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Today on Wikinews : Madagascar’s leader Andry Rajoelina decides not to run in this years elections, Russia agrees to build a Turkish nuclear power plant, the UK does away with "the Bin Laden" problem, wikinews reporter Iain Macdonald interviews Dr Isabella Margara of Greece's Communist Party and in history, the Great Comet of 1861 makes its dazzling debut.

Today is Thursday, May 13th, 2010. I'm Dan Harlow and this is Wikinews.

Madagascar’s leader Andry Rajoelina ‘will not run in polls’ (0:40)
Andry Rajoelina, the leader of Madagascar, has announced that he will not run in elections due to be held later this year. He stated his reasons as an attempt to end the country’s political crisis.

The crisis began in early 2009 when Rajoelina ousted then president Marc Ravalomanana in a military coup on March 17th. After the coup, Norway and the US froze all non-humanitarian aid to Madagascar, whilst the African Union suspended Madagascar's membership. The South African Development Community (SADC) stated that it "completely rejected the legitimacy" of the new president.

After the coup, Rajoelina named Colonel Camille Albert Vital, a high-ranking army officer, as the country's new prime minister and announced he was abandoning a power-sharing deal with opposition leaders thus blocking Eugene Mangalaza who was supposed to become prime minister under the deal.

Rajoelina announced his decision on television saying he declares in the name of the superior interest of the nation and of the people, his decision not to stand as a candidate in the presidential elections for a fourth republic.

Madagascar had previously been ruled by France and today France's secretary of state for co-operation Alain Joyandet released a statement saying that Rajoelina's move "demonstrated a sense of responsibility".

Following a peaceful transfer of power in the African nation of Nigeria,

Airport named after late Nigerian President Umaru Yar’Adua (2:04)
Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan has announced plans to re-name Nigeria's Katsina Airport after late president Umaru Yar’Adua who died earlier this month after being ill for several months.

The announcement comes at the end of seven days of mourning for the late President. Tributes were paid by President Jonathan, Nigerian ministers and former President of Ghana, John Kufuor.

The airport is located in Katsine, Yar’Adua’s home state. A road in Abuja is also to be renamed after the late president.

In an agreement that "really looks rather impressive," according to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev,

Russia agrees to construct Turkish nuclear reactor (2:43)
the Russian and Turkish governments today signed a deal that would lead to Russia building a US$20 billion nuclear power plant in Turkey, that nation's first.

The plant will be built on the coast of the Mediterranean Sea, and construction will commence as soon as the deal is approved by both countries with the building process expected to take around seven years. The reactor will also be owned by Russia, which will hold "no less than a controlling stake," in the plant, according to Sergey Kiriyenko, the head of Rosatom, a Russian nuclear energy corporation.

The contract for the reactor was one of 20 signed by the two countries today, expected to result in around US$25 billion of Russian investment in Turkey. Other major contracts signed include projects to transport Russian oil and natural gas through Turkey to ports on the Mediterranean Sea. One such project is a major pipeline between the Turkish ports of Samsun on the Black Sea and Ceyhan on the Mediterranean Sea, built in conjunction with an oil refinery in Ceyhan.

In a press conference, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said that the agreements signal "a new page in our cooperation" and Turkish President Abdullah Gul added that the two countries "share a determination to increase the trade volume from a current US$38 billion to US$100 billion in five years."

Speaking of large sums of money,

Five hundred Euro note withdrawn from sale in UK (4:09)
currency exchange offices in the United Kingdom have today stopped the sale of €500 notes after an investigation by the Serious Organized Crime Agency (SOCA) concluded that up to 90% of the notes were being used by money launderers and other organized criminals. Ian Cruxton, deputy director of SOCA, said that the Euro had been chosen as the currency of choice by criminal gangs due to the large denomination of the notes. Cruxton added that criminals "are going to have to find other means of trying to move their money."

The note was introduced by the European Central Bank in 2002, when the currency itself officially entered into circulation. The notoriety of the note's criminal uses has earned it the nickname "the Bin Laden" after Al-Qaeda suspect Osama bin Laden. Since its introduction, there has been mounting international concern over criminal use of the large denomination note, which facilitates money laundering by allowing large concentrations of cash to be concealed in small spaces, for example, €20,000 can be concealed in a cigarette packet and £1 million in €500 notes weighs 2.2kg

When asked if criminal demand for the note would simply be displaced to other high-value notes, such as the €200 note (the next-highest denomination), Ian Cruxton said he believed that would be the case, however, with less of the €200 note in circulation, their movements would be easier to track than those of the €500.

Tourists returning to the UK from holidays in Europe will still be able to change their €500 notes for Sterling. However, the European Central Bank has no plans for a withdrawal of the note across the entire Eurozone, given the legitimate demand for it in countries such as Germany and Italy, where cash is used far more frequently than alternatives such as credit cards.

Recently, events in Greece have had a dramatic impact on the Euro, and the world economy at large, and so in our

KKE: Interview with the Greek Communist Party (6:06)
continuing coverage of the Greek financial crisis, wikinews reporter Iain Macdonald has performed an interview with Dr Isabella Margara, a London-based member of the Communist Party of Greece. In the interview, Margara sets out the communist response to current events in Greece as well as discussing the viability of a communist economy for the nation. She also hit back at Petros Tzomakas, a member of another Greek far-left party which criticized KKE in a previous wikinews exclusive interview.

Margara's interview comes amid tensions in cash-strapped Greece, where the government is introducing controversial austerity measures to try to ease the nation's debt-problem.

Finally, in the world of sport,

El Salvador suspended from world football by FIFA (6:55)
El Salvador has been suspended from competing in all world football internationals. FIFA, the governing body in football, suspended the Salvadorian Football Association after the Salvadorian government refused to recognize the local football officials that FIFA had appointed.

Last year, the head of the Salvadorian Football Association, Rodrigo Calvo, resigned so FIFA stepped in and appointed a special commission to reform the finances of the association. However, Salvadorian president Mauricio Funes refused to recognize the commission which FIFA saw as political interference.

The suspension affects next month’s World Cup in South Africa. Despite the national team not qualifying, three referees have been selected to participate in the tournament. If the suspension is not overturned by the start of the tournament, they will not be able to participate.

A meeting of an executive commission is due to take place on June 8th; should the El Salvadorian government not change its stance on the issue, the suspension will be finalized and El Salvador will remain suspended for the entire year until the FIFA congress meets again in June 2011.

Moving from current controversy in sport to historical controversy,

Canadian track and field coach Charlie Francis dies at age 61 (8:09)
Canadian track and field coach, Charlie Francis, has died at the age of 61 after a five year battle with cancer, according to his family.

Francis had worked with several athletes including disgraced runner Ben Johnson. Johnson won a gold medal at the 1988 Seoul Olympics but was later disqualified after testing positively for steroid use. During a national inquiry Francis admitted introducing Johnson to steroids.

Though Francis was banned for life by the national governing body of athletics in Canada, he briefly trained Tim Montgomery and Marion Jones for a time in 2003 and continued to believe that steroids are necessary in athletics.

On this day in history (8:56)
The Great Comet of 1861 is discovered by John Tebbutt of Windsor, New South Wales, Australia.

The comet of 1861 interacted with the Earth in an almost unprecedented way. For two days, when the comet was at its closest, the Earth was actually within the comet's tail, and streams of cometary material converging towards the distant nucleus could be seen. By day the comet's gas and dust even obscured the Sun.

By the middle of August the comet was no longer visible to the naked eye, but it was visible in telescopes until May 1862. Measurements made at the time observed it had an elliptical orbit with a period of about 400 years, which would indicate a previous appearance from about the middle of the 15th century, and will make a return in the 23rd century.

As of 1992 this Great Comet had traveled more than 100 AU from the Sun, making it even further away than dwarf planet Eris. It will come to aphelion, the point in which it is furthest from the sun, around 2063.

Comets have been observed since ancient times and have historically been considered bad omens but in reality, they are mostly a loose collections of ice, dust, and small rocky particles, ranging from a few hundred meters to tens of kilometers across. When a comet is close enough to the Sun, it displays a thin, fuzzy, temporary atmosphere called a coma, and sometimes also has a tail. These phenomenon are the result of the solar radiation and the solar wind interacting with the comet nucleus.

As of May 2009, there are a reported 3,648 known comets and this number is steadily increasing. However, this represents only a tiny fraction of the total potential comet population: the reservoir of comet-like bodies in the outer solar system may number one trillion. The number visible to the naked eye averages roughly one per year, though many of these are faint and unspectacular.

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Russian citizen jailed for sending military intelligence to US

May 14, 2010A Russian citizen identified as Gennady Sipachyov has been convicted of "state treason in the form of espionage" and was sentenced to four years in a Russian maximum-security prison.

According to the Russian intelligence agency Federal Security Service (FSB), Sipachyov was found guilty of giving the American government classified military maps, which can be used to target American missiles against targets in Russia more accurately. According to the FSB, the exchange of of information occurred in 2008, when Sipachyov emailed the documents to an organization called "East View Cartography," which was a cover for the intelligence service of the US military.

In its verdict, the court said that "The Pentagon required the maps in order to correct its guidance system for cruise missiles to increase the accuracy of targeting." While no motive was identified, and the trial was barred to the media, speculation has been that any motive involved was financial in nature.

Sipachyov, whose age and profession were not released, was convicted under Article 275 of Russia's criminal code, pertaining to "state treason in the form of espionage." Such a conviction ordinarily carries a sentence of 20 years, but according to the FSB, Sipachyov had "co-operated actively in the detection and investigation and also pointed to criminal activity by other individuals which helped prevent further damage to the security of Russia," leading to his sentence being reduced.

The incident has been seen as embarrassing for both the Russian and American governments, as the two countries are currently trying to repair their previously rocky relationship. Earlier this year, a treaty reducing the number of nuclear weapons each country held was signed. The US government has not commented on the ruling.

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Welcome
Tempodivalse [talk]  22:35, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

General notes
Hi there! Nice work here; it's always good to see another Wikipedian at Wikinews. Just a quick note, categories are a lot more important at Wikinews then at Wikipedia; it's the only way to find articles once they've been archived, so please try to add those before posting an article for review. Also, it's customary to add an infobox to the article; although this is much more open to the user's discretion. There's one for each of the main categories, like Economy and business or Politics and conflicts, etc. Other than that, good work, and welcome again. Cheers, C628 (talk) 00:37, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for the heads-up. I'll try to keep that in mind as I work on this one now!  — fetch ·  comms   00:42, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Violence in Bangkok prompts closure of US embassy in Thailand WN:SG compliance
Please note the following important points from the Style guide:

 * 1) All numbers of 20 or less must be spelt out in full
 * 2) All dates must be of the format Monthname daynumber, year.

When reviewing or writing articles please make sure you comply with these rules to ensure professional consistency in articles. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk' 16:08, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, no problem. Still trying to figure out the BrE/AmE/etc.  — fetch · comms  20:31, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * On a related note, why are the dates in the infoboxes DD MMMM YYYY instead?  — fetch · comms  20:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * That's the date format that Dynamic Page List (DPL) comes with; unfortunately there is no way to change that. Tempodivalse [talk]  21:09, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, OK. Thanks,  — fetch · comms  21:11, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Reviewer Promotion
I have promoted you to the Reviewer class, as I feel you can be trusted to mark revisions of articles as sighted (review). Please take a moment to read: If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask for help on my talk page, and thank you for contributing to Wikinews! Tempodivalse [talk]  21:17, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Flagged revisions
 * Reviewing articles
 * Peer review
 * Review
 * Reviewed article version
 * Flagged Revisions extension information, on MediaWiki

Help
Can you help me write good news articles? Regards--Sainsf :) 16:23, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * How do you mean? I'm not sure I can really help all that much--half of it is following the style guide, half keeping it neutral and everything else making sure the material follows reliable sources. If you aren't sure about how to write a good story, try reading something from a good source (like the BBC, al-Jazeera, the NYT, etc.) and seeing how they write.  — fetch · comms  17:05, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok, but please suggest me some tips on Style Guide.--Sainsf :) 06:12, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Please review this article of mine: 'Polish authorities arrest Israeli agent'. Regards.--Sainsf :) 10:41, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello there Fetchcomms! Please can you explain me how I can use userboxes on my User page? Regards --Sainsf :) 11:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not available much for a few weeks, but
 * Read the style guide because there's too much to explain.
 * If you add the review template, someone will review it.
 * Userboxen are stupid.
 * Link to your user page, user talk page, or both in your signature.
 *  — fetch · comms  17:45, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Election judging
Het Fetchcomms! Just wanted to let you know that we'll be judging the ArbCom election once you get back. You can see the judging page here. Benny the mascot (talk) 00:52, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Favicon
I've been meaning to ask... why are we using the Facebook favicon, rather than (say) this (Quaqe9's cc-nd version) or this (der-x-ide, unknown licensure) or any of the other knock-offs which are readily identifiable? -  Amgine | t 23:10, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * See our image's talk page. I've decided not to bother with reviving old arguments any more... if you want to propose it, go ahead.  — fetch · comms  23:20, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * <nod> Yep, that's about what I expected. Thanks for the information! -  Amgine | t 23:24, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Help for speeding article review process
Hi,

I don't know if this is available?

I am new here, it's my first article, and it took more than 24 hours, and you asked on the page-history page if it is old.

Now what? What should I do if the review process took too much and an editor like you marked it as old?

What will happen, and who should I contact?

Will it go unpublished because review was not possible to be on time?

I am sorry but I don't understand :(

Thanks Research2006 (talk) 23:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * As long as it is published within 72 hours (3 days) of the event happening, it's fine. I said "old?" because of the change I made—using the term "an old person" isn't very professional-sounding. No worries, but I would read the style guide for future reference.  — fetch · comms  23:30, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Great. alright.

But what about speeding or bringing to attention? in other words: how wikinews keep quality and time in balance? what if I need to speed it a little bit? contact someone? use a tool?

Thanks again for helping me out :)

Research2006 (talk)
 * To speed up writing, write faster :) To speed up the review, there's nothing really but to be patient. Generally, try to write newer stories, and not late ones, lest the review take too long and it turn to stale news.  — fetch · comms  00:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Workflow
No thanks to wrecking the /boot directory a couple of times this weekend, I've been preeocupied.

Managed to jot some notes related to workflow for articles.

I need some time to unwind now, and finish another attempt at writing a custom USB boot disk. But, there's various points where I think it should be possible to push really short submissions straight into some form of shorts/briefs; and, within an up-to-36hrs timeframe pull them back to full-blown articles if suitably expanded.

Previously I've had a go at hacking the Wikipedia article creation tool/templates into a usable state for here (somewhere on the enwn.net wiki IIRC). That would be particularly useful, and your redesign brought that to mind. A substantially different article layout would mean reworking the review gadget. In all honesty, I think the review gadget should be pushed back mostly server-side; that with some thought to, and an eye on, how FlaggedRevs may end up used on enWP. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk 21:59, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No problems, your notes are great (and I've been working to port all sorts of stuff over to a new computer and fix up the old one, too). I presume you mean the article wizard on enwp? I think that would indeed be a good idea for new users, though it would probably be shorter (and less tl;dr) here as we accept almost all "news". Personally, I don't think flaggedrevs will ever catch on much for enwp, as there is even significant opposition to its being used only for articles about living persons and so on, so I'm not sure how lucky we'll get with a more integrated system over here (although if it is simple enough, a dev could probably make it work after much community pushing). Just some thoughts; I'll post some more comments on your workflow section.  — fetch · comms  03:27, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Responded to some. And, yes, the article wizard would be a great tool to snarf. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk 05:12, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * RE: art. Wizard... Ideal beta/starting place for that - prepped Obits. Constrain people coming over from enWP to our layout & style where they're not going to hit time pressures more normally associated with this project. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk 05:19, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Former US Senator Ted Stevens and former NASA chief Sean O'Keefe aboard downed airplane
I've just unsighted this; I take it you sighted it by accident? Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Crap, yeah. The autosight gadget is still confusing me. Sorry!  — fetch · comms  17:09, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Also, let's remember when retitling that there were other people besides Stevens on that plane. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, but he's the central focus right now, and I think a title reflecting his newly confirmed death will be more clear on what we've got right now against other slower sources.  — fetch · comms  18:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

 * You can do that in the title and still mention the the others. *Person* amongst . Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I still wasn't sure if there were 8 or 9 aboard; I'm leaning toward 9 but a few sources still saying 8 or 9.  — fetch · comms  18:57, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Probably 8 as sources are saying 3 airlifte injured, 5 bodies. But the current title sounds like an obit for Mr Stevens. The news event is the plane crash, not Stevens's death. -  Amgine | t 19:00, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * How about "Former US Senator Ted Stevens among five killed in Alaska plane crash"?  — fetch · comms  19:13, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I like that; though I haven't checked the figures myself, the title works well. Go for it. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:15, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Stevens
You sure that's a better choice of photo? That one seems almost too informal. Aido2002 (talk) 19:43, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You wanted natural, I think that showing his full face is more important. Why not just put it back to the formal image instead?  — fetch · comms  19:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

I have a source
The second source of the article (the zeenews one) says all that I have updated. Actually, after the article was published, the source got updated. So I updated the article too. -- Srin  ivas  17:22, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * OK—it must have been slow updating where I am, because I didn't see the quote the first time. All good now, though.  — fetch · comms  18:55, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for bringing the date formatting guideline to my attention. Tyrol5 (talk) 23:27, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Deleted image?
Please follow up your request at Talk:US denies arrest of al-Masri, al-Qaeda in Iraq leader, as I am not sure what your wishes are here. --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:49, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

The "beta" article template
I am inclined to say I like where this is going, and per your comment, it's one step along a "roadmap" that nobody really has the time to put down in electrons.

For me, the next really important step is an "article wizard" that works with it. Then, it is how the review gadget handles it.

I may well be at severely reduced (even compared to now) involvement over the next few weeks. I'm doing additional research into a very large story I've been looking at for six+ months; I may be reduced to mobile access only; as, and when, I can get my phone charged up.

Yes, I'm completely ignoring the "do not put yourself in harm's way" advice; at the very least, I may be back in a month's time with some really interesting interview material. Lights go out on my fixed-line connection Monday evening. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Article wizard, I can probably get a beta of that set up in an hour or less right now. Review is up to Bawolff (who is also gone for a bit), and I'm not sure where Earwig is on his copyvio bot.  — fetch · comms  00:37, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Duplicates
We appear to be working on duplicate articles—here's mine, here's yours. Shall we merge mine to yours or yours to mine? Regards,  WackyWace talk 18:18, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Er, mine was published before I saw this, so I guess merge yours in.  — fetch · comms  21:19, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Gunman shoots doctor, then kills mother and self at Maryland hospital
When you make [ significant changes] to an article after publication, do not sight your own edits; leave them to be peer-reviewed by an uninvolved reviewer. Sighting them yourself is self-publication. --Pi zero (talk) 23:28, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Ugh, I thought I didn't. The auto-sight gadget is really annoying, I swear I clicked it off... Maybe I'll just turn that off.  — fetch · comms  12:36, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

quote punctuation
The original quote ended at a period/full stop, while the sentence in the article excerpts the quote in-line. Therefore I *think*, though I'm not certain on this (Chicago MoS just altered its stance on this, and I haven't cross-compared with other guides), the comma should be outside the quotes. -  Amgine | t 01:19, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * See, I never understand which to use. I've been told to use what the quote uses inside, everything inside, and everything outside. I have no clue which is right.  — fetch · comms  03:48, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

State Fair article
I try exceedingly hard to not get my knickers in a twist when an article gets rejected.....and I'm trying hard right now. I've edited the article for style, NPOV........please, honestly.......it's human interest for cripe's sake.....it's not whether or not the United Nations should be sold to Microsoft.................can you give a few inches here? Most of the guides here encourage writers to break the rules at times. I want to contribute in a meaningful way and I don't "own" anything here......but again, I'm not doing a re-write on The Taming of the Shrew......it's an article about the biggest fair in North America and the ridiculously-good food there.....that's it.Bddpaux (talk) 04:31, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah... see Brian McNeil's comments on the article talk page.  — fetch · comms  18:59, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

unreadable
not sure what you've done, but your user talk page comes up mostly black with no visible text on my mobile. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:25, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it has to do with the header. I'm not sure specifically what's wrong, though (my "mobile" is on iOS), other than you should probably not be editing off your phone :P  — fetch · comms  02:31, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Got to edit with what I, currently, have access to - a Nokia handset. I do use the secure interface though - just have to click the blue-on-black [edit] links to see what's there. ;-) --Brian McNeil / talk 02:32, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Brian, Is there a desktop validator or emulator for your browser that we can use to see through your eyes? --InfantGorilla (talk) 11:00, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Style Guide
OK.....read your bit about my need to read/adhere to the style guide.....I'm trying very hard to conform and am really learning that Wikinews is extremely NEWS-focused......that's cool......I want to contribute. Re: that article I just submittted about the Texas Commissioner of Agriculture.........were you referring to that? Can you give me some concrete specifics.....I know that doing so would be kind of time-consuming, but it would be well-received on my part. Honestly, I don't like dumping a chunk of time into an article that's going to get flushed. I tried hard to develop an inverted-pyramid model.....did I accomplish that? How about my tone, grammar, style? My refs could've maybe used a touch up here and there, admittedly.Bddpaux (talk) 13:22, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, where do I start? Don't bold anything in the article. Also, be sure to use the source template to format sources. Dates should always be "M, D, Y"-format (October 11–15, not "11th" and please use an endash, not a hyphen). When using ellipses, please use three, with a non-breaking space before the first period and a regular space after the last, with three total periods (stuff&nbsp;... more stuff). Using some links to Wikipedia articles ( article name ) is helpful for certain terms (Tyler), but always link to Wikinews pages (Texas, Barack Obama, etc.) when there are such pages here. Also, remember that Wikinews is not US-centered, so when talking about someone for the first time, use the full name ("US President Barack Obama"). Otherwise, watch out for regular grammar stuff: "... health of children in Texas, "Current ..." needs a colon there, not a comma. Other useful stuff: use an infobox (in this case, Template:Texas) and a relevant picture if available (the last bit is not overly important). Hope this helps,  — fetch · comms  03:05, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * it does...thank you.Bddpaux (talk) 13:32, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Apple Macbook & others
Hey, I was making the "skeleton" of the article. The numbers will be there too, when the article gets bigger, just not all in the same place. Feel free to add more factual details. Thanks, Ricmacas Ricmacas (talk) 19:52, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

TB
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MBA review
''"The Air lost momentum relatively soon after it was introduced," Ezra Gottheil, analyst for Technology Business Research, told InformationWeek. "Later, when the (13-inch) MacBook came out, it was left with a lot less distinction."'' Frome source #1. -  Amgine | t 04:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

 * And no, that's quite all right. Any of my edits you reverted can stay reverted. Have a good sleep. -  Amgine | t 04:16, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, I left that out in the merge as it was old.  — fetch · comms  04:17, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It's also the source for the 'rumors' statement. -  Amgine | t 04:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

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Why are font tags evil? -  Amgine | t 22:43, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * They're deprecated and see this and these hits. And they've finally been removed. (See what WP thinks). Anyway, it's not a big deal.  — fetch · comms  23:36, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

newsonnews.net
Please take no notice of newsonnews.net - it is a portal that reprints stories from other sources. It does not follow Wikinews internal rules on fact-checking, copyright or attribution. --InfantGorilla (talk) 20:25, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Got it, thanks for the note.  — fetch · comms  01:44, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * That'd be grounds to add it to the spam blacklist - just in case someone is foolish enough to try and use it as a source. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:37, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Done Continue thread at Water cooler/policy if necessary. --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:17, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

University of Missouri Hospital in lockdown after 'violent individual' attempts to gain access to building
I sighted this for you (as EPR had failed to). --Pi zero (talk) 01:29, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * So it isn't just my problem then. If just Bawolff could check EasyPeerReview's code... Diego Grez return fire 01:39, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It's been three different reviewers, and 5 of the last 8 articles published (that I know of). I did mention it to Bawolff.  --Pi zero (talk) 01:51, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ugh... I edit conflicted myself during the reiew and copyediting, and fixed the publish tag and stuff, but forgot to check if it was sighted. Stupid gadgets :P  — fetch · comms  03:22, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Chilean miner Edison Peña completes New York Marathon
Yet another anomaly. I found the last unpublished revision sighted, and the first published one unsighted. --Pi zero (talk) 02:30, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Sigh. Time to slap bawolff.  — fetch · comms  03:22, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Review please....
New mining accident in Copiapó, Chile kills two. Thanks! --Diego Grez return fire 17:44, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks again Fetch! Diego Grez return fire 17:57, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. Sorry to hear of another accident so soon.  — fetch · comms  18:55, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Bad form

 * I don't really care about WN any more, but you could have just left it on IRC or at least not templated me.  — fetch · comms  03:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Bah! The 'vandalism' appeals to me ;-) I'm already sick of the fundraiser, with some beardie with a scary stare and suspect smile. There were dozens of enWN-specific slogans proposed for this fundraiser, none even tried; hitting a vandal with a 'sarcastic' variation is just amusing. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:41, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
Thanks for the Christmas wishes, Merry Christmas to you too! Bobby122  Contact Me   (C)  23:11, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

 * Thank you for your Christmas wishes, and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.  Nascar <font color="Red">1996   23:12, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the Christmas card. I also hope you have a great Christmas and a happy New Year :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:56, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

 * Merry Christmas to you too. — Mike moral  ♪♫  01:13, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Same to you mate --RockerballAustralia c 23:18, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Thank you for the computer Christmas card. I would like to wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 00:01, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
and a Happy New Year. --Pi zero (talk) 00:25, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Happy Xmas
Different section heading purely for the sake of it. Have a good one. :) Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 01:11, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I'll save you from a cluttered talk page by not creating a new section. Thanks very much for the holiday wishes, I wish you and your family all the best this holiday season! Tyrol5 (talk) 17:33, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
...for reviewing my article/news entry. And, howd I do for my first entry here. T ofutwitch11 ''' <font color="Orange">(T ALK ) 01:10, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Not bad, although I would suggest using more comprehensive sources like, , , etc. Personally, I prefer taking a bit more time to write a fleshed out article, but yours is good. The issue is, policy is not to significantly change the content of articles (i.e., no new updates) a day or so after they're published, but WN isn't staffed like WP, so writing update articles a few days after something happens and getting them reviewed takes extra time. I can only suggest familiarizing yourself with the style guide, getting acquainted to the review process and other policies that differ from WP, and then decide if you really want to stay. The environment is different from that of WP, the active community is much smaller, and sometimes you have to rush or work extra hard to churn out stories, just because there are not that many active users. It's fun, it gets boring sometimes, and it's ... meh. It's just different.  — fetch · comms  01:27, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Right, and I understand. WP is always there, but WN seems like something interesting, at least there is not so much drama like on WP....it doesn't stop there. T ofutwitch11 ''' <font color="Orange">(T ALK ) 02:05, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * WN is less interesting at times, as less goes on, but it's more fun because writing is the central aspect. However, you'll realize that there is still drama, and it's even worse than WP at times—there was a ... rather big blowup some months ago ... meh. The drama is just less constant.  — fetch · comms  02:08, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Would you mind linking me to the blowup? I'd like to see how the drama compares.. T ofutwitch11 ''' <font color="Orange">(T ALK ) 02:16, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think that would be a good idea. Let's move forward with the news :)  — fetch · comms  01:06, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. T ofutwitch11 ''' <font color="Orange">(T ALK ) 15:03, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Regarding edit conflicts
Sorry Fetchcomms, I didn't realise that you were still working on it. (It looked like some other spam articles that I've been encountering recently [and I didn't realise that you were the author]). Sorry again, ~YTT T 03:41, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * And that's why we always check page histories :)  — fetch · comms  03:53, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

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Eight killed in Dagestan, Russia after ambush

May 14, 2010 At least eight people have been killed in the Russian province of Dagestan after an ambush by rebels, according to reports.

The incident occurred in the last night about 80  (50 ) south of Dagestan's capital, Makhachkala, when workers were being dispatched to fix a cell phone tower owned by the "Beeline" (Билайн) telecommunications company. The tower had earlier been damaged by bomb blasts by rebels. When driving up to the tower, the convoy of workers, accompanied by police officers, came under fire.

"According to preliminary information, an attack was made on a car with policemen. Eight people in the vehicle were killed. Other passengers received injuries or concussions," said a source with the security force of the Sergokalinsky district.

The Dagestan province frequently sees violence, blamed on gangs and separatists supposedly inspired by rebels in neighbouring Chechnya.


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Lol. If you can get the other side - the Greek government - to talk, I'm ready and willing to interview.

Remember, I interviewed America's leading neo-Nazi shortly after Obama was elected.


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Hello, !

This is Wikinews, a free news source. Wikinews is an experiment in citizen journalism, not an encyclopedia. You may be confusing us with our sister project Wikipedia. Your encyclopedic addition to Wikinews was deleted. Please add it to Wikipedia if it is relevant there. We would be happy to welcome you as a contributor to Wikinews! Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 13:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

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UK PM Cameron and Scottish First Minister Salmond meet in Edinburgh

May 15, 2010

Newly-appointed UK Prime Minister David Cameron today travelled north to Scotland to meet with the country's First Minister, Alex Salmond, for the first time since the general election. According to The Scotsman, around 200 noisy protesters greeted the new PM, forcing security staff to take him into the devolved parliament via a back door.

Cameron's Conservative Party have traditionally been unpopular in Scotland. They won just one out of 59 Scottish seats in the election, gaining around seventeen per cent of the vote. Prior to the meeting, Salmond told reporters he intended to press Cameron for greater Scottish financial independence from Westminster, including greater tax powers— something supported by the Liberal Democrats, the Conservatives' new coalition partners, and the Lib Dem Scottish Secretary and on which Cameron has promised a cross-party commission. Cameron had been seeking what he called a "fresh start" to restore ties between the parliaments at Westminster and Hollyrood. In addition to meeting the first minister, Cameron also met with the sixteen Conservatives currently sitting in the devolved Scottish Parliament.

After the meeting, both Salmond and Cameron agreed that the conversation had been "positive and constructive" and Cameron pledged a mutual "respect agenda" which would see him address the devolved Scottish parliament every year if invited and, in return, MSPs would appear before Commons committees in Westminster.

Cameron outlined part of his spending plans in preparation for an emergency budget, scheduled for fifty days after the election. He announced that no cuts would be made to the £30 billion annual budget for Scotland though that £6 billion in spending cuts would have to be made— something likely to cause controversy in Cameron's coalition government. However, both Cameron and Salmond anticipate that cuts may need to be made in subsequent years.

At a conference, Salmond said the talks had been "positive, constructive, detailed and substantive. I prefer a 'respect agenda' to a 'disrespect agenda'." He added that "[h]ow we judge the outcome of that agenda will be based on the policy options the Westminster government pursues, not just the words". At the same conference, Cameron told reporters "I believe, and Danny [Alexander] believes, that we should be pursuing the, and that that is a much greater degree of fiscal autonomy for Scotland."


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I am not an accountant. That sounds like an option some self-employed people and company directors. However, in return, you get to be a tax collector for the government: you have to collect 20% from all your customers.


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Events are moving quickly. Judging by the latest BBC News video, they have a camera and reporter in front of the army lines, and soldiers fired many rounds above the heads of demonstrators today.


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Fair enough, I guess I'm just not a fan of the communists or the fascists, they all result in the same thing anyways. One individual that rules with absolute power, I can't help it that I have an opinion. Wouldn't it make more sense to interview people from Greece with no political agendas, you know average citizens? I'm not criticizing this article, I'm just giving my feedback. I realize they probably aren't as willing or as interesting to do an interview on and are likely more difficult to contact but I'd prefer to listen to someone that actually only witnessing these events and not partaking in them. Besides, I'd assume most people already know where the communists stand on issues in general. Again I'm not bashing the article or the author, just giving my opinions and suggestions.


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Interim Kyrgyz government retakes buildings after violent protests

May 14, 2010 The interim government of Kyrgyzstan has regained control of several government offices after a day of violent clashes with supporters of former.

Backers of the ousted president took over regional government offices in, , and in the southern part of the country yesterday. Afterward, they released a statement calling for the reinstatement of Bakiyev's administration. The provisional government, led by, said later that it had managed to retake the offices in Batken after the demonstrators left the buildings there. The governor of Osh also managed to reclaim the buildings in his city with the aid of civilian government supporters.

Approximately 250 protesters were reported to have forced their way into government buildings in Osh yesterday morning, unstopped by local law enforcement officials. Up to 200 other Bakiyev supporters, most of whom were women, managed to seize administration buildings in Jalal-Abad, and were also untouched by police.

A group of 4,000 pro-government citizens approached the occupied buildings in Jalal-Abad, but was quickly dispersed when gunfire was heard. Hospitals in the city reported receiving 37 people wounded in the incident, and at least one person has died. A group loyal to Bakiyev later said that they had 25,000 supporters to march into, the capital of Kyrgyzstan. The Kyrgyz government said that they would use counter-protests, rather than police forces, to combat the demonstrators.


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User talk:Gopher65/Archive 3

Typos in Page
should i report them to you or just to the Talk page? Satanism:_An_interview_with_Church_of_Satan_High_Priest_Peter_Gilmore I posted to the talk page also.Self-ref (talk)

Thanks
For taking care of all those editprotected requests! – Juliancolton  | Talk 01:43, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Pornopedia
Regarding your comment to the pornopedia proposal, I just wanted to present you the project we are working on and ask your opinion. We would be glad to collaborate with WikiMedia Foundation. As we understand that it is difficult to reach such agreement of collaboration we will continue with our project hoping to find a common space in the near future. Visit Pornopedia and give me feedback, please!--Biris (talk) 11:18, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Saludos
Hi there, Gopher65. Thank you ever so much for the welcoming message. It DOES feel nice to be able to talk with a real person. I wanted to let you know that you may count on me if you ever need help with Spanish or French, or Portuguese. As to me, I hardly know my way around here yet, but I believe I can see the vision behind it, and seeing it, can't help but to be entranced... and get my hands on the dough! of course I'll make blunders, and I'll get kicked a little, or a lot, but I can laugh that out ;-) Saludos, Thamus (talk) 23:43, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Help request with unruly article.
Dear Gopher65, I didn't know I was going to be bothering you ever so frequently, but there you are. I spent the whole night writing this article, but it somehow took control and has turned into a three page monster, and there is still a couple of paragraphs to go... I wonder if you or someone, could take a look at it before I submit it. No, not worried about criticism, I never wrote journalism or anything much before so what the heck, it's more about procedure - being busy writing I did't have much time to read all the guidelines in detail... cheers.Thamus (talk) 11:21, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again!
thanks for the suggested reading, I will ask my brother to send something over from the States. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thamus (talk • contribs)

Reply from mikewhitcombe
Hi! Thanks for the encouragement. Have left a reply on the discussion page: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:194.72.160.60#Username —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mikewhitcombe (talk • contribs)

I've been lost!
I wrote the message below a hile ago, but only posted it now, because, being raw new in WP I have been gazing around all across everywhere and... well hope it's ok. A big heartfelt thanks for your ongoing support.

So I did submit the article on the bus accident. I should have asked for your helped though, or waited until I had a little more time to read the whole procedure about citations etc. I was worried that it was no longer news - the same reason why I declined to improve the last page, which I am not at all happy with, and to give it a proper conclusion. But its main purpose was achieved when I read your explanations of your copy editing and the commentary you left at the bottom of last page. You see, I brag about my English being near native, but I thought I needed a little sobering up as to the exact scope of near in that sentence. So I guess I won't be another Joseph Conrad soon, but it's still ok for me to translate, and perhaps do a little copy editing (grammar but not style). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thamus (talk • contribs)

Thanks
Thanks for welcoming me. --How may I serve you? Marshall Williams2  Talk Autographs Contribs 01:29, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your message re Tamil wikinews
Just wanted to thank you for your message re Tamil wikinews. --செல்வா (talk) 20:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC) (Selva)

Flopped article :(
Well, I had thought it would be indifferent but I am a little sad after all. The objections raised against it weren't many, really, but I thought they were indeed valid, I couldn't have argued and I wasn't able to meet the most important one (that it was not news anylonger).

I would be grateful if you could tell me what happens now. Did the article just get deleted or did it "go" somewere else? if so, can I know where? the reason for asking is, I might still want to use part of it for a different paper on urban popular culture I have had in my mind these many years. But I understand that by submiting it to wikinews I forfeit any rights - so, where do I stand when it gets deleted?

Regards, Thamus (talk) 05:13, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

A constellation
Gopher, I want to award you a constellation o' barnstars! if everyone in WP were like you, or if at least there were more than a few, wow, I wonder... Actually, I didn't want the article back, I'm sorry I put you out. I have the text, my only worry was to know wether I still could use it without being sued, or worse. I really do not mind if someone else does as long as I can too. And I want to thank you very specially for EXPLAINING things to me, instead of just pointing me to the links where everything is explained in legalese. You may have noticed that HUMAN interaccion is particularly important to me. And I hope this connection may hold, as I am almost ready to move from just touring around the WP world and droping by talk pages to actual contributions. Regards, Thamus (talk) 04:58, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

 * I think I ought to let you know that I don't expect to visit wikinews very often, for the same reason that I only read newspapers occasionally, and then I pick the oldest issue available. Nonetheless, I remain at your service whenever you want to have anything translated between the language pairs English-Spanish-Portuguese, any direction. French also if it's not too technical. My Spanish is better than my English and Portuguese is my native tongue. I imagine that if ever there is a request from your quarters, it will be urgent, so I will send you a phone number via e-mail later today. Saludos, Thamus (talk) 18:16, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Formula 1 Practice
Formula 1: Rubens Barrichello fastest in first practice for European GP Formula 1: Fernando Alonso sets the pace in Valencia second practice Hi Gopher, yes - please do merge the two articles, but would like to keep the content all there, including the times - perhaps arranged under headers? Suggested title: "Formula 1: Barrichello and Alonso top timesheets in European GP Practice Sessions" —Mikewhitcombe (talk) 14:37, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I apologise for archiving stuff when I shouldn'tve done. I was unaware of the rule. Rayboy8 (talk) 21:32, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Flood flag
Hi Gopher. I just wanted to suggest you use the flood flag to avoid flooding recent changes, since it looks like you're making a lot of repetitive edits. Cheers Tempodivalse [talk]  23:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Language templates
Hey Gopher. It is not a very good idea to categorize redirects to the actual language templates and let the language templates have no category, because uncategorized templates will appear on Special:UncategorizedTemplates. I recommend you categorize the actual templates and write a proper introduction, like was done for Polling templates. That also saves the creation of redirects nobody uses. Let me know your thoughts. Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk • contribs) 00:02, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Another FYI on templates... They're covered by FlaggedRevisions - you need to sight them. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know a name for a category; maybe "Abbreviated language templates" or something. Instead, you could also change the direction of the redirect. So e.g. nl would redirect to Dutch instead of the other way around, so you don't have to apply a category to a redirect and as a bonus you get the nice names. Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk • contribs) 00:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I always liked the two-letter templates. --SVTCobra 00:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey Gopher. Forgot to thank you yesterday for being so cooperative with the categorization stuff! :) Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk • contribs) 12:14, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, do you know why es drops off the line, like there's a line break in there? See Wikimania 2009 held in Buenos Aires for an example. Not sure if this is happening for all language templates. Cheers, --SVTCobra 02:04, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Target/Hit
I've no objection to your move, but the reason I chose "target" is because it seems a bit more interesting, and it is a legitimate term. – Juliancolton  | Talk 01:34, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Try not to hurt yourself with that new Gadget
Really, I mean.. It's not that hard to operate, I dont think... Anyways, I'll be adding more templates... now that bawolff has got it working. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 04:41, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Painless Translation Interface
Hi Gopher! I am glad to have a pretext to talk to you again. I have noticed your interest in a problem about which I have been thinking. Here is an excerpt of a conversation of mine with Rursus:

 * when you log into your editor/translator account, some features become visible that are not visible to the regular user. Like, somewhere at the top of the article page, you can at a glance know into which languages it's been translated, what is the status of the translation (done/in progress/revision wanted...). Then, you can click on the >translate< button, and your window splits in two, the article on the left half, the right half blank for you to type in, and a little corner somewhere at the top with the relevant dictionaries.

I wanted to interest him in teaching me whatever programming lingo I need to learn in order to make that functional, although of course it would be a lot faster if he developed the code himself ;)  .But what you suggest at the village pump is very much this, is it not? so I wanted to say that yesterday is not too soon to have it. It is a real necessity. As I told you already, I have some experience as a translator and false modesties apart, I believe I can do a pretty good job (bar limitations you know of). But things as they are now in wp are extremely off-putting for a new user. When you ask for help, people are well meaning, but they come up with jargon a new user shouldn't be expected to understand, like interwikilinks and such, and even some pages that are supposed to guide you seem to be written only for the ones who already know everything! ooof, sorry, needed a sympathetic hear to get that out of my chest. My positive imput, expanded:

after logging in as a translator, you get to see a translator toolbar at the top of every page. It contains:

 * 1.search box - you type the two characters that identify language (pt, en, fr...) and you are informed wether the page (article, document, talk...)
 * a)is already translated to that language,

 * b)requires collaboration-proofreading,

 * c)is being translated,

 * d)has a different but equivalent page (translation not necessary/partially necessary) or

 * e)it is not yet translated. For every output except c) and e) a link is given.

 * 2.translate button - As above, screen splits (I'd say two vertical halves, but horizontal is fine too). Forget about the dicionaries, though. One can look for them online.

In translate mode:

 * 3.List of wiki translators using that specific language pair, with a green button if they are online and choose to be available. Upon clicking on a name, a

 * 4.Chat box is made available.

 * 5.Save translation button - New article is automatically created on its proper wiki.

Now, I don't know wikimarkup or html, but I understand programming enough to know that all this features are eminently feasible. Can you weigh in on this? Best, -- Thamus joyfulnoise  06:44, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

hi - i want to help wikipedia with a fund-raising
Hi I use some internet website to earn "free" money .. and they really work. I'm thinking about how to use them to help wikipedia.

these sites are based on advertising .. you get paid to view advertisements. you earn also if your affiliates view these advertisements..

so what do you think if wikipedia join one of these site, and everyone who wants to help wikipedia can support it with money, doing a free-of-charge action?

here in Cosenza I use this fund raising to pay the rental of the house ( well.. a part of it ^_^ but more than 50$ )

tell me what you think about this proposal

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Ugo Campisani

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I replied to your question on my talk page. :-) Cheers. Tempodivalse [talk]  00:21, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Template:Develop/Importedsource
Er, what were you trying to achieve? The template and includes are quite complex. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:59, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * In this case, the imported source code is supposed to handle the use of comma or and between parameters, but the closing full stop had to be moved out of there (where only present on a free-form paramater) and conditionally added into develop after all parameters, but only if parameters were displayed. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:07, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Historian Beckett names Thatcher & Attlee greatest Brit PMs

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... ermmm, I hope that's what I was meant to do! Thanks in advance for your help, best wishes, DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered (talk) 20:12, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

wikimedia strategic planning
I got you August message today and found that the related talk page was still blank... it's a pity! I think that : 1. this strategic planning is important 2. but there are much too many pages to read and the issues are in such disorder that one gets lost very quickly 3. probably because of that people do not get involved 4. I've seen not one word about it on the fr.wiki, isn't that weird? 5. where are things standing as of today? where do we find the latest follow up? thanks anyway for contacting me and for your answers, Hope&Act3! (talk) 10:03, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: Article failed review
Okay, I think that I've got the article set up to WN:SG standards. Cocoaguytalkcontribs‽ 22:27, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: Jan 2010 Writing Contest Prize Winner!
Note: I came second, not first. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 10:11, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 * From what Gopher says in Dendodge's talk page, it seems Tempo did not claim the prize for privacy reasons. Pmlineditor discuss 10:20, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 * And I'm also willing to ignore my prize. I'm not yet eligible for a PayPal account, and £6.50 isn't exactly a life-changing sum of money. If I lived in North America, I might consider accepting a cheque, but it's not worth having it flown half way around the world. 81.108.114.207 (talk) 10:32, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That was me, Firefox has decided to start acting up. Δεν δοδγε  τ\c 10:33, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Same as Dendodge; not eligible for PayPal account and I don't want to give personal details such as address etc. Thanks for the offer though! Pmlineditor discuss 17:30, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, I did not send any e-mail to you. Does anybody know what I need to do to claim the prizes? -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 10:35, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

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At least 21 dead after coal mine explosion in Chinese mine

May 14, 2010 At least 21 miners in China are dead after an explosion at a coal mine in the southwestern province earlier today, according to reports.

The incident occurred at the Yuanyang mines in the city of. According to the Chinese news agency, there were ten other workers in the mine who were rescued. It was not immediately clear what caused the explosion, although it is being investigated, Xinhua reports. The colliery is operated by the government of the local township.

A rescue worker present at the scene says five of the survivors were hospitalised due to carbon monoxide inhalation. "We arrived at the mine to carry out the rescue at midnight, and helped bring three of the survivors out of the shaft," he told Xinhua.

Despite an initiative to increase the safety of collieries, Chinese mines are among the most dangerous in the world; official statistics say 2,631 workers died in 1,616 separate incidents last year, although the figure is down 18% from 2008.


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and stop whining like a baby. The Palestinians are people too, and despite all the attempts to silence them their voices must be heard. Like it or not the people have democratically elected Hamas, and its about time they had their voice represented at the diplomatic state level. Its very sad that those who hold the reigns of power in Israel are so terrified of a unified democratic state with full electoral representation for the native palestinians based on the principle of one person, one vote.

Sadly, Hamas has targeted innocent civilians, but Israel has as well. Both sides need to realise that this is unacceptable, and self-destructive.


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Officials: Plot to kill Indonesian president foiled

May 14, 2010 Indonesian authorities said earlier today that they have uncovered a plot by rebels to assassinate several senior government officials, among them president.

National police chief commented on the matter earlier today, saying that several rebels intended to conduct the attack and declare an  state during the August 17 independence day ceremony. "They were confident that all state officials and dignitaries would be there. Killing all the state officials would have accelerated the transition from a democracy to a state controlled by Islamic Shariah law," he said.

Danuri added that the attacks also included a plan to attack foreigners and hotels in the capital — somewhat similar to the 2008 Mumbai attacks that killed 174 after rebels attacked tourist spots like hotels and a train station.

"Their plan was also to launch attacks in Jakarta against foreigners — especially Americans — and attack and control hotels within certain communities, imitating what happened in Mumbai," the police chief said. "If we had not detected them and their military training had been successful, then they would have assassinated foreigners."

The plot was revealed in part due to several anti-terror raids near the capital, which saw twenty people arrested. Many of those now in custody were reportedly trained at a camp in, and operated by a branch of the group called al-Qaeda in Aceh.

This is reportedly the second alleged plot to assassinate the Indonesian president in a year; last August, security forces said they had evidence suggesting rebels would blow up a car by 's motorcade. The last large rebel attack was in last July, when suicide bombers targeted hotels in the capital.


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Review of revision 1019769 [Failed]

 * Well, perhaps I can add a few links, but if you look at the sources, you'll note that most of the content is extraneous "background information" that isn't really relevant to this particular event. I already added some background context in the last paragraph, I think that is sufficient. Will drop a few more links and resubmit for review. Tempodivalse [talk]  16:30, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Resubmitted for review. Tempodivalse [talk]  16:32, 14 May 2010 (UTC)


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Thread:Comments:Russian meeting with Hamas provokes criticism from Israel/Israel ought to grow up/reply

What bothers me is that whenever anyone tries to so much as talk with the Palestinians, the Israeli leadership cries"antisemitism, antisemitism!", which of course is perfectly ridiculous. It's such a stale old strategy, and it isn't working anymore.This decades log conflict has basically consisted of both sides shouting over each other without listening and talking to each other. The Indigenous Palestinians do have the right to determine the destiny of their own land, and they should not be treated like second class citizens in their own country. The Israelis are there to stay, however and to think that they would simply up and leave at this point is completely unrealistic. Is there is ever to be peace, both sides need to put their egos and their religious dogmas aside and agree to work together for a solution. Israel's strategy to marginalize the Palestinians as "terrorists" is ludicrous and ineffective. It will ultimately only make Hamas stronger. There are lessons to be learned from history on this matter. The Apartheid government of South Africa tried to use the same strategy with the ANC and it worked for them, but only for a while. Eventually what will happen, what must happen is that all citizens of Palestine (Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Druze, etc) will have the right to govern themselves, and all rights including the right of return for Palestinians must be recognised on an equal basis. Both sides must recognise this soon. Anything short of this will only result in more conflict. A solution must be based upon Democracy, Tolerance and mutual Respect.


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Thread:Comments:Five hundred Euro note withdrawn from sale in UK/Just Plain SIlly

Obviously this is a reactionary move on the part of the government, one which attempts to treat the symptoms rather than looking to the root causes. €500 banknotes don't cause money laundering, people do.


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I wasn't suggesting that literally, what I meant is that it seems likely that as time goes on Clegg and the Lib Dems will be relegated to the political wilderness (as Trotsky was) due to the deep and fundamental ideological differences that Lib Dems have with the Tories.


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they're more far right-wing than FOX


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LOL the old "isolated incident" line. Dude, that died at Abu Graib. Sorry, but It doesn't work anymore, People are smarter than you think.


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are for Austere Societies such as North Korea or Nazi Germany. They have no place in a country with an ancient tradition of fairness and democracy such as Greece


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User talk:Shishg

Hello,

Your recent contributions are considered to be spam and have been reverted or deleted. Should you believe that your contributions are not spam, please argue your case on your talk page, or in WN:ALERT.

Further spamming may result in your editing privileges being removed. Please contribute to Wikinews in a constructive fashion instead. Tempodivalse [talk]  16:52, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

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Thread:Comments:British National Party loses all seats in Barking & Dagenham after elections/Indeed/reply

That Nick Griffin is such a TOOL.


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Thread:Comments:Nigeria swears in new president after death of Umaru Yar'Adua/Goodluck to Goodluck

Jonathan. I wish him the best!


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Thread:Comments:Nepal Maoists begin strike to overthrow government/Comments from feedback form - "first of all maoists should be..."/reply (2)

Why must they be Maoists, It would be so much better if they were simply Marxists, or Democratic Socialists


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Thread:Comments:California governor Schwarzenegger vetoes smoking ban in parks/All smoking?/reply (3)

The blame for this rests squarely of King Nosmo of Obaccotania, AKA NOSMO KING


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Did the ban also apply to sausages?


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Thread:Comments:KKE: Interview with the Greek Communist Party/Comments from feedback form - "I suppose it's asking too much..."/reply (3)

That's more constructive. I would like to get some 'man on the ground' type stuff; although it is - ironically - more difficult. It does help that English is more common there now than it used to be; my Greek extends to 'thank you' and 'you're welcome'.


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Thread:Comments:Russia agrees to construct Turkish nuclear reactor/Classic Russian Strategy/reply

So turkey gets to build nuclear reactors but Iran doesn't? seems rather Asymetrical doesn't it?


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Thread:Comments:KKE: Interview with the Greek Communist Party/Comments from feedback form - "incredibly leading questions. ..."/reply

Why would I argue against the points made? That would be bias. It is up to you to argue against (or for) the points made and draw your own conclusions, not for me to try and make or break them.


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Thread:Comments:Five hundred Euro note withdrawn from sale in UK/Just Plain SIlly/reply

Lol, well it's a lot easier when you can shift £20k in a cigarette packet!


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Thread:Comments:Russia agrees to construct Turkish nuclear reactor/Classic Russian Strategy/reply (2)

I think its fair to say that Turkey is not as much of a threat as Iran. However, they aren't the most ideal nation for nuclear technology either. Are they nuts/scared enough to build a bomb?

Unlikely, but is it worth the risk?

It's a tough one. If Greece and Turkey in particular would settle down and leave each other the hell alone I'd be much happier. I can't imagine them nuking Greece, but I can imagine that the constant displays of military power have created a culture where the military would press to build such a thing, even though there is no conceivable reason why they might ever need one.

Turkey is just the sort of place where dirty tricks are employed. In the linked example, authorities accuse military officers of trying to provoke chaos for a coup attempt; the military dismisses this idea.


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User talk:70.70.6.151

Welcome
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Colegio Preciosa Sangre, Pichilemu, amidst other Chilean schools celebrate Student's Day

May 15, 2010 On Friday morning, Student's Day was celebrated in the most schools across Chile. Student's Day was created in May 11, 1990 by Chile's Ministry of Education. The same day, the Supreme Decree N° 524 was validated, whereby also authorized the functioning of Student's Centres in the High Education schools.

At Colegio Preciosa Sangre, Pichilemu celebration started at 8:30 AM local time (1230 UTC). Students, grouped by grade, shared a cup of milk and sandwiches. Competitions and games were originally planned to take place in the school's yard, but due to adverse weather, these were moved to an old, large room. The school was split into two teams, Roja (red) and Verde (green). The event was organized by Nicole Grez, Carol Piña, and Paola Sepúlveda, amidst others, and the judges included Angélica Miranda and Mother Loreto Fuentes.

The first of the activities was the performance of a Pichileminian metal band, that covered 's songs. Subsequently, started the games. The first one consisted of the imitation of a well-known musical artist. The Roja alliance prepared the imitation of 's Luna Luna. The Verde alliance performed a sketch with 's . Both alliances gained points for this activity.

The next activity in the morning was , that consisted if three steps for students from first to eight grades of Basic Education:
 * 1) Put a thread through a needle.
 * 2) Eat a pear while playing with a basketball ball.
 * 3) Pump up and burst an inflatable globe.

From the first to fourth grades of High Education:
 * 1) Take out a coin from a plate full of flour.
 * 2) Eat a sandwich with hot chilli, and drink a glass of Coke.
 * 3) Put a thread through two needles. (Between this step and the fourth, they have to chew the same pear).
 * 4) Pump up and burst two globes.

 * Results

In the group of 1st to 4th Grade (Basic), 5th to 8th Grade (Basic) and 1st to 4th Grade (High), the Verde team won.

Subsequently, some girls from the team performed a dance with some teachers from the school. Later, a game of the 3-legs jump took place. It mainly consisted of: samples of well-known songs were played, when they stopped, the pairs had to jump until they reached the microphone, and sing the rest of the song. Three groups of four grades were formed, as in the gymkhana game. Each group had to listen 3 songs.

 * Results
 * 1st to 4th Grade (Basic)

 * 1) Mazapán - Una Cuncuna Amarilla : Draw
 * 2)  -  : Verde team won
 * 3)  -  : Verde team won

 * 5th to 8th Grade (Basic)

 * 1) Mazapán - Caballito Blanco : Rojo team won
 * 2)  -  : Rojo team won
 * 3)  feat. Crossfire -  : Rojo team won

 * 1st to 4th Grade (High)

 * 1)  -  : Rojo team won
 * 2)  -  : Draw
 * 3)  - La Minifalda : Draw

Finally it was determined that the Rojo team won this game. The penultimate game took place at 12:05 local time (16:05 UTC), and it consisted of:
 * 1) First round: collect 15 turnkeys.
 * 2) Second round: collect 10 clocks.

All of this had to be done in just 30 seconds. In the first round, the Verde team collected 11 turnkeys, and the Rojo team, 10. In the second round, the Verde team collected 6 clocks, while the Rojo team, 7.

The last game was tugar tugar, which consisted of dancing known songs, including 's ', 's Prrum, 's ', 's  and Chilean. After some time, the jury took out some pairs. There were six pairs, with a student from each grade. As the game came to a close, only two pairs remained. Finally, the game was won by the verde team.

Angélica Miranda and Mother Loreto Fuentes, both judges, congratulated both teams and gave the total results:

The same Pichileminian metal band that performed at the beginning of the games, played again, as students left the building.

Los Ángeles
The Student's Day was celebrated on Wednesday, the 12th in. The teachers congratulated the students and at once, they enjoyed activities that included artistic acts, deportive activities and certainly, free food, depending on the scholar journey.

In the José Manso de Velasco School, one of the teachers disguised as, and revolutionized the students. In the Liceo Comercial, they elected a Queen. The most popular took place in Sternenkinder, a special school, locally known as NEE (Necesidad Educativa Especial), that enjoyed an event prepared by a local discotheque.

Valdivia
In, the Education Seremi (boss) of the , Carlos Crot, visited the students of Instituto Superior de Administración y Turismo (INSAT) while they were celebrating their day, on Wednesday, congratulating all the students of the region. The event took place in a room of the establishment. Crot was the Principal of the Institute until just some weeks ago, when he had to leave to become Seremi.

Parral
The Student's Day was celebrated on Thursday 13, in. The Mayor of the city, Israel Urrutia Escobar, managed to take a Savory and Chocapic (both part of ) tent to Parral. Savory's ice cream were given for free to people that could get in front of the Municipality building.

The activity had been repeated in other communes affected by the. Some of them are:, , , , , and some other minor towns. More than five thousand ice creams were given. "I appreciate the companies that have came along to our call. This activity excites us and entertains not just the childs, but their parents. Today is the Student's day and we wanted to celebrate it properly [...]," said Israel Urrutia.

Students from the Santiago Urrutia Benavente School and Pablo Neruda School, ensured this was one of the best activities made in a long time, because they thought it was a fantasy that people could give ice creams to those who want and to play freely.

Punta Arenas
The Student's Day was celebrated on Thursday 13 here, too. In many educational establishments of the city, activities were performed to celebrate this day. In Instituto Superior de Comercio, the students enjoyed a dance-tón (bailetón), El Pingüino reported. The Clerk of the Municipality of, Orlando Estefó, congratulated the students, "by making history every day by day, as the main actors in the educational process."


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Thread:Comments:UK elections: David Cameron becomes Prime Minister/The Hopeful thing that could happen/reply (8)

Clegg has condemned the Lib-Dems to at least 20+ years in the political wilderness by getting into bed with the chinless wonders from Eton.

Fun facts about the UK's new government:
 * There are 23 millionaires on the conservative benches
 * The old-boys-network is in ascendancy; MPs who are former pupils of Eaton has increased from fifteen to twenty.


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