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Benedict XVI meets Dalai-Lama

October 14, 2006

The very long lasting previous pope, John Paul II, had met eight times with the Dalai Lama but the recently elected pope did not talk to him before yesterday.

The visit was "private" and focused exclusively on "religious" matters, a Vatican spokesman said. The Vatican has kept a low profile on past visits by the Dalai Lama, including his last in 2003 with John Paul II, to avoid a further chill with China.

China's government bars Catholics from having contact with the Vatican and allows worship only in government-monitored churches. Millions remain loyal to the pope and worship in secret, but priests and other members of congregations are frequently detained and harassed.

The pope also met with Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi earlier in the day, as well as Polish Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski yesterday, both of them were documented on the Vatican's Web site.

The pope's meeting with the Tibetan leader was not listed among his official audiences. Journalists were kept well away and no pictures of the encounter have been released. The Vatican has not released any details of the visit.

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Mediterranean diet reduces risk of Alzheimer's disease, study concludes

October 14, 2006 U.S. scientists prospectively analysed the health and eating pattern of 2,258 study participants and found a link between a Mediterranean diet and a decreased risk of Alzheimer's disease, the most common cause of dementia.

Participants were scored on their use of fruits, vegetables, legumes, cereals and fish (which were considered beneficial in this study), and dairy products and meat, which were regarded as being detrimental to the subjects health. A moderate fat and alcohol intake was also considered part of a typical Mediterranean diet. Potential statistical confounders such as age, sex, ethnicity, education, Apo E genotype, caloric intake and body mass index were taken into account.

"This large study in a leading journal adds to the growing weight of evidence that diet and lifestyle are very important risk factors for Alzheimer's disease." was the reaction of Professor Clive Ballard of the Alzheimer's Society.


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Talk:Pitt and Jolie's guard pulls gun on photographer in Pune, India

Brangelina?
The term Brangelina seems very disrespectful to me. Maybe "Pitt and Jolie's security guard pulls gun on photographer in India"? TRWBW 09:16, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd sugest saying "Pune, India" to be specific. Other than that, I have no problems with such a title change, except that it might be a tad long. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 11:42, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I changed it to "Pitt and Jolie's guard pulls gun on photographer in Pune, India" He claims self-defense, until he gets convicted of "menacing" or its Indian equivalent, I think its safer to just say "pulls". TRWBW 17:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)


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"One-litre car" may help traffic pollution

October 14, 2006

Professors at the Energy Science Centre, attached to the Federal Institute of Technology (ETHZ) in Zurich, have presented their contribution of a car quite similar to Loremo able to travel 100 kilometres (around 62 miles) on a tank with just 1 litre (around 1 quart), equalling to about 235 miles per gallon. They presented their contribution during Swiss Energy Week.

The automobile, which has and will be manufactured by the Swiss company Horlacher, is 75% lighter than an average family car and guzzles a tenth of the fuel thanks to vastly improved aerodynamics. One drawback to this car is that it has none of the modern safety features found in many cars to-day. But the FIT team is designing technology that lets cars communicate with each other to avoid collisions, using similar computer systems to those in aircraft.

"This car does compromise on style, speed and comfort, but you can't have a free lunch," says Lino Guzzella, one of the centre's members

"Business as usual is no longer an option. If we are to survive in the future, we will have to drastically reduce carbon emissions." Guzzella continued.

There are approximately 800 million cars on this planet and in Switzerland there are 500 cars per 1,000 people, compared with 800 in the United States and less than 50 per 1,000 in India and China. Swiss drivers also favour more powerful, polluting vehicles than the rest of western Europe. According to the European Automobile Manufacturers Association, the main lobbying group of the automobile industry in the European Union, the average car in Switzerland has a 2 litre engine compared with 1.6 litres in neighbouring countries.

"The Swiss think they are better at cutting harmful emissions than anyone else, but they are not," says researcher Peter de Haan van der Weg.

He believes Switzerland should introduce incentives to make people buy cleaner cars. Some countries already have such schemes: the US awards tax breaks worth up to $3,000 and the Netherlands offers €6,000 to green car owners.

The Swiss authorities are currently thinking about two similar options presented by the city of Bern and the centre-left Social Democratic Party.

"Individuals are not capable of understanding the big picture because it is difficult for people to look 50 years into the future," Mr. De Haan van der Weg said.

"Therefore it is necessary to have government regulations to force changes that will benefit the environment."


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Wikinews interviews South Koreans about relations with North Korea

October 23, 2006

An informal poll by a Wikinews reporter found that very few of those South Koreans polled changed their mind about reunification with North Korea and the perceived threat posed by the North, following the nuclear weapons test by North Korea on October 9. The poll was not a true statistical survey and its results should not be viewed as representative of the population at large.

The poll found that a majority of respondents perceived a threat from North Korea and wanted the South to "demand/expect" more in its negotiations with the North, a majority also supported eventual reunification and a role for Japan, the United States and China in talks, but fewer believed that reunification will take place.

The poll was conducted at a terminal hall in Incheon Airport and on board an airplane en Route from Incheon to Paris on October 12.

While the question of whether South Korea was threatened by the North was viewed differently by different people, the number of those that answered "yes" or "possibly" was double that of those answering "no" or "not really".

While a majority of those questioned supported eventual reunification, fewer believed that reunification will take place in the near future.

Respondents also wanted South Korea to "demand/expect more" in its negotiations with the North.

Those interviewed also showed more support for the involvement of Japan, the United States and China in the talks, with support in that order.

Those polled reported their ages, which ranged from 20 to 67, and included several businessmen, musicians, students and a housewife. Not all those asked agreed to fill in the multiple choice questionnaire, which was in Korean. All of those that gave the additional information on nationality, age and occupation stated "Korean" or "South Korean" as their nationality.

The respondents were told that the poll was being conducted by a German national and was intended to be used as the basis for an online article.

Related news

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Talk:Wikinews interviews South Koreans about relations with North Korea

Original reporting
Summary: I conducted a poll in Incheon Airport and on the Flight to Paris in which 44 people filled out a Korean language questionare, and I've put together the data and some statisticics in an  and excel spreadsheet.

Ok what I wrote before had been somewhat hastily patched together. So a longer explanation: I had prepared a (I was prompted by the nuclear test of course). A friend of mine ( a Korean) who was with me in Korea was so kind and translated it from German into Korean ( the english translations to be read here were by me from german into english) For those without openoffice, here are photos of the questionare (in Korean and an englisch translation I was planning to use as well).

Due to time constraints, we didn't get round to actually conducting the Poll till at the airport on the day of our departure :D. Me and my freind had flown to Korea 7 weeks earlier, on the 21. of August. We stayed at his family, traveled around, and worked at a school for mentally disabled children. But back to the poll. The Questionaire was multiple choice, and had a compulsery front, and an optional reverse. Most people we advanced on together, me saying hello in Korean, and Sang Geol than explaining, that we (or I) would like them to fill out the questionaire, so that I could write an article online with the data we would acquire. I´m not sure if he actually mentioned Wikinews (but it did say that at the bottom of the page). We would then go on to ask the next people (after offering a pen), and some time later went around to collect the questionaires. That was our method both at the terminal (which was right before the boarding gate) and on the plane (on the plane we also tried to time it to avoid flight attendants, and went arount at times when most people were awake, and not engaged with their meals. Of course, quite a number of people did not want to fill out the questionare, but I would guess that roughly every other person agreed to do so. One women did ask if I was a student of sociology, and commented that it was a neat Idea to conduct the poll during the flight, as most people were bored. I tried to tell her in english, that it was more due to necessety that we were doing it in the plane, but I don't think she understood.

Back in Germany, I transferred the choices from the Questionares into a spreadsheet, and when I was finished, I double checked that I had made no mistakes (I had actually made just one :D ). I also filled in the extra infos, where they had been given (after Sang Geol had translated the occupations for me. I then added some statistical evaluation to the spreadsheets (number of people answering each of the possible answers). That was about it then. I do have quite a number of comments in Korean here as well, but my friend didn't feel like translating them. If anybody wants a photo of any of the questionaires, I've numbered them through, so I could happily upload a few. Regards Sean Heron 21:13, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Poll results
Draft copy from srpeadsheet above, needs to be verified, formatted and moved to article

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the "not impressed" is interpreting the resulst, something i would like to avoid. how about "Wikinews interviews South Koreans following North Korea's nuclear test"? — Doldrums(talk) 06:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

fyi
Not important for the article, but I just thought I'd mention: Such a high precentage of Koreans play online games that you might get a more realistic sample in a Korean MMORG. You'd just need to pick one where everybody plays, not just hard core gamers. I'm not sure if gender & age demographics are available for the various online games.

People who travel abroad are a rather self selected lot & often know about politics. Almost surely this polarizes the reunification question, i.e. reduced the don't knows, but it may impact other things too. Nyarlathotep 13:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

 * hmmm...this isn't really a statistically valid opinion poll, which is why the article's tagged with lots of disclaimers and the title says "interviews" instead of a unqualified "polls". i was suggesting street corner polls, but the online game is (perhaps a more) interesting idea. might well be a pioneering one? — Doldrums(talk) 13:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I know its an "interview". :) Online games are unlikely to give you a statistically significant sample outside of the very few countries where they are a major national passtime.

In other countries, you'd need some specific reason to focus on just gamers, such as viewing them as an advertising demographic. I'm amused by idea of an advertising company who pays servey respondents in gold. :) Nyarlathotep 13:16, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

demand/expect
We're translating this article into Japanese as ja:インタビュー：韓国国民が考える北朝鮮との関係, but what do you mean "demand/expect"?--っ 13:47, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * "demand/expect" is meant to be "demand and/or expect more from North Korea in negotiations", i think. the actual questionaies themselves available above. — Doldrums(talk) 14:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you.--っ 15:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


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Interview with Brodrick Thorpe, City Council candidate for Ward 10 in Mississauga, Canada

October 17, 2006

The upcoming 2006 Mississauga municipal election, to be held November 13, features an array of candidates looking to represent their wards in city council.

Wikinews contributor Nicholas Moreau has contacted as many candidates as possible, including Brodrick Thorpe, asking them to answer common questions sent in an email. There is no incumbent in the newly created ward; the sixteen residents competing for the position are Shah Rukh Alam, John Briers, Tony Ciufo, Jamie Dookie, Dale D'Souza, Prag Euclid, Adnan Hashmi, Elias Hazineh, Jack Janiak, Fasal Javaid, Craig Lawrence, Sue M. McFadden, Patrick Mendes, Barbara Polis, Graziano Roti, Ali Tahmourpour, and Scott Wilson.

Interview
Q: List the three most important issues in your campaign, and briefly explain why these are important.
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 * THE MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC WITHIN WARD 10, COMPLETION OF ROADS - This is important to protect the safety of the residents of ward 10 and to ease the traffic congestion in and out of this area. The early morning commute with all the school buses is very slow and congested.

 * ENVIROMENTAL [sic] ISSUES, RECYCLING, POLLUTION - These issues should be important to everyone, the reduction of waste products and the conservation of resources will help us reduce processes that create pollution.

 * IMPROVED SOCIAL SERVICES LIKE CHILDCARE AND TRANSIT - The children are the future. Many homes now require that both parents work. Our children need to learn skills under the proper guidance to become assets to the community. Expanded transit is a cost effect way to get cars of the street and aid with the traffic movement and pollution.

Q: Of the decisions made by council since the last election, which one would you have changed, and why?
 * A: The decision I would have changed is the one concerning store openings on Labour Day. I am a member of an organized union and believe it should be kept a holiday.

Q: What one election issue do you feel is most relevant to your ward in this election?
 * A: The development and completion of roads, parks, schools, and community centres in Ward 10.

Q: What vision do you have, for what you ward should look like?
 * A: My vision is safe neighbourhoods where people look out for one another. It is an area the [sic] has several parks and community centres that are easily accessible to all residents, minimal traffic and little congestion.

Q: What service is most lacking in Mississauga?
 * A: Transit.

Q: What are your opinions on Mississauga's congestion and public transit funding?
 * A: I think more has to be done to relieve the bottlenecks and more funding for public transit would aid in that.

Q: The city recently released a study regarding transforming the City Hall and area. How do you feel about these plans?
 * A: I am in favour of any transformation that continues to offer services to the cities [sic] residents. I have no problem with the way it is now, my wedding photos were taken there, but the plans I have heard sound interesting.

Q: How do you feel about Mississauga's rate of expansion?
 * A: I don't mind the expansion, but I don't like the high density approach.

Q: Why should businesses be attracted to locating in Mississauga?
 * A: I am in favour of any business as long as it does not create environmental hazards or is a visible eye sore. Mississauga has great highway access and is close to the airport making it a great location for most industries.

Q: How could Mississauga further itself in attracting corporate investment?
 * A: I think they just have to continue on the path they are on, maintain and upgrade current projects, and keep offering cost effective solutions to potential investors.

Q: Why have you chosen to involve yourself in the political process?
 * A: I feel it is time for a younger person that has more in common with the residents to be a leader. Ward 10 is a young ward filled with young couples with young children who will be able to reap the rewards of this vibrant neighbourhood. I fit into that same category.

Q: Why do you want to represent your ward on council?
 * A: I think it is time for someone younger to take over. The decisions being made are for the younger generations future and we should have an input.

Q: How are you currently involved in the community?
 * A: I am involved with a ministry that mentors young men. I have also canvassed for ADRA, the cancer society, and the diabetes association.

Q: Many councillors are quite seasoned in the civic political process. What could you bring to the table as a "rookie", above and beyond the current roster of councillors?
 * A: I think the councillors are too seasoned, and it is time for new ideas, and new approaches. I would bring youthful excitement and energy.

Q: What does Mississauga mean to you?
 * A: Mississauga to me is a quiet area away from the big city with fresh air, friendly neighbours, and a world of potential.


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Italy qualify for 2007 Rugby World Cup in France

October 14, 2006 Italy have qualified for the 2007 Rugby World Cup in France. Italy began their qualification process in Round 5 of the European tournaments. The Italians went through relatively easily, finishing with a 150-7 aggregate score over their only two games.

Italy in Pool A of Round 5, won their first match against Portugal 83 points to nil in L'Aquila on October 7. The following week they defeated Russia 67 to 7 in Moscow, sealing top position in the pool and sending them into next year's World Cup as Europe 1.

Italy enters Pool C of the World Cup, alongside the All Blacks of New Zealand and Scotland, as well as two other nations that have yet to qualify (Europe 2 and Repechage 1). Italy have appeared at every World Cup since the first tournament in 1987, their best result being in 2003 with two wins. Portugal and Russia both can still qualify for the World Cup, with the nations meeting next week in Lisbon. The second placed team in the pool will advance to Round 6 to play the runner-up of Pool B.


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Controversy-plagued Element 118, the heaviest atom yet, finally discovered

October 14, 2006 Element 118 has been created in experiments conducted in Dubna, Russia by a collaboration of researchers from Russia's Joint Institute for Nuclear Research and from the United States' Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

The reaction, producing three atoms of element 118, the heaviest element yet found, through collisions that fused together Californium and Calcium atoms, was observed at Dubna. Although element 118 is too unstable to detect directly, the presence of daughter elements resulting from the decay of element 118 gave clues to its fleeting existence. The discovery was reported in the American Physical Society journal Physical Review C on October 9, 2006.

Researchers at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory previously reported the synthesis of element 118 in 1999, and later retracted their results when subsequent experiments failed to confirm their discovery. It was alleged that a lead researcher, Victor Ninov, fabricated the experimental data that indicated the formation of three element 118 atoms.


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Talk:Mediterranean diet reduces risk of Alzheimer's disease, study concludes

 * With those three different people not showing enthousiasm about the pertinence of my neverheless recent Turkish source...

(cur) (last) 15:06, 14 October 2006 FellowWikiNews (Talk | contribs) (Put {notnews} instead of speedy.)

(cur) (last) 13:12, 14 October 2006 82.224.88.52 (Talk) {delete|deletion asked by the author}

(cur) (last) 11:49, 14 October 2006 Brianmc (Talk | contribs) (not finished, material doesn't go after sources)

(cur) (last) 11:34, 14 October 2006 82.224.88.52 (Talk) (Please avoid removing not ultimate flags such as {finished} just saying I disagree that this article is ready to be published))

(cur) (last) 11:27, 14 October 2006 Apartmento2 (Talk | contribs) (I disagree that this article is ready to be published)

 * ...why keep my article if none of them pinpoint precisely what's wrong with it. 82.224.88.52 15:51, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I removed the speedy template because this article should not be speedied. F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  15:56, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * There are a couple of sources on Google news. See . F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  16:00, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * My Turkish source is imho the one nearer from Méditerranée. 82.224.88.52 16:04, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This article sounds ready to be published, imo. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  16:06, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Issues: In addition, the first use of "Mediterranean diet" should use quotes.
 * 1) First sentence is grandstanding crap & totally misrepresents the research, by implying that fruits are not required.
 * 2) Second sentence has a place, but its wording is pure grandstanding
 * 3) Third sentence actually manages to misattribute the research!!

I've removed Turkey as a category, if you need a national category Greece is the appropriate one, but this diet extenst as far as southern France, Portugal, and Morocco.

See also fatness issues and the following wikipedia quote:

 * There is also the far simpler explanation that inhabitants of the Mediterranean, and Europe in general, tend to lack the heavy reliance on the automobile as the basic means of transportation, and are far more likely to walk relatively short distances than Americans.

Nyarlathotep 17:06, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

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This does not read like an article written by a native English speaker, and reads like an advert for the BBC report. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:41, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm not a native ;-))) and you knew it since France was beaten by Scotland at soccer. Anyway, I feel rather disappointed that all my text has vanished even if the new one is obviously better. Let me suggest to replace the last source by this one 82.224.88.52 04:22, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

... unless PDF reprints are allowed
Theres an anon who wants to add something to it or something like that - see Post-scriptorium on mediterain diet (or something like that, I'm using lynx so I proabblly got the name slightly worng). Happy editing. 24.65.46.104 05:13, 15 October 2006 (UTC) - user:Bawolff

 * It's me the anon ;-))) but I don't want to add anything on the actual article because it won't be printed again since the date is yesterday's one. 82.224.88.52 05:20, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Intro paragraphs
I removed this intro:

"In the previous centuries in Middle East, there were no need for diet prescriptions to put on one's table vegetables and fruits, mainly of the citrus family. Nowadays, the young generation is less likely to walk relatively short distances and is driven by advertisements to use more occidental recipes including hamburgers in fast-food restaurants."

I found no equivalent for it in the study or in the news sources, so I think this might be some form of original reporting that is not NPOV and lacks original reporting notes.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:13, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


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User:Dtobias

I haven't really gotten around to putting a user page here, but you can see my page on en.wikipedia.

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Bodies found along Florida highway identified

October 15, 2006 A family of four found shot to death Friday alongside Florida's Turnpike in Fort Pierce, Florida was identified Saturday.

The bodies of Jose Luis Escobedo Jr., 28, Yessica Escobedo, 25, and their two sons, Luis Damian, 3, and Luis Julian, 4, were identified by St. Lucie County Sheriff Ken Mascara.

Sheriff's deputies are also looking for the family's car, a black 1998 Jeep Cherokee with temporary Florida licence plate M952180 in the rear window. Authorities believe that this was a suspect's car, as it was not at the victim's home, but neighbors of the family said that it was their car.

Sheriff Ken Mascara has said that the victims pulled their vehicle off the Turnpike between 1:30 and 3 a.m. when someone in the vehicle shot them and drove away.

A woman who lives across the turnpike reported hearing a series of six loud pops around 2:24 a.m. The woman and her husband looked outside, but could not see anything in the dark.

The St. Lucie County Sheriff's office has set up a tip line. Those with information are encouraged to call 1-(772)-462-3230 or 1-(800)-273-TIPS.

Sheriff Mascara said that more than 200 phone calls have come in to the tip line since they opened it up Friday afternoon.


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Talk:Bodies found along Florida highway identified

Got the news through CNN. Waiting for an online source to get the full names and details. Storm5guy 16:44, 14 October 2006 (UTC)


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Copyright issue
Thanks Bawolff for your help on this image. I will call Jerome Chen by phone to have some double check for copyright issue later.--H.T. Chien / 眼鏡虎 (Discuss|Contributions) 16:44, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:Canadian PM: Liberal leadership hopefuls 'anti-Israeli'

Existence of Israel.
As of today, 24 countries do not recognise the existence of Israel. We are still discussing whether or not to represent this fact in our articles, and if not doing so would be a violation of our neutrality policy. For more details, please see Water cooler/policy/Israel Recognition POV. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) 16:59, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I have added in "As of today, 24 countries do not recognise the existence of Israel."  F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  17:16, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks! PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 03:55, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

It is incorrect to put Israel in quotes. It makes it seem like the person being quoted had said "quote Israel unquote" or otherwise questioned the notion of Israel. -- IlyaHaykinson 09:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

something doesn't click here
The article to me seems to imply that because a candidate of the liberal party feels Isreal commited war crimes, that the entire party thinks they commited war crimes and don't exsist (which acording to the facts in the article, no one ever said they don't exisit. (of the liberal party, I know thoose 24 countries disagree with their exsitance)). That just sounds like the article is jumping to conclussions. user:Bawolff 05:29, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The use of the term "Israel" is disputable since 24 nations do not recognise its existence. Hence, since we have used the term "Israel", I have added the map. I do not see any implication that the Canadian Liberal Party does/does not recognise Israel. As for the candidate views reflecting those of his party, perhaps we should mention that he did not claim to be speaking on his party's behalf at the time. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 10:03, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * What other name would you use to refer to "Israel"? -Edbrown05 09:33, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I do not mind Wikinews refering to "Israel" as such, but I insist that we mention the fact that 24 countries do not recognise "Israel". We may also consider calling that state the Zionist regime. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 10:44, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * no, definitevly no. It's not Wikinews role to change official name of a country. you'ld read CIA fact book on the France entry.  Jacques Divol 12:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

israel saga
israel's relations with the 24 countries is absolutely irrelevant here. mentioning only the non-recognising while omitting the recognisers is pov. — Doldrums(talk) 12:53, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * i agree Jacques Divol 12:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The map lists the countries that recognise Israel. We can remove the "24 countries" text if you wish. Anyway a discussion (which is probably a continuation of the WC discussion) is ongoing at Category:Israel. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 13:01, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * u've still to explain the relevence, and there's no mention of countries that recognise Israel in the map. — Doldrums(talk) 13:07, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I am against any reconciliation with Israel. I do not even recognize the presence of a state that is called "Israel." I consider its presence both unjust and unlawful. Therefore, we cannot acknowledge the existence of a state called Israel, not even far in the future, as some people have tried to suggest. This is what Hassan Nasrallah (Secretary-General of Hezbollah) has to to say about the existence of Israel. Thus, by implying that Israel's existence is undisputed, Wikinews is at the very leastunfairly supressing the POV of one party, while furthering the POV of entities that do recognise Israel's existence. This is the relevance. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 13:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * WN:NPOV doesn't require every opinion everyone has of everything mentioned in an article to be included. there's such a thing as relevence. one canadian politician calls some others "anti-Israeli", whats that got to do with what Nasrallah or the famous 24 think of Israel? — Doldrums(talk) 13:20, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

 * there's no mention of countries that recognise Israel in the map We can add it. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 13:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * give me a reason for including the map at all, and then we'll think about npov-ing its caption. — Doldrums(talk) 13:20, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I gave you two choices for a compromise-the map, or a sentence mentioing Israel's disputed existence. Please refer to the Category:Israel page for more details. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 13:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

PS-Can we carry on this discussion on one page instead of across pages?
 * am not asking for choices. am asking for a reason why every mention of Israel needs all the qualifications u r suggesting. if u want all the disc. to take place in one place, then stop implementing ur suggestions, which everyone who's spoken about it has opposed, all over wikinews. — Doldrums(talk) 13:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I am not implementing anything, I am only adding an NPOV tag to Israel-related articles till the issue is resolved. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 13:37, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

is this  how u usually add npov tags? — Doldrums(talk) 13:42, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I have replied to certain points raised by you here. Also, you have already broken the 3RR in this article. I ask that you stop now and accept the interim arrangement of having both the map and the NPOV tag in place. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 13:49, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

What certain Muslim nations think of that which is referred to by the Canadians as Israel isn't really relevant in an article about the political stance of some Canadians. It's a stretch, at best. -- IlyaHaykinson 14:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Doldrums is already edit-warring his POV all over the article. Get him to stop, and I'll agree to continue this discussion. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 14:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Why would I get him to stop? I agree with his stance, and do not see it as POV-warring: I think it's more of your misinterpretation of what the NPOV policy calls for that causes this conflict. -- IlyaHaykinson 14:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Stop that PVJ59 : do not try to push Doldrums to do a mistake just because of your personnal war with Israel. What's your are doing here is wrong PVJ59, you hurt me and many contributors.
 * Why would I be hurting you, or anyone else for the matter? The views I have expressed are not my own, they are the POVs of certain other parties. POVs which must be mentioned to abide by NPOV. Also, I can assure you that I have not declared war against Israel :-). If anything Jaqcues, you are the one who has hurt me with your comments about how "Islam has influenced me". PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 14:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Jacques Divol 14:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Jacques Divol 14:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Let me get this straight Ilya, when I make 4 reverts to that New York plane crash article, you take the trouble to warn me on my talk-page. But when Doldrums makes 5 or 6 reverts to this article within a few hours, you do nothing. Why? Because you "agree with his stance"? You're an arbitrator Ilya. If you're not fair, who will be? PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 14:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough, he's been warned; I had not noticed the violations; please consider yourself warned too. -- IlyaHaykinson 15:12, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Now may I ask that the article (which deals with the actions of the allegedly non-existent state of Israel) be tagged or  till the dispute over whether Israel should be mentioned without disclaimers is resolved, or at the very least, till the discussion on this page is concluded? As far as I know it is not conventional to publish articles which are under dispute, which is why I am asking that this article be tagged accordingly. Also please refer to the style guide which states that  may be added if You believe the article to contain an explicit or implicit bias, or presenting only one point of view in a contentious issue I have expressed such concerns about this article, and belive it is my right to tag the article as such. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 15:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

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this has been discussed before. this image is of no relevence to this article. u've been asked three times to show the relevence, and you have not done so. — Doldrums(talk) 07:23, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I did explain to you that using the word "Israel" is POV since "Israel" may be non-existent. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 07:36, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * who says "Israel is non-existent"? — Doldrums(talk) 07:37, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I am against any reconciliation with Israel. I do not even recognize the presence of a state that is called "Israel." I consider its presence both unjust and unlawful. Therefore, we cannot acknowledge the existence of a state called Israel, not even far in the future, as some people have tried to suggest. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 07:46, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * says he doesnt recognise it & that he considers its presence unjust. doesnt say "it doesn't exist". — Doldrums(talk) 07:49, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * and since when did Nasrallah become an authorised spokesman for 24 countries? — Doldrums(talk) 08:05, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * He speaks on behalf on Hezbollah, clarifyng that his party does not "acknowledge the existence of a state called Israel". PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 08:08, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * and why shld an article on what one canadian politician calls another include the Hezbollah's view of something that the canadian's label was about? and that, to the exclusion of all other views.
 * The article involves "Israel", which Hezbollah claims doesn't exist. It would be unfair to suppress Hezbollah's POV on this matter. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 08:24, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

i now ask you, for the fifth time, to explain why Nasrallah view is relevent to this article, to the exclusion of all other views on Israel. i point out that by ur argument, every mention of say, Islam, should be followed by quote from a friendly neighbourhood Islamophobe, to the exclusion of all others. i also remind you that published articles should stay published (or have a correction issued, if factually wrong). i expect you to revert ur unpublishing. — Doldrums(talk) 08:38, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Nasrallah was explaining the view of his party Hezbollah. Hezbollah's POV is that the "State of Israel" (refered to simply as "Israel") is non-existent. Mentioning "Israel" without appropriate disclaimers explaining the fact that it may be non-existent amounts to endorsing the POV that "Israel" undisputedly exists. This would be pushing the POV of states who do believe in "Israel"'s existence. Thus every article which mentions the supposedly non-existent entity known as Israel must display disclaimers clarifying the disputed nature of Israel's existence. This article does mention Israel and hence it must also bear the necessary disclaimers in order to maintain NPOV.
 * u're now back to ur first comment in this section. articles are not going to sit around in development while u go around in circles. — Doldrums(talk) 11:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * An Islamophobe's comments on Islam, or an anti-Semite's rants about Judaism are racist in nature. They are in no way comparable to the political position held by Hezbollah on the existence of Israel. If you manage to find somebody (who is in a position of authority) who claims that Saudi Arabia does not exist, I will personally ensure that appropriate disclaimers are added to articles that mention Saudi Arabia.
 * NPOV is one of our most important policies and it is our duty to abide by it. Hence articles must not be allowed to remain published unless they are completely neutral in nature.
 * and u're the sole arbiter of what is or what is not npov? — Doldrums(talk) 11:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * My choice of disclamier is not the only one we have. You are welcome to suggest alternatives to adding the map. I would suggest either mentioning the fact that Hezbollah does not recognise Israel's existence or make a . PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 10:50, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * my alternative is to not add the map. u tell me why Israel is inseparable from Hezbollah's view of Israel and i'll consider ur second alternative. if u're striving to put Hezbollah's view into this article, why are adding a map about the diplomatic stance of 24 countries in it, instead of adding Nasrallah's words?

— Doldrums(talk) 11:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I assumed you wouldn't react favourably to the words being added, but that seems a reasonable solution as far as this article is concerned. I am still trying to ascertain whether the 24 countries do not recognise Israel's existence or whether they do not give it diplomatic existence. If it is the former, we will have to make the necessary changes. Till then, adding Nasrallah's words will do. I have already explaine to the best of my ability why it is unfair to imply that Israel's existence is undisputed when Hezbollah does not recognise its existence. I suggest you go over my earlier statements and try once again to understand them. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 11:24, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * and while u indefinitely look for non-existent statements from the 24, the articles sits in development? Nasrallah's not the only who has a view on Israel. lots of people do. which is why, there's no need to include any of them unless you can show a relevence. u've not shown that Nasrallah believes that Israel does not exist, let alone 24 countries. and if the question is not about existence, then u have no reason to insist on adding any of these views into the article. — Doldrums(talk) 11:29, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Nasrallah stated that his party does not "acknowledge the existence of Israel". I have already provided you with a link to that quote. I stated that for the time being you could add Hezbollah's position to the article and publish it till I get statements from the 24 countries. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 11:41, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * u still haven't told me why Nasrallah's statement is needed here. all that crud about Israel not existing doesn't hold up if the only source u have for it is the Nasrallah statement which refutes Israel's presence in one statement and acknowledges it in the next. — Doldrums(talk) 11:56, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * further, if u think we are going to add one statement to an article and publish it, till u get some other statements, i suggest u look at What Wikinews is not #5. — Doldrums(talk) 12:00, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Your inference that Hezbollah "acknowledges" Israel's existence may be erroneous. I rely on direct quotes. The quote here is "I do not recognise the existence of the state of Israel". My point has been made. That statement is going into the article. Now, let's talk about how we will add the actual statement. Would you prefer a direct quote or a sentence of our own clarifying Hezbollah's stand on this issue? PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 12:31, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * "may be erroneous"? are u saying it's wrong or are u accepting it's right? again, if u think articles will wait around while u make up ur mind...
 * your point may have been made to ur considerable satisaction, but no one else is buying it. i suggest u publish this and ponder over my inferences and search for other sources on your own time. — Doldrums(talk) 12:37, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Your inference is wrong. Now let's get this over with. Do you want to quote Nasrallah directly or do we frame our own sentence to clarify his stand on this matter?

PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) 13:23, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Nasrallah's view of Israel is not notable enough to be added to every mention of Israel. if u want to say Israel's existence is disputed, get quotes from a notable minority saying "Israel doesn't exist", Nasrallah's not notable by himself. do u know how many political leaders around the world acknowlede Israel's existence? are u going add their list to every mention of the word Israel too?  — Doldrums(talk) 13:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hezbollah is a political party with seats in the Parliament of Lebanon. Thus, it represents the opinions of the section of Lebanese citizens who voted for Hezbollah. I have no problem with adding the statements of political parties who recognise Israel (provided you can provide links to their quotes) to the article. Now, choose between quoting Hezbollah directly or framing our own sentence. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 13:49, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * hezbollah is one of a dozen parties in Lebanon. Lebanon is one of 200-somthing countries. if u want to add what all political parties all over the world think of israel, go ahead and convince people thats a good idea. if u want to pick one view among all of them, then explain why that particular view is notable.  — Doldrums(talk) 13:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Add the map, solve the problem. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 13:54, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * map doesnt say 24 countries think Israel doesnt exist. if u cant substantiate ur allegation of bias, publish the article. — Doldrums(talk) 13:56, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Does the map state that the remaining 160 countries "recognise Israel's existence"? No. So let's assume that nobody recognises Israel then?
 * Hezbollah's view must be noted alongside the other nations. Say something like "Hezbollah does not recognise Israel's existence, while 160 nations do". Provided you get me quotes from these nations stating they "recognise Israel's existence". PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 14:00, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * ur assumptions get more and more interesting and further and further away from reality. Hezbollah's views of Israel is not notable enough to be tagged to every mention of the word Israel. i've still not seen any effort from u to explain why it is. — Doldrums(talk) 14:05, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * In order to be NPOV, we must represent all sides of an arguement fairly. Hezbollah claims that Israel is non-existent. We must put that POV alongside the POV of states that (allegedly, you are yet to provide quotes) recognise Israel's existence. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 14:15, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * in order to be NPOV, we don't have to represent all views of every word used in an article. that's where relevence comes in.
 * u are misrepresenting Hezbollah's unwillingness to accept Israel as "Hezbollah claims that Israel is non-existent". at the very least, Hezbollah speaks all the time as if Israel exists.
 * see what WN:NPOV says about minority views.
 * each of these things have been pointed out to you several times before. u're neither prepared to accept nor able to rebut them. yet, u r persisting in keeping this published article in limbo. — Doldrums(talk) 14:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I have already explained the relevance to you many times over. Stop trying to stall this discussion.
 * It is not up to you or me to decide "how Hezbollah speaks". The statement they have made is that they do not recognise Israel's existence, and that's that.
 * This is not a minority view, it is the view held by a section of the Lebanese government.
 * I am rebutting your claims and have already offered you two options to end this dispute and publish the article. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 14:59, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * i take it u're also coming up with statements from 24 countries that "Israel doesn't exist". — Doldrums(talk) 08:16, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

PVJ, you didn't explain, you stated your bias which is not really shared by anyone else on this wiki... -- IlyaHaykinson 07:41, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not my bias. It is a POV held by certain countries. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 08:08, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


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Talk:Interview with Brodrick Thorpe, City Council candidate for Ward 10 in Mississauga, Canada

ALL CANDIDATES

- List the three most important issues in your campaign, and briefly explain why these are important. THE MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC WITHIN WARD 10, COMPLETION OF ROADS - This is important to protect the safety of the residents of ward 10 and to ease the traffic congestion in and out of this area. The early morning commute with all the school buses is very slow and congested. ENVIROMENTAL ISSUES, RECYCLING, POLLUTION - These issues should be important to everyone, the reduction of waste products and the conservation of resources will help us reduce processes that create pollution. IMPROVED SOCIAL SERVICES LIKE CHILDCARE AND TRANSIT - The children are the future. Many homes now require that both parents work. Our children need to learn skills under the proper guidance to become assets to the community. Expanded transit is a cost effect way to get cars of the street and aid with the traffic movement and pollution.

- What one election issue do you feel is most relevant to your ward in this election? THE DEVELOPMENT AND COMPLETION OF ROADS, PARKS, SCHOOLS, AND COMMUNITY CENTRES IN WARD 10

- What vision do you have, for what you ward should look like? MY VISION IS SAFE NEIGHBOURHOODS WHERE PEOPLE LOOK OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER. IT IS AN AREA THE HAS SEVERAL PARKS AND COMMUNITY CENTRES THAT ARE EASILY ACCESSIBLE TO ALL RESIDENTS, MINIMAL TRAFFIC AND LITTLE CONGESTION.

- What service is most lacking in Mississauga? TRANSIT - The city recenty released a study regarding transforming the City Hall and area. How do you feel about these plans? (regards THE MISSISSAUGA NEWS, "City vision taking", shapehttp://www.mississauga.com/mi/news/story/3680184p- 4254758c.html) I AM IN FAVOUR OF ANY TRANSFORMATION THAT CONTINUES TO OFFER SERVICES TO THE CITIES RESIDENTS. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE WAY IT IS NOW, MY WEDDING PHOTOS WERE TAKEN THERE, BUT THE PLANS I HAVE HEARD SOUND INTERESTIING.

- How do you feel about Mississauga's rate of expansion?

I DON'T MIND THE EXPANSION, BUT I DON'T LIKE THE HIGH DENSITY APPROACH

- What are your opinions on Mississauga's congestion and public transit funding? I THINK MORE HAS TO BE DONE TO RELIEVE THE BOTTLENECKS AND MORE FUNDING FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT WOULD AID IN THAT

- Why should businesses be attracted to locating in Mississauga? I AM IN FAVOUR OF ANY BUSINESS AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT CREATE ENVIROMENTAL HAZARDS OR IS A VISIBLE EYE SORE. MISSISSAUGA HAS GREAT HIGHWAY ACCESS AND IS CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT MAKING IT A GREAT LOCATION FOR MOST INDUSTRIES.

- How could Mississauga further itself in attracting corporate investment? I THINK THEY JUST HAVE TO CONTINUE ON THE PATH THEY ARE ON, MAINTAIN AND UPGRADE CURRENT PROJECTS, AND KEEP OFFERING COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS TO POTENTIAL INVESTORS.

- Why have you chosen to involve yourself in the political process? I FEEL IT IS TIME FOR A YOUNGER PERSON THAT HAS MORE IN COMMON WITH THE RESIDENTS TO BE A LEADER. WARD 10 IS A YOUNG WARD FILLED WITH YOUNG COUPLES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN WHO WILL BE ABLE TO REAP THE REWARDS OF THIS VIBRANT NEIGHBOURHOOD. I FIT INTO THAT SAME CATEGORY.

- What does Mississauga mean to you? MISSISSAUGA TO ME IS A QUITE AREA AWAY FROM THE BIG CITY WITH FRESH AIR, FRIENDLY NEIGHBOURS, AND A WORLD OF POTENTIAL.

Q: Of the decisions made by council since the last election, which one would you have changed, and why?

A:   The decision I would have changed is the one concerning store openings on labour day. I am a member of an organized union and believe it should be kept a holiday.

Q: Why do you want to represent your ward on council?

A:   I think it is time for someone younger to take over. The decisions being made are for the younger generations future and we should have an input.

Q: How are you currently involved in the community?

A:   I am involved with a ministry that mentors young men. I have also canvassed for ADRA, the cancer society, and the diabetes association.

Q: Many councillors are quite seasoned in the civic political process. What could you bring to the table as a "rookie", above and beyond the current roster of councillors?

A:    I think the councillors are too seasoned, and it is time for new ideas, and new approaches. I would bring youthful excitement and energy.

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Cheetahs and Blue Bulls draw 28-28 in Currie Cup rugby final

October 14, 2006

The 2006 Currie Cup domestic rugby union final ended in a draw, with the Free State Cheetahs and Blue Bulls drawing 28-all after 20 minutes of extra-time at Vodacom Park in Bloemfontein. The last time a Currie Cup final ended in a draw was in the 1989 season. The game was played in front of a packed Vodacom Park, with all tickets being sold out on the first day.

The final was the first in Bloemfontein since the 1994 season at Springbok Park, where Transvaal defeated the Free State team. The 2006 final is the third in succession which features both the Blue Bulls and Cheetahs, with the teams being the finalists since the 2004 season. The Blue Bulls won the 2004 final at Loftus Versfeld, and then in 2005 the Cheetahs defeated them at Loftus in the final. The 2006 season kicked off in June, with the regular season finishing after 14 rounds in late September. The Cheetahs finished in first place on the season table, with the Blue Bulls behind them in second place. The Blue Bulls defeated Western Province in the semi finals, with the Cheetahs defeating the Sharks to win theirs to set up the final.

The scoring opened up in the third minute with a penalty kick to the Cheetahs through Willem de Waal. Successful with the kick, the Cheetahs opened up a three point lead over the Bulls. Phillip Burger scored for the Cheetahs, and JP Nel scored his side's first try of the match, three minutes before halftime. However the conversion attempt was wide. The Cheetahs entered the halftime break leading the Bulls 14 points to eight.

Four minutes into the second half the Blue Bulls scored their second try, with Marius Delport gathering up a kick to score. Morné Steyn kicked the conversion, taking the score to 15 to 14, making it the first time in the match that the Blue Bulls were leading. The Cheetahs took back the lead in the 49th minute, with another penalty kick to take them to 17-15. A long range kick from the Blue Bulls put them back in front in the 55th minute, to lead by one point, 18-17. The Cheetahs hit back through Kabamba Floors, scoring a try minutes later. The Cheetahs extended their lead in the 60th minute with another penalty kick. With three minutes remaining, Nel scored his second try and Steyn kicked the conversion to draw the Blue Bulls level 25-all with around two minutes left in the match.

After 80 minutes the game was taken into extra time after a short break in play. The Blue Bulls were awarded a penalty after three minutes of extra time and Steyn kicked it successfully to take the Blue Bulls to 28-25. The Cheetahs came close to equalising in the seveth minute of extra time with a penalty kick, but the ball hit the upright and bounced away. Meyer Bosman kicked a penalty for the Cheetahs in the 14th minute of extra play, drawing the scores equal at 28-all. The game ended soon after, ending in a draw.


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Talk:Benedict XVI meets Dalai-Lama

The following is the text from the John Paul II article on Wikipedia:

"Tenzin Gyatso, the 14th Dalai Lama and the spiritual leader of Tibetan Buddhism, visited Pope John Paul II eight times, more than any other single dignitary. The Pope and the Dalai Lama often shared similar views and understood similar plights, both coming from peoples affected by communism."

(cur) (last) 17:08, 14 October 2006 82.224.88.52 (Talk | block) (John Paul II had met nine times with the Dalai Lama according to Bloomberg and not eight)

Bloomberg probably just made a mistake. I will change it back to eight times. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  17:30, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

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New policy at Madani High School requires non-Muslim girls to wear hijabs

October 14, 2006 The hijab, or "Muslim headscarf", is an item of clothing which is regarded by some Muslims as "compulsory" for women to wear. But for the first time in Britain, a Muslim school has declared that all girl students, including non-Muslims, will be required to wear the hijab.

Ten-percent of places at the Madani High School, a new school, will be allocated to students who are not of the Islamic faith, meaning that there will be 60 places for non-Muslim girls, who will all be expected to wear the headscarf.

The school asserts that it may require the headscarf as part of the uniform. The Commission for Racial Equality responded that the school should consider all pupils when putting together a uniform policy.

Shadow education secretary David Willetts said the move would "harm hopes of integrating communities and drive non-Muslims away".

Earlier this month Jack Straw called upon Muslim women not to wear the veil (know as a Burqa or Niqab) when meeting with MPs, saying its makes relations between different communities more difficult.


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Thai Muslim separatists kill & behead man in presence of blindfolded daughter

October 14, 2006

Patani Muslim separatists in Thailand have brutally killed & beheaded another man in southern Thailand.

Thai police colonel Thawan Nakarawong said the insurgents entered the shrimp farm where the 45-year-old Burmese man worked and shot him after blindfolding his daughter. Following his murder his head was severed from his body and deposited some 20km away.

Colonel Thawan commented to the Bangkok Post that the severed head was booby-trapped.

The separatists are believed to be affiliated with the Pattani United Liberation Organization (PULO).

This is the 20th known instance of suspected PULO insurgents beheading a victim, the last was a 41-year-old rubber worker. However, the recent incident has been described as the most gruesome murder since the military coup.


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"Friday the 13" Buffalo, New York snow storm in pictures

According to National Grid and NYSEG during an afternoon press conference, at least 300,000 people and businesses are still without power as the City of Buffalo, New York begins to clean up after the worst October lake effect snow storm in "137 years of records" being kept, according to the National Weather Service. The NOAA calls the weather event "unprecedented." Power in many areas may not be fixed until early next week. Electric crews from Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Pennsylvania have been called in to assist in the clean-up efforts, but power to many areas may not be fully restored until next weekend.

Federal aid immediately available
The Federal Emergency Management Agency or FEMA has cleared the way for at least US$5 million to be given to Erie County and Western New York to be used for the efforts of cleaning up the city. Shelters will also be reimbursed for their services. Residents will also have a chance to be reimbursed for goods, food and water that they needed to purchase during the storm. Items such as bottled water, radios and flashlights could be among those items eligible for reimbursement, according to a press conference with city officials and National Grid this afternoon.

Hundreds of trees in Buffalo and the surrounding suburbs such as Amherst and Tonawanda are severely damaged and in many cases have to be cut down completely.

Erie County has been declared a natural disaster area and the Mayor of Buffalo, Byron Brown said in a press conference yesterday that the city and county will file several applications for federal aid and assistance with FEMA.

Flooding possible
A flood watch still remains in effect for much of the region, as melting snow pack is causing storm drains to over flow, and debris from trees is causing some drains to clog completely making many inaccessible to city workers.

Delaware Park, located near the Albright Knox Art Gallery, is nearly flooded as the banks of Hoyt Lake are beginning to over flow.

City workers are working to clear debris from a main storm drain near the overpass next to the intersection of Delaware and Forest Avenues.

Spoiled food
A local business, the Lexington Co-op on Elmwood Avenue in Buffalo had to throw out nearly every perishable good in the store after being without power for almost 2 days. During the late afternoon on October 14, the Co-op acquired a generator which is currently supplying the entire store with electricity, but power itself has not yet been restored.

These pictures are just some of the very widespread damage caused by the storm. Many were taken within less than 1 mile from Forest and Elmwood in Buffalo.


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American Idol argument ends in three years probation

October 14, 2006

A man was sentenced to three years probation after he and his mother argued about "American Idol," a popular TV show in the U.S.

Cory Favreau hit his mother with a novelty bike chain in May after she expressed praise for last year's runner-up Katherine McPhee. She was treated for a cut on her head and was released, police say.

Favreau, a twenty-five-year-old native of Plattsburgh, New York, pleaded guilty to third-degree assault. He also pleaded guilty to a contempt charge for violating a court order to stay away from his mother.


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New method of displaying time patented

October 14, 2006 An American inventor has patented a pair of new time formats with a footprint less than 50% of that of conventional four-digit time. The more unusual of the two new formats, called "TWELV", dispenses with numerals altogether. In place of clock hands or digits, the new clock uses color to convey the hour and a moon image to convey the minute, which moon slowly grows throughout the course of an hour from a narrow crescent to a full-fledged circle.

The second and more approachable of the new formats retains numerical digits to indicate the minute but uses colors to convey the hour.

Early critics question whether the aesthetic benefits of the moon-clock will be sufficient to encourage users to learn the color-based time-telling system. However, the size advantages of the new system may make it particularly suitable for mobile applications, particularly cell phones, wearable computers, and head-mounted displays.

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Romania through to 2007 Rugby World Cup in France

October 14, 2006 Romania have qualified for the 2007 Rugby World Cup in France, finishing at the top of their pool during the Round 5 of the European qualifying tournaments. Romania won their first qualifying match on October 7, defeating Georgia in Bucharest 20-8. Their 43-20 win over Spain in Madrid on October 14 ensured that they qualified directly for the World Cup next year.

Romania qualified as Europe 2, joining Pool C where they will face the All Blacks, Scotland and Italy, as well as one other nation yet to qualify (Repechage 1). Romania have thus far competed at every Rugby World Cup, since the first one was held in 1987. Romania's best result is one win during the pool stages, which it has achieved at every World Cup thus far.

One of the other two nations in Round 5 can still qualify for France next year, and Georgia and Spain will meet each other in Tblisi on October 28 which will determine who finishes second in the pool and advances to Round 6. There they will face the winner from the other pool from Round 5 for the Europe 3 qualification path. The loser of Round 6 can then still qualify through repechage. Both nations have been to the World Cup previously, Spain in 1999 and Georgia in 2003.


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Interesting story. I liked your first draft; I proofread it and published it as a brief. I look forward to seeing more. --InfantGorilla 01:22, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:"Friday the 13" Buffalo, New York snow storm in pictures

Good luck to Erie County with FEMA. The Battery Park vicinity in Richmond, VA was dealt the one-two punch of Tropical Storm Ernesto, followed a week later by a nor'easter, both of which dumped a bucketful of rain causing porperty damgage... Assistance denied to Battery Park residents. -Edbrown05 06:52, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * zThe related galleries were removed because of ads and becuase I think that advertising exclusive work from others not affiliated with Wikinews is somewhat copyvio. This is a Wikinews article and if the people/copyright holders with the other photos want them on here, then feel free to upload them to WIkinews :) Jason Safoutin 20:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Most of the observations in Delaware Park were made by myself and by images I caugght of the park. I also watched the news conference this afternoon with National grid.
 * I'm curious about what OR means... 16:04, 20 January 2007 (UTC -3)

Date bump?
I will be having more pictures but have to upload them to computer then to Wikinews. Can the date be bumped when I do and can breaking stay until the likelyhood that images stop being taken. Thoughts? Jason Safoutin 20:42, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, the way I see it, when you write an article, that's what it is, however, breaking had 'ought to stay until your pictures are complete. Thunderhead (talk) 00:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

the october storm?
I admit the october storm was eventful. I got married in a church with no electricity and lost heat in my home. Those pictures dont really do it justice. It was worse in the city than the pictures make it look. However I do not think it is worth metioning so much with no mention to our other major storms. The Blizzard of 77 was alot worse. Check out the Science Museum, they are celebrating the anniversiry. Also the storms of 98 I belive it was when we set a record for snowfall in 24 hours. Then the storm of Christmas 2001 and Nov of 2000 that left the whole city stranded.Im sure there was alot of significant weather in our 200 year history to cut down on the October storm.

Protected?
Why's the article protected? Osgoodelawyer 16:36, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * all Wikinews articles are protected about a fortnight after publication, as per Archive conventions. — Doldrums(talk) 17:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

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Please change Image:000 0296.JPG to Image:Buffalo snow storm28.jpg, the copy on Commons, and then delete the local copy. Adambro (talk) 12:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅. Cirt (talk) 12:47, 25 May 2008 (UTC)