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Gunmen abduct 3 ICRC representatives in the Philippines

January 18, 2009

On Thursday, the reported that three representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) were abducted in.

Army officers have identified the victims as Swiss Andreas Notter, age 38, Italian Eugenio Vagni, age 62, from and Filipino Mary Jean Lacaba, age 37, a Davao-based ICRC engineer.

The said Saturday that the three hostages were still alive. "We have received reliable information that our abducted colleagues are alive," said Anna Nelson, a spokeswoman for the Manila ICRC office. The MILF also confirmed that the 3 hostages are still alive.

chief negotiator Mohagher Iqbal on Saturday said it was coordinating in the rescue of the ICRC hostages. "The latest information we received is that the kidnappers are transferring their captives by land and sea from one island to another," said Iqbal, adding its forces will cooperate in the hot-pursuit of the group of Albader Parad.

The three workers first made communication with the ICRC on Friday and said they were all unharmed. They were able to call and spoke with their superiors in. "We are, of course, relieved to have heard their voices and to know that they are alive," said Jean-Daniel Tauxe, head of the ICRC delegation in Manila. "We are not in a position to comment further, since our main priority is ensuring that nothing jeopardizes their safety, but it goes without saying that their families, as well as their colleagues, are hoping for their safe and swift return," he added.

Two calls were made, one on Friday night and the other early Saturday morning, said ICRC spokesperson Anna Nelson and Senator Gordon. Rebel leader 'Parad is planning to demand 5 million dollars while Dr. Abu is reportedly planning a still unknown political demand' for the safe release of the ICRC team, Monsters and Critics said Sunday based on military reports.

The on Friday has accused the terrorist  faction as responsible for the forcible abduction. The militants have fled with the ICRC victims to town, Defense Secretary  said.

According to Chief Superintendent Bensali Jabarani, police chief, there were reports of sightings of the captives late Friday in a wooded area of  in the interior of Jolo. "We got information from some residents fleeing the area," said Jabarani, adding a group of about 30 gunmen were guarding the three hostages. Of the three, the two foreign hostages were spotted by villagers in  near Indanan late Friday.

The military authorities confirmed Sunday the abductors were under notorious rebel commander Albader Parad and Akmad Jumdail alias Dr. Abu Pula of the Islamist Abu Sayyaf group. Sulu police chief Senior Supt. Julasirim Kasim said Parad and another Abu Sayyaf leader, Sulaiman Patah both participated in the kidnapping and were part of the armed group that seized the ICRC representatives Thursday. Parad’s group was also blamed for the kidnapping last June of ABS-CBN news anchor and two other staff of the network.

The ICRC has temporarily stopped operations in southern Philippines because of the Patikul abduction. "We are temporarily halting operations in the area so we can revisit and assess our security arrangements. Our main concern is the safety of our colleagues," said Roland Bigler, ICRC's spokesman in the Philippines.

According to Sen., chairman, the ICRC workers from Italy, Switzerland and the Philippines were driving to  after visiting a provincial jail when at least eight motorcycle-riding armed men intercepted them. They were seized as they emerged from the Area Coordinating Center (ACC), where they interviewed officials of the Sulu Provincial Jail. Six young boys are among a dozen gunmen who kidnapped the workers, an ICRC staff member said Friday.

"I am appealing to the Abu Sayyaf to free those people, because they are neutral in any conflict," Mr Gordon said. "Common Article 3 of the Geneva Convention prohibits the abduction or kidnapping of persons taking no active part in hostilities, such as the ICRC which is an impartial humanitarian body that offers services to both parties in conflicts," Gordon explained.

The kidnappers, however, released Dr. Richie Sorilla, ICRC medical field officer; Ramon Catacutan, senior field officer; and Mohamad Shihata Jikiri, field officer. Their ICRC vehicle was later recovered in the village of Banganan, Patikul town by members of Task Force Comet, headed by Maj. Gen. Juancho Sabban. The kidnappers were on their way to Barangay Bud Pula in Patikul town, the military said.

Gov. Sakur Tan said the three workers arrived in Jolo on Wednesday for “humanitarian activities,” and to conduct a probe into the jailbreak wherein 12 local prisoners escaped and one was killed. "They had been carrying out a water and sanitation project to improve the condition of detainees," ICRC spokesman Reynaldo Guioguio explained.

Philippine President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo has directed the Armed Forces of the Philippines and Philippine National Police (PNP) to rescue the three victims and conduct an "all-out pursuit" of the militants. “The security forces, both AFP and PNP are in hot-pursuit operations to track down the criminal elements and ensure the safe return of the captives. The elite Task Force Comet under Maj. Gen. Juancho Sabban has been tasked to undertake appropriate action on the ground,” said Press Secretary Jesus Dureza. According to a U.S. military official, American soldiers were also providing noncombat "assistance and advice" to the elite Philippine military group on rescue operations.

The Philippine troops have fanned out on a southern island to search for the gunmen. They were scouring Friday the jungles of and Patikul jungles in Sulu. The military is also now looking for a former Sulu Provincial Jail warden, who may have involvement in the kidnapping and the recent jailbreak.

"We have established the identity of one of the kidnappers. He is Raden Abu, nephew of Parad, a dismissed guard of the Patikul jail. He was present, looking around when the kidnapping happened," said Lt. Gen. Nelson Allaga, Western MIndanao Command chief and Sulu police chief Senior Supt. Julasirim Kasim Friday.

has activated Thursday the Ministry's crisis unit and the Italian Embassy in the Philippines to monitor developments in the Sulu abduction of Italian citizen Eugenio Vagni. "The Crisis Unit is already in contact with Mr Vagni's family and is following the situation in close coordination with the Embassy in Manila, the Philippine authorities and the Italian Red Cross," said the Ministry. The ICRC chapter in Geneva, Switzerland has also mobilized its “cellule de crise" to follow up on the abduction incident, the Italian Embassy announced.

The is one of several militant   groups based in and around the southern islands of Philippines, in  (Jolo, Basilan, and Mindanao) where for almost 30 years various Muslim groups have been engaged in an insurgency for a state, independent of the predominantly Catholic Philippines. The group, which emerged in the early 1990s, is notorious for its kidnappings. The Group's 340 members remain active in Sulu and Basilan provinces.

Meanwhile,  has on Thursday night condemned the kidnapping of the three ICRC representatives. "I’m horrified. These are people who, throughout the country, do a wonderful work. And I think it’s appalling that they would be falling into any kind of harm’s way," she said.

The Philippine Council for Islam and Democracy (PCID) officer Amina Rasul on Friday also condemned the Sulu abduction. She called on the (MNLF), the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), and civil society groups for assistance in the rescue of the victims. "The full force of ARMM and the Sulu provincial government should be brought to bear on this problem of lawlessness," Rasul said. chairperson Leila De Lima asked the militant group to release and permit the 3 workers to continue their humanitarian work in Sulu and Jolo island.


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I CREATED this internationally watched abduction of Red Cross workers in Philippines. Please help in checking and reviewing this in COLLABORATION for publication. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 11:29, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I removed a lot of "extra" detail that took away from the story and made the article look more like a meshing of WP articles. It looks pretty good though, I'd say one more editor's go-over should result in publication :) Sherurcij 16:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Good it is delayed, since, now the $ 5 million dollars ransom is here
What is good in difficult articles, is that - there are tons of forthcoming developments. This is a kidnap case. And why are Philippine news reports afraid to report ransom. It is sad that I have just The Earth Times and a duplicate I did not include Monster Critics.com. 2 foreign workers worth $ 5 million? Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 08:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Useful Website?
There is this news website that posts a bunch of articles on this thing daily: http://www.inquirer.net/specialfeatures/redcrossabduction/index.php Hope this helps on updating this article. ^_^ And I think it's stupid that this has been going on for TWO MONTHS!!! --69.233.6.141 06:24, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

My bad, it's already being used. Oops... --69.233.6.141 06:25, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

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Main UN compound in Gaza shelled with 'white phosphorus'

January 15, 2009 A spokesman says that the Gaza headquarters of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) has been hit by shells containing white phosphorus.

Ban Ki-moon, the United Nations (UN) Secretary-General, expressed "strong protest and outrage" to the Israeli Government over the attack. "The number of casualties has reached an unbearable point," said Ban.

Ehud Olmert responded by saying that there were Palestinian fighters in the compound, launching mortars at Israeli troops.

"We do not want such incidents to take place and I am sorry for it but I don’t know if you know, but Hamas fired from the UNRWA site. This is a sad incident and I apologise for it," Olmert said.

A previous accusation was made against the UN after another UN building housing refugees was hit by Israeli tank shells a week ago. According to UNRWA official Christopher Gunness, the accusation was later retracted by the Israeli government.

Ehud Barak, the Israeli Defence Minister, said it was "a grave mistake".

Along with UNRWA headquarters, a Palestinian hospital was set ablaze, and a media headquarters housing the Reuters news agency and other Palestinian reporters was also hit wounding two cameramen. Around 500 people were sheltering in the Al-Quds hospital when it was bombed by Israel and hospital officials say they were hit with white phosphorus, a substance which sparks fires which cannot be put out by water and which causes serious burns and respiratory problems to anyone who comes in contact with it.

Adnan Abu Hasna, a spokesman for UNRWA, said fires were still raging hours after the attack and "tens of millions of dollars worth of aid" had been destroyed.

Christopher Gunness issued a statement on the attacks saying, "There have been three hits on the UNRWA headquarters, the UNRWA compound in Gaza, including, I’m told by [UNRWA head] John Ging, white phosphorus. Three of our staff members have been injured. The workshop in our compound is in flames, and nearby are loaded fuel tankers. So the situation is extremely dangerous and extremely serious. We have been on the phone to the Israeli authorities, asking them to call off their fire from around the compound of a neutral international organization. We have not had the answer we want." UNRWA reports that the fire at the compound will destroy tons of medical and food aid.

United Nations Children's Fund joined the Red Cross in speaking out against the violence today, saying the deaths of children in Gaza were unacceptable.


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Must go, I leave this article in your hands. Unbelivable development.

How do I change the title?
There's a typo in the title, how can it be changed? Soapy (talk) 18:44, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Click the rename tab at the top (its about the 6th one along) --InfantGorilla (talk) 22:05, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Peer review
I have checked this for copyright, newsworthiness and sourced facts.

I have corrected a couple of typos, removed the 'breaking' banner and I will put the UN statement in the headline in single quotes, which allows me to pass it for style.

'''That leave just NPOV. It looks ok to me but I would like a second opinion.'''

I haven't searched for updates, but perhaps someone can post a new story to say if and when the fire was extinguished.

By the way, it needs more categories and wikilinks.

--InfantGorilla (talk) 22:26, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

(My review applies to version 752718. And it was unbidden since the article is still tagged  .) --InfantGorilla (talk) 22:30, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Headline
Can the unnecessary quotes be removed from the title? 72.154.55.98 23:47, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Perhaps better to let readers make their own judgments. The news outlets we used as sources yesterday put their headline in the same terms, as it was not possible (beyond the UNRWA statement) to confirm the type of incendiary weapon.  If (for example) an analyst from Jane's had looked at a photo and said "definitely white phosphorus", then I would advocate a more confident headline.  --InfantGorilla (talk) 08:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


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US Airways jet makes emergency landing in river by New York City

January 15, 2009 A US Airways Airbus A320, Flight 1549, has made an emergency landing in the Hudson River after a failed attempt to take off near Manhattan. There were 148 passengers and five crew on the flight to Charlotte from LaGuardia Airport. The plane took off at 3:26 PM EST (UTC-5) and went down minutes later. All aboard survived the landing.

The United States Coast Guard has reported that they have sent units to the scene of the incident, and that a nearby ferry was giving life jackets to survivors. According to witnesses, the plane landed in the river, making a large splash in the water, at a somewhat gradual angle.

"This looked like a controlled descent," said Bob Read, who witnessed the incident from his office.

A source told The Wall Street Journal that the plane initially was maneuvering to make an emergency landing at nearby Teterboro Airport in New Jersey, but lost too much altitude and had to ditch in the river.

Unconfirmed reports cite the pilot as saying that the plane encountered a flock of geese and that some of them went into both of the jet's engines, leading to a loss of powered flight. Passengers told the press that they heard a loud bang shortly after takeoff.

A Federal Aviation Administration official said that the plane was airborne for only three minutes. For these rare water landings, pilots are trained to bring the plane down as they would on land, but with the landing gear still retracted.


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Per reports on foxnews.com and cnbc.com 63.96.92.3 20:51, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Followup?
The NTSB are holding a Media brief at 16:00 at the Embassy Suites, 102 North End Avenue if someone can get there...


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Burris sworn in as US Senator for Illinois

January 16, 2009

American politician Roland Burris of the United States Democratic Party was sworn in Thursday as US president-elect Barack Obama's replacement in the United States Senate.

Burris was initially not admitted into the Senate, even though Governor of Illinois Rod Blagojevich appointed him to the position, due to allegations that the governor tried to sell the seat. Blagojevich was arrested and has been impeached for the alleged crime. Burris was denied his position on January 6 by other Democratic members of the Congress because his appointment papers were not signed by Jesse White, the Illinois Secretary of State, who had refused to sign his name due to the charges faced by Blagojevich.

Burris was officially sworn in by United States Vice President Dick Cheney with no objections from other members of the Congress. Harry Reid, the senior Democratic senator from Nevada and majority leader, who had led the opposition to Burris being appointed, welcomed him into the Senate.

"On behalf of all senators, Democrats and Republicans, we welcome you as a colleague and a friend," Reid said.

"No one's ever had anything against Sen. Burris. Like any other senator, he'll have to learn the ropes and not get lost getting to committee hearings, like I have. I think he'll come in with people open to meeting with him and getting to know him. I think it will be just fine," said Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota on the matter. Most other comments by senators stated that they were not against Burris as a person, but were against his appointment by Rod Blagojevich.

With the appointment, Burris becomes the only African-American member of the United States Senate. This makes the count of Democrats to Republicans in the Senate 58 Democrats and 41 Republicans, with the final seat waiting on a vote recount ordered by Norm Coleman in his loss to Al Franken of Minnesota.


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First successful ditching?
Is this the first ever non-fatal ditching of a civil aircraft?

 * No but it is rare see: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123205611103787217.html?mod=googlenews_wsj --SVTCobra 22:26, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

 * It says "There have been few, *if any*, successful attempts during the jet age"....so doesn't really answer the question! Morrid1 (talk) 22:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

 * There has only been one other - the Tupolev 124 ditching in Neva River. There was also a small turboprop airliner in waaaay back in 1956; Pan Am Flight 943. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:50, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Cheers to the pilot and crew. well done, guys. - Imind (talk) 03:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

A DC3 ditched in Botany Bay, just after takeoff from Sydney Airport on 24 April 1994. Aircraft was above MTOW and suffered engine failure after takeoff. All 25 on board evacuated. 3 injuries related to incomplete use of crew seatbelts. Investigation report online here

Another interesting example I came accross was Japan Airlines Flight 2. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 10:45, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Did the plane eventually sink?
Just curious...

 * I saw (on the TV news) that it was gradually getting deeper in the water - it seemed almost sunk about 2 hours after the landing. --InfantGorilla (talk)

 * They dragged it to the shore. It is still floating. --Ysangkok (talk) 23:13, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * There is a great image that shows people standing on the edge of the wing, about six inches under the water. They are trying to retrieve the plane. However, the engines are now buried in silt which obscures them; USCG is using sonar to locate them and the shredded-up geese. Deathgleaner (talk) 23:13, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Birds had been knocked out bullshit giant steel bird.
That's a "suicide bombing". Now all American that be a victim of that "jihad" know the effect to be a soldier of George H. "Bullshit" country.
 * Didn't take your meds today? --99.247.16.231 03:56, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

"All aboard survived the landing."
Nice to know that can happen. Evidently the pilot(s)/crew were WELL qualified at their profession. 76.117.247.55 11:32, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Such amazing job from the pilot, some good news in what is a dark and dismal year with the credit crunch and high street shops closing down. A sense of hope.

We cannot say "the pilot was well qualified" without first knowing what procedure he was going to perform AND the air traffic contol records of N90. AND we need to know if something was wrong with the aircraft or not.

 * True, but it's still an impressive feat. Fephisto (talk) 18:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * ''we need to know if something was wrong with the aircraft or not
 * A passenger told the press that an engine was on fire. Details should come out in the NTSB investigation. --InfantGorilla (talk) 09:41, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Whilst it may have been spewing flame - damaged jet engines often do - I would be surprised if the engine itself was actually on fire. It is possible though if, say, a fuel line had ruptured. We will indeed have to wait for the NTSB to piece it all together (in fact, pulling the engines - which seperated from the airframe - out the Hudson would be a good start). Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 10:53, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

 * I didn't know that. Thanks. --InfantGorilla (talk) 10:56, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, Canadian goose char-grilled with jet fuel then soaked in water for several days is not tasty. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:37, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

As far as I know
This version of the story came from someone I know, who got it from CNN:

A plane takes off from an airport in New York. Three minutes later it encounters a flock of geese. Several geese get shredded up in the engines. First, one engine stalls and then the other. The pilot had lots of experience. He was able to maneuver the plane to safety by pulling the plane up as it went down, which resulted in the plane going up and down in this continuous cycle. Eventually, the plane and all 155 passengers, including 150 passengers, 3 flight attendants, and the pilot & copilot splash down near the edge of the Hudson river next to many boats. They all survived, aside from a few broken bones and other injuries. The boats that can do it raced to the help.

Deathgleaner (talk) 23:11, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

good info
This a great news with lots of details


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Norm Coleman: African-American?
The article's final paragraph includes the sentence "With the appointment, Burris becomes the only African-American member of the United States Senate, waiting on a vote recount ordered by Norm Coleman in his loss to Al Franken of Minnesota." Now, I looked up Norm Coleman, I could be wrong, but he doesn't look African-American and is actually listed as a Jew (whether it's just religious, I don't know). Yet that sentence... Unless Coleman is an African-American, it makes no sense. It might as well say "With the appointment, Burris becomes the only African-American member of the United States Senate, waiting on a vote recount ordered by Norm Coleman in his loss to Al Franken of Minnesota, should Coleman win, Burris will still be the only African-American Senator, as Coleman is not." By all means, correct me if I'm wrong on this one, Coleman just does not appear to be African-American. --99.224.245.159 22:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I have got to assume that is what the original contributor intended. It was reworded today (http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Burris_sworn_in_as_US_Senator_for_Illinois&diff=754488&oldid=753210 diff).  I sighted the change, as it seems to be what WN:ARCHIVE calls a "non-content issue".  --InfantGorilla (talk) 13:49, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


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US Airways jet makes emergency landing in river by New York City
What is the source for the information you are adding to this article? --SVTCobra 01:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

 * I don't think the information is correct. See http://www.eads.com/1024/en/eads_innovation/Innovation_Articles/aviation/inflight_power_consumption.html "The control inputs translated by the computer were sent to electronically actuated servo-valves which passed the hydraulic pressure on to actuators, which in turn moved the control elements of the aircraft." --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:51, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

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Total trade blockade of Israel and Palestine now. The world will not look passively at the atrocities committed by these savage religious fanatic nations any longer. The aggression stops now. --77.75.161.35 01:57, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

 * A blockade will just intensify things. That is what caused these recent problems. The proper response is to enforce the two state solution and make two independent nations one of Israel and one of Palestine so that neither has excessive control of the other, and each negotiate independent relations with their neighbors, backed up by U.N. peacekeepers. 72.154.55.98 02:51, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Godless government in Holy Land of Jewish and Christian.
Do all Israeli knows that their shit government's "men" aren't human? It think they don't know. All Israeli government's men have bullshit mouth. Their government aren't Jewish, nor Christian but godless man swear they have religion. Never better that most dammit monkey. I think not only Bush must get shoes hurled to his face, but also Tzipi Livni, Ehud Barak, and also Ehud Olmert.

Israel is defending itself
Israel is at war, being attacked by terrorists. They are in the right. Dont forget Hamas fires off daily rockets into Israel.
 * One might ask if nazist was under terroristattack from the jewish resistense in the ghetto of warsawa and in right to defend themself? No, I wouldnt say that. international (talk) 17:08, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * To be fair, the anti-Nazi Jewish resistant members didn't go around killing German citizens or firing rockets at them. --99.247.16.231 03:53, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * To be extra fair, The anti-Arab Jewish forces are (RIGHTNOW!) flying in the skys of Gaza city destroying houses killing citizens (even, kids, women, oldmen) and they are so pleased knowing why? because they didn't stop that Not mentioning they used mirco nuclear bomb, at the 1st time I thought that Israel deserves that land, now I can tell you that zionist is terror.
 * Also the Jewish resistance in the ghetto did not have the capabilities to attack the German civilians, circumstances have changed now and poor and oppressed people are now capable of making homemade rockets. 35 years ago when this occupation began Palestinian resistance was limited to the resistance of the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto, all they could do was maybe throw a molotov cocktail or shoot an israeli soldier if they were lucky...so I think that yes it is fair to compare the occupied territories to the Warsaw ghetto, although obviously not to the much worse inhuman crime of the concentration camps. Soapy (talk) 17:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Geneva convention violation?
Is it just me, or was this a violation of the Geneva convention?

Specifically CCW Protocol III, Article 2, paragraph 2:

"It is prohibited in all circumstances to make any military objective located within a concentration of civilians the object of attack by air-delivered incendiary weapons."

Since the hq of the UNWRA and a (civilian) hospital each constitute a 'concentration of civilians', even if they did attack it because Hamas soldiers were using it as an artillery position, it was a violation to use incendiaries.

Or did I miss something (also, how the feck do you figure burning a hospital with a chemical agent as 'defending oneself' 66.240.8.178? Maybe you'd like to claim some 5 year old Palestinian girl with the measles was gonna cough on IDF personnel as some form of homebrew biological warfare?) Robrecht (talk) 19:04, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Nuclear attacks
The Arabic version of Aljazeera have mentioned that Israel used micro nuclear bombs too, doctors said that these bombs does do 5 cm cut (on the human body) when they hit the area, but after a while they return much bigger and causes radial effects


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Tighten 'noose' so Osama can't operate: Obama

January 16, 2009

United States President-elect Barack Obama says that it is no longer essential to remove Osama bin Laden from the battle field.

"My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him," said Mr Obama yesterday. "But if we have so tightened the noose that he's in a cave somewhere and can't even communicate with his operatives, then we will meet our goal of protecting America."

Citing a CBS interview, The Australian says that the stance "also appear[s] to contradict Mr Obama's statements during the election campaign." The newspaper noted that at the October 7 presidential debate, Mr Obama stated, "We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaeda. That has to be our biggest national security priority." But yesterday he softened that stance.

"We have to so weaken [bin Laden's] infrastructure that, whether he is technically alive or not, he is so pinned down that he cannot function and I'm confident that we can keep them on the run and ensure that they cannot train terrorists to attack our homeland."

In a recent audio tape attributed to bin Laden, the al-Qaeda leader promised the president-elect that al-Qaeda would open new fronts against the USA. "The worst heritage is when a man inherits a long guerrilla warfare with a persevering, patient enemy - a war that is funded by usury. If he [Obama] withdraws from the war, that would be a military defeat, and if he goes on with it, he'll drown in economic crisis," he said.

Current Vice President Dick Cheney has been quoted as saying he wants to capture bin Laden before leaving office. "We've got a few days left yet," he said. He also cited the containment of al-Qa'ida as a major achievement for the Bush administration. "Osama bin Laden is - wherever he is - he's in a deep hole. He does not have much impact on the organization as best we can tell. The important thing was to go after the organization, after al-Qaeda."


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I'll never support Jesse White for office again. He had no business deciding he was the judge and jury and found Blago guilty and decided he wasn't the legal governor. Dick Durbin also should have kept his mouth shut. A legal appointment by the seated governor did not need his half-baked opinion that Quinn would make this appointment after Blago was removed from office. Burris was already the appointed Senator and there was no vacancy for Quinn to fill. Reid was out of line saying he wouldn't seat Burris. Who made him the authority that could overrule both the IL and Fed Constitutions? My Democratic party has suffered serious damage by the behavior of these politicians acting in front of the news media. They have lost my respect.


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Ha! Like they care about people getting hurt... —195.49.248.147 08:24, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Your assumption is that the people who run these companies are so coldhearted, so mean, so cruel, so sociopathic, that they have absolutely no regard for human life? Don't let your thinly veiled hatred of business in general blind you to the fact that these corporations are not monolithic organizations! They are made up of individual people, all of whom think the same thoughts, and act the same way as every other human on the planet. Gopher65talk 15:59, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for saying what I've wanted to say. Fephisto (talk) 18:22, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


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Copyright and Times reference
This sentence is a direct copy paraphrase of Baldwin's Times article:
 * ''He also cited the containment of al-Qa'ida as a major achievement of the past seven years.

There may be others, so please check carefully.

--InfantGorilla (talk) 08:59, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

 * I've changed that sentence. I also reverted the Times reference in the text. I've had a look at the article on the times website, and it's exactly the same as the one in The Australian. So I've revered it so it matches the sources section. --RockerballAustralia (talk)

09:49, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

 * I credited The Times in the sources section, as does The Australian, so it does match the sources section. If an AP writer says something, we don't credit it (in the body) to the New York Times that published the article, as far as I know, so I think mentioning The Times is proper, and I disagree with your reversion.
 * I had a couple of nits, but I think it is a great article. Thanks.
 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 12:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

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It seems he was told about who Bin Laden really is... They all change their minds once they know. It's a shame they didn't pass the same info to those french special soldiers that tried to kill him and are now dead. Who cares anyway? They're french...
 * Oh,ho,ho... Very nice comment. (sarcasm). --24.231.154.86 03:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Do you mean something like this? http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/sudan.html
 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:34, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

This is kind of a racist comment. --69.157.184.121 18:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

 * 69.157.184.121, I don't think you said anything racist. --SVTCobra 03:32, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Cheney is such a joker
Arguably the war on terror is more useful as a political tool for both parties if it keeps dragging out and Osama remains a permanent Emanuel Goldstein to inspire Minute Hate responses and distract people from domestic issues. Most leaders probably do really want to catch Osama but it only takes a couple "strategic thinkers" in the apparatus to forget to translate laptop contents and fail to fire predator missiles.


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Comments:Chemical firm LyondellBasell collapses

The company has not collapsed. The company has only filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection for it's U.S. companies and one non-U.S. company. During, and since the bankruptcy filing there have been contributions made by investors to keep LyondellBasell operating during the bankruptcy process. As of this posting LyondellBasell is very much still functioning as a company, and in fact, some locations have picked up more business since the start of 1Q 2009.

--98.201.35.40

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Strange
Strange... I won't pretend to know how that happened. Thanks for the fix. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:07, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

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Man arrested in Mississippi over Internet assassination threats against Barack Obama

January 17, 2009

The U.S. Secret Service had a Wisconsin man arrested in Brookhaven, Mississippi, by the local Lincoln County sheriff's department on Friday for threatening to assassinate President-elect Barack Obama during his inauguration on January 20.

Steven Joseph Christopher, age 42, has reportedly made the threats on January 11, 15, and 16 in a chat forum on the site www.alien-earth.org, a website about UFOs and aliens, the US Department of Justice said. He has created a new forum topic entitled, "ok we have 9 days until my Presidential Assasination[sic]." He referred to Obama as a 'sacrificial lamb.' "Yes, I have decided I will assassinate Barack Obama. It's really nothing personal about the man. He speaks well, has a loving although controlling wife and two cute daughters. But I know it's for the country's own good that I can do this. Barack Obama, I view more as a sacrificial lamb, but the sacrifice must take place," Christopher wrote on January 11.

Christopher previously posted possible threats against President George W. Bush, saying, "let's hope this time they don't hang up on, like last time when I threatened to kill gw and called them to tell." Christopher's online posts contained expletives and anti-Semitic views, according to an affidavit filed by Secret Service agent Kelly Adcox. The internet forum posts, however, stated he never owned nor fired a gun before, adding someone would have to deliver him one. Now he has alleged it was all a bluff to get publicity.

As it turns out this man calls himself "Stevie the Playboy", "SHR," "Trinity" and in some cases "god". Christopher also spent time on the internet, using at least three different usernames to post about 70 different YouTube videos. The Alien-Earth Web site administrator notified a special agent with the U.S. Secret Service of the posted web messages.

The agents traced the Internet protocol address corresponding to a home on California Road in Brookhaven. According to John Dowdy, Chief of Criminal Division for the Office of the U.S. Attorney, and Lincoln County Sheriff Steve Rushing, Christopher had spent several months at Lincoln County's Lena Lock in a female friend's house at 2033 California Road. He had also been shuttling back and forth to 1939 California Road — the residence of Lock's aunt, Etta Berry.

"Once we determined the IP address came back to user Lena Lock in Brookhaven, it kind of focused our investigation down into that area," Dowdy said. "We've been actively pursuing this since the afternoon of the 14th when we were put on notice," he added. "We got the call this (Friday) morning from the Secret Service to help go pick him up," Rushing who was accompanied by Secret Service agents Friday at 11:30 a.m. to arrest Christopher said. "We got him without incident," he added.

Dowdy said Christopher is charged with violating Title 18, United States Code, Section 871 — threatening to kill the President-Elect of the United States — which carries a maximum penalty of up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

Christopher appeared Friday afternoon before U.S. Magistrate Judge James C. Sumner of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, located at the John Minor Wisdom U.S. Courthouse in New Orleans, Louisiana. The judge at the hearing asked Christopher if he suffered any mental illness or was prescribed any medication. "There is nothing wrong with my mind," Christopher replied.

Wearing a faded yellow shirt and shorts, Christopher had handcuffs bind his wrists and ankles when he was escorted from the John Minor Wisdom U.S. Courthouse in downtown Jackson on Friday afternoon after the hearing. "I'm trying to get people's attention, they were only bluffs. I'm trying to get everyone to listen to me because I have an important message from God," said Christopher. "Everyone needs to move to Florida by December 31st, this is the end of the world as we know it," he further warned in a video posting. He is being held in the Madison County Jail until a bail hearing Thursday.

In court documents published on Friday, it came to light that federal agents discovered Christopher's driver's license internet photos from Illinois, Texas, and Wisconsin. In February 2008, he was indicted in Walworth County, Wisconsin with knowingly violating a domestic abuse order.

In August 2008, Obama was subject of another alleged assassination plot at the Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado. The three men, Tharin Robert Gartrell, 28, Shawn Robert Adolf, 34, and Nathan Dwayne Johnson, 33, were arrested after Gartrell was stopped by Aurora police near East Hampden Avenue and Parker Road. On December 16, Johnson pleaded guilty to one count of possession of a weapon by a prohibited person. He faces 10 to 37 months in prison when he is sentenced in federal court on March 20, 2009. The others accused are awaiting trial.

In October 2008, the ATF, a US federal law enforcement agency, had two young men in the state of Tennessee arrested by the local Crockett County sheriff's department on unspecified charges. Court documents revealed that the men allegedly had discussed committing a school shooting at a predominately African-American school and beheading 14 of them.

Paul Schlesselman and Daniel Cowart were charged in an alleged plot to assassinate Senator Barack Obama, the 2008 Democratic Party presidential nominee. A grand jury indicted the accused on November 5 on federal charges of threatening to kill and inflict bodily harm upon a major presidential candidate, conspiracy, interstate unlawful transportation of an unregistered firearm, interstate transportation of a firearm with the intent to commit a felony, transporting a short-barrelled shotgun across state lines without a license and unlawful possession of a short-barrelled shotgun. Cowart was also charged with damaging religious property and use of a firearm during a crime of violence.


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I CREATED this dire news article, the third after 2 dire attempts in 2008 amid dire fears since JFK was gunned down. Please help me in style for publications of this. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 07:29, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

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I passed this article, but I'm curious about this source. There is no specific information there that I could find, nor does it seem to be needed in the article (everything appeared to be sourced). I've left it in for now, but could you please either make the link more specific (link to specific information instead of just a general sight), or remove it? Thanks:). Gopher65talk 18:21, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Definitely, I deeply understand reviewers will have to take hours to review my articles due to tons of sources
Thanks for your PATIENCE. If you notice these days, many of my created news articles veer on the encyclopedic BUT I dare to say not. I should be satisfied for a quickie short news style. But I opt to write deeply within the gray area of encyclopedic news without violating the style guide.
 * Why? Many of news reader do not have time to open blue links, unless they need to have knowledge of technical words like Hamas, Ghana and unknown stuffs. So, I would blue link at least the names and places. Now, as I write a breaking news, the next day, tons of other updates would come in. So, I could not erase some duplicates which do have some critical facts not included in the duplicates. I had experienced failed reviews in hard articles due to LACK OF BACKUPs. So, this is the DILEMMA.
 * THEN, with encyclopedic related past events and places. "Christopher appeared Friday afternoon before U.S. Magistrate Judge James C. Sumner of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, located at the John Minor Wisdom U.S. Courthouse in New Orleans, Louisiana. The judge at the hearing asked Christopher if he suffered any mental illness or was prescribed any medication. "There is nothing wrong with my mind," Christopher replied." I want to justify the IMAGE I uploaded - the Courthouse. You know, Federal Court in USA are very very complex and cluttered or a mess for us editors and even Wiki Encyclopedia editors. Example, in William W. Bedsworth which I created I had a homily there. So, may I just ask your patience, hard work, and some more PAIN in reviewing my long articles. It is worth it, though. PLEASE revise, modify, trim, delete or even cut off some parts or sources which you deem see to be out of style or without backup. I am just a creator and had spent more times to create very good articles. A final note. Many speed readers who are familiar with the written article would have a better look at the news if it is rather long than short with many blue links. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 05:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


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22 million counterfeit cigarettes found in Wales

January 17, 2009 22 million counterfeit cigarettes have been found in Cardiff, Wales by officials working for HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC). They had an estimated value of five million GBP and impersonated the Classic Gold and Raquel brands of cigarette.

The details of the discovery, which took place on December 19 last year, has only just been made public.

The HMRC have stated that they have worked to find the source of the illegal products during the time since the discovery was made. The assistant director of criminal investigation for the organisation, Andrew Pavlinic, explained the reasons for this. "Had it been successful, it would have undermined the business of honest traders who only sell duty paid tobacco products," he continued. "The sheer quantity involved in this attempt suggests these cigarettes could have ended up in locations across the UK."

"We have prevented UK consumers from being conned into buying cigarettes that are counterfeit and could have more serious risk to health than legitimate brands."

The discovery was the largest hoard of cigarettes found by custom officials in the whole of 2008, although several other significant stashes were found throughout the year. For example, nine million counterfeit cigarettes were found in Suffolk in August, and eight million were found in Belfast in May.


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Israeli shelling on UN school on the Gaza Strip kills six

January 17, 2009

Doctors in the Gaza Strip say that at least six Palestinians were killed at a United Nations Nations Relief and Works Agency school in Beit Lahia after it was reportedly hit by at least one Israeli tank shell.

Two people were killed in the initial shelling, one woman and one child. four others were killed fleeing the school, when several other tank shells landed in the paths of their escape. The school was being treated as a temporary shelter as heavy fighting continued throughout the night. At least 1,600 people were inside at the time of the attack.

U.N. spokesman Chris Gunness says they condemn the attack and call for an investigation into possible war crimes. On Thursday January 8 the U.N. temporarily suspended all of its operations in Gaza, after the bombing of a convoy of humanitarian aid trucks which killed one Palestinian driver, and wounded three others. January 8 was the second day of attacks on U.N. targets after three U.N. schools housing refugees were bombed on Tuesday, killing over 50 civilians.

Nearly 1,200 Palestinians have been killed as a result of the Israeli offensive into Gaza, and more than 400 of those killed have been children. Israel claims it began its offensive in order to stop rockets that Hamas was firing into Israel. The Israeli military says that at least 13 their soldiers have been killed in the fighting.


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Needs a Picture
A picture is a million word worth... thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 79.173.248.248 (talk • contribs)

"Words"
There is a trend in the stories related to Op. Cast Lead and some others to overuse and misuse quotes for things other than direct quotations. Is this supposed to be a tabloid instead of a news organization? 72.154.55.98 18:32, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No, that's just bad grammar. Quotes should not be used as a cloak for weasel words, or as an attempt to place additional accenting on a word or phrase. Please feel free to correct the misuse of quotes, as you did in this article. Gopher65talk 18:52, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


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Comments:Cadillac unveils Obama's 'Beast', the 2009 Presidential State Car

The Beast is well-named.... That thing is seriously ugly (and I'm not automatically against big, chunky vehicles, at least not in terms of looks). It looks alright in that picture, but from some forward angles the front is truely hideous. Perhaps Obama should buy a Mini or something.... Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:00, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've thought for some time that it would absolutely hilarious to see the Prime Minister of Canada buy a VW Beetle (armoured of course), and paint it like the Canadian flag. That makes me laugh just thinking about it. It would be just as funny if the US president did it though;). Gopher65talk 17:54, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

It may be bulletproof, but he has to get out sometime, unfortunatley. Keep your head down Barack, the crazies are after you! —69.70.245.76 00:13, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

What Obama should drive to his inauguration.
A big 'ol box Chevy donk with 25 inch wheels and a custom purple interior.

sheiiiit i wanna be seein him roll up in a 64 impala Bumbin Eazy E and he needs the 24's

ObamaMobile
The right message would have been sent if he were riding in a heavily armored hybrid Ford SUV.....

--Jagrip (talk) 02:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Wheel on the back...
Well, where is the big 'superfly' wheel behind the trunk?

"... a sealed interior that's invulnerable to chemical attack" Really? Does it have a pressurized cabin? --77.75.161.35 11:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

WORTH WHILE
FOR SURE OBAMA IS WORTH WHILE TO GIVE HIME THE LUXURY COS HE'S DESERVING AN FOR SURE WILL DO HIS BEST,PLS ARRANGE A ROCKET TO MARS AN SEND BUSH JR AN BUSH SR TO MARS AS THEY ARE NOT FIT TO BE SPOKEN ABOUT IT SOUNDS INSULTING BUT STILL DO IT YO..CHEERS..

Sure sounds heavy...
I wonder how many miles per gallon it gets.
 * The mileage of Obama's car is 8 miles per gallon. Joao.pimentel.ferreira (talk) 10:58, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

I would like to see him (OBAMA)in a HUMMER H2 OR H3...LIMOUSINE! C.Scott

Beast car
I hope the number plate is not 666

Tony Pearce

 * Damn... I wish I thought of that... Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Great Vehicle
The vehicle is a tank on wheels. Perfect for Obama's safety.

Remove the Cadillac logo
This is one area where Presidents continue to do product endorsement when they have agreed not to do so.

But even if they were allowed to do endorsements, why do Presidents (or the Secret Service) choose Cadillac and Lincoln or some other high-dollar brand? When a Republican rides around in a Cadillac, he just reinforces the stereotype that all Republicans are part of priviledged class who deserve to pay higher taxes because they have so much wealth that they don't need. When Obama rides around in a Cadillac, he inspires other African Americans to waste their money on high-cost brand names (ie Timberland, North Face, Louis Vuitton, etc) and leave themselves up to their neck in debt.

If they need to slap a brand on the Beast, why not set and example just make it a Chevy, Ford, or Dodge? Obama doesn't need an expensive brand to gain the respect of Americans or other world leaders.

PendletonTX (talk) 03:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you honestly think the government got this for free? Give me a break. The car companies are hurting so bad that I doubt, highly, that they would not pay for this car. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 03:44, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Why is the car nicknamed "BEAST?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.54.21.146 (talk) 10:45, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Big Expensive Armoured SUV-like Transport. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:37, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Who The Cap Fit Let Him See
The car actually came with time scales to show that Niccollo. M was rigth when he wrote that 'So as a prince is forced to know how to act like a beast he must learn from the lion and the fox, so one must be a lion to scare of wolfs and a fox to recognise traps;. And the beast car shows that this Kenya lion obama didnt recognise the beast trap car that has front designs that codes triple 6 with the front vent specification that must be inspired from the facts that it is 169 days from obama birthday of August fourth to 20th January and that the numerical values of 'One Hundred And Sixty Nine' =266 266 hence like 26th 6th month that tally with the numerical values of the word Eben=26 [and] Ada =6 and this two sword like scepter called Eben and Ada is power symbols of the Africa Edo People  that has Oba as number one citizen of the world And the first 3 digits in the name obama is Oba remaining Ma and the numerical values of MA = 14 So 2 digits divde 14 =7.7 and numerical values of the word POWER =77 and so obama waited for 77 days from 11th month 4th day to 20th January to collect power and then consequently spiritually fell so his supposedly human being legs upside down looks exactly like 77 with his head down with the beast numbers so what a fitting beast car for this world naked beast incarnate riding devil-le beast ride The 26th 6 is pronouced as two six and six hence the front design vent of the beast car recounts as six, six and six for the front bumper veils it also as that The C.I.A should know that the Messiah who the greek call Jesus cvalled Herod The Fox and he was a beast of his own nature and s fox codes as triple six due to the facts that f is 6th alphabets and 'O' is 15th and 'X' is the 24th alphabets and 1 plus 5 =6 and 2 plus 4 =6 and F=6 hence Fox codes 6,6,6, just as the numerical values of the word Oba = 18 and Oba is 3 alphabets so 3 divde 18 =6,6,6

Who The Cap Fit Let Him See
From [Prince ] Michael Osamuwenmudia Stephen Ebenada Snr 'Email earthseventhtrumpeter@live.com The car actually came with time scales to show that Niccollo. M was rigth when he wrote that 'So as a prince is forced to know how to act like a beast he must learn from the lion and the fox, so one must be a lion to scare of wolfs and a fox to recognise traps;. And the beast car shows that this Kenya lion obama didnt recognise the beast trap car that has front designs that codes triple 6 with the front vent specification that must be inspired from the facts that it is 169 days from obama birthday of August fourth to 20th January and that the numerical values of 'One Hundred And Sixty Nine' =266 266 hence like 26th 6th month that tally with the numerical values of the word Eben=26 [and] Ada =6 and this two sword like scepter called Eben and Ada is power symbols of the Africa Edo People  that has Oba as number one citizen of the world And the first 3 digits in the name obama is Oba remaining Ma and the numerical values of MA = 14 So 2 digits divde 14 =7.7 and numerical values of the word POWER =77 and so obama waited for 77 days from 11th month 4th day to 20th January to collect power and then consequently spiritually fell so his supposedly human being legs upside down looks exactly like 77 with his head down with the beast numbers so what a fitting beast car for this world naked beast incarnate riding devil-le beast ride The 26th 6 is pronouced as two six and six hence the front design vent of the beast car recounts as six, six and six for the front bumper veils it also as that The C.I.A should know that the Messiah who the greek call Jesus cvalled Herod The Fox and he was a beast of his own nature and s fox codes as triple six due to the facts that f is 6th alphabets and 'O' is 15th and 'X' is the 24th alphabets and 1 plus 5 =6 and 2 plus 4 =6 and F=6 hence Fox codes 6,6,6, just as the numerical values of the word Oba = 18 and Oba is 3 alphabets so 3 divde 18 =6,6,6 Retrieved from "http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Comments:Cadillac_unveils_Obama%27s_%27Beast%27,_the_2009_Presidential_State_Car" More on: Wikinews:Commentary pages on news events

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should be drivin the same car jfk was shot in

Jimmy, you are one HOT man.....I love the passion in your eyes!

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He is The Greatest Surgeon of All Time, he invented heart pump when he was in his forth year in medicine school.


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US Senators push for DTV delay

January 19, 2009 🇺🇸

One month from the February 17 scheduled transition from analog to digital television broadcast in the United States, members of the United States Senate have introduced a bill that would push back the transition four months later, to June 12. This is due to concerns raised about the government's subsidy program for digital TV receiver boxes, which has run out of money with over 1 million televisions in the United States still running on analog.

"In Minnesota, more than 21% of our households depend exclusively on over-the-air broadcast TV. While the digital TV transition should happen, this delay is necessary to make up for the lack of preparation on the part of the current administration. Unfortunately, after guarantees that the Bush administration would adequately prepare and protect consumers, only in the last few days have they revealed that funding has run out— just weeks before the plug is pulled on analog TV." said US Senator Amy Klobuchar, from Minnesota.

Senator Jay Rockefeller, from the state of West Virginia, also led the charge for the bill to be passed. He said in a statement to the media, "Over 2 million Americans are waiting to receive a coupon to help them offset the cost of equipment that will help them manage the transition. Millions more don't have the proper information they need." He also had a concern that “...because this transition is going to hit our most vulnerable citizens — the poor, the elderly, the disabled, and those with language barriers — the hardest." This call by Senators has also earned the support of president-elect Barack Obama, who will be inaugurated on Tuesday.

The government's subsidy program was set up to provide millions of $40 digital converter boxes to people who could not afford to buy a new television or upgrade to satellite or cable transmission. Many people complained that when they received their coupons, they were not able to use them as they had already expired. Currently, approximately 2 million Americans are on a waiting list to receive coupons for these digital converter boxes.

Although members in the Senate as well as the president-elect support this idea, many television stations do not. Nat Ostroff, part of the Sinclair Broadcast Group which owns nearly 60 television stations, says that many stations had used a large sum of money to prepare for the transition to digital broadcast and would lose funds if the delay was passed. "A delay would not be welcome for the broadcast stations themselves," he said, "The sooner we can turn one of them off, in these hard times, the happier everyone would be."

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Comments:22 million counterfeit cigarettes found in Wales

If they got rid of the special taxes on tobacco, then there wouldn't be a market for counterfeits. --SVTCobra 13:16, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

If they got rid of the special taxes on tobacco, who would be paying for medical procedures for both smokers and second hand smoke victims in countries that have public health care? Its only fair that those who decide to smoke should be the ones paying, in the form of heavier taxes on tobacco. —69.70.245.76 00:10, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Get rid of taxpayer-funded health care, which has no legitimate reason to exist anyway, and that problem is moot.

 * Taxpayer-funded healthcare has good reasons to exist, although it is run so badly you might be hard-pushed to guess. Think of it as a kind of insurance policy. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

They should take it as a hint that it's time to give up the cigarette proliferation game. Downsize and stop smoking. There's no excuse for more people to get addicted now that it's such common knowledge that ciggies cause damage in the short and long term. 220.235.174.128 02:29, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Have you seen the little ciggies Crawling in the dirt And for all the little ciggies Life is getting worse Always having dirt to play around in.

Have you seen the bigger ciggies In their starched white shirts You will find the bigger ciggies You will find the bigger ciggies Stirring up the dirt Always have clean shirts to play around in.

In their styes with all their backing They don't care what goes on around In their eyes there's something lacking What they need's a damn good whacking.

Everywhere there's lots of ciggies Living ciggy lives You can see them out for dinner With their ciggy wives Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon. 71.120.113.145 19:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

What actually makes the cigarettes counterfeit?

Is it a trademark violation (which should be called counterfeit), or just unpaid special tax? That's tax evasion, but not counterfeiting....

Unrelated, really, but I have to say I love that the caption under the picture of a cigarette says "A cigarette."

Stopping the flow of counterfeit cigarettes
The easiest way to stop the flow of counterfeit cigarettes is to lower the price of the genuine brands by reducing the taxes on them. The lower in price the genuine brands are, the less benefit counterfeiters will gain from their trade. It will effectively render counterfeiting useless to them. Iceflow (talk) 05:45, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


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Comments:Israeli shelling on UN school on the Gaza Strip kills six

kill the terorist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"U.N. spokesman Chris Gunness says they "condemn" the attack and call for an investigation into possible war crimes" This excuse for not doing anything is getting old. Religion is outdated, get with the times Israel.

 * Lol wut? Hamas is a religions base terror group and their not fighting Hamas in the name of god they are fighting them so they can stop firing rockets.--KDP3 (talk) 06:37, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Need more holocaust.
I think we need more holocaust to teach 'em feeling of lost somebody. --Kazmierczak (talk) 00:08, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I remeber when I read what hilter said about jews: "I can kill every jew in this world, but I'll leave 'em to make people know why did I kill 'em" and that's why he left jews they are a tricky monsters which hide behind holocaust When they want to explain something...

I do not understand why killing 400 innocent children is already not enough to charge those responsible for war crimes.

I hope that all of this fighting will stop further fighting and not waste the lives of the people who have already died.

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User talk:195.229.241.174

Hello. Please not not remove content from a page without prior discussion with the community. If you believe that an article or image grievously violates Wikinews policies, then place a deletion request tag at the top of the page, and list the article in Deletion requests, so that it can be voted on. Please note, however, that the image that you attempted to remove has already been discussed (at great length:P), and it is unlikely to be removed at this time. Gopher65talk 17:50, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

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User talk:ShakataGaNai/Archives/2009/January

Main Page
Thanks for all you've done: its just great! However, as to the portals, I would suggest a single drop down box with all of the categories and articles. I liked last year's side bar, but that really doesn't matter. However, I just like being able to see all articles and events at once, without looking through each individual portal. What you've been doing is just great. Star Garnet (talk) 04:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the input. I'm not sure how I would fit all the portals on the main page in the open state. I've actually been tossing around ideas to just change them all to links instead of pop open category view, that way I can include more portals (like the ones I removed from the top).  I can't tinker around with the portals until I get an OK about how that will break the RSS feed.  Eventually though... -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 19:50, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey there. Likewise, I like the reorganised Main Page. A little question, though: what's with the snow graphic on Template:Main page header? Where I am, it's forecast to hit over 30°C (86°F) today. (For that matter, the Year of the Ox graphic is technically not right yet either, since the Chinese New Year follows the lunar calendar and doesn't switch over until the 26th this year.) Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 00:29, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've been changing the header to include seasonally appropriate icon's. The snow icon is one of those.  Also if I got the details correct, the Japanese follow the same zodiac calendar, but have their new years on the first.  Therefor it is more or less correct.  Regardless, I've taken down the new year icon's since it is the 4th.  I'll probably do something for chinese new years (and probably other holidays... because it is fun).  And if you happen to have suggestions for holidays or graphics, feel free to leave em.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 02:03, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

 * That's fair enough about the ox, but the "seasonally appropriate" weather icons are actually only seasonally appropriate for half the world (less, if you consider people living near the tropics). You might get some ideas for other things to include at en.wp's "Selected Anniversaries" list. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 00:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It is true that a snowman isn't exactly "Winter" for say someone in the Southern hemisphere, but at least they understand. If I put up a palm frawn, which appropriate, no one would understand.  At the same time, putting up a Menorah, Xmas tree & Kwanza candles don't properly represent all the worlds religions... but... It isn't a perfect system.  I'm just trying to spice things up a little, and give people something new to look at once in a while.  I make no guarantee's that everyone will be equally represented, heck, I don't even guarantee that everyone will approve.  But, we gotta enjoy ourselves a little bit here and there. If someone wants to suggest something for the islamic holidays, I'm all for it.  I know nothing about them... but they can play along too. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 02:45, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Warning for Incivility
You are receiving this warning for inappropriate or incivil conduct toward another user, in contravention of Wikinews:Etiquette. Respectful behaviour towards users helps to promote a warmer environment for everyone else. Please tone down your language when engaging other users, and keep it polite. Thanks! Iceflow (talk) 05:21, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Sierra Hotel India November Echo Yankee. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 05:23, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Romeo Sierra
You have been including the phrase or name "Romeo Sierra" in your reviews as a comment. I don't know why you are doing this, but it seems inappropriate. The closest match I have found is some singer that has a MySpace page. I suggest you explain or stop doing it. Insider jokes are not a good reason either. --SVTCobra 02:04, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You would prefer if I wrote Sierra Tango Foxtrot Uniform instead? Seriously though, if you don't know what "Romeo Sierra" means, I suggest you ask politely or you Shut The Fuck Up.  I would have told you politely that Romeo Sierra is a internal code that _I_ use for _MY_ reference because they are _MY_ comment sections and _I_ can write what ever the hell _I_ want.  If I had something intelligent to write back to the writers, I would.  Sometimes I don't.  Sometimes I write nothing at all.
 * In conclusion. I suggest you get the fuck off your high horse or get the fuck out of dodge. KTHXBAI. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 05:10, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * My best guess is Rubber Stamping. Am I close?  --InfantGorilla (talk) 09:05, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

So, are you saying that you are undermining the editorial process by issuing rubber stamp reviews? --SVTCobra 13:11, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * There are far worse articles he could have passed if that was his intent. --InfantGorilla (talk) 21:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


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Comments:Man arrested in Mississippi over Internet assassination threats against Barack Obama

Stevies last know internet post.
The very last known Stevie posting and video. posted at 11.29am

http://www.proxywhore.com/invboard/index.php?showtopic=154756

Thx, for a very interesting and well written report. -24.125.242.203 11:58, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Do the people that get arrested due to things over the internet know about the invention of a 'proxy'? Fephisto (talk) 19:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Crazy man
This man is a nut-job! He says he is going to kill Barack Obama for publicity?!? There are much easier ways to get attention than doing something that could get you locked up for five years and fined $250,000. This man needs serious help!


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Israel announces ceasefire in Gaza Strip; rocket fire into Israel continues

January 18, 2009

Yesterday Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert held a press conference to announce that Israel would observe a unilateral ceasefire in their offensive in the Gaza Strip, but that Israeli troops would remain in Gaza. The ceasefire began at 2:00 a.m. local time in Gaza.

Olmert stated that he understands Hamas does not agree to the ceasefire. He also stated that in order for the Israeli to withdraw from Gaza, Hamas "must stop firing rockets" into Israel, but that excessive rocket fire would cause the Israel Defense Forces to "respond with force".

"At two o'clock in the morning (0000 GMT) we will stop fire but we will continue to be deployed in Gaza and its surroundings. If our enemies decide to strike and want to carry on then the Israeli army will regard itself as free to respond with force," said Olmert during the press conference.

"The IDF and the Israel Security Agency have succeeded in conducting an outstanding operation, utilizing all the elements of Israel's force - on land, at sea and in the air. The military operation was characterized by determination, sophistication, courage and an impressive ability in intelligence and operations, which led to significant and numerous achievements," added Olmert.

Despite the ceasefire, Hamas continues to fire rockets into Israel. According to Press TV, at least 8 rockets have been fired overnight, the most ever fired into Israel at nighttime. This comes just four hours after Olmert said that "the factories in which its missiles were manufactured have been destroyed" along with "smuggling routes, through dozens of tunnels, have been bombed".

Hamas issued a statement following the press conference saying the ceasefire is not enough and that their resistance will continue.

"The occupier must halt his fire immediately and withdraw from our land and lift his blockade and open all crossings and we will not accept any one Zionist soldier on our land, regardless of the price that it costs," said Fawzi Barhoum, a Hamas spokesman.

Nearly 1,200 Palestinians have been killed as a result of the Israeli offensive into Gaza, and more than 400 of those killed have been children. The Israeli military says that at least 13 of their soldiers have been killed in the fighting.

Israel claims it began its offensive in order to stop rockets that Hamas was firing into Israel. The reason for Hamas to fire these rockets is that Israel blocks transport into the Gaza Strip, which Israel in turn does because those transports may include such rockets, thus creating a vicious circle. Nicolas Sarkozy, President of France, says that all three (the invasion, the rockets and the blockade) have to stop.


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I watched the news conference on Al Jazeera live. Awaiting other sources, though not required. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:13, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Was it decided that "I watched it on TV" counts as OR? Anyway, the BBC are reporting it now (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7835794.stm) so I'll add that. Adambro (talk) 21:15, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I was told that it was the same as being at the news conference. We have done this on more than several occassions. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:16, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Info on rocket fire was from live footage by Sonara agency: mms://media2.sonara.net/online2 (paste into browser...may take several tries to load as many people watching. Yes there is an ad at the beginning, but the feed is past it). DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:16, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * OR is pretty much redundant now sources are becoming available. Adambro (talk) 21:19, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That is not the point really. The sources were not available when I wrote it. The whole point of having OR is to use it. God forbid we actually go to a press conference sometime and we HAVE to remove OR because there are sources? Since when? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:40, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Who is Sarkozy? The name is mentioned only once with no introduction. 76.10.149.61 22:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Review
"Hamas issued a statement following the press conference saying the ceasefire is not enough and that their 'resistance' will continue." Scare quotes. --77.75.161.35 06:33, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Verb tense
Currently, the first sentences of the article give an impression that the ceasefire hasn't started yet. Should they be edited so that the verb tense reflects today's situation, e.g. "Ehud Olmert announced yesterday that Israel would 'unilaterally' ceasefire in their offensive in the Gaza Strip on Sunday at 2:00 a.m.", or better yet, "Israel started a unilateral ceasefire today at 2 a.m. local time"? --PeeKoo (talk) 15:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ — Thanks. Gopher65talk 16:14, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Old news is old!
Time to remove it from lead or update article and title? international (talk) 17:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Awkward sentence
To the sentence "Israel claims it began its offensive in order to stop rockets that Hamas was firing into Israel" I added "which Hamas does because Israel blocks transport into the Gaza Strip, which Israel does because those transports may include such rockets", which Soapy removed saying it's an awkward sentence. True, but that's a lousy reason to remove it. It's the problem in a nutshell. So if you don't like the form, change that instead of removing the info. DirkvdM (talk) 18:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

File:Mosquegaza.jpg replacement
editprotected Just cleaning up a duplicate file on commons so if someone could change the name of the image File:Mosquegaza.jpg in this article to the image File:Orphanschoolmosque.jpg. Thank you. --Captain-tucker (talk) 09:01, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Adambro (talk) 10:34, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


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Welcome
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User talk:Chapultepec-guy

Understanding Proposition 8, The California Amendment defining Marriage

Since the November elections, there have been strong reactions against the passage of Proposition 8. Some analysis is required to comprehend the impulse that made Prop 8 necessary. Prop 8 was not devised to disenfranchise anyone; instead it is a bulwark in the preservation of Western Civilization.

A reality today is that a program is afoot to rid Western Civilization of all Judeo-Christian morality, and in its place install a “new” morality. The “new” morality is the morality devised by our new masters. Thomas Sowell calls our masters, “The anointed.” Typically the anointed are lawyers, professors, judges, politicians, and powerful political appointees. The attempt to destroy Prop 8 is really an attack by the anointed on 1. the family and 2. religion, and 3.the 10 Commandments. Morality based on The Commandments is to be replaced by the morality of FDR, Russell, Mead, Freud, Rorty, Kinsey, and Weber.

The following is a section taken from ‘Bye-Bye Sweet Liberty,’ a new on-line(free) book.

"Family, we were told back in the 50s, was no longer relevant. This was an archaic idea that had to be discarded.  We (students in sociology classes) were not told how they arrived at this grand theory nor whether it had been tested and proven, but the-grand-wizard-of-sociology had said it was true, so the sociologists all went out and spread the message.  We were not told that other societies, going back to the start of recorded time, had tested this hypothesis and had reaped negative results each time.  We were not told that Mssrs.  A. Hitler and J. Stalin pushed this same concept with the full power of the state behind them.  Both of these very powerful gentlemen had to give up too.  Even various Israeli kibbutzes(kibbutz is a commune) were set up in a way that the children were to be raised by the kibbutz (It takes a village to raise a child.) and not by their parents.   The kibbutz has almost wholly been abandoned.

Currently we are being told that family is important, but that there is more than one way of defining a family. (Here we go again.)

When a theory of true science fails, it makes the front page of every newspaper in the world. Remember cold fusion?(Cold fusion was a hoax originated at the University of Utah in the late 1980s. It stated that energy as generated by the sun could be generated here on earth, at room temperature in simple, cheap equipment.  The perpetrators, Fleishmann and Pons were physicists and professors at the university.  In the way of true science, their claims were tested and found impossible to duplicate.  They were quickly denounced (as they deserved to be), and for all I know, Mssrs.F&P are now occupied as chefs in the French Foreign Legion.  Such denouncements are totally unheard of in the  When a theory of sociology fails, you never hear about it.  No press conference was ever called by the-grand-wizard-of-sociology to announce that all his previous statements against the family were untrue and that a new dogma, the all-depends-on-howyou-define-it family, was being brought into the game instead." Chapultepec-guy (talk) 00:09, 18 January 2009 (UTC)*

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