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Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous/Archive/6

Stewards election
Hello,

The stewards election has started on Stewards/elections 2005. Anyone can vote provided that he has a valid account on meta with a link to at least one user page, on a project where the editor is a participant, with at least 3 months participation to the project. Stewards can give sysop right on projects where there are no local bureaucrate. Please vote ! Yann 14:40, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Many Wikinewsies are not really aware of the larger organization of which Wikinews is a part. Wikimedia Foundation supports many projects, including Wikipedia of course, but also Wikibooks, Wikisource, Wikiquotes, Wikicommons, Wikispecies, and Meta, in all the various languages. Each language in each project develops administrators and bureaucrats to meet their needs as the community grows.
 * Before they get to a stage with the necessary admins, however, they are often vulnerable to issues such as vandalism, or may need help establishing policy, and the all-important appointing of admins. This kind of clean-up work, and more, is handled by stewards. Stewards are entrusted by the larger Wikimedia community with the responsibility of being able to work on all the projects.
 * Because of the responsibility, and their impact on all the Wikimedia projects, we should all be over there voting! - /undefined 06:18, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

new user directory based on categories and dpls
I created a User directory. details are on the page if anyone's interested. i noticed wikinewsies, but this is less work for the user - they dont have to search cats to be in and join them one by one - and for display page - it can be changed/customized however, simply by moving/changing dpls. and they're easy to get to and see who's in them. one could even put links to the user groups wherever they like, such as putting a "sports editors" link on the sports news page, that links to the "interest in sports" category. In sum, i think this easier and more versatile. people are welcome to join, or ignore it if they like. cheers. Kevin Baastalk 05:05, 2005 Jun 4 (UTC)
 * I must say I love this Idea, its great; can I make sub cats to each region - eg. live in Ireland? → CGorman (Talk)  16:50, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Sure, whatever. I'm not the boss. Kevin Baastalk 18:15, 2005 Jun 4 (UTC)
 * I just don't like interfering in peoples pet projects. I'll add country sections when I get the chance. → CGorman (Talk)  19:46, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Why not just add DPL to the already-existing Wikinewsies directory? Seems like duplication to me. -- Davodd | Talk 09:32, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Transwiki to Wikinews from Wikipedia
At w:Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Melissa Drexler, some Wikipedians are suggesting the transwiki of a Wikipedia article to Wikinews. Please read the discussion and the Wikipedia article being discussed. Uncle G 12:47, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Administrators meetings on IRC
I just noticed where one admin was suggesting an english admins meeting on IRC to discuss some issue related to some contributor. I completely accept the right of individuals or groups to gather for any reason and anywhere, however, I hope that its not necessary for meetings that relate to Wikinews issues to be convened anywhere other than on Wikinews itself. Maybe we need a Wikinews chat room? Paulrevere2005 12:08, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * IRC is the Wikinews chat room. Just click here and you can access it directly from your web browser.--Eloquence 16:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I never use IRC, and I don't believe discussions regarding the site should take place anywhere but here, where anyone can read them/join in, and discussions are permanently recorded. Dan100 (Talk) 16:37, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I mean, people will always discuss stuff on IRC - naturally - but policy and proposal discussions must also happen here on the Water cooler. Dan100 (Talk) 16:39, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The issue that was the idea for an admin meeting was about a vandal who left a note on my talk page trying to get us to believe he was a well known user. It has since been determined that this was nonsense. An admin meeting was suggested so we could determine what we should do, since we would not want to publicly accuse a user of being a vandal until we were sure it was true or not. I personally think a private admin meeting is a very bad idea, however a public meeting with the other admins might be fun. --Cspurrier 16:49, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The point of my suggestion is for the admins on wikinews to get tohether and discuss what is currently goin-on on the wiki, these recent allogations is an example or what we talk about, I think it would be a good idea so all of us admins are on the same page.--Ryan524 16:56, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Deletion
Can you please look at the deletion vote for the article about the Aruban kidnapping? I believe that the voters are ignoring my criterion for deletion. Therefore, it concerns me that they may win the vote. Can other people please add their say? Superm401 21:26, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wikinews in Google news
Hello. I have asked |Google news to add Wikinews to there source list. . I think it would be usefull if some people do it for other languages. Is there a page that lists all websites that have weblinks to Wikinews ? --Youssefsan 12:13, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * I know that Google news has been in contact with WN (I think through Amgine or Eloquence?), about adding us to their news site. Part of the problem seems ot be that they want a "published" product, which is what the published category tag was working towawrds. Someone else will know more as to how far this went. Lyellin 13:55, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Wikinews is still in the beta stage. Does it want Google notice yet? -Edbrown05 14:01, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, I now see the beta tag has been lifted. :-} -Edbrown05 14:06, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually we are in beta - see the foot of the page. Anyway, it hardly matters - as Jimbo pointed out, Google News is still beta too! Anywa, I've sent in a request, but I faked my e-mail address (dunno why, must've been feeling paranoid!) Dan100 (Talk) 21:47, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Update: "Thank you again for your submission. We have reviewed the site http://en.wikinews.org and will be including it in Google News in the near future." Huzah! ClareWhite 7 July 2005 07:53 (UTC)

Fanstastic! Dan100 (Talk) 11:20, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

 * !citizen reporting being sought out in the news (of course!) -Edbrown05 13:51, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Categories
I've just noticed that we have two problematic categories: Category:Politics and Category:Politics and conflicts. This is a problem because obviosuly Politics would fall under Politics and conflicts as well. So, e.g. I labeled Serbian Parliament members accuse NGOs of anti-Serbian campaign only as Politics, and it does not appear on Europe (which includes &conflicts only).

Is it possible to merge these two? I am sure there are other examples of this "dual-categoring" as well. --Dcabrilo 11:39, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * That's a tough one Dcabrilo. I remember myself advocating for a category that was for 'Politics' only because it didn't seem appropriate to have purely political happenings mixed with occurances of violence. I think the category 'Politics' is correct only if a category of 'Conflicts' can stand on its own. But Conflicts' are so intertwined with 'Politics' that maybe it is best to eliminate the 'Politics' category.  From a reader interest standpoint, probably anybody interested in the category of 'Politics' would also be interested in 'Conflicts'. The first notion is often the best. I'd vote to eliminate the stand-alone 'Politics' category and stick with the combined 'Politics and conflicts'. -Edbrown05 26 June 2005 15:03 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we are a bit screwed right now :) I think that Politics AND conflicts is clear enough (as in politics and political conflicts) for us to eliminate cat Politics. I imagine the only way to do it would be to recat every article in Politics though? --Dcabrilo 27 June 2005 00:29 (UTC)
 * Merging them would be a step backward. I believe politics should have its own category. I never understood why politics and conflicts was made into a single category. The mayoral election of Tokyo or Los Angeles and a recent car bomb in Uganda or Isreal have very little in common and probably do not have the same readership. But under Politics and Conflict - they are lumped together. Many of our other categories also led to strange bedfellows in the past. Like the covereage of the new pope and the new Dr. Who shared the same cat --> Arts and Culture. That is, until Religion budded off into its own category. -- Davodd | Talk June 27, 2005 04:29 (UTC)
 * I think as per my original Categories and topic pages write-up, Politics should be a sub-cat of Politics and conflicts. -- IlyaHaykinson 27 June 2005 05:27 (UTC)
 * I did that (added Politics as a sub-cat of Politics and conflicts - I think I did the right way), but it still does not resolve problem of a page such as Europe - it does not include stuff only added to Politics to Politics & conflicts section. Any ideas how to resolve it? --Dcabrilo 27 June 2005 05:32 (UTC)
 * I looked into it, and we can just add code to list Politics articles under Politics and conflicts, but there must be a better way to solve it. --Dcabrilo 27 June 2005 05:34 (UTC)

Please help the lost Wikinewsies who are wandering the encyclopaedia

 * See w:Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Nottinghamshire v Yorkshire 26 June 2005.

There are some very lost Wikinewsies wandering around the encyclopaedia in search of a newspaper to write their (apparently original reporting!) sports match reports in. Please help them to find the newspaper. Uncle G June 29, 2005 21:33 (UTC)

"the New York Times reported the site appeared "blocked"
US helicopter with 17 on board believed to have been shot down in Afghanistan Re; the nytimes reference to the blocking of a website; does anyone know how and who "blocks" websites, and whether its legal to do so? e.g. if I wanted to "block" a pro-Blair website; is it legal for me to do it?
 * Sites are generally blocks by 'Denial of Service' attacks in which a hacker overloads a webserver with page requests.--Mitrebox

If it's a government entity that blocks websites, is that a problem for the citizens and if so what can we do about it?
 * Goverment blocking of websites is done at the ISP level and can generally only be done in nations that have goverment run telecomunications. This is not the same as a DOS attack and causes no dammage or to the websites' server. Users from other nations can still view the site.--Mitrebox

If the U.S. government is blocking the websites of its adversaries(e.g. Cuba) is that legal and/or acceptable?
 * Their currently is no international law on the goverment censorship of sites. While indivduals of different nations have launched DOS attack against one another it is not known that state run agencies have ever actually launched attacks at one another.--Mitrebox

I am really wondering about this reference to a "blocked website" in this article; especially because it is just mentioned in a kind of "ho-hum", "more of the same" way.

Are we collectively becoming too accepting about blatant and epidemic government censorship???? Where are the champions of freedom of the press???? Paulrevere2005 30 June 2005 12:54 (UTC)

As I just wrote on the page you deleted :
The default text is really crappy, but I do not think the publication system is so bad. But default text is real bad. This is hardly a wiki anymore. No new editor can feel confident in front of that whole stuff. You make a big error here.

The wiki was made to be simple. You are just forgetting this. -[by user Hushie]

Requests for de-adminship
Well, I think this is our first, but User:NGerda has been put on requests for de-adminship. I figured it would be good to get wide community input on this, as it is kind of a "biggy". --Dcabrilo 6 July 2005 00:32 (UTC)

Remove "WNN"
There are some serious problems with the attempted WNN "subproject"

 * The project is being conducted in quite a nonwiki way. Some of the people attempting to run it originally elected themselves "executive producer", etc. An email address at gmail was at one time used as the "contact address" by which one could "contact WNN". Who WNN is and how it could be contacted would be a bit tricky if WNN is to be taken as a Wiki project. How would a wiki project respond to email sent to it? Who controls the email address of a wiki project?

 * The server is hosted and controlled by a private entity. This gives serious problems, as the owner of the server becomes the sole dictator and improper control and authority is given to this entity. This is not appropriate for a wiki project, and is inconsistent with (non-)authority systems traditionally used by wikimedia projects. Additionally, the "WNN" site contained some errors, including script errors and something weird going on with the logo, which I think reflects badly on the real WikiNews.

 * A live audio broadcast is not a wiki, and has nothing to do with a wiki. A live audio broadcast has absolutely nothing in common with a wiki, and is in no way a wiki.

Placing links to this private, personal, non-wiki project on the front page and portraying it as an official WikiNews endeavor is not appropriate. Obviously, the whole point of wikinews is that derivative works can be created. However, these derivative works are not automatically official wikimedia subprojects. Placing links to personal derivative works that in no way are conducted in a wiki fashion, are not hosted on wikimedia servers, were not created by wikimedia consensus processes, andhave nothing to do with a wiki, should not be something the community tolerates. This, and most likely other multimedia-based derivative works of wikinews, should instead be portrayed as they are: personal projects at doing something with wikinews content. They are most likely useful, certainly interesting, but are certainly not within the scope of WikiNews itself. Samrolken 9 July 2005 12:26 (UTC)

I agree with all of this, but most of you probably already know that. WNN really is a blot on our otherwise excellent copybook, and the sooner it dies a quiet death, the better. Dan100 (Talk) 15:57, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Talks are underway for creating a prerecorded wiki-broadcasting network, and development is already being done on a wiki that hopefully will be approved as an integration with Wikinews. I am working very hard on this project, and I completely agree that The WNN link should not go on the main page, at least until the network is operational and approved by the community, but until then, it doesn't belong on the main page.  -- NGerda July 9, 2005 17:27 (UTC)

 * I disagree with both of you. The link should be on the main page and anyone who wishes to get involved should do so. I met an Ojibway native yesterday who told me that "wiki" is one of their words...going back thousands of years..for a lean-to.. and also is the name of a branch of their band [] so I don't think we need to get propriatory about the term or controlling about its use. I'm just glad some folks are putting out the effort on WNN. Paulrevere2005 03:47, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree that a link deserves to be on the main page- just not under Latest Wikinews Media. -- NGerda 09:32, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * The term "wiki" already is an abandoned trademark from a former U.S. yogurt-drink company which gained brief fame in the early 1990s when kids would collect the caps and play a collectible game called "Wiki" which was a sort of cross between Tiddlywinks and Pokemon. -- Davodd | Talk 09:28, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Wow
Can I just say, since the last time I wrote for Wikinews (around early May) there have been some great changes here. It is now so much easier to write articles, my praise goes out to everyone who made a difference.
 * :) -- NGerda July 9, 2005 17:24 (UTC)

Permission to use the Wikinews logo in a Barnstar?
Hi there. A Current Events Barnstar has been proposed over at the English Wikipedia in the aftermath of the London bombings, and we'd like to have the Wikinews logo on it. Who would we need to ask about getting permission for this? -- Kizor 11:31, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Erik Möller, our founder and visionary guide! → CGorman (Talk) 11:52, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * That's not really true. Erik has no power over granting permission to using Wikimedia trademarks, he is just a regular user in that respect. ;-) -- Davodd | Talk 09:36, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Why thank you. --Kizor

 * What's a Barnstar? I thought Eloquence had made it quite clear he was *not* our guide, visionary though he may be :) ClareWhite 15:07, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

 * He's just too humble! → CGorman (Talk) 17:56, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

 * No. Actually, people think he has more power/ is more important than he really is - which tends to get him in hot water with the real bosses of Wikimedia - especially when folk say "well, Eloquence (Erik) said I could..." in justifying questionable behavior. But we like him even more knowing that he is just like us. -- Davodd | Talk 09:36, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Kizor, the Wikinews logo may be used on Wikipedia. See your Template:Current event for more details. -- NGerda 17:26, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

Davodd is right. Requests for permissions to use our trademarks and logos should go directly to the Board, though in case of Wikimedia-internal use, declaring the derivative work to be copyrighted by Wikimedia should generally be fine.--Eloquence 18:31, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Breaking news
I've started an outline of what do do in the event of a Breaking news story- based on Clare White's interest in more explanations for Breaking news. Enjoy! -- NGerda 17:30, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * I like! There are lots of additions to be made, I think it will become a useful page for advice in the event of another Major Event. Although IRC is possibly the last place I'd go to to organise, does the chatter actually make any sense in a situation like that? ClareWhite 08:14, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I would think it does, it's the quickest way to communicate. -- NGerda 08:15, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Quick but not necessarily coherent. I don't know, perhaps we need a Disaster drill :) ClareWhite 08:49, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I do not support the mandatory use of IRC for coordination as is implied in the proposed policy. IRC chats, discussions and agreements are not wiki - therefore are not always recorded to allow reference by others. This, in the past, has led to an "us vs. them" attitude and resulted discrimination agianst or dismissal of opinions of those who didn't or couldn't attend the chat for various reasons. -- Davodd | Talk 09:13, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

The list is more of a guideline than a strictly-followed policy. Perhaps I should be clearer about that in the text of the guideline. -- NGerda 09:15, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeh, I saw it more as a tipsheet than mandatory guidelines. ClareWhite 13:04, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Maybe you should have left the "proposed policies" tag on it - which makes it very clear that this is an evolving guideline and open to input from others. I replaced it for you. ;-) -- Davodd | Talk 07:08, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Project close to passing 2 new milestones
Within the next 24 hours, Wikinews should hit 2 more miles stones: 2,500 story mark and the 100,000 page edits mark. See: Special:Statistics. -- Davodd | Talk 18:27, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Yeah i've been watching this the last few days, and as of now we have passed both milestones! Congrats everyone! → CGorman (Talk) 11:08, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Call for nominations: news excellence awards for WIKIMANIA 2005
CLICK HERE TO NOMINATE NEWS ARTICLES

In less than a month, the first WIKIMANIA wiki convention will be held. During the convention, they will award "best of" prizes for the diffeerent projects. News has 2 categories: Best Original and Best Summary reporting. Be sure to click the above link to nominate news articles you thing are worthy of consideration. Deadline is Aug 1, 2005 (Aug 6 for then-breaking news) -- Davodd | Talk 06:31, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

WOW!!! Wikinews Blasts off. Congrats to all
I noticed the dramatic increase in articles and went to [] to see our site traffic. July is what chart technicians would call a "breakout move".

I personally think it's at least partially a result of lots fewer dispute tags, which held back a lot of exciting stories before...but whatever the reason, wikinews is really busting out of its seams. Paulrevere2005 12:22, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I personally think it's at least partially a result of the image change we did on the dispute tags (changed the stop hand to a caution symbol), which no longer garners a harsh response from many who see it. -- NGerda 15:41, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * More likely - people stopped fighting and started writing. -- Davodd | Talk 17:40, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * People stopped fighting, London did a lot of wonders for us, even with it's tradegy... we've done things on the site here too, but nothing that really trumps those two reasons. Lyellin 03:39, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Work Experience?
Any body else had Wiki News as a task for their work experience?

California meetup
I'll be over in California for a few days. This might be my last chance to meet US Wikinewsies for a while (I'm from Germany), so if you're from California, and you're interested in a little get-together, please add yourself at Meetup/California ASAP -- Tuesday evening would be perfect.--Eloquence 00:36, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 * This sounds great Elo, but unfortunately I live over 400 miles away from the proposed meetup. Be sure to tell us how it went, and if any Wikinewsies travel to Southern California, be sure to let me know! Best of luck to you, NGerda 03:45, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

More breaking news
Just wanted to say very well done to everyone for the reporting of events in London over the last couple of days. Very quick, slick, responsible (acknowledging Sky scaremongering but not reporting it as fact) and good to see lots of different names involved. I've been keeping out of it - there's only so much breaking news the nerves can take - but I would be interested to know if any of the conclusions we came up with after 7/7 have been useful in handling it? ClareWhite 15:43, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Monthly Wiki growth rates - WN has fastest-growing user base
Once, again Wikinews is the fastest-growing Wikimedia Project based upon registered user growth rates. And despite the recent purges of abandoned stories from the archives, we appear to be fast-growing in content, too. -- Davodd | Talk 09:26, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Favicom
Is there any reason Wikinews has no specific favicom? It would be nice and useful to have a specific one distinct from Wikipedia one, specially in case we need to browse both sites at the same time. --Aphaia 18:57, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't think Wikinews had a logo when the favicons for Commons, Wikiquote and Meta where installed. But I am all i favor of a favicon for Wikinews. The logo might be a little too complex to shrimp to 16 pixels, though: [[Image:Wikinews-logo.png|16px]]. May I propose something like [[Image:Wikinews waves Left.png|12px|]] as a favicon? Väsk 19:17, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

I made one in January, for this very reason, but Elo never used it :-(. However we do need something. I'll ask around and see if I can get Vask's used. Dan100 (Talk) 07:46, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Babel
Hello! Two months before, I uploaded so called "Babel templates". ( I took them from the German Wikinews, whereto they came from the French edition.) Originally, I thought, they were under the Public Domain, but now, I noticed, they came from Meta, where they are GFDL. I had a discussion in the German Wikinews on that, and they said, the templates were under the Public Domain, anyway, because theu were worthy of protection by copyright. That may be, but I still have a bad feeling about it. That is, why I would very happy, if the templates which I uploaded would be deleted by someone. I know, that lots of people are not in my opinion, but someone of these people could upload them again to solve the problem.

Hopeful regards, Mg22 18:14, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Wikinews World Report
I would like to invite everyone to help contribute to this week's Wikinews World Report at this page. -- NGerda 21:01, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * How does one sign up to host? --Chiacomo (talk) 21:03, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Just leave a message on the talk page, and we can work this out. To host, one needs broadcasting software to connect to the server, and has to be able to broadcast both the Skype stream and his/her own voice to the server.  It would work out best for people to be co-hosts, or even host the show themselves by being part of the Skype conference broadcasted to the server, because it took me quite a while to figure out how to get the whole system working, and I pay extra to be able to route telephone calls.  So Chiacomo and others who want to host, you should decide if you want to co-host with me or host it yourself via a Skype conference to my account, and I can be the audio connector and switcher.  -- NGerda 21:18, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Where does one get the broadcasting software, free, I hope...? What about the WNN skype account? Will you supply that information when we get ready to host? --Chiacomo (talk) 21:20, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

I use Nicecast for Mac, but I believe that there is a free Windows streamer plugin for Winamp. Skype's software can't handle two users connected to the same account at the same time, but what I meant Chiacomo was that if you call me normally with Skype from your account, you can talk and host the show at near-CD quality audio, and I can manage all of the audio connections with Wikinewsies from around the world (both telephone connections and Skype connections). -- NGerda 21:26, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Here ya go: OddCast for Winamp. -- NGerda 21:32, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * So essentially, all WWR broadcasts will have to go through your box? --Chiacomo (talk) 21:29, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * If we want to have telephone connections (which I paid extra for and have no problem with that) and so far I've been the only one to figure out how to stream both a microphone and Skype's audio to the server while at the same time recording it. If you can figure it out, then it doesn't have to be routed through my account. -- NGerda 21:32, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

 * I Assume it's possible to explain how to do it Nick. I can pretty much be sure that until it can be done in a more wiki way, a lot of the common objections to WNN and AWN are gonna stand :(. Lyellin 21:37, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * It took me days to figure it out for Mac, and I have no clue how the Windows software works. What I am saying is that it is completely open to anyone who wants to try to route Skype and mic audio to WNN, but I have figured it out for Mac, and I am more than willing to let someone else host the segment in very easy fashion of just calling my account. -- NGerda 21:41, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, they would be able to explain it for the Mac, correct? We cannot have a segment, no matter how wonderful, completely dependent on one person, entirely. At least, not in my view. Lyellin 21:44, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * The instructions below are very nice (but perhaps misplaced) -- but I don't have a Mac (though I've thought about buying one)... Anybody got any clues for Windows (free software)? --Chiacomo (talk) 21:55, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Looks like you missed my comment above. No biggie. :) Check out OddCast for Winamp. -- NGerda 22:00, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Here's the process for hosting WWR:

Running Wikinews World Report With Nicecast
Nicecast is great for all sorts of broadcasts. Many people have expressed interest in using Nicecast for talk shows with Skype or iChat, so we've compiled a set of instructions for doing just that. The following should help you get started hosting a talk show or mixing in "callers" with your normal music stream.

Initial Pre-configuration
In order to set up Wikinews World Report, you'll need a few extra components besides just Nicecast. You'll need the following to get going:

 * Soundflower from Cycling '74
 * SoundSource from Rogue Amoeba
 * Skype from Skype Technologies
 * A hardware microphone. Current Apple laptops come equipped with built-in microphones
 * A pair of headphones for monitoring

Set Up
For our example. we'll be using Skype and iTunes. To set things up for each use:

 * 1) Launch Nicecast, Skype, and iTunes.
 * a) For best results close other applications.

 * 1) In Skype's Audio Preferences, be sure that the Audio Output is set to Soundflower (2ch) and the Audio Input is set to the microphone.
 * 2) Plug the microphone and headphones in.
 * 3) Using the SoundSource menu, select your microphone for audio input, and the headphones for the audio output.
 * 4) In Nicecast, open the Effects window, and insert the VoiceOver effect.
 * 5) In the Source drawer of Nicecast's Broadcast window, set the first pop-up to Audio Device and select Soundflower (2ch).
 * 6) Hit Start Broadcast.

You're now broadcasting out, and you're ready to go with the actual show. Read on for broadcasting instructions.

Broadcasting
Once you're set up as instructed above, you're ready to go.

 * 1) Again using SoundSource, switch the audio output to "Soundflower (2ch)"
 * 2) Play any desired audio in iTunes.
 * 3) When you're ready to take a call, open the VoiceOver editor window. Make sure the Crossfade slider is set to Program, then click Start.
 * 4) Fade out the iTunes music by adjusting the VoiceOver Crossfade slider from Program to Voice.
 * 5) Speak using the microphone, and accept calls through Skype.
 * 6) When you're done, move the VoiceOver Crossfade slider back over to Program, and play more audio in iTunes.

That's all there is to it. Once you've run through this a few times, it will become second nature. After your first broadcast, you can begin from the Set Up portion of the above instructions. Enjoy! -- NGerda 21:54, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Images in Wikinews
Often you load your pictures only in the englisch Wikinews. Because of that, the other wikinews can't use them. Can you load your picture in the WikiCommons please?--cyper 13:01, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Only "free" images are allowed on the Commons - the text you see when you click on "Upload fair use media" explains all. Dan100 (Talk) 13:12, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

We upload all images than are allowed on Commons to Commons. -- NGerda 17:45, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

Potential sources for World News
Does anyone else have thoughts on potential sources for "off the beaten track" world news? For African news there's always allafrica.com: http://allafrica.com/, though they're sometimes a bit slow off the mark.

Also of interest is Reuters Alertnet: http://www.alertnet.org/, and Zimbabwe's "Mail and Guardian": http://www.mg.co.za/articleList.aspx?area=/insight/insight__africa/.

For Asia, the Bangkok Post is often quite good: http://www.bangkokpost.net

There's also the Asia Times: http://www.atimes.com/

I sometimes also look at the newswires from Amnesty: http://news.amnesty.org, and Human Rights Watch: http://www.hrw.org/.

Can anyone recommend good sources for news on India and South America? Rcameronw 16:02, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Feel free to add them to the appropriate spots on Reference desk -- Davodd | Talk 08:19, 30 July 2005 (UTC)


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Baugur Group among others buy Illum Warehouse Denmark

August 5, 2005

I-Holding ehf, a Icelandic investment company owned by Baugur Group, Straumur investment bank, B2B Holdings and Birgis Bieltvedts, has bought 80% in Illum warehouse in Denmark from Merrill Lynch International Global Principal Investment. The same group recently bought Wessel & Vett A/S and Magasin du Nord, so it already owned 20% in Illum.

Illum will be run separately from Magasin du Nord.

Illum reported a profit and 11% gain in sales the first three months of 2005.

Skarphéðni Berg Steinarssyni from Nordic Investment at Baugur Group said the Danish retail market is increasing and they believe in Illum because it's a well known brand in Denmark.

Icelanders invest in Denmark and UK

Icelandic companies have been investing heavily in Denmark for the last few years. Recently the Fons Investment ehf. bought the Danish airlines Sterling Air and Mearsk Air. Eimskip, a shipping company in Iceland, recently bought the shipping division of Mearsk. I-Holdings have been investing heavily in the Denish retailer market.

Baugur Group, as well as FL Group, have been investing in the UK market. FL Group has bought 11% in easyJet.com and has shown an interest in buying more. Baugur Group has been investing in the retailer market and has bought among other things Iceland supermarket chain as well as Hamleys, a well known toy store.

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Reason for not calling the article "I-Holdings buy Illum Warehouse Denmark". Nobody knows what I-Holdings is, but Baugur Group is a relatively well known name in the European investment area..--Ómar Kjartan Yasin 10:23, 5 August 2005 (UTC)


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Four Israeli Arabs killed by Army deserter

August 5, 2005

A uniformed AWOL Israeli private suddenly opened fire in a crowded bus, killing 4 Israeli Arabs and wounding 12. A mob stormed the bus and beat the shooter to death. The Israeli government condemned the random shooting and mobilized troops in anticipation of rioting in northern Israel. The attacker, Eden Natan-Zada, 19, boarded Egged bus 165 en route from Haifa and sat mid-section. When the bus, carrying about 10–15 passengers, neared the bus stop at the center of the Druze neighborhood of the predominantly Israeli Arab town of Shefa-Amr in lower Galilee, Natan-Zada, walked to the front. When the bus stopped he shot the driver in the head with his M16 and began systematically firing as passengers crouched behind seats. He repeatedly shot Hazar Turki, 23 and her sister, Dina, 21, apparently to make sure they were dead.

As Natan-Zada was reloading his rifle and a young girl pleaded with him to spare her, Ahayal Jahnawi, 28 began struggling with the gunman. He succeeded in pinning Natan-Zada to the floor until the crowd broke into the bus. At first the mob mistook Jahnawi for the perpetrator and began pummeling him. They then began kicking and hurling objects at Natan-Zada. The security officer of Shefa-Amr, Jamal Aliam reportedly told Army Radio that Zada had been attacked by dozens after he had been handcuffed and subdued by police. Police were unable to control the mob, which wounded 5 officers. Magen David Adom ambulances evacuated the wounded to Rambam Medical Center in Haifa.

Natan-Zada had been absent without leave from his army unit since mid-June after refusing to participate in preparations for the Gaza pullout. He moved to Kfar Tapuach, a West Bank Jewish settlement dominated by the militant Kach movement. His father Yitzhak Natan-Zada urged Eden to return his weapon and informed the army that his son was dangerous. Eden's mother Debbie, speaking from the family home in Rishon LeZion was told that someone must be AWOL for 45 days to be officially considered a deserter and was advised to go herself to Kfar Tapuah to disarm her son.

Eden had recently become more fanatical and encountered writings on the Internet about revenge and zealots in Judaism published by the outlawed terrorist Kach group in The Way of the Torah. He befriended people from Tapuah over the Internet and apparently became involved in resistance to plans to remove Jewish settlers from territory slated to be turned over to Palestinian control.

When called up into the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) for basic training in May 2005 Natan-Zada went reluctantly, then refused to obey an order and was briefly imprisoned. He spurned advice to seek a psychiatric discharge under Section 21 of military regulations. According to his father, "When they told him to set up a tent city [next to Kibbutz Re'im] in opposition to his views, he deserted and went to Tapuah."

The dead

 * Michel Bahus, 56 (bus driver, Christian)
 * Nader Hayak, 55 (Christian)
 * Hazar Turki, 23 (Muslim)
 * Dina Turki, 21 (sister of Hazar, Muslim)


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British Airways to fly to Iceland

August 5, 2005

The airline British Airways have reported that they will start flying between Iceland and Gatwick airport, London. British Airways said they will provide the service five times a week; the first flight is scheduled March 26, 2006.

Until now, only two airlines have been flying between the UK and Iceland with passengers: Icelandair, the oldest and biggest airline in Iceland, and Iceland Express, a recent low-fare airline and the competition between them has been fierce.

Icelandair's PR, Guðjón Arngrímsson, said that Icelandair welcomes the competition and believes Icelandair can compete with BA: "This market has been growing rapidly. Iceland has been well marketed in London and Britain as a whole so number of passenger has been rising fast. We're always ready for more competition on every route between Iceland and other countries. We're ready and willing to compete here as we are on other routes" Arngrímsson said.

Birgir Jónsson at Iceland Express agrees. "Iceland Express welcomes the competition without a doubt." He then added, "The competition will benefit us all".

British Airways have reported the tickets will cost about €291.

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Laboratory fire forces evacuation of Australian National University

An explosion and subsequent chemical fire at the Australian National University this afternoon caused an estimated AU$1 million in damage and forced the evacuation of most of the main campus.

The initial explosion occurred on the top floor of the Research School of Chemistry in the early afternoon, and caused a fire which quickly spread throughout the rest of the floor. While no one was injured, the Brisbane Courier-Mail is reporting "widespread damage" to the laboratories. Furthermore, a number of computers containing postgraduate student theses were destroyed, causing the loss of months of work.

As the fire spread a cloud of potentially toxic smoke formed. A large number of fire personnel were called to the site and police, with limited success, attempted to cordon off access to the university.

Buildings downwind were progressively evacuated, including the central union building and students association at approximately 3pm.

Students in the buildings were asked to leave the campus entirely. There was a great deal of confusion afterwards. Police were able to clear the buildings successfully, but had some difficulty evacuating those who were already outside.

The university sent an email message giving a brief explanation of the situation at around the same time, but this did not reach most students immediately, leading to widespread confusion as to what exactly was going on.

Deputy Vice-Chancellor (Research) Lawrence Cram sent an follow-up email to the students at approximately 3.30 p.m. stating that the fire was under control and suggesting that the students in the affected areas should go home.

There were reports of activities being cancelled at the other end of the campus late into the afternoon.

While the remainder of the university will reopen Saturday, it is not currently known when the Research School will reopen, or just how severely the fire will affect ongoing academic programs at the university.


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The core of this article comes from the only article so far written about the incident, which was circulated to all the News Limited papers. I suspect there'll be more tomorrow. The other details surrounding the evacuation are an eyewitness account - it was a most interesting afternoon. Ambi 13:02, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

The emails that were sent to students:

Dear Colleagues There has been an explosion and fire in the Research School of Chemistry. The fire brigade is in attendance. There is dense smoke on campus and it would be prudent for staff and students to stay out of the smoke. Staff and students should stay away from the area while the emergency is being dealt with. The police have closed off that section of the campus. As far as we know there have been no reported injuries. Lawrence Cram Deputy Vice-Chancellor (Research)

then later...

Dear Colleagues The fire in RSC is now under control. Staff and students should not cross safety barriers until permitted to do so. Some areas may remain closed for at least the rest of the day. So, unless there is reason not to do so, staff and students close to the affected areas may go home. Lawrence Cram Deputy Vice-Chancellor (Research)

As to the other things that weren't in the Courier-Mail article:

 * I live with some postgraduate students who said they had lost theses
 * A partner for an activity that was to be held quite some distance from the fire later in the afternoon reported that it had been called off, apparently due to the campus evacuation
 * Everything else was what I saw personally; even the police didn't seem to know what was going on when I got there, and it was quite a chaotic scene when the police started clearing the main buildings. Ambi 16:57, 5 August 2005 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Questions for Jimbo

Kim Bruning is interviewing Jimmy "Jimbo" Wales (Wikipedia founder) at Wikimania. Here are the questions we want to ask him:

Wikimedia criticisms

 * Many criticise Wikipedia for potentially being inaccurate. In particular, one journalist suggested that Wikipedia articles are unsuitable as references for high school pupils. How would you counter this?

 * Some of the Wikipedia articles on science are somewhat inaccessible for laypeople - too technical. Do you feel this is a problem?

 * Wikinews has had little original reporting, and has rather become a "Wikipedia for news" - ie articles written from other existing sources. Is this is a disappointment?

 * Do you have enough editors to ensure that what goes in isn't crap? I've seen some writings which are so out of touch, and deliberately biased. And suspect the editors might not be able to detect the bias.

Wikipedia growth

 * Wikipedia's forerunner was Nupedia. What was your inspiration for that project?

 * Do you see Wikipedia becoming an internet brand as well known as the likes of Yahoo and Google?

 * If we reach google-levels of traffic, significant investment in hardware and software will be required. How do you see funding for the sites being sustained over the long term?

Jimbo's thoughts

 * How much personal control do you retain over the projects?

 * Are there any aspects of the projects you are currently unhappy about?

 * Make Jimbo say this again :-):

Imagine a world where every single person is given free access to the sum of human knowledge.

We don't have to imagine it.

We're doing it.

 * According to this Reuters article from Friday, you plan to restrict editing on certain articles. Can you expand on/clarify your plans? (this is making some serious waves at the moment - we need answers!) Jimbo's mail-list answer. time related.

 * Seems related: Some articles that became Wikipedia's examples of quality, called Featured Articles, have since then changed as much as to make them fall below the quality line. Do you think that in the future something will be done regarding minimum stability for articles voted by the consensus as "good enough"?

 * And another: With the reported tightening of WikiEditing Practices in the future in order to combat vandalism being sourced to you alone, will the change in edit policy be put to the community to decide, as per the rules of Wikipedia? Also, do you feel that the restriction of editing power, regardless of the relatively minimal vandalism that occurs, could have a chilling effect on the internet revolution of the Wiki? time related.

 * Have you read The Wisdom of Crowds: Why the Many Are Smarter Than the Few and How Collective Wisdom Shapes Business, Economies, Societies and Nations (by James Surowiecki)? Do you believe that eventually Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects will emerge as the most comprehensive and factually accurate sources of information? Jacoplane

Technical

 * Are you still looking for more offers for hosting?

 *  Google offered hosting earlier this year, but nothing has materialised - instead, Yahoo stepped into the breach. What happened with Google? He may or may not answer this

 * Yahoo has made a substantial offer of servers in Korea. Do you have any fears over hosting content outside the United States? Time related? Are these up already?

 * How do you think about recently announced Linux fund to Wikipedia? Do you have any idea how to use it - $500 for a month?

Future

 * Are there still plans for Wikipedia to published in print and on DVD? And in which language(s)?

 * How can you deal with the increasing amounts of vandalism? Maybe one day you can make it so you must register / log in to edit?

 * Some Wikinews members have expanded the project past just written articles and into areas of audio and video fields. Do you think Wikinews will benefit from these methods of reporting?

 * Will you consider holding the next Wikimania in India? Welcome to Goa...

 * Is there any time in the future that users may be able to use just one account for all Wikimedia Foundation projects?

Misc (but no less important...)

 * Whose idea was Wikimania? How was the location chosen? can't we look this up?

 * What do you think are the economic implications of mass, free content in news and information sector being potentially far more successful than traditional companies with employees?

 * Is any effort being made to engage the 1 billion+ people in India? also ask anthere!

 * Part of the tension between the Western and Muslim worlds could be down to a lack of understanding. Do you believe Wikipedia could help bridge that gap? Are Arabian languages supported? Is there much translation between the two, or exchange of editors? chosen? anthere knows a lot about this!

 * How goes the current relationship between WMF and other open source projects?

 * Is it legally possible for a corporate entity to use the name Wikipedia for an intranet application? For Example, AppleWikipedia or SonyWikipedia, etc. Isn't this a help desk question? But ok.

 * What things were accomplished at Wikimania? (just changed tense)

 * What are your feelings regarding articles about schools and the belief of some that all schools are inherently notable?

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Talk:Four Israeli Arabs killed by Army deserter

Misleading headline: Israeli Arabs Massacred by Army Deserter - four dead is not a "massacre" -- Davodd | Talk 17:01, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Terrorist organization?
Although Kach is indeed a militant group, they have been labeled as terrorists by both Israel and the US. I'm not sure, but I'll bet that if someone in the US contributes funds to Kach in the same way that one might donate to the March of Dimes they are breaking the law. Mpulier 14:54, 7 August 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:U.S. letting innocent Afghans go free after 3 years in custody

Why was this headline ever written? Was there an article that said these people were actually being set free? The article that this redirects to now says only that they are being transferred to Afghan custody... Leif 18:06, 5 August 2005 (UTC)


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Stranded Russian minisub is trapped by 60 tonne anchor

August 5, 2005 The news agency is reporting that a Russian minisub that was stranded underwater in the  is trapped by two 60 tonne anchors.

The submarine propeller has snagged on the antenna of a sonar underwater coastal defense station, (or perhaps very long low frequency arrays, which can be thousands of yards) 623 ft below the ocean 43 miles off. "The anchor needs to be blown up" in order to be able to raise the AS-28 submarine, the commander of the told Interfax.

"If the explosion is successful, the system will be raised to a depth of 100 meters and lit up by the Tiger [television camera], and we can at last be 100% sure that it's the submarine, and deepwater divers will be able to continue work," he continued.

The submarine, with seven crew onboard, became entangled on Thursday while at a depth of 190 m.

Earlier reports that the submarine had been taken under tow have been proved false. Ships had attempted to trawl for the submarine in order to drag it into shallower water, but it is reported that they failed to capture the submarine.

The Pacific Fleet commander says that the crew have enough food and water to survive until Monday although oxygen will run out by Saturday. The three-man submarine was designed to supply the crew with a five day supply of oxygen, however with the seven man crew the supply has been greatly depleted.

Around ten Russian navy ships are attending, to be joined by four Japanese vessels on Monday. The US and UK navies are also flying in specialist rescue equipment, including two U.S. navy owned remotely-operated underwater robots capable of cutting through steel lines up to 1" thick and one U.K. video array . They will arrive on Saturday.

The crew have been using an underwater acoustic telephone to communicate with the surface, and are reported to be remaining calm. They have been told to keep still and to conserve the ship's power supplies.

The same class of vessel, which measures 13.5 m by 3.8 m, was used during the ill-fated rescue attempt on the, which was lost with all hands almost exactly five years ago.


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User:Dan100/My contributions/July 2005

 * July 1: Deaths as Congolese government cracks down on pro-democracy protests
 * July 1: UN/WHO making progress in treating HIV/AIDS, but will miss 2005 target - this was originally on Submit a story, but I completely re-wrote it
 * July 2: Live 8 concerts to "End Poverty Now" taking place around the world
 * July 3: Grandfather and grandson die after dinghy capsizes off North Wales coast
 * July 5: Sunnis fighting al-Qa'eda insurgents in Western Iraq
 * July 6: London to host 2012 Olympic Games - note, while I started and published this, it was later greatly expanded
 * July 7: Coordinated terrorist attack hits London - I reported this first and maintained the article for the first hour or so
 * July 8: Death toll from London bombings rises to 37
 * July 8: London transport system returning to normal
 * July 8: Security alerts in central London
 * July 8: London bombing death toll rises to 'more than 50'
 * July 8: Thirteen people died in London bus bombing
 * July 9: London Tube bombs went 'bang bang bang, very close together'
 * July 9: London bus bomb 'an hour late'
 * July 10: Birmingham UK threat was 'real and very credible'
 * July 12: Police make significant progress in London bombings investigation
 * July 13: Shuttle launch on schedule despite launch pad accident
 * July 13: Suicide bomber kills 24 children in Iraq
 * July 15: Pollution in Arctic carried by seabirds - not started by me, but I *completely* re-wrote to get something publishable out of it.
 * July 16: Space Shuttle Discovery launch on indefinite hold
 * July 19: Niger facing food shortages after drought
 * July 21: Prime Minister, Police chief urge London to 'get moving again'
 * July 22: Armed police shoot man dead on London Underground
 * July 23: Space Shuttle Discovery launch scheduled for Tuesday
 * July 25: Britain's Royal Windsor Castle to get hydro-electric power plant
 * July 27: Crew of Discovery inspect Shuttle for launch damage
 * July 28: US, five Asian nations announce climate change partnership
 * July 28: NASA: Discovery appears safe to return to Earth
 * July 29: Armed police arrest two more July 21 bombing suspects in dramatic raids

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An angered Robert Novak exited set of CNN ''Inside Politics'' show

August 5, 2005

The journalist who first revealed in print the Valerie Plame CIA connection, Robert Novak, angrily left the set of an Inside Politics segment Thursday night.

The discussion, led by Ed Henry of CNN, centered on the Florida republican House representative Katherine Harris election prospects in a possible square-off against Florida’s democratic Senate representative Bill Nelson.

The Chicago Sun-Times syndicated columnist and CNN contributor, Novak took offense when co-appearing James Carville interrupted Novak when he was defending the Harris election victory chances. "Let me just finish, James, please," Novak said. "I know you hate to hear me, but you have to."

Carville countered with, "He's got to show these right-wingers that he's got a backbone, you know. It's why the Wall Street Journal editorial page is watching you. Show 'em that you're tough."

The discussion was shortened when Novak responded to Carville saying, "Well, I think that's bullshit, and I hate that." Then, with a wave of his hand to moderator Henry, Novak said, "Just let it go." Novak stood and then left the set. Henry never got to ask Novak about his role in the federal probe on the Plame leak led by Patrick Fitzgerald.

CNN suspended Novak indefinitely, despite his apology to the organization. The network said in a statement. "Mr. Novak has apologized to CNN, and CNN apologizes to its viewers for his language and actions. We've asked Mr. Novak to take some time off."


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User:RossKoepke/MTUEssay

Who or what influenced you to consider Michigan Tech?

• Visit • Atmosphere • Childhood •

The influences that lead me to Michigan Tech's gates were the experiences and opportunities I had as a child. Like a game of chess where someone discovers how to force a checkmate 11 moves into the future, my attraction to Michigan Tech was set in stone during my childhood. The real influences upon my life today were those that I was experienced between the ages of 3 and 10.

My sister was born two years earlier than I was. Because of this, she learned to read competently sometime just after my 3rd birthday. She then sat down with me for hours every day diligently teaching me what she learned. Thus, I learned to read when I was only three. It would take me another year to learn how to write, but in the meantime I became obsessed with reading. I devoured any literature I could get my hands on. I'd finish my sister's "Young-Adult" rated books in just a few hours each. The only inexhaustible source of information in my house was my father's complete set of Encyclopedia Britannica volumes. From these I learned about the natural world - an overview of anatomy, geography, physical science, and politics. My parents hung a world map in my room so large it dwarfed my own body - but I spent hours every day and night studying the map, imagining how the continents formed, learning where each country was, the capital city of each, and discovering that the largest ice shelf of Antarctica shares my own name - the Ross Ice Shelf.

My father taught me to play chess when I was 4 or 5.

The first computer I interacted with was my father's Zenith IBM-compatible. Battle Chess

Apple II.

Performa 636CD

I was born into an entirely different world than that which exists today. I grew up with computers made by Zenith, 300 baud modems, Windows 3.1 and MacPaint. I was in the youngest group to see the dawn of three-dimensional computer environments which I experienced the form of a game named Spectre VR which featured only the most basic polygon modeling - it could only draw cubes and pyramids. I saw the advent of telephony modems and PPP over TCP/IP. I saw the internet progress from Mosaic to Netscape Navigator to Netscape Communicator. I remember every

My first computer interaction was with a Zenith IBM-compatible that my family still owns. It sported a four color screen.

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User talk:68.97.31.56

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User:Mrmiscellanious/Local

Local stories I created (are still fully editable)

 * International "Pig Gig" rib festival begins

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Talk:British Airways to fly to Iceland

hearse??

Are they still doing this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.44.255 (talk) 13:05, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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User talk:Ali Imran~enwikinews

Ali - you need to find a guy who calls himself "soufron" on IRC, and talk to him - he's the WMF's legal advisor, and can tell all! Dan100 (Talk) 09:55, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

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Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

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Talk:NATO to expand Afghanistan presence

This single event; dragging Nato into Afghanistan, illustrates so much how truly brilliant the Bush team is at strategically spreading WW3 throughout the globe. Now, all the Nato countries will be seen as invaders and occupiers by the other side. The other unnoticed chess move toward greater conflict was the U.S. signing a nuclear weapons treaty with India a month or so ago. That act could only be seen as an insult to the people of Pakistan and put them even more on edge, I would imagine. Make no mistake, we did it in Hiroshima and we'll do it again..and 1 more 9/11 is all that's needed to get americans demanding it. Paulrevere2005 13:59, 6 August 2005 (UTC)


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Senior citizen group seeks recovery of Medicare expenses from U.S. cigarette makers

August 6, 2005

A U.S. lobbyist group, the, filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court in to recover  expenses related to tobacco smoking. The suit says there is a link between and smoking-related diseases.

The first of its kind lawsuit seeks to recover as much as $60 billion in estimated Medicare expenses outlaid for treatment of and  patients.

The Medicare Secondary Payer Statute (MSP) allows someone to sue on behalf of Medicare. The medical expenses that another party was legally obligated to cover, in this case the tobacco companies if they are found liable in court, would be split between parties to the suit and Medicare. The MSP statute was entered in part because the government does not have the resources to prosecute every case under Medicare law.

Charles Jarvis, the CEO of the group said, "Our motivation is one of taxpayer protection." He added, "Considering how badly the taxpayers have been injured financially, we believe the responsible parties — the tobacco companies — should be reimbursing the taxpayer to the greatest amount possible under the law."

Currently, U.S. employees are taxed by Medicare at 1.45% of their earnings. This payroll tax amount is matched by their employer when paid to the.

The lawsuit names, , the , and and two of its subsidiaries as defendants. The United Seniors Association is asking for twice the amount paid by Medicare to treat smoking related illnesses since 1999.


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Talk:Mrmiscellanious/Local/International "Pig Gig" rib festival begins

I attended the event on Friday, August 5, 2005. I stayed briefly for the Gary Puckett concert, and took around 70 pictures of the event (including a few of food). --Mrmiscellanious 15:59, 6 August 2005 (UTC)


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Plane ditches into sea near Sicily

August 6, 2005

A plane crash 13 km from Palermo and 12 miles North East of Capo Gallo off the Sicilian coast killed at least 14 people.

A Tuninter flight was carrying 39 people (34 passengers and 5 crew members) when it went down near Sicily.

A magistrate of Palermo said there were 20 survivors.

The Tunisian ATR-72 airliner had taken off from Bari and is believed to have developed a technical fault. All the passengers are reportedly Italian.

Ten passengers have reached land in Palermo, a city on the southern Italian island of Sicily. "It's a miracle we're alive," a survivor said, according to Ansa.

The plane went into the sea after the captain asked for an emergency landing at Palermo Punta Raisi airport. When the captain realized he could not reach the airport, he was forced to crash-land the plane at sea. The captain Chafik Garbis told Ansa, "The engines have lost power and I have had to try to ditch."

Most of the survivors have been injured, and the majority have signs of serious burns. The casualties from the crash were worsened due to a fire spreading out before, or just after, the plane ditched.

The wreck of the airplane was found broken in three parts.

The number of the fatalities is not yet clearly known. A member of the Italian aviation reported to the Italian Radio Rai while coming back to land from the area of the crash that some people are not yet found.

The Italian ANSV (Agenzia nazionale sicurezza al volo, or National Agency for Flight Safety) opened an investigation into the crash. It will also involve France (where the ATR planes were built) and Tunisia.

The Pubblico Ministero of Palermo (the judge who is in charge of investigation) said to the Italian television Rai, "Luckly, and this is the most important thing, we can exclude that it is due to a terrorism attack." He then added that the investigation has not yet formally started so he needs more time to be sure.

Sources in Italian

Notlandung misslungen - Air Tunis-Maschine stürzt ins Mittelmeer Aereo cade in mare vicino a Palermo 2005 Wypadek samolotu pasażerskiego w okolicach Sycylii

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TSA cuts US airport security screening personnel

August 14, 2005

U.S. airline passengers may need to brace for longer lines at security screening checkpoints as the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) announced plans to reduce the number of security screeners in US airports. The cutbacks come despite an increased TSA budget for 2006 over 2005 and an overall increase in airport traffic.

The Portland, Oregon and Medford, Oregon airports were among the hardest-hit by cutbacks, with Portland seeing a 30% decline in security screeners.

Travellers are advised to check with the TSA or the airport to plan for delays at check-in.


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Robin Cook dead after collapsing

August 6, 2005 Robin Cook, the former British foreign secretary and current Member of Parliament, has died of a suspected heart attack after collapsing on a walk with his wife on Ben Stack hill, Scotland. Cook, aged 59, was flown to a hospital in Inverness by a rescue service helicopter half an hour after collapsing.

A spokesperson for NHS Highland said that Mr. Cook arrived at hospital 90 minutes after his collapse, and was reported dead five minutes later. A postmortem examination has concluded that he died from hypertensive heart disease.

Mr. Cook was buried on August 12 at St Giles Cathedral in Edinburgh in a service attended by close family, friends and political figures from across the world. British Prime Minister Tony Blair however came under attack from Mr. Cooks friend and racing pundit John McCririck for his absence from the service.

Robin Cook served as Foreign Secretary under New Labour and was a critic of the war in Iraq. He resigned as Leader of the House of Commons in 2003 in protest against Prime Minister Blair's foreign policies.

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America's atomic bombing commemoration held in Hiroshima

August 7, 2005 The 60th anniversary of the first use of an atomic bomb against people has been remembered in a ceremony yesterday in Hiroshima, Japan.

The atomic bomb, code-named "Little Boy", was dropped on Hiroshima at precisely 08:15 on August 6, 1945 by the specially converted United States Army Air Force B-29 Superfortress Enola Gay.

The recommendation to drop the atomic bomb without warning was made by an eight-man committee headed by George Harrison who was Secretary of War Henry Stimson's special assistant for matters relating to the development of the atomic bomb. Both Harrison and Stimson were members of Skull and Bones

Three days later, another atomic bomb "Fat Man", was dropped on nearby Nagasaki.

The Japanese Government surrendered unconditionally on 15 August, and signed the formal surrender on the USS Missouri on 2 September in Tokyo Bay.

The dropping of the bomb has been condemned by critics and anti-nuclear campaigners, who say other methods could have been used to end the war. Advocates, however, say that an invasion of Japan — to be known as Operation Downfall — would have cost millions of Allied and Japanese lives, citing the ferocity of fighting experienced during the Battle of Okinawa, and that the bombings avoided this.

Approximately 140,000 people died within days from the initial blast and during the following year from radiation. The total death toll was almost half of Hiroshima's population.

"As the years go by so many of my friends and relatives die. This must not be forgotten." Sunao Tsuboi, a survivor of the bombing, said. Now he is 80, and he recounted some of the details of what he witnessed that day:

"We were all barefoot. One woman's skin was hanging from her chest, another woman's eye was hanging from its socket and resting on her chin, and one young girl's guts had spilled out."

Tsuboi saw people jumping into a river which was already full of bodies. He said, "I was thinking that if I die here, I would feel so sad and alone. Everyone had given up; no help was coming.We were beyond pain." Tsuboi has since lost skin on his forehead and nose as well as part of his ears. He still goes to hospital every two weeks for treatment.


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User:Stevey7788

Hi, I'm Stevey7788. I mainly edit on the English Wikipedia.

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Finnish police isolate ports in Helsinki

August 6, 2005 The Finnish police isolated the ports of Katajanokka and Länsisatama on Saturday. The ports were isolated at around 9.30 p.m. local time and the isolation was called off at around 11.30 p.m.

Finnish police received reports from Estonia that a shipping container loaded with explosives could be coming from Estonia Saturday evening. They checked every truck that passed the ports with the assistance of the Border Guard Service. There are still two ships due to arrive in Helsinki tonight, but they were already checked in Tallinn.


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User talk:24.61.230.24

Welcome
24.61.230.24, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! Stevey7788 19:57, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
 * Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced
 * Introduction - overview of the site
 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
 * Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
 * Style guide - how articles should look before publishing
 * Contents - the contents page.
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * Audio Wikinews could always use more contributors
 * And of course, stories need writing!

title: User talk:24.61.230.24