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This isn't ready for review yet, as both the cited sources come from the same wire service (AAP).

As AAP's source seems to be entirely a statement or press release by the RSPCA, I don't know if there will be a genuinely independent second source for a synthesis article; in which case I suggest that Wikinews should choose not to run this story.

--InfantGorilla (talk) 08:22, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I've added more sources now =) BKCW8''' talk  06:25, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Law enforcement officers
Australian readers will be aware that RSPCA Inspectors have law enforcement powers. I added that as background for those of us who don't know that. My source is http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/4790_8741.htm ( a summary of the Queensland Animal Care and Protection Act 2001 ). --InfantGorilla (talk) 14:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

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editprotected "was reportedly struggling to breath" should be "was reportedly struggling to breathe". Heavy Water (talk) 20:44, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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Review of revision 1059795 [Failed]
Paragraphs 9 and 10 of The Australian piece are sources for the nickname, the tavern ejection, and the return visit. --InfantGorilla (talk) 11:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

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Why is this an election promise if the election hasn't been called?

In Australia, are government announcements strictly separated from campaign ones? If so which was this?

Is there a possibility that the government will push through the tax changes before the election?


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Man claims 84 percent ownership of Facebook

July 14, 2010

Last month, Paul D. Ceglia filed suit against Facebook, the world's largest social network, claiming that he rightfully owns 84 percent of the company. The lawsuit, filed in the, bases its claims on a 2003 contract between Ceglia and Facebook founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg. The contract reportedly states that Zuckerberg would give Ceglia 50 percent ownership in the company in exchange for designing a website "similar to a live functioning yearbook with the working title of 'The Face Book'," and paying a 1000 fee. Ceglia would also get an extra percentage point every day after January 1, 2004 until the work was completed.

Earlier this month, Judge Thomas Brown issued a temporary restraining order that prevents transfer of Facebook's assets in light of the ongoing lawsuit. According to Victor P. Goldberg, who teaches at Columbia University's Law School, the lawsuit may get tripped up by the, which is six years in New York. PC World says that one problem with Ceglia's claim is that the contract was purportedly signed in 2003, while Zuckerberg didn't register the domain name thefacebook.com until January 2004.

This is not the first time Ceglia has appeared in court. In 2009, Andrew Cuomo accused Ceglia of fraud. The state claims that Ceglia took more than $200,000 from customers of a wood-pellet fuel company, and failed to deliver any products or refunds; this case is still ongoing. A Facebook spokesman has stated that they believe this suit is completely frivolous and will fight it vigorously.


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Other countries
A quick Google search turned up some descriptions of how related issues are handled in other English-speaking countries:

 * http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2010-06-22/education/education-commentary/foreign-exchange-students-risk-exposure-to-predators (June 22, 2010)

 * http://www.schools.nsw.edu.au/studentsupport/programs/studentexchange/faqs/index.php#Q6

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1221557/Criminal-checks-families-hosting-foreign-pupils-protect-children-paedophiles-end-school-exchanges.html
 * In 2009 the UK government was widely criticised for proposing background checks for host families.

 * http://www.google.com/search?q=child%20protection%20exchange%20students&tbs=nws:1

Hope that helps. --InfantGorilla (talk) 11:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Embargo?
Is it still embargoed? How come AFP ran the Wong/Saewyc study yesterday: did they screw up? --InfantGorilla (talk) 14:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

 * No, the title was created before the embargo was lifted. -  Amgine | t 16:58, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


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Crash data suggests driver error in Toyota accidents

July 14, 2010

According to , the U.S. has analyzed data from the vehicles involved in accidents caused by sudden acceleration, which led to Toyota, the world's top automaker, recalling a large number of automobiles. Early analysis showed that the throttle was wide open and the brakes weren't engaged when the cars crashed, and suggests that the accidents may have been caused by drivers unintentionally flooring the accelerator instead of the brakes. The U.S. Department of Transportation did not confirm this report.

However, Toyota is still under federal investigation for a number of known issues with its cars' acceleration. The accelerator is known to not return to idle after it has been released, and the floor mats are known to trap the accelerator pedal. Toyota is also suspected of having electronic in its computer-controlled throttle systems, but released a statement on Wednesday saying that its investigations found no problems in the throttle systems.

Over the years Toyota has received more than 3000 complaints about sudden acceleration. These may have caused up to 75 fatal crashes that led to 93 deaths. Due to these accidents, Toyota provided the (NHTSA) with ten  from cars involved in accidents. However, the NHTSA has only managed to confirm that one of these accidents was caused by malfunctions in the car – an accident in California this August that was caused by the floor mat trapping the gas pedal in a depressed position.

The NHTSA, in conjunction with NASA, has begun a broader study into what caused these accidents, however conclusions aren't expected for months. The ongoing lawsuits against Toyota could result in more than $10 billion of damages.


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Rofl..."the AAP news agency says he was allowed back in for one more drink before being taken to the hospital." :D


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Review of revision 1059969 [Passed]
this is just silly.. does anyone really think they wouldn't try both pedals


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US hands Iraq high-profile prisoners

July 14, 2010

The United States today handed over 26 Iraqi prisoners, including, Saddam Hussein's former deputy prime minister to the Iraqi government.

The prisoners were held in at, the US's detention facility in Iraq. Control of Camp Cropper is scheduled to be transferred to the Iraqi government in a ceremony on Thursday.

Aziz, 74, was sentenced to fifteen years of incarceration by the Iraqi judicial system for the 1992 executions of 42 merchants who profiteered.

According to Deputy Justice Minister Busho Ibrahim, 29 additional prisoners were handed over ten months ago. Ibrahim said, "As of today, we have received 55 former regime officials, the main one is Tariq Aziz, and the others are the oil and culture ministers."

Aziz's defense attorney Badee Izzat Aref told the Associated Press that Aziz feared the Iraqi government would execute him. Aref said Aziz told him that "[t]he Iraqi government will certainly kill me. I fear for my life. I expect I won't live except for days. I'm afraid they'll poison my food or won't give me my medicine to silence me. President Obama is no different from Bush, who has Iraqi blood on his hands."

Ibrahim asked the to maintain custody of about 200 detainees for security reasons, including. The Iraqi government will take custody of the remaining 1,800 prisoners held at Camp Cropper.

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Animal rights protestor found guilty of Oxford arson plot

July 15, 2010 An animal rights protestor who left home-made petrol bombs at buildings of the University of Oxford has been jailed for ten years. Mel Broughton, a prominent member of the campaign group, had denied the charges of conspiracy to commit arson and possession of an article with intent to destroy property, but the jury at Oxford Crown Court found him guilty by unanimous verdict after deliberating for over five hours.

Broughton made his devices using water bottles and sparklers. He put one on the roof of a cricket pavilion belonging to in November 2006, and two under a portable cabin at  in February 2007. The device at the cricket pavilion, which contained twelve litres of petrol, went off and caused about £14,000 of damage. The Templeton College petrol bombs, together containing nine litres of petrol, did not ignite, and DNA on one of them linked Broughton to the attacks. He was protesting about the university's decision to back the construction of an animal research laboratory, and a police search of his home found more sparklers, as well as documents about the university and its staff.

This was the second time that Broughton had been convicted of the offences: his conviction in February 2009 was overturned by the and a re-trial was ordered. This began on June 16, and ended on Tuesday with Broughton's conviction. Judge Patrick Eccles QC imposed a ten-year prison sentence, which will be reduced by two and a half years for the time that Broughton has already served in custody. When sentencing Broughton after the first trial, Judge Eccles said that these events "were part of a ruthless conspiracy to instil fear in all those connected to the laboratory."

An officer from, Detective Superintendent Mark Jones, said that Broughton "was someone who believes direct action, in the form of planting explosives and setting fires, is acceptable", adding that the conviction was the "right result". A university spokesperson said that it "accepted the rights of protestors to voice their objections within the law", but would work "to protect staff and students from criminal activity of any kind."


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Your recent contributions are considered to be spam and have been reverted or deleted. Should you believe that your contributions are not spam, please argue your case on your talk page, or in WN:ALERT.

Further spamming may result in your editing privileges being removed. Please contribute to Wikinews in a constructive fashion instead. Diego Grez return fire 22:09, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

This is your last/only warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikinews. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles will be reverted quickly. Diego Grez return fire 22:13, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

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6.5 magnitude aftershock hits Bío Bío, Chile

July 15, 2010 Another large aftershock of the February 27 8.8 earthquake — of 6.5 magnitude — rocked Chile earlier on Wednesday, the USGS reported. Seismologic Service measured the aftershock's magnitude as 6.6.

The aftershock occurred at 08:32:22 UTC (04:32:22 AM local time), at a depth of 28.4 kilometers (17.6 miles). Its epicenter was located 55 kilometers at the southwest of, ; 100 kilometers at the northwest of , ; 100 kilometers at the southwest of , Bío Bío; and 560 kilometers at the southwest of Santiago, Metropolitan Region.

Wikinews reporter reports the aftershock was clearly felt in Pichilemu. The aftershock lasted in about ten seconds. Sergio Barrientos, Director of University of Chile Seismologic Service said that it is a "late aftershock" of the February earthquake. "This seism is of the same type as February 27th, but much lighter," he said.

Another aftershock, magnitude 5.1, took place at 20:36:08 local time (Thursday 00:36:08 UTC). It occurred at a depth of 44.3 kilometers (27.5 miles), and the epicenter was located 45 kilometers southwest of, Valparaíso; 100 kilometers at the southwest of Valparaíso; 110 kilometers at the northwest of Rancagua, O'Higgins Region; and 125 kilometers at the southwest of Santiago.


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Facebook and UK government clash over tributes to killer

July 14, 2010

Social networking site Facebook was tonight refusing to remove pages set up in tribute to British killer, despite pressure from the highest levels of the UK government. A Downing Street official had earlier said that a complaint would likely be lodged with Facebook, following questions to Prime Minister David Cameron in Parliament.

Raoul Moat killed one person and seriously wounded two others in Northumbria following his release from prison, prompting a major week-long manhunt. A standoff with police ended early on Saturday morning with Moat shooting himself. An investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission is ongoing.

Thirteen people have now been arrested, with several under suspicion of assisting Moat in evading the police. Flowers have been left on the riverbank where Moat shot himself, and outside his home in Newcastle. A tribute page on Facebook titled "RIP Raoul Moat You Legend" has attracted over 30,000 members.

During the weekly Prime Minister's Questions session, Conservative MP asked David Cameron to contact Facebook about removing the page, which he described as containing "a whole host of anti-police statements".

The Prime Minister described Moat as a "callous murderer", and condemned the expressions of sympathy for him.

"I cannot understand any wave, however small, of public sympathy for this man," stated Cameron. "There should be sympathy for his victims and the havoc he wreaked in that community. There should be no sympathy for him."

A spokesman for the Prime Minister later said that Facebook would be contacted over the matter. In response Facebook issued a statement saying that the page did not breach its terms of service and would not be removed.

"Facebook is a place where people can express their views and discuss things in an open way as they can and do in many other places, and as such we sometimes find people discussing topics others may find distasteful, however that is not a reason in itself to stop a debate from happening."


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I can say that the earthquake wasn't much strong here (Pichilemu), but I could hear some yells outside, and some cars. Diego Grez return fire 23:29, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Er...can you say that any of that was related to the earthquake? Cars passing by and people yelling seems rather normal... C628 (talk) 23:31, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Not in a small and extremely quiet neighborhood. Diego Grez return fire 23:33, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * "Some cars passing by" doesn't seem to correlate to "there was an earthquake" at all. I don't see how they connect. Why does an earthquake cause people to drive in cars?  Either way (talk) 23:34, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, saw the full statement now. But I think your speculation there makes it too much original reporting.  You can only guess as to why there were cars going past, you can not give us facts.  Either way (talk) 23:36, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I reiterate, it's very abnormal to hear car blows and people yelling at 4 AM here. Diego Grez return fire 23:36, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, but you can't prove that it was because of the earthquake. It's only speculation. I could say that they're a bunch of drunk people, and that's just as possible. C628 (talk) 23:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. I understand. Diego Grez return fire 23:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Aftershock?
Is there anything to prove that this is definitely an aftershock and not a new seismic event? Either way (talk) 23:39, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * "Asimismo Barrientos explicó que los movimientos telúricos de las últimas horas son réplicas del megasismo ocurrido el 27 de febrero y que se esperan que puedan seguir por algunos meses todavía." Diego Grez return fire 23:44, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


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Today on Wikinews : BP's new cap on the Gulf of Mexico oil well is lowered into place; crash data suggests driver error in the recent Toyota accidents; a drunken Australian man is surprised that a crocodile bit him after he climbs into its pen at the Broome Crocodile Parkand and, in history, the epicenter of conspiracy theories and alien technology is revealed by the US government to actually exist.

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Today is Wednesday, July 14th, 2010. I'm Dan Harlow and this is Wikinews.

BP: New cap on Gulf of Mexico oil well in place (0:44)
A new sealing cap has been installed on a leaking well in an effort by the BP energy company to contain oil spewing into the Gulf of Mexico. The previous containment cap, which was removed Saturday, had a much looser fit than the new one and allowed oil to escape into the Gulf. It took about three days for the cap to be removed, the site prepared, and the new one to be slowly lowered into position.

The energy company had planned to begin running integrity tests Tuesday to measure the performance of the well under pressure, although these tests have been delayed for further analysis. If the tests show that the well is strong enough, the sealing cap will be closed, shutting in the oil flow. If the well cannot be safely closed from the top, the new cap is designed to funnel almost all the oil to ships above while two relief wells are constructed for a permanent fix. After the old cap was removed, oil flowed freely into the waters of the Gulf until the present cap was installed at about 7:00 PM local time on Monday.

BP has stated that this oil containment system has never been deployed at the current depths, nor has it been tested in the conditions that it will be expected to operate in. During the testing period, which could last anywhere from six to forty-eight hours, all undersea oil containment systems will be temporarily suspended. During this time, BP hopes that no oil will be released into the Gulf from the leaking well; however, this cannot be assured. The company made clear that, even if the tests succeed, this does not mean that oil leakage has permanently ceased.

Doug Suttles, a BP executive, explained that during the test, the valves on the new cap will be slowly shut and the well pressure monitored. Once the valves are closed oil should cease to leak, for the first time since the spill began earlier this year. Suttles said at a Monday briefing that the ideal would be for tests to show high pressure around the seal, indicating that no oil is escaping. He also stated that on the other hand, the pressures could be lower than anticipated, leading to the assumption that the well is damaged and is leaking oil and gas into surrounding rock. If this were to happen, keeping the cap shut would continue to damage the well further. The solution for this scenario is to reopen the valves and funnel most, if not all, of the oil to ships above.

Drilling of the first relief well was suspended until completion of the pressure test. BP senior vice president Kent Wells explained at his Wednesday morning briefing that the first relief well is now 4 feet from the original well and there is a remote possibility that the pressure test could open a path to the relief well. Drilling of the second relief well has stopped at 16,000 feet so as not to interfere with the first well and to keep routing options open in case the first relief well fails. Even if the pressure tests do succeed and the main well is shut, work on the first relief well will continue until it intercepts the main well. When this occurs, mud and cement will be pumped into the well for a permanent seal. Containment operations will continue even if the relief wells are finished to deal with oil already released.

The cap installation is one of the steps of a procedure that could take several more days with the goal of ending the Deepwater Horizon oil spill that began on April 20 when the Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded, killing eleven and marking the beginning of the worst offshore oil spill in United States history.

US hands Iraq high-profile prisoners (4:13)
The United States today handed over 26 Iraqi prisoners, including Tariq Aziz, Saddam Hussein's former deputy prime minister to the Iraqi government.

The prisoners were held at Camp Cropper, the US's detention facility in Iraq. Control of Camp Cropper is scheduled to be transferred to the Iraqi government in a ceremony on Thursday.

Aziz, 74, was sentenced to fifteen years of incarceration by the Iraqi judicial system for the 1992 executions of 42 merchants who profiteered.

According to Deputy Justice Minister Busho Ibrahim, 29 additional prisoners were handed over ten months ago. Ibrahim said, "As of today, we have received 55 former regime officials, the main one is Tariq Aziz, and the others are the oil and culture ministers."

Aziz's defense attorney Badee Izzat Aref told the Associated Press that Aziz feared the Iraqi government would execute him. Aref said Aziz told him that "[t]he Iraqi government will certainly kill me. I fear for my life. I expect I won't live except for days. I'm afraid they'll poison my food or won't give me my medicine to silence me. President Obama is no different from Bush, who has Iraqi blood on his hands."

Ibrahim asked the US Military to maintain custody of about 200 detainees for security reasons, including Sultan Hashim al-Taie. The Iraqi government will take custody of the remaining 1,800 prisoners held at Camp Cropper.

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Crash data suggests driver error in Toyota accidents (6:34)
According to The Wall Street Journal, the U.S. Department of Transportation has analyzed data from the vehicles involved in accidents caused by sudden acceleration, which led to Toyota, the world's top automaker, recalling a large number of automobiles. Early analysis showed that the throttle was wide open and the brakes weren't engaged when the cars crashed, and suggests that the accidents may have been caused by drivers unintentionally flooring the accelerator instead of the brakes. The U.S. Department of Transportation did not confirm this report.

However, Toyota is still under federal investigation for a number of known issues with its cars' acceleration. The accelerator is known to not return to idle after it has been released, and the floor mats are known to trap the accelerator pedal. Toyota is also suspected of having electronic glitches in its computer-controlled throttle systems, but released a statement on Wednesday saying that its investigations found no problems in the throttle systems.

Over the years Toyota has received more than 3000 complaints about sudden acceleration. These may have caused up to 75 fatal crashes that led to 93 deaths. Due to these accidents, Toyota provided the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) with ten event data recorders from cars involved in accidents. However, the NHTSA has only managed to confirm that one of these accidents was caused by malfunctions in the car – an accident in California this August that was caused by the floor mat trapping the gas pedal in a depressed position.

The NHTSA, in conjunction with NASA, has begun a broader study into what caused these accidents, however conclusions aren't expected for months. The ongoing lawsuits against Toyota could result in more than $10 billion of damages.

Woman hospitalized after allegedly stabbing daughter to death at Fort MacArthur, California (8:17)
On Friday, the Los Angeles Police Department arrested and charged a woman with murder, after she reportedly stabbed her ten-year-old daughter to death at the Air Force base Fort MacArthur residential facility in San Pedro, California. The girl's father is a former member of the Navy.

The 49-year-old mother, Bong Sook Chavez, allegedly slit her daughter's wrists and neck. Chavez slit her own wrists after attacking her daughter. In a statement issued on Monday, investigators say Chavez likely stabbed her daughter while she was asleep in bed.

Deputy Chief Pat Gannon told the Los Angeles Times that Chavez has a history of mental health problems. According to Gannon, "The father was able to get the weapon away from her." after the father awoke at around 2:30 a.m. local time to find Chavez attacking her daughter.

The daughter, Quesi Chavez, later died at the University of Southern California's Medical Center as a result of her wounds. As of Monday, the mother remained in the hospital in stable condition, but was scheduled to appear in court yesterday.

Tax breaks promised by Australian Prime Minister as election fast approaches (9:21)
In her first election promise, Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard specifically offered parents tax breaks of up to A$800 to cover the school uniforms of their children.

Gillard aims to pledge $220 million over four years to expand the current tax breaks to cover refunds each worth $390 for primary school uniforms and $779 for high school uniforms, as well as refunds for other school equipment like texts books and computers. Gillard stated "We all know that uniforms can be an expensive part of sending kids to school, but this change, along with the existing refund for textbooks and computers, will help families with that cost."

This comes amongst heavy speculation that a federal election is to be called in the coming days. Education Minister Simon Crean stated that the new proposal is an “important recognition of the cost of school uniforms and it builds on something that we have established in Government but intend extending if we're [re-]elected ...”

As it stands, 1.7 million Australian children are assisted by the current tax breaks; this proposal could extend coverage to an additional million children, however the tax breaks will not be available until after the lodging of the 2012–13 tax returns.

 * Music credit "Independence Day" by DoKashiteru (feat. Colin Mutchler)

Intel posts best ever quarterly results (11:24)
Technology giant Intel released its second quarter results Tuesday, which were the best in the 42 years of the company's existence. The stronger than anticipated results boosted the company's share price, along with those of other technology firms.

Intel's revenues over the quarter up through June 26th were $10.8 billion, with net profits at $2.9 billion. In the same quarter last year, the company sustained a loss of $398 million. Its gross margin rose to 67%, higher than the forecast of 64.1%. The results were better than forecast by either Intel or outside analysts.

The company, which makes processors for around 80 percent of the world's personal computers, is thought to have benefited from an increase in demand for electronics as the world economy moves out of recession.

Intel shares rose by 8% following the results. Shares at rival processor manufacturer AMD also rose by 5.5%, with other technology firms seeing similar gains. The Dow Jones Industrial index closed the day at 10,363, an increase of nearly 147 points.

Man claims 84 percent ownership of Facebook (12:35)
Last month, Paul D. Ceglia filed suit against Facebook, the world's largest social network, claiming that he rightfully owns 84 percent of the company. The lawsuit, filed in the Supreme Court of the State of New York, bases its claims on a 2003 contract between Ceglia and Facebook founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg. The contract reportedly states that Zuckerberg would give Ceglia 50 percent ownership in the company in exchange for designing a website "similar to a live functioning yearbook with the working title of 'The Face Book'," and paying a $1000 fee. Ceglia would also get an extra percentage point every day after January 1, 2004 until the work was completed.

Earlier this month, Judge Thomas Brown issued a temporary restraining order that prevents transfer of Facebook's assets in light of the ongoing lawsuit. According to Victor P. Goldberg, who teaches at Columbia University's Law School, the lawsuit may get tripped up by the statute of limitations, which is six years in New York. PC World says that one problem with Ceglia's claim is that the contract was purportedly signed in 2003, while Zuckerberg didn't register the domain name thefacebook.com until January 2004.

A Facebook spokesman has stated that they believe this current suit is completely frivolous and will fight it vigorously.

This is not the first time Ceglia has appeared in court. In 2009, New York's Attorney General Andrew Cuomo accused Ceglia of fraud. The state claims that Ceglia took more than $200,000 from customers of a wood-pellet fuel company, and failed to deliver any products or refunds; that case is still ongoing.

Drunken man is surprised crocodile bit him (14:19)
A 36 year-old man is recovering from surgery after his leg was seriously injured as a result of a bite from a five metre long crocodile named 'Fatso.' Michal Newman, who was intoxicated, climbed into its pen, claiming he wanted to play with it. Newman is now in Broome Hospital, Western Australia after his skirmish with the crocodile which occurred on Monday night at the Broome Crocodile Park.

In an interview on ABC Radio, Newman explained the events this way : "I thought to myself, 'Well, I will jump the fence and go from behind its tail and pat it and sit on its back, ... and within like one split second before I even slightly touched its back, it already had me by my leg ...".

Experts suggest that as it is winter, the crocodile would be generally inactive at night. In warmer conditions the outcome could have been much worse.

After being grabbed by the crocodile, Newman clung to the fence and yelled at it until it let go, allowing him to scramble over the fence. Newman, nicknamed 'Crocodile Dumb-dee' by the Western Australian media, was earlier removed from a Broome tavern for drunk and disorderly conduct. After the attack however, the AAP news agency says he was allowed back in for one more drink before being taken to the hospital.

Newman says he'll never go near another crocodile again but there's no word on if he'll go near another drink, however.

On this day in history (15:42)

 * Music credit Spacial Harvest

In 2003, The United States Government admitted to the existence of "Area 51", a military base located in the southern portion of Nevada in the western United States, 83 miles north-northwest of downtown Las Vegas. Situated at its center, on the southern shore of Groom Lake, is a large secretive military airfield whose primary purpose is to support development and testing of experimental aircraft and weapons systems.

The intense secrecy surrounding the base, the very existence of which the U.S. government still barely acknowledges, has made it the frequent subject of conspiracy theories and a central component to unidentified flying object (UFO) folklore.

The base is home to the testing of many famous aircraft, especially those designed by the famed Skunk Works, an alias for Lockheed Martin’s Advanced Development Programs which was responsible for the development of the U2 spy plane, the SR-71 Blackbird, the F-117 NightHawk and the F-22 Raptor. A distinguishing characteristic of all these aircraft is their low radar visibility, called stealth technology, which was tested at the Area 51 site.

Soviet spy satellites obtained photographs of the Groom Lake area during the height of the Cold War, and later civilian satellites produced detailed images of the base and its surroundings. These images support only modest conclusions about the base, depicting a nondescript base, long airstrip, hangars and the lake. The base has seven runways including one that now appears to be closed. The closed runway, 14R/32L, is also by far the longest with a total length of approximately 23,300 feet (7,100 m), not including stop-way.

In December 2007, airline pilots noticed that the base had appeared in their aircraft navigation systems' latest Jeppesen database revision with the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) airport identifier code of KXTA and listed as "Homey Airport". The probably inadvertent release of the airport data led to advice by the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association (AOPA) that student pilots should be explicitly warned about KXTA and not to consider it as a way-point or destination for any flight even though it now appears in public navigation databases.

Unlike much of the adjoining Nellis Air Force Base range, the area surrounding the lake is permanently off-limits both to civilian and normal military air traffic. Radar stations protect the area, and unauthorized personnel are quickly expelled. Even military pilots risk disciplinary action if they stray into the exclusionary "box" surrounding Groom's airspace.

The base does not appear on public U.S. government maps; the USGS topographic map for the area only shows the long-disused Groom Mine. A civil aviation chart published by the Nevada Department of Transportation shows a large restricted area, but defines it as part of the Nellis restricted airspace. Although officially declassified, the original film taken by U.S. Corona spy satellite in the 1960s has been altered prior to declassification; in answer to freedom of information queries, the government responds that these exposures appear to have been destroyed.

The base's secretive nature and undoubted connection to classified aircraft research, together with reports of unusual phenomena, have led Area 51 to become a focus of modern UFO and conspiracy theories. Some of the activities mentioned in such theories at Area 51 include the storage, examination, and reverse engineering of crashed alien spacecraft (including material supposedly recovered at Roswell), the study of their occupants (living and dead), and the manufacture of aircraft based on alien technology. Other conspiracy theories state Area 51 has technology leading to the development of a means of weather control, time travel and teleportation technology.

Many of the conspiracy hypotheses concern underground facilities at Groom or at Papoose Lake, which is located 8.5 miles south, and include claims of a transcontinental underground railroad system, a disappearing airstrip (nicknamed the "Cheshire Airstrip", after Lewis Carroll's Cheshire cat) which briefly appears when water is sprayed onto its camouflaged asphalt, and engineering based on alien technology. Publicly available satellite imagery, however, reveals clearly visible landing strips at Groom Dry Lake, but not at Papoose Lake.

Several people have claimed knowledge of events supporting Area 51 conspiracy theories. These have included Bob Lazar, who claimed in 1989 that he had worked at Area 51's S-4 (a facility at Papoose Lake), where he was contracted to work with alien spacecraft that the U.S. government had in its possession.

Similarly, the 1996 documentary Dreamland directed by Bruce Burgess included an interview with a 71 year old mechanical engineer who claimed to be a former employee at Area 51 during the 1950s. His claims included that he had worked on a "flying disc simulator" which had been based on a disc originating from a crashed extraterrestrial craft and was used to train US Pilots. He also claimed to have worked with an extraterrestrial being named "J-Rod" and described as a "telepathic translator".

In 2004, Dan Burisch (pseudonym of Dan Crain) claimed to have worked on cloning alien viruses at Area 51, also alongside the alien named "J-Rod". Burisch's scholarly credentials are the subject of much debate, as he was apparently working as a Las Vegas parole officer in 1989 while also earning a PhD at the State University of New York.

Novels, films, television programs, and other fictional portrayals of Area 51 describe it—or a fictional counterpart—as a haven for extraterrestrials, time travel, and sinister conspiracies, often linking it with the Roswell UFO incident. During the 1996 action film Independence Day, the United States military uses alien technology captured at Roswell to attack the invading alien fleet from Area 51. The "Hangar 51" government warehouse of the Indiana Jones films stores, among other exotic items, the Ark of the Covenant and an alien corpse from Roswell.

The famous science fiction television "The X-Files" made numerous references to Area 51 during its nine seasons, including an episode where the main character of Fox Mulder switches bodies with that of a man in black type figure (with humorous marriage difficulties) who is an operative working on the base.

As outlandish as many of the conspiracy theories are, according to political scientist Michael Barkun, conspiracy theories once limited to fringe audiences have become commonplace in mass media. He argues that this has contributed to conspiracism emerging as a cultural phenomenon in the United States of the late 20th and early 21st centuries, and the possible replacement of democracy by conspiracy as the dominant paradigm of political action in the public mind.

According to anthropologists Todd Sanders and Harry G. West, "evidence suggests that a broad cross section of Americans today…gives credence to at least some conspiracy theories." Belief in conspiracy theories has therefore become a topic of interest for sociologists, psychologists and experts in folklore.

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em dashes
FYI: The em-dash is available as a character if you use the drop-down menu found below the edit window. If you change it from "Templates" to "Symbols" you will find a number of handy characters. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

 * I ordinarily operate with javascript off, so that menu ordinarily isn't there for me (indeed, I wasn't aware of it). The menu's behavior does not, I observe, degrade particularly gracefully without javascript.  Anyway, I'll keep it in mind; thanks.  --Pi zero (talk) 03:52, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Personally I too use html entities like mdash and ndash instead of the menu options. Menus are only available on certain sites (like this one), while entities work nearly everywhere. Gopher65talk 03:59, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

 * I guess this came up again ... I think the given tools should be used and it avoids the ugly syntax in edit mode. --SVTCobra 02:46, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

 * For spaced dashes I don't consider that syntax ugly at all, in fact I consider it mildly superior (since it explicitly spells out what it is). For unspaced dashes (which for me always means en dashes) I usually go to the bother of turning on javascript in order to access the menu; but even with javascript on I would more likely to use the entity names for spaced dashes.  --Pi zero (talk) 03:07, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

quiz
Thankyou for copy-editing the quiz. I am very disturbed by the fact that apparently I wrote the sentence: "Turned of the tap well brushing all teeth". (*shudder*). Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:30, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Editor
Hi, I notice you make a high number of copyedits here, mainly fixing mistakes. Currently these need to be flagged individually. I'd like to suggest you apply for Editor status, which would allow your edits to be auot-sighted so long as the revision before had been sighted. It would also allow you to review articles if you wanted to. You can nominate yourself at Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions and I see no reason why you wouldn't get the tools. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:03, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

 * An interesting suggestion. I'll consider it carefully.  Thanks.  --Pi zero (talk) 18:28, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

You've been granted Editor status
I have promoted you to the Editor class, as I feel you can be trusted to mark revisions of articles as sighted (review). Please take a moment to read: If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask for help on my talk page, and thank you for contributing to Wikinews! Tempodivalse [talk]  18:53, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
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Police confiscate valuables from unlocked cars

 * 1) confiscate is, well, just wrong. It implies the owners of these items will not get them back.
 * 2)  'steal' , for similar reasons, is technically wrong too - but the use of quotes indicates the word's usage is because it is the most convenient to impart the meaning of the action taken.

On the basis of the second point I would dispute your assertion that 'steal' violates NPOV. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:35, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

 * About "confiscate", you're quite right; I too hastily used the word that had been used in the article. I have amended this, both in the article and in its title, to remove.

 * I for one won't object if you wish to change the title back to 'steal' (although the article has already been renamed an awful lot). It would not be appropriate for me to do so, since I renamed it and then tagged it for review by someone else, and DragonFire1024 published it; the appearance would be that I'd renamed it to get it published and then changed it back.  --Pi zero (talk) 22:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Meh, remove is factually accurate - it's just a nit that 'steal' is going to entice more readers. I'd only expect a policeman to argue it was POV. :-P And I really, really can't be bothered with the redirects. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:55, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Review
Hiya, could you please review this article here? Thanks, Rayboy8 (talk) 20:08, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 00:55, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Breaking review
Please can you review Three people arrested in connection with murder of shop owner in West Yorkshire, England? I would consider this to be breaking news. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 16:12, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 17:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually have another high-priority review article that I would like you to take a look at, if possible. Please could you review Up to 270,000 civil servants to go on strike in UK in March? Thanks -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 17:29, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry it doesn't matter now, it's already been reviewed by Microchip08 and it was published. Thanks for your help though! -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 17:37, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

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Hi, can you review my article please? It's been sitting there all day and other than one edit, it hasn't been reviewed. Might this be because no one can read the Spanish sources? I wouldn't really think so considering there are page translators all over the internet. In any case, here is the article, Chile's President-elect's battle with delinquency becomes personal. I would appreciate your feedback. Cheers! --Soy Rebelde (talk) 02:38, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

 * The time I can devote to Wikimedia is fairly limited, and I've already, of late, somewhat overspent my budget for some time to come. I hate not just leaping into action in response to this sort of request, especially from a first-time contributor, but... I honestly doubt that I can afford it.

 * On the particular article, there's no clear evidence of a sluggish-review problem just yet. Eight hours (last I saw) just isn't that unusual, although it would be nice if it were unusual.  I won't tell you not to worry, as  (a) that's a cliche, and  (b) exactly because peer review is such a hefty task, reviewers often tend to take on just those articles they're most comfortable with — and you're right, the Spanish sources are probably off-putting, even with the availability of page translators (and the relatively small gap such translators need to bridge between Spanish and English).  --Pi zero (talk) 03:52, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

 * I think it might be the language barrier. A host of other articles that followed mine have been approved. I'll stick it out and see what happens. Thanks for your feedback. Cheers! --Soy Rebelde (talk) 07:00, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Bronx, New York church destroyed in suspicious blaze
Whoops, sorry about that, and thank you for assuming good faith on my behalf. Best wishes 94.169.115.107 (talk) 13:51, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

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Mind finishing the review of Many people die in car bomb attack in Lahore, Pakistan? It's likely to get stale soon, so would be great if you could. Cheers, Pmlineditor discuss 16:28, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

 * I'm awfully sorry (not that that helps anything), but I can see now it's just not going to be possible for me. It looked as if there would to be some copyvio issues, so, hoping desperately for something safely within my time budget, I decided to try the second-oldest article in the queue (which, in the event, also took longer than I'd hoped).  --Pi zero (talk) 20:15, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

re "Rubber stamp"
It looks alarmingly as if you recently rubber-stamped a bunch of articles, publishing five in less than fifteen minutes. Our reputation — and therefore our future as a project — hinges on the fact that we absolutely will not ever publish an article without a rigorous review, even at the cost that some articles go stale and are ultimately deleted because they weren't peer-reviewed in time. (See Water cooler/policy/archives/2010/February.) --Pi zero (talk) 20:58, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Wholly incorrect assessment. I read and reviewed them earlier. They were up for over 10 hours or so. -- Cirt (talk) 21:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear it. And yes, I was aware of about how long they'd been waiting.  --Pi zero (talk) 22:35, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. -- Cirt (talk) 22:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

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Hi there. I've noticed you making plenty of edits, and was surprised to see you're not an admin yet. Would you be interested in an RfA nomination? Regards, – Juliancolton  | Talk 03:33, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

 * Not at this time, though I'm honored to be asked. Right now, I couldn't afford to spend more time on the project than I already do, so I wouldn't use it enough to balance the inevitably higher risk.  (What my situation will be a few months from now, I have no idea.)  --Pi zero (talk) 04:26, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you're the first person to ever say no to that question, at least as far as I can remember. ;) Cheers, Bawolff ☺☻ 05:53, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. The offer stands so let me know if you ever change your mind. – Juliancolton  | Talk 16:34, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Pi zero (talk) 20:24, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Manatee Palms Youth Services
Hi Pi Zero, thanks for your help and assistance! When you say two independent sources, which source are you referring to that isn't independent? The newspaper or the government site? Sorry if that's an amateur thing to ask. Tkfy7cf (talk) 20:52, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

 * I've answered this on your talk page (notwithstanding my own stated policy about answering here — well, you did ask there, too :-). --Pi zero (talk) 22:23, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

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Dear Pi zero, could you please review the hospital article one more time? An additional source has been added.

AGF
Hi Pi zero, thanks for your thought-out comments at the DR request for this page; I agree with them. Could you look at this addition and see if it helps address the issues you raised? Thanks. Tempodivalse [talk]  13:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

 * It helps. I hope I'll find time to try my hand at some bold edits to the page myself.  I used edits to published articles as an example in my renaming proposal, but I'm also concerned about the dangers in assuming good intentions when considering requests for permissions or accreditation.  It's actually most important to assume good intentions when considering removal of permissions etc.; the ideal is really to not speculate on motives at all, and judge editors entirely on the merits or demerits of their observable actions, but while engaged in removing permissions based on observable behavior, the only practical way to avoid assuming bad intentions is to keep asking yourself how these observable behaviors might possibly have good intentions behind them, though without deeming the actions any less unacceptable for that.  --Pi zero (talk) 17:43, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your recent additions as well, the fleshing out of the article and clarification of where AGI should and shouldn't be used were needed. I'm thinking of proposing this as a guideline instead of just being a wikinews essay soon; what else do you think should be mentioned? You've really provided a fresh look into this problem, and I value your opinion. Tempodivalse [talk]  02:09, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

 * I'm still dissatisfied with the paragraph on not mentioning motives when blocking, but that line of thought isn't going to lead to further expansion of the article. Otherwise, I may have simply exhausted my little supply of ideas that I've been slowly gathering together ever since I came here (actually, longer than that — ever since I first discovered WP:ZEN).  I will certainly think on it, though, and perhaps something more will occur to me after all.  --Pi zero (talk) 03:15, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Matthiasb's de-editor
Hi Pi zero, maybe you could inform Matthias of the current request at WN:FRRFP so he could have a chance to respond? Thanks, Tempodivalse [talk]  16:30, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Oh dear. I'm afraid I'm doing way too many things at once this morning (in the real world as well as on-wiki).  And Microchip beat me to it.  --Pi zero (talk) 16:45, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

New article
sorry for my ignorance, ignorantia non est argumentum, though. i created a new article:

Turkey sets the price to lift the ban on YouTube and Google services

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Concerning my de-publishing
Sorry that I can't give you any information concerning the question you asked about Google News. However I think most important in such a case is to put articles like the article in question back from published to draft status so that it isn't an official published article anymore. Whether the article (and how) it is shown on Google News itself plays the second violine.

Looking up the policy on reviewing you find the regulations under which conditions articles can be published. There is no mention of what to do if an articles erroneous was published not meeting all the criteria stated. I also didn't find any other hints what to do.

Okay, maybe I'm not as familiar with the usances in the EN Wikinews but and that's the thing any editor seeing a similar case should easily find what to do with it.

I guess you know where and whom to adress this issue so create at least some guidance for cases like this.

BTW, I am glad that you clarified your statement, which at least could be understood wrongly and that not only by someone who is not a first language speaker of the English language.

Have a nice day. --Matthiasb (talk) 17:13, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Matthias raises a good point. This has long been consensus, but I don't think we've ever written it down. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:35, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

re International Committee of the Red Cross condemns Gaza blockade
Odd, perhaps check with User:Bawolff ? -- Cirt (talk) 03:49, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

 * /me wonders what this is about. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:41, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

 * The test edit was me checking whether globally editing a file to modify one section causes an edit conflict with locally editing another section. It doesn't.  --Pi zero (talk) 06:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * yeah, edit conflicts are handled in the code after the sections are merged back together. When it comes to edit conflict, a section edit is equivalent to a full page edit where you only changed stuff in one section. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello
Hello, I havn't been here that long (since June 19, 2010), but I have created two articles that have been published. How do you think I would do if I nominate myself for reviewer rights. Tempodivalse and I have been discussing about this subject, and he/she is saying if I create four to five I probably will be able to receive the right. I'm wanting more opinions though. -- Nascar 1996  15:35, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

 * I think you're started down the road, but you're not there yet. Watch what others do to your articles in getting them ready for publication; all that is what you're supposed to be able to do for other people's articles before you're granted the reviewer bit.  Ideally, anyway.  The usual route to the reviewer bit is that you demonstrate that you're ready by writing articles that others find they don't have to do much to before publishing them, and what they do find to do is just picking up a few things that you overlooked (which can happen to anyone), rather than catching any serious gaps in your skill set.  My impression is that you need to better familiarize yourself with the style guide, and brush up on your formal English skills.

 * (No, that isn't the only possible route to the reviewer bit, or at least it wasn't always... but my own unconventional route to the bit took something like a year.) --Pi zero (talk) 23:19, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Quiz
Thanks for the comment on the quiz, this is my first time setting it. I will keep your suggestion in mind for the future. Tyrol5 (talk) 15:39, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

ArbCom
I have nominated you to serve on ArbCom. Please see Arbitration Committee/2010 election and clearly accept or decline to stand. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:24, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

 * In addition, I'd like to ask you to seek adminship as well. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Shoot, I thought you were already an admin. I hope you wouldn't mind me nominating you. — Mike moral  ♪♫  04:23, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Nevermind that, I forgot to check WN:RFA. I'm stupid. — Mike moral  ♪♫  04:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to to commend you for your efforts in standing for the ArbCom. It's pretty clear to me the election has been made unnecessarily competitive, and far too many questions being posed (especially by candidates) which are not relevant to the position but only to the politics of a given candidate. Be aware that your considered responses are being read and appreciated, if that will encourage you. I don't recall any previous election being so energy-sapping, and usually the position is filled without a single effort on the holder's half. Hopefully this is an aberration. -  Amgine | t 17:04, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Thank you. I really do appreciate the moral support.  --Pi zero (talk) 21:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Myself
Since you voted oppose on me,, I have created since edited and created. Are you still against me or nuetral. I am hoping you would support. Thanks anyway. -- Nascar 1996  03:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I figured I'd hear from you, as I'd noticed you were asking around and that Diego had decided he was satisfied. I'm in the midst of looking over your recent articles, to see for myself.  --Pi zero (talk) 03:33, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay-- Nascar 1996  03:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. You will not regret this. :-) -- Nascar 1996  04:18, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello, isn't this spam? -- Nascar 1996  03:54, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I think so. I've included it in a question at the water cooler.  --Pi zero (talk) 04:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Old policy restored
I put the old policy in your userspace, at User:Pi zero/old userbox policy, ref the interest you mentioned. --InfantGorilla (talk) 19:53, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Pi zero (talk) 21:34, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Administrator
Hi Pi Zero, I've made you an admin per your successful request for sysop. Don't hesitate to ask me or another admin if you have questions. I'm sure you'll do well. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  17:43, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks. (I wonder what this button does...)  --Pi zero (talk) 18:31, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

email?
I have a confirmation e-mail (copy of the e-mail I sent you) from the Mediawiki software. -  Amgine | t 00:02, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Quite understandable. You should be aware that, even now, I have no idea what your e-mail address is. Mediawiki software does not forward any information about you to me, just my information to you. -  Amgine | t 00:42, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

election certificate
Benny the mascot (talk) 19:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Brian's RFP
Your numbers are off. I count 10 (including Ohana) in support, 6 in opposition. May not change the outcome, but you probably should update the number on the close/archive notice. Swatjester (talk) 20:02, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * We normally allow those to run for two weeks by the way, in the past Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 21:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Anyway, the support percentage was just 62,5 from the total, and it is needed at least a 75%. It was not going to pass anyway, so why to care. Diego Grez return fire 21:44, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Two weeks? Sigh.  Live and learn.  As Diego notes, it wasn't going to pass.  It had been going nowhere for days, with great wailing and gnashing of teeth.

 * Regarding my numbers: There were two votes from clear non-locals, which I considered mentioning as an aside at closure, but decided not to on the grounds that the notice was already complicated enough to be getting on with.  Those two were split: Swatjester and MZMcBride.  There was OhanaUnited's vote that I listed separately.  The 8–8 votes were
 * Support: Tempodivalse, C628, the wub, Benny the mascot, Fetchcomms, Blurpeace, Adambro, Cspurrier.
 * Oppose: ShakataGaNai, Deigo Grez, Alexandr Dmitri, Amgine, InfantGorilla, DragonFire1024, Thunderhead, Pi zero.
 * --Pi zero (talk) 02:50, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * <nods> My accounting was 10:8, because I tend to be more open in the definition of community. -  Amgine | t 02:53, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

 * As a "non-local", I don't think my vote counts any less. I find it a little offensive, by the way, the "non-local" point. I'm just as affected by this as any other user here, perhaps even more so because the issues raised in this particular RFP affect my work as a Communications Committee member; and I'm one of the people responsible for dealing with any negative fallout aimed at the foundation from Wikinews articles. Just because I don't regularly edit here, doesn't mean that I'm not part of the community. Per Wikinews policy, All participants are equal. If you are a good faith participant to Wikinews, your opinion counts as much as others. It seems abjectly wrong and against the project's policies to discredit those votes, especially in the apparent absence of anything to the contrary. Like I said, even with the votes, it doesn't really change the outcome, but getting the right numbers on there has importance to me. Swatjester (talk) 04:36, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You have some serious nerve there Dan. I quote, "I'm one of the people responsible for dealing with any negative fallout aimed at the foundation from Wikinews articles". What, exactly, do you think I am trying to do here? A very large part of it happens to be avoiding things ending up on your doorstep. Or, are you now implying that the WMF will help defend the contributor(s) and reviewer(s) who publish utter falsehoods or copyright violations. That was never the impression I was given; consequently, I have worked very hard to stop things coming to that. In light of that, the numbers are just trivial accounting. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk 05:14, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * People who have no main space edits are generally not considered participants. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Flood flag
Could you please give me "Flood" flag momentarily? I'm sorting out the requests for permissions. Thank you. Diego Grez return fire 22:26, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You're a pseudo-bot. --Pi zero (talk) 22:44, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, will let you know whenever I'm done. Diego Grez return fire 23:08, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Errr, funny to find this here. You should use flood as-opposed to bot. ;-) --Brian McNeil / talk 01:00, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * flood got renamed to pseudo-bot (it was bot users at one point to). Bawolff ☺☻ 01:15, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

The main page
Hello, you may consider marking the page reviewed. Only admins can do it. Right now the page looks like an IP edited it without anyone reviewing it.  Nascar 1996   02:31, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll hazard a guess —because I've had WTF moments myself over this— that if you saw a "review pending changes" message on the main page, it was actually a "templates/images may need review", or whatever the exact wording of that is. That happens fairly often to the main page, because one or more of the lead templates has a pending edit (Template:Lead article 1, etc.).  Those are only semi-protected.  --Pi zero (talk) 14:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Category:Category
Hello, Pi Zero. I was wondering why you'd removed the parser function when it would greatly help by removing the Category:Internal Wikinews organization from the top Category:Category, which had explicitly stated that the top category alone "should be the only uncategorized category." It's very confusing. :| TelCo NaSp <font face="Showcard Gothic" color="blue">Ve :|  23:58, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Regarding the statement in Category:Category that it should be the only uncategorized category: That statement was added in September 2007, and never got changed after Category:Internal Wikinews organization was added in December 2007.  It's not uncommon, on Wikinews, to come across the odd very-out-of-date statement in the internal documentation; that happens occasionally even on Wikipedia, with its vastly larger labor pool, but here we not only have fewer contributors, but those we do have mostly pour their contribution time into the endless task of turning out quality news stories on a deadline.

 * Regarding Category:Internal Wikinews organization: Key to understanding the why of Wikinews categories is understanding DPLs, which are used to select sets of pages via database-ish queries.  In this case, it appears that Category:Internal Wikinews organization is meant to allow queries to exclude a certain kind of category; and both Category:Internal Wikinews organization and Category:Category are amongst the categories meant to be excluded.  Therefore, both of them belong to Category:Internal Wikinews organization.  I presume that the reason for excluding that category from Category:Category is to avoid introducing a nontrivial loop of subcategories.  --Pi zero (talk) 01:00, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

You're hired!
As a qualified Wikinewsie => Wikipedian translator. :p

Of course linking 'without merit' to meritocracy seems to have been a lost nuance.

Please tell me the entire enWP MoS team aren't going to drop in, if this starts taking more contributor time I'd feel fully justified in blocking 'em all for disruption. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:51, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Drogba Article
Thanks. Sorry about that. <font face="Times New Roman" size="2.0" color="Red">red  - <font face="Times New Roman" size="2.1" color="black">thunder  .  00:53, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Mispublished
Yep. Hadn't thought about that, although with Category:No publish it should no longer show up in that list (DPL error there as well). I will add No publish to future shorts aggregates - and to the preload template if I build that. Do you know if would avoid including the publish template in transclusions? That might avoid the issue in the future. - <span style="font: italic 10pt/12pt cursive;"> Amgine | t 16:10, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm so glad you mentioned that... there's a bit I talked with Bawolff about as an extension to DPL, to allow DPL to manage transclusion of found articles. Maybe I'll start a bugzilla bug...

 * The idea would be: if an article meets the DPL requirements, then and only then would its text be included in the shorts article (with a wikitax prefix or suffix, allowing == == or something similar). This would let us require the article be published, a short, in the current date category, and only the correctly flagged revision would be displayed. - <span style="font: italic 10pt/12pt cursive;"> Amgine | t 16:54, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Whether or not the category No publish includes hink, it will never be published. So, by default it probably should *not* be in category mispublished. I guess the question is "what is the mispublished list about?" - I'm not really sure I know. - <span style="font: italic 10pt/12pt cursive;"> Amgine | t 17:09, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

 * I see what you're referring to. I added the Category:Brief, as that was the old way we did shorts. Clearly this is something which we had a tradition regarding in the past. - <span style="font: italic 10pt/12pt cursive;"> Amgine | t 22:02, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikinews Shorts: September 2, 2010 Thank you so much for your improvements. - <span style="font: italic 10pt/12pt cursive;"> Amgine | t 03:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Fuel tanker aground in Northwest Passage
Do you think this should be given a, or perhaps renamed to "Wikinews Shorts: September 3, 2010/Fuel tanker aground in Northwest Passage"? --Pi zero (talk) 19:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

 * I would say the latter, although I'm not caught up on what has been happening on-wiki since yesterday. - <span style="font: italic 10pt/12pt cursive;"> Amgine | t 19:36, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Pope Benedict
Pope Benedict XVI is starting his UK tour today. I would like to create a category in relation to articles about this tour but I do not know what to call it. Can you please help me come up with a name for the category? -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 16:58, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

 * My impression is that the names of categories about specific events conventionally start with the year. Perhaps either
 * or
 * ? --Pi zero (talk) 03:38, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
 * ? --Pi zero (talk) 03:38, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
 * ? --Pi zero (talk) 03:38, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Your checklist
It's very good, I think. I had no idea you had a major presence in this field.

But while the checklist has specific uses, we do need the fuller style guide to be as succinct as possible, I'd have thought. The full version offers clear opportunities for trimming without removing anything useful. The paragraphs I've already focused on at the talk page do remove information, in a few cases whole sentences, but I do not believe they are useful. But I'm interested to hear opinions on that.

Please note that I have no experience or knowledge of whatever traumas have occurred surrounding the style guide; nor do I want to know, since it seems irrelevant to the task at hand. I am surprised to encounter such entrenched resistance to change, when what I am proposing is mere house-cleaning—a far cry from proposing substantive changes to the guidelines, which is not my intention during this process. Tony1 (talk) 04:57, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks. And yes, the checklist is specific in its uses.  I don't know first hand, myself, about whatever traumas surrounded the style guide, as they would have been before my time here — and from my sense of the pulse of this place, I'd be afraid to guess.  The Style Guide is more than WP:MOS, less than a holy book, and (one suspects) very like a third rail.  When grappling with it, wear heavily insulated gloves (and boots!).

 * Besides the whole Wikipedian thing, there's probably another reason why tinkering with the Style Guide may be resented. Wikinewsies tend to spend as much of their project time as they can on writing articles (to a never-ending stream of deadlines), and they have limited patience for working on the project infrastructure.  They'll do it when they see a real need (which is not uncommon), but even much of that is conducted in slow motion, and when a big distracting discussion finally winds down, one of the last comments as it ends is often something like "Now can we get back to writing articles?"  They're apt to resent being pulled away from the news for infrastructure work that isn't vitally needed.  Further, the community has trouble dealing with a lot of different infrastructural issues at once, and adding the Style Guide as one more is liable to starve some other, perhaps more immediately vital, issue.  All of which may figure in Amgine's repeated query of what vital need there is to make changes to the Style Guide.  You're not, let's face it, going to be turned loose on the Style Guide, and to vet your suggestions is going to pull others away from other things.  The effect is heightened by the fact that, evidently, you aren't helping with those other things that people get pulled away from.  Note that I have a long list of infrastructure issues on my user page — and most of them just sit and wait, because they can't be usefully brought up at once.

 * It seems that many of your difficulties with this are caused by trying to work on the Style Guide without contributing in mainspace. I don't imagine you have time to contribute to Wikinews mainspace; but that is one of the two ways to logically eliminate the cause.  --Pi zero (talk) 07:51, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Blasting the review backlog
<laughing> Yes you did! you reviewed pretty much everything in the backlog single-handedly! - <span style="font: italic 10pt/12pt cursive;"> Amgine | t 16:47, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Uttar Pradesh in News by Country
Hi there,

I saw you reverted my edit which was proberly the right thing to do. I was just wondering is their anyway to get rid on Uttar Pradesh in the News by Country category without losing the infomation. I mean London and the U.S states have their own category's with out being in the "wrong" one. It's just Uttar Pradesh does not belong in the News by Country section.

Many thanks, Chandlerjoeyross (talk) 20:21, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

 * I'm thinking of creating a template that can be used for any geocat smaller than a country. --Pi zero (talk) 00:19, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

 * That would be good. (I made cats for Australian states and territories by substituting from the country template.) --InfantGorilla (talk) 13:38, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I see you created it now. Areacategory looks great! --InfantGorilla (talk) 16:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Magnitude 5.4 earthquake hits Crete, Greece
Can you look at this article please? The issue on the talk page is addressed, but it needs a title improvement before I can review. Any ideas? Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:12, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Replied on article talk page. --Pi zero (talk) 22:47, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanx. That article's rapidly developing into a pain... Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:49, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

 * And again. --Pi zero (talk) 23:19, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

re: double headed eagle thing.
Sorry Pi Zero, I read it through, it looked newsworthy based on what it was saying, I did what I'm supposed to do and published it after checking it over. If I'd noticed it was advert style I wouldn't have touched it. BarkingFish (talk) 21:11, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

ISS article
Sorry about the source, the NASA site updated the article, but apparently the previous content is gone. However, I managed to find it on another site. Bobby122  Contact Me   (C)  00:40, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Verifiability
Good comments about the magicians swap meet article.....I probably won't submit for re-review....but thanks anyway....honestly. Y'know.....I get a'lot of responses re: who should I write for? Some people say, "More than the residents of a neighborhood." You say, "More than a few hundred." OK.....that's cool........hmmmmmm, I think there're about 427 people in the world who would find this meaningful from a human-interest standpoint. Is that enough people? How about 420? What about 417? Buddpaul (talk) 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

 * Relevance isn't purely about head count. We have had some interesting discussions at the water cooler about the nature of newsworthiness as it applies to local news.  ...I've just dug up the ones I was remembering, in the archives from November and December of last year: November#Newsworthiness - how to define it?, December#Local news articles.  --Pi zero (talk) 20:17, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll read those....thank you.Buddpaul (talk) 20:51, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * ....and some mighty fine discussions those were......but I didn't really see that a conclusion or "punch line" was ultimately reached. .....the whole topic is fodder for interesting discussion, but I think a concrete conclusion needs to be reached. Forgive me, I need certainty.Buddpaul (talk) 20:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Pleonasm
I appreciate what you're trying to do on WC/policy, but can I initially ask a couple of things be done. First, break the very substantial, rambling - as you say, sections into subsections. Then, in not more than three short sentences, define each of the corrective/coercive/preventative terms you want used in any discussion.

I'm particularly annoyed at myself over the spat with Tempodivalse that escalated utterly out of control; if I read your comments correctly, you've clearly indentified the need for a different mindset on enWN.

Off-wiki extreme frustration was expressed to me about dancing around Greg and Tony, I'd say tying up 10% of the project's contributor base was indisputably disruption. I stand by the blocks I issued at that time; they were in the project's best interests - not mine, as witnessed by follow-up trolling and calls for my head on a platter.

P.S. When's someone going to implement the "It is x days since brianmc swore on-wiki" bot? ;-) --Brian McNeil / talk 21:34, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Category query
What is up with this? Please explain? Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 22:09, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * latestcat doesn't provide a good set of sister links (it uses Sisterlinks, which itself only links to Commons), so I moved the other sister link boxes up by moving the list down, using the admittedly inelegant means of explicitly coding the DPL. Most categories put wikipedia before commons, or so it's seemed to me; and the Commons link provided by latestcat is phrased as the sole sister link, which looks odd when juxtaposed with other sister links.  I don't know of any other means than what I did to get everything formatted the way it is now.  (Suggestions?  Downside to the way it's now arranged?)

 * What I imagine is really needed, in the intermediate-to-long term, is a general template for lesser-topic categories, akin to Areacategory that's general for geocats smaller than a country. Though what's most needed, in the nearer term, is to get the portals straightened out so they stop encroaching on and messing up the categories.  --Pi zero (talk) 22:31, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you please instead request those changes be made to the templates, instead of doing a manual-work-around? -- Cirt (talk) 22:38, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid you've lost me (but I may only need the right clue to get my bearings). Request which changes to which templates?  --Pi zero (talk) 22:49, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Please engage in discussion, at Template talk:Latestcat
I have started a subsection for discussion, at Template talk:Latestcat. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 02:45, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Just wanted to thank you for going over my article - I will get better at this as time goes on :)

Cholera spreads to Port-au-Prince, five cases reported
Hi, I was wondering if the article is any better now? Bobby122  Contact Me   (C)  19:24, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that the fundamental problem remains: until near the end of the second paragraph, it's a sentence-by-sentence paraphrase.  Presenting the same ideas in the same order is a real problem; instead of looking at the sources to get ideas for how to order things in your article, you should be looking at them to know what orderings to avoid imitating.  One wants to find a logically compelling arrangement that's not too close to any one source.  --Pi zero (talk) 20:27, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I just made another revision and there are now four to be reviewed, so it should be a bit better now. Bobby122   Contact Me   (C)  20:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Mispublished
Thanks for sighting that. I'm not sure why this keeps happening—do you know? Regards,  Wackywace dictaphone 12:55, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I really don't. I had a couple of thoughts on how to treat the symptom, though.  --Pi zero (talk) 13:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Comment
Moved this from your userpage: --Diego Grez return fire 21:48, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

hi how do you make a cite?

 * Each Wikinews article has a "Sources" section, down toward the bottom. Everything that the article says has to be from the sources, which must be reputable.  (That includes original reporting, which is backed up by detailed reporter's notes from a trusted Wikinewsie — advanced stuff, not applicable to this case.)  Keep in mind that a Wikinews article is a snapshot of what was known about the news event at the time; new information can only be added within 24 hours after publication.  --Pi zero (talk) 22:40, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Bomber injures 32 in the city of Istanbul
Sorry about that. I had been reprimanded in the past for having too many sources in my articles, so I tried to cut down on them this time around. I'll add them now. Bkissin (talk) 15:43, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Shall we try again?
Hello, I adjusted on the article, adding two sources for the standings and the teams, and I also linked both types of the standings. The race part should be in the Lap-by-Lap summary.  Nascar <font color="Red">1996   20:20, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Lets say he won the championship by 4 points and he won the race, which gave him 25 points, could the audience assume that you subtract it from the total of 256?  Nascar <font color="Red">1996   03:06, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not involved with Vettel becomes youngest Formula One champion. --Pi zero (talk) 04:57, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I only added these links because they were requested on the collaboration page. It also seemed as if it was causing a bit of confusion about the points. SputniK 79 (talk) 21:59, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Replied at article talk.  --Pi zero (talk) 23:02, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

 * May have been looking for me. I rewrote the article, but didn't add any facts or even open the sources. I just fixed up what was already there. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 07:48, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * My mistake. Sorry about that.  Nascar <font color="Red">1996   11:28, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Reviews
Hah, yeah, I wondered too. Now we know:). I was just reviewing the mine article while waiting for Diego to get back to me about a translation problem in an article I was reviewing for him. BTW, did EzPR sight the article this time? It failed to sight Diego's watertreatment article just now. Gopher65talk 03:31, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Uhhhh, I'm dumb. You didn't pass the article, so of course no sight. Any other errors? Gopher65talk 03:33, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Broken record-player
Not at all, I hear people saying it all the time! Thanks for sighting it :-) <font style="font-family:Impact; font-size:16px;"> wacky wace  18:53, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Sighting
Thanks again. Not sure why it keeps not sighting... <font style="font-family:Impact"> wacky wace  19:48, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

replacing image
Hi Pi zero. I've moved some of my files on Commons. One of the renamed files is "File:Schattenkreuzröhre-in use-lateral view-standing cross.jpg". Stanford physicists print smallest-ever letters 'SU' at subatomic level of 1.5 nanometres tall uses this file, but it is protected so that neither CommonsDelinker nor I can chage the usage. Please be so kind and change the usage for me. The new filename is "File:Crookes tube-in use-lateral view-standing cross prPNr°11.jpg". Thanks --D-Kuru (talk) 14:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 14:31, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikinews reporters' workshops
Absolutely no idea if you follow the WikimediaUK mailing list but, I've just gone fishing there for help running a series of Wikinews reporters' workshops in one of Edinburgh's libraries.

Thoughts?

We desperately need to boost the contributor base, I think the only real way to do so is via boots on the ground. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:16, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Please..
Please block for vandalising two articles, saying "JIMBO WALES NEEDS MONEY, FEED HIM", and changed the entire landscape of the wiki.  Nascar <font color="Red">1996   03:06, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
 * What a moron. --Pi zero (talk) 04:06, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
 * You better believe it. :)  Nascar <font color="Red">1996   04:09, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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<div style="position: absolute; right:2em; top:20em; z-index:10; width:700px; border:none; padding:0.5em 1em 2em -1em; background-color:none; text-align:right; v-align:center;">  May your family have a joyous holiday season and a new year blessed with hope and happiness.  <div style="right: 1em; top: 1em; z-index: 10; width: 96.9%; border: none; padding: 0.75em 1em; background: transparent; text-align: left;"> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!  — fetch · comms  23:02, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the Alexander Lukashenko story
This is what happens when you get people who should be reviewing work, holding you to ransom offwiki to get the review queue cleared. I won't go into details here, since I'm not supposed to mix IRC and Wiki, according to the guidelines. I guess I missed the copyvio and just bummed through them to get them out of the flaming way. BarkingFish (talk) 12:46, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

 * As per your post on my talk, I have named names in the required place, and posted the log of the conversation which lead to me pushing through the queue. I have also per that thread, applied for immediate removal of my reviewers rights on this wiki. What I did was inexcusible, I know that. But the ball is now in the community's court as to what happens to me. BarkingFish (talk) 17:49, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Serious influenza cases double in England in three days
Um, you failed the article, but there's no review template on the talk page, so I don't know what to fix? Regards, <font style="font-family:Impact"> wacky wace  10:58, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Twitter
Hey there, I heard somewhere you run the Wikinews Twitter account—could you change the profile image back to the standard logo? Thanks, <font style="font-family:Impact"> wacky wace  15:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Not I. I know from nothing about Twitter.  --Pi zero (talk) 15:45, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * If I may stick my nose in, I think DragonFire still has Twitter access. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's who it is. I'll drop him a line. Sorry for the confusion :-) <font style="font-family:Impact"> wacky wace  17:44, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

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