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Both of these briefs are single source. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:14, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

I added another source to my entry, but couldn't find any others for the second. Do you know of anywhere else to search for info on it? Jstaryuk 20:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

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editprotected The image File:Crime scene.JPG is being used to illustrate this article. It is presented without context, giving the impression it is directly related to the section "Woman missing in California Bay Area". Either it needs a caption explaining it's an example of a crime scene (the file was uploaded in January 2006) or, preferably given the tenuous link, it should be removed. Nev1 (talk) 23:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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Two light aircraft in mid-air collision near East Midlands Airport

December 16, 2007

Two people are believed to have been killed when two light aircraft collided in mid-air, near East Midlands Airport in Leicestershire, United Kingdom. One of the aircraft crashed while making an emergency landing at the airport after suffering damage to its landing gear. The second has crashed near Blithfield Reservoir in Staffordshire, approximately 25 miles west of the airport.

An eyewitness at the airport saw a plane crash and roll onto its side while making an emergency landing with two or three wheels missing, but all aboard that plane are believed to have survived without serious injury. The pilot of the plane later reported that he hit something, but didn't know what, and that he saw burning debris below him.

Leicestershire police say that they believe that there are fatalities at the second site. Emergency services say there were two people on board, and that they fear that they will not have survived the accident. Farmer Michael Sargeant, who owns the farm where the second plane crashed said that he saw that the plane was already "almost burned out" when he arrived at the scene.

The airport was closed, with all flights to the airport being diverted to Birmingham, and Manchester. The airport has subsequently re-opened.

The airport have asked passengers with enquiries to contact the airport on 0871 919 9000 (from within the UK) or their tour operator.

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Russian Wikipedia goes on strike against Internet censorship in Russia
Can you give a double-check on the edits I made to the quote from the RU.wikimedia community statement? I need someone to verify I've not made it incorrect, but simply corrected grammar. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:11, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

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Comments from feedback form - "Sum what good"
Sum what good —99.226.192.73 (talk) 22:21, 16 June 2010 (UTC)


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Talk:Tropical Storm Olga causes many deaths in Caribbean

Both the Links are for the same article --User:Anonymous101 17:57, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ Good observation, Anonymous101. I swapped out the dup Reuters for an AP. Cheers, Jcart1534 18:11, 16 December 2007 (UTC)


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American singer Dan Fogelberg dies at age 56

December 16, 2007 Dan Fogelberg, the singer/songwriter whose hits included Longer, Leader of the Band, and Power of Gold has died today at the age of 56. The cause of death was announced as prostate cancer.

Fogelberg was born Daniel Grayling Fogelberg on August 13, 1951 in Peoria, Illinois, USA. He recorded other hits like Make Love Stay, which hit number-one on the Adult contemporary charts.

A note on Fogelberg's web site announced his passing. "Dan left us this morning at 6:00 a.m. He fought a brave battle with cancer and died peacefully at home in Maine with his wife Jean at his side," said the note. "His strength, dignity and grace in the face of the daunting challenges of this disease were an inspiration to all who knew him."

Fogelberg is survived by his wife Jean and brothers Marc and Peter.


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Taken from Dan Fogelberg official site. No free alternative available. Low res version to be used in obit. article only.

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Wikinews Shorts: December 17, 2007

Clinton, Obama and McCain get major endorsements
The Des Moines Register, an Iowa newspaper, gave Hillary Clinton a key endorsement Sunday; and on the Republican side, John McCain was endorsed. Another paper, the Boston Globe, also went with McCain, and Obama on the Democratic side.

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Electronic voting in faces security issues
A just-published, two-month study conducted in Ohio on behest of Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, sharply criticized many of the state's voting machines. The report said that "the computer-based voting systems in use in Ohio do not meet computer industry security standards."

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Hi, please do not place any kind of on our website - it will be  so no-one will ever see it. If you do want to contribute to Wikinews, see the introduction. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

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Hello there. It seems you already got the hello and then weirdness happened (special:undelete/User talk:Ned Scott is an intresting read :), but I wanted to give you an official wikinews greeting again just to make sure. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:58, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Africans win the 2007 ING Taipei International Marathon

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A damn larger match than past year. I used photos to describe this match, and the after-race conference, I also participated because I tried to interview shortly with English. In fact, I went there near 4:00 am at this race for preparations. Brock contact... 07:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


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Comments:Saturn's rings are much older than previously thought

That means that you could take a ride on a piece of a Saturn ring.

How is that possible?
How can Saturn's rings be 5 billion years old when the Earth is only 4.6 billion years old (approximately)? PurplePerson


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Climate Conference in Bali concluded; opinions on outcome differ

December 17, 2007 The climate conference that was held for the last two weeks in Bali came to a conclusion on Saturday. Agreement was reached on the so called Bali roadmap, but opinions differed on the substance of this and other documents that were decided upon.

The Roadmap establishes the target year of 2009 and the scope for a post-2012 climate change agreement. This agreement is expected to include the setting, for industrialized nations, of reduction targets for greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions, amongst other things.

While the EU had wished for the inclusion of a guideline range of 25-40% for GHG emission cuts by industrialized nations by 2020, this had been opposed by the US and others, and so was not included in the final "roadmap" which addresses all nations that are part of the (UNFCCC). The range was however included in the preamble of the document agreed on by the members of the Kyoto Protocol.

Bali Roadmap breakdown
The "Bali Roadmap" document can be seen as having three distinct sections:

The first is the preamble, which is non binding and is there to put the following decisions in context. This is where the guideline emissions cut range would have been. Still included is a reference to the latest report by the international body of scientists that is charged with assessing the current state of knowledge on climate change. This Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) had presented its Synthesis report earlier this year. It also recognizes that "deep cuts in global emission will be required" to avoid dangerous climate change.

The second part is composed of a section calling for a "shared vision for long-term cooperative action, including a long-term global goal for emission reductions" and then goes on with a description of the four "building blocks" envisioned for tackling climate change. These are:
 * mitigation
 * adaptation
 * technology development and transfer
 * and financing

The third and last part is the technical part of the document, with a proposed timetable for meetings and similar procedural matters being included.

Current matters
But it was not just the future that was talked about. There was also consensus on a number of current issues, such as the setting up of an expanded adaptation fund, and the necessity of accelerating the transfer and development of "climate friendly" technology.

Opinions
Perspectives on the outcome varied, with some non governmental organizations (NGOs) like Greenpeace International being generally happy that an agreement was achieved, but stating that a stronger mandate for the post 2012 negotiations had been wished for, and that current issues were not all addressed satisfactorily either.

The UN secretary general Ban Ki-moon on the other hand welcomed the outcome of the conference, stating that all of his three benchmarks for success had been reached. He went on to say that he "believes that the Bali Roadmap that has been agreed is a pivotal first step toward an agreement that can address the threat of climate change, the defining challenge of our time."

The EU also welcomed the agreement that was reached, with Commission President noting that "We have worked hard to achieve this result. It is a very important step forward." Both he and, European Commissioner for Environment, made it clear that Bali had only been the start of what needed to be done, with the later stating that "Now the real hard work must begin. It is essential that the agreement to be worked out over the next two years is ambitious enough to prevent global warming from reaching dangerous levels.”


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I was thinking of doing a summarizing article. So most important I think would be to roughly state what has come out of the talks, perhaps quoting some of some the documents language. This could be broadened into summing up what happened over the week, but I don't actually see me doing that.

The other important thing would be to present opinions on the outcome. I'm only going to do a brief sketch, say one, two NGOs, maybe Yvo or the EU, maybe a G77 nation, so it can certainly be fleshed out by others (as I'm relying on press briefings for this, just as everybody else can). Sean Heron 09:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

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Well, I was there through pretty much all of the closing sessions (although I have to admit I wasn't paying to close attention at times, e.g. when they were talking about people being voted on boards). Sean Heron 09:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC) Oh, I also have the draft decision (named "Ad Hoc Working Group on Long-term Cooperative Action under the Convention" that was agreed on with minimal changes (which I am consious of) here with me in print. Sean Heron 14:48, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


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Comments:American singer Dan Fogelberg dies at age 56

Yes, it is always depressing when somebody dies, but, to me, this is a reminder to myself and hopefully to others to get regular prostate exams.

I was personally touched by his music, and so was my family; he will be missed dearly.


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Flight attendant Todd Herzog wins $1 million on 'Survivor: China'

December 17, 2007

Todd Herzog, a flight attendant from Pleasant Grove, Utah, has won the US$1,000,000 grand prize on the CBS American reality television series Survivor: China. Herzog, 22, defeated New York City waitress Courtney Yates and former Miss Montana USA Amanda Kimmel in the final vote.

Herzog was voted 'Sole Survivor' by four of the seven jury members, while Yates received two votes and Kimmel received one. He was described as being the smartest and most strategic of the final three contestants. When making his opening statement to the jury, he said, "The main thing I can ask tonight is that you are able to see the difference between my strategic game and the relations that I actually built with you because they were all real."

Herzog, who was only 14 years old when the first season of Survivor premiered, was once the founder of his school's Survivor club and was voted by his graduating class as "Most likely to appear on Survivor."

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Russia makes first nuclear fuel shipments to Iran

December 18, 2007

Russia has made delivery of its first shipment of nuclear fuel to Iran's Bushehr facility, which is also being built by Russia. Both the Kremlin and the White House say that this should allow Iran to shut down its controversial uranium enrichment program.

The Russian company, Atomstroiexport, said that the shipments began on Sunday. It was also confirmed by Gholam Reza Aghazadeh, the head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran.

"If the Russians are willing to do that, which I support, then the Iranians do not need to learn how to enrich," United States President George W. Bush said on Monday during a visit to Virginia. "If the Iranians accept that uranium for a civilian nuclear power plant, then there's no need for them to learn how to enrich."

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia said in a statement: "We believe that qualitatively new conditions have been created which will allow Iran to take the steps which are demanded of it ... for the restoration of trust in the peaceful nature of the Iranian nuclear program."

Russia says that Bushehr is being built under the supervision of the International Atomic Energy Agency, thus preventing it from being used for military purposes.

A senior Iranian official told Reuters that Iran will not stop enrichment under any circumstances, because it needs the nuclear fuel for other plants.


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Comments:Meteorite blamed for mysterious illness in Peru

Perterbed by this, I feel these people would know if they saw a meteorite smash into the ground outside thier village. Scientists who werent there, nor have they gone there to see, simply say naa, must be wrong I think they would know.

" Is it really a meteor?: "or another way of alleviating the population in peru"
as far as the investiagtor said that it was a meteor,though some thought that it was not.well my opinion is, i dont think that it was a meteor thaT blasted at peru.how could a space object had that impact to spread such scenerio like that and that and can create diseases which resulted of vomitting.nausea and etc, to those people who lived there?...i guess its one way of those groups or organization who wants to have social change or world change.that event presented and happened in a systematic and very well scientifically made.that blast was not just a coincidence rather i percieved it as an intented phenomena.people behind that unhumanly plan is for sure got they're achievement.furthermore as stated in the report of the other investigator.there had been wastes that found out.that statement alone vouched that it was intented that, that waste will be thrown on that place...to wrap up..that event will be viewed as one of the hollywood movies.....it was scripted! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.53.227.94 (talk) 10:40, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


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Data for 3 million UK driving candidates lost

December 17, 2007

Some personal details of 3 million British learner drivers who had applied for the 'theory test' component of their Driving licence have been lost in Iowa, in the USA.

The data was lost on a hard drive that was owned by Pearson Driving Assessments Ltd, a private contractor to the UK driving standards agency.

Details were given by the UK Transport Secretary, Ruth Kelly, in the House of Commons at 1730 UTC yesterday. It is the first major loss of data in the UK since information on 25 million people was lost by HM Revenue in October.

In her statement to MPs, Ruth Kelly confirmed that no banking information was contained within the lost data, nor were individuals' dates of birth. She highlighted that security measures had been taken, and that the information that had been stored was not in a format "readily usable or accessible" by standard means.

Political figures in the UK continue to raise concerns about both the specific loss of this information, and the nature of governments ability to safely gather and maintain information. Susan Kramer, representing the Liberal Democrats stated "This constant attempt to gather data, to get more data, to know more about you, to link it more together, all of that it seems to me is what comes into question."


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I will watch the announcement on TV and note down any details. --User:Anonymous101 17:07, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I got some information from live broadcasts on BBC parliament so can not quote online sources.--User:Anonymous101 18:27, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

 * If you are using any of that information and it is not in the other sources; please add the original tag and put complete notes here on the collaboration page. See Original reporting for more information. --SVTCobra 19:10, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

tightened it up a bit.....
I hope it's ok to make such changes to a 'front page' article - I've tried to improve the readability and clarity. Thanks Privatemusings 02:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No it is not ok, it is encouraged. This is what Wikinews is all about. I think you did a great deal to improve this article. Thank you. Please contribute more. --SVTCobra 02:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

What, exactly, is the point of the picture of the hard drive? Is that the hard drive, or a replica of the hard drive, where the data was stored and is now sitting somewhere in Iowa? I think not. Wikinews is not a tabloid newspaper where pictures are put in for the sake of it. I shall remove it. --78.149.202.211 04:29, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


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Israel Journal: The Holy Land has an image problem

December 18, 2007

''Wikinews reporter David Shankbone is currently, courtesy of the Israeli government and friends, visiting Israel. This is a first-hand account of his experiences and may — as a result — not fully comply with Wikinews' neutrality policy. Please note this is a journalism experiment for Wikinews and put constructive criticism on the collaboration page.''

At 70 miles per hour halfway to Kennedy Airport the scent of alcohol filled the back of the cab when the driver turned around and said, “There is no traffic. It is good. Quick.” It was fitting. Up to that point I sat staring out the window thinking about all the warnings my family and friends gave me about taking care of my safety in Israel. Although I have traveled a good deal and never found a place I visited to be as it was depicted in the American media--Cuba is nothing like it is portrayed--the intonations to steer clear of pizza parlors and buses weighed on me. “Whatever you do, David, don’t go to Gaza or take a bus! Don't. Go. To. Gaza,” my mother said several times, “Just, you know, there’s a war going on over there. If you see anyone praying to Allah and sweating, run!”

Until the cab driver turned around and smiled through his boozy breath, my mind had raced with thoughts of my life ending head bowed on Al-Jazeera, surrounded by gunmen forcing me to denounce my country. I thought about Gay Talese, desperate to go to Iraq, who told me he would tell “the bastards” to “go ahead, make my day” because he would die doing what he loved: working on a story. Strangely, I found solace in my drunken driver to distract me from these thoughts, and instead I thought about Carolyn Doran, the former Wikimedia COO who has caused a firestorm for the foundation when they hired her unaware that not only is she a quadruple-convicted drunk driver, but that she also shot a boyfriend.

My flight from Kennedy to Tel Aviv had the hallmarks of a caricatured bad flight: Despite my request for an aisle, I found myself in a center seat. To my right was a morbidly obese woman in a purple beret breast-feeding her baby. In the seat to my left was another infant in a baby seat, and to his left was his mother holding yet a third baby in her lap. When I woke two of the babies were suspended from the wall in what looked like airplane baby crib trampolines. Surprisingly, it was one of the better 11 hour flights I have had. All three babies slept through the entire trip and when I woke from one nap I found myself lying against what felt like memory foam, but turned out to be the obese woman, whose largess had spilled over our hapless arm rest and into my seat. It was...not unpleasant.

Upon arrival at our hotel in Tel Aviv we were given exactly ten minutes to shower and change before we had to leave to have dinner with Dr. Yossi Vardi--the father of Israeli invention, as he is known. Jimmy Wales had introduced me to him over e-mail, and I had done my research on the man who funded and sold the ICQ network. On the bus over there Stacy Perman and David Saranga spoke about how Israel is trying to brand itself today. In particular, Perman, who writes for Businessweek, mentioned a spread in Maxim Magazine that Saranga, who is in charge of media relations for the Israeli consulate in New York, was responsible for arranging. Its theme was “The Women of the Israeli Army” and featured buxom, beautiful scantily-clad Israeli girls from the armed forces. It rubbed Perman the wrong way. “The spread seemed so Lowest Common Denominator to me. What was the thinking behind that?” asked Stacy.

Saranga had no apologies for appealing to the male libido in his never-ending drive to sell Israel. “Look, I would love for Maxim’s 2.5 million readers to pick up that magazine and read about Israeli technology and our wonderful culture here. But in truth, they are not so interested in that. When we approached Maxim they asked why they should do it; after all, there are beautiful women every where. Why Israeli beautiful women? We said, ‘But Israel is the only army where women are actually fighting alongside the men.’ So they did it. Not with guns and ammunition, but just the…beautiful women of the Israeli army. When we tested how that piece worked, we found it was very, very successful.”

But what is success? The issue, Saranga explained, is Israel has an image problem. Saranga is one of the key people in the Israeli Foreign Ministry working to create a new brand name for the holy land. Indeed, one scheduled dinner for the journalists on this trip is hosted by Ido Aharoni, whose title is Head of Israel Brand Management Team. A country's brand name is what this trip is all about. More accurately, about rebranding.

When people think of Israel, Saranga explained, they think the same things my friends and family think: it is dangerous, it is a place where you may be blown up. It is difficult to find in the American media stories that travel outside of Israeli-Palestinian-Lebanese conflict narrative. The effect, according to Saranga, has been that people do not want to come to Israel. It is too dangerous and even if safety is not an issue, it does not look like a fun place to go. According to the test research the Israeli government has conducted, people see Israel as a place that is deeply religious--it is, after all, a Jewish state--and besides holy sites such as the Temple Mount and retracing the steps of Jesus Christ, most secular American thrill seekers think there is little for them to do.

In reality, Israel is a multi-dimensional and pluralistic society with a large Arab—the majority of whom identify themselves as Palestinian—population in one of the most stable democracies in the Middle East. This trip, however, is mostly modeled to show the technology journalists what is by any measure one of the most thriving centers of innovation in the world. What we won't see is Israel's Arab side. When I suggested to Saranga that I would like to venture to the Jaffa Market, Tel Aviv’s thriving Arab bazaar, he looked at me perplexed, “Why would you want to go there?!” When I replied that it would be a good place to look for things to buy people back home, he still did not see why I would choose to go there. It was only when I mentioned it would also be good for photography--another purpose for this trip--did he say, "Well, that's true. I suppose it has color."

At dinner Dr. Yossi Vardi discussed the future of Israeli technology and pointed out that after California and Boston, Israel attracts the highest amount of venture capital incubator dollars in the world. After his speech, he turned to me with what the standard complaints I hear about Wikipedia; namely, that it is not always accurate and it is arbitrary in how it decides what is notable (in particular, the article on a product he is financing, Fring, has been deleted five times, he said, despite being a market leader). “How do you decide what is right and what is notable?” asked Vardi. It was the same question raised by the Haaretz reporter when he interviewed me later that night for an article about my trip. With both Vardi and Haaretz I brought up the on-going Santa Claus battle on Wikipedia, in which I was heavily involved. Several editors do not want us to point out that Santa Claus is not real () or, absent outright supporting the myth, that we should hide he is made up. The problem is that Wikipedia is not responsible for supporting cultural myths, but to explain them.

“But I believe in Santa Claus” replied Vardi. “Who are you to say he is not real?” It is a question that was raised in the Santa talk page discussion, and a difficult challenge to answer. And like the pro-Santa editors on the Santa Claus discussion, Vardi asked “What about God? Can you say that God does not exist?” But are Santa and God really the same beyond an academic philosophical discussion, I replied. God is typically taught to explain aspects of the world around us that we can not explain ourselves through our knowledge and technology. Santa, on the other hand, is a story parents know to be false. They tell their children to believe in something and then make an elaborate effort to support something they know is not true (milk and cookies consumed; gifts given by Santa; Father Christmas tracked on the Air Force website). Eventually, the time comes when parents reveal to their children that he never existed; it was them all along eating those cookies.

“But perception," Dr. Vardi responded, "is reality. So who are you to say? It is the question of the tree falling in the woods and whether anyone hears it." I responded that to take knowledge to such academic and philosophical realms is fine for spirited dinner conversation, but useless when trying to engage in practical pursuits.  "After all, Dr. Vardi, how would you ever solve an engineering problem if all it takes for reality to be formed is to believe something to be true? You must come across many people who believe fervently that products they are developing will be successful; do you invest based upon their beliefs? The question is always whether a tree falling makes a sound. The question is never framed as, 'Has the tree fallen?' It's a given."

Cnaan Liphshiz, the Haaretz reporter, relayed similar concerns about Wikipedia as Vardi, although less philosophical. Are we a reliable source of information? "The short answer is no," I said. He looked at me surprised "The problem with such a question is not whether Wikipedia is reliable, but is any one source of information reliable?  Studies continually show that Wikipedia is reliable at redacting information and presenting what others say to be true.  But are our sources right?  No person should rely upon one source for anything.  They should seek several sources to form an opinion.  Does Wikipedia do a better job of presenting several opinions than The New York Times or Fox News?  Yes, I believe they do." My presence on this trip, I offered Haaretz, raised the interesting question that Web 2.0 presents: how did the Israeli foreign ministry decide on David Shankbone to report for Wikinews and Wikipedia on this trip? 25% of the answer lies in my accreditation with Wikinews and that I am able to be an original source of reporting. But 75% of the reason rests upon my contributions to Wikimedia projects, which made me stand out over other contributors. Between my photography and my interviews, I have done high profile projects on Wikipedia and its sister projects. So can other commoners like me take off to Israel when we make worthwhile contributions to high-profile Web 2.0 sites like Wikipedia? Maybe. The challenge for firms, governments and organizations today is to figure out who amongst a morass of disparate and sometimes bizarre user names can actually produce substantive work. The answer is that those who want to contribute information to the public sphere need to expend time to find who out there in Web 2.0 is worth contacting, and whether people in Web 2.0 can even do anything for them. This is the same advice I gave the Rubenstein Public Relations company (who manages PR for the Tribeca Film Festival), which is how the Israelis found me.

On a trip like this, what are the Israelis' goals for Wikimedia? For David Saranga, it goes back to the rebranding of Israel. They simply want people to highlight aspects of their country that do not involve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Hence, we are here to look at Israel's technology sector in a head-spinning array of meetings. This made Wikipedia and Wikinews, influential sources of information that attempt to present the world as it is, an attractive option. "The fact is, there is so much going on in Israel today that nobody knows about because the media does not write stories about Israel outside of the conflict," said Saranga. The opportunity to have someone from the Internet's major encyclopedia visit the Weizmann Institute, the Technion and some of the holy sites was golden for them. Just don't go to the Arab parts and whatever you do, don't go to Gaza.

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This was absolute rubbish! I heard nothing about Israel the country itself, nothing about Israelis or any interviews with Arabs. Just some blabbering philosophical thoughts? The photographs are lame too, just some photos of some people and an airport (???). I have travelled many places and I have much more interesting stories like getting arrested by Basiji (political police) in Iran :) Wikinews should let me try to write one of these. Genjix 00:12, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I see some style-problems with the first-hand story-telling nature of this article. And sharing not only what people say, but also personal thoughts ... stylistically it is a huge departure for Wikinews and I think a lot of people will have problems with this as far as maintaining neutrality and avoiding editorializing. --SVTCobra 17:58, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think this is good as many people enjoy reading this sort of article, and as long as it is marked as it was I don't mind if the occasional article is like this, although I do not what Wikinews to be an opinion site and I completly understand your concerns
 * Why? I, personally, don't see a problem with this article. We should make an exception as this will get more attention on Wikinews rather than on the blog.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 18:18, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Any other time anyone wrote anything remotely close to this style (in my experience), were given the essay tag and either rewritten or deleted. --SVTCobra 19:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I share SVT's concerns. This does read more like a blog entry than a neutral article (a very well written blog entry but still a blog entry). JoshuaZ 20:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Normally I would agree...BUT he is there, reporting for Wikinews...in a once in a lifetime chance for us and WMF. So if we have to bend the rules, to get a kick ass article and allow him to write this, then why not? We don't allow this at all if ever, so i think given the circumstances, it should be allowed. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:06, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * NPOV is a Foundation level policy. I'm not sure bending it is allowed at all. This is great material, but there may be a better way for David to present it. (Maybe we could put this on the Wikinews blog since it is in many ways closer to a blog entry and the blog isn't restricted by NPOV). JoshuaZ 01:41, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I see no NPOV concerns here...he states all facts. Although its not in the normal frame of how we write, it follows policy. If you can tell me what is opinion...point that out to me because I see none. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:43, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * How is remembering warnings that your family gave you "facts"? --SVTCobra 02:06, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

To refer to Israel as "The Holy Land" is somewhat POV.--77.101.73.67 22:21, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It is holy to many religions, it is a land, therefore it is a holy land. I am non religious but have no problem with Israel being reffered to as the holy land. --User:Anonymous101 19:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It is the holy land. Birth of Christ. Highly religious...DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:31, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * What do the non-Abrahamic religions think of that assertion? There are other people than Muslims, Jews, and Christians! --SVTCobra 02:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

My first impressions of the very nature of this article is that it damages the internationally-neutral perspective of Wikinews. Why would English-speaking Israeli readers of Wikinews need a report on their own country? --78.149.202.211 04:33, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * My take on this: My feelings are mixed. Its definitly interesting and well written, and its not something that real newspapers don't do, but it is, as SVT said, a huge departure from the traditonal wikinews. So in all honesty, I have no idea what my opinion is. (I think that quite possibly was one of the most useless things I've ever said. I repeated what others said, and then said I didn't know [[image:wink.png|19px]].) oh well Bawolff ☺☻ 06:42, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Published?
Was there any kind of concesus reached before this was published?--SVTCobra 02:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, there are no OR notes as of yet. --SVTCobra 02:18, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * There was some discussion on WN:WC. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:42, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I see, so a "Hi guys, I am going on a trip in a little while" at the Water Cooler now qualifies as original reporting notes. Great. --SVTCobra 14:06, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

The bulk of the later part of the article was a bit heavy on technology talk, however considering this is the first of a whole series to come it seems like a good intro. I'm looking forward to it. 68.175.118.95 07:43, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I reworded the disclaimer and published. I'd like to see us learn from this and give it a little leeway to develop. We may need notability guidelines for the trip to prevent people coming along and writing about their summer holidays.
 * David has, in my opinion, stuck to NPOV as closely as can be expected for this type of report. It is very well written and quite, quite readable. I highlighted it on the ComCom mailing list and the key criticism it received was the COO issue being mentioned. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:41, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * That is indeed a little odd, if I may say so. It doesn't quite fit. It strikes me as relatively NPOV- not more so than the wonderful interviews we've been getting of late. It's good. I am looking forward to seeing the rest of this series.

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Neutrality
I don't understand the people who continue to say that this fits within WN:NPOV. How many slurs against Palestinians as terrorists does the article need before it breaks NPOV? How about the paragraph that speaks in glowing terms about what a wonderfully "multi-dimensional and pluralistic society" Israel is and how stable its democracy is. I am not attacking David's integrity, but this is the narrowest possible POV of all. A story told and observed through one pair of eyes, led—no less—on a guided tour by the government of Israel. This on-the-go reporting can only tell what David sees and hears, which is being controlled by the government. --SVTCobra 13:19, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It's clearly not NPOV, because there's only a single POV. This is simply an editorial, which does seem to be banned by WN:NOT.  However, I think it would make more sense for Wikinews to allow editorials, which are common in brick and mortar newspapers, as long as they're clearly labelled as such. Superm401 | Talk 06:11, 19 December 2007 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superm401 (talk • contribs)

Arab Israelis
David, please cite a source for reversing my claim that most Arab Israelis identify as Palestinian. My source is this "today the majority of Israeli Arabs identify themselves as Palestinians by nationality and Israeli by citizenship." from this BBC article. Thanks, --SVTCobra 18:46, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I already reverted this long before you wrote the above, citing that I misread what you wrote. --David Shankbone 18:54, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

structure more pertinent than content for me
hi folks,

first a short note to say that I hope this kind of article can find a place on a project like this - the presence of a clear byline means the author can and should write honest reflections without slavish subservience to an abstract concept of neutrality - ultimately it is the author's credibility at stake, and perhaps the 'right' to publish such articles could eventually rest on some sort of community process? hmmmm... (with apologies that these are pretty clearly first thoughts on the matter)

Secondly, I wonder if some discussion may be appropriate as to the structure of the piece. Perhaps it could be broken down into several pages, with an option to view the entire content on a single page? That could be achieved manually if desired - and I would say that it renders the whole thing more readable - and will encourage people to complete the article - I think to immediately have it all on one page is a perhaps slightly too much.

That's my tuppence... Privatemusings 00:24, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I found it easy to read the entire article in one go; read it several times already. I disagree that such pieces should give scope to wildly deviate from our neutrality underpinnings and don't think this one does. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

POV? so what
Most newspapers have something they call "editorials". Wikinews is different from the 'pedia in that it allows original research, so why not editorals. David Shankbone has shown that he writes with an open mind. I think that's what the world needs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Njaard (talk • contribs) 09:08, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Editorials are not allowed because there is too much room for speculation. David's journal entry does, if you read it in a certain way, highlight that his hosts would rather he avoid what they consider "typical" reporting on the conflict. It is not an editorial, the general point of an editorial piece is to present the opinion of the author and try and persuade you to agree with it. This piece offers a chance to do a first-person report where what you'd expect in an editorial (presentation of arguments and statement of position) is being presented by David to his hosts and he is reporting how they react. Wikinews generally does, and should, attempt to balance within a single article. This does the best that can be expected in the circumstances. It is clearly "Here's what my family thought and said" - the typical perception of the region, and "here I am, my hosts want to prove the stereotype is inappropriate". David is not presenting the Israeli POV as his own, he is accurately reporting that this is what they are seeking to do. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:39, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Print Edition
I am includiing it in the Print Edition with warnings about its neutrality. If anyone has severe objections tell me so I can see if I can fix the problem--User:Anonymous101 15:55, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Vardi
I've read many articles on the guy (in Hebrew) and have never seen him being referred to as "the father of Israeli invention", it seems like glorification to me. Yonatan 21:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Not at all. It was how he was described by the tech leader discussing who we are meeting, although I think they said "Entrepreneurs" instead of invention.  But, he is intrinsically linked to their tech sector and trying to increase it.  His importance to that sector can't be underestimated, and he is a very public and influential guy known for seeding many companies. --David Shankbone 22:02, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Due to my living in Israel and my father being an acquaintance of his, I know all that. :) Granted, this isn't a normal news article that needs to adhere to NPOV but nevertheless my point is that the phrase is a superlative that could be restated as - one of the Israeli tech industry's most prominent figures, something I could more easily agree with. Anyway, if you're around Ramat Hasharon, you're welcome to drop by my house. :) Yonatan 23:15, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Googling Vardi with either of the phrases "father of invention" or "father of entrepeneurs" (and a few variations) doesn't turn up much except this and the other Israel journal. --SVTCobra 00:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Some comments
I really like this story-telling style David has, and he does it ever so well -it makes me LOL. But I don't agree with "Wikipedia and Wikinews, influential sources of information". --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 13:14, 24 December 2007 (UTC)


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Dad sells $90 video game for $9000 after catching son smoking pot

December 18, 2007

Newspapers and online sources today reported that a Canadian father sold a hard-to-find video game, which he bought for $90, for $9000 (Canadian), after finding his son smoking pot.

The father had bought Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock for Nintendo Wii, which cost him $90, after scouring every store, to find it as a Christmas present for his son.

"I was so relieved in that I had finally got the Holy Grail of Christmas presents pretty much just in the nick of time," the father wrote on eBay when selling the item. However, when the man came home on Saturday, a bit early, he found his son smoking pot with two friends.

The man, a school teacher, said he sold the game to punish his son, and stop him from smoking. The game was sold on eBay for $9000, over one-hundred times the original selling price of the game.

The boy, however, will not go without a present, as the man considered purchasing a Nintendo Wii game such as Barbie as the Island Princess or Dancing with the Stars.

According to the The Daily Telegraph, the purchaser was an Australian father.

The veracity of the winning bid has yet to be authenticated, so suspicions that the exchange may not be finalised remain.


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Putin will accept prime minister position if Medvedev wins

December 17, 2007 Russian President Vladimir Putin said he will accept a nomination for Prime Minister of Russia, as Dmitry Medvedev has suggested he will do, if he wins the presidential election.

Meanwhile, the United Russia ruling party, which is backed by Putin, officially nominated Medvedev for presidency today. The intention was declared on December 10, being the long-awaited answer to the question on "Putin's successor". The next day Medvedev, who is the current deputy prime minister of the Russian government and the chairman in the board of directors of Gazprom gas giant, offered Putin the Prime Minister position in case of winning the election, which is forecasted to happen.

Today, United Russia, which has a majority in the country's lower parliament, has held its VII convention where the nomination and Putin's declared consent took place. 478 voting members backed Medvedev while one opposed. Medvedev is also backed by three other parties — A Just Russia, Agrarian Party of Russia and Civilian Power.

Recently there were speculations about Putin's intention to become a head of Russia and Belarus alliance, which were speedily rejected by Putin's representatives.


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Grand Central Railway launches direct train service linking London with north east England

December 18, 2007 Grand Central Railway have today launched a new train service between London King's Cross and Sunderland in the north east of England. The first service arrived in London shortly before 1030 UTC.

The company has been troubled with a variety of difficulties which have caused the launch to be cancelled on a number of occasions. More recently problems with acquiring rolling stock, the decision by the Office of Rail Regulation to allow the services was challenged by the then principal operator of East Coast Main Line services, GNER.

The new service calls at Sunderland, Hartlepool, Eaglescliffe, Northallerton, Thirsk, York, and terminates at London King's Cross.

Grand Central are operating an interim timetable of one return journey per day until more rolling stock becomes available, expected by the end of January, to permit the full timetable of three return journeys to begin.

The company is only one of a few "open access" operators in the United Kingdom which rather than bidding for a franchise and running a level of service set by government, Grand Central applied for access rights having identified a commercial opportunity.


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Original reporting
I travelled to London to see the first service arrive at King's Cross and witness the event and take photographs. Adambro 17:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


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Brazilian-Argentine rocket successfully launched

December 18, 2007 After its start had been postponed four times due to bad weather conditions, a research rocket of type "VS-30" took off successfully on Sunday, 16 December from Brazil. During the mission, which lasted nine minutes and 25 seconds, the rocket reached a height of 150 kilometers according to Xinhua, but only 120 km according to Associated Press.

The joint project between Brazil and Argentina was in accordance with a contract from 1998, under which both states contributed with experiments that were transported into space as a workload. The rocket was launched at 9:15 am CET from the spaceport located in Boca do Inferno in the Brazilian state of. 122 kilometers from the launch site, the workload landed in the. After its recovery, the evaluation of the experiments will take place in.


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US presidential candidate Ron Paul breaks online fundraising record

December 17, 2007

United States presidential candidate Ron Paul, has broken a fund raising record by raising over US$6,000,000 on the internet in 24 hours on December 16, setting the record for the most money raised in a single day online. John Kerry held the previous record of US$5.7 million.

Paul's goal for the fourth quarter fund raising bid was US$12 million, but so far has managed to raise over US$18 million.

At least 58,000 people contributed financially to Paul's campaign, 25,000 of which were contributing to his campaign for the first time.

Campaign officials say they will use the money for advertising on television in several states including Florida and California but primarily New Hampshire and Iowa. More people are also expected to be hired onto to his campaign.

The fund raising campaign, which was held on the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party was organized and operated by volunteers. The same volunteers also organized a re-enactment of the Tea Party which Paul attended and marched with supporters from The Statehouse to Faneuil Hall in downtown Boston, Massachusetts.

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This article is really sub-par. One sentence ... one source. How did it get published and archived? --SVTCobra 01:03, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


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User talk:Thedarkarrow

About your Varbogen entry ... it doesn't qualify as news. It is more of an encyclopedic entry. Please feel free to see if it fits in with Wikipedia, but I am afraid we can't use it here. --SVTCobra 02:44, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Dad sells $90 video game for $9000 after catching son smoking pot

I found an independent source but it disagrees with the first source on a few key points. --SVTCobra 03:02, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I think I've worked out more or less what happened and have described it as such. I'm still not completely comfortable with this article. JoshuaZ 03:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think some of the $ amount issues are due to exchange rates between Aussie and Canadian dollars. --SVTCobra 03:30, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * We should probably unpublish this until we can figure out what the correct numbers are and which is which currency. JoshuaZ 19:19, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't care anymore. This has been around newswires around the globe and probably everyone has read some version it. I can tell you that C$1 costs A$1.1275 as of this very minute. Do want you deem appropriate, --SVTCobra 19:36, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * That means that C$9000.00 is equal A$10,147.50 which is roughly inline with two amounts in the story. Hope that helps. --SVTCobra 19:38, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

doesn't add up for me....
hi folks - sorry to be a downer, but this article doesn't add up from my perspective - I suspect the winning bid will turn out to be fake, which kinda makes the whole thing a 'didn't really happen' episode.

Having said that - the reason it's got legs is that it's a good read - amusing and topical. The core problem with the story is that the game is freely available in australia. It's very (very) hard to believe that anyone actually paid $9000 for it. Privatemusings 00:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Especially when the source of the report is the Daily Telegraph, which isn't known for its fact-checking on these sorts of stories... 203.6.164.49 01:45, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I flagged this for deletion, without a link to the ended auction, I don't even think its real. You can go on e-bay and there are hundreds of copy's of the game for under $200. Zath42 18:44, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Here is the listing:
 * E-Bay
 * And another story for good measure:
 * Reuters
 * --SVTCobra 19:36, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Category
Please add Category:Games. --InfantGorilla (talk) 20:03, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Brian McNeil / talk 20:11, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

What is this article doing on the front page of the Australia portal? It's one year old! --77.75.161.35 20:42, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


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Hello, thanks for contributing Explosion / Smoke at 34th Street - Penn Station - December 8, 2007. Unfortunately, since no newswires picked up the story, it makes it hard for us to confirm. We have some guidelines, that might help you in the future. Please see Original reporting. Under those guidelines, we need detailed notes from the reporter, and in this case you didn't provide us enough information. I am sorry it worked out this way. --SVTCobra 04:03, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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Hi! This is ComputerGuy890100.

See my Wikipedia page.

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New mall in Washington, US almost complete, traffic a concern

December 19, 2007 A new shopping center in Washington, United States called Lakewood Crossing is planning on building and opening new stores. It was opened on September 21, 2006 with the opening of the Marysville, Washington Costco. The mall has still been in the planning stages since 2005. The developer is Powell Development from Kirkland, Washington and the mall is located in North Lakewood, Washington.

There are more than 17 stores and more are being built. A Marshalls, Boston's Gourmet Pizza, Mongolian Grill, Discount Tire, and others are yet to open. The Washington State Department of Transportation say this could cause more traffic problems. The intersection of Washington State Route 531 and 27th Avenue (only way in and out) is "crowded and tight". Twin Lakes is now inaccessible because of the traffic.

Plans to redo the traffic are coming soon. They plan to open a loop ramp on the interchange of Washington State Route 531 and Interstate 5 in 2009. Twin Lakes Avenue NE will be extended and a freeway ramp will be added soon, along with a bridge across Interstate 5.


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Free speech restricted in New Zealand with passing of Bill, say opponents

December 18, 2007

The proposed amendments to the Electoral Finance Act have been passed into law, which critics call an attack on free speech. The law will come into effect on January 1, 2008 - the start of election year in New Zealand - after receiving royal assent by the Queen's representative in New Zealand, Governor-General Anand Satyanand.

Under the new law, individuals or groups of New Zealanders will face restrictions on what they can say for or against a political party. Once an organisation has spent over NZ$12,000 (currently USD$9,080) on a campaign, they must register and then face what opponent John Boscawen describes as "draconian restrictions or requirements" including a limit of $120,000 ($USD 90,800). "At a time when political parties are free to spend millions and millions of dollars promoting their own views - both from their own money, and taxpayer's money.

On its third and final reading, the new Act had 63 votes for, 57 against. National Party, Māori, ACT, UnitedFuture and independent Taito Phillip Field voted against, with Labour, Greens, New Zealand First and Progressive voting for.

Justice Minister, Annette King, dismisses the claims by opponents who claim that free speech will be stifled. She says that it only restricts speech that has been paid for, not free speech.

Invercargill Mayor Tim Shadbolt faces a conviction under the new law because of a campaign he is spearheading against the Government over tertiary funding cuts. However, Mr Shadbolt says that he is not worried about possibly breaking the law, "Well I’ve been to jail twice before, I’ve spent five years in periodic detention centres, I’ve been arrested 33 times I’m not likely to be intimidated at this stage of my life."

National leader John Key said, "So Tim will be in breach of the law and there is every chance that he will go to jail for two years or face a fine of $40,000...."


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User talk:Kelly Ho

If you remove the publish tag from a long published article, please explain why. Thank you. --SVTCobra 11:53, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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Hi, and welcome to wikinews. For the image you just uploaded, can you please include some details about the image, and a source (URL where you got it from, or explanation on how you got it) here. Please also upload any free images to Wikimedia Commons. Wikimedia commons is a website separate from wikinews where we, and several other wikis put images. This way all the wikis that use commons for images can use the image instantly, without uploading it to each individual site.

Thankyou. If you have any questions, or need help, don't hesitate to ask. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:36, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:50, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

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 * I am sorry what I did. I have created a new portal Portal:Badminton and may I know how to put the badminton in the green box. Kelly Ho 02:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It looks like you figured that out, unfortunately the story 2007 Hong Kong Super Series cannot be used here. While our badminton coverage is lacking, we cannot make up for it by posting news from over two weeks ago. However, as new stories like tournament results, etc., emerge we would love to see your contributions. Let me know if I can be of any other help. Cheers, --SVTCobra 00:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:221.127.101.245

Hello. I saw you experimenting with Wikinews. It is best to do so in the Sandbox. Thanks, --SVTCobra 14:11, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:New mall in Washington, US almost complete, traffic a concern

I have asked User:ComputerGuy890100 to provide some OR notes (I asked at w:User:ComputerGuy890100 since user is more active there). --SVTCobra 14:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

OR notes
Hi, It's ComputerGuy890100. I live next to Lakewood Crossing and I have been observing it grow. I did this story because I would like the public on Wikinews to know what the Wikipedians gathered.

-ComputerGuy890100 04:34, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't agree with just this word. We need more notes. I have been busy and if I had noticed this earlier, I would have said something. We need detailed notes. Not just a sentence or two. I take pictures of my notes, sometimes I even have e-mails. But an observing point is little to go on. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 03:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC)


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User talk:208.54.95.196

Why should the picture not say when and where it was taken? --SVTCobra 15:36, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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Comments:Dad sells $90 video game for $9000 after catching son smoking pot

What the hell!!! $9000 dollars, DAMN!!! I walked past a shelf of about 25 today, i should buy them all up and then sell them!! WOOOOO chirstmas fund!!! :-) --Mark Talk to me 15:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, if that guy can do that then we might as well all do that. LOL. Maybe the WMF should do this!  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 17:34, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

It would make a great donation to WMF. :) Pilotguy roger that  20:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

ROTFL
And for smoking pot you are sentenced to Barbie for Christmas. Heh, I was laughing my ass off when I read that bit. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:03, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Hilarious, good job dad!
That'll teach a life long lesson about drugs, awesome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.119.92.58 (talk) 18:52, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Incoherence
Why was the game auctioned so high? Please explain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.248.135.187 (talk) 20:29, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Funny thing is the game wont work on an australian wii. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.233.247 (talk) 19:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Just a little odd
Doesn't it seem unusual to anyone that a man who clearly could have purchased the game at a much cheaper price after Christmas would spend such a heinous amount of money just to have it for the holiday?

This is just my opinion, but no videogame is worth $9,000 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.74.236.101 (talk) 15:49, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

 * As the article notes, that was just the winning bid, it is unknown if the transaction was completed at that price. --SVTCobra 15:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't buy it
You can go on e-bay and use buy it now and get the game for $125. Some of those buy it now auctions look a little old like they may have even been around when this supposedly happened... I think its made up...Zath42 18:46, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Seems doubtful, a search for completed listings in all categories for "guitar hero" gave results back to December 7th and highest price for a completed transaction was $1150 and that came bundled with a wii and a bunch of other games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.78.120.239 (talk) 07:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

lol too bad for the kid —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.84.1.36 (talk) 01:57, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

dad sells game
hat really sucks for that kid!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.191.191.20 (talk) 19:46, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Issues with the article
This article has many mixed up facts. It states basically that a Canadian or Australian father sold the game for 9000, but then later in the article mentions him selling it for slightly more that that. I don't feel this article is fit for the main page of wikinews. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachary (talk • contribs) 05:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I love and support weed. I think the dad's a fucking dick head and douce bag. And i wouldn't buy the damn video game for $9000 i'd just buy a acual Gibson Les Paul for that price. Hey Mr. that's the dad of this article you can suck my dick.10:4

That is the fucking Gayiest article i've read.

a round of applause!
There's not much I can say except the dad did the right thing by punishing his kid. Weed, hah! Pandacomics (talk) 04:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

!!!!

Hahahahahha
hahahhahhahhah hes dumb!!!!! 76.112.25.158 23:14, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "What???"
What??? —76.170.119.246 (talk) 05:30, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


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Nick Clegg is new leader of UK Liberal Democrat party

December 18, 2007 Nick Clegg has came out first in the race to become the new leader of the Liberal Democrat Party, the third largest party in the United Kingdom.

Clegg congratulated Vincent Cable on his performance as acting leader of the Liberal Democrats, which he took after the resignation of Menzies Camp

He beat Chris Huhne in the party's election, although the number of votes was very close - Nick Clegg had just 511 more votes than Huhne.

During his acceptance speech he said "I want the Liberal Democrats to be the future of politics," and that he hoped his leadership of the Liberal Democrats would be about ambition and change. He also acknowledged that it was a close contest. His acceptance speech took place in a central London hotel.

In his speech he also criticized the Labour and Conservative parties by saying they were mutating in to one party and encouraged unsatisfied voters to vote for the Liberal Democrats.

Clegg in the Liberal Democrats
Before Clegg became a Member of the UK parliament, he had a variety of different roles on the Liberal Democrats, including a Liberal Democrat as the European Member of Parliament for the East Midlands.

He was also made the spokesman for Trade and Industry for the European Liberal Democrats and Reform group as well as campaigning to end illegal logging.

He became a Member of Parliament (for Sheffield Hallam)in the UK General Election in May 2005 after quitting his job as an MEP in 2002.


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Musharraf lifts emergency rule in Pakistan

December 18, 2007

On December 15, Pervez Musharraf appeared in a nationally televised address in Pakistan to announce the end of emergency rule which had been invoked on November 3, 2007. Musharraf said that his objective of saving Pakistan from being destabilized had been achieved. However, a ban that prevents media from making live broadcasts has been left in place.

Benazir Bhutto, a former Prime Minister and key opposition member, said that this is "an important step forward," however, more is need to achieve a "restoration of democracy" in Pakistan.

"We welcome President Musharraf's lifting of state of emergency and the revoking of the provisional constitutional order," Amadeu Altafaj Tardio, a spokesperson for the European Commissioner for Development & Humanitarian Aid told reporters at a briefing on Monday.

"It is essential for all restrictions on fundamental rights and freedoms to be lifted in advance of the parliamentary elections," Tardio continued. "We thus appeal to the government to take further steps to enhance confidence in the political process."

Pakistan is scheduled to hold a general election on January 8, 2008.


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Isn't it tool late to publish it?--User:Anonymous101 17:22, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think so, plus the EU reaction didn't come until yesterday. And with all the articles we had on the subject, I felt it was important to have this (to close this chapter, if you will), although ideally, we would have had it right when it happened. It would have been "not-news" if something else had happened in between to change the situation, like if emergency rule had been reinstated. --SVTCobra 22:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


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BBC Radio 1 reverses "faggot" ruling hours after initial ban

December 18, 2007 bosses have today reversed their decision to censor the word "faggot" from the 20 year old  song by. The initial censoring of the song caused controversy recently as the song had been played for 20 years without censoring, and resulted in many people contacting the BBC saying the decision was "ridiculous". The ban was also ridiculed for the fact that it only applied to Radio 1 and not to Radio 2 or any other station on the BBC network.

The Radio 1 management made the initial decision saying "We are playing an edited version because some members of the audience might find it offensive" and thus the word faggot was disguised from "you scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot". The word "slut" from the line "you're an old slut on junk" was also censored.

A further meeting was held today in which the management decided to stick by their initial decision, however at around 18.00 (UTC) a breaking news bulletin, from the controller of Radio 1, was read out during the  show, saying that the decision was "wrong" and that the full song would be played un-edited in future.


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Comments:Flight attendant Todd Herzog wins $1 million on 'Survivor: China'

Thanks for blowing it for me.


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Wikinews:Dynamic quiz/quiz/2007/51

Welcome to the Wikinews World News Quiz, giving you a chance to test your knowledge on this week's news.

Last Updated: December 18, 2007

Quiz
{How many hectares of crops were destroyed during Tropical Storm Olga in the Caribbean? - 3000 + 4000 - 5000 - 6000
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 * See Tropical Storm Olga causes many deaths in Caribbean

{Which country proposed the "Bali Roadmap"? - USA - UK + India - Germany
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{What is the death toll for Tropical Storm Olga? - 35 - 36 - 37 + 38
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{The launch of the space shuttle Atlantis has been delayed until when? + 2008 - 2009 - 2010 - 2011
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{What genetic disorder does Reggie Bibbs have? - cancer - flu + neurofibromatosis - cerebral palsy
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 * See Interview with Reggie Bibbs on his life with neurofibromatosis

{Al Gore urged which countries to do more about global warming? - US and India - US and Australia + US and China - Australia and New Zealand
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 * See Nobel prize winner Al Gore urges US and China to do more about global warming

{This week the first rail service across the Korean Borders took Place for the first time in how many years? + 50 - 60 - 70 - 80
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 * See First rail service in 50 years begins across Korean borders

 * Now you've finished the quiz, why don't you  post your score on the talk page

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Comments:Israel Journal: The Holy Land has an image problem

The media definitely portrays Israel in a negative way, especially us Palestinians.
 * That's certainly true. Great article. Spacehusky 23:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

a problematic image
it's a result of the fact that many people trust whatever they see on cnn... cool project... love israel! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.178.91.235 (talk) 12:36, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


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User talk:Ldolnick

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User talk:Xris0

Hello, I saw your comment about "veiled slander" in the edit summary with regard to the image caption in the Ron Paul article. Can you expand on what you mean with that? Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:05, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:US presidential candidate Ron Paul breaks online fundraising record

Image
I reverted back to the original image for a few reasons
 * The new image was up for deletion - unfree license
 * It was removed for being "veiled slander", yet the image was not, it just stated a fact that he was attending a conference
 * The image was not the one that was originally there at publish and the article is nearing its 24 hr limit. i know there is leneancy in this but the reasons for change are not strong enough.

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Danish troops killed in Afghanistan by UK friendly fire says Danish MoD

December 19, 2007

A report by Denmark's Ministry of Defence has concluded that two Danish soldiers were killed in a friendly fire incident by British missiles, in Afghanistan. The British Ministry of Defence has yet to conclude its own investigation. The incident, which occurred on September 26, 2007, took place near Gereshk in the Helmand Province of Afghanistan. According to the report, British infantry mis-identified a Danish position along the Helmand River as one belonging to the Taliban.

While at their base, identified as "Golf Bravo 8-1" and described as an observation post, the Danish troops came under fire at 21:28 local time (UTC+4:30) lasting until 22:23. Privates Thorbjørn O. Reese and Mikkel Keil Sørensen were killed.

Upon reaching the site, Danish investigators found remnants of three Javelin missiles, which are used by British infantry. An autopsy concluded that fragments found in the bodies originated from these missiles.

The Danish troops, who were under British command as part of International Security Assistance Force, were asked for permission by the British to fire upon Taliban within their operational area. As they were within their compound at the time, the Danes granted the permission, not realizing that is was their compound itself that had been identified as a Taliban position.

Although, the British government is not officially commenting until its own investigation has concluded, Brigadier Andrew Mackay, commander of British forces in Helmand, said "I would like to express my deepest sympathies to the families and friends of Privates Thorbjørn O. Reese and Mikkel Keil Sørensen at this difficult time."

"From my own personal experience of having the Danish Battlegroup now under my command here in Helmand I know that this incident will not sway the resolve of the Danish soldiers who continue to work alongside their British counterparts in Afghanistan," he continued. "I know that they will continue to show the same bravery and dedication to their duties as they continue to play a vital role alongside us in the defeat of the Taliban within Helmand."


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Man dies on ride at Disney World in Florida; possibly had prior conditions

December 19, 2007 A man has died after riding the Expedition Everest roller coaster at Walt Disney World's Animal Kingdom in Orlando, Florida.

The man, identified as Jeffery Reed, 44 from Navarre, was given CPR after being pulled off the ride unconscious, and was taken in an ambulance to Celebration Hospital, where he was pronounced dead. Reed had no external signs of injuries, and police are investigating to determine whether or not Reed may have had any pre-existing medical conditions. An autopsy is to be performed on the body, but details have not yet been released.

Reed was believed to have been conscious at least 50 seconds before the ride ended, when a camera took a picture of him. Cameras are sometimes placed on roller coasters so that riders can buy a photo of themselves as they go down a hill.

It is reported that the ride, which opened in 2006, was functioning properly at the time of the incident, but has been closed until further notice.

The Walt Disney World website for the ride says "WARNING! For safety, you should be in good health and free from high blood pressure, heart, back or neck problems, motion sickness, or other conditions that could be aggravated by this adventure. Expectant mothers should not ride."

Since 1989, 15 people have died while riding on rides at the park; many who have died on park rides have had prior aliments.

A four-year-old who died on the Body Wars ride in 1995 had a cardiac conduction defect, which is a congenital heart condition; the mother insisted the girl had no history of health problems, but relatives told officials that the girl was being treated at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston for undisclosed reasons.

Autopsy of a boy who died on Rock 'n' Roller Coaster in 2006 found he too had a congenital heart problem. In 2006, a 49-year-old German tourist died in a hospital after she fell ill on the Mission: Space ride, from bleeding brain caused by high blood pressure, not provoked by the ride.


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Bug: If article name contains colon, breaks link to opinion tab from talk page
Something wrong (I assume) with the code that strips out the namespace. For example the Opinion tab on Talk:Israel Journal: The Holy Land has an image problem goes to Comments:Israel Journal. I should be able to figure out and fix this sometime soonish. (Assuming nobody beats me to it). Bawolff ☺☻ 03:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[Resolved][Bug] checkCommentaryPageExist is not a function
Thanks for this code! :-) Really helped me on my own wiki, where we have an additional tab called "Journal".

I noticed the following error in the Firefox browser (using the "Firebug" extension) and Chrome (using the "Developer Tools"): checkCommentaryPageExist is not a function [Break On This Error] checkCommentaryPageExist(targetPage, 'ca-comments', OpinionParams);

When I changed your code: var checkCommentaryPageExist = function (pageName, id, query) { to: function checkCommentaryPageExist(pageName, id, query) { then problem was resolved ("No JavaScript Errors" message) and the above error does not occur. :-)

Best Regards, --Danny373 (talk) 14:48, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that's odd. It definitely should work in both ways. Possibly something with load order, and the first one executing before the second is defined (but that'd be odd since the first is from an on document ready hook). Bawolff ☺☻ 23:46, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
 * After moving the  function code to the top this small bug resolved and no more errors in the "Firebug" console. Thanks Bawolff! :) --Danny373 (talk) 07:22, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Would it be better to locate the "Collaboration" tab to the right of the "Opinions" tab, rather than to the left?
Personally, I think this would be better: more logical, more consistent. I am willing to make the necessary change in the code here, if I see sufficient agreement. But otherwise, I won't...since I doubt Wikipedia's "Be bold!" mantra extends to redesigning tabs on a non-Wikipedia project. Magic Sands (talk)
 * Not too sure about changing the order in that way. But, completely suppressing the tab on articles that haven't been published (we use flaggedrevs) would be most useful.
 * Ideally, it wouldn't be a tab, but appear at the bottom of the actual article as most sites would implement something like Disqus (sp?). --Brian McNeil / talk 22:58, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Trying to remember what bad things I've heard about Disqus... --Pi zero (talk) 23:26, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

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Talk:Meteorite blamed for mysterious illness in Peru

"Gasses [sic]"?
While it's distinctly a minority spelling (under 10% by Google estimation), "gasses" is not an incorrect usage in my opinion. Is the "sic" appropriate? 70.15.116.59 05:47, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


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User talk:69.105.172.51

Hello. Please only create news articles. Anything else will be deleted. Thank you for your understanding, if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:52, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

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Comments:BBC Radio 1 reverses "faggot" ruling hours after initial ban

Maybe one day Moyles' Radio One will be as edgy and daring as Terry Wogan's Radio Two... Shane.Bell 11:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC) Heh. Ah, Terry Wogan - too subtle for most people with his humour. I think he always worries about offending people so it is the self-ridicule when he does things like Eurovision that people get. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:32, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Man dies on ride at 'Disney World' in Florida

I don't really see why 'Disney World' is in quotes, since the incident did indeed occur at Disney World. 128.227.5.64 15:15, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


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US Department of Health proposes priorities for flu vaccine distribution

December 20, 2007 Draft guidelines issued by the in November have established a series of tiers and categories for distribution of scarce vaccine in the event of. These guidelines give strong preference for emergency responders, military and national security personnel, and socially important occupations, such as top politicians, energy sector and communications personnel, bankers, and newborn infants. Distribution of vaccine to the elderly occupies a low priority, especially in the event of a severe pandemic with a case-fatality rate of 2% or more causing more than 1.8 million deaths. The scheme differs significantly from that proposed in Britain in 2005, which gave high priority to the elderly, noting that most of the deaths in recent years - ranging from 12,000 to 29,000 annually - were in elderly patients.

The plan is open to public comment under U.S. Federal Register guidelines until December 31.

Related news

 * "Britain unveils flu pandemic preparedness plan, buys 14m courses of treatment drug". Wikinews, March 1, 2005


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Talk:US Department of Health proposes priorities for flu vaccine distribution

Please reconsider the title ... first it can be misread to sound like there is a physical beating involved, second it seems to be sensationalistic and arbitrary to pick those two groups. --SVTCobra 16:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


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User talk:168.9.85.254

Hello, welcome to Wikinews. You created an article saying 'souljia boy needs to be on here asap'. I am not sure what you meant, but Wikipedia has an entry for Soulja Boy. Let me know if I can be of any assistance. --SVTCobra 16:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

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Pakistani train derailment kills at least 56

December 19, 2007

Early this morning, an express passenger train (carrying about 700 passengers) derailed in Pakistan, leaving at least 56 dead and 150 more injured. At least ten of the carriages that comprised the service between Karachi and Lahore left the track and fell down an embankment, ripping them apart.

The disaster occurred some 250 miles north of Karachi at 2:00 a.m. PST (UTC+5). Pakistan Railways says it appears the derailment, which sent carriages hurtling into a waterlogged field adjacent to the track, was caused by extreme cold, which in turn caused a welded joint in the track to contract and split. Brigadier Nazhar Jamil, head of an army rescue team presently on-site, said he believed another possible cause was excessive speed in combination with inadequate maintenance.

State-run PTV said that Asad Saeed, General Manager of Pakistan Railways, had told them "A welded track joint broke. Tracks shrink in winter. There are many forces on the track and sometimes this joint breaks." He went on to rule out terrorist involvement and point out that the tracks are old and the government is midway through a programme to replace them. He said other services were not affected.

The violence of the crash ripped carriages apart, leaving wreckage strewn across the surrounding area. A segment of one of the rails was torn up, and the engine came to rest approximately a mile away from the initial site of the derailment. Sources vary on how many carriages were involved. The Times says ten carriages derailed and does not state the total number in the train, while Sky News reports that twelve of the train's sixteen carriages derailed and Xinhua gives the numbers as fifteen cars of a seventeen-car train. Reports on passenger numbers also vary, with the train carrying between 700 and 900 passengers, mostly returning from the Islamic holiday of Eid ul-Adha.

Jamil told reporters that many lives were saved by local residents, who rushed many of the wounded to hospital using rickshaws, scooters and donkey-drawn carts. Army engineers had to free the last survivors from the wreckage using two rail-mounted cranes and cutting equipment. One of the last to be rescued was a three-year-old girl, who's foot was seriously injured.

Police and soldiers carried the wounded to waiting ambulances, which rushed them to three nearby hospitals.

President Pervez Musharraf has ordered an immediate inquiry, which will be conducted by Pakistan Railways. The inquiry will examine whether any responsibility must be taken by any of those involved, as well as ways of preventing another similar disaster from taking place.

Fatal train accidents occur with some regularity in Pakistan, a problem frequently exacerbated by overcrowding. This is the worst accident since the Ghotki rail crash in 2005. Over 120 people were then killed as the Karachi Express—the same service as in this accident—hit a train that had broken down from behind; the wreckage from both these trains was then struck by a third passenger express. The driver of the Karachi Express had misread a signal.