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Comments:New audiotape attributed to Osama bin Laden released

Or as a late night television would say, Osama says "I am not gay. I never have been gay". Contralya 20:54, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

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This guy is really bored... Gosh, is it so difficult to be normal? - Jurock (reply) 22:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

 * hahahaha Contralya 22:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

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Unofficial accounts that portions of Escondido, CA have been evacuated as of 2pm PST.


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Nobel laureate Doris Lessing: 9/11 'wasn't that terrible' compared to IRA attacks

October 22, 2007 British writer Doris Lessing, recipient of the 2007 Nobel Prize in Literature, has said in an interview that the terrorist attack on September 11 "wasn't that terrible" when compared to attacks the Irish Republican Army (IRA) made on Britain.

"September 11 was terrible, but if one re-examines the history of the IRA, what happened in the United States wasn't so bad," Lessing told leading Spanish daily publication El Pais. "Some Americans believe I'm crazy. Many people died, two prominent buildings fell, but it was neither as terrible nor so extraordinary as they think.

"Do you know what people forget? That the IRA attacked with bombs against our government; it killed several people while a Conservative congress was being held and in which the prime minister, Margaret Thatcher, was (attending). People forget," She says, adding a comment that the Americans are "a very naive people, or they pretend to be."

The IRA spent decades in armed guerrilla warfare against the United Kingdom, but officially ended its militaristic practices in 2005, after a lengthy peace process. The violence in Northern Ireland killed approximately 3,700 people and horrendously injured tens of thousands. By way of comparison, about 3,000 people were killed during 9/11.

She goes on to criticize former prime minister of the United Kingdom Tony Blair and his ally current President of the United States of America George W. Bush. "I always hated Tony Blair, from the beginning. Many of us hated Tony Blair, I think he has been a disaster for Britain and we have suffered him for many years. I said it when he was elected: This man is a little showman who is going to cause us problems and he did."

"As for Bush, he's a world calamity," Lessing continues "Everyone is tired of this man. Either he is stupid or he is very clever, although you have to remember he is a member of a social class which has profited from wars."

Iran also comes in for criticism. Lessing's parents currently reside in Bakhtaran, Iran. "I hate Iran, I hate the Iranian government, it's a cruel and evil government. Look what happened to its president in New York, they called him evil and cruel in Colombia University. Marvelous! They should have said more to him! Nobody criticizes him, because of oil."


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Comments:Nobel laureate Doris Lessing: 9/11 'wasn't that terrible' compared to IRA attacks

No one criticizes the president of Iran... this seems a bit different. Also the IRA attacks took place over a long period of time; 9/11 was a single strike which turned out to be much more deadly than any single IRA attack. And finally if you can compare 9/11 to the IRA bombings, you can compare what happened in northern Ireland to what happened in the holocaust during WWII, a comparison to which it greatly pales. Just my opinions.. Kerrow 23:18, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

 * She probably said it before that happened, and she is probably referring about until recently (in which she is correct); that Iran hasn't been criticized until recently. Contralya 00:35, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

 * That was only a single example. There have been many criticisms of Iran throughout the past few years. Saying that "'nobody' criticizes him (the president of Iran)" is quite an exaggerated claim. Iran is on Bush's "Axis of Evil" list, where he placed them in 2002. Kerrow 02:42, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

 * A name on a list. But there hasn't been specific scrutiny until recently. Contralya 09:18, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like she's a socialist in need of a good colonic.
3,700 people people killed during the NI conflict, that was on both sides over a prolonged war.

To the compare 9/11 attack to IRA bombings one should compare a single bombing with another single bombing, NOT an entire campaign to one single event. Otherwise one would have to include all deaths from 9/11, Afganastan AND Iraq in the 9/11 total.

This lady has her soapbox now and is ranting and raving.

 * Good point. Contralya 09:19, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

 * on the other hand ireland is a much smaller country than america and it was prolonged and people where scared for along time. nobody is scared 9/11 will happen to they're only scared because bush says 'its a dangerous world, not as dangerous as before but the most dangerous its ever been'! and if my leader was saying that id be v.scared!!!

 * The point is that we get so whipped up over 9/11 and terrorism, we fail to see there was a sustained campaign of terrorism in the U.K. that was far worse, affected far more people on a daily basis, then the one-off of a major terrorist attack on one single day. That's her point.  Compared to the daily terrorism and anxiety that provoked in the U.K., 9/11 only scares us because our leaders use it to scare us.  --David Shankbone 21:41, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Her parents live in Iran??
She's 88. She really has 2 parents alive? Can this be verified?

I read with interest your coverage of author Doris Lessing’s  comments re. 9/11 and the IRA. These points were made and expanded on in Katherine Cowan’s powerful novel ‘Catch Yourself On’ published in the UK two years ago but yet to find a US publisher. Is this because the truth hurts?

Ralph Hulbert, Wokingham, UK

These numbers are negligiable when compared to Kashmir milatant atrocities
Not to undermine the numbers for 911 or the IRA activities, all other numbers are negligable when compared to the atrocities commited by the millatants in Kashmir estimated at more than 80,000. Who should be blamed for the number of killings happening in Iraq ?? it's a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea. There's nothing anyone could do about the past, but the future is on the decisions we make now.

http://www.kashmir-information.com/Atrocities/index.html

This story gives the impression all the roughly 3500 killed were killed by the Provisional IRA. They were in fact responsible for roughly half of these deaths--nothing to be proud of I know but still it's misleading to give the impression they were the only ones doing the killing. A detailed breakdown of organisations responsible for deaths during the troubles can be accessed here: http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/sutton/tables/Organisation_Responsible.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.53.59 (talk) 21:35, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Under My Skin & Colonized Country: Southern Rhodesia: The Making of a "Communist" Thinker
She said THAT!? She must have been pretty STUPID, then! . . .   ;) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ghost Tracker (talk • contribs) 01:11, 12 June 2013  (UTC)


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Oral Roberts returns to namesake university amid son's scandal

October 22, 2007

Former faith healer and televangelist Oral Roberts returned to Oral Roberts University (ORU) on October 22 as President. His son Richard Roberts, who served as president since 1993, stepped down last week amid allegations of illegal political and financial wrongdoing.

Oral said that all allegations made in the ORU lawsuit and an attached report are false and "said the university will begin mediation this week with the three former professors." However according to Tulsa World, an attorney for the professors who sued ORU said, "Right now, we're a bit disturbed about attempting any type of a settlement as long as they're so adamant they haven't done anything wrong," and "We would prefer to move forward and develop the information and develop the case."

On Monday night alumni, clergy from around the U.S., and the people fired held a rally at Morningstar Baptist Church asking for Richard to permantly resign. They say Robert's temporary leave of absence "isn't enough."


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Finalists head for Canadian football's 2007 Grey Cup

November 19, 2007

The Saskatchewan Roughriders will face off against the Winnipeg Blue Bombers at the 95th Grey Cup game in Toronto next Sunday, the 25th, as the Canadian Football League's 2007 season nears its completion.

The Roughriders defeated the BC Lions with a 26-17 score in the Western division final today at Vancouver. Saskatchewan last played in the Grey Cup finals 10 years ago.

Winnipeg won the Eastern division in Toronto after a 19-9 victory against the Toronto Argonauts.

The Grey Cup, first awarded in 1909, is Canada's most significant football trophy. This year's Grey Cup championship game features a scheduled performance by American rock musician Lenny Kravitz during the half-time intermission.


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Saskatchewan Roughriders win 2007 Grey Cup

November 26, 2007

The Saskatchewan Roughriders have won the 95th Grey Cup in Toronto, Canada on Sunday after defeating the Winnipeg Blue Bombers by a 23-19 score. Saskatchewan last won the Cup in 1989, and their last appearance at the championship game was in 1997 against the Toronto Argonauts.

The Canadian Football League (CFL) championship game was held at Toronto's Rogers Centre before a crowd of 52,230. This is the first time these two western Canadian teams have met in a Grey Cup final. Despite Winnipeg's lead during the first and third quarters, Saskatchewan's offence proved too strong for the Blue Bombers in the end.

A half-time performance by rock musician Lenny Kravitz included the song "American Woman", originally performed by Winnipeg band The Guess Who.

On Thursday, Saskatchewan quarterback Kerry Joseph was declared this year's CFL Outstanding Player at a player awards ceremony in Toronto.

The Cup is named after Earl Grey who donated the trophy to honour Canada's most successful amateur rugby team. By the time the Canadian Football League was formed in 1958, the Cup became the top prize for professional football in Canada.

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2010 FIFA World Cup Qualification (Asia): Pakistan vs. Iraq

October 22, 2007

Hoping to reach the final tournament for the 1st time in 24 years, Asian champions Iraq defeated Pakistan 7-0 in the 1st leg of the 1st round of the Asian qualifying zone for the 2010 FIFA World Cup.

Nashat Akram opened the scoring in 19th minute before Karim netted his 1st of four goals six minutes later. Iraq would go onto score five goals into the 2nd half.

The win was the first for new coach Egil Olsen. He took Norway to the 1994 and 1998 FIFA World CUP final and to 2nd place in the FIFA/Coca-Cola world ranking.

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Study says carbon dioxide levels rising faster than anticipated

October 23, 2007 The concentration of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere is increasing faster than expected, according to a new study published in Tuesday's edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The study said that rising levels of CO2, the main greenhouse gas blamed for climate change, threaten to accelerate global warming. The study attributes the change in CO2 levels to increased use of fossil fuels and a decline in the amount of gas being absorbed by the oceans and land.

CO2 emissions have increased by an average of 3.3 percent per year since 2000, compared with 1.1 percent per year in the 1990s. The rate has increased 35 percent more than scientists had anticipated based on economic growth, according to Corinne Le Quere, one of the paper's authors.

"The causes of the acceleration are surprising," Le Quere said. "One is that we are not as efficient at using CO2 as we had anticipated, and the second cause is that it appears that the CO2 sinks are weakening." The main natural CO2 sinks are the oceans and plants.

The study attributed approximately half of the unexpected growth to an increase in the carbon intensity of the global economy, a measure of the amount of carbon emissions per unit of economic activity. "For 30 years we were becoming more efficient at using CO2 for producing energy and wealth, and this has completely stalled since 2000," Le Quere said, adding that increased use of coal by developing countries such as China and India was partially to blame.

The remaining unexpected growth was attributed to a decline in the ability of the oceans and land to absorb CO2. Most climate models do not account for a weakening of CO2 sinks, Le Quere said. Alan Robock, associate director of the Center for Environmental Prediction at Rutgers University, called the reduction of the oceanic CO2 sink "really shocking".

The study "raises some very important issues that the public should be aware of: Namely that concentrations of CO2 are increasing at much higher rates than previously expected and this is in spite of the Kyoto Protocol that is designed to hold them down in western countries," said Kevin Trenberth, the head of the Climate Analysis Section at the National Center for Atmospheric Research and a lead author of the 2007 assessment report of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

The IPCC predicted in February of this year that temperatures would rise by up to 6.4 degrees Celsius over the next century. However, Le Quere suggested that this scenario might be overly optimistic. "There’s quite a significant difference from what was forecast,” she said. "It’s rather scary and the IPCC scenarios are, therefore, rather too optimistic — as if they weren’t bleak enough already. The whole thing is likely to mean mitigation is rather more difficult than was thought."


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Talk:Interview with Sue Gardner of the Wikimedia Foundation

long interview, needs better formatting. Great otherwise. --SVTCobra 02:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

When the...?
When and how did this interview occur? --Nzgabriel | Talk 06:12, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Yes, there needs to be some notes on the Collaboration page regardless of how many participated. --SVTCobra 06:16, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Apparently it was IRC. Don't know when, though. --  Zanimum 19:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

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duh--74.76.105.95 03:50, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Foolishness
What millions of people don't know is that CHINA, not the USA, is ACTUALLY the biggest producer of greenhouse gases. Because of Al Gore, everyone thinks it is all from the US, but they are wrong. Contralya 05:55, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Point being? It's ok to do bad things, because others do worse things?

 * No. People think it is almost entirely the US's fault, it isn't. People think that the US is the biggest producer of greenhouse gases, it isn't. The Kyoto protocol doesn't cover China. Contralya 11:15, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


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Armando museum goes up in flames

October 25, 2007

A huge fire set the Armando museum in Amersfoort, Netherlands in flames around 1:00pm (local time). The museum was having a special exhibition and had borrowed many paintings from other museums and individuals. The museum was being worked on by painters, though there is no evidence that that was the cause.

Armando is a Dutch artist currently living in Germany. The collection of his work in the museum is estimated to have been worth roughly €3 million. The collection consisted mostly of paintings and statues.

The people living near the museum had been evacuated in case the fire spread beyond the buildings which had already caught fire. They were able to spend the night in the local city hall.

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Comments:Turkey preparing for incursion into Iraq after PKK militants kill 17 soldiers

Stop calling PKK as Kurdish rebels
It is very irritating and bothering to see that Wikinews is referring to PKK Terrorists as "Kurdish Rebels" or "militants". As Wikinews/Wikipedia and all their personnel are well aware of the fact that PKK is a terrorist organization which makes its living through drug trafficking, extortion, arms smuggling and money laundering.PKK claimed thousands of Turkish soldiers' lives during the last two decades. PKK has also taken countless civilian lives -including babies and children- through shootings and bombings. Technically speaking, there are many sub-types of the term “rebellion” ranging from “non-violent resistance” to “insurgency”, which is a term you often use for violence in Iraq. Why would Wikinews choose to be non-specific when it comes to PKK violence? If Mahatma Gandhi were alive today, would you call him a rebel too? I am sure he would have had something to say for such injustice of equality.

What Wikinews presents in news has an immense influence on public opinion and vaguely referring to "terrorists" as "rebels" or "militants" only serves to justify their violence, as if it is excusable, and create an aura of sympathy for their cause. Your attempts to shape or influence public opinion regarding this matter is not acceptable nor professional.

I strongly and kindly request Wikinews to correct its wording regarding terrorists, terrorism and their actions.

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WiMAX Forum Taipei Showcase & Conference starts for M-Taiwan and WiMAX applications

October 23, 2007

With WiMAX Forum Member Conference and professional exposition and seminars in Taiwan, the "2007 WiMAX Forum Taipei Showcase & Conference", supervised by Ministry of Economic Affairs, R.O.C. Taiwan and Science & Technology Advisory Group of Executive Yuan of R.O.C. Taiwan, organized by Industrial Technology Research Institute, WiMAX Forum, Taipei Computer Association, and Taiwan Electrical and Electronic Manufacturers' Association, started on October 22 & 23 at Taipei International Convention Center (TICC) and Grand Hyatt Taipei.

This 2-in-1 activity invited not only governmental and industry people sharing the experiences with some applications of WiMAX infrastructure but also hardware companies to expand opportunity between Taiwan and global WiMAX players. On the conference, organizers also invited conference participants joining General Assembly Keynote focused on the development and supply chains of WiMAX infrastructure at WiMAX Forum Member Conference today.

In the showcase area, 76 companies exhibited WiMAX systems, components, applications, testings, and certifications. Organizers also set M-Taiwan and WiMAX Forum Members pavilions with different solutions and topics. On the other hand, Far Eastone Telecommunications Inc., and Tatung Co., Ltd. rented tour buses for the mobile WiMAX tour, and China Television Co., Ltd. set eSNG car in front of TICC main entrance.


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Comments:Study says carbon dioxide levels rising faster than anticipated

duh--74.76.105.95 03:50, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

The news that CO2 emissions re accelerating faster tan expected is disturbing. It seems that one of the positive feedback effects - a decrease in absorption by the oceans as temperatures rise - is coming into play. Scary.

But other sources suggest that the increase in average global temperature, which was rapid in the 1990s, has levelled off since 1998. So what is going on here? Maybe the warming effect of GHG emissions is being off-set by the cooling effect of particulate emissions as China and India industrialise. This mirrors the opposite effect in the 1990s caused by the drop in industrial production in the Former Soviet Union and the switch to gas / deindustrialisation in the West.

If this effect is correct, then strenous efforts to switch carbon intensive economies to cleaner fuels would result in less particulate emission. The extra CO2 already in the atmoshere could then cause an acceleration in temperature without any mitigating effect from particulates. Doom. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcart1534 (talk • contribs) 01:32, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Foolishness
What millions of people don't know is that CHINA, not the USA, is ACTUALLY the biggest producer of greenhouse gases. Because of Al Gore, everyone thinks it is all from the US, but they are wrong. Contralya 05:55, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Point being? It's ok to do bad things, because others do worse things?

 * No. People think it is almost entirely the US's fault, it isn't. People think that the US is the biggest producer of greenhouse gases, it isn't. The Kyoto protocol doesn't cover China. Contralya 11:15, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The Kyoto Protocol doesn't cover the USA either, since Bush won't submit it to Congress for ratification. Why be so defensive? This article doesn't even mention the USA. The point is to raise awareness about this global problem. Wikisoup 19:40, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * "Raising awareness about this global problem" is a liberal/democrat POV. If that's the point of the article, then what about WN:NPOV?  --69.114.159.217 20:05, 23 October 2007 (UTC) w:User:Thinboy00
 * Studying concentrations of CO2 is scientific, not political, thanks. Wikisoup 20:09, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Contralya, it depends on the statistics you use. Personally I believe this is much more accurate for finger pointing List of countries by carbon dioxide emissions per capita. Although in my opinion, it is really a global problem and finger pointing never solved a thing. And from my personal experience, "people" don't blame it on the US, that's why the Kyoto protocol has so many signatories. 17:16, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, China does make up about a fifth of the world's population. Seriously, how is it that 300 million people can emit so much greenhouse gas as to rival the emissions of a country with a 1.3 billion people?

Shouldn't there be two molecules of Oxygen in the article title (subscript) rather than Oxygen squared (superscript)? Shane.Bell 14:16, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I think this article is full of shit.

 * I am not saying that the U.S. doesn't have a carbon emissions problem. I am saying that I hate how people foolishly think the USA is the biggest polluter and think china's contribution to greenhouse gases is 'minor' compared to the USA (as stated IN the article). Contralya 19:47, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

 * And wikisoup, the Kyoto protocol doesn't cover USA because it didn't sign the agreement. It doesn't cover China because the agreement doesn't include it. Contralya 19:48, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * On that point we can agree. Wikisoup 20:16, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Is it really news?
I've heard about this weeks ago. Mutton333 21:34, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


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This series is mostly translated from Chinese Wikinews, with some information changed in site. I've participated this show and conference, and press conferences for all the information.

Also, a foreign PR gave me a message earlier below: "From: Guitteau, Dan (DAL-GHI) DGuitteau@golinharris.com Date: 2007/10/23 11:33 Subject: Follow up from the WiMAX Forum To: brockF5@gmail.com

Hello Rico. It was a pleasure meeting you today at the keynotes session and thank you again for attending yesterday's press conferences. As promised, attached is the announcement that the WiMAX Forum distributed yesterday regarding the PlugFest, which was covered during the press conference yesterday. We look forward to providing you updates in the future.

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Talk:Study says carbon dioxide levels rising faster than anticipated

CO2 not CO2
On the main page the link to this article still says CO2 instead of CO2. Can someone fix please? Thanks.--85.158.139.99 15:09, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

efficiency of using CO2
"humans have become less efficient in using CO2" this sentence is complete rubbish.

Humans do not use CO2 - except for making sparkling water and such. We are burning lots of carbon based fuels in our houses, cars and industry, producing CO2. We have overestimated our capacity in increasing our efficiency of energy consumption.

The referenced article Times Online got this right, the mistake was copied from the Bloomberg.com article.


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WiMAX Forum will endorse M-Taiwan WiMAX Application Lab in Hsinchu and shows the highlights from WiMAX Forum PlugFest in Taipei

October 23, 2007

During the 2007 WiMAX Forum Taipei Showcase and Conference, WiMAX Forum announced the highlights from WiMAX Forum PlugFest in Grand Hyatt Taipei last week and announced that WiMAX Forum will endorse the M-Taiwan WiMAX Application Lab (MTWAL) in Hsinchu Science Park at the Press Conference yesterday and the General Assembly of the WiMAX Forum Taipei Member Conference today. With this laboratory located in Hsinchu, the WiMAX infrastructure in Taiwan will be enhanced more with the cooperation between academics (especially National Tsing Hua University and National Chiao Tung University in Taiwan), governmental organization, and companies in networking industry.

This laboratory provided an open environment where world-wide innovators can experiment and test WiMAX-related products and the stability of application solutions at Hsinchu Science Park. Currently, equipment and application developers will have the 1st priority in testing for the quality evaluation and knowing the sanctification of consumers before bringing them to market.

"Members of WiMAX shows the latest innovations at this showcase (WiMAX Forum Taipei Showcase), I believed that MTWAL will provide a complete product testing environment and applications in the WiMAX access area with the support from governmental and industrial organizations in Taiwan."

"WiMAX is a brand new wireless network different from other similar industries, this service must be dominated with lots of different operators to maintain the basic infrastructure of WiMAX." Ron Resnick (Chairman of WiMAX Forum) remarked at the Press Conference.

"WiMAX Forum chose Hsinchu Science Park as the development basis of WiMAX with a unique characteristic in networking industry in Taiwan. We held a PlugFest last week for brand new WiMAX products with 200 engineers participating this test to evaluate the performance and test the quality. With this PlugFest, participants experienced rich services and good quality of new products. The PlugFest also had numbers of milestones including testing the leading advanced antenna technologies delivering the fastest speeds and broadest coverage."

"MIMO setups aren't achieved until mid-week historically, but in this PlugFest, lots of vendors completed this high-risk testing and demonstrated the data flow ability between different matrices, as well as several beam-forming IOP set ups." Ed Agis (Chairman of the WiMAX Forum Certification Working Group) said.

According to WiMAX Forum, lots of vendors also participated the exhibition of 2007 WiMAX Forum Taipei Showcase and demonstrated WiMAX technology solutions. Ron Resnick also remarked this information at the 2nd day Keynote of 2007 WiMAX Forum Taipei Conference. Mei-yueh Ho (Chairman of Council for Economic Planning and Development, Executive Yuan, R.O.C. Taiwan) also looked this MTWAL set up as a bright idea, and Steve Ruey-long Chen (Minister of Economic Affairs, R.O.C. Taiwan) praised this set up as a boost of WiMAX infrastructure in Taiwan.


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Space Shuttle Discovery launches for mission STS-120

October 23, 2007 Space Shuttle Discovery successfully launched this morning from Launch Complex 39A at the Kennedy Space Center at 11:38 EDT (UTC-4).

During the two-week mission, the shuttle will deliver the Harmony Module to the International Space Station as well as preparing the space station for future additions.

About two hours before the scheduled launch, NASA discovered and assessed the threat posed by a 4 by 1.5-inch (10.16 by 3.81-cm) chunk of ice that had formed on a pipe that connects the external tank and the space shuttle main engines. A strike from debris at launch was responsible for the loss of the Space Shuttle Columbia in February 2003.


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Talk:Space Shuttle Discovery launches for mission STS-120

Probably needs the mission number in the title to make it unique. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:07, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
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UEFA Champions League 2007–08: CSKA Moscow vs. Inter Milan

October 23, 2007

beat in their Champions League match today in a game that saw  become the 6th player to play at least 100 games in UEFA Champions League.

The Moscow club took the game to Inter with 18 shots and a 1st half lead. However, CSKA Moscow will look at this as a lost opportunity as only five of those shots hit the target.

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Wikipedia
Wikipedia can be copied by anyone under GNU, not to mention this is Wikinews a related project and not to mention I wrote the Wikipedia article.... 74.14.120.137 21:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Whoa!
Why the hatred towards Wikipedia? - Ta bu shi da yu 14:08, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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uploaded the image to the commons under the same filename. Still learning so not quite sure how to delete the one on wikinews... Professafresh 12:32, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Wikipedia passes two million article mark
We could do it NPOV - I've written about 2M on pl Wikinews: Angielska Wikipedia przekroczyła pułap 2 milionów artykułów. But... I like stats :) Here is my article about pl Wikimedia projects (in pl). We can do it - to write NPOV about Wikimedia. Regards. Przykuta 06:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Ticker
Try hard reloading - some weird things happened after my rename. Matt | userpage|contribs 03:25, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

God article
Thanks for meeting me in the middle on this. I think that our strength is in being serious about news, and not succumbing to the tongue-in-cheek style that plagues the majority of the blogosphere. Despite the somewhat humorous nature of the lawsuit the senator is making a statement about frivolous lawsuits — this is a serious subject, and needs to be given proper respect, which is definitely hard to do when the action the senator took is so ridiculous. By planting our own humor into the story we make it completely about the humor of the suit, and do not respect the newsworthiness of the fact that a senator went to such an extreme to make a point.

I don't want to say that we have to be dry about our stories, or take humor out completely. But I think that we need to be careful to focus on the news aspect of our stories first. In either case, if you're ok with the compromise of the attribution to the external entity (Wired News) like you've done then I'll accept this compromise as well. :-) -- IlyaHaykinson 10:01, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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Please remove the single source tag, if possible. Thank you. Regards --Kushal one 02:32, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Public Domain articles
Just to test the theory, I'm going to some nice OR for a story tonight - I'll use PD-article and I will make it an excellent piece of OR...and there will most likely be the usual shitstorm of "zomg, we can't be famous if we're public domain". Truth be told, I've got a number of OR articles of extremely high quality (I don't waste time with false modesty, sorry) that I simply post elsewhere, or else just write up to keep in practise since graduating from University and College (English and Journalism) last year. I've actually been debating using my savings to go overseas and become WMF's first war correspondent...but I'm definitely insisting on PD-status of my works if I do so ;) Sherurcij refusing to add Original Reporting until PD Articles are allowed'' 02:25, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I'll have to change my signature - it seems nothing was challenged/removed this time. Do me a favour and restore the PD-article template to the story Two American soldiers charged in Iraqi murders for me? I'm not sure if I'd be otherwise allowed to retroactively apply it to my earlier stories or not - but it was on that one originally :) Sherurcij refusing to add Original Reporting until PD Articles are allowed'' 03:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

O.J. Simpson posts bail in alleged robbery
The guy who attempted the high-five for the attorney was someone named Anthony Barbieri aka Jake Byrd who works with Jimmy Kimmel. See work as Jake Byrd at YouTube. He usually crashes events spouting about Michael Jackson. Just a weird FYI. --SVTCobra 00:34, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL Great pick up on that :) Even so, it was still funny to have watched it :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:35, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm confused
Assuming the "talk to the dragon" is an invite to discuss, and you don't just place it with you signature (article in question is already old...) O.K. um... what do you mean by "Not in..." (168.28.51.14 15:24, 21 September 2007 (UTC), no account yet; may never need one)

Updates
Got it. Thanks. --David Shankbone 15:46, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If you are going to continually remove a category that I continually put back in, can you please explain why you are doing so? --David Shankbone 16:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Where's the play-doh
See this picture: http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2007/09/21/star_simpson/

Where is the play-doh? I don't see any.
 * As I said before she had play-doh...regardless of where it was, she had it. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, she did, but you said that you saw play-doh on the circuit board when you saw a picture of it, so I was wondering where it was. Do you have a source that says the play-doh was on the circuit board? Fnordling 23:22, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I reworded it so that it says it was one or the other. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:26, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * But it is inaccurate to say that it was one or the other when the fact is that it was not on the circuit board. I have reworded it to show that she was carrying it. Fnordling 23:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Sakshama Deletion ??
dear why the latest edit by me Sakshama:: The Annual Techno Management Festival Of Engineering College Bikaner was deleted?? please leave a reply on my talk page

Can you edit Furry fans flock to Further Confusion 2007?
Hi DragonFire1024. I wanted to edit this article, but it's protected. Can you edit it for me?

Here is what I would like done: Addition of Anthrocon 2007 draws thousands to Pittsburgh for furry weekend under a related news section. Might also be good to add Pittsburgh playwrights pen furry musical, invite Anthrocon attendees to observe reading, and to add the Anthrocon news article to that story's related news section, as all three relate to one another.

Thanks! :-) GreenReaper 18:24, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Normally we don't add related news to the older articles. Or maybe I misunderstood your question? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 19:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * No, that was my meaning; if that's not what Wikinews does, then fair enough. I figured it made as much sense as having the old stories linked in the new ones, since people are just as likely to start reading the oldest as they are the newest - perhaps more so, as that one is featured. GreenReaper 17:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

6%
Acording to my calculation, 6% of all the articles on wikinews were published by you! Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:00, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Question...
Hi DragonFire! Since you are like the wikinewsie here, I thought it better to ask you. :). My question is: Why is it that here, in English Wikinews, you are still publishing material in the public domain? For example, I recently came across this article. Does that actually respect WMF's policies? I mean, it's like "publishing" something in Wikipedia but with a - dunno - licence that's not GFDL. Well, hope you can answer my question... - Jurock (reply here) 22:13, 28 September 2007 (UTC) (PD: Congrats for that 6% ;))

 * Well, I thought this was a policy... That's the reason for my question... - Jurock (reply here) 15:35, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Help
I just added a news story about a dog escaping a fire could you fine more about this? I love making news articles thanks DragonFire1024. --66.152.205.254 15:28, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

wikishorts?
a possibility? how long did it take to become a admin? also you do a great job at what you do. :) --66.152.205.254 15:39, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews reports
Yes! Definitely want access! --David Shankbone 02:39, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

One big happy family
You do realise most people wouldn't consider a message saying "Don't leave, I don't hate you, I'm just challenging you so together we can make a better WN" to be "provocation", in fact it seems if anything to be an attempt to de-escalate things. But, if you really just want the excuse, "don't be a dick and try to make this issue something bigger than it is". Sherurcij 01:00, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

My Talk page
Dragon, I'm tired of warring with this user on my Talk page. Instead of leaving it alone, they have constantly been reverting me in an attempt to goad me into engagement, which is fruitless since both on the Watercooler and at Sean Heron's page the engagement has already taken place, I have nothing new to say, and it did no good regardless (which is why I was so pissed off on Heron's page, because I had explained what happened at the Watercooler and this POV user didn't care). I really want this to end. If they leave another comment on my talk page, I'd like them blocked for continually provoking me. --David Shankbone 02:44, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks :-) Two interviews tomorrow - it's going to be murder.  --David Shankbone 02:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

The issue over the Columbia article and Sherurcij
It's not the way Sherujic describes. Sherurcij does not seem to want to work together, collude, or attempt to better the project, but lord over editors with her own point of view as to what is right and what is not. There's no collaborative spirit that I can see. For a project as short-staffed as this, I find Sherurcij's behavior to engender more harm then her minor edits bring good, because she makes it an unpleasant atmosphere to work in. That's just my perspective. She spun wildly the way the situation went down on her own page. --David Shankbone 20:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) I went to Columbia to photograph the protest surrounding it. Reporters, except for four news agencies who supplied feeds, were not allowed in the auditorium.  Reporters were put into two overflow rooms with big screens.  During a paid working day I decided I could watch the video later on-line; it would be the same thing.
 * 2) I spent about three hours from the time I left my office to the time I returned.
 * 3) I went home and listened to the recordings I made of the protesters, download a gazillion photos, and try to write the article from scratch.
 * 4) I never had a chance to watch the debate, so I relied on the New York Times coverage of it. Turns out some things were, apparently, inaccurate.  I can't verify.
 * 5) I mainly wrote about what I covered, for which there was little problem except that some people didn't want a communist represented, whereas anther person didn't want "he's a terrorist" represented. I think I provided a well-rounded, comprehensive selection of viewpoints.
 * 6) Around 11:00 I was getting really tired and I was getting lost in the article. I also had to prepare to interview Tom Tancredo the next day.  I posted a message on the Watercooler, without publishing, that the article could use other editors to look at it and gave the reason I just stated.
 * 7) Sherurcij, who had earlier told me on the Trisha Posner interview that a common journalistic device (it's not mine) had legal problems (I went to law school), began trashing the article over a period of days. I was bothered by the tone of the edit summaries, but not that much.
 * 8) Sherurcij questioned whether Ahmadinejad is anti-Semitic, and I responded that his Holocaust-denial qualified. I never called Sherurcij anti-Semitic, just Ahmadinejad.
 * 9) Even if describing Iran's policy of killing gay people as "horrific" is POV, there were no attempts to engage me, but instead smack me in the face. That's not the way we should be helping each other write.
 * 10) During the Watercooler discussion about Wikinewsie bullies, I took the opportunity to discuss my feelings that the project suffers from politeness issues, and I raised my accreditation requests and Sherurcij's edit summaries as evidence. I explained during that discussion everything I explained above.  Sherurcij remained not only unapologetic, but defiantly defended everything she said and had done.
 * 11) Sean Heron told Sherurcij that she could be nicer on her page. She responded on his page by attacking my character, as she had done at the Watercooler.  This is when the situation devolved.  Once again, over an article that I did not publish and had flagged as needing help.  It was also only my second OR article, and I also based it off the New York Times.
 * 12) I responded inappropriately to Sherurcij's attacks on Sean Heron's page.
 * 13) But I also said I didn't want to engage Sherurcij anymore, and this was an issue that was much-talked about. But Sherurcij decided that she was going to push me by making comments that were rude and incivil on my talk page, and continually reverting my removal of them.  This was not an attempt to de-escalate, but an attempt to provoke me.  Which she also did by editing the Vivien Goldman interview, which I did nothing about.

Thanks on editing "African burial ground dedicated as National Monument" story
Thank you for editing the October 6 story "African burial ground dedicated as National Monument". I've been contributing over in Wikipedia on National Historic Landmarks; this was my first venture over to Wikinews. I appreciate your making it a positive experience for me, your cleaning it up, getting it out and published. The picture added a lot, especially. Doncram 18:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

re: paragrahps
Yeah, now that I look at my stories, you are correct. I will work on that for sure. Thanks for the compliment, though, and all of your help. Herb 22:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey Josh
Would you mind publishing the Burroughs piece on the blog for me? I'm trying to finish my Sam Brownback interview. I'd be grateful :-) --David Shankbone 03:00, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Email
FYI, I've sent you an email. JoshuaZ 17:19, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Question
Just wanted to say thanks for all your help in integrating myself into the Wikinews community. A quick question- I put in a request for accreditation, yet no one has voted on it. Did I do something wrong? Iamsam227 01:41, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Quick question on the PD debate...
Who was Benoit? Is there some context to this shitstorm that I'm missing? Sherurcij 00:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * had it been PD, then no one on Wikinews would have gotten credit for this article - as it was, did any major news outlets credit Wikinews? Because the fact you're showing that no, they just stole it from you...kinda illustrates my point that no "reputable media outlet" is going to credit "Wikinews" anyways, and that it often in fact would prevent them from using a story. I'm just curious if anybody of the other "reputable media outlets" actually did say "And in surprising news from Wikinews today, it seems that..." - or published your article in their newspaper with a little "Courtesy of WIkinews" tag beneath it?

 * I saw the story in print, but I didn't see your story in print, because your story was CC-BY. If it had been PD, then newspapers would've told the story the same way you did, not changed details just to get around copyright. Sherurcij 00:41, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Pinging
I get a sneaky feeling I've just missed you, but when you get this could you tell me what all the pinging (Talk:Aerosmith sued over late cancellation of gig in Maui, Hawaii) is all about? Because I may be up far too late, but I have no idea. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
...for the welcome. Listen, do you know if there is any way to transclude interwiki news feeds? I want to be able to monitor all Hawaii-related news articles on Wikinews from WikiProject Hawaii on Wikipedia, and allow our members to do the same. If this isn't possible, do you know if anyone is running Wikinews bots that could alert our members whenever a Hawaii-related news article is created, such as leaving a message on a Wikipedia user talk page or updating a subpage? I think this could really help improve the accuracy and coverage of Hawaii-related Wikinews topics. Viriditas 12:16, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No clue :( You can ask on the Water cooler though :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 12:17, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. Viriditas 12:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Just FYI
User:71.197.8.9 appears to be user EdBrown05, and is still editing. --David Shankbone 16:41, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Protected edits
Hi DragonFire1024! I've asked for some protected edits (three now), and well, they haven't been answered yet. I wondered if you could do them... Hope it doesn't bother you. Regards, Jurock (reply) 21:36, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Well, it's just adding what I put at the bottom of the explanation... (to see it afterwards, you have to refresh the cache...). Byes and thanks! - Jurock (reply) 22:12, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Sorry to bother again! But it's causing great double spacing... you must put the <noinclude> tag after the last character/letter. More details in: Template talk:Date. Sorry again - Jurock (reply) 00:13, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


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Thousands more evacuated in California, USA

October 23, 2007 Nearly 330,000 people in San Diego County, California located in the United States are being ordered to evacuate after massive wildfires started to spread and grow. As a result, U.S. President George W. Bush has declared a state of emergency in California clearing the way for federal aid assistance.

"All of us across this nation are concerned for the families who have lost their homes and the many families who have been evacuated from their homes. We send the help of the federal government," said Bush in a statement to the press. Almost 1,500 houses have been burned to ashes and fires continue to threaten nearly 60,000 more. Firefighters now fear that the fires could merge into one giant blaze if the Santa Ana Winds continue sending close to if not over 500,000 people running for safety. One person has died as a result of the fires with 42 injured. 16 of those are reported to be firefighters who were battling the blazes.

"It will not end ... until it reaches the ocean or the winds turn around," said San Diego County Fire Battalion Chief, Bruce Cartelli. At least 13 wildfires have burned more than 356,000 acres (142,400 hectares) in areas stretching from San Diego, near the border with Mexico, to Malibu, near Los Angeles. Air Station Miramar for the U.S. Air Force is also being evacuated with the base's planes and other military equipment being transported away from the raging fires to Arizona and places far north of the fires in California.


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Comments:Thousands more evacuated in California, USA

I hate that Smokey the bear thing. First they say that you shouldn't let a fire burn. Then they say that you should let it burn. Now they say that you shouldn't let it burn.

The truth about forest fires, is that it is a natural process that rejuvenates the landscape. If there is artificially no forest fire for too long, the underbrush gets too thick so that when it does burn it is catastrophic. Environmentalists really don't know what they are doing it seems. Contralya 19:52, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Most of these fire were a result of arson though. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 19:53, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Cool (or hot) satellite images. Good find and good usage. Much more useful than the close-up images of a single house on fire that main-stream media tends to use. --SVTCobra 00:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought so too. But neither are really compatible with the lead unfortunately. I am still looking for more though. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


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Hello,

Your recent contributions constitute vandalism and have been reverted. Should you believe that your contributions are *not* vandalism, please argue your case on your talk page, or in WN:ALERT.

Further vandalism may result in a 24 hour block. Please contribute to Wikinews in a constructive fashion instead. Thunderhead - (talk - email - contributions) 20:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

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UEFA Champions League 2007–08: Arsenal vs. Slavia Prague

October 23, 2007

Arsenal equalled the biggest-ever UEFA Champions League win today with a 7-0 win against. The win, which matched Juventus' mark against Olympiacos CFP in December 2003, was the Arsenal's 12th consecutive win in all competitions. The win keeps Arsenal's UEFA Champions League record this season perfect. The rematch comes in 15 days in Prague.


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Calls made for prosecution in light of Garuda Indonesia Flight 200 report

October 24, 2007

Australia is calling for criminal charges to be made in light of the final report into the Garuda Indonesia Flight 200 disaster, which was published yesterday. Five Australians were among the 21 killed when the Boeing 737 jetliner overshot the runway at Adisucipto International Airport, near Yogyakarta, Indonesia on March 7 this year. Australian Minister for Foreign affairs, Alexander Downer, said that the "very credible report" made it clear the two-man cockpit crew were responsible for the accident. The report found that alarms sounded no less than 15 times to warn the pilot in command that he was flying at an excessive speed for proper operation of the flaps, and that the co-pilot had also been ignored when he asked for a go-around to be made. The co-pilot was criticised for not taking control of the aircraft. The pilot was found to have ignored 15 emergency activations of the Ground Proximity Warning System telling him to slow down. Other criticisms were leveled at the inadequate training provided by the airline, the inadequate inspections by authorities, the lack of a mandatory runoff area at the runway and improper fire suppressants and slow response from the Aircraft Rescue and Firefighting facilities at the airport.

"I've asked our ambassador today to make it absolutely clear to the Indonesians that we want people prosecuted for this accident," said Downer. "I want to see people who have negligently allowed Australians … to be killed, I want to see those people brought to justice," he added. He has also expressed a pledge to discuss plans for a class action suit with survivors and relatives of victims, but he commented that "you're dealing with the Indonesian system here, it's a different system from our own, so it's not necessarily going to be very easy." Bill Madden from the law firm Slater and Gordon, who have a speciality in class actions, disagreed: "It would seem as though the families and people injured would have a fairly strong case," he said. "You'd be holding an airline responsible for the negligence of a pilot and that's a fairly standard approach that the law can follow."

Meanwhile, the 'Sydney Morning Herarld' spoke with Ari Sapari, head of operations at Garuda Indonesia. He told reporters that the pilots, who remain grounded after the crash, may be sacked next week, when any disciplinary action is expected to be announced. However, if they are charged over the crash, he has promised the airline will assist in their defence, saying "They are still our employees, up to now. They have the right to be assisted." Police say they are examining closely the possibility of charging both with manslaughter, which could see them sent to prison for up to five years if convicted. When queried about the fact that the report found the crew had not received adequate simulator training from the airline, he defended the company, saying "Nobody is perfect in this entire world." Since the suspension of the pilots, all other Garuda pilots have undergone the appropriate training missed out by Garuda.

Australian Prime Minister John Howard said in a statement made after the report came out "I am quite astonished. I can understand how people who are still grieving, both in Indonesia and Australia, might feel."

The Opposition Leader, Kevin Rudd, has said he has telephoned secretary-general of Indonesia's foreign affairs department and former ambassador to Australia Imron Cotan, telling him that he wanted those responsible "prosecuted to the absolute full". "This is a serious matter, many Australians visit Indonesia, Garuda is an often used airline and there is a basic national interest at stake here as well," he said. It is, however, stipulated in the Convention on International Civil Aviation that accident reports and related material, specifically transcripts of interviews, communications with crew and cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder (collectively known as black boxes) readouts, must not be used for any purpose other than determining the cause of an accident or incident. The only possible exception to this is where potential benefit would outweigh the "adverse domestic and international impact" on the investigation in question or any other either in progress or in the future. This legislation is in place to provide protection to witnesses on the basis that without it they may be less likely to cooperate with investigational procedures.

Downer's response to this law was to comment that "I think our first priority is to make sure those who are responsible - who survived the accident - are brought to justice." Aridono Sukman, the police member in charge of the criminal investigation, has said that the contents of the black box are vital evidence. Officials have commented that some relatives have expressed their frustration over the legal challenges involved in the prosecution effort.

Tatang Kurniadi, chairman of the Indonesian National Transportation Safety Committee, has already confirmed that investigators cannot speak to the police, with the only permitted testimony under the legislation being to testify at a court hearing. He also pointed out that the document does not actually appoint any blame. "The investigation determined the flight crews' compliance with procedures was not at the level to ensure the safe operation of the aircraft. That's enough," he said. However, Sisno Adiwinoto, a police spokesperson, told reporters the police would attempt to summon the investigators to court as expert witnesses on aviation, rather than as the actual investigators involved with the disaster.

Another fact that has become apparent is that the runway at Adisucipto International will not be lengthened to meet international standards despite assurances that work would begin shortly. The airport claims it cannot build the mandatory 90-metre runway end safety area because, says a small-print comment by the state-owned airport operator, the airport does not have the land." It has, however, promised to bring other airports under its jurisdiction up to standard, with work initialising next year. The company has also stated that a study of engineering methods providing alternative solutions could be completed by June.


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User:Mutton333

This is a Userpage

Mutton333
I am a relatively new user, but I go on wikinews everyday to see what's new. I like commenting on large stories, mostly. i also enjoy checking the articles through the science portal.

If some vulgar language has been turned into hyphens, it is probably my doing. I don't like swearing.

I hope that will hope you understand my comments better.

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User talk:72.148.46.106

Welcome
Thanks for experimenting with Wikinews. Your test worked, and has now been reverted or removed. Please use Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles may disrupt the site's working and will be reverted quickly. , welcome to Wikinews! Please refrain from using content pages for testing. Here are a few good links for newcomers on how to edit Wikinews:

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User:Dodge Story/sharing

The Userpage Sharing Project
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Users participating in the Userpage Sharing Project.

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User talk:Dodge Story/sharing

To subscribe or unsubscribe, add a comment here.

 * 1) Can I jump on board?
 * Sure, unknonwn person identified by the history! Thunderhead - (talk - email - contributions) 03:41, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

 * 1) Can I be added --User:Anonymous101 14:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Can I be added - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 11:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Please add me. Cocoaguytalkcontribs‽ 02:09, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Add! Hooyah! Tadpole256 (talk) 22:31, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) Include me also! aGastya    ✉ Dicere Aliquid :) 17:41, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * 6) i guess? --Begocc (talk) 08:44, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

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Pet parrot saves owners' lives

October 23, 2007 It turns out that dogs may not be the only 'man's best friend.' A parrot in Muncie, Indiana is being credited with saving the lives of its owners.

According to the owner 33-year-old Shannon Conwell along with his 9-year-old son were watching television when they both fell asleep on the living room couch when a fire began to spread through the house around 3:00 a.m. on Friday October 19.

The Amazon, yellow-headed Parrot named Peanut reportedly imitates the sounds of several objects and began to emit one very similar to a fire alarm, waking the family from their sleep.

"He was really screaming his head off. I grabbed my son and my bird and got out of the house," said Conwell who also said that the fire alarm was also going off, but the bird woke her and her son. Conwell said that there were several pieces of medical equipment inside the house that also make a lot of noise. The equipment was there due to an accidental finger amputation which occurred only a few hours prior to the fire.

A bedroom, the kitchen and the dining room were all severely damaged in the fire, but no one was injured or killed. The fire department says that they are currently investigating the incident and have not said what the cause was.

title: Pet parrot saves owners' lives