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Wikinews:Video Wikinews/2.0/Enlist

Want to be kept in the loop? Want to help? Add your name to the list!

Make sure you add your username, what operating systems you have access to and know, any expertise on the area you have, what all the relevant programs you know which might help and any other information which may be useful.

You don't even need to know anything! If we ever need someone in your area, we might be able to supply you with some training from another Wikinewsie in your area or, you can help with stories and research. We need help with everything. Visit The Yap About It Page To Join Our Beta

Video Wikinews Participants
User: Trisreed

Operating System/s: Windows Vista

Expertise: Graphics, Image Editing, Video Editing, 3D Design, Music Compsition

Relevant Programs Known: Fireworks, Flash, Vegas, ACID, Paint Shop Pro, Windows Movie Maker, Photoshop

Other Information: Experienced in graphic design.

User: Stickeylabel

Operating System/s: XP

Expertise: Graphics, Image Editing

Relevant Programs Known: Fireworks, Flash, Vegas, Windows Movie Maker, Photoshop

Other Information: Experienced in logo and web design.

User: Symode09

Operating System/s: OSX, XP, Vista

Expertise: Video and Audio Editing, and Recording

Relevant Programs Known: Macromedia Flash, Vegas, Final Cut Pro, Avid, Windows Movie Maker, Fireworks, Acid, Photoshop

Other Information: Have access to a green screen and a camera, prefer 16:9 over 4:3.

User: Markie

Operating System/s: XP

Expertise: Good with audio editing (if needed - esp Audacity) and ok with video editing. Will also help complete research if needed.

Relevant Programs Known: Audacity, Windows Movie Maker and a few others

Other Information: Err will leave this for later

User: DragonFire1024

Operating System/s: Windows XP, Second edition.

Expertise: News reporting, Original Reporting, In the field reporting and interviews. Can do some small still graphics work.

Relevant Programs Known: Gimp logo and graphics program, photoshop programs.

Other Information: Did a small news bit, just as we are attampting to do, for a school report on a polluted river in my birth city of Wayne, MI. It was on TV at one point and it was soo many years ago...I wouldn't know where to look to see what it looked like. Also created the second Wikinews Video 2.0 Video. Produced by: Zachary.

User: Thunderhead

Operating System/s: Windows 2000, XP

Expertise: Behind-the-scenes work, public coordination, etc.

Relevant Programs Known: N/A

Other Information: Did radio work for 4 years

User: Zanimum Operating System(s): Windows XP

User: User:Bawolff

Operating System/s: Windows XP, Gentoo Linux

Expertise: Next to none :(

Relevant Programs Known: Very little. I have blender installed on one computer, which I mean to learn how to do cool things with, but havn't yet. I'm familiar with win movie maker if that's helpful

User: Matt2501

Operating System/s: Mac OS X 10.4

Expertise: Public and Media Relations!

Relevant Programs Known: Nothing really, iMovie HD on my Mac, that's about it!

Other Information: Although I am really the technical sort of person, compared to some people here, I am nothing, I have done a course in Public and Media Relations, so am happy to work on any publicity if nessesary

User: Nzgabriel

Operating System/s: Windows XP and live version of Ubuntu

Expertise:News reporting, photography, audio editing, and graphic editing.

Relevant Programs Known:Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Illustrator and Windows Movie Maker.

Other Information: Online social media

User: Steven Fruitsmaak

Operating System/s: Windows XP

Expertise: some from Audio Wikinews, and reporting of course

Relevant Programs Known: Photoshop, Audacity

Other Information: just here to help if I can, to get doughnuts or do some typing or something.

User: FellowWikiNews

Operating System/s: Windows XP, Ubuntu Linux

Expertise: Writing, Reporting, Photography, Graphics Editing, and Sound Editing

Relevant Programs Known: GIMP, Picasa, Audacity, Windows Movie Maker

Other Information: Can help with writing and other jobs.

User: User:Jackl

Operating System/s: XP

Expertise: Journalism. Editing/Production.

Relevant Programs Known: Video Editing Suites. Camcorder.

Other Information: 2 year experience with School magazine. 6 months expertise as Head of Design, and Features Writer. 18 months as Head of Current Affairs (News and Sport). Three times winner of School's Journalist Competition. 2004, 2005, 2006

User: TheFearow

Operating System/s: Mac OS X, Windows XP Home, Linux

Expertise: I have basic qulaifications in video production and web design, and I have been doing it as a hobby for several years.

Relevant Programs Known: Premiere, Final Cut Pro, Soundtrack Pro, Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator/etc.

Other Information: Not much else

User: Gamersedge

Operating System/s: Windows XP

Expertise: Garageband, teleprompting

Relevant Programs Known: Garageband, iMovie, Windows Movie Maker etc.

Other Information: Uhhh not really. im 13.

User: Sm07

Operating System/s: Mac OS X 10.4

Expertise: Video editing, title design, image editing and web design.

Relevant Programs Known: iMovie HD, After Effects 7, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Flash, Garageband, Audacity

Other Information: I designed [] and the titles for this project [] (I only did the end section - fast forward to the globe)

User: mgeheren

Operating System/s: Vista

Expertise: I am a Journalist for Scholastic News and KV Chronicles I have interviewed John McCain and many other people, I can do field reporting or interviewing

Relevant Programs Known: Movie Maker, I Movie can learn others fast

Other Information: I am 13 but willing to help

User: Csmcdem

Operating System/s: Mac OS X Leopard, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Ubuntu

Expertise: Nothing Really, but I'm pretty good at Photoshop, and can learn fast.

Relevant Programs Known: iMovie, Premiere Pro, Windows Movie Maker, Photoshop, Fireworks, a little Flash, and Dreamweaver

Other Information: I am 15 and would love to help, it seems like a good project.

title: Wikinews:Video Wikinews/2.0/Enlist


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2007 Cricket World Cup: New Zealand vs Ireland

April 9, 2007

New Zealand beat Ireland by 129 runs in the Super 8 phase in the World Cup at the Providence Stadium, Georgetown, Guyana.

Toss: New Zealand won, and elected to bat first.

Fall of wickets: 1-35 (Fleming, 5.4 ov), 2-59 (Marshall, 11.0 ov), 3-83 (Styris, 16.3 ov), 4-118 (McMillan 24.4 ov), 5-172 (Fulton, 38.1 ov), 6-181 (Oram, 40.4 ov), 7-189 (Vettori, 42.3 ov), 8-260 (McCullum, 49.4 ov)

Fall of wickets: 1-5 (Bray, 2.0 ov), 2-22 (Porterfield, 7.2 ov), 3-35 (Morgan, 12.5 ov), 4-110 (K O'Brien, 28.4 ov), 5-125 (N O'Brien, 32.3 ov), 6-127 (White, 33.3 ov), 7-133 (Johnston, 34.4 ov), 8-133 (Gillespie, 35.5 ov), 9-134 (McCallan, 37.3 ov), 10-134 (Rankin, 37.4 ov)

New Zealand: P G Fulton, S P Fleming (capt), H J H Marshall, S B Styris, J D P Oram, C D McMillan, B B McCullum (wkt), D L Vettori, J E C Franklin, S E Bond, J S Patel Ireland: J P Bray, W T S Porterfield, E J G Morgan, N J O'Brien (wkt), A R White, P G Gillespie, K J O'Brien, W K McCallan, D T Johnston (capt), D Langford-Smith, W B Rankin

Player of the match: P G Fulton (New Zealand)

Umpires: S A Bucknor (West Indies) and S J A Taufel (South Africa) TV umpire: B R Doctrove (West Indies) Match referee: RS Madugalle (Sri Lanka) Reserve umpire: G E Greaves (West Indies)

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/


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Wikinews:Video Wikinews/2.0/Yap

Join The Beta
Wanna Join The Beta Add Your Name To The Job You Want, I'll upload more info later
 * News Anchor (Host The News) (5 MAX)[Switched]-
 * Weather Reporter (Name Says It) (3 MAX) [Switched]-
 * On-Scene Report (Report from That location) (NO LIMIT) [Varies]-
 * "News Central" (Breaking News reports, LIVE Updates & Answering Phone Calls for Breaking News!) (No Limit) [Varies] -
 * Graphics (Make Graphics [Lower Thirds, Background,Intro, Theme etc.]) [NO LIMIT] {Graphics will vary by edition, day and hour} -
 * Anyone is invited to join...
 * More Info Soon

Question
1. What is the name of the news music intro? 2. What program did you use to make the videos and animations

I need something to do over the summer so I decided I will make a News Bulletin(just text) I only need the right software. Andimahony (talk) 19:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Andimahony

The European Breakfast and NewsBrief @ 5.
Hi everybody. I am in the late stages of setting up an early morning news program of around 5-10 minutes in length which will take viewers through the main stories effecting Europe every morning. The video will be recorded before hand and then streamed over the internet using SopCast or a similar piece of software throughout the day. It will generally be released at around 6am. A further update will then be recorded for release at 5pm daily. As I am working on this, practically by myself I am willing to let this become part of the Video WikiNews project, let me know if you want any further information on the project or if you would like a better explanation.

Equipment: Currently I have very little equipment and will be running the program using a webcam and a basic video editting package.

Weather "Grant" from AccuWeather
If anybody with a greenscreen could do a national weather forcast really well, we could get a $5,000 prize.
 * COOL! :) I also have someone working on grant application drafts. DragonFire1024 12:01, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I have a green screen and can fo the graphics but, I can't for the next 3 days max - my PC is being upgraded —Symode09 08:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Story
I thought of doing a "touching" story on the Virginia Tech shootings - we can try to contact the shooter's family and, take a look at both sides of the story the attacker and the victims. THe family wouldn't mind - it might be the only publicity which suppoarts them. What do you think? —Symode09 08:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

That's Not All Folks!
Things are still happening behind the scenes - come back in a day or two. By Wednesday, there would have been major decisions made and, we will be fully ready for...

I am willing to help
I have a green screen, so I can do anchor or weather.

I could do some sports stuff, you name it, you got it.

I might be able to write some sort of prompter software --Cleefy 14:05, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See: Video Wikinews/2.0/Enlist. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  14:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Video wishlist
What do you think Wikinews video needs? What do you wish we had? What about cameras? A studio? Etc...? This is a wish list of stuff we could use for Wikinews video, or need. Add whatever you think will help :) In the event we receive grants, this is what we would spend it on :) DragonFire1024 18:34, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

 * 1) Studio. DragonFire1024 18:34, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

 * It is obious, we cannot have a studio - we need something which is available to everyone around the world. I think, we should have a dollar for dollar system and a hire system.

A dollar for dollar system is where, users will be refunded half the proce of any costs for hardware bought, as long as the hardware is used for wikinews. This would mean, I can buy, say a high quality webcam which costs $80 US and, half its cost ($40 US) is refunded. This would occur as long as there are no users in that specific area and, the user is willing to contribute on a weekly basis for a set period (say, six months) After that, they will be able to continue or, they can stop (either way, they can keep the camera for their work)

We could then, get seven users signed up - one reporting each day of the week. If each user is given $75 US for their work for six months (to pay for the hardware costs) it would cost a total of $280 US for six months.

IMHO, I would get the foundation / one of the users to buy the webcams so, there is a standard video quality / format etc. Then, the webcam could be sent out to the user, as well as a material green screen (pretty much the correct coloured green screen)

To ensure there is no misleading information supplied when people are applying (heaps of people would do anything to get a 1/2 price webcam) we could ask the user to send the money to the foundation via pay pal (or something similar) before we sent out the webcam. —Symode09 12:11, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I have contacted a US grants department to find out about the process and, received this reply;

"Thank you for your interest in NEH grants for humanities media projects. The next application deadline for media production grants in the Division of Public Programs at NEH is November 1, 2007. The peer-review process is six months in duration. Notification of awards would be made in May, 2008. If you have any questions, please contact me. Cordially,

Michael Shirley www.neh.gov"

We should apply as soon as possible.

Story
There is also the need to find a story to cover. We are looking for a story which is meaningful, discovers something, or takes a look at things at amazing depth. This is modelled around the "60 minutes" (TV show) approach - tonight they took a look at the deep and problematic problems with youth culture. There are two questions I have for everyone here - what are some good story ideas (I don't care how in depth they are - I can do confrontational reports and investegations (I quite like them to be honest) The other question is, should it be once a week or once a month. The concept in the long run will be to add a daily report on top of this but, now we want to capture people's attention.

thanx symode09

—Symode09 17:03, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

iWikinews
There is now a pilot program going on with universities and other organizations that allows groups to record video or audio to be released on itunes, or your iPod. Thought this would be interesting. 1  Thunderhead  ►  15:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Interesting indeed. DragonFire1024 15:38, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I have brought this idea up - it is being taken further by someone at the foundation :) —Symode09 15:42, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

STORY!
We seriously need a story - I will be hopefully covering one over here but, are there any story ideas? please help - no one has been helping to find stories - after all the early work, the concept has worn off - it is not too hard - all i need is some ideas - pleas help! —Symode09 15:40, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Some issues
As I see it, Wikinews Video has several fundamental things that need to be fixed before it can take off.

Journalistic content. Flipping through the various project pages, I find lots logos, promos, flash graphics etcetera, but nothing about actually doing some journalistic work (going out on the field and film). Coincidentially, the graphics page is called "The Wow Starts Now", and it appears that the community is focusing more on "wow" than actual content.

Copyright. Open content is a core value of the Wikimedia foundation. The "first official news report" was deleted since the permission didn't allow derivative works. It is now only available on Youtube, and is therefore just some video that someone has put together and used the Wikinews logo at the start. Many of the other Wikinews videos are somewhat obscure when it comes to copyright, and may very well be deleted. The copyright status of the music used in the videos should also be completely explained. The community must be made aware that they can only use content licensed under free licenses, but also that you must state what license you are using and that you often have to credit others.

Using third party servers. As I mentioned, the first Wikinews Video report is only available on Youtube. The same goes goes for many other Wikinews videos that can be found on such obscure places as MSN Spaces. Wikinews is a Wikimedia project and must use the Wikimedia servers as its primary way of distribution (essentially: Upload ogg files to Commons first). Otherwise you are just using the Wikinews trademark for something not affiliated with Wikimedia.

No wiki. Wikinews Video should use the wiki model, but doesn't at present. The first news report was just uploaded by someone who had put it together at home, after that you couldn't edit it. That is not how a wiki works. In the best of worlds, you would click the video file and then get a video editor in your browser, open to everyone. This makes it impossible to have a "video wiki" at the moment, as there isn't any open-source-in-browser-editing-software available. But for starters, the uploader should provide the source files and the video editing file so that another user can edit it using an external programme later on.

News bulletins. Judging by many project pages, it seems to be consensus that one of the goals for the project is to create news bulletins. This should be abandoned immediately. In an on demand world, news bulletins are an unnecessary and dying phenomenon. Wikinews Video should focus on producing reports about different subjects. The user would then be able to "compose her own news bulletin" by selecting the stories she want in her own order. This also makes anchors and studios completely redundant, so the "Newsreader" page could be deleted.

Keeping it simple. Another point about graphics. One of the features of the wiki technology is that it is so simple to learn. Graphics should therefore be very simple. At the most, it should be a jingle a the start, a caption at the end and lower thirds when needed. More complicated graphics are just a waste of time.

This may sound a bit harsh, but I see a need for some rethinking for this project. Väsk 18:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * One it is not a project yet. Is is a test project that is currently in development. Everything is currently a test and no way reflects the final version of the "project." The user(s) who did the first report did it as Wikinews Video themselves, which IMo is one of the goals we hope to achieve through this project because most all users involved in this creation are thousands of miles from one another in most cases.

 * YouTube, MySpace, MSN, etc are all possible outlets for the broadcast which would first be available on Wikinews and then one of those or all. Point is we need a broadcast outlet, and without asking the WMF to make an additional server for Wikinews Video, those will have to do, for now and until we can get that or something better.

 * Currently to do all the things you and others want us to do requires money. Right now we are looking at possible grant options, all of which are currently being observed and researched. Again thats just a phase and nothing has actually been done. The grants and possible sources of funding are listed here. Of course all those funds, if we have WMF permission and we are approved (nothing has been submitted to WMF or the US government grant program yet), WMF would of course "control" or be in possession of those funds, however would be available to Wikinews Video on a as needed basis. Truthfully, we have done all we can and really cannot accomplish too much more without funds.

 * Currently, other than the interview, which is still available and can be uploaded to Wikinews, was a shot at what is possible and what our user can achieve. It is proof that Wikinewsies can interview top rated politicians and such. For someone as big as these people are, they could very well laugh in the faces of these WIkinewsies and go to the AP or Reuters or etc.

 * My goal, is to get any project on WMF to be involved as much as possible doing anything they can. We need help on all levels and I for one do not want to see this project abandoned (again). We have the users interested we have the content...we just need the physical equipment. DragonFire1024 18:33, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

 * '''Endless Response;
 * Journalistic content. Yes, we dod the graphics because, it (imho) generates interest and enthusiams, and can be done easily without money. If you have not realised, the page "the wow starts now" is a slight parody of the vista slogan - and, when I name pages, I try to make them interesting (ie. yap and enlist)

 * Copyright. Open content is a core value of the Wikimedia foundation. The "first official news report" was deleted since the permission didn't allow derivative works. It is now only available on Youtube, and is therefore just some video that someone has put together and used the Wikinews logo at the start. Many of the other Wikinews videos are somewhat obscure when it comes to copyright, and may very well be deleted. The copyright status of the music used in the videos should also be completely explained. The community must be made aware that they can only use content licensed under free licenses, but also that you must state what license you are using and that you often have to credit others.

 * Using third party servers. I can not speak for anyone else but, I have uploaded videos onto external servers because,
 * a) I own the copyright for some of the things in the videos I have created and therefore will not upload it to WMF servers for some time until, I have fine tuned it and removed copyrighted content
 * b) To the best of my knowlege, you cannot embedd wmf videos easily into blogs.
 * Also, I have been using the Wikinews trademark for something affiliated with Wikimedia - Wikinews Video

 * No wiki. Wikinews Video does not use the wiki model because, as I said above of copyright reasons and, it is not even a project yet. You give the possibility of an in browser video editor - this will never happen. Can you edit audio files in browser? I do not think so (I may be proven wrong).

 * News bulletins. I have never imagined the concept of daily bulletins (for now) - I want to create a weekly FA and work from there. I doubt daily news will be a reality - the reason I am assuming there will be a weekly edition. I agree with you - this VOD industry is saturated. I have the vision of us being the worldwide 60 minutes edition.

 * Keeping it simple. I believe professional, conclusive graphics are vital - I do not want to make it complicated but, I think it is vital. One thing that we seem to be missing is the fact that wiki's allow people to contribute in an area they are experienced with. I might be experienced with graphics, DragonFire1024 might be good at the scripts or editing etc. Some people will take charge of certain areas. The same for other users - positions will be flexible. I think that if we are going to produce something it has to be the best. Anything less is not good enough.

 * I appreciate you actually questioning us - I would rather that and be able to fix our mistakes (and at least we have some food for thought!) If you have not noticed, I have been trying really hard to get some ideas put together but, noone seems to be helping and all of mine are c*rap. thanks anyways :) —Symode09 11:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Grammar :S
"more work can be done then ever before"... can we please change the then to than? Please... 41.243.41.200 15:37, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

 * ✅. The page isn't protected so feel free to change it yourself any time. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:45, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Video News at Wikimania

 * Hi! I am thinking about making some video interviews at the Wikimania in Taiwan. I have done this before. Have a look for example at http://www.perspektive89.com/video . This time unfortunately I will not have a sufficient laptop with me (with enough power to edit video), but I have a cam and a mic. Would be great to produce some videos for Wikinews and the Wiki community. Anyone interested, please get in touch!  .. e.g. through the web form at one of my blogs http://www.perspektive89.com/user/6/contact Mario Behling 08:18, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Helping out
Hey, I have video production as a sort of 2nd job - and I am keen to help out in any way I can! Any news/updates? TheFearow 05:27, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, not really, Video Wikinews is having a slow start, but keep watching and there will be updates indeed. Thunderhead - (talk) 05:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Great :-) I'm going to be a bit more active on wikinews now, this was the thing that made me decide to register here. TheFearow 01:16, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Helping out
Hey, I am a 13 year old, but id love to help with the scripts, theres a class at my school called video journalism, and it would tie in pretty well, i could also make a few theme songs, and see how it goes, im pretty good with garageband. Gamersedge 17:49, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Great! Feel free to sign up on Video Wikinews/2.0/Enlist and create some stuff :) If you havent been there, more info is on Video 2.0. TheFearow | userpage|contribs 21:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

"Meet the editors" video
Hi all,

I had this idea for a promotional video for Wikinews, which everyone could contribute to. You know the video of all different locations in the world? Wouldn't it be great to have a video that starts with the Wikinews logo and explains what Wikinews is, and then you see some of our editors who've filmed themselves in world-famous locations, e.g. "Hi, I'm Jason reporting from New York City,", "Hi, I'm Brian reporting from Brussels," , "Hi, I'm Frankie Roberto with the news from London," with the Big Ben in the background, "Hi, I'm Rico Shen reporting from Taiwan," in Taiwanese, and some different languages like "I'm Julian from Buenos Aires" in Spanish, etc. We could write a script collaboratively and put together all the video fragments we receive. A bit like the Jimmy Wales video for the fundraiser.

Thoughts? Volunteers?

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Well, I am not sure exactly where you propose to showcase this video if it were to come about. I can say, that I won't be appearing in it. However, I do not think that Wikinews lacks exposure, rather it lacks content. If we had hundreds of new stories each day, then word would spread on its own. I (imho) think that advertising at this point in time would have a adverse effect. People would visit one time and think to themselves "eh, there's not much here" and then write Wikinews off and make a mental note not to bother going there again. Successful websites, Wikipedia included—correct me if I am wrong—take off not because they advertised their presence, but because they just started "being". If we succeed at providing growing content, there will be growing readers, and then growing contributors. I hate to use this corny movie quote, but "If you build it, he [they] will come." OK, perhaps not what you hoped for, but you did ask for my thoughts. Cheers, --SVTCobra 04:37, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I think some kind of major reform to the way Wikinews works would be required to get hundreds of new articles a day- either we'd flood the visitor with random op-ed pieces, like most actual news sources, or we'd be reporting on all kinds of local news that would probably be overwhelming without a structural revision to the site organization (maybe not, I don't really know what I'm talking about). When I look at the latest headlines from BBC news, there are only perhaps 50%-100% more than on Wikinews - certainly not hundreds a day, or even in a few days. 67.163.165.236 22:18, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Well, if we got to that point, not everything would be on the front page. You'd have to click on your region to get local stories. If we get more popular you might even have to click on topic as well. But for now, we put them all on the front page. But you can help change this. --SVTCobra 22:25, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think this is a wonderful idea. I do think we lack exposure. There are certain interviews that have garnered a lot of interest and some that haven't. It's not that we're not churning out good stuff, it's that unless it's something that's of wide use to a certain base, it will go unnoticed. The interview style that David Shankbone has pioneered is really a step in the right direction. People simply don't know about Wikinews. When I ask for interviews, I introduce Wikinews as "the news arm of Wikipedia." People know about Wikipedia, and then get excited. Any kind of exposure for Wikinews is good, and thinking outside the box is a step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned. TheCustomOfLife 10:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I like it! Anyone up for a test video? --TUFKAAP 19:43, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I think we should not have hundreds of News articles a day as Wikinews does't need that many. I think a promotional video is an excellent idea and I think it should be displayed on wikipedia. --User:Anonymous101 (I would prefer it if you replied via the email link) 08:51, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Music
w:user:CyclePat: I would be happy to make some GFDL music clips.
 * That would be cool :-) If you would like to go for it :) Let us know what you come up with :) We definitely need some though. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

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Wikinews:Video Wikinews/2.0/Read

Decisions / Accepted Ideas We Have Made So Far

Features
-Presented in 16:9 widescreen
 * Video Wikinews will be;

-In a format similar to 60 minutes where specific major stories are covered in depth

-Produced on a weekly basis

 * Resources such as editing, graphics and other resources can be supplied by symode09

Possible Funding
-Geoscience Education
 * Grants may come from;

-Television Grants: Planning

-Television Grants: Production

-Television Grants: Scripting

 * A new theme-song is needed.

April 10, 2007
We have added a new theme song to the video (updated version on the right). I want to thank brianmc for his hard work in getting this music and a variety of tracks we can put some theme music together from now and in the future. DragonFire1024 14:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Credit for the music goes to The Dynamos, this was from a week-long session that resulted in a CD I have the master of ending March 2, 1997. The music was recorded in Hart Street Studios, Edinburgh and the credits are as follows:
 * Ciaran Bradley: Bass guitar.
 * William Cambell: Backing/lead guitar.
 * Andy Dunnigan: Lead/backing guitar.
 * Gordon Findlay: Drums/percussion.

 * Engineer: Roy Aitken
 * Produced by: The Dynamos, Roy Aitken, Brian McNeil.

--Brian McNeil / talk 14:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * This second video (updated version on the right at link above) is the Promo Video. This is not to be confused with the pilot episode. DragonFire1024 17:52, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * So is this music copyrighted, or is the promo licensed under CC-BY?  Thunderhead  ►  18:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * As far as I know everything is CC. DragonFire1024 18:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Can't we use the old music? — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  19:46, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No, the old music is the Sky News theme which is copyrighted and owned by Murdoch's BSkyB. Personally, I'd rather have a ticker type sound like the classic Tar Sequence that became synonymous with Eyewitness News. --TUFKAAP 23:00, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree TUFKAAP. DragonFire1024 04:59, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Licensing... Following earlier discussion when people had been given a chance to listen to the music I got in touch with the band and explained that I was interested in seeing use of some of that music under a compatible license. The specific track that was discussed was When You're Down as it had met with the most approval. I can upload sections from this under CC-BY-2.5 (They trust me to edit appropriately).  Anything else can't go on Commons until I discuss it further so please, stop hacking bits out and sticking some pictures with them.
 * I would appreciate if people would remember that I've been sharing music on a private page that is not linked to from anywhere. You have not yet been provided with a licensed copy of the music, merely a personal one.
 * Now, with that said I suspect you're going to lose stuff from commons, mainly because people have jumped the gun. I have an agreement reached by phone that only discussed one song, and not even all of it at that.  To be on the safe side I want to verify my edits are okay before putting them on Commons.  Only then should they be used in video segments on Commons.  Now, if someone does a hack job cutting them shorter, they can upload the new version too (due to CC-BY-2.5), but at least there will be an original which presents the musicians in a good light.  I also assume there's musicians or sound people on Commons who can tell when someone cuts half-way through a bar. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:32, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * BTW...I like the music. DragonFire1024 19:06, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I know, you keep trying to get other people to listen to it. :-) --Brian McNeil / talk 20:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

April 11, 2007
We have completed the second original Wikinews Promotional video/commercial which is currently being broadcast for everyone to see on YouTube. I created the images and the animation Idea, but screwed it up royally and Zachary bailed me out big time by making the video in the end.

It features a short glimpse of landmarks around the world from countries or reagions that have Wikinews Sites. Since we needed it to be short, this is just the first commercial, with a second to come in the near future.

In the mean time, perhaps you want to download the video? Well you can and its FREE! Just go to the area and download it. (the file fomat is .OGG though so you will need to download a special codec and I forget where :-/ ). Please enjoy :) DragonFire1024 10:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks nice. Easy (no codec required) link — http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/commonsJOrbisPlayer.php?path=WikiNewsVideo-DF1024.ogg . for info on codec see w:Wikipedia:Media_help Media. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

April 12, 2007
Well Symode09 has created Graphics 3.0 through 5.0 and I must say that they are very good! :) DragonFire1024 04:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The Wikinews Video's 3rd promotonal video is done! Watch it. DragonFire1024 21:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

April 13, 2007
Stickeylabel has created some new logos. On the main project page, a new animated logo (which is not animated on the project page).

A new player has also been created by Symode09. I am not sure where it is located, but If you ask him I am sure he will explain it to you :) DragonFire1024 04:59, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

April 15, 2007
Although it was created on April 11, 2007, We now have a YouTube page for the release and broadcast of Wikinews Videos. This is going to be the main broadcast point I believe...and since the videos/news casts will be created under the CC attribution license, The videos will still be 100% free and can be downloaded from commons once they are complete. DragonFire1024 03:44, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, We have checked the copyright on symode09's opening theme (top right video), and the images there are able to be used. Also the theme music that is currently there will be the same song, but in a different tone/mix. DragonFire1024 03:49, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

May 9, 2007
We are not halting the project! This is the time when we are attmpting to find funding options through the WMF and or possible grants.

At the moment several users from Wikiversity are assisting Wikinews Video 2.0 in writing draft grant proposals and searching for possible way that the project could be funded.

We are also taking this time to take in all the pretty major news events lately that have gotten in depth coverage already on Wikinews, and we are looking at those news stories as possibilities for a broadcast. We are still looking for something similar to the 60 Minutes or Date Line format, but not necessarily an hour long or even 30 minutes :)

So while all this happens, and final touches are made on graphics, the project will move quite slowly in terms of production and so forth. Stay tuned for more updates as they become available. DragonFire1024 19:27, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

May 25, 2007
Exclusive video interview with New Zealand Opposition leader, John Key

Wikinews has released our first official news report for Wikinews Video.

Users Nzgabriel and Brian New Zealand interviewed New Zealand's Leader of the Opposition, and leader of the National Party, John Key.

Key answered the questions in the form of a video blog, which you can reach from the links below:
 * A Wikinews Video branded video: [[Media:Wikinews john key.ogg|Wikinews John Key.ogg]] (11Mb, .Ogg video file).
 * The video response on John Key's website: John answers 9 questions about video blogging

This is just the first video so I hope you enjoy. Please leave any comments you have about the video on the articles talk page. DragonFire1024 06:49, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

May 26, 2007
Just a reminder to all of those interested in doing news reading for Video Wikinews. While we continue the "creation" process regarding the actual broadcast, we encourage all of you to get involved and speak Wikinews.

We would love for users to practice or show off their skills by reporting Wikinews articles in the form of audio. Anyone who has a microphone can do it. Simply go to the help page of wikinews audio for help on how to record an article. DragonFire1024 06:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

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hey,

I wa sjust wandering about the possibility of having a video ediiton of wikinews, It would open up many doors for wikipedia (imho)

—Symode09 03:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * If you're willing to start it, I think it would be great. Around when this was discussed, I was talking to some people on irc, and a lot of people (not me personally - i like to be anonoymous) liked the idea of being in a wikinews video. Also check out Broadcast (and i believe you are already familiar with WNN) Bawolff ☺☻ 06:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I am interested in it also...more of a reporter POV though. I think IMO though we do not have enough stories or articles and or contributers to do WNN at this time (most unfortunate). But the doors that would be opened would be endless and would be great for Wikinews. DragonFire1024 06:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I think we do if it was on somewhere between a weekly and monthly basis. We don't need to start off with doing daily newscasts. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I would agree to that...but who? And how? The image above is cool as hell...but we do not have the resources for something fancy like that. We also have to figure out how the foundation would like to proceed as this would be a matter for the users. We would need funds as well...but I don't know if the foundation would supply us with funds etc. DragonFire1024 06:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * From What I gather on Broadcast, there is some probility of stumbling across someone who has the equipment. Which would be really cool. Otherwise its ~$800 (USD)+cheap video camera for all the equipment which is a very pretty penny. The other thing needed is someone familiar with post-editing software. /me has a slow sinking feeling of this proablly not happening Bawolff ☺☻ 08:28, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * What about Grants? The US has a grant for just about anything...its just a matter of getinng it. What does Jimbo think of this? He seems to like the fact that other than the Essjay issue Wikipedia is among the number one sites on the internet. What about a fund raiser specifically for WNN etc? Theere has to be something that can be done. Although I agree that this won't happen anytime soon not because of funds necessarily, but interest. If enough users who have either the Money, Time, and or equipment come forward then there is a possibility. Has anyone looked to someone on commons who might have equipment etc...? DragonFire1024 23:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikimedia foundation raised ~1.2 Million dollars. the amount we're talking here is peanuts compared to that so perhaps they might be able to lend a hand if we're lucky. As for equipment and experience from other projects. we can get info out on commons-l and announce-l (wikizine). Bawolff ☺☻ 00:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I just watched the chili finger video...Wow. I mean its like watching a real news report. Here's what I think: To start simple we should would start by covering lets say for example 2-3 stories/articles a day or more depending on coverage of the days events, which could total anywhere between a 5 to 10 minute clip on a few articles (like a top of the hour headlines clip), or a 5-10 minute news bit on featuring several articles a.k.a. a actual news broadcast. For the moment other than the equipment we can do that as we speak (a 5 minute every hour headline update). We have the images and the articles we just need them to be put on video with either a reporters voice or face, even the face could be animated much like the above image. If I had a video camera or knew someone who is as involved with Wikinews as I am, near me, then I would love to report on all the local events that I can attend here. Now we will not get paid a salary, but hell, we will make other agencies jealous and who knows, we could eventually get paid for all this...I think if we stir enough interest and put a call to arms of the most trusted and involved and resourceful users we can find, it can be done and quicker than you or I think. DragonFire1024 00:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll just like to say I would support such a project. I've got a video camera and pretty decent with post-editing software (shameless plug, an example being newscast.mov; I'm the weird guy with the Australian accent). Personally I believe we should start with a weekly episode, to see how that goes, than build upon that (and hopefully increasing our userbase/submitted stories). terinjokes | Talk 19:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * On second thoughts, it wasn't the best piece of my work, but it is the only one I currently have uploaded... terinjokes | Talk 20:09, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Possible grant sources
As I mentioned above, I am wondering if grants are possible. I am listing what I come up with and would like input on each. DragonFire1024 09:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Television Grants: Planning
 * Television Grants: Production
 * Television Grants: Scripting

 * Do we fall into the "documentary programs or historical dramatizations" category? Documentaries, in my mind, are somewhat timeless programs that don't cover this exactly as soon as they happen, but within a historical context, once the dust has settled. Anyone else have interpretations of the grant description, negative or preferably positive? --  Zanimum 18:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well our policy states somewhere I believe that Wikinews articles are not a work in progress after publishing, but a collection of the worlds history at the time it happened. I think that OR would fall under history and such especially those OR articles that have more than one report aka Chili finger and the hotel articles I did a while back. DragonFire1024 04:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * A fellow blogger I know decided to weigh in on ideas of getting off the ground for WNN:
 * There is no doubt that adding a/v content can bring an added dimension to text/image based reporting methods, but there are pitfalls to be aware of. [I have been around this block a couple times, and I want to be clear that I am not hating on this project.] The punchline is this: professional-quality video production is very time-consuming and requires expensive software, huge bandwidth, and lots of top-of-the-line hardware. Considering the up-front expense and continued overhead, it is important that you use your limited production resources effectively. My suggestions:

 * For starters, you should scrap the linear presentation of news items. For old media like television and radio, producers had to decide what consumers were most interested in. Thus, if you knew there was going to be a piece on the Middle East, you'd tolerate sitting through an excruciating five-minute expose on Britney's detox treatment. That doesn't fly on the Web in general or Wikis in particular, because consumers have been empowered and expect to be able to follow their own interests.

 * Once you've gotten rid of the linear progression of news items, you can also get rid of the anchors. The only real job of the anchor is to MC the broadcast, but since the consumer is deciding their own path, that job becomes unnecessary. This is a good thing, because when you're on a shoestring you don't have time or resources to dedicate to producing filler. This one-minute 'pilot,' for instance, is all filler and totally unnecessary if you instead make short video segments and place them on the appropriate Wikinews article pages.

 * Next, consider your a/v content carefully. There's no need to stand in front of a camera and read an article that is already available as text, simply for its own sake. It is faster for a consumer to read the article on his own [also it gets indexed by search engines, whereas videos do not]. The video should bring something to the issue that can't be more easily expressed as text. Excerpts from performances, music, and movies work well. Interviews also work well, especially if you provide an unedited or less-edited version of the interview that is included in the textual article. These Chili Finger pieces are better off as plain text - it's a guy reading an article, and the b-roll is static photos run through a Ken Burns filter. The time it took him to go on-location, set up a camera, read the article, edit it together, compress it, and upload it is as far as I'm concerned a waste - because he had to write the article anyway, and he could have had it up already before he even got in his car. Instead: provide a video of the press conference.

 * And finally, there are technical issues. You'll have to address the format wars, of course, but there's a more pressing issue: despite its name, MediaWiki's support for non-image media sucks. At the very least, users should be able to see a preview of the video inline, much like the way images are displayed. I think it's much less intrusive if it plays inline as well, but it would be acceptable to click to a detail page to watch it [sort of like clicking on high-res images]. Furthermore, you can't expect that producers are going to have the software or technical know-how to compress video to spec. The server will have to accept multimedia files coming in from a wide variety of sources in a wide variety of formats and recompress them, if necessary, to something more consistent. This is very processor-intensive.

DragonFire1024 06:47, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. If something can be better expressed in text, it's probably better in text. The same my also go for WN:AW. However he says "The server will have to accept multimedia files coming in from a wide variety of sources in a wide variety of formats and recompress them". I disagree with that. As with our audio editions, if people follow guidelines, the server would get videos compressed decently the same, and in vorbis. I'm still thinking of the whole video edition being similar to Current's philosophy. terinjokes | Talk 09:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Note, that's theora for video. Vorbis is an audio codec. (Commons accepts ogg vorbis, ogg speex, ogg flac, mid, ogg theora formats for multimedia to my knowladge. there is another video codec for ogg, but I don't think its completed). For something like this, its better if its distributed in a non-web medium, or perhaps as a video podcast. The web in general has lots of choises. They can't do that in video (unless you do interactive video wikinews, with DVD like menu's, that'd be cool) so the medium has to be something where lack of choice is expected. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:55, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Streaming video
Free license streaming video software is one of the possible projects that Wikimedia is going to run at the Google Code Jam. I presume it would be worth it to strongly urge Brian Vibber to make this a priority? -- Zanimum 15:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * If this happens — yes. Its not vital (their short video's people can wait a couple minutes for download), but it'd be better. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * First we need the videos and reports :) DragonFire1024 03:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes we do. I'm going to email a couple people to try and spark some intreast. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I have already started to blog the discussion and the proposal. I included links to the interesting stuff like the Chili Finger LIVE Reports and links to what WNN is about and such. So lets see what we can do. BTW take a look at the above grants...se what we can work off form those or whatever. DragonFire1024 03:44, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree we need content before streaming capability, but unless we get streaming capability, people will be creating reports for an audience of two. --  Zanimum 18:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

There are four problems with the video project proposal:

1. Who will create it?
 * If it's supposed to be a regular feature, multiple people would have to be responsible for keeping it going. The last Wikinews:Broadcast test was just done by DV and it took him a looong time to put together.  I would recommend a much more amateur, vlogging approach, and that a bunch of people produce videos every week (so that we can be sure that at least one of them actually ends up producing something)
 * Us...we should elect users or get volunteers to do whatever work is necessary and whatever work they are able to do. DragonFire1024 07:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We have a problem with getting a consistent feed of Audio Wikinews, and audio is much easier to produce than video. How can we guarantee that whatever we try won't be just a one-time test like the previous approach?
 * The way we set our audio up does not reach a lot of people and isn't popular IMO...You need special codecs etc and its a hassle. The test last time was never followed up on...aka lack of interest maybe? DragonFire1024 07:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

2. What will the content be?
 * In the text world, our content is public for every user, and the final version is the result of collaboration. What would it be like with video?  Will anchors just read the content that was written by others? If so, is there an advantage of this over Audio Wikinews?  Meaning that there's very little advantage to consuming news by watching a talking head over listening to someone, or even just reading the headlines.
 * This is where we can do Wikinews Shorts maybe? Thats a good start. We can also just do a short headline update for each article or pick the top Favorite articles of the day...that is also a way to boot readership and interest. Video attracts more than audio. We would eventually have anchors...once we grow and are able to handle it...and again the more interest the better. DragonFire1024 07:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If the video will only be produced weekly or monthly (can you even have monthly news? isn't it pretty silly? what about weekly -- is that even valuable?), how will we choose what content gets included in the broadcast?
 * Well we have to start slow...get interest and viewers as well as viewer feedback. I think 2 times a week is good...once is good...as a scenerio or a test run to gain popularity...almost like a teaser trailer ;)DragonFire1024 07:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

3. How will we deal with the immutability of video?
 * Unlike wiki markup, video is a lot tougher to edit. There are no good online video editing tools, and if there are any they're not possible to integrate into Wikinews.  If that's the case, and someone produces content that someone else deems to violate the NPOV, for example, what will we do with the video? Completely abandon it?
 * We might need a formal editorial process...again by users voted in or something...sounds bad...ut thats how it would need to be done...IMO. DragonFire1024 07:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

4. How will we distribute the content?
 * Like folks were saying above, there is definitely a problem with getting video out to viewers using Wikinews or even the Commons.
 * I recommend that if anyone is truly interested, we can start this as a Youtube-hosted project: everyone can upload to Youtube, we're not encumbered by technical issues, and we don't have to worry as much about any of the above issues of distribution, NPOV, etc. Once we get the distribution, regularity of broadcast, etc proven, we can start thinking about how to get this onto Wikinews and under our policies.  Until then we can link to the external content.
 * YouTube or as symode says soapbox...even MySpace (sounds cheesy but it is viewers). DragonFire1024 07:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Additionally, if we are to really take advantage of the video medium, we will really need a whole bunch of reporters in the field capturing interesting content. For that we'd need people with equipment in interesting parts of the world.
 * Look on commons maybe?? YouTube??...I love going and covering a local story. So when i can i do. DragonFire1024 07:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Anyways, these are just some thoughts on the matter. I would totally love to see WN Video, however... -- IlyaHaykinson 19:49, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I would be happy to create it most of the time. The content would be the lead stories and similar to the audio edition but with presenters and graphics. If there are no presenters every now and then, we can simply use the audio edition with graphics and diagrams. Daily news would be difficult but would be useful. We can have a trial to see what will work. I could edit and compile the videos easily but, could not do it every night / day. I have editors etc. Tith the npov, we will use articles to the best of our ability. As long as we aren't compared to fox news, i'm happy!. We can have a disclaimer. I would distribute the videos on the MSN soapbox. The commons are useless. I HATE .ogg files - few people have the codecs - I do and I still don't use them. We shout outsource. I don't like youtube. The soapbox is a lot better.

--Symode09 07:29, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We could also try a podcast or something like that too...We do need a voice over reporting and at some point down the road some editors or something appearing in there like an anchor but not. YouTube I don't like too much BUT it is a popular site...we might want to consider it down the line too. The soapbox is a good place to start too. So in either case I support it one way or the other. Daily: No...not to start...maybe once or 2 times a week...DragonFire1024 07:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Also here is Symodes test: Wikinews TEST opener. DragonFire1024

I agree. We shoucld begin. I'll create the graphics and put them up on http://symode09.spaces.live.com/ in about 30 mins. I agree with dragonfire. syndication is a good idea (in the future) - this could mean, if we get to the point where we have daily updates, people can buy rights to display the videos on their site (for commercial companies)

--Symode09 07:56, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

With the opening, is there anything you think I should add to improve the opening? What do you think i should include in the news graphics which are used?

I just had a good idea. Instead of having news updates or daily news, what if we worked on something similar to 60 minutes? --Symode09 08:03, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not a big fan of the theme song, I don't know what others think but it doesn't sound "newsy" That cannot be compared to the NBC or Sky news theme song which is used for many networks (sky news uk, Au, NZ, channel 7 (australia) etc)

--Symode09 08:18, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

The world through 4:3 or 16:9 eyes?

should it be in widescreen> I far prefer widescreen. Are there any objections?

--Symode09 08:47, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

When should production begin for Video Wikinews?

What should the offician news be called?

--Symode09 16:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I just thought of where we could get help / resources! Universities! If someone could email someone who works in the media department of a university, i'm sure they will consider it! I think the university of Newcastle in NSW is into this sort of stuff!

--Symode09 16:03, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Good Idea. I am not sure what the universities around here would do, but thats a good start. DragonFire1024 21:32, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Graphics

 * Nice, but why John Citizen, Requested Scientist? You should say Thunderhead, Respected Administrator or Thunderhead, Department of the Interior, Press Officer.  Thunderhead  ►  08:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, ha ha ha... visit in a few minutes
 * I like...Thunder...these are just tests :) To get an idea of what we can do. DragonFire1024 08:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I know, I ... I was joking.  Thunderhead  ►  08:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I know :) DragonFire1024 08:08, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Ha ha ha, I know... too late! --Symode09 08:08, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

THUNDERHEAD! enlist! --Symode09 08:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes sir! Sir, I'd like to remind you about internal links, sir!  Thunderhead  ►  08:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, wonderful admin, eh? Your work pleases the Cabal. :-)  Thunderhead  ►  15:55, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

E-mail
Who currently has access to this email address? What emails are meant to be sent there?  Thunderhead  ►  08:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC) I actually set the address up for the Window Live Space. --Symode09 08:55, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes...when you sign up for it you automatically get an e-mail address for hotmail. DragonFire1024 08:59, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Graphics

 * LOL...not funny as the graphics...funny as the two people you used to do it :) I was laughing...I have to say...thats pretty good for a wide screen animation. I am impressed. DragonFire1024 09:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Music

 * Well i think the foundation would not care....its a matter if the license itself allows it...That will have to be researched. DragonFire1024 09:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * DF, I have this stuff on DAT as well as the original CD written on an Apple computer in Heart Street Studios Edinburgh on the second of March 1997. I spent nearly two hours on the phone with one of the guitarists (also vocalist) and his main interest is in being credited and findable from the content on the off-chance it brings him some paying work.  Since I funded that studio session (a really intense six 12-hour days) I was easily able to obtain permission to license CC-BY. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Great!! I will DL a few clips...If you go into IRC i will let you know what I think. I say if you got the lisence then just do what we do when we upload for audio wikinews...I just wish it didn't have to be OGG or whatever...DragonFire1024 09:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I just heard it, Great Job!--Symode09 09:33, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Brianmc: AWESOME!! I like it...I think we should have a sample more or 2 if possible...I think its great though :)

We could always use "it's a small world after all"! --Symode09 09:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If you have the permission for the music you can upload it, provided its in either ogg/flac (lossless) ogg/vorbis (lossy) or mid format (probably doesn't apply. Same as ogg/speex). If you got permission by email, you should forward the email to mailto:permissions@wikimedia.org . Bawolff ☺☻ 19:58, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Theme Song
On the test video we should have the intro song changed immediately to avoid copyright infringement...Use one...temporarily from the site brianmc provided maybe? music at bottom (last 2) just until we get something else? DragonFire1024 10:58, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not too scared of copyright infringement, I doubt sky news are sitting on the net, searching for their theme song! I will however add the audio on the blog. --Symode09 11:55, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I just noticed the third image, it's improjing with each version. —Symode09 11:57, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Also we should a Wikinews search box there and maybe the current WN logo as the Image? DragonFire1024 12:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * NO...we cannot...its copyrighted. DragonFire1024 12:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See: Wikinews/Logo/Proposals but many are NOT licensed so cannot be used until we find the right ones :( DragonFire1024 12:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't worrk about the logo's, get the content through, work on prototype graphics done. If it were me, I wouldn't worry... I would ignore that until near the forst pilot--Symode09 13:03, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Here is some theme music. It seems their user agreement does not have a price, just that you request a license and renew it every six months and do NOT use the music for profit. DragonFire1024 13:33, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Updated Video

 * I don't see it. --  Zanimum 16:10, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * ??You can't physically see it? DragonFire1024 16:12, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Try now...DragonFire1024 16:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

New logo?
Here are some examples of a new logos (Note: Feel free to edit these or make more based on these ideas. These are just examples and nothing more:

First Logo
I am trying to make one with a 'real' earth in the background. First logo design on the top right.DragonFire1024 07:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Second Logo
Here is my second logo on the left. I like this one a lot. After fiddling with the program a bit, which i have to say is for people who know what they are doing (in my case I am totally lost and am learning as I go.) It has some good features...but is difficult to operate. DragonFire1024 09:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Best out of all the ones you made, but personally I think we should stick with the site logo, or a slight modification of that logo, to keep it consistant. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:52, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Third Logo

Here is my third Wikinews Logo. It is the best image of earth I can find...there are more...help me by looking for some :)Lower right. This one is pretty cool. Feel free to edit it. DragonFire1024 12:46, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Fourth logo
This is the Fourth logo on the bottom left. I am running out of Ideas ;) not really. I like this one though...accurate in a sense. The text is hard to do...if you can better the text, by all means. I do need more images, better ones of Earth if I am going to accomplish my goal of a new logo with a real earth. DragonFire1024 15:15, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Logo
Here is my logo for Wikinews Video. I used alot of elements from the main wikinews logo, as it is well recognised amoungst the internet. I also tried to add a bit of consistancy. Stickeylabel 05:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I like this logo better than the other ones. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  19:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree.  Thunderhead  ►  19:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Animation
I've done some basic animaiton - it is currently uploading. Check back here in a few minutes --Symode09 07:45, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Anumated bar done The bar isn't too impressive. I have three outions which can all be viewed here

The colors can be changed. I just wanted to know the rough type of animation to follow. I personally like option 2. --Symode09 07:59, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I've always liked the "sky" theme for news. Sky news has the same theme - it is really kool. I think this sun and sky theme would be really kool (in the opener, I deliberately made a point of that because I liked that theme... I couldn't find any footage that was free! --Symode09 08:16, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

The Email Address
Who currently has access to this email address? What emails are meant to be sent there?  Thunderhead  ►  08:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See . All e-mails should and will be sent VIA Wikinews-I.

Graphics
I've done part 2... watch the whole thing, there are two scenes. video up in a minute --Symode09 08:43, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Graphics Part 2 DONE Part 2 (20 seconds long) is located here --Symode09 08:46, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

THERE IS A PROBLEM.... TO BE FIXED BY TOMORROW :'(
 * sorry, I have uploaded the files and they are working but, the video goes for a minute or so..... :take a look anyway right.... here --Symode09 08:55, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Would it be possible to try other colours? The same effect, but not as if it's a sun. Maybe 80c 30m 20y 0k on top of 100c 75m 0y 0k? --  Zanimum 16:14, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanx, I'm a bit disappointed but, I left a comment saying "it won't be long" last night and, I kept on being interrupted so, I felt guilty so I just rushed it and did what I could, I'll continue working on something... your graphics are good... which program are you using? --Symode09 09:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * This one. Its called GIMP and Its cool...but hard to use IMO....DragonFire1024 09:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Check this: Broadcast for this: TV Pilot. DragonFire1024 19:29, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * BTW Just an idea...not for necessary use. DragonFire1024 19:40, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Music
I've got permission to upload parts of the music here to commons under a CC-BY license (do they allow that?), I'm getting the hang of audacity, removing noise and editing out snippets, so if there's any bits and pieces you'd like clipped from the songs I can do it for you. I may get other stuff that we can use too. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See: April 10, 2007.
 * We have added a new theme song to the video (updated version on the right). I want to thank brianmc for his hard work in getting this music and a variety of tracks we can put some theme music together from now and in the future. DragonFire1024 14:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Credit for the music goes to The Dynamos, this was from a week-long session that resulted in a CD I have the master of ending March 2, 1997. The music was recorded in Hart Street Studios, Edinburgh and the credits are as follows:
 * *Ciaran Bradley: Bass guitar.
 * *William Cambell: Backing/lead guitar.
 * *Andy Dunnigan: Lead/backing guitar.
 * ''*Gordon Findlay: Drums/percussion.

 * *Engineer: Roy Aitken
 * *Produced by: The Dynamos, Roy Aitken, Brian McNeil.

--Brian McNeil / talk 14:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Time Machine
I've set up a time machine so, we know a rough outline of targets. I have not added anything... when should we aim to finish the graphics/complete our pilot?
 * Well thats a good question...A) we need at least somewhat of a hot topic....I think the grapics can come along good...and music seems to be at hand. I am not sure...maybe a month or so, maybe less??? DragonFire1024 09:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We're going to have do answer and set a date for each of the questions on the time machine page --Symode09 09:52, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Mailings
We should send update on the wikinews mailing list. I will send the initial one about the project. DragonFire1024 10:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Great Idea! --Symode09 10:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, can we start discussing the questions on the time machine]? thanx --[[User:Symode09|Symode09 10:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Theme Song
I have rustled up a (very) quick demo/test intro music sample from the track Brian suggested and some one talking in an audio brief. It is available here (play in browser)or on commons as .ogg here--Mark Talk 13:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I like it a lot :) but eventually, the voice at the end would have to be changed to whatever we decide to name the broadcast. DragonFire1024 14:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yup, this was just a really quick demo to show where/when the person would talk. It will be easy to edit it out for the real version.--Mark Talk 14:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Kool! I'll add it to the video and see how it goes. Have a look on the blog page in 10 mins
 * I have many idfferent versions of this track. Theres the one above, the one with no man talking but still fading and the one with the track at whole volume, however on the one above is hosted.  If you would like any other versions then contact me and i will email them to you. --Mark Talk 14:14, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Updated video
Done! The is on the blog (it is the first video) --Symode09 15:39, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Site Access
Will we get access to this site to update it?? DragonFire1024 14:10, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * That, and why do we need a seperate site? Can't we upload the videos directly to Wikinews/Commons, or to Youtube/Google Video and use the embedding features to get them to show up on the site? --  Zanimum 16:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hm well i know there is a code for embeding youtube vids but not sure if it works on foundation wikis. Certainly works on wikia but will have a dig round to see if it works.--Mark Talk 16:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Nope the code isnt enabled on foundation yet. Dont know if they plan to or not.--Mark Talk 16:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I am happy to change the password and give it to the users working on the project but if I give the user/password out, how will we contrill who has access to the account? --Symode09 16:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Trust me, the features in the soapbox are way better. People (in general) don't want to have to get ogg codecs, install them, get them working and all that sork of thing whenever they want the news. People want video on demand (VOD) which is whay places like youtube are so popular. --Symode09 16:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Also the Video Wikinews/2.0/Read in regard to the grants...if we apply, are that we use on demand video or streaming. Symode...my e-mail is on my user page if you want to send me the PW...I want to put some images upof Wikinews. DragonFire1024 16:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC)DragonFire1024 16:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We should probably have it on multiple places. An official version (in the horrid ogg theora, which can now be played in browser by the way) on commons, and then also on youtube/google video/whatever MS calls thier thing, etc. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. I have it on my MySpace Profile. Lets do it. DragonFire1024 20:12, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

60 Minutes
For those of you who don't get real news (ie. those of you who have access to fox news *cough USA*) 60 minutes is the best news show in Australia. You can see one of their stories |here. Even though this isn't one of their best stories, it still gives you an idea of what the show is like. If we create one show with one article like this a week, I would be over the moon. --Symode09 16:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Me 2 :) DragonFire1024 16:45, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Yup nice dig at me and my small little island. Very funny (to be fair i would rip it out of you too though ;-) But yeah if we could get something like that then i would also be impressed. --Mark Talk 16:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Then It's settled, I'm better then alll of you! :P --Symode09 01:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Attack of the Show
Perhaps Wikimedia could sponsor an all-inclusive programming block a la Attack of the Show. Wikinews wouldn't nessesarily need a "full show", but perhaps a segment evenly divided in to the Foundation's block. For example, Wikipedia editors could host a Wikipedia segment, Wikiversity instructors could teach for a segment, and Wikinews could distribute the news for a segment. I honestly think that a full show is more appropriate, I'm just throwing this idea out.  Thunderhead  ►  17:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I think that's a great idea [in the future, once we have content], I have no idea how much paid programming costs, but if the magical chopping knife can afford an hour, I'm sure the foundation could. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:08, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * No, no they can't. They have enough to keep the Foundation sites up for the next year, little more. --  Zanimum 21:03, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See: Video Wikinews/2.0/Read for possible grants. DragonFire1024 21:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Commons
We really should upload the second video to commons. At least for easy Wiki-wide access. DragonFire1024 01:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know (yet)... the stock footage I used etc. Is tnot attributed yet. I personally don't care about the copyight etc. but, others will complain.... I will for the next version if all fottage attributors give it the "okay"
 * --Symode09 01:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thats where you upload to commons under the CC by 3.0? so that YOU have to be attributed. DragonFire1024 01:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not that, I don't own the images or have their rights (yet) --Symode09 01:35, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Where did you get them from? Why not make a video up from images on commons? DragonFire1024 01:36, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Commons images to possibly use for most or all of the Wikinews's:
 * Statue of liberty

 * Frankfurt Germany at night

 * The Colosseum for Italy

 * Poland

 * Portugal

Here is a list of all the Wikinews's: Wikinews on Meta. DragonFire1024 01:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll take a look :) --Symode09 02:11, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We really do need something uploaded there though...I have all the top Wikinews's sites until China for still Image intros or what not and added the city names and regions to them (on the images). I will Upload them sometime soon. Maybe use those for a video on commons? (BTW all the images i used came from commons.) DragonFire1024 07:48, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

and then more graphics came!
aa you know, some of the graphics I have put together are here. Whuch one is your preferred ( I can change the colours etc.) but, I need a rough indication of which designs (if any) do you like. I like option 2 but, am happy to go back to the drawing board.
 * I like the colors of Blues...but the lettering should be black IMO. DragonFire1024 01:38, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Also see: Example DragonFire1024 02:25, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

then the motto came
What should the motto be? Possibilities --Symode09 01:40, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikinews; for those of you who think FOX is run by hippies
 * Your Idea Here

Wikinews: Be Neutral DragonFire1024 02:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

We report, you listen --Symode09 02:10, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Call me a downer
It is inspiring to see the energy thrown into this project. I hope it succeeds. However, since we couldn't even keep Audio Wikinews alive, how can we expect to get Video Wikinews going? We are struggling to keep the content on Wikinews itself fresh. In its present state, no "normal" person would go to Wikinews to find out what's happening in the world. They'd be even more disappointed if they came here to find out what is happening in their 'neck of the woods'. I don't think we should kid ourselves, Wikinews Video is not what is going to make Wikinews 'break through'. First we need to get comprehensive coverage of what is going on in the world (as in covered by MSM), then Wikinews' own reporting (as in exclusive OR), and finally we can cap it off with multi-media and take over the world.

I think we need a bottom-to-top approach, where as this video stuff is a top-to-bottom way to go. What is going to be the content of these video reports? Build from the bottom. Call me a downer, but I still think I'm a realist --SVTCobra 02:13, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I can understand what you mean, (I've thought that as well) which is why we descided to use a 60minutes (the show, not length) formaat where undtill there is great enough interest, we have one story per week which can be covered in great detail once a weeek. Later on, we can develop this more.

Don't forget, it takes time for things to take off! --Symode09 02:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That's why I have been working on Wikinews as long as I have. Sometimes it gets pretty lonely, trying to provide content for the front page. --SVTCobra 02:28, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Graphics 3.0
I present, graphics 3.0. It is 3 megabytes in size but, will give you a laugh! --Symode09 02:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * NICE!! :) DragonFire1024 08:05, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Is there any way that we could create a Wikinews channel on Youtube for the purpose of broadcasting Wikinews Video segments? Wikinews editors could subscribe to the channel.  Thunderhead  ►  22:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The account should be "Director" and in the "News" category.  Thunderhead  ►  22:23, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm on it! Also you may want to see the latest graphics stickeylabel has designed and I've animated.... they are looking really good! They're located at http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Video_2.0/The_Wow_Starts_Now
 * The links only show script...no images or animation... DragonFire1024 03:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed! --Symode09 03:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Publicity? Promoting what exactly? We have an opening sequence if I am reading this right. And why is ther a direct link to YouTube at the top of my page? --SVTCobra 03:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Publicity...you never know...its not to say in the future we may not need that person. It is to youtube cuz thats where the video can be seen at. DragonFire1024 04:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Symode09 Great graphics!! I love them DragonFire1024 04:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It was actually stickeylabel who did all the work. I merely animated it --Symode09 06:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I know but, the video is available on the blog, thus we can have all the videos on the same page --Symode09 06:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * UWell they are :) But we need to advertise to as many people as possible...so wherever the videos are makes it that much more better that we will have viewers or contributers :) Some already signed up just because of tthis project :) DragonFire1024 06:21, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Huh? Please explain--Symode09 06:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We need to advertise the fact that Wikinews is going video...so the more places that people can go to view the video (the 1 on YouTube) the better...If I could I would put the 2 on TV :) DragonFire1024 06:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ooooh, ok, I've gotcha! srry. Could you add a link to the blog? --Symode09 06:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Videos on Wikinews pages
Is it possible to apply to have a page set up on wikinews which we can embedd videos on from external sites (ie. soapbox or youtube)?--Symode09 06:50, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No... at least in the form of external links. We don't want to promote an outside source more than we have to and thats why we should upload to commons more often. But YES there is a way we can embed videos onto pages on Wikinews...just not sure how to do that. DragonFire1024 06:55, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I will create a video player for the site... then can we embedd it? --Symode09 11:15, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, embedding. It is possible as there is a code available but its not installed on foundation wikis yet.  Not sure if foudation have yet got a code for commons videos and if they have whether they plan on installing it.  Also the code that does exist is for youtube so i severly doubt this will ever be installed.  I will have a dig around though.--Mark Talk 11:31, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikimedia has their own player...see the link at the top of the page where the Promo video is uploaded to commons. DragonFire1024 11:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes but this can currently only be embeded in an html page. To embed it in a wikipage they would need to from some new code. --Mark Talk 11:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah yes...hhhmmm...DragonFire1024 11:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * on wikia (wikicities) wikis you can embed youtube videos. You can not do that in wikimedia wikis (Flash is unfree or something). The java player is free (I belive) but you can't embed it (I think) because no one has worked on making it embedable (again I think that's the reason, I do not know). We should probably ask someone what the chances of that becoming embeddable are, as it'd be a great help I think. So for know its only links to the image page, a direct lnk (media:) or something like commons:template:video. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Note from a technical point of view, we could embed it with js, but thats a really bad idea for a number of reasons. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Video 2.0 Commercial/Promo on YouTube and Commons!!
Let the publicity start. I created this after I would say 3 hours maybe 5...but I screwed it up. Zachary managed to fix my mess and recover it. Here is the result in What I think is Pretty Damn good: Wikinews intro. Here is the downloadable version.

All the images are STILL images and were taken from commons and the city names were placed on them. This is one promo that shows a variety of locations where there are Wikinews Sites. DragonFire1024 09:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

wikiversity
I wonder if coordination with wikiversity (Filmmaking) would be mutually beneficial. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I would think so :) DragonFire1024 19:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Designs
I have updated the main Wikinews Video page to include my designs for the opener and news graphics. I hope you like them. A flash video has also been compiled, thanks to Symode09, using my designs. I have also updated the logo to resemble the Wikinews: Print Edition logo. Stickeylabel 03:57, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Third Promo video released
I have created and made the third promotional video for Wikinews Video.

Watch: Wikinews Promo Video 3

Download from Commons: DragonFire1024 04:54, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment this trailer has nothing from North America, South America, Middle East, mainland Asia or Africa. Lots of Europe plus Japan, Australia and New Zealand. --SVTCobra 19:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sort of like wikinews coverage [[image:smile.png]]. (lots of New Zealand, and Australia, and didly squat of anything else). Bawolff ☺☻
 * Again most of the countries represent languages spoken on Wikinews sites...or Wikinews sites in general. It was not meant as a POV...and I am actually just a little upset that it is being accused of being that way. DragonFire1024 01:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Not trying to hurt feelings. But if you are going for wiki-languages shouldn't Toronto and/or New York be in there. We are both from New York (state) and NYC is the biggest city in the biggest country of the English speaking world, which is the #1 wiki-language. --SVTCobra 23:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * NY was in the first promotional video. Sorry, I did forget Canada :) DragonFire1024 02:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

New Image
I have uploaded Image:Earth.gif which is just an example of what the end of the opening credits/theme will look like just before we start reporting or whatever. The colors are off on the lettering because a gif can only do 256 colors. A logo of a sort will be added later. DragonFire1024 08:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the lettering does look kind of weird, but otherwise its good. Acording to the wikipedia article on gif images there is a way arround the 256 colour issue, but It doesn't look very easy to do, or even possible with animation [unsure]. You should probably have this image under the gfdl, and link to Image:Rotating earth (large).gif (assuming this is based on that) to comply with the gfdl. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Audio
Right was going to get round to doing some new music mixs for this but i need links or copies of the tracks that are currently being used (ie on the newest tracks) and any for future because im loosing track of what each promo video is using. So if the people who have the tracks could list them here then i would appriciate it. Thanks --Mark Talk 10:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I personally dislike the modern rock/bass theme music that is current in the promos. I personally would like to see traditional theme music, similar to SKY News or BBC News, that portrays credibility and balance. However in response to your question, I am not sure who has the tracks. Stickeylabel 10:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Here is the link of the music we can use: . Any of those tracks are at our disposal to do with whatever we please...I also have 2 audio files of an opening theme song and the closing theme...if you e-mail me (mail is on userpage) I will reply with the files. The videos are just promos and are in no way reflecting ACTUAL theme music...I believe that the opening theme music that was on one of the Windows Live videos is at the bottom of the link. DragonFire1024 10:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We can also use audio here. DragonFire1024 19:42, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I personally would like to have a theme along the lines of a teletype printer type sound or something like the Eyewitness News theme (i.e. the tar sequence from Cool Hand Luke). Plus, it would be easier to create and sounds professional since it's a trademark noise of news programming. --TUFKAAP 21:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * How do we make it? And where do we get the music...I agree we need a theme song...brianmc has already got a few put together here. DragonFire1024 05:24, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Behold The Wikinews Player!
Notice how fast it loads (for a sluggish video), if you hover over the video, the controlls show up (you may have to click on it once to activate the video)

The video is off an australian comedy show... they poke a bit of fun at the americans... it is pretty funny

--Symode09 16:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * LINKY? Bawolff ☺☻ 17:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops here. :) DragonFire1024 17:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry! Thanks Dragonfire :P --Symode09 01:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

 * The player looks excellent, and believe me I have LOLLED on that video!!!--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:10, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Is that video public domain? or a copy-vio? (I know you didn't put on a wiki-domain, but you did put wikinews all over it.) --SVTCobra 20:02, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well its a (semi)private test, so it probably doesn't matter that much (if you want to get technical, the wikinews logo over therer is a breach of the wmf's copyright). Bawolff ☺☻ 20:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

 * For all the fretting the foundation is doing about image copyrights, I don't think that "semi-private" is rationale for an WN:EDP. --SVTCobra 20:17, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * For the java player, we should try to convince someone to apply the following css, to give it a similiar look of the player presented here:

body {background: url(http://members.iinet.com.au/~symode09/wikinewsbg.JPG) no-repeat;padding-left:170px;padding-top:140px}

Bawolff ☺☻ 20:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

all this yapping is getting me down
what is Yap? why does its talk page redirect to bad monkey? and why does this yap need a flag in addition to the flag on the WN video page? and a flag on the WC discussion about it? and a flagged poll over a player on yet another page? –Doldrums(talk) 17:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

 * also, how about publicizing this widely after we make a pilot? –Doldrums(talk) 17:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * So, how do we make major decisions? Publicity will obiously come with polls etc. If you haven't realised, this project deos involve a bit of humor... you usually don't inlist into a project, you don't get into a time machine when you want to find out what is happening in the future, with our gallery - the wow starts now is making a bit of fun of a major o/s's slogan. If you haven't come accross the word yap, look it up here and for the monkey, I'm sure you can work out, it is not too serious. Instead of complaining about what youdon'l like help tofix and improve things--Symode09 01:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Offering Help
If I could assist in anyway with this project I would really like to. Get back to me if you have any ideas. Thanks Ycanneh 21:25, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You might want to join the Wikinews-l mailing list (see above), and subscribe to our enlistment list here.  Thunderhead  ►  21:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Stories
The graphics are ready to be put together, what we need to do now, is begin writing the story and, getting journalists. Let's try to look at one story in much depth. Can we have some suddgestions for who could be a journo/newsreader (even family and friends, if you tell them what to say) and, what shory should we cover. --Symode09 08:41, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Upcoming French elections?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:12, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I think we need something a bit more worldwide (and hopefully able to commect to people's emotions) —Symode09 11:17, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well we could definintly use the French election as an event. We might also be able to cover the six-party talks with North Korea whenever they resume.  Thunderhead  ►  19:54, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well given the school shooting in WV, I think that we might want to do an in depth on that...it seems that WV Tech has bomb threats and at least one other shooting in the past DragonFire1024 02:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Credits
I am going to need the full names (first and last) of the people that put physical contributions into Wikinews Video and those names of the people who will eventually be the anchor/news reader. Please provide them here or on my talk page. If you do not want your full name on Wikinews or any other Wiki, please e-mail me with your full name...(my e-mail is on my userpage in the blue accredited box at the top.) DragonFire1024 03:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * How about people that wanna do the PR?  Thunderhead  ►  00:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well they can also do that if they like :) DragonFire1024 02:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * what do you need real names for? surely not on-screen credits. usernames serve equally well there. Wikimedia users should not have to reveal their identity to anyone in order to contribute. pls do not ask for identities without making that very clear. make every effort to see whether identities are essential for whatever you're working on. –Doldrums(talk) 04:44, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


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Martin Luther King, Jr. was famous for speaking out against racial discrimination. He had a dream that people would not discriminate based on race. That dream was formed nearly forty years ago, and for the most part, I would say that the United States has worked hard on fighting racism. I think our country is, and has been on the right path to racial equality. However, there are major roadblocks in the way. There are quite a few outrageous laws and bills that are very racist. These laws are not racist toward black people as you may think at first, but white. There should be no laws discriminating toward one way or another. I believe that if Martin Luther King was alive today, he, despite being black himself

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NFL: Former 1st pick Carr signs with Panthers

April 6, 2007

David Carr, the first pick in Houston Texans history, and the first overall pick of the 2002 NFL Draft was signed Friday by the Carolina Panthers. Carr will serve as backup to current starter Jake Delhomme.

Carr, a five-year starting quarterback for the Texans, completed 60 percent of his passes, but threw 65 interceptions and was sacked 249 times. He completed 68.3 percent of his passes last season, a career high. Carr was sacked 249 times in the past five seasons with the Texans, and was released by the organization after they made a trade with the Atlanta Falcons to acquire Matt Schaub, who had served as the backup quarterback to Michael Vick.

The Panthers were in need of a quality backup quarterback after releasing seven-year veteran Chris Weinke in March. Weinke had struggled last season, leading the team to a 1-2 record during an injury to Delhomme.

The move means the Panthers now have the top two picks from the 2002 draft. Carolina selected defensive end Julius Peppers with No. 2 pick. The Panthers have not done much outside of the Carr deal this off-season, with 21 of last season's 22 starting players returning to the team.

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FYI: The short regarding the Masters tournament has a full article: Zach Johnson wins 2007 Masters Golf Tournament —Zachary talk 17:22, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

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English Premier League
12:45 - Watford v Portsmouth 15:00 - Aston Villa v Wigan 15:00 - Bolton v Everton 15:00 - Fulham v Man City 15:00 - Newcastle v Arsenal 20:00 - Charlton v Reading

Scottish Premier League
No Games Today

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No Games Today

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Champions League
19:45 - Bayern Munich v Milan 19:45 - Liverpool v PSV

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Welcome
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 * You can have your username changed at Changing username.  Thunderhead  ►  21:33, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

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