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 * Protected Main Page? Please, put a notice on this discussion page if the main page is protected!
 * We actually haven't made a protected note yet. WHOOPS! thanks for pointing that out. [Since Dec 7] any changes made are being done through templates and not [by editing] the main page itself. The list of templates should be at the start of this discussion board. Lyellin 01:03, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * 沃德 : 有中国人吗
 * : 有. There are a few...  Not enough to start zh.wikinews.org yet, however (and many people would oppose such a site at the moment). Sj

 * I'm studying Chinese, so now we have 3 people who can sponsor a Chinese Wikinews! Only a few more! --Ce garcon 10:11, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Please write in English here -- King Ho Cheung January 24, 2005

This page needs pruning and summarising if appropriate, again. Any volunteers/objections? Simeon 06:40, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Main Page section headers
Weather Map

Discussion about weather map width, main page.

 * Main_Page/Sandbox
 * Main_Page/Sandbox1
 * Main_Page/Sandbox2
 * Main_Page/Sandbox3
 * Main_Page/WideSandbox3
 * Main_Page/Sandbox4

New Main Page topic needed - Environment and conservation.

Headlines and Blurb size

 * Articles proposed to be on main page one week.
 * Add date, category of news, and region categories to each article for archives
 * Main Page section headers
 * do not use graphics as section headers
 * do use secondary color panels

Use of graphic logos
I see a logo on the front page today which adds no meaning whatsoever to me, but it does look like a product placement.

Please use logos only in a graphic context which adds meaning to the story, for example showing two companies' logos together for a merger, or showing the logo against some visual clue that gives context, for example this time it is an oil company, if the logo was shown against an oil platform or gusher etc it would tell me something. Simeon 08:53, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Main Page : Just for our best work?

 * only reviewed articles
 * remove articles being written and edited box, etc.
 * redlinks questioned

Main Page in the long-term
Questions about what to include on the Main Page, largely undiscussed:
 * opposition to "Articles being written" box.
 * Links to sections
 * Reduce the number of direct article links, limited "latest news" or "today's news".
 * simplify, move topic links to top
 * include old news (but new articles) on main page?

Wikinews is news
See: Making news
 * Weiss, Aaron. "The Unassociated Press." The New York Times. February 10, 2005.

 * Hof, Robert D. "All The News You See Fit To Write." Business Week. December 27, 2004.

 * Murali, J. "Wikinews: News service with collaborative reporting." The Hindu. December 13, 2004.

 * Naughton, Philippe. "Open-source hacks." The Times (London). December 11, 2004.

Brazilian newspapers:
 * Folha de São Paulo (AF) - Jimmy Wales interview

 * Estado de São Paulo (AE) - "After Wikipedia success, Wikinews is born"

Brazilian online media newspaper:
 * Observatório da Imprensa - "Is this a new revolutionary journalism?"

Section pages generated automatically
Section pages like Politics and conflicts, Economy and business, Sports, etc could be generated automatically by software. Is it possible? -- Carlosar 23:46, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Not entirely. Main page entries could be auto-update through the use of templates. Section pages may be more in-depth but similar to main page layout? with updated latest news templates (which are on the main page.) But I don't believe there's any way at the moment to build latest pages for categories. - Amgine 08:17, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Order by news event X Order by finished editing
The articles should be ordered at the Main Page by the news event date or by the arrival date? How articles which are older but have been finished recently should be organized at the Main Page? -- Carlosar 23:59, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I think it should be put at the date when the event occured -- King Ho Cheung January 21, 2005

 * I disagree. The news article should be listed under the date it was started. An event that happened three weeks ago but was only written about today should get posted as today and not three weeks ago: otherwise it wouldn't even appear on the latest news pages. -- IlyaHaykinson 04:01, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

currency?
I'm not sure if this has been brought up, but is there a standard for currencies? So far what I've seen is the local currency and in parentheses the USD equivilent. Is this the best way? Would it be crowded to add, for example, the euro in there too... maybe: CDN$400 (US$350/EUR€300). (I know the numbers are way off) Is there a standard I was unaware of?

 * Take a look at the money and currency section of the style guide for info on currency usage. It doesn't mention providing a USD or EUR alternative to the local currency, though: maybe this is something we should mention there. How do other news organizations deal with this? -- IlyaHaykinson 18:40, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Exchange rates fluctuate minute-to-minute throughout the trading day. It is possible for exchange rate calculations to become obsolete quickly.

It is somewhat customary to state estimated figures in the local currency of the publisher -- in this case, Bomis, a US concern -- when citing exotic foreign amounts, e.g. "XXXXXX Cambodian Rials (XX US dollars)"; but in the case of Euros or Loonies this is usually deemed unwarranted. Providing US-CAN-EUR calculations is too much information, the savvy reader will check the rates at their own leisure.

 * For all intents and purposes, Bomis is not the publisher of this site. It is simply the hosting provider for some of the servers. -- IlyaHaykinson 02:14, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Developing stories : new design
I redesigned the Developing stories here. It is simple and it gives information about the status of the article. It is a general ideal about how the Developing stories could be. Off course it can be improved. -- Carlosar 00:05, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Really, if an article isn't ready to be published, it simply belongs on the workspace. Dan100 23:49, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Others wiki users had decided in a poll that unfinished articles should be put at the Main Page. -- Carlosar 09:36, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

That poll doesn't finish until January 20. Dan100 (Talk) 21:59, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

New intro
I've introduced a Wikipedia intro text, which will no doubt be met with howls of horror ;). Sadly I can't do anything about the huge area of white space between 'Main page' and the intro; an admin will have to (please!) fix that. Dan100 19:10, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Dan, I submitted a request on the Administrator page for one of the Admins to please remove the extra space above the Main Page welcome, by moving the Welcome template above the main table opening brace. I've posted an example at this page to show the fix. — DV 01:51, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Cheers, it looks much better now. BTW I made the short paragraph text 100% as I had to squint to read it at 94% on a 1024x768 monitor - and I thought I had good eyesight... Dan100 09:07, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Removed sorted stories
I've removed the Template:Sortedstories (included via the Template:newstories redirect) with the support of User:Dan100. The sorted list is horribly out of date with just a couple of stories added to the list since the beginning of the year. The activity in Latest News is probably enough to showcase our recent writing for now, at least until the main page changes get decided upon. -- IlyaHaykinson 19:52, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Could there please at least be a link to this sorted categorization from the main page? It is still interesting to see what's been written under a certain category even if it is not up to date. Also, if a policy of adding categories to each page is enforced, this should ensure that this is facilitated and automated (if these are done as category pages). Brettz9 17:28, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Ilya. Page loading speed is better (and it's probably less of a hit on the servers). Brettz, sortedstories hadn't been updated since December. If you go to Special:categories, you can see all the categories in use and have a poke about in them. However I'd recommend looking at the digests for recent stories which have gone from the Latest news. Currently, the main 'top-level' categories haven't been decided on and there doesn't seem to be a way of updating templates automatically. See the Water cooler for more. Dan100 (Talk) 21:39, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Developing stories: inaccurate warning
Developing stories at the Main Page may contain inaccurate and incomplete information since they are not ready yet. Should we warn the reader about that? -- Carlosar 13:56, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I agree, so made the changes. Dan100 (Talk) 21:56, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Original research
Okay, ive lauched our first experiment in original research - Conference discusses the credibility of blogs. I'm not trying to push this on anyone, just having a go at it while we are still in beta to see what happens. user:sj will be at the conference (with jimbo) and will hopefully feed us quotes and what not. So lets see how this goes. The bellman 12:27, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Main Page layout, article development.
The current layout is effectively broken and is causing additional conflicts. It consists entirely of recent articles and articles which are incomplete, and the weather module/categories are lost at the bottom.

The problem comes down to what do we wish to display on the main page, and how do we put it there.

What to display
Due primarily to screen size/length issues, the main page should be as simple as reasonably possible, and content (by screen footprint) should consist of graphic links and text links to published articles.

 * The category bars of major news agregators are small, and located near the top of the screen, the rest of the screen is usually news.
 * Including links to developing stories on the main page has been very effective; links to other elements of the editor tasks much less so. Perhaps links to articles in those other deprecated "stages" in sections of the workspce could reduce their impact.
 * "Breaking news" or latest news is a category, and should be only the very latest, perhaps the previous 24 hours or the last 5 articles "published" if we can automate the process.

- Amgine 18:06, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * my feeling is that news always looks best in columns. So like it is now, with the two columns is good, but i dont think that having the workspace on the front page is a good idea, so something else there. just dont ask me what else... The bellman 22:53, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

How to add articles
I strongly suggest we develop a method of automated display, which I am now working on an extension to do.

In the meantime, the sections which are planned to be displayed on an ongoing basis need to have editors who are interested in maintaining them. This will probably only work if they are admins. There are currently at least 6 regular contributors who would likely be willing to take on the responsibilities.

Main page templates should be manageable through a single page, but also allows multiple access points.
 * Prominently linked on the main page (see also edit links under Categories below)
 * The masthead and navigation, being rarely changed, should be protected.
 * Categories, including the latest news, should each have their own (nested) template
 * No direct edit link from main page
 * direct edit link from management page, workspace
 * The justification for this is the amount of "testing" edits. If people can easily experiment on the main page, they will. By adding a single step (link to the management page, then to the template to edit) the number of sandbox edits should be sharply reduced without removing access to everyone.
 * Section editors can link directly to the template they are interested in to sidestep the management page.

Main page templates should be linked to from the workspace as well. A section which discusses where articles should be placed - add to archives and one main page category - and links to the category templates.

- Amgine 18:06, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

My 2 Cents on Front Page Layout
I feel that the front page is not user friendly and should be customizible. In addition, the weather is too far down and the catagories of the news are virtually impossible, for a new member/guest, to access. This should be modified for the further expantion of Wikinews.
 * I don't believe a customizable main page is likely in future versions of the Wikinews software. However, multiple front pages can be, and if we make the elements of the front page modular you can build your own personal front page under your user page (User:Cafzal/frontpage as a possibility.) - Amgine 16:58, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

scroll
I just wanted to mention ( if you don't already know) that at 800 x 600 in firefox you have to scroll across to see the entire page which is kinda annoying. 24.65.22.111 23:37, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Dan100's layout
...can be seen here.

Why? Simple is best.

 * Being a news service, the most prominent feature (with the most page space) is the NEWS! However there's more than that to WN, so above the LN template is a small but prominent (and hopefully attractive) box with the most basic, essential, links.

 * I don't think we need to see Developing stories nor Editor tasks on the front page. Only 5% or so of wiki users contribute, the rest simply want to read, so are only interested in Latest news. However those who are keen contributors can still rapidly access DS and ET via the large main links.

 * You may have noticed an absence of any links to categories etc. You may also know that I don't like them. Instead, there's a prominent link to the 'how to search' guide, which will enable people to find past news quickly by searching. I believe that's more effective than categories. You can read more of my thoughts on this on the water cooler. Dan100 (Talk) 12:39, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * he he, I like it so much I gave it a purge link, bookmarked it and now use it as my own personal front page :). Well, it is a bit easier on the eye, isn't it? Dan100 (Talk) 21:52, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

other langs
Is it to early to put the little other languages image that they have in the top right hand corner of wikipedia, wikibooks, and other projects. I know that atm there is only german, but others are being planned right? The bellman 06:59, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * The situation with other languages is most odd. A new language project is supposed to set up after a minimum of five people have petitioned for it. However, there are many petitions with other 20 signatures but nothing has been done. It seems the Wikimedia top brass have lost interest in Wikinews. Dan100 (Talk) 17:08, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * nope, nl was just set up, and the mailing list said that french and something else are going to be set up very soon. The bellman 13:27, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I am waiting for other versions (e.g spanisch and french). Wikinews should be a global project. SonicR 20:36, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Spanish, Sweedish and French were just set up, so can some Admin please add the other langs icon, and possibly even an other langs section. The bellman 05:15, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Done. -- IlyaHaykinson 05:30, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Xwd
Suggest adding today's crossword to the front page? Dysprosia 11:28, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Possibly under the Weather template, in a little strip, titled Diversions, or something? Can this be done or some mention at Water cooler on the issue of having crosswords? Dysprosia 07:01, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

NL.wikinews
Could you please link the main page to the nl.wikinews nl:Hoofdpagina ? Waerth 20:03, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Added. -- IlyaHaykinson 20:09, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Wikimedia in another medias
The Brazilian magazine Veja published an one page article about the project Wikipedia last week. I put the picture and this news just for curiosity. The article praised but also criticized the project. I can write an story about it in Wikinews case there are some interest. --Carlosar 00:20, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Man looses
This February 2nd article should be man...loses. But how to change it? Squeakfox 00:52, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Yahoo chooses Dublin as location of new European Headquarters

Yahoo!, the internet portal, today announced it has chosen Dublin, Ireland as the location of its European Headquarters. Ireland beat off stiff competition from other European countries to win the investment. The move is expected to create over 400 jobs - two thirds of which are expected to be for graduates with skills in information technology, financial services, customer support and website editorial.

Earlier in the month, Ireland lost a potentially multi-billion euro investment by Dell for a new manufacturing facility to Scotland. This was a huge disappointment for — the countries main development agency — which had offered heavy incentives to the US computer maker. This brought about fears that Ireland had lost its ability to attract high-value investments from foreign multinationals — the driving force of Ireland's  economy.

Speaking about the investment, the Irish Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment, Micheál Martin, said winning the Yahoo project was a "truly outstanding achievement for Ireland". Yahoo's Senior Vice President International,, said the decision to locate its European operations headquarters in Ireland was influenced by a "number of factors" which included "the calibre and volume of graduates available in Ireland, the up to date cost competitive telecommunications and data centre infrastructure, and the assistance of IDA Ireland."

Yahoo is one of the world's largest internet companies. Its decision to locate in Ireland confirms Dublin's continued attractiveness to internet and technology companies - Google,, eBay, Microsoft, Amazon and all have significant Irish operations.

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/


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User:Simeon.A.Scott/tests

Simeon_test_01 Simeon_test_02 Simeon_test_03 Simeon_test_04

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User talk:Icedragon

Article submission
I'm going to move your article submission to User:Icedragon/Google story, just temporarily. We have one article on this story (Former Google employee says he was fired because of blog comments Feb 12). I haven't double-checked your story completely, but it sounds like your article may be covering the story from a different angle. If you think our current story covers the story well enough, add the text to the top of it and I'll delete it.

If you want to run with your story, we'll need to source all the factual claims and quotes. If this was a copy of a published article, we'll need to re-write it to conform with copyright requirements.

In either case, it's a great story idea! Thanks for your submission! - ~

I beleive they are two seperate incidents. The story I was covering is under the requested articles section as "White House reporter used fake name, had partisan ties" (sorry for not posting that as an interior link, still getting used to wiki formatting.) The claims and quotes were not found dircetly by me, and are from the various sources I have listed at the bottom of the article. One thing I need to check on is whether or not the documents were actually classified or not, So the headline wording may end up changing. As for the language and rhetoric used it's mostly mine, with small sections probably resembling some of my source's text. --Eric Bash 20:40, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Cool. Actually, I messed up and posted the wrong link... I'm pretty sure another contributor was working on a similar story, but since I can't find it, go ahead and develop yours. If there's anything I can help with, drop me a line on my talk page (which is getting long, I know. I'll clean it up rsn.) - Amgine 20:43, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * You may want to take a look at the Sources section of another article to see how sources can be cited using a template. Also see Writing an article for a good explanation of it. - Amgine 20:57, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Alright, went ahead and formatted my sources. Anything else it needs for finalization?--Eric Bash 21:29, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Looks good! Now, there are a few formatting issues.
 * The first line in the document should be Month DD, YYYY . This will put the date the article was written at the top, plus add it to the proper date category. You can read about this in the Style guide.
 * Also in the style guide, although you have written the vast majority of this article, over the next couple weeks it will be examined by hundreds of people who may add to it, cut sections, rewrite things. This is what Wikinews is about. You have to be ready for that, and realize it's not "your" article once you submit it. This is also why we don't include people's signatures.
 * If you're ready to have your article scrutinized and changed, I'll help you get it submitted. - Amgine 21:36, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Added the date and removed my sig, Was mainly looking for some credit on it as it would probably help my college applications to say I got a news article published. Then again, Wiki keeps track of the original author in the change log, so that works too. --Eric Bash 21:50, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * I understand. And every edit you make is available from your user pages - see the User contributions link in the toolbox in the left-hand column. Many users also keep a list of articles they started or made large contributions to on their user page, I think Carlosar does this, if you want to see one in action.
 * Now then, let's get your article moved to the main article space. I'll do that then add a bit more here. - Amgine 21:55, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Getting it posted
Now, the article is located at Conservative White House Reporter Using Pseudonym Gains Access to Presidential Press Briefing and Classified Documents. Normally you create your article via the Article Workspace, which has a nifty link for creating the first link to it in the developing stories template. (The developing stories is listed on the main page, so your article immediately gets main page coverage)

The Workspace is in the navigation box to the left.

Once an article has been completed, at least to the stage you think it's ready, you can post it to the day's archive which will put it in the "Latest news" template, which again is on the main page. The main page link actually links to this page, today: 2005/February/15 (It is automatically updated.)

If you go to that page, you can click the [edit] tab at the top of the page and it will let you add your article to the top of the list of articles already there. I'll stop adding bits here and let you take a crack at doing what I've been talking about. - Amgine 22:04, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

You're live, and on the main page. - Amgine 22:10, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Ok, well the hard part's over at least :) Do I now go and remove the request from the requested articles section? --Eric Bash 22:14, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * You clean up the requested article, and if it is in the developing stories you pull it out of there, too. If you want someone to look at it for copyediting, add it there. If it was also submited at submit a story, you erase it from there, too. By the way, do you have IRC? There is a link at the top of every page to our IRC channel. Might be easier to communicate there.

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Conservative White House reporter using pseudonym gains access to Presidential press briefing and classified documents

February 15, 2005 A lack of thorough and consistent measures to pick the White House press corps members has led many to question the reason a little-known conservative reporter had access to sensitive documents and the President of the United States.

Jeff Gannon, whose real name is James Guckert, has been operating under an assumed name while attending White House press briefings. Gannon/Guckert was a reporter for the news service Talon News, a website believed by some to be a branch of the GOPUSA, up until his recent resignation due to the incidents surrounding him.

The spotlight was originally cast on Guckert when called upon in a January 26 news conference. He asked President George W. Bush how he could work with Democratic congressional leaders "who seem to have divorced themselves from reality." Bloggers, seeing this as a "softball" question almost immediately began to question Guckert’s credentials and motives.

Guckert supposedly had access to classified documents that named Valerie Plame as a CIA operative as well, which adds more fuel to the fire of the Justice Department’s investigation of the release of her name.

Bloggers revealed James Guckert's real name, and that he was the registered owner of JeffGannon.com, Hotmilitarystud.com, Militaryescorts.com, and Militaryescortsm4m.com.

The accusations that Guckert has no degree in journalism, reports through a small organiztion funded by a larger conservative news outlet, operated under an assumed name, and is directly linked with pornographic domain names, have many questioning how exactly he received a press pass in the first place.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan, when questioned about this event, stated that Guckert did not have a regular White House press pass but was cleared on a day-by-day basis to attend briefings and used his real name. McClellan defended Guckert’s clearance saying that, "He, like anyone else, showed that he was representing a news organization that published regularly and so he was cleared two years ago to receive daily passes just like many others are."


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Usage
Avoid using this template in new articles. See the Wikinews style guide for preferred modern practice. We would now write
 * January 1, 2005, —
 * Massive floods soaked ...

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 * Massive floods soaked ...

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Wikinews profiled in news report

February 15, 2005 The Tech Beat, an online extension of magazine, posted a profile of  on Tuesday. Wikinews is an news source run by the non-profit.

The review compares Wikinews to "a cost-free or ", noting the volunteer base of  that collaborate in writing Wikinews articles. The Tech Beat cites the recent successes of Internet as evidence that Wikinews has a bright future.

The recent offer by to host, an open content encyclopedia,  was also mentioned to attest to the potential of Wikinews.

Wikinews was launched as a demonstration in November 2004.

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User talk:213.84.172.142

Welcome
213.84.172.142, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! -- Davodd | Talk 21:58, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
 * Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced
 * Introduction - overview of the site
 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
 * Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
 * Style guide - how articles should look before publishing
 * Contents - the contents page.
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * Audio Wikinews could always use more contributors
 * And of course, stories need writing!

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'The Gates' opens in New York City

On February 12, 2005, at 8:30 a.m., New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg dropped the first piece of fabric in The Gates, a land art project by Christo and Jeanne Claude.

The artists installed 7,500 metal "gates" along 23 miles of pathways in New York City's Central Park. Each gate supported a flag-shaped piece of saffron fabric. The project is scheduled to run from Feb. 12, 2005 through Feb. 27, 2005. The project is sometimes referred to as "The Gates, Central Park, New York, 1979-2005" in reference to the time between the artists' initial proposal and the present day.

Installation
The installation of the project began on January 3, 2005.

During the week of January 17th, the park was filled with workers using fork lifts to move the rectangular metal plates into position all over Central Park.

There were small signs placed on every walkway in the park with alphanumeric codes that the workers were using to place the metal places onto the designated spots.

As of January 27, most of the plates had been placed in their positions. Many had small orange plastic markers sticking up a foot or two (around half a metre) from each end, possibly intended to help people find the base plates if they were covered with snow. A major snow storm and extreme cold hampered progress in late January.

As of February 7, there were many teams of workers wearing silver grey smocks moving the vertical parts of the gates and attaching them to the base plates. The documentation describes the color as "saffron" but local observers describe it as orange.

When attached, the vertical pieces are about 6 metres high, with a cross bar at the top from which the flag piece hangs. The most common width seems to be 11 feet (3.35 metres), though they vary considerably (depending on the width of the path) from around 6 feet (2 metres) to over 20 feet (6 metres).

Opening
Once Bloomberg released the first piece of cloth, the rest of the gates were opened over the course of the next few hours, with large crowds of people watching. Generally, the crews of people who erected the gates were assigned to open them. They simply had to walk underneath, and use a hook at the end of a long stick to pull a loop hanging from the cross bar of each gate. That opened the cloth bag which contained the "flag" part of the gate. The bag fell to the ground, along with a card board tube around which the flag was rolled. The flag then hung majestically from the cross bar.

As of Feb. 13, all of the gates have been opened. The project staff is still deployed in the park, patrolling, and replacing a few of the gates that have become damaged. There are many more people then usual walking around in the park, looking and photographing The Gates.

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Altered HIV a potential cancer treatment?

February 16, 2005

At UCLA, a team of researchers has developed a harmless version of HIV that is designed to seek out, and potentially destroy, cancer cells.

In a laboratory-mouse experiment, the treated cells headed directly for melonoma and lung cancer cells, clustering around them with a surprising level of intuitiveness. Gene therapy for cancer has been at an impasse for the last 20 years, said the team, but now an effective carrier has been found in the most unlikely of sources. Essentially, one of the world’s largest health threats is now being considered to fight another.

Says Dr. Irvin Chen, from UCLA's AIDS Institute, "The disarmed AIDS virus acts like a Trojan horse, transporting therapeutic agents to a targeted part of the body, such as the lungs, where tumors often spread."

First the virus's coating is removed and the virus is reprogrammed so that it recognizes and attaches to the p-lipoproteins of a cancer cell, one of cancer's primary defenses. The retro-virus was also altered with a fluorescent protein for easy tracking within the lab mice. The next step will be to graft a cancer-killing gene onto the modified AIDS virus's genetic structure.

Currently, a case of melanoma skin cancer spreading to the lungs is a confirmed death sentence. Should this method of treatment improve into a workable treatment, both life-threatening cancers and the AIDS retro-virus could be effectively neutered. But the team cautions that the treatment is in the very early stages and will take several more years to develop.


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Mayor of London compares reporter to Nazi prison guard

February 16, 2005 London Mayor Ken Livingstone has refused to retract a Nazi insult made to a reporter. The comments were made when Evening Standard reporter Oliver Finegold approached Mr Livingstone while he was leaving a party celebrating the 20th anniversary of Chris Smith becoming the first homosexual MP to “come out”, which he was attending as a private matter. Livingstone apparently saw the presence of the journalist as an infrigement on his private life.

Mr Livingstone is reported to have asked 'what were you before?' and then asked if Finegold was a German war criminal; he then compared the reporter to a “concentration camp guard.”

Ken Livingstone has headed the Greater London Authority since 2000.

Labour's Mayor is said to be “standing by” his remarks and at his weekly press conference on Tuesday ruled out an apology and said that his comments were not racist.

“If you think they are racist, I think you are wrong,” he told media representatives.

The Board of Deputies of British Jews has submitted an official complaint to the Standards Board for England which, if it decides to take action has the power to suspend or bar Mr Livingstone from office or alternatively may recommend that Mr Livingstone do something like attend race awareness meetings.

In separate moves the London Assembly passed two motions on Monday asking the Mayor to apologise for his comments.

The Mayor has said that his comments would not affect the 2012 Olympic bid made to the International Olympic Council, representatives from which arrived in London on Tuesday.

On the recording made by the reporter Mr Livingstone is heard to ask Mr Finegold if he is a “German war criminal,” to which Mr Finegold replies “No, I’m Jewish, I wasn’t a war criminal. I’m quite offended by that.”

The Mayor then went on to say “Ah right, well you might be, but actually you are just like a concentration camp guard, you are just doing it because you are paid to, aren’t you?”


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User talk:212.74.96.197

Thanks
Thanks for the stories; both are excellent and gained good feed-back after I published them. Keep up the good work! If you want, you could follow the instructions on Writing an article and go through the whole process yourself, or just keep using Submit a story. Dan100 (Talk) 23:49, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:81.155.203.91

Thanks for the following submission for Wikinews. Sadly we can't publish stories that have been copied straight from another news source as that breaks copyright laws. What we need to do is re-write stories in our own words. I've reposted the article below if you want to have a shot at that, but it needs to be more than just changing the odd word here and there - have a go at writing a new article from scratch using this as the source. Doesn't have to be nearly as long. Dan100 (Talk) 23:47, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Kyoto Protocol to come into effect Wednesday
February 15, 2005

The Kyoto Protocol, which aims to slow down global warming, will come into effect on Wednesday.

Most of the industrialised world has ratified the treaty, promising to slash greenhouse gas emissions.

A total of 141 countries have signed up, but the US and Australia have abstained, for economic reasons.

The treaty comes into force 90 days after Russia's crucial decision to ratify it in November 2004.

Russia's entry was vital, because for the treaty to work, it has to be ratified by nations accounting for at least 55% of greenhouse gas emissions. This target was only met after Russia joined.

Individual targets

The protocol, which becomes a legally binding treaty at 0500 GMT on 16 February 2005, demands a 5.2% cut in greenhouse gas emissions from the industrialised world as a whole, by 2012. Each country has been set its own individual targets according to its pollution levels.

Growing developing countries China and India are outside the framework, a fact pointed out by US President George W. Bush when he abandoned Kyoto as one of his first acts when taking office in 2001.

"The countries outside the treaty say they will take measures on their own but I wonder if they can work," said Japan's Foreign Minister Nobutaka Machimura.

"We want to continue urging them to join the protocol."

Environmentalists plan to hold protests around the world, including Kyoto, to mark the treaty coming into force - with many targeting the United States.

The main ceremony to mark the entry of Kyoto will be held in the ancient Japanese capital where the treaty was reached in 1997. Speakers are to include Nobel Peace prize winner Wangari Maathai.

Ms Maathai, an ecologist and Kenya's deputy environment minister, said the Kyoto Protocol would require not just efforts from governments and businesses, but also a change in the way people live.

"One of the reasons why some of the countries don't want to support the Kyoto Protocol is exactly because they don't want to reduce their over-consumptive life pattern," Ms Maathai, the first African woman to win the Nobel Peace Prize, said.

"One way of reducing that over-consumption is by learning to reuse a lot of the resources that we use and just throw away."

Tough goals

But even for countries that have signed up to Kyoto, meeting the goals could be difficult.

Canada, one of the treaty's first signatories, has no clear plan for reaching its target emission cuts.

Far from cutting back, Canada's emissions have continued to grow, increasing by 20% since 1990.

And Japan is also unsure it will be able to meet its legal requirement to slash emissions by 6% from 1990 levels by 2012.

"Japan will make all efforts to respect the rules of the Protocol," said Takashi Omura, an official at the Japanese environment ministry. "It will neither be easy nor insurmountable."

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User talk:Areitz~enwikinews

Welcome
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User talk:Julianortega

 DE VACACIONES - DE FÉRIAS - ON VACATION - 休暇中 - IN VACANZA

Aplazadas / Delayed 22 febrero / Fevereiro / February / febbraio - 6 marzo / Março / March / marzo 2006

2006年2月22日～3月6日

Welcome
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es wikinews print edition
Thats kind of strange because I've never had this problem before. Thanks for responding. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:31, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

es:Día de los Santos Inocentes
Now it all makes sense :). Thanks for clearing that up. --Deprifry|+T+ 21:41, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: Stroessner
Bueno, quizas es una inocentada de parte de Noticias. Es posible. Pero no puede ser que me esten acusando de que yo so un vandal. Si es una inocentada, no yo tenía idea y solo trataba de ayudar a Wikinews. Paraguayo 21:53, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Puse el articulo el deletion requests. Pero mantendré el articulo en mi user page pues no sé si es de verdad una inocentada. Les mantaré un email a Noticias para confirmar. Noticias no tiene ningún disclaimer diciendo que efectivamente era una inocentada. Paraguayo 21:58, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

La gobernadora general de Canadá emite comunicado sobre tiroteo de Montreal
Thank you for translating this, this is the first article I wrote that's been translated into any language! -- Zanimum 19:00, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:64.17.62.35

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Google plans to help Wikipedia
I responded on Talk:Google plans to help Wikipedia - Amgine 09:30, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hey
For what it's worth, I didn't write the deconstruction of the article on the Talk page, although to be honest, I agree with it.

But I get your point about copyrights - as the holder, you can re-publish as you see fit. BTW Wikinews is public domain; anything you or anyone else writes here you can put on your blog with no restrictions. BTW we can put PD images on the site; we just can't upload them directly, we have to put them on commons.wikimedia.org first.

I'm sorry your first experiences with Wikinews haven't been great. I hope we can do better in the future. Dan100 (Talk) 10:18, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Please see: Talk:Google offers to help Wikipedia
Article undeleted. -- Davodd | Talk 11:26, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Wikinews profiled in news report

I don't think we should be reporting about ourselves, unless there's some really newsworthy thing that happens with Wikinews (i.e. a reporting scandal, or whatnot). -- IlyaHaykinson 00:53, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Agreed. A self-referential story is boring, and potentially confusing.

 * I roll my eyes when supposedly objective news outlets (usually the smaller ones) write about coverage of themselves in a "news" story. It always turns out to be little more than thinly-veiled self-congratulation for being recognized by another news outlet. It also appears rather amatuerish.

 * What's next - trackbacks? If I wanted to contribute to a blog, I would contribute to a blog. Wikinews is not a blog. — DV 14:48, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

If Wikinews already is a news item it should be free to report on it self, sticking to the facts. But i agree there is now reason to start reporting on every news report or blog on Wikinews. 12:18, 17 Feb 2005 (manual timestamp, you can timestamp your comments by typing ~ - Amgine 16:01, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC))

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Another body found in Brazil near U.S. nun murder scene

According to the Brazilian newspaper O Estado de São Paulo the body of a prominent Brazilian agriculturalist was found on the morning of Tuesday, February 15, in Anapu, Pará, Brazil.

The man, identified as the agriculturist Cláudio Branco who was also known by the nickname Mato Grosso, had received several gun shots to his chest. He was found in Anapu at Gleba Manduacari, on government property controlled by the agency Incra. The area was to be used by slain sister Dorothy Stang in a new project.

Branco's body was moved to Altamira for an autopsy.


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Talk:Another body found in Brazil near U.S. nun murder scene

I have chosen the following title: Anapu,Brazil:another body found

Is it ok? Do you have a better sugestion? --Carlosar 01:47, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)


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User talk:66.47.86.4

Welcome
66.47.86.4, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Dates
Just a quick note to let you know that we don't use AP dats, as we're not AP. We also don't use a byline unless the story was original reporting by someone right there. Dan100 (Talk) 08:48, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Kyoto Protocol comes into effect

The Kyoto Protocol, aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions from developed nations, came in force on Wednesday at 6am UTC. The treaty has been signed by 141 nations who together account for 55% of global carbon dioxide emissions.

The treaty was proposed in December 1997 and requires signatories to reduce their combined greenhouse gas emissions to 5% below 1990 levels by the year 2012 in an effort to reduce the impact of global warming. Each country has individual targets.

Of the major industrialized nations, the USA and Australia are notable absentees from the list of signatories. Both argue that the treaty is flawed and that signing the protocol is not in their national economic interests. The United States produces more CO2 emissions than any other single country in the world, both in total (5,410 million metric tons) and also per capita (20.1 tons per capita).

Despite this, the way was paved for ratification of the treaty after Russia signed up in November 2004.

Other criticisms of the protocol are that the treaty does not include India and China, or other developing nations.

Countries that ratify the treaty will have access to the emerging international market in carbon credits, estimated to be worth billions of dollars each year. This system allows individual countries to trade in their emission allowances - a country can buy credit from another that has cut emissions, and then increase their own carbon dioxide production.

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Chinese researchers crack major U.S. government algorithm used in digital signatures

February 16, 2005

According to computer security expert, a widely-used cryptography , known as , has been broken by three researchers at in China. Designed by the US intelligence agency NSA, SHA-1 has been adopted as an official US government standard and has become widely-used in security applications worldwide, notably. The three female researchers, Xiaoyun Wang, Yiqun Lisa Yin, and Hongbo Yu, have reduced the amount of time needed to find two documents with the same signature by a factor of more than 2000.

The SHA-1 algorithm is used to compute a short string of numbers, known as a, for any digital document. The algorithm is constructed such that small changes in the document cause the hash to change drastically. By this means, the hash can be used to verify that a document has not been tampered with.

The attack that Schneier describes is a "," rather than the more useful "pre-image" attack. In a, the codebreaker is able to find a document with different contents that matches an existing hash and so can claim an existing signature was on something else. In the somewhat less valuable "collision attack," the is able to devise two documents that both have some particular hash. A adversary might use this to claim that an altered document is the original on the grounds that they have the same hash. A crafty adversary might also be able to trick someone into signing an innocuous document, one of a pair from a collision. The other document, which might not be as harmless, would then also appear to have been signed by the same person. If collisions can be found for SHA-1, then digital signatures will no longer vouch for a document's authenticity.

The attack, for now, is more of a theoretical than a practical kind: it would currently take thousands of years on a modern personal computer, and would still be slow even if a large number of computers were used in parallel.

Xiaoyun Wang is currently a professor at, while Hongbo Yu is a doctoral candidate at the same institution. Yiqun Lisa Yin is currently a visiting researcher at the Princeton Architecture Laboratory for Multimedia and Security (PALMS). Last year, Xiaoyun Wang and Hongbo Yu also took part in breaking a series of similar algorithms, including the widely used hash, as documented in their paper presented at the Crypto 2004 conference.

Officials from the (NIST) have recently recommended dropping SHA-1 in favor of stronger, slower algorithms, such as, Federal Computer Week reported on February 7, 2005, just 7 days before Schneier announced the SHA-1 break. Despite deprecating SHA-1, William Burr, the head of NIST's security technology group, said that "SHA-1 is not broken, and there is not much reason to suspect that it will be soon."


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User:Craig.lz~enwikinews

Hi. My name's Craig Taylor (craig.lz/c.lz). I have been contributing to Wikipedia for a few months now, mostly in the form of corrections, minor edits etc. I am working on creating at least one new page on an Australian author, and have an idea for one other new page.

I live near Canberra and may be able to make it to Parliamentary sittings. I have no party affiliations. I keep up with "minor" parties, so would be interested in covering that area of politics where it's relevant to mainstream Australian politics.

I am studying towards a writing degree (plan to start a degree proper in 2006) thru 2005.

Yeh. So, I discovered this page today, and still have some background reading to do as to the purpose of this page.

One thing I would like to recommend: that this page be not solely Oz, but Oceania, encompassing 'Asia'.

cheers

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Wal-mart way to be revised

February 16, 2005

U.S. retail-chain Stores will revise their "everyday low price" strategy at  supermarket in Japan. Seiyu's year-end loss in 2004 was 12.3 billion yen. The U.S. style low price selling did not appeal to Japanese consumers.

Wal-Mart bought a 6.1% share of the Seiyu company in 2002. At that time, Seiyu had lost money in 3 out of the previous 5 years. Wal-Mart introduced their "everyday low price" selling method to Seiyu, with lineup such as 900 yen fleece wear or jeans imported directly from China. Sales did not grow as expected, since consumers wanted a more varied range of products rather than just cheap prices. "We will adjust our bias to low priced items, and resume selling name-brand goods our customers like to see," says CEO Masao Kiuchi. Seiyu will go back to their previous way of marketing through inserted fliers showing the daily specials, quite the opposite of Wal-Mart way. (The Nikkei)

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User talk:210.159.148.226

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User talk:68.164.95.186

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User talk:61.68.115.161

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User talk:203.122.201.216

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User talk:67.165.66.74

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User talk:Jonbro~enwikinews

Welcome
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Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Jonbro. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Jonbro~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:16, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:32, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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Wikinews:Changing attribution for an edit

General Notes
It is possible for a developer to alter the database such that an edit which was attributed to an anonymous IP address is attributed to a username. This is usually requested because either:

 * An editor contributes anonymously for a while, and then creates a username and wants their previous edits attributed to their new name; or
 * A user accidentally logged out before making an edit. (Note that there is a simple way to "reclaim" such an inadvertently anonymous edit, provided you act straight away: While still logged out, revert to the version in the history immediately before the edit. Then log in and re-revert to the version after the edit, re-entering your original edit summary.)

Developers reserve the right to deny requests if they feel that there is any reason to doubt the identity of the contributor.

Please note that it may take some months before a developer has time to carry out your request.

Changed Username
If a user changes from one username to another and wishes all their old edits to be attributed to the new name, see Wikipedia:Changing username. [edit]

Notes on IP addresses
If you wish to change the attribution of an edit in this way, place a request below using the same IP address as you used to make the edit. This is so that we can be sure the IP address was really the user in question. In some cases, an IP address from the same dial-up ISP will be sufficient. Also include the target username, and a link to the diff.

Procedures
Note:You must do this on the computer on which you did the original edits. Please follow procedure, as it will make the process go much faster.

 * 1) Make sure you are not logged in.
 * 2) Create a new heading labeled with your IP address like this: ===1.2.3.4=== at the top of the list.
 * 3) Copy the table below under the new heading, your IP will be automatically entered.
 * 4) Add any notes to the Notes section; otherwise, leave this section blank. If these edits are in a foreign language wiki, note it here.
 * 5) Save the page.
 * 6) LOG IN, and add your user name with Amgine 06:29, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC) to the section "ADD YOUR USERNAME AND TIMESTAMP AFTER YOU LOG BACK IN"
 * 7) Manually remove the User: part from the IP address, so that is is in this format: IP.
 * 8) The last 2 cells are for the user/time stamps of the checkers and database changers. Please delete the text and leave blank.
 * 9) Have patience. The checkers and database changers will get around to it.

If your request is declined for some reason, it may be moved to Wikipedia:Changing_attribution_for_an_edit/Rejected_requests and an explanation given below it. [edit]

Table to Copy

Instructions for developers

 * 1) log on zwinger
 * 2) change to the maintenance/ directory
 * 3) Delete ../attribute.log and ../attribute.sql if they are there from a previous run (they are in the parent directory, not in maintenance/ ).
 * 4) Run script attribute.php . example: php attribute.php en wikipedia 216.103.211.240 "Daniel Quinlan". This will append a log entry to attribute.log, and some SQL statements to attribute.sql. Note that PHP doesn't work on ariel at the moment (2004-07-17). It's acceptable to run attribute.php on a slave machine, as long as the slave is up to date.
 * 5) If necessary, review attribute.sql, and delete any unnecessary SQL statements.
 * 6) Repeat steps 4 and 5 for each person
 * 7) Send the SQL file into the mysql client, making sure you are using the master database.
 * 8) Copy the contents of attribute.log to the wiki


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Lack of facts no hindrance to speculation about Google, Wikipedia

February 15, 2005

"Google Inc. has made a proposal to host some of the content of the Wikimedia projects." This small sentence has launched a thousand rumours, and not just in the blogosphere and on Slashdot, but in BusinessWeek and on ABC News as well.

The offer, as described on the unofficial announcement on Wikimedia's meta.wikimedia.org site, is less exciting than the speculation, however. The page simply says the board is discussing the offer, which does not require advertising, and plans to meet with Google via IRC in March.

For Google, flush with US$52 billion capitalization since its IPO in August 2004, an offer to host some Wikimedia Foundation content is a small expense. For Wikimedia, a non-profit with a bandwidth appetite doubling every four months, prowling for funds is constant.

The offer was met with howls of varying sorts, depending on where they emanated from online and business circles. John Dvorak seems opposed to any such deal, and his views have traction online, judging by comments on Slashdot after a link to his column appeared there.

Equally speculative calls from the other direction say Google and Wikipedia are destined to join forces. Unnamed analysts quoted on TechWack (and re-quoted on p2pnet.net) called it a response to Microsoft's re-entry, newly powered with its Encarta content, into the search engine market.

Blogs linked Google stock deals with the rumours of a hosting deal - and with the valuable commodity of social responsibility. The howls from within Wikipedia's community run the gamut of hopes and fears as well.

That such limited facts can raise the passions of the online and the business communities to such a pitch should impress both Google and Wikipedia with their status on the internet.


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User talk:62.219.253.66

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Talk:Lack of facts no hindrance to speculation about Google, Wikipedia

Does anyone seriously think this is newsworthy?! I doubt anyone outside of a handful of people care who or what hosts Wikipedia (ask your mum/sister/brother/son - are they interested?) Dan100 (Talk) 08:34, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I think the role that both Google and Wikipedia play, combined with Google's market power both financially and in terms of user-base, makes this story worth running. I think it might serve better if it just stated the known facts and refuted any that had been claimed falsely rather than repeatedly trying to say there was no basis for the rumours. There is a basis, just as the article says, there is an offer on the table.

Newsworthy?

 * Technorati search 554 posts matching Wikipedia Google deal sorted by most recent.
 * Google news search Results 1 - 10 of about 60 for Wikipedia Google
 * Yahoo news NEWS STORIES Results 1 - 10 of about 19 for Wikipedia Google offer.

Not to mention the specific names PC Magazine, ABC News, BusinessWeek, TechWeek, etc. Apparently others think so. Did you happen to read the article by any chance? - Amgine 08:58, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)


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Wikinews talk:2005/February/16

I bumped the two submit a stories I published yesterday up to today as I put both out less than half an hour before today. I should've waited a bit longer; they should get the exposure they deserve. Dan100 (Talk) 08:51, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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U.S. 2004 tax rates lower for those earning over $10 million, Tax Policy Center says

February 16, 2005

The Tax Policy Center has published a table that states that taxpayers earning more than $10,000,000 in 2004 paid lower tax rates than taxpayers earning between $1,000,000 and $10,000,000. Among other things, it breaks down the average tax rate by cash income into various income tax categories.

According to the Tax Policy Center, the average tax rate paid by the 9,000 taxpayers earning over $10,000,000 in 2004 was 20.1%, more than 2% lower than the nearly quarter million taxpayers earning between $1,000,000 and $10,000,000. If taxpayers earning over $10,000,000 were taxed at 22.3%, the rate of those earning between $1,000,000 and $10,000,000, the federal government would have received an additional $4.8 billion in revenue.

Taxpayers who earned more than $10,000,000 paid a lower average rate than any category of taxpayer earning over $100,000. Although taxpayers in the $75,000 to $100,000 range paid 18.9% of their income in taxes, 1.2% less than those making over $10,000,000, taxpayers in the $100,000 to $200,000 range paid an average of 20.6%, or 0.5% more than those making over $10,000,000.

Furthermore, the Tax Policy Center's analysis is described by David Cay Johnston, New York Times columnist and author of Perfectly Legal as "understating the real economic gains of those at the very top, who have perfectly legal ways to defer reporting income for tax purposes."

The Tax Policy Center is a nonpartisian joint venture of the Urban Institute and Brookings Institution and comprised of nationally recognized experts in tax, budget, and social policy who have served at the highest levels of government.


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Talk:U.S. 2004 tax rates lower for those earning over $10 million, Tax Policy Center says

The 4.8 billion number in the 2nd paragraph is by my calculations from here http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/TaxFacts/TFDB/TFTemplate.cfm?Docid=203 If anyone wants to check my work, I added individual income taxes (765,399 mil) to the social insurance and retirement receipts (732,792 mil). Then I multiplied that number (1,497,791) by 2.9%, the "share of total" from the original table to get the amount contributed by those earning over $10,000,000. I then multiplied that number by (2.2/20.1), the fractional increase of a 2.2% raise in taxes. - from Pencil Pusher (moved here by Dan100 (Talk) 09:06, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC))

 * By presenting your own "facts", based upon your own calculations, you tread dangerously close to "original research".

 * How would you feel if I selectively presented my own "facts" derived from these numbers to push my own political agenda?

 * The snide reference to funding the head start program using your calculated number is pushing a political agenda.

 * If you feel compelled to make editorial comments biased in favor of increasing the rate on upper-income taxpayers to achieve certain policy goals, please do so here on the talk page or on your user page, but not in the body of the article.

 * — DV 09:38, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * You have a point about the Head Start program, but other than that what is wrong with this article? This is wikinews, not wikipedia - original research is allowed and encouraged, and he clearly states the source of the raw data.

So fix it, DV. Obviously article should be written from a neutral point of view, but we do allow original research on Wikinews. Dan100 (Talk) 18:52, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * I think that the aticle is fair except for the first sentence. The first sentnence isn't neccessarily misleading but is definetly an opinion. Muskoka 23:10, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * "original research is allowed and encouraged"? Really? Where is that policy stated? That's sure news to me. Is POV editing in vogue as long as it engages in class warfare?

 * As for "fixing it", I removed the sentence about the head start program, but I'm not about to debate conclusions drawn from selectively chosen statistics, which would only serve to start an edit war over an article which is serving a thinly-veiled political agenda to begin with.

 * Moving forward, if "original research" is allowed, can I start grabbing random statistics from a "nonpartisan" think tank of my choosing, and start publishing a new column called, "Lies, damn lies, and statistics"? Such a column might make for an entertaining read, but astute readers would quickly point out that such "original research" does not comport with "NPOV".

 * Original research, editorials, opinion columns, even reports from firsthand witnesses - they're all in conflict with "NPOV" to some degree, so it's amusing when wannabe policymakers on this site declare that some of these forms of opinion are acceptable while others are not.

 * Perhaps Wikinews will mature and eventually admit that the honest thing to do is to simply drop the pretense that an objective standard for "NPOV" is possible when reporting the news, and openly follow an editorial bias in its reporting. Readers with critical thinking skills see right through the facade of "NPOV". We're not fooling anyone by using "NPOV" as a rallying cry and then selectively publishing articles such as this one.

 * Cheers,

 * — DV 14:15, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * frankly, I don't understand your objection. I went too far with one sentance, and that sentance was deleted.  So what, exactly to you have a problem with?  That I took some numbers and hit mulitply on my calculator?  Why is this a problem for you?  Are you disputing the accuracy of the numbers?  Are you disputing the accuracy of the math?  The table told us that the uber-rich contributed 2.9% to the total receipts and were taxed at a rate of 20.1%.  This is 2.2% less than the not-quite-uber-rich group.  Any reasonably intelligent 7th grader should be able to tell you how to put the numbers together if you wanted to know how what % of extra cash you would get if the two groups were taxed the same. I really don't understand what you are complaining about, or what exactly is being "disputed".  Pencil Pusher 18:54, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * I was going through the NPOV debates, and came across this article. Wikinews has a specific policy about original reporting at Wikinews talk:Original reporting.  It's specifically allowed.

Chipuni 03:55, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

correction
The row in the table that you referr to people making $1000 - $10,000 is actually (1000 - 10000) * 1000, which reffers to people making ($1 million to $10 million). The table does not state numbers for people between $1000 - $10000. The closest it comes is for people making less then $30,000 this is only 6.7% of income. This is actually 13.4% less then people making more then $10 million.

 * huh? I think you may have misread the article. Taxpayers making less than $75K/year were not discussed.

Removing dispute tag - adding OR
Article changes have not been challenged, article appears to include original reporting as explained on this page. - Amgine/talk 02:40, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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User talk:138.4.2.165

Welcome
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Zapatero builds left axis in South America

The Prime Minister of Spain José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero visited Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Uruguay recently, in a effort to build a left axis in South America.

The cited countries' South American Presidents agreed to collaborate at international level, particularly in the United Nations, European Union and with Paris, Berlin and Madrid.

Zapatero visited the following cities in four days: Brasilia, São Paulo, Buenos Aires and Santiago de Chile. According to official sources these visits are the last part of the project he began at the EU-Latin American Summit in Guadalajara, Mexico and pursued in the IberoAmerican meeting in Costa Rica in November.


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Talk:'The Gates' opens in New York City

The image was uploaded and added to the article by Pingswept himself, so even though it's not PD, I believe we can use it with his/her permission. Dan100 (Talk) 10:43, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Google offers to help Wikipedia

February 16, 2005 Google Inc. may offer hosting services to Wikipedia, a free community-built encyclopedia, and other projects hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation. Preliminary talks are scheduled to continue in March.

The steps of Google towards Wikipedia are not surprising. Google's competitors, such as Clusty.com, MSN Search, and Yahoo, already offer searching of encyclopedias as a dedicated search category. Clusty.com offers the English Wikipedia, MSN Search links to Encarta, and Yahoo has access to the Columbia Encyclopedia.

Wikipedia is often one of the top results of many searches. Anyone can distribute and even modify Wikipedia content in compliance with its license, called the GNU Free Documentation License. Besides attribution, the license requires that modifications are made available under the same conditions, a principle known as "copyleft" and most frequently applied to computer software such as the free operating system Linux.

How would a tight Wikipedia integration into Google look? The technical side of Google hosting also leaves various possibilities:
 * 1) A Wikipedia-specific search category like Google's Newsgroups Index Google Groups that even is editable. You can subscribe to Google Groups and post a response to a message thread.
 * 2) A Wikipedia-specific search category that is non-editable and links to the original project like Google Category that uses the Open Content the Open Directory Project.
 * 3) An inline feature that emphasizes Wikipedia results at the top of a search result. For details see Google Web Search Features.
 * 1) Google could place a daily updated mirror of Wikipedia that is Google-owned and hosted as a subdomain like news.google.com. That option could be perceived negatively by the Wikipedia users. There is already a discussion on Wikipedia how to deal with Mirrors of Wikipedia that are listed in Google search results higher than the original content. Wikipedia:Send in the clones
 * 2) Google could offer some Web servers with unlimited bandwidth for the Wikimedia Foundation without conditions. That would have benefits for both sides: Wikipedia, that is currently in the Top 200 Web sites according to Alexa.com, would have no problems with  delivering the content to the users. Google could index Wikipedia content instantly and would not be restricted to the limited number of requests to index it by Google Webspiders.

Here is an excerpt of a page about hosting posted on Wikimedia's "Meta-Wiki", which is used by the community to coordinate project organization:

"Google Inc. have made a proposal to host some of the content of the Wikimedia projects. The terms of the offer are currently being discussed by the board. The developer committee have been informed of some of the details via email. A private IRC meeting with Google is planned for March, 2005. Please note that this agreement does not mean there is any requirement for us to include advertising on the site."

The original summary was written by Angela Beesley, one of the two elected board members of the Wikimedia Foundation, which operates Wikipedia and its sister projects. According to a message posted to a public Wikimedia discussion list by the second elected trustee, Florence Nibart-Devouard, Wikipedia founder and Wikimedia president Jimmy Wales met with Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin on February 10, "who were extremely enthusiastic about the whole project."

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User:Paulrevere2005/Afghanistan opium production keeps skyrocketing while the administration says

[]Thomas Friedman's recent NY Times OP-ED piece; editorial "No Mullah left behind" stating that the "Bush administration is financing both sides of terrorism" dealt with the issue of petro dollars finding their way into enemy hands. Another similar "aiding the enemy"issue has popped up.

In 2002 superbowl ads paid for by the Bush administration,the message was sent to americans that "Drugs Fund Terrorists."[]

Meanwhile the annual reports put out by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime show that Afghanistan opium production has been skyrocketing,up over 1,000%, since the coalition invaded and took over effective military control of the country. The Nov.2004 UNODC report shows a 64% increase(from 2003) in Afghan acreage producing the drug and a 22% increase in export value for the year(2.8 billion(US dollars).

Doug Wankel, a former Drug Enforcement Administration official who is point man for the U.S. counternarcotics initiative at the American Embassy in Kabul, says the opium industry is "financing terrorism. "It's financing subversive activities. It's financing warlordism. ... And if it's a threat to the government of Afghanistan, it's a direct threat to the national security interests of the United States."Robert Charles, U.S. assistant secretary of State for international narcotics and law enforcement affairs, predicted a record opium poppy cultivation covering a cumulative area just less than 500 square miles — about the size of the city of Los Angeles.

This irony is nothing new for the Bush team and they have been asked about it regularly for years; "You ask what we're going to do and the answer is, `I don't really know,'" Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said recently."-(Washington Post Oct.3,2003).

Sources; http://www.unodc.org/pdf/afg/afghanistan_opium_survey_factsheet_04.pdf

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/13/opinion/13friedman.html?ex=1266037200&en=4befe43f2bb5a945&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/USAToday/724574821.html?did=724574821&FMT=ABS&FMTS=FT&date=Oct+27%2C+2004&author=Gregg+Zoroya+and+Donna+Leinwand&desc=Rise+of+drug+trade+threat+to+Afghanistan%27s+security+%3B+Lucrative+opium+business+may+weaken+democracy

http://www.adage.com/paypoints/buyArticle.cms/login?newsId=33931&auth=

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3224319.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2218488.stm


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Crosswords/2005/February/17

February 17, 2005

Quick crossword
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 * 1. Protocol to control levels of greenhouse gas (5)
 * 4. Be ashamed of oneself (9)
 * 9. Place of fertility in desert (5)
 * 10. Farmhouse, ranch (9)
 * 11. Title for nobility, esp judge (8)
 * 12. Actor commentaries to audience (6)
 * 14. Canine animals (4)
 * 15. Water mark on ship, ________ line (8)
 * 19. Drug (8)
 * 20. Supply for guns (colloq.) (4)
 * 22. Worship (6)
 * 24. Angle of aircraft and horizontal (8)
 * 26. Polynomial expression or equation of degree 2 (9)
 * 27. Cutting device (5)
 * 28. Skin (formal) (9)
 * 29. Think about, _____ on (5)
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Down
Answers tomorrow.
 * 1. Information; known details (9)
 * 2. Female hormone (9)
 * 3. To concern oneself with something at abnormal lengths (6)
 * 5. Explosive (4)
 * 6. Device reducing electrical current (8)
 * 7. In front of (5)
 * 8. Edges (5)
 * 10. Hand-me-down over several generations (8)
 * 13. Relating to fluid in the womb (8)
 * 16. Long, luxurious car (9)
 * 17. Describing brown bread (9)
 * 18. Jam (8)
 * 21. Joined together (6)
 * 22. Bad temper (5)
 * 23. Noted computer games manufacturer (5)
 * 25. Very small component (4)
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Talk:Chinese researchers crack major U.S. government algorithm used in digital signatures

I just changed the title of this article from this: "Chinese researchers crack major security code used in U.S. government digital signatures"

The old title is wrong for two reasons:
 * SHA-1 is not a "code." It is an algorithm. There is no encryption involved, so "code" is not correct.
 * The algorithm was created by the U.S. government, but it is used by the whole world in digital signatures. Thus, "in U.S. government digital signatures" is wrong.

Female
The fact that the cryptanalysts are female is fairly notable, so I put it back in. -- IlyaHaykinson 03:47, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:Altered HIV a potential cancer treatment?

"Neutered" sounds too informal for news use. Perhaps "disarmed" or "weakened?" T2X 15:02, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Possibly a better word to use would be "altered" Jonbro 19:45, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I like "altered". I'll change it. If anyone objects, it can be changed back. T2X 17:02, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)


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Countryside Alliance lose legal case on UK fox hunting ban

February 16, 2005 The British has lost its legal bid to keep hunting with hounds after the High Court rejected their appeal, which had been made on the grounds that the  1949 was invalid. The High Court rejected this, ruling that the 1949 Act was valid. This means hunting with dogs for foxes, hares and badgers will be illegal from Friday 18 February in England and Wales in accordance with the.

The Countryside Alliance has said it is challenging the decision in the (the highest court in English Law) and the.

The has said the arguments were “wafer thin”.

However the CA as said that the police would have difficulty in policing the law. The has said it is setting up a “crimewatch service” to police the ban.