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April 26, 2005

Greenpeace activists have scaled the house of Britain's Deputy Prime Minister, John Prescott, and then mounted 60 square feet of solar panels on the roof.

The four men and four women were highlighting what they believe is Prescott's failure to make new houses, for which he has responsibility, more energy efficient.

After putting the solar panels up, they unfurled a large banner which read ''Oi 2 Jags! Hit targets, not voters''.

John Prescott's wife was alone in the house when the protesters climbed the building. She was reportedly awoken by their noise.

One protester, Laura Yates, 27, said, "The Deputy PM's got a reputation for straight-talking," she said from the roof, "but since the election kicked off we've heard barely a squeak about climate change from big hitters like him. As long as the average existing British house is responsible for six tonnes of CO2 every year he's not dealing with the climate crisis. He's in danger of hitting more voters than climate targets. Whoever wins on May 5th needs to get serious about energy efficiency."

Speaking from the roof by mobile phone, she told Reuters, "It's a major contributor to the climate change problem and Prescott could do something about this, particularly with the millions of new homes that are going to be built in Britain over the next years," she said.

"He's overseeing this house building programme and he should be ensuring that every one of these new homes is built to zero emissions standards," she added.

The protesters climbed down at 2.50pm and were promptly arrested by local police for "harassment of a person in a dwelling". The police then handcuffed them before taking them away in a van. The protesters left the solar panels by the door of the house, offering to come back and install the panels at a later date.

A police officer emphasised to BBC News that the distress of the event had been immense for Mrs Prescott: "It's not pleasant to be invaded in the privacy of your own home and it is being treated seriously. She's very distressed but she's pleased with the happy outcome."

John Prescott is currently touring the country as part of Labour's General Election 2005 campaign. Speaking from Gloucester, he told BBC News 24, "It's now clearly a publicity stunt and it terrorised my wife in the early hours in the morning to see all those men scrambling over the building. [Mrs Prescott] did not know who they were. It's deplorable and unacceptable even for a publicity stunt."

The protesters were challenged by the armed police officers who guard Mr Prescott's home, but reportedly the officers withdrew when they realised it was a peaceful protest.


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British mother paralyzed in stabbing communicates with police

April 26, 2005 Abigail Witchalls, the 26-year-old mother of one who was stabbed on April 20, has begun communicating what happened to the police.

Abigail was walking with her 21-month-old son at 4pm in a quiet country lane near London when she was attacked and stabbed once in the back of the neck, leaving her paralyzed from the neck down. She can only communicate via blinking and facial expressions.

Surrey, the county in which the attack occurred, is statistically the safest in England and Wales, with the lowest incident rate of serious violent crime.

Surrey Assistant Chief Constable Mark Rowley said in a press conference this morning that Abigail's condition is continuing to improve as she is treated in the hospital.

"I would like to start this morning with the good news that Abigail’s condition does appear to be continuing to improve. She has sustained an horrific injury, but her condition is no longer critical and she has been well enough to meet with two of our experienced detectives and communicate with them. They have been able to take a statement from her using questions that she can respond to in a positive or negative way by mouthing words or blinking.

"Abigail has made it clear that she wants to help the police inquiry in whatever way she can and it is her courage and determination that has allowed us to communicate with her at such an early stage after so horrific an attack. She is an incredibly brave and determined young woman.

"Abigail has managed to communicate a message to us that she wishes to give to you and I will start by reading this out. She says: “I am improving and everybody’s prayers are helping enormously. Thank you for all the flowers which are beautiful. If you still want to give flowers please donate instead to the World Poverty Day through the Catholic Agency for Overseas Development or any other way. Thank you."

Detective Superintendent Adrian Harper then talked about the details of the attack they had learned from Abigail.

"My officers spent several hours with Abigail yesterday taking the statement, together with members of her family. The amount of information that Abigail has managed to give us is extraordinary given her current condition. As I will shortly explain, she has been through an even more harrowing experience than we imagined and the strain of going through it with her at her hospital bed was a very emotional experience for both her family members and both of my detectives.

"The bravery and strength of Abigail is extraordinary - she is determined to help catch this man as soon as possible and insisted on being interviewed for around six hours yesterday and wants to continue again today. This is a most unusual interview process - with a very intelligent and strong young woman - communicating through blinking, mouthing and facial expressions

"What Abigail has told us is very significant to this inquiry. We are now able to work on confirmed information directly from her rather than having to rely on what she said to other witnesses and the evidence of local residents. What she has said has changed the focus of the inquiry and enabled us to rule out the man with the blue Peugeot that we had previously arrested and bailed. We now believe that he was probably in the area at the time but that he was not involved in the assault on Abigail.

"Abigail has now been able to tell us that she first saw the man who attacked her at about 3.45pm on the afternoon of Wednesday 20 April, on the public footpath along Water Lane in Little Bookham. The man was in a blue estate car, four-door plus the rear hatch, right hand drive, older style, plain, all one colour.

"The man was in the blue vehicle ahead of Abigail. The vehicle drove towards and past her and they looked at each other. At that point Abigail started to feel very uneasy and put Joseph into the buggy and started to walk home along the track. When she was about three quarters of the way along the track she turned and saw that the car had pulled up some way behind at that the male was out of the car and coming towards her. She started to panic and immediately began running along the footpath with Joseph still in his buggy.

"Abigail reached the gate that leads onto the lane off Burnhams Road but could not open it. She the heard the man say, you have dropped your purse. She turned around and saw that the man had grabbed hold of Joseph and was holding a knife to his throat.

"The man indicated to Abigail to come towards him, which she did. He then grabbed her hair, pulled her down towards the ground and as he did so stabbed her once in the back of the neck with the knife. He then [pushed] the buggy, with Joseph still in it, on top of her and ran off.

"Abigail has said that the offender was alone and was someone she does not know. She describes him as being aged between 20 and 35 years-old, with short dark wavy or scruffy hair, between 5ft 10in, her height, and 6ft 4in tall, her husband’s height, with a long thin face and prominent cheekbones. He was wearing looped silver earrings, roughly three-quarters of an inch in diameter in both ears. She also describes quite a deep voice, a pale face and black bags under his eyes. She has also said that she believes that he was under the influence of drink or drugs. She does not know why he attacked her and he does not appear to have attempted to rob her. Her purse and mobile phone were not taken.

"This man is clearly an extremely dangerous offender. Anyone who is prepared to threaten a young child and try to kill his mother in front of him is clearly capable of anything. It is our duty to inform the public about the danger that this man poses and appeal to everyone for information that can help us to catch him as soon as possible.

"The appeal I want to make is quite precise. We could easily be overwhelmed by information that would hamper the inquiry rather than help it. What we need is very specific. Do you know a man who fits this description, who has access to a blue estate car and who could have been in the Bookham area on the afternoon of Wednesday 20 April. If you know anyone who fits this profile, if you live with him or he is your child you must come forward to us. I repeat, anyone who is prepared to act in the way that this offender has done is clearly capable of anything and is a danger to anyone who comes into contact with him, no matter who they are.

"Please do not approach him but contact Surrey Police on 0845 125 2222 with information or call 999 immediately if you know where he is."

Assistant Chief Constable Mark Rowley ended the press conference by saying "It is hard to imagine a more compelling picture of vulnerability and innocence than a mother and toddler chased attacked and left for dead so brutally.

"There is no clear motive to this attack such as robbery or sexual assault, although the offender may well have been under the influence of drink or drugs. He is clearly a very dangerous man who must be caught as soon as possible. We are conducting an enormous operation, already committing over 150 officers and have gathered a wealth of material for forensic examination but need the public's help to identify the offender as soon as possible.

"I would reiterate the appeal that Detective Superintendent Adrian Harper has just made, to appeal to the conscience of every citizen to help us catch this brutal and dangerous man. This is a crime so horrific that I would hope that, for anyone watching this appeal, helping us identify the offender would come before any loyalty to family, friends or even criminal associates - this man must be caught."

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You can listen to the press conference here. It's at the very start of the broadcast. Dan100 (Talk) 19:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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What is "UpsideDownWorld" ? Anyone have info, their credibility, etc? Thanx 68.39.174.150 20:21, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * That is http://www.upsidedownworld.org, a new site that seems to mainly focus on Latin America and deliver news with a leftist, progressive slant toward activism. The site seems to be about 6 months old, although I have not researched that in depth.  Don't know about their credibility. DouglasGreen 23:17, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I dispute the NPOV of this article for the following reasons:
 * 1) It is drawn entirely from leftist sources
 * 2) The source of the article appears to be Marxism, and the general tenor of the article appears to be motivated by the positive portrayal of leftist and Marxists, and a negative portrayal of right-wing figures
 * 3) The claims for torture are not well documented and appear entirely one-sided, being claims of a woman who says she was cut although there are no witnesses to her allegations, even though a policeman was allegedly stationed there
 * 4) The article, and the others that it is based on, appear to claim that Jorge Sobish, a governor and Presidential candidate of Argentina, and other government and police figures are behind the attack on that woman... this is completely unsubstantiated, and no one is given a chance to refute that charge in the article DouglasGreen 00:25, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Douglas, what would you recommend?
 * Delete news articles such as this. This means when corrupt officials deny a story, and there is no 'respectable' source that the news is suppressed.
 * Post articles such as this, reported so that it is clear that the allegations are allegations, and therefore, since this is a wiki, anyone who is able can confirm or deny the allegations, by adding to the story, also using suitable attribution.
 * One of the key allegations is that the police officer did nothing and is therefore is complicit. How can you then argue that the officer in question should act as a witness?
 * Unfortunately, in the real world, situations such as this occur all the time. Wikinews is a news forum, not a religion. We should put our desire to tell news above our desire for every article to represent comment from both sides from the start.
 * If you can add to the story fine. Please please do so. Otherwise, it is told using the information available, which I believe is credible. ZNet is, although openly left wing, as high a standard of publication as I think you would be able to find, probably much more rigorous than many newspapers that are never questioned here as sources.
 * Your policy if adpoted outside of wikinews would lead to this kind of attitude: 'That "wikinews" is not a respoectable source since anyone can edit it and the contents can change at any moment. We should not accept stories from there.'
 * I think it would be acceptable to question the NPOV based on what sources are used, if, and only if, the writer deliberately omitted or removed other sources. Otherwise any and all sources should be acceptable, if they are openly attributed. You are welcome to add information to the article, which could include a characterisation for the readers benefit of the types of sources used, if you think that would pass NPOV itself.
 * Please remove the dispute tag if you think this will solve your dispute. If not, I think you better provide some evidence that these sources are actually unreliable, rather than that they simply cover a particular political agenda.
 * If you can provide email addresses and translators in order to seek comment from the accused, I will be more than happy to contact them myself, however, based on previous experiences I doubt it will be successful, and certainly not timely. This is why the article was published as it is, in the hope that others would add to confirm or deny, as well as to educate.
 * By the way, I think if we could attract some spanish speakers that there may be news articles in spanish about this. I hoped that some spanish speaker would read it and add some content, or a follow-up. Perhaps someone may yet. - Simeon 08:12, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I apologize in advance for the lengthiness of my reply...

Here are some links I found searching the web on Jorge Sobisch:

 * International Support for the Workers of Zanon - Zanon workers appeal to "President of Argentina, Néstor Kirchner, the Governor of the province of Neuquén, Jorge Sobisch, Federal Judge Rafael Barreiro, and other members of the government and nation of Argentina" to keep their factory. Don't mention having any trouble with Sobisch at all.
 * Jorge Sobish speaks at investor breakfast - has picture of Sobisch
 * Comments by Sobish and background - Sobish is Croation. He said in this article, "Why should we be prisoners of a system that is inefficient and concentrates all power in the capital?" he asked in an interview.  Doesn't sound too power-hungry to me.
 * Former associate mentions Sobisch "In 1985 I founded 'El Diario de Neuquén[vi]' along with other businessmen like Pedro Salvatori, Jorge Sobisch (both former governors of Neuquén) and Amadeo Riva."
 * The Militant - "A socialist newsweekly published in the interests of working people" - Discusses 2002 activities of Sobisch and factory workers. It describes: 1) People complaining about his cutting health care funding 2) Alleges that he arrested 4 union officials on false charges.
 * Update--Argentine workers take over factories to save jobs "After three years under worker control, the provincial government of Neuquén re-launched an attack against Zanon in the same month where the workers reached a record high in production, sales and quality. In recent, weeks the workers of Zanon have been on alert of a threat of eviction. Neuquén's governor Jorge Sobisch is pressuring the 420 workers in Zanon to leave their job posts inside the factory and work building prefabricated houses in a government sponsored micro-enterprise project targeted for the unemployed. The federal Supreme Court sent a petition to the Neuquén provincial government to put into action an eviction order without any delay. The courts have also refused to legally recognize Zanon's proposal to form FatSinPat (Factories without bosses) as a workers cooperative. Essentially, the government has been planning to open the doors for police to evict the factory.  The workers of Zanon are firm in their position to defend the factory at all costs."

None of these links, some of which are written by militants and Marxists, charge Sobish with anything worse than trying to evict and resettle workers in new jobs, based on a process of law, through court order--at worst they claim he filed false charges against 4 people, which is a claim that they should press in a court of law. In fact this same group, Zanon, has appealed to him and others to keep their factory, and when requested, groups of police have been sent to defend Zanon workers against charges of violence that they raised. The claim that the policeman that the victim called was somehow in league with her supposed attacker is completely unsupported in fact, it is a conspiracy theory.

Now here is my discussion of the sources of this article:

 * Another Attack on Zanon Occupied Factory This source is unsupported and highly biased. "In March, the government and security forces representing the factory's old ownership have used tactics of torture and kidnapping - reminiscent of Argentina's military dictatorship (1976-1983) in which 30,000 people, mostly activists, were disappeared in the dirty war. These attacks have continued, targeting the same woman who in March was followed, kidnapped, tortured and attacked her home. On April 14, this woman was attacked in her home. While her compañero, who is a worker at Zanon went to the supermarket, a man entered the side door of her house and brutally beat her. She was hospitalized and is in critical condition. On March 4 a group of four individuals (three men and a woman) kidnapped the wife of an employee at Zanon. The forced her into a green Ford Falcon, a model of car security operatives used to kidnap activists during the dictatorship, sending a chilling reminder of the dirty war. They tortured her and cut her face, hands, arms and breasts. They gave details of how they carefully followed her and have detailed information about her movements."  We are supposed to believe that the government is cracking down on an entire factory based on the fact that some woman was assaulted by some people driving a green car?  How do we know that this woman, out of all 410 Zanon employees, is not the victim of some other kind of violence?  Why would the government repeatedly target and threaten one woman, who is not even apparently in a position of authority?

 * Another Attack on Zanon Occupied Factory This is a reprint of the same exact article as above, I don't know why it is listed twice. In regard to your comments above about ZNet, notice that they are just reprinting the article of Grupo Alavio -- it is not a "ZNet" article.

 * Member of Worker-Run Factory in Argentina Was Kidnapped, Tortured "The woman called the workers at Zanon and the police. Police surrounded her house to protect her family throughout the night. By morning, however, there was only one policeman on guard. At 9 am one of her kidnappers returned through the back door and repeated what he had done to her in the car: insulting her and cutting her with a knife. When the man left, the one policeman who was on guard said he did not hear or see anything." You say this implies that the police are complicit in this woman's attack.  It could equally well be taken to imply that her account of the attack is fictitious, given that the only other person at the scene heard and saw nothing.  My point is we don't really know what is happening to that woman and who is responsible.  Why would the police send a whole group of policeman to protect this woman if their aim is to really ignore what is happening to her?  Alejandro Lopez said, "The police have not helped Zanon…nothing goes on in Neuquen without the consent of the local government."  Does he mean to imply that every kidnapping or act of torture must be cleared with the local police beforehand?  If so, then that is certainly different than the way they do things everywhere else in the world, where sometimes people break the law without prior government approval.

My problem with the article is that, based completely on unsupported allegations in a highly politicized situation, it portrays Sobish as a right-wing bully and thug who is abducting, torturing, and planning to kill factory workers. Absolutely nothing is presented questioning this view, which is taken as proved, factual, and given. In actuality, what appears to be happening, is a legal struggle between some group and their government, in which the group has vested interest in a factory they have occupied. Someone, who may or may not be associated with the government in any way, may have abducted, assaulted, and threatened one of these workers.

I don't think Wikinews should be a forum for anyone to come along and air unsubstantiated charges as though they were fact. I am going to rewrite the end of the article to what I believe is more NPOV standards based on the new sources; if you don't like it, please revert the article and we can discuss why. DouglasGreen 01:00, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

OK, I tinkered around with the end of the article and incorporated new information that I hope is useful. Although it is still a hard-hitting article that raises tough questions, it is more balanced now IMHO and sheds a little more light on the character of Sobisch so he is not just some opaque, threating figure. I myself do not believe that he is behind the violent attack on that woman, or that the factory workers will be forced to "defend the factory with their lives". But I don't think this article should be deleted, only repaired and improved. I have removed the NPOV flag accordingly. Thank you for your patience, if you finished reading this far :-). DouglasGreen 01:48, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Douglas,

 * I don't have time right now to read any of your work (to article or discussion), but thanks, I am glad you removed the POV flag and worked on the article, not just the discussion page! I think people have become a little tentative to work on articles directly, and I'm not sure why... I will try to look again at this article later and see if I agree with your changes. - Simeon 07:38, 1 May 2005 (UTC)


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Ezer Weizman former Israeli president dies at the age of 81

April 26, 2005 Ezer Weizman, former President of the State of Israel died at the age of 81 on April 24, 2005.

A World War II fighter pilot, Ezer Weizman led the formation of the Israeli Air Force which played a decisive role in Israel's wars with Arab nations. He left the military and began his political career in 1969, going on to help found the Likud Party, serving as Defence Minister, was closely involved in the Camp David accords and the treaty with Egypt, and advocated negotiations with the Palestinians.

Initially a hawk, Israel-born Weizman made a very public transition to the dove political views, saying Jews had to "share this part of the world" with Arabs. It was his belief that peace, and a strong military, were Israel's strongest defences.

Weizman was a nephew of Israel's first President, Chaim Weizmann, and was himself elected in 1993 on the dovish Labour ticket. His seven years in office led critics to describe him as the most political President of Israel, a largely ceremonial position.

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US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice visits Latin America

April 29, 2005

The US Condoleezza Rice began a five day trip to Latin America Tuesday. She is expected to visit the following countries: Brazil, Colombia, Chile, and El-Salvador.

She arrived at Brasilia Air Base today at 04:00 local time, and proceeded to a hotel in Brasilia.


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New Government introduced to the Italian Parliament

April 26, 2005

Today around 6pm the new Italian Government was introduced to the House of Parliament.

This government turns out to have a larger number of ministers, vice-ministers and undersecretaries than the previous. There are 9 viceministers and 62 undersecretaries (to which Undersecretary of the Council Gianni Letta should be added.)

The new government also turns out to have the greatest number of ministers, vice-ministers and undersecretaries of all the governments of the Italian Republic. The number of vice-ministers has reached 9, the number of undersecretaries is 62 (plus Letta). This has caused the unusual sight of the benches of the Government being overcrowded (there are only 25 benches). The crowding is expected to increase, because in the emiciclo (the party of the Parliamentarians) there were few Parliamentarians today, since the House vote of confidence in the new government will be carried out only tomorrow.

Prime Minister Berlusconi has said that the next elections will take place in May of 2006 and this government will continue to serve until then.


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Lebanon goodbye to Syrian forces

April 26, 2005

As the last forces in the final Syrian pullout from Lebanon left, Bekaa Valley residents danced, waved flags, raised banners and cried tears of brotherhood in celebration. Tuesday afternoon’s Masnaa border crossing marked the exit from Lebanon of the last Syrian Army remnants, leaving 29 years of occupation behind.

A morning military gathering at Bekaa’s air base in Riyaq bid farewell to remaining troops and intelligence officers. Attended by military attachés and dignitaries from several countries, including the United States, France and North Korea, medals were exchanged and both Lebanonese and Syrian military bands played anthems. In the largely symbolic ceremony, commander of the Lebanese Army Gen. Michel Suleiman said, "Brothers in arms, thank you for your sacrifices. Together we shall always remain brothers in arms in the face of the Israeli enemy."

The Lebanese government led by Bashar al-Assad needs to make quick political reforms to ensure the survival of his regime. The once-dominant pro-Syrian intelligence and security services are disappearing as the new government holds them accountable for past actions. The leadership vacuum must be filled.

Yesterday, the powerful head of the General Security service Jamil Sayyed, announced his resignation due to "changing political developments". Raymond Azar, the chief of Lebanese military intelligence, reportedly fled with his family to France.

A former CIA operative in Lebanon and the Middle East, Bob Baer said, “They [the Syrians] are going to lose day-to-day control over Lebanon, once they don't have the T-72 tanks and the military there to back up the intelligence units." according to UPI.

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Anthrax scare closes Michigan newspaper office

April 27, 2005

A Midland, Michigan, USA newspaper office was shut down briefly due a suspicious letter with white powder. When the envelope was opened at the Midland Daily News offices around 17:00 GMT Tuesday, the presence of powder aroused alarm the envelope might contain the deadly disease anthrax.

The news office, along with restaurants and businesses near the downtown newspaper were quarantined as a safety precaution shortly after authorities were alerted. On-site tests found no evidence of anthrax, and the letter has been sent to Lansing for additional tests.

Around 20:30 GMT, the office was reopened and all quarantines were lifted. A mail-sorting machine is being tested, and has been removed from the local post office for further tests.

The envelope did contain a return address, according to local news station WNEM-TV 5. The editor's office was closed Tuesday night, and sealed off as a crime scene.


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UAL jet diverts in bomb scare

April 26, 2005

66 passengers and the crew of a New York to San Francisco UAL flight got an unwanted stop in the "Windy City," Chicago, on Tuesday, following a bomb scare.

United Air Lines spokesman Jeff Green said a flight attendant was alerted by a passenger to another passenger's suspicious materials and wires. The crew decided to divert the flight to O’Hare, empty the plane, and allow the bomb squad to inspect for safety.

They discovered vials of herbal liquids, some wires, and an MP3 player. “Nothing detrimental,” according to Chicago police.

The passenger and music player were reunited, everybody re-boarded the aircraft, and with three hours lost, the flight took off for San Francisco.

Source

 * AP MP3 player, herbal remedies led to emergency landing Chicago Sun Times April 26, 2005

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In case anyone doesn't believe it, I am currently user:Variable on en.wikipedia. siafu (talk) 19:11, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

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Wikinews:2005/April/27

 * Air alarm at White House, Bush moved to safety
 * Boeing secures $11bn of aircraft deals
 * New Italian goverment gets confidence from the House
 * Lebanon government wins ‘vote of confidence’
 * Dorothy's dress from Wizard of Oz sells for £140,000
 * Bomb explosion kills two in Myanmar's second largest city
 * Dutch mayors support legalisation of cannabis
 * Children find human bones, develop interest in anatomy
 * World's largest passenger airliner makes first flight
 * Execution deadline for kidnapped journalists expires
 * Syria: Lebanon pullout is "full and complete", UN to verify
 * Anthrax scare closes Michigan newspaper office

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Syria: Lebanon pullout is "full and complete", UN to verify

April 27, 2005 Retreating soldiers, flashing victory signs, completed a withdrawal spurred by intense international pressure and massive Lebanese street protests against a Syrian occupation force that at one time reached 40,000. Masnaa residents of the Bekaa Valley region danced, waved flags, raised banners and cried tears of brotherhood in celebration as they witnessed the last troop convoys passing. The Tuesday afternoon border crossing marked the official exit from Lebanon of the last army remnants, leaving 29 years of occupation behind.

Syria's Ambassador to the U.N., Fayssal Mekhdad, spoke to the press claiming that the pullout was "full and complete."

"I have just submitted a letter to both the secretary-general and the president of the Security Council from his excellency Mr. Farouq al-Sharaa on behalf of the Syrian government confirming the Syrian full withdrawal from Lebanon in terms of withdrawing the troops, the security apparatus and the [intelligence] assets," Mekdad said.

The U.N., acting with uncertainty that withdrawal claims are true, will work to check them. A U.N. team sent for this purpose has already begun work in Damascus. A spokesman said the group would first gather material in the Syrian capital, then later leave for the Lebanese capital in Beirut.

U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, addressing the Security Countil in New York, expressed some doubts about the completeness of Syria's implementation of the council's decisions. "As of April 26, 2005, the requirements of Resolution 1559 have not yet been met," Annan said. "There has been no progress in the implementation of other provisions of the resolution," he added, stating that some member states had informed him that Syrian intelligence troops might be taking up new positions south of Beirut. Verifying the troop withdrawal will be fairly simple. The more difficult task will be identifying whether all intelligence assets are gone. These are not the uniformed groups, but members of the security services found at all levels of Lebanese society; in social, political and military echelons. The Lebanese government, led by Bashar al-Assad, will need to make quick political reforms if his regime is to survive. The once-dominant pro-Syrian intelligence and security services are disappearing as the new governing forces have demonstrated they hold them accountable for past actions. The leadership vacuum must be filled.

Yesterday, the powerful head of the General Security service Jamil Sayyed, announced his resignation due to "changing political developments". Raymond Azar, the chief of Lebanese military intelligence, reportedly fled with his family to France.

A former CIA operative in Lebanon and the Middle East, Bob Baer said, "[The Syrians] are going to lose day-to-day control over Lebanon, once they don't have the T-72 tanks and the military there to back up the intelligence units," according to UPI.

But the close relationship that comes with their national proximity to each other and their intertwined destinies is evident from their parting formalities and festivities.

A Tuesday morning joint Lebanese-Syrian military gathering at Bekaa's air base in Riyaq bid farewell to the nearly 500 remaining troops and intelligence officers. Attended by military attachés and dignitaries from several countries, including the United States, France and North Korea. Medals were exchanged and both Lebanese and Syrian military bands played anthems.

In the largely symbolic ceremony, commander of the Lebanese Army Gen. Michel Suleiman said, "Brothers in arms, thank you for your sacrifices. Together we shall always remain brothers in arms in the face of the Israeli enemy."


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Talk:German Minister for Foreign Affairs gives evidence about visa practice

Suboptimal name
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Talk:Syria: Lebanon pullout is "full and complete", UN to verify

Ah I had just started work on a similar story. I noticed an interesting source that you may want to review: Arab News. It states that Kofi Annan believes the Syrians have not completely withdrawn, despite their claim, and that some intelligence personnel remain in Lebanon and have merely taken up "new positions south of Beirut and elsewhere." Please consider this in writing the article, since it would be wrong to give the impression that withdrawal is final and complete merely because Syria says so.

Also, you may or may not be interested in reference to this particular article, but a second UN team was also dispatched to begin laying groundwork for investigating the assassination of Hariri. I can give sources if necessary. DouglasGreen 02:36, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:Wikipedia founder speaks at US law school/Notes

These are the notes that Pingswept took during the speech:

Crappy transcript: 6 self-described Wikipedians and 1 Wikinewsian 20 people have edited WP

German and English wikipedia RC running rcbirds

"Wikipedia and the Digital Divide"

"Flying without a net" did not prepare slides.

50 people

Freely licensed (4 freedoms of free software) "We adhere to that."

"We can't just do our work in a website."

And in their own language.

Everyone can get an encyclopedia in a langiage that they are comfortable reading.

5th largest Wikipedia? You'll never guess.

6 million speak Swedish. People in Sweden do speak a lot of English. It's a very wired country.

Chinese-- 25000 articles. "not so strong where we really need to be" "Hindi, Arabic."

"Over 20 languages now have 10,000 articles."

Over 50 languages have over 1000 articles.

"Economic wealth" "degree of penetration of internet" "the number of people who speak english"

Hindi: English keyboards. "Not used to typing Hindi" "I don't know how to help with that."

Question: "Can anyone start a new language?"

Artificial languages: "Next to go is going to be Klingon. The only reason it hasn't gone yet is that I am afraid of Klingons."

Bambara Wikipedia effort Kasper Souren in Mali with Geekcorps

$0.20 per article. "I'm actually a little skeptical of it."

The idea of paying academics to work on Wikipedia might be disruptive to the volunteer community.

Q: How much original vs. translated?

A small sample of the Hungarian Wikipedia was 20% translated, 80% original.

Q: how can we get the information to nonliterate people.

Sending illiterate people CDs "Might as well send them frisbees."

"We want to empower local entrepreneurs . . . to distribute Wikipedia content."

"There are a lot of people in the world who can't afford Britannica, but they can afford the printing. If we can provide the content for free . . ."

Q:Distribute in an audio searchable form?

Angela's report: cellphone penetration in Africa is high. They could call in and have a machine read to them over the phone.

Also, Wikibooks.

Q: "People call in and add new content?" "Gives new meaning to edit war-- people can call up and scream at each other."

Q: Why isn't the arabic wp working? An interesting case study. Very low publishing rate.

"OSI funded creation of a Russian language encyclopedia. . . . They hired a bunch of Russian academics to write" "They're interested now in the Arabic world."

They're thinking of how they can effectively spend money. Study: in the arabic world, there is not an encyclopedic tradition, but they do have biographies. Exception: Encycs for kids in Jordan.

Early seeding -- 1911 encyclopedia, CIA world fact book, Larry's text

Now the best way to seed it would be to start the English WP.

"Scholarships for students in exchange for articles written." "Maybe the way to finesse that would be to use that for seeding."

Q: Experts in field vs. populist? We just don't worry about it much.

Q: Talk of endowment? Catastrophic event?

"Really wonderful success with our fundraising."

"We are starting to get support from other types of institutions." Yahoo servers in Asia

Belnet, gov't ISP in Belgium

Kinesnet in Holland

Yahoo: "Few hundred thousand [dollars] of bandwidth is nothing to them"

"Red Cross for information, meaning large, international and independent . . ."

there is always the *possibility* of ads, but jwales is opposed.

"I wouldn't be where I am today if I weren't perversely and pathologically optimistic."

Q: Dave Brower how do you control Are there mechanisms to control for misinformation?

Q:Contact with the United Nations?

Dinner with Dutch Minister of Education.

"We have to mature into an organization that can interface with those organizations."

Event in Tunisia?

Editing Jimbo Wales user page? http://members.cox.net/huagen/test.html

Q: what about China?

More worried about Hindi.

"Maybe I could give a talk at Harvard at night and get a bunch of Harvard people excited about it."

Q:What is the utility of WP in 10 years to people in, eg Botswana?

People need their own local knowledge. Translated English wikipedia is not good enough. There has to be some localization.

"Just translating--I don't think that's really what people need."

"Something like the moon is fairly universal to all planets."

Q: Machine translation?

They suck.

"But now it's gotten exciting . . . but go ahead, go home . . . you're not going to offend me if you leave."

Q: what about China?

More worried about Hindi.

"Maybe I could give a talk at Harvard at night and get a bunch of Harvard people excited about it."

Q:What is the utility of WP in 10 years to people in, eg Botswana?

People need their own local knowledge. Translated English wikipedia is not good enough. There has to be some localization.

"Just translating--I don't think that's really what people need."

"Something like the moon is fairly universal to all planets."

Q: Machine translation?

They suck.

"But now it's gotten exciting . . . but go ahead, go home . . . you're not going to offend me if you leave."

Q:(j Tobacman) What motivates people to contribute? Widely reported to be addictive. It's fast, the rewards are inconsistent.

Early hype of the internet Then popups and porn spam

People sharing information.

"People are really captivated by the big-picture goal."

Explanation of rcbirds edit summary, user name or IP, flags on bottom, article, characters +/-

Q:Censorship?

Blocked twice by China. Once around the time of Tiananmen Square. One other time. Never any explanation.

CAn't necessarily vouch for it.

Chinese wikipedians went down to the ISP to get a form, and there was no form because no one had ever done it before.

Note about the notes: I actually paid 1 US$ per article that I deemed acceptable for the Bambara Wikipedia. Guaka (talk) 23:20, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


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Hi Brendan, (assuming this is you-- adding comments on RC feed, IP from Acton, MA)

Nice contributions. I'll add some more stuff tomorrow morning.

Thanks, and welcome to Wikinews!

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Talk:Wikipedia founder speaks at US law school

vandalism going on here? dont know how to fix it

 * Vandalism? Where is it? I haven't seen any. Pingswept 05:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Someone who works for a newspaper asked me about Jimmy's talk on Tuesday. I told him about it. He seems really interested in Wikipedia and its community. I told him about some other Wikimedia projects. Then I said his publication didn't have to cover the talk because Wikinews already did. --Anonymous 20:52, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Use of "US"
The headline makes it look like Harvard is just any US law school. I think the "Harvard" should be noted, as it is one of the most prestigious schools in the world, and almost unquestionably in the United States. TheCustomOfLife 03:14, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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Execution deadline for kidnapped journalists expires

April 27, 2005

Iraqi terrorists extended the ultimatum by calling Romanian Prima TV, the station where two of the kidnapped journalists worked. The news director of Prima TV Dan Dumitru, said he received a call from Iraq on late Tuesday, in which he spoke both to the kidnappers and the journalists. The kidnappers gave the government a further 24 hours to withdraw their troops, while the kidnapped journalists told Dumitru to put pressure on the Romanian government for the withdrawal of the troops. The three made a "final appeal" to the Romanian president, Traian Băsescu, to withdraw the troops, saying that the time of their killing was set on Wednesday, at 14:00 UTC.

The Islamic terrorists which kidnapped three Romanian journalists last month extended the deadline for their execution from Tuesday to today. In a tape aired on Al-Jazeera last Friday, the terrorists, who call themselves the Muadh ibn Jabal Brigades, gave the Romanian government until Tuesday, at 14:00 UTC, to withdraw their 860 troops from Iraq, or otherwise the journalists would be killed. On Monday, the Romanian Prime Minister, Călin Popescu-Tăriceanu, said that his country would not yield to terrorist demands, and it appears that this has caused the extension of the ultimatum by a day.

Yesterday, Bucharest and other Romanian cities were filled by ralliers asking for the release of the troops, holding up banners saying "Freedom" in English, Romanian and Arabic. Also, the mother of Sorin Miscoci, one of the hostages said, "This is the hardest day, we are thinking that their hours are numbered. We trust the authorities until the end." Vasile Ion, the father of Marie-Jeanne Ion, another hostage, said, "We call for the urgent withdrawal of the Romanian contingent from Iraq, before it is too late for our children. The kidnappers have made a political threat and they are waiting for a political response."

Commentators from Prima TV observed that, on the tape shown by the terrorists, one of the journalists, Sorin Miscoci, was wearing orange overalls. The commentators described this as culoarea morţii ("the colour of death"), since Iraqi terrorists had previously dressed hostages in orange, as an attempt to show that their threats were serious.

The Romanian government has not made any official comment after the extension of the deadline. In its last official statement, it said that it would not withdraw the troops. A Romanian pullout would be seen as a significant blow to the US-led Coalition of the Willing, since Romania currently has one of the largest contingents in Iraq.


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Wikinews talk:Original reporting contest May 2005

Question about the rules
How about if I get some friends and send them into some local campaign meetings to heckle the speakers, so I can file a story with "original reporting" containing quotes from the outraged party officials?

I recently submitted a story, BBC admits sending hecklers into Conservative campaign meeting, which described the BBC using such tactics to make some news. I was surprised that this article was attacked as POV and that it was considered quite reasonable for the BBC to employ such tactics to create a news story.

I would have thought this was an important line in the sand contributors to Wikinews cannot cross, but perhaps I am being overly conservative on this point? I am only assuming that making your own news is not acceptable. Is this really OK?

I don't see that anyone other than the Conservative party in the UK is finding fault with the BBC for using such tactics, so perhaps I need to be more open to such aggressive reporting tactics?

Cheers,

— DV 06:35, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I think this begs a whole discussion on news reporters trying to "make" news. I generally am against outrageous cases of this (i.e. setting a building on fire to report on the fire, as one enterprising reporter in the US did a while ago), but new methods of pressing government officials to respond are probably acceptable. For example, Michael Moore employs similar tactics often — but he gets results, and his results are very frequently poignant and insightful. His documentaries aren't NPOV, but the quotes are real. -- IlyaHaykinson 08:26, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the encouraging guidance, Ilya. If you say it's OK that's good enough for me. — DV 11:52, 2 May 2005 (UTC)


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World's largest passenger airliner makes first flight

April 27, 2005

The world's largest passenger aircraft, the Airbus A380, has made its maiden flight after lifting off from Toulouse in France.

The take-off, at 08:30 UTC, was apparently normal and took place exactly on time. The aircraft flew into clear blue skies with a flight crew of six (all wearing parachutes as a safety precaution) and twenty tonnes of test equipment on board.

Around 50,000 people watched the maiden flight, many sitting on grass banks lining the runway. More people watched the flight on a giant screen erected in the centre of Toulouse.

The test flight lasted four hours, with the aircraft flying no higher than 10,000 nor further than 100 miles from Toulouse as it circled the Bay of Biscay.

The A380, known for many years during its development phase as the Airbus A3XX, will be the largest airliner in the world by a substantial margin when it enters service.

The first A380 prototype was unveiled during a lavish ceremony in Toulouse, France, on January 18, 2005. Its manufacturer's serial number is 001, and it is registered F-WWOW.

The new Airbus will initially be sold in two versions: the A380-800, a full double-decker configuration, able to carry 555 passengers in a three-class configuration or up to 800 passengers in a single-class economy configuration. Range for the A380-800 model is expected to be 8,000 nautical miles (14,800 km). The second model, the A380-800F dedicated freighter, will carry 150 tons of cargo 5,600 miles (10,400 km).

The cost of the project so far is £8.4bn, £1bn over budget. 144 planes have already been ordered. Singapore Airlines, which will be the first company to operate the new air giant, in July 2006, have opened a reservation site for this first regular flight.


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This article has been ridiculed in the press Rob Harris, "Media: Dispatches: Online journalism: News of the world wide web",The Guardian, May 2.
 * Excerpt:"And, before we take Wikinews too seriously, take this example of "original" reporting on the site last week: 'I watched the take-off live on BBC News 24. Not a whole lot to say.'"

Original notes
I watched the take-off live on BBC News 24. Not a whole lot to say - 9.30 my time (BST), big white aircraft rolls down runway and takes off! Beautiful to watch. Dan100 (Talk) 08:45, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I just put some more info in, that was stated on-air by the BBC's on-hand expert, who was from Jane's International. Dan100 (Talk) 10:12, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This is not a critic, just a doubt
I have some doubt about the translation of Airbus cust: £8.4bn = 8.4 billion of English pounds and £1bn = 1 billion of English pounds. Is this ok?
 * Yep. Obviously this reply is way too late, it's just for completeness... Dan100 (Talk) 21:52, 3 May 2005 (UTC)


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Children find human bones, develop interest in anatomy

April 27, 2005 Teachers at the elementary school of Reduzum in Friesland, the Netherlands were surprised at what their pupils turned up with yesterday. The children had found some human bones in a large pile of landfill, originating from the Oudehove cemetery in the Frisian capital city of Leeuwarden, which is being turned into an underground parking garage.

Officials have spoken with the contractor, Strukton, which was responsible for moving the soil to a site near the bridge across the Swin, near Reduzum. The bones will be moved with the rest of the cemetery to a new site north of Leeuwarden.

The school principal reported that the children were hardly shocked when they found what they had discovered, and that they were more interested to learn about human anatomy. A biology lesson ensued.


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User talk:210.55.230.19

Welcome
210.55.230.19, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! Dan100 (Talk) 10:58, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called KittySaturn. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name KittySaturn~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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User talk:12.64.126.144

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CIA gives up search and interrogation on Iraq WMDs

April 28, 2005

The United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) says it finished interrogating the nearly 105 Iraqi scientists it held in its search for weapons of mass destruction (WMD). In many cases their information was helpful, but in other cases the wrong people were detained, and were subjected to questioning by "inexperienced and uninformed" interrogators.

From an update to the Comprehensive Report of the Special Adviser to the DCI on Iraq's WMD, "As matters now stand, the WMD investigation has gone as far as feasible. After more than 18 months, the WMD investigation and debriefing of the WMD-related detainees has been exhausted.

"As far as the WMD investigation is concerned, there is no further purpose in holding many of these detainees. These individuals have shown no reluctance to engage in further discussions should the need for questioning arise about past WMD programs."

Elsewhere, "Some may have other issues to account for, including Regime finance questions, but certainly some have been quite helpful toward the compilation of an accurate picture of the Regime's WMD efforts and intentions over the last three decades."

The comments were addenda and an accompanying note, supplemental to the original report, which was issued last autumn, and seen as the final report of the Iraq Survey Group (ISG). They were added by Charles Duelfer, head of the ISG, and Special Adviser to the Director of Central Intelligence in Baghdad.

Deulfer emphasised that more information is likely to emerge naturally, over time, from people with differing viewpoints and interests. And a backlog of documents recovered from the former regime remain to be examined.

He described the ISG investigation as hampered by:
 * The security situation
 * The quality of identification, detention, and interview of those involved in the Iraqi WMD effort
 * Other internal procedural weaknesses
 * Constant personnel rotations.

A preference for reinforcement of short-term security on the part of the coalition forces over anti-proliferation efforts, fear of arrest and detention on the part of the Iraqi personnel, and other factors in the continuing conflict of the post-war environment, all impacted on the effort by the ISG.

The report confirms the expressed opinion of former UN weapons inspector, Scott Ritter, that Iraq had no significant WMDs. "[T]here was not a single intelligence service in the world that said Iraq maintained massive stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction," Ritter said at the time.

Duelfer summary of the intelligence obtained, as understood by the ISG, includes, "[T]he risk of Iraqi WMD expertise of material advancing the WMD potential in other countries is attenuated by many factors and is presently small ..."

And, "So far, insurgent efforts to attain unconventional weapons have been limited and contained by coalition actions."

Also, "There continue to be reports of WMD in Iraq. ISG has found that such reports are usually scams or in misidentification of materials or activities. In a very limited number of cases they have related to old chemical munitions produced before 1990."

The new addenda included information on the Iraqi Military Industrial Commission, the "state-run military-industrial complex" which played a "central role in the evolution of all the Regime's weapons programs".


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Dutch mayors support legalisation of cannabis

April 28, 2005

Dutch Minister Alexander Pechtold's radical suggestion to legalise cannabis in the Netherlands has been supported by the mayors of 20 out of 30 of the largest Dutch cities, including the mayors of Leeuwarden, Utrecht, Lelystad, Deventer, and Tilburg, according to an investigation by the Dutch newspaper Trouw. Pechtold promoted the legalisation of cannabis throughout Europe earlier this week. Pechtold's plans are opposed by Justice Minister Piet Hein Donner however, who is advocating a tougher policy against cannabis.

The possession, consumption, and selling of cannabis, claimed by some to be less harmful and less addictive than tobacco, though not strictly legal, has been tolerated in the Netherlands for a number of years. The cultivation of cannabis, however, still poses a problem to most cities. Utrecht Mayor Annie Brouwer noted fire risks, tensions with residential areas and the illegal tapping of electricity as reasons to get cannabis cultivation to the surface, so that it can be regulated. The mayors also argued that a successful test could show Europe the benefits of legalising cannabis.

A discussion on Dutch soft drug policy is to be held later today.


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Hunter Tylo to rejoin the cast of "Bold and Beautiful"

April 28, 2005

Actress Hunter Tylo is reported to have rejoined the cast of The Bold and the Beautiful, in the latest chapter of a rocky relationship between Tylo and the casting office. The news was first broken by entertainment magazine Soap Opera Weekly.

Tylo played the role of Dr. Taylor Hamilton Forrester from 1990 until 2002, when she was killed off by villainess Sheila Carter, played by Kimberlin Brown. Taylor's love affair with Ridge Forrester (played by Ronn Moss), and the ensuing triangle with Brooke Logan (played by Katherine Kelly Lang), helped the then-fledgling soap move higher in the ratings in the early to mid-1990s. According to Soap Opera Weekly, history has been rewritten so that Taylor, in reality, did not die from her gunshot wounds back in October 2002. Her return is tied in with a 1994 storyline in which Taylor was held captive by Moroccan prince Omar (played by Indian actor Kabir Bedi). Both Tylo and Bedi are first seen on Monday, May 2.

The magazine states that she has been on the set of the soap opera at CBS Television City since March 11. For a while, she didn't even tell her husband, former Guiding Light actor Michael Tylo, where she was really going. She told him that she was just going on "a lot of auditions," and that if she told sooner than she did, the news might slip out accidentally. Her husband currently teaches a class at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas and she couldn't afford any accidental hints that his students could have picked up on.

This is not the first time Tylo has rejoined the series. She left in highly publicized disputes most recently in 2000 and 2001, due to a lack of story for her character. Her most publicized departure, however, was in 1996; Tylo was scheduled to join the cast of Melrose Place and was fired when  Melrose 's producer Aaron Spelling found out she was pregnant. She took him to court and won after nearly a year of messy legal battles. All three times she was allowed to return to the show more or less without comment.

With more than 300 million viewers in nearly 100 countries, The Bold and the Beautiful is claimed to be the most-watched television series in the world.

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