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Montenegro trainwreck kills 44, injures over 100

January 24, 2006

A passenger train carrying at least 250 people, many of whom were children, derailed in Serbia-Montenegro and drove into a ravine Tuesday afternoon.

Close to 200 have been injured and the death toll has risen to 44. Most of the passengers were schoolchildren returning from a ski trip.

"The accident occurred because of a failure of the train's braking system," said Interior Minister Jusuf Kalomperovic.

At about 4 p.m. the four-car train derailed near Bioče, a small village nearly 15 kilometers northeast of Podgorica as it was emerging from a tunnel above the Moraca River.

"The train simply went wild, out of control," said one injured passenger. "I was fine because I was in a back compartment, those in the front got the worst of it."

"It was horrible, I saw many dead and wounded around me," said another passenger from Hungary, Karman Chofu.

"I had fallen asleep when a loud noise woke me," said Stanislava Bukovic, 60, another injured passenger.

Miodrag Djurovic, the head of the main Podgorica hospital, stated that another five passengers had died overnight. Djurovic also said at least 198 people, 90 of them children, have been treated at the hospital. "The children's hospital admitted 90 children, 34 of them are still there, six have undergone surgery," Djurovic said.

Earlier Deputy Prime Minister Miroslav Ivanisevic told the media that the death toll stood at 30 and the amount injured at 135, but said those figures could rise as rescuers continue to reach victims. Ivanisevic described the wreck "as the worst rail accident in the history of Montenegro," Ivanisevic also said.

President Filip Vujanovic and Prime Minister, Milo Djukanovic also rushed to the site. "A terrible tragedy happened at Bioče and everything is being done to reduce the number of casualties as much as possible," Vujanovic told reporters.

Because of the accident, Montenegro's transport minister, Andrija Lompar, and National Railways chief Ranko Medenica resigned.

The driver of the train has been arrested because of suspicion of negligence.

The train was heading from the northeastern town of Bijelo Polje to the Montenegrin coastal city of Bar.


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CIA "rendition" confirmed in Europe

January 25, 2006 The Council of Europe is pressing member governments to provide information concerning CIA prisons operating secretly in Europe. In an interim report by the human rights council rapporteur, Swiss senator Dick Marty made public the 42-member nation's preliminary conclusions regarding CIA activity on European Union soil.

Marty reported, "Individuals have been abducted, deprived of their liberty and transported to different destinations in Europe, to be handed over to countries in which they have suffered degrading treatment and torture." The report estimates the rendition of "more than a hundred persons."

But when it comes right down to it, no irrefutable evidence exists to confirm allegations that the CIA operated secret detention centers in Europe. "There is a great deal of coherent, convergent evidence pointing to the existence of a system of 'relocation' or 'outsourcing of torture'," the report stated while further noting that, "It is highly unlikely that European governments, or at least their intelligence services, were unaware."

"Our aim is to find out the truth that is being hidden from us today", he said. He adds that he is afraid of "the pressure put on the media in the United States not to report on this affair."

A researcher for Human Rights Watch, John Swift, said; "Cooperation is going to be needed if this investigation is going to succeed. European governments are at a crossroads. They can decide to cooperate with this investigation and uphold European traditions of human rights, or they can continue their romance with the CIA. But they can't do both."

The report has also been criticized for appearing to lack new content and to be incomplete. Former minister for Europe and British member of parliament Denis MacShane has said that Marty's report "has more holes than a Swiss cheese." US State Department spokesman Sean McCormack has rejected the report and stated that it was an example of the "same old reports wrapped up in some new rhetoric. There's nothing new here."

US Department of Homeland Security secretary Michael Chertoff has stated regarding the US government that "the government acts in accordance with the law and with respect to the sovereignty of host countries in which it operates," and further stated that "The authorities are free to investigate what they want to investigate but we should not allow ourselves to be distracted from the need to identify, prevent and protect against terrorist acts of violence."

The group Amnesty International USA is calling for the US Congress to create a commission to investigate detention and interrogation practices. The United States neither confirms nor denies the existence of secret detention centers.

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Is this just a misstake? Serbia-Montenegro is not part of Russia! / Mats Halldin 14:27, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Add. --Milant 12:06, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Usually we don't do changes to older articles, but a Wikipedia link should be okay. I also corrected Bioče from the unaccented version. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:30, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Conservative party wins minority government in Canada

Possible POV(s)

 * 1. ...and general public perception of being plagued by internal corruption.
 * 2. This ends an unusually long campaign and also an unusually bitter one...
 * I agree that all these points are POV except #2 -- it has been an extremely bitter campaign and it's obvious to anyone. this can be backed up just by looking at the liberal/conservative party websites which have the TV ads on them. sinblox (talk) 18:41, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * That may be the case, however, the statement in its current form suggest that its a personal point of view. Jason Safoutin 18:45, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Re "unusually long campaign": This statement is incorrect. The Parliament's website has a list of the length of all campaigns. At 55 days, this campaign was just over average (the average of all campaigns being 51.54 days) and below the average of the 10 campaigns before 1993 (averaging 58.2 days). The 1997, 2000 and 2004 campaigns were each unusually short, being 36 days each. You have to go back to 1904 to find shorter campaigns than that (35 and 29 days in each of 1904 and 1900). The longest campaign in Canadian history was the 1926 campaign at 74 days. I have removed the incorrect statement. Andy 2006-24-01

 * 3. This must be seen as a depressing blow to Duncan,...
 * 4. ...and was seen as likely being part of Stephen Harper's cabinet. (possibly speculation??)

Jason Safoutin 14:43, 24 January 2006 (UTC) point number two would be true imho, but I don't think that makes it neutral.They were also mean to the ndp. Anyone know who the other is? Bawolff ☺☻ 16:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

 * I've attempted to address the POV issues that were brought up. Not sure what to do about #2 barring just removing it, if anyone could try a hand at fixing it, that'd be good. sinblox (talk) 18:53, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

more pov
thats not exactly true. although they had the memory of the scandal hanging over there head, the government (as in paul martin) was not implicated in the gomry report (as far as i can tell). Bawolff ☺☻ 16:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * plagued by scandals in its last months.

As A Canadian in Ontario, *plagued by scandals* would be fitting if you were speaking about the Party itself. but not the P.M.


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Condi Rice has confirmed that the US does "render" individuals and has stated that this is not contrary to US law -- perhaps a quote from her would be useful in this article... --Chiacomo (talk) 14:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * i do not know if it's a good idea, as her goal as departement of state head is to counter strick the European report, and until now US law is NOT Europe law. Sorry madame, it is not a very good argument. no ??? ;). but i agree It's all politic, and  difficult to have a clear view.

If you could find a transcript of the Condi Rice discourse or press release, i looked on but found nothing ??? Jacques Divol

 * Just as a side remark. The fact that the U.S. uses rendition to move terror suspects from Europe to Egypt, Afghanistan, Jordan or Syria has been reported by news outlets for quite a while now and was, as far as I know, never disputed by the U.S. government. (Or maybe even confirmed by Rice, I don't know of this quote though.) At issue here is if the suspects were tortured at their destination. This is what would make this illegal under European law, as they would be complacent in torture if suspects changed planes in Europe (as has been documented), or even if planes just use European facilites and airspace.
 * Also the working definitions of "torture" differs vastly between Europe and the U.S., as for example this case illustrates. So when U.S. officials use the same words as European officials, they might carry a completely different meaning and cannot be compared easily.
 * The most explosive question in this context is the existence of these prisons in central europe, and the report did not have much new to add to this point.
 * In some sense this report does not really contain "news", but if you conduct an poll to see how many people acknowledge these findings you would most likely find (I have no data on this, but I doubt that you could state these things on wikinews without getting into a mayjor argument.) that this is "news" to the majority of U.S. readers. So not sure what to do with this.

--vonbergm 20:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I added to the "see also" section a link to one of our stories which adds another puzzle piece to the board which either makes the matter more confusing or more clear(depending on whether the puzzle is ever completed). It seems that at least one US request for asylum for harmless(as now determined by the USA) Guantanamos has been misinterpreted as being evidence of a "secret prison" e.g. "In news reports last week, Czech and foreign media conflated the two issues: the U.S. asylum request and The Washington Post's story." And the "elephant in the closet" question is; why would the americans not simply grant asylum to this batch of newly labeled "harmless" guantanamos in the USA? Neutralizer 22:00, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I zoomed into this story when I logged onto Wikinews, only to notice after looking into it, that there really isn't anything much new with this Marty report. And then I now notice there is discussion on this story. Think I'll try changing the report to a more active verb tense, (no that's not even right). -Edbrown05 05:34, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Nice job, the article is a lot better now compared to last time I checked. --vonbergm 05:51, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the story is in the European and US wishy washy positions on the issue, not so much the allegations for this story. -Edbrown05 06:01, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

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CIA rendition 'confirmed'? I think that treads over the line. -Edbrown05 06:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * The original title on Council of Europe news page is : "Dick Marty: highly likely that European governments were aware of rendition affecting Europe". If you read the news you could read more than into the report (the words about media threaten) : http://www.coe.int/DefaultEN.asp.
 * Even if the facts was already reported into US or int media, here it's an OFFICIAL report from an International Agency, not just rumors Jacques Divol 09:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Marty says all kinds of stuff... the trouble with paraphrasing is it can lead to quotes supporting a POV out of context to reality. CIA rendition 'confirmed'? -Edbrown05 05:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

a good coop job !
My first draft was .... ugly ? thanks for this much better version ! Jacques Divol 09:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

sovereignty of host countries
This citation
 * US Department of Homeland Security secretary Michael Chertoff has stated regarding the US government that "the government acts in accordance with the law and with respect to the sovereignty of host countries in which it operates,”

might need to be put into perspective, for instance by citing the abduction of two people in Italy, without the Italian authorities being notified (,, , , etc.). Rama 09:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * good point; Chertoff's quote is a joke when compared with behaviour and the "sovereignty disregard" issue(e.g.abductions in Italy) would make a great feature but the trick is not turning it into an op-ed? Neutralizer 13:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * One could add more detail about several obductions from Marty's report, although this is not "news" and the article makes a general reference that these partices happen. Chertoff's statement illustrates the difference in use of language and application of law between Europe and the US. If someone in Europe would practice certain interrogation techniques and rendition practices that Chertoff dems "lawful", they would get arrested and convicted by European governments for torture and kidnapping. And this is what the "CIA prison affair" is all about. --vonbergm 17:20, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Prisons and Rendition
Isn't there a bit of confusion here. CIA Secret Prisons are run by the CIA for the purpose of secret interrogation I believe. They are also generally confirmed high ranking officials, while rendition(techinically would include CIA, but not what this article is refering to) would be the rendition to countries like Syria and Uzbekistan for toture. I might be confused, but that was my general impression. 12.220.94.199 03:35, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Imo, it is an exercise in futility to try to understand or apply the various military/governmental jargon that come from the pentagon/Washington. Terms like "rendition" or "unlawful combatant" are simply attempts to confuse average people and deflect the reality of the situations they describe. The term for that is the everpresent CIA strategy of "constructive confusion". At least, that's how it seems to me. But here is a definition of Rendition for what it's worth. Neutralizer 19:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Marty's report, which is discussed in the article, addresses several separate (but subtely linked) issues. One is the question of existence of secred CIA prisons in Europe. Another is the rendition and abduction of terror suspects by the CIA, sometimes of European citizens and while using infrastructure (airports, airspace) in Europe. When European infrastructure is used, or European citizens are involved, the respective European countries would be complacent to torture and violating European law. The main focus of the article is on this aspect of Marty's report as this part is based on solid evidence. --vonbergm 22:18, 26 January 2006 (UTC)


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Talk:Allegations of three candidates' drug ties resurface in Haitian presidential race/Guy Philippe letter

This page contains an editorial reply to the Miami herald by Guy Philippe, and attached to the artcile by a direcpc.com subscriber. It may be a copyright violation, or Guy Philippe may consider it an appropriate responce to our article as well.

Response to Miami Herald / Joe Mozingo's false accusations

To the Editor,

For several years now, your newspaper has presented a series of baseless accusations presented as proven facts. I am a defender of freedom in all forms, including freedom of press. I accept criticism and the people of Haiti know me as an easy going man. I have been told it is my sense of humor that gained me popularity in my country at a time when Haiti was ruled by Aristide, known for his dark and violent humor. But after Mr. Joe Mozinger's article on December 23rd, I believe you should grant me the right to respond to allegations that have caused me great harm.

First, you state that my campaign is one of the best financed. I wish! I wonder if you have been obseving the presidential campaign in progress in Haiti since October 8th, 2005. I was obligated to officially open my campaign later than any other candidate as a way to budget. I am the only front running candidate without paid advertisement on TV and without paid radio spots. There is not a single billboard in the entire country rented for my campaign. We are struggling hard to gain visibility precisely because we have little money. I am curious. Where did you find your information? It is quite obvious that the only well-financed campaign is that of Rene Preval, with its daily 95 minutes of paid advertisements on Haitian TV channels, continuous radio spots on several radio stations throughout the country, its 48 rented SUVs (at US$180 per day, you can do the math), and its Washington D.C. based (probably highly paid) consulting firm. These are the facts, Mr. Joe Mozingo, and anyone following the Haitian elections can see the obvious. I challenge you to present anything that may suggest my campaign is well-financed.

Second, the only link I have had to drug traffickers has been successfully smoking them out of their holes as a Haitian Police Commissioner. For this reason, I was presented with the award of "Best Police Commissioner of Haiti" in 1998, in the presence of human rights observers (MICIVIH) and police experts also of the United Nations (MINUAH). Drug traffickers would think twice before financing my campaign, as my political program is precisely aimed at combatting the crime and corruption that has plagued my country.

I would also like to remind you that a government decree authorizes DEA agents to intervene directly on our soil after. DEA agents could therefore have easily arrested me had they the tiniest evidence against me. Two years have passed since I was one of the main actors of the armed uprising that ended the brutal regime of Aristide, whose links to narcotraffickers are now well-documented. I surrendered my weapons and since then, I have lived openly and my whereabouts have been known to all

Finally, I need to address one more amusing inaccuracy in your December 23rd article. You assert I have an alliance with Mr. Youri Latortue. I will just say this: against Mr. Latortue, who is running for a Senate seat in the Artibonite regions, the Front has presented one of our strongest candidates, Mr. Winter Etienne. We are confident that he will defeat Mr. Latortue.

What amazes me most is not that the "information" you presented as facts are false, it is that they are always located at the exact opposite of reality. Why did you not contact me or my campaign to check the information, or at least to get my side of the story? At this point, in your next article, I would not be suprised if you ally me with Aristide himself, Saddam Hussein or even assert that Al-Quaeda is financing my campaign.

I do not have the media savvy of Aristide's paid lawyers in the United States. But I am sick and tired of these falsehoods questioning my character and integrity and I wanted to, at least once, respond to them. You should check the "information" passed on to you by what you call in your article “US officials” wich of course you cannot name, and wonder at its own interests and objectives. None of the permanent prestigious international correspondents in Haiti (such as the French daily, Le Monde, or Radio France internationale who has been observing Haiti for more than a decade) has ever delivered these rumors about me that everybody here knows emanate from either Aristide's side or his highly paid US mercenaries. It is not a coincidence. Some US conservatives and some actors of US foreign policy cannot bear a third-world leader who can stand on his own feet, while some US liberals are not accustomed to a third-worlder who does not accept to be patronized and who does not sing the song of the victim and of the oppressed, as Aristide did. Both have chosen strategies aimed at defaming me. But, again, I am not a victim. I am a Haitian. I took arms against a sinister man and I will make no apology for it. But I have never touched drugs, never made an alliance with Mr. Youri Latortue and no, the Haitian elite, the drug traffickers and the foreign embassies are not financing my campaign.

Sincerely,

Guy Philippe, General Secretary of the Front for National Reconstruction (FRN), Candidate for President guyphilippe@hotmail.com 00 509 454 04 22 FRN (Haïti) 9 rue Casseus, Pacot, Port-au-Prince, Haiti


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Allegations of three candidates' drug ties resurface in Haitian presidential race

December 24, 2005 According to the Miami Herald, sources in the United States and in Haiti are saying that at least 2 of the potential presidents who are running in the upcoming Haitian elections have ties to the trafficking of cocaine, and 3 candidates for all positions. The Miami Herald names the 2 presidential candidates as Guy Philippe and Dany Toussaint.

Guy Philippe is the rebel leader who participated in the 2004 Haitian rebellion which ousted former president Aristide. Philippe has long been thought to be part of the trafficking of cocaine through Haiti, back to his days a police chief in Cap Haitien. Two top U.S. officials say that Philippe was once recruited to be an informant but he turned them down due to the traffickers paying him more. Philippe denies the rumors and claims that there is no evidence of his involvement in any smuggling activities.

Dany Toussaint has also long been linked to the trafficking business, dating to his time as a chief of police under Aristide's government. He has always denied the allegation.

The named last suspect is Youri Latortue, a candidate for Senate in Gonaives which is a major drug smuggling area. Youri Latortue is also the nephew of interim Prime Minister Gérard Latortue and is currently working as security chief. He is nicknamed Mr. 30 Percent due to the fact that he charges 30 percent in exchange for government contracts. The Prime Minister has defended his nephew saying that he trusts him. Youri allegedly has ties to smugglers in Gonaives who control the trafficking at the seaport.

According to the U.S. State Department, about 8 percent of cocaine manufactured in Colombia travels through Haiti before reaching the United States.


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Talk:Scientists discover soft tissue in dinosaur bones

Dinosaur fossil with soft tissue
I'm curious as to how they figured out the age of the bone that was found. Was carbon dating used? Some conservative Christian groups are using this as "proof" that the world is very young (less that 10,000 yrs old), and that dinosaurs existed along-side man. I don't like the way they are thinking, but how does one explain soft tissue surviving 65 million years? I don't even know of soft tissue surviving in human/animal remains from just a few hundred years ago. It would be valuable to include the answers to these things in the article, in order to clear up any confusion.

 * A bone is generally dated by multiple different methods; one would never rely on only a single methodology, but would prefer several or many alternative methods each with the same or very similar result.

 * Soft tissue survival has been postulated for a very long time. There are many observable circumstances in which it can occur, so paleontologists have been specifically looking for situations where it may have occurred in the past. The characterstic they are looking for is a death followed by encasement in a gas and water impermeable structure. This can happen in certain forms of tar, some volcanic situations, and with some postulated sea events - as well as other theoretical events.

 * The idea is that the tissue will only have the elements and biological constituents present at the time of death, and these will not be leached away over time by water. They will react in isolation, probably destroying any biological data (like dna), but they may still show some of the physical structures of the original creature. Think of a refrigerator which was unplugged and unopened for 65 million years. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 17:48, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, despite what evolutionists will have you believe, the reason it is still preserved, is probably because it is far less then 65-70 million years old. Logically thinking, and in accordance with Occam's Razor, real "scientists" without a presupposition toward any particular worldview or dogmatic following of evolutionary timetables, would come to the conclusion that the bones are nowhere near that old, and are much younger, possibly no older then 5-10 thousand years old. Unfortunately, evidence is not nearly enough when it comes to changing one's beliefs on the science of origins, as this discovery will no doubt have no affect on evolutionists' set timetable of events as it were.

My point is clearly outlined by the first response above: "Some conservative Christian groups are using this as "proof" that the world is very young (less that 10,000 yrs old), and that dinosaurs existed along-side man. I don't like the way they are thinking, but how does one explain soft tissue surviving 65 million years?"(emphasis added) So in essence, how can scientists now manipulate this newfound evidence to coincide with millions of years instead of taking the evidence at face value for what it is: proof for a much younger earth then evolutionists have hypothesized? I'm sure they are working on that at this very moment.

It's the same story with the whole of evolution: despite the extreme complexity of design in nature(whether we admit it or not), and despite clear evidence on the side of creationism, such as the law of biogenesis, the anthropic principle, helium content in the atmosphere, the red-shift paradigm(contradicts the big bang), retrograde rotation of planets, magnetic field decay of the earth, salt content of the sea, carbon datings(half-life of 14C is just under 6000 years), existence of comets in the solar system, the ‘winding-up’ dilemma (nature of the galaxy), tight folding of geological strata(could not happen over millions of years), lack of mud on the sea floor, such recent recording of history(evolutionists say stone age man has been around for 100,000 years, and yet written history only dates back 4-5 thousand years), and dinosaur bones with soft tissue(more then one discovery has been made on this account), evolutionists still will not concede to anything less then their dogmatic, logically- flawed system of darwinism(an infinite amount of coincidences, and lack of any empirical evidence).

I'm convinced, if God Himself appeared before each and every evolutionist on the planet, they would hold a meeting and try to figure out how they could explain it away as a cognitive distortion caused by an evolution of the human psyche or something. How much more evidence do you need for a young earth then what you have seen with your own eyes? Here's a fine example of how evolutionists interpret the evidence: If our satellites picked up a random transmission from space that translated into a series of dashes and dots via morse code, reading "we are your friends," but had no idea where it came from, would scientists assume it had no intelligence behind it because the creator was not to be seen? Would they assume it must have coalesced from random radio waves travelling through the solar system over millions of years? Would they assume that because the transmission source could not be found that science disproves an intelligent reasoning behind it? Hint: They probably would if they were evolutionists.

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Talk:Ford Motor Company cutting 30,000 jobs by 2012

See Jim Hightower on "Vanquishing the American Dream"
 * Something tells me Ford won't be happy until there are three people left working for the company. ★ MESSED  ROCKER ★  03:15, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

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"alot" should be "a lot" JoshuaZ 15:13, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
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Study: Partisan political thought is predominantly unconscious and emotional

January 24, 2006

A recent study led by Dr. Drew Westen, a Professor of Psychology at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia has concluded that political partisans use an "almost entirely emotional and unconscious" thought process when digesting damaging information about a favored political candidate.

The experiment used fMRI scans of 30 men who self-identified as either a committed Republican or Democrat. The subjects were given a series of conflicting quotes by either President Bush or Senator Kerry, and covered such topics as the Enron scandal and the current state of Social Security. The quotes were doctored to maximize the apparent contradiction, but were presented as factual.

The results suggests that many seemingly rational political decisions are strongly influenced by unconscious emotional reactions. Such conclusions match well results from advertising psychology which say that purchases are also not as rational as people believe. Past fMRI studies have found that Democrat and Republican partisans tend to experience different emotions when shown an image of a preferred candidate.

Westen will present his results next month at a meetings of the Society for Personality and Social Psychology in Palm Springs, CA.


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Talk:Interview: Danny O'Brien of the Electronic Frontier Foundation

Original reporting
This article is the second Wikinews: Interview of the month for January, 2006. The interview took place in the international Wikinews IRC channel, #wikinews.

The questions which were asked during the interview were drawn from a page set up to do research and build questions at Wikinews/Interview of the month/January 2006 EFF on the Meta.wikimedia site. Questions were also developed during the interview, sometimes leading on from previous answers and some which were completely new.

People present in the channel who asked questions or gave related information/links included (I think I have them all, but if not please add to this list): Submarine Spum, Mrmiscellanious, mbecker, KevinMarks, FoeNyx, felipe, Deprifry, and Amgine. The vast weight of the research and question development was undertaken by sfullenwider, who should have been moderating this interview but was unable to due to scheduling conflicts. (and he will pay for this )

A raw transcript is available at Talk:Interview: Danny O'Brien of the Electronic Frontier Foundation/Transcript-Raw.

Great Job Amgine
The interview is just fantastic and an unqualified success,imo. Neutralizer 17:46, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

How to pose questions?
"suggested by people on the research page." How does one know about and propose questions for the next big interview? Neutralizer 17:46, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Just keep an eye on Wikinews/Interview of the month (on meta-wiki). There you can suggest new candidats, too. --SonicR 21:23, 25 January 2006 (UTC)


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Don't re-publish things
If somebody un publishes something please talk to that person before publishing. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:54, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * The NASCAR article is not ready for publish and contains minimal information. Please do not re-publish without discussing on the talk page. Jason Safoutin 21:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

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Hi there, please follow the templates already made to change the article of the first lead. Additionally, please do not republish articles that have been sent to development, without discussing it first on the talk page. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 21:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
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Disney buys Pixar

January 24, 2006

The Walt Disney Company has finalized a US$7.4 billion deal to acquire its long-time partner Pixar in an all stock buy-out. The deal will make Steve Jobs, current Pixar and Apple CEO, Disney's largest shareholder with about 7% (valued at over $3.5 billion) and a member of the board of directors.

The merger was speculated all day Tuesday on the stock market and the announcement came just after trading closed for the day. Terms of the merger include Pixar's John Lasseter becoming Disney's new chief creative officer in charge of animation at the combined Disney-Pixar Animation Studios, as well as principal creative advisor at, the unit of the company responsible for research and development of Disney theme parks worldwide.

Jobs purchased what became Pixar for $10 million in 1986 from George Lucas's computer animation division at Lucasfilm. , its first feature film, came a decade later, and began a long string of animation hits, including Finding Nemo. Such successes proved to be increasingly elusive for Disney to manage on its own. The partnership between the two studios had become shaky in recent years, as former Disney head clashed with Jobs over the renewal terms of their agreement. In 2003, prior to his dismissal from Disney, Eisner infuriated Pixar's creative team by predicting Finding Nemo would be a failure. Steve Jobs broke off negotiations in January 2004, having told one executive previously, "I don't see how the relationship can continue as long as Eisner is there."

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Other sources
I got first wind of the annoucement on CNBC. --TUFKAAP 21:43, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikify
Wikify •–• 23:22, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * This was wikified a couple of months ago. --Pi zero (talk) 23:51, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I can see Disney and Toy Story aren't wikified. Nor is Finding Nemo. The Walt Disney Company != Disney •–• 00:11, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Dewized John Lasseter, wikilinked . Don't know what you have in mind re Disney. --Pi zero (talk) 17:28, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

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U.S. Democrats highlight water quality issues for troops in Iraq

January 24, 2006

According to former employees of the Halliburton subsidiary KBR and internal company documents, coalition troops at a U.S. military base in Iraq may have been exposed to contaminated water and the company purportedly blocked efforts to alert the U.S. military.

"We exposed a base camp population (military and civilian) to a water source that was not treated," reads a July 15, 2005 memo by William Granger, KBR's official in charge of water quality in Iraq and also Kuwait.

"The level of contamination was roughly two times the normal contamination of untreated water from the Euphrates River," Granger said in documents distributed amongst the press by Democrats, who are holding a public inquiry into the allegations.

Halliburton issued a statement stating it had found "no evidence to substantiate allegations made by these former employees."

Ken May, another former KBR employee, said that instances of diarrhea and stomach cramps were numerous.

Halliburton stated that their own inspection found no contaminated water, and no medical evidence to substantiate the claims of illness. According to Marine Corps Major Tim Keefe – a military spokesman – a military medical unit found nothing out of the ordinary with regards to the water quality. Keefe stated, "The allegations appear not to have merit."

Water expert Ben Carter, of Cedar City, Utah, wrote, "It is my opinion that the water source is without question contaminated with numerous micro-organisms, including Coliform bacteria. There is little doubt that raw sewage is routinely dumped upstream of intake much less than the required two mile distance."

Carter said that after he told company officials that they should notify the military, "They told me it was none of my concern and to keep my mouth shut," he said.

"They brushed it under the carpet," Carter said. "I told everyone, 'Don't take showers, use bottled water.'"

According to a July 14, 2005 report authored by Jennifer Dellinger, it is claimed that Halliburton's public relations department was aware of the problem, a statement from the department is claimed to state, "I don't want to turn it into a big issue right now, but if we end up getting some media calls I want to make sure we have all the facts so we are ready to respond."


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No actionable objections?
Apparently Amgine made a mistake by tagging this article as he says "see talk" but there is nothing here. Maybe he meant to tag a different article? I will wait awhile before removing tag to see if he comes forward with something. Neutralizer 22:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

NPOV
The documents cited in this article are third and more hand removed, yet are being quoted as stating facts which are not in fact supported.

 * According to Haliburton employees and internal documents, coalition troops at a U.S. military base in Iraq were exposed to contaminated water and Halliburton blocked efforts to alert the U.S. military.

This lede includes misinformation and unsupported statements. According to a former Kellog, Brown, and Root employee's testimony to Senate Democrats, and documents he created and filed, KBR employees were exposed to water which tested twice as high for contaminates as the raw water from the river Euphrates. Although it is quite possible this water is dangerously contaminated there are no facts sited here which allows the statement "contaminated water" (all water is considered contaminated, btw; the degree of contamination is what is measured.)

Further, these were KBR employees who were exposed; the US military may have been using the exact same water sources, but we don't have facts which say this. And the accusation is that KBR blocked the reporting of this to the US military, and KBR is a subsidiary of Halliburton but is yet a separate company.

Similar misinformation and innuendo is used in this article, resulting in a strong POV bias in this article. This is a misuse of sources, but its strongly political nature suggests it is done with purpose and malice and so it is tagged as a violation of NPOV. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 22:11, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Please assume good faith,Amgine
Amgine, I will not be baited but your comment above "its strongly political nature suggests it is done with purpose and malice" does not sit well with either me nor the project's stated policy of assume good faith. You've preached this policy enough; how about following it yourself? Neutralizer 22:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

 * I tried to include all of Halliburton's responses. I don't think any edits by me will satisfy Amgine since he is assuming malice on my part. In the name of peace I will have to leave this article to others. Neutralizer 22:36, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

 * I strongly suspect that the initial version of this article has been written based on the authors world-view and the support given to that by the sources which are not clear that the promotion of this issue is partisan. I have made a number of edits, and I would appreciate if any outstanding issues be specified here.  --Brian McNeil / talk 23:23, 24 January 2006 (UTC)


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The WB and UPN networks to become the CW network

January 24, 2006 Warner Bros. Entertainment (a division of Time Warner, Inc.) and CBS Corporation announced today the merger of their two struggling television networks together to form one jointly owned network which will debut this fall.

The new network, which is to be called CW (for CBS-Warner) will replace UPN and The WB networks, which will shut down. The network will be a 50-50 partnership between CBS and Warner Brothers. The network will be carried on stations owned by the Tribune Company, amongst others. The merger is in response to the struggling of both networks, neither of which have attracted much viewership away from the big four networks since they being formed in the early 90s. However each have had some strengths. The WB has been more popular with younger viewers and has had hits with television shows Smallville and Gilmore Girls. UPN has recently received critical acclaim for its sitcom Everybody Hates Chris and World Wrestling Entertainment's Smackdown! has been a mainstay since it debuted on the network. The new network's schedule will be announced in May; until then the networks will operate their schedules independently. The new network is planning to target the 18-34 age bracket in prime time, and will contain both shows from the WB and UPN.

With UPN's 12 affiliated station, together with Tribune's 16 stations gives the new network coverage over half of the country. The Tribune stations that will be apart of the new network is WGN in Chicago, WB flagship station, WPIX in New York and KTLA in Los Angeles. WPIX will become the flagship station of the new network. Tribune will relinquish its 22.5% stake in the WB in return for a 10-year affiliation agreement with the network in turn.

Dawn Ostroff, currently the president of UPN, will become president of entertainment and John Maatta, currently the chief operating officer of the WB, will become chief operating officer of the CW.


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Template talk:Xt

You can see a summary of most of this discussion, originally summarized by Unforgettableid, here.

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This template is for what I call the "experimental talk" project. I believe article discussion should be fair game for talk pages, so that more people will learn to use the "edit this page" feature and become editors. What are your thoughts on experimental talk? Tell your fellow Wikipediholics on Template_talk:xt.

Also, if someone chose an appropriate icon from the selection of stub icons fro w:WP:WSS/ST, I would be very appreciative.

Finally, I encourage you to add this template,, to all your news articles. :) Only the first line will appear in the articles themselves. Unforgettableid 18:37, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

 * This has come up before and I belive there's a policy against it. However If there isn't, you may be intreasted in User:Bawolff/idea. I personally think comments are a good think and will increase readership. Bawolff (-[[image:smile.png]] 19:00, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I'd say you need a separate page altogether, a "have your say" where the flaming fest can be contained. Talk pages are for working towards a better article, not discussion on the news in the article. Brian McNeil / talk 19:02, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Bawolff, I like your idea. Could that "Post a comment" link be made into a template? Or even, could you modify this template to do that? Also, does anyone here know if there really is such a policy? Brianmc, would Bawolff's idea satisfy you? Try his idea page's button. It's fun, and it puts the comments right in your face. (ZDnet only shows subject headings of comments, we could show everything, like Slashdot does, with his idea.) Unforgettableid 21:09, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Insert  at the bottom of any article. Bawolff (-[[image:smile.png]]
 * While it's not something to get into a huge argument about, the purpose of a talk page is to discuss and better an article -- if some conversation goes on, so be it. It's important to remember that Wikinews is not a bulletin board/news forum/chat group. --Chiacomo (talk) 02:26, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

 * OK, I found the link to Wikinews is not a bulletin board/news forum/chat group -- it's WN:NOT -- but why is this so? Letting our users edit in order to comment, will teach them how to edit pages. Unforgettableid 05:26, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

If i remember correctly when this came up before, the main concerns have been NPOV SPAM and if we can delete spam coments/what comments can we delete. I think the best way to deal with that is deal with it as it comes up. We can always cancel the comment thing if its a misrible failure. I personnally like the idea of comments. I also could easily modify this template to do it as you describe. (not today, I've only got 5 minutes right now, but I could do it tommorow) I also think that comments would draw more readers, and also let people comment on how the story could be better if they wern't sure about editing. Another thing to look at is how many people complain about /. story submissions (Not another Dupe/Thats one of the worst written summaries of all time - learn to spell a, etc.), In Wikinews anyone who complains could fix the story. Bawolff (- 19:03, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

 * My personal opinion is to encourage discussion of the news, no matter how. One possible is to modify would create a link to edit a comments page which, if it did not already exist, would be pre-populated with a template which includes a category which excludes it from the developing articles list.

 * Until such a 'magic solution', however, I have no problem with talk and comments on the discussion pages. We might want conventions to point out sections as talk versus working on the article though. --Amgine fixed by Chiacomo 'cause Amgine needed some "nowiki" tags.

 * I would urge folks to just re-do the page template and change the "discussion" tab to a "collaboration" tab, and add a "discussion" tab pointing to, say, the "Comments:" article. -- IlyaHaykinson 22:24, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Ilya, are you suggesting a new namespace? --Chiacomo (talk) 23:41, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes; I'm proposing that Talk: is about editing collaboration, and a new namespace be allocated for discussing the news. -- IlyaHaykinson 23:42, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * While I don't support discussing the news on Wikinews (except as relates to collaboration), if we must discuss, a different namespace with a different tab would be a good solution. --Chiacomo (talk) 23:46, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * With my template its on a sub-page, that could easily be changed to a different namespace without having to change all the tabs on the top of the page (not sure how hard it would be to change the interface. Just know its beyond my skill level.) Also if comments are directly on the article, it encourages more people to comment. Bawolff (-[[image:smile.png]] 00:03, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

You may whish to ask Mr.M for more reasons to not to do comments, because if I remember correctly he was one of the main anti-comment people last time this was brought up.22:58, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I'd much rather have this in a forum/message board system, however I don't think that's really feasible for the foundation to implement into MediaWiki. I don't generally like the idea of comments on articles, simply because it opens the door for anon message wars, then Admins questioning whether or not they should clean it up, etc.  It's all a little too much IMO when users could just as simply create a free blog in under a few minutes.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 00:48, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
 * MrM, usually, when someone creates a blog for themselves, only their friends read it. If people could post comments on Wikinews, all Wikinews readers would read it and as Bawolff agrees, this would draw traffic to Wikinews. Instead of going to the trouble of creating a new namespace right away, why don't we allow daring Wikinews contributors to include the  template beneath their articles without fear of an admin erasing it? Unforgettableid 05:07, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

As I've said, I oppose permitting comments that are not collaborative in nature. Already, discussions on talk pages violate the NPOV rule of WMF projects, but I suppose this must be allowed. Discussion pages, as they exist even with NPOV comments, still exist primarily as a collaborative tool for the creation and editing of articles. A seperate "Comments" system would exist solely to allow biased/POV comments for articles -- which is contrary to the mission of Wikinews and the WMF. All that being said... If we're going to allow comments, I would not oppose a new namespace for these comments if we must have them. I will oppose and remove (as an editor, not an admin) the appearance of comments directly on article pages. If we must permit comments, they should not appear on the article page itself and any template which is placed on the article page should appear below sources and be as unobtrusive as possible -- ideally a single line in a regular font size.. For example: To comment on this article, click here . --Chiacomo (talk) 05:17, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I generally only read comments on sites that have it on the article page. Ideally things whenever possible should be as few clicks as possible. The more clicks away the less likely someone to use it. Also a conversation that people see is more likely to draw them in. An alternative design for comments that we could use, and possible more constructive as well is something similiar to http://wikireason.org (new wiki, I think its a proposed project of WMF, not sure if its a demo or what.) P.S i brought this up at the water cooler, so more people will comment on it. My template will also put all comments on a subpage of a talk page so its not like there in the main namespace. It could be easily modified to use a new namespace if someone creates one. Bawolff (-[[image:smile.png]] 05:30, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

 * As I say, if we must have comments, the comments themselves should not appear on the article page itself as they will be NPOV and we don't want NPOV content on article pages... A link to a comments section would be acceptable -- if we must have comments. --Chiacomo (talk) 05:37, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm considering starting a wikiblog wikicity to handle comments for the various wikimedia projects. Of course, we could easily have comments here, but putting them on wikicities might allow the NPOV policy to remain more absolute here. And avoid spending wikinews server time on more complex code. Nyarlathotep 03:29, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

I like the idea of having comments on news, but there are a number of problems IMO. First is that Wikinews is a news site and not a blog, normally when you are reading an article on a website with commentary you are normally reading a blog. Do we want WN to look like just another blog? Secondly there are NPOV issues. Comments are rarely going to be neutral, you discuss and debate news and normally have a pre-defined point of view. If the author were to add a comment that wasn't neutral then it would look like their article was biased - Cartman02au 11:01, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Forum namespace
Like Ilya said above, maybe we should have a namespace for general discussions. We could call it the Forum namespace, e.g. Forum:Canadian federal election, 2006, since everyone knows what forums are. Then, we could declare that "NPOV applies to everything except the Forum: namespace." Does this sound like a good compromise? --Unforgettableid 01:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Not at all. That is contradicting WN:NOT, and I do not believe most users are in support of such a measure.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 02:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I disagree, I think a large portian of the comunity would support that. talking about this reminded me that no one objected to my proposal on the water cooler, which i forgot to do. (now in archives ) Bawolff (-[[image:smile.png]] 02:49, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I again state my entire objection to the idea of forums or discussions that are not directly related to the publishing of news articles or to the behind-the-scenes workings of Wikinews. --Chiacomo (talk) 02:46, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm experimenting, on one article only, to see how it works out. Experimenting and w:Wikipedia:Be bold is the Wiki Way. Unforgettableid 02:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, but it is entirely opposed to the mission of wikinews and NPOV -- and NPOV is non-negotiable. --Chiacomo (talk) 02:51, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It is not opposed to the mission. It is somewhat related. More discussion = more users and better articles.
 * I would support an experiment. NPOV doesn't apply to talk pages. (just to see if it works or not). (I would also like to push my own template, as seen in user:Bawolff/idea. ) Bawolff (-[[image:smile.png]] 02:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Bawolff, but doesn't yours cause the pages themselves to be edited? And that is even more controversial. :-) Unforgettableid 02:54, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * IT causes a sub page in the talk namespace to be edited. It just causes one less click, people see the notice in the page to go edit the discussion page already. Bawolff (-[[image:smile.png]] 02:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Although newbies would then fail to see others' comments before posting, leading to more duplication, it is easier to use. But isn't the "Talk" page not for general discussion? Unforgettableid 03:03, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * it uses a subpage of the talk page. (like talk:Random page/comments) Bawolff (-[[image:smile.png]] 03:05, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It can use any page in any ns. Bawolff (-[[image:smile.png]] 03:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm, do you mind if I edit it to use the "Forum" fake-namespace and to make the template take up less space onscreen? Unforgettableid 03:13, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * No, edit away but it might break my example (which I don't care about) url is User:Bawolff/comment Bawolff (-[[image:smile.png]]

Allowed?
This template suggests something which is not allowed under current policy, including the non-negotiable WN:NPOV and What Wikinews is not. While I am sympathetic to the concept, I am also opposed to being implemented on Wikinews itself. I am especially opposed to implementing it in opposition to policy. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 03:09, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It seems that NPOV applies to articles, not to pages in other namespaces like Talk (even though Forum is not a namespace), and especially not user subpages. Unforgettableid 03:15, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Remember Jimbo made all policies (besides npov which is wikimedia wide) works in progress (Category:Proposed policies) a while back.(if i understand things right) whats wrong with a little experiment? Bawolff (-[[image:smile.png]] 03:21, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, and remember user pages can be completely non-NPOV, so I am restoring the template to the bottom of the article about the election results. Unforgettableid 05:48, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Amgine, keeping in mind that using an alternate server will require confusing templates and prevent single sign-on, what server can we use?? Or, how else can we, the Wikinewsies, work towards consensus on (in some people's books) "bending" the NPOV rules for an experiment, perhaps thereby drawing more traffic and more contributors?-- unforgettableid | talk to me 06:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

 * This is hardly a confusing link. As for "bending" the NPOV rules, it is precisely why that policy is non-negotiable: You may not do so. Please keep in mind that discussion forums are not a part of the Wikinews mission; they may be helpful, useful, etc. but they are not part of what we do.

 * In case you are unaware, Wikinews is attempting to integrate with the blogosphere, to use categories as Technorati tags and to link trackbacks. What this allows is a wide-spread conversation of news articles created here on: people's blogs, through their comment sections, and even in some bulletin-board type forums.

 * As for this specific idea, consider you are already attempting to circumvent or alter the policies of the project in order to get it to fit. I am coming to believe that, were it to be integrated in any way directly on Wikinews, it would fundamentally alter the goals and missions of the project to become a soapbox forum, a debate and flame center rather than a collaborative community producing npov news articles. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 06:58, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

This is not allowed. It is clearly stated that a soapbox or forum is not supported by Wikinews, that it is what Wikinews is not. I don't know how much clearer it can get; policy stops this template and concept. Besides, moderating these areas where the discussion is just going to be flame wars is redundant for the community, we'd be spending time gaining nothing. There should be no talk of going against policy, especially for something like this, which is clearly disallowed. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 11:40, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Do you believe Xt would cause us to have less registered users and less contributions? If so, why? Respectfully, -- unforgettableid | talk to me 02:21, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * You're trying to blame me for a rule, and I don't like it. It is in policy, and you must respect it.  This is not allowed; no negotiations will take place.  People read Wikinews because we're different: we're neutral.  We actually attempt to make sure no side is advantaged over the other.  We aren't a forum.  That's not what Wikinews is.  In fact, that's what we've been fighting against.  Wikinews will never be a forum, nor will ever host a forum.  That is policy.  Additionally, we should be writing articles, not commenting about them.  This is drifting users away from contributing, and will only comment, which is not a contribution.  Voicing your opinion is fine in privacy, but we don't need to prove that we're neutral and allow all sides to be told.  We've already proven that.  If you all want, I suggest chipping in a few bucks US every month and purchasing your own server (I'll even configure it for you and install phpBB) to host a forum, but that's not what Wikinews does.  This proposal and others alike only draft non-contributing users and distracts those already on.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 20:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Policys evolve as the project evolve's. No one is saying that we turn all the articles in to POV ridden opinion pices. All that is being sugested is to have a place to consider the implications of the information presented in the article. this in turn will probaly draw in more users and in my humble opinion would be a good thing. The articles will still, and always, be undisputably neutral. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 20:58, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

 * It's another distraction this wiki doesn't need, and will cause more harm than good. Guaranteed.  NPOV never changes, and neither does the goal for this wiki.  This proposal looks to overthrow both of them, without any good aspects in return.  Perhaps it will bring in more registered users, but only so they can voice their opinion, not contribute anything useful to the wiki.  It also opens doors for flame wars, vandalism, descreet advertising, spam, and will undoubtedly distract users who are now needed to moderate discussions instead of contribute to articles.  No, there is no good I can see here - at least no good that comes anywhere near as much burden and loss this wiki will undoubtedly endure - the loss of two policies.  I don't see any good in that.  And for these users to justify this with an insignificant, unlikely scenario truly disturbs me.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 21:48, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

 * NPOV, as has been stated elsewhere, does not evolve on the projects. If it evolves, it evolves at the Wikimedia Foundation Board. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 21:01, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

To be absolutely clear, POV discussions about articles are something which cannot just be started willy-nilly. It needs to have community approval, and it needs to have board approval, and it needs to be done with much careful deliberation. This experimental template should be deleted.--Eloquence 21:46, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Is this somehow the wrong place for deliberation? Where else can it be discussed? And what is wrong with experimentation? Cheers, -- unforgettableid | talk to me 03:14, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Obsolete?
Is this template obsolete? If so we should update the documentation to refer to newer instructions, but keep it and its talk page as historical record. --InfantGorilla (talk) 14:32, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes it is, this is a rather old attempt that did not gain popular support. marked historical Bawolff ☺☻ 23:34, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

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User:Unforgettableid/Forum:Canadian federal election, 2006

Accountability
Finally, someone other than the Liberals won. Such a long period of Liberal rule made the Liberals complacent, as anyone who's followed the sponsorship scandal can see. I wonder if the Conservatives will reform the system to make our government more accountable, though. Unforgettableid 02:26, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

whish someone else won
/me don't like conservitives. (sorry) Bawolff (- 05:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * You'd be happier if the Liberals won? But then what would be their punishment for Adscam? They'd just feel free to go and have another scandal and waste Canadians' money again! Unforgettableid 05:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree that the liberals have been in power for a little bit too long. but change for change sake is a bad thing. Since there is no alternitave thats the exact same as liberals (minus adscam of course), my mind is divided, but I don't think that change just to kill the libs is a good idea. However a minority government is a nice comprimise in my opinion. (Obviously its not intentional, but it is Best of both worlds IMHO. Just hope another election doesn't happen in a year.) Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 06:04, 25 January 2006 (UTC)


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Iran promises retaliation for Israeli action against nuclear facilities

January 25, 2006 Iran is referencing the conditions of the, as justification for defending what it believes is its right under Article IV of the NPT to have nuclear technology and hold on to its developing nuclear program, despite great pressure from the West and others to abandon certain nuclear technological capabilities. Article IV defines ...the inalienable right of all the Parties to the Treaty to develop research, production and use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes without discrimination and in conformity with Articles I and II of this Treaty.

The Associated Press reported today that Tehran is planning a retaliation contingency against Israel should the country go forward with a strike against Iran's nuclear facilities in early March, as Ariel Sharon said may occur, before he suffered a debilitating stroke in December 2005.

General Mostafa Mohammad Najjar, Iran's minister of defense, articulated Teheran's position on any military action against Iran's nuclear capability, saying that "Zionists should know that if they do anything evil against Iran, the response of Iran's armed forces will be so firm that it will send them into eternal coma, like (Ariel) Sharon". He also proceeded to question the resolve of the United States and Israel to attack Iran on the grounds of violating international conventions concerning nuclear energy.

The United States government says that it wants Iran to comply by discontinuing uranium enrichment in its facilities, and said Iran will be sent to the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) over this dispute if Tehran maintains its refusal to comply with the international community

Both sides are clearly determined in their position, which leads to an interesting development of Mohammad elBaradei, the head of the (IAEA), saying that the US and other nuclear powers should themselves disarm as well if they don't want to be hypocrites, ArabicNews.com reports. Article VI of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty states that: Each of the Parties to the Treaty undertakes to pursue negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament, and on a treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control. The United States has signed the NPT, but Israel has not.

Another development which may foment further controversy also came Wednesday when Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad blamed the United States for a series of bombings in Ahvaz, a town near the border of Iraq, which left at least nine civilians dead. "Traces of the occupiers of Iraq is evident in the Ahvaz events. They should take responsibility in this regard," Ahmadinejad remarked to Iranian state television stations today.


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Talk:Iran promises retaliation for Israeli action against nuclear facilities

seems to need style & POV cleanup. tagging.

needs complete re-write
and substantial expansion as there is lots of source info available; imo. Neutralizer 18:00, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Having said that; there is a need for a good clear article on the current news on this issue as it is changing by the hour; apparently Russia has now nixed the UN security council option. Neutralizer 18:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I think I'm going to put this up for publish, since it has a good deal of info and sources now, and POV doesn't appear to be an issue

Needs to mention that Israel is one of the "other nuclear powers" and that Israel is not a signatory to the NPT in order to clarify Baradei's comment on hypocrisy.