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Jackson County, Oregon rejects tax to reopen libraries

May 16, 2007 Jackson County, Oregon in the United States voted to reject measure 15-75, which would have provided funding to reopen county libraries, closed since April 6. The new levy, at US$0.66 per US$1000 of assessed property value, would have provided funding to open the 15 libraries left unfunded after the U.S. Congress did not renew the Secure Rural Schools and Self-Determination Act. A similar levy was defeated in November, 2006.

County Commissioners Jack Walker and Dave Gilmour blamed the defeat not on a lack of support for libraries, but a reticence to pay additional taxes. Gilmour noted an oncoming recession and called libraries "just one more casualty of the Iraq War," while Walker said voters reacted against tax-and-spend measures.


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Talk:Martin Luther King Jr.'s oldest daughter Yolanda King dies at age 51

I'm not a native English speaker, but shouldn't that be 'eldest' instead of 'oldest'? Naphra 00:09, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Me neither, but my spelling checker accepts both.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 10:20, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Complaints about Bible surge after HK student paper classified as indecent

Title misses point of article
Wouldn't "Students counter indecency charges by complaining about Bible" be more accurate? Or something along those lines. --SVTCobra 00:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

 * I changed it mainly because it was so bad. But if you read the article as written, you'll see that there is no mention of students being responsible for the complaints. They probably are, but we can't assume so. I think the title is fine, as is. It doesn't miss the point at all. It is just a fact. Jcart1534 00:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

 * I am not complaining about your change. The previous title was even worse (bad grammar). But the whole thing is a protest of the indecency charges against the student newspaper. For some reason our article fails to mention this: (I quote from Reuters) "The complaints follow the launch of an anonymous Web site -- www.truthbible.net -- which said the holy book "made one tremble" given its sexual and violent content, including rape and incest." The website and the complaints are designed to draw attention to the hypocrisy of the charges against CUHK Student Journal. The title of this wikinews article is misleading because it suggests that the outrage is genuinely about the bible. --SVTCobra 00:46, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

 * I know exactly what you are saying SVT, and I do agree with you that the thrust of the article alludes to that connection. So then the title should be something like "Recent complaints of indecency against the Bible in Hong Kong are likely submitted in protest of a ruling that a student newspaper article on sex was indecent", or longer if possible? :) Anyway, have a go at it if you want. I am not sure what to do with it. Cheers, Jcart1534 01:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the title is just fine as it is now. DragonFire1024 02:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I am going to try nonetheless. I won't feel bad if you immediately revert. --SVTCobra 02:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think this works, but like I said, feel free to do better. (or revert) --SVTCobra 03:00, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, perfect! Jcart1534 03:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Number of complaints
With each edit the number of complaints seems to go up. I have no idea what the Chinese language sources say, but the Reuters article says this: A spokesperson for Hong Kong's Television and Entertainment Licensing authority (TELA) said it had received 838 complaints about the Bible by noon Wednesday. Can anyone document a number above 838? --SVTCobra 02:37, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Found and added an AP source that quotes TELA (on Thursday) as having received 1766 complaints against the Bible. Jcart1534 03:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That's perfect! --SVTCobra 03:18, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


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This is absolutely disgusting. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  00:20, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
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Comments:Aboriginal Sovereignty Day Declared

incorrect black gst link
Black GSTlinks to an unrelated site. The wikipedia link for Black GST should be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_GST and external links include: http://blackgst.revolt.org/ or http://www.kooriweb.org/gst/stolenwealth.html but the link from http://www.kooriweb.org/gst/ goes back to the incorrect .com site Mickiewiki 01:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I see what you saying. In fact, there shouldn't be an in-line link at all. Since article is protected I will go through the proper channels to fix, although this will be limited to removing the link, not adding your suggestions. Thanks for noticing.--SVTCobra 01:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


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Comments:Prince Harry prohibited from going to Iraq

oH MY:
Look, the point of war is shooting the enemy, right? Is that what is going on there? I doubt the USA or Britain or anyone else except Iraqis has any relevance to what is going on there now. -Edbrown05 01:41, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not a military operation any more, it's a diplomatic one that is not being addressed. -Edbrown05 01:53, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

 * I hope this is just dis-information and that they send Harry to Iraq anyway. The kid wants to go, so let him, I say. --SVTCobra 01:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

 * What BS...He is obligated to serve his coutry. He AGREEED to go to Iraq...HE WANTS to go to Iraq...This is just a publicity stunt and Harry is not above the law and not about their constitution. DragonFire1024 02:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


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NHL: Buffalo Sabres beat Ottawa Senators 3 to 2

May 17, 2007

The Buffalo Sabres have beat the Ottawa Senators in a score of 3 to 2 in game four of the Stanley Cup playoffs.

Just 9 seconds into the first period, Derek Roy scored the first goal to give Buffalo the lead of 1 to 0, making Sabres-franchise history as the fastest goal to start a playoff game.

In the second period, Maxim Afinogenov and Chris Drury of the Sabres both scored goals to bring the Sabres lead 3 to 0.

Also in the second period, Dean McAmmond and Peter Schaefer of the Senators scored two goals to bring the Senators down by one at 3 to 2.

No goals were scored in the third period, with the Sabres winning the game. Ryan Miller, the goalie for the Sabres stopped 31 of the 33 Senators shots on goals.

"When things weren't going our way at the end of the second period, we could've packed it in there. You know it's too tough. But we battled through some tough situations," said Miller to reporters after the game.

"They were trying their hardest to give it to us, but their goalie decided that he didn't want to let anything by him," said defense man Joe Corvo of the Senators.

The Sabres are hoping that this begins the comeback after their 3-0 deficit, a feat only achieved by three North American sports teams, the 1942 Toronto Maple Leafs, the 1975 New York Islanders, and the 2004 Boston Red Sox.

Game 5 of the playoffs will be held at HSBC Arena in Buffalo on Saturday, returning Home Ice advantage to the Sabres.


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Insurgents in Iraq kill 32 with chemical bomb

May 17, 2007 Insurgents in Iraq have used a chemical car bomb to kill at least 32 people and injuring at least 50 in the Diyala Province, in the village of Abu Saydah on Tuesday. Reports say that the vehicle used in the attack was parked at a market near two tea stalls.

"A small van with gas canisters exploded in a crowded market, there were many people dead at the scene," said Iraqi police officer, Captain Sadiq Mohammed.

According to police, the bomb was described as being filled with chlorine gas and injuries reported at the local hospital include burns from a "poisonous gas," but the United States military in Iraq denies those reports. "Our folks on the scene... who are investigating this do not have any of those indications," said a spokesman for the U.S. military in Iraq, Lt-Col Michael Donnelly.

One of the injured, Kadim Hussein, who was taken to the Imam Ali hospital in Sadr City for treatment, complained of eye irritation. "My eyes became puffy due the chlorine gas that was packed in the car bomb...also I had many pieces of shrapnel in my chest and right shoulder," he said.

Hospitals in Muqdadiyah and Sadr City received most of the victims of the bomb blast. Doctors and authorities at the Imam Ali hospital reported that 11 of the patients they treated were presented with symptoms typical of chlorine poisoning and that many of the victims had trouble breathing.

Chlorine can burn the skin almost instantly and can kill a person if they inhale too much of the fumes. Chlorine is usually used domestically as a disinfectant as well as a bleach.

In April, at least 35 were killed when insurgents detonated a chlorine bomb in the city of Ramadi.

This comes just 6 days after Army Maj. Gen. Benjamin R. Mixon, commander of the 25th Infantry Division based in Iraq's Diyala province asked for more troops to help with insurgents.


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Whales that swam into Sacramento River are injured

May 17, 2007

Marine biologists say that the two lost, mother and male calf Humpback Whales that swam into the Sacramento River in Sacramento, California, have sustained injuries from a boat propeller blade and need medical attention if they do not return to their homes in the Pacific Ocean.

The injuries were first spotted when pictures were taken of the whales by biologists at the Marine Mammal Center in Sausalito, California. They then enlarged all the photographs using a computer and determined the extent of the injuries.

"The injury on the female is about 2 feet long, 6 inches deep, and has sharp edges typical of a propeller wound. We don't think it's life-threatening. The calf has a wound that looks a little bit more severe than the female," said Director of Veterinary Science at the Mammal Center, Frances Gulland who added that the calf was a bit more difficult to assess because the injuries are located on his back side which remains under water.

Biologists will attempt to lure the whales back into the ocean using sounds recorded from other Humpback Whales. A boat will be used to send the sounds underwater during low tide. No boats or ships are allowed in the river during the operation.

The two whales are reported to have traveled from the waters off Baja California, Mexico.


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It's OttAwa, not ottowa... >:P 207.6.207.173 04:25, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Opps :) Fixed. :) DragonFire1024 05:30, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks ^-^ 207.6.207.173 21:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Game/OR
I also watched the game On TV. So I am not sure if that would count at OR or not, hence some small unsourced information. DragonFire1024 05:34, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


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Recently discovered planet may contain 'hot ice'

May 17, 2007 A team of European and American astronomers say that a recently discovered extrasolar planet, located not far from Earth, contains oceans and rivers of hot solid water.

The team discovered the planet, Gliese 436 b, which is roughly the size of Neptune, using the Geneva Observatory and it is roughly 33 light-years away from Earth.

"The water is frozen by the pressure but it's hot. It's a bit strange -- we are used to water changing conditions because of temperature, but in fact water can also be solidified by pressure. It's not a very welcoming planet," said one of the astronomers who discovered the planet, Frederic Pont.

Scientists say that there is not likely to be any life on the planet, but that if there is such a large amount of water on it, then it is likely that other planets will also have water. It orbits closely around the Red M-dwarf star Gliese 436 which is significantly smaller and cooler than the Sun. The planet's surface temperature is believed to be near 540 degrees Fahrenheit (250 degrees Celsius). It circles Gliese 436 every 2.6 days at a small fraction of the distance between the Sun and Earth, or 4.1 million kilometers (2.6 million miles).

"It shows there are many ocean planets. From the size and the mass we get the density," added Pont who wrote in a report about the planet saying "the mass and radius that we measure for GJ 436b indicate that it is mainly composed of water ice. It is an 'ice giant' planet like Uranus and Neptune rather than a small-mass gas giant or a very heavy 'super-Earth."

American astronomers first discovered GJ 436b back in 2004, but no clear indication was found on what it might contain on its surface.

The same team of astronomers were made famous when they discovered the first "earth-like planet" Gliese 581 c in April.


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Remains of the Man: The note on the leg of the suicide bomber.
According to some news reports there was a message on the remains of the suicide bomber. The message said "this will be the fate of all US collaborators" - the irony - I imagine - was lost on the dead man himself.

From my sources it seems there was no such "note" on the remaining leg of the suicide bomber. It is unclear if a suicide bomber can predict which part of his body will remain intact and then use that as a propaganda billboard.

I have to note here that the statement about the note has been attributed to the Provincial Minister for Law - which is extremely puzzling, since this is a Police matter not a legal one. The IG of Police, Mr Virk - who might know more - has been quite reticent on the subject.--RHakeem 04:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


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old news
the discovery is old news - the planet was first observed in 2004. what is new is the hot ice finding, perhaps also the measurement of the transit and hence, orbital period, mass...etc. pls fix this asap. its a lead article. –Doldrums(talk) 07:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


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Sarkozy appoints François Fillon as Prime Minister of France

May 17, 2007

The new President of France, Nicolas Sarkozy has appointed François Fillon to head the new French government. Fillon's predecessor Dominique de Villepin stepped down yesterday, and formally handed over the post during a ceremony today.

The nomination did not come as a surprise after the British newspaper the  had reported on May 8 that Sarkozy had introduced Fillon to Tony Blair in a telephone conversation.

François Fillon (53) has been the political advisor of Sarkozy in the for the past 2 years, and he was Sarko's campaign leader during the recent presidential elections. Fillon has experience in negotiating with the trade unions, having undertaken controversial reforms of the and the pension system. Sarkozy in his inauguration speech on Wednesday reiterated his plans to reform the French labour and social system, and Fillon will have to oversee these reforms as the new Prime Minister. Sarkozy said he wants to make the economy more flexible and lessen social tensions.

 reported that Fillon is an Anglophile; his wife Penelope Clarke, with whom he has 5 children, was born in Wales. Ideologically, Fillon is being described as a moderate left-leaning member of the conservative UMP party.

Fillon had his first experience as a minister in 1993 when he became Minister for the Higher education and Research under PM. He later became Minister for the Post office, Telecommunications and Space, then Minister for the social Affairs, Work and Solidarity, and finally Minister for national Education, the Higher education and Research. At the university, he studied public law and political sciences.

Sarkozy might announce his cabinet of 15 ministers as early as Friday, half of which are going to be women, he said. Fillon will lead the UMP in the parliamentary elections next month. A poll on Wednesday predicted a 1.5% increase in votes for the UMP, up to 40%, compared to 28% status-quo for the allied socialists.

Reports say that Sarkozy has offered the foreign minister post to, co-founder of , who is seen as being on the left in French politics.


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Israel responds to Hamas rockets with air strike on Gaza, killing four

May 17, 2007

Israel launched another air strike into Gaza City at about 2:15 p.m. local time today, leaving four dead and at least 40 wounded.

Israeli Air Force (IAF) F-16 aircraft targeted two Hamas installations and cars with Hamas militants. A Hamas building, which the organisation said was an administrative office of its bodyguard unit, was destroyed. A top Hamas commander riding in one of the cars was killed.

The air strike follows warnings from Israel that it will respond to repeated rocket attacks coming from Palestinian areas. Miri Eisin, spokeswoman for the Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, said: "We have had enough. Israel will take all defensive measures to protect our citizens from these Hamas rockets." Hamas military spokesman Abu Obaida has threatened to retaliate against Israeli settlers and suggested using suicide bombing.

Israeli armoured units moved into northern Gaza, taking up preparatory positions, an unidentified army spokeswoman told Bloomberg.

The strike comes in the middle of heavy fighting between forces loyal to Fatah and to Hamas, part of the ongoing Palestinian factional violence.

This was the third Israeli strike in two days.


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Historic crossing of Korean border

May 17, 2007 For the first time in 56 years, two passenger trains crossed the border between North Korea and South Korea. Before today, no trains made the trip between the north and the south since the Korean War divided the once-unified Korea.

Riding on rails built by South Korea several years ago, the train traveled from Munsan in the south to Kaesong in the north. The train was granted access to the demilitarized zone since 1951, the heavily guarded border between North and South Korea. Meanwhile, from the north a train traveled from Kumgang to Jejin. Each train carried 150 specially invited passengers.

"Today the heart of the Korean peninsula will start beating again," South Korean Unification Minister Lee Jae-joung said.

Although largely symbolic, the rail connection is seen as an important step in thawing relations. To date, North Korea has approved only this one trial run of the trains.

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Marble slab falls off skyscraper in Toronto

May 17, 2007 On Wednesday, it was raining rocks in Toronto. A 115 Kilogram marble panel fell 51 stories from the side of First Canadian Place, 100 King Street West, which is the heart of Toronto's Business district. The panel was one of many that were identified as a risk during an inspection.

The rock fell onto a third story roof, where its fall was broken.

There were no reports of injuries, but the event snarled traffic in Toronto, as many major roads were closed. It also backed up street car traffic along King Street. King St. W. from York St. E. to Bay St. is expected to be closed for several days. Traffic continues normally now along all other previously closed streets.

As investigations continue, an expert has commented that there is no need for alarm. David Bowick, a professor of architecture at the University of Toronto, says such incidents are rare, given the improvements to architectural technology over the years. Several experts, Bowick included, have commented that the incident was probably caused by a major storm which occurred Tuesday night.

Bowick added that natural materials like marble have inherent flaws which are susceptible to such destruction.

According to the official website, First Canadian Place, constructed in 1975, is 2.8 million square ft., has 72 stories, and is still today Canada's tallest office building (tallest skyscraper) measuring 298 metres in height. It has 3-levels of over 120 offices, banks, restaurants, and stores.

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my notes as I was riding to street car home I was delayed and asked what happened the street car driver said "marble falling from the towers down town"

I walked downtown and noted that First Canadian place was being blocked off, and I could see People on the side of the building inspecting it, and that the road was closed off.

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there's, can be copied over to commons and used. –Doldrums(talk) 18:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That image is already on commons, under the same name: commons:Image:First Canadian Place.JPG —Zachary talk 18:27, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

injuries?
no human injury caused by this, i assume? should be noted in the article

Deletion
I deleted a paragraph which was irrelevant, discussing the heights of tall buildings in Canada and the world. Interested viewers would naturally follow the provided link to Wikipedia on the building in question.
 * I have re-inserted this para as the article is already quite short and background info doesnt really hurt.--Mark Talk 19:27, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I redeleted the irrelevant passage while somewhat satisfying concerns about background info and after lengthening it relevantly with up-to-date information. -Brian

How many storeys? How tall is the building?
Numbers differ from one news article to another, and from this one to the Wikipedia article. All quite absurd. I don't know what is true. Perhaps noteworthy.

- Brian

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Michael Nutter wins Philadelphia, USA mayoral primary

May 16, 2007

Michael Nutter won the Philadelphia Democratic mayoral primary making him the presumptive mayor. He will face Republican candidate Al Taubenberger in the general election in the fall.

Background
Nutter positioned himself as a reformer. Prior to the election he was endorsed by all the major newspapers in the city. On April 27, 2007, The Philadelphia Inquirer announced that it would endorse Nutter for the Democratic primary. Nutter was also endorsed by the Philadelphia Daily News, Philadelphia magazine, The Northeast Times, Philadelphia City Paper, Philadelphia Weekly, Philly for Change (a local affiliate of Democracy for America), The Daily Pennsylvanian, and Clean Water Action.

Nutter won the May 15 Democratic primary election with 37% of the vote in a five-man field. He defeated his nearest rival, Tom Knox, by a comfortable margin. The other candidates, Bob Brady, Chaka Fattah and Dwight Evans, trailed the top two. Nutter drew strength from wards throughout the city. His strongest wards were the liberal wards of Center City and the Northwest, where Nutter soundly defeated all of his opponents.

Primary Results
100% precincts reported


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Wikinews Shorts: May 17, 2007

PlayStation Portable to sell products online
have announced that a (PSP) store is in the works, it will be very similar to the  (PS3) store that is already online.

It will allow the purchasing and downloading of games directly through to PSPs. This will allow the downloading and playing of PSPs as well as (PS1) games, which can already be downloaded from the PS3 Store and transferred to PSPs using official firmware.

analyst Colin Sebastian suggested that Sony is changing their views on the PSP and a new one could be in the works.

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Canadian plane en route to Wilmington, Delaware, USA crashes; kills 3 people
At 9:30 a.m. EDT this morning, a small Canadian plane, identified as a, crashed near in , , 50 kilometres southwest of. The two passengers and the pilot onboard were killed but their identities are still not known. The aircraft was destroyed.

The plane was from,  to  in , , USA.

The pilot was concerned about the left engine breaking and, instead, planned to land in Dunkirk, New York but crashed in the woods, less than a kilometre away from the airport.

The and the  are currently investigating. There is no word if will be entering into the investigation to help identify the bodies.

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Poll: Finns favor gender-equality in pay
According to a poll commissioned by Finland newspaper  and conducted by statistical research service, nearly 80% of Finns are in favor of pay raises that will promote gender equality.

A majority of 78% favored higher pay raises for public sector professions like nursing, that are predominantely female. The survey also found that densely populated areas, tend to be more in favor of gender equality.

The current, lead by Prime Minister , has a female majority of 12 women and 8 men.

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NPD Group releases game sales for April
dominated sales for the month of April with its portable  and its gaming console the  at the top of the charts. 's and  came in third and fourth respectively. 's continued to put up satisfactory sales coming in fifth. Sony's continues to lack sales-wise, coming in behind the Nintendo's  for the third month in a row.

Approximately 360,000 units of the Wii were sold at USD$250. Nintendo sold more than 1.7 million games.

The Xbox 360 sold approximately 174,000 units.

The PlayStation 3 seen some low sales in April selling only 82,000 units, 37% lower from March.

Full NPD Sales:
 * Nintendo DS - 471,000
 * Wii - 360,000
 * PlayStation 2 - 194,000
 * PlayStation Portable - 183,000
 * Xbox 360 - 174,000
 * Game Boy Advance - 84,000
 * PlayStation 3 - 82,000
 * - 13,000

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MLB: Ninth-inning rally lifts Mets over Cubs

May 17, 2007

The hosted the  at  in, New York, and was behind by five runs going into the ninth inning, but a rally brought them ahead at the end.

gave up six hits, but only allowed one run in his seven inning appearance, an RBI single by in the fifth inning. Mets starter gave up all five of the Cubs' runs: a sacrifice fly RBI in the fourth, and two two-run home runs in the sixth inning. hit his second home run of the season with a two-run fly ball over the left field fence, scoring Endy Chávez. Two batters later, picked up his tenth home run of the season with a two run line drive over the same fence, scoring Alfonso Soriano.

got stuck in a jam in the bottom of the ninth, filling the bases and giving up two runs. Reliever came in to try and end the game, but gave up two hits, including the two-run single by  that gave the Mets not only their first lead of the game, but the win.

in a three-game "subway series" starting Friday. Meanwhile, the Cubs are preparing for their own inter-city, inter-league game at against the.

Box score
W: Burgos (1-0) L: Dempster (1-2) BS: Eyre (0/3)


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Talk:Talks about Wolfowitz resignation begin

Resign
Where in your sources does it say he will resign soon? All I see is that there is a discussion and that there is talk, but nothing confirmed. I tagged as misleading as rthe artilce reads that this is all 100% going to happen. DragonFire1024 20:34, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Read the first line in the CNN article. Plus, I changed the title. Momodamonkey 20:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * This is something not confirmed by even Bush who only says a meeting is taking place. He does not say Wolf. will resign. DragonFire1024 20:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Wolfowitz and the Bush administration were seeking a face-saving deal with the board that would allow him to resign under his own terms and escape some blame for the furor involving his girlfriend's compensation- From Fox News. Therefore, talks about Wolfowitz Resignation do begin. End of story. - Momodamonkey 20:57, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Says who? All that you just said, especially about his "girlfriend" seems more POV and unfactual...nothing anywhere about what you claim above and in the article. No where does it say he is going to resign and no where does it say thats the case. Read Bush's comments. Even he never said it. DragonFire1024 21:01, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I say talks about resignatnion begin. I never say it's a given. Get your facts straight. About Riza being his girlfriend, from Wikipedia "Riza had already been romantically linked to Wolfowitz, when he was the Deputy Secretary of Defense under Donald Rumsfeld in the Bush Administration." Momodamonkey 21:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And where does WP get that information? DragonFire1024 21:09, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And who says talk about resignation begin? No one has said anything to that nature except media speculation. DragonFire1024 21:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

At this point you are just looking for an arguement. "It's a game that is still going on. What I understand from people close to the board is that they really want to make a decision on this case because it cannot continue like it is. It's really bad for the bank," said Kees-Jaap Ouwekerk, spokesman for Dutch Overseas Development Minister Bert Koenders. And WP gets the info from the Daily Mail. A quote from Wolfowitz' people However, Wolfowitz's only comment on the complaints has been a terse statement issued through a Pentagon spokesman. "If a personal relationship presents a potential conflict of interest, I will comply with bank policies to resolve the issue." Link here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=342048&in_page_id=1770. Need anything else? - Momodamonkey 21:17, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes again...where does the word resign get said anywhere in there or those sources you listed...other than speculation from various media outlets...no where. Not a single time. DragonFire1024 21:24, 17 May 2007 (UTC)`

Just skimming Fox I see the word resign twice. Look I don't care what authority you have, you lost this arguement my news story is publishable. Deal with it. Momodamonkey 21:26, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually no its not. And I have to go to work. So I cannot sit here and listen to your hostility. DragonFire1024 21:43, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

My hostility? I was trying to publish an article when you decided that you didn't like facts. You did the same in the article U.S. airstrike targeting Ayman al-Zawahiri leaves 18 dead in Pakistani village. I beleive that for some reason you don't want the Republicans to look bad. Because in the articles you highly dispute (which in fact are good articles) they are all bad for Republicans. News is news. Go work for Fox if you don't want to accept fact. Momodamonkey 21:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup
The reason this has been disputed and tagged is because it too closely follows sources. The Repubugnicans on the Internet are over at http://www.worldnetdaily.com with Chuck Norris. Oh, and I think they're waiting for the Rapture. ;-) --Brian McNeil / talk 22:19, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


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Cyber attacks in Estonia threaten national security

May 17, 2007

Recent cyber attacks in Estonia that have paralyzed the high tech country's Web sites are a threat to national security, according to the country's Minister of Defense. This has concerned NATO, seeing that Estonia is a member state of the organization. The attacks have subsided this week.

The Defense Minister Jaak Aaviksoo also mentioned that Russia may have been behind the attacks. He stated that the IP numbers in the initial attack belong to Russian government offices, but says that it's insufficient evidence that the government is behind it. The Kremlin is dismissing the accusations, saying that its caused by hackers producing fake Kremlin IP addresses.

The cyber attacks came after Estonia removed a Soviet-era statue of a Bronze Soldier in Tallinn, which angered many Russians. Riots have left 160 injured, and 1 dead.

Both NATO and the European Union views this as an attack on one of their member states. Three hundred Estonian IT specialist worked day and night to fix the problem.

The Estonian government plans to analyze server logs and data to find out who is behind the attacks.


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Canadian TV to go all-digital in 2011

May 17, 2007

The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) announced that it is setting August 31, 2011 as the deadline for over-the-air (OTA) television transmissions to go digital. In Broadcasting Public Notice CRTC 2007-53, the commission outlines that OTA broadcasts should be digital in all markets, with possible exceptions in northern and remote communities where analog transmissions will not cause interference.

This follows the United States' Federal Communications Commission (FCC) decision to go all digital in February 17, 2009. Canada had been taking a wait and see approach, and the federal regulator sees a need for more Canadian content in High-definition television (HDTV). The decision to go completely digital should be a catalyst for more Canadian content. The commission expects broadcasters should be able to re-equip their stations within the next four years.

The Commission acknowledges that the digital transition will have a direct impact on Canadian viewers. Consumers will either have to purchase digital TV sets and the necessary equipment to receive digital/HD signals, or a converter box to translate digital signals to analog format for display on their existing sets. In either case, they will be forced to upgrade their television sets at some cost in order to continue to receive the services they currently enjoy. It is noted that a consumer subsidy program is being put in place in the U.S. for households that rely on OTA television reception and that have not upgraded their analog equipment to digital or have not purchased an integrated digital set. That might be an option that will be looked at by another committee.

Canada has had digital OTA broadcasts since Toronto's Citytv started broadcasting in digital ATSC High Definition (HD) in February 2003. In September 2006, Citytv was also the first local OTA station to broadcast its news shows, and most of its original programming, in HD. More stations are expected to follow this direction in light of today's CRTC decision.

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User talk:Worldthoughts

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome!–Doldrums(talk) 22:03, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
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User:Worldthoughts

Simmons blogs at Thoughts on the World and Thoughts on Global Warming.

Articles
Cyber Attacks in Estonia

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Welcome!

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Wolfowitz to quit as head of the World Bank

May 17, 2007

The Executive Directors of the World Bank have issued a statement to the effect that Paul Wolfowitz is to resign as President of the World Bank Group effective 30th June 2007, and that further meetings will take place tomorrow to deal with arrangements for the interim period.

Wolfowitz has faced a number of calls for his resignation in recent weeks after accusations that he had behaved improperly and overlooked a conflict of interest with regard to the pay rise given to his partner, Shaha Riza, an employee of the Bank at the time of his appointment as President, who was subsequently re-assigned to the US State Department.

In their statement, the Executive Directors indicate that having carefully considered the report of a board-member committee which had investigated Wolfowitz's actions, they accepted that all parties had acted ethically, in good faith, and in what were believed to be the best interests of the institution. However the conclusion had to be drawn that there is a need to review the governance framework of the World Bank Group and in particular procedural and other aspects of the Ethics Committee.

The Directors pay tribute to the service that Wolfowitz has given to the World Bank, citing a number of achievements, particularly a number of initiatives involving countries and relief programmes in Africa. They also added regret that the recent events had overshadowed his achievements at the Bank.

In a separate and lengthy statement, Wolfowitz outlined many of the achievements of the Bank during his time as President, and acknowledged the contribution of those working for the Bank in the delivery of its programmes and support for a wide range of organisations throughout the world. He considered however that his resignation was in the best interests of the Bank.

Wolfowitz had enjoyed considerable support from the US Administration, and particular endorsement from President Bush and Vice-President Cheney. However he had been less popular with other governments around the world, particularly in Europe.


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Connor Belanger
That is some pretty scary news. Thank you for posting it.—Connor Belanger 00:04, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

This happened Tuesday.


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The second paragraph about the US and the FCC, etc., is not mentioned in the source. --SVTCobra 00:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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Shaha Riza
I have reverted and amended the point about Shaha Riza being an employee of the bank [at the time of Wolfowitz's appointment] as this is particularly pertinent to the subsequent scandal. Saying only that she was an employee of the State Department does not give sufficient weight to the story. CWiltshire 00:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


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User:Cspurrier/About me

Spurrier, Craig (Wikinews user Cspurrier)
Location: South Carolina, USA Areas of coverage include: Technology, Crime and law. Contact information: Email: [mailto:craig@craigweb.net craig@craigweb.net], ICQ: 119042057, AIM: craigcraigwebnet More information: Wikinews user page | Contact reporter via Talk Page | Browse recent activity | Email this user Accredited User No. A3 / 1808
 * Received accreditation: 23:40, June 10, 2005 (UTC)

Articles I wrote

 * Six charged with the attempted assassination of Fijian coup leader
 * Wikimania 2007 begins in Taipei, Taiwan
 * 65th running of the Aiken Trials held
 * Explosion near Afganistan base kills at least 19, U.S. Vice President may have been target
 * Day 1 report of Wikimania 2006
 * EBay buys VeriSign payment service division
 * Yahoo launches new Podcast Search
 * VeriSign acquires Weblogs.com
 * Oracle buys Innobase
 * First virus to affect handheld gaming console found
 * Australia's High Court rules mod-chips are legal
 * Autodesk to buy Alias
 * UK cable TV operator NTL acquires Telewest
 * Microsoft Office 12 will support PDFs
 * US rejects EU proposal to give control of the Internet to the UN
 * RIAA files 757 lawsuits against file sharers
 * Apple agrees to replace iPod nanos with scratched screens
 * New ten dollar bill for the US
 * FCC extends 911 deadline for VoIP
 * StarOffice 8 launched
 * Microsoft launches MSN adCenter
 * Google Toolbar for Firefox now out of beta
 * New Palm Treo will run Windows Mobile
 * Delta Air Lines to cut up to 9,000 jobs
 * Arizona applies ban on autodialers to mobile phone spam
 * Google prepares to launch WiFi service
 * Sprint/RealNetworks to provide cell phone Internet radio and podcasts in US
 * IDG cancels Macworld Boston
 * Stolen laptop with personal data of more than 98,000 students recovered
 * Dell to drop Itanium-based servers
 * Microsoft announces Xbox 360 launch dates
 * Lexmark releases printer with built-in CD burner
 * Oracle to acquire Siebel for USD 5.85bn
 * US FEMA aid site only supports Windows with Internet Explorer
 * Google hires Vint Cerf, the "father of the Internet”
 * Sony breaks UK sale records with launch of PlayStation Portable
 * Munich delays switch to Linux
 * Linux installed on 2,460 desktop computers in Italian schools
 * Microsoft enters VoIP market with the acquisition of Teleo Inc
 * Microsoft announces name of new version of Windows: Vista
 * Tsunami Warning issued for Indian Ocean due to large earthquake
 * Spyware is changing users' online habits
 * Fiji "running out of patience" with Vanuatu over ban on Fijian biscuits
 * Crown Prince of Kuwait admitted to hospital
 * New top level domain approved
 * FCC requires VoIP providers to have 911 service
 * BBC begins trial program allowing legal TV and radio downloads
 * MPAA sues six BitTorrent sites linking to TV shows
 * Apple updates iMac line
 * Time Warner loses personal data on 600,000 employees
 * Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy movie in theaters
 * Lawsuits filed against students accused of illegally sharing files over the Internet2
 * VoIP penetrates emergency calling infrastructure
 * Proposed bill could force federal weather data offline
 * Iran shuts down Al-Jazeera bureau
 * New version of Opera web browser released
 * Adobe to Purchase Macromedia for $3.4 Billion
 * Survey finds Spam tolerance growing
 * Microsoft releases low-cost Windows XP Starter Edition in Brazil
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700 new forms of life discovered in Antarctic sea

May 18, 2007

At first glance, the Weddell Sea in northwest Antarctica may not appear to be teeming with life. Far below the surface there, though, an international team of scientists together with the British Antarctic Survey (BAS) reported finding at least 700 new species.

The new species identified include carnivorous sponges, free-swimming worms, and 674 species of isopod crustaceans and molluscs. The species were found at depths between 2,500 feet to 20,000 feet (750–6,350 meters). Isopods, one of the most diverse orders of crustaceans, accounts for 585 of the new species discovered.

"The Antarctic deep sea is potentially the cradle of life of the global marine species. Our research results challenge suggestions that the deep sea diversity in the Southern Ocean is poor. We now have a better understanding in the evolution of the marine species and how they can adapt to changes in climate and environments," said Angelika Brandt, a professor at the Zoological Institute and Zoological Museum, University of Hamburg and head researcher of the team who made the discovery.

The international team discovered the new species through three expeditions, between 2002 and 2005, with the research vessel Polarstern. The project was called the Antarctic benthic (the lowest level of the ocean) deep-sea biodiversity project (ANDEEP). At least 14 research groups joined the effort to map the biodiversity of the sea-floor landscape, the continental slope and at different water depths.

"The isopods, ostracods (seed shrimp) and nematodes, which are poor dispersers, include many species currently known only from the Southern Ocean," the report says. The team's findings were published yesterday in the leading scientific journal Nature. The contributors were from the United Kingdom, Germany, Belgium, the United States, Russia and Switzerland.


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Talk:700 new forms of life discovered in Antarctic sea

some links
–Doldrums(talk) 07:33, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * nature article
 * R/V Polarstern the research vessel in which the first two expeditions (also the third?) were made.
 * ANDEEP pages at the Univ. of Hamburg includes details and maps of expedition.
 * I cannot read (German?) is it? What is the copyright status of the map images? DragonFire1024 12:56, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * On the third EL? Copyrighted.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 13:25, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

British?
I'm a bit confused -- is the team British or multi-national led by BAT? Note German scholar quoted... Blum 00:11, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Good point, I've updated the article.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:49, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Editprotected request
Please replace the picture of Antarctica with Image:Antarctica_6400px_from_Blue_Marble.jpg. Thanks, Maxim (talk)  13:11, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

 * ✅. --Jcart1534 (talk) 17:26, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


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It would be pretty incredible that Wikinews would not make use of press releases. See, and then note its source. Publicity is for its stated purpose, the distribution of news, and in this case images. -Edbrown05 08:17, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * A publicity Photo is a free photo. So I am reverting this template's warning tag. I don't even agree with the rest of the language found on the template. -Edbrown05 08:40, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe Doldrums could explain why this page is locked? -Edbrown05 09:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Time to move from U.S. or British legal centric issues to... hmmm "publicity". -Edbrown05 09:19, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

 * publicity photos can be copyrighted and are not automatically released into the public domain (eg. ). we can use publicity images under limited circumstances, asserting fair use or license compliance, but doing so may mean we forgo on the "free content only" objective we have. the recent resolution tells us to find ways to limit such non-free use, so lets find a way to ensure that we do limit non-free use to places where it is particularly needed. copyright tags, their wording etc. are legal issues. if what you want to do is discuss how we shld use or not use or use in a limited way non-free content, the place to do it are the talk pages of WN:EDP or the discussion page for the action plan, not by changing copyright tags to what you would like the law to be. –Doldrums(talk) 09:38, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

The place to do it is right here. And how could a publicity photo not be released into the public domain? That makes no sense. -Edbrown05 10:35, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I have said this several times. This license, allows us to use these images in compliance with US Copyright laws. Not WMF laws. WMF is NOT above the law. We are a news reporting agency. It is impossible for us to use 100% free images 100% of the time. DragonFire1024 10:48, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

 * It has nothing to do with WikiMedia in my opinion, and everything to do with reporting what by media standards are allowable, now that there is a new kid on the block. -Edbrown05 10:59, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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 * Edbrown
 * how could a publicity photo not be released into the public domain? because the two are not the same. a publicity photo may be copyrighted and then released by an organisation (eg. ) for use under certain conditions ("newspapers and bona-fide science magazines and journals may use", "reference must be given to ESO", "Reproduction for all other purposes are subject to individual permission by ESO"). public domain means no-one can assert copyrights over the work. anybody can use it for whatever they want without anybody else's permission.
 * It has nothing to do with WikiMedia and everything to do with reporting what we do here has to comply with WMF policies. if you think those policies are incompatible with reporting, tell (us and) the WMF why, if u can't convince (us and) them, go do ur reporting elsewhere. so long as you stay here, follow the policy or help draft a change. ignore the policy is not an option.
 * DF
 * This license, allows us to use these images in compliance with US Copyright laws. we use the publicity tag to declare that the images are used either under a fair use claim (not a license) or in compliance with the conditions under which the photo was released. it is not enough to say "i use this under fair use claim". fair use claim must be substantiated. we must do our best to ensure that claim has some legal validity. the way to do that is to provide the information and rationale described in Fair use rationale guideline.
 * license compliance will typically mean that the image is not free for redistribution, modification etc. the board resolution has made it clear that such images shld be used in a limited way, and only when necessary. so again, some guidelines need to be drawn up telling us when it's ok to use such non-free images, and then each image can be checked if it meets those guidelines.

 * WMF is NOT above the law. Red herring. nobody is saying it is. but we need to follow the law as well as WMF policies. period.
 * It is impossible for us to use 100% free images 100% of the time. so draw up guidelines telling u when it's useful, important, necessary to use non-free images and follow them. don't use this as an argument to say all non-free image use is ok, because that is against WMF policy.

finally, if you want this kind of explanations, u'll do better to ask a question instead of telling other contributors 1. they're wrong. 2. they don't know how Wikinews works and you do 3. they don't have the best interests of Wikinews at heart and you do. –Doldrums(talk) 11:21, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

The template is too long, too yellow, and too ugly.--Kádár Tamás 11:05, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe so, but the wording is what is required by law. The color is standard. DragonFire1024 11:06, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And all that Kádár Tamás, which is why for it being reverted. Image policy is, ah, you probably already know. -Edbrown05 11:17, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

This is not happening. Really it can't be. People are saying that you can use their content, and Wikinews is reticent about it. -Edbrown05 11:43, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thats not exactly what is happening. What is happening is that people are saying you can use this, but only for news reporting, etc, and we (or at least somebody is) are feeling that that isn't good enough. Some publicity images are public domain, some have various restrictions. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:29, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

WN:EDP discussion
How could a publicity photo be copyrighted? -Edbrown05 10:31, 19 May 2007 (UTC) If a photo is a copyright infringement, then don't blame Wikinews, blame the uploader. Can't believe I'm getting crud over this. -Edbrown05 10:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

 * For the record, publicity photos are usually copyrighted. However certain rights are offered when they are made available to the press and public.  Politicians and the like want to do this so you use a photo that shows their good side, and they want to give you the least rights they can.  If it wasn't for the negative publicity they'd all say you couldn't use their images to report bad news.
 * On the other hand, I've one major objection to what is called the "legal" version of this template - and that is that images should be labelled for deletion. Depreciated use I can understand, but I don't want policy to allow some well-meaning Commoner to come along and change the photo on our first article about Tony Blair to something 10 years after the article was written. We do news, when it is 10 days old it's history. If you think we should change that, go read some Orwell, the term you're looking for is Newspeak. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:45, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * i share some of your concerns about replacing images. i think the deletion bit was introduced as a way of implementing the bit about the resolution about images of living persons. i have no problems with discussing or implementing changes on this template or to broader discussions about the scope and extent of the EDP, but i do have problems with people who have no idea what their change does, but insist it remain nonetheless. –Doldrums(talk) 10:52, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Copyright remains on of the least-understood sets of laws by the public at large. I want a depreciated clause in our EDP - for all the existing licenses. So the map of Iran I listed on DR would be kept, just used on the article it currently sits on, and not used again if someone can make a replacement.
 * However, I have no idea how the template should be set up. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I have no idea what a language change to this template would do. Does that mean it shouldn't be done? I think not. 'Fair use' is not a publicity photograph. From that scratch, I'm starting-Edbrown05 11:24, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * This is horrible to try and explain. Public domain means you can do anything you want with it.  There is no need to assert Fair Use.  Fair Use - in my limited understanding - is where an image is copyrighted, but available with some restrictions.  I'd be quite happy to have the template specify that the image should never be used without first doing a search for a free alternative that maybe wasn't available when the image we have was initially used. To be honest, the grief I've seen around here on this issue has made me wonder if I need a lawyer to help with one of my hobbies. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:37, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The more I try and figure these things out, the more I agree with the ideas of the pirate party. :) Fair use is when the photo is copyrighted, but the law allows us to ignore the copyrights on it in specific situations. I think the main problem here is we have different definitions as what constitutes a publicity photo. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:36, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Change the name
Publicity images are the kind of images of superstars like Image:Aishwarya Rai Cannes05.jpg, which are not linked to specific events, and I personally don't think we should use them. We should have some kind of Unique Event Press Release -template, for images like for example Image:Windows Vista demo.jpg. On the other hand we need more diverse fair use templates like for Posters, book covers, new products or inventions, ... --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 13:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

 * This is a publicity photograph Image:Michael Nutter.png. I'm left wondering why the image by Cspurrier, and mentioned above by Stevenfruitsmaak, hasn't been deleted: Image:Windows Vista demo.jpg (<-- that image isn't even sourced.) -Edbrown05 08:02, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

 * If it's on Commons then it's ok. Slapped an image-source on the Vista image, could get deleted.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 09:35, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Meanwhile, individuals and organizations will rise to the occasion and say, hey, you can use this image to disseminate information. Like this image by DragonFire: Image:Amphipod crustacean.jpg. I'm going to post it to Commons, and by the time Commons comes around to deleting it (which it won't in my opinion), means that Wikinews then needs an alternative. -09:39, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

 * It's not suitable for commons: it is indeed released for use in news stories, but not all rights have been released. We can claim fair use however.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 09:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Why is it not suitable for Commons? -Edbrown05 09:59, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * its only released for the press. Its not released for random things. (Although they might be open to that if we emailed them) Bawolff ☺☻ 19:33, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

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User:Kádár Tamás~enwikinews

Tamás Kádár

www.kadartamas.com

A Magyar Képzőművészeti Egyetem hallgatójának új festményeit a Yacht Magazin 2007 májusi száma közölte le.

I was born in Dunaujvaros in 1983, I had extra drawing lessons at the Arany Janos primary school. I had studies in the Specialized art and craft school graphic field, and i chose photography as the additional subject in the fifth year. In 2003 i started to learn at the University of Fine Arts at the graphic department.

Drawing camps at summer: Orfu (1992),Zebegény(1993), Mónosbél(1994), Képespuszta(1995,1996, 1997, 1998), The first sailor camp of the fine arts : Tokaj-Szeged(1997), The Pedagogical Institute of the capital city specialized art and craft camp: Fonyód-Alsóbélatelep: (2000), MKE: Tihany(2004, 2005).

Teachers:: Horváth Éva, Kádárné Szepesi Ibolya, Sipos Endre, Magyar József, Énekes Ferenc, Károlyi Zsuzsanna, Tulipán László, Eszik Alajos, Farkas Ádám, Kocsis Imre.

Results: tollinga.hu drawing competition (extra prize-2007), county Hubertus on competition "Hubertus" prize, a millecentenáriumi county creative afternoon I. prize, announced at a competition for occasion of the water's international day II.prize, the national Luxexpo's competition: extra prize, announced at a competition for the national art and craft by Gallery of product of children's grand prize, the székesfehérvár's "health for everybody" 111.county drawing competition II.prize.

Exhibitions: Arany János Általános Iskola (Dunaújváros, 2003, 2006), Fovárosi József Attila Muvelodési ház(2002), Ráday Galéria(2002), Fovárosi Szabó Ervin könyvtár(2004), MKE(Magyar Képzomuvészeti Egyetem - 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006), Budapest Galéria(2005), Várfok Galéria(2005), szentendrei Muvészetmalom(2005), Iparmuvészeti Múzeum: kupolaterem (ESSL AWARD)(2005). MKE Aula: JI KING – Karátson Gábor (2006) Szivacs Galéria, open the exhibition: István Rohonczi.(2007) College of Dunaújváros "Dunaújváros's bridge, flying" photo exhibition(2007), Ferrari competition (Közlekedési Múzeum)(2007).

Newspapers/Sources:

http://www.kadartamas.com 6.March.2007, Dunaújvárosi Hírlap, "Vitorlák, hajók.." - András Boda. 19.August.2006, Ultima Hora, "El village vive un día de Arte" ( Sábado.19 de Agosto 2006) 2 máj. 2007, Yacht Magazin, Tamás Rácz

Articles
global warming, Hungary, China, Budapest, Mallorca, art, paint Category:Budapest

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RE Global Warming
Sure :) Here is a start. Scroll down a bit: Category:Climate change. Also there are some links below to help as well :) DragonFire1024 09:28, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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Global warming
Get a sun tan. (side benefit) :-) -Edbrown05 10:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

category:Budapest /portal:Budapest
It is generally our policy to only create portals/cats for cities that have articles associated with them. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:35, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

 * I think the category:Budapest is not problem to you, because u didn't do it. I hope  I just helped to you.--Kádár Tamás 09:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * My problem is that there is no news for it. Portals/categories for things that are not countries need articles on them before creation. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:37, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:vitorlas4.jpg
I have nominated your image for deletion at. It is not being used in any news articles. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  02:51, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

New languages
Hey,

You want to start a request on meta, at Requests for new languages.

Thanks! TheFearow 01:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
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Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Kádár Tamás. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Kádár Tamás~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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Category talk:Climate change

This category is recursively listed in itself. I believe one of the infoboxes is to blame and should be subst'd and edited. Anyone else have ideas on how to solve this? I've seen it a few times. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:33, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed by adding the image from the template directly onto the page. There might be a way to edit the infobox too, some parserfunctions could only add categories to main namespace pages. —Zachary talk 10:46, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Add Bloomberg and Clinton create green alliance, Sunday, April 17, 2011
99.56.122.135 (talk) 01:32, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

 * This is done by editing the article itself, rather than by editing the category. This article is not yet archived, so it doesn't require someone with special privileges to add categories to it.  (The same is true of the other article listed here.)  Nevertheless, I've added Category:Climate change to article Bloomberg and Clinton create green alliance, as requested.  --Pi zero (talk) 01:47, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

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Portal talk:Hungary

maybe a little bit bigger flag is better than now.--Kádár Tamás 10:50, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Done :-) DragonFire1024 10:54, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:Fans4u

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User:Guillom/sandbox

 Upcoming events in

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You are invited to post on this page upcoming events you are aware of, so as to allow Wikinews users to cover them.

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 Upcoming events in

Archive

See also Portal:

You are invited to post on this page upcoming events you are aware of, so as to allow Wikinews users to cover them.

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Wikinews:Upcoming events

This page centralizes information about upgoing events or invitations from third parties. Wikinews users are encouraged to cover them. Events are be sorted geographically

Geographical areas
Possible newsworthy events which may require coverage are presently listed by continent plus a few sub-continents. As usage of this service expands further regional splits will be implemented.

These subpages could also be added in the design of relevant portals.

Syntax
It is better to use Template:Upcoming event to format your events.

Calendar
A calendar-like layout could be very useful to display such information. There would be a calendar per region.

List of MediaWiki calendar extensions:
 * mw:Extension:Calendar (Cdamian)
 * mw:Extension:Calendar
 * mw:Extension:Calendar (Barrylb)
 * mw:Extension:Calendar (Shane)
 * mw:Extension:Calendar (Shane) extended
 * mw:Extension:SpecialCalendar
 * mw:Extension:Simple Calendar
 * mw:User:Hex2bit/Calendar

 * We might be able to do that with fancy templates somehow (hard, but possible I think). Bawolff ☺☻ 22:06, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

 * That would be good for us internally, but that seems useless for outsiders to add to. --  Zanimum 14:30, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

RSS feeds
RSS feeds for each region could be useful both for Wikinews users and other journalists.
 * Well we have the crappy history feed. It doesn't format nicely, but it gets the needed info through: http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Upcoming_events/North_America&action=history&feed=rss Bawolff ☺☻ 22:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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Phone: (812) 935-7245
 * Title: Heart of Sailing
 * Date: June 30, 2007
 * Description: My name is George Saidah, Founder of Heart of Sailing, an non profit organization, that introduces sailing to special needs children as form of education and recreational therapy. I would like to invite you to sail with us in Surf City, NJ, starting Saturday 30th of June, to check for yourself how sailing is so therapeutic and so much fun for the special need children and for the whole family. It is an experience that is so unique and so therapeutic in so many different areas, that you will be amazed by the children's reactions.
 * Contact: George Saidah, Executive Director, Heart of Sailing

Fax (866) 609-0807

gsaidah splat heartofsailing dot org
 * Comments: A press release was attached to the ticket. I shall forward this document to any interested parties. --Skenmy(t•c•w•i) 20:00, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

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Newcastle United appoint Sam Allardyce

May 15, 2007

Newcastle United appointed Sam Allardyce as manager on May 15, following the resignation of Glenn Roeder on May 6.

Allardyce had turned the opportunity to manage Newcastle down when offered it in the past as he chose to stay on as manager of Bolton Wanderers. However, Allardyce's eight year stint as Bolton manager came to an end following his resignation on April 29, 2007. Allardyce cited that his need for a rest as well as his desire to win silverware was behind his decision.

When asked what made Newcastle a more likely destination for trophies than Bolton, he replied: "Everything about it. The resources, the facilities, the fans, the amount of revenue that can be generated by a club of this size. No disrespect to Bolton, it is a club I love, but this club is massive in terms of what it can achieve."

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Norton AntiVirus cripples thousands of PCs in China

May 18, 2007

A routine upgrade of anti-virus software has disabled tens of thousands of PCs in China, according to local media reports. The faulty upgrade caused Symantec's Norton AntiVirus software to remove critical Windows XP system files, the reports state.

The system files moved or deleted by the software include netapi32.dll and lsasrv.dll, according to Sohu News. The software incorrectly identifies the files as being infected with the Backdoor.Haxdoor trojan. With these files removed, Windows XP will no longer start up, and even the system safe mode no longer functions. Only Chinese-language versions of Windows appear to be affected so far.

The Norton AntiVirus application is part of Norton's 360 suite and it is pre-installed in many PCs sold in China, indicating that the problem could potentially affect millions of users.

Patched PCs vulnerable
The problem appears to stem from an update Microsoft released in November 2006, which contained new versions of some system files, as PCs which have not applied this update are unaffected.

Symantec has acknowledged the issue and is working on a solution, reports said - although there is no apparent mention of it on the company's Chinese website.

PC owners affected by the issue may be able to restore the missing files from their Windows XP installation CDs. However, since piracy of Windows XP is common in China, some users may not have access to these.


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File talk:Newcastle United FC crest.PNG

How can I name a source for this image? There's no one website that has this image, it is just commonly known as Newcastle's badge. I see Arsenal's badge has no source provided. Sir-Nobby 13:53, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The source of the image is where you saved the image from before downloading it. I will also add the img-src template to the arsenal image now you have brought it to my attention.  Also the copyright info about the image can be checked using the source link and should not link internally.--Mark Talk 15:28, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

It is from www.nufc.co.uk. Sir-Nobby 19:00, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Need to be a bit more specific than this if possible - is there a specific page that its on - i had a quick look and couldnt see it so if you could provide a rdirect linkt hen this would be good. Thnaks --Mark Talk 19:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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Norton antivirus article
pls see the article's talk page for further discussion. –Doldrums(talk) 14:18, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Norton AntiVirus cripples thousands of PCs in China

moved google search result from article to here.
 * All Chinese news sources regarding this event. –Doldrums(talk) 14:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

concerns
i can find no confirmation of these claims in english language sources. or on Symantec's statement. the chinese language sources, when machine translated only report that some computers have been affected, do not say thousands, and say many more may be affected. therefore, the claim in the Wikinews article, that "thousands are affected" is unsourced. pls do not publish this until these concerns are resolved. the easiest way to resolve this is to provide reliable english language sources or to have the chinese language sources vetted by an established Wikimedia editor who knows the language or to publish this article at the Chinese Wikinews. –Doldrums(talk) 14:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Computerworld is the first English media confirming this news
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9019958&intsrc=hm_list


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Wikinews talk:Upcoming events

Right place?
Would the Foundation allow us to restart this at wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Upcoming events? Note the no language code in front. That would be really good for if someone in Ohio finds something in France, or someone in Rio finding something in Sydney. -- Zanimum 15:54, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

 * wikinews.org is a forwarder to en.wikinews.org - I also don't fully understand your reasoning... --Skenmy(t•c•w•i) 15:56, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Well, technically wikinews.org shouldn't redirect to en, it should be a multilingual portal. But beyond a multilingual portal, we could set up an entire (hidden) wiki, that would be accessible by direct link from any of the Wikinewses.

 * The reason I suggest this, if we have an event taking place in Paris, and we add it to our English Wikinews Upcoming Events list, that's fine and dandy. But only English speaking Wikinewsies from France are going to see the listing. The better place to put it would be the French Wikinews, on an equivalent of the "Upcoming events" page. So the suggest would sit dormant, likely not be covered.

 * But if we had one portal for everyone, then everyone would just have one place to go. I dunno. --  Zanimum 17:02, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Note that there have also been several fruitless efforts at something similar on Meta, e.g. Press Corps and Scheduled attendance for Wikinews or Commons. This seems a long-standing problem that needs a definitive solution. Problem with meta is that people engaged in local projects don't visit it. Another thing is that organising human resources in a way as to assign people to different tasks has been met with comments of "un-wikiness" in the past, completely idiotically imho.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 17:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Okay, it wasn't to assign people to various things, it was to increase their potential for awareness to particular things. --  Zanimum 13:45, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

 * That might make more sense: there are too few editors here to cover France, Rio and Sydney.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:43, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Claimed/unclaimed events?
Once events are claimed, can we move them to a separate section, or better yet, separate page? Otherwise, I feel a little weird posting about relatively trivial things on the North American page. -- Zanimum 14:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

 * I don't understand the problem... please elaborate.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 11:46, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Okay, suppose 50 people post 60 things to this page. Suddenly, the neat and tidy template that's been created is doesn't do too much good. You have to sort through 3 (North America, Oceania) to 30 (Europe, Africa) countries to find stuff near you, and then when you do find things near you, they're passed due, because they got hidden in-between everything else. --  Zanimum 18:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Yes maybe a claimed / unclaimed section would be nice. Or, maybe in the future, a map of where the events are and where us Wikinewsies are... --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 08:33, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I wonder.......
....if we should maybe revive this??--Bddpaux (talk) 00:09, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I’d say yes but only if it can be managed properly. I’ve only tagged it as historical because the last edit here seems to have been ten years ago. --Green Giant (talk) 01:18, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

title: Wikinews talk:Upcoming events