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Scientology protest group celebrates founder's birthday worldwide

March 15, 2008

The Internet group today held further protests critical of the Church of Scientology.

The global protests started in Australia where several hundred protesters gathered at different locations for peaceful protests.

In a global speech, the Internet protest movement said Scientology "betrayed the trust of its members, [had] taken their money, their rights, and at times their very lives." The protesters welcomed the public interest their protests have led to, and claimed they witnessed "an unprecedented flood of Scientologists [joining] us across the world to testify about these abuses." The group said it would continue with monthly actions.

In a press statement from its European headquarters, Scientology accused the anonymous protesters of "hate speech and hate crimes", alleging that security measures were necessary because of death threats and bomb threats. This also makes the Church want to "identify members" of the group it brands as "cyber-terrorists".

Wikinews had correspondents in a number of protest locations to report on the events.

Anonymous states that the next protest is scheduled to take place on April 18, which happens to be the birthday of Suri, the daughter of Tom and Katie Cruise.

, Australia
 reported that approximately 200 masked protesters gathered outside of the Church of Scientology's headquarters in Adelaide. An anonymous spokesman told News.com.au that their group feels Scientology should not have tax-exempt status, and should not be considered a religion. At one point six police officers came by the protest; four members of a security firm stood outside the Scientology building throughout the protest.

Adelaide Gallery

 * Adelaide protest in pictures

, Georgia

 * Main article: Protesters arrested at anti-Scientology event in Atlanta

In Atlanta, police arrested two protesters for, supposedly, using a bullhorn without a permit although reports confirm that there is no law or ordinance in Atlanta necessitating one. The police were under the impression that they were arresting the leaders of the protesters. The anonymous protesters reacted by shouting that they have no leader, but they made no attempts to free those arrested. The police also pulled over cars for honking at the protesters, causing them to make signs "Do not honk".

Austin, Texas
Volunteer Correspondent: Bhig3

Almost 135 protesters protested outside of the Church of Scientology location in Austin, Texas. Protesters received a permit to protest from 11AM to 4PM and stayed the full time allowed. Law enforcement officers were stationed outside the doors of the Church. These officers were very kind and open to conversation with Anonymous members. Protesters gathered across the street from the building as well as directly in front of it, waving signs and chanting. A UHaul van was converted to a Party Van which was eventually parked directly in front of the Church building for most of the day. Reports of Scientologists calling the UHaul company office, illegally claiming to be police officers, reached protesters soon after the van was parked. The protesters responded with a loud speaker saying "Impersonating a police officer is illegal, even on the phone!"

Around 2:30PM a young man arrived in front of the Church to counter the Anonymous group with a yellow sign reading "Freedom of [Religion]" on one side, and "It's Their Choice" on the other. He began by calling out "It's their Choice" to which the protesters across the street replied "We Agree" and then "Right to join, Right to leave!" Some Anonymous members swarmed over to confront the man, but were restrained to one-on-one talks with him by another Anonymous member. He later left the area after talks with the protesters.

BBC News drove by taking video of the protesters, but did not stop for interviews.

, Massachusetts
Correspondent: TUFKAAP

Over 250 protesters were out in force once more on the corners, at 's Scientology church at the corners of  and Hereford Streets. Protesters only took up three corners, instead all four like they did on February 10th as police asked them politely to leave the street in front of Church vacant. Even though the protesters had a permit for all streets, they complied.

Wikinews talked to the and was denied a video statement by one officer telling the reporter, "Get out of here," and brushing him off. However, the reporter asked another officer if there had been any trouble. The officer responded that there had been "no trouble, just people walking back and forth." Most the protest consisted of protesters handing out information pamphlets, DVDs, viral marketing cards for their campaign, talking to pedestrians who were passing by, shouting to one another and shouting various chants.

Some Anonymous put forward concerns about Scientology plants in the crowd trying to incite disruption, however, none was noted. Other protesters mentioned there were rumors that the Scientologists were going to bus in Scientology students to disrupt the protester, however, that did not occur.

Scientologists were outside taking photos of the protesters, unlike February 10th, where they remained inside and photographing from the building. The Wikinews reporter asked a Scientologist why he taking pictures, he took the reporter's photograph and noted that he "was just taking pictures." Wikinews asked a church member if he would like to give a statement to Wikinews on camera, they denied the request and told the reporter they would send a statement via email to him. However, Wikinews has not yet received a statement from the Boston church.

 * YouTube video of TUFKAAP's report

Boston Galleries

Other Boston galleries

 * flickr page
 * maj gallery
 * another flickr page
 * another maj gallery

, Belgium
Correspondents: Brian McNeil and Steven Fruitsmaak

Starting off from a meeting point at the, the anonymous protesters proceeded on foot to arrive at their licensed protest point outside the around 12:30 local time. The turnout was about half that of the previous protest with only 20 or so people present.

Per advice from the police, cake was not on offer. It had been pointed out that this would likely get the protesters overrun by children and vagrants. Unlike other countries, Belgium has laws prohibiting protesters to cover their faces, leaving the protesters to wear sunglasses and shawls.

The protest could not take place in front of Scientology's headquarters because an E.U. summit was scheduled to continue until today. Scientology members were allowed to be active outside their headquarters, for their "open door day". No special activities inside their building was observed, just volunteers handing out flyers to perhaps a dozen passers-by. The press release for this open door day was devoted to Anonymous: "Anonymous", a group of cyber-terrorists hiding their identities behind masks and computer anonymity, has targeted the Scientology religion, its Churches, leaders and parishioners with hate speech and hate crimes. ... Death threats and threats to plant nitroglycerin bombs in Churches have made it necessary to take security precautions and identify members of this group responsible for these crimes.

The Scientologists said the event was inspired by the, which is however remembered on December 10 (also mentioned on the flags outside their office, see photo). The was established on March 15 (2006), a date closer to this weekend.

Wikinews spoke to a Scientology representative in the European headquarters, which are located in the political heart of Brussels; Law Street, just next to the Belgian and European parliament. Since Scientology was devoting the afternoon to human rights, we asked for Scientology's opinion about human rights controversies in the United States (such as the detainees). The representative told Wikinews that the Church is a religious movement and avoids taking general political stances.

The representative was also confident about the outcome of a pending lawsuit from the Belgian federal prosecutor. After an eight-year investigation, the Belgian justice said that the local and European chapters, as well as, members would be accused of blackmailing, swindling members, breaking trade and privacy laws, unlawfully practising medicine, and forming a criminal organisation.

"The file is empty," said the Scientology representative, who asserted that the inquiry had been so lengthy because the state could not prove any wrongdoings by the Church. He said that unlike in the US, Scientology is not seeking official recognition in Belgium, which recognises only six religions. He also claimed that there were more than 1,000 Scientologists in Belgium. Anonymous distributed flyers and informed passers-by about Scientology. In a speech, they called for a dialogue with Scientology members, and said they were concerned for the parishioners' well-being: To the Scientologists who fear us: You have nothing to fear from our peaceful protests. We are here because we care about you. We demonstrate only against the abuses of the Church management and we stand by your individual freedom of religion.

Operation: Party Hard - expect us, with cake was closed off with a birthday cake for the protesters.

Belgian media were in attendance with a film crew from interviewing several of the protesters and capturing their banners on tape. The slogans were mostly in English, ranging from "Religion is free, Scientology isn't" to "One billion years of servitude = super powers" — the latter a reference to the contracts that Scientologists sign when they become involved with the church's.

The police presence was low-key with only one senior officer and a member of the who took photographs.

Brussels Gallery

London, England
Correspondents: Adambro, Skenmy, JamesHarrison Once more, protests took place outside of both the Queen Victoria Scientology Headquarters and the Tottenham Court Road Dianetics centre. The additional time available for protesters in the aftermath of a rushed February 10th protest allowed the many of Anonymous to expand their protest to include even more outreach towards members of the public, with Anonymous members handing out free cake, sweets and other confectionery along with leaflets and stickers to passers-by.

Signage was loud and varied, proclaiming a variety of messages to the public and Scientologists. Many of the signs declared amusing yet pointed comments, with others making more serious jabs at the Church of Scientology.

Despite a larger police presence at the Tottenham Court Road protest, the protesters and Scientologists were both peaceful. Police officers, when asked if they had had any problems with the protesters, replied, somewhat jovially, "I can't really speak to you, the only thing I can say is 'No comment'. No problems. I mean no comment." Interview This interview was carried out with members of Anonymous at the Tottenham Court Road protest. Church of Scientology representatives refused an interview and have not made any comment at the time of going to press.
 * What has the public's reaction been to the protest, and what are your views on it?

 * Anonymous Member 1: Lots of people have been taking leaflets, you can see some people stopping to look at signs, it's very interesting. The ground covered- from nothing to this in six weeks is stunning. It's an internet phenomenon, definitely. It's people around the planet, they've suddenly realised they can communicate, and I think the whole Anonymous thing is the start of something different, it definitely feels like something's happening.

 * In terms of Anonymous's lack of organisation as a collective in their protests towards the Church of Scientology, how do you feel about that and how has it really come together?

 * Anonymous Member 2: Well, everyone here is an individual, there's actual people behind the masks, even though we all look like the same person. As far as Scientology is concerned, I can't really say what any one person's motivations are because we don't have motivations as a group. Everybody is here as individuals, and for their own reasons... I think the great thing is the fact that with all our individual motivations and reasons we still manage to come together; we're a ton of people from the Internet, we don't know each other in real life; and we get together and have this kind of giant protest. It's amazing.

 * In terms of the Church of Scientology as an entity, what's your personal motivation- as a member of Anonymous- for protesting against the Church?

 * Anonymous Member 2: Personally, the thing I feel most strongly about is the way they abuse their members. Cases like Lisa McPherson, for example, and people in camps, and all the people who have died as a result of the Church's actions.That, I think, is the biggest thing for me. But there's also their status as a religion. Well, really, it's not. It's a business, and they need to acknowledge that.

 * What would you say are the main objections of Anonymous against the Church of Scientology?

 * Anonymous Member 3: I honestly can't speak for Anonymous, I can only speak for myself, and I believe that the Church of Scientology's fight against civil liberties in this country is something that has to be protested against. That's why I'm here today.

Reporters also spoke with members of the police:
 * How has it been to work with a group like Anonymous?
 * Met. Police Officer: It's been fine, there's been no problems at all.

London Gallery

, England
Correspondent: Anonymous101

The protest started at approximately 11:00 local time with protesters saying that over 100 people have turned up to protest for at least part of the protest. It started at Deansgate, which is the same location as the one for the start of the February 10 protests. Members of Anonymous have told Wikinews that their members started arriving at 09:00 local time.

Protesters were holding placards with statements such as “Freedom of religion - A right / Freedom to oppress - A crime.” Placards asking “How do I anger seasoned Amnesty International prize winning journalist, John Sweeney?” were also held as part of the protest. John Sweeney was heavily featured in the UK press after he produced a documentary in which he claimed representatives of the Church of Scientology were constantly following him.

As with the other protests, protesters brought cake, as a result of it being close to the birthday of L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology.

One of the protesters told Wikinews that “The so-called Church of Scientology's multiple violations of the U.N.'s Universal Declaration on Human Rights have gone unnoticed and unchallenged for far too long.” He continued saying that “the corporation needs to learn that suppression of free speech, institution of forced labour and the more general suppression of its parishioners is both legally and morally wrong. The protests will continue until such a time that major changes are made to the Scientology's organizational structure, or until they meet accusations of wrongdoing head-on and provide evidence that the community's worries are unfounded.” He added that he was “not protesting against the religion of Scientology, but the corporation that delivers it.” Interview This interview was carried out yesterday with two of the Manchester protesters.

 * Why do you consider it important to take part in the protests?

 * Anonymous Member 1:We consider it important to take part, most of us are regular Internet users who believe in free speech. The CoS [Church of Scientology, ed.] has on numerous instances suppressed the flow of information regarding any of their criticisms or more esoteric beliefs. Examples include the ARS newsgroup during the 90s, and the recently leaked Tom Cruise video.
 * We are taking part to demonstrate our beliefs that freedom of knowledge and information are basic human rights. Most of us have also done our own research regarding the CoS, and come to the conclusion that it is a malign cult, that harms its members and tries to subvert public opinion to further its own ends.

 * How many people do you expect to attend the protests worldwide?

 * Anon. 1: No real way of knowing until the day and head counts are done, but we are hoping to exceed Feb 10th due to a lot of Anonymous members not turning up due to fear of retaliation, laziness, or generally not being sure of what to do. Videos of the Feb 10th have shown how peaceful yet fun the protests are, so we are hoping to do quite well on the 15th.

 * Why are you protesting against CoS?
 * Anon. 1: We are protesting the CoS, not the religious doctrine itself. Whilst many of us may disagree with some of the faith's tenants, we believe freedom of religion is every person's right. However the CoS uses this sacred human right to perform immoral and illegal actions, whilst labeling anyone who criticises it as Religious bigots, terrorists, or criminals.

 * Many people consider some of the actions taken by anonymous illegal. Do you think your actions are justified?
 * Anon. 2:The problem with this question is the way Anonymous is organised, as it isn't organised. It's just a collection of people from various corners of the Internet. If someone makes a threat to the CoS and says they're Anonymous there's nothing we can do to stop them saying that, Anonymous doesn't have a membership card.
 * Anon. 1: Yes.

Manchester Gallery

, New York
Photographer: rankun

, New York
Correspondent: DragonFire1024
 * (Videos of the protest in Buffalo)

Throughout the day, nearly 100 protesters including ex-Sea Org Scientology member Chuck Beatty, turned out in Buffalo with signs and enthusiasm. It was a cold and foggy day with temperatures in the low 30's (F) which is significantly warmer than the previous February 10 protests that drew only about 50 people. People filled Main Street across from the Church in a line which extended an entire city block. A radio was on hand playing 'Rick Roll' and also the audio recording of the Scientology interview with.

The day started off with an off duty Buffalo Police detective instructing the crowd to protest peacefully. The detective, who was identified to Wikinews only as 'Detective Tim' then immediately told protesters to remove masks that could be considered threatening. Scarves were allowed as it was a cold day, but bandannas were not permitted to be worn.

Wikinews was earlier accused of being "fake" and Detective 'Tim' refused to give a statement to Wikinews saying "no media. You made that (press badge) from the Internet. I never seen this site before." 'Tim' then refused outright to give his last name and badge number. 'Tim' was quoted only during his time speaking publicly to the protesters.

Shortly after instructing people to remove masks, 'Tim' then accused a member of Anonymous of "portraying an terrorist" because of a scarf he was wearing and asked him to remove it.

Shortly after, at least three protesters were detained by police and questioned after taking photographs and video of the Church from across the street. Police approached the three and began to "yell" at them. 'Tim' then told one protester that "the Church want you arrested. Now how am I going to avoid that." The protester then willingly handed over his videotape of the church and asked not to be arrested. Subsequently all three were released without being charged. According to Detective 'Tim', "the tape is now the property of the police." The protesters were not on Church property and were only filming the areas of the Church visible from across the streets.

During the protest, a member of Anonymous read a speech, which according to him, was a worldwide speech to all Churches.

"Today - The Ides of March - is the day Julius Caesar was betrayed by those he trusted. Today we gather together as Anonymous to call attention to another betrayal of trust - that of the Church of Scientology upon its followers. Since is inception, Scientology has traded in false hopes and promises, betrayed the trust of its members, taken their money, their rights, and at times their very lives," said the statement.

"Last month 10,000 people demonstrated in one hundred and seven cities across the world. They came together to make the first breach in the wall of silence," added the statement.

Despite the incident, 'Tim' was friendly to the protesters, even stating that "he might be back later to have a few cupcakes."

According to a member of Anonymous, "we will come again, our numbers ever increasing, in April, May, June and July."

Buffalo Gallery

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The protest in Louisiana was expressed by Anonymous as a "full win."

One protester reports: "I was the first Anon on the scene and one of our friendly city Police officers was sitting in front of the Church of Scientology waiting for us. I went over and spoke to him for a bit. The officer asked me if I knew the rules and I said that we couldn’t block traffic or pedestrians. I also stated that we were to remain peaceful and not cause a disruption. He told me that we were welcome to stand on the median in the middle of the street where the streetcar runs or across the street but we couldn’t stand directly in front of the Scientology center. While there is a public sidewalk in front of the Church, I wasn’t going to make an issue about it. The one thing that stood out the most about this officer was that he said that he was there to protect our rights of free speech.

"I waited around for about 15 minutes before my fellow Anon started showing up. We went to the median and setup. At this point the officer came over and talked to us as a group (6 of us at this point). He said that he got off at 4:00 a.m. and this was a detail for him. He asked us what our protest was about because he wanted to understand what he was guarding. We gave him some fliers, discussed our presence there, and asked him to do some research on the net. He thanked us for talking to him and said that he would look the information up.

We had a lot of honks from cars passing by. Unlike last time the streetcars were running and we were able to hand fliers to the people on the car as they passed. One of the streetcar drivers even stopped so that she could get a flier.

There were a couple of Scientologists from the February 10 protests that took a few pictures, but for the most part they stayed inside. The one big confrontation that we had was from a Scientologist mom with her kids in a minivan. She pulled to the end of the driveway and was talking on her cell phone. One of our guys kept trying to direct her into traffic when it was clear. When she did finally pull out she stopped and blocked two lanes of traffic to tell us, "What do you know about Scientology!" We said that we knew plenty cause it’s all over the Internet. She made a few other mean comments then the police office started his siren cause she was blocking traffic. She finally moved and went to the U-turn lane over the median and stopped. One of our Anons went over to hand her a flier while I walked behind to film. She started asking, "Why are you trying to make fun of me when I have kids in the car?" I said, "We weren’t making fun of you we were trying to be helpful.” We traded a few other words which will be on the video when I post it. The police officer pulled up in his car behind her and hit the siren telling her to move it along. She stuck her head out of the car and said, "They were shouting obscenities at me." This to which the officer said, "I didn’t hear any obscenities move along NOW!"

After she left, she drove down the street where some members of Anonymous were getting materials from their car. At this point she started to harass the members, and she insisted on remaining next to their car. Fearful for the car's safety, the Anonymous member moved it closer to within site of the protest.

Our cake showed up around 1:00 p.m. It said: 'Happy Birthday L. Ron from all of your SP’s.'

Around 1:45 p.m. a Transit unit police officer pulled up on the median and told us that we were causing a disruption by being on the streetcar line and that our presence there was a liability to the city. I mentioned that we had been told that we could be there by the other officer. He stated, "I’m not trying to restrict your right to protest or your free speech but you are causing a disturbance on the streetcar line and you will have to move to the sidewalks." The rest of Anonymous figured it was time to go and headed off to an after party in the French Quarter.

I walked over to the first police officer to thank him for his presence today. He thanked me for our keeping things civil. He said, "Well you’ve been out here for about three hours. Hopefully you’ve got your message across."

Overall, the reception in New Orleans was very positive. Members of Anonymous got many passersby interested in the effort, as well as lots of supportive honks from passing vehicles. -->

, Washington
Correspondent: RoninBK

The Seattle protest was divided into two halves. One group was to assemble at, and would march from there to the Scientology site. The other group was to meet at the Seattle Center, closer to the site, disseminating fliers to the crowd.

Protesters began to gather in front of Westlake Center at about 9:30 PDT. with about a dozen protesters at first. One of the protesters revealed to me that he was a 30 year former member of the Church of Scientology from the Los Angeles area. He asserted that "this protest is just." He spoke of former members who have been afraid to come out, because of the continuously reinforced teachings of the church. Members are cautioned against looking onto the Internet for alternate information, that they could die if they were to even look at the Internet. The mind is trained not to seek out any information that could contradict the church's teachings. He said that if the Scientologists ever knew what really happens in the church management, they would be terrified, and turn away in droves.

Other members carried picket signs and leaflets. Early on, many of the crowd members were chatting with each other, sometimes taking pictures of each other. Passers by gave the assembled crowd mixed reactions to being approached. One of the members of the public expressed concern that a protest in Seattle would not do much, "They oughta be picketing Tom Cruise's house."

Curiously, a few members actually took pictures of me standing off to the side with my camera. A few accused me of being from the church, attempting to gain identifiable information, and were therefore cautious. Others saw me as the only person around without a mask, and in this crowd I was the outsider. At about 11:00 PDT, the crowd started to proceed north, up 5th Avenue in downtown Seattle. At no point did I witness any of the Anonymous group committing a crime. I however, could probably have been cited on multiple counts for jaywalking, in attempts to get a decently framed shot from my digital camera without being seen as marching with the crowd. Numerous car horns blared during the crowd's exodus down 5th Avenue. As the street took a turn north, the crowd passed Fischer Plaza, home to local ABC affiliate KOMO-TV. I noted that I had not seen any mainstream media coverage of the event. The march turned down Broad Street, and at this point I gave up trying to keep pace in front of the crowd. I pulled over to the side of the sidewalk, next to a chain link fence to get the last photos of this phase of the protest. Afterwards, I followed the procession as it turned onto Aurora, and reached the Scientology center.

The center itself is situated on one end of an overpass, Aurora Avenue crosses over Mercer Street here, and eastbound traffic on Mercer was treated to a large banner proclaiming "HONK AGAINST SCIENTOLOGY" The banner generated a considerable number of car horns, which resulted in an equal number of cheers from the crowd. On the north side of the center, more protesters positioned themselves around the parking lot. Very few members were visible, for a long time there was only one standing near the entrance back in a fenced off area. Members of the crowd would level jeers at the man, such as "What are your crimes?" Eventually two police officers arrived, who stationed themselves in the parking lot, observing the crowd and calmly turning back any protester who crossed into the parking lot with a warning. No Scientology personnel approached the crowd, or a member of the press.

Seattle Gallery

Sydney, Australia
The protest in Sydney gathered approximately 300 activists. The masked protesters gathered in Hyde Park and moved through the city to the Church of Scientology. Two large trucks obstructed the view of the Scientology office from across the street.

Sydney Gallery

, Oregon
The protesting began at 10:30, and was quieter than the 10 February event, with about 100 protesters. Initially, all of the protesters were on the side of the street opposing the church, but later someone suggested loudly to cross over and soon both sides of the street had protesters, many right in front of the church. The protesters walked through the middle of the road, contrary to guidelines stated for the 10 February protest. This resulted in some booing from the protesters that didn't cross.

Police showed up at one point, and asked a few protesters (walking right through them) to clear a driveway.

Portland Gallery


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Talk:Scientology protest group celebrates founder's birthday worldwide

Just to Clear something up
The news article currently states that "The global protests started in Australia..." However, do not forget that New Zealand kicked off this world wide protest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.80.142 (talk) 04:05, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Coordination page created
I have created Wikinews:Story Preparation/Wikinews international report: "Anonymous" celebrates L. Ron Hubbard's birthday/Coordination to organixe the coverage. It is moved from skenmys userspace. --Anonymous101 Talk 17:47, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Semi-protect?
So will this be semi-protected soon? Cirt - (talk) 08:14, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Live updates
I will obviously not be able to edit Wikinews from the protest but I will be posting live updates at feed://www.mailinator.com/rss.jsp?email=jw-protestcoverage. Please note that any updates from me will have (email address removed to stop spammers)@googlemail.com : Wikinews Protest coverage as the post title. Any other message titles will mean the message is nnot from me. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 08:29, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Note that the feed has now been emptied due to the automatic deletion of posts after a few hours. If you want to see my posts click here. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 16:42, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Note
(I also added this to the top of the article, commented out.)

NOTE: Please DO NOT contribute original reporting about a particular protest if you have attended that protest in the capacity of a participant. Please only contribute to this article if you attended a protest solely in the capacity of reporting on that event, or if you did not attend a protest at all feel free to contribute material from secondary sources. Thank you.

Cirt - (talk) 08:52, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

OR Notes for Manchester
I got most of the information from the event but the part saying " Members of Anonymous have told Wikinews that some of their members started attending bars in the surrounding area at approximately 09:00 UTC." is from info i gathered on the Manchester protests IRC. DESPITE MY USER NAME I HAVE NO LINK WITH ANONYMOUS. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 09:18, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I would love to help you with Manchester but I think it would be a conflict of interest. -Shifty looks- Fallen-Griever - (talk) 23:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I was at the protest and did two headcounts - the first at 11pm, was about 150 people. The second at 1pm, was about 190 people - can someone change the figure of 100 listed in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.88.91.224 (talk) 11:42, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Note re: sources at Wikipedia
Note: You may be able to find additional (or perhaps the same) secondary sources related to this event, at w:Template:Project Chanology protests, March 15, 2008, and/or that page's talk page, as well. Cirt - (talk) 09:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Seattle protest coverage
I am preparing right now to head down to the Seattle Center this morning, with a digital camera and a notebook to document the local protest. Is there anything that I need to know before I go? (I assume that I'm too new here to get any sort of press credential,) --RoninBK - (talk) 11:04, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

images
Although my camera is broken, I am working to get photos for the Mancheter protests. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous101 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

London Media
I've thrown some images from the 15th into the London image category over on the commons, and I'll start throwing some content at the page soon. Still, if anyone wants to get cracking, there's some decent enough pictures in there to get started with.--JamesHarrison - (talk) 18:27, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Global speech
Available here: http://forums.enturbulation.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=5709&sid=085c5fe376455c6e5698596adfe8e82d

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:23, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

"Today - the Ides of March - is the day Julius Caesar was betrayed by those he trusted. Today we gather together as Anonymous to call attention to another betrayal of trust - that of the Church of Scientology upon its followers. Since its inception, Scientology has traded in false hopes and promises, betrayed the trust of its members, taken their money, their rights, and at times their very lives. The Church has - and continues - to lie to them and the world. The Church betrays its members when secrets harvested from spiritual counselling are used against them as blackmail and evidence in court. The Church betrays its members when they demand members disconnect from family and friends who question the church. The Church betrays its members when they discourage the taking of prescribed psychiatric medications, a practice which has led to a number of shocking murders and suicides. In the month since our first worldwide protest, there is a new public consciousness about the crimes of the Church! We have seen an unprecedented flood of Scientologists join with us across the world to testify about these abuses. To the Scientologists who fear us: You have nothing to fear from our peaceful protests. We are here because we CARE about you. We demonstrate only against the abuses of the Church management and we stand by your individual freedom of religion.

We urge you, Scientologists, to re-examine the facts you have been told. How is your money spent? Why does your leader, David Miscavige, demand so much of it? WE have our OWN Miscavige – Jenna Miscavige Hill, David’s niece, who stands with us today. Your anti-psychiatry front group, the Citizens' Commission on Human Rights, is led by Bruce Wiseman. WE also have our own Wiseman – his daughter Kendra Wiseman. They have joined the voices of other ex-Scientologists whose stories of abuses have been lone voices in the wilderness for too long.

We Anonymous, wait for the day when, like the Berlin Wall, the wall of silence around the LIES of the Church of Scientology will fall. Like the East German government of the past, the Church of Scientology has its own secret service to spy on its own members and outside critics. It encourages its own members to betray others for being “out ethics”. It blackmails members. It commits atrocities through the operation of church prisons and slave camps, under the guise of the "Rehabilitation Project Force." Members of the Sea Org have been forced into accepting abortions against their wishes. "Upstat", privileged members have abused women and children with impunity. And the Church has attacked its enemies with frivolous lawsuits, harassment, kidnappings, and countless suspicious deaths.

This world holds no place for organized crime perpetrated on this scale. Last month ten thousand people demonstrated in one hundred and seven cities across the world. They came together to make the first breach in the wall of silence. Today we are on the streets again, our numbers ever-increasing - and we will come again in April - in May - in June - and July. We will come until that wall of silence is RUBBLE!

We are Anonymous. We are legion. Expect us!"

Server seems to be crashing. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:25, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

New Orleans
The New Orleans entry is very POV ("Scifags") and should be removed immediately. I'd do it myself, but I don't want to be banned for blanking.--75.67.24.169 21:18, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

 * You can "hide" stuff without removing it like this: . If you edit in good faith and provide an edit summary explaining your motives, you won't get blocked. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:24, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

 * The person who wrote this section was at the protest and wrote it in a first person point of view. Obviously, this is not NPOV or the proper writing style for Wikinews. I've cleaned it up as much as possible by changing the format of the text to quotes. Since this is a quotation and not a statement, I believe this should be considered NPOV now, and as such, I've removed the NPOV warning tag. This is my first time editing Wikinews, so I hope I have followed proper procedure, if not, feel free to retag NPOV. 68.14.34.153 02:28, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Someone restored NPOV without discussing it. I have registered here to restore the New Orleans article, but given that I am a new member, I cannot yet edit the article because it's locked. Someone should restore the New Orleans article with the neutral text I have provided below. Darcagn - (talk) 06:11, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

"The first protesters arrived at the Scientology and Dianetics building in New Orleans at 11:00 a.m. A police officer was already on the scene, anticipating the protest. The police officer was friendly and helped the protesters know the local laws for protesting in the area. He informed the protesters that they were not able to protest on the Scientologists' side of the street, but were able to do so on the median.

More protesters arrived within the next hour. During that time, the police officer informed the protesters who wore dust masks that this is illegal under city ordinances, but gave permission to quickly conceal the face in the event that the Scientologists tried to take photographs of them.

There was a confrontation between the protesters and a Scientologist member in a van, who blocked traffic in an effort to harass the protesters. The officer honked his horn to signal that Scientologist must not block the street, so she pulled around to a U-turn spot to further speak with the protesters. As she was still blocking the street, the police officer pulled behind her to signal that she must continue travelling. She claimed to the officer that the protesters were being obscene to her and her daughter, but the officer, having been present, dismissed her false accusations and once again signalled for her to continue driving. As she left the scene, she drove down the street where some members of Anonymous were getting materials from their car. At this point she started to harass the members, and she insisted on remaining next to their car. Fearful for the car's safety, the Anonymous member moved it closer to within sight of the protest.

The reception from the city was warm; there were many honks from the horns of passing vehicles. Pedestrians and streetcar riders were given fliers. Cake was distributed to the protesters and offered to the police officer, who had to decline because he was on duty. Around 1:45 p.m., a public transit officer arrived, and, despite earlier claims from the other police officer that it was permissable to protest on the median, the officer claimed Anonymous members were disrupting the streetcar line and would have to move to the sidewalk. At this point the protesters ended their protest and went to an after party. There were in total seventeen protesters."

Melbourne, Australia
Melbourne Anon Blog: http://phobicmedia.com/?p=14 58.168.164.75 11:18, 17 March 2008 (UTC) YouTube videos: There are 5 clips that make up the video and they are listed here: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D8FB8E0217253C64 Also the video is believed to be being uploaded to Blip.Tv for download, the URL is http://annonmelb.blip.tv/ - Protesters say it should be online within 2 hours. 58.168.164.75 05:48, 17 March 2008 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4nrVYzSeoY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJhmJyup2fo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.38.36 (talk) 01:42, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Melbourne Anonymous have released a 40 minute hightlight clip on youtube

Two nonviolent protestors arrested by DeKalb County police in Atlanta, Georgia
This is newsworthy, and this should be covered. Cirt - (talk) 03:02, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Atlanta Scientology Protest March 15-anons arrested
 * 2) Riot Police Arresting "Anonymous Leader" in Atlanta
 * Alt.religion.scientology threads on the incident:
 * 1) *Atlanta arrests on video
 * 2) *Jackbooted thugs in Atlanta
 * 3) *Extremely suspicious police behavior in Atlanta
 * 4) Enturbulation.org thread: Atlanta, Georgia part deux - Southern Inhospitality
 * 5) Top of Digg.com right now, with over 1,000 Diggs

Austin Tx
Hey if anyone from austin is editing this, lets get some austin tx info up —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.136.219 (talk) 04:00, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

"Operation Reconnect" planned for April 12, 2008
This has been reported in secondary sources that are also reporting on the March 15, 2008 protests, so it should be given a sentence or two in this article. Cirt - (talk) 04:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) YouTube video: Operation Reconnect April 12th
 * 2) YouTube video: Operation Reconnect

"Anonymous" members arrested, lawsuits pending against police in multiple states in U.S.
Apparently at least one member of Anonymous was arrested in California, and there are also reports that members of Anonymous are planning lawsuits against Police Departments in Orlando, Florida and DeKalb County, Georgia, due to alleged misconduct by the police at the March 15, 2008 protests. Also heard reports that members of Anonymous are in contact with the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) about this. More information and sources to come - it is also likely that this will get coverage soon in secondary sources. Cirt - (talk) 09:29, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * See also article in development - Protesters arrested at anti-Scientology event in Atlanta - Cirt - (talk) 09:29, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Secondary source coverage

 * Ah, nevermind, this wasn't related to the above issue, though could be a mention in this article. Cirt - (talk) 10:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, nevermind, this wasn't related to the above issue, though could be a mention in this article. Cirt - (talk) 10:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Manchester pics
I've one full-resolution pic uploaded so far http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Anonflag_manchester.jpg

There's a lot of unsorted 1024x768 pics at http://s267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/technicalfool/anon_15032008/

I'll get me some broadband and upload whatever pics people think are suitable at full resolution. They'll be multi license CC/Copyleft/Attrib required. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Technicalfool (talk • contribs)

München Germany
I have these Soundfiles i made in Munic. (all in german)
 * [[Image:Scientology-Protest-Munic-polizei.ogg]]
 * [[Image:Scientology-Protest-Munic-anwohner.ogg]]
 * [[Image:Scientology-Protest-Munic-Anon1.ogg]]

Munic started at about 11:00 on Fendstraße/Leopoldstraße and lasted till 17:30. There Where about 30 Members of Anonymous. 2 Policemen in Uniform and at least 2 Policemen in plain clotes. Members of Scientology were not allowed to take pictures of the protestors Masks were not allowed but used for posing for photographs. The protesors were handing out cake to pedestrians. The members of the CoS were not able to give me an interview for about 2 hours, because there was no clearance from the headquater as i understand.

Place:

I would be happy, if someone could integrate this in the article. Photos will follow in a few minutes.Elvis - (talk) 13:45, 16 March 2008 (UTC) Elvis - (talk) 14:00, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Tustin California
There are about 25 protesters outside the Church of Scientology in Tustin, Southern California. This author is also a protester, providing source materials for reporters.

The church hired at least one photographer waiting on the way to the church, to deter protesters. Sprinklers were turned on repeatedly to discourage attendance. The numbers were way up than the few protesters on February 10. A large tour bus with all curtain drawn was seen entering the church. This is a common way of the church to avoid staffs and church goers to see the protest in progress. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wknon (talk • contribs) 20:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

More news for Tustin/Irvine, CA from another protester: Scientologists drove in circles around the site of the protests. What appeared to be a husband and wife team (?) took numerous snapshots of the protesters. Another camera guy kept coming out of the org and the protesters posed for a group picture. They were non-confrontational and somewhat afraid of my video camera. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.194.81.192 (talk) 03:50, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Austin update
we've got lots of pictures and videos if you want to add

http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/gg225/anonymousguyfalkes/

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0C1DA9F0E59879A2

playlist, 9 videos

Anonymousguyfalkes - (talk) 04:13, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Columbus, Ohio
About 80 people showed up in Columbus. People may be interested to know that [mailto:hzachariah@dispatch.com a reporter] for The Columbus Dispatch implied that Anonymous protesters were interested in Hitler. Here is the story. I suspect that the CoS is responsible for that propaganda, as there is no evidence AFAIK that would connect Anonymous protesters with Hitler.--Sandman3000 - (talk) 16:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Plymouth images
Images provided via photosubmission: commons:Category:2008-Plymouth_"Anonymous"_anti-Scientology_protests Platonides - (talk) 22:00, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Title
Are they really "celebrating" LRH's birthday? Wouldn't "mark" be the more appropriate verb for the article title? --SVTCobra 01:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It'd be best not to change the title this long after it was published, imo. Cirt - (talk) 02:21, 18 March 2008 (UTC

I DESERVE CREDIT!!!
i TOOK THE NY NY PHOTOS AND SOMEONE ELSE IS GETTING CREDIT... CORRECT THIS!!!!Rankun - (talk) 17:33, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Why was it reverted?
Hi,

I added a section for Portland, OR on 16 March. Just after this edit someone reverted mine and a lot of other previous work. Why? Could my section at least be reinserted? This makes no sense and seems kind of negligent. -Ben pcc - (talk) 19:47, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

New York photos
Change each of the six New York city photographs in the format "3-15 NYC x.JPG" to "3-15 anti-Scientology protest NYC x.JPG" for the copy on Commons and then speedily delete the local copies as now on Commons. Adambro (talk) 12:45, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅. Cirt (talk) 12:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Typo
editprotected 'eigth' => 'eight' Van der Hoorn (talk) 15:34, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

 * ✅ ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 19:33, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

 * It should be changed to 'eight', not 'eighth'. :) Van der Hoorn (talk) 21:50, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Oops! Thanks. Looks like I managed to get it now. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 22:13, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Another typo
editprotected "Febraury" => "February" Van der Hoorn (talk) 12:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

 * ✅ ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 16:48, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

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Scientology protest group celebrates founder's birthday worldwide/Coordination

This is a page for organizing worldwide coverage of the 'Anonymous' protests against the Church of Scientology on March 15, 2008. I would like to hear from those who plan to cover other locations and countries (USA, Canada, Europe, etc) also! These are the primary cities of interest for Anonymous.

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Belgium
When I find out where the protest is - presumably at the CoS European HQ again I will be there. StevenFruitsmaak may join me. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:34, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll probably be able to join you. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * And, per what the people on irc.partyvan.org have said, we'll get cake. :-P --Brian McNeil / talk 22:55, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * http://anonymousbelgium.jottit.com/ - protest is at European HQ, Wetstraat Bxl. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I am corrected by the above link - they're protesting at the Brussels stock exchange! Better known as the Beurse (sp?). This is in the heart of the city and will get them a far higher visibility than the previous protest. Unfortunately, I'm now in a 50/50% can/can't go situation due to other commitments on the 15th. I may be able to turn up for the first hour then have to head home to deal with family things. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Ontario

 * Editor at Large - will cover protests in Ottawa, I'm finally back in the city. D80 + telephoto lens, should be able to get some good shots.

Edinburgh

 * Meekel - Will have my camera with me this time too.

London

 * Adambro - (talk) - Nothing in the calendar to stop my attending as of yet.
 * Skenmy + assistant - we wil be covering two events on that day (Anon protests at both locations and an Anti-War march)

Manchester

 * Anonymous101 - My camera has just broken so I may not be able to photograph the event - but I'll still report on the event and interview protesters. (Or the repair might be complete by Saturday). Update - My camera is not repaired. No photographs by me :(

Please add your location

USA
Add your state and city here.

Boston, Massachusetts
I'll be there, but won't be able to make it till around 2pm. Protest might have thinned out a bit by then, we'll see what happens. I'll bring my camera and notepad, also leave messages on the voicemail. --TUFKAAP - (talk) 17:10, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

New York
Either Buffalo, New York or New York City. Have a camera, notepad(s), recorder etc... DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 19:20, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Phoenix, Arizona
I'm planning to cover it again. Photos + short description. Bjweeks - (talk) 21:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Seattle, WA
With Digital Camera and notepad, no live posts, but should shortly thereafter --RoninBK - (talk) 14:21, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Scientology protest group celebrates founder's birthday worldwide/Coordination

Suggestion
Wikinews international report: "Anonymous" holds anti-Scientology protests worldwide got cleaned up pretty nicely, but for a while there it was a great big mess, unorganized, with tons of IPs and new editors just sticking in random bits of OR information that may or may not have been true (statistics of how many people were there, etc.) Many of the contributors to that article did not sign up first at the prep page. Suggest semi-protect of that article whenever it starts to become really really active, with editing preference given to established Wikinews reporters who signed up and/or were there in a Wikinews capacity in person, for the March 15, 2008 protests. Cirt - (talk) 19:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I suggest that, in addition to being semi-protected, only users who have signed up here are permitted to make content edits (although they should be encouraged to correct typos). --Anonymous101 Talk 20:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I would support this idea - only I might not be able to report from a protest myself, and would still like to do copyediting to the article when it appears, as well as incorporate info from secondary sources as they appear. Obviously I wouldn't mess with changing the content of OR work, because I wouldn't be able to provide firsthand input to those locations.  Cirt - (talk) 20:32, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Some of the photo gallerys on the first article were a little long. I would suggest limiting gallerys to the best 12 photos (2 lines) and linking to commons if people want to see the rest. (or some fancy dynamic nav for gallery js perhaps, but that doesn't exist yet). Bawolff ☺☻ 00:43, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That is a very good idea. (12) seems like a good max number per gallery.  Cirt - (talk) 06:54, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Uhhh, twelve? uhhh, crud, I wish I saw this before I uploaded. Look, I just submitted my report on the Seattle event, and I'm a bit on the fried side. Feel free to look through the 37 I submitted, and pick the best twelve. At least I chopped it down to 37 from the 118 I took on site... --RoninBK - (talk) 23:55, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

When article gets transferred to working state, retain alpha sort
Another suggestion, whenever the article gets transferred to a working state, a developing article, it'd be best just to keep the locations in alpha-sort, by country then state/province within each subsection. This way, less work to do later to organize the article, and easier to work on while things are added/ongoing. Cirt - (talk) 19:38, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Protection and subpages
Is Scientology protest group celebrates founder's birthday worldwide/Coordination a page for coordination or a prepared story? If its a prepared story, it's too late now, and if its for coordination, why is it still tagged with prepared. Either way, mainspace doesn't support subpages, so your summary in Special:Diff/4538211 is a bit confusing. Can I suggest moving this to, eg, the Wikinews namespace? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 04:47, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ Archived and moved to project space. -Green Giant (talk) 09:36, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmm. It's part of the preparation of an article that was subsequently published, and I meant to permanently group it with the published article by making it a subpage of the published article.  This makes more sense to me than storing a permanently archived page associated with a published article in project space where it looks rather orphaned.  I've seen this sort of subpage used for, iirc, several old OR articles in the archives.  Subpages are a structural device supported by the software and used here and there on English Wikinews (template documentation, a bit in category space and portal space); they're used rather ubiquitously on English Wikibooks, and I expect to use them more aggressively here (and there, and hopefully elsewhere) in future for semi-automated assistants.  What matters administratively, when using subpages in English Wikinews mainspace, is that they aren't published, and that they are fully protected (because, in the long run, we mean everything in mainspace to be fully protected, except for current unpublished articles waiting to be published or deleted). --Pi zero (talk) 12:38, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmm... I’ve moved it back from project space. However, it is listed under the development category in the Newsroom. I’ve tried noindex but no luck. -Green Giant (talk) 12:48, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure Category:No publish is the tool for that. Btw, reminder: don't sight pages in mainspace that are not themselves actually published articles. --Pi zero (talk) 12:59, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * my initial point still stands that mainspace here doesn't actually support subpages --DannyS712 (talk) 18:08, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean. --Pi zero (talk) 18:10, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * If you look at the coordination page, there is no breadcrumb link to the article, unlike at the top of this page, where there is a link to the article's talk page --DannyS712 (talk) 18:19, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I wonder where that's done, and why it was done.  And whether the breadcrumbs are all there is to it, or is there more.  Though it still seems to me like a simple way of keeping track of which page is associated with which.  Re why, we sometimes use slashes in headlines, of course, but since the same headline isn't plausibly going to exist truncated to just before the first slash, it's not really clear to my why one would bother to suppress the breadcrumbs.  As for where, seems it could be in the site config, or there could be a hook somewhere in mediawiki space, or it could be done with CSS.  And what else would depend on where and how it's done. --Pi zero (talk) 18:43, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Its mw:Manual:$wgNamespacesWithSubpages - see mw:Help:Subpages. If we wanted to activate it for mainspace to be able to use it on this page, all other mainspace pages with a  should be renamed. --DannyS712 (talk) 19:56, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * That's not an option, I'd say. Although I don't really understand why it was done in the first place, since it would have (as I said) no effect on any article whose name didn't happen to be a suffix of the name of another article (and the suffix would have to start with a slash).  Thanks for finding the info. --Pi zero (talk) 20:02, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem - its trivial to enable in mainspace, but if we aren't going to then, as far as the software is concerned, the coordination page is completely unrelated to the article itself, and thus I return to my suggestion that it be moved out of mainspace --DannyS712 (talk) 20:04, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I disagree with your characterization of it as unrelated. Afaics the whole "disable subpages in this namespace" thing has only two effects:  it suppresses the ancestor links at the top of the page ("breadcrumbs"), and it disables some name-parsing magic words like   and  .  It doesn't affect the   magic word, nor Special:PrefixIndex.  And here it doesn't change the fact that one page name is, in fact, the other with a suffix   added. --Pi zero (talk) 20:21, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I know that they are related; I'm saying that, to the software, they aren't --DannyS712 (talk) 20:31, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * In those two ways I named, the software doesn't acknowledge a relation between them. To the other two software elements I mentioned, the "disable" thing has no effect.  And the common-sense relation between the names also shows up in alphabetical orderings. --Pi zero (talk) 20:41, 9 January 2020 (UTC)


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China delays newest rocket design to 2014

March 5, 2008 China has confirmed that the newest generation of Long March rockets has been re-scheduled to enter use in 2014.

Liang Xiaohong, Vice President of China's Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology, also confirmed that the Changzheng 5 design was built around pollution-free technologies.

The rocket has been under development since 2002, and was initially said to require only six years' research. However the new design, which will allow more than twice the payload of previous models, has seen a number of delays in funding and development.

Due to the large size of the new rockets, a new 200-hectare launch centre has been under construction at the existing Wenchang Satellite Launch Center since September.

Until then, China is relying on its older fleet of rockets to carry on its space program, consisting of more than ten launches scheduled for this year. This month a CA-3a rocket will take a Beidou navigation system into Medium Earth Orbit.


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Talk:McCain clinches Republican nomination as Huckabee concedes

I believe this shouldn't be considered news. Nothing is official until the convention, which makes the the article misleading. 66.105.219.87 21:20, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


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US officials flood Grand Canyon to restore ecosystem

March 6, 2008 United States federal officials flushed billion of gallons of water into the Grand Canyon on Wednesday, in an experimental effort to distribute sediment throughout the river and restore the ecosystem to a more natural state.

The water was released from two pipes in the Glen Canyon Dam, which blocks the Colorado River and creates the artificial reservoir Lake Powell. At a rate of more than 300,000 gallons of water per second, the flood could fill up the 102-story Empire State Building in 20 minutes, said Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne.

"This gives you a glimpse of what nature has been doing for millions of years, cutting through and creating this magnificent canyon," Kempthorne said after pulling the lever that released the water. The flood will continue for 60 hours, during which time the flow of water from the dam is expected to increase by four or five times.

After the dam was built in 1963, the seasonal floods that would spread sediment throughout the river were halted. This sediment was necessary for creating sandbars and beaches, which served as wildlife habitats. As a result, two fish species have become extinct, and two others have become endangered, including the humpback chub. Although the water level will only rise a few feet after the flood, officials are hoping it will be enough to restore eroded sandbars downstream. Scientists will be conducting studies on how the flooding affects the native species and their habitats. "Our ultimate purpose is to learn whether or not this is a viable strategy for creating sandbars and habitats for native fish," said John Hamill, chief of the Grand Canyon Monitoring and Research Center.

Similar experiments were conducted in 1996 and 2004, although Randall Peterson, an environmental manager for the Bureau of Reclamation, says, "Those conditions were markedly different." He says that tributaries below the dam have released high volumes of sediment in recent years, making conditions more favorable.

However, environmentalists from the Grand Canyon Trust, which has often criticized the government's management of the dam, say there is more that can be done. They assert that the floods must occur regularly if any real change is to be expected, and they accuse the government of conducting the experiment for show. "They're trying to make it appear that they're doing something beneficial when they're just doing it for appearances," said Nikolai Lash, senior program director for the Trust. "It's being manipulated to be a 'one and done,' even though we know that doesn't work."

Grand Canyon National Park superintendent Steve Martin also raised concerns about the project. He said that not following up with more floods soon could actually destroy habitats rather than restoring them. Though the federal plan calls for smaller annual flows in autumn, Martin says these were timed to serve the interests of hydroelectric power producers.

"The best time to get the most money for your hydropower is during peak energy demands, which is generally daytime hours and generally in the summer," Martin said. The U.S. Geological Survey acknowledged that the timing was partly designed in order to maximize electricity production during peak demand.

Meanwhile, others are simply unhappy with the arguing and indecision that have plagued the issue. Martha Hahn, science center director at the national park, said, "At some point we're going to have to draw a line in the sand and say this is the best way to manage the dam and manage resources in the Grand Canyon. We can't continue to go on and on just researching. We have to make a decision. We really are losing valuable resources."


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George W. Bush endorses John McCain for US Presidency

March 6, 2008

United States Senator John McCain, the leading Republican candidate for the US Presidency, secured the endorsement of the incumbent President George W. Bush on Wednesday.

The Arizona Senator travelled from Dallas, Texas to have lunch with the President at the White House.

Afterwards, the two stood before the press in the Rose Garden, where McCain received his formal endorsement from Bush.

"It's been my honor to welcome my friend, John McCain, as the nominee of the Republican Party," said Bush. "A while back I don't think many people would have thought that John McCain would be here as the nominee of the Republican Party—except he knew he would be here, and so did his wife, Cindy."

"It's a man who cares a lot about the less fortunate among us. He's a President, and he's going to be the President who will bring determination to defeat an enemy, and a heart big enough to love those who hurt," continued Bush.

"I’m very honored and humbled to have the opportunity to receive the endorsement of the President of the United States, a man who I have great admiration, respect and affection [for]," said McCain.

Joking about his low approval ratings, President Bush also offered to oppose McCain, if he so preferred. "Either way, I want him to win," he said.

Speaking about the upcoming campaign, McCain told reporters, "I do intend to campaign all —across the country. I think that literally every section in this country is at—in play. And I will be glad to have the President with me, in keeping with his schedule, in any part of America. And we're going to go everywhere in America with this campaign."

Mike Duncan, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, said the party is there to help McCain. "We’ve been preparing for the last several months," Duncan said. "We've been putting the staff together. And all of that is available to Senator McCain, as our the presumptive nominee, as of today."

White House Press Secretary Dana Perino said Bush would help raise money for the campaign as well as working toward securing Republican majorities in the House and Senate. "Across the board, Republicans are going to support President Bush and Senator McCain," she said.

According to The New York Times, McCain's top advisers are eager to enlist the president for his fund-raising prowess. However, they do not want McCain to appear too often at the side of President Bush. They say their reluctance has nothing to do with the President’s unpopularity and is not a sign of running away from the President. Rather, McCain needs to be seen on his own, or "stand in the sun" as one adviser put it.

John McCain became the presumptive Republican nominee after Tuesday's primaries.


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"McCain's top advisers are eager to enlist the president for his fund-raising prowess. However, they do not want the McCain to appear too often at the side of President Bush. They say their reluctance has nothing to do with the President’s unpopularity and is not a sign of running away from the President." -Riiiight... Spacehusky - (talk) 02:26, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, that's what they say ... can't really report on what they are thinking. --SVTCobra 02:28, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I think an endorsement from Bush is the last thing he needs right now. 142.1.153.145 18:10, 6 March 2008 (UTC)somedude

like the handshake
that's all i wanted to say —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.97.218 (talk) 07:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Well DUHHH
What did you expect? Georgie to endorse Obama? That wouldn't be possible, since George Bush doesn't care about black people. (→ Zachary ) 19:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope that is a joke referencing Kanye's statement. --SVTCobra 15:02, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * George doesn't care about black people. True. He also doesn;t care about muslims, anti war campiagners, liberals, libertarians, activists, people who oppose the government, Iraqis, democrats, Iranians, Africans, Britons (who aren't Tony Blair), the French government and any one who does not endorse a tyrannical government going round murdering people. A101 - (talk) 15:07, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * False - Bush cares about all people white or black!!! Who made Condoleezza Rice United States Secretary of State? GEORGE BUSH!!! --69.86.173.19 21:15, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


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Thanks for you interest in Wikinews, however SHEHU LADAN is not news. It is encyclopedic and better suited for Wikipedia. Please also see Introduction. Cheers, --SVTCobra 02:32, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

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Obituaries: March 5-6, 2008

March 6, 2008 The following deaths were reported yesterday:

Derek Dooley
Derek Dooley, who worked for both Sheffield United and Sheffield Wednesday football clubs, died yesterday at the age of 78. In 2003 Dooley was awarded an MBE for his services to football.

Derek McCabe said that "Derek [Dooley] was a special guy. He united the city in football. He never forgot the value of grassroots football so we feel this is an appropriate and fitting tribute to a man who was passionate about the game and loved the city, the Blades and the Owls."

Jimmy Faulkner
Jimmy Faulkner, an Irish guitarist who was said to be one of the country's best guitarists, died yesterday. In his life he has played with many musicians including Luka Bloom, Dónal Lunny, Mary Coughlan and Christy Moore.

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British coast guards strike work for the first time

March 6, 2008

British coast guards have walked out for the first time today in a strike over low pay. The strike, which began at 7 a.m. UTC will affect 19 regional call centres which handle emergency calls and maydays.

The Public and Commercial Services Union said that 700 members had walked out over pay conditions, citing the £12,000 salary, which is below that of other emergency services, and low wage increases in past years.

The union says the 24 hour walkout is to try to achieve a £3000 wage increase, to match that of the other services and break the "poverty pay" that staff and members currently receive.

Managers have been called in to handle the emergency calls, and the union confirmed that the service would not be affected, with boats and helicopters still remaining active throughout the strike period.


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Small explosion investigated in Times Square, New York

March 6, 2008 Police and the military are currently investigating a "small explosion" in Times Square, in midtown New York City. The investigation focuses around reports of a hole in the window of a military recruitment office in the center of the Square.

Reports suggest that the device was a "small bomb or incendiary device", however there were no reports of any injuries. Windows in the office were blown out and witnesses say the building shook from the blast.

Subway trains were earlier prevented from entering the area, while military units and fire officials investigated the incident. There are currently no suspects in the incident and no arrests have been made.


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he wasn't British, he was African. RIP Marc

I knew marc olivier, we went to school together. It's so hard for all of us, just Rest In Peace "Wadjas". We'll miss u. May the Lord keeps you close to him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.248.195.1 (talk) 09:36, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

RIP
We were at the same school in Ivory Coast, he was a friend, a big brother... I can't believe... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.221.123.215 (talk) 11:55, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Repose en paix Olivier
Tu n'est plus la pour entendre ces quelques mots. On aurait tous voulu rentrer chez nous un jour et tous nous revoir, nous raconter les peripeties qui auront rhytmé touts ces années qui nous ont séparé, et reprendre le cours des choses comme on les avaient laissé. Mais tu seras pas la... tu nous a devancé dans le Royaume des cieux. Tu vas nous manquer. Cela dit, ton esprit, ton sourire ta gentillesse et les liens d'amitié, de fraternité qui nous liaient demeurent à jamais dans nos coeurs.

Repose en paix Olivier. Que Dieu aie ton ame et que la terre te soit légère mon frère.

Cedric MONNEY —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.103.37.113 (talk) 20:16, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


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National Hockey League news: March 6, 2008

March 6, 2008

There were 6 games played in the National Hockey League on March 5, 2008.

Carolina Hurricanes @ Atlanta Thrashers
Chris Thorburn scored the first goal of the game for Atlanta, giving them a 1-0 lead 4:21 into the first period. Carolina took the lead before the first intermission; first, Scott Walker scored his 8th goal of the season, then Ryan Bayda scored with less than a minute left in the first period. Joe Corvo put the Hurricanes up by two goals early in the second period. Erik Cole scored just past the halfway point of the game to increase Carolina's lead to 3. Erik Christensen's goal put Atlanta within two before the second period was over. Eric Staal put Carolina back up by 3 in the third period. Ilya Kovalchuk scored his 43rd goal of the year for Atlanta, but Staal then scored his second of the night late in the game. Carolina outshot Atlanta 37-24. Cam Ward made 21 saves for the Hurricanes.

Washington Capitals @ Buffalo Sabres
Alexander Ovechkin broke a scoreless tie at 15:21 in the first period, giving Washington the first lead of the game. Ales Kotalik scored on a Sabres power play in the second period, but Washington answered right back 50 seconds later with a Nicklas Backstrom goal. Ovechkin scored his 54th goal of the season and his second of the night in the third period. Olaf Kolzig stopped 25 of Buffalo's 26 shots on goal.

St. Louis Blues @ Detroit Red Wings
Pavel Datsyuk scored the first goal of the game 5:28 into the first period, giving the Red Wings their first lead of the game. St. Louis tied the score late in the first period, when Erik Johnson scored his 4th goal of the season. Johan Franzen retook the lead for Detroit less than halfway through the second period. Brian Rafalski scored in his first game back from injury 6:11 into the third period, putting the Red Wings ahead by two goals. Datsyuk also scored an empty net goal with 1:31 left in the game to salt the victory for the Red Wings. Manny Legace allowed three goals on 31 shots for the Blues. Dominik Hasek made 18 saves, earning his 21st win of the season.

Anaheim Ducks @ Chicago Blackhawks
Dustin Byfuglien scored a power play goal to give the Blackhawks the first lead of the game 7:07 into the first period. Cam Barker increased their lead in the third period. Patrick Sharp scored an empty net goal with 1:31 left in the game. Corey Crawford, who made his first NHL career start, shutout the Ducks with 19 saves. The Ducks have lost their first in 7 games, and Chicago has a 3 game winning streak.

Phoenix Coyotes @ Dallas Stars
Peter Mueller put the Coyotes on the board 9:26 into the first period, which was his 20th goal of the season. Shane Doan scored early in the second period to put Phoenix up by 2. Dallas cut that lead in half later in the period with a goal by Brad Winchester, his first of the season. Ilja Bryzgalov made 20 saves, and improved his record to 25-19-2. The Stars drop their second straight home game.

Ottawa Senators @ San Jose Sharks
Jason Spezza broke the scoreless tie over halfway through the second period. Patrick Marleau scored for the Sharks would tie the score at 1-1 early in the third period. Spezza scored his second of the night to retake the lead for Ottawa, but San Jose rallied to tie the score on a Jonathan Cheechoo goal to force overtime. At 3:05 into the 4-on-4 overtime, Marleau trickled a puck past Martin Gerber, giving the Sharks their seventh straight win. San Jose outshot Ottawa 30-19 throughout the game, but did not have a lead until the game winning goal in sudden death overtime.

Wikinews Player of the Day
Today's Wikinews Player of the Day is Alexander Ovechkin of the Washington Capitals. Ovechkin scored two of Washington's three goals, and made the hit that led to the other one, the game winner, in the Capitals' 3-1 win over the Buffalo Sabres. He had over 20 minutes of time on ice, with 5 hits and 4 shots on goal. Ovechkin now has 54 goals on the season, and 10 points in his last 4 games.

For information on the selection process of the Player of the Day, see this page.

Other news
Detroit Red Wings defenseman Nicklas Lidstrom announced that he is ready to return to the ice. Lidstrom has missed six games with a sprained knee after taking a hit in Detroit's 4-0 win against Colorado on February 18. It is expected that he will be in the lineup when the Nashville Predators come to Detroit on March 9.


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