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User talk:Mikani

Ceci est ma page de discussion, tu peux me laisser un message. Talk on french wikipedia !

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re French Wikimag
I would be glad to do an interview, though I am afraid it would have to be in English, since my French is much to limited.--Cspurrier (talk) 16:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

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Comments:Barack Obama effectively clinches Democratic nomination

Good
Although none of them are great, Obama's probably the best of the candidates from the main 2 parties (except Ron Paul, but he's not going to win) Anonymous101  18:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree (aside from the Ron Paul bit - don't know much about him). I'm very glad that Obama ran, saving me from having to vote for McCain over Clinton.  It's nice to have a choice I can feel good about making.  And to those who point to Obama's lack of experience, I ask what good all the combined experience in Congress did to check Bush's train-wreck of a presidency?  None at all, so I'm much less enamored of experience than I once was.  Maybe someone who isn't so thoroughly entrenched and indebted for political favors owed would be able to finally dig us out of some trenches altogether and get people in this country to actually *talk* to one another.  Obama might just be able to do that.
 * If Clinton's attitude of "I'm entitled to this because I've done my time and I have the right connections" turned me off, her cornball attempts to out-hawk McCain soured me completely on her. As if a woman who has never served in the military has the slightest hope of taking hawkish voters away from a verifiable (and male - let's not forget chauvinism) war hero!  All she managed to do was to scare away everyone who, like me, votes for the more peaceful of available candidates.  Obama may be an untested quality, but at least he's not threatened to "obliterate" anyone yet (that I know of).  --on WP as User:Kasreyn 167.127.107.8 19:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

 * In response to Anonymous's comment, I find it interesting at how much overlap there is between Ron Paul and Obama supporters (Myself included). Anyway, Obama is a better candidate than Clinton and I really hope he wins the election. Spacehusky (talk) 03:35, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

McCain's speech
"That's not change we can believe in."

Why does McCain want me to hate him so much? ~Planoneck~ 03:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Because Obama is going to win Anonymous101  05:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Because McCain knows that if Clinton is chosen as VP, he's going to get steamrolled. Either way if Obama chooses Clinton or not, McCain knows that he's running against the 44th President. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.166.175.146 (talk) 07:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Just make sure you vote on election day and don't just assume that it's a given. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.59.3.238 (talk) 01:13, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Barack Obama effectively clinches Democratic nomination
Go Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.42.142 (talk) 19:33, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:'Expelled' fair use upheld

If the clip was shorter than 30 seconds in length, it should be fair use. Kushal one (talk) 18:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Read the judgement or study copyright law a bit - my understanding is that length isn't that significant in itself, though the proportion of the original work and proportion of the new work are taken into account. Fair use has to be for commentary on the original work, without infringing on its commercial use, and may have to be sufficiently transformed to form a new work. The standard in movie work is to get a license agreement regardless of length or possible fair use defense, so this is exceptional. However, it's pretty clear that a ten second use of a recognisable piece of music in a commercial would infringe copyright and would have no fair use defense, so professionals would make sure they had a license. . Dave souza (talk) 09:10, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Creationism IS THE TRUTH
The world was created in 6 days. THAT IS THE TRUTH. People do not want God because that gives them the feeling that they are in control and so " anything they do is not their responsibility" and so then there is no accountability.. basically... "live how you want, do what you want, whatever the consequences, dont bug me about it" oh and " let there be peace!".. how on earth are you going to have peace if everyone does whatever they want, without accountability and then complain that the world is going to the dogs! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.25.211.33 (talk) 16:28, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Creationism is crackpottery, and your argument is barely coherent.
 * How does having a god make you responsible for your own actions? History is littered with serial killers, rapists, and rapacious empire-builders who have used their belief as an excuse for their brutality. Where was your god? Why did he not intervene in these actions taken in his name? Living without a god means that when challenged you have no choice but to accept responsibility for your actions; this is simply a more adult approach to life.
 * As to the world going to the dogs? It's no surprise when there's a bunch of cretins who think they can drive a 5mpg SUV and not worry about environmental impact because the rapture is imminent. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:37, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

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Comments:Buffalo, New York warehouse fire injures 12 firefighters

good source my dad was in the building right next to.

good source my dad was in the building right next to it.


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Hillary Clinton: I am 'open to being' US Vice President

June 3, 2008

According to the Associated Press (AP), 2008 United States Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has told lawmakers in New York that she is "open to being Obama's vice presidential candidate". Earlier, the AP reported that Clinton would concede her race for the tonight during a speech in, something her campaign denied.

"The AP story is incorrect. Senator Clinton will not concede the nomination this evening," said Clinton campaign officials in a statement to the press.

The report comes from New York lawmakers who participated in a conference call with Clinton. Nydia Velazquez, a New York lawmaker, stated to Clinton that she should seek being the running mate for Obama because it would win him more votes from the Hispanic and African American populations in November.

"I am open to it [being vice presidential candidate] if it would help the party's prospects in November," stated Clinton, speaking in a conference call with other politicians.


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Talk:Barack Obama effectively clinches Democratic nomination

Might want to slip in the 'real' first 'black' American to get on the ballot for President in all 50 states:

Dr. Lenora Fulani (1950-), a psychologist and social activist, ran as an Independent in 1988 and 1992. In 1988 she was the first woman and the first African American to get on the ballot for president in all 50 states.

The Making of a Fringe Candidate 1992 by Lenora B. Fulani


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US federal agents raid strip club empire in Washington state

June 3, 2008 Yesterday, federal agents, assisted by local police, raided the businesses, homes, and offices of Frank Colacurcio Sr., and his son, Frank Junior in Washington, in the United States Pacific Northwest. Approximately 50 years after federal authorities first labeled Colacurcio Sr. as an organized crime figure, they allege the 90-year-old strip club magnate and convicted racketeer is still active in violating the law. Local police with federal authorities enacted their raids in three separate counties along Puget Sound. Local police have described it as the most significant probe into organized crime in Seattle, Washington's history. The Colacurcios face allegations that include evidence of prostitution, money laundering and mail fraud.

According to Robbie Burroughs of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), court documents have named the clubs "Rick's" in Seattle, "Sugar's" in Shoreline, "Fox's" in Parkland, and "Honey's" in Everett, as well as the businesses "Talents West" talent agency and "Accurate Bookkeeping" in Seattle. The Colacurcios themselves were named as subjects of the investigation and raids. The Federal government additionally enacted a restraining order, unusually, as evidence in similar investigations is normally not made public prior to any indictments being issued. The restraining order, which can only be contested for ten days, bars the Colacurcios or their agents from selling, reducing the value of, or transferring three strip clubs, Rick's, Sugar's, and Honey's, or the related hiring and bookkeeping offices.

Seattle U.S. Attorney Jeff Sullivan has stated he plans to pursue the forfeiture of all the properties and businesses under the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO). "For far too long, the Colacurcios' organization has made big money operating their clubs as fronts for prostitution," he said. "The Colacurcios have designed the clubs, the payment methods and the policies that encourage prostitution and to ensure they are the ones getting rich off these illegal sex acts."

As of June 3, neither the Colacurcios nor their attorneys had spoken with the media or in public about the raids and investigation.

The Colacurcios have a long history involving law enforcement. Frank Sr. was convicted in the 1940s for having sexual relations with a 16-year old girl. In 1957, a United States Senate hearing on organized crime identified him as a racketeer. In 1971 he was convicted on the federal level of running a bingo racket, and received a three year sentence. In the mid-70s, he served two years in custody for a tax evasion that was overturned in an appeal. In 1981, he received a conviction for tax fraud from skimming profits on a night club, and in 1991 he and his son, Frank Jr., were convicted of a similar crime for clubs they ran in Alaska.

In January 2008, they both plead guilty for their role in Seattle's "Strippergate" campaign-financing scandal which erupted in 2003. The scandal involved funnelling illegal campaign finances through various associates to the re-election campaigns of various Seattle City Council members, before a zoning election for a club they owned. The event is what led to the current raids and investigations.


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Talk:US federal agents raid strip club empire in Washington state

Needs a few fixes per WN:SG before publishing. --SVTCobra 21:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hows it look now? rootology (T ) 22:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's good, imo, and published. One thing I would say is to keep in mind the international audience. Other countries have federal agents, too. Cheers, good work. --SVTCobra 22:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:United States authorities bust multimillion dollar drug ring in New Jersey

The Sopranos?
The house in the Star-Ledger's article looks eerily similar to Tony Soprano's home. --SVTCobra 22:49, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

i know the family and the drug bust happend the night of esteves ugly daughters sweet 16 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.83.125.45 (talk) 20:22, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Hillary Clinton: I am 'open to being' US Vice President

Interesting, this could challege McCain. Red4tribe (talk) 00:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I wonder if Colin Powell will run as McCain VP?--66.229.25.248 01:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Why not Condoleezza Rice? Wouldn't that nullify the gender/race debate? --SVTCobra 01:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I always liked Powell, But Ms.Rice is a Smart cookie too and I don't vote base on gender and race. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.25.248 (talk) 01:28, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Picking Powell or Condi would bring up allegations of McCain running for Bush's third term. Right now, I think McCain wants to distance himself as far away from the Bush administration as he can without alienating the 28% of the country who still support it. ~Planoneck~ 03:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah i think the same thing can be said for Hilliary and AL gore.--66.229.25.248 04:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

CLINTON AS VICE PRESIDENT
I BELIEVE THAT OBAMA\CLINTON PRESIDENCY WILL FORM A FORCE IN WINNING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY EASIER BECAUSE OBAMA WON THE PRIMARIES WITH JUST VERY SLIGHT VOTES. THIS MEANS THAT A WHOLE LOT PEOPLE STILL PREFER CLITON TO OBAMA BUT IF THE TWO OF THEM COME TOGETHER, THEY'LL DEFINITELY WIN THE REPUBLICAN.

CHIDI IHEDIWA ABUJA, NIGERIA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.14.92.62 (talk) 09:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, something tells me Obama would do it unwillingly. Red4tribe (talk) 11:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Why this isn't a good idea.
Many are hoping that an Obama/Clinton ticket could heal the rift in the Democratic Party, but look at the downside - you get Obama's baggage: Rev. Wright, the Weathermen, Madrassagate, Bittergate, all the ridiculous nonsense over whether he loves America "enough" - PLUS you get all of the Clinton baggage, which includes Whitewater, America's conflicted reaction to her decision to stay with her husband (which is none of America's business), as well as President Clinton's many recent campaign-trail gaffes and the rumored possibility that he is back to skirt-chasing. Besides which, many in the country are uncomfortably trying to figure out where President Clinton would figure into the White House power structure - given his charisma and long political experience, many wonder if he would wind up being the Obama administration's Dick Cheney-esque "man behind the throne". To be honest, I'd love to have him back as POTUS but I'm not sure if he has the self-control to sit passively on the sidelines as merely the "Second Mate". He could wind up being more damaging to the Obama campaign, and the Obama administration, than anything else I can think of. Plus as merely the husband of the VP, his philandering would be much more likely to get him in hot water and would be much harder to cover up, therefore much more damaging to the administration. So let's keep President Clinton away from the White House unless we're ready to hand him the keys again and let him actually work there, OK?

As for electoral math, there is talk of Clinton helping Obama with Hispanic and African-American voters. Since when does he need help with those? It's working-class white voters he needs help with - look at all the exit polls showing how Clinton trounced him in that demographic time and again, and look how long she was able to stave off almost certain defeat by making this one extremely valid point: that this electoral group is too important to ignore and is typically crucial in determining who gets to sit behind the Resolute Desk. But I can think of a politician more likely to be helpful with that demographic than Clinton, someone who would have trounced *her* in that demographic in West Virginia if he had still been in the running - John Edwards. He lacks Clinton's baggage and acquitted himself well in 2004, which means he's already well vetted and has proven his ability to not stick his foot in his mouth or embarass the party, which is more than can be said for President Clinton's recent petty antics. Plus, please try to remember that this is America, where we freed the slaves but waited a century to actually do anything to make that promise real. Change is slow here; I think getting either a black man or a woman president is an amazing, colossal leap forward for this nation. Putting both on the ticket may be asking the average American too much - and don't curl your lip because their vote WILL determine this election, as it does every election.

As for the "rift" in the Democratic Party, I'm not worried about it. The people saying they're going to "stay home" are almost certainly the same whiners who loudly stated that if Kerry lost they were going to run for the border. (I could almost hear them adding "...and THEN you'll be sorry!") So tell me now:  how many of them are singing "O Canada" today? The point is, the "stay home if x gets the nomination" crowd are just blowing hot air, and the media are fools to pay attention to such empty threats. Come November, the same ones who always stay home will stay home, and the same ones who were going to vote anyway will pull the lever for Obama. I won't be losing any sleep over it - and that's why we don't need Vice President Clinton. --on WP as User:Kasreyn 167.127.107.8 14:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Er, why don't you unify your accounts and stop signing as an IP? --Brian McNeil / talk 15:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Click here while logged in to en.wiki to merge your account. Anonymous101  15:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Hillary
Hillary deserved to be the president of these united states.Obama has no experience and i can't beleive he got this far.It is NOT the will of the people,as mostly everyone favored Hillary,18 million of us,and she got the popularity vote,if the superdelegates weren't so "Anti-Hillary she would've won.I personally think Most of the people in politics were jealous and afraid she clean house and go down in history as the "BEST PRES.EVER" i know Obama will NOT be the best person to handle our country,you watch and see!!!!!! Personally i will vote for McCain ,if only to take a vote away from Obama.Why do we vote anyway? It's Obviuos it doesn't matter! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.78.125.127 (talk) 14:04, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


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Was his wife with him? haha. Red4tribe (talk) 00:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, sadly she was.
Yes, sadly she was. 66.162.207.21 —Preceding comment was added at 17:37, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


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Denmark blames al-Qaeda for embassy bombing

June 4, 2008

On Monday, June 2, the Danish embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan, was attacked with a car bomb. The bomb went off in the parking lot of the embassy at around 12:10 pm (UTC+5), killing at least six and wounding at least 30 others. One Danish citizen was killed. "I think we can say with a reasonable degree of confidence that it was a suicide attack," said Tariq Pervez, the director-general of the Pakistani Federal Investigation Agency (FIA).

The bomb forced the closure of the Danish embassy, as well as those of Norway and the Netherlands, which were nearby.

While no group has claimed responsibility, the Danish national security intelligence agency PET has concluded that al-Qaeda was behind the attack. "Extremists can be inspired by the attack in Pakistan," said PET's director, Jakob Scharf in a statement.

"We are just trying to find any clue, any evidence," Pakistani investigator Muhammad Mustafa said to the Associated Press. "You know yesterday it was panic here. Usually we miss important things in panic."

"Samples have been sent to the laboratory to determine what type of explosive was used," said Mohammad Ashraf Shah, who is in charge of the investigation. Investigators have found that the car with the bomb was a Toyota Corolla, which bore diplomatic license plates.

"One can of course only condemn it, it's terrible that terrorists commit such acts," said Per Stig Møller, the Foreign Minister of Denmark, on TV 2 television.

"It was to be expected that they would do something," said Ikram Sehgal to Reuters, referring to Ayman al-Zawahiri's recent video encouraging attacks against Denmark over the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy.

"I urge and incite every Muslim who can harm Denmark to do so in support of the prophet, God's peace and prayers be upon him, and in defense of his honorable stature," Ayman al-Zawahri said in a video which became public on April 21.

"This attack was not linked to any event in the country or the region, rather it was part of widespread outrage throughout the Islamic world against publishing blasphemous caricatures," a local official told Daily Times, adding that it would not affect Pakistani negotiations with "local" Taliban, which is considered separate from the Taliban in Afghanistan.


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Comments:Human rights group alleges U.S. prison ships

aww
Terrorists having their rights destroy by the evil American Government. I almost want to cry, thank Allah for this civil rights groups defending people that don't even believe in human rights but let alone the fact they target mosques and use hospitals as base of operations. Allah bless them and frack the innocent civilians that get blasted away by their freedom fights in martyring them selfs in the marker places targeting the evil Crusaders who are not even in the same area. --66.229.25.248 01:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

PS. Because you don't agree with my opinion Mr/Miss.66.20.174.199 Dos not give you right too erase my edit and call it Vandalism.--66.229.25.248 01:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

 * You know, it is because of people like you that America's image at home and abroad is tarnsihed. By giving our government the right to commit an act such as holding people without due process, denying legal counsel, and just about everything in the patriot act, we are setting a precedent around the world that says, "We are America and do as I say, not as I do." No wonder the whole world is turning to the dogs. We have the country that was the forerunner in civil rights and liberties denying people these same rights that we have fought so many wars over and hold near and dear to our hearts. Congrats 66.229.25.248, you sound just like the stereotypical American citizen that the whole world hates.

 * I have to agree with you there, 157. In the first place, the terrorists have enough reasons of their own to hate the West without us giving them more ammunition (not to mention more of a chance that other countries will start listening to them more). And secondly, note the phrase "alleged terror suspects". These are not people known for sure to be terrorists, it's people believed to be connected to terror plots. Even if I were an advocate of removing all human rights from terrorists, I'd want to make sure they were a terrorist before I did anything to them. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 00:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I was stationed on the USS Bataan, for four years(04-07)...I am still in communication with people current on the Bataan. There are no prisoner of war on board this ship. I am a MA meaning a military police officer, so i would have been involved, if they had been their involved.

Please remove this blunt lie and slap in the face for the US Navy.

 * We ain't gonna remove it as what we've said isn't a lie. The group did make the accusation. Try asking them to retract it. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 07:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


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England; Australia set to battle for right to host 2018 Football (Soccer) World Cup while U.S. are considering their options

June 4, 2008

England and Australia are set to showdown for the 2018 FIFA World Cup. Other interested countries are China, Japan, Mexico, the Netherlands, Qatar and Russia. FIFA President has encourage Spain to bid for the 2018 World Cup. The final decision to decide the host nation(s) will be in 2011.

There will be stiff competition from Australia and England. Football Federation Australia Chairman Frank Lowy made it clear how his country definitely intends to make a bid with a strong attempt to win the right to host the event in 2018 while FIFA Vice President Jack Warner has backed England for 2018.

Jack Warner has supported the United States for 2022 FIFA World Cup damaging their chances for 2018. Also hindering the American bid is the fact that United States Soccer Federation is still considering their options. CONCACAF President Jack Warner was quoted as saying, "My message to the USA -- and they don't have to listen -- is to try to make a deal for 2022, and I'm quite sure that would have universal support," Warner went on to further say, "The kind of discussion I would have between England and the U.S. is, 'Will you support me in 2022?"

There has been no public support for China, Japan, Mexico, the Netherlands, Qatar and Russia.


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Ovarian baby "miracle" birth

June 4, 2008

Doctors performing a Caesarian delivery in a Darwin, Australia hospital were stunned to discover a rare ovarian ectopic pregnancy. According to Robin Cahill, general manager of the Darwin Private Hospital, ovarian pregnancies occur in only 1 in every 40,000 fertilisations.

An ectopic pregnancy occurs when a fertilised egg implants in a woman's body in a location other than the uterus. The most common place for an ectopic pregnancy to occur is the Fallopian tubes, accounting for roughly 95% of all ectopic pregnancies. Ectopic pregnancies are generally discovered early, especially as they tend to cause bleeding in the mother, and tend to miscarry or be terminated due to the health risks they pose.

The mother, Meera Thangarajah, however, suffered no complications during her pregnancy, and an ultrasound performed mid-way through the pregnancy did not discover the complication. The hospital's obstetrician Andrew Miller says that having an ovarian pregnancy survive to full-term is "unheard of". The British Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists agrees, with a representative saying the odds of a successful ovarian pregnancy are "no more than one in a million", taking into account both the difficulty of bringing such a pregnancy to term and the tendency for the pregnancy to be terminated when it is discovered early.

The baby, a girl, was named Durga, a Hindu name meaning "goddess", and weighed 6 pounds 3 ounces (2.8 kg). The father, Ravi Thangarajah, says that doctors told him he was "one of the luckiest men in the world".

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Comments:Indiana congressional candidate Tony Zirkle defends speech at Nazi meeting

Zirkle is Doomed for Bad Luck!
Tony Zirkle is a lawyer in Indiana and will stop at no ends to get free publicity. Only this time it backfired on him. First, Zirkle is jewish and married to a jewish girl. His mother is jewish and he goes by Zirkle but his real father was a fellow by the name of Van Ness. He is not real bright, but he knows just enough to make him dangerous. He knows nothing of the law, and he is an accomplished liar. I suspect that his law practice in Indiana has suffered execpt for the few skin heads he has impressed. Well someone has to represent the KKK and the nazi's so let Zirkle have them and all the other good things that are sure to come his way. BP


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This cannot be published without OR notes. Anonymous101  05:46, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

No article directly tackles the topic. I used different articles to create the article. Kingjeff (talk) 13:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

 * That's not WN:OR, that is just what we do here. I removed the Original tag. --SVTCobra 22:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

How is this not OR. No article deals with this topic. Kingjeff (talk) 02:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Feel free to vet it with other editors, but everything is gleaned from secondary sources. In my opinion, that precludes it from being OR. --SVTCobra 21:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

 * When I take a look at this paticular article, I think you're might be right. But if you take a look at FIFA and European Union are set to collide, each point on the "Timeline" came from a source. But no article listed in the sources section had the concept of a timeine in their article. The "Timeline" section is purely my idea making it OR. So to say, "everything is gleaned from secondary sources," is a wrong assessment of OR. Kingjeff (talk) 00:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


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User talk:Anonymous101/Obama claims victory in US Presidential elections

This story is horribly written and confusing. It needs a serious rewrite, starting with the title, which implies that Obama claimed victory in the general election, without making mention of the primary. Shoddy and misleading.
 * It isn't published yet, this must be fixed first as the notice at the top says. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:2008 COMPUTEX Taipei starts for the future of ICT industry

I like the whole thought of WiMax. :) --Remi (talk) 08:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

The Future of "WING"???
Sigh, anytime there is a wikinews article whose title makes no sense to me its undoubtedly set in Taiwan. Like that Doritos Web 2.0 whatever article. "starts with the future of "WING"" makes no sense, I perused the article and WING did not become apparent. I get that this has something to do with WiMAX but these Taiwan articles are always written in such a bizarre cryptic language and always about some PR event thing. 24.99.56.15 11:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Have you seen the final paragraph? I think, evidently, YOU DO NOT!!! WING should be W, I, N, and G.Brock contact... 12:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, now I know what WING means, still sounds like a PR campaign24.99.56.15 14:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You seems that you don't like the style proposed by Taipei Computer Association, WING is a future trend that the government dedicatedly promoted, Ying-jeou Ma also said earlier in the Opening Ceremony that I participated. Forgot, better to see Commons Photos all taken by me. Brock contact... 14:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the article sounds like an advertisement71.56.114.89 14:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


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Indian 'guru' faces charges of fraud, drugs and rape

June 4, 2008

A spiritual guru known as "Swami Amritachaitanya" is being held in Kerala, India on charges of fraud, rape and possession of narcotic drugs. Swami Amritachaitanya, whose real name is Santosh Madhavan, was arrested by Interpol in March on criminal charges in a police raid at his 16-suite ashram in Kochi, India following multiple police complaints against him. Indians living in Bahrain have recently come forward and filed a case against Madhavan in India on allegations of fraudulent practices related to his supposed charity activities.

Twenty Indians living in Bahrain filed a case against 35-year old Madhavan on Tuesday. They claim they were victims of a scam after Madhavan convinced them to invest in a charitable organization and tourist resort, but allegedly kept the money for himself. Madhavan arrived in Bahrain in 2005.

"Twenty of us have e-mailed a complaint to the Inspector General and Commissioner of Ernakulam police as well as Kerala Home Minister," said complainant Jaya Kumar in a statement to the Gulf Daily News. Ernakulam is a district in the state of Kerala in India. "He was very convincing about his charity activities as well as the resort," said Kumar, a purchasing officer at a company in Bahrain.

Police began an investigation into Madhavan in April after a woman filed a complaint alleging he had promised to start a business with her after a meeting in Dubai, but she said he disappeared after she gave him the money. Serafin Edwin traveled to the capital of Kerala, Thiruvananthapuram, last week from her residence in Dubai, in order to give testimony against Madhavan. She was greeted at the international airport by police, and is under police protection due to concerns for her safety. Her family members told Khaleej Times that she feared physical harm from Madhavan or his henchmen. Interpol has been investigating Madhavan in allegations related to his business dealings with Serafin Edwin since 2004. "I am happy that the police finally caught up with him and he is in prison. He is a big fraud and everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie," said Serafin Edwin in a statement to the United Arab Emirates paper The National.

Madhavan was arrested by Interpol police after multiple underage girls went to law enforcement with allegations of rape and sexual abuse. According to Press Trust of India, police in India received complaints from three underage girls alleging he had raped them. The Times reported that Madhavan is accused of making pornographic movies with underage girls, sexual assault, rape, fraud and possession of narcotics. A police raid of Madhavan's four-story mansion in India uncovered drugs, a police uniform, a pelt from an endangered tiger and pornographic DVDs. Gulf Daily News reported that Madhavan was arrested in Kerala in conjunction with an Interpol "red alert", which was issued after consultation with Dubai police in 2004.

Self styled "godmen" and "gurus" are under increased observation by police in India following the arrest of Madhavan, and police are specifically investigating their sources of wealth and possible fraud. "We are not against genuine spiritual leaders. But we won’t allow illegal activities under the guise of spirituality," said Kerala home minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan in a statement to Howrah News Service.

G. Sudhakaran, Kerala's minister for temples, presented a different viewpoint in a statement to The Times. "They’re conducting all kinds of criminal and material activities behind their spiritual exteriors. Ninety per cent of them are fake and criminals. There are so many swamis who have enlightened the hearts and minds of people, but these people are fakes with no idea about spirituality. They are only interested in women and money and muscle power," said Sudhakaran. Many Hindus were upset by Sudhakaran's words, as some devout Hindus consider swamis to be above the law and should not be criticized.


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Police detain Tsvangirai in Zimbabwe

June 4, 2008

According to the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) party in Zimbabwe, opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai has been detained by police after they stopped his convoy.

The MDC convoy transporting Tsvangirai was stopped by a roadblock at 10:00 UTC north of Bulawayo. Tsvangiarai and his people have been taken to a police station in Lupane, according to MDC spokesperson Nelson Chamisa.

George Sibotshiwe, a spokesperson for Tsvangirai, said, "We are currently held up. They are saying there's a commanding officer whom we should wait for. They are not saying why they are holding us up. It's not an arrest but illegal detention. It appears they want to disrupt our campaign program."

Yesterday, while campaigning in Bulawayo, Tsvangirai said, "Mugabe is determined to turn the whole country into a war zone in order to subvert the will of the people and steal the June 27th election by any means possible."

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Apache pipeline fire - Varanus Island, Western Australia

June 4, 2008

A pipeline rupture and fire at Apache Corporation's Varanus Island facility in Western Australia has reduced the supply of natural gas to Western Australia by 30%. 153 employees have been evacuated and 13 employees remain on the island to monitor the situation.

Steven Farris, Apache's president and CEO said "No one was injured, all personnel are safe, and the rupture and fire appear to be contained on the island...At this time, we cannot estimate when throughput will be resumed." The facility was producing approximately 330 million cubic feet(MMcf) of natural gas and 8,000 barrels of crude oil per day, this has been reduced to 200 MMcf and 5,000 barrels per day.

Western Australian Minister for Energy Fran Logan said that residential supplies were unlikely to be affected but has called on Western Australians to conserve the use of natural gas. Minister Logan said that Apache supplies primarily large volume users like Alinta Gas and Alcoa, and the major industrial users will be hit the hardest. The aluminum refineries owned by Alcoa, which are dependent on natural gas, have switched to diesel to maintain production.

Apache representatives, including its managing director Tim Wall and fire experts from Singapore, are heading to the site to extinguish the fire and assess the damage. Wall said during a news conference in Perth today that a small fire on a vent had already been extinguished. Apache has invoked a clause in its supply contracts to remove liability for unavoidable catastrophes that prevent them from fulfilling obligations under the contract.


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Polish women's volleyball star Agata Mróz dies aged 26

June 4, 2008 Agata Mróz, who together with Poland's national team won the European women's volleyball championships in 2003 and 2005, died on June 4 in a Wrocław hospital just two weeks after a bone marrow transplant intended to treat her progressing acute myeloid leukemia. She had myelodysplastic syndrome since childhood.

Polish fans dubbed the national team on which Mróz played the "Golden Girls", both due to their looks and their successes in international competitions.

Her club career had been equally successful, with two Polish and one Spanish championships under her belt.

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UEFA Champions League 2008–09: FC Porto kicked out of competition

June 4, 2008

The Control and Disciplinary Body has decided that FC Porto will not participate in next season's UEFA Champions League after its bribery scandal.

UEFA said on their website, "The UEFA Control & Disciplinary Body considered that the offences related to the judgement in Portugal corresponded with "an activity aimed at arranging or influencing the outcome of a match," as stated in Article 1.04 (d), and that the condition set out in this provision would therefore not be met by Porto. The decision is open to appeal within three days of the sending of the decision."

FC Porto were also deducted 6 points and received a fine of €150,000 by the disciplinary committee of the for the same incidents.


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Even if you were the policeman stopping Tsvangirai, why would you want to help out Mugabe at all? Fephisto (talk) 14:58, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Probably because you have been part of the oppresive system and if there is a change in power you will be fired, and perhaps even sent to jail for past deeds. --SVTCobra 15:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Meh, thug
Mugabe has always been a murderous thug who was prepared to kill to get his way. The saddest thing is that seems to now include the people - regardless of colour - who live in Zimbabwe and have citizenship. Those who he doesn't delegate the killing of to subordinates will simply die of starvation. The tyrant has dropped the "breadbasket of Africa" down the toilet then repeatedly crapped on it without flushing. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:32, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


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Second "Red Bull Flugtag London" lands in Hyde Park

Saturday, June 7th, 2008

The Red Bull Flugtag, an event that is hosted by 55 cities around the world, today returned to London, England's Hyde Park for the second time in the event's history. Wikinews was at the waterside of The Serpentine to report on the events of the day.

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The ticket-only event was last held in London in 2003. This year, 41 teams of inventors will be hoping to scoop one of the prizes on offer, with first prize being a choice of a full set of flying lessons (for one person), a group day out in an aerobatic aeroplane, or £5,000 (~$10,000 USD), along with the title of Red Bull Flugtag Champions 2008. Second prize is a choice of gliding lessons for the whole team, or £2,500 (~$5,000 USD). Third prize is a tandem parachute jump for the whole team, or £1,000 (~$2,000 USD).

The teams are required to launch their inventions - some of which are as wacky as a giant Trifle or an aerodynamic toilet - from a 6 metre ramp into The Serpentine. The teams are scored based on their distance flown, level of creativity, and entertainment value of their on-ramp pre-flight performance. The judges for this years' competition include Strictly Come Dancing’s Craig Revel-Horwood, model Jodie Kidd, BBC Fame Academy judge Carrie Grant, and Red Bull Flugtag London 2003 winner Tim Simpson.

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11:00am

On arrival at the Media Area, with the judges in tow, competitors are preparing for their plunges! The weather is beautiful, and the public have turned out in force for the event. A large ramp dominates one end of the Serpentine, with large screens dotted around the venue.

11:40am

The days entertainment has now begun, the large screens now filled with documentaries on the teams, hosts chatting, and team interviews live from the ground. The atmosphere is charged - people are ready for the day, which has turned out beautifully, sunshine with a cool breeze.

1:00pm

The first team, the Loo-ny Tunes, are on the ramp, performing their opening performance. Wikinews has a correspondent on The Serpentine to take photographs from a head-on angle, and a correspondent in the media area to bring updates as they happen - watch this space!

1:05pm

The Red Bull Flugtag 2008 has officially launched! The first team is ready on the ramp, giant screens displaying camera shots around Hyde Park - the emcees are on the ramp getting the crowd revved up for what promises to be a fantastic day of entertainment and humour. The judges are taking their positions in the pontoons - details of them are above!

3:00pm

After a good number of teams, the cloud has started to come in and the weather is getting colder - but that hasn't stopped 80,000 people turning out to watch these truly entertaining performances and nosedives! The scoring system has changed - please see the updated scoreboard below!

We have been treated to some sychronised swimming - undeterred by the building rain and the freezing cold of the Serpentine. The judges are currently showing off their bribes - including balloon sculptures, t-shirts, and alcohol!

4:00pm

As the next team plunges off the ramp, doing a backflip as they go, and with angels falling into the Serpentine, we reach the halfway point. The rain is holding off for now, although a cold breeze has come along. Wikinews is stationed inside the Media Area on the South bank of the Serpentine, with a perfect view of the ramp and a reply screen next to us - and we have a photographer out and around the site. More photos will be available after the event - as our bandwidth is limited here.

4:30pm

We have just had the longest distance flown today by The Cullinan Bird, gaining the maximum 30 points for distance (15 metres, however the glider flew much further than that).

5:05pm

The show is currently on hold due to a problem in the lake - they are unable to retrieve one of the flying machines. We are being treated to a kite show with music - and the crowd has a chance to use the extensive on-site facilities!

6:15pm

As the last competitors start plunging off the ramp, it's time for Wikinews to leave the scene! Below are the final scores that we caught with 5 competitors left to take the dive.


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Fußball-Bundesliga 2008–09: Goalkeeper Butt signs with Bayern Munich

June 4, 2008

Bayern Munich have signed former Germany International Goalkeeper Hans-Jörg Butt to a 2 year contract. Butt played in Portugal last season for Benfica. The deal means Bayern Munich have successfully completed their search for a new back-up goalkeeper for new Number One Goalkeeper Michael Rensing.

Bayern chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge said, "We’re very pleased with this transfer, as Hans-Jörg Butt’s international experience fits our requirements exactly." Rummenigge went on to further say, "We want Hans-Jörg Butt to support the development of our young goalkeeper Michael Rensing, and he’s looking forward to this task at Bayern Munich."

Hans-Jörg Butt contested the 2001-02 Champions League final with Bayer Leverkusen where they fell 2-1 to Real Madrid.


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2008 COMPUTEX Taipei: Another insight of "Design"

June 9, 2008 This year's COMPUTEX Taipei showcased vast ICT products and innovative designs. According to the Taiwan Design Center (TDC), Taiwan positioned a stable place in industrial and students' designs after winning several international design awards including G-mark, Red Dot, and iF.

To promote the design of Taiwan into the world, not only pavilions from the Taiwan Excellence Gold & Silver Awards, d & i Award of COMPUTEX, Best Choice of COMPUTEX, and Taiwan Design Innovation Pavilion, the TDC & Taiwan External Trade Development Council also held the "Design Think Forum" to examine and forecast the design industry in Taiwan on the 2nd Day of COMPUTEX (June 4).

Transformations from strategic innovation and organization design will be the critical elements for an enterprise who wanted to be grown up and competitive in the world. The growth of an industry is built with not only the basic infrastructure of hardware and economy but also some key elements including design, traditional culture, and creativity. In the "TAITRA ICT 5-Stars Press Conference", Walter Yeh, Vice President of Taiwan External Trade Development Council, talked to Wikinews Journalist Rico Shen about "Design", he said:

We [the TAITRA] did a good attempt on 'iF Design Award Pavilion' at 2007 TAITRONICS (a.k.a Taipei International Electronics Show) and it [the pavilion] was highly respected by several industries not only the design [industry]. This year, we'll still promote this pavilion to market the design of Taiwan into the world. In addition, we invited several world-class juries from vast fields to keep several innovation awards more fair and professional in every Taipei Trade Shows.

Besides of the "iF Design Award Pavilion" at TAITRONICS 2008, the 2008 2nd Taiwan International Culture and Creative Industries Exhibition (a.k.a Creative Taiwan), which will be showcased at Taipei World Trade Center on October 23 - 26, will be a critical trade show for cultural, design, and creative industries. As a result, the growth of design industry will pulse the future of the other industries including the ICT.


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Wikinews Shorts: June 4, 2008

German defense minister: Troops to be in Afghanistan for years
Franz Josef Jung, the German defense Minister, today said that troops may remain in Afghanistan for as long as ten years. He said that troops should withdraw when the Afghan troops are able to manage the incidents in the country.

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Police: Theft of railway track could have cause crash
Police have claimed that the theft of 171 tonnes of railway tacks from a train line between London and Wales could have resulted in a serious crash. “A piece of railtrack could have struck a passing train and caused a serious rail crash, but fortunately this did not happen,” said the local police, in a statement. Anthony Porretta recently pleaded guilty of the theft at Bristol Crown Court.

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Audio tape indicating Canadian PM involved in bribery alleged to be doctored

June 4, 2008 The Conservative Party of Canada is now considering a 2005 recording of Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper discussing "financial considerations" offered to the late Member of Parliament (MP) Chuck Cadman to have been "doctored".

The tape contains a conversation between Harper and Vancouver journalist Tom Zytaruk, whose book "Like a Rock: The Chuck Cadman Story" claims that Conservative party officials had offered a C$1 million life insurance policy to Cadman in exchange for a key swing vote against the Liberal Party, one of Canada's other main political parties. At the time of the alleged bribe, Cadman had already been diagnosed with terminal cancer.

Conservative MP James Moore told reporters today that the tape had been altered, "including the insertion of a fabricated sound-bite." However, he would not comment on whether or not the edits had changed the meaning of Harper's words.

The Liberal party had submitted the recording as evidence that Harper was aware of the Cadman insurance offer. Cadman's widow, Dona Cadman, has confirmed that the offer was presented to her husband. Conservatives deny the allegation, but say that party representatives had offered him a loan for campaign expenses if the MP were to rejoin the party.

Harper has filed a lawsuit against the Liberal party, the Canadian government's official opposition.


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Tsvangirai released by Zimbabwean police

June 4, 2008

Morgan Tsvangirai and about 14 other members of the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) party have been released by police after being held for about eight hours at a police station in Lupane, Zimbabwe.

"It is nothing but the usual harassment which is totally unnecessary," Tsvangirai told Agence France-Presse. "We have seen worse things than this."

Tsvangirai's convoy was stopped at a roadblock earlier today, while campaigning in June 27 presidential run-off election. President Robert Mugabe is the incumbent.

No charges have been filed against Tsvangirai or the MDC members, but authorities have kept the vehicles in which they were traveling.

President Mugabe disputed the reports as concocted by the MDC to curry favor internationally. Mugabe is currently in Rome, Italy for the United Nations World Food Summit.

While Tsvangirai was detained, many governments and NGOs called for his release, including the United States and the European Union.

"We are deeply concerned on the report of the arrest of Tsvangirai," said an official from the Presidency of the Council of the European Union. "We urge the authorities to release him immediately and to resist from all harassment of opposition members."

Sean McCormack of the United States Department of State said Tsvangirai should be released "unharmed and untouched."

"But we are deeply concerned about whether or not the proper conditions exist for a free and fair election," McCormack added. "We continue to call on the Zimbabwean government to create these conditions. But, given their history, that call also comes with a healthy does of skepticism."

On Monday, President George W. Bush said, "The continued use of government-sponsored violence in Zimbabwe, including unwarranted arrests and intimidation of opposition figures, to prevent the Movement for Democratic Change from campaigning freely ahead of the June 27 presidential runoff election is deplorable."


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I still cannot believe...
Gosh, I was praying for you, Agata. I was hoping to see your optimism and will of fight once again. :( I love you, I hope, wherever you are, you are calm and happy. However, you did something beautiful...you sacrified your life to someone...that is unbelievebly much. We all love you

--Joanna and family

It's so sad!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.101.176.194 (talk) 09:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


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Woman robs pawn shop by swallowing stolen goods

June 8, 2008

On May 27, 2008, in Salt Lake City, Utah, a woman stole two 14-karat gold bracelets from a pawn shop by swallowing them, as shown by a surveillance tape. The bracelets were worth US$2000 each according to the pawn shop.

The clerk noticed the bracelets were missing minutes after she had swallowed them and asked the woman for an explanation. She responded, "You can search me." The bracelets were not found. It was only clear who the thief was after the shop reviewed the surveillance footage.

Norma Porchas-Robles, 41, who had been a regular customer at the shop for over four years, has been charged with retail theft and will appear in court June 19. The pawn shop, however, must continue to do business with her, as she had pawned several items which have not yet been sold.


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How much do you want to be this will be only child after having a baby grow inside like that. --TUFKAAP (talk) 23:46, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

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U.S. ISPs to test restricting heavy Internet users

June 5, 2008 On June 3rd, 2008, two United States Internet service providers (ISPs) announced they would begin tests to slow web access for their most active customers and charge them for extra speed. Comcast and Time Warner Cable, two of the largest ISPs in North America, both made separate announcements of their plans. The actions come in the wake of an investigation by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), over whether Comcast had restricted some customers from sharing videos, music, and similar files. The FCC investigation led to a US Congress debate over whether and how much control ISPs should have over the flow of customer data.

Public interest groups complained in November 2007 to the FCC that Comcast had specifically targeted customers using applications that made use of the BitTorrent system, a popular form of file sharing. Free Press, an advocacy group that pushes for better oversight of cable operators such as Comcast, stated that Comcast practices were discriminatory towards users of the legal technology. "The cable companies see a hammer hovering above their heads and are scrambling to find ways to reduce the appearance of wrongdoing," said Ben Scott, head of the group.

According to Roger Entner, a senior vice president from Nielsen IAG, as little as 5 percent of all Internet users may consume as much as 50 percent of all the bandwidth on the Internet. "This is the politically correct version of doing what Comcast had been doing before, though it takes the occasional [peer-to-peer] user off the hook," Entner said. Sena Fitzmaurice, a Comcast spokesperson, said, "This says we won't be looking at what type of traffic that there is, even though we still need to manage the network."

Comcast's tests are expected to begin in Chambersburg, Pennsylvania and Warrenton, Virginia.

While Comcast will attempt to throttle the speed of all its high-volume users, Time Warner Cable intends to use a different method. They will meter and bill clients, charging more money for faster speeds and larger amounts of transmitted data, functioning more like a traditional public utility, such as an electric company or cell phone service. Their metered billing test will begin on June 5 in Beaumont, Texas for newly enrolled customers. "Instead of raising prices across the board, consumers who are excessive users would pay," said Alex Dudley, a Time Warner Cable spokesman. "It is clearly the fairest way to fund the investment that is going to be required to support that use."

An Associated Press report that Time Warner Cable will bill customers between $29.95 to $54.90USD per month has been confirmed by the cable operator, with clients charged an extra $1 for each gigabyte (GB) by which they exceed their purchased plan. Art Brodsky, communications director of Public Knowledge, a consumer advocacy group in Washington D.C., has expressed concerns about the Time Warner Cable plan. Time Warner Cable's most expensive offering, $54.90, comes with 15 megabits-per-second of data transfer speed and a 40 gigabyte limit on total data transfer.

"An HD (high-definition) movie is 8GB or so, three movies is more than half your allowance for a month, and heaven knows what else you might want to watch," Brodsky says. "This is not a relieving congestion scheme as much as it is a rationing scheme. All it does is protect an inadequate infrastructure from the cable company."


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NHL: Detroit wins the 2008 Stanley Cup

June 5, 2008

The Detroit Red Wings won their 11th Stanley Cup in National Hockey League (NHL) history on Wednesday. The Red Wings won the sixth game of the championship finals by a 3-2 score against the Pittsburgh Penguins at Mellon Arena in Pittsburgh. The Conn Smythe Trophy, an individual player award, was presented to Henrik Zetterberg.

Pittsburgh last won the Stanley Cup in 1992 and was seeking its third Cup in the playoffs. The Stanley Cup is the most prominent contest in North American ice hockey.

Game synopsis
Detroit's Brian Rafalski scored the only goal in the first period. The Red Wings increased their lead with another goal in the second period by Valtteri Filppula. Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin scored Pittsburgh's first goal of the game, also in the second period.

In the third period, Henrik Zetterberg earned Detroit's third goal of the game. In the final two minutes, Pittsburgh's Sergei Gonchar reduced Detroit's lead to 3-2, but the Penguins could not force a tie at the end.

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Comments:U.S. ISPs to test restricting heavy Internet users

It may be interesting so see what effects this has. What initially comes to mind is that this may make mesh technology look more appealing for a variety of reasons. That is mostly speculation, though. --Remi (talk) 01:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

=So Ends The Internet= This is fucking bullshit. The whole point of the internet is that it is unrationed. It is the last free place left on this fucking planet, and now these cable companies are going to fucking destroy it. I will not purchase internet from one of these companies if they continue to do this. I have seen the birth of the internet, and now it seems, i will see its demise. ! Rekov (talk) 01:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Sounds familiar
So, people who download lots either get charged extra, or have their speed restricted? Sounds like Australian ISPs to me. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 02:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Has it always been that way in Australia? How do the rates and what you get compare to these plans? rootology (T ) 03:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, it's highly variable depending on your provider, and our broadband network currently sucks (we've got ADSL and ADSL2+ in urban centres close to telephone exchanges, cable where the cable TV is available, and if you're out in rural/regional Australia better be prepared to pay for satellite). For a bit of comparison: Telstra Bigpond, provided by a partially government-owned telecom, and one of the most complained-about ISPs, offers ADSL2+ for $160/60GB with 15c/MB (yes, MB) excess download costs or $110/25GB shaped (that's our term for "rate limited") at the top end. Looking at some of the most popular ISPs listed by http://www.whirlpool.net.au, you can get $150/100GB with Internode, $130/100GB with TPG. Besides Telstra, it looks like most of them don't do "excess charge" plans except at their very bottom end, and 15c/MB is common. I'm sure I've seen a plan somewhere (might have been a cable plan) that had more reasonable /MB charges (on the order of fractions of cents per MB). You will also notice that some ISPs like OptusNet and AAPT actually include uploads in the limits, presumably in some sort of effort to stop you running a server on your home plan (like BitTorrent). For reference, the current exchange rate is about $AU1 = $US0.90. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 04:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Holy crap. $100 or more USD for metered on those limits is crazy. I pay $45USD for unlimited now, and average about 8mbps down/1.5 up!! Wow. rootology (T ) 05:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This is right, Australia sucks :( - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 08:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

We created it
The goodthing about internet is that we created it, so why cant we increase the bandwidth anyways...its not like a public utility where we are consuming excessive human resources. The extra power can come from clean energy sources also —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.86.104.228 (talk) 03:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Theres only the problem that the Internet for these providers is privately owned, here in the US. Unless the government intervenes its technically all fair game for the companies. rootology (T ) 03:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

ary they trying too
monopolize the internet? cuz i think that kinda illegal to be a monopoly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.25.248 (talk) 03:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This isn't a monopoly, since the US does not control the Internet. People from countries without stupid or greedy ISPs can still get unfettered access, the way it should be. b2xiao talk 04:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

FOURTY gigabytes per MONTH?
That's simply bollocks. At the speeds that the $54.90 package gives, 15 Mbps = 1.875 MB/s = 6750 MB/hr = 6.6 GB/hr = 40 GB in only 6 hours. In six hours of intensive downloading, which is what someone might do by streaming HD video or hard-core torrenting, they could use up an entire month's worth of bandwidth. Theoretically, they could suck back 4 TB of bandwidth in a month, putting them 4000 dollars in debt. That's just insane. I am glad that such metering hasn't occurred (yet) in Canada, and I sincerely hope it stays that way. b2xiao talk 04:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that's the point, to discourage high volume usage, unfortunately. I don't even download big stuff often--itunes here and there, every couple of months; we watch maybe 1-6 hours per month of Netflix streaming; youtube a lot; lots of browsing; and some work stuff, and some MMOs. We'd be over the limits without even trying in 2-3 weeks. rootology (T ) 04:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I realize that this is the reason behind the restrictions, but even out here, we've got a $90 "no strings attached" 25 Mbps service -- my friend has this as he is a really heavy user, and has downloaded hundreds of gigabytes per week without any trouble from the ISP. It's a lot more expensive, sure, but at least the company knows it's going to expect heavy usage for that fee. Time-Warner, on the other hand, seems to seriously underestimate what a 15 Mbps line can pull down. They should remove the limit, and if needed, increase the price (hell, if I had money for a few more HDDs, I'd probably go for a $90 unlimited plan). b2xiao talk 04:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Amen to that. A guy I know (on the same ISP as me, same plan, virtually the same speeds) is a download fiend. He's in some private IRC arrangement with people "overseas" as he describes it. Or as I call it, his 24x7 video store--its absurd how much he pulls down on such a light plan. But yes, they need to adjust the base pricing, not meter it. rootology (T ) 05:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've heard of some plans, I'm pretty sure here in Canada, b2xiao, that call themselves "unlimited" but that's only in name, and there actually is a limit. I can't say I know too much more than that, I know I go over my limit monthly, but I've never actually been charged over it, just warned a ton of times, so... plans are screwed up here, that's for sure. -24.141.144.157 09:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, even moderate and unquestionably-legal users can burn through 40 GB in a month rather quickly. A one-hour TV show on iTunes (45 minutes nonstop time), legally purchased, is over half a gigabyte.  And that's just using iTunes, PlayStation Store or Xbox Live.  Gamers would never be able to function in this kind of ration.  If you're going to give people speed, you better be able to handle the data. --Kitch (talk) 11:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

capitalism at it's best
It's all about money. The internet is quickly becoming the new 'oil'. Where I am, Comcast is it. Oh, there's dial-up.. uh.. sure. Yes, I have Netflix and watch a movie every night on the streaming service. So what ?? My bandwidth is often fantastic. I often do a speed test and I've seen speeds that exceed the service I have. Hmmmm.... I don't like the 'charge as you go' scheme at all.. how will that implement when urban areas finally have fiber optic to the computer capacity. Unreal bandwidth offering HD movies in real time. Will I end up paying as much as a theater ?? What would be the point then ? All types of video are fast becoming the media of choice for communications between folks worldwide. It's finally cheap enough for everyone to utilize. So, of course, the powers that be (Time Warner, Comcast, etc.) want to get a precedent in place, now, to meter and profit from this. Go figure. Lastly... is there a choice (in the long run) ?? Probably not. Once the infrastructure is privately owned, then there will be no way that an average user can avoid high costs. How would you do it ? Any wire, cable, or fiber optic coming to your home will belong to someone. Even wireless eventually will go into that system. Of course our government (USA) will play the game and prevent competition so there will be only a select few companies in the game. Think oil, again. Not a monopoly.. but very cooperative with one another to totally control the market place. The internet as we know it is doomed... -67.181.192.146 —Preceding comment was added at 17:17, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * "Of course our government (USA) will play the game and prevent competition so there will be only a select few companies in the game." So that makes it the fault of the market?  Trust me, if you want your Freedoms to be curtailed a thousand times more, let the government handle it (think phone tapping on a much grander and easier-to-do scale).  Fephisto (talk) 00:49, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

WTF
People PAY for a service. They PAY for the internet. The companies IMO have no right to restrict access to the internet unless they expect to incredibly lower their fees. This is almost censorship in a way. Lets see if we can target anyone we want, even though they might be using the internet for legit purposes...i.e. not downloading/trading music/movies, illegal stuff etc. "Instead of raising prices across the board, consumers who are excessive users would pay," according to Time Warner. That will lead to higher prices. You cannot single out a crowd. If the FCC or the government had any sense left in them, they would stop this from happening. Don't restrict information. What ever happened to our 'Bill of Rights'? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Not a failure of Capitalism Guys
When I saw this article, I almost immediately thought, "SCHWEAT BUZINESS OPPORTUNITY". What's the cost for running cable? Even if it's millions, it shouldn't be hard to undercut these tards. Fephisto (talk) 00:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

You get what you pay for???
Here in the UK where I live many ISPs have been doing this for a while now. It's almost expected and we consider ourselves lucky if we're only bandwidth throttled lightly. Some ISPs have become notorious for slowing 8mbit connections right down to modem-esque speeds for little reason other than it being 'peak hours'.

I feel that you guys are missing the point here though: You are paying for a connection of speed X. If you use the connection to check your email, etc, which doesn't require the full potential of your connection then the ISP has no problem. If you then do some heavy downloading then they cut your speed down to a slower rate. You're effectively not getting what you are paying them for. If you bought a sandwich would you accept it if they told you that it'd cost $10.... providing that you don't eat it? Would you be ok if you had to pay an extra $1 for every bite you took from your own sandwich? IMHO it is criminal to take something away from someone that they have bought legally just because they are trying to use it. Here in the UK it is too late already. Most ISPs write the use of bandwidth throttling in to their EULAs and it has become normal. I wouldn't stand for it though if I had signed a contract for unlimited bandwidth and they suddenly spring this on me. My advice: Petition! And vote with your subscription fees. Shane.Bell (talk) 08:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I think they're doing the right thing
As a side note -- this news story came across to me as expressing a POV...the POV that what is being done isn't right/good. Just like Wikipedia, Wikinews should strive for neutrality...that's the basis of quality journalism. Moving on...

We've all gotten used to the Internet being something where we pay a set monthly fee, and that's it...we can take as much as we want. But it hasn't always been this way. WAY back in the early days of American Online (AOL) dial-up, you paid by-the-hour...which is essentially what they're testing out now, you pay for how much you use. That's how phone service, water service, electric service, gas service, food, clothing, and everything else works...the more you take, the more you pay. It's the same way with earning money...the more you work, the more you earn. It seems fair to me that folks who get more, pay more for it. If some little old lady only uses the Internet to check her email, why should she pay as much as someone who sits on BitTorrent or LimeWire pirating tons of videos? She shouldn't. She ought to be paying less than the guy sucking up a few hundred times more bandwidth.

We've all gotten used to the freely-take-as-much-as-you-want setup...but just because it's convenient and cool, doesn't mean that we're entitled to have it that way. We're not entitled to have the Internet any more than we're entitled to have water or food or heat in the winter or air conditioning in the summer...if you want those things, you have to pay for them, and just as the city who provides me water is entitled to set the cost, so is my ISP entitled to set the cost of the Internet service they provide me. If I'm a business selling a product or service, it's mine to sell, and mine to decide how much I'm going to charge. If someone doesn't want to pay it, that's their decision. The Internet is a luxury, not a necessity.

That said, it would be cool if there was an "unlimited plan"...like some phone companies have, where you can pay a set fee and have unlimited monthly long distance. If I want, I can buy that luxury...but the folks who don't want it, don't have to pay as much as I do. That's only fair. 24.163.43.112 23:27, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


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This story, though in a developmental stage, does not include statements from ISPs/cable providers. --SVTCobra 01:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It does... "Instead of raising prices across the board, consumers who are excessive users would pay," said Alex Dudley, a Time Warner Cable spokesman. "It is clearly the fairest way to fund the investment that is going to be required to support that use." and Sena Fitzmaurice, a Comcast spokesperson, said, "This says we won't be looking at what type of traffic that there is, even though we still need to manage the network." rootology (T ) 01:46, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


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Al-Qaeda just can't let it go. --Kitch (talk) 02:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


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U.S. Navy forced to give up on Burma relief

June 5, 2008

The United States was forced to withdraw from its  relief efforts in Burma/Myanmar today due to the continued refusal of the ruling  government to allow the delivery of aid. Four U.S. naval ships were ordered to depart from the area on Thursday. After 15 failed attempts to convince the ruling military junta to allow U.S. helicopters to deliver much needed supplies to areas such as the, Admiral , the head of the , indicated that they were left with no choice but to leave.

"I am both saddened and frustrated to know that we have been in a position to help ease the suffering of hundreds of thousands of people ... but have been unable to do so because of the unrelenting positions of the Burma military junta," Keating said via his headquarters. He said that the U.S. would still be willing to offer help if the junta simply allowed them in.

The and  navies have also been forced to withdraw due to the junta's unwillingness to allow them to provide assistance to cyclone victims. (UN) Secretary-General had been previously assured by the ruling Burmese generals that relief workers would be allowed to help, but reports indicate this has still not happened on the ground. The UN, in its latest report on the situation, noted that Burma was faced with a "serious lack of sustained humanitarian assistance for the affected populations."

Foreign aid agencies already in place and trying to help victims have reported that they continue to face problems in delivering large volumes of relief supplies in the affected regions. The U.S. naval ships had 22 heavy-lift helicopters that would have been ideally suited to the task. "Important heavy-lifting capability in the delta would have been a standard operating procedure for relief agencies in the response," said Paul Risley of the. The UN group has been trying to get ten civilian helicopters to fill the role in the interim, but the Burmese authorities have still not allowed nine of the civilian aircraft to be used in the relief efforts.

To date, the Burmese military has allowed 106 airlifts of foreign supplies to occur, but only into, the largest city in the nation. Those delivered supplies are slated to be forwarded to the areas devastated by the cyclone. However, the ruling junta has refused to allow inland flights of foreign military helicopters to deliver relief aid. The junta believes they have sufficient abilities to deliver the resources but foreign analysts believe that the group does not wish to demonstrate to the Burmese people that it needs outside help. Doctors Without Borders has said that the relief efforts to date are not enough, and that many remote areas have received no assistance.

The UN determined that Burma may need relief efforts for a year. The has found that 495,000 acres of rice production areas have been damaged out of a total of 2.5 million acres. The areas are either still under too much water to sustain crops, or have been contaminated by seawater during Cyclone Nargis. According to Risley, the year-long importing of rice would be required as the damage was done just before the normal planting season. "This year's crop will not meet requirements," Risley said. "The losses to the production of rice are very deep. It would be typical for the WFP to provide food rations through the next harvest, which could be a year away."

Access by foreigners to Burma has been generally restricted since the cyclone. Visas and travel permission to affected areas have been limited by the government. The reported that "the small number of visas and the short duration of travel permits for access" into the areas in need of aid "continue to impose serious constraints on the effectiveness of overall operations." The has said that, as of yet, there appears to be no "second wave" of deaths in the wake of the blocked relief efforts, which may be a sign of hope.

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U.S. teens generally reducing risky behavior says CDC

June 11, 2008 On June 4, a report published by the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) showed that in the past 16 years high school students have become less likely to engage in health risk-related behaviors such as having sex and taking drugs. However, the CDC found that Hispanic students were less likely to have reduced risky behavior when compared to Black and White students in several key areas.

The National Youth Risk Behavior Survey (YRBS) is run by the CDC every two years, and is an anonymous, self-administered survey of students in grades 9 to 12. In the 2007 YRBS, over 14,000 students were surveyed from across 44 U.S. states, 5 territories, and several individual school districts. The combined statistics used results from 39 states and 22 large urban school districts.

The survey showed that males were more likely than females to engage in most behaviors involving violence or risk of unintentional injury, including driving while drinking alcohol, carrying a weapon, and being involved in a physical fight, although females were more likely to have contemplated or attempted suicide. Males were also more likely to have smoked tobacco or marijuana, engaged in heavy drinking, or engaged in sexual intercourse, while females were more likely to have fasted for 24 hours or more, vomited or taken laxatives in order to lose weight. While the proportions of White and Black students who had ever had sexual intercourse, and who had had sex with four or more partners in their lifetimes, all dropped over the period 1991-2007, there was no change in either of these statistics for the Hispanic population. Compared to their counterparts in the 1990s however, Hispanic students in 2007 were found to be more likely to have used a condom during their most recent sexual intercourse, and less likely to have consumed drugs such as cigarettes, alcohol and marijuana.

Hispanic students were more likely than White or Black students to go without food for 24 hours to lose weight, to take drugs such as heroin or cocaine, to drink alcohol on school property, and to have avoided school on occasion because of safety concerns.

In comparison with previous YRBS results, the survey found that the percentage of students who had ever had sexual intercourse decreased from 54.1% in 1991 to 47.8% in 2007, with a comparable decrease in the percentage who had had four or more sexual partners, from 18.7% to 14.9%. Decreases were also found in the percentage of students who had attempted suicide, who rode in a car with a driver who had been drinking alcohol, and who had smoked marijuana in the past month, but an increase in the percentage who had avoided school on occasion because of safety concerns (from 4.4% in 1993 to 5.5% in 2007).

"We are pleased that more high school students today are doing things that will help them stay healthy and avoiding things that put their health in danger. Unfortunately we are not seeing that same progress among Hispanic teens for certain risk factors," said Howell Wechsler, Ed.D., MPH, director of CDC’s Division of Adolescent and School Health.


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 * I'm reading through the website - so far most of what I've covered can be sourced to the "history of participation" and "sex subgroups" pages, as well as the press release. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 04:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

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I do not like this sentence: However, Hispanic teens showed greater prevalence of many behaviors than their white and black counterparts, and had not made as much progress in several key areas. Prevalence of what behaviors? What marks progress? In the 60s many would probably have said more sex, more drugs, more rock is progress. --SVTCobra 01:32, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

 * It's meant to relate to the previous sentence, where it mentions a decrease in the amount of risk-taking behaviour and, I thought, equated that with "progress". It's also related to the quote at the end of the article, where Howell Weschler directly ties "avoiding things that put their health in danger" to progress. As to the "many behaviors" where Hispanics show greater prevalence, that's discussed in part later in the article and then mostly on the CDC site. I agree "many" or even "several" sounds a bit weaselly, so I'll try to reword it. I welcome any suggestions as to how to do it. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 05:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

 * I rewrote that sentence. See if you think it is OK. --SVTCobra 00:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


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Category:June 9, 2008

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title: Category:June 9, 2008