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Wikibooks:Reading room/Archives/2006/July

Help with setting up a "wikimanual"
I've just started a book called A Wikimanual of Gardening, and would like some help getting it working properly. The book is inspired by the recurring discussions over at WP about getting "how-to" information out of articles dealing with plant, insect, soil, etc.

 * It would be wise to retitle to "A Wiki Textbook of Gardening". "Manuals" are frequently rapidly deleted or voted for deletion (VfD) and then deleted.  Local policy is TEXTBOOKS ONLY. user:lazyquasar

What I'm hoping to do is enable them to create chapters in an organized wikibook, rather than "dumping" information through the transwiki process. I've opened a chapter on that (A_Wikimanual_of_Gardening/How_to_Transwiki_Information_to_this_Book), perhaps I could get a few pointers on that part of things from you folks?

Also, I'm moving a couple other books (ones I started) to this one as chapters. Still figuring that part out. Johnny 17:01, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

 * We already have a Gardening textbook. Can you not merge your work into here? Unless you're trying to appeal to a different audience than the Gardening book, we really shouldn't have two books on the same subject, Jguk 07:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Forgive me for asking I am simply hanging out waiting for Wikiversity. Can you cite a policy such as NO DUPE or is this a personal interpretation of the best way to proceed locally at the moment.  You are contending that there should only be one textbook on Gardening at Wikibooks? user:lazyquasar

 * From what I understand from the Talk:Gardening page, that book has serious issues and was slated either for deletion or to be moved to wikisource. Seems better to start anew than work on a book with that hanging over it. Johnny 13:43, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Oh, by all means - though do bear it in mind as a potential source of info for a revised/new book. Once you have culled everything of value, feel free to mark up pages for deletion with, Jguk 17:15, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

The Gardening book really doesn't seem to have much in it when I look at the individual chapters, it's more of a commentary than a guide, and much is quite out of date. I'll keep looking though. Is deletion compulsory? Some readers might find it interesting. (BTW: Why would having "manual" in the title attract an RfD? It's a how-to book, which is just a long-winded way to say "manual".) Johnny 11:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

New Logo Discussion
There is a logo discussion for Wikibooks going on at Meta. See Wikibooks/logo. Dbmag9 19:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm curious about a couple of things regarding this:
 * Who is starting this movement to replace the logo? i.e. what is the motivation behind why this needs to change?
 * What is wrong with the existing logo?
 * If this was the outgrowth of a discussion here on the Staff Lounge or the mailing list (perhaps even an IRC chat), I might be more inclined to support a move like this. At this time we have a project logo that has been used for a couple of years, so IMHO changing the logo should be for something much cleaner and simpler, or add a huge value to the project.  It is not that I have anything against this, just that it seems to have come from people external to typical Wikibooks contributors that are pushing for this change.  --Rob Horning 17:29, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * You make a good point that I didn't even consider. The wikibooks logo might not be perfect, but does it really need to change? Who want's it changed and why? What benefit will a new logo bring us, that this logo doesnt? --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 18:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Apparently (after some digging around), some of the motivation was by a Russian Wikibooks editor who didn't like what he was seeing, especially when he was trying to translate the Wikibooks "slogan" (Think free. Learn free.) into Russian.  I've said on many occasions that Wikibooks was more than en.wikibooks, and this apparently is one of those situations.  The idea of changing this slogan I would support much more than changing the logo, and that is something that has come up here on the Staff Lounge in the recent past.  Any ideas for a better slogan? --Rob Horning 12:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

 * "OMG Free Books!". --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 12:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Most of the current logo discussions (there are 5) are stimulated in some way by User:Nightstallion. I'm not sure of the exact circumstances about this one. Answers to both questions at the meta page. Dbmag9 19:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

collaboration and book of the month
Someone please write some nice descriptions for these books. I have made basic templates, but I am a failure at exciting writing. Kellen T 01:25, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Also, we should close voting earlier and make the templates before the actual day they change. That way we won't get redlinks like we had this evening. Kellen T 01:33, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I tried to add a bit to the Muggles' Guide section. I wish there were more Commons HP images. -Matt 13:20, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Computer Help Wiki
I work for a charity called U Can Do IT (see www.ucandoit.org.uk) which provides computer tuition for disabled people in the UK. I am currently trying to start up a wiki at wiki.ucandoit.org.uk which will fulfill various functions for the charity. Perhaps the most important of these is the provision of a set of Instructions and Course Notes for U Can Do IT students to use while they are taking the course.

I have publicised the wiki amongst other U Can Do IT tutors, but I don't think many of them are particularly experienced in editing wikis. Would any experienced wikipedians be able to provide any help in building the UCanWIKI? Accounts are by invitation only, but there's a link on the main page of the wiki from which you can email me an account request. Even if you don't want to contribute, any general advice (e.g., already-extant sources of computer instructions, general design tips etc etc) would be great.

Thank you! --Jim0203 10:53, 1 July 2006 (UTC) wiki.ucandoit.org.uk

Help with Orthopaedic Surgery
I have been working for some time on Orthopaedic Surgery. Recently I created two navigation templates. One is for the page navigation and the other is for chapter navigation. The idea of having the Chapter navigation was to allow the user to access another chapter in the module easily, which they can do right now. But the problem is the user is not aware of the chapter he is in unless its the first page of the chapter as the link in the template leads to that page. One way to do that would be to probably categorise it into the concerned chapters. However, it would make sense to do it through the navigation template. If anyone has ideas about how to sort this out, I would be more than grateful if you let me to it. Any other ideas are also welcome. Thanks in advance! BDB 04:32, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, you could add a parameter to OrthoMainTOC, that would be the name of the chapter that the individual page belongs to. Then, you could add a series of conditional expressions to the navigation template to selectively apply formatting (such as bolding, or underlining, or whatever) to the chapter. This would require some effort, however, so it might be a better idea to simply take an extra parameter, that would be a backlink to the chapter, and then display a "Current Chapter: " statement at the bottom of the TOC. if the parameter isn't provided, you don't print out anything. I'll work out a quick example for you, and see if you like it. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 21:36, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, I made a quick version that can be found at OrthoMainTOC/test/. This one takes, as an optional parameter, the name of the current chapter, and displays a note at the bottom of the template, as to which chapter the reader is currently in. The formatting is simple and lousy, but you should get the general idea. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 21:43, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Seems like a splendid idea! Why not put it into action? We can always modify it if necessary.BDB 17:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I made attempts but failed to make any progress. Some help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.BDB 18:12, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Whew!! That was a lot of experiementing. I finally got it right ...hope it works. But surely this is not the final tweak. Any suggestions are still welcome. BDB 17:07, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * That looks pretty good! I'm glad you got it to work correctly. Let me know if you need any more help with it. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 18:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Help me turn on DynamicPageLists for wikibooks
Hi everybody; We at the cookbook would like to turn on DynamicPageList for the Cookbook so we can create context-sensitive lists from our categories. User:Brion VIBBER has indicated that it would be okay on the bug; but he wants a "Yes, turn this on" from other wikibookians. So please, say "YES" here. Kellen T 20:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * You mean, you want to display newest pages in each category? --Derbeth talk 21:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I have to admit that I have no idea what DynamicPageLists are, what they do, why they currently aren't turned on, or why it would be an issue. A little more information, and perhaps I will agree. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 21:29, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah, sorry for the lack of extra explanation. Here's a fuller description: DPLs would allow us to create transcluded lists of modules by category. The important part is that we can use multiple category filters; so you can generate a list which has pages which are in BOTH category A and category B. This, for instance, would be useful in automatically creating a listing of recipes for an ingredient, diet, etc ("Breakfast recipes containing apples" "Desserts containing apples" "Vegan Desserts" "Chicken Stews", etc, etc, etc). For the cookbook, this should signal the end of hand-maintained lists of recipes -- instead we can maintain the categories only but still have nicely formatted views for each page.

They are not currently turned on because DPLs are a mediawiki extension, so they a developer to turn them on explicitly. There shouldn't be any real issue with having them on, but Brion wanted some show of consensus from wikibookians. Kellen T 01:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Does DPL not have some performance costs? --Derbeth talk 09:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

 * They are apparently not super efficient, so they won't be turned on for wikipedia for now, but Brion said there shouldn't be any problem with them on wikibooks and that we can turn them off if they become a problem anyhow. Kellen T 10:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

BTW, something to keep in mind here is that Wikinews uses this feature as well for the "local bureau" pages that are able to pull up the list of say sports stories that happened in New York. Look at wikinews:Portal:New York for a Wikimedia project example of how this is used. I'm not sure what would happen to these pages or indeed much of the Wikinews infrastructure if this were turned off. --Rob Horning 12:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Well if that's the case, then we should turn them on, but immediately employ them to a large degree so that they can't be turned off again. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 12:27, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Drat! You're on to my plan! Kellen T 18:05, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, turn on DPLs for wikibooks

 * Kellen T 20:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)...
 * You got my vote. Why not?  --Rob Horning 03:02, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Based on the above discussion, and the fact that I don't really understand the issue. I'll just cast my vote here. If they do have a performance penalty, and we do need to turn them off in the future however, it will be bad if we have built too much infrastructure around them. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 23:52, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes. pfctdayelise 01:03, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Gentgeen 19:07, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Huh?

 * Still not sure what all this means, though the WP article on "transclusion" was a mildly interesting read. Johnny 10:17, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It means we can use this piece of software to generate lists from categories that show up on normal pages ('transclusion' is maybe not quite correct). In the cookbook, this means that we don't end up with two pages that a user must visit for an ingredient, e.g. the page on Lemon, Cookbook:Lemon and the category containing lemon recipes Category:Lemon recipes. Instead we can use DPLs to put the recipe listing right on Cookbook:Lemon. Kellen T 10:44, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Slightly more wiki-savy users could also use the feature to do recipe sorts. A user could use DPL on one of their user subpages to find, for example, all very easy through medium dificulty beverage recipes that use Oranges and Chocolate, but no milk, or any other combination of types, ingredients, and ratings. The editors could use such a list to prepare print-version Cookbook Pamphlets, with perhaps 100 recipes and enough technique and ingredient pages for the recipes involved. I think it would be a very useful feature. Gentgeen 19:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, this might seem like a silly question, but couldn't you just put the content of "Cookbook:Lemon" on the "Category:lemon recipes" page? (I don't have any objection to the DPLs, but wonder if that might just be easier). SB_Johnny 11:36, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, you can do that in certain cases. Consider Category:Dessert recipes, instead of lemon ones. A listing of dessert recipes would benefit from greater organization (see Cookbook:Dessert), which just isn't possible with flat categories. We can categorize the recipes all we want, but the truth is that the categories are not a particularly accessible or obvious way for our users to view recipes. Kellen T 12:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Template:PokemonBugWater
I'm still waiting for this template. Please copy it over to http://www.wikiknowledge.net/wiki/index.php?title=Template:PokemonBugWater&action=edit. Thanks, Gerard Foley 11:48, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks to whoever copied it over. I finished cleaning up all the Pokémon pages, so that was the last missing template. I should now have no reason to ever return here so bye all! Gerard Foley 14:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikibooks is reaching three years
On 10th July 2003 main page of Wikibooks has been established and the new Wikimedia project started. I think that third birthday of Wikibooks is a good opportunity to promote this website. Perhaps we should write a longer news at Wikinews or even create some kind of 'press release' summarizing what have we achieved during these three years, as well as showing things that still are need to be done? --Derbeth talk 12:21, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm all for it. I think we could probably get a little bit of press over at slashdot as well, along with some other websites (possibly). 3 years is a long time, and it's amazing to me that i've only been here for 1 year or so. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 12:25, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

 * July 10th. This is an excellent idea Derbeth. Do you want to make up a draft? Kellen T 12:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

To accomplish this task, I started this page, which may be something to look into and see if we can expand it somewhat, and perhaps turn it into a formal press release:

State of the Project/2006

BTW, it would be nice to get information from other Wikibooks projects in other languages besides English and Polish (thanks Derbeth for the Polish information). --Rob Horning 13:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I wrote to the German edition asking them to help preparing the state of the project report. Unfortunately, I am not able to help any more since I am going to two-week mountain trip and will be completely offline then. --Derbeth talk 20:22, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I added some statistics about the german wikibooks project onto the page-link above. Please leave a message on de:Wikibooks:Projekt, if you need some more oder even additional information about our project. -- ThePacker 23:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Decimal Classification
Your Card Catalog Office is quite cool and the German Wikibooks are growing. So soon or later we will have to use decimal classification too. But at current state our man-power ist too small, to make large steps forward. I would like to ask whether there was a vote or even the idea discussed, to make a Free-Decimal-Classification-Index e.g. on meta. I ask this because the Dewey index is not free and we don't have the knowledge to apply the smaller numbers after the first three (from the main category). Thanks for your attention. -- ThePacker 23:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I would note that the Library of Congress classification is free (as in speech and beer) to use and is a decimal classification system. The Dewey Decimal Classification system is free.... as long as you are using the classification catalog from before 1920.  That is the largest problem with the DCC and free projects like Wikibooks and Wikisource, where many categories have been created that are much more modern in origin, even though the basic 100's level classification have been unchanged.
 * In terms of trying to come up with a more "modern" classification system, that is an interesting point. It would be interesting to come up with a categorization system that would allow you to look up a book in multiple langauages that would show related books of the same topic.  Right now the best developed original system that comes close is the current bookshelf system in use here on en.wikibooks, and that basic philosophy has been carried over into other language Wikibooks projects as well.  This is something that does need some more attention and establishing a "classification" system is not a trivial task.  --Rob Horning 12:34, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The german wikibook also has bookshelves, they even have their own namespace. I know that a new decimal classification systems is a huge task, because it depends on knowledge. But a consistent decimal classification of articles and books would even improve the basic search mechanisms in a wiki. Imagine what could be, if you choose the topic in the search-mask, rather than searching for special words in a huge database. Anyway, i wanted to know whether this idea could interest some people, to start such a project. maybe it will be discussed in the next month on your wikibooks, we discuss this topic also. -- ThePacker 15:36, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I would be interested in helping out with the creation of a new classification scheme. It certainly won't be easy, but if we can come up with a good one, and implement it here on wikibooks, it would be a benefit to the community as a whole. Of course, implementing it would involve the creation and adoption of a new policy, and we are historically slow at doing that kind of stuff here on en.wikibooks. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 14:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to make such a project on meta. But at first: we will have to invest some amount of time into such a system, i mean before any voting to adopt it into an enforced policy. Everybody must be sure about it. It could be, that our efforts will not be accepted at all. Everyone must be sure about this too. The Classification System must come first. -- ThePacker 18:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Don't go to fast with that. A free classification would be a big think, exspecialy if it should be ready for international usages. (maybe the old DDC isn't the best base for that) A free classification can be used in many projects in the net and would be it own big project, so don't do it fast and ugly ;-) --PatrickD 13:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday Wikibooks!
Today's the big day... should this be announced on the maiin page of WP (maybe under "on this day...")? SB_Johnny 11:41, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I added a note on our Main Page, but someone else should write some better text. Kellen T 14:05, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I added notes at both wikipedia and wikinews, but if someone wrote an actual press release, it'd be more likely to get used. Kellen T 14:42, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

 * If i knew how to write a press release, and if i would even know where to send it, I would offer to help. Beyond that, you have my best wishes! --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 15:46, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Candidates for Speedy Deletion
Could someone clean out candidates for speedy deletion? Some pages have been there for 19 days. Thanks in advance. --Think Fast 14:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I'll get a few of them now. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 23:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I deleted a bunch. I didn't delete the ones that I could find reason not to, and there are some at the end of the list that I would have deleted, but I got tired of deleting. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 23:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

 * only 19 days. Wow!  Somebody has been being a diligent admin here!  Seriously, don't get a stress attack over this.  It takes somebody with a lot of time to keep up with the speedy deletes and often it is a thankless and boring job as well.  I also like to let speedy delete markups ferment for some time just to let contributors know that there are objections to the content and potentially respond if they think it should remain, such as turning it into a VfD discussion instead.  This isn't to say that a speedy delete should be up for six months without being culled, but don't expect the same speed of service that you might expect on Wikipedia.  This isn't Wikipedia and I hope that the deletionist culture there never gets to this project.  In other words, relax and trust that it will eventually be dealt with.  --Rob Horning 12:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

AIM Link
I want to try and make an AIM link, for instant messenger. Hyperlinks need to have the form of: "aim://goim?username=", or something (I forget the exact syntax, but it's similar to this). Anyway, mediawiki absolutely refuses to let me create a link like this. Any idea how to make it happen, or if it is even possible? --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 03:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I couldn't figure it out. Soz. Kellen T 19:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I tried <nowiki> tags, I tried every different variation of hyperlink format that mediawiki offers (at least that I know about), and nothing will just come out working. It's just interesting to me, because I know that "irc://" style links are allowed. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 19:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I don't know much about mediawiki, but I suspect there's a whitelist for link types somewhere. I'm not quite sure of what security implications AIM links might have (can't think of any except perhaps sending messages to the wrong people), but perhaps we can turn them on. Kellen T 22:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Can't you just use the pure HTML? test ArrowHate 20:01, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Notice how that doesn't work =) Kellen T 20:28, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I tried the pure link, and I tried embedding it in <nowiki> tags. I tried single brackets, and even double brackets. I'm wondering if there is some kind of CSS class i can utilize, but if there is, i dont know about it. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 21:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Transwiking Video game books
When Jimbo ordered the removal of all video game books, people started to move them to StrategyWiki, because it was a gaming wiki and used the same license. However now it looks like the license is being changed to a custom version, so what will happen to the game books that have yet to be moved? Will a new wiki have to be found for them or something? Gerard Foley 14:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I think... thats a good question to ask over at SW. ArrowHate 19:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Protected project
Hi, I used to work on a project called Players_guide_for_Star_Sonata before it was moves to Strategy Wiki. Now all that remains is a link SW. However, the strat-wiki project has been depreciated and replaced with a dedicated wiki. I was wondering if I could get an admin to add a link to the project page, since it's protected. The address to the new wiki is http://www.lyceumarchives.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page and it's proper title is "The Lyceum Archives".

Thanks, ArrowHate 19:51, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I'll simply put a link to both. Hows that? --Dragontamer 15:32, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Yeah, that would be great. 63.80.111.2 17:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Category:Candidates for speedy deletion
Ehm... very full there. It could be useful to delete some of the listed pages and images. Most of the images are in the list since nearly a m onth or so. Thanks. -- 85.176.120.162 14:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Please see Staff_lounge. Wikibooks is slower than wikipedia as we have fewer admins and less public attention overall. These will eventually be cleaned up. Kellen T 18:05, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Sure, but one month is a bit long anyway (It would be too long in my eyes with one admin as well). -- John N. 19:56, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It is certainly not, and please, stop posting these type of messages here on the Staff Lounge. The next one I see here I will simply remove from the Staff Lounge altogether.  This is expecting service and behavior of paid staff when we are all a group of volunteers, and I've railed against that in the past too.  It will be dealt with, and leave it at that.  It is not like admins aren't aware of this category and have never removed content from here in the past.  --Rob Horning 13:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but it looked like that. I only wanted those imaged deleted, becouse they were marked for speedy deletion a long time and on .de we've found out, that the author wanted them to be deleted and that he hadn't licenced them right. -- John N. 13:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

New Algebra text in simple language
A new user, User:HSTutorials, who runs HSTutorials.net, has started an Algebra in simple english text that looks rather ambitious. I hope other maths contributors can help it conform to style standards and link out to other related texts here. Sj 14:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Out of curiosity, why was this not added to the Simple English Wikibooks instead? I know that project doesn't get too much support, but this seems like a no-brainer about the fact that it should be transwikied to that project instead, if you want to consider Simple English to be something of a seperate language.  It would also get quite a bit more support simply by being associated with other Simple English contributors.  I'm not going to rehash all of the arguments for if a seperate set of Wikimedia sister projects should be set up as a whole other language just for the "simple" versions of English, but this does looks like a good addition to that project.  And nearly double Simple English Wikibooks just off of a transwiki like this.  --Rob Horning 17:43, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I didn't even know there was a "simple english" project. I know this isn't the right venue to discuss the merits of that project, but it seems to me a needless diversion of resources away from this project. However, that being said, I doubt that this new book will be written in a manner that distinguishes itself enough from other texts on the subject, and it will probably just be merged eventually. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 18:32, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Enhancement request for separating page title rendering from subpage syntax
Some time ago we discuss this issue (see Wikibooks talk:Naming policy/Archive 2). In Spanish Wikibooks we have recently talk about it and have decided to open an enhancement request in MediaZilla, see bug 6723. Please, contribute your thoughts. ManuelGR 20:32, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Seems like you should just ask for some html wrappers around those elements to be added and some CSS classes applied. Then you could adjust the local stylesheet. This would be easier than having conditionals everywhere. Kellen T 23:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

 * We have prepared some mockups in es:Usuario:Ciencia Al Poder/Pruebas and most of them are implementable using CSS classes. ManuelGR 11:33, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

"Important" Books
Hi all,

I was doing some reading on Wikipedia the other day, and came across their proposal for a Wikipedia 1.0 CD, which would have good quality articles about "core topics." I was just curious, what do you all think the "core books" of Wikibooks would be? Personally, I would think the most "important" books would be ones that college freshmen and sophomores would use. I'd like to make a list of the "core books" of the Wikibooks project, and see how good the books we have on those topics are- User:Paul_Lynch/Core Topics DettoAltrimenti 07:33, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Well we have lots of books which might be considered core subjects, but unfortunately, few of them are really all that complete or up to snuff. Kellen T 09:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

 * "core subjects" and "good quality" are not the same. A small but determined community can produce a high quality book while larger comunity might not bothered because the subject has allready been covered elsewhere. In this we are different from Wikipedia. So if we are to colled "core books" I would go by the quality book in existance and not on how main stream the subject is. --Krischik T 09:34, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

 * It is a good point. I think that in many developed countries, the books aimed at undergraduates would make the biggest financial impact. After all, I can't think of anybody who is paying more for texts then undergraduate students. However, in the developing world, it is much harder to get ahold of any books, especially books to teach children basic subjects. Fortunately, I think a wikibooks CD would have enough space to include many different books on many different subjects. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 13:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Is this opening a can of worms or what? As far as core subjects of Wikibooks, I would have to point to the books of the month as the real place to look. Now if you are trying to come up with a full university-level curriculum based on Wikibooks content, it will be years or even decades before that is going to happen on Wikibooks.

I don't think you can find even one Wikibook near completion that is based off of any specific educational standard of any kind, although there are a few that certainly are trying to get there. The problem here is what standard should be we using? You can look at Help:Textbook Standards for some standards that have been gathered together in once spot to at least begin the search. Most of these standards are for traditional elementary and secondary educational instruction, but that is a place to start. I do wish these standards were used more in Wikibooks.

One of the best "core curriculum" series of books on Wikibooks at the moment is the International Baccalaureate series that covers many of the core courses mentioned above. While the depth of these books isn't really up to book of the month standards, the breadth of this project certainly is incredibly ambitious and worthy of continued support by Wikibooks users. I hope this is more toward what you were looking for in terms of quality core books that deserve note. --Rob Horning 14:29, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

wikibook "blender: noob to pro"
link in 'blender 3D' has failed to launch for a couple days on my computer.

thnx zhnkiu

 * I don't know what to tell you, the link works fine for me. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 22:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

okay, it works now. tastes like spyware. i reformated my hd... zhnkiu [delete this whenever]

ICT4D books
Dear Wikibooks Staff:

APDIP, the Asia Pacific Development Information Programme (under the UNDP), is willing to donate to the Wikibooks programme some of its many ebooks and primers that it brought out, on the theme of ICT4D (information and communication technologies for development). Would Wikibooks be willing to create a special category to give this topic its deserved prominence? --Fredericknoronha 19:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC) (Frederick Noronha, co-founder BytesForAll)

 * That certainly sounds like a generous offer. We can easily set up a new category for this type of information. Also, there are bookshelves such as the Computer science bookshelf, and the Engineering bookshelf, that would make good homes to books on this subject. It might take some work to get all the material formatted for wikimedia, but free ebooks is something that we shouldnt scoff at. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 21:44, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I would like to note that by moving the content to Wikibooks, you are indicating that you want to allow others to be able to add to, modify (perhaps substantially), and update the contents of these books, all without any formal approval process for these changes other than what is normally done on a Wiki. If instead you simply want to preserve this content as e-books that would be available to people to read, but you would like to have essentially complete books available to be freely copied, I would suggest our sister project, Wikisource.

I do agree that this is a very generous offer, and if the quality of the content is high, they would deserve some front page attention as well, including a seperate bookshelf and perhaps on things like the Book of the Month or "Hot Picks" sections.

Please make sure that you understand the terms and conditions of the Gnu Free Document License (GFDL) when you donate this content. Generally this isn't a big deal for small contributions of text, but for something major like this I just want to make sure that everybody involved understands just what a copyleft license is about and its implications. That doesn't mean you can't later use the original content under another copyright license (you are the original copyright owner), but that everything that is added to Wikibooks must be available under that distribution license.

I'm certain if there was some significant quality to this content, there would also be some volunteers to perform formatting tasks and other items to make the content "look nice" and conform to typical Wikibooks styles, as well as give it a good look through for any obvious mistakes. --Rob Horning 06:34, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

The Assayer
Should Wikibooks carry a link to the Assayer on its main page? Certainly we should try to add as many of the completed Wikibooks to the Assayer's list. RobinH 15:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Probably not. We don't link to gutenberg or other such projects, so I'm not sure why assayer should get any special preference. Kellen T 16:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I would agree that Wikibooks should be linked into the Assayer in terms of book reviews and showing off some of the best of what we got here. I don't think Mr. Crowell would mind that at all.

As far as having a link from Wikibooks to the Assayer, I would have to agree partially with Kellen that it should be part of a list of "suggested" free e-book links. The nice thing about the Assayer is that it encourages reviews of copyleft or public domain books, and I think any link from the front page (even if on a seperate page of links to free e-books) should meet a similar standard. Links to Microsoft publications, for example, would not be encouraged.

We also don't want to clutter up the front page with a bunch of useless stuff, and should make changes there as careful as possible. --Rob Horning 18:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikimania Awards
The Wikimania Awards honors the best writing and media on the Wikimedia projects from the past year. One category is specifically for textbook material. Please nominate great modules and texts that have been written, or almost entirely rewritten, since last August. Please also let the authors know their work has been nominated.

Cheers, +sj + 23:04, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Help merging transwikied pages
These are all the pages still in Special:Prefixindex/transwiki. Not all of these have been added to Category:Modules from transwiki.

Could those managing a book spend a few minutes to merge any relevant pages into their books. I want to clear up our backlog as quickly as possible. --hagindaz 03:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm going to go through, and pick out the articles that i can find a quick home for. I'll be back later and try to work on whatever is left. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 13:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Navigation links
I noticed today that the navigation links on the left-hand side have changed. I don't particularly miss the link to wikiversity, but i know some people did use the links to wikijunior. I personally found the link to the staff lounge to be particularly useful. Why did they remove these links, and how can we change them back? --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 17:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I thought this was controlled by MediaWiki:Sidebar... but it appears to still have the wikijunior, etc, links so perhaps the mediawiki version was updated and this is now ignored? The new version of this is bad, too, because it includes Current events which is just a redirect to Community Portal Kellen T 20:29, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

 * This is a long standing problem with the current version of MediaWiki, and is a bug right now. Generally it will get "fixed" here in a day or so, so don't panic yet.  For some reason the sidebar doesn't always work the way it should, especially when for some reason the servers are being worked on or are particularly slow.  It would be nice to track this bug down, however.  --Rob Horning 22:23, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * A workaround for this is quite simple: An administrator needs to edit MediaWiki:Sidebar, klick on preview, and then on save. No changes will be needed and not even saved, but: The cache will be updated with the correct version. -- ThePacker 00:03, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Now that is one bug for the recordbook. I'll have to add that to the MediaWiki Administrator's Handbook.  --Rob Horning 02:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Weird. So ... a new installation of mediawiki has a precached version of the page? Does this work if you just use the purge option on the page's URL? Kellen T 03:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

 * A Purge doesn't work. I tried it more than one times. -- ThePacker 08:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

and
These templates are now deprecated and are replaced by ParserFunctions. Could an admin please unprotect them and put up a notice on each? I've already removed them from all pages on wikibooks. Kellen T 14:30, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * On the unlikely chance that the parserfunctions are removed or discontinued, I think we should keep these around, unaltered. No sense unprotecting them either, since most users wont even know what these templates do, much less how to edit them in a way that is consistant with their purpose. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 14:54, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Sorry, meant "unprotect so as to put up a notice not to use the template". Kellen T 15:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Here are the affected pages, in case I screwed up any:

Kellen T 15:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Fair enough, I'll unprotect them now, and we can put up a note that they are deprecated. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 15:28, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Done. Kellen T 09:14, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

General voting rules/Proposal
I don't remember if i mentioned this before or not. I have created a proposed revision of the general voting rules policy: General voting rules/Proposal. I created this revision with the intent on removing hard percentages from the voting requirements, and putting an emphasis on community and concensus.

Also, whether this revision is acceptable or not, I would like the community to come together, and finalize at least some general version of the general voting rules policy. It is my firm belief that if we can get a voting policy enforced, we can move to decision on other outstanding proposed policies relatively quickly. This policy will help to form a policy foundation that wikibooks can stand on, and can move forward to the future with. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 15:15, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, let's get the format for voting accepted and then tackle the problem of consensus, majority votes etc. as a separate issue. RobinH 09:09, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I've made changes to this policy as suggested by the few people who have actually come to read it, so far. I think (hope) that this proposed version is broad enough that we can move to a vote on it. I am going to start a vote on it soon, and I will send out a few messages and try to get some more opinions on it first. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 18:43, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

This appears to be a pagemove vandal/bot of some sort, moving pages to some foreign characters. Can anyone block it?? --Wur-dene 19:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I just took care of it, thanks for the head's up. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 22:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Reorganization Advice Sought
I've been working on a book (Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book) since October, and I have now come across a bit of an organizational problem that I need advice in addressing.

First a bit of background. This book is an instructor's guide for teaching Pathfinder honors. Pathfinders is an international youth club similar to Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, and the "honors" are the equivalent of merit badges.

One of my contributors has been adding entries based on the way the honors are defined in Australia - each area of the world is given the latitude to adopt its own version of the honors, and in some cases they can change substantially. I have been using the North American version. It is important that the honors be taught as adopted by the local division, and I estimate that perhaps 60% of the honors differ between these two areas (and there are other areas to consider as well that may have their own version).

I don't want to say - "use the North American version," but I need to make it the distinction clear so that the users of the book don't accidently grab the wrong version.

As it is now, the book has three levels of hierarchy:
 * Top Level
 * Honor Categories
 * Individual Honors

The second level has ten sections, and the third level has something like 350 chapters. Work has been done on about 25% of these, so anything I do to re-org is going to be painful.

Should I fork the book, making locality-specific versions? Should I add a fourth level to the existing hierarchy (between the first and second levels I would think), or should I do something else? Oh - one other thing: not all of the honors are different. Many of them are exactly the same from one locality to the next. So if I add a fourth level, I may end up sharing chapters rather than duplicating them.

Moving it to a different language almost does what I want, but they speak English in Australia so that's not gonna fly. I really need some ideas here!

Jim Thomas 03:15, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I think the way in which pages are marked right now, with the little maps works pretty well for distinguishing the region for specific honors. If you have the same honor in different regiions that differ substantially, just give it a different name like "Sewing (South Pacific Division)." Also, you might consider organizing the honors with categories for each division. That way, you can encode the fact that the honors apply to more than one division, and you can produce a complete listing of available honors by division. Or, you could fork the books and have "Adventist Youth Honors (South Pacific)" but that seems like it'll just make more work for people if a good number of the honors are exactly the same. Kellen T 09:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I wouldnt even do that. I would attempt to separate each page, into different localities. Use headings and templates to indicate specific points or requirements that are specific to a single locality, and don't mark the things that are pretty universal. This way, you dont need to reorg the book at all, and the different material can become very clear. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 12:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism templates
There has been some discussion about deleting some of the vandalism user templates, and I would like to turn it into an official discussion. I would like to permanently delete the following templates:

 * Template:WoW
 * Template:MPS
 * Template:sockpuppet
 * Category:Suspected Wikibooks sockpuppets of Willy on Wheels
 * Category:Suspected Wikibooks sockpuppets
 * Category:Suspected Wikibooks sockpuppets of Mr.Pelican Shit
 * Category:Suspected sockpuppets

If a user is found to be a bad-faith sockpuppet or a sockpuppet of a known vandal, that username should be blocked forever. We do not, however, need to erect a monument to every single sockpuppet, with a fancy template. sockpuppet accounts, IMO should be blocked, and forgotten forever. Also, I would like to delete the several (verbose) categories that accompany these templates, as being nothing but listings of users who have already been identified as vandals, and blocked forever. No sense listing information that doesnt matter.

I didn't want to make this a VfD discussion, because it is more a matter of policy (the policy of identifying and glorifying sockpuppets).--Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 12:28, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree that those should be deleted. This isn't Wikipedia. The user who created these templates may very well just have the "all wikis are like Wikipedia" mentality thinking that all wikis work similarly in the project and is moving those templates, but we don't need them. Upon looking at his contributions, many of his edits seem questionable to me. All those Wikipedia-like template copies should be wiped in my opinion. -Matt 12:42, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The reason for having templates like this is to watch and monitor problematic users. From my opinion, templates like this add to the notoriety of this particular individual who deserves none.  The templates, categories, and any content in these categories need to be removed.  In fact, I have no problem even deleting any user pages for known vandals.  It is better to treat these users as if they never existed in the first place for some of the acts they have done.  Let's not give another excuse for people to become vandals.  --Rob Horning 15:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree 100%. Delete them. --Dragontamer 23:42, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, i'm going to just go ahead and delete them now. If we have need of them in the future (which I doubt), we can always undelete them. Perhaps we could write it into policy somewhere that userpages of known vandals can simply be deleted? but, that's a question for another day. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 13:56, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Collaboration and Book of the Month for August
August 1st is coming up. It would be good to actually have the templates for these ready to go before the front page tips them over into redlinks. The votes are:
 * Book of the month/August 2006 voting
 * Collaboration of the Month/August 2006 voting

And the templates which need to be made are:
 * Book of the month/August 2006
 * Collaboration of the Month/August 2006

Also, I think the pages state the voting ends at midnight the first day of the month. This is kind of stupid since we could use some time to actually create the templates. Ending it a week before would make more sense.

Kellen T 15:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Okay, I made these. For book of the month, it's the Movie Making Manual. For collaboration, it's Reverse Engineering. Once again, the text I've written in these templates is bad. The image for RE is a breakdown of CIDR blocks, which doesn't really make any sense for RE, but it does at least show translating between binary and something meaningful. I was unsuccessful at finding anything appropriate, so that's my straw-grasping. Someone should find a better image. Whiteknight, I'm looking at you. Kellen T 13:13, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Despite what I said on your user page, I actually did go in and change the picture and the text. I wouldn't say that either of them were "bad", but the new picture is slightly more relevant (i hope). I'll look at the Moving Making Manual, and see if I can do anything to that (although I dont know much about making movies). --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 13:50, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Transwiki redirect deletion
So with transwikis, do we need to keep the old redirects around or can we delete interim redirect pages, like Cookbook:Rice and beef soup? Kellen T 00:12, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I've been deleting them, as I merged them, so i'm going to say that is the correct way to do it. I dont think we need to keep around any redirects, because no books should link to a transwiki: page in the first place. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 13:51, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Some Wikibooks on our educational DVD
Hello, I would like to inform you, that some of your Wikibooks are going to be published and distributed for free on our Xplora Knoppix 1.2 DVD. To read more about the project read here:

http://www.xplora.org/ww/en/pub/xplora/library/software/xplora___dvd_knoppix__make_sci.htm

If you send me an email address, I can forward you the preview of the DVD on our webserver.

Thanks Karl Sarnow

 * Sounds like an excellent project, if you ask me. I assume the wikibooks that you are using will all be in pdf format? All I would ask in return is some kind of mention of wikibooks, in an attempt to increase interest in our project, through participation in yours. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 13:55, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Category sort enhancement request
I've made an enhancement request on the mediawiki bugtracker requesting that categories be able to set the default sort key. This would mean that instead of doing on every single page in every single category we would just go to each category and do __SORTBYPAGENAME__ (or something similiar). This would be a huge boon for the cookbook as we have many, many categories and this would mean many, many places where we don't have to sort things by hand. Please go vote for this bug. Kellen T 17:16, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Deletion policy
There has been a suggested ammendment to the deletion policy, HERE, that would include "redirects that aren't linked to" and "redirects that follow a deprecated naming scheme" under candidates for speedy deletion. At the moment, the only redirects that specifically qualify for speedy deletion are those for which it is "unlikely that anyone will inadventently search for a page under that name". I think that the policy here should be expanded to give admins more ability to clean out useless garbage like this. I would, however, like to ask for other opinions on the matter. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 18:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Requesting bot flag
My owner has been scouring the wiki, trying to find where he should ask that I be flagged as a bot. Can anyone point him in the right direction? --SwiftBot 22:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

 * It used to be you could request a bot flag at Requests for Adminship, but now it is stated that bots require "community concensus" before the botflag can be granted. I would suggest that you use your bot a few times to prove that it is useful and benign. you can try to make a request at WB:RFA (down at the very bottom), but no guaruntees. Also, if you release your source code so people can see what it is made of, what it does, and that it means no harm, we will feel better about it. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 22:19, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Great, thanks! --Swift 22:46, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


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User:Stw

Stephan Walter, ♂, Wikipedian from Switzerland. I'm mostly active on the german Wikipedia, where I am an admin. On Wikibooks I just read and fix typos ;-)

My home on the net: http://stephan.walter.name/

Currently reading:
 * Haskell

To read:
 * Atlas Shrugged

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

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Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Vocational/Barbering

2. Name three essentials in the care of hair.
1. Washing 2. Brushing


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Talk:Forenensic Pharmacology

This wikibook is under construction. This will be presented as a graduate level paper for a course of Forensic Pharmacology.

title: Talk:Forenensic Pharmacology


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Talk:Haskell/More on datatypes

treeMap
For learning purposes, why I have removed the comment behind the type signature.

The type of treeMap is (a -> b) -> Tree a -> Tree b. We call treeMap (+1). The types of (+) and 1 are:

(+) :: Num a => a -> a -> a 1 :: Num a => a --Aye, polymorph!

This turns (+1) into a function of type Num a => a -> a

So treeMap is of type <tt>Num a => Tree a -> Tree a</tt>

This means Haskell doesn't get to be confused between <tt>Int</tt> and <tt>Integer</tt>, because both will do.

--Tchakkazulu 16:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Tree - elements only in leaves
I modified the discussion of Trees in two ways. First, letting the Branch constructor take a value of type a as well as left and right subtrees just complicated the discussion without adding any substance, so I simplified it: the Branch constructor now just takes a left and right subtree. Secondly, treeFold as defined was not a true analog of foldr, as explained in the revised text.

Here is an example that shows one of the problems with the way treeFold was defined. Note that <tt>foldr []</tt> is the identity function on lists; with my new definition of treeFold, <tt>treeFold Branch id</tt> is the identity function on Trees; but with the old definition of treeFold, there is no choice of the arguments <tt>f</tt> and <tt>z</tt> that will give you the identity function.

--Kevin S. Van Horn (kevin@ksvanhorn.com), 1 July 2007

Great, I came here to see a discussion about why the definition of Branch differed from the one in YAHT. Are you sure this gives the same structure for the BinaryTree? Seems to me like only Leaves have elements rather than one at every branch.

--thattommyhall

Problematic example in General Map
As of now, the general map example for the Weird type eventually reaches this point:

weirdMap :: (a -> c) -> (b -> d) -> Weird a b -> Weird c d weirdMap fa fb = weirdMap' where weirdMap' (First x)         = First (fa x)     weirdMap' (Second y)         = Second (fb y)     weirdMap' (Third ((x,y):zs)) = Third ( (fa x, fb y) : weirdMap' (Third zs)) weirdMap' (Fourth w)        = --More to follow

However, this expression

weirdMap' (Third ((x,y):zs)) = Third ( (fa x, fb y) : weirdMap' (Third zs))

is wrong since it tries to cons an (a,b) pair to something that is not a list (weirdMap' (Third zs) evaluates to a Weird c d). For that to work you'd need to extract the zs and provide a base case for the recursion:

weirdMap' (Third []) = Third [] weirdMap' (Third ((x,y):zs)) = Third ( (fa x, fb y) : ( (\(Third z) -> z) (weirdMap' (Third zs)) )

Needless to say, that is horribly awkward, and is probably best left to an exercise (say, "rewrite weirdMap' (Third z) making the recursion applied to the list z explicit). Also, the example is followed by:

 * First we change (a,b) into (fa a, fb b). Next we need the mapped version of the rest of the list to add to it. Since we don't know a function for a list of (a,b), we must change it back to a Weird value, by adding Third. This isn't really stylish, though, as we first "unwrap" the Weird package, and then pack it back in. This can be changed into a more elegant solution, in which we don't even have to break list elements into tuples!

I also take issue with the "we don't even have to break list elements into tuples" part, which doesn't really make sense (if the author was referring to breaking down the list into its elements, map is doing that implicitly). I will probably rewrite this part in the next few hours. --Duplode (talk) 01:41, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Left vs. Right
I was not aware that this had been edited multiple times before (revision history), but Sgronblo is right— should be used for representing errors, per the official documentation. Nyuszika7H (discuss • contribs) 13:59, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

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Technologies for Rural Development
As a city-boy turned farmer, I'm interested in this topic. What do you have in mind here? -- SB_Johnny | talk 16:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The concept at this stage is quite simple; create a book about technologies that can help poor communities. It should be directed at a young audience so that it can be used for education purposes. At present I am working on the water resource module, the idea I have is to focus on one module per month. --MJBT 19:44, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:How to use a Motorola DVR/Resets

A little confusing on the full reset - the warning states that it will delete your DVR settings, but that it won't delete your DVR settings...which is it, please?

Huh?
"The DVR should be turned on. Press CABLE, POWER to turn off the box."

Should it be "turned on," or "off"? Good grief.

Full reset procedures
Can't be bothered to type it out properly, but I know almost all reset procedures as it is part of my job.

 * 1) DCT 700/1200 : unplug power, plug it back in while holding the Power button on the remote. As soon as the front LEDs light up, release Power and type 328. Both LEDs should light up twice to confirm reset
 * 2) DCT series  (6200 to 6416 to 3416) : unplug power, hold Power and Select on front panel and plug back power. Release power and select once front screen displays 88:88
 * 3) DCX 700 : plug power cord, once front LEDs light up, press and hold OK/Select, until one of the 3 LEDs turn off then dial 328 on the remote
 * 4) DCX 3400 : unplug power, plug it back in and immediately press both Power and Select on the front panel, timing is key and can be hard to pull off
 * 5) DCX 3510/3520 : unplug power, plug it back in while holding Ok/Select on the remote. Once REC1 and REC2 indicators light up on front screen, release OK and type 328 on the remote. Front panel should display COLD.

As I work for a local cable provider, I can send Cold Reset signals to all STBs remotely so I rarely need to use those. Also...

Misc. checks

 * All the following can be accessed by accessing the Diagnostics screen. The process is described in the Hard drive reset section.

Download status

 * Accessing D08 Code Modules can display the download status for resetted STBs. The last two lines display the firmware versions for the actual software and the iGuide for that particular STB, it's state (Enabled, Disabled or Loading) and various other information. In the Loading state, the number displayed next to SEG in the header displays the remaining amount of "packets" needed to complete the download. Pressing the Down arrow refreshes that number.
 * D03 OOB Status displays the relevant info for the carrier signal. SNR level should be above 17 or 18dB. If below that value, the guide can have trouble downloading. N/A means the STB is probably broke.
 * D04 Inband Status displays relevant info for each tuner. SNR levels should be above 32dB for SD channels and above 34-35dB for HD channels. Lower values can lead to "mosaic" artifacts in the image. Issues can be bad cabling and/or connections.
 * D13 DVR/HDD Status displays info for the internal and external hard drives. Should be self-explanatory.

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Talk:Russian/Names

Untitled
Adding stress marks (знаки ударения) would help in the Russian name pronunciation. For instance, until learning from a Russian how to pronounce Борис (Boris), I had always thought the stress was on the first syllable. Properly pronounced in Russian, however, it's on the second syllable.

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Cookbook:Pasta with Hot Dogs

This dish contains pasta and chopped hot dogs, baked in an oven. If fresh pasta is used for this recipe, the amount of pasta must be doubled.

Ingredients

 * 200 g pasta (can be reduced)
 * 300 g hot dogs, chopped
 * 1 leek, chopped
 * 1 red bell pepper, chopped
 * 350 g maize corn (optional)
 * 4 eggs
 * 2 dl milk
 * 1 tsp salt
 * ½ tsp black pepper

Procedure

 * 1) Boil and drain the pasta according to directions on package.
 * 2) Combine pasta, hot dogs, red pepper, and maize corn in a baking dish.
 * 3) Whisk the eggs and milk together, and season as needed with salt and pepper.
 * 4) Pour the egg mixture over the dry ingredients, and bake everything together in a 200–225°C oven for 25–35 minutes.

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Summary
Screenshot I took of a dialog box

Licensing
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Summary
Screenshot I took of a dialog box.

Licensing
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Magic: The Gathering/Assassin Format

Assassin Format is typically played in groups of five or more. The name of each player is put into a hat (or whatever) and each player draws a name, to be kept secret. The rules are thus: A player may only attack the player whose name they drew, or any player that has attacked them at any point in the game (universal effect cards can be played, just as long as your target could be hit with it, e.g. Skullcage, Radiance). If they drew their own name they may attack any or all other players (strategy here, simply build up your forces until you can swamp a player, since no one can target you until you attack them). All types of spells, with the exception of those with universal effects, may only target the player drawn or players who have since attacked you (counter spells, creatures, instants, sorceries...). Any method of attack goes. Speed rules are usually enforced, since this format tends to take over an hour to play.

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User:Jatkins

I'm still alive, just only at Wikipedia and at the Commons. --Jatkins (talk) 16:37, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

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Muggles' Guide to Harry Potter/Characters/Cormac McLaggen

Overview
Cormac McLaggen is a member of Gryffindor house, and one of Ron's 'competitors' for a few things, including Hermione and Quidditch.

Half-Blood Prince
On the Hogwarts Express, Professor Slughorn invites a number of students to his compartment for lunch, including Harry Potter, Neville Longbottom, Ginny Weasley, Marcus Belby, Blaise Zabini, and Cormac McLaggen. It seems that most of them are invited because of their famous relatives, or because they are famous in their own right as Harry is, or because of their own apparent magical ability: Ginny is invited because Slughorn saw her performing a flawless Bat-Bogey hex. Harry recognizes this as Slughorn re-establishing his Slug Club.

McLaggen tries out for the Gryffindor Quidditch team, hoping to replace Ron Weasley as Keeper. Each Keeper candidate has five chances to stop shots on goal; Ron stops all five, but McLaggen fumbles the final one, and Ron is selected as Keeper. Ron comments that McLaggen had looked Confunded on his last shot; Hermione blushes, but Ron doesn't notice. Later, Harry sees McLaggen apparently having trouble negotiating the front steps into Hogwarts, and asks Hermione about it. Hermione, aware of his bad temper and denigrating comments about Ron and the other Keepers being tried, quietly admits having Confunded him during his trials so that Harry would have a valid reason to select Ron instead of him.

With Ron thoroughly entangled in Lavender Brown, Hermione does not have anyone she can take to Professor Slughorn's "Slug Club" Christmas party. She invites McLaggen to make Ron jealous. Once there, finding McLaggen's unrelenting efforts to maneuver her under the mistletoe tiresome, she manages to lose him, instead talking to Harry and his date, Luna Lovegood.

When Ron is put out of action by a glass of poisoned mead, Harry reluctantly puts McLaggen in the team as Keeper. McLaggen immediately starts acting like team captain, trying to set tactics for the games, and telling the other players what is wrong with what they are doing. During the game against Hufflepuff, he borrows a Beater's bat to demonstrate the proper way to hit a Bludger, mis-hits it, and fractures Harry's skull. With Harry out of the game, Gryffindor loses very heavily to Hufflepuff. McLaggen is, of course, cut from the team immediately after Harry regains consciousness.

Strengths
McLaggen is well-connected due to his famous family. He has a huge amount of self-confidence and self-assurance.

He also has some knowledge of Quidditch and is a relatively talented player.

Weaknesses
McLaggen is not as good at Quidditch as he thinks he is - the one time we see him play, he is solely responsible for Gryffindor's crushing defeat.

He is overconfident and brash, which makes him completely unaware of the feelings of the people around him. At points McLaggen appears to be completely without empathy, almost as if he is not hearing anything other than his own voice.

Relationships with Other Characters
McLaggen is very self-important and self-centred, and must be the centre of any group he is part of. He seems to be one of those irritating people who think they know everything. He tries to reinforce this view by demeaning and insulting those who might know more than he does. When he is passed over for what he considers an honour, he can have a very bad temper.

Analysis
Cormac McLaggen is an example of a negative Gryffindor character - whereas, as early as the first book, we are conditioned to believe that Gryffindor is the 'good' house and Slytherin the 'evil' one, as the series progresses, we begin to see all of Hogwarts in shades of grey. McLaggen is a good example; he is in Gryffindor, but throughout every single appearance, there is nothing to like about him. He is a thoroughly dislikeable character and displays none of the chivalrous virtue that Gryffindor is famous for.

We will note that he is in Gryffindor for the right reason, however - he is confident, which is also a Gryffindor trait.

Questions

 * 1) What are McLaggen's weaknesses?
 * 2) What do you think the Gryffindor Quidditch team did to McLaggen after their loss?
 * 3) How old might McLaggen be?
 * 4) Did McLaggen actually have any interest in Hermione, or did he just want to go to the party with someone?

Greater Picture
Harry's tenure as Quidditch captain is being explored throughout the book. He was shown to be fair when selecting Ron over McLaggen (as Ron saved more goals) and wise in his placement of the rest of the team. It is of some note that McLaggen automatically assumed that he would be playing Keeper with Ron incapacitated. Despite Harry's dislike of McLaggen, he agrees, to keep the team in play; this, however, shows more about Harry's character than McLaggen's.


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Muggles' Guide to Harry Potter/Characters/Penelope Clearwater

Overview
Penelope Clearwater is a girl in Ravenclaw house. When she is first identified in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, we are told that she is in her fifth year, thus she is three years ahead of Harry. We also learn that she is a prefect. In later editions of the book, her year was changed to sixth year when we first meet her, for reasons described below.

Chamber of Secrets
Penelope Clearwater is first seen, although unidentified, at Christmas; Harry and Ron, disguised as Crabbe and Goyle, are wandering around looking for the Slytherin common room, and ask her for directions. Shortly after she rebuffs them, they run into Percy, who threatens them.

In April, Penelope Clearwater is petrified by the Monster in the Chamber of Secrets; Hermione is attacked at the same time. Percy is deeply shocked by this attack, possibly because he believed that Prefects would be protected by their office.

It is only at the end that it is revealed that Penelope is Percy's girlfriend; this explains the magnitude of the shock Percy feels when she is petrified, as well as explaining what she was doing in the school's lower levels at Christmas, near where Percy was. This also is the reason Penelope's age was changed in later book editions: first, until sixth year she could not be a prefect, and second, if she's in sixth year she's the same age as Percy, making it more likely that she could be his girlfriend.

Prisoner of Azkaban
Ron complains of having to use Errol for his correspondence because Percy has been sending messages back and forth to Penelope all summer, fully occupying Hermes' time.

While all the Weasleys are staying at the Leaky Cauldron preparatory to departing for Hogwarts, Percy accuses Ron (who is sharing a room with him) of spilling tea on Penelope's picture; apparently the image has some spots on her nose and is trying to hide behind the frame.

Before the Quidditch match with Ravenclaw, Harry brings his new Firebolt broom down to breakfast. Many other students come over to look at it, including Penelope, who asks if she can hold it. Percy warns her against sabotage, then later remarks that he has a ten-Galleon bet on the outcome of the game with Penelope. He later tells Harry that Gryffindor has to win, because he doesn't have ten Galleons.

Deathly Hallows
When Harry, Ron, and Hermione are trapped by Snatchers, Hermione claims to be Penelope Clearwater. Unfortunately, this ruse does not last, as her likeness in a newspaper clipping identifies her as one of the people believed traveling with Undesirable Number 1, Harry Potter.

Relationships with Other Characters
Penelope is Percy Weasley's girlfriend throughout the first three books, though it is unsure if their relationship still stands because she never directly appeared in any book after Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. Percy's estrangement from the other Weasleys, up until the final book, likely left his family in doubt as to the state of his personal relationships.

There is no indication that Penelope and Hermione were friends while at Hogwarts, but in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Hermione, to hide her identity, claims her name is Penelope Clearwater when Snatchers capture her, along with Harry and Ron. Whether she chose this name because Penelope was still in a relationship with Percy at the time is unknown, though it seems more likely that the name randomly occurred to Hermione because it had a prior connection to the Weasley family.

In the Weasley family tree that the author created following the series, it is revealed that Percy marries one Audrey. We can, therefore, assume that his relationship with Penelope had ended some time earlier.


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Muggles' Guide to Harry Potter/Characters/Blaise Zabini

Overview
 Blaise Zabini  is a Hogwarts student in Harry's year. He is a member of Slytherin House.

Philosopher's Stone
Blaise Zabini is Sorted into Slytherin. He is the final student to be Sorted.

Half-Blood Prince
Blaise Zabini is invited to dine with Professor Slughorn on the Hogwarts Express, along with Harry, in Professor Slughorn's renascent Slug Club. Zabini's claim to fame is apparently that his mother is a famously beautiful witch, whose seven successive husbands all died mysteriously and left her pots of Galleons.

Harry follows Blaise back to his compartment on the Hogwarts Express, hoping to overhear some conversation with Draco Malfoy that would give him some clue as to what Malfoy had planned. Malfoy drops some hints, but does not say anything particularly helpful, perhaps because he has seen Harry's foot as Harry climbed into the luggage rack.

Later in the book, Harry notices Zabini "lolling against a pillar" near where he is standing, and makes sure not to say anything incriminating.

Strengths
Blaise Zabini is intelligent. He is also presumably well-off as a result of having a wealthy mother.

Weaknesses
Blaise is described as being excessively vain, as well as bitter, self-centered, and clever. He does not actively participate in the fight against the Light, but is rather more concerned with protecting himself. He does not associate himself fully with anyone, he is considered a loner, although he is somewhat of a friend of Malfoy's. He finds Ginny Weasley attractive, but would never pursue a relationship with her, due to her family's Blood Traitor status.

Relationships with Other Characters
He is a friend of Draco Malfoy's, and seems to get along with Pansy Parkinson, to an extent. Other than that, he doesn't really associate himself with the other students.

As outlined above, he has a small crush on Ginny Weasley.

Analysis
Blaise is a typical Slytherin, with a streak of elitism and self-centred attitude in addition to the traditional Slytherin traits. It may be of note that Malfoy doesn't say too much in the train, although he is aware of Harry's presence, which may explain his reticence to reveal anything. Not being in Malfoy's inner circle, he probably wouldn't hear the finer details anyway.

Questions

 * 1) What side is Zabini on, if indeed he takes sides?

Greater Picture
After his mention in the early stages of Philosopher's Stone, Zabini is not mentioned again until his appearance in Half-Blood Prince. During the intervening time, Blaise appeared in a fair number of fanfics, with a number of variations in loyalty, appearance and gender.

His appearance also serves to "flesh out" the Slytherin roster - as we see very little of Slytherin house in Harry's year (Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle, Pansy, and possibly Millicent Bulstrode), Zabini serves as a reminder that Hogwarts is comprised of more than just a handful of main characters.


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 * պատուհան : window - patuhan
 * գրասեղան : desk
 * ննջարան : bedroom
 * մահճակալ : bed/bedding - ankoghin

Kitchen/խոհանոց

 * աթոռ : chair - ator
 * սեղան : table - seghan
 * սառնարան : refrigerator - sarnaran
 * ափսե : plate - apse
 * աման : bowl - aman
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Cookbook:Holiday Cake (Spiced Fruitcake Loaf)

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The original recipe contributor submitted the following information:"'This is from an old recipe book of my mother's. There's a little note on the page: 'fruitcake—only better'. It's tricky to get right but it's well worth the time and effort. We usually make it around Christmastime.'"

Ingredients

 * 1 cup (240 ml) pitted dates
 * 2 cups (480 ml) maraschino cherries
 * ½ cup (120 ml) cherry juice
 * 1 cup (240 ml) butter
 * 3 cups (720 ml) brown sugar
 * 5 large eggs, separated
 * 1 cup (240 ml) milk
 * 2 tsp vanilla
 * 3 ½ cups (830 ml) sifted flour
 * 4 tsp baking powder
 * ½ tsp cloves
 * ½ tsp allspice
 * ½ tsp nutmeg
 * 1 tsp cinnamon
 * 1 tsp salt
 * 2 ½ cups (600 ml) chopped nuts

Day 1

 * 1) Cut dates and cherries into small pieces and soak them in cherry juice overnight.

Day 2

 * 1) Preheat oven to 250°F (120˚C).
 * 2) Cream butter, add half of the sugar. Beat until fluffy.
 * 3) In another bowl beat egg yolks until thick. Add remaining sugar.
 * 4) Combine the two mixtures and beat together.
 * 5) Sift together flour, salt, baking powder, and spices.
 * 6) Add dry ingredients and milk alternately to wet mixture, beating well after each addition.
 * 7) Fold in stiffly-beaten egg whites.
 * 8) Add in fruit and nuts dredged lightly with flour.
 * 9) Bake in lined loaf pans in slow oven for 3 hours.


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Statistics/Distributions/Uniform

Continuous Uniform Distribution
The (continuous) uniform distribution, as its name suggests, is a distribution with probability densities that are the same at each point in an interval. In casual terms, the uniform distribution shapes like a rectangle.

Mathematically speaking, the probability density function of the uniform distribution is defined as

$$ f\colon[a,b]\to\R $$

$$ f\left(x\right)={1 \over {b-a}} $$

And the cumulative distribution function is:

$$ F\left(x\right)= \begin{cases} 0, & \mbox{if } x \le a \\ {{x-a} \over {b-a}}, & \mbox{if } a < x < b\\ 1, & \mbox{if } x \ge b \end{cases} $$

Mean
We derive the mean as follows.
 * $$\operatorname{E}[X] = \int^\infin_{-\infin}xf(x) dx$$

As the uniform distribution is 0 everywhere but [a, b] we can restrict ourselves that interval
 * $$\operatorname{E}[X] = \int^b_a {1 \over {b-a}} x dx$$
 * $$\operatorname{E}[X] = \left.{1 \over (b-a)}{1 \over 2} x^2 \right|^b_a$$
 * $$\operatorname{E}[X] = {1 \over 2(b-a)}\left[ b^2-a^2 \right]$$
 * $$\operatorname{E}[X] = {b+a \over 2}$$

Variance
We use the following formula for the variance.
 * $$\operatorname{Var}(X) = \operatorname{E}[X^2]-(\operatorname{E}[X])^2$$
 * $$\operatorname{Var}(X) = \left[\int^\infin_{-\infin}f(x) \cdot x^2 dx\right]-\left({b+a \over 2}\right)^2$$
 * $$\operatorname{Var}(X) = \left[\int^b_a {1 \over {b-a}} x^2 dx\right]-{(b+a)^2 \over 4}$$
 * $$\operatorname{Var}(X) = \left. {1 \over {b-a}}{1 \over 3} x^3 \right|^b_a-{(b+a)^2 \over 4}$$
 * $$\operatorname{Var}(X) = {1 \over 3(b-a)}[b^3-a^3] -{(b+a)^2 \over 4}$$
 * $$\operatorname{Var}(X) = {4(b^3-a^3)-3(b+a)^2(b-a) \over 12(b-a)}$$
 * $$\operatorname{Var}(X) = {(b-a)^3 \over 12(b-a)}$$
 * $$\operatorname{Var}(X) = {(b-a)^2 \over 12}$$

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Risk Mitigation
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 * Hardhat
 * Work gloves
 * Safety goggles
 * Work boots or closed toe, closed heel shoes

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add summary statistics, expected values, cdfs. more importantly, give a qualitative description of the uniform distribution. why do we care about this distribution?

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Sexual Health

This book is intended to be an expository companion for a comprehensive sexual education class for school students between 7th - 12th grade.

Anatomy and Sexuality

 * /Basic Reproductive Anatomy/
 * /Sex Cells/
 * /Sexuality/

Sexual Activity and Risks

 * /Sexual Touching/
 * /Sex/
 * /Pregnancy/
 * /Sexually Transmitted Diseases/
 * /Anal Sex/

Birth Control

 * /Abstinence/
 * /Barrier Birth Control and Spermicide/
 * /Hormonal Contraceptives/
 * /Other Birth Control Methods/
 * Condoms

Problems and Issues

 * /Fertility and Infertility/
 * /Sexual Dysfunction/
 * /Aging/
 * /Cancer/
 * /Sexual Harassment/ (what it is, not a how-to)
 * /Rape/ (getting help afterwards, mental and physical issues)
 * /Incest/

Resources and Licensing

 * /References/
 * /Resources/

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Sexual Health/Barrier Birth Control and Spermicide

Barrier methods of birth control use a physical barrier to prevent the man's sperm from entering the woman's reproductive tract. Spermicide is often used with barrier methods to provide increased protection from pregnancy.

Condoms, both male and female, additionally provide protection from sexually transmitted diseases.

Origins of Male Condoms
Condoms have been around for a lot longer than we think. From as early as 1000 BC, Egyptians used a linen cloth, Chinese used oil-soaked silk paper, and the Japanese even went so far as to use turtle shells and horn. The oldest condoms found were discovered in 1640 in Birmingham, England, made of fish and animal intestine. Condoms made of animal intestines were popular in England at that time, but were very expensive and often reused. The mass production of latex condoms began in 1844, but at the time were as thick as bicycle inner tubes and had a seam down the side. Manufacturing improved in the 1930s, making the single-use condom almost as thin and inexpensive as condoms found today.

Guidelines for male condom use

 * Condoms should never be stored in hot places like car glove-compartments or wallets kept in pockets close to the body, as prolonged exposure to heat weakens latex.
 * Sharp fingernails can damage condoms.
 * Condoms are best put on the erect penis as soon as an erection is achieved and before any contact with the other person's body, and should always be put on before contact with a vagina or anus.
 * Retracting the foreskin before putting on a condom maximizes mobility and reduces the risk of breakage during intercourse.
 * Room needs to be left at the tip of a condom to hold semen. Most condoms have a reservoir tip that should be pinched while applying the condom to avoid trapping an air bubble which could burst later.
 * Water-based sexual lubricants, such as KY Jelly, are safe for use with condoms, but oil-based lubricants weaken latex and may cause it to tear or develop holes. Lubrication can be used to reduce the abrasion on the condom during vaginal sex, and is virtually essential for anal sex. However lubrication should be used with care. One study has shown that additional lubrication may double the rate of condom slippage for vaginal sex and increase the rate of condom slippage for oral sex. The rate of condom slippage during anal sex however was reduced.
 * Some condoms are designed specifically for anal sex. The material is slightly thicker, making these condoms less likely to tear than those designed for vaginal sex.
 * Condoms should be discarded after the expiration date on the package. Even ones that seem fine past that date may be more likely to burst later.
 * The penis should be withdrawn immediately after ejaculation, even if the erection can be maintained; leaving it in leads to needless risk.
 * The base of the condom should be held during withdrawal to prevent the condom from slipping off.
 * One's hands and penis should be washed before further physical contact with another person (including the sexual partner).
 * Condoms are for single use only, and should never be reused.
 * Condoms are available in special sizes for people who require larger or smaller ones.
 * Practicing applying condoms alone in a well lighted place can help a man learn to apply it correctly before using them for sex.

Advantages of lubricating the inside tip of a condom

 * Makes sex with a condom feel more like sex without a condom.
 * A thicker condom may be used with no loss of sensation. (Very thick condoms could be made to be used this way.)
 * This may encourage more to use condoms especially if it enables them to achieve orgasm with a condom on.

Possible disadvantages of lubricating the inside tip of a condom

 * The condom may be more likely to break (especially if there is not adequate lubrication on the outside) because the penis may push to the end of the condom and stretch the tip to the breaking point (during ejaculation).
 * If the condom breaks, the added sensation of the penis slipping inside the condom may make it more difficult for the penis to feel that the condom has broken.
 * Lubrication mixed with pre-ejaculate, semen, or infected skin cells may leak around the open end of the condom, especially if too much lubrication is used on the inside.
 * The condom may slip up and allow contact of skin or genital fluids, or at least the slipping may interrupt sex while the penis is dried, (sanitized), and a new condom put on.

General instructions for putting on a male condom

 * 1) Check the expiry date on the condom wrapper - Condoms have a printed expiry date and batch number. Do not use out of date condoms for sexual contacts, using them for practicing applying condoms alone especially by less experienced users is advised.
 * 2) Gently apply pressure to the condom wrapper to make sure it has a slight pillow-like quality to it, indicating air inside and proper and unbroken sealing. Otherwise air may have escaped from tear or punctures and the condom itself may be damaged as well.
 * 3) Exercising caution, open the foil (or plastic) wrapper along one side. Be careful not to damage the condom with sharp objects.
 * 4) If the condom is sticky or brittle, discard it and use another one.
 * 5) Press firmly together the tip of the condom to expel air that may be trapped inside the condom. Air pockets can cause the condom to burst. This tip is there to contain the discharge in ejaculation. Hold the condom by the tip.
 * 6) Ensure that the penis is fully erect — a condom may fall off the penis which is only partially erect.
 * 7) In case of an uncircumcised penis, retract the foreskin before applying the condom.
 * 8) Check that the condom is in the right direction to unroll down the penis and before unrolling put it on the tip of the penis. If you accidentally try to put it on the wrong way, discard it and start over with a new condom. Touching the wrong side of the condom with the penis can transfer bodily fluids, defeating its purpose.
 * 9) Unroll the condom over the shaft of the penis. Unroll it all the way. If it does not unroll, it is on the wrong way and you must start over with a new condom.
 * 10) Make sure the condom isn't loose or at risk of coming off.
 * 11) It may be essential to lubricate the outside of the condom to keep it from breaking, especially if lubrication was used on the inside.
 * 12) Do not allow the penis to go flaccid at any time while wearing or putting on the condom, or you will have to discard the condom.

Some men who feel a particular size condom is hard to put on because it is too small have reported that they partly unroll the condom, stretch it with both index fingers, insert the penis (asking their partner to expel air from the tip), remove fingers and unroll. This procedure is not recommended as one's fingernails can come in contact with the condom. Consider buying a larger condom, or practicing the approved method above.

Condom Size
Measure: 1. In order to accurately measure penis size, first you must have an erect penis (since penis size when flaccid is not an accurate measurement). 2. Measure Penis Length with a ruler or measuring tape. Position the ruler or measuring tape at the base of your penis (where it attaches to your body - make sure to press into the pubic bone as far as you can because fat can actually hide the length of your penis). 3. Measure Penis Girth with a piece of string (or something similar) or a soft measuring tape. Gently wrap the string one time around the thickest part of the shaft/body of your erect penis (yes, it still needs to be erect!). Fit: Small Condoms Fits Length:  3 Inches - 6 Inches Fits Girth:  4 Inches - 5 Inches Examples:  Any condom represented as small or snug. Regular Condoms Fits Length: 4 Inches - 7 Inches Fits Girth:  5 Inches - 6 Inches Examples:  Any condom that does not specify a size. Large Condoms Fits Length: 5 Inches - 8 Inches Fits Girth:  6 Inches - 7 Inches Examples:  Any condom represented as large or magnum. X-Large Condoms Fits Length: 6 Inches - 9 Inches Fits Girth:  7 Inches - 8 Inches Examples:  Any condom represented as extra-large or XL.

Guidelines for female condom use

 * Because they are not made of latex, all lubricants, including oil-based ones, may be safely used with female condoms.
 * Female condoms may be inserted up to 8 hours prior to sexual intercourse.
 * Placement of female condoms does not require a male erection.
 * Newer condoms made from nitrile are less likely to make rustling noises than the original polyurethane condoms.
 * Any "rustling" can be counteracted by applying extra lubricant to the inside of the condom
 * Applying lubricant to the inside of the condom also reduces the chances of the outer ring being pulled into the vagina during intercourse.

General instructions for placing a female condom

 * The condom should be removed carefully from the packaging;
 * The small inner ring should be squeezed closed;
 * The inner ring should be pushed into the vagina, the outer ring remaining outside;
 * The penis should be guided through the outer ring to ensure that it is not pushed aside.
 * Before removing the condom, the outer ring should be squeezed and twisted (while the wearer is still lying down, if applicable) to ensure that semen does not leak out of the pouch. Pull to remove the condom.

Spermicides
Spermicides significantly reduce the risk of pregnancy, but are not considered "highly effective" when used alone. They can, however, significantly increase the effectiveness of other methods. Concurrent use of condoms and spermicide theoretically results in failure rates as low as that of hormonal methods.

There are many different types of spermicides. Spermicidal foams may be inserted directly into the vagina. Films are also inserted into the vagina, but the couple must wait at least 15 minutes after insertion (to allow the film to dissolve) before beginning intercourse.

Spermicides are designed for specific uses. Those meant for use inside cervical barriers (creams and jellies) should not be used alone or with condoms, and vice versa.

If the spermicide causes irritation to the genitals of either partner, or if the woman develops a vaginal infection following spermicide use, the couple should use a different birth control method.

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Sexual Health
I see that you actually started this book. I'm glad you did. I've wanted to create it for a while, but I just haven't had the time. If you need any help with this project, or anything else on wikibooks, don't hesitate to let me know. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 00:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Cowper's Fluid
Hey Lyrl. I've seen sources before that claims cowpers fluid can contain sperm. Of course, i don't have the sources on me, but I have seen it in writing. I'll look around and see if I can find anything to confirm this or not. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 23:03, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Actually, i did find a quote from that very wikipedia artical:
 * it is now believed the primary cause of method failure is the pre-ejaculate fluid picking up sperm from a previous ejaculation.
 * The method by which the sperm can enter the pre-ejaculate fluid is inconsequential compared to the fact that there can be sperm in it at all. I think that we should point this fact out, if only in the interest of completeness. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 23:07, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:Sexual Health/Barrier Birth Control and Spermicide

I changed the "Condom Use" image to the alternative version, which is image-filtered, and is less photographic. I think, for the time being, it is a better idea for us to not to show too many graphic images, even if there are alot of them to be found at commons. We can have a complete discussion about this topic, if people think we can display more graphic images (perhaps with a disclaimer, or a warning, or something). --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 01:06, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Loss of redirect and talk page
Copying the information to this page from the misspelled page has lost all the edit histories, talk page, and messed up redirects (from the Wikipedia article condom, primarily). The redirect issue can be fixed by manually changing it (I don't think any other articles besides the condom one linked to the old page), but the edit history and talk page are important (at least, this is what was drilled into me at Wikipedia).

Could an administrator be persuaded to delete the correctly-spelled page so that the edit history and talk page content could be moved here? Lyrl 01:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm not going to delete it, that doesnt make any sense to me. I will, however, copy the text of the old talk page to here. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 01:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Contents of old talk page
Oh my goodness, no one has complained about the use of an erect penis here yet! It is great to see, if someone needs to see this guide then chances are a visual aid will also help them. If even one life is affected by seeing that article and picture (wether it is pregnancy, STD or especially an eventually fatal STD) then it is all worth while. Big thank you to whoever put it there, common sense prevails! 202.191.106.29 17:05, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree, definitely worth having here. What is best when the condom is not as long as the shaft? Stretching it appears to increase the chance of breakage. 213.2.21.113 15:16, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


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Outline based on that made by Whiteknight

Other Wikibooks that might have relevent information:
 * Sexual sex/Who's Doing What
 * sex tapes/under age of 18
 * guide to porn Activity/Relationship

porn 11 August 2020 (pornhurb)

Hygiene
I'm rethinking the inclusion of this as a main topics. Hygiene, particularly, children need to learn way before the target age of this book. (Assuming hygiene means things like wiping front to back for women and care of uncircumcised penises for men.) Things like making sure to pee after intercourse (for women), and washing hands before inserting them into the vagina (if using a cervical barrier, for example), can be covered in other sections. Lyrl 02:04, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree with you, perhaps we need to include some sections (if not the whole book) that can be targeted for a younger audience. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 02:05, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

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