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Breaking news! OMG! HKers held hostage! Some released, some rescued, some passed away! TVB Jade and Pearl cancelled shows to broadcast it live! OMG! Kayau (talk · contribs) 13:12, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Translations and TVB repors
Providing translations, also explaining which parts were obtained from the TV. Kayau (talk · contribs) 14:19, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/100823/4/ju4b.html
 * She said that, the gunner allowed the guide and an old lady leave the bus in exchange for two local photographeres, because the old lady needed to go to the lavatory.
 * http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/100823/18/jucs.html
 * A Filipino TV channel said, among the fifteen people, at least two deceased...
 * http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/realtime/art_main.php?iss_id=20100823&sec_id=6996647&art_id=14373736
 * Ambrose Lee, the head of the security bureau, said that they were very concerned about the incident and quickly formed an ad hoc group, led by himself, to sort out the incident; at the same time, he arranged for an ImmD official and a police officer to fly to Manila to help the embassy's rescue work.

TV stuff were obtained from the special report in TVB Jade:
 * Six hostages, including the children and elderly, were released early, as were the Filipino photographers.
 * Yet another attempted to catch the attention of the media.


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Talk:Tropical Storm Danielle forms in Atlantic Ocean

Upgrade to hurricane
If the story developments need a change in the headline, and complete rewrites of the first and second paragraphs, I would suggest that those are clues that the development deserves to be published as a new article.

Don't sell yourself short as a newsgatherer.

Please see Breaking news

--InfantGorilla (talk) 07:45, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Agreed. Common practice in many/most media is to do a new story, but use parts from the earlier one. News is what is known at the time. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:48, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

OK. I reverted the change, and re-posted Shankarnikhil88's work with the provisional headline of Atlantic storm Danielle accelerates to hurricane force. --InfantGorilla (talk) 13:25, 24 August 2010 (UTC)


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Messi Article
Hello, Could you please provide a source for the article you recently created? It seems quite suspicious, and I cannot find any sources that pertain to the subject. If this article turns out to be a hoax, it will promptly be deleted. Thank you. red  - thunder  .  14:09, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

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The Hong Kong hostage incident
I've already started an article about it: Hong Kong tourists kept hostage in the Philippines, some rescued. Can we merge the two articles? Kayau (talk · contribs) 14:58, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

sure. i just thought that the article was not out yet. i was in a hurry to post these updates. please go ahead. thank you! -Black_sun08
 * Hi, your article Philippines police surround bus in Manila hostage standoff Sacked policeman demanding reinstatement has been put into dispute because it appears to violate Wikinews's content guidelines. Specifically, it copies material verbatim from other sources. The article should be re-written to eliminate copyright disputes. Thanks, Killing Vector (talk) 02:22, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

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Thread:Comments:Scientists say the moon is slowly shrinking/Comments from feedback form - "So it may be shrinking. Its ma..."/reply (3)

Indeed, an increase in density would not lead to an increase in gravitational force felt at any given distance from the moon, as long as the distance was measured from the centre of the moon, and not the surface. Gravity is dependant on mass, not on density. However, *surface* gravity on the moon would increase ever so slightly as a result of the moon's slow contraction over time. How much gravity an object possesses is dependant only on its mass, but the strength of the force of gravity tugging on you is dependant on both the mass of the object you're near and your distance from it.

Because the moon is more dense now than in the past, while standing on the surface you'd be closer to the centre-of-mass of the moon, and therefore experience more gravity. (Note that if you dig into the moon (or any other object) you don't experience increased gravity because the material on top of you is now pulling you in the opposite direction.)

The same effect is what makes black holes interesting. If, for instance, you crushed all the mass in the sun into a black hole, the orbit of the earth would be unaffected. The mass of the sun (now a black hole) would be the same, so the gravity output would be identical. But stars are huge and diffuse, so you can't get very close to them before you start burrowing into their "surface", at which point only the portion of the star's mass below you would be tugging you in the direction of the core. The stuff on top of you would be pulling you upward. But with a very dense object like a white dwarf, neutron star, or black hole, their high density allows you to get very close to the centre-of-mass without anything pulling you in the opposite direction. Because you can get so much closer to the center, you experience a greater force than would be possible if the object were less dense.


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Yes. I am pretty sure are metaphors. Dark energy seems to be another name for the accelerated expansion itself, and doesn't address an underlying cause for this observed acceleration.


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Former Yugoslavian footballer Stjepan Bobek dies aged 86

August 23, 2010

Former footballer  has died at the age of 86. His death was confirmed by doctors at the emergency clinic. However, the cause of death was not given.

Born in the Croatian capital,, Bobek gained fame while playing for. He joined them in 1945 and stayed until 1958. During his time with the team, he scored 403 goals in 468 appearances. No one else has ever made more appearances or scored more goals for the club than Bobek. In 1995 he was voted the best player in Partizan's history.

Bobek also played international football. He played for the and appeared 63 times and scored a total of 38 goals. He also won two Olympic silver medals for Yugoslavia in and.

After Bobek retired from his playing career he became a football manager. He coached in several countries including Poland, Tunisia, and Greece as well as Yugoslavia.

When Yugoslavia broke up in the 1990s, Bobek remained in the Serbian capital of Belgrade.


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Does anybody know whether or not there is water involved in this shrinking process? If this SHOULD be the case, shrinking sure hasn't to do with the expanding phase change liquid-solid. However, it might be the phase change gaseous-liquid.


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Thread:Comments:California's same-sex marriage ban ruled unconstitutional; appeal expected/No point in voting/reply (10)

Ah, now you show your true colours. Disgusting it may be to you, but that does not and should not make it illegal.

For your arguments of gays forcing their sexual preferences upon others to be true, then the judge would have issued a ruling that same-sex sexual assaults were no longer offences. You don't enjoy fucking another guy? Simple solution: Stop doing it.


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Not that I know of, the sources did not indicate that this may be the case. The sources indicated that the contraction could be caused by the cooling of the inner core of the Moon.


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Thread:Comments:Pressure mounts against Florida church plans to burn Qur'an/The anger of the offended is wasted

I don't get it. I understand that, in the USA, the church has rights to engage in this behavior, and other religious organizations have the right to protest this action (with neither of these rights overlapping the other in importance), but I don't get what the others who are offended are supposed to do except say some words in reaction, host a few educational interfaith fora, protest in front of the church and that's it. I mean, that's all that the anti-DWOC religious groups in Gainesville are able to do in response, as, I assume, they are prohibited from whipping up a crowd to rescue the "precious" books from destruction.

In addition, I find the offended folks to be a bit daft, since, with the rise of the Internet, the sort of information contained within multiple revisions and linguistic versions of the Qu'ran can be found (just like the Bible or Mein Kampf). All that the church is doing is burning a symbol, and they are hardly engaging in the sort of interfaith diplomacy which they profess to affect by their actions. It's just like the Iranians chanting "Death to America", burning an Israeli flag or kids stabbing their teddy bears and cooking their sister's Barbie dolls: it's only a slightly-misdirected expression of pent-up or authority-aroused rage and demonization that doesn't do anything (not to mention an epic troll that everyone's biting).

Oh, and for the Christians who are saying "nonono we are not like Dove World (or Westboro) because Christianity is about love and peace", what? All of a sudden, all the Christians and Muslims, subscribers to the two most imperialistic faiths of human history want to turn all "Universalist" and "pluralistic" to the infidels and kuffar? Both religions want to downplay the Hell belief which they possess against the unconverted (but which Christianity possesses more against everyone else)? No, please don't make me laugh. I'm an Afro-American atheist who has lived in the middle of Georgia for most of my life, so I understand the Christianity being described by Dove World as being the Christianity in which I grew up and went to church and school. I understand Dove World's Christianity, even without the signs, t-shirts and book burning, as being the default in this region. I understand this Christianity to be the authoritarian, fear-based, zeal-driven mind virus, of whose deity their tender mercies are cruel, which I'll never be able to remove completely from my worldview.

And yet, I think about Dove World down in Gainesville, and the proposed book burning, and I laugh. Really, it doesn't matter that much, and it's not that big of a deal.

/complacent


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Thread:Comments:Scientists say the moon is slowly shrinking/Comments from feedback form - "So it may be shrinking. Its ma..."/reply (4)

It's a well established fact that gravity increases with density. In other words, if the earth was smaller in diameter, given the same mass (i.e., higher density) its gravitational field would be higher (assuming the field is measured at a fixed distance from its center). If you take this to the extreme, by compressing the earth to 1 mm in diameter, it's gravitational field would be phenomenally high. The earth's mass may even be a black hole at that size.

Mass always has density, even if it's just a bunch of hydrogen atoms loosely dispersed in space. When those hydrogen atoms condense into a star, that mass is now at a much higher density and consequently produces a much stronger gravitational field. If the star eventually collapses into a black hole, you wouldn't want to be anywhere in that vicinity of space. Time to dust off the physics and astronomy textbooks. The strength of a gravitation field is directly proportional to the increase in density of a given mass as measured from a fixed point to the center of that mass (and, outside that mass - not measured from somewhere inside the mass).


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Referring to your quote "that if you dig into the moon (or any other object) you don't experience an increased gravity because the material on top of you is now pulling you in the opposite direction". Given that scenario, the mass at the center of the earth has all of the mass of the earth outside of it and should therefore be pulled "in the opposite direction". This implies that the earth should be hollow. Isn't this the kind of thinking that led to the "hollow earth" hypothesis. In fact, you can still become a member of the Hollow Earth Society. However, it is currently understood that the density of a massive object is highest at the center. Gravity is a function of both mass and density acting from the center of the mass "as a whole".


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Domestic Extemper; incredibly interested in news articles and headlines. Wikinews gives better summaries with neutral points of view than any other source, in my opinion. Use it.

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I do love his poem


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Arab Socialism == National Socialism != socialist

Hussein was essentially a fascist, not a socialist. Believe it or not, there is a clear and distinct difference.


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Actually, the Iraq War helped Iran a lot, because it removed their main regional counterbalance. It'll take a long time for the Iraqi army to regain its pre-war strength, and even then, the Iraqi government will almost certainly be more pro-Iranian (or at least least less anti-Iranian) than the Hussein regime. So, good news, Iraq has a democratic government (assuming they work out the political standoff). Bad news, we just handed Iran a victory on a silver platter.

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Um, citation needed? What clause of the Geneva convention does this practice violate? It seems pretty reasonable to me.


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wat about the earth


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School on Australia's Sunshine Coast makes staff redundant, requests they apply for 'new' jobs

August 24, 2010 Wikinews has obtained a list of middle management teaching staff allegedly made redundant, or laid off due to restructuring, by (SCGS), in Queensland, Australia. Sources say that those staff have been told that they can apply for new positions that have opened up.

The list, published on the SCGS alumni Facebook page, contains the names of twenty-two staff members, eight of which taught this article's primary contributor. Seventeen positions are reportedly being opened up by the private Christian school, eight of which seem to significantly overlap the old ones.

The changes are, apparently, designed to get teachers back into the classroom. "We are not cutting subject choices and extracurricular activities, but retaining a student-driven curriculum that integrates with the new Australian Curriculum, in keeping with our commitment to teaching and learning opportunities," said headmaster Nigel Fairbairn.

Fairbairn could not guarantee that any of the staff would be given a position in 2011. “That will depend on how many people on that list apply for new positions of responsibility and are successful,” he said.

"The Head of the School cannot guarantee the 21 staff a job at the School in the future, with many of the positions being advertised to external applicants," said Terry Burke, secretary for the Independent Education Union of Australia Queensland branch (Queensland Independent Education Union, QIEU).

"There has been little or no consultation with affected staff, who should not have to reapply for their jobs," he said. "Most of the proposed restructuring is highly questionable and places at risk the high quality education at the School."

Some former students responded angrily to the news.

Four of the affected teachers "were the backbone of the school when [controversy surrounded founding headmaster John Burgess] happened," a former prefect (student leader) said. "They got it through that crisis and this is the thanks they get."

"People are angry and shocked," they continued. "I am aware of at least 10 families who have said they will pull their children out of the school – it's that bad."

The student body has not ruled out protesting the schools plans. "It's getting to that stage," the former prefect said. "People are trying to look at it in an intelligent way but there is so much anger out there."

Wikinews understands that Fairbairn attracted criticism when he was a head teacher in Christchurch, New Zealand, where a former student claimed that Fairbairn "replaced the open and welcoming culture ... with the tyrannical and oppressive one."


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Talk:School on Australia's Sunshine Coast makes staff redundant, requests they apply for 'new' jobs

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Emails sent to staff can be seen here, here and here. Current jobs being done van be seen here. --RockerballAustralia c 06:56, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Did you download the list of 21 names when you saw it, or forward it to scoop? I ask because I cannot see it on Facebook, and I wonder if it was deleted. --InfantGorilla (talk) 10:12, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

 * The original list I was using would appear that is was deleted. I neglected to download it as I assumed (wrongly) that it would remain posted. But someone appears to have reposted it--RockerballAustralia c 10:23, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

 * PS: I say count 'em. 22. --RockerballAustralia c 10:29, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Sent to scoop --RockerballAustralia c 10:32, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

 * I haven't applied for access to scoop yet, and I still can't see it on Facebook, so I can't finish the review. Could someone else do that piece of the review please? It is odd that the Facebook list has 22 names, but QIEU and SCD both say 21.  --InfantGorilla (talk) 10:34, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Verbatum copy of the list at User:RockerballAustralia/teacher verification and links one and four above for the other issue. --RockerballAustralia c 10:42, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Is the overlap "House Co-ordinator" and "Head of House"? Since it comes from a leaked e-mail, which does not mention that the Head of House roles will be done away with, I think 'confirmed' is a bit strong.  Can you propose a less strident phrase? --InfantGorilla (talk) 10:48, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

 * That would be the apparent overlap. I've put "seemed to overlap" as opposed to "confirmed to overlap" and it's eight positions (not four as previously put).---RockerballAustralia c 10:57, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Terminology
The term the new year could be confusing for readers in the northern hemisphere, where the school year starts in August/September. The article should explain that the current positions end in December, and the new ones begin in January, if that is the case.

I believe the word redundant is not meaningful for some in the international audience, in particular North America. However the typical US terms 'laid off' and 'terminated' are both vague and translate poorly internationally. In absence of a better suggestion, I think you should stick with 'redundant'.

--InfantGorilla (talk) 08:31, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I think ✅ and ✅ --RockerballAustralia c 08:44, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Greens
The article should explain the connection between the Alumni and the Greens. --InfantGorilla (talk) 08:31, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ --RockerballAustralia c 08:45, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Follow-up suggestions
As it is after 6 pm, it is probably too late to have a conversation with a teachers union rep or an employment law expert, but those would be interesting aspects of a follow-up article if you have time to contribute one. --InfantGorilla (talk) 08:31, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Follow up within a week it is --RockerballAustralia c 08:37, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Please research these two press releases: I think that teacher reps deserve a say in this article. Is QIEU the main union at the school? How many of the affected staff does it represent?
 * http://www.qieu.asn.au/ieua_qnt_mr___sunshine_coast_school_quality_education_at_risk_1.pdf
 * http://www.qieu.asn.au/ieua_qnt_mr___employees_at_sunshine_coast_school_targeted_for_redundancy.pdf

--InfantGorilla (talk) 08:40, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

 * the QIEU is the union at the school. I think they represent all staff, teaching and non teaching, at the school.--RockerballAustralia c 08:48, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅--RockerballAustralia c 09:04, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Good. There is a puzzling question to address in the follow up article.  None of the official sources (union or school newspaper) seem to mention that there is an ongoing dispute about pay and conditions, which led to a one day strike back in June.  Web comments seem to hint at some kind of link between the two, and that the new positions may have lower pay than the previous ones.  It would be amazing if a follow up article could uncover a smoking gun linking the two issues, or alternatively scotch the rumours of pay cuts. --InfantGorilla (talk) 09:54, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I smell interviews--RockerballAustralia c 10:00, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Worthy
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Please recommend a textbook reference for the proposition that field strength of a fixed mass at a fixed distance from the center increases with density.

As a counterexample, I have a copy of Stephen Eales' Planets and Planetary Systems to hand. Eales quotes the high school equation for Newton's law of universal gravitation without qualification, which I read as force per unit mass (outside the object) is proportional to mass divided by the square of the distance from the centre of mass. (ISBN 9780470016930, Wiley-Blackwell 2009, p.106)


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Japanese researchers create smell sensor using genetically engineered frog eggs

August 29, 2010 A group of researchers, led by bioengineer Shoji Takeuchi, has made an electronic sensor capable of smelling gases. The sensor uses genetically engineered frog cells. Since previous sensors were not very accurate, the scientist decided to try a biological approach. The invention was revealed in a US scientific journal yesterday, and is supposed to be used to design better machines to detect polluting gases in the atmosphere.

Previous smell sensors were based on quartz rods, which vibrate when a substance binds to them. The gases are distinguished by their molar masses, which can be similar for molecules with different structure, thus relatively often triggering a false positive. Trying to find a more accurate solution, Takeuchi decided to follow an example from insect world. As he explained, "when you think about the mosquito, it is able to find people because of carbon dioxide from the human. So the mosquito has CO2 receptors. When we can (extract) DNA (from the mosquito) we can put this DNA into the frog eggs to detect CO2."

Genes of several insects (the, and ), injected into African clawed frog  eggs, allowed them to produce relatively inexpensive and useful sensors. The choice of the species was caused by their widely studied and well-understood protein expression mechanism.

The modified cells responded to three kinds of and one odourant, which have similar chemical properties. When a molecule of an odorous substance adhered to the receptor on the membrane protein, opened for a certain period of time, and a current was generated. Its magnitude was clearly different for all four tested substances, allowing to distinguish between them accurately.

The colleagues embedded the sensor into a mannequin, so that it could shake its head when a gas was detected. It was easier to observe. Pheromones and molecules with quite similar molecule structure produced clearly distinguishable reaction, with higher accuracy than other biological or human-made sensors. As the research group said, the detection sensitivity of the odor sensor is several tens of parts per billion (ppb), and it is as high as the sensitivity of an existing odor sensor that uses an oxide semiconductor. The distinctive feature of the new sensor is its capability to selectively detect some odorous substances, rather than its sensitivity. Very few false positives were possible due to the biological mechanism involved.

At normal temperature, the sensor lifetime is about 12 hours, which can be extended by putting it into a refrigerator before first use.

Shoji Takeuchi says has a great hope for research use in future, since the frog eggs are very practical for genetic engineering, and can be conveniently used to develop smell sensors for a wide range of gases. He said, "The X. laevis oocyte has high versatility for the development of chemical sensors for various odorants. We believe that a shared ability to smell might open a new relationship between man and robot. .. The research will have wide implications... If the sensor is embedded in a nursing robot, it will be able to identify certain mouth odors or body odors. Also, it can be used for detecting CO2, air pollution, water pollution and food. It's very important for the environment."


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Atlantic storm Danielle strengthens to hurricane force

August 24, 2010 Tropical Storm Danielle is now a, with winds up to 130 km/h (80 mph). The storm is headed towards Bermuda and forecasters at the in Miami, Florida expect it to strengthen over the next two days. Hurricane Danielle is the second hurricane of the. North America is simultaneously threatened by Tropical Storm Frank. The 80 km/h (50 mph) storm in the Pacific Ocean is about 210 km (130 miles) south-south west of Acapulco, Mexico. Mexico has issued a tropical storm watch in the area.

Hurricane Danielle formed near the Cape Verde Islands off the coast of West Africa, being classified as Tropical Depression Six. It then developed into a more organized cyclone.

Meteorologists predict that Danielle will be the first of several storms to form within the next two weeks, as the Atlantic hurricane season is currently at its peak. "There are signs that the is acting like it should in August and September. We're seeing more activity than we did earlier in the season," said Rick Knabb of the.

Even though the 2010 season seems to be one with low activity, emergency officials are still stressing safety and awareness to residents in hurricane-prone areas. "It only takes one storm to cause a loss of lives and devastating property damage," Lauren McKeague, Florida Division of Emergency Management, says. was a catastrophic Category 5 storm that came during a year when it was a lower-than-average season.


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This is world news? Not hardly. Waste of space. No one really cares if 22 people lost their jobs when millions and millions are unemployed. Come on....


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Did we say it is world news?

This site is for ordinary people to gather news from all around the world.

Mr Gillett cares, as do other people in Queensland, and we have lots of space to fill (you can help), so lets not worry about wasting it.


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Spanish newspaper co-founder Carlos Mendo dies aged 77

August 25, 2010

Carlos Mendo, one of the founders of Spanish newspaper died on Monday at the age of 77. His death was announced on the newspaper's website. It said that Mendo had been hospitalised for several weeks with an undisclosed illness.

After graduating he joined news agency in 1958. Mendo then joined the agency, first as their Rome correspondent and then as the Spanish.

In 1965 Mendo returned to EFE, this time as managing director. He held the post during the time of the agency's expansion. After leaving EFE in 1969, Medno joined the where three years later he would be part of the team that founded the El Pais newspaper.

Mendo continued to work for the El Pais newspaper and in 1979 became the paper's London correspondent.


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Mr. Gillett shouldn't have even written the article considering the whole "neutrality" issue. Correct?


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Incorrect. Conflict of interest has been appropriately declared and neutrality independently checked.


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He was IMHO the most important contemporary German artist. A tragic loss.


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i.e. the contraction of solid phases. Thank you. :-)


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That's why anything "Wiki" related will never be accepted as a proper source of information.


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I agree. The fact that everything is far more transparent than and verified as well as any newspaper makes it clear that there is no reliability here at all.


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New Zealand scientist Graham Liggins dies aged 84

August 25, 2010

, a New Zealand scientist whose research saved the lives of numerous, has died at the age of 84. He died after suffering from a long illness.

Liggins followed in his father’s footsteps and entered a career in medicine. He trained as an and began to work at the  in 1959. While he was working at the hospital Liggins began to investigate premature labor during his spare time. His research showed that if a was administered it would speed up the baby's.

Later in his research Liggins used his surgical skills and found while experimenting on the pituitary gland of a sheep that the gland in the controlled the timing of birth. He also discovered that was the hormone responsible for the actual birth. At the time of his research the  and his wife  lost a son who was born six weeks early.

In a controlled trial of pre-natal corticosteroids Liggins worked with Professor Ross Howie. The pair’s study showed a dramatic reduction in respiratory distress syndrome in premature babies. The study was published in 1972. Liggins's research was the first treatment available to give a chance of life to premature babies.

Several people have paid tribute to Liggins including, the chief science advisor to the. He said "Without doubt it is considered the single most important advance in obstetrical and perinatal research of the last 50 years". He added that Liggins was "arguably the greatest scientist New Zealand had ever produced".

Liggins is survived by two daughters and one son. His wife Celia and another son had previously died.


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Don't feed the trolls. :P This appears to me to be just another case of how employees are viewed by their employers as replaceable machine parts. I think it's tragic to see this, in the world of education especially. Even the smallest school has an impact on the world because it trains children how to be adults.


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Astronomers discover large exo-solar system

August 25, 2010

have discovered a that could contain between five and seven, located about 127  from.

Only fifteen planetary systems are known to contain more than three planets. The newly discovered system is centered around star, whose properties may be similar to those of our own. The researchers who made the discovery say that the system is arranged in a more compact way than our own; it is believed that the year of one of the inner planets could be equal to as little as just over one Earth day.

It is believed that up to seven planets may be present in this system; two, however, are subject to ambiguity. One of these is believed to have a mass that may be relatively close to Earth's. This planet, if confirmed, may prove to be the smallest world yet discovered outside our solar system.

This system, however, is not the first to be discovered outside our solar system. Astronomers have been spotting these systems for several years. Christophe Lovis, lead researcher on the project, shares his thoughts about the discovery: "This also highlights the fact that we are now entering a new era in exoplanet research - the study of complex planetary systems and not just of individual planets."

Martin Dominik, an astronomer from the, warns against describing the system as the "richest yet discovered," as it is unclear whether other systems with more planets have been discovered in the past. Dominik elaborates: "Like most discoveries in science, the findings come with more questions than answers; but in my opinion, this is what really advances a field."


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Teachers at Australian school shocked at no warning over redundancies, can apply before 'externals'

August 30, 2010

A deal between headmaster Nigel Fairbairn and the  has ended a week of uncertainty for 22 of the Queensland, Australia school's staff.

Last week Wikinews obtained a list of 22 middle management teaching staff allegedly made redundant, or laid off due to restructuring. The restructuring is, apparently, designed to get teachers back into the classroom.

During the week, staff, students, alumni and parents had accused the headmaster of being dishonest and not "tak[ing] a single question" on the issue.

“At 10am there were 21 teachers with big question marks over their employment but by 1pm they had the assurance they would be able to apply for new positions before external applicants,” union secretary Terry Burke said. “Mr Fairbairn said it was clearly the school’s preference to continue the employment of existing staff. It is our view the existing staff are more than capable of taking on the new positions.”

Sunshine Coast Grammar is a private Christian school approximately 95 km (60 miles) north of the state capital, Brisbane.

Teachers' position
Teachers at Sunshine Coast Grammar school have told the Sunshine Coast Daily that they received no warning of any pending redundancies. Independent Education Union of Australia representative and school careers counselor Maria Campanini said "teacher morale is very low and people are very disappointed and disillusioned".

Ms Campanini said that staff were saddened by the handling of the situation by headmaster Nigel Fairbairn. “We got an email announcing a meeting and I thought it would just provide some feedback about the review,” Ms Campanini said. “But the 21 teachers whose jobs were directly affected were herded into a room, Mr Fairbairn read out a prepared statement, turned on his heel and left. He didn’t take a single question. We were just left sitting there in shock.”

An anonymous staff member told the Sunshine Coast Daily that, “Some teachers, who rely on the income and whose positions were abolished, were very distraught and they had to go to class. It appears we’re not valued in the school community, not to be even asked our opinion as to what might be the best outcome, to try and make it work.”

According to Ms Campanini, one of the teachers being made redundant is 30 weeks pregnant with another returning to work after maternity leave. “It’s really stressful for all the people involved,” Ms Campanini said. “People can understand the need for restructure when it’s explained, but we’re none the wiser.”

“When it all happened on Friday, it was morning tea time and a lot of us had to go back in the classroom and teach all afternoon," the anonymous staff member said.

Parents: 'Fairbairn is not interested in having parents involved'
Parents have accused Fairbairn of constantly changing his version of events, with one telling the Sunshine Coast Daily that, “The school board does not have independent parents on the board, which makes no sense at all. From what I have gathered, Mr Fairbairn is not interested in having parents involved in the decision-making processes.”

“Mr Fairbairn is trying to go into damage control and his story keeps changing,” said Julie Hopkins, another Grammar parent. “He’s told parents this restructure was not financially motivated but has told teachers the complete opposite thing. This is it. The gloves are off.”

Leaked list
Wikinews obtained a list of middle management staff allegedly made redundant, or laid off due to restructuring, by the Queensland, Australia school. Sources say that those staff have been told that they can apply for new positions that have opened up.

The list, published on the SCGS alumni Facebook page, contains the names of twenty-two staff members. Seventeen positions are reportedly being opened up, eight of which seem to significantly overlap the old ones.

Headmaster: 'We are not cutting subjects'
The changes are, apparently, designed to get teachers back into the classroom. “We are not cutting subject choices and extracurricular activities, but retaining a student-driven curriculum that integrates with the new Australian Curriculum, in keeping with our commitment to teaching and learning opportunities,” said headmaster Nigel Fairbairn.

Wikinews understands that Fairbairn attracted criticism when he was a head teacher in Christchurch, New Zealand, where a former student claimed that Fairbairn “replaced the open and welcoming culture ... with the tyrannical and oppressive one.” Fairbairn refused to comment on the criticism.

Graduates embarrassed by lack of respect
Fairbairn's statement came under attack from 2009 graduates who, in a open letter posted on Facebook, said, "It is also hugely hypocritical to attack these teachers for not spending enough time in the classroom, when from firsthand experience the only time Mr. Nigel Fairbairn was ever sighted was during assembly (which he mysteriously stopped attending), never mind in the classroom, therefore, it is honestly astounding that he could make such unjust and incorrect statements."

They also expressed embarrassment "to be associated with the name 'Sunshine Coast Grammar School' while you are at the head of the great community which Grammar once was."

Four of the affected teachers “were the backbone of the school when [controversy surrounded founding headmaster John Burgess] happened,” a former prefect (student leader) said. “They got it through that crisis and this is the thanks they get.”

“People are angry and shocked,” they continued. “I am aware of at least 10 families who have said they will pull their children out of the school – it's that bad.”

The student body has not ruled out protesting the schools plans. “It's getting to that stage,” the former prefect said. “People are trying to look at it in an intelligent way but there is so much anger out there.”


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I'll try to edit the article a bit. --PeeKoo (talk) 16:06, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) It's not proper delivery to write that a system is believed to be one of the known 15 systems [to contain over three planets].
 * 2) It's misleading to refer to "millions of stars in the universe", since the estimated number of stars is 1021.
 * 3) I think "reside" is a poor word choice for the presence of planets in a system.

 * Good fixes. Thanks. --InfantGorilla (talk) 16:23, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

nomenclature
Just a quick note, there's only one solar system. That happens to be the star system in which we currently reside as it is named after the name of our sun, Sol. IMO better choices of names for what astronomers have discovered would be a "planetary system" or a "star system".

 * I am, indeed, familiar with this issue; however, I thank you for bringing this up. I will address it. Tyrol5 (talk) 00:11, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


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"As past students of Sunshine Coast Grammar School, we speak on behalf of many who feel the need to respond to the great injustice that Nigel Fairbairn has inflicted on who can only be named as twenty two of the best teachers we have ever known. Not only was the decision to make these teachers' positions redundant a big mistake, but also a very stupid one. Grammar will now be hard pressed to find teachers that have a passion and pride as strong as the many you have rejected. For example, the pride and joy Mr. Tony Wallis displays for the school is one that is hard to match. The dedication and determination of teachers such as Miss Rayner, Miss Roush and Mr. Lynch to see each and every one of their students succeed is what sets them apart and makes them stand out as exceptional and irreplaceable teaching staff.

It is also hugely hypocritical to attack these teachers for not spending enough time in the classroom, when from firsthand experience the only time Mr. Nigel Fairbairn was ever sighted was during assembly (which he mysteriously stopped attending), never mind in the classroom, therefore, it is honestly astounding that he could make such unjust and incorrect statements.

Not only do your statements clearly offend the teachers, but as students, we feel offended and embarrassed to be associated with the name 'Sunshine Coast Grammar School' while you are at the head of the great community which Grammar once was.

We would like to think that Grammar's name can still be associated with a strong sense of community and exceptional teachers. It is what many students are most proud of and thankful for to be attending a school that is full of such caring, dedicated and inspiring teachers. Having said that however, without the teachers on that list, Sunshine Coast Grammar School is nothing and will now continue to be forgotten and shunned. This is not a threat, it's already becoming reality.

Students of Class of 2009."

Title is very confusing
Title is very confusing, does not convey what is going on. I had to read through the 1st paragraph to determine, oh, it is about some people that lost their jobs. "Shocked at no warning" about what? "alumni express embarrassment" about what? Title is also way too long. -- Cirt (talk) 05:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC) ✅--RockerballAustralia c 07:15, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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I agree with Cirt's concerns. However there have been new developments while this was waiting for review that may help you to sharpen up the presentation and newsworthiness: --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.qieu.asn.au/sunshine_coast_grammar_school___ieua_qnt_mr.pdf
 * http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/story/2010/08/26/gloves-are-off-in-grammar-teachers-row/

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Confusing article, can't understand what it is saying
This article uses confusing language that is not explained. Perhaps my problem is that I am not from Australia, but I can't understand what the point of the article is, other than some teachers have lost, or might lose, their jobs. It seems geared to a particular point of view and only those readers having that point of view can understand what seems like overly detailed information that blurs the main point of the article. Also, it is listed as one of "Wikinews's best work", but it is made up of mostly one sentence paragraphs which I thought was a no no.     Mattisse (talk) 15:49, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


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, president of East Timor, has pardoned rebel leader and 22 of his followers, involved in the 2008 attacks during which he was shot in the back and nearly died.

Dr. Ramos-Horta was shot by rebels on 11th February 2008 and survived only after being flown to the Royal Darwin Hospital in, where he underwent five operations. He told the  this year that one of the rebels, Marcelo Caetano, had admitted having shot him, and had apologised, saying he had not intended to kill him. According to the newspaper Tempo Semanal, Ramos-Horta said he is releasing the rebels because they were also victims. The pardons were gazetted last Friday, but the rebels will only be released after a court order is made.

The announcement follows last year's release of Maternus Bere, a former pro- militia leader indicted by a United Nations crimes unit over the in 1999. Bere was allowed to return to, where he became a government official, prompting international criticism.

Ramos-Horta is a co-recipient of the 1996 and a former Prime Minister of East Timor.


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InfantGorilla, thank you for your reference. I will seek out a counter reference and get back to you asap. We must keep in mind that Newtonian equations break down when it comes to explaining extreme phenomena, such as black holes. Within an Einsteinian curved, spacetime framework, gravity is no longer a force and can act instantaneously at a distance. This discovery has had severe consequences for modern cosmology. I'll get back to you, even if it is to prove myself wrong.


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On Tuesday the U.S. Army released its revised solicitation for the three months after scrapping its previous plans.

The United States Army retracted its first for the Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV) on 25 August. It was decided by the army to begin anew after a "red team" recommended that the army either upgrade the existing ground vehicle fleet or rewrite the requirements. Program officials choose to end evaluations of vehicle submissions and to begin again in two months with new requirements.

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Apple Inc. will hold a music-centered event in San Francisco, California on September 1. It has been widely speculated that the company will introduce an updated line of portable music players and a new.

The company e-mailed invitations for the event to various media organizations on Wednesday. The message included a picture of a guitar and the time of the event. Apple did not release any information about what products would be involved.

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98.6% probability, yep that is pretty damn near sure, though if the planet's orbit is as close to HD 10180 as their estimate says it is (0.02 AU), that "Earth-sized planet" isn't very earth like at all, in fact it's likely hot enough to make Venus seem like a freezer! It seems like that last neptune-sized planet might hold some promise though, 1.42 AU puts it at a good distance to have habitable moons.67.142.172.25 (talk) 00:51, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


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To be on the safe side, we'll say he's a bit biased (though I don't see how)... Ladies and Gents, Mr. Keith Olbermann.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZpT2Muxoo0

He's the Rambo of political stupidity =P All credit goes to youtube and tv and Keith Olbermann


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User talk:Nasim~enwikinews

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Hi. Your article about Bantumusic.webs.com has been removed from Wikinews, since it is not a news article and is considered to be spam. You are welcome to have the deletion reviewed by visiting this page. Thank you for your time. BarkingFish (talk) 14:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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Thread:Comments:School on Australia's Sunshine Coast makes staff redundant, requests they apply for 'new' jobs/Really?/reply (8)

If it so important to the area that these teachers stay in their positions, why not apply a small, local tax to tobacco products, sodas or something of that nature? 2 cents added to a pack of smokes will not keep a smoker from buying the product but would add dollars to the system. What's the student to teacher ratio?


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Never mind. I guess you can't create a new tax for a private school.


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Thread:Comments:Pressure mounts against Florida church plans to burn Qur'an/I can't believe it!

I can't believe these people will do this! What does the church call itself again? Dove? that means peace doesnt it? i feel like kicking and screaming and shouting, even though im a christian. i just want to..... kill myself


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