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I fixed some overuse of commas and added wikipedia links to craigslist and ebay - I doubt everyone is familiar with craigslist and it seemed silly not to link to ebay as well since they're in the same sentence. Amazoneveryday 04:24, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
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Talk:Psilocybin induces mystical and spiritual experiences: study

What's a mystical/spiritual experience? -Edbrown05 04:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I dont understand how this is news, because this effect has been known for a long time. AFAIK this is not something new, but instead "another" study, which shows something already known. However, i'm not sure if the previous tests were doubleblind. --82.141.52.34 09:23, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

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"Hezbollah is currently a member of the Lebanese government's ruling coalition." I'm a bit unsure on that, actually, i think i want to revert it.... -Edbrown05 06:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

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Cheers --Yaf201 15:35, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Oops - found one http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6045475,00.html --Yaf201 15:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

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Day of attacks continue in Israel and Lebanon

July 13, 2006Fighting continued in Israel and Lebanon as Israel attacked targets in Lebanon using aircrafts and ships. Rockets were fired from Lebanon and landed on the Israeli side of the border, Thursday. Israel called their military action "Operation Just Reward".

The clashes follow a Hezbollah raid into Israel which they called "Truthful Promise" in which Hezbollah claimed to have captured two Israeli soldiers. Israel said the men were kidnapped.

Israeli aircraft launched missiles at Beirut international airport and damaged runways and fuel stores. Additional targets were attacked, including 18 bridges, and a Hezbollah run TV station, Al-Manar, which continued to broadcast after being targeted, but later went partially off air.

45 Lebanese civilians and two soldiers were reported killed as a result of Israeli overnight raids and 103 people were injured. In some areas Israeli planes had dropped leaflets to warn residents to stay away from Hezbollah buildings.

Over 100 rockets were fired from Lebanon towards northern Israel Thursday, which the Israeli Army says are the acts of Hezbollah. Two Israeli civilians were reported killed over 100 injured.

The Lebanese road communications network was targeted: 18 bridges were damaged and early on Friday the highway linking Beirut and Damascus was hit by five Israeli missiles. The highway is the only route out of the country after the airport was shut down. Witnesses said that the road was free from traffic when the missiles hit.

In a television interview, Wednesday July 12, Brigadier Gen. Dan Halutz had told Israel's Channel 10 that if the Israeli soldiers were not returned Israel would "turn Lebanon's clock back 20 years". He also said of Lebanon "nothing is safe."

Beirut International Airport
Israeli airforce attacked Beirut Rafic Hariri International Airport in the Lebanese capital twice on Thursday. The first airstrike hit the airport runways. The second strike, which took place after Haifia in Israel was hit by two rockets, destroyed fuel tanks at the airport. The attacks forced cancellation of all flights to and from the airport and the closure of the facility, police and airport officials said.

Places attacked

 * Two Lebanese army air bases were attacked.
 * Lebanon says two families of 10 and seven members respectively were killed in their homes in Dweir by Israeli attacks.
 * The Hezbollah supported TV station Al-Manar was hit by an Israeli missile, but the broadcasting continued according to an official at the station. However, an antenna in the town of Baalbek stopped transmitting. One person at the site was injured.
 * A civic station near Baalbek was hit.
 * The highway between Beirut and Damascus was hit by at least five missiles fired by an Israeli aircraft.
 * The highway leading to Sidon through Rmeileh has been bombed. All roads are cut off.
 * Israeli warplanes raid Almanar TV in Southern Beirut (Hezbollah TV station) and one of its affiliates in Nabatiyeh.
 * 18 bridges were hit causing an estimated $25 million damages. Among those hit were the Litani River Bridge, the Qaaqaaiet Bridge, Deir Zahrani-Roumin Bridge, Zahrani River Bridge, Kfarmen Yarmuk Bridge, Green Valley Bridge, Siblin-Wadi Zeina Bridge, Siniq Bridge, Khardaleh Bridge, Damour-South Bridge and two bridges on the Awali river. Damage ranged from completely destroyed to severe or damaged.

Other Israeli actions

 * Israeli warplanes flew over Beirut at 8:00AM local time, July 14th
 * Israeli planes dropped leaflets over Shiite areas of southern Beirut which told residents to stay away from Hezbollah buildings.
 * Israeli naval forces set up a blockade of the Lebanese coast.

Notes

 * Israel claims their offensive is in retaliation to Wednesday's attack by Hezbollah on an Israeli border patrol and what Hezbollah called the capture of two Israeli soldiers. Israel said the soldiers - Ehud Goldwasser, 31, and Eldad Regev, 26 - were kidnapped.

Northern Israel
Israel claims that at least two civilians died and others injured as over 100 rockets, including the Katyusha and Thunder 1, landed in northern Israel, including Haifia on Thursday. Israel said the attacks were from Hezbollah.

Places attacked

 * Two rockets were fired into Haifa, the third largest city in Israel. The attack did not result in any damage or injuries. Israeli police said both rockets hit the Stella Maris district of Haifia which is an area popular with tourists.
 * A house in Nahariya, ten kilometers south of the Israeli-Lebanon border, was hit killing a woman, while 29 others were wounded.
 * The town of Safed was hit by four rockets, one civilian was killed and 11 wounded. Of the three who sustained serious injuries, two were children.
 * Rockets hit the town of Karmiel, but there were no injuries.
 * In the village of Majdal Qrum (Majd el-Kurum) a civilian was injured.
 * In the small town of Zirit a civilian was slightly injured.
 * In an attack at night Mount Meron was hit by 10 rockets; there were no casualties.
 * A civilian airstrip was damaged near Rosh Pina Hatzor.
 * Rockets landed in Hatzor.

Notes

 * Hezbollah denied the attack on Haifia but Hezbollah deputy leader Sheik Naim Kassem said they would attack the city with its population of 270,000 if "Beirut or its southern suburbs are attacked,".
 * Nahariya Mayor Jackie Sabag urged residents to stay in their shelters. In Nahariya Hospital patients and pregnant mothers were moved to lower floors and underground shelter.
 * Hezbollah say they have for the first time used a new rocket called "Thunder 1". This rocket are said to be more accurate than the Katyusha rocket the group has used earlier.
 * Israeli ambassador to the United States said the attack on Haifia, Israel's third largest city, was an escalation. "They have more than 10,000 rockets. For them to do this, in Haifa is a major escalation," said Daniel Ayalon.

International reaction
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert had called the first Hezbollah attack on Israel "an act of war." Israel also blamed Iran and Syria for the attacks.

The Palestinian group Hamas described Hezbollah's July 12 attack on Israel "heroic." "This is a heroic operation carried out against military targets and so it is a legitimate operation, especially as it took place in occupied Lebanese territory," said Hamas political bureau member Mohammad Nazzal.

The European Union called Israel's use of force in Lebanon "disproportionate" but demanded Hezbollah release the two Israeli soldiers.

The United Kingdom asked for "restraint on all sides". "We call for the urgent release of the kidnapped Israeli soldiers, and an end to attacks on Israeli towns and cities. And we urge all those countries with influence over Hezbollah and Hamas to play their part," said Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett. But "while Israel is entitled to do what is required to protect its security, it should do so in a way which does not escalate the situation and which is proportionate and measured, conforms to international law, and avoids civilian deaths and suffering."

While a Whitehouse spokesman said America "recognised Israel's right to defend itself", U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice asked Israel to be more restrained. Rice also told Syria to get Hezbollah to stop their attacks on Israel.

Lebanese ministers want a ceasefire with Israel.

The Arab League want an emergency meeting to discuss the Israeli-Lebanon crisis. Yemen asked for an official Arab summit. "We are concerned about an escalation," said an Arab League official.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said that an Israeli strike on Syria would be considered "attacking the whole Islamic world and this regime will receive a very fierce response".

In related news, the United States vetoed a UN condemnation of Israel on Thursday. The draft vetoed was proposed by Qatar and demanded that Israel pulled back its forces from the Gaza Strip.

Economic impact
The turmoil in the Middle East has led to record high prices for oil, which is now trading at $76.70 a barrel.

The stock market in Tel Aviv closed down 4.3 percent on Thursday. The Shekel has also slipped against the dollar.

Other international events are also having it say on stock markets worldwide as investors are keeping their eyes on North Korea and Iran's nuclear ambitions in addition to the situation in the Middle East.

Thomas McIntyre at McIntyre, Freedman & Flynn put it this way: "We're having a complete breakdown in attitude toward the stock market. In a declining market, everything that's wrong in the world seems more important."


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Microsoft and Yahoo! link their instant messaging services

July 13, 2006

Nine months after announcing the interoperability between their instant messaging (IM) services, Internet rivals Microsoft and Yahoo! began limited public beta (pre-release) testing of the program. This enables users of the two services to communicate with each other using their existing IM client, Microsoft's Windows Live Messenger (formerly MSN Messenger) and Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.

Users wishing to use the new feature can go to a special page on the service's website, where they have to review and accept an agreement. After signing out and signing in again, the interoperability is enabled without downloading any new software.

The service is designed to allow users to see each others' online presence, view personal status messages, share select emoticons, view offline messages and add new contacts from either service. However, more advanced features, like voice calls and shared folders are not interoperable between the two services.

The program is available internationally in more than 15 markets.


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Talk:Microsoft and Yahoo! link their instant messaging services

Why MSN?
Doldrums,

I wrote in a previous revision "internet rivals Microsoft and Yahoo!" (OK, I misspelled 'Internet'), which you corrected to "rival Internet portals MSN and Yahoo!".

Why did you change Microsoft to the MSN portal? Windows Live services, like Messenger are meant to be seperate from MSN and the MSN media portal pages, so it's not the MSN portal which began the beta program, but Microsoft (or Microsoft's Windows Live division). --Szajd 12:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * my understanding was that MSN and (of course) Yahoo offered the messenger service. such was the case couple of years ago when i used msn, but may no longer be. if i'm wrong, feel free to correct. Doldrums 12:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I corrected it. Windows Live is the new service set for Microsoft's Internet-related stuff. Some of it are new services, some of them are rebranded and improved versions of previously MSN stuff. MSN.com remains as MSN.com, but is no longer connected to Windows Live.

"Finally?"
"Microsoft, Yahoo! finally link their instant messaging services" seems a little NPOV to me. Anyone into renaming it without the "finally?" Rob T Firefly 15:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree (I guess you meant "non-NPOV"). --Szajd 16:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Microsoft and Yahoo! link their instant messaging services ... amazingly late...
Is there a chance someone will write an article about Cerulean Studios "Trillian Pro"... which has offered users of AIM, ICQ, Yahoo!, MSN, and -recently- Google Talk, to comunicate? Is it only amazing if two corporate giants do it?

 * It is totally different. Trillian lets you to connect to Yahoo!'s service and the .NET Messenger Service (the service WLMess uses) in one application, and provides the same UI for all the services. Whereas, this new joint between MS and Yahoo! lets you add partners and communicate, by only signing in to your favorite service. You don't need to register for a Yahoo! account to add a Yahoo! buddy from WL Messenger, and vice versa. This really is amazing, since both Messenger services are extremely complex in structure, and most probably quite different, but they yould manage to make them interoperate. --Szajd 22:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


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Israeli vessels enter Lebanese waters to enforce blockade

July 13, 2006

Israel's naval ships have entered Lebanon's territorial waters to enforce a blockade on the Levantine state, Thursday.

"Since this morning Israeli naval vessels have enforced a full naval closure on Lebanon, because Lebanon's ports are used to transfer both terrorists and weapons to the terror organizations operating in Lebanon," a spokesman for Israeli Army said.

The spokesman did not comment on whether Israel had also blockaded Lebanon's airspace. However Israeli aircraft attacked Beirut's Rafik al-Hariri International Airport, Thursday morning, which damaged the main runway and forced incoming flights to divert to Cyprus. Israel's Army Radio said that other airports might also be targeted in order to restrict access to Lebanon.

"We will take all necessary measures to bring an end to the rogue behavior of a state that does not assume responsibility and put an end to the activities of a major partner in their own government," said Israeli Cabinet Minister Isaac Herzog to Reuters.

The government in Beirut has said it accepts no responsibility for what Hezbollah claimed was the capture of two Israeli soldiers, in an attack which injured six Israeli civilians. 27 civilians have been killed so far in Israeli raids on Lebanon.


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Elmwood Village Hotel proposal in Buffalo, N.Y. withdrawn

According to the developer Savarino Construction Services Corporation, the proposed Elmwood Village Hotel which would be placed on the corner of Elmwood and Forest Avenues in Buffalo, New York has been withdrawn from the city's Planning Board and Common Council and will undergo a "do over"; however, Eva Hassett, Vice President of Savarino says that the proposal will be resubmitted, from scratch by the end of next week.

The hotel would require the demolition of at least five properties, 1109-1121 Elmwood and would cause the closure of several businesses. Already, two businesses, Skunk Tail Glass and Six Nations Native American Gift Shop have relocated, outside the Elmwood Strip. Don apparel, H.O.D. Tattoo and Mondo Video still remain on Elmwood; however, Mondo Video is planning on moving to a new location. The hotel will be 72 rooms and will cost at least 7 million dollars to build.

"We're lovers, not fighters. Our energies should be spent on developing a really wonderful project, not wasted in court. We'll start over with a clean slate and take as much time as necessary to hear people out and end up with a very positive project for the neighborhood," said President of Savarino Construction, Sam Savarino.

The hotel will not undergo any major changes in its design says Savarino. "We would anticipate little if any physical change to the plans." He also alleges that the issues with the hotel were not with the design or the proposal and also says that the hotel is still right for the intersection. "The perceived problem was with the process, not the proposal itself. We believe this is the right thing to do on that corner," added Savarino.

According to the Buffalo News, the projects resubmission is aimed to "shed the lawsuits" against the proposal. The Buffalo News also claims that the Common Council members are all still "in favor of the project." The proposal was unanimously passed by the council on March 21, 2006.

Attorney Arthur J. Giacalone who represents the plaintiffs, Nancy Pollina and Patricia Morris, who operate Don Apparel (a vintage clothing and collectibles shop at 1119 Elmwood Avenue), Angeline Genovese and Evelyn Bencinich, owners of residences on Granger Place which abut the rear of the proposed site, Nina Freudenheim, a resident of nearby Penhurst Park, and Sandra Girage, the owner of a two-family residence on Forest Avenue less than a hundred feet from the proposed hotel's sole entrance and exit driveway, says that the hotel proposal was "inappropriately rushed," but some council members disagree. Defendants in the lawsuit against the hotel are, Buffalo's Common Council and Planning Board, Mayor of Buffalo, Byron W. Brown, Savarino Construction Services Corporation, Hans J. Mobius and his son Hans S. Mobius owners of the properties at stake, Pano Georgiadis, owner of Pano's Restaurant on Elmwood, and Cendant Corporation, the parent company of Wyndham Hotels, which will be, according to Savarino, the hotel operator. Attorney David State is representing the city, Planning Board, Mayor Byron Brown and the Common Council.

"I don't think it was a rush job," said Dominic J. Bonifacio Jr., the council's Majority Leader. He also alleges that the only way to make "it [the hotel] a better project and ease the concerns of some neighbors would be to find a way to provide more parking."

In an exclusive phone interview with Wikinews, Giacalone states that the lawsuit against the hotel and the city "will not be moved [withdrawn] unless the Common Council resins their [prior] decisions in passing the proposal." Giacalone also says that Savarino has yet to submit any new plans for the proposal to the city. He also says that he "still plans to represent all plaintiffs" if they wish to continue with the suit and the use of his services.

Giacalone rescheduled the preliminary hearing which is "still in place" for July 27, 2006. When asked if the properties are still owned by Mobius, Giacalone replied "yes" and that according to attorney Bob Knoer, the Lawyer representing Hans Mobius, the owner of the properties that could be demolished, there is "no contract between Savarino" and that Mobius "plans to put the properties back on the market." Mobius has not returned phone calls or e-mails and has not yet commented on the situation or the proposal itself. The city denies these claims. In an exclusive phone interview by Wikinews, area councilman Joseph Golombek states that the reason for the resubmission of the proposal was due to "a mistake in the Planning process" and that none of the council members have "indicated that they have changed their opinions on the hotel" and still remain in favor of the project.

"I still think the Hotel is a good idea for that part of Elmwood. For Elmwood to stay strong and vibrant it must continue to grow and adapt to change. It is a different community than it was twenty years ago and will be different in another twenty years. The opponents of the Hotel have the opportunity to challenge it and are doing that. Even though I disagree with them I am glad there is a safety mechanism for people who disagree with government. We need to keep moving forward," added Golombek.

Supporters of the hotel proposal are planning on holding a rally to support the new development. WNYmedia.net claims that the first rally will be held to support the hotel proposal on July 17, 2006 at 5:00 p.m. on Elmwood and Forest, on the site of the proposed location. According to WNYmedia.net they "are tired of the anti development crowd in Western New York." They also blast opponents of the hotel proposal calling them "bananas" and "nimbys." People opposed to the hotel proposal are planning on "counter attacking" with their own protest on the same day and time.


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FIFA launch disciplinary proceedings against Marco Materazzi

July 13, 2006

FIFA has begun disciplinary proceedings against after  was sent off for headbutting Materazzi in the chest. Zidane has said he reacted to provocation.

Both players have been summoned to attend a hearing of its disciplinary committee on Thursday 20 July and a decision is expected later that day.

FIFA said: "The decision was taken following claims made by Zinedine Zidane, who attacked Materazzi with a headbutt during the final."

Zidane has the right to make a written statement, which must be submitted by Tuesday 18 July.

Materazzi will then be given a copy of the statement so he can respond.


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Three die in crash of Canadian Search and Rescue Helicopter

July 13, 2006

A Canadian Forces CH-149 of 413 Squadron based at CFB Greenwood, Nova Scotia crashed while conducting a night training exercise. Killed in the incident were Sgt. Duane Brazil, 39; Master Cpl. Kirk Noel, 33; and Cpl. Trevor McDavid, 31.

The aircraft was conducting a hoist operation at 12:30 AM local time near a Canadian Coast Guard Vessel. The helicopter ditched near the ship and suffered damage to the forward fuselage but remained floating. All seven crew were recovered from the wreckage. In addition to the three killed, four others were taken to hospital. One of the injured was transported by air ambulance to Halifax for further treatment.

The CH-149 is a Canadian designation for the AgustaWestland EH101 built in Italy. Canada purchased 15 for Search and Rescue duties. This is the first fatal crash in Canadian service. The aircraft were previously grounded due to cracks in critical rotor components which were believed to be the cause of the crash of a British Merlin (EH101) in 2004.

The aircraft involved was number 149914 indicating it was the 14th of the 15 aircraft delivered (serials 149901 to 149915).


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Talk:Elmwood Village Hotel proposal in Buffalo, N.Y. withdrawn

Original
The quotes from Joseph Golombek, Area councilman are from e-mails he sent me. Please let me know if ou would like to see them. Jason Safoutin 15:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Arthur Giacalone was interviewed by me over the phone on July 13, 2006. Jason Safoutin 16:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Eva Hassett was also a phone statement. Jason Safoutin 16:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


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Several injured in Ben Nevis cable car accident

July 13, 2006

As many as eight people have been injured after two cable cars collided at the Nevis Range near Fort William in Scotland.

Two RAF helicopters, an air ambulance, four ambulance crews, police, fire brigade and a mountain rescue team are among those present. Police have confirmed that three people have been injured, including one child. Injuries include broken legs, head and chest injuries. The Scottish Ambulance Service have reported that up to seven people had been thrown on to the hillside. A reporter at the scene said one car near the top of the mountain had slid down a cable, hitting another and then one of the cars fell to the ground.

Northern Constabulary have stated "It's understood that two gondolas would appeared to have collided and a number of casualties have been reported. The local mountain rescue team, Inverness helimed and other air support are in attendance to remove casualties".

The Doppelmayr gondola system is made up of eighty six-seat closed cabins running on a continuous 4.6km steel cable.


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Wikinews:Briefs/July 13, 2006

The time is 18:00 (UTC) on July 13th, 2006, and this is Audio Wikinews News Briefs.

Fire fights continue across the Israeli-Lebanese border
Lebanon

Fighting continues today across the Israeli-Lebanese border as Israel continue to pound targets in Lebanon using aircraft and ship launched weapons. In what is claimed as a retaliation to Wednesday's attack by Hezbollah on an Israeli border patrol and the subsequent capture of two Israeli soldiers, Israeli aircraft have launched missiles at the Beirut international airport, which Israel claims is being used to transport weapons and ammunition to Hezbollah, and destroyed the runway.

Israeli vessels enter Lebanese waters to enforce blockade
Israel's naval ships have entered Lebanon's territorial waters to enforce a blockade on the latter country.

Investigation into Mumbai train bombings begins
India

The toll in yesterday's serial bombings on Mumbai's commuter trains has risen to 200 killed, with 714 people injured, according to the official estimate released by the Police. 127 victims have been identified and a further 56 remain unidentified, the estimate said. No group has so far claimed responsibility for the attacks.

Several injured in Ben Nevis cable car accident
Scotland

As many as eight people have been injured after two cable cars collided at the Nevis Range near Fort William in Scotland.

Elmwood Village Hotel proposal in Buffalo, N.Y. withdrawn
United States

According to the developer Savarino Construction Services Corporation, the proposed Elmwood Village Hotel which would be placed on the corner of Elmwood and Forest Avenues in Buffalo, New york has been withdrawn from the city's Planning Board and Common Council and will undergo a "do over".

Microsoft, Yahoo! link their instant messaging services
computers

Nine months after announcing the interoperability between their instant messaging (IM) services, Internet rivals Microsoft and Yahoo! began limited public beta (pre-release) testing of the program.

Closing statements
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Talk:Day of attacks continue in Israel and Lebanon

Safed and Tzfat are the same town
Please don't mention them as two seperate towns. --Jambalaya 20:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Funny, they're spelled very different! :) Ealturner 20:50, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Majdal Qrum, Zirit, Mount Meron
Are these places too small for having "earned" an article on Wikipedia or are they misspelled? --Jambalaya 20:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the complete Bible Of Reality. Those towns exist according to the news report. I took them from the link. Copied and pasted. Ealturner 20:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Beruit International Airport
We need much more detail on this section. Ealturner 20:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

There is so much detail I've changed it to "Lebanon" with BIA as a subheading Ealturner 21:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Linked Sources
I've not put all the links egin the article in the sources section. Intend to do that later. If someone else can do that earlier, great. Ealturner 22:10, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Call for pictures
Would liven up the article. Lots of text there now. Ealturner 22:57, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I've given up finding pictures that fits Wikinews' interpretation of fair use. Let's find a nice gray map. *in irony mode* --Jambalaya 23:12, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I've found some images from wikipedia. Ealturner 23:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

NPOV
The title as well as lede are quite POV in the sense they equalize the attacks which are not equal in either ferocity nor effect; this article as written portrays the enormously more deadly Israeli attacks as being somewhat level with the attacks from the Lebanese and that is simply not accurate nor NPOV, imo. Neutralizer 23:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

 * We're writing the news. That's it. Anything relevant to the day of attacks goes here. Sources are cited, statements attributed. 172.214.209.190 01:36, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

"Israel intensifies attacks against Lebanon AP - 31 minutes ago " Two days of Israeli bombings killed 45 Lebanese and two Kuwaitis and wounded 103" Neutralizer 23:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I was going to say its POV the other way Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 23:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Article "Summary" is entirely Israeli POV
The quotes in the summary (which is at the beginning of the article) are all from the Israeli side (Israeli ambassador and Israeli General) of the conflict even including a "Operation Just Reward" reference. Neutralizer 00:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I did some npoving to the sumary. As the article is breaking I will remove the tag and publish. If its not npov enough feel free to retag. international 01:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC) Changed my mind...

 * What specifically is the problem? Statements are sourced and attributed. Put more in if you want more content. Don't slap a npov tag when it is NPOV. Ealturner 02:01, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

''Israel claim their offensive is in retaliation to Wednesday's attack by Hezbollah on an Israeli border patrol and what Hezbollah called the capture of two Israeli soldiers. Israel said the soldiers - Ehud Goldwasser, 31, and Eldad Regev, 26 - were kidnapped.'' I noticed this was removed. This is attributed (bold) and sourced. There can be no objections to this paragraph on point of view grounds. Statements are attributed. Do not make frivolous objections and disrupt the hard work we're putting in here. Ealturner 02:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Article is NPOV
This article gives both sides. There are plenty of sources and statements have been attributed. Jambalaya, myself and Noop (and others) considered this NPOV. As no major objections have been put forward I will republish. Please highlight the specific parts which require changing. As I said, this article is sourced, statements are attributed etc. This is the news. Ealturner 01:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Frankly I think we have done a very good job with this article. Please respect the hard work into this, the sources, text, editing, NPOV and images, when you make your comments. comments are always welcome but as we have managed to cooperate as a three so far sudden unilateral actions on part of individuals coming late to the article will not be welcome. Ealturner 01:52, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Israels justifications have nothing in the summary to do. They may be in the article together with statements from other parts involved to avoid pov. As my edits were partially reverted I find it best to remain tagged international 02:02, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

The statements are attributed. Israel's motivation is THE NEWS. You have to say it. By all means get Lebanon's side in the summary. Let's get a Lebanon quote in there. Add more news. Ealturner 02:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Okay, I've moved some of what was in the summary to a new "notes" section. Is that okay? Ealturner 02:12, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Good idea, that solved the problem international 02:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Ealturner and everyone else, well done on writing a good article Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 08:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Yay! *Hugs Intenational* (In a manly way) :) Right, Neutralizer, are you happy? Or do you have any suggestions to improve the article? Ealturner 02:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Poorly Written?

 * It's much better now in NPOV terms. However, I would suggest that it be re-written as it seems to need a **Cleanup|badly written,disjointed and cumbersome** tag but I won't place the tag. I did some grammatical correction work but it needs a whole lot more I think. I do not think it is well written at all in its current state but I don't want to re-write the whole article just to see it reverted. Maybe some less involved editors can have a look. Neutralizer 04:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

lebanese and hezbollah reactions
"By all means get Lebanon's side in the summary. Let's get a Lebanon quote in there. Add more news."

 * -- Ealturner 02:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC) (above)

fwiw, following is the list of statements from lebanese and hezbollah leaders, combed from the sources already listed in the article, which have not been reported in our article.

 * 1) Meanwhile, the Lebanese government has demanded that the UN convene an emergency session to discuss the Israeli offensive. (2. ynet)
 * 2) Naim Qasem, Hezbollah's deputy secretary-general, said Thursday that Hezbollah members have the right to remain on "any part of Lebanese soil." "We intend to send a clear message that we wish not to escalate this conflict by killing civilians," Qasem said. "But we know that Israel will not stop its aggression until it feels pain. Therefore, they should learn from what happened today. They have failed to protect their cities and their civilians." Nasrallah has defended the abductions of 31-year-old Ehud Goldvasser and 26-year-old Eldad Regev as Hezbollah's "natural, only and logical right." He further said that the soldiers had been taken "far away" and that no Israeli military campaign would secure their release. Nasrallah wants to enter negotiations on a prisoner exchange, a demand Israel has rebuffed, saying it would encourage more kidnappings. (4. cnn)
 * 3) A Lebanese cabinet minister said the Israeli response was disproportionate (6. bbc)
 * 4) Hizbollah, which is backed by Iran and Syria, said it had fired 60 rockets at Nahariya "in response to the massacres of civilians in the south and assaults on infrastructure". (9. reuters)
 * 5) Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora has said his government did not endorse the Hizbollah attack.  (9. reuters)
 * 6) Hizbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah said the two soldiers had been seized to force Israel to release prisoners. (9. reuters)

the quotes that we did get in are
 * 1) Hezbollah denied the attack on Haifia but Hezbollah deputy leader Sheik Naim Kassem said they would attack the city with its population of 270,000 if "Beirut or its southern suburbs are attacked,".
 * 2) Lebanese ministers want a ceasefire with Israel.

Doldrums 08:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Operation Just Reward
Israel's self titled name for its attack is offensive self-serving propaganda and adds nothing to the article. It is not newsworthy and I think it should not be publicized in a NPOV article. Neutralizer 13:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * it is the official name and shld be mentioned. to emphasize it, or give it undue weight, or state that the name is the correct interpretation of Israel's actions is pov. incidentally, the original hezbollah raid was called "Operation True Promise". Doldrums 13:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok; then we should also report the Hezbollah name for its attack; do you have a source? I will look for it. Neutralizer 13:56, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * think i do, hang on... here
 * Ok; found it; operation "truthful promise". I'll put in in. Thanks. Neutralizer 13:59, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, now that we know both propaganda terms we can report both as part of a npov story, it seems to me. However,if Ealturner wants to put them both into "notes" that's fine with me but I don't see a reference to the term "propaganda" in the sources so we need to leave that out of the actual article,I think. Neutralizer 14:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I added the term propaganda. It's not needed now. I support the decision to find the name for Hezbollah's attack. I didn't know there was one. Ealturner 14:16, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:KatyusharocketsKeivmuseum.jpg
Please replace Image:KatyusharocketsKeivmuseum.jpg with Image:Katyusha rockets closeup.jpg and delete the local copy as now on Commons. Adambro (talk) 23:04, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ --SVTCobra 22:56, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


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White House accepts judicial review of NSA eavesdropping

July 13, 2006

The US President George W. Bush agreed to sign a bill that would allow for a limited judicial review of the National Security Agency's  controversial eavesdropping program, said the Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter (R). A White House spokeswoman also confirmed the same.

Sen. Specter said that the bill will clear the way for a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court to "consider the program as a whole and to make a decision on it." Under the "Terrorist Surveillance Program", NSA conducts surveillance on international and domestic phone calls without FISA court authorization, an action the text of the FISA act calls a Felony. The Bush administration maintains that the program is legal, arguing that FISA is an unconstitutional violation of the President's "inherent powers" and/or that FISA was implicitly overridden by other acts of Congress. Revelation of the program by a New York Times newsreport triggered a controversy over the legality of the program and the scope of Congressional oversight.

The Senate Judiciary Committee is currently considering two bills proposed respectively by Sen. Specter and Sen. Mike DeWine (R) over the issue. The Specter bill provides for retroactive amnesty for NSA's actions and brings the program under the FISA court, whereas the DeWine bill provides a legislative foundation for the program.

Sen. Specter said that the bill will allow greater flexibility in emergencies by updating legal language to reflect recent technological developments such as cell phones, allowing NSA a seven day period for obtaining retroactive warrants and allowing "roving wiretaps" which target an individual rather than a particular phone connection. He added that the bill will require government officials to explain why they suspect intercepted communications involve terrorism and creates penalties for misuse of the powers.

Sen. Patrick Leahy (D), the Judiciary Committee's ranking Democrat said that the proposed bill is an "interesting bargain" in which the President "is saying 'if you do every single thing I tell you to do,' I will do what I should have done anyway,". Sen. Charles Schumer (D) is reported to have proposed a different bill.


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North Carolina to see minimum wage increase

July 16, 2006

North Carolina Governor Mike Easley signed into law a new minimum wage for the U.S. state Thursday. The increase of US$1 will raise the rate to US$6.15. Easley said that the new law will make it easier for North Carolinians to deal with the rising cost of living. The new law will become effective on January 1 next year. This is the first raise to the North Carolina minimum wage in nearly nine years.

Last Sunday in Pennsylvania, Governor Ed Rendell signed into law a phased-in US$2 minimum wage increase. For businesses with 10 employees or more, the rate will increase by US$1 on January 1 next year, then increase by another dollar on July 1.

"Signing this bill into law gives me personal gratification," said Rendell to cheering crowd of minimum wage workers at the signing ceremony in Philadelphia. The last time Pennsylvania made a change to the federally mandated minimum was in 1988.

Recent state level legislative initiatives to raise the minimum wage have failed in 18 U.S. states, according to the National Restaurant Association.

A total of 20 other U.S. states — Alaska, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and Wisconsin, plus the District of Columbia — have raised the minimum above the federal mandate.

The U.S. Fair Labor Standards Act, enacted in 1938, has been continuously amended by Congress over years with increases that make the federally mandated minimum wage what it is today, US$5.15 per hour. The last time the federal government raised the rate was in 1997.


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Good luck too,
... some corn-pom fer ya'... ya'll com back now hear? -Edbrown05 07:36, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Jimmy Wales to Beijing Fascists: Wikipedia won't censor

Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales has refused to censor the content on the Chinese version of Wikipedia, resulting in its being blocked by the Chinese government. Google, Yahoo and others have folded to demands from Beijing's totalitarian bureaucrats, but Wikipedia has stood firm. Predictably, Beijing has come to Wikipedia to ask them for some kind of peace-treaty, because China can ill-afford to block critical information resources if it is to remain economically strong. If only Google and Yahoo's executives were as confident in the importance of their services as Wales is of Wikipedia. Wales said censorship was ' antithetical to the philosophy of Wikipedia. We occupy a position in the culture that I wish Google would take up, which is that we stand for the freedom for information, and for us to compromise I think would send very much the wrong signal: that there's no one left on the planet who's willing to say "You know what? We're not going to give up."' Wikipedia's entry on the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 includes the government's official claim that 200-300 died and the Chinese student associations and Chinese Red Cross's estimate of 2,000-3,000 deaths.

Wales said: 'I think it's an interesting question whether they're prepared to understand the difference between advocating one set of figures or another versus simply reporting on what the controversy is. I can understand that they would be upset - although of course I still don't think they have any moral right to ban anything - if we were pushing one set of figures in contrast to their objections, but if we are reporting both, to me that's exactly what an encyclopaedia should do and they should be comfortable with that.'

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I can't use Cowicide to communicate with other users, it was permanently banned without a vote (and with dissent in the community) by Mrmiscellanious who is currently not an administrator or even an active contributer here. He was stripped of his admin status shortly after permabanning me without consensus because he was determined by the community (through a vote) to be unworthy of admin status.

Can you please show me where there was any kind of vote to permanently ban Cowicide? Also, once again, I can't use a "legitimate account" as you say because I cannot edit with my legitimate account because of Mrmiscellanious' illegitimate action action against me. BTW, this is the same IP address that I used before if you check in the History that will confirm it. I urge you to perform a checkuser on anyone that claims to be Cowicide including this IP address and you'll see that I did not ever commit any vandalism. It was sockpuppets trying to set me up and apparently they succeeded... but, once again... I don't see a vote on this anywhere and the one person who inflicted the permaban on Cowicide is not an admin or even a contributer at wikinews.

Anyway, you offer me nothing but a catch-22 here. How can I use my "legitimate" Cowicide account to communicate with others and appeal my ban, if I cannot use the Cowicide account to make any edits? 67.190.61.6 11:34, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Even blocked users can edit their talk-pages so you should be able to communicate as Cowicide so long as your talk is not protected. Community consensus is not always necessary for a ban, although the opinions of other editors may be taken into consideration. If you wish, I could start a thread about this on WN:ALERT or you could opt for Arbitration (in which case you will probably be temporarily unblocked) to have your concerns addressed. Zeest(Talk)(Newpages) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 11:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Thank you. Yes, if you could start a thread that would be cool unless you think Arbitration would be better?  I don't want to take up much of anyone's time, so whichever you think is more appropriate is fine by me...  I just wish a checkuser would be performed.. I think the results may shock some here who thought I was the vandal when it was in fact an imposter trying to get me banned and/or help "steer" the community against Cowicide.  While I admit I can be cantankerous at times, I'm not a vandal; it's beneath me.  Thanks again for your response. 67.190.61.6 09:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * User:Cowicide has now been unblocked, so you may use that account. Best of luck, and stay out of trouble. Zeest(Talk)(Newpages) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 11:37, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Wow, that was quick! Thanks! : ) ... I'll stop using this IP thing. Trouble?  I'm here for the girls... not trouble. ; )  67.190.61.6 09:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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Hezbollah-Israel war continues for a third day

July 14, 2006

The fighting continues as Israel launches a fresh wave of attacks on Lebanese targets Friday, striking Beirut's International airport, the road from Lebanon to Damascus and a power plant. Since Wednesday, Hezbollah have fired over 300 rockets into towns in northern Israel, killing four civilians and wounding dozens. Hezbollah rockets reached as far south as the port city of Haifa.

Lebanon said on Friday that Israel had launched "a widespread barbaric aggression" with the intention of hurting Lebanon. The country urged the United Nations community to stop the military offensive. "The targets chosen are connected either directly or indirectly with terrorism," Israeli Air Force General Ido Nehushtan, said.

The Israeli attacks included the southern suburb of Beirut where Israel says Hezbollah has a stronghold. Most roads and bridges leading to the southern suburb of Beirut have been shelled, isolating the suburb from the rest of the country. The attacks came after Israeli planes dropped leaflets on the evening of July 13, warning residents in the mainly Shiite south suburb of impending attacks to Hezbollah property.

Israel says Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, the Hezbollah leader, is also a target. "Nasrallah has issued his own sentence." said Ronnie Bar-On, the Israeli interior minister. The home and headquarters of Hezbollah's spiritual leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah was hit by Israeli missiles, but Nasrallah and his nearest were unhurt in the attack. Nasrallah said in a televised address after the attack that Hezbollah is ready for an "open war" with Israel.

This comes after Ehud Olmert said Lebanon had committed an "act of war" when Hezbollah attacked Israel.

"You wanted an open war and we are ready for an open war", Nasrallah said in the broadcast. "You have chosen an all-out war with a nation which ... has the capability, the experience and the courage." He continued saying that Lebanon would either surrender or "have faith in Allah and victory".

The Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora described the conflict as a "controlled war" and called it an opportunity to address the Israel-Palestine conflict.

Five civilians were killed and at least 50 have been wounded in Lebanon on Friday after Israeli attacks. According to Lebanon, 63 people have been killed and 167 wounded in the country since the raids commenced on Wednesday.

The Israeli military and Israel's ambassador to the UN said that the rockets fired into Haifa on Thursday by Hezbollah were manufactured in Iran. Lebanese PM Siniora said that it was puzzling for Hezbollah to perform the attacks unsupported.

States worldwide have called for the release of the prisoners and for Israel to exercise restraint, while Lebanon has urged the UN Security Council, which held an emergency meeting on Friday, to pass a ceasefire resolution.

Lebanon's UN envoy, Nouhad Mahmoud, claimed that Israel's attacks on Lebanon "will not resolve the problem, but will further complicate it. The Security Council meets today in the shadow of a widespread barbaric aggression waged by Israel to this very moment against my nation," he said. "What Israel is undertaking is an act of aggression and devastation aimed at bringing Lebanon to its knees and subverting it by any means."

Israel's chief of staff, Dan Halutz, said Friday that all three soldiers were alive and in a "reasonable" state of health.

Lebanon
Israeli planes targeted a headquarters of Hezbollah in Beirut and destroyed the building. Hezbollah's spiritual leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah and his family are said to be safe.

The tarmac on Beirut International Airport was patched up after being hit several times by the Israeli air force on Thursday. Five airplanes belonging to Middle East Airlines then took off from the airport heading to Cyprus.

In addition, a private plane owned by former Lebanese Prime Minister Najib Mikati took off with the former PM onboard. Assurances were given by Fuad Siniora, the Lebanese prime minister, that they would not be attacked. It was reported that the United States had helped broker a no-attack deal.

However, the runways were hit again on Friday some time after the airplanes had taken off. A parking lot near the terminal building was also hit.

Other targets hit in Lebanon included a fuel tank at the power plant in Jiyyeh. Power shortages have been reported. The Hezbollah radio station al-Nour was targeted by an Israeli strike, but continued broadcasting. Also, a road between Haboush and Iqlion el Tufah was hit.

A total of 18 targets claimed by Israel to be Hezbollah sites have been hit by air and sea launched missiles. The Israeli military said they attacked Hezbollah outposts in south Lebanon, a facility for weapons-storage and three gas stations south of Sidon.

Five explosions were reported in Beirut late Friday.

Up to 17 000 Lebanese civilians have been escaping the country bound for Syria through the Masnaa crossing. Even though the main road between Beirut and Damascus have been repeatedly targeted by Israel in the last 24 hours, that didn't hinder people as they arrived on foot and by car. "We have become refugees", a woman said on her way crossing the border. The two countries have eased border crossing procedures and deployed extra staff.

An Israeli navy ship was severely damaged after being hit by an explosives-packed UAV launched by Hezbollah. The ship was 16 km from the Lebanese coast when it was hit. This is a new, previously unused tactic by the militant group. They have however tested such drones twice in recent years. Four Israeli sailors were reportedly being searched for after the attack.

The strike on the ship was seemingly timed with Hezbollah leader Nasrallah's broadcast. In it he said: "The surprises that I have promised you will start now. Now in the middle of the sea, facing Beirut, the Israeli warship ... look at it burning".

A second ship was hit by a rocket past midnight. Reports say it was a civilian merchant ship, but its nationality was not immediately identified.

Israel
In related news, Hezbollah fired several rockets in five separate attacks into northern Israel, Friday. Packs of Katyusha rockets hit Nahariya, Safed, Hatzor, Pqui'in, Kiryat Shmona, Karmiel, Matat and Yesod Hamaalah. Two civilians in the northern Israeli town of Miron were killed and casualties were reported all over the Galil.

Later on Friday, more rockets were fired into northern Israel.

Background
This was the third day of violence after July 11 when Hezbollah attacked Israeli army patrols and captured two Israeli soldiers in a mission Hezbollah called "Truthful Promise". Israel confirmed the soldiers were kidnapped. On July 12 Israel set up a blockade of Lebanon and attacked Beirut International Airport and other areas in Lebanon, while Hezbollah fired rockets at towns in northern Israel.

Israel is continuing its offensive in the Gaza strip against Hamas after a soldier named Gilad Shalit was kidnapped in a raid in June.


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PCC promotes new wave of attacks in Brazil

July 24, 2006 The criminal organization known as the PCC (Primeiro Comando da Capital, Portuguese for First Command of the Capital City) is promoting a new wave of attacks against civil and authority targets in Brazil beginning early July. The main attacks are occurring in São Paulo state.

According to the Secretary of Public Security of São Paulo, from 22:00 of Tuesday (11, 01:00 Wednesdays UTC) until the beginning of the evening of Thursday(13), 102 criminal actions against a whole of 118 different targets have been carried out: 65 buses were put on fire, 16 banks, 2 supermarkets and several other buildings were shot or attacked with bombs. The attacks are occurring in the state's capital São Paulo and at least 18 cities of the interior.

The Secretary of Public Security of São Paulo reports 6 deaths among civilian and police officers.


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Comments?
Please place your comments here. Let's also keep it civil. Our intention is to work on a collaborative news project so let's work together. :) Ealturner 12:17, 14 July 2006 (UTC) [14/07 - 14:13:43] something else. [another source] [14/07 - 14:09:51] someone else denied [another source] [14/07 - 14:06:32] someone claimed something happened somewhere. [source]88.110.244.183 19:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Question: is it possible to maintain on this or another article, a timeline with events that are really confusing here. What I'm thinking of is something like

 * 1) no comments or rebuttals from lebanon or hezbollah in article. Doldrums 12:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) lebanese source(s?):

 * RE: The captured vs kidnapped thing. Israel has described the soldiers as being kidnapped. Hezbollah describe the soldiers as captured. It's silly if you ask me but to be NPOV we have to be careful how we use these words. Ealturner 12:40, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * kidnap implies illegality, capture neither does nor doesn't. so it makes sense to stick to capture, unless the illegality of the capture is is upheld by legal procedures or someone's claim of illegality is being reported. in short, "soldiers were captured", "israel said soldiers were kidnapped", " deemed it to be kidnapping" are all ok. Doldrums 12:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Israel says Hezbollah is an illegal organisation so, on the other hand, capture would imply an element of legitimacy to those who have captured. It is best to attribute these statements - with words like "claim" and "said" - to avoid argument that wikinews is siding with one interpretation. Ealturner
 * question is, are soldiers in military action "kidnapped" or "captured"? does it depend upon the formal status ("state sanctioned armed forces" vrs "militia") of the "kidnappers"? "capture" is neutral on legality, but perfectly describes the event, which is why it's appropriate to use. the current formulation (state and attribute both) is a reasonable, but lengthier alternative. Doldrums 13:01, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Or is the question, was the Hezbollah raid a military action? Israel says no. Israel says there is no essential difference would the soldiers have been attacked at their posts by a bunch of criminals from inside Israel. Thus they use the term kidnapped. From the Israeli POV captured is not neutral as it implies the men were taken by non-criminals. Ealturner 13:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * israel is free to use whatever term they fancy. my point is that "capture" is appropriate for us to use, because it is neutral as to legality (it neither implies legality, nor illegality).Doldrums 13:44, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Israel would say Hezbollah is free to use its own terms. Wikinews is neutral to their feud. A word is by definition not neutral if one side objects to its use. I will concede on fact grounds that "capture" can be defended. Okay, I will concede ground to you here, you made your point well. :) But Israel's POV will need to be added because they, and also some other states*, have gone on record to say the soldiers were, I quote "kidnapped". UK and US. Al-jazeera also used the term "kidnapped" in a news report. I don't think it's as big a deal as we're making out. But if it offends people we as wikinews have to tred carefully. Ealturner 13:54, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Great, I'll add those sources to the article if you haven't already. The Daily Star source refers to thursday so I'll add the details to yesterday's article. Ealturner 12:40, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * remember to not add substantial content to previosuly published article. "wikinews is not a work in progress" or somthing... Doldrums 12:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * With the exception when there's a breaking news tag. I don't think it counts as substantial content as the article already mentions other parts of the Lebanon communications infrastructure were hit. Ealturner 12:57, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * now that an update article is being written (& published!), the previous article is no longer breaking! and indeed, the tag has been removed, if i remember. Doldrums 13:01, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * That's true I still think the news was relevant. It's only a day and it did not change what was written, rather it added more detail. I thought that was okay, if it's not, my mistake. I will not do so next time. Ealturner 13:44, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

response to Nehushtan
we need to see if there is a response or rebuttal to this statement in the article. "The targets chosen are connected either directly or indirectly with terrorism, Israeli Air Force General Ido Nehushtan, said." Doldrums 14:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Please leave your ID by putting ~ four wiggly lines at the end of your post. Welcome to wikinews and good point! Someone might disagree with that quote so we should look for any other quote on the reasons that concern Israel's targetting. Ie. are they deliberatley attacking civilians? Ealturner 14:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * hmmm Doldrums 14:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Splitting up into sections
We may have to split the story into several sections to give better overview for the reader. Viewpoints? --Jambalaya 14:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Since no opinions have been voiced, I've added some sections to improve readability. --Jambalaya 17:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

soo much discussion
if there's goiing to be so much discussion, we shld probably do it on the IRC channel ("Live chat" on top of page). save a few edit conflicts. Doldrums 14:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Good idea, I'm checking that out now. Ealturner 14:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * doesn't appear to be working... Doldrums 14:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

took a while, I'm on there now Ealturner 14:14, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Operation titles
The "Operation Just Reward" and "Operation Truthful Promise" attack names are pure propaganda like "Operation Iraqi Freedom",imo, and not news; but it seems I am in the minority. Neutralizer 14:19, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I understand your view so one mention is probably enough (in the last article). After that it's "not new" and not news, no need to mention it here. We don't need to keep using the phrases. Ealturner 14:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree. Can't stand those military euphemisms anyway :-) --Jambalaya 14:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * so we document it (so if someone twenty years later searches for it) and then ignore it. Doldrums 14:29, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good course of action; we can call it "Operation Just Document".:) Neutralizer 14:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Hm, is "Operation Truthful Promise" a name Hezbollah came up with? I didn't think Middle Eastern militants named their attacks like the western world do? --Jambalaya 14:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * It was news. Now it's not. Obviously don't censor the word - eg. if it's an important part of a quote - but when it's not necessary don't use them unless we're agreed. Also it might be a style issue as well as POV to have to work both Operation names in when you mention one. Ealturner 14:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Jambalaya - good point. If we can find the arabic of it we should put the arabic in with it. Ealturner 14:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I removed the word "Operation" since it looks like the correct title is just "Truthful Promise". --Jambalaya 14:44, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Images
This image was removed for questions over license status. Putting it here in case questions clear up satisfactorily and we don't forget image. Ealturner 15:02, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Need a source on this
I want a source on the following information: "Five airplanes belonging to Middle East Airlines, and one owned by Najib Mikati, the former Lebanese prime minister, were evacuated to Cyprus after assurances were given to Fuad Siniora, the Lebanese prime minister, that they would not be attacked."

Reuters said four _empty_ planes took off, so this sounds like a conspiracy theory. Removing it until it is sourced. --Jambalaya 16:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * al-jazeera article listed in sources sez so. Doldrums 16:54, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, it's back in. --Jambalaya 16:59, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Good work, again, Jambalaya. :) As for the title change I'm not sure. No official declaration of war has been made. "Fight" might be better. Ealturner 17:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * al-jazeera has a strong POV, I wouldn't trust them unless another, more objective source reports it aswell.TiB 17:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * bull. Doldrums 18:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I have to say, that is a very clever, well thought out response. Thank you for enlightening us.TiB
 * anytime. for less clever, less well thought responses see, , , ,  (ok, with the last one, looks like i'm getting carried away). Doldrums 19:35, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you Doldrums, This time seriously, I've learned something I didn't know. I will start reading them and hopefully I will come to the same conclusion you have.TiB
 * and sorry about the initial comment. u kind of hit a sore nerve. Doldrums 03:46, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, from what I read on CNN.com, it seems like the Middle East Airlines planes were empty, but an additional private plane with the former PM took off after the United Stated brokered a deal (with Israel?) that let the planes take off before the airport tarmac again was holed out by Israeli planes. Intriguing. --Jambalaya 17:52, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Title change/definition of "war"
On an ongoing fight there are no strikers and retaliators, only continued fighting. no side has stopped fighting so no one can resume. I believe this title is more appropriate.TiB 15:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I might have messed up trying to update the rename on the main page, but I think its ok. sorry about that.TiB 16:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Is it a war?

 * I like the idea but not sure it's right. What's your reason why it's a war? No official declaration has been made. Ealturner 17:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I think this qualifies for a "war". A "war" does not nescessary have to be an armed conflict between two or more sovereign states. Since Israel and Hezbollah are constantly firing back at each other this weighs in on a "war". Besides, the Hezbollah leader has recently declared an "open war" on Israel and Lebanese PM called it earlier today a "controlled war". --Jambalaya 18:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't mind "war" being used in the title, but if you want to use the term I think you need to start introducing the quotes from parties calling it a war in the first two paragraphs. For me this is the first this has been referred to as such, and who has declared it as a war is important, as is how - eg, has someone said it is a "holy war" or such? --Brian McNeil / talk 19:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 *  Can I also raise a POV objection. If this is a "war" then "Israel-Hezbollah war continues for a third day" suggests it is Israel that started the war. It should more accurately read "Hezbollah-Israel war continues for a third day". Ealturner 20:35, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Bombing an other country angainst the explicit will of the bombed country is war. Even without writing "war" on the bombs. --Migello 20:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Hezbollah leader vows 'open war' It seems to me Hezbollah is the open aggressor. They attacked first. Now they're using the word "war". It should be Hezbollah-Israel war. Ealturner 20:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Or Israel-Lebanon war? --Migello 20:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Irano-Syrian-Proxy-Hezbollah-Israeli-US-Lebanon-US war to give it its fuller title. Ealturner 20:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Comment; Who started first is a matter of one's POV. Palestinian children on a beach were killed by an Israeli missle weeks before before any kidnappings happened. May I suggest that we all refrain from our own POV as to who we think is the "open aggressor" or "attacked first"; it's argumentative and distracting ,imo, and will not help us achieve NPOV. Neutralizer 20:57, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, since Hezbollah are part of the Lebanon government, and they attacked Israel - a sovereign state - first, that would be Lebanon-Israel war Migello, surely? Ealturner 21:01, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * If you give this sense to the first party named. --Migello 21:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Sorry I don't understand you. Of course it could be said, is it a political order or alphabetical? The problem with Israel-Hezbollah is it reverses the alphabet order and makes it look Hezbollah is second because they were hit first, not second, as the case was. Hezbollah-Israel might make alphabetical sense as well as factual sense if this is a "war". And there are still open questions whether this is a war. I'm not convinced. Ealturner 21:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I am not convinced either. See title is fine section. No formal declaration of war has been made on either sides. Jason Safoutin 21:34, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't mind "war" being used in the title, but if you want to use the term I think you need to start introducing the quotes from parties calling it a war in the first two paragraphs. Brian McNeil
 * This is the key test Ealturner 21:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I've moved up the paragraph with Nasrallah's declaration of war and added Lebanese PM's "controlled war" quote. --Jambalaya 21:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Now we need one from one final party - Israel Ealturner 21:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Olmert's "Act of War" quote to describe Lebanon's action? That's not an annoucement of war is it? That's saying someone else is at war on you. Views... Ealturner 21:43, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree Ealturner. Jason Safoutin 21:47, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I read in a Jerusalem Post article that the Israeli military is using some sort of a "war room" in Tel Aviv. Just mentioning it :-)--Jambalaya 21:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I've added this "This comes after Ehud Olmert said Lebanon had committed an "act of war". I don't think this is enough to use war in the title though because it's not a quote of Israel making an act of war. But to be honest, it's very confusing. On the one hand they blame a sovereign state. On the other they say they're going after Hezbollah, a criminal gang of terrorists. I might shift into the "war" is okay word camp. Ealturner 21:57, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia's definition of "war" : "War is a conflict involving the organized use of weapons and physical force by states or other large-scale groups. Warring parties usually hold territory, which they can win or lose; and each has a leading person or organization which can surrender, or collapse, thus ending the war. Until the end of World War II, participants usually issued formal declarations of war."

Formal declaration of war is sooooo 1945 then ;-P --Jambalaya 22:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Title is just fine
Please leave it be; we don't need another renaming "war". Neutralizer 20:58, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Good point and good pun! MyName 21:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The word war in the title is NOT right. For one, neither groups or governments have made a formal declaration of war. Jason Safoutin 21:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * That is my basic position too Ealturner 21:20, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * There was never an official declaration of war for "Operation Iraqi Freedom" either. But everyone refers to that as a war. MyName 21:47, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * "War on Terror"? :-p --Jambalaya 21:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * formal declaration of war? Which century are you talking about? --Migello 22:02, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Ya. Vietnam war, no declaration, just Tonkin Gulf Resolution. :) MyName 22:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * declarations were used, to define the state without or before using weapons. In the end of WWII tens of states declared war against Germanay and Japan. --Migello 22:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Jason Safoutin/DragonFire1024: Why are you so passionate about the title in the first place? Have you even contributed to this story? --Jambalaya 22:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

NPOV
Here are the problems I see. The actual article only presents the Israeli position/justifications and almost exclusively quotes from Israeli spokespeople.

"The targets chosen are connected either directly or indirectly with terrorism," Israeli Air Force General Ido Nehushtan, said.

''' "Nasrallah has issued his own sentence." said Ronnie Bar-On, the Israeli interior minister.'''

The Israeli military and Israel's ambassador to the UN said that the rockets fired into Haifa on Thursday by Hezbollah were manufactured in Iran.

Israel's chief of staff, Dan Halutz, said Friday

There is only one quote from Hezbollah and that one does not address the Israeli actions.Neutralizer 21:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I'll see if I can find some more Hezbollah and Lebanese quotes. However, I've noticed that there are few named Hezbollah/Lebanese officials to quote. Most of them are unnamed and sometimes anonymous. --Jambalaya 21:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Is this perhaps just the Israeli propaganda machine working better than anyone else's, if so we may have to put countering quotes in a new article to keep news timely. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I have to go out but will join Jambalaya's search later. Could simply be it's not safe for the Hezbollah crowd to come out of hiding so we may just be stuck with the Israeli side of the story for now. I'll look for something from Syria and Iran when I get back. Neutralizer 21:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I have a quote from the Hezbollah leader. He vows "open war" on Israel source Ealturner 21:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Yeah, it's already in WN's story :-) --Jambalaya 21:28, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I am disappointed that noone found out or reported that at the UN many,many hours ago the Lebanese envoy made comments which could've helped NPOV this one-sided article. We should not be publishing one-sided articles which seem to publish rationalle for killing civilians as long as you drop some leaflets first. I don't think that is NPOV. Neutralizer 00:42, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Hezbollah UAV
Give a shout if somebody find out what this drone/UAV thing Hezbollah used on the ship is. (Or better yet, add the details to the story :p) --Jambalaya 21:29, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Only report I've yet seen. More news to come I suspect. Ealturner 21:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Hezbollah-Israel
If Hezbollah began the "war" they should be mentioned first. H is also before I in the alphabet. Ealturner 22:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I is before L, but reverse is fine too. --Migello 22:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I is before L, but I figured changing Hezbollah to Lebanon would be another argument. Given you don't mind the change and the change makes sense on both alphabetical and chronological reasons I'll now change the title. (Let that "whole other argument" commence!)Ealturner 22:12, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * We must not call or even imply that this is a war between Lebanon and Israel. There have not been a single clash between government Lebanese forces and Israeli forces. All skirmishes have been between IDF and Hezbollah, which happen to be based in southern Lebanon where Lebanon's goverment does not have control over the militant group. --Jambalaya 22:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Actually, I think this wrong. It should be Lebanon-Israel.

UN Security resolution 1559 2 September 2004. UN 1559 calls on Lebanon to disarm Lebanese and non Lebanese militias. Lebanon did not do this, evident in the attack on Israel. Lebanon breaks UN1559 so it is Lebanon not Hezbollah that is responsible to the International Community for the attack. It should be Lebanon-Israel Ealturner 22:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, but again; the conflict is not between the states of Lebanon and Israel. --Jambalaya 22:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

It's a mess isn't it? :) What do you think of this then?

''Olmert said Israel wouldn't halt its offensive in Lebanon until the militant group was disarmed. He made the comment in a telephone conversation with U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, Israeli government officials said.''

Probably needs a new story. Pretty significant. Ealturner 22:35, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

We should wait calling it a Lebanon-Israeli war until Olmert or IDF says "against Lebanon" instead of "in Lebanon" --Jambalaya 22:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * OK. Let's wait for the first lebanon casulties. --Migello 16:26, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

News tickers
I would like to recommend these tickers from the Israeli newspapers Haaretz Daily and Jerusalem Post for the very latest news. I've noticed the one from Haaretz isn't always accessible, but there's one a ticker the site's homepage too. --Jambalaya 23:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I suggest they are blatant POV sources and suggest they be ignored as such. Neutralizer 00:45, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

 * The good thing about these is that they state the source if one want to investigate the matter further.

 * If I hadn't looked at the news tickers right now, I would have missed the information about a second boat hit by rockets fired from shore. Information which I am gonna add in the article right now. So they ARE useful and I'm gonna continue using them to stay on top of recent developments in this conflict. (They are of course not my only tool for finding related news!) --Jambalaya 00:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Jambalaya, they look very good. Ealturner 09:57, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Follow-up story for Saturday
I've made a sketchy follow-up article for Saturday here. --Jambalaya 02:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Added information about the type of rockets fired, casualty information and some sources. I think its ready for publishing. TiB 12:35, 15 July 2006 (UTC)