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User talk:Skenmy/Archive 4

Questions for Board candidacy
I appreciate that applications are still open, and the Q&A phase has not been started, but I want to bug you, and I'd invite other Wikinewsies to do so too.

 * Do you feel you can genuinely devote the time to the board and not end up as a non-contributor on your home project?
 * Are you in favour of more open (potentially radically open) communication between board and community?
 * Do you believe that you can fairly represent projects you are not heavily involved in?

I'll be sticking these to all the candidates, so there is no rush to answer. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:56, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I did not know that there was a question period/phase, so I'll reserve that for later. Good luck!  Cirt (talk) 08:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the questions, Brian. I will outdent here for formatting purposes. --Skenmy(t•c•w) 15:55, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

 * Do you feel you can genuinely devote the time to the board and not end up as a non-contributor on your home project?
 * I do honestly feel that I will be able to continue contributing to Wikinews in as many ways as I am already doing, if not more due to my further involvement with the Foundation and its' dealings.

 * Are you in favour of more open (potentially radically open) communication between board and community?
 * Strongly. It was actually one of my original candidacy statements until I had to trim it to 1200 characters! I believe that having more radically open communication between the board and the community is absolutely imperative, and as a Board member I will strive to have this implemented.

 * Do you believe that you can fairly represent projects you are not heavily involved in?
 * While I am not heavily involved in these projects, I believe I can understand their wants and needs. I am an avid reader of many of the mailing lists hosted by Wikimedia, and I often find myself browsing other project's policy pages to understand the unique needs of every project. As a community-elected board member, I want to be approachable - someone the communities can come to with the problems that require a board action, and act on their behalf - I'm not here to push my own agenda. My candidacy is based on the hope that I will be accepted as someone who can and will represent, fairly, the views of the communities behind me, whether or not I am an active contributor. We are all striving towards the same goals, at the end of the day, and it would be counter-productive to place the needs of one project (my home project, for instance) over another. --Skenmy(t•c•w) 15:55, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Dumps

 * Do you wish to comment on the chronic lack of database dumps of the English Wikipedia? -- Cimon Avaro (talk) 03:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I am assuming this is a board candidacy question, so I will reply as if it is.
 * The lack of dumps is concerning, as it hinders outside projects from benefiting from the content that is included in Wikipedia. However, I am sure that the technical team are aware of the issue and are working to resolve it - i'm also aware that this is not the only problem that goes on around Wikimedia and so resources may be stretched elsewhere. --Skenmy(t•c•w) 15:38, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews Bulletin
Here is the latest Wikinews bulletin. Enjoy!

Anonymous101  12:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Templates
We included that text in the footer because, for the first two years, Wikinews as published as public domain content. It is possible to present content which is alternatively licensed. I'm not sure it's possible to present and use code that is alternatively licensed, but you have a valid point I would need to research. -  Amgine | t 17:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

 * 11. An obvious copyright violation that is a cut-and-paste exact or near-exact duplicate of content from a copyrighted source. Speedy delete does not apply for public-domain sources, when public domain reprint permission is granted from the original source and specified in the article talk page, or to articles with a third-party edit history.
 * Are you saying Wikipedia is not copyrighted? -  Amgine | t 17:39, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

 * As for whether a template is a program, I suggest you ask the Devs if the template code constitutes a programming language. -  Amgine | t 17:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

 * Then I believe the templates constitute an exact or near-exact duplicate of content from a copyrighted source, that Wikipedia does not constitute a public domain source, and that permission from the original source to migrate the license to CC-by does not exist. -  Amgine | t 17:45, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

 * Well, as I said, that's a valid point. I'm not entirely sure it's possible, but it may be. I don't know. (I note the transferrer added text to that effect to one of the templates, today, after the noms.) -  Amgine | t 17:56, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikimag
Hello ! I contact you, to know if I can interview you for the Wikimag which is the equivalent of Sign Post on Wikipedia english. Like for User:Cspurrier. Thank you. - mik@ni 15:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

board election - question regarding Wikiversity
Hello Paul, since you seem more active in this Wikimedia project I wanted to ask you: since there are only a few days left until end of election I personally hope I still can see your response about this question regarding Wikiversity ? Thank you very much in advance, Erkan Yilmaz ( evaluate me!, discussion ) 15:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

CU nomination
I have nominated you for CheckUser. Please accept this nomination, I will canvas for support on the checkuser mailing list, the requirement for 25 votes is pretty high for us as a small project and I would like to think my voice there may gain you a vote or two. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:50, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Message from IRC User drivamgr2008Spri (User:Tmalmjursson)
Hi. This is a mass message to those I know on IRC from Wikinews and Wikinews EN. Please refer to my userpage for an important message concerning my IRC Presence. Thanks! Thor Malmjursson (talk) 14:16, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the offer of help, Skenmy. Any assistance is welcomed. I have currently got one of the #Freenode ops, Starnestommy, doing a log check and also a server backup check to find out exactly when and where this incident occurred.  I had my password changed without consent, and I know for an absolute fact that I did not do it! Thor Malmjursson (talk) 14:26, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Play.com Live multimedia exposition hosted at Wembley Stadium, England
I restored Play.com Live multimedia exposition hosted at Wembley Stadium, England as the reason you gave for deletion was invalid for a mainspace article that has been published for months and edited by several users. I hope this isn't a problem. Anonymous101talk 12:16, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

FlaggedRevs
If you have not already seen this, please look, comment, and vote both here and on bugzilla. Further assistance such as contact information for Google would be a very useful detail to share and help in petitioning for a listing in their news index. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:01, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Category removal
Hello. Could you please explain why you removed the category 'Nationalism' from this story? You characterized it as a "bad categorization", but I don't see why that is the case, given that the key role that separatist nationalism plays in this conflict. SJL (talk) 18:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Edittools - Important Information for Editors
This change/addition is excellent, thank you. Cirt (talk) 22:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Looking for a little assistance
It's been a bit since I've started a Wikinews article. Tried a short one today but a bit out of practice. Would you give it a going-over, please? Animal magnetism. Thanks :) Durova (talk) 00:02, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

WN:RFP
has posed a question to you. Good luck with the rest of the RfB! Cirt (talk) 02:14, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations on your promotion to bureaucrat. You have the trust of the community. With that trust comes responsibility which I'm sure you'll handle admirably and bureaucratically. :) --Chiacomo (talk) 05:48, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Cirt (talk) 06:24, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for adding the requested category to the Texas Tech-related news stories. I appreciate the help. --Wordbuilder (talk) 14:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Template help
I'm trying to figure out a way to get this template to be able to reference Wikipedias in different languages, but I can't seem to figure out how. Would you know how to do this? Jade Knight (talk) 09:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Post-election spam
Thank you for supporting me for adminship. :) I'll try to make you glad you did it.  So here's a Nadezhda "Harry S. Truman" Durova campaign song.  All the best, Durova (talk) 00:25, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikimania Oxford bid
Some time ago you indicated your support of the Oxford 2010 Wikimania Bid, and it was recieved with much gratitude. I now ask if you could could help support our bid by contributing to the bid page that is located at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2010/Bids/Oxford. Now is the critical period for work to continue on the bid as the official bidding period has now started and the jury has been formed.

I do not ask for huge swathes of time, just enough that with eveyrone working on this, it can be completed in time to the high standard required in a bid. For the bid page, an excellent source of information is the travel wiki article on the City of Oxford which is found at: http://wikitravel.org/en/Oxford. The chance of bringing Wikimania to the UK is the best so far and i expect the best chance for many years. With a fresh and stong UK chapter we have an amazing opportunity to put ourselves on the map. If you have any questions, please mail them to the Wikimedia UK mailing list, email me or post a message on my my talk page and i will answer as quickly as possible.

I look forward to working with you on the bid page. Many Thanks. Seddon (talk) 15:10, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

RfB ready to be closed ?
Hello, you are one of the bureaucrats that did not vote in the RfB for (see WN:RFP). I made a comment that I think it is ready to be closed as promote - could you take a look? Thank you, Cirt (talk) 18:09, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅, by . Cirt (talk) 07:52, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Hallo!
I was checking recent changes, and was rather surprised to see your username up there. Nice to see you back after a four-month-long hiatus. Don't forget to move your name at WN:A back to the active list. Cheers. ♪ Tempo di valse ♪  14:01, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

At least 3 police officers killed in Pittsburgh shootings
Hi, you seemed to have done something to this page so that I can't sight it -- you seem to have "validated" it or something instead of the usual "sighting", and that causes the sight function to not work. Could you take a look and see what, if anything, is wrong? Thanks, ♪ Tempo di valse ♪  21:19, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Oh, okay, that makes sense. That strikes me as odd, since I've only seen the usual "sighting" when an article is reviewed and published, never "validation". Thanks for your reply, ♪ Tempo di valse ♪  22:33, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Adam, an intelligent robot conducts experiments
Thank you for your comments regarding it being a press release and not a news article. What is the difference, I kind of thought press releases were news articles? SriMesh | talk  03:42, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I read several things, and made some changes. To fix NPOV I filled in the comments brought forward from different Universities, and that should help perhaps the press release where it kind of sounds like an advertisement sort of.  So I put it back to review.  Let me know if I came close or not to your POV.SriMesh |  talk  04:21, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments. I didn't put the different Universities originally as they seemed to be not facts pertaining directly to Adam, just theories from across the pond.  But, once it was indeed added, it did offer more food for thought for readers about what is excellent and what needs improving on Adam.  Kind Regards and thanks for thinking it would be better with that addition. SriMesh |  talk  18:25, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Review process
I dunno if you recall our conversation about the review process, but I did an experiment recently. 60% of article submissions were deleted.

Of the total articles, 10% were deleted with cause (article did not meet WN style guide, etc.) 50% were deleted without basis in policy without receiving a review, or being reviewed and pushed back to develop without basis in policy. One article was deleted after being marked for merge (I don't remember if it was actually merged or not.)

Of the 40% which were eventually published, 75% received no content edits until after publication. Of the 60% of articles deleted, 83.3% received no content edits before deletion that I was aware of (they may have been edited after I last examined them but before their deletion.)

Conclusion: Articles in the review process receive little or no collaboration/editing. 'Reviewers' do not attempt to get articles to publishable status, appear to have limited vocabulary/English skills/grasp of WN:SG/policies. Without visibility (such as listing on the main page), articles in development languish abandoned.

These are the same conclusions as reached after the previous review process. -  Amgine | t 05:42, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I actually make an attempt. A few typos here and there are fixed. Maybe a phrase or two. There has been a lot of bigger breaking stories lately, so IMO those receive more attention. Not to mention policy states that edits can be made at least 24 hours after publication, again depending on the event or type of news.

 * If there are people intentionally abusing the review process to publish then they should be called out and put up for removal vote or the likes. I don't think it has so much to do with what was and was not published based on the news itself (people will write/edit/etc what interests them more than half the time). Is there going to be a little laziness? Of course and we are all guilty of that on more than one account. Personally I learned my lesson from the Floro incident, which is another story altogether. If we really want to be technical, we can tear the articles from when there was not a review process apart in many respects. IMO the quality of articles are greatly increased than before hand. I think a test of about 10 articles really doesn't constitute too much of a fair test.

 * Finally, the end result is simple: If people are intentionally violating the review process, then they need to be dealt with accordingly. Period. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

 * I have no opinion whether or not people are acting intentionally to skew the review process; I suspect some may be sensitive to specific topics (ala Neutralizer) but that's neither here nor there. The problem with this review process is 1) readers are isolated from developing articles, so the developing articles do not get enough eyeballs, and 2) most (more than half) of articles started end up languishing until erased as abandoned unless their sole author pushes them through to publication. Sole-authored articles are effectively a short-circuit of the wiki method; wikinews might just as well be a news blog rather than a wiki.

 * One concern is that single users present bogus arguments to prevent an article's publication. For example, about 3-5% of professional news headlines are phrased as rhetorical questions, a form which has a long journalistic history. Dozens of Wikinews articles (and hundreds of redirects) are phrased this way. Another example is the alliterative title, envoy equivocates on environment, which was precisely true according to the terms' definitions, yet a user objected to the word 'equivocates' and the article was never published. Disputing a title for an otherwise acceptable article is ludicrous; change the title and publish the work. Argue about the title later.

 * Yes, community-developed news is not likely to win a lot of awards for clarity and focus. But there's already a lot of blog journalism, some of it very good. And Wikinews is not a blog. -  Amgine | t 03:08, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * As I said, most of the time people here write, edit and c/e what interests them. 'Short-circuiting' of articles is not a reviewer's/'editors' fault. If someone is not interested, then its likely not to get published. No one is isolated from developing articles. You simply click on the newsroom, which brings you to the articles. Maybe the newsroom needs a better position, I don't know. But no one is cut off from any article(s) unless archived. I don't mind a question in a headline, but as little as it's done, IMO it's still unprofessional and more like writing an editorial than a news article. Wikinews is different and we are not like other news agencies. We strive to do things different from them. I can agree on the title terms, as I often do the same thing. Titles are not important in terms of publishing per se, but its still not nice to change titles after publishing. Blog journalism, as you call it, boils down to what is or is not published and that further boils down to what we are and are not interested in when we write. Yes we have bad stories (in terms what is or is not thought of as news). Yes we have some cheesy ones. But that does not make us a 'blog'. We don't publish editorials or opinions and we don't speculate. So I think in those terms, its quite difficult to say we are or will be a blog.

 * And as I said earlier, if there re not proper reviews being done, self publishing, or just intentional constant laziness, then it needs to be pointed out and dealt with...period. If those actions are being ignored, or people are too afraid to call them out on their actions, then the review process is useless. But we should not accuse people of doing things wrong if we are not going to call them out on it. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:07, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Eh? My comment is that the *process*, not the editors, is broken. For pretty much exactly the reasons you present: contributors are not required to c/e articles they aren't interested in, or review them. If no one is interested, the article is unlikely to be published because it (currently) must pass through a review process before being published. There's little or no benefit to saying one or another editor has done a bad job of reviewing this or that article when it's the review system which is the problem.

 * A very important issue which you seem to have missed is that most articles which have been published then undergo copy editing and expansion, while most unpublished articles do not. There is a clear and obvious reason for this: more people see them on the main page and read them. By hiding the developing articles away from the reading - and editing - public, fewer articles are published and those which are have not benefited from additional copy editing and writing.

 * And by the way, you most certainly do publish editorials, and speculation. I've pointed it out dozens of times to you in your personal articles. Blog journalism is essentially personality-driven reporting, where only the topics of interest to the blogger are covered, and then only from xyr point of view. There's plenty of that already, which is why Wikinews can be a breath of fresh air. (It's extremely unfortunate that corporate media are looking such models to copy, since bloggers are only useful to contrast with balanced news reporting.) - <span style="font: italic 10pt/12pt cursive;"> Amgine | t 03:58, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

A penny for your thoughts
Okay, not really, but I am requesting your participation in the following Water Cooler Discussion: OR and Broadcast report. The discussion involves the need for specific policy concerning how Original Reporting relates to information recieved from a broadcast report of an event. This can include both news-style reports and non-news reports, such as a sporting event. Thanks and again, please share your thoughts on this so we can get as many people involved as possible, especially since this relates to an important topic such as OR. —Calebrw (talk) 05:18, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I was wondering why you blocked this user without first warning about external link spamming? I agree that the links he inserted were inappropriate, but an immediate block without warning seems a bit harsh. I won't revert your block, but was just wondering about your reasoning behind it. Cheers, <font color="darkred" face="Georgia">tempo <font color="darkblue" face="Georgia">divalse  20:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Policy for foreign language sources
can you recall a policy on Wikinews articles NOT containing only foreign language sources? If so please see my talk page at: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:DragonFire1024#New_question_on_staleness I seem to remember you referencing a link to such a policy. Thanks :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 03:35, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Election notice
Nominations are now being accepted for the Arbitration Committee.

The deadline for nominations is Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 23:59 UTC. Elections will commence on Monday, August 10, 2009 and close on Monday, August 17, 2009 at 23:59 UTC. The new Committee will be appointed on Tuesday, August 18, 2009.

Please see http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Arbitration Committee/2009 elections

Please circulate this notice.

Thanks Computerjoe 's talk 12:35, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Vector Hater, You get to keep your tools!
Congrats, You get to keep your sysop, crat, checkuser, editor, reviewer and kitchensink tools. You are officially not loathed by the community, with the exception of my on going war because of your hating on vector. I'd send the admin mobile by, but I think someone stole it or lost it. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 15:45, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

My RfA
Just wanted to say thanks for participating in my RfA. I'll be sure to put the tools to good use. :) – Juliancolton  | Talk 18:55, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

WikiVoices
Think you could manage this? WikiVoices? I pick you as accredited, 'crat, and great radio voice ;-) --Brian McNeil / talk 13:53, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

election certificate
Benny the mascot (talk) 20:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

"Thorough" checkuser
Would you please deal with the concerns I have raised concerning a certain user from the Federally Administered Tribal Areas of Pakistan?

Or, at least reassure me that proactive action is being taken to avoid xe, with at-will access to a /16, plus proxies and compromised webhosts, is not going to end up with a collection of reviewer accounts? --Brian McNeil / talk 18:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

RfCU
Per here, please respond. This, I believe, should be treated as a serious matter. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:36, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Archiv-Bot
Hi Skenmy. I work in another Wiki and I would like to know how your Bot for Archives works. —88.64.90.215 (talk) 16:40, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

ArbCom nomination?
Would you accept nomination for another year on ArbCom? The deadline for nominations is 2000UTC on the 17th. --Pi zero (talk) 17:39, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I would accept --<span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif"> Sken   my talk 22:30, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I've nominated you. --Pi zero (talk) 23:13, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Please see my heads up at ArbCom talk page
Please see Wikinews_talk:Arbitration_Committee. Just wanted to keep you in the loop, -- Cirt (talk) 19:32, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

ArbCom nomination?
Would you accept nomination for another year on ArbCom? The deadline for nominations is 2000UTC on the 17th. --Pi zero (talk) 01:04, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Confirmed via email. --Pi zero (talk) 13:48, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Your recent article review
How did you verify the interview text?

(Btw, you really should have sent the article back to the reporter to give it a proper lede; it doesn't get to the point as a news article should, but instead doesn't even mention the focal event —the interview— until the second paragraph, after spending a whole somewhat-long paragraph on background information, much of which doesn't even belong in the later sentence(s) of a lede.) --Pi zero (talk) 13:56, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

<span style="font: italic 10pt/12pt cursive;"> Amgine | t 00:20, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * <chuckles> I was expecting content at any moment, which likely our good friend has obviated. Still, good to see you here! - <span style="font: italic 10pt/12pt cursive;"> Amgine | t 17:31, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Request for reviewing and other assistance
Hi. Next week is the start of the and two Wikinewies will be attending to cover the para-alpine skiing ahead of the 2014 Winter Paralympics. This is part of an effort outlined at IPC Alpine Ski World Championships. Immediately following this event, there will be a Meetup in Barcelona where Wikinews, the Paralympics and efforts to similar sport coverage will be discussed. At the moment, there are only two active reviewers on a daily basis. Demonstrating an ability to get reviews for these types of events done quickly is important for Wikinews credibility and gaining access to these types of events. I would really appreciate it if you could sign up on the IPC World Championship page to review, promote articles published during this period, assist in translating these articles into another language or attend the meetup in Barcelona. Thanks. --LauraHale (talk) 09:32, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikinews Writing contest 2013 is here. :) Please sign up to participate?
We've created the Writing contest 2013, which will start on April 1 and end on June 1. It is modeled on the successful 2010 contest. It would be a really great time for you, as an inactive Wikinews accredited reporter, to renew your credentials by doing some original reporting or conducting interviews. People should be around to interview to prevent a backlog, and several reviewers have access to scoop to make it easier to review any original reporting you do. If you are interested in signing up, please do so on Writing contest 2013/entrants. There is at least one prize on offer for the winner along with the opportunity to earn some barn stars as a way of thanking you for your participation. :D --LauraHale (talk) 10:26, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

too late :-( ArbCom
Hi. Too late, I feel sheepish that with everything else going on (on Wikinews and irl), I didn't ask you to stand for ArbCom this year. Honestly I'd have asked your permission to nominate you. --Pi zero (talk) 15:17, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Editing from America Online?
Please read Advice to AOL users.
 * }2602:304:AF53:3E99:7931:1C25:FC49:98D7 (talk) 19:39, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

ArbCom 2014
Looking ahead to next month, would you accept nomination for ArbCom this year? --Pi zero (talk) 15:33, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

An important message about renaming users
Dear Skenmy,

I am cross-posting this message to many places to make sure everyone who is a Wikimedia Foundation project bureaucrat receives a copy. If you are a bureaucrat on more than one wiki, you will receive this message on each wiki where you are a bureaucrat.

As you may have seen, work to perform the Wikimedia cluster-wide single-user login finalisation (SUL finalisation) is taking place. This may potentially effect your work as a local bureaucrat, so please read this message carefully.

Why is this happening? As currently stated at the global rename policy, a global account is a name linked to a single user across all Wikimedia wikis, with local accounts unified into a global collection. Previously, the only way to rename a unified user was to individually rename every local account. This was an extremely difficult and time-consuming task, both for stewards and for the users who had to initiate discussions with local bureaucrats (who perform local renames to date) on every wiki with available bureaucrats. The process took a very long time, since it's difficult to coordinate crosswiki renames among the projects and bureaucrats involved in individual projects.

The SUL finalisation will be taking place in stages, and one of the first stages will be to turn off Special:RenameUser locally. This needs to be done as soon as possible, on advice and input from Stewards and engineers for the project, so that no more accounts that are unified globally are broken by a local rename to usurp the global account name. Once this is done, the process of global name unification can begin. The date that has been chosen to turn off local renaming and shift over to entirely global renaming is 15 September 2014, or three weeks time from now. In place of local renames is a new tool, hosted on Meta, that allows for global renames on all wikis where the name is not registered will be deployed.

Your help is greatly needed during this process and going forward in the future if, as a bureaucrat, renaming users is something that you do or have an interest in participating in. The Wikimedia Stewards have set up, and are in charge of, a new community usergroup on Meta in order to share knowledge and work together on renaming accounts globally, called Global renamers. Stewards are in the process of creating documentation to help global renamers to get used to and learn more about global accounts and tools and Meta in general as well as the application format. As transparency is a valuable thing in our movement, the Stewards would like to have at least a brief public application period. If you are an experienced renamer as a local bureaucrat, the process of becoming a part of this group could take as little as 24 hours to complete. You, as a bureaucrat, should be able to apply for the global renamer right on Meta by the requests for global permissions page on 1 September, a week from now.

In the meantime please update your local page where users request renames to reflect this move to global renaming, and if there is a rename request and the user has edited more than one wiki with the name, please send them to the request page for a global rename.

Stewards greatly appreciate the trust local communities have in you and want to make this transition as easy as possible so that the two groups can start working together to ensure everyone has a unique login identity across Wikimedia projects. Completing this project will allow for long-desired universal tools like a global watchlist, global notifications and many, many more features to make work easier.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns about the SUL finalisation, read over the Help:Unified login page on Meta and leave a note on the talk page there, or on the talk page for global renamers. You can also contact me on my talk page on meta if you would like. I'm working as a bridge between Wikimedia Foundation Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Stewards, and you to assure that SUL finalisation goes as smoothly as possible; this is a community-driven process and I encourage you to work with the Stewards for our communities.

Thank you for your time. -- Keegan (WMF) talk 18:24, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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Being bothered by User:Pi zero
He is bothering me with rubbish each edit. He is never contributing. He deletes articles comments sites here, although the article is existing. Articles under development are clean up articles. I might not write about RB Leipzig. My started articles have interest and he says that other archived articles are which from amateur clubs, university clubs or something else. He wants to rename my name here and is not rename me. My articles are written after the style such as about other proven football match reports. He is psychic unable to name reasons. Please remove him from the board! He neither productive nor socially competent or educated, for a globally representative on public free sites. He gets 3 up to 8 Dollars for a block. That is one of the many reasons why they are wild to block others and counting them in infoboxes. "Hä hä". --Nikebrand (talk) 21:53, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

CheckUser removal
Hi Skenmy, as you have been inactive completely for 1 year, per CU I have removed your CheckUser rights. Thank you for your contributions to Wikimedia! --Rschen7754 14:40, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom election 2015
Hi. Would you be willing to accept nomination again this year (or, nominate yourself)? --Pi zero (talk) 17:06, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

privs
'''Note! Your privileges on English Wikinews have been reduced.'''
 * Under the Privilege expiry policy (enacted October 13, 2012) the rights held by your user account have been reduced due to inactivity, or lack of privilege use.

 * Point 4 of the Privilege expiry policy provides for fast-tracking reacquisition of privileges. We all understand that real-life commitments can severely curtail the level of commitment you can give to Wikinews; the privilege reduction is in no way intended as a reflection on your past work, or to imply you are unwelcome. The aim in curtailing privileges is to address security risks, and concern that a long period of inactivity means you may not be up-to-date with current policy and practices.

Review bit. --Pi zero (talk) 01:04, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Privs
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18 illegal Afghan and Burmese immigrants killed in truck crash in Turkey

October 5, 2008 18 illegal immigrants from Afghanistan and Burma have died after the truck smuggling them crashed in Turkey. The vehicle had been converted with compartments for hiding people in, so that news agencies are describing the modified vehicle as both a truck and a bus.

The driver appears to have lost control in Tekirdağ, near the town of Malkara, about 60 miles West of Istanbul. The vehicle overturned. 23 passengers were injured and are reported to be hospitalised and in good condition.

The truck driver survived and fled the scene. The vehicle is thought to have been destined for Greece. No other vehicles were involved.


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editprotected 'Category:Burma' should be replaced with 'Category:Myanmar'. Van der Hoorn (talk) 13:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

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Comments:Law firm tries to ban new book by Cambridge Press

Ah, capitalism. You've helped democracy so much...I really feel for this guy, maybe he can give into demands then, whoops, accidentally leak the original copy... --Poisonous (talk) 03:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

"Reason to believe"???
The law firm is quoted as saying that they "...have reason to believe that the Book may contain serious, untrue and damaging defamatory allegations about our client..." It makes one wonder how they can be so certain about the contents of an unpublished book. But, maybe Mr. Client was sent an advance copy so he could write up a nice blurb for the dust jacket. —Eodril (talk) 10:33, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

This is terrible —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.154.26.251 (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Both sides of the story?
Was Spicer contacted for comment? 69.140.152.55 02:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Why print it and waste paper
Why print it and waste paper? Hasn't technology arrived yet at our door? I use a very small device to read, a bit larger than a telephone. Release it as creative commons by-sa if possible, in any country outside the UK. Logictheo (talk) 07:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


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It should be written "Tallinn", not "Tallin". Avjoska (talk) 04:16, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:UK government to spy on phone, email, browsing, of entire population

Style Issues
The article seems pretty solid, but I think there are a few things that could use work.

1. Where are the wikilinks? What's the point of having wikilinks if they are not used.

2. Is spies/spying too loaded of a word? Shouldn't spying refer to an illegal act, and if this was inacted would it be illegal? This article does not say specicically whether or not a law will be enacted to enable the "spying." The article does say: "Under the UK's current law a warrant is required to intercept communications, but that will change with the implementation of the new database." But change how?

3. This article isn't written for an international audience, for instance, who's the Queen? (I know, but others may not.) What's a Shadow Home Secretary? I don't know. Sounds sinister though.

4. Are there any people that support this measure (or programme) that have been quoted? It's important to have quotes for both sides.

Anyways, these are just my thoughts. —Calebrw (talk) 17:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * @Gopher65: I have never read 1984. Poor school system I grew up in. ;) —Calebrw (talk) 17:41, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Read it now. Anonymous101talk 17:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

 * Spying to me seems like exactly what it is, just a shortened version of 'monitoring' or 'wiretapping' but is more inclusive. If you want to change it, go ahead, though I disagree. As for the change how part, it's a bit obvious--if a warrant is required and that changes, obviously it no longer is. It's inferred yes but it's a bit redundant it seems to say "Under the UK's current law a warrant is required to intercept communications, but with the new database a warrant will no longer be required", though change it if you like. As for people who support it, we'll have to wait until the Queen speaks it seems. And as for the queen...honestly I think anyone can guess who that is, the Queen of Britain >>; --Poisonous (talk) 00:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

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There seems to be a heated debate in the UK about this, yet only the views of those opposed are presented. That ought to be fixed. If this is close to becoming law there must be proponents out there and they can't be hard to find. --SVTCobra 00:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


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One of the biggest problems with this is that it not only violates the rights of UK citizens but the rights of anyone around the world who communicates with anyone in Britain. The question is, will any government stand up for it's citizens' rights? --Poisonous (talk) 05:00, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

I for one...
welcome Britian's new Orwellian overloads... Enjoy INGSOC guys, glad I'm not British. Oh Labour, where did you go so wrong. --TUFKAAP (talk) 05:36, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Freedom is slavery! Fephisto (talk) 11:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Skype?
With Skype partnering with Tom to get into the Chinese market and the snooping that went on there, will they cave to this one too and let the Brits snoop on your Skype chats and record them? --Brian McNeil / talk 08:33, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Hurray for Democracy!!
I just love democracy! Democracy?? OMG!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.242.246.169 (talk) 10:09, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

omg
its well bad omfg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.219.81.176 (talk) 12:26, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

that why we have the ACLU (as much i hate too admit it) but they will always fight for Citizens rights. --66.229.17.181 19:01, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh dear...
Hopefully this doesn't start a pattern of taking away rights in the name of national security. -Raziel (talk) 19:59, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

 * What do you mean, "start"? ...To think all I need to do is cross the Irish Sea and I'll instantly arrive in a country where I don't have to put up with all these constant creeping violations of our rights. --128.243.253.112 20:40, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

I am strongly opposed to this mad rubbish, where on earth did it come from?
As if Labour can:

- Build the damned thing, considering I'm convinced that it's ACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE to achieve their goals, with the current technology, and also they're useless with databases generally. The NHS one has cost insane amounts of billions of pounds, and it looks like it will NEVER work. And all it's supposed to do is store patient records, no?

- Keep the data secure, do we need any more evidence that they're useless at data security?

They can't do it, of course they shouldn't, but it's not just that; they CAN'T. They're not able, and it's really not possible. How does our government expect to monitor data stored and managed by computers in say, Japan, but used by people here via secure connections? Emails are international, and although basic, old fashioned email can theoretically be monitored, it can easily be encrypted. That technology has been in place for donkey's years. And since when does any home user use real email? Doesn't everyone use webmail such as gmail? Gordon; you can't expect to monitor that. We don't own gmail or hotmail. So as long as every terrorist uses hotmail, gmail, yahoo mail, lycos mail or whatever, the system will surely never even record any of their communications, and BOOM, that's the sound of 12 BILLION JILLION ZILLION POUNDS going up in a OMG, SUICIDE ATTACK. Because they happen ALL DAY here, and the only way to stop them is to spy on innocent people because it's actually only innocent people that will be affected by the system. It'll be so easy for anyone with the know-how to circumvent, they won't even need to try, and when terrorists go to pakistan for training, one of the things they're trained in is computers... So even if they're pants-on-head retarded, they'll come back knowing how to use a gmail account. Makes you wonder, does anyone in the government know this? I think a LITTLE more thought needs to go into this before we drop 12 billion on it. And remember that's a 12 billion budget, since when has anything like this stayed in budget?

I really can't believe this is happening, you could just give the 12 billion to me, then I would happily tell the government if I suspect someone of being a terrorist. Then at least they've got a chance of catching one, or even better, take a bet with another country:

"I bet you 12 billion that we'll get a terrorist attack"

Saudi Arabia could afford to take that right? And so they'd make bloody sure we don't have any terrorist attacks, and eventually when we don't have any, we can give the 12 billion to saudi arabia. We've still lost 12 billion, but the country was safe and nobody got blown up or spied on.

As if terrorists spend all day texting eachother about their plans.

"rite m8, we still blowin up nelsuns collum l8r at 9:30?" "ye m8, wot is ur full naym n adress agen?" "n wear will u be 4 da next 3 hours?" "we r so terrorists. we blow sh*t up n go 'yalla yalla' all da tym"

later at MI5:

"We have reason to believe that a terrorist attack was to take place l8r at nelsun's collum. Fortunately, with the help of our uber-database, we caught the terrorists, who were utterly flabbergasted that we found them out."

I want no part of their ridiculous surveillance society, fortunately they're so useless, staying out of the evil all seeing eye of this thing will be easy, and probably the only way to ensure your entire life doesn't end up on a usb key in the pocket of some dodgy telemarketer in Bangladesh.

This is what the terrorists want us to do, these are the actions of a scared nation. The terrorists don't want to kill us all (well, theoretically) they want to scare us into doing what they want us to. Why are we letting the terrorists win?

I think more people die each year of cancer than of terrorism. So why not give the £12 billion to cancer research? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SirronTM (talk • contribs) 21:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Unethical, But...
Well yes I believe in comparison to the high standards of democracy in America (cough, cough)this is a violation of the people's rights. However, as I have nothing to hide and because I don't live in the UK, it's not that voluminous of an ordeal. It is when the government surpasses this boundary that i shall be wary. So what about you guys?

 * "As I have nothing to hide"? So that makes draconian and intrusive violations of privacy alright then? Being suspected of terrorist activity is a reasonable justification for the government to place a tap on your phone; being a citizen of the United Kingdom is not. --128.243.253.113 00:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.229.152.103 (talk) 22:23, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

What I don't understand is that both the telegraph and the times online suggest that it could be used to view encrypted traffic. Is this bad journalism, a massive, previously unknown hole in https/ssl or just an encryption=terrorism point of view? 144.82.194.253 15:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


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Of Course
Of course they are saying that the truck crossed over the line that way they wont have to put any fault on their employees. They dont want to admit that a could possibly be the reason that these seven people are dead. They just want to put the blame on who ever they can. Chris Holloway--70.222.37.173 16:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


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Worldwide markets fall precipitously

October 6, 2008

Stock markets around the world have fallen dramatically today. This is following the ongoing events in the financial world, including the US Government's $700 billion bail out of the financial sector.

As of 14:48 UTC, the primary UK index, the FTSE 100, dropped in value by 6.50% (323.65 points) to a point even further below the 5000 mark at 4656.60. The Dow Jones, was down 3.76% at 16:08 UTC, a slight increase from earlier today. The Dow Jones currently has a value of 9936.94 points, below the ten thousand mark. The Nasdaq index has fallen by 100.12 points to 1847.27, while the DAX was 6.62% lower than the start of the day as of 16:08 UTC.

The Dow Jones index was one that fared particularly poorly today, as not one of its companies increased its share price. The same is true for the CAC 40 index. The Merval index is another one that fared badly today. It dropped in value by 10.12%, while the affiliated Merval 25 index dropped by nearly as much, 10.03%. One of the worst faring indexes of the day was the Brazilian Bovespa index. It has already fallen by 14.45% today, despite the fact that it is not even half way through the trading day.

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{Along with the five major political parties, there are many minor federal parties in Canada. Wikinews spoke to one of the party leaders. Which party registered with Elections Canada does Liz White represent? - Newfoundland and Labrador First Party - People's Political Power of Canada + Animal Alliance Environmental Voters Party of Canada - Western Block Party
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 * See CanadaVOTES: Animal Alliance (AAEVPC) party leader Liz White running in Toronto Centre. Other than the Christian Heritage Party, no other party leaders have replied with comment.

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Report says disappearing life threatens biodiversity

October 7, 2008

A global review of threatened species by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) indicates drastic decline of animal and plant life. This includes a quarter of all mammals, one out of eight birds, one out of three  amphibians and 70 percent of plants.

The report, Red List of Threatened Species, is published by IUCN every year. Additionally a global assessment of the health of the world's species is released once in four years. The data is compiled by 1,700 experts in 130 countries.

The key findings of the report were announced today at the World Conservation Congress being held in Barcelona, Spain. The congress, held every four years, will deliberate over the next 10 days actions required to slow the rate of species extinction.

The survey includes 44,838 species of wild fauna and  flora, out of which 16,928 species are threatened with extinction. Among the threatened, 3,246 are tagged critically endangered, the highest category of threat. Another 4,770 species are endangered and 8,912 vulnerable to extinction.

The latest review includes a survey covering all 5,487 mammal species, out of which 1,141 are considered threatened with extinction. The study notes 79 percent of primate species in South and Southeast Asia are threatened with extinction. This companion study on mammals is being published this week in the journal Science.

"Our results paint a bleak picture of the global status of mammals worldwide," Jan Schipper, lead author and his co-authors said in the mammalian study. "We estimate that one in four species is threatened with extinction and that the population of one in two is declining."

However there is some cheer for the conservationists. It is revealed that 5% of the currently threatened species are recovering, including the European bison and black-footed ferret.

"We are now emerging from the Dark Ages of conservation knowledge, when we relied on data from a highly restricted subset of species," says Jonathan Baillie, director of conservation programmes at the Zoological Society of London. "We will expand the scope further to include a far broader range of groups, thus informing and assisting policy-makers in a hugely more objective and representative manner."


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Market Data
I think we should not subst the template until after the markets close today. It's somewhat useful to have it update the American markets. Thoughts? --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 18:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Anonymous101talk 18:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

"particularly those in the United States and the United Kingdom"
The data table shows steep declines for the French, Dutch and Italian stock markets; is this anglosaxon POV? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:26, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * When I wrote the aritcle it was US/UK but now it's worldwide, so I'll remove it. Anonymous101talk 20:27, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


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Talk:Witnesses: Doomed train had green light

So far this article is secondary coverage based on the Los Angeles Times and CBS Channel 2 websites as primary sources. This is what we need to do to add value to the article:  Original reporting: have somebody who lives or works in the area photograph the signal from the railroad platform. Background information: Include a tutorial on how railroad signals work, with particular emphasis on the signaling system in use on the Metrolink line. Expert knowledge: include more detailed information on failure modes of railway signals.  Until this can be done, the article is merely a paraphrase of the work of others. 69.140.152.55 17:58, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Unless you know someone who is in LA - likely you wont get a picture of _the signal_ involved (at least not in time to publish this). Why not use a generic image or one of the other several crash images. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 21:07, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * There must be some WikiNews editors in the L.A. metro area. A photo of the signal in question adds value to the article by establishing the specific type of signal involved, and allowing readers to judge for themselves whether the signal is clearly visible, or is obscured and difficult to read.  Otherwise this article is just a summary of Los Angeles Times coverage, with minimal supplementation from other online sources.  (If the picture already exists, the question then becomes “how can we obtain copyright permission?”)  69.140.152.55 03:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Huh?
Chadswith where? What state? Does Wikinews have witnesses? Since no, title should be "witnesses say". Doomed train, where? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 16:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The article originally said "Chatsworth, California," but California was removed by the peer reviewer as redundant. I put it back. 69.140.152.55 22:14, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Now the city name appears twice in the same sentence. That is redundancy that should be removed. 69.140.152.55 04:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


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We're screwed. --Poisonous (talk) 19:09, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Great a world wide Depression and a Global war on terror what a fracking mix.--KDP3 (talk) 20:41, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Arg
I know this is valid where it was written, but seeing the DJIA at "9.955" is horrifying. 68.39.174.238 21:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Bailout
Lot of good the bailout seems to have done. C'valyi d'Jade (talk) 21:26, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

The bailout, and the scummy way it was passed(as in, didn't. Then add another hundred billion worth of pork, then it DOES pass despite the protests of the citizenry), is probably part of the reason people are taking money out of the market now. It's really not the best thing to have done -_- It'll cause further problems, not solve them.67.193.146.210 00:09, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I hear that the CEO's are getting most of the money.67.189.117.97 02:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

OUCH
Ow, Ow, Ow! Holy crap, ETA to depression? -Sidorvich (talk)

It won't spoil my day. —Aless.mac (talk) 11:37, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

ooga booga —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.231.91.178 (talk) 03:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

What kind of stock market bear are you?
I'm a grizzly. I'm all brown and furred up, and I like keeping me stocks in me woods when markets fizzle like this. 204.52.215.6 23:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:OJ Simpson found guilty in kidnapping, armed robbery case

OJ Simpson never squat with your spurs on!!!!!!!!!
I don't know that he killed Nichole and Ron Goldman, I do not dare say he did not. This trial was in Nev and was totally disconnected from Calif the evidence was clear he intened to recover objects by force if necessary. Desperate and in need of money he decided to play cops and robbers and guess who got caught as the robber? I feel sorry for this man a 61 year old legend. I grew up watching him and what happened? Tom Scotto did not do Simpson any favors by lying on the witness stand about the 50,000 extorted by alexandar and mc'clinton. This crime was stupid, if the objects belonged to him when he entered the room and saw them he should have called the police. However, these objects did not belong to him and therefore here we are convicted. Lawyers tried to paint the fellas who helped him in a bad light but really all they did was throw more dirt on their client Mr. Simpson. We just get so busy doing things that we forget to stop and think about what and why were doing them. He will have plenty of time to wonder what and why for a man that once had it all now all he has is time! article title

Agreed
I totally agree with the above comment, and I am surprised (and relieved) that none of the hateful stuff has appeared yet, as I'm sure it eventually will. No one has been able to prove that O.J. ever killed anybody, although if he had, there should have been physical evidence littered all over the crime scene. For one thing, he doesn't strike me as one that is smart enough to have done a very good job in covering up a a murder scene involving a knife attack. Besides the fact that the perpetrator had to kill two very athletic people who undoubtedly put up a fight -- it's just plain messy. Therefore there had to be DNA all over the place (and yes, DNA technology did exist in '94).

For those who argue that he did lose the civil case, I'd like to remind them that the difference between criminal guilt and civil guilt is that to be criminally convicted, the crime must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt -- while to be found civilly liable, the jury must only find a "preponderance of evidence" (51% probability) that the person was responsible. Given that he did not have to physically kill anyone to be found civilly liable, coupled with a very biased court of public opinion, in which many people perceived he got away with murder (though it was never proven) -- we thus can see why he could be found both innocent and guilty at the same time.

Although I believe O.J. is not the most intelligent of people, I still do not believe he is the one that killed Goldman or Brown. It is just as plausible to me that drug dealers did it, since at the time it was no secret that both O.J. and Nicole were alleged drug users. It also seems unlikely to me that he could have succeeded at killing them both by himself. He is a FORMER NFL star, but his body is so wracked with football injuries that I find it unlikely he could have done it. I always did believe that there were multiple assailants.

As for the book "If I Did It," it may have been an attempt by O.J. to explain why it did not make sense that he would be the killer. If the Goldman family were so outraged by the book, then they should have let him publish it and allow the American public to judge for themselves. If it were a confession as they claim, then why not let him confess? If it was an argument about why he is innocent, then let us see that too. Although I am sorry for the Goldmans' loss, I also believe they have been blinded by their anger. It would not be the first time that victims have unfairly placed blame on the wrong person, as the Innocence Project has proven many times through DNA exonerations.

Now, regarding his CURRENT legal woes -- I feel that it actually offers further insight into his character. He obviously felt wronged, but instead of going through the proper channels, he took the law into his own hands. Again, it's a stark example of limited intelligence, as he should have known by now that the smartest thing he could do is completely keep his nose clean, as there are many people that hate him and would jump at the opportunity to throw the book at him. Also, if he wanted to convince anybody of his innocence of the aforementioned murders, the last thing he should have done was commit a crime involving a handgun. Even so, to me this is still not evidence that he committed the murders before. -- Preferring Anonymity —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.173.226.236 (talk) 21:09, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Its a shame!
The Justice system was on trial here and they failed. Clearly Simpson just wanted some personal effects returned, requested help from the Las Vegas Police Department but was denied and while the perpetrators who brought the weapons were given a pass to lie on Simpson so that they may go home reminded me of the lynching in the south its just modern day lynching. I am truly embarrassed for Las Vegas and more importantly for this great country the low some people will go to get a win, its sad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by William47 (talk • contribs) 04:42, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

OJ Simpson
OJ Simpson was a good football player, until those murders.

reap what you sow
I am a professional black man in this racist white America,but I do hold myself to a higher degree of manhood, and not give them, what most whites expect from black people, total ignorance, and stupidity. O.J. has displayed both, and his arrogance is what placed him where he is today, NOT racism.

What most people don't understand, is what the word of God states; "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap" Galatians 6:7

It also states: "Romans 12:19 - Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

OJ received what he gave! and he did it at his own hands. This white woman would be alive today had OJ had not try to avenge himself.

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Talk:Report says disappearing life threatens biodiversity

This looks done, please set it to review so I can review it. :) --Poisonous (talk) 21:18, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Please do, as suggested.--  T harikrish  Talk 07:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

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How does "disappearing life" threaten biodiversity? Is it going to take us all down with it.

Once you get over the sarcasm in the above, please come up with a more accurate title. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

 * Sorry for the late reaction. I was waiting for the review, as suggested above. I requested the same here - talk. No sarcasm was indented. Sorry if you or Poisonous felt offended. Now, regarding the title. Disappearing life "reduces" biodiversity. Scientists say reduced biodiversity is a "... silent epidemic that could wreck our planet's ability to heal itself." They find "...these extinctions particularly worrisome because a diversity of species helps stabilize the planet. Each extinction can disrupt this balance and ripple through the food chain, making it more difficult for other species, including humans, to survive." Factors that threaten biodiversity are "...habitat destruction, overkill, introduced species and secondary extensions [?]". Extinction of a large number of species - mass extinction - threaten biodiversity. Since inaccuracy is pointed out, let me suggest a new title - "A large number of species on the verge of extinction, says study". Please comment.--  T harikrish  Talk 16:24, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds right to me...reviewing --Poisonous (talk) 16:37, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Review
Since you aren't in irc this is more difficult, can someone see if there are differing opinions of the report? Maybe someone who doesn't agree with it? To make it more neutral? --Poisonous (talk) 16:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I am, now.--  T harikrish  Talk 16:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * But I can't locate you there (irc).--  T harikrish  Talk 17:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Review

 * It is here. Source #3. Second review requested.--  T harikrish  Talk 17:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


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I have opinions; many, many opinions.

I am cynical.

Therefore I am realistic.

I have no faith that the British government can do anything right.

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Comments:Mother, daughter accused of stealing of husband's $3.5 million lottery ticket

I belive what we have here is a failure to communicate.

obviously, most people would do such things for 3.5million. ask any police officer, judge, or any polictical power. ' If you had the oppertunity, wouldnt you do it? '. I'm not saying it was right, but punishment shouldnt be severe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.21.180 (talk) 08:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


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US presidential candidate Barack Obama has 50% support

October 9, 2008

United States presidential candidate Barack Obama now has 50% support in the polls. John McCain had a statistical lead over Barack Obama after the Republican National Convention. However, since the middle of September, Barack Obama's polls have risen and he has recaptured the lead. Tuesday was the first day Obama received 50% or more support in the Day to Day Politics Poll Average since it began back in mid July. Barack Obama now has 50.1% support and John McCain has 43.6% support - a 6.5% difference with a margin of error of 0.70%.

This is the largest lead Barack Obama has had in the past three months. The last time Obama's lead was near this high was September 1, 2008 when it was 6.0% after the Democratic National Convention. For the past three weeks, the Gallup and Rasmussen three day tracking polls have held a lead for Obama.

According to the Gallup poll, their latest poll ties the largest lead that Obama has had in the previous three months, when it reached 9.0% at the end of Obama's international trip in late July. The Gallup three day tracking poll, the Rasmussen three day tracking poll, and the latest CNN poll all have Barack Obama over 50%. There are still a Day to Day Politics Poll Average of 6.3% of voters who have not committed to Barack Obama or John McCain.


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Icelandic Internet bank suspends UK accounts

October 7, 2008

The Icelandic internet bank, Icesave, has suspended all 300,000 of its UK customer accounts, leaving account holders in the United Kingdom unable to withdraw or deposit any funds. A message on its website posted this morning states:

'' "We are not currently processing any deposits or any withdrawal requests through our Icesave internet accounts. We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause our customers. We hope to provide you with more information shortly." ''

The internet bank, owned by the Icelandic bank, Landsbanki (Landsbankinn), which was recently nationalised in an attempt to rescue it, has been hit by the global financial crisis. Reports from the United Kingdom suggest that the traders and city are preparing for the parent company to be declared insolvent, leaving customers to recover their monies through a financial compensation scheme being backed by the Icelandic Government. The plan will cover the first € 20,887 (Approx £16,300 / $28,720), the remainder of the customers funds being recovered through the UK's own financial compensation system.

Following the decision to nationalise Landsbanki, the Icelandic Prime Minister, Geir Haarde, who introduced and signed the emergency legislation into law, stated:

"What we are doing here is saving a banking system - saving the domestic banking system - and making sure that it can function properly. And I think, also, through our declaration on domestic deposits in these banks and saving institutions, we have been able to avoid a run on the banks here, and therefore prevent it."

In describing and explaining its actions in nationalising the bank, the Icelandic Financial Supervisory Authority issued this brief statement:

"Based on new legislation, the Icelandic Financial Supervisory Authority (IFSA) proceeds to take control of Landsbanki to ensure continued commercial bank operations in Iceland. Domestic deposits are fully guaranteed, as declared by the government. Landsbanki's domestic branches, call centres, cash machines and internet operations will be open for business as usual."

In response to the deepening world financial situation, the Dutch government has this afternoon increased its savers protection from €38,000 to €80,000 effective immediately, to help secure the financial status of its savers within Holland. Icesave also has a Dutch branch, icesave.nl - their website was unreachable at the time of this article.


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Tattoo with identifying details leads to prosecution of thief in Bristol, UK

October 7, 2008 A thief in Bristol, United Kingdom, has been prosecuted due to incriminating evidence in the form of a tattoo on his neck with his name and date of birth that was captured by police CCTV, when he was in the process of stealing a Satellite navigation system in a car planted by police to find criminals.

Aarron Evans, the thief, today pleaded guilty to charges of theft at Bristol Magistrates' Court. He is aged 21 and he is illiterate and has no fixed address.

The sentence was for seven months imprisonment.

Ian Wylie, who is police superintendent for the Bristol district commented on the incident. "Criminals won't be tolerated in Bristol and we will keep catching them and bringing them before the courts," he said. "We get such excellent images from these cameras that there is often, and never more so than in this case, no doubt who the criminal is and what they are doing. When faced with such evidence, there is no other way to go than 'guilty'."

"The photographs don't just lead us to the person breaking into the car either. Further police work has also led us on many occasions to the handlers of the stolen property and people the car criminal is working with. We have also received information from members of the public through Crimestoppers where they have reported stolen property being sold on the streets, door-to-door or in local pubs," Wylie continued. "The covert car has been a magnificent asset to the teams working to reduce car crime happening and those arresting car criminals. "

"We will continue to play our part but members of the public can still help us in reducing the opportunity for thieves; don't leave valuables on display in your vehicle and, better still; take them out of the car completely."


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Talk:US presidential candidate Barack Obama has 50% support

 * Um disagree? Reporting new polling data is newsworthy. It might not be very newsworthy (or might not strike you as as interesting) but a lot of people pay attention to this sort of data and care about it. JoshuaZ (talk) 17:44, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with JoshuaZ. Also as to the point about poor accuracy : That is kind of addressed, in the article, by giving up a figure : '..a margin of error of 0.70%.' In addition what Wikinews needs is more news, not less, at least for the moment.  By stopping stories like this or letting them hang in a limbo until they are certainly not fresh anymore, potential contributors are scared away. I have seen many other articles published that I would judge as less newsworthy than the article here.  I have recently experienced this as a (potential) contributor, and would like a fair review on my recent article that is marked as ready to publish and can be found in the Newsroom : Nobel Peace Prize misused says Norwegian lawyer and activist. BalansR (talk) 13:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with both of the comments made here. This is very newsworthy and we have had very few articles on this topic. I'm going to go ahead and publish this since it does meet all the criteria. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 14:01, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


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Stock markets worldwide continue to fall

October 7, 2008

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Stock markets around the world continued to fall dramatically today. This is following the ongoing events in the financial world, including the US Government's $700 billion bail out of the financial sector.

As of 18:00 UTC, the primary UK index, the FTSE 100, was one of the few indexes to increase in value. It went up by 0.16% (16.03 points), but stayed below 5000 mark at 4605.22. Some shares in this index, however, fared very poorly, with shares in HBOS falling by an incredible 41.54% to end the day on 94 points.

The Dow Jones index continued to fall today, and, as of 18:00 UTC, it had fallen 260.77 points, or 2.62% to 9694.73, continuing its run below 10,000. Bank of America fared worse, with a fall of 17.38%.

The Nasdaq index also fell dramatically today, down 2.95% (54.97 points) to 1807.99 points. YRC Worldwide, Inc. was the biggest faller in this index, with its loss of 27.30% that took the company's share price down to 5.13.

Dana Perino, a spokesperson for the White House, commented today on the recent falls in the stock market that are described above. "One of the things that the President can do is to remind them what this rescue package would do. One of the most important things that it would do is to make sure that everybody knows that their bank deposit is safe, insured by the FDIC, and the legislation allowed for a temporary increase from $100,000 to $250,000. This reassures people that their bank accounts are safe, and that's an important message," she stated, trying to reassure citizens.

"But remember, with this rescue package, we asked the American people to do a really big thing and commit a lot of money in order to help prevent the credit freeze from affecting everybody lower on down the food chain. And to that extent, yes, the President thinks that it's important that they hear from the President of the United States about how he understands that nobody wanted to do this legislation, however, it was the right thing to do. And now that we've done it, the most important thing is that Treasury move in the most expeditious way possible, to be efficient and to be effective, to make sure that the plan will do what it's supposed to do and un-freeze these credit markets."


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Nobel Peace Prize misused says Norwegian lawyer and activist

October 9, 2008

Just three days before the announcement for Nobel's Peace Prize, Norwegian lawyer and activist Fredrik Heffermehl released a book Nobels vilje (Nobel's Will). The book is a critical assessment of the prize's history and the political committee and process which now awards the prize. Heffermehl compares the works of all the Peace Prize Laureates to date with his interpretation of the intentions and will of the prize's founder.

In the book, the author asserts that Stortinget (the Norwegian Parliament), has in effect broken Norwegian and Swedish law by failing to follow the intentions of Nobel's will. It is the Norwegian parliament which selects the five members of the committee which decide on the recipients of the Peace Prize.

Alfred Nobel was a Swedish chemist and industrialist that built a fortune on dynamite after having invented it and patented the process. Alfred Nobel spent many years finalising his will, and had close contact with Bertha von Suttner, an upper-class peace activist, during parts of the process. While Swedish institutions were trusted with the choosing of recipients of prizes for chemistry, physics, medicine and literature, Nobel decided that a Norwegian institution should choose the recipient of the price for peace. Heffermehl claims that the reason was the anti-militaristic stance of leading forces in the Norwegian parliament. One year prior to his death, Nobel finalised his will in 1895.

The relevant portion of the will, stating the criteria for what has later become known as the Nobel Peace Prize is :
 * "och en del åt den som har verkat mest eller best för folkens förbrödrande och afskaffande eller minskning af stående armeer samt bildande och spridande af fredskongresser."Swedish
 * "and one part to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."English translation

According to Heffermehl, prior to World War II about 85% of recipients were awarded in accordance with the will, but since the end of the war only 45% of the recipients fit the criteria. Recent recipients Al Gore and the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change do not suit the requirements, according to the author. Neither do Muhammad Yunus and his Grameen Bank, nor Wangari Maathai.

"Disarmament and anti-militarism was what Nobel wanted to promote," says Heffermehl to Aftenposten.

Geir Lundestad, Director of the Nobel Institute and secretary of the Norwegian Nobel Committee has said he does not wish to enter into a debate with Heffermehl due to potential political and legal actions from Heffermehl.

Heffermehl denies having any plans for political or legal action: In Aftenposten he is quoted as saying to the newsagency NTB : "I have no idea what Lundestad is thinking of. I have no plans about taking action, legal or political, against the Committee. This is not an attack, but an exhortation to look at a number of questions".

Critical disputes and protests of Nobel Prize awards, especially of the Peace prize, are as predictable as the prize itself. Of particular note has been that Mahatma Gandhi never received the prize, but the committee tacitly admitted this error when in 1948, the year of Gandhi's death, they elected to not award the Peace Prize saying "there was no suitable living candidate", referring to an interpretation of Nobel's will, to the effect that the prizes be awarded to living persons. It should be noted, however, that Dag Hammarskjöld was given the award shortly after his death in 1961, having died in (peacemaking) action as it were.

The Danish newspaper "Information" has received further comments from the chairman of the Nobel Committee, Ole Danbolt Mjøs. His reply is in three parts: Firstly, the Committee has interpreted the three items in the portion of the will describing the scope of the price as three separate items, and they are confident that they can be interpreted separate from each other, each as a sufficient criteria for the prize. Heffermehl contends that they should primarily be seen as an integral whole. Secondly, the committee chairman points to the tradition that has evolved. Lastly he also says that deliberate re-interpretations and widening of the criteria for the prize has taken place during the latter years, in view of a modern understanding of the underpinnings of peace.


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Nobel Peace Prize committee disrespect the primary intentions of Alfred Nobel
Hi, Wikinews writes things from a neutral neutral point of view. Thus, we don't take opinions on issues. I suggest you read our neutral point of view guideline linked above and then rewrite this article. Thanks. JoshuaZ (talk) 18:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok Thanks. I though I was quite balanced. The strongish points were only based on the clear text of the will. But I have tried to soften it all the same. BalansR (talk) 19:06, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

 * Hi! Please do not remove a dispute tag until you have talked with others who agree the issues have been resolved; preferably those who originally tagged the article. -  Amgine | t 02:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I reviewed the article and passed it. Very interesting article. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 14:42, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

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Comments:Tattoo with identifying details leads to prosecution of thief in Bristol, UK

What a doofus

23?
Is he 23 or 21? the tattoo appears to say 19-09-87..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.237.179.84 (talk) 21:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


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Frog-killing fungus spreads across Panama Canal towards South America

October 8, 2008

South America, the current hot-spot for describing new frog species, may be in danger of seeing population declines due to an. A recent scientific paper has found the mysterious fungal disease,, has begun to establish into eastward Panama, heading across the boundary towards Colombian  populations. The publication predicts that at the current rate, the will spread into   before 2012. The chytrid fungus is believed to be the leading cause of population mortality of amphibians. Species like the (Colostethus panamensis) are succumbing to the effects of the pathogen at an alarming rate. For the last 30 years, the infection has decimated amphibian communities, mostly because of increased temperatures resulting from climate change.

The culprit skin fungus, , is still not fully understood. It can be transmitted by touch, including contact with other amphibians and even rocks and water. Not only has it decimated frogs, salamanders and caecilians in the Americas, but has affected tropical Australia and Asia as well. Scientists think that the fungus may have come from an African (Xenopus sp.), because of its worldwide popularity in the pet trade.

Captive breeding programs, like are preparing for the worst. There are still many species in the jungles of Central and South America that have not been properly documented, and could be fated to be studied after extinction.