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New logo?
Here are some examples of a new logos (Note: Feel free to edit these or make more based on these ideas. These are just examples and nothing more:

First Logo
I am trying to make one with a 'real' earth in the background. First logo design on the top right.DragonFire1024 07:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Second Logo
Here is my second logo on the left. I like this one a lot. After fiddling with the program a bit, which i have to say is for people who know what they are doing (in my case I am totally lost and am learning as I go.) It has some good features...but is difficult to operate. DragonFire1024 09:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Best out of all the ones you made, but personally I think we should stick with the site logo, or a slight modification of that logo, to keep it consistant. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:52, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Third Logo

Here is my third Wikinews Logo. It is the best image of earth I can find...there are more...help me by looking for some :)Lower right. This one is pretty cool. Feel free to edit it. DragonFire1024 12:46, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Fourth logo
This is the Fourth logo on the bottom left. I am running out of Ideas ;) not really. I like this one though...accurate in a sense. The text is hard to do...if you can better the text, by all means. I do need more images, better ones of Earth if I am going to accomplish my goal of a new logo with a real earth. DragonFire1024 15:15, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Logo
Here is my logo for Wikinews Video. I used alot of elements from the main wikinews logo, as it is well recognised amoungst the internet. I also tried to add a bit of consistancy. Stickeylabel 05:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I like this logo better than the other ones. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  19:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree.  Thunderhead  ►  19:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Animation
I've done some basic animaiton - it is currently uploading. Check back here in a few minutes --Symode09 07:45, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Anumated bar done The bar isn't too impressive. I have three outions which can all be viewed here

The colors can be changed. I just wanted to know the rough type of animation to follow. I personally like option 2. --Symode09 07:59, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I've always liked the "sky" theme for news. Sky news has the same theme - it is really kool. I think this sun and sky theme would be really kool (in the opener, I deliberately made a point of that because I liked that theme... I couldn't find any footage that was free! --Symode09 08:16, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

The Email Address
Who currently has access to this email address? What emails are meant to be sent there?  Thunderhead  ►  08:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See . All e-mails should and will be sent VIA Wikinews-I.

Graphics
I've done part 2... watch the whole thing, there are two scenes. video up in a minute --Symode09 08:43, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Graphics Part 2 DONE Part 2 (20 seconds long) is located here --Symode09 08:46, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

THERE IS A PROBLEM.... TO BE FIXED BY TOMORROW :'(
 * sorry, I have uploaded the files and they are working but, the video goes for a minute or so..... :take a look anyway right.... here --Symode09 08:55, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Would it be possible to try other colours? The same effect, but not as if it's a sun. Maybe 80c 30m 20y 0k on top of 100c 75m 0y 0k? --  Zanimum 16:14, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanx, I'm a bit disappointed but, I left a comment saying "it won't be long" last night and, I kept on being interrupted so, I felt guilty so I just rushed it and did what I could, I'll continue working on something... your graphics are good... which program are you using? --Symode09 09:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * This one. Its called GIMP and Its cool...but hard to use IMO....DragonFire1024 09:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Check this: Broadcast for this: TV Pilot. DragonFire1024 19:29, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * BTW Just an idea...not for necessary use. DragonFire1024 19:40, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Music
I've got permission to upload parts of the music here to commons under a CC-BY license (do they allow that?), I'm getting the hang of audacity, removing noise and editing out snippets, so if there's any bits and pieces you'd like clipped from the songs I can do it for you. I may get other stuff that we can use too. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See: April 10, 2007.
 * We have added a new theme song to the video (updated version on the right). I want to thank brianmc for his hard work in getting this music and a variety of tracks we can put some theme music together from now and in the future. DragonFire1024 14:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Credit for the music goes to The Dynamos, this was from a week-long session that resulted in a CD I have the master of ending March 2, 1997. The music was recorded in Hart Street Studios, Edinburgh and the credits are as follows:
 * *Ciaran Bradley: Bass guitar.
 * *William Cambell: Backing/lead guitar.
 * *Andy Dunnigan: Lead/backing guitar.
 * ''*Gordon Findlay: Drums/percussion.

 * *Engineer: Roy Aitken
 * *Produced by: The Dynamos, Roy Aitken, Brian McNeil.

--Brian McNeil / talk 14:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Time Machine
I've set up a time machine so, we know a rough outline of targets. I have not added anything... when should we aim to finish the graphics/complete our pilot?
 * Well thats a good question...A) we need at least somewhat of a hot topic....I think the grapics can come along good...and music seems to be at hand. I am not sure...maybe a month or so, maybe less??? DragonFire1024 09:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We're going to have do answer and set a date for each of the questions on the time machine page --Symode09 09:52, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Mailings
We should send update on the wikinews mailing list. I will send the initial one about the project. DragonFire1024 10:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Great Idea! --Symode09 10:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, can we start discussing the questions on the time machine]? thanx --[[User:Symode09|Symode09 10:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Theme Song
I have rustled up a (very) quick demo/test intro music sample from the track Brian suggested and some one talking in an audio brief. It is available here (play in browser)or on commons as .ogg here--Mark Talk 13:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I like it a lot :) but eventually, the voice at the end would have to be changed to whatever we decide to name the broadcast. DragonFire1024 14:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yup, this was just a really quick demo to show where/when the person would talk. It will be easy to edit it out for the real version.--Mark Talk 14:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Kool! I'll add it to the video and see how it goes. Have a look on the blog page in 10 mins
 * I have many idfferent versions of this track. Theres the one above, the one with no man talking but still fading and the one with the track at whole volume, however on the one above is hosted.  If you would like any other versions then contact me and i will email them to you. --Mark Talk 14:14, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Updated video
Done! The is on the blog (it is the first video) --Symode09 15:39, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Site Access
Will we get access to this site to update it?? DragonFire1024 14:10, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * That, and why do we need a seperate site? Can't we upload the videos directly to Wikinews/Commons, or to Youtube/Google Video and use the embedding features to get them to show up on the site? --  Zanimum 16:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hm well i know there is a code for embeding youtube vids but not sure if it works on foundation wikis. Certainly works on wikia but will have a dig round to see if it works.--Mark Talk 16:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Nope the code isnt enabled on foundation yet. Dont know if they plan to or not.--Mark Talk 16:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I am happy to change the password and give it to the users working on the project but if I give the user/password out, how will we contrill who has access to the account? --Symode09 16:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Trust me, the features in the soapbox are way better. People (in general) don't want to have to get ogg codecs, install them, get them working and all that sork of thing whenever they want the news. People want video on demand (VOD) which is whay places like youtube are so popular. --Symode09 16:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Also the Video Wikinews/2.0/Read in regard to the grants...if we apply, are that we use on demand video or streaming. Symode...my e-mail is on my user page if you want to send me the PW...I want to put some images upof Wikinews. DragonFire1024 16:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC)DragonFire1024 16:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We should probably have it on multiple places. An official version (in the horrid ogg theora, which can now be played in browser by the way) on commons, and then also on youtube/google video/whatever MS calls thier thing, etc. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. I have it on my MySpace Profile. Lets do it. DragonFire1024 20:12, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

60 Minutes
For those of you who don't get real news (ie. those of you who have access to fox news *cough USA*) 60 minutes is the best news show in Australia. You can see one of their stories |here. Even though this isn't one of their best stories, it still gives you an idea of what the show is like. If we create one show with one article like this a week, I would be over the moon. --Symode09 16:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Me 2 :) DragonFire1024 16:45, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Yup nice dig at me and my small little island. Very funny (to be fair i would rip it out of you too though ;-) But yeah if we could get something like that then i would also be impressed. --Mark Talk 16:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Then It's settled, I'm better then alll of you! :P --Symode09 01:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Attack of the Show
Perhaps Wikimedia could sponsor an all-inclusive programming block a la Attack of the Show. Wikinews wouldn't nessesarily need a "full show", but perhaps a segment evenly divided in to the Foundation's block. For example, Wikipedia editors could host a Wikipedia segment, Wikiversity instructors could teach for a segment, and Wikinews could distribute the news for a segment. I honestly think that a full show is more appropriate, I'm just throwing this idea out.  Thunderhead  ►  17:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I think that's a great idea [in the future, once we have content], I have no idea how much paid programming costs, but if the magical chopping knife can afford an hour, I'm sure the foundation could. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:08, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * No, no they can't. They have enough to keep the Foundation sites up for the next year, little more. --  Zanimum 21:03, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See: Video Wikinews/2.0/Read for possible grants. DragonFire1024 21:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Commons
We really should upload the second video to commons. At least for easy Wiki-wide access. DragonFire1024 01:06, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know (yet)... the stock footage I used etc. Is tnot attributed yet. I personally don't care about the copyight etc. but, others will complain.... I will for the next version if all fottage attributors give it the "okay"
 * --Symode09 01:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thats where you upload to commons under the CC by 3.0? so that YOU have to be attributed. DragonFire1024 01:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not that, I don't own the images or have their rights (yet) --Symode09 01:35, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Where did you get them from? Why not make a video up from images on commons? DragonFire1024 01:36, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Commons images to possibly use for most or all of the Wikinews's:
 * Statue of liberty

 * Frankfurt Germany at night

 * The Colosseum for Italy

 * Poland

 * Portugal

Here is a list of all the Wikinews's: Wikinews on Meta. DragonFire1024 01:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll take a look :) --Symode09 02:11, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We really do need something uploaded there though...I have all the top Wikinews's sites until China for still Image intros or what not and added the city names and regions to them (on the images). I will Upload them sometime soon. Maybe use those for a video on commons? (BTW all the images i used came from commons.) DragonFire1024 07:48, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

and then more graphics came!
aa you know, some of the graphics I have put together are here. Whuch one is your preferred ( I can change the colours etc.) but, I need a rough indication of which designs (if any) do you like. I like option 2 but, am happy to go back to the drawing board.
 * I like the colors of Blues...but the lettering should be black IMO. DragonFire1024 01:38, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Also see: Example DragonFire1024 02:25, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

then the motto came
What should the motto be? Possibilities --Symode09 01:40, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikinews; for those of you who think FOX is run by hippies
 * Your Idea Here

Wikinews: Be Neutral DragonFire1024 02:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

We report, you listen --Symode09 02:10, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Call me a downer
It is inspiring to see the energy thrown into this project. I hope it succeeds. However, since we couldn't even keep Audio Wikinews alive, how can we expect to get Video Wikinews going? We are struggling to keep the content on Wikinews itself fresh. In its present state, no "normal" person would go to Wikinews to find out what's happening in the world. They'd be even more disappointed if they came here to find out what is happening in their 'neck of the woods'. I don't think we should kid ourselves, Wikinews Video is not what is going to make Wikinews 'break through'. First we need to get comprehensive coverage of what is going on in the world (as in covered by MSM), then Wikinews' own reporting (as in exclusive OR), and finally we can cap it off with multi-media and take over the world.

I think we need a bottom-to-top approach, where as this video stuff is a top-to-bottom way to go. What is going to be the content of these video reports? Build from the bottom. Call me a downer, but I still think I'm a realist --SVTCobra 02:13, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I can understand what you mean, (I've thought that as well) which is why we descided to use a 60minutes (the show, not length) formaat where undtill there is great enough interest, we have one story per week which can be covered in great detail once a weeek. Later on, we can develop this more.

Don't forget, it takes time for things to take off! --Symode09 02:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That's why I have been working on Wikinews as long as I have. Sometimes it gets pretty lonely, trying to provide content for the front page. --SVTCobra 02:28, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Graphics 3.0
I present, graphics 3.0. It is 3 megabytes in size but, will give you a laugh! --Symode09 02:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * NICE!! :) DragonFire1024 08:05, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


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Check out my wikipedia user page instead!

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Nice to see you found your way over here! :) —Zachary talk 03:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Terrorist attacks in Algiers, Algeria kill 23 people and wound 162

I am tired of this stuff making first lead, can we please make this second lead? All this killing, its making me sick that we even publish this as a leading article Instead give the NASA plant finding first lead spot (:O) -Nima Baghaei talk · cont 04:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


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Can we please make this first lead? I am tired of all this other articles that are about death making first lead, it is complete nonsense really (:O) -Nima Baghaei talk · cont 04:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  23:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

pic
how is the picture relevant?--87.65.194.11 07:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * use your imagination *wink* hehe (:OP ... but the picture should speak for itself if you can catch my drift on this one haha ... NASA has denied the truth from day one and why? its called the Brookings Report ... but we dont need to follow their silly old rules now do we haha! i have seen enough UFOs and extraterrestrials in my life to know that the government and NASA is full of it if you catch my drift again (:O) -Nima Baghaei talk · cont · email 14:16, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

remove the pic, get an artist's impression or something; there's one on the alternate biochemistry page that'll do. conspiracy theories, even if true, are not a very good excuse. i would myself but my wikipedia account doesn't seem to work here and i cbf
 * Impressive image :) I have one also, but not that good of quality. It is cleary bushes or something...clearly. DragonFire1024 07:49, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


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NHL: Sharks defeat Predators, take 1-0 lead in series

April 11, 2007

''Sharks lead series 1-0. (Best of Seven)''

Game Recap
The San Jose Sharks defeated the Nashville Predators Wednesday night, taking a 1-0 series lead in the 2007 NHL Playoffs. It was the Sharks second victory over the Predators this season in five meetings between the two teams. It was a tough defeat for the Predators to swallow, giving up the deciding goal with 8:14 left in the second overtime.

After the Sharks took a 4-2 lead in the middle of the second period, Alexander Radulov scored his second goal of the game in the third period with 7:55 remaining in regulation. With about a minute to go, and a one goal lead, the Sharks' Patrick Rissmiller gave up the puck twice leading to a J.P. Dumont goal. Dumont's second goal of the game came with :51 remaining in regulation to knot it up at four goals apiece.

Neither team managed to score in the first overtime, although the Nashville Predators dominated with a noticeably large number of shots. The Predators continued to pile on the shots at the Sharks' Evgeni Nabokov in the second overtime period. The final score came from Patrick Rissmiller, who buried one behind Tomas Vokoun, forgiving his missteps which led to the late Nashville goal. The goal lifted the Sharks to the 5-4 victory and a 1-0 series lead.

Evgeni Nabokov picked up the win for the Sharks, stopping 39 of 43 shots faced, allowing four goals while Nashville's Tomas Vokoun stopped 33 of 38 faced shots, and was saddled with the loss.

The Sharks have now won five straight playoff games against the Predators, dating back to their Western Conference Quarterfinal series in the 2006 Stanley Cup Playoffs. This was also the Sharks' first overtime victory in the playoffs since beating St. Louis in the first round of the 2000 Stanley Cup Playoffs.

The series is just getting started, and the Sharks will face the Predators again on Friday at 8:00 PM (CDT), when Nashville will try to even the best of seven series at home in Nashville Arena before the teams head to HP Pavilion in San Jose, Calif.

Three Stars of the Game

 * #1 = Patrick Rissmiller, C, San Jose Sharks - Game-winning goal, 1 Assist
 * #2 = Alexander Radulov, RW, ''Nashville Predators- 2 Goals
 * #3 = J.P. Dumont, RW, Nashville Predators - 2 Goals


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User talk:Kerensa jo~enwikinews

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User talk:Pattie2

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User talk:Shameerpuri~enwikinews

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User talk:OBResources

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User talk:Belarus~enwikinews

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User talk:WTGDMan1986

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User talk:Amywj~enwikinews

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User talk:Bbussal

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NHL: Vancouver comes out on top after four overtimes

April 11, 2007

''Canucks lead series 1-0. (Best of Seven)''

The Vancouver Canucks came out on top after the sixth longest game in NHL Playoff history. The final goal came after a scoring opportunity that was able to find the back of the net, finally, after Dallas Stars goaltender Marty Turco kept the net empty for over 90 minutes. Henrik Sedin connected on a pass from brother, Daniel Sedin, which unleashed a celebration from the remaining crowd at General Motors Place in Vancouver.

Vancouver's goalie, Roberto Luongo had a very successful performance as he stopped a total of 72 shots to keep the Canucks in the game for as long as it lasted. On the other hand, the Stars' Turco performed fairly well, fending off 48 shots, but will likely fall to criticism as he has been unable, at least in previous seasons, to continue his all star season performances with playoff success.

The game was the longest ever in Vancouver Canucks' history.

Vancouver looks to extend its 1-0 series lead over the Dallas Stars after the first game as they continue the series in Vancouver on Friday at 6:00pm (PDT). Vancouver eventually won the series 4-3.

Three Stars of the Game

 * #1 = Roberto Luongo, G, "Vancouver Canucks" - 1.74 GAA, 72 saves
 * #2 = Henrik Sedin, C, "Vancouver Canucks" - Game-winning goal, 1 Assist
 * #3 = Sergei Zubov, D, "Dallas Stars" - 1 Assist


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UN genocide exhibit removed and put on hold after Turkey objects

April 12, 2007

A United Nations exhibition, entitled "Lessons from Rwanda", about the 1994 Rwanda genocide, has been dismantled and postponed because Turkey raised objections to the Armenian genocide being mentioned.

The Armenian genocide was carried out by the so called Special Organization of the Young Turks, who specially elected criminals from Turkish prisons to act as escorts in the deportation of Armenians. The Armenian genocide is the second most studied case of genocide after the Holocaust Hitler himself occasionally referred to the extermination of the Armenians, or the lack of prosecution there of, in support for his plan to exterminate the Jews.

However, the Republic of Turkey has long disputed that the event constituted genocide, claiming rather that the Armenian deaths were a result of inter-ethnic strife, disease and famine during the turmoil of World War I.

The exhibit was set up in the visitors lobby on Thursday and was due to be opened on Monday by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon. "Lessons from Rwanda" was created by Aegis Trust, an anti-genocide NGO, and approved by the U.N. Department of Public Information. The Holocaust, Cambodia, Bosnia, East Timor and Sudan were mentioned as examples of genocide. But it also included a section entitled “What is genocide?” which read:

Following World War One, during which 1 million Armenians were murdered in Turkey, Polish lawyer Raphael Lemkin urged the League of Nations to recognize crimes of barbarity as international crimes.

On Saturday, James Smith, the chief executive of Aegis, was told by the UN to remove the sentence. Aegis would not submit to the Secretary General’s request. Smith explains, "Had we been asked to remove reference of atrocities to Jews because Germany objected, we would have been equally resistant."

The suggestion by Armen Martirosyan, the Armenian ambassador to the UN, to remove the words "in Turkey" were also not acceptable. Baki Ilkin, the Turkish ambassador to the UN, said that Turkey expressed "discomfort over the text's making references to the Armenian issue and drawing parallels with the genocide in Rwanda."

On Monday, the panels in the visitor's lobby had been turned around to prevent it being seen by the public. Farhan Haq, U.N. associate spokesman, said that the review process which takes into account "all positions" had not been followed and that "the exhibition has been postponed until the regular review process is completed." Manoel de Almeida e Silva, an official in the strategic communications division, said the exhibit would take place. "We are committed to it. It is a very important issue."


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User talk:89.41.67.8

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Author Kurt Vonnegut dead at 84

April 12, 2007

American author Kurt Vonnegut, Jr., best known for works blending satire, black comedy, and science fiction, has died at age 84. After a fall in his Manhattan, New York home, he suffered brain injuries and died on Wednesday from complications related to those injuries.

Some of Vonnegut's most famous works include Slaughterhouse-Five (1969), Cat's Cradle (1963), and Breakfast of Champions (1973). He achieved cult-like status among American college students in the 1960s and 70s.

External link

 * Official Website of Kurt Vonnegut, accessed on April 12, 2007.

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Wikinews:Video 2.0/Newsreader

Are you interested in reading the news for Wikinews: Video Edition?

Simply write your, username, gender, and whether you have access to a green screen (you don't have to) and any other useful information (such as any other experience), as well as a recent photograph, and we'll contact you soon. Remember, you can apply without previously having to enlist in the project.

Please follow the simple guide when applying. An example is below.

Username: User:___ Gender: Male/Female Green Screen: Yes/No Photograph: Image:_____ Experience: Short description of experience if applicable.

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Username: User:seanmcgowan Gender: Male Photograph: Am very handsome, don't worry. :) Experience: None. But I am a novelist, an avid student of history and especially the Middle East, I have a great digital camera with very high quality video capabilities, a 2-gig SIM card, the fastest MacBook Pro on the planet, I speak four languages, am on my own traveling the world with enough of a budget to finance myself, and am presently in Lebanon forty miles south of tank fire.  I was five miles from the car bomb in Beirut this morning.  I would like to contribute some multimedia (I am very computer literate but only have the standard Mac software like iMovie, etc ... which I think should be sufficient) to this project.  I don't know where to begin.  Anyone with any info or help, please contact me directly as I may not be able to check back here and don't really know the in's and out's of this whole Video2.0 thing at all.  spandm@gmail.com ... thanks!  I hope I can help.

Username: User:DragonFire1024 Gender: Male Green Screen: No Photograph: Image:Me1.jpg Experience: ''Been writing Wikinews articles for over 1 year. Have published close to 1000 articles...I think. Did a small news cast in elementary school...Still trying to hunt that video down.''

Username: User:jmartin678 Gender: Male Green Screen: No, not yet Photograph: Image:jamesmartin.jpg Experience: 'Even though I am only 18 years old, I have attended the Grimsby Institute of Higher Education in the UK, studying broadcast journalism and media studies. I have also done a course with the London School of Journalism - and have appeared on many local and national television broadcasts in the UK - and I have also appeared on many websites - reporting on news stories. I have filmed, presented, edited and produced many news videos - all using proffessional video editing software such as Apple's Final Cut Studio 2 and Adobe Premiere. My work has also been recognised by some of the big international broadcasters. I can provide links to YouTube and my personal website to show you my work.

Username: User:LostProphyt Gender: Male Green Screen: No, But Can Be Arranged Photograph: Image:LostProphyt.JPG Experience: Total media geek. Graduated Art Institute of Pittsburgh 1999, major in Multimedia. Video/Audio production skills, as well as copy writing and editing. Have been told I have a "radio voice." I'm new to WikiNews for this reason alone, but hope to make contributions where I can in the future. I've been active on Wikipedia for around a year. Have access to multiple media tools, including cameras (still and video) and editing software.

Username: User:bigmacd24 Gender: Male Green Screen: No Photograph: Image:bigmacd24.jpg Experience: ''Enthusiastic Poli. Sci. Student from University of Waterloo, (Canada), access to high quality camera, speak Canadian English, theater experience from youth as well as amateur theater on campus... I also speak poor French, well enough to interview, not well enough to read the news''

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Comments:Plants on other planets may not be green

Announcements from astrobiologists are not 'news,': correct me if I'm wrong, but astrobiology is a theorecial science. There could just as easily be an announcement that "life forms on other planets could be little floating blobs." Anyway, there are some plants on earth that are red or yellow, this isn't really earth shattering, is it?

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2007 Cricket World Cup: New Zealand vs Sri Lanka

April 12, 2007

Sri Lanka beat New Zealand in the Super 8 phase of the World Cup at the Cricket National Stadium, St. George's, Grenada.

Victory for New Zealand would have assured them of a semi final place, instead it leaves Sri Lanka tied for first place in the Super 8 table with New Zealand and Australia, but third on net run rate.

Toss: New Zealand won, and elected to bat first.

Fall of wickets: 1-1 (Fleming, 0.5 ov), 2-4 (Taylor, 2.1 ov), 3-71 (Fulton, 19.5 ov), 4-77 (McMillan, 22.2 ov), 5-141 (Oram, 37.3 ov), 6-145 (McCullum, 38.2 ov), 7-155 (Vettori, 40.5 ov)

Did not bat: Shane Bond, Mark Gillespie

Fall of wickets: 1-30 (Tharanga, 4.4 ov), 2-130 (Jayasuriya, 25.3 ov), 3-152 (Jayawardene, 30.4 ov), 4-180 (de Silva, 37.5 ov)

Did not bat: Dilhara Fernando, Russel Arnold, Chaminda Vaas, Farveez Maharoof, Muttiah Muralitharan

New Zealand: P G Fulton, S P Fleming (capt), R L Taylor, S B Styris, J D P Oram, C D McMillan, B B McCullum (wkt), D L Vettori, J E C Franklin, S E Bond, M R Gillespie Sri Lanka: W U Tharanga, S T Jayasuriya, K C Sangakkara (wkt), D P M D Jayawardene (capt), L P C Silva, T M Dilshan, C R D Fernando, R P Arnold, W P U J C Vaas, M F Maharoof, M Muralitharan

Player of the match: W P U J C Vaas (Sri Lanka)

Umpires: Asad Rauf (Pakistan) and B R Doctrove (West Indies) TV umpire: Aleem Dar (Pakistan) Match referee: M J Procter (South Africa) Reserve umpire: M R Benson (England)


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Two Iraqi MPs killed in bombing at parliament

April 12, 2007

Eight people, including two members of the Iraqi were killed in a bomb explosion at a cafe inside the parliamentary building in Baghdad during lunchtime.

Approximately 20 people are reported wounded in the attack inside the heavily fortified. According to a BBC report, the cafe where the bomb was detonated was frequented by Iraqi MPs. The parliament had closed for lunch only ten minutes earlier and the cafe was at the start of a busy period.

In order for the bomber to reach his target, he would have had to pass through several armed checkpoints, leading to suspicions that the bomb was smuggled in separately. However, according to  (AP) reports, a scanner used to check pedestrians at the Green Zone entrance near the Council of Representatives was not operational. People were searched by hand or went through metal detectors, and dogs were used to check people entering the building earlier in the day, a rare occurrence, AP said. It is suspected that a bodyguard of one of the lawmakers smuggled in the bomb.

The attack follows an attack on a major bridge across the River Tigris, which was damaged with a truck bomb.

United States military spokesperson Major-General William Caldwell said the blast bore the hallmarks of Sunni Islamist al Qaeda, which has been resurgent in recent weeks despite.


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NHL: Ducks edge Wild in Playoff opener

April 11, 2007

''Ducks lead series 1-0. (Best of Seven)''

Dustin Penner scored the game winning goal with 5:20 remaining in regulation, and the Anaheim Ducks defeated the Minnesota Wild 2-1, Wednesday night. The Ducks took a 1-0 lead in the best-of-seven game series, thanks in part to Penner's goal.

After a scoreless first period highlighted by good defensive play from both teams, Pavol Demitra scored the game's first goal in the second, beating Anaheim goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov to give Minnesota a 1-0 lead. 3:51 later, Teemu Selanne scored on a breakaway, knotting the score up at 1-1.

With the score tied in the third, the Ducks picked up a rebound off a shot by the Wild. Quickly, the Ducks mounted a counter-attack, passing the puck up to Penner. Penner shot from the left side of the net, but the puck was stopped by Minnesota goaltender Nicklas Backstrom. However, the puck would richochet off of the pad of Backstrom, allowing Penner to shove the puck into the net, sealing the Ducks win. Commenting on his score after the game in the post game press conference, Penner said: "If the puck didn't go in after the initial shot I wanted to be able to pick up any loose change." And that was exactly what he did.

Three Stars of the Game

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Violence in Uganda over forest clearing proposal

April 12, 2007

Four people are reported killed in Kampala, Uganda, amidst protest marches organised against a government proposal to cut down 7,000 hectares of forest land to expand a private company's sugarcane plantations.

Two men of Asian descent were stoned to death by a mob, and the deaths of two others were under investigation, according to police sources. A witness said that one of the Asians was attacked after he ran his motorcycle into a crowd. BBC News reported that a looter was shot dead and a bystander wounded by security guards.

Asian businesses and a Hindu temple were attacked by rioters; in response, police deployed armoured cars, used tear gas, and opened fire to quell the violence. A group of Asians trapped in the temple by a mob were rescued by police.

The sugar company is owned by the Mehta Group, established by Indian immigrant Nanji Kalidas Mehta. Asian immigrants formed a prosperous trading community in Uganda before they were expelled by Idi Amin in 1972. Many returned following Amin's downfall, but some Ugandans view their presence and business with suspicion.

The Mabira reserve forest in south-east Uganda covers about 30,000 hectares and is home to several rare species; it has been a reserve forest since 1932. A primatologist working in the area announced in February that monkeys in the forest previously thought to be Gray-cheeked Mangabey (Lophocebus albigena) were in fact a new species.

President Yoweri Museveni's government is considering a proposal to de-notify and transfer 7,000 acres of land to the Sugar Corporation of Uganda Limited (Scoul) to expand its sugarcane plantations. A cabinet paper says the plan will generate 3500 jobs and will contribute 11.5 billion shillings to the treasury.

Scoul bills itself as the largest employer in East Africa, with 7,300 employees manufacturing sugar and industrial alcohol at its 10,000 hectare Lugazi estate. The Ugandan newspaper Monitor reports that Scoul's plantations have been reduced in acreage after it failed to reach agreement over existing leases with various landlords.

Scoul says that plantations at the Mabira forest will help double its annual production to 110 metric tonnes, and in a newspaper advertisement published on Thursday, said that "anti-development lobby groups" were misleading the public about the Mabira plan. In its environment policy, the company says it is committed to a managing land and wetlands resources in an environmentally sensitive manner.

The plan is opposed by Ugandan MPs because of its environmental impact. An official from the Ugandan National Forestry Authority told the news agency AFP that the plan will destroy the area's biodiversity and affect locals' livelihood.

Scoul says the forest land is already being encroached upon by subsistence farmers.

Meanwhile, the group has been offered land in Mengo and by the Anglican church in Mukono as an alternative to the Mabira plan. Scoul Chief Executive S.C Khanna says that he will consider such an alternative if the land is fertile, free of "squatters" and close enough — within 30 km of the sugar factory — so that the cost of transporting sugarcane is viable.

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UEFA Cup: Tottenham out after 2-2 draw with Sevilla

April 12, 2007

English club Tottenham Hotspur dropped out of the UEFA Cup after a 2-2 draw at against Spanish side. Spurs lost the first game 2-1 in Spain, and the tie was enough to see Sevilla through 4-3 on aggregate.

Sevilla had a 2-0 lead after just eight minutes in London. scored an own goal after 3 minutes as he attempted to clear the ball off the line. The ball scuffed off the bottom of his boot and bobbled into the net. Former Tottenham player then doubled the visitors lead only minutes later after he collected the ball, played a one two, and danced around keeper. Before the end of the first half, struck the post off a hammered shot, but the score remained 2-0.

Tottenham struck back in the second half and substitute scored minutes after coming on to cut Sevilla's lead. Just a minute later, tied the game, putting pressure on Sevilla. Two more chances emerged for Tottenham, one through defender and Dimitar Berbatov, but neither where able to convert. With only stoppage time remaining, and Spurs in need of two goals to advance, frustration played out as was red carded for a dangerous challenge on Puerta.

Sevilla was one of three Spanish sides to advance to the semi-finals Thursday, and they will face Osasuna in the next round, guaranteeing there will be a Spanish club in the final. Tottenham have only the Premiership left to contend for now, as they look to book a European spot for next season against Wigan Athletic on the 15th.


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CBS fires radio personality Don Imus

April 12, 2007

, a subsidiary of CBS, fired Thursday amidst controversy over comments made on the air last week about the   team.

Last week Imus called the team "nappy-headed hos" during one of his radio show broadcasts.

The CBS decision came one day after NBC pulled the plug on the Imus Show's simulcast on MSNBC as a result of the remarks. A handful of advertisers withdrew their support of the Imus Show prior to both network's decisions.

"There has been much discussion of the effect language like this has on our young people, particularly young women of color trying to make their way in this society. That consideration has weighed most heavily on our minds as we made our decision," said Leslie Moonves, the executive producer for CBS.

Imus does not hold the firing against CBS saying "I understand the pressure they were under. I said it. I wouldn't be here if I didn't say it."

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Talk:CBS fires radio personality Don Imus

April 2007

 * OR is nice and all, but you need to have someone at least backing it up, and some notes about it. Also needs to say what comments got him fired, etc. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Can someone link to Don Imus' Wikiquote page from this article?
I don't know how to do it or I would. I just stuck in a whole lot of controversial Don Imus quotes there that would be useful background to anyone reading this page. I started a similar page on Wikipedia, but it's getting deleted (with my approval). All the quotes are at Wikiquote. It would be useful to readers who want to better understand the background. Noroton 21:59, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Is there a reciprocal template? Or can you cite as a source? --Brian McNeil / talk 22:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

replacing source
I am replacing this source with a Reuters article:

let me know if you have a problem with that. ---SVTCobra 23:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

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edit protected Please add this article to Category:MSNBC. Thank you. Green Giant (talk) 12:52, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 14:08, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

edit protected Please add this article to Category:CBS, and localize the link of the same name as well as MSNBC. Thank you. Green Giant (talk) 09:45, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
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Talk:UN genocide exhibit removed and put on hold after Turkey objects

What is genocide
It's a little rediculous that they say "What is genocide while referring to Turkey?" and act so matter of fact about Bosnia (where upper estimates are like 8000 people being killed). Nyarlathotep 23:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

non-NPOV
On the Armenian genocide the wording of the Reuters article is far superior to the current words, eg current wikinews "has been dismantled and postponed because Turkey raised objections to the Armenian genocide being mentioned." Note this wording does not even say "alleged genocide" compare that with the Reuters' words "after Turkish objections to a mention of the killing of Armenians in Turkey during World War One". The whole construction of the Reuters article carries a far better NPOV.

The Turkish government does not agree that it was a genocide. When reporting the incident Reuters for example is careful not to use the term instead it phrases it like this. "A U.N. exhibit on the 13th anniversary of the Rwanda genocide has been delayed after Turkish objections to a mention of the killing of Armenians in Turkey during World War One, organizers said on Monday.". That Armenians were killed is not the issue the issue is whether it was a genocide and as wikinews has a eutral point of view policy it ought not state unequivocally that it was a genocide as it implies that the Turkish government is wrong which is not a NPOV. BTW Reuters does not say the "killings in Rwanda" it uses the term "Rwanda genocide" because an international tribunal has found that genocide took place in Rwanda.

The current wording of the Wikinews article assumes that is was a genocide. As the word did not exist at the time no one was tried for Genocide and unlike the Holocaust a seizable minority dispute that it was a genocide, as their views are clearly respected by the UN (hence their willingness to address Turkey's concerns), and so should Wikinews, as a major Wikinews policy is WN:NPOV. For this reason I am placed the NPOV template on this article. --PBS 13:12, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

 * it is too late to copyedit the article for pov. Wikinews articles are not works in progress and, once published, will not be modified further. if there are factual errors in the article, however, a correction can be issued. i'll be removing the npov tag, but discussions about errors, if any, can continue. –Doldrums(talk) 13:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Briefs/April 12, 2007

Continental passenger jet almost shot down
A Continental Airlines Boeing 777 was in danger of being shot down Wednesday, during a New York to Tel Aviv commercial flight. The pilot of the 777 failed to make contact when approaching the Israeli coast, and authorities were afraid the airliner had been taken over by hijackers. Two Israeli F-15s and two F-16s were scrambled to intercept. While the plane was still over the Mediterranean, the captain realised the situation and immediately made contact. The Continental airliner was then escorted to Tel Aviv airport by the fighter jets without incident. Upon landing at Tel Aviv's Ben Gurion International Airport, an inquiry into the incident was opened by officials.

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Pakistani army involved in NWFP battles
For the first time President Pervez Musharraf has admitted the Pakistani army has been helping tribal fighters in the NWFP battling foreign militants. Media has in recent days reported on battles between local tribes and al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters, primarily of Uzbek origin.

"The people of South Waziristan now have risen against the foreigners," Musharraf told a conference of defense officials in Islamabad on Thursday. "They have killed about 300 of them. They have support from the Pakistan army. They asked for it."

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Katie Couric unaware of plagiarism
CBS has admitted that the April 4 installment of "Katie Couric's Notebook" was plagiarized. It seems it consisted mainly of passages lifted verbatim from a Wall Street Journal column by Jeffrey Zaslow which was published in March.

Although, attributed to - and read by - Katie Couric, in the video essay "Katie Couric's Notebook," it has been revealed that she did not write them and that they were supplied for her by CBS producers. Couric, herself, has not commented.

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title: Wikinews:Briefs/April 12, 2007


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Research In Motion financial probe becomes formal investigation

April 13, 2007 On Wednesday, Canadian maker  (RIM), reported preliminary fourth quarter and year-end financial results. Despite record profits, up from US$18 million in the same quarter last year to $188 million for the current quarter, the news was dampened by the revelation that the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) had formalized its investigation into RIM's accounting practices.

An internal review by RIM, initiated eight months ago, revealed irregularities with how the company accounted for stock options. On March 5 of 2007, RIM co-chief executive and chairman,, resigned his position of chairman, due to the irregularities.

RIM had indicated, until recently, that the SEC probe into the company's stock option granting practices was an informal inquiry. In a press release April 11, RIM suggested that "the informal inquiry has been converted to a formal investigation."

In its press release, RIM indicated it would restate financials for the second and third quarters of fiscal 2007, and the fiscal year ended March 3, 2007 only. Through its internal probe, RIM had determined that the accounting irregularities for recently filed Canadian (GAAP) statements would not result in a material adjustment. It would not, therefore, restate Canadian GAAP financial statements, filed previously.

Aside from the record profits just reported, RIM indicated that it had shipped approximately 6.4 million BlackBerry devices in fiscal 2007 and that 1.02 million subscriber accounts were added in the fourth quarter. At the end of the quarter, the total BlackBerry subscriber account base had increased to 8 million.

On the news of the formal SEC inquiry, RIM's stock price was down over 8%, Thursday, on the NASDAQ.