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Java creator criticizes .Net

James Gosling, the creator of the Java programming language, said last week that he believes Microsoft is wrong in its decision to support C and C++ programming languages in the common language runtime in Microsoft .NET. According to him, this decision may lead to severe security flaws in .NET. Gosling is currently in Australia, giving talks and visiting friends.

According to Gosling, the problem lies with the programming languages and some of their characteristics: “C++ allowed you to do arbitrary casting, arbitrary adding of images and pointers, and converting them back and forth between pointers in a very, very unstructured way."

The Java language was developed due to limitations of C++. Gosling began using C++ for the former Sun Microsystems's star-seven project. At that time Gosling concluded C++ was inadequate and created the Oak language. The Oak language would become the language known today as Java. The former star-seven project shares its defining characteristics with networked software applications today: safety and portability.

Gosling continues: "If you look at the security model in Java and the reliability model, and a lot of things in the exception handling, they depend really critically on the fact that there is some integrity to the properties of objects. So if somebody gives you an object and says 'This is an image', then it is an image. It's not like a pointer to a stream, where it just casts an image."

Charles Sterling, a Microsoft developer and product manager of the .NET framework, didn’t entirely disagree with Gosling’s thoughts. But he said that .NET defines different types of code. And there is the code which is managed by the .NET framework. All new Microsoft languages, such as C# and Visual Basic.NET, produce only code managed by the .NET framework, so they are safe.

A key idea that has not shown up in Gosling's talk is that Java itself allows a very similar process to occur. Java's JNI (Java Native Interface) allows the integration of the same unsafe code that prompted Gosling's central thesis.

However, Gosling says languages like C and C++ can still produce unsafe code which would not follow the rules of safety of .NET. This sort of code, usually found in old software applications, requires additional .NET permissions to execute. Sterling says it is up to developers to decide whether or not to use unsafe code in their .NET applications.

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GNU Hurd operating system: first user program run using L4 microkernel

February 5, 2005

A collaboratively-developed operating system kernel known as GNU Hurd has been made bootable using the L4 microkernel, which provides room for significant speed improvements over an existing implementation using the Mach microkernel. The newer architecture also has a more lively developer community.

Developer Marcus Brinkmann made the historic step and finished the process initialization code, which enabled him to execute the first software on Hurd-L4. In a message to the L4 port of GNU Hurd mailing list, Brinkmann wrote, "We can now easily explore and develop the system in any way we want. The dinner is prepared!". However, the kernel's current feature set is very limited. "With my glibc port, I can already build simple applications, but most won't run because they need a filesystem or other gimmicks (like, uhm, fork and exec), and I only have stubs (dummy functions which always return an error) for that now," he added in a later posting.

Compared with Linux and BSD Unix's monolithic kernel architecture, a microkernel based operating system provides developers greater modularity and isolation from hardware, a big win with L4 already being available for a large number of hardware varieties.

There is a cost in speed for such abstraction, and this cost was higher on Mach, at around 15%, compared with only around 5% on L4 and it's predecessor L3, both developed by Dr. Jochen Liedtke.

The greater modularity and abstraction of a microkernel approach means that the microkernel itself does not need constant modification as is seen in the Linux kernel today, since it provides only the very minimum of services, and does so very carefully. Thus, the fact that L4 was developed in 1996 is seen as exemplifying this stability -- rather than showing its age -- since few, if any, improvements in approach have been imagined in the meantime.

However, the Mach kernel first developed ten years earlier at Carnegie Mellon University is seen as a flawed first implementation, with the lessons learned being implemented in microkernels like L4, known as second-generation microkernels.

The GNU Hurd forms the base of the GNU operating system, much of which has been widely adopted by users of other Unix-like operating systems, including Linux. The GNU Project has been developing the Hurd since 1983. In 1990, the GNU Project decided to use the Mach kernel, rather than writing their own. The Hurd is released as free software under the GNU General Public License (GPL).

The Hurd kernel is an experiment which aims to surpass existing Unix kernels in functionality, security, and stability, while remaining largely compatible with them. It currently runs on Intel IA32 machines. According to the GNU Hurd project, "The Hurd should, and probably will, be ported to other hardware architectures or other microkernels in the future".

`Hurd' stands for `Hird of Unix-Replacing Daemons'. And, then, `Hird' stands for `Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth' - perhaps the first software to be named by a pair of mutually recursive acronyms.

A limited port of Linux already runs on L4, known as L4Linux.

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/


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UN board supported Saddam Hussein's regime, says Iraq's ambassador

At UN World Headquarters in New York on Friday, February 4, 2005, Iraq's ambassador to the United Nations, Samir Sumaidaie, declared to reporters that the international body of the United Nations helped the regime of Saddam Hussein. This allegation came one day after the former U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker delivered a preliminary report of the investigation into the United Nation's Oil-for-Food program with Iraq under Saddam Hussein. Sumaidaie says he has serious doubts about the role of the former UN secretary-general Boutros Boutros-Ghali although there is no charge against him in the report.

In an interview with Voice of America reporter Peter Heinlein, Sumaidaie : "In the early days, the secretariat bent over backwards to please the Saddam regime. At that time it was Boutros Boutros-Ghali who was the Secretary-General. And the report asserts that he tried to please the Saddam government by accommodating its requests which laid the basis for most things that went wrong later.... What's clear to me is that Saddam and his regime were able to manipulate things in such a way as to get what they wanted out of this program."

In a recent interview with the New York Times, Sumaidaie said the inquiry's investigators were ignorant of the UN system and that their allegations were silly.

After being questioned by journalists, the current UN secretary-general Kofi Annan said: "Each Secretary-General has to do things his way and in accordance with the circumstances that he finds himself in. I think Mr. Boutros-Ghali has indicated in the report, the environment and the circumstances in which he was taking those decisions and I don't want to second-guess him."

On Friday, Annan said there were some hard knocks in the report and said he would take action promptly: "We do not want this shadow to hang over the UN, so we want to get to the bottom of it."

Related news

 * UN IIC report faults former "Oil-for-Food" director February 3, 2005.


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Crosswords/2005/February/5

February 5, 2007

Feel free to use the Wikimedia sites to solve our Wikinews crossword (Please do not fill it out online as it would spoil it for other people, print it out and fill it in at you own leisure!)
 * < Yesterday's crossword.

Quick crossword
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 * 6. Manner of use (5)
 * 9. Medical institutions (9)
 * 10. Group of people (esp. indigenous) (5)
 * 11. Express hesitation (10)
 * 12. Malevolent (4)
 * 14. Nobility (5)
 * 17. Substance (6)
 * 19. Skewer (6)
 * 20. Frosting (5)
 * 21. Modifies verb or adjective (6)
 * 22. Carried heavy object (6)
 * 23. Occasion (5)
 * 26. LSD (colloq.) (4)
 * 29. Temperature measure (10)
 * 31. Instrument (5)
 * 32. Tea not in bags (5-4)
 * 33. Genuflect (5)
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Answers tomorrow.
 * 1. Map (5)
 * 2. Biblical song (5)
 * 3. Metal used for galvanization (4)
 * 4. Fruit (6)
 * 5. Famous Hitchcock movie (6)
 * 7. Text of visual work (eg text of 5 down) (10)
 * 8. Xena sidekick (9)
 * 13. Presence (10)
 * 14. Inducement (5)
 * 15. Pay rise (5)
 * 16. Counterpart to daytime (5)
 * 18. Kidnapping (9)
 * 24. Able to live (6)
 * 25. Little room lengthwise (6)
 * 27. Cut (6)
 * 28. Rod (6)
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Talk:ConocoPhillips announces $1bn share repurchase

Please do not use the company logo by itsel .. it gives me no meaning whatsoever, and simply looks like a product placement.

At least put it over an oil gusher or whatever is appropriate, or please remove it. Simeon 08:50, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Me bad. I'm trying to figure out a good image for "stock buy-back to prop up valuation, dividends"... I think the logo is appropriate for this particular article, which is an Economy and business article, but it should perhaps not be on the archive page (which shows on the main page.) And I was the one who placed it there... - Amgine 15:31, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)


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New York court rules in favor of same-sex marriage

Five same-sex couples won a major victory Friday as a New York State court ruled that gay couples must be allowed to marry.

Doris Ling-Cohan, a New York state Supreme Court justice, said New York’s state constitution guarantees lesbian and gay people equal access to marriage rights that are violated when same-sex couples are not allowed to marry.

"This is a historic ruling that delivers the state Constitution's promise of equality to all New Yorkers," Susan Sommer, Supervising Attorney at Lambda Legal Defense Fund, said in a statement to reporters.

In the New York State justice system, the Supreme Court is court in which cases originate, and is not the highest court. Decisions from the Supreme Court may, with reason, be appealed to the Appellate Division, and possibly beyond that to the Court of Appeals, the highest court in the New York State justice system.

Justice Ling-Cohan ordered the New York City Clerk's office to start issuing marriage licences to same-sex couple within 30 days. An appeal is expected.


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Missing Afghan jet found; 104 believed dead

February 5, 2005

On Saturday NATO and Afghan troops located the wreckage of the  missing since Thursday.

Afghan interior ministry spokesman Latfullah Mashal announced the discovery. "The debris of the plane was found around 25 kilometers east of Kabul in a mountainous area called Band-e Ghazi."

The jet had been enroute to Kabul from when it was diverted due to heavy snow. The crew then sought clearance to land across the border in, before it lost contact with air control. 104 persons are reported to have been aboard, including 8 crew members; there are no signs of survivors reported.

The weather conditions have hampered search and rescue efforts. NATO-operated helicopters located the crash site. Afghan police and units from Afghanistan's foreign peacekeeping force are investigating the scene of the crash, according to Mr. Mashal.


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Talk:GNU Hurd operating system: first user program run using L4 microkernel

I feel that despite (the IMO) improvements to this article it is not stressed strongly enough that with the Hurd now running on L4 we might be seeing the first of its comming of age in quite a long time.

On the other hand the Hurd has been "comming" since the mid-1990s so this might not be such a big step after all. --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 19:20, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)


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G7 announce debt relief plan

The quarterly G7 Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors' meeting at Lancaster House concluded on February 5, 2005, with the G7 failing to agree on a plan to reduce debt in developing countries. According to the Los Angeles Times, British Chancellor of the Exchequer Gordon Brown announced that he believes, "this summit will be remembered as the summit for 100% debt relief" for the 27 countries involved in the Enhanced HIPC Initiative. Ministers from other G7 countries disagreed. Brown's so-called International Financial Facility proposal, or IFF, "would not work for the U.S," Undersecretary of the U.S. Treasury John Taylor said to the Los Angeles Times.

The joint statement issued by the ministers in the wake of the conference stated that, "We are agreed on a case-by-case analysis of HIPC countries, based on our willingness to provide as much as 100 per cent multilateral debt relief." The ministers did not cite a figure for the minimum amount of debt relief that would be provided.

The conference was preceded by a demonstration in Trafalgar Square on the theme of "Make Poverty History." Nelson Mandela spoke at the demonstration, attended by an estimated 20,000 people, according to World Development Movement, an organization involved in the planning of the event. Chancellor Brown invited Mandela to address the G7 on February 4, 2005, which he did in a "fireside chat," according to Larry Elliott of The Guardian.

The G7, or 'Group of Seven,' is a coalition of seven major industrial democracies: the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United States, and Canada. They hold quarterly meetings to discuss financial matters.

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Bob Marley birthday celebrations marked by dispute over possible reburial

The celebrations to mark the 60th birthday of Bob Marley, the reggae musician who died of cancer in 1981, have been marked by controversy. Since his death these festivities have always taken place in Jamaica, but this year they are taking place in Ethiopia, and particularly in the town of Shashamane, which is where the former Ethiopian Emperor and Rastafarian God Haile Selassie gave land to the Rastafarians to settle on nearly 40 years ago.

The controversy was sparked last month by Bob's wife Rita Marley's comments that she wanted his body to be reburied in Ethiopia. Such was the wave of disapproval generated that she quickly backed away from her original statement, but the question as to where his remains should lie is now being hotly debated both in Jamaica and the rest of the world.

As a Rastafarian Bob Marley's spiritual home was in Africa, and specifically in Ethiopia. Yet he only visited the country once, and according to those who want his remains to stay in Jamaica, he was entirely a product of Jamaican culture.


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Uribe-Chavez meeting postponed

The Colombian President Alvaro Uribe Vélez was forced to cancel the planned meeting with the Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez on Thursday. He is suffering from gastrointestinal and labyrinthitis problems.

Uribe remains hospitalized in the Naval Hospital of Cartagena in Colombia.

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Talk:Republicans Subpoenaed in Ohio Recount

this article should be renamed: it does not pertain to the recount. it pertains to a legal contest of the election, known as "Moss v. Bush". 216.170.211.232 21:18, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Crossword poll

Regarding:

There is debate about allowing the use of crossword puzzles to be published by Wikinews. Currently, some users have taken responsibility for maintaining regular publishing of crossword puzzles.

Those supporting the publishing of crossword puzzles say that crosswords are a common feature of newspapers and are often associated with news, and that they help increase people's visits to Wikinews.

Those against the publishing of crossword puzzles say that the puzzles are games, and don't fit the mission of Wikinews to provide only news.

Those neutral think that the crosswords are not hurting anyone.

The Rules:

 * This is a consensus based poll. If no clear consensus emerges, the results will not hold.
 * Must be logged onto Wikinews
 * One vote per person
 * Votes must be signed
 * Anything beyond a short statement next to a vote should be on the talk page.
 * Closing date of 00:00, Sunday February 20th, 2005, UTC.

=Voting ended February 20, 2005 at 00:00 UTC.=

Yes

 * 1) However, if someone held a gun to my head and forced me to vote up or down, I would admit that I find the crossword puzzle to be a pleasant, and brief diversion from the deadly serious stories of the day. In case anyone is worried, this feature has not caused me to lose focus and become addicted to crossword puzzles. — DV 00:52, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) --Munchkinguy 06:07, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Dan100 (Talk) 13:15, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Dysprosia 14:33, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Might I suggest that the crossword be a link from the main page, perhaps a very small graphic, but not actually featured in whole on the main page? - McCart42 17:17, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) IlyaHaykinson 07:35, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC) Changed vote from Neutral to Yes, after amending the Mission statement.
 * 7) -- Davodd | Talk 09:55, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC) Although, I hope this can be used as a launching pad for a future wikipuzzles.org site since in the long run, this may not be the best venue for this type of content.
 * 8) It only improves the sites attractiveness and stickiness; and besides it adds some fun to the site - as people know, the majority of news articles then to be negative; thats one of the reasons newspapers publish comic strips and crosswords. CGorman 21:22, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 9) Samaritan 00:08, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 10) cdnjay 04:40, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 11) Yep. They draw readers. 66.61.22.115 04:32, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC) This user is not signed in. The bellman 11:14, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 12) Yes, I like them :D --Mac Davis 10:20, 17 Feb 2005
 * 13) Yep, nothing wrong with 'em  The bellman 11:14, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 14) Den fjättrade ankan 12:26, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 15) Seems to make sense. 198 17:22, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * 16) Let the website blossom into a major news outlet, like the BBC News, CNN or The Guardian 159753 20:58, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No

 * -- Davodd | Talk -- [But I will change my vote to yes if someone can justify how non-news games fit under our mission statement] -- Davodd | Talk 20:02, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * See Wikinews talk:Crossword poll - Amgine 20:43, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm all alone in this, obviously, but no. Why crosswords? It's not news. Should we not then have some Javascript car games, and maybe opinion polls, and why not add a blogging module, and a help page on how to use CSS, a pornography index, a dictionary and... well, whatever you fancy really. I just don't get this. It's utterly bizzare. That said, I have no problems with creating a Wikicross.org or something. But wikinews, it ain't. --Regebro 13:59, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * No, not on Wikinews. Maybe the idea can be saved for a kind of Wikientertainment project. Andrea Tassi 23:56, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Xcjm 22:21, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Neutral

 * 1) This is not a great moral crisis. :) — DV 00:48, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) IlyaHaykinson 01:11, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC) - I would prefer not to have these in the main namespace. But I also wouldn't revert away from them if they're in place. Changed to a Yes vote. IlyaHaykinson 07:35, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Simeon 10:10, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC) It doesn't seem a good idea as such, but if people actually want to do it, then I won't stop them. My main concerns are
 * a) that this could set a precedent for inclusion of other things and the site loses focus (thin edge of the wedge)
 * b) that it could clutter up the front page, which I think already still has too much - the large version of the weather map reportedly is still too large, and I think duplicates the small version so why have it? It is hard to resolve these things collaboratively, so less is better.
 * However, I vote neutral because in principle, to the crossword itself only, I have no strong objection. Crosswords help people build vocabulary etc - useful in news writing/editing, and as has been mentioned, it provides welcome diversion to some and may bring traffic. I suspect there are good reasons they exist in every newspaper I know of.
 * But I do expect the two conditions being met: focus of the site is strongly on news, and front page has minimal clutter. Portals failed in 1997, and for good reason.
 * Not all portals failed. Ahem... -> http://www.yahoo.com/ (looks pretty cluttered, too)
 * Although Yahoo's stock was hit in the dot com crash, if I had bought it in '96 or even '97 and held it until now, I would have a respectable return on my investment. (Sorry for the offtopic post.) — DV 18:04, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Wikinews talk:Crossword poll

Polls are Divisive
I am strongly opposed to the use of polls for every small issue on which there is debate. They are by nature divisive. - Amgine 21:34, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

About Wikinews polls
The crossword puzzle is a pleasant diversion from the deadly serious stories of the day.

However, I'm starting to understand some of the negative comments regarding the perceived harm of such a diversion to the focus of the Wikinews site, so I'm neutral concerning the outcome of this poll.

However, please allow me a short opportunity to comment on what I've witnessed so far in Wikinews polls.

On a site as young as Wikinews, it appears to be impossible to control a poll for fairness.

As we saw with the logo contest, Wikinews polls are easily distorted by many "drive-by" voters, who rarely or never contribute to the site. This causes a "consensus" to be reached that does not reflect the views of the contributors who actually participate on this site.

If Wikinews were a more mature site like Wikipedia, with a larger number of regular contributors, we could have a fair vote.

As our voting process now stands, flipping a coin would be an equally fair method to determine the outcome.

Nevertheless, I appreciate Ilya's attempt to mediate this dispute, so I will go and vote.

Regards,

— DV 00:28, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * I believe more time and effort has already been lost in the disagreement than will ever be lost in adding diversionary content to the site. However, in a blatantly biased phrasing of the poll there will never be consensus. Further, there are no policies in place to allow, govern, or judge the poll. I am very strongly opposed to the use of a poll in this case. - Amgine 00:37, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree - more "focus" is being lost by debating whether or not to keep the puzzle than the puzzle will ever divert from anyone on its own merits.

 * Is anyone seriously in danger of needing intervention to attend a 12-step meeting to address their addiction to crossword puzzles, brought on by Wikinews? :)

 * Please consider that if the crossword puzzle is rejected, it will be a slap in the face to long-time Wikipedia contributor Dysprosia, who has made a fine contribution to Wikinews by supplying these puzzles.

 * The puzzle is easily ignored if you don't go for that type of thing.

 * There is a long tradition for crosswords in otherwise serious news outlets. It's one of the few types of "games" that force the "player" to think. If it has topical references, it's another way in which those references become absorbed into the fabric of our culture.

 * The argument that a puzzle weakens the focus of Wikinews is understandable, however it does so only in the abstract. In practice, no one will be diverted from contributing news stories to Wikinews unless the puzzles are extremely difficult, and take many hours to solve, in which case most sane folks would give up that day's puzzle. — DV 01:01, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * I believe, in this particular case, there is an effort to frame the question in a particular manner which is unfair, and unwiki, as witness your own correction to the poll. "allow"? in the main namespace? Which is not the reality of "Remove from Wikinews", which would be the result of this poll. I report on politics; I don't play the game. - Amgine 01:22, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Oh give me a home where contributors roam
I'm on a WikiBreak, so pretend this comes from some anonymous twit. (I would have not logged in, but somehow that feels dishonest. :-)

I propose we start a poll on whether this poll was appropriate, then elect a committee to investigate that poll, have it cast a decision, and implement this subject to the approval of Jimbo and the board of trustees.

Failing that, we could stop wasting time and let people who want to work on crossword puzzles work on crossword puzzles.

Wikinews is not paper. That means "Wikinews does not need to follow every convention a newspaper does", not "Wikinews should eschew all conventions of newspapers that are not directly news-related". Otherwise, get rid of the water cooler, the mailing list, the IRC channel and all the other non-news related nonsense, so we can get down to business. Yeah, yeah, I know. False analogy. Don't worry, this is just rhetoric, not an argument based on logic. The whole issue is too silly for logic.

And as to the validity of this poll, if I may quote: "Closing date of 00:00, Sunday January 20th, 2005, UTC." What's sadder? People maintaining a crossword puzzle or people cut-and-paste polling on everything they don't like? One day, "consensus" will be synonymous with "poll" on the Wikisomethings—we're very close to that already. If that day comes, I'll close up shop and become an anon contributor again. I'm just afraid that by that time, anons will no longer be allowed to edit. This all makes me sad, really. Sure, it's just one person's initiative, but I feel it reflects attitudes that are all too common these days. Clap your hands if you believe in common sense and cooperation! :-)

When readers start to complain en masse about the crossword, that's when I'd get worried. Don't try to kill contributor initiatives because you don't like them, kill them if you can make the argument that the project is harmed by them (and "some contributors might spend time I think is better spent on other things" isn't going to cut the mustard, sorry). JRM 12:02, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Of course, the problem is - the people who insist on the poll are probably not reading the discussion page. I suspect they don't want to actually discuss it. - Amgine 18:13, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * JRM, I agree with the idea that not everything should be subject to a poll. However, in all fairness, my sense is that Ilya started the poll because the question was at loggerheads over intractable positions.

 * If you have some creative ideas how to mediate between these two perspectives, I'm sure it would be appreciated.

 * Amgine, I haven't seen anyone unwilling to discuss the issue, I just think a few contributors have fairly fixed ideas about what constitutes a news site, while other contributors are more flexible and don't take what we're doing here quite so seriously.

 * I'm not discounting either side.

 * It's curious that no one has voted "No" just yet, so perhaps no one really has strong objections after all.

 * — DV 18:33, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * I have not seen discussion about the issue from those opposed to crosswords. I have seen a single argument put forth: crosswords are not news. This argument is, of course, a POV. On the other hand, people in favour of the crosswords have discussed several justifications for it, as well as justifications for its exclusion, have brought up where it should be linked to (arguing for and against various placements), and have come up with compromises.
 * But not in the poll. - Amgine 18:44, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I have two opinions.

First, we can and we should judge the benefits & harms of having any feature, rather than categorically accept or reject them because they are in a conventional English-language newspapers or because they are not news. For example, op-eds are possibly against our neutral policy. So we should be concerned. If we accept op-eds, we should accept only those that don't contradict with the policy.

Do we possibly allow other common newspaper features such as cartoon strips, op-eds, classifieds, letters from readers, etc.? Is this a slippery slope we are on? I see some of the non-news features useful in terms of, say, developing a stable readership. Not necessarily if we discuss and assess individual features.

This first opinion (more about general principle) I hope is agreeable for those of you who don't agree with my take on crosswords' potential benefits and harms.

Second, my personal (not-so-confident) assessment of benefits and harms of crosswords are as follows:
 * 1) (Pro) We are not only news source like a wire news agencies are, but we are creating news sites. For that reason, we value readers-site visitors, as well as news outlets who use our news as resource.
 * 2) (Pro) If we can supply free crossword puzzles, it could potentially be one more reason news outlets would use our resource.
 * 3) (Pro) It is good to have some fun.
 * 4) (Con) Many crosswords tap into trivias on things like old movies and TV shows. Could we possibly lose a bit of our global nature if we offer crosswords that require extensive knowledge of, say, British social and cultural histories and not that of American, Indian, or Australian?
 * 5) (Con) We do not have ample human resources right now. If an extra feature creates lots of concerns, such as the neutrality issue, then we better give it up and focus on news.
 * 6) (Con) It is good to be pure and professionally focused on news production.

Based on these, I think crosswords are welcome as long as they do not have strong cultural bias or neutrality problem. Is it likely to create those problems? Perhaps not, given that the contributor is a trusted wikipedian. If the crosswords can draw on vocaburaries used in the news, that would be quite an enhancement.

Tomos 23:43, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The Mission Statement
is a misnomer. But regarding Davodd's vote: First, put forth an argument as to why it is not news. Second: - Amgine 20:45, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape. Under the "news and only news" interpretation, some of the things which do not belong on wikinews main page: Weather forecasts (predictive), watercooler, mailing list, #wikinews, welcome, newsroom, get involved, sister projects. Yet all of these are elements of building a great and unique media resource, as do Crosswords.
 * While we are faced with many new challenges, Wikinews will adopt the key principles which have made Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia websites what they are today: neutrality, free content, and an open decision-making process. Under the guidance of an open decision-making process, Wikinews can - and should - determine its own content.
 * we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us. This points directly at both the source question, and the useful characteristic. The crossword is a contributed content; the contributor attempts to make each crossword relevant to recent news, as well as informing and educating the readers which are certainly elements of the fourth estate. It is also specifically useful as it has increased traffic to the site.

 * I have added the following to the mission statement:
 * Wikinews will be a resource both informational and entertaining. We will welcome contributors and encourage them to explore different concepts of presenting interesting, timely information. We will seek out new formats of presenting our content, and will strive to open doors to let people across the world benefit from our work.
 * -- IlyaHaykinson 07:44, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Why I no longer support my objection to crosswords
Folks, I'd like to apologize for misreading the community quite a bit. It was premature and probably unnecessary to start the poll, given the existing venues available for discussion.

I've been following the discussion here, and looking at other news sites (public and private) and have come to understand that my view of this issue was very limited and unnecessarily biased.

I changed my vote from Neutral to Yes to reflect my point of view. Sorry for causing an unnecessary debate where not much of one really seems to exist. -- IlyaHaykinson 07:55, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Bob Marley birthday celebrations marked by dispute over possible reburial

I thought both JA and Ethiopia maps is good neutral point of view. Squeakfox 01:06, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Bob Marley Reburial
He must be laid to rest in Shashamane, if we are to respect his wishes. If you knew him and the message in his music and in his general conversation, he desired to be in Africa.

Bob Marley Reburial
He must be laid to rest in Shashamane, if we are to respect his wishes. If you knew him and the message in his music and in his general conversation, he desired to be in Africa. (Ras Chiba, Rutgers University 1983).

Bob Marley
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FARC attack: 16 Colombian soldiers dead

The Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia-FARC attacked Colombian navy soldiers at the city of Iscuandé, Nariño in Colombia. 16 soldiers from the navy died in the attack and 25 were injured.

The attack started at 02:40 and finished at 05:20 yesterday February 1st. This was one of the most severe attacks made by the FARC in the last few years.

The navy soldier John Jaider Foronda described the attack to the Colombian Caracol Radio:"I was sleeping. It was 02:30 when we heard the cylinder exploding. It sounded like a bomb. It was at the house of my lieutenant. I got pieces of grenade in my leg and arm." .

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Talk:UN board supported Saddam Hussein's regime, says Iraq's ambassador

Is this title good or do you think we should change it to a better one? -- Carlosar
 * The title is fine, but I removed this sentence:
 * Boutros-Ghali could not be contacted by phone.
 * because I did not think you had attempted to contact Mr. Boutros-Ghali yourself. If I am mistaken, please restore it. - Amgine 00:38, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)


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Inquiry to be held into Australian immigration detention of Australian woman

Australian Prime Minister John Howard has announced an Inquiry into the "very regrettable incident" of a mentally ill Australian woman being detained for months and allegedly maltreated by the country's own Immigration Department.

The woman, Cornelia Rau, still insisted she was German Anna Schmidt, according to her sister Christine yesterday. "I think it will take a long time for her to stabilise," she said. "At the moment she doesn't accept that she is Cornelia and she doesn't want to see us."

"She is still insisting her name is Anna Schmidt and that her passport is in Baxter and that she wants to return to Germany."

Refugee advocate Pamela Curr claims Ms Rau was held in isolation for 18 to 20 hours a day in Baxter's 'Red One' isolation facility, where she was allegedly kept in simulated daylight for 24 hours a day.

Her family had only discovered her whereabouts through a refugee-initiated effort to identify the woman, authorities having failed to connect the unidentified detainee with her missing person file, held by New South Wales Police since August last year.

After her family recognised media reports of her on Thursday, and contacted the police, her photo was emailed to the Baxter compound and her identity confirmed.

The schizophrenic woman had spent six months in a Queensland prison, according to Channel Nine News, as well as at least two months in immigration detention, according to various sources. Earlier reports had her being handed over to immigration authorities over 10 months ago, with only five days spent in custody with Queensland Police.

Ms Rau is presently recuperating in hospital.


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Sports footwear companies progress towards eliminating sweatshops

February 6, 2005 A United Nations report has shown that sports footwear companies are making progress towards ending the use of sweatshops and are implementing more worker-friendly codes of practice than clothing companies and retailers.

The study, published by the International Labour Organisation, suggests that consumer pressure is behind the changes. As a result of consumer's concerns, footwear companies have been diverting financial and human resources towards developing and implementing better codes of conduct for suppliers. Large teams have been established within companies to work toward the goal of better conditions for factory workers.

The study, based upon interviews with hundreds of managers, activists, government officials, factory workers and worker representatives and visits to companies all over the world, goes on to suggest that workers should be given more powers to oversee conditions in their places of work.

Clothing companies have been failing to make such good progress due the large number of constantly-changing suppliers they use, with the ILO study describing progress as "spotty." A major retailer may have a supply base of over 5,000 different companies, making it more difficult to establish stronger, more effective links with supply companies. They have also assigned less manpower to the task of compliance with codes of practice.

In some areas of the retail industry, there has been almost no compliance with codes of practice.


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Hack?
"I want your this script (MediaWiki) Give me IT..! If you don't give me it, i hack this site I am here --> SiNBaD@SohbetLive.Com MSN & Mail" what in the world? (:O) -Nima Baghaei talk · cont · email 17:47, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Algerian news --> second lead
Can we please make the algerian second lead instead of first, its a day old, and i am tired of all this killing nonsense being given first lead. Instead please give the NASA plant finding first lead spot (:O) -Nima Baghaei talk · cont 04:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Archives

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Top Story
Can someone please re-insert the template for the lead story back into the workspace. DragonFire1024is Jason Safoutin 21:08, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

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Lead is protected - Darfur?
Can a newbie propose a lead? It is current, hard news and well-written.

If you have privileges to edit the lead, please consider this piece from Fentonrobb. --InfantGorilla 00:52, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Recent change
I think 1st lead should be newer than 2nd lead if the importance of both news items are comparatively similar. I don't see a possible coup more important than a civil war underway... Towsonu2003 01:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

White Space
Can someone reduce the White space that you see on the main page? DragonFire1024 11:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I am saddened . ..
. . . by how long U.S. may attack Iran on April 6 has been the lead already. I know that I could change it, but after my contributions to the 'comments' page it wouldn't be right. --SVTCobra 05:51, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Broad international interest...this is a perfect first lead. DragonFire1024 05:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Doesn'tmatter...apparently discussions don'tmatter when someone changes it anyways. whatever. DragonFire1024 05:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well you can change it back. Remember be bold. That's just my opinion, and its not rooted in anything substansive, so I don't have a good basis for it. Anyways the short of it is, if you revert me, I won't revert you. So feel free to change it back if you feel its better that way. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:21, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Back to the old layout...
...seeing as we've gone back to this from Template:Lead article with large image (why is that, BTW? The large image looked a lot better), shouldn't somebody update the newsroom? --Saxsux 15:05, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * We still use it. The old layout is secondary. It's also because we don't want a huge picture of Osama bin Laden's head on the main lead :P  —FellowWiki Newsie 15:18, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:G7 announce debt relief plan

Someone want to post a picture with this article? One possibility might be the 7/8 member country flags arranged in a 3x3 table with "G8" or "G7" in the middle. - McCart42 16:46, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * good timing by someone - thanks for posting a picture. Still think it might be a good idea to have a quick "G7/G8" stock graphic lying around though - if I get a chance I'll make it.  - McCart42 16:51, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Yah, that was me... but we need a more legit graphic. That one is clearly watermarked as an AP photo, which I didn't realize until after I'd loaded it at commons... (got it from VOA). We need a clear G7/G8 set of stock photos on Commons (along with every other international organization we can think of.) - Amgine 16:54, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

"failing to agree"?
So did the G7 agree or not agree on a plan? All the refs point to the member nations agreeing on a plan - I've removed the "failing to" and will conclude copyedit. - McCart42 18:47, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi McCart42, It's a little controversial. They say that they are agreeing, but really all they've agreed on at this meeting was that they need to provide some sort of debt relief, which was something that everyone agreed on a long time ago. All the significant details of the debt relief are still under contention.

My impression is that the British are pushing a plan, and so they want to act like the other 6 countries are agreeing. However, the US is definitely balking. The Financial Times article does a good job of describing the disagreement.

I tried to make our article a little clearer, but it still isn't great. Pingswept 13:48, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Coup in Togo after President dies

After the death of President Gnassingbé Eyadéma, the army of the African state of Togo has suspended the constitution and installed the son of the late President, Faure Eyadéma, as the new leader.

The constitution stipulates that the parliament's speaker should take over power in the event of the death of the President. Eyadéma did not hold the office of Speaker of the Parliament at the time of his father's death.

The African Union has spoken of a "military coup" taking place in the country. The United Nations and the European Union have also made calls for the army to respect the rules of the state.

By the time Eyadéma's death was announced on public radio, the army had already sealed the border. It then installed Faure, previously the communications minister, as president. Army Chief of Staff Gen Zakari Nandja said the decision had been taken to "avoid a power vacuum."

The speaker of parliament, Fambare Natchaba Ouattara, who was returning to Togo from Paris, was reportedly not permitted entry due to the border closure. He is now exiled in neighbouring Benin.

Gnassingbé Eyadéma, 69, Africa's longest-standing ruler, died while being evacuated for medical treatment abroad. After seizing power 38 years ago, he dissolved all political parties. He legalized elections due to popular pressure in 1991, but won three elections. Accusations of electoral fraud and political repression continued. In 2002, he amended the constitution to lower the minimum age for the presidency from 45 years to 35 years.

The day after the president's death, Natchaba was dismissed by the parliament and unanimously replaced by Faure Eyadéma by the deputies who were present at that time. The parliament also eliminated a constitutional requirement that elections be held within 60 days of the president's death, clearing the way for Faure to rule until the end of his father's term in 2008.

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Twenty-seven die as bus falls into gorge in Kashmir

February 6, 2005 Twenty seven people are dead and 35 injured after the bus in which they were travelling left the road and fell into a gorge in Kashmir, India.

The bus fell into a deep gorge near Barmeen, 90 km from the winter capital of Kashmir, Jammu. Twenty seven people died at the scene and another 35 have been transferred to a nearby general hospital.

Police are investigating the cause of the accident.


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List of Communist spies leaks on the internet

A list of 240,000 names from a Soviet Union-era secret file has been leaked on the internet. The list contains the names of potential collaborators with the Communist government of Poland, and its victims. The list has overtaken "sex" as the hottest search item on the internet in Poland. Piotr Tchorzewski, an employee of Poland's biggest Internet portal Onet, said:"This thing is huge. We have recorded around 100,000 Internet searches a day for the list, which is 10 times the number looking for 'sex'."

Last week the Polish journalist Bronislaw Wildstein obtained the list from the National Remembrance Institute (IPN). The files accessed by Wildstein were protected and few people--primarily historians and journalists--had been authorised to see them.

Wildstein obtained the list legally, and he distributed it to his colleagues. Somehow, the list has been leaked on to the internet. Since then the list has been copied and widely distributed on websites and peer-to-peer networks.

On the Onet site the list is at the top of search items. Visitors are referred to 650,000 links related to it. On Google the search for "Wildstein list" returned 15,800 references on February 6, 2005.

The Prime Minister Marek Belka expressed concern for the safety of active intelligence agents whose names might be on the list.


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User:Constafrequent

Hello! I will personalise this user page in due course, but in the meantime you can go to my user page at the English Wikipedia to find out about me.

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User:SonicR~enwikinews

I mainly contribute to the german-language version of wikinews. At the english version I will do some minor edits.

My topics of interest are:
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For more information have a look at my german userpage.

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American Indian Movement protests against Professor Ward Churchill

The American Indian Movement protested against the controversial professor Ward Churchill, chairman of the Department of Ethnic Studies at the University of Colorado, who in a paper written after the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center in New York, compared the victims of the attack to "little Eichmanns".

The American Indian Movement says Churchill’s statements comparing victims to Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann who implemented Adolf Hitler’s plan to exterminate European Jews and others should be condemned by all. Also, they say Churchill fraudulently represents himself as an Indian and a member of the American Indian Movement.

Additionally, Ward Churchill has perpetrated art fraud and plagerism. He was banned from selling his artwork in 1990. http://wardchurchill.blogspot.com/2005/02/chief-wannabe-is-art-fraud-indian.html http://michellemalkin.com/archives/001596.htm


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New London police commissioner blames middle-class cocaine users for violence in Colombia and on British housing estates

The new London police commissioner Sir Ian Blair has warned middle class dinner party users of cocaine that he is out to get them. In contrast, he is relaxed about cannabis smokers, saying he does not wish to waste police time pursuing them. He has been quoted as saying: "People seem to think the price of a wrap of cocaine is 50 quid [UK pounds], but the cost is misery on estates here and a trail of blood back to Colombia. Someone has died to bring it [cocaine] to a dinner party. People who wouldn’t dream of having a non-organic vegetable don’t seem to notice the blood on their fingers."

Blair is clearly trying to prick the conscience of the 624,000 estimated cocaine users in the UK, hoping to persuade them to boycott this Class A drug. Others, including Colombian Nobel Prize winner and author Gabriel García Márquez, have stated that the misery both in Colombia and on poor housing estates in the UK is caused not by drugs themselves but by the banning of them. Marquez has specifically said that he cannot see the end of the civil war in Colombia as long as the illegal drug trade exists, and he cannot see the end of the illegal drug trade unless drugs are legalized. The trade in cannabis also generates violence both at home (in the UK) and abroad, in spite of Sir Ian's softly, softly approach to this recently reclassified Class C drug.


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Astronomer proposes Hubble replacement

January 6, 2005 Colin A. Norman, Professor of Physics and Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University, testifying before the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Science February 2nd, presented the Hubble Origins Probe (HOP) as a replacement for the Hubble Space Telescope.

Concerning the shuttle's estimated one billion dollar cost and 65 month time-frame for deployment to earth orbit, Norman said: "The groundbreaking science, the cutting edge technology generated in the development of new instrumentation, the ability of Hubble science to engage the interest of the public, and its impact on the imagination of students, make it worthwhile to invest this sum of public funds to complete the last chapter of Hubble's remarkable legacy."

HOP will tackle three of the most central intellectual issues of our age; the nature of dark energy, the nature and distribution of dark matter, and the prevalence of planets, including earths, around other stars.

Norman noted during the testimony that HOP would be, essentially, a lighter copy of the Hubble Space Telescope and would include two instruments that were scheduled for installation on the Hubble: the Cosmic Origins Spectrograph (COS), the Wide Field Camera 3 (WFC3), plus the new Very Wide Field Imager (VWFI) to be paid for and provided by Japan.

The VWFI has a field of view 17 times greater the advanced camera on board the Hubble now, and is 3-4 times more sensitive at critical wavelengths. This will provide for mapping 20 times faster than achievable by the Hubble at present.

The COS would make possible the identification of the invisible portion of "ordinary matter," potentially residing in gigantic gas clouds discovered by the Chandra X-ray Telescope.

"The WFC3 has greatly enhanced power for discovery in the blue and the red region of the spectrum and will significantly enhance studies of galaxies and stars. Its infrared capability is essential to studies of dark energy," Norman added.

"The decision is obvious. We must continue with the Hubble adventure to explore these great questions further, to understand more fully our remarkable Universe and our place in it. We must do this with intense determination and energy and thus continue to inspire new generations with the wonder and thrill of exploration and discovery," concluded Norman.

Colin Norman was educated at the University of Melbourne and Oxford University. He has been a professor of physics and astronomy at Johns Hopkins University and astronomer at the Space Telescope Science Institute since 1984.

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Talk:Java creator criticizes .Net

Why is this article here on Ongoing disputes? -- Carlosar

I moved the article:"Java creator.." from Ongoing disputes to Copyedit needed. Nobody told why the article was at Ongoing disput. So I assumed the article was there by mistake. You please excuse me if I am wrong.-- Carlosar 02:27, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I changed "Java creator sees possible security flaws in .Net" to "Java creator criticizes .Net". I think it is more NPOV. -- Carlosar 03:20, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Do you see some problem in the article? Describe it please. Maybe it can be solved.--Carlosar

Do the article can be published?--Carlosar

 * I see only some copyediting issues. I'm in the midst of an article, or I'd start cleaning it up. Go ahead and publish it; soon enough people will put eyes on it and clean it up. - Amgine 03:30, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

People in #wikinews (albo and some other(s)) said the information is not new. Sorry I didn't check to see if they explained here, assumed someone had. I'm not sure what the current status is. Your headline is better, since it makes the fact of the statement the issue, not so much its content. Simeon 10:44, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:New London police commissioner blames middle-class cocaine users for violence in Colombia and on British housing estates

If you want to remove vast sections from the police commissioner or any other article explain yourself on the talk page. I have reverted what you did, and await your comments about the original removal. In my opinion I gave the article a neutral point of view, which you then took away. I was not speculating, I was giving what many people think about Blair's statements, both in and outside the UK. Nor was the final paragraph copied from anywhere. Just because the original TIMES article was not from a neutral point of view does not lessen the duty of wikinews to attempt to be so.Squeakfox 23:46, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * You mis-understand NPOV. Just report what happened. If you want to play guessing games or pass comments on people or how they might be feeling, get a blog and do it there. Otherwise don't try and guess and motives, opinions etc as you could be wildly wrong.

 * If someone is actually on record as saying something, then by all report that, just reference it too. Dan100 (Talk) 10:54, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Let me deconstruct your paragraph to show you what I mean:

While Blair is clearly trying to prick the conscience of cocaine users, hoping to persuade them to boycott the product

Actually this idea came from The Guardian --Squeakfox 15:42, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Do you have a source where Blair states that is his objective? Or are you just guessing?

there is another argument, made by those who propose the legalisation of drugs, that in fact the misery both in Colombia and on poor housing estates in the UK is caused not by cocaine itself but by the banning of the substance

 * Do you have a source document where pro-legalisation groups state this?

This, and this BBC article are 2 examples, the second commenting on how legalising drugs would lessen housing estate misery in UK and added as external link. Legalising drugs to elimimate the drug trade is a mainstream viewpoint, both in the UK and Latin Amewrica/Colombia. Squeakfox 15:42, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Sir Ian has also left himself open to charges of hypocrisy given that as an illegal product the trade in cannabis also generates violence both at home and abroad.

 * Who says he has? Has someone of importance (eg a politician, a campaigner) actually stated that he is being hypocritical?

I will drop the hypocrisy and merely point out that the cannabis trade also generates violence, a well documented fact. See and  --Squeakfox 15:42, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I hope that illustrates what I'm trying to get at. Dan100 (Talk) 10:59, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Have rewritten final paragraph. --Squeakfox 16:06, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

NPOV
NPOV is about giving a balanced point of view, something the Times article did not do, it only gave Ian Blair's point of view. We shouild never assume that commercial press, whose first priority is advertising revenue, is unbiased. The Times has a right wing reputation. So I did not just report what this one article said, I gave it breadth and attempted to give it a neutral point of view to Blair's one sided statement that users are responsible for the misery of drugs. I would not expect the police commissioner to put forward the argument that the law or the police are responsible for the problems created by drugs, but feel that we at Wiki need to give more than just one point of view. That the misery is caused by the illegality of drugs is another point of view expressed by many. I have attempted to rectify my bad sourcies. If you do not like my rewrite I would ask you to edit it not delete it. I am not happy with the article without a final paragraph. Squeakfox 17:13, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Portal talk:Australian Weather

Prehaps the name should be changed to Australasia to reflect the fact that it is more than just Australia. --GregStephens 00:37, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Would you consider getting Andrewbot tagged as a bot so it doesn't spam RC? --Chiacomo (talk) 01:53, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the response... Have you requested bot status on meta for Andrewbot? --Chiacomo (talk) 01:56, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks again, for the response... Would you consider suspending Andrewbot (though he appears to be very useful) until he's tagged as +bot -- it really is spamming RC. --Chiacomo (talk) 02:05, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Also please warn us before you run the bot. IRC would be best, but Water Cooler or Admin notice board would be ok also --Cspurrier 02:09, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

I for one would love to see this bot back in action, as double redirects are nightmares for RSS users, and it's usually me who ends up cleaning up the mess as I want to maintain a decent level of service for our 3,000 odd RSS subscribers.

Getting it flagged would be great but it's not vital - double redirects have to be fixed, so they're going to end up in RC either way. Dan100 (Talk) 15:32, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

 * Andrew, a few questions about the bot - does it run all the time? How long does it take to detect and fix double redirects? Dan100 (Talk) 07:54, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Is there is any chance you could run it continously? There's a big proplem with people frequently moving pages, but not updating old redirects. Your bot could be a great help if it could clean these up as they're made! Dan100 (Talk) 11:37, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

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I'm sure your reason for removing the cancer reference was not because cell phones may or may not cause cancer, but because it implied that gmail might cause cancer. :) --Crockett 01:38, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

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Thaksin Shinawatra leads party to stunning victory in Thailand

Prime Minister of Thailand, Thaksin Shinawatra, appears likely to be returned to office, making history as the first elected Thai PM to win a second term. If exit poll indications are borne out, his Thai Rak Thai (Thais Love Thais) party will win in a landslide, to become the first single party majority in Thailand's relatively short history of parliamentary democracy.

The Thai Rak Thai (TRT) Party looks set to secure approximately 375 seats in the election, allowing them to form the first single-party elected government in Thailand's history. The main opposition party, Pak Prachatipat (Democratic Party), had hoped to secure 201 seats to prevent a TRT majority but conceded defeat long before the ballots were completely counted. The leader of the Democrats, Banyat Bantadtan, has announced he will resign.

"I would like to congratulate Thai Rak Thai for achieving its goal of being a single-party government," Banyat Bantadtan, leader of the Pak Prachatipat is quoted by the Independent as saying. "I would like to encourage the two other opposition parties to join the Democrat party in monitoring the government for the benefit of the people."

TRT has promised to eradicate poverty, by spending $60 billion on new infrastructure and pushing ahead with privatisation of state firms against fierce opposition from unions. Cheap loans and subsidised healthcare for Thailand’s poor rural areas sweetened the deal.

History and issues
Already making history as the first elected PM to serve a full term, Thaksin is widely viewed as turning the recent Tsunami disaster into a political asset. When five- to eight-thousand Thais and foreign tourists were killed in the disaster, Mr. Thaksin responded by touring affected regions, refusing international aid loans, and promising farmers, fishermen, and the tourism industry support and compensation.

Thailand's economic growth rate during the past term in office had broken 6 per cent, second only to China, and rural income soared by 20 per cent.

Another big issue during the previous term was conflict between security forces and Muslim insurgents in the three southernmost provinces of Narathiwat, Pattani and Yala. With around 10-30,000 troops on duty guarding polling stations, no overt violence arose during the vote, although there had been around 600 deaths in the past 13 months.

Thaksin himself has been dogged by conflict-of-interest and nepotism allegations, including in 2001 charges of concealing financial assets, which could have put him out of politics for five years. A controversial 2003 campaign against drug users was widely seen as amounting to simple assassination of drug dealers, with several hundreds or thousands of alleged extra-judicial killings condemned by the United Nations.

After first entering Thai politics in 1994 as head of the anti-corruption Palang Dharma Party, the multi-billionaire head of telecom giant Shin Corporation had set about building TRT for the 2001 election. Forming a coalition from previous parties and factions, Thaksin was seated as PM with 248 seats of 438 to TRT.

"Free, but not fair"
Election officials said there were 146 allegations of fraud which merited investigation, with opposition and independent observers saying that vote buying had started weeks ago. However, more than 70 percent of the 44.8 million eligible voters cast ballots in the country's population of 62 million.

"The election may be free, but I don't think fair," said Somsri Hananuntasuk of the Asian Network for Free Elections, citing reports that party workers were paying Bangkok slum dwellers 200 baht ($5.21) each for votes.

Officials were reportedly planning to confiscate mobile phones at polling booths and to arrest voters who snapped a picture of their completed ballot papers with a camera phone as proof to claim a payment, though whether any such incidents occurred is unknown.

Two Election Commission volunteers were killed in the south by gunmen during campaigning last month, but, according to General Kowit Wattana, Thailand’s police chief, “Ambushes and killings of candidates are down from four years ago.”


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Shi'a leaders call for religious state

February 7, 2005

Iraq – With a strong lead in a pre-weekend partial report, Shi'a leaders have begun making known their interests in a Shiite Prime Minister. Others have spoken of the negotiations for the constitution. Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Ishaq al-Fayad is quoted saying the separation of religion and state must be "completely rejected."

"All of the Ulema (clergy) and Marja, and the majority of the Iraqi people, want the National Assembly to make Islam the source of legislation in the permanent constitution and to reject any law that is contrary to Islam," he said in his statement.

Vice President Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld spent the weekend on television shows and interviews assuring the U.S. public the Iraqi elections would not result in a theocracy for the country.

"We have a great deal of confidence in where they're headed," Mr. Cheney said on Fox News Sunday. "I don't think, at this stage, that there's anything like justification for hand-wringing or concern on the part of Americans that somehow they're going to produce a result we won't like."

The violence of the insurgency, however, has returned after a brief lull following the elections whose final returns are expected in the coming week.

 * 14 insurgents, 22 Iraqi police officers and soldiers were killed in an attack on a police station south of Baghdad.
 * Four Egyptian telecom engineers were abducted.
 * One U.S. soldier was killed and two injured by a roadside bomb north of Baghdad.
 * One U.S. marine was killed south of Baghdad on Saturday.
 * In a rocket attack, 2 missiles exploded near the Baghdad Airport, while a third struck an Iraqi National Guard building; no casualties were reported.
 * On Friday, an Italian jounalist was abducted near Baghdad University.

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Chinese New Year to be celebrated in Bucharest for the first time

The Lunar New Year's Eve Festival will be celebrated in Bucharest, Romania for the first time ever as an organised event. The celebrations will include live shows, food exhibitions and fireworks, and will take place on February 10 in Nichita Stănescu Park. Designed to promote Chinese cultural heritage, the event will be organised by Bucharest City Hall, as well as the Romania-China Cultural Centre and the Chinese Embassy in Bucharest.

Signifying the end of the winter and the start of spring, the Chinese New Year takes place on a different day at the beginning of the year, based on the moon's position relative to the sun. The celebrations will mark the beginning of the Year of the Rooster.


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Sibiu International Airport to be modernised

The international airport of Sibiu, Romania, will be modernised through 2007, when the city will become Europe's Capital of Culture. Representatives from the Sibiu County Council, Sibiu City Hall and the Sibiu prefecture asked the Romanian government to allocate funds for the modernisation of the airport. The city wants to update the airport infrastructure because the city will receive a tourism and visitor boom when it becomes the European Capital of Culture in 2007.

Martin Bottesch, the president of Sibiu County Council, claims that five times more passengers will use the airport in 2007 than in 2004, when it received 45,000 passengers. The Sibiu International Airport currently has flights from Sibiu to Bucharest, the Romanian capital, as well as to Munich and Stuttgart in Germany and Bergamo, Treviso, Verona, Bologna and Rome in Italy. Despite the air connections, train remains the most popular way of reaching the city, though it is believed that the modernisation of the airport will change this.

Sibiu, which is located in central Romania, in the province of Transylvania, is one of Romania's best-maintained and most-visited medieval cities. It is also one of Romania's most important cultural centres, home to the Brukenthal Museum, which is one of the most renowned in central Europe. The city of 170,000 is also home to Romania's largest German population. While today it only makes up 1.6% of the city's population, Sibiu maintains an important German heritage in terms of culture.


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title: User:Simeon.A.Scott/livepreview.js


text:
Michael Jackson pre-trial starts

February 8, 2005

The pre-trial hearings in the trial of the pop singer Michael Jackson have begun the process of jury selection. An initial jury selection of 4,000 people has been narrowed down to 250 by Judge Rodney Melville and the prosecution and defence attorneys.

The process of selecting the final 12 jurors and eight stand-by-jurors will continue on February 14th, following the death in the family of Jackson's lead defence lawyer.

Jackson, 46, is accused of child molestation in a case which is expected to last up to six months.

title: Michael Jackson pre-trial starts