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User talk:38.103.32.2

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Sean Penn endorses Kucinich for US President
I noticed you added new content to the article, Sean Penn endorses Kucinich for US President, which is more than 24 hours old. Thanks for taking an active role in improving the content on this site. People like you who take an active role make Wikinews better for all of us — readers and writers alike.

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Again, thanks for helping improve this site. —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 17:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

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Jump5 plays their last concert, disbanding after nine years

December 20, 2007 On Sunday, after nine years of touring and recording, Christian pop group JUMP5 performed their last show in Nashville, Tennessee.

Playing at Rocketown in downtown Nashville, the performance reunited the group of four with Libby Hodges, who left the group in 2004.

Preceded by a VIP meet-and-greet, the show was scheduled to start at 7 p.m. Opening for JUMP5 were pureNRG, Cali, and Jessie Daniels, three artists who were touring with the group on their "Hello & Goodbye Tour".

The tour stopped in 30 cities across North America, playing to over 25,000.

Group member Brittany Hargest said in press materials, that it's "hard to believe that everything is ending after this show. We've spent our last nine years together doing shows and touring the country, and its all coming to an end."

"We have been so blessed to be a part of your lives for so long," she said, thanking their fans for continued support.

Created in the era of long-gone acts like N*SYNC, Aaron Carter, and the A*Teens, and when Britney Spears wasn't nightly fodder for talk show hosts, JUMP5 managed to stay active and for the most part together throughout the years. Even nine years in, the song "Shoot the Moon" from their album "Hello & Goodbye" was able to chart on Radio Disney, one of the key indicators of success in the youth-targeted pop market.

The band has recently released an online-only holiday album, Christmas Like This, which is available on iTunes and Rhapsody.

Over their nine years, siblings Brandon and Brittany Hargest, along with childhood friends Lesley Moore, Chris Fedun and Libby Hodges sold over 1.4 million albums, and touring with Radio Disney.

Soundtracks for kids movies and TV shows included them with some regularity. Jump5 were heard in The Lizzie McGuire Movie, Sleepover, Spy Kids, Ella Enchanted, Ice Princess, and Brother Bear. Best Picture-nominee Beauty and the Beast included one of their tracks on its DVD release. MTV's Newport Harbor, Disney Channel's Kim Possible and the Lilo & Stitch: The Series all featured their songs. Once the group even performed for United States President Bush at the White House.

Wikinews was there
Photographer Jeb Wilson from Nashville Photography Group attended the farewell concert on behalf of Wikinews. Locally based, concerts and other live events are among their specialties.

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User talk:Neparis

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Israel Journal: Is Yossi Vardi a good father to his entrepreneurial children?

December 20, 2007

''Wikinews reporter David Shankbone is currently, courtesy of the Israeli government and friends, visiting Israel. This is a first-hand account of his experiences and may — as a result — not fully comply with Wikinews' neutrality policy. Please note this is a journalism experiment for Wikinews and put constructive criticism on the collaboration page.''

Dr. Yossi Vardi is known as Israel's 'Father of the Entrepreneur', and he has many children in the form of technology companies he has helped to incubate in Tel Aviv's booming Internet sector. At the offices of Superna, one such company, he introduced a whirlwind of presentations from his baby incubators to a group of journalists. What stuck most in my head was when Vardi said, "What is important is not the technology, but the talent." Perhaps because he repeated this after each young Internet entrepreneur showed us his or her latest creation under Vardi's tutelage. I had a sense of déjà vu from this mantra. A casual reader of the newspapers during the Dot.com boom will remember a glut of stories that could be called "The Rise of the Failure"; people whose technology companies had collapsed were suddenly hot commodities to start up new companies. This seemingly paradoxical thinking was talked about as new back then; but even Thomas Edison—the Father of Invention—is oft-quoted for saying, "I have not failed. I have just found ten thousand ways that won’t work."

Vardi's focus on encouraging his brood of talent regardless of the practicalities stuck out to me because of a recent pair of "dueling studies" The New York Times has printed. These are the sort of studies that confuse parents on how to raise their kids. The first, by Carol Dweck at Stanford University, came to the conclusion that children who are not praised for their efforts, regardless of the outcome's success, rarely attempt more challenging and complex pursuits. According to Dweck's study, when a child knows that they will receive praise for being right instead of for tackling difficult problems, even if they fail, they will simply elect to take on easy tasks in which they are assured of finding the solution. Only one month earlier the Times produced another story for parents to agonize over, this time based on a study from the Brookings Institution, entitled "Are Kids Getting Too Much Praise?" Unlike Dweck's clinical study, Brookings drew conclusions from statistical data that could be influenced by a variety of factors (since there was no clinical control). The study found American kids are far more confident that they have done well than their Korean counterparts, even when the inverse is true. The Times adds in the words of a Harvard faculty psychologist who intoned, “Self-esteem is based on real accomplishments. It’s all about letting kids shine in a realistic way.” But this is not the first time the self-esteem generation's proponents have been criticized.

Vardi clearly would find himself encouraged by Dweck's study, though, based upon how often he seemed to ask us to keep our eyes on the people more than the products. That's not to say he has not found his latest ICQ, though only time—and consumers—will tell.

For a Web 2.User like myself, I was most fascinated by Fixya, a site that, like Wikipedia, exists on the free work of people with knowledge. Fixya is a tech support site where people who are having problems with equipment ask a question and it is answered by registered "experts." These experts are the equivalent of Wikipedia’s editors: they are self-ordained purveyors of solutions. But instead of solving a mystery of knowledge a reader has in their head, these experts solve a problem related to something you have bought and do not understand. From baby cribs to cellular phones, over 500,000 products are “supported” on Fixya’s website. The Fixya business model relies upon the good will of its experts to want to help other people through the ever-expanding world of consumer appliances. But it is different from Wikipedia in two important ways. First, Fixya is for-profit. The altruistic exchange of information is somewhat dampened by the knowledge that somebody, somewhere, is profiting from whatever you give. Second, with Wikipedia it is very easy for a person to type in a few sentences about a subject on an article about the Toshiba Satellite laptop, but to answer technical problems a person is experiencing seems like a different realm. But is it? “It’s a beautiful thing. People really want to help other people,” said the presenter, who marveled at the community that has already developed on Fixya. “Another difference from Wikipedia is that we have a premium content version of the site.” Their premium site is where they envision making their money. Customers with a problem will assign a dollar amount based upon how badly they need an answer to a question, and the expert-editors of Fixya will share in the payment for the resolved issue. Like Wikipedia, reputation is paramount to Fixya’s experts. Whereas Wikipedia editors are judged by how they are perceived in the Wiki community, the amount of barnstars they receive and by the value of their contributions, Fixya's customers rate its experts based upon the usefulness of their advice. The site is currently working on offering extended warranties with some manufacturers, although it was not clear how that would work on a site that functioned on the work of any expert. Another collaborative effort product presented to us was YouFig, which is software designed to allow a group of people to collaborate on work product. This is not a new idea, although may web-based products have generally fallen flat. The idea is that people who are working on a multi-media project can combine efforts to create a final product. They envision their initial market to be academia, but one could see the product stretching to fields such as law, where large litigation projects with high-level of collaboration on both document creation and media presentation; in business, where software aimed at product development has generally not lived up to its promises; and in the science and engineering fields, where multi-media collaboration is quickly becoming not only the norm, but a necessity.

For the popular consumer market, Superna, whose offices hosted our meeting, demonstrated their cost-saving vision for the Smart Home (SH). Current SH systems require a large, expensive server in order to coordinate all the electronic appliances in today's air-conditioned, lit and entertainment-saturated house. Such coordinating servers can cost upwards of US$5,000, whereas Superna's software can turn a US$1,000 hand-held tablet PC into household remote control.

There were a few start-ups where Vardi's fatherly mentoring seemed more at play than long-term practical business modeling. In the hot market of WiFi products, WeFi is software that will allow groups of users, such as friends, share knowledge about the location of free Internet WiFi access, and also provide codes and keys for certain hot spots, with access provided only to the trusted users within a group. The mock-up that was shown to us had a Google Maps-esque city block that had green points to the known hot spots that are available either for free (such as those owned by good Samaritans who do not secure their WiFi access) or for pay, with access information provided for that location. I saw two long-term problems: first, WiMAX, which is able to provide Internet access to people for miles within its range. There is already discussion all over the Internet as to whether this technology will eventually make WiFi obsolete, negating the need to find "hot spots" for a group of friends. Taiwan is already testing an island-wide WiMAX project. The second problem is if good Samaritans are more easily located, instead of just happened-upon, how many will keep their WiFi access free? It has already become more difficult to find people willing to contribute to free Internet. Even in Tel Aviv, and elsewhere, I have come across several secure wireless users who named their network "Fuck Off" in an in-your-face message to freeloaders. Another child of Vardi's that the Brookings Institution might say was over-praised for self-esteem but lacking real accomplishment is AtlasCT, although reportedly Nokia offered to pay US$8.1 million for the software, which they turned down. It is again a map-based software that allows user-generated photographs to be uploaded to personalized street maps that they can share with friends, students, colleagues or whomever else wants to view a person's slideshow from their vacation to Paris ("Dude, go to the icon over Boulevard Montmartre and you'll see this girl I thought was hot outside the Hard Rock Cafe!") Aside from the idea that many people probably have little interest in looking at the photo journey of someone they know ("You can see how I traced the steps of Jesus in the Galilee"), it is also easy to imagine Google coming out with its own freeware that would instantly trump this program. Although one can see an e-classroom in architecture employing such software to allow students to take a walking tour through Rome, its desirability may be limited.

Whether Vardi is a smart parent for his encouragement, or in fact propping up laggards, is something only time will tell him as he attempts to bring these products of his children to market. The look of awe that came across each company's representative whenever he entered the room provided the answer to the question of Who's your daddy?


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User talk:122.57.83.93

Welcome
Welcome!

122.57.83.93, welcome to Wikinews! Thank you for your contributions I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Here are some other hints and tips:

 * I would recommend that you get a username. You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikinews, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information (not even an e-mail address), and there are many benefits of having a username.  (If you edit without a username, your IP address is used to identify you instead.)

 * When using talk pages (the "collaboration" tab at the top of the page), or the comments pages (tab "opinions"), please sign your name at the end of your messages by typing four tildes (~~). This will automatically produce your username (or IP address) and the date.

If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome!--User:Anonymous101 19:18, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:Rekov

Welcome
Have a welcome template, that isn't older than the hills! --Brian McNeil / talk 18:02, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

 * I've "cheekily" given you the current welcome template because you've made some really positive contributions in the past week or so. Things have changed a lot in the past years. You've a good grasp of grammar, style, and how news should flow. Would love to see you more regularly active here! --Brian McNeil / talk 18:02, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Source?
Please see Talk:Anonymous plans to protest Church of Scientology on February 10, I have a question re material you added to the article. The syntax of it looks fine but I can't find that particular video, so I removed that info pending a source. Cirt 04:17, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Israel Journal: Is Yossi Vardi a good father to his entrepreneurial children?

OR Notes
Presentations at Superna headquarters in Tel Aviv witnessed by myself. David Shankbone 20:12, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Weizmann Institute of Science
The picture of the particle accelerator tower is taken at the Weizmann Institute of Science, Rehovot, Israel, and not at the Technion, Haifa!! Harel 19:06, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Quite so. The Hebrew/English sign captured in the picture says "The Canada Center for Nuclear Physics". This Center is in the Weizmann Institute in Rehovot. DrorK 14:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I took out the photo - I was mixed up in my exhaustion. --David Shankbone 21:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)


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One killed by TGV crash with lorry

December 19, 2007

A French truck driver was killed and 34 rail passengers injured on Tuesday when a (Train à Grande Vitesse) train impacted a lorry in Eastern France near Switzerland, according to officials. The TGV, which was travelling from Paris to Geneva, rammed into the truck which had become stuck on a level crossing, at around 9:30 a.m.  near the eastern town of. The lorry driver died on the scene and the train driver was seriously injured in the crash. Officials have said that the accident involved a lorry that was carrying a cement mixing unit and that it had become stuck on the level crossing for an unknown reason, and was trapped in by the barriers when they went down. However, police officials have said that the driver had managed to leave the cabin of his truck, and that he was most likely moving to leave the level crossing by foot when the train impacted.

Travelling at around 100 kilometres (65 miles) per hour, the TGV was derailed, causing the SNCF (the French National Rail Service) to deviate all trains on the Paris–Geneva service via for the next 48 hours. The train's remaining 160 passengers were safely evacuated.

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Talk:Jump5 plays their last concert, disbanding after nine years

to be published on the 20th per Zanimum. --SVTCobra 20:58, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

OR notes
Zanimum has press material from the publicists which assisted in developing this article. Other information was from Wikipedia's Jump5 entry. The photos are by Jeb Wilson of Nashville Photography Group, who attended the event upon request from Wikinews. --SVTCobra 23:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks for adding these notes. --  Zanimum 16:13, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


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Scottish man to be freed from death row in Ohio, US

December 20, 2007

A resident of Scotland, United Kingdom has been released from death row in Ohio, United States after serving 21 years imprisonment awaiting execution after being convicted of an arson attack in which a two-year-old girl died. Kenny Richey, who has dual US-UK citizenship, was expected to return to Scotland within a week.

Richey was expected to be released today, however, he was rushed to the hospital with chest pains. The hearing to release him has been rescheduled for January 8, 2008, spoiling Richey's plans to be back in Scotland for Christmas. He has suffered at least three heart attacks in the last three years.

The 43-year-old man had moved to Ohio to join his American father at 18. A week before he was due to return to Scotland, in 1986, a fire broke out which killed two-year-old Cynthia Collins. He was convicted of starting the fire, which was alleged to be aimed at a former girlfriend of his, who resided in the flat above.

His original conviction was overturned in August by the Cincinnati court of appeal, which ruled his defence team had mishandled the case. This resulted in his temporary transfer to a low-security prison.

It has now emerged that he has arranged a plea bargain that will ensure his release, in which he will plead no contest to charges of attempted involuntary manslaughter, child endangering and breaking and entering. His sentence for these offenses will be time already served.

"Kenny didn't commit the crime he was charged of, and thank goodness now the American prosecutor recognises it," human rights lawyer Clive Stafford Smith, a representative of Richey, told BBC Radio 4. "On Saturday, he will get to be home with his mother for the first time in 21 years. That's wonderful news. This poor child died in a fire that was an accident, and this man has spent 21 years and 173 days in prison, facing the death penalty, for a crime he didn't commit. If there's any better example of why the death penalty is wrong, I don't know what it is."

Ken Parsigan, solicitor for Richey, told reporters that the agreement was "as close to the state admitting it was wrong as we are going to get".

An employee in the office of Putnam County Prosecutor Gary Lammers said he would be unavailable for comment until after Thursday's hearing, which has now been rescheduled for January 8 by visiting Judge Alan Travis.

Richey was almost executed thirteen years ago; on that occasion, he came within an hour of being killed.


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American animator Jack Zander dies, aged 99

December 20, 2007

, the animator whose career lasted from the "golden age" of theatrical animation into the 1980s, has died at the age of 99 on Monday, December 17.

Born in May of 1908, he helped animate the cartoons with  and, including ' (1940), The Night Before Christmas (1941), ' (1942), and  (1943).

Zander was nominated for an Outstanding Animated Program in 1981 for Gnomes, and in 1984 he won the Motion Picture Screen Cartoonists' Golden Award.


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User talk:74.142.41.85

Hello, your entry for Robert Kutruff is better suited for Wikipedia. It is not a news article. --SVTCobra 01:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

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Comments:Turkey launches airstrikes against Kurdish rebels

Terrorist
please dont call pkk to Kurdish rebels.They are not REBELS they are Terrorist as Taliban.


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Lee Myung-bak wins South Korean presidency

December 20, 2007

Lee Myung-bak has won the presidential election in South Korea. According to the National Election Commission, Lee of the Grand National Party won 48.6% of the vote. Chung Dong-young of the United New Democratic Party came in second with 26.2%. These results are with 98% of the ballots counted.

President of South Korea Roh Moo-hyun was not in the election as the presidency is a single five-year term with no eligibility for re-election. Lee is scheduled to take office on February 25, 2008.

For the first time in South Korea's history, a president-elect is facing an investigation by a prosecutor. Lee, former Hyundai executive, could face charges of fraud stemming from his alleged involvement in a financial scam in 2001. Lee denies the charges, but the investigation is unlikely to conclude before the inauguration.

"I will serve the people in a very humble way. According to the people's wishes, I will save the nation's economy that faces a crisis," Lee Myung-bak said in a televised news-conference.

Chung Dong-young conceded defeat "I accept what the people decided today." He told Reuters, "I hope president-elect Lee Myung-bak will lead the country well."


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Comments:Man dies on ride at Disney World in Florida; possibly had prior conditions

There is no reason to believe, at this moment, that the deceases had any prior conditions. As such, there is no reason to say such in the title of the article. Wrc wolfbrother 03:29, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Rider On Disney Roller Coaster Died Of Natural Causes -Autopsy --  Zanimum 17:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello, this mmay be unnesisary but did you know that you can see Disneys hollywood Studios from expiditon everest? --87.244.70.29 (talk) 22:00, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


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Honestly, it should be mandatory to receive a flu shot. The fact that people still die by the thousands of a disease that more often than not we have a working vaccine for is absolutely ridiculous. Spacehusky 04:41, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I get flu vaccines regularly, anyone here in Belgium who wants one can request it and the cost is 100% reimbursed. (You pay a nominal amount for the doctor's visit). I do so on the basis of my doctor's advice, having had nasty flu a couple of times with one incident developing into bronchitis.
 * However, the flu vaccine is not a magic bullet, it is a "best guess" at what will be most effective and is an attempt to cover a variety of flu bugs expected to be predominant over the coming 6 months. Realistically, if H5N1 mutated into something readily transmissible between humans a new vaccine would be required. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but if I have to choose between the two listed, the U.K's makes more sense. PurplePerson —Preceding comment was added at 00:17, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

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Ah-ha! The U.K. list of priorities doesn't list politicians anywhere. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


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Inappropriate Article?
This news story seems like blatant self advertising. Perhaps it would make sense in the context of a Washington based news journal to help inform locals, but what place does it have on Wikinews which has a national (and often international) audience? I suggest removing the article entirely due to inappropriate scope of content for Wikinews. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.127.90.0 (talk) 15:18, 22 December 2007 (UTC)


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Hello, thanks for you contribution to fix the wording. However, that is the actual title of the source article, so it should not be changed. Cheers, --SVTCobra 15:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

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Comments:Scottish man to be freed from death row in Ohio, US

Kinda reminds me a bit of the tale told by the video for the title track of the Accept album Death Row. For those of you who don't know it, it's here. At least this has a marginally better ending, but 21 years is a lot of time to steal from someone. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:25, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Uh, did he not try to murder his girlfriend by burning down her building, which would have presumably housed other tenants as well? I'm not quite sure where innocence comes into play here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.224.212.100 (talk) 22:22, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

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The case of Ohio v Richey, resulting in an innocent man spending 21 years in prison under sentence of death in the electric chair, is one of the most effective arguments I have ever heard against capital punishment. To threaten a person's life and keep him incarcerated for so long under the intense stress of believing he is to be put to death can only typify the definition of "cruel and unusual" prohibited by the eighth amendment to the US Constitution. More often than not, the death penalty is not justice but revenge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.216.85.7 (talk) 22:19, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


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France holds five suspects in Algiers bombing

December 20, 2007 French police have today confirmed that they are holding five suspects in the. The bombings killed at least 37 people, including 17 United Nations staff members.

The men were arrested with three others, who have since been freed, in a raids on Tuesday in Paris and. They are believed to be part of the support network for (formerly Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat), which has claimed responsibility for the attack.


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Natural death confirmed for man who died on Disney World roller coaster

December 20, 2007 The man who died while riding the Expedition Everest roller coaster at Walt Disney World's Animal Kingdom indeed had prior medical conditions, Orlando, Florida officials say.

The Orange County medical examiner determined in a Tuesday autopsy that 44-year-old Navarre, Florida man Jeffery Reed had an existing heart condition.

The Walt Disney World website for the ride says:WARNING! For safety, you should be in good health and free from high blood pressure, heart, back or neck problems, motion sickness, or other conditions that could be aggravated by this adventure. Expectant mothers should not ride. Similar signs exist at the entrance to the ride.

The man was given CPR after being pulled off the ride unconscious, and was taken in an ambulance to Celebration Hospital, where he was pronounced dead. Reed was believed to have been conscious at least 50 seconds before the ride ended, when a camera took a picture of him. Cameras are sometimes placed on roller coasters so that riders can buy a photo of themselves as they go down a hill.

Orlando Sentinel columnist Mike Thomas commented, that "when millions of people walk through your parks every year, it is a statistical certainty that some of them will die. When that happens on a ride, we often tell you about it under a banner headline. It becomes a worldwide story. But if you did the math, you would find that per capita no more people die in Disney than in any other large gathering place."

No defibrillator nearby
There was no defibrillator available to Disney employees when the man collapsed, and paramedics took five minutes to arrive with such equipment. Disney has 500 defibrillators at its resort, however only two are at the Animal Kingdom park. Neither are stored at rides.

Disney has said it will order 200 more defibrillators, which for the most part will be placed at public restrooms, ensuring they are easily identifiable. Restrooms are also statistically one of the most likely places for seniors to die; these deaths are referred to by paramedics as a "commode code".

Police originally identified the man as "Jeffery Reed", where his name was actually "Jeffery Chalmers Reeb"; the name on police reports was correct, however.

Pre-existing conditions common among riders
Since 1989, 15 people have died while riding on rides at the park; many who have died on park rides have had prior aliments.

A four-year-old who died on the Body Wars ride in 1995 had a cardiac conduction defect, which is a congenital heart condition; the mother insisted the girl had no history of health problems, but relatives told officials that the girl was being treated at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston for undisclosed reasons.

Autopsy of a boy who died on Rock 'n' Roller Coaster in 2006 found he too had a congenital heart problem. In 2006, a 49-year-old German tourist died in a hospital after she fell ill on the Mission: Space ride, from bleeding brain caused by high blood pressure, not provoked by the ride.


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Two whole stories on this? --SVTCobra 17:57, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

 * One saying the guy is dead, one saying that it wasn't Disney fault. Google News has 388 follow-up stories.

 * a.) We need volume. b.) It would be unethical to not let people know that the accused (Disney) was mostly innocent (despite the lack of defibrillators), and c.) the original story was featured as the second lead, so obviously people thought that the first was important enough to highlight, so thus the second at least deserves to exist; interest doesn't dissipate that quick. --  Zanimum 18:11, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I am all for volume ... I was just surprised. Cheers, --SVTCobra 18:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Indeed?
This syntax is highly unnatural sounding. "Disney roller coaster death natural" is fine. Novaterata 18:57, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed, you are right. --SVTCobra 20:25, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Scottish man to be freed from death row in Ohio, US

Have you seen any statements or quotes from the prosecutors office? Right now, this article seems skewed in the defendents favor. --SVTCobra 18:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

 * As yet, no, I haven't. I'll go look for some, though, but to be honest I haven't got a clue where to find them. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:12, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I found nothing. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I found a Toledo paper that called the prosecutor's office which declined comment, so I added that info. BTW did you see about the chest pains? Cheers, --SVTCobra 19:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Well done, I failed miserably. Yes, I've been watching the updates on RC; I also heard the news on the radio. I might prepare something over the coming week to release on the 8th, we'll see. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:46, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


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Leeritian, Lee Ritian, Ritian Lee (李日天) is a Chinese-Canadian visual artist working in photography, sculpture, installation and performance.

Since 1989, LeeRitian exhibited both nationally and internationally. He had group shows and solo shows in Canada (Toronto), China and the United States. His many awards and grants include Canada Arts Council, Ontario Art Council, Toronto Arts Council, "Small Works05" by the Attleboro Museum (U.S.A.), and awarded the winning certificate by Art Museum Of Guangdong (China). His works is a part of private and public collections in many countries.

LeeRitian’s works express the modern society and the cultural phenomena. His idea comes from my native language and he devote to combining the traditional and new Chinese cultural symbolism of contemporary context. It also integrates my Chinese heritage with Western post-modernist culture. More information Ritian’s art, please visit website www.ritianartspace.com

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Former Greek Culture Ministry official attempts suicide

December 20, 2007

The former General Secretary of the Greek Ministry of Culture, Christos Zachopoulos, 54, attempted suicide by jumping from the fourth floor of his apartment in central Athens. He was found lying in the pavement outside his home in Kolonaki at 14:00 EET (UTC+2).

According to evidence, Mr. Zahopoulos had fallen from the fourth floor of his apartment under unclear circumstances. The attempted suicide of Zachopoulos shocked the political world of Greece, mainly after published allegations about misuse of EU funds from the Ministry of Culture.

Television station Mega Channel and the blog Press-gr have published rumours which connect Zachopoulos with tapes that contain sexual scenes of the former General Secretary. So far, however, no specific content has been published and nobody confirmed officially the existence of such material.

Originally a history teacher from Thessaloniki, Zachopoulos had resigned from the post of director three days ago, after a demand from Prime Minister Kostas Karamanlis, a personal friend of his.

Zachopoulos was moved to Evangelismos Hospital where he is hospitalized while his clinical condition is very critical. The tomography he was submitted to showed that the brain injuries are not serious while fractures in arms and legs will require surgery.


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Indonesia's transport minister tells airlines not to buy European aircraft due to EU ban

December 20, 2007

Jusman Syafii Djamal, minister of transport for Indonesia, has recommended that local airlines should not purchase aircraft from European manufacturers, such as Airbus. It is a direct response to the decision of the European Union (EU) to add all 51 of Indonesia's air carriers to the list of air carriers banned in the EU.

The EU made the decision to ban the Indonesian air traffic due to a string of accidents in the country, including two major disasters this year - the losses of Adam Air Flight 574 and Garuda Indonesia Flight 200, which killed 102 and 21 people respectively.

"We do not need to buy aircraft from Europe as long as the flying ban stays unrevoked," Detik.com quoted Djamal as saying, although Xinhua translated the quote as: "As long as the ban is still in place, it is better we do not buy [aircraft] from Europe."

"If aircraft are purchased and registered as Indonesian [in Europe], we are worried the planes won't be able to fly to Indonesia because Indonesian airlines' aircraft are banned from flying over Europe," he continued. Djamal is concerned that instead new European planes would have to be flown into Indonesia prior to registration, with higher costs incurred as a result.

The announcement, which had already been issued to airlines two weeks ago, was made at a joint press conference with Indonesian Vice President Jusuf Kalla in Jakarta. Djamal told reporters that he felt the best option was the lifting of the ban. "The easiest way is to lift the ban, because the ban goes against the principle of open sky policy," he said.

Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has already postponed a diplomatic visit to Europe, citing the ban as his reason. Normally, the president flies on an aircraft operated by state-owned national flag carrier Garuda Indonesia.

A European Commission review was held in Brussels on November 28. Although bans were lifted on Pakistani flag carrier Pakistan International Airlines and Surinam carrier Blue Wing Airlines, the sanctions on Indonesian airlines remained in force.

Multiple local air carriers are considering the possibility of fleet expansions, with some evaluating Airbus jets as possible options. Airbus, in particular, charge an added cost for taking an aircraft to Indonesia for registration. "There is an additional cost that must be paid by Indonesian airlines that buy the (Airbus) plane from Europe, US$200,000 ," said Djamal. "Because of that we recommend not buying planes from Europe. As long as the EU ban is still in place, there will be additional payment."

However, he went on to say that should a manufacturer be willing to pay the cost itself, he did not object to the purchase of the aircraft. He has also confirmed that no Indonesian officers will be sent to Europe to assist with the situation.


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Lakota activists declare secession from US

December 21, 2007

A delegation claiming to represent the Lakota Indian Tribe, an Indian nation within United States borders, have signed a document stating that the tribe withdraws and or cancels all treaties with the U.S. and formally establishes independence from the country. The letter was hand delivered by activists for the tribe to Deputy to the Public Liaison at the State Department, Daniel Turner.

"We are no longer citizens of the United States of America and all those who live in the five-state area that encompasses our country are free to join us. This is according to the laws of the United States, specifically article six of the constitution. It is also within the laws on treaties passed at the Vienna Convention and put into effect by the US and the rest of the international community in 1980. We are legally within our rights to be free and independent," said Russell Means, an activist for Native American rights to reporters at a press conference on Wednesday in Washington, D.C..

"Today is a historic day and our forefathers speak through us. Our Forefathers made the treaties in good faith with the sacred Canupa and with the knowledge of the Great Spirit. They never honored the treaties, that's the reason we are here today," said Garry Rowland who is also known as Wounded Knee. The delegation wrote a formal letter to the Department of State which was hand-delivered by activists of the tribe announcing their secession. So far, the U.S. has not issued a public response regarding their decision. Wikinews attempted to contact the State Department, but in an e-mail Director of the Office of Media Affairs Kirsten Petree stated that "this is not an issue for the State Department" and referred us to the Department of the Interior.

Under the declaration, the tribe, which consists of people from Nebraska, North Dakota, Montana, South Dakota and Wyoming, would create and issue its own driver's licenses and passports. According to a report by Agence France-Presse, all residents who currently live within Lakota borders can continue to reside there without paying taxes, as long as they renounce their U.S. citizenship.

The attempt to gain independence began in 1974 when activists wrote up a draft declaration of independence, which was modeled after the 1776 Declaration of Independence that the U.S. signed in declaring freedom from England.

Many of the treaties the tribe signed with the U.S. are over 150 years old.

"We have 33 treaties with the United States that they have not lived by. They continue to take our land, our water, our children," said activist Phyllis Young, who was one of the individuals who helped to organize a 1977 conference in Geneva on "indigenous rights."

The other members of the activist delegation were Duane Martin Sr., Gary Rowland and Phyllis Young. Duane Martin Sr. is a leader of a group called the Strong Heart Society. Gary Rowland is a leader of a group called the Big Foot Riders. Phyllis Young is the founder of a group called Women of All Red Nations.

Means' group is based in Porcupine, South Dakota on Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. Means' group is not an agency or branch of any Lakota tribe, although he ran unsuccessfully for president of the Oglala Sioux tribe in 2006.


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Thats what they make rules for... If you cannot handle the rides, don't go on them. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:45, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Yup. Sometimes the people are unaware they have problems when they die, as might have been the case with this fellow; but I wonder how many people go there purposely to kill there relatives/commit suicide, on the hopes the coroner is an idiot and misses the evidence of their prior condition. --  Zanimum 01:20, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Safety Issues
My opinion on what happened is probaly what most people think. If you have health conditions you should not go on rides. Maybe ride the less intense rides. Take for instance,the man that just died was at Animal Kingdom at the same time I was. He wouldn't have died if he had not rode Expedition Everest with a heart condition. -Brianna M., Florida —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.235.156.52 (talk) 01:11, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

i hatedisney it so lame —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.154.184.34 (talk) 20:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm shocked about the kid who died on rock'n'roll rollercoaster because i think i was on it in 2006 and there were a bunch of kids that looked about that age. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.189.3.174 (talk) 19:47, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Lakota activists declare secession from US

Incredible
The only thing that would make them totally free is their own country/borders...literally. Actually this is amazing. I can only imagine how the rest of this is going to play out. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:11, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Well keep imagining, because the most they'll get out of this are some additional subsidies. Sorry, to be a downer/realist. What were you hoping for? Another civil war? --SVTCobra 01:36, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with DF on this one, that is amazing, although they're obviously not going to war, What if the tribe doesn't go back to the United States? In any case, it will be interesting to watch the politicians scramble to fix the issue. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:41, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * What do you mean "if the tribe doesn't go back to the United States"? They're inside the US, where are they gonna go? If they isolate themselves, all they will achieve is starvation. As the article notes, it's been attempted before. --SVTCobra 01:49, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Is there any evidence that this group actually has a mandate to speak for the Lakota as a whole? Any evidence of current popular support among Lakota people? Their website only cites a "Indian Treaty Council" in 1974 and says they are doing the work they were asked to do then. --SVTCobra 02:05, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that the tribe will most likely not go to war, but I also believe that the US will kill them all on some trumped up charge before letting them declare independence. If they allowed it then some of the states would start to realize that the Federal government costs them more than it grants, especially given how corrupt it currently is. The constitution was written for 4 million people. How can anyone expect to get the same representation when there are 300million people. The US government wont allow a precedent to be set where any groups is allowed to declare independence for fear that it will prompt a load of other people to do the same. I mean, come on, don't people realize that you don't have critical rights under any government?Rekov 04:08, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Technically, the land they are on, although a "reservation" they already have their own laws and such. they don't pay taxes already, this opens the door for them to make their own country and borders. The government cannot take away the land that they are on. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:08, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Technically, didn't the south have the right to secede from the union? I'm not sure, but I know that ever since the US civil war no state would ever be granted the right to secede. Are they trying to claim just their reservation? If they want anything more than that I could see the US using troops.Rekov 04:12, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes they can claim only their reservation...I think...but I don't know now that all the treaties they signed with the US are null and void...so does that mean they are taking back their land(s)? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:23, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * An unelected splinter group of secessionists can't legally speak for the Lakota people or dissolve treaties. This is essentially a publicity stunt to draw attention to their cause.  --Demiquave 10:37, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Visit Lakotafreedom.com today, learn about what you are discussing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.33.119.12 (talk) 20:45, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Sure they can. You violate a contract it becomes null an void. Technically these treaties were null and void the second the US broke them. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:19, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The fact that they do not officially represent the Lakota people will be used to crush this attempted secession. Even if they do, the fact that they were not voted into a position of authority indicates that the US government will say something like "You don't represent the people, so you can't declare secession." --Rekov 21 December 2007
 * The US Constitution doesn't exactly have an escape clause outlining how you go about secession, but you might argue something with the 9th and 10th Amendments. However, the Alaskan Supreme Court has ruled that secession is illegal, Kohlhaas vs. State, so there is precedent against it. I'm not sure about the treaties. I think that one family in Montana that tried to secede some years ago should have been allowed to (as an example to others -have a stiff tariff placed on anything they try to sell to the US, they'd need a green card in order to work in the US, have to go through customs in order to go to and from home, have to go through naturalization in order to regain their citizenship). There is also something to what Gav of Nukees said, after the 2000 election, "The worst thing to happen to this country was winning the Civil War." (My home state of Missouri voted to stay in the Union. Even though we had a war with Kansas as a warm-up for the main event.) But even I think you need to be an elected representative of your people in order to declare secession or even to anull a treaty. Crazyeddie 16:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Russell Means does not represent The Sioux Nation or even the Lakota.
Your article attributes the actions of an individual to an entire nation in error. Why are you making this stuff up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.233.80.254 (talk) 06:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

The above comment was made by someone who has not done enough research.

Lakotafreedom.com visit it today! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.33.119.12 (talk) 20:40, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

This article does not reflect reality. It is not true. It should be deleted.
Please don't use wikinews to spread disinformation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.233.80.254 (talk) 06:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thats nice. Mind saying why its not true and disinformation? Bawolff ☺☻ 06:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The article is not true because it attributes Russell Means' views to an entire nation, when he was never chosen to represent that nation. See, for example http://rapidcityjournal.com/blogs/editor/?p=339

Lakotafreedom.com visit it today...before you open your mouth and look like the fool above.

Oh it's true alright and all the wishful thinking in the world will not make it otherwise. The United States is going the same way as the Soviet Union and good riddance for there is surely not a more evil and perverse nation on the face of the Earth. Now it remains to be seen whether the United States will play the tyrant and deny the people their fundamental right to self determination. --
 * Never does it say that Means IS a representative of the tribe. It does say he is a tribal activist. Totally different thing. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:18, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * But it does kinda render it a non-event if the Lakota Freedom Delegation doesn't have support among their own people. --SVTCobra 11:47, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I doubt that the delegation would declare independence in D.C., write to the state department and formally announce the cancellation of treaties, without support from the Indian nation let alone thier own people DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:53, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Russell Means has ran and lost for presidency of the Oglala Sioux many times. If he had the kind of widespread mandate necessary to make policy decisions like this, its likely that he would have won at least once.  --Demiquave 19:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

 * People do crazy stuff all the time. Just the other day someone sent an arrest warrant for Prodi to Interpol. (and then they posted it here, of course). --SVTCobra 12:13, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Just look at 'Emperor' Norton. He unilaterally ordered Congress dissolved. Crazyeddie 16:20, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I hope it's true. It's about time they stood up for themselves, but I haven't heard it elsewhere, so I must question its credibility. PurplePerson —Preceding comment was added at 00:13, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

From the website Lakotafreedom.com
Lakotah, through its government, appointed the following representatives to withdraw from all the treaties with the United States of America based on the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties entered into force in 1980 and the U.N. Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples 2007: Teghiya Kte Heretofore known as Gary Rowland Canupa Gluha Mani Heretofore known as Duane Martin Sr. Oyate Wacinyapin Heretofore know as Russell Means Mni yuha Najin Win Heretofore known as Phyllis Young

kinda looks like they DID represent the people.
 * Not in the way most English speakers mean when they say 'represent' in a legal context such as this one; i.e. an elected representative. Russell Means is a well known activist, Phyllis Young is the head of Women of All Red Nations, Duane Martin Sr. is the leader of the Oglala Lakota Strong Heart Society, and Garry Rowland is the Chief of the Big Foot Riders, all of which are groups providing advocacy, support and activism for Native interests.  These folks are certainly prominent in Oglala society, but they aren't elected officials, which makes all the difference in the world, especially when their leader couldn't even become the Tribal President.  One must truly speak for one's people before pulling a stunt like this.  --Demiquave 19:49, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

We are all related.
Visit their website...THEN form an opinion.

Lakotafreedom.com

check it all out.

I am personally suprised at the LACK of publicity this is getting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.33.119.12 (talk) 20:49, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

 * It's just because they're a bunch of crazy activists. Activists do stupid things like this all the time. It's called micronations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.177.247.31 (talk) 14:14, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Do they have a mandate?
Do the persons who declared independence have a democratic mandate to do so? --Ganchelkas 19:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Are we looking at being the next Israel?
As of the posting of this comment, I have not read or seen any media outlets touch on this subject. Although I don't completly agree with the Lakota People, I do see their point. This will make and change the face of the United States. Are we in fact United? If the Lakota People are successfull, is that going to make their land like the Palestinian territories? Are we going to be the next Israel? Should we set the example for how to co-habitat within the United States? Will America even allow this to happen? What will happen with all the other Tribes that are within the United States? Will they try and do the same as the Lakota Tribe? Will the Indians become another race in our already troubleing racial profiling? Will Texas follow suite?

Juan Roachnone 02:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)Brookfield WI
 * In a nutshell, no.
 * HTH. --Demiquave 19:36, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

go lakota
Great job. We owe the NATIVE AMERICANS something...we did in fact take the land from them. lets see America educates illegal mexicans children for FREE, pays money back to blacks because we had slaves...but lets take indians land and given them 97% povery rate, average age of 44. I was born in montana raised in North Dakota. All my family still lives in Montana and North Dakota (on Lakota land) and I say go for it Lakota. If everyone else from African Americans to Mexicans can get money from America and land why not you...whos land america was in the first place.

Lakotah Indian Tribe
This is great news! I hope they can make a peaceful separation without being attacked as my Southern Forefathers were when we tried to break away from the union. God bless each and every one of these brave souls! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katanatac (talk • contribs) 00:45, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, the Civil War was a great war.

about time
I think this is great and it is about time that it has happened. I am only half native american myself but i have always supported my people and always felt that they have gotten the short end of the stick. So it is about time that the United States stops pissing on the Native Americans as well as the rest of the nation with the war in Iraq and the inflated gas prices that only makes the rich man richer and the poor man dead so i think it is the perfect wake up call for the not so United States. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.53.159 (talk) 00:34, 28 December 2007 (UTC) Get off your lazy ass and get to work. No one owes you or me or anyone else anything for what has happened in the past. If you want more than what you have now go and work for it. No one ever drowned in their own sweat! I don't care how down trodden you feel, hard work will overcome any poverty. American Indians were defeted in war, so were the Mexicans, so were the Germans, the Japanese, the French, virtually every nation on earth has lost a war, but only those that toiled with hard laborious work overcame their poverty. If you feel opressed move to some other part of the world and try starting over some where else as my ansestors did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.87.106.131 (talk) 19:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

History in progress
I think that this is one move the Lakota tribe won't be sorry to make. It might also inspire other tribes to do the same, essentially leaving the United States sorry for not living up to their end of the bargain

—75.89.67.103 06:25, 29 December 2007 (UTC) Karl

Paying taxes
It's not fair that they don't have to pay taxes. I'm an American, but I have to pay taxes to the damn government. I never asked to be born in the U.S.

history
I hope history DOES NOT repeat itself....everytime any state or group has tried to withdraw from the UNITED STATES, the US government has murdered people... the civil war WAKO Ruby Ridge etc etc etc. Every Native nation has every right to want to seceede from the Union. I just hope that this time there will NOT be bloodshed. Peace, Kath —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.30.101.3 (talk) 19:19, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Beware of History
Perhaps those few signers have forgotten their history. The last time members of their tribe opposed the United States they were summarily defeated in a war. At the end of war to the victor go the spoils. It does not matter if the war was just or the treaties "fair" the results were what they were. Andrew Jackson once said, "We can have no Sovran Nation within the boundaries of this (the United States) Sovran Nation." It should be then as it should be now.The only way this country will fail is to implode through division. This country is the worlds melting pot where all cultures become assimilated into a new culture. Thomas O'Doole —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.87.106.131 (talk) 21:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

If these folks ain't careful, they may find themselves reclassified as "enemy combatants" and relocated to Guantanamo for good even when/if they are the original "Department of Homeland Security" and battled the first terrorists to cause havoc on US soil...

-75.202.120.191 —Preceding comment was added at 13:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

What about the demographics?
How much of the country (?) of Lakotah is actually inhabited primarily by Lakota Native Americans? 204.52.215.107 16:12, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "How about an update to current..."
How about an update to current status and outcome of this? —68.54.38.111 (talk) 13:07, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "I am outraged and sad about th..."
I am outraged and sad about the lakota story. I did not know there are so many tribes.I saw the story on TV yesterday. I have just finished reading their story on Wikinews. —72.79.210.142 (talk) 18:19, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

I understand the concerns of the Native American people and it is easy to see why they feel inclined to secede from the U.S., but it is apparent that they do not understand the consequences if this was to be taken seriously by the State Department, or the Dept. of Interior. First of all, one does not simply detach oneself without expecting there to be some repercussions. The benefits of all treaties would be forfeited and the real suffering of these people would begin. Secondly, where would they find sufficient resources to survive without the means to purchase those resources? Thirdly, I am afraid that the children would suffer greatly without medicine and without trained medical staff. I believe that the main reason for the secession attempt is simply race based and racism will always thrive where hearts are cold as stone. Today's common American has a deep appreciation for the Native American peoples which I think this group has failed to see. If we cannot get past the racism of the past and move forward to conducting ourselves with an appreciation of each other, we will always have these animosities rearing their ugly heads. If the Gov't truly has done things to cause the mistrust of these people, they owe it to every American to abide themselves by the treaties which were written. They should be as good as the paper they were written on and signed.

Faith in current news
Although several years have gone by.I still feel the same as I did then. I have Indian blood in my veins. I have always known about it, although some ro my family still denies the fact. I am proud and will never deny my heritage. I am 81 years old. 20:37, 21 November 2021 (UTC)


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Talk:Lakota activists declare secession from US

issues
This article truly has some problems. It really isn't explicit enough that this is not a unanimous decision by the lakota tribe leadership. It's not clear and in fact is likely false, for example, that these activists have the authority to withdraw treaties, yet the article says that the treaties have been negated. It needs some qualifying phrases to distance the editorial voice from the opinions of the activists. --Demiquave 10:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I've fixed what I view as several glaring issues, but the title still reflects a biased viewpoint, as it's not strictly true that *the Lakota Indian tribe* has declared anything, just that a group of lakota have done so. Thus I intend to change the title from "Lakota Indian tribe declares secession from US" to "Lakota Indian activists declare secession from US".  --Demiquave 10:21, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * On second thought, the phrase 'Indian' should probably be left out, as it's clearly implied by 'Lakota' and I believe that current usage calls for 'Native American' or 'American Indian'. An Indian is someone from India.  --Demiquave 10:24, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

State Department/OR
I received a letter reply in an e-mail from the State Department stating the following:

Mr. Safoutin,

''For your query, we will refer you to the Department of the Interior. This is not a State Department issue.''

Best,

Kirsten Petree Director, Office of Media Affairs U.S. Department of State 202-647-0001

DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 19:30, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

missing information
What does article six state? I have absolutely no idea and should be included in this article for those who don't know - like myself. The article says, "This is according to the laws of the United States, specifically article six of the constitution." --Nzgabriel | Talk 05:55, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * see Article Six of the United States Constitution. Demiquave 19:24, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Claiming to represent...
I changed it to that because of a discussion in IRC with Amigine. I don't agree with it despite the fact that everything says they represent the tribe. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 20:52, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you cite anything specific that says they represent the Lakota (and that is not their own press release or their own website)? --SVTCobra 19:46, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


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Comments:Israel Journal: Is Yossi Vardi a good father to his entrepreneurial children?

loved this poject of "israel journal"...

You forgot to mention "young"...
For some mysterious reason it looks like the veteran Vardi is looking for YOUNG TALENTS. Not just TALENTS. This emphasis on young, this age limit to creativity, originality and drive is really hard to understand. Vardi is very much appreciated for his own talents and success. His successes are praised and his failures are minimized. People look up to him, constantly pitching ideas to him, when really, as he sais it himself, he is "not interested in ideas, only in talents", and excuse me for adding in my words, leave him alone you grovellers... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lemino (talk • contribs) 13:27, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


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Prime suspect in Northern's Ireland's Omagh bombing found not guilty

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A judge has issued a ruling in the 1998 bombing in the Northern Ireland town of Omagh. Defendant Sean Hoey, who faced 56 charges relating to a car bomb that killed 29 people and injured more than 200, has been found not guilty.

A stunned silence in the public gallery of Belfast Crown Court greeted the verdict in the worst bombing during three decades of so-called troubles in Northern Ireland. Electrician Sean Hoey, 38, was accused of being the principle bomb-maker in a group of conspirators. Only one other person was charged in the case and he is awaiting retrial after having his conviction overturned.

Hoey was said to have been among those who broke away from the Irish Republican Army months after the Good Friday Peace Agreement was negotiated.

In summing up, Judge Reginald Weir said he was critical of forensic evidence presented by the prosecution that relied heavily on a new kind of DNA testing. He also criticized the police for how they handled and stored the evidence, with possible cross-contamination. The judge also singled out two police officers who he said had exaggerated in order to gain a conviction.

For families of the victims, it was a disappointment after waiting nearly a decade for justice. Lawrence Rush lost his wife in the blast. He was in the courthouse when the decision was announced.

"It is devastating," he said. "It is a disaster the way that this investigation was held, and I can say no more about it. All I know is that I am tired, you know, and I am exhausted. It has been a long corridor, 10 years of pain and hope.

"The legal system is here to protect human rights," said Victor Barker, who lost his son in the attack. "It is here to protect Sean Hoey's human rights. I am a lawyer, I believe in the system. Sometimes I find it hard to live with, but I must stand by it because that is the system of justice which ordinary decent people in this country live by. It is only a great shame that my son and the 29 people that died in Omagh had no human right at all."

Families of those killed are now calling for a full public inquiry into the bombing. It is also possible that a civil case may be pursued next year.