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Comments:Wikinews interviews U.S. Libertarian presidential candidate Bob Jackson

I don't know what's sadder: that he touts his Eagle Scout status as a credential, or that I'm still more inclined to vote for him than any of the major party candidates besides Ron Paul. Good luck, Mr. Jackson. -161.88.255.139 23:46, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

 * its a shame that these guys ultimately help the republicans under the American voting system and get very little chance, a french style 2 round voting system atleast gives them a chance.--77.99.171.94 23:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Improving our electoral system would be wonderful, but who's going to change those laws? Somehow I don't see the Republicans or the Democrats voluntarily giving up their stranglehold duopoly. -161.88.255.139 00:10, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Ron Paul
I'm not a supporter of Ron Paul, but it seems weird that an interview with a Libertarian candidate would not mention Paul. I would like to know why a Libertarian thinks I should vote for him and not Ron Paul, since their attitudes seem fundamentally the same. --156.56.128.46 21:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Bob Jackson for president
I believe that Mr. Jackson is our best choice for president. There isn't a dimes worth of difference between the democrats or republicans. When you vote for either party, you are choosing who you want to run big government.Please help Bob by casting your vote for him on election day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.216.5.4 (talk) 17:24, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Jackson is truly delusional. As a good businessman he stuck it to a lot of unsecured creditors when he bankrupted Triax. This man thinks that he can be the President of the USA? Truly Delusional.-


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Talk:2008 Taipei International Book Exhibition: Opening day highlights

OR info
Currently write for some important activity form 2008 TIBE, I think many executives will successively visit there. Day 2 may have different highlights than the Opening day. Brock contact... 02:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Rename
I believe that for downstyle caps this article should be named "Opening day highlights of 2008 Taipei International Book Exhibition" TheVault - (talk) 03:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Down-style changed and arranged. Brock contact... 04:26, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


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User:Planoneck/articles

I created/published/took credit for:

November

 * Ukrainian coal mine explodes, killing 68
 * Students protest Holocaust denier's appearance at Oxford debate

December

 * Florida quarterback Tim Tebow is first sophomore to win Heisman
 * Sacha Baron Cohen retires Borat alter ego
 * New England Patriots go undefeated in NFL regular season

January

 * NHL game held outdoors in stadium; Pittsburgh wins in shootout
 * Car bomb explodes in Turkey, killing 4 and injuring many
 * Launch of Space Shuttle Atlantis once again delayed
 * Intel ends partnership with One Laptop Per Child program
 * Mikheil Saakashvili re-elected President of Georgia
 * Bodies of 2 children allegedly thrown from bridge are found
 * Bobby Jindal sworn in as governor of Louisiana
 * UFO sightings reported in Texas town
 * Wikinews Shorts: January 20, 2008
 * Nikolić wins first round of Serbian presidential election
 * Fred Thompson quits U.S. Presidential race
 * Iraq removes Saddam references from flag
 * Texas UFOs were actually jets, Air Force says
 * Suicide bomb kills Iraqi police chief at site of previous attack
 * Guyana shooting is country's worst in 30 years
 * Obama wins South Carolina primary
 * UK allows McDonald's to award high school credits
 * Grass fires break out across Texas
 * Schwarzenegger endorses McCain for U.S. Presidency

February

 * NBA: Grizzlies trade Pau Gasol to Lakers
 * NASA to beam Beatles song into deep space
 * 5 dead in Chicago-area store shooting
 * Tadić re-elected President of Serbia
 * New York Giants upset New England Patriots' quest for perfect season
 * LDS church names Monson their new president
 * Texans vote online for new license plate
 * Rebels shoot East Timor president
 * Israel town sues Google for slander
 * New 'Guitar Hero' game to focus on Aerosmith
 * Bush starts off Africa trip in Benin
 * Eastern Conference wins 2008 NBA All-Star Game
 * Kosovo seeks recognition as independent state
 * Documents regarding Kennedy assassination found in Dallas
 * Pakistan opposition parties form coalition
 * Ralph Nader enters US presidential race as independent
 * Ugandan government, rebels agree to ceasefire
 * Seeds placed in Norwegian vault as agricultural 'insurance policy'

March

 * FARC second-in-command killed by Columbian military
 * Computer documents suggest link between Chavez and FARC
 * US officials flood Grand Canyon to restore ecosystem
 * Brett Favre says goodbye to NFL at press conference
 * South American leaders end border dispute
 * Vietnam bans pet hamsters
 * President Bush vetoes CIA waterboarding ban
 * Obama wins Wyoming caucus
 * China kills suspected terrorists, prevents 'air disaster'
 * Socialists win second term as Spain's ruling party
 * Anti-China protestors clash with police in Tibet
 * Tornado hits downtown Atlanta
 * Crane levels New York City townhouse, leaving 4 dead
 * Tibetans say 80 killed in protests; China continues to crack down
 * Concert for peace held on Colombian-Venezuelan border
 * China: Dalai Lama's comments are 'downright nonsense'
 * Mexican opposition party elects new leader
 * Dalai Lama threatens to resign if situation in Tibet worsens
 * Barack Obama gives speech on racial division
 * Three of Serbia's neighbors recognize Kosovo
 * Pakistan's parliament elects first female speaker
 * Hubble detects methane on distant planet
 * UN: Military attacks on Darfur violated international law
 * Social networking site lets users run virtual campaign for US president
 * Pakistan Peoples Party names candidate for Prime Minister
 * African troops invade rebel-held island of Anjouan
 * Around 240 Chilean protesters detained after anti-government demonstration
 * U.S. launches airstrikes against Basra militants
 * Zimbabwe opposition claims early victory in election

April

 * Spain's new cabinet has more women than men
 * Zimbabwe's election delay could have 'serious implications', warns UN Secretary-General
 * Putin orders Russian government to normalize relations with Georgia
 * Chinese hackers call off attack on CNN website
 * Bus crash in Spain leaves 9 Finnish tourists dead
 * China, France attempt to repair relations in wake of protests
 * US Senate unanimously passes genetic nondiscrimination bill

May

 * Cuba announces shift of farm management to local level
 * Pakistan's coalition government faces split
 * US says polar bears are threatened species
 * South Africa's largest newspaper wants President Mbeki to resign
 * Florida teacher lets students vote to remove child from class
 * First storm of Atlantic hurricane season forms off coast of Belize

June

 * Zimbabwean police arrest two opposition figures
 * Mugabe is 'prepared to fight' if Zimbabwe elects opposition
 * Nepal's royal palace now a public museum
 * Al Gore endorses Obama for US President
 * US Supreme Court outlaws death penalty for child rape
 * Mugabe says he's open to talks with Zimbabwe opposition
 * Mexican police official, bodyguard shot dead at restaurant
 * South Korean police clamp down on protests against US beef
 * President Bush signs $162 billion war funding bill
 * Man auctions his life on eBay, is disappointed at sale price

July

 * Zimbabwean opposition leader rejects calls for power sharing talks
 * Mongolia's ruling party wins elections as rioting subsides
 * President Bush plans to attend opening of Beijing Olympics
 * Pakistani scientist says government knew about nuclear shipment to North Korea
 * Íngrid Betancourt returns to France
 * Hot dog eating champion retains title after tiebreaker
 * Bertha becomes first hurricane of 2008 Atlantic season
 * Karl Rove refuses to testify in front of House Judiciary Committee
 * Lebanon forms unity government with Hezbollah-led opposition

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User:Planoneck/views

I may be a 14-year-old Mexican who thinks My Chemical Romance doesn't suck, but that doesn't mean my opinions don't matter. Well, actually it does, but here are my opinions anyway. Ignorance and stupidity await.

Politics
I don't really like to think of myself as a liberal, but according to the Political Compass, I'm about as socially and economically liberal as Gandhi, so I guess I'm stuck with that label. I think my views are closer to that of Libertarians, but if I had to pick one party to affiliate myself with, I'd pick the Democrats. But only because most of the Republicans are stupid beyond repair.

'08 Elections
Like Obama. Hate Hillary. Also kinda liked Gravel, but everyone else hates him for some reason. I support Bill Richardson for VP if Obama gets the nom. If Hillary gets the nom, then screw it, I'm moving to Mexico.

Of the Republicans, the only one I really, really disliked was Romney. He looks like a zombie Nixon. The rest were okay, even though I disagreed with most of their positions. My favorite Republican would have to have been Ron Paul.

Iraq War
At first I didn't really care much about the war, but really - how many more proposed troop pullouts do we need? How many more surges do we need? How many more "missions accomplished" do we need? It's over. It's done. Or at least it should be. Do something, Congress - you too, Bush. Seriously.

Gay marriage
Even though as a Catholic, I believe homosexuality is immoral, I don't think it should be illegal. I realize that not everyone is this country is a Christian, or a Jew, or a Muslim, or a member of any other religion which thinks homosexuality is wrong. For the people who think religion is a load of crap, and also the people who choose not to follow that one rule in their religion, we must ensure full rights for gays. Being gay isn't hurting anyone. At all. Not even "family values".

Abortion
Abortion, on the other hand, should be illegal. Unlike homosexuality, abortion actually is hurting someone - or at least a potential someone. I find it immoral and unethical to terminate the life of a human being, no matter how unhuman the fetus may appear. If all fetuses looked exactly like the people they could eventually grow up to be, I doubt we'd be having much debate over abortion. You can call me old-fashioned, but you'd be wrong.

Affirmative action
Against it. Why? Because of the guilt I'd experience if I got accepted to MIT over some Asian with an SAT score 200 points higher than mine. (Not being racist, by the way. 90% of my friends are Asian.) It really is reverse discrimination. Give minorities a chance, we can do good on our own. Maybe improve inner-city schools or something, but don't give us a free pass.

Immigration
Against total deportation, against a giant wall, but for stronger security and possibly amnesty for those without criminal records who have come to find a better life.

Education
NCLB is a step in the right direction, but more needs to be done. Especially for the gifted, who are often the ones left behind when schools focus more on those who are failing. I realize no child should be denied a good education, but if gifted children are continually forced to conform to a dumbed down curriculum, where will the scientists, the writers, the Nobel Prize winners, the geniuses, be tomorrow? Not in the United States, that's for sure.

Wikipedia
I hate when teachers hate Wikipedia without giving a reason besides "anyone can edit it". Yeah, but doesn't that also mean anyone can improve it? Just tell the stupid kids not to take everything on the site at face value and let the rest of us Wiki in peace. Free information pwns.

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Malaysian general election 2008 update

February 20, 2008 Following are some of the recent developments in the upcoming general election in Malaysia.

Date for election set
Malaysia's Election Committee announced last Thursday that parliamentary elections will be held on the 8th of March. The registration of candidates is to commence on February 24, leaving 13 days for campaigning. Malaysia's Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi had announced a day earlier that parliament was dissolved, making elections possible.

Peaceful rally dispersed by police
An action to give the Prime Minister roses after marching to parliament, which had not been given a police permit, was blocked by police and then dispersed using water cannons and tear-gas on Saturday. The rally had been organized by Hindu Rights Action Force (HINDRAF), who said they wanted to peacefully demand that five of their leaders, who have been detained without charge following a far larger march last November, be freed.

Incumbent member of opposition party not standing
Fong Po Kuan of the Democratic Action Party (DAP), the largest of the opposition parties, has said she will not stand for another term, citing party internal problems: "it has become impossible for me to continue serving effectively, efficiently and wholeheartedly as a party leader as well as an elected representative of the people". The New Straits Times claims that unnamed observers see the move as a strong blow to the DAP's campaign in the province of Perak, where she was deemed to be nominated.

Background
The elections will see the ruling coalition, the Barisan National (BN) which had won an unprecedented 90% of all seats in parliament last election, facing of against a number of less united opposition parties. The Barisan National has ruled since Malaysia's independence from Britain in 1957. Badawi has been Prime Minister since 2003.

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User talk:59.94.108.83

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There were # game(s) played in the National Hockey League on -1 days.

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Employment figures in Brazil up by 2.2% according to IBGE

February 14, 2008

According to the Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics (IBGE), the 2007 rate of employment in Brazil was 2.2% higher then figures for 2006. According to the IBGE the employment figures are at their highest since 2001.

The IBGE reported growth in employment levels for all the 14 regions surveyed, with the highest rates of increase being recorded in the states of São Paulo (with an increase of 3.5%) and the state of Paraná (with an increase of 3.1%). Região Nordeste and Minas Gerais had increases of 1.4% and 1.5% respectively.

According to the IBGE, the industries with the biggest increase in employment figures were food and drink, transport, metal and machinery. The biggest falls in employment figures were in footwear, woodwork and clothing.


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Comments:Abu Dhabi starts constructing 'green city'

I'd love to see more cities in the US doing this!

Abu
I think that this is wrong —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.186.34.244 (talk) 15:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "yay! green=good!"
yay! green=good! —137.164.143.36 (talk) 17:23, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "This article is magnificent, I..."
This article is magnificent, I can clearly understand what's happening in Abu Dhabi today, I hope this city (Masdar) will be built soon! —98.218.107.78 (talk) 02:57, 10 March 2011 (UTC)


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National Hockey League news: February 14, 2008

February 14, 2008

There were 6 games played in the National Hockey League on February 13, 2008.

Ottawa Senators @ New Jersey Devils
Luke Richardson put the Senators on the board early in the first period. Jamie Langenbrunner picked up a short-handed goal, assisted by Patrik Elias to tie it up 6:12 into the 2nd period. The Devils went ahead less than two minutes later on a Karel Rachunek goal which Elias also assisted in. The Senators would tie it up again later in the 2nd period with Randy Robitaille beating New Jersey's Martin Brodeur at 15:29. After a scoreless 3rd, the game went to overtime, where Brian Gionta scored his first goal in 13 games off a rebound from Langenbrunner.

Washington Capitals @ Atlanta Thrashers
After a scoreless 1st period, Viktor Kozlov scored on an Alexander Ovechkin feed to put the Caps up early. Eric Perrin and Marian Hossa then gave the Thrashers the lead with goals 2:34 apart late in the 2nd. Then Ovechkin scored his 48th goal of the season with just 1:21 left in the 3rd to send it into overtime. In the shootout, Perrin and Slava Kozlov each scored against Caps goaltender Olaf Kolzig. Thrashers goalie Kari Lehtonen stopped both Alexander Semin and Boyd Gordon's attempts to pick up the win.

Chicago Blackhawks @ Columbus Blue Jackets
Patrick Kane scored his first goal since January 18 when he scored on Chicago's first power play. Brent Seabrook added one for the Hawks less than 1:30 later. Dustin Byfuglien scored twice for the Hawks in the 1st to give Chicago a 4 goal lead after 1 period of play. Dick Tarnstrom put the Jackets on the board early in the 2nd with a power play goal, but Chicago would answer back with a Martin Havlat goal to increase their lead back to 4. Fredrik Modin would score at 13:06 in the 2nd on another Columbus power-play to again cut the deficit, but James Wisniewski would put Chicago ahead by 4 once again just 2:17 later. Robert Lang would cap it off with an unassisted goal with less than a minute left in the game.

Toronto Maple Leafs @ Buffalo Sabres
In a real goaltender's duel, the Buffalo Sabers, who have seemed to catch a second wind after a 3-7-5 stretch leading into the all-star break, have rallied behind their star goaltender Ryan Miller, who stopped 35 shots and picked up the shutout. The game's only goal was scored by Paul Gaustad at 8:56 in the 3rd period.

Boston Bruins @ Pittsburgh Penguins
Petteri Nokelainen and Vladimir Sobotka scored back-to-back goals in the first period to put the B's ahead by 2 early in the game. Tim Thomas didn't have to stop very many shots in the second period; only one shot actually went on goal through a 15 minute stretch. One goal did get by him in the 3rd, scored by Evgeni Malkin on a Penguins power-play. Malkin has stepped up to fill the hole left by the injured Sidney Crosby, scoring 16 points in the last 6 games.

Montreal Canadiens @ Florida Panthers
Teammate Richard Zednik was on the minds of the Florida Panthers players in their first game since Zednik was cut in the neck by Olli Jokinen's skate in Buffalo on Sunday. Steve Montador scored the first goal at 12:04 in the first period on a Florida power-play. Christopher Higgins would tie the game in the 3rd period on a pass from Sako Koivu to send the game into overtime, where Alexei Kovalev scored the game winner at 1:43 to give Montreal the win.

Other news
Bruins defenseman Aaron Ward was taken to a hospital with a neck injury after being hit with a high stick early in the second period. Coach Claude Julien said that Ward had coughed up blood.

Richard Zednik is expected to be released from a Buffalo hospital in 24-48 hours, though he may not return to the ice before the end of the season.


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User talk:SusanLesch

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After much contention Al Franken wins Minnesota Senate seat
Hello. Thanks for your contributions to After much contention Al Franken wins Minnesota Senate seat. Unfortunately, Wikinews does not use the cite.php citation style. I have reverted your additions for now. However, if a source supports what you added, please added using the source template. Please do so only if that source was published on the date the article on Wikinews was published. Tuesday, June 30, 2009 is the date the article on WN was published so only sources with a Tuesday, June 30, 2009 or earlier dateline are acceptible. If you want, you may create another article, such as Minn. Gov. Pawlenty signes Franken election certificate or similiar. PS: I assume you are from Minn. too; it's always nice to see another Minnesotan on WP or WN. Calebrw (talk) 06:05, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi. Yes I was reading up on Wikinews citation style. Yes all events are sourced to the same date. I'll try again. Thanks and sorry to mess up the citations. -SusanLesch (talk) 06:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking into this policy. If you wish to work towards become an editor, I suggest becoming familiar with all Policies and guidelines. Calebrw (talk) 06:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, don't worry about messing up too much. We have all done it, even us Admins. However, it doesn't look so good to have this as your only contribs and then wanting to be an Editor. Keep working though. I know my first contribs weren't the best. Calebrw (talk) 06:30, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not worried. But thanks for worrying. :-) Anyway I added what I wanted to add. It looks fine. -SusanLesch (talk) 06:33, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Much better, but still needed a few improvements (read minor tweaks). Please see those changes for future reference. Also see the RfP Editor thing you posted as there some comments I made. Calebrw (talk) 06:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Um, yes I read your comments, answered your posts here, and I'm done. See ya! -SusanLesch (talk) 06:41, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hello, please stop adding to this article from June 30. Thanks. --SVTCobra 08:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Surely, no problem. The sources are all from the day it was written. How would you like it to be fixed? -SusanLesch (talk) 08:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * At this point, it really can't, short of writing a new article. (Minn. Gov. Pawlenty signes Franken election certificate was the example I used earlier) Calebrw (talk) 14:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

My request for editor status
With all due respect, is your neutral vote some sort of revenge...? – Juliancolton  | Talk 04:52, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, Juliancolton. No it is not revenge--that would have been likely an oppose. I expect you will pass easily, and thought we were quite close in contributions here so I said what I thought. Hope that's okay. -SusanLesch (talk) 05:40, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Thanks for the response. – Juliancolton  | Talk 15:46, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Caffeine Reverses Alzheimer's Disease In Mice
Hi. When citing scientific papers, we use a different source template. See Source-science. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:48, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Bawolff, thanks! -SusanLesch (talk) 05:53, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Concerned
I noticed some of the comments that you made (and then removed) on your user page. It led me to think that you believe that you have been discriminated against by the Wikinews community. I sincerely hope that is not true. If it is, then it is something that the community should be made aware of and discuss. Cheers, --SVTCobra 02:19, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

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Talk:Employment figures in Brazil up by 2.2% according to IBGE

Might be worth including whether their currency has been improving or declining next to the dollar and euro. Nyarlathotep - (talk) 11:48, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


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International row after Spielberg quits 2008 Beijing Olympics

February 15, 2008 On Wednesday, United States film director Steven Spielberg withdrew from his position as artistic adviser to the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, China. "Conscience will not allow me to continue with business as usual," he said.

"Sudan's government bears the bulk of the responsibility for these ongoing crimes but the international community, and particularly China, should be doing more to end the continuing human suffering there," Spielberg's statement said. "China's economic, military and diplomatic ties to the government of Sudan continue to provide it with the opportunity and obligation to press for change."

China immediately expressed regret over his decision and suggested that "ulterior motives" may be at play. "It is understandable if some people do not understand the Chinese government policy on Darfur, but I am afraid that some people may have ulterior motives, and this we cannot accept. ... China is also concerned about the humanitarian situation in Darfur. [But] empty rhetoric will not help. We hope that relevant people will be more pragmatic," said, the Deputy-Director General of the Information Department in China's foreign ministry.

Following Spielberg's withdrawal, other organizations called for boycott of the Games. However, United Kingdom  rejected such calls. "The world has known for the last seven years that Beijing would host the Olympics," Jowell told The Times. "Most progressive governments accept that there are wholly unacceptable aspects of Chinese policy, but that did not stop the International Olympic Committee awarding them the games. A call for a boycott doesn't serve any purpose and it would be a great pity. This doesn't mean, however, we should be distracted from the urgency of Darfur."

"China is also concerned about the humanitarian issues there, but we have been playing a positive and constructive role in promoting peace in Darfur," Liu said, adding that China is working with the United Nations to provide aid and resolve the crisis.

Critics of China contend that China supports the Islamic regime in Sudan because it buys two-thirds of the country's oil exports and also sells it weapons. Further, China has been defending the government in in the United Nations Security Council. Since 2003, fighting between government-backed militia and rebels in Darfur has led to the death of more than 200,000 people and displaced some 2.5 million others.

Meanwhile, United States President George W. Bush confirmed that he still plans to attend the Games in Beijing. "I view the Olympics as a sporting event. On the other hand, I have a different platform to Steven Spielberg, so I get to talk to Hu Jintao [President of China] and I do remind him he can do more to relieve the suffering in Darfur."

Bush followed this by saying: "I’m not going to use the Olympics as an opportunity to express my opinions to the Chinese people in a public way because I do it all the time with the president."


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14 February

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User:Zephyr1981

Zephyr Lim (A gentle breeze) - Korean(Rep of) Wikipedian

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2008 Taipei International Book Exhibition: Varied features at Kid Book Hall

February 15, 2008 Following the first day's events at the 2008 Taipei International Book Exhibition (TIBE), organisers used today as an opportunity for a number of autograph sessions, the announcement of awards and a focus on the Taipei World Trade Center's Hall 3 where children's activities and seminars were being held.

The Kids' Book Hall, which was created with cooperation from the Regional Association of Educational Materials, saw a new addition this year in the form of the "Taiwan Stationery" pavilion. The display included a variety of paper products not only for children, but for small-business and general usage.

In order to promote some conceptions on environment and recycling, Yuen Foong Yu Paper Mfg. Co. Ltd. sponsored the exhibition with recycled poster container and corrugated-fiberboard, which was used to design several nature scenes, and the material will be reusable in the future.

Participants also held several seminars at TWTC Hall 1 for reading population promotion, for example, a Taiwanese version of a famous magazine named "Kagakuru". Aimed at science education, imported by Taiwan Mac Education, and promoted by several academic professionals in Taiwan, the magazine will be released on March 3, 2008.


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No translation. Independently written with what I seen at Hall 3, also, I participated some key activity today. Temporarily I postponed two award information translation due to some information collection from some pavilions at Hall 1 & 2. Brock contact... 16:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

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"Kid Book Hall" is the official name by Taipei Book Fair Foundation because this area is located at TWTC Hall 3, so please don't change the name style. Brock contact... 04:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


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That was a brutally awful interview to read. Aside from it being incredibly disjointed and all over the place, none of the questions are even specifically related to the artist. It's like the interviewer received one of those "FW: FW: FW: FW: 20 questions!" emails from a friend, printed it out and used it as an interview template. You could ask those questions to anyone. Not to mention, questions like "Favourite euphemisms for breast?" or "How has the Iraq War affected you as an artist?" made me cringe. Next time do some research before you interview someone, so you don't come across looking like a total jackass.

Yeah, that was rough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.10.140.107 (talk) 17:02, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


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Study reports that 28% of broiler chickens struggle to walk

February 14, 2008

A recently released report written by people from the, the , and the has found that 27.6% of chickens reared for human consumption struggle to walk, although a "considerable variation in walking ability between flocks," was reported. The study reported that "27.6 per cent of birds represented by this survey had a of three or above."

The study also stated that the month in which broiler chickens were least likely to have severely damaged legs was March, with it being most likely in the month of September. The study also said that the chickens which were tightly packed into a small area were more likely to have difficulties walking than chickens that were given more space.

The report finished by saying that "consumers currently know little about how broiler chickens are reared but can be shocked when presented with information about current commercial practices," and that "Since the sustainability of intensive broiler production depends on continued consumer acceptance of the farming practices involved, the broiler industry will need to work with the scientific community to develop more robust and healthier genotypes and to ensure that optimal husbandry and management practices are fully implemented."


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I Read the report. PS - the report was released under CC-BY so would the text of it be appropriate for Wikisource? --Please vote or comment on my RfaAnonymous101 Talk RfA 17:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

 * I suppose so. --  Zanimum - (talk) 20:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Added text of report to Wikinsource and linked to from article. Thanks! --Anonymous101 Talk 20:52, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

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Immigration Still Stirring the U.S. Political Agenda:

Congressional Hispanic Caucus Reduces Visas Number, Study Reveals Minorities Will be the Majority

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus has blocked voting on legislation that would allow employers to rehire foreign seasonal workers. This year, the U.S. government will only issue 33,000 visas for winter workers and 33,000 for summer workers. This comes as a stark comparison to 2007, when 120,000 foreign workers entered the U.S. with H-2B visas.

Currently, the reduction in visas is having profounds effects on both Mexico and U.S.

In Tlapacoyan, a Mexican town which in the last 30 years has exported a large seasonal workforce, using H-2B visas, to work in U.S. circuses and carnivals, the effects are already a stark reality. The local economy has been paralyzed, and unemployment has reached dramatic highs. The lack of money being pumped into the local economy has caused many businesses to close, and the construction of the town's new church has come to a screeching halt. Additionally, residents like Pablo Juarez Mendoza, who last year made $450 working in Texan livestock shows, are having difficulties finding local work. Those that do, are only making an average of $50 per week.

U.S. businesses are getting ready to face their own set of economical obstacles caused by the lack of cheap labor. Many employers are finding creative ways to cut costs, including scaling back operations. In Cape Cod, for example, the local chamber of commerce reports that town employers will only receive 15 of the 5,000 visas requested. In response, local Cape Cod business owner, Williman Zammer, has called the situation "a major crisis," and states that what the Hispanic Caucus is doing is "ruthless."

Opponents of the change state that recent legislation blocking is part of the Caucus' efforts to push for comprehensive immigration reform, not seen in the U.S. since the early 1980s. Hispanic Caucus Chairman, Rep. Joe Baca, D-California, hopes that policymakers will place attention not only on helping small businesses, but also on what to do with 12 million illegal immigrants currently residing in the U.S., and improving border security.

The issue of immigration has become a polarizing subject in the U.S., and one that has been an intrinsic part of the fabric that makes up the American society. Since 2006, the U.S. accepts more legal immigrants as permanent residents than any other country in the world. That same year, a NBC/Wall Street Journal poll revealed that the U.S. public was equally divided on the whether immigration helps or hurts the country. Forty-four percent said it helped, forty-five percent said it hurt.

However, a recent Pew Research Center study suggests that the issue will remain at the forefront of the American political agenda for many years to come.

The study revealed that by 2050, one in five Americans will be foreign-born, and the overall U.S. population will double to 438 million. The U.S Latino population will account for 30% of the population, while Asians will account for 9%. Thus, what we see unfolding is a U.S. where minorities will become the majority, and drastic cultural and societal changes seem almost certain.

The study seems to also hint that this growth is in many ways connected to legislation passed by Congress in 1965, that abolished a quota system that had nearly ended immigration from non-European countries since the 1920s, and consequently caused an immigration surge.

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Chicken aren't supposted to walk, they're supposed to be eaten. --SVTCobra 19:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You aren't supposed to talk; you're supposed to be beaten :p It makes me sad that we do this to animals just cause "it's tastey". Wikidsoup - (talk) 00:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's what my dad told me too! Now that't funny! But don't feel sad, just think of them as vegetables. You don't cry when people chop up carrots, do you? --SVTCobra 02:04, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

this made me hungrey
well of too Mc'ds --66.229.35.146 20:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

That's it, I'm becoming a vegetarian
...at least until the next time I see a tasty-looking piece of meat. Mmmmmm... crippled meat. -161.88.255.139 22:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I find these comments hilarious
And I too will have no problem the next time I bite into a nice chicken tender. They're such tasty little critters!--66.75.48.94 01:48, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


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This is a very serious situation. A 13 year old boy who lived across the street from my home died two years ago while playing this game. The boys parents found him dead one day hanging, with a noose around his neck. The boy strangled himself and couldnt get out of it alone. It was a terrible tragedy and many people still cant get over it.

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Inflation in Finland reaches 7-year high at 3.8%

February 14, 2008

Inflation in Finland hit a 7-year-high in January, reaching 3.8%, it has emerged.

Statistics Finland announced today that the high figure had been reached, compared to 2.6% in December or 2.3% in January 2007. This surpasses all figures since November 2000, when the number reached 4%. It is also a rare occasion where Finnish inflation has surpassed the average for nations which use the Euro, currently at 3.2%.

The agency said that economic policy was responsible, with researcher Juhani Pekkarinen saying "About a sixth of the (year-on-year) increase was caused by taxes," and going on to add that the low prices of vehicles and electronics had prevented inflation from rising further. Statistics Finland added that contributing factors included increases in food, alcohol and liquid fuel prices, higher interest rates and an increase to costs in restaurants and cafés.

Erkki Liikanen, governor at the Bank of Finland, also commented on the new figures. "It is a high figure and shows how important it is to strive for price stability... One of the basic functions of the central bank is secure price stability ... which, in turn, is necessary for improving growth and employment."

He went on to say the bank would monitor the situation across Europe, saying "We will be evaluating the risks facing economies from the angle of price stability and growth, and then when we next meet in March we'll see (if a response is required)."


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Former Senator Chafee endorses Barack Obama

February 15, 2008

Former Rhode Island Senator Lincoln Chafee, a lifelong Republican who left the party in 2007 following a defeat in the 2006 midterm elections, endorsed Democratic Senator Barack Obama in his bid for the White House. Chafee said Obama is the "best candidate to restore American credibility, to restore our confidence to be moral and to bring people together to solve the complex issues".

Chafee was considered a liberal Republican in the Senate disagreeing with his party on issues such as the War in Iraq, abortion, gay rights, global warming and taxes. During the 2006 Congressional elections, he was endorsed by President Bush despite differences on issues, and current Republican front-runner John McCain even campaigned for Chafee. The Rhode Islander said he thinks McCain would "understand" his current endorsement. Chafee lost the 2006 election to Democrat Sheldon Whitehouse, who has endorsed Senator Hillary Clinton for the presidency.

For Obama, the endorsement marks the second former Republican Party member of Congress to support his campaign. In January, John B. Anderson, a 1980 presidential candidate and former Illinois Representative, endorsed Obama.


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Six dead in campus shooting at Northern Illinois University

February 14, 2008 🇺🇸 Six people were killed and 16 others injured in a shooting at the Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, Illinois, United States.

Reports indicate that the shooter emerged from a curtain or a screen at the front of an auditorium in Cole Hall armed with a shotgun and two pistols and began shooting.

Authorities have tentatively identified the shooter as Stephen Kazmierczak. NIU officials said the shooter was enrolled at the university as late as the spring semester of 2007, and was now a student at the University of Illinois in Urbana-Champaign.

Many of the victims were taken to local hospitals. Kishwaukee Community Hospital reported a total of 18 patients brought to the hospital. Of the 18, only two were admitted. Eight of the patients were discharged later in the day, while seven were transferred to other regional hospitals for treatment. One victim died at Kishwaukee Hospital, another died after being transferred to St. Anthony's Hospital in Rockford, while the other four fatalities were confirmed at the scene.

News about the shooting emerged at 3:20 p.m. CST, when a special campus notice was posted on the university's website, indicating the presence of a gunman on campus. Twenty minutes later, NIU announced the cancellation of all classes for the remainder of the evening, and ten minutes after that announcement, NIU officials confirmed there had been a shooting and that emergency personnel were handling the situation.

"The ambulance took away two students on the ground right outside my dorm," Dominique Broxton, a student at NIU, told the Chicago Tribune. "I don't know them. They looked bloody. Where I am right now, there are a lot of police, at least a dozen. There are police cars and trucks everywhere." George Gaynor, a student in the lecture hall when the shooting occurred, added that the shooter looked like "a skinny white guy with a stocking cap on."

The DeKalb County coroner has released the names of all those killed in the attack. In addition to the shooter, those killed included Daniel Parmenter, 20; Catalina Garcia, 20; Ryanne Mace, 19; Julianna Gehant, 32, and Gayle Dubowski, 20. All were students at NIU. Chicago news outlets are also reporting names of four of the surviving victims:

 * Joseph Peterson, a graduate assistant and instructor of the course in session at the time of the shooting.
 * Patrick Korellias, a student in the class at the time of the shooting.
 * J.D. Donohue', a student in the class at the time of the shooting.
 * Ah-Num Rahman, a student in the class at the time of the shooting.

Rahman was transferred to Good Samaritan Hospital in Downers Grove with shotgun wounds to both arms and the side of her face. The other three remain at Kishwaukee Community Hospital.

NIU president John Peters released some details about the shooter during a press conference following the shooting. Kazmierczak had been a student at NIU but transferred to the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign for the current academic year. He was pursuing a graduate degree in sociology, with an emphasis in peace and social justice. Kazmierczak won a Dean's Award for a project in 2006, and was active in the student government while at NIU. Officials at a press conference also indicated that Kazmierczak was taking medication for an unspecified condition, and discontinued use of that medication approximately two weeks prior to the shooting.

The campus of Northern Illinois University is closed until further notice, and officials have announced the cancellation of all athletic events, home and away, through at least Sunday, February 17.


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Talk:Six dead in campus shooting at Northern Illinois University

what exactly is "original" about this report? as far as I can tell everything is from the sources. --SVTCobra 22:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I've been in contact with the DeKalb police dept. and friends who work at the NIU student paper. A lot of what is happening is getting out to the major outlets so there will be a lot of overlap. --Theirishpianist - (talk) 22:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Incidentally I'm keeping an ear out for any press conference and will try and hustle over there if I can. I live only a few miles from the campus of NIU. --Theirishpianist - (talk) 22:44, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Not a source, but a friend of mine who lives in Chicago and whoms father is a DeKalb police officer called him, according to him two casualties...:( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.184.34.79 (talk) 22:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted to thank everyone for their help in getting this article cleaned up. As I said, I live not too far from NIU, and it's been a shock to almost everyone here. There are press conferences tomorrow at NIU and at the hospital, so we should have more information for the article then. --Theirishpianist - (talk) 05:48, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

7 killed --72.73.95.92 16:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Now they're saying it's back to six, including the shooter - the confusion about whether it was six or seven was tied to the fact that some of the more serious cases were transferred to other facilities outside of Winnebago County (where the triage hospital and NIU are both located) --Theirishpianist - (talk) 17:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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I have uploaded an image that may be useful here, Image:Entrance to Cole Hall, morning after the shootings.jpg. -- ReyBrujo - (talk) 18:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


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US military to shoot down errant spy satellite

February 15, 2008 The United States military has announced their intention to use a missile to destroy USA-193, a spy satellite which failed immediately after launch in December 2006. Since launch, the satellite's orbit has decayed and it is approaching the point at which it will re-enter the atmosphere and potentially fall to Earth. The missile will be used as a kinetic anti-satellite weapon (ASAT), and will destroy the satellite through hitting it at high speed.

The satellite potentially has hazardous materials on board, including hydrazine. Ordinarily, the hydrazine would be used as fuel, but since the satellite failed immediately after launch, this was never used. It is expected that about half of the satellite would be capable of surviving re-entry, potentially including the fuel tank. Since hydrazine is toxic, the satellite could pose a severe danger if it hits in a populated area, however it has been considered likely that the tank would probably rupture and explode during re-entry. Destroying the satellite on the grounds of safety is the stated purpose of shooting down the satellite. Officials have denied claims that it is to prevent secrets that the satellite is carrying from falling into the wrong hands, or that it is a demonstration in response to a Chinese ASAT test in January 2007.

The missile which will be used to shoot down the satellite will be a Standard Missile 3 (SM-3), which will be launched from the USS Lake Erie in the North Pacific Ocean. The missile, which was designed to shoot down other missiles, will be modified slightly in order to allow it to recognise USA-193 as its target.

If the attack is successful, the satellite will be broken into many small pieces. This will eliminate the hazard from the hydrazine and break into small enough pieces that nothing will survive reentry. Officials reported that the likelihood of success was "high". NASA Administrator Michael Griffin said that it was impossible to make the situation any worse. Missing the satellite would change nothing, while a slight blow would still result in the satellite returning to Earth, and a direct hit would destroy the satellite. It is believed that the missile will be aimed directly at the satellite's fuel tank.

While the debris will not pass near enough to the International Space Station to cause disruption, it is not clear whether it could affect spacecraft passing through the lower orbit in which USA-193 currently resides. For this reason, the satellite will not be destroyed until the Space Shuttle Atlantis, which is currently conducting mission STS-122, has landed. The debris caused by the satellite's destruction is expected to re-enter the atmosphere within a few weeks.


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Clinton's speech at St. Mary's University stirs debate over abortion

February 14, 2008 Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's trip to San Antonio, Texas renewed an intense debate about the abortion issue.

The Democratic Senator held a rally at the Roman Catholic St. Mary's University after receiving an invitation from the school. San Antonio Archbishop Jose Gomez criticized the school for not consulting with him before offering the invitation. He stated that the candidate's pro-choice position on abortion contradicts the religion's rejection of the practice and added that her "positions against the teachings of the church and life issues" should deem her ineligible for a campaign visit. The University is privately owned and separate from the Catholic Church on decision-making authority. It stated in an official press release that the University does not endorse candidates and that it understood the ideological differences between Senator Clinton and the Catholic Church. Despite this, Archbishop Gomez believed the event involved him since it occurred in his archdiocese, and wondered why Senator Clinton decided to hold a rally at a Catholic University.

Clinton's main strength in past primaries and caucuses have been among Latino voters who have propelled her to victories in California, Nevada and Florida. Most Latinos are Roman Catholic, which might explain Clinton's visit to the University in conjunction with the upcoming March 4 Texas Primary.


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I heard on the radio that 3 of the victims have died and the rest are alive

Another mofo feels depressed so he shoots at random people. What a dick head! Just cause he feels bad, he feels he has the obligation to shoot whoever he wants. This fucking pisses me off. I admit I've been depressed for long periods of time before- that doesn't mean I get to kill innocent people. The government should seriously do something about gun control. It seems like every time a school shooting happens the government tries to sweep it under the rug. They don't do shit about it. It will continue to happen unless someone does something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.181.73.105 (talk) 00:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree. I have no problem with people who want out of this world and want to end their lives, but this trend of taking other people with them is out of control. --SVTCobra 01:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Another one..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.126.222.62 (talk) 06:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

"The government should seriously do something about gun control." Government do something about gun control? I'm SURE gun control would have stopped him from going into that "weapons free" school zone and shooting the place up. The only solution is to arm the faculty to the teeth to keep the students safe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.183.189.146 (talk) 17:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Both of those views are ineffective and useless. The 2nd amendment won't be removed, and you can't arm a staff; no student would feel safe then. There's not necessarily a PROBLEM with the way things are now; people are just abusing the system. 208.80.72.253 17:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I can't help but notice that almost all school shootings take place in the USA. congratulations for having such a fine country. 80.57.174.103 22:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree totally on the above comment. In Australia, we introduced gun control laws after a tragic massacre, and since then there have been significantly lower incidents of gun violence. Pull your head in US, 2nd ammendment or whatever it is is out of date, perhaps relavent in colonial times but certainly not now.

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I don't want to take away from the seriousness of this occurence and I am certainly not wanting to degrade the lives that have been taken away today, but I had to point on the irony in this: "He was pursuing a graduate degree in sociology, with an emphasis in peace and social justice." I guess he failed that course! --Nzgabriel | Talk 09:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Slap me too because I had a laugh when I saw he was in the sociology field. My friend pursuing his PHD in Sociology right now is by far the last person I would ever expect to do anything like this. Sociologists are yaaawwwn. They're the Math majors of liberal arts. .:*:*:DAVUMAYA:*:*:. - (talk) 19:42, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Look up school shootings on here and see that other places have them as well. Yes, the US has more then Canada and The World combined but don't live in ignorance and think they only happen here. Your countries have plenty of problems with violence as well so don't act like it is all rainbows there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.82.171.38 (talk) 04:30, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


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I do think he should be president NOT be clinton.


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User:David Shankbone/Wikinews

The most important question we are faced with: what is Wikinews? There are two competing visions. One is of Wikinews as a news aggregator, that filters stories down to basic facts like the Associated Press; citizens around the world reporting instead of professional correspondents. The problem is that it never materialized, and the side has lacked the "correspondents" that would make us anything resembling the AP. Instead, we had to suffice with taking wire stories or mainstream media stories and creating news stories from those written by other people. There is nothing wrong with those stories, indeed, they are the lifeblood of this site and we need them. But we need more.

The second vision is what I call WikiNewsweek.com. I think this site is far more interesting if the longer vision is of a fully-functioning alternative to Newsweek.com produced by citizens. Instead of seeing Wikinews as a wire service, or an aggregator, my personal vision is of a news magazine whose news articles are written in NPOV. News articles. Essentially, the non-interview content we have now. WikiNewsweek.com, in the long haul, will work to be a citizen-run news magazine, like Newsweek, with breaking news, but also with entertainment guides (I'm sure someone, somewhere would like to write something about what's on television that week, or what movies are coming out), interviews, features, reviews, polls, and a section about what is happening at Wikipedia (ArbCom, ANI, COI, new articles, etc.)

But things need to happen slowly. We can't be BAM! Newsweek.com. I think we need to experiment bit-by-bit because some ideas will work and some will not. We need to involve the Wikimedia Foundation to ensure compliance with their policies. We need to think logistics, but if we can pull it off, and stay true to our core purpose and policies, then I think we could create something groundbreaking.

Editorials
This is my very rough sketchy idea:
 * 1) We create Editorials Bureau
 * 2) Editorials will serve as a place for people to brainstorm ideas, themes and current events that they would like to see addressed.
 * 3) Threads on Wikinews talk:Editorials will develop questions and issues they would like to see addressed, and who they would like to invite to write a short, 500-1000 word editorial on the topic. For instance, one thread might have "Consumerism" as a topic and they want Reverend Billy to write about "Consumerism in the Second Millennium" and a counter-point guest would be someone from the Federation of American Malls, or something.  Another thread might want to ask two economic analysts to discuss the merits or pitfalls of the Flat Tax.
 * 4) Once a thread has come up with a theme/question and a list of people they would like to invite to write on the subject, their Editorial Proposal is put up for a vote by the community. It is a simple up or down vote.

Why this does not harm our policies:
 * 1) NPOV is a policy that is relevant for news reporting, but does not apply to interviews, editorials, reviews, etc.
 * 2) A citizen news site should allow for communal consensus to function in an editorial capacity, thus fulfilling a vital role of most news organizations
 * 3) By inviting differing views, although not all views, we allow the reader to recognize that issues are multi-dimensional.
 * 4) Interviews with notable people, such as the President of Israel, are undeniably news. But they are undeniably that person's opinion throughout.  Thus, inviting two competing viewpoints to discuss an issue is essentially the same thing.

Why we need to do this:
 * Wikinews risks becoming an anachronism. News sites today are more dynamic, and we exist to be a place where anybody can write the news.  Making editorial decision on who will present opinions to us (perhaps one day it will be an honor to be invited by Wikinews to write about an issue for their readers) is still giving citizens a hand in the writing of the news.  Even more interesting, they can write news stories, but they can also take part in the editorial decision-making process.  I think as a first step towards WikiNewsweek.com, this concept will attract more contributors, make the site more interesting, and will breath new life into what has become a fledgling sapling in the shadow of the Great Oak of Wikipedia.

Suggestions and Comments About Rules
Unless I have misunderstood, I agree with the idea (item 1) of an Editorial Bureau where people generate proposals (item 2). I would suggest that the rules only allows proposals to develop under consensus or a majority vote, that would prevent editorials from becoming just another opinion tab. Further, I agree with an invitation only election system (item 3) to determine who writes the editorials; although, the potential problem is that a certain amount of bias could be built into that system. For instance, if a group of people in the U.S.A. outnumber other groups at the English Wikinews sight, they could usurp other editorial viewpoints by only allowing users known to have a bias toward that majority. Perhaps the solution to that is already stated in item 3 where counter-point guests are mentioned. I would suggest another rule (item 5): Each editorial is designated with a disclaimer indemnifying Wikinews in such a way that protects Wikinews. That would require some sort of professional legal assistance to create the disclaimer. Charlessauer - (talk) 09:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

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Can this go here, or should it be moved to the talk page? Anyways, I like the idea of having editorials, a debate between two persons would also be very nice. I would like to see maybe in 2020 election, Wikinews hosting it's own presidential primary debates with major candidates. Heck, who knows within a few years we could be have a debate with minor party candidates filling a gap that the regular media doesn't. --TUFKAAP - (talk) 16:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree. I think if we can get a well-run Editorials Bureau it can coordinate some kind of debate format in the next Presidential election, like YouTube, Facebook, et. al.  --David Shankbone - (talk) 16:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest if you want to create such a site then you launch it yourself rather than trying to turn Wikinews into your "personal vision", something which the WMF will never see appropriate. NPOV is a key principle and when we start allow content to opt out of this we are asking for trouble. One of the ideas behind Wikinews is that is does draw on articles by other news agencies with the intention of presenting material in a neutral position which other agencies might not do so. Interviews past, future, or present, should and can comply with NPOV despite it being based upon the opinion of one person or group. If, for example, you interview someone from "Anonymous" then you should at the end be summarising the opposing view of the Church of Scientology. Doing so provides a more balanced article and gives the reader an improved sense of the context of what is being said.

 * Last weekends Scientology protests provide an indication of the potential for the project. Wikinews was able to provide coverage and photos from many different locations worldwide, showing how when we work together we produce good results. Rather than looking for something new for the site to do which is leading us away from the aims of the project, we should recognise that things will take time to develop. Most (all?) of us are taking our first steps in journalism and we can't expect to be competing with the likes of the BBC just yet. Why is this discussion concerning a significant proposal taking place in a user's space? Adambro - (talk) 19:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Adambro, in case you haven't noticed, a lot of people want to discuss this idea for Wikinews. A lot of people feel our policies for NPOV for news articles does not counteract coming up with an editorial process to create more original content that is news related.  As far as the Userspace, right now nothing is being proposed, ideas are simply being discussed.  Where we create the idea to propose to the wider Wikinews community for a vote is irrelevant.  Anyone is welcome to participate, and once the idea is more fully formed into something that can be proposed, then will move to it to the water cooler.  --David Shankbone - (talk) 20:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

"NPOV is a policy that is relevant for news reporting, but does not apply to interviews, editorials, reviews, etc." Too me that reads like, NPOV is a policy relevant to everything, unless its inconvenient, then it is relevent to whatever we want it to be. The whole idea behind npov is that it is universal; If you sneeze, then you better sneeze neutrally. The loophole being non-main namespace stuff (e.g.user space editorials). Anyways, I have concerns this is a slippery slope, and you definitly would have to rewrite npov for this, it can't just not apply to some sections. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * But NPOV is sacrosanct for facts-based reporting. Why is everything we do on here have to be facts-based reporting?  That is not the end all and be all of this site.  We want to be a news site, and news sites carry editorials.  It's standard, especially if they are notable. It's really not that different from an interview now.  --David Shankbone - (talk) 01:32, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Here is my editorial: I find it odd that Wikinews, Wikipedia and all of the other Wikis appear to be based on the precedence of open source software, yet they simultaneously appear to be dominated by groups that fear for the usurpation of original ideas, mainstream innovation, and research. In contrast, open source software attempts to be innovative, original and driven by research and a commitment to maintenance. Wikis, in contrast, rather than fostering pro bono work, tend to foster ad hoc work. The NPOV policy assertion against something that is relatively benign, like book reviews, sports commentaries, or even editorials where those have known controls and disclaimers exemplifies this assertion, since Wikinews already allows unedited and even anonymous opinions under an “opinion tab”. Charlessauer - (talk) 09:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

My Two Cents
Firstly, let me spell out that I'm not out-and-out opposed to this idea, and I thank David Shankbone for bringing up this proposal. However, I do have a number of concerns:

 * 1) Editorials, by definition, are not NPOV. They exist to push a POV.  I'm not sure how much the foundation would enjoy us declaring a swathe of pages to be exempt from that policy.
 * 2) With regards to POV, what safeguards will be put in place to ensure that the Editorials Bureau is not hijacked by users of a particular political persuasion? I'm not comfortable with the idea of Wikinews constantly shifting large volumes of far-left/far-right/far-libertarian editorial content out of the door, all rubber-stamped by an Editorial Bureau dominated by that particular ideology.  Most community-driven news sites I've seen have fallen into this trap sooner or later.
 * 3) Even aside from the ideological position, the system proposed seems open to abuse via sockpuppets, tactical voting, etc etc.

How do you propose to deal with these issues? Lankiveil - (talk) 23:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC).
 * Good questions.
 * 1 & 2. The question this begs is: what are interviews?  Granted, there is the interviewer there in theory, but interviews are very difficult to conduct, especially when you are doing them live and with someone who is media savvy.  You can ask certain questions, but short of yelling, "Damn you, just answer what I asked!" the interview is essentially a platform for someone notable in some regard to give their take on something--their life, their career, their country...  Editorials will be considered, and will be invited.  Theoretically, we will ask people who will address substantive points from their perspective.  We can do introductions explaining they were asked to write on this topic.  What if we had the opportunity to have the Dalai Lama write about Tibet?  How would an editorial on here not be newsworthy and something we should publish.  There are more ways to skin an NPOV Cat than just in the AP news wire stories.  For instance:  An introduction that explained the nuance in the issue.  Or an invited response to an editorial, where we send it to someone notable and ask them to respond to it (The UN Ambassador to China, e.g.).  The idea is that people are considered in what they want to know about--"Tell me about the Flat Tax"--and who they ask, and it gives us a chance to examine the issue and also have a citizen-generated editorial process.  Also:  there is no news organization that does not carry editorials...I don't see why NPOV is a problem here when there are ways to address that, including interpreting what types of stories NPOV applies to.  Mind you, my Israeli reporting, which was not all NPOV, was supported by the Foundation.
 * 3. The dangers posed by sockpuppets and IPs to the Editorials Bureau is no greater than any other internal process that we or Wikipedia deals with.  Clearly SPAs will be spotted, and dealt with in the same way they are dealt with when trying to write a POV story.  It's not a particular concern of mine as it's been dealt with remarkably well across Wiki projects.

Lastly, I think all editorials should be marked clearly as such. I would even prefer to have a different colored background, maybe a light yellow, so that people don't mistake them for news articles. --David Shankbone - (talk) 00:06, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thats not a bad idea. sort of like PD help on on mediawiki wiki. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:28, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Something to highlight that it is different.  An editorial should be interesting and written by someone notable, but also make it clear this is not part of our facts-based reporting.  I think it would work well.  --David Shankbone - (talk) 01:34, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I would suggest that the precedence for this already exists on Wikinews in the form of an opinion tab; however, the opinion tab appears to be the worst case scenario and demonstrates precisely all of the fears expressed by those in favor of maintaining strict NPOV. With the appearance of an opinion tab, editorials already exist strictly without rules. Editorials, then, offer a better solution than the opinion tab because of the rules-based controls. Charlessauer - (talk) 09:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

My three euro cents
Jacques Divol - (talk) 11:10, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * about POV
 * How do you manage trials as POV editorial open the door to justice court ?
 * How do you manage agent pressure : "Speak of my book, my movie ...".
 * Everyone wants to write POV and editorials, how do you choose people?
 * Wikinews have plenty administrators, why create a new team ? We could Change their names to "editorial manager".
 * How do you manage if "Editorials Bureau is hijacked by users of a particular political or faith persuasion" ? If we leave them write their POV, they'll free to write all they want, we could'nt stop them anymore. Just war. It's a real concern vote or consensus can't control.
 * POV news is everywhere, NPOV news is just Wikinews. If we open POV to Wikinews, why people'ld come to read and write on Wikinews more than all tha others POV news media ?
 * about interviews, book (movie,...) reviews
 * For me, interviews and reviews are just a way to fill pages of newspaper and time on news channels. Real and interresting news are a rare thing, but newspapers (for example) need to sell EACH day so they invented crosswords, strips,...
 * Wikinews have no need to fill something, Wikinews role is to report (get back to people) events. No event no news. it's okay.
 * Why do you want to create news when there's no news ? It's not Wikinews job.
 * book (movie,...) reviews are just advertisment,
 * about developing wikinews audience.
 * We need an open and clear support of the Wikimedia board and Wikimedia chapter.
 * More important : No more news on Wikipedia. It's the more difficult, i agree.
 * Promote why NPOV news are more important for citizen than POV news. (much more difficult)
 * Why not limit editorials to some invited people (well know people outside wikinews) on a specific controled subject (Citizen journalism, for example ?)
 * about enforcing wikinews.
 * We need to unit all the Wikinews under the same goal.
 * We need (at least) a workshop and a full session about during Wikimania.
 * I'm going to grab onto Jacques last point as the crucial one; WN:WM2008 has been set up for people to contribute material intended for use at Wikimania. This is the place we want to get some of our key people to for a serious face-to-face discussion with people like Jimmy and Sue. I'd like to see at least three or four Wikinewsies on the ground covering the event and doing talks/panels/workshops. We need to hijack at least half a day at the event to promote our project and have at least one of the attendant Wikinewsies off the panel and doing the OR on our material. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:31, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Unless the Alexandria Tourism Bureau wants to bring me over Wikimania, I don't think I can swing the cost as much as I would like to; however, if such a workshop is made available, I have access to teleconference capabilities and would enjoy taking part. --David Shankbone - (talk) 16:56, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't afford it either - due to not working from illness and dumping my last contract as the biggest pile of manure I'd seen in over 20 years. I'm hoping some of us can get sponsored to attend. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * There's always the possibility of you both registering for scholarships. No information has been added about this yet, but you can keep track of Scholarships for when it becomes available. (→ Zachary ) 17:20, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Seriously, Brian. I'm with you. It's only been through Wiki work I have been able to have a proper vacation (Rio, not Israel) since December of 2005, when I went to the Cotswolds for a wedding.  How can we all be so smart and so broke?  --David Shankbone - (talk) 17:46, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Newcomer's $.02
I like David's vision of a Wikinewsweek a lot. What strikes me as a total newcomer to the scene is what an under utilized resource this remarkable site is. I think broadening it out to include features that other news sources like newspapers have is an excellent idea. I particularly think having clearly marked editorials and book reviews (or analyses if you wish) is a good idea. The more easily accessible content this site has, the more traffic, the more participants. While I heartily approve of trying for NPOV it is very useful to keep in mind that there really is no such thing. In cases of discussion of issues like books and movies, having a stated POV with information about who is writing the review/analysis can be more useful than a purported NPOV because it gives readers a chance to judge who is giving information rather than dealing with a homogenized mass of facts (bias times five is still bias, however nicely edited). I also think it is important to recognize even the Old Grey Lady herself, the NYT is going towards more and more POV material, including blogs. And their most important POV pieces, their Op-Ed columns, are typically the most popular pieces in the journal. Both liberal and conservative POVs are widely read.

Two general suggestions. First, I would love to see a lot more really local news, everything from school board meetings to high school football games to coverage of small conferences. I think Brock's coverage of events in Taipei is an excellent model for this, especially with his photographs. Somebody commented in some discussion that the way cub reporters get experience is by doing summaries from news sources. This is in fact a very limited part of most newspapers. The bread and butter for most new reporters are local beats, the police beat, weddings and funerals, the local education scene. Would it be possible to set up a "Local" or "Regional" portal that is designed for little stories that are organized by state or locality. New York City news, Wyoming news etc, should all be reachable and regularly updated. This plan would bring with it a number of bonuses including giving an outlet for writers anywhere (you don't need a big budget to cover a local school board meeting). This develops a cadre of local reporters (can you say "I worked for my high school newspaper and think writing for Wikinews would be great!") that can then be drawn upon for reporting important stories where ever they happen. Reporting local also means page views. If Wikinews is the only source for the zoning fight in the Wichita city council, all 84 people interested in the issue will look at the article.

Second, there are national and international stories with very local ramifications that can be addressed very profitably by a group of people in different places. The Anonymous protests are an example of such a group effort but I was thinking that a series of articles on prostitution in different places would be very useful addition to the general discussion and would generate interest. The Eliot Spitzer mess has brought the question to center front and lots of different points of view and information are coming out that would be useful to publish and synthesize in interesting ways (if anybody needs it, I can do graphs and charts of numerical information so we could summarize data from a number of different sources).

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National Hockey League news: February 15, 2008

February 15, 2008

There were 8 games played in the National Hockey League on February 14, 2008, including the #2 Dallas Stars taking on the Phoenix Coyotes, and the Minnesota Wild and Vancouver Canucks fighting for playoff contention in the Northwest division.

Tampa Bay Lightning @ Philadelphia Flyers
The Lightning scored most, and first. A Vaclav Prospal goal in the first, assisted by Martin St. Louis started it off. The Flyers would tie the score with a Joffrey Lupul goal, and eventually took their only lead of the game with a Steve Downie short-handed goal with 36 seconds left in the first period. The Lightning would answer back with a Dan Boyle power-play goal, also assisted by St. Louis, just two minutes into the second period; Jan Hlavac would score another. St. Louis then earned his third point of the game, scoring a goal to give the Lightning a 2 goal lead after 40 minutes. Tampa Bay's Jason Ward scored an un-assisted goal at 2:18 in the 3rd period, and Jeff Carter would add one for the Flyers a few minutes later, but it was too little too late.

Pittsburgh Penguins @ Carolina Hurricanes
Carolina special-teams played a huge part in their home victory against the Sidney Crosby-less Penguins. Erik Cole scored Carolina's first power-play goal 3:13 into the game. Pittsburgh's Brooks Orpik scored to tie it up by the end of 1 period. The second period started with Evgeni Malkin extending his scoring streak to 7 games on a power-play goal. Carolina's all-star MVP Eric Staal would tie the game on a short-handed goal to tie the score going into the second intermission. The third period was all Carolina; Ray Whitney scoring on the power play, his third point of the game. Ryan Bayda would add one more, assisted by Scott Walker and Glen Wesley.

Hurricanes captain and team scoring leader Rod Brind'Amour left the game early after a collision with Penguins Nathan Smith and Georges Laraque. He is reported as having a torn ACL in his left knee, and may not be able to take to the ice for 4-6 months.

New York Islanders @ Toronto Maple Leafs
The Islanders picked up their second straight victory against the struggling Leafs. The Islanders scored first on a Bryan Berard power-play goal late in the first period. Toronto would tie the score in the second period on a Darcy Tucker goal. Leafs captain Mats Sundin would also score to give Toronto their only lead of the game. Ruslan Fedotenko scored for the Islanders, his first of two power-play goals, followed by a Mike Comrie power-play goal. In the third period, Fedotenko scored his second power-play goal at 4:29. Toronto would score a power-play goal of their own, but the Islanders would score late in the game with a Freddy Meyer goal, eventually the game-winning goal. A Leafs goal by Alexei Ponikarovsky would cut New York's lead by half, but with only 19 seconds left in the game, they couldn't put another puck past Islander goalie Rick DiPietro, who stopped 16 of Toronto's 18 3rd period shots.

Chicago Blackhawks @ Nashville Predators
Chicago's offense has been coming up with goals everywhere lately, scoring 13 in their last two games while only allowing 3. Duncan Keith scored first just over a minute into the first period. Jonathan Toews would score a pair of goals later in the period, his 16th and 17th of the season. This would lead Nashville to replace their goaltender Chris Mason, who gave up 3 goals on 7 shots, with Dan Ellis, but he wouldn't do much better. Rene Bourque and Cameron Barker would add to the Blackhawk's lead with a pair of goals in the second period less than a minute apart. Patrick Sharp would also score in the third, his 27th of the season, which Towes assisted in, to put the Blackhawks up by 6. Nashville captain Jason Arnott would stop Chicago goaltender Patrick Lalime's shutout attempt, scoring on the power-play at 6:12 in the third period, but that would be the only goal Nashville would score.

St. Louis Blues @ Colorado Avalanche
Paul Kariya and Jay McClement scored a goal each in the first period for the Blues. Ryan Johnson added to St. Louis' lead with a short-handed goal early in the second period. Ben Guite would put the Avalanche on the board at 3:03 in the third period. David Backes scored on an empty net to salt the victory for the Blues. Manny Legace made 39 saves, improving his record for the season to 21-15-5.

Dallas Stars @ Phoenix Coyotes
Steven Reinprecht, Radim Vrbata and Shane Doan each had a three night as the Phoenix Coyotes picked up their first victory in five games, and their first since the reinstatement of associate coach Rick Tocchet, who had taken a two-year leave of absence from the team following an involvement in an illegal gambling operation. Doan would score first for Phoenix on the power-play, with Reinprecht and Vrbata picking up the assists. Dallas would answer back with an unassisted goal by Jussi Jokinen just minutes later. Phoenix would again take the lead before the period was over on a Daniel Carcillo goal, which was also assisted by Reinprecht and Vrbata. Niko Kapanen would increase Phoenix's lead late in the second period. Vrbata would score a short-handed goal, his third point of the night, which Doan assisted in. Matt Niskanen would cut the Coyotes' lead by 1 less than halfway through the final period. An empty net goal by Nick Boynton would put the icing on the cake, which was assisted by Reinprecht and Doan.

Minnesota Wild @ Vancouver Canucks
Stephane Veilleux had his first career two-goal game, scoring in both the first and second periods for the Wild. Alex Burrows would cut the Minnesota lead in half before the second period ended. The Canucks would gain the lead early in the third, with two goals by Ryan Kesler and Alexander Edler, which were scored just 16 seconds apart. The Wild would retake the lead about ten minutes later, after Kurtis Foster and Marian Gaborik each scored, Gaborik's being his 30th of the season. Vancouver would tie the score late in the third period when Edler scored his second goal of the game right off a face-off to send the game into overtime, and after a scoreless 5 minutes, a shootout. Minnesota goalie Nicklas Backstrom stopped Vancouver's first two attempts by Edler and Ryan Shannon, but allowed the third goal to Trevor Linden. Canuck goaltender Roberto Luongo stopped Gaborik's attempt, but allowed goals from both Brent Burns and Mikko Koivu to give Minnesota the extra point in the standings.

Edmonton Oilers @ San Jose Sharks
After a scoreless first, Ales Hemsky scored a power-play goal early in the second period for Edmonton. Kyle Brodziak would increase their lead later in the period. Joe Pavelski would put the Sharks on the board later in the period to cut the Oilers' lead in half. The Oilers would get the two goal lead back at 3:33 in the third period on a Fernando Pisani, but Mike Grier would answer back for the Sharks with a short-handed goals 5 minutes later. The Oilers' one goal lead would hold, giving Edmonton their 4th win in 5 games.

Other news
The Columbus Blue Jackets activated left winger Fredrik Modin from injured reserve. Modin has already missed 47 games this season after suffering numerous broken bones in his back and a muscle tear in his leg.

Richard Zednik is expected to be released from Buffalo General Hospital Saturday, after having his cartoid artery severed with a skate during a game on February 10.

The Washington Capitals signed left winger Tomas Fleischmann to a two-year contract extension. Fleischmann has scored 6 goals and 15 assists this season.


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Comments:Clinton's speech at St. Mary's University stirs debate over abortion

Why Would a Catholic University Allow Pro-Choice Speakers?
I once heard an example trying to define a philosophical axiom that the whole of an object is contained in a piece. For example, if you take a pie, cut a piece out of the pie, you in essence have the whole of the pie in that one piece. All that the pie contains is in that one piece. On that premise, if you take a human life at conception, all that makes up a human person already exists in that tiny embryo - to destroy it you destroy a person. Why would Senator Clinton want to speak at a University that upholds Catholic doctrine and the right to life for every human being? Why would a Catholic University give an openning to Senator Clinton who neither believes or respects Catholic teaching or the right of human life to exist from the first moment of its conception? This is not a "Catholic issue" it is a "human right's issue." If someone cannot respect life at its very beginning, how could we truly hope she/they would really stand up for the right to life at any stage of life. Given a "reason", it would seem all human life is put at risk. Does inconvinience becomes a woman's right to end a life, or emotional upset, or even a medical danger? —RoseMarie - (talk) 04:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)RoseMarie

You anti-choice guys always avoid the tiny fact that until the brain begins to function the “thing” is nothing but a parasite in a woman's body. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.210.104.18 (talk) 09:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Clinton's Speech at St Mary's Univ. Re: debate over abortion
Religious beliefs and Politics are two separate things. Mrs Clinton is only appealing to the people to vote for her. Pro-choice is just that, a choice. We as women can not allow the chuch or government to dictate what we do with our anatomy or how many children we choose to have or not. It scares me the stronghold male dominance has on us. It also concerns me the things they do to keep that. It is effident by the number of males that just can't stand the thought of voting for Hillary, simply because she is a woman. In addition, there is no reason, other than men are in charge of the Catholic church rules, that we should be allowed to be Priests. Mandy LLamas, San Jose, CA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.107.126.57 (talk) 12:16, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I wish I were a woman
Then I could hold exactly the same positions that I currently hold -- that a fetus' right to live is more important than a woman's right to kill it, that there are many worthy women who I would be happy to vote for who aren't Hillary Clinton, and that there are many religions who ordain women, and if you think the Catholic Church is wrong, then join one of them -- without being called a hypocrite.

I guess she could still accuse me of being a traitor to my gender and brainwashed by the man-centric male-ocracy, and maybe she would be right. -161.88.255.139 16:16, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


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Earthquake in East Africa's Lake Kivu kills at least one and injures scores

February 15, 2008

Lake Kivu, which is on the border between the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and Rwanda, has been hit by an earthquake that measured 5.4 on the Richter Scale. This earthquake is the third to hit the area this month and follows an earthquake that took place 11 days ago and killed almost 40 people.

"Some houses have collapsed and there are injuries, but I do not yet have the details," said the mayor of the city on the DRC side of the border. "A lot of people left their homes during the night," he said. The area is on the East African Rift System, which is what causes the earthquake to form. The mayor of the town on the Rwandan side of the border said, "The houses that came down are mainly those devastated by the February 3 earthquake."

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Comments:Inflation in Finland reaches 7-year high at 3.8%

''Erkki Liikanen, governor at the Bank of Finland, also commented on the new figures. "It is a high figure and shows how important it is to strive for price stability... One of the basic functions of the central bank is secure price stability ... which, in turn, is necessary for improving growth and employment."''

Yeah, you're putting the blame on the 'ineptitude' of the free market; but the government.....completely controls the money.....Fephisto - (talk) 16:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Malaysian Prime Minister dissolves Parliament, makes way for elections

Please note that Abdullah Ahmad Badawi is a Malay. The Malays generally follow the system of naming one's offspring as the child of the father. Therefore, the Malaysian Prime Minister's name is essentially Abdullah. Ahmad Badawi is actually his late father.

Please note that Abdullah Ahmad Badawi is a Malay. The Malays generally follow the system of naming one's offspring as the child of the father. Therefore, the Malaysian Prime Minister's name is essentially Abdullah. Ahmad Badawi is actually his late father.