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Microsoft claims 235 patent breaches by open source software

May 15, 2007

Software giant Microsoft's chief lawyer Brad Smith claimed in an interview published in the magazine Fortune on Monday that open-source software products violate 235 of Microsoft's patents. The main transgressors are claimed to be Linux (107 patents) and OpenOffice.org (45), with e-mail programs infringing 15 patents. Microsoft wants royalties to compensate for the patent breaches.

According to Microsoft's Vice-President of intellectual property and licensing, Horacio Gutierrez, the company wants to negotiate with the open-source companies rather than sue them. "If we wanted to litigate we would have done that a long time ago. Litigation is not an effective way of going about solutions," Gutierrez said. According to him, Microsoft has over the last years tried to work towards a "constructive" solution to the alleged problem of patent violation.

Microsoft in the past has used the strategy of cross-licensing to get royalties from companies who infringe their patents, for example in their deal with Novell. On a company blog, Novell reiterated that their deal "is in no way an acknowledgment that Linux infringes upon any Microsoft intellectual property."

"We don't think that customers will want to continue on without a solution to the problem," Gutierrez said about Microsoft's approach to guaranteeing companies that they won't get sued because they use the allegedly patent-infringing Linux operating system.

The upcoming third version of the GPL licence, the licence under which Linux is released, will prohibit Linux distributors to agree to patent royalty deals. Microsoft called these "attempts to tear down the bridge between proprietary and open-source software that Microsoft has worked to build with the industry and customers."

A related U.S. Supreme Court ruling from April 30th showed how software patents can be subject to court challenges; basically, if the innovations patented are "obvious", the patent is weakened. Joe Lindsay, information officer for a mortgage company, pointed out that the Unix code that Linux is based upon preceded Microsoft Windows, which might also be a reason for some patents to be invalid.

Red Hat, the biggest Linux distributor, said in a statement on Monday: The reality is that the community development approach of free and open source code represents a healthy development paradigm, which, when viewed from the perspective of pending lawsuits related to intellectual property, is at least as safe as proprietary software.

Larry Augustin, former CEO of a company called VA Linux (now VA Software), responsible among other things for launching SourceForge.net, an open-source software development community, posted a message on his blog under the title "It's Time for Microsoft to Put Up or Shut Up": If Microsoft believes that Free and Open Source Software violates any of their patents, let them put those patents forward now, in the light of day, where we can all evaluate them on their merits. If not, then stop trying to bully customers into paying royalties to use Open Source.

According to the Fortune report, more than half of the Fortune 500 companies are estimated to use Linux in their data centers.


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Stupid sources
I got partway through reading the L.A. Times source and just about destroyed a keyboard when they said "General Public License". I'm now off to spit at them instead of my keyboard. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:45, 15 May 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Media speculate over possible presidential bid by Michael Bloomberg

Running for President
Just because he's not running doesn't mean he's not considering how much to spend or how he would run such a campaign. Besides that all candidates say they aren't running and suprise!! They're running. I never say he's running I'm just saying he getting prepared.

Bloomberg's own comments, hardly a day old, about his candidature shld be reported and be reflected in the headline. see WN:SG on how to present people's predictions about future events - they shld be clearly states as predictions and attributed to those who make them. they shld not be reported as facts or as if Wikinews is making/agreeing with the predictions. –Doldrums(talk) 16:13, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

reply to User_talk:Doldrums : title can be along the lines of New York mayor Bloomberg may run for President, friends say, Speculation over possible Presidential run by New York mayor. his denial shld be in the lead paragraph. –Doldrums(talk) 16:28, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Speculations also appeared in French Canadian press: Le maire de New York briguera-t-il la Maison-Blanche? (May 15, Richard Hétu, for La Presse of Montreal: M. Hétu probably reads The Washington Times or hears the same rumours used by TWT...) Hégésippe | ±Θ± 22:25, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

newsworthy?
Once Bloomberg says he's running this will be newsworthy. His advisors' comments may be interesting, but its irresponsible to publish this as news. Only once he actually delcares his candidacy should there be a story. –Demiquave 20:13, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Speculation IS newsworthy for the profit news organisations. It ISN'T on Wikinews. This article is not newsworthy unless it is official. Speculation is not news, it's personal POV. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  22:03, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yet somehow it was deemed ok for this article, Israeli website reports speculation over U.S. attack on Iran in April. Sorry, I couldn't resist. --SVTCobra 22:09, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * But that is a good quality speculation article :P — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  22:11, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Especially good because the report mentioned in the title never made it into the sources, because no one could find it. --SVTCobra 22:25, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes it did. Reread the sources...Debka File source. DragonFire1024 13:19, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It is very newsworthy because he would be a very significant candidate both for the amount of money he can bring into his own campaign and because he would be a third party candidate. The sources are Time and Washington Times, if it's good enough for them but not Wikinews then there is something wrong with Wikinews.
 * P.S I have seen much more irrelevant news then this on Wikinews The 13th 4postle 23:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

This is most certinly newsworthy. I think the author presented it well and I have no problems with this. CNN, Fox News everyone else would publish this. Wikinews should too. We need to get gutsy so we can gain respect. Momodamonkey 00:09, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I tend toward this as newsworthy. But I am not an authority. Also, the article is fairly poorly written with bad grammar and would need a clean-up for that reason alone. --SVTCobra 00:25, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * We have published speculation before; there is no difference between us and commercial media as to what news should be covered or not: if it's being reported, it's news.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * what is important is to report it as speculation, attribute it and also report other possibilities being reported/speculated. –Doldrums(talk) 13:16, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Publish
The title has been fixed. Grammar and the overall smoothness of the article looks good to me. I would like to see the article published. The 13th 4postle 01:14, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

 * I will have to respectfully disagree. This is one of the many non-sensical sentences in the article, as I write this: "In the article the Washington Timesalso talked about the previous 500 million dollars Bloomberg was at first ready to consider which TIME magazine also reported." --SVTCobra 01:19, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

 * I made it more clear even though it was grammatically correct already.
 * P.S Why don't you just fix it if you think something is wrong with it. There is an edit button you can use. With all the writing you've done on this discussion page you could have fixed the article and more.  The 13th 4postle 01:30, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

 * For one, what previous 500 million? Using previous necessarily refers back to something, which in this case is never mentioned. But forget it. I am tired. But here's another: "One of the major concerns for a third party candidate is getting enough petitions to run in some states and the enormous funds at Bloomberg's disposal would get rid of that problem as well as many others that face third party candidates." This is a huge run-on sentence with no punctuation. And why do "enormous fund" get rid of things like petitions to run in certain states? Can you just pay election officials to look the other way? I don't understand. But do what you want. As I said, I am tired, so I am going to bed. Oh, I can't fix the article myself, because I don't want to read the sources. --SVTCobra 01:52, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


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The Taj Mahal turning yellow due to pollution

May 15, 2007 The Taj Mahal, one of India's most famed monuments, has been gradually yellowing due to air pollution, authorities say.

Plans are afoot to give the white marble structure a mud bath - the mud will absorb the dirt already accumulated as it dries and is then washed off. The cost has been assessed at US$230,000, and will need to be repeated every two to three years.

Roughly 3,000,000 tourists visit the monument every year, and visitors are required to park 2 miles away from the monument in an effort to reduce pollution around the area.


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Pakistan: Explosion rocks provincial town

May 15, 2007

A bomb blast at a popular hotel in the frontier town of Peshawar in Pakistan has killed an estimated 24 people and injuriing dozens more.

Police say the blast happened at lunchtime, when the hotel was crowded with diners. They said two women and a five-year-old boy were among the victims.

Inspector General of Police, Mr Sharif Virk and other senior police and government officials have told the BBC that they believe the attack was carried out by a suicide bomber. Police say that a severed leg, possibly that of the alleged bomber, was found at the scene of the blast with a note in Pashto tied to it warning "American spies" of a similar fate.

The blasts come just days after violent riots in the city of Karachi between opposition parties and the government, as well as a successful U.S target strike against senior Taliban leader Mullah Dadullah in neighbouring Afghanistan.

Peshawar has been host to a large concentration of Afghan refugees ever since the Russian occupation of Afghanistan in 1979.

The blasts have been condemned by the President of Pakistan, General Pervez Musharraf. He directed the provincial government to thoroughly investigate the incident and take strict action against the perpetrators.


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Televangelist Jerry Falwell dies at age 73

May 15, 2007

Jerry Falwell was found unresponsive by Ron Godwin, Liberty University's executive vice president, around 10:45 am ET. He was taken to Lynchburg General Hospital where "CPR efforts were unsuccessful". As of 2:10 pm ET, during a live press conference, a doctor for the hospital confirmed that Falwell had died of "cardiac arrhythmia, or sudden cardiac death". Godwin had eaten breakfast with Falwell earlier and stated that he seemed "fine, business as usual."

Falwell, a controversial minister, suffered from two health conditions in 2005, and had a history of heart illness. Falwell was a leader of the Christian right and was perhaps most well-known for his controversial claims against "liberals", homosexuals, and Muslims.


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There is another article like this: Televangelist Jerry Falwell dies at 73  Vagish  [wp]  [wn] 18:56, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Have deleted the other one - this is better. --Mark Talk 18:59, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Obituary?
Much like the Reports: Taliban leader Mullah Dadullah killed in Afghanistan story, I don't think this qualifies as an obituary. An obituary usually gives a much fuller account of the life and times of the deceased. --SVTCobra 00:03, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think we need a category for deaths in general, and this is the suitable one, although the title isn't perfect.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:03, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * A dead person is a dead person. Obituaries are about a person dying, informational or not...IMO.DragonFire1024 12:06, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Mabie we should create Category:Deaths for articles that arn't obituaries as quoted above? Or we could just forget about it... — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  00:43, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I am leaning toward "fuggitaboutit". Our Category:Obituaries is littered with items that I personally wouldn't call obituraries. But, whatever. --SVTCobra 01:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Jerry Falwell - dead or killed?
The current byline for the Jerry Falwell story reads a little oddly - it gives the impression that he died because he was found unresponsive by Ron Godwin. "Found unresponsive" has a lot of different possible meanings - when I first read it, I thought maybe Ron had murdered him because he failed to respond to an email or something(!)202.20.20.129 06:19, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Requested edit
The article is in Category:Creationism. While Falwell was a creationist (he had YEC sympathies, and may have even been a YEC), it was not an important part of his preaching and ministry. The article on him in Wikipedia does not mention creationism, nor does this obituary. It therefore seems unhelpful to put the article in the creationism category. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ 00:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
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McGuinty wins re-election in 2007 Ontario General Election

October 11, 2007

The official results of the 2007 Ontario General Election now show that the Ontario Liberal Party has been re-elected. The Liberal Party lead by Dalton McGuinty will spend the next four years in a majority government.

McGuinty is the first Liberal premier to have back-to-back majorities since Mitchell Hepburn, who held office from 1934-1942, with his second majority starting in 1937. Hepburn's government legacy includes the Queen Elizabeth Way and Rainbow Bridge to Niagara Falls, New York.

McGuinty wins, Tory doesn't get seat
McGuinty was re-elected in his riding of Ottawa South.

In his speech, McGuinty told supporters "For this great privilege I am profoundly grateful." He continued by stating that the party "deplore[s] negativity," and that no one should "mistake our civility as a weakness."

Progressive Conservative (PC) leader John Tory was defeated by Liberal candidate Kathleen Wynne in the riding of Don Valley West. He previously held a seat in his former riding of Dufferin—Peel—Wellington—Grey. A leadership election will be held if Tory resigns his position, a move he has so far avoided.

Asking hypothetically "Is [Tory] a little too progressive for the Conservatives?", Liberal Gerard Kennedy on CTV echoed the thoughts of many media outlets, who feel the faith-based school funding was the key blow to Tory's campaign. Tory called McGuinty to concede at 10:30 p.m. McGuinty was first to make a televised speech, despite the general practice of winners speaking last.

New Democratic (NDP) leader Howard Hampton was re-elected in his riding of Kenora—Rainy River.

Green Party leader Frank de Jong ran in Burlington earlier this year in a by-election, but lost to a PC strong-hold candidate. He ran again in the riding of Davenport, but lost to Liberal Mario Silva.

As of 23:40 EDT with 57.6% of the polls reporting:

Results trickled in for most of the early evening, due to the clog of visitors to its public website. At 9:49 p.m. ET last night, CTV told viewers that they were only receiving result updates every ten seconds at top speed, compared to a test run of ten results per second. They speculated at the time that the computers' new software was to blame. The media outlets were still calling victories early in the evening, with one station unironically declaring a candidate with seven votes (compared to two others with three apiece) as "well up in front".

Former PC Premier Ernie Eves, NDP MP Olivia Chow, and former Liberal education minister Gerard Kennedy appeared as commentators throughout the evening. Former Ontario Liberal MPP Alvin Curling, who was the first Black speaker of the Ontario Legislature, and former Deputy Prime Minister Sheila Copps were among those on Citytv Toronto. Global's panelists included Warren Kinsella, Jane Pitfield and Marilyn Churley, while CHCH News hosted Liberal MP Garth Turner.

First Nations representative Regional Chief Angus Toulouse congratulated McGuinty on his re-election, suggesting this would allow the chance to build on an existing relationship, rather than start anew. "There is a lot of work to do in follow up to the important recommendations outlined in the Final Report of the Ipperwash Inquiry. This work must be done jointly and in a collaborative manner and I am encouraged by the fact that the Premier, and the Government, have committed to address this in partnership with First Nations."

Wikinews has a full selection of in-depth interviews with 53 candidates; see Ontario Votes 2007. You may view other articles about Canada and Ontario at Wikinews' Canada Portal.''

Referendum on electoral reform
The election included a referendum on electoral reform, asking voters whether to replace the existing plurality voting system with a Mixed Member Proportional (MMP) voting system. MMP lost as the existing system was favoured by a margin of 63.0%, based on unofficial referendum results as at 23:40 EDT.

Throughout the night, many outlets stated the opinion that the referendum was poorly promoted. Even Toronto's Mayor David Miller, appearing on TVO at 9:56 p.m., called the proposed process "MPMP". Some outlets, like the Owen Sound Sun Times called the referendum process "set up to fail".

While only 50% of eligible voters cast a ballot in the general election, 54% cast a referendum ballot.

The Canadian Federation of Students-Ontario chairperson Jen Hassum commented that the "projected defeat of Mixed Member Proportional reinforces a massive generational divide in Ontario. Recent polling showed that 67 per cent of voters under the age of 35 supported the new voting system."


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Comments:Microsoft claims some open source software breaches its patents

OMFG!!
OH MY FUCKING GOD! this makes me so angry i can hardly type straight. first of all, microsoft is just the company to talk about patent infringements (*cough* macintosh *cough*) and fifthly (i don't have time for 2 thru 4) WHERE R TEH FCKING PATENTS?? HUH? HUH BILL? WHERE? maybe the reason that they're not suing is that they're FULL OF BULLSHIT, and they know that they will have their ASSES handed to them if they tried. there, i gtg. 134.39.24.58 01:52, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


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Thomson Corporation and Reuters agree to merge

May 16, 2007

The Thomson Corporation and Reuters Group PLC announced Tuesday that they have agreed to combine the two companies. The boards of both Thomson and Reuters will recommend the merger to their shareholders.

The Canadian Thomson-family holding company Woodbridge, which controls 70% of Thomson, has agreed to vote in favour of the deal and the Reuters Founders Share Company, which controls a special share in Reuters, will also support the merger.

Based on the TSX CA$46.36 closing share price of Thomson on May 14, 2007, each Reuters share would be valued at 691 pence and, therefore, the full capital of Reuters valued at approximately £8.7 billion. Cash requirements for the deal are to be provided by Thomson. Woodbridge will own approximately 53 percent of the combined company, other Thomson shareholders 23 percent and Reuters shareholders about 24 percent.

The merger arrangement will leave two separate companies that will be operated as a single entity. The boards of the two companies will be identical as will the senior executive management team. Thomson will be renamed to Thomson-Reuters Corporation, and will be listed on both the TSX and the NYSE. Thomson-Reuters PLC will list on the London Stock Exchange and the NYSE.

Reuters current CEO, Tom Glocer, will become CEO of the combined company while Thomson President and CEO Richard J. Harrington will retire at the completion of the merger.

Thomson has currently 32,000 employees worldwide, with operations in 37 countries and revenues of US$6.6 billion in 2006. Thomson's major business operations centre around financial information and legal services, with smaller ventures in tax accounting, health care, and the scientific field. Thomson is headquartered in Stamford, Connecticut, in the United States.

Reuters is one of the world's largest news agencies, with a total of 16,800 staff in all divisions, but derives more than 90 percent of its revenue from its financial service business. It is the merger of Thomson and Reuter's financial services divisions that may have been the genesis of the talks. It has been suggested that both companies wanted a better economy of scale to compete with Bloomberg, the American financial services giant.

"We are enormously proud of the evolution of The Thomson Corporation and the value it has created for all our shareholders," said David Thomson, Chairman of Thomson. "We recognize the rich history of Reuters and are committed to uphold the Reuters Trust Principles."

The chairman of Reuters, Niall FitzGerald, expressed his satisfaction with the merger. "The shared expertise and complementary strengths of these two companies makes for a strategically compelling and financially attractive combination," said FitzGerald in a joint press release. "I am especially proud that Reuters journalism will continue to be governed by the powerful Reuter Trust Principles of independence, integrity and freedom from bias."

The new company is projecting efficiencies of greater than US$500 million per year, by the end of the third year after closing the deal.

Criticisms were raised by Reuters journalists, who voiced concerns in an open letter to the Reuters Founders Share Company. They worried whether or not "a reconstituted Reuters would maintain the high standards of journalism and the integrity, independence and freedom from bias that have shaped the company's 156-year-old reputation."

It is expected that the merger will draw the attention of regulators due to the size and nature of the transaction. "Antitrust authorities in Europe and the U.S. are almost certain to apply a more detailed and lengthy review of the acquisition than is typical, because of the limited number of companies that supply prices, data, news and financial tools," said Simon Baker, analyst, Credit Suisse in London.


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New York couple keeps Indonesian women as slaves

May 16, 2007

In, New York, a millionaire couple has been arrested after keeping two Indonesian women as slaves for at least five years.

According to federal prosecutors, the two women were beaten and tortured by Nassau County couple Varsha Mahender Sabhnani, 35, and her husband Mahender Murlidhar Sabhnani, 51, and were kept from leaving the house unless it was to take out the. Both women are legal immigrants who migrated to the United States back in 2002. Since receiving the jobs, both women had their passports taken away from them by the Sabhnanis.

"No one would ever think that human beings were being brought into the United States and held for slave labor, and beaten, and tortured in a beautiful mansion right here in one of the most exclusive neighbourhoods on Long Island," said Demetri Jones, a prosecutor in the case.

Authorities say that the women had scalding hot water poured on them, were forced to take as many as 30 showers in a three hour period, were made to run up and down flights of stairs, and one of the women was forced to eat "25 extremely hot chilli peppers." All the "punishments" were in response to not completing work properly. The women also said that they had to hide food from "their captors" because the Sabhnani's did not feed them enough.

Police were alerted to the situation when they found one of the women walking around the city wearing only a towel and a pair of pants.

Both women were promised by the couple to receive at least USD$100 to USD$200 for their work, but according to prosecutors, the couple paid only USD$100 a month, which was sent to one of the women's daughters who lives in Indonesia.

The women are only identified as Samirah and Nona.

The couple will face charges of keeping people against their will. They are reported to be running a perfume business from their Long Island home.


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This is a compatible license and the fair use is as is. The image cannot be found anywhere else. DragonFire1024 07:25, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * please read talk pages. DragonFire1024 07:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * This image is compatible with crown copyright on Wikinews. Please read what you are doing and comment on talk pages. DragonFire1024 07:37, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That might be the case. But there is no fair use rationale provided as required by Foundation policy. --+Deprifry+ 07:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And what would need to be added for Fiar Use? As IMO thats not clearly written anywhere. DragonFire1024 07:40, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * A rationale outlining why the media in question qualifies for an exemption under Resolution:Licensing policy:

"Their use, with limited exception, should be to illustrate historically significant events, to include identifying protected works such as logos, or to complement (within narrow limits) articles about copyrighted contemporary works. An EDP may not allow material where we can reasonably expect someone to upload a freely licensed file for the same purpose, such as is the case for almost all portraits of living notable individuals. Any content used under an EDP must be replaced with a freely licensed work whenever one is available which will serve the same educational purpose."

 * The rationale you've now added seems like a stretch. To suggest that this is the only map of Tehran available is not a reasonable notion. --+Deprifry+ 07:53, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Then tell me where a map of the British Embassy in Iran is thats "free" because commons has none. DragonFire1024 07:55, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Anyone with a bit of Photoshop skills could, with some effort, create a map of that section of Tehran. --+Deprifry+ 07:59, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That is not reasonable. We are not here to force anyone to make their own images. The image is available, and is licensed properly and is compatible with Wikinews. And no one has yet to tell me any reason why its not.The fair use is there. And its not on commons nor is a map. And if you start telling users to make their own images, you may as well tell them to take a hike too. DragonFire1024 08:07, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Fair Use and Wikinews
The major failing of the policy with regards to Wikinews is a failure to take into account our time constraints and the focus of our users on writing. We have an archiving policy, and as far as I am concerned this image was fair use at the time the associated article was published. I could live with a or  tag and asking commons for help with images, but if they can't replace the image within our pre-archiving window I see no reason why we shouldn't keep using the image on that article.

Personally I think it is ridiculous to suggest that our users should be squandering their time with photoshop to replace a map provided under Crown Copyright. Our project hasn't attracted the people who carry out these tasks and if they have set up any framework to do this work for sister projects elsewhere (Eg commons) they've hidden it well.

We already hold ourselves to a higher standard than many of the mainstream press, this map likely appeared on many sites without any credit. I understand the frustration of some who object to the encyclopedic interpretation of the new policy. As far as I'm concerned for an image like this you claim Fair use, and if it isn't replaced within 240 hours then tough luck, it was fair use for the life of the article. If someone comes along 241 hours later and uploads a more free image then the image used should be tagged to avoid future use.

Some of the comments I have seen regarding the dispute over this issue have constituted personal attacks and threats. Some of the involved parties who are not so active on this project need to accept that our non-encyclopedic nature means there are different interpretations of the policy here. On the other hand, some of those who are unhappy with the proposal are failing to assume good faith. Can we stop the foot-stomping and threats and have a serious discussion about this one image? Please, make an effort to convince me that we should replace it rather than tag it as not for future use. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:36, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Fair Use Rational: The entire portion of the Crown Copyright image is used and taken directly from the above source with no modifications. This image is being used to show an exact location or visual identification of the British Embassy in Tehran, Iran. It illustrates the particular topic of where shots were fired outside the British embassy in Tehran during the hostage crisis of the 7 British sailors being held captive in Iran. This image has not been uploaded in a lower resolution from the original. This image is an exact location of the embassy and no other "free" image exists under the guidelines of "free." This image could not be recreated without the use of copyrighted material/maps.

 * Is this good enough? meets guideline according to WP. DragonFire1024 03:48, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Calm Down!
I think we need to start a fresh and, calm down! I happen to agree with DragonFire1024 because he has followed all the minimum requirements and, has in general responded appropriately to any criticizm. I think this has become way to heated and should have some time to calm down. Symode09 04:04, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

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I reverted this because its not sourced. DragonFire1024 09:40, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It's a direct copy from the first source, so it's sourced, but a copyvio. —Zachary talk 09:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah then they must have added the info to the source after I read it :) DragonFire1024 09:49, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


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6.3 earthquake rocks Laos

May 16, 2007 According to the USGS a magnitude 6.3 earthquake struck the Luang Namtha province of Laos at approximately 3:56 p.m. local time [4:56 a.m. eastern time]. The quake was felt as far as Bangkok.

The epicenter was reported to be 165 km [105 miles] west, northwest of Luang Prabang, Laos at a depth of 38.1 km [23.7 miles]. The quake was located just north of the town Chiang Rai provincial.

There are no reports of damage as of yet, but the USGS reports that damage in the area could be "moderate to heavy."

"The tremor could be felt in Bangkok and the northern provinces. The people in Oudomxai, near the epicentre, were shocked and ran out of their buildings but there were no reports of casualties or damage," said Smith Dharmasarojana, the director of the National Disaster Warning Center.

Witnesses report office building shaking in Bangkok and several of the skyscrapers have been evacuated.

No tsunami warning has been issued.

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This is a logo and logos are NOT affected by the new policy. But it still needs a source DragonFire1024 10:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

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Martin Luther King Jr.'s oldest daughter Yolanda King dies at age 51

May 16, 2007

Yolanda King, the oldest daughter of former Civil Rights Leader Martin Luther King Jr. has died at the age of 51.

The cause of her death is still unknown, but reports say that she was suffering from heart related problems and that shortly after King gave a speech, she collapsed.

"She was an actress, author, producer, advocate for peace and nonviolence, who was known and loved for her motivational and inspirational contributions to society," said a statement issued by King's family.

A spokesman for the King Center, Steve Klein, says that King died while at her Santa Monica, California home.

King was born on November 17, 1955 in Montgomery, Alabama. An actress, speaker and producer, King played Rosa Parks in the King miniseries in 1978. She was also the CEO of Higher Grounds Productions, a company that produces events related to spirituality and which advertised King for speeches and performances.

"We must keep reaching across the table and, in the tradition of Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King, feed each other," said King during a January speech at Ebenezer Baptist Church.


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Comments:Microsoft claims 235 patent breaches by open source software

Microsoft is scared of projects like open office - and rightly so. Its only a matter of time before they lose a serious market share to the open source alternatives. And they're grasping at straws to save their butts.

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Khamenei OKs talks with US on Iraq

May 16, 2007

The Supreme Leader of Iran, Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has approved talks with the United States to deal with the security situation in Iraq but has said the discussions won't involve other outstanding issues between the two countries such as Iran's nuclear program.

Khamenei, as the supreme leader of Iran, has the final say in all state issues under Iran's Rule of the Islamic Jurisprudence. Moreover, he is the highest-ranking Islamic cleric in Iran and also has a considerable following in Iraq, Lebanon, the Palestinian territories, and other parts of the Islamic world.

Khamenei make his remarks in a speech in Mashhad where he said, "Iran's policy of not negotiating and having relations with America remains the same until the policies of this arrogant government change."

The United States and Iran have broken diplomatic relations since the Iran hostage crisis in 1980. Tehran has in the past called the United States the "Great Satan" and the enemy of Islam. Khamenei believes that rejecting a thorough discussion of all the disagreements between the United States and Iran is a "firm, logical and defendable policy." The Leader of Islamic Revolution said,How could one talk with an arrogant, bullying, expansionist and colonizing American government especially in tenure of its current rude, disrespectful and insolent authorities?"

These most recent remarks by Khamenei come after the brief exchange of greetings by Condoleezza Rice and Manouchehr Mottaki at the Sharm el-Sheikh conference in Egypt without a substantive discussion of the security situation of Iraq.

In 2005, Khamenei declared that the United States was responsible for terrorism in Iraq and said, "The presence of aliens in Iraq is harmful and destructive to the Iraqi people." He also exhorted the American forces to withdraw.

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Sarkozy succeeds Chirac as president of France

May 16, 2007 Today, the official ceremony ushering in Nicolas Sarkozy as the new president of France took place at Élysée Palace. A 21-gun salute marked the moment he assumed power from his predecessor, Jacques Chirac.

Jean-Louis Debré, president of the Constitutional Council, received the oath of office from Sarkozy. "From this day on and for the duration of your mandate, you embody France, symbolize the republic and represent all the French people," he said as he made Sarkozy the 23rd President of France.

Sarkozy's wife, Cecilia, and their five children were among the attendees.

"I will defend the independence of France. I will defend the identity of France," said Sarkozy in his inaugural address. "There is a need to unite the French people ... and to meet commitments because never before has [public] confidence been so shaken and so fragile."

France needs "to take risks and follow initiatives," he said, as well as "rehabilitate the values of work, effort, merit and respect."

He also said he would place defense of human rights and the fight against global warming at the center of his foreign policy.

Handing over the launch codes for France's nuclear arsenal, was one of the final tasks of Chirac's presidency. After a private meeting with Sarkozy, Chirac drove off, ending his 12 years as president, with Sarkozy waving goodbye from the courtyard of Élysée Palace. Tuesday, Chirac had made his farewells to the nation in a televised address. Sarkozy rode in convertible up the Avenue des Champs-Élysées to the Arc de Triomphe, where he rekindled the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. He said that he was moved by a letter written by Guy Môquet to his parents. Môquet was executed by the Germans in 1941, along with Jean-Pierre Timbaud. It is essential that children know the horrors of war, he said. Coincidentially, Sarkozy is the first president of France to have been born after World War II.

After that, Sarkozy flew to Germany for talks about the future of the European Union.

"The first emergency is to get the European Union out of its current paralysis," Sarkozy told reporters in Berlin. "For that, it is necessary that Germany, which today holds the EU presidency, and France, which has always been its privileged partner in Europe, see eye to eye on this."


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Talk:Khamenei OKs talks with US on Iraq

Velayat-e faqih
Velayat-e faqih is an important political and religious theory. Iran's system of clerical rule is a reference to velayat-e faqih.--Blivit 13:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * the WP article has about a paragraph on this in relation to Iran. the article is also tagged as disputed. readers are better served by reading the Politics of Iran article to get the background than by trying to evaluate what is ok in the Islamic Guardianship article and then try to extropolate to the Iranian situation.
 * i see relevance for the views of some followers in Germany to the contents of this article? so i'm removing the link. –Doldrums(talk) 14:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

 * for topics that most readers in our international audience are not likely to be familiar with, it is better to link to Wikipedia where it is comprehensively discussed rather than "short, simple definitions in Wiktionary" which are unlikely to capture the meaning and context of these concepts well. –Doldrums(talk) 14:13, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

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Complaints about Bible surge after HK student paper classified as indecent

May 17, 2007

The Hong Kong Television and Entertainment Licensing Authority (TELA) has received 2,041 complaints within 3 days, calling for the to be reclassified as "indecent", following a heated controversy sparked by the sex column of an university student newspaper, which was classified by the government's publication tribunal as "indecent". By 17 May, TELA decided not to submit the Bible to the tribunal.

Two weeks ago, the 's student newspaper sparked a public debate when it was found that they had asked readers if they fantasised about incest or bestiality, along with some soft sex stories and an unrelated abstract drawing about sex.

Although there is no explicit description or pornographic photos, the paper was classified as "Category II: Indecent" by Obscene Articles Tribunal (OAT) on 14 May because it asked the question— "Have you fantasised about incest or bestiality?". This classification means that the student editors have breached the law by distributing the paper to the public, will have a criminal record, and risk a jail sentence.

Since then, OAT's decision has been hotly contested among teachers, activists, commentators and scholars.

Complaints about the Bible then immediately flooded in to the authorities, claiming that the Bible is "indecent" due to its textual descriptions of rape and incest. The accusation was first made by a web site truthbible.net which said the holy book is full of sexual and violent content and its "indecency" far exceeds that of the recent sex column published in the Chinese University's student newspaper.

A webmaster of truthbible.net, who wishes to remain anonymous, said if the sex column of the student's newspaper is indecent because of public complaints, "there's no reasons not to judge the Bible as indecent" because of its sexual content.

By May 17 (UTC+8), TELA had received 2,041 complaints on the indecency of the Bible, up from 200 in three days. By the same day, TELA announced it will not submit the Bible to the Obscene Articles Tribunal for classification. "The Bible is a religious text which is part of civilisation. It has been passed on from generation to generation. TELA considers that such longstanding religious texts or literature have not violated standards of morality, decency and propriety generally accepted by reasonable members of the community."

According to the regulations in Hong Kong, any books classified as "indecent" by the OAT can only be sold or distributed to people over 18. All such publications must be sealed in a wrapper with a statutory warning notice.

The CUHK Student Journals editorial board stated that the Bible complaints are not related to them, and they had no prior knowledge of such a movement.


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The article is nearly a copy and paster from Reuters. Please rewrite the article. See below for some tips :) DragonFire1024 14:40, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The first paragraph is nearly exactly the same thing Reuters said. We cannot copy and paste from a competing news source. You can rewrite the material. I understand that you translated, but it still cannot be the same as reuters. I know you have interest in this, and thats why I did not delete the article. I hope to see it created properly...and as a new user, I hope that you will rewrite it, as I love to see new Wikinewsies trying to do so. If you need help, just ask me anytime :) DragonFire1024 14:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * We have to delete copyrighted material from edit history as part of the oversight. DragonFire1024 14:46, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I restored the article...Feel free to work on it. DragonFire1024 14:51, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. In fact the following what I just wanted to reply. Luckily you have restored the article before my reply, otherwise I have left forever already.

"Thanks for telling me. It is different from what Chinese Wikipedia/Wikinews does (which still keeps the edit history until it is confirmed by the community that it is copyvio). Anyway, it really breaks my heart that you claim that I am totally copying from somewhere else. I just want to bring such an interesting news from Chinese one to English. If you can point out which sentences are simular to the Reuters' text, I would be pleased to rewrite. But whole article again from 0? Sorry! I don't have any interest to rewrite the whole acticle again, and probably never in English Wikinews. Goodbye!" -- AngusSuen 14:59, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I ghope you don't leave over a small misunderstanding. Sorry...but I saw what I saw, and now its fixed. I apologize again. DragonFire1024 15:05, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

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Wikinews attends Christy Carlson Romano concert in Sesame Place

May 16, 2007

Wikinews reporter Nicholas Moreau contacted professional photographer David Fore of Lloyd David Photography to go to the recent Christy Carlson Romano concert at Sesame Place theme park in Langhorne, Pennsylvania.

Romano, perhaps best known for her breakout role in Even Stevens opposite Shia LaBoeuf, is presumably working towards a new album, regularly posting new singles to her MySpace profile. She is listed as "indie" on her profile, having originally been signed to Disney Records.

Romano has performed Belle in Beauty and the Beast on Broadway, as well as voice acting in the television series Kim Possible and video game Kingdom Hearts.

Sesame Place recently opened for the season, adding Abby Cadabby to its cast of life-size Muppets. The park offers a variety of wet and dry rides, as well as stage attractions. Christy performed at the park four times over last weekend, as well as riding in its daily Rock Around the Block Parade.


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Found David via Craigslist, and he went to the Sunday afternoon performance. Commons has a few more images, of the many he shot. This was mainly as an exercise to get images for Wikipedia itself, but I thought I might as well share them here. -- Zanimum 15:11, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Let me see if I got this right. David Fore emailed you these pictures. But not only that, but he released them under a CC-BY] license. Can you document this? If I e-mail him [mailto:dave@lloyddavidphotography.com here] will he confirm that? --SVTCobra 15:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Yes, like with the articles Stephen McNeil becomes leader of the Nova Scotia Liberals (Halifax), Billboard holds benefit Oscar party for Children Uniting Nations (Los Angeles), Cars big winner as 34th Annual Annie Awards handed out (Los Angeles), and a Hilary Duff article I never wrote (Toronto), I found a willing photographer (or in the first article's case, reporter) to go out to these events and photograph them.

 * This is the Craigslist post that I advertised the opportunity.

 * Technically I didn't list the GFDL license in the ad, of which some of the uploads suggest, and I'll correct that now. But I think you'll find many photographers are very willing to work for free, if there's some major wattage they can add to their portfolio. (Granted, Christy isn't major wattage, but she's big enough.) --  Zanimum 16:40, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Just as a note, Sesame Place is holding events in the coming months with Bob from Sesame Street, and both Miles and Gabby from the show; David says he up for both. There's also a concert with some random girl band, and a book reading with Maria from Sesame Street, and I'm looking for alternates, since he can't make them for sure.

 * If there's any events anywhere in Canada/US/UK/Australia/anywhere else that speaks English as a primary language, I'm willing to get us in, ask me, I can try my best. (I'm starting to write a generic letter to presidential candidates, as well.) --  Zanimum 16:49, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Wow, this is truly fascinating. I appreciate the detailed explaination. Thank you. --SVTCobra 17:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

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Please explain what the image is for or i will delete it soon as it is copyrighted and has no source. Thanks--Mark Talk 18:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * right i deleted the image a few secs before you replied. i (or another admin) will restore it for you once you have created your article.  the image will then have to have fair use rational info added that can only be done arfter the article has been created. --Mark Talk 18:39, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * its a shame that you want to leave now but on the upload page it clearly states that sources must be shown. this is why the image was deleted.  --Mark Talk 18:51, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

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Wikinews Shorts: May 16, 2007

New Jersey wildfires burning over 18,000 acres of land, thunderstorms expected
In New Jersey, United States, 18,000 acres, or 20 square miles, of pine forests are ablaze. The fire started about 25 miles from Atlantic City, near an aerial bombing base. While there have been no deaths, 2,500 homes have been evacuated. The National Weather Service has posted a Severe Thunderstorm Warning for Wednesday night.

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Prince Harry prohibited from going to Iraq

May 16, 2007 Prince Harry, known as Prince Henry of Wales, who was recently set to leave for Iraq with his regiment, has been prohibited from going. The Chief of the General Staff (Head of the British Army) General Sir Richard Dannatt, has decided Prince Harry would not be deployed based on his review of specific risks.

"I have decided today that Prince Harry will not deploy as a Troop Leader with his Squadron," said General Dannatt in a statement. ""There have been a number of specific threats – some reported and some not reported, which relate directly to Prince Harry as an individual. These threats place not only him but also those around him to a degree of risk that I now deem unacceptable."

Despite Prince Harry's previous threats to quit the army if he was not allowed to deploy to Iraq, a spokesman has said he will stay in the army. "Let me also make quite clear that as a professional soldier, Prince Harry himself will be extremely disappointed," added General Dannatt.

A number of threats have been a factor in the Chief of the General Staff's decision making, saying that "sending him in not only endangers those around him, the effect of being kidnapped would be a blow to the entire UK."

The UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) indicated in a press release Wednesday that the decision was based on a military assessment and that Clarence House, Buckingham Palace, 10 Downing Street and the Defence Secretary had been informed of the decision.

The MoD acknowledged that some insurgents in Iraq might try to claim victory with the decision, but that it was important to deny them "such a high value target".


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Developing
This is both breaking news and developing story. I'm busy at the moment but I will give it my full atttention soon if other people do not want to help develop the story. The 13th 4postle 21:40, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Grammar
"Prince Harry, properly known as Prince Henry of Wales, who was set to go to Iraq with his regiment will not be going to Iraq. The Head of the Army General Sir Richard Dannatt, said he would keep his previous decision of Prince Harry going to Iraq under constant review and has now said that he will not be allowed to go." Doesn't make sence. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  22:27, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

please add "royalty" category
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Man eats dog to protest animal cruelty
Good catch on the misquoting. I guess I put that article together a little hastily. Thanks. --SVTCobra 21:47, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Greek Actor
It was by a few words that Greek actor Sotiris Moustakas dies at 67 was copyvio...something that could have been fixed. So thats what I did. DragonFire1024 09:00, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No sorry. I am not really familiar with his work :( DragonFire1024 09:19, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Atlantis Extend
Actually yesterday/earlier, it was in the second source...but since they decided to update their article rather than staret a new one, their quoutes were removed. I will try and find another. DragonFire1024 22:46, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately the AP updated all of their articles like that and noting from the original remains any longer...not sure what to do now :( DragonFire1024 22:54, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Prob not much we can do. Thanks CWiltshire 23:08, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry...I have noticed that before...and it is annoying to users when looking back like you do. DragonFire1024 23:24, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

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