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User talk:Pingswept

Archive of stuff from early 2005

Boston Globe
You were mentioned in the Boston Globe. My mom, who lives in Cambridge, sent me the news clipping by snail mail. Oh, sorry, you might not know me. I'm Uncle Ed from the English wikipedia. Ed Poor 30 June 2005 01:52 (UTC)

 * Thanks, Ed. I discovered recently that *lots* of people read the Boston Globe-- everyone's mom seems to be sending them clippings. Anyway, thanks for the tip. Pingswept 8 July 2005 18:54 (UTC)

An invitation
I'm attempting to start up a new edition of Wikinews, one with a simpler user contributions system at Wikinews/Start a new edition. The goals of this project would be to simplify the process of submitting articles such that anyone with no knowledge of the Mediawiki software or the Wikimedia projects culture can easily understand and submit an article, and immediately see it on the main page developing articles section.

If you would be interested in supporting this project I would be pleased if you would sign up at the Meta page.

 * There seems to be some controversy about this. I'm going to hold off on weighing in until I think about it some more. Who are you, by the way? Pingswept 8 July 2005 18:55 (UTC)

 * That original invitation was by Amgine. Are you back from your wikivacation? -- IlyaHaykinson 8 July 2005 19:02 (UTC)

I'd like to interview you
I'm working on a report about user-contributed content for Jupiter Research, and I'm interested in getting the perspective of someone who knows Wikinews. Lisa Williams at http://h2otown.info suggested I talk to you.

FWIW, I have my own news blog at http://coastsider.com

Barry Parr bparr@jupitermedia.com

 * Hi Barry,
 * I just sent you an email. And hi everyone. Pingswept 04:06, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Mr. Parr, I would also be interested in being interviewed if you want another perspective. -- NGerda 04:13, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

For a good time...
See this proposal. Add sights, sounds, people :) Sj
 * And come back, shane! Sj

=My extended wikivacation has ended.= In the spring of 2005, I had a discouraging job in the product design field, followed by a period of no job, both of which led to extreme Wikinews usage. I worked at a boys' summer camp in Maine last summer, so I didn't have time or regular access to the interweb. At the end of the summer, I scored a delightful new job as the chief technology guy at the same institution, which meant that my available time for Wikinews went way down.

Strangely, I have been doing ever more with wikis, even as my Wikinews contributions have dropped off. I gave a talk at the MEBSR conference in Belfast, Maine, about wikis as a collaborative tool for businesses, and I've installed several wikis (well, 2) for internal use at the environmental foundation that now employs me.

Anyway. I'm going to try to make more of an effort to contribute to Wikinews. Wikimania 2006 is taking place about 4 blocks from my house in Cambridge, MA, so my general level of wiki excitement is still growing. So, hi ho, everyone! Pingswept 19:19, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Glad your back. By the way thanks for getting the photo test off the main page. I feel really stupid right now that I forgot that the publish tag would publish it and still be there one I copied and pasted it. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 00:04, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Unstrangely, u installed a couple wikis at your environmental foundation... :) sounds collaborative! -Edbrown05 01:58, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Somehow I end up being both the biggest hippie there, wanting to install wikis and such, and yet simultaneously the least hippieish, being obsessed with computers instead of trees and rainbows. But, I get paid to install wikis-- I have no complaints. Pingswept 05:00, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I am quite happy for you to be back as well. I arrived at Wikinews after you started your wikibreak; glad to meet you now! --Chiacomo (talk) 05:22, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

reporter with questions
Hi Pingswept,

My name is Chris Thompson, and I'm a reporter with the East Bay Express. I'm working on a story about the Dorean Group and am intrigued by the letter you got from its neighbors. Could you call me at 510-879-3766?

= MS office Kiswahili =

Hi, I'm Gozar from the en wikipedia. i just read this article and thought you might be interested. I searched for Swahili open-source word processors immediately after reading the above article and found your news bit on the Jambo open-office (will be checking out the site momentarily). I'm not surprised that it looks like MS doesnt want to miss out on selling stuff to (exploiting) East Africans!--Gozar 15:17, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Image licenses
Could you please insert license to your images at Commons from GPL3 draft presentation? It's quite urgent thing.

BTW, congratulations for the article. --Derbeth 09:32, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Done. Nice catch-- I had added the license to one image, but not the other. Pingswept 02:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

= Account rename =

I'm not sure where to ask (please point me in the right direction), but where can I go to ask for an account rename? Thanks. - Nathan 20:05, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Hi Nathan,
 * I assume you've figured this out by now; let me know if you're still stuck. Pingswept 12:24, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Rfda
This is a message to inform you that I have added every administrator to the Rfda section on WN:A. This is not personal and I feel as if the community, who did not have the option of voting for or against most of the administrators, should be able to choose who they want to be in charge. I also want to say that I value everyones work on this site and I know that everyone does their best. I hope that none of you will take this personally and I hope that all of us will continue to work together. Jason Safoutin 12:24, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Miss you!
Hey Pingswept! A few of us were sitting around at a Wikimania meeting talking about how we haven't heard from you in a while, so I thought I'd drop you a note to say "Howdy!" jkbaumga 20:46, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

-  Amgine | talk en.WN 22:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes! I'll be in Boston from the 3rd until the morning of the 8th. If you'll be in town at all during that time, I have a couple of things for you... (none of them taken from SJ's house, either!) -  Amgine | talk en.WN 23:12, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I think I will be in Boston late on Friday the 4th. It would be fun to hang out for a bit. Unfortunately, I have a flight to Buffalo early Saturday morning. Is there a Wikinews gathering that night? Pingswept 23:25, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Unfortunately, I think only Chiacomo, Mindspillage, and I plan to be attending. But I'm sure we can try to get together on Friday. I'll be staying in Boston, but working the press desk at the conference. I should be available most any time during the events. Will you be able to come down? -  Amgine | talk en.WN 00:00, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

New Policy has users up in smoke
Hello. I am not sure if you check this page anymore, but I thought you might be interested as to what is going on here at Wikinews: Image use policy/New wikimedia policy action plan. I am outraged as well as others...do you have an opinion? DragonFire1024 09:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

RFDA
Please note i have put you up for de-admining at Administrators --Mark Talk to me 16:29, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews credential reconfirmation
Greetings. You have not left any contact information, and so I must ask you through your talk page: are you still interested in keeping your Wikinews press credentials? If you are, inform me through emailing me or my Wikipedia talk page by August 5. MessedRocker (talk) 05:49, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Accreditation Expiration
Greetings, I wanted to let you know that our policy regarding accreditation has recently changed slightly. Specifically we've enacted an automatic expiration of accreditation after 2 years. You can very easily "re-up" your accreditation should you choose to, but at this point in time you're on the Inactive list. As such your accreditation will automatically be revoked on March 15th unless you request otherwise. Currently, posting to the following thread will keep your accreditation. At a later date, all Accredited reporters will be put in for that "re-up", at which time you'll be notified. Thank you, and should you have any questions, feel free to contact me on my talk page. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 20:33, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

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Palestinian election ends, exit polls give Abbas lead

January 9, 2005

Polls have closed in the occupied territories with many exit polls showing that of the seven candidates for Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas has a large lead. Voting ended at 1900 UTC, two hours later than planned due to earlier voting difficulties. While the large influx of late voting added to a heavy turnout means that official totals may be delayed until Monday, the primary results are anything but close.

The Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research's exit poll indicates that Abbas has won 66.3% of the vote, while the next closest candidate polled 19.7%. None of the other candidate gained more than 3.8% of the vote.

Abbas supporters have already begun celebrating, according to correspondents, waving flags and carrying posters of Abbas through the streets. They hope that by winning by a large mandate Abbas will have a strong platform to pursue his policies of negotiation with Israel.

The voting went peacefully for the most part, the most noticeable exception being problems with voter registration and the turning away of hundreds of voters from a large Israeli-run polling station in East Jerusalem.

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User talk:Cap'n Refsmmat/ScienceNews/Ideas

Do you have any ideas for Science and Technology News? If yes, tell me here! Please give me a link to a source as well.

 * Even rats have an ear for language – truly fascinating, in my opinion. -- IlyaHaykinson 01:39, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look at that. Thank you. Cap'n Refsmmat 21:23, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Used it now. Hope you like it! Cap'n Refsmmat 00:09, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Indeed I do. Thanks! -- IlyaHaykinson 00:13, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Just putting this here so I can remember it... Cap'n Refsmmat 00:01, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * And this. Cap'n Refsmmat 01:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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User:Geek~enwikinews

Hi! I've contributed several hundred thousand stories.

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NASA schedules launch date for comet-chasing probe

January 9, 2005 A spacecraft designed to chase a comet and crash onto its surface is scheduled for a launch on January 12, 2005 and 1:48 p.m. EST. In early July the probe, named Deep Impact, will approach Comet Tempel 1 to take a number of measurements and photographs. The probe will then split in two, with one part — containing an 820-pound copper weight — propelling itself towards the path of the comet. Twenty-four hours after separation the comet will crash into the slower-moving impactor, creating a crater 100 meters wide.

Astronomers know little of the nuclei of comets, and this mission was designed to determine the make-up of comets' cores. The event will be watched by many instruments: there are two cameras on the part of the probe that is not getting destroyed, a camera on the impactor will broadcast almost until the crash, and telescopes around Earth will also be aimed at the point of the impact. Scientists hope that by studying the depth of the crater and the material ejected from the comet in the crash they will get a better idea of the core's composition.

The probe is named Deep Impact after a Hollywood movie of the same title. In the movie a comet is bombarded with warheads in order to steer it off a collision course with Earth. Unlike the movie, however, the goal of this mission is not to destroy the comet. Indeed, probe's size makes it very unlikely that the comet will suffer more than a crater: the comet is 3.7 miles wide while the probe is about the size of a washing machine.

The probe will be launched aboard a Delta II rocket from Cape Canaveral in Florida.


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User talk:Geek~enwikinews

Thx 4 teh c0ntribz Joe 22:34, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Welcome
Geek, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Geek. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Geek~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:17, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:31, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks!
Nice catch. - Amgine/talk 02:22, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

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Wikinews:Briefs/January 10, 2005

January 10, 2005

The following stories made international headlines Monday:

Mahmoud Abbas wins Palestinian presidential election
Mahmoud Abbas called as winner of Palestinian Presidential election. Official results still pending examination of all complaints.
 * Sources:BBC News 10 January, 2005, 13:16 GMT

Tsunami relief continues
Despite torrential rain showers in some areas and civil strife verging on warfare in others, international relief workers continue to aid victims in the aftermath of the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami.
 * Sources:The Independent, Reuters, Google News

Earth still 'ringing' from 9.0 quake
Aftershocks of the after-Christmas Indonesian earthquake are still affecting the planet. Scientists liken the global vibrations to Earth ringing like a hard-struck bell.
 * Sources:Economic Times, Google News

Israel: Knesset approves new ruling coalition
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's new government was approved by the Knesset, the Israeli legislature, after a tight vote (58-56). The new ministers from the Labor party were sworn in shortly after.
 * Sources:Seattle Post-Intelligencer, The Globe and Mail

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Talk:Australia to deport asylum seekers to Tsunami Zone

Discussion
Wikinews is still very new, and we haven't yet ironed out all the crinkles. In order to help us figure out our process here, I would like for people to discuss:

 * Why was it thought that a copy-paste of a Press Release sent to a mailing list by someone hoping for media coverage might be a copyright violation? The press release is the primary source, and was clearly labelled for what it was.

 * Why is copying en-masse a press release a copyright violation? Under U.S. law even a press release is covered under copyright unless specifically released under POV. As source material it should be linked to, rather than copied into the body of an article. - Amgine 05:15, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Under Australian Law (where the material was posted by the original source, and where I published it from) there is a specific exemption for Fair dealing in reporting the news, which would, in my non-lawyer opinion, cover it -- never mind whether material published to a mailing list is under protection or not, or whether Press Releases are covered or not (neither of which I know right now).

 * I agree it would be better if linked, but was unable to find a suitable link. I sincerely believe the use would be acceptable to the author, since it's a Press Release, it's purpose is to be used in developing news articles, and that is what we are collaboritively doing here. Hard to use it without all of us being able to see it. I think it would be different if this was not a collaborative news reporting forum.

 * I think US law has similar protections for news reporting. This is something we need to get sorted out, and properly, because it will make a big difference to how usefully we can report the news.Simeon 06:05, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Thinking about this a little more, I think it would be useful if a Press Release Clearing House facility could be set up, as part of wikinews or seperate from it. People with press releases that they want to send out would either email or upload them to a given address, under the understanding that the press release would be globally published on the internet for use by news reporters, under any suitable license they mention, or a default public domain license. I've mentioned this before, and I think it warrants further discussion.

 * At first the site would be unknown to most, but it would still be useful in streamlining the process for cases like this. Some wikinews user would simply email the original source of the press release asking them if they could upload/email the article to the clearing house. This makes it a one-step process for the wikinews user, and a one-step process for the press release originator. And once they know about the facility, it is likely that future releases would be sent there without need for solicitation by us. :) Simeon 06:25, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Why add a source which has nothing to do with the facts present in the story? The Bakhtiyari's were not deliberately deported to the Tsunami-affected region, but happened to be caught there apparently, while in transit. The story linked does not even mention this, referring only to Pakistan and Afghanistan, which are not tsunami affected. If you want to take the story in some direction using that source, please make some change to the story, as it is not clear how that source can be used.

 * Hmm woops! Just found out the family was deported after the Tsunami. Will work on this aspect of the story, and perhaps replace the source with one which focuses on this aspect. Simeon 04:38, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Why remove the byline of Canberra, Australia, which is where the source who made the comments quoted in the intro is (the only content so far), and where the Government concerned is? The byline also presented the date at which the question arose, and continues to be relevent even if facts change, unless the story is deleted.

 * OK, I thought Canberra was where the source was based, perhaps not. I will byline the story as AUSTRALIA. The date was preserved. Simeon 04:48, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * The byline policy is still under discussion; it is generally considered normal journalism practice to use a byline including city name only when the reporter is present at that site. However, there is no policy preventing you from using Canberra; it may be a better choice to simply use the date. - Amgine 05:15, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * I vote that the byline should reflect where the event being reported occurred, since we assume always that the story is being written by multiple, disparate sources, or we wouldn't be here! ;) The byline is very useful to readers to know what the story is about. Eventually we may need to include it in titles, since we are likely to run out of unique namespace otherwise. But in this case, I have changed it to Australia, since I think I may have been wrong about the RAC guy being Canberra based. Simeon 06:05, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Why remove the category suggestions I added?

 * The story is incomplete, and the categories listed covered a very broad range of possible topics. Usually it is better to apply categories to a complete (or nearly) story, avoiding flooding the categories with only marginally related stories. - Amgine 05:15, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Why move to Copy Edit Needed, which is labelled as being stories that are basically ready but need tidy-up? This story still needs to present a Government response, or at least to back up the facts presented by the single source, in my opinion.

 * I personally did not move to copy edit. Don't know who did at the moment - Article workspace is under considerable flux right now. - Amgine 05:15, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

(by the way, it was me that originally submitted the story stub) Simeon 04:26, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Correspondence
Sent to the Minister's office

''Hi,

''I am writing an article about potential deportation of Sri Lankan and other nationals to areas affected by the recent tsunami disaster.

''I wonder if you can tell me

''1) were Sri Lanakan asylum seekers given orders to leave the country on Christmas Eve. Were these the first notice that they had of this planned deportation?

''2) are they now able to apply for visa extensions using the hotline advertised on your site http://www.dimia.gov.au/media_releases/media05/d05001.htm

''3) do asylum seekers from Aceh in Indonesia, or any other locations primarily or secondarily affected by the tsunami, also face deportation (unless their visas are extended in response)

''4) are the visas going to be automatically extended, or do the people affected need to apply for extension? why?

''5) how long will the visas be extended in the first instance?

''6) are subsequent extensions planned if needed? what assurance do the people affected have of this? I note that DIMIA is notorious for using 'dirty tricks' to speed deportation of reluctant travelers (whether this is true or not, it is widely believed)

''7) what other conditions apply to these visa extensions?

''Thanks in advance for your time,

''Simeon Scott

submitted through http://www.minister.immi.gov.au/contact/index.htm#email

Acknowledgement of receipt received from http://www.minister.immi.gov.au/cgi-bin/formmail.cgi

''Contact with the Minister

''Thank you for your comments.

''They were received today, Mon Jan 10 2005 at 16:22:46, in the office of the Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs.

If you have included a postal address, efforts will be made to respond to your email.

(I did include my postal address in the form, so a reply should be ensuing.) Simeon 05:32, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * OK no response, clearly either it is the wrong contact point for a quick response, or they are stalling. Will seek direct contact with a departmental rep. Simeon 01:11, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Have emailed to a press officer kevin.donnellan at immi.gov.au Simeon 03:32, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 Response from DIMA public affairs received and reproduced below by Simeon 09:09, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC):

as any other nationality.'' affected by the tsunamis and may wish to temporarily extend their stay in Australia should contact DIMIA on 1300 735 683.'' positive consideration to applications from people usually resident in tsunami-affected areas who wish to temporarily extend their stay in Australia. DIMIA staff outside Australia are giving priority to visa applications from persons directly affected by the tsunami.''
 * ''Sri Lankans are subject to the same visa and departure requirements
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Welcome
ChrisW, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Your IRC client setup
Thanks!

I'm down on the boat with the baby laptop (iow: old and slow), and w/o my usual tools. Your IRC client was just the ticket! Works great, and I hope to use it every time I'm down here. Very nice to have. - User:Amgine

Where you gone, Chris?
You appear to be MIA :( Dan100 (Talk) 19:13, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called ChrisW. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name ChrisW~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:15, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

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User talk:66.75.144.124

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Life discovered in extreme environment

January 10, 2005

Around seventy new species of microbes have been discovered in a highly concentrated salt basin of the Mediterranean Sea, so salty that almost half of the liquid is magnesium chloride. Researchers, led by Paul van der Wielen at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands, found abundant colonies of microbes in ancient salty pockets that are devoid of oxygen.

It has been suggested that pools of a similar liquid might be able to exist on Mars, providing a possible niche for simple life to exist there.

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Wells Fargo and Barclay's rumoured to be in merger talks

January 10, 2005

Sunday Express, a tabloid newspaper from the UK reported an anonymous source claiming to be an insider to merger talks between Wells Fargo Bank and Barclays Bank.

The rumoured merger would be a radical break in the kinds of mergers Wells Fargo has done and has said it will continue to do (it is assumed that Wells with the higher market capitalization would be the buyer).

Wells Fargo has previously shown no desire to engage in retail banking outside the United States, and has only expanded internationally in its Consumer Finance business and with certain business services.

Wells Fargo currently has a market value of 100 billion, while Barclays is worth 70 billion. The wire services such as Reuters immediately wrote articles about the rumour. Barclays refused to comment on market speculation (it is standard for all corporations to consistently refuse to comment on all merger speculation).

No reporters have so far been able to reach Wells Fargo for comment. It is claimed that talks have been ongoing since October, although they are said to have stalled and then resumed.

There is however the possibility that Wells Fargo and Barclays could be contemplating a business line sale, instead of a full on merger. One possibility is Barclays selling its "Barclays Global Investor" division back to Wells Fargo.

Wells Fargo (under old management prior to the 1998 merger of Wells Fargo and Norwest Bank) previously sold its Asset Management (mutual fund) business to Barclays in 1995. Renamed Barclays Global Investors, this business remains headquartered in San Francisco, and still has some connections to Wells Fargo's new mutual fund business.

Wells Fargo has a long term goal of deriving around 25% of its revenue from investments and insurance; currently it derives around 15 percent of its revenue from this. The purchase of Barclays Global Investor would significantly move Wells Fargo toward achieving this goal.

Another possibility is Barclays buying the private label (or store branded) credit cards of Wells Fargo Financial. In November, Barclays acquired Juniper, a fast growing player in the US private label credit card business.


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Ooo, cool subject! - Amgine 07:37, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Is this news? this is based on a rumour based on an anonymous source (no relation). Onymous 81.217.21.244 19:22, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * I think that it is news since established news organizations are reporting it. If nothing else, it's worth reporting that other news organizations are reporting this merger. I think that the line should be drawn at reporting fear-causing news that are unsubstantiated, but in this case it's a simple business story. -- IlyaHaykinson 21:42, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Well obviously even simple business rumours shouldnt be reported on here in such an unsubstantiateted state, the only reason this was reported on was because Reuters and others picked up on it. If this turns out to be completely false (we may never know), this shows a lack of discipline on their part.


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User talk:67.180.61.179

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Wikinews:Original reporting

An important part of any online media outlet is their ability to have first-hand access to details, interviews and photographs that haven't already been sifted through other news agencies — allowing us the ability to determine for ourself what is worth reporting about a certain story. To this end, there are a number of Wikinews members who will arrange to do original reporting.

Keep notes
You must be able to provide evidence of everything you include in an original article. Therefore, it is vital that you keep adequate notes, and place your notes on the article's discussion page. Add the Original reporting template (original) to the Sources section of your article. Include everything you can, including (for example) transcripts of interviews and e-mails. You can upload audio files to the Commons. If you don't want to publish notes on Wikinews itself, whether for privacy or length reasons, feel free to e-mail the research to an administrator or an accredited reporter, who should note on the article's talk page that they have received the research notes.

When taking notes, you might try making your own shorthand. Specify what are verbatim quotes.

Ensure you clearly identify yourself on the article's talk page in order for others to know who can verify the evidence. Wikinews has a peer-review process for publication, and a reviewer must have well-defined evidence with which to verify the article. Evidence which is of unknown source is not evidence.

Please do not misrepresent facts or swamp the article with similar unsourced material if unsourced material you have submitted is not being cited.

Ethics
Journalists should follow a Code of Ethics, some aspects of which may be relevant to your conduct when in contact with third-party sources.

If you are planning to report about a demonstration, choose beforehand what side you are going to be on: you can join the protest, or be a neutral reporter. If you go to a protest to participate in it, leave your Wikinews Press Card at home!

Other behaviour is taken for granted in interview situations, which may not be documented in the ethics code, but which should be documented elsewhere. Some is documented below, but it is beyond the scope of this document to give detailed information about how to conduct an interview.

Talking to sources
A good article will have multiple sources quoted, but every article must have multiple sources contacted behind-the-scenes. It is not enough that the subject of the article told you that he or she is "the first Canadian to do a certain action", that he or she "operates the largest website of its genre" or "was fired from his or her job because of comments he or she made about the President". The onus is on you as the reporter, to make sure those facts are correct.

Our articles should not advance an agenda, they are here to inform, not influence. If Person A says that Person B was fired due to theft, go talk to Person B and get the other side of the story as well. Do not judge which side of the story "seems more believable" and then only tell that side — present both sides in a neutral light and let the reader make up their own mind.

Laws vary between nations, but it is typically required that you identify yourself as a reporter to the person with whom you are speaking. You don't need to make this an awkward formality, just work it into your introductions.

"'Hi, I'm Jeff Davies, a local reporter who's covering the arrest outside your restaurant yesterday. I was wondering if I could ask you a couple questions?'"

Again, you must inform the subject if you are going to make an audio recording of the interview. It is best to present it to them as a precaution for their sake. If they ask why you're recording, don't say "So that I have proof of what you said" — simply explain that "I'd like to have it as a reference when writing up the story tonight, because I would hate to accidentally misquote you on anything or leave out one of your salient points". If they're a public figure you can always use a search engine to determine the proper spelling of their name once you get home...but if it's not somebody likely to have already been in a number of news stories, double-check that you have all the names/spellings correct.

As a general legal principle, everything a source tells you before you've identified yourself is "off the record" and cannot be published unless you get them to repeat it for you later. Similarly, if a source tells you anything is "off the record", do not print it. On the other hand, people will often allow you to speak to them for "background material", where they do not wish to be identified in your article — but may still provide you with information nonetheless. Sometimes they will allow this information to be credited to "a police officer on the scene said that...", other times they will demand no reference in the article. Respect their wishes.

Often a source will give you a photograph of their imprisoned brother, their father during the war or some similar family 'photograph' to be used for your story. Ask them if they'd be willing to release the licensing to the image, so that other media outlets can use the photograph in the future if the subject returns in another news story — if you can do it without seeming awkward, direct them towards permissions@wikimedia.org to confirm the release of their image.

When you are unsure of anything, clarify it.

If you speak to someone who deals with the press often, you should be mindful of the fact that such people often become expert at manipulating the impressions of reporters. Your ability to see through manipulation techniques will improve with practice. If your source has more experience in interviews than you do, then it is important to consider what slant the person may want to give your final story, and to make sure that you, rather than the source, decide which details are relevant.

Interviews are best the closer they are to the source: for example, at their workplace instead of over the phone. Information from news releases, phone or e-mail interviews, etc., should be noted as such in the article.

You should normally prepare for interviews by learning some background information. For example, if you profile a mayor, you shouldn't ask him when he was elected. You should be able to learn that elsewhere beforehand.

As long as you have advised your source that you are a reporter, anything they say is presumptively "on the record" and can be quoted. However, sources may expect that only the formal "interview" part of your interaction is going to be used in your story, and may be surprised if you choose to use other material.

Since Wikinews has no, strict, formal approval process for authors, when contacting sources, you must represent yourself as an independent author/researcher, not as a 'representative' of Wikinews. This remains the case if you are an accredited reporter: then, you must introduce yourself as an independent or freelance reporter. You may, of course, inform the source where you hope to publish, but please ensure they understand in this case that your own views and activities are not representative of anyone else who uses Wikinews, nor does the reputation of Wikinews, or lack of reputation of Wikinews, reflect on yourself. Wikinews aims for high standards; meets those set by Google News for listing as a news source (as-per most mainstream sources) but is a volunteer best-effort in regard to reporters' fact-checking and independent editorial review and oversight.

Be polite and act without bias.

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When reporting as a witness of an event, explain briefly in the Original reporting notes section of the Talk page (described above) who you are and why you were present, in relation to the event, in addition to the usual features of the story. In this circumstance you are the source, and others may wish to contact you for verification, interview, or for other details.

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Hi Kmweber,

I replied to your comments about original reporting on the talk page for the proposal. — DV 12:11, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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User:Simeon.A.Scott

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I do not contribute to this wiki, and have not since it was altered from the continuous development style of normal 'wiki' services, to an otherwise indistinguishable but fundamentally opposed style of development where collaborative efforts by disparate contributors such as myself is accepted until being suddenly frozen in state by parties unknown, without negotiation and without opportunity for correction of error or continued effort at improving of an article. I felt betrayed at the time of the change, and wonder what freakish motivation caused this change, and why contributors were either ignored, or what put them in cahoots with the authors of the change? However this development is mirrored in the wider scope of wikimedia enterprises, such as the development (and recursive redevelopment) of increasingly arcane and esoteric markup syntax, publishing of raw IPs of unregistered contributors, etc. Worth reflecting on, but sufficient to drive me to direct my main effort elsewhere.

Please do not attempt to contact or stalk me in any way. All discussion regarding content linked below is correctly addressed at the current maintainers of this site. I accept no responsibility.

Articles I've contributed original reporting

 * April 23, 2005: Controversial Queensland Premier of 19 years dies at 94

Articles where I've made a primary contribution

 * April 28, 2005: UK govt concealed Attorney General's doubts over Iraq invasion
 * April 27, 2005: CIA gives up search and interrogation on Iraq WMDs
 * April 26, 2005: Argentinian workers preparing to defend control of factory
 * April 25, 2005: Study: Children who socialise more, get cancer less
 * April 24, 2005: 5-year-old girl arrested and handcuffed by Florida police
 * April 22, 2005: Advertising contract scandal could bring down Canadian government
 * April 21, 2005: Melbourne's tram-driving teen faces more charges
 * April 20, 2005: Australian blitz on fish poaching
 * April 19, 2005: Teen tram thief may yet work as tram driver
 * April 18, 2005: Unconfirmed: 20 dead, 500 hurt after protest in Iranian city of Ahwaz
 * April 17, 2005: Internet censorship study group reports on China
 * April 16, 2005: Paris hotel fire kills 21
 * April 15, 2005: Australian police seize one tonne shipment of ecstacy
 * April 14, 2005: Chinese authorities question genetically altered rice allegation
 * April 13, 2005: India-China border-treaty hoped to improve ties, facilitate trade
 * April 12, 2005: Australian Immigration denies issuing banned drug
 * April 11, 2005: Arsenic and Thalidomide may be used to fight cancer
 * April 10, 2005: Australia unemployment at 30-year low, but under-employed also at 5.1%
 * April 9, 2005: Angola: Marburg virus still spreading, 180 dead
 * April 9, 2005: Who's the richest entertainer in Australia? The Wiggles of course!
 * April 8, 2005: Sex, mental and physical exercise, fight dementia
 * April 7, 2005: Western Australia apologises to abused wards-of-state
 * April 6, 2005: Study: cognitive therapy as good as medication, but lasts longer
 * April 5, 2005: Triple limb-reattachment fails - boy loses foot
 * April 4, 2005: 13 pilot whales returning to sea, off Western Australia
 * April 2, 2005: Australia, NATO enhance ties
 * April 1, 2005: Iraq: Uneven voter turnout elects women who push sharia law while anti-woman violence rages
 * March 31, 2005: Dresden city council wants DNA matching for doggy-doo
 * March 30, 2005: Monday night's Indonesian quake toll appears less than first feared
 * March 29, 2005: Surgeons reattach boy's three severed limbs
 * March 28, 2005: Australia silent on UN racism committee condemnation
 * March 27, 2005: Guards uncover 600-foot escape tunnel at US prison in Iraq
 * March 26, 2005: Gender imbalance in Tsunami deaths
 * March 24, 2005: India signs on to chemical patents to comply with WTO order
 * March 23, 2005: UN Reform: China, South Korea oppose seat for Japan on Security Council
 * March 23, 2005: 96 dead of Ebola-like Marburg virus in Angola
 * March 23, 2005: AU$1.25M reward offer for proof of living Tasmanian Tiger (Thylacine)
 * March 23, 2005: Australian Govt to lessen indefinite detention of immigrants
 * March 17, 2005: 50 Italian parliamentarians call for global summit for "a new financial architecture"
 * February 17, 2005: Oldest human fossils dated as 200,000yrs old
 * February 6, 2005: Inquiry to be held into Australian immigration detention of Australian woman
 * February 5, 2005: Australian immigration detains Aussie flight attendant for 10mths, and maltreats her
 * January 31, 2005: Survey reveals US student apathy for freedom of speech
 * January 6-25, 2005: Australia to deport asylum seekers to Tsunami Zone
 * December 26, 2004: Australians fast over 2004 Xmas in empathy with detainees

Articles where I've made substantial additions, or editorial work

 * January 30, 2008: "Anonymous" plans to protest Church of Scientology on February 10 .. oh these were reverted because of some beuracratic rule about freezing stories after 24 hrs? /me starts packing bags ....
 * April 12, 2005: KLM flight to Mexico sent back by U.S. Homeland Security, inquiry follows
 * April 10, 2005: Chinese rioters storm Japanese embassy in Beijing
 * April 7, 2005: Bitmover ends free Bitkeeper, replacement sought for managing Linux kernel code
 * April 5, 2005: Hunter S. Thompson obituary spawns conspiracy theory
 * April 3-4, 2005: Aussie rescue chopper down: 9 dead / Australian rescue helicopter crash in Indonesia: nine dead
 * April 3, 2005: World Bank to tighten security belt for Wolfowitz
 * April 3, 2005: China releases 'Human rights report' on US
 * March 25, 2005: Harvard's Berkman Center blog group develops blogging tutorials
 * February 7, 2005: Thaksin Shinawatra leads party to stunning victory in Thailand
 * February 5, 2005: GNU Hurd operating system: first user program run using L4 microkernel
 * February 3, 2005: Eastern Australia hit by severe storms
 * February 1, 2005: Mother of first Australian soldier killed in Iraq expresses anger
 * January 31, 2005: Report: British serial killer murdered 250
 * January 30, 2005: First free Iraqi election begins; insurgents strike
 * January 27, 2005: Sun donates Solaris operating system, 1,600 patents to community
 * January 26, 2005: MST creates Marxist school in Brazil
 * January 22, 2005: Department of Defense report lambasts communication failure in US War on Terror
 * January 22, 2005: Latham quits as Australian Labor leader
 * January 13, 2005: Mamdouh Habib to be released from Guantanamo Bay without charge
 * January 13, 2005: Brazilian President son's photoblog causes polemic
 * January 12, 2005: IBM Releases 500 patents to open source community
 * December 5-26, 2004: Activists protest against School of the Americas

 * Various dates: Writing an article
 * Various dates: Style guide
 * Various dates: Original reporting
 * Various dates: Code of Ethics

Full list of contributions

 * Significant contributions here on wikinews (or list minor contributions as well)

Contact points

 * Essentially none. I'm not interested in this site now.

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Brazilian President son's photoblog causes polemic

January 6, 2005

Friends of the son of the Brazilian President,, have published photos of themselves partying on vacation in. The news caused arguments and protests amongst many Brazilians, with allegations that the government were paying the expenses. The group of teenagers is shown cavorting at the official residences of Granja do Torto and Palácio do Alvorada, both in Brasilia; near a Brazilian Air Force airplane; travelling by motor boat in Paranoá lake; and with Brazilian soccer player.

At first, the photos appeared in the photoblogs www.fotolog.net/tata_lulu, www.fotolog.net/feijao_fodao and www.fotolog.net/gringo_mi. But since the publication of the news by the local newspapers Folha de São Paulo and Estado de São Paulo, the photoblogs were deleted or the photos removed. Some of the photos however, still are available at some user and newspaper sites on the Internet.

Since the incident, several people have created Orkut communities which comment, joke, and protest about what has happened. One of these communities, named "Férias na Alvorada - EU QUERO!" (Vacations at Alvorada - I WANT IT!"), had 450 members as of January 7th.

The Brazilian government declined to comment on the pictures.


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''Critics have been quick to compare this to the $177 million spent every day in Iraq to conduct war in that country. In comparison, there was a $500 million pledge made recently by the government of Japan.''
 * In my opinion it is not a severe problem but I think it would be better if someone could name some of these critics. -- Carlosar 12:38, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Part of the money spent in Iraq is with human assistance. Are you sure that all the $177 million is spent only with war? -- Carlosar 12:38, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)


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Wikinews talk:How to edit a page

This page seems fairly redundant - there are a number of pages like this now. Someone needs to sort out which ones to keep and prune the others, possibly needs some merging. Quite a bit of work I think. Simeon 13:11, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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Abbas wins election, offers Israel 'hand of peace'

January 10, 2005

After winning the election of January 9, 2005 by a large margin, new Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas offered peace to Israel. Israel reportedly welcomed the result and asked Mr Abbas to "clamp down" on Palestinian militants.

Abbas said he wants to meet Israel's Prime Minister Ariel Sharon soon. US President George W. Bush has indicated he will invite Abbas to the United States for talks, something he never did with Abbas's predecessor, the late Yasser Arafat.

The EU monitoring team present during the elections commented on the uniqueness of democratic elections in territory under military occupation. Leaders, including the U.S. president and European Commission president, have praised the election process.

Reports indicate some problems surfaced during the voting.

According to observers, some Palestinians not on the register were allowed to vote while others who believed they were eligible were turned away. Observers also noted registered names were missing from the Jerusalem roll, leading to voters being turned away. Polling was prolonged for two hours due to an influx of late voters.

Preliminary voting results:

Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen): 62.3%

Mustafa Barghouti:        19.8%


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UK New Year's Day murder suspect jumps from seventh floor window

January 10, 2005

The primary suspect in the murder of student Sarah Gleeson apparently set himself on fire, then threw himself from a seventh floor window of the Corus Hotel early on Saturday morning, January 8.

Police indicated they were seeking to question the suspect, David Atkinson, prior to his death. Atkinson was a Lance-Corporal in the British Army. He had been present in Cambridge on New Year's Eve, but failed to report for duty to his barracks in Waterbeach on January 4.

Sarah Gleeson disappeared in Cambridge on New Year's Eve, and her body was discovered on January 8, shortly after Atkinson's apparent suicide. Investigators are working to determine more details about the circumstances and cause of both deaths.

Atkinson had been charged with kidnap and assault in a separate case involving a Polish woman, although the Ministry of Defence stated that he had been cleared of those charges in 1998.


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User talk:80.230.54.198

Welcome
80.230.54.198, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! -- IlyaHaykinson 21:40, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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User talk:VikOlliver

Welcome
VikOlliver, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! -- IlyaHaykinson 21:40, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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Great article!
But there is an issue about Ted Turner and CNN - he is no longer associated with CNN. You will want to change the article's title, and you can do that with the "move" tab. - Amgine 22:39, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Images from Wikipedia
Wikinews cannot directly add an image hosted on Wikipedia. First, double check the image is not on Commons - you can check by using the image just by itself:. If that doesn't work, you'll need to copy the file over to http://commons.wikimedia.org. Save it to your hard drive, then upload it there (you'll need to create an account and log in there. Once it is on commons you can use it on Wikinews.

 * Yes, it's a real pain... but that's why Commons was created; to take the load off of Wikipedia, and make the images available generally to all the wikimedia projects. The plan, as I understand it, is to shift exclusively to the commons for images and media files, and to automate uploads from other projects into commons. (This is connected to the "one login" plan, so you won't need an account on each project.) - Amgine 07:16, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Drones article
Thank you! I have gotten distracted by another issue... - Amgine

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User talk:82.82.120.33

Welcome
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User talk:213.67.86.204

Welcome
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User talk:Anth~enwikinews

Welcome
Anth, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Anth. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Anth~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:11, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:28, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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User talk:132.206.150.168

Welcome
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User:Anth~enwikinews

An interesting project to say the least.

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User talk:202.49.141.2

Welcome
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User talk:80.42.142.181

Welcome
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MST will not leave invaded area in Minas Gerais

The members of the Brazilian Landless Workers Movement (Movimento Sem Terra, or MST) have decided they will not leave their camp, called Carlos Lamarca, an invaded area of Casa Grande farm. The farm is located at Esmeralda City, a metropolitan area of Belo Horizonte, in the Brazilian state of Minas Gerais. Since the judge Dr. Cláudio José Coelho's deadline time giving to them abandoning the area expired yesterday, the arrival of the police force could occur at any time.

Helio do Carmo, a member of MST said, "At this moment, the important thing is staying at the camp and resist." Help is being provided by other MST camps in the region.

Belo Horizonte, a city of 2 million inhabitants, is the capital of Minas Gerais, a state in southeastern Brazil.


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Radiobras Brazilian news agency moved to Free Software

January 10, 2005

The Brazilian government news agency Radiobrás (ABr) website has completed a move to free software. As of January 9th, the agency's website is in compliance with the Brazilian government's program to use free software throughout the public sector.

Free software is software which, once obtained, can be used, copied, studied, modified and redistributed. It is often made available online without charge or offline for the cost of distribution; free software is not limited to being given away, but can be "free as in free speech" and sold for profit. Some of the most well-known examples of free software are the Linux operating system, the Mozilla web browser and the OpenOffice office suite.

About 25 people worked on this change. The change has taken about a year and a half, since the first changes of some workstations and servers of Radiobrás.

The switch to free software is being implemented by the National Institute of Technology of Information (ITI), inspired by similar decisions made in another countries. A reduction in service costs is expected.


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Torture and mass arrests of Christians in Vietnam

January 9, 2005 A 25-page briefing paper released by the Human Rights Watch reports torture, mass arrests and increasing persecution of Montagnard Christians in Vietnam's Central Highlands. According to Human Rights Watch there is more extensive use of torture against activists, individuals and religious leaders who have been expelled or returned from Cambodia.

The practice of self-criticism sessions, where Montagnard villagers are forced by officials to renounce Christianity and every political or religious activities in public is common. Human Rights Watch received complaints about these practices at provincies of Dak Lak, Kon Tum, Dak Nong and Gia Lai during 2004.

According to the report, in December, the month of Christmas, police force were engaged in rounding up and arresting dozens of Montagnard Christians and detaining them at district and provincial police stations and prisons throughout the region. The police arrested 129 people between December 12 and 24 in Gia Lai province, one of five provinces in the Central Highlands.

On April 10, 2004, a 25-year-old man was arrested by the police of Dak Nong province. During the interrogation the police officers extracted one of his toe nails, beat him with a rubber baton, broke his front teeth by beating him repeatedly and they intimidated him with a AK-47 rifle. The police officers threatened him by putting a pile of electrical wire in his front but they didn't shock him. Regularly they soak people in water and shock them until they get unconscious.

A man who described himself as a activist with the Dega church movement described his arrest and torture by police in Dark Doa district in March 2003:''I was on my way to another village with my little boy to attend a wedding when they arrested me. They took me to the district police station, where they blindfolded me. They sat me in a chair and forced me to hold my hands up in the air for almost seven hours. Policemen on either side of me twisted pens between my fingers and beat my feet with a wooden stick. At the same time they jabbed me in the ribs with their hands. The worst part was that they forced my three-year-old son to sit on my lap the entire time, even though he was crying uncontrollably.''

Dak Nong, a church elder from Cu Jut district said authorities have recorded members of his village church committee delivering bibles to officials. Nong said that the video was used later in television in a false report: ''when it was shown on television the announcer said we were voluntarily giving up the bibles. In fact, we were forced.''


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Guatemala nominates Rigoberta Menchú for OAS Secretary General

January 10, 2005 Guatemala has nominated a Nobel Peace Prize winner, indigenous rights worker Rigoberta Menchú, 46, to become the next Secretary General of the Organization of American States (OAS).

The post became available after the previous Secretary General, Miguel Ángel Rodriguez, served for only 24 days of his term of office, before returning home to Costa Rica to face corruption charges.

Luigi R. Einaudi, the former Assistant Secretary General, is serving as Acting Secretary General until the OAS decides who will serve for the remainder of the current term of office.

Before Menchú was nominated, the Central American states had decided that the candidate should be from Central America. But the Rodriguez scandal has made it difficult for the Central American states to find another candidate they could all endorse.

Chile and Mexico have proposed their own candidate for the job.

President Oscar Berger of Guatemala agrees that Menchú should be the Central American candidate. Menchú has said that if the Central American nations are in agreement, she will happily stand as their candidate.

An indigenous Guatemalan, Menchú won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1992, and was also prominent in her opposition to the previous FRG government which Berger defeated.

Menchú works for the current government as Good Will Ambassador for the 1996 peace accord.


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Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance/Archive

Archives for the Assistance section of the Water Cooler.

The current archive is Archive 12.

 * Archive 1
 * Topics covered: Database Corruption?

 * Archive 2
 * Topics covered: SqueakFox, Hey Admins, this one is for you, News getting put on main page..., Creating Own Editorial and Research Sections on User Page, Pictures, Graphics, and Table of Contents, Adding article to latest news

 * Archive 3
 * Topics covered: Newsletter

 * Archive 4
 * Topics covered: What is WikiNews

 * Archive 5
 * Topics covered: Offer to help, Mark-up toolbox, Image won't show, French or German/English translater needed, Categories for articles, Readers

 * Archive 6
 * Topics covered: Wikinews RSS, Developing Stories Automatic list, I would like to be a columnist for wikinews, confused., "Original" Inside info from Aruban reporter(Holloway story), Category, Political crisis in Brazil, Interview with Hiroshi Ishiguro

 * Archive 7
 * Topics covered: What is the permalink link in the toolbox for?, Login problems

 * Archive 8
 * Topics covered: Question on policy summary availability, Article preparation in advance, Iowa State Legislature testing, south Thailand troubles

 * Archive 9
 * Topics covered: Interviewing the illustrious "Jimbo" Wales, Jimbo Interview: Technical, Articles on Swaziland, please take a look, Question about merging, Missing Link, AP copyright footer, Can I add an image to my signature?, Where do I post a copy of copyright permission?, Advice requested, How to use source template, Copyright on Images, Review, You have new messages, Slight vertical whitespace difference, Absurd stories in development, World cup stories, Dedicating a week to writing news, Protected Special: edit request, Hoax??, Newsworthy?: MS ends XP SP1 support, Portal:Prepared stories VS. Wikinews:Story preparation, help with copyright stuff, Assistance with another copyright enquiry, Some edits and some new pages..., Man confesses to 1996 murder of JonBenet Ramsey, Total Newbie Questions, Now I am TOTALLY Confused, Adding categories to archived articles, cats running wild on wikinews, copyright/fair use question., For anyone looking for a non-controversial contribution (or not as the case may be), What exactly is original?, Images question, Newbie article, Spoken articles - offer and request, Pope comment reactions, Hi I need help, question, Admin Alert Question, help with image, Straw urges "drop the veil" needs tidying up please, Lost article?, Questions for Poll/ survey, Cross-wiki question., Page for coordination, Could someone please have a look at this., Spero copies without credit, TOC right, Interview Alert, Interviews as newstories?, Kofi Annan: Iraq situation much worse than civil war, Prime MInister Blair flies to Washington

 * Archive 10
 * Topics covered: Interviews in the works, User Pages guidelines, Need a page moved, Need Help With Covering Bias in the Boston Globe, copyright status of Image:Fidel12-6.jpg Image:Fidel12-1.jpg, Double redirects, Need WikiNews Contact for Wikimedia Foundation (most likely hoax), article cooperation and images (Guatemala sinkhole, Prince Harry), replacing images, Sports coverage, Youth Parliament help, spam on a protected article, article request, Wikicast News Coverage, Participatory Journalism Questions, more article help, Hebrew WikiNews - Getting started?. ATTN: doldrums/other mods, Coordination on US elections, Anyone interested in press releases for events?, Company markets IED Jammer direct to troops, Dealing with difficult interview subjects, HELP!!!!, Level of copyright infringement?, Template talk:Featured picture, G8 question from Sean Heron, Venezuelan protests continue over closure of RCTV, Photos, Renaming, Choke (film), Iraq US Troop withdrawal, Digg on Wikinews Reports blog

 * Archive 11
 * Topics covered: KDE 4.0 release event, Quiz of 2007, help requested, Spelling correction to Caption: Anmensty=>Amnesty, This day in history - 2007?, Tax rebate, gaza, Partial solar eclipse, Prepared story, No English news coverage until yet but WN will delete the article, TIBE problem.... DAMN and SERIOUS, castles of scotland, I received an email that says I have tested the Wikinews,  Domas Mituzas,  Image Help, about customer care, Is this worthy of an article?, Help with translation needed, bussiness report 2007, Please check story, How old is "too old"?, Help publish while still newsworthy, Fennovoima, HI! NEW ENERGY DAY IS JULY 10TH!, Need Critique, Review requested for interview, Hillview Manor Saga, page started, now gone!?, Letter of assignment or approval, Seeking a Wikinewsie mentor, New article, publication assistance needed, Ready for publication, 4000 year old gold artifact discovered in Peru, Re-using a dormant account?, Using the news paper here for stories, Israel undergoes major emergency drill, accreditation of photographers, how to fix broken source template, filtering news items, Question Requests for 2008 Taipei 101 Run Up, Request correction, Charley wilson's war, 2008 COMPUTEX & WiMAX Expo, the FINAL WARNING....., Story Update Request, Moulton, Photo Help

 * Archive 12
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Database Corruption?
Is anyone else seeing Francisco Melendez as the last editor in this page history?

I tried two small edits (removing a space) and he still appears as the most recent editor, leading one to the mistaken impression that he is removing other folks comments, yet editing the document or purging and refreshing the page shows that is not the case.

I am starting to save the contents of all the articles I work on in separate text files locally on my machine, because if the database is getting corrupted, we could lose all of our content if the backups are corrupted as well.

Please let me know if you see this problem cropping up in this case or elsewhere.

— DV 01:34, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * I am seeing it too. I am not sure what's going on — you might want to file a bug at http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org -- IlyaHaykinson 01:58, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)