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Wikinews talk:Conflict of interest

I have been bold
I have been bold and tagged this as an official policy. It is largely adapted from the corresponding policy on Wikipedia so there may well be some niggles to work out in how it relates to Wikinews.

 * First off, does anyone object to this being official policy? I was prompted to import it when we had people from the Church of Scientology trying to edit articles about them.
 * Second, although it has been gone through and adapted to suit Wikinews are there any specific areas it does not cover, or covers inappropriately?
 * Lastly, in being bold, tagging this as official policy, and semi-protecting it do people think we should institute a vote instead? --Brian McNeil / talk 10:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Support this action by, I think this is a very good idea, especially as applied to groups and organizations, and representatives of those groups or individuals with financial ties to specific organizations. Will go through this and provide some comments as to how it could perhaps be better applied specifically to Wikinews.  It may also be helpful to write some kind of a Guide to how specific parties could contribute in a constructive manner, perhaps by placing a fully-formatted and researched article for review on a talk page, or on a Wikinews Preparation subpage.  Cirt - (talk) 10:30, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Support On february 10 we got protesters covering their protests. We need this policy.--Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 06:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 00:52, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * comment COI is not a policy on Wikipedia, but a guideline. I do think it may be better as a policy *here* because of the nature of what we do, but don't say it's adapted from the Wikipedia "policy" :) Cary Bass (talk) 01:00, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Good point. Cirt (talk) 14:46, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

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Hi, Cirt has asked me to offer feedback on this page. Although I rarely log in at Wikinews, I have a lot of experience dealing with conflict of interest issues on en:Wikipedia. This policy could be better than it is.

The policy needs to mimic a real world understanding of conflict of interest. That hinges upon the appearance of impropriety. Partly, the policy is here to protect the integrity of the project. It's also here to help individuals and the organizations they represent avoid harming themselves. The business world in general is not well versed in how wikis operate and often underestimates the danger of a public relations backlash from aggressive editing. When the real world press picks up on a COI story at en:Wiki, in the space of a few hours those individuals often find themselves with a public relations nightmare several orders of magnitude worse than whatever problem they were trying to fix.

Also, the disclosure issue ought to be clear and firm: do disclose a conflict of interest (even a potential one) and disclose it clearly on one's userpage. The benchmark for when and how much to disclose is if this came out by other means, how would it look to an uninvolved observer? Yes, it may constrain an editor's involvement somewhat to have a disclosed conflict of interest. But that's far better than the consequences of someone else bringing the same information to the public's attention.

If people aren't sure what I'm talking about, I could bring up examples from the United States congressional editing scandal of Jan. 2006, the Microsoft editing scandal of January 2007, or the WikiScanner editing scandals. Durova - (talk) 23:38, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

 * All of which Wikinews has articles on, if anyone wants the "crib notes" version. And I agree that the main issue with COI is to deal with any possible interpretation of impropriety - while I'm personally confident I didn't let my COI influence my interview, I still declared it. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 23:51, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I've added a section down the bottom on the consequences of "outing" a COI editor. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 00:05, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I was pretty sure you did have articles on those incidents, thanks. :) Durova - (talk) 05:52, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, and what was a real pain in the ass is the Congressional one was pre-WikiScanner. Amgine and I manually checked the edits from Congress' IP range. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:48, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I have worked in the appearance of impropriety phrase suggested above. Please, please suggest additional items we have to work into this. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:18, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

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New template, see COI -- Cirt - (talk) 18:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Revision?
The current policy is missing something. Take the following examples from the lead:
 * A Wikinews conflict of interest (COI) is an incompatibility between the aim of Wikinews, which is to produce a neutral, article, and the aims of an individual editor.
 * Where an editor must forego advancing the aims of Wikinews in order to advance outside interests, he stands in a conflict of interest.

To illustrate the gap, here's a review of the Microsoft editing scandal at a sister WMF project from January 2007:
 * Microsoft employees saw a problem with an article.
 * A Microsoft employee approached a blogger and offered to pay him if he corrected the article.
 * Instead of taking the offer, he blogged it.
 * Within hours hundreds of newspapers globally picked up on the story, causing a significant PR disaster for Microsoft.
 * But on the merits, the Microsoft employee's opinion of the article was correct. The blogger would have improved it if he had accepted payment.
 * Therefore, under current Wikinews policy, no conflict of interest policy violation would have occurred.

An onsite conflict of interest policy is useful only to the extent that it mimics real world dynamics. What current policy defines is not conflict of interest, but one possible outcome of a conflict of interest: the scenario where an editor gives precedence to a competing interest whose aims are in active conflict with the best interests of Wikinews. If Wikinews runs a story about Microsoft and an IP edits our story from a Microsoft corporate computer, conflict of interest exists whether or not Microsoft's needs happen to be compatible with the best interests Wikinews. A state of conflict of interest exists even if the Microsoft IP editor deliberately places Wikinews ahead of the interests of his or her employer.

The relevant matter is not whether someone makes bad edits, but the following:
 * Does a state of competing interests exist that could motivate improper onsite action?
 * Would a reasonable person in possession of the full facts view the situation as probably improper?
 * If the general public became aware of the situation, would that be likely to taint the editor, his or her offsite associate(s), and/or Wikinews?

Even though not a single edit got made in the 2007 Microsoft editing scandal and Wikipedia would have been improved it Microsoft's request had been honored, both the press and the public had a very negative reaction because the appearance of impropriety was too strong. This is why I'd like to revise the Wikinews COI policy, so it covers that sort of thing. Durova (talk) 19:17, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with what you wrote and your above points - but how would you adjust this page accordingly? Cirt (talk) 02:24, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Here's a suggested draft for the introduction. Durova (talk) 20:02, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

"A Wikinews conflict of interest (COI) is an incompatibility between the aim of Wikinews, which is to produce a neutral article, and other pressures that act upon individual editors.

COI editing involves contributing to Wikinews under circumstances that generate an appearance of impropriety. COI exists in situations where reasonable questions may arise about whether an editor participates in Wikinews in order to promote one's own interests or those of other individuals, companies, or groups. Where an editor may forego advancing the aims of Wikinews in order to advance outside interests, he stands in a conflict of interest.

COI edits are strongly discouraged. When they cause disruption to the project in the opinion of an uninvolved administrator, they may lead to accounts being blocked and embarrassment for the individuals and groups who were being promoted. Editing in the interests of public relations is particularly frowned upon. This includes, but is not limited to, edits made by public relations departments of corporations; or of other public or private for-profit or not-for-profit organizations; or by professional editors paid to edit a Wikinews article with the sole intent of improving that organization's image.

COI exists in these situations whether or not a COI editor actually promotes a competing interest ahead of the interests of Wikinews. The site's readers want to trust that their news is unbiased. Concealing a conflict of interest is not a solution, because when a conflict of interest comes to light involuntarily it looks worse than a voluntary disclosure."

Durova (talk) 22:47, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

 * That looks like a reasonable rewording to me. (I took the liberty to put your draft in a blockquote to separate it from general talk). --SVTCobra 23:05, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Issues with the nature of Wikinews
As I mentioned in my notes on forwarding a proposal to the WMF to fund a professional rewrite of COI policy, there are points about how Wikinews works that need taken into consideration.

 * Volunteer project - nobody forced to do anything
 * Constant contributor-wide COI (like BBC news reporting on other parts of BBC)
 * Integration of COI with other policies - someone looking at the bigger picture
 * Archiving - cf current vote to delete PR-ish article in archive
 * NPOV - a definition that encompasses things like interviews
 * OR - guidelines for conducting research with primary sources and talking to subjects

This last couple of points suggest we might need Ethics as an additional point with special sections for Accredited Reporters.

Thoughts? Other points?

Basically, how can we progress to a list of items where we have 3-4 sentences per point as input to a COI rewrite? --Brian McNeil / talk 09:29, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * - This is a good change. Going forward, I think we should keep in mind the Examples, but particularly keep in mind the case studies of edits made by congressional staff, FOX News employees and a person who was paid by Microsoft. Cirt (talk) 13:00, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * There are limits on how applicable these examples are - having been Wikipedia editing. As a much smaller community, Wikinews tends to catch COI stuff more readily. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:35, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

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"Goth clothing"?
The article doesn't say anything about the attack being motivated by 'goth clothing'.

 * Good point! I'll edit that in. There are sources for it. Thanks. Shane.Bell - (talk) 12:38, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
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Gay Iranian awaits decision on asylum

March 14, 2008

Britain has stated that it will reconsider the asylum application of a gay Iranian teenager who believes he will be persecuted for his sexuality if he is deported back to Iran. The announcement Friday by the British government came after the European Parliament urged a resolution to the case and said that Iran has a history of torturing and executing homosexuals.

Britain had initially rejected an asylum request by 19-year-old Mehdi Kazemi, and Kazemi fled to the Netherlands, where his case was turned down and he returned to Britain. British Home Secretary Jacqui Smith released a statement on the case: "Following representations made on behalf of Mehdi Kazemi, and in the light of new circumstances since the original decision was made, I have decided that Mr. Kazemi's case should be reconsidered on his return to the UK from the Netherlands."

Eighty members of Britain's upper house of Parliament sent a letter to Jacqui Smith, appealing to the government to "show compassion and allow Mr. Kazemi to have a safe haven in the United Kingdom." Roger Roberts of the House of Lords initiated the petition, and stated: "There is no doubt that he will be persecuted and possibly face state-sanctioned murder if he is forced to return." Simon Hughes, Member of Parliament for North Southwark and Bermondsey, said he would support Kazemi if he returns to the United Kingdom: "I hope Mr Kazemi will now come back to Britain where arrangements are already in place for an urgent meeting with him, his family, specialist lawyers and myself to prepare a new application to the Home Office."

Gay rights advocate and spokesman for the British gay rights group OutRage!, David Allison commented "It's cruel to even suggest sending him back ... The history of gays in Iran has been horrific." Ben Summerskill of the British gay rights organization, Stonewall, said: "We are obviously delighted that the home secretary has listened to the representations that were made in this case ... There are overwhelming reasons why people should not be deported to Iran in the current circumstances, and it is important that Britain is seen as a safe haven."

Borg Palm, Kazemi's solicitor, stated Kazemi was pleased with the news but would have an unstable future in Britain without asylum: "He is very much afraid of being allowed to stay in Britain but without being granted official permission. That would then put him in a no man’s land. He would be very unhappy in the long term."

Kazemi came to Britain in 2005 to study English. His uncle spoke with CNN on condition of anonymity, and said that his nephew was studying in Britain in 2006 when his partner in Iran was arrested and hanged after being charged with sodomy. Kazemi's uncle told CNN: "Under torture and pressure, (the partner) revealed Mehdi's name as his boyfriend." Gay sex is considered a crime in Iran, and is punishable by death. Kazemi told British authorities in his asylum application that Iranian police were after him, and that he could face execution if he returned to Iran. Kazemi stated in his asylum request: "I cannot stop my attraction to men ... If I return to Iran I will be arrested and executed like [my boyfriend]. Since this incident ... I have been so scared."

After Britain's Home Office initially denied Kazemi's asylum application, he fled to Canada and then the Netherlands, where he was detained. Kazemi faces deportation from the Netherlands to Britain, after their highest court rejected his plea on Tuesday. The Netherlands' highest court rejected the case, citing EU law that Kazemi's case was the responsibility of the country where he first requested asylum.

A resolution passed by the European Parliament Thursday asked EU states "to find a common solution to ensure that Mehdi Kazemi is granted asylum or protection on EU soil and not sent back to Iran." The resolution also stated that Iranian authorities "routinely detain, torture and execute persons, notably homosexuals" and that "Mehdi's partner has already been executed, while his father has threatened him with death."

In a September 2007 speech at Columbia University, Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was challenged by University president Lee Bollinger for Iran's treatment of gays. Ahmadinejad stated that "In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country," drawing laughter from the audience. "In Iran we do not have this phenomenon, I don't know who has told you that we have it." According to Iranian human rights activists, over 4,000 gay men and lesbians have been executed since the Iranian Revolution of 1979.

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Article sourced to secondary sources, no OR. Cirt - (talk) 12:29, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


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I wish they had
I wish they had this many stories about hetrosexual relationships. 124.169.212.104 12:48, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It isn't a relationship, his partner was state executed. Do you know of any government that executes heterosexual individuals for being heterosexual? I imagine you'd find that newsworthy, eh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.210.3.190 (talk) 19:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

this is what Iran do too gays
http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1190343457/Men_Accused_of_Being_Gay_Get_Hanged_in_Iran —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.16.129 (talk) 19:44, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

to the previous anonymous commentator
Im sorry but i really dont get the point you are trying to make here. This issue is about the risk Mehdi Kazemi faces if he returns to Iran and his appeal to the British Government for protection, not about their relationship or their sexuality.

The point surely is that to execute another human for their sexual orientation is unacceptable and therefore news worthy. Without creating awareness about the fate of these young gay men and women, nothing will change and this sort of injustice will prevail. Mehdi Kazemi, in this case is at certain risk of the same fate if he returns to Iran.

According to Amnesty International since 1990, the government of Iran has executed 21 minors under the age of 18. At least 25 more are facing ...... Apr 29, 2007.

Javeneh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.200.57 (talk) 13:49, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


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I find Jeremy's closing statement quite insulting - I love Ramen Noodles! Seriously though; great interview. Especially for us aspiring writers out there. Shane.Bell - (talk) 12:59, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


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2008 Tour de Taiwan Stage 6: A jersey battle between American cyclists

March 14, 2008 The 6th Stage of 2008 Tour de Taiwan held its long-distance race through 9 townships including Banciao, Hsinchuang, Wugu, Bali, Tamshui, Jinshan, Sanjhih, Shihmen, and Wanli in Taipei County today. Even though this race is the second longest race in 2008 Tour de Taiwan, the weather challenged 89 cyclists due to an earlier rain in Taipei-Keelung metropolitan area.

The Tour de Taiwan is secondly chosen here (Taipei County) as a stage. Last year, we cooperate with the Chinese Taipei Cycling Association for some race arrangements to chose Bali Township as the termination of the 6th Stage. After the Tour de Taiwan was firmly set without cross-divisions' stages, we [the Taipei County Government] chose the North Coast Line as the check-point of this race, and set up the race lane with some elements especially scenery. Though it rained in Taipei County that we didn't expect before, but I hope every cyclist can safely finish this race.

Even though some cyclists were unable to finish this race due to some crashes, but several participated cyclists still successfully finished this race steadily and safely. Finally, Kyle Gritters from Health Net Pro Cycling Team won the Champion of this stage. Shawn Milne and Peter McDonald still threatened the current sprint and overall leader John Murphy within a difference less than 10 seconds.

Key Results

 * Stage Champion: Kyle Gritters (Health Net Pro Cycling Team)
 * Asian Leader (Blue Jersey): Taiji Nishitani (Aisan Racing Team)
 * Taiwan Leader (White Jersey): Kuan-hua Lai (Giant Asia Racing Team)
 * Sprint Leader (Green Jersey): John Murphy (Health Net Pro Cycling Team)
 * General Leader (Yellow Jersey): John Murphy
 * Group Leader: Giant Asia Racing Team


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I fully participated in this race, but I got worried because some cyclists crashed near the finish line even though the battle of yellow jersey was still evidently taken place between several American cyclists. Brock contact... 14:21, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


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UEFA Champions League and UEFA Cup 2007–08 draw results

March 14, 2008

The draws for the UEFA Champions League Quarter-Finals, Semi-Finals and Final along with the UEFA Cup Quarter-Finals, Semi-Finals and Final.

UEFA Champions League Draw results

UEFA Cup Draw results


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Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 16:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
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Wikinews Shorts: March 14, 2008

Earthquake hits Tonga region
An earthquake with a magnitude of 5.4 has hit Tonga and the surrounding region. The USGS reports that it hit the region just after 0400 local time (1600 UTC). The earthquake was offshore, with the nearest major islands being Tonga.

Sources
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Doctors who treated John Ritter cleared of negligence lawsuit

March 14, 2008 Two doctors who treated actor John Ritter for chest pain in Burbank, California were cleared of a negligence lawsuit on Friday. Ritter was an American television and film actor who died of aortic dissection on 11 September 2003.

Ritter's children and widow (Amy Yasbeck) filed a US$67 million lawsuit claiming negligence by the doctors, both at the time Ritter fell ill and at a medical checkup two years earlier where problems with Ritter's aorta could have been spotted.

A jury hearing the case at Los Angeles County Superior Court voted 9-3 to dismiss the claims, satisfied that the defendants, Dr. Joseph Lee and Dr. Matthew Lotysch, acted properly during their examination and treatment of Ritter.

Ritter's last role was in leading the cast of the television series 8 Simple Rules for Dating My Teenage Daughter whose production was disrupted by his death.


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Leave the forests breath CO2
It`s scientifically proven that plants make photosynthesis which takes the sun light and CO2 from the atmosphere and release O2 to the atmosphere as an end product of this processing.I strongly believe that the bad effect of global warming can be rewound into positive state by the help of keeping the last jungles on earth and new jungles should be cultivated as soon as possible. The only problem is to convince the wealthy people to invest money for this goal. Devastated forest should be given back to the earth, this would be the only unique , effective , fast solution to avoid global warming.

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National Hockey League news: March 14, 2008

March 14, 2008

There were 8 games played in the National Hockey League on March 13, 2008.

Tampa Bay Lightning @ Boston Bruins
Jeff Halpern scored first for the Lightning 7:41 into the first period on a Tampa Bay power play. Andreas Karlsson put the Lightning ahead by 2 7:43 into the second period. At 7:57 in the third period, Chuck Kobasew put the Bruins on the scoreboard. Vincent Lecavalier scored an empty net goal for Tampa Bay with 8 seconds left in the third period, to secure the victory for the Lightning. The Bruins have now lost their third straight.

Calgary Flames @ Atlanta Thrashers
Daymond Langkow scored a short handed goal 13:57 into the first period, putting the Flames ahead by 1. Jarome Iginla scored a few minutes later for Calgary. Iginla also scored 2:45 into the second period. Ilya Kovalchuk put the Thrashers on the scoreboard a couple minutes later, and Colby Armstrong scored 19 seconds after that to bring Atlanta within 1. The Flames went back up by two goals when Wayne Primeau scored 12:39 into the second period. Kovalchuk scored his second of the night on a Thrashers power play, making it a 1 goal game going into the 2nd intermission. In the second half of the third period, Atlanta tied the score when Chris Thorburn scored. Bobby Holik gave the Thrashers the lead 16:13 into the third period, and Kovalchuk would complete the hat trick a few minutes later, scoring on an empty net while his team was on the power play.

Ottawa Senators @ Montreal Canadiens
Jason Spezza scored a pair of power play goals, first 8:21 into the first period, then 27 seconds into the second. Antoine Vermette also scored for the Senators with 1:59 left in the second period. Martin Gerber made 28 saves, improving his record to 27-13-3 and his 2nd shutout of the season. Ottawa has won their third straight.

Dallas Stars @ Detroit Red Wings
Trevor Daley put the Stars on the board 1:08 into the first period. Johan Franzen scored on a Detroit power play to tie the score at one goal apiece. Jere Lehtinen scored 44 seconds into the second period, retaking the lead for Dallas. Brenden Morrow scored a power play goal 13:42 into the second period to put Dallas up by 2. Detroit tied the score on a pair of goals by Pavel Datsyuk; first with 3:43 left in the second, then 36 seconds into the third. Mikael Samuelsson scored the go-ahead goal for Detroit less than a minute later. Valtteri Filppula scored an empty net goal to secure the Red Wings' victory with 5 seconds left. Dallas lost their 4th in 5 games, while Detroit won their fifth straight.

Los Angeles Kings @ Nashville Predators
Jean-Pierre Dumont broke a scoreless tie 8:50 into the second period. Alexander Frolov scored a power play goal to tie the score for Los Angeles with 1:27 left in the second period. Dustin Brown scored the go-ahead goal for Los Angeles just over 5 minutes into the third. Frolov scored his second of the night to put the Kings ahead by 2. Then Matt Ellis scored a short handed empty net goal with just under 2 minutes left. Erik Ersberg made 37 saves for the Kings, earning his second career NHL win.

New Jersey Devils @ Minnesota Wild
Stephane Veilleux scored 3:26 into the first period, then Brent Burns put the Wild ahead by 2 by the end of the first period. In the second period, the Devils tied it up with goals by Vitaly Vishnevski and Brian Gionta. Marian Gaborik retook the lead for Minnesota with 14 seconds left in the second period. In the third period, the Devils would retie the score and force overtime when Dainius Zubrus scored his 10th goal of the season. Jamie Langenbrunner scored the only shootout goal, giving the Devils the extra point in the standings.

Edmonton Oilers @ Colorado Avalanche
Jeff Finger broke a scoreless tie with 1:08 left in the first period, giving the Avalanche the first lead of the game. Jaroslav Hlinka scored 18 seconds into the second period, giving Colorado a 2 goal lead. Tyler Arnason scored a power play goal a few minutes later on a Colorado power play. Sam Gagner put the Oilers on the scoreboard with a power play goal 7:21 into the second. At 14:36, David Jones retook a 3 goal lead for Colorado with a power play goal. Less than 2 minutes later, Wojtek Wolski put Colorado ahead by 4. Peter Budaj made 23 saves for the Avalanche, who have now won 8 of their last 9 games.

Vancouver Canucks @ Phoenix Coyotes
Niko Kapanen broke a scoreless tie just over halfway through the second period on a Coyotes power play. Daniel Winnik put Phoenix ahead by 2 goals 7:32 into the third. Ilja Bryzgalov made 24 saves for Phoenix, earning his third shutout of the season. Roberto Luongo allowed two goals on 45 shots for the Canucks.

Player of the Day
Today's Player of the Day is Ilya Kovalchuk of the Atlanta Thrashers. Kovalchuk scored a hat trick, and also assisted in Bobby Holik's game winning goal in Atlanta's 6-4 comeback victory against the Calgary Flames. His third goal was his 48th goal of his season, and is closest to being the next player to have their 50th goal this season, after Alexander Ovechkin (Washington Capitals) scored his fiftieth goal on March 4.

For information on the selection process of the Player of the Day, see this page.

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Anti-China protesters clash with police in Tibet

March 14, 2008

In the Tibetan capital of Lhasa, Chinese security forces tried to control Buddhist monks and other ethnic Tibetans who were setting fire to vehicles and shops on Friday, in protest of China's rule. At least two protesters are reported to have been shot dead by riot police.

The Chinese government reacted quickly to the protests. An eyewitness report describes hundreds of police forces barricading the city's main square, some opening fire on protesters. Other reports suggest the city is under a sort of lockdown. "The Sera monastery is surrounded by Chinese soldiers or police," an eyewitness told ABC News. "I went yesterday to an area nearby to meet a Tibetan friend, and I saw the monastery surrounded by them."

The protests began rather peacefully on Monday, when a group of monks marched in Lhasa to advocate religious freedom. The march came on the 49th anniversary of Tibet's 1959 rebellion against China. When 50 or 60 of the monks were arrested, hundreds of other monks took to the streets to demand their release. Soon, ordinary Tibetans became involved as well, and the protests grew more violent.

Around 400 protesters gathered at a market near the Jokhang temple, where they were confronted by 1,000 police, according to a witness cited by the Free Tibet Campaign. Cars, buses, and military vehicles were burned as plumes of smoke rose above the city. Protesters also set fire to shops, most of which were owned by ethnic Chinese. "Some of them are looting those shops, taking out the contents and throwing them on huge fires which they've lit in the street," said James Miles, a British journalist.

Near Barkhor, one man said that two soldiers have been killed, and that Tibetans were beating Chinese residents with iron rods. Another eyewitness in Lhasa said that people were being carried away on stretchers. "People have been burning cars and motorbikes and buses," one resident said. "There is smoke everywhere and they have been throwing rocks and breaking windows. We're scared."

Psurbu Tsering of the "Tibetan Association of New York and New Jersey" said his members had received phone calls from Tibet, claiming 70 people had been killed and 1,000 arrested in Tibet. These reports could not be verified.

The unrest has reportedly spread to other provinces, and even other countries. Similar protests were seen in Nepal's capital of Kathmandu, where 1,000 protesters, including monks, gathered at a rally in support of the Tibet demonstrations. Around 12 monks were injured. In the United States, six Tibetans were arrested after holding protests outside the United Nations building in New York City.

An official from the Tibet Autonomous Region accused the Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso, of orchestrating the protests, saying there was enough evidence to prove they were "organized, premeditated and masterminded" by Gyatso and his close supporters. A spokesperson for the Dalai Lama denied these allegations, saying the protests were "completely spontaneous".

In a statement, the Dalai Lama called the protests a "manifestation of the deep-rooted resentment of the Tibetan people". He insisted that both sides end the violence, telling the Chinese government to "stop using force and address the long-simmering resentment of the Tibetan people through dialogue," and he urged his "fellow Tibetans not to resort to violence."

Xinhua, the Chinese state-run news agency, reported in the early hours of Saturday that the situation had "basically returned to normal", although some people had been injured and were taken to the hospital. A Chinese official said the government is "fully capable of maintaining social stability" in Tibet.

The events prompted responses from European leaders, including Dimitrij Rupel, foreign minister of Slovenia and current President of the European Council. "We would like to see some kind of reconciliation between the Chinese authorities and the Tibetan representatives," he said.

French foreign minister Bernard Kouchner alluded to a connection between the protests and the 2008 Summer Olympics, which are set to occur in Beijing this August. "France can draw attention to the link between the Olympic Games and this Tibetan aspiration, which China has to take into account." However, he will not be supporting a boycott of the games. Neither will European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana, who said, "As far as the Olympic Games are concerned I intend to be there."


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Proton rocket fails to launch AMC-14 satellite

March 14, 2008 At 23:18:55 GMT this evening, a Russian Proton-M/Briz-M rocket launched from Area 200/39 at the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, with the AMC-14 satellite for American communications organisation SES Americom. The rocket, operated by International Launch Services (ILS), lifted off on time, and headed towards a Geosynchronous orbit. Around forty minutes after lift-off, ILS reported that an anomaly had occurred during the second burn of the upper stage. AMC-14, which would have been operated in conjunction with Echostar was to provide direct-to-home satellite television services. It was based on the Lockheed Martin A2100 satellite bus.

This is the 11th orbital launch of 2008, and the first to fail. It is also the 334th launch of the Proton rocket, the 41st Proton launch failure, the 2,800th Russian orbital launch, and the 45th Proton launch to be conducted by ILS. It is also the third failure of a Proton during an ILS launch in as many years, following a malfunction during a launch last September, and another in February 2006.

The Proton itself performed nominally, and the Briz-M upper stage successfully completed the first of three burns. During the second burn, however, an undisclosed malfunction occurred, leaving the satellite stranded in a much lower orbit than planned. It is unclear whether the satllite is recoverable. There are currently three options, which are to declare the satellite a write-off and de-orbit it, attempt to raise it to geosynchronous orbit under its own power, or propel it towards the Moon, using lunar gravity to slingshot it back into the correct orbit. If either of the latter options are chosen, it will be at great cost to the satellite's on-orbit life expectancy.


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March 15, 2008

Wikinews spoke to the Global Communications Director at Bebo to have a look at the popular social networking site. Sarah Gavin spoke via email to Wikinews' Gabriel Pollard exclusively.

Bebo - its full name being Blog Early Blog Often - started off life with its name being adopted from a suggestion a journalist made, as well as the memorable nature of the name. Ms Gavin said, "The reality is that the name was chosen for more practical reasons… it was memorable, translated well and most importantly it was available."

Founded in 2005 by husband and wife team, Michael Birch and Xochi Birch, Bebo was an online community for Internet users to talk to one another online, write blog posts and generally post pictures. Now in 2008, "Bebo allows users to find and communicate with friends as well as discovering, experiencing and sharing professional and user-generated content including video, music, books and other forms of entertainment," Ms Gavin said. 2005 was the year when at least another two social networking sites entered the market with Friendster and Ringo.com, which was set up by the same people who created Bebo. Ringo was later sold on to Monster.com.

Not only does Bebo facilitate the aforementioned activities on it's site, but also has access to professional content produced by broadcasters, such as TVNZ in New Zealand, and producers. This is done through its Open Media platform which claims to have over 400 media partners signed up.

Ms Gavin said, "Bebo offers many of the same features found on other sites, but unlike most social networks that limit their scope to communications and utility platforms, Bebo has opened its doors to all media companies, bringing the richness of the media world to its fast-growing community of users."

Bebo even has its own television series it hosts on its website. KateModern, produced by those who made the popular Lonelygirl15 web-series, is a series exclusive to the Internet and was commissioned by Bebo in April, 2007. Bebo boasts that KateModern is the most popular television show on the Internet and saw it attain over 35 million views in the first season alone.

In early December 2007, Bebo announced its Open Application Platform, compatible with Facebook's F8 and Google's OpenSocial platforms. This new platform opens up its API so developers such as NBC Universal and Last.fm can build applications for use on Bebo. 1,300 applications have already been made for Bebo.

With over 40 million members internationally, Bebo has become the only "global Social Media Network" in existence today. Each month its demographic users aged between 16 and 24-years of age inclusive spend a combined total of 2.14 billion minutes a month surfing the highly popular site; or 40 minutes a day per user. The majority of its membership are from English-speaking nations such as United States, Australia and New Zealand where it experiences high popularity.

In the United Kingdom alone, Bebo has more than 11.4 million users, with 1.3 million located just in Ireland; 80% of Irish members are over 18-years-old. Ms Gavin spoke further on the popularity experienced in the world, "It is the number one social networking site in New Zealand, the number two site in Australia, and the number three site in the US and Canada."

Bebo experiences a gender balance with a virtual "50:50" split between female and male users "in each territory".

There is also a local version catered for the Polish community as well as there being plans to migrate into a local French and Spanish site.

Bebo also experiences higher usage than rival social networking site, MySpace, and video sharing website, YouTube, combined. "Bebo users are the most engaged and view an average of 92 pages per usage day," Ms Gavin said.

Ms Gavin said, "Only 10 months after its inception, Bebo was voted Best Social Networking Web Site by more than 300,000 voters in the annual People's Voice awards, in May 2006. Bebo won the People's Choice award in the Social Networking category at the 2006 Webby awards and was named as the number one search term in the Year-End Google Zeitgeist 2006."

Recently it has emerged that youth in Wales have been committing suicide to gain attention, such as having a memorial page on the networking site. In response Bebo have set up their own service called "Be Well" to help make Bebo a "safe and secure environment." Ms Gavin said, "We are actively working with mental health and social care organisations – including Samaritans – to provide support and advice for our members.

"Bebo recognizes the potential dangers of online and takes proactive measures to promote safe use of its network. Bebo works in collaboration with law enforcement agencies from across the globe... [and] features a 'report abuse' button on every page."

The "Be Well" service has recently expanded its offerings to the Australian and New Zealand markets too.

When asked to comment on any possible offers to buy Bebo by such companies as Google, Ms Gavin said that it was against policy to comment on "rumour and speculation". However, after the interview, it was revealed that Time Warner's AOL Internet division is set to buy up Bebo for US$850 million.

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I spoke to Sarah via email. --Nzgabriel | Talk 00:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

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I removed this section, it seemed kinda like linkspam and advertising. Cirt - (talk) 00:39, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I had added the external links so people could get more information on the Be Well programme if they wish to, that's all. --Nzgabriel | Talk 01:19, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Ireland is not part of the UK but in this article it suggests it is: In the United Kingdom alone, Bebo has more than 11.4 million users, with 1.3 million located just in Ireland;

wales suicides
I was fairly certain that the police and families denied any link between the suicides, are common in an area where there is little/nothing to do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.171.94 (talk) 02:32, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

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We should use technology!
This is an outrage. We should use technology to improve the game, not ask for extra assistant referees. It's only going to cause confusion; more is not the answer. It may lead to conflicts between the refs. Look at American Football. They employ the use of technology and everything works just fine. Besides, employing more assistant refs per game is going to cost federations more money. I'm tired of seeing offside-goals being called legit, legit goals being called offside, and hand-of-god stunts.

This happened yesterday, America's second goal has an offside (first guy who attempts to head the ball but fails) and the refs didn't call it. Here, a goal was unfairly anulled when it was legitimate (the second time this happens to this team in this competition this year) and this cost the Peruvians the game. I'm sure this happens to several other clubs and national teams all the time and this must change.

I think we shoul still have the flexibility of changing the dimmensions of the soccer field. It makes it a little more interesting. Besides, what's is wrong with having the homefield advantage. It's just part of the human spirit to overcome obstacles. If the visiting is truly the best they will demonstrate that in any field.

Wrong move
FIFA shouldn't have said no to technology. That's outrageous. What's wrong with Hawk's Eye? It's used in tennis and no one has complained yet. I think Sepp had decided beforehand to say no to technologies. He just put up a show for the public opinion. The additional referees don't help much. Technology was the best solution. If Blatter is worried about football using its human face maybe he should consider retiring.

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Tornado hits downtown Atlanta

March 15, 2008 A tornado, spawned from a large storm, has hit the United States city of Atlanta, Georgia, causing extensive damage throughout the city.

The National Weather Service confirmed Saturday morning that it was a tornado that struck the city. After reviewing the aftermath of the storm, they classified it as an EF2 tornado on the Enhanced Fujita scale. Atlanta mayor Shirley Franklin says she is beginning to apply for federal disaster aid.

There have been no confirmed deaths, but the mayor's spokeswoman says there may be dead victims trapped within the ruins of a collapsed loft complex. The Fulton Cotton Mill Lofts are located in the historic Cabbagetown neighborhood, where at least 20 homes were destroyed. "It looks like a bomb went off, it looks like World War III," said Mahsud Olufani, who has an art studio in the neighbourhood. "It's a disaster area."

At least 27 people suffered injuries, mostly cuts and bruises. One person is reported to be in critical condition. Grady Memorial Hospital, where many of the injured were taken, had suffered some window damage but was still operating. Around 50 people have been taken to a local Red Cross shelter for displaced residents.

The tornado struck during the semifinal game of the SEC Basktetball Tournament between Mississippi State and Alabama. Play was stopped with around 2 minutes to go in overtime when heavy wind could be heard outside with rippling of the roof. Damage was done to the roof as debris fell to the floor. No injuries were reported in the Dome. "I thought it was a tornado or a terrorist attack," said Mississippi State guard Ben Hansbrough.

The storm arrived with little forewarning. A tornado warning was issued for the downtown area a few minutes before the storm hit. "Ironically, the guy behind me got a phone call saying there was a tornado warning," said Lisa Lynn, who was attending the game at the Georgia Dome. "And in two seconds, we heard the noise and things started to shake. It was creepy."

The CNN Center in downtown Atlanta was severely damaged, especially in the atrium, where the ravaged ceiling allowed water to pour in. Police closed several streets near the CNN Center because of the debris, which included power lines, billboards, and even office chairs.

The Omni Hotel, which is attached to the CNN Center, also sustained damage, with many of its windows shattered. Visitors at the hotel were evacuated to the exhibition hall at street level. "It was crazy. There was a lot of windows breaking and stuff falling," said Terrence Evans, a valet at the hotel.

At Centennial Olympic Park, located near CNN and the Omni Hotel, two Olympic torch sculptures had fallen over, and a performance pavilion was destroyed. A high-rise dorm at Georgia State University was damaged by the tornado, as evidenced by a large hole in the building's 14th floor. University students were evacuated on buses.

According to Georgia Power, more than 13,000 of their customers are currently without electricity. Crews are working to fix downed power lines, but they said it would be difficult with all the debris.

Another large storm, currently in Mississippi, is heading towards Atlanta, and is forecast to arrive around 3 p.m. National Weather Service meteorologist Mike Leary said Friday's storm could be "nothing to compare with what's coming in tomorrow".

All downtown events scheduled to occur Saturday have been cancelled. This includes the city's Saint Patrick's Day parade. The remaining SEC tournament games are to be played at Georgia Tech's Alexander Memorial Coliseum, located in the undamaged midtown.

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Followup Anonymous interview extraordinarily newsworthy. Deletion was gross error, implosion of journalistic integrity. (Moshe - (talk) 05:06, 15 March 2008 (UTC))
 * I'm sorry, I just didn't want to argue as am reporting on the protests today. Let me tell you that today I will interview some protesters (and so will many other users). --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 06:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Is it too late to suggest that some of that deleted interview be appended to Church of Scientology denied injunction against Anonymous ? Cirt - (talk) 05:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, the article is over 24 hours old--Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 06:09, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

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2008 Tour de Taiwan Stage 7: Kam-po Wong places first for the second time

March 15, 2008 Since the 2008 Tour de Taiwan entered the Taipei-Keelung metropolitan area for a golden-72-hours' final battle, the Taipei World Trade Center Nangang Exhibition Hall (TWTC Nangang) stage raced today from Jing-mao 2nd Road through Nangang Road and Sanchung Road to the TWTC Nangang. With its new setup in the Tour de Taiwan, the Taiwan External Trade Development Council (TAITRA) and Ministry of Economic Affairs of the Republic of the China respected this stage honorarily.

We [the TAITRA] have cooperated with the Chinese Taipei Cycling Association with a combination of Taipei International Cycle Show (Taipei Cycle) and Tour de Taiwan since 2006 after a success of 2005 Taipei International Elimination Road Race. It's meaningful for this [Taipei Cycle] show and this [Tour de Taiwan] cycling race to enroll the TWTC Nangang into a stage because 761 companies participated in this show with 2842 booths, its scale is larger than past years and it [the show] successfully stood out as the bicycle sourcing center in Asia. In addition, the level of this race will be evidently improved after it was named as the Asian Qualifier of 2008 Summer Olympics. I hope this combination, a first-to-none creation world-wide, can not only rise the bicycle industry but also show the excellence of Taiwan as many world-class cyclists witnessed this effort.

TWTC Nangang is invested with NT$13 billion dollars by Ministry of Economic Affairs, and the TAITRA gained the 10-year operating right for TWTC Nangang. It symbolized the bicycle industry as a must-have industry in Taiwan since the Taipei Cycle was named as the first trade show in the TWTC Nangang with not only innovative products but also completion brands. We [the public] know that the a bicycle has more functions from traditional transporting to sporting, leisure, and environmental after the awareness of global warming. I hope this race can improve the quality of basic sports and its industry after the public take a bicycle as a multi-function tool.

Within 10 laps near the Sanchong Road and Nangang Road, Po-hung Wu, who crashed yesterday after the finish line, crashed again and was forced to quit the race. After some medical aid, he spoke to the Wikinews Reporter Rico Shen: "Even though I crashed frequently in my career...[I was] unable to prevent the crash because you will not know what will happen in [a second]. If possible, just to decrease the possibility of the crash when racing."

But before a brief interview to Po-hung Wu, another crash happened near the 30th lap, not only a Malaysian cyclist was forced to quit this race, but also the referee temporarily suspended and neutralized this race because several cyclists crashed near the finish line. After the officials and referees confirmed the safety of the race lane, this race was firmly reopened. Finally, Kam-po Wong, the 1st Stage Champion, a cyclist form Hong Kong Pro Cycling Team, won this stage champion and helped John Murphy keep his overall leading in this stage.

Results in this stage

 * Stage Champion: Kam-po Wong (Hong Kong Pro Cycling Team)
 * Asian Leader (Blue Jersey): Taiji Nishitani (Aisan Racing Team)
 * Taiwan Leader (White Jersey): Kuan-hua Lai (Giant Asia Racing Team)
 * Sprint Leader (Green Jersey): John Murphy (Health Net Pro Cycling Team)
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Once again, I am now in the News Center of TWTC Nangang, I fully witnessed this race, took pictures, and recorded in some speeches. I will upload photos first but postpone audio arranging and uploading. Brock contact... 06:48, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


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IT'S OVER...
NINE THOUSANDDDDDD!! --TUFKAAP - (talk) 11:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

What Nine Thousand?! 70.50.75.23 14:32, 14 March 2008 (UTC)meh

Anonymous Biased?
The large amount of articles about the group Anonymous in wikinews really make this website look like it is a strong supporter of what they are doing. Which is fine, but wikinews is supposed to have a strong NPOV commitment from what I understand. This article here hardly seems like news and more of an advertisment to recruit more people for an upcoming protest. While looking at some of the past articles coivering protests its more of a celebration of what Anonymous is doing combined with one of the protester's flickr site. I don't think its wrong what Anonymous is doing I think its pretty cool, but I think that its wrong that Wikinews is being used as a rally point. Unless of course Anonymous has donated considerable amounts to wikimedia, then from what I hear its okay.

Overtly Anonymous Biased
I'd also like to add a Wikinews admin making a comment like the one above really seems to confirm the overtly biased nature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.57.96.1 (talk) 14:11, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Then. Make.  Your.  Own.  Article.  Fephisto - (talk) 15:02, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Not biased
I fail to see how this articl is biased in any way. The wikinews reporter's question are appropriate and relevant to the story, and do not express bias. This is an interview with only one side of the conflict, and thus it is acceptable that only one opinion is explored.

If you'd like to balance the debate; do an interview with some scientologists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.50.75.23 (talk) 14:39, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * We've tried! Bjweeks - (talk) 15:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I also emailed scientology to see if they want an interview, but, insurprisingly, no repsonse.--Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 15:52, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Then you don't want to see it
The article itself is questionably noteworthy. Who else picks up articles like this? what outher media outlets is running this story? It would be one thing if the protest had already happend but this is a recruitment article to rally more people for the protest. If you fail to see that that, then you don't want to see that. Take that into consideration with the other Anonymous article that is running on the front page above the one about Jimbo Wales promoting self interest over dedication to truth & neutality really lets you know how wikimedia operates.
 * I can see the concern for this article but what is wrong with the other article on the front page? It was picked up by many news outlets. Bjweeks - (talk) 14:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's literally self-interest (Anonymous article) above truth & neutrality (Jimbo Wales Article). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.57.96.1 (talk) 15:08, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE YOU COMMENT
I emailed scientology and would have included them both but Scientology refused to respond. This does not act as a promotion for the protests as I mentioned that the last protest contained activity which some people consider illegal. Also, it's newsworthiness is clear as its about a prrotest that is about to happen. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 15:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


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Series of explosions at Albanian arms depot leaves at least 155 dead or injured

March 15, 2008

A series of explosions have hit an Albanian arms depot near Tirana, leaving at least 155 people injured. Five are reported to be in comas. Four are known as dead.

Juela Mecani, spokesperson for Albamian PM Sali Berisha, said to Reuters "We do not know the exact number (of casualties) but we fear the worst for the three teams, each of 21 people, working there at the time. Several were U.S. citizens." The three teams referred to were dismantling obsolete munitions stored there, as part of a programme to remove Stalinist era arms and modernize the military in order to qualify for an invitation to join NATO next month.

Injured people have been rushed to hospitals amid ongoing explosions, which Interior Ministry spokesman Avni Neza says have prevented helicopters landing in the area. The wounded are suffering from burns, concussion, broken limbs and shrapnel injuries. Meanwhile, Neza says police and army units are attempting to reach the area in armored cars. Albanian health minister Nard Ndoka said that the 155 known to be hospitalized so far had to make their way to nearby villages as the ongoing explosions had also prevented road ambulances reaching the scene. Explosions have been ongoing at least two hours.

Tirana Airport spokesman Arlinda Causholli said glass windows and doors at the airport, a few kilometers from the site, were shattered by the initial series of explosions. "We evacuated passengers from the affected area and suspended flights for around 30 minutes," he said.

A Reuters cameraman in the area described the scene. "Terrified people are leaving the area on foot along the highway, women and children... Cars with broken windows have been abandoned on the highway." Local media reports Tirana residents rushing to donate blood to help with the emergency.

Explosions were felt in Tirana and in Durres, 20km (12 miles) from the base. In the nearby village of Gerdec, some residents fled to the hills, while others sought shelter in concrete bunkers built by late Stalinist leader Enver Hoxha. The initial blast was heard 150km away in Macedonia and Serbia


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March 15, 2008

There were 5 games played in the National Hockey League on March 14, 2008.

Atlanta Thrashers @ Washington Capitals
Brooks Laich had his third two-goal game in the past nine games as the Washington Capitals beat the Atlanta Thrashers 4-1 at the Verizon Center in Washington. Atlanta scored first, but Washington tied it up three minutes later, and took the lead in the second period. Alexander Ovechkin had a goal and assist, bringing up his points total to 99 (57 goals and 42 assists). Kari Lehtonen let in four goals on 37 shots for the Thrashers while Olaf Kolzing of the Capitals faced only 12 shots, letting in one goal.

Chicago Blackhawks @ Columbus Blue Jackets
The Chicago Blackhawks chased Columbus goaltender Pascal Leclaire from the nets after allowing three goals on six shots barely past the midway mark of the first period. The Blue Jackets made interesting by coming back within one goal, twice, once in the second period and once in the third period. Chicago then went on to score two straight in the third period to win the game 6-3. Patrick Lalime made 29 saves out of a possible 32, including a 17 shot second period where he let in two goals. Fredrik Norrena saved 16 shots out of 19 after replacing Leclaire.

Carolina Hurricanes @ Buffalo Sabres
The Buffalo Sabres romped the Carolina Hurricanes 7-1 in a heated match at the HSBC Arena in Buffalo. The Sabres jumped to a 4-0 lead by the end of the first period, and a 6-0 lead by the end of the second period. Scott Walker had the only goal for the Hurricanes, shorthanded, at 11:30 of the third period. He also collected 21 minutes in penalties, including a fight, three minors, and a misconduct. Derek Roy led the offensive charge for Buffalo, scoring two goals, and assisting on another one. Cam Ward let in four goals on seven shots, and was replaced by John Grahame. Ryan Miller stopped all but one out of 28 shots.

New York Rangers @ Florida Panthers
Sean Avery had two assists for the New York Rangers in a losing cause as his team lost the Florida Panthers in a 3-2 count. The Panthers scored first, and then fell behind 2-1. Jassen Cullimore tied the game up with a goal 11:42 of the second period, and go on to win the game on the strength of Olli Jokinen's powerplay goal at 7:12 of the third period. Many shots were fired both ways; the Rangers' Henrik Lundqvist stopped 27 out of 30 shots in a losing cause, while the Panther's Tomas Vokoun stopped 32 out of 34.

St. Louis Blues @ San Jose Sharks
Eight different Sharks players had points as the San Jose Sharks beat the St. Louis Blues 4-1 at the HP Pavillion at San Jose. Milan Michálek opened the scoring early, at 1:10 of the first period. Jeremy Roenick scored what turned out the eventual game-winning goal at 10:22. Brian Campbell scored San Jose's third goal at 12:10 of the same period, and Sharks' captian Patrick Marleau scored their fourth goal at 13:15 of the first period on a penalty shot. David Backes scored the Blues' only goal at 0:54 of the second period on the power-play, but that would as close as the Blues would get. Hannu Toivonen made 23 saves on 27 shots, while his counterpart Evgeni Navokov 20 saves out of a possible 21.

Player of the Day
Today's Player of the Day is Derek Roy of the Buffalo Sabres. Roy had two goals and an assist in Buffalo's 8-1 win over the Carolina Hurricanes. Roy now has 29 points, which is a personal season record, and currently leads his team in goals scored.

For information on the selection process of the Player of the Day, see this page.

Related news
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Delta II launches GPS IIR-19 satellite

March 15, 2008 A Delta II rocket launched at 06:10 GMT this morning, with the GPS IIR-19 navigation satellite. The spacecraft, which forms part of the US Air Force's NAVSTAR Global Positioning System, has been successfully delivered into a Medium Earth orbit.

The rocket flew in the 7925-9.5 configuration, with 9 GEM-40 solid-rocket boosters, an Extra Extended Long Tank Thor first stage, a Delta-K second stage, a Star 48B third stage, and a 9.5 ft (2.9m) diameter payload fairing. Launch was conducted by United Launch Alliance (ULA).

GPS IIR-19, also known as IIM-6 and SVN-48, will be placed in plane A, slot 4, replacing the GPS IIA-15 satellite. IIA-15 was launched in September 1992, and has been operating for over twice its design life. This was the 135th launch of the Delta II, and the twelfth orbital launch of 2008.

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Talk:Tornado hits downtown Atlanta

Here are some more photos:

--Maveric149 - (talk) 17:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

i was 10 years and 364-365 days old when these tornados happened
i was 2 when the moore tornado happened Sonicthehedgehog9000 (talk) 21:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

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Vandalism to our lead article is take very seriously. Any further instances of vandalism will probably result in a block.--Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 17:44, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

 * One more instance of vandalism from you and I will block you from editing. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:03, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

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Comments:H5N1 Avian Flu virus has mutated, study says

I wonder how long it will take for the media to find this, blow it out of proportion and make us all thing that all of us will die?

Spockezri - (talk) 19:45, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "Practice of child marriage in ..."
Practice of child marriage in india.plz i want an article on it —80.239.243.76 (talk) 06:08, 7 January 2011 (UTC)


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Comments:Anti-China protesters clash with police in Tibet

From a recent traveler through Tibet. Everywhere I went the locals shared stories about punishment and torture by the authorities and kept saying things like "I can't say that. I'll be arrested." I've made contact with some sources in Tibet (though the attempted media block-out). I'm hearing reports of up to 200 Tibetan deaths. 63.231.53.163 21:10, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Can the IOC please cancel the Olympics right now? They are supposed to be more democratic in return for hosting the olympics. Arresting peaceful protesters (which sparked the violent escalation) is unacceptable to a democratic/free society.--220.237.34.175 06:46, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Six Tibetan protesters at UN headquarter in NYC were arrested by the police. I guess the US is not a democratic/free society, or maybe there is legitimate concern when the protesters go too far with or without a permit in the first place. The threshold for "going too far" is arbitrary and you're welcome to debate that, but arresting is a normal, even necessary, procedure in a democratic/free society. --71.174.175.103 15:10, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

If chinese goverment can't be loyal to its law
I have seen so many protester was injured and more than hundrends of them were killed at the place where protest was on full fire. I know its hard to get under control, but they dont have right to make gunfire on those innocent people of Tibet. So to speak chinese are very cruel to Tibetan people.They have tortured and put many protester behind the bar.Why if chinese cant handle the small situation than how can they gonna make secure future? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.94.143.49 (talk) 08:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Help to get in touch with the people who are travelling to LHASA from DHARAMSALA
== Help to get in touch with the people who are travelling to LHASA from DHARAMSALA

I LIVE IN DEHRADOON RAJPUR AREA IF ANYBODY KNOW ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRAVELLING TO LHASA AS A PEACE MARCH PLZ CONTACT AT THIS ADD (SAKYA DOLMA PHODRANG 192 RAJPUR ROAD)MY NAME IS KUNGA YESHI I WOULD LIKE TO WALK WITH THEM FOR A FREEDOM PLEASE I JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW CAN I GET IN TOUCH WITH THOSE PEOPLE PLEASE AS SOON AS YOU READ THIS MESSAGE PLS DO TELL ME.

FREE TIBET!!!!!!!!1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.94.143.49 (talk) 09:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

BULLSHIT!! DON'T OPEN YOUR MOUTH IF YOU DON'T KNOW IT. STUPID !!


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User:HamatoKameko

Introduction
Hi, I'm HamatoKameko, fairly new to Wikinews though not so new to Wikimedia. I've been editing Wikipedia for a couple of years, now, including heavy work on many articles, expanding some from stubs, as well as a lot of minor copy-edits on more articles than I can recall. I've created at least one article on Wikiquote (with paper notes for many more) and have dabbled in a couple of wikis not run by Wikimedia Foundation, including Gaiapedia and FanHistory.

I initially created my account here to make minor copy-edits to existing articles, however it's possible I may cover local events in the future. There's a good chance this will include Anti-Scientology protests by Anonymous, as I am very near one such "church," and a only about an hour from at least one other.

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Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! Now that you've got through the standard welcome message, a little more personal welcome from me! You may remember bumping into me before on Wikipedia... Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:37, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
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 * I thought you might ;-). Well, see you around. Category:Lordi always wants more articles! :-D Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:12, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you for reverting the vandalism to my talk page. -HamatoKameko - (talk) 06:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. By the way, I blocked the vandal as he keeps vandalizing talk pages. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 06:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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Comments:Tornado hits downtown Atlanta

it's not really all over atlanta. it's mainly downtown.

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Comments:Scientology protest group celebrates founder's birthday worldwide

Happy Birthday?
They do know the guy was born March 13... right? Ah, those /b/tards... ~Planoneck~ 00:51, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * They know, I just think they didn't have time to do it on the week, people would be working as such, weekends there would be less working. --TUFKAAP - (talk) 03:11, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Plus doing it on the "Ides of March" seems more fitting. Fephisto - (talk) 18:45, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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User:JamesHarrison

I'm a UK-based web developer and Wikinews reporter, amongst other things.

You can check my contributions here or leave me a message on my talk page.

I'm always on the lookout for a story, or something I can help with, be it original reporting, photography, interviews or synthesis articles. I'm usually idling in the IRC channel and always up for helping out with anything technical or journalistic. I also enjoy tidying articles in terms of written prose and grammar, so do feel free to throw messy articles my way if something needs a cleanup.

My Contributions
Below is a list of articles I have contributed to or performed reporting for.

 * Protesters arrested at anti-Scientology event in Atlanta - Interview, initial authorship
 * Scientology protest group celebrates founder's birthday worldwide - London coverage - Interviews, writeup, photos

Relevant Expertise and Skills
I am able to perform video and audio mastering and editing, video compilation, audio report creation, and other tasks related to the audiovisual aspects of reporting.

I also have over 5 years of experience in web application development and design, and website graphical interface design. In my spare time I help operate the technical side of a youth music project in Oxfordshire, and design and run both sound and lighting for various theatrical shows at local theatres.

Contact Details
You can contact me via email by using the MediaWiki email functionality, or you can leave a comment on my talk page.

Alternatively, you can find me on IRC, server irc.freenode.net, username JamesHarrison.

I maintain a blog focusing on Ruby on Rails web development, internet security, programming, social security and phenomenon, and cryptography.

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Crane levels New York City townhouse, leaving 4 dead

March 16, 2008

A construction crane fell from a New York City condominium on Saturday afternoon, demolishing a four-story townhouse and killing four construction workers.

At least ten people were injured in the accident, three of them critically, mayor Michael Bloomberg said. "This accident is one of the worst the city has had," said the mayor. "Our thoughts go to the families. I hope we will not find other victims." He added that authorities are investigating the cause of the accident.

The crane broke into pieces as it fell from a height of 15 or 20 stories, according to witnesses. It hit three residential buildings in the course of the fall and completely crushed the aforementioned townhouse, which housed a bar on the first floor. "The top of the crane went right through the building, and it sliced it in half," said Maryann Krajacic, who lives next to the townhouse.

The bar was closed when the crane fell, but John LaGreco, who owns the bar, fears one of his employees may be dead within the rubble. "Our bar is done," he said. "If I wasn't watching a Yankees game, I would've come to work early and gotten killed."

Cars were overturned and buried in rubble, and the air was filled with clouds of smoke and dust. Around 150 police officers blocked off the area, and 300 firefighters frantically searched for any additional victims. The search could continue all night, said Fire Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta, and would include search dogs and thermal-imaging, and listening devices.

More than half a dozen buildings in the vicinity were evacuated, and a Red Cross shelter was set up nearby.

Stephen Kaplan, an owner of the Reliance Construction Group, says the accident resulted from a falling piece of steel, which severed one of the ties holding the crane to the building. "All the piece of steel had to do was fall slightly left or right, and nothing would have happened," Kaplan said.

Manhattan Borough president Scott Stringer said local residents had often complained about security violations in the building's construction; they asserted that crews worked illegal hours and that the building was going up too quickly. "Over the last year, this is becoming standard in my borough," Stringer said. "I think we have a real issue here."

On March 4, a caller told officials that the crane lacked a sufficient number of safety ties. It was inspected March 6, and no violation was issued. The crane was also inspected Friday, the day before the accident.


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Protesters arrested at anti-Scientology event in Atlanta

March 16, 2008

While protesting outside the Scientology Church of Georgia in, Georgia, United States, two members of the group were arrested by   while standing opposite the Church of Scientology-owned building.

The two protesters, who earlier participated in the delivery of a 'global speech' collaboratively written and read by members of Anonymous at protests worldwide, are believed to have been charged by Dekalb police for protesting without a permit and causing 'offensive or hazardous conditions'. However, other members of Anonymous who took leading roles in arranging the protest are adamant that the Dekalb police had previously told them they did not need a permit to protest.

The arrests were filmed by other members of Anonymous who subsequently posted the videos onto popular video-sharing website YouTube. The videos show a very quick arrest in which the arresting officers did not read the of the protesters, which—contrary to popular belief—is only required to be read before a police officer interviews someone in custody. This was confirmed by other members of the group who say they didn't hear their rights being read before they were led away. "They were grabbed and taken behind the complex in one swift strike. There was no Miranda rights read when they were initially grabbed" said one member of Anonymous interviewed by Wikinews.

In other videos published on YouTube, the same members of Anonymous were shown thanking police for their work and offering them some of the cake members of Anonymous had brought to the protest, shortly before they were arrested.

Members of Anonymous have composed an open letter to Dekalb's Chief of Police, asking if such a show of police strength was really needed at a non-violent protest organised and attended mainly by college students and young Americans.

Drivers showing their support for the protesters by honking their car horns while driving past were followed by police bikes waiting in the Scientology building's driveway and given tickets for violating noise ordinance laws. However, many members of Anonymous have voiced confusion over these tickets, as the honks of support were only 2-3 seconds in duration at most, and noise ordinance laws state a horn must be sounded for longer than 60 seconds to count as a violation of the law. When, after the arrests were made, the police started to adopt the policy of ticketing drivers who honked, members of Anonymous quickly raised "Do not honk" signs to drivers.

Both of the members of Anonymous have been released, one with a bail of $763.00. There are confirmed to be two charges standing against one. No information has been released from the police department at this point.

Initial reaction from bloggers was generally critical of the arrests. Kalira of Doomfeller blog wrote: "This is UNACCEPTABLE. They did no wrong, and that building they were led into was reportedly the Scientology Org building. If the police—nay, the walking tanks, totally uncalled for with a peaceful protest—had them unmask inside ... suffice it to say if they get harassed, there will be great big steaming piles of hell to pay."

Scientology critic Jeff Jacobsen, who was interviewed by Wikinews on February 19, wrote on his blog: "But then I see that the Atlanta police arrested two Anons, and were even stopping cars that honked in approval of the protest! Is Atlanta not a part of the United States? I don't get it."

Interview
The videos and arrests have sparked outrage amongst members of the public and Anonymous, and Wikinews interviewed members of Anonymous who were at the Atlanta protest on Saturday:

What was your initial reaction to the arrests at the protest?
 * Anonymous 1: Just disbelief. On February 10th, the police were completely cool, and we heard they liked us.

What has been your experience dealing with the Atlanta police?
 * Anonymous 1: Usually the police are very chilled with the protests and such. This is the first time that I can recall them acting like this.
 * Anonymous 2: They really didn't talk to us at all at the last protest. Several people had called in before both protests to confirm that we didn't need a permit and that everything was OK- they knew we were coming, and so on- but at this protest initial requests to get more information from the officers were either ignored or met with hostility.

Was there any statement issued by police on what the two arrested individuals were arrested for?
 * Anonymous 2: Originally I heard that they couldn't answer that, but then people started saying it was for inciting disorder and for protesting without a permit. We had contacted the police department earlier, and were told that we wouldn't need a permit.


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Interview
This was conducted in #georgia on irc.partyvan.org. No changes have been made from the original posted text in the IRC channel to that which has been transcribed except for spelling and grammar changes. Interview was conducted at 04:25 to 04:50 UTC or therabouts.--JamesHarrison - (talk) 04:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Flickr photos licensed under CC
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timdorr/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zlatko/

I will check these out, if these really are licensed already for "free-use" we could put them on Wikimedia Commons and use them in the article, perhaps as a gallery. Cirt - (talk) 05:32, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Video
Longer video of incident:

http://talkunafraid.co.uk/assets/2008/3/16/anon_atlanta_arrests.wmv

Cirt - (talk) 06:09, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Other "Anonymous" members arrested, lawsuits pending against police in multiple states in U.S.
Apparently at least one member of Anonymous was arrested in California, and there are also reports that members of Anonymous are planning lawsuits against Police Departments in Orlando, Florida and DeKalb County, Georgia, due to alleged misconduct by the police at the March 15, 2008 protests. Also heard reports that members of Anonymous are in contact with the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) about this. More information and sources to come - it is also likely that this will get coverage soon in secondary sources. Cirt - (talk) 09:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Secondary source coverage

 * Ah, nevermind, this wasn't related to the above issue. Cirt - (talk) 10:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, nevermind, this wasn't related to the above issue. Cirt - (talk) 10:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Miranda Rights
Unlike this article implies reading a suspect their Miranda Rights is not required. If the police do not intend to perform a custodial interrogation no reading of rights is required. If the police perform a custodial interrogation without reading the person their Miranda Rights the statements made can be found inadmissible, but the arrest is valid regardless. Miranda Rights explains it a bit more. The fact that it was not read does sort of imply that the goal was to get them out of there rather then learn something, but terms such as “follow procedure” and “unconventional manner” are NPOV. I am not sure what we should do about it though as it was part of the interview. NPOV does not generally apply to the answers but probably should to the questions. --Cspurrier - (talk) 17:11, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The videos show a very quick arrest in which the arresting officers failed to read the Miranda rights of the protesters.  - How is the article inaccurate though? It is simply stating that it appears no Miranda Rights were read - not giving an interpretation of what that could imply for a potential lawsuit against the police or inadmissibility of statements made.  Cirt - (talk) 17:17, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The word "failed" implies that the arresting office was somehow expected to read Miranda on the scene - something that rarely happens outside TV shows. --+Deprifry+ 17:24, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * “Failed” implies that something that should be done was not done. The police had no obligation to do read them their rights, so wording such as a simple “the officer did not read them their Miranda Rights” might be better. That is a fairly minor issue though, the interview one is the one I am really concerned about. There was nothing inherently odd about the arrests. Suspects are not always read their rights when arrested, officers will often delay for safety or other reasons . --Cspurrier - (talk) 17:29, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Changed wording to "did not..." per above. Not sure how we could change interview questions that were already asked, however...  Cirt - (talk) 17:33, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It presents an interesting question. :) Maybe drop the question or include an ed note that clarifies. --Cspurrier - (talk) 17:37, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I shortened the last part of the last question - does that look okay? Cirt - (talk) 17:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It fixes most of the problem, however I am a bit uncomfortable with changing questions since it is very easy to make it out to be a very diffrent sort of question when we start making changes like that. probbaly an issue for our code of ethics if we ever get around to finishing it :)--Cspurrier - (talk) 00:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The sentence: "Did the arresting officers follow procedure - reading the individuals their rights, and so on - during the arrest ?" is very leading and it's embarrassing to have it in the article. My question is: why do we need to post interviews verbatim? Just use the quotes from the interview in the body of the article. - Borofkin - (talk) 06:33, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The sentence was not intended to be leading; there had been an expectation amongst various people I spoke to that their rights should have been read, and so I asked the above question to confirm if the rights were read or not. In hindsight it's terribly phrased, and I apologise for not spotting that before I put the question to members of the group. Perhaps we should remove that or, as you say, move the content from the interview into the body of the article? --JamesHarrison - (talk) 07:45, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I have removed the section of interview, but as it has been confirmed by various members of Anonymous who were at the protest, I have left the response from one of the members of Anonymous in the body of the article at the relevant point. I do note the message on the opinion page claiming to be from 'arrested anon'; does anyone feel like seeing if the arrested members of Anonymous would be up for giving an interview on what happened to them and what they've been charged with, etc? --JamesHarrison - (talk) 15:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Quotes
Quotes in that kind of format break up the article. Better to just have them both in a paragraph at the bottom, this person said this, this person said that, etc. Cirt - (talk) 17:23, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Lead seems biased.
The headline lead on the front page can bias an uninformed reader that the arrests were due to some sort of violence or incitinement of a riot, expecially with the mention of "Arrested by Riot Police". More clarification needs to be made on the front page about the peaceful protests. 198.254.16.200 23:53, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that the lead reads fine and is factual and accurate, and then more detail is given in the article itself. Cirt - (talk) 02:37, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

DeKalb Police arrest five for weekend protest in Dunwoody
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/dekalb/stories/2008/03/17/scientology_0318.html

I think that it is pretty neat that The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ended up covering this after Wikinews did. Cirt - (talk) 02:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23389091-5014239,00.html

The incident was also mentioned here. Cirt - (talk) 02:42, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


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User talk:Ozzyschoonover

ozzyschoonover

 * Name: Ozzy Schoonover
 * Location: New Castle, Colorado
 * Areas of interest: Community and local news, including school and local sports updates
 * Reason: I would like to receive credentials for three reasons. One, if I ever try to get into a good position to take a picture (for example: sidelines of a school football game) I am asked to go back into the stands because I have no right to be there. Number two, Every story I write I include pictures in because people pay more attention if there is pictures involved.The last and more important reason is to show people that don't come to the games and community events what they are missing out on so they might come and be a part of the community.
 * Accomplishments: None yet, still waiting to get some good pictures.
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Welcome
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Lewis Hamilton wins 2008 Australian Grand Prix

March 16, 2008 Vodafone McLaren Mercedes driver Lewis Hamilton starting from pole wins the FIA Formula-1 2008 ING Australian Grand Prix on the Albert Park Circuit in Melbourne.

Nick Heidfeld took second for BMW Sauber. Nico Rosberg scoring his first Formula One podium in third and a long-awaited for Williams team.

A thrilling race ended with only seven drivers met the chequered flag. It all started when Giancarlo Fisichella, a Force India experienced driver, was out upon the start. His younger teammate Adrian Sutil pitted a couple of laps later and left his car.

Fernando Alonso, who is back in Renault, drove stably although his car could not compete fully with McLaren's. Heikki Kovalainen overtook him on the last lap, but the Spaniard easily made a detour around McLaren and finished 4th.

Rubens Barrichello made a great deal for Honda with a 6th result. The last year decline appear to be nothing to worry about now for the team. Still Barrichello was disqualified a time after the race for leaving the pit-lane under red lights.

Kazuki Nakajima scored two additional points for Williams (three after disqualification of Barrichello).

The last point was grabbed by Sébastien Bourdais (two after disqualification of Barrichello) whose Toro Rosso-Ferrari engine burnt near the end of the race.

Neither Kimi Räikkönen, last year's champion and previous Australian race winner, nor his teammate Felipe Massa finished for Ferrari. Still, Kimi managed to get one point after the disqualification of Barrichello.