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Man decapitated on Greyhound bus in Manitoba

July 31, 2008

According to a Canadian Press report published Thursday and a CNN report Friday, 40-year-old Vince Weiguang Li of Edmonton, Alberta has been arrested for allegedly stabbing and decapitating a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus in Manitoba, Canada on Wednesday night.

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) has not confirmed a beheading, which witnesses have described to the press, saying only that the suspect allegedly stabbed the victim around 8:30 p.m. CT on a Greyhound bus traveling east on the Trans-Canada Highway about 20 kilometers west of Portage la Prairie, Manitoba. Canadian Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day described the attack as "horrific" according to Agence France-Presse and "probably one-of-a-kind in Canadian history" according to the Canadian Press.

While the RCMP has not released the victim's name, the Canadian Press and CNN have reported that the deceased is Tim McLean, 22, who had been traveling from Edmonton to Winnipeg, where he lived. Two witnesses described the attack to CBC News: Garnet Caton, who was sitting in the seat in front of the victim, and Cody Olmstead, who smoked a cigarette with the victim just minutes shortly before the attack.

"He must have stabbed him 50 times or 60 times," Caton told CBC News.

Olmstead described the attack: "Like, just everywhere, arms, legs, neck, chest, guts, wherever he could swing it, he got it."

Caton and Olmstead said that the other passengers fled. When the bus driver, a passing trucker and Caton returned to check on the victim, Caton noticed the victim's head was gone. Caton said that the attacker then chased them off the bus. CBC News reported that the suspect tried to drive the bus away from the scene, but the driver disabled the engine. Witnesses have said that the attacker then paraded the removed head from a bus window.

"While we were watching the door, he calmly walks up to the front with the head in his hand and the knife and just calmly stares at us and drops the head right in front of us," Caton told the CBC.

"The guy came to the front of the door with buddy's head in his hands, decapitated. He dropped the head and went back and started cutting the body back up," Olmstead described to the Canadian Press. RCMP arrested the suspect at about 1:30 a.m. local time after a three-hour standoff. As of about 3:00 p.m. Thursday, the Canadian Press reported that the RCMP has not yet questioned the subject and had laid no charges, though he was due Friday morning in the Provincial Court of Manitoba in Portage la Prairie, according to a statement posted on the RCMP web site.

Greyhound spokeswoman Abby Wambaugh told the Associated Press that 37 passengers were aboard the bus.


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Hollywood film producers and actors have descended on the picturesque city of Ely, in Cambridgeshire, England, as they being filming for "The Other Boelyn Girl", a movie depicting the life of the sister of Anne Boelyn, one of Henry VIII's wives.

The movie is on location in Ely to use the inside and outside of Ely Cathedral as a set for part of the work.

Media and photographers from News International and other major media organisations have been gathered outside the Cathedral under tight security waiting to catch a glimpse of the three main stars of the film, Scarlet Johannsson, Natalie Portman and Eric Bana, but the movements of the three stars are being kept tightly under wraps.

This is the second time Ely Cathedral has been used as a film location in 15 months. Last May, Hollywood descended for the first time and spent two weeks in the city filming for the movie "The Golden Age."

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There is more information on this story for those that have time to add it. I don't as I have to leave work now. —Calebrw (talk) 21:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I have heard that the one who killed him started to eat him. This is unconfirmed though so its best to take this with a grain of salt. --204.112.189.143 15:49, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Toronto sun/star says yes. See also youtube recording of police radio chatter. --142.77.229.86 02:25, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * --142.77.229.86 02:50, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

It is far too late to add that to the Wikinews article. If there are enough sources and new information, a new article can be started. Cheers, --SVTCobra 03:00, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


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NASA to extend the Phoenix probe mission by 5 weeks

August 1, 2008 The Phoenix probe that was sent to Mars has had its mission extended. Part of Phoenix's mission was to chemically analyze soil samples, and to confirm the presence of water ice. The ice was confirmed by the use of an instrument that can identify vapours; a small sample of ice within Martian soil was heated until it melted at 0°C (32°F), the melting point for water. The original mission was planned to be funded for a 3 months, with the cutoff in late August. However, as a result of the probe's good condition, NASA has stated that its mission will be extended by 5 weeks, till September 30.

"Phoenix is healthy and the projections for solar power look good, so we want to take full advantage of having this resource in one of the most interesting locations on Mars," said the Head of NASA's Mars Exploration Program, Michael Meyers. An additional expense of US$2 million will be incurred because of the extension, on top of the US$420 million that has already been spent. This will allow for two more trenches to be dug, which will be dubbed as "Cupboard" and "Neverland".

The Phoenix probe landed on Mars on May 25 of this year near the north pole of Mars, where the ice was discovered. The ice was found in a trench approximately 5cm deep referred to as "Snow White". "It's been very successful and Mars had proven itself to be very interesting, mechanically the spacecraft is operating great, and there's plenty of power margin to carry us beyond the waning summer," said Meyers.

The original goal of the mission was to determine if the red planet was capable of supporting life. Phoenix is in the process of performing experiments to determine if ice ever melted in Mars' history. In addition it is searching for the organic-based compounds that are necessary for life forms to exist.

Phoenix's principal investigator Peter Smith told the press conference that "we hope to be able to answer the question of whether this was a habitable zone on Mars. It will be for future missions to find if anyone is home on this environment."

Unlike the twin Mars Exploration Rovers which has now been operating on Mars for several years, the Phoenix Lander itself is expected to cease operations entirely by the exit of 2008 when the harsh Martian polar winter takes over and the low temperatures most likely will leave the Lander's instruments irreparably damaged.


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Tennis star Sharapova out of Olympics

August 1, 2008

International tennis star Maria Sharapova will miss the 2008 Beijing Olympics because of a shoulder injury sustained during the WTA Rogers Open in Montreal, Canada.

Sharapova, 21, defeated Poland's Marta Domachowska during the second round of the Open, but was in pain during the three-hour match.

"This is something that needs a lot of time to heal. It really hurts me to say I have to miss the Olympics," she said on her official website, according to the BBC. "After Wednesday's match I knew there was something seriously wrong with my shoulder." "There are so many mixed feelings because on Wednesday night they were   almost positive there was something wrong with my nerve, which could have    ultimately been much more serious," Sharapova said, according to The Daily Telegraph. "But after Thursday morning's tests, for the first time in a while, they   were able to give me a different answer and a different problem. This is something that needs a lot of time to heal. It really hurts me    to say I have to miss the Olympics."

The Associated Press reports that Sharapova, three-time Grand Slam champion, has has two small tears in tendons in her shoulder, discovered through an MRI exam and other medical tests.

The tennis section of the Olympics will start on August 11 and run through to August 15. The U.S. Open tournament will start Aug. 25 and the Associated Press reports that Sharapova may also miss that tournament.

The Daily Telegraph reports that Sharapova joins former world    No 1 and Athens Olympic silver medalist Amelie Mauresmo and fellow French    star Mary Pierce on a list of tennis players not competing in the 2008 Olympics.

The Kommersant reported Friday that Elena Dementieva, Svetlana Kuznetsova and Dinara Safina will play for Russia in Beijing.

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Talk:NASA to extend the Phoenix probe mission by 5 weeks

Uh... there is a little problem with this story. The sources are kinda... wrong, as they often are about science stories. For a few days leading up to this press conference there were rumours flying around in *press circles* (no where else of course), that NASA was going to announce that water ice had been found on Mars, and that this was a big deal (some prepped stories even had a "first water ice found off the earth" spin to them, which is just laughable). The problem is, none of the journalists involved bothered to even google the subject. If they had, they'd have realized that water ice had been confirmed on Mars DECADES ago. That would not be news. In any case, when the NASA press conference was given, it had nothing to do with "water found on Mars". It was about an extension to the Phoenix mission, and a status update (dug some new trenches, played with the oven some more, etc), nothing more.

This entire story is nothing more than a screw up by the AP which propagated through the other news agencies due to the fact that they all copy each other. It isn't news, and it shouldn't be reprinted here. In fact, not only is this AP story a misrepresentation, their entire coverage of the Phoenix mission has gone from obnoxiously uninformed to flat out wrong. So I guess this story isn't much of a change for them:P.

So if we're going to publish this story, I think we should go straight from the NASA press release, which would be more accurate. Gopher65talk 04:53, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

This article's ice side is not news ice on Mars was discovered quite a while ago. Jamieleshaw (talk) 08:06, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

The press conference was about the confirmation of H2O ice in the TEGA oven, among other things - previous attempts to analyze the white layer beneath the soil chemically had failed due to troubles getting the samples in the oven - and the recent success of that objective was clearly the result that the scientists were the most excited about, though several other new results from the mission were reported at the conference as well (laser experiment, panorama photo etc.) Yes, ice looking stuff had been observed visually on Mars some decades ago and maybe determined to be water-ice from orbit with some fancy spectrography or whatever, but this mission has actually gone down there, found ice, dug ice out, lifted it into a lab and finally determined its melting point by heating it with such accuracy that it couldn't conceivably be anything but H2O. This, I think, was the achievement of this discovery - showing that ice could actually be dug out and worked with as humans would - that it wasn't just some repository of some compound with a signature similar to water, inaccessibly buried underneath the rock or whatever. --83.89.0.118 12:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Phoenix lander confirms presence of water ice on Mars
This was covered in June. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:51, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * To add to this, from the above article...

In June 2007 the ESA's Mars Express spacecraft discovered ice deposits in the South Pole of Mars that are larger than the state of Texas. Scientists say that there is enough water in the deposits to cover the entire planet with up to 36 feet of water if the ice was to melt.
 * So, realistically, this is not such big news. it is confirmation that what was reported in the above article is actually H2O ice and not something else - but not a big drama/major revelation. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:23, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Then what is the soloution, merging the articles or, something else? The Mind's Eye (talk) 14:18, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe the soloution is to focus on the extension of the mission. The Mind's Eye (talk) 14:19, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That's what I was thinking. Focus on the mission extension, with maybe some moderately indepth description of the chemical analysis that Phoenix is performing on the soil, and what that is telling us, and what it will tell us. Gopher65talk 21:26, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope I have fixed the problem. The Mind's Eye (talk) 23:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Much better:). I fixed a few factual errors (the probe won't be leaving Mars, for instance), but you did a good job of laying out the real story, unlike the AP reporter who first covered this:). Gopher65talk 02:24, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the good report card Gopher. Good call on the probe not leaving mars, I forgot it wasn't a airplane, just kidding. Power to newbies!!! The Mind's Eye (talk) 02:33, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The 'confirmation' in the article linked above was a bit speculative in that it relied on the observation of white material disappearing from one photo to the next, after which the team concluded that the white material had sublimated and therefore most likely was ice - but really all sorts of things could have happen between those two shots, which were either days or hours apart. If a Martian hadn't tampered with the site, at least winds could have blown the white material away or covered it very subtly. Only a chemical analysis, as described in my post above, would suffice as 'real' confirmation. --83.89.0.118 12:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * They did a analysis notice this sentence in this article, "The ice was confirmed by the use of an instrument that can identify vapours; a small sample of ice was heated until it melted at 0°C (32°F), the melting point for water." That is reference enough. The Mind's Eye (talk)20:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Cross-talking :) The first 'confirmation' from Phoenix, as reported in the article linked to by Brian McNeil, was visual and a bit speculative. The second confirmation was, as you say, experimental and very bullet-proof. --83.89.0.118 23:03, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

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The MECA team was mysteriously missing at the NASA press conference - it was even commented on by the audience there - and the panel seemed to dodge the question as to why the MECA were absent. Now a, somewhat sensationalist, story is surfacing that MECA has made a significant discovery, most likely more significant that the confirmation of the presence of water-ice: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/WH08018.xml&headline=White%20House%20Briefed%20On%20Potential%20For%20Mars%20Life&channel=space Speculation as to what has been discovered is now open, but, as the article points out, the Phoenix is not able to detect signs of life, past or present. --83.89.0.118 17:49, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It obviously has something to do with the soil as the Aviation Week article states, notice this article too, NASA says Martian soil could sustain life. Oh and the paragraph u added to this article, if u have a source that would be great. The Mind's Eye (talk) 20:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The discovery described by the article you link to was an earlier one pertaining to alkalinity - it was covered on the press conference. The one White House was briefed about is a separate yet-to-be-announced discovery. I'm quite anxious to hear what it is myself :) Updating the article with a source for the last paragraph. --83.89.0.118 23:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * In response to both of your latest responses, so this article checks out fine then, and thank you for clarification on the new discovery. The Mind's Eye (talk) 23:15, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh and the source you added was the same as the Reuters one. The Mind's Eye (talk) 23:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries I fixed it. The Mind's Eye (talk) 23:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, good. Wasn't sure what you meant for a while there but I realize now that I had copied/pasted the entry for the Reuters and forgot to change the URL, sorry. Anyway, yes I think the article checks out quite nicely now. With regards to my reply in the section above, I was just responding to claims that the result from the TEGA wasn't newsworthy, which I believe it is. I started another article for the most recent discovery. --83.89.0.118 05:26, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


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Somebody...
Hassss isssssues. --TUFKAAP (talk) 05:17, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Schizophrenia
It appears the attacker is a schizophrenic, it seems to be the most logical explanation for the event. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.141.245.158 (talk) 10:12, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

While it does appear that he may be a schizophrenic, it is not the only logical explanation for the event. There are a few logical explanations for this event. Until we know all the facts we really cannot make these assumptions. But it is very likely that he was schnizophrenic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.101.116.100 (talk) 13:58, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE VICTIM AND HIS FAMILY
NOBODY SEEMS TO HAVE THEIR CRAP TOGETHER ON THIS STORY .EVERYONE IVE READ THUS FAR SAYS HE WAS 18 THEN ITS 20 THEN ITS ANOTHER AGE NOR WERE THEY EVEN ACCURATE ABOUT THE STABBING COUNT. I READ ONE WHERE IT WAS 40 TO 50 NOW ITS 50 TO 60 .I WISH PEOPLE WOULD GET THEIR SHIT RIGHT.MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE YOUNG MAN AND THEIR FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND I HOPE THAT SCUM BAG GETS THE WORSE PUNISHMENT .THE DEATH PENALTY WOULD BE IDEAL ,BUT I KNOW CANADA DOESNT HAVE ONE AS FAR AS I KNOW.
 * Jeeeez let's calm down here ... why do you have to know the exact age immediately? Also, didn't your mama teach you any manners? All caps is a no-no! :) Wikidsoup (talk) 16:50, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

DONT BE IGNORANT
you mustnt assume about him being schizophrenic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.208.219.116 (talk) 14:30, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Schizophrenia is a horrible, frightening, and debilitating condition. Its portrayal in popular culture is disgusting, and simply doesn't do justice to the sheer terror and sensory overload that a sufferer can experience. If you think it is bad that someone suffering from this can scare you, try and consider their position; they're likely scared of every single person on the planet - whether it is people in the vicinity, or people that might pop into their head from memory. During an attack the line between suspicion and distrust, and paranoid delusions breaks down. A sufferer can convince themselves that someone who is concerned and trying to help has a knife hid behind their back ready to kill them.
 * I am in a position where I can make the above comment, and have had the very unpleasant insight into the potential world of terror within which a schizophrenic lives. About ten years ago, I had an "episode"; no, I'm not schizophrenic, something which it took doctors about two years to convince me of, but I was under extreme stress, getting minimal sleep due to having a five hour (each way) commute; I was also managing my partner's messy divorce from a violent and exploitative husband who she had fled from. For me, what pushed me over the edge was discovering that said thug had obtained a firearm and was actively seeking our location to kill both of us. This cocktail of circumstances was simply too much and I broke. The same can happen to anybody, just hope that if this demon ever calls at your door you are not a threat to others and can still catch enough of a thread of reality to grasp at a genuine offer of a way out and help. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:53, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

How about some factual news ?
Victim:22-year-old Tim McLean from Winnipeg

Suspect: 40 year-old Vince Weiguang Li from Edmonton

Lots of news linkage: http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/Manitoba/2008/08/01/6328131.html http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=ba3498aa-995c-4f03-92f7-1a3cb0c79532 http://www.sootoday.com/content/news/full_story.asp?StoryNumber=33662 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.164.98.39 (talk) 15:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Too late to add. Sources dated after an article's publication should not be added. A new article should be started. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:55, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Cause the police STILL haven't officially released the Victim's name, and at the time, no one was sure if Tim was even the victim. And even if he was, no one knew anything about him. What's come out now is from his friends and family, but, as Brian says, it is too late to edit this particular story with that new info. If a follow up gets written, I'm sure it will have the newly released information in it. Ditto for the suspect. Initial reports were all eye-witness accounts, and, despite what UFO enthusiasts tell you, eye-witness accounts are totally useless. They were all claiming the guy was a 6 foot tall muscular monster who could have torn them limb from limb. In reality he is short and looks like he couldn't lift a pillow unassisted. Gopher65talk 04:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

This is one ov those WTF things...

seriously, what the f —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.31.3.181 (talk) 23:25, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Canadian Media Lies About the History of Vince Weiguang Li
Canadian media outlets are apparently lying about Vince Weiguang Li. It is no doubt that he killed an innocent passenger on the Greyhound bus, but it is his history that is being manipulated.

The Canadian Government claims that Li came to Canada in 2001. This is false, since Li came to Canada in 2004.

One can be granted Canadian citizenship if they have lived in Canada for 3 years without incident. This is suspicious, since most immigrants get the citizenship usually in 4 years, however, Li got it in 2007, in almost EXACTLY 3 years.

Li is also a member of Falun Gong, an extreme Anti-Chinese group, as evident here: (words are in Chinese) Is this without incident?

Li then hopped from job to job, but had strained relations with fellow co-workers. Before Li committed murder, he sold his laptop to a 15 year old boy for $60. It is not known what the laptop contains.

Afterward, he committed the horrific murder.

However, the Canadian Media still tells their altered story about Li, probably because they support the Falun Gong in the recent so called "propaganda wars" against developing nations.

So when shall the truth be revealed?

-99.243.227.60 00:40, 8 August 2008 (UTC) C. Winkins

 * You will have to do some original reporting if want that point of view heard. —Calebrw (talk) 14:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

This is crazy! It sounds like something from a scary movie, not something that would happen in Canada! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.50.132.28 (talk) 20:08, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


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Potential Wikia mass exodus

August 1, 2008

Recently Wikia, a commercial company co-founded by Jimmy Wales and Angela Beesley, announced that it would be making changes in the appearances of its wikis, specifically making advertising more prominent. This change to mix advertising directly into the content has led many Wikia hosted sites to begin discussions regarding leaving Wikia hosting for their own. As Wikia's business model hinges entirely upon user-generated content, large numbers of sites leaving could leave Wikia in financial trouble. Wikia has lost editors and volunteer "janitors" as a result of this.

Some changes were made to make sure Wikia doesn't lose its community; one of them being the ability for logged-in users to turn off advertisements in their personal preferences, which would eliminate the ads from all other pages except the main pages of different Wikia wikis. However, this didn't help much and several wikis, most notably the Transformers Wiki advised their users to switch to Firefox browser and install the AdBlock plugin to remove advertisements. The problem was the excessive advertisements on every content pages which most of the Wikia communities didn't agree with.

Since the new Monaco skin version 3.1. was rolled out across all Wikia-hosted wikis, Wikia introduced a set of "main page column tags" meant to aid in main page designing while minding Wikia's new advertisements. Most, if not all Wikia's English-language wikis, such as Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki, Wiki 24 and WoWWiki have converted their main pages to use these new main page column tags. Wikia's "helpers", people working as interns for Wikia, have helped to convert wikis to the new main page layout. However, some wikis, such as the Transformers Wiki opposed the change to their main pages and thus refused to convert their main page to use the main page column tags. Newly-created Wikia wikis will have a main page that has the main page column tags by default.

Certain Wikia-hosted communities have criticized their host for trying to make Wikia look like one big website to please the advertisers when the communities would prefer to stay independent from other Wikia's wikis.

During the rollout of the new Monaco skin, the phrase "Wikia will never host pop-up adverts." was removed from Wikia's terms of use and later reinstated into the terms. Several users thought that this might hint of upcoming pop-up ads at Wikia.

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I'm not much of a writer
I'm not much of a writer. Hopefully someone can take what I've started and turn it into something real. I do have one other link with links and background info, especially to wikia sites pro/con moving. http://pastebin.com/d25c72da7 -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 05:49, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

happening again now
Interesting. It looks like this is happening again now, with the removal of Monaco and enforcing of New Wikia skin. --71.238.31.206 (talk) 10:50, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It has happened now. Dozens of wikis have already left, including the largest wikia, World of Warcraft. The staff, particularly Sannse, is blocking and demoting editors and deleting pages which mention better alternatives.
 * Competitor Shoutwiki is now offering the old Monaco skin
 * The exodus is much larger, and the staff repression is much more severe. This could be a new article.
 * Adamtheclown (talk) 16:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Anyone want me to write it? Also, this article has some grammtical issues that need to be addressed. However, I don't see how I can edit it!WIERDGREENMAN (talk) 22:37, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The article is archived, and fully-protected. If you want "those grammatical issues to be addressed", then poke us here with an editprotected request. Diego Grez return fire 22:41, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

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User:Brian McNeil/Random musings

It is interesting to reflect on how Wikinews has developed since I first signed up around three years ago. At that time you could look in on the project in the morning, check recent changes, and you would see everything since you last looked the previous evening; five articles a day was a good day. Today, it is somewhat of a letdown if we don't make ten in a day, which - all things considered - is pretty good for such a small team of what? 15-20 dedicated volunteers. Yet, we're hitting around 500-1000 edits per day, something that would be interesting to compare to the early days of Wikipedia. You really can't make a comparison with the Wikipedia of today, it is the 800lb gorilla that nobody can ignore.

There have been ups, there have been downs, and there has been some internal strife during my time here. Neutralizer became such a disruptive force within the project that an arbitration committee was formed. Those around at the time of that "strife" will recall that the disruption was not limited to Wikinews and his determination to use every and any wiki platform to attack and criticise the U.S. government had cross-wiki consensus established that he cease and desist or get reported to his ISP. In the run up to that I made an effort to steer him away from articles where his belief was that Wikinews was a glorified mouthpiece for the U.S./Israeli POV. It was a waste, and when I gave up and spoke frankly I was briefly blocked for "great incivility". Yes, I have a block log; this will come as no surprise to some of the more conservative (with a small "c" - not in political terms) community members who have perhaps not experienced trolling and disruption elsewhere.

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UN renews Darfur peacekeeping mission

August 3, 2008 The United Nations Security Council has extended its mandate for the joint UN-African Union peacekeeping force in the Darfur area of Sudan. The resolution, adopted to extend the United Nations/African Union Mission in Darfur (UNAMID) mission, was approved by 14 of the 15 Security Council members. The United States abstained from the vote, saying that the language used in the mandate undermined efforts to bring Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir to justice for war crimes.

The vote comes a day after the UN responded to a report by the Save Darfur Coalition that said the Darfur peacekeeping force lacks enough personnel and essential equipment. The UNAMID force currently has only 9,500 troops deployed out of an assigned 26,000, which it blames on Security Council bickering and the demands of Sudan's government.

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User talk:Joowwww

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! --Brian McNeil / talk 11:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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Gunman kills three in Wisconsin shooting

August 1, 2008

The Associated Press reported early Friday that a camouflaged gunman opened fire, killing three, on a northeast Wisconsin river Thursday night.

A fourth person was wounded when the gunman opened fire at about 5:30 p.m. The four victims had gathered to go swimming near the East Kingsford railroad bridge over the Menominee River near Niagara, Wisconsin. The river forms the border between Wisconsin and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.

The suspect used a military-style assault rifle from a distance of 7 to 10 feet from one victim, Marinette County Sheriff Jim Kanikula said.

The Associated Press reports that a manhunt involving over 100 officers from more than 10 agencies searched for a man described as a "middle-age man who was last seen near the town of Niagara."

The alleged gunman, Scott J. Johnson, 38, of Iron Mountain, Michigan was taken into custody at about 8:30 a.m. local time approximately 100 yards from the bridge where the shootings occurred, according to early reports.

The Daily News reported that the suspect surrendered into police custody. At 9:43 a.m. the search was ended by authorities after a suspect was captured just after 9:00 a.m. CDT Friday. At 12:25 p.m., the Star Tribune released the name of alleged gunman.

The Star Tribune and the Associated Press reported the names of the victims: Tiffany Pohlson, 17, Anthony Spigarelli, 18, and Bryan Mort, 19. Twenty-year-old Daniel Louis Gordon was wounded. All were from Michigan.

The four victims were part of a group of nine young adults by the bridge. The Star Tribune reports that there was no communication between the attacker and the group.

Johnson is in the Marinette County Jail awaiting an arraignment hearing that has yet to be scheduled.

Agence France-Presse reports that about 30 people were evacuated from the area.

Niagara is about 210 miles north of Milwaukee, across the state line from Michigan's Upper Peninsula.


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Bush claims violence in Iraq down to lowest level for four years

August 1, 2008 George W. Bush, the current President of the United States, yesterday claimed that the level of violence in Iraq has decreased to the lowest level since Spring 2004. In a speech made yesterday, Bush claimed that "Violence is down to its lowest level since the spring of 2004, and we're now in our third consecutive month with reduced violence levels holding steady." He then said that "a significant reason for this sustained progress is the success of the surge."

Bush also praised the security forces of Iraq. He cited their "increasing capability" as another reason for the reduction in violence. "We saw the capability of those forces earlier this year, when the Iraqi government launched successful military operations against Shia extremist groups in Basra, Amarah, and the Sadr City area of Baghdad," he said. "Because of these operations, extremists who once terrorized the citizens of these communities have been driven from their strongholds." The President continued by stating that the Iraqi government has made progress. "Iraqi Council of Representatives has passed several major pieces of legislation this year, and Iraqi leaders are preparing for provincial elections," he said, listing ways in which he believed the Iraqi government have progressed.

Bush continued by discussing the withdrawal of troops: The progress in Iraq has allowed us to continue our policy of ‘return on success.’ We now have brought home all five of the combat brigades and the three Marine units that were sent to Iraq as part of the surge. The last of these surge brigades returned home this month. And later this year, General Petraeus will present me his recommendations on future troop levels -- including further reductions in our combat forces as conditions permit.


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Wikinews:Briefs/August 1, 2008

Wal-Mart warning U.S. managers about labor bill
Rueters and the Wall Street Journal reported today that Wal-Mart executives have begun warning store managers and other employees about the implications of Democratic victory in the United States 2008 Presidential race.

The Employee Free Choice Act, which aims to "amend the National Labor Relations Act to establish an efficient system to enable employees to form, join, or assist labor organizations, to provide for mandatory injunctions for unfair labor practices during organizing efforts, and for other purposes."

Wal-Mart opposes the EFCA which would allow for "workers to unionize by signing a card rather than holding a vote," Rueters Reports.

"We believe EFCA is a bad bill and we have been on record as opposing it for some time," Wal-Mart spokesman David Tovar told Rueters. "We feel educating our associates about the bill is the right thing to do."

The Wall Street Journal cites conversations with about 12 employees in seven states.

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IEEE approves S1600 & S3200 transmission standards

August 4, 2008 The Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) approved two new IEEE 1394 Firewire standards last week.

S1600 and S3200 — which enable data transmission rates up to 1.6 Gbps and 3.2 Gbps respectively — would make Firewire (Apple's name for the standard) theoretically four times faster than is currently possible.

According to IEEE, the new standards are based on IEEE 1394b (FireWire 800) Standard. The new standard will allow peer-to-peer transfer without linking computers. In addition, the S1600 and S3200 standards will continue supporting the S400 and S800 previous standards through backward compatibility.

"The new standard includes all of the amendments, enhancements and more than 100 errata which have been added to the base standard over the last 12 years," Les Baxter, chair of the working group which developed the standard, said in a press release cited in several sources. "This update provides developers with a single document they can rely upon for all of their application needs."

The standard should be ready for deployment in October. Though not as common as the USB standard, Firewire serves a niche market, especially the aviation industry.

USB 3.0, the next generation of the competing USB standard, is due in 2010 with reported speeds of 4.8 Gbps.


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Suspect in 2001 anthrax attack dies of apparent suicide

August 1, 2008

A man about to be indicted by the United States Department of Justice died Tuesday. His lawyer has called the death a suicide.

Bruce Edwards Ivins, 62, was taken to Frederick Memorial Hospital in Frederick, Maryland, where he died of an overdose of Tylenol and codeine, the Los Angeles Times reported Friday.

Ivins, who worked at the biodefense laboratories in Fort Detrick, Maryland for 18 years, was about to be charged by the Justice Department in connection with the 2001 anthrax attacks, which killed five people and infected 17 others.

Ivin's lawyer, Paul Kemp, insisted that his client had no role in the attacks, which targeted politicians in Washington DC, and members of the media in New York City and Florida.

"For six years, Dr. Ivins fully cooperated with that investigation, assisting the government in every way that was asked of him," Mr. Kemp told the New York Times. "The relentless pressure of accusation and innuendo takes its toll in different ways on different people, as has already been seen in this investigation. In Dr. Ivins’ case, it led to his untimely death."

Both the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times report that Ivins assisted the FBI and other agencies in the investigation after the 2001 attacks.

The Los Angeles Times reports that Ivins was reinvestigated beginning in 2006 after FBI Director Robert Mueller changed the case's leadership. Before then, the only labeled "person of interest" was Steven J. Hatfill. He has since been cleared and paid between $4.6 and $5.82 million by the U.S. Government as part of a settlement stemming for 2003 law suits filed against the Justice Department and government officials, including former Attorney General John Ashcroft.

The New York Times also reported that a spokesman for Hatfill said that rushing to judgment in the case is a mistake.

“Everybody is jumping to the conclusion that because this guy committed suicide, he must be the anthrax killer,” Mr. Clawson told the New York Times. “That is a lousy premise. The pressure of these F.B.I. investigations on individuals is phenomenal, and it is quite likely that this guy cracked under that pressure but had nothing to do with the killings.”

The New York Times reports that Ivins had been undergoing psychiatric treatment within the last month and had a restraining order placed on him by a woman he was allegedly stalking and threatening.

According to National Public Radio (NPR), mental health professional Jean C. Duley requested that Frederick County court issue a "peace order", a type of restraining order, against Ivins in July. Duley submitted documents to the court which show a history of "homicidal actions, threats and plans."

The New York Times also reports that Ivins was a religious man. Members of his congregation gathered early Friday to pray for him at St. John the Evangelist Roman Catholic Church in Frederick.

The Associated Press cites one of Ivins' colleagues who said he had been removed from his work area as he was thought to be a potential threat to others. According to NPR, one colleague said he was "emotionally fractured by the federal scrutiny."


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World's first double arm transplant undertaken in Munich

August 2, 2008 A 54-year-old German farmer who lost both arms in a farming accident six years ago has become the first patient to receive a complete double arm transplant. The patient, whose name has not been released, underwent the operation at the Klinikum rechts der Isar, part of the Technical University of Munich (Technische Universität München), last week; he is said to be recovering well.

The operation lasted 15 hours and was performed by a team of 40 specialists in Plastic Surgery, Hand Surgery, Orthopedics and Anesthesiology, under the direction of the head of the Plastics and Hand Surgery department, Prof. Hans-Günther Machens, Dr. Christoph Höhnke (Head of Transplants, Senior Physician; Plastics and Hand Surgery) and Prof. Edgar Biemer, the former Chief of Plastic Surgery at the Clinic.

In a press statement released by the clinic, it was revealed that the patient had been thoroughly physically checked and had psychological counselling prior to the surgery to ensure he was mentally stable enough to cope with the procedure. Since completion of the surgery, the patient has been on immuno-suppressant drugs to prevent rejection of the new limbs.

Following the surgery, the press release from the clinic's press manager, Dr. Tanja Schmidhofer, included the following statement: The flow of blood was [re-]started in intervals of 20 minutes because the anaesthetists had to make sure that the patient would not suffer from the blood flowing back from the transplanted parts. No significant swelling was seen, nor indeed any ischemia (lack of blood flow to the tissues). This is a testament to the surgeons who established a fully functioning blood flow…the main nerves, the Musculocutaneus, Radial and Ulnar nerves were all attached and sewn together, and finally an external fixator was applied, with pins in the lower and upper arms, avoiding the risk of pressure points and sores. The operation was successfully completed after 15 hours.

Without the immuno-suppressant drugs given to the patient, the risk of there being a Graft-versus-Host Reaction or GvHR, would have been significant due to the upper arm containing a large amount of bone marrow, consisting of ICC's or Immuno-Competent Cells, which would have triggered a near total rejection of the new limbs. A GvHR is a condition which results in the cells from the transplant attacking the immune system of the body.

Indications from the clinic suggest that the double attachment went well, although it could be up to 2 full years before the patient is able to move the arms.

The donor arms came from an unnamed teenager, who is believed to have died in a car accident.


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Here are two sources, which you may or may not choose to use:

More: http://news.google.com/news?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&client=firefox-a&tab=wn&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&ncl=1232129570

Collaboration Credit
A collaboration credit is placed here for the user Kju, of the German language Wikinews staff, for the source of the English Press Release to this story. Thor Malmjursson (talk) 21:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

 * In fact it was the german press release i located and i just helped translating one sentence. I don't know about the procedures here in en-wn but shouldn't the sources list the correct - german - title of the press release with a hint that the text is german? -- Kju (talk) 07:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Bush claims violence in Iraq down to lowest level for four years

Thank God for General Petraeus--66.229.12.186 20:05, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * General Petraeus?? It's the iranians that are keeping the shia militias in check... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.148.21 (talk) 20:26, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

 * can ou elaborate on that a bit? - Imind (talk) 20:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't say it... Someone from the US military said it on an interview on TV... Come on... It's clear who runs Iraq, and it's not the US... Who is the only person to go there, and be welcomed with state honors? The iranian president... Which country has set up in Iraq a shadow government of only shia members? Iran! From the US, only "surprise visits" to avoid their asses being blowned off... Sad, but true. The US gave Iran what they wanted for so many years... A grip in Iraq. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.151.219 (talk) 21:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

of course this is just speculation, bush hasnt seen it first hand. or has he?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.150.204.16 (talk) 09:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

"Bush claims he's dumbest he's ever been in seven years" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.166.175.146 (talk) 06:10, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Great, so now the extremists will have time enough to plan their next attack on US or European soil instead. Thank you, Bush. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.89.0.118 (talk) 07:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

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Explosion in Turkey kills seventeen

August 2, 2008

Reuters, AFP, the Associated Press are reporting that a gas explosion in a Turkish school killed at least seventeen girls Friday.

Reuters reports the initial death toll at sixteen, with 27 injured. The number of deaths later rose to 17 when a body was removed from the rubble. Two survivors were pulled from the rubble as rescuers worked into the night. One girl is still missing.

"We won't stop until we find her," village mayor Mehmet Demirgul, told the Associated Press.

About fifty students and teachers were in the school, where some had gathered on for Islamic study in the three-story structure in the village of Balcilar, near Taskent in the Konya province.

Merve Avci, a 13-year-old, slightly injured student spoke to the Anatolian news agency: "I was in the part of the building which didn't collapse with five of my friends immediately after the explosion, and we felt flames rising from the downstairs to upper floors."

Anatolian says that Avci was in the process of washing before pre-dawn prayers, when a noise in the building's kitchen led Avci and some teacher to investigate. She says she saw a loose gas pipe before being ordered back to her room. She says she smelled gas coming from somewhere above her room before the explosion.

"We think the collapse was caused by a gas canister explosion in the building, given the burns on the injured," Konya province health service official Galip Sef told Reuters.

Mayor Demirgul said a leak in a pipe carrying liquefied petroleum gas is the probable cause of the pre-dawn blast.

"We are hearing voices. I believe those inside the rubble will be saved," Demirgul told reporters, according to the Associated Press and Reuters.

The Associated Press reports that a small portion of all three stories of the building were left standing. This is confirmed by images displayed on the Reuters website.

The building is owned by a religion foundation and is under investigation when Turkish authorities found an non-approved annex to the structure, according to AFP.

The explosion is unrelated to the bomb blast in northern Turkey on July 28.

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Bell Canada to discontinue beaver mascots

August 1, 2008

Today, Bell Canada Inc.'s beaver mascots Frank and Gordon were discontinued as of Friday. A nation-wide full page ad depicting the beavers as saying "It's been a blast, [but] Nature is calling and we have been invited back to the forest to become teachers for a whole new generation of spokecritters."

The decision to discontinue the mascots was a symbol that Bell is under new management said spokesman Mark Langton. "It was time for a change. The beavers have served us well, they were very well known and quite popular and well known. But it's time to move on."

The two mascots were developed Quebec Cossette Communication Group in 2005 as Jules and Bertrand. A year later, they became Frank and Gordon nationally. There were both positive and negative reactions to the beavers.


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Best I'm aware, words like "claim" have a bit of a POV to them (suggesting that it's a claim against the general conception) and are under the "words to avoid" guidelines. I would suggest that this should be considered for renaming and replacing "claim" with "states"/"says" or something similar. Cheerio. 77.127.253.51 21:10, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


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U.S. House Republicans continue speaking after lights turn off

August 1, 2008

The United States House of Representatives adjourned at 11:23AM today for its annual summer recess, but some of the members refused to go home.

Minutes after the House adjourned, (-) began typing in random access codes to the House speaker system until he found one that worked. He then began talking about the urgent need for a new energy policy. The microphones were turned off again, but Shadegg called other Republicans onto the floor to initiate what C-SPAN called a "post-adjournment session." Some representatives were already going home when they received notice of the "session" and returned to the floor to speak about an offshore drilling bill which (-) had blocked from the schedule. There was no or parliamentary procedure for the "session"; Republican speakers were cheered on and Democrats were booed down, and  (R-CA) mocked the Democratic energy plan by parading an image of a Volkswagen Beetle with a sail on the top around the chambers. Republicans sent pages back to the House office buildings to look for a megaphone.

Democratic leaders expelled journalists from the Hall of the House, first from the Speaker's Lobby, then from the third floor press gallery in order to minimize coverage of the political theater. In response, Republican representatives walked into the quickly filling visitors' galleries, shaking hands and talking with tourists and interns. Democrats twice turned off the lights, eliciting cheers. The sound system and official cameras were also shut off early in the afternoon.

At 4:29PM Wikinews correspondent Shii arrived on the House floor but quickly discovered that no cameras were allowed inside the visitors' galleries, and the galleries were being closed by the. The scene was orderly but noisy, as scores of visitors cheered and applauded the Republicans before being escorted out of the galleries by the police. The only people remaining on the floor at that point were the Republicans, who left the room to speak to reporters, and the visitors and staff they had invited onto the floor as guests.

(R-) circumvented the ban on cameras inside the House by using his Blackberry to send messages to his microblog and recording brief snippets of video with his digital camera. (One Twitter user noted that this was a violation of House communications rules.) At a press conference outside the House floor, Culberson showed off his Blackberry and camera, accompanied by brief, improvised speeches by other House Republicans.

"Nancy Pelosi, we want a vote!" demanded (R-CA). The Republicans then returned to the floor, even though all the galleries were closed.


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Any details about what they actually talked about? Wikidsoup (talk) 21:33, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

 * In the Politico, AP, NYT, and other sources they do actually devote quite a bit of coverage to the vote the Democrats filibustered and what the Republicans were speaking about. This information should have some coverage in the wikinews article, otherwise it comes off as rather a POV anti-Republican slant.--Quadrastreet (talk) 22:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Prime example: the wikinews article ends with '"Nancy Pelosi, we want a vote!" demanded Wally Herger (R-CA). The Republicans then returned to the floor, even though all the galleries were closed.', which comes off as indicating that the Republicans were off their rockers. From reading the sources, though, the "vote" that the Republicans want is explained quite thoroughly, as well as information indicating that Pelosi intentionally blocked the vote from taking place.--Quadrastreet (talk) 23:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

While Pelosi did block the vote, there was no way they could have forced that vote to the floor by talking after hours. It was a political stunt, although turning off the lights was kind of harsh. Shii (talk) 23:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Shii - I appreciate the edit that added, "floor to speak about the offshore drilling bill which Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) had blocked", but should it not be changed to reflect the fact that it was the vote that was blocked, and not the bill itself? At least that's what I get out of the source articles.--Quadrastreet (talk) 23:46, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, actually, this Dallas News journalist makes a good point:

 * The theater closed at 5 p.m. tonight. Could you imagine what might have happened if Democrats had left the lights on, and C-Span kept its camera rolling? The GOP might have been tempted to dispatch members to talk for hours at a time over the next five weeks. Oh, now I see why the Democrats kicked reporters out.

Shii (talk) 23:37, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I find it absurd that people now think it is polite behavior to simply yank the "published" tag off a story without explaining specific problem areas. This definitely did not happen when I wrote my other articles in 2006. Shii (talk) 03:13, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

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The talk page is missing OR notes to back up the OR tag in the Sources section. Cirt (talk) 03:14, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about? I went to the Original reporting page and it told me that I should make notes of whatever interviews I conduct. But I didn't talk to anyone, I just popped in and had a looksie. Shii (talk) 03:15, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There should be some sort of OR notes on the talkpage of some kind, for verification purposes and for journalistic integrity. (As opposed to nothing) Cirt (talk) 03:16, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, here goes.

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Thanks, that is much better. Cirt (talk) 03:20, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I am a congressional intern.
 * I went to the third floor of the Capitol to observe what was going on; they told me to put my camera away so I did so, and when I came back the galleries were being forcibly closed.
 * I did not participate in the event and I was not part of the audience.
 * I went back to the office and watched the press conference on C-SPAN.
 * Shii (talk) 03:19, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Is there anything else I need to do before the article is "published" quality? Shii (talk) 03:23, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Reviewed/changed tag to Publish. Most interesting stuff. Cirt (talk) 03:26, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


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I would like to call for a boycott of all things California. Wine, cheese, milk, fruit, etc. Until Nancy Pelosi cares about the rest of America and allows a vote on drilling. It is not even about a yes or no vote, but the opportunity to vote. If Madame Speaker can not be bothered to work, then do not send money you work for to her state.---
 * If the oil companies want to drill some oil in the US, they can choose from the hundreds of sources they already are allowed to use in US but are not. There is no need for them to get additional resources in environmentally-sensitive areas. The Republicans are trying to come up with a way to blame the Democrats for the high prices while oil companies refuse to increase production, thus artificially reducing the supply and thus increasing their profits.
 * For example, opening up the restricted Arctic refuge area would, at its greatest effect and assuming the most optimistic levels of production, reduce oil prices by 2006$1.44 per barrel, or about 1% of today's price. That would reduce the price you pay at the pump, for example, from $4.20 a day $4.16 (assuming an optimistic one-to-one corrolation). It's also expected that OPEC countries would just reduce their output accordingly, causing there to be absolutely no effect at all on price US Deparment of Energy.
 * In my opinion, the best way to reduce energy prices in the long run, is to tax the oil companies that are making record profits, and use that income to fund research and deployment on alternative energy, particularly renewable. If so, we could probably see a return on our investment within those ten years, and probably to a far greater effect than this "drop in the bucket" would effect.
 * Even if all restrictions on oil sources were to be lifted, the oil companies would have no incentive to increase production significantly - why would they want to stop making record profits? 76.191.135.178 23:33, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Sweet! The Republican's just get more & more childish every year! Either their tank the U.S. or cease to be a viable party eventually. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.195.153.165 (talk) 23:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

It is not about price it is about independence. Drilling on leases that were given, KNOWING that oil is not on the leased land isn't helpful. Drilling would produce jobs, artificial reefs, like the rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. I know, I fish there. GLOBAL WARMING IS A THEORY. The ice caps are at a 30 year high mass. Polar Bear numbers are in excess of 20,000 up from 5,000. Red snapper, redfish and other large species of fish LOVE the oil rigs of the Gulf Coast and Hurricane Katrina DID NO DAMAGE to the rigs. Save the planet by letting people live without asking permission from Saudi Arabia. Food is brought by truck, train, and ship to grocery stores. It is just stupid to replace food crops with "ethanol" crops. Starving people is not the way to prove a point.

Personally, I think both Democrats and Republicans are out of touch. I am tired of being talked to like a four year old by democrats. I am ready to replace all of them. I am readying my pitchfork and torch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.236.146.88 (talk) 01:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You're right, energy independence is a good thing, however as I previously said (with a different IP address), drilling in protected regions would be a "drop in the bucket" in our supply. If we want to be energy independent, we need to decrease our energy use, and use renewable energy sources. Manufacturing solar panels, windmills, even building nuclear plants would also create jobs.
 * It's unclear if artificial reefs have a net benefit. While certain species of fish may like artificial reefs, not necessarily all components of our complex ecosystem do; you have to look at the entire system before you can make a judgment over the value of something. Alone, saying that certain species of fish like something is meaningless.
 * Food is brought by truck, train, and ship to grocery stores indeed, and all of those transportation methods require fuel. It is in fact a major part of food costs in the United States because it's a rather expansive country. It is not necessarily stupid to use ethanol as a fuel source (although personally I have no opinion on it). Advantages are that it will increase the price of corn, which would make corn syrup less popular and thus potentially benefit the health of Americans. Also an increase in the production of corn could also have potential benefits; in the case of a food shortage, corn production could be diverted from fuel to food. As for food production, the world today has no inability to produce an ample supply of food to feed everyone; we will simply not starve to death short of any major natural disasters, war, gross mismanagement, or a population boom. On the other hand, corn as a fuel source is particularly inefficient, it takes more energy to grow than it produces in the form of ethanol.
 * Finally, and most importantly, global warming is a fact (ipcc.ch). That global warming is an anthropogenic (human-caused) process is the theory. Gravity is also a theory. Please don't use the word "theory" without knowing what it means. While impossible to absolutely prove the cause of global warming, in 2006, statistics indicated that there is an 84% chance that anthropogenic factors account for most observed sea-surface temperatures (ucar.edu). (in 2001, it was 66%, and in 2007, 90% (ens-newswire.com, nationalgeographic.com). To analogize, suppose NASA were to report that there were a 90% chance that an asteroid were to strike the earth in 50 years. Sure, there's a 10% chance it won't, but it would probably be a good idea to get started on solutions for blasting it into pieces or striking it off course right away. It is silly to ignore the problem, when we should be looking at it as an opportunity.
 * America, with its position of leadership and technology can and should definitely lead the way in both achieving energy independence and putting the world down the path of renewable energy. It would be good for our economy, too, at least in the long run. I thank you for reading my entire essay if you did. 68.123.44.50 06:26, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Typical politics, long over due for pitchforks and torches. This "green fascism" is becoming increasingly ridiculous, people will conserve on their own terms, not by the anti-corporation/pro-socialism agenda. The democrats pulled an incredibly childish move, becoming more hypocritical than ever, so much for the democrats of old and hello to socialists. 68.189.148.241 02:53, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Amazing...
It's true... As days go by, the US looks like the Soviet Union in its end days... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.193.204.77 (talk) 09:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Wait here, so these Republicans violate the very policies at their own work place and yet we are supposed to hate the people that obeyed those policies? For these Republicans we are to respect every rule they make but they aren't? What, are they aristocrats or something? That's just going to start some new anti-short-pants movements. Drilling bullshit is a talking point and the ramp up for anything even close to that where there is no repeat NO existing infrastructure is just ignorant. Give Americans something we can use. 72.154.55.113 17:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


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Does anyone know why it'll cost an extra $2m to keep running the probe? Surely the only cost would be people on Earth monitoring the status of the probe.

 * That is the cost of running the monitoring stations, having scientists analyze the data, and paying people to sit there day and night and direct the probe, and troubleshoot any problems which crop up. Nothing comes free, and deep space monitoring arrays are expensive. Gopher65talk 04:22, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


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Obama heckled in Florida

August 2, 2008

Three men held up a sign reading "What about the black community Obama?" at a town hall meeting in St. Petersburg, Florida where presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama was speaking on stage Friday.

According to the video shown on the BBC website, Obama stopped speaking, while the camera zoomed in on the men. Other attendees began repeatedly chanting "Yes we can!" a common phrase used by Obama and his supporters.

Obama addressed the men, saying: "Excuse me young men, there's going to be a question and answer session, so you can ask a question later. Let me make my statement. Why don't y'all sit down? Then you can ask a question, that's why we're having a town hall meeting. Sit down."

The men remained standing and appeared to be addressing Obama, but the video did not include audio of the men at that point. Obama told the men that they "would have a chance to ask your question, but you don't want to disrupt the whole meeting. Just be courteous, that's all. All you have to do is be courteous." "Just be courteous and you'll have a chance to make your statement. Just relax, that's all," Obama added as the men surrendered their sign to a woman who appeared to be a campaign staffer.

The video then cuts to one of the men addressing Obama. "Why is it," the man asks, "that you have not had the ability, to not one time speak to the interests and even speak on behalf of the oppressed and exploited African American community or Black community of this country?"

"Alright," Obama replies. "Everybody, I want everybody to be respectful. That's why we're having a town hall meeting. This is democracy at work."

The video then cuts to Obama responding. The video does not indicate what, if any, time had passed. "The only way we're going to solve our problems in this country is if all of us can come together: Black, White, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, young, old, disabled, gay, straight, that I think should be our agenda. All right?"

While Senator Obama is speaking, the crowd begins a standing ovation and at least two people can be seen exchanging a high five. The video ends there.

A blog post by Jonathan Weisman of the Washington Post was able to fill in some of the blanks that the video misses.

The town hall meeting was in the Gibbs High School gymnasium and the demonstrators were activists from the International People's Democratic Uhuru Movement (IPDUM), according to Weisman. "Uhuru" is a Swahili word for freedom.

Weisman says that the IPDUM is a socialist pan-African group who accuses Senator Obama "of ignoring the plight of poor blacks targeted by predatory lenders, police brutality and racist attacks."

Weisman goes on to say that one of the hecklers was St. Petersburg resident Diop Olugbulu, 31 who said, "all these attacks are clearly being made on the African community." This may be the missing unheard words, but that is not clear from the post.

Weisman reported that Obama went on to address all the issues the hecklers raised, including "the shooting of Sean Bell in New York to the prosecution of the Jena Six in Louisiana to predatory lending targeted at blacks and Hispanics."

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Wikinews previews the 2008 Australian rules football International Cup

The International Cup is Australian rules footballs world cup. The 2008 event is being held in Melbourne to celebrate 150 years of Australian rules football.

Currently the nation winning the International Cup is considered a distant second to Australia, who does not compete at the cup. This is because the difference in skill level between Australia and the next best country is quite considerate. The Australian Football League still names an All-Australian team anyway.

Group A
New Zealand compete after playing against a touring Maffra side, who play in the West Gippsland Latrobe Football League. The match played in Auckland on August 2nd. The final result for this match was a win for the Maffra side 13 goals 13 behinds 91 to 3 goals 1 behind 19.

2005 Japanese captain Michito Sakaki was the first non-Irish internationally based player to play at AFL level.

New Zealand have been grouped with Samoa, Japan and cup debutant India.

Group B
2002 and 2005 runners up Papua New Guinea are set to play a trial game in Coolongatta before heading off to the cup. “Unless Mal Michael’s allowed to play, we’ve got no height” says coach Andrew Cadzow. Michaels plays for the Brisbane lions in the AFL.

The Peace Team, a combined Israeli-Palistinian team, is a cup debutant. It is being sponsored by The Pratt Foundation.

"It's going to be a very interesting team," said foundation chief executive Sam Lipski. "Trying to get Palestinian, Arab and Israeli kids together to play football, it's quite an achievement."

{{w|Great Britain men's national Australian rules football team|Great Britain]] come off the AFL Great Britain Northern Grand Final between Newcastle Centurians and Middlesborough Hawks. The match being won by the Centurions 11 goals 15 behinds 81 to 4 goals 13 behinds 37.

Plans are also in the works for a National Championship between The Centurions and southern Champions, the Southampton Titans.

PNG, The Peace Team and Great Britain have been grouped with Narau.

Group C
2005 third place getters the United States are generally considered the bench mark of this group. However the Danes enter the competition off the back of the national grand final.

With the Olympics in Beijing this year, the Beijing Bombers will play a demonstration match in the Chinese capital during the games. The Bombers will supply players to the Chinese national team for the Cup.

China, the USA and Denmark are joined in the group by South Africa.

Group D
"We have Finland up first on August 27th and we are now totally focused on that game, but at the end of the day, you have to beat them all and we believe we are capable of doing just that," Canadas General Manager Martin Walter has commented in a recent interview.

The Canadians bring a mix of experience and youth to their third International Cup. They are being financially supported by Foraco Drilling, Quantec Geoscience and Laramide Resources Inc; three of Canada's multi-national mining companies.

"This has put the team into a strong financial position, and that allows us to bring the best football talent that the Ontario Australian Rules Football League and other Canadian leagues have to offer," Walter says.

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Is there any current event in the article, or is it just saying what will happen in three weeks? (Also, OR notes are needed) Anonymous101talk 08:08, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Both. Lead up matches (NZ v Maffra, Danish grand final, PNG match in coolongatta etc) will be included --RockerballAustralia (talk) 22:53, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Original Research
My research is primarily from the New Zealand AFL, the AFL, and World Footy News websites. Some email interviews are planned. This article dosn't have to be published for a week or two. --RockerballAustralia (talk) 09:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Preview?
This article doesn't do much previewing. 74.125.74.35 23:00, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Unsourced information
This article contains a lot of unsourced information. --SVTCobra 18:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

There are also other problems, such as "International Cup champions are considered a distant second to Australia." What does that even mean?

And it is very confusing to read with all the jumping back and forth between country and team names. --SVTCobra 18:27, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Fix team names ✅, Clarify "distant second to Australia" ✅

 * Is there a source for the full brackets and all participants? --SVTCobra 00:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Yes. Soure has been added --RockerballAustralia (talk) 04:40, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I still don't understand how "International Cup champions are considered a distant second to Australia." How can a football team be second to a country? Are they second to Australian champions? Or are the second to any Australian team? It is very confusing. --SVTCobra 00:49, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I've changed the wording in that sentence to clear that up. Hopefully it is better understood now. --RockerballAustralia (talk) 04:40, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Not publishable
I think that this article cannot be published as the newest source is over a month old, so it cannot be focusing on a current event. Anonymous101talk 09:50, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Just checked the sources, and the newsest source is from two days ago. I've just put an old one first. --RockerballAustralia (talk) 10:01, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * oops, sorry. Anonymous101talk 10:10, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Mistakes happen. was that the only thing stopping this article being published?--RockerballAustralia (talk) 10:17, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

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 * That category is already there. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:24, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

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European football: Tottenham defeats Celtic 2 - 0

August 2, 2008 Tottenham Hotspur defeated Scottish team Celtic Football Club 2 – 0 with goals coming from Darren Bent and new signing David Bentley.

The game was a pretournament friendly exhibition game between the English and Scottish sides at the Feyenoord Jubilee Tournament in {{w|Rotterdam]], Netherlands. Celtic were last season's Scottish Premier League champions. Tottenham Hotspur finished 11th in the English Premier League last season.

Bentley, the {{w|Pound sterling|£}}15 million new signing and English international scored in the eightieth minute with veteran Bent first opening up the scoreboard after a mistake in the 24th minute by Celtic defender {{w|Paul Hartley}} allowed Bent to pounce and score a goal past Celtic keeper {{w|Artur Boruc}}.

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Spurs: Gomes; Zokora (Gunter, 83), Dawson, Woodgate (Bale, 45), Assou-Ekotto; Lennon (Bentley, 45), Huddlestone (King, 62), Jenas, Modric (O'Hara, 83); Berbatov, Bent Subs: Jansson, Gilberto

Celtic: Boruc; Hinkel, McManus (O'Dea, 45), Caldwell, Wilson (Naylor, 61); Hartley (Donati, 73), S Brown, Robson (Caddis, 56), McGeady; McDonald, Vennegoor of Hesselink (Samaras, 62) Subs: M Brown, Balde


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Harkishan Singh Surjeet, Indian politician dies at 92

August 1, 2008 Indian politician Harkishan Singh Surjeet has died of a heart failure at the age of 92.

Surjeet served as General Secretary of the Communist Party of India from 1992 to 2005 and was a member of the party's Polit Bureau from 1964 to 2008. Before joining the Communist Party of India (Marxist) he was part of the Communist Party of India which he joined in 1936. After the Indian independence in 1950, Surjeet went underground for four years.

His health was declining and for the first time missed the CPI(M) Polit Bureau in April 2008. He had been in hospital since July 25. His funeral is set to take place on August 5.


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Wikinews Shorts: August 3, 2008

Broadway adaptation of "Little House on the Prairie" may be made
The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported Friday that an adaption of the Laura Ingalls Wilder book series Little House on the Prairie may be headed to Broadway.

Broadway producer Ben Sprecher is impressed with the sales figures released by the Guthrie Theater in Minneapolis, which has put on an original production based on Wilder's Little House on the Prairie series.

"It certainly informs us that the brand has value," Sprecher the Star Tribune. "'Little House on the Prairie' is a brand that people want, and it's our responsibility to make sure it lives up to its name."

A Broadway would have to wait until next season, the Star Tribune reports, citing several trade journals.

The Guthrie show, which starts August 15, will have a 93-performance run, unprecedented in the theater's history.

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At least seven mountaineers die while climbing K2

August 3, 2008

At least seven mountaineers have died while climbing K2, the second highest mountain in the world. The accident was reportedly caused by a rock slide or an avalanche that severed all the ropes used for ascent and descent.

Initial reports state that seventeen climbers ascended the mountain in two groups, with both reaching the summit successfully. The reports also state that after the avalanche, some climbers attempted to return without ropes.

The summit was covered in clouds late yesterday afternoon and the conditions in the mountain continued to deteriorate. Some of the latest reports indicate that eight climbers were stuck at the summit, unable to descend. Four of these climbers are Norwegian nationals. The conditions at the summit during night are extreme and offer very limited chances for survival for people unable to descend.

In an unrelated incident, a Serbian climber and his sherpa fell down during the initial descent. This incident was, however, unrelated to the other deaths caused by the avalanche.


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Bristol Harbour Festival 2008 lauched, 200 thousand expected to attend

August 2, 2008

The Bristol Harbour Festival 2008, which is expected to have 200,000 people attending over the weekend, has been launched in the British city of Bristol. The event features a variety of different bands and circus acts. The festival resulted in the closure of some of the roads in the centre of Bristol. Well known ships from the Royal Navy were also displayed in the event.

Organisers have claimed that the event is the biggest free event in the South West of England. The director of the event told BBC News that "it is a unique opportunity for a weekend of celebrations of the Bristol harbourside and its yachting and shipping history."

Bristol was a major port in the 18th and 19th century, and the city's involvement in the slave trade, and its abolition in 1807 has been highlighted in previous years of the festival, which was launched in 1871.

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K2 death toll rises to eleven For updated news. —Calebrw (talk) 16:27, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

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OR Notes
I attended the event. This can be proved by the photographs (shown in the article) which are taken by me. Virtually all the article is based on what I saw today or what I remember from previous events. (The second paragraph uses info from the cited source and the event programme) Anonymous101talk 17:13, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you give more OR notes info as to date/time you attended, if you took any notes at the event, etc. ? Cirt (talk) 18:10, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * According to my bus tickets I left at 13:22 and returned at 16:44 today. I made a few notes a tthe event, although I wrote most from memory. Anonymous101talk 18:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks. Cirt (talk) 18:14, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Review
Reviewed and tagged changed from Review to Publish by Cirt (talk). Reviewed for factual accuracy, readability, value/newsworthiness - all checks out. Nice work, Cirt (talk) 18:16, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


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Talk:Explosion in Turkey kills seventeen

Review
Article went through Review by, who added the Publish tag -. Cirt (talk) 17:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)