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Football: Fulham FC sacks coach Chris Coleman

April 10, 2007

coach was sacked Tuesday, the day after a disappointing 3-1 loss to Manchester City.

Fulham's form has been poor as of late, with the team not winning in their past seven games. The weekend was especially harsh for the Cottagers, as they leaked seven goals, only scoring two themselves in games against Everton and Manchester City. The drop in form has put Fulham dangerously near relegation, and with the bottom teams currently stepping up their form, Fulham management decided it was time for a change.

Assistant coach has also been released from the club, and Fulham has made an agreement with the  for Northern Ireland boss  to take control of the team in a caretaker position for the remainder of the season.

Coleman has been with Fulham for ten years, four as the manager. He coached the team for 176 games, winning 61, drawing 44, and loosing 71.

Sanchez's first match in charge will come against on the 14th of April. Other games remaining in the season for Fulham include matches against Arsenal and Liverpool.


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Fire burns home of late singer Johnny Cash

April 11, 2007

A fast-moving fire engulfed the home of late singer Johnny Cash on Tuesday. The lake-side home, located in Hendersonville, Tennessee, was the home of the late singer and his wife, June Carter, from the late 1960s until their deaths in 2003.

The home was purchased by former Bee Gees singer Barry Gibb in 2006, and was undergoing renovations at the time. The cause of the fire is unknown at this time, but it is believed that a flammable wood preservative that construction workers had applied contributed to the speed in which the flames spread. Firefighters responded within 5 minutes of the fire breaking out. No workers were killed in the fire, but one firefighter suffered minor injuries.

"Maybe it's the good Lord's way to make sure that it was only Johnny's house," said Richard Sterban of The Oak Ridge Boys, who lived down the road from Cash. Neighbor Marty Stewart said "So many prominent things and prominent people in American history took place in that house—everyone from Billy Graham to Bob Dylan went into that house." The home was where Cash wrote many of his hit songs, and appeared in the Cash music video for "Hurt".


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MLB: Alex Rodriguez hits sixth HR in seven games

April 11, 2007

Alex Rodriguez's home run streak was extended Tuesday in the Yankee's win over the Twins in Minneapolis. A-Rod hit a two-run shot off of Twins starter Boof Bonser in the first inning, making it the fourth game in a row that he has cleared the fence. Bonser gave up six hits and seven runs in the four and one third innings he pitched, including a Johnny Damon three-run homer over the right field wall in the fifth inning. before being relieved by Jesse Crain. Dennys Reyes pitched the final inning, giving up three runs to bring the Yankee's lead to nine runs.

Andy Pettitte threw six shutout innings, allowing only four hits. Minnesota's only run came from a Jason Kubel sacrifice fly in the seventh inning, scoring Justin Morneau from third base. The Twins had many opportunities to score early, but ended up leaving their runners in scoring position without any hits to bring them home.

The Twins and Yankees will wrap up the series tomorrow, each hoping for a win to stay above .500. Mike Mussina will be starting for the Yanks, and Ramon Ortiz will be starting for the Twins.

Box score
W: Pettitte (1-0) L: Bonser (0-1)


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 * 38) Torrent tracker Demonoid.com shut down by Canadian Recording Industry Association (September 26, 2007)
 * 39) NBA: Minnesota ready to trade Kevin Garnett to Boston (July 30, 2007)
 * 40) Television's 'Mr. Wizard' Don Herbert dies at 89 (June 13, 2007)
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User talk:Stickeylabel

Welcome
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Hey Stickeylabel!

I'm just putting together a collection of pics of the contributing video wikinews team to be posted on the blog. If you want your pic to be added to the collection, email it to; video_wikinews@hotmail.com

--Symode09 15:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:WikinewsVE Logo.jpg
Would you be willing to give the copyright of Image:WikinewsVE Logo.jpg to the wikimedia foundation to make it a (semi) official logo? Bawolff ☺☻ 22:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes I would, can you please give me the template to add to remove copyright? Thanks. Stickeylabel 23:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * There are actually two images that I need to remove copyright for, they are: Image:WikinewsVE Logo.svg, and Image:WikinewsVE Logo.jpg. I have now added Template:CopyrightByWikimedia to those images. Stickeylabel 00:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

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 * Looks cool. Nice job on the image. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks Bawolff, I designed it using Macromedia Fireworks. Also I have updated the logo to become more consistant with other projects (i.e. Wikinews: Print Edition). Stickeylabel 03:51, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

New image
I've changed it to a local upload. So if you want to modify the image, please tell me first (I need to change the protection), then use this form keeping the name the same. This way it will be automatically updated in the skin. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:SupaSteve

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Wikinews:AutoWikiBrowser/Request

Minorax

 * Username: Minorax
 * Type of Access: Regular Access
 * Reason you want access: Replace obsolete tags in templates listed at Category:Country infoboxes. --Minorax (talk) 10:50, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

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Can the action be performed using replace.py using PWB? •–• 11:14, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I have no knowledge on how to use PWB. Alternatively, you can replace them instead. --Minorax (talk) 11:41, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Do we have a number for how many templates will be changed? •–• 11:47, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, my bad. Less than 20, so I'll just do this manually. --Minorax (talk) 12:51, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * To the best of my knowledge, this is done. •–• 13:38, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

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User talk:Cnarong

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2007 Cricket World Cup: Bangladesh vs England

April 11, 2007

England beat Bangladesh by 4 wickets (with 31 balls remaining) in the Super 8 phase of the World Cup at the Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, Barbados.

Toss: England won, and elected to field first.

Fall of wickets: 1-9 (Tamim Iqbal, 1.3 ov), 2-23 (Habibul Bashar, 5.5 ov), 3-26 (Shahriar Nafees, 7.4 ov), 4-40 (Mushfiqur Rahim, 10.4 ov), 5-47 (Mohammad Ashraful, 13.1 ov), 6-65 (Aftab Ahmed, 15.2 ov), 7-112 (Mashrafe Mortaza, 29.0 ov), 8-113 (Mohammad Rafique, 30.4 ov), 9-137 (Abdur Razzak, 36.4 ov), 10-143 (Syed Rasel, 37.2 ov)

Fall of wickets: 1-7 (Bell, 3.3 ov), 2-48 (Strauss, 13.3 ov), 3-70 (Vaughan, 20.5 ov), 4-79 (Pietersen, 23.0 ov), 5-110 (Flintoff, 31.2 ov), 6-110 (Bopara, 32.0 ov)

Bangladesh: Shahriar Nafees, Tamim Iqbal, Aftab Ahmed, Saqibul Hasan, Habibul Bashar (capt), Mohammad Ashraful, Mushfiqur Rahim (wkt), Mohammad Rafique, Mashrafe Mortaza, Abdur Razzak, Syed Rasel England: I R Bell, M P Vaughan (capt), A J Strauss, K P Pietersen, A Flintoff, P D Collingwood, R S Bopara, P A Nixon (wkt), S I Mahmood, J M Anderson, M S Panesar

Player of the match: S I Mahmood (England)

Umpires: S A Bucknor (West Indies) and S J A Taufel (Australia) TV umpire: R E Koertzen (South Africa) Match referee: J J Crowe (New Zealand) Reserve umpire: B E Bowden (New Zealand)


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Wikinews:Video 2.0/The Wow Starts Now

Reports

 * Exclusive video interview with New Zealand Opposition leader, John Key
 * Interview with Reggie Bibbs on his life with neurofibromatosis

 * Wendy's chili finger case:
 * Ayala is arrested, Part I. (Windows Media 13MB/1444kb/s)
 * Ayala is arrested, Part II. (Windows Media 11MB/1444kb/s)

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Wikinews:Briefs/April 11, 2007

Charges dropped in Duke lacrosse rape case
North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper dropped all charges against three Duke University lacrosse players. He said the athletes were innocent victims of a “tragic rush to accuse” by an overreaching district attorney, namely Mike Nifong. The year-long case saw Reade Seligmann, David Evans and Collin Finnerty indicted for rape, kidnapping and sexual assault charges tied to an alleged attack at a lacrosse team party on March 13, 2006.

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Sadrist Movement threatens to leave Iraqi government
Controversial cleric Muqtada al-Sadr criticized Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's lack of support for a timetable for a United States withdrawal from Iraq. Although it is not the first time the Sadrist Movement has threatened to leave the government, a statement released by the bloc said: "The Sadrist movement is studying the option of withdrawing from the Iraqi government - a government that has not fulfilled its promises to the people ... We are serious about withdrawing."

Al-Maliki's coalition relied on the Sadrist Movement to give it the mandate needed to form a government and the withdrawal could threaten to topple the government. The Sadrist Movement holds six ministerial positions and represents about a quarter of the MPs in the coalition.

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Terrorist attacks in Algiers, Algeria kill 23 people and wound 162

April 11, 2007 This morning, Algiers, the capital of Algeria, was targeted by two deadly terrorist bombings. The first target was the Government Palace, the main offices of the government, located in downtown Algiers, killing twelve people and wounding 118, according to civil defense. Several cars were burned out, while the Government Palace sustained some heavy damage, as well as the rest of the neighborhood. The other target was the police station of Bab Ezzouar, east of Algiers, causing the death of elven people and wounding 44 others. Civil defense authorities and witnesses say that these bombings were carried out by suicide bombers.

In an Internet statement, responsibility for the attacks was claimed by, known formerly as the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat, renamed in January 2007 to indicate affiliation with al-Qaeda. The website with the claim showed photos of the purported bombers, identified as Muadh bin Jabal, al-Zubair Abu Sajda, and Abu Dajjana.

This attack follows a series of smaller-scale bombings that took place in December 2006 and March 2007.


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Former "crossover" Canadian MP to leave politics

April 11, 2007

Canadian MP Belinda Stronach has officially announced she will not run for re-election in her riding of Newmarket—Aurora in the next federal election. She will re-join her father Frank Stronach's company Magna International Inc., a large auto parts company, as the executive vice-chairwoman.

"My father is looking to the future, the company is facing important strategic decisions, and the Canadian and global auto sector and economy are in a period of great challenge," Stronach announced. "So I am stepping aside from elected politics for the time being and will now take part in public life in a different way...I will continue to represent the interests of the constituents I serve until such time as a federal election is called," she said. "I also plan to continue to play an active role in the community."

During Stronach's career a series of events have made national headlines.

In 2004, she ran against now Prime Minister Stephen Harper for leadership of then the new formed Conservative Party of Canada and finished second on the first ballot. She was later elected as Conservative MP for Newmarket—Aurora. Stronach had many differences to Stephen Harper and his Conservatives supporting abortion and same-sex marriages. She also claimed the party was going too far-right. In 2005, two days before a non-confidence vote to bring down the Liberal government, she crossed the floor to the Liberal Party of Canada and retained her seat. Upon her crossing she immediately became Minister of Human Resources and Social Development and Minister responsible for Democratic Renewal. It also ended her personal relationship with fellow Conservative MP Peter MacKay. If Stronach had not joined the Liberals an election would have been called. On April 6, 2006, Stronach held a news conference announcing that she would not seek the leadership of the Liberals, which was later won by Stephane Dion.

In September, she was caught cheating with former NHL player Tie Domi. In October 2006, Peter MacKay referred to Stranach as a "dog". Stronach, a feminist, demanded an immediate apology and said that it offended all Canadian women.

CTV bureau chief Robert Fife speculated the decision by Stronach, not to seek re-election, may have had something to do with her dissatisfaction over a diminished role in the new Dion caucus. "She did not have a high-profile critic's role and she had not been prominent in asking questions in question period after Mr. Dion took over," suggested Fife.

Stronach has been serving as Critic for Competitiveness and New Economy. She previously served as Critic for the Minister of Transport under interim leader Bill Graham.

The public is also questioning Stronach's move to keep her seat until the next federal election, they happen every five years or less. If she had decided to leave her seat completely, an immediate by-election would be called.


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User talk:ANNAfoxlover~enwikinews

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Finally she came to her senses and quit. She's not a politican and never was. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  21:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


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Wikinews talk:Briefs/April 11, 2007

I removed this un-sourced story from the shorts:

''Iranian President Announces Nuclear Status

''ABC News Online reported on April 10, 2007 that the Iranian President made several recent announcements on the progress of an industrial nuclear program in Iran. Mahmoud Ahmedimajad stated very clearly that the nuclear program would proceed despite the efforts of other countries to inhibit Iran's progress.

''The Iranian President's statements were made even while Iran appears to be taking a non-cooperative stance towards UN sanctions on Iran's nuclear program. It is not clear at this point if Iran's nuclear facilities could be used to enrich weapons-grade uranium. Rising tensions in the Persian Gulf are not easily ignored, given the recent deployment of three US aircraft carriers to the area.

''According to the Navy's online news bulletins, the USS Nimitz will arrive in the Persian Gulf in a few days. USS Eisenhower and USS Stennis are already in the Persian Gulf. USS Harry Truman recently hosted Australian dignitaries, in order to demonstrate to US allies how carrier and aircraft operations are coordinated. The USS Ronald Reagan completed maritime security training operations in the South China Sea during March 2007. Each of these carrier strike forces have crews exceeding 2,000, in addition to airwing personnel of at least 1,800, according to Navy News updates.''

I searched ABC News but could not find it. --SVTCobra 23:13, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Can Iran announcement article be made OK
The article is written by Junebaby, and there were many links available as sources, but I don't know how to conform to your syntax yet. Sorry I did not sign it. Can I or someone else improve and/or edit it to get it up to standards? I am trying to bring up some valid points that I have seen in many news sources. Can the aritcle be put back into news shorts if the syntax is brought up to speed (linked sources, etc...)

Junebaby 14:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Either copy the layout someone else has used, the template is, or just put links like http://www.example.com.  Someone will check them and fix them, and then you can see how to do it. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

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Duke Rape 2?
I wonder if this will become the new "Duke Rape" case. --TUFKAAP 23:45, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


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Two Canadian soldiers killed, three injured in Afghanistan

April 11, 2007

Military officials have confirmed that two Canadian soldiers were killed in two separate road-side bombings targeting the same convoy within hours of each other in southern Afghanistan Wednesday night. The bombings occurred about 38 kilometres west of Kandahar said Colonel Mike Cessford, deputy commander of Task Force Afghanistan in a late-night briefing.

Another three were injured but according to reports they are in stable condition. A Canadian Forces tanker truck was damaged. All the soldiers are from CFB Petawawa in Petawawa, Ontario. A bomb also exploded at around noon but no one sustained injuries.

The two road-side bombings took place in the same general area, about a kilometre apart. In the first incident a soldier was injured, while the second road-side bomb, approximately two hours later, killed the two soldiers. The names of the dead soldiers are being withheld until the families are notified. Colonel Cessford provided the details to reporters in Kandahar Thursday morning. "There was a significant separation between the two incidents," said Cessford. "These were two separate vehicles from two separate areas that were in roughly the same area."

Six Canadian soldiers that were killed in southern Afghanistan last Sunday were returned to CFB Trenton in Trenton, Ontario today.

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I removed this: The soldiers will be remembered at the 90th anniversary of the battle of Vimy Ridge. It is not in any of the sources. --SVTCobra 23:57, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Two Canadian soldiers killed, three injured in Afghanistan

CBC says: The second bomb, which exploded next to a Canadian military vehicle, took the greatest toll — killing the two soldiers and injuring two.

The soldiers hit in the second bombing were attempting to help their colleagues who were struck by the first bomb, the Canadian Defence Department said in a news release. The first bombing, which also occurred next to a Canadian military vehicle, injured one soldier.

This article says that two Canadian soldiers were killed in two seperate bombings. I'm confused... Are we wrong or is the CBC wrong? — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  00:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * yes, there was a discongruity there, I think the attacks targeted the same convoy a little further down their path. --SVTCobra 00:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Should we add it to the article? — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  00:55, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I sorta did in the opening paragraph. Although, I didn't specify that both of those killed were in the second bomb. --SVTCobra 01:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


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NSW to Queensland water pipeline would be "cost-effective": Report

April 12, 2007

Australian Water Resources Minister, Malcolm Turnbull will release a report in Brisbane today which suggests the piping of water from rivers in Northern New South Wales to South-East Queensland would be a cost-effective solution to water supply problems in drought stricken South-East Queensland.

The report comes just days after South-East Queensland was placed on level 5 water restrictions, the second most severe and the emergence of a report by the Queensland government recommending the construction of a desalination plant north of Brisbane to tackle the region's water crisis.

According to newspapers published by News Limited, the National Water Commission report, which was compiled by the Snowy Mountains Energy Corporation outlines five proposals for piping water from Northern NSW into Queensland. Four of those include damming the Clarence River and pumping water to the Logan River and one suggesting to dam the Tweed River and pumping water to the Nerang River.

The water commission report argues that the best solution over the long-term would be to damn the Clarence River above Duck Creek.

It is believed that should the plan go ahead, the federal government will spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the project. The report argues that the piping of water from NSW would cost less than water recycling, desalination or the proposed dam at Traveston Crossing.

The report is expected to gain only minor attention from the Queensland government, which claims that it is too far to pump water from NSW.

Queensland's opposition leader, Jeff Seeney said the government should of looked at the possibility of getting water from NSW long ago and that the distance water is to be piped is much shorter than the Traveston Crossing Dam peoposal. "The northern river proposal is talking about piping water over a much shorter distance than the Traveston proposal, so it is likely to be much more cost effective," he said.

The report warned of the difficulty the proposal would have gaining support in NSW. "The rivers of Northern NSW are subject to a number of legislative and policy requirements that would need to be addressed in a more detailed assessment," it warns.

Ian Tiley, mayor of the Clarence Valley Council warns that any plan to dam the Clarence River would meet with stiff resistance from local residents. "If there's one issue that unites the vast majority of the Clarence people, it's the mighty Clarence River," he warned.

"And the council, and I believe the vast majority of people in this valley, are totally opposed to (the plan).

"We'll stand shoulder to shoulder and fight with the Clarence citizens."

NSW Nationals MP for Clarence Steve Cansdell said he believes the water minister should "get in a kayak and go up the Clarence ... and just have a look and see the pristine nature of this and the delicate nature of our water system".


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Plants on other planets may not be green

April 12, 2007

On Wednesday, NASA scientists said that, unlike green plants on the planet Earth, plants on other planets may be the color red or yellow.

Plants on Earth are green because they contain chlorophyll. The chlorophyll appears green because it absorbs mainly blue and red light in order to produce food for the plant via photosynthesis, while reflecting the green light frequency.

Scientists at NASA point out that if the stars for other planets were in a different state than our sun and if the light frequency that reached the planets' surface was different, then the plants on those planets would have also evolved a different type of photosynthetic pigment other than chlorophyll. This pigment would be dedicated towards the different light frequencies received by the planet causing the plant to appear a different color from green such as red and yellow.

Carl Pilcher, director of the NASA Astrobiology Institute, said, "This work broadens our understanding of how life may be detected on Earth-like planets around other stars, while simultaneously improving our understanding of life on Earth. This approach--studying Earth life to guide our search for life on other worlds--is the essence of astrobiology."

The research into the color of plants on other planets was started by California Institute of Technology astrobiologist Vikki Meadows and a host of other scientists who were studying how light is absorbed and reflected by plants and some bacteria on Earth. Using this data, a computer model was designed to predict the color of plants and bacteria on other planets.

Nancy Kiang, a biometeorologist at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, noted that it was unlikely any of the plants would be the color blue, "It appears that harvesting blue light is very common across the board for photosynthetic organisms. I think it is unlikely that anything will be blue."


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NHL: Nasty start to playoffs for Penguins, Senators

April 11, 2007

''Senators lead series 1-0. (Best of Seven)''

The young were given their first taste of the, Wednesday night. Needless to say, they didn't enjoy it. The defeated the Penguins 6-3 to take a one game advantage in the best of seven series. The game went from bad to downright nasty, with 20 penalties between the two clubs throughout the game, keeping the officiating crew busy throughout the game.

The experienced Senators exploded out of the gates, taking an early lead just 1:37 into regulation, when scored the first goal of the series. would score 5:01 later to double the Sens' lead to two goals. In the second period, would give Ottawa a 3-0 advantage at 14:38. The Penguins would finally get on the scoresheet 2:20 later, when rookie scored his first career playoff goal, to make it a two goal game. scored the Senators' second power play goal of the night, just 0:09 into the final period, beating Penguins goaltender, who was under siege for most of the night. Ottawa wouldn't let up, scoring two more goals before found the back of the net. Sidney Crosby would tally his first career playoff goal with :49 left in the game, burying the puck behind Ottawa goaltender.

Crosby appeared to have scored earlier in the third period to narrow the score to two goals, when both Crosby and the puck plowed into the net, but the ruling was overturned, leaving Crosby and the Penguins bench shaking their heads in disgust. In the post game press conference, Crosby said that he would have to see the replay before ruling for himself if he had scored or not.

Fights erupted several times throughout the game, and the penalties mounted for each team as the tension grew. The teams entered the game with a mutual dislike for each other, and no doubt left loathing each other. Perhaps the most exciting outcome of the game is the anticipation for the next game of the series. The Penguins and Senators face each other again, Saturday afternoon, in the best of seven series.

Three Stars of the Game
#1 = Daniel Alfredsson, RW, Ottawa Senators - 1 Assist

#2 = Chris Neil, RW, Ottawa Senators - 1 Goal, 1 Assist

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Wikinews:Inactive Policy

This policy is to address edit privileges extended to once active, and now inactive, Accredited Reporters, Administrators, Bureaucrats, Stewards, CheckUser and Oversight members. The purpose of the policy is to remove sensitive privileges that were given to active community contributors.

A contributor who has been inactive for 9 months will be eligible for their privileges to be removed. They may lose their privileges through a nomination for their removal in a voting process that would also address abuse.

Wikinews recognizes that reasonable arguments may exist both for, and against, the removal of privileges, and that each case will have its own discussion. There should be no taboo against nominating an editor for removal due to inactivity.

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 * 2) A removal vote for an editor will last at least one month because an editor may take some time to respond and other users with low activity may have opinions.

All users are asked to accept that:
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Talk:NHL: Nasty start to playoffs for Penguins, Senators

The title is slightly POV for the Penguins; I don't think it wasn't nasty from a Senators standpoint. Could I suggest a title more like "Penguins lose post-season debut against Senators"? —Zachary talk 03:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I guess it was pretty nasty from a general standpoint; the title is fine, though I wish I could've watched the game. :) —Zachary talk 18:19, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

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The bar you are setting for remaining an admin is almost higher than that for becoming an admin on Wikinews. --SVTCobra 03:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, adminship is granted when one feels they can trust a user. Trust is fragile, in my experience.  Thunderhead  ►  03:50, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I would propose adding an Assumed resignations section to WN:A where, after matching the criteria we end up agreeing on, inactive administrators and bureaucrats are listed. After a period of listing there, for example a week, a bureaucrat may de-sysop.
 * My thinking is, we should have a process that starts when the criteria are met and a period of time for anyone on the wiki who knows the inactive user to contact them.
 * I'm not going to vote on this at the moment, I think a vote should be deferred until there has been time to discuss the rules we are going to apply. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:32, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I disagree Brian. That is just more work, and will become a popularity contest, "I like UserXXX support him....I hate UserYYY"
 * I strongly support this policy, and am making it my goal to ensure it is passed. I support Edbrown’s changes, that includes everyone who is elected into a position of trust.
 * This must pass, in a strong form, not some watered down liberal form, I proposed this, as there was talk on the talkpage of WN:A, and as 1) I get sick of the “We already have 46 admins, why do we need any more” and 2) It will allow us to be more generous in granting adminship, because adminship can be removed if they are inactive, (and already if adminship is misused, the arbcom can remove it)

Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 08:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with Brian (New Zealand). I propose that we directly follow the policy on Meta.  Thunderhead  ►  08:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Note Thunder, that this is slightly different than meta's policy. It has been adapted for wikinews, what works there, will IMO most likely work in the same form hereBrian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 08:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not suggesting it be turned into a popularity contest. There shouldn't be exceptions, just an opportunity for someone in the community to either email or place a message on the listed user's talk.  --Brian McNeil / talk 09:35, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, yes. We need to adapt it, and we need to notify the user.  Thunderhead  ►  09:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, a warning should be sent, before they loose it, giving everyone a chance to comeback, if they can. However, that should not be in the policy, it should be something that is done, as of respect and as a way to maybe get some users back (even if it was just to meet the min requirements.) So, if every admin, currently 46, wrote 1 article each 6 months, and 100 eidts each, that is a damn sight better for us, than no article, and no 4600 edits. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 12:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Link to policy on meta please? --Brian McNeil / talk 22:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Meta Admin policy Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 22:11, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think commons has something similar. to contrast with wikipedia's policy where there is 1200 some admins. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Meta's policy is not like Wikinews'. They vote on removing the users' admin rights, we remove the users' admin rights immediatly without voting on it. I would support this policy if we follow Meta's. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  23:01, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Follow:No one has said it is the same! what works there, will not and cannot work here. A vote, is wrong because it comes a popularity contest, "I like UserXXX support him....I hate UserYYY". This policy does not get a procedure on how removing admins is done. OIt just sets a standard that current admins must meet. The policy should not say a vote has to be held, remember voting is evil. However, I would expect a procedure (note the different between policy and procedure) will be developed, where like Briammc says before. Add an Assumed resignations section to WN:A where, after matching the criteria in this policy, inactive administrators and bureaucrats are listed. After a period of listing there, for example a week, then the users privileges will be removed. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 23:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Ummm...I looked at the Meta page for voting on removing admin rights...I don't see any hate comments. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  00:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You are completely, and deliberately missing my point. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 00:54, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

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 * Voting is evil, plus it should be deabted before it is voted on Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 03:22, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

*Support DragonFire1024 04:50, 12 April 2007 (UTC) Per brianmc's comment above but will still likely support. DragonFire1024 07:37, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support  Thunderhead  ►  03:52, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Support --Nzgabriel | Talk 09:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC).
 * oppose I don't see the need for this (with exception to maybe accredited reporters), I don't see the need to de-admin people just because they're inactive. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Especially considering that arbitrators are relelected every year, so if they're inactive they won't be elected again. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:09, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Oppose This sounds like we are punishing admins because they are inactive. Some of them need to leave for good reasons, real life, etc. If a user doesn't want to be an admin anymore they can request it. This policy should only apply to accredited reporters. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  21:33, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Why Not Bawolff? why should we allow inactive admins been GOD, who feel that they have "unlimited privilege and power", these adminship, etc is a tool to assist in this sites most important function, and that "is" news stories. your right about arbitrators been reelected, so that has been removed. There is a need for this, a very important need, to keep checks and balances in place in Wikinews, to ensure the community is trusting, and to adminship etc to be put into perspective. Admins, Bureaucrats and AR are not different from other users, except that after a certain amount of time they have earned the trust of the community to perform certain functions that new users need more time to learn about, users come and go, but in fact, there is a far smaller number of active Admins and Bureaucrats who patrol Recent Changes and do what they can to ensure the high quality of our content (and see that it the content is provided in an amicable manner). Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 20:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Just my personal opinion, Honestly I don't have a very good argument to back it up. *ducks*. Mostly, if they were able to get it in the past, then they should keep it (IMO) unless the community looses faith (via a de-admin vote). Bawolff ☺☻ 21:37, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. Why should good admins who earned the community's trust be removed of their admin status? They shoudn't. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  21:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Old admins...really old ones who have not edited in forever, have NOT earned the trust of new users. DragonFire1024 21:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * They did not earn this communities trust. Wikinews changes week by week. Hardly no user, who was here when I started, is still here today. How can you expect todays community to trust these users, when they don't know these users. When you get this tools, you should be active, it is no excuse not to be - why do you need them, as you can't use them when your not active. If you look at admin history, over the entire history of wikinews, we should not be giving out admimship as every (or nearly every) admin's article count has gone down, and in many cases died after receiving adminship, and that is what this is to address. When you receive adminship, you make a commiment, a contract, with the community to meet those basic requirements. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 21:56, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

"They did not earn this communities trust. How can you expect todays community to trust these users, when they don't know these users."

Ok. I request that BrianMc, Bawolff, Brian New Zealand, etc, be removed of their status because I joined Wikinews after they became admins. LOL. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  22:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * This policy is not to target active users like that, who were editing the day you join WN, and are still editing today. It is for users who have never edited at all, in your time been here. Then turning up and taking over. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 22:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Huh?? From what I see on this page is that this policy is about admins that have less than 100 edits in the last 6 months get de-admined, not "for users who have never edited at all, in your time been here. Then turning up and taking over." Huh??? Isn't it good if they start editing("turning up and taking over")??? I am confused by your comments. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  22:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * This Is what this policy is for. If you are not active, you would not need adminship. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 22:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Oppose I do not feel the requirements accurately reflect what inactive means. I have a big problem with the requirement of “at least one news article.” From October 2005 till mid August 2006 I did not write any articles (I did 30+ in the weeks before my break and was burned out). I would not consider my self inactive though, I was very involved in the community and made over 3000 edits during those months. Mine is a bit of an extreme case, but these hard numbers are unfair to our users who are involved and active copy editors or doing admin things but are not creating new articles.We have no real reason to get rid of admins, so some sort of low min number of edits (~10-15 in 6 months) would be good. --Cspurrier 23:09, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If wikinews admins can't write a news article, then they are not helping in improving the site. They are just setting more policy's rules and voting to delete news articles someone else has made a effort to write. Why should someone who has not written, have a right to delete a article, that a user in good faith has written. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 23:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * So, users like Bawolff, etc, are not helping in improving the site? This is an insult to those users reading this. I ask that you review our civility policy. Thank you. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  00:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I ask you to review that policy. Do not cite policy as attack, as that is not in-line with WN:E. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 00:56, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I wasn't trying to attack you by citing a guidline. I am grearly sorry if I have offended you. Lets all try to respect everyone's opinions regardless if they support this new policy or not :-) — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  01:08, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, lets calm down here for a little bit. I do understand where you (people supporting this) are coming from, but having a guideline to remove adminship, etc for being inactive, where you don't have to be active to get said position in the first place seems a bit strong to me. I would support CSpurrier's idea though, as in all honsetly, I'm not really sure that people like (To pull a random name out of a hat), who hasn't had a single edit in 8 months, should still have adminship. Not to say that if s/he becomes active again s/he shouldn't get it back fairly easily perhaps, but I think that keeping it for him/her after so long may be a bit too much to expect. On a side note, its actually intreasting to look back at my RfA. out of the 7 who supported me, only 3 are still active (Ed, Deprify, CSpurrier) three have left (Amgine, MrM, Neutralizer), and to be truthful I don't even remember who Wolfrider was. Its sort of sad, that only three of those names are still here. There has actually been lots of changes in the site population since I joined.   Bawolff ☺☻ 01:27, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Oppose: I think something like this should be created for Accredited Reporters, but for the rest an "inactive admins" section does just fine.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:02, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I think I am so tired of
Jimbo not writing a news story, where's Eloquence, what about Angela? And don't even go there that they only go to Wikipedia. Their heads are in a cloud, missing it. -Edbrown05 08:50, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * retract on Eloquence comment... but it stands on Jimbo and Angela, they never did a thing here, except maybe condone this cite. -Edbrown05 08:55, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't people write news at Wikinews? I'm guilty of every crime that exists, but think I managed to get a news story out somewhere in that mix! -Edbrown05 09:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm sure Jimbo has a story in him, but won't even comment on a featured article, about him on a Wikimedia foundation news page. How's that for... disengaged (is the word maybe)? -Edbrown05 09:15, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think any of those users will met this requirement. Eloquence may met the amount of edits (have not counted, so not 100% sure) but he does not met the 1 article rule Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 10:14, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Eloquence has a little over 200 edits in the last 12 months. However, the life of the wiki is new stories... --Brian McNeil / talk 11:27, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Although I don't think anyone would really consider eloquence active at the moment, he definitly wrote stories in the past. I personally have written very few stories [0 as of when I was nominated for adminship], but I feel I'm still a useful wikinewsie. There is other things to this site then just writing new stories (even if that's the most important part). Bawolff ☺☻ 17:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Bawolff, yes you are a useful wikinewsie. There are other things to this site then just writing new stories, but writing news stories is wikinews, if a Bureaucrat, Administrator, or Accredited Reporter is not willing to met a requirement to have one, only 1 article every 6 months, how useful is that wikinewsie really to the site.
 * You say eloquence is not active at the moment, but definitely wrote stories in the past” the point of this policy is not to make exceptions, the point of this policy is to have one rule for all. You met the min requirements, or you lose it. Now, I believe that is fair, for the user, and for the community Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 21:56, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

edits of 90 of which must be in the mainspace
that might be drilling, what makes the difference between a mainspace edit and one otherwise? I do agree it must be measurable, but the measurement must be understood. -Edbrown05 09:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed, I have changed it, so 100 edits, and an article. That is fair in my books. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 10:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Another obnoxious comment by SVTCobra
If only half of you dedicated half as much time to creating content for the main page as you do deliberating this policy crap, we'd have half-decent news-coverage on Wikinews. Oh, and don't get me started on the people recruiting for "Wikinews Video 2.0". The most precious resource on Wikinews is the human resource, and we have precious little of it here. Wikipedia succeeded because of its mass content. What I see happening here (at Wikinews), is a bunch of people dreaming to make it cooler and compete with TV and video-blogs. My point is that Wikinews can only succeed if the breadth of our news-coverage exceeds that which can be found anywhere else. If a reasonably web-savvy person seeks news on what's happening today, they go to CNN or BBC or similar. If they want to know about a specific subject, they go to site dedicated to that, like "space.com" if you want news about space exploration or CNET for tech news. Wikinews has to exceed the depth and breadth of both kinds of sources to succeed. It can only happen if people contribute stories of every kind. I have chosen to concentrate on the "big stories" since I see that as the bottom line. Without that, the stories about hotels in Buffalo, NY and anti-drug advertising aimed at teens in New Zealand and the color of plant on other planets, is just an exercise in randomness, that you cannot expect anyone to tune into. --SVTCobra 02:03, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well said. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:42, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Apart from I cannot see how this is related to inactive admins. This is well said, and is reason why I want things to improve. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 03:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That is another point SVTCobra [what? wikimedia got u running scared about being politically correct?], when the right thing to do is be somebody who newer particpants recognize as somebody who is interested in what they are: news. If the old timers are going to sit back and think they can officiate? --I chuckled... it already hasn't worked that way--. -Edbrown05 11:24, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Another policy option
Bureaucrats, Administrators, and Accredited Reporters who become inactive are to be notified on their talk page and by e-mail. If the user wishes to keep the privileged status, they can post to WN:A within 14 days. A poll (in RFA format) is then held to determine if the user should keep their status. Users who do not reply or for whom consensus is not reached will have their privileged status removed. I have proposed another policy option. This option allows the community rather then an arbitrary number to decide if the person still has the community's trust. --Cspurrier 20:34, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That sounds okay to me. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Opposed Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 00:16, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * As I have said before, this WILL make it become a popularity contest. A vote, is wrong because it comes a, "I like UserXXX support him....I hate UserYYY". Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 00:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * So what, it currently is a popularity contest. You win adminship by popularity votes, and the people who've lost adminship (through RFDA) loose it through popularity contests. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * When you have "arbitrary number" that is a standard every admin has to met. If you have a vote, some users will lose, why other ones will win. That is not fair for the people who lose. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 00:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * What exactly is wrong with being “unfair” to the people who lose? Adminship is not some right that should be issued to people for completing some set of tasks. It is granted after the community expresses their support for the candidate. A user who is not popular odds are also does not have the trust of the comunnity. --Cspurrier 01:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I probably should have also made my proposal more clear, the poll in my proposal is not designed to be the indicator of inactivity (some sort of arbitrary number will have to be used for that) but rather the method of allowing people to keep their status when the community believes it to be in the best interests of the community. --Cspurrier 01:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Why?
I am not sure I see the rationale the Rationale is attempting to provide. I can see some value in removing the status of people who no longer have the trust of the community, but I fail to see how inactivity can be anything but a very crude indicator of the community's trust. How does x edits and x new articles indicate the community's trust. Is a user who makes lots of minor edits and manages to write up a stub every 6 months any more valuable or more trusted then a user who copy edits and expands dozens of articles and participates in the community discussions?--Cspurrier 01:39, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Reverting my proposal
I found this to be rather rude and counter productive. This policy proposal is in the Wikinews namespace, not in user space. The community space is for the community to edit, no one user owns content in this namespace. Additionally by selecting a name such as 'Inactive Policy' this page has been turned into the place to propose inactivity policies. If this was to only hold one option, it should have been named something like 'Inactive Policy ( Brian New Zealand's proposal) or Inactive Policy with a standard every admin has to met ' :) Policy should be allowed to develop naturally, preventing one option from being considered just harms the development of consensus on any version of a policy. --Cspurrier 01:50, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry Craig, I through you had removed the first one. I did not see the "other" part Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 04:22, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I still say you are out the door if you are here no more...
... how could it be otherwise? If you want to quantify it, maybe it refuses to be put into statistics easily. PVJ59 sez "i'm out the door", and there is no reaction from Wikinews? The user still has admin status. Is that correct? -Edbrown05 10:04, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way, who is PVJ59? -Edbrown05 10:06, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, whois the whole host of inactive administrators... and accreditted reporters. This is a news site, not some academic place. -Edbrown05 10:19, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The Acredited reporters list if for authentication by events if people use the credentials awarded by wikinews to get into an event. This is the list of them. Not really sure what the innactive list of admins is really for.  Maybe hide it at sometime??--Mark Talk 10:22, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe hide inactive accreditted reporters then too. -Edbrown05 10:26, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Note, PVJ evaded quite well his deadmiship. Technically he should not have it anymore as he lost his adminship in a request of de-adminship, than he left and we forgot to deadmin him. (personally i don't really care though). Ed, should know who he is though, he was active well he was here. The inacive adminship list is so people don't ask someone an admin related question, to someone who isn't here anymore. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:26, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Why I oppose
After reading the comments made it is clear to me that some people consider the Adminship position as some sort of "elite club". It is not. Adminship is granted to those who either a) desrve it or b) are trusted enough to be granted it. It is (yes, is) a popularity vote. Nothing can really change that. But de-adminising someone because they have become inactive is something that should not be enocuraged. In my opinion it would be used to keep the admin team to those few "elite" who edit every day. I'm guilty of missing some days from editing - does that make me less trusted? I don't think so - I personaly wouldn't think any less of some people if they missed a year from editing - that person gained the trust of the community who granted his sysop status, and that should not be revoked without good reason (abuse, primarily). --Skenmy(t•c•w•i) 10:24, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That is the the flip side of the coin and I fully appreciate that. It doesn't change my mind, but I do understand. I don't think you can leave an organization for a year and come back to it with what you left with. -Edbrown05 10:29, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

not a big deal
Just a historical note, the idea behind near permanent adminship was always "adminship is no big deal" so everyone who behaves almost all the time should be an admin. I can also imagine that bureaucrats and accredited reporters are slightly different issues.

I can say that it really does not matter much: Most old admins, and all bureaucrats, are fairly stable people. So no big crazy wheel wars from the past. But such people also won't be offended if you take away their adminship.

Why not try just reformatting the admin list into columns? Nyarlathotep 14:30, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Admins have two powers: page deletion and blocking. Its clear that most non-vandals should have page deletion powers.  Otoh blocking powers can really intimidate new users and make people mad.  So adminship votes are really about blocking powers, i.e. handling of conflict and stability.
 * To me, this suggests that inactive admins should be kept simply because they are normally stable people who handle conflict well. Otoh you can obviously nominate some long inactive admin for deadminship on the grounds that "they are inactive and they were never that great anyway".  PVJ seems like the obvious candidate if you wish to try this.  Nyarlathotep 14:48, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Work towards getting this implemented
I'd like to see some work towards getting this policy implemented. I'm not sure I agree with the policy as it stands but I completely agree with the principle that inactive admins and bureaucrats should have these rights removed and accredited reporters should be active. For this reason I have added a third option which I would welcome comments on. It would probably be appropriate to discuss who we should make exempt from any such policy. Adambro
 * And the third option is? -Edbrown05 08:32, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Policy option 3. Adambro 09:25, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the weakest version of the policy has the highest chance of getting adopted. I dislike the 100 edits in 6 months criterion: I think inactivity can be defined as no activity at all during a 6 month period. Then they should be shifted to an "inactive" list. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe that the exemptions for jimbo etc should be extended to any user who has not been elected through the RfA process (except temporary/emergency adminship) or who would have been promoted without the RfA process (e.g. devs, sysadmins, board members, foundation members). TheFearow | userpage|contribs 21:28, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Eloquence, Jimbo, and Brion are the people who have not been normally elected. (Eloquence made herself an admin when he founded the wiki, Eloquence made Jimbo an admin when he started to hang arround, and Brion i assume just got it for being one of the primary devs) Eloquence stood for what is essentially a reconfirmation after the site got off the ground. Mindspillage is just a normal admin who got elected before she got on board. You might also want to consider bots in this. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * In future, the foundation may sysop other members of the foundation etc. We just need to future-proof it. TheFearow | userpage|contribs 03:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well obvious they may do whatever they want and any of our local policies won't stop them, but they have not ever done it for the past (Jimbo was the only member on board well he got his adminship, and it had very little to do with being on board, and much to do with his status as founder of wikipedia). I agree with your idea of any extra-communital adminship grantings should be considered exempt. (However for the record, I fundamentally disagree with this policy, and as a whole don't support it in any way). Bawolff ☺☻ 04:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Even if it may only be used once in the future of Wikinews, it still needs to be in here somewhere, so people dont go around screaming "what do we do" when a non-community-elected admin becomes inactive. TheFearow | userpage|contribs 05:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Practicing necromancy and resurrecting an inconclusive discussion
I believe we're now in a position where we should move on from the above discussion, and inconclusive vote and work towards something that will clear down the list of inactive admins. Please review all above and comment on my below proposal. The issue of "I like xxx" is excluded, although there is nothing stopping people from contacting xxx and inviting them back at any stage in the process. I've flagged and sub-sectioned the below additions. If a section heading doesn't have "discussion" please leave as-is and sign comments in discussion sections. If consensus starts to form around edits to my proposals strike prior content and replace so it can instantly be seen how things are developing. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

December 2007 proposed rules
We divide WN:A into active administrators, inactive administrators, pending retirement, and procedurally retired.
 * active - as now.
 * inactive - no main name space edits in 3 months +
 * pending retirement - no edits whatsoever in 6 months + (notified of status change)
 * procedurally retired - no main name space edits in 9 months + (privs removed)

December 2007 proposed rules - discussion

 * Note the "odd" exception I've worked into the above, you can move to procedurally retired from inactive if you don't edit in main name space. This is where I think we need some discussion on this, and a list of admins that fall into the latter two categories. For implementation I believe we should default all to the third category and give notice of two or three months before de-sysop.

Regaining the sysop bit - discussion
I, personally, would be opposed to criteria other than those applied at the prior successful RfA being applied for re-adminship (i.e. no special rules for ex-admins). I would prefer we place trust in the community to take that into account. One thing I think we have to consider is that many of our contributors are quite young and may go to college and take a gap year to go trekking round Nepal or something like that. If they come back, start editing and sticking delete tags everywhere (I mean appropriately), I think I'd trust the community to fairly re-admin them after an intense grilling about their time out and all the pictures they should've put on Commons. ;-) --Brian McNeil / talk 17:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Accredited Reporter inactivity - December 2007 discussion
I believe the rules - or to use the more appropriate term - procedure for accredited reporters should be similarly framed. Open to input on that to draft a new section which is as concise as that for sysops. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

A very simple policy
How about :
 * Any admin inactive for 6 months has their listing moved to "retireable" from merely "inactive".
 * No one should yell at anyone for posting an RfdA for any "retireable" admin.
 * But any such RfdA should mention if we're talking about no edits whatsoever, no main namespace edits, etc.
 * Bureaucrats should let such an inactivity RfdA run for at least a month before closing.

I think you'd be pleasantly surprised at how well this minimal change would work. Anyway you'd need some sort of vote for deadmin because the Bureaucrats probably won't feel comfortable making the change without one. Nyarlathotep 05:37, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Alright, I just gave your police a rewrite along these lines. Give it a think.  Nyarlathotep 06:55, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Fine by me. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:16, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

 * This version is very wordy but doesn't actually say a great deal about how we handle this situation although I agree with the criteria here that after 9 months a user can be considered inactive and their rights removed via the normal request process. However, this version fails to address a big concerns of what we do if these people return? My suggestion would be that there is no "speedy" restoration of rights and that it should go through the normal process and that a RfA etc shouldn't be considered with much merit if it is made early on after their return.

 * My next concern with this version is the insistence that the user is contacted after being inactive for 9 months. As I've mentioned at WN:A, whilst this might be considered courteous, I think there are a number of issues about this. For what purpose would we contact them and what exactly would we be saying? Come back and you can keep your rights? If someone is away for a prolonged period of time then they've forfeited these and it probably isn't appropriate for them to return to all the buttons. Adambro 10:47, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

 * This version deals with such issues in the way that's least annoying to the Bureaucrats : voting. No body gets a free pass back in, but obviously people will vote quickly for good admins that left.  It's just not that complex an issue.  Also, it's not that wordy, this "policy" is mostly just a restatement of other policies like "assume good faith", I think that's why Brian tried to promote it so quickly, but I think a lot of people need to see the line "there should be no taboo against nominating a pensioner for removal of status" in print before they feel comfortable with it.  Nyarlathotep 05:54, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

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