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Image transfer?
FWIW, could be useful in Former United States press secretary Jerald terHorst dies at age 87. Does the archive policy prevent new pictures? Benny the mascot (talk) 14:31, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The picture is on Commons. --Diego Grez let's talk 15:41, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Singapore-area Wikinewsies?
Are there any Singapore area Wikinewsies? I'm hoping to get at least one person accredited as a reporter, one as a photographer, at the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics. Accreditation has just opened, at least in Canada. (There's also a special "young reporter" accreditation, so literally any Singapore Wikinewsie is eligible.) --  Zanimum (talk) 14:44, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Too bad, I'm based in Malaysia. Wish I could help. --Diagramma Della Verita (talk) 02:27, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Request for WP image
I'm using an iPhone right now, so could someone please help in getting on commons and posted on this article? Thanks! Benny the mascot (talk) 12:00, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry I was about to oblige but now don't think it would be wise to do so, the image just doesn't smell right, the size and quality is not what I would expect from a self taken image nor is there exif data, which I would expect if this image was indeed self taken, or if this image was a crop from a larger image made by the uploader. There is also the fact that the uploader is a serial uploader of non free images as evidenced by his talk page.KTo288 (talk) 12:20, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I have to second KTo288's concerns, the picture looks a bit suspicious for something in the public domain, plus the user's multiple warnings don't look good either. Perhaps something we can take under fair use, though? Tempodivalse [talk]  14:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Interwiki translation
Rodeo: Cristóbal Cortina and Víctor Vergara win Chile Championship is a translation of the original Spanish version. Is there a template that I can use to reflect that? Benny the mascot (talk) 00:21, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * translated Wikinews. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Benny the mascot (talk) 00:30, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Help with my first article
I have written my first article just to have it dismissed as "junk" and not to have neutral point of view.

I was trying to write a short chatty article about an otherwise complicated subject, could someone with a few published articles under their belt have a look and help me with what I am doing wrong.

The article is First Humanoid Robot in Space

Back ache (talk) 11:23, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

 * Well, the reviewer certainly wasn't helpful in describing the article as "junk"; the intro is ok, although perhaps you could use a slightly less "chatty" tone - we're generally not too informal in our articles, if you have a look through some of our other stories. I think the main problem with it is that it's too short - our stories should have at least three medium-sized paragraphs, whereas yours only has two. If you could add a few extra sentences of info in a new paragraph (preferably even more info for additional context), that would fix it. Hope that helps. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:23, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Shorts
Would there be any particular problem with writing a "Wikinews shorts" article focused on local news for the general area where I live, so long as each short has two sources and is complete? In other words, is there a requirement that a story/short has to be notable on a broad scale, or can it be on a local scale? Stories I would include would be along the lines of this, this, and this, which I also found articles on in the local newspaper. Ks0stm  (T •C ) 19:16, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * We accept everything from local to international news, but generally we shouldn't have too much content focused on one article. If you think one or two of those are notable enough, I don't see an issue with including them amidst other shorts. However, there isn't really precedence for having a Wikinews shorts page focused on one topic or geographical area. – Juliancolton  | Talk 19:24, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree; we've published UK Wikinews shorts before. Benny the mascot (talk) 20:56, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm the opinion you should write what interests you. So if this interests you, I say go for it. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:58, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Just making sure. My article on STS-132
Hello, I submitted an article for review and just wanted to make sure it's in position to be reviewed, or there is more I need to do in order to submit ? I tried to follow the directions, sometimes the code-talk is a little tough for me. I am doing my best and will keep it up!

Thanks

Paul —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Grundmaster (talk • contribs) 19:07, 23 April 2010

 * Use the "Create page" dialog box (at the bottom of the Main Page, or top of the Newsroom, or bottom of the Howdy template on your talk page) to create the article, and put the content into the new page. Putting it in a section at Wikinews:Requested articles doesn't work (and the review template shouldn't be put anywhere except on an article page).  BTW, you need sources for the article.  --Pi zero (talk) 22:52, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Article written on category page
Category:Chili Finger Incident seems to serve as both an article and a category. Anyone have any ideas on what to do with it? Benny the mascot (talk) 02:19, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Originally it was just Chili Finger Incident transcluded on there (since that article was meant as an overview article), then at some point Anonoymous101 substituted, and removed most of the categories. Its probably safe to remove the publish off category:Chili Finger Incident, but i don't see there being any problem with the article being on the page. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:16, 27 April 2010 (UTC)


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Android App
I am currently learning Java to make Android apps and I would really like to make one for wikinews so people can get their wikinews on the go easier. Thoughts, opinions, comments, votes? Irunongames •  play  00:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * When you click "New Comment" it auto adds the section header you fill in. Anyways, go for it.  I too am learning android and was planning to try something along these lines once I got proficient enough.  I knew java once upon a time, but it is a wee bit rusty.  You can either build a "Stripper" in the device or my preference is server side.  I wouldn't worry about including anything other than latest news and the article text themselves.  I dunno if you've checked out other news apps (like for the iphone), most of em are purdy simple.  Worse comes to worse and we both write something, we can mash both apps together and convince the foundation to make an SVN slot for us. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 00:39, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * In RE to Water_cooler/technical -> http://code.google.com/p/enwikinews/source/browse/#svn/AndroidReader/trunk  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 06:47, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

WikiNews TV
Hi. I have interviewed a woman today, affected by the Chile earthquake. She has not house now and the department she lived is completely destroyed. It is just an example of many cases that happen here in Chile. The point is, that I'm planning to edit this video and post it to YouTube. YouTube has a partnership program and 'partners' receive royalties for every single video watch. It can be useful for Wikimedia UK or the Foundation. What do you think? The account should be created as WikiNewsTV. --Diego Grez let's talk 22:51, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm...interesting idea! Do you have any specifics? Is there a Youtube website that we can see? Benny the mascot (talk) 22:57, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I have the Wikinews Youtube account. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 22:59, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * For the partners program, would we need to poke the Foundation to set this up? Now I see why you wanted my voice. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  23:07, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know really how does it works, since Chile is not included on the royalties program :( --Diego Grez let's talk 23:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Umm... Isn't Wikinews American, technically? -- Mike moral  ♪♫  23:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

It is. I said that because my account was rejected many times :( --Diego Grez let's talk 23:21, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes...Wikinews already has videos posted on YouTube, btw. There's a woman that apparently used to do newscasts, and another user that made promo videos. Benny the mascot (talk) 23:23, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Any videos posted to youtube should definitely be posted locally. (in commons:Category:Wikinews videos). Bawolff ☺☻ 23:55, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but I'm not going to upload the videos twice ;-) (connection sucks) --Diego Grez let's talk 00:01, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I've created an accout called WikiNewsTV but Shaka has another one. Which one shall we keep? :-P --Diego Grez let's talk 17:40, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The EnWikinews account is the account I created to be our grand unified google services account. It currently runs our Buzz. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 17:45, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

OK. --Diego Grez let's talk 17:47, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

 * Wikinews is not WikiNews. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk'' 14:39, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Newspaper Club
Has anyone else seen Newspaper Club? They've been getting quite a bit of publicity recently, and were nominated for a British design award. Basically they will take either PDFs, or stuff designed with their own tool, and turn them into a 12-page newspaper, either black & white or full colour. They can do relatively small print runs, though the more copies you print, the cheaper it gets. This might be a good way to promote Wikinews, and it seems like an ideal thing to ask Wikimedia UK about funding.

Unfortunately the turnaround time seems to be quite long, so I thought about doing a "best of Wikinews" compilation (featured articles, exclusive interviews etc.) rather than just recent news. I've already got a beta invitation to Newspaper Club, and would be happy to put a PDF together if people think it's a good idea. Then we can see about approaching WMUK. the wub "?!"  10:19, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, Best of Wikinews as a bi-monthly magazine type thing might be cool. Typically in a two month period we have some OR pieces which are not really time specific, so stil relevent even a month later. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:01, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * To be honest I was only thinking of doing this as a one-off promotional thing, to give out at events or whatever. Sure, if it's successful we can think about making it a regular thing, but 12 pages of newspaper is a surprisingly large amount to fill (especially when you consider the amount of an average paper that is taken up by adverts). And then there's the cost issue. the wub "?!"  23:43, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There's also MagCloud which Wikia has a bulit in extension, not to mention the MediaWiki book tool. However, I agree, I've been thinking of doing something similar, mostly as one-offs. --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 06:06, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks interesting. One point to note from my experience in Alexandria is, you have to have the print edition ready every single day, at around 9am local for where the conference is. The organisers will happily cover photocopy costs, and give you printer access to run off the initial copy. They just kept vanishing at Wikimania, doing the same for all wiki-related conferences would be ideal, and our license would allow conference sponsors to use a custom template with a couple of adverts in it. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

CAT: forward to Category namespace
I propose we have CAT: forward to the category namespace, like WN does to the Wikinews namespace. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  19:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 19:57, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Bawolff ☺☻ 19:59, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Tempodivalse [talk]  20:04, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Benny the mascot (talk) 22:41, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If no one objects, I'll file a bugzilla request after midnight UTC. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  23:10, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * --Thunderhead (t - e - c) 13:00, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Bug 23218 filed. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  04:28, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * devs did it. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:13, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Contest 2.0
So we've got the writing content, it worked out well in the beginning...but kinda fell off. This is expected (in my book) since people tend to lose interest in things like this quickly. I've mentioned this before and I'll mention it again, the next contest should be short - like a week. Make them shorter and more often. Can have one a month. On top of that, I have a suggestion for a concrete reward: "Featured Wikinewsie" (Trademark pending). I think it would be nice to replace a box on the homepage (for say a week) with it, Tempo disagree's. We could have a WN:Featured or something similar. Anyways, it wouldn't be a big huge thing. Their name (username), picture (if desired) and a short bio or article interests or similar (Ex: "Tempo won the May Wikinewsie contest for his cutting use of the word fellatio in reference to an Icelandic Volcano", ok, that might be a little odd, but you get the idea). In the end, the person who wrote the most would be featured for a short time and if it was fairly high profile, it would be a draw for people (especially those outside of wikinews "Hey, I could get recognition for my hard work"). -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 19:49, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've thought of suggesting something like this in the past too, like a "Wikinewsie of the Month/week" to give a certain user special recognition/perhaps a barnstar. However, I'd have to disagree with putting a user's bio or devoting a lot of space on the main page - I think there are more useful things we can devote the few available slots to (maybe add a link to Wikinewsie of the Month somewhere on MP, i.e. the header, but no more).

 * I do like the overall idea of this, though. We could determine a winner by number of articles created, and use a scoring system similar to the current contest's one. Perhaps also give out barnstars and keep a list of past winners to help encourage more contributions? Tempodivalse [talk]  20:45, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

 * I wouldn't mind doing two week long competitions. I could hold one every once and a while, using our rules now of course (maybe a little extra for OR). I like the idea of a Wikinewsie of the month thing too. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  23:14, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Me too. --Diego Grez let's talk 14:51, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

 * If anyone's interested see User:Mikemoral/Sandbox. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  22:31, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Count me in. I wouldn't mind putting something on the main page, maybe in place of the "in development" section; some of the links there are really embarrassing, copyvios, articles that failed review, painfully stale stuff, etc. C628 (talk) 16:17, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Geocoding?
We have Location thanks to me from time long past (Stolen from commons or wp... or somewhere). Anyways, the idea was to geotag our news based on it's location. Some of the news isn't applicable or too large of area to be tagged, but a lot of it is. Looking at the main page now, articles like Chinese earthquake and Icelandic Volcano are really easy candidates. Some of them you could fudge, like the Twitter/LOC story you could tag with the LOC's location. Previously this idea never really gained ground, but I thought I'd mention it again and see if others were interested in helping/gaining some traction. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 05:34, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a good idea. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  05:39, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, I will definitely use this where possible. Geotagging is great, I don't know why other news services haven't adopted it. the wub "?!"  15:08, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Just for the record. Part of the reason I mention this is because in the Mobile Reader App (and even on the web, though not on wiki) I could create a "News near you" based on your current GPS location. Granted we don't have a _lot_ going on now, but in the future it could be more useful. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 06:16, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

 * This is a good idea. I don't know why we haven't done this more, it's really a helpful little feature. Tempodivalse [talk]  18:31, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Namespace for "News briefs"
I saw that "News Briefs" are published in the main namespace. Why don't they have an own namespace, since there is a contributor that is focusing on it? It would be great in my opinion. What do you think. --Diego Grez let's talk 01:44, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think that there would be a particular need for it. They're still news articles. And besides, only the main namespace is the only one configured for the comments namespace and liquid threads. If we were to move News briefs to a seperate namespace, comments would be... "Comments:Briefs:April 28, 2010" at the very best. --Thunderhead (t - e - c) 01:55, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think they need to be published. They are just pieces of other published news. They can't be published, or the older ones should be deleted as stale. --Diego Grez let's talk 01:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I tend to agree with Thunderhead. Just like I would oppose a "Wikinews Shorts" name space, it's just not necessary. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  01:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

 * Too much work, too little use. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 02:00, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with the above, it just doesn't seem necessary and there's not really any added benefit to having them in their own namespace. We already have too many namespaces as it is [read: get rid of portals :b ]. Tempodivalse [talk]  03:19, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think they should get another news brief. They are not news articles (if they were they would not have category:Brief on them to hide them from the dpls), but they are in the main namespace. Everyone of them use the pseudo-namespace News brief. Why not make it a real namespace. As for comments, that could be handled by just Comments:News briefs:..., but really no one has ever actually used the comments namespace for news briefs, so it doesn't really matter. (For the record, we're talking about audio news briefs here (News briefs:June 21, 2009). Not article briefs (Business Brief for December 12, 2005). Bawolff ☺☻ 20:41, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

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Chilean musicians perform concert for Peralillo, Chile residents

April 17, 2010 More than 50 musicians held a concert for and donated school tools to schoolboys at Peralillo, Chile The Víctor Jara High School and the Violeta Parra School were both affected by the 2010 Chile earthquakes.

Peralillo is part of the O'Higgins Region and is located around 10 kilometers from Santa Cruz along the road to Pichilemu. It has almost 10,000 inhabitants, most of whom work in agriculture. The Víctor Jara High School and the Violeta Parra School were severely damaged by the earthquakes. The musicians gave the students musical instruments and school tools such as pencils, erasers, and rulers in addition to books for their school libraries.

Some of the artists that went to Peralillo include Juanita Parra (drummer of Los Jaivas), José Seves (Inti-Illimani), Cecilia Echenique, Alexis Venegas, Denisse (Aguaturbia) and K-Reena. Two hip-hop bands, Zaturno, and Juana Fé, performed in the centre of Peralillo on Friday morning.


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I didn't took any pictures but I assisted the event and saw when the musicians gave their donations, I based this on El mercurio article, too. --Diego Grez let's talk 21:21, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit protected request
editprotectedPlease add Category:O'Higgins Region and Category:2010 Pichilemu earthquake. --Diego Grez return fire 20:27, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Benny the mascot (talk) 13:34, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought at least two sources were required. Am I worng? Just one Spanish translation with nothing else to verify? Mattisse (talk) 00:32, 26 April 2011 (UTC)


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North Korea denies involvement in sinking of South Korean warship

April 18, 2010

North Korea today denied any involvement in the sinking of a South Korean naval ship, the ROKS Cheonan on March 26.

In its first official statement on the disaster, in which 38 people were killed, North Korea denied any involvement in the incident. A North Korean military officer was quoted by the state-run news agency KCNA as saying that "The puppet military warmongers, right-wing conservative politicians and the group of other traitors in South Korea are now foolishly seeking to link the accident with the North at any cost."

North Korea's statement comes a day after South Korea blamed the sinking of the ship on an external explosion, which has served to increase speculation that North Korea was responsible for the incident. Although South Korean officials have not said specifically that North Korea is to blame, saying only that the possibility of North Korean involvement is being investigated, analysts and the media in South Korea have been speculating on a possible retaliation from South Korea, although a military response is not expected.

Earlier this week, the stern section of the ship was recovered from the site of the sinking, and investigators from several countries are examining the wreckage in an effort to determine the cause. Yesterday, a lead investigator said that "It was highly likely that it was an external, rather than internal, explosion" that caused the ship to sink.

The controversy surrounding the sinking of the ship is likely to reflect poorly on the South Korean government, which has already been criticized as mounting a slow response to the wreck. Before the incident, South Korean President Lee Myung-bak had reportedly been trying to arrange a meeting between officials from the two Koreas, and if signs of North Korean involvement become evident, it could undermine Lee's credibility in South Korea, as he would likely be seen as having left holes in South Korea's defense.


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Man shot after attempting to drive through US-Mexico border

April 18, 2010

At 8:50 AM local time (15:50 UTC) a man attempting to enter the United States at the Tijuana – San Diego section of the US – Mexican border, tried to escape U.S. customs officers, after he could not provide official documentation. According to Lieutenant Kevin Rooney of the San Diego police department, "the agent referred the driver to a secondary inspection and he [the driver] quickly accelerated away."

The acceleration caused him to crash into a pickup truck. It is thought he was trying to force the other vehicle out of the way. When customs officers surrounded the vehicle, the driver went into reverse, which led to two officers opening fire on the vehicle. The man was shot only once and the wound was not life threatening.

Police officials believe the driver tried to flee because the vehicle was reported to have been stolen from Colorado.


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6.3 magnitude quake strikes Papua New Guinea

April 18, 2010 A 6.3 magnitude earthquake struck eastern Papua New Guinea at 9:15 AM local time on Sunday morning (23:15 Saturday UTC). The epicentre was 30 kilometers east of Lae, and 300 kilometers north of Port Moresby the capital of Papua New Guinea. The quake had a depth of 66.2 kilometers (41.1 miles).

The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center in Hawaii has not issued any alerts related to the quake, and so far no injuries have been reported. Papua New Guinea National Disaster Centre officials in Lae told Reuters that while they were unaware of any buildings collapsing, the people of Lae did feel the quake.

Papua New Guinea is commonly hit by volcanic activity, earthquakes and tidal waves. Almost 3 years ago to this date, an earthquake with the same magnitude hit the area. On that occurrence no casualties were reported either.


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Wikinews:Dynamic quiz/quiz/2010/16

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Talk:Australian rules football: 2010 Gippsland Football League round 2 - Traralgon v Wonthaggi

OR

 * Scoring
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 * Wonthaggi 2-3 15
 * Traralgon 4-5 29
 * 2nd Quarter
 * Wonthaggi 4-6 30
 * Traralgon 7-5 47
 * 3rd Quarter
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 * Fourth Quarter
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The author David H. Ahl in his book 'The TRS-80 Model 100 and NEC PC-8201 Idea Book, page 60.

By the way, Pi * sqrt(Phi)=4


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You have to use 2 decimal place accuracy for Phi=1.62 and Pi=22/7


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Thread:Comments:United Nations: More people with access to cell phones than toilets in India/Neoliberalism is dead./reply (8)

.....This was your first thought? Mine was the exact opposite.

After all, who is probably offering the cell phone services? Public or private sector? Who is probably offering the sanitation services? Public or private sector?


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Thread:Comments:United Nations: More people with access to cell phones than toilets in India/Neoliberalism is dead./reply (9)

Well, North Korea seems like a nice place.


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Difference: Isadora Duncan wanted to wear her scarves. Dadoun was religiously required to wear her "scarf". For one, it's a matter of choice. For the other, it's a matter of God saving her from the eternal fires of hell. Go religion!


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I just wanted to check on sex offenders in my local area —68.92.100.80 (talk) 04:37, 18 April 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Eyjafjöll 2010 eruption

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exactly, the private sector is perfectly willing to expand access to luxury commodities for the wealthy upper middle classes, but when it comes to the most basic safety necessities for the average citizen, not to mention the many millions living in poverty, they somehow fail to deliver.


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Thread:Comments:UN report says death of Benazir Bhutto preventable; fault of government/Sadly/reply (6)

It seems we share that suspicion


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Suicide car bomber kills seven in Kohat, Pakistan

April 19, 2010

Seven people were killed and 26 injured in the city of Kohat in northwestern Pakistan on Sunday after a suicide bomber detonated a car bomb near a police station, police officials said.

"It was a suicide attack, the target was a police station," Dilawar Khan Bangash, police chief of Kohat, told AFP news agency. He said that all those killed in the attack were civilians. The explosion occurred at the back of the police station.

"Seven people have been killed and 21 were injured in this car suicide attack," Abdullah Jan, another high ranking police official, told reporters. His statement was made soon after the attack, before the number of injured was revised upward. "These incidents are a reaction to the military operation in the tribal areas," he claimed. Another police officer confirmed what Jan and Bangash had said, saying that approximately 200 kilograms of explosives were used.

The station was badly affected by the attack, and three rooms of a government-run primary school were destroyed. Seven local shops were also severely damaged.

This attack occurred a day after an earlier suicide bombing killed over 40 people near the same city, and two days after an attack in southern Pakistan killed upwards of ten people.


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Formula One: Jenson Button wins 2010 Chinese Grand Prix

April 19, 2010

McLaren driver Jenson Button won the Chinese Grand Prix on Sunday and took a ten point lead in the driver's championship in the 2010 Formula One. Teammate Lewis Hamilton finished second in the race, followed by Nico Rosberg for Mercedes.

"It was a tricky race out there and again we called it right," Button commented. "It was not just about being quick, it's about reading the conditions."

Ferrari's Fernando Alonso initially took the lead. He was penalized for starting before the race commenced and given a drive through penalty. He finished fourth as he entered the pit lane four times. Alonso initially took a lead in his Ferrari, but was later penalized for beginning before the race commenced. Rosberg's teammate, Michael Schumacher finished tenth in the race.

Admitting that his performance was disappointing, Schumacher said that the race was one of the "frustrating" ones. "There were some good emotions but there were too many bad. Quite honestly the whole weekend did not work out for myself," he added.

Felipe Massa of Ferrari slipped to sixth from the top position in the driver's championship after a ninth-placed finish. Renault's Robert Kubica was fifth while his teammate Vitaly Petrov finished seventh.

Sebastian Vettel of Red Bull who had taken the pole in qualifying to the main race changed to wet tires and then reversed his decision and finished sixth as a result of this. Mark Webber of Red Bull adopted a similar strategy and finished eighth.

After four races this season, Button is at the top of the driver's championship with 60 points, followed by Rosberg who has 50 points. Hamilton and Alonso are third with 49 points each.

McLaren now leads constructors' standings, with 109 points. They are followed by Ferrari with 90, Mercedes with 78, and Red Bull with 73.


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New cabinet announced in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus
I'm sorry, news articles are not press releases. Articles that just contain some fact/statistical information like a listing of cabinet members aren't acceptable. Probably including more background information can help.

Nice try though!

Cheers, % Gryllida talk 00:43, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

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Thread:Comments:NATO troops kill four people on bus in Afghanistan/Comments from feedback form - "I wonder why driver didn't sto..."/reply (2)

Is it too much to ask that people actually look at the facts and not immediately try to politicize what's happening? KD3P only asked for positive stories, and while they are less common they do exist in Afghanistan just like any other place. It's a bit disturbing that that is all it takes to cause some people to revert to elementary school antics of name calling (though you didn't help your cause by doing the same thing KD3P).

As for military victories, those aren't really positive stories since it still reads "a bunch of people got killed" the sides don't matter it's still unfortunate. The most positive stories are those of fostering trust with locals and helping them. Do any of you know that we hand out school supplies to the kids in Afghanistan and Iraq? Doesn't get reported much cause it's not sensational enough, but it happens. There are a lot of other things like that too. Those are good stories to me.

I feel bad that a buss load of civilians got fired upon and killed, but as someone who is in the US military and currently deployed, I don't think it's fair to play arm chair general about the actions the troops took.

Standard operating procedures for a check point are to signal the driver to slow down and stop their vehicle at least 100 meters out. If the driver continues you fire a warning shot, then a killing shot (this is subject to change under the ROE for that area/command). This progression can all take place in a matter of seconds. When we did this in an exercise it went from signalling to shooting less than 10 seconds. Depending on the speed and distance of the vehicle headed towrd the checkpoint it could be more or less than that.

Also it should be noted that the reason vehicles are stopped that far out is because if they're packed with explosives they probably wont kill the people at the checkpoint at that range (though it's not exactly gauranteed).

From the description of the incident the troops there did exactly what they were trained to do. I would like to know why the driver felt that speeding toward people with guns was a good idea, or why he didn't stop. Personally I wouldn't it seems like a good way to get shot, for reasons that are all too apparent at this point.

And yes I know that I'm biased toward giving the military the benefit of the doubt, but from the report this doesn't seem like one of the times a scared or trigger happy soldier shot someone. As you've all pointed out there are already a lot of those stories out there.


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Finally, these guys were saying they were doing "God's work". Looks like God is punishing them for using His name do to do evil.


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Fourteen dead in two attacks in Somalia

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A land mine blast in Mogadishu, the capital of Somalia, has killed eight people, and mortars launched by rebels at the city airport killed six others, according to witnesses and doctors. The al-Shabaab group was said to be responsible for both the attacks by police officials, although they did not claim responsibility for it.

"All the mortar rounds missed the airport but landed in civilian areas," Ali Muse, coordinator of ambulance services, told Reuters news agency. Five of the six people were killed in the Bakara market, four of them being women. The rebels opened fire soon after President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed and the parliament speaker arrived late on Saturday.

The earlier attack occurred near a police station in southern Mogadishu. Several government soldiers died in the attack. Ali Gab, a local police official, said five police officials died in the attack, and blamed al-Shabaab for it. Fadum Hassan, a nurse at a hospital where the injured was being treated, said twenty critically injured people had been admitted to the hospital.

"The explosion killed five soldiers and three [civilians]. Human flesh was everywhere and some of the injured victims were screaming for help," eyewitness Yusuf Abdulqader told Reuters. Relatives of the victims of the attack have blamed the al-Shabaab for the blast. "They have massacred our people, they don't care for our people, our flag and sovereignty," cried Fadumo Abdi, whose son died in the attack.

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They fail to even have the decency to hide their indecent spendings. Space exploration is for the countries like India or China who do produce something more than terrorists, weapons of mass destruction and kitch media and also have an excedentary balance. Hehehe, after all, they are the same ones who do it under the american flag as well.


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I've been checking such articles the for what seems like years! I'd like to know how and when the problem will be solved.


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People are so stupid. How can someone supposedly become the President of the United States, without people being concerned about where he was born and who he is? Seriously, go ahead liberals, and give nuclear weapons capable of destroying the world, to someone who can't even PROVE where he was born. I'm sure the Democrats voter lists were full of people who couldn't prove where they were born.

There are a lot more people who WERE ACTUALLY BORN IN THE UNITED STATES who also doubt that Obama is President of Anything, let alone the U.S.A.


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Comments:FIFA receives eleven bids for 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Australia or U.S.A for 2018/2022 in my opinion I think Australia might be the winner of that world cup..

Comments from feedback form - "Thanks to all authors"
Thanks to all authors —217.44.100.82 (talk) 21:07, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

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i like it —96.224.187.198 (talk) 16:29, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

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Considering 11 countrys including joint countries made bids to host the fIFA WORLD CUP I think that Fifa should change picking host countrys and who ever wins the World Cup should be the next host nation.

Yours Faithfully. Martin Blatter —87.40.32.168 (talk) 14:33, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

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There could be more details of how confident each bidders are with their prospect. And why are they bidding this time. Especially Australian, Indonesian and Qatari authorities. —117.201.99.83 (talk) 03:39, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Qatar is the best one for 2022 world cup

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ENGLAND -2018 Confirm that to me ! —117.193.243.170 (talk) 13:17, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

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very bad —58.9.168.184 (talk) 01:51, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

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awsome —117.254.185.9 (talk) 11:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

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give england the world cup please i will give you a tenner —62.171.194.42 (talk) 10:25, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

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I think South Korea will be apt to Organise a beautiful spectacle of World Class Soccer and their early bid indicates that they are seriously thinking of giving the World a good return on Investment when the time comes.Bold text I vote for South Korea!-41.92.249.69 (talk) 09:13, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

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good —82.32.51.133 (talk) 20:39, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

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pretty good —218.249.109.158 (talk) 04:36, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

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The 2010 World Cup will be held in South Africa, and Brazil will host the 2014 World Cup.

The 2010 World Cup will be held in South Africa, and Brazil will host the 2014 World Cup.

This should now read "The 2010 World Cup was held in South Africa, and Brazil will host the 2014 World Cup. —209.180.202.206 (talk) 23:29, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

 * No it shouldn't. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 00:46, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

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I just wonder how newsworthy this is - yet another GOP pol turns out to be a birther. The woman who almost was VP is a birther, and that's not news any more so in what sense is the borderline lunacy of a small-town mayor news? Unless of course he decides to run as VP in 2012 like Palin did (she was also a small-town mayor)


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Son of Illinois Senate President charged with driving under the influence

April 19, 2010

The son of Illinois Senate President John Cullerton allegedly drove under the influence (DUI) early Sunday morning while using a state-funded vehicle. Local police report that 26-year-old Garritt M. Cullerton was pulled over in downtown Chicago shortly after midnight and registered a blood alcohol level of .188, more than twice the legal limit of .08.

Chicago police spokeswoman Antoinette Ursitti told the local press that Cullerton has been charged with "DUI, negligent driving and improper lane usage." He is to appear in court on May 26. Senator Cullerton's office confirmed that his son was driving a 2009 Ford Escape registered to the state Senate, and added that "the Senate President is disappointed that this incident occurred and takes this matter very seriously. He will work to ensure that this does not occur in the future."

John Cullerton in 2008 sponsored legislation that requires DUI offenders to prove that they are sober by blowing into an electronic device every time they want to start the car. One of the strictest in the country, this law primarily targets first-time offenders.


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Separate thought process: the President of the United States doesn't need to have been born in America. The President only needs to convince people of that fact. It's really quite a reliable process. If a presidential candidate can't convince enough people of their legitimacy, the candidate won't be elected. Soviet spies taking office isn't much of an issue. Obama can and has proven beyond any normal requirements that he was born in Hawaii. If he wasn't, nothing would change. The only change comes about as a result of perception of his place of birth. The perception that his place of birth has not been proven is rather warped. Warped perceptions are a whole different matter that a presidential candidate can't cater to.

Luckily for McCain, he (also) had ample evidence that he was (not) born in America. Shut up; I know Panama counted on a technicality.


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European airlines question flight bans

April 19, 2010 Some of Europe's airlines and airports have called into question whether the mass restrictions imposed on the continent's airspace, due to volcanic ash in the area, are necessary.

Millions of travellers have been stranded by the cancellations; however, some airlines have made test flights to see if there were any immediate effects on jets after flying through ash. Authorities fear that the ash can cause vital aircraft parts, such as the engines, to fail in-flight.

Three large airlines — KLM, Air France, and Lufthansa — have already made test flights. Ulrich Schulte-Strathaus, the head of the Association of European Airlines (AEA), commented: "Verification flights undertaken by several of our airlines have revealed no irregularities at all; this confirms our requirement that other options should be deployed to determine genuine risk."

KLM, meanwhile, said that it will allow three freight planes to make flights to Asia, and had transferred seven passenger planes from Duesseldorf, Germany to Amsterdam, without any travellers.

"We observed no irregularities either during the flight or during the initial inspection on the ground. We hope to receive permission as soon as possible after that to start up our operation and to transport our passengers to their destinations." said KLM chief executive Peter Hartman.

ACI Europe and the AEA also commented about the issue in a statement: "While Europe's airlines and airports consider safety to be an absolute priority, they are questioning the proportionality of the flight restrictions currently imposed." "Airlines must be able to fly where it is safe to fly and make decisions accordingly. It is what our passengers demand of us."

Airport closures and cancellations are estimated to be costing airlines about US$200 million daily, the International Air Transport Association reports.

The operations control head for Eurocontrol, Brian Flynn, rebuffed notions that aviation officials were being too cautious, describing the issue as an "unknown phenomenon". "With the over-riding objective of protecting the travelling public, these exceptional measures have to be taken," he remarked. "[...] As soon as we are able to, with confidence, and when I say we, I mean the entire community of aviation experts [and] aviation authorities, are able to declare parts of the air space and airports open that will be done."

title: European airlines question flight bans