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Wikinews:Water cooler/policy/archives/2010/January

Language/image warnings
Should Wikinews give warnings (but not remove or otherwise censor) on pages that display images such as this one? (Note - potentially disturbing photograph)

(this was brought up at the WC a few months ago, but the discussion stalled due to lack of input.) I recently stumbled upon language. It doesn't seem to have been used in any of our articles, but I was wondering whether we should start using it. I know that many professional news organisations place notices on articles that might have potentially offensive words. Although we do not censor for expletives, perhaps we should consider doing so as well (and perhaps use similar notices for articles with potentially disturbing/offensive images)? I was thinking that, since many people find it unpleasant to stumble upon text with profanity or graphic images, it would be nice to warn them of this and give them a chance not to scroll down. Open to thoughts. Tempodivalse [talk]  21:23, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Have we ever published articles with profanity? Benny the mascot (talk) 21:44, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

 * yes Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:46, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I see...I don't think it's appropriate to flag potentially offensive material. Where are we going to draw the line between profanity and acceptable language? "Stupid" is generally acceptable but can be considered offensive among preschoolers, for example. The same applies to other words that may have varying levels of offensiveness in different parts of society. Benny the mascot (talk) 22:15, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikinews is not censored; and, they're just words and what does it matter if people find them offensive? If someone uses them, it's part of the news, we report it. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:20, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm of the opinion it might be appropriate in articles with very disturbing images/text (a swear word is not enough imho. A graphic description of a violent crime might be, the pictures related to Abu Ghraib torture stuff, etc). Bawolff ☺☻ 00:45, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Words? Never. See Marquis de Sade. "snuff"-type images? Possibly. Abu Ghraib, as far as leaked images I saw went, no; there were no images that I found particularly disturbing after I'd read text on the torture. If a warning label should have gone anywhere it was on the individuals responsible so they could be recognised as "deeply offensive". --Brian McNeil / talk 00:52, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree most profanity probably isn't enough to warrant a notice as the meaning of what is "offensive" can be rather subjective (except maybe the f-bomb); the content disclaimer probably should cover everything. I saw this being used at the Russian Wikipedia recently, that gave me an idea I thought I'd just throw out here for consideration anyway. (Although, we have used language warnings occasionally in the past, for instance at Teräsbetoni frontman J. Ahola on representing Finland at Eurovision 2008 & more). Image warnings, I think, are something we could look into more, e.g. the torture stuff is definitely not something I would want to accidentally stumble upon when casually browsing through articles; I would appreciate a courtesy notice on pages with pictures like that. Tempodivalse [talk]  04:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I doubt I'd leave a warning like that nowadays. The key image example I can think of is that Virgin Killer thing, where we ran with an image supposedly illegal in a Western jurisdiction without any warning. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 10:31, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think that's an instance where a warning would have been appropriate. Another idea, we could post notices next to external links that contain graphic content, we used to do this frequently in the past: for example, this article or this one. I know a lot of professional news organisations, such as the BBC, frequently use external links warnings. Tempodivalse [talk]  16:19, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikileaks tells Wikinews why they published Danish child porn censorship list is the only time I've ever warned for an external link. Deciding what's graphic enough is a key issue. A knife claimed to be used in a murder, such as the Kercher show trial in Italy? Blood on a mangled car? Bodies covered with only newspaper, their feet sticking out? Maimed people and decapitated corspes after a bombing? It's hard to draw that line. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:31, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the line might be a bit hard to draw, but it's ultimately something I feel we should have - at least for very extreme cases. I certainly don't like inadvertently bumping into pages with horrific images, and I'm sure a lot of other people feel the same. Anything that is obviously disturbing to many people - e.g. decapitated corpses - is probably enough to warrant a warning. For more borderline cases like the ones you mentioned above, we wouldn't necessarily use a warning. We probably should decide things on a case-by-case basis. Tempodivalse [talk]  16:45, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd say that blood is all right, but internal organs or severed body parts need a warning, and that frontal nudity (female nipples, genitals of either gender) should also have a warning. Profanity and graphic descriptions in text are fine, in my opinion. I would suggest that, as well as a warning, it would be a good idea to collapse qualifying images, but that is not as important. Den dodge  T\C 16:54, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I think Dendodge's idea for collapsing images is a good one, that gives people the option of still reading an article without having to look at the picture (and doesn't violate our policy of no censoring, since the image is still there). I'd also agree with his description of what qualifies as sufficiently offensive or disturbing. Tempodivalse [talk]  17:09, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Just FYI, I removed the warning from the heavy metal interview. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:10, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Nudity? Eh? Godamn prudish Americans! Numerous European television broadcasters think nothing of running shower gel product adverts where women's nipples are clearly shown. And I do not mean after some sort of "watershed"; I've seen that in daytime and children's programming. This is an example of differing cultures; strict Islam would have us put warnings on any woman shown not wearing the head-to-toe garb they're known for. This is why I am generally opposed to any sort of warning because it assumes the reader's cultural prejudices match your own. Wikinews is not censored for minors; it should not be censored for anyone. An article's title is all the warning you need. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:57, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I would not even have put a warning on the Danish child porn link from Wikileaks; I already put "Wikinews is not responsible for the content of external sites." in the disclaimer, displayed on every page. That particular link requires you to click it to visit Wikileaks, and then actively click a link within Wikileaks to attempt to access blacklisted content.
 * I've had the misfortune to once be anonymously emailed a short kiddie porn clip – presumably by someone attempting to discourage my participation in a heated online debate. Hard core pornography is freely available on the Internet, to anyone of any age, who is prepared to tick a little checkbox claiming to be over 18 or 21. Content filtering is the user's responsibility and Wikinews should be free to use whatever are the most appropriate images for a story, or the actual words that someone spoke. Fuck is in very common usage in Western countries; it would be a remarkably sheltered child who reached the age of seven or eight without having heard it and discovered part of the available meanings which can be attached to it. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:12, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

 * I felt somewhat obliged on the child porn thing. It's not just taboo to many cultures; it's ilegal in virtually every jurisdiction and I think the net of international law may clamp down on it as well. It's not like graphic gore or extreme fetish porn; following that link puts you one click away from what is widely held to be a serious offence. Sentencing is generally moronic for this kind of thing; creators serve too little time and viewers serve too much. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:51, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think we would get complaints from concerned parents if we were to show a bit of blood, or use profanity, but I can imagine a few rants if we publish particularly gory torture scenes or nudity "where any child can see it". I figure a warning (and possibly a version of the article that is free of such images) should kerb this. I know Wikipedia's absolutely no censorship of any images whatsoever policy has provoked a few angry comments, and, while they are very easy to ignore, remove, or respond to politely, we should strive to please our readers by pre-emptively introducing measures such as warnings to combat this. Den dodge  T\C 20:28, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If that kind of thing shocks your child then s/he sould not be on the internet, or you should supervise him/her/it. What if 4chan, specifically /b/, is in the news, as it is from time to time? What if I decide to cite a terrorist website like PalestineSons.com? Think of the children is a kneejerk reaction that does not hold up when scrutinised. SomebodyThinkOfTheChildren.com Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:40, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying these "concerned parents" are right, just that they exist. If we can please one group at a minimum of inconvenience to others, we should do it. A few false positives won't hurt, and, likewise, the coverage of the warnings does not have to be comprehensive, but any warning helps. I'm not sure if we should have any hard policy on this; it would probably be better to decide on an per-image basis (erring on the side of caution, rather than dragging out discussions on whether a particular image is offensive or not). Den dodge  T\C 20:52, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I tend to side with Dendodge on this. I'm not even thinking about young children, just people in general. My reasoning is: a sizeable portion of our readers, even if a minority, are very uncomfortable or find it unpleasant, at the least, to come upon certain images, especially without warning. They might be put off from reading or contributing to the project because of this, and we could get complaints. A small, indiscreet notice would not harm anything or cause inconvenience, imho, it would only be beneficial. I think it'd be best to decide on a case-by-case basis whether or not a warning is appropriate. Tempodivalse [talk]  21:30, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Really, if it comes down to the sort of issues you're apparently thinking of then we would be remiss not to use the image. The link to the Wikileaks censorship list is a good example - I have no objection there to adding a caution to the link. Wikinewsies should, themselves, be aware of the risks of prosecution in their jurisdiction if they access such links for research purposes. However, it would have been a most appropriate use of the list to look for images from a blocked extremist site appropriate to illustrate the article. Such sites are blocked for reason of the politics they promote; their blocking is an encroachment from the "thing-of-the-children" principle. Goatse is on the URL blacklist; nobody should be allowed on the Internet unsupervised until they've seen that. Afterwards the remnants of a car bomb before they pick up the bits of corpses won't bother you so much. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:45, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Per the nudity/organs/other disturbing images, I support the idea of collapsing images. I've seen blood in Disney and local news stuff, so I'm sure there's no problem with blood. Nudity is pixelized in nearly every instance. And per child porn, that is a very serious offense in the US. See http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?PageId=1504 . -- The New  Mikemoral  ♪♫ 21:56, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

re: Censoring images/text on Wikinews: What Wikinews is not Wikinews is not censored. This is policy on this project.

However: There are almost no justifications for crude or offensive images in news reporting on Wikinews. Full Stop. An image cannot, itself, be a news article - it needs must be written about. If an image is so intrinsic to the story, most likely it will be copyright as a news image and, thus, not possible to be hosted on Wikinews as it would violate our fair use policies. Crude and offensive images are nearly always included for their shock value rather than their ability to illustrate a news article, and as such are not essential to reporting the news and should be omitted.

Use common sense, do not use images except to illustrate a story, and there will be few if any problems. Those which arise should be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.

Finally: do not create solutions to problems which do not exist. This thread is a classic example of creating a conflict where none existed. Very bad for community health. -  Amgine | t 22:11, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Um, Amgine, is this thread creating a conflict? Sure, there wasn't any problem to begin with, I had just come up with an idea and wanted to share it with the community for feedback. Is there something wrong with that?
 * Anyways, back on topic, the issue here isn't to censor certain images (I'm flatly against that), but rather to warn readers of them, or make them harder to come upon inadvertently. And there are occasions (although uncommon) where images of human anatomy/gore might be appropriate to better illustrate an article, especially if it has original reporting. This comes to mind, for one. Tempodivalse [talk]  22:25, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Is there an existing problem which this thread addresses? You just came up with an idea - not a bad thing - and you want to know if it would violate policy - which you indicated you already knew it would when you first posted it. So, yes, there is a problem with that. (You didn't address the question of "is this technically possible", but I assume you knew that it was due to the Wikipedia pseudo-implementation of this.)

 * Censor: one who censures - that is, blames, criticizes, or condemns as wrong. If you decide what others may see on Wikinews, you are a censor. What you are proposing is censorship. You cannot avoid that in your suggestions. This is not necessarily wrong (or right,) but it is censorship. How you think it best to implement it does not change its basic nature. -  Amgine | t 22:56, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Once again, I'm not suggesting we wholesale remove potentially disturbing images. I'm just suggesting we add an inconspicuous warning to articles including them, while still displaying the image below, for everyone to see. I don't think that is tantamount to outright censorship or contrary to WN:NOT, and we're not blaming, criticising or condemning anything - just providing a courtesy heads-up that some readers might find it disturbing. No biggies though, ultimately I don't feel very strongly about this, I thought I'd just throw this out as an idea for community consideration. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  23:07, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * This does not alter the fact that you are proposing someone judge what is offensive, crude, disturbing, or otherwise 'wrong'. That's what the definition of censorship is. Even if it's merely a courtesy heads up, or a full-on proof of age/identity/legal status to view the image. -  Amgine | t 23:16, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Eh, maybe you're right, I dunno. *shrugs* I just thought this would be better for the benefit of our readers. This thread has turned into a bit of a storm-in-a-teacup, I almost wish I hadn't brought it up now that everyone's flogging it. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  23:24, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah! I think I see a communications failure. Censorship is not removing an image or text from an article. It is judging that an image or text should not be displayed. Removal is after the fact of censoring. I believe there is consensus for users who wish to be insulated from potentially offensive material to use filtering software on their own computers, rather than for Wikinews to determine what they should not/should see, would not want/would want to see. -  Amgine | t 23:31, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's right, my bad. I didn't know the full meaning of the word "censorship", I thought it referred to the actual removing of something, not the judging of it. Tempodivalse [talk]  00:01, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The "polite" answer is, yes, to tell people to use their own filtering software. That can be as simple and blunt a solution as turning off image rendering in your browser. The reader, as an individual, can self-censor in whatever way they see fit. If parents, their children's browsing habits are their concern. Obviously, if you're at work and Internet access is provided as a perk they can force you through a proxy - even one with a "too much pink" filter. Take the time to research what censorship is, the examples where it has led to encroachment of tyranny, and the strident arguments by those who realise you have to defend the really bad sometimes. Look up the Richard Stallman videos on Commons; he talks of a movie he found deeply offensive but would not seek to prevent anyone from seeing – as long as they got the opportunity to be informed about the subject/content. The title of a Wikinews article is all the warning you'll get. If you want training handles and rubber bumpers on the Internet you add them yourself. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:43, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

 * To repeat a comment on my userpage, I believe this is a useful discussion. While I am vehemently against censorship, I can understand that many members of the community might not realise the benefits of flying in the faces of the likes of the PMRC nd the unintentional harm censorship causes. So please, don't be disheartened. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:34, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

 * I fully agree with the way Amgine has laid this out. If an image is an appropriate illustration for an article it should be used, provided it fits within the project's Fair Use policy. Mike's missingkids link points to the US law on the issue, and here I point to a specific witchhunt aspect of it (emphasis added as appropriate) "What is Child Pornography? [...] the visual depiction is a digital image, computer image, or computer-generated image that is, or is indistinguishable from, that of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct;" This makes virtually all pornographic manga which uses childlike faces on bodies with over-developed sexual characteristics illegal. Now, read Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? and ask yourselves why Wikinewsies should consider breaking the law. Link it to the leaked blacklist; who exactly is getting to decide what the public can and can't see? Why can't I look and see what Islamic extremists post on their recruitment websites? It is news – would anyone disagree with that? If you think I'm actually advocating re-publishing child porn then you're stupid. The interview with Wikileaks tries to make the point I'm making here; if we consider a democratic and free society important then we might just have to review what authorities deem illegal and challenge them on it. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:33, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

 * I think the key point here - that perhaps hasn't really been touched on - is that reality is tough. It is one thing to sit and hear or read written/spoken details of some attrocity, but people need to see for themselves what's actually going on. For example, there was a case recently in Zambia. The government was covering up how bad healthcare was so a journalist started sending a picture she took of a woman giving birth to a stillborn child in a car park. She was prosecuted for her efforts with some colleagues, but the court refused to convict and the public gained a real understanding of just how out-of-order their rulers were. That's an extreme example of why news sources should publish hard-hitting photographs: People need to understand the reality of life for a good many people. And no, it isn't pretty. If you are disturbed then you should do something about it; sign a petition or give money or join a protest march. Don't bury your head in the sand and hope it goes away. It won't. It gets worse. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:01, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

New single source exception
Can we introduce an exception to single source issues when Broadcast report is used? Obviously, if you were doing something like listening to the news another source is required, but I think watching a football match should be acceptable. After all, it is little different in terms of what can be gleaned than turning up at the event and doing some OR. Thoughts?

Also, note that WN:CS says not a word about single sources. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:15, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Single sources are allowed "for original reporting, breaking news, or local stories". Broadcast reports count as OR, IMO, but the exceptions do need to be listed on the content guide. Benny the mascot (talk) 14:56, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Boradcast reports do not count as OR. We decided that some time back. Again, though, that's something never actually updated into the documentation. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:05, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Single source, in any circumstances without credible corroborating original research, I think should not be allowed. The issue with a broadcast report is how "managed" is it, and how many Wikinewsies saw it? Live coverage of a match or notable event has less opportunity for the producers to stage manage it. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:02, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Broadcast report does already require some level of trust in the user. Controversial or interesting bits of live coverage show up again in slow motion anyway. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:05, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Popular articles
And as well as the news in pictures section, the popular articles template has been broken for at least two months now and it is still not fixed yet. Can anybody please fix this problem? I would be very grateful for it. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 11:47, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

 * I think it relied on something in the toolserver which died. And isn't coming back. Sorry. We've lost the individual popularity links on articles as well. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:29, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * So the bot (or a possible clone of it) isn't ever going to work again due to the toolserver? It's a pity, that was one of my favourite "gadgets" on WN. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:24, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, we are one of the few news websites that doesn't have a popular pages feature. It's a shame, since that is one of my main methods of navigating the BBC website (the news website I use most frequently). There seems to be an extension that could do it for us at mw:Extension:TopTenPages, but it's listed as being in its beta stage, so I'm not sure if the powers that be would let us use it. Den dodge  T\C 15:01, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * That extension looks interesting, but it's in beta stage and seems to have been written by someone not completely proficient with such things. I'd be willing to try it, when and if we're sure it's reliable. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

The basic statistics are still being generated and are available at http://dammit.lt/wikistats/ afaik - the trouble is they need parsing etc. And each file contains information about all Wikimedia projects, making about 60 megabytes of data. I might take a look at doing this myself soon, but I can't make any promises. the wub "?!"  15:25, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I have a shell script that parses them and edits Popular pages. See user:Bawolff bot. Your welcome to use it if you want (I'd do it, but don't have an always on computer). As far as i know, the bot isn't on the toolserver, but run directly by melancholie, who dissapeared. The extension would not work, as the internal mediawiki hit counter is disabled for preformance reasons. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:09, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Can we not put your bot on the toolserver? That would allow it to run indefinitely without anyone here needing an always-on computer, wouldn't it? Den dodge  T\C 21:15, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well as long as the toolserver up (toolserver tends to die a lot, but it would work most of the time). That would require a toolserver account, something which i don't have. I'm not really sure offhand how difficult it would be to get one. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:21, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * describes the process. It doesn't sound too hard, as long as you have a legitimate reason (which you do). Den dodge  T\C 21:24, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

 * The MediaWiki extension cannot be used as many requests are handled by front-end squid caches and not actually available to the back-end database. It shouldn't be difficult to get a toolserver account but whatever script is set running there must have very robust recovery/restart abilities. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:25, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I have a toolserver account already, so I can try and get Bawolff's script running there. I'm not used to shell scripts though, and it might take some fiddling - I'll hopefully get it done between Christmas and New Year. Definitely easier than writing my own though! Bawolff, if you want a toolserver account for yourself they're not too much hassle to get. My request sat idle for a long time, but that's mainly because I was shy - pressing the admins seems to be key. the wub "?!"  22:05, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I might consider trying to get one. Some warnings about that script. It was written before i really understood how to easily edit mediawiki from a script, so it relies on a modified pywikipediabot script to do the updates (if i was writing it now i would just use wget). Also the version that most recently ran (melancholie's) only displayed articles that were on main page (filter out stuff like special:recentchanges). The shell script version does not. Cheers, don't hesistate to ask if you have any questions about the script. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:38, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

 * Any updates on this? I'd really like the popular articles to be returned if possible. Tempodivalse [talk]  04:54, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * See the request at Bots. Sorry for the delay, I had an unexpectedly busy holiday, and the bot took longer to do than I thought because I'm quite new to shell scripting. the wub "?!"  22:20, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

No Trolling/ No Personal attacks policys
As seen in the recent discussion at Deletion requests, Wikinews needs a real anti-trolling. Although WN:E kinda addresses it, its not a firm policy. Cocoaguytalkcontribs‽ 22:36, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Actually, WN:BP states that "Admins can block users or IP addresses who... [a]re trouble-makers who are not contributing to our goals." We don't really need any more than that, I think. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:39, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

 * That policy allows admins to only block users, not delete their edits. Perhaps we should add "trolling" to WN:SD. Benny the mascot (talk) 22:44, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Hmm, I was thinking of implementing something like Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Deny recognition, I know its not a policy, but I think that entire discussion above kinda provides gratification for a would-be vandal/troll. Cocoaguytalkcontribs‽ 06:38, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Stop trying to make policy never-before needed. It's ammunition for semi-sentient trolls to WikiLawyer with. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:03, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Eh, couldn't WN:IAR cover areas like this where we don't have firm policy? Common sense ultimately should rule, and reverting trolls seems like common sense. And WN:SD allows speedy-deletion if an article is "vandalism", would that apply to troll posts too? Maybe we should write up a guideline based on wikipedia's policy of revert-block-ignore, and discourage people from bringing attention to them. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * In regards to the above, I feel this is massively instruction creep. WN:E sets out guidelines for ettiquete, violations should be dealt with as appropriate to the specific situation. We don't need, nor is it a good idea to have a policy on everything under the sun. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

 * I don't see the need for additional policies to deal with this situation and fear doing so would just be instruction creep - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 07:53, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It would seem I'm not the only one that remembers we've had similar discussions in the past. Let me look to make one little change (If I can remember/find where) and see if everyone's happy. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:41, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * here. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:13, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * WN:SD doesn't even mention disruptive trolling, however. I think it should be added to the "other pages" section. Benny the mascot (talk) 23:09, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Neither is Template:stale yet it is on the list of deletion reasons. If there is consensus it can be added to WN:SD - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 01:33, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Category:Wackynews: neutral enough?
I've been wondering about this for some time. Although I personally find it kinda funny, is the "wackynews" category appropriate or neutral enough for wikinews? Imho, it seems to be too subjective to be applied consistently or neutrally. Some people might think a story is "wacky", others might think it's not. This, for instance, was marked as "wackynews", so someone must have though it was an odd story, but it certainly didn't seem that way to me. Or this story, which was also marked as such, but it seems a bit tasteless to call a murder "wacky". So, my question is: since it's subjective and depends on personal POV, is it possible to apply this category neutrally? Thoughts? Tempodivalse [talk]  21:18, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we should get rid of it. The really funny articles can be placed in Category:Comedy. Benny the mascot (talk) 22:31, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

 * The Indian one is obviously someone expressing a political opinion. The guy eating his girlfriend's corpse is weird/bizarre, it might qualify as "Wacky". You'd really need to define criteria to evaluate candidates for the category, newspapers and magazines have a long history of grouping the strange and unusual of news into similarly named categories. Yes, it can end up applied very subjectively and as an expression of someone's POV. I think this and this qualify as "Wackynews". --Brian McNeil / talk 23:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The problem is, as I see it (if we want to be super-objective), is that Wikinews should not have an opinion on whether something is funny or "wacky". That's something up to the reader to decide. The category can also be used to express political POV, as seen with the Indian technology story mentioned above. I actually briefly considered nominating it at WN:DR, but seeing as it's a large category, I thought it'd be better and would avoid drama to have a discussion here first. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:33, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I understand the problem. The conflict is that it's an "expected" category of news. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:42, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. But, there are a lot of other things that news sites are "expected" to have, yet we don't have, i.e. Category:Editorials or Category:Reviews. Let's face it, there are some things MSM have that we can't mimic if we want to keep to our NPOV policy. Tempodivalse [talk]  16:23, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

 * The idea behind the top-level layout is that almost every last article should fit into at least one of the broad categories, plus a county or two (counting 'world' and 'space' as countries for that). For that reason I don't want to remove the cat, but I'm unable to work out what we should do to address the problem. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:47, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Does anyone have any objections to me listing this at DR, or should we discuss it some more here first? I ultimately don't think this is a category we can have due to NPOV, nor is there any way to determine criteria under which it should be used due to its inherent subjectiveness. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:59, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * IMHO, the only thing with any potential for further discussion here is Blood Red Sandman's point about the category serving a useful function as a sort of "miscellaneous" major category. My take on this:   (1) it's not miscellaneous because it's called "wacky".   (2) Template:Wackynews infobox is a public menace; we'd be better off without it (it's only transcluded on two articles?), and without an infobox, is a "major category" major?   (3) If we really, desperately need something like this (which I doubt), perhaps "bizarre" would at least be a less toxic word choice than "wacky".  --Pi zero (talk) 17:28, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe "unusual" would be more neutral. An article can be considered unusual without any comment being made on the subject matter. (If you want a pun, how about "unewsual")? Den dodge  T\C 17:39, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * "Unusual" is still too subjective and based on personal POV, imho. How do we define what is "unusual" so that everyone will agree on it? That's the biggest problem with non-concrete categories like this. Tempodivalse [talk]  17:42, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

 * {unindent} Just a note, i've listed the category for deletion at WN:DR since nobody was flatly against removing it here. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Abbreviated Citing US Representatives and Senators
What is the official policy on citing members of congress? In WN:SG does not mention it, maybe the names should include their political party. For example: Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY), instead of, Senator Charles Schumer of New York, Democrat. Cocoaguytalkcontribs‽ 22:29, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Most news sources use the first option. Maybe we should add something about honorifics into the style guide. --Thunderhead 22:35, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

 * I'd like to add a note on abbreviations: I don't like it much. At the very least, the title and the point the person is first mentioned should use the full word (if the author chooses to attach the title at all), then it can be abbreviated. I don't want anything done before that since it assumes the whole world understands the system of representatives and senators - something it doesn't. Nobody's political system is well-known outside their nation. I'd go with citing party like that as ideal. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:37, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Agree with Sandman. "D-NY" isn't very clear to a non-Yankee. We should, imo, make thinks as clear as possible for an audience anywhere in the world, since we are international. Tempodivalse [talk]  22:39, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, abbreviations are not clear to me at all. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:56, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Couldn't agree more. --Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 13:48, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * As others state, "D-NY" is kinda meaningless to non-USians. Wikinews is supposed to cater to an international audience. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:57, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

A related question. (I too agree that the abbreviated form isn't suitably international.) Which of the following works better? --Pi zero (talk) 14:13, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Senator Charles Schumer of New York, Democrat.
 * Senator Charles Schumer (Democrat, New York).
 * I prefer the parenthesised version; it's shorter, and clearly sets off the additional information from the rest of the text. Den dodge  T\C 14:20, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

 * The latter seems a slightly encyclopedic way of citing their political affiliation and area represented. Within reason I'd prefer to see it done as prose with appropriate links to Wikipedia so people can do background reading on what a Senator or Congresscritter is, the individual politician, and the area represented. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:42, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Both variants are OK, I think, although i prefer the first one for reasons expressed by Brian above. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:54, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, just to be redundant, same goes for Representatives right? ex. Congressman Peter King (Republican, New York) Cocoaguytalkcontribs‽ 18:20, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

 * On the latter question, I'd say yes, whatever goes for Senators should go for Representatives too.

 * Actually seeing [|seeing the parenthesized form in its natural habitat], though, gives me a fresh insight into the abbreviations: they convey information that might not be worth more than a few letters in parentheses. A longer form would be more disruptive and therefore would need greater justification.  In the Newark Airport story, Lautenberg's political party doesn't really matter, although his state is relevant enough to mention (and his party can be found by following the link on his name, if the reader is interested in that background information); so in that article it probably works better to say
 * at the behest of U.S. Senator Frank R. Lautenberg of New Jersey, ...
 * That actually does read better, IMHO, than
 * at the behest of U.S. Senator Frank R. Lautenberg (New Jersey), ...
 * --Pi zero (talk) 23:16, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You make a good point. This, I think, is why formalising how you identify 'actors' in articles by political affiliation should not be codified into the style guide. It is not always relevant to the news story and you potentially step onto treacherous ground when you choose to affiliate political persuasion with a newsworthy event where an elected official is involved. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:35, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

News on Wikipedia Homepage
Who decides what news goes on the Wikipedia front page? Is there a policy regarding it? I haven't been able to find such a policy, and the standards for noteworthiness seem to change over time. 128.151.23.55 (talk) 21:29, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Wrong project, Wikipedia controls that. Wikinews is mostly independent of wikipedia. However, w:Wikipedia:In the news is the page you're looking for i believe. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:32, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Are you referring to this project, Wikinews, or our sister site Wikipedia? We're not a part of Wikipedia, and totally independent from them. If it's the former, then no, we have no set policies on what can and can't go on the front page, although there are some "unwritten" rules about it, such as that the story should not be very local, and that the leads should be kept reasonably fresh if possible. Tempodivalse [talk]  21:34, 29 January 2010 (UTC)


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Equality is hard to obtain when occupation nearly wipes your culture out.And even harder to obtain when the occupiers only focus on their own wants and needs.You have nothing to fear from maori but knowledge understanding and if you know your reo. Arohanui.peace


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Historic gym the site of Benet Academy, Illinois victory over Oswego

January 18, 2010

The Benet Academy Redwings boys basketball team defeated the Oswego High School Panthers 40–34 Saturday night at Benet's historic Alumni Gym.

Located at Lisle, Illinois, United States, the gymnasium is home to Benet's winning streak of 102 consecutive home games. The statewide record lasted from November 26, 1975 until January 24, 1987, when Naperville North High School defeated the Redwings 47–46. Benet also achieved 96 consecutive victories in the Western Suburban Catholic Conference at that time.

The school continued to use the facility, colloquially referred to as the "Old Gym" or the "Small Gym", until the end of the 1994 season, when a newer athletic center was built on campus. It wasn't until the late 1990's when then-coach Marty Gaughan decided to play one game per year in the Alumni Gym to remind the school of its history. "There is just an electricity, and you feel it when you are in there," said Gaughan, who coached the team from the 1989–1990 season to the 2007–2008 season.

This tradition continued until the 2006–2007 season, when the Redwings played against long-time rival St. Francis High School. Renovations prevented the gym from being used for athletic events over the past two seasons. This game was Benet coach Gene Heidkamp's first opportunity to coach in the older gym. "So much history and winning has taken place there, which makes it so special. It is something the entire school community is excited about," said Heidkamp.

Saturday's game was played at the Alumni Gym at the request of Oswego assistant coach Jim Bagley. He wanted his son, senior forward Chris Bagley, to experience the same atmosphere he had as he played for Benet in the 1978–1979 season. Greg Kwiatkowski was also Jim Bagley's teammate in Benet, and his son, Joe Kwiatkowski, was in the Panthers' starting lineup as well. "Two of us who played at Benet together and now our son's play on [Oswego] together and for them to have a chance to play where we played is going to be a great night and great experience," said the senior Bagley.

Alumni Gym apparently still had its charm in the second half for the Redwings, whose 15–17 score at halftime worsened into an 11-point deficit in the third quarter. Benet fell behind with a score of 21–29 at the start of the fourth quarter. From that point, the Redwings' defense began to kick in. Oswego could make only 2 of its 13 field goals in the third quarter. Benet's offense also gained momentum as center Frank Kaminsky scored all of his 9 points in the fourth quarter. A shot by senior Mike Runger brought the score to 31–31, and two consecutive driving layups by David Sobolewski gave Benet the lead that would last for the rest of the game.

"We hit a dry spell there, but let's give credit where credit is due. Defense wins games and they are the best defensive team we've faced all year," said Oswego coach Kevin Schnable.

Benet's Matt Parisi led his team with 15 points, and Sobolewski scored 12. Oswego's Andrew Ziemnik also scored 12.


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January 18, 2010 According to reports, at least ten people were killed in the Nigerian city of Jos on Sunday, after clashes between Christian and Muslim gangs. This comes a year after similar violence last year killed hundreds.

The fighting began when Christian youths demonstrated against the building of a mosque in Nassarawa Gwom district, which is predominantly Christian. Houses and cars were set ablaze, according to eyewitness reports.

"I cannot give casualty figures now until my men complete their full investigation. Thirty-five people were arrested," said Gregory Anyating, police commissioner.

"Ten bodies have so far been brought to the hospital, some with gunshot wounds," an unnamed nurse at the Jos University Teaching Hospital told the Agence France-Presse news agency, adding that six people had been admitted with deep wounds. Some reports, however, put the number of dead as high as twenty.

In November of 2008, violence erupted throughout Jos, killing hundreds of people, after a dispute over an election. It remains, to date, the deadliest fighting between Christian and Muslim gangs in the country.


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Original reporting notes

 * ...colloquially referred to as the the "Old Gym" or the "Small Gym"...
 * This, and anything else that isn't supported by the sources, comes from personal experience. Benny the mascot (talk) 00:10, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

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 * Thanks! I try my best. :) Benny the mascot (talk) 13:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea what this is
I'm really sorry, but until I reached this line-"Oswego could make only 2 of its 13 field goals" did I have any idea what sport this was. There are other countries outside of the USA and I am going to guess this is American Football, but to only be able to work that out in the last few lines of a story is appalling. I'm afraid here I blame the reviewer, because although the writer should have made it more accessible to a global audience, it is the reviewers job to realise and say it is not.   Tris   08:57, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I have now taken it off the lead for a story we have already had as until it's fixed, we shouldn't have it as one of our main articles. I would fix it, if I knew what sport it was and what it was about.      Tris   09:10, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, context is significantly lacking here. The word "basketball" (I assume that's what it is? I know next to nothing about sports) isn't even mentioned in the article body (only once in the sources). Tempodivalse [talk]  13:14, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow...I'm really sorry about this, guys. The sport was actually clear before I renamed it, but when I read the article again it just didn't "click in" that I needed to name te sport. Sorry again. Benny the mascot (talk) 13:34, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It's ok, no worries. The reviewer should have caught that. No great damage was done anyway :-) Tempodivalse [talk]  13:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Well that's a relief! Benny the mascot (talk) 13:49, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * This tells me I need a holiday - seriously. I was basically the same as Benny, it just didn't click in that something was missing. I probably need to take that holiday - didn't have one over christmas - then come back fresh and renewed --RockerballAustralia (talk) 14:39, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

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editprotected Category:DuPage County, Illinois Benny the mascot (talk) 03:30, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
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Comments:Senegal president offers free land to "repratriate" Haitians

Good idea
I think this is a good idea, it should be offered to people of African origin around the world.--75.194.51.154 (talk) 21:38, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

haitian go home
I believe the haitians people have suffered enough through slavery strip out of there land for to many years they deserve to go back to africa and claim whats theres. I think it is a wonderful idea and trust that the offer by a good man was extended the cost. i wouldnt worry about this happen for a reason by god and trust me all those lives that was lost will not go in vein there will be glory in the end thisis just the being of the true blessing that haiti deserves.


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IF Brown wins, WHO is Sen. Paul G. Kirk Jr. representing ?

Before the 19th, he was going to vote the same way as Teddy would vote, which was theoretically what the people of MA wanted..

BUT, if the people elect (on the 19th) a new senator that is going to vote against OBamacare.

That would mean the people of MA would NOT want him to vote for yea on Obamacare.

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Ukraine presidential election headed for runoff

January 18, 2010

The 2010 Ukrainian presidential election will go into a runoff vote as no candidate has 50% of the popular vote. The top two candidates are Viktor Yanukovych and Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko. The runoff will be held February 7.

According to exit polls, Viktor Yanukovich is currently leading with 31-36% of the vote, with Yulia Tymoshenko in second with 25-27%. Eighteen other candidates, including incumbent president Viktor Yushchenko, have been eliminated from the election.

This election is expected to be scrutinized by third party auditors, as opposing candidates have accused each other of attempting to rig the election. President Yushchenko said that "Ukraine once again will demonstrate that it is a European democratic country, that it is a free nation, free people and free election."


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Cricket: Buderim to fill half Politicians team on Australia Day

January 20, 2010 The Buderim Cricket Club in Queensland, Australia will field a side against local politicians on Australia Day while providing half the team. Not counting local Councillors, there are seven politicians (two in federal parliament, four in state parliament) within a ten kilometre radius of the Buderim Mountain State School, the games venue.

The last Australia Day match played was between the Buderim Cricket Club and the local Chamber of Commerce. On that day, the Chamber of Commerce batted first scoring 162 all out off 18.3 overs. The Cricket Club XI were all out for 114 off 15.2 overs in reply.

Buderim Cricket Club currently field four teams in the Sunshine Coast Cricket Association competition. They field a third division side and two fourth division teams in multi-inning competition; and a fifth divsion side in a limited overs competition.

The match will be included in an overall Australia Day celebration at Buderim Mountain State School which included Sunshine Coast Idol, kids' rides, barbecues and food stalls.


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Basis for article is from discussions I've had with some of the guys at Buderim--RockerballAustralia (talk) 09:40, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Local (Sunshine Coast) Politicians
''distances quoted are distances from electorate office to buderim state school. google maps was used as a rough guide''
 * 1) Federal Parliament
 * 2) Peter Slipper (Fisher) aprox 6 KM
 * 3) Alex Somlyay (Fairfax) aprox 4 KM
 * 4) State Parliament
 * 5) Mark McArdle (Caloundra) - 10+ KM
 * 6) Jarrod Bleijie (Kawana) - approx 6 KM
 * 7) Steve Dixon (Buderim) - < 1 KM
 * 8) Fiona Simpson (Maroochydore) - aprox 4 KM
 * 9) Glen Elms (Noosa) - 10+ KM
 * 10) Peter Wellington (Nicklin) - approx 9 KM
 * 11) Andrew Powell (Glass House) - 10+ KM

Buderim teams in Sunshine Coast Competition

 * 3rds - multi-innings
 * 4ths - two teams - multi-innings
 * 5ths - limited overs

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COI
I play for the Buderim 5th division side --RockerballAustralia (talk) 04:35, 18 January 2010 (UTC)


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Comments:World's oldest dog dies at age 20

interesting and good article --79.233.110.174 (talk) 14:15, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

May we send sympathy to its owners for the great loss of their dog. 20 years is a long time and it is like having a child. may God's blessings be on the family and all who are involved.

Age of Otto
Telegraph headline states Otto died at age 20. Metro head is 146 dog years (20.9 human years). Story states, "Otto would have been 21 years old 31 days after his death occurred."

Otto is in Guinness Book of Records; accuracy missing.

P.S. Recommend '.. after his death occurred.' be revised to '.. when he died.' 76.100.1.110 (talk) 19:18, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Dog passes away at 20
I think it's wonderful you had 20 years with him. And I personally know how painful it is to make the decision you did. I hope their is a heaven so I can see my 5 pekes I've had over the years and one day you'll see your buddy too. May God Bless You.

awww.. i feel for you.. i love dog's.. they truly are man's best friend..

otto
I CAN RELATE TO WHAT YOUR GOING THROUGH MY DOG BABYBOY IS 16 YEARS OLD HE WOULD BE 17 FEBUARY 12TH IF HE WERE TO MAKE IT HES A DASHOUND MIX. WELL TOMARROW OCT 14TH I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT AT THE VETS TO PUT HIM DOWN IVE HAD HIM SINCE THE DAY HE WAS BORN BUT DUE TO HEALTH PROBLEMS I HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO LET HIM GO TO A BETTER PLACE HE HAS A HEART MURMUR AND CONJESTED HEART FAILER 2 RUPCHURED DISK IN HIS BACK THEY SAY HE COULD LIVE UP TO SIX MONTHS BUT NOW HE HAS BLOOD IN HIS STOOL IM HAVING A HARD TIME DEALING WITH THIS BUT I NEED TO THINK ABOUT HIS NEEDS NOT MY OWN. I NEED HIM BUT HE NEEDS TO GO TO DOGGIE HEAVEN

YOURS TRUELY ETHEL HUGGINS

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World's Oldest dog is 20?
I find that difficult to believe because my dog - Mugsy - was 21 when he passed away. furthermore, when I found him (back in 1984) the vet said he could have been 3 - 5 years old AT THAT TIME. So, in essence my dog Mugsy could have been 24 - 26 years old at the time of his death and is REALLY the world's oldest living dog that died died peacefully April 2005. His brother Dink is 18 and at the rate HE's going he'll break the so-called "oldest dog" record.

our dog turned 20 on august 20, 2010 and is still going strong. her names is betsy and is a mix.

i guess this now makes her the world's oldest dog!!


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Comments:At least ten dead after clashes in Nigeria

In my perspective,i think, Nigeria should be divided into two countries:Christian and Muslim countries and let them be neighbours

Dividing the country wouldn't address the issues. Northern Nigeria already implements Sharia Law (see Sharia in Nigeria) in twelve of the nation's thirty-six states. Dividing the country would not get rid of the Christian minority in Jos, Kano, Kaduna, Bauchi, Maiduguri or anyplace else that has seen Christian-Muslim violence in the last decade. -- Fyedernoggersnodden (talk) 02:11, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


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Your article - "Ferry Good Year" - was a copy and paste from another website. Unfortunately, Wikinews can't accept that - everything you submit to our site has to be your own work, and therefore that article has been deleted. You may wish to consider working on the story and resubmitting it when it is your original work. Please don't let this put you off the site, and continue contributing! Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 14:48, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

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67th Annual Golden Globe Award highlights

January 21, 2010

Last Sunday evening at the Beverly Hilton Hotel in Beverly Hills, California were the 67th Annual Golden Globe Awards hosted by English comedian Ricky Gervais. The choice of Gervais as host was a move to increase viewership which declined to 15 million viewers last year from 27 million in 2004. Canadian director James Cameron—who previously won in 1997 for his film Titanic—and his high-grossing 3D epic Avatar seemed to dominate the ceremony, taking home the awards for Best Director and Best Picture respectively.

This annual event—which is often considered a preview of the Academy Awards—is conducted by the Hollywood Foreign Press Association to recognize achievements by those within both the motion picture and television industries internationally.

In the midst of the festivities, the earthquake in Haiti was still on the minds of many attendees. For instance, some wore lapel ribbons to honor the victims, while others noted how strange it was for them to be enjoying something like an award ceremony in the midst of such tragedy.

On incident of this was when American actress Meryl Streep got emotional while accepting the Best Actress award for her portrayal of chef Julia Child in the film Julia & Julia, "I am really honestly conflicted about how to have my 'happy movie self' in the face of everything that I'm aware of in the real world." She went on to mention her late mother, who Streep said would have told her to be grateful that she does in fact have the money to donate to people of Haiti. Following this, American actor George Clooney officially announced his intention to coordinate a telethon that would air on NBC, among other networks worldwide, on January 22 to raise money for those affected by the quake.

Below is a complete list of Sunday night's award recipients:

 * Best Motion Picture – Drama - Avatar
 * Best Motion Picture – Musical or Comedy - The Hangover
 * Best Director - James Cameron, Avatar
 * Best Actor – Motion Picture Drama - Jeff Bridges, Crazy Heart
 * Best Actor – Motion Picture Musical or Comedy - Robert Downey, Jr., Sherlock Holmes
 * Best Actress – Motion Picture Drama - Sandra Bullock, The Blind Side
 * Best Actress – Motion Picture Musical or Comedy - Meryl Streep, Julia & Julia
 * Best Supporting Actor – Motion Picture - Christoph Waltz, Inglourious Basterds
 * Best Supporting Actress – Motion Picture - Mo'Nique, Precious
 * Best Screenplay - Jason Reitman & Sheldon Turner, Up in the Air
 * Best Original Score - Michael Giacchino, Up
 * Best Original Song - "The Weary Kind," Crazy Heart
 * Best Foreign Language Film - '''The White Ribbon (Germany)
 * Best Animated Feature Film - Up
 * Cecil B. DeMille Award for Lifetime Achievement in Motion Pictures - Martin Scorsese

 * Best Drama Series - Mad Men
 * Best Comedy Series - Glee
 * Best Actor in a Television Drama Series - Michael C. Hall, Dexter
 * Best Actor in a Television Comedy Series - Alec Baldwin, 30 Rock
 * Best Actress in a Television Drama Series - Julianna Margulies, The Good Wife
 * Best Actress in a Television Comedy Series - Toni Collette, United States of Tara
 * Best Mini-Series or Motion Picture made for Television - Grey Gardens
 * Best Actor in a Mini-Series or Motion Picture made for Television - Kevin Bacon, Taking Chance
 * Best Actress in a Mini-Series or Motion Picture made for Television - Drew Barrymore, Grey Gardens
 * Best Supporting Actor in a Series, Mini-Series or Motion Picture made for Television - John Lithgow, Dexter
 * Best Supporting Actress in a Series, Mini-Series or Motion Picture made for Television - '''Chloë Sevigny, Big Love


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Talk:67th Annual Golden Globe Award highlights

January 2010

 * I know what the Golden Globes are; someone outside the Western hemisphere may think you're referring to women on a topless beach in the Bahamas - and there will be a GG award every year (title uniqueness). --Brian McNeil / talk 15:17, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

 * You're right. I see what you mean. I changed the title accordingly. PSD27 (talk) 16:37, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

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 * How so? I don't understand what you mean when you say this article is "encyclopedic." If you're referring to the list of winners, than I'd have to disagree with your assessment. Many people—specifically in America—are interested in the outcomes of this award show. Furthermore, there are numerous publications, both online and in print, that also provide a list of similar length. PSD27 (talk) 12:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for reconsidering your prior decision. I appreciate it. PSD27 (talk) 04:18, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Category and link
edit protected Please add this article to Category:George Clooney and localize the link of the same name (mid-article). Thank you. Green Giant (talk) 12:41, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 12:53, 7 October 2015 (UTC)


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Thank you for your productive and helpful edits on Wikinews. We really appreciate what you've done. Wikinews needs more good editors like yourself; please consider getting an account! We'd be very happy to have you. Tempodivalse [talk]  16:10, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

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Taliban launches series of attacks against Afghanistan capital

January 18, 2010 Several gunmen and suicide bombers from the Taliban have launched attacks in Kabul, the capital of Afghanistan, prompting gun fights and explosions on government targets. The public health ministry said that at least five people died and 38 more were injured.

President Hamid Karzai said that the situation was under control several hours after the attacks started; however, the Al Jazeera news agency reports that gunfire is still being heard around the city.

According to the Taliban, twenty of its fighters had participated in the attacks. A Taliban spokesman stated that the intended targets were ministries around the Pashtunistan Square, and the presidential palace; however, security was not breached at either of the locations.

Defence ministry spokesman Muhammad Zahir Azimi, however, reported that a cinema, two shopping centres, and the city's only five-star hotel, were set on fire after the attacks.

"A suicide bomber in a car came towards the foreign ministry. Security forces tried to stop it and it hit a shopping centre. It is really chaotic in the area," said local journalist Farhad Paiker.


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Zimbabwe may face famine due to wilting crops, organisation says

January 19, 2010 The US-funded (FEWSNET) has said that Zimbabwe may face famine this year, due to wilting crops caused by poor rains. The organisation added that more than two million Zimbabweans would require food aid between now and March.

“Since December, below-average precipitation and above-average temperatures continue to help strengthen seasonal moisture deficits across central Mozambique, southern Malawi, southern Madagascar and southern Zimbabwe,” FEWSNET said.

FEWSNET remarked that low amounts and rainfall, coupled with high temperatures, could result in crop failures in regions like, , and part of.

It also said that the World Food Programme is intending to increase food aid measures in the country. FEWSNET's estimate for the number of food-insecure people in Zimbabwe is now at 2.2 million, above the 1.7 million estimate for October through December.


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Somali pirates release tanker after receiving millions of dollars in ransom

January 19, 2010 A record ransom payment has secured the release of the Maran Centaurus, a massive oil tanker, seized in November by Somali pirates. The Maran Centaurus was the second-largest vessel ever captured and was carrying an estimated two million barrels of oil.

The pirates claim they received US$5.5 million for the ship's freedom, but a separate figure places the amount dropped on the ship at $7 million. Both are believed to exceed any previous figure paid to the Somali sea pirates.

The vessel was released after the money was dropped aboard the ship from an helicopter. Andrew Mwangura of the East African seafarers assistance programme said that the Centaurus was freed earlier today, commenting that "[s]he's free. She's preparing to sail out." There was reportedly a dispute over the ransom among the pirates, which delayed the release of the ship.

"We have agreed to solve our disagreements and release the ship. It is free and sailing away now," said one of the pirates, who goes by the name of Hassan.


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iPhone version
I've just come across this site-www.intersquash.com, which makes an iPhone enabled page from any RSS feed. This is what results from our RSS feed for any iPhone/iPod Touch users-. What do people think about redirecting iPhone users to the iPhone friendly version of the site, with a link back to the normal version?   Tris   09:32, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea to me. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:11, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * personally i'd prefer if such mobile versions were done in house. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:26, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

 * We should be able to do our own versions. This should be us being pioneers, and when we run into a brick wall with the WMF techies, we get Commons or Wikipedia to go "ooooh! nice!" and fight to get our new gadgets and toys made WMF-wide. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:33, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree, if someone can and will do. Any volunteers?     Tris   08:34, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * For both these things, the point seems to be that we should be doing it ourselves. However, noone does, for whatever reason & I'm not blaming those who are able to.  Of course I'd prefer it done in house, but it's not, so until then, maybe we should consider outsourcing.     Tris   10:46, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Good news everyone: Wikimedia Technical Blog - Mobile Homepage in your Language! There might be a few kinks since its only used for Wikipedias at the moment, but this seems like the best route to take. the wub "?!"  21:46, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Do we know how easy it would be for the devs to make this work for Wikinews? I guess all we really need on the mobile Main Page is a DPL (though we should try to squeeze on as much as we can) so it shouldn't, I wouldn't have thought, be overly difficult. Den dodge  T\C 22:04, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Devs tend to be squeeze resistant. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:30, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

 * FYI - I talked to the dev in charge of writing the mobile "interface" thing. He said he didn't have time for it, but should time get free'd up, he does believe Wikinews should be next.  I promised him that we'd do whatever was needed to work with him on it.  So... eventually we'll get it.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 00:32, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Photographer user category
Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right place to bring this up, but would it be possible to add a 'Photographer' user category, so that we can easily find all Wikinewsies who are photogs with gear etc, would have helped in the Times Sq Bomb Scare article and probably in other things too, as well as the general reasons mentioned in "What are user groups for?". I have noticed that. hidden away, is an 'Interest in Photojournalism' category, but this has only 2 users, 3 now including me. Can I just create a category page for photographer and an admin add it to the user directory, or would an admin need to do all of it? Thanks, --JulesMattsson (talk) 13:15, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we should reuse the old hidden category and just make it more prominent. Doesn't seem to be much point in making another one, when one already exists. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:16, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm with bawolff, if we can make use of the existing category that would be better, creating a new one would duplicate things unnecessarily, imo. Tempodivalse [talk]  03:41, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, that seems a fair idea, but maybe it could be renamed or some such? It's one thing having an interest in photojournalism, but a Photographer category would be for people who engage in original reporting and photojournalism as part of that. Or maybe just clarify the 'Interest in Photojournalism'. I don't really know, policy and site maintenance etc isn't and never will be my area, so this is just a vague suggestion. --JulesMattsson (talk) 19:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Categories cannot be renamed; only deleted and a new category created. I would suggest kicking around a few suggestions for the appropriate category name and then going ahead and creating it yourself. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:57, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay well, what do people think for a cat. name? Photographer, Photojournalist, Wikinews Photographer, Commons Photographer? etc... --JulesMattsson (talk) 21:58, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, whatever you think is best. One thing about the category:Interest in photojournalism is that the interest in part clearly indicates its a user category, and not a category that contains articles. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:22, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Search Results Chronological Order
For a NEWS Website - I find it very strang that topical search results do not display in chronological order - starting with most recent events first.

Any Thoughts?

 * Yeah, from what I can tell the search lists material by relevance, not by chronological order. I agree that the latter would have been much more suitable for a news site. Unfortunately, this is the standard MediaWiki configuration and i don't know that it's possible to change it. Tempodivalse [talk]  02:17, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Well it'd be nice to perhaps give more weight to more recent articles. If i am searching for a specific article, it is quite possible i want an article from the past. If you put a well known topical term, ex: special:search/Canada, it will go to a page listing Canadian articles in order. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:20, 7 January 2010 (UTC)


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Japan Airlines to file for bankruptcy

January 18, 2010 Japan Airlines (JAL), Asia's largest airline, is expected to file for protection on Tuesday, bringing an end to months of speculation about the airline's financial future, riddled by debt.

The bankruptcy filing, should it go ahead, is to be followed by a restructuring program, backed by the government, intended to trim down the airline, firing a third of its employees, and removing some routes from its schedule.

JAL stock has fallen by over ninety percent in the last few days, due to the financial uncertainty of the airline. Shares for JAL were trading as low as US$0.05 earlier today at the Tokyo stock exchange. The carrier's estimated value is now $150 million, about the price of a single jet.

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Conservative Piñera wins Chile polls, opponent Frei concedes defeat

January 19, 2010 Sebastián Piñera has won recent elections in Chile, becoming the first conservative president in 52 years. Former president and candidate, meanwhile, conceded losing the elections.

With 99% of votes counted, official returns showed Piñera with 52% of the vote and Frei with 48%. The new president will succeed the outgoing president,. She cannot run for a second consecutive term.

Piñera, a -educated economist, lost to Bachelet in the last presidential vote in 2006. He owns a television station, a soccer team and a stake in the Chilean.

"Better times are coming for Chile. There is a great new phase on the way. After 20 years I think a change will be good for Chile. It's like opening the windows of your home to let fresh air come in," Piñera said. He will take power in March.

Meanwhile, Frei, in his concession speech, commented that "Chile is much better than the country we received in 1990. We will be guardians of liberty and of all our social victories."


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Have checked everything for a review, but before publishing, you really need the picture of Pinera from Wikipedia, which doesn't seem to have been copied to Commons yet. Once that's done, it'll be fine.   Tris   20:02, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

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editprotected Please replace the picture with Image:Piñera crop.jpg. Piñera won, not Frei. --MisterWiki (talk) 17:13, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ❌Sorry, article is archived, no content changes unless an actual mistake (in which case it'd be a correction notice). Bawolff ☺☻ 21:04, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Pinera -> Piñera
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The title of this article needs to be changed from "Conservative Pinera..." to "Conservative Piñera..." and usage of "Sebastian Pinera" and "Pinera" in the article to "Sebastián Piñera" and "Piñera". Diego Grez (alternate account) alt. talk 03:21, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 21:36, 6 October 2013 (UTC)


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France, Germany officials warn against using Internet Explorer

January 19, 2010 Officials from France and Germany have warned people against using Microsoft's Internet Explorer, citing security holes, and encouraged users to find an alternate browser to surf the Internet.

The government agency Certa, which oversees cyber attacks and security, warned against using all versions of Internet Explorer. Officials from Germany had warned last Friday against the browser when malicious code was published on the Internet.

"Pending a patch from the publisher, Certa recommends using an alternative browser," Certa said in a statement.

Graham Cluley, from the security firm Sophos, said that the weakness had only been exploited in IE6, but he noted that "Microsoft themselves admit there is a vulnerability, even in IE8." He noted that, since more information into the malicious code is now available on the internet, hackers could alter the code to make it affect other versions of the browser.

The head of Microsoft's security and privacy department, however, commented that "the risk is minimal. There are very few of them out there," adding that in order for a computer to be infected by a virus, it would have to be running IE6 and be on a compromised website. "If you look at other browsers, it's likely they will have other vulnerabilities," he said to the BBC. "We feel strongly that IE8 is most secure browser on the market."

Microsoft encouraged users to upgrade to IE8, which they described as the "most secure browser on the market".

The firm is working on a patch to fix the problem, however, a spokesman said there wasn't any specific timeframe for its release.


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Man who shot Pope released from prison in Turkey

January 19, 2010 Mehmet Ali Ağca, the man who was convicted of shooting Pope John Paul II in 1981, was released from a prison in Turkey today, after serving nineteen years for the attempted murder of the Pope, and another ten years for the killing of a newspaper editor.

Ağca's motives for the attempted assassination of the Pope are not clear, although he said he was acting alone after he was arrested. Two years after the shooting, 1983, the Pope said that he had forgiven Ağca after meeting with him.

Ağca's mental health has been called into question, and a 2006 military hospital report said he had "severe anti-social personality disorder". He was reportedly taken to be assessed for compulsory military service after being released.

"I proclaim the end of the world. All the world will be destroyed in this century. Every human being will die in this century [...] I am the Christ eternal," Ağca said upon his release.


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January 20, 2010

The Iraqi government has started collecting signatures from victims of incidents involving the US security company Blackwater. This recent development comes after the Iraqi prime minister publicly vowed to launch lawsuits against the security company approximately two weeks ago.

It was a reaction to the dismissal by a US federal judge of all charges held against five security guards, employed by the security company, for their involvement in an incident that resulted in the deaths of 17 Iraqis in 2007. The security guards opened fire at civilians at an intersection; they claimed to have been ambushed. Witnesses, however, claimed that the shooting was unprovoked.

The incident led to Blackwater losing its license to operate in Iraq. The company has now changed its name to Xe Services and it is under new management. The Iraqi government is looking to instigate lawsuits concerning several incidents involving the private security company.


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US President Obama celebrates his first Martin Luther King Jr. Day while in office

January 19, 2010 🇺🇸 On Sunday, at a Bapist church originally founded by freed slaves, US President Barack Obama addressed the congregation about the "Dream" of slain civil rights activist Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.—whom Obama credits with paving the way for his 2008 election—and about the importance of hope and faith in his own life.

On Monday, Obama, with his family in tow, served hot lunches at a local Washington soup kitchen—one of several ways America's first black president planned to pay tribute to the late Dr. King on the federal holiday that honors his legacy and lasting impact upon society.

Later at the White House, Obama will host a gathering consisting of small selected group of African-American seniors and their grandchildren where they will discuss the meaning of the civil rights movement and how it still effects them to this day. Following which, that evening, the Obamas are slated to attend the "Let Freedom Ring" concert at the Kennedy Center. A musical event that will feature gospel artists and choir members from various area churches among other houses of worship.

Another prominent American politician, governor-elect of New Jersey, Chris Christie held a banquet on Monday evening to honor the importance of Dr. King's message as well. Other commemorations included a march in Seattle where participants rallied for issues in the African-American community.

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 * Be somewhat nice if the article specified what the security problem was that prompted this. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:07, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


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