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Ford Motor Company cutting 30,000 jobs by 2012

January 23, 2006 The Ford Motor Company, the second-largest car manufacturer in America, will cut 30,000 jobs and 14 plants as part of a restructuring plan to relieve Ford after a US$1.6 billion loss last year in North American sales.

The plan, called "Way Forward", the brainchild of Ford's Chief Executive Officer, William Clay Ford Jr., is to end Ford's North American losses by 2008. To accomplish this 30,000 jobs which make up 20 to 25 percent of Ford's North American workforce of 122,000 people will be cut and 14 plants will be closed in order to bring Ford's production capacity in line with demand.

By the end of this year, the Atlanta and St. Louis plants will be closed. Atlanta makes the Ford Taurus sedan, which is being phased out. The St. Louis plant is one of two plants that manufactures the Ford Explorer, whose sales had a 29% decline in 2005. It will also close its Wixom, Michigan plant, Batavia Transmission in Ohio the Windsor Casting plant in Ontario which was previously announced by Ford that it was to be closed after contract negotiations with the Canadian Auto Workers union.

The plant in St. Thomas, Ontario plant will have one shift cut from it. The plant makes the Crown Victoria and Grand Marquis cars. On this cut of the one shift, Whitey MacDonald, chairperson of Local 1520, Canadian Auto Workers union said "There is a lot of anger here today, there is no doubt about it. Any time a plant goes to one shift, it puts them in limbo. This car has made the company millions of dollars over the years they have invested in other products and locations - we are entitled to some new investment given our track record."

Positive news for the plant is that Ford is still committed to invest $200 million into the plant to upgrade the appearance of the two cars manufactured there. On the contrary, according to Automotive analyst Dennis DesRosier believes that the factory is still "likely" to close. DesRoiser said, "The St. Thomas plant is old, the product is old, it make sense it is on that list. This may be just a short-term reprieve, it may be look at permanent closure in two to three years."

Two more plants will close in 2008, another two in 2012. Two more plants to be closed are to be announced later this year. Also, Ford will fire 12% of its 53 executive officers.

Due to the company's current contract with the United Auto Workers union, workers at the idled plants will still be receiving their pay and benefits until Ford negotiates a new contract with the union. However, the workers may not earn what they earn today because they will not be eligible for overtime. The UAW President Ron Gettelfinger and Vice President Gerald Bantom called say the plan is "extremely disappointing." The UAW issued statement saying "The impacted hourly and salaried workers find themselves facing uncertain futures because of senior management's failure to halt Ford's sliding market share. The announcement has further left a cloud hanging over the entire work force because of pending future announcements of additional facilities to be closed at some point in the future."


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Interview: Danny O'Brien of the Electronic Frontier Foundation

January 24, 2006

January's second Interview of the Month was with of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) on 23 January in.

The EFF is coming off a series of high-profile successes in their campaigns to educate the public, press, and policy makers regarding online rights in a digital world, and defending those rights in the legislature and the courtroom. Their settlement with, the amazingly confused decision by the Supreme Court of the United States, and the disturbing cases surrounding Diebold have earned the advocacy organization considerable attention.

When asked if the EFF would be interested in a live interview in IRC by Wikinews, the answer was a nearly immediate yes, but just a little after Ricardo Lobo. With two such interesting interview candidates agreeing so quickly, it was hard to say no to either so schedules were juggled to have both. By chance, the timing worked out to have the EFF interview the day before the U.S. Senate schedule hearings concerning the rule of the, a form of digital rights management which the recording and movie industries have been lobbying hard for - and the EFF has been lobbying hard to prevent.

Interview questions

 * [Wikinews] I'd like to jump into some direct questions which were suggested by people on the research page. These first ones relate to the US government and online privacy.
 * Since 9/11 the US administration has been progressively violating privacy standards in online communications, including circumventing its own surveillance laws and developing—and possibly implementing—the project.  What is EFF's position regarding government monitoring of private communications such e-mail, instant messaging, and voice over IP?
 * [Danny O'Brien] Since the very beginning, the EFF has worked hard to keep the traditional laws regarding wiretapping and monitoring away from the Internet, not just because we believe in strong 4th Amendment rights but because technologically, a wiretap on an individual line is miles away from what is needed to do the equivalent on the Internet. That's why, for instance, we fought against  being extended to the Net, and why we're fighting the FCC's extension of it now.

 * A lot of simple approaches to surveillance that the gov't would like to take are far from reasonable, to use the language of the 4th amendment.

 * I should say that I'm using American examples here, but we're obviously concerned more generally.

 * [Wikinews] A related question - Will EFF be involved in cases, even as amicus, such as the cases filed by ACLU Detroit and the New York, which allege the  violated US law prohibiting wiretaps without a warrant?
 * [Danny O'Brien] We're currently looking into every possible avenue. One of the difficulties is trying to ascertain exactly what the government program involved. The EFF has a battery of lawyers, with different areas of interest.

 * [Wikinews] Is this in the same vein as the recent requests for Google to pony up its search database?
 * [Danny O'Brien] No, that's a great question. The two issues are very different, but I think speak to the problems that the Internet is now being seen as a resource for government surveillance and research, which we think that all Net companies have to become aware of. There's a real danger in simply logging everything: you end up risking being a tool for the invasion of your own customer's privacy.

 * [Wikinews] Google alone of the largest search engines refused the Justice Department's demands to turn over user data. The EFF is on record as criticizing Google's privacy policy. How does the EFF feel about that privacy policy now? What does EFF feel about the other search engine's behaviour—did they comply with their own privacy policies? Does this incident reflect the strength or weakness of corporate privacy policies online?
 * [Danny O'Brien] Privacy policies largely extend at the moment to merely the descriptions of what information is stored. We've long warned against companies collecting large amounts of data about their customers, and doing nothing to anonymise or aggregate it. We think that companies are storing up trouble for themselves this way.

 * [Wikinews] Does the EFF have any material or programs that seek to educate employers and companies on the advantages of privacy?
 * [Danny O'Brien] We do -- hold on, I should be handing out more URLs http://www.eff.org/osp/ is our guide to "online service providers" for the best practices in logging data. I'm also speaking at the MySQL conference later this year on what *not* to include in your schema. It's an interesting area, because it's one where coders have a degree of power over what can be done.

 * Personally, I'd like to see a great deal more knowledge about how to aggregate and anonymise data being spread among the community. I'm constantly recommending the book Translucent Databases, which covers this very nicely. Also, the OSS source would do a great service by setting reasonable defaults for software logging behaviours. The trouble is, and I think we all fall into this trap; we assume the more logging the better. How many of us are casually logging this, for instance?

 * [Wikinews] I'd like to talk about the Sony BMG case for a bit, if that's okay. First, congratulations to EFF in regard to some of the successes in the Sony BMG case. There are some questions, clarifications about the case, however. The settlement appears to cover the XCP and SunComm software delivered on CDs. What about OpenMG XCP, DRM used by Sony BMG's SonicStage software for Sony Connect?
 * [Danny O'Brien] Okay, this is where I have to say that I'm a *bit* limited in what I can say. Ah, if only out of blind ignorance in this particular case.

 * [Wikinews] Do you know if the OpenMG XCP software is mentioned at all in the agreement?
 * [Danny O'Brien] I don't know about OpenMG: we joined the case representing XCP and SunComm users, so I don't think that was covered. But watch me shine the giant neon IANAL sign above me. If you like, I can ask after the interview, and we can add that to the results.

 * [ Wikinews] I'd appreciate that.

 * Can you disclose the terms of the settlement regarding future use of software DRM measures? Have they promised not to alter users machines in the future?
 * [Danny O'Brien] Again, it's always dangerous to paraphrase legal documents. Ah, we have an FAQ that covers this. Thank goodness: http://www.eff.org/IP/DRM/Sony-BMG/settlement_faq.php

 * [Wikinews] This case also has some connection to copyright infringement : the XCP software included code taken from the VLC media player software, which is released under the GPL. Is EFF involved in any cases regarding this?
 * [Danny O'Brien] No we didn't cover this. We don't have standing to take on the copyright issue - i.e. we would have to represent a copyright holder.

 * [Wikinews] Would EFF be involved in such a case if asked?
 * [Danny O'Brien] It'd be an interesting case, but we try to distribute these cases to where the expertise lies. During the Sony BMG case, we spoke to groups like the FSF and the Software Freedom Law Center. Generally speaking, they're the people who would be best placed to investigate cases like this.

 * It's worth saying that we're really pleased that there's now a whole constellation of great organisations that we work with. FSF, the Berkman Center, Public Knowledge in D.C., the list goes on.

 * [Wikinews] The Sony BMG case is a content producer attempting to enforce DRM on their clients. The US FCC is trying to do the same thing on the hardware of US citizens with the Broadcast Flag. I know the EFF is involved in the lobbying on this, but I have questions which lead into this. This is a hardware issue. Does it matter on the internet?
 * [Danny O'Brien] Yes, for a number of reasons.

 * The point about the broadcast and audio flags is that they set up a kind of ghetto for content. The whole point of both is to *prevent* distribution onto the Internet. But in order to do that, you need to create a hardware world which is fenced off from not just the Net, but from user modification, and open source development.

 * This ghetto has to be created in every audio-visual device, by government mandate. So that affects the Net a couple of ways. Firstly, you essentially curtail the Net's use. But secondly, these flags are easily (though illegally) circumventable, so they generally prompt even more draconian laws (which are just as easily circumventable.)

 * One of our biggest problems with the flags is they . They create a government technological mandate in user tech. Once you start down that path—especially when you discover your initial mandate doesn't actually work—you just ask for more and more control.

 * [Wikinews] Isn't this already the case, considering the HDTV standard and others? Isn't standards an element of the FCCs mandate?
 * [Danny O'Brien] Standards for broadcast and reception, but not standards for what you do *after* you receive something. Remember the FCC's primary job is to prevent interference, and to manage the commons of the public airwaves. It's a huge overreach for it to take over what you do with what comes from over those airwaves.

 * [Wikinews] Because this is a rule, not a law, how does the EFF plan to approach it in the US Congress?
 * [Danny O'Brien] Well, the initial regulation was thrown out by the courts, who agreed with us that this was agency overreach. So what we've seen now is groups like the MPAA and RIAA attempt to extend the FCC's powers by law.

 * For all of last year, they attempted to do that by -- well, for want of a better word, sneakily attaching the necessary language to other bills. As you say, it can potentially be a very small amendment, so I suppose they felt that they could do this. Everyone fought an incredibly effective campaign to prevent this. And a lot of that had to do with the Net—we'd hear from the Hill of a lobbyist attempt to include the regulation, and we'd be able to organise calls and letters from constituents very quickly.

 * Most politicians, strangely enough, don't like it when something is sneaked past them. And we managed to alert a lot of them to arguments they weren't hearing from broadcasting lobbyists.

 * Now, we're seeing a second stage. Which is Hollywood coming out into the open, and presenting the flags openly. That stage begins tomorrow, with Senate hearings on the topic.

 * [Wikinews] The Senate will begin hearings on this rule tomorrow. What does EFF expect to happen during this legislative process? How might this affect online communities? to get specific and personal, what does it mean to Wikinews readers and contributors?
 * [Danny O'Brien] If the law passes, it'll have dramatic effects. Particularly to Wikinews' future, actually: I think we can all foresee a time when Wikinews would take fair use samples of the news and public affairs, both audio and visual. With a broadcast or audio flag in place, that usage - while legal - would effectively disappear or at least be much much harder.

 * More generally, you'll see advancement in tech frozen in a lot of areas, the pulling away of open source development in anything that was connected to HD TV or digital radio. The biggest problem here is that technology like the flag gives the entertainment industry a stick to hit the technology industry. Before the broadcast flag was even introduced, Hollywood was lining up objections to technology like.

 * [Wikinews] I understand that would be the case in the USA, but could you explain how this might affect people in the EU? or anywhere outside the USA?
 * [Danny O'Brien] Sure, one of the areas that we spend a lot of time with these days—we have two staff working full time on international issues—is what's called policy laundering. So for instance, the worst provisions of the DMCA have generally been introduced into law in countries like Australia by their inclusion in bilateral Free Trade Agreements. Already, Hollywood representatives have been working in Europe and elsewhere to introduce the equivalent of the broadcast flag there. The rule is that if you can introduce it in one country, that makes it a lot easier to export it elsewhere.

 * [Danny O'Brien] Copyright extension is a great example of this. In that, the last US copyright extension was introduced to track Europe, and now Europe is being encouraged to match its copyright with the US. We're already seeing that with copy control mandates like the flag.

 * [Wikinews] The Broadcast flag is a form of Digital Rights Management, in this case implemented by the US FCC. There are other DRM issues to talk about. In the French Parliament the DADVSI law, which relates to the implementation of the 2001 European Directive on Copyright in France, is under active consideration. Has the EFF had the opportunity to consider this law, and what is the opinion if so?
 * [Danny O'Brien] Actually, I was just talking to Submarine about this before the interview started. We're keeping as close an eye on this as we can. It's a good example of the ratchet problem as it's an implementation of the EUCD.

 * [Wikinews] Canada and Belgium apply heavy taxes on copying medium, and the revenues from these taxes are used to support creative artists and developers, as an alternative to supporting DRM. What does EFF feel about such a method to control fair use/fair dealing?
 * [Danny O'Brien] Actually, we prefer a system of voluntary licensing schemes over either of these approaches. http://www.eff.org/share/collective_lic_wp.php

 * [Wikinews] There are efforts under way to develop an open standard DRM, such as a project by Sun Microsystems which is relatively fair to users. Would EFF support an open standard/open source DRM, or is the entire concept of DRM considered unacceptable in any form?
 * [Danny O'Brien] Our take on Sun's DRM: http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2005_08.php#003929

 * Essentially, our disagreement isn't with DRm per se: it's DRM backed up by the DMCA's anti-circumvention laws. If users had the right to circumvent DRm to exercise their fair use rights, we think the market would quickly sort out what controls on media use were acceptable and what were not.

 * [Wikinews] A follow-on question from the French one : does eff plan to set up some chapters in Europe ?
 * [Danny O'Brien] France like many countries, has a great core of activists and advocates already. We'd be delighted to help them in any way we can.

 * [Wikinews] A follow-on question regarding the Sony BMG case : Does EFF have a response to the Register article http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/12/06/eff_needs_to_die/
 * [Danny O'Brien] Sigh. I wondered if this would turn up. It's a really odd article, given that it includes a bunch of cases that aren't ours, ones that we didn't lose, and other oddities. I think we'd rather let the facts speak for themselves. Here's a list of our [ http://www.eff.org/legal/victories/ victories]. There's a longer list at the wikipedia entry.

 * [Wikinews] Are there any questions I should have asked you, which I did not?
 * [Danny O'Brien] Hahah! No, but I'm happy to take additional questions. I'm actually trying to think of some of the harder questions.

 * [Wikinews] Well, I think I'll ask MrM to unmoderate now, and let everyone mob you.
 * [MrMiscellanious] :) Alright, here we go...

MrMiscellanious made this room no longer moderated for normal users.

 * [Danny O'Brien] I guess the question we often get asked is "Why aren't you doing something about X?" where X is a matter that really is important—the simple answer to that is that we have limited resources. Which is why I'm really happy to see lots of other organisations spring up.

 * [Question] Does EFF support TOR, financially or otherwise, anymore?
 * [Danny O'Brien] We host Tor's website, but direct funding was for last year. Actually, the Tor questions really are so frequentlyl asked that they're best answered on Tor's FAQ (including the legal FAQ we wrote for them.) http://tor.eff.org/faq.html.en

 * [Question] en.Wikipedia prevents TOR endpoints from editing on the site; does EFF consider such class-blocking an acceptable response to behavior, or is it generally inappropriate?
 * [Danny O'Brien] We're disappointed. We hope there's a way of providing a technical solution that would work to support Tor's aims, and would be practical for Wikipedia. If we can work as an intermediary in that discussion, we'd be happy to.

 * [Question] European organisations which have similar goals like the EFF were not successful in preventing Telecommunications data retention. What conclusions does the EFF draw for their own campaigns?
 * [Danny O'Brien] I have a long answer to that, with my EFF hat off.

 * Okay, so the reason I'll take my EFF hat off to answer your question, is because I'm also involved in which is one of those organisations in Europe. The conclusion is that advocacy needs resources. One of the strengths of EFF and other US advocacy groups is they are permanent, with a paid staff. http://openrightsgroup.org

 * I think that now there are sites like http://www.pledgebank.com around, and facts like the Wikipedia funding drive show that we're getting to the point where we can turn volunteer organisations into groups that have that flexibility, plus financial resources. Which means you get to the situation where the group of volunteers who formed ORG can now work on projects like submitting to UK parliamentary inquiries: http://www.openrightsgroup.org/orgwiki/index.php/APIG_DRM_Public_Inquiry

 * There are fantastic groups in Europe, like EDRI and FFII and I think the time is now right for those groups to be given more resources by everyone. And I speak as someone who traditionally comes out in hives when money is mentioned. It's a big leap, but I think it's one we all have to work at getting right. Give to them, at exactly the same time as you join the EFF: http://www.eff.org/support/

 * Danny O'Brien puts EFF hat back on.

 * [Question] "Danny O'Brien "once successfully lobbied a cockney London pub to join Richard M. Stallman in a spontaneous demonstration of Bulgarian folk dance." Can you give details?"
 * [Danny O'Brien] RMS is a great fan of folk-dancing, and was teaching me and some friends the dance moves to the Free Software Song in a pub in Shoreditch. Maybe it was the alcohol, all the allegedly viral nature of the GPL, but by the end, we had most of the pub doing them. He loves it, although recently I believe he's hurt his leg and can't do it so much any more

 * [Question] Wikipedia was earlier attacked by a group, which has launched a website, claiming that Wikipedia should be upheld by law to have 100% factuality in their website (relating to an earlier case where a bogus biography was posted to Wikipedia). What is the EFF's stance on the issue?
 * [Danny O'Brien] I'm not sure of the site that you refer to, but obviously we'd support Wikipedia on this matter. We don't see any problem with Wikipedia's process.

 * [Question] There is an article on de.wikipedia (German) about the hacker "Tron". His full offline name is included in the article. A German court has issued an injunction preventing the Wikipedia.de website (the website of the German Wikimedia Foundation) from linking to the de.wikipedia site, which is outside the jurisdiction of that court. What does EFF think about such extranational effects of local laws? Does a person's name, especially a figure as well known as Tron, deserve special privacy? The order was obtained based on a proposal by the deceased hacker's family. And it should be pointed out that the hacker's real name was known for a long time.
 * [Danny O'Brien] It's a good question: honestly, it depends on the law, and the practicality of the law. I can't speak to the case, particularly as the last I heard, the facts weren't clear. In this case, it's not the territoriality of the law that's of concern, it's whether anyone should be forbidden from linking to a resource.


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Change Username Request
Hi, I have a change username request. --Kgargar 02:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Archive 1 - October 11, 2005 - Archive 2 - January 23, 2006

Please reply at Kubby talk page...

 * Ping StrangerInParadise 03:48, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again for the help
I didn't get the source template thing at all (tried to use it inline, it was making a mess, lol). StrangerInParadise 04:59, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Bad cleanup tag
May need some help: an anonymous editor has placed a clean up tag on the Kubby article. I reverted, and don't want an edit war just now. The article is in a very well-sourced, clean state, and I can't tell him to take it to the talk page regarding is specific concern, as his talk page is locked. As far as credibility, to put a cleanup tag on is the moral equivalent to unpublishing it, if not worse. Please advice. StrangerInParadise 19:51, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations!
The Arbcom selection process is completed, and you have been chosen by the community to serve in this role. Hopefully you won't have anything to do but twiddle your thumbs, but good on you anyway! -  Amgine | talk en.WN 23:35, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, Congrats. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 23:42, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

This may be your first ArbCom matter
Apparently, I was blocked on Wikinews! This admin, Mrmiscellanious blocked me without warning for 3RR on the Kubby article until 21:55 1 Feb. Worse, I did not violate 3RR! It gets better, this admin is flatly anti-cannabis, and invoked the rule in an article he was clearly trying to exercise editorial control over. Now it is full of typos, and I can neither fix it nor appeal to an admin capable of counting to four. Incandescent does not begin to describe my state of mind, and I have gone through several cups of tea. BTW, here is my last version

"As he shivers in a cold cell in the Sierra foothills, his fears are now being realized."
The main bone of contention was this phrase which is a fact well-documented by several sources. Two separate people cut the line, saying it is either unsupported or too emotional. WTF! Neutral does not mean neutered! I had several other admins comment on how well-sourced the article was. In fact, it was well-sourced in its very first draft (thanks in large part to Timeshifter). At my request, you and others gave ongoing guidance as to issues of form. As I am locked out, I cannot appeal to any of them. My voicemail to Mrmiscellanious went unanswered.

Speaking of sources, there was some issue about footnotes inline, which I had in the first draft, which you put- I thought- in the prefered form. Also,

 * The key reason for this was the fact that these inline links pushed a specific position, an action which is contrary to NPOV. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:32, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Ridiculous. The links establish facts cited in the article. Most are transcripts, government reports, and other news articles. The facts are often quotes from the principle in the story. How can one quote anyone and escape this notion of POV? I would like to have seen a specific example, but as I was locked out of the site, and the article renegotiated on IRC (access to which medium was unknown to be a requirement), neither I nor Timeshifter- the pricipal researchers and authors- had any means of participating. Can you say admin cabal?

Adding material
There was some issue about adding material as it came in. I made my explanations and asked for advice. It put me in a catch-22, as Chipuni added a comment on why Kubby was arrested which (only for being incomplete) added bias, but to add a fuller explanation would be, well, adding more information and opening a whole new window on government malfesance. I gave him sources and suggested he write a new article.

BTW, I don't understand this comment:

 * you are pushing the POV of this article by repeately expanding on Kubby's medical condition. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:29, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Why was adding information as it came in was somehow biased or POV- the information was all convergent. Neutralizer mentions supportively that I am passionate about this issue. Read the article and transcripts on Kubby's conversations with people from this weekend: if you don't feel passionate, check your pulse. All things considered, my treatment was fairly clinical.

Editorial cleanup
Prior admin guidance notwithstanding, ''This article has been nominated for editorial cleanup, that is, an editor considers it not to be publishable in its current form. The following reason has been cited: "Please move all external links to the sources section."'' You OK'ed having them there in the first place, per the wikinews style guide, all captured on the talk page. Sticking something like this on an article is almost worse than unpublishing it, as it undermines its credibility. This was the second time, where the first time DragonFire1024 had said it was not needed (can't tell whether he is an admin).

Administrator malfeasance
After Mrmiscellanious locked me out, Brianmc set about cutting the article up, leaving glaring typos. Look at the things they cut! Neither of them showed any evidence of familiarity with the topic. Also, they did so just as Kubby's lawyer was in court and after I had sent the story link to various other media.

What are my options here? Is it too much to ask for an unbiased admin who can read and count to four? I have read about foreign wikis where admins gang up on editors they don't like and lock them out. Show me how this did not happen here! Brianmc was just a crap editor, this happens sometimes. However, I can't see how, after deliberately abusing 3RR and lockout to exercise editorial control, Mrmiscellanious can remain an admin. Can you?

Timeshifter and I worked for three days gathering sources and writing this (he gathered most of the sources I used to write the articles), only to have demonstrably uninformed editors hack it up. I am a fervent believer in Wikipedia, and particularly in the power of neutrality to reveal truth, a point I have made with difficulty to several activists hard done by on Wikipedia. Things like this do make one want to give up and leave.

Four requests

 * 1) I'd like this block removed ASAP, and declared out of order.
 * 2) I'd like the Kubby article immediately reverted to my last, with a discussion to follow as to how to change it.
 * 3) I'd like Mrmiscellanious stripped of his admin privileges.
 * 4) I'd like to initiate a discussion on the propriety of placing a cleanup tag on a published article (the talk page would be better).

Please advise,

StrangerInParadise 07:41, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Referred the user to WN:DISPUTE on his talk page. --Chiacomo (talk) 05:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Re NSW Story, Thanks, not sure how that happened...
Perhaps MrM only moved the article. StrangerInParadise 05:20, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

 * It happens frequently -- I sometimes forget to check the box myself.. :D --Chiacomo (talk) 05:22, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

StrangerInParadise's block
I don't wish to continue this dispute over to you, so I'll keep it brief.

WN:BP "Disruption

Admins may, at their judgement, block IP addresses or usersnames that disrupt the normal functioning of Wikinews. Such disruption may include changing other users' signed comments or making deliberately misleading edits. Users should be warned that they are violating policy before they are blocked. For dynamic IPs, such blocks should last 24 hours. For static IPs and user names, such blocks should initially last 24 hours, but repeat violators may be blocked progressively longer, up to 30 days."

"When to block?

Admins can block users or IP addresses who:

 * Vandalize articles
 * Break the three revert rule
 * Excessively and consistently break site policy. Admins should only do this as a last resort - efforts to educate must be made first, followed by warnings.
 * Are trouble-makers who are not contributing to our goals."

As you can see, my original blocks were in line with policy. While 3RR states 24h, this is the user's second offense in the past week for the same policy. I do not think that 24h is effective in this case. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 11:58, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I am aware of exactly what the policy pages say -- I read them before reducing the block, rescinding the block, and reinstating the block. I believe we have a conflict in our policy pages (or at least in your reading of them) -- the 3RR policy page says explicity that users can be blocked up to 24 hours. --Chiacomo  (talk) 15:32, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Concerning that fourth revert
Could you review Revert cited in WN:3RR, and confirm that your cited four reverts resulted, that the page becomes identical to how it used to be at some previous time.. May I suggest for this, listing the necessary four null-diffs. Note that Revert effectively rebuts the assertion made by yourself and several other admins that reinserted material constitutes a revert.

StrangerInParadise 23:01, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I've looked at the link you cite and also read Wikipedia:WP:3RR which says, "The policy states that an editor must not perform more than three reversions, in whole or in part, on a single Wikipedia article within a 24 hour period." The emphasis is mine, but that explains it pretty well -- even if it's not part of our policy, our policy is based on Wikipedia's policy. This is a dead issue in my mind. The wiki would be better served if the incident is not repeated (by any editor on any article) whether or not you agree that the policy was violated. --Chiacomo (talk) 03:05, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Clearly, WP:REVERT controls here, as it overrides, but I see your point. I am in a small procedural bind, as some are pressing to publish, and I haven't had Amgine's attention to discuss how to move forward, though this should sort itself out tomorrow. Thanks.  StrangerInParadise 03:13, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Publish and fix it later if you can reach consensus. --Chiacomo (talk) 03:14, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Cartman and I agree that it is unpublishable in its current state, see his suggestion for a compromise. StrangerInParadise 14:00, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Admin page
Wow you were quick with that trigger! I'm back to give WNN another shot. -- User:NGerda 06:37, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Sources don't add
The sources support the statement. Don't revert unless you find another. --Irishpunktom 06:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't innaccuracies be more of a concern for you? --Irishpunktom 06:25, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

More for the trophy cabinet
I was working up to that one, only 6 or 7 stories to go. I was particularly pleased with my last Thailand one. It was a pain, many of the mainstream sites were reporting on the upcoming ruling on Valentine's day, but I had other things to worry about then. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:57, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Hopless
I will not edit that article under this circumstanses. Do whatever you like. Make a POV article if thats the price to get it published and I wont interfere. International 05:05, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Award.....
Thank you... Though I fear that my efforts may be in vain. --Chiacomo (talk) 05:49, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Re Abu Ghraib
MrM has just made a dubious set of edits, which I have just reverted. Could you review the revert, and the photo issue, including my reasoning here. This is looking more-and-more like simple censorship driven by personal distaste. StrangerInParadise 19:23, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, could you look into International's latest block, it does not seem to be documented and looks suspicious. StrangerInParadise 19:31, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

My 3RR proposal
I've called for a vote on my 3RR Proposal. Could you indicate your support or opposition, with brief comment (in the vote, or extended comment below). StrangerInParadise 05:59, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

3rd lead change
not sure what went wrong with the sqwiggly template stuff showing up with the 'lead' change. Hoping you can fix that. I looked into it, but see no progress I can make to change it for the better. Best regards. -Edbrown05 06:57, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It was on lead 2 template, have fixed (Hope you don't mind me replying) Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 07:56, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I did that earlier. Apparently you can only add a secondary article to the other leads and not the feature. So I put the 3rd lead to 2nd lead template to allow the related/secondary article. Jason Safoutin 12:22, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, misread the format
I'll wait, StrangerInParadise 00:50, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Dispute resolution
No worries, thanks very much. I don't really know anything about this stage of dispute resolution - I've never read past disputes. The only thing that I hope people don't misunderstand is that I don't consider myself to be in dispute with MrM, I'm just sick of reading conflict after conflict. - Borofkin 01:08, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Whats with the cryptic?
"remove cat per WN:DR" --elliot_k 15:38, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Your use of blocks
You have blocked 216.164.147.26 from editing for no reason.

re: RfAr
Looking into this BNZ request, I stumbled upon the 'Category:Terrorism' vote on WN:DR. Interesting as that result was, I see no new 'Category:Insurgency'.

(I digressed straight off)! But on the matter at hand, I have a very fuzzy understanding of BNZ's specific objection. I do believe the ArbCom committee will witness many atttempts to circumvent the 'Dispute resolution' process. I'm not sure yet what I think on that matter. -Edbrown05 07:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, but I don't even know what the disagreement is about. Which to me means, go through dispute resolution, where the problem would be encapulated. -Edbrown05 08:54, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your preliminary work Chiacomo, which as usual is golden. I don't see a high urgency in this issue, but I feel a high urgency in my going to bed! Good night to u and all, ( and most recently BNZ, I must retire). -Edbrown05 09:19, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Copyvio at Howard's 10 year party gatecrashed
User:Goldiemicky says that s/he typed the initial article into the Wikinews window, meaning that it is licensed under CC-A 2.5, and Melbourne Indymedia have reused our content without attribution. I've removed the copyvio tag, please review. - Borofkin 03:08, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

RE: Toilet Article
I didnt see the other article. Thanks for pointing that out, I will look at merging them - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 07:53, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Jumping the gun
I strongly suspect both Brian New Zealand and I are jumping into /Workshop sections already, but we got some good work done this evening. I should be able to finish my sections tomorrow. I will see what evidence Brian is interested in locating tomorrow as well. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 09:23, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Format for evidence
note that the words directly below "ignore all rules" don't fit there and in your description re; first assertion you said "second" insertion. Neutralizer 21:11, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

spell in userbox arbitr.
moratorium is spelt moritorium in Requests_for_arbitration/Brian_New_Zealand_vs._Amgine/Workshop. cld u please fix it. thnx, Doldrums 07:14, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Recuse Request Statement
"The Arbitrator in question will seriously consider it and make a response."

 * Please read the appropriate policy; this issue is a part of the arbitration process. Also, please allow me aa little time to respond to your apparent attempt to subdue this request. Neutralizer 00:25, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * the policy refers to the possibility of an arbitrator being "required" to recuse themselves for non-trivial conflicts; This is non-trivial, therefore I expect all arbitrators to see this and consider this; not just CSpurrior. Also, perhaps you forget thatMindspillage, a Wikipedia arbitrator, mentioned that the main request page was a good spot to put it. Neutralizer 00:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Ok; I assume you have now read the short policy which mentions the word "required" in terms of recusal. If you have no intention of even considering whether CSpurrier should be recused, please tell me now. Also, I have read the comments of Mindspillage and he stated the primary request page is an appropriate spot. In addition, since there is so much "evidence" as to the appearance of bias, I feel that evidence should be on the evidence page. I truly can't see where it would interfere with your work. Neutralizer 01:18, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Chiacomo
Goodonya! For adding cats to the Protesters mark 3rd anniversary of Iraq invasion article! Buy you a beer mate...

This is my first time contributing to wikinews. I was curious as to how the publication process works? Thanks --Jbull14 06:47, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

This is my first time contributing to wikinews. I was curious as to how the publication process works? Thanks --Jbull14 06:49, 23 March 2006 (UTC) Jbull14

Thanks for the help --Jbull14 06:52, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Please ask CSpurrier to respond
Hey, friend, please address the recusal issue with CSpurrier (like you did with me)as he needs to respond right away. I sent him this note;

"Please repond to request for your recusal

Hey, please respond ASAP because the recusal policy Chiacomo showed me says; "The Arbitrator in question will seriously consider it and make a response."
 * In addition, the policy refers to the possibility of an arbitrator being "required" to recuse themselves for non-trivial matters. These are non-trivial bias indicators, therefore should you refuse the request; other Arbcom members will need time to decide whether the recusal is required. The request hit the site at 01:14, 22 March 2006 so hopefully you can respond right away.
 * Your bias is palpable,I think, as shown by the list of indicators (including your 6 month block of me and your on the record comments as to MrM's general innocence.:"... I believe the primary reason for this RfDA and the other attacks on MrM are not his actions on the site but that he holds an unpopular and somewhat odd :) political view --Cspurrier 23:45, 8 December 2005 (UTC)")
 * Policy requires you to respond before arbitration begins so please do not leave the community waiting amy longer. Thanks in advance." so hopefully that will get some results."

 * As you have been diligent in managing the process of the arbitrations, I am asking you to help make sure that the recusal policy is abided by since it is part and parcel of the arbitration process. Thanks so much, Neutralizer 14:11, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

cat monger!
Gotcha on that point! and agree that he who chases a category, please chase the categories all the way :) -Edbrown05 07:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Welcome messages
That makes sense :) I will add that template to my list :) Thanks :) Jason Safoutin 02:21, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, I usually send welcome messages to those IP addy's who usually make a good edit. I also use with those IP's that vandalize or test...should I use  ? Jason Safoutin 02:24, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I am keeping my username
It is the only one that describes my best. SeniorWikiNewsReporter 00:09, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

 * It is not confusing, it is an extremely accurate username. If I used anything else, then users would be confused!!!

I do, I am a senior reporter with an account. Most reporters don't have an account!!! SeniorWikiNewsReporter 00:19, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I'll think about it. SeniorWikiNewsReporter 00:23, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry...
I am a perfectionist and I went crazy when I read that guys article. SeniorWikiNewsReporter 00:38, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Frugalware
I noticed your push for top-level regional categories and fully support it. Then I look at Frugalware Linux Pushes Forward story which sort of denies to be identified with any particular region. So, just leave it blank? Or other thoughts you might have? -Edbrown05 06:11, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Topic categories are not Portal Pages... that's a new realization to me since I hadn't given it a thought, but that fact makes a difference if news article counts records are being made on the basis of Portal Page articles. It would leave a slim % of published stories uncounted.

 * I know that talk of region Portal "World" was passed around and ended no where.

 * I want to look into the ArbCom stuff tonight and am happy to let that sleeping dog above lie. -Edbrown05 06:29, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Are you OK?
I just read on CNN that there was a devestating tornado in your area. I hope you and your loved ones are OK. --Deprifry|+T+ 16:55, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

UserBox finding by ArbCom
Yesterday, Linuxerist asked me if UserBoxes are allowed here. I answered him, but couldn't locate the page for the finding by ArbCom. The finding should be posted somewhere, at a minimum on the ArbCom page, or incorporated into the policy pages.

Firstly, can you provide me with the link to the committee finding (that would save me searching). Secondly, thoughts on posting it to policies. -Edbrown05 04:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

oops
ok; thanks for alert. Neutralizer 02:16, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration
In light of recent events, I'm not sure it's necessary; however, I do think that there is occasionally some merit to accepting arbitration against the will of main actors in the dispute when they hurt the community as a whole. Ral315 (talk) 06:39, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

what's happened to the 'submit a story page'?
It's a monster looking thing (in the date section) since the last I've submitted a new story. -Edbrown05 06:15, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

WN:ALERT link
Thanks for the diff link to that revision. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 21:17, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Crash article
Hi,

I'll add the sources. Do you have MSN?

Requests for arbitration/Users Cartman02au et al v Mrmiscellanious
It seems that little has happened with the case over the past few weeks. Is it possible that it be wrapped up shortly?-Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 23:09, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I've participated in this as far as my concerns and interests for the community allow me to go. There will be no further involvement in it from myself. -Edbrown05 07:28, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I took a route on this that was surprising to myself. I would abstain on the vote of closing it if I did anything, which is more than I will do, because I already said I wouldn't. -Edbrown05 06:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Yeah, it is problematic to not vote, or abstain, as you say Chiacomo. I came as close to recusing myself from this as I possibly could come, without actually doing so. Hopefully MrM can find some satisfaction in that.

 * The trouble I created for myself is this, if I opposed themotion to close, it would necessarily re-involve me to explain why. I wouldn't simply rubber stamp the motion...

 * I gotta get moving, and this is talk that won't influence the outcome... -Edbrown05 14:50, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

 * ... so, if I were to recuse myself, then any vote I made on this should be removed... at least that is my current thinking. And I also look at it in the context of, if MrM is community voted to be de-admined (per a voting guideline of this case that a reconfirmation vote will occur), then if MrM fails to be reconfirmed, the perma-ban of Cowicide imposed by MrM could possibly go away (under some similar principle)? In other words, is there a retro-active thing going on with this? -Edbrown05 08:24, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Spanish-language version of U.S. anthem stirs controversy
Again, thanks for contributing to Wikinews! The article you've edited, Spanish-language version of U.S. anthem stirs controversy, was published on April 29. According to WN:NOT, Wikinews articles are not works in progress -- basically, once the article is published the only changes should be grammar/spelling correction or perhaps categories. This is frustrating at times (for me at least) because there may be additional information that I want to add. If there is new information, it is best to create a new article. DragonFire1024 reverted, I think, based on this principle. Please do let me know if I can assist you in any way and, again, welcome to Wikinews! --Chiacomo (talk) 02:08, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the quick and insightful response. I think I get it now! Best wishes. Rossp 02:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)rossp

Question
OK, I made a comment here:

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:U.S._claims_of_Iraqi_bioweapons_labs_contradicted_in_classified_Pentagon_report_filed_on_27_May_2003

to which there has been no reply. You say you concern yourself with NPOV issues (an almost thankless job, but I thank you so it isn't completely thankless.) That's the subject mattter of my comments.

I think there's a difference between "the Cubs are the best baseball team ever" type statements and "2 + 2 = 4" type statements. I don't think NPOV requires tolerance or careful stepping around the "2 + 2 = 5" crowd. NPOV doesn't promote nonsense to an equal footing with sense. Does it?

Similarly, and more likely to matter, I think it is proper to say "intelligent design isn't science" (it's philosophy if it's anything.) I don't say philosophy is bad or need be suppressed - but I do say philosophy doesn't "trump" or supplant science. When it comes to what is to be taught in science classes philosophy simply isn't pertinent. Intellignet design may, to some, be fabulous philosophy or may have concepts that they find to be valid. That's "valid" outside science and what matters most, as far as science is concerned, is what is inside science.

The same thing goes for the fables about mobile WMD laboratories in Iraq. There is zero evidence for them. The "evidence" that did exist was pure spculation on the part of some in the US and pure fable (which might have been largely repeating slightly altered US speculation to the Germans who then passed it on to the US. All the arguments in favor of there having been such things in Iraq are based on assuming that the claims were based on the best evidence available at the time.  That's not so.  Those who looked at the trailers and considered the evidence on the trailers concluded the trailers were for hydrogen manufacture.  What was on the trailers was the best evidence.  The WMD claims were supported by expanding what was considered to include speculation and questionable "defector intelligence" (from "Curveball.")  When the CIA/DIA white paper was issued the best evidence was what was found on the trailers.  What was found on the trailers did not support the WMD claims.

The reaction used to make hydrogen is one involving water, aluminum, and lye and when the white paper itself reports aluminum and lye were found on the trailers (water being so commonplace that no analysis is needed) it's clear, from the white paper itself, that the trailers were for making hydrogen. When the white paper disguises the lye by calling it "caustic" it's pretty likely that was done consciously, in order to avoid directly admitting that the two major components needed for the reaction to make hydrogen were found on the trailers. Not only does the best evidence show the trailers were for making hydrogen, the white paper shows that there was a deliberate intent to deny that truth. That truth is now accepted by the administration. There is no administration support for the WMD claims made for the trailers. The NPOV has to reflect that administration admission that the trailers were for making hydrogen - anything else is not NPOV.

The Duelfer report identifies the so-called "caustic" as being lye (sodium hydroxide.) The NPOV has to reflect that "caustic" was a deceptive word for "lye."

Thanks for your time.

Minasbeede 21:20, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Rfda
This is a message to inform you that I have added every administrator to the Rfda section on WN:A. This is not personal and I feel as if the community, who did not have the option of voting for or against most of the administrators, should be able to choose who they want to be in charge. I also want to say that I value everyones work on this site and I know that everyone does their best. I hope that none of you will take this personally and I hope that all of us will continue to work together. Jason Safoutin 12:09, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Net skills to be taught by kids
Can you change the image from .png to .svg. I find Wikinews' auto-protect policy a little odd, as it doesn't allow later categorisation, link fixes etc. Ed g2s 17:13, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
I cannot thank you enough for agreeing to work towards resolution. Hopefully we can find a solution that pleases DragonFire1024 and everyone else. — THIS IS M ESSED OCKER  (TALK) 02:57, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

ur Brian New Zealand vote
reads "Comment", but the comment appears to be imply "Support". cld u take a look. thanks, Doldrums 05:38, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, just thought i shld point it out. Doldrums 05:46, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

cgi:irc
I'm getting connection refused at the moment... User:Amgine 18:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC) (not on the usual machine, so not logged in, and frustrated about it too! )

Thanks.
Thanks for helping out with the article I’m working on. Do you think it's developed enough to publish? MyName 00:44, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, thanks for the regional catagories fix. MyName

CheckUser
Hi! You are now a checkuser here. Please apply to checkuser-l, the international checkuser mailing list (this is mandatory). Jon Harald Søby 21:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Bureaucrat
I would like to nominate you for Beurocrat. I think you'd make a good Berocrat. Do you accept? Bawolff ☺☻ 03:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I will accept, though I'm not sure we really need another bureaucrat. --Chiacomo (talk) 03:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

To make things right
As a part of ArbCom you have selected and approved some users to do CheckUser permissions. This is done without any discussions, nominations or selection by Wikinews community. ArbComs part in this is not stated in any policy on Wikinews and this speedy and unauthoriced process can be seen as instructioncreeping. A fair posision in this case is to accept Wikimedia Foundation demand for allowing CheckUser permissions. It is that ArbCom approve them.

In ArbCom You now have selected these users. That is not a within ArbComs authotity. Whats done is a mistake and can easy be corrected by ArbCom. Declare this decision open and ask the community to select these users. The selection process is a buissnes for the whole Wikinews community and should be done by voting.

I must point to the importance of this. As I wrote in water cooler this can be a first step to make ArbCom to a kind of goverment body and this is not whats decided. I will go so far as to question the status of those of you, that dont work against a community based selection in this case, as elected representative in ArbCom or in worst case raise the question of ArbComs abolishing.

I hope that you solve this problem and make things right and dont put prestige in this in itself small thing. international 22:08, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Off to dig in the bilge
I was going to work here just until the boatique opened up at 10am... but it's 11:15 and I'm just going to head back and get to work... I got all involved and stuff. Anyway, I left a big RFCU for someone to get to. Sorry about piling work on the CheckUsers, but it would be good to clear Neutralizer's name if this morning's events weren't by him (they don't quite fit his style, but they're not completely different either.) I should be back in Canada this evening. - Amgine 18:14, 11 June 2006 (UTC) (editing not logged in)

My Response
Okay. Here’s my response to your “notice.” : You say “It's generally acceptable to abbreviate country names in headlines” but when I was looking through stories being worked on, “South Africa” was spelled out in full S-O-U-T-H A-F-R-I-C-A, instead of just S.A, like The United States of America was so humbly abbreviated. So instead of giving a insignificant African nation more respect than the great United States of America, I edited the title, along with the title of Great Britain. If you have a problem with this I suggest you stay true and consistent (I know that’s redundant) to your word and abbreviate South Africa, S.A., just like everything else. All right?

Crownie 03:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * All Right, thats a good point I'll leave it that way. Crownie 03:56, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Congratulations on achieving Bureaucrat status! — THIS IS M ESSED OCKER  (TALK) 20:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

bureaucrat
Congratulations, you are now a bureaucrat--Cspurrier 20:27, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I beat you to it, craigs! — THIS IS M ESSED [[Image:R with umlaut.png]] OCKER (TALK) 20:28, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Let's have an orgy of celebration in honor of the Fourth Bureaucrat of the English Wikinews! — THIS IS M ESSED [[Image:R with umlaut.png]] OCKER (TALK) 20:28, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Congratulations from me too...! :-) Frankie Roberto 22:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. --Chiacomo (talk) 22:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Blocked!
Why I am not blocked yet? I thought this was a troll account! Can a woman still block me?

Neutralizer 3rr title violation
Here

On the day after concensus reached. Against protests in discussion. Ealturner 13:06, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Please also note Neutralise "NPOV'd" this article. There were no complaints for hours before the article was made top headline.

Neutralizer calls the title "Totally 1 sided as well as inflammatory and sensationalist"

The title is "Israeli railroad station bombed. 8 killed, 23 injured"

Please do something about this individual. He is making work impossible. I don't want to leave but I will not take much more of this. Ealturner 13:34, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

image deletion
would you please be so kind and delete Image:Allende.jpg because there's no source given and w:en:Image:Allende 9 11 73.jpg got the fair use license.

regarding Tomos lockedout
Hi. Thank you for your time and attention for the matter. The account Tomos_locked_out! is fake. I (Tomos) was never locked out. Tomos 08:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

thanks...
i can feel my head swelling already. :) Doldrums 05:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

IRC ping
was to bring this to ur notice. Doldrums 16:56, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

.

P.A.
I didn;t start any personal attacks.He started it but it's on a different site.--Cute 1 4 u 04:41, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

But he told me to send him attacks. it's the truth.--Cute 1 4 u 05:06, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Nominees for ArbCom election
I understand that the ArbCom election is a couple of weeks away, but when can people be nominated? —     04:41, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Accreditation
Thanks! If you could email me a card that would be great! robertlehrer@gmail.com Crimson 18:00, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipress ID Card
Hi, how do I get my id card? Could you please email one to robertlehrer@gmail.com ? Thanks Crimson 17:44, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Requesting immediate rename of accounts
Hello Chiacomo, seeing as you're a bureaucrat, I'd like you to immediately rename the following accounts: These are impersonates of established Wikipedia users, and they have only been used for vandalism. Please rename them. —     11:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

A Couple Of Things
1) Would you mind doing me a favor? Check this out, and leaving some thoughts on my talk page?

RE: Accreditation
sorry to bother you, but if you could update accredited users page to match my ID Card. Thanks! terinjokes User Page / Talk 02:41, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Problem viewing Images
When I use IE7 I can see pics. Conversly, using Opera I cant't. Do you know what is going on? Thanks -New Newsie 21:32, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

 * P.S. I asked FellowWikinews this question and he just reverted -RUDE. New Newsie 21:32, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, I reverted because of this and this. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  21:48, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

$$$
what's a billion or a million b/w friends :) — Doldrums(talk) 06:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Images from CNN-IBN-live
Some time ago there was a discussion about using their stories... but can we use their images as fair use?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 17:07, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

AWN
hey chiacomo, i forgot to include it in my email, so I hope you check here. Audio Wikinews Newsline terinjokes User Page / Talk 22:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

good to see you arround
havn't seen you arround recently (although I havn't been here to much either), good to see you back. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:44, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas! == ==

Merry Christmas! Wishing you all the best for the forthcoming year. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:03, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

User photos
Please review this discussion: Water_cooler/policy.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 14:51, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

cgi chat
Bawolff told me to contact you, regarding the irc chat you have set up for wikinews. can you take a look here? Waldir 22:05, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

OS &CU
After the mild debate on ALERT, I have been bold and proposed this could you please have a look over, and sign if you agree Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 10:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Admin
Mark is still waiting to be made up after a successful RfA. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:06, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

use of Chat room content on Wikinews
I remember a conversation from over a year ago where you had some serious opposition to the use of chat content on Wikinews. Current thoughts? -Edbrown05 05:52, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Not that it matters now, but I wouldn't oppose that use of chat-room content... Generally, it's considered bad form and against policy (though I've not checked for updates) to post chat-logs from freenode to the Wiki. --Chiacomo (talk) 03:12, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The feeling I get is that it is all fair game. How can one connect the dots when user names mask identity? You can't. Would this mean you can't do anything? I think not.

If all you have at the scene of the post is the thought, then aren't those thoughts, no matter in what forum, "reportable"? Surely they are. And is the thought of someone whose online name is "Whatever", not also 'reportable'? If not, I wonder at what kind of internet we have. -Edbrown05 07:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Where Are You?
Just wondering whats been up. Have not seen you around. Hope you come back soon :) DragonFire1024 23:35, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Portal:Football
I registered today because I saw that Portal:Football was very out of date. I have written a few articles so far today and will do every day to keep this updated. I was thinking of an idea though but I wanted to ask a sysop first.

Could we 'employ' users to be football writers for their team. So if this goes ahead there would be a group of users per team who will write up the latest news and match reports for Wikinews. The team links would be Portal:Football/LeagueName/ClubName. So for Celtic it'd be Portal:Football/SPL/Celtic. If you go to Portal:Football you will see that the fixture list has been updated, the featured results has been updated and that I am going to start a major revamp of Portal:Football. I am going to ask Dark Squall to help me as most of his contributions are football related topics.

Thanks. Please send your comments to me ASAP. Celticfan383 01:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

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NASA asks home Internet users to help process data mined from Stardust probe +++ Almost 200 injured and 44 dead when a passenger train carrying at least 250 people derails in Serbia-Montenegro, falling into a ravine +++ Conservatives win minority government in Canada's federal elections +++ Steven Harper named as successor to incumbent Canadian PM Paul Martin

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Talk:Huge star cluster discovered in neighbourhood of Milky Way

Wikipedia AfC on Jan 13 2006

 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation&oldid=35078939

 * The sources are, however, the ones that are given in the article. Uncle G 11:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)


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Canadian federal elections underway

January 24, 2006

The last polls in the have closed in, and so far reporting polls are indicating a  lead, which would end a 12 year long  Government in Canada.

Currently all major TV news networks including CBC have projected a minority government for Harper's Conservatives with the last of BC's polls to decide just how big it will be.

Election results from reporting polls are below. Please note these include figures from those leading in polls, so these results could be subject to decreases as well.

This early election stemmed from the ruling Liberal Party government's loss in a motion of no confidence. The Liberal government has faced strong opposition from the, Conservatives and as a result of an embarrassing sponsorship scandal.

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Talk:Canadian federal elections underway

That's very awkward wording: "7am-7pm in their local time zones today"

It works better when you describe which time zone you're talking about. Voting was from 9:30 am to 9:30 pm in EST, for example.

Can someone who know's more about tables change the colours used here? The Bloc's colours are light blue, not grey, and the conservatives use a much darker blue. Mylesmalley

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Created Conservative party wins minority government in Canada -- it's currently in develop. Please use this later and as front page article.


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Conservative party wins minority government in Canada

January 24, 2006

Stephen Harper's Conservatives have won a minority government in Canada with most stations reporting at this time. The Conservatives' win ends 12 years of a Liberal government plagued by allegations of scandals in recent months.

Most major Canadian TV networks began to project a Conservative win at approx 3:30 a.m. UTC

Below are the current results for polls reporting, which are still subject to frequent change. Please note this includes both officially elected and leading candidates at this time.

This ends an unusually bitter campaign, with the Conservative and Liberals both launching harsh attack commercials against each other.

In response to the defeat, former prime minister Paul Martin has stepped down as leader of the Liberal party.

This early election stemmed from the ruling Liberal Party government's loss in a motion of no confidence. The Liberal government has faced strong opposition from the NDP, Conservatives and Bloc Québécois as a result of an embarrassing sponsorship scandal.

East
In Quebec, the Bloc Québécois won the great majority of seats, 51 with 42,7% of the votes, the Conservatives won 10 seats with 24,6% while the Liberals faced a wall by getting only 20,7% of the votes, which gave them 13 seats at the Parliament, down by eight from the last election. In Portneuf-Jacques-Cartier, the radio animator André Arthur was also elected as the only successful independent candidate in Canada.

BC
In the Vancouver Island North riding, incumbent John Duncan has been defeated by NDP member and now first time MP Catherine Bell. In the previous 2004 election Bell lost by a mere 483 votes to Duncan. This could be seen as quite an upset to Duncan, who has been in power in this riding for several years and was likely to be in Stephen Harper's cabinet as he was part of Harpers shadow cabinet during the Conservatives time as opposition. Bell won this election by just 1.11%.


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Julian McGauran defects from Australian National Party

January 24, 2006

Australian National Party senator Julian McGauran left the party in order to join the Australian Liberal Party. McGauran has made comments to the effect of stating that the Liberals have the best chance of representing regional Australia.

The Prime Minister John Howard has said that McGauran was not "poached", over suspicions in relation to an upcoming frontbench reshuffle, and the Federal Treasurer Peter Costello welcomed McGauran's defection, with suspicion he may have orchestrated the move in order to bolster his leadership prospects.

Many Nationals felt hurt; Victorian Nationals leader Peter Ryan called his move the "ultimate act of treachery".

His House of Representatives brother Peter McGauran remains in the National Party.

Related news

 * Julian McGauran makes rude gesture to Australian Senate


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Talk:U.S. army interrogator convicted in Iraqi general's death

murder
The article explains that he was not conviced of "murder", but "negligent homicide". The title should reflect the facts, so I suggest changing it back (with the apostrophe) as it is factually correct that way and not quite as long as replacing "murder" by "negligent homicide". --vonbergm 05:20, 24 January 2006 (UTC)


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No jail for army interrogator over death of Iraqi general

January 24, 2006

Chief Warrant Officer Lewis E. Welshofer Jr. of the U.S. Army's 3d Cavalry Regiment will not have to serve any jail time for his involvement in the death of Iraqi Maj. Gen. Abed Hamed Mowhoush during an interrogation. The Iraqi general died after Welshofer shoved the general head-first into a sleeping bag, sat on him and occasionally covered the generals mouth with his hands.

On Saturday, a jury consisting of six military officers acquitted him of murder and assault charges, but found him guilty of negligent homicide and negligent dereliction of duty, charges that carry a combined maximum sentence of 3 years and 3 months. On Monday the military jurors handed down the verdict involving no prison time but imposed a $6000 fine and restricted his movements between work, worship and his barracks for 60 days.

This sentence stands in stark contrast to that of lower ranking army personal convicted for mistreatment of detainees at the Abu-Ghraib prison. Although none of the victims considered in the Abu-Ghraib cases died, the sentences handed down were significantly harsher, with former corporal Charles A. Graner Jr. serving 10 years in federal prison, former staff sergeant Ivan L. "Chip" Frederick II was serving 8 1/2 years and former private first class Lynndie R. England serving three years.

Before taking effect, the sentence must be approved by Maj. Gen. Robert W. Mixon, who cannot order a harsher sentence but may reduce it or set it aside entirely.


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Talk:Witnesses of fire in Vladivostok under investigation

Colon in headline means a quote
When you put a colon in the headline you are attributing a quote. Vladivostok is a place, not a person or organisation that can express an opinion. I feel like a broken record on this issue. Perhaps the style guide in the headline section should address this? 24.94.246.41 07:00, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Title of this article should be "Witnesses of fire in Vladivostok under investigation" GD 08:02, 24 January 2006 (UTC)


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Abu Gharib comparison
Firstly, let me say that I do not think it's inappropriate to mention abu-gharib here -- it's an interesting point imo. But there is definitely a slight of hand here, an in-congruency if you will. See if you can pick it out ;)

Welshofer got a light sentence for being convicted of a crime that carries a maximum sentence of roughly 3 years.

Graner got 10 years and Fredrick got 8 years.

Do you see the problem with this? While the comparison is interesting, I think there is some context that is conveniently missing. 24.94.246.41 07:11, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

 * There is more background in the "realted news" article, did not want to repeat the whole story. I believe that the comparison is quite justified. Although there were no sexual connotation of Welshofer's actions, they were by far more violent (in general and in this case) and lead to death. The initial charges included murder and assault, carrying maximum sentence of life in prison. But these charges were thrown out by the same jury that handed down the sentence that was extremely light even considering only the remaining charges. --vonbergm 16:17, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

background source
this washpost article has some background on the incident. Doldrums 08:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

what else do you expect from americians?


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Australian Prime Minister announces results of reshuffle

January 24, 2006

The Australian Prime Minister John Howard announced the results of an earlier anticipated reshuffle of the Government cabinet.

Brendan Nelson, previously of the Education portfolio, who introduced the controversial Voluntary Student Unionism legislation late 2005, has been promoted to the Defence portfolio. Malcolm Turnbull, who had been in the media several times in 2005 regarding tax law, is now a parliamentary secretary, as is Andrew Robb.

The Treasurer Peter Costello, Foreign Affairs minister Alexander Downer, and Health minister Tony Abbott remain unchanged. With former Nationals senator Julian McGauran's defection to the Liberal Party, Nationals Veterans Affairs minister De-Anne Kelly has lost her place, in reflection of the new Coalition numbers, with Bruce Billson taking up the job.

The Opposition has commented on the reshuffle, with Opposition Leader Kim Beazley stating that the Cabinet consists of "old faces" from the "uninspired to the incompetent".


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Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Halfakers. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Halfakers~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:15, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:32, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

title: User talk:Halfakers~enwikinews