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Research points

 * Back up assumptions about libraries and put in context. Check US constitution, ask British Library, Library of Congress.
 * Actually, United States Bill of Rights - First and Fourth Amendments. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:40, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Query on Wikipedia - check back regularly.
 * Responses:
 * In Norway it is illegal to retain such records. Even teachers' lists of which child has borrowed which books from the school library are discouraged and may in no case be retained longer than the current school year. - Hordaland (talk) 22:13, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Library of Congress
"I am attempting to investigate the historical background of records maintained by libraries in general; the basis of the project this research is for relates to the Library of Congress as a "model library", and the potentially revolutionary changes computerised record-keeping involves.
 * Website: http://www.loc.gov/index.html
 * Pressroom: http://www.loc.gov/pressroom/login (requires username/password, see page source )
 * Librarian of Congress James H. Billington
 * James Hadley Billington was sworn in as the Librarian of Congress on September 14, 1987. He is the 13th person to hold the position since the Library was established in 1800.
 * Ask a librarian: http://www.loc.gov/rr/askalib/ (publicly accessible)
 * Press-specific contacts: http://www.loc.gov/pressroom/page/Working-with-the-Library-of-Congress
 * Query submitted to LoC Ask a librarian service:

My questions (sorry, multiple) are:

1. When set up, and made accessible to the public, what records did the Library of Congress maintain? Did this include records of who borrowed or consulted any specific books?

2. Are the principles enshrined in the First and Fourth amendments applied to records as set out in Q1?

3. What modern-equivalent to records as set out in Q1 are retained?

4. In modern terms, "data retention" - i.e. over time, how long have the Q1 records been retained?

4. Now, and since opening to the public, under what circumstances would the Library of Congress divulge said records?

5. In general, it would also be extremely useful to have the same information from different geopolitical points."

 * Received notice that query has been forwarded to Office of the General Counsel --Brian McNeil'' / talk 21:03, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Paula Kaufman (no Wikipedia page)

 * University Librarian and Dean of Libraries, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign since September 7, 1999
 * About page: http://www.library.illinois.edu/administration/librarian/aboutme.html
 * Relevance: Refused to assist FBI's Library Awareness Program with information on library patrons in 1987. (See NYT source below, at Columbia University at the time.) Gave presentation on the Program to Tennessee Library Association Annual Conference, April 20, 1989
 * Request for quotable comment sent to Dean Kaufman via email:
 * "Dean Kaufman,

 * I am a freelance journalist carrying out some background research into libraries, their record-keeping, it's evolving relationship with the U.S. First Amendment, and implications arising from use of computers and the Internet.

 * Investigating an aspect of this - history of threats and challenges to libraries and their records - brings up your name as one of the more outspoken defendants of the First Amendment in a library context. This, of course, is in relation to your highly principled stance against cooperation with the FBI's Library Awareness Program in 1987.

 * See: http://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/18/nyregion/fbi-in-new-york-asks-librarians-aid-in-reporting-on-spies.html?pagewanted=all

 * My more general research into library history and the First Amendment turns up points where librarians actively cooperated with authorities in time of war to selectively censor collections; as you move closer to the present, the ALA firms up its best-practice guidelines, stresses neutrality in content selection, and restricting cooperation with authorities to the "reasonable search" principle of the First Amendment.

 * I am afraid my expansion of the points I would highly value quotable comment, or a statement, on is somewhat complex. Please bear with me while I put this all in context.

 * One item I am particularly interested in is library records kept detailing who borrows or refers to works within its collection. I have found absolutely no pre-computing information on this but, in modern terms I would call this a "borrowing record". I have an outstanding query with the Library of Congress regarding their handling of such records, and from the British Library's Information Charter, referring to personally identifiable information, it states "make sure we don’t keep it longer than necessary". Elsewhere on the British Library site a similar statement indicates that this data is only retained as long as required for the work of the library.

 * This, in principle, is what I had hoped to find. From my own IT background I would express this thus:

 * Where a "borrowing record" has been created matching a person with an item in the library collection; it must be deleted when:
 * The referenced item is returned to its correct place in the collection or,
 * If returned damaged, the "borrowing record" is only deleted after the person has replaced the item, or paid appropriate damages
 * If not returned, the "borrowing record" is retained to pursue whoever has the borrowed item

 * That, I would sincerely hope, has been a long-standing tradition in libraries. While I find reference to Nazi and Soviet action similar to the FBI's Library Awareness Program, I find nothing indicating that at any point my aforementioned "borrowing records" have been used for persecution or profiling.

 * Now, within a library, such records are reasonably protected. However, a variety of similar information may be available over, or from, the Internet.
 * For convenience, a person can check what items they have booked out, and their due return date
 * A person may browse and search the library collection, and carry out actions such as reserving an item in the collection, or requesting an item via an inter-library-loan

 * This information is not just available to the person using the website and the library, it is available to anyone able to read the data travelling between the person's computer and the library's website. That is, unless the data travels encrypted like use of online banking or shopping.

 * This does not become a particularly concerning issue until you consider actions such as the AT&T Warrantless Wiretapping scandal. In such cases AT&T, as a person's Internet Service Provider, would be able to provide all this information to whoever requested it, and the library would be unable to guarantee First Amendment rights, or prevent disclosure without regard for the First Amendment.

 * Of course, there are not just issues with this inside the United States. I live in Scotland, and several of the biggest Internet Service providers here are working on a targeted advertising system (Phorm) which relies on access to a subscriber's browsing history. If the library website does not use encryption, advertisers would be able to use a person's reading preferences in selecting the advertising presented to them.

 * Given this context, I would greatly appreciate quotable content in response to the following questions:

 * Do libraries, in general, do enough to keep as little personally identifying information as possible, for the shortest period of time required for the library to function?

 * Do you think libraries, to preserve First Amendment rights, should use the same measures as applied with online banking for remote access to their collection and services?

 * Considering that records such as books borrowed from a library, and searches made in a library's collection can be very useful to users accessing the library website, do you think that retention of such information should only be done when the user has explicitly requested it?

 * I would like to thank you in advance for your comments on this; I would also greatly appreciate if you could suggest colleagues or other library professionals, outside the United States, who I might attempt to obtain similar comment from with their local perspective.

 * I will of course, when published, furnish you with a link to the complete article.

 * Regards,

 * Brian McNeil
 * Wikinewsie"

Jay Walsh, WMF

 * Wikimedia Foundation's head of communications since January 10, 2008.
 * Previously with Canadian Broadcasting Corporation

 * Sent link to Project INDECT and the leaked video
 * Put situation/hypothetical situation in context
 * Following from emails:
 * My query (in reference to Wikimedia going https:// -only) :
 * With the WMF having a strong stance on user privacy, I have to ask, how much might that actually cost? What sort of indications that the worst-case levels of data collection were being carried out would prompt the WMF to (if it wasn't such a funding nightmare) contemplating the switch?
 * Response:
 * 'I don't think there's any serious consideration right now of us investing lots of money into a large scale, secure system beyond what's in place. As you can appreciate, there would be tens of thousands of users and right now we divert our limited financial resources into supporting the editors and of course the hundreds of millions of users who come to Wikipedia and our other projects every month.
 * 'I don't think anyone at the Foundation could speculate on the cost - we're not experts in this kind of infrastructure, but you can be sure we'd seek out open-source alternatives first (as virtually the entire software stack at WMF is open-source).
 * 'And it's also not really possible for us to determine what hypothetical worst case scenario would prompt us to think about increasing security. We would really have to examine any changes (I'm not aware of any intense examinations taking place right now) to this space and of course keep up to speed on what's happening in the industry overall.
 * As you know, we're opposed to collecting any more private data than necessary. We're proud of a vast, open project that epitomizes transparency and openness on the net. We only collect as necessary by law, and what we do collect we track, protect, and monitor very carefully.

The British Library

 * Website: http://www.bl.uk/
 * Press room: http://www.bl.uk/news/main.html
 * Contacts: http://www.bl.uk/news/prcontacts.html
 * Data Protection policy: http://www.bl.uk/aboutus/foi/pubsch/pubscheme5/BLData%20Protection%20Policy2002.pdf
 * Information Charter: http://www.bl.uk/aboutus/foi/infcharter/index.html
 * "The Library regularly reviews its systems and processes to ensure that when we ask you for personal information, we:

• make sure you know why we need it;

• ask for what we need and do not collect irrelevant information;

• protect it from loss, damage or unauthorised access;

• let you know if we share it with other organisations;

• make sure we don’t keep it longer than necessary; and

• will not use your personal information for marketing without your permission."

 * (Emphasis added)

 * Submitted query to press assistant from contacts page:
 * "Dear Chloé,

I am carrying out research for a possible news article I would like to pitch. I assume, as none of the specific listed press contacts appears appropriate, you would be the relevant contact, and could direct my query accordingly.

What I am trying to establish is a general idea of record-keeping within libraries. The specific records of interest to me are details of people referring to, or borrowing, books from the library.

I have read the various principles and policies currently provided on the British Library website, the repeated references are to UK data protection legislation, and data on individuals only being retained as long as is required for the functioning of the library.

For these - "borrowing records" - My interpretation is that, where a library user accesses a book this should be recorded only for as long as is required to ensure the book is returned to the correct place in its collection. Of course, book could be replaced with a variety of other media forms which the library may have in their collection.

The above would probably best be clarified if this is built into the specification of the library catalogue management system to delete such "borrowing records" upon confirmation the book has been returned to its rightful place.

This covers now, and in general I believe I can assume this is the case for all computerised records of this nature.

However, I am at a loss to find details of how this may have been handled in the past.

Any advice or assistance you can give on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Brian McNeil Wikinewsie"

Costs
Very difficult to formulate effective search queries to get ball-park figures for cost of https instead of http.

 * Query posted on Ubuntu forums
 * "Support for hardware-based web server encryption

I'm doing some research into the impact of running a website exclusively over https instead of unencrypted http. I am not having much luck getting easily-understood answers to make credible estimates on the cost of this, and how that scales with a more complex setup than a single web server.

The first, and simplest question, is:

1. If you compare a single web server running https with one running http on the same hardware, what are the the impacts on performance? (For example, for every 100 users/requests the http server supports, the https server will only support 85).

2. Is there crypto hardware supported by Linux that would make question 1 a non-issue?

3. If a site is scaled and distributed using squid caches, what are the repercussions of processing requests exclusively via https? Does this change if the site usage includes a significant number of user-supplied content updates?

Any help with this would be very, very useful.

Thanks!"

Wikipedia - Infrastructure

 * Hardware and hosting report - Domas Mituzas (last updated: August 2006, only lists new purchases)
 * Servers page on Meta (Outdated warning)
 * Wikitech Main page
 * Wikimania 2009 presentation - Rob Halsell
 * Nagios
 * Ganglia
 * Torrus - Squids
 * These look very interesting and cool

IBM - Approach

 * Search for hardware crypto acceleration turns up IBM as one of a very small number of solutions.
 * Pressroom, Steve Malkiewicz - IBM Research and Tecnology
 * Submitted query for information:
 * "Dear Mr Malkiewicz,

In my efforts to research details for a quite complex story I am working on, IBM is one of only a handful of companies that gave a positive match for a particular piece of equipment, namely hardware-based encryption.

Details that would be useful to my work appear to have been researched by IBM - judging by the page I located.

The premise I am working from is: Considering the AT&T Warrantless Wiretapping scandal, its First Amendment implications, and the intense global research effort into search and other data mining technology, a wide range of popular websites would best serve their users First Amendment privacy rights through using encryption; serving up pages over https:// instead of http://

I have made a number of inquiries with the Library of Congress, and prominent University librarians, on their reaction to this.

However, this itself needs put in context; basically by in some way expressing the cost of, or reduction in capacity, switching to encrypted web access.

Taking Library of Congress web services as an example, what would be the contrast in costs for an IBM solution using encryption versus one not using encryption?

I had also hoped to look into cost details for highly popular sites such as Wikipedia and Facebook.

Both these example sites rely almost exclusively on commodity hardware, Linux, and Open Source Software. Neither could even begin to contemplate a from-scratch solution.

I could not confirm that crypto hardware is available that would plug into the systems they have, and be supported in Linux, researching this is what, neatly, brought me to the IBM website.

This, as I understand it, leaves the choice for such sites as software encryption. If such were implemented, the capacity of the site would be reduced, or additional servers would be needed to maintain current capacity.

Would you be able to help put numbers into all of this? As mentioned earlier, I certainly have reason to believe IBM has carried out serious research into this to establish where your hardware encryption solution is most appropriate for clients.

Regards,

Brian McNeil Wikinewsie" --Brian McNeil / talk 22:09, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Library records - Threats - Related documents

 * The Freedom to Read Statement - American Library Association (originally published and ratified in 1953, linked-to version has been updated)
 * Public Libraries and Intellectual Freedom - American Library Association, undated.
 * "User confidentiality and privacy: Failure to protect the rights of library users to utilize library materials and services privately can limit the practical exercise of First Amendment rights. Incursions of this sort—which are illegal in many jurisdictions— have been attempted by the FBI, police agencies, marketing firms, religious missionaries, the press, and others. Protecting confidentiality in an automated, networked environment provides new challenges for libraries. Security becomes an issue not only to insure the integrity of the library’s own databases and computer operating systems, but also to protect users’ privacy rights."

 * "RESOLVED, That the American Library Association urges all libraries to adopt and implement patron privacy and record retention policies that affirm that "the collection of personally identifiable information should only be a matter of routine or policy when necessary for the fulfillment of the mission of the library" (ALA Privacy: An Interpretation of the Library Bill of Rights)"
 * "RESOLVED, That the American Library Association urges all libraries to adopt and implement patron privacy and record retention policies that affirm that "the collection of personally identifiable information should only be a matter of routine or policy when necessary for the fulfillment of the mission of the library" (ALA Privacy: An Interpretation of the Library Bill of Rights)"
 * "RESOLVED, That the American Library Association urges all libraries to adopt and implement patron privacy and record retention policies that affirm that "the collection of personally identifiable information should only be a matter of routine or policy when necessary for the fulfillment of the mission of the library" (ALA Privacy: An Interpretation of the Library Bill of Rights)"

 * Columbia University’s Mathematics and Science Library, Acting University Librarian, Paula Kaufman, refused to cooperate with FBI
 * Columbia University’s Mathematics and Science Library, Acting University Librarian, Paula Kaufman, refused to cooperate with FBI
 * Columbia University’s Mathematics and Science Library, Acting University Librarian, Paula Kaufman, refused to cooperate with FBI

 * Book: Surveillance in the stacks : the FBI's library awareness program / Herbert N. Foerstel (1991) Offline (see p65).
 * Reference in National Library of Australia database - Prohibitively expensive excerpt/reproduction costs
 * Author/Library expert: Roy Tennant (2003 LITA/Library Hi Tech Award winner)
 * Journal: June Pinnell–Stevens, 2003. "Libraries, privacy, and government information after September 11," PNLA Quarterly, volume 67, number 4, pp. 6–9.
 * Periodical?: Pamela S. Richards, 2001. "Cold War librarianship: Soviet and American library activities in support of national foreign policy, 1946–1991," Libraries and Culture, volume 36, number 1, pp. 193–203.
 * Journal: Roy Tennant, 2003. "Patriotism as if our Constitution matters," Library Journal, volume 128, number 12 (July), p. 32.


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Bus driver convicted of killing eleven after falling asleep in California crash

October 9, 2009

A bus driver thought to have caused a 2008 crash after falling asleep behind the wheel in California has been convicted of killing eleven on board. Quintin Watts was found guilty of eleven counts of gross vehicular manslaughter and 21 counts of causing great bodily injury.

Watts was driving a coach carrying 41 Hmong and Mien people from Sacramento to the Colusa Casino Resort. The vehicle left the country road it was traveling on and rolled over in Colusa County. Most of those on board were elderly.

Watts' stepfather Daniel Cobb, who owned the bus company, was amongst those killed. A jury took three hours to return guilty verdicts against the 53-year-old driver, who now faces a maximum of 76 years in jail at his November 4 sentencing.


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For a country already with a large poor population, this will devastate India. It's the last thing they need. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:18, 9 October 2009 (UTC)


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Coulthard says Piquet should have been punished for F1 cheating

October 9, 2009

David Coulthard, a former driver for the McLaren and Red Bull Formula One teams, has said the sport's governing body should have punished a Renault driver for cheating. Nelson Piquet Jr. was granted immunity as a whistleblower.

Renault ordered Piquet to crash his car during the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix, which he did. This benefited team-mate Fernando Alonso's race strategy, and he went on to win the event. After being fired midway through the current season, Piquet told the FIA, who oversee F1, that the team had been cheating.

Renault were banned for life, suspended by two years, just before this year's Singapore Grand Prix. At the same hearing, head engineer Pat Symonds was banned for five years and manager Flavio Briatore for life. Alonso is not thought to have been aware of the scheme. Coulthard expressed dissatisfaction at that result today during a Red Bull event in Mumbai.

The Times of India has revealed that Coulthard said today, "I think FIA should have punished Piquet too. He was equally guilty as any other." Coulthard, who drives an F1 car across a new sea bridge in Mumbai on Sunday, said, "I will be surprised if he gets an F1 drive again," and that the scandal had shaken him.

Another F1 driver in the news is Felipe Massa. Massa was seriously injured at the Hungaroring in Hungary when a spring came off a car ahead of him and struck his helmet at 160 mph. He spent ten days in intensive care at a military hospital and has a metal plate in his head to mend his fractured skull.

Now, on Monday he intends to drive a 2007 Ferrari F1 car in Italy, just over 11 weeks after the accident. Massa has already driven a cart in his homeland of Brazil and recently underwent simulator testing. He is set to wave the flag at the finish line of this year's race in Brazil.

Massa, whose injuries were considered life threatening, spoke out earlier this month about the fact that Alonso's Singapore win cost him points that would have meant victory in the drivers' championship had he topped the podium. "All of what happened was robbery... It changed the championship. I lost by one point."

He also said the sentences should have been tougher. He compared the case to a cheating football team. "The team responsible were relegated. Here they just sent Briatore home. I don't understand it and I don't think it was right."


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User talk:BowToChris

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User talk:ShakataGaNai/Archives/2009/October

pls help
hi.. i am sorry i don't know about wiki rules..whats wrong with may article? it is an important news and i couldn't find if anyone gave this news. that's why i tried to give. i am sorry if it is wrong please help me with it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rose.jaaan (talk • contribs) 05:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

 * Well you can write your own articles here at Wikinews, but you cannot copy and paste from other locations. So if you want to write something, in your own words, please do.  Then you can cite your sources that you use.  Remember, you have to start from scratch writing it yourself.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 16:06, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Could you take a look at this ...
ShakataGaNa, Could you take a look at the following svg on Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikinews-breaking-news-2.svg and see if I did everything right. I think this may look cleaner at low resolution than the original. Let me know what you think. ;) Calebrw (talk) 01:34, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nai! Like Bill Nye! Anyways, I swaped it up on Lead 2.0.  I see the change you made (IE Removed the shadow).  I think it probably isn't a bad idea, but the shadow gave it a bold look, so if you are going to remove it, make the text bold.  As it is now (see User:ShakataGaNai/Main Page) it looks kinda funny.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 05:45, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I am vandalising ur page

 * D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D Brynn (talk) 01:57, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Adminship
Thanks :) --millosh (talk) 06:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Deadminship
Hi SGN ... just a heads up, Skenmy started a proposal to have your 'crat and admin privs removed at WN:RFA. Please make a statement if you wish. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  19:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Edit conflict - thanks TDV :) -- Sken   my talk 19:18, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Withdrawan per discussion on the RfDA - I will be posting a new section below. -- Sken   my talk 19:36, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm not getting involved. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 20:07, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Does this mean that you will not be commenting on my concerns below? -- Sken   my talk 20:26, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Grave concerns
As you have chosen to ignore me on IRC, and two of our peers have suggested I try this before continuing with the RfDA, I am willing to try, if you are. Please do not consider this bad faith, sour grapes, or any other kind of attack on yourself, as Cirt seems to think it is. I am concerned that you are mis-using your administrator privileges.

The first concern I have is of these promotions: 17:07, 23 September 2009 ShakataGaNai (Talk | contribs | block) changed group membership for User:Shoone from (none) to Editors ? (He's trust worthy, I know him IRL. Besides, hes a VERY good c/e'r) 01:35, 21 July 2009 ShakataGaNai (Talk | contribs | block) changed group membership for User:James Pain from (none) to Editors ? (he's been around for, like, forever) 02:53, 4 June 2009 ShakataGaNai (Talk | contribs | block) changed group membership for User:Brynn from (none) to Editors ? (I know her, she's responsible.) None of these users were passed through WN:FR/RFP - which was an official policy at the time of your promotions. Can you explain your reasons for circumventing policy here?

A second concern I have is the one I highlighted to you on IRC, your overzealous blocking of established, constructive user User:Rayboy8. Rayboy8 was given a single piece of education for a relatively minor offence here. The next "offence" was met with a slightly off warning from yourself here. This, again, should have been an education attempt, not a hard slamming of the rules. The user does not know what they did wrong! Perhaps some constructive comments, links to WN:C, etc? If these "offences" really are breaking policy, which is something I dispute, then this is where the first warning should have been applied. Instead the user was treated to a barrage of unconstructive comments that practically condense to a threat. this warning was for this content (which was subsequently deleted) which was an obvious copyvio. No objections to this one. This is the first "serious" offence. The first block, of 48 hours, was applied for the evidence listed in this comment by yourself. This is unacceptable. Can you explain your reasons for this block?

Your second block, of 72 hours, was for good reason but entirely too long based upon the evidence above. I do believe, however, that you were only acting on what you thought was right and applying the next level of block, so I have no issue with the length of this block. What I have an issue with is your comment to an established, hard working user here. This is unnecessarily hostile and unhelpful to a user who has contributed constructively for the majority of his Wikinews career. Can you explain why you felt the need to have such a harsh comment, rather than a block template?

I am also concerned about your general attitude here on Wikinews. I will stress again, before Cirt or someone comes along and unfoundedly places personal attack messages all over the wiki, that this is not a personal attack, rather constructive criticism about your behaviour here on Wikinews. You seem to feel that the power of blocking and unblocking rests in your hands, which it technically does, but is the threat of "swinging the banhammer" really an appropriate way to relate to our blocking policy? Is it befitting for you to note that your patience has run out, and therefore apply a block? Pateince has nothing to do with being an administrator - when the policies dictate we do something, it is done. Will you accept my comments here? I have no power to ask you to change your ways, but please understand that, as you have so put it, someone whom you have the utmost respect for has grave concerns over the way you behave here on Wikinews.

ShakataGaNai, I hope that Cirt and Tempodivalse are right, and that you will engage in discussion regarding these issues, rather than block me out as you did on IRC. I was clearly clouded and angered by your comments on IRC and took a harsh action that I do now regret, but I am not counting out the relisting of the RfDA or other dispute methods should you not wish to engage in discussion here. -- Sken   my talk 20:11, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Vandal
Please be careful when reverting edits, check to see if they are not legit first: this edit was entirely legitimate (and backed up by the sources), but you reverted and added vandal warning to the user's talk page. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  00:32, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I did, I picked a source at random to check and it was the original spelling. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 01:34, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Help
Thank you for your help. You're a bureaucrat, you could help me further :) Greetings, Tilmandralle (talk) 16:18, 17 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellard38 (talk • contribs)

Your recent deletions
Hi, just thought I'd point out that the "Some information by this report was provided by AP" message that is on some VOA articles doesn't mean that it's no longer PD. From what I understand, that notice doesn't mean they copied material from AP but simply used them as a source (which doesn't infringe copyright). Also, why are you deleting articles like Vice President Biden Travels to Poland, Romania, Czech Republic, Teachers in Zimbabwe End Strike After Three Weeks and Gates: 'No Alternatives' to US-Japan Security Accord ? They seem newsworthy enough for our standards. Comments like dont they have enough problems without teaches? and man, no one cares about the sudan, it's like in some remote country or something aren't exactly informative or helpful either. Tempodivalse [talk]  17:43, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps a special tag or prod or something for these sorts of articles might be better? Cirt (talk) 17:45, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I know that. I also know we've got freakin a hundred articles in the newsroom.  I was using any reasonable excuse I could to cut them down to a more manageable number. If you _want_ to work on one of those articles, restore it. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 17:45, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I see your point, although i'd still have preferred them to stay, I wanted to work on some of them. We probably should consider creating a separate section in the newsroom for "Bot-imported articles" or something, to stop them from drowning out human-made articles. Tempodivalse [talk]  17:48, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Actually, those news are full length news, but my bot has some bug in relation to some of the news. Please, check the source in such cases. --millosh (talk) 22:26, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I kinda assumed that was the case Millosh, I didn't think that VOA would publish one line articles, but to be honest... we had way too damn many articles. We had probably close to 50 open, I really was just  using it as an excuse to delete some of them.  It's either fast and loose with the deletions, or we crank down on the bot so it can't import nearly as many articles. No one is gonna work on anything if they can't find it in the newsroom. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 17:01, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of WN:SGN
The article you created WN:SGN was marked for speedy deletion by Srinivas. The reason given was: ''redirects to user namespace have to exist in user namespace. What is the rationale for this article to redirect to User:ShakataGaNai?'' If you oppose this deletion, tag the article with hangon but please do not remove the tag till the dispute is resolved. Srin ivas  11:15, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

"Site notice can only be seen by those logged in"
Regarding = Are you sure about that? I tried logging out, and could still see the site-notice. I think it's visible to both logged-in and anonymous users. Tempodivalse [talk]  18:02, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * According to mw:Manual:Interface/Sitenotice it shows because we haven't set the anon notice, so I'll do so. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 18:05, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
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It seems nothing but tragedy comes out of this country right now. Given what happened to Iraq and Afghanistan I really hate to say it, but... has anyone considered an invasion? Preferably not the US or UK. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:17, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

 * I would love if the US would help in a coup and have Mousavi place in power.--KDP3 (talk) 23:10, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Bogus regime?
You gotta laugh at something like this. A fella is sentenced to death in Iran for "trying to overthrow the Islamic Republic and replace it with a bogus regime." That's funny. I would argue that the "regime" currently in place is a "bogus" regime. Islamic law is so inhumanely outdated - Hammurabi era stuff. Some say we have no right to question a country's anti human laws & policies, I for one think that we all have a responsibility to all humans - even backward, superstitious ones.

Where do we begin?

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What is your opinion on Bruce Forsyth's reaction?
So nowadays its ok to racially abuse someone so long you appologise later? Wrong! Bruce Forsyth is wrong to say that where is peoples sense of humour as the nation is well aware that the racial word in question was always said in racist manner and was linked to many racist attacks in the early years, it has never been said in an abbreviation for someone from pakistan,therefore Anton Du Beke's head should have rolled by now and he should be excluded from come dancing.

Bruce is not quite correct, everybody has a nickname except the Belgians. So they don't feel slighted I would suggest they henceforth be refered to as The Flem.
 * You obviously don't know that much about Belgium. The country is spit into two parts. So, yes, the Flemish could be the "Flem", but the Wallonians also have to be the "Wallies". --Brian McNeil / talk 10:57, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, you can't teach an old dog new tricks and the same goes for Bruce Forsyth. He thinks that what happened back in the light- hearted days of Enoch Powell when brown -skinned British citizens were hounded with the name 'Paki' is the same as Americans calling white Brits 'limeys'. Oh how everybody laughed and 'didn't they do well' those 'pakis'. Everyone got along. A bit of 'paki-bashing' never hurt anyone. That's Bruce Forsyths world view and the BBC cynically and stupidly wheeled out the grand daddy of TV to calm the masses. But instead of actually checking to find out what Forsyth's opinion was on racially offensive language, they let the old dog loose and now the situation is worse....so they had to backtrack and issue another statement, no doubt carefully constructed by a clever speech writer, to proffer the official stance the BBC take on these sorts of issues. But the damage is done. It's very obvious that for Du Beke to use such language, and for it to be played off as a 'slip of the tongue', it looks as though there is casual culture of light racism, or else why would it be a 'slip of the tongue'? But back to Bruce: his wife is Brazilian and dark-skinned. In fact, she probably looks like a 'paki' and we all know how Jean Charles De Menezes was shot because the police thought he was a terrorist and a 'paki'. Funnily enough, the same two words that Du Beke used to describe laila. As a joke. Yes, a person died over a mistake. What is someone called Forsyth's wife a 'Paki', would he be outraged or would he tell her to 'lighten up'? Maybe that's his real point....if we all 'lightened up' then none of us would look like 'pakis'.

It isn't a simple as either side is making it out to be. Although a genuine Pakistani would know I wasn't, I suspect to most white people I could easily fob myself off as one with my skin colour. It doesn't stop me cracking jokes at one mate with similar colour; he tends to throw them back in a similar way. Would I dream of saying anything like that to someone I didn't know, and who wouldn't see I was enitirely non-serious? Nope. There's a double-standard. How many comedians tell (bad) stupid Irishman jokes? Well, imagine the uproar if they were stupid black man jokes. It doesn't make racism acceptable in any of it's many forms, and he certainly shouldn't have said that either in that setting or to someone he had only known a few weeks, but... He was stupid, said sorry, and life goes on. If that's the reaction to such a minor slip, then certain mistakes I'm not proud of - and been forgiven of by all but myself - must surely be death penalty offences. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:06, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

What is your opinion on Bruce Forsyth's reaction?
In a way it’s rather ironic that a television programme that made ballroom dancing cool again should have provided such a flat footed response to the racist comments made by Anton Du Beke to his dance partner Lalia Rouass.

Let’s say the easy things first; yes Du Beke was, in his imagination at least making an amusing remark with no malicious intent. That, of course, does not mean that it wasn’t offensive and the remark should have cost him his job, which would be the outcome of such an incident in any other workplace.

So why have the BBC dragged their feet over the issue, after all they were quick enough when it came to sacking Carol Thatcher for a similar offence?

Cynics would tell you that the sacking of Carol Thatcher had more to do with her second name that the enormity of he crime. Depending on their point of view this allows the cynics to depart to the far corner of the student union bar of their imagination to either gloat over a blow being struck for the oppressed workers or to grumble about political correctness gone mad.

In this case I’m inclined to take an even more cynical view, namely that the BBC has allowed what should have been a simple disciplinary matter to become a minor national scandal as a means of attracting publicity to a programme that is starting to look rather tired.

It won’t work, when Strictly Come Dancing burst onto our screens a few years ago the nation took it to its heart because it seemed to represent the sort of good, old fashioned family entertainment that is all too rare amidst the ‘edgy’ fare doled out to viewers. The last year’s voting scandal and the sacking of acerbic judge Arlene Phillips has taken the shine off Strictly’s reputation and this latest fuss will only hasten decline of a programme that has long since passed its best. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.8.75.78 (talk) 10:17, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

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Does a British person get upset if they are referred to as a Brit? Why should anyone get upset over calling someone who is or looks Pakistani a Paki? Is there something so wrong with people from Pakistan that nobody wants to be associated with them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.251.206.224 (talk) 22:52, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Acceptable terminology
Okay, so once again people are getting their knickers in a twist over the use of the word 'Paki' - can someone explain why? From what I can see, it wasn't used as a term of abuse or offense in the current context - if Leila had been wearing a kilt & Anton said 'You look like a Scot!', would there have been the same outcry? I think not... I'm proud to be called a 'Brit', & I know people who refer to themselves as 'Finns' & 'Danes' & 'Swedes'... & the list goes on.... Strikes me there are far more serious things going on in the world right now to worry about....... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonknight (talk • contribs) 23:18, 16 October 2009 (UTC)


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Two people killed in fire in Greater Manchester, England

October 10, 2009 Two people have been killed in a fire in Greater Manchester, England. The couple were thought to be in their 50s. Greater Manchester Fire and Rescue Service were called to a house fire in Farnworth, Bolton on Friday at around 1715 BST. The woman's death occurred at the scene of the blaze. The man was taken to the Royal Bolton Hospital, but later died from his injuries. A witness had said that the man did not want to be helped from his burning home and that he had said to the fire brigade: "I'm sick of it all."

Greater Manchester Police have said that the pair had injuries "inconsistent with fire-related deaths." The man's injuries included multiple stab wounds to the stomach and chest. The woman suffered from a slash wound in her stomach. A police spokesperson has stated, "The deaths are being treated as suspicious at this stage and a team of detectives are currently working to establish the circumstances surrounding the incident."

Detective Chief Superintendent Darren Shenton said about the case, "A more detailed examination to establish the cause of the injuries will take place over the weekend. We are also continuing to seek the extended families of those who we believe to be the occupants of the house." A joint investigation between the police and the fire service has now been launched. The police are treating the incident as "suspicious," but have yet to arrest or name any suspects. The police are appealing for information from any member of the public who witnessed the incident or know any information about it.


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Leader of Indian BJP party visits Navi Mumbai to support candidates for general election

October 12, 2009

Lal Krishna Advani, the leader of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), visited Navi Mumbai on Friday to support Sena-BJP leaders Suresh Haware and Vijay Chougule for the country's general elections.

Advani was scheduled to arrive at 17.00 Mumbai time (+5.5 UTC) but only came at 19.30. Before his arrival, Vijay Chougule, a member of the Shiv Sena (Airoli constituency), criticized the Congress-Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) in his speech and promised that Sena-BJP could make a better Navi Mumbai. The BJP supporters were holding flags and banners of the party.

Then, Advani delivered a forty minute speech, in which he said that Suresh Haware was a nuclear scientist before he came into the field of politics, and voting for Sena-BJP could bring change. He also spoke about his dream of having American-style debates for political candidates.

"It is my cherished dream to have a 'bhavya' [beautiful] Ram Mandir at Ayodhya," he said, referring to his goal of building a Ram Temple in the area. When the BJP leader, along with his daughter, visited Somnath last month, he said that he would visit that temple frequently until the Ram Temple is constructed at Ayodhya.

After his departure, Haware, a member of the BJP (Belapur constituency), spoke about water problems and said that Navi Mumbai needs a better water supply. Even a few days before Advani's arrival, Haware spoke of good housing facilities, uninterrupted water supply and measures to control the rising of prices. He also accused the Congress-NCP leaders of making fake promises and misleading the polls.


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70 killed after tanker explosion in Nigeria

October 10, 2009 A fuel tanker explosion in Nigeria killed at least seventy people on Saturday, officials have said.

The incident took place in the southern state of Anambra. According to the authorities, the tanker flipped over after driving over a pothole, causing it to ignite. The fire quickly spread to five crowded minibuses nearby.

The death toll is expected to increase as bodies continue to be recovered from the debris.

The head of operations for Nigeria's Federal Road Safety Commission, Ben Ekenna, warned that similar such accidents will happen again if something is not done to improve the poorly-maintained Nigerian road network.

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UN plane crashes in Haiti; eleven dead

October 10, 2009 A plane belonging to the United Nations has crashed in Haiti, reports said. The UN says that all on board the plane have been killed.

The plane, a CASA C-212 Aviocar, crashed on Friday afternoon about 45 kilometres from the country's capital of Port-au-Prince, near the border with the Dominican Republic.

"The aircraft was on a regular reconnaissance flight," said UN spokeswoman Michele Montas in a statement.

All bodies were found at the crash site, the UN said, and the victims were military personnel from Uruguay and Jordan.

The plane belonged to the Uruguayan contingent of MINUSTAH, a 9,000-strong UN peacekeeping mission in Haiti. It has been in the country since 2004.

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Turkey and Armenia sign historic agreement

October 13, 2009 Turkey and Armenia signed an historic agreement, agreeing to normalize bilateral relations and reopen borders after a century of animosity. It was signed in Zurich, Switzerland.

The signing ceremony was delayed because of the Armenian delegation. After three-hour long discussion, the dispute resolved and the protocol signed by the Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu and the Armenian Foreign Minister Eduard Nalbandyan, with participation of the United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey, French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner, EU's High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy Javier Solana, and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

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22 hostages freed after raid in Pakistani army headquarters

October 11, 2009

22 hostages were freed after military commandos raided a Pakistan army headquarters in Rawalpindi on Sunday that had been taken by militants, reports said. Four militants and three hostages had been killed in the resulting clashes including two senior officers.

The incident began midday on Saturday when several gunmen, disguised in military uniforms, attacked a checkpoint outside the heavily guarded headquarters. The initially said it had the situation under control about an hour after the attack, however, it had been discovered later that some of the militants had escaped into a security office building and were holding hostages.

"Eight to 10 terrorists were involved in this attack," Pakistani army spokesman Major General Athar Abbas said. He was quoted by the Reuters news agency as saying that "three of the hostages were killed due to militant firing."

No group has yet claimed responsibility for this attack.

On Monday, a suicide bomber disguised in a paramilitary uniform attacked a UN office in nearby Islamabad, and on Friday, a suspected suicide car-bomber killed some 50 people in Peshawar. The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for the UN bombing and threatened to target other international organizations and Pakistani government and military locations.

In response to the attacks, Pakistani leaders have vowed to start a new offensive against militants in the country's tribal regions along the Afghan border.


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3,000 protest plan to construct skyscraper in St Petersburg, Russia

October 12, 2009 Nearly 3,000 people demonstrated in Saint Petersburg, Russia on Saturday to oppose a proposition to construct a skyscraper in the city.

The demonstrators were protesting against the, a proposed supertall 77-story skyscraper for the gas company Gazprom measuring 400 metres (1,300 feet). They said that the tower would ruin the city's skyline, famous for its historic buildings, palaces, and canals.

Galina Safronova, 55, said that "this action will destroy my city, the city where I grew up, and the city that I want to save for my grandchildren," as quoted by the Associated Press news agency.

UNESCO, the cultural body of the United Nations, warned that the skyscraper, if built, may endanger St Petersburg's world heritage site status.

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Minor tears found in Gordon Brown's retina

October 12, 2009 The British government has said that eyesight tests reveal Prime Minister Gordon Brown has two minor tears in the of his right eye.

Prime Minister Brown went to the in London, England. A series of eyesight tests revealed that there were two small tears in his right retina, but no other deterioration in his eyesight.

Downing Street in has said that despite these results, Mr. Brown will not be undergoing any further operations. They commented: "This summer Mr Brown had his annual eye check-up which was fine. Later he had his retina checked. After examinations, surgeons found that the retina had two minor tears. However, as there has been no further deterioration, and no change in his eyesight, they decided against further operations. Yesterday [Friday] Mr. Brown visited Moorfields Hospital as part of regular checks on his eyes and this check was also fine. Mr. Brown wants to thank the doctors and staff of the NHS particularly Moorfields Hospital. Were there to be any change, he would of course make a further statement."

Gordon is already blind in his left eye after a rugby-related accident during his teenage years. The announce made earlier this week comes roughly two weeks after he made an appearance on on  as a guest on September 27, 2009. He was given some medical questions from about his health, including if his eyes were OK, and if he took prescription painkillers, while on the air. As a result, the BBC received several hundred complaints from viewers.

Editor Barney Jones made an apology. In a statement he said: "We felt that with a general election looming and with former and current cabinet ministers warning of electoral defeat unless the party turned round its current position, a robust interview centred on the economy and the Prime Minister's leadership was appropriate.

"The former Home Secretary,, suggested this month that health might be a reason for the Prime Minister to stand down and within the context of a long interview about policy it was reasonable also to ask Mr Brown about his health. The issue of his health and whether it affects his ability to perform the onerous job of leading the party and the country was pertinent, and has been raised with other Prime Ministers in the past."


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User talk:Adamtrimble

Welcome
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User:Trinity507

Trinity507 - Wikinews
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Talk:Minor tears found in Gordon Brown's retina

The title makes it sound like the article is making fun of him (Minor tears, as in crying, -> title could be interperted that it is shocking that he has emotions or something along those lines). Bawolff ☺☻ 03:42, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * yeah, when i read that title that's the first thing that I thought. Not sure what's the best way to rephrase it. What's a good synonym for "tear" in that sense of the word? Tempodivalse [talk]  13:18, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


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BJP will win
I think Sena-BJP will surely win in the Belapur constituency despite of Rahul Gandhi's coming to Panvel on thursday as PWP and Sena-BJP have a secret alliance to give the congress a defeat. Whaddya say? Srin ivas  04:22, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


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Boyzone member Stephen Gately dies at age 33

October 11, 2009 Boyzone member Stephen Gately has died suddenly at the age of 33 while on holiday on the Spanish island of Majorca.

Gately was on holiday with his partner Andrew Cowles when his body was found on Saturday. The information was confirmed on Boyzone's official website on Sunday. The other members of Boyzone were said to be travelling to the same island on Sunday before his death was discovered. Dan Wootton, showbusiness editor for British tabloid News of the World, told BBC News that the singer had left the means of accommodation to go out for some drinks, returned, fell asleep and never woke up again. Spanish police report his body was found on a sofa in the lounge.

Louis Walsh, manager of the group and also a judge on UK television singing competition The X Factor, commented, "We're all absolutely devastated. I'm in complete shock. I was only with him on Monday at an awards ceremony. We don't know much about what's happened yet. I only heard after The X Factor and we will rally around each other this week. He was a great man."

A spokesperson for Spanish police said today in Majorca, "[a]t the moment it is not known how he died. There are no signs of suspicious circumstances. "Gately's time of death was given as approximately 13.45 UTC. The police spokesperson added, "[d]etails remain pretty unclear. We managed to take a look at some documents, they tell us that police received the body around half past four. We think we know he was drinking in a bar, perhaps they went to a restaurant, but none of this is confirmed."

Gately's family hope to hold his funeral in Dublin, Gately's home town. A representative of the family stated they are "shattered".


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wot a tragic story of a young man who had a great talant and so much live for.my sympthy and love to his parnter and his family.RIP Stehpen y oy will be greatly missed.Love mimi,in seveoakes xxxxx

how very sad??? a young man 2 go so sudden seems so unfair again i lost my partner 2 yrs ago at 36 its so tragic theres so much life 4 it to b taken?? seems so unfair god bless yous all n time does heal if u remember the good n try not 2 b angry ,wot a lovely and talented man he will b remembered,,,my heart goes to all who loved him which is plenty, sleep tight steve hope u got peace ,all our love from lisa an reannan aged 9 xxxxxxx god bless ya xxx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.53.240 (talk) 23:51, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

That's what he gets for being a SINNER —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.42.173 (talk) 04:30, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Some people will never cease to amaze me. Why is it so hard to remember 'judge not, lest ye be judged' or other, similar things throughout the Bible? Regardless, my heart goes out to the deceased's partner. May he find the strength to carry on. -CyberStormAlpha (talk) 09:13, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

The above person should keep their opinion to themselves. Stephen was a great man and he will be missed by many. Please do not soil his name with your HATRED. RIP Steo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.72.164.66 (talk) 13:46, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

LULZ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.42.173 (talk) 04:39, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Complete Shock - Devastated!
When I heard the news of the Death of Stephen Gately, I was in total disbelief. I can honestly say that this is the most shocking sudden death I have heard of in recent years. I know many people would not consider Stephen to be in the same league as Michael Jackson or Patrick Swayze, but they would be wrong. Stephen Gately was a legend and a true gentleman. He has been part of my life since I was seven years old and brought joy to so many people. His bravery in the face of public reaction to his sexuality was truly remarkable and he paved the way for others to be open and honest with their own sexuality in the entertainment industry. It is an immense loss to Irish entertainment and to the pop industry as a whole. I am deeply deeply saddened and shocked by this loss. It is just so tragic. How can this happen to a healthy, fit and clean living young man? I am at a total loss, as are so many others. My condolences to Andrew, Stephen's family and to the Boyzone boys and their entire friends and family circle.

Rest In Peace Stephen (Steo). You will be missed. God Bless. xxxxx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.72.164.66 (talk) 13:43, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

untimely death of a boy band.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Enanteves (talk • contribs) 14:42, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "awesome"
awesome —125.237.101.65 (talk) 08:24, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

I love you anyway, Steo! ...always :)


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I could use a hand building my own profile. I'm no good with either HTML or the Wiki script, unless there's a pre-built template to use. --CyberStormAlpha (talk) 08:56, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

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Comments:"Family Guy" corn maze spans seven acres

This is a very bizarre article. It obviously still needs a lot of work. Although, to be honest with you, I don't think that this should be published at all. --Rayboy8 (talk) 15:50, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


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Our submission guidelines
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In the future, if you'd like to submit news, we are more than happy to have your help! Just make sure to check out this article, which talks about what Wikinews is not.

Thank you for your contributions! Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 18:55, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

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17 killed after Cambodian ferry capsizes

October 11, 2009 At least seventeen people were killed on Sunday after a river ferry in Cambodia capsized in a tributary of the Mekong river.

The ferry, with 30 people onboard, was travelling to a ceremony at a Buddhist temple. The incident occurred overnight in the Kratie province, about 160 kilometres northeast of Cambodia's capital Phnom Penh.

Reports suggest that the boat capsized due to being overloaded with passengers. "There was no storm or heavy rain when the boat sank. The accident happened because it was overloaded with passengers," said police Major Leng Sarum.

Two boys under the age of five and fourteen women were among the casualties, according to Kratie's governor Kham Phoeun.


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User talk:Greenmanwitch~enwikinews

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Luis Soltren surrenders in 1968 hijacking of Pan Am 281

October 14, 2009

Luis Armando Peña Soltren surrendered to United States law enforcement at 1:30 Sunday, at New York City's John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK).

Soltren had arrived on a flight from Havana, Cuba, where authorities say he has resided 41 years to avoid prosecution. Soltren is charged with air piracy and kidnapping, for allegedly participating in the November 24, 1968 hijacking of Pan Am Flight 281, which took off from JFK.

According to the December 1968 indictment against him, by then-United States Attorney Robert M. Morgenthau, Soltren conspired in the hijacking with Jose Rafael Rios Cruz, Miguel Castro and Alejandro Figueroa. Soltren, Cruz, and Castro seized control of the flight, originally destined for Puerto Rico, using guns and knives they had smuggled in a diaper bag. They forced the pilot to land at Havana instead. Such hijackings were frequent at the time, with 30 successful or attempted diversions to Cuba in 1968.

Cruz and Castro pled guilty in the 1970's, and received 15 and 12-year sentences, respectively. Figueroa was acquitted in 1969.

United States Attorney Preet Bharara announced that Soltren would "finally face the American justice system that he has been evading for more than four decades." Soltren reportedly arranged his return because he wanted to visit his wife, who lives in either Florida or Puerto Rico. He is expected to be arraigned Tuesday.


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Denver win 2009 USAFL National Championship

October 12, 2009

The Denver Bulldogs have defeated the Seattle Grizzlies to win the 2009 (USFooty) National Championships - the clubs seventh since 2000. In what was described as a close, hard fought game, the final scores ended with Denver 2-5 (17) defeating Seattle 2-2 (14).

Denver (3-0-0 12pts) knocked off Golden Gate (2-0-1 8pts) for a spot in the final by defeating reigning champions Vancouver by 52 points in the last game of the group stage. Seattle (2-0-1) managed to get through on percentage only over New York (2-0-1).

Seattle were playing in Division 1 this year after defeating Calgary by 19 points in the 2008 Division 2 final. Without Seattle, Calgary won the Division 2 title. Division 3 was won by Dallas, Ohio Valley/St Louis won Division 4 and Calgary Blue took the Women's final.

While Australian rules football is generally played on a field 170 metres by 160 metres, the fields used for the event were "150 yards long and 110 wide". The two teams consist of 18 players a side. Scores are quoted as goals-behinds (total). Games lasted for two twenty minute halves as opposed to four twenty minute quarters normally played.

Baltimore/Washington fielded a team in both Division 1 and in Division 4.

"Division IV has eight teams that are largely combined squads - although the Baltimore/Washington Eagles are sending a full B squad that will require no combining with extras from other teams," said USFooty media spokesman Kevin Smith.

USFooty president Rich Mann told Wikinews that NFL style competition with six or seven teams was possible.


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OR

 * 2 x 20 minute halves
 * Seattle promoted from Div 2 2008
 * Defeated Calgary in 08 Div 2 Final

--RockerballAustralia (talk) 03:15, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Typo?
Shouldn't the headline begin "Denver win s ..." rather than "win"? 76.235.36.188 (talk) 05:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


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User talk:Nsaum75

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User talk:MascotGuy~enwikinews

Please explain why you've just created multiple accounts using the names of blocked sockpuppets on the English Wikipedia. – Juliancolton  | Talk 03:51, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Blocked
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User talk:Chzz

Please visit my talk page on English Wikipedia. Chzz (talk) 06:39, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

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I've suggested US undergraduate commits suicide after 'outing' via webcast for a featured article, even if I am opposed to straw polls for every flipping thing. It's a great article, imo. -  Amgine | t 05:59, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

 * OK, good stuff; I noticed it seems quite popular, but isn't featured, yeah. Chzz (talk) 06:03, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Why are you awake? en.WN prefers to suck essence from well-rested souls. -  Amgine | t 06:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I have noticed it appears to get a bit lighter and darker, on a seemingly regular basis, but thicker curtains and good electric lighting helps me ignore it, mostly. Chzz (talk) 06:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

LGBT student suicides
Hi. Amgine was commenting just now in IRC that xe's become aware that this month the US has seen at least five LGBT student suicides, all with bullying connections. There ought to be some news commentary/coverage on this wider issue soon. Since the recent death made an impression on you, I thought you might be interested in collaborating with somebod(y/ies) to do some comprehensive reporting. Try and catch the two of us in IRC sometime if you're interested, we'll go from there. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

 * OK; certainly worthwhile. I'll think about it, and if I have time, sure. Cheers, Chzz (talk) 21:10, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

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Article stuff I've done

 * Two children killed in fire in Derbyshire, England; man arrested (edited a bit)

Created

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Talk:3,000 protest plan to construct skyscraper in St Petersburg, Russia

Please update
The second source has an extra title parameter, containing a url, which is causing an error. Please remove it.--Auric (talk) 19:59, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 20:31, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Please, add the category Category:Saint Petersburg to the aritcle. Thanks! --Brateevsky (talk) 19:02, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ Microchip08 (talk) 01:02, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Tweaked to Category:Saint Petersburg, Russia. --Pi zero (talk) 01:53, 24 September 2018 (UTC)


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Body found in Auckland, New Zealand drain

October 12, 2009 Police searching for a missing two-year-old girl have found a body in a drain in Auckland, New Zealand.

New Zealand Police have been searching for two-year-old Aisling Symes, who disappeared one week ago after being spotted for the last time near her grandparents' house in the Henderson region. The body was found in that area at around 8:00 PM local time on Monday. Bob Harvey, who is the mayor of Waitakere City, made a statement Monday night confirming that the remains of a human body had been found.

Inspector Gary Davy made a statement on behalf of New Zealand Police, saying that it was "with tremendous sorrow" that the body had been found. He also said: "It is too early at this stage to know how the child got there, or in fact, how long the child was in the drain.

"Police are speaking with the family of Aisling Symes, but it is too early to determine for certain that it is Aisling," Davy said. "The immediate scene has been cordoned off and it is now being treated as a crime scene."


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Irish priest seized by gunmen in the Philippines

October 12, 2009 , an elderly priest from Ireland, has been seized by gunmen on Mindanao Island in the Philippines. He was taken from his residence on Sunday at gunpoint. The gunmen fled in a minivan, and later boarded a boat.

Father Sinnott, who was a priest for the Missionaries of St Columban had heart surgery four years ago, according to friends.

"He's a very robust man for his age, but he has had a heart bypass four years ago," said director of the Columban Missionaries, Father Pat O’Donoghue. "The concern that I would have is that if he does not have his medication this would be very serious thing for him, especially given the shock."

No group has claimed responsibility for the taking of Father Sinnott, but speculation suggests the militant group Abu Sayyaf was responsible. Police Chief for the western region of Mindanao, Angelo Sunglao, said that “Abu Sayyaf is known to be operating near the area."

Despite being one of the smaller militant groups, Abu Sayyaf is also regarded as one of the deadliest and is known for kidnaps of foreign aid workers and tourists. They were responsible for the 2004 bomb attack on a ferry that killed over 100 people.


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