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Talk:Ontario Votes 2007: Interview with Libertarian candidate Mark Scott, Toronto—Danforth

Raw interview
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>From: "Nick Moreau"  >To: ... >Subject: Interview regarding campaign, for Wikinews >Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:13:10 -0400 > >Hello, > >I am a senior writer for Wikinews, a collaborative news agency, sistered to >the encyclopedia website Wikipedia. Wikipedia is the 10th most visited site >worldwide, with 3000 articles served per second. > >My questions are purposely open-ended, as to let you the candidate decide >what issues to talk about. As there are many specific issues that I hold >personally important, this is the clearest way to avoid creating an >editorial bias. > >The questions for this interview are attached as a Microsoft Word document, >and pasted at the bottom of this email. You may answer in the Word file, or >in the email itself, either method is fine. > >Interviews will be published individually as they come, up until the >Saturday before the election. Obviously, early return is much appreciated, >as I am interviewing candidates in all 107 ridings, meaning upwards of 500 >possible respondents. Your interviews will be published with a link to your >website, and to your party's website. All interviews must be conducted >electronically. As with anyone writing for Wikinews or Wikipedia, I'm a >volunteer, and so I'm seriously restricted for time. I will do my best to >answer all questions in a timely manner, but cannot guarantee immediate >response. > >As with all content published in Wikipedia and Wikinews, the articles are >available under "free licenses", meaning we actively encourage their >reprinting in any medium. Bloggers are more likely to want to reprint a >Wikinews article or excerpt, than official campaign material. Wikinews >articles have been quoted by the Toronto Star and Toronto Metro newspapers, >and are referenced throughout the blogosphere. > >Many thanks, >Nick Moreau > >Reporter >Wikinews > >Email: wikinews.ontario.election@gmail.com >Gtalk: nicholasmoreau > > > > > >Why have you chosen to involve yourself in the political process? Why did >you choose to run in this constituency? A: I have Three children who will be left with the debt of our current government mismanagement. I live in this riding and believe in the responsibility of membership and elections are the point of decision for change. > >What prior political experience do you have? What skills and insight can >you >bring to office, from other non-political positions you may have held? A: I have studied the Objectivist Philosophy and Personal Empowerment. I am a student of life and know that any freedom has the responsibility included. > >Which of your competitors do you expect to pose the biggest challenge to >your candidacy? Why? A: I have entered this election to present myself as a Leader, The other candidates are their own challenge to prove themselves worthy of Leadership. > >What makes you the most desirable of all candidates running in the riding? A: I present an other point of view to seek change in Government Responsibility; Government is Responsible to Military, Police and Justice. Welfare of the people is the individuals responsibility. Faith is the individuals responsibility. Roads, Schools, Health, Wealth, Wisdom...individuals responsibility. Government needs to do the responsible monopoly they have been elected to have. The members of this province need to control the Government and hold the MPP's responsible to protect our right to own property, seek prosperity and behavior toward an other, by law. > >What do you feel are the three most important issues to voters in your >riding? Are these the same top three issues that are most important to you? A:Repeat of previous Answer. I present an other point of view to seek change in Government Responsibility; Government is Responsible to Military, Police and Justice. Welfare of the people is the individuals responsibility. Faith is the individuals responsibility. Roads, Schools, Health, Wealth, Wisdom...individuals responsibility. Government needs to do the responsible monopoly they have been elected to have. The members of this province need to control the Government and hold the MPP's responsible to protect our right to own property, seek prosperity and behavior toward an other, by law. >What would you do to address these issues? > >What should be the first order of business in the 39th Legislative >Assembly? Reform Government responsibilities, holding a MPP accountable to their actions. A crime is a crime. To mismanage the public authorities, mis-use of funds, deception, abuse of office... the position of Office is accountable as if they were a share holder in a Corporation. Because that is the position the MPP holds. > >Are the property taxes in your riding at a fair level for the amount of >services received in the municipality? A: Taxation is theft at this point in time. When our taxes are used to build anything that would be sold to private interests, that is theft of our money. I do not need a Sky Dome, Toll road Hospital Built by my taxes. I could have become a share holder in a venture to build these structures, I would have gain or lost in that venture, as share holders do. I would not have had to experience the theft of my money without recourse. > >How can the province lead the way in stimulating job creation? Let the free market develop itself. Create free-trade between provinces, countries, etc. > >What are your views on the mixed member proportional representation (MMP) >referendum? A: The more voices heard the greater the democracy. > >What role, if any, does "new media" play in your campaign, and the campaign >of your party? (websites, blogs, Facebook, YouTube videos, etc) Do you view >it as beneficial, or a challenge? A: The more voices heard the greater the democracy. > >Of the decisions made by Ontario's 38th Legislative Assembly, which was the >most beneficial to your this electoral district? To the province as a >whole? >Which was least beneficial, or even harmful, to your this riding? To the >province as a whole? A: I can not speak to your question, without a specific reference to an issue.

I would add this closing Message; Hello to the Citizens of Toronto-Danforth

My Name is Mark Scott,

I am your Libertarian Choice for Creative Warrior

in this Election and Referendum

A caring Force for Change   is Vital to your Future,

The Current Government has an Agenda of

Confusion and Control.

Confusion of the important issues and Control of your Liberty

Faith is a Personal Choice     Politics are a Personal Choice

Libertarian Policy is Personal Responsibility,

Personal Commitment and Personal Choice.

Government is only Responsible to Protect

our Property and Right to Prosper

The Prime Directive of Government  is Military,  Police, and Justice

Your Vote is Important,  One Vote,   Your Vote,

Will make a Change for Better Government

My name is Mark Scott,

I support The Libertarian Choice in Toronto-Danforth

In this election, Just Consider,   the Force, of your Choice

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Bomb-like device attached to Florida bank teller amid robbery

September 26, 2007 Police in Hollywood, Florida, United States are investigating a strange bank robbery involving a bomb-like device being attached to a bank teller.

Law enforcement sources said the bomb-like device was comprised of cylinders taped together with wires.

The bank teller said that yesterday three armed men came into his house in Dania Beach, Florida and strapped the fake bomb to him. The armed men ordered the man to rob the Wachovia bank in which the man works.

Hollywood police spokesman Tony Rode said the men questioned the teller about the bank's procedures hours before the robbery.

One of the armed men made the teller and his girlfriend drive to the bank at gunpoint. The teller entered the bank and removed over US$25,000. Once the armed man received the money, he drove away, leaving the teller and his girlfriend at the bank.

Video footage from CNN showed two police officers removing the device that had been strapped to the teller. A robot was then used to detonate and destroy the device.

Rode said police questioned the teller for hours, but said "There are a lot of holes, a lot of loose ends that we're not quite sure with..."Is this legit? Was this all a hoax? Is he truly a victim?"

Police are looking for the suspects based on some vague descriptions.

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Michael Vick placed under tighter restrictions after failing drug test

September 26, 2007 After testing positive for marijuana amid the latest drug test, former NFL star Michael Vick was placed under tighter restrictions by U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson.

Vick must be home between between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. and he must submit to random drug tests that will be conducted in the future.

Hudson also ordered that Vick may have to attend and pay for inpatient or outpatient substance therapy and mental health counseling if a supervising officer deems so.

A document filed in U.S. District Court today said Vick tested positive amid a urine sample that was submitted on September 13, 2007.

Vick is scheduled for sentencing on December 10 for bankrolling a dogfighting operation on his property.


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Students pass out forcing Michigan school to evacuate

September 26, 2007

A Catholic school in Michigan, United States was evacuated today after several students became sick during a church service.

Bloomfield Hills Public Safety Director Rick Matott said St. Hugo of the Hills Catholic School evacuated its 860 students around 9 a.m. EDT today. At least three children had passed out during the church service. Two children reportedly had to be taken to area hospitals.

Medical crews and hazardous material experts responded to the school to determine the cause of the illness. However, it is still not known what caused the students to become sick.

Students walked to the nearby Oakland Community College campus while they waited for their parents to pick them up.

St. Hugo of the Hills Catholic School is about 15 miles northwest of Detroit.


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ahah may use this letter for unis. --Mark Talk to me 20:52, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Boy survives flight in wheel well of Boeing 737

Accuracy?
I question this statement (whether it is from the sources or not):
 * Boeing 737 does not have an enclosed wheel well; the wheel merely retracts into an opening and remains exposed.

The photos provided clearly show that the wheel-well has "doors" that close after the wheel retracts. --SVTCobra 00:22, 27 September 2007 (UTC) Nevermind, I was looking at the front wheel and it appears he was on the wing wheel. --SVTCobra 01:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Pardeep Saini
In 1996, according to the Guardian Newspaper, Pardeep Saini survived a flight, in similar circumstances inside the wheel well of a plane, from Delhi to Heathrow, by going into suspended animation. His brother Vijay Saini, who had stowed on board the same plane, fell out of the wheel well and landed in a car park in London. Sounds unlikely but I read it in this Guardian article, dated July 18, 2001. Web address - http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,523278,00.html

I don't know if it was the front or wing wheels they were holding on to.


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Dr Karl to run for Australian senate

September 27, 2007 Dr Karl Kruszelnicki has announced that he will run for the Australian senate in the upcoming federal election. Kruszelnicki will be number two on the Climate Change Coalition's New South Wales Senate ticket.

"I'm in the business of communicating important ideas. I've dedicated my life to it. This is another way to continue that dedication. And I'm looking forward to the opportunity to talk about the big questions in a political context. The personal is political," Mr Kruszelnicki said in a media release.

According to his ABC bio, Kruszelnicki has worked as a physicist, labourer, roadie for bands, car mechanic, filmmaker, hospital scientific officer, biomedical engineer, TV weatherman, and medical doctor at The Kids Hospital in Sydney. However Dr Karl is best known for his work as a science commentator on Australian TV and radio.

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Scientists discover 11 new species of life in Vietnam

September 27, 2007

At least 11 new species of life have been discovered in the of  in Vietnam in a region of the forest described as the "." The discovery was made by researchers from the (WWF).

Among the new species are five and at least three other species of plants, two  and a snake. At least ten more species of plants are believed to be new species but are still being studied.

"You only discover so many new species in very special places, and the Green Corridor is one of them. Several large mammal species were discovered in the 1990s in the same forests, which means that these latest discoveries could be just the tip of the iceberg," said a technical adviser in Vietnam for the WWF, Chris Dickinson.

The new species of life are exclusive to the rainforest in Thua Thien-Hue Province.

The new snake, which can grow to 80 centimeters long, has been given the name  because of a yellow-white stripe on the top of its head and makes its home near small streams and feeds on small animals and.

The new species of butterflies are one subfamily of the species and the other a species of the.

The orchids, all of which are considered very rare because they were found to have no leaves whatsoever on the plant, grow in "matter" that is rotting and also contain no. The other two new plant species are of and.

The WWF is concerned that civilization may move closer into the rainforest, destroying the homes of these new species, but the government of Thua Thien-Hue Province says it's dedicated to making sure that they are protected, along with the rainforest.

"The area is extremely important for conservation and the province wants to protect the forests and their environmental services, as well as contribute to sustainable development," said Provincial Forest Protection Department Director for the province, Hoang Ngoc Khanh.

The species were found in the rainforest in 2005 and 2006.


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Talk:Dr Karl to run for Australian senate

news.com.au source
What's the point of adding the source from news.com.au? It's not a second source -- they've just written an article based on the Climate Change Coalition press release, just like we did. - Borofkin 01:25, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It's a second source. The bio doesn't serve as a source for his declaration of candidacy. Even if they too relied solely on the press release, at least it means that a news organization (other than Wikinews) considers it to be legitimate. If we were to accept press releases as sole and authoritative news sources, we'd be publishing lots of crazy stuff. --SVTCobra 01:30, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The source for his declaration of candidacy is the press release. We accept the press release as authorative because it came from the Climate Change Coalition website. If the news.com.au article had an independent source (such as an interview with Karl himself) then I agree that we could cite it as a second source. I think we should try to reduce our dependence on other news organisations. If we can verify the source ourselves (which I believe we can in this case) then we should use it. In my opinion we should only cite other news services as a last resort. - Borofkin 01:37, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't know the Climate Change Coalition from Adam. Just because they have a Wikipedia page doesn't mean they are legitimate. But actually, I do agree with you that we should seek out releases from the sources when available, and we ought to do this more than we currently do. However, I don't think it hurts to have some corroborating sources. --SVTCobra 01:49, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that it doesn't hurt -- I've no intention of removing it. I'd just like to see us thinking of ourselves as a serious news organisation. *We* write the news; *we* verify sources. The Climate Change Coalition source is there to be challenged. Unlike news.com.au, any of our readers can verify it themselves if they like, and tell us if they think it's bogus. - Borofkin 01:56, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


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"Halo 3" creates new opening day record

September 27, 2007 The long awaited finale in the "Halo" series, "Halo 3", has beaten the previous record of opening day sales held by "Spiderman 3" of US$151 million. In the United States, "Halo 3" got $170 million worth of retail sales in the opening day alone.

The game by Bungie Studios is available in 37 countries, which means the exact opening day figure will be much higher.

More than one million Xbox Live subscribers logged on to play "Halo 3" against each other over the Internet in the first 20 hours of launch, according to Microsoft Game Studio's corporate Vice-President, Shane Kim.

In comparison, "Halo 2", only sold $125 million on its first day of retail sales back in 2004. The first two "Halo" games have sold a combined total of 15 million copies.

It has been reported that Microsoft spent millions of dollars on marketing the third installment of the popular "Halo" series.

"Halo 3" was launched on September 25 at midnight in each time zone, New Zealand being the first country to play the game, followed by Australia.

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Law Council of Australia criticises both parties on legal aid

September 27, 2007

The Law Council of Australia has criticised both major parties for failing to commit to increases in legal aid funding. The LCA said that the Greens and Democrats have both committed to an immediate increase of $140 million, but that Labor and the Coalition are still yet to make any commitment.

Law Council President Tim Bugg said, “The Budget surplus in 2006/07 was $17.3 billion; this year it is projected to be $10.6 billion – yet we’re supposed to accept that a fraction of this amount cannot be spared to assist less fortunate Australians pursue their right to justice.”

An Australian Democrats policy document says that low levels of legal aid funding results in poorer Australians receiving a reduced level of justice from the legal system. "This has increased community frustration with the legal system, which undermines respect for the rule of law," the document says. The document commits the Democrats to, "an urgent injection of Commonwealth funding into legal aid and community legal centres."

The Greens policy document commits to "adequate funding" of legal aid, but does not specifically call for an increase in funding.


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Comments:Ontario Votes 2007: Interview with Progressive Conservative candidate Penny Lucas, Kenora—Rainy River

I don't give a crap about Ontario debate candidates. This should not take up five slots on the front page.

 * You may not, but other people might care. That's the joy of wikinews. Lyellin 04:20, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I am not arguing that it is not news. I am arguing that it shouldn't be five slots of news. It's practically spam.
 * The issue is problematic, we should have this many stories from every country on a specific topic and too much news to go on the front page. We don't, so the mechanisms in place for stories mean that when one reporter submits a batch of stories they all show up at once. If we ever get up into the hundreds of regular contributors there will be a process implemented to maintain the entire front page - not just rely on DPLs. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:35, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Transport for London wins first Anti-Social Behaviour Order against graffiti vandal

Wikinews needs a policy on photos of underage criminals/suspects (including possibly separate policies for before/after conviction) Sherurcij refusing to add Original Reporting until PD Articles are allowed'' 03:02, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Why you are so harsh with him, why dont you try to have a counsling with him and give him a treatement to him psychologically. He is a 17 year old guy, he knows only to play not enough matured. If you are going to punish him like this i am sure he is not going to come up good in future.


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John Vanderslice plays New York City: Wikinews interview

September 27, 2007 John Vanderslice has recently learned to enjoy America again. The singer-songwriter, who National Public Radio called "one of the most imaginative, prolific and consistently rewarding artists making music today," found it through an unlikely source: his French girlfriend. "For the first time in my life I wouldn't say I was defending the country but I was in this very strange position..."

Since breaking off from San Francisco local legends, mk Ultra, Vanderslice has produced six critically-acclaimed albums. His most recent, Emerald City, was released July 24th. Titled after the nickname given to the American-occupied Green Zone in Baghdad, it chronicles a world on the verge of imminent collapse under the weight of its own paranoia and loneliness. David Shankbone recently went to the Bowery Ballroom and spoke with Vanderslice about music, photography, touring and what makes a depressed liberal angry.

DS: How is the tour going?
 * JV: Great!  I was just on the Wiki page for Inland Empire, and there is a great synopsis on the film. What's on there is the best thing I have read about that film.  The tour has been great.  The thing with touring: say you are on vacation...let's say you are doing an intense vacation.  I went to Thailand alone, and there's a part of you that just wants to go home.  I don't know what it is.  I like to be home, but on tour there is a free floating anxiety that says: Go Home.  Go Home.

DS: Anywhere, or just outside of the country?
 * JV: Anywhere.  I want to be home in San Francisco, and I really do love being on tour, but there is almost like a homing beacon inside of me that is beeping and it creates a certain amount of anxiety.

'''DS: I can relate:  You and I have moved around a lot, and we have a lot in common. Pranks, for one. David Bowie is another.'''
 * JV: Yeah, I saw that you like David Bowie on your MySpace.

'''DS: When I was in college I listened to him nonstop. Do you have a favorite album of his?'''
 * JV: I loved all the things from early to late seventies.  Hunky Dory to Low to "Heroes" to Lodger.  Low changed my life.  The second I got was Hunky Dory, and the third was Diamond Dogs, which is a very underrated album.  Then I got Ziggy Stardust and I was like, wow, this is important...this means something.  There was tons of music I discovered in the seventh and eighth grade that I discovered, but I don't love, respect and relate to it as much as I do Bowie.  Especially Low...I was just on a panel with Steve Albini about how it has had a lot of impact.

'''DS: You said seventh and eighth grade. Were you always listening to people like Bowie or bands like the Velvets, or did you have an Eddie Murphy My Girl Wants to Party All the Time phase?'''
 * JV: The thing for me that was the uncool music, I had an older brother who was really into prog music, so it was like Gentle Giant and Yes and King Crimson and Genesis.  All the new Genesis that was happening at the time was mind-blowing.  Phil Collins's solo record...we had every single solo record, like the Mike Rutherford solo record.

DS: Do you shun that music now or is it still a part of you?
 * JV: Oh no, I appreciate all music.  I'm an anti-snob.  Last night when I was going to sleep I was watching Ocean's Thirteen on my computer.  It's not like I always need to watch some super-fragmented, fucked-up art movie like Inland Empire.  It's part of how I relate to the audience.  We end every night by going out into the audience and playing acoustically, directly, right in front of the audience, six inches away—that is part of my philosophy.

DS: Do you think New York or San Francisco suffers from artistic elitism more?
 * JV: I think because of the Internet that there is less and less elitism; everyone is into some little superstar on YouTube and everyone can now appreciate now Justin Timberlake.  There is no need for factions.  There is too much information, and I think the idea has broken down that some people...I mean, when was the last time you met someone who was into ska, or into punk, and they dressed the part?  I don't meet those people anymore.

'''DS: Everything is fusion now, like cuisine. It's hard to find a purely French or purely Vietnamese restaurant. '''
 * JV: Exactly!  When I was in high school there were factions.  I remember the guys who listened to Black Flag.  They looked the part!  Like they were in theater.

DS: You still find some emos.
 * JV: Yes, I believe it.  But even emo kids, compared to their older brethren, are so open-minded.  I opened up for Sunny Day Real Estate and Pedro the Lion, and I did not find their fans to be the cliquish people that I feared, because I was never playing or marketed in the emo genre.  I would say it's because of the Internet.

'''DS: You could clearly create music that is more mainstream pop and be successful with it, but you choose a lot of very personal and political themes for your music. Are you ever tempted to put out a studio album geared toward the charts just to make some cash?'''
 * JV: I would say no.  I'm definitely a capitalist, I was an econ major and I have no problem with making money, but I made a pact with myself very early on that I was only going to release music that was true to the voices and harmonic things I heard inside of me—that were honestly inside me—and I have never broken that pact.  We just pulled two new songs from Emerald City because I didn't feel they were exactly what I wanted to have on a record.  Maybe I'm too stubborn or not capable of it, but I don't think...part of the equation for me: this is a low stakes game, making indie music.  Relative to the world, with the people I grew up with and where they are now and how much money they make.  The money in indie music is a low stakes game from a financial perspective.  So the one thing you can have as an indie artist is credibility, and when you burn your credibility, you are done, man.  You can not recover from that.   These years I have been true to myself, that's all I have.

'''DS: Do you think Spoon burned their indie credibility for allowing their music to be used in commercials and by making more studio-oriented albums? They are one of my favorite bands, but they have come a long way from A Series of Sneaks and Girls Can Tell.'''
 * JV: They have, but no, I don't think they've lost their credibility at all.  I know those guys so well, and Brit and Jim are doing exactly the music they want to do.  Brit owns his own studio, and they completely control their means of production, and they are very insulated by being on Merge, and I think their new album—and I bought ''Telephono when it came out—is as good as anything they have done.

'''DS: Do you think letting your music be used on commercials does not bring the credibility problem it once did? That used to be the line of demarcation--the whole Sting thing--that if you did commercials you sold out. '''
 * JV: Five years ago I would have said that it would have bothered me.  It doesn't bother me anymore.  The thing is that bands have shrinking options for revenue streams, and sync deals and licensing, it's like, man, you better be open to that idea.  I remember when Spike Lee said, 'Yeah, I did these Nike commercials, but it allowed me to do these other films that I wanted to make,' and in some ways there is an article that Of Montreal and Spoon and other bands that have done sync deals have actually insulated themselves further from the difficulties of being a successful independent band, because they have had some income come in that have allowed them to stay put on labels where they are not being pushed around by anyone.

 * The ultimate problem—sort of like the only philosophical problem is suicide—the only philosophical problem is whether to be assigned to a major label because you are then going to have so much editorial input that it is probably going to really hurt what you are doing.

DS: Do you believe the only philosophical question is whether to commit suicide?
 * JV: Absolutely.  I think the rest is internal chatter and if I logged and tried to counter the internal chatter I have inside my own brain there is no way I could match that.

'''DS: When you see artists like Pete Doherty or Amy Winehouse out on suicidal binges of drug use, what do you think as a musician? What do you get from what you see them go through in their personal lives and their music?'''
 * JV: The thing for me is they are profound iconic figures for me, and I don't even know their music.  I don't know Winehouse or Doherty's music, I just know that they are acting a very crucial, mythic part in our culture, and they might be doing it unknowingly.

'''DS: Glorification of drugs? The rock lifestyle?'''
 * JV: More like an out-of-control Id, completely unregulated personal relationships to the world in general.  It's not just drugs, it's everything.  It's arguing and scratching people's faces and driving on the wrong side of the road.  Those are just the infractions that land them in jail.  I think it might be unknowing, but in some ways they are beautiful figures for going that far off the deep end.

DS: As tragic figures?
 * JV: Yeah, as totally tragic figures.  I appreciate that.  I take no pleasure in saying that, but I also believe they are important.  The figures that go outside—let's say GG Allin or Penderetsky in the world of classical music—people who are so far outside of the normal boundaries of behavior and communication, it in some way enlarges the size of your landscape, and it's beautiful.  I know it sounds weird to say that, but it is.

'''DS: They are examples, as well. I recently covered for Wikinews the Iranian President speaking at Columbia and a student named Matt Glick told me that he supported the Iranian President speaking so that he could protest him, that if we don't give a platform and voice for people, how can we say that they are wrong? I think it's almost the same thing; they are beautiful as examples of how living a certain way can destroy you, and to look at them and say, "Don't be that." '''
 * JV: Absolutely, and let me tell you where I'm coming from.  I don't do drugs, I drink maybe three or four times a year.  I don't have any problematic relationship to drugs because there has been a history around me, like probably any musician or creative person, of just blinding array of drug abuse and problems.  For me, I am a little bit of a control freak and I don't have those issues.  I just shut those doors.  But I also understand and I am very sympathetic to someone who does not shut that door, but goes into that room and stays.

'''DS: Is it a problem for you to work with people who are using drugs? '''
 * JV: I would never work with them.  It is a very selfish decision to make and usually those people are total energy vampires and they will take everything they can get from you.  Again, this is all in theory...I love that stuff in theory.  If Amy Winehouse was my girlfriend, I would probably not be very happy.

'DS: Your latest CD is Emerald City'' and that is an allusion to the compound that we created in Baghdad. How has the current political client affected you in terms of your music?'''
 * JV: In some ways, both Pixel Revolt and Emerald City were born out of a recharged and re-energized position of my being....I was so beaten down after the 2000 election and after 9/11 and then the invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan; I was so depleted as a person after all that stuff happened, that I had to write my way out of it. I really had to write political songs because for me it is a way of making sense and processing what is going on. The question I'm asked all the time is do I think is a responsibility of people to write politically and I always say, My God, no. if you're Morrissey, then you write Morrissey stuff. If you are Dan Bejar and Destroyer, then you are Dan Bejar and you are a fucking genius.  Write about whatever it is you want to write about.  But to get out of that hole I had to write about that.

'''DS: There are two times I felt deeply connected to New York City, and that was 9/11 and the re-election of George Bush. The depression of the city was palpable during both. I was in law school during the Iraq War, and then when Hurricane Katrina hit, we watched our countrymen debate the logic of rebuilding one of our most culturally significant cities, as we were funding almost without question the destruction of another country to then rebuild it, which seems less and less likely. Do you find it is difficult to enjoy living in America when you see all of these sorts of things going on, and the sort of arguments we have amongst ourselves as a people?'''
 * JV: I would say yes, absolutely, but one thing changed that was very strange:  I fell in love with a French girl and the genesis of Emerald City was going through this visa process to get her into the country, which was through the State Department.  In the middle of process we had her visa reviewed and everything shifted over to Homeland Security.  All of my complicated feelings about this country became even more dour and complicated, because here was Homeland Security mailing me letters and all involved in my love life, and they were grilling my girlfriend in Paris and they were grilling me, and we couldn't travel because she had a pending visa.  In some strange ways the thing that changed everything was that we finally got the visa accepted and she came here.  Now she is a Parisian girl, and it goes without saying that she despises America, and she would never have considered moving to America.  So she moves here and is asking me almost breathlessly, How can you allow this to happen--

DS: --you, John Vanderslice, how can you allow this---
 * JV: --Me!  Yes!  So for the first time in my life I wouldn't say I was defending the country but I was in this very strange position of saying, Listen, not that many people vote and the churches run fucking everything here, man.  It's like if you take out the evangelical Christian you have basically a progressive western European country.  That's all there is to it.  But these people don't vote, poor people don't vote, there's a complicated equation of extreme corruption and voter fraud here, and I found myself trying to rattle of all the reasons to her why I am personally not responsible, and it put me in a very interesting position.  And then Sarkozy got elected in France and I watched her go through the same horrific thing that we've gone through here, and Sarkozy is a nut, man.  This guy is a nut.

'''DS: But he doesn't compare to George Bush or Dick Cheney. He's almost a liberal by American standards.'''
 * JV: No, because their President doesn't have much power.  It's interesting because he is a WAPO right-wing and he was very close to Le Pen and he was a card-carrying straight-up Nazi.  I view Sarkozy as somewhat of a far-right candidate, especially in the context of French politics.  He is dismantling everything.  It's all changing.  The school system, the remnants of the socialized medical care system.  The thing is he doesn't have the foreign policy power that Bush does.  Bush and Cheney have unprecedented amounts of power, and black budgets...I mean, come on, we're spending half a trillion dollars in Iraq, and that's just the money accounted for.

'''DS: What's the reaction to you and your music when you play off the coasts? '''
 * JV: I would say good...

DS: Have you ever been Dixiechicked?
 * JV: No!  I want to be!  I would love to be, because then that means I'm really part of some fiery debate, but I would say there's a lot of depressed in every single town.  You can say Salt Lake City, you can look at what we consider to be conservative cities, and when you play those towns, man, the kids that come out are more or less on the same page and politically active because they are fish out of water.

'''DS: Depression breeds apathy, and your music seems geared toward anger, trying to wake people from their apathy. Your music is not maudlin and sad, but seems to be an attempt to awaken a spirit, with a self-reflective bent.'''
 * JV: That's the trick.  I would say that honestly, when Katrina happened, I thought, "okay, this is a trick to make people so crazy and so angry that they can't even think.  If you were in a community and basically were in a more or less quasi-police state surveillance society with no accountability, where we are pouring untold billions into our infrastructure to protect outside threats against via terrorism, or whatever, and then a natural disaster happens and there is no response.  There is an empty response.  There is all these ships off the shore that were just out there, just waiting, and nobody came.  Michael Brown.  It is one of the most insane things I have ever seen in my life.

DS: Is there a feeling in San Francisco that if an earthquake struck, you all would be on your own?
 * JV:  Yes, of course.  Part of what happened in New Orleans is that it was a Catholic city, it was a city of sin, it was a black city.  And San Francisco?  Bush wouldn't even visit California in the beginning because his numbers were so low.  Before Schwarzenegger definitely.  I'm totally afraid of the earthquake, and I think everyone is out there.  America is in the worst of both worlds: a laissez-fare economy and then the Grover Norquist anti-tax, starve the government until it turns into nothing more than a Argentinian-style government where there are these super rich invisible elite who own everything and there's no distribution of wealth and nothing that resembles the New Deal, twentieth century embracing of human rights and equality, war against poverty, all of these things.  They are trying to kill all that stuff.  So, in some ways, it is the worst of both worlds because they are pushing us towards that, and on the same side they have put in a Supreme Court that is so right wing and so fanatically opposed to upholding civil rights, whether it be for foreign fighters...I mean, we are going to see movement with abortion, Miranda rights and stuff that is going to come up on the Court. We've tortured so many people who have had no intelligence value that you have to start to look at torture as a symbolic and almost ritualized behavior; you have this...

'''DS: Organ failure. That's our baseline...'''
 * JV: Yeah, and you have to wonder about how we were torturing people to do nothing more than to send the darkest signal to the world to say, Listen, we are so fucking weird that if you cross the line with us, we are going to be at war with your religion, with your government, and we are going to destroy you.

DS: I interviewed Congressman Tom Tancredo, who is running for President, and he feels we should use as a deterrent against Islam the bombing of the Muslim holy cities of Mecca and Medina.
 * JV: You would radicalize the very few people who have not been radicalized, yet, by our actions and beliefs.  We know what we've done out there, and we are going to paying for this for a long time.  When Hezbollah was bombing Israel in that border excursion last year, the Hezbollah fighters were writing the names of battles they fought with the Jews in the Seventh Century on their helmets.  This shit is never forgotten.

'''DS: You read a lot of the stuff that is written about you on blogs and on the Internet. Do you ever respond?'''
 * JV: No, and I would say that I read stuff that tends to be .  I've done interviews that have been solely about film and photography.  For some reason hearing myself talk about music, and maybe because I have been talking about it for so long, it's snoozeville.  Most interviews I do are very regimented and they tend to follow a certain line.  I understand.  If I was them, it's a 200 word piece and I may have never played that town, in Des Moines or something.  But, in general, it's like...my band mates ask why don't I read the weeklies when I'm in town, and Google my name.  It would be really like looking yourself in the mirror.  When you look at yourself in the mirror you are just error-correcting.  There must be some sort of hall of mirrors thing that happens when you are completely involved in the Internet conversation about your music, and in some ways I think that I'm very innocently making music, because I don't make music in any way that has to do with the response to that music.  I don't believe that the response to the music has anything to do with it.  This is something I got from John Cage and Marcel Duchamp, I think the perception of the artwork, in some ways, has nothing to do with the artwork, and I think that is a beautiful, glorious and flattering thing to say to the perceiver, the viewer of that artwork.  I've spent a lot of time looking at Paul Klee's drawings, lithographs, watercolors and paintings and when I read his diaries I'm not sure how much of a correlation there is between what his color schemes are denoting and what he is saying and what I am getting out of it.  I'm not sure that it matters.  Inland Empire is a great example.  Lynch basically says, I don't want to talk about it because I'm going to close doors for the viewer.  It's up to you.  It's not that it's a riddle or a puzzle.  You know how much of your own experience you are putting into the digestion of your own art.  That's not to say that that guy arranges notes in an interesting way, and sings in an interesting way and arranges words in an interesting way, but often, if someone says they really like my music, what I want to say is, That's cool you focused your attention on that thing, but it does not make me go home and say, Wow, you're great.  My ego is not involved in it.

'''DS: Often people assume an artist makes an achievement, say wins a Tony or a Grammy or even a Cable Ace Award and people think the artist must feel this lasting sense of accomplishment, but it doesn't typically happen that way, does it? Often there is some time of elation and satisfaction, but almost immediately the artist is being asked, "Okay, what's the next thing? What's next?" and there is an internal pressure to move beyond that achievement and not focus on it.'''
 * JV: Oh yeah, exactly.  There's a moment of relief when a mastered record gets back, and then I swear to you that ten minutes after that point I feel there are bigger fish to fry.  I grew up listening to classical music, and there is something inside of me that says, Okay, I've made six records.  Whoop-dee-doo.  I grew up listening to Gustav Mahler, and I will never, ever approach what he did.

DS: Do you try?
 * JV: I love Mahler, but no, his music is too expansive and intellectual, and it's realized harmonically and compositionally in a way that is five languages beyond me.  And that's okay.  I'm very happy to do what I do.  How can anyone be so jazzed about making a record when you are up against, shit, five thousand records a week—

DS: —but a lot of it's crap—
 * JV: —a lot of it's crap, but a lot of it is really, really good and doesn't get the attention it deserves.  A lot of it is very good.  I'm shocked at some of the stuff I hear.  I listen to a lot of music and I am mailed a lot of CDs, and I'm on the web all the time.

'''DS: I've done a lot of photography for Wikipedia and the genesis of it was an attempt to pin down reality, to try to understand a world that I felt had fallen out of my grasp of understanding, because I felt I had no sense of what this world was about anymore. For that, my work is very encyclopedic, and it fit well with Wikipedia. What was the reason you began investing time and effort into photography?'''
 * JV: It came from trying to making sense of touring.  Touring is incredibly fast and there is so much compressed imagery that comes to you, whether it is the window in the van, or like now, when we are whisking through the Northeast in seven days.  Let me tell you, I see a lot of really close people in those seven days.  We move a lot, and there is a lot of input coming in.  The shows are tremendous and, it is emotionally so overwhelming that you can not log it.  You can not keep a file of it.  It's almost like if I take photos while I am doing this, it slows it down or stops it momentarily and orders it.  It has made touring less of a blur; concretizes these times.  I go back and develop the film, and when I look at the tour I remember things in a very different way.  It coalesces.  Let's say I take on fucking photo in Athens, Georgia.  That's really intense.  And I tend to take a photo of someone I like, or photos of people I really admire and like.

DS: What bands are working with your studio, Tiny Telephone?
 * JV: Death Cab for Cutie is going to come back and track their next record there.  Right now there is a band called Hello Central that is in there, and they are really good.  They're from L.A.  Maids of State was just in there and Deerhoof was just in there.  Book of Knotts is coming in soon.  That will be cool because I think they are going to have Beck sing on a tune.  That will be really cool.  There's this band called Jordan from Paris that is starting this week.

DS: Do they approach you, or do you approach them?
 * JV I would say they approach me.  It's generally word of mouth.  We never advertise and it's very cheap, below market.  It's analog.  There's this self-fulfilling thing that when you're booked, you stay booked.  More bands come in, and they know about it and they keep the business going that way.  But it's totally word of mouth.


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Hundreds of monks arrested in monastery raids; continue protests

September 27, 2007 At least 200 monks have been arrested in Myanmar during night-time raids on monasteries not long before sunrise. Government forces began to crack down on protesters after several days of peaceful demonstrations, but despite the violent treatment from military personnel, the monks returned to the streets in the morning.

100 monks were taken by security forces when they raided a monastery at Ngwe Kyaryan. "Only two or three sick monks were left behind", a witness near the monastery said. Some reports state that shots have been fired at demonstrators, with one "collapsing", but it's not known if the individual was shot.

"There are fire trucks, water cannons positioned in a number of places - there are about three of them outside city hall. There are a number of prison vans also to be seen in certain places", said Mark Canning, the British ambassador in Rangoon.

The United States and European Union have said that they are deeply troubled by events, issuing a statement calling on the United Nations Security Council to consider sanctions, but China and Russia do not believe sanctions will "be helpful" and immediately dismissed the call, calling the situation a matter for the "internal government" of Myanmar. "France will not accept the gagging of Burma's opposition", said Nicolas Sarkozy, the French President, who also said that "[the Security Council] expressed their concern vis-a-vis the situation, and have urged restraint, especially from the government of Myanmar."


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It seem incomplete...maybe "Wikinews interviews... DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 05:00, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I see your point. Publications don't typically write, "Rolling Stone interviews..." etc., but they also are more explicit in their titles, (e.g. "Singer-songwriter Vanderslice cuts a thoughtful figure" (that was NPR's) or "Vanderslice plays the Bowery Ballroom" (that's common).  But I agree:  I don't think we should do these bland "Interview with X" things, but be a little more creative.  Suggestions?  --David Shankbone 11:11, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * John Vanderslice! Whohoo! You should have asked him about the new Mountain Goats album. --+Deprifry+ 11:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm currently negotiating with The Mountain Goats to interview them. --David Shankbone 11:28, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * ...WOW, awesome! Please ask them when they'll be heading over to Berlin --+Deprifry+ 11:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It may be photos now and interview later, which is what I'm doing with Bat for Lashes. --David Shankbone 11:38, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

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Just wanted to point out that "Mates of State" is referenced incorrectly (unless Maids of State is some new band I've never heard of, if it is someone can delete this). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.19.75.92 (talk) 01:04, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


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Talk:Hundreds of monks arrested in monastery raids; continue protests

People... It's monastery, not monastary... w:User:Circeus 05:16, 27 September 2007 (UTC).
 * ✅ Thanks. If you log in with an account, you could have fixed that yourself, you lazy good-for-nothing. [[Image:Smile.png|20px]] irid t i [mailto:ironiridis@gmail.com e]  05:18, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Apologies for my poor spelling. - Borofkin 05:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you, but I can't even keep up with the three projects I'm on already. w:User:Circeus. 198.168.27.224 21:04, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

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Australian PM rules out economic sanctions against Myanmar

September 27, 2007

Australian Prime Minister John Howard has announced that it will investigate implementing "targeted financial sanctions against regime figures and supporters," but has ruled out economic sanctions against Myanmar. He noted that economic sanctions could harm the people of Myanmar. "You always have a conflict in these situations between demonstrating your position by some kind of sanction, but making sure that those sanctions don't hurt the people who we are really trying to help," he said.

Howard noted the important role that China has in the crisis. "The country that can exert most pressure on Burma is China and we will be encouraging, and we are doing it already, encouraging China to exert a positive influence on the regime to encourage it to hold back on the repression and to adopt a more accommodating attitude towards the people," he said.

Howard described the government of Myanmar as "a thoroughly loathsome regime." He said that his government would tighten visa restrictions for regime officials, and maintain the ban on defence exports to Myanmar.


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Talk:Australian PM rules out economic sanctions against Myanmar

The whole conception of this story seems to be wrong. The media release linked says: "To underline Australia's dismay at the regime's actions and our concern for the welfare of the Burmese people, the Government will move to implement targeted financial sanctions against regime figures and supporters."

I don't understand how that can be twisted to the headline of "Australian PM rules out economic sanctions against Myanmar"

However, this is my first visit to the site, so I might be missing something.

Aujoz 07:04, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I agree. The title should probably be "Australian PM announces financial restrictions on Myanmar regeime" or something. There is a difference between "financial sanctions" against individuals, and "economic sanctions" against an entire country. I certainly agree that we don't currently have a source for the PM ruling out economic sanctions. - Borofkin 00:19, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


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17-pound baby born in Russia

September 27, 2007

A Siberian woman, Tatyana Barabanova, 43, residing in Russia was shocked, after giving birth to her twelfth child, to see a 17-pound (7.75 kg) baby.

Nadia, born on September 17, 2007, by Caesarean section at a maternity clinic in, Russia, weighed in at a massive 17 pounds 1 ounce. "We were all simply in shock," the mother stated. When asked what the father said, she answered "He couldn't say a thing - he just stood there blinking."

Barabanova said they did not have the money for "special foods", so she "ate everything". Nadia's eight sisters and three brothers all weighed in at more than 11 pounds (5 kg), according to a local news reported, quoted by the Reuters news agency.

This is the second time this has happened, a Brazilian woman gave birth to a 17lb (7.73kg) baby in January 2005.

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Talk:17-pound baby born in Russia

Reports have conflicting information. Some have the mother named as Tatyana Barabanova (Fox), others as Tatiana Khalina {Yahoo!}. Some say the baby's name is Nadia (Fox), others say Nadezhda {Yahoo!). Some say the baby was born on Sep 16 (Fox), others say Sep 17 (Yahoo!). Fox and Yahoo are just examples. Others sources vary as well. What to do in this case? 75.183.122.31 14:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Damn it. I didn't realize I wasn't signed in. Lara  ♥ Love 14:27, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

 * In Russian, Nadia is diminutive of Nadezhda, so there is no contradiction here. 62.140.252.42 01:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

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Comments:Hundreds of monks arrested in monastery raids; continue protests

When the government kills and tortures monks en mass, you know they are bad. Contralya 15:04, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Russia and China always support the despotic and oppressive regimes in the world yet they get a free pass when it comes to criticism of their foreign policy. I expect there will be no difference when it comes to them sitting by quietly while Myanmar goes about killing monks. Of course both Russia and China see acts like this as legitimate domestic politics.

Rediculous
Honestly. These are PEACEFUL protests people! These monks do not deserve in any way shape or form the treatment they are receiving. Again peaceful...I mean seriously what point is there for arresting them, let alone the beatings reported yesterday. Where is our free speech? Where are our opinions? We cannot stand to let this happen anymore. It's time that we band together and stop this before it's too late.

Kittieponcho 18:01, 27 September 2007 (UTC)Kittieponcho

Simple
This is pretty simple, Buddhist monks are peace-loving and exceedingly tolerant. I was told a story of a temple in Thailand where wasps built a nest and monks were getting stung during prayers. Not one of the monks would raise a hand to destroy the nest. The extent of protests here is as significant as the Catholic Church declaring the Italian government's actions evil. Yet, no sanctions. I haven't a clue why Russia would take this stance, but China has Tibet to consider and doesn't want to consider governments being ostracised for interfering in religion. Remember they kidnapped the Panchai Lama and the situation is so nuts that the Dali Lama has said he will not be reincarnated within Tibet. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Condemnation not enough?
While international law governs the extent to which foreign countries can intervene, it simply seems unjust morally and philosophically that words of condemnation and trade implications are the best support developed nations can offer. I suppose the real question is what will come of the UN delegation sent to engage the junta in talks. I highly doubt much will come of the talks, the only solution I see is direct action against the junta through force. Theonlysilentbob 19:27, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Funny thing is, take the same number of troops as the US has deployed in Iraq, take out the Myanmar Junta and upper army ranks, and the people would be *delighted* to vote in free and fair elections. You could probably be down to a token troop deployment in less than three months while you hammered out a constitution and let people start to re-form political affiliations. However it won't happen. The only people who can free the Burmese are themselves. I don't give them good odds, but I wish them all the luck in the world. If I see any superpower leaders around I'll kick them in the shins and tell them to help here - where there isn't any oil. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:37, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Forget foreign military - it's too bad we just can't airdrop M16s, ammo, and OLPCs with sat modems. Hand the people of Burma their 1st and 2nd amendment rights in a way their government can't revoke. Heck, just the OLPCs with unblockable access to the internet would be a step up. Crazyeddie 03:39, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


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That's one big baby! Wow.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 15:06, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Like the old days
In the 1800s and 1700s the average woman had seven children or so... I guess she is old fashioned (-_-). Contralya 13:46, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

True, but still, that was then, this is now Mutton333 21:21, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

i am havein a baby and i what to kniw how is a baby born
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW THAT IS CRAZY —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.250.131.85 (talk) 22:31, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

17 pound russian baby
it is highly likley that this woman had pregancy induced diabetes and her 'eating everything' exacerbated the situation.This theory is supported by the fact that all her other children weighed over 10lbs

Jefferine Ruddock —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.183.3.110 (talk) 14:30, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

sucks
this story sucks

God Is Great
Oh God, I bend my knees.....

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