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Talk:Long Beach, CA Redevelopment Agency ends talks for church

I attended the March 27th meeting, and spoke for two minutes. The chair kindly allowed me an additional minute. The attorney also spoke, as mentioned in the article. The meeting opened with a moment of silence because of a death in the community. Then the pledge, and the open mike. Then the board left. I talked to other people in the audience who were willing. The kind city clerk, Jan, gave me the minutes of the meeting on the 13th, and I requested a voice recording of that meeting for $5.00. In that meeting, the procedure for eminent domain was spelled out, according to the written minutes. I took the photos at the meeting. I thought the photo of the empty room told the story. The Redevelopment Agency is quite tight with information. I don't know why they feel that closed sessions are such a good idea. Presumably it is to protect someone's feelings, but whoever it is should just get over it.
 * Very nice job! :) --Deprifry|+T+ 14:09, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Great article! Pictures, meeting summary, great job! Lyellin 14:55, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

added audio to the article from official city recording.

The reference to "Norton" must be incorrect. I am trying to get Jan to respond a question on that point. The court with jurisdiction is determined by the zip code of the property in question, I have been told at the county court building on Ocean Blvd in Long Beach - meaning that the eminent domain action would need to be in the civl division in that building. I am trying to get a clarification.

Jan Pittman, the nice City Clerk, denies the conversation: Regarding the conversaiton. "I do not remember having this conversation. I would have no idea about where eminent domain proceedings would be filed. I'm not sure who you could have spoken to. The only thing I remember talking to you about at the top of the stairs was how to spell your name and the tapes." I have contacted the attorney to confirm or correct my recollection.

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White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card resigns

March 28, 2006

President Bush has announced that Andrew Card, White House Chief of Staff, has resigned, and will be replaced by current budget director Joshua Bolten.

In recent weeks Republican insiders have been urging the President to reshape his advisors to deal with his declining popularity ratings. Bolten has had wide experience both on Wall Street and in Washington. In Washington he has been the Deputy Chief of Staff and also the director of the Office of Management and Budget.

Card will remain as chief of staff until April 14. It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post. He had previously served as State Representative in Holbrook, Mass., his hometown, so it has been speculated that he may return to Mass. to run for office.

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Talk:Creekstone Farms sues USDA for refusing to allow mad cow testing

Is it just me, or is this article not understandable? -68.232.153.54 15:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

It is you. USDA is sueing over a moot point. Quite incredible really. Some farm wants to test all the animals it owns for BSE, and the USDA is refusing this. Genjix 18:00, 28 March 2006 (UTC)


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5.5 magnitude earthquake shakes Tokyo

March 28, 2006

At 13.30 GMT, a magnitude 6.0 earthquake 800 km south of Tokyo according to the Japan Meteorological Agency.

The quake affected Oita, Kochi and Miyazaki prefectures without any reports of injuries or severe damage.

The epicenter was reported below the Pacific Ocean floor, however; no tsunami alert was issued.

A previous earthquake in October of 2004 killed at least 40 people and injured 3,000 when a magnitude 6.8 earthquake shook the region of Niigata in northern Japan and in 1995 a magnitude 7.3 earthquake shook Kobe, Japan and killed at least 6,400 people.

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Talk:Thousands rally in Columbus, Ohio, for undocumented immigrants' rights

I wrote this article. It is based on my observations from attending the rally. You can visit my user page, Rrenner, on Wikipedia.
 * I've tried to revise the first paragraph and run into a problem, which I assume what you have listed as "External links" contains a resolution to. As you'll see for the inline link to Indymedia that you had, I've moved this to a sources section and used a specific template to cite it.  I'll take a look at what other links should be cited as sources and do that - but for the time being I've moved it to develop.  Key point to resolve is the claim that 500,000 protested in LA, I've not yet seen that sourced. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:40, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I believe Daily Show used the 500k number last night ;) 136.142.145.37 19:43, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

"Illegal" immigrants
The legislation does not relate to legal immigrants at all; thus neither do the demonstrations; so, we should be careful not to mislead. Rather than tag I wil try to remedy this. Neutralizer 17:44, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I have used the silly "undocumented" phraseolgy because the correct term, "illegal", has become taboo. Neutralizer 17:48, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * "Undocumented" would be improper. "Illegal" is the correct terminology.  For example, there were fires that destroyed many documents of thousands of American immigrants - some are still "undocumented", but they are all still legally here.--MrMiscellanious (talk) – 19:34, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Length
This article, simply enough, is too short to be considered a complete article. There is very little content in here about the rally, which is showcased in the title. I feel there could be more content that should be included in this article, as of right now I'm seeing more links than text here. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 19:37, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

 * This is not the case. Yes, it is short on content. No it is not incomplete. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 02:14, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

 * The phrase: a picture is worth a thousand words comes to mind. ;)  Nyarlathotep 19:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Factual inaccuracies

 * "7000 rally"
 * States only 3 thousand participants, not seven.

 * "US Senate, HR 4437, which would make it a felony to be an illegal alien, or to help illegal aliens."
 * Incorrect, the bill does not make it a felony charge for those who "help" illegal immigrants, generally (there are exceptions, obviously, but not as broad as it is represented).

 * "Organizers also called for true immigration reform that would provide a path to citizenship for all immigrant workers."
 * Area highlighted above shows a statement that is undoubtedly opinionated, and therefore is not acceptable to our policies.

Once again, adding the cleanup tag and pushing this to development. This article, as it is currently and how it has been in the past 10 days, is seriously flawed and does not meet to Wikinews' standards. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 02:31, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I have updated the numbers.
 * You are wrong, see http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c109:1:./temp/~c109TLJXrI:e65525: "SEC. 205. MANDATORY SENTENCING RANGES FOR PERSONS AIDING OR ASSISTING CERTAIN REENTERING ALIENS."
 * Organizers may call for what they wish; this is called ascribing an opinion or point of view.

Do not retag without putting forth good-faith efforts to edit the article. You are performing tag-and-dash, which is a form of site disruption. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 18:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * And you were publishing an article sub-par to Wikinews' policies. That is also considered disruption.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 19:28, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


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UK public sector workers strike over pension rights

March 29, 2006 Local Government workers in the UK withdrew their labour yesterday as part of a dispute over pension entitlements. The members of 11 different trades unions were involved in the 24hr strike. As the day began they declared that support for the strike was solid. Although the strikers work for local councils, their pay and conditions are agreed nationally. The Local Government Association which represents the local councils in England and Wales declared predictions that 1.5 million people would stay away from work as "wildly optimistic".

The Unions' complaint is that local government workers are being treated unfavourably compared to other public sector employees. They say that agreements on pensions that have been reached with civil servants, teachers and health workers will allow those staff to continue to retire at 60 while local government staff will be forced to work until they are 65. Civil servants work for national government, teachers work for local councils but have their own pension arrangements and most health workers are employed by the state-controlled National Health Service.

The Local Government Association claims that if council workers continue to be able to retire at 60, it will increase the levels of Council Tax (a tax on people living in properties which funds a proportion of local government expenditure) by 2%.

The striking workers provide a wide range of services from assisting teachers in the class room, through inspecting kitchens for hygiene to provising care to the vulnerable in society. In some places council workers collect tolls for road tunnels or manage ferries. Mainstream media have reported on the strike all day with heavy coverage of disruption to commuters where transport has been affected. The unions have emphasised the large number of their members who are women working in low paid jobs.

The Government which regulates the scheme claimed that the early retirement provisions (called the rule of 85) were age-discriminatory and had to be removed.

The strike ended at midnight. The Unions have not declared any further strike days.

The Unions involved were AEP, AMICUS, CYWU, GMB, NAPO, NIPSA, NUJ, NUT, TGWU, UCATT and UNISON.


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Talk:5.5 magnitude earthquake shakes Tokyo

Two points:
 * I can't get the Sky News source to load in either MSIE or Firefox.
 * The Peninsula online source states "The quake was not felt in Tokyo, about 800km to the north.", this is in direct contradiction of what our article states. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:02, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Sky news does say so
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1216852,00.html?f=dta

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 * Perhaps instead of accusing people of committing defamation against you and merrily committing copyright infringement of Sky's material all over wikinews you could have fixed the link referenced in the source. I have fixed it to the one you provided - which currently still works. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)


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Buffalo, N.Y. hotel proposal gets final approval by city Planning Board

The proposed Elmwood Village Hotel got the final approval it needed from the city of Buffalo's Planning Board this morning.

In a unanimous vote, the Board approved most of the design and site plan of the hotel.

The Elmwood Village Hotel is a proposed hotel by Savarino Construction Services Corporation and is designed by architect Karl Frizlen of the Frizlen Group. It is to be placed on the corner of Elmwood and Forest Avenues in Buffalo and will require the demolition of at least five properties (1109-1121 Elmwood).

Despite the fact that today's meeting was not a "public hearing", several citizens lashed out at the Board after the approval.

"Thanks for destroying Buffalo," said one man.

"[I am] disgusted. Because they did not allow the community to speak, it is the bastardization of the concepts of justice and democracy, and that's what happened [today]," said Clarence Carnahan, a local business owner and concerned citizen, to Wikinews. He also referred to some board members as "immoral pigs."

"[I feel] frustration because no one could speak. I was going to address the displacement of all the shops that are there and that they should be grand-fathered into the new space. We did not get to say that. [I am disappointed] that they are endorsing this enormous monstrosity." said Nancy Pollina, co-owner of Don Apparel with Patty Morris at 1119 Elmwood.

Although the Board approved the hotel proposal, Savarino Construction must still go before the board to approve things such as signage and lighting. The Planning Board meets again on April 11, 2006 at 8:00a.m., but it is unknown if the hotel proposal will be on the agenda.

Lawsuits likely to be filed
Pano Georgiadis, owner of Pano's Restaurant at 1081 Elmwood and owner of 605 Forest Avenue in Buffalo, threatened to sue Savarino Construction at a public meeting on March 15, 2006 saying, "if you try to get a variance to change the code, I will sue you. This is my home, number one. If you go against city code, and you try to do the most rooms with a minimal amount of parking, again, I will sue you."

Today, Georgiadis confirmed to Wikinews that he is "definitely" suing, but that his "situation is different" as compared to others looking into legal action. "This is my property. They did it [changed the code] without my approval."

Last week, the Common Council voted and approved the rezoning of all five properties including 605 Forest.

Some are also considering taking the case to the New York State Supreme Court to "seek an injunction" and would go "pro se, meaning I am going to present the case myself," said Carnahan.

Organizers schedule another protest
Despite the approvals by the Common Council and Planning Board, organizers schedulaed another protest for Saturday April 1, 2006 at 2:00p.m. on the proposed site at Forest and Elmwood.

"We are not going to go down without a fight. We are going to go kicking and screaming," said Pollina.


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Talk:Buffalo, N.Y. hotel proposal gets final approval by city Planning Board

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Quotes are on tape, I attended the meeting. Jason Safoutin 18:12, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Is there an extreme paucity of stories being submitted to this website?

It seems excessive that such a limited issue as this has got so much airtime. It's terrible that businesses are being displaced, but in the grand scheme of things I am not sure that it warrants ten stories and a feature. Seeing (from the photos) as there were about ten protesters there, it's equivalent to each person getting their own personal whinge.

Imagine if the hundreds of thousands of protesters in France decided to write stories complaining about the new job laws?

 * Holy cow. Jason! You were at the meeting? I found the coverage so interesting. Would you (consider) adding the category "zoning" to the article. I did a "original reporting" article on the same day about a Long Beach California redevelopment issue. I added an audio to my story. Eminent domain is a hot topic, and I thought that "zoning" might be a good category for it. I couldn't think of a better word. Maybe you can? MartinGugino 12:15, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

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Former Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger dies at 88

March 28, 2006 Former United States Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger has died in the state of Maine today at the age of 88. Weinberger was hospitalized for pneumonia and having a high fever shortly before his death.

Weinberger served under Ronald Reagan's administration during the 1980's, in which he pushed for more defense programs in the United States military, including the Strategic Defense Initiative space defense program. He was also indicted on felony counts of lying to the independent counsel investigating the Iran-Contra Affair, but was pardoned by then-President George H. W. Bush days before he was to go on trial..

Weinberger also was the publisher and chairman of Forbes Magazine in the early 1990's. He authored a book, Fighting for Peace, and co-authored another with Peter Schweizer, entitled The Next War. Both books are based on the effects of the Cold War.

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U.S.A. researchers report plagiarism in Putin's dissertation

March 29, 2006

Researchers at the Brookings Institution, a non-profit think tank located in Washington D.C., have recently accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of making improper use of almost 16 pages and six figures from a 1982 translation of a 1978 textbook in his economics dissertation. Strategic Planning and Policy, written by University of Pittsburgh professors William R. King and David I. Cleland, was published in 1979.

Brookings Institution researchers Clifford Gaddy and Igor Danchenko claim that Putin's dissertation, which earned him a candidate's degree in economics from the St. Petersburg Mining Institute, copies almost verbatim from the text.

Gaddy states, "I'm convinced that Putin did read that textbook. This is exactly the style of governing the country that he has used in Russia. He's actually taking their ideas and treating Russia as if it's a corporation -- 'Russia Incorporated.'"

Many Russian government officials at the time would pay a ghostwriter for such publications, as gaining a degree could add legitimacy to one's governing policy. In that sense, it is possible Putin bought or paid for the dissertation and did not read over - in essence, passing plagiarised work off as his own, but not himself committing plagiarism. Gaddy states: "It's very clear he never wrote the thing in the first case, this is a clear diploma-mill-type operation. This is a dissertation, paid for, made-to-order."

Although Gaddy and Danchenko set out searching for Putin's views on economics and sustainable development, they noticed in reading his dissertation that certain sections seemed out of place. The only English language source in the text was King and Cleland's book. In the translation from Russia to English of the dissertation, text was discovered that came from that book without credit.

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Thousands rally in Columbus, Ohio, for undocumented immigrants' rights

March 28, 2006

On March 26, thousands rallied outside the Columbus, Ohio statehouse, advocating rights for undocumented immigrants. This was one of a series of rallies following one in Los Angeles, which was reported to have drawn over 500,000 attendees.

The sponsoring coalition included the Immigrant Worker Project, the Farm Labor Organizing Committee (FLOC), UFCW Local 880, MIGUATE (of [Dover, Ohio]), and the Red [network] de Inmigrantes de Ohio. Organizers wanted to raise awareness of bill pending in the US Senate, HR 4437, which would make it a felony to be an illegal alien, or to assist aliens in entering or staying the country illegally. Organizers also called for "true" immigration reform plan that would provide a path to citizenship for all immigrant workers.


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Thai police forward anti-Thaksin PAD accusations to Corruption Commission

March 28, 2006

An attempt to have the Thai police bring charges against current caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has resulted in the police forwarding the allegations brought by the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) to the National Counter-Corruption Commission (NCCC). The accusations centre around the attempted privatisation of EGAT, the Electricity Generating Authority of Thailand. The privatisation process was derailed last week with the ruling issued by the country's Supreme Administrative court. They struck down two royal decrees that had been written to allow listing the utility company on the Stock Exchange of Thailand.

Sondhi Limthongkul, one of the main representatives of the PAD, delivered the complaint to police secretary Maj-Gen Prawut Thavornsiri on Monday. According to the Thai News Agency, the accusation that the legislation attempting to privatise EGAT was an act of malfeasance has been forwarded to the NCCC by the police.

With PAD protesters using every tactic they can think of to remove the caretaker PM ahead of this Sunday's election, the street demonstrations that have characterised the protests since before the announcement of the snap election have moved. Now focussing on the business areas of Bangkok, today's protest centred on Siam Paragon, an up-market retail complex where protesters sought to bring their anti-Thaksin message to shoppers.


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Exit polls suggest Kadima victory in Israeli elections

March 28, 2006 Early exit polls for the Israeli parliamentary elections suggest that the newly formed Kadima party of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Acting PM Ehud Olmert managed to capture between 28 and 32 seats in the 17th Knesset with Labor coming in second with 20 to 22 seats ahead of Yisrael Beiteinu with 12 to 14 seats. Likud got 11 or 12 seats, the National Religious Party took 8 or 9 seats and Shas 10 or 11 seats. The Pensioners party performed better than expected, capturing 6 to 8 seats, United Torah Judaism got 5 to 6 seats and Meretz around 5 seats. Arab parties are expected to get 7 or 8 seats.

The results mean that Olmert could probably form a center-left coaltion to implement his unilateral disengagement plan for the West Bank.

"Kadima has won today. The next prime minister is Ehud Olmert," said Roni Bar-On, a Member of the Knesset for Kadima. His party did worse than expected from opinion polls, which saw them at gaining about 40 seats.

"This a crisis unlike any that has ever hit Likud," said Dan Naveh, a senior MK of the party referring to Likud's fall from being one of the dominating Israeli parties in the last decades to finishing only 4th.

Correspondents for the BBC stress that Israeli exit polls are considered to be relatively unreliable, and that it may take some time to get definitive results.


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Talk:UK petrol prices rise to five-month high

Headline
Wikinews:Style guide -- Headlines 1 Make them unique and specific. 2 Make them short. 3 Use verbs. 4 Use downstyle capitalisation. 5 Write in a neutral point of view. 6 Tell the most important and unique thing. 7 Use present tense. 8 Use active voice. 9 Try to attribute any action to someone. 10 Avoid jargon and meaningless acronyms. 11 Use comma, not 'and' or '&'. "UK petrol prices rising since December 2005" was moved to "UK petrol prices rise to five-month high". Error: see #3 above. —67.21.48.122 20:24, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

US
Why do we need to have the US/Gallon in this article. By having that it could be sad that we should have AU$ etc Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 05:47, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I dunno. One *could* argue that the US Dollar is a good point of reference for the world as it's a well-known currency. The buying power of the dollar is well known in some parts of the world. I personally wouldn't object to it's removal, if you wish. --Chiacomo (talk) 05:52, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


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Talk:Thai police forward anti-Thaksin PAD accusations to Corruption Commission

Today's Wikinews
Why has a "Today's Wikinews" sidebar been included in this article? It's not normal to do that. —67.21.48.122 20:40, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Says who? The template is provided to add a "decoration" that allows readers to easily navigate to other content on wikinews. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:44, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Clearly it is I who say so. As evidence, I offer the observation that of yesterday's 12 articles, none is likewise decorated. I fear a lady burdened with so relatively large an adornment would stagger.
 * —67-21-48-122 21:21, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I just realized that if this 2006 article is read next year, "Today's Wikinews" will refer to current (2007) articles. Will the reader welcome that, or just be annoyed by it? If I save a copy to print, the hard copy will include the sidebar of the day the copy was made, not of the date of the article. Is that likely to be welcome?
 * —67-21-48-122 11:58, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Headline
Wikinews:Style guide -- Headlines 1 Make them unique and specific. 2 Make them short. 3 Use verbs. 4 Use downstyle capitalisation. 5 Write in a neutral point of view. 6 Tell the most important and unique thing. 7 Use present tense. 8 Use active voice. 9 Try to attribute any action to someone. 10 Avoid jargon and meaningless acronyms. 11 Use comma, not 'and' or '&'. "Thaksin malfeasance accusation forwarded to Corruption Commission"

was moved to

"Thai police forward PAD accusation to Corruption Commission".

Error: see #3 above. "forwarded" was not a verb in the previous headline.

—67-21-48-122 21:00, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

OK, now it reads,

"Thai police forward anti-Thaksin protesters' accusations to Corruption Commission".

I'm not sure, but identifying the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) as protesters seems dangerously non-NPOV. The allegations were made by the PAD, only some of whom, I suspect, are "protesters". Would

"Thai police forward anti-Thaksin PAD accusations to Corruption Commission" be agreeable?

—67-21-48-122 21:58, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Missed this comment yesterday... The group was formed primarily to protest against misdeeds of the government of Thaksin Shinawatra, most notably being the allegation that he has used his position to the financial benefit of his family through the Shin Corporation sale to Temasek Holdings. I suspect the People's Alliance for Democracy would self-identify as protesters as they grew out of the mass rallies started by Sondhi Limthongkul when his show was dropped from terrestrial TV for reporting allegations of corruption.  Yes, there's a bunch of academics and ex-Senators joined in around the time the election was announced but, as they're planning the protests and speaking when they reach their rallying points, aren't they protesters too? --Brian McNeil / talk 15:54, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * That convinces me. I'd move it again, but maybe it's unseemly late. As is though, it does say "anti-Thaksin," gives the protesters' organization's name, and is shorter with "PAD" than with "protesters'"
 * —67-21-48-122 11:41, 30 March 2006 (UTC)


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Beatles' Apple Corps sues Apple Computer

March 28, 2006

The Beatles' Apple Corps has filed a lawsuit against computer and electronics maker Apple Computer in a London court this week, the third such lawsuit in a long running trademark dispute between the two companies. Apple Corps claims that Apple Computer's iTunes Music Store violates an agreement reached between the two companies in 1991, which barred Apple Computer from using the "Apple" brand in certain uses in the music business.

The trial is set to begin on Wednesday in the Royal Courts of Justice, located in central London. Presiding Judge Martin Mann has stated that he owns an iPod portable music player, which is made by Apple Computer and marketed alongside the iTunes Music Store.

Apple Corps has twice before sued Apple Computer over its use of the "Apple" name. The first lawsuit was settled out of court in 1981, with the young computer maker paying $80,000 and agreeing to stay out of the music business.

In the late 1980's Apple Computer added audio recording abilities to its Macintosh computers, prompting Apple Corps to file suit again in 1989. That lawsuit was settled in 1991, also out of court, with Apple paying $26.5 million. The settlement included a more specific agreement over the boundaries between the two brands: Apple Computer was allowed to use its name to market "goods or services...used to reproduce, run, play or otherwise deliver such [music] content," but barred from distributing music on a physical medium such as CD or cassette.

Apple Corps' latest suit, filed in September 2003, claims that the computer company violated the 1991 agreement with its iTunes Music Store, which sells digital music that can be downloaded to personal computers. A statement from Apple Computer stated that "Apple and Apple Corps now have differing interpretations of this agreement and will need to ask a court to resolve this dispute." Some observers have suggested that the wording of the 1991 agreement, which did not explicitly bar digital music distribution, could be to Apple Computer's advantage.

A similar suit was filed simultaneously in California, Apple Computer's home state, but on September 21, 2004 the parties agreed to have the case heard by the UK court.

Beatles songs have not been licensed for digital download on any of the online music services.

Apple Corps was founded by the Beatles in 1968. Apple Computer was started by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak in 1976, and launched the iTunes Music Store in 2003.


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Cyclone Glenda intensifies to Category 5 storm

March 29, 2006

Tropical Cyclone Glenda has intensified overnight. According to the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, Glenda was upgraded from a category 3 to a category 5 storm around 8 p.m WST Tuesday (1200 UTC).

The Bureau of Meteorology predicts Glenda will approach the coast later today. The bureau is also warning about the possibility of gale force winds along the Pilbara coast between Pardoo and Mardie. These winds are predicted to extend west to Exmouth tomorrow.

The bureau is also warning residents of the central and west Pilbara coast that there is a risk of 200 Kilometre per hour (124 miles per hour) winds tomorrow as Glenda nears land.


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Talk:Cyclone Glenda intensifies to Category 5 storm

Original Reporting
Article is writen solely using data on the Australian Bureau of Meteorology's website - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 21:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

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Please add Category:Hurricane season, 2006 to this article. Thanks – Juliancolton  | Talk 00:43, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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Talk:U.S.A. researchers report plagiarism in Putin's dissertation

Hot stuff! —67-21-48-122 22:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Very interesting. However, the alliteration in the headline seems a bit forced. --167.83.10.24 18:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * It wasn't intended ;) Lyellin 19:04, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Russian Context/Iraq espionage context discussion
I was a little brave in adding the Iraq espionage context, hope you don't feel I was out of line. SethDelisle 20:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Oh - def not out of line to add stuff to articles, and good that you went here to explain it... I just happen to think it's not needed at all ;) Lyellin 20:12, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

The Pitsburg times article appears to contains original reporting; but it echos the reporting of the Washington Times, which is the paper that broke the story on the 26th. Perhaps that should be the primary reference. It's significant that the post broke the story because, to quote the wikipedia entry:

In truth, most established journalists [2] (apart from conservative columnists) do not view the Times positively[3] and would not wish to work there in light of its ownership.

There is some more context missing in this article, in fact as the article stands, it alludes to a fact in a rather confusing way. According to serveral articles, including the wt article, it was common for "up and comming" politicians to have ghost writers write their dissertations. So Puting wouldn't be responsible for plagiarism, but instead of some sort of accademic fraud. A type of fraud that may be socially acceptible in his circle. I guess what I'm saying is that this article may be a little like a US news source criticising Francois Mitterand for having a lover at a time of political tension between the US and France. SethDelisle 20:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm not sure that the context of Russia is really needed. The article focuses on what these two researchers accused Putin of - not anything regarding the US. Can you explain again why it was added - I don't see how the rising tensions relate at all. Lyellin 19:53, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * The same reason that Saddam's underpants are germain to the war in Iraq. This story is juicy gossip, but why is it important? Essentially it's saying that Putin is dishonest person. Sure, we all know that, he's the head of a country, you only get there by being a sleezeball. No one in the English speaking world is likely to want to defend Putin, so it's really easy to smear him (he's a former KGB agent for crying out loud). But it is clear that there are tensions between the US and Russia, we're eating their former possesions by clever political means, Ukraine, Georgia, Kyrgystan... we disagree on Iran. News in the US usually boils all this down to: we're friends but Vlad is a little cooky. Look at the tensions we had at the end of the Bosnian war. Stricly speaking I don't think it counts as NPOV to echo a slur like this without some kind of context. SethDelisle 20:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * May I also suggust signing your comments by using three or four tildes (~). Anyway - yes, there is a western context to this, but it's news because of the plagerism - plagerism is a crime, and news no matter who committs it. It would be the case if it was the Canadian Prime Minister, the American Justice Deparment Deputy Head, or for that matter anyone else with any position anywhere. It happens to be Putin, but the news is not the Russian relationship with the US, but the plagerism, which is considered a crime. Lyellin 20:06, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * But you're missing a subtle point. Putin might not have been the one to do the plagarising, according to most of the articles.  Instead he would be guilty of a far greater dishonesty (having a ghost writer write the whole dissertation).  But if that was a common thing in the time and place that it happened then we (Americans, the original authors of the article, the Brookings Institute, etc.) are applying our values to another society, hence NPOV.

 * Also, I don't think it particulary matters which source is cited - irregardles of why someone wants to work at the Washington Times or not. We can add the source - it doesn't really matter, it's good to have more sources, but I don't think your reasoning for adding it really works. Lyellin 19:55, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * My reasoning is that because the Washington Times is subsidised by the Reverend Sun Yun Moon, a politically sketchy individual, it is more likely to do something politically sketchy, like start a smear campaign. Now, brookings, one of the Nations oldest think tanks, and the times are typically considered to be on opposite sides of the political spectrum... but I don't buy the "spectrum" in the first place. SethDelisle 20:21, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * That's drawing a conspiracy theory we don't really need to draw. Multiple news sources are reporting on it, including Mosnews.com - well, regardless, that's more of a conspiracy theory, and not something we can use to just discount the brookings instition, nor the article. Lyellin 20:26, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * OK, "conspiracy theory" is offsides. And please notice that I'm keeping my "conspiracy theory" on the talk page.  I just would like to to be easier for people to discover, on their own, who broke this story and come to their own conclusions as to why the story might have been broken in the first place. The source is a political think tank; the first to publice is Sun Yun Moon's newspaper. SethDelisle 20:54, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Offsides? If you mean, not polite, that may be true. But I have no problems sourcing the Washington Times article for this issue as well as the Pittsburgh Trib-Review - the PTR is just what I was using as a reference when it was written. It is mentioned in the article that Brookings is a think tank. We do not need to point out that The Times has ties to Sun Moon - we have no clue that that has ANYTHING to do with the publishing of the article. To say that it does is looking for a conspiracy. Lyellin 20:40, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I wasn't suggesting that we point out Sun Yun Moon in the article. I take the "conspiracy theory" comment in good humor, but I would seriously suggest you not use that term.  What is it good for?  It is a very charged term that implies illogic and all kinds of other failings in a person.  I understand that the base of your criticism was that I was pulling to many implications out of too little information; that is a resonable thing to call me on. SethDelisle 20:54, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I don't know that the mention of US-Russia relations is particularly germane to this story, either; it may be happening but I don't think that context makes much difference to this story. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I certainly respect the choice to remove the reference, but take a moment to think... If someone who's political views you respected was being accused of this kind of thing, what kind of context would you want. If you can imagine yourself being a proud Russian citizen how would you react to this story?  I think I would be muttering something about the quality of the education of the president of the United States and drunken frat boys ... SethDelisle 20:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Which is legitmate for talking about the President - in an article that related to either the President's education or his frat activities, if someone recently said something about it. But Russian wikinews would not write an article about said acitivites and then quote the rising tensions between the US/Russia - they are not germane to the topic, even though they may be an issue. Lyellin 20:33, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks everyone for discussing this issue with me, it looks like the concensus is that context is inappropriate. SethDelisle 20:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Hey, I just added the Washington Times article to the sources link. Lyellin 20:46, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Gross POV Title and content
I can't believe no one has tagged this. No response from Putin and the title proclaims the accusations as fact. This is another example of the anglo/american centric point of view threat to this project's credibility because if Bush was accused of the same thing there is absolutely no way the title "Bush dissertation plagiarizes from Pitt professors' book" would have been up nmore than 2 minutes. Neutralizer 21:13, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Read the sources Neutralizer, Putin has made no response. Also, if you don't like the title, what would you suggust? Lyellin 21:32, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I do not believe there is not a counter argument available online. Is that what you are saying? A better title would be "USA professors alledge plagiarism by Putin." Remember anglo/american centric point of view; most people in the world never heard of "Pitt" other than a gravel "pit" misspelled....the headline would be nonsense to them.

Also, please try to find a response from Putin's office. We do not publish such blatant POV unless we include a sourced reference to the fact that there has been no rebuttal. Neutralizer 21:52, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Excuse me. You want to find a response from Putin's office that is not there. Both sources state that when accuesd, he has no response, and research has not yet found one (I looked yesterday). Secondly, your title completely changes what actually happen. The professors haven't alledged anything, nor have they said it was Putin. Two researchers from Brookings have found 16 pages of text that is a plagerism of the book by two pitt professors, but every article, plus our own, comments that it was common practice to hire ghost writeres to write your disseration in Russia. Finally, in response to "Pitt" - one, I've responded on your text regarding this so called "American centric point of view" that you listed - it's not policy, nor should it be. Anyway.... The article clearly states what Pitt is, that's all it needs to do. Lyellin 21:57, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * It's all a matter of giving the same effort to NPOVing criticism of non-anglo leaders that we do to criticism of anglo-leaders. I found this in about 4 minutes;"According to The Moscow Times, "it was unclear...whether Putin had even read the thesis, which might have been intended to impress the Western investors who were flooding into St. Petersburg in the mid-1990s." Neutralizer 22:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * This article

http://washingtontimes.com/world/20060324-104106-9971r_page2.htm in the Washington times indicates that ghost writing was common in the USSR and that Putin may have never even have claimed to have written this material. Neutralizer 22:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * His name was put on the dissertation to obtain the MBA, so the title would remain factually correct. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:07, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Nonsense; one has to claim the writing to be plagiarizing. Please read the definition of plagiarism. This is an obvious "kick the Russians" article.

 * Please fix the pov; here is another source; http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2006/03/27/011.html

"It was unclear, however, whether Putin had even read the thesis, which might have been intended to impress the Western investors who were flooding into St. Petersburg in the mid-1990s, the report said. Putin oversaw the city's foreign economic relations at the time." I do a heck of a lot more work on my tags than MrM so hopefully next time he puts out a tag, you 2 will be as combative about challenging his tags. Neutralizer 22:12, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Let's see here. Every time I bring up a tag, you always ignore it and say it's not good enough.  Way to be!  Let's all do a dance.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 22:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to know more about Igor Danchenko, he's not listed on this page as a brookings scholar. And he otherwise doesn't show up much on the net thogh the Duck of Minerva recognises him as a former student. SethDelisle 23:38, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Should clarify that the alleged plagarism would be from the Russian translation of the book "Stratigic planning and policy," if that's what is alleged. Otherwise I'm not sure the word plagarism applies, or is Putin's dissertation in English? SethDelisle 00:03, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Another problem: the Kremlin bio of Putin calls the degree a Ph.D., and in economics not business. Anything to the contrary should be cited with a source.

Master's degree
I re-added this to clarify what a candidate's degree is for people who do not know - I would have just linked it to a wikipedia article instead, but could not find a reference that was appropiate. If someone else can, do the wikilink. Lyellin 02:31, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

No way man. You need to provide references that aren't so biased before publishing that. Putin says he has a Ph.D., you need to prove him wrong! I have ex-soviet friends who say that a Russian highschool diploma is worth more than a US bachelors... I don't agree but, you see these are maters of opinon. SethDelisle 02:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

What's fixable is fixed
I generally don't like the "bash the Russian," character of this article. The sources are all sketchy and there isn't any good counter from a perspective sympathetic to Putin. That said, I don't think the article is completely un-newsworthy; I'm publishing it and I propose that we leave it that way unless us nay sayers can come up with more specific actionable ideas for improvement. SethDelisle 02:36, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I think it's much better now. Sorry if I was grumpy before. Neutralizer 03:31, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Allege, Claim, Report
Amgine, you are concerned that I'm misusing the words claim and allege, I hope that I can convince you otherwise:

The American Heritage Dictionary's first definition says allege is a synonymous with "assert." Same source says that "claim" can mean "state to be true." The way you use report in the title, I feel matches the first two definitions given. I guess the disagreement here is over whether we think it's OK to just take Gady and Danchenko at their word. We have one source, there is no way to verify it without getting ahold of a very rare document--the Russian translation of "Strategic Planning and Policy." Then, we'd have to have some kind of agreement on how much alike the documents need to be before it's plagarism. The articles use the phrase "almost word for word." How close is almost for the authors? I feel that if we say "reported," it means we accept the assertion that they make and are taking responsibility for its veracity. So it's much easier, more NPOV and in my opinion more accurate to say either allege or claim. We are honestly reporting what Gady and Danchenko have told us, and its accuracy is for the reader to decide. SethDelisle 06:32, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * You fail to use the simplest term. A researcher publishes a report of his/her findings. It is the simplest, and most honest, term to use. It does not imply we agree their findings are correct, nor does it attempt to convince the audience of their veracity. It is clearly more neutral than claim, which implies lack of basis for the statement, or allege, which is connotatively accusing of criminal wrongdoing.

 * The simplest term, in this case, is best. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 06:37, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I think we agree that both plagiarism and having your dissertation written by a ghost writer count as wrongdoing. Don't we?  If no one else feels strongly about this, I'm not going to be pushy.  I agree with your point about simplicity but do not belive it applies in the case, otherwise I wouldn't hold the opinion that I do :) Thanks! SethDelisle 06:56, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * No, we do not. If it is illegal to do so, and a case is brought against Mr Putin by the appropriate authorities, we may say the authorities allege wrongdoing. The USA researchers, however, are not asserting wrongdoing. They are reporting their findings, with evidence. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 07:31, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I disagree with Amgine. The word "report" implies objectivity and correctness; e.g. "If a crime has been committed in your school, please report it to the police." Amgine's argument may be technically correct(although I am not even sure about that) but "claim" and "allege" are certainly more clear and thereby more NPOV, imo. Neutralizer 13:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC

 * It doesn't imply those, you think it implies those. Report means either notification or something, or relating the details of something. They are showing their findings, using evidence that is appropiate, in essence, reporting it. If claim or allege is used, it directly implies a criminal case, which the authors have said they will not intiate (although the publishers of the book could). Lyellin 14:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * You have presented no basis for casting doubt on the results and evidence of the researchers. Without doing so it is inappropriate to cast doubt in the title; it is in fact pushing a point of view - "I disagree with" - rather than neutral reporting. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 15:37, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I disagree with everything Amgine just said; it seems conspiracy theoretical to me. Neutralizer 17:52, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Putin's Credentials
Both Lyellin and AMGINE scolded me over making factual statements that are not supported by sources. I see the point you guys were making, but I still think it was a fair analysis of the situation. "He later earned a Ph.D. degree in economics." means that they translated the title of his degree as Ph.D. Which implies they consider the degree to be the equivalent of a Ph.D, which is what I said they said. SethDelisle 06:56, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * No - in no way do they say that. All the Bio says is that he has a Ph.D. It does not say when or where he earned it. In cultures with a Candidates degree it is normal (and I can find you examples), to present a thesis for both your candidates, and later a Ph.D. What you wrote was not supported by the source, that's all... it wasn't there. Lyellin 14:54, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Weak worded
Your source for the Putin Thesis is totally WRONG

http://sigla.rsl.ru/view.jsp?o=a&f=1016&t=3&v0=%D0%9F%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD&o=a&f=1003&t=1&v1=&o=a&f=4&t=2&v2=&o=a&f=21&t=3&v3=&o=a&f=1016&t=3&v4=&o=a&f=1016&t=3&v5=&tr=Cyr-Common&cc=n&i=3&s=2&i18n=en&ce=...U

It is pointing toward a different Putin, with paternal name "Semyonovich" instead of Putin's "Vladimirovich", plus the subject of this dissertation is financial resources for the regional firefighting industry. Sad commentary to the accuracy of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.238.14.34 (talk) 15:38, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Urmm, Neutralizer, it depends on the dregree of plagiarism. Here its quite an extremely long bit, so seems pretty clear cut that he copied it. I'd suggest "U.S.A. researchers say Putin's dissertation contains plagiarism" as a title, and other words ought to be strengthed. Nyarlathotep 14:20, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I take that back, I prefer the title "Putin dissertation plagiarizes from Pitt professors' book". Its more accurate.  It seems like cut & dried plagarism to me.  Nyarlathotep 15:48, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Doesn't the term require a degree of pretense or intent to deceive? My point is that I see no evidence that Putin tried to present the writing as his own anymore than we do here and some source contents indicate it's common in russia to hire ghost writers. Neutralizer 17:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Your using news/web standards not academic standards, as ought to be applied to a masters theses. Academic standards are meant to identify those porrtions of the work which are an "original contribution to human knowedge" from those which are another works contribution.  Its plagarism to copy or paraphrase other people without specifically citing the source, as the reader may think its your original work.  Nyarlathotep 19:03, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

If there was no intent to deceive or pretense; is it plagiarism?
I say no; maybe copyvio, but not plagiarism... am I wrong? Neutralizer 17:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Completely. In the world of academia, the very act of passing off work as your own is plagerism - no matter the source of that work. Lyellin 18:12, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, plagiarism is much more broad than copyright, plagarism is about failure to fully acknolage a source. Even complete rewrites can be flagrant plagiarism.   Infact, you could claim that all wikinews articles with more than two sources are plagiarism because they rarely identify which bits come from which sources, but news people aren't heald to the high standards of academia.  Nyarlathotep 18:48, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * S__t; then I have been completely out of line with this article. Once again, assumptions made an ass of me. I had no idea that simply non-acknowledgement was plagiarism. Thank you both for the education and my apologies for running with my assumption. Neutralizer 20:35, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

confusion :(
i see people have worked a lot on this article, so i'll have to leave it to others to fix these problems, but i have two problems following the logic: Boud 23:58, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * As quoted, Gaddy states that he believes that Putin had his thesis ghostwritten - he did not write it himself - but also states that he's convinced that Putin did read the textbook from which the text was plagiarised. If Putin wrote his thesis himself, then whether or not he read the textbook is an important argument for a plagiarism claim - if the words are not-exactly-but-nearly the same, then you could argue that it's coincidence (it depends on the actual text - i haven't seen either), but if it's known that Putin read the textbook, then the claim of plagiarism is more credible. But in this case, Gaddy seems to claim that Putin did not write the thesis himself. In which case, i don't quite follow the relevance of whether he read the textbook himself. Unless it's because he discussed with the ghostwriter what's a good textbook for background info? If this is the case, maybe another quote from Gaddy explaining this might make it less confusing.
 * It was in the Russian translation of the only English-language source cited that they discovered what they believe to be plagiarism. Ummm.... What is "the only English-language source"?
 * A source cited in "Putin's dissertation"? In that case, there's no plagiarism by Putin - it's by whoever are the authors of that source.
 * An English-language translation of "Putin's dissertation"? In that case, does that mean that the plagiarism claim is by people reading a Russian translation of an English translation of a Russian original text???
 * Hey, i think it probably means: It was in the Russian translation of the only English-language source cited that they discovered the original text that they believe to have been plagiarised. - in which case, better to correct this - the plagiarism is in the copy, not the original.


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Talk:Australia grants temporary asylum to 12 Commonwealth Games athletes

A bridging visa isn't asylum.... if their asylum applications are rejected they'll be deported in early April when the bridging visas run out. Have I misread the situation? I propose this name: Australia grants bridging visas to 12 Gates athletes. - Borofkin 22:52, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Granting a temporary visa is actually a form of asylum. Althought its tempororay. So, I'll go ya one more. Renamed to: "Australia grants temporary aslyum to 12 Commonwealth Games athletes"... --elliot_k 04:26, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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Hello... regarding the article 6-toed cat terrorizes town, please read the information on citing sources, and also the information on original reporting. - Borofkin 00:56, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

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US Federal Reserve raises interest rates - energy prices could affect inflation

March 29, 2006

The US Federal Reserve has raised the federal funds rate by 25 basis points (a quarter of a percent) to 4.75%. The Federal Open Market Committee said, "Economic growth has rebounded strongly in the current quarter but appears likely to moderate to a more sustainable pace." The commmittee also said that the recent rise in energy prices has had a small effect on inflation and increasing productivity has offset growing labor costs which has helped keep inflation modest. However, the rise indicates the advent for future wariness over the state of the economy, with huge budget deficits yet to ofset it seams unlikely that the rates will decrease in forthcoming years, The federal chairman Ben Bernanke appeared at the senate board in the pursuit to implicitly state the statusquo worries.


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Blair challenges New Zealand to fight against global warming

March 29, 2006 British Prime Minister Tony Blair sees New Zealand facing the challenge of playing a significant role in the fight against global warming. He mentioned in a video conference between Auckland and a conference hosted by Victoria University of Wellington that the country could be a important factor in performing that change. It could persuade others to adopt reasonable policies for sustainability, he told a conference in Te Papa.

Tony Blair, who visited New Zealand for 24 hours, said that the pressure must be kept on governments to address climate change whether or not they are signatories to the Kyoto Protocol. He encouraged ordinary people as well to take part in solving this great task: "One of the things you and other people can do is keep up the pressure... there are going to be some difficult decisions for government".


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Please hold off on publishing this article for at least 16 hours. I'm awaiting information that may be included in this article. Thanks... --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 05:18, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I revised this article, updating a lot of the wording and adding details and quotations (with sources). I don't do enough Wikinews editing to know if I should remove the editorial cleanup request, so I've left it in place. Still unpublished, I'll let MrMiscellanious handle that when he returns with the information mentioned above. -Eisnel 07:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Alright, it seems as if it didn't come soon enough. Time for publish.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 16:04, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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Australian House of Representatives acknowledges Cyclone Larry efforts

March 29, 2006 The Australian House of Representatives today acknowledged the impact of the recent devastating and the efforts of the support given to the residents and communities of north Queensland in order to restore normal life.

(Liberal, ) moved a motion expressing this after today, which included a description of the devastation wrought on the area, the response by the Australian Government and the, and thanked the efforts of people for their "willingness to roll up their sleeves and get on with the job of cleaning up and rebuilding their towns and centres."

The Leader of the Opposition,  supported the motion, and congratulated the move to put   in charge of operations, stating that soldiers "know how to work through logistics issues...how to work around officialdom or blockages", praised both local federal and state members of Parliament, and especially the Labor Queensland state premier,.

(Independent, ) was more critical in his speech. Katter thanked Beattie for his immediate response, but also described his confrontation with him and said how first responses were "simply not working", but also praised Beattie's decision on Cosgrove. Katter also described how the incident was "the worst natural disaster in Australian history" and how the banana industry in north Queensland was decimated. Katter went on to describe the financial problems of the people in the region, the "huge gap" between the cost of rebuilding and insurance payouts, also asking "Are we going to pay people virtually nothing to sit on their backsides to do nothing or are we going to pay them a decent wage and have them rebuilding our communities for us?"

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Jian Seng ghost ship affair brings criticism of Australian government

March 29, 2006

Criticism was targeted to Government efforts in the affair of the Jian Seng in the Australian Senate March 28 and 29 over the handling of the ghost ship, the tanker Jian Seng, which was found abandoned and unlit in the Gulf of Carpentaria.

Senator Joe Ludwig (Labor, Queensland) asked of the Minister for Justice and Customs Senator Chris Ellison in Question Time whether he stood by his claim that he made yesterday that the discovery of the Jian Seng demonstrated that the Australian Government had in place "aerial and maritime surveillance to intercept a vessel in these circumstances, and that was done", and asked why it took the Government two weeks to intercept the vessel after it entered Australian waters. Senator Ellison responded that at the vessel's first sighting on March 8 "it was not doing anything illegal", and criticised the Opposition's claim that the ship was drifting for seventeen days, saying that "it was not stated as having drifted for the whole of the 17 days". Ludwig went on to note that it was not Customs that spotted the ship but a "passing Australian barge", but Ellison had defended this, stating that Ludwig "thinks that commercial vessels have absolutely no role in looking out for Australia" and that Ellison will "rely on reports to our hotline and go out and inspect vessels".

Later, Senator Kerry O'Brien (Labor, Tasmania) criticised the Government's implementation of coastal defense, and highlighted the dangers of ignoring the ship for seventeen days, saying that "it posed and possibly still poses unknown environmental and quarantine risks" and that the Jian Seng "has been refused admission to Weipa harbour...It could have been carrying literally anything. It could have been carrying chemicals. It could have been carrying guns".

Senator David Johnston (Liberal, Western Australia) went on to debate that there are no shipping lanes in the area where the Jian Seng was found, and that devoting resources to a harmless ship would leave gaps in the coastal defenses elsewhere.


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Search for body fails on New Zealand's Raoul island

March 29, 2006

According to a statement by a police officer sent to Raoul Island in order to find the body of Mark Kearny, 33, who worked on researches on volcanoes on Raoul Island, Kearny was checking the temperature of the crater lake on March 17 when it erupted, blowing trees over, throwing boulders into the air, and burying the surrounding area in mud up to 5m deep. A team of specialists has been sent to the island, but it is likely that the immense heat has destroyed the body of Mr Kearny.


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Wikinews:Briefs/March 29, 2006

Audio Wikinews transcript, 2006-03-29 0630 UTC
I'm Phillip Hong. The time is 0630 UTC on Wednesday the 29th of March 2006, and this is Audio Wikinews: News Briefs.

Headlines
Bomb blast near Mosul, Iraq kills at least 40

''A bomb blast near the northern city of Mosul has killed at least 40 Iraqis. The bomber struck shortly after noon in front of a U.S. military base. The Defence Ministry says 30 people were injured in the blast, which was carried out by a suicide bomber. The U.S. military says a car bomb had exploded at an Iraqi police recruiting centre.''

Blair challenges New Zealand to fight against global warming

''The British Prime Minister Tony Blair sees New Zealand facing the challenge of playing a significant role in the fight against global warming. He mentioned in a video conference between Auckland and Wellington that the country could be a important factor in performing that change.''

Cyclone Glenda intensifies to category 5 storm

''Tropical Cyclone Glenda has intensified overnight. According to the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, Glenda was upgraded from a category three to a category five storm around 8 p.m. Australian Western Standard Time (noon UTC) Tuesday.'' ''The Bureau of Meteorology predicts Glenda will approach the coast later today. The bureau is also warning about the possibility of gale force winds along the Pilbara coast between Pardoo and Mardie. These winds are predicted to extend west to Exmouth tomorrow.''

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