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 * Talk:Community of Christ sues over RLDS church name/Comments
 * Talk:Court decision means Floyd Landis loses Tour de France title/Comments
 * Talk:Court papers filed on behalf of God respond to lawsuit by Nebraska Senator/Comments
 * Talk:Craig Stebic named person of interest in wifes disappearance/Comments
 * Talk:Creationism dangerous in education: Council of Europe resolution/Comments
 * Talk:Cuba asks to re-open negotiations with United States/Comments
 * Talk:Cuban dissidents hold rare public meeting/Comments
 * Talk:Cuban leader Fidel Castro congratulates Hugo Chavez/Comments
 * Talk:Dan Rather files lawsuit against CBS/Comments
 * Talk:Disney theme parks to rid trans fats internationally/Comments
 * Talk:Dissident meeting held in Cuba/Comments
 * Talk:Dow Jones closes at all-time record high/Comments
 * Talk:Downing Street welcomes new resident cat/Comments
 * Talk:Dr. Joseph Merlino on sexuality, insanity, Freud, fetishes and apathy/Comments
 * Talk:Drew Carey to replace Bob Barker as host of "The Price is Right"/Comments
 * Talk:Drug-resistant staph deaths surpass AIDS in the United States/Comments
 * Talk:Drunk coach driver arrested after crash injures at least 30/Comments
 * Talk:Dutch MP advocates proscription of Koran/Comments
 * Talk:Dwarf gets penis glued to vacuum cleaner/Comments
 * Talk:English Wikinews publishes 10000th article/Comments
 * Talk:European Commission might impose an embargo on chinese products/Comments
 * Talk:Evo Morales wins presidential elections in Bolivia/Comments
 * Talk:Experimental AIDS vaccine fails; volunteers now infected/Comments
 * Talk:Explosion reported near New York City train station/Comments
 * Talk:FEMA employees pose as fake reporters during press conference/Comments
 * Talk:Fears grow about U.S. dollar stability/Comments
 * Talk:Federer wins fifth Wimbledon title/Comments
 * Talk:Finland scrambles fighter jet to respond to Russian aircraft/Comments
 * Talk:Fire kills six, badly injures seven in Croatia/Comments
 * Talk:First Airbus A380 delivered/Comments
 * Talk:Fish consumption by New Yorkers has led to high blood mercury levels/Comments
 * Talk:Flooding in Slovenia leaves six dead/Comments
 * Talk:Ford offers US$78 million for Romanian auto plant/Comments
 * Talk:Former Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau criticised in new book "Brian Mulroney: Memoirs 1939-1993"/Comments
 * Talk:Former US First Lady, Lady Bird Johnson dead at 94/Comments
 * Talk:Four jackpot winners confirmed in US 'Mega Millions' lottery drawing/Comments
 * Talk:Four killed as helicopter escorting Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf crashes/Comments
 * Talk:Four young girls killed in Zambia wall collapse/Comments
 * Talk:Fox News security hole exposes 1.5 million users' personal information/Comments
 * Talk:France warns of war with Iran/Comments
 * Talk:Fred Thompson to make Presidential announcement on The Tonight Show/Comments
 * Talk:Fred Thompson: Iraq had WMD in 2003/Comments
 * Talk:Fresh pictures of Castro and Chavez shown in Cuban media/Comments
 * Talk:Fugitive Cuban soldiers in failed skyjacking/Comments
 * Talk:Furry fans flock to Further Confusion 2007/Comments
 * Talk:Garuda Indonesia Flight 200's pilot's marital problems may have affected judgement/Comments
 * Talk:Gay Talese on the state of journalism, Iraq and his life/Comments
 * Talk:Gay World Cup begins in Buenos Aires/Comments
 * Talk:Geelong wins AFL Grand Final against Port Adelaide/Comments
 * Talk:General Petraeus: 30,000 troops may be able to leave Iraq by next summer/Comments
 * Talk:German man arrested for selling screws worth $155,000/Comments
 * Talk:German police arrest three in imminent terrorist plot/Comments
 * Talk:Germany's minister of defence proposes to shoot down hijacked planes/Comments
 * Talk:God responds to lawsuit by Nebraska Senator/Comments
 * Talk:Gordon Brown becomes Prime Minister of the United Kingdom/Comments
 * Talk:Half of life could go extinct by century's end, warn eminent biologists/Comments
 * Talk:Hamas begins to use force to release Alan Johnston/Comments
 * Talk:Hamas preparing for Israeli 'incursion' into Gaza
 * Talk:Hamilton County CSEA Steal Support from Four Year Old/Comments
 * Talk:Heart specialist suffers heart attack in front of thousands of colleagues/Comments
 * Talk:Highway bridge in Minneapolis, Minnesota, collapses/Comments
 * Talk:Home video captures alleged UFOs in Haiti/Comments
 * Talk:Hugo Chavez meets Iran's Imam Khamenei/Comments
 * Talk:Human Rights Watch implicates 600 in war prisoner abuse/Comments
 * Talk:Hundreds of monks arrested in monastery raids; continue protests/Comments
 * Talk:Hurricane Dean forecasted to become "catastrophic" Category 5 storm/Comments
 * Talk:Hurricane Felix now Category 5/Comments
 * Talk:Immigration raid at Ohio poultry plant/Comments
 * Talk:Interview with Sue Gardner of the Wikimedia Foundation/Comments
 * Talk:Interview with musician John Vanderslice/Comments
 * Talk:Iran unveils part of its nuclear program/Comments
 * Talk:Iran warns disruption of oil may be a consequence of U.S. "wrong moves"/Comments
 * Talk:Iranian President Ahmadinejad speaks at Columbia University/Comments
 * Talk:Iraq's President supports U.S. Senate plan to decentralize Iraq/Comments
 * Talk:Iraqi authorities demand that U.S. sever all contracts with Blackwater/Comments
 * Talk:Iraqi peace talks to begin in Finland within days/Comments
 * Talk:Israel declares Gaza Strip 'enemy entity'; preparing for military incursion/Comments
 * Talk:Israeli website reports speculation over U.S. attack on Iran in April/Comments
 * Talk:Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe resigns/Comments
 * Talk:Japanese man retains title at Air Guitar World Championship in Finland/Comments
 * Talk:John Howard announces $560 million for medical research/Comments
 * Talk:John Vanderslice plays New York City: Wikinews interview/Comments
 * Talk:Jon Stewart to host 2008 Oscar telecast/Comments
 * Talk:Large earthquake rattles Indonesia; Seventh in two days/Comments
 * Talk:Laura Bush in Saudi Arabia to promote breast cancer awareness/Comments
 * Talk:Law banning same sex marriages in Iowa 'unconstitutional' says judge/Comments
 * Talk:Libertarianz discusses a free state with Wikinews/Comments
 * Talk:Libya frees foreign HIV medics/Comments
 * Talk:Litvinenko murder suspect running for MP/Comments
 * Talk:Locals claim to have witnessed multiple UFOs over north London/Comments
 * Talk:MLB: Rangers score 30 runs against Orioles in first game of doubleheader/Comments
 * Talk:Man with grenades arrested outside US embassy in Austria/Comments
 * Talk:Maoists quit joint-government in Nepal/Comments
 * Talk:Mass suspensions and relief of duties after US B-52 flew with armed nuclear missiles/Comments
 * Talk:Materazzi reveals slur he uttered at 2006 FIFA World Cup/Comments
 * Talk:McGuinty wins re-election in 2007 Ontario, Canada general election/Comments
 * Talk:Meteorite blamed for mysterious illness in Peru/Comments
 * Talk:Movie 'The Assassination of Jesse James' leaked on the internet/Comments
 * Talk:Myanmar protesters beaten by police/Comments
 * Talk:NASA prepares to launch mission to nearby asteroids/Comments
 * Talk:NASA says star system contains 'earth-like planet' in the making/Comments
 * Talk:NBA: Minnesota ready to trade Kevin Garnett to Boston/Comments
 * Talk:NHL: Vancouver Canucks showcase new uniform/Comments
 * Talk:Nail bomb explodes beneath UK teacher's car/Comments
 * Talk:National Football League: Quarterback Brett Favre breaks record for touchdowns/Comments
 * Talk:Nauru to hold parliamentary elections/Comments
 * Talk:Neola North wildfire in Utah blamed for three deaths/Comments
 * Talk:Nepal: CPN-Maoists quit government/Comments
 * Talk:New England Patriots Top New York Jets/Comments
 * Talk:New York City homeless man allegedly torched by teenagers/Comments
 * Talk:New Zealand Marilyn Manson concert evacuated due to fire scare/Comments
 * Talk:New audiotape attributed to Osama bin Laden released/Comments
 * Talk:New bill will ban Muslims from wearing veils at polls/Comments
 * Talk:New doubt over Shakespeare's authorship/Comments
 * Talk:New species of dart frog discovered in Colombia/Comments
 * Talk:Nine Firefighters Killed In South Carolina Blaze/Comments
 * Talk:Nine firefighters killed in South Carolina blaze/Comments
 * Talk:No evidence of dead terrorists in US bombed Pakistan village/Comments
 * Talk:Nobel laureate Doris Lessing: 9/11 'wasn't that terrible' compared to IRA attacks/Comments
 * Talk:Noel Cox talks to Wikinews about New Zealand's constitutional monarchy/Comments
 * Talk:Nokia Inc. announces plans for iPhone rival/Comments
 * Talk:North Korea agrees to disable its main nuclear reactor/Comments
 * Talk:North Korea to dismantle nuclear facilities this year/Comments
 * Talk:North Korea wants light-water reactors/Comments
 * Talk:North and South Korea sign peace pact/Comments
 * Talk:O.J. Simpson arrested for assault and other charges/Comments
 * Talk:O.J. Simpson named suspect in robbery/Comments
 * Talk:O.J. Simpson posts bail in alleged robbery/Comments
 * Talk:Obesity and the Fat Acceptance Movement: Kira Nerusskaya speaks/Comments
 * Talk:Obesity rates rise across most of the U.S./Comments
 * Talk:Oil prices at new high on fears of Turkish attack in Iraq/Comments
 * Talk:Ontario Votes 2007: Interview with Family Coalition Party candidate Blaise Thompson, St. Paul's/Comments
 * Talk:Ontario Votes 2007: Interview with Family Coalition Party candidate Joel Kidd, Beaches-East York/Comments
 * Talk:Ontario Votes 2007: Interview with Green candidate Mark Grenier, Welland/Comments
 * Talk:Ontario Votes 2007: Interview with NDP candidate Paul Johnstone, Bruce-Grey-Owen Sound/Comments
 * Talk:Ontario Votes 2007: Interview with Progressive Conservative candidate Jim Chapman, London-Fanshawe/Comments
 * Talk:Ontario Votes 2007: Interview with Progressive Conservative candidate Penny Lucas, Kenora—Rainy River/Comments
 * Talk:Opera singer Luciano Pavarotti dies at age 71/Comments
 * Talk:Opium production in Afghanistan reaches record highs/Comments
 * Talk:Opposition leader takes early lead in Sierra Leone presidential run-off elections/Comments
 * Talk:Osama bin Laden to release message to US on 9/11/Comments
 * Talk:Osama bin Laden to release message to US on six year anniversary of 9/11/Comments
 * Talk:Over 30 killed in Mexico dynamite truck explosion/Comments
 * Talk:Party video game banned in UK for having offensive word/Comments
 * Talk:Peace activists propose 'Fast for Freedom'/Comments
 * Talk:Peace talks between Sunnis and Iraqi Shi'ites begin in Finland/Comments
 * Talk:Pelicans held on suspicion of being drunk/Comments
 * Talk:Pelé cries as his son admits to marijuana addiction/Comments
 * Talk:Penguin swims ashore in Peru/Comments
 * Talk:Peruvian crater caused by meteor/Comments
 * Talk:Pet parrot saves owners lives/Comments
 * Talk:Pittsburgh playwrights pen furry musical, invite Anthrocon attendees to observe reading/Comments
 * Talk:Plane from Los Angeles to London diverted/Comments
 * Talk:Plotter of USS Cole attack freed from prison/Comments
 * Talk:Police called to investigate after tenant draws swastikas in landlord's house/Comments
 * Talk:Police station attacked by car bomb in Basque Country, two officers injured/Comments
 * Talk:Police station attacked following illegal rave/Comments
 * Talk:Pope to lift restrictions on Latin Mass/Comments
 * Talk:Prayers on TV mandatory in Iran/Comments
 * Talk:President Bush defends U.S. interrogation tactics/Comments
 * Talk:Press conference to be held Thursday on new 'Star Trek 11' movie/Comments
 * Talk:Putin promises to complete Iran's nuclear reactor/Comments
 * Talk:Queues form outside struggling UK bank; calm urged/Comments
 * Talk:Registered sex offender arrested for luring MySpace teenager to meeting/Comments
 * Talk:Reports: Parents of missing girl Madeleine McCann are suspects in her disappearance/Comments
 * Talk:Reports: US to label Iran's Revolutionary Guard as 'terrorist organization'/Comments
 * Talk:Residents in Seattle, Washington will soon ride the 'S.L.U.T.'/Comments
 * Talk:Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science officially deemed a charity/Comments
 * Talk:Riot at Guantanamo Bay detention camp/Comments
 * Talk:Riyo Mori is crowned Miss Universe as Japanese after 48 years' absence/Comments
 * Talk:RuPaul speaks about society and the state of drag as performance art/Comments
 * Talk:Rudy Giuliani embraces "missile diplomacy"/Comments
 * Talk:Rumors false about Britney Spears on Sesame Street/Comments
 * Talk:Rumors say US to remove North Korea from list of terrorist nations/Comments
 * Talk:Rumsfeld calls Afghanistan a 'big success'/Comments
 * Talk:Russia claims North Pole by planting flag on seabed/Comments
 * Talk:Russia tests 'world's biggest non-nuclear bomb'/Comments
 * Talk:Russian polar submarine TV footage faked/Comments
 * Talk:Russian prime minister resigns at President Vladimir Putin's request/Comments
 * Talk:Satirist Stephen Colbert runs for U.S. President/Comments
 * Talk:Scandinavian Airlines System landing gear failures prompt grounding of Bombardier Q400s/Comments
 * Talk:Scientists uncover oldest known DNA on Earth/Comments
 * Talk:Scientists: appendix has purpose/Comments
 * Talk:Search for Steve Fossett continues/Comments
 * Talk:Second grader suspended from school after drawing disturbing picture/Comments
 * Talk:Second video of Osama bin Laden surfaces/Comments
 * Talk:Security camera records 'unexplainable' object in Sante fe, New Mexico/Comments
 * Talk:Settlers steal Palestinian water in the West Bank/Comments
 * Talk:Seven caves found on Mars: NASA/Comments
 * Talk:Shinzo Abe's LDP suffers set-back in Japanese elections/Comments
 * Talk:Silent protest in Athens over recent fires/Comments
 * Talk:Singer Britney Spears faces hit and run charges/Comments
 * Talk:Singer Britney Spears loses custody battle/Comments
 * Talk:Smoking ban in England comes into force/Comments
 * Talk:Smoking in public places banned in France/Comments
 * Talk:Some Gaza Strip students to go without textbooks/Comments
 * Talk:Soprano Beverly Sills dies at age 78/Comments
 * Talk:Source of UK foot-and-mouth outbreak discovered/Comments
 * Talk:South African reggae star Lucky Dube shot dead in attempted hijacking/Comments
 * Talk:South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun to meet with Kim Jong-il/Comments
 * Talk:Space Shuttle Endeavour to return to Earth on Tuesday/Comments
 * Talk:Spain arrests entire leadership of the Basque Separatist Party: 22 detained/Comments
 * Talk:Sprint Nextel customer service rep. harasses client; Sprint cancels his account/Comments
 * Talk:Squirrel banned from Finnish supermarket/Comments
 * Talk:Student arrested over "art" shirt with exposed wiring at Boston Airport/Comments
 * Talk:Student questioning Senator Kerry is tasered/Comments
 * Talk:Student who put feet on chair walks free/Comments
 * Talk:Students pass out forcing Michigan school to evacuate/Comments
 * Talk:Studies: raw fish risky/Comments
 * Talk:Study links breast cancer to high meat consumption/Comments
 * Talk:Study says CO2 levels rising faster than anticipated/Comments
 * Talk:Study says CO² levels rising faster than anticipated/Comments
 * Talk:Study says carbon dioxide levels rising faster than anticipated/Comments
 * Talk:Supergerm deaths soar, surpass AIDS in the United States/Comments
 * Talk:Supporters of Canadian youth held in Guantanamo gather, demand action/Comments
 * Talk:Surveillance cameras in New South Wales schools cause alarm/Comments
 * Talk:Survey: Denmark, Finland are world's least and Myanmar, Somalia are world's most corrupt countries/Comments
 * Talk:Survey: Finland is the world's greenest country/Comments
 * Talk:Suspected poisonous gas found in New York/Comments
 * Talk:Suspicious package found outside South Carolina coffee shop/Comments
 * Talk:Syria fires on Israeli fighter planes/Comments
 * Talk:"Dr Dino" gets 10 years in prison after failure to pay taxes/Comments
 * Talk:7th Heaven television series comes to an end/Comments
 * Talk:'Guantanamo'-style detention facility under construction on Australian Island/Comments
 * Talk:13-year-old shot dead by Brazilian police in mock-up of hijacking situation/Comments
 * Talk:2007 Cricket World Cup - 1st Semi-Final: Sri Lanka vs New Zealand/Comments
 * Talk:2007 Cricket World Cup: Bangladesh vs Australia/Comments
 * Talk:2007 Cricket World Cup: Bangladesh vs New Zealand/Comments
 * Talk:2007 Cricket World Cup: Sri Lanka vs West Indies/Comments
 * Talk:33 dead, 15 injured in Virginia Tech shootings/Comments
 * Talk:380 million year old fossilized trees found in New York, USA/Comments
 * Talk:Abby Cadabby debuts at Sesame Place today as a walkaround character/Comments
 * Talk:Aboriginal Sovereignty Day Declared/Comments
 * Talk:Adult-only TLD rejected by Internet body/Comments
 * Talk:Ahmadinejad to free British navy personnel/Comments
 * Talk:Alarm sounded over US honey bee die-off/Comments
 * Talk:Anaheim Ducks win Stanley Cup/Comments
 * Talk:Ancient code desiphered in the Rosslyn Chapel/Comments
 * Talk:Anti-junta demonstrations grow in Bangkok/Comments
 * Talk:Australia's High Court rules mod-chips are legal/Comments
 * Talk:Basel's railway station shut down after shoot-out/Comments
 * Talk:Bill Gates to receive honorary degree from Harvard University/Comments
 * Talk:Blue Angels navy plane crashes in South Carolina/Comments
 * Talk:Bob Barker retires as US host of "The Price is Right"/Comments
 * Talk:Bomb blasts in Iraq kill nearly 200/Comments
 * Talk:British Prime Minister Tony Blair to resign on June 27/Comments
 * Talk:British sailors detained by Iran "to be tried for espionage"/Comments
 * Talk:Bush defends immigration reform bill/Comments
 * Talk:CBC's new show The One sparked some controversy over simulcast/Comments
 * Talk:California Senator Carole Migden says medication may have caused car crash/Comments
 * Talk:California senator opposed to cell-phones involved in cell-phone related crash/Comments
 * Talk:Canada, U.S. to tighten security between 'cross-border' library/Comments
 * Talk:Canadian Press speculates on special forces role in Iraq/Comments
 * Talk:Canadian university students would prefer MP3 players over car radios/Comments
 * Talk:Children's program on Palestinian TV propagates Islamic world leadership/Comments
 * Talk:Church of England threatens legal action over PS3 game/Comments
 * Talk:Computer professionals celebrate 10th birthday of A.L.I.C.E./Comments
 * Talk:Controversy-plagued Element 118, the heaviest atom yet, finally discovered/Comments
 * Talk:Cutty Sark ablaze, fire treated as 'suspicious'/Comments
 * Talk:DUP and Sinn Féin make gains in Northern Ireland Assembly election/Comments
 * Talk:Dutch TV kidney reality show was a hoax/Comments
 * Talk:Earthquake in China kills three, injures hundreds/Comments
 * Talk:Earthquake strikes Kent, England/Comments
 * Talk:Ebola outbreak in Congo/Comments
 * Talk:Egyptian-Canadian sentenced to 15 years for espionage/Comments
 * Talk:Evangelist Hovind found guilty for tax fraud/Comments
 * Talk:Ex-CIA Director George Tenet's memoir published/Comments
 * Talk:Ex-Thai PM Thaksin's assets are frozen/Comments
 * Talk:Exclusive video interview with New Zealand Opposition leader, John Key/Comments
 * Talk:Extra-solar planet possibly Earth-like found/Comments
 * Talk:Felipe Massa wins 2007 Bahrain Grand Prix/Comments
 * Talk:Fifth-graders have sex in class, charged with obscenity/Comments
 * Talk:Final Harry Potter book's cover art released/Comments
 * Talk:First Guantánamo Bay prisoner sentenced/Comments
 * Talk:Five members of US patrol killed; Three missing in Iraq/Comments
 * Talk:Fixed election dates to become law in Canadian federal elections/Comments
 * Talk:Flickr faces user revolt over German censorship row/Comments
 * Talk:Florida man charged with stealing WiFi/Comments
 * Talk:Football: Roma defeats Inter 3-1 in Milan/Comments
 * Talk:Former "crossover" Canadian MP leaves politics/Comments
 * Talk:Former Arizona Governor says he saw a UFO during the 1997 Phoenix Lights/Comments
 * Talk:French Space Agency CNES releases UFO files/Comments
 * Talk:Fugitive Cuban soldiers attempt to hijack airplane headed for the US/Comments
 * Talk:Gay not an option on MySpace profiles/Comments
 * Talk:German man invents 'cat cam'/Comments
 * Talk:Google buys DoubleClick for $3.1 billion/Comments
 * Talk:Halle Berry denies pregnancy rumours/Comments
 * Talk:Heat protection system on Space Shuttle Atlantis damaged during liftoff/Comments
 * Talk:Iran Foreign Minister: Britain must admit to trespassing before soldiers are released/Comments
 * Talk:Iran typifies Islamic justice, says chief judicial official/Comments
 * Talk:Iran's Supreme Leader wants religious army/Comments
 * Talk:Iran: Detained British troops do not need to go to trial/Comments
 * Talk:Iran: The British Royal Navy sailors confessed to illegal entry into Iran's waters/Comments
 * Talk:Iran: We will also take 'illegal actions' if UN imposes sanctions/Comments
 * Talk:Iranian Supreme Leader seeks worker justice/Comments
 * Talk:Iranian minister eschews un-Islamic dress at Sharm al-Sheikh/Comments
 * Talk:Iraqi school children killed in US air strike/Comments
 * Talk:Israeli company converts radioactive waste into clean energy/Comments
 * Talk:Italian senators lobby for ice cream/Comments
 * Talk:Jimbo Wales to lead development of 'code of conduct' for bloggers/Comments
 * Talk:Judge orders Paris Hilton to return to jail/Comments
 * Talk:Judge rules court hearing in Vaughan, Ontario, votes disputed/Comments
 * Talk:Keith Richards denies reports that he snorted his father's ashes/Comments
 * Talk:Keith Richards reported to have 'snorted' his father's ashes/Comments
 * Talk:Khamenei criticizes "materialistic values" for mistreatment of workers/Comments
 * Talk:Khamenei denounced US presence in Middle East, praises martyrdom operations/Comments
 * Talk:Khamenei denounces US 'bullying', praises martyrdom operations/Comments
 * Talk:Last British volume car manufacturer closes down/Comments
 * Talk:Liberal Party of Canada makes deal with Green Party leader/Comments
 * Talk:Lordi to star in horror movie/Comments
 * Talk:Malaysian court rules Christian woman can't remove Islam from ID/Comments
 * Talk:Man cuts off his own penis in UK restaurant/Comments
 * Talk:Man eats dog to protest animal cruelty/Comments
 * Talk:Marble slab falls off skyscraper in Toronto/Comments
 * Talk:Mass wedding held against racism in Belgium/Comments
 * Talk:McDonald's petitions Oxford English Dictionary to remove the word McJob/Comments
 * Talk:Michael Moore's new film 'Sicko' leaked via P2P/Comments
 * Talk:Michael Nutter wins Philadelphia mayoral primary/Comments
 * Talk:Mick Jagger claims to have seen a UFO/Comments
 * Talk:Microsoft claims 235 patent breaches by open source software/Comments
 * Talk:Microsoft claims open source software breaches its patents/Comments
 * Talk:Microsoft claims some open source software breaches its patents/Comments
 * Talk:Microsoft patent to make ads disable computer/Comments
 * Talk:Missing boy from Glynn County, Georgia found dead/Comments
 * Talk:Monster Pig killed by eleven-year old boy/Comments
 * Talk:Monster pig killed by eleven-year old boy/Comments
 * Talk:Motorsport: A1GP Shanghai, China results/Comments
 * Talk:Mouse makes nest in cash machine, eats money/Comments
 * Talk:Muslims told not to wear veils when they vote in Quebec/Comments
 * Talk:NASCAR's Earnhardt Jr Signs 5-year Contract with Hendrick Motorsports/Comments
 * Talk:NCAA Football: Three Gopher players arrested following rape allegations/Comments
 * Talk:NHL: Sabres keep Islanders at bay to take series 2-1 series lead/Comments
 * Talk:NSW anti-cannabis campaign to target teens/Comments
 * Talk:New York couple keeps Indonesian women as slaves/Comments
 * Talk:New Zealand PM drops in on Microsoft/Comments
 * Talk:New rocky planet discovered in orbit around nearby star/Comments
 * Talk:New video of captured British troops aired; protests at UK embassy in Tehran/Comments
 * Talk:Newfoundland government launches seal hunt website/Comments
 * Talk:Newly discovered extra-solar planet may be Earth-like/Comments
 * Talk:No un-Islamic hairdo, makeup, or ties for Iranian men/Comments
 * Talk:Norton AntiVirus cripples thousands of PCs in China/Comments
 * Talk:Norway purchases Canadian oil sands company/Comments
 * Talk:Object that fell through roof of New Jersey home not a meteorite/Comments
 * Talk:Ontario may adopt new voting system/Comments
 * Talk:Outage leaves tens of thousands of New Zealanders without Internet/Comments
 * Talk:Over 1000 illegal immigrants arrived at Canary Isles this weekend/Comments
 * Talk:Owner wants $10 million for Flight 93 crash site land/Comments
 * Talk:PDPC President Rob Levin has died/Comments
 * Talk:Pakistan: Explosion rocks provincial town/Comments
 * Talk:Panama: Eleven years of a conflict between PPC and ex-workers of Port Authority/Comments
 * Talk:Plants on other planets may not be green/Comments
 * Talk:PlayStation 3 banned in British prisons/Comments
 * Talk:Police arrest roof-climbing graduate of high school in Hopkinton, Massachusetts/Comments
 * Talk:Polish Archbishop resigns after spying revelations/Comments
 * Talk:Previously unknown Indian tribe discovered in Brazil/Comments
 * Talk:Prince Harry prohibited from going to Iraq/Comments
 * Talk:Pupils in detention forced to wear orange overalls/Comments
 * Talk:Rapper Proof (D12) shot and killed outside Detroit nightclub/Comments
 * Talk:Report claims that Pakistani cricket coach Bob Woolmer was poisoned/Comments
 * Talk:Reports: Leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq killed/Comments
 * Talk:Research In Motion comments on BlackBerry outage/Comments
 * Talk:Russia threatens to point nuclear missiles at European cities/Comments
 * Talk:Several US universities ban Wikipedia as primary source/Comments
 * Talk:Shots fired by employee in Texas NASA building/Comments
 * Talk:Smoke from massive warehouse fire in Buffalo, New York USA can be seen 40 miles away/Comments
 * Talk:Space tourist returns to Earth after 14 day trip/Comments
 * Talk:Strong earthquake near Solomon Islands, tsunami reported/Comments
 * Talk:Sydney councils pay investigators to have sex with prostitutes/Comments
 * Talk:Sydney holds voluntary one hour blackout/Comments
 * Talk:Taliban resurgent in Pakistan on enforcement of Sharia law/Comments
 * Talk:Tamil Nadu film 'Sivaji: The Boss' expectations peak/Comments
 * Talk:Tamil Nadu film 'Sivaji: The Boss' may have a delayed release in Kerala/Comments
 * Talk:Televangelist Jerry Falwell dies at age 73/Comments
 * Talk:Ten dead on Minnesota Indian reservation after school shooting/Comments
 * Talk:Tensions between the U.S. and Russia flare before the G8 Summit/Comments
 * Talk:Thai puppeteer Sakorn Yang-keawsot dies at 85/Comments
 * Talk:Thailand bans YouTube over videos insulting king/Comments
 * Talk:The Governator marks three day visit to Canada/Comments
 * Talk:Top ranking UK chat site suspected by users of having paedophiles/Comments
 * Talk:Turkey's Constitutional Court invalidates first round in presidential elections/Comments
 * Talk:U.S. anti-war mom calls it quits/Comments
 * Talk:UK freezes business arrangements with Iran; detained sailors and marines shown on TV/Comments
 * Talk:UK naval crew describe their capture and detention by Iran/Comments
 * Talk:UK prepared to go 'into different phase' if sailors and marines not released by Iran within days/Comments
 * Talk:UK sailors captured at gunpoint by Iranians/Comments
 * Talk:US President George W. Bush caught driving without a seatbelt/Comments
 * Talk:US State Department accuses Iran of being top state sponsor of terrorism/Comments
 * Talk:US senator Joseph Lieberman suggests attacking Iran base/Comments
 * Talk:US tuberculosis patient moved to Denver hospital/Comments
 * Talk:US: Melamine from contaminated pet food enters human food chain/Comments
 * Talk:Video released with demands for exchange of BBC correspondent/Comments
 * Talk:Virginia Tech shooter identified, witness reports emerge/Comments
 * Talk:Virginia dangerous dog law bill ready for Assembly debate/Comments
 * Talk:Virginia law bans mobile phone use by teen drivers/Comments
 * Talk:Wal-Mart accused of workers rights violations/Comments
 * Talk:White House discussing troop withdrawals of up to 50% in Iraq/Comments
 * Talk:Wikinews Shorts: April 17, 2007/Comments
 * Talk:Woman charged with offering her child for sex/Comments
 * Talk:Women's groups promote "Equal Pay Day" in Belgium/Comments
 * Talk:Tammy Faye Messner, 65, dies after long battle with cancer/Comments
 * Talk:Teacher sexual misconduct rampant in American schools, says AP/Comments
 * Talk:Telephone network access on iPhone unlocked by teen/Comments
 * Talk:The Chaser breaches APEC security/Comments
 * Talk:The Raveonettes on love, death, desire and war/Comments
 * Talk:The final Harry Potter book goes on sale/Comments
 * Talk:Thief force-fed fifty bananas to retrieve necklace/Comments
 * Talk:Third US soldier charged in investigation into murder of Iraqi civilians/Comments
 * Talk:Thousands flee renewed violence in Congo/Comments
 * Talk:Thousands more evacuated in California, USA/Comments
 * Talk:Threats of school shootings at the University of Winnipeg/Comments
 * Talk:Three Walmart superstores open in Canada/Comments
 * Talk:Three killed in Utah coal mine rescue/Comments
 * Talk:Toads cause traffic jam on British Columbia highway/Comments
 * Talk:Torrent tracker Demonoid.com down, possibly shut by Canadian Recording Industry Association/Comments
 * Talk:Transcript of bin Laden message released by ABC/Comments
 * Talk:Trust formed to protect New Zealand's free speech/Comments
 * Talk:Turkey launches airstrikes against Kurdish rebels/Comments
 * Talk:Turkey outraged over U.S. Armenian genocide resolution/Comments
 * Talk:Turkish Parliament approves military action in Iraq/Comments
 * Talk:Two US soldiers killed, one wounded in Bahrain/Comments
 * Talk:Two new cases of West Nile Virus reported in Indiana/Comments
 * Talk:Two shot and killed in UK bank robbery/Comments
 * Talk:Two students shot at Delaware State University/Comments
 * Talk:U.S. Airways makes bid on Delta/Comments
 * Talk:U.S. Criticized for lack of supervision of biohazards in labs/Comments
 * Talk:U.S. General David Petraeus accuses Iran of fueling war in Iraq/Comments
 * Talk:U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter introduces bill to cut federal funding for Columbia University/Comments
 * Talk:U.S. Sen. Larry Craig resigns over sex scandal/Comments
 * Talk:U.S. Senator Larry Craig to resign/Comments
 * Talk:U.S. Senators call for Idaho Senator Larry Craig to resign/Comments
 * Talk:U.S. minimum wage gets first federal boost in a decade/Comments
 * Talk:UK PM Brown meets with US President Bush at Camp David/Comments
 * Talk:UK bank gets emergency support/Comments
 * Talk:UK jets shadow Russian bombers/Comments
 * Talk:UN Report: Earth ecosystem in peril/Comments
 * Talk:UN Security Council extends Afghan force mandate/Comments
 * Talk:UN aid convoys face increasing attacks in Darfur/Comments
 * Talk:UN calls for Guantanamo shutdown/Comments
 * Talk:UN report: climate change and food shortage major problems for Earth's future/Comments
 * Talk:US First Lady undergoes neck surgery/Comments
 * Talk:US President George Bush to reduce amount of troops in Iraq/Comments
 * Talk:US Senate says no to pullout of US troops from Iraq/Comments
 * Talk:US Senate votes no to expanding detainee rights/Comments
 * Talk:US congressman causes controversy by comparing Bush to Hitler/Comments
 * Talk:US scientist says he created first 'artificial life form'/Comments
 * Talk:US stock markets tumble on 'Black Monday' anniversary/Comments
 * Talk:Umbrella unfurling for demanding suffrage in Hong Kong/Comments
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Oral Roberts University attorneys seek gag order

October 27, 2007

Attorneys for Oral Roberts University requested a on court filings related to alleged illegal political and financial wrongdoing as well as wrongful firings. According to a court filing, ORU believes "their legal motion that publicity allegedly manipulated by the professors and their attorneys could lower the possibility of a fair trial. They want the professors and their attorneys barred from talking about the case outside of court." Specifically, "The motion refers to a report allegedly compiled by Roberts' sister-in-law, Stephanie Cantees, that Roberts has said consists of false rumors."

Also on Friday, the ORU Regents hired the Washington, D.C. law firm of to investigate ORU expenses and the Arlington, Texas accounting firm  will support the investigation.

The controversy has forced ORU president to  step down as his father  returns to the school. ORU Board of Regents Chairman said the change was temporary and did not imply guilt.


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Talk:Wikimedia Conference Netherlands 2007 held on wikis and education

Original Reporting notes
I took the train up to Amsterdam on Friday night, was early arriving (and the signs on the way to where it was being held didn't have a big enough WMF logo on them).

I attended the opening, Cormac Lawler's session "Wikiversity - learning the "wiki way", "The Global Educators' Open Course given by Eliane Metni from Lebanon and then dug myself a grave by being totally unprepared to speak about Wikinews (asked 2 days ago). In the afternoon lightning talks I attended the speakers whose names I got were Bryan Tong Minh on Commons - with the comment that Commons now has more mainspace media files than Wikipedia has articles. 5,000 new files/day, approx 1,000 copyvio. Esther Hoorn spoke about JurisPedia, highlighting that law is ever changing and a wiki model is useful. Jasper de Grood (sp?) spoke about his work in Zambia substituting PCs for a library and using open source software to make up for a lack of books. Andre Engels had a more blue-sky topic, a "I have a dream" to get as many archives of records which may be useful for historical research scanned, put online, and using the wiki model transcribed from handwriting into machine-readable and searchable text. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:35, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The Javanese wiki was discussed, a project in a language with 80,000 speakers yet only 5 active wiki contributors. Comments from the floor were that this was below the critical threshold to make a wiki self-sustaining. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

To-do
As the only Wikinewsie at the conference I couldn't cover everything, and "Mijn Nederlands is niet zo goed". The following are a list of points I need. Any help other participants can give would be much appreciated. Add links if people have put presentations online (this was mentioned at one point), cover the nl. sessions you attended. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:25, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Who were the speakers and what were their topics in the morning lightning talks?
 * I understand one speaker was ill, what was the dropped/replaced speech/speaker?
 * I didn't catch the name of the guy speaking about the Javanese Wikipedia.
 * What was the actual attendance figure? I would have guessed at somewhere between 50-70.
 * I was not present for any of the material after the 2nd lightning talks session, I can't write anything on that.
 * PICTURES!!!!!
 * And when you've done that, someone please translate a version of this over to the nl.wikinews.org site. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Good OR
This looks like a good OR article but I think it's lacking an ending, how about adding a final paragraph to summarise the event. How well did it go, how many people attended, that kind of thing. Adambro 19:22, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately I had to leave early to catch a train. The last high speed train from Amsterdam to Brussels is just after 4pm. It's that or the "stoptrein" which ... well ... stops. Lots.
 * Fortunately some of the other attendees have filled out the bits I missed, thanks folks! --Brian McNeil / talk 09:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Just great
The only time I leave my country there's a Wikimedia conference next door... Will do the translation part, sure. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:29, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Research at Wikiversity
From the current version of the article: "like Wikinews there is scope for original research, but as was admitted this is not yet clearly defined". It might be worth linking to the Wikiversity:Research guidelines. --JWSchmidt 20:56, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


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User talk:Scottyl

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Well thanks for the links Brian. Scottyl 22:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

NPOV
Scott, please keep in mind that articles need to conform to the Neutral Point of View Policy. I've retained some elements of your changes, but reverted most as unsourced opinion. Please keep in mind that if this article is to survive it will likely need to conform meticulously to Wikinews policy since Wikinews generally are leery of articles about Wikipedia dustups. JoshuaZ 00:20, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Everything I've written here has been neutral and factual. I'll take a look at what you reverted as unsourced opinion and add sources if necessary. Scottyl 00:28, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

 * I should probably clarify that part of NPOV is also not putting in information that is not terribly relevant that comes across as smearing. The section on Dragonfiend certainly came across that way. JoshuaZ 00:30, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

How could Dragonfiend not be terribly relevant or unsourced? She's the leader of the anti-webcomics jihad and everything I added about her was taken directly off here Wikipedia profile. Scottyl 00:36, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

 * The key word is neutral. Whether or not your information is accurate, Dragonfiend's personal interests have no bearing on the incorrectness or correctness of her moderation, and can only be construed as smearing. --Hurkyl 01:49, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Your neutral point of view policy states that one should write articles without bias, representing all views fairly. This requires that we present both sides of this issue, Wikipedia's and the WebComic community's which is why I provided sourced quotes from both Wikipedia moderators and WebComic artists showing their respective attitudes. And how can you possibly say quoting someone accuarately is smearing them? It's time you guys stopped deleting and censoring the truth when you don't like it. Scottyl 01:56, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

 * It fails to be neutral because Dragonfiend's personal interests have no bearing on the incorrectness or correctness of her moderation. I can see no possible purpose other than slander for posting that quote from her user talk page. (Furthermore, it fails to be factual because the quote was made only a few hours ago, and not by her. You have been tricked by a vandal!)

 * You appear to be passionate about this issue. Do you want to be directly responsible for getting it quashed, due to violations of NPOV? Notice that the listing of this for deletion was a direct response to your edits. --Hurkyl 02:26, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

That's so typical. Providing quotes and sources makes me a vandal with no purpose other than slander and you're going to blame me for your deleting an article because you can't stand the truth it contains? What Dragonfiend writes on her profile makes it clear exactly what kind of a moderator she is, just as your making very clear what kind you are. Scottyl 02:40, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

 * (after 2 edit conflicts) Um, Hurky's comment was that the comment on Dragonfiend's userpage was put there by a vandal, not by Dragonfiend. This doesn't make you a vandal. Also, I can't emphasize enough that your combative attitude isn't going to help. I'm trying to get this article kept, but your attitude really isn't helping. People are going to call for deletion simply in reaction. In general, few things ensure an article's deletion more than proponents crying "censorship!" Also, as a piece of advice, Wikinews and Wikipedia are distinct projects and cultures. Many people who edit here do not edit on Wikipedia and vice-versa. So saying things like "Its bad enough you're deleting webcomics, you don't need to delete articles about deleting webcomics too. That looks like censorship to me" is really not going to help get the article kept. Now, as to Balder's comments which you added to the article, random flames aren't very helpful. A good rule of thumb for this sort of thing is if you woudn't expect to see it in a major newspaper you probably shouldn't put it there. I'm going to again attempt to tone things down. Finally, I strongly recommend that you only make comments on the talk page. You aren't familiar with this community or its processes, and frankly you are causing more harm than help in regard to keeping this article. `JoshuaZ 03:12, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, right. Dragonfiend's comments on her profile were put there by a "vandal"? She's one of the main wikipedia moderators who deletes webcomics two seconds after they are created, and she's the first to start crying if someone says boo to her, and now when someone points out the type of crazy stuff she writes on her profile you're going to tell me someone else wrote it and she and all her moderator friends have left it there all day? I find that impossible to believe. Especially when I can't even quote her profile without some moderator deleting my edits two seconds later. And, right, my pointing out your censorship after you guys have put the big "requested for deletion" banner at the top of that article is the reason why you put the big "requested for deletion" banner at the top? I think you've got your cause and effect messed up. And Wikinews and Wikipedia are distinct projects and cultures? That explains why your profile page says "This user can be most commonly found at the English Wikipedia JoshuaZ where I am an admin." No, hold on, I think I get it now, you're not really a Wikipedia admin, because Dragonfiend's profile was written by a vandal, and if you were a Wikipedia admin you wouldn't let a vandal write her profile, so the only explanation is that a vandal wrote both of your profiles? Yeah, right, that's really believable here in Wiki land. And Rob Balder's statements are just "random flames"? No, they're not, he represents to point of view of the WebComics community. Deleting the point of view of the WebComics community in a Wiki article about the point of view of the webcomics community towards deleting WebComics? I suppose that's to be expected from you Wiki guys. Scottyl 03:42, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Dragonfiend's userpage was in fact vandalized, as you can see from this dif. Notice that the edits to the user page were made by an anonymous editor. I will respond to your other comments when I have time. JoshuaZ 05:19, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Now responding to your other comments- I'm not much of a Wikinewsian but I'm the exception in this matter rather than the rule. Many of the people who are involved with this such as Brianmc are much more connected with Wikinews than Wikipedia. So yes, they are separate even though there is some overlap- this isn't that different from having some overlap between say the webcomics community and Wikipedia editors). And no, Balder does not speak for the webcomics community as whole, he isn't elected, no source says that he speaks for everyone as a whole. Ask yourself, would CNN include these sorts of flames in an article? If not, why would you expect Wikinews to do so? The article as was written makes it clear that many elements of the webcomics community are not happy including Balder. The exact insults and flames he used are not relevant and not terribly important, and frankly putting them in if anything makes him look worse not better. JoshuaZ 15:19, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

 * What is the relevance? You did not say in the article, nor did you say here. If it's not relevant, it has no place in this article. Furthermore, your edit is factually incorrect -- the description is not her own. So again, it has no place in this article. --Hurkyl 02:55, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Of course she's relevant. Eric Burns says she's relevant. Rob Balder says she's relevant. And if you don't know, Eric Burns edited Modern Tales and Rob Balder was in Attitude 3. And if you don't understand that these guys know this topic better than you, then you really shouldn't be editing this article. Scottyl 03:11, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

 * I never said she wasn't relevant! Given what I know, I agree that Dragonfiend should be mentioned as one of the prominent figures on the deletionist side. But there is no place for her personal interests unless they are directly related to the moderation of webcomics articles! And it might be reasonable to include more quotes from other webcomic authors -- but it is much less reasonable if those quotes come from informal communication.

 * I've heard a lot of problems with wikipedia, and so this is an issue I would like to see taken seriously. It will not get taken seriously if it contains childish insults, nor quotes of webcomic authors bursting with anger. Remember that the point of this article is not to write something for those who are convinced there's a problem (nor for those who are convinced there isn't a problem) -- the point of this article is to inform those people who haven't heard about this before. --Hurkyl 03:52, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

And now your calling Eric Burns and Rob Balder childish. No surprise there. But don't be surprised if I go Dragonfiend and delete your next insult you post here. Scottyl 04:30, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Also a note about edit warring.
Also, you may wish to be aware that edit warring, in the sense of repeated reversions of an article is frowned upon and can get one blocked. See the three revert rule for more details. JoshuaZ 03:30, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Thank you! --Hurkyl 03:33, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

And I suppose that rule doesn't apply to all the times you guys have repeatedly deleted the WebComics community point of view from the article. Welcome to Wikimedia! Scottyl 03:46, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, it would apply if any one of us had in fact reverted too many times. None has not, nor have you. But edit warring is much more likely to lead to a block if it is accompanied by incivility. Thus, consider this a friendly warning. JoshuaZ 05:19, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

And one more thing - signing
On talk pages please remember to sign your talk page comments. You can do so with four tildes, ~. JoshuaZ 05:23, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

O RLY? Gee thanks I had no idea. Thats extremely useful information. Its not like Brian McNeil wrote the same thing at the top of this page already or anything. Or like I haven't signed every single one of my comments above with four tildes. Or is this something that on Wiki we're supposed to tell people that are already signing their comments with four tildes? You guys sure have some crazy customs here. Scottyl 05:36, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Actually, you hadn't signed every comment. See for example . JoshuaZ 15:11, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

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Comments:Dalai Lama to meet with Canada's PM on Monday

About China
I'm wondering whether China will once again "threaten" if the meeting takes place... Anyway, as here we say "perro que ladra no muerde" (meaning that China talks too much, though does little or nothing up to now). Maybe the Chinese will surprise everyone and stay cool? Hmmm - Jurock (reply) 22:15, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I am glad I am not a Chinese civilian. Contralya 03:54, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


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Comments:New bill will ban Muslims from wearing veils at polls; Canada

Yea I've been seeing this on the CBC, but they said it would require them to show their faces for a minute to a female elections worker. I've worked provincial elections in Ontario before and yea, all the Muslim women I've seen remove their veils when they vote.

Spiderman
I said it before, I'll say it again, You should be able to vote however you feel like it if you have proper ID. If I want to goto the polls as spiderman (because I'm just that cool), I should be able to. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:04, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


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Comments:Oral Roberts University president accused of illegal political donations and financial misappropriation

I do not know enough to comment on the report itself, however I do find that reading it is a bit akward, with many key pronouns, prepositions, and conjunctions left out. Words like 'the,' 'of,' 'for,' 'to,' 'in,' 'so,' and in some cases even 'his,' and 'her,' would make things much more readable.

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Wikinews:Briefs/October 27, 2007

Plotter of USS Cole attack freed from prison
Jamal al-Bedawi, one of the mastermind plotters of the USS Cole bombing in 2000 that killed 17 American NAVY personnel and injured 39 others in Yemen, has been freed from a prison in Sanaá, the capital of Yemen after he "pleaded allegiance" to the president of the country, and will be kept under house arrest with extreme security.

Al-Bedawi, who was serving a death sentence for his role in the attack, escaped from a Yemeni prison in February of 2006 along with another plotter of the attack, Fawaz al-Rabeiee, who has yet to be captured. Al-Bedawi turned himself in to authorities just over two weeks ago.

United States officials have described the move as "disappointing."

Elderly couple found slain in scrapyard in Staffordshire, England
Bodies of an elderly couple have been found in Barlows scrapyard in Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, United Kingdom. BBC reports the bodies were found on Friday night.

A 29-year-old man was the only person at the scrapyard when police and ambulance crews arrived and has now been arrested as a suspect.

The scene has been cornered off by police.

Unexpected comet 'outburst' could be visible for weeks
If you've noticed a fuzzy yellowish object at night in the northeast sky, immediately to the left of the constellation Perseus, that's because it is the Comet Holmes which has suddenly gotten brighter in what scientists say is "absolutely unprecedented" in comet research.

Earlier reports were that the object might have been a star that went super nova, or that a new star might have formed, but because the comet does not have a tail, the earlier reports were later dismissed.

The comet took just 24 hours to get more than 400,000 times brighter than it usually is, and is currently over one million times brighter, but Brian Marsden, director of the Minor Planet Center, says the comet's brightness could dim in days or even weeks.

Dalai Lama to meet with Canada's PM on Monday
Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper will be meeting with the Dalai Lama on Monday at his office in Ottawa at 2 p.m.

The Dalai Lama is scheduled to give a speech on Sunday in downtown Ottawa. He is also planned to meet various Canadian officials and hold a news conference later in the week.

This is the second time the Dalai Lama will meet with a Canadian Prime Minister.

New bill will ban Muslims from wearing veils at polls; Canada
A new bill will propose a law to amend the Canada Elections Act to ban Muslims from wearing veils (or niqab's) while at polls.

According to a Canadian government press release it will allow "someone to be recognized, who is attempting to commit an offense at the polls such as trying to vote twice)," and it will "restore public confidence in the electoral process."

Complaints arose from the Quebec elections that some people reportedly concealed their faces during voting.

Sarah Elgazzar, a spokeswoman for the Canada Council on American-Islamic Relations in September stated that the small minority of women targeted by the bill already remove their veils for identification.

This has been an Audio Wikinews Brief and is freely available for copy under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 license at http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/. Catch the latest breaking news at Wikinews at en.wikinews.org.

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Comments:Tony Blair speaks in Canada

I hear that a major part of Canadian nationalism is the fact that they are not part of the USA, lol. Contralya 00:17, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

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Hello Mr. Shankbone Excelent piece on Talese. I'll like to ask you permition to translate into Spanish and publish both versions in a small newspaper in NY and NJ called Book Press? Cordially Jacqueline Donado
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Gay Talese
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Gay Talese
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Welcome
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Comments:Unexpected comet 'outburst' could be visible for weeks

I was wondering how long ago did the explosion/outburst atually take place, given, how many light years the comit is away from Earth? I have been trying to find the answer to this question online without any luck. Debbie

Precisely, what is the cause of the Outbust? Atmosphere, the coma, what?76.236.145.14 18:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Debbie, the comet is in orbit around OUR sun Sol, not in the light-year range at all. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Comet_Holmes_orbit_2007.gif has a fairly good depiction of Holmes's orbit. I'm not sure how far Holmes is exactly, but it IS inside the orbit of Jupiter (816,520,751 km at it's furthest from the sun) That translates into about 45 light-minutes. Hope that helps. 205.132.76.4 07:37, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Comet Holmes 2007 outburst is monitored and light curve is provided in details in the following reference,

http://arxiv.org/abs/0908.1450

"Continuous Monitoring of Comet Holmes from Before the 2007 Outburst" Authors: E. E. El-Houssieny, R. J. Nemiroff, T. E. Pickering


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It makes sense to me. Keeps people voting one apiece. Contralya 05:39, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


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Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party chooses new leader

October 28, 2007

The Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party has elected a new party leader during its 25th Congress over the weekend. Current leader, Prime Minister Miyeegombiin Enkhbold, was defeated by Sanj Bayar in a 377-289 vote. Bayar, the former secretary general of the MPRP, is expected to succeed Enkhbold as Prime Minister following a decision to unify the positions of the party chair and Prime Minister.


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Suspect "Rembrandt" sold for £2.2 million in English auction house

October 28, 2007

On Friday afternoon in Moore Allen & Innocent's Cirencester, England auction house a suspect "Rembrandt" painting was sold for £2.2 million, after being estimated by many experts at just £1,000 to £1,500. This is the most expensive Rembrandt to ever be sold in a provincial auction house in all England's auction history.

Bidding started at £4,500 and quickly galloped upwards, by the time it had reached £1 million bidding was rising in £100,000's. However by the £1.8 million mark had slowed down to increasing by £50,000 a time, by this point the pace had slowed remarkably, all 8 phone bidders had stopped and it was left between two people still in the room.

When the hammer went down a round of applause rose up, staff looked stunned to silence and the room quickly emptied with people calling friends to tell of the news. Considering the original owner of the piece had kept it in their family house for generations thinking it nothing but a copy by one of Rembrandt's pupils it was an amazing result. The buyer of the piece has been left anonymous even to the auctions owners however the 9.5 by 6.5 inch painting labeled "The Young Rembrandt as Democrates the Laughing Philosopher" is sure to now be tested for authenticity. If it is a true Rembrandt then the buyer will have a relative bargain as it will likely be worth in the region of £8-10 million.


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Comments:New bill will ban Muslims from wearing veils at polls in Canada

The title of this article is misleading. If Wikinews is to be anything like Wikipedia, they should just write biased articles like this.

The article is written as if the proposed law is specifically targeti8ng muslum women, but in fact while muslum women may be the most effected by this, the law is written to effect anyone voting. It's not just that you're not allowed to cover your face with a vail, you can't do it with a ski mask or hockey mask or stretched sock or anything. The issue is the face being covered up, not weather you're a muslum woman or not.

I think this news article should be changed to reflect it. I'd do it myself, but I wanted to leave room for discussion first.

-Christopher (Fipher) D. Osborn fipher.blogspot.com

It is unfortunate our government is scooping to such a low level. We don't need such a law to implement credibilility of our election process. What will be next. What happened to being reasonable. Muslim women should show their faces as long as women are identifying them. Government should provide women officers or volunteers at the polling station to facilitate this process.

Please stop humiliating Muslims and be reasonable.

Farrukh Alam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.83.96.9 (talk) 23:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Covered Faces
I believe that allowing one to cover his/ her face while voting in any election is a distrustful practice. I have covered my face for the past two elections just to prove a point. I had heavy opposition from the people in charge, but was intent on seeing this through. If it is okay for a muslim to cover her face then it should be alright for a man to do so also. After I had voted ,I told the officers there that this was a dangerous practice which would allow for a person to vote as many times as they pleased. It is wrong and should be stopped. If you went to a bank to close out your account would they allow a covered face NO, if you were boarding an aircraft would they allow it NO, then why should it be allowed when the future of this country could be in jeopardy?

I always thought Elections Canada was responsible to the people of Canada???? Are they not!

Stop this insane action now.

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Interview with Reggie Bibbs on his life with neurofibromatosis

December 14, 2007

Infobox: What is neurofibromatosis?
Neurofibromatosis (NF) is a genetic condition causing benign tumors (neurofibromas) to grow along certain types of nerves and, in addition, it can affect the development of bones or skin. There are several variants of the disease but type 1 and type 2 NF account for the vast majority of cases.

The disease manifestations can vary from very mild to severe. Major symptoms include growths on and under the skin; skin pigmentations called café au lait spots in type 1; acoustic nerve tumors and consequent hearing loss in type 2. Growths can affect nearly all parts of the body, and pressure on nearby structures can cause a wide variety of complications. There is a small risk that the tumors transform into malignant cancerous lesions.

NF is one of the most common single-gene human diseases; around 1 in 2,500-4,000 live births are affected by NF-1, whereas NF-2 occurs in about 1 in 50,000-120,000. Both type 1 and 2 are autosomal dominant conditions, meaning that only one copy of the mutated gene need be inherited to pass the disorder. A child of a parent with neurofibromatosis and an unaffected parent will have a 50% chance of inheriting the disorder. The gene responsible for NF-1 and possibly NF-2 is thought to function as a tumor suppressor gene.

In most cases of neurofibromatosis 1, patients can live normal and productive lives. In about 25-40% of patients there is an associated learning disability with or without ADHD. In some cases of neurofibromatosis 2, the damage to nearby vital structures, such as the cranial nerves and the brainstem, can be life-threatening. When tumors are causing pain or disfiguration, surgery is thus far the only proven beneficial treatment option. Reggie Bibbs is a 43-year-old-man living in Houston, Texas. Mr Bibbs was born with a genetic disease called neurofibromatosis (NF), which causes him to develop tumors on his body (see infobox on the right). NF can be a subtle disease, but in Bibbs' case it has left him with a disfigured face and deformed leg. But he is happy with the way he looks, and doesn't want to change his appearance to please other people. He has launched a successful campaign entitled "Just Ask", and that's just what Wikinews did in a video-interview.

The interview was prepared by Wikinews reporter Michaël Laurent with the help of Bertalan Meskó (who has a popular genetics and web 2.0 blog). Their questions were sent to a close friend of Mr. Bibbs, Lou Congelio, who kindly conducted the interview.

=The interview=

On neurofibromatosis

 * Reggie Bibbs: My name is Reggie Bibbs, I am 43 years old and I live in Houston, Texas.

Wikinews: Can you explain to our readers in simple terms what exactly is neurofibromatosis?

 * RB: Neurofibromatosis is a genetic disorder that causes tumors to grow throughout the body and the nervous system. The tumors grow anywhere on the body. NF-2 is when the tumors grow on the inside and on the hearing nerves and the eyes.

WN: How are you affected?

 * RB: I have NF-1 and the tumors are outward, they call this disfigurement and it has affected my legs and the left side of my face.

 * (interviewer directs the camera)

WN: How did you find out you had NF?

 * RB: I was eight months old, and that's when we found out about neurofibromatosis. At that time they were calling it "von Recklinghausen disease". My mom took me to the Shriners Hospital, they examined me and that's when they told her, I had von Recklinghausen disease or neurofibromatosis. They found a small tumor on my heel and a small tumor on my eye and one in my mouth, on the roof of my mouth.

WN: Was it painful?

 * RB: At that time I remember my mom telling me, that the tumor on my leg was really painful, because she would cry when she would try to put shoes on my feet.

'''WN: How did your mom react to finding out you had neurofibromatosis? Did she know anything about it?'''

 * RB: My mom didn't know anything about it until I was diagnosed. And they saw my mom's arm and they said, you know, this right here is a tumor and this is where it came from. And they said it is the same type of tumor. She was very hurt, you know, she asked the doctors if it was something she did. Because she thought that is was something she did during the pregnancy that caused this disfigurement.

WN: What causes NF?

 * RB: NF is caused by a defective gene. And this gene is defective and it is telling the body to grow tumors.

Growing up
WN: What was it like growing up, as a child in elementary school?

 * RB: Growing up and going to elementary and being a child was really difficult, because you knew that you looked different from all of the other kids. And they all were wearing the right shoes and I had to wear different shoes. And I just looked different from anyone I had ever seen.

WN: Was your face as disfigured as it is now?
 * RB: Well, yes, my eye was really a lot different growing up, but my lip and the left side of my cheek ... that was, you know, really noticeable. And it was really difficult going to school because there were a lot of kids that used to make fun. And there were some that were nice.

'''WN: You told me one time about a teacher in school who did something. Tell me about that.'''
 * RB: This was in junior-high and I was in special-ed and we would ride the smaller buses. So one day my bus was late and we were there, a group of kids, we were waiting for the bus. By this time some of the teachers were leaving. And there was one particular teacher that was leaving, and as he passed by he told me, "Wow, where did you get that thing from?" And I was shocked. He said, "Oh, never mind, I thought you were wearing a mask." It really hurt me because it was embarrassing and I had some friends with me — and it was a teacher. And I just felt really let down and betrayed because a teacher said this. And after he realized his mistake he never apologized, and that really hurt me.

WN: Have you encountered other incidents like this?

 * RB: There were a few. One that really springs to mind, was when I was going to an electronics store. My mom and I were walking to the door. We saw one of the managers locked the door and wave us away. I knew they weren't closed, it was in the middle of the afternoon on a Saturday, and there were people walking around, shopping. And he just locked the door and waved me away.

WN: What about others in your family with NF?
 * RB: Well, I'm the youngest of six, I have two sisters that have NF and they have milder cases. They have a few tumors on their body but none that are really disfiguring. And also, I had a brother, one other brother, that had neurofibromatosis. He had some of the tumors. He also developed a neurosarcoma, he was about 46-years old and one of his tumors turned to cancer. That was really difficult for all of us because it was unexpected. My mom, she has it and she also has a few of the small tumors. Other than that, there is no one else in the family that have it.

A head to toe body tour
WN: If we had a tour of your body, show me from the head to your arms to your leg, how NF has affected you.
 * RB: NF has affected me by some of the tumors on my arms, and, I have a few on my back...

WN: Can you show me your arm?
 * RB: My arms? Like here, some of the tumors right here...

'''WN: Okay, you point to, like, the one on your elbow. Does that hurt?'''
 * RB: No this is very soft, and it doesn't hurt. And there's one here, and one here, and there's a few here...

WN: So none of those hurt?
 * RB: None of these hurt.

WN: Do any of them hurt, on your face or your leg?
 * RB: None of the ones on my face hurt. They're just like extra growths, you know, fatty tissue. Above my left eye there's a lot of itching on the inside, it tingles on the inside above my eye.

WN: Where have you had surgeries?
 * RB: I had surgery on my nose, on my lip and on my cheek, and eye.

'''WN: Can you turn your head to the right? Your left ear seems to be lower. How come?'''
 * RB: Right, it's the fatty tissue and everything, it just hangs, it pulls everything down. I have a small tumor on the optic nerve of my left eye, and it's growing, and it's pushing the eye outwards, and it's out of the eye socket, and that's what makes the eye look lower.

WN: Do you have any vision in the left eye?
 * RB: I have very little vision in the left eye.

WN: Can you make out movement?
 * RB: Well, the only way I can really see out of it is when I cover the right eye. Then I can see out of it, I can't see really well, but I can count fingers from maybe about 3 feet.

WN: Tell me about your leg.
 * RB: My leg is... from the knee down, they are tumors and a lot of fatty tissue, and it swells. It's difficult to walk. I have to wear a special sock to hold it together to keep it from expanding. It's a compression sock and it's helped with circulation.

WN: It looks very painful, your leg looks like it's an S.
 * RB: That's because on the left side right here it's just a lot of fatty tissue. The bone is not curved it's just, this right here is just a lot of extra tissue. If I take the sock off it won't look like an S. All the fatty tissue would just drop. So, that's how that works.

WN: Okay, tell me about your shoe.
 * RB: The shoes are specially made, they're custom made. A cast is made and they make the shoes from the mold. Because of the leg, I have to have special support.

'''WN: Can you show me the side of your foot... and the other side?'''
 * RB: The shoes they help support the ankle from bending to one side. The right foot is not affected at all, only the left side.

'''WN: It looks like mainly the left side of your body is affected by NF.
 * RB: Yes, mainly the left side.

WN: Any reason for that?
 * RB: No, there's no reason. We just never know how NF is gonna affect anyone. Everything on the left side accept the arm. The arm has a lot of strength and is not disfigured in any way.

The daily life of Reggie Bibbs
WN: What's a regular day in your life like?
 * RB: A regular day for me starts off with waking up in the morning and taking care of my leg. There are a few areas that really need treatment, special dressings for it, and after I, you know, wash and dress that area and then I go through the difficult task of putting the sock on. So I have to really work hard with this sock with a net on and after that everything else goes on. And I have to work on my eyes, I have to wash it when I wash and put my eye ointment in. And then after that it's basically doing what everyone else does with the exception of... I do a lot for my family so I'm doing a lot for them which I don't mind. I'm happy to help. That's basically how it starts. And I usually go to the grocery stores and things like that in my area, where people know me. They are nice there.

WN: Is it hard for you going outside your area?
 * RB: It's really hard for me to go to a store that's not in my area. It's like there's a boundary to where I stay inside of that boundary. There's only certain stores in the area that I would go to and if I'm on the other side of town if I need something I won't go to a store where people are not used to seeing me. I just don't want to create problems, I don't want to shock anyone or hurt anyone or I don't want to be hurt. So I just don't feel comfortable into going into stores that I'm not accustomed to be going to.

WN: What kind of bad experiences have you had?
 * RB: Well, there are some bad experiences where I walk up to a door, some people will lock the door and won't let me in. Some people will just turn and go the other way or cover their face or just shy away from me.

WN: How does that make you feel?
 * RB: It makes me feel angry because it makes me feel like I know they know better but they're doing it to be mean.

Raising awareness and his campaign
WN: What are you doing personally to raise awareness about NF?
 * RB: I am trying to get better at going to a lot of the activities that we have in our town. The Renaissance festival, the Rolly Derby. I'm trying to make myself visible for people to get a chance to see me and to see that I like the same things that they like and once you get over the outward appearances then I'm a pretty good person to know.

'''WN: I heard you went to your first baseball game this year. Why didn't you go to a baseball game before?'''
 * RB: The reason why I've never gone to a baseball game before this year I was just afraid of going by myself and afraid of what people would say. And so I went to my first game with my friend and I really was surprised. I've learned a lot that I have to give people a chance. And when I went people were really really nice to me. And I was just really impressed. And it made me want to do more because people were very accepting to me and same at other places and they would actually come up to me and make the first move and shake my hand and just give me words of encouragement. And since that first game it makes me want to go and do more. With each place I go I find acceptance.

WN: What would you say to somebody who sees you, who doesn't know you, doesn't know about neurofibromatosis, what would you tell them to do?
 * RB: I would tell them, for anyone that have never seen me, or have never heard of NF, if they would just ask, and try to give it a chance. Just ask, you know, 'what is this', just give it a chance. It may be NF for someone and it may not, but try to put yourself in that person's shoes, try to think about how would you feel. The person may not have NF, they may have some other disorder, but we all need acceptance, we all need a chance.

'''WN: You talked about telling these people (coughs) to just ask. You have a T-shirt on, tell me about the T-shirt.'''
 * RB: The T-shirts came about for that reason. I would see a lot of people that would look at me, and some would look at me like they admire me, some would look like 'I wonder if I should ask', and they don't know. They don't know it's ok with me to ask, and I said 'I would like to let people know, I don't mind questions', and that's why I came up with the 'Just Ask' campaign.

WN: Tell me about your T-shirt, what's on the front?
 * RB: The front is my image, and the back is 'Just Ask', with my website.

WN: Could you stand up and show me?
 * RB: Sure. On the front is my image, and on the back is the word 'Just Ask' with my website [zooming in, reggiebibbs.com]. I have a blog where we meet and talk with others that have NF, or just others that just want to know about it, they may have family members, just let them know what were doing with the Just Ask campaign, let them know what I'm doing at the events, and we share stories, and photos, and everything like that.

WN: How important is that blog to people with NF?
 * RB: That blog is very important to a lot of people, because it's a way of connecting with others that have NF. It's a way of connecting with moms and dads that need support from other parents and from others that just can say words of encouragement.

WN: Do you think there's other people like you who don't want to go out in the public, and this is their link to people?
 * RB: I really do, I really believe. You know, I chat with a lot of others that have NF and that don't go anywhere and this is the way we communicate. We try to encourage others to do just that, to go out with a friend and let people see you and give them a chance to know who you are. And let them see you having fun. I guarantee you, if they see you smiling and enjoying yourself, that will encourage them.

WN: Do you think by you going out and taking pictures and putting them on your blog, that you've made other people wanna do that too?
 * RB: I really believe that and that's what my goal is, to let others that have NF see me doing this. I want to encourage them to do the same thing, they can do the same thing. Give people a chance, smile at them, let them know that you're happy and you're not bitter. I would encourage you to find a friend and go places, just go to as many places as you can think of, and let people see that you're having fun.

WN: Is there anything else you're doing on your website that we should know about?
 * RB: Yes, right know I'm selling T-shirts to help raise awareness and research for neurofibromatosis and to search for a cure.

WN: How has it been going?
 * RB: It's been going great, and I hope it continues to go great.

WN: I've noticed that a couple celebrities are wearing your T-shirt.
 * RB: Yes there is. Sugar Ray Leonard is wearing one, Greg Gorman is wearing one. Those are the ones who are wearing one, and I hope we can get more celebrities wearing my shirt.

'WN: How are blog readers and YouTube users helping you [raising awareness, ed.'']? And I guess that would include MySpace.'''
 * RB: YouTube is going really great. I'm getting a lot of messages from everyone, you know, everyone is on YouTube. We get a lot of messages from people that have never heard of neurofibromatosis and they always add words of encouragement, they say they're gonna share the website with a friend, and I'm always happy to see those.

WN: Tell me about all the internet things that you are involved in.
 * RB: I'm also working with MySpace. I have a lot of MySpace friends. I'm using MySpace, Ringo, YouTube, Facebook, Flickr, and it's used with little cost or no cost and it's really helping a lot.

WN: Why do you think there are so many people with NF on the internet?
 * RB: I really believe that people with NF are really home-based and they feel more at easy talking with friends on the computer. This is were all these accounts come in and it's easier to reach people through the computer.

WN: Reggie, were do you see yourself in five years?
 * RB: I see myself five years from now, still doing the website, I'm gonna continue to do the website, continue to spread awareness of neurofibromatosis until we eventually have a cure. That's what I want, I want to continue until we find a cure for neurofibromatosis.

WN: Are we close?
 * RB: I believe we are close, but still not close enough.

WN: Okay, thank you.
 * RB: You're welcome.


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User talk:Blackholesun

You seem to have a decent understanding of how things work here, but just in case here's the standard welcome message: ==Welcome== , welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! JoshuaZ 18:19, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
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p.s. I'm very happy to an apparent new user is being civil and helpful in this somewhat trying matter. I do hope that regardless of what happens to this article you will stay and help contribute. JoshuaZ 18:19, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Source removal
Regarding the removal of the Jimbo Wales interview and other sources, I think it might make sense to keep them in at least for now because 1) they help paint the broader picture of the dispute and 2) They might help convince people sitting on the fence about the matter that this is more newsworthy. JoshuaZ 15:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Agreement. One of the sticking points in the DR is that there's barely enough sources as is. Removing them just makes it look worse. Jigsaw
 * I'm just going by what it says in the second key policies link that Joshua posted up above. Cite sources says "Only cite sources used for information - do not add sources if you did not include any information from them." —Blackholesun 00:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah ok, good point. That's actually something that seems to be played with a little loosely when their is background stuff that's clearly useful or when the background was used in deciding what should be emphasized or not in the article. But given how much drama this article seems to have connected with it, being careful with the actual policies is probably a good idea. JoshuaZ 01:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

title: User talk:Blackholesun