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Hello...
I´m come from Duisburg Germany. I´m sorry for my bad english, but I think, that I learn here in the english Wikibooks more englisch. I want to write a germanbook, I work in the german Wikibooks on a project for Schoolbooks, can I spend some pages for an german learing book, please correct me, if I do an mistake, or can speak here someone german (Deutsch: Also ich werde mich jetzt anmelden, damit ihr mir antwort geben könnt) --User: Oceancetaceen

 * Halo, ich wohne in Kaiserslautern. Was genau willst du machen? Und was brauchst du von hier? Yasirniazkhan (talk) 11:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Quick question
Is it fine if we borrow (factual data) from other Wikimedia projects? Nothing much, I only wanted the exact definition of a term from Wikipedia.

SPat (talk) 12:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * As long as you credit it (a link to Wikipedia in the edit summary is great) then Sure! If it's more than a sentence or two we can do an import. Just list whatever page(s) you want at WB:RFI. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 18:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I had already added it, so I'm giving the link and credit in the talk page

SPat (talk) 08:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Pakistani/indian recipes in cookbook
Hi, i am Yasir. I have been working on Wikipedia for some time. Recently I stumbled upon Cookbook and decided to contribute to it. Yasirniazkhan (talk) 11:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Welcome Yasirniazkhan, glad to have another Cookbook contributor especially in recipes from my favourite food region. Please take some time to check out the Cookbook:Policy, and perhaps chat with some other Cookbook contributors. Webaware talk 06:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Image help
How do we include images that are already uploaded in Commons? Specifically, could anyone tell me how to put image here?

SPat (talk) 08:16, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Two separate questions, so they get separate answers:
 * To use an image from Commons, just use it as if it had been uploaded to Wikibooks. The MediaWiki software will check for the image locally, and if it doesn't find it, it will check for it in Commons.
 * The Hilbert curve image you've specified is a local image in Wikipedia, so it can't be used directly. You can either move it to Commons yourself using the Commons helper, request for it to be moved to Commons for you, or simply use one of the other images already on Commons.
 * Let's know if you need further assistance, especially if you need the Wikipedia image moved to Commons. Webaware talk 08:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

SPat (talk) 08:38, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That image is already there in commons, but I'm not sure how to include it in the module.

 * Like this: [[Image:Hilbert curve.png]] . Wiki will do the magic and work out that it can get it from Commons. Webaware talk 08:43, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

SPat (talk) 09:05, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot, it works fine

re Wikibook SLOVIO
Hi! your text says: "... the name of the language comes from the pre-Slavic word SLOVO..." Mind you: "pre-Slavic" is wrong. There's no pre-Slavic (or for that matter "pre-Germanic", "pre-Latin", pre-Greek" ...)language, unless you consider reconstructed Indo-European a real language. So I'd suggest you change it to "old-Slavic", which it really is!  Thanks for your attention. You're doing a great job!    Bruno
 * This is a wiki, so you can be bold and fix things yourself. I've updated the page with your suggested wording. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 11:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello.
Hello, fellow Wikibookians. My name is Michael and I currently reside in South Africa. I will be primarily editing the Muggles' Guide to Harry Potter, but I plan to expand in the future. Thank you. Cysiro (talk) 14:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

New book
Hi, I'm creating a new book called "Issues in Digital Technology in Education". The chapters will be written by graduate students in a course I'm teaching this spring. Ron
 * Guidelines for class projects has good information you might find useful. You should list this at List of class projects so we can keep track of what's going on. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 20:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Answers to excercises
What is the Wikibook policy on answers to exercises in science/math related books? Should they be provided? and if so, where? --SPat (talk) 13:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

 * There isn't any policy. Its up to the people working on the book to decide it among themselves, if to do it, when to do it, and where in the book to do it. --dark lama  19:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Image upload
I wish to upload an image that is available either as ".bmp" or ".doc". How do you convert it to one of the acceptable formats?

SPat (talk) 04:20, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Your graphics program can likely do conversions. IrfanView or GIMP can do so too. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 20:35, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Capitalization of sections
Unlike Wikipedia, Wikibooks uses title case instead of sentence case in the names of books and their chapters, as specified at Naming policy. Is there any consensus on whether sections of the books should be in title case or sentence case? Judging from looking around the books in here, there seems to be inconsistency among different books, even within single books. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:10, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, there's no standardization between books. A single book should probably be consistent though. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 20:34, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

MS Access and VBA programming excel
Hi, Can anyone help me in providing the detailed basics on MS Access and VBA programming in excel for beginners. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.2.238.143 (talk • contribs) 07:10, August 22, 2007.
 * Hi,
 * A good source of problem solving solutions for VBA Excel can be had at http://www.cpearson.com/excel/topic.aspx.  Also http://www.erlandsendata.no/english/ is a good source.

Armchair (talk) 14:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

noinclude & noinclude
Seen this used quite a bit in templates and most likely it would be useful to use. Can someone explain how these works. I realise they include or don't include the code in between but I don't understand when they do or don't include code. ChessCreator (talk) 09:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

 * They have to do with including/embedding one page inside another using syntax. noinclude content can be seen within the template/page itself, but not on any pages or templates that include it. includeonly content can't be seen when viewing the template/page itself, but is shown when viewing pages or templates that include it. noinclude is commonly used for embedding documentation inside templates which obviously shouldn't show up when you use the template and for categorizing a template differently any pages which use it. includeonly is commonly used for adding categories that will only apply to pages that use the template. Does that help any? --dark  lama  15:38, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, excellent! I will most likely find uses for both. ChessCreator (talk) 16:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Extension:FlaggedRevs
Apparently this extension is now live on the testing sites, and will possibly be coming to Wikibooks soon. From past discussion, I think we do want the extension, but there have been widely varying ideas of how we should be using it. Since much of that discussion was hypothetical, I think we should discuss this again in terms of what the extension actually does. I'm definitely not up to speed on exactly what it does, but perhaps those who are could explain the features concisely, and suggest uses. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 17:25, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The test sites for this extension are http://en.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page and http://de.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hauptseite. All users are invited to help test out this feature. Experiment with it, try to break it, suggest new features, report bugs and come up with how you think we should use it if at all. We need input - although this is a long-awaited feature, we haven't put together plans since we didn't know what it would be capable of. So please do test it out for us. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 03:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Massive SUL problems, project mergers

 * [[Image:Symbol wtf vote.svg|15px]] April Fools'! It was fun while it lasted. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 03:32, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

It shouldn't come as a surprise that SUL has cause a few problems in the past few days. We've been pretty safe here on Wikibooks, but other projects haven't been so lucky. Unfortunately, all the username conflicts have caused corruption in some of the databases. This, in turn, is causing a domino effect because all the databases are hosted on the same set of servers. A few people, specifically the developers, most of the board members, and also a large number of wikipedians want to merge all the sister projects together into Wikipedia, to keep the databases together. I guess they think this will solve all the user rename problems without having rewrite all the software, or fix the errors that the SUL beta test has been causing. The rationale here is that an emergency project merger, while messy, will help to stabilize all the sites and prevent massive crashes and data losses.

Details are few at the moment, but the gist of the idea goes something like this:
 * 1) All the pages from sister projects get moved into specific namespaces at Wikipedia. We would be the "Wikibooks:" namespace, of course. Pages will be moved directly, without changing namespaces. So, our policy pages would be "Wikibooks:Wikibooks:...". Talk pages would become "Wikibooks:Talk:..." and "Talk:Wikibooks talk:...", etc. I think this is stupid, but the developers assured me that a couple bots could be employed to fix all the naming problems after all the pages are uploaded.
 * 2) The user table will be merged into Wikipedia, and conflicts will basically be resolved like they said SUL would be originally: whichever accounts have the most edits "win", essentially. If anybody needs a rename because of a conflict, let me know now and I can help rename you. This is important because I won't be able to after a while...
 * 3) All our admins and bcrats and checkusers get demoted, although people at WP claim that our trusted admins can be fast-tracked to become admins over there too. I spoke to at least one developer who says that they could create new usergroups, like "wbadmin", and they would only be administrators for pages in the "Wikibooks:" namespace. I don't particularly like this idea, because I'm not sure how vandal blocks and stuff would work.
 * 4) We would gradually be renamed to "Wikipedia Books". Our current logo discussion is basically going to be suspended (we don't need a separate logo since we won't be a separate project anymore). I think our URL will be http://en.books.wikipedia.org/, but I've also heard that we could be temporarily moved to http://books.en.wikipedia.org/Wikibooks_OLD/wbooks_en_db/en/, while they get the databases merged and the DNS entries updated.
 * 5) All of our images would need to get deleted because of problems with namespace mergers with Wikipedia and Commons. While all the rest of the details above are still negotiable, I spoke with a developer who says that the image thing can't be fixed without deleting everything. I suggest, therefore, that all images that need to be saved should be uploaded to commons instead. Commons will temporarily be accepting fair use images, because Wikipedia does and commons is going to be merged into Wikipedia.

Because it's a last ditch emergency, details are few and things are going to be happening quickly in the next few days. I'll try to dig up a link once something official is written up and posted. I know the WMF is working on a press release, and the developers have been working overtime to get these issues solved. I'll post more information as I get it. This isn't an ideal situation for us, but if it means that all our books don't need to get deleted, I think we just have to deal with it for now. In the future, the developers say that we will be able to separate the projects again by creating new databases and using a fleet of page import bots to move pages around. Let's all hope that this happens sooner, rather then later. If people have any questions, let me know. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 22:40, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Wouldn't it be easier to just move Wikipedia into Wikibooks as just another book? Webaware talk 22:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

 * This makes no sense at all. Everything should be merged into Wikiversity, and we can shove all the other projects into the library :-). -- SB_Johnny | PA! 22:53, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

 * That's what I said, since our database has fewer corruption problems and trolling problems then WP has. The developers are trying to simultaneously migrate the servers over to Oracle instead of MySQL, and it's easier to do that if the biggest database doesn't move. Another problem that they are seeing in beta tests is that the Oracle database uses a proprietary Unicode text format, so all of our single quotes (') are going to be translated to double-quotes(") during the move. I have a bot that can fix it, but it's easier to fix a few thousand pages in Wikibooks then fix several millions in Wikipedia. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 22:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Clearly they've never worked on a real migration project before. First, pick a smaller, more stable target and move that, then tidy up the messy ones and bring them in later. WB first, WP as just another book, and WV can be like another namespace, similar to Help: – you know, guidance on how to use the books. Webaware talk 22:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * An April fools joke? ' whichever accounts have the most edits "win" '. So what happens to all those accounts that lose? Where is the traceability of editors. Will the 'losing' editors edits having no signature? ChessCreator (talk) 23:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Users who don't win the account will simply choose a new username. Eventually, the page histories will be relinked to the new username, but attribution will be a problem between the time of the merger, and whenever the maintenance script fix_chaos.php is a) done being written (it's very complicated for obvious reasons) and b) is done running (it's estimated to take about 200 hours to run, during which time the database will have to be locked) – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 23:04, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Maybe Wite-Out was better after all :-(. -- SB_Johnny | PA! 23:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Users who don't "win" will have their accounts initially renamed to something random, like "USER_12345" or something like that. I dont know exactly what algorithm they are using to pick the names. If you have a valid email address and US phone number registered in Special:Preferences, there won't be any problems because they can get in touch with you and negotiate out any problems. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 23:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I always imagined there was a few thousand telephone operators ready and waiting to ring every registered USA member with a valid email and telephone number! ChessCreator (talk) 23:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Agree: is this a 1st April joke ? --Erkan Yilmaz (talk) 23:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Gallery Colouring Problem
I have problems applying a background style rule within the Gallery tag. Although many of the font and text styles can be modified, the eg; style="background:dimgray" rule, will only colour the padding area, and not the topmost area, the off-white photo mask.

Does anybody know how this can be done for a gallery within Wikitext? In the event that it is not available, it might be an idea to suggest it for a possible modification.

Thanks in advance for any useful suggestions,

Armchair (talk) 16:57, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The topmost area is perhaps in the class or the template that you gallery is within, or higher up in the code you changing background style. Can you post a link to the code your are looking to edit? ChessCreator (talk) 09:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Hi,
 * The example that I am trying to extend is the last gallery code example in the drop-down box on this page.   Lots of luck!
 * Thanks, Armchair (talk) 18:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Mewa Film User's Guide
Would someone try to figure out what's going on with there? I can't make heads nor tails of it. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 16:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

 * What seems to be the problem? I may be blind (no coffee yet this morning), but I can't see any problem. Webaware talk 21:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I fixed itself. harrumph :P – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 21:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool, I like those problems the best :) Webaware talk 22:06, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

New book: SQL Exercises
Hi everyone! Just wanted to introduce myself: My name is Borja Sotomayor and I am currently working on adding a new wikibook titled "SQL Exercises". I have lectured on databases in the past, and I'm doing it again this year, so I thought a wikibook would be a good way of sharing my collection of SQL exercises not just with my students but with anyone who might find them useful (for avoidance of doubt, the exercises are all written by me and none are taken from existing books). This book could be used as a complementary textbook in a database course, or by anyone who wants to take a quick look at SQL code.

Right now, I'm just working on converting my exercises to wikitext (see this page for an example of what the exercises will look like). Once I'm done doing that, I hope to extend the book to include commentaries in some of the solutions, a quick guide to doing the exercises with SQLite, creating a Development page for other people to easily suggest exercises, etc.

borja (talk) 20:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Hello Borja, welcome to Wikibooks! Your book is looking great so far, and is a really great idea. The exercises also look excellent and very valuable for students. We already have two related books, SQL and MySQL, both of which are in need of help. Rather then having a book that is just devoted to exercises, maybe these pages could become the "Exercise Sections" of the SQL book? That way, you could keep the problems that students work on close to the written book material. The caveat is, of course, that the SQL book is in very bad condition right now, and would need to be cleaned up before you could add things to it constructively. Maybe I'll go through it and see if I can clean it up a little bit first. Anyway, I dont think this is a big deal, it's just a suggestion.
 * If you have any questions, or if you need any help, don't hesitate to ask. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 21:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I did actually take a look at the SQL and MySQL books, and came to the same conclusion (that they still need some work). Regardless, I personally favor having the SQL Exercises as a separate book. This is not for any territorial reasons; from a teaching standpoint, database instructors sometimes just want a collection of SQL exercises that are not tied to any particular book or DBMS so they can distribute them to their students as complementary material that they can use to practice on their own (although the exercises are currently tied to SQLite, I want to eventually go through the SQL code and make sure that it works out-of-the-box on most major DBMSs). This is not to say that the exercise book and an SQL wikibook would be completely separate entities. I'm all for cross-referencing between the two books (e.g., "This exercise depends on FULL RIGHT JOINs, which are explained in ((link to pertinent section in SQL book))"). borja (talk) 21:20, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

 * That's fine too! New authors don't always know all the possibilities and options available, so I try to point them out. However, your right that having an exercises book separate from narrative book is valuable, similar to a lab manual for a course that already has a textbook. If you need any help, let me know. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 12:50, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Logo for Wikibooks and Wikijunior
Can I comment on here, or can the comments be copied over elsewhere.
 * Wikibooks, my Top5 in order s, d, 5, 6 and x. Definitely not b as it's two legs upside down!
 * Wikijunior my Top5 in order m, f, g, b and l. The top two, m and f are well clear here, more of less say that anything other then those two would be a poor choice. ChessCreator (talk) 23:08, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

 * If you want your comments to be noticed, you'll need to make them on Meta. You can do so without creating a login, however. Webaware talk 23:24, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I'm confused because it says 'Discussion on the logo votes', yet it seems a discussion not a vote. Will consider commenting on wikimedia tomorrow. ChessCreator (talk) 23:51, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

the Gospel of John
); I have been adding to the Gospel of John at wikibooks, but when I reached the end chapters 18-21 no option to edit is included. Why are those last chapters closed. Is there a way to edit them? Robertroberg (talk) 19:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)Robert Roberg

I'm not sure I entered this in the correct place, but couldn't find any other place for posting.

 * G'day, they all look OK to me. Can you be a little more specific please? There is an "edit this page" link at the top of each page when I look at them. Webaware talk 23:20, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

 * thank you I didn't see it at the top of the page but do now. R.R.

Category pages
Is it possible to show number of a categories pages? In the category Category:Chess stub there is 70 pages which you can see by clicking into the category, but I'd like something like which would display the total (currently 70). ChessCreator (talk) 21:13, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * To my knowledge there is no such magic word; sorry. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 19:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Found some other Magic words and Help:Magic_words
 * has admins and  users whom in total have made  edits on  pages. :) ChessCreator (talk) 23:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Redirects occupying the main namespace
Books like Scheveningen_variation and Sicilian_Dragon have recently been created. They serve only as redirects to pages within the Chess Opening Theory book. Is this allowed? Doesn't having lots of 'empty' books on Wikibooks artifically push up our tally of the number of books we have? Doesn't this make the main namespace look messier? --ЗAНИA talk 20:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I think such redirects are generally frowned on. Wikibooks does not encourage disambiguous pages or unnecessary redirects. Yes I think it makes the main namespace look messier. Since they are intended to be part of a book, at the very lest they should be called Chess Opening Theory/Scheveningen variation and Chess Opening Theory/Sicilian Dragon. --dark lama  20:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I think that would be a good proposal Darklama. I also noticed that these redirects have an influence on the 'random book' link making the chess book appear more frequently than other books. --ЗAНИA [[Image:Flag_of_Italy.svg|15px]]talk 21:04, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I recently created those redirects for ease of use and ease of remembering as well as ease of finding for anyone that might be searching for the term of simply entering it and hitting go. They could change as Darklama suggested although that makes it messy for me and every editor who wants to use the term because you can no longer use Scheveningen variation and instead use Scheveningen variation.
 * I read on wikipedia that redirects are not a resource issue and indeed there are many on wikipedia in the mainspace, deliberately so I think so that anyone can easily find things, sorry if the case is not the same on wikibooks. Was not aware.
 * How does one see the 'main namespace' that is talked about? ChessCreator (talk) 21:22, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * On Wikipedia all articles are part of a single work, which is not the case with Wikibooks. There are many books in which any given work is suppose to belong to only one. On Wikibooks we have a Subject namespace to make finding books easier. We also alphabetize books and make use of the category system differently in order to make finding books easier. You may wish to read Wikibooks for Wikipedians if you haven't already. --dark lama  21:36, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I see. Sadly this has now created me many hours extra work to correct this, so could be some time days until it's all cleaned up.
 * How does one see the 'main namespace'? ChessCreator (talk) 22:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I don't see a problem with "stealing" a redirect for your book, especially if it is unlikely that we will have a book by that name. If you are looking for shorter links, you might want to consider using something like . The "../" makes the link relative to the parent page. Likewise, if you are deep in the book, you could use "../../../" and so on to get back to the root page. The slash at the end makes all the formatting and slashes and stuff in the link disappear, so you are just left with a link that says "Scheveningen variation". Try it! --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 22:14, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I had thought of that before and the ../../ and resulting potential (human) errors that go with it is why I went to straight using the mainspace redirects. You can see it might be quite error prone when the 'Scheveningen variation' for example as used on this page here will become ../../../../../../../../../Scheveningen variation/ (I think!) ChessCreator (talk) 22:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Okay, new idea (I have millions of them, although the quality decreases as time goes on). Create a new "book" at OTIC. Then, that "book" can be used to create redirects for you. So you could make the page at OTIC/SV point to the page at Chess Opening Theory/Scheveningen variation. Several other books do things similar to this. For instance, one of my books Digital Signal Processing, uses pages that start with DSP as redirects. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 22:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I like that idea, because at some point the book Chess Opening Theory might be given a new name. ChessCreator (talk) 22:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

 * The "main namespace" is just a reference to the fact its the main one used for content. Like on Wikipedia all articles that make up the encyclopedia are in the main namespace. Wikipedians sometimes refers to that namespace as the article namespace. Here I suppose you could also call it the "book namespace". If you want to see all pages that are in the main/book namespace you can try Special:Allpages/. --dark lama  22:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you Darklama. I wanted to see the 'mainspace' because the original poster said the redirects 'make the main namespace look messier'. Not having ever seen the main space was interested to know what I made look messy. Having seen the Special:AllPages/ I'm not entirely convinced it now looks messier, but I will do my bit to clean it up! ChessCreator (talk) 22:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Actually the original poster doesn't really know what he's talking about :) --ЗAНИA [[Image:Flag_of_Italy.svg|15px]]talk 22:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * More then me, I'm the one creating this mess! ;) ChessCreator (talk) 22:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

links to other sites?
Hello, I'm very new to WikiBooks, though I have a fair amount of experience at Wikipedia. Eventually I would like to expand the annotated texts here, because there are certain articles that I don't think would fit in well at Wikipedia due to their probable length, such as a detailed summary of Dante's Divine Comedy.

I have two questions:

1. Is it acceptable to provide links to sites like Wikisource?

2. If so, how would I do that?

Thanks for your help. --Kyok o 17:26, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Kyoko. The answer to your first question is "Yes".  For the second, you use a short cut to do it: pagename . --Jomegat (talk) 19:26, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I think I'll probably split my work between The Divine Comedy and another long epic I've read, The Faerie Queene. I've just started a page for it here. Please feel free to offer suggestions. Thanks again. --Kyok o  19:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

ControlTheoryPro.com
I'm a new user who works pointing controls on satellites. Controls and artificial intelligence are my geek hobbies. The Controls wikibook on this site is pretty good for theory but I still find myself looking sites with a much broad and expansive list of topics so I've create a wiki on controls at wikis.ControlTheoryPro.com. I work full time and site is very new. So I'm cherry picking the easy stuff like quick pages on MATLAB commands for my site content as well as updates to MATLAB Programming wikibook. As the site matures and I get some help from other authors I'll dive more deeply into examples and finally theory (since a lot of the theory articles would duplicate what's already in the Controls wikibook).

That said, if someone has a passion for controls and wants to contribute I would appreciate any help I can get. Whether that help is writting theory articles or examples or MATLAB. Any help is greatly appreciated.

ControlTheoryPro.com also has a forum. There are controls groups out there and they aren't bad. But they seem to suffer from a lot of spam postings and what seems to be a dwindling of interest. I use anti-spam tools to keep the spam off. I'll see how well they work.

Spradlig (talk) 02:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I've written much of the Control Systems book (thank you for the kind complements!), so I'm clearly interested in the subject. However, I have my hands full doing work on many books here, and don't have the time to join another project. However, your project and ours could compliment each other nicely. Assuming your site is released under a compatible license (GFDL) content can be shared back and forth freely. If the licenses aren't compatible, we can at least post links to relevant content. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 02:53, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I need to dive into the license agreements more closely. However, I don't intend to claim any copyright on anything that is posted to the site.  I would like to eventually find a way to make a living from the site but the content I'm working on now would always be freely available on the site.  I intend for the wiki and forum content on ControlTheoryPro.com to be free, always, with no copyrights but I do think that it is unethical to copy work/articles without proper referencing and credit.  There are probably a page or two I've copied from here to my site with the intention of rewriting that page.  All of these pages should have dewikify tags on them stating that the page was copied and is temporary.  I'm not sure how this lines up with the GFDL but I'm fairly confident that I can live with what's in most of the public domain licenses I've scanned so far.  Once I've decided that something like the GFDL is for me then I'll post it in my Copyright article and disclaimers and ...  (Spradlig (talk))

 * I've read the GFDL as it is on the wikibooks site. I agree to it and I am beginning to update my site policies to reflect that.  (Spradlig (talk))

Template:Bigwelcome
This is a potential replacement for our current welcome template, which I find is sparse. This one is based off the Commons welcome template, and I tried to make sure the most frequent queries I get on my talk page are mentioned, since our current system is obviously not addressing certain issues that it should be. Please feel free to comment on the talk page. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 00:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

 * The current template was basically an attempt to make something that was "short and sweet", a backlash against the huge and rambling previous template. I'm really of the philosophy that people aren't going to read too much, and it's not worthwhile to put tons and tons of information on a users talk page if they aren't going to read it all. Plus, much of the information that we put there isn't going to apply to all readers, and we don't want to drown people under piles of stuff they won't need.
 * That said, I do like this approach if we absolutely need to be more verbose. Keeping sections labeled and color coded can help to keep reader's attention focused on the sections they actually need. If we do decide to go with this kind of template, I think I would like to tweak some of the information that's there. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 01:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, the previous version of was too large, and mostly unhelpful. But I keep seeing the same queries over and over again on my talk page, other admins' talk pages, in the reading room, and in IRC, so clearly these are things which are worthy of inclusion. They're not being addressed adequately, and the welcome message is one place to fix that. Next on my list will be the FAQs and Help:Contents.  – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 01:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I can agree with you about that much, there are a lot of common questions that don't get answered satisfactorily. I'm not entirely sure I agree that the welcome template is the best place to do this, but then again I won't disagree with it either. I personally say we work on the FAQs first, and then take the most pertinent questions from those and put them into the welcome template. Of course, a big link to "FAQS OVER HERE!" with all the answers might be good too. It's just a matter of structuring things so that readers actually click the link, instead of glazing over it. If you want to overhaul the welcome template, i certainly won't stop you. Like i said, I might want to tweak it a little bit, but that's a small issue. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 02:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * An idea, may not be practical but thought I'd pass it on.
 * Use a simple for new signup, first day or so.
 * Then when some criteria is met, maybe 50 edits or 10 days have ellapsed, then
 * Use a which would be a more in depth template.
 * ChessCreator (talk) 11:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, that sounds like not a bad idea. An initial welcome to entice users to stay, and then simply replace it with a more informative message if they decide to hang around. With that in mind, I think I'll start tweaking the language used. Comments on the talk page will be most welcome, especially from new users. Those of us who have been around for a while have out ideas of what's needed there, but tailoring it to fit the needs of new users requires feedback from them. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 19:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Nice feedback
http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AOpening_theory_in_chess&diff=1160806&oldid=1150357 http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Opening_theory_in_chess&diff=prev&oldid=1160807

"I would just like to say that I am extremely grateful for these pages. I can't afford any chess books (I don't get allowance or get paid for any chores by my parents) so the only resource I have is the internet through the library. I don't know how many people have thanked you all for taking the trouble to post this information up, but I'd like to just be another person to tell you that I've been reading all of this! I just hope that some wiki mod doesn't show up and delete the pages saying it's too much information, because I've seen articles cut down a lot because of it. Anyway, you guys can just delete this after a bit, but I just wanted to give a thank you because this is the best!"

Above is feedback left on Talk:Opening_theory_in_chess ChessCreator (talk) 14:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Character creation textbook
Today I found a wikibook called Character creation. It seems to be abandoned. Should we work on fixing it up? Compare its coverage of character development with Writing Adolescent Fiction. There also seems to be an awful lot of stuff about "toughness" in the clothing section. Cilantrohead (talk) 06:36, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

 * This book is a weird one, but if it hasn't been deleted yet it's probably worthy of being improved. If you have any experience or knowledge in this area, I would definitely go for it. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 13:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Perhaps it ought to be merged with Writing Adolescent Fiction or some general fiction writing book, since part of writing a book on fiction is creating characters. --dark lama  13:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * We have a general book on fiction at Creative Writing. Perhaps all the useful content can be merged into there? That leads to the question: what content is useful? The part about jackets with no shirt underneath adding toughness, or the part about the difference between how Irish-Americans and Mexican-Americans are treated? Cilantrohead (talk) 05:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Could begin with just saying all of it is useful and go from there, incorporating the existing info, reflecting a more general path to character development. Provide suggestions/tips like thinking about what ancestry a writer wants to use for there character and the best way to reflect that in there clothing, attitudes, etc., which can be better achieved by reading up on the history of the people who the character is suppose to be most like, such as Irish-Americans or Mexican-Americans and understanding there culture, beliefs, etc. Using the existing info in a more example-only context. --dark lama  15:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

R Programming/Tutorial
I'd appreciate advice on how to propose and possibly go about moving R Programming/Tutorial to How to use R. -- Jtneill - Talk 02:26, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

 * As for the move, Wikiversity has an import tool that you can use to copy the text from Wikibooks to Wikiversity, and preserve the entire edit history in the process. This is important for licensing issues. I wouldn't recommend, nor support, deleting the page from here once it has been moved. It does, after all, form a suitable basis for a book on the subject. I would ask on Wikiversity, since I'm not 100% clear on their import procedures. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 02:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the suggestions. I've now also posted a message about this to v:Wikiversity:Colloquium -- Jtneill - Talk 04:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

 * FYI, a wikiversity custodian has done an import to How to use R/Tutorials, and I'll adapt from there. Thanks for your help, Whiteknight. -- Jtneill - Talk 12:18, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

How changing the name of an article?
I would like to rename ‘Communication Theory/Sociological Systems’ to ‘Communication Theory and Social Systems’ as the former includes a mistake. It could also be named ‘… Sociological Systems Theory’ since the respective sociological approach offers a Theory in the framework of communication theory) but ‚Social Systems’ – that’s what the theories and this article are about. It is not about systems that are merely sociological or depending on sociological research (that would be a misunderstanding of the theories involved), it is about systems in the real world (such as politics, law, art, organisations, etc.). Hence, ‚… Social Systems’ would currently be appropriate (as well as short and sweet). Bertzbach (talk) 17:54, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

 * What mistake does the current name include? I'm not understanding what you believe is wrong with the current name. Perhaps you are misinterpreting the page name? Communication Theory is a name of a book, in which Sociological Systems is a chapter of that book. You can read Wikibooks' naming policy to learn about it the convention used here. Basically this means that the Sociological Systems chapter is intended to focus on Sociological Systems as it apples to Communication Theory. Another book might explain Sociological Systems from a different perspective, or a book could exist that focuses on just Sociological Systems with more depth and all the different uses of Sociological Systems. --dark lama  18:37, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Thank you for your help directing me to the book name page. On that page, I was able to change the name and to indicate the technical reason for that change (the chapter neither intends nor focuses on 'sociological systems' but on 'social systems'). Nevertheless, me being new in the world of Wikibooks, I still don't know how to change the chapter name on the chapter page. By looking at the history of that page, I can see that chapter names were "moved" twice in November 2005.  I don't know how to do that.  Could you please give further advice or please take care of that matter? Bertzbach (talk) 00:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

 * There is a link at the top of the page near the "edit this page" link called "move", however it may take a few days before you can start moving pages, since your new. I've gone ahead and renamed it, and cleaned it up a little bit while I was at it. --dark lama  01:15, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

New User
Hi all, My name is Kaustubh and I am from India. I am currently working on mr:wikibooks and I am here to get acquainted with en:wikibooks.

Regards, --Kausshas3 (talk) 06:41, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Am an indian. I want 2 knw japanese well. I knw 12 indian languages other than english, bangla, urdu. If i send smethng n eng means will wiki gives that n japanese through english? Pls reply me. What should i do fr tht?

 * There is no automatic translation between languages, however if you want to write something in Japanese there is a Japanese wikibooks who I'm sure would be happy to accept your contributions. There is also one in Urdu (I think thats Urdu anyways, I do not understand the language at all so I apologize if I am mistaken), I'm not sure about Bengala but if you go to the main page there is a list of the wikibooks language on the left side if you scroll down. Good luck to you! Mattb112885 (talk to me) 14:27, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Starting a new WikiBook
I want to start a new WikiBook Punjabi. The purpose of the book is to help readers learn Punjabi, an Indian language. I want this in Languages/Asian category. I started a module for the book but it is threatening that it will be automatically considered a candidate for fast delete.

Can I have some get some help?

jaspal 18:01, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Hello Jaspal, welcome to Wikibooks. What is the title of your book? I'll take a look at it and help to ensure it won't get deleted. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 18:30, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Whiteknight. The title of the book is Punjabi. But I gues the issue got sorted out. But pl do confirm. I shall be grateful. I am new and shall greatly value any more suggestions.

jaspal 07:55, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I have added a template to your book, . Please keep this template on the book for at least 1 week, and preferrably longer. This template helps people to find and monitor new books, and demonstrates that your page is a book and not an article (articles get deleted). If you have any other questions, please let me know. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 14:26, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Reflist
Can someone explain the error that occurs with
 * Cite error: Invalid
 * You could wrap that up in a template for ease of use, but ultimately that's how you'll need to do it. Webaware talk 03:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Our wikitable class was once that subtle grey color. I don't know when or why it changed. I use a custom skin, so I didn't see it change. Given the option between the two, I would probably prefer the grey version instead of the current one. However, it would be trivial to create a second class, "greytable" or something like that, that uses the old colorscheme. If we created this second class, would that be good for your project? --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 13:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Confirming email
I'm new and just set up the account last week. Now I'm trying to learn how to use this and in going through 'my preferences' I saw that my email hasn't been authenticated yet. I clicked on 'Confirm your email address', it told the code may have expired so I sent another Confirmation email and clicked on it within a few minutes and get the error "Invalid confirmation code. The code may have expired."

Retrieved from "http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:ConfirmEmail"

What am I doing wrong or what do I need to do?

Jplbookreviews (talk) 16:26, 21 April 2008 (UTC)Lee @ Joplin Public Library

 * That's a strange error, and I have to admit that I've never seen it before. My suggestion to you is to change your email address and try to confirm that way. Or, change it and then change it back to try and "reset" the values stored in the software.
 * When you get the confirmation email, make sure you copy+paste the entire URL into the browser. Sometimes when you click on a long link in an email, URLs can be separated up and not loaded correctly. Copy+paste the whole URL into the browser, and double check to ensure it doesnt have any spaces or anything in it. Let me know if that works. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 13:07, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This is apparently a bug introduced by SUL. I imagine it will be fixed quickly. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 15:09, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Feature Requests Chatroom
we were talking with some developers on IRC yesterday, working on some of our "wishlist" development items that we had discussed in the past. It came to light that while there are many things that we Wikibookians seem to want, we don't really have a single, codified vision for what kinds of features we want to see in the software around here. Without a unified vision, it's difficult to make decisions in the short-term because we don't know if decisions we make now will be helpful in pursuing our long-term goals.

To that end, we've created a chatroom at Reading room/Feature requests. What we want to do is, as a community, lay out a comprehensive list of all the features that we do want in the software here, and the relative importance of each. Ideally, we can start approaching some of the big items incrementally, and satisfy some of the smaller items along the way. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 00:14, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

CPP highlighter has a bug
User:Ikarsik reported a problem with the CPP highlighter... in C++ Comments using the Wiki highlighter I have gone around it by using // This comment will also comment the following line \ std::cout << "This line will not print" << std::endl;

Probably we should report this problem. Any one knows where or can do it for us ? Txs --Panic (talk) 23:01, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This involves Extension:SyntaxHighlight GeSHi, so I think the bug lies with GeSHi, not with the extension. You might be best making a bug report in bugzilla and with GeSHi . – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 23:17, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I have reported the bug to GeSHi at sourceforge, after checking up the BUG list present on the source code (that doesn't mention this case), will post any useful reply here if any. --Panic (talk) 23:50, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I'm the GeSHi maintainer. This bug is a known limitation of the stable branch. The developement branch already handles this correct, but is not yet an option for productivity use. For more detail on the problem: The stable releases only check for // and \n rather thean a line ending without preceeding \, thus one would have to introduce this behaviour first. But since this is already handled in the developement branch I will not reimplement it for the current stable branch. --17:17, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

wikibook functionality with plain mediawiki
Hi, I'm at a site that has mediawiki installed and I have a book I'd like to put on that wiki. I don't have any special privileges and I'd like to structure my wiki entries like books are here on wikibooks (i.e hierarchically w/chapters etc).

I suppose it's impossible for me to do that, but I wonder if others have tried using the normal mediawiki functions like categories and navigation tools/templates to get something like a book structure.

I'm just learning this stuff and thought I'd ask here since I'm sure some of you must have given this a lot of thought! Thanks --A jtim (talk) 19:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi there! Wikibooks is using almost vanilla MediaWiki - we have a few extensions installed, but they're largely the same one every other project has. You shouldn't need anything special to get a book structure... in fact, there isn't any. If you want to use subpages, you need to have the software configured to do that. But even without subpages in the mainspace enabled, you can still have a good book structure. If you see the section above, it points to a new discussion area where we're trying to figure out what changes to make to the software in order to handle books better (after all, the MediaWiki software was written for Wikipedia originally). – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 20:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Hi Mike.lifeguard! thanks for the info--we do have subpages enabled so maybe I'm in business after all. I'll explore more and try some experiments. Thanks again for the quick response. Wikibooks is cool! --A jtim (talk) 13:30, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Mathematics Shelf Reorganising
I have posted this message on the Math discussion page but I don't know how much it is frequented, and so I'm asking here.

I feel that some books (Algebraic Geometry,Crystallography,Topology,Combinatorial Topology and Differential Geometry) that are currently in the geometry shelf under 'basic math' definitely belong to higher mathematics. Should I move them?

SPat (talk) 03:57, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with you, but perhaps wait & see if the math-y people agree too. Pretty much anything seems like advanced math to me :D – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 19:32, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Ok, I'll wait. I've one more question, the first half of the book Topology, titled Point-Set Topology is quite developed whereas the second half titled Algebraic Topology is sparse. Does it make sense to split the book? SPat (talk) 01:32, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Two points: First, we're slowly phasing out the bookshelves, so eventually we won't be using them at all. Changes that you make to the bookshelves are only short-lived, and therefore unimportant. You should feel free to change them as you see fit.
 * What we are slowly moving towards are the Subject pages, which are similar to bookshelves but more general and automatically-updated. See, for instance, Subject:Mathematics. A better long-term solution is to categorize books properly, and create new subject pages for the different subsets of mathematics. If you could give me a good comprehensive plan about how to organize all our existing books, I could handle the implementation for you.
 * As for the Topology book: If you think it would be better to split it into two books, that should be fine too. We can create a Subject:Topology to link to the new books. Let me know what all you want to do, and I can help you. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 15:06, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

GFDL
Ok. There are some complications with GFDL.

Pursuant to the Text of the GNU Free Documentation License:

 * "The Document may include Warranty Disclaimers next to the notice which states that this License applies to the Document. These Warranty Disclaimers are considered to be included by reference in this License ..."

and reusers are obliged to

 * "Preserve any Warranty Disclaimers"

Use of the disclaimer is problematic because it adds an additional restriction which we are obligated to preserve per GFDL license itself.

Template:GFDL on en.wikibooks have underwent several changes.

Notable changes from a legal standpoint are:

 * 04:42, 16 July 2004 version by Guanaco. Links to a " general disclaimer " which links to the article on English wikipedia about disclaimers in general. There is still an indirect link to the general English wikipedia license on the linked page.
 * By 04:51, 16 July 2004 Guanaco corrected the little error by changing the disclaimer link to general disclaimer.
 * On 09:44, 26 May 2005 a User142 has altered the license template copying the one from English wikipedia. This page linked to the article on disclaimers in general. There is still an indirect link to the general English wikipedia license on the linked page.
 * On 01:14, 2 January 2006 Kernigh unintentionally removed the disclaimer by copying the commons template.
 * No disclaimer had been introduced since.

So...
 * all uses of the license from 04:42 to 04:51, 16 July 2004 should use Template:GFDL with English wikipedia's disclaimer or the wikipedia article on disclaimers in general. (I seriously doubt anything got uploaded in that 9 minutes)
 * all uses of the license from 04:51, 16 July 2004 to 09:44, 26 May 2005 should use Template:GFDL with English wikibooks' disclaimer.
 * all uses of the license from 09:44, 26 May 2005 to 01:14, 2 January 2006 should use Template:GFDL with English wikipedia's disclaimer or the wikipedia article on disclaimers in general.

The issue with English wikipedia is complicated and I do not know how it would go in a court. Never the less all uses of the GFDL template between 04:42, 16 July 2004 to 01:14, 2 January 2006 have had some sort of a disclaimer and should be retagged accordingly.

-- Cat chi? 21:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

 * This is all well and good, and I understand the legal issues here. However, unless you can suggest a way to find the times that all images were tagged with automatically, there is no reasonable way that we can fix this issue. Further, I would suggest that all pages have always been linked to our General disclaimer, because a link to that exists in site footer. Whether the disclaimer link is preserved in the text of the GFDL declaration, or whether it is linked at the bottom of every content page should be irrelevant. The GFDL says only that we must preserve all disclaimers, not that we must preserve the way in which those disclaimers are referenced. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 15:00, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

=ADENO CA of the stoamch
I would like to seek your assistance because my mother was diagnose with adeno CA of the stomach. But the major complain of the patient is jaundice and ascites with on and off abdominal pain. All diagnostic exam are normal except for the blood that was found very high in CA 125 and biopsy which is positive for ADENO CA.Pls give me an enlightenment regarding this matter. we just went home back to province because the doctors cannot answer us at the same time cannot treat us beacuse of the query we gave.
 * This isn't the right place to ask these kinds of questions. I suggest you try another website like WebMD.com, or contact another expert. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 14:53, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Submit a book and an article
Dear Wikipedia,

How can I submit a book and an article. I surfed your site but had a hard time locating the pages where I can submit articles and books.

Thanks for your help, Miriam
 * Wikipedia articles belong at Wikipedia. If you'd like to start a book, there's no need for approval or anything - just get started! You'll want to make sure it's within our project scope and follows the naming policy. For help starting your first book, you might want to see Using Wikibooks. Finally, please sign your posts to discussion pages with four tildes ( ~ ) to make things easy to follow. Good luck! – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 00:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Reviving a Dead Book
I'm reviving FHSST Biology, and I just wanted to let everyone know. I'd be very grateful for help. General Biology has some good parts, but it is aimed at an older audience (as I can see from the notes). I'm hoping some of you guys will add to the book.

Sincerely,

Wesley Gray (talk) 03:34, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

 * We usually call it "adopting" as opposed to "reviving". However you refer to it, choosing to fix up an old and abandoned book is always appreciated! The "FHSST" stood for "Free High School Science Texts", and I think (but can't remember the details) that these books were affiliated with some kind of external organization. If you would like to rename this book to something else, like "Introduction to Biology", or "High School Biology", or "Biology for Beginners", or whatever, feel free to do it. If you want to keep the name as it is, that's fine too. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 15:12, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Updating Policy, Guidelines, Help Pages, etc
I've created a new template, that we can use to tag pages which are out of date or are not accurate anymore. This can, like all other message templates, be used on books. However, It can (and should) also be used to mark metapages like those found in the Wikibooks: and Help: namespaces, templates (templates which need an aesthetic overhaul, or out of date template documentation), or Category: pages. Hell, we could even throw it on old images that were drawn in mspaint and need to be redone using a better editor. If we have a good comprehensive list of pages that are known to need updating, we can make a concerted effort to fix them.

If you see pages that are not accurate anymore or that need to be updated, please tag them with. This will put pages into Category:Pages needing update, and we can go through that list like any other normal maintenance task. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 21:01, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this - I've been trying to get some idea of where work on policy/guideline/useful pages is needed; this will make things easier. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 21:55, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

can i post a write up?


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Cookbook:Sandwich Layer-Cake

Smörgåstårta or sandwich cake is a typical Swedish party dish, not to be confused with Smörgåsbord. The sandwich cake is a very rich sandwich with so much filling it resembles a cake. It is excellent for receptions and parties since it is served cold and can be prepared in advance. It is also possible to have great variation in the fillings to accompany most peoples taste. The dish can be served as a cake or in smaller piece as appetizers.

This recipe is for shrimp and egg filling. This is only one of many variants, and other variants are listed at the end.

Ingredients

 * 3–4 eggs
 * 1 kg (~2.25 lbs) shrimp with shells on
 * 4.5 dl (450 ml / 1 pint) cottage cheese
 * 4 dl (400 ml) mayonnaise
 * 1 dl (100 ml) sour cream
 * 2 loaves white sandwich bread
 * Salt
 * Black pepper
 * Sprigs of dill or slices of lemon or lime for garnish
 * Chopped dill or parsley for garnish

Procedure

 * 1) Boil the eggs until hard, and peel the shrimp.
 * 2) Set aside some shrimp (about ⅓) for garnishing. Chop the remaining shrimp, which will be used for filling.
 * 3) Mix 1 dl mayonnaise with 1 dl sour cream in a cup or bowl, place in the refrigerator.
 * 4) Mix the remaining mayonnaise with the cottage cheese in another bowl together with the chopped shrimp; this is the filling.
 * 5) Cut the bread lengthwise to make eight 1 cm thick slices. Discard the top and bottom slice.
 * 6) Place two slices next to each other, preferably on a cutting board. Spread one third of the filling on top of the bread slices. Add two more bread slices on top. Spread half of the remaining filling and repeat for the final layer. The cake should now have four layers of bread with three layers of filling between them.
 * 7) If necessary even out the edges of the cake with a sharp knife.
 * 8) Take the mayonnaise/sour cream mix out of the refrigerator and spread it thinly and evenly on the sides of and on top of the cake.
 * 9) Cover the sides of the cake with chopped parsley or dill. Garnish with shrimp, sliced eggs, and dill sprigs or lemon slices.

Notes, tips, and variations

 * The recipe above describes a four layer cake with only one type of filling. It is possible to use different fillings in different layers of the cake. However, make sure that the tastes of the fillings "fit" together. It is also possible to do a three layer cake.
 * Instead of serving the sandwich cake in cake form it is possible to cut it into pieces before serving. This makes an excellent appetizer or it can be more convenient way to serve the cake since guests do not have to cut it.
 * Since the sandwich cake can be quite heavy it is usually served with a mixed salad. Tortilla chips, various kinds of nuts, or almonds (roasted or fresh) can also be served on the side.
 * When preparing the sandwich cake in "appetizer style" do not cut the bread lengthwise, instead cut normal slices. It is also possible to use pre-sliced bread. Only use two layers for the appetizers and use a tooth-pick to hold it together.

Additional Fillings
The basic filling consists of about 50/50 mayonnaise and cottage cheese. The proportions can be varied by taste. For a low fat version use more cottage cheese and/or substitute the mayonnaise for low-fat (do not use non-fat) mayonnaise. Different flavorings can be added to the basic filling, some examples follow.

 * Chopped canned tuna
 * Chopped pâté and pickled cucumber
 * Smoked ham and paprika
 * Eggs, pickled cucumber, and curry

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

title: Cookbook:Sandwich Layer-Cake


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Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...e5/2. Bc4/2...Bc5/3. Qh5

= Bishop's Opening Classical Defence =

Theory table
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 * 1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Bc5 3. Qh5


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Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...e5/2. Bc4/2...Bc5/3. Nf3

= Bishop's Opening Classical Defence =

3. Nf3
White position is quite sharp, an attack on the e5 pawn, a possible break on d4 would gain a tempo on the Black Bishop. Black has one one move to try for equality, that's 3...Nc6 and transpose into the Giuoco Piano.

Theory table
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 * 1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Bc5 3.Nf3


text: User talk:70.81.134.7

title: User talk:70.81.134.7


text: User talk:24.207.61.37

title: User talk:24.207.61.37


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Erlang Programming/Using ets

=ETS local data storage=

ETS is the Erlang table storage system, which provides hash-based data storage and access functions. These functions run in constant time. ETS data is stored in a process as long as it is running.

Here is an example of how to use some simple functions in ETS. Notice that the table is not square because goofy has no last name.

Sample program: test_ets.erl
-module(test_ets). -compile(export_all). start -> start( mouse ). start( Animal ) -> Kingdom = ets:new( 'magic', [] ), % note: table is not square populate( Kingdom, [{micky,mouse}, {mini,mouse}, {goofy}] ), Member = ets:member( Kingdom, micky ), io:format( " member ~w ~n ", [ Member ] ), %% show_next_key( Kingdom, micky ), %% Not work as expected in OTP 19.2 %% Do a minor change FirstKey = ets:first(Kingdom), show_next_key(Kingdom, FirstKey), find_animal( Kingdom, Animal ). show_next_key( _Kingdom, '$end_of_table' ) -> done; show_next_key( Kingdom, Key) -> Next = ets:next( Kingdom, Key ), io:format( " next ~w ~n ", [ Next ] ), show_next_key( Kingdom, Next ). populate( _Kingdom, [] ) -> {done,start}; populate( Kingdom, [H | T] ) -> ets:insert( Kingdom, H ), populate( Kingdom, T ). find_animal( Kingdom, Animal ) -> ets:match( Kingdom, { '$1', Animal } ). % ============== % sample output % ============== % 53> test_ets:start. % member true % next mini % next goofy % next '$end_of_table' % mini],[micky

title: Erlang Programming/Using ets


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User:Darkkey

Darkkey
My real name is Daniel Victor. I'm from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. I am the Master Guide Instructor of the Sunway Pathfinder Club based in Sungai Way Indian Church. I've been Pathfindering from the age of 8. Over the time I've been up and down in the Pathfinder ministry but by God's grace I'm who I am now.

I almost gone on a way too far from God in which it was utterly impossible to make a U turn but as I said earlier, God grace is ever enduring. He gave me a second chance and the One thing that made me come back was something I learned when I was little, thats is Pathfindering. This was what hooked up me to make a come back. Again by God's grace I'm now completely involved in church activities and guiding and encouraging youths to join Pathfinder. There is much to learn and enjoy. Currently, I also hold the responsibility as a church clerk in Sungai Way Indian Church.

Apart from Pathfindering and church ministry, I'm working as Procurement Staff in Motorola Electronics. I studied Computer Science as IT & computers has always been my passion. Although somehow, its not related to my job scope but I never stopped updating myself on the latest technology updates.

I started on wikibooks by updating the Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book. I'm really glad that I could be part of this wonderful book which I belive would be the source of guidance for all the Pathfinders and their Instructors.

My Achievements

 * Achieved Honors:
 * Airplane Modelling
 * Amphibians
 * Backpacking
 * Basic Sewing
 * Birds
 * Camp Craft
 * Camping Skills I
 * Camping Skills II
 * cats
 * Christian Citizenship
 * Christian Story Telling
 * Computer
 * Computer Advanced
 * Communication
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 * Drawing & Painting
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 * Swimming Beginner
 * Temperance

 * Completed Awards
 * Pathfinder Leadership Award (PLA)
 * Master Guide

 * Accomplished Classes
 * Advanced Voyager
 * Advanced Explorer
 * Advanced Companion
 * Advanced Friend

My To-Do List

 * Honors I plan to work on:
 * Reptiles
 * Spiders
 * Camping Skills III
 * Bread Dough

 * Classes I plan to complete:
 * Advanced Pathfinder Staff Training
 * Advanced Ranger
 * Advanced Guide

 * Links:

 * Sunway Pathfinder Club Forum

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Erlang Programming/Database Programming

=Databases in Erlang=

Dictionary
Data can be stored in many ways in Erlang. Each process has a local dictionary that uses put and get. 2> put(hello,world). undefined 3> get(hello). world

ETS
Data can be stored with the ETS (Erlang table storage system) via the ETS library. It creates data at the process level. See Using_Ets.

Mnesia
Mnesia is a distributed database that lives in the local file system.

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Futurebasic/Language/Reference/tekey function

= TEKEY$ =

Function
(+) 	Appearance 		(+) 	Standard 			Console

Syntax
char$ = TEKEY$

Description
If there is an active edit field in the current window, and you have designated an edit-event handling routine using the ON EDIT statement, TEKEY$ returns a 1-character string indicating a key that the user pressed. You should check the value of TEKEY$ within your edit-event handling routine, each time that routine is called. When you use an edit-event handling routine, the user's keystrokes are not transmitted directly to the edit field. Based on the value returned by TEKEY$, your edit-event handling routine can decide what to do with the keypress; it can transmit it to the field unaltered, or transmit a different character, or perform some other action. Your routine can use the TEKEY$ statement to transmit the keypress (or some other character) to the edit field, if desired. TEKEY$ values that correspond to the backspace key, and the four arrow keys should generally be transmitted to the field unaltered. Note that any keypresses that can't alter the contents of the field nor move the insertion point are generally not reported to your edit-event handling routine. Keypresses that will not be reported include the following:

 * Arrow keys, if the insertion point is already as far as it can go in the indicated direction (use the DIALOG function (event types _efLeftArrow, _efRightArrow, _efUpArrow and _efDownArrow) to detect arrow keys in this situation);
 * Command-key equivalents for menu items;
 * Command-period.
 * The "Tab" key (use the DIALOG function (event type _efTab or _efShiftTab))The "Clear" key (use *DIALOG function (event type _efClear));
 * The "Return" key, if the field is one of the "NoCR" types (use the DIALOG function (event type _efReturn));


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Futurebasic/Language/Reference/text

= TEXT =

Statement
(+) 	Appearance 		(+) 	Standard 		(+) 	Console

Syntax
TEXT [font%][,[size%][,[face%][,copyMode%]]]

Description
This statement sets the text characteristics for the current output window or printer. It affects subsequent PRINT statements (in the current window or printer), subsequent LPRINT statements, and subsequently-created edit fields (in the current window). It does not change the appearance of any existing text, except in buttons created using the _useWFont type modifier (see the BUTTON statement). Each of the parameters is optional. If you omit a parameter, the corresponding characteristic won't be changed. The parameters are interpreted as follows: font% A number which identifies the font family. Certain common fonts have standard numbers which are identified by these constants: _newYork_venice_geneva _monaco_times_helvetica _courier_symbol The following constants are also available: _sysFont (System font; usually Chicago or Charcoal) _applFont (Default application font; usually Geneva) For other fonts, the best way to determine the font number is to pass the font's name to the GETFNUM Toolbox procedure, as here:   CALL GETFNUM(fontName$, font%) When you do this, the font's number is returned in the font% variable, which you can then pass to the TEXT statement. size% The font size, in points. This usually gives some indication of the height in pixels of the tallest character; however, you shouldn't rely on this. Use the USR FONTHEIGHT function to determine the pixel height of a line of text. * face% The text style. To set the face to "plain," set this parameter to zero; otherwise, you can set it to the sum of any of the following bitmask values: _boldBit%_outlineBit% _italicBit%_shadowBit% _ulineBit%_condenseBit% _extendBit% Example:   TEXT _geneva, 12, _boldBit% + _italicBit% copyMode% This determines how the text interacts with the existing background. The most commonly used values are _srcCopy (the entire character's rectangle replaces the background), and _srcOr (only the character's glyph replaces the background). Other transfer modes include: _srcXor_addOver _srcBic_subPin _notSrcCopy_transparent _notSrcOr_adMax _notSrcXor_subOver _notSrcBic_adMin _blend_grayishTextOr _addPin_ditherCopy(mask) See the "QuickDraw Text" chapter in Inside Macintosh: Text, and the chapters "QuickDraw Drawing" and "Color QuickDraw" in Inside Macintosh: Imaging with QuickDraw, for more information about text transfer modes. Note: Each screen window maintains its own text characteristics separately from the others. The TEXT statement affects only the characteristics in the current window. To change the characteristics of text in existing edit fields, use the EDIT TEXT statement. To change the color of subsequently printed text, use the COLOR or LONG COLOR statement.

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Futurebasic/Language/Reference/threadbegin

= THREADBEGIN =

Statement
(+) 	Appearance 		(+) 	Standard 		(+) 	Console

Syntax
THREADBEGIN FN name [, parameter& [, stackMin&]] === Revised === August, 2002 (Release 7)

Description
What exactly is a thread? It is a function that performs a task. The difference between a threaded function and any other function is that the threaded version runs in the background. Your program (and other running processes) advance without interruption as the threaded task is performed. There are many reasons for using threaded functions. One that is becoming popular relates to functions that access Internet connections. Since logging in and downloading often take a good bit of time, it makes sense to hand such a task to a threaded function and go on about your business. You might handle other tasks like complex calculations, lengthy sorts, or time-consuming file loads. When a threaded function is called, it executes without stopping until it is complete—just like any other function. But at some point inside of the function, you yield to other processes by calling THREADSTATUS. The THREADSTATUS statement allows other actions to take place and optionally sets a timed delay for the number of ticks that should elapse before your function regains control. The parameter passed to a thread may be any long integer required by your program. It is for your use. If a parameter is sent, you should accept it in the named local function. For instance, if a parameter were used in the example below, we would create the function with LOCAL FN myThread(param AS LONG) instead of just plain LOCAL FN myThread. If the stackMin parameter is omitted, FutureBASIC sets a minimum stack space of 131072 bytes (128K). You may experiment with larger or smaller values for your specific needs. Example: This simple example creates a thread that prints a string of text, piece by piece, in a FOR/NEXT loop. The THREADSTATUS call installs a callback time of 10 ticks which makes the text appear slowly. You can type into the edit field as the threaded text is placed on the screen. LOCAL FN myThread DIM t$,x, abort t$ = "Hello. I am a thread. " t$ += "I execute in the background." FOR X = 1 TO LEN(t$) PRINT @(1,1) LEFT$(t$,x); abort = THREADSTATUS(10)//call me in 10 ticks IF abort != 0 THEN EXIT FN  NEXT END FN WINDOW 1 TEXT _sysfont,12,0,0 PRINT@(1,3)"Type into the edit field" EDIT FIELD 1,"",(8,80)-(200,100) THREADBEGIN FN myThread DO HANDLEEVENTS UNTIL 0 ''' THE ABOVE SECTION IS EXTREMELY CONFUSING AND STILL NEEDS FIXING!!! '''


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User talk:Feilsky

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User:Whiteknight/RenameRequest

Rename Request
Hello,. I've received your rename request. Here is what I need from you:

Once you have satisfied these requirements, send me a message and I can rename you. If you have any questions, or if you need any help, you can ask me on my user talk page, or you can ask the community at WB:CHAT or WB:AN.

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Creative Writing/Fiction technique/Deus Ex Machina

Deus ex Machina is a technique used primarily in drama but not limited to the stage; translated, it means: "God out of the Machine". A deus ex machina ending to a play or book is when the plot builds up so hopelessly and dramatically that it seems that it cannot be resolved by any means, only for a sudden improbably solution to appear.


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User:Darkkey/About the Author

Daniel Victor earned his International Diploma in Computer Science (IDCS) at Management & Science University previously known as KUTPM in 2003. He had worked in the computer industry previously for 2 years working as technical support for both hardware & software as well as software troubleshooting until he decided to venture onto the Finance path. For the past 3 years, he has been attached to Motorola Electronics as Procurement Staff under the Asia Procurement Transaction Centre, a sub wing under the Indirect Procurement Department of Motorola Inc.

Danny, as he is fondly called by his parents and friends, is actively involved in Seventh-day Adventist Peninsular Malaysia Mission (PEM) Pathfinder Ministry. He received the Pathfinder Leadership Award (PLA) last year in the 8th South-East Asia Union Pathfinder Camp. He serves as an Instructor for Master Guide class in the Sunway Pathfinder Club which is based in Sungai Way Indian Church where he also serves as the local church clerk. He is also the Administrator for the Sunway Pathfinder Club forum.

Being a bachelor, he spends most of his time on computers and as a die-hard outdoor personality, he likes to travel a lot and get involved in challenging activities.

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User talk:207.145.1.66

Talk:Main Page
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User talk:122.21.171.211

Welcome!
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We hope that you choose to become a Wikibookian and create an account. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have on my talk page. By the way, make sure to sign your posts and comments with four tildes (~~~~), which will let others know who left it.

 * Hello! And ようこそ to Wikibooks! Thanks a lot for your contribution on the Japanese Mini-tutorial. Hope you will keep an eye on this page (and other Japanese lessons). Since I am not a native speaker, I miss a lot and make mistakes here and there. Maybe, if you haven't done so already, you want to make an account? どうもありがとうございました. 　がんばって　下さい. 　真実 - Shinjitsu To my Talk page! 17:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

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text: Physics Textbook/Plane Mirrors

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Physics Textbook/Curved Mirrors

Reflection at curved surfaces
For studying such reflection, all we do is draaw normals at each point on the curved surface and apply i=r on each of them. The curved surfaces we'll study would be sphere cutouts. No parabolic/hyperbolic mirror.

Shed misconceptions

 * 1) Not every ray parallel to the principal axis is sent to focus after reflection. Geometrical optics formulae are valid only for paraxial rays (rays incident close to the pole; close is not a scientific term; exactly what range is close to the pole is dependent upon size of mirror, distance involved, etc).
 * 2) Not all rays are paraxial. The beam of ray (i) will be sent to focus, but (ii) will be sent to a point little away from the focus. We'll keep this in mind and developthese ideas little by little as we learn more of optics.
 * 3) Even objects which are of comparable size to the mirror can't be dealt with the formulae we derive.
 * 4) Formulae in geometrical optics are valid only for paraxial rays. Only the basic laws are universal.

What we have described above is exactly the reason why we use parabolic mirrors to focus parallel rays. Well, parabolic curves have the property of focusing each and every parallel ray of light to the axis on one point. Actually, a curve having this property is defined a parabolic curve [Ref. coordinate]

Checkpoint

 * 1) Focusing. A beam of paraxial rays parallel to the principal axis converge to a point on the axis after reflection from a concave mirror [real image] [draw diagram].
 * 2) When such rays reflection from a convex mirror, they diverge away. However, the one who sees these rays feels they're diverging from a point behind mirror [visual image] [draw diagram].

These points are focuses, and their distance from pole is focal length.. Now, it so happens that the focal length for convex/concave mirror comes out to be R/2.

Sign convention

 * 1) Direction of incident rays --> +ve x direction
 * 2) Principal axis --> x axis (-ve & +ve)
 * 3) Pole is the origin
 * 4) Height above principal axis, positive below principal axis, negative.

title: Physics Textbook/Curved Mirrors


text: Physics Textbook/Refraction of Light

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text: Physics Textbook/The Human Eye

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User:Melon247

Hey, me again. I'm from strategiwiki and wikipedia.

If you look on my user page on Wikipedia, you'll see why I wanted to discover this page.

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Wikibooks:Reading room/Proposals

__NEWSECTIONLINK__

Welcome to the Proposals reading room. On this page, Wikibookians are free to talk about suggestions for improving Wikibooks.

question: IP contributors IP address
Hi all, I am new here at Wikibooks (well sort of, its a long story). I clicked the Reading room forum and was surprised to find so many choices, none of which suit my purpose for posting my question, so I hope you will forgive me if I posted to the wrong forum.

Anyway, here is my question: I was looking at the contribution history of a page (Israeli History, I think?) and noticed it was created by an IP. I then clicked the contributions of this IP and thought I would try out the Geolocate button at the bottom of that page. To my surprise I was directed to ''ip2location. com'' which hung on my request. Just wondering if this is the correct website for a geolocate? Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 16:54, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

 * BTW is everybody here also seeing the following text after my post:
 * "Conversion Failed due to timeout or non zero exit code" - Maybe I made a mistake?"
 * Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 17:01, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi @Ottawahitech! The geolocate link works just fine for me. Additionally, I am seeing that text, but it's just from a footnote someone added above. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 21:04, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Kittycataclysm thanks for replying. Additionally I am wondering why the Geolocate link on this project (ENWB) leads to ip2location. com and not to whatismyipaddress. com, which is normally the link that wikimedia projects such as the English wikipedia link to Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 14:48, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Good question! I'm unfortunately not sure. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:09, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Kittycataclysm / anyone one else: From what I gather interface-admins control this type of thing, I think? Who are the interface-admins on WB? btw is there a list of functionaries on WB?
 * Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 14:43, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * You can check out Administrators, which should have a list of all the functionaries. Cheers —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 15:25, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Kittycataclysm, I love the link you provided above which includes not only the current list all Administrators/ Interface administrators/ Bureaucrats (None at this time)/ CheckUsers/ Non-regular administrators, but also a timeline of clickable functionaries right from day 1 of wikibooks. It is a great way to study the historical development of ENWB.
 * Is there also a list of all successful/unsuceesful Requests for Adminship somewhere? Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 17:12, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ottawahitech Unfortunately, that I'm not sure about. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:29, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * , there are many websites that can do this geolocation for you (an internet search should tell you some). In addition, the IP information tool, available to the majority of users, will tell you the country. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 18:07, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Leaderboard: Thanks for replying. I see from the link supplied by @Kittycataclysm above that you are an interface admin here on the English Wikibooks, so would like to ask you directly why you chose ip2location instead of the traditional whatismyipaddress. What sort of criteria do you use in deciding what WHOIS service to use? I am asking because, for privacy reasons, I always hesitate before clicking certain external links.
 * Additionally when I click the IP information tool on META which you link to above I get the following text:
 * This page doesn't currently exist; you can search this title in other pages or edit this page. If you recently created this page, try purging the server cache or searching the deletion log. [btw I cannot follow some of these directions such as editing this page on META since I am infinitely blocked there]
 * Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 16:05, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * , the ip2location tool was there long ago - I had no part in choosing it and I think it was there before I even had joined Wikibooks. Regarding your other question, can you try meta:IP_Editing:_Privacy_Enhancement_and_Abuse_Mitigation/IP_Info_feature? Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 16:12, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @Leaderboard: Thank you!
 * I have looked at the META page you linked to briefly, and it appears that since 2020 the staff of the Wikimedia foundation has been working on this large project with the goal of making "it easier for admins, vandal fighters and power users to access information about IP addresses." Even though the name of the project implies more privacy protection for contributors, I see nothing in the introduction talking about this aspect of the project. This is not surprising to me since I find most META documentation lacking in clarity, and contradictory. YMMV
 * Seems to me that the wikimedia movement has created a whole industry dedicated to fighting vandalism, to the detriment of improving content building. Of course I do not belong to the three groups above, so may not appreciate the importance of these initiatives. I would like to hear what others have to say about this. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 20:42, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * For those interested in this topic, I happened to bump into a wikipedia article that explains what Geolocate means:
 * Internet geolocation.
 * Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 16:44, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

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User talk:68.190.20.122

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C++ Programming/Code/Standard C Library/Math

Standard C Math
This section will cover the Math elements of the C Standard Library.


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C++ Programming/Code/Standard C Library/Functions/acos

acos
The acos function returns the arc cosine of arg, which will be in the range [0, pi]. arg should be between -1 and 1. If arg is outside this range, acos returns NAN and raises a floating-point exception.

 * Related topics: asin - atan - atan2 - cos - cosh - sin - sinh - tan - tanh


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C++ Programming/Code/Standard C Library/Functions/asin

asin
The asin function returns the arc sine of arg, which will be in the range [-pi/2, +pi/2]. arg should be between -1 and 1. If arg is outside this range, asin returns NAN and raises a floating-point exception.

 * Related topics: acos - atan - atan2 - cos - cosh - sin - sinh - tan - tanh


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User talk:Okie~enwikibooks

Welcome to Wikibooks, Okie! – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 04:11, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

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Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

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MATLAB Programming/Arrays/Cell Arrays

=Cell Array Introduction= Cell Arrays can contain differing information in every element. These types of arrays are useful when interacting with spreadsheet software.

Creating Cell Arrays
Cell arrays follow the same conventions as regular arrays except instead of square brackets use curly brackets.

array = [1, 2, 3; 4, 5, 6]; cell_array = {1, 2, 3; 4, 5, 6};

Cell arrays have fewer limitations than regular arrays. The regular array can hold strings; however, the string in each element must be the same length. If one element in a regular array is a string then all elements must be a string. Cell arrays have neither of these limitations.

cell_array = {1, 2, 'a', 'abc'; rand(3, 2), magic(3), eye(3), 'junk'} cell_array = [        1]    [         2]    'a'             'abc' [3x2 double]   [3x3 double]    [3x3 double]    'junk'

With fewer limitations for the content of a cell array comes complications. While cell arrays are a powerful tool, these arrays work differently because each element can be almost anything.

Dynamic Resizing
Cell arrays can be dynamically resized, which is a key feature in more advanced data structures. For example, a queue data structure using the commands:

cell_array{end+1}='a'; cell_array{end+1}='b';

An element can be popped from the front of the queue using the commands:

cell_array(1)=[]; % remove first element - resize cell_array(1)=[]; % remove first element - resize

GUI Tables
Cell arrays are used when displaying a table to a figure.

uitable('Data',{'hello',1;2,'there'})

Converting From a Numeric Array into a Cell Array
Use num2cell to convert from a numeric into a cell array.

>> cell_array = num2cell(numeric_array);

Converting From a Cell Array into a Numeric Array
Use cell2mat to convert from a cell into a numeric array.

>> numeric_array = cell2mat(numeric_cell_array);

=External Links= ControlTheoryPro.com

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C++ Programming/Code/Standard C Library/Functions/atan

atan
The function atan returns the arc tangent of arg, which will be in the range [-pi/2, +pi/2].

 * Related topics: acos - asin - atan2 - cos - cosh - sin - sinh - tan - tanh


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User talk:Cyderryder~enwikibooks

Welcome message
Welcome, Cyderryder!

Come introduce yourself at the new users page. If you have any questions, you can ask there or contact me personally. Webaware talk 09:16, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Cyderryder. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Cyderryder~enwikibooks that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:07, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 04:50, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

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Solved Question Papers - IIT JEE

1996

 * Physics Question Paper
 * Solutions

 * Chemistry Question Paper
 * Solutions

 * Mathematics Question Paper
 * Solutions

2005

 * Mathematics Question Paper
 * Solutions

2009

 * /PAPER 1/
 * /MathsQP2009/

title: Solved Question Papers - IIT JEE