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Fishing project article
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New Zealand's telecommunications ranks low in OECD

April 16, 2007

The New Zealand Commerce Commission, who promote competition in the New Zealand market, have released a report today that has shown that New Zealand's telecommunications sector is very expensive compared to other OECD countries.

In the report, the Commerce Commission ranks various call plans, both cellular and landline, with other similar plans in the OECD.

United Kingdom company, Teligen did the data gathering in November 2006. All prices exclude G.S.T. (Goods and Services Tax).

The following data is for low mobile user plans. One of Vodafone's mobile phone plan titled Vodafone Base 20 costs NZ$299.54 annually, which was given a rank of 22 out of the other 30 OECD countries. One of Telecom's plan titled Telecom FLEXI Mytime costs $336.11 annually, and is ranked 26. Another Vodafone plan, Motormouth Prepay costs $386.85 which gives it a rank of 28. Telecom's Go Prepaid Mates' Rates plan costs the same amount as Vodafone's Motormouth and thus has the same rank. Note, some of the above plans are set contract plans, which means they must be subscribed to for a set amount of time, and have other restrictive terms.

The following data is for medium mobile user plans. Vodafone Base 60 costs an annual amount of $598.01 which gives it a rank of 25. Vodafone Choose 60 + Your Time + TXT 100 costs $660.94 each year, which gives it a rank of 27 internationally. Telecom's FLEXI Anytime costs $811.29 with a rank of 29. Again, some of the plans above have restrictive terms and a set term contract.

The high user market plans follow. The Vodafone Choose 120 + Your Time 100 + TXT 100 costs $886.56, which gives it a rank of 23. The Telecom FLEXI Anytime plan is the most expensive in New Zealand costing $1,368.63 each year. It is also ranked at the bottom of the OECD at 30.

The landline plans did not fare any much better, or worse, than the mobile phone plans.


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User talk:Bhaskarningombam~enwikinews

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Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

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Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

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User talk:RealDemonstration

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Talk:Canadian activist June Callwood dies at 82

"Her two sons, Brant Frayne."

Who's the other?
 * The other was Carey, who was actually killed over 20 years ago in an accident, so she is survived only by Brant. —Zachary talk 13:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


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2007 Cricket World Cup: Australia vs Sri Lanka

April 16, 2007

Australia have beaten Sri Lanka by seven wickets in the Super 8 phase of the World Cup at Queen's Park, St. George's, Grenada. Both teams had qualified for the semi-final stage of the competition before the match.

Sri Lanka faltered early in their innings, struggling to 27-3. Silva (64) and Jayawardene (72) shared a fourth-wicket partnership of 140 to help Sri Lanka to 167-4. However wickets fell regularly after that, losing their next five wickets for just 17 runs, before Bandara and Maharoof's late stand of 34. Nathan Bracken was the pick of the Australian bowlers, taking 4/19.

Australia were never troubled by the modest target and a bowling attack missing Muttiah Muralitharan, Chaminda Vaas and Lasith Malinga. They reached the target of 227 in 42.4 overs for the loss of just three wickets. Ricky Ponting was Australia's top scorer with 66 off 80 balls while Andrew Symonds scored 63 off 71 balls. Sri Lanka's best bowling performance came from Russel Arnold with 2/20.

Toss: Sri Lanka won, and elected to bat first.

Fall of wickets: 1-26 (Jayasuriya, 4.3 ov), 2-27 (Sangakkara, 5.3 ov), 3-27 (Tharanga, 6.4 ov), 4-167 (Silva, 37.2 ov), 5-174 (Jayawardene, 39.4 ov), 6-178 (Dilshan, 41.0 ov), 7-183 (Arnold, 42.4 ov), 8-184 (Kulasekara, 43.3 ov), 9-218 (Bandara, 49.0 ov), 10-226 (Maharoof, 49.4 ov)

Fall of wickets: 1-76 (Hayden, 11.5 ov), 2-79 (Gilchrist, 13.3 ov), 3-126 (Clarke, 23.1 ov)

Did not bat: B J Hodge, M E K Hussey, G B Hogg, N W Bracken, S W Tait, G D McGrath

Australia: A C Gilchrist (wkt), M L Hayden, R T Ponting (capt), M J Clarke, B J Hodge, M E K Hussey, A Symonds, G B Hogg, N W Bracken, S W Tait, G D McGrath Sri Lanka: W U Tharanga, S T Jayasuriya, K C Sangakkara (wkt), D P M D Jayawardene (capt), L P C Silva, T M Dilshan, R P Arnold, M F Maharoof, K M D N Kulasekara, C M Bandara, C R D Fernando

Player of the match: N W Bracken (Australia)

Umpires: Aleem Dar (Pakistan) and B R Doctrove (West Indies) TV umpire: M R Benson (England) Match referee: M J Procter (South Africa) Reserve umpire: D J Harper (Australia)


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alcoholism support group - are thes groups that support alcoholism? That doesn't sound like a worthy cause to support. Perhaps the terminology can be rephrased

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NHL: Ducks take commanding three game lead on Wild

April 15, 2007

''Ducks lead series 3-0. (Best of Seven)''

The Minnesota Wild fell to the Anaheim Ducks on Sunday, putting their season in jeopardy. Anaheim needs only one win in any of the final four games to win the series and the right to move on to the Western Conference Semifinals. The Wild have been close in every game of the series, but have fell short each time.

Minnesota coach said: "Everyone was saying, 'Shoot the puck! Shoot the puck!' on the bench and then they went back on the ice and they didn't shoot it," coach Jacques Lemaire said. "The guys recognized the mistakes we were making and couldn't adjust."

Andy McDonald gave the Ducks the lead in the first, scoring on the power play to give the Ducks the early advantage. Ilya Bryzgalov would help the Ducks' cause, stopping 19 of 20 shots faced. Rob Niedermayer got his first goal of the postseason in the third period to double the Ducks' lead. Petteri Nummelin scored the only goal for the Wild with :39 remaining in regulation, which wouldn't be enough time to mount a comeback.

Sunday's loss beckoned in do or die time for the Wild, who must win Tuesday, when Minnesota will host the Anaheim Ducks. If the Wild cannot pick up a win in Tuesday's game, the series will be lost, as well as Minnesota's season.

Three Stars of the Game

 * #1 =, C, Anaheim Ducks - 1 Goal
 * #2 =, D, Anaheim Ducks - 2 Assists
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33 dead, 15 injured in Virginia Tech shootings

April 16, 2007

Two shootings at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia have left 33 people dead, gunman included, in the deadliest civilian shooting in the United States. A further 15 people are being treated in a hospital. According to police, the gunman committed suicide.

At a 4:45 p.m. EST press conference, it was stated that no names of the injured or killed will be released soon. According to the press conference, the shooter shot and killed two people at an on-campus dormitory in a "domestic dispute." He then walked to the other end of the campus and began to open fire on students.

Locations
Two separate shootings are reported to have taken place; one at 7:15 AM at West Ambler Johnston Hall, a co-ed dormitory, and one at about 9:30 AM EDT in Norris Hall, an engineering building on the other side of the campus. In the week preceding the shooting there had been two bomb threats directed at Virginia Tech; the first at Torgersen Hall, the second at multiple engineering buildings. The university had offered a $5,000 reward for information on these threats.

Police do not know if the incidents are connected and are trying to establish a link.

West Ambler Johnston Hall
Two people, one male and one female were shot and killed at West Ambler Johnston Hall, in what police initially were led to believe was a domestic incident. That building was secured immediately by police, who had "reason to believe " that the gunman had already left the building.

Police, who were hiding behind trees and other cover at the time, told students to "get out of there". Matt Waldron, a student at Virginia Tech, claims that two students panicked and jumped out of the top story of West Ambler Johnston Hall, which houses at least 895 male and female students out of Virginia Tech's student population of over 26,000. One student broke his leg, while another was described as "not in good shape".

Norris Hall
The second shooting occurred approximately two hours after the first at Norris Hall. In this incident 31 people died, including the gunman. Police indicated that he had taken his own life.

Video taken from the cell phone camera of Jamal Albarghouti watches police move into position as 27 shots (some fired in continuous bursts) are fired inside Norris within the small time it was recording. The weapon or weapons involved have been speculated to be either a pair of 9mm handguns or a single 9mm handgun with a .22 caliber handgun, although the police declined to reveal the weapon or weapons used by the shooter.

The video also gives a loud bang at the end. This has been speculated to be some kind of an instrument or tactical explosive used by police (the doors to Norris Hall were found to be chained), or whether it is a separate weapon used by the shooter is still unclear.

Officials believe that the shooter at Norris Hall was an Asian male in his 20s who was wearing a maroon cap and a leather jacket.

Aftermath
The university has canceled all classes, and is urging students to stay indoors and away from windows, even though the police had already taken one person into custody. The university also requests that "persons off campus not come to campus".

A message posted on the Virginia Tech web page said that classes will be canceled today and tomorrow. Faculty and students have been told to evacuate the campus. All 23 schools in Montgomery County, VA, are on lockdown.

President George W. Bush was made aware of the shootings and according to the White House said, "thoughts and prayers for those who are dealing with this." Senate majority and minority leaders Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell led a prayer service and moment of silence for the faculty, students, and everyone at Virginia Tech during the Senate floor session. House speaker Nancy Pelosi led a prayer and moment of silence on the House floor.

Charles W. Steger, President of Virginia Tech, said the following in a news conference:

Today, the university was struck with a tragedy we consider to be of monumental proportion. There were two shootings which occurred on campus. In each case, there are fatalities. The university is shocked, and indeed horrified. I want to extend my deepest and most sincere and profound sympathies to the families of these victims, which include our students.

At about 7:15 this morning, a 911 call came to the university Police Department concerning an event in West Ambler Johnston Hall. There were multiple shooting victims. While in the process of investigating, about two hours later, the university received reports of a shooting at Norris Hall. The police immediately responded. The shooter in Norris Hall is deceased. There are multiple fatalities. The number of fatalities has not been confirmed, victims have been transported to various hospitals in the immediate area and the region to receive emergency treatment. We will proceed to notify the next of kin as the victims' identities are available.

In a press conference aired on television, President Bush said "Schools should be places of safety, sanctuary and learning, when that sanctuary is violated, the impact is felt in every American classroom in every American community."


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Talk:33 dead, 15 injured in Virginia Tech shootings

Shouldn't this article be titled 32 dead?
as title states. I have not heard of a 33rd deceased yet.

 * The 33rd is the shooter himself, Cho. --SVTCobra 01:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I had heard he killed 31 and then he was the 32nd.

Where's the 20 number coming from?
Where's the 20 number coming from? 24.27.18.25 16:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Press conference. —Zachary talk 16:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yup sorry my bad has page been moved back?--Mark Talk 16:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yup. —Zachary talk 16:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Where's the Injured List? I Need that pronto!!! One of my friends goes there!! And who's the Idiot that put 1337 up there?

calm down the injured list wont come out for quite a while due to the protection laws. just be patient and try to contact your friend yourself for reassureance. or his parents to tell them about the incident. i think (if they dont know yet) it would be best for them to know.User:Maverick423

 * I moved this discussion down from the top of the page into a topic below if this is ok with people. Sifaka 20:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Attribution
I did some fact-checking.

 * The part attributed to FoxNews lacks specific citation. Just in case I can easily identify, I checked FoxNews' online report and one video that included phone interview with a stuent, but they do not seem to match with what is written in this article.
 * I removed this part, and notified the original contributor. Tomos 18:05, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * "Resident advisor" is reportedly killed, according to this article. Upon searching Google News and Fox News, I see no such information.
 * I removed this part, and notified the original contributor. Tomos 18:05, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I heard this on a live broadcast on FOX News (I edited this part in before creating an account) and added it here--because of the chaos going on at the time, I'm sure them claiming that the resident advisor dying was a misquote. Sorry about that! Seanutbutter 02:05, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * "get out of there" quote is not found in Google News, either.
 * CNN report cited included substantially the same information. So I take it confirmed. Tomos 17:46, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Tomos 17:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Casualties
Can anybody clarify the number of casualties? BBC News 24 has been saying 29 are "reported to have been killed" although the article on their website (which IME is usually not as up to date as the TV) says 22. Guinness2702 18:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * BBC are now saying ABC say 29, and Fox (apparently quoting federal sources) say 32. Guinness2702 18:05, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I think a reasonable approach is to cite specific sources with timestamp. When different sources present different figures, we can mention the difference without asserting which of them is true. Tomos 18:08, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

 * BBC Now say 31 dead (quoting AP)....go figure Guinness2702 18:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * ...and the web article is now saying the same, although they say 10 injured, not 29 like the WN article. Guinness2702 18:42, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Fox is now siting Federal officials at stating the number of causalties is up to 32 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266310,00.html
 * Yeah, CNN saying the same too - 32 including the gunman Guinness2702 19:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Speakers from the University Press Conference at Virginia Tech confirmed that there were 33 fatalities, 2 from West Ambler Johnston Hall, and 31 (including the shooter) at Norris Hall. FBMrider86 20:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I just watched that conference...there is NOT 33 dead,...confirmed is 31. DragonFire1024 20:54, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

 * VA Tech official website confirms 33 dead. FBMrider86 20:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I watched the conference too - there were 31 dead at the 2nd location (Norris Hall) plus two more who died at West Amber. Guinness2702

The press conference had a lower figure for injuries (something like 15) but I forgot it. Definitely less than 29 tho'. Can anyone remember the number? Guinness2702 21:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Got it now, it was 15 - source BBC News 24 replay of earlier press conference. Guinness2702 21:48, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Change article name
Article title should be renamed to "Virginia Tech Massacre". 67.71.155.212 18:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No disagree as said on 'pedia it violates NPOV--Mark Talk 18:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We prefer informative titles rather than POV ones that spark emotions. Neebs 18:35, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I disagree with the rename, just because I am generally opposed to renames of breaking news as a pain in the arse. However WRT use of the word 'massacre' - well, from wiktionary: "To kill in considerable numbers where much resistance can not be made; to kill with indiscriminate violence, without necessity, and contrary to the usages of nations; to butcher; to slaughter; -- limited to the killing of human beings." - I don't think there's POV there, really. Guinness2702 18:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well firstly do we know for sure that the killings were "indiscriminate" and also i agree that titles should be informative not emotional.--Mark Talk 18:41, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * e.g. Gunmen with rocket-launchers massacre 60 at market in Mahmoudiya, Iraq. But I was going to say that we should have a title without a number until a final number is known. --SVTCobra 19:02, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Article Title should be changed to remove victim count. Number is still rising and no title no longer reflects current totals listed in the article.  65.244.115.198
 * The Saint Valentine's Day massacre was seven people. All that is required for a massacre is multiple helpless people killed, generally by a smaller force.  That being said, I believe the standard terms are "shooting" and "killing".  --205.201.141.146 19:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Im gonna have to say that its not the best title. if i may suggest i would say "Gunman goes on largest shooting rampage in United states history in virginia techRankun 20:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)rankun
 * As true as it may seem, that is a little over dramatic for a title IMO. DragonFire1024 20:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, now the numbers have been confirmed, I suggest "33 die in shooting at Virginia Tech" Guinness2702 21:09, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

All top television networks, the BBC, and other major outlets now call it “massacre”. “Shooting” fails to distinguish a category in where nobody may have died. With 3177+ articles Google News shows enough coverage that “Virginia Tech” ought sufficiently identify events, and opening the story as such lets “college in USA” drop from the title. As of Apr 17, 00:55 (UTC), after some debate, Wikipedia now reconciles a name for events and calls it “Virginia Tech massacre”. An appropriate headline might go “33 dead, 15 injured in Virginia Tech massacre” JohnLam 06:13, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

pov sentence
"This is the deadliest mass shooting in the history of the United States." sounds pov even though it might be true. Please change the wording if this is not true. If it is, we should cite our source that said it for NPOV reasons. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  20:03, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The worst school shooting was Columbine...this IS the worst school shooting in US history...not sure about the world. DragonFire1024 20:24, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I guess it depends on how you define your terms. (I would say the Battle of Gettysburg is the deadliest mass shooting in the history of the United States.)  Qualifying it with "deadliest school shooting" would be better, since it's (a) objectively more deadly than Columbine, and (b) there are plenty of sources calling Columbine the country's deadliest school shooting (google "columbine deadliest").  --kh
 * I am speaking school shooting...not wars or battles. DragonFire1024 20:35, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The Washington Post here uses exactly that phrase. The New York Times here says "what appears to be the deadliest shooting rampage in American history, according to federal law-enforcement officials." Guinness2702 20:44, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Live footage was taken by students
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199001329&subSection=News DragonFire1024 20:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia
Please use sources other than Wikipedia as Wikipedia will be using news sources just like we are. Plus the article on WP is supposed to be speedy deleted...according to WP editors. DragonFire1024 20:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * My sources came from news articles, not wikipedia. It was merely copied from Wikipedia, which is not copyrighted, since this article is lacking information about the said topics. I think my edits should be restored. Furthermore that article on wikipedia is not going to be up for speedy deletion at all. I am not sure how you came to that conclusion. Sifaka 20:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * pls see: User_talk:FellowWikiNews/Archive_1. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  20:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Shooter Name
I believe William Morva is the gunman associated with an earlier Virginia Tech shooting that took place a few months ago, not this one. 4.159.249.26 20:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, that should be removed. Ycanneh 20:42, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Correct. According to the press conference I'm watching now via teh BBC interwebs, they "have not identified the shooter as he had no identification on him". Guinness2702 21:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Original
I added a statement from the live news conference that started at around 4:40 p.m. [EST]. "no names of victims will be released". DragonFire1024 20:47, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Please KEEP original reporting template.. info from live conferences is considered OR. DragonFire1024 21:19, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Missing information. Description of the shooter and locations of the shootings
This should be added into the article. Sifaka 21:05, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The first shooting happened at West Ambler Johnston Hall which is a a co-ed dormitory that houses 895 students around 7:15 AM EDT. One person was killed and up to four others wounded. The next shooting happened at several classrooms in Norris Hall which is an engineering building. (sources http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/16/vtech.shooting/index.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6560685.stm)
 * One eyewitness described the shooter as a young Asian man wearing a maroon cap and either a black leather jacket or bulletproof vest. He committed suicide inside Norris Hall by shooting himself in the head. He is though to have to have used either a 9 mm caliber handgun and a .22 caliber handgun or two 9 mm caliber handguns to carry out the shootings. (Sources http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18134671 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/16/us/16cnd-shooting.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3045574 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18134671/)
 * I think WP:BOLD applies here: You can add it yourself :) Ycanneh 21:05, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Original Reporting
Please provide original reporting notes below per WN:OR. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I've already commented on a lot of stuff in the casualties section above + edit comments for earlier edits. Guinness2702 21:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * My OR is from the Live press conference by the college. DragonFire1024 21:41, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * BBC News 24 is quoting the daily express as saying that 2 people died jumping out of the window to avoid being "executed" - is this good enough to include in the article now or should we wait? Guinness2702 21:59, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Statement to Use?
http://asherheimermann.wordpress.com/2007/04/16/virginia-tech-shooting/ Is this something we should use or not? 67.36.86.100 22:46, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * IMHO, no. It's essentially POV, and it is neither notable, nor does it add anything newsworty. Guinness2702 23:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. I thought - because it's being updated and it's real. Thanks anyway. 67.36.86.100 23:15, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Quotes
A number of so called 'quotes' are indeed direct quotes. It's just that the source is TV and hence no web link can be given - see the Original Reporting stuff above. Guinness2702 23:44, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I removed the following
''Although no bombs have been reported at this time, neither were any bombs reported at Columbine until after tactical response arrived on the scene. The original plan layed out by Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold was to bomb the cafeteria using two IEDs and gun down the survivors, and police had to disarm almost thirty 'uncooked' bombs found inside the school, as well as shooter Dylan Klebold's car set with an explosive to detonate at 11:56 PM (faulty wiring switched AM and PM; Klebold planned to keep police busy with that while he and Harris began the massacre).''

In my view this does not belong. --SVTCobra 00:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * This has no relevance to the shooting at Virginia Tech. It definitely doesn't belong! Nishkid64 00:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

People Hurt
May I ask how the number of 15 is found? I thought that it was 29, per this website 65.43.22.156 00:10, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well one, this website is a blog, with no links to where he got his information. IMO this is NOT a reliable source. DragonFire1024 00:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You can even go on Wikipedia and it's there... Duh! 65.43.22.156 00:29, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but if you follow the reference at the wikipedia page, you'll find that the source no longer reports that number. But I noticed that almost no current MSM page mentions the number of wounded/injured anylonger. That seems curious. But to answer your question, the only reference I found (among the updated ones) was an "at least 15" so to use 29 is not proper until you find a credible source. --SVTCobra 01:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


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Hello. I was reading the Virginia Tech shooting story, and noticed that the part attributed to Fox News did not specify the source sufficiently. I tried to confirm the information through Fox News' web site and other sources via Google News, but nothing turned up. So I removed the paragraph. (See this [diff http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Shooting_at_Virginia_Tech%3B_at_least_22_dead&diff=prev&oldid=404664].)

I think that part is your contribution, so I thought I would let you know. It would be nice if you can find where the information comes from and add that back in. --Tomos 18:03, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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NHL: Canucks steal series lead from Stars in overtime

April 15, 2007

''Canucks lead series 2-1. (Best of Seven)''

An overtime goal by Taylor Pyatt at 7:47 of the first overtime gave the Vancouver Canucks a 2-1 lead in the best of seven series on Sunday night.

Dallas scored first through Stu Barnes when he redirected a long shot by Stephane Robidas past goalkeeper Roberto Luongo. Philippe Boucher earned the other assist on the goal.

Marty Turco looked to be headed for his second consecutive playoff shutout, but Jan Bulis dashed his dreams 5:18 into the third period as he put home a rebound from a shot by Jannik Hansen. Vancouver outshot the Stars 15-4 in the third period, but had a scare when Roberto Luongo was hit by Ladislav Nagy. A trainer came on to assist Luongo, who had fallen on his back, but he was able to continue.

Taylor Pyatt then put the game away in overtime on a one-time shot off a pass from Bryan Smolinski.

Three Stars

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 * #2 = Matthias Ohlund, D, Vancouver Canucks
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User:Sifaka~enwikinews

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Virginia shootings
hi, i've had to remove ur addition to the article as Wikinews articles are not meant to have editorial comment in them. see the Content guide.–Doldrums(talk) 20:11, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

 * A list of what you wrote is here.

QUESTIONS A lot of this information is simply not known yet. The Wikipedia article has some info. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_shootings Also, check the discussion page. Several people have asked similar questions. Sifaka 20:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Why wasn't the campus shut down after the first shooting?
 * If it was just one shooter, how did he get between buildings? The university has a very large military training contingent. Many people there are familiar with firearms. Virginia is a concealed carry state. Why does the university not allow concealed carry on the campus? Is this somewhat hypocritical?
 * Obvious questions concerning motive, and background of the shooter.

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Copying Info From Wikipedia
Please refrain, it makes us look like a mirror. Ycanneh 20:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

 * More importantly, their GFDL license prevents us from redistributing the content under our cc-by-2.5 license: in other words, it's against the rules.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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Comments:33 dead, 15 injured in Virginia Tech shootings

At least 32 dead
Fox News, Matt Drudge and ABC news are saying at least 32 dead already and expecting a higher number.

The above discussion were copied from Talk:Shooting at Virginia Tech; at least 22 dead/Comments.

Shooting at Virginia Tech; at least 31 dead should be Shooting at Virginia Tech; at least 33 dead

The above discussion were copied from Talk:Shooting at Virginia Tech; at least 31 dead/Comments.

Whoever would do something like that is very sick and demented. 151.196.183.248 22:31, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Can you believe that @#%$er Jack Thompson's trying to blame it on video games?--67.72.98.116 03:31, 17 April 2007 (UTC) No, bowling is to blame. --60.35.141.174 06:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. -Etafly 06:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, doesn't he blame all violence on video games? Funpika 10:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not entirely convinced the timing of this was coincidental. I don't want to sound callous, but the 8th anniversary of Columbine is this Friday. Raan0001 20:21, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


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Kenya's Cheruiyot and Russia's Grigoryeva capture Boston Marathon crowns

April 16, 2007 Kenya's Robert Cheruiyot won the men's division of the 111th running of the Boston Marathon finishing with a unofficial time of 2:14:13 seconds. This is Kenya's 15th win in 17 years. It is also Cheruiyot's third Boston Marathon win and second consecutive win. Cheruiyot first won in 2003, then again last year and setting the current course record of 2:07:14. He was able to win despite a slick, wet road, fierce winds on the final stretch and headaches that have plagued him since suffering a concussion sliding across the finish line in the Chicago Marathon last year after a fall. "When the lion is chasing the antelope, he doesn't look back. He has to eat, so when I run, I don't stare at my time," stated Cheruiyot.

Russia's Lidiya Grigoryeva captured the women's division crown with an unofficial time of 2:29:18. This is her first Boston Marathon win and Russia's fourth win. She beat last year's champion Kenyan Rita Jeptoo and the American favorite Deena Kastor, who was born in Waltham.

Japan conquered the wheelchair divisions winning with Masazumi Soejima capturing the men's wheelchair crown with an unofficial time of 1:29:16 beating South Africa's Ernst Van Dyk who hoping to tie with the current Marathon record of seven total wins. Van Dyk won the Marathon's men's wheelchair division from 2001 through 2006. Wakako Tsuchida won the women's wheelchair division with an unofficial time of 1:43:29. The two wins were Japan's first in the wheelchair divisions.

The weather was of some concern due to the fact a Nor'easter pounded the area the night before that forecasters were predicting to interfere with the race. However, by morning the weather was calm with a temperature of 52 degrees Fahrenheit and some moderate rain leaving the road slick along with some stiff winds at starting line in Hopkinton. However, the sun made an appearance during the race. However, the winds did slow down the runners somewhat. Others did not turn up at all, Marathon officials reported that 2,449 of 23,903 registered runners did not pick up their bibs.

Local inspirational icons, Team Hoyt, made up of Dick and Rick Hoyt did not take part, due to the fact, Rick Hoyt, who was diagnosed with cerebral palsy at birth could not compete as he was recovering from surgery and a infection in his hip.

The Marathon winners receive $100,000 USD as first prize and a olive wreath.


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Syrian bomb blast
As well as the review template on this I've added some points on the article's talk page. None of the raised items are real showstoppers except the lack of a second or more sources.

When you are looking for a second source, make sure it is used. Ideally you find two sources then start the story after you've read them. This helps more with the issue of not being accused of copying. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:51, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Matthewcl375. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Matthewcl375~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:21, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:34, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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User talk:Sittingnut

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! DragonFire1024 02:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
 * Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced
 * Introduction - overview of the site
 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
 * Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
 * Contents - the contents page.
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * If you're interested in audio recordings, Audio Wikinews could always use more contributers
 * And of course, stories need writing!

title: User talk:Sittingnut