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What about reaction of Britons of Pakistan origin and Muslims living in UK and Government of Pakistan?

this is not being human china should be ashamed of themselves for killing inorcent people like Akmal Sheik and other victims wheres the humanity? may ur soul rest in peace and wish u jannat brother ameen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.224.16 (talk) 14:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

 * What innocent people? The man smuggled 4 kg of heroin into the country, for God's sake! It's well-known that drug smuggling is punished by death in China, and in general, it's worth knowing the laws of country you're entering. 207.216.111.19 (talk) 22:27, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

 * The man was mentally ill. I have the advantage of being able to quickly discuss things with a lawyer, and he agreed that the man was innocent. His story - that he didn't know what was in the case and it was given to him by men who promised he would become a pop star - is in keeping with his state of mind. Drug smuggling is a crime which requires intent; if he did not intend to bring anything ilegal into the country then he did not commit an offence. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:28, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

 * There is no conclusive proof that the man was mentally ill. What the family of the accused says about him in order to secure leniency cannot be equated with expert medical opinions (of which there is none in this case). As for the need to prove mens rea/intent, it should be obvious that if the person caught with the drugs can escape conviction simply by saying "I didn't know the drugs were there", it would be impossible to enforce trafficking prohibitions. WhalersOnTheMoon (talk) 04:22, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

 * An expert opinion is largely a formality in this case. You also create a strawman fallacy there: I did not say the person need simply say that. A person would need to back it up, but the fact remains that it is an offense that requires intent and not one of negligence, which is what the OP was suggesting: You had the drugs, therefore etc. No expert would say on the record since they would need to see/test/whatever to prove it, but if you ask around privately there is little doubt about it. Remember the court refused to let a doctor near him or any attempt of an insanity defense, which kind of prevents a proper discussion in open court. They told the man to prove himself that he was in no fit state to be tried; by definition, he was in no fit state to do so. Whilst writing this I dug a little; it seems some law experts at least have openly put themselves on record. "Jerome A. Cohen, a professor emeritus at New York University School of Law and a specialist in Chinese law, wrote last week in the Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post that the Chinese courts had ignored their own laws in the case." So speaks The New York Times. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:48, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Again, in an ideal world, we would be able to tell whether a person intended to smuggle drugs or if he/she was duped/coerced into it, but we don't possess that capability, and to stop the movement of illicit substances across borders, authorities do take a "if we catch you with the stuff then you're punished" approach for practical reasons. Imagine what it would mean if all drug traffickers were given this "get out of jail/execution free card" simply by saying that they didn't know the drugs were there or how it got there. As for the professor's opinion, it really is no more authoritative than that of someone you find on the street, because he clearly makes the same jump to conclusion as many others have, namely that this man had a mental illness and was therefore eligible for the diminished capacity defense, which is not proven to be the case here. The Chinese Court refused mental examination because under the Chinese law, the Court has the discretion to refuse this in the absence of clear evidence supporting mental illness, which is exactly the case here. The man was never diagnosed with any mental illness, nor did his family have a history of it. Imagine this from the Court's point of view, that there's no record of this man's mental illness until he suddenly needed it to escape criminal liability, and the only "evidence" is that the man had ambitions of becoming a pop star: is it so unreasonable that the Judges would be sceptical of his claims? WhalersOnTheMoon (talk) 22:07, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Please stop saying that I asserted he only needed to make the claim and walk free. I never have and you claiming so is starting to really fuck me off. I did say that if a man could be demonstrated to have real reason to be in that position then he could not be convicted without more evidence than simple possession. There is enough evidence for an assessment; his speech was widely held to be rambling - so much so that judges laughed in his face - and medical records provided by the British embassy were unable to conclude anything - there was never any need to do so until his arrest - but did provide enough information that in the context of a trial an assesment was reasonable. Fair trials should look at pretty much anything that can even vaguely be claimed to support or inform either side, even if after doing so the evidence is then rejected as irrelevent or plain old bullshit. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:18, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

 * How exactly was the man "demonstrated to have real reason to be in that position," other than by his claim and those of his family? You never explicitly say that drug traffickers should be allowed to make a claim and walk free, yet that is precisely the implication of your argument, that as long as the drug trafficker says "I don't know where the drug came from" then intent cannot be established, and a simple claim is enough to disprove a vital element of the crime, effectively rendering the law unenforceable. And as for the claims of mental illness, you should realise that that's precisely what they are - claims. Rambling =/= mental illness; claims made by family members and political organisations opposed to the death penalty =/= evidence; inconclusive medical records = inconclusive medical records; most people seek mental health treatment and diagnosis prior to being sentenced to death. None of this does anything to rebut the presumption of sanity, something which is exercised in Western judiciaries. See M'Naghten Rules. WhalersOnTheMoon (talk) 23:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

 * You continuously repeat this one aspect of my argument without at all considering the context it came from, or that it is only one half of a whole position and does not substantiate my point of view on its own. You also conviniently leave out the 'could' from my more general comment to make it appear weaker than it is. "that is precisely the implication of your argument, that as long as the drug trafficker says "I don't know where the drug came from" then intent cannot be established, and a simple claim is enough to disprove a vital element of the crime, effectively rendering the law unenforceable." Um, I never said anything about a simple standalone claim. You added that yourself. That is my opening - it is not a crime of negligence - followed by why we might actually believe him where a 'normal' person would be almost pityable in thinking such an argument stood a chance. I also never said he has been "demonstrated to have real reason to be in that position," - how could anyone possibly demonstrate anything when the court refused to allow an expert to take a look and give evidence?

 * "most people seek mental health treatment and diagnosis prior to being sentenced to death." Um, he did. Claims with a lot of anecdotal evidence, inconclusive records and ramblings = evidence. We aren't trying to prove, for the purposes of counteracting your point that there was no reason for an assessment, that he was in fact ill; all I need do to rebut that is point to these three strong pieces of circumstancial evidence and state that those are enough for an assessment. You seem to be thinking I view these as a full and complete courtworthy defence, whereas their purpose in court would be to demonstrate that subject to medical opinion one may exist.

 * I anticipate a cry of 'why did he or his family never seek help before?' Well, to pre-empt that: He was British. Mental health care in the UK is appalling, and enough to put anybody off ever seeking help again regardless of wether they had escaped the clutches of the NHS; and even then I doubt the other nations he visited have the resources to try and tackle such problems effectively either, with the possible exception of Poland. Besides; he was happy(ish) and safe, so why mess him around? You don't expect someone to ask him to carry a suitcase full of heroin for him. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 00:00, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Also, to come back to an earlier point: " As for the professor's opinion, it really is no more authoritative than that of someone you find on the street, because he clearly makes the same jump to conclusion as many others have..." I thought you wanted expert opinions? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:36, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

 * China deserves no sympathy here; they killed a man. The death penalty is a barbaric hold-over from less-civilised times. In any western democracy the man would have been examined by a medical professional. Perhaps not one of the accused's choosing but, this is just proof that China sacrifices due process to be tough on crime. That is not a position worthy of any defence. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:24, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

China will pay.

 * This atrocity is a disgusting and outrageous Act of War, it is an offense against human dignity and an assault on the entire British people. The United Kingdom should seriously consider taking military action against China if something like this happens again. At the very least military targets in Beijing should be bombed. Letting such an egregious crime go unpunished sends a message that the British people are weak. We need to show the PRC - and the world - that this barbaric and disrespectful provocation will not stand. The Chinese regime shall pay the price for their crimes against humanity.
 * When did the Daily Mail start sending their readers to Wikinews? "Let's bomb the capital city of one of the world's superpowers." You bloody cretin, the British military would struggle to deliver a box of firecrackers to Beijing. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:28, 2 January 2010 (UTC)


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Comments:China to surpass Japan to become second largest economy

I hope so but will not expect.

When???
When, tomorrow? In twenty years?

When?
When? Tomorrow? In twenty years? This story's point is neutered by this missing piece of information. —M Eastman (talk) 06:42, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

the link to Harvard underneath the image is embarrassing
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Twenty dead after double suicide bombing in Iraq

December 30, 2009

Two suicide bombers in Ramadi, Iraq have killed 20 people, and injured several others.

According to police, the attack targeted the governor of the Anbar province of western Iraq. Iraqi police said that the attack commenced when a suicide car bomb detonated a car bomb near provincial governor Qassim Mohammed al-Fahdawi's office.

The second bomb exploded when the governor along with other officials arrived to inspect the spot of the first attack. This attack was carried out by a bomber on foot. The deputy police chief died in this incident, while the governor, as well as several others, were injured.

Also, an Iraqi judge and his wife were wounded by gunmen late Tuesday in the city of Kirkuk, northern Iraq.


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Icelandic government passes Icesave deal; €12,000 debt per citizen

December 31, 2009

The Icelandic Prime Minister Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir and her coalition government narrowly escaped a commitment to resign as a €3.8 billion bill to repay British and Dutch savers following the collapse of Icesave online banking passed. The vote margin was only three votes.

Only a matter of hours before the anticipated final vote, Wikileaks announced the disclosure of one of 23 documents suppressed by the Icelandic Minister of Finance: an apparent legal summary of meetings between Icelandic and EU representatives held in Brussels in November 2008. The leaked document discusses the then-assessed liabilities of Iceland at 60% of GDP, considerably higher than the reported 40% which repaying Icesave deposit holders entails.

Amongst the other details in the report is emphasis of the deep-seated anger of the Icelandic people at the situation around the financial collapse, particularly the UK's use of anti-terrorism legislation in its approach to the country's banks. Iceland's interpretation of the situation, and its financial treaty obligations with the EU, considered foreign deposits lost through force majeure. All 27 EU members disagreed with Iceland's interpretation and Peter Mandelson, although he resigned from the Barroso Commission in October, presented the legal position that Iceland could not pass legislation that did not ensure treaty-mandated minimum balance returns from failed Icelandic banks.

Leaked private communication from Ingibjörg Sólrún Gísladóttir, Iceland's then-foreign minister, compared the potential liabilities the country faced with the reparations imposed on Germany by the Treaty of Versailles in the wake of World War I.

Three banks failed in the financial crisis: Kaupthing, Glitnir, and Landsbanki. As the list of creditors emerged it was found that, among others, UK councils had around £900 million with the banks. Landsbanki agreed to repay the majority of funds held, giving council depositors priority status. Approximately £200 million on deposit with Glitnir is at-risk; the bank has stated the councils will be treated equally with all other creditors seeing them likely to only recover 30% of the amount Glitnir held.

Kaupthing faces other difficulties. The UK's Serious Fraud Office began an investigation earlier this month into the bank's UK activities. At issue are allegations savers were misled into selecting one particular account type, plus suspicious financial activity suggesting substantial amounts were moved out of the bank in the days prior to its collapse.

At present, UK councils have received little more than ten percent of their over £900 million deposits. They are among over 8,500 creditors claiming a staggering total of £20 billion. The largest single claimant is the British Depositors' and Investors' Guarantee Fund seeking €5 billion, and, of some note, Formula One racing team Williams claiming around £10 million in unpaid sponsorship from Glitnir who took on the liability from the Icelandic buyers of Hamleys.

Debt to 84% government-owned Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) by Glitnir stands at around £500 million; much of the actual debt written off in 2008 as RBS posted £24 billion losses. Further write-offs by the bank are expected to total less than £50 million.

Icelanders resented the discovery that fifteen senior ex-employees of Landsbanki claim €14 million between them, including a single claim of €2.7 million. Suspicion exists that the banks arranged substantial interest-free loans for various of their shareholders and executives.

Today's announcement of the Icelandic government's agreement to pay out €3.8 billion keeps their application for EU membership on-track, although each one of the country's 320,000 citizens effectively faces a €12,000 debt.


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Gary Megson sacked as manager of Bolton Wanderers F.C

December 30, 2009

Football manager Gary Megson has been sacked as manager of Bolton Wanderers Football Club. Megson, who joined the club in Oct. 2007 was relieved of all managerial duties effective immediately, according to a statement released by the club. His dismissal comes after fans called for him to be sacked after a 2-2 draw to Hull City F.C. Bolton are currently 18th in the Barclays Premier League and are in a high chance of relegation. Megson has previously saved the side from relegation twice.

Before managing Bolton, Megson had previously managed West Bromwich Albion and Nottingham Forest F.C. Fans reacted angrily at the appointment of Megson in 2007. He is the third Premier League manger to lose his job this season. Manchester City F.C manager Mark Hughes and Portsmouth’s Paul Hart were both sacked due to poor results.

Bolton Wanderers have released a statement through their website saying that "[a]ssistant Manager Chris Evans and first-team coach Steve Wigley will take charge of first team matters for the interim period".


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 * Quit putting publish on your article. I've tried - nicely - to tell you in the edit summary but you aren't paying the blindest bit of attention. Articles must go through WN:REVIEW. Unless that happens nobody will ever see your article and putting publish on it effectively hides it from developing areas. That means it goes stale and when its finally found its deleted. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:21, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

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That is very tragic. I give sympathy to all these unfortunate people. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 14:39, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


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UK hostage Peter Moore released in Iraq

December 30, 2009 Peter Moore, a British IT consultant and computer programmer who was taken hostage by Iraqi militants during a May 2007 militant raid on the finance ministry in Baghdad, has been released alive and in good health.

He is the only known survivor of a group of five hostages, consisting of himself, three bodyguards, and Alan McMenemy, a security guard from Glasgow. The bodyguards (Alec Maclachlan, Jason Swindlehurst, and Jason Creswell) were later shot and killed, and their bodies have been returned to Britain. McMenemy is believed to have met the same fate. The last time Moore was known to be alive was when a DVD showing him was handed to Iraqi authorities earlier this year.

The five men were captured by a group of approximately forty men disguised as Iraqi policemen in May 2007, who are believed to belong to the Islamic Shia Resistance, an obscure militant organisation also known as the Righteous League. Moore is now in the British Embassy in Baghdad, and is to be reunited with his family as soon as possible, according to Milliband.

United Kingdom foreign secretary David Milliband said that he was "absolutely delighted at his release" after two and a half years of "misery, fear and uncertainty". He claimed to be in a "remarkable frame of mind" after a "very moving" conversation with Moore. He also asked for the release of McMenemy's body. He said that no "substantive concessions" had been made by the British government, instead praising Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki for his government's process of reconciliation.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown issued a statement in which he said he was "hugely relieved by the wonderful news that Peter has been freed", calling for the British people to "remember the families of British hostages who have been killed in Iraq and elsewhere." He continued with a pledge that the government would "continue to do everything [it] can to bring British hostages back to their loved ones, including the remaining hostage of the group in Iraq, Alan McMenemy". He said, "I demand that the hostage takers return him to us."

Moore's father, Graeme, said he was "over the moon" about his son's release, saying, "We are so relieved and we just want to get him home, back now to his family and friends. I'm breaking down, I'm just so overjoyed for the lad. It's been such a long haul. I know that there have been one or two people working in the background to get Peter released. Peter is a very resilient lad and he always has been because of his background." He said the British Foreign Office had been "obstructive" with regards to his son's release.

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Interesting idea. While user-generated reviews are definitely a no-go due to the inherent POV problems, reporting on reviews made by established, reliable sources might be easier to handle. We'd have to be very careful, though, to have as many points of view covered as possible. But my main concern is, would film reviews pass our newsworthiness guidelines? I suppose so, if they were about a film that was released very recently, so it's possible to tie them in to current events. Tempodivalse [talk]  16:10, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I have similar concerns, but I stumbled across this and decided that it has potential. I think it would pass our newsworthiness criteria—we've written plenty of articles about film releases before, and these aren't much different. Obviously, no original reporting would be allowed, simply an aggregation of the ratings and textual information from other sources ("X said that the film was "quote", but Y disagreed, saying that it was "quote"). Some kind of graphical rating bar at the top would be useful (I'll make a template in a moment or two). Also, to differentiate these from normal news articles, we should probably put "Review:" at the start of their names. Den dodge  T\C 16:31, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Another idea would be possibly using mw:Extension:CommunityVoice to allow users to give their own ratings on the Comments: page. If it's on the comments page, there's no need to follow NPOV, and users can accompany their own views about the film with a star rating. It's used on the usability wiki, which means the Foundation consider it stable enough for use on their wikis. Den dodge  T\C 18:43, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Proposed template
I have created Film review to go on review articles. It can be seen to the right. If adopted, it should be accompanied by a list of the reviews used on the talk page. Den dodge  T\C 22:29, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

POV
Film reviews are so heavily POV, that there is no way to "unPOV" them. I'm sorry, but it is a matter of taste and opinion. You may love transformers, I may hate transformers, the next guy may think the CGI sucked, the next guy may think that if nothing else Megan Fox is super hot. We can "consolidate" real news because in the end, there are hard fact, even if they are skewed by one side of the other. The only "hard facts" there are in movies is the story line itself... and if you want a plot synopsis, goto Wikipedia. So, no matter what you do with this proposal, I'm gonna vote no. POV. POV. POV. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 22:38, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The idea is something similar to the "critical reception" sections of Wikipedia articles—we try to balance the reviews without giving undue weight. I don't think these should be listed along with other articles on the main page, though— they should either have their own (small) section near the bottom, or simply a link in the header to a page with a separate DPL. A nice notice at the top of the page saying "This is a review, not a news article, and—while every effort has been made to balance the opinions expressed in the sources we aggregate—we cannot guarantee that this article conforms to our neutral point of view policy" (or something similar) would also be a good idea (I'm wondering whether we can incorporate that into Film review) Den dodge  T\C 22:53, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Choosing the first Wikipedia Featured Article on a film alphabetically, 300 (film) is what I'm going for, but longer and more relevant date-wise. Many news websites have sections for reviews, and I feel that it is an area Wikinews should look into. Den dodge  T\C 22:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * NPOV is kinda iffy, I dunno, perhaps we'd be able to manage it somehow. But the main problem I see is that it might lead to encyclopedisation. We'd have to find a film that was released within the last week or so (to be able to tie it in to current events), come up with many independent reviews written since then, and add the film's plot and background details for context. By that time we've basically come up with a miniature duplicate of the Wikipedia article on the same film, with little to no added benefit. Also, Dendodge's suggested notice "This is a review, not a news article, and—while every effort has been made to balance the opinions expressed in the sources we aggregate—we cannot guarantee that this article conforms to our neutral point of view policy" (bolded emphasis mine) is a not a very good idea, IMHO. Neutral point of view should be non-negotiable, at least in the main namespace. Just my two pence. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  02:25, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, there are a number of issues to be ironed out if this is to be adopted, and I'm not sure if it's worth it, but I think it's possible if we're careful. Den dodge  T\C 15:41, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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Times Square shuts down due to suspicious vehicle

December 30, 2009 Times Square was shut down today due to a suspicious vehicle parked on 42nd Street and Broadway in New York. Police cordoned the area surrounding the white 1992 Dodge van to investigate the auto. The van has temporary license plates and tinted windows with tarps covering them. The nearby NASDAQ building was evacuated, and reports from CBS said the Conde Nast building had been partially evacuated.

The investigation disrupted preparations for the New Year's eve ball drop atop One Times Square, although it still appears that the celebration will continue unaffected.

The investigation comes a day after police commissioner Raymond Kelly was interviewed by local TV outlet, WNBC, about how the city is after recent terrorist activity. "Reality is that New York is the number one target in this country [...] But it has been doing more than any other city in America and probably the world," he said on the topic that New York had adequate counter-terrorism procedure. Wikinews contacted the New York City Police Department, but they had no comment about the specific issue at this time.


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Can we get some images up? Any original reporters or photographers in the NYC area? --JulesMattsson (talk) 17:18, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to get some press releases, when i can i will try to get some images. But I live downtown, it might take a little while. Cocoaguy (talk) 17:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay we might have a photog on route now, will update. --JulesMattsson (talk) 17:53, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm on a bus now, ETA 15min

 * To clarify, that was Cocoaguy, who has no tilde key. He's en route to the scene. --JulesMattsson (talk) 18:16, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Have pic's uploading now Cocoaguy (talk) 18:48, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * [[file:DSC02265.JPG|140px]] for now use DSC02265.JPG Cocoaguy (talk) 18:55, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * They're not linking?--JulesMattsson (talk) 18:56, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 'No file by this name exists' Not yet anyway, when they're online, put them into the article and/or join the IRC asap. --JulesMattsson (talk) 18:57, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I have to take the broke photo link out of this if I'm re-sighting. Please never add redlinks to published articles. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:05, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

 * Where's the photo? We'd see if local here or Commons - is it on enwp? --Brian McNeil / talk 19:15, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, the inet cafe i was useing had a bad connection, 160px Cocoaguy (talk) 19:25, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, is that definately 'the van'? Anything from the cops on scene we should know? --JulesMattsson (talk) 19:26, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The only thing the cops on the scene had to say was that there was no bomb. They also said that the van would be towed some time this afternoon. Cocoaguy (talk) 19:51, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Just to note, I had to delete one of the images uploaded to the article - it was taken from CBS news, taking images from competing news agencies is not allowed per WN:FU. Since we have a reporter on the scene though, we should get some other images. Tempodivalse [talk]  19:30, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I restored it because I was misinformed in IRC; tagged for speedy now. Always take out of articles and leads prior to deletion. I believed Flagged Revisions will not stop redlinks appearing in place of deleted images. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:40, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

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http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/File:Times_Sq_Closed_-_Ariel_Live_Webcam.jpg

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/File:Times_Sq_Closed_-_Police_Block.JPG http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/File:Times_Sq_Closed_-_The_Van.jpg

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 * Techie question; if we can track down free web cams that look over targets like Times Square what would it take to have a running cache of 1-2 hours data from each cam? Would this kill the toolserver? --Brian McNeil / talk 19:43, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Update?
Anyone want to update this article considering "NYPD: No Bomb Inside Abandoned Van with Tarp Covering Windows; Street Reopened" and "Times Square Security Scare Over" headlines from CBS (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/12/30/national/main6037921.shtml) and our on scene reporter's account from speaking to the cops. --JulesMattsson (talk) 20:16, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


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Canadian Parliament suspended until March

December 30, 2009 Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper has received approval from Governor General Michaelle Jean to prorogue the Canadian Parliament for about two months, up until the end of the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver, the Prime Minister's Office has announced today.

Under the prorogation, Parliament will resume on March 3, as opposed to January 25, when it was originally scheduled to return from the holiday break. The move to prorogue will strike any currently proposed legislation off the order paper, including the anti-crime bill that was proposed by the Conservatives as part of their election platform.

The move, which has drawn sharp criticism from the opposition, would allow the Conservatives to gain a majority in Senate committees, while also dodging criticism stemming from allegations of the abuse of Afghan detainees.

Parliament was prorogued once before in 2008, causing a coalition of the opposition Liberals, NDP and Bloc Québécois to collapse, and seeing then Liberal leader Stéphane Dion replaced with current leader Michael Ignatieff.


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Oldest duck in UK dies at age 22

December 30, 2009

A duck named Edwina, believed to be the oldest recorded living duck in the United Kingdom, has died at the age of 22.

The mallard was first discovered by Ian Knight and Christine Christopher in a lake near their residence in the market town of Ringwood in Hampshire, England. Edwina, as she was later called, had been attacked by her family and abandoned by her own mother. Ian helped the duck to recover its health and, after a failed attempt to release the creature back into the wild, the duck was adopted as a family pet. She was originally given the male name Edward; however, when — to the shock of Christopher and Knight - it was discovered that she had the ability to lay eggs, her name was changed to Edwina. Some of the habits of the duck included drinking tea and swimming in a sink.

The creature gained popularity upon her 22nd birthday when the British Trust for Ornithology rendered Edwina the oldest recorded mallard in the United Kingdom. The Trust said that the oldest recorded age for a creature of that type in the wild in the country was 20 years and 5 months.

Edwina died peacefully on Monday inside her pen. Ian Knight commented, "She hadn't been well over Christmas. Her legs were a bit wobbly and we were concerned that she wasn't her normal self. We had been planning to take her to the vet's when we discovered that she had passed away. It might sound silly to some people but 22 years is a long time to have a pet and we are heartbroken to have lost Edwina." Knight also explained that "[s]he had become a bit of a celebrity and, after we appeared on television on her 22nd birthday, someone recognised me at Palma Airport in Majorca."

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At the time of the posting of this article the Governor General has not approved the PM's request for prorogation although it is considered to be a matter of formality. 24.79.99.250 (talk) 20:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)Chris Burnett

I smell a PART - uhh, promotion of Canadian interests in the Caribbean. Who doesn't like a four month, all expenses paid vacation while simultaneously dodging actual governance? That doesn't even have to be sarcastic; it's pretty sweet. Well, for government employees, anyway. They're excellently suited to doing fairly little and not getting bored. —70.31.58.145 (talk) 03:12, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Harper is unethical
It is absolutely outrageous that Stephen Harper abuses his power as Prime Minister! Time and time again he has shown himself to be an unscruplous, conniving, petty politician!

But, he is a politician you may point out. Yet, what makes it so maddening is the fact that he started out wanting to reform the political process, that he elicited much hope in that regard in the hearts of people like myself, and finally that he is an evangelical Christian.

Sadly, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Evangelical Christians should feel embarrased that one of their own professes Christ as Lord in church yet doesn't model his behaviour in the workplace. Sure, he is a staunch supporter of Israel and an opponent of gay marriage, but I hope, they will have the moral courage to condemn him when he is unethical and behaves inappropriately, just as they surely praise him when he is "moral" and shares their political and social views. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.23.124 (talk) 07:27, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


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'Dr Death' Steve Williams, American professional wrestler, dies aged 49

December 31, 2009

American  has died aged 49. The retired wrestler died of cancer. Williams was suffering from throat cancer and underwent surgery in 2004.

Williams, who originally trained up as an fighter started his career in 1979. He performed in several different promotions including, and. He held the with  in WCW.

For a short period he wrestled in, WWE's development facility. During his time there he worked with current superstar.

Williams officially retired this year. He choose to retire after the death of fellow wrestler and friend. He wrestled his last match in Japan on October 25, 2009.


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5.8 magnitude earthquake rocks San Diego and northern Mexico

December 31, 2009 At 10:49 PST (18:49 UTC) yesterday the United States Geological Survey reported that a 5.8 magnitude earthquake was felt in {{w|San Diego, California|San Diego]] and southern California down to {{w|Tijuana|Tijuana}}, Mexico. There was also a 4.8 magnitude aftershock recorded at 10:53 PST. The epicenter of the quake is believed to be near the Mexican city of {{w|Mexicali|Mexicali}}.

The Southern California area had been experiencing lesser magnitude earthquakes for the past week, ranging in magnitude from 2 to 3. The earthquake occurred about 4.3 miles into the earths crust, which is considered shallow. Shallow earthquakes often cause more damage than deeper ones.

No major damage has been reported at this time, and the {{w|California Highway Patrol|California Highway Patrol}} has not reported any major disruptions on local roads. Minor damage to the Imperial County Administration Building in {{w|El Centro, California|El Centro}}, California has been reported. The San Diego City Hall building shook for about 30 seconds after the quake, according to the XETV. In Mexicali, buildings were evacuated, and some traffic lights are not working, said Mexicali journalist Sergio Haro.

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Talk:Oldest duck in UK dies at age 22

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Afghanistan suicide bomb leaves seven Americans dead

December 31, 2009

A suicide bomber attacked an American base in the Khowst region on the Pakistani border of Afghanistan, leaving seven American CIA officers dead and six injured. No American or NATO military personnel were killed or injured in the attack on Forward Operating Base Chapman.

It appears that the suicide bomber, reportedly wearing an Afghan National Army uniform, blew himself up in either the gym or the dining facility of Base Chapman.

In a statement on the Voice of Jihad web page, the Taliban claimed responsiblity for the attack, alleging 20 "CIA employees" were killed in the incident.

The Chapman Base is a converted military base which is now being used for civilian reconstruction operations, although military personnel are still located on the base. Camp Salerno, the main base in the Khowst province, has been the target of many attacks in recent weeks.

Recent attacks have been focused on foreign civilians, such as an incident in October in which 7 foreign and 3 Afghan civilians were killed in an attack at a UN guest house. The CIA has not lost this many operatives in nearly 25 years and the last time CIA agents were killed was in 2003.


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Afghan attack kills five Canadians

December 31, 2009

The blast of an improvised explosive device (IED) in Kandahar, Afghanistan killed four Canadian soldiers and one journalist, while also injuring a civilian and four other soldiers.

The group was travelling as part of a provincial reconstruction team when the attack, which took place at 4PM local time, when the armoured vehicle they were travelling in struck the IED approximately 1,500 metres from the Dand district centre, which Canadians had helped rebuild after a suicide attack in April. This attack comes on the same day as an attack that killed eight US civilians and one week after the death of Lieutenant Andrew Nuttall. The Taliban has claimed responsibility for the attack.

Brigadier General Daniel Ménard has stated Dand continues to be a "safe area" and stated confidence the attack was an isolated incident.

Those injured in the attack were moved to the field hospital at Kandahar Airfield and are expected to survive. No further details on the injured, including their names and conditions are expected to be released.

The deceased soldiers were identified as Sergeant George Miok, Sergeant Kirk Taylor, Corporal Zackery McCormack and Private Garrett Chidley. The journalist was identified as Michelle Lang, 34, of Calgary, a reporter with the Calgary Herald, on secondment to the Canwest News Service for a six week tour with the Canadian Forces in Kandahar. The US Ambassador to Canada, as well as Governor General Michaelle Jean have issued statements expressing condolences for those lost in the incident.

To date, 138 soldiers and four civilians have died in the war-torn country. Lang is the first Canadian journalist to die in the conflict, with seven journalists from other countries also having died.

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Talk:Icelandic government passes Icesave deal; €12,000 debt per citizen

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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

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Shooting in Finnish mall leaves four dead

December 31, 2009

A lone gunman dressed in black opened fire in a Finnish shopping mall in the city of Espoo, near the capital Helsinki. Four people have been confirmed dead following the incident, and others have been injured. Police have now stated that the gunman and his girlfriend have also been found dead; it is believed he committed suicide.

According to the state broadcaster, YLE, three women and one man were among the dead. Several ambulances and police officers arrived at the mall.

Kari Harjula, an eyewitness, told YLE, "I started to hear a lot of shouting from the outer doors of Citymarket and Sello, telling everybody to get out. The customers and employees were wondering what was going on. Soon some police ran in with riot shields and serious expressions on their faces. They yelled at everybody to get out; that the shopping centre was being evacuated. The situation was chaotic; there were a lot of police inside and outside. From a layman's point of view, it looked like a massive operation."

Finland has one of the largest private firearms ownership and has seen several attacks in the recent past. In September 2008, a gunman killed nine students as well as a teacher before committing suicide, while in November 2007, another student killed eight, and ultimately shot himself dead.


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Vyk (talk) 11:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Lobo. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Lobo~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:20, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:33, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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User talk:Qawalover

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Tempodivalse [talk]  15:00, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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Tempodivalse [talk]  15:00, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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Talk:Shooting in Finnish mall leaves four dead

Yahoo! News article on Finland mall shooting said Police killed the man or he commited Suicide and "5" ""five""e killed update
5 dead not FOUR. OMFG get it right WikiNews update your articles sometimes, and OMFG is a acronym swear. so its all gd.

72.73.95.21 (talk) 17:18, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Take the potty mouth elsewhere. If you want to rant about an inaccuracy then provide a source to back it up. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:22, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Brian u calling me a Toliet Mouth how dare u insult my intelligence i don't have a source to back up anything... just trust me Okaiae? :) --72.73.95.21 (talk) 17:36, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I said "Potty"; a potty is a type of toilet used with infants who are not yet able to use a more conventional toilet. Trust you? No thanks; you were wrong. Four were killed at the mall. The source I have added and slight update made to the Wikinews article reflects reality instead of Chinese-whispers errors; the gunnman left the mall and was found dead - with his girlfriend dead there too. No source stated whether he shot her; he did not shoot her at the mall; there is the possibility she permitted him to shoot her. The headline of the article remains accurate and credible. If you wish to "shout out" random junk that you've not read carefully, or a story from a friend of a friend - use twitter or a blog. Do not change salient details in published articles without a source to back them up. It took me less than ten minutes to find an accurate source, read it carefully, and add the detail to the Wikinews story. Nobody will go to that effort if you resort to childish terms such as "OMFG" and actually consider "OMFG is a acronym swear" anything resembling the actual rules of English grammar. Now, what was that about intelligence? --Brian McNeil / talk 18:04, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


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Brian McNeil / talk 17:25, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Should help
The above will give you the links you need. If a story has an inaccuracy and it is not several days old, you can add a source to back up changes you make. A change to a reported death toll that does not match the reviewed sources, is not substantiated with a credible new source, and accompanies with a "sensational" or alarmist edit summary and comment on the talk page will not result in anyone actually looking to verify your assertions. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:28, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

 * Taking, your Quote out of context to show u what u actually just said to me in lamen terms.... will not result in anyone actually looking to verify your assertions. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:28, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

BM hey man listen will not result in anyone actually looking to verify your asserttions??? thats what u think??? u have your opnionsss. Anyway, User name? tell me would it be good if I got one? U were so busy answering other questions about stale news to me u need to tell me DO I NEED TO SIGN UP FOR AN ACCOUNT-USER NAME???? Caps lock was on, not realli but This is Urgent!!!! --72.73.95.21 (talk) 17:32, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Ongoing undeletion discussion
Hi. I'm sorry to see that you've been censored a little bit too much by the admins. This might be of interest to you. Benny the mascot (talk) 23:53, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

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Rest in Peace, Mr. Steve Williams. :( --72.73.95.21 (talk) 17:44, 31 December 2009 (UTC)


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User talk:10nitro

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User talk:Brad4peace2

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User talk:Cvrolijk

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At least eighteen dead after storms in Brazil

January 1, 2010 According to reports, at least eighteen people were killed in Brazil in the past 24 hours, following heavy storms that led to mudslides and torrential rains.

Most of the deaths occurred in the Rio de Janeiro area of the country, and the local Office of Civil Defense commented that more deaths are likely as the inclement weather continues. The deaths were caused mainly because some shanty-houses collapsed under rain or mud.

In Baixada Fluminese, an area north of downtown Rio de Janeiro, about two hundred people fled their homes when three nearby rivers overflooded their banks. The storm is expected to continue through much of today, according to meteorologists.


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User talk:UmaFil

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Comments:Shooting in Finnish mall leaves four dead

The article conveniently omits the fact that the perpetrator was a Kosovo Albanian immigrant, Ibrahim Shukpoli. Ah, the irony - a wonderful New Year present for Mr Ahtisaari and all people of Finland, specifically for their great personal contributions to creating a radical Islamic terrorist and criminal haven free independent Kosovar state!

I don't think a person going crazy as a lot to do with Kosovo indipendence. Moreover Shukpoli started shooting after discovering his former girlfriend had a lover so i really don't see where terrorism is. And Kosovo as always been a criminal haven even when it was still under Serbia. The serbian people will always face problems unless they can free their minds from the propaganda of their darker years, specifically that all albanians and bosnians are terrorists and islamic integralists just because they are muslims. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.14.209.47 (talk) 22:35, 1 January 2010 (UTC)


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User talk:Rusty23

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Comments:Fireworks found on US domestic flight

So someone did something stupid and we need to tie in the recent Nigerian's attempt? Sensationalizing this with that tie-in is wholly unwarranted.

 * It's background. Why do we care about people doing something stupid like this? Well, because the entire air industry is paranoid as all hell right now. Why? Well, this Nigerian man... Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:57, 31 December 2009 (UTC)