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User talk:Jomegat/Archive 2

Recreational Calculus
I googled "recreational calculus" to see if anyone actually did it and this page was #1!
 * Well, that comes as a surprise to me! Thanks for pointing it out. --Jomegat 14:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi
Glad you are here - trying to sort it - thanks Jim -- Herby talk thyme 12:01, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Yeah - what a mess! I assume you've blocked this guy? --Jomegat 12:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

 * That is the odd thing Jim - twice! & the IP, trying to get a steward but no joy so far -- Herby  talk thyme 12:07, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Bummer. And this morning I can't hang around to help much either. --Jomegat 12:09, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

 * No problem - enjoy the walking! -- Herby talk thyme 12:11, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

"That" IP
6 month block on en wp, cross wiki vandal (here) - any thoughts on proper block length? Regards -- Herby talk thyme 13:24, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Not really, except that one day doesn't seem long enough. I wouldn't complain about a 6-month block here. --Jomegat 13:27, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Good to me and done, the day was just to keep him out of my hair (hadn't picked up that you were on line straight away, regards -- Herby talk thyme 13:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Yeah, that's what I thought. I'm glad you were here. --Jomegat 13:32, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Re:Count Ticker
I dont really know what happened to the edit counter, but I have a few theories. The algorithm is statistical, because counting the exact number of page hits would be overwhelming to the counter server. The counts reset every month, and the results appear to "refine" themselves as the month goes on. It only makes sense, therefore, that the edit counts at the beginning of the month would be inaccurate, and would be more accurate at the end of the month.

I dont know why the edits from the beginning of this month are so wildly off, but if you divide that count by 100, you get a much more accurate picture of how things probably are. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 03:16, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Surfing Honor Requirements
If this is a legitimate request for a module, would you move it to the appropriate location and consider writing it? Otherwise, I'd delete it as junk without even waiting the 7 days. Up to you. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 00:33, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Hi Mike,
 * Apparently, it is already gone. --Jomegat 02:38, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Template for Trench Fire
Jomegat - I'm not sure how to make a template. I wonder if you'd like to make one somewhat like this....

The Trench Fire is a simple way to build a cooking fire. By digging a rectangular trench to build a fire in, you can rest a cooking grate, or a pot on the dirt on either side of the trench. If the shallow part of the trench faces the wind, air will be directred into the fire, making it burn hotly.

 ✅ All you hafta do is type the name of the new page into the text box on the left and click "Go" - then click on the "create this page" link. The other way to do it is just transclude the page wherever you want it:

makes a red link like this:

Click that, and edit to your heart's content. I added the new page to Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Camping/Fire/Trench --Jomegat 19:47, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

anytime
No biggie, that anon you reverted was me, and I was a bit confused why you reverted but it's understandable (it WAS a loss of a lot of text), hope you have a good day. Mattb112885 (talk to me) 02:06, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

foundation-l
foundation-l is a mailing list for Foundation-related stuff. We have our own (comparatively inactive) mailing list textbook-l. Hope that helps! – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 04:16, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks for answering mike! I was just about to post a reply myself. Foundation-l is where people talk about foundation-wide business. like mike said, there is also a textbook-l for wikibooks-specific stuff. However, i've found that most of the business that gets discussed on textbook-l is about en.wikibooks, by en.wikibookians. So, i find that it's better to ignore the textbook-l list and just post announcements here in the reading room. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 16:15, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Subject:First aid
For the pages in "your" book that appear here, do you mind if I go through and re-word and/or take out parts without discussing first? There's a few things that should be changed, like: "The Heimlich Institute recommends performing the Heimlich Maneuver on drowning victims before performing CPR in order to get as much water as possible out of the lungs." ...Heimlich is basically a nutjob. There's no agreement whatsoever that this technique is effective (or even non-harmful); I doubt it should be included.

Anyways, it's not like there's huge glaring errors, but some of the finer points could be fine-tuned ;) – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 23:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Would I mind? On the contrary!  I would be thrilled if you would vet this stuff.  I pulled most of it from the U.S. military training manuals.  I am certainly not an expert in first aid.  I have taken first aid courses, but I'm not exactly a teacher.  Thank you very much for your offer! --Jomegat 23:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Some "playful" IPs around today, regards -- Herby talk thyme 17:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Favor
Could you delete for me? I meant to create it as a template, and accidentally created it as a category. Νεοπτόλεμος 04:15, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ (and happy New Year!) --Jomegat (talk) 04:33, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, you too! Νεοπτόλεμος 04:40, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

RFI
oops. Still, even spelled properly it can be deviously frustrating, can't it?! – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 04:19, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Import
If you import the top revision, then try to import all revisions over top it works better. You'll often have to attempt to import all revisions multiple times because the first few will fail. Since the extension history-merges if the page already exists, you end up with the page history intact, even though it might come across in several batches. I'm still not clear why it fails - will check now while I'm still thinking about it... – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 21:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Long time, eh?
There was some IP vandalism on one of the pages in "your" book, so I temporarily semi-protected it. Check logs for the page if you like. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 05:05, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks Mike. I guess you mean the Dogs honor.  I had noticed and appreciated the reversion, but I failed miserably when it came to expressing that appreciation.  Thanks again, not only for that, but for patrolling in general. It seems that every time I check RC, everything I find has already been dealt with by Mike.lifeguard.  One thing that did surprise me on this one though, is that the changes never showed up in my watch pages, even though the page is on my watchlist.  I noticed them in RC. Weird, huh? --Jomegat (talk) 05:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * That is odd. No idea what might have caused that. It may be caused by the protection putting a null revision at the top, which isn't shown due to some peculiarity in the watchlist?? But that's totally a guess. Have a good day/night/whatever; I'm off to bed. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 05:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Before that, though: You may want to see Reading room/General as that will be moving ahead tomorrow afternoon. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 05:27, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
Howdy, Jim. I usually just warn and revert, but I felt that this might merit a sysop's attention and a block. Thanks, Νεοπτόλεμος 01:05, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll keep my eye out. This IP only made one edit, and you did send a warning.  I'll usually not block unless a warning is ignored.  Thanks for the revert and for alerting me.  --Jomegat (talk) 01:55, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

More vandalism
Every diff is vandalism. Would you be so kind as to block? Thanks. Chazz (talk) 20:19, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If I give someone a warning, I won't block them unless they ignore the warning. I warned at 20:15 UTC, and the last edit was at 19:56 UTC.  Maybe he was long gone by then, or maybe the warning was enough (yeah - right).  If he comes back and makes trouble, I will block then (or another admin will). Thanks for the reverts.  --Jomegat (talk) 20:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Understood, and you are most welcome. Chazz (talk) 21:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Potential DSP Contributors
Hey Jim, thanks for the note! You should know by now that we're a lot nicer as a group here then they are at WP. As far as I know (and I may have missed a few edits here and there) I'm the only author to that book, and I'm clearly not doing a good job of maintaining it! Let me put it this way: So long as these contributors are minimally civil towards each other and towards other contributors, nobody here is going to bother them at all. Assuming that these are just ordinary nice people that got burned by the bullshit at wikipedia, they're probably a perfect fit here at our project. If you can get them to sign up, I'll roll out the red carpet for them. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 18:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the heads up. I sent a welcome message, and hopefully it was nice and encouraging enough!. I take a lot of pride in the fact that we're a kinder community then at Wikipedia, and this is just another excuse for us to demonstrate that. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 20:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Yes, I read your message, and I thought it was down right eye watering ;-) Thanks. I told him you were a nice guy and that his fears were unfounded.  We'll see if anything comes of it.  --Jomegat (talk) 20:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Ext link on Paperhanging
Just following through one from en wp here I see ehow features on Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Vocational/Paperhanging & other Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book pages. Thanks -- Herby talk thyme 17:07, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't use eHow, but then again, I'm not the one who wrote that particular chapter. I don't mind cleaning out the eHow links.  Is there a good way to find the others? --Jomegat (talk) 17:32, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevermind - found it: Special:Linksearch/%2A.ehow.com, and removed the links from my book. Looks like I was guilty of adding a couple of them myself, but I didn't know! --Jomegat (talk) 17:40, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Not sure it is an issue - I just wanted you to know about it as I'd found it, regards -- Herby talk thyme 18:42, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Gold Prospecting Honor
Yes I wrote and submitted the honor. I plan on updating the honor page some more, adding more links and probably a number of pictures for some of the requirements. I will also work on the advanced honor, but I don't have the answers done for it yet, so it will take more than the copy/paste/formatting that the basic honor required. I noticed that none of the pages contain images of the honor patches, is that due to a copyright issue? I have the patch image that was approved so I could add it, but I would rather have the honor pages be consistant. MrJoe (talk) 15:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's a copyright thing. The NAD is very liberal with the copyright, and allows the images to be used as long as they are used in conjunction with PF ministry.  However, wikimedia commons will not allow those kinds of restrictions on uploaded images.  If you upload it there, anyone has to be able to use it or modify it for any purpose.  We COULD POSSIBLY upload them to Wikibooks under fair use (the commons do not allow fair use), but I'm not sure I have the stomach for a battle if it comes up.  --Jomegat (talk) 15:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I totally understand. On another topic, is there a way to setup a custom version of the table of contents that doesn't add the automatic section number to each item? Or maybe a table of contents that would pull from a set of ordered lists? MrJoe (talk) 17:48, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Not that I know of. You could suppress the TOC by adding  (I think that's the right syntax) to the document.  Then you could add your own if you wanted one. But that might mess up the print version (when we make one - I think the notoc thing will apply to the whole book then). --Jomegat (talk) 22:28, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, Jim is right about the syntax. And you could perhaps put, as the "noinclude" tags will prevent it from carrying over to the print version and causing problems there. Νεοπτόλεμος ( talk | email | contribs ) 01:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Νεοπτόλεμος. Didn't think of the tag, but that would take care of the print version.  We could always add the  to Template:Honor header too, and it would suppress the toc in all the honors in one fell swoop. --Jomegat (talk) 02:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Dandelions!
One nice thing about the bloom clock: dandelions become such a wonderful sight :). Sorry I've been out of touch for a while, but my father dies about a month ago and real life has had me otherwise busy (springtime for the gardener).

I ran some interpretations on the New Hampshire data as well, see Bloom Clock/Keys/New Hampshire/Global Comparison Worksheet. I'm not sure why it came out quite the way it did though, though keep in mind that "Lat summer" = "September in PA", so maybe not so far off. I'm guessing anything you see blooming now will be either on Bloom Clock/Keys/Global/Temperate/Late Winter or on Bloom Clock/Keys/Global/Temperate/Early Spring... in theory your springtime should be a "compressed" version of what the global/temperate key suggests. -- SB_Johnny | PA! 18:22, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Heh... yeah, I know you're not a big fan of the ornamentals :). 2 good reasons to log 'em though: 1 - they give you a larger data set, which helps make the regional to global key comparisons more accurate. 2 - they can help the educational depth of the keys, since someone else in New Hampshire might not know which plants are native and which ones are introduced ;-). Might be easier to just recruit a garden lady at your church though... the more bloom clock junkies, the better!
 * BTW, the only inclusion rule is that a plant be outdoors: if it can bloom outside in a container, it can do the same thing if someone plants it in the ground (and, again, it's hard to tell an annual from a native perennial if you don't know the plant). Annuals generally don't provide any clues towards any data interpretation, but they are nice to have on a key (actually, they might be valuable in some way I haven't thought of, who knows?). -- SB_Johnny | PA! 23:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

User info page
Hi Jomegat - I finally got around to adding some personal info to my wiki profile page. Thought you might want to take a look and give me any feedbak you see fit to give.

Thanks Gerald

Wiki Profile for Gerald
 * Jomegat - do you use this profile for "About the Author" page or a seperate place ? If seperate - do you have an instructions for doing so ? Thanks GG (talk) 18:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Hi Gerald! I have a page at About the author/Jomegat that I transclude into a few honors, and at the end of my user page.  To do that, just insert  in the page.  I actually transclude a BUNCH of other stuff to handle overlapping requirements (such as knots - each has its own page, and most are transcluded in multiple honors).  My "about" page is written in third person, but my user page is written in first person.  There's no rule about that, but it made sense to me.  Is that what you were asking? --Jomegat (talk) 18:44, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds good - I'll have a look at a few, and then maybe add one of my own. GG (talk) 19:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Argg - Sorry to ask such a (probably silly) question. Once I've created my 'about the author' page, how do I get to it to edit it should it need updates ? Clicking 'edit' just shows me the curly brackets and the link to the template. (I think it's a template). I see I must get more wiki literate. Oh and let me know if my 'about' is too copied from yours. I was thinking a semi-standard 'about' page would be helpful to users who want to know about the person writing stuff. GG (talk) 15:44, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I found this in an old email..... Just highlight the reference tag with the mouse and paste it into the search box. Then hit the Go button.  Lemme know if you have any more questions. This would likely answer my question but for...clearly I did something wrong - Now my "about page' is deleted. Warning: You are recreating a page that was previously deleted. You should consider whether it is appropriate to continue editing this page. The deletion log for this page is provided here for convenience: * 14:54, 2 May 2008 Mike.lifeguard (Talk | contribs) deleted "About the author/Jazzmanian"  (Not textbook material

)

Hi Gerald,

I'll talk to Mike about that tomorrow. Just got back from camporee and I am exhausted. --Jomegat (talk) 22:48, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool - hope you had fun - we go in a couple of weeks. This morning was a car wash (fundraiser), then my band played a concert in the park. I know the exhausted feeling. :-)

New Pages
Thanks for the help. I think i have the new pages I want under a book now. Each has a "Telecommunications Theory\" designation int he title. Should I clean up the pages that didn't end up under this book?

--Typewriter
 * I deleted the pages that weren't properly named. – Mike.lifeguard  | talk 21:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

That would be Awesome! A number of us here at Indiana university will be working on this. --Typewriter

Thanks folks! --Typewriter

Thanks
Thanks! Ewen (talk) 20:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks a lot brother for helping to add the Malaysia flag images and other state flags as well. I'll try to update the page time to time since I'm a bit tied up with work. I'm happy to say I just completed my Christian Citizenship Honor last week. --Darkkey (talk) 00:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome! Two of the flags didn't make it, as they were uploaded to Wikipedia instead of to the Wikimedia Commons.  I will transfer them as soon as I can, and then they'll show up in the Wikibook too.  Congratulations on earning the honor!  I can hardly wait to read the Malaysian answers to this one! --Jomegat (talk) 00:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Thank again bro letting me know regarding the contribution signature information. Will do as per your advice. Sorry for putting it in earlier. Can I include about author in the Christian Citizenship (Malaysia) page?
 * Yes please! In fact, I encourage you to do that.  Having an about the author page allows you to put a little more info about yourself without getting in the way of the general flow of the book.  I love to read author biographies, but not everyone does. --Jomegat (talk) 01:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * One other thing! I left the answers I thought would apply to other countries in the Christian Citizenship template (the one that you substituted to create the page).  If any of that does not apply to Malaysia, don't hesitate to correct it.  Also, if you think it would apply in very few places outside the United States, let me know and we can remove it from the template too. --Jomegat (talk) 01:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot again bro for your suggestion. Will review it and let you know on it bro. I need one help, can I use the template that you use to create the about author page. Sorry but I'm new to wiki formatting, I still learning on this language.
 * I didn't use a template for my page - I just typed it up and threw in an image. I did notice some similarities between your user page and my user page, and that's OK with me (you might want to double check that it's all accurate as it applies to you though).  My user page is different from my About the Author page though - the former is less formal, and the latter is written in the third person ("he" vs "I").  Feel free to borrow any text of mine that you can use though! --Jomegat (talk) 01:53, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing out. Had done the correct changes in my user page. Will create an About Author page later on. Will surely get back to you if I need any help on wiki. Hope you dont mind.
 * You're very welcome. I don't mind contact at all - in fact, I relish it! Thanks for your work on the project! --Jomegat (talk) 02:13, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Our conjugating German friends
Don't know why we didn't think to do this earlier! :D Νεοπτόλεμος ( talk | email | contribs ) 22:26, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup! Hopefully that will stifle the conjugators.  I actually did think of that the time before but didn't quite have the syntax down.  But now at least we have a strategy! --Jomegat (talk) 00:06, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Naming – thanks!
Just wanted to say “thanks!” for your edit of Naming – good point about initials, and you’ve an amusing story yourself.

Nbarth (talk) 22:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandal
This guy isn't just a vandal, he's an absolute sicko. Red4tribe (talk) 15:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup. I blocked him for a year.  It would have been indefinite, but I thought maybe it was a public IP address. --Jomegat (talk) 15:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, good thing you did that, some of that stuff was really disturbing. Red4tribe (talk) 18:29, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Bird id
Hi, Jim. I love your bird id template, very impressive! Question for you. I think being able to edit sections on long entries is useful. So instead of putting everything in the description field, I played with the format and did this. I mostly used the headers from some of my own field guides, and the text is copied from Wikipedia. I guess doing this, if I had a bird call, I'd put it under voice.

What do you think of that? Thanks for your thoughts.

Kind regards, Snakesteuben (talk) 10:52, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow, great answer. Thanks! You've already given this a lot of thought. I just got here, so let me do the same, and I'll give you a more substantive reply. Just a couple things for now. I think a translations section would be useful, particularly for birds that are found in foreign countries. After all, the local vernacular name would appear on any sighting lists they handed out in parks and recreation areas, for tourists building their life lists. I just added one to the Great Tit entry.

Major overhaul, huh? Well, don't worry, I wouldn't dream of changing that template in situ. So, yes, I agree, a copy's the way to go.

Say, are you an administrator here? I hate working (particularly "major overhauls" ;-) ) on the English sites, where I can't delete pages--especially if I don't have a friend I can ask to clean up my (inevitable) screw-ups in that regard, without having to go too, too public. Plus, if I figure out any css tweaks like you mentioned, I don't have access to implement them on this site. Snakesteuben (talk) 12:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Just answered my own question. So, I'll make sure you're around when I start creating stuff. Gheheh! Snakesteuben (talk) 12:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Vandal
This Vandal has been warned a couple of time prior by you, I just reverted another disruptive edit. By the way, thank you for your support in my request for adminship. Red4tribe (talk) 12:46, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Apples
Nope, that's where it's supposed to be :). When I have time I'll be importing a bunch of stuff from WP to start the book, which will be a compendium of apple cultivars with info such as graft and pollination compatibility, etc. -- SB_Johnny | PA! 11:04, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Birds of Australia/Queensland
Recently I've been contemplating a FG to birds of Australia or Queensland and have been quite busy adding images and media on the WikiProject Birds [WT:BIRD] Can I use images that I've already uploaded to Commons? How can I find out if I can use portions of articles that are already on WP? (rangemaps etc) With your experience of FG's can you point to any more relevant info on the subject. Aviceda (talk) 09:07, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Ping
Hi, Jim, it has now been one month since we last talked, but I haven't abandoned this site and the Field Guide project. However, I have decided to start and work on the same project on another language site. I'll be scratching out my template/format ideas over there--where I'm rather more comfortable and less lost. ;-) (Just a reminder, you do know non-admins can't see, glom off of, or backtrack links from previous versions of pages you guys delete, right?)

One thing I know for sure: I totally agree with your observation about standardising all the page names and links by Latin names. The only annoying thing is that those sometimes change, or are disputed. But hey, that's why the Goddess made redirects! 'Course it's a big improvement over English names, which not only seem to multiply exponentially, especially with plants, but often overlap. Feh.

OTOH, the primary English name chosen will never be wrong unlike the case where taxonomy changes. I wonder if there's some way to alert automatically when wikispecies info materially changes for a given entry? Hmm... maybe pagegenerators.py to get new and changed pages since the last check, then loop a grep against the WB monthly dump page names. Just thinking out loud. (click, click) Other ideas, but low priority for now.

More later. Promise. But not sure exactly when. Kindest regards, Snakesteuben (talk) 13:43, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Image:Bandsaw.jpg
It's (at least) missing info from Wikipedia. Probably better to move it to Commons rather than moving it here if it is free. — Mike.lifeguard | talk 02:39, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Mike,
 * Looks like I uploaded that one three weeks into my sojourn at Wikibooks. Back then I didn't know that just because it was on Wikipedia, it might not be free.  Also, I don't think I knew about the Commons back then either.  I deleted the image.  I will probably go to a hardware store with a camera in hand today and take a replacement photo.  --Jomegat (talk) 12:35, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds good - Commons doesn't have any images of bandsaws. — Mike.lifeguard | talk 12:58, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Not unless you like tuna! --Jomegat (talk) 13:00, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ewww
 * Good find - wasn't properly categorized I guess. — Mike.lifeguard | talk 14:42, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I found it by searching for "band saw" instead of "bandsaw". I don't think I'll use it in the carpentry chapter! --Jomegat (talk) 14:48, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I took a picture of a Bandsaw at Lowes.jpg yesterday and uploaded it. It has a terminal case of the sucks, but it's better than the tuna version (at least for my purposes!) and it's got a free license.  I still don't know if Lowes likes people taking pictures in their store, which is why the picture is not better than it is.  I wanted to get in and out before I learned their policy.  --Jomegat (talk) 00:40, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:Pattern Vandals
I checked the two IPs you gave me, no obvious connections between the two. When you block them make sure to disable account creation so they don't get used for more vandalism. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 17:24, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't block them. The offense did not seem to warrant a block to me.  It could have been two independent, innocuous experiments, so I let it slide.  But if it's repeated... --Jomegat (talk) 17:27, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Vocational/Electricity
Hello,

Re Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Vocational/Electricity - you want to double-check that meter reading; it's 60169.1 not 60279.1.

Thanks, 137.205.179.218 (talk) 10:15, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations!
I saw your bulletin board post, congratulations on all your hard work! It's no small feat to do what you and your team of volunteers have done, but I probably don't need to tell you that. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 15:45, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Heredity Honor
Hello, jomegat! You may know me better as tuningpeg571 from the Pathfinder forum. I had so much fun doing the diagram for Meiosis! (I used Paint Shop Pro). I'm taking A&P at UC this semester, and when I was looking at the heredity honor and realized that the content was exactly what I was studying, I couldn't justify not finishing it. It also helped me prepare for the test I took this morning, so it was helpful to me as well.

I still want to add more content to it (I have a similar diagram made for mitosis, too), but since there are answers for all the questions, I suppose that it would be safe to mark it as "finished". Elspeth (talk) 00:17, 9 September 2008 (UTC)Elspeth

Traveling around colombia
You voted "keep" on Votes for deletion. Since then, issues have been raised on possible copyright violations and I wanted to bring these added concerns to your attention in case you weren't following the discussion. --Swift (talk) 02:55, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing it up again. I had seen the discussion, but was kinda busy at the time.  Then I forgot!  BTW, I imported the Sailing article from WP earlier this evening.  I held off when I read your note, but their answer to your objection seemed solid to me.  Hope that's OK with you. --Jomegat (talk) 03:43, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. On the Sailing book, I still don't think it's a useful page even to start with, but if someone wants it as a starting point, I'm not going to be in the way. I left User:Wcoole a note with some more resources. --Swift (talk) 03:52, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Template:Collection
Hey Jim, I was thinking about changing the Template:Collection you created into a sidebox instead of an mbox. There's an example of what I was thinking about on the right. What do you think? Would you mind if I made this change, or something like it? --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 13:58, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Go for it. Layout is not my forte, and I considered this nothing more than a place holder.  I was hoping someone with better taste would come along and fix it. --Jomegat (talk) 14:50, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks Jim. Feel free to fix up my wording or anything if you want. --Whiteknight (Page) (Talk) 15:14, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The "Click Here to load it." link no worky. It doesn't load anything, and it doesn't unload what you already have loaded.  I tried it from Collections/Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Nature.  Then I used the "Click this link to see it" and loaded it manually.  That worked, so I went to Collections/Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/ADRA and tried loading that - the Nature series was still loaded. I don't have time to dig into it right now, but if you wanna take a crack at it, knock yerself out.  --Jomegat (talk) 16:01, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Geometry
Thanks for informing me that you reverted my edits. I know understand why they might have been a bit advanced.

Topology Expert (talk) 09:06, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Template:Bigwelcome
...needs to be substituted →. — Mike.lifeguard | talk 23:55, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

98.169.118.235
Thank you for warning this IP. However, I know the person, and she was vandalizing the article, that I have been working on, as a practical joke. I was not happy with her. We have an understanding that she will not vandalize again. Please pardon this incident. Thank you. -- CFeyecare   Talk! 23:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sometimes a warning from a stranger is more effective than a warning from a friend. I'm glad you are working it out together.  --Jomegat (talk) 00:01, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it wont happen again. -- CFeyecare   Talk!   22:04, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Don't you understand courtesy
Why you deleted the talk page of a user I welcomed? --HarmfulDracula (talk) 22:22, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Bat Basic honour appears not to create PDF properly.
When I click PDF version on the basic bat honour, I get nothing but the license page. Forcing re-compile produces the same results. There is a message which reads "Templates in category Exclude in print have been excluded." I wonder, is there an Exclude tag that needs to be removed ? Gerald (talk) 17:01, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the exclusion templates are under active development at the moment. Looks like a bug! I don't have time to deal with it ATM though :-( --Jomegat (talk) 17:04, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No panic, just thought I'd let you know. P.S. I got one of the new Pathfinder Pocket Guides on the weekend. Pretty great to see the wiki illustrations of campfires publised on page 54 and 56. Shows that our work here is starting to impact the Pathfinder mission. Each drop in the bucket helps ! I'm so pleased to see our work in use! Oh and now that the pins along the pocket is in print, maybe I'll finish my PHP program to help Pathfinders place pins and badges on uniforms. Yahoo progress !
 * The Bats was not the only thing suffering from the problem. It seems to be systemic.  I reported it, so maybe something will happen.  What are these Pathfinder Pocket Guides?  I haven't heard of them, but I want one! --Jomegat (talk) 17:59, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The only other one not working for me so far is camp skills 1. The pocket guide is called "Pathfinder Pocket Guide", and was distributed by our conference youth director. The ISBN is 978-1-57756-475-1 and is available through AdventSource... https://www.adventsource.org/book.aspx?ID=35561 Gerald (talk) 21:36, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

FYI - also did a little work on the Canadian Christian Citizenship section. Gerald (talk) 20:33, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Very nice. It looks to me as if we could bump this one up to 100%, but I will reserve that honor for you.  Do you think requirement 7 could benefit from a list of famous Canadians?   BTW, I just now ordered a Pocket Guide.  I can't wait to see it! --Jomegat (talk) 00:46, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sections 3 - 8C - 11 - 13 still need entries - I bumped it up to 50%, but 75% may be more accurate since I added the immigration entry. Gerald (talk) 23:21, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I also started a discussion on the citizenship template page re: the Pathfinder flag. Gerald (talk) 23:34, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Beowulf
thanks for the editing help. Ben (talk) 18:30, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

First aid/Burns
This isn't used in First aid any longer, but I guess it came from your book previously. Do you want to take it back? If not, it might as well get deleted. — Mike.lifeguard | talk 23:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I have taken it back. Thanks for the heads-up. --Jomegat (talk) 02:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Non vandalism and query tag
Regarding: *14:38, 8 December 2008 Jomegat (Talk | contribs) deleted "Commensalism"  (Dictionaries and thesauruses belong at Wiktionary: content was: ' Commensalism is the when one organism benefits from the other, but the other organism neither benefits nor is hurt by the other organism.') Just stating that I think it is beneficial not to speedy delete non destructive edits, giving Wikibookians a chance to understand the limitations and enable them to address the issues will undoubtedly bring more content to the project. By tagging edits that aren't destructive or void (nonsense) as a query, it will give Wikibookians the chance to improve and learn for the first action without negatively affecting the project. --Panic (talk) 21:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. You are probably right.  Thanks for pointing that out.  I restored it, and we can delete it some time in the future.  --Jomegat (talk) 22:03, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Non policy permitted deletion
Hi Jomegat,

I noticed you deleted a user page with the rationale that it was a "Nonsense, spam or vandalism only page". The speedy deletion policy, however, only applies to the requesting users own pages and pages in the main namespace. I don't think there is any real need to restore the page (I doubt this user is actually going to request it) but figured I'd raise this with you. As I mentioned on Reading room/Administrative Assistance, this isn't really a big deal. --Swift (talk) 14:18, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Well, if that was not spam, I guess I don't know what spam looks like. Maybe this should be put up for discussion in a more public place.  For the record, I not only deleted the pages, but blocked the users indefinitely.  I am frankly surprised that anyone would take issue with this, but if the community believes I am out of line, I am willing to be educated. --Jomegat (talk) 14:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

 * No one is saying that it wasn't spam. As I mentioned above, the policy only applies to the requesting users' own pages and pages in the namespace. From WB:SPEEDYcurrent version:
 * "If the page you want deleted is your own user page, user talk page, or any subpages thereof, or a page in the main namespace which falls into one or more of the following parameters:" [emphasis mine]
 * I doubt few will be anxious to get these back just on the principle (though I, for one, would grant it if requested). --Swift (talk) 14:49, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Swift, thanks for pointing this out. I didn't realize we weren't allowed to delete spam if it appeared in User space.  Maybe it would be best for me to undelete these pages and unblock the users until such a time as the community decides they should go. --Jomegat (talk) 14:57, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Have a peek!
Hi Jim. v:Category:Bloom Clock/Global Comparisons/New Hampshire has all the data comparisons for the global-temperate seasons, have a look before I reset the nhamp templates :-). Once I have the templates adding the categories, we can go through and make sure the correct global ones are on there too (we can use a DPL list).

I'm going to adjust w:Template:Wikiversity-bc to show the seasons as well... working on it. -- SB_Johnny  talk 13:06, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Johnny,
 * I get the w:Template:Wikiversity-bc, but I suppose I'm too dense to make sense of the v:Category:Bloom Clock/Global Comparisons/New Hampshire. Maybe an explanation would help? --Jomegat (talk) 02:35, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Heh, sorry. It's comparing the categories... I reset the SEPA templates to the earlier months (e.g., August is now late summer, not early fall), and stripped all the global season categories off of the rest of the templates (including the nhamp ones). So those DPL pages are just checking to see what months in New Hampshire correspond to what global-temperate seasons. So, for example, June corresponds most closely to early summer now (same in SEPA... the regions are pretty much the same except for spring). So now I'm going to go with the "best matches" for the NH months and add the categories to the templates.
 * Hopefully we can get some more folks logging from the south (or Europe, or South America, etc.) to match more regions to the global season index. Once that's done I'll add categories to the "bgpgt" templates so we can track them down and make sure they all match, as well as adding the wp templates (I'll try to get help from darklama to make those). -- SB_Johnny  talk 10:58, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Dangling redirect
I was going to keep tabs and remember you in a few days or re-tag it for speedy, but reconsidered since a)I don't know what your rational is for this sort of redirects b)You may be waiting so to guarantee that the user understood the move and doesn't fell lost c)You may already have added it to a todo list you will get to in time, so, as to remove myself from the loop and guarantee that you have all under control I'm calling your attention to the Elijah Brown redirect page. (No need for a reply to me, unless you have some sort of unorthodox rational for keeping these sorts of redirects around, that I would like to know about...) --Panic (talk) 06:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Panic. I wanted to give him a day or so before deleting the page.  I did leave a message on his talk page explaining what happened, but who knows - he may have book marked Elijah Brown, and that might be the first page he comes to when he returns.  Dunno if you'd consider that unorthodox or not, but I sure don't mind explaining my actions.  I just tagged it with a speedy and an explanation so we don't forget.  --Jomegat (talk) 15:12, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That was what I thought, but some admins don't delete redirects if they are referenced (as in the post you made in his talk page), this could lead to keeping the redirect until he deleted the post. My intention here was just that to check if it was a lapse of yours and remove this for the list of stuff I'm watching for, a tag similar to the query (7 days to speedy) for this kind of stuff would address this situations... --Panic (talk) 15:27, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Linking to files on Wikipedia
Hi Jim! Can you give me some guidance on how to link to a public domain photo uploaded and referenced on Wikipedia, but not available on its "Commons?" Check out the Model Railroading honor 6. e. (I've included the URL but not in proper format to get the semaphore signal pic.) I'm trying to finish my contributions by tomorrow. Davekobliska (talk) 23:14, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Dave,
 * The simple answer is... you hafta move the photo to the Commons. There is no automated way of doing that.

 * First step is to download the highest resolution image they have to your PC.
 * Then go to the Commons and look for the "Upload File" button in the left panel. That will take you to the upload page.
 * Click on "It is from another Wikimedia project".
 * On that page, look for "CommonsHelper tool" (open that in another tab if you can)
 * Fill out the form (I think you can ignore the TUSC stuff), and that will give you a bunch of text to paste into the Commons upload form (replace the "Information" template with whatever text the helper tool gave you). You can also ignore the licensing field because the tool should have extracted that too.
 * Finally... hit the upload button.
 * All this sounds a lot more complicated than it is, because I have probably broken it down more than was necessary.
 * Hope that helps! --Jomegat (talk) 00:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism??
Could you check and/or revert M62flyover's edits to Writing Effective Songs. I don't know if they were trying to vandalize the page or not but it doesn't look very productive. Thanks --Xxagile (talk) 03:58, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

 * I looked at that too, and had a hard time deciding what to do about it. I don't think it is necessarily vandalism, but rather the unproductive expression of an opinion.  Perhaps (s)he should be shown the Be bold policy and asked to overhaul the book rather than tearing it down?  --Jomegat (talk) 04:05, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * There. I took a stab. --Jomegat (talk) 04:09, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

It's me
This is jomegat logged in from elsewhere. just wanna see myip address. --67.142.161.30 (talk) 12:24, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Jomegat logged in from Concord Adventist Church. --67.142.161.32 (talk) 13:12, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on DSST
I was actually actively searching for the reason that I didn't have a link back to the book on each chapter when you left me that message. I was hoping you could help me with something else. I created study guide catagories for both DSST and CLEP, then attempted to make them subcatgories of the study guide catagory, but on the study guide catagory page, they aren't listed as subcatagies, but as pages. Can you tell me why? Thanks. --18:27, 14 April 2009 (UTC)~
 * Yup. What you need to do is come up with a name for the subcat, and add your pages to that category.  That should create a red link with the category name, and clicking it will take you to a new page -  .  In that page you will need to add , and all will be well. --Jomegat (talk) 19:30, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Deleting The GIMP
Hello, do you think you could delete The GIMP for me, so that I can move The GIMP/Contents over there? I'd be grateful. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:38, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ - Yup! I also deleted and restored, and that will merge the histories of the tow pages. --Jomegat (talk) 13:43, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick action! I would not be able to do this properly, including merging the histories. --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:40, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The quick action was by luck. I just happened to visit WB a few minutes after you asked. But I was (and am) happy to help.  --Jomegat (talk) 17:28, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Request to recreate Flamenco page in Wikibook: Guitar
Hi Jomegat. I've just started to edit the Wikibook: Guitar. I noticed that you were the last person to remove the Flamenco page. Please have a look at the work I've done so far. Mainly the "Chord Reference" and "Guitar/Jazz" section. I know I can create the page without you having a look but I think it would probably be a good idea to get someone else's opinion on the work I've already done before I dedicate myself to the task. --Sluffs (talk) 14:53, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Sluffs. Yes! Please create the Flamenco page.  The version I had deleted was one word and was clearly a case of  blatant vandalism.  If you have any questions, need help, or just want to bounce ideas off someone, drop me a note! --Jomegat (talk) 16:28, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

 * thanks for the suggestion. It proved very useful. The Wikibook Guitar is a nicely designed book due to the hard work of previous editors and should be helpful to many guitarists.

--Sluffs (talk) 15:13, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Help @ pathfinders forum
I realized today I had registered at the Pathfinders online forum with an email address which no longer exists. (ISP change). Anyways, I changed my email address to a current one, and the BBS logged me off, and says my account is inactive. I can't login, and I can't find a place to contact the admins while logged off. I know you are a mod over there, so I hope you can put me in touch with an admin. I am "Gerald G" over there.... (I have not received a re-activate email at the new address.  Thanks - Gerald .aka. Jazzmanian
 * As it turns out, I noticed it there before I noticed it here. I'm an admin there too.  I had already sent you an email asking what was up.  The tools for the bbs are a little bit clunky, so let's hope I didn't mess anything up. I Usually go through the list of inactive users several times per day, because we have changed registration over there to require an admin to activate an account. Your acct showed up as inactive.  So I activated it.  But then I couldn't find it.  Dunno what that means.  I eventually hit the back button until I came across your page in the admin-user section, and tried "force reactivation".  Dunno what that does.  Maybe activating still requires you to ack, and forced activation does not?  It's a mystery to me.  Anyhow, we get this sorted. --Jomegat (talk) 22:49, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The reason I couldn't find it after I activated it was because I spelled it wrong! --Jomegat (talk) 22:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

---Thanks - I just did other things for a few hours to see what would sort itself out. I can get onto the forum again - thanks. There are messages on the board that say to contact admins if there is trouble, but no place to do so unless logged in (that I could find). This might be a logical canundrum no ?

Who am I?
A penny for your thoughts on this book? It seems to reference some terms that come up as being related to Hinduism, so maybe I should put it under Indian religions instead of Theology. I found the source text at http://www.scribd.com/doc/8143836/Who-Am-I which says "the WWW reprint is for free distribution" in the PDF. However, the Scribd pages lists the copyright as CC-BY-NC, which is not an allowed license for content, but that may be incorrect and this book was added prior to its addition on Scribd (October 2007 versus November 2008). Further, I can't shake the feeling that it's mostly proselytizing. -- Adrignola talk contribs 03:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

 * You had to ask the guy on WB who is probably the most uncomfortable answering this, right? ;-)

 * I hate to criticize a book for being religious, because that's a fine line I walk myself. In Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book I do try to maintain NPOV and stay off the soapbox, but sometimes I think I get pretty close, and some might argue that it's a line I cross.  When it's unavoidable I try to couch my words in terms of "the Adventist Church teaches..."

 * I don't think I proselytize (on WB), but sometimes it's hard to tell when you're the one doing it. Wikibooks also has the Biblical Studies books, including commentaries on various books of the Bible. I would not want to jeopardize those by supporting the deletion of another book.  The writers of those works do try to maintain NPOV as well.

 * And with all that said... "There is only one highway to true happiness and peace in life and that is Self-Knowledge." (front page). I haven't read beyond the first page, but if stuff like this pervades the rest of the book, it would be pretty difficult to NPOV-ate it.  It does clearly need some work.  I would struggle to decide to support or argue against deletion.  --Jomegat (talk) 04:23, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

 * I will admit that I sought you out for the very reason that you're editing a major book with ties to a religious group and thus have gained experience reconciling Wikibooks policies/guidelines with the creation of a book on religion. I am a poor judge on books relating to religion myself and would also be unable to make a decision were this book to come up in a VfD discussion.  Thanks for your input.  I will leave it and hope that my placing of it in a category that exists brings some contributors who can improve it. -- Adrignola talk contribs 15:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

It's all text
I just installed the "It's all text" addon for firefox and wanted to try it out. I'm editing this message in gvim. --Jomegat (talk) 15:05, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * First I tried configuring IAT with /usr/bin/vim, but that no worky, as plain old vim assumes you have an xterm of some sort and will not create one anew. FF doesn't care for that too much, and I had to kill it.  So I installed gvim which spawns its own term.  That worky good!  All is happiness now. --Jomegat (talk) 15:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Though I need to turn off line wrapping now. --Jomegat (talk) 15:12, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I added  to my   file. That didn't seem to work though!
 * Maybe  is what I need? I need to type some more text and see if it wraps.  Nope! no wrappy!  That's just what I wanted!

Orphaned pages
Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Biblical Leaders, Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Insect/Honey bee, and Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Music clefs are not linked from or trancluded by any pages. I was wondering what should be done with them. -- Adrignola talk contribs 18:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I took care of them. The first had been broken into five pages.  The second had been renamed Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Insect/Apis, and the last was misnamed when it was created (should have been Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Music/Clefs.  Thanks for pointing this out! --Jomegat (talk) 00:10, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

My reviewer request
Hi Jomegat: Please consider supporing my request to become a reviewer. Moby-Dick4000 (talk) 20:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

IP Address
My IP address at the school is... --67.142.161.36 (talk) 01:09, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Restriction of image uploads
AKA "Avoid the duplication of efforts with Commons" AKA "Free Wikibooks images from Wikibooks" :) Have you been satisfied with the replies enough to change you position or have you any other reason to oppose the change ? (Please restate you position here, Thanks...) --Panic (talk) 02:54, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

My reviewer request
Hi Jomegat: Please consider supporing my request to become a reviewer. Moby-Dick4000 (talk) 00:59, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Zombies
You deleted my book on Zombies because you thought it was spam or vandalism that was not the case whatsoever. How can i start a new book on Zombies or if i can't then i'll try a different subject. Seabanks (talk) 22:14, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * (just jumping in Jomegat, hope that's ok)
 * Hello Seabanks. The deletion reason is a standard one. I can see the page wasn't spam or vandalism. The book did not, however, look like it fitted with the guidelines of this project. Wikibooks is for textbooks - instructional manuals basically. A book on the history of belief in zombies, or their role in culture or religion would be okay. What you had written was more like a brief description of a zombie character in a computer game. I've placed a series of links on your talk page - check these out as they tell you what is suitable for WB. Thanks. Unusual? Quite TalkQu 22:19, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey QU - no problem jumping in. I deleted it because I thought it was nonsense (the standard reason I chose was nonsense, spam, or vandalism).  Take a look at What is Wikibooks to see the type of content we allow here.  If you can make a case that a book on Zombies would fit here, I'd be happy to listen.  But I think it would be a difficult case to make.  I hope my deletion of your work doesn't start us off on the wrong foot! --Jomegat (talk) 22:23, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Simple Wikijunior?
A more simpiler version of Wikijunior for kids there is allready a simple english wikibooks so i dont see why there cant be a simple english wikijunior? Seabanks (talk) 00:23, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

 * An idea like that would be better proposed in the Reading Room rather than here, as it will get a wider audience there. But I honestly don't see the need for a simpler version of Wikijunior.  It already features some pretty simple texts, such as Wikijunior:Alphabet, Wikijunior:Animal Alphabet, and Wikijunior:Numbers from 1 to 20.  Wikibooks is something relatively new, and it was not discussed on Wikibooks before it was created.  As such, it is really beyond my sphere of knowledge and influence. Please keep thinking about Wikibooks though.  I know I may have discouraged you, but I really do value new ideas.  Sometimes you can't tell if an idea is crazy or clever until you share it with someone else.  Also, sometimes crazy ideas spark clever ideas in others.  So keep them coming!  And if you do want to create a simple Wikijunior text, I say go for it.  Just remember that it should be non-fiction and educational. --Jomegat (talk) 02:48, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikijunior:Nazi Germany
i added this and cleanup is needed. 72.73.125.14 (talk) 14:56, 27 October 2009 (UTC) thought maybe you could help? 72.73.125.14 (talk) 14:56, 27 October 2009 (UTC) ty. 72.73.125.14 (talk) 14:56, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * What sort of help are you looking for? (I don't have the time to write a book on Nazi Germany). --Jomegat (talk) 16:39, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Who could I ask for help with this? Or where can i post an announment? 71.254.103.209 (talk) 02:50, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless I'm mistaken, you already announced it in the Reading room/Projects. That's as good a place as any.  You should not be surprised that no one has jumped in and helped just yet.  Wikibooks is a much smaller project than Wikipedia, and most of the contributors here have their own projects they are working on.  It could be that no one who is interested in your topic has come along yet.  Your best bet is to keep adding content, and understand that you may very well be the one who ends up writing nearly all of it. If you know of an online community with an interest in this topic, recruit them to help.  The regulars at Wikibooks will be happy to help with formatting as the text develops.  Read Using Wikibooks for tips on organizing the book.  It would also be a good idea for you to register an account and be logged in when you edit.  Having an account actually makes you more anonymous, since only a few admins (Check Users) can see your ip address (from which your location can be roughly established).  It also gives your input greater weight and better integrates you into the WB community. --Jomegat (talk) 03:00, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

IP Addr check
checking my ip addy from CCS.
 * --67.142.168.21 (talk) 22:01, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * --67.142.168.21 (talk) 22:02, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * --67.142.168.139 (talk) 00:17, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * --67.142.168.145 (talk) 12:56, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * --67.142.168.146 (talk) 20:23, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * --67.142.168.138 (talk) 17:04, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Braiding
Hey Jomegat... I was working on the braiding page and added some pictures for illustrations, but I really don't know how to format anything on wikimedia. So the page looks like a mess now, even though I'm sure it would be fine with some formatting. Anyways, I have a couple more to add but I don't feel like making more mess. (I was also having trouble with logging in and so now I guess I have two usernames... Elspeth is the one I prefer though.) --Elspeth (talk) 00:07, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Rachel,
 * I did a little formatting for you. Nice work.  It's a lot easier for me to clean up the formatting than it is to research the honors, so go ahead and make a big mess!  I will be happy to clean it up.  It's so nice to have people add pictures and instruction for things that I know so little about.  Also, there might be a way to consolidate your two accounts, but I'm not sure.  I'd hafta ask one of the bureaucrats. --Jomegat (talk) 04:21, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

File:Unknown track 9738.jpg
So, ever identify this picture and what about File:Unknown track 9739.jpg as well? -- Adrignola talk contribs 01:21, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yup. 9738 was made by a bobcat, and 9739 was made by a deer mouse.  I can't find them on the commons, so I must not have ever uploaded them there.  But we can delete them from here at any rate. --Jomegat (talk) 01:45, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

File:Jomegat.jpg
Would you have an objection to this being moved to Commons as part of the file migration process? -- Adrignola talk contribs 21:58, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * If they allow that I wouldn't mind. Do they still require uploads to have educational value?  Seems like they did at one point.  I was never sure if me hanging out on a boulder in a river would qualify. --Jomegat (talk) 22:34, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, I've learned something about photography since I uploaded that photo. Nice the way all the whites are blown out.  Maybe I could find something different in my archive instead.  The only problem with that is that I didn't take most of the pictures I have that feature me! --Jomegat (talk) 22:36, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * They do still require educational value but make an exception for a limited number of files used on user pages. See commons:Template:Userpageimage for their wording. -- Adrignola talk contribs 13:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. Migrate away! --Jomegat (talk) 13:45, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Typo ?
On "Distinguishing between good and bad books" is quite == quit ? Darklama also seems to word it like that am I missing some nuance ? --Panic (talk) 05:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it should have been quit (and I fixed mine). Dunno if dl copy-paste-edited mine or if he managed to make the same mistake I did.  Funny thing is, I noticed it in his comment, but not in mine! Thanks for pointing it out. --Jomegat (talk) 13:37, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

User: 168.8.148.20
Seems a one-day block doesn't stop this joker; better give him something a bit longer. Chazz (talk) 18:00, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Upped it to three months. My guess is that this is a school IP.  Three months will get us through the spring term. --Jomegat (talk) 18:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned page
Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Natural dyes is orphaned, meaning it has no in-page links to it (excluding categories). As part of my cleanup tasks I'm trying to find an appropriate home for as many of these pages as possible. If you can find an appropriate place to link to this page from the help would be appreciated. Xerol Oplan (talk) 04:46, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for finding that and pointing it out. I had a syntax problem in the page that was supposed to transclude it.  It has been reunited with its parent and all is well. --Jomegat (talk) 12:40, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Note on vandalism
You no longer have to delete the page entirely to remove revisions. See w:Wikipedia:Revision deletion. – Adrignola talk contribs 00:04, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip! --Jomegat (talk) 00:30, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

User:91.194.220.7
Consistent vandalization. --Panic (talk) 12:45, 24 June 2010 (UTC) With strange interaction with User:91.194.220.8. Kids at school ? --Panic (talk) 12:49, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up. I guess I had just left when you wrote this note, so I didn't see it until now.  I applied a 3-month block. That's usually enough to get us through a term. --Jomegat (talk) 16:50, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

User:202.65.121.162
Math hater, warning or small block (all edits on the same day) some clear vandalism. --Panic (talk) 04:25, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikibooks involvement
I was going through the stats, and noticed you have ~20,000 edits on wikibooks. I was wondering where you got them all as I don't remember seeing you around much. Was it just from working on the Pathfinder's book? Arlen22 (talk) 22:50, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, mostly. My activity has dropped off lately, though I do check my watch list four or five times per day. Back in the day I would work on my book every evening for three or four hours.  That pace continued for about three years, maybe four.  Then I started running out of honors for which I could summon competence, and then I started running out of honors that I could easily gain competence.  It's a slog to finish, but I do make the occasional non-maintenance edit to my book.  Most of my activity is RC patrol any more, though there are a few people here who are on seemingly round the clock.  --Jomegat (talk) 23:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book in spanish
Hello Arod7,

Thanks for your interest in translating Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book. It would probably be better if you created the translation on a Spanish-language wiki, such as http://es.wikibooks.org - that way you could import all the work from the English version to the Spanish version preserving the edit histories of each module (that is a requirement of the license). Import is something that can probably only be done by an administrator though - I don't know what policies they have in place at es.wikibooks.org. If I can be of any assistance, please do not hesitate to leave me a note (either here or on my talk page). --Jomegat (talk) 01:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Hello, I'm new here and I need some help. I would like to translate Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book to spanish because there are not much reliable sources in spanish. I went to http://es.wikibooks.org but the formatting code is in spanish and I have to relearn the little of code that I know. I thought that it would be faster and easier if I did it here. If you can help me contact an administrator to see if the import can be done I would apreciate it very much. Thank you
 * The problem with doing it here is that it will be a likely candidate for deletion. The only non-English works they allow here are books about how to speak a non-English language.  Also, it's not really possible to copy a chapter here along with its edit history as is required by the license.  Getting the edit history over to the es site should be pretty simple - it's a matter of importing the text.  It might be a good idea to ask for help in the Reading room.  I don't know how they operate at es.wikibooks.org, but maybe someone here does. I'd poke around the es site, but since I don't know Spanish :-( I don't think I'd be very successful.  --Jomegat (talk) 03:41, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Reviewer
I'm not objecting to the action only to your rational. This particular user has been on the system for ~5 days (in volume this particular user hasn't been notorious, even if all have been productive edits). If people are granted the tools just on a simple request it seems reasonable that people should also have to demonstrate a need for bypassing the automatic promotion, if not only as an egalitarian balance for editors as the tools can serve to exert editorial control. --Panic (talk) 02:39, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * You make some good points. I will certainly take that into consideration next time. --Jomegat (talk) 02:41, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Supposedly User:Tannertsf is the recent incarnation of the user's former account (see User talk:Kayau), User:Tannersf, so they might not be so new after all. However, if that is the case, they should mark the former account as a declared sock or retired. – Adrignola talk 03:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Bureaucrat
Would you accept a nomination for Bureaucrat? I have my concerns about Thenub314, and thought of you. If you don't feel like you want to, that is fine, of course; I have others who I can ask. -Arlen22 (talk) 14:20, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * On second thought, I am asking a more active user, but if you want to, you can nominate yourself, of course. -Arlen22 (talk) 14:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I mean active in the Reading Room. -Arlen22 (talk) 14:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for thinking of me, but I would not accept 'cratship. --Jomegat (talk) 15:07, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

revert at Blender 3D: Noob to Pro/Navigation in 3D
Thanks for helping with the wikibook. I updated the link to the previous module because I took Blender 3D: Noob to Pro/Other Windows out of the core sequence with this edit. Your revert breaks the new sequence. How shall we proceed? --Stepheng3 (talk) 06:14, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Stephan. I don't know what to say. :-/  I have undone the revert, but I honestly do not remember doing the revert in the first place.  I must have hit the wrong link by accident last night.  My apologies.  I have been nothing but impressed with your work on Blender over the past week or so. --Jomegat (talk) 12:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the undo. Since I'm new to Wikibooks, I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something important.  There's a lot of work still on B3D:N2P.  Can I come to you for advice in the future? --Stepheng3 (talk) 19:16, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I will be happy to provide whatever advice I can. I'm not always the best person to ask, but I'll do my best to help you.  I was thinking that it might be a good idea to turn on the reviewer rights on your account though so your edits can show up right away.  It normally happens automatically, but sometimes it takes a while. Let me know if you're interested in having that feature.  And again, I apologize for the rollback.  I still don't know how I managed to do that. --Jomegat (talk) 01:54, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries about the rollback.
 * User:Adrignola granted me reviewer rights a couple days ago, so I'm good there. (But thanks for your confidence in me.)
 * What I most need right now is someone to sanity-check my ideas for this book. As far as I know, I'm the only person actively working on it.  I'm unsure how to balance the vision and hard work of past editors without against my own desire to rewrite, reorganize, and clarify everything in sight.  I wish I knew more of the book's history.  If you're not the right person to advise me, could you suggest someone? --Stepheng3 (talk) 05:54, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * One of the guiding principles at WB is to be bold. That's the only way established books can be improved.  I looked through the history of the front page and found that User:Spiderworm was the primary contributor.  That user hasn't edited since 2007 though.  Most of the activity on the book between then and your arrival has been vandalism/counter-vandalism, and minor tweaks to adjust version changes in Blender.  IMO, your recent major efforts there make you the new "owner".  Maybe that's not as much help as you wanted. :-(  My other advice is to start a section at Reading room/Projects.  You can either describe what you are doing, or ask for feedback on what you intend to do.  If someone here is interested enough, they will chime in.  If not... well that's kinda sad, but it pretty much gives you free reign.  --Jomegat (talk) 13:36, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, thanks. After two years of being bold in the Wikipedia hothouse, I'm accustomed to lots of feedback:  either proactive discussion on a project talk page or (more often) a bold-revert-delete event.  (That's why I was intrigued by your revert.)  I'll do as you suggest in the reading room.  Thanks again. --Stepheng3 (talk) 15:08, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

 * <TPS> To find out the regular contributors of the Blender book, click on this link. Kayau (talk | email | contribs) 14:26, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * That points to User:Beuc. I shall go and introduce myself. --Stepheng3 (talk) 15:08, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Scrabble
Hi! I noticed your work on the Scrabble wikibook. Being the book's initial author, I thought I'd drop by and say thanks. I'm only a mostly-self-taught amateur at the game, but it looks like you have considerable experience with Scrabble. Feel free to remove/change anything I've written that isn't correct or accurate, especially in the strategy section (like Scrabble/Playing the Q, your "alternate strategy" seems more logical than what I had written). Cheers. :-) Tempodivalse 04:50, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for starting the book. Scrabble is hands-down my favorite board game, though I do not play it now as much as I used to.  I didn't remove your Q strategy because I think it is valid, especially for beginners.  Also, it can be hard to throw away a U when you haven't seen the Q yet.  But knowing QI and QAT certainly take the fear out of that move. --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 04:55, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I usually play Scrabble with the computer (Maven engine), but rarely in person. The machine tells me I have a rating of ~1250. It's one of my favourite games too, aside from chess. (WRT the Q without U, I didn't know QI was a word. I must be using an old dictionary. That certainly makes not keeping a U much easier.) Tempodivalse 05:13, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * QI is new in OSPD4. It was not there in OSPD3.  BTW, I usually play in person.  I may have had Maven at one time, but it was a long time ago (early 90's?).  I have no idea what my rating might be, but I'm sure I'm not a tournament-caliber player. --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 05:17, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Fdfdffdfdf* accounts
I blocked the underlying IP address for this guy for three months. It's a dynamic IP address, though, so if he gets a new one from his ISP, Special:Nuke will "nuke" any new pages he makes. – Adrignola discuss 13:09, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I was wishing for a "nuke" feature last night. Thanks.  He did prompt me to do something I have never done in the past though - rollback an edit to the sandbox!  I figured... why not?  --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 13:25, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Userlang template
The template's categorization system is confusing, in that entering 1 returns 5 and so forth. This revision (which I can't save because I'm not an administrator) fixes that while preventing anything but 1, 2, 3, 4, or N from being categorized.

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Thanks, Swfarnsworth (discuss • contribs) 17:52, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * You should post this message at Reading room/Administrative Assistance. I don't really have enough time at the moment to properly assess your changes.  Some other admin will probably be along shortly, and posting your request there should get their attention.  Otherwise, I'll look into it sometime tonight (i.e., in about seven hours). --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 18:28, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

 * The sort key corresponds to the sort order at Template:User language category, which was the way it was done at Meta when the system was brought in. It does it this way so that people can still use the higher number = more fluent system they're used to, while sorting the more fluent speakers earlier in the category for those who need to find the best speaker of a language they can. – Adrignola discuss 19:44, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Obviously, other templates would have to be changed as well. If changing the system would make Wikibooks inconsistent with Meta, then by all means, keep it as is. Then again... Swfarnsworth (discuss • contribs) 00:34, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry
Hey this is cactuscooler sorry but i did it again didnt read your message first.
 * Excellent. Thanks for responding.  I just want the Wikibook version of the requirements to be as close to the official version as possible, as many people might treat it as "gospel" and argue about which requirements are the correct ones.  We have no official sanction here.  When I find requirements that I feel are in error, I leave them as they are, but I add the  following markup:

 * replacing reason and proposed correction with words describing the problem and a possible solution. See Archery - Advanced for an example. --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 11:28, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

WCI conference 2011 : Would like to discuss a few things
Hello!

I will be delivering a Talk at the Wikimedia Conference India 2011 on the topic of "Accelerating Wikibooks".

Over the next few days, I aim to make the proposal more and more wholesome and relevant. I'd like to discuss with you about the proposal and hope you can recommend me a few names on Wikibooks with whom I can discuss this.

I'd be very happy if you could discuss the proposal at User:Thewinster/Accelerating_Wikibooks

--Thewinster (discuss • contribs) 08:17, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Summary of the proposal
This is not a summary of the final talk, only a tentative guideline.

 * Create Roadmaps for a book
 * Define Learning Outcomes
 * Annotate and Discuss new content available from around the web.
 * Minor tweaks and fixes which concentrate on crowdsourcing.
 * Identifying Small Contribution that advance a book and designing good UIs and triggers according to B.J. Fogg's Behavior Change Model, 8 Step Design Process. The paper can be found here at Persuasive Design : Eight Step Process by B. J. Fogg

IP Users and A Bit History of Internet/Chapter 7 : Cloud-computing
You'll notice that I blocked Special:Contributions/115.132.119.68 because the user continued to remove the copyright notices. Since then I have noticed another IP editing the A Bit History of Internet/Chapter 6 : Peer-to-peer page. The edits here don't seem to be copyright violations but it seemed odd that 2 IPs were editing the same book at a similar time (unless its part of a school project or something). A quick check shows that both IP addresses are Malaysian. Not sure if I'll be around later today but keep an eye out for strange behaviour in that book.--ЗAНИA talk 17:18, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. My guess is that it's a class project.  That of course does not give them license to violate copyright. --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 21:24, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Nature/Birds
Sorry for approving the edit which changed ostrich to owl. I did a quick check on online Bibles and noticed owl but obviously it depeneds on the version one looks at.--ЗAНИA talk 21:11, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. "Owl" seemed reasonable, and I could easily imagine that some translators would have chosen that instead of "ostrich."I'm pretty sure I was the one who added "ostrich", and I would not have thought to check multiple translations then.  I think it's better this way, as it should prevent an edit war.  Thanks for the attention - it is greatly appreciated.  --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 21:36, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

hello Jim
I know your busy as I can see but if you have anytime to help me on any of my books it would be much appreciated, but you don't have to just a thought. Thank you for your time. --Fdena (discuss • contribs) 15:50, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * What sort of help do you need? I might be able to lend a hand. --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 15:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * A Guide To Boston, A Guide To Massachusetts, and Dogs are my books so far, if you could do anything to spruce them up a little that would great plus i'll make more books also. Thanks. --Fdena (discuss • contribs) 15:54, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I could help you with specific questions, but adding content is another matter.  Also, I'm not very good a layout and design.  Good luck with your books though, and I do hope you enjoy your work here. --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 15:57, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That's okay no problem and thank you. --Fdena (discuss • contribs) 16:00, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry to bother you again Jim, but I was just wondering I want to start a book on Steve Nash he is a well known basketball player, is this to encyclopedic or could I start it? Thank you for your time. --Fdena (discuss • contribs) 16:53, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It might be too encyclopedic. However, if you created Wikijunior:Steve Nash as a biography directed at children, you could probably pull that off.  --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 16:56, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Page Creation
Thank you for your help. I'm new at this wiki stuff. So if I add / at the beginning and end of new page names, they will be children of that page, correct? And I need to add the Category tag on each page.Aikidave (discuss • contribs) 21:01, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, the leading slash makes the page a child of the page that calls it out. The trailing slash suppresses the display of the parent page.  I had already noted that you were adding  to your new pages.  That will automatically add a page to the book it belongs to.  Last time I checked, your book's category was a red link.  Read the Subjects, Categories, and Classifications chapter of Using Wikibooks for an explanation of what to do there.  If you need any other help, don't hestitate to leave me a note, or leave one in the Reading room.  --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 23:21, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Hannahkell12
Just a note of passing interest. Just as this user has vandalized the Wikibooks main page talk in the same way at about the same way on the 6th and the 4th, they also vandalized the Wikinews main page talk in that same way, also at about the same time of day as here, on the 6th and the 5th. --Pi zero (discuss • contribs) 23:23, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * all character names from a British soap opera. How odd QU TalkQu 23:29, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The account was locked at Meta. – Adrignola discuss 00:58, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the head's up. I didn't know about the other activity. No more warnings from me for that particular misdeed. --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 01:29, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Pirates
is this a okay wikibook to start? thank you. --Fdena (discuss • contribs) 18:48, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * See What is Wikibooks. It's hard to tell from what you have, but it looks like it might be interpreted as an entry in a children's encyclopedia rather than as a textbook. --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 18:53, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Transwiki
Now that I have the flag I tried to satisfy the request of Mljiao for the page Amazon.com to be used in the book Strategy for Information Markets. It reports "Import failed: Could not open import file", I'm guessing that it is one of those cases indicated. "Pages with extremely long edit histories may fail to import." Can you verify if it is true (I've attempted several times now, as indicated). Since it was my first attempt to perform an import, I'm guessing that to complete it we have to unselected the "Copy all history revisions for this page". --Panic (discuss • contribs) 21:55, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Fails for me too. Try importing just one revision (I'll leave it to you!) QU TalkQu 22:21, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks. Is this very common ? One other thought, it would be extremely interesting if the import was also reflected on the source page edit history. Is there a simple way to know what pages have been "exported" out of Wikibooks ? --Panic (discuss • contribs) 22:30, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That error occurs more often than not. I don't know of a way to find out if a work has been exported, but it would be a cool thing to know.  OTOH, it might put a damper on exporting.  You might be surprised how many sites out there mirror WB. --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 02:01, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately that error seems to occur more often than not even when the import is successful, sometimes the software just takes awhile to register that the import was a success in the import log. --dark lama  15:01, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Parallel Spectral Numerical Methods
Thanks for your help with the wikibook Parallel Spectral Numerical Methods. Have finished uploading most of the initial material. Any suggestions on formatting would be appreciated. Benson Muite (discuss • contribs) 07:25, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Wrong: Table 1 - Atmospheric attenuation coefficient (dB/km) at selected frequencies at 1 atm
Even at "Engineering Acoustics/Outdoor Sound Propagation": At low temperatures are wrong figures. 77.186.26.192 (discuss) 08:23, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * So fix it! I'm not sure why you're telling me, as I couldn't find where I had ever edited that page. --Jomegat (discuss • contribs) 11:07, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You weren't the only one! QuiteUnusual (discuss • contribs) 14:40, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

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Zulu/Exercise/Lesson 2

Welcome to the exercises related to Lesson 2.

Click "▼" to check your answers.

Where do you live?
How would you respond to: (Assume for these questions that your name is Sipho Tshabala and that you're a doctor who works at Johannesburg Hospital, in Johannesburg. But you come from Durban.)

Fill in the missing letters.

Spot the error.

Professions and Places
Translate the following Zulu sentences into English:

Translate the following English sentences into Zulu:

Odd one out:

Fill in the blanks

Spot the error. Fill in the blanks

Dialogue
Try translating the following dialogue:

Next steps

 * If you would like, review this lesson: Lesson 2
 * Otherwise, continue to the next lesson: Lesson 3

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Talk:XQuery/Displaying data in HTML Tables

I believe I have fixed the bug of coloring based on document order. - Dan --Dmccreary (talk) 19:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


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User talk:Ilangocal~enwikibooks

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Ilangocal. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Ilangocal~enwikibooks that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:14, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 05:03, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

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Physics with Calculus/Mechanics/Gravity

It may seem obvious that gravity is both the force that makes objects fall and makes planets orbit, but the fact that gravity explains both of these motions only goes back to Isaac Newton in the 17th century. He showed that the acceleration of a falling object and the acceleration of the moon in its orbit can both be explained by an attractive force acting between any two objects given by

$$ F = -\frac{GMm}{r^2} $$

where $$M$$ and $$m$$ are the masses of the two objects, $$r$$ is the distance between them, and G is a fundamental constant, later measured to be equal to $$6.67 \times 10^{-11} Nm^2/kg^2$$. The minus sign indicates that gravity is attractive.

One interesting feature of gravity is that the gravitational mass, $$m$$, that appears above is quantitatively identical to the inertial mass that appears in $$F=ma$$. Albert Einstein noted this coincidence and it led him to the most successful current theory of gravity known as General Relativity. Although gravity may seem simple, at a fundamental level we still do not yet understand it. General Relativity is incompatible with the quantum theory of elementary particles known as the standard model. Many physicists have attempted to build a quantum theory of gravity, but neither a coherent theory nor experimentally verifiable predictions have yet been obtained. Newton's theory of gravity which we study in this course remains as a powerful tool for predicting the motion of objects with sizes between galaxies and atoms, which includes most objects of everyday relevance on earth. In Newton's theory, gravity is simply a property of matter that causes each mass to attract every other mass with the force given above.

Gravity is a conservative force, which means that the work done moving a small mass from one point to another depends only on the end points, and not the path taken. I will demonstrate this with a single point mass. With this result, it is almost obvious that the force from any arrangement of mass will also be conservative. To see this, note that the gravitational force is the sum of the parts and that work done by one force is the sum of the work done by its parts. Thus, when at test particle is moved through an arrangement of particles exerting gravitational force, if the work done by each of them depends only on the end points, then the sum depends only on the endpoints, which is what we wanted to show. Now, consider a single particle of mass M at the origin, and a test particle of mass m moving from A to B. To simplify calculations, assume that the path connecting A and B lies in the xy plane, although the argument will easily but rather tediously extended to 3 dimensions. Now, it is easier to work in polar coordinates.

When the particle moves a small distance ds, the work done is done only by the force acting in the r direction and thus only movement in the r direction matters. Since this holds exactly for small distances, it holds for large distances and the work done can only depend on how the particle moves in r. That is, we may neglect $$\theta$$. Now, if the particle moves a small distance dr one direction then a little while later, at the same radius, in the other direction, the work cancels out because both the force and displacement are the same. That means that work is independent of the path and gravity is conservative!

Since gravity is conservative, you can see that we can define a function of position such that the work done from moving from a to b is just this function at a minus the function at b. Such a function is called the potential energy -- the same potential energy you already know! If instead we remove it one step, and divide by the mass m, then we have a function that is independent of the particle in question and we call it the potential. Now, it would be useful to see some properties of potential.

First of all, the defining quality of potential, $$\phi(\mathbf{r})$$ is that if you move a particle of mass m from a point a to a point b along any path, then the work done is

$$m\phi(a) - m\phi(b)$$.

Now, to find the other important property of potential, consider moving a particle of mass m a little bit, $$d\mathbf{r} = (dx, dy, dz)$$ in a force field F. The work done by going in the x direction is

$$ -m(\phi(x + dx, y, z) - \phi(x,y,z)) = F_x dx $$

with similar expressions for y and z.

Dividing by dx and letting dx go to zero, we have,

$$ F_x = m \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial x}$$ which just means take the derivative of $$\phi$$ treating y and z as constants.

If we do the same thing for y and z, we have

$$ F = m (\frac{\partial \phi}{\partial x}, \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial y}, \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial z}) = \nabla \phi$$.

The upside down triangle is just shorthand for the first expression.

This is amazing -- all the information about the force, a vector, is contained in a scalar. Three components for the price of one. The reason we can do this is because we know that the force is conservative, as you can see, that greatly restricts the number of possible fields. In the case of one dimension, you can see that the force is the derivative of the potential energy. In fact, the gradient (the name for taking the partial derivatives with respect to each variable and putting them into a vector) is one generalization of a derivative to many dimensions.

It is now easy to see one final important property of potential, that it is unique up to an additive constant. If you added a function depending on any of the variables, then at least one of the partial derivatives would not be zero and you would get a different force. But if you add any constant, you get the same force because the derivative of a constant is zero.

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