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Perspective on moving images to Commons
I get the impression you're keen to move images to Commons whenever it appears to be permissible. Why? Seems to me in most such cases there's no advantage to it and, at best, some mild disadvantages. There is some non-zero chance such an image might get used on some other project once on Commons, but in most cases that's unlikely unless they found out about it from its use here, and in that case they could request the move or do it themselves. On the other hand, every time we do it we increase our exposure to risk of unreasonable behavior by Commons (we've been burned repeatedly by that); and since the local image is, to my understanding, still on wikimedia servers (must be, since it's possible to undelete it later), it's just using twice as much wikimedian server space by having two copies, one (deleted) here and one on Commons. --Pi zero (talk) 22:34, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm keen to copy files to whenever possible; files are used on other projects (one Wikinews related file that used to be locally hosted here is on de:Hauptseite, for example). Deleting on this end is less of an issue; I just think that it should be the norm as opposed to the exception, that is, only if there's a reason.
 * There's mild disadvantages (files deleted from under us, although presumably Commons users should and do know better than to do so) and mild advantages (single file description, better integration with other projects, better image categorization). Trying to work within (and interacting with) the Wikimedia ecosystem makes it more likely that those users will support our future endeavours, for example.
 * My thinking is that file photos should almost always use a Commons copy, because it doesn't really matter which picture of Barack Obama is used in an article; whereas photos that are the focus of an article could be uploaded on both ends – although that shouldn't be a review requirement.
 * I've been using now-commons to signify that there's a commons copy in addition to the local copy; the template assumes that we should therefore delete (it is a WN:CSD, so we probably should think about changing that policy to fit more in line with actual practice). I think my proposal near the end of the current thread on WN:WC/P Special:Permalink/2601106 is a good one in this regard. Microchip08 (talk) 00:28, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

 * I don't follow what you're saying about categories, which seems like it may be significant... though significant in what way, toward what practice, I really can't tell yet, especially since I don't yet even know whether what you're trying to say is something I'd agree with, or not. You seem to be saying something about categorization on Commons versus on Wikinews, but I'm not sure what the distinction is nor under what circumstances it applies.  Could you explain a bit more (and perhaps I'll catch on)?

 * On a side note, although I've no difficulty with the proposition that Commons users should know better, it's a fact that they don't, and therefore patently a mistake to presume that they do. --Pi zero (talk) 00:40, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * No, it's not particularly significant or relevant; it merely lets us outsource categories to Commons (as we don't really have the framework for categorising images on Wikinews, as far as I can tell). Anyhow, we should copy files to Commons; not moving them isn't something I'm particularly bothered enough about to fight against. We do need to change our policies accordingly, though. Microchip08 (talk) 23:43, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

 * I really don't know where you're coming from on this. And I want to.

 * You say the categories thing isn't relevant and then turn around and say you don't think we have... something, to do with categories. You're saying we don't have something, but what?  Please be clear.

 * You're asserting we should chance our policies. Sigh.  I'd say Commons should change their policies, but the problem isn't, bluntly, their policies but their failure over the long term to follow them.  --Pi zero (talk) 00:09, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
 * (Okay, their policies aren't altogether flawless. But the bigger problem is following them.)  --Pi zero (talk) 00:10, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

File:Anni 4.jpg
The page explicitly links to the image source, which explicitly releases the image under a non-commercial Creative Commons license. It doesn't need a fair-use rationale, despite the inapt phrasing of the template Amgine used in 2011. There's no question the image belongs here; if there's anything to be done, it's to improve on Amgine's choice of template. --Pi zero (talk) 03:14, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Please understand that I am using the missing fair use rationale template to identify problem images (i.e. ones that need fixing at an undefined point in the future), not to tag them for deletion (although technically it is a deletion category, but no admin is planning to go on a deletion spree). The image does belong on Wikinews, but it's a non-free image, so needs a non-free rationale ("fair-use rationale" is a misnomer), and therefore is a problem image that would benefit from being placed into the tracking category for someone to eventually get round to fixing. Please consider re-adding the template. Microchip08 (talk) 10:04, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
 * So. The page doesn't say quite the right words, therefore it ought to be tracked.  But the template you're using to track it says the wrong thing.  Where we're still differing, if I follow this rightly, is in whether it's more objectionable to not have it tracked or to have it incorrectly tagged for deletion.  We seemingly agree that both courses are objectionable, just not on which objectionable course is worse.  Lovely.  The "obvious" way out would be to create a third way, a separate tracking category for this sort of situation, but the act of creating this third way is itself objectionable because the devices for keeping track are getting too complicated for an admin to keep track of (can't decide whether that's a pun, or just a profound truth).

 * The whose situation seems to beautifully illustrate what I've been saying about expertise management: The situation calls for applying expertise that the users maintaining it, even though in this case they'd have to be admins, absolutely shouldn't be required to hold in their heads.  There should be cradle-to-grave semi-automated assistance for the situation, and there's loads of little such things all over a wiki so it's not practical to write javascript (or php or even lua) for every one of them.  This sort of semi-automated assistance should be treated as an output of the wiki community in the same sense as the end-content produced, therefore should be coded using wiki markup.  Leaving, of course, the triple threat of developing tools to allow it to be done in wiki markup, developing strategies to use the tools effectively, and using the strategies to develop the semi-automated assistance for any particular situation such as this.  --Pi zero (talk) 11:35, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

missing image
What was your reasoning on ? I'm unclear on how you see Category:Pages with broken file links playing into it. --Pi zero (talk) 22:22, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Category:Pages with broken file links is automatically populated by the Mediawiki software from, as far as I can see, any page with a red link to an image, regardless of whether it's an image ( [[File:Foo.png]]) or a link to an image (File:Foo.png) ; but what we(?) want to use that tracking category for is for articles with missing images that don't have a missing image replacement. At the moment, 'Last Ottoman' dies at age 97 is in there, even though the problem is "fixed" — linking directly to Commons removes the redlink, and hopefully will take it out of the category, which will solely be populated by "unfixed" articles, like Partizan Belgrade kicked out of 2007/08 UEFA Cup (permalink).

 * Essentially, I want to remove the pages in Category:Pages with missing-image template calls from Category:Pages with broken file links, because they are (for Wikinews purposes) merely noise clouding the useful autogenerated backlog. Microchip08 (talk) 22:43, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
 * (Maybe we'd lose something by not linking directly to the file, but I'd wager that nobody would click the links anyway [especially considering the useful links adjacent].) Microchip08 (talk) 22:44, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Huh? Pages should not be removed from Category:Pages with broken file links just because they have a missing image template call on them.  The template is not supposed to remove the page from that list, unless of course a template parameter is used to indicate that somebody has looked into it and there's really no chance of fixing the problem.  The point of the template is to make the page look neater without removing it from Category:Pages with broken file links, and the point of Category:Pages with missing-image template calls is to facilitate listing all pages with broken file links that do not yet use the template, so that someone who wants to take care of some administrative backlog can add the template to pages in the difference.  --Pi zero (talk) 00:24, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Missing fair use rationale
Please stop 'abusing' this template!

Of a handful of File: pages I've looked at where you have applied this, there is all the required information to complete an appropriate rationale template. It is on that basis that I consider your use of the template abusive; you're the only person asserting work is 'urgently' required, and that the default should be to assume material should be deleted. As I have noted from reviewed File: pages, you could almost as-easily be resolving what you see as a problem.

I would prefer not to have to use AWB, or knock together a bot, to undo every edit you've made that adds this template; however, I will do so if you ignore this request. The matter is under discussion on the Water Cooler, and it would be more-appropriate to resolve and clarify relevant guidelines and policies before further 'tag-n-dash'. Such does absolutely nothing whatsoever to resolve what is a 'book-keeping' task of low priority in meeting the project goals. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:19, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't think I have ever asserted that it is an urgent issue; wikis don't have deadlines (mainspace aside). I think we have differing views as to what "required information" is. I randomly picked a few current edits from my contributions (whilst being somewhat surprised by the inability of most government websites to archive properly):
 * File:Anni 4.jpg — generic image with no justification
 * File:Waleed Almouallem, Foreign Minister of Syria, to H.E. Mr. Kofi Annan, UN Special Envoy to Syria A letter dated 12-8-2012 .pdf — zero context, orphaned
 * File:ThaiImmigration20071011 W60.jpg — unjustified no rationale templating, okay.
 * File:Stash Inside Mango Puree.jpg — needs rationale as to why we need the full image and not a resize
 * File:Private Joel Vincent Wiebe.jpg — unjustified
 * File:Mitch-benn-is-number-one-amazon-rock-download.pdf — essentially "it's fair use because I'm using it"
 * File:193px-University of Wollongong.png — not eligible for fair use, but asserted

I think my additions of fair use orphan and image-source are more justified. Microchip08 (talk) 17:49, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Discretionary mainspace redirects
The word was chosen in allusion to Category:Discretionary mainspace redirects — mainspace redirects that may be kept or deleted at admins' discretion. We'd had some acrimony over when redirects could be deleted, given that (so I'm told) deleting a redirect is a relatively expensive operation on the database, so we established a clear set of criterion for when speedy deletion is allowed and enshrined it in the speedy criteria, then began on the current program of categorizing (and protecting) all the redirects in mainspace. (Of which there are roughly the same number as their are articles, I believe — approaching 20k.) Eventually, we should have every redirect in mainspace clearly labeled as to whether or not it could be speedy-deleted at an admin's discretion. --Pi zero (talk) 20:31, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Any ideas what to do with these? Microchip08 (talk) 05:09, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, a redirect created by moving an article out of mainspace is automatically eligible for speed deletion, though I think I've always had to write out that reason by hand because it wasn't on the menu. A redirect for a Wikinewsie's name, such as Cary Bass or U:BRS, should be fully protected and then put in both Category:Non-news mainspace redirects and Category:Protected mainspace redirects (and oughtn't be put in that last until both of the other things have been done, because the protected cat is how we keep track of whether a mainspace redirect has been fully dealt with).  The list is only 93, I see; that's not too bad, especially in contrast to the total backlog of unprocessed mainspace redirects, which I think is about fifteen thousand atm (started around eighteen thousand, we've added some since then, and we've processed about three and a half thousand).  --Pi zero (talk) 10:54, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see there's a Category:Mainspace redirects to userspace subcat of Category:Non-news mainspace redirects. Okay, I stand corrected.  --Pi zero (talk) 11:11, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Oppose?
Just noticing that you put up an oppose vote on the ArbComm election. Arbitration Committee/2014 election says this is a support only election. You might want to move the relevent comments to the comment bit. --RockerballAustralia contribs 11:01, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I've moved it (being an admin, which the above-linked rules allow to strike oppose votes). --Pi zero (talk) 11:39, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Accreditation requests/Microchip08 (2)
I've closed as successful. --Pi zero (talk) 22:46, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
 * If you confirm you've an email address associated and verified against your account here, I'll use that to send you @wikinewsie.org credentials. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:33, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Special:Emailuser/Microchip08.  if you feel paranoid. Microchip08 (talk) 10:30, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

PizzaGate
Dude, I was just adding the source. What's the hurry?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andre.levy.al (talk • contribs)
 * Thank you for your contributions to Wikinews. Unfortunately, we're unable to accept anything copy and pasted from other websites without the original content producer's permission. It's alright to reference outside sources, but verbatim copy-and-pastes are not allowed, so we had to delete it. You're welcome -- and encouraged -- to write an article as long as it is phrased in an original manner and otherwise obliges with our other rules. You'll find the links at the top of your talk page helpful. Microchip08 (talk) 05:23, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

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Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Thoreau. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Thoreau~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:22, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

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User talk:Rene000000

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User talk:Teejayrulz

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User talk:IndyVoter

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User talk:Gator64~enwikinews

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Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Gator64. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Gator64~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:17, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
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User talk:Rich Lem

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User talk:Jonathan

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User talk:Zanoi

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User talk:JW159~enwikinews

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Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called JW159. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name JW159~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:19, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
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User talk:Lubek83

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User talk:Haus

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User talk:Alexjohnc3

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User talk:Ugozima~enwikinews

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Your account will be renamed
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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Ugozima. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Ugozima~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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User talk:Arizona wildcat07

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Comments:Obama projected winner in North Carolina primary, Indiana too early to call

God this thing drags on --82.35.192.193 02:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

who ever wins
we all lose --66.229.18.245 03:38, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


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User talk:Ice54~enwikinews

Welcome
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Your account will be renamed
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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Ice54. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Ice54~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:19, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
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Comments:Obama projected winner in North Carolina primary, Clinton wins Indiana by narrow margin

Why is there only a photo of Obama; both candidates won a primary.

Go Obama! --83.187.199.14 12:05, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I enjoy seeing the democrats divided like this, makes i easy for McCain to win the general election. I can't say I agree about everything with him but i'll vote for him to keep Hilary or Obama out of the whitehouse, I'd hate to see how bad things would be with one of them as president.--Ryan524 - (talk) 15:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

pretty typical to see a republican/conservative enjoying divisiveness. and how bout those ad homs? good stuff, my friend. -Imind - (talk) 19:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


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Wikinews:CommonsTicker/20080507

7 May

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User talk:76.100.25.133

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Talk:Death toll from cyclone in Myanmar continues to rise

Death Toll now 50,000
50,000 dead and expected to rise past 80,000 DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 10:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi. Take a look at this Wikipedia page. It's possible that even 100,000 may be a "very conservative" estimate for the death toll, as 80,000 were reported dead in one town alone. Also, there are some references in that article that may be helpful in further updates of this one. Thanks. AstroHurricane-007 - (talk) 22:14, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

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Remove Category:European Union please. Jolly Ω Janner  18:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

 * ❌ I'm not completely sure why you want this to be removed. The European Union is mentioned in the article; therefore, a category for it is warranted. Tempodivalse [talk]  01:50, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


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Explosion in Chelmsford, Essex

May 7, 2008

An explosion in an electricity substation in Chelmsford, Essex has killed one person. Buildings have been evacuated and residents have been advised to stay inside to avoid fumes. The blast occurred at approximately 12:15 p.m. local time, near Anglia Ruskin University.

The local hospital, Chelmsford General Hospital, was forced to switch over to emergency power after supplies were cut. A representative from Essex Fire and Rescue told BBC News, "This is a large fire in an electrical sub-station which operates at 132 kilo-volts and supplies power to North Chelmsford."

"There is nothing to suggest that there is more than one fatality or any other people injured following this fire. The identity of the deceased is yet to be confirmed," stated a representative from Essex Police.

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Aid starts to reach Myanmar

May 7, 2008 Aid has started to reach Myanmar after a recent cyclone in the region killed thousands. This is despite complaints that the government of the country is not allowing aid agencies full access.

Large companies, including Google, have tried to encourage people to donate to aid agencies. On its website, Google wrote, "join the recovery efforts mobilizing around the world to assist cyclone victims in Myanmar. Your donation to either of these organizations will help survivors of the cyclone and other natural disasters rebuild their communities, and their lives."

Government officials in Myanmar have said that 22,464 people have been confirmed dead from Cyclone Nargis.

Only once the rescue workers reached the most hard hit areas of the storm did they begin to realize the damage that had taken place. At least 10,000 people died in one town alone, Bogalay in the Pyapon District of Myanmar.

Hundreds of thousands are homeless and another three thousand have been injured by the storm. Drinking water is contaminated and food is becoming scarce as the United Nations (U.N.) and other organizations try to get supplies to the region.

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Talk:Explosion in Chelmsford, Essex

Cause?--82.35.192.193 18:09, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

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One might note that two schools were locked down after the explosion (KEGS and CCHS on Broomfield Road), with students told to remain in their form rooms with all doors and windows shut, only leaving the school premises at the end of the school day when the fire department said they could leave. School carried on as normal the next day, though Newhall School had to remain closed the next day as the power didn't return until 5am. Power for homes throughout Chelmsford was limited during the evening. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.12.73.253 (talk) 13:58, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

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Scientology branch in Germany drops legal fight against government surveillance

May 7, 2008

The German branch of the Church of Scientology dropped its legal battle against government surveillance of its operations, according to a statement released by the organization on Tuesday. In an April ruling, the North Rhine-Westphalia Higher Administrative Court in Münster refused to consider an appeal made by the Church of Scientology to a February court decision sanctioning the monitoring of Scientology by Germany's intelligence agencies.

The agency which monitors Scientology in Germany is called the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (Germany's domestic intelligence agency), and has had the Church of Scientology under surveillance in Germany since 1997. The February ruling by the North Rhine-Westphalia Higher Administrative Court stated: "There are concrete indications that Scientology's activities are to implement Scientology's program in Germany and to expand more and more Scientology's principles in government, economy and society".

In the statement released Tuesday by the Church of Scientology's branch in Germany, the organization said it "felt it was time to reflect on the whole purpose of this battle of legal material and reach a sensible solution."

The Church of Scientology took German authorities to court in March 2003, seeking to stop further surveillance of their organization. In a November 2004 ruling, a court in Cologne upheld the legality of the German government's surveillance of the Church of Scientology. The 2004 ruling was upheld on February 12, 2008, in an appeal to the Higher Administrative Court in Münster.

In December 2007 top security officials in Germany asserted that the aims of Scientology are in conflict with the country's constitution, and requested that authorities investigate whether to ban Scientology in Germany. In January the interior affairs chief of the State of Saxony told the Associated Press (AP) that he thought a ban on Scientology in Germany was unlikely to occur.

In a post Wednesday to the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology, Scientology critic Raymond Hill commented on Scientology's recent actions, asking: "Scared that too much public awareness would be brought on its internal documents?" Hill runs the website "Scientology Critical Directory" at www.xenu-directory.net.

In a blog post at a website for The Washington Post, Claire Hoffman was critical of Scientology's treatment in Germany, writing: "While I'm well aware of their checkered past, decrying it unconstitutional seems like a threatened position to take by a nation."

German Church of Scientology spokeswoman Sabine Weber told the AP that the organization has added a "declaration on human rights and democracy" to its bylaws, and has designated an individual to run its human rights program in the country.

The United States Department of State has criticized Germany for its surveillance of Scientology in its annual Human Rights Report.


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Italy: Berlusconi announces new government

May 7, 2008

Silvio Berlusconi, 71, accepted the office of Italian Prime Minister, after two days of consultations led by the President of the Italian Republic Giorgio Napolitano.

During a press conference, shortly after the talks with Napolitano, Berlusconi presented his cabinet: there will be 21 ministers, including four women. Among them, 12 will come from Forza Italia, Berlusconi's party, 4 from National Alliance, 4 from Lega Nord and 1 from Christian Democracy for the Autonomies.

This will be Berlusconi's fourth term in office. According to Donato Marra, secretary-general of the presidency, Berlusconi and his cabinet will be sworn in tomorrow at 5:00 pm. The new government will then face a vote of confidence in Parliament, where his centre-right coalition holds a majority. Later in the evening, Berlusconi is planning to announce the first Council of Ministers.


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Comments:Scientology branch in Germany drops legal fight against government surveillance

Don't fuck with the Germans; they do what they want ask France

Keep it up Germany
The German government has every right to monitor these totalitarian groups. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.228.131.209 (talk) 20:50, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

what gives the govt the right to monitor a religious group?Imind - (talk) 17:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * what makes a religious group exempt from monitoring? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.102.159.2 (talk) 22:06, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

i guess we need to discuss where our rights come from. however, avoiding this rather ambiguous question, can we not agree with an objective morality which says that the govt has no right to monitor its citizens? that there is, in fact, a right to privacy at least to a certain extent? having said this, and being admittedly ignorant of german law, i feel comfortable saying the german govt has no right to 'monitor' this group any more than it 'monitors' another, meaning it should, at least to some extent, have its due privacy. -Imind - (talk) 19:23, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't care about Raymond Hill's Opinion
Speculation about the reaction and stance of Scientology in relation to Germany should be removed from the article. Raymond Hill is a critic of scientology and his quotes have no bearing on this story. He may be an expect but all he can do is speculate. There should be a quote or maybe something from a scientology supporter, but not something from somone who is openly trying to mae the group look bad. I think articles like this, just make wikinews look like a complete joke with thier firm stance on continued Scientology bashing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.57.96.1 (talk) 13:33, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

 * Wikinews is clearly run by Anonymous! FUCK YEAH SEAKING!!  Let's show those scilons we're not gonna take their crap!! 96.252.61.169  —Preceding comment was added at 17:54, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

 * Wikinews does not bash scientology, it simply writes about how others bash scientology —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.100.25.133 (talk • contribs)
 * There is a counterpoint given from blogger Claire Hoffman. Cirt - (talk) 21:12, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


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Floating wreckage of Brazilian plane carrying four UK businessmen recovered

May 7, 2008 Floating wreckage has been retrieved from a Brazilian Cessna 310 that disapeared on Friday with two local pilots and four businessmen from the United Kingdom. The debris was recovered from a beach in the North-East of the country.

The aircraft had been chartered by the businessmen from Aero Star to carry them as part of a trip to evaluate a potential luxury housing development. They have been identified as Nigel Hodges, 52, Alan Kempson, 46, Sean Woodhall, 43, and Ricky Every, 41. Nothing has been heard from them or their pilots since the plane lost radio contact on Friday evening and vanished.

The beach where the debris was recovered is about 90 to 95 kilometres (55 to 60 miles) North of the aircraft's last known position. The items retrieved are said to be a piece of one of the seats and a fragment of the cargo stowage area.

A naval boat, two C-95s from the air force and a helicopter are amongst the resources deployed to try and locate the aircraft and its missing occupants. One airforce spokeswoman said "Hopefully [they're alive], but we don't know."

The property the men were planning is an "eco-development" proposed by Worldwide Destinations, which is presided by Woodhall, who is a resident of Switzerland. The company employs Every in Brazil, and Kempson and Hadges are from finance company Diamond Lifestyle Holdings. Kempson is reported to be a friend of former UK Prime Minister Sir John Major. Hodges' wife and son have flown to Brazil to be present during the rescue operation.


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DEA raids San Diego State University dorms

May 8, 2008

On Tuesday the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) raided several dorms, homes and apartments in connection with a drug operation that focused on San Diego University campus. Several Theta Chi members have been arrested for possession and intent to distribute.

In a press release the DEA states that a member of Theta Chi sent out a mass text message to his "faithful customers" stating that he and his "associates" would be unable to sell cocaine while they were in Las Vegas, Nevada for a fraternity formal, according to the DEA. The text promoted a cocaine "sale" and listed the reduced prices on bulk quantities.

"Attn faithful customers both myself and my associates will be in Vegas this coming weekend," the 19-year-old Theta Chi member known only as "Kenny" wrote in the text message. "So stock up, we will be back Sunday night."

The DEA made over 100 drug purchases through this operation before its May 6th raid.

In response to this incident the Theta Chi National Fraternity ordered an immediate Suspension of the San Diego chapter.

On May 7, SDSU officials stated that only 33 of those arrested were students, and that any inflated numbers issued originally to the press included students arrested months earlier, in some cases for simple possession.


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it needs a rename i read it as "Floating wreckage recovered from Brazilian plane, carrying four UK businessmen" i recommend just ditching the end--82.35.192.193 21:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


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 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * Audio Wikinews could always use more contributors
 * And of course, stories need writing!

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