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User:Chiacomo

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Please, feel free to edit my user page! I'm not very creative. Oh, be nice... My Wikinews-birthday is June 11 -- I began my career at Wikinews adding an "a"...

I was made an administrator on July 22, 2005 -- please feel free to leave a message on my talk page if I can assist you in some way!

I was made an arbitrator on January 31, 2006. Please read about the Wikinews Arbitration Committee for more information about the final step in dispute resolution.

I was named a bureaucrat on June 23, 2006. I'll be more than happy to assist you with rename requests, bot flags and the like. Please leave me a message.

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You have my permission to correct my spelling in any edit I make anywhere on Wikinews!

My email address is [mailto:chiacomo@gmail.com chiacomo@gmail.com]. If I can help you, I will!

I'm concerned with NPOV issues, policy, and good journalism.

You'll find me sourcing articles, copyediting, and generally hanging around.

I work, full time, as a telecommunications system manager for a regional company located in Tennessee. Previously, I have worked for the non-profit Oprheum Theatre in Memphis, Tennessee, the non-profit Center for Southern Folklore, and one of the Gannett newspapers as well as Time Warner Communications. I've been very lucky in finding work and it's given me a broad education and perspective.

Following are links showing my use of "admin controls":
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Something slightly useful
everyone else has one, so I thought I needed one

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User talk:4.16.138.1

Why did you make the edits you made? NGerda 05:19, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

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User:Hayabusa future

See my user page on English Wikipedia.

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Wikinews:2005/June/12

 * Iraqi police discover 20 bodies
 * Pink Floyd will reunite to play London's Live 8
 * Fossett set to recreate first non-stop trans-Atlantic flight
 * Mike Tyson set to retire after loss
 * Crown Prince of Kuwait admitted to hospital
 * Lula's future in the hands of Brazilian Parliament
 * Bomb blasts kill several in Iran — Updated Report
 * China school flood claims 91 lives
 * Chechnya train derailed by blast, 12 injured
 * French journalist held hostage in Iraq freed
 * Twenty-five children injured in bus-truck collision in Florida
 * More political, soccer-related unrest in Iran follows Bahrain victory
 * Italians vote on fertility referendum

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French journalist held hostage in Iraq freed

June 12, 2005

The French foreign affairs department has announced that the French journalist Florence Aubenas (working on behalf of Libération) and her guide Hussein Hanoun Al-Saadi have been freed this morning.

They had been held hostage in Iraq since January 5, 2005 — a total of 158 days.

French president Jacques Chirac said in a televised speech that the freed French reporter and her Iraqi driver are in "good health" and said that Aubenas is on a plane heading for France.


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User talk:Hayabusa future

Thank you for your fantastic work fighting the vandal this morning - I can't tell you how much it's appreciated. Dan100 (Talk) 09:41, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:67.189.72.211

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Chechnya train derailed by blast, 12 injured

June 12, 2005

A Russian has been derailed by an explosion on Sunday, the FSB has said in a statement. A FSB spokesman said 12 people have been injured, when two carriages of a train heading from the Chechen capital derailed 90 miles south of Moscow.

Officials have reported that two people have been rushed to hospital, while others who sustained lighter injuries were offered medical assistance at the crash site and delivered to Moscow by commuter train. The spokesman did not say who might be responsible for the attack on the train, which at the time was carrying more than 300 passengers.

Only an hour prior to the incident, a train carrying elementary school pupils from, on their way to Croatia passed on the same track. 56 children were heading to a Moscow airport, from where they flew to. In September last year, 172 children died in the.


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China school flood claims 91 lives

June 12, 2005

At least 91 people have now been confirmed dead in Friday's disaster, in which a wall of water and debris smashed into the school near Ning'an, in the northern Heilongjiang province. Hundreds of children and more than 30 teachers of the school, were inside at the time.

Of the dead, reports from the Xinhua news agency say that 87 were students and four were adults. The reports also indicate that two dozen people are still in a criticial condition in hospital.

The flooding itself, triggered by heavy rain caused damage in several cities near Ning'an city, knocking down up to 55 houses.

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Bomb blasts kill several in Iran

June 12, 2005

Four separate bombs have exploded in the south-western Iranian city of Ahwaz, killing more than five people and wounding up to 87 others. The presidential election is due in five days time.

Later, an additional bomb was detonated in Teheran, killing three and wounding several others.

Earlier news reports reported a lower number, but reports from two major international agencies are now reporting much higher injury numbers. Bombings in Iran have been extremely rare, since the war with Iraq ended in 1988.

One bomb exploded outside the governor general's office. Three more bombs exploded near government buildings in a period of two hours. Some reports put the official death toll at eight, and official reports confirm that up to 30 were injured; but final numbers are not yet known.

"We cannot say for now who committed these attacks, but the intelligence ministry is investigating," The deputy governor of Khuzestan said in a statement to state television. He went on to say that "The attacks are a failure, because in the past the regime has been confronted by far worse."

The Ahwaz attacks have been claimed by a previously unknown group known as the "Ahwazi Revolutionary Martyrs' Brigades," while a group protesting the bombings outside the Khuzestan governor's residence chanted "Death to the hypocrites" - a slogan applied to the Mojahedin-e-Khalq (MeK) organization.

Ali Agha Mohammadi, head press secretary for the security services at first refused to implicate the MeK in the attacks, but later asserted that the bombs “may have been the work of people who belong to the [Mojahedin] ." The MeK, which has admitted responsibility for previous attacks, have disclaimed any part in the latest string of bombings.

The MeK is currently listed as a Foreign Terrorist Organisation by the U.S. State Department and has received similar designations from other governments and the European Union. However, according to two prominent security analysts, the bombings seen this weekend are not their style. “These don’t have the MeK’s fingerprints on them,” according to Mustafa Akmal. “The MeK has not engaged in any violent action for the past four years,” he said, adding “Even before ceasing its armed activities in Iran, it had a policy of claiming responsibility for all its operations.”

Akmal's colleague, Walter Murray of the Gulf Intelligence Monitor agreed, saying it would be foolish for the group to alienate potential supporters in the West and endanger the fruits of years of lobbying western governments with such attacks. Murray felt the bombers were more likely "...loose cannons..." in Iran's military or intelligence services.

According to Iranian top national security official Ali Agha Mohammadi, "the terrorists of Ahvaz infiltrated Iran from the region of Basra" in southern Iraq." He added that "these terrorists have been trained under the umbrella of the Americans in Iraq."

These attacks seem to represent a new capability of anti-Tehran forces to strike inside of Iran that did not exist before the US invasion and occupation of Iraq.

There has been no official US denunciation of the attacks.

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 * Tehran blast scene photos from Fars News Agency
 * Tehran blast scene photos from Iranian Students News Agency
 * Ahwaz blast photos from Fars News Agency
 * Ahwaz blast photos from Iranian Students News Agency

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Talk:US millitary says it killed approximately 40 'insurgents' in Iraq

The Reuters report seems somewhat self contradictory in these 2 paragraphs;

Seven precision-guided U.S. air strikes on the outskirts of the town of Karabilah killed the insurgents who were stopping vehicles at gunpoint and threatening Iraqi civilians, said a U.S. military statement.

The military said there were no U.S. casualties when Marines engaged large groups of insurgents armed with rocket-propelled grenades, machine guns and AK-47 assault rifles.

I can't figure out who did the killing..the precision guided bombs or the marines or both? I am even wondering if there are 2 separate incidents being reported here? Also, the Reuters photo shows a blown up car; maybe it was part of the roadblock? or just waiting at the roadblock? I can't tell.

Truth is always the first victim in war; so it is always POV to report an uncorroborated claim by 1 side as fact; imo. Paulrevere2005 14:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"insurgents"?
What's up with having the word insurgents in quotes? Does not everyone agree with the use of this word? --Berkut 01:27, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * No source has confirmed that they were all insurgents. NGerda 01:49, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

Spelling
"Military" in the title is misspelled. Please fix (page is protected right now). Andrew pmk 02:52, 10 September 2005 (UTC)


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User talk:65.34.186.143

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User talk:68.80.134.151

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User talk:70.110.207.26

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Missouri Circuit Court Judge Werner Moentmann rules that Planned Parenthood must repay money.

June 9, 2005 On Thursday, Missouri Judge Werner Moentmann ruled that  of  and Planned Parenthood of Mid-Missouri must repay the state of Missouri $668,850 for grants they received illegally for fiscal years 2000 and 2003. The Judge said that the Planned Parenthood groups shared "office space, expenses, employee wages, equipment and supplies" with doctors who performed abortions and therefore was ineligible for the grant money.

This is the third time the case has come before a circuit judge — twice previously circuit court judges ruled that Planned Parenthood was not eligible for grant funding from Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services.

The Missouri Supreme Court overturned two previous rulings without addressing the merits of the case itself. The first ruling urged the lower court to reconsider the decision based on changes in federal law; the second ruling was overturned when the court found that Attorney General Jay Nixon had a conflict of interest in representing both the state legislature and the health department.


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Mike Tyson set to retire after loss

June 12, 2005

Mike Tyson's boxing career appears to be over after the infamous fighter became fatigued against his journeyman opponent Saturday. Tyson later told the media he was quitting the sport to become a missionary.

Despite being heavily favored, the 38-year old Tyson became desperate in the sixth round and resorted to his trademark bizarre tactics against Irishman Kevin McBride (33-4-1). When an attempt to break his opponent's arm failed to end the fight, Tyson landed a head-butt that opened a cut near McBride's left eye. Still desperate and low on stamina, Tyson proceeded to hit below the belt before sagging to the canvas in the closing seconds of the round. When Tyson refused to answer the bell for the seventh, veteran referee Joe Cortez "looked stunned," according to the Boston Globe's Ron Borges. Tyson led on two cards and trailed on a third when the fight was called, but he was clearly out of gas and momentum was not with him.

"I do not have the stomach for this," Tyson told Showtime interviewer Jim Gray after leaving the ring. "I don't have the guts to be in this sport anymore. My heart is not into this anymore." He also apologized to the 15,472 paid attendance at the MCI Center "whom had roared his name when he entered the ring less than an hour earlier," according to Borges.

The $5 million payday will erase only a fraction of an enormous debt that caused Tyson to declare bankruptcy in 2003. One report says he owes more than $40 million.

The disgraced former champion also told reporters he is "going to look into my missionary work," according to Reuters. "There is some Christian missionary work that was interested in letting me come to Bosnia, go to Rwanda, go to different countries to help with aid and food for people that are in dire need."

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Wikinews:Briefs/June 12, 2005

Audio Wikinews Brief transcript – 2005 06 12 – 1930 UTC
As reported by Nathan Reed

June 12, 2005. This is Wikinews News Brief for 1930 UTC.

Breaking News
G8 finance ministers agree on deal to relieve debts of 18 poorest nations The finance ministers of the G8, the world's eight richest countries, have agreed to a deal to relieve the debts of 18 of the poorest countries in the world. The International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, and the African Development Fund will write off all of the money owed to them by the selected countries. The countries are Benin, Bolivia, Burkina Faso, Ethiopia, Ghana, Guyana, Honduras, Madagascar, Mali, Mauritania, Mozambique, Nicaragua, Niger, Rwanda, Senegal, Tanzania, Uganda, and Zambia.

Headlines
Lula's future in the hands of Brazilian Parliament The government of Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva is in a severe political crisis. The crisis began after the exposure of a series of scandals which involve the Workers' Party, the Brazilian ruling party. According to members of the Brazilian Court, President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva may be subjected to an impeachment process, if there is some proof that he is really envolved in the alleged scandals or if it can proven that he was acting with negligence.

Report finds FBI missed multiple chances to stop 9/11 The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) missed several opportunities to uncover and to possibly stop the September 11 terrorist attacks against the United States, a report has found. The agency did not respond to leads and failed to follow up a theory that al-Qaeda was sending its members to US-based flight schools, it said. The report by the United States Department of Justice's Inspector General said that mistakes amounted to a "significant failure".

Mike Tyson set to retire after loss Mike Tyson's boxing career appears to be over after the infamous fighter became fatigued against his journeyman opponent Saturday. Tyson later told the media he was quitting the sport to become a missionary. The former champ told reporters he is "going to look into [his] missionary work," according to Reuters. "There is some Christian missionary work that was interested in letting me come to Bosnia, go to Rwanda, go to different countries to help with aid and food for people that are in dire need."

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Fossett set to recreate first non-stop trans-Atlantic flight

June 12, 2005

American millionaire and adventurer Steve Fossett and his co-pilot Mark Rebholz are planning to recreate John Alcock and Arthur Whitten Brown's historic first non-stop transatlantic flight of 1919.

Following the original route, the pair hope to leave Lester's Field in Newfoundland, Canada next weekend and fly to Clifden on the west coast of Ireland. They intend to land at the Ballyconneely golf links near the Irish town. However, the date of departure, 19 June, is very much weather dependent because the pilots will be relying solely on the sun and stars for direction — no instruments are being used for navigation.

The trip, which will be completely in a replica Vickers Vimy, will take approximately 20 hours to complete. The Vickers Vimy was originally designed as a World War One bomber. This particular plane has already been used to recreate significant journeys; having flown from Britain to Australia in 1994, and from England to South Africa in 1999.

Steve Fossett
Mr. Fossett is a multimillionaire who earned his fortune in the American financial markets. He holds 15 world record passages in sailing — including the record for fastest circumnavigation of the world. He was the first person ever to fly a solo, non-stop, aerial circumnavigation of the globe in a jet aircraft. He has also swum the English Channel and driven the 24 hours of Le Mans.

The adventurer also holds the interesting distinction of holding more world records than anyone else — currently 62 world records.


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Pink Floyd will reunite to play London's Live 8

June 12, 2005 Organizers of the upcoming London Live 8 concert have announced that legendary rock band Pink Floyd plans to perform on July 2. Guitarist David Gilmour, bassist Roger Waters, drummer Nick Mason, and keyboardist Richard Wright will play their first performance together since playing at Earls Court, London in 1981.

The band will come together, along with other musical acts such as Coldplay, Elton John, and Paul McCartney for this event. Live 8 is a series of free concerts at each of the G8 nations organized by Bob Geldof. These concerts, set on the 20th anniversary of Geldof's Live Aid, have been planned to support the Make Poverty History campaign, which aims to reduce African poverty.

This lineup of Pink Floyd has not played together for 24 years due to a conflict between David Gilmour and Roger Waters over leadership and creative influence of the band. However, it seems that they are willing to put their differences behind to support Live 8; "Like most people I want to do everything I can to persuade the G8 leaders to make huge commitments to the relief of poverty and increased aid to the third world," said David Gilmour and added, "Any squabbles Roger and the band have had in the past are so petty in this context, and if reforming for this concert will help focus attention then it's got to be worthwhile."


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Iraqi police discover 20 bodies

June 12, 2005

Decomposing bodies of twenty men have been found in a shallow grave in Nahrawan near Baghdad, Iraqi police officials report.

The men, who were aged between 20 and 50 were thought to have died quite some time ago. Police have not yet been able to identify the bodies, because of their physical state. Reports indicate that no identification was found at the scene.

Correspondents for the UK news agency, the BBC, say that there is an increasing number of unexplained murders in and around Baghdad, with bodies frequently dumped on the side of the road.

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Wisconsin Democratic Party calls for Impeachment of Bush, Cheney, & Rumsfeld

June 12, 2005

In, Wisconsin, the Democratic Party of Wisconsin adopted the following resolution at their state convention:

 * CALLING ON THE TO INITIATE IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS AGAINST PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT  AND DEFENSE SECRETARY  FOR HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS

 * ''WHEREAS, the shows that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld began planning and executing the war on  before seeking Congressional and  approval;

 * ''WHEREAS, UN weapons inspectors showed prior to the invasion that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq; and

 * ''WHEREAS, there is further mounting evidence that the Administration lied or misled about "mushroom clouds," "connections to ," and "war as a last resort" as they sought UN, Congressional, and public approvals;

 * ''THEREFORE, RESOLVED, the DPW asks Congress to immediately begin impeachment proceedings against President Bush, Vice President Cheney and Defense Secretary Rumsfeld.

The resolution alleges that the Bush administration "lied or misled" Congress and the American people concerning the justification for the war. The "Downing Street memo" and reports from U.N. weapons inspectors are mentioned as evidence of deception.

Newly elected state party Chairman said, "Democrats, not only in Wisconsin but throughout the U.S., have been outraged by what we believe has been a clear cover-up of why the U.S. went into Iraq," and that the resolution expresses "the sense of frustration that Democrats in Wisconsin have over fighting a war for the wrong reasons."

Charles Franklin, a professor, does not think the resolution will be successful and said that even if the  began impeachment proceedings against the president and vice president, "I don't think you can impeach the secretary of defense".

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 * http://www.gp.org/press/pr_2005_06_09.html


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You would think that if the coalition authorities really cared, they would at least dig out the bullets to see what type of weapons killed these men. Paulrevere2005 00:24, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Wikinews:Briefs/June 13, 2005

Audio Wikinews transcript – 2005 06 13 – 0500 UTC
As reported by Nathan Reed

This is your WikiNews Brief for June 13, 2005 at 0500 UTC

Breaking News
There are currently no breaking news stories.

Headlines
Iraqi police discover 20 bodies Iraqi police officals report that the decomposing bodies of twenty men have been found in a shallow grave in Nahrawan near Baghdad.

The men, who were aged between 20 and 50 were thought to have died quite some time ago. Police have not yet been able to identify the bodies, because of their actual physical state. And reports indicate that their was no identification found at the scene.

Correspondents for the UK news agency, the BBC, say that their is an increasing number of unexplained murders in and also around Baghdad, with bodies frequently dumped on the side of the road.

Pink Floyd will reunite to play London's Live 8 Organizers of the upcoming London Live 8 concert have announced that legendary rock band Pink Floyd plans to perform on July 2. Guitarist David Gilmour, bassist Roger Waters, drummer Nick Mason, and keyboardist Richard Wright will play their first performance together since playing at Earls Court, London in 1981.

The band will come together, along with other musical acts such as Coldplay, Elton John, and Paul McCartney for this event. Live 8 is a series of free concerts at each of the G8 nations organized by Bob Geldof. These concerts, set on the 20th anniversary of Geldof's Live Aid, have been planned to support the Make Poverty Happy campaign, which aims to reduce African poverty.

Fossett set to recreate first non-stop transatlantic flight American millionaire and adventurer Steve Fossett and his co-pilot Mark Rebholz are planning to recreate John Alcock and Arthur Whitten Brown's historic first non-stop transatlantic flight of 1919.

Following the original route, the pair hope to leave Lester's Field in Newfoundland, Canada next weekend and fly to Clifden on the west coast of Ireland. They intend to land at the Ballyconneely golf links near the Irish town. However, the date of departure, 19th June, is very much weather dependent because the pilots will be relying solely on the sun and stars for direction — no instruments are being used for navigation.

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The bit at the end seems to take too long. Anyway we can cut it down a little? Also should we be advertising WWW.wikinews.org or EN.wikinews.org? I can see arguments for both, but i think i lean toward en. ~The bellman | Smile 07:52, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)


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Final withdrawal of Australian troops from East Timor

June 13, 2005

The Australian defence force handed the deeds to an ADF (Australian Defence Force) base in East Timor back to the country's government today, representing the end of armed peacekeeping in the country. The ADF says almost all their personnel will be out of the country within a fortnight. A small number will remain as part of a defence cooperation program between the two nations.

The East Timorese Prime Minister and other dignitaries were present for the handing over of the deeds. Troops from the armed forces of both Australia and East Timor paraded together while the Australian flag was lowered.

The Molena base, near the border with West Timor, has been operated by the ADF for the past three years. The site will now become a school.

A senior lecturer in international relations and strategy from the Australian National University, Doctor Michael McKinley, said "Although there's going to be a defence presence left in the country ... the peacekeeping presence could perhaps have been extended, particularly if there are any reservations whatsoever in the East Timorese Government about their ongoing security concerns. My understanding is that there are certainly some concerns still remaining."

"For the sort of psychological security of the East Timorese and perhaps even as a general message to the residue of trouble making, I thought perhaps Australia might have stayed somewhat longer," he said.

Lieutenant Colonel Brian Cox, commander of the ADF in East Timor, says he believes the country is being left in safe hands.

"We came in here in a period of turmoil in 1999 with INTERFET and General (Peter) Cosgrove leading the 5,000 Australians then, and we're now leaving with economic prosperity now in place," he said.


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 * Michael Jackson found 'not guilty' on all counts
 * Serial child imposter held by French police
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Talk:Wisconsin Democratic Party calls for Impeachment of Bush, Cheney, & Rumsfeld

Living in Wisconsin and i've heard nothing of this. In fact the message from this has been "wisconsin democrats need to reach out to 'average joes' ". You would think that if this was some official stance it would show up somewhere on http://www.wisdems.org/ So what you have is an article on the front page, that despite a complete lack of details manages to get its message across: "wisconsin dems hate bush(itler)" where as the message from the local media has been benign. This article has no scope but still gets air time, just cause the authour wants to stick it to bush. Whats sad, is that if true, this would be a terrible mistake for local dems politically. --wikiblog

 * It may well be that this story is indeed being buried by the Democrat Party hierarchy themselves; which raises more alarms about the actual level of democracy within the 2 main parties. Ironically, Wikiblog has the same opinion;"if true, this would be a terrible mistake for local dems politically"as the professor who was quoted in the main source"that it makes (Democratic)party look a little ridiculous".If this resolution was passed by the grassroots Democrats at the convention; then it deserves to be treated as a legitimate news item; regardless of which party it hurts. Apparantly the Nevada State Democrats have passed a similar resolution; also which has received no media attention. I am wondering if we are in a situation where the only political news that gets published is that which helps or hurts 1 of the 2 parties???This story may hurt both and is therefore going under the radar,perhaps. We will soon know if its true or not; and if it is, what will that say about who our mainstream "news" media are really working for??(hint; not the public...but the parties) Paulrevere2005 22:33, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * The Green Party of Canada has started using a wiki (wiki research link) for developing its platform (the plan published before an election, which, in principle, all voters read in deciding which party to vote for, modulo their trust that the party will really do what's in the platform) http://www.online-deliberation.net/conf2005/viewabstract.php?id=34
 * IMHO, now that we know that wikis exist and that thousands of people talking dozens of languages can more or less come to reasonable consensus on them and produce meaningful texts which are more or less accurately related to past reality (wikipedia) and the near-past reality (wikinews), it's time to think of wikis for planning future reality. Or in practical terms, we should simply set an ultimatum to all political parties: either wikify or you get voted out of office because we consider you to be closed, secretive authoritarian organisations. Of course, if ordinary democrat-party members tried copying the Canadian Green Party, then after the initial new technology fear is overcome, the hierarchy would quickly lose power... Boud 23:08, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Copyvio?
I believe the first line of this text is a direct copy of dailykos.com 68.32.193.91 00:35, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) And that's me... Lyellin 00:37, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) thx; fixed now Paulrevere2005 03:54, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Keep it up!
As a republican, things like this are wonderful. Keep it up! Howard Dean as head of the party?! HA! That too is great. Having Michael Moore stand close to Kerry as he was running for president, oh, thats wonderful. Keep digging a bigger hole for yourselves, you fools. Saddam violated the 1991 cease fire agreement, and attempted to assasinate president Bush Sr, and all Clinton did was lob some cruise missiles at him, what a joke. North Korea was caught developing weapons of mass destruction, and all Clinton did was get them to promise to stop, and look what happened. Because of Clinton and the recent actions of the Democratic party, I will NEVER vote for another Democrat, and I live in liberal California, of all places.
 * While I won't label myself, I'm split on this issue. I don't believe the offenses committed are impeachable, but I do feel rather irritated about them.  The Downing Street memo completes the picture of what was going through the minds of the American and British leadership in the leadup to the war on Iraq.  If we were told we were going to war with Iraq BECAUSE of the violation of the 1991 cease fire agreement and BECAUSE Saddam allegedly attempted to assassinate former President George H.W. Bush (you could also add to that list Iraq's use of chemical warfare against Saddam's own people),
 * Comment[] Paulrevere2005 17:19, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

then we could have had an honest discussion about whether these justifications were enough cause to invade their country again. Based on the outcome of that discussion and public reaction to the idea, we as a representative republic could have come to some reasonable conclusion as to the proper course of action. But we were told that we were in grave danger of attack by weapons of mass destruction. The United Nations has had a three-item checklist for when it is proper to depose a leader and invade a country; this is detailed in the memo and none of the items really applied to the situation at hand - except if we said that they had weapons of mass destruction. The sentence "the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy [of invasion]" is what many are rightly calling the smoking gun that tends to remove doubt that we (the British and American leadership) just had bad intelligence. That excuse can no longer be used in the wake of this memo. And that is why this is a major concern and deserves to be discussed on the national level. I don't believe impeachment is the proper outcome of this discussion, that's just my opinion, but I do think those in power cannot escape some degree of blame for their actions. - Mark McCartney (talk) 16:24, 2005 Jun 14 (UTC) By focusing on WMD's as the primary cause, Bush succeeded in intimidating the other countries that we will likely attack next. So far, this policy paid off big time in the case of Libya. Not a single bullet was fired, and Libya gave up their WMD program. If you think life is bad now, wait until America gets nuked. And yes, this will happen regardless of what we do. We can become the kindest liberal pussies in the world, and it will not stop the attack that is coming. I predict it will be a pakistani nuke that is sold to terrorists, after Musharrif is out of power. I predict that we will nuke Iran in response, because of their lack of cooperation, and our inability to figure out who did it. If you think life is bad now, wait about 10-20 years. The future is very bleak. Nuclear weapons and human nature can not coexist. As for saddam, he admitted he wanted the Iranians to think he had WMDs. Saddam was a thug who did not know how to play the game of geopolitics, or else he would not of acted the way he did all thru clintons term. He never considered the next president looking back on what's transpired, and deciding to take him down, what a FOOL. Doing troop movements up to Kuwait on the same day that Clinton is to be impeached, forcing Clinton to do either nothing (bad) or bomb Saddam (bad). What type of crap is this from an unelected dictator who lost a war to us then broke the cease fire that ended the war? We must uphold our hard earned reputation if we are to have peace, my grandfather and uncle did not die in previous wars so we can become wimps who weak dictators can successfully challenge. Dont forget, when asked if they thought Saddam had WMDs, Germany, France, Britain, America, and most of the others said yes. When you factor in saddam as a person, and his recent actions, the decision was made by Bush to take him down. Dont think Bush chose WMD as a way to sell it to the public, because he doesnt need public approval to take military action. Think about that for a second, there is no vote, it's an executive decision. The only question is how to deal with Iran and North Korea and Libya, and probably a few others. They answer is to get as much political leverage as possible as a byproduct of taking down saddam. If we find WMDs, great. If not, who cares, it's saddams fault, not ours, and now the other problem countries know we are serious about WMD. Now Libya surrenders BEFORE the fight occurs, and lives are saved. Ignoring the fact that his missiles' range were also a violation of the cease fire agreement, and even if we KNEW he didn’t have WMDs, taking down saddam WAS justified, morally and legally. Break a cease fire agreement, and the war is back on. This was a continuation of the first Gulf war, not a new war. This is what happens when an unelected thug becomes a player on the world stage, and doesn’t know how to play the game: he loses. The memo you mention is probably real, welcome to politics. Politics is as dirty as a game as warfare and law and medical and others. The Iraqis are feeling the pain of having a tumor cut out of their body. Good tissue got cut out with some bad, some blood was lost, an infection (jihadis) is being fought. They are healing and will be healthy in the future. If it was up to France, they would be on pain killers while the tumor grew. (unsigned by 66.82.9.46)

 * How to edit a page says that the talk page is "...where Wikinews users make more detailed comments about the article."

 * Article talk pages are for discussion of the article itself, rather than the issue that the article is about. If you think the article is biased, or contains factual errors, or has relavent information missing, then please discuss it here. Other conversations should be had elsewhere. - Borofkin 07:16, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry Borofkin; I should have taken this discussion to the users' talk page and would have done so had it not been an anonymous user who I was not sure was going to stick around. - Mark McCartney (talk) 00:08, 2005 Jun 18 (UTC)

Quote of the resolution?
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In the section quoting the resolution, there is a closing Blockquote tag, but the equivalent opening tag appears to be missing? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:29, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Done. --Green Giant (talk) 00:12, 24 January 2021 (UTC)


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Additionally, thanks for experimenting with Wikinews. Your test worked, and has now been reverted or removed. Please use Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles will be reverted quickly.--Ryan524 18:57, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Ryanair exercises options on five Boeing 737s

June 13, 2005 Irish low cost airline, Ryanair, announced today that it is exercising its options with Boeing to purchase five new 737 aircraft. This brings Ryanair's total number of outstanding orders with the US manufacturer to 230.

The new planes, which come from the 737-800 range, will be fitted with blended winglets to boost fuel efficiency by as much as 3%. Ryanair CEO, Michael O'Leary, justified his choice of Boeing by saying, "The Boeing 737-800 has the best technical reliability and ensures that Ryanair is the number one on-time major airline in Europe"..."In addition, it has the lowest unit operating cost. The addition of these five aircraft will continue to enable us to develop more new routes across Europe and bring low fares to many more European consumers."

Ryanair is the world's most profitable airline, having reported record profits of €269m earlier this year, and is pursuing an aggressive expansion plan which will see it's total number of passengers jump to 70m over the next few years. At present Ryanair has 91 aircraft and 230 on order.


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Wikinews talk:WNN:About

Ryan524 currently has control over the WNN server, and he is blocking access from my auto stream that plays Audio Wikinews and Audio Wikinews Briefs. Ryan, please stop this. NGerda 19:24, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * The server is down for matniece, can't you read the message, i am almost finished with it, i need to keep up on it or pay the price.--Ryan524 19:26, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Then I hope when the maintenance is over, I can continue streaming Audio Wikinews Briefs and Full Reports. NGerda 19:29, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

great!
first of all, guys, chill! (above) secondly, this sounds an absolutely fantastic idea - if this takes off (which is very possible) it could gain enormous media attention, especially if other news sources get worried! because i am useless and totally incapable, i can only wish the best of luck with the venture, and offer to help with anything not too time-essential or technically demanding!--81.157.105.75 20:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Ryan and I have worked all of this out, and we're friends again. WNN is taking a huge leap and bringing wiki to broadcasting (stary tuned).  If you want, you can sign up on our schedule an do a half-hour show per week, or whatever you'd like.  And be sure to get a username! :) NGerda 21:40, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

I just want to say...
...that this is one of the coolest ideas ever and that I want to get involved, even if every damn thing has to be explained to me.

I'm a 21 y/o male with what I have been told is a good voice for radio. What better place to give it a try?

Anyway, please email me at antiantitrust -at- mail.com or IM me on AIM - liberty484

rock on. PaulHanson 2 July 2005 05:05 (UTC)

To contact WNN email somebody? Huh?!
This seems like an interesting experiment, but I would note that having an email address for a wikimedia subproject's subproject is quite unwiki, as is the idea that someone "is" WNN and would respond via email. Questions and their answers should be posted openly in wiki form. Who is in control of this WikinewsNet@gmail.com email address? The entire community? If not, in what way does it have anything to do with a wiki?
 * I have absolutely no idea where that address goes. I am going to excise it from the page. Dan100 (Talk) 16:07, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Seems like it's gone already. Phew. Dan100 (Talk) 16:08, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 * yup, I hope that verbal folks amongst us will use voice recognition software to contribute to the written stories that document in a more readily available way the events and happenings that effect our daily lives. :)68.232.153.54 21:50, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

How wiki-friendly can this be with privately-owned resources?
How can this project be wiki friendly at all if some of the resources are owned by and controlled by private individuals who are not clearly identified, and who have already shown a possible tendency to conduct this in a manner quite contrary to established wiki-like practices? -- Samrolken 04:41, July 9, 2005
 * The private sources are temporary solutions to test out the process. Once the project is approved, it will be moved over to Wikimedia's servers. -- NGerda 21:37, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Correct. It isn't "wiki" by strict definition since it is not text-based and cannot be edited easily by anyone after publication to the site. On a technical and user interactive level, WNN has more in commmon with the Wikicommons project, which is a collection of non-text media which is freely available for use by others. -- Davodd | Talk 21:42, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

email
I replaced email address, will ensure correct responses to questions by those who are working on the project, you can also send an email if you would like to work on the project, many people working on the project have access to it, and to request access just send an email to it. You can still make your questions public at WNN:Questions, the point of email is a way to get quick accurate responses about it from people working on it.--Ryan524 07:03, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

'This is WNN' music idea...
Hi.

In relation to Station idents and programme music has thought been given to potentially using the opening and closing them style music developed for the video Broadcast WikiNews project?

Apparently there had been a theme written already.

I'd also like to suggest an alternative idea for ident or theme music...

The phrase WNN, Wiki or Wikinews could be rendered in more and the morse code used as the basis of some kind of station ident or music...

WNN as morse would be : .-- -. -. Wiki as morse would be : .-- .. -.- ..

The morse phrases could thn be used as the basis fro a more complex tune. (much in the way that the pusdeomorse/timesignal on News24 is)

.. If you wnated to be really simplistic you could use the just the first two bars of Beethovan's fifth. (although technically in morse this would be VV rather than W). BTW The use of well known musical cue for a Radio station ident is not without precedent.

Suggetion re start of bullitens and end of field reports...
At start of bullitens I's like to suggest something like the following..

Starting with a timesignal from some kind of control server...

 (during which mic transfers to bulliten anchor) 'This is WNN in '  'The headlines at:'  (Could insert appropriate phrase for Worls, US etc here)

At the end of the bulliten you could use something like.. ..'For WNN, that was the News at'

Additonaly I'd like to suggest that the practice followed by UK media at the end of field reports is a good one to follow... Namely the  'From' 'for WNN.' style of ending a report.
 * These are great suggestions, and we are aiming for a BBC Radio/NPR style of reporting. -- NGerda 16:16, July 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Great. I'd like to state a BBC/NPR style would be excellent. The 'This is ' is
 * essentialy a vartion on what BBC World Service uses...

Related to News- What about the Weather?
I know this is tangentially related to WNN but has anyone given any consideration as to how WNN could give reports of a meterologicla nature?

In other words would it be possible for WNN to have short Weather forecasts.

I suppose the closest example I can think of for a possible idea is a format something like a city-based version of the UK shipping forecast, but perhaps less technical..

WNN is not a historical project
Samrolken has attempted to portray WNN as a "historical project". WNN is continually being worked on and improved by a number of Wikinewsies in preparation for a second proposal. Just because the community has decided it is not ready for Wikinews at this time and in its current state does not make it a "historical project". -- NGerda 08:38, August 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I thought WNN was dead. Like it should be. Samrolken 09:15, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, it is not, and please do say it is just because you think "it should be". -- NGerda 17:32, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

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Airbus wins Qatar Airways order worth $15bn

June 13, 2005

European aircraft manufacturer, Airbus, has won an order from Qatar Airways for up to 60 of its new mid-sized A350 jets. The order, which is believed to be worth $15 billion, has given a boost to an otherwise disappointing Paris Air Show, which had been dominated by a state aid dispute between Airbus and Boeing.

Qatar Airways, which choose the Airbus A350 over Boeing's 787, will also purchase 20 of Boeing's larger 777 planes for $4.6 billion. Qatar has a previous order for 2 of Airbus' massive new A380's which it will begin to fly in 2009 out of London Heathrow.

In 2004, Airbus sold more planes than Boeing for the first time ever, sparking questions whether the US company had lost its once seemingly impregnable grip on the aviation market. However thus far, Boeing has received far more orders than Airbus in 2005.


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Michael Jackson found 'not guilty' on all counts

June 13, 2005

The jury hearing the Michael Jackson trial has come to a final decision today, drawing to a close the long and widely hyped trial centering on the famous performer.

On this June 13, 2005, the jury in the Michael Jackson trial announced a verdict of not guilty on all 10 counts. The charges which were brought up against Jackson included:

 * One count of conspiracy to commit child abduction, false imprisonment or extortion: Not guilty
 * Four counts of lewd acts with a child under 14: Not guilty
 * One count of attempted lewd act on child under 14: Not guilty
 * Four counts of giving alcohol to enable child molestation: Not guilty

Emotional jurors of the case, some shedding a tear or two at the verdict's reading, stated that while they initially did not expect the decision to be made by today, they all felt that the decision made was the correct one, and that they indeed had more than 'reasonable doubt' about the claims against the performer.

For a juror to return a verdict of not guilty, the US judicial system dictates that they should have reasonable doubt about whether or not the individual has performed the alleged actions. The jurors said that they did this, also commenting that they kept a close eye on the instruction pages provided to them by the judge, often referring back to them when discussing evidence in the case which contributed to the final outcome.

Jackson left the courtroom without comment to reporters, and has remained silent since.


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The title should really be "Verdict reached in Michael Jackson trial, we just don't know what it is yet". :>) Don't make fun of my bunny person! :) NGerda 21:12, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

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Why is this story on the main page as one of the latest news reports if it's still under development? -Frazzydee 01:35, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)