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I believe there is an enormous difference between state preservation of secularism and religious discrimination. The matter we are discussing is a manifest example of the latter.

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 * Before I protect it, was there really anything grammatically incorrect before your edit? It may have been unconventional wording, but still. SVTCobra 00:27, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * "...to commemorate the 65th anniversary since Nazi Germany surrendered." "65th anniversary since...surrendered" does not seem correct to me, only "to commemorate 65 years since...surrendered" or "to commemorate the 65th anniversary of Nazi Germany's surrender" as I changed it to. Heavy Water (talk) 00:40, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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Baseball: Oakland A's pitcher Dallas Braden throws perfect game

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, a left-handed pitcher for Major League Baseball's in the United States, became one of only nineteen players in the history of the MLB to pitch a, in a 4-0 win against the. Braden, aged 26, who retired all 27 batters consecutively on 109 pitches, also earned his first career. In the process of throwing the perfect game, Braden also six Tampa Bay hitters.

The perfect game was the second pitched in the Athletics' franchise history, the other being thrown by pitcher  on May 8, 1968 against the. Braden, at 26, also became the youngest pitcher to throw a complete game since pitcher  did so at age 24 in 1984.

The low crowd at the, at only 12,228, was due to the holiday occurring across the United States, Braden, along with every other Major League Baseball player, donned pink equipment for awareness of breast cancer, which has become a tradition for baseball players on Mother's Day. Braden's own mother died of skin cancer when he was a senior in high school, but his grandmother attended the game.

Braden recently drew controversy in the league after publicly criticizing all-star third baseman  for crossing the pitcher's mound after a foul ball, which Braden claimed to be an "unwritten rule" in baseball. When asked about the no hitter, Rodriguez simply responded, "Good for him, he threw a perfect game. And even better, he beat the Rays," he said, as the Rays lead the American League East division, the same division that Yankees play in.

"Mother's Day hasn't been a joyous day for me in a while. But to know that I still get to come out and compete and play a game on that day, that makes it a little better. With my grandma in the stands, that makes it a lot better. To be able to give her this today was perfect...," said Braden in a post-game interview with.

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Australian rules football: Traralgon remain only undefeated team after five rounds of 2010 Gippland Football League season

May 10, 2010 remain the only undefeated team after five rounds of the 2010 Gippsland Football League season after they defeated by seventy points and Sale defeated Maffra by one point. Warragul remain the only team without a win.

The Gippsland Football League (officially Gippsland League) is the only major Australian rules football competition in the region according to the.

In other games, Morwell defeated Drouin and Moe defeated Wonthaggi.

After five rounds, the standings are;
 * 1) Traralgon (five wins, no losses - 166.67%)
 * 2)  (four wins, one loss - 150.8%)
 * 3)  (three wins, one loss, one bye - 126.32%)
 * 4)  (three wins, two losses - 115.62%)
 * 5)  (two wins, two losses, one bye - 128.28%)
 * 6)  (one win, three losses, one bye - 85.58%)
 * 7)  (one win, three losses, one bye - 68.82%)
 * 8)  (one win, four losses - 46.68%)
 * 9) Warragul (no wins, four losses, one bye - 48.6%)

Scores are quoted as goals-behinds (total).

Warragul lead Traralgon early in the third quarter but were quickly over taken and convincingly beaten. To that point in the game, the defence of both sides dominated not allowing many scoring opportunities. From the fifth minute of the third quarter, the game belonged to Traralgon.

Tim Aitkin kicked six of his nine goals in the last quarter to help Traralgon stamp their authority on the game.

Sale upset ladder leaders Maffra at home. One could have argued that Maffra's inaccurate kicking in the second half cost it the win.

To the end of the third, Maffra lead but could not close out the match. Sale won the match with a goal from a free kick after the full time siren.


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Team        	played 	won 	lost  	draw  	forfiet  for  	against percentage 1 	  Traralgon       	5  	5  	0  	0  	0  	615  	369     166.67 	20 2 	 Maffra          	5 	4 	1 	0 	0 	567 	376 	150.80 	16 3 	 Sale            	4 	3 	1 	0 	0 	384 	304 	126.32 	12 4 	 Morwell         	5 	3 	2 	0 	0 	555 	480 	115.62 	12 5 	 Drouin          	4 	2 	2 	0 	0 	440 	343 	128.28 	8 6 	 Moe             	4 	1 	3 	0 	0 	338 	395 	85.57 	4 7 	 Leongatha       	4 	1 	3 	0 	0 	234 	340 	68.82 	4 8 	 Wonthaggi Power 	5 	1 	4 	0 	0 	267 	572 	46.68 	4 9 	 Warragul        	4 	0 	4 	0 	0 	209 	430 	48.60 	0 --RockerballAustralia c 05:14, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

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Apart from a puzzling sentence about 'both defences' this is a great story. (As a suggested extra, I think non-Aussie viewers would benefit from subtitles or a transcript of the song video, as the sound quality isn't as clear as it might be.

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I cn't get a transcription for you right now but will endevour to get one for future reference --RockerballAustralia c 21:08, 10 May 2010 (UTC)


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Pay-to-view sources?
What is the policy on pay-to-view sources? Is there an exemption where institutions (like colleges and public libraries) subscribe to news databases? What if I bought a hardcopy newspaper? --InfantGorilla (talk) 10:10, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

 * I hadn't read WN:CITE for a while (and couldn't remember its address.) I see from that that the answers are no (colleges) yes (public libraries) yes (if I buy a newspaper.)

 * I missed the 'See here' links, and I suggest that we find an alternative to floating them off to the right.

 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 11:54, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

 * ✅ You're quite right; the floats are easy to miss. I absorbed their links into the content of the checklist.  --Pi zero (talk) 19:09, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

From the Portal page text
Read down to the heading "Developing communities from portals"

It reads, "The discussion on the local proposal is leaning towards the policy that local communities should have the right to maintain their own NPOV/style guidelines... "

Consider that, as a reviewer. 24.125.55.90 (talk) 06:06, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Points out that that page was last changed in 2009, and subsequent discussions have certainly taken consensus elsewhere.* In fact, I'm going to remove the outdated material. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:01, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Big picture
Perspective is still in short supply, although a checklist is handy if one understands how to wield it. --Pi zero (talk) 17:39, 21 May 2013 (UTC) --Pi zero (talk) 05:06, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Review has three intertwined facets: copyediting, source-checking, and providing feedback.
 * Considerations when ordering review on a long review queue.
 * Tactics — pass and recommend for future; pass and submit a change for someone else to review.
 * Authentication and verification of OR.
 * Recommend breaking edits during review into small units, with an eye toward useful diffs and explanatory edit summaries; helps author learn, and tends to cause reviewer to think about and hone xyr technique. Also helps to clarify the extent of the reviewer's edits.

Small things first
If I was giving advice, the first is to check the small stuff. The small stuff often takes a lot of time to fix, and if there are enough problems, tend to indicate bigger problems that will likely result in article not passing review. If there are enough of these small things, kick it back to the reporter:

 * Is there an infobox/newsbox on the side?
 * Is there a picture? Is the picture properly licensed?  Does it have image credit?
 * Are there multiple categories? Do the categories include at least one continental location and one major topic?
 * Are the sources properly formatted? Are the dates in the sources properly formatted per the style guide?
 * Does the lead answer WHEN an event took place using relative dating and WHERE the news took place?

After looking for those things, fixing the small ones if only one or two problems, then I will not ready or start a more extensive review. --LauraHale (talk) 06:30, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

First cut
A whole bunch of basic, first-cut stuff is omitted by the current "How much to do" section; the current section is kind of theoretical, and best applies to reviewing articles by regular contributors. It's not even clear whether to put this stuff before or after the current material, nor how to arrange the outline to accommodate both.

This is also related to another sticky issue I've noticed: I, and presumably other experienced reivewers, have all sorts of advice we can offer, that's somewhat (and sometimes, much) too much personal-judgement for a general guideline like this. Some of what I'll say here is like that.

There are about four kinds of reviews by quality:
 * The most off-target stuff. A lot of stuff calls for either template delete, notnews, or sometimes copyvio; then there's stuff that calls for some slightly less drastic tag such as sources or for a trivial not-ready review.
 * These are relatively easy to handle.

 * Badly off, but a credible effort. These folks deserve to be taken seriously.  There's a balance to strike here:  likely we'll never hear again from many of them, and if we put a whole lot of effort into those we've just lost a whole lot of effort; but mixed in with those are some who if properly nurtured may become valuable future Wikinewsies, and if we fail to put enough effort into those we've missed precious opportunities.  Beware of not-ready'ing for one problem and failing to notice another major problem, because this can make the review process much more frustrating for a writer who does sincerely try to fix and resubmit:  they fix one major problem only to be told there's another major problem that wasn't mentioned before, and perhaps another after that.  It's probably a good idea to use the dupdet tool (carefully! as noted in the section on copyvio, don't interpret its output naively) along with whatever else one does, so that copyvio doesn't come as a surprise later.
 * These reviews can be moderately draining. (Writing good review comments on these is an important task, which one would like to provide semi-automated assistance for while, of course, avoiding measures that will sound boiler-plate.)

 * Plausible, but likely to have significant flaws. These can be the most time-consuming reviews of all, and sometimes produce publications but sometimes produce some very painful not-ready's.  It tends to take hugely more effort to determine that something isn't verified by the sources than to determine that it is in the sources.  Beware of making massive efforts to correct non-neutrality — it's pretty much always a mistake, because it leaves the writer as a sort of unexploded bomb on the project.  The review process doesn't work to produce good published articles if the writer isn't trying to meet project standards; reviewers prevent lots and lots of unacceptable stuff from getting through, but the stuff that does get through really has to have had two people (writer and reviewer) both trying for the same target.  Re neutrality, for any but the most minor issues the writer should be required to make the changes, and if they aren't willing to then it would only create problems to do it for them.
 * Most learning Wikinewsies must pass through a phase, sometimes a protracted phase, where they're producing these sorts of articles.

 * High-end articles. Experienced Wikinewsies produce articles that, while they may require significant effort to review, usually don't have that sort of draining, hard-to-identify and hard-to-decide-how-to-handle problems.  The review process is likely to be smooth even though it does turn up things to be fixed and may take some time.  Experienced writers tend to take measures to facilitate review.  (A classic case is the "On the campaign trail" series, where lots of writing effort went into making review tractable, and it made a big difference, and even so reviewing them was a huge task — and the results were collectively fantastic.)

I've also been accumulating these ideas for years as part of understanding why review is so much work — except for the extreme high and low ends of the spectrum, the low-quality submissions are apt to take as much, or sometimes much more, effort for the reviewer as/than for the writer, whereas the pool of reviewer labor is inevitably much smaller than the pool of writer labor (the core problem I mean to address through semi-automation for both writers and reviewers). --Pi zero (talk) 14:15, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Preliminary pass
Some kinds of errors are important to catch quickly, even if a full review is deferred till somewhat later. For OR, check that the submitter's reputation suffices for the purpose, and check that all needed documentation is present, including stuff to scoop having arrived, in its entirety, and wasn't corrupted (so, it's readable). For synthesis and OR, basic formatting and organization, neutrality, and the like should be checked early because if they're wrong, the reporter needs to know that ASAP and the article needs to be marked and preferably removed from the queue so that some reviewer doesn't accidentally come along and, in a momentary flub, fail to notice, and publish with the problem. (We once had a deeply non-neutral piece get published that way, by iirc an experienced reviewer, and we had to issue a retraction.) --Pi zero (talk) 02:29, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Why review works
Two-person short-term collaboration versus mass long-term collaboration. Importance of the reporter being on-board. --Pi zero (talk) 15:09, 4 September 2019 (UTC)


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Investigation into US Airways river ditching in New York completed
Better written than the sources. --InfantGorilla (talk) 16:09, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

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 * as author... Certainly, it would not be the first FA voted in on the basis of being better than other coverage of the same story. I'm a touch concerned about the length, though. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:56, 12 May 2010 (UTC) - Changed to oppose per the two below me - actually re-reading the thing and particularly the kb count lead me to agree that the length falls far short of an FA. It's not like I'm short of the damn things ;).  Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:50, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * on the basis that it is very short (less than 6kb total, much less than average FA standard), and that it doesn't seem to stand out as "best of the best". It's good, no doubt, just unsure that it stands out significantly amongst our average work. Tempodivalse [talk]  18:26, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed with Temp, I wouldn't call it something new writers can use as an example as a truly great and deservedly featured article. --James Pain (talk) 14:41, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * per above. --Diego Grez return fire 22:40, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Result: Not Successful. --James Pain (talk) 14:30, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Chilean earthquakes in the O'Higgins Region: a photoessay
My second photoessay in the same rythm as my first one. I think the pictures are outstanding and that's my greatest OR. --Diego Grez return fire 00:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Comments

 * This is a serious and thorough example of what Wikinews aims for. I would ask you to ignore the couple of blurry shots and the occasional idiosyncrasy of phrasing, to showcase an example of work from a citizen who went out to find the news, presented it well, even uncovered a pair of 'before and after' images: and donated it all to the commons.  --InfantGorilla (talk) 08:56, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * :) They would have been better if my camera had not fell down from the second floor during the earthquake. --Diego Grez return fire 17:56, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Votes

 * as nominator and creator. --Diego Grez return fire 00:43, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * per my comment above. --InfantGorilla (talk) 08:56, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar enough with the process to be casting a support, but I think this article is brilliant (my esteem for the nominator aside). This is where WN flourishes- having the article written by someone who is right there, right now and has the local knowledge to get the right photos (rather than flying half-way round the world). There are a few grammar flaws, but i don't know how far the archival policy allows those to be tweaked. HJ Mitchell  Penny for your thoughts?   15:14, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * As long as the meaning or context isn't altered, it's perfectly acceptable under archiving policy to correct small typos or grammar errors. WN:ARCHIVE has more info on this. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:49, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * OK then, I've made a few suggestions on the talk page and stuck an editprotected on it :) HJ Mitchell  Penny for your thoughts?   16:10, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * provided the copyedit is done. I started to work on it myself but I gave up when I discovered that every change needs done twice. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Photo essays on WN are always nice. --James Pain (talk) 18:04, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * — I love seeing photoessays:). A well done photoessay can take just as much work as a long article. Gopher65talk 12:59, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * because this really is the sort of work we want to encourage. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:10, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Result: Success Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:54, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Polish President Lech Kaczyński dies as his plane crashes in Russia
I had started this article initially and later others expanded it. It seems quite comprehensive to me and it is likely that the article is quite close to FA standard. I'm not entirely sure about it, but it seems good enough to me. Pmlineditor discuss 09:47, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Votes

 * Kenrick talk 06:05, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Even though it is an article about someone's death, it's still very well written. --James Pain (talk) 23:50, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
 * good to me. --Diego Grez return fire 00:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Result: Approved

Tony Blair tells Iraq Inquiry he would invade again
This is an article I feel goes quite in-depth about Britain's involvement in the Iraq war and reasoning by Blair as to why he would have authorised the British Army to participate in the invasion again, along with information regarding questions as to the legality of the invasion and subsequent response. This has provided for excellent context making the article easier to understand for those who may not be fully aware of the information surrounding the Iraq war as it relates to the UK. Calvinhrn (talk) 17:03, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Votes

 * as author. Δεν δοδγε  τ\c 17:06, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * As nominator. Calvinhrn (talk) 17:23, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Loving the layout and quite a defining moment. Worth being featured. --James Pain (talk) 00:15, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Result: Successful! --James Pain (talk) 00:16, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Wikinews discusses H1N1 with the WHO
This is an article I feel a bit of pride behind. I spent about a month with Elizabeth Mah chatting via email to gather all the answers and a bit of time waiting for the okay from the WHO's virologists. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  02:27, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Votes

 * As nominator. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  02:27, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Benny the mascot (talk) 04:10, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Good piece of OR. Pmlineditor discuss 16:35, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * --James Pain (talk) 23:47, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Result: Successful. --James Pain (talk) 00:10, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

2010 BRIT Awards highlights
I am certain that this is the longest article that I have ever written. It is certainly longer in length than some articles that are currently featured. I also think that this is really in-depth. It is partially a broadcast report. I believe that this is worthy for becoming a featured article, but what do you think? -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 22:06, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Votes

 * as nominator. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 22:06, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's long enough and well written, but the FA criteria says a featured article should have pictures which this one does not. Pmlineditor discuss 11:36, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * as noncompliant with the featured article criteria. Benny the mascot (talk) 04:55, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * per Benny and Pmlineditor. --Diego Grez let's talk 17:14, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd like to note that images aren't an absolute must for articles; IIRC we've had some articles with few to no images. I personally don't really care about that aspect. However, I'd prefer that the article was a bit longer - it's over 11kb, but a lot of that is simply source/related news formatting, and name lists, which i don't really think count as part of the main prose. It's a nice article, but i'm not sure that sufficiently "stands out" amongst our regular work for FA. Sorry. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:05, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Result: Not Successful. --James Pain (talk) 00:08, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Icelandic government passes Icesave deal; €12,000 debt per citizen
Now that it's old enough, I'm submitting this one. I'll let the people on NewsTrust give their opinions. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:35, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Comments

 * This was submitted in January, can I issue a fresh appeal for consideration, or closing? -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk' 20:45, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Votes

 * Another great article, but at barely 6.7kB - and a lot of that is source formatting - it's kinda scraping it for depth, current community opinion seems to be that FAs should have a minimum of around 10kB. It's not significantly larger than our average article. A good article, no doubt, just not, imo, the "best of the best". FA, in my mind, should only be reserved for our biggest, most in-depth "scoops", or when our coverage has been significantly more detailed than that of most mainstream sources. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:51, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * On that latter point, it was. Absolutely nobody else mentioned Mandelson's involvement (from Wikileaks, after he'd left the European Commission); nobody else, in the then-current coverage, mentioned Icelanders comparing the deal to the German terms post-WWI, or that the Icelandic government considered this a force majeur where they could default and walk away. Had I gone into the implications of that you'd have jumped on me for NPOV concerns. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:03, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

 * --Great coverage, read a few of the NewsTrust opinions and agree with them but you as well, re referencing Wikipedia articles for more background info.    Tris   18:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Owing to its status as outstanding beyond the mainstream media coverage. I have an FA voted in on the same basis. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:05, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It's a little short, but it's good enough. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 11:46, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

'''Result: More than enough time has passed. Approved.''' --James Pain (talk) 00:02, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Chilean earthquakes: in pictures
I really like how this article ended. I put a lot of work on this and I think this is my best article. I've taken the most of the photos that are on the gallery. What do you think? --Diego Grez let's talk 02:49, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Votes

 * as nom. --Diego Grez let's talk 02:49, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * , nice photogallery and well deserving of FA. Tempodivalse [talk]  21:25, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * , surely a good gallery. Pmlineditor discuss 11:04, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Very nice gallery. Excellent work, Diego. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 11:36, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Great photos + great OR Irunongames  •  play  00:48, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Great OR. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  02:28, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Very nice. Benny the mascot (talk) 04:56, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Closed as promoted --Pmlineditor discuss 09:12, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Interview with Reggie Bibbs on his life with neurofibromatosis
This article does make for a very interesting read. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 11:35, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Votes

 * --RockerballAustralia (talk) 23:30, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * as nominator. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 23:39, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks pretty good to me. Pmlineditor discuss 11:42, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Great work. -- Cirt (talk) 06:02, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Great interview. Poor man, it gives another point of view of the life. --Diego Grez let's talk 23:04, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Completely forgot about this one, very in-depth and one of the earliest uses of video in a story. --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 05:41, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Closed as promoted -- Mike moral  ♪♫  22:44, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Haiti relief efforts: in depth and Haitian earthquake: in pictures
I'm nominating these two articles in one vote, because they were intended as "companion" articles to complement each other, and both directly link to each other in the text. I think I did a fairly decent job of compiling both prose and free-use images into an in-depth report. The photoessay has about 32 pictures, mainly of high-resolution, the textual piece has just short of 10kb, which seems about the minimum for an FA. Votes and comments, please. Tempodivalse [talk]  13:07, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Votes

 * The pictures; I know you spent a lot of effort trying to fulfil my wish for a body pile and the resutl was a good collection of images. on the article; it is good coverage, but somehow doesn't "grab" me. I regret not spending about an hour working on it as well; that could have been a huge in-depth and amongst the world's best coverage.  Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:54, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * and as per BRS --RockerballAustralia (talk) 04:32, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * and . For the latter, free images was put before telling a hard-hitting story in visual form; starting with "clinical" maps and the like is not how to present a major disaster. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:11, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with your first point (i'm not good with FU rationales, so i had to stick with free use stuff), but respectfully disagree on the second point. The maps add additional context, i.e. that the most populous areas were the worst hit, to the article in a way that text couldn't do. Tempodivalse [talk]  18:31, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * the article. It's OK, but I'd like it to be a bit more in-depth for an explicitly in-depth article. the gallery, which is fine for me, but not particularly special. –  Juliancolton  | Talk 15:24, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * the gallery. As I said on the talk, I really like it and we really need to do more like it.  A horrific, but excellent set of pictures.  Well done Tempo.   on the article-it's fine-long, nothing extraordinary, but not too bothered either way.     Tris   22:13, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * the gallery, the in depth article. They're both good; I'd like a bit more detail in the in depth one, but it's still easily supportable. Den dodge  T\C 11:18, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * and . -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 11:50, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * the article; not very comprehensive and isn't as good compared to the other FAs. On the other hand, the gallery is quite good; . Pmlineditor discuss 11:41, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Closed as not promoted. Mike moral  ♪♫  19:16, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Payment pending; Canadian recording industry set for six billion penalties?
"As I'm 99.9% confident this is the most comprehensive coverage of this issue and exposes a Machiavellian lobbyist to public scrutiny I would like this, when appropriate, put forward as a WN:FAC." Your wish is granted Brian. Good work. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:07, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Comments

 * Previous nomination was withdrawn for procedural reasons. Benny the mascot (talk) 16:44, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:07, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * (copied partially from the old request) I'm still not totally comfortable with the way things are presented in the article. I hate to be flogging a dead horse, and I'm probably just imagining things, but, even after rereading the "lobbyists?" section several times, I'm not completely satisfied that things are being covered as objectively as they could have been. I decided to drop the issue after a somewhat heated discussion on the talk page, because several other users disagreed with me - plus I didn't want to be perceived as nagging/a nuisance - but I'm slightly concerned nonetheless. See talk page of said article for some specific examples of my concerns. If anyone can explain to me in a little more detail how this is sufficiently neutral, and refute my opinions, I'll gladly reconsider my vote as the rest of the article seems great. (Also, minor issue: shouldn't the title be "Payment pending; Canadian recording industry set for six billion in penalties?" They didn't receive 6bn individual penalties, would they?) Tempodivalse [talk]  16:55, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * --Fraid I'm the same as Tempo. I was just planning on abstaining, but there haven't been any other votes for some reason, maybe the same.  Very good coverage Brian & I know it took a huge amount of work, as did your INDECT article that I commented on.  However, we have this NPOV thing and often it's annoying and hard to stay neutral, maybe it's not for the best, but it's here at the moment and is what makes us different, I like to think anyway.     Tris   18:10, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I'm very, very unhappy at these votes on the basis of an appeal to WN:NPOV. They're useless and should be withdrawn if people cannot make clear actionable reasoning as to why an article is not neutral or unduly presents one specific viewpoint. If you're uncomfortable with investigative journalism and feel that is incompatible with Wikinews' project mission – then there's really no point to running the project. These is a notable difference between actively approaching a story from a particular POV and the end-result. I'm quite sure that, in this and the other case you cite, it is clear the critical POV I approached the surface-level story from, and the considerable move towards neutrality. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:42, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I've provided very specific reasoning as to my concern over NPOV on the article talk page, and don't think I'm being unreasonable. I can relist my concerns here if you like. Basically, I don't believe the choice of wording in the "lobbyists?" section is appropriate. Words like "clearly" and "undoubtedly", IMO, try to foist a certain opinion onto the reader; we should let the reader come to his own conclusion whether something is obvious or not. I believe such and similar subjective words should always be avoided outside of quotes. Then there's general phrasing in the "lobbyists?" section: to me, it seems unnecessarily scathing towards Sookman. I can bring up examples of that if needed. And I'm not against investigative journalism; to the contrary, I love when we run "exposé" type reports. But, they still have to be neutral, and represent the opposing point of view fairly. TBH, I don't think this story fully satisfies that. Tempodivalse [talk]  16:05, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Bring it. Exact quotes from the article, specific actionable points where the "other side" was not given an opportunity to present their viewpoint. You didn't see the scheming bastards trying to fob me off that their paid lobbyist was a legal authority on the subject; try to find out his affiliations, who pays for the blog all the media get pointed at? Quite frankly, the opposing side got "enough rope". I don't take kindly to spindoctoring being aimed at me on television, nor via email and illusions created online. They stuck to the line, "nothing to see here, please move along". Well? This article is what they got. You appear to be asking don't publish what you can find if the other side stonewalls and bullshits you because that's not very nice. Wikinews does not have a BLP policy for a very, very good reason; the same reasoning should be applied when you're lied to (including by omission). I chose my words very, very carefully. If you actually do your own research into Sookman, you'll see I was rather charitable to him. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:40, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * *sigh* I see this is turning into a tempest-in-a-teacup. But okay, I'll bring it.
 * The biggest issue I have with the article is the following: "...if not lies, Sookman is undoubtedly not careful or "very qualified" in the way he speaks on the issue..." = This is, IMHO, inappropriate speculation. Regardless of how inept, dumb, lying, cheating, etc., that Sookman really is, Wikinews should not have any opinion on it. We should let the reader come to that conclusion.
 * Other parts of the section aren't as much of an issue, but bother me nonetheless: "What Sookman clearly overlooks is that..." + "As is clear, there is an increase..." = "clearly" is an opinion. To quote one of our policies, WN:WEASEL: "In written language, the word 'clearly' is often used to tell the reader that an argument or discussion is clear when it is not. In cases such as these, it is often useful to substitute the claim of "clearly" with actual clear writing."
 * Also, i'm not, as you said, suggesting that the other viewpoint wasn't given "enough rope". I think you provided more than enough quotes and prose from the other POV to balance it in terms of size. The problem, as I see it, is how the opposing viewpoint is portrayed.
 * Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  18:15, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You're asking me to apply more Wikipediaesque "Assume Good Faith" than anyone here did with Mike Godwin. I despair; he's on our side, but I'm supposed to assume an employee of major record labels isn't actively lying; when, I've lost count of the number of times they've been proven to do so in a court of law. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:58, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The problem here is that what's very obvious to some people isn't to others. Sure, it seems quite clear to you that they're lying (FWIW, I think they are too), but not everybody will; we shouldn't foist that opinion on the reader. Just let the facts speak for themselves; if something truly is obvious, then the reader will come to the same conclusion you have come to, without needing to assert an opinion. Tempodivalse [talk]  20:22, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Talk about tempting me to nominate WN:WEASEL for deletion! You seem to agree my word-choice was most appropriate; then upbraid me on nitpickery related to dumb, inflexible, policies that imply disapproval of such. This is where Wikipedia and Wikinews are poles apart; Wikipedia has its "sanitation team" who'll zap any controversial material or article, Wikinews has (as you'll not see by not long-term lurking in IRC) several people who would welcome legal action against the site for its reportage. Perhaps that's why Mr Godwin, and others on the WMF staff, would like to see the project "gone". --Brian McNeil / talk 10:54, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * "You seem to agree my word-choice was most appropriate..." = um, actually, that's exactly the opposite of what I was trying to convey in my above posts. You really haven't addressed why the content of said article does not violate WN:WEASEL. I don't have much time ATM to argue about this, i'll make a more detailed post later. Tempodivalse [talk]  12:07, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Every single word is backed up by the following few paragraphs and associated images. This is the plain and simple point I'm trying to make. Pulling those little fragments out, out of context, and picking on them absent the context in which they appear does not, to me, qualify for allegations of violation of WN:NPOV or WN:WEASEL. Sookman is authoring a polemicist's blog; he is being paid to advance the CRIA's position and financial interests. He is being paid to call into question the words of anyone who opposes his clients. My word choice is backed up fully by the article content. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:51, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

 * We seem to have gone back to the beginning, and not making any progress. It looks like the root dispute cause here is whether or not words like "undoubtedly" and "obviously" inherently constitute POV. I'm of the opinion that they do, you don't. Can we get some third-party input into this? Tempodivalse [talk]  18:35, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Whoops, sorry I forgot to check back here, hence the lack of answer. I agree with Tempo, regardless of whether it is this article or any other, the words above do not give the impression of being neutral.  It may well be true, and it probably is obvious, but the reader should be allowed to decide that for themselves.  Show it in the facts, without forcing it down their throats.     Tris   22:09, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

 * To once again reinforce my position, at the risk of repeating myself: using words such as "Clearly", "Obviously", and "Undoubtedly" are *always* subjective to personal POV, not neutral, and thus inappropriate outside of quotes. I believe that we should only assume something as fact if A) it is backed up by many reputable sources B) scientifically proven (e.g., the world is round) or C) historically proven (e.g., the Sept. 11 attacks occurred). In most other cases, we should mention who says it's a fact (for instance, "The BBC/USGS/whatever reported that...", or at least, "Reports say that...").
 * That might seem like a bit of an extreme position, but if you look at some of our articles, you'll notice that this is pretty much the principle we follow. For instance, when we talked of O.J. Simpson's '95 murder (or robbery), we called it "alleged" murder. We're very careful not to assert it as a fact, because there was still some dispute on it (and he was acquitted at the trial), even though I know, you know, and practically everybody, knows he really did do it.
 * As I've said before, we should just present the facts without assuming or asserting anything about them. The reader will come to the same opinion as yours if something, truly, is obvious. Tempodivalse [talk]  16:47, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think this is inappropriately conflating synthesis reporting with investigative journalism carried out under the auspices of the project's original reporting policy. What I am saddened by is the lack of participants in this discussion. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:06, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I can understand both sides of the argument, which is why I'm keeping my gob shut and watching with interest. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:08, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * WN:WEASEL and WN:NPOV, and all other policies apply to all articles in the main namespace, regardless of whether they are investigative reports or not. I find it wholly inappropriate to engage in speculation anywhere, even for investigative journalism. That, imo, always introduces a bias. Tempodivalse [talk]  17:41, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Same as Sandman here. – Juliancolton  | Talk 05:05, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

 * -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 23:42, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Closed as no-consensus. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:50, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikimania 2008: MediaWiki use in the U.S. Department of State
Funny thing was, I'd not thought of this one for ages. I ended up using it as an example of MediaWiki usage on LinkedIn. --Brian McNeil / talk 02:19, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Comments
Thanks for the comments with the neutral votes so far. They're encouraging. I can see the reasoning behind them, and, if asked, I'll gracefully withdraw this nomination. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:16, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Let a couple more people take a look, I think. If nothing else it's always good to hear a bit of feedback on your work. If there is still no support, then you could withdraw if you wanted to. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:22, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Votes

 * This was a good read, and I found it quite interesting, but i don't think it's comprehensive or "in-depth" enough for an FA, as there is only 5kB or so of text compared to current minimums, which are around 9-10kB. It's a very good, quality article, no doubt, I'm just not sure it's our "best of the best". Tempodivalse [talk]  21:22, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the positive feedback; was written under somewhat, er, ... "adverse" conditions (at Wikimania, health problems leading to open heart surgery). --Brian McNeil / talk 03:50, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I too am on the fence. I like the article; it's a solid report that does the job of explaining the news very well. The issue, as Tempo says, is that it is scraping it for depth. Not that I can think of much else to add to it, but... Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:13, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * --Interesting read. As said above, it's short, but to me that doesn't neccesarily preclude it from being a FA, but to me, it's not in-depth enough, but it's a really close call, hence the neutral.     Tris   18:15, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting read, although it was quite short and perhaps not in-depth enough. Sorry. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 11:40, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

"Friday the 13" Buffalo, New York snow storm in pictures
Something a little unusual. I think this should become our first featured WN:PHOTOESSAY. Here, it is the quality of the photographs and not the text that should be judged. I'm sure we can all agree that they are quite magical. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:24, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Comments

 * Great photos spoiled by the suckiness of gallery code. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:41, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

 * - I think the gallery should come before everything else since they comprise the main subject of the article. Not sure if this counts as a major content change, though. – Juliancolton  | Talk 05:02, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * That might help; I'd suggest for photoessays the lede not be so long that it pushes the gallery out of sight. Say you want to do that as, "lede, gallery, story continued" then I'd recommend the lede end with a "Continued..." link that skips the gallery and goes to the rest of the story. I don't think rearranging this article in that way qualifies as a significant content change. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:07, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * I had to fix some grammar issues, otherwise this was a good read. Not a lot of prose but it makes up for it with images. I don't see what's especially wrong with the gallery code, it looks ok to me. Tempodivalse [talk]  19:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I've had my grumble above - I dislike the gallery display. The complete piece is good though, and a great deal of work went into making it detailed, interesting, and comprehensive. --Brian McNeil / talk 02:21, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't vote support twice, get in here and vote people! --Brian McNeil / talk 03:53, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * --Thought I'd already voted on this, but here goes.     Tris   18:05, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * as above --RockerballAustralia (talk) 02:24, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Result: Promoted Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:23, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Closed as promoted. Mike moral  ♪♫  19:12, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

City to sue owner of partially collapsed 19th century livery in Buffalo, New York
This was the climax of a great string of OR. Touch short, but amazing work nonetheless. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:38, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Comments

 * I'd hardly call ~15 paragraphs "short". --Brian McNeil / talk 17:39, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

 * THe general standard I've seen here lately is 10kb. It's right on that line. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:41, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Votes
--RockerballAustralia (talk) 02:26, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * , although the first sentence is a bit of a run-on. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:11, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 11:36, 30 January 2010 (UTC)


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UK elections: Gordon Brown offers resignation to secure Labour-Liberal coalition

May 10, 2010

In the latest developments in discussions between the Liberal Democrats and the two largest parties, Gordon Brown has announced his resignation as Labour Party leader and Prime Minister.

Gordon Brown made his statement at 5.00 pm local time in front of 10 Downing Street, London, following a meeting he had yesterday with Nick Clegg, the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party.

He stated that a strong and stable "progressive alliance" of the Labour and parties would be in the best interest of the country and made his resignation as a means to forward this, saying that he would set in motion the process needed for a new leader of the Labour Party to be selected and that a new leader will be in place in the autumn by the time of the next.

However, unlike a Conservative-Liberal alliance, a Labour-Liberal one would not command a majority in Parliament. For the "progressive alliance" to have its majority, it would therefore need to bring in MPs from the smaller parties, something that both the Scottish National Party and Plaid Cymru have stated they would be amenable to.

The current move follows the return of a in the United Kingdom general election on Thursday. The Liberal Democratic Party, who hold the balance of power, have been in negotiations with the Conservative Party.


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POV?
Good work. Not sure about 'Last ditch effort'. If it was my editorial voice yes (it is my POV): perhaps my news voice would be, "In the latest developments in discussions between the Liberal Democrats and the two largest parties ...". --InfantGorilla (talk) 16:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree here; even if not POV, 'last ditch effort' could sound a bit more professional imo. Tempodivalse [talk]  16:44, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thankyou, and done.KTo288 (talk) 17:11, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds better now, thanks! Smile.png Tempodivalse [talk]  17:14, 10 May 2010 (UTC)


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Brown had to make a big gesture to have an influence on the LibDem-Tory talks: as his numerical position in Parliament is much weaker than Cameron's.

This could have two likely effects: to encourage Cameron to make more concessions to the LibDems, or even more dramatically, allow a Lab-LibDem-Rainbow coalition of nationalist and centre-left parties.

Either would be a good outcome for Brown's legacy and his "sense of fairness". My guess is that there will be a more progressive LibDem-Tory pact: with some certainty of electoral reform and preservation of the safety net for lower and middle income people.


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This is most unexpected! Clegg should seize this opportunity, a Lib-Lab-SNP-Plaid coalition would be far more productive in the long term than the awkward maneuvering and compromises that a Lib-Tory pact would engender. this might even allow the progressive wing of Labour to take back the reigns of power from the Blairites who have been suffocating and destroying the party for so long. This is also (if genunine) a surprisingly noble gesture on the part of Brown. Maybe he has a chance to salvage his legacy after all.


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Mohomed F. Azeez, 9012, Patterson Avenue, 53, Richmond, VA 23229 1st president of the United Park President		Matthew Moore 4th president		Akmal Azeez 5th president		Pallince William Aaqib Azeez F. Born in May, 17, 2003. A famous president of the United Park., Studded mud, Bricks, Mecherments, Digging, Starting his study. The 1st president of the United Park a member of the United States Hall A mayor of the United Park & United Town Presidents of all the others Aaqib Azeez F. knew everything. Choose the Black House because Chess, good for your brain. He made allot of songs for everybody of the United Park to know. There were a guy named John Wikes Boot on a Com-Book and Aaqib Azeez F. on A Com-Book And on the important airport Dictionary. John Wikes Boot used to rip the Airport Dictionary. John Wikes Boot was trying to Rip Aaqib Azeez F. Page. Then Final y Matthew Moore, Then Matthew Moore Killed John Wikes Boot (59). Aaqib knew too. He thanked Matthew Moore. When Aaqib was walking throw the woods. Abraham Lincoln shot Aaqib 20 time then Emily Toler Died (30). Aaqib had 9300029339 powers. He didn`t argue about that

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The 2nd guard of the United Park Judge	                        Mr. Olive Predecessor              Pallince Williams

The 1st made statue Other vice President		Rondale Miller Successor 			           Yaqub Munkthar

2nd king of the United Park Other vice President                                                                        Miller Tompkins A. Born		May, 17 2003, Aaqibtown- Matthew-world Richmond California West Town Died             July, 18, 1826, 1 (98) Matthew world

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Thomas Jefferson (April 13, 1743 - July 4, 1826) was the third President of the United States, and author of the Declaration of Independence.

Early life
Jefferson was born in Shadwell, Virginia. His parents were farmers. Jefferson was very smart and studied many things at school and college. He designed his own home, called Monticello. It was very advanced for that period of time.

Jefferson married Martha Wayles Skelton in 1772.

Political life
Jefferson wanted the Thirteen Colonies to be independent of Great Britain. He was a leader of those who wanted the same thing. He was a member of the Second Continental Congress. He was chosen to be on the committee that wrote the Declaration of Independence and was its main writer.

Jefferson served as a legislator in Virginia and as Governor of Virginia.

Jefferson was minister to France from 1785-1789.

Jefferson was selected by George Washington as the first Secretary of State. Jefferson thought that the federal government should be small. He had the opposite view of Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton. He led the party that opposed Hamilton and the Federalist Party. This party was called the Anti-Federalist Party and would become the Democratic-Republican Party.

Jefferson ran for president against John Adams. He got the second highest number of votes and as was the law at the time, became vice-president.

Presidency
Jefferson ran again as the Democratic-Republican candidate in 1800 and gained a narrow victory over Aaron Burr. He was reelected in 1804. Jefferson made the Louisiana Purchase which doubled the size of the United States. Jefferson sent the Lewis and Clark Expedition to explore the land gained by the Louisiana Purchase.

Jefferson had to deal with the threat of war during his second term. Great Britain and France were at war for almost all of Jefferson's time as president. Each side did things that could have made the United States enter the war. Jefferson worked to keep the United States out of the war and neutral.

Jefferson passed the Embargo Act Of 1807 which made it illegal for the United States to trade with other countries so it could remain neutral. It caused the economy to be bad. Even though the Embargo Act damaged his reputation, he is still remembered for his accomplishments.

Later years
Jefferson started the University of Virginia.

The British burned Washington D.C. or the capital building as it was known, during the War of 1812. When they did, many books in the Library of Congress were burned. Jefferson sold his own personal library to replace the lost books.

Jefferson died on July 4, 1826, on the 50th anniversary of the ratification of the Declaration of Independence, the same day as John Adams. He is considered one of the greatest United States Presidents.

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May 11, 2010Several attacks in three different parts of Iraq yesterday killed over 100 people and injured almost 350 more, making Monday the deadliest day in the country this year.

Early on Monday morning, attacks with automatic weapons against six army and police checkpoints in the city of Baghdad killed seven police officers, with three other bombings in the city killing another two policemen. An official from Iraq's interior ministry said that the attacks in Baghdad began at around 0630 local time (0330 ), not ending until around 0800 local time (0500 UTC). The official also said that most of those wounded were security personnel.

At around 1330 local time (1030 UTC), three car bombs exploded in the city of outside a textiles factory; the bombings came as workers were leaving the factory, which increased the death toll. An hour later, with emergency responders on the scene, a fourth car bomb exploded. In total, 50 people were killed in the four explosions. A factory worker said that "[w]hen I heard the explosions, I rushed outside and saw the massive damage--there were bodies everywhere, people were crying and screaming."

In the southern city of, three separate car bombs in two locations occurred between 1800 and 1900 local time (1500 to 1600 UTC). The attacks were at two markets in central Basra, and killed a total of around 20 people.

Another car bombing in the city of, around 40 miles southeast of Baghdad, killed 11 people and wounded 70 more. According to a police official in the city, there were two bombings, both near the city's mosque.

There were also four other scattered attacks around the country in, west of Baghdad, , in the north of Iraq, , south of Baghdad, and outside of , north of Baghdad. In total, these attacks killed twelve more people.

According to a government spokesman in Baghdad, more than 20 total attacks occurred in the country, and were targeted at both the military and civilians. The attacks are also seen as emphasizing the ability of insurgent groups in Iraq to continue to be able to attack on a large scale, despite government efforts to increase security in the country, as well as the killings and arrests of numerous extremist leaders in recent months.

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So, I am still unclear about the ramifications of Brown clever "step-down acquiescence??" To what ends does Brown find himself motivated, the legacy of his historical image OR some smart political outcome? Can you speculate for me?


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I imagine it might be for all of those reasons. In any case it's a positive development for everyone, regardless of their political orientations.


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There is a dynamic ripple effect in the domestic politics, in the collapse of house of lords commonlaw beyond being an economic landlords club that has chosen just that as the basis for it's political indigestion of how to join the european union of economic western assassins without it's most amiable tie through the already established Labour/Socialist International. The scottish land class has taken the left leaning whig position as to the commons control of torries due to their limited peer persuastion in the house of lords( As economic swingers they fall outside of the loop for GNP to an alien position for allied archaic nationalism within set international boundries)(A limp handshake to a formal bow) a balance of papers worth piss besause they're not written in blood(royal) and labours extended channeling of energy and resources into the european common market where all pseudo nationalism of either the Liberals or the Scotch National Party has more say in a new european parliment where they can more directly bring their products to market while hurdling the pound's exchange for the solidity of it's return. Leaving the economy fenced in along already established markets of trade allow these interests to expand their soveriegn position ahead of the dissolution of their current nationalism which in a conservative role sits more like texas hold'em in a room full of war hawks. The scotts and the irish are enough together to give the necessary edge against tories infrastructural gutting of the past decade of progress even if they did miss their opportunity to bring justice to the divine right of kings by skipping the elected peers position for one of Constabulary and Magistrates that would have secured a stronger system of checks and balances based upon feasability of the laws execution and ideological merit by those who have to see fit in the guilt or innocennce of a nation by the the soundnss of their common law. To resurect this problem with answer in hand the queen need only demand greater responsibility of the lords of the manor by drawing the candalabras focus of light upon those who sit at the breaking edge of representative responsibility for sherrifs and appealate court justices, with a refresher course in fuedal law and the right of appeal. The respect of protection for the feifdom in the exchequer(cabinetry), sherrif(Military), magistrate(University), commons(Labour), & Queen (Divine Right). No this is not spelled or punctuated propperly it's spirited communication for contemporary problems within the common wealth.


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Wikinews:Briefs/May 10, 2010

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Today on Wikinews : UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown steps down, a coal mine explosion in Russia kills 11 workers, Dallas Braden pitches a perfect game on Mother's Day and on this day in history, the US Supreme Court decides if the tomato is a fruit or a vegetable.

Today is Monday, May 10th, 2010. I'm Dan Harlow and this is Wikinews.

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In our lead story today,

UK elections: Gordon Brown offers resignation to secure Labour-Liberal coalition (0:33)
Following the return of a hung parliament in the United Kingdon's general election on Thursday, Gordon Brown has announced his resignation as Labour Party leader and Prime Minister.

Gordon Brown made his statement at 5.00 pm local time in front of 10 Downing Street, London, following a meeting he had yesterday with Nick Clegg, the leader of the Liberal Democrat Party.

He stated that a strong and stable "progressive alliance" of the Labour and Liberal parties would be in the best interest of the country and made his resignation as a means to forward this, saying that he would set in motion the process needed for a new leader of the Labour Party to be selected and that a new leader will be in place in the autumn by the time of the next Labour Party Conference.

However, unlike a Conservative-Liberal alliance, a Labour-Liberal one would not command a majority in Parliament. For the "progressive alliance" to have its majority, it would therefore need to bring in MPs from the smaller parties.

Meanwhile, as the ground shook under the feet of UK politics,

7.2 magnitude earthquake hits Indonesia (1:32)
a large, 7.2 magnitude earthquake struck near Sumatra, Indonesia on Sunday.

The epicentre was 390 miles west of Malaysia's capital Kuala Lumpur, at a depth of 28 miles according to the USGS. The tremors started at about 13.00 local time and a tsunami alert was made by the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, but rescinded about an hour and a half later.

The Associated Press news agency quotes local media as saying some power lines were knocked down and some buildings damaged.

The epicentre of the earthquake was near that of 2004's magnitude 9.2 earthquake, which generated a large tsunami and killed an estimated 170,000 people. Indonesia sits atop very geologically active part of the world known as the Ring of Fire, and experiences earthquakes frequently.

Violence in India broke out again as

Landmine blast in Chattisgarh, India kills eight (2:32)
suspected Maoist guerrillas killed eight Central Reserve Police Force soldiers in India yesterday, blowing up a police patrol in the Bijapur district of the state. It was the first major attack by Maoists in the area since 76 people were killed in an ambush incident at Dantewada.

According to the Director General of Police, the extremists detonated an improvised explosive device near Pedakodepal village, located on National Highway 16 in Bijapur, then opened fire at a security team. The driver of the vehicle was killed in the incident and one soldier was severely wounded and another missing.

The injured are being treated in a Jagdalpur hospital.

As Russia was gearing up for Victory Day celebrations,

Multiple explosions in Russian coal mine, eleven dead (3:20)
Reports suggest methane gas was to blame for two explosions in a Russian coal mine which are thought to have left up to twelve miners dead and eighty others unaccounted for. Local officials say at least 41 miners have been injured.

Over three hundred miners were underground when the first explosion occurred just prior to midnight on Saturday night but most of them were brought safely to the surface. However, officials report that eleven miners died in the first explosion.

Around three hours later a second explosion occurred and authorities on the surface lost contact with a rescue team below. Following the second explosion, an emergency services ministry spokeswoman told the media that rescue operations had been suspended indefinitely.

Aman Tuleyev, the governor of Siberia's western Kemerovo region, has taken charge of the rescue operation. Tuleyev said the second blast had caused more injuries and destroyed the main air shaft. He also stated that there was a risk of more explosions.

The mine, owned by Russian company Raspadskaya, is the largest underground coal mine in Russia. A worker was killed after part of the mine collapsed in January 2010. The explosions come after calls for coal mines in Russia to improve their poor safety records.

Despite the trajedy,

Russia celebrates Victory Day (4:47)
Russia yesterday celebrated Victory Day, to commemorate the 65th anniversary since Nazi Germany surrendered, thus ending the Second World War in Europe.

In a first for the annual celebrations, soldiers from other countries joined in the parade, including those from former Soviet allies in the war: the United States, the United Kingdom, France, and Poland.

Media reports describe the events as being among the most elaborate since the Soviet Union fell apart two decades ago. Anti-aircraft rockets, mobile howitzers, and missiles rolled through Red Square, and 150 airplanes and helicopters performed a flyover shortly thereafter.

Finally, in sports,

Australian rules football: Traralgon remain only undefeated team after five rounds of 2010 Gippland Football League season (5:29)
Traralgon remain the only undefeated team after five rounds of the 2010 Gippsland Football League season after they defeated Warragul by seventy points and Sale defeated Maffra by one point. Warragul remain the only team without a win.

Warragul lead Traralgon early in the third quarter but were quickly over taken and convincingly beaten.

To that point in the game, the defence of both sides dominated not allowing many scoring opportunities. From the fifth minute of the third quarter, the game belonged to Traralgon.

Tim Aitkin kicked six of his nine goals in the last quarter to help Traralgon stamp their authority on the game.

Sale upset ladder leaders Maffra at home. One could have argued that Maffra's inaccurate kicking in the second half cost it the win.

To the end of the third, Maffra lead but could not close out the match. Sale won the match with a goal from a free kick after the full time siren.

And, in Oakland, California,

Oakland A's pitcher Dallas Braden throws perfect game (6:29)
Dallas Braden, a left-handed pitcher for Major League Baseball's Oakland Athletics, became one of only nineteen players in the history of the league to pitch a perfect game, in a 4-0 win against the Tampa Bay Rays. Braden, aged 26, who retired all 27 batters consecutively on 109 pitches, also earned his first career complete game. In the process of throwing the perfect game, Braden also struck out six Tampa Bay hitters.

The perfect game was the second pitched in the Athletics' franchise history, the other being thrown by Hall of Fame pitcher Catfish Hunter on May 8, 1968 against the Minnesota Twins. Braden, at 26, also became the youngest pitcher to throw a complete game since Anaheim Angels pitcher Mike Witt did so at age 24 in 1984.

Due to the Mother's Day holiday occurring across the United States, attendance at the Oakland Coliseum was only 12,228 fans, but Braden's grandmother was in attendance. Braden, along with every other Major League Baseball player, donned pink equipment for awareness of breast cancer, which has become a tradition for baseball players on Mother's Day. Braden's own mother died of skin cancer when he was a senior in high school

Braden recently drew controversy in the league after publicly criticizing New York Yankees all-star third baseman Alex Rodriguez for crossing the pitcher's mound after a foul ball, which Braden claimed to be an "unwritten rule" in baseball. When asked about the no hitter, Rodriguez simply responded, "Good for him, he threw a perfect game. And even better, he beat the Rays". The Rays lead the American League East division, the same division that Yankees play in.

On this day in history (8:18)
In 1893, The Supreme Court of the United States rules in Nix v. Hedden that a tomato is a vegetable, not a fruit under the Tariff Act of 1883.

The Tariff Act required a tax to be paid on imported vegetables, but not fruit and the case was an attempt by the Nix family to recover back duties paid under protest to Edward L. Hedden, the Collector of the Port of New York.

Botanically, a tomato is a fruit, however, the court unanimously ruled in favor of the defendant stating that the Tariff Act used the ordinary meaning of the words "fruit" and "vegetable" – where a tomato is classified as a vegetable – not the technical botanical meaning.

Nix has been cited in three Supreme Court decisions as a precedent for court interpretation of common meanings, especially dictionary definitions, and in 2005, supporters in the New Jersey legislature cited Nix as a basis for a bill designating the tomato as the official state vegetable.

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If not for government assistance and social programs, the depression (yes depression) would be even worse. Lets pretend that the day of reckoning arrives where no matter what the government does, whether it spends or lower interest rates, the result will be the same, nothing. This day is fast approaching when the governments enter a period of hyperinflation like Zimbabwe just a few years ago and the governments will default on debt. The only reason this hasn't happened yet? Because no one can accept the fact that it will and like the giant housing bubble, people will keep investing in AAA government bonds when the truth is that they are a bigger bubble than the housing bubble ever was. I write this because of the pain in our markets that is glossed over and the fact that the government had the gall to pass a health reform bill in the face of this depression which it simply cannot be afford. Our health insurance brokerage has reached the point where people can no longer afford policies and instead call for the number for Medicaid. It is the worlds largest inside joke that only the well informed know.


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