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Canada contributes weather station to NASA Mars mission

April 14, 2007

Canada has contributed a significant component to NASA's Phoenix mission to Mars, announced Maxime Bernier, Canada's Minister of Industry. In a news release on Thursday, Bernier, who is also responsible for the Canadian Space Agency (CSA), indicated that Canada had provided a meteorological station, named MET.

The Phoenix Lander, with several on-board instruments, is to launch in August 2007 and touch down on Mars in May 2008. It will gather information on the Martian climate and weather, and will search for habitable zones.

The MET is to play a significant role in NASA's mission by providing information on the Mars atmosphere. The MET is comprised of a pressure sensor, three temperature sensors located on a mast, and a lidar. A lidar is similar to radar but employs laser light rather than microwaves.

The MET instruments were designed by Canadian scientists and private industry, which had received CA$37 million in funding from the CSA. "Our contribution to the Phoenix mission will inspire young Canadians to take their place as part of the next space generation," said Bernier.

Canada has provided astronauts and technology to international space programs. Examples of technological contributions include the Canadarm and Canadarm2 on the Space Shuttle and International Space Station.

With the experience gained from the Phoenix mission, NASA hopes to provide a foundation for future robotic missions and, one day, human exploration of Mars.


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I think this graph fails to communicate its scale at a glance to the layman. I favor attracting attention to environmental problems, but drastic change does not influence the shape of this graph so much as human formatting decisions; by squeezing a relatively large increment of ordinate into a 2 inch space and cleaving off most of the relevant abscissa, this graph loses its value for intuitive appraisal. "Fighting fire with fire," in this case, ignorance with zealous propoganda, is not necessary when we have the truth on our side. Gentle waters of truth best quench the flame of idiocy. A variance of 2 degrees in ambient climate is barely a warm zephyr compared to what this planet has experienced in even the recent past. My suggestion: Qualify this graphical statement with increments not widely skewed from the usual layout most familiar to the layman. I've too often been rightfully accused of skewing the facts as much as the axes in debates with sharp-minded fellows to let this forego my attention. Have I a sound point? Please respond with something other than accusations of heresy, which seem now easier to accrue than to dismiss. Sincerely, Environmentalist Who's had his Rabies Shots
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Banned rally leads to Kasparov arrest
Russian opposition leader and former World Chess Champion Garry Kasparov was among 170 people detained by Russian authorities during a security operation against a rally organised by The Other Russia. The Other Russia is an umbrella coalition that gathers opponents of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

"Today the regime showed its true colours, its true face," said Kasparov. "We were arrested when we were doing nothing. There was no action. We were just walking along," he told reporters.

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Nuclear deadline passes for North Korea.
A key deadline with respect to North Korea's nuclear programme has passed. North Korea said it remained committed to closing the reactor at Yongbyon.

North Korea has insited that some US$25 million be unfrozen at a Macau bank. The United States says the funds have been released, but that North Korea has yet to withdraw any of it.

US Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill was quoted as saying, "It's certainly worrisome to all of us to see them approaching this date rather lethargically." Hill continued, "The Chinese wanted us to show some patience for a couple of more days. There's a sense that the communication lines are open and the North Koreans understand the fact that these accounts are accessible to them."

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UK mental health charity says 'young' need more protection
United Kingdom mental health charity, Young Minds, has called on the UK government for mental healthcare reforms to give vulnerable children more protection. The charity also claims that at least a third of young people under psychiatric care are detained against their will.

The charity's comments come in response to the proposed Mental Health Bill which Parliament is set to debat next week.

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Deadly bus crash in Mexico
A bus and a truck collided and burst into flames in Chihuahua, Mexico. The accident occurred near Ciudad Juárez, across the border from El Paso, Texas. Police sources tell Reuters that at least 21 were killed and most of the victims were passengers on the bus. El Universal puts the toll at 23.

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Two suicide bombers attack US targets in Casablanca

April 14, 2007

Two bombs went off today in Boulevard Moulay Youssef in central, Morocco. Two men, reported to be brothers, blew themselves up outside and the United States Consulate and its culture center, respectively. The bombers both died and a woman, who was passing by, was injured.

An eyewitness told BBC News: "I saw a man talking to a policeman, trying to distract him I guess, while another man walked by to the consulate and blew himself up over there."

Police sources say that the men were part of the same terror cell that police has been trying to track down since a March 11 bombing at an. On April 10, four suspects died after a police raid on the same group.

In the hours following the bombings, police arrested three people, and recovered another explosives belt near Kandara Hotel. A man seen throwing down the belt was among those arrested. Moroccan authorities have been downplaying a possible connection with Wednesday's bombings in neighboring Algeria.


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NASA: Series of errors led to loss of Mars Global Surveyor

April 14, 2007

A complex series of events, including a five month-old computer error, was responsible for the battery failure that led to the loss of NASA's Mars Global Surveyor last year, an internal review board says. Findings from a preliminary report released on Friday say that while NASA controllers followed procedures while operating the craft, the procedures did not cover the types of errors that occurred.

According to NASA, on November 2, 2006, the Global Surveyor was ordered to perform a routine adjustment of its solar panels. However, the Global Surveyor reoriented to an angle that exposed one of its two batteries to direct sunlight. The battery overheated, which led to the depletion of both batteries. An incorrect setting in antenna orientation prevented Global Surveyor from relaying its status to NASA controllers. Its preprogrammed systems did not take into account the need to maintain a thermally safe orientation.

That was the last communication that NASA controllers had with the spacecraft.

The Global Surveyor was the first US mission to Mars in twenty years, For ten years, the craft returned detailed information to NASA scientists providing new insights, including evidence that appeared to show the presence of water on Mars and identification of deposits of water-related minerals, which led to selection of a Mars rover landing site.

"The loss of the spacecraft was the result of a series of events linked to a computer error made five months before the likely battery failure," said Dolly Perkins, board chairperson and deputy director-technical of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center.

The board concluded that NASA controllers had followed procedures, but that the procedures did not adequately cover the type of errors that occurred. In its final report, the board will offer recommendations applicable to future missions.

"We are making an end-to-end review of all our missions to be sure that we apply the lessons learned from Mars Global Surveyor to all our ongoing missions," said Fuk Li, Mars Exploration Program manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

The Global Surveyor was the longest operating spacecraft at Mars and had lasted four times longer than expected.


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2007 Cricket World Cup: New Zealand vs South Africa

April 14, 2007

New Zealand beat South Africa by 5 wickets in the Super 8 phase of the World Cup at the Cricket National Stadium, St. George's, Grenada, securing their place in the semi-finals, along with Australia, Sri Lanka and a currently unknown team. South Africa will have to beat England in their upcoming game in order to secure their progression.

Toss: New Zealand won, and elected to bowl first.

Fall of wickets: 1-3 (Smith, 1.5 ov), 2-3 (de Villiers, 3.0 ov), 3-52 (Kallis, 19.5 ov), 4-128 (Gibbs, 37.0 ov), 5-143 (Prince, 40.5 ov), 6-149 (Boucher, 42.2 ov), 7-181 (Hall, 48.0 ov)

Did not bat: Andre Nel, Makhaya Ntini

Fall of wickets: 1-25 (Fulton, 7.2 ov), 2-42 (Taylor, 12.2 ov), 3-120 (Fleming, 30.1 ov), 4-176 (Styris, 43.4 ov), 5-192 (Oram, 48.1 ov)

Did not bat: Daniel Vettori, James Franklin, Shane Bond, Jeetan Patel

New Zealand: P G Fulton, S P Fleming (capt), R L Taylor, S B Styris, J D P Oram, C D McMillan, B B McCullum (wkt), D L Vettori, J E C Franklin, S E Bond, J S Patel South Africa: G C Smith (capt), A B de Villiers, J D Kallis, H H Gibbs, A G Prince, M V Boucher (wkt), S M Pollock, A J Hall, R J Peterson, A Nel, M Ntini

Player of the match: C D McMillan (New Zealand)

Umpires: M R Benson (England) and D J Harper (Australia) TV umpire: B R Doctrove (West Indies) Match referee: BC Broad (England) Reserve umpire: Asad Rauf (Pakistan)


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Explosion hits police station in Kerala, India

April 14, 2007

A blast is reported to have occurred inside the car park of the Perambra Police station in Kozhikode (Calicut) in the state of Kerala, India.

One police officer and a seven-year-old boy have reported to be injured in the incident.

The Home minister for state of Kerala Kodiyeri Balakrishnan has ordered a probe to identify the cause of the incident.

The police say the explosion originating from bombs that were seized by the police in 2002, which now might have been triggered by the heat. Locals reject this explanation and suspect a cover-up. An explosion last week killed eight in Kozhikode.


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Talk:NASA: Series of errors led to loss of Mars Global Surveyor

I see it as mostly human error, Doldrums. The programmers and controllers didn't anticipate that the orientation toward direct sunlight would overheat the batteries. No safeguards were in place to make sure the spacecraft remained "thermally safe". This programming mis-step allowed the failure to occur, and it could have been avoided. Jcart1534 14:51, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

 * i don't feel that is the case. i think "human error" refers to when the correct action is known, but the operating person does not do it or does something else. here, it appears that contingency plans for situations encountered were not there. in the context of law and medicine, for instance, for eg., puts error as "a failure to perform an intended action which was correct given the circumstances" and accident as "an unplanned, unexpected, and undesired event, usually with an adverse outcome.". i think we shld not be using the term unless we can source it to the report. –Doldrums(talk) 15:24, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Okay, I see your point. Lack of prevention isn't an error in this case. If the controllers followed protocol, then it shouldn't be labeled human error. Good job on the edits! :) Cheers, Jcart1534 16:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


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Horse racing: Silver Birch wins the 2007 Grand National

April 14, 2007

Silver Birch has won the 2007 Grand National at Aintree Racecourse in Liverpool. Ridden by Robbie Power and trained by Gordon Elliott, the 33-1 outsider won the 4 mile 4 furlong (7.2 km) race by three-quarters of a length, becoming the sixth Irish winner in the past nine years. Thirteen horses finished the race out of 40 starters. Slim Pickings, leading the race at the penultimate fence, was overtaken by Silver Birch on the last jump. Silver Birch then held off a late challenge by McKelvey in a close finish. McKelvey came in second at 12-1, while Slim Pickings finished third at 33-1 and Philson Run fourth at 100-1. Numbersixvalverde, winner of the 2006 race, finished sixth while the 2005 winner Hedgehunter finished ninth. The 8-1 joint favourites Point Barrow, Joes Edge and Monkerhostin failed to finish, with Point Barrow falling at the first fence.


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I am Brad McGarr, and I reside in Phoenix, Arizona. I have strong ties to Washington State, specifically the Wenatchee / North Central Washington area and the Puget Sound region. I joined Wikinews to begin working on multiple projects.

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As I stated above, I joined Wikinews April 14, 2007, just to begin working on some new exciting projects. My time is limited, so the amount of reporting may be less than others, however, I do have some background in Journalism.

In 2003, I operated as the Business Manager and member of the Editorial Staff of The Knight Life College Newspaper for Wenatchee Valley College in Wenatchee, Washington. I wrote several articles and editorials while working on the Founding Editorial Staff. I am currently an inactive member of the American Red Cross, and as such can be alerted to local activities earlier than some others. My contributions will be primarily regarding events relating to Phoenix, Arizona and Wenatchee, Washington.

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Comments:Ten dead on Minnesota Indian reservation after school shooting

Unbelievable. I was flying from Winnipeg to Orlando the day this happened, and I'm sure the plane actually crossed over the reserve. The pilot was flying low for some reason, and I saw this kid, fairly well-built, walking out of a cop car. I thought it was just a 5-0 dropping his kid off, but I looked at my watch, and saw that it was fairly late (my watch was still on CST). I didn't know what was going on down there. When we landed for our layover in O'Hare, I looked up on the monitor and saw Anderson Cooper saying that a kid, shot and killed 10 people and came to school in a cop car, then that was one hell of a reality check. ~(insert four-letter word)


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Canadian activist June Callwood dies at 82

April 14, 2007

June Callwood, Canadian Journalist, humanitarian, and activist, died today of cancer at age 82.

Callwood, born June 2, 1924 in Chatham-Kent, Ontario, first became a journalist for Brantford Expositor and later for The Globe and Mail, she began doing freelance journalism for magazines including Maclean's, hosted several television shows for the CBC and Vision TV, and wrote 30 books. In 2003, she was diagnosed with cancer and refused treatment so she could continue her activism, but just this month the disease began to worsen until her death this morning at Toronto's Princess Margaret Hospital. Just last month a biography entitled June Callwood: A Life of Action was written by author Anne Dublin.

Callwood left a significant legacy of activism and community service. She helped to found the Toronto AIDS hospice Casey House, the youth hostel Digger House, Nellie's hostel for women, PEN Canada, and the Canadian Civil Liberties Foundation. Callwood was also a past spokesperson for the Campaign Against Child Poverty.

Casey House (June Callwood) is named after her son, Casey Frayne, who was killed in a motorcycle accident involving a drunk driver, in 1982 at the age of 20.

In 1978, she was made a member of the Order of Canada, she became an Officer with the Order of Canada in 1985, and became Companion in the year 2000. In 1988, the Order of Ontario was awarded to her and in 2004 a street in Toronto was named after her. Her last interview was on CBC's The Hour hosted by George Stroumboulopoulos in 2005.

Callwood is survived by her husband, Trent Frayne, her two daughters, Jessie Frayne, Jill Frayne, and her son, Brant Frayne.

External link

 * June Callwood biography at Library and Archives Canada


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Your sandbox
I'd like to see that moved over and published in a day or so. It isn't time-sensitive and a few people could check it and the source stuff. I gave up on the original attempt as being hard to read - it probably needs refactored as a /Notes off the talk page when this goes in Main namespace. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

copyright
Ok, thanks for pointing that out - I have been the subject of much heated debate over copyright ownership - much of which is my word against the policies (I will obiously loose)

Because I have the legal rights to republish stories written by reuters, there is much contriversy within wikinews about wheather (srry about the spelling) I should publish these stories. I can't be bothered debating the facts - I can publish these stories legally but, if no one wants to accept it, they are on their own!

In future, I will not contribute however, i will still be involved in wikinews video  Symode09 09:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Canadian govt. photos
Thanks for the info, Doldrums. And the image is perfect! Cheers, Jcart1534 10:25, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Re:Username
Hello, Doldrums! I use this name on every wikimedia project: I am an administrator on Commons, a long-time user on wikipedia, and I have over 56 accounts across wikimedia projects (yes all those are me). I've never come across a problem with my username before... is it a wikinews-specific problem or just a general concern? If it is going to cause a problem I could probably sign up with another name, though when SUL comes around I will have this username anyway. I could sign up then with another account but that may cause problems/be a hassle. I'll see what I can do, though, if my name is an issue :) — Editor at Large talk 07:14, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see your name as an issue. DragonFire1024 07:16, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I could, possibly, use my name instead of username in my signature, perhaps? I greatly dislike doing this as it is both confusing when people try to find me or my pages (often the username and signature name will not be connected as they are rarely seen together) and I don't like broadcasting my name so openly, even if I and others do use it on-wiki. However, if it avoids problems then I suppose it is a worthwhile compromise; I can post on the noticeboard if you would like to ask others' opinions on the matter. — Editor at Large talk 09:25, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * have replied here. –Doldrums(talk) 09:38, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome; I'll add the notices to my page, and I will certainly roam at large and edit as I intended when I signed up! — Editor at Large talk 19:32, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Bg image
Did you notice my comment on WN:WC about an image I found, http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=87290915&size=l, I'm trying a part of it as my monobook.css, and the only thing I see is we'd need to either darken the "NEWS" part of the logo, or make it a different colour. Amusingly, the photo is of a pile of excess newspapers printed for the Katrina disaster and never sold/user. Thoughts? --Brian McNeil / talk 14:29, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: ANZAC article
A reply to the message you left on Nzgabriel's user page has been left. --Nzgabriel | Talk 08:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
I always have problems with that spelling. :-) --Brian McNeil / talk 09:19, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: comment on UFO article talk page
Yes I noticed, thanks for that.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 14:05, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Q.
Thank you, Doldrums! I appreciate the gesture and I would be happy to accept the nomination. Jcart1534 16:01, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

PBS
Thanks for the welcome --PBS 19:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Dear Doldrums, this issue has already been resolved a(I thought the seven looses controll of audio article had been deleted)

thanks

 * I understand that - since then, I have written lottle stories - I am focusing on the wikinews video project. thanks Symode09 10:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Anime News
Well can i create Anime News? All of the Global Anime News are almost NEVER copyrighted for obv. reasons! Im surrprised Anime News isnt up already! o well!--Saikano 16:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Speedy
I didn't speedy 67.71.155.212 19:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I am the author of the wikipedia article and the wikinews article, CIA Director George Tenet's memoir published it is not copyright protected information. I am the one who wrote it.  67.71.155.212 19:18, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

in regards to the wikinews blog, there is also a wikipedia blog (wikipedia.spaces.live.com) - I beleive there is nothing wring with using to name of wikinews - if I was pretending to represent or attempting to defame wikinews I would understand your objection however, regardless of if I am right or wrong, this is still a source which is useful. I would appreiate your understanding Symode09 11:17, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

RE: Wow
No...lol...why? DragonFire1024 21:49, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And there is no need to be sarcastic. Also, this is English Wikinews. Lately there have been quite a few foreign sources not in English being used. I, and others, should not have to hunt down English sources, or find means to translate them. DragonFire1024 22:11, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hungarian is not a common language, and I had to get a plug-in just to try a translation, which just made it worse. And what I could read looked like IMO a editorial. DragonFire1024 22:22, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

See
please see http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:The_Chaser_Targets_Wikipedia_Founder thanks :)

—Symode09 07:21, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

 * As above —Symode09 07:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * As above above —Symode09 08:33, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

ooops, wron link, see http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Airline_checks_Dell_and_Apple_computers_for_hazard Symode09 08:36, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi you mailed me before. I'm a top 100 contributor User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld from Wikipedia. Your're all doing a great job on the news!!! 81.102.25.233 12:38, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikiquote troll
Obviously, that's not me. Is Wikiquote inquiring into the situation or something? --TUFKAAP 23:23, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

 * I had the same problem TUFKAAP. Thanks for the heads-up Doldrums. Cheers, Jcart1534 23:30, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Cross-Wiki impersonation
Thank you for the info on this, that is not an account which i created, and i am glad you brought it to my attention. I apologize for the amount of time it took for me to respond to your comments, but i have a large homework load right now, and took an un-announced wiki-break, sorry for any confusion this may have caused you, i plan to get back to my wiki-work asap.—Dark_Squall 22:50, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hey Doldrums. Just wanted to thank you again for the admin nomination. I'll take care of the reading list and will try to use the buttons wisely. All the best! Jcart1534 22:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

adminship
I'd be honored if you nominated me. I don't mind putting in my time in archiving and such, but I do want to remain committed to providing content. I don't want to end up like Brianmc who barely writes articles anymore. I don't know anything about Bots, but I suppose I can learn. --SVTCobra 15:36, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

feedback
Hi Doldrums. No worries with the suggestions you provide! I appreciate the feedback as it is sometimes hard to step back and look at the whole story. Cheers, Jcart1534 15:16, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

RE: Grants
When asking about grants, I asked general questions such as, how long would the process take. I do not plan on being very involved in the application - I am not a US citicen and therefore am illegible to continue legally. I did not pose as a representative of the foundation. soncerely, Symode09 14:08, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

So are the article I now make better?
 Vagish  [wp]  [wn] 09:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Bloomberg
What do you want the title to say "Bloomberg maybe, might be, prepared to spend 1 billion dollars for presidency but says he will not run." I'll put the part saying he will not run and it is also in the main source also.

Then Fix it
Fine, do it then, don't say it's bad and put the article stuck in Development. Wikinews is about people working together to make the article not one person writing it and ten people saying it's bad and putting it in development. I would mention the 1 billion dollars in the title if you can since it does grab attention. The 13th 4postle 16:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Bloomberg article ?
I cleaned it up and the title has been changed and it mentions the fact that he denied he would not run. Please Publish it or let it be published.The 13th 4postle 01:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

On Notice
Your On Notice!!! The 13th 4postle 03:10, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I Apologize
I apologize about it, I didn't mean to offend you it's just a joke. I even figured it might give you a laugh. The 13th 4postle 14:11, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Bible
Its nearly identical to Reuters First paragraph and article. But whatever. I restored it so that you can see that. DragonFire1024 14:48, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for helping restore and rewrite the acticle. :) -- AngusSuen 15:05, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

User:24.124.3.1
You're right, the block was too long, but I think that the IP needs to be blocked for at least three months. The end user revealed a phone number, which I had oversighted. I'm blocking for three months, if you disagree, please contact me :)  Thunderhead  ►  22:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

hello
hello Pandoo 19:41, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for bashing some shape into Talks about Wolfowitz resignation begin. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Global warming
I'm a user in the Hungarian wikipedia, the English wikipedia, and the USA' Conservapedia. Just this Wikinews is unusal. So I would like to translate news about global warming.

I think the wikinews has a big wikiproject about global warming. I'm looking for just wikiproject global warming. Thanks a lot Doldrums.--Kádár Tamás 09:45, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Norton AntiVirus cripples thousands of PCs in China
That Google News search result page contains all Chinese news sources regarding this event. English news media haven't got it yet.

Wikinews Shorts: May 20, 2007
Jcart wrote a full version of the David Hicks story, should it be removed from the shorts or be left in with a link to the full version? Like the golf story in Wikinews Shorts: April 9, 2007. dif1 dif2. Your Shorts expertise is requested!--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:19, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I thought that might be a good solution. thanks.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:26, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, excellent solution Doldrums. I'll keep that in mind for the future. Cheers, Jcart1534 19:51, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Input re: China warns US
Hi Doldrums. I noticed your input yesterday on the China warns US to avoid trade confrontation article. Thank you, it was very helpful! A bit of work but I think we managed to get a reasonable concensus. Cheers, Jcart1534 13:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

RE: Great OR
Thanks for the copyedit and helping to make the article better, you did an excellent job - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 20:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Congrats
2 of the articles you've written have been promoted to featured status, even though you seemed reluctant to vote on them yourself! Well done. Please consider voting on some of the remaining candidates were consensus isn't so clear yet: WN:FAC.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:08, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Monster Pig
Monster Pig should be capitalized, it is the name of the pig that was killed, you should really start a discussion on the talk page before renaming articles, I am going to put it back. 70.48.52.32 10:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Tru Mobsters Online MMORPG Game
You have deleted every news article I have posted because it gives direct links to my site what is your deal?>

Re: AWB and admin maintainance tasks
Thanks, I could use a replacement digit. Fingers wear down, but thumbs rule!! —Zachary talk 08:08, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Breaking news
Thanks for adding the flag to the south Thailand story. Updates are coming in now. I will likely be moving it under another headline, something like 21 dead in south Thailand attacks. Wisekwai 16:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

remove obscenities directed against named persons from the deletion log
OK, thanks, I will observe this policy in the future. This was the first time I handled a semi-sustained attack and also the first time I blocked anyone. --SVTCobra 22:58, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Summarizing the day!
I have an idea. I want to do a summarizing page for each day and add bits from the news articles on that date. For example, for tonight we should do (just an example) June 7, 2007 (Summary) (or a different format of link) and add only a few describing lines or a describing paragraph to explain the headline. We can give FULL STORY links to those articles. This looks like Wikinews Shorts and the Wikinews Main Page, but no. The summary page should include all headlines from that day. How about it? Tekin 21:44, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Cheers
Thanks for the welcome and help, Doldrums. The first time's always the hardest :-D Nigeltde 19:27, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Weird :)
Hi Doldrums, I only now saw you had put some links on User:Sean_Heron/g8. For a moment I had thought it was from someone I had met in Kühlungsborn, cause I was chatting with a guy who was from the G8 Research Group from Toronto! Hmm, had I known I might have interviewed him as well... I´ve definetly come to regard preparation as of an utmost importance. Regards Sean Heron 07:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Could you have a look?
Here: Talk:Council of Europe report challenges teaching of Creationism. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 11:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Phyu Phyu Thin
Thanks for the trophy, and your work at editing the latest Myanmar article, especially tracking down an image of Phyu Phyu Thin. Wisekwai 10:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Possible to track new articles?
Hello Doldrums-Sysop-Person!

Is there a way to keep track of new articles only, as they are created? I have been watching 'recent changes' but its about 90% minor edits. There must be some way that I don't know about, eh? Thanks Emperor NortonXXIII 04:48, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome
Hi and thanks for your welcome. I will be here only every now and then, that is when I try to translate certain news about the town and the surroundings where I live. I hope I won't mix up things all too much, since I noted that the various wikinews sites do their work a bit different ... so if there are problems, please just tell me. Thanks! --SabineCretella 17:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Updating articles over 24 hours old
Hi Doldrums - Thanks for the message. I totally understand the nature of articles over a day old, and I absolutely agree with that policy. The rationale that I used to make changes in this case, however, were because the article omitted a key contextual point. Leahy responded to a question that dealt directly with criminal contempt of congress, not just a simple court judgment on executive privilege. It's a distinct difference that I saw covered elsewhere, but not in this article. If he, for example, was quoted saying that today as a followup to his comments on Sunday, then absolutely I would have started a new story, but I felt that the prior article needed to include more information on the context of the discussion to accurately describe what Leahy actually said on Sunday. Hope that helps. Glad I can help out and contribute, and I appreciate the feedback as I get more involved. :) Aaron Ray 04:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

PD-article
Technically I have mentioned it several times on IRC, about instating the template as an option for authors to add to new articles - and nobody was able to say any reason it *wouldn't* be allowed under WMF policy (PD is encouraged), and legally it's certainly acceptable for me to license my story. Neither of the stories the article was on had any license-able edits by other editors anyways, merely stylistic, spacing, etc - now legally they could argue on the talk page that "I just added a bunch of paragraphs, I do not wish to have them be Public Domain", and assuming the paragraphs improve the article and are kept, the template would be removed. But as it stands, the template deserves a chance and falls within both WMF and legal guidelines for use. Sherurcij 16:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Old articles and adding things to them
Hi Doldrums, Policy is pretty clear about not adding new content to old articles. You know, the whole "not works in progress", etc. Recently, I reverted an edit by User:Blood Red Sandman, who had added a Wikipediapar link to Republic Airlines flight 4912 & SkyWest Airlines flight 5741 to the article NTSB releases updates on status of 3 major US investigations. My reason for this was that the Wikipedia article did not exist at the time of publication of the Wikinews article.

Blood Red Sandman then pointed out that you had recently added a Wikipediapar link 2006 Slovak Air Force Antonov An-24 crash to article Slovak transport plane crashes over Hungary. In this case, the Wikinews article also predates the Wikipedia article.

So, I can understand why Sandman is confused. We obviously can't both be right since the examples are so nearly identical. Do you know which is correct? Should Wikinews add Wikipedia cross-wiki links afterwards? I think that I am right, and that you just didn't notice that the Wikipedia article was far older, but I am far from certain. I would like to hear back. Is there precedent? A rule of thumb? Should it be mentioned in policy? Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:32, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

 * How long

10:30, 5 July 2007 Doldrums (Talk | contribs) (2,260 bytes) (Undo revision 453327 by 82.224.88.52 (Talk) unpublish, pls don't publish until cleanup is performed)

 * will it last ? 82.224.88.52 06:14, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Refugee article
Hi Doldrums. Thanks for adding the table with the data summary. It is brilliant to see the figures like that. Really hits home. Cheers, --Jcart1534 19:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Europe category
May I ask why you added the Europe category to Well-preserved baby mammoth found in Siberia? Siberia is in the Asian part of Russia. JoshuaZ 15:44, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

huh?
wait what did i change? also, how can u put a souce when that wasnt the source?

thanks Doldrums,
for helping to head off my latest etiquette disaster at Cindy Sheehan arrested inside Rayburn Building in Washington DC. regards -Edbrown05 20:25, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Edit to User talk:Justdidier
I'm not sure if you have checkuser access on here or something but, as far as I can tell, this user isn't responsible for the spam today. It seems that User:69.136.230.51 is. I was bold and went ahead and moved your comment regarding that to that location, but if I was incorrect, please feel free to revert me. Pilotguy roger that  15:22, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi
long time

Pandoo 18:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Re:memo
Excellent. I assume you have suspended habeas? --+Deprifry+ 12:17, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Here's an article for you to kill
... or perhaps it belongs on the Washington page. -Edbrown05 11:02, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * thanks. –Doldrums(talk) 11:31, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for deleteing that.
I'm dumb, I thought in my incoherent haze that renaming an article would delete the original. Duh. Thanks for taking care of the vandalism. irid:t 05:18, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Politics - Tony Benn
You rarely appear in IRC so I can't bug you about my Benn interview there. Then there's the fact that you do an excellent job of separating your personal politics from Wikinews. However... I would appreciate your wisdom and input on the interview I have to do. Tony Benn is a UK political heavyweight, and if we do a good interview other sources will pick it up. It will be a telephone interview that I record, upload, and transcribe. On that basis I will need help from wherever I can get it to turn that into an article. Your input would be most welcome. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:16, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi
I am a new comer and I want to save my news, Can you please help me by editing it?

--Iamsaa 06:31, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for Welcome
Heh, thanks for the welcome. I have some familiarity with Wikis in general (done some stuff on Wikipedia, very much involved in a Wiki on modding TES4: Oblivion), but never really used Wikinews. I just felt the article was very much needed, because I'm having serious trouble figuring out what is going on - very few news outlets are covering it, and information is really hard thanks to MTA's web site dying incessantly.

Anyway, I appreciate the welcome, as I said. I saw most (all?) of those links when I signed up, but frankly, I don't really have time to learn everything. I hoped that I could write something "good enough" and move on with figuring out my own situation (I need to get to Brooklyn from Manhattan... still not happening). Good luck, and thanks again. --DragoonWraith 15:12, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Benn Interview
Can you help out with this a bit? I have a hellish amount of work to get through today and doubt I'll have much time to work on the transcript. I'm wondering if it'd be better just to write an article from the recording and defer the transcript. --Brian McNeil / talk 06:36, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and oversight requests
There are two requests in relation to CheckUser and oversight which require the approval of the Arbitration Committee before they are presented to Wikimedia stewards for action to be taken. I would ask you to review these two requests:
 * 1) User:Brianmc has recently been elected to the committee and requests CheckUser and oversight
 * 2) User:Chiacomo hasn't been re-elected and has been inactive on the project since March, User:Adambro has suggested his privileges are revoked.

I would appreciate your input, as a member of ARBCOM which I understand has the final say on whether a user has these rights, on these two requests. Adambro 14:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Orphan talks
Dear Doldrums,

excuse my bad English. This is my firs post on en.news, I mainly work on it.source. I just slipped inside to paste a list of talk pages belonging to deleted articles. In other projects these orphan talks are normally deleted, so I think to be useful pointing them out: they are
 * Talk:"Good_time_in_Eurozone":_says_the_European_Commission
 * Talk:"Nanodrama_Not_Nanofiction"_new_book_by_Nigel_Tomm
 * Talk:'Sivaji:_The_Boss'_is_possibly_the_most_expensive_film_made_in_India
 * Talk:14-year-old_Scot_publishes_novel
 * Talk:16_American_contractors_detained_for_firing_upon_marines_and_civilians_in_Iraq
 * Talk:1976:_U.S._endorsed_Iranian_plans_to_build_massive_nuclear_energy_industry
 * Talk:1consumervoice_tracks_power_outages_on_Google_map
 * Talk:2005_Kuomintang_visits_to_Mailand
 * Talk:2007-2008_T-Mobile_Bundesliga_Matchday_2
 * Talk:3_Speed_Automatic_release_new_EP_"Project_Horizonica"
 * Talk:ATUNGA_Rock_Band_Resurfaces_in_Cyberspace
 * Talk:A_'clean'_alternative_to_YouTube
 * Talk:A_Wiki_with_a_Business_Model
 * Talk:A_conspiracy_to_avoid_broadcast_a_news_by_TV_media_at_Panama_city
 * Talk:A_fifth_of_American_kids_projected_to_become_eaten_by_the_tarr_stepps_troll_yummy_yummy_McKiddies_for_my_Tummy_Wummy_and_Hunny_Mummys_with_Funny_Tummies_as_Welly_Goody_Gum_Drops_so_wheelie_tastie_funny_fun_fun_fun!_on_wheelie_peelies!
 * Talk:A_primordial_galaxy_in_Cetus
 * Talk:Abducted_boys_killed_in_Venezuela
 * Talk:Abortion_case_throw_out
 * Talk:About
 * Talk:Accountant_for_television_network_found_dead_in_hotel_room
 * Talk:Afghan_president_calls_protesters_enemies_of_progress
 * Talk:Al_Gore_III:_Former_VP's_son_Formally_Charged_in_Orange_County,_Calif
 * Talk:Al_Gore_Meets_Local_Environmental_Activist
 * Talk:Alaska_fishing_lodge
 * Talk:Alleged_Bigfoot_capture
 * Talk:America_a_democracy_or_a_demoncracy_?
 * Talk:An_Interview_with_an_Intellectual_Teacher_Munir_Moosa_Sewani
 * Talk:Another_author_of_“anti-bush”_books_dies_of_apparent_suicide
 * Talk:Anti-Greek_extremist_kidnaps_mayor_of_Reggio_di_Calabria,_Italy
 * Talk:Anti-Syrian_coalition_expected_to_win_elections_in_Lebanon
 * Talk:Apple_Calls_Cisco_Lawsuit_"Silly"
 * Talk:Aquinas
 * Talk:Arabic_youth_news
 * Talk:Arizona_Mortgages
 * Talk:Assistive_robots_become_safer
 * Talk:Associated_Press_misquotes_Blair
 * Talk:Australian_hostage_Douglas_Wood_is_rescued_in_Iraq
 * Talk:Author_speaks_out_against_whaling
 * Talk:Ayyavazhi
 * Talk:Back_to_the_future_with_Vista
 * Talk:Benedict_XVI_appeals_to_Khamenei
 * Talk:Beverly_Blvd_bridge_will_be_repaired_soon
 * Talk:Bigger_Than_the_DaVinci_Code?
 * Talk:Black_Box_Voting_investigates_allegations_of_election_fraud_in_U.S.
 * Talk:Black_Shadow_Organization_founded_in_Southern_Serbia
 * Talk:Blair_to_join_Carlyle_Group,_suggests_Sunday_Mirror
 * Talk:Brazilian_soccer's_mother_has_been_kidnapped
 * Talk:British_Prime_Minister_confirms_authenticity_of_Downing_Street_memo
 * Talk:Broadcast_Decency_Enforcement_Act_of_2005
 * Talk:Broomfighting
 * Talk:Buddhism_should_supass_Christianity_in_world_census
 * Talk:Building_Fire_near_school
 * Talk:Bulldogs_Champs
 * Talk:Bulls_defeat_Sharks_to_win_Super_14
 * Talk:Burlington_Northern_Santa_Fe_Train_Derailment
 * Talk:Bush:_Colon_polyps_confirmed_benign
 * Talk:Bush_inaugurated_for_second_term_speech
 * Talk:Bush_praises_Iraq_election
 * Talk:CHINESE_CHARGED_WITH_COVER-UP_OF_HUMAN_DEATHS_FROM_BIRD_FLU
 * Talk:CMA_CGM_:_Scandals
 * Talk:CNN_anounces_plans_to_use_Wiki_technology_on_cnn.com
 * Talk:California_schools_ban_soda_sales
 * Talk:California_wildfire_kills_four_firefighters,_seriously_injures_one
 * Talk:Canada-wide_manhunt_for_suspect_in_Ontario_slayings
 * Talk:Cancer_scare_at_ABC's_Brisbane_studios
 * Talk:Cardinals_advance_to_World_Series_in_3-1_victory_over_Mets
 * Talk:Castle_Rock_Colorado_"An_Absolute_Butte"
 * Talk:Castleberry's_Food_recalls_meat_over_fears_of_botulism
 * Talk:Celebrity_website_criticize_judge_who_ordered_Hilton's_release
 * Talk:Cheney_defends_stance_on_bank_records
 * Talk:Chernobyl
 * Talk:Chief_Cathy_L_Lanier_condones_sexual_harassment_of_decorated_officer
 * Talk:Chikhaldara
 * Talk:China_releases_"Human_Rights_Report"_on_US
 * Talk:Citizens_report_telemarketing_campaign_from_Republican_party
 * Talk:City_needs_to_mend_alley_policy
 * Talk:Civil_Rights_Lawsuit_Threatens_to_Divide_Mormon_Faithfull
 * Talk:Clerk_credited_with_foiling_terrorists
 * Talk:College_prank_leaves_sheep_dead
 * Talk:Colleges_offering_admission_to_displaced_New
 * Talk:Communique_'06_SITM_X_National_Telecom_Seminar
 * Talk:Community_Portal
 * Talk:Condemned_in_Perpetuatity_for_marrying_a_christian!
 * Talk:Crime_in_South_Africa
 * Talk:Czechoslovakia_ceased_to_exist_15_years_ago
 * Talk:Day_After_Tomorrow_not_that_far_away
 * Talk:Dido_Portal
 * Talk:Disrobement_of_monks_continues_as_VN_promises_to_negotiate
 * Talk:Documents_implicating_Farmers_Insurance_Group_for_discrimination_released
 * Talk:Donald_Tusk_leads_in_1st_Round_of_Poland's_Presidential_Election;_2nd_Round_will_take_place_on_23rd_October
 * Talk:EU_helps_cure_side_effect_of_Katrina_hurrican
 * Talk:EU_summit:_"free_and_undistorted_competition"_deleted_from_the_draft_of_the_new_EU_Treaty
 * Talk:Edmonton_Oilers_win_Conference_Finals
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Hope this can help...

OrbiliusMagister. 21:40, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Supporters of Canadian youth held in Guantanamo gather, demand action
"Reporting notes" wouldn't consist of anything other than "Hi, I'm Joshua Ainslie, an accredited WN reporter - I was there" - if it's that important, I can throw that on the talk page. Sherurcij refusing to add Original Reporting until PD Articles are allowed'' 08:27, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm sure "getting reporters to turn in their notes" sounds like a great idea when planning how to make sure some kid isn't lying about there being a massacre at the dog show - but no, I'm not going to "turn in" my notes to be scrutinized. I do thank you for catching my typo as my brain outpaced my eyes, I admit I was perhaps premature in adding the Publish tag without thoroughly vetting the article. Sherurcij refusing to add Original Reporting until PD Articles are allowed'' 08:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

2007/08 Bundesliga: Borussia Dortmund vs. Bayern Munich
The article is going to be published in 10 days. I would like to avoid doing the tedious templates the day of the game. So can you restore the page? Kingjeff 20:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: good
Hi Doldrums. Thanks. I hope you are able to drop in when you can. Cheers, Jcart1534 22:07, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Borrowed some
Hi Doldrums. I hope you don't mind, but I unashamedly ripped-off your archive templates! Hope you are well. Cheers, Jcart1534 02:39, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanx! nice to be remembered...  Amgine | sw 07:41, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

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French presidential candidate Sarkozy accuses left parties of betraying left values

April 14, 2007

Nicolas Sarkozy, the political party UMP's candidate for the  in France, which enters its first round next week, held a campaign meeting in Toulouse last Thursday, where he accused the left side political parties of betraying the ideals of,  and other key socialist politicians. He compared the "left of old times" with the left nowadays, and said he wanted to "bring back to the heart of politics the values that the left side parties have betrayed."

Former mayor of Toulouse welcomed more than 14 000 attendees to the city's Parc des Expositions. He summarized the candidates political program by saying: "The Republic [of France, red.] is not about defending laxity and impunity for the agitators, it's about guaranteeing the security and freedom of all through the respect of the laws and Justice." Sarkozy was Minister of Interior Affairs during the, when he instituted a zero-tolerance policy. Of one of Sarkozy's rivals,, Douste-Blazy said that France didn't need a President who "undergoes and refuses to make choices."

In his speech of more than one hour, Sarkozy claimed the historical heritage of the founders of socialism and their values of right to work, payed holidays, social security, unemployment benefits, education, liberty of conscience, and of moral rights and the rights of the individual: "These values, I've wanted the Republican right side to reclaim them at a moment when the left side abandons them." He also criticised, chairman of the French Socialist Party, and with him his wife and the socialist candidate for the Presidential elections, , who, according to Sarkozy, "has forgotten Blum and , and doesn't know Jaurès."

A week ago, Ségolène Royal held a speech in Carmaux, the home of Jaurès, where she proposed herself in continuity with Jaurès' battle for the values of employment, concluding her speech by saying: "It's important for the left side to know where we come from, because that helps also to foresee the future."

On Wednesday, she held a meeting in, where she accused Sarkozy of wanting to exercise power alone, of knowing everything, of wanting an unequal health care system and of following the laws of money. "He proposes us the law of the strongest. Do you want it? Me neither! And I propose to you the law of most justice."


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Talk:French presidential candidate Sarkozy accuses left parties of betraying left values

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User:Guillom visited the convention. See French article.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

balance
how about giving the lefties a chance to rebut? –Doldrums(talk) 12:15, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think they were there. Guillom went to this event and is reporting what he saw and heard. Any response the left may have should be in another article. --SVTCobra 12:22, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * this idea that news articles reporting someone's speech shld refrain from reporting background info or responses (especially from those identified and commented on) goes flatly against standard reporting practice. un-spinning political speeches by providing factual info and the "right to reply" are a key part of what makes a news report. we are not this public speaker or that politician's press office to report only what he or she says and deliberately refrain from reporting any other facts or views. any such articles also goes against the WN:NPOV policy we have.
 * the "lets leave it for another article" idea doesn't wash. notable public speeches get coverage. sundry responses the next day are as often as not not reported on at all. further, each article shld strive to cover what issues it touches upon neutrally, rather than one article today spouting only pro-your-favorite-public-issue views and another article tmrrw spouting anti-your-favorite-public-issue views.
 * this seems so obvious to me that frankly, i'm astonished that i'm debating this at all. –Doldrums(talk) 13:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * What do you suggest? It's very likely that the left side simply didn't respond to these accusations, since this is simply election yap. Feel free to remove anything that you consider NPOV, or add anything you can find, but I agree with SVTCobra: this article is about the meeting, and if you ask me, it does in no way reflect poorly on the left parties.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * How do you propose doing that in a case like this? I guess if we can find it (I did look), we can add a statement along the lines "Hollande and Royal say they haven't betrayed their political ideal." But they likely ignored Sarkozy. For an example of where WN:NPOV was abused, please look at this article President Bush: 2006 State of the Union. So this is a report on the annual address by the president. A part of the event is the rebuttal by the opposition, which is correctly presented in the article. It also correctly covers protesters what happened to protesters that were there in the gallery. But in the middle of the coverage of the speech is an inserted response by Iran's president. That does not belong there. That is selectively debating Bush's speech and is not neutral. He spoke on many topics, why not a paragraph by paragraph commentary from people "on the other side". He spoke about social security, why not a comment from AARP? He mentions solar energy, why not a comment from the oil companies? He mention Hamas and Israel, why not a comment from both of them? --SVTCobra 15:42, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I've added some Royal campaigning, please remove the disputed-tag or explain how we could improve further.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 16:10, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

 * that of course, helps. one way to handle such events is to place the emphasize on a candidate's standing on various issues rather than the boilerplate 'yap'. that is useful information, and it is easy to add other sides' two cents about the issues. if this "leftiness" thing is considered important, an e-mail to the Royal campaign asking for a response is the best thing. there may also be boilerplate messages from the campaign regarding its values that'll serve well.
 * incidentally, !

 * Brian, are you going to smack the npov-tag on this Ségolène Royal calls for gentle reforms article too? I wrote the article in a neutral manner and provided plenty of background, but no, it does not contain Sarkozy's side of the story. He wasn't in the radio studio with her. And if I pick to report his view, wouldn't I be obligated to report the views of all 10 of the other candidates? --SVTCobra 17:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC) It's not a "two horse race" after-all. --SVTCobra 17:09, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * if that article has statements by Royal about Sarkozy that one can reasonably expect S. to dispute, then yes, an opportunity to rebut is important. while you're welcome to report all the views, they can (in fact, ought to) be in proportion to the "importance" of the candidates. –Doldrums(talk) 17:13, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I suppose I should send an e-mail to Sarkozy and wait to publish until he gets back to me. "Dear Mr. Sarkozy, what do you think about Royal calling your policies "harsh and divisive?" Sincerely, SVTCobra." Bollocks. --SVTCobra 17:30, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Its more valuble to have an article that simply reports on what was said. It's just election yap but English speaking countries could do with a little information about what the French consider to be ellection yap. It's a much higher quality of elction yap in France. Nyarlathotep 15:19, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


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Chicago wins 2016 USOC Olympic Bid

April 15, 2007 The City of Chicago has been chosen as the United States Applicant City for the 2016 Summer Olympic Games. The (USOC) chose Chicago, which has never hosted an Olympics, over the  and  hosts Los Angeles.

"On behalf of the United States Olympic Committee, we would like to congratulate Chicago on its selection as our Applicant City," said USOC Chairperson,. "Our ultimate goal at the outset was to identify the U.S. city with the best chance of competing internationally. In Chicago and Los Angeles, we had two outstanding bids and we are confident that Chicago is positioned to be competitive in the international field and will make our country proud."

Chicago will now submit a bid to the International Olympic Committee in September 2007, and the host city will be chosen on October 2, 2009. Other cities likely to bid for the Games include Prague, Rome and Tokyo. As the 2008 and 2012 Games are to be held in Asia and Europe respectively, it is likely that a city in the Americas would be favorites for the Games. The United States last held the Games in ppAtlanta, Georgia|Atlanta]] in.

Chicago's bid involves construction of an Olympic Stadium in on the city's South Side and an athlete's village on the shores of. Existing venues such as and  may be used for some events. In contrast to Chicago, the Los Angeles bid involved existing facilities with no need for constructing new venues.

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Talk:Chicago wins 2016 USOC Olympic Bid

Minimal Information I have started the article but I've left the rest of the writing to someone else. Thanks in advance. --Charlie Dunk 20:36, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:Ycanneh~enwikinews

Hello Please Leave A Message

NOTICE

 * You're a sock of user:MyName which is indef blocked user (which you admitted by stating you created an article he created, also your ip is one commonly used by MyName), you also admited you are w:user:Ycanneh, which is blocked (that isn't a reason for blocking, but doesn't look look good), and you pissed an admin off.
 * Note If you want to continue doing stuff, you're free to write articles on this page. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

"A Message"

 * a message Bawolff ☺☻ 21:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Ycanneh 21:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * On a serious note, welcome to wikinews, if you need any help with anything don't hesitate to ask, Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:02, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Spelling Conventions
Hi, I have a question regarding spelling conventions. What is standard practice in choosing between AMerican style and English style English. I'm looking atHorse_racing:_Silver_Birch_wins_the_2007_Grand_National. specifically the word "favourite" would it be appropiate for me to change it to "favorite" or keep it how it is? Thanks? Ycanneh 21:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Umm i think it was we use the variant of whoever started the article. So if it started with British English, we do the article as British en, if it started as en-us, we keep it at that. see WN:SG for more details. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. Ycanneh 21:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Most of the time we use the locality of story, if there is no clear locality then we fall back on first writer decides. For the most part though as long as the two types are not mixed in the same story either is ok. --Cspurrier 21:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

javascript
Try user:Ycanneh/monobook.js (as oposed to user talk:). By the way the stuff in mine does didly squat, and is really not that useful if you're wondering. The top half only allows you to open one show/hide dynamic box in a page at a time. the bottom half is me experimenting with the comment tab, and is supposed to be commented out, since its now in the sitewide js, but isn't because i'm lazy. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:52, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya, thanks. I'll probally just go w/out it anyway. Over on WIkipedia I use some stuff, but changes dont seem to go too fast here anyway to the point that I would need any shortcuts or anything. Ycanneh 17:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Protection
There is more than one level of protection. The article isn't protected from edits, just from renaming to stop us having any more redirects than we absolutely need. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:03, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Protection?
The protection is a moveprotect. Users can still edit the article. It would be unfeasible for the article title to be updated every time a new figure is released - causes many broken double redirects. --Skenmy(t•c•w•i) 21:03, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * SOrry, I didn't realize it was only move protected. Ycanneh 21:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

A secret
Hi there,

just wanted to say that I really like your contributions on this site. Also, I wanted to inform you that Wikipedia's GFDL license prevents us from redistributing the content under our cc-by-2.5 license: in other words, you can tell newbies that copying from Wikipedia is against the rules. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Ycanneh. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Ycanneh~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:40, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:41, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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User:Bawolff/onebox.js

//This scrit makes it so you can only have one dynamic nav box open at a time //To use: /* //Insert user:Bawolff/onebox.js - only allow one box open at a time var url = "http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=user:Bawolff/onebox.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"; var scriptElem = document.createElement( 'script' ); scriptElem.setAttribute( 'src', url ); scriptElem.setAttribute( 'type', 'text/javascript' ); document.getElementsByTagName( 'head' )[0].appendChild( scriptElem );
 * Add only the part directly below to your special:mypage/monobook.js (or whatever skin you use):

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 * Do not add the part under this line:

// ============================================================ // BEGIN Dynamic Navigation Bars (experimental)

// set up the words in your language var LOCAL_NavigationBarHide = '[ you suck! ]'; var LOCAL_NavigationBarShow = '[ Give Me More! ]';

// set up max count of Navigation Bars on page, // if there are more, all will be hidden // NavigationBarShowDefault = 0; // all bars will be hidden // NavigationBarShowDefault = 1; // on pages with more than 1 bar all bars will be hidden var LOCAL_NavigationBarShowDefault = 1;

// shows and hides content and picture (if available) of navigation bars // Parameters: //    indexNavigationBar: the index of navigation bar to be toggled function LOCAL_toggleNavigationBar(LOCAL_indexNavigationBar) {  var LOCAL_NavToggle = document.getElementById("NavToggle" + LOCAL_indexNavigationBar); var LOCAL_NavFrame = document.getElementById("NavFrame" + LOCAL_indexNavigationBar);

if (!LOCAL_NavFrame || !LOCAL_NavToggle) { return false; }

// if shown now if (LOCAL_NavToggle.firstChild.data == LOCAL_NavigationBarHide) { for (              var LOCAL_NavChild = LOCAL_NavFrame.firstChild;               LOCAL_NavChild != null;               LOCAL_NavChild = LOCAL_NavChild.nextSibling           ) { if (LOCAL_NavChild.className == 'NavPic') { LOCAL_NavChild.style.display = 'none'; }          if (LOCAL_NavChild.className == 'NavContent') { LOCAL_NavChild.style.display = 'none'; }      }   LOCAL_NavToggle.firstChild.data = LOCAL_NavigationBarShow;

// if hidden now } else if (LOCAL_NavToggle.firstChild.data == LOCAL_NavigationBarShow) { //Start hiding all open boxes. things with f is loops to close everything for (              f = 1;               f < 50; //prevent indef loop               f++            )  { var LOCAL_f_NavToggle = document.getElementById("NavToggle" + f); var LOCAL_f_NavFrame = document.getElementById("NavFrame" + f);

if (!LOCAL_f_NavFrame || !LOCAL_f_NavToggle) { break; }                 for (                     var LOCAL_f_NavChild = LOCAL_f_NavFrame.firstChild;                     LOCAL_f_NavChild != null;                     LOCAL_f_NavChild = LOCAL_f_NavChild.nextSibling                      ) { if (LOCAL_f_NavChild.className == 'NavPic') { LOCAL_f_NavChild.style.display = 'none'; }                          if (LOCAL_f_NavChild.className == 'NavContent') { LOCAL_f_NavChild.style.display = 'none'; }                       }                 LOCAL_f_NavToggle.firstChild.data = LOCAL_NavigationBarShow; }

//open selected one

for (              var LOCAL_NavChild = LOCAL_NavFrame.firstChild;               LOCAL_NavChild != null;               LOCAL_NavChild = LOCAL_NavChild.nextSibling           ) { if (LOCAL_NavChild.className == 'NavPic') { LOCAL_NavChild.style.display = 'block'; }          if (LOCAL_NavChild.className == 'NavContent') { LOCAL_NavChild.style.display = 'block'; }      }   LOCAL_NavToggle.firstChild.data = LOCAL_NavigationBarHide; } }

// adds show/hide-button to navigation bars function LOCAL_createNavigationBarToggleButton {  var LOCAL_indexNavigationBar = 0; // iterate over all -elements for(          var i=0;            LOCAL_NavFrame = document.getElementsByTagName("div")[i];            i++       ) { // if found a navigation bar if (LOCAL_NavFrame.className == "NavFrame") {

LOCAL_indexNavigationBar++; var LOCAL_NavToggle = document.createElement("a"); LOCAL_NavToggle.className = 'NavToggle'; LOCAL_NavToggle.setAttribute('id', 'NavToggle' + LOCAL_indexNavigationBar); LOCAL_NavToggle.setAttribute('href', 'javascript:LOCAL_toggleNavigationBar(' + LOCAL_indexNavigationBar + ');'); var LOCAL_NavToggleText = document.createTextNode(LOCAL_NavigationBarHide); LOCAL_NavToggle.appendChild(LOCAL_NavToggleText); // Find the NavHead and attach the toggle link (Must be this complicated because Moz's firstChild handling is borked) for(            var j=0;              j < LOCAL_NavFrame.childNodes.length;              j++           ) { if (LOCAL_NavFrame.childNodes[j].className == "NavHead") { LOCAL_NavFrame.childNodes[j].appendChild(LOCAL_NavToggle); }          }           LOCAL_NavFrame.setAttribute('id', 'NavFrame' + LOCAL_indexNavigationBar); }  }   // if more Navigation Bars found than Default: hide all if (LOCAL_NavigationBarShowDefault < LOCAL_indexNavigationBar) { for(              var i=1;                i<=LOCAL_indexNavigationBar;                i++       ) { LOCAL_toggleNavigationBar(i); }  }

}

addLoadEvent(LOCAL_createNavigationBarToggleButton);

// comment stuff : http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Bawolff/monobook.js&oldid=403650

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User:Bawolff/Sandbox/superportal

 The superportal system requires the following javascript please goto special:mypage/monobook.js (or equivalent for the skin you use) and add the following: //import superportal system - user:Bawolff/Sandbox/superportal var url = "http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=user:Bawolff/superPortal.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"; var scriptElem = document.createElement( 'script' ); scriptElem.setAttribute( 'src', url ); scriptElem.setAttribute( 'type', 'text/javascript' ); document.getElementsByTagName( 'head' )[0].appendChild( scriptElem );
 * If after copying, and doing a hard refresh(ctrl+r), you still see this message, you did something wrong. Aperently doesn't work in MSIE 5.5

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