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Indonesians retrieve missing recorder from crashed Russian jet

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Villagers assisting recovery efforts for a Russian passenger jet that crashed in Indonesia have found the aircraft's missing. All 45 on board were killed when the crashed during a demonstration flight earlier this month. The was found several days after the plane hit, West Java on May 9. A landslide triggered by the impact had concealed the flight data recorder, but it was uncovered today after recent rains removed some of the soil it was under. "It seems to be intact," said Ketut Purwa, who is leading the recovery. It was sent to Jakarta for examination.

The recorder was found in a ravine 30 metres from the tail, which was also located by villagers. It contains a log of technical data from the 40-minute demonstration, which aimed to attract Indonesian airlines to buy Superjet 100s.

Tatang Kurniadi, head of the, explained "The FDR emits a signal for up to a month but only if it's underwater. It doesn't work on land". In addition to the Indonesian investigation, Russian authorities have launched a criminal probe. The dead include eight Russians. Kurniadi also said work to complete an Indonesian translation of the voice recorder transcript is nearing completion.

The aircraft had asked for permission to descend to 6,000 feet shortly before the crash. It then hit the 7,200-foot mountain near Jakarta. In the midst of an Asian tour, had placed an experienced pilot in charge of the plane.

The Superjet 100 is intended to reinvigorate the Russian aviation industry, and is the nation's first new airliner since the Soviet era. With a maiden flight in 2008, it entered service last year and Sukhoi boasts 200 orders. The twin-engine jet seats around 100 and costs buyers 31.7 million.


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Buddy Roemer suspends U.S. presidential campaign

June 1, 2012

Former Louisiana Buddy Roemer suspended his 2012  Thursday morning in an e-mail sent to supporters. He cited the lack of after Americans Elect decided to not field a 2012 presidential candidate.

Roemer opened his presidential campaign in July 2011 as a Republican, focusing on and. He limited campaign contributions to $100 and rejected (PAC) money, arguing "I have deliberately chosen a path requiring the help of many because that’s the way to win and, more importantly, that’s the way to get these mighty things done after the election." He failed to make much of an impact on, and was excluded from all. Though he continued his GOP campaign, in November, he decided to seek the nomination of Americans Elect, a non-profit organization attempting to field a ticket that would be "responsive to the vast majority of citizens while remaining independent of special interests and the partisan interests of either major political party."

Roemer finally ended his Republican bid in February and announced a switch to the Reform Party, while continuing his quest for the Americans Elect nomination. He led the organization by the number of supporters, but, like all other candidates, failed to meet the party's threshold for support. As a result, the party decided earlier this month to not nominate a 2012 ticket. After the decision, Roemer expressed his displeasure to Uncovered Politics, and said he would "take a couple of days to reassess the campaign" on whether to continue seeking the presidential nomination of the Reform Party. He ultimately decided to end the campaign due to insufficient ballot access. Though Americans Elect was hoping to achieve ballot access in all 50 states, the Reform Party currently has access in only four states.

In the e-mail, Roemer thanked campaign staff, supporters, and his family. He criticized the system of "" in Washington, and called for the creation of a "team of reformers" to "re-energize our republic." To conclude, he advised supporters, "Don’t give up. Don’t lose hope. Together, we will continue to reform our country and make America great once again. We are just getting started."


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Talk:US fans turn out for 2012 Phoenix Comicon

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As you can tell from the video, I was in Phoenix for the 2012 Phoenix Comicon, among other events. My notes and video/photographic material are recreated in the body of the story. I wrote down the names of people I interviewed and a few short quotes. No long winded folks here as everybody just wanted to have fun. Those appear in the story. Crtew (talk) 23:10, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

A paragraph by paragraph rundown of sources
The reporter's notes are based on personal observation, which is a tool that is many times underused in the journalist's toolbox. It often adds more vividness to a story that quotes or documents cannot provide. Here the observation is the main tool used and it's supplemented by photos of the sources. The only sources I did not take a photo of was Pugsley and the handler from 13th Floor Haunted House, which I did on purpose because that's the staging and not show. The son and father Phelps are not photographed. And I didn't take a photo of the coordinator for media. As you can see from the video, I'm there, too. The main documents I used were the Phoenix Comicon 2012 Programming Guide, The 13th Floor Haunted House postcard, and Nyki Robertson Crosby's handout from the tunic-making class; however, these were used for finding events and people or for double checking source names. Reordered after a second pass by an editor through the story. Filled out more completely. Crtew (talk) 17:02, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Para. 1: Give credit to source Fox 10 News for the US$5 million dollar figure. In the lead, it confirms the tenth year and this is also confirmed by the Downtown Devil which states in the middle that Phoenix Comicon started in 2002. Colin Aprill told me this was the 10th year for the convention, that it was put on by volunteers only and he told me about some of the highlights going on, like the flash mob and Jon Bernthal's appearance. The programming guide says 700 volunteers put together the event. The Fox article also confirms it was at the Convention Center and this is also confirmed by the table of contents in the programming guide. Phoenix is known as Valley of the Sun.

Para. 2: As I entered the Phoenix Convention Center and headed down the escalator, I saw all of these costumed people below of various types (Personal observation listed in the third paragraph on characters which I would just recreate from the list on my notes). As luck would have it, I heard someone say aloud in the crowd, "The Comicon -- It's all about the fans." I knew intuitively I had my lead. I have no idea which person in motion or of the up-or-down variety who said that, but it just stuck. It ended up being the theme to the entire piece.

Para. 3: Give credit for the 30,000 people to the Downtown Devel source. This source also says the convention lasted from Thursday to Sunday, which is confirmed by the programming guide. The rest is my observation as noted above.

Para. 4: Sources from Camp family pictured and identified in captions (which I would just recreate here). I talked to Tony after the others said he's "the instigator." He told me the quote that I used in the article.

Para. 5: Personal observation. I walked around the entire hall at the convention center and summed it up. What I noticed outside the hall and in the hall is that people were taking pictures of their friends but also strangers in character/costume, and people like the Camps would stop and gladly pose for strangers. The fans were entertaining each other. This is all my description.

Para. 6: I talked with Manager Tim Pugsley who was monitoring his two monsters. He watches the monsters for safety reasons, but he was able to talk in between coordination. I wrote down his self description as owning the top haunted houses. While he was talking to someone else, I talked to a handler (the monsters needed to be watched for exhaustion and such) and she told me the quote about not identifying the actors in the suits to maintain the integrity of the character.

Para. 7: Pugsley identified the names of the monsters. The photos identify the human sources posing with the identified monsters.

Para. 8: Thriller per Phoenix Comicon 2012 Programming Guide, which I posted as the third image. I observed the Zombie Chicks doing the act around the hall. Sources from Zombie Chicks pictured -- not the masked guy who was part of the act but didn't really fit into the photo angle. I got the quote from Tori and the names of all the others (see photo caption)

Para. 9: I walked down autograph row in Exhibitor Hall looking at the stars and fans. I included the page from the guide that listed the three stars I mention.

Para. 10: Talked to John and his son right before I walked into the Exhibitor Hall. I asked them what they were into and they answered William Shatner. I talked to them about this and got this quote from each. I didn't take a picture of them because they didn't come in costume and we were in a crowd of people that didn't allow for a good shot.

Para. 11: See video of the largest line in the Exhibitor Hall, Jon Bernthal's Saturday and the sources are used in this paragraph all in the video and are identified in the photos. See photo and video of friends getting an autograph. Hunter pointed out to me the message on his autograph, which I wrote down and a person can read if get the photo out of thumbnail and zoom it.

Para. 12: The Programming Guide listed all the events and classes and I used that to find an interesting class. I attended Nyki Robertson Crosby's session on making A T-Tunic, shorthand for T-shirt Tunic, and I included the top of the page of her handout (the rest isn't needed because it's about how to put the costume together), which identifies her and and her character's name. I took notes while she talked, including the quote that I would just reproduce here. She talked about her organization in Phoenix and her role in it. The room wasn't ideal for photos.

Para. 13: Costumed people in the streets of Phoenix. Again, personal observation, when I ate lunch and dinner in the city and close to the center I overheard a similar conversation of people gawking and talking about the spectacle of all of these people walking around in costume. I overheard several people ask the same question, "What's going on?"

Para. 14: Talked to Colin Aprill, a volunteer who handed me a press pass. More or less, he just gave me the lay of the land. He said it was the "signature event" in the southwest and that's listed in the welcome message in the guide, but i didn't include that because the event is compared to San Diego's much larger convention, which is upcoming. I used the external site and decided to end with a future kicker about what's going on next.

Crtew (talk) 23:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I cleaned up the obscenity to make it a family friendly article. I did it in cartoon style because of the theme, but usual journalism style for many publications is to write "F___in." Just in case you were curious! Crtew (talk) 23:59, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

See the External Link for information about the San Diego International Comicon this year. Crtew (talk) 00:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Comic-con/Comicon
The term, short for Comic Convention, has multiple acceptable spellings. I used Comic-con on first use within the story, and, thereafter, used "Comicon".Crtew (talk) 05:01, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Fun!
Looks like a fun event...and a fun article! But, I think paras 1 and 8 need a re-work. The first paragraph strains NPOV....and what's up with all the names in paragraph 8? A litle confusing. Bddpaux (talk) 15:12, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Review of revision 1516755 [Not ready]

 * So a soft lead is not acceptable? In a soft lead, the first paragraph is an attention getter and the second paragraph performs the task of laying out the details.

 * That technique feels to me like burying the lead (under something soft). It reminds me of magazine articles that meander and you have to read a few paragraphs before you start to see a hint of the content you actually want, then it doesn't really start getting to the meat of the subject, in dribs and drabs, till the second or third page.  The first pass at attention-getting is the headline, and the second is the succinct-answers-to-basic-questions.  There's something iirc in the SG about how at any point where you stop reading, the stuff you've read is more important than the part you hadn't gotten to.

 * Also note that once NPOV is adjusted for, that first sentence wouldn't feel quite so light-and-fluffy anyway. --Pi zero (talk) 16:36, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Review of revision 1516946 [Not ready]

 * I can't imagine how you would use these in the review. The programming guide helped me select events and know what's going on. The other documents helped me identify my sources. Besides I can't upload them because they are copyrighted. I just can't imagine how you would even use these in the editing. Crtew (talk) 21:58, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

 * Under copyright would be why they couldn't be made public; I did address that, above.
 * Not sure what you were saying about these documents in your notes, if in fact you didn't use them.
 * I see you attributed the quote, but left the assertion of opinion in place. (It can probably be fixed by a reviewer during review; but I admit to surprise.)
 * --Pi zero (talk) 22:10, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

 * Not sure what you mean by "how you would even use these in the editing". We're talking about verification, not (necessarily) editing.  --Pi zero (talk) 22:14, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

 * @ Crtew : With the Australian Opals situation, the packet was under copyright so this was e-mailed to scoop. I also e-mailed another thing to scoop from some one for the water polo article because of the limited sourcing issues.  Everything in an article is supposed to be verifiable.  (I've lost at least one article between timeliness and because my hand written notes did not fully support the text.)  If your OR notes do not say which session you attended, what time it occurred or you don't have a source for SYNTH that tells the reviewer these facts, then it should not be used.  When multiple sources and different types of research are happening, it makes it even harder for a reviewer because you need to figure out what is happening. Basically, document and document and document more. --LauraHale (talk) 23:25, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

This is a ***simple*** observation story. All but 3 of the sources are photographed and identified in the captions and so you can see that I talked to them. I think I'm a trusted member of the community, and a lot of this story is personal observation because the event was a spectacle. Crtew (talk) 00:04, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Review of revision 1517150 [Not ready]
I went through paragraph by paragraph filling in where I got the information. I avoided just reproducing the same info in the notes, like listing the names in the notes because they are already in the captions. There is nothing more to upload. The programming is 62 pages and you only need the relevant pages to review.Crtew (talk) 17:13, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks.
 * About to re-review. (No idea, really, why I couldn't get the image resolution to behave.)  --Pi zero (talk) 17:38, 2 June 2012 (UTC)


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Australia women's water polo team into FINA Women's World League Super Finals quarter finals

June 1, 2012 Australia's overnight penalty shootout 9–7 win against the qualified the Australia women's national water polo team into the quarter-finals of the FINA Women's World League Super Finals, where they will meet the  at 9:00 p.m. AEST.

Australia was behind at the end of the first quarter, with a score of 2–3. They came back to tie up the game at the end of the second period where they scored 3 goals to Russia's 2. Both teams scored a goal each in the third, before both went scoreless in the fourth quarter. Australia won the the penalty shoot out 3–1.

,, and led Australia in scoring with two goals each. ,, and also scored a goal each.

The game marked the three hundredth cap for Australian and the two hundredth cap for. Other Australian players that competed in the match included, Beadsworth, , , Moran, , Gynther, Webster, Ralph, and Zagame.

Following the competition, Australia's head coach will make the last round of player cuts before the team heads to London for the Olympics.


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E-mail sent to scoop about this. The Australian media has not published about this yet. They are still on the game where Australia beat Canada from the previous date. My belief is the e-mail to scoop makes two sources? :)  --LauraHale (talk) 01:28, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

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About the headline: "Australia women's water polo team into FINA Women's World League Super Finals quarter finals." "Into" is not a verb, and so I'm wondering if you mean "go to"? Still the verb "go to" is "kinda" weak. You use qualified in the story. How about "move to", "head into", "push toward", or something "sportsy" without a preposition! Crtew (talk) 03:11, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * "into" isn't actually ungrammatical here, just passive voice: the verb "is" is omitted per headlinese.  Granted, active voice is preferable when we can swing it.  --Pi zero (talk) 03:34, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Definitely not ungrammmatical, but lacks some "ummph" and the headline's too long. How about "Australian women's water polo team advance to FINA quarter finals". Just a suggestion.Crtew (talk) 05:40, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


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Review of revision 1516153 [Passed]
I couldn't find anything in the sources confirming the announcement was emailed to supporters (let alone primarily emailed to supporters). --Pi zero (talk) 02:44, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll forward it to scoop because the the beginning of the last sentence doesn't make sense without it.--William S. Saturn (talk) 04:41, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


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Talk:On the campaign trail, May 2012

Review of revision 1520011 [Passed]

 * Thanks for the review. For some reason, I had thought I covered Romney bit in the West Virginia article, but apparently not. Hopefully, the use of inline citations made the verification process easier.--William S. Saturn (talk) 05:28, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm honestly not sure whether the inline citations are better, worse, or just different than the list of sources by section you used the last few months. It's an ongoing quest, to find the best way of correlating article content with sources for big articles like this.  Part of it is how I should use whatever supplementary information you've provided.  In this case, what I tried was going through the Sources section item by item and checking all the inline citations of that source, then rechecking all the passages in the article that I hadn't marked as verified during the big first pass.  I could have used the ordering of inline citations in the article, instead; tough call.  I did discover that one of the inline citations had been left out of the Sources section (so I added it there).

 * I've heard that once upon a time some sort of software was created for this sort of thing, but wasn't adopted because it was too technically challenging to ask contributors to use it. There may be a sort of conservation of complexity — one way or another, tracking the content-source correlations takes effort.  --Pi zero (talk) 14:28, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

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