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Charles Kennedy rejects leadership allegations

July 30, 2006

Charles Kennedy, who stepped down as leader of the British Liberal Democrats party this January, is planning a fresh campaign for his old job, according to today’s News of the World. But Mr Kennedy, who resigned after admitting he had problems with alcohol, has dismissed such reports.

A senior party source claimed Mr Kennedy is holding weekly meetings with key aids about preparing to contest the Liberal Democrats current leader, Sir Menzies Campbell. It is also claimed Mr Kennedy is “deadly serious” about the challenge.

The source added that if Sir Menzies fails to deliver at this September’s Liberal Democrat conference, the bid could be mounted then, but it is more likely to come after the next General Election, which is expected to take place in 2010.

Mr Kennedy’s key advisors, which apparently includes the head of campaigns Lord Razzell, are said to be planning a tactic to oppose a potentially damaging biography of Mr Kennedy which is due to hit the shelves later this summer.

In a response to the allegations, a statement released on behalf of Mr Kennedy by the Liberal Democrats said: “As everyone knows, long-standing friends and political colleagues remain close to me. We meet frequently and it is simply fanciful to read anything else into such a normal ongoing state of affairs.”

Lord Newby, who was Mr Kennedy’s chief of staff during his reign as Liberal Democrat leader, called the story “ridiculous”.

Sir Menzies, who was chosen by party members to head the party in March, has been criticised over his performance as leader, especially during Prime Minister’s Questions. On Friday, Peter Black, a Liberal Democrat Welsh Assembly member, issued a cutting attack on the 65 year-old, telling him to “shape up”. A recent poll also says that support for the Liberal Democrats has slumped to its lowest point since 2002. The Guardian/ICM survey put the Liberal Democrats at 17%, with the Conservatives on 39% and Labour on 35%.

However, Sir Menzies told BBC Newsnight recently that he “would not be judged by opinion polls after a few months”. He also said: “If I didn’t think I had the energy, the values and the judgement to be the leader of the Liberal Democrats, I wouldn’t have offered myself for the job.”

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Hello there! I'm Mick, an 18 year-old from Derbshire in England. I've just finished my A-levels, and in September I'll be studying Journalism at the Univerity of Central Lancashire in Prestion. I've joined Wikinews as I love writing, and I also want to develop my skills and experience for the future.

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James Bond set at Pinewood Studios destroyed by fire

July 30, 2006

Firefighters have confirmed that the large James Bond sound stage at Pinewood Studios has been destroyed by fire. It is thought eight fire engines were called to the scene near Iver Heath in Buckinghamshire on Sunday morning, where filming for Casino Royale, the latest Bond movie, has been completed.

Jen McVean witnessed the event, and she said the stage was “completely on fire”. The set had been transformed into a replica of the Italian city of Venice, but Mrs McVean, who owns a firm at the studios, said: “Nothing is salvageable and there are many, many fire engines there.” One spokesman said around 40 to 50 firefighters were at the scene.

It is reported that fire damage caused the building’s roof to fall in and firefighters were damping the flames down with specialist equipment. “We do not know the extent of the damage to the 007 stage, although it is believed to be significant,” a spokesman for Pinewood Studios said. “Filming was not taking place. A production had completed filming and its film sets were in the process of being removed,” he added.

No one was reported injured in the incident.

Pinewood, which was created in 1935, was the filming ground for Dr No, the first ever James Bond movie in 1962. It merged with Shepperton Studios in 2001, and high-budget movies like Harry Potter and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory have since been filmed there.

In 1984, a sound stage caught fire, but it reopened in January 1985 and was named the Albert Brocolli sound stage in honour of the man who produced many Bond films. In 1997, Pinewood was hit by fire again after flames broke out in the roof of a sound building where The Avengers was being recorded.


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Talk:ICRC: 28 bodies, 19 children, pulled from rubble after Israeli airstrike, Qana

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have removed the external link, is not directly related to the current incident, and including it raises pov concerns. what is the source for the Pope staatement - the comment is mangled and i need to see the source to fix it. Doldrums 14:23, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

The building was targeted directly according to Reuters
There is much to write, but I think there is better to make a new article about warcrime accusation and other related things. international 16:31, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Building did not collapse due to Israeli strike
"An IDF investigation has found that the building in Qana struck by the Air Force fell around eight hours after being hit by the IDF." Ealturner 19:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Video of Hezbollah shooting rockets from behind three-story residential building. Apparently Israel leafleted Qana about the impending attacks three days ago. The children should have been removed from the village not put together in a prominent building. Ealturner 20:07, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I understand that it is in Israels interest to put everything about this tradgedy that blaim them in doubt. If the structure colapsed afterward is inself not that interesting in article specially if it look as if it contradict the 'flattened the houses' statment. I will remove it as unnecessary info. If things point to staches of explosives in the house it is another thing but it needs to be somewhat substantiateed or proven. The video is not claimed to have anyting with exactly the bombed building, am I right? international 21:16, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

 * reg. the eight hour thing, here's the statement and source.
 * "Eshel said the air force raided the area three times between 12:30 a.m. and 7:30 a.m. yesterday. While the earliest attack probably hit the building, the report of its collapse came about eight hours later. The later two attacks hit targets as much as 500 meters (1,640 feet) from the building, he said."

 * -- Air Force Brigadier General Amir Eshel

POV
Again this is not NPOV, add comments about why Israel targed this building used to launch rockets etc, plus initial IDF investigation shows that it collapsed about eight hours after being hit. The investigation has raised the possiblity that Hizbullah explosives stored in the building were behind the collapse. I'm getting sick if this anti-Israel POV that shows on this site. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 20:03, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree. Ealturner 20:05, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Oh, i am so sorry that WikiNews does report what you don't want to see. Poor believer. Any facts available should be reported, no matter if it makes one or the other party look good. If the IDF behaves like the biggest assholes since a long time, then thats what should be reported. It is not our duty to sugarcoat atrocities done by one party, so that they don't look so bad. It is neither our job to sugarcoat atrocities done by the other party. Thats the job of political propaganda, not Wikinews. The purpose of journalism is to inform the readers as good as possible about any facts - no matter if they are nice or not, no matter if it makes one or the other party look good. As long as all POVs are covered and facts sourced and reliable, its okay. --82.141.51.150 21:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * "Any facts available should be reported" Hell yes thats right, and its a fact that Israel claim that the building used to launch rockets etc. It is also a fact that a initial IDF investigation shows that it collapsed about eight hours after being hit, Isreal have also raised the possiblity that Hizbullah explosives stored in the building were behind the collapse. we need to report that as that is a "[f]act available [that] should be reported".
 * When Hizbullah "behaves like the biggest assholes since a long time" then that's what should be reported Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 21:28, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

 * The claim about explosives must be written clear, not hidden in the text. Feel free to add it propperly as a good part of npoving. And I dont realy like theese accusation of anti-Israel POV in wikinews. Write articles and chose the subject yourself, for exampel about Israeli victims of this conflict if you like. international 21:24, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

This article looks like shit now!
Thanks alot. international 01:07, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * At least its far more NPOV Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 01:10, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe, if you call megafoning IDF-propaganda npoving. But it looks bad. Congratulate. international 01:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well you have the article full of Terrorist groups propaganda Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 01:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * There were a whooping two quotes from Hezbollah as far as I could see... --Jambalaya 01:27, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Can you tell me, and BBC and Reuters, litle more specific what you mean insted of in a vandalistic something bad excuse for povpuching trash a article? international 01:27, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Why was the statement of Annan removed? Is the secretary-general of the UN now considered to be part of "terrorist"-propaganda? Why were so many reactions from around the world removed - are they now all terrorists? This stinks for right-wing censorship. If you want to make the article balanced, then *add* POVs from the relevant parties, instead of removing valid and sourced information. This event was condemned by almost the entire world - except of israel and the US - and blame was put on israel by those countries. Regardless of who is really to blame, it is destructive and abusive to skew the reactions from the world, so that it looks like as if the US and Israel would account for 50% of the world. If the "world" is wrong, then prove and add it, instead of censoring reactions. --82.141.50.34 10:26, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Where did this go? And do anybody see this contradictfull to other IDF statement?
A senior air force commander said Israel had dropped a bomb on the building in Qana on the assumption it was sheltering Hizbollah crews and was unaware civilians were there. The commander said "Had we known there were that many civilians inside, especially woman and children, we certainly would not have attacked it,"

international 02:00, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

 * It's back :-) --Jambalaya 02:04, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Propaganda? Who started it all? Who's providing who with weapons?
I had to chuckle reading the edit above about "terrorist groups propaganda". Just today I must have heard and read about 20 references by different western media sources referring to this one-sided massacre(now about 20-1 civilian body count in Israel's favour). They consistently feel compelled to repeat over and over again that this all started in July when Israeli soldiers were attacked and kidnapped. That's a blatant lie. Then there is the comments about Hezbollah weapons coming from Iran while Israel's planes,helicopters and bombs come from the USA with more being rushed across the atlantic as we speak. The Nazi propaganda guy said "tell a lie often enough and people will believe it"...boy was he right...and it's USAGOV and IsraelGOV who are telling all the provable lies; and killing 95% of all the little children being killed in these 1 sided bully wars. Neutralizer 02:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Why have CNN and FoxNews sources been removed?
Why have you removed CNN and FoxNews sources, from head of the sources, and why have you put the cynical question back at the end of the report. "What do you expect Israel to say"? Well the answer is as you see: Israel is investigating. Israel has stopped the bombing.

Anyone with eyes in his head can see that there is no fire or smoke during the video of ambulances reaching the site. And rather than sleeping in a shelter the witnesses say they slept under the first floor. Why did you remove this clear evidence of well established news sources from the article?

Why did you remove the plea for a cease fire turn-down from Hizbolla (BTW even WikiPedia agree that it should be pronounced Hizbulla...) where it is clearly stated in the CNN source, by a woman from the village who is not suspected of being pro Israeli?

Do you not know that this is all a power showdown of the Hizbulla? Preparing for a ground war with Israel, filling the south with explosives, and pushing away the possiblity of rehabilitizing Lebanon. What is with you people, its simple reading, almost as simple as 1+1=2: Here's the link (Pro Hizbulla, not the Israeli view): http://www.cggl.org/scripts/document.asp?id=46225

 * Why were FoxNews-Sources removed - LOL? Your other selectively choosen and therefore misleading arguments are not even worth to be debunked. Dream on about the global phantom-threat of witche... err, i mean commies.... no, thats wrong.... terrorists, yes thats right. --82.141.50.34 11:37, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Lebanese reaction first
The disaster happend in Lebanon. The responsible for the bombing should not have their pov presented before those who got bombed. We should not bringing Israels excuse for this mess before Lebanons condemnation. international 05:32, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * NO! Its the Lebanese through there Terror group who stated this; they need to stop their excuses Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 07:03, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Interesting - so according to you, the lebanese (not Hezbollah) now have no voice anymore, because they're all barba... err, terrorists? Are you sure that NPOV is your goal? How about calling Israel terrorists, because of gross violations of almost every sentence in the geneva conventions? And since the US is delivering weapons to them, maybe they as well should have no voice at all, because they could be considered "sponsors of terrorism". Now, you see, every party in the war - lebanon, hezbollah, israel and the US, have no voice anymore, because they're all terrorists. Their POV should be completely obmitted from WikiNews, right? Bullshit. --82.141.50.34 11:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * And also the reported time for the first bombing, and mention of the reported second woulf be a good idea. international 05:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi, Brian. What we must remember is that USAGOV/UKGOV were quite complimentary of Lebanon's embrace of democracy over the past year and the west also was quite insistent that Syria remove it's presence. Now,in Iraq, Bush/Blair etc. keep saying "democracy takes time"..it's been 3 years in Iraq and far less in Lebanon(since Syria left). We can all have different povs about this event but it is not worthy of your esteemed reputation,imo, for you to now see Hezbollah as being under the control of the elected Lebanese government. This whole notion that the Lebanese gov. is responsible for Hezbollah's actions is like saying the UK government was responsible for the bombings of the IRA (the IRA had elected MPs in the British parliament at that time); both theories are absurd in the extreme and only useful as desperate attempted justification for an unjustifiable military attack (the aerial attack of a country with no air force nor air defences). You are entitled to believe Hezbollah is working for the Lebanese government if you wish to believe that, but I urge you to reconsider that opinion. Neutralizer 12:47, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Fair Journalism
a. Good journalism brings both POV at opening statement. b. Lebanese online is full of anti Hizbulla. c. You cannot use the newspaper to fight the war. The news should show both POV especially if these are substantiated by proof. It should clearly state what is NOT fact.

a reminder
to all editors that (Wikinews' resident busybody), Doldrums 17:02, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) this is a place to discuss the article. the discussion would do well to focus on what needs to be done to improve the article.
 * 2) it would be good to... ahem, respect each other's views and critique each others' edits, if need be.
 * yes, I'm guilty of far too much side talk. Doldrums is absolutely correct and I will try to stop my opinionizing on article talk pages. Neutralizer 20:13, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Israeli claims
Some Israeli claims that contradict statments from witnesses is given to much space. This make the whole article pov in favour of the Israeli state. I whould advice to limit theese statements as it can be seen as psy-ops or blatant lies to whitewash the Israeli attack. international 20:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC) source
 * At least those Israeli claims are seperated from the rest and clearly marked. Even if Israel claims that the world is flat, we should still write about it. As long as we clearly marks that this is what THEY believe. --Jambalaya 22:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of Israeli claims, I think they said that Qana villagers had been warned of the coming attack. I scan the current version, and see it does not mention it. Why not?

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L30390156.htm

Tomos 23:49, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Probably because we occupied our minds with this "structurcollapsclaim" its been edited away. Its been mentioned in articles early versions. international 12:22, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

ICRC Press release
Added to source and changed misleading title. Ealturner 12:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

ICRC: 28 bodies, 19 children, pulled from rubble after Israeli airstrike, Qana Ealturner 12:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

 * reads as if 28 bodies and 19 children were pulled from the rubble. not clear that the children too, are dead. Doldrums 13:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

 * "28 bodies from the rubble, 19 of whom are children". A specific term i.e. "adults" or "terrorists" was not used so "children" must be a subset of "bodies". If you want to change "28 bodies" to "28 dead" I won't oppose that. Ealturner 16:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * am speaking of the title, which doesnt have the "among whom". Doldrums 16:19, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * "Among whom" was deliberately not included in the title to make it shorter. If you think it needs that phrase to get the meaning across add it in. Ealturner 22:44, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

late addition
pls do not add substantial content to a published article. wikinews articles are not works in progress and only report information as known prior to date of publication. the statement about rescue efforts being halted is surely not from July 20th. additionaly, the HRW report is not listed in sources and so info about it cannot be added to the article. see Content guide and the links to What Wikinews is and What Wikinews is not therein for policies and guidelines regarding this. u can start a new article to report further developments in this incident. Doldrums 04:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I stand corrected, thanks. I think an in depth page is necessary to report the corrected death toll in this terrible incident. Moreover, the Israeli investigation has been published today and is also newsworthy. Should do it myself, but I'm heading for work now. Have a nice day. 88.152.56.209 04:44, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

16 children, not 19
As per the Human Rights Watch, can we please move this article so it says 16, not 19 children? --71.125.180.71 23:19, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I just registered an account (didn't realize it was different than wikipedia) and figured out how to change it myself. --Aishel 23:25, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Dont edit more in this article, write new ones. About number of dead bodys, there are people missing. international 23:33, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


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Welcome
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User:Neutralizer/Opinions

Notice
The ideas an opinions expressed below, do not represent the views of Wikinews, but those of User:Neutralizer. If you feel that you may be offended by one's personal beliefs, please, do NOT read on.

historical facts
Occam's razor thinking encouraged. No assumptions opens up clarity of deductive reasoning. Maybe the war in Iraq has gone exactly the way the Bush regime wanted and expected it to, for example. Ever consider that?

Here are some puzzle pieces; Note; excerpt below was part of pedia's Skull and Bones article (relating to S&B's stated goals for the USA's public educational system) for years until a sanitizing team removed it about a month ago. ''"In the Prussian strategy, the whole population is categorized into three "educational castes" to formulate future easier elite control of the population.
 * Some people/govs. make money and expand territorial control from wars.
 * Takes 2 to make a war and scare peoples into accepting classism or fascism; when USSR was folding in the 80s, an "evil" replacement was needed..an "on-deck evil empire" so to speak..if global war and fear mongering were to continue.
 * Bin laden's mujadeen were financed by Saudis and Bush Sr.'s team in the 80s (15 of the hijackers were Saudi)- exactly the 2 groups of people to most benefit from high oil profits(Bush family from their oil holdings as well as mammoth political contributions from Exxon etc.)
 * oil was $21. per barrel sep.10,2001; it's $72. a barrel today.
 * Scotland Yard's motto is; "To solve a major crime, follow the money". Much of the money made from defense spending and high oil prices has gone directly to the 2 entities which fertilized the jihadists throughout the 80s and 90s; the House of Saud and the House of Bush.
 * Saddam was financed by USAGOV in the 80s and lured by Bush Sr. into the Kuwait attack (then double crossed..double cross being part of S&B's logo and modus operandi)
 * In 1942 US illiteracy rate was 3%; today it's 18%

1. those who will be policy makers, who are taught to think (0.5%),

2. those who will be engineers, lawyers, doctors--who are taught to partially think, only for accreditation in specialized topics (5.5%), and

3. the children of the masses, who are to be taught how to follow orders (94%)."''

 * Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are not democracies, Lebanon and Palestine are democracies. USAGOV rushed to defend Kuwait and Saudi Arabia; nothing to help Lebanon or Palestine.
 * Saudi Arabia is the main sponsor of Wahhabism religion
 * Taliban's afghanistan produced almost no opium in 2001; production is up 1,000%+ since the US led coalition took over. CIA says opium is the primary funding for al-queda; puppet enemies need lots of money to maintain a credible global threat. Stupid western analysts never ask "if the Taliban could stop it,why can't the US led coalition?"
 * 12 year Vietnam War was sold on the fear of "red" china and the "domino theory". China's still red and 50,000 americans were sacrificed
 * Soon more americans will have been killed in Iraq than on 9/11
 * Killing lots of muslim civilians breeds/ensures more enemies for future battles
 * Civil war was not about freeing slaves; Lincoln only freed the ones in the southern sates a year after the war and never freed the ones in the neutral and northern states...civil war was about increased federal powers and less states' rights
 * USAGOV has always been controlled by classist and sadistic cult members. Same guys from the same cult engineer the wars and make money from the wars;
 * The USA is responding to the aging and already deposed sheikdoms of the Middle East while they are in the midst of an emerging population of cultural revolution in an stategic region of global energy supply. The offering from the USA is democracy, to a cultural and religious heritage that eschews westernism. Symbolically, if Israel is gone, perhaps the biggest wound will be healed. -Edbrown05 05:57, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

NPOV sources to counteractWesternGovs/Israeli pov

 * "Who started it?"
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 * arabic articles
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Repititious brutality thrives upon collective amnesia
Human Rights Watch September 1997 Vol. 9, No. 8(E)

"SUMMARY; In this report, Human Rights Watch examines the activities of Israeli military forces and Lebanese guerrillas during the escalation of military activities that raged in Lebanon and parts of northern Israel from April 11 to 27, 1996 -- code-named "Operation Grapes of Wrath" by Israel. Israeli pilots carried out 600 air raids with fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters, and artillery units fired some 25,000 shells into Lebanese territory. Some 154 civilians were killed in Lebanon, and another 351 injured. The guerrillas fired 639 Katyusha rockets into Israel. There were no Israeli civilian deaths, although three Israeli women sustained serious injuries."

Amnesty International's report

For the past 20 years Israel kills about 10 muslim civilians for every 1 Israeli civilian killed. The 10-1 ratio is holding up in the 2006 bloodbath as well.

Israel has killed over 700 Palestinian children just in the new millenium

USAGOV has such a high civilian body count in its wars that, by comparison, Israel seems like a saint. USAGOV killed over 500,000 vietnamese civilians and already tens of thousands of Iraqi and Afghan civilians...and with its demonic overuse of depleted uranium weaponry and land mines; USAGOV keeps killing the children even after the wars are over. Neutralizer 22:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Just the facts;"Who started it?"
Are Hezbaollah that much better at avoiding killing civilians ? They only killed 51% civilians(and 49% enemies) while Israel is at 90% civilians (and only 1% enemies).

I already knew Israel traditionally kills about 10 times as many civilians each year as Hamas and Hezbaollah do. I also imagine most westerners know this to be a fact. The graphic shows the civilian deaths in this "war" to also be about 10-1 in favour of the Israeli attacks which I doubt is surprising to many of us. What does surprise me is the stupidity of people to either accept or try to get others to accept the theory that there is some sort of moral equivalency in these results. I doubt that if someone kidnapped a cousin of mine that I could use that in court as justification for murdering 10 distant relatives of the guy who kidnapped my cousin. Anyone who uses their brain would be laughing at Israel's ,UK's and USA's daily changing excuses for bombing and killing civilians("Self-defence";"spreading democracy";"wmds";"searching for our soldiers") unless they've become like the German citizens living near Auschwitz in 1940 watching the parades of innocents going to daily slaughter but still in denial as to what their fascist leaders are actually doing to children and other innocents. Then they wouldn't be laughing; just peeking out their windows watching their soldiers leading innocent children and old people to the house of horrors (1940) or watching western news footage of dropping missles on the heads of children and old people(2006).

Western media people also seem to be quite stupid or facilitating in their apparent malleability in accepting "spin" as to who starts these wars; e.g. in Israeli soldier taken captive we have this; "....have claimed responsibility for the raid and Gilad Shalit's subsequent capture, although they have not confirmed that they are holding him themselves. Hamas claimed that the operation was in response to the recent deaths of civilians and the targeted killings of two militant leaders." which is supported by thisbut ever since then all our Wikinews articles state as fact that Israel was attacked first. I still remember the Palestinian kids blown up on the beach, don't you?

"You hit me first!" It's not a NPOV publication's place to report as fact who hit who first in an ongoing bitter fight (especially when there is a dispute about who started this altercation) and when we do we are no longer NPOV. Here are a few of our published assertions that Israel got hit first.

 * The crisis began when Hezbollah militants made an incursion into Israel, capturing two soldiers patrolling the northern border.

 * The deaths occurred on the fifth day of Israel's military attacks in Lebannon, instigated by the capture of 2 Israeli soldiers and killing of 8 others by the Shiite Hezbollah in a cross-border attack.

 * Israel is continuing its offensive in the Gaza strip against Hamas after a soldier named Gilad Shalit was kidnapped in a raid, June 2006.

If Hezbaollah had blown up as many children as Israel or the US have in the middle east in the past few years I think the coverage would look quite different. If Hezbaollah had blown up 4 American children vacationing in Israel a few days ago and then blamed it on Israel, I think the coverage would be quite different.

Bottom line..either most western media people are

 * 1;incredibly stupid or
 * 2;incredibly biased in their reporting

 * I think it's the latter. Neutralizer 17:55, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Wikinews, where we say "fuck it!" to traditional biased reporting. Or at least try our best. Wikinews being as young as it is means less contributors and most Western Hemisphere contributors, which may cause systemic bias. But once we're a bit older than 2 years old, we'll get more contributors. —     18:46, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Taboo subject matter
At some point western media may wish to become more credible and part of that process will be to include in news articles taboo subject matter such as ;
 * Israel has nuclear weapons
 * USAGOV no longer fits the definition of a democracy
 * Many USAGOV leaders are and were members of occult societies (just look at the back of a 1 dollar bill)
 * Bush fortune was made by financing and supplying Hitler's rise to power
 * Opium funds terrorists; Afghan production is up 1,000% since western invasion.
 * Rich and powerful send the poor to fight and die.
 * USAGOV has killed more civilians and crippled more children over the past 50 years than any other country in the world.
 * USAGOV economy is collapsing under statistically unmanageable debt; only 2 ways out; 1;bankruptcy (allowing dollar to become worthless) or 2; crime (stealing assets of other countries)
 * For profit News media's goal is NOT to be credible, it is to be PROFITABLE. MyName 19:09, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * That’s why I read Wikinews ;)
 * Yes, that is exactly right.
 * Actually, I think people who read this bit should read The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Just a remarque, i don't think this subjects are taboo in France and into many others Westerns countries (yes, France is still a Western country, no ? (smile)). So please don't generalize very english specific concern (problem). This is why some actions from GB or US are not very understood in many country.
 * Want another taboo subjet, for a France centric POV of course ! (smile) ? During WWII, US government made a deal with Cosa Nosta mafia in order to control spy from Nazi and Italy. 'til now, mafia is in control New-Yord City Port. I watch a TV "report" on the subject. Is this considered as a false info, or a well known fact into english speaking countries ?
 * May be you know thinks about France i don't know ! Jacques Divol
 * I know the Auguste Rodan museum in Paris is fantastic; have you been? Neutralizer 03:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * see ! no i don't visit this museum ... ;) Jacques Divol 09:42, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Please go as soon as possible (closed Mondays I think); it is sculpture like no other; Musée Rodin 79 Rue de Varenne 75007 ParisTelephone: 01 44 18 61 10

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USAGOV;
Occam's razor thinking encouraged. No assumptions opens up clarity of deductive reasoning.

USAGOV is;

*AT THE WORST;SATANIC!
 * AT THE LEAST;OCCULT,

Being an american, I used to be in denial about it...but now;

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

Skull and Bones

William Huntington Russell, the world's opium kingpin, (note; ever since Russell's reign opium profits have been used by the boners as secret source financings for their organized crime buddies and geopolitical tricks/wars), was recruited while in Germany by The Bavarian Illuminati to start a branch in the USA in 1832. At that time there was a strong push to outlaw secret societies (see Anti-Masonic Party) so Russell set it up as a university fraternity which allowed secrecy under the guise of harmlessness. The multi-generational objective of the Illuminati and Skull and Bones has always been to establish centralized global control within the hands of the super elite (the French Revolution scared the shit out of the aristocracy) and to engineer wars and other geopolitical events (9/11 and Iraq invasion) which would move the world's peoples toward this "new world order". The basic platform for the new Classism would be for sham democracies (like we have in America) to be established worldwide and then slowly integrated into one global sham democracy (wars and indebtedness being used to sheepize the public). Many Boners have chosen education management as a career path as the dumbing down of the voters is an important ingredient in achieving the objective. Many others have chosen corrupt financial markets as their vehicle for redistributing wealth from working people to the elite. Here are just a few Boners who have been instrumental in transforming America into a classist non-democracy of 2 identical political parties where secrecy from the people National Security Act of 1947 and foreign policy (global policeman) not asked for, wanted, nor determined (see Council on Foreign Relations) by the american people are the order of the day in 2006; so much so that our USA GOV no longer gives a flyin'f__k what american citizens think about anything; whether it be illegal immigrant workers, outsourcing american jobs, health care or wars in Iraq.

Prescott Bush(WW2 engineer),George Herbert Walker(WW2 engineer),Averill Harriman(WW2 and Vietnam War engineer)Henry Luce(Time Life)George Herbert Walker, Jr.(WW2 engineer)George Herbert Walker Bush(Planted,fertilized puppet enemies binLaden and Saddam, engineered Gulf War and left it open-ended),George W. Bush(engineering WW3 and getting opium production going again in Afghanistan)William Bundy(Vietnam War engineer)McGeorge Bundy(Vietnam War engineer)Henry L. Stimson(Nuclear arms race promoter and Korean war engineer; decided to drop 2 A bombs on Japan civilians in quick succession while protecting the wealth and freedom of Illuminati nazis like Alfried Krupp after WW2 )Robert A. Lovett(promoted Nuclear arms race, left Korean War open-ended; also was the chief architect of the National Security Act and CIA)Percy Rockefeller,John Rockefeller Prentice, & William H. Donaldson (wealth transfer from working people to the elite) John F. Kerry(I still think he will be the WW3 "closer" (president elect); but if not, he already has contributed as a Shill to keep the war train going in 2004; he also protected Bush Sr. from prosecution in the Iran Contra affair.

In the Capitalist strategy
the whole population is categorized into three "educational castes" to formulate future easier elite control of the population.

1. those who will be policy makers, who are taught to think (0.5%),

2. those who will be engineers, lawyers, doctors--who are taught to partially think, only for accreditation in specialized topics (5.5%), and

3. the children of the masses, who are to be taught how to follow orders (94%).

The Capitalist educational system in the United States was idealized as a strategic tool to demote political and intellectual equality and to reformulate an aristocratic society in novel formal institutions. It could even be called a "de-educational" model, because it promotes a society that is endemically uneducated and trained mostly to follow someone else's centralized instructions thoughtlessly.

How we got where we are

 * Step 1; 1980's; George Bush Sr.(Skull and Bones 1948)'s cia and foreign policy group created,financed,supported puppet bin Laden's mujadeen while the House of Saud financed fundamental Wahabi schools throughout the world.
 * Step 2; 1990's Puppet Saddam was encouraged to invade Kuwait giving the House of Saud a credible reason to ask the Bush gang to set up military bases on Saudi holy land.
 * Step 3; Leave Saddam in power to justify leaving the US military all over Saudi holy land.
 * Step 4; Puppet Islamofascist bin Laden and other bred islamofascists reacted predicably to the "pollution" of their holy land by then targeting the USA
 * Step 5; 2000's Let 9/11 happen
 * Step 6; George W. (Skull and Bones 1968)'s neo-cons react to 9/11 by castrating civil rights, passing fascist laws and manufacturing excuses for invasions to expand territorial control and breed more puppet enemies.\

Results thus far; US has expanded its territorial control to include Afghanistan and Iraq. US public has accepted loss of civil rights including freedoms of speech, press, association and, most of all, assembly. Extreme wealth redistribution from the middle and lower classes to those of the upper class whose companies profit from high priced oil,wars and security services. Incredibly, within just 17 years of the collapse of the last puppet global "evil empire" and "global war on communism" a new global "evil threat" has been manufactured out of a bunch of rag-tag camel herders into a "global war on terrorism". Call the skull and bones cultsters anything you like; but never call them stupid.

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Cassini photographs possible lakes on Saturn's moon, Titan

July 30, 2006 Cassini, a European and United States space probe, has taken pictures of what appear to be lakes on the surface of Saturn's moon, Titan. If the findings are confirmed, then Titan will be the only other planetary mass, other than Earth, to have liquid lakes on their surfaces. Some of the 'lakes' also contain channels that lead to and from them. The lakes are believed to have been formed by rainfall of liquid methane or ethane.

Some radar images of the lakes and channels leading to and from them, show areas of black, which indicate that there is no image to display and scientists say that it could mean the surface of the 'lakes' are very smooth and flat.

"What we see is darker than anything we've ever seen elsewhere on Titan. It was almost as though someone laid a bull's-eye around the whole north pole of Titan, and Cassini sees these regions of lakes just like those we see on Earth," said U.S. Geological Survey Cassini interdisciplinary scientist, Larry Soderblom.

So far scientists have found at least 12 lakes which range between 6 and 62 miles wide.

"It was a real potpourri," said University of Arizona Cassini scientist, Jonathan Lunine.

"We've always believed Titan's methane had to be maintained by liquid lakes or extensive underground 'methanofers,' the methane equivalent of aquifers. We can't see methanofers but we can now say we've seen lakes ," added Lunine.


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Israel strike kills more than 50 civilians in Qana
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In the deadliest single incident in the ongoing Israel-Hezbollah conflict, an Israeli airstrike demolished a four story building in the village of Qana in southern Lebanon, and according to the Red Cross, at least 56 displaced civilians, about 37 of them children, who were sheltering there, were killed.

Australian PM mobbed by anti-Israel protesters
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Australian Prime Minister John Howard was mobbed by protesters in Perth, Western Australia on Saturday, angry at the stance he has taken on the recent conflicts in the Middle East.

Gay teens assaulted and fined by police in Romania
Romania

Two gay teens were fined and assaulted by police on 27 July at around 23:30 after cuddling, holding hands and kissing in a public park in Bucharest, Romania.

Charles Kennedy rejects leadership allegations
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Charles Kennedy, who stepped down as leader of the British Liberal Democrats party this January, is planning a fresh campaign for his old job, according to today’s News of the World. But Mr Kennedy, who resigned after admitting he had problems with alcohol, has dismissed such reports.

Cassini photographs possible lakes on Saturn's moon, Titan
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Cassini, an European and United States space probe, has taken pictures of what appear to be lakes on the surface of Saturn's moon, Titan. If the findings are confirmed, then Titan will be the only other planetary mass, other than Earth, to have liquid lakes on their surfaces.

James Bond set at Pinewood Studios destroyed by fire
movies

It has been confirmed by firefighters that the James Bond stage at Pinewood Studios has been destroyed by fire.

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U.S. says Israel has agreed to suspend air strikes for 48 hours after deadly strike on Qana

July 31, 2006

After one of its raids killed at least 56 civilians, Israel agreed on Monday to suspend its aerial activities in south Lebanon for 48 hours. The announcement came after extended meetings between Condoleezza Rice, the US secretary of state, and Ehud Olmert, the Israeli prime minister.

Adam Ereli, a US state department spokesman in Jerusalem, said "Israel has agreed to a 48-hour suspension of aerial activity in south Lebanon to investigate today's tragic incident in Qana,"

The aerial ceasefire began after midnight on Sunday but fighting on the ground continues as Israeli forces aim to create a 'security zone' inside Lebanon along the Israeli border. Lebanon has no air force nor air defences.

Gadi Eisenkaut, army operations chief General, said "By Wednesday we are going to establish a two-kilometer (one-mile) wide 'security zone' in which there will be no infrastructure or sign of Hezbollah's presence"


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Talk:U.S. says Israel has agreed to suspend air strikes for 48 hours after deadly strike on Qana

'Israel suspends air strikes after Qana raid tragedy' Whats pov whith this title ? international 00:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I tried a less diplomatic headline without using the loaded word "tragedy". --Jambalaya 01:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Tragedy it is...but it is very very very loaded as it is an ongoing investigation...IDF does claim rockets came from that area...and either way it is a tragedy using the word tragedy when it could have been a military strike that was an attack on a military installation...it wouldn't fit. I clearly see the writer with a POV, shameful.--Flyintothesky 09:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Did Israel confirm the announcement?
Do we have a statement from an Israeli official confirming this? How does this announcement square with Haaretz:
 * Even though the prime minister announced that Israel will continue its attacks against Hezbollah, even after the sad incident at Qana, and will not accept the demand for an immediate, unconditional cease-fire - he did accede to the American request to limit air-force operations in the area of Beirut.

Limiting air-force operations over Beirut is very different from suspending air strikes in general. Unless we can get a quote from an Israeli offcial the language in the article should reflect more clearly that the base for the news is only an unconfirmed claim by an american diplomat.--vonbergm 16:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

 * "July 31: Prime Minister's Office: The IDF will restrict air strikes over Lebanon for up to 48 hours, until the army probe into the Qana tragedy is completed. Israel will allow, in coordination with the UN, safe passage for the residents of south Lebanon wishing to evacuate the area within 24 hours, and will also operate ground and sea corridors for humanitarian aid."

 * -- (official statement)

 * "Israel has agreed to a 48-hour suspension of aerial activity in South Lebanon while it investigates today’s tragic incident in Qana. Israel has, of course, reserved the right to take action against targets preparing attacks against it.

During this time, Israel will coordinate with the UN to allow a 24-hour period of safe passage for all residents of South Lebanon who wish to leave. Humanitarian convoys remain in effect. We expect that Israel will implement these decisions so as to significantly speed and improve the flow of humanitarian aid.The United States welcomes this decision and hopes that it will help to relieve the suffering of the children and families of Southern Lebanon."

 * -- (US state dept.)
 * Doldrums 16:54, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Doldrums, the second one is the statement by US officials, the first one does not support the claim that air attacks are "suspended". The difference between "restricted" and "suspended" is quite big, in particular if you are on the receiving end. The quotes you supplied seem to further support the discrepancy between what the US diplomates are saying and what the Israeli government is saying. I still believe the article should pay more attention to this. --vonbergm 21:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * NOt anymore...they resumed airstrikes when Hezbollah attacked a line of Tanks with a missile. Jason Safoutin 22:03, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


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New Zealand's new small change

July 31, 2006 Today New Zealand's new coins have been released. The new coins replace the 10, 20 and 50 cent coins, while the 5-cent coin is being removed from circulation for good.

The new coins retain the same design as before but the 10-cent coin is now copper coloured. All coins except the 10-cent are now made from plated steel and nickel, making them lighter and cheaper to produce. The 10-cent coin is made from plated steel and copper.

Brian Lang, Reserve Bank of New Zealand Currency Manager, said: "The introduction of smaller, lighter coins is one of New Zealand's biggest currency changes since the introduction of decimal currency on 10 July 1967."

The Reserve Bank reports that they have issued 1,037 million coins since the introduction of decimal currency.

However, people can still use their old change between now and 1 November 2006, when the old coins will cease being legal tender.

A survey conducted by ACNielsen, on behalf of the Reserve Bank, in January 2004 shows that 51% liked the idea of the new coins initially.

The ANZ Bank are asking for people to donate their old 5-cent coins to Plunket in their '5s for under fives' appeal.

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Israeli jets attack southern Lebanon despite partial halt to air strikes

July 31, 2006

Israeli jets have carried out strikes in southern Lebanon, despite agreeing to halt air attacks for 48 hours. An army spokesman has confirmed the action saying that the plane was intended to support ground troops in the area and was not targeting anything specific.

Meanwhile Israeli Defense Minister Amir Peretz addressed parliament saying that an immediate cease was not planned and that military action in Lebanon would continue.

He said "It's forbidden to agree to an immediate cease-fire, Israel will expand and strengthen its activities against the Hezbollah."


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Lesbians lose High Court marriage bid

July 31, 2006

Two lesbians who married lawfully in Canada have failed in their High Court bid to have their matrimony accepted under law in the United Kingdom.

Sue Wilkinson and Celia Kitzinger married in Vancouver in 2003, and they now live together in North Yorkshire. But they say the UK’s failure to accept the legality of their vows infringes a fundamental human right; under Article twelve of the Human Rights Act, it is stated that everyone has a right to marry.

But Sir Mark Potter, the President of the High Court Family Division, ruled today that their union should be accepted as a civil partnership instead of marriage. He emphasised that marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman designed for creating and bringing children up: “It is apparent that the majority of people, or at least of governments, not only in England but Europe-wide, regard marriage as an age-old institution, valued and valuable, respectable and respected, and as a means not only of encouraging monogamy but also the procreation of children and their development and nurture in a family unit in which both maternal and paternal influences are available in respect of their nurture and upbringing.”

The judge also said same-sex laws in England are in no way inferior as they are recognised as civil partnerships which give gay and lesbian couples the same rights as married couples on many issues. However, the two women say civil partnerships are not good enough for gay couples.

After the hearing, Ms Wilkinson said she and Ms Kitzinger were deeply disappointed by the judge’s decision. She said they had been stripped of their marriage by a judge who believes the traditional notion of marriage as being between a man and a woman so they can create children. “It perpetuates discrimination and it sends out a message that lesbian and gay marriages are inferior,” she commented. The couple are now seeking financial help so they can mount an appeal. “This judgement will not stand the test of time. We are looking forward to the day when there is full equality of marriage, not just for us but for all same-sex couples,” Ms Wilkinson added.

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Title is missleading.

 * Agree with the above, there was no talk of a ceasefire, just unconfirmed reports by an american diplomat that Israel will suspend bombings. I guess the american diplomat was wrong. --vonbergm 16:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Title is pov
And is based on on source other than an al jazera article taken out of context. Specificly the american diplomat said that israel have agreed to stop bombings, and not to stop operations. Israeli sources reported that israel have agreed to stop aerial bombings of targets that are not directly related to ground operations.
 * What Al-Jazeera article? The only source used here is AP. --Jambalaya 18:46, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


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Security Council sets deadline over Iran nuclear program

July 31, 2006

The United Nations Security Council passed a resolution today demanding Iran halt all "enrichment-related and reprocessing activities, including research and development" before August 31. The resolution was passed under Article 40, Chapter VII of the, which sets the stage for possible economic sanctions if Iran does not comply with the resolution, but does not authorise military action. Iran's envoy to the UN has rejected the move.

The resolution, number 1696, was drafted by the permanent five members of the council and was passed by a 14-1 vote, with Qatar, the only Arab member of the council voting against.

The resolution expressed "serious concern" at Iran's non-compliance with the 's demand to halt enrichment and other activities and asked the IAEA director to report on Iran's compliance by the end of August. This is the first legally binding demand on Iran to halt enrichment work, and the first to suggest possible sanctions. The resolution says that "appropriate measures" will be taken if Iran does not comply, but does not explicitly state any threat of sancions.

Iran's ambassador to the UN, Javad Zarif told the Reuters news agency, "Iran's peaceful nuclear programme poses no threat to international peace and security and therefore dealing with this issue in the Security Council is unwarranted and void of any legal basis or practical utility,"

Valery Churkin, Russia's ambassador to the UN said the deadline was meant to meet Iran's request to allow it to consider an offer made in June by the permanent five and Germany, offering Iran a "package" of sops in return for giving up enrichment activities.


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Wikinews:Briefs/July 31, 2006

The time is 19:30 (UTC) on July 31st, 2006, and this is Audio Wikinews News Briefs.

Israel suspends air strikes after deadly strike on Qana
Lebanon

After one of its raids killed at least 56 civilians, Israel agreed on Monday to suspend its aerial activities in south Lebanon for 48 hours. The announcement came after extended meetings between Condoleezza Rice, the US secretary of state, and Ehud Olmert, the Israeli prime minister.

Israeli jets attack southern Lebanon despite partial halt to air strikes
Yet, despite agreeing to halt air attacks for 48 hours, Israeli jets have carried out strikes in southern Lebanon. An army spokesman has confirmed the action saying it was intended to support ground troops in the area and was not targeting anything specific.

Security Council sets deadline over Iran nuclear program
United Nations

The United Nations Security Council passed a resolution today demanding Iran halt all "enrichment-related and reprocessing activities, including research and development" before August 31. The resolution was passed under Article 40, Chapter VII of the UN Charter, which sets the stage for possible economic sanctions if Iran does not comply with the resolution, but does not authorise military action. Iran's envoy to the UN has rejected the move.

Lesbians lose High Court marriage bid
United Kingdom

Two lesbians who married lawfully in Canada have failed in their High Court bid to have their matrimony accepted under law in the United Kingdom.

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Mel Gibson makes anti-semitic statements while drunk

July 31, 2006 Mel Gibson made anti-semitic remarks after being pulled over for drunk driving, having a blood alcohol level of .12. After being pulled over, Gibson berated the police, calling them 'motherfuckers' and saying he would 'fuck them'. The police report also said "Gibson almost continually [sic] threatened me saying he 'owns Malibu' and will spend all of his money to 'get even' with me." Gibson went on to say "Fucking Jews... the Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world," and then he asked the deputy: "Are you a Jew?" He also is reported to have referred to a female police officer as "sugar tits".

On Saturday, Gibson released this statement.


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Obrador supporters block streets in Mexico City

July 31, 2006 Tents began sprouting in Mexico’s capital Sunday afternoon after leftist presidential candidate Andres Manuel López Obrador called on his supporters to set up camp on the capital until a recount is ordered by the Federal Electoral Tribunal.

The encampments are to be placed along a 4.6-mile stretch of the city. As of now, the number of people in the camps is unknown but the encampments themselves are expected to block most of the streets in the city, an expectation made much more believable by the fact that in Sunday, only hours after Obrador’s message, one of the capital’s major avenues was blocked for miles. This was only the latest action in a series of protests after the controversial elections that took place in July 2, when Felipe Calderón beat López Obrador, the candidate considered most popular, by less than a percentage point. López Obrador stated he will only back down if the recount is made and a winner is re-chosen, subsequently the protests are not expected to stop until the Federal Electoral Tribunal makes a decision upon the disputed election.


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Talk:Mel Gibson makes anti-semitic statements while drunk

This is great
I love how Wikinews can publish what Gibson said uncensored. This is really good stuff... sugar tits! —     18:07, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


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User:Albizu

Who am I
I decided to write a little MySpace-like thing in my user page so here I go. :D

User Name: Albizu Location/Nationality: Puerto Rico (please note english is my 2nd language, just in case) Age: 14 Hobbies: Reading, writing, music...

Contributions
I haven't contributed a lot but I'm going to put my contributions in here as they come.
 * Obrador supporters block streets in Mexico City

Musicians/Bands I like
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676,000 Canadian census forms unfilled countrywide

July 31, 2006

Currently there are 676,000 Canada 2006 Census forms unfilled countrywide following the May 16 census, a large number for Alberta and British Columbia. Canada operates a mandatory census, requiring all citizens to participate or face court action, a $500 CAD fine and/or three months imprisonment.

Census workers are coming to citizens' houses and asking them to fill them out. “We’ll keep following up until we get them; it’s just costing taxpayers lots and lots of money for us to keep doing it,” said Lisa Gibbons from Statistics Canada.

"The census provides a snapshot of the country as a whole and of individual provinces, and each community and how it compares with where it was five years ago," said Gibbons.


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Landis asks for additional test

July 31, 2006

MADRID, Spain — Floyd Landis requested the testing of his backup urine sample today.

"We've sent the fax to the UCI this afternoon." "Now we'll have to adjust to their calendar," said Jose Maria Buxeda, one of Landis's two Spanish lawyers, of the Swiss-based International Cycling Union. Landis's lawyers say they fully expect the backup test to confirm the original finding.

Oscar Pereiro of Spain, who finished second overall in the Tour de France, would be declared the winner if Landis loses the title.

Results will be revealed during the week.

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Talk:676,000 Canadian census forms unfilled countrywide

This article is written...kinda like it was to be read on Canadian countrywide news. Neebs 23:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Updated, what do you think? 68.39.174.238 23:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it seems right now. Neebs 01:19, 1 August 2006 (UTC)


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Talk:Security Council sets deadline over Iran nuclear program

Strange phrase
What exactly is a "sop" in the contenxt of "a "package" of sops" ? 68.39.174.238 23:24, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


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User:Pashute

Inventor and innovator, musician and philosopher. Nature lover and child story-teller You can find me in various places on the web.

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User talk:Pashute

(W) introduced me. 01:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Recommend waiting a bit
Hia Pashute! On en.Wikinews our set of policies and our requirements for articles are a bit weird, so we like recommend waiting a bit before requesting the Reviewer flag. Usually we like to see someone write a few articles, and help fix a few more before the tag is granted (the time that this takes to happen depends on the contributor, but usually we prefer a person to be active on the project for a week or two before granting or regranting the Reviewer flag). This isn't to say that you won't make a great reviewer in a couple of weeks, we just like to be certain that new or returning users have a good grasp of all the oddness that is Wikinews before that particular flag is granted.

I hope this helps:). (Oh, and I replaced the old welcome template on this talk page with the *New And Improved* version (heh). Hopefully you don't mind.)Gopher65talk 17:09, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Article failed review
Your article, Two Israelis injured while Israeli rocket prevention system succeeds, has failed review. The reasons have been given on the article talk page. There is still time to fix it and get it published though! Gopher65talk 12:21, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Clashes between Palestinian Authority forces and local Arab Militants
I'm starting to have a look at this with my reviewer hat on. Two things spring out immediately. First, and most-important, is the headline. That could refer to almost any event over several months of years. Check the guidance in Howdy on picking a more-focused headline. If you're not able to move/rename the article, put suggestions on the talk page.

Secondly, you'd cited Facebook as a source, but not given any link. That's close to doing original reporting, but as you weren't linking to anything it is impossible to verify if, and what, details you might have picked up from there. I'm not saying pulling detail out of Facebook would not be accepted; it's just that you would need to treat it like original research, and provide links and quotes on the talk page for the article. So, I've had to removed that as an unlinked, and unusable, cite.

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I expect there's sufficient content to correct the other issue I should've popped up a note on: our three-paragraph minimum for an article. The image on Wikipedia's article covering the Inverted pyramid gives you a very visual template for that. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:16, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Rockets fired at Israel from Gaza following Netanyahu speech at White House
Hi. Please see my review comments. Alas, with delays in re-reviewing, we only have about 26 hours to get this article revised, re-reviewed, and published, unless new developments can be introduced. --Pi zero (talk) 22:03, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Two Israelis killed in Islamist attack in Hadera
Kindly add at least one English news source. 2006nishan178713t@lk 06:33, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

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User talk:Jq 320

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User talk:The Authority

Why block me? The Authority 05:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
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User talk:Zachary Leon Gottlieb~enwikinews

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Fidel Castro temporarily hands power to his brother Raul

August 1, 2006 President Fidel Castro of Cuba has temporarily handed duties, including command of the military forces, to his brother, Raúl Castro. Fidel Castro is undergoing intestinal surgery for gastrointestinal bleeding, and is temporarily unable to govern. 75-year-old Raúl Castro has been the Vice-President of Cuba and number two in the Communist Party of Cuba. Fidel Castro is 79 years old and has ruled since the 1959 revolution.

The power change was reported on Cuban television Monday night by Carlos Balenciago, Castro's secretary. According to the letter of Castro's that he read, the reason for the operation was stress and the President of Cuba will need to spend several weeks in bed.

Over 70% of Cuba's population was born after Castro's rise to power, who has served as president ever since. It is unknown how the population will react to such an unexpected change. However, a recently signed White House bill has allocated $30 million US dollars for the transition to a new Cuban regime in the case of just such an event.


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