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User talk:Plenty

Welcome
Hi Plenty!

That was a great article you started... I've rarely laughed so hard. However, it clearly falls under the "Obvious hoax or spoof", so it was speedy deleted. It has been preserved, in the last version, on the Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense for posterity, in case you want to show your friends.

Thanks for your contribution! and welcome to the community - Amgine/talk 06:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks, I'm glad someone enjoyed it. As I've described here, I actually hoped that despite its initial spoofy quality, it would get transformed by the community into something genuinely NPOV and publishable. (I like this version -- did you write that yourself or take it from a later, edited version of my original article that I never saw?) So, I was surprised to see you'd deleted it. If you can retrieve its history (and its discussion page) for posterity, please do! Plenty 21:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

 * The article in its condition at the BJAODN is where members of the community had brought it, foremost among them being bryce I believe. The article's history and discussion page are deleted, and for good reasons. However, Wikinews does have an undeletion guideline which you could follow up on, especially as a candidate for temporary undeletion.
 * Again, I haven't read with any specific depth this article, but there are a few things which strike me that you haven't considered in your arguments.
 * The vast majority of published news articles are taken from the wires. With the exception of a few large newspapers, most papers produce less than half-a-dozen original articles per day. For wikinews, even with the use of external sources on which to base articles, to rewrite as many as we do is amazing since absolutly no one gets anything out of it; not even byline recognition.
 * One of the primary benefits of Wikinews is the archives. Wikinews articles are supposed to be archived, protected, after two weeks. This is to preserve an historic record of what was known about an event at a given time. English Wikipedia has hundreds of links already to Wikinews articles, and this number will continue to grow as the archives develop into a useful collection of source material. Online news sources rarely or never offer free achive access. In this way we help with the verifiability of the 'pedia, just as we use the 'pedia as a way to add depth to our articles.
 * An area of interest on Wikinews is the support of local news. It is my opinion that this will become the primary niche for Wikinews, covering local events in a way only local people can. You will notice that Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA is heavily represented in the original reporting, because we have an active contributor in the region; we need two or three people like him to cover his town adequately. From such local coverage we can build a larger network which is able to manage international news simply because we will have reporters present.
 * Finally, we don't need to justify our existence. No one needs to read here, or contribute here, or anything else. The fact you feel we must only shows we don't meet *your* interests. And the only way to do so is if you start to cover the stories in the way you think they should be covered, and work with the community to expand that coverage. It's a community project, and will develop in the directions, and interests, of the community. Maybe it will grow into something you will respect. Maybe not.
 * Hope I haven't bored you with my essay; I seem to have gotten rather long-winded.

 * Not at all. All excellent points. I can see how, over time, if Wikinews develops several local reporters covering events in each city around the world, producing thousands of locally relevant stories a day, it could become a uniquely valuable resource. From that perspective, Wikinews is still in its infancy, and I should let it alone and give it time to mature.

 * I've watched with amazement as Wikipedia became something profoundly valuable in a short time, and it did not do that by copying information from previously existing encyclopedias, but mostly by people contributing about subjects they already personally knew about. So I was hoping Wikinews would become a similarly grass-roots kind of phenomenon that would do much more than just re-state, in perhaps a slightly more neutral manner, whatever the wire services are putting out. Maybe in a few more years, it will become just that.

 * I hadn't thought about the free archive aspect, and I would now agree that simply for that reason, "parroting" the wire stories is, while not of much interest to me as a reader, justified. (Incidentally, of course Wikinews doesn't have to justify itself, but I would assume that most Wikinews writers would like their efforts to be valued, so the question of justification is still important.) So, with that, I'll abandon my crusade for the hearts and minds of Wikinews reporters everywhere with an emphatic "nevermind" and I'll keep on hoping that Wikinews will continue to evolve into something better.

 * Thanks for the thoughtful dialogue! Plenty 00:45, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Regarding Wikipedia's early development, on the contrary, it *did* start off by largely copying other encyclopedias, or other online sources. In fact, *literally* copying in a few cases: Project Gutenberg had the 'A' volume of the 1911 Britannica (as public domain), and in Wikipedia's first year, I started literally cut and pasted them in. See Proposal for an Encyclopedian Recycling Endeavor. Work on this continued beyond just 'A' (see 1911_Encyclopædia_Britannica. Of course, this only represents a fraction of the total material in Wikipedia but it demonstrates that Wikipedia was not made from a blank sheet of paper, but heavily leveraged external work.  ;-)

For WikiNews, I would strongly suggest that you *NOT* "let it alone and give it time to mature". I was one of many in Wikipedia when it started up, but I think that the ideas I shared and the work I did played a role in helping it become more successful faster than it would, without my help. Sometimes you think, "Hey, I'm just one guy, what difference would it make for me to be involved," but in reality one person can have a big impact. I especially love new projects because your one person's worth of work can inspire ten other people to get involved; because of your work really early on in a project, you can help snowball it into something massive a few years along. I think I copied no more than about 20 articles, but I guess I primed the pump, because hundreds more have been added since then. It doesn't always happen that way (most online projects fail), but when it does happen it's something to be very proud of.

Plenty, you seem to have a strong passion for seeing original reporting in WikiNews. I doubt there's anyone here that won't think that's an excellent principle. You're exactly right that there isn't enough of it currently, though. It's entirely possible that on the path WikiNews is on currently, it may never develop much of a talent for original reporting. But this is exactly the type of thing where one passionate person could 'prime the pump' and give the whole project a major course adjustment. One guy doing original reporting right now, and demonstrating how to do it well, and working out good techniques, could result in original reporting becoming WikiNews' prime strength in a few years.

There's a lot of ways to get an online project to accept a new idea and to adopt it as a standard practice. The absolute *best* approach, that works most reliably, is to "lead by doing". You see this philosophy echoed in various open source projects, in mantras like, "Patch first, ask questions later", "Be bold in updating", "send in a patch", "pick up a shovel", etc. By putting the idea into practice, you achieve several things: First, you demonstrate just how serious you are and how much you believe in the idea. Second, the idea gets implemented, even if only on a small scale. Third, you give people something they can simply copy and reproduce (copying is so much easier than figuring things out yourself!) And fourth, your point can get proven in practice, which is much more convincing than proving it in concept.

Look at any wildly successful open source project and I'll bet you see some variation of the above practice in play. ;-)

Plenty, give some thought to ways you could 'prime the pump' for original reporting. Make it seem very cool and interesting, show that it's fun to do, and make it easy to imitate, and I bet others will follow along and do similar. BryceHarrington 20:09, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Hurricane Adrian strikes Central America Thursday night

New Article?
I'm still trying to figure out the Wikinews way of doing things, but shouldn't this article have been split a bit chronologically? I had expected the "Adrian reaches hurricane-strength, will strike Central America tonight" article to be supplanted by a new article on the hurricane making landfall, not that it would be moved and a transformation to meet the new news begun. -- Cyrius 06:46, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

New articles
Yes, a new article should have been created. In the future, if you see new developments, feel free to create a new article, linked on the Template:Developing stories, for new information or different angles/elements. - Amgine/talk 06:48, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Our own research?
The article states:

Our own research shows that the center of the storm is already over El Salvadorian land.

Who is the 'our' mentioned? I've checked the sources as far as I'm able but don't speak Spanish. Laura Thomson 16:51, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

 * I think I know who added that section. Will try to find out. - Amgine/talk 16:56, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
 * The contributor was NGerda, who was tracking the satellite photos as the center crossed the shoreline. NHC hadn't made the announcement at the time he needed to record the Audio Wikinews segment, and since he'd been doing the research he used that sentence. Hope that answers the question. - Amgine/talk 04:50, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

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Computer giants attack Aussie CSIRO's WLAN patent

May 20, 2005

Six of the world's largest computer companies are seeking to have a patent held by the Australian Government's Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO) revoked. Microsoft, Dell, Hewlett Packard, Intel, Apple and Netgear are taking legal action against the CSIRO to have its U.S. patent broken.

In 1996, the CSIRO developed technology to allow computers to be networked together wirelessly. The technology is now built in to most laptop computers and manufacturers currently pay the CSIRO a licence fee to use it.

According to CSIRO Chief Executive Dr Geoff Garrett, the system enables the speed of Wireless Local Area Network (WLAN) to be increased by a factor of five.

This isn't the first time that the CSIRO has been involved in legal action surrounding this patent: in February 2005, it commenced legal action in the United States against Buffalo Technology, a Japanese-owned company, which had ended negotiations with CSIRO about obtaining a licence.

The Australian Government's research arm has announced that it will fight the legal action to protect its intellectual property, the income of which it uses to fund its research. It has come under increasing pressure following the Australian Government's cutting its funding in 2003, which has only been recently restored.

"As part of our business we create high quality intellectual property and we are prepared to defend it," Garrett said.

"We actively encourage the utilisation of the results of research in industry and communities, both nationally and globally, and any royalty income will be reinvested in further research."

The patent in question is U.S. Patent 5,487,069 Wireless LAN.

The case also raises issues about the recent signing of a Free Trade Agreement between Australia and the United States. Per the agreement, Australia plans to introduce American-style intellectual property law.


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May 20, 2005

 * Marburg virus outbreak in Angola claims over 300 lives
 * Illegal version of Star Wars III hits the internet hours after world-premiere
 * FCC requires VoIP providers to have 911 service
 * Adrian dissipates, producing heavy rains
 * IDA Ireland opens Shanghai office
 * Red Cross reveals it told U.S. officials about Koran disrespect on multiple occasions
 * Australia prepares to return Afghan detainees
 * Computer giants attack Aussie CSIRO's WLAN patent

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May 21, 2005

 * L.A. elects Latino Mayor
 * Marburg virus outbreak in Angola claims over 300 lives
 * Cuban dissidents hold rare public meeting

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May 22, 2005

 * Mayors back global warming pact
 * Storms lash northern New Zealand
 * BBC prepared for news blackout as staff strike
 * Restrictions imposed in China textile trade with U.S.
 * Venture capital investment in Ireland soars by 35%
 * Mongolia's ex-communists ahead going into Sunday's election
 * Endangered cow cloned in Brazil
 * Greece wins 2005 Eurovision song contest
 * Martin claims victory in Charlotte

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Illegal version of Star Wars III hits the internet hours after world-premiere

May 20, 2005

Hours after the premiere, files purporting to be computer-viewable copies of the movie Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith were available on internet filesharing networks.

The film, which is one of the years most eagerly anticipated, has already been downloaded by over 16,000 people through the BitTorrent file-sharing network. Some torrent downloaders reported being able to download the movie at "DVD-quality" as early as 11pm Eastern on May 18th, an hour before the US premiere. The versions available thus far are however "workprint copies." As such these copies have a large time indicator on the top of the screen.

Although Lucasfilm has not yet commented on the issue, the Motion Picture Association of America has condemned it, telling the media, "There is no better example of how theft dims the magic of the movies for everyone than this report today regarding BitTorrent providing users with illegal copies of 'Revenge of the Sith.'"

It should be noted that the Bit Torrent network, by design, does not provide files itself. It only allows computers using it's program to form connections with other Bit Torrent computers on the internet to provide files on each individual computer. Thus the MPAA's statement of "BitTorrent providing users with illegal copies of 'Revenge of the Sith'" is factually incorrect.

Despite the downloading, the latest Star Wars movie grossed a record breaking $50 million dollars it first day.


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Australia prepares to return Afghan detainees

May 20, 2005

Australia is preparing to send 19 Afghan nationals back to their country of origin under a new agreement with Afghanistan. The Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) offers AU$2,000 per individual and up to AU$10,000 per family, along with travel and other accommodations, for the detainees to voluntarily return. Failing that, those Afghans found not to be refugees are liable to be deported.

Children overboard affair
The detainees were rescued in October 2001 by the Norwegian freighter MV Tampa from an overcrowded, sinking boat which was given the name Suspected Illegal Entry Vessel 4 (SIEV-4). Some senior cabinet members, including Prime Minister John Howard, claimed that the vessel's occupants deliberately tossed some of their children overboard to force their rescue.

Those claims appear to have solidified public support for their re-election on November 10, 2001 for being strong on the issue of border protection. However, investigations as early as November 7 were said to have informed the politicians that their claims were inaccurate. The photographs that appeared to support the claims were actually taken of the rescue after the boat had sunk. The claims were not withdrawn before the election, and the resulting controversy and subsequent investigations are known as the Children overboard affair.

Asylum seekers detained in Nauru
The boat's passengers were seeking political asylum in Australia from the conditions in Afghanistan as of 2001. Many of them were taken to mandatory detention on the island of Nauru in the Pacific, due to an Australian policy known as the Pacific solution.

In 2002, the Afghan government asked Australian authorities not to force deportation of Afghan refugees. Foreign Minister Abdulla Abdulla said that the changing conditions in Afghanistan at that time were not stable enough for the refugees to return.

Since then, the asylum-seekers have been in detention in Nauru while their situation has been investigated. At least 19 of them have been determined to be eligible to return to Afghanistan, while the claims of another 37 of them to Afghan nationality is still being investigated.

Along with the MOU signed May 17, Australia's Minister for Immigration Senator Vanstone announced that the Australian Government plans to provide US$4 million for a housing project for any returning Afghans. This new funding is "separate from the $110 million of development assistance provided by Australia since September 2001," according to Ms Vanstone's media release.

Questions surrounding DIMIA detention system
Jack Smit of Project SafeCom has complained repeatedly about the detaining of the Afghans and made various charges surrounding their detention and return. Most recently, Mr Smit is questioning the Department of Immigration and Multicultural and Indigenous Affairs  (DIMIA) decision-making process. One of its Refugee Review Tribunal members is Mirko Bagaric, of Deakin University.

Mr Bagaric is said to have written an academic paper defending the use of torture, to be published in the The University of San Francisco Law Review in two weeks. Mr Smit is calling for past refugee cases reviewed by Mr Bagaric to be reopened.

"Refugee advocates right around Australia have expressed serious concerns about the views of Mr Mirko Bagaric, and demand that all RRT review cases of asylum claimants refused by Mr Bagaric be re-opened and re-assessed," said Mr Smit in a press release, which explained that his refugee advocacy office had been "inundated with phone calls from concerned advocates and supporters."

In the past, refugee advocates have criticised many aspects of the review process. One recently reported case is the accidental deportation of one Australian, Vivian Solon, to the Philippines. Another Australian, Cornelia Rau, was interned in the DIMIA detention system for nearly a year.

Most such cases are unlikely to be seen by the public for some time, if ever. According to lawyer David Manne, a director of the Refugee and Immigration Legal Centre, applicants feel unable to take legal action against the government until they have permanent Australian residency.

"There could well be a time bomb ticking here [for DIMIA], because there’s no doubt that there are quite a number of people who have suffered harm in relation to the system. The question is whether that will give rise to legal compensation," he said, in a recent interview with the ABC 'Law Report'.

DIMIA defends itself in previous statements given to 'The Law Report', saying it "takes seriously its non-refoulement obligations under international human rights treaties to which it is a party, and does not return people to a country if those obligations would be breached."

It claims to use "comprehensive and current country information", in a "robust" process that is "comprehensive, fair and transparent to any person who is entitled to obtain the personal details of applicants."

However, DIMIA concedes, "The scope for monitoring the circumstances of failed asylum seekers to depart Australia is limited and it is not widespread international practice for asylum countries to do this." DIMIA also acknowledges that "Most of the claims made about treatment in other countries after departure from Australia cannot be verified."

Ms Vanstone expressed confidence in the integrity of the Palmer Inquiry, which is looking into several recent DIMIA issues including the Cornelia Rau case, and is looking forward to its outcome.


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Red Cross reveals it told U.S. officials about Koran disrespect on multiple occasions

May 20, 2005

An International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) spokesman in revealed Wednesday it had documented and reported to the United States credible information concerning desecration of the Koran by Guantanamo Bay personnel between January 2002 and January 2003.

The ICRC rarely discloses publicly the contents of the confidential reports it gives to governments.

Simon Schorno, Red Cross spokesman, said the ICRC's concerns were mentioned multiple times to Pentagon officials in their reports.

ICRC delegates have had access to Guantanamo Bay detainees since 2002 and have compiled and corroborated independent reports from detainees about desecration of the Koran numerous times to Guantanamo Bay commanders and Pentagon officials, said Mr. Schorno. The ICRC representatives never observed any such incidents themselves, however.

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman, acknowledged that allegations were made on "rare occasions" but were uncorroborated.

Mr. Schorno disputed the Pentagon's denial saying, "All information we received were corroborated allegations." He added that, "We certainly corroborated mentions of the events by detainees themselves," and that "the ICRC considers such reports "very seriously, and very carefully, and [we] document everything."

The reports ceased after January 19, 2003, when the Defense Department issued three pages of guidelines on proper treatment of Korans, according to Mr. Schorno. On Wednesday Mr. Schorno gave credit for addressing the issue, saying, "We brought it up to the attention of the authorities, and it was followed through."

Some Muslim news agencies are still reacting to last week's Newsweek article alleging Korans had been thrown into Guantanamo Bay toilets. The Jordanian newspaper Al-Dustur reported that some Middle Eastern TV stations were broadcasting images of Korans shredded by US forces in one Iraqi mosque.

New York-based Human Rights Watch special counsel Reed Brody said Wednesday that the White House's response to Newsweek's report of the desecrations should be fully investigated and that "those who ordered or condoned this abuse, [should] not attack those who have tried to report on it."

However, Scott McClellan explained in a press conference last Tuesday that the White House is not trying to tell Newsweek what to print. McClellan said, "Look, this report caused serious damage to the image of the United States abroad. And Newsweek has said that they got it wrong. I think Newsweek recognizes the responsibility they have. We appreciate the step that they took by retracting the story. Now we would encourage them to move forward and do all that they can to help repair the damage that has been done by this report. And that's all I'm saying. But, no, you're absolutely right, it's not my position to get into telling people what they can and cannot report."


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But sometimes users submit an article from somewhere else, not realizing that Wikinews cannot keep copy-and-paste versions of articles which are published elsewhere under a restrictive copyright. An article created in this way is a copyright violation, and Wikinews policy is to erase these even if they are excellent article ideas.

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User talk:70.51.238.96

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User:Davidcannon

There are currently news reports in the English edition of Wikinews.

It's easier to catch me on Wikipedia, where I spend most of my time. The majority of my work there involves writing full-length articles about Fijian-related topics. Wikipedia does not exist in isolation, however; it belongs to a family of projects of which Wikinews is one of the most important, in my opinion. If I had more time, I'd contribute more often.

When Cspurrier told me at the end of June 2005 that Fiji was the "Country of the Week" and invited me to help out, I could not refuse. On 1 July, I created my first article: Fiji's War of the Ribbons.

As time and circumstances permit, I will be dropping in from time to time.

My articles

 * Fiji's War of the Ribbons (1 July 2005)
 * New Zealand's Lange dies (14 August 2005)
 * Chaudhry's son marries Tui Lau descendant in Fiji (20 November 2005)

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User talk:Davidcannon

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 * Nice article for a first attempt :-) Dan100 (Talk) 1 July 2005 15:31 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Wikinews, Great work on Fiji's War of the Ribbons. --Cspurrier 2 July 2005 16:17 (UTC)

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FCC requires VoIP providers to have 911 service

May 20, 2005 The U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) said May 19 that it will require VoIP providers to route 911 calls to the appropriate local dispatch center. Under this new regulation the dispatch center is also required to be provided with the caller's callback number and location.

With the exception of Rhode Island, most VoIP's 911 callers are delivered to the administrative offices of a public-safety answering point, instead of connecting directly to a standard 911 dispatcher. The resulting time delay was a consequence of the phone provider's refusal to give VoIP providers access to the 911 infrastructure. To comply with this new regulation the VoIP providers need the cooperation of the traditional phone providers. The FCC has not required the traditional phone providers to assist the VoIP providers with this, but a bill introduced in the House and Senate Wednesday would require them to provide the connection.

"The road to full compliance will not be easy, and the commission will almost certainly be called on to take further steps to bring it about, but we have begun the process," Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy said.

This new regulation comes after the death of a 3-month-old in Florida, partially due to delays in routing the call that was placed over a VoIP service.

"While they seem functionally the same, many [VoIP] callers find that they can't reach local emergency operators," said FCC Chairman Kevin Martin. "This situation is unacceptable. People have a reasonable expectation that when they dial 911, they are connected to the emergency operator."

This new regulation is expected to become final in 30 to 45 days. When it does, the companies will have 120 days to comply.

Cell phone makers have been required to install GPS chips in all phones. The chip is used the share the position of the phone to the nearest transmission tower in the event of an emergency. Newer cell phone models no longer have the option of turning off the location information sharing feature for emergencies. Location sharing for other services, such as a service that might report the nearest restaurant serving corned beef sandwiches when queried could be disabled, if that were the user's preference.

The effects of 911 location sharing on law enforcement remains to be seen. Fugitives might leave their cell phones turned on. An arrest on I-95 occurred earlier this year near Richmond, VA, when a Florida fugitive was captured by accessing the cell phone location.


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Adrian dissipates, producing heavy rains and mudslides

May 20, 2005

Hurricane Adrian appears to be dissipating over Honduras, but is still providing heavy rainfall to the region. At 8 a.m. PDT, the center of now Tropical Depression Adrian was dissipating at 15.0° N, 87.5°W and was inland over western Honduras. It is moving toward the northeast at about 17 mph (28 km/h) with maximum sustained winds of 30 mph (45 km/h).

The Salvadoran Comité de Emergencia Nacional (National Emergency Committee) reported that over 15,400 people were evacuated from high risk areas.

Tropical Depression Adrian is expected to produce an additional 4 to 6 inches of rainfall over Honduras over the next 24 hours, and mudslides are a major fear for residents. The National Hurricane Center has discontinued its public advisories for Adrian unless the storm regenerates.


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Talk:L.A. elects Latino Mayor

Copyright infringement
copyright infringement. copyright infringement.! booo hoooo!!! when will you realize that rules are not SET in stone! The money or legal factor shouldn't matter...

Counter argument: We need copyright infringment to uphold that people tell the truth, otherwise there would be a semi-choas of news reporting.

Well, shouldn't we make a system that is a little more loving, than dry and rational? I know it doesn't make sense right now because we are TOO rational but consider what would happen if we recieved news through higher densities of existence rather than this current 3 dimensional existnece. If we seek love we will know the REAL truth of all... please think about it, if you disagree PLEASE SAY SO! I don't mind being proven wrong or stupid at all. :)

 * It is true the laws are not set in stone, but it is unlikely the Berne Convention will be set aside for Wikinews, and the value of Wikinews as a community and as a news source is higher than the value of any single copyrighted story. It is extremely easy to rewrite an article, incorporating multiple sources and therefore a more complete description of events. It's just somewhat more difficult than copying and pasting.
 * It does not make sense to produce a news system which is not rational, which you cannot trust to be either accurate or interested in balanced reporting.
 * Please consider writing a new article, in your own words, regarding this important event in L.A. We'd really like to hear more about it. - Amgine/talk 17:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Reinstate my edit
The fact that the man attended an unaccredited law school and became the mayor is a remarkable fact missed by most of the media. 67.170.242.58 04:42, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
 * This article was protected based on Archive conventions -- whereby articles older than two weeks are protected in their current state for archival purposes. We're a bit behind, but getting there. Please contact me with questions. Surely, though, the school is accredited by some accrediting agency or institution (even if it's a fake agency). --Chiacomo (talk) 04:49, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

I visited the relevant FAQ page at PCL and find that you are quite correct -- they are not accredited. There are licensed by the state of California and their graduates are eligible to sit for the bar. Some graduates have gone on to become state commissioners, judges, etc. Very interesting. --Chiacomo (talk) 05:02, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

To the user that felt it extremely important to mention that his school is unaccredited
Whether or not the school is accredited or not, is irrelevant to this NEWS article. The article mentions the full name of the school, and anyone who would want to research the school has the full ability to do so. However to outright mention that he went to an "unaccredited" school is slander, whose sole intention is to put the man down, so that the general populace, reading this article would view him less favorably. People who would want to use this article as a springboard to view his credentials would be able to use the facts therein to find out that his school is not accredited. Then, in an OPINION article they can say how they feel about this, however in a NEWS article the tone should not be set to view anyone more negatively.
 * Any background details of the mayor-elect, especially educational background, is highly pertinent to an article essentially introducing a new politician. 67.170.242.58 05:18, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

That's exactly the reason why it mentions the full name of the school so like that anybody who wants can do the appropiate research and draw their own conclusions (like, for example what Chiacomo did)

"draw their own conclusions", I'm not sure what a name of a school reveals about it. Chiacomo was not prompted by reading the article to look into the school but rather a simple addition added by me that pointed out the mayor's unusual background. 67.170.242.58 06:54, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

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Audio Wikinews Special Reports.

Leukemia cases at California elementary school receive no Federal investigation

Australia tries another tack on Afghan asylum seekers

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User talk:206.9.76.250

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User talk:68.0.121.128

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User talk:168.143.113.49

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User talk:163.247.46.100

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User:Plenty/Wikinews parrots mainstream media, offers little original reporting

editorial This is roughly the article I created on May 19, 2005 Unfortunately, due to its "speedy deletion," some of ''its exact wording has been lost. If anyone has saved'' a copy of the original, please post it here.

Wikinews parrots mainstream media, offers little original reporting
May 19, 2005

In a new study, a Wikinews reader has determined that out of the 60 stories published by Wikinews in the past week (May 13 to 19), 58 of them (97%) essentially replicated the information found in various similar stories published by the mainstream global news media such as Retuers, ABC News, and the BBC, as well as various regional sources ranging from ITAR-TASS to the Sun News in Myrtle Beach, SC. Four of these 58 "regurgitated" stories did contain small amounts of original reporting in the form of added details, photos, or sound recordings.

Of the two "non-regurgitated" stories, one was essentially copying the information from a Canadian web site showing the results of a recent election there. Thus, only one story during the week consisted primarily of original reporting: an interview with someone who believes he recognizes a recently publicized missing person. This one story was, at least, amusing and original, though it hardly qualifies as news.

If one stipulates that for a news source to justify its existence as an independently valuable source of worthwhile news, it should provide original newsworthy content, then at least during the last week, Wikinews, after about 6 months of evolution, provided at most one item of sufficient novelty to justify itself.

This writer, for one, is disappointed in the lack of imagination shown by Wikinews reporters and editors thus far.


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User:Plenty/Humorous critique of Wikinews

I copied this from Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense, ''where it was placed by user Amgine. I don't know whether'' Amgine wrote this version or whether it was taken from a ''community-edited version of my original story.

Humorous critique of Wikinews
May 19, 2005

A controversy emerged on the Wikinews site today in a dispute regarding its purpose, and whether it contained sufficient original reporting to be a viable source of news. The controversy opened a passionate debate over what news is, and whether WikiNews' recent reporting offers sufficient value to the community.

Wikinews was founded as an outgrowth of the Wikipedia project, after it had been noticed that Wikipedia was finding success in including daily blurbs about things in the news. WikiNews was founded as an effort to capture that activity, towards the goal of becoming a useful source of "Neutral Point of View" (NPOV) news.

Unfortunately, the project had a slow start, and the activity on the site was limited; they found a heady challenge in generating news articles every day, and finding people to contribute was difficult. Yet the project was able to overcome these challenges. According to one WikiNews researcher, the project generated 60 stories over the past week (May 13 to 19).

Despite the improvement in volume of news, the researcher commented that much of that volume seems to simply replicate information found in stories published by other news media such as Reuters, ABC News, and the BBC, as well as various regional sources ranging from ITAR-TASS to the Sun News in Myrtle Beach, SC. Of the 60 articles reviewed, the researcher judged 1 as original reporting, 1 as original reporting of already published material, 4 as partially original, and the remaining 54 as just restatements of other news reports.

The original report was the article, Exclusive Interview: Piano Man is possibly a British actor, an interview with someone who believes he recognizes a recently publicized missing person.

The controversy arose when the reporter posted his study as a news article on WikiNews. Several in the WikiNews community immediately disputed the validity of the report as a news item, opening a passionate discussion on the article's "talk" page. At issue was a stipulation made by the researcher that WikiNews' would only be valuable if it had a larger proportion of original reporting. Several editors felt this stipulation represented a non-neutral opinion that violated the sites' policies, some found it unfair or inaccurate, and others felt the whole issue was not really newsworthy.

It is routine for news organizations to use stories derived from articles originally reported through other sources. Few news organizations have the resources and access to conduct original reporting on all news that they wish to present to their readers. Organizations such as Reuters and AP Newswire were founded with exactly this need in mind.

One of WikiNews' founding purposes was to provide a new outlet for reporting these stories that would allow the community to use the wiki process to combine facts from multiple sources and to ensure the reporting is done in a fair and neutral manner. Original reporting is also a stated goal of the project, but no policy exists regarding what proportion of stories should be original reports.

Sources
 * "Unpublished report" by user 'Plenty'
 * http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Wikinews_needs_you%21


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IDA Ireland opens Shanghai office

May 20, 2005 Ireland's highly successful inward investment body, IDA Ireland, has announced that it is to open an office in Shanghai, China. The office will be aimed at attracting Chinese multinationals to invest in Ireland.

IDA Ireland was founded in 1949 as the Industrial Development Authority, however it underwent serious restructuring in 1994 when it became the Industrial Development Agency (Ireland). Since 1994 it has attracted several billion euro worth of foreign direct investment to Ireland and has attracted big names such as Google, eBay, Amazon.com, Dell, Microsoft and Intel to set up operations in Ireland.

In 2003 IDA-supported companies spent €14.7 billion in the Irish economy and directly employed several thousand. It is noted that despite attracting over 500 US multinational corporations to Ireland, the IDA have to date only attracted one Chinese company, Huawei Technologies.

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User talk:70.146.109.226

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User:Plenty

Greetings, intrepid reporters!

On May 19, 2005, I posted an article which some thought was a joke or a hoax but which I (while admittedly also feeling mischievious) intended as a serious criticism/observation about the current state of Wikinews.

It was quickly marked as:
 * not NPOV (which--in its original state--I agree it wasn't, though I was hoping that an open, wiki-like process would transform it into something publishable),
 * misleading (which I don't believe it is), and
 * poorly sourced (though I would claim its source is at least as valid as the sources of 95% of Wikinews stories).

I would also concede that it might not meet a standard of newsworthiness, though there are many mainstream/Wikinews stories which I don't see as meeting that standard either.

The article was renamed, first to User claims Wikinews parrots mainstream media, offers little original reporting and then to Study shows Wikinews active, but needs more original reporting. Unfortunately, I tuned out before seeing what happened to it after that. (If anyone saved later versions, please post them here!) A few hours later, it was deleted. I'm not surprised by any of this, except that I really did hope it might be transofrmed into something genuinely NPOV that could be published.

If anyone is interested, back in the mists of time, in November 2004, when Wikinews had barely sprouted, I was one of several people who tried to steer it in another direction. Plenty 19:34, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:68.100.130.21

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Marburg virus outbreak in Angola claims over 300 lives

May 20, 2005

The World Health Organization (WHO) announced Wednesday that an outbreak of viral hemorrhagic fever, caused by Marburg virus, in Angola has claimed the lives of 311 Angolans. The outburst can be traced back to October 2004. The great majority of cases have originated in Uige Province. WHO estimates that 75% of the cases have occurred in children under the age of 5 years old.

From the WHO:
 * 'Marburg virus disease has no vaccine or curative treatment, and can be rapidly fatal. In the present outbreak, most deaths have occurred between 3 to 7 days following the onset of symptoms. Past outbreaks indicate that close contact with bodily fluids of infected people, as may occur in health care settings or during burial practices, increases the risk of infection.'

This is the largest recorded outbreak of Marburg viral hemorrhagic fever in history.

The risk to international travelers is low, according to the WHO, because the disease requires close personal contact to be transmitted.


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Talk:Australia prepares to return Afghan detainees

...you're kidding right? This is a rant, not a news article.

This article has POV issues. Compare to the Wikipedia article on the Children overboard affair which has a more NPOV treatment of the same issues. DouglasGreen 01:51, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

 * so I'm not the only one? I was starting think this was wikiblog and I'm the only one that noticed.

No, not at all, I appreciate the comments. Thanks for your keen oversight, anonymous critic. :-)

I waited overnight but no one spoke up, so I significantly rewrote the article myself. It should now be up to Wikinews standards. DouglasGreen 18:24, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Typo
editprotected 'to to' => 'to' Van der Hoorn (talk) 15:28, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

✅ R .T . 20:38, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


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Cuban dissidents hold rare public meeting

May 21, 2005

A public meeting by Cuban dissidents was held in a rare celebration of Cuba's Independence Day on Friday. Although Cuban President Fidel Castro had expelled and refused entry to several European observers before the meeting started, police did not crack down on the peaceful protests by nearly 200 people. Called the "Assembly to Promote Civil Society", the meeting was to promote peaceful change and lay groundwork to introduce democracy in Cuba. The meeting was planned by several leading Cuban dissidents and former prisoners including Martha Beatriz Roque Cabello, René Gómez Manzano and Félix Bonne Carcassés. Controversy accompanied the event, and many dissidents did not attend because invitations to some Miami, Florida groups were thought to promote violent reform.

Castro expressed disapproval of the event, complaining of opposition groups that are bankrolled by the United States. Previous meetings, planned as long ago as Concilio Cubano in 1996, were cancelled due to government crackdowns, arrests, and the shooting down of two planes.

Fidel Castro, speaking to CNN about the rally said, "Those who attack us don't represent more than a fraction of 1 percent. ... You [the foreign news media] have helped create them."

This is the 103rd anniversary of Cuba's independence, a day that was observed with celebration until Castro took over in 1959 and introduced the rule of authoritarian Communism.

U.S. President George W. Bush sent his greetings to those celebrating Cuban Independence in an videotaped message. Bush said, "As we observe Cuba's independence today, we look forward to the day when Cuba is free, and my Administration supports efforts to hasten that day's coming. The tide of freedom is spreading across the globe, and it will reach Cuban shores."

The U.S. Senate also passed a resolution on Tuesday "extending its support and solidarity to the participants of the historic meeting", and calling for "the international community to support the assembly and its mission to bring democracy and human rights to Cuba."

The planned two-day meeting is being held openly in a garden belonging to one of the organizers on the outskirts of Havana. While ostensibly no Cuban government officers monitored the event, "government spies do regularly infiltrate dissident meetings," CNN claimed.


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Audio Wikinews transcript – 2005 05 21 – 0600 UTC
As reported by Nicholas Gerda

May 21, 2005. This is Wikinews.

Breaking News
Marburg virus outbreak in Angola claims over 300 lives The World Health Organization (WHO) announced Wednesday that an outbreak of viral hemorrhagic fever by way of Marburg virus in Angola has claimed the lives of 311 Angolans. The outburst can be traced back to October 2004. The great majority of cases have originated in the Uige Province, and WHO estimates that 75% of the cases have occurred in children under the age of 5 years old. From the WHO: ''Marburg virus disease has no vaccine or curative treatment, and can be rapidly fatal. In the present outbreak, most deaths have occurred between 3 to 7 days following the onset of symptoms. Past outbreaks indicate that close contact with bodily fluids of infected people, as may occur in health care settings or during burial practices, increases the risk of infection.'' This is the largest recoded outbreak of Marburg viral hemorrhagic fever in history.

Headlines
Cuban dissidents hold rare public meeting A public meeting by Cuban dissidents was held in a rare celebration of Cuba's Independence Day on Friday. Although Cuban President Fidel Castro had expelled and refused entry to several European observers before the meeting started, police did not crack down on the peaceful proptests by nearly 200 people. Called the "Assembly to Promote Civil Society", the meeting was to promote peaceful change and lay groundwork to introduce democracy in Cuba. Planning for the meeting was done by several leading Cuban dissidents and former prisoners, including Martha Beatriz Roque Cabello, René Gómez Manzano and Félix Bonne Carcassés. Controversy accompanied the event, and many dissidents did not attend because invitations to some Miami, Florida groups were thought to promote violent reform. Castro expressed disapproval of the event, complaining of opposition groups that are bankrolled by the United States. Previous meetings, planned as long ago as Concilio Cubano in 1996, were cancelled due to government crackdowns, arrests, and the shooting down of two planes. Fidel Castro, speaking to CNN about the rally said, "Those who attack us don't represent more than a fraction of 1 percent. ... You [the foreign news media] have helped create them." This is the 103rd anniversary of Cuba's independence, a day that was observed with celebration until Castro took over in 1959 and introduced the rule of Communism. U.S. President George W. Bush sent his greetings to those celebrating Cuban Independence in an videotaped message. Bush said, "As we observe Cuba's independence today, we look forward to the day when Cuba is free, and my Administration supports efforts to hasten that day's coming. The tide of freedom is spreading across the globe, and it will reach Cuban shores." The U.S. Senate also passed a resolution on Tuesday "extending its support and solidarity to the participants of the historic meeting", and calling for "the international community to support the assembly and its mission to bring democracy and human rights to Cuba." The planned two-day meeting is being held openly in a garden belonging to one of the organizers on the outskirts of Havana. Cuban spies are probably on hand observing the action.

Lecturer in Spanish University fired for defending P2P networks In Valencia, Spain, teacher Jorge Cortell was fired for defending the use of Peer to Peer networks. He had been teaching the class Intellectual Property among other subjects at Polytechnic University of Valencia (UPV) for the last 5 years.

Wikipedia Current Events

 * In Canada, Prime Minister Paul Martin's Liberal government narrowly avoids collapse after the Speaker of the House of Commons breaks a tie vote on the federal budget, averting the predicted 39th Canadian federal election.
 * The death toll in the Marburg virus outbreak in Angola reaches 311.
 * Hurricane Adrian, the first storm of the 2005 Pacific hurricane season, dissipates over Honduras after becoming the first named tropical system to make landfall in El Salvador since 1997.
 * CSKA Moscow beat Sporting Lisbon 3-1 to become the first Russian football club to win the UEFA Cup.

Today in History provided by Wikipedia

 * 1674 - John Sobieski was elected by the szlachta to be King of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
 * 1881 - The American Red Cross was established by Clara Barton.
 * 1894 - The Manchester Ship Canal was officially opened, linking the city of Manchester to the Irish Sea.
 * 1927 - Aboard the Spirit of St. Louis, Charles Lindbergh completed the first solo non-stop transatlantic flight.
 * 1991 - Former Indian prime minister Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated by a female suicide bomber.

Today's fact provided by Wikipedia
Willi Münzenberg was known as "The Red Millionaire" because he combined high living with communist propaganda.

Thank you for joining us for today's segment. Join us again tomorrow for more headlines, news, facts, and anniversaries; and next week will have our very first Special Report.

I'm Nicholas Gerda.

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Talk:Results of the 2005 New Zealand General Election

How you can help on election day

 * Copy & paste the appropriate text from the list below, adding the word "gain", "lose", or "hold" between the parentheses, into the gain/lose/hold tables when a constituency declares its results. (Please use section editing.) As you do so:
 * Keep the table of totals up-to-date. (Increment each total as you go along. Don't paste in the totals from a source.  Different sources will have different totals, because they aren't synchronized with one another.  It is best, for the sake of self-consistency alone, if our totals reflect what our gain/lose/hold tables say.)
 * Watch interviews, speeches, and public statements. A set of quotations from prominent political figures helps to make this more than a bare set of statistics.  Aim for the same format as used at Pope John Paul II dies, including citing the interviewer if it is an interview.
 * Watch the reactions of the stock markets and of other countries.
 * Try and  for news and  for share market. --2mcm 21:07, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Party entries for copying and pasting

 * style="background:red; color:black;"|Labour
 * style="background:blue; color:white;"|National
 * style="background:grey; color:black;"|NZ First
 * style="background:cyan; color:black;"|ACT
 * style="background:pink; color:black;"|Destiny
 * style="background:green; color:white;"|Green
 * style="background:black; color:red;"|National Front
 * style="background:brown; color:white;"|Maori
 * style="background:lightgrey; color:black;"|Progressive
 * style="background:purple; color:white;"|United Future
 * style="background:yellow; color:black;"|WIN

Example
2mcm 21:00, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Hex colors
dark / light
 * Labour : #FF0000 / #FFDEDE
 * Nats : #0000FF / CDEEFF
 * NzFirst : #000000 / #7B7D7B

Use the bark color if using a custom forground and the light if using a custom background. 2mcm 20:54, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

How you can help before election day

 * Find and upload (to Commons) public domain images of the various party leaders (only upload "fair use" images here if there is no PD recourse), and add images here accordingly.
 * Complete the list of parties, that are fielding candidates, in the results by party table.
 * Cross-reference to per-constituency articles on Wikipedia for the detailed results. See Results of 2005 United Kingdom General Election for how to do this.

Need help with colors
Please choose colors to represent ALCP and republic, thanks.

Do we have some body to do this
Is somebody going to make ( in real time-ish ) A 2005 form of this ? --2mcm 07:23, 15 September 2005 (UTC) I could do it if pressed ..

Expected time of result
"The chief electoral officer’s target is to have 50% of polling place results available by 10pm on election night and 100% of polling place results available by 11.30pm." --http://elections.org.nz/elections/results.html -- 2mcm
 * All results are in. Hehe, Labour have won. 57 seats with Green-Progressive coalition, 60 with United Future. The most the Nats can garner is 51 with just ACT, 54 with UF. Take THAT, conservatives! I am happy. And, will there be some sort of analysis, commentary on the most likely government? --210.246.30.167 13:18, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Other Notes
Hi, I just got home from running the computers for this. There is no need for the mirror of the results. During the evening there were approximately 15 million hits on the public website, and it coped just fine... Also, for more detailed information (polling place level results) there are some XLS files in /ppstats/ and there is a whole tree of information under /media/ on the official site.


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Results of the 2005 New Zealand General Election

September 17, 2005

At 07:00 UTC today (19:00 NZST, local time), the polls closed in the New Zealand general election, 2005.

Labour- has won 50 seats and National Party has won 49 in the 122-member House of Representatives, which has increased by two (from 120) because the Maori Party won four electorate seats, more than its proportion of the party vote entitled it to (Called in MMP an overhang).

Neither the Labour-led coalition or the National Party have won sufficient seats to govern on their own, and will require the backing of other smaller parties to govern in a coalition.

There are 193,348 special votes still to be counted. Official results are expected to be announced on 1 October 2005.

Preliminary election results in depth
The preliminary results for the 2005 General Election are from the Chief Electoral Office website plus TV coverage (One, and TV3)

The official results will be released after inclusion of special votes and re-counting of all votes over the coming two weeks.


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Endangered cow cloned in Brazil

The Brazilian Agricultural Research Corporation, Embrapa, which is linked to the Brazilian Ministry of Agriculture, Livestock and Supply, has created two clones from a Junqueira cow. The Junqueira is an endangered species. It is estimated that there are less than 100 of them on Brazilian territory.

The cloned calves were created using cells from the ear of a nine year old cow. The first clone, called "Porã" was born on April 10, weighing 55 lbs. (25 kg), after 292 days of gestation. "Potira", the second cloned calf was born, weighing 64 lbs. (29 kg), on April 24, after a 290-day gestation period. The clones are healthy, and are being monitored by Embrapa researchers.

The breed Junqueira is popular for meat and milk production. In addition, they are used as work animals. The first cows were brought to Brazil by Spanish and Portuguese settlers. The breed developed inside São Paulo, during the 18th and 19th centuries. The cows' long horns are their most prominent identifying characteristic. The horns were originally used to make "berrante", a Brazilian instrument used by cowboys to call cattle.

The Embrapa researcher, Arthur da Silva Mariante said that the research will continue and that other wild animals threatened by extinction may also be cloned.

The clones are part of the doctorate thesis of Lílian Iguma, a member of the research team.

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Hi, Please get more involved on wiki-news; we need more gutsy contibutors. Neutralizer 19:42, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I get involved sometimes, when I have free time. Optimix 19:46, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

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