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Internet Radio Equality Act proposed

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Internet radio broadcasters may find a savior in a recent proposition in the US Congress. The recently proposed Internet Radio Equality Act, introduced by representatives Jay Inslee (D-WA) and Donald Manzullo (R-IL), would strive to revert the drastic changes applied to Internet radio royalties by the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) that will go into effect on May 15, 2007, and retroactive since January 1, 2006. The proposition aligns Internet broadcasting fees to be more inline with those of satellite radio, for a flat fee of 7.5% of the broadcaster's revenue, rather than the CRB rules of .08 (2006) to .19 (2010) cents per song for private broadcasters, or $500 per month for public broadcasters if below a specific number of listening hours.

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A common fear among Internet broadcasters is that they will have to file for bankruptcy once the fees of the CRB will go into effect. "Over 90% of internet radio will simply be gone. The net result will be a huge loss of diversity, a huge loss for music artists and a loss of virtually all of the internet radio that exists," claimed Joe Kennedy, CEO of Pandora.

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Western New York recovering after major internet outage

Residents and businesses in Buffalo, New York and the surrounding Western New York area are recovering after an internet outage occurred during the weekend. Customers of Time Warner Cable reported losing their service around 4:30 a.m. on Sunday. Many customers could not connect to the internet, had a connection but slow speeds, or had issues accessing "secure web pages such as MSN/Hotmail, Yahoo, eBay, Google and MySpace.com," according to a recorded message on Time Warner's customer service line.

The issues started to occur when Time Warner began the final system switch from the former provider, Adelphia Cable's PowerLink to Time Warner's Road Runner high speed internet. As part of the switch over, many customers were assigned new IP addresses, which is believed to have caused many of the issues with not being able to connect to the internet.

Service should have been restored today, said a spokesperson for Time Warner, but many customers are still experiencing issues. Time Warner said that by shutting down your computer and modem, unplugging them both for several minutes, then rebooting them, should fix the issues customers have.

Despite the number of people experiencing the issues, Time Warner says that "there should not have been too much disturbance of the system. [The outage] certainly got a lot of people's attention on our end," said Robin Wolfgang, a spokeswoman for Time Warner.

If you still experience issues, Time Warner asks that you call their customer service line at 1-888-683-1000. It is not known when all service will be fixed, but some customers report that when calling Time Warner, the service agent says that some customers may not have service restored for at least 3 to 5 days.

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Called the customer service line my self. Got the automated recording on what sites are effected. Talked to a person but they would not release their name to the press. I also am one that experienced part of the outage. Customers report are just general reports I got from people when asking around the city. DragonFire1024 04:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Made a call again to Time warner. Agent said that the renewal of IP addresses to customers who had the former Adelphia service caused most of the issues with not being able to connect to the internet. DragonFire1024 11:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


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Music
Yup, you tell me what you want done and i will rustle it up for you as soon as poss (will probs be tommorrow though). -- Mark Talk 22:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah sorry about this, havent managed to do it yet, got a lot going on and it takes quite a long time. I should be able to do it this week but if not it will be top of the list next week.  Sorry bout this. --Mark Talk 09:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

kk (i couldn't get on the irc) srry :(  --Symode09 01:18, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No Problem :) If you click on the left side of the Wikinews navigation bar, you can log in VIA the web. DragonFire1024 01:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Did you see the graphics eventually? If you did, did you like the video..... nice to see fox maintains its reputation! --Symode09 08:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

What should I add to the graphics to make them more impressive? Should I change direction? It doesn't look quite right yet.

I know about the image - I tile stickeylabel about the project lol --Symode09 08:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Much like Mark, it takes a long time, so I will try to see what I can get together, I've got the start done already. Trisreed 09:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Ticker
Could i ask you to look at Wikinews_talk:Bots and give your views please whilst your online. SOrry for the spam but want to get a consensus today. Thanks --Mark Talk 10:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, i miss it too (never seen it working here, but other places) and we can get one over on that *%^"!*(&$$!"$)& Commons delinker (grrrrrrr!!)--Mark Talk 11:33, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Video sent
I have sent the email with an AVI version of the intro that works with WMP, and should also work with Winamp. If you don't get it, lemme know and I'll re-send. :) —Zachary talk 12:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey, can you email to the video_wikinews@hotmail.com account the opener so I can put it on the soap box along with the other openers? --Symode09 13:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey Dragonfire!

I'm just putting together a collection of pics of the contributing video wikinews team to be posted on the blog. If you want your pic to be added to the collection, email it to; video_wikinews@hotmail.com (no pressure)

--Symode09 15:48, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

HEAPS GOOD!!!!!! What program do you use? Can u email me the vid in another format so I can put it on the soapbox... also, see above message --Symode09 16:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

AWB
I see that you've granted AWB requests in the past. I'd like to ask you to begin watching this page, which is where new AWB requests should go. Thanks!  Thunderhead  ►  20:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Wikinews on YouTube
It's really cool. But mabie we could use the music from Broadcast/Soundtrack instead. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  23:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree it's pretty awesome - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 01:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey dragonfire!

Can you change the header at the top of the page so the trailer link goes to the blog and not youtube?I've put your video on the blog

--Symode09 02:09, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

The graphics links have been fixed. Visit the wow starts now page and you can see all the new graphics (3.0, 4.0, 5.0 --Symode09 03:35, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Can you change the header? I have added your video to the blog... can you make the header link to the blog?--Symode09 03:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * How goes the Wikinews channel?  Thunderhead  ►  03:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No one really comes in but Zachary and i use it to communicate the images for the promos. DragonFire1024 04:15, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou for unblocking elmo! You are the first person to be awarded with the lucky elmo to hold onto for the night! Elmo now loves you! Thanks for forgiving elmo!

--Elmo 16:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

BEHOLD THE FLV PLAYER!
Hey Dragonfire!

I've uploaded the video player, it works perfectly. I'm just uploading a test vid - one that I think shows what many people think of americans as (even though it is unfair)

The video is off an australian comedy show (they like to poke fun at every country) so, don't take it too seriously.

Oh, and take a look at the player lol

It is located at http://members.iinet.com.au/~symode09/flv/stupidamericans.html

note how fast it loads... on a sluggish server!

--Symode09 16:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Also, if you hover over the video, the controlls will appear. It is pixelated because I stretched the video

--Symode09 16:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

blocking dynamic IPs
as Special:Block user says, dynamically allocated IP addresses shld not be blocked for long period, certainly not for a week, as the users who they get allotted to changes quickly. –Doldrums(talk) 17:27, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:20070219 1118236758001.jpg (Iran guy)
Please add anything you know about the copyright of. thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:16, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I added a message to the images talk page on commons. DragonFire1024 19:19, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thankyou. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:51, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Is there any reason why you uploaded it and called it Image:Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei,.jpg with a comma?--Mark Talk 19:51, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Typo :) DragonFire1024 20:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * K, we all make mistakes - some more than others though ;-)--Mark Talk 20:18, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

cool video
A more sorted thing of cool videos on commons is avalible at commons:Commons:Media of the day Bawolff ☺☻ 21:57, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Why were my edits reverted?
Hi Dragonfire1024. Why were my edits to http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Shooting_at_Virginia_Tech%3B_at_least_31_dead reverted? I used information from wikipedia with sources. Sifaka 20:30, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a news source...and also, refrence'sare not used on Wikinews. Also, Wikipedia is and will likely be using the same sources as we are. DragonFire1024 20:35, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * My sources came from news articles, not wikipedia. It was merely copied from Wikipedia, which is not copyrighted, since this article is lacking information about the said topics. I think my edits should be restored. Furthermore that article on wikipedia is not going to be up for speedy deletion at all. I am not sure how you came to that conclusion. Sifaka 20:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We do not copy and paste info from Wikipedia...if they have sources that are on Wikipedia that can be found on google news eetc...then we can use those sources. Wikipedia is not a news source. DragonFire1024 20:39, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you may have misunderstood. I used the actual news sources, not wikipedia as a source. I only copied what was on Wikipedia. User:Ycanneh said "please refrain (from copying wikipedia), it makes us look like a mirror." However, the information of Wikipedia concerning the description of the shooter is valid and ought to be in the article is some form or another because it has been discussed in multiple news outlets. Wikinews ought to be kept current with the latest information, after all it is news. Why should new information hit Wikipedia first and not be available here? I believe that the shooter's description is an important part of the unfolding story and one people will want to know. Sifaka 20:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It can be available here with proper news sources and edits NOT copied and pasted from Wikipedia. If you can find the info in separate sources, then it can be added. Sorry...not trying to be a hard-ass...but copying and pasting from WP and other news sources is not allowed. WP Info, if properly sourced on Wikinews, can be rewritten to fit into the article. DragonFire1024 20:53, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I put a paraphrased non copy of the info on the talk page of the article with sources. If you want to rewrite it, it's there. Sifaka 21:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Death numbers
Please see here where it clearly states 33 dead. If you accept this in confirmation i will move the page again. (Grr going to keep me busy on the double redir fixes ;-) --Mark Talk 21:29, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL ok...I just did not see a source...is that source in the article?? DragonFire1024 21:31, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yup was in the article with an old title but it forwaded to a new article. You have chaged it to the new title though.  God dont want to see the amount of moves and redirects this has racked up!!!--Mark Talk 21:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL sorry :) I won't change it anymore :) DragonFire1024 21:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Le Monde report on 9/11 knowledge
Hi. May I draw your attention to Talk:France knew of al-Qaeda hijack plans prior to 9/11? Tomos 06:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Video
Hi, did you get my e-mail re: "Wikinews Video Images and Audio"? --Nzgabriel | Talk 06:23, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for merging ... I tried but you are faster than me :) --Aphaia 20:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No Problem :) DragonFire1024 20:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Welcomes
Why do you send welcomes to users who are not yet registered? How do you know they are not vandals? See: (Welcomes). --SVTCobra 02:42, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I send welcomes to registerred users only and to anon users who test...Where do you get I was sending them to non-registered users? DragonFire1024 06:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Is this the "welcome" or the "test" message: User talk:71.103.67.189? --SVTCobra 20:38, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * So I made one mistake...su me...besides the user was already editing and I made the message the same time I warned them about posting rewards. DragonFire1024 20:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * One of these days you're going to welcome a WoW username that goes and does lots of vandalism. It is best to wait until newly registered users have made an edit that doesn't merit the test template or a vandalism warning. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

 * We have our welcome committee which is supposed to send new users welcome messages...we did this before...and i am just doing what we are supposed to do as the welcome committee. DragonFire1024 20:15, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I was advised - after starting like you're doing - not to welcome people with zero contributions because they are an unknown. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:17, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

can u go onto the IRC, thanks
 * Then why have a welcome committee? I have always done it like this...personally a welcome message shows them that we are already watching them and are aware of their account and the edits they may make right after creating the user name...IMO. DragonFire1024 20:19, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Symode09 05:48, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Actually, I've never understood the hesitantcy of welcoming users who havn't contrbiuted (weather it is useful or not is a debate for another time). If they are WoW, or some other vandal, so what. WoW is still going to vandalize regardless, the welcome message didn't hurt. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:04, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Dragon, you seem to putting the welcome (or some kind of subst welcome) on user talk pages for which there is no user. (User talk:Saikano). --SVTCobra 19:43, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well any welcome message I send to a new user...is from the User Creation Log. DragonFire1024 19:48, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Were they deleted already? All the ones in red have no user page and no contributions. --SVTCobra 19:50, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Users don't need to have a userpage or contributions to be a user...the creation log is those users who have made an account with Wikinews, but that does not mean they have done anything more than create an account. DragonFire1024 19:54, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes they do. All users have the "User contributions" botton on the bottom left side of the page. User:Saikano is a user as he does have the "User contributions" botton. If a user doesn't, they are not a user and cannot edit with their account; they simply created the page. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  20:17, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Symode
Hey dragonfire, because my mum's work buys the rights to republish ANY work written or bought by reuters, when say reuters receives images from NBC, see http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Admin_action_alerts for more—Symode09 09:43, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for the welcome. --Wpktsfs 20:03, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

reverting
the rollback button provided for administrators is meant to be used in case of obvious vandalism and disruption and shld'nt be used as a shortcut for reverting good faith edits. "Rollbacks should be used with caution and restraint, in part because they leave no explanation for the revert in the edit summary. Reverting a good-faith edit may therefore send the message that "I think your edit was no better than vandalism and doesn't deserve even the courtesy of an explanation." It is a slap in the face to a good-faith editor. If you use the rollback feature for anything other than vandalism or for reverting yourself, it's polite to leave an explanation on the article talk page, or on the talk page of the user whose edit(s) you reverted." (WP on rollback). –Doldrums(talk) 09:05, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

cut it out dragonfire
you remind me of messedrocker that couldn't get used to those buttons you have -Edbrown05 06:50, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok...I will unblock him and everyone else who wants to act like that...So how about WoW? The user was left messages...he/she was warned...it merited a block and we don't need trolls mongering around on Wikinews. DragonFire1024 06:54, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If I have it right, you are calling me a troll. -Edbrown05 06:57, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No...you have it wrong :-) The user I blocked is the troll. We just cannot let all of the users like that anonymous one do that...if we let one do it, then others will follow and get away with it... DragonFire1024 06:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, the IP you blocked is me. I know I run up against "standard thinking". Therefore I am glad you blocked me, it only re-enforces the point, whatever that was since you wiped it out (cleanly and completely you censorship SOB). Have a nice day, or night :) -Edbrown05 07:10, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * So ED...using anon IPS to evade a block? I could as well block you for that But I won't as I am now considering myself to be in a dispute with you. What you did was deceiving and evading block. It actually goes more to show what some users will do to evade blocks and cause trouble. Why act in a manner that IMO does not reflect your age? DragonFire1024 07:46, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Earthlike...
How is that a better image? It is tiny and subject to all kinds of restrictions. I will revert to the previous image in 15 minutes if you do not reply. --SVTCobra 03:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * One: The image listed previously is on commons with no sources, and is not "free" to use on commons as the ESO's image policy states. I know its small, but unless those images can be sourced on Commons they will be deleted, and I have informed them of it. WHo are we to know who created tose images.

 * Also, none of the observations of this planet were made by NASA. In fact, NASA had nothing to do with this discovery. Those images are also falsely representing the license. DragonFire1024 03:22, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Yeah, well I just go by Commons. I don't use anything that's not on Commons and I'll use anything on Commons (as long as it's not already tagged) and as long as it is on there it is not Wikinews' problem, it's Commons' problem.
 * But the fact that NASA didn't discover or have anything to do with the discovery is totally irrelevant to the discussion of images (all of which are artists impressions since it is so far away).
 * Moving on... How do you know that that little picture is ok by ESO standards? Their statement is about 300dpi and above images. Shouldn't you find the image on ESO.org instead of space.com? You're adding an extra level of implied trust in space.com that they didn't alter or do anything to violate ESO's copyright. I'd rather trust Commons, there are lots of dillegent people who will take down copyrighted material as it is discovered. With your upload, I not sure if enough qualified people will review it. (I am certainly not qualified)
 * --SVTCobra 03:59, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Space.com only uses images from 3rd party sites unless otherwise noted. Those Commons images had over a to be reviewed. They were uploaded in 2006. DragonFire1024 04:02, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hopefully the free one's copyright will be sorted out soon, as i too like commons better. However at the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if the commons image was deleted rather soon by those diligent people. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:25, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The commons images have been up since 2006. DragonFire1024 04:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes i know. However it will be a candidate for speedy deletion in two weeks. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, but how did you know that the Commons image is not properly licensed? Are there tell-tale signs? I would like to know for future reference. Also, if you are aware that the image on Commons is a copy-vio, aren't you obligated in some why to tag it as such over there? --SVTCobra 13:29, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

New redirect from move
I think it's safe to delete the US Deputy Secretary of State Randall L. Tobias resigns redirect created by the move. Anybody who comes across it would find it to be a bit misleading. —Zachary talk 05:08, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

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US State Department accuses Iran of being top state sponsor of terrorism

May 1, 2007 In the latest report published by the United States State Department, it accuses Iran of being the top state sponsor of terrorism. The report contrasts Al-Qaeda's interest in "global jihad" against the interests which Iran is said to be sponsoring. Iran's focus is explained as Israel, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

The report describes Iran's interest in Israel as, "encouraging anti-Israeli terrorist activity, rhetorically, operationally, and financially." Supreme Leader Khamenei and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are accused of lauding terrorist attacks carried out by anti-Zionist groups. The report notes that Iran's support for organisations involved in the Israel-Palestine conflict is not limited to Shia groups such as Hezbollah; Hamas and others are, like most Palestinians, Sunni muslims.

Second, Iran is accused of playing a "destabilizing role in Iraq." In particular, Iran's providing of IED to rejectionist groups in Iraq were mentioned in the State Department report. The report also indicates that Iraq is "not currently a terrorist safe haven" but can become a "potential safe haven" for them. Iranian officials deny that they are supplying weapons to Iraqi insurgent groups.

Third, Iran is said have aided the Taliban militarily according to General Peter Pace and other U.S. officials. In Afghanistan, Iran gainsays a military role; it only acknowledges that it has helped with the reconstruction and revival of the Afghan economy.

The Islamic Revolutionary Guards and Iran's intelligence ministry were specifically named in the coordination of the activities of the Iranian government abroad.

This statements of this State Department report are not novel. In fact, in 2006, U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said, "The Iranian regime is today the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism."

Many Iranian officials accuse the United States of terrorism and a raft of crimes in return and "Death to America" chants are a regular scene at Friday prayers throughout Iran.

Ayatollah Ebrahim Amini, the 2nd deputy chair of the Assembly of Experts has, for instance, said,How do they allow themselves to commit so many crimes? Is this the same democracy that Bush, Blair, and Sharon want to bring the Iraqi people as a gift? Death to this democracy. Is this how you want to present this democracy to the world? Shame on this democracy. Are you humans? Animals? What are you?...Why do they commit so many crimes? Stop it. Enough with the treachery. Enough with the crimes.

Other countries on the state sponsors of terrorism list were Cuba, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria.


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Worldwide student competition brings WTO debate battle to Geneva

May 1, 2007

The final round of the ELSA Moot Court Competition on WTO Law is taking place in Geneva this week. Eighteen teams from Europe, North America, Latin America and Asia-Pacific have made it to the finals to contest one of the key issues underpinning WTO trade negotiations – commitment to public health.

The 2001 WTO Doha Declaration on TRIPS and Public Health was a vital step in increasing access to medicines in health emergencies. It permits governments to temporarily set aside patents on specific medicines to protect the health of their people.

Many of the key arguments of the WTO negotiations on this matter as well as the issues surrounding free trade agreements (FTAs) between WTO members will be used by the students as they debate the issues at hand. Students will play out a dispute between two WTO members – one setting aside a pharmaceutical patent, the other challenging this on behalf of its industry – in front of a distinguished panel of judges, including many WTO luminaries.

Giorgio Sacerdoti, Chairman, WTO Appellate Body, said: "The WTO dispute settlement system fulfills at least two important systemic functions in today world society: (1) "ensure the respect of treaty based rights and obligations in a multilateral setting by providing the speedy resolution of disputes in an impartial way, based on the rule of law", (2) "by collective monitoring ensure implementation of those decisions". Lawyers are called to play an increasing role in this mechanism. ELSA has to be commended for preparing students to this challenge and opportunity on a worldwide basis."


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Talk:US State Department accuses Iran of being top state sponsor of terrorism

NPOV
This is totally one sided POV of the U.S....blantantly one sided...and I am in the US. DragonFire1024 08:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * This is why I put "US:" in the article name.--Blivit 08:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * But because of our NPOV policy, we cannot have a onesided view. DragonFire1024 08:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

 * It is a news story about U.S. allegations. You are welcome to add to it.  In fact, I gave Iran's view as well when I added, "Iran sees its support for anti-Israeli groups as aid to resistance movements and not as support for terrorism" to the article.--Blivit 08:35, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree with Blivit on this, the title makes it clear, that this is what the US is saying, that is allowed. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 08:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Big deal...one sentence...its still POV of the US and an Iranian response to this allegation needs to be added. As of now its nothing but a simple POV. DragonFire1024 08:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I added Questioning Iran's Role in Iraq Insurgency.--Blivit 08:56, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I stated my concerns...and its still one sided...but whatever. DragonFire1024 09:15, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

"According to the latest report of the State Department" may give the State Department too much cridibility. The phrase "Third, Iran is said not have aided the Taliban militarily" seems confusing. Also Iran, Sudan, and Syria do "sponcer terrorism" but it'd be really nice to point out that Cuba and North Korea don't, if anyone can find something. It might also be nice to point out that Al Qaeda is Sunni and has nothing to do with Iran, which is Shia. Nyarlathotep 09:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Saad bin Laden is in Iranian custody.--Blivit 09:35, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * As far as I am concerned, this article reads like Iran is responsible for all of the terrorism problems we have in the world. Re-tagging. Please conform to NPOV. DragonFire1024 09:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Apparently, Ayatollah Ebrahim Amini's statement and the "Death to America" have escaped your notice.--Blivit 09:42, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Sunni groups
On top of Palestinian groups, consider this: Omar al-Bashir, Yahya Jammeh, Bashar al-Assad, Ismail Omar Guelleh, & many Egyptians like Chairman of the Union of Arab Lawyers Sameh 'Ashour are Sunni supporters of Iran. Qaddafi is also a highly pro-Iranian Sunni.--Blivit 09:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Iranian response
I added the Iranian response.--Blivit 09:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Worldwide student competition brings WTO debate battle to Geneva

I have tried to improve the article as much as I could: - shortened it - made it more neutral - only saying that the event is taking place and one quote from the WTO Appellate Body which this competition is trying to simulate - added some sources - deleted external links as I found Wikipedia pages for the organisers I do hope this is better now. Please let me know if there can be more improvements done. I will accept all comments. Thanks! Mogmaria 13:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It is getting better, but you need to write in your own words. I read the opening paragraph and found several phrases that were copied from the first source.
 * Secondly, the dateline use. Are you currently in Geneva?  If not, you can't use this - sorry! --Brian McNeil / talk 14:06, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'm not going to add publish, but I'll not stop someone else doing so - see what you get as a second opinion. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:07, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

NPOV tag
Please add specific paragraphs or things that you dispute on the talk page, don't just slap the tag on, harder to see if it has improved since.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:11, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Improvements
editprotected Van der Hoorn (talk) 15:48, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * "fulfils" => If the quote is correct [sic] should be added, if it is incorrect, it should be "fulfills"
 * The "all costs, no benefits" source has a new location, namely here
 * The latter two sources have the same URL. The second is wrong and should be this one

 * ✅ ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 19:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


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Reports: Leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq killed

May 1, 2007

Reports say that Abu Ayyub al-Masri, the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq has been killed by Sunni tribesmen in an area just north of Baghdad called Taji during a battle between tribesmen and al-Qaeda militants. Other reports say that he was killed in al-Nibayi, near a bridge where fighting was taking place.

"Preliminary reports said he was killed yesterday in Taji area in a battle involving a couple of insurgent groups, possibly some tribal people who have problems with al-Qaeda. We too have security and intelligence reports that Abu Ayyub al-Masri was killed as a result of fighting between insurgents and al Qaeda yesterday near Taji. These reports have to be confirmed," said Barham Sale, Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister.

However; despite the reports, the Islamic State of Iraq denied that al-Masri was dead posting a message on a militant website saying, "The Islamic State of Iraq reassures the Ummah on the safety of Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Muhajir, may God protect him, and that he is still fighting the enemies of God."

According to Ali al-Dabbagh, an Iraqi government spokeman, DNA tests will be performed on the alleged remains.

"We will make an official announcement when we confirm that this person is Abu Ayyub al-Masri. DNA tests should be done and we have to bring someone to identify the body. The Iraqi government will work to identify him," said al-Dabbagh.

However; the United States military has not yet confirmed the reports.

"We are in discussions with the Iraqis over how they obtained this intelligence. If we do have a body, we are going to conduct DNA tests, and that will take several days. If there is no body, that makes it harder. Obviously I hope it's true. We want to be very careful before we confirm or deny anything like that," said Lt. Col. Christopher Garver, a spokesman for the U.S. military in Iraq.

Iraqi and U.S. military forces were not involved in the battle.


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UFO
i am surprised this occurred after a major UFO event, and the impeachment against cheney...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm (:O) -Nima Baghaei talk · cont · email 13:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * What UFO? DragonFire1024 13:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

 * happened couple days ago (:O) -Nima Baghaei talk · cont · email 13:23, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Link to an article? DragonFire1024 13:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

(:O) -Nima Baghaei talk · cont · email 13:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Pilots spot 'UFOs' near the Channel Islands
 * Democrat submits resolution to impeach Cheney

good riddance to bad rubbish! Symode09 13:53, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


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UFO
were blowing up extraterrestrial civilizations in other galaxies, and killing kids in iraq, and the only thing they can say is Iran is a terrorist? haha what a laugh (:O) -Nima Baghaei talk · cont · email 13:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Blowing up extraterrestrial civilizations in other galaxies? --SVTCobra 15:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

 * yup (:O) -Nima Baghaei talk · cont · email 16:00, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Internet Radio Equality Act proposed

SoundExchange
Does SoundExchange make a judgement as to who does and doesn't deserve to get paid? The article make it sound like that. --SVTCobra 15:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


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User:Brian McNeil/tor

List of tor exit nodes from http://proxy.org/tor.shtml, should be blocked by default as an attractive nuisance.

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this is nonsense, Iran should be developing Free Energy and zero-point energy devices instead of nuclear power... (:O) -Nima Baghaei talk · cont · email 16:01, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


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Turkey's Constitutional Court invalidates first round in presidential elections

May 1, 2007

Turkey's has annulled the first round of voting in the, ruling that there were not enough members present at the parliamentary vote for it to be valid. The court ruled 9-2 in favor of the challenge.

Opposition parties, who boycotted the vote, challenged the result in court on the grounds that the were not enough MPs in attendance to achieve which is set at two-thirds of the 550 member. The government argued that only one-third or 184 MPs were needed for quorum.

In Friday's vote, got 357 votes. The governing party, (AKP) has 363 of the 550 seats in parliament. The main opposition party, (CHP), holds 178 seats. Independents hold the remaining 9 seats.

Government spokesperson said the government will seek to have the required 367 MPs in attendance for a new vote on Wednesday. If the age limit for MPs is lowered to 25 from the current 30, the government is ready to call early parliamentary elections. Early polls have been sought by the opposition and business interests.


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 * Yes I intend to at some point... Brian inspired me pretty much. Majorly (talk) 23:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep me posted, would love to be of assistance. Cirt (talk) 02:22, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Keep at it
As you commented at some point in IRC, it is easier to write articles here than Wikipedia. Since you seem to be the only new recruit (so far) resulting from Wikimania I personally want to see you stay involved. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:52, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's also a lot more rewarding. I shall of course be staying, hopefully for the long term. Majorly (talk) 22:15, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Good. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:17, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you have any tips for improving my articles so far? Majorly (talk) 22:22, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Categories. Always look for a main country category and a topical category - eg Culture and entertainment. Titles, remember the audience is international so not everyone knows who Cameron is, explicitly saying the article refers to the UK is advisable. Wikilinks. Almost all countries have local wikilinks. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:42, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

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Go on when you get the chance. Milk's Favorite Cookie (talk) 17:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

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re-voting
I thought they will have to do the general elections now that the presidency elections were unsuccessful?
 * No, they will try another parliamentary vote on Wednesday. The AKP will probably try to woo some of the independents. If the opposition boycott seems to continue to work, then they may be forced to call a general election. But not quite yet. --SVTCobra 19:16, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, whaddyaknow, they called a general election today.--SVTCobra 19:39, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


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Dell to offer Ubuntu Linux on some computers

May 2, 2007

Dell Inc. (Dell) announced Tuesday that, due to public demand, they will be offering an alternative to Microsoft Windows on a selection of their desktop and laptop computers. Dell will partner with Canonical Ltd. to pre-install the recently released Ubuntu 7.04 distribution of the Linux operating system.

Until recently, Linux distributions have not been adopted by mainstream computer makers due to concerns over ease-of-use. Newer distributions, such as Ubuntu 7.04, have become much more user-friendly, with features such as automatic updates and software installation.

Ubuntu director of business development Chris Kenyon told the BBC that one of the reasons Ubuntu was selected was its support features and hardware compatibility. "Dell are going to work with us to make sure Ubuntu works fully on its hardware," said Kenyon. A Dell representative suggested that the Ubuntu distribution was chosen due to public demand as expressed on a Dell-run forum website, IdeaStorm. "It was overwhelming, the response we got to the survey," said Jeremy Bolen, a Dell spokesman.

Tuesday's announcement was not the first for Dell's Linux offerings. They have offered servers and workstations with an optional enterprise version of Red Hat Linux for some time now. The chairman and CEO of Dell, Michael Dell, is reported to have Ubuntu installed on his own laptop.

Perry Donham, an analyst with Aberdeen Group of Boston, suggested that the Dell-Ubuntu partnership will benefit Ubuntu more than it will Dell. "It's going to be a small part of [Dell's] market," said Donham. "But it's a great win for Ubuntu and for Linux in general."

Dell indicated that the Ubuntu-based computers would be available in the next few weeks, from Dell USA only for the time being. The pricing structure has not been revealed, or when such computers would be available in countries other than the United States.


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Rosslyn Chapel music score 'decoded'

May 2, 2007

Carvings on the 600 hundred year old Rosslyn Chapel in Scotland represent a coded form of a musical score, the father-and-son team of Tommy J. Mitchell, 75 and Stuart Mitchell, 41, say.

"[The] Rosslyn Chapel holds a musical mystery in its architecture and design. At one end of the chapel, on the ceiling are 4 cross-sections of arches containing elaborate symbolic designs on each array of cubes (in actual fact they are rectangles mostly). The 'cubes' are attached to the arches in a musically sequential way. And to confirm this, at the ends of each arch there is an angel playing a musical instrument of a different kind. After 27 years of study and research by [Stuart's father Thomas J. Mitchell], we believe he has found the pitches and tonality that match the symbols on each cube, revealing its melodic and harmonic progressions," said T. Mitchell on a statement posted on his website.

The musical score has been "frozen" in the chapel for 600 years. Inside the chapel, there are 13 angels T. Mitchell calls the "orchestra of angels," which are carved into the chapel's arches and who appear to be musicians.

Surrounding the angels are 213 geometric symbols that were found to resemble sound waves at different pitches. After decoding all the symbols to match the soundwaves, they found the song which researchers say is part of the "cymatics" music system, also known as the "Chladni patterns" which is the study of wave phenomena associated with the physical patterns produced through the interaction of sound waves in a medium.

"It is what we could call 'frozen music', a little like cryogenics. The music has been frozen in time by symbolism, it was only a matter of time before the symbolism began to 'thaw out' and begin to make sense to scientific and musical perception," said T. Mitchell.

Mitchell describes the song as sounding like a celtic melody or a nursery rhyme.

"The unusual combination of instruments, their dynamics, tunings and textures re-create a sound long forgotten from the past. The melodies are simple but harmonically develops and unfolds in the most simplistic but charming way. The sequential arrangement of the cubes at many times is a series of repeated notes/symbols signifying a more functional than aesthetic sense to the music. Sometimes it sounds a bit like a 'nursery rhyme' and there is also a feeling of a 'Celtic air' about the music," added Mitchell's statement.

The Mitchells have added words from a contemporary hymn to the music and have named the composition The Rosslyn Motet, which is performed by the Tallis Chamber Choir and produced by Stuart Mitchell.

It is currently available on CD and is opening in a world premier concert on May 18 which will be performed inside the Rosslyn Chapel.

The chapel has seen a rise in visitors, tourists, and researchers since it was featured in the book and movie The Da Vinci Code.

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INCREDIBLE
I must say, this is just amazing, incredible and whatever else. Probably the most beautiful music I ever heard. DragonFire1024 03:55, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


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US President Bush vetos spending bill
Tuesday United States President George W. Bush vetoed a US$124 billion supplemental appropriations bill that would provide funding for US operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. The bill set benchmarks for the Iraqi government to reach and also included a time-table for withdrawal from Iraq, if those benchmarks were not met.

"It makes no sense to tell the enemy when you plan to start withdrawing. All the terrorists would have to do is mark their calendars. ... Setting a deadline for withdrawal is setting a date for failure, and that would be irresponsible," Bush said.

The bill allows the US to maintain forces in Iraq even after a withdrawal to target al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups.

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Estonia closes consulate in Russia
Estonia has closed its consulate in Moscow, Russia, after riots erupted outside. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs alleged that an attempt was made to assault the ambassador at a press conference and that this amounts to violation of diplomatic conventions.

The riots were in protest of Estonia's decision to relocate the Bronze Soldier of Tallinn, a Soviet-era war memorial. Estonians feel the statue is a reminder of Soviet occupation, while Russians say it is a tribute to the soldiers that defeated Nazi Germany.

Meanwhile, Russia has halted deliveries of oil and coal products to Estonia.

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Former Iranian nuclear envoy arrested
State-run news agencies in Iran stated that Hossein Mousavian, a former envoy on Iran's nuclear program who worked for Hassan Rowhani, has been apprehended in Tehran. Mousavian was a key ally of Ayatollah Hashemi Rafsanjani. Mousavian is likely to be charged with espionage. An anonymous Iranian news agency official said, "Mousavian was arrested because of connections and exchange of information with foreign elements."

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Delta emerges from Chapter 11 bankruptcy

May 2, 2007

Delta Air Lines emerged from Monday, following a 19-month restructuring that left it with 6,000 fewer employees, US$3 billion less in annual costs, and a different mix of international and domestic routes.

While cutting back on domestic service, Delta has expanded into "over 60 new international routes," according to its website. It is not known exactly what domestic service was cut or by how much to achieve the cost savings that allowed it to expand internationally.

Delta has faced pressure from low-fare airlines domestically and is hoping to benefit from the higher profit margins on international flights, which have not yet felt the same competitive pressure.

To reflect the airline's new international focus, Delta unveiled a new logo Monday, with an updated Web site launched the following day. They are also in the process of re-painting their airplanes with a new livery, a process that could take up to four years.

As of Monday Delta's shares were trading on a "when issued" basis at just above $20, giving it a market value of over US$8 billion, second only to Southwest Airlines among United States carriers. Shares are expected to begin trading Thursday, May 3.


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Is it really so essential to this story that fair-use has be claimed on a copyrighted image? --SVTCobra 06:18, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No...but the page/source is obviously set up for publicity reasons. DragonFire1024 06:21, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * So is this but I wouldn't use as a source about article about interest rates. All advertisements are for publicity reasons. --SVTCobra 13:05, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

desiphered?
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Free to air digital TV switched on in New Zealand

May 2, 2007

New Zealand's new digital free to air television platform, Freeview was 'switched on' today at the Auckland Museum by the Government. This is the beginning of digital, and within 10 years, analogue transmission will be switched off for good.

Broadcasting minister, Steve Maharey said that it may take time for people to be persuaded to change to Freeview, but says changing to it is necessary. He describes Freeview as the path to a digital nirvana.

Broadcasting spokesperson for National Dr Jonathan Coleman says that the Government was told that, for Freeview to work, quality content was needed, otherwise people wouldn't see a need to change.

Before the launch of Freeview, the only way New Zealanders could watch digital TV was to subscribe to the only pay TV operator, SKY Network Television.

Viewers who have bought the required NZ$300 set top box can only watch TV ONE, TV2, TV3, C4, and Māori Television. Radio New Zealand National and Radio New Zealand Concert are also available on Freeview to listen to. The most notable exception from the current line up of channels is SKY's free to air channel, Prime.

There is a possibility for an extra 13 channels to be added at a later date.

State broadcaster, Television New Zealand (TVNZ), who owns TV One and TV2, announced earlier that they will be launching two new channels. One will carry family, arts and entertainment type programmes and the other will be a news and current affairs channel. The former will be launched later this year, and the latter being launched next year. As well as the $25 million the Government has already contributed to Freeview, TVNZ's new channels will be given $79 million over five years.

Various local broadcasters are also worried how they will survive when the analouge transmission is turned off. The Regional TV Broadcasters Association Chairman Jim Blackman has estimated the cost for regional broadcasters to be up to $1 million annually. He says the Government needs to help these broadcasters for them survive.

"Every New Zealander can now receive digital television with no monthly fees and no contracts. They simply purchase a Freeview satellite set top box, and if they need one, install a dish, and their favourite television programmes are free," Freeview General Manager, Steve Browning said. Freeview terrestrial transmission will start sometime next year.

Controversy has been thrown up recently that Sky has told its contractors not to help install set top boxes for Freeview. SKY refused to comment to Radio New Zealand about this.

Mr Browning said that the launch is as significant as the launch of colour television was 30 years ago.


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Private helicopter crashes in UK

May 2, 2007

Police earlier released a statement reporting that a private helicopter carrying several people had vanished following the Champions League football semi-final between Liverpool and Chelsea at Anfield stadium.

The helicopter left Liverpool's John Lennon Airport on Tuesday night at around 11pm, and was heading for a private landing site near Peterborough, Cambridgeshire when it vanished. It is believed to have left radar screens at around 12.30am.

A police spokeswoman said: "Details are sketchy at the moment. The helicopter, we believe, had about four or five people on board and was a twin-engine Twin Squirrel.  It left John Lennon Airport in Liverpool at about 11pm and was on its way to a private address near Peterborough.  It appears to have disappeared off the radar. At the moment we are trying to find out more. The best case scenario is that it has made an emergency landing somewhere."

The wreckage of the helicopter was found in woodlands near Wansford, in Cambridgeshire. The pilot has been named as Stephen Holdich, co-owner of operating company Atlas Helicopters.

Also on board were Jonathan Waller and Phillip Carter, as well as other people yet to be named. It is believed one of the others on board was Mr Carter's teenage son, Andrew. It has been released that the people found on board are deceased.

In 1996 Chelsea vice chairman Matthew Harding was killed when his helicopter, also a Twin Squirrel, crashed while returning from a match against Bolton Wanderers.

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Comments:Digg.com suffers user revolt

this makes me so happy
that people will get scrappy for free content, but I wonder if people will be satisfied with what the free content communities have to offer

Good for the diggers!
6F 9C 9E 65 76 43 4C FF

That's a number, in hex. What a small number of people who're posting a similar number all over digg are trying to do is give people back the freedom to do what they like with their own copies of movies.

DRM, which the protection scheme is a variety of, only works when you don't control the hardware. The leak of this number was inevitable, as all you needed to do was leave a player in the bedroom of a curious teenager for a few weeks. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:43, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
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