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User talk:216.45.73.147

yes but if the entire nation think that it was facebook that saved them from an "Evil Dictatorship" then her name will be good she will not get teased i think you are being ignorant and concieted. Egypt's customs are not the same as ours so you cannopt judge them the same

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Thread:Comments:US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton criticizes Turkey over human rights concerns/Human Rights in Society/reply (12)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14227014


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Thread:Comments:Egyptian man names daughter 'Facebook'/This guy is clearly an idiot.

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Davie Shipyard sale cleared by Québec court

July 21, 2011 A Québec Superior Court judge has approved the sale of troubled Davie Yards to Ontario-based Upper Lakes Group in a decision handed down today in Québec City.

Davie has been in creditor protection since February 2010 and had been planning a bid for one of two contracts to be handed down as part of the Government of Canada's National Shipbuilding Procurement Strategy (NSPS). This plan had historically been cast into doubt as a condition of the bidding process was that the yards involved be financially solvent.

The deadline to submit bids is 14:00 Eastern Time (19:00 UTC) on July 21. Vancouver-based Vancouver Shipyards, and -based Irving Shipbuilding are also bidding for the NSPS contracts.


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User talk:AnonTwentyThree

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User talk:Morni~enwikinews

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User talk:Frank Wolff

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User talk:77.111.7.121

Our submission guidelines
I'd like to let you know that here at the English Wikinews, we only accept English language news. You've recently made contributions that don't qualify as news. We appreciate your contributions, but we cannot accept the edits you've made, so they have been reverted or deleted.

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Thread:Comments:Despite speculation, aides say Biden will remain on Obama ticket/joe vs hilary and the moral wounds of an extended campaign in 08/reply

Speaking of Hilary Clinton, I would support that she be put on the ticket with Obama. She has the qualifications, the popularity, the charisma, and the intelligence to do the job right. Obama/Clinton 2012!


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Thread:Comments:Despite speculation, aides say Biden will remain on Obama ticket/2016/reply

I frankly do not think that Biden will run for President. He has had too many gaffes and would be too old for it. And that is coming from a Democrat. I would support Cuomo in 2016. I would also like to see Bernie Sanders run in 2016. He is the best Senator currently serving.


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Former Louisiana governor Buddy Roemer announces run for president

July 22, 2011

Former Louisiana  announced Thursday at  in, New Hampshire that he will officially run for the Republican Party's presidential nomination in 2012. Roemer, who had explored a bid for the past several months, wants to focus his campaign on the issues of campaign finance reform and fair trade.

Roemer, 67, served four terms in the U.S. House of Representatives in the 1980s as a member of the. He was governor in 1987 and served once again as a Democratic Party member before switching to the Republican Party ahead of the. He lost the party's primary to, who is also considering a 2012 presidential run.

Roemer, who has $19,000 left from his exploratory committee, only accepts contributions from individuals below $100. He argued during his announcement that "I have deliberately chosen a path requiring the help of many because that’s the way to win and, more importantly, that’s the way to get these mighty things done after the election." He says he is waging his campaign against "special interests".

Political adviser who worked on Roemer's first gubernatorial campaign, argues that he "has an important message about the corrupt influence of money in politics" but complains that the media has delegated him as an "improbable, long-shot, third-tier, comic book" candidate. Roemer has not been invited to any Republican primary debates and usually polls below one percent.

He has based his campaign in the state of New Hampshire, where he leases an apartment, and plans to utilize a one-on-one strategy to build grassroots support. He enters a growing field of candidates that includes fellow former governors Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, of Utah and  of Minnesota, as well as Representatives  of Minnesota, Ron Paul of Texas and  of Michigan. Former  and businessman  are also running.

Roemer argues that "neither the president nor any of the other candidates for this office addresses or has solutions for the major problems facing America." But Roemer believes he does. He tells viewers to stay tuned to his campaign and that it will be something "you don’t wanna miss".


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Aaron Swartz arrested and charged for downloading JSTOR articles

July 23, 2011

Aaron Swartz, a fellow at Center for Ethics and an open source programmer involved with creating the  specification and more generally in the open culture movement, has been arrested and charged with wire fraud, computer fraud, unlawfully obtaining information from a protected computer, and recklessly damaging a protected computer after he entered a computer lab at  in Cambridge, Massachusetts and downloaded two-thirds of the material on, an academic journal repository.

According to the indictment, Swartz is accused of sneaking a laptop into MIT, hooking it up as a guest on the MIT network, and then running a script to download files from JSTOR. After being caught, Swartz returned the hard drive containing the downloaded documents to JSTOR who intend not to pursue civil litigation against him, but he has been indicted by the U.S. District Court in Massachusetts. He has been bailed on a $100,000 unsecured bond after pleading not guilty to all charges.

Swartz had previously downloaded around 20% of the U.S. Government's PACER database of court decisions, prompting the FBI to investigate his actions. In 2006, Swartz ran for the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees and also wrote an influential essay on "Who Writes Wikipedia?".

Following Swartz's indictment, Greg Maxwell, a contributor to Wikipedia and, has published a torrent on The Pirate Bay containing 33Gb of papers from the  that were published before 1923 and are thus in the United States, but previously only available at a cost from JSTOR.


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Thread:Comments:US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton criticizes Turkey over human rights concerns/Human Rights in Society/reply (13)

my brother in the capital of south africa, you made a very passionate (factual) situational description of the most atrocious crimes commited in johannesberg. Many times i wanted to go back to India. personal reasons and destiny kept me in UK. i never enjoyed life, gave my best of what i learnt in my profession to help fellow humans especially with greater needs- homeless, detainees in prison and police station; worked with people with addiction, which opened my eyes. My heart bleeds when people are slaughterd and tortured wherever in the world. I read the story of Gandhi, in south africa where he was ill-treated in his early years of Barrister Life and his 'non-violent' movement was his turning point which changed History. Nelson Mandela showed compassion to integrate the great country as a rainbow nation. My family lived in Durban and visited almost all the areas. I am going to listen to them. I believe in Destiny; i am not saying this to prove anything. if destiny leads me to serve in SA i am prepared for it. just think for a minute brother, what will be the fate of SA if Nelson Mandela decided to behave in the way of Robert Mughabe. you will not be able write this column. best wishes brother.


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Thread:Comments:US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton criticizes Turkey over human rights concerns/Human Rights in Society/reply (14)

MANY people all over the world think that mandela is a god and treat him like one. Well, I have news for them, the day he dies they will discover that he is not a god but was an ANC terrorist leader that killed thousands. Most of the SA people want the death penalty back, even those that opposed it in the past. Murderers here (IF they get caught) get a slap on the wrist and they commit the same crime again and again. Most of our jails are full of criminals but then they get parole or set free because it is the president's birthday and they murder again. Come to SA at your own peril, we are on the same way as Zimbabwe only much faster.156.8.251.250 (talk) 23:19, 21 July 2011 (UTC)


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Talk:Aaron Swartz arrested and charged for downloading JSTOR articles

JSTOR press release
In addition to the news sources provided, there is a press release from JSTOR. —Tom Morris (talk) 00:27, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * What is the source for the relationship to the case?  I can't find it mentioned in any of the sources. Mattisse (talk) 23:15, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It isn't listed in the sources: but that is what the issue is. It's common background knowledge for anyone who has been following along with online copyright/public domain stories like U.K. National Portrait Gallery threatens U.S. citizen with legal action over Wikimedia images. —Tom Morris (talk) 23:22, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know what the policy here is on original research, but don't you need a source? It's not common knowledge in the sense "the sky is blue". And "It's common background knowledge for anyone who has been following along with online copyright/public domain stories" is not "common knowledge" in the usual sense. So it is "because you say so" type knowledge? Just wondering, as maybe writers of articles here are allowed to use their unsourced personal knowledge. (I have never been allowed to do so.)   Mattisse (talk) 23:27, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * And it is rather like giving an unsourced legal opinion. Mattisse (talk) 23:33, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Look at Wikipedia: the case "ruled that exact photographic copies of public domain images could not be protected by copyright in the United States because the copies lack originality". It is precisely relevant to the stuff about Gmaxwell as it is exactly this point of law which is in contention. If you want a source for this, Wikipedia should do the job. —Tom Morris (talk) 23:38, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

 * How, exactly, does Bridgeman vs Corel apply when you're talking about text? As stated on the Water Cooler, there's a Wikipedia article; if it's well-sourced, use those sources. And, you'll be unsurprised to know I have been following online copyright issues. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:44, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Scanning a document in with a scanner is making, to quote Wikipedia "exact photographic copies of public domain images" and would per Bridgeman have a very dubious claim to "originality". The discrepancy between U.S. copyright law and U.K. copyright law (which binds the original publisher, the Royal Society) is exactly what Gmaxwell is exploiting. If this common sense observation falls outside the requirements of Wikinews' standards for publication... edit it out. —Tom Morris (talk) 00:55, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * If it is to be edited out, it is on the basis of not being sourced, or not being drawn from a static, reliable source. You can't use Wikipedia. --Brian McNeil / talk 01:57, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I edited it out. No sense in letting the whole article go stale over one detail. the wub "?!"  11:11, 23 July 2011 (UTC)


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British painter Lucian Freud dies aged 88

July 23, 2011

, the painter and grandson of the founder of, died Wednesday at his London home following a short illness. He was 88 years old.

Freud, the elder brother of the late comedic writer and broadcaster, was born in Berlin in 1922 and moved with his family to Britain in 1933 to escape the. He became a British citizen in 1939. He studied at the, then at the with. He also attended. After finishing art school, he spent some time in the merchant navy. In 1944, he started exhibiting with a solo showcase at the Alex Reid & Lefevre Gallery.

In the 1950s, his style changed to exclusively paint portraits and nudes. The process of painting for models was intense: one nude painting took 16 months to complete and Freud demanded her turn up almost every day to pose. His work was nominated for the in 1989, and he was a member of the. Most controversially, he painted a portrait of Queen Elizabeth II which was described by  newspaper as a "travesty", and prompted Robin Simon, the editor of the to say that "It makes her look like one of the royal corgis who has suffered a stroke". He also famously painted the glamour model nude, and was once named one of Britain's best dressed men in the magazine.

His work has sold for large amounts: Benefits Supervisor Sleeping, sold in 2008 at in New York for $33.6 million dollars. In addition, he has had solo shows at some of the most prominent art galleries and museums in the world including the, the in New York, and the  in Paris. , the director of the in London, said of Freud: "The vitality of his nudes, the intensity of the still life paintings and the presence of his portraits of family and friends guarantee Lucian Freud a unique place in the pantheon of late twentieth century art. His early paintings redefined British art and his later works stand comparison with the great figurative painters of any period."

Freud has at least thirteen children from a series of marriages and affairs: after an affair with the member, Freud married her niece Kitty in 1948 and had two children (Annie and Annabel) before ending the marriage four years later. He had an affair with Lady which turned into a marriage in 1953, although that was dissolved in 1957. He also had two children with Bernadine Coverly (, the fashion designer, and the writer ), five children with Suzy Boyt, and four children with Katherine Margaret McAdam (, an artist, Lucy Freud, David Freud and, also an artist).

External link

 * Selected works and photographs of Freud


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Thread:Comments:Libyan rebels in Misrata restrict press freedoms/A war not to be won, but rather maintained

As I see it, just like from 1984, the purpose of modern wars from the point of the superpowers is not to "win" by being victorious and ending the battle. The war is won the moment it starts as it is the war that is the aim. War is useful in so many ways, from controling masses at home or giving them something else to think about to the old "divide and conquer" stuff. I don't think Qadafi is a nice chap, but he's been is a ruller of a country for 40 years for a reason. If he was this much unwelcome, he'd be gone long ago.

I keep wondering how gently all this started - "no flight zone" :D Indeed it started before that with the rebels and I don't see it strange to hear comments that the rebels have been geared and motivated by western lobbies. No doubt there were reasons to rebel, but without support, these rebels would most likely just stay dormant and carry on as they did for so long. I think people are sheep and it takes quite some effort (or missery) to get them to move into something weird to a human soul like war.

Now NATO or what ever supper power could just roll over that damn rigid regime, but that is the last thing they would think of. They like it hot. At best, ballanced and bloody on both sides. The deafening noise and dust will cover their dirty machinations. War business is happy now, oil and construction businesses will get their share once there's not much more to ruin.

The same old story over and over again, the biggest obstacle is how to make it look like somebody elses fault.

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 * I'll try to clarify regarding the speedy deletion of your article. The notification I put here was a standard template and, admittedly, a bit on the cold side.  It's technically true —further spamming may result in editing privileges being removed, and the rest of it— but maybe I should have chosen a different template with a more positive focus.  Or written a customized note, which I'm doing now.

 * There are two different speedy-deletion criteria that could have been cited. There was, after all, only one external link, and although it makes the "advertising or spam" criterion valid, the article as a whole is informational — unfortunately, the nature of the information makes it inappropriate for a news site.  The oft-repeated maxim that applies is "Wikinews is not Wikipedia".

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User talk:Robajz

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Don't call me a sockpuppet. First of all, it offends me and second, I don't know what it means :D

So what's this censorship commando? One removes my vote - http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/The_Deleted_Bible , the other blocks my account quick enough... http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Log/block

0:41, 22 July 2011 Diego Grez (Talk | contribs) blocked Robajz (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of indefinite (account creation disabled)  (Suspected sockpuppet; blocking preemptively, as per suspicious vote in WN:DR; gonna file a CU request)

I'm not a sockpuppet guys! Now there's no information how to defend myself on those pages. Very motivating indeed... I had to bother a mail-list to get the magic unblock formula.

I've existed for long http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&username=Robajz&limit=1

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Great work guys I've followed this case for years as I was involved with it at an early stage. —24.85.77.183 (talk) 20:09, 22 July 2011 (UTC)


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Talk:British painter Lucian Freud dies aged 88

This article is not correctly sourced - how could it be passed?
Were the comments above taken into account. This articles is drawn partly from unsourced material from Wikipedia, and partly from who know where? Mattisse (talk) 22:17, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The only thing that wasn't sourced was the Sun thing. A source has been submitted. —Tom Morris (talk) 22:39, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Although you plagarized the BBC article sourced in the Wikipedia article, you still have not taken care of the other concerned raised about unsourced material, such as the thirteen children etc. raised above. Mattisse (talk) 22:40, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Did Tom plagiarise Wikipedia, or the BBC; or, are you just looking for an argument? The point within the article has been rewritten, and is neither the words of Wikipedia, the BBC, or the Sun. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:56, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Mattisse, what do you mean by plagarized?--William S. Saturn (talk) 23:02, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't bloody well plagiarise Wikipedia. I used facts from Wikipedia. Facts that are well sourced and non-contentious in an obituary. I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition. If you want sources for the fact that he had kids, they are footnoted in Wikipedia: here and here. Shame on me for using that evil, unreliable Wikipedia for all this utterly uncontroversial background material. —Tom Morris (talk) 23:08, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I mean you used, word for word, the BBC report, not even explaining what The Sun is, and there are a multitude of Suns in this world. You should not expect the reader to go to the wikipedia article to find the sources for a wikinews articles. This certainly means that in this case this article relies on the Wikipedia article, which I thought (perhaps wrongly) was frowned on here. In my opinion (obviously the minority) is that all sources for a wikinews article should be listed in the sources. I have been way too conscientious in the articles I have written for wikinews, put way too much work into them. According to this line of thinking, an editors first step should be to consult the wikipedia article (which I don't do) and crib from that. I only write articles from the sources I list. Mattisse (talk) 23:17, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I did not plagiarise BBC News. I took uncontroversial background facts from Wikipedia. Let me spell this out:
 * Wikipedia says this...
 * The highest selling tabloid newspaper, The Sun, was particularly condemnatory, describing the portrait as "a travesty".
 * The BBC says this...
 * The Sun calls the portrait "a travesty".
 * I said this...
 * Most controversially, he painted a portrait of Queen Elizabeth II which was described by The Sun newspaper as a "travesty"...
 * There are only so many ways of saying the same thing. Yes, it was a paraphrasing of Wikipedia unsourced. That is not the same thing as "plagiarism", that's a reuse of background material. Me not knowing that our rules are anal about sourcing is one thing, but plagiarism is another thing entirely. I accept I was a bit slapdash on the former (and hardly graceful about it after) but I did not plagiarise. Also, I think the word "newspaper" after "The Sun" kind of tells you that it is a newspaper. —Tom Morris (talk) 23:35, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Tom, don't beat yourself up over this; you, essentially, did nothing wrong – other than omit a couple of sources. Mattisse's ire should have been directed at Diego for giving the article a passing review with information that was not adequately sourced.

An obituary is a case where it is actually most important that sourcing is double-checked, and Wikipedia viewed suspiciously; such articles become targets for vandalism, some of which can be quite subtle.

In my opinion, the use of the word 'plagiarism' to describe any part of this article is a most insulting slur; were you a full-time, professional journalist, this would be one of the most serious allegations which could be laid against you. It is not the case here, nor - as far as I am aware - in any of your other submissions. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:14, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The editor of this article copied a complete sentence from the 2001 BBC article, not even bothering to link The Sun, since there are hundreds of newspapers with that name, or varying the wording at all. He did not source "travesty" but merely copied it from the wikipedia article. Likewise the pullquote, which Pi zero has removed. It was unsourced in any event in both the wikipedia article and the wikinews article. Glad the editor finally added a source for all those children after publication, although the added source says "atleast fourteen", rather than the figure reported in this article and in other ways The Daily Mail does not support the article. Did the editor who added it actually read The Daily Mail article before its publication?
 * Further, I am glad to know that it is ok to take (unsourced) "facts" from a wikipedia article, as was done here. Makes writing an article for wikinews a heck of a lot easier that all the effort I had been putting into writing articles here. Just go to the wikipedia article and cop that. I do not dare criticize Diego, as he blocked my nomination for reviewer, though he has been criticized multiple times for his poor reviews. Mattisse (talk) 13:59, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Before you, once again, repeat the allegation of plagiarism, please provide side-by side the text alleged to be copied. And, do not willfully twist what I have said to infer you may copy content from Wikipedia without fact-checking; this issue has been covered here, and on the Water Cooler, several people habve been chastised regarding this. Given the current disruption seemingly arising from inadequate reviews by Diego I will be asking him to stand for reconfirmation of his reviewer rights. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:53, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Mattisse, You are getting tiresome. If you think I have plagiarised something, please explain what. You said that I "used, word for word, the BBC report, not even explaining what The Sun is", and I've shown that with regard to The Sun's comments on the QEII pic, my words clearly differ from both Wikipedia and BBC News. So if you want to allege I have plagiarised, please tell me where or kindly retract the allegation. Also, if there are plagiarism concerns, may I remind you that there is an edit button. It is a wiki after all.
 * Regarding disambiguating The Sun, doesn't context do that well enough? A British painter does a painting of the British monarch, and a newspaper called The Sun (as I pointed out by including the word "newspaper" after The Sun) says something negative about it. What, you really think it was going to be the or the ? If you need a link to disambiguate, feel free to click that little button that says "edit" and add it. It is a wiki after all.
 * And The Daily Mail? Of course I didn't read that source. I wasn't the one who added it, as you could tell if you used the "view history" button which reveals the exact pattern of editing that led to the article as it currently stands. It is a wiki after all. —Tom Morris (talk) 15:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I added the Daily Mail source, but did not change 'more than thirteen' to 'more than fourteen' because 'more than thirteen' includes 'more than fourteen'. I believed that the author perhaps had an unlisted source that said 'more than thirteen', so I thought it best to err on the side of caution.--William S. Saturn (talk) 16:05, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

(Stepping back a bit to address the shape of this discussion rather than its content; I'm sure everyone will have one or another reason for yelling at me for this.)

Mattisse, you appreciate, I know, the importance of positive atmosphere to a wiki; you've commented on it many times, and seems to me you've contributed to getting us here into more of a habit of thanking each other for stuff, which had lately gotten scarcer than I remember it as having once been. (I'd rather see us thanking reviewers for reviewing an article rather than for publishing it, but that's a subtlety. :-) Here's a thought on the subject of atmosphere. Although we're necessarily very big at Wikinews on mutual (and self) criticism, how one says things can make all the difference in whether it helps, and causes people to do better, or merely creates an incivil atmosphere that discourages participation. Consider the different likely effects of the following styles of remark. --Pi zero (talk) 16:37, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) This work should have been done better; it isn't up to the standards it should be.  How can we (or, here's how we can) rectify this problem, and how can we (or, here's how we can) do better in future.
 * This is positive, and may have a good effect. The long-range objective is to cause people to do better (granting, occasionally withdrawal of privileges may have to be contemplated), and the short-range objective is to identify appropriate mitigating measures for the specific incident.  Even if the criticism were to turn out to be wrong, this style of criticism would help to minimize any offense taken.
 * 1) This work is crap.  The author/reviewer(/project) has no journalistic standards.
 * This is negative, and is unlikely to promote the objectives. Instead, it's likely to offend people, put them on the defensive so they feel like victims rather than feeling motivated to do better in future, and discourage them from participating.
 * 1) It's good to know Wikinews has no journalistic standards.  That will make it so much easier to contribute here.
 * This type of comment is, especially when repeated, poisonous to the project atmosphere.

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 * Corrected and sighted.--Bddpaux (talk) 21:05, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


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I am confident that mandela will agree even now, that he is not God. There is Democracy is South Africa. Democracy is about disagreement. People have freedom to express their own feeling and use different ways to change the society. Desmond Tutu cried at hearings of Aparthied enquiry'-Human atrocities. Do you say it is 'Crocodile tears'? You have the right to change the society. The Police Chief in Johannesberg mentioned that London (especially some areas like Brixton) is more dangerous than cities in SA. I work in London. Good luck to your wishes to take your Society in the direction you wish.


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At least 85 dead in shooting at Norwegian youth camp

July 23, 2011

A gunman, identified by Norwegian media as, has shot and killed at least 85 people at a youth camp on the island of in Norway. The 32-year-old man has been charged with both this attack and an explosion in the capital city of Oslo, which killed at least seven people. Police searched Breivik's apartment in Oslo overnight and have been interrogating him.

Breivik is reported to have arrived at the camp dressed as a police officer, telling children to gather around him for protection before systematically shooting them. It is not yet known whether he acted alone; police say there are no concrete reports of a second gunman, but this cannot be ruled out.

The camp was organised by the (AUF), which is affiliated with the. A number of sources, both inside and outside of Norway, are speculating that an opposition to the Labour Party's immigration policies, especially regarding Muslims, was Breivik's motivation for the attacks.

Islam is the second largest religion in Norway, after Christianity, and Breivik's comments on the political website Document.no, where he posted using his real name between September 2009 and October 2010, expressed anti-Islamic sentiments. He described the religion as a and compared it to. His Twitter account was used to post only a single comment, quoting philosopher : "One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests".

Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg, who described the island as "a youth paradise turned into a hell", reports that a number of children have not yet been located. He, and the families of some of the children killed, met with King, his wife , and their son , and was said to have been "deeply touched" by the meetings.

He also said that it is "too early to speculate" about the shootings, and that the police should be allowed to continue with their investigations before people "jump to any conclusions".

Breivik, who ran a farm, reportedly recently purchased six tonnes of fertiliser, which is speculated to have been involved in the making of the Oslo bomb.

The island of Utøya is closed to the public, and an official at the British embassy in Oslo does not recommend travel to the immediate area of central Oslo where the bomb was detonated. However, she is not discouraging travel to Norway, nor to Oslo.


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Talk:At least 85 dead in shooting at Norwegian youth camp

Broadcast report
I'm watching the live feed on the BBC News channel. I haven't taken anything from only there yet (I don't think I have, anyway) - if I do get anything from there, I'll list it below, but so far it's only been used to verify information from elsewhere (i.e., I know someone said something because I saw them say it on TV). DEN DODGE  George Watson  13:15, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * BBC News reports that members of the government were among those killed in the Oslo bombing. DEN  DODGE  George Watson  13:21, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Everyone the BBC has interviewed claims that the immigration policies are a likely motive. DEN  DODGE  George Watson  13:29, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Breivik is cooperating with the police, apparently. DEN  DODGE  George Watson  13:39, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The PM's comments regarding speculation were broadcast on TV. DEN  DODGE  George Watson  13:45, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The BBC reported Reuters's death toll orally. DEN  DODGE  George Watson  13:49, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * A British ambassador to Norway was interviewed on BBC News; her comments are the best we have, in lieu of any official release. DEN  DODGE  George Watson  14:18, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The BBC says the police have received no concrete reports of a second gunman, but cannot rule out the possibility. DEN  DODGE  George Watson  14:32, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

All information taken from broadcast sources is indicated with hidden comments in the page wikicode. DEN DODGE  George Watson  13:29, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

OR notes
Breivik's comments on Document come from this Google translation of http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/, where he posted using his real name. DEN DODGE  George Watson  13:58, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * OR = Original reporting = 'first-hand journalism'? I think this does not fit. Anyway - good article! --Itu (talk) 21:01, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Taking stuff from the place it was originally published, rather than from another news website that has synthesised it, is considered OR on Wikinews—it's not a policy I necessarily agree with wholeheartedly, but it makes sense and it's how it works here. DEN  DODGE  George Watson  21:17, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought OR reporting meant that the reporter (credentialed) was at the scene doing first hand interviews. etc. Not using Google translate (which I know from experience is poor) and using primary sources to create a secondary source. Mattisse (talk) 22:13, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Not by my understanding of policy. Taking stuff from secondary sources is synthesis, and taking it from primary sources is OR. This is a primary source. And FWIW, that was a very good Google translation indeed, and I was surprised at its quality - no -> en must be good. DEN  DODGE  George Watson  22:15, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * on Wikipedia is drawing conclusions from primary sources and publishing them as fact, without the validation of secondary sources (who have editors as gate keepers). Does wikinews have a lower bar for fact checking than Wikipedia. I though OR on wikinews meant that a credentialed reporter (from wikinews) was at the scene, conducting interviews etc. and publishing their reporter's notes on the talk page. No so? Any one can go to primary sources and synthesize without any secondary source to validate? Mattisse (talk) 22:35, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Explosion in Downtown Oslo should be merged/redirected
It seems that the article being created yesterday got totally unattentioned. It is actually the same event, though obviosly "forgotten" since the shooting got a higher magnitude. --Matthiasb (talk) 15:03, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It is a single short paragraph. I spotted it, but it covers a separate event to the shootings, and I assumed the original author would want to expand it. There is a hidden link in this article to that one in case it ever does get published.  DEN  DODGE  George Watson  15:08, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not considered a separate event by the Norwegian government, as the same suspect is arrested for both. More were killed in the island shooting, but the other incident involved a powerful bomb and damaged government buildings in Oslo, killing at least 7. The city blast happened first, so originally it was coveered as a separate incident. Now most news articles consider it related and the bomb as of equal or more importance, e.g. Your Take: Canadian in Oslo learns of Norway attacks,Norway attacks: ‘A nightmare,’ PM says; suspect identified; at least 92 dead, Blast rips out city's heart, Norway attacks shock, disgust Europe. I think this article needs to contain both attacks, as they are related and mostly likely committed by the same person.  Mattisse (talk) 15:32, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

 * Being related to each other doesn't require them to be in one article. There are two separate events that took place, there's no reason they can't be in separate articles.  The two being related doesn't keep them from being two.

 * One oughtn't be trying to change the focal news event of an article after publication. Put another way, as a rule of thumb if you want to add something to an article, and it would imply significantly changing the headline, you shouldn't be adding it to that article but instead should be writing a separate article.  What should go in the same article versus a separate article may be different after one article has been published.  --Pi zero (talk) 15:56, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry. It is hopeless now to correct. Mattisse (talk) 22:36, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Original reporting?
I agree somewhat with Mattisse's concerns. Could someone explain how this article qualifies as original reporting? Does watching television and using Google translate equate to first hand journalism? --William S. Saturn (talk) 22:54, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * According to current policy, yes. But since I am a "piss poor" journalist who clearly has no idea how Wikinews works, my opinion and interpretation of policy are meaningless and I'm only posting this to boost my edit count. DEN  DODGE  George Watson  23:38, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I did not mean to infer that you were a "pissport" journalist. What you did was done may times in the past. To me, OR on wikinews is very unclear. Wikinews goes through all this business of "accreditation" to be an "Or" reporter, but apparently either these standards are vapid, or mnany editors do not understand them, or the normal standard of journalism are not enforced. Mattisse (talk) 00:07, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * (ec) I did not make those accusations and do not agree with them. However, I did read WN:Original reporting and see no evidence that this constitutes original reporting. I would request that you either explain why you believe this is original reporting or remove the tag.--William S. Saturn (talk) 00:11, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I don't care either way. But the policy, as I understand it, is that taking anything from a primary source - i.e., not another news report - constitutes original reporting. If I'm wrong, the tag can go, but that's how it's been done in the past, such as with Cablegate when information from the cables was used directly and listed as OR. DEN  DODGE  George Watson  00:20, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * BBC News is a primary source?--William S. Saturn (talk) 00:22, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No. BBC News was listed as a broadcast report. Document.no is a primary source.  DEN  DODGE  George Watson  00:24, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm having trouble understanding how quoting from the google translation of a publicly available document is original. An important question to answer is: did you locate the documents yourself or were you directed to them by a news report? --William S. Saturn (talk) 00:35, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * There has to be some tag on the article since some of the source information is on the talk page, surely. So is the question here whether the tag should be original reporting or broadcast report?  --Pi zero (talk) 00:46, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * BBC News is a broadcast, so there should be broadcast report - I expect that is undisputed. The question is whether Document.no counts as OR or not. In the past, such things have been considered OR. If consensus has changed since the last time I wrote an article, I'm very sorry, but I was unaware of that. Feel free to take the tag off the article - it isn't something I feel at all strongly about. I was just trying to adhere to what I thought was common practice by adding the tag. If I did something horrendously wrong, I will happily admit it, and that's why I've put myself up for reconfirmation. Had I known it was going to be this controversial, frankly, I wouldn't have bothered in the first place - I spotted that Wikinews didn't have an article on a big news event and started writing one because I thought it was in the best interests of the project for me to do so. Since it has distracted everyone from news-writing and caused drama, my assumption was evidently erroneous, and I apologise. DEN  DODGE  George Watson  00:54, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

 * Dendodge, the problem isn't you. Don't lose your sense of accomplishment for the article; this to-do, not of your making, isn't worth it.

 * It seems reasonable to treat it as OR. And it got reviewed that way.  So let it stay as is, and be done with this.  --Pi zero (talk) 01:53, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was unaware of the Template:Broadcast report. That would certainly be appropriate here.--William S. Saturn (talk) 01:58, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It's already there, except in its inline form (broadcast-inline). DEN  DODGE  George Watson  10:23, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

New info on death toll
Norway police lower youth camp death toll to 68 This calls for a correction. --PeeKoo (talk) 16:58, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No, it doesn't. It calls for a followup. We can only rely on information that was available at the time the article was published. We do not have a crystal ball, and we aren't going to apologise for that fact. Feel free to write a followup, but there is no way a correction is possibly warranted in this case. DEN  DODGE  George Watson  19:40, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

See: Norwegian police lower death toll in massacre. Please expand and get published. --SVTCobra 19:47, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

 * If a followup is published, this is an occasion when it will be appropriate to use update. Whose notorious appearance should probably be... updated.  --Pi zero (talk) 19:58, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I have collapsed the above discussion, as it was generating far more heat than light, whilst not helping to improve this article (including my own comments in it, for which I apologise). As SVTCobra suggests: Let us concentrate on solving our immediate problem of getting Norwegian police lower death toll in massacre published. the wub "?!"  01:20, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

 * update added. --Pi zero (talk) 05:43, 26 July 2011 (UTC)


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Way to keep with the notion that "Wikinews is a place for news about Wikimedia"


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Singer Amy Winehouse dies at age 27

July 23, 2011 British singer died today in her London home in Camden Square, aged 27. The cause of death is not yet known and is being treated as "unexplained", according to the metropolitan police.

"On arrival, officers found the body of a 27-year-old female who was pronounced dead at the scene", said a police statement on their website. An ambulance was called to her address where paramedics reported her dead on the scene at around 16:00 local time (15:00 UTC) in London.

Winehouse previously had problems with drugs and alcohol and checked herself out of rehab in June.

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Review of revision 1262833 [Passed]
This comes across sounding like single-source: The lede starts with 'so-and-so is reporting that...', implying that the only reason to think the focal news event has happened is that one source has said so. --Pi zero (talk) 17:43, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Fix'd アンパロ Io ti odio! 17:46, 23 July 2011 (UTC)


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She should have said "yes, yes, yes"


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Thread:Comments:At least 85 dead in shooting at Norwegian youth camp/MYSTERY & AFTERMATH OF OSAMA ASSASINATION

I am not intersted in Politics but observe Human nature and trying to learn History. This is how I see the recent episode, which is the consequence of the Domino effect. A Western Super Power made an error judgement by invading a Sovereign Nation and carried out a Public Assasination of an Individual allegedly responsible for committing heinous crime. (As a consequence many independent sleeper cells are woken up and running amok in the World). Recent public admission of innocent children killed due to technical error enraged victims. (Alternate Media channels are fuelling hatred towards the Western World and trying to make a political point). Recent request for removal of UAV Base in a Soverign Country was ignored. A north African Sovereign Country's invasion was justified by U.N(not unanimous due to African Council, China and Russia opposing/abstaining). That leader warned about dire consequences. There is no point in verbal condemnation of  Terrorism  when Kamakazi style sympathisers take indiscriminate violent repraisal. Selfish arrogant Modernity has devalued Fellow Human Life and justify collateral damage. Humility and admission of Guilt and Public Stance for Global Truce can only salvage the Planet from escalting disaster. Hiroshima & Nagasaki were vitims last time. '''It is never too late to learn lessons. Leaders who have Blood in their Hands must come together(non-egoistic & breaking political stalemate is mandatory).''' Initial meeting will be to forgive and forget the past, shake hands and agree to disagree. Global misery is imminent otherwise. The Country which always took the lead for other national and international peace-treaty has been a Victim now. It is time for the Nobel Peace Prize Winner to take the Noble Action NOW.


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'''THE WORLD LEADERS SHOULD ACT. WORDS ARE INADEQUATE AND IMMATURE '''


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The whole world Media seem to be debating this issue


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Two shot outside Los Angeles nightclub

July 23, 2011

A gunman shot and injured two men early this morning outside the Vault XXI nightclub in the district in Los Angeles, California.

Lieutenant Paul Vernon of the says the two men are in critical condition.

Witnesses say the two men, both Asian and in their 20s, were smoking outside the club when a man wearing a ski mask approached and shot the two around 1:30 a.m. local time (9:30 ). The men suffered multiple wounds and crawled into the club.

Police believe the shooter was possibly Asian and was about five feet seven inches tall. Investigators say there were ten bullet casings at the scene from a semiautomatic firearm.

Lt. Vernon said, "We’re lucky more people were not injured in this attack. It appears the victims were targeted by the suspect as they stood at the entrance to the nightclub."

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It was also Tony Blair, among others.


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Thanks! I had to resist suggestions to make it all about Rupert Murdoch, as the political and police corruption is the underlying issue. One man can't control a country's press unless the politicians and police allow it.


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I'll take that as a compliment!


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The sovereign State is entitled and bear the benefit or brunt of Guilt (if the Victim is innocent) by eliminating the wrong life and letting the real culprit unpunished. Some mistakes in the History of Forensics & Legal system have been recorded in History of Criminal Justice System. You can not bring back the extinguished innocent Life.


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In the rapidly changing political situation, panic is inevitable. One does not want to leave power too easily especially after been in that situation for too long. Would you?


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Train accident in China kills at least 43

July 24, 2011

Two high-speed bullet trains crashed close to in the  province of eastern China on Saturday. At least 43 passengers were found dead and over 200 are injured, according to the China state-run news agency, with 12 in critical condition.

The collision occurred on a bridge after one train was struck by lightning, forcing it to stop, and was subsequently struck by a second train around 2030 local time (1230 UTC). The trains involved were the D3115 service from to, the train that was stopped at the time of the collision, and the D301 service from Beijing to Fuzhou.

As a result of the collision, two cars from the first train fell off the bridge, as well as four cars from the second train. One of the cars landed on its side, and another ended up lying vertically against the bridge. According to, a state-run broadcaster, upwards of 1,400 people were on the two trains: more than 900 on the stopped train and more than 500 on the second one.

One passenger, Liu Hongtao, is reported as saying: "The train suddenly shook violently, casting luggage all around. Passengers cried for help but no crew responded."

The government have said they will be launching an "urgent overhaul" of rail safety following the crash, the first derailment since the introduction of 155 miles per hour high-speed rail service in China four years ago, and three railway officials were also fired by the ministry of railways, which said the officials may be investigated.

On Sunday, rescuers found a small child unconscious in the wreckage, about 21 hours after the crash, who was sent to a hospital. According to a rescue worker, the child, four years old, "could still move his hands" when he was located.


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Protests over housing costs sweep across Israel

July 24, 2011 Israelis have been gathering across the country to protest against the rising costs of housing, with "tent cities" being erected in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem,, Haifa, and. On Saturday night tens of thousands marched from the encampment on Tel Aviv's, which has been a focal point for the protestors, to the Tel Aviv Museum.

Rents in Tel Aviv are said to have risen by over 60 percent in four years. Buying costs have soared too, with estate agent Eli Melloul stating that the average price for an Israeli apartment has now reached 1 million shekels ($295,000). The demonstrators are urging the government to intervene and help reduce prices. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has pledged swift action, including streamlining planning and building regulations, and constructing 6,000 housing units. However none of these units are set for Tel Aviv. Some are calling for him to resign over the issue, and several members of the Knesset also joined Saturday's march.

The protests have largely been composed of young people and students, organised using social media such as Facebook. They follow a recent Facebook campaign to boycott cottage cheese (a staple food in Israel), which succeeded in driving down prices. Elderly people have also begun to join the movement to show their solidarity.

Daphni Leef, credited with starting the protest movement, addressed the crowd at Tel Aviv Museum. "Under these conditions we will soon have no dreams", she said. "There is no time to dream when you're constantly looking to cover your rent. There's no time to dream when you're constantly looking to cover a mortgage."

She also blamed Netanyahu personally in her speech: "You, Bibi, with your wild policy and your irresponsibility, you pushed us into a nadir. You, Mr. Netanyahu, caused us – the Facebook generation – to head to the streets and protest."


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