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Wikinews interviews the Wikimania 2010 Poland bid promoter

December 30, 2008

Wikimania is an annual conference for users, developers and other people involved in the wiki projects operated by the Wikimedia Foundation. It is held yearly since 2005. The first conference was held in Frankfurt, Germany, on August 4-8, 2005. The second one was held in Boston, USA (on August 4-6, 2006), the third one was held in Taipei, Taiwan (on August 3-5, 2007), the fourth Wikimania was held in Alexandria, Egypt (on July 17-19, 2008) and Wikimania 2009 will be held in Buenos Aires.

Melbourne, Daytona Beach, Rio de Janeiro, Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Gdańsk, Montpellier and Oxford are among current unofficial Wikimania 2010 bids. Below is Wikinews ' conversation with the Gdańsk bid promoter and initiator, Wojciech Pędzich.

''' Wikipedians from Tricity are involved in the process of making an offer, which will give Poland a chance of organizing a world-wide conference of Wikimedia Foundation, Wikimania 2010. Among the competing cities are Washington, D.C., Rio de Janeiro, and Oxford. This year the conference was held in Alexandria, Egypt, where the famous Library of Alexandria is located. Does Gdańsk stand a chance among such known cities?'''

 * Wojciech Pędzich: Because of Wikimania continental rotation, Australian and European bids have the biggest chances in 2010. Australian, because they have not hosted Wikimania yet, and Europe, because the first Wikimania was held in Frankfurt back in 2005. Do we have a chance among other European cities' proposals? Poland is still an interesting, unknown, and a cheap-to-visit country with a comprehensive list of countries from which their members can visit Poland without requirement of having a visa. We propose the conference to be held inside two adjacent buildings – Polish Baltic Philharmonic and the Polish Maritime Museum buildings, located just few steps from Long Market at the city's centre. Yes, I do think that our offer will be attractive and will give us a real chance of organizing the Wikimania 2010 in grad upon Motława.

' The tagline of your proposal is Gdańsk - the city of freedom''. Could you tell us, why do you promote yourself with this line?'''
 * Gdańsk is associated by many with freedom, with its political impact. On the other hand, we have the Wikimedia Foundation and its values of sharing knowledge created freely by volunteers. A conjunction of a cosmopolitan city with strong revolutionary and liberal inclinations and a world-wide free culture is in this case, kind of, natural.

''' How many are involved into creating a proposal? Poland is relatively small country. Are you sure you will be able to guarantee the efficiency of conference, if your proposal wins?'''

 * Poland is not exactly small - of course we cannot be compared to the USA, India, or China, but we are not a small country either. Let's remember that according to the old way of presenting the Wikipedia language editions' ranking, we were the fourth edition. Even after committing a change to this ranking system, we are still in the first ten. Therefore, we can say we have a great community potential here. Moreover, other Polish Wikimedia projects also place themselves within first tens of respective projects.
 * Speaking about people involved – so far we have only few, and sometimes I lament about that. Every next person is a possibility of sending few mails, talking with other people, additional pair of eyes looking at the offer, some ideas, contacts, knowledge. That's why Patrol110 has spammed Pomeranian Wikipedians, so they could get involved, and so am I giving a weight to this: we need more people. Especially if our offer will win, but then I believe in another famous Polish "national spurt".

''' Were there, in Gdańsk, already some world-wide conferences? Did the city manage to organize them?'''

 * On December 5 and 6, 2008, the 25th anniversary of awarding president Lech Wałęsa with Nobel Peace Prize was held. Furthermore, it was held inter alia inside the Polish Baltic Philharmonic, which we propose as a place of the Wikimania 2010 conference. It was an event with over one thousand attendants from all over the world, and the city, in my humble opinion, did manage to organize this very well. The mayor of the city, Paweł Adamowicz, has confirmed it, by saying After successful celebrations of 25th anniversary of awarding Lech Wałęsa with the Nobel Peace Prize we see that we can organize big events. [...] Ołowianka does its job as a big congressional place perfectly. [...] Gdańsk will, once again, get a world-wide coverage in Dziennik Bałtycki interview. I do have a hope that we will get a world-wide coverage thanks to the Wikimania.
 * The City organizes a lot of cultural and trade events. There are Gdańsk International Fair, St. Dominik Fair, Shakespeare Festival, Good Humor Festival. We should also not forget other parts of the Tricity: Sopot and Gdynia which are also rich in cultural events.

''' Lately Poland tried to get a bid for the European Institute of Innovation and Technology and Euro 2012. Both actions have brought a large government support. How is it this time?'''
 * We've contacted the city's authorities. After a meeting with representatives of the Mayor's Promotion and Chancellery Department we have got assurance about supporting our actions, what was confirmed by Mayor's letter sent to us. The representatives assure us about their support all the time. They even have made an initial reservation of both buildings for July 9-11, 2010. They also offer an organizational support, which will be extremely important in case or city is chosen.

''' Poland is a part of the European Union. What about Wikimedians, who are inhabitants of countries requiring a visa?'''
 * As I stated before, the list of countries, which citizens are not required to have a visa when entering Poland for 90 days is pretty long, and it does not restrict to Schengen Agreement participants. Long list of Polish missions abroad and freely available Visa application form should allow easy access to Poland for other countries citizens.

''' Information about Gdańsk application to host Wikimania started to appear in local media. What is local community reaction to this idea?'''
 * One can see it in the comments to the articles. Those that do not like Gdańsk in general are slightly against but most is for the idea. There are also people and organisations declaring help - I've got already some mails from potential supporters.

''' As you said before some people are objecting, probably not knowing possible benefits. How will Gdańsk and it's inhabitants benefit?'''
 * In addition of prestige, as we are talking about international event run by the organisation managing a flagship of Free Culture movement, world's focus, city presence in world's media, the conference will cause a money influx, new guests who can decide whether to come back to the city or suggest visiting it to their friends. We try not to make any troubles to city inhabitants, hoping that a conference held in one place will not paralyse the whole city.

''' Many possible visitors are not able to cover the cost of travel to Wikimania. What about organizers sponsorship?''' ''' Wikimania is not only lectures, but also a possibility for long night talks with participants from other countries. How does Gdańsk's night-life looks like?'''
 * It will depend on talks with companies willing to be sponsors. But I do not imagine leaving such requests unanswered.
 * There are plenty of places where you can meet and talk with each other. You can see it in a draft offer where one can see hundreds of places where you can talk while eating and drinking. Proximity of Old Town invites for a walk through streets with a wonderful and unmatched atmosphere, you can only feel by yourself.

''' English is the language of Wikimania. Will the attendants be able to communicate with employees of restaurants, clubs, shops, etc.?'''
 * Personally, I encountered the shop assistant, who couldn't sell the product to foreign people only once; also just once I saw a rough translation of "polska kuchnia" as "Polish kitchen" instead of "Polish cuisine". The Poles are able to communicate in English, I saw their communicativeness by teaching adults English for seven years. Most of menus and other informations in Old City's venues are translated into English and German, and the waiters know English at a level, which allows the customers to get a trouble-free service.

Wojciech Pędzich (b. 1979) - comes from Szczytno, graduate of English linguistics in 2001, inhabitant of Gdańsk since 2001. Except of husband and father's roles, an employee of the Purchase Department in a power hydraulics company. Involved in Wikimedia projects since December 2006, in the beginning as a translator of articles and guidelines for Polish Wikipedia, then the administrator of the project, a member of the first Arbitration Committee Board in Polish Wikipedia. Wikimedia projects' steward since December 2007, member of the Wikimedia Polska Association. One of the initiators of Gdańsk Wikimania 2010 bid proposal.


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I hope this is going to be completely translated. It would be good to work on interviews for all the prospective candidate cities. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:12, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * And I hope for spell checking, me English ain't that good. :D Hołek ҉ 22:21, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't worry - spell checking is the easy part. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:32, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well then, I leave the rest to you. :) Hołek ҉ 22:00, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Gdańsk vs Danzig
From what i gather, they both mean the same thing. Wikipedia sames to favour Gdańsk (which appears to be the polish version, where Danzig is german). Some (rather rude) contributor tried to change it to Gdańsk. Which one should we use. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:44, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I've not looked again, but I was sure I'd seen both in the article - a little confusing. I'd go with the Polish one, it goes with the WN:SG on using local spellings. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:59, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Gdańsk, I totally agree with Bawolff, Danzig will be more recognised by Germans, who might frown in puzzlement at "Gdańsk", but apart from that language, we ought to stick to "Gdańsk". Wpedzich (talk) 13:17, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

 * I'd like to add (a mere 11 years late), should anybody happen to stumble upon this, that Gdańsk residents (Gdańskians?) with long memories might be uncomfortable with Danzig owing to the botching by the League of Nations' botching of the whole International Free City of Danzig debacle. The so-called Freistadt was a dark mark on Polish history, and is seen by many as providing context to Hitler's invasion. It was part of a global culture seen by Hitler types (and others, including many of his political opponents and modern historians) as 'soft' on matters of international dispute. (It is notable going forward that the Allies were very ineffective at supporting the uprisings against dictatorship and genocide that were mounted in occupied Poland during the 40s.) The Poles are a fiercely proud people who have sacrificed unimaginable amounts in defence of their nation. It is, of course, unfortunate that something as neutral as a foreign language word for the same thing has come to have such connotations. It is especially unfortunate given it was intended to be a very positive thing when it came about, at least by those responsible for the compromise. But, if I make the connection, one supposes many Poles would too. Let's not go there. BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 03:40, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Category more specified?
Should the caegory prehaps be Wikimania 2010 instead of the more general Wikimania? --Ainali (talk) 00:09, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It depends. If past Wikimania reporting had indicated a good chance of getting three or more Wikimania articles for one year, I'd say yes. That's not happened, so I would say category Wikimania 2010 should be created if we have this and another two Wikimania 2010 articles. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:51, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Unclosed formatting
The bold formatting should be closed at the end of the line.. ShakespeareFan00 (talk)
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NFL: Packers defeat Lions 31–21, Lions become first team to finish season with 0-16 record

December 29, 2008

The Green Bay Packers defeated the Detroit Lions on Sunday evening by a final score of 31–21, effectively ending the Lions' season with an 0-16 record. The game was played at Lambeau Field in Green Bay, Wisconsin and was televised by Fox in the United States. Kickoff was at 1:00 p.m. EDT. The Lions became the first National Football League franchise to complete an "imperfect season" (without a victory) since the introduction of the 16-game schedule in the 1978 NFL season. The winless season comes just a year after the New England Patriots did the reverse, accomplishing the NFL's first "perfect" 16-0 regular season.

After trailing the game 14–0 entering the second quarter, Detroit rallied back to tie the game at 14 by the end of the third quarter. The Packers took a 10-point lead halfway through the fourth quarter with a field goal by kicker Mason Crosby (Green Bay 17 - Detroit 14) and then a touchdown pass from quarterback Aaron Rodgers to fullback John Kuhn (Green Bay 24 - Detroit 14). The Lions fought back with a rushing touchdown by Kevin Smith which left Detroit within three points of tying the game. However, just 11 seconds later, the Packers took possession and Aaron Rodgers completed a 71-yard touchdown pass to wide receiver Donald Driver (Green Bay 31 - Detroit 21). The Packers held on to the lead for the remainder of the game to seal their sixth victory on the season.

Lions quarterback Dan Orlovsky was 22-of-42 for 225 yards with two touchdowns and two interceptions. Calvin Johnson led the Lions in receiving with 102 yards and touchdowns. Kevin Smith led the Lions in rushing with 92 yards and one touchdown.

For the Packers, quarterback Aaron Rodgers was 21-of-31 for 308 yards and three touchdowns, and running backs Ryan Grant and DeShawn Wynn rushed for 106 yards each. Wide receivers Donald Driver and Greg Jennings led the Packers in receiving, both tallying over 100 yards.

Prior to the Lions' loss on Sunday, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were the only franchise since the 1970 AFL–NFL merger to finish a season without a victory or a tie. The 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers finished their season with a 0-14 record. It was the Buccaneers franchise's first season in the NFL. Tampa Bay also lost the first 12 games of the 1977 season, and the team's 26-game losing streak is still the longest in NFL history. The 1982 Baltimore Colts were the most recent NFL team to not win a game in their respective season, failing to win in the strike-shortened 1982 season, posting an 0-8-1 record.

The Lions' loss was closely watched by some members of the 1976 Buccaneers team, including defensive end Pat Toomay. Toomay told reporters, "I would like the torch to be passed...At the same time, you don't want to wish that on anybody." Toomay also pointed out that although the Buccaneers lost every game in their inaugural season, the team reached the NFC Championship Game in their fourth season (1979).

Steve Spurrier, the quarterback for the Buccaneers in the 1976 season, voiced his support for the Lions in their quest to win their first game of the season, hoping that only the Buccaneers would hold the distinction of finishing an "imperfect season."

"I want that record," Spurrier said. "I'm pulling for them, sure," Spurrier added. "That's the American thing to do, isn't it?"

Entering the game, the Lions were 10½-point underdogs against the Packers in spread betting. Lions tackle Gosder Cherilus likened the team's chance to avoid the 0-16 finish as a championship game. "It's our Super Bowl," Cherilus told reporters on Friday, December 27.

The Lions surpassed the 1980 New Orleans Saints with their 15th consecutive loss on December 21 to become the first team in NFL history to lose the first 15 games of the season. The 1980 Saints lost their first 14 games, but won their 15th game against the New York Jets.

The closest margin that the Lions came to within victory was two points, which came against the Minnesota Vikings on October 12. Minnesota won the game by a score of 12–10. The 1976 Buccaneers suffered five shutout losses (in which they did not score a single point) in their winless season. The closest that the Buccaneers came within victory was a 23–20 loss to the Miami Dolphins on October 24, 1976.

Prior to the regular season, the Lions won all four of their games in the exhibition season, which do not count in regular season standings or totals.

While the loss didn't come without a fight from the Lions, players from the team knew that they would be forever remembered as possibly the worst team in NFL history. "I've got to live with this," Lions center Dominic Raiola said. "I've been here eight years. This is on my résumé."

"I don't ever want to be a part of this again," Lions quarterback Dan Orlovsky said. "We haven't won since, November of '07, maybe? I don't even know the last time we won a game." The franchise's last victory in the regular season was on December 23, 2007 against the Kansas City Chiefs.

Packers players were just as eager for a victory. Green Bay's quarterback Aaron Rodgers said while their own season was disappointing, they didn't want to be forever remembered as the team that lost to the 0-15 Lions in the final game of the season. "We didn't want to lose, no, we didn't," Rodgers said. "But really it's not on your mind once the game starts. I didn't even think about it until the fans started chanting in the fourth quarter. They played hard, they really did." Packers fans in attendance at Lambeau Field began to chant "0-16" late in the game.

With their victory, the Packers finished their 2008 season with a 6-10 record. With the loss, the Lions finished their 79th season since their inception as the Portsmouth Spartans in 1929. It was the Lions' 75th season in Detroit, Michigan. The franchise also secured the first-overall selection in the upcoming 2009 NFL Draft, a spot reserved for the NFL team with the worst record from the previous season entering the upcoming season.

After the game, Lions head coach Rod Marinelli declined to comment on his future with the team. Since being hired in 2006, the Lions have had a 10-38 record under Marinelli. The Lions have averaged 11 losses per season since 2001 and now have lost 23 of their last 24 games. The 0-16 record could be a lasting testimony to the Matt Millen era. With Millen as president of the team from 2001 until he was fired on September 24, Detroit won only 31 games. Millen was widely criticized for his handling of the Lions organization, and Lions fans rallied to have him relieved of duties for years.


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no. the 1976 Bucs were.

They are close. If they keep the streak going into next season, I will GLADLY call them the worst team ever. DWolf2k2 (talk) 02:15, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

The Detroit Lions Sucked Even Worse Than The Buccaneers Did In 1976 And Since Then, The Lions Have Been The Worst Thing That Has Ever Happened To The NFL

This was all destined to happen. Matt Millen should have been fired after 3 years, not 8. Reading up on the Bucs and Lions, though, the Bucs were way worse. They lost 5 shut-outs and were just horrific.

These 0-16 Detroit Lions, gotta feel sorry for them, no one wants that to happen to anybody, I hate to say it but it is the worst ever sadly and you have to feel sorry for them as well. If they keep this up their name will be changed to from "Detroit Lions" to the "Imperfecion 0-16'ers" if ya get my drift, or maybethey can go 16-0 next year who knows. Anyway Lets hear the Lions Roar for success next year: meow.71.236.33.150 08:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

yes, they are the worst team ever and have been for quite a long time

The Lions make my son's Pop Warner football team look like the '72 Dolphins

YOU THOUGHT THEY WEREN'T?

 * Face it, American Football sucks anyway. Kevlar body armour and crash helmets. Precious little being protected by the helmets. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:47, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * What the fuck are you rambling about? Get a life.
 * Get some balls and play without full combat armour. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:16, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * What do American Football players get on their SATs?
 * Drool. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:25, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

stop sounding like a bunch of fucking fruits talking about "armour" and "honour" or some bullshit. i think you guys should open a window, get some fresh air, get off the computer/wikipedia and maybe talk to a woman.

The Best!
I think that the Lions are the best at what they do......losing. I used to love watching the Lions play, at least until Barry Sanders quit.

yea

what is this for. its obvious
the statistics show that the 2008-09 Lions are the worst team in NFL history. 0-16. Who is worse? What I find funny is that they are in Detroit, where the Big 3 are failing. The city is a complete failure.

Wow... just...
Aad to think Detroit's Baseball team almost won the World Series in 2006. At least the Miami Dolphins won a game the preceding year. Detroit... it's like they didn't even try. May as well become the Detroit Pussycats, or better yet, the Detroit Pussies, because that's ALL they are.

-KWRGT4

Were the 2008 Lions the worst team in NFL history?
Yes because they let a lot of chances to win go to 0-16. In week 6 the QB just run into the endzone for a safety and the Vikings won 12-10 with the safety its a game into OT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.168.70.2 (talk) 18:10, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


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Bangladesh elects new Prime Minister

December 30, 2008

Former Prime Minister of Bangladesh Sheikh Hasina has won a landslide victory in Monday's first Bangladesh election since 2001, to return the South Asian country to democracy and after two years of emergency rule under an army-backed interim caretaker government. Commission spokesman S.M. Asaduzzaman declares "she has a clear majority to govern without any other party."

Election official Humayun Kabir on Tuesday has confirmed that Hasina's Bangladesh Awami League alliance obtained a two-thirds majority in the 330-seat unicameral National Parliament, the Jatiya Sangsad. "Voter turnout was high, with about 70 percent of the 81 million eligible voters casting ballots," he added. According to Channel i, unofficial counts reveal Hasina's Bangladesh Awami League coalition got 255 seats, while former Prime Minister Khaleda Zia had only 32 seats, and independents and other minor parties have had only five seats. The results have been declared in 267 of 300 seats, according to the Election Commission’s public relations officer, S.M. Asadujan.

Sheikh Hasina (শেখ হাসিনা ওয়াজেদ Shekh Hasina Oajed) was the Prime Minister of Bangladesh from 1996 to 2001. She has been the President of the Awami League, a major political party in Bangladesh, since 1981. She was the second female prime minister of Bangladesh.

Bangladesh (বাংলাদেশ [ˈbaŋlad̪eʃ]), officially the People's Republic of Bangladesh (গণপ্রজাতন্ত্রী বাংলাদেশ Gônoprojatontri Bangladesh) is a country in South Asia. It is bordered by India on all sides except for a small border with Burma (Myanmar) to the far southeast and by the Bay of Bengal to the south. Together with the Indian state of West Bengal, it makes up the ethno-linguistic region of Bengal.

The general election was held in Bangladesh on 29 December, after being postponed from the original date of 18 December 2008. It was originally scheduled for 21 January 2007, but postponed by two days due to demands by the opposition made in December 2006. The general election has been contested between Khaleda Zia of the Bangladesh Nationalist Party (BNP) and Sheikh Hasina of the Awami League. The Awami League has formed a 14-party alliance including Ershad's Jatiya Party, and the BNP has formed a 4-party alliance which includes the Islamist party Jamaat-e-Islami. Both Zia and Hasina, however, still have pending corruption charges. In 2007, both were detained but were released on bail.

Bangladesh has been under the 2007 interim caretaker government (বাংলাদেশের তত্ত্বাবধায়ক সরকার). Dr Fakhruddin Ahmed (ড. ফখরুদ্দীন আহমেদ Fokhruddin Ahmed) was appointed as the Chief Adviser (Head of the Government) of the non-party interim caretaker government of Bangladesh on 12 January, 2007, amidst chaos in Bangladeshi politics. President Iajuddin Ahmed swore him into Office.

The Election Commission has earlier announced the following numbers: Registered voters: 81,130,973; Candidates: 1,538; Constituencies: 300; Registered parties: 32. International Crisis Group's Rhoderick Chalmers says “It will be very hard for the BNP to swallow the result, but it will be very hard to reject outright. Early indications were that it was a clean election. There wasn’t much possibility for rigging.”

Alexander Graf Lambsdorff, European Union's chief election observer, has reported that "what we have heard is that voting has largely been peaceful, turnout has been high and procedures were followed adequately." The EU participated among the 200,000 observers including 2,500 vote watchers from abroad. A UN-funded digital electoral roll erased 12.7 million fake election names, and this has resulted in stopping widespread vote rigging allowed in previous elections.

Meanwhile, the U.S. State Department has issued a congratulatory statement to the Bangladesh Election Commission on the successful election. The United States has vowed "to continue to support the Bangladesh people and its new government," it added.

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I CREATED this landmark election since 7 years. Please help me in publishing it. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 12:36, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Names and Wikipedia links
I opted to include the Bangladesh character-names, since even if this is English Wikinews, there are those Bangladesh who might read this and this will benefit them. Also, I had to borrow facts from Wikipedia English, using its link instead of putting the original tons of sources, to simplify. Anyway, the blue links will show the sources. I do not want to put more sources, the reader will take it difficult. The title can also be changed or renamed, but I chose this for simplicity. Everybody knows now who the winner is since it is damn landslide. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 06:44, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Re-edit, confirmation, VOA, US Cong. note
I had removed the copy vio failures. I added the links on her bio, plus the confirmation by Elec. Commission and US congratulations note from VOA link. Cheers. Please review. Happy New Year.--Florentino Floro (talk) 09:04, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the Wikipedia copy paste
I really notice that many of Wikipedia English articles do not have sources. But I thought that since this is sister projects, I can use them. My other problem, is, if I do not use them, I would put tons of sources to back up my sentences or facts. Thanks a lot. I will try not to use them next time. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 09:07, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the main issue with using wikipedia like this is not that its from wikipedia, but that its copied from wikipedia. We use a different copyright scheme than wikipedia, and thus they should be used in the same way as any other source if they are used as a source. (as in not copy and pasted) Bawolff ☺☻ 09:26, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, what Bawolff said. Copy/Paste from Wikipedia isn't ok because of different licenses.  I know, it's stupid.  It's the free encyclopedia, and we're the free news site... but different kinds of free.  Hopefully that will be fixed soon. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 19:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Reliability, accuracy, neutrality and source: published news vs developing encyclopedia

 * First of all, I do admire both of your painstaking reviews to make Wikinews more reliable (than stupid Class-a journalists who are envelope-mental. I had underscored the fact that the Philippines and other killings are due to journalists' extortion). I had read many silly news even by top reporters worldwide. They just copy paste the reports without even getting the side of the other party, and/or checking the facts. They will just end up the news with the usual sentence: party cannot be reached for comment. I myself had been a victim of all these. Imagine, these reporters never read my 75 pages decision, and they reported the fact as fact, that I am consulting dwarfs to write decisions. What happened to my Second Honors and bar topnotcher ratings, my academic excellence? Here, I don't think anyone of you will believe that I consult dwarfs in writing news.(Vide: Florentino Floro and more about me.). Oh, my God!
 * Second, unlike Wiki English encyclopedia which has a disclaimer and puts it as developing, with start-class to featured articles, Wikinews, when published is OPEN to libel suits. I myself made a terrible mistake on the legal figure who was caught porn. For this reason, each sentence or paragraph, at the very least, must have sources. When I started here, I was not citing Wikipedia English, since I know this is not a reliable source as far as most news like legal ones are concerned. But I was forced since, if there are many unknown to readers - persona - then, I would be obliged to put TONS of sources. Thus, I tried to user Wiki English, and I know very good reviewers like both of you will not just let this go, I know. My dilemma therefore, is: too many sources for just a news vs. shortening persona descriptions, leaving to the reader, the assignment. Take for example Gaza and Bangladesh. This is the first time in my life that I knew about these 2 stuffs. It took me hours to learn about these. How much more the ordinary reader? Blue linking might be very burdensome for the ordinary reader, like us Filipinos who do not know about Gaza, Israel and Bangladesh.
 * Third. Since July 2007 to Nov. 22, 2008 (when I lost the blocking PERSONA battle to 2 co-Filipino editors - who just contribute in Wiki English to revert almost all of my edits, 6,700 of them - and ), all my created articles especially legal ones, are fully supported, PER SENTENCE, and religiously, by reliable sources. Why? Since, I want my works to be authorities, or so-called LEARNED TREATISES, under the Federal Rules of Procedure of California from which rule, we borrowed our Philippines Rules of Court. My Wikipedia English articles-works can be cited and presented in Court without further proof. *Writ of Amparo and Habeas Data (Philippines)*Philippine Extrajudicial Killings and Desaparecidos*Judicial Executive Legislative Advisory and Consultative Council*Sema v. Comelec*GSIS-Meralco bribery case*Anti-Trafficking in Persons Act of 2003
 * Fourth: When I opened Wiki English articles on Bangladesh and Sheikh Hasina, I could not find sources which support some or many facts (unlike my above-written articles). Therefore, you, reviewers really will have to fail my work. IF ONLY, the authors had put the sources, then, there would be no problem. IN FINE, I believe that sources to support Wikinews must also be of equal weight or have same reliability as sources for Wikinews. While libel can be filed against authors of news, libel cannot be filed against Wiki Encyclopedia for developing reasons. Happy New Year, and thanks for your scholarly penned reviews to make Wikinews better than most W Encyclopedia articles. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 06:25, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Nine dead after armed Santa Claus opens fire in LA suburb

I don't spend a lot of time reading sensational stories of this type. How many murders occur by men _not_ wearing Santa suits?

me neither. i have no idea there are a lot of crazy people out there.

OMG
OMG some people dont know how to control themselves, or forgive and forget!

Let's stop referring to "high octane racing fuel" instead of "gasoline". All racing fuel is high octane but even more importantly, the octane rating of a fuel is only meaningful inside of an internal combustion engine. This was gasoline. Pure and simple. The high-octane rating of a fuel inside a combustion chamber will SLOW down the combustion (see the wikipedia article on octane ratings) but spread about a house, it will not burn meaningfully slower than "low octane" gasoline. Just call it gasoline which is what it is.

 * It may not make a difference, but it would be shameful journalism not to report all the facts as they are. It makes no difference that it was the right wing of Chalk's Ocean Airways Flight 101 that sheared off due to metal fatigue in that the end result would be the same for the left wing, but nonetheless it should be noted that it was the right. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:08, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Guys, words are the tools of your profession, right? Why do you insist on using the imbecilic words "high octane racing fuel" when that's the same damn thing as "gasoline". I mean, I guess it makes your story sound exotic or something, when it's not. By why embellish the story with such lies. All racing fuel is high octane. And, the higher the octane, the slower it burns. That's why it's used in high compression racing engines dummy. But, the octane rating of a fuel has absolutely nothing to do with how it acts outside an internal combustine engine. The fact that you don't know that yet you insist on using those idiotic words tells me you've done absolutely no research and don't even know what it is you are writing. I must discount everything you say based on your idiocy.

 * I am tempted to simply block you for personal attacks, but I will turn a blind eye to them this time. It doesn't sound any more exotic to me, and while it behaives basically the same as 'ordinary' gasoline, it isn't. Also, the article makes no comment on what the octane rating does, so please stop acting like it says it speeds combustion up. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 01:38, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

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Philippines Senate and House of Representatives to probe ‘P50-million drug bribe mess’

January 3, 2009 Tuesday saw Philippines President, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, direct Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency (PDEA) officials and Department of Justice (DOJ) Secretary Raul M. Gonzalez to investigate and charge the people involved in an alleged drug bribery attempt involving wealthy Filipino families. The president also instructed the chair of the Dangerous Drugs Board, Vicente Sotto III to keep in custody the drug suspects, the so-called 'Alabang Boys'. This pending the DOJ's reinvestigation of the alleged P50-million bribe mess.

In September, Richard Santos Brodett, age 25, Jorge Jordana Joseph, age 22, and Joseph Ramirez Tecson, age 23, members of the "Alabang Boys", were arrested in a series of buy-bust operations in Alabang, Muntinlupa City, and Cubao in Quezon City. 60 ecstasy tablets, small bags of marijuana and cocaine sachets were taken from the suspects by the drug agents. The three suspects underwent the DOJ's preliminary investigation, but the drug case was dismissed by a draft resolution signed by 2 prosecutors from the National Prosecution Service on December 2.

In the challenged resolution, State Prosecutor John Resado, with the recommending approval of Senior State Prosecutor Philip I. Kimpo and Chief State Prosecutor Jovencito Zuño, noted that the police operatives conducted illegal arrests and unlawful warrantless searches on the vehicles of the three suspects. In addition, Joseph was “under the control of the PDEA agents without the presence of any counsel when information against respondent Tecson was extracted from him,” it added.

The PDEA has accused the suspect's family members of attempting to pay a 50 million Philippine peso bribe to one of the DOJ prosecutors handling the drug case; in exchange the case was to be dismissed. PDEA Special Enforcement Service head Major Ferdinand Marcelino has revealed that the 50 million peso bribe offer to a DOJ prosecutor was merely the first attempt of three. The Tecson family reportedly offered him 3 million pesos which was later raised to 20 million for the release of the suspects. PDEA Legal and Prosecution Service lawyer Alvaro Lazaro affirmed Marcelino's accusations, which, however, were all denied by the suspects' families.

The Chief State Prosecutor, Jovencito Zuño, categorically dismissed accusations that 50 million pesos had changed hands, and that he and the prosecutors had been bribed. "It's not true. That's a big lie. They're just speculating," he said. Zuño has also alleged that the factual findings were first reviewed by state prosecutors Philip Quimpo and Misael Ladaga. The Justice Secretary has ordered the NBI to investigate not only the government prosecutors but also the PDEA.

According to PDEA chief, Ret. Gen. Dionisio Santiago, the "Alabang Boys" - Richard Santos Brodett, Jorge Jordana Joseph and Joseph Ramirez Tecson - are part of an international drug network. "This is a big group, and they use the Internet to get drugs from America. This operation may lead to a bigger one. They (Alabang Boys) are second in line. It's hard to penetrate the second line," Santiago explained. (DOJ) Secretary Raul M. Gonzalez on Thursday, however, has asked PDEA Director General Dionisio Santiago to submit evidence to show that money changed hands or had been paid to DOJ prosecutors handling the case amid the pending NBI probe of the matter.

Meanwhile, The Philippines Congress is set to hold Congressional hearings on the case with a view to introducing legislation. "This is a big scandal involving a government agency," said House vice chairman of committee on illegal drugs, Representative Antonio Cuenco of Cebu City. He has said that the House of Representatives' probe will begin on January 5. The three suspects are still detained at the PDEA Quezon City detention centre.

The Senate of the Philippines is also set to conduct hearing on the bribery mess. According to Dangerous Drugs Board chair Vicente "Tito" Sotto III, Sen. Gregorio "Gringo" Honasan, chair of the Senate committee on Public Order and Illegal Drugs, has agreed to lead a Senate inquiry investigating the 50-million peso drug bribe.

In a related drug bust operation, La Union Rep. Tomas Dumpit said that the buy-bust in his province had a 'similar ending.' "That's very possible just like the case in Naguilian, La Union where a shabu (methamphetamine hydrochloride) laboratory was discovered in Barangay Bimotobot, Naguilian, La Union worth one trillion pesos but it was dismissed by the DOJ." In July, a "shabu" laboratory was searched by the PDEA and the local police, who discovered eight truckloads of equipment and chemicals that could produce 180,000 kilograms of the prohibited drugs. La Union Bishop Artemio Rillera has recently petitioned the President to re-open the cases. On November 12, the DoJ three-member prosecution panel dismissed the cases against former Dagupan police chief Supt. Dionicio Borromeo, four policemen and the shabu laboratory lot owner. Because of the 'Alabang Boys' bribery mess, President Arroyo on Tuesday, ordered the reinvestigation of the shabu laboratory case.

This is not the first time that the Philippine judiciary and government had been involved in massive corruption. In the recent GSIS-Meralco bribery case, the High Court dismissed Associate Justice Vicente Q. Roxas, punished Associate Justice Jose L. Sabio, Jr. with 2 months suspension, and reprimanded 2 other CA Justices. In September 2006, Atty. Romeo Roxas accused Justice Minita Chico-Nazario of issuing a ruling for certain considerations, and calling the Supreme Court a “dispenser of injustice”. Roxas said her decision ordering him and one Santiago Pastor to return more than 17 million Philippine pesos to Antonio de Zuzuarregui Jr. was wrong and unjust. Roxas told Nazario: to “sleep well if you still can” and that she would be judged by the “Supreme Dispenser of Justice.” Roxas was cited for indirect contempt and fined 30,000 Philippine pesos.

In April 2007, Philippine Court of Appeals then Presiding Justice Ruben Reyes has ordered an investigation and a regular auditing and inventory of temporary restraining orders (TROs) issued by the 69 CA Justices. Reyes stated: “I will order a monthly or quarterly inventory of TROs, for transparency and to watch the movements of the so-called Dirty Dozen [the 12 most corrupt CA justices].” CJ Reynato Puno said that Ombudsman Merceditas Gutierrez had not yet submitted the list and the Supreme Court was waiting for its delivery amid her formal investigation against the “Dirty Dozen.”

In September 2007, Lawyer Victor de la Serna has accused Justice Dante Tinga of accepting a 10-million bribe Philippine pesos in the Johnny Chan versus Carmelita Fudot lawsuit, regarding a land located in Doljo, Panglao, Bohol. De la Serna alleged that in the September 26, 2007 meeting, Chan, owner of Bellevue Hotel, paid Tinga 10 million Philippine pesos in exchange for a favorable decision. On September 13, 2007, Tinga penned a decision in favor of Chan’s Cattleya Land Inc., over Fudot, client of De La Serna. The court, however, upheld Tinga, and fined De La Serna 30,000 Philippine pesos for indirect contempt.

In September 2007, Justice Consuelo Ynares-Santiago has denied charges that she received 10-million Philippine pesos (US$ 224,000) bribe money (as published by The Daily Tribune, Malaya newspaper's Amado Macasaet and Newsbreak, the previous week).

In January 2005, and December 2006, Philippines Social Weather Stations has released the results of its 2 surveys on corruption in the judiciary. It has reported that: a) "like 1995, 1/4 of lawyers said many/very many judges are corrupt. But (49%) stated that a judges received bribes, just 8% of lawyers admitted they reported the bribery, because they could not prove it. [Tables 8-9];  judges, however,  said, just 7% call many/very many judges as corrupt[Tables 10-11] ;b) Judges see some corruption; proportions who said - many/very many corrupt judges or justices: 17% in reference to RTC judges, 14% to MTC judges, 12% to Court of Appeals justices, 4% i to Shari'a Court judges, 4% to Sandiganbayan justices and 2% in reference to Supreme Court justices [Table 15]."

According to the 2008 Political and Economic Risk Consultancy (PERC) report, the Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia and China are considered among the most corrupt Asian economies. “The Philippines is a sad case when it comes to corruption, and is probably no worse than in places like Indonesia and Thailand,” the report added. PERC has revealed that "the Philippines scored 9.0 out of a possible 10 points under a grading system used by PERC under which zero is the best score and 10 the worst."

Meanwhile, the Supreme Court of the Philippines last week, has affirmed the conviction and 40 years imprisonment sentence of Zeng Wa Shui, a Chinese citizen and Maribel Lagman, his Filipino partner. On March 14, 1996, both had possession, in Angeles City, Pampanga, of more than 600 kilos of liquid shabu and more than 1,600 kilos of ephedrine hydrochloride, a main ingredient in the production of the drug.


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I CREATED this drug bribery Philippine scandal. This is the biggest bribery since 1901. Please help in publishing it. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 08:20, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The P's should be changed to pesos per WN:SG as PhilippinePeso.svg is not a well known symbol. Bawolff ☺☻ 11:54, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, when I wrote the title, this was in my mind, but I do not know how, so with kindness please edit the title, if you may. Happy New Year. Thanks.--Florentino Floro (talk) 11:57, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually if its a quote (written quote) we should probably write it as how it is written from wherever we are quoting from (although if its ₱ sign, that symbol isn't supported by all fonts, and might have issues on MSIE). Bawolff ☺☻ 12:05, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

The biggest bribery ever
Since 1901, this attempt is the biggest. Yes, exposed. But the other dwarf this. They never get to media. Billions of pesos change hands. They get search warrant, then buy-bust, and the ending, is cover-up. They commercialize drug deals. The DOJ and prosecutors get the big chunks and PDEA and the Senators. Judges and lawyers get very little.--Florentino Floro (talk) 11:52, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

So many sources
I am sorry that I had to detail the sources. Since of the many, only one source mentioned the 2 prosecutor Philip Quimpo and Misael Ladaga. These are the principal characters in the done deal. This is a big legal news. Hope they will not have pains in reading the sources.--Florentino Floro (talk) 11:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Pres. Arroyo ordered re-opening of P 1 trillion shabu lab dismissed case in La Union
The Philippines is the biggest manufacturer of shabu in Asia. The modus operandi is: a) the drug cartel and syndicates will open labs here scattered all over, b) when one big lab is caught, there will be incarceration then charges, c) then, cases dismissed, since, unlike personal crimes of murder, rape, etc. Drug cases do not have private complainants, and only corrupt govt. officers are involved. So, about $ billions of bribes are given for the release, d) the ending is these moneys are evenly distributed to election kitty's of barangays, towns, provinces, cities, and ultimately to the main political parties, here Lakas and Kampi of Pres. Arroyo. That is why the image of politico corruption is universal. DRUGS BRIBERY = Elections.
 * In my short stint as judge in Malabon Manila from Jan. 25, 1999, to July 20,1999 when I was suspended for allegedly consulting dwarfs in decisions, I exposed the big drug problem in Malabon. They countered with dwarfs. They silenced me. We are only 5 judges, and I receive about 15 drug cases a week. Each drug case can be settled in courts for money. But these are small cases. The big ones, worth P 1 trillion are in shabu labs. So, court personnel are like rats who scramble for bribe moneys: to release or reduce bail or to acquit the accused.
 * Here in my town Malolos, Bulacan, in 26 court salas, and in the nearby Provincial Jail, there is overcrowding because of shabu cases. Jails are like sardine cans. In the Phil. Department of Justice and PDEA, the lawyers or prosecutors can earn fortunes in just one case. IN FINE, you will not believe that shabu now, in Philippines, costs much more than cocaine. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 07:48, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy 2009 New Year
All I ask, this New Year, is kindness, since I am just one month here, and as lawyer and judge, without any single subject or elective in AB Communications or journalism, and since my legal language is thousands apart from journalism, I beg the indulgence of reviewers to be more patient with my copy vios and backing, and many sources - not to be annoyed so to speak, I am trying my best. At the very least, I have TIME to learn more from all of your and our collaborations.
 * I had revised this with updated Jan 1 link and dec 31 link. Hope this pass now. Please review, Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 09:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

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Polish Wikinews reaches 9,000 articles

December 30, 2008 The Polish edition of Wikinews yesterday at 1:23 PM published its 9000th article, containing information about discovering an unknown poem by Tetmajer. The author of the news item was Yves6.

Wikinews is developed in 27 language editions, with the English edition publishing the biggest number of stories. The Polish language edition occupies the 2nd position and contains 800 articles more than the German edition.

Polish Wikinews started out on February 19th 2005 and has 2302 registered users now, out of which 40 are active editors (users active in the last 30 days). 16 sysops take care of the site's housekeeping.

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Are you planning doing this for the other bids too? 87.114.4.125 20:20, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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Illinois Governor Blagojevich appoints Roland Burris for vacated U.S. Senate seat

January 3, 2009 🇺🇸 Democratic Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich has appointed former Illinois Attorney General Roland Burris to fill President-elect Barack Obama's vacated United States senate seat.

President-elect Obama and U.S. Senate Democratic leaders, however, say they will not accept the appointment from the governor, who is accused of pay to play politics and was arrested earlier last month on charges of corruption.

Obama declared in a statement that "Roland Burris is a good man and a fine public servant, but the Senate Democrats made it clear weeks ago that they cannot accept an appointment made by a governor who is accused of selling this very Senate seat," adding that "the best resolution would be for the governor to resign his office and allow a lawful and appropriate process of succession."

Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White also says he will not accept the appointment from Blagojevich. As the custodian of the Great Seal of the State of Illinois, whose use is required to formalize state documents, his refusal to certify the writ of election would indefinitely stall the appointment.

"Although I have respect for former Attorney General Roland Burris, because of the current cloud of controversy surrounding the Governor, I cannot accept the document," stated White.


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 * Is this being to self-focused? We're essentially publishing an article that we have 9000 articles in polish. Seems kind of self-centered to me. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:07, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's ok we brag about ourselves once in a while. We've done 10k+ articles for en.wn... pl.wn is right behind us, why not.  Plus shit is slow right now -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 22:50, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

 * IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAANNNDDD! :) 24.61.99.125 18:35, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

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We couldn't get a xlation of the relevant Polish articel could we? 76.117.247.55 23:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


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Obama. For sure.

I'm so glad for December you included the victory of one NFL team over another while not including the earth-shattering riots that spread all over Greece for over two intense weeks. You guys sure do have your heads on straight for seeing what's important. That football game will really go down in history books and fundamentally alter our social relationships.

I totaly agree. That needs to be changed asap. Heck even if we are going to put in sports stuff, then even the super bowl would be a better choice. Not that that is worthy either. This page could also use an awsome picture like the one in the 2007 overview.--24.27.105.15 00:27, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

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South Africa defeats Australia in second cricket test

January 4, 2009

South Africa convincingly beat Australia by 9 wickets in the second cricket test being played at the Melbourne Cricket Ground. It was the first time Australia has been beaten on home soil since 1992 when the West Indies beat Australia by 2-1 in the five match series. It was a see-sawing game that had both teams appear to be on top at times and only hours later struggling. The turning point came late on day three when Jean-Paul Duminy solidified the South African innings going on to eventually make a personal high score of 166. His partnership of 180 with Dale Steyn, who was dropped three times, became a frustration to Australia.

Australia commenced proceedings and was eventually dismissed for 394 in its first innings. The innings finally ended in the first session of day two when Peter Siddle was caught in second slip by de Villiers of a thick edge from a Kallis seamer. It was a sound score after Australia again started slowly losing Mathew Hayden for 8 when the score was 21 continuing a run of bad scores for Hayden this year.

Captain Ricky Ponting again was the mainstay of the innings with a hard fought century, finally falling to a catch by Amla of Paul Harris. This was Pontings 38th century and now only three behind Sachin Tendulkar world record. Middle order batsman Michael Clarke struggled early with slow scoring and remained not out on 88 of a 208 balls including only four boundaries and a solitary six for Clarke.

South African speedster Dale Steyn again proved his ranking as worlds second best bowler taking five wickets including Simon Katich and Michael Hussey. In the second day morning session he removed Brett Lee and Mitchell Johnson in the same over before taking his final wicket of Nathan Hauritz.Steyne finished with 5 for 87 and was well supported by Ntini (2/108) with Kallis, Harris and Morkel each taking one.

South Africa's run chase hit trouble with the loss of early wickets in its first innings. The trouble started when Neil McKenzie was bowled by Peter Siddle for a duck in the second over of the day. Amla showed some early promise before playing a loose shot to be caught by Andrew Symonds of the bowling of Mitchell Johnson in the eighth over. South African veteran Jaques Kallis provided support for Smith to carry the score to 109 before being caught behind of Hauritz.

Returning from the lunch break Australia took control with three quick wickets in nine overs. First to go was Smith caught behind of Siddle who was gaining in confidence. Only Smith managed to assert control scoring 62 from 113 balls, he has been the mainstay of the South African batting line-up this tour scoring strongly in each innings. Soon after de villiers and Boucher's wickets fell leaving South Africa 6-141 still trailing Australia by more than 250 runs and attempting to avoid the follow-on.

In the final session middle order players Morne Morkel and Jean-Paul Duminy steadying the innings with partnership of 43 before Morkel was bowled by Johnson in his first ball of a new spell. Paul Harris joined Duminy and remained unbeaten on 8 at the close of play. South Africa finished the second day of play at 7/198 with Duminy the last of the recognized batters unbeaten on 34. Australia clearly held the advantage with a lead of almost 200 and only three wickets remaining.

Day three would change the shape of the game with strong, determined batting from South Africa combined with lackluster bowling from Australia. Harris was out early on day three which brought pace bowler Dale Steyn to the wicket. His 76 of 191 balls was another personal best and despite being dropped three times looked every part the batsman.Duminy had total control of the bowlers and with Lee sitting on the sideline with suspected stress fractures of his heel, the bowling attack was limited and struggling. His innings of over seven hours included 340 balls, 18 boundaries, took the score from 6-141 to all out for 459, a lead of 65 runs. The falls of Duminys wicket late on day three meant Australia was required to face a tough three overs to close the day.

Australia began the fourth day with the goal of wiping out the deficit from their first innings and then set a target for South Africa to chase. Those plans quickly changed when Australia's opening combination of Hayden and Katich again failed with Hayden being caught by man of the moment Duminy on 23 from the bowling of Steyn. Katich fell two overs later and when Hussey was dismissed for only two in the 15th over Australia was in trouble and defending grimly at 3-49. First innings century maker, Ricky Ponting, and Michael Clarke steadied Australia and took the score to 145 when Clarke became Steyn's third wicket for the innings. Symonds, Haddin and Lee fell in quick succession with Australia reeling at 7-180 and only Ponting providing resistance. Ponting eventually fell for 99 having struggled through the nineties and then seemingly "choked" on an easy ball that should have brought up his century. Mitchell Johnson atoned for his first innings duck and supported Ponting well and continued his aggressive approach to finish on 43. Hauritz and Siddle offered little resistance and Australia was all out for 247 a lead of only 182 and more than a days play remaining.

Graeme Smith commenced the run chase with his usual aggression making striking boundaries at will and finishing the days play at 25 after only six overs. Smith continued the same approach the following morning taking a total of ten boundaries in his score of 75 from only 95 balls. He had taken South Africa to a winning position and needing only 61 runs to win a historic test series. Neil McKenzie and Hashim Amla confidently closed the game finishing on 1-183 from only 48 overs.

For Australia the pain was magnified with key players Symonds and Lee unlikely to take further part in the series due to injury and should Australia lose the last test in Sydney they would not only lose the world number one spot, they would fall to number three behind India with the Protea's taking top place. The final game will be played in Sydney on the 3rd January.


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Belgian king swears in PM Van Rompuy, cabinet

January 4, 2009 The Belgian parliament on Friday approved the new Van Rompuy I Government consisting of the same five political parties that formed the last ruling coalition, temporarily ending the country's political crisis. Lower house deputies approved the Motion of Confidence by a majority of 88 votes to 45, with no abstentions. "Don't judge the government... by its intentions but by its results, but no results in the very short-term, judge us in 2011," Van Rompuy told the lawmakers.

Herman A. Van Rompuy (herman van rɔmpœy) had officially been invested on Tuesday as Belgium's third premier in a year by King Albert II. He addressed parliament Wednesday seeking quick economic measures. In his declaration, he urged the passage of bills to rejuvenate an ailing economy heading into deep recession and sought to resolve the 18 months political crisis after the country spent over nine months in caretaker rule. He also asked for full restoration of confidence amid the near-collapse of the country’s two largest banks.

"The previous government proposed such a plan (pumping 2 billion euros or $2.84 billion, into the economy next year, part of a 200 billion euro EU-wide stimulus package). It must be enacted as soon as possible," Van Rompuy said. "It is clear that in the coming weeks and months the government will take new initiatives to cope with the challenges that the crisis poses for the economy and employment," he added.

In his lower house of parliament speech, Van Rompuy also called for experts to testify in an unbiased parliamentary inquiry on Yves Leterme’s cabinet's alleged attempt to influence the judges into allowing the breakup of Fortis, once Belgium's largest bank. “The investigation should be carried out serenely and without bias,” he said.

Van Rompuy, age 61, is a conservative Belgian Flemish politician and member of the CD&V (formerly called CVP) who succeeds Yves Leterme. On December 28, 2008, he was asked by King Albert II to form a new Government after he was reluctant to take up the role of Prime Minister after the Leterme I government had fallen on 22 December 2008 due to the bank bailout scandal.

The Van Rompuy I Government became the new federal government of Belgium on December 30. It comprises 15 ministers and seven secretaries of state. Eighteen of the 22 ministers served in the same posts in Prime Minister Yves Leterme's government. Vietnam Prime Minister Nguyễn Tấn Dũng on Friday has sent congratulatory messages to the new Premier.

Prime Minister Yves Leterme offered the resignation of his government on December 18 to King Albert after a crisis erupted surrounding the sale of troubled Fortis bank to BNP Paribas. Leterme, Justice Minister Jo Vandeurzen, and Didier Reynders were accused of violating the separation of powers and exerting improper influence by trying to influence the Court of Appeals; this accusation was made by the First Chairman of the Court of Cassation. Three days later the resignation was accepted by the king.

Meanwhile, the Flemish opposition led by Flemish nationalist NVA party, Jan Jambon, challenged the legitimacy of Van Rompuy's government, calling it "a government which does not represent a majority of the Flemish people". Other opposition parties also questioned the created "Fortisgate" parliamentary commission of enquiry alleging it was a scheme to acquit Leterme.

The Kingdom of Belgium (ˈbɛldʒəm) is a country in northwest Europe. It is a founding member of the European Union and hosts its headquarters, as well as those of other major international organizations, including NATO. Belgium covers an area of 30,528 km2 (11,787 square miles) and has a population of about 10.5 million. Belgium shares borders with France (620 km), Germany (167 km), Luxembourg (148 km) and the Netherlands (450 km). Its total area, including surface water area, is 33,990 square kilometres; land area alone is 30,528 km2.


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I CREATED this Kingdom of Belgium landmark political article. Please help in publishing it. Happy New Year.--Florentino Floro (talk) 09:34, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

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Vietnam Prime Minister Nguyễn Tấn Dũng on Friday has sent congratulatory messages to the new Premier.

This sounds odd within the article. I mean, was Tan Dung the only head of state in the world to congratulate the new Belgian premier? Probably not; then, why does only he get mentioned? If the article is going to mention international reactions to the nomination, shouldn't it present also the states more closely related with Belgium - such as the USA and the European neighbors? 189.79.100.161 18:29, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


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Mathematician Martin Taylor awarded knighthood

January 1, 2009 Pure mathematics professor and Vice President of the Royal Society Martin Taylor is among the scientists honoured in the British New Years Honours List. Professor Taylor, who becomes a Knight Bachelor for services to science, headed the SCORE group, which consisted of science teachers who advised the government on how to boost school pupils' interest in the sciences.

Taylor is known in mathematics for his work on the properties and structures of algebraic numbers. In particular he proved in 1981 the Fröhlich Conjecture. Albrecht Fröhlich was his PhD supervisor at King's College London. The conjecture relates the symmetries of algebraic integers to the behaviour of certain analytic functions called Artin L-functions.

At the young age of 33 he was appointed to a chair in pure mathematics at UMIST and continued in this position until the merger with the Victoria University of Manchester in 2004 when he became a professor in the School of Mathematics of the newly formed  University of Manchester.

Taylor has received numerous honours including the London Mathematical Society Whitehead Prize in 1982 and shared the Adams Prize in 1983. He was elected a Fellow of the Royal Society in 1996. He was President of the London Mathematical Society from 1998 to 2000. In 2003 he received a Royal Society Wolfson Merit award and he became Chairman of the International Review of Mathematics (Steering group). In 2004 he was appointed Physical Secretary and Vice-President of the Royal Society and in 2006 he awarded an Honorary Doctorate by the University of Leicester, the university in the town of his birth.


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User:Brian McNeil/Credit Crunch Blues

Oh my bank, they foreclosed on me! Said it had something to do with liquidity. I said, "I've got cash, take a look you can see". They said, "that ain't worth much, it's just paper you see? It won't buy a Porsche for our old CEO Gotta pay him a million Before he will go".

Shoulda listened to grandma, whispering on her death-bed, Pay those goddamned bankers back with fast moving lead. Now my house is in hock to industrial spies, Can't afford price rises, can't afford French fries I stand here flippin' burgers, I gotta serve with a smile, Gonna pay off my mortgage, With mah fuckin' air miles!

I got the credit crunch blues Ain't you seen it on the news? I got the credit crunch blues Make them bankers pay their dues I got the credit crunch blues Let's watch the DOW go down the tubes I got the credit crunch blues Yeah, we all lose

So I visited Iceland, where the savings got froze Their banks all got closed down, why? Nanook only knows! Then I found out the council put some money in there too, So that hole in the road, man? There ain’t nothing we can do. So you ask about money, now, where did it all go? Well the rich guys snorted 'n' smoked it, bought McMansions, you know?

Put 'em in a hole!

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NASA issues survivability report on Columbia crash

January 2, 2009 NASA has issued a report on survivability during the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster, entitled "Columbia Crew Survival Investigation Report". Although the report finds the accident was impossible to survive, it still faulted a number of design issues with the astronauts' equipment.

The accident investigation report was released in 2003, the year of the crash. During launch on January 16, the spacecraft's wing was holed when a chunk of foam detached and struck it. The shuttle then broke up on re-entry on February 1 over Texas, killing the seven on board.

This new report reveals details of what happened to the astronauts during the accident sequence, although some parts have remained confidential to the victims' families. The report reveals that within seconds of the breakup commencing the crew became unconscious due to the rapid depressurization and that they never regained consciousness prior to their deaths.

The report notes that the cabin began spinning wildly, causing some of the astronauts' helmets to come off. The report noted that most on board were secured only by lap harnesses that offered no restraint to the upper body and were not designed to cope with sideways motion, meaning "lethal trauma" was caused by the rotation. However, the report was unable to determine whether the astronauts had died from oxygen deprivation or the extreme nature of their injuries. The pressure suits the crew wore, introduced after the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster, were criticised as the crew could not keep their visors down throughout re-entry due to a design limitation that would have caused excess levels of oxygen to be present had they done so, leaving the suits unsealed. The gloves also made many tasks difficult or impossible. When the accident occurred, three people were not wearing gloves, one was not wearing a helmet, and none had their visors down. The helmets also did not conform to the heads of the wearers.

Upon disintegration, the occupants were exposed to extreme heat and high friction from re-entry. The astronauts likely died very quickly, and were probably dead by the time Columbia broke apart.

The report added that although the crew all wore parachutes, they had to be activated by the crew — impossible as they were unconscious. The report concluded that future spacecraft require sturdier construction and better restraints, while safety devices should be automatic. NASA is designing better suits and helmets.


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I added image:Martin J Taylor.jpg to the article. Its been a long time since i've gone through WN:FU and friends. I think the image qualifies as fair use-publicity, but I'd appreciate it if someone could confirm that, as I'm not 100% sure. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:00, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That's the picture put out in the Royal Society, press release as well as on his the University of Manchester home page. I'm pretty sure its fair game as used in a press release?Billlion (talk) 17:31, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd say so. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

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Dear editors, I propose to add Category:King's College London to this news piece. -- Merlaysamuel :  Speechify 10:18, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * A good thought. Turns out, it's already there. :-)  --Pi zero (talk) 17:29, 17 June 2012 (UTC)


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Slovakia starts using euro today
The European country of Slovakia will have the euro replace the koruna as its official currency, starting January 1, 2009. Slovakia is the sixteenth country to start using the euro. The official conversion rate is set at 30.126 koruna to one euro.

Joaquín Almunia, the European Union Economic and Monetary Affairs Commissioner, stated that the conversion will be "a proud moment for the euro area [...] the euro has become the symbol of EU identity and is protecting us against the tremendous external shocks that we have had to cope with since the summer of 2007."

January 1 also marks the tenth anniversary of the euro being introduced as globally exchangeable currency.

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Attempted baby-theft in Tennessee
A woman in Tennessee, United States dressed up like a nurse and tried to steal a baby from a hospital's maternity room but police arrested her. Adriene Johnson, 24, is now in custody after trying to steal the baby. The woman entered the hospital's maternity room dressed in scrubs and was going to take the baby's temperature said police.

Security was alerted to Johnson when she tried to take the baby out of the hospital. The room was then locked down and the baby was handed over to the doctor. Johnson was on bond after being arrested by police on Monday. She was also charged with trying to steal a baby's rocker from a Wal-Mart which she tried to get a refund on.

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Spanish Wikinews reaches 4000 articles
Wikinoticias, the Spanish edition of Wikinews, has reached 4000 articles two days after the Polish edition had published its 9000th article. The news item was published today at 8:27PM (UTC) and it has information about the death of the South African anti-apartheid activist and politician Helen Suzman.

Wikinoticias is the seventh largest Wikinews edition, based on number of published stories.

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Comments:Bangladesh elects new Prime Minister

Kudos too the people of Bangladesh and I hope for the best of their new prime minister.--KDP3 (talk) 19:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

The non acceptance of the results by the opposition BNP is not a good sign. But the first statement of Sheikh Hasina that she will fight terrorism along with India augurs well for the region as it has impact on ULFA and also Anup Chetia of ULFA who is trying to flee to Pakistan.

Bangladesh Election Results 2008 Followed by an Internatinal conspiracy
The original schedules for election was january 22, 2007. The than opposition party Awami league and its allies was dismantled to their success. So they made a brutal political chaos in capital dhaka streets and many political workers were beaten to death.In this way some of the Diplomats rolled over active and a new army backed interim government installed. New Government emphasised an anti corruption drive and most of the BNP leaders and workers was detained by an emmergency law. In the elction procedures EC and the administrative bodies favoured the Awamileague. they obstructed BNP to funding and re-organize the party. On the otherhand, awamileague and its allies managed most of the electronic and print media to run a overwhelming propaganda campaign with the controvesal warcrime issue. Most of the 15 millions of new voters motivated by one sided media campaigns...This was the main component of awamileague to a Landslide victory in the parliament electins.


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What should i improve in this article to make it ready to publish? --Wyksztalcioch (talk) 20:12, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


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ITS OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAND

WHAT?! NINE THOUSAND!?! Bmgoau (talk) 05:07, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

THAT CAN'T BE. IT MUST BE BROKEN


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Hello! Happy New Year, and welcome to Wikinews!

Regarding your question, I think that your article is short enough to be included in the shorts in its current form. However, if you could add another paragraph or two to the article, then it would be large enough to be published separately. Here is the link to today's shorts, if you want to copy the story there. Best, ♪ Tempo Di  Valse ♪ 01:10, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

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Talk:South Africa defeats Australia in second cricket test

not sure what copyvio issues you have but please let me know ......i actually wrote this without referring much to other texts initially then went back to ensure facts aligned with sources......that is.....i watched the game live on TV for days :) Bjornengelhardt (talk) 02:02, 1 January 2009 (UTC)


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New Year fire kills at least 59, injures 212 more at Bangkok pub

January 1, 2009 A Thai inferno greeted the world and the Year of the earth Ox (牛) after a pyrotechnic display started a blaze which ripped through Santika, a three-story Bangkok nightclub, in Ekkamai Soi 9 (Sukhumvit 63), Ekkamai district, Thong Lor. Police Colonel Suphin Sapphuang has confirmed that at least 59 people are dead - 53 at the fire scene and six later in various hospitals. At least 223 people were injured, including 29 foreigners; all have been taken to Bangkok hospitals, including Ramkhamhaeng, Bangkok, Kluaynam Thai 2, Vipa-Ram hospitals, for emergency treatment. Thong Lo (or Thong Lor or Thonglor, ทองหล่อ a.k.a. Sukhumvit Soi 55), is a road in Watthana district, Bangkok, Thailand.

According to Gen. Jongrak Jutanont and media reports, the victims who suffered injuries include at least four Britons, including Steven Hall, a British national, two South Korean, one Singaporean, and four Japanese nationals, and citizens of France, Australia, Nepal, and the Netherlands. Media reports reveal most of the fatalities are Thais but foreign residents and international tourists are also among the fire victims of the "Bad Boy Party". Teo Sze Siong, a Singaporean has died, while one of the Japanese, Wada Keiichi, 25, has 60 percent burns and is in a coma. The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) says it has confirmed "three Australians - a 29-year-old woman, her 30-year-old brother and a 49-year-old man - have been injured" in the fire. Firemen have put out the blaze after two hours, which started on the upper floor. Lt. Sutin Pongkhamphan has revealed a stampede of about 1,000 celebrants inside the pub, which has few exits, has caused most of the deaths and serious injuries. Others have also died due to burns, smoke inhalation and suffocation. "The fire spread very quickly because there was a lot of fuel in the club, like alcohol, foam and balloons," he added. Police Lieutenant Colonel Prawit Kantwol has further explained that "the fire started from the area of the stage where a band was playing. There were some pyrotechnics and it appears that they started the blaze."

Senior fireman Wacharatpong Sri-Saard has provided details saying "there was only one main way to get out from the front. People who worked there were able to escape from the back because they knew the exits, but the others had no chance." The club's New Year's party poster advertising is entitled "Goodbye Santika," a dire omen and ironic promo gimmick, since the owner has planned to transfer the building to a new location because of termination of lease contract.

Meanwhile, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, on Thursday morning, has said that the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) has established a coordinating assistance centre for injured victims.

The Asian Tribune says 30 bodies are "very difficult to identify". It has further reported that all charred bodies have been delivered to the Chulalongkorn Hospital for forensic study and identification with the aid of the Police Hospital. "39 bodies had been identified by Thursday afternoon — 38 Thais and one Singaporean," Police Major Akaluk Siriyodsophon said.


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A Thai inferno greets the World on New Year eve. 59 klilled, 212 injured. Please help in publishing this.--Florentino Floro (talk) 05:40, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

 * This story has an entry at Wikinews Shorts: January 1, 2009, though I am sure a full article would be well deserved for this tragedy. --SVTCobra 05:44, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

 * I am sorry to have overlooked that. At any rate, since this dire tragedy may not be duplicated in gravity later on, and is a dire omen to come for Asian zodiac lovers, I think, what is important is SYNTHESIS: people are scrambling for details of NAMES and identities of the victims. I provided the Japanese and Singaporean names and 3 aussies. Hope they will benefit from this full article.--Florentino Floro (talk) 08:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy 2009 New Year
All I ask, this New Year, is kindness, since I am just one month here, and as lawyer and judge, without any single subject or elective in AB Communications or journalism, and since my legal language is thousands apart from journalism, I beg the indulgence of reviewers to be more patient with my copy vios and backing, and many sources - not to be annoyed so to speak, I am trying my best. At the very least, I have TIME to learn more from all of your and our collaborations. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 08:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

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Well, I know, if my images are too subjective due to lack of exact image on Commons, please feel free to delete or change them, just love images. The Ox New year is still Jan 26. But we adopt it now. --Florentino Floro (talk) 08:30, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

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this diff shows the needed copyedit work that I did. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:12, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

The Year of Ox hasn't come yet
The editors of en.wikinews, the Year of Ox by Chinese calendar hasn't come yet, absulotely hasn't yet. The Year of Ox will begin on Jan 25th, 2009. So the comment on the main page is false.--1j1z2 (talk) 20:50, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

6 January 2009 - 14 February 2010: Earth Ox

 * Thanks for the message. I think, I had discussed this, but I can't find my thoughts, maybe, I failed to upload my comment on this matter. During the development and pre-review, I used earth (elemental) ox based on Wki En.. I think I had suggested that technically speaking the year of the Ox starts on January 26. I cannot miss this date, since this is the birthday of my brother Robert, we await this. So, I am really sad that I had pushed the limit of the Chinese calendar backwards just because I love images, you know, as I stated since 1975, I am a failed Nikon photo dreamer. Lawyer-judge is not my ambition but race horse jockey and photo.
 * But suffice it to say, that, since this is English Wiki, then, I pondered that though the Ox starts on 26, but vis-a-vis the Gregorian Calendar and Wiki calendar of Jan. 1, earth ox can be merged with Jan. 1, since it is just 25 days. I know this is a big fallacy and no logic will accept this. I am sorry for my very far-fetched stretching of the Ox to Jan. 1. Here in the Philippines Chinese new year is celebrated in China Town on the Chinese date. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 07:46, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


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= Have you visited Thailand? Does Bangkok need to tighten fire regulations on nightclubs and restaurants? =


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Mount Everest plane crash blamed on pilot error

January 1, 2009 Investigators in Nepal have blamed the crash of a near  in October last year on. Eighteen of the nineteen on board were killed when struck a rock at the side of the runway at  and caught fire.

The only survivor of the crash was the aircraft's captain. Twelve Germans, four Nepalis and two Australians were killed. The flight had departed from Katmandu and was attempting to land at Lukla, which is at an elevation of 9,200 feet (2,800 meters), and has a sheer drop at the runway's end.

The report says the pilots had underestimated deteriorating weather conditions during approach, and had attempted landing after entering a thick patch of fog. Investigators examined the crash site and interviewed eyewitnesses before producing the report, which has been submitted to the government.


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Article has been reviewed and has passed its review. ♪ Tempo Di  Valse ♪ 15:37, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

The article name is totally misleading - at least to anyone who has any familiarity with the area. Why does it say "on Mount Everest"? The plane was nowhere near the mountain when it crashed. Everest is about 30-35 km NE of Lukla. RedWolf (talk) 18:00, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

 * The title does not say 'on' anywhere. It's a simple edit to change on --> near. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:55, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

 * My second statement about "on" was referring to the opening paragraph, not the title, although perhaps I did not initially make this clear. The article title is not appropriate as it implies the plane crashed on the mountain when it was nowhere near it. Do people really think 30-35 km away is close? RedWolf (talk) 00:16, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Both the sources listed do. Also remember Lukla is considered an important transport link to Everst. No worries on the misunderstanding, I should have realised what you meant. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 00:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

 * (edit conflict) It sounds closer to Everest than London Gatwick, London Luton or London Stansted airports are to London. Is there a closer airport?  --InfantGorilla (talk) 00:26, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


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Criminal appeals denied for American Evangelists

January 3, 2009

Kent Hovind's Appeal for his and his wife, Jo's, felony convictions was recently denied by Eleventh Circuit Court. The court found that the Hovinds' appeal was "without merit." Kent and Jo were convicted of 58 and 44 tax-related felonies respectively, obstruction and intimidation of federal officers, willful failure to collect and pay taxes, and structuring to avoid bank reporting requirements. Kent is a Pensacola young Earth creationist/Evangelist and operator of Dinosaur Adventure Land whose speaking engagements and merchandise earned US$5 million from 1999 to March 2004.

The Appeal looked at several issues and concluded that there was enough evidence to convict the Hovinds and that the government did not err. Among other issues, it ruled "Sufficient evidence establishes that Kent failed to collect or pay withholding taxes." It cited that "Employees of Evangelism Enterprises, peers, and legal counsel testified that Kent disputed the authority of the Internal Revenue Service based on the separation of the church and state, debated the interpretation and application of the withholding requirements, and intentionally characterized Evangelism Enterprises as a 'church' and his employees as 'missionaries' to avoid tax obligations."

The Appeals court also ruled that the Hovinds "challenge the validity of their convictions on the ground that the statute does not penalize transactions below $10,000," but the court ruled "this interpretation does not comport with the language of the statute." Furthermore, it found "that Kent intended to impede agents of the Revenue Service (IRS) in their efforts to investigate and prosecute Kent’s violations of the tax laws" by "fil[ing] complaints and sued agents of the Internal Revenue Service and instituted legal proceedings to circumvent the lawful seizure of his assets." Lastly, it affirmed the forfeiture of substitute property when the original property was transferred or deposited with a third party.

On January 19, 2007 Kent was sentenced to ten years in prison and ordered to pay US$640,000 in owed funds to the IRS, pay prosecution's court costs of $7,078, and serve three years parole once released. Whereas, in June 2007 Jo was sentenced to one year and one day in prison, but the judge released her pending appeal.


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Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Alexis12. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Alexis12~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:12, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:28, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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User talk:Enzuru

Move
I agree with the name change. --Enzuru (talk) 01:00, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

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User talk:BritishWatcher

Welcome
Cirt (talk) 03:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

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Comments:Mount Everest plane crash blamed on pilot error

aircraft captain Rå¡Ð_§å¥ÑT€® must have and a angel around his neck to survive a colision like that

Lukla crash
Early government and media reports suggested the plane clipped a perimeter fence at the foot of the runway. We were in Lukla shortly after the crash, and it was very obvious the fence was not involved. Instead, the plane appeared to have impacted further downhill, near a large rock off to the left hand approach (northern) side of the runway. The fence didn't appear to be significantly involved. The pilot's approach was simply too low, and crashed before reaching the fence. The wreckage has since been removed from the point of impact, and collected a short distance above the site, still at the bottom of the runway. It was crudely covered with a tarpaulin.


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User talk:Star Garnet

Welcome
Cirt (talk) 04:30, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

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User talk:81.31.151.56

Welcome
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