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Sorry
Dear Herbythyme,

I was just copying what the other similar pages had in them: links about the source of information where people could find more info if they wanted. I was trying to complete the page as much as I could. Because the other pages had that sort of link, to similar sites I used; I thought it was what Wikibooks wanted. I won't add any kind of links at all in the future. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by World-food-and-wine.com (talk • contribs) 00:42, 1 Dec 2006 (UTC)

Lost?
Hi Herbythyme,

I am new to this. How did you send me a message? How should I reply... I am lost.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brileigh (talk • contribs) 10:02, 1 Dec 2006 (UTC)

Csn we chat on irc?Brileigh 10:36, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I do not want to get too deeply involved in the machination of Wikibooks, but I think I can contribute to the DataPerfect book. Do you need to work collaboratively, if so how?Brileigh 10:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Sysopbot
Did you notice my votes? :)

I agree with you, not on the IRC thing (that shouldn't be a place for policy debate IMO), but on the need for discussion. It's something we should consider (and the RFA is an interesting way to bring it up), but needs careful consideration. if it works the way it should, it would be a major asset. If it worked in any other way it would be a serious liability. -- SB_Johnny | talk 22:35, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Tnx
Hi Herby,

Your comments are most appreciated and help me out a lot! Tnx.. Don't go to hard on me though, this wiki-stuff is all new to me :-). Keep posting usefull comments.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rikvanvelzen (talk • contribs) 13:42, 3 Dec 2006  (UTC)
 * Maybe you could help me on this one as well (instead of me looking for hours figuring out how to do it): Q. If I type 'Chronic Fatigue Syndrom' in the [search] box (at the left) "my" wikibook doesn't come up. What is the way to let it come up at search results? And is ther a way to enter keywords like for example embodiment, cfs, etc. to the book so when anybody searches on one of them the wikibook will come up at the search results?-- Rik
 * Great!!! Tnx man..?-- Rik

Category Help
Thanks for the tip Herby. I'll go through and do that as soon as I get a chance. Jguk had gone through all of "my" pages three or four months ago and added it that way, so I continued the tradition. I didn't really care for the way it grouped everything under "A" though, so I'm really glad you pointed this out. Thanks again! Jim Thomas 15:48, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

 * If you can do it quickly with software, then by all means, please do. I just wanted to spare you of the drudgery of doing a menial (and somewhat large) task.

 * Hi Herby. Yes, it would probably be wise to include the welcome template when I welcome my contributors.  I'll do that next time.  I have asked WK for his edit bot code - is that the same code your edit bot is based upon?

 * Ugh. I don't do Windows.  WK's bot is perl-based, while AWB is C#-based.  Sounds like they're not the same thing.  Thanks anyway.  Jim Thomas 14:49, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Hi Herby. Two of my contributors have been working very hard this week, and they have outlined the requirements for all the honors that have been officially published by the Pathfinders organization.  The only red links in my book now are for honors that were approved in 2006 but not published.  That means it's time to pull the trigger on the Category editing bot.  Would you?  Basically, I'd like to have  added to the bottom of every honor that doesn't already have it.  Thanks in advance. Jim Thomas 03:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Can you run the Category bot on the pages contributed by Rodney East too? There are also a few anonymous contribs from 24.15.132.65. Jim Thomas 18:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Checkuser on you
Herby, would you be offended if a checkuser was run on you and your IPs "just in case"?

I'm only asking because you were around when we had that very strange thing happen on wikipedia's CVU (I'm sure you know what I mean).

Also wondering what you think about making a policy of always running checkuser on RfA nominees... seems to me it's something that's harmless enough, but in the worst case could prevent a major mistake from happening! -- SB_Johnny | talk 18:45, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Some feedback on the "idea" of communicating
I'm not sure what you mean... you're talking about the use of "the staff account"? I guess I don't really see how you plan on using it :). In some ways I think we might need a "wikiproject" for the active people to talk to each other, but we kinda use the staff lounge for that now. How would it be different if we were doing that in the user space?

Sounds like another "perfectly good half-cocked idea... we do have a lot in common, eh? -- SB_Johnny | talk 18:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

RFA
Why did you suspend your RFA? --Derbeth talk 19:39, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Uh, yeah....my question too. Derbeth was going to give you the tools, and then you "suspended" the RFA. Wake up and smell the fucking coffee herby... things don't happen fast on wikibooks, and hopefully never will. Your checkuser went through just fine: no worries (I didn't think there would be worries, but you and I know things that most wikibookians don't).

 * You're wanted, and needed, as an admin. You're a big voice in a small community, and we value what you have to say. We need someone like you to help with the admin tasks, for reasons you of all people know.

 * You're going to be a sysop, as soon as you accept it. When you become a sysop, you should comport youself to be as you think sysops should be. No melodramas, no flights of fancy, no acting against your best instincts. Stop fucking around, stop doubting yourself, and help us make wikibooks the place we want it to be. -- SB_Johnny | talk 22:49, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I didn't even see the "suspended" note, so you are now a sysop anyway. Sorry I was away for so long, I had an emergency this weekend, and was away for several days. Either way, congratulations. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 02:08, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Good to see you with the sysop rights. --Derbeth talk 14:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Editors/Staff
I've seen that list that you have compiled about active contributors. I think this is a great list, and we should definately send messages to these users. Let's brain storm on precisely what we should say to try and get their interest? If we could just get all new users to watch the bulletin board, and then if we could post important messages there (or ask other users to post messages concerning their own books), that would be a great benefit to us. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 03:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Also, as an addendum, perhaps we could improve the welcome template to mention the bulletin board, and suggest that all new users add it to their watchlist. Maybe we can ask the developers to add the bulletin board to the watchlist of all new users by default? --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 03:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi
Hi. Are you on IRC? Cheers, Unforgettableid 08:58, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I liked the changes I made to the main page. Why didn't you? Cheers, Unforgettableid 09:00, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Revert
As I got no response I am reverting to a midway compromise which is less different but still reads better and smoother than the original. Try reading both the old and the new versions out loud in your head and see. Cheers, Unforgettableid 09:08, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

OK
Makes sense. I'll leave it as the compromise version for now, though feel free to revert again. (It would be nice if you give specific criticism though, e.g. saying what you don't like :-)) If nobody complains, I hope to advance it to my new fully-sloganized version in the future. Cheers, Unforgettableid 09:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Reply

 * Contribution appreciated - don't let me put you off, just urging some caution -- Herby talk thyme 09:13, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the warning. :) You're right - a full forwards change would be reverted soon -- if not by you, then by one of the other RC patrollers. Unforgettableid 09:15, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

reply

 * Yes, I'm w:user:unforgettableid Unforgettableid 09:16, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

reply 3
Good joke - other RC patrollers!! -- Herby talk thyme 09:16, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * :-) Unforgettableid 09:43, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

My Bot, your bot
I'm sure there are plenty of other bots and programs out there that do what my bot does. I wrote it mostly as an experiment to prove that I can do it, and now that I have it I have grown quite accustomed to the way it works. I Am going to download AWB soonish (probably), and give that a spin to see how it works. Maybe I can increase my productivity a little?

If you want an "Herbybot" account to receive the bot flag, you do have to apply on RFA. As much as I would like to, I can't just hand out the flag to every bot unilaterally, because that would be an abuse of my power. Flooding the RC list isn't really a big problem, necessarily, especially if it is the RC patrollers who are doing it. If you would prefer to have the bot flag anyway, put in a nomination, and you will probably get it. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 13:31, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I downloaded AWB, and I played with it a little bit. It is an impressive tool, I will certainly admit that. I'm not sure i'm entirely comfortable with it (it has some "features" that I dont like), and I'm also upset that the IRC patroller can't be set to monitor #en.wikibooks (not yet, anyway). Eventually I will pull out my hex editor and "force it" to look at that channel, but I dont have the time for that kind of nonsense now. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 22:37, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

The Sims
I noticed you deleted The Sims. However since its the front page of a book, I noticed you forgot to delete all its subpages and talk pages too. There might even be templates that need to be deleted and associated category. I'd also remove all references to The Sims as well from other pages, like bookshelves and alphabetical listings, etc. So there's actually queit a bit more to do when deleting a book here. --dark lama  13:45, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

 * You can use Special:Prefixindex/The Sims to find what you need for the main pages and switch namespace to Talk for talk pages. I'd also check the What links here links and check "edit this page" if it looks like it might be using a template to see what the name is and check if it can be safely deleted by checking the what links here for it. If its only the book your deleting that uses it, I'd delete it as well. Sometimes books use images too that are only used in that book. I tend to delete them as well, especially for strategy guides, since there no use here. What images to delete is a judgement call though. Its better to keep if your unsure. --dark [[Image:Yin yang.svg|12px]] lama 13:55, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I hope you haven't forgotten to take care of this. Yes I'm letting you do it, if for no other reasons because you started to and so you can get a feel how to delete an entire book. --dark lama  08:17, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

qr-dup and page duplications
I also just want to mention before you start deleting pages marked with qr-dup or delete because of duplication, that it might be better to check into merging pages rather then deleting them.

Most cases of duplication are probably going to be due to copy+paste jobs because the person didn't know how to move and will be an orphaned page. Check the edit histories to see if at some point they were identical. Only delete the orphaned page if the copy was made by the same person and the orphaned page has no other contributors but this person (other then the adding of a tag to have it deleted). In other words orphaned pages which have more then one contributor or in which the copy was not done by the original author shouldn't be deleted. Instead the orphaned page should be merged into the other page, in order to preserve edit histories as required by the GFDL. If you do this don't forget to follow some good advice in the MediaWiki Administrator's Handbook to make sure you correctly restore the page as it was before the merger. --dark lama  14:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I might think of some other things, but thats it for now, other then suggesting you come to our IRC channel to chat and to vent some steam. Which is a good place to do this. :) I'm there right now in fact. --dark [[Image:Yin yang.svg|12px]] lama  15:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Unblocking
Go to Special:Ipblocklist, and you'll see the "unblock" option at the end of each listing. -- SB_Johnny | talk 15:32, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
 * - you can find "exploitable server" in "SORBS-WEB". I am always sceptical with results of this check (see what does this tool say about your own IP, this will make you not trust it completely). I only block for a long time when there are more than 5 serious (red) reports. If the IP is from "strange" country or has a long history of vandalisms with no normal edits, I use longer blocks, and for the US I block rather shortly (two weeks is a maximum), unless it is certain that the host is zombie or something. When the tool shows "open proxy", I always block IP infinitely or for two years if I have any doubts.
 * If you have problems with assessing whether the IP belongs to a vandal/spammer, check Wikipedia page with contributions from it. Wikipedia admins often leave notes on the talk page saying that the IP belongs to a school (schould not be blocked for a long time) or it is an open proxy. --Derbeth talk 15:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, and by the way, you could put a notice on your userpage (in form of userbox or just plain text) informing your are an admin. --Derbeth talk 09:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Just fine. --Derbeth talk 20:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the "Unsolved archive" module
Herby, the VfD is on the talk page. Cheers, Iamunknown 16:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Removing Spam
I didn't look at the main page just the talk page. I just thought any external advertising links should be removed regardless of what is on the main page. Maybe I'll take a look now. Xania 20:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

When Domains are not Spam
I got the message and read your preamble. YubNub commands are based on web services so it is kind of important to include the domain names. I guess that if spam became a problem in the Wikibook we could truncate the dot com portion of the URI's so that the content could be recognized easily.

-- Paul Boren 23:40, 5 December 2006 (EST)

Vandalism
Hi Herby,

I know you typically hit WB in the wee hours, so maybe you can take a look at the contributions of user Minus. I started to revert his vandalism, but then he started directing his attacks at my user and talk page, etc. Since I cannot block him, and I didn't want to engage in a tit-for-tat war, I gave up.

Jim Thomas 06:55, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Just so you know withinfocus already took care of blocking Minus, and several people took care of reverting the vandalism. --dark [[Image:Yin yang.svg|12px]] lama 08:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks to all the people who reverted the "work" of Minus. Herby, I will think about becoming an admin.  The first place I saw what Minus was doing was on one of "my" pages.  I dug a little deeper to see what else he was up to, and was appalled enough that I decided to take action.  That's when he went for my user/talk pages.  I backed off at that point because I think he wanted to engage in a war.  I will think about adminship.  I have thought of it before, but decided not to because I wasn't ready to commit to the responsibilities that entails.  Also, there are a lot of "global issues" of which I am completely ignorant.  Thus far, I have played mostly in my own world.  But people like this guy sure do make you think. Oh - one other thing.  I do use Firefox, so I am indeed interested in the js offer.  Jim Thomas 19:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC) talk

Halo & Halo 2 subpages
Herby, what do you think of all the subpages of the former Halo and Halo 2 (I just created this redirect earlier tonight) Wikibooks. Should they be deleted? Should they all be redirected to Halo? Or should they be left alone? Does it even matter? I'm still in the mindset of Wikipedia, which is much more uppity than the mindset of Wikibooks. Cheers, Iamunknown 08:17, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Halo is part of the WP Esperanza governing body... he probably made these for use on wikipedia. I'll chat with him about it. -- SB_Johnny | talk 13:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh nevermind, these are something else. If there was a game guide there before, the redirect should be kept, and the page protected against any but sysop edits. -- SB_Johnny | talk 13:51, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

 * The protect thing is sefl-explanatory... just select "sysop only" in the dialog page.
 * Yup, subpages should be deleted, speedily. -- SB_Johnny | talk 13:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Redundant images
Herby, is it appropriate for me to propose images for deletion at VfD? You may have noticed my message at the staff lounge concerning orphaned, redundant flags. I was expecting them to be speedily deleted, probably from my experience as a semi-deletionist-wikipedian. I know that it isn't necessary to delete them, but I like to get things done, so when I noticed them, I intended to promptly trash them. Thanks, Iamunknown 06:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Stuff (cont'd.)
AWB apparently does moves. Go here and search (on the page) for "Move". It's on tab #3 (Start). I didn't know I could use AWB here. At Wikipedia, you had to sign up. I have it on my computer, but I've never used it. I kinda want to, but it seems intimidating. --Iamunknown 09:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Popups is great. I've never used it before, but I like it. I'll be going to bed soon. Thx for the help. --Iamunknown 09:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I noticed that. =P Only after I installed them though. Oh well, it's an easy fix. --Iamunknown 09:39, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

blocks for proxies
I don't know aboutthe Tor ones... you're better off asking darklama because I don't quite understand what they are.

It's not the default settings. Don't block anonymous users only... all edits from those IPs need to be blocked., including user accounts on those IPs (I might have to go back over darklamas, because I think at least some were blocking anons only, and the "pagemove vandals" might be using those (they/he always use accounts). -- SB_Johnny | talk 13:41, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Yeah, brain not in full gear. :-( -- SB_Johnny | talk 13:52, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

 * There shouldn't be any need to go back over my open proxy blocks. I made sure to block anons and account creation indefinately when we were doing that. However I cannot remember rather I blocked any IPs that was from the Tor list. I may not have done so, I remember having doubts about whether to go ahead with them or not. --dark [[Image:Yin yang.svg|12px]] lama 16:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

 * You misunderstand the problem. When you block "anonymous only", that means that named accounts can still edit from that IP. Account creation doesn't prevent editing from accounts that have already been created, and some of our more serious vandals create their accounts long before they use them. -- SB_Johnny | talk 18:01, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

 * In that case all of mine need fixing. As all of them were marked with "anonymous only". I guess our new admin handbook needs to describe what exactly those options mean and do. --dark [[Image:Yin yang.svg|12px]] lama 18:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

 * " I guess our new admin handbook needs to describe what exactly those options mean and do." -- you read my mind :). Darklama, could you take some screenshots... one for blocking an IP (000.00.0), and another for blocking a named user (User:Really bad vandal)? I don't know how to take screenshots. -- SB_Johnny | talk 18:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Just "caught" this conversation - the few I did will need redoing to - I took the unckecked default as ok like DL - I'll learn -- Herby talk thyme 09:34, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Flyer, Gazette
A regular newsletter would be a nice idea! It would give us a way to contact the strong editors on a regular basis. All we would need to do really is to maintain a list of active contributors. There are two methods we could try: Once we get a system set up, we would then have to figure out what to include in the messages, and how regularly they would be sent. For instance, each message could include some basic news (Bulletin-Board style), and some "helpful hints" ("add the bulletin board to your watchlist", "how to report vandalism", etc). I think this idea has real potential. Hope to talk to you more about it later. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 15:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Mailing list. Either we could use the textbook-l list, or we could start our own. Of course, this would require that we get people to sign up for such a list, which many won't do voluntarily.
 * 2) Post messages on user pages. My bot could easily be used to post a message on everybody's userpage simultaneously. All we would need would be a list of recipients, and we could send out messages automatically (and with the bot flag!).

History merge?
One quick thing, then I gotta go to class. I just noticed you were on, and I was wondering if you could merge the history of A-level Mathematics/Discussion to Talk:A-level Mathematics. All edits at the former are at later dates than all edits at the latter. And I figure...discussion pages should go in their proper namespaces. I just don't want to copy-and-paste all the discussion. Thanks. --Iamunknown 16:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Tasks

 * Double redirects, done. Iamunknown 21:40, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Cheers for the welcome
Thanks :) HK51 22:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Good morning...
A bit better, thanks. I was just going through CSD, no particular mission. I'm hoping to go to work today, but not sure just yet, so I might end up playing here instead. -- SB_Johnny | talk 11:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm guessing they think next month is January 2006? -- SB_Johnny | talk 11:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

 * No, it should be protected... maybe move the new edits to the Jan 07 page. Watch my logs and contribs for the transwiki problem. -- SB_Johnny | talk 11:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Now transwikied... see the diff on the wikipedia side as well. -- SB_Johnny | talk 12:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, the move/delete wasn't necessary... you can just import over what was there. -- SB_Johnny | talk 12:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

A friend just told me that Firefox has an IRC plugin, if you're interested. I mostly communicate through wikis and IRC in any case (you may have noticed I don't even check my email all that often). I'll think about the IM alternatives though... I'm also just worried it will just become one more distraction from writing. -- SB_Johnny | talk 16:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Speedy close
Herby, I appreciate your tenacity on WB:VFD but I think you are at times closing too fast. In the case of Military finance you closed two days after you posted it. WB:DP advises waiting a week which is a good idea as the VfD process is about getting a number of people's opinions on the matter. --Swift 16:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

 * The following comment was moved from User talk:Swift --Swift 16:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Fair comment - I kind of expected someone to pull me up on it. There was "effectively" no content would be my view and I see a sense in which it could have been speedy'd anyway.  Other side of the coin - I just rescued Arran from speedy.  I'd prefer VfD to focus on ones that are real judgment ones that to have the page cluttered so anyone passing might find it less easy to read.  I'll happily get it out of the bin if you feel strongly about it - let me know -- Herby  talk thyme 16:04, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, I feel very strongly on this. Once a page has been put in VfD it must wait a reasonable time for consensus. Thanks, --Swift 16:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

 * The following comment was moved from User talk:Swift --Swift 16:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Additionally WB:DP actually states This part of the policy is not clearly defined, and needs to be sorted out. Further that WB:DP is open to interpretation -- Herby  talk thyme 16:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

 * There was a discussion about this a while back. I don't think this clause refers to the time before earliest close. The main unclear point was whether a period of inactivity should be required or a simple consensus (after some period of time) was sufficient sufficient. Something like one or two weeks was suggested as the period for comments — I have heard no arguments why any less would benefit the VfD which is explicitly created to get a broad feedback. --Swift 16:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

 * If I may interject here (hopefully not too rudely), The matter has essentially been sorted out on Decision making, and the deletion policy should probably be updated to reflect this. I am going to make this change to the deletion policy (removing the sentence about "needs to be sorted out", and including a reference to the decision-making policy.
 * That part aside, the policy is explicitly clear that a VfD must remain open for at least a week. The part that needed to be sorted out was the exact method and timeframe for obtaining concensus. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 18:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

 * My issue would have been whether the content could have allowed it to be speedy'd - that has been done by others before - but I accept that I was incorrect as far as existing policy is concerned -- Herby talk thyme 19:12, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Adventist Temlplates
Hi Herby,

I just got a great note from Swift about the way I was using templates. As it turns out, you were right - that's not the way they're supposed to be used. Since you didn't know a better way, I thought I'd share the "better way" suggested by Swift. It's on my talk page if you want to check it out. Looks like I'll have a bit of clean up to do. Jim Thomas 16:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

That was fun
...'nuff said. -- SB_Johnny | talk 18:51, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

 * You said you were going offline, so didn't think you were around :). -- SB_Johnny | talk 18:52, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Good morning Herby. What the heck are you talking about? :-) -- SB_Johnny | talk 13:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I might take a look... trying to get a bit of writing done though, then off to work.
 * When you block one of those vandals, make sure to uncheck "block anonymous only", and make sure the third option (block all IPs used) is checked. This eliminates the need for checkuser, since you're fully blocking the IP anyway. -- SB_Johnny | talk 13:40, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh BTW: if you want to make sure everything a vandal did was reverted, just look at their contribs. Any edit they made that wasn't followed by another edit will have "(Rollback)" next to it. If the rollback option doesn't appear, then the page was edited since the vandal's edit (by you or someone else). -- SB_Johnny | talk 13:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

AWB question
I can't use this bot (I use a mac), but can this thing categorize by any chance? If so, feel like running down the larger books in Special:Uncategorizedpages? -- SB_Johnny | talk 13:53, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

 * G'mornin. Never heard back from you on this. -- SB_Johnny | talk 09:15, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

RE: VfD Closings
To be fair, I don't think there are particularly any differences between the two VfDs, except perhaps that the page Rob deleted was a valid candidate for speedy deletion, while the page you deleted was not. Even then, I think it would be difficult to prove without a shadow of a doubt that Rob did the right thing. After all, the VfD nomination occured less then 7 days after the page was created (which is against policy in the first place), and then the VfD was not allowed to progress beyond 7 Days. To Rob's possible defense, there were a number of votes for "speedy delete" in the VfD, which perhaps could have indicated a general community desire to take care of the matter in a faster way then is generally recommended. However (and I have many "however"s), WB:DP states quite clearly that the only permissable votes are keep, and delete, and that any calls for speedy delete therefore shouldn't be regarded. Of course, this is an example of the wikibooks community uniformly acting in a way that is against policy, and the typical response to that is to change the wording of the policy to reflect the actual state of the community (instead of trying to force the community to conform to some policy document). I'll make a suggestion on Staff Lounge that the wording of WB:DP be updated to reflect the status quo. Pages that are candidates for speedy deletion can be deleted in a speedy manner, without necessarily having to walk on eggshells about it. Many times a page marked as SD will be kept for a while out of courtesy to the author, but there is nothing in policy that states an SD should not be dealt with all possible haste. In a direct answer to your question (finally), Rob felt the page was a valid candidate for speedy deletion, and took care of that VfD without delay (even though a delay would likely have been preferable). User:Swift thought that the page you closed on VfD was not a speedy delete candidate, and therefore should have been given more time. It's a tricky nuance, and one that shouldn't occur too often. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 14:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Can you block 204.8.197.238?
He created an offensive new page directed to 'Wikipedia staff'. I've removed the offensive content and added a delete template. Xania 14:56, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Forget it already done. Xania 14:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

My Main Template?
Hi Herby,

Which template is my main one? I can't find any malicious edits, but I'm sure I'm just not looking in the right place. Thanks for watching my back. Jim Thomas 16:35, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Hey Herby - nevermind about running the bot to fix he category in my book. I found a way to add it to the Honor_header template.  Now it's pretty much everywhere it needs to be with almost no work whatsoever.  Well... I think it's working.  I took the category directive out of Airplane Modeling and noted that it still shows up in the category.  I might fool with a few more honors just to make sure before I start removing the category links.  Jim Thomas 03:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikiversity...
I'm on it. If that IP continues to do it (just left him a note), please block him... he can reach me on wikiversity following the note on his talk page. -- SB_Johnny | talk 13:50, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

.js and bot
I really couldn't figure out anything with the mono.js thing. Must have been an Opera issue. I'd seen that other people were reverting, etc, using this feature but for me it made me want to kill it.

I haven't voted for your bot. Are you sure it needs a vote and is it considered to be a bot? When I followed the link you gave, the first words were 'this is not a bot'. Xania 14:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Bot
Don't know anything about that tool unfortunately. Maybe one day I'll want my own tools account and can make something like that myself, especially since I dislike some of its attributes.

I hadn't noticed you doing anything specific with bots, but many users are recently and that really needs to be something separate to keep its logging off certain pages like RC. It gives a gross misrepresentation of a user's edit count as well. If the community as a whole doesn't care too much then I guess I am overridden, but I don't think users should be allowed to run their own personal bots without a prior approval process. -<font color="#000000">within <font color="#7A7A7A">focus 20:19, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Sysop
Thanks for your message. If I need any help I'll ask. Xania 15:28, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Hum
Sent via Special:Emailuser. Cheers, Iamunknown 18:05, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

mail
Hasn't come through yet (stupid yahoo server). If it's about what I think it's about, then you really should get on IRC. -- SB_Johnny | talk 18:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Magick
no idea. Looks like some kind of yoga/meditation/humanitist king of thing. I thought it was a bad typo of magic at first. Xania 17:04, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:VIP
I tend not to look at VIP if the last entry on that page was made by an admin. I do not know what User:Derbeth's policy is on the matter, but I know he is a much more proactive vandal fighter then I could ever be. I am certainly willing and able to run checkuser requests, just drop me a note on my talk page about it, and I will try to take care of it quickly. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 17:14, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:Checkuser requests
I have run checkuser on the three users you have requested, and i have blocked all the source IP addresses for 1 week. All three of these users have come from separate IP addresses, and only the last one, User:Canadian 153 had any history of vandalism (shared IP with User:Hung Hi, one of the vandals who used the "stretch.jpg" image). If you need anything else, let me know. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 18:39, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Also, (and I hope you dont mind) I have taken the liberty of protecting your user and user talk pages from being moved. This should help to prevent page-move vandalism of your user pages. I did this because it's my opinion that an admins user and user-talk pages should be available to users who need help, and if your page has been moved to something obscene, it isn't helpful. If you don't agree with this action, feel free to undo the protection.
 * As an aside, if you see pages that are repeat targets of pagemove vandalism, feel free to semi-protect them against page moves. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 18:43, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Shaving
I thought about reverting the edit on Shaving but decided that it wasn't spam or vandalism. It was in a section on shaving your arse afterall... Xania 19:37, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

You used the word rectum when describing what area to avoid when shaving the buttocks. Actually, the term anus is better since the rectum includes the inside part and you mean the outside part. Also, it is not a problem for some people, I have shaved that area without problem many times. I think it depends on how curly your hair is as to whether or not you get bumps. --Psychofarm 03:31, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism in Progress
Yeah, sure, every significant vandal using an account on Wikibooks is worth reporting to VIP, because me or Whiteknight can block the source IP. I wrote about a case when two mumfuns were using the same IP, I blocked it for a week. --Derbeth talk 20:04, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Vfd-survived
Herby, just to let know, I added a little optional parameter to {{vfd-survived}}. Now if you do {{vfd-survived}}, where PageName is Wikibooks:Votes for Deletion/SubPage (or Wikibooks:Votes for Deletion#Section or Wikibooks:Votes for Deletion/ArhicveN#Section), then it converts the text, its archived entry, into a link to PageName with the same text. Cheers, Iamunknown 22:13, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I just realised, I should probably add it to the documentation at {{vfd-survived}}. Actually, I just realised that there exists no documentation at vfd-survived. I'll write it up later this week. --Iamunknown 22:15, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Flyer
I think we should move forward with the newsletter idea soon. If you don't mind, I would like to post a message about it in the staff lounge, asking people to submit names of active contributors, and perhaps give suggestions about what kinds of information would be included in the first newsletter. I have already written up a bot program to deliver the letter to all the people in the list. The bot will check an online list, and send the message to everybody on the list. That way, people can opt out of the newsletter simply by removing their names from the list. Let me know what you think about this, and we can post a message on Staff lounge soon. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 02:05, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

the daylilies thing :)
yeah, I wrote the original module there (first thing I wrote on wikibooks, I think), and finally deleted the redirect a week or two ago because I thought it was unneeded. I'll re-make the redirect and leave a not on the IP's talk... hopefully it's not a dynamic IP. -- SB_Johnny | talk 12:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Jersey Cow
Please see the comment I left on Darklama's talk page about user Jersey Cow. The block was because of actual vandalism and not the comments made in the Vandalism in Progress page. Please see Jersey Cow's contributions to see. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Xania (talk • contribs) 10:55, 13 Dec 2006 (UTC)

User:Jmoinian
I've noticed this kind of thing alot, especially with new users. Many of them don't understand that you can't begin a new line with a space, or else the text becomes "preformatted". Simply saying "You aren't using correct formatting" doesnt fix the problem, because these users don't know what they are doing wrong. Also, I've noticed that some new users don't get the hang of checking their talk page for new messages, so don't get discouraged if they don't respond to your message immediately.

As to the content, I think there is some boarderline material here, most of which suffers from the user's lack of knowledge of our policies. Much of this stuff looks like it would do better on wikipedia, or else it should be formatted into a single book (where all the pages he's created appear to be subpages of a single book). One of the best things that we can is to go back and fix the mistakes, send him a message that we did fix the mistakes, explain how we fixed them, and warn him not to do it anymore. Patience is a virtue! --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 13:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Hi herby... I though I had gotten back to you before but probably hit "preview" and forgot to save (happens to me more often than I'd like to admit).
 * There's been some discussion at wikiversity about actually blocking people who do this sort of thing after being informed/warned and without responding to notes on their talk pages. Now that blocked users can edit their talk pages, we might want to consider doing that here as well: not a "punitive" measure, but rather stopping the mess-making while we discuss things with them. -- SB_Johnny | talk 14:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Newsletter, making it happen
I harvested your list of editors to make Active wikibookians. I also (finaly) posted a message about the newsletter on the staff lounge. Let me know what you think! --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 00:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I ran a quick test of my "deliverybot", and everything seems good to go: http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Whiteknight&diff=685859&oldid=685838 . All we need now is a list and a letter. --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 00:53, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I have a link for you: Wikibooks Gazette. It's not much yet, but we're working on it! --Whiteknight (talk) (projects) 02:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Military Finance
Damn you beat me to it! Spent ages getting it right and making sure I was deleting the correct page. Then it tells me you've just deleted it! Thanks though. Xania 11:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Friendly query
This query is not 'What are doing to 'my' pages' but 'Thanks for taking an interest in the Applied Science pages - what is the thinking behind your recent changes?'. What's 'alpha'?

8-)

Ewen 14:22, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

hrrm?
Problem? (Link please).

I'm just here a moment... gotta take the goat out. -- SB_Johnny | talk 19:57, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

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This Quantum World/Feynman route/two slits

< PREVIOUS

An experiment with two slits
In this experiment, the final measurement (to the possible outcomes of which probabilities are assigned) is the detection of an electron at the backdrop, by a detector situated at D (D being a particular value of x). The initial measurement outcome, on the basis of which probabilities are assigned, is the launch of an electron by an electron gun G. (Since we assume that G is the only source of free electrons, the detection of an electron behind the slit plate also indicates the launch of an electron in front of the slit plate.) The alternatives or possible intermediate outcomes are The corresponding amplitudes are $$A_L$$ and $$A_R.$$
 * the electron went through the left slit (L),
 * the electron went through the right slit (R).

Here is what we need to know in order to calculate them:
 * $$A_L$$ is the product of two complex numbers, for which we shall use the symbols $$\langle D|L\rangle$$ and $$\langle L|G\rangle.$$
 * By the same token, $$A_R = \langle D|R\rangle\,\langle R|G\rangle.$$
 * The absolute value of $$\langle B|A\rangle$$ is inverse proportional to the distance $$d(BA)$$ between A and B.
 * The phase of $$\langle B|A\rangle$$ is proportional to $$d(BA).$$

For obvious reasons $$\langle B|A\rangle$$ is known as a propagator.

Why product?
Recall the fuzziness ("uncertainty") relation, which implies that $$\Delta p\rightarrow\infty$$ as $$\Delta x\rightarrow0.$$ In this limit the particle's momentum is completely indefinite or, what comes to the same, has no value at all. As a consequence, the probability of finding a particle at B, given that it was last "seen" at A, depends on the initial position A but not on any initial momentum, inasmuch as there is none. Hence whatever the particle does after its detection at A is independent of what it did before then. In probability-theoretic terms this means that the particle's propagation from G to L and its propagation from L to D are independent events. So the probability of propagation from G to D via L is the product of the corresponding probabilities, and so the amplitude of propagation from G to D via L is the product $$\langle D|L\,\rangle\langle L|G\rangle$$ of the corresponding amplitudes.

Why is the absolute value inverse proportional to the distance?
Imagine (i) a sphere of radius $$r$$ whose center is A and (ii) a detector monitoring a unit area of the surface of this sphere. Since the total surface area is proportional to $$r^2,$$ and since for a free particle the probability of detection per unit area is constant over the entire surface (explain why!), the probability of detection per unit area is inverse proportional to $$r^2.$$ The absolute value of the amplitude of detection per unit area, being the square root of the probability, is therefore inverse proportional to $$r.$$

Why is the phase proportional to the distance?
The multiplicativity of successive propagators implies the additivity of their phases. Together with the fact that, in the case of a free particle, the propagator $$\langle B|A\rangle$$ (and hence its phase) can only depend on the distance between A and B, it implies the proportionality of the phase of $$\langle B|A\rangle$$ to $$d(BA).$$

Calculating the interference pattern
According to Rule A, the probability of detecting at G an electron launched at D is

p_A(D) = |\langle D|L\rangle\,\langle L|G\rangle|^2 + |\langle D|R\rangle\,\langle R|G\rangle|^2. $$ If the slits are equidistant from G, then $$\langle L|G\rangle$$ and $$\langle R|G\rangle$$ are equal and $$p_A(D)$$ is proportional to

$$ Here is the resulting plot of $$p_A$$ against the position $$x$$ of the detector:
 * \langle D|L\rangle|^2+|\langle D|R\rangle|^2 = 1/d^2(DL) + 1/d^2(DR).

$$p_A(x)$$ (solid line) is the sum of two distributions (dotted lines), one for the electrons that went through L and one for the electrons that went through R.

According to Rule B, the probability $$p_B(D)$$ of detecting at D an electron launched at G is proportional to

$$ where $$\Delta$$ is the difference $$d(DR)-d(DL)$$ and $$k=p/\hbar$$ is the wavenumber, which is sufficiently sharp to be approximated by a number. (And it goes without saying that you should check this result.)
 * \langle D|L\rangle + \langle D|R\rangle|^2 = 1/d^2(DL) + 1/d^2(DR) + 2 \cos(k\Delta)/[d(DL)\,d(DR)],

Here is the plot of $$p_B$$ against $$x$$ for a particular set of values for the wavenumber, the distance between the slits, and the distance between the slit plate and the backdrop:

Observe that near the minima the probability of detection is less if both slits are open than it is if one slit is shut. It is customary to say that destructive interference occurs at the minima and that constructive interference occurs at the maxima, but do not think of this as the description of a physical process. All we mean by "constructive interference" is that a probability calculated according to Rule B is greater than the same probability calculated according to Rule A, and all we mean by "destructive interference" is that a probability calculated according to Rule B is less than the same probability calculated according to Rule A.

Here is how an interference pattern builds up over time :

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User talk:Kplokesh

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User talk:Vorapranav

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Talk:XForms/Vertical Menu

Does not work on Firefox 2 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 158.37.60.106 (talk • contribs).

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Cookbook:Irish Stew

| Ireland

Irish stew (Irish: stobhach gaelach) is a traditional Irish dish made from lamb or mutton as well as potatoes, onions and parsley. It originated in Ireland but appears in cookbooks all over Europe, including in Escoffier's Guide Culinaire. Although traditionally made with lamb or mutton, Irish stew was basically a cheap meal which was thrown together with left-overs and filled out with potatoes. Sometimes, lamb or mutton neckbones, shanks, and other trimmings were the only basis for the stock. Yet these would-be discards still held enough flavor after a long simmering process to do justice to a hearty bowl of stew. The root vegetables added further flavor and thickening power, as well as filling sustenance. Some cooks added turnips or parsnips, carrots, and barley when available.

When the Irish people began immigrating to the United States, they naturally brought along their food traditions. The stew evolved and adapted to include the local offerings. Sheep were not as plentiful, so other types of meat were often substituted. The recipe has evolved to often include Guinness stout and paprika. More recently, Irish stew has been made with cheap beef. Some variations have exalted this original peasant dish to near gourmet status.

Ingredients

 * 2½ lb (1.1 kg) deboned mutton, cut in chunks
 * 4 large potatoes, peeled and thickly sliced
 * 2 large onions, thickly sliced
 * 3–4 medium carrots, peeled and thickly sliced
 * 1 sprig of parsley, chopped
 * 2 cups (480 ml) water
 * Salt
 * Pepper

Procedure

 * 1) Choose a pot with a well-fitting lid and put in the ingredients in layers, starting and finishing with potatoes. Pour in the water and season to taste.
 * 2) Cover and put on a very low heat for about 2½ hours until the meat is tender and the potatoes have thickened the liquid.

Notes, tips, and variations

 * The dish may also be made with lamb, in which case it requires only 1½ hours cooking time.

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User talk:193.62.96.89

Xania 12:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

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Horticulture/Mulch

Mulch is a protective cover placed over the soil, primarily to modify the effects of the local climate. A wide variety of natural and synthetic materials are used.

Mulch is used for various purposes:
 * to adjust soil temperature by helping soil retain more heat in spring and autumn, and by keeping soil cool and evening out temperature swings during hot and variable summer conditions
 * to control weeds by blocking the sunlight necessary for germination
 * to retain water by slowing evaporation
 * to add organic matter and nutrients to the soil through the gradual breakdown of the mulch material
 * to repel insects
 * to incrementally improve growing conditions by reflecting sunlight upwards to the plants, and by providing a clean, dry surface for ground-lying fruit such as ../Squash/es and ../Melon/s.
 * for erosion control - protects soil from rain and preserves moisture
 * for sediment control - slows surface runoff

A variety of materials are used as mulch:

 * Organic residues - grass clippings, leaves, hay, straw, shredded bark, sawdust, wood chips, shredded newspaper, cardboard, wool, etc. Many of these materials also act as a direct composting system. There are many differing opinions on what to use.
 * compost - This relies on fully composted material, where potential weed seed has been eliminated, or else the mulch will actually produce weed cover.
 * Plastic mulch - Crops grow through slits or holes in thin plastic sheeting. This method is predominant in large-scale vegetable growing, with millions of acres cultivated under plastic mulch worldwide each year (disposal of plastic mulch is cited as an environmental problem).
 * Sheet composting - Various products developed as a biodegradable alternative to plastic mulch.
 * Stones and gravel can also be used a mulch. In northern climates the heat retained by rocks will extend the growing season.

The way a particular organic mulch decomposes, and reacts to wetting by rain and dew, determine in great degree its effectiveness. Organic mulches can rot rapidly rather than slowly break down, and it can mat into a barrier that blocks water and air, both conditions that can be detrimental to crops.

Living mulch may also be considered a type of mulch, or as a mulch-like cover crop. This technique involves undersowing a main crop with a fast-growing cover crop that will provide weed suppression and other benefits associated with mulch.

Mulching is an important part of any no-dig gardening regime, such as practiced within permaculture systems.

Application
Mulch is usually applied towards the beginning of the growing season, and may be reapplied as necessary. It serves initially to warm the soil by helping it retain heat. This allows early seeding and transplanting of certain crops, and encourages faster growth. As the season progresses, the mulch stabilizes temperature and moisture, and prevents sunlight from germinating weed seed.

Plastic mulch used in large-scale commercial production is laid down with a tractor-drawn or standalone plastic mulch layer. This is usually part of a sophisticated mechanical process, where raised beds are formed, plastic is rolled out on top, and seedlings are transplanted through it. Drip irrigation is often required, with drip tape laid under the plastic, as plastic mulch is impermeable to water.

In home gardens and smaller farming operations, organic mulch is usually spread by hand around emerged plants. For materials like straw and hay, a shredder may be used to chop up the material. Organic mulches are usually piled quite high, six inches or more, and settle over the season.

In central Pennsylvania, Harrisburg area, mulch is namely referred to as tanbark, even by manufacturers and distributors. In this area, "mulch" refers to very fine tanbark or peat moss.

Sour Mulch
Mulch should normally smell like freshly cut wood, but sometimes will develop a toxicity that will cause it to smell like vinegar, ammonia, sulfur or silage. This happens if the material is not rotated often enough and it forms pockets where no air is circulating. When this occurs, the decomposition process become anaerobic and produces these toxic materials in small quantities. Once exposed to the air, the process quickly reverts back to an aerobic decomposition, but these toxic materials will be present for a period of time. If the mulch is placed around plants before the toxicity has had a chance to dissipate, then the plants could very likely be severely damaged or killed depending on their hardiness. Plants that are predominantly low to the ground or freshly planted are the most susceptible.

If sour mulch is applied and there is plant kill, the best thing to do is just water the mulch heavily. Water will help the chemicals to dissipate more quickly and refresh the plants. By the time plant kill is noticed, most of the toxicity will have already disappeared anyway, so removing the offending mulch will have little effect. While testing after plant kill will not likely turn up anything since the toxicity will have dissipated, a simple pH check may reveal a highly acid content, perhaps in the 1.8 to 3.6 range instead of the normal 6.0 to 7.2 range. Finally, placing a bit of the offending mulch around another plant to check for plant kill will verify if the toxicity has departed. If the new plant is also killed, then sour mulch is probably not the problem.

Types of mulch

 * Shredded or ground bark or wood
 * Shredded leaves
 * ../Straw/
 * Pine Straw
 * Compost
 * Gravel
 * Jacks
 * ../Plastic Mulch/
 * ../Fabric Mulch/
 * ../Geotextile/
 * ../Paper Mulch Barriers/

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Talk:Blender 3D: Noob to Pro/Advanced Tutorials/Advanced Animation/Guided tour/Const/fl

Using the floor constraint will keep a bone from pasing trough a object from a given direction. It is usefull when making floors ofcourse but allso when making walls and other items wich are obstacles for the armature.

there is allso an offset value wich is verry useful when say for examble you have a foot where the mesh etretches down below the actual tip of the armature you can then use the offset to make the bone stop before it actually reaches the obstacle objet.


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Wikibooks:Requests for deletion/JoArabize

JoArabize
Cleaning up! Found this. Marked for cleanup since May this year and unlinked. Had no active contributions since Feb this year. If there was any real content I would not do this but as it stands it isn't a book and doesn't look like it is about to become one. I guess delete is my vote -- Herby talk thyme 17:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - Does not have useful content. It appears to be associated with a Wikipedia user group that no longer exists. --xixtas 17:49, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Unsure On the one hand this doesn't seem to be going anywhere, but on the other it causes no harm and a user contemplating contributing to this topic could benefit from the structure. --Swift 19:11, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Sort of got to agree but is there a halfway house for unloved, incomplete stuff. Is it in wikibooks best interests to offer this kind of thing (or indeed the opportunity to make more of it for someone who is interested)?  Needs sorting anyway -- Herby  talk thyme 19:15, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Delete. If I have no idea what the heck it is then how would anyone else?  What is JoArabize anyway? Xania 23:21, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - I searched for this online and only came up with the Wikibooks article. This page was essentially totally created by an initial dump and only a couple spare edits moved the text around a bit. I don't think this is anything real and thus should go. -within focus 00:00, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I searched for some keywords and this seems to be a creation of JoPHP, the Jordan PHP User group, which is related to JoLUG, the Jordan Linux User Group. I've contacted the technical contact (Jad Madi, possibly ) that I dug up with 'whois' and asked for clarification. --Swift 01:43, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


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Horticulture/No Till Gardening

No-till or No-dig gardening is an approach to cultivation favored by many organic gardeners. The primary reasons for digging the soil are to remove weeds, to loosen and aerate the soil and to incorporate organic matter such as compost or manure. However, there is a strong case against digging, which argues that in the long term it can be detrimental to the soil's health. While digging is an effective way of removing perennial weed roots, it can also cause dormant seeds to come to the surface and germinate. Digging can also damage soil structure, cause problems like compaction, and disturb and damage balances of the soil flora and fauna. Also, by exposure to the air, digging tends to use up nutrients which then need to be replenished.

No-dig methods rely on nature to carry out cultivation operations. Organic matter such as well rotted manure, compost, leaf mold, spent mushroom compost, old straw, etc., is added directly to the soil surface as a mulch at least 2 or 3 inches deep, which is then incorporated by the actions of earthworms and other soil animals that move it downwards. Worms and other soil life also assist in building up the soil's structure, their tunnels providing aeration and drainage, and their excretions bind together soil crumbs. No-dig systems are said to be freer of pests and disease, possibly due to a more balanced soil population being allowed to build up in this comparatively undisturbed environment, and by encouraging the build up of beneficial rather than harmful soil fungi. Moisture is also retained more efficiently under mulch than on the surface of bare earth.

Converting to a no-dig system is a long term process, and is reliant upon having plentiful organic matter to provide mulch material. It is also necessary to thoroughly remove any perennial weed roots from the area beforehand, although their hold can be weakened by applying a light-excluding surface layer such as large sheets of cardboard or several thicknesses of spread out newspaper (overlapped to provide thorough cover) before adding the compost mulch.

No-dig is not a technique that is appropriate in all situations, but organic gardeners and farmers should at least consider minimizing soil-disturbing practices if they are to reverse soil damage and erosion.

No-dig gardening systems are strongly recommended by Dr. Shewell Cooper of the Good Gardeners Association.

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Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...Nf6/2. e5

= Alekhine's Defence =

Black's knight is under attack. The most popular, and probably best, move is /2...Nd5/, although rarely /2...Ne4/ and even /2...Ng8/ have been played, with poorer results.

Theory table
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 * 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5


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Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...Nf6/2. e5/2...Nd5

Alekhine's Defence - Normal Variation
White's pawn is now weak. It should be reinforced with other pawns. The most intuitive move is /3. d4/. But White can also keep on attacking the knight and play /3. c4/ delaying d4. An option may allow White to avoid the sharpest lines of the Alekhine : /3. Nc3/. In compensation for doubled pawns, White can accelerate his development after 3...Nxc3 4.dxc3, or strengthen his center and grab extra space with 4.bxc3.

Theory table
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'1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5'


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Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...Nf6/2. e5/2...Nd5/3. d4

= Alekhine's Defence = With his knight finally safe, Black can start to put pressure on White's pawn center. The most aggressive move in this position is /3...d6/ or e6.

Theory table
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'1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4'

'1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4'


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Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...Nf6/2. e5/2...Nd5/3. d4/3...d6

= Alekhine's Defence = At that point, it's unwise for White to take the d6 pawn, which means giving up the space advantage and allowing Black to build his own pawn center.

While /4. c4/ is tempting, the modern variation /4. Nf3/ gets better results, making harder for Black to equalize.

Theory table
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1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6


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Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...Nf6/2. e5/2...Nd5/3. d4/3...d6/4. Nf3

= Alekhine's Defence : Modern Variation = Black still lacks space. He must at all cost avoid a passive play which would allow White to crush him quickly.

Three options are playable :
 * /4...Bg4/ reduces White's control over the center. Black often accepts to break his bishop pair and takes the knight.
 * /4...g6/ prepares king's bishop fianchetto.
 * /4...dxe5/ is sometimes seen. It frees space for Black but leaves him with no weapons to counter White's advance in development. Moreover, this move seems to be out of the "spirit" of the opening.

Theory table
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'1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6 4.Nf3'


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Horticulture/Verbascum thapsus

The Common Mullein or Great Mullein (Verbascum thapsus L.) is a species of mullein native to Europe and Asia. Other common names are Woolly Mullein, Flannel Mullein, Shepherd's Club, and Aaron's Rod. This dicotyledonous biennial is an introduced weed in several other parts of the world. It has been renowned since ancient times as a remedy for skin, throat and breathing ailment. The specific epithet thapsus is of unclear origins. It might be related to the African city of Thapsus, or the Greek establishment of Thapsos, now near Syracuse, Sicily.

Description

Common Mullein is a biennial that flowers for a month and a half in mid- to late summer. The first year it only produces a rosette of leaves. The second year it produces a tall stem that can reach up to 10 feet and ends in a dense spike of flowers, only a few of which flower at the same time. All parts of the plants are covered with star-shaped trichomes. The dried stem and fruits usually persist in winter.

The leaves are alternate, thick and decurrent, with a shape varying between oblong and oblanceolate and a size up to 4 inches across and 12 inches long (10.2 cm wide and 30.5 cm long). Their size diminishes as they get higher on the stem. The stem is solid (nearly an inch across) and is sometimes branched just below the inflorescence, typically doing so when damaged. The plants produces shallow taproots.

Flowers are pentamerous, with a 5-lobed calyx tube and corolla, the latter yellow and an inch or less wide, and five stamens. The flowers are almost sessile, with only very short pedicels (2 mm, 0.08 in). The three upper stamens are longer, with their filaments covered with yellow or whitish hair, while the two other stamen have glabrous filaments. The plant produces small (6 mm, 0.24 in) capsules containing large numbers of minute (less than a millimeter) brown seeds.

Ecology
The species is native to a wide range covering most of temperate Europe, parts of North Africa, Central Asia and the Himalayas. It was introduced and has naturalized in North America, Australia, Chile, Hispaniola and Argentina (1925). In the United States it was imported very early and cultivated for its medicinal property. By the 1630s, it was already escaped and had begun spreading so much that Amos Eaton thought it was a native plant, and gives it as such in 1818. In 1839 it is already reported in Michigan and in 1876, in California. It is now found commonly in all the states, and all the Canadian provinces.

Common Mullein is most frequent as a colonizer of disturbed soils. This is in part due to the plant's intolerance of shade and the very long periods that can extend before germination. It is not an agricultural weed, although its presence can be very difficult to completely eradicate, and is problematic in overgrazed pastures. It is considered a noxious weed in Colorado (Class C), Hawaii and Victoria, Australia (regionally prohibited in the West Gippsland region, and regionally controlled in several others).

This species favors dry, sandy or gravelly soils, although it can grow in a variety of habitats: meadows, roadsides, forest clearings and pastures. Common Mullein germinates almost solely in bare soil, in temperatures between 10 and 40°C (50F to 104F). While it can germinate in total darkness if proper conditions are present (tests give a 35% germination rate under ideal conditions), in nature, it will only appear if the seeds are exposed, or very close to the soil surface. While it can also appear in areas where some vegetation exist, growth of the rosettes on bare soil is four to seven times more rapid.

Common Mullein requires vernalization before it can flower. Plants that germinate in autumn overwinter if they are large enough (rosettes less than 15 cm (5,9 in) across die in winter) before flowering the next year. The entire plant usually dies at the end of its second year, although some rare individual remain vegetative a third year.

Individual flowers are open only for a day. They are autogamous and will self-fertilize if they haven't been pollinated by insects during the day. While many insects visit the flowers, only some bees will actually accomplish pollination. Visitors include Halictidae bees and hoverflies. Megachilidae bees, notably Anthidium species, use the hair in making their nests. Seeds are generally too small for birds to feed on, although the American Goldfinch was reported to consume them.

Common Mullein seeds maintain their germinative powers for decades, up to a hundred years, according to some studies. Because of this, and because the plant is an extremely prolific seed bearer (up to 180,000 or 240,000 ), it can sprout from apparently bare ground or shortly after forest fires long after previous plants have died, and will likely be an initial colonist. Common Mullein rarely establishes on new grounds without human intervention because its seeds are not dispersed very far. Seed dispersion requires the stem to be moved by wind or animal movement, and 75% of the seeds fall within a single meter of the parent plant; 93% fall within five meters.

Common Mullein is not considered an agricultural weed because it cannot compete with established plants, and is easily crowded out by them, except in areas where vegetation is sparse to begin with, such as Californian semi-desertic areas (Eastern Sierra Nevada), where it crowds out native herbs and grasses; Its tendency to appear after forest fires also disturbs the normal ecological succession. Despite not being an agricultural weed itself, it hosts a number of insects and diseases, including both pests and Beneficial insects. It is also a potential reservoir of the ../Cucumber Mosaic Virus. A study found V. thapsus to host insects from 29 different families. Most of the pests found were western flower thrips (../Frankliniella occidentalis/), ../Lygus/ species, such as the tarnished plant bug (../Lygus lineolaris/) and various ../Spider Mites/ from the family Tetranychidae. These make the plant a potential reservoir for overwintering pests. Other insects commonly found on Common Mullein are specific feeders such as mullein thrips (../Haplothrips/ verbasci), ../Gymnaetron tetrum/ and the Mullein Moth (../Cucullia verbasci/). Useful insects are also hosted by Common Mullein, including predatory mites of the ../Galendromus/, ../Typhlodromus/ and ../Amblyseius/ genera (Phytoseiidae), the minute pirate bug (../Orius tristicolor/) and the mullein plant bug (../Campylomma verbasci/).

Uses
Common Mullein has long had a medicinal reputation, especially as an astringent and emollient. It contains mucilage, several saponins, coumarin and rotenone. Dioscorides recommended it for diseases of the lung. Non medical uses have included dyeing and making torches.

Medical uses
2000 years ago, Dioscorides first recommended the plant against pulmonary diseases, and this has remained one of its primary uses, especially against cough. Leaf decoctions or herbal teas were used for expectoration, consumption, dry cough, bronchitis, sore throat and hemorrhoids. Leaves were also smoked against pulmonary ailments, a tradition that would be rapidly transmitted to the native Americans.

Oil from the flowers was used against catarrhs, colics and, in Germany, earaches, frostbite, eczema and other external problems. Topical application of various mullein-based preparation was recommended against warts, boils, carbuncles, and chilblains, amongst others. Recent studies have found Mullein (especially the flowers) to contain glycyrrhizin compounds with bactericide and potentially anti-tumoral action. In Germany, a governmental commission sanctioned medicinal use of the plant for catarrhs. It was also part of the National Formulary in the United States and United Kingdom. The plant's leaves, in addition to the seeds, have been reported as containing rotenone, although quantities are unknown.

In [Spanish, Common Mullein is called Gordolobo, a name transferred on Gnaphalium conoideum, a plant with a similar appearance and uses by the Mexican Aztecs, and the two are both sold under the name "Gordolobo," which has lead to at least one case of poisoning due to confusion with Senecio longilobus.

Other uses
Like many ancient plants (Pliny the Elder describes it in his Naturalis Historia), Common Mullein was linked to witches, although the relationship remained generally ambiguous, and the plant was also widely held as being able to ward off curses and evil spirits.

The flowers provide dyes of bright yellow or green, and have been used for hair coloring. The dried leaves and hair were made into candle wicks, or put into shoes to help with warmth keeping. The dried stems were also dipped into suet or wax to make torches.

Control

Control of the plant, when desired, is best managed via mechanical means, namely hand pulling and hoeing, preferably followed by sowing of native plants. Animals do not graze it because of its irritating hairs, and herbicides require surfactants to be effective, as the hair cause water to roll off the plant, much like the lotus effect. Burning is ineffective, as it only creates new bare areas for seedlings to colonize. G. tetrum and C. verbasci usually have little effect on V. thapsus populations. goats and chickens have been proposed to control Mullein. Effective (when used with a surfactant) contact herbicides include ../Glyphosate, triclopyr and ../Sulfurometuron-methyl/. Ground herbicides, like ../Tebuthiuron/, are also effective, but recreate bare ground and require repeated application to prevent regrowth.

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Radiation Oncology/Cervix/RTOG Cervix

 * RTOG Website
 * Wikibooks list of RTOG trials

Review of RTOG Cervix trials:
 * RTOG Review; 1999 PMID 11240808 — "Radiation Therapy Oncology Group clinical trials for carcinoma of the cervix." Grigsby PW et al. Int J Gynecol Cancer. 1999 Nov;9(6):439-447.
 * Review of primary data from trials covering hyperbaric oxygen, altered fractionation, hypoxic cell sensitization, chemo-sensitization, prophylactic PA irradiation, and neutrons
 * Positive trials: RTOG 79-20 prophylactic PA RT with IB2 and II disease; RTOG 90-01 concurrent chemo

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The Computer Revolution/OOP

Object-oriented programming pronounced oop is a time saving measure of recycling used by programmers. Rather than having to recreate a program form scratch OOP uses objects or previously constructed modules which contain chunks of data and processing instructions. These processing instructions are activated when a message in sent and an action needs to be performed. These processing instructions are called methods. Essentially, OOP is recycling blocks of program code which prevents a programmer from having to start from scratch every time a new program is written. OOP takes longer to learn than programming but it is worth the investment in time because it speeds up the process of developing programs.

Concepts of OOP
OOP has three concepts which are encapsulation, inheritance, and polymorphism.

Encapsulation as the word implies encapsulates both data and processing instructions for reuse in other programs.

Inheritance use objects which are related to one another in characteristic and behavior which form a class. These classes can use hierarchies to pass on traits from one class to another subclass creating new objects.

Polymorphism or "many shapes" allows objects to take different shapes at run time. This is useful when the programmer does not know what action the user is to perform in advance.

An example of this is how the cursor takes different form depending on where it is placed on the computer screen.

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Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...a6

= St. George Defence =

1...a6
When played seriously this defence is workable. Black lets White grab the center like in a "hypermodern" opening, while gaining power on the queenside. Usually, b5 and Bb7 will follow soon (attacking e4 pawn, eventually with help of Nf6). That way, Black can enter a very playable middlegame, contrary to what might have been expected. It remains viable in highly skilled games, such as Tony Miles overcoming Karpov using this opening.

In response to this move, White can either start taking control of the center with /2. d4/ or try to prevent the b5 move with /2. c4/. But this last move is considered inferior because of 2...e5, where Black would have a slight advantage (the same goes for 2. a4).

Also note that White can try to set a powerful trap for unadvised Black players (but those who play the St. George as Black are generally advised players) by playing /2. Bc4/. If 2...b5, then 3. Bxf7+ Kxf7 4. Qh5+ and White can manage to win a rook.

White can also choose to develop a knight first with /2. Nf3/ or to challenge Black on the diagonal with /2. g3/.

Theory table
1.e4 a6

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Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...a6/2. d4

= St. George Defence =

2.d4
Logically, Black should now play /2...b5/. He may eventually delay it and play /2...e6/.

Theory table
'1.e4 a6 2.d4'

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Cookbook:Gula Jawa

| Cookbook:Sweeteners

Gula jawa is a variety of coconut palm sugar made from the Borassus (Palmyra palm). It is used in Javanese cuisine. One can substitute either brown sugar (preferred) or white sugar for gula jawa.

Gula Jawa Recipes

 * Gado-gado
 * Rendang
 * Kare Ayam - Chicken Curry

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Hello, I'm going to translate in Italian your book on the baroque flute, so I would ask you what means qqq in the paragraph "How to oil?" in the page on the care.--Ptolemaios (discuss • contribs) 02:26, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

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Learn to Play Drums/Cymbals

Buying Cymbals
Cymbals can be used to add variety to your playing. They come in many different types, in different sizes. Cymbals prices differ largely between types and brands. For example, from the cheapest name brand cymbals (Solar cymbals by Sabian), a small 10" splash cymbal costs £24.00. It's a lot of money really, especially including the Hardware/Cymbal stands. But the same size and type cymbal from another brand could cost around £90.00! So if you're only just starting out, you shouldn't really go for some insanely high-priced ones.

Types of Cymbals
Here's a list of cymbal types and their sound (well as close as we can get to describing it to actually letting you hear it):

Hi-hats
One of the main parts of the drum kit, along with the snare and bass drum. These are usually used as a backbeat (look at drum tab to see what the hi-hat is (mostly) used for. The hi-hats can also be used occasionally as a ride cymbal. Hi-hats can be played open or closed, operated with one foot (look at Exploring the hi-hats)

Crash cymbals
Usually come in sizes between 14" and 18". These are usually used to pack a punch at the end of a bar (the end of a beat). These produce bright, short sounds.

Ride Cymbals
By far the largest type of cymbal you are likely to come across. These come in sizes from 18" to 22" mostly, but the 20" ride is the most common. Ride cymbals produce long, dark sounds, opposite to that of the crash.

China Cymbals
The cymbals provide a 'trashy' and 'explosive' tone. Most china cymbals are used as a more explosive ride cymbal i.e. backbeats.

Splash Cymbals
These are the smallest types of cymbals. The most common size is 8", and its normal function is to provide a short, snappy accent.

Sizzle Cymbals
Cymbals with chains or rattles to change the sound. It is possible to buy separate chains (or rattles) and attach them to your cymbal, or make your own (however, that is not recommended by us). Chains and rattles are usually found on ride cymbals.

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Cookbook:Kari Ayam (Indonesian Chicken Curry)

| Indonesian Cuisine

Kari ayam (chicken curry) is one of the signature dishes of Indonesian cuisine. In spite of the name "curry," this dish does not use Indian curry spice, and is actually a spicy but sweet dish.

Ingredients

 * 1 lb (450 g) boneless, skinless chicken parts
 * 5 Asian shallots, sliced (or ½ cup chopped onions)
 * 2 cloves garlic, minced
 * 1 tsp ginger, minced or grated
 * 1 tsp lemongrass, minced or grated
 * 6 kimiri (candlenuts), ground
 * 2 salam leaves (Indonesian bay leaves)
 * 4 kaffir lime leaves
 * ½ tsp turmeric root, ground or grated
 * ½ tsp galangal root, ground or grated
 * 1 cup (240 ml) coconut milk
 * ½ tsp salt (or to taste)
 * 2 tbsp gula jawa
 * 2 tbsp cooking oil
 * 2 hot chiles (optional)
 * ¼ tsp terasi (fermented shrimp paste)

Procedure

 * 1) Wash chicken parts.
 * 2) In a food processor or mortar and pestle, grind the garlic, ginger, kimiri nuts, turmeric, galangal, hot chilies, and terasi into a paste (bumbu).
 * 3) In a wok or skillet, cook the paste over medium heat for 1 minute.
 * 4) Add the chicken parts to the wok, and brown them.
 * 5) Add the shallots, lemongrass, kaffir lime leaves, and salam leaves to the wok, and sauté for another minute.
 * 6) Add the coconut milk and bring to a light boil.
 * 7) Simmer on low heat for 10 minutes.

Notes, tips, and variations

 * Serve with white rice (nasi putih), yellow rice (nasi kuning), or coconut rice (nasi uduk).
 * Top with fried shallots.
 * Substitute fish, shrimp, or lamb for the chicken.


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Learn to Play Drums/Regular Contributors

Li
Li's been drumming for about three years. His favourite bands are Muse, Franz Ferdinand and Maximo Park. His favourite Muse songs are Screenager, Citizen Erased, Ruled by Secrecy and Knights of Cydonia - just in case you'd like to know...

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Eugene has only started drumming and has a Sonor Special Edition 505 Stage Set. His favourite bands are Muse, Iron Maiden, Cardiac Attack and Avenged Sevenfold. His favourite Avenged Sevenfold Songs are Critical Acclaim, Scream and Gunslinger - just in case you'd like to know...

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Talk:Nanotechnology/Overviews

In my opinion "main" entries of a subject of a book should not be links to a site requiring a fee or subscription in order to view material. In clearly notated sections of the page for outside links, this shouldn't be a problem, but as entries in the main page it is not in keeping with the spirit of a free site for educational materials.

Sorry, I'm not quite sure I get your point. If you're referring to the "Encyclopedia of Nanoscience and Nanotechnology" and "Springer Handbook of Nanotechnology " they are quoted because they are to my knowledge the first and only exisitng general reference books on the subject and for this I would say the deserve being quoted in the book - and the reason for making this wikibook is exactly that they are restricted in access...as it says in the module... anyway the main enty is http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Nanotechnology and not the overview section this discussion is added to. KristianMolhave 02:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

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Chess Opening Theory/1. e4/1...a6/2. d4/2...b5

= St. George Defence =

2...b5
White should now start to defend his pawn center. He cannot play Nc3 because of b4 but he can play /3. Nf3/ or /3. Bd3/. As few theory is available on this position, it's hard to tell whether there are other good moves. /3. g3/ sounds interesting as well as /3. f4/ or /3. c4/.

Theory table
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Talk:Movie Making Manual/Post-production/Telecine

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Wikijunior:Europe/Italy

Italy (Repubblica Italiana in Italian) is a large country in southern Europe. It shares borders with Slovenia, Austria, Switzerland and France. There are also two small countries within Italy: San Marino and the Vatican City (Holy See). The capital city is Rome (Roma). Other big cities in Italy are Milan (Milano), Venice (Venezia) and Naples (Napoli). Italy is well known for its cuisine, fashion and sports cars. Italy is a member of the European Union and uses the Euro as its currency.

Italy's History
People have lived in Italy for over 200,000 years. Around 800 BC (800 years 'before Christ'), Italy consisted of several Italic tribes and many Greek colonies that were created along the southern coasts of Italy and Sicily. The most famous of these Italic tribes are the Etruscan and the Latini. The city of Rome was part of Latium.

Between that time and 200 AD, Rome grew larger and larger and by means of war and treaties, the Romans eventually conquered all the land of Italy and the Roman Empire governed over large parts of Europe, northern Africa and the Middle East.

Italy, as a unified country, was established in 1861 although many parts of present day Italy (Veneto and Friuli-Venezia Giulia for example) didn't become part of the country until later. The last changes to the borders of Italy were in the 1950s when Trieste officially became part of Italy.

Under the dictatorship of Benito Mussolini Italy built up an empire including Albania, Libya and Ethiopia and took control of the cities of Trieste and coastal regions of present day Slovenia and Croatia (where many native Italians lived). During World War II Italy was allied with Nazi Germany. Thanks to the Partisan movement, help from the British and American forces Italy was able to overthrow the fascist government eventually. Since 1946 Italy has been a republic. The present Prime Minister of Italy is Giorgia Meloni, the first female to lead the country.

Italy's Geography
Italy is a land of contrasts and including a large coast line as well as mountains. Italy's highest mountain is Monte Bianco (known as Monte Blanc in English). The largest Italian islands are Sicily (Sicilia in Italian) and Sardinia (Sardegna in Italian). Italy's climate has resulted in a large industry for wine making. There are also two countries which are entirely surrounded by Italian territory: Vatican City and San Marino.

Italy is home to many active volcanoes and is an active earthquake zone. The largest volcano in Europe is Etna in Sicily.

Much of Italy has a Mediterranean climate with hot summers and mild winters but because of the large number of mountainous regions the climate varies enormously. Apart from in the mountains, the temperature in Italy rarely falls below 0°C and in summer often goes above 30°C.

Italy's People
The population of Italy is around 60 million - the third biggest population in the EU after Germany and France. Most people in Italy speak Italian but there are large minorities of German, Slovene and French speakers close to the borders with Austria, Slovenia and France. People in Italy have one of the longest life expectancies in the world. In the past Italy was a country of emigration and millions of Italians emigrated to countries like the USA, Canada and Argentina during the 19th and 20th centuries.

Religion
Roman Catholicism is by the largest religion in the country, although the Catholic Church is no longer officially the state religion. 88% of Italians identified as Roman Catholic, although only about one-third of these described themselves as active members. Other Christian groups in Italy include Eastern Orthodox Christians, Greek Orthodox, Pentecostals and Evangelicals. The country's oldest religious minority is the Jewish community. It is no longer the largest non-Christian group.

Education
Italy has had a state-wide public school system, or Education System, since 1859. Today, there are two stages of education in Italy: primary and secondary. Primary school commonly comes after 3 years of nursery school (or kindergarten) although it is not required. Primary school lasts 5 years. Secondary school is divided into 2 stages. The first stage of secondary school lasts 3 years and involves an exam at the end of the year. The second stage of secondary school lasts 3 to 5 years.

Sports
The most popular sport in Italy is football. Italy's national football, along with German national football team is the second most successful team in the world and were the FIFA World Cup champions in 2006. Popular sports include football, basketball, volleyball, water-polo, fencing, rugby, cycling, ice hockey, roller hockey and F1 motor racing. Winter sports are most popular in the Northern regions, with Italians competing in international games and Olympic events.

Italy's Sights
Millions of tourists visit Italy every year. It is the world's 5th most popular destination for tourists with more than 25 million visitors every year. The most popular cities for tourists are Venice, Rome and Florence. Famous sights include the Grand Canal in Venice, the Leaning Tower of Pisa and the Colosseum in Rome.

Sights from the Roman Empire like Pompeii, Naples, Ischia, Capri and Baiae are very popular with tourists.

Italy has more UNESCO World Heritage Sites (57 of them) than any other country in the world. The entire cities of Verona, Siena, Vicenza, Ferrara are World Heritage Sites.

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