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User talk:MyName/Archive

Message for MessedRocker to relay to Cspurrier
Cspurrier, I would appricate if you could give a reason you blocked the IP I use for one week. Thanks MyName 23:48, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The IP was being used to impersonate other users. Please contact your isp about the abuse being conducted with this ip to prevent future blocks.--Cspurrier 00:52, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Notice
I am the owner of Vandal's Laywer. MyName 22:28, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Alright. It's a very noble cause to assist people who have been blocked, however I'll have to ask you to do it under your own account. —     22:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay then, I put notices on my pages. Thanks. MyName 22:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hay, Anybody know how long autoblocks last on Wikinews? MyName 23:27, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to my talk

Hi there. Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * thanks MyName 23:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Editing Starts Tomorrow
Probally won't get around to doing any editing tonight (finals exams) tomorrow I will start though. MyName 23:40, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Password
Would you be kind enough to send the password to User:RadioKirk to my e-mail address? Thank you. RadioKirk2 03:24, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Never mind, Rappy. Took me long enough, didn't it?
 * You know, as Wikipedia aspires to build "the sum of all human knowledge", it's understandable that people from different regions of the world with different opinions and different culures would differ, sometimes violently, as to what is acceptable and what is not within the encyclopedia. The ones who treat it as a game escape me; surely there are things more fun than spray-painting the walls, so to speak. You've said being productive is for sometime in the future; why?  Radio Kirk    talk to me   05:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * RadioKirk, the future is now. MyName 16:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to hear it; though it's frankly tough to believe, given your history at WP and your creation of an impostor account here—and particularly since you were caught impersonating me in IRC. Please do not forget that your "'forced' vacation" from WP was something you forced us to do; nevertheless, I do hope you have seen that vandalization is not fun—especially for those of us who clean it up (admins are janitors, don't forget)—and that helping to build the encyclopedia is far, far more rewarding. I can tell you it pleases me no end to have created two featured articles and all but recreated the third.  Radio Kirk    talk to me   17:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I, too, hope you'll prove it to me. I do have an additional question, though: Shall I request a CheckUser or are you also User:Nanook?  Radio Kirk    talk to me   17:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * No need. You may request to have the account deleted as it is (regrettably on my part) me. MyName 17:50, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Alright.  Radio Kirk    talk to me   18:01, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * So Nanook is MyName as well (I had a sneking suspicion of that). Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 00:25, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Develop
yes there is a list. Workspace, template:developing stories as well as a list on the lower right of the main page. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:25, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem.
— THIS IS M ESSED OCKER  (TALK) 01:48, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: First article
Looks good. As it turns out, I write news for a living, though radio news and print news are completely different animals. Still, I believe I've removed the POV from Iraqi police, witness: US troops kill pregnant Iraqi woman in car entering "no-go" zone. :) <tt> Radio Kirk </tt>  <tt> talk to me </tt>  02:38, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Thanks.
Per my understanding, there is more than one RadioKirk and, as far as I know, none of us is notable. Any such article would be speedied. :) <tt> Radio Kirk </tt>  <tt> talk to me </tt>  02:50, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Not bad...
...with the Air Marshal one... 68.39.174.238 02:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

 * HeHe, we need more of those... mind if I ask who you were on WpA? If you're trying to complete restart, don't answer (It's not really my buissiness anyway!). Thanx again. 68.39.174.238 03:15, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I don't recognize either, which is I guess a good thing. Hope I see more news from you ;D! 68.39.174.238 03:19, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Q
Replied. <tt> Radio Kirk </tt>  <tt> talk to me </tt>  03:24, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

12 arrested in Canadian counter-terrorism operation
well, at a first look I wouldnt include the names as they are only suspected, brb international 16:15, 3 June 2006 (UTC) But exept that, if you remove the names, I think its ok. If all is correct I guess a lot of suffering has been prevented. international 16:19, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * As I said they are suspected. Remember that you are responsible for naming them. If they found unguilty you are in trouble naming them. Usually naming in news is after somone found guilty in court. international 16:23, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Wikifying or to make wikilinks. Find words in article that hav Wikipediareferences and use this code:

Canadian

 * Look at it in 'editmode' and see that first word (here Canada) is the title to Wikipedia article. The second (here Canadian) is the word seen with its hyperlink international 16:33, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Guess this was your second publishing of by yourself mostly edited article. Congratulations and welcome Wikinewsie :D international 16:47, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:Request for Review.
It looks ready for publishing and is a nicely written article too. You might want to add links to Wikipedia by using the template shown in the bottom of the edit window, where possible. If you can find any related stories, include those too. I think you were right in revealing the names of those arrested since you have not implied that they are guilty. Thanks for your contribution and you need any more help please don't hesitate to ask. PVJ  (Talk) 16:25, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Spelling correct
Just to note, your "spelling correction" here was not necessarily needed; "litres" is a perfectly acceptable spelling. However, I've decided to not revert, since you did other things, too. — THIS IS M ESSED OCKER  (TALK) 18:57, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

RE: Hi
Hi yourself and welcome to the wikinews club LOL - Cartman02au <SMALL>(Talk)(AU Portal)</SMALL> 00:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

New Gender Gap
I Removed this.

by the year 2020 women will own more then 95% of wealth in United States.

Put this in. 401(k)s value used to be in balance between man and Women but in only 10 years there has been a 32% increase in the value womens 401(k)s to 2/3 if this trend continues for the next 10 years women will have 87% of the balance.

I hope this is now OK with you Free them 12:08, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

hello
Can the tag "Notnews" please be removed from New Gender Gap  Free them 13:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks.
Thanks for the welcome. Pandoo 19:31, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey buddy
When you get unblocked; stay unblocked. The project needs you. I put in a request with CSpurrier; we'll see. Neutralizer 14:24, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the encouragement. I'm glad to see you're unblocked now also.  I joined after you had already been blocked for a month or so, and I don’t really know the reason why, but you seem like a strong Wikinewsie. :-D MyName 01:27, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Question
Any particular reason you're vandalising your own user page and distorting other people's votes on your RfA? --Deprifry|+T+ 18:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It seems as if my password was compromised. I changed it now! We are having the same problem on Wikipedia. You can contact RadioKirk about it. MyName 21:09, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * P.S. can you revert my Userpage because I'm blocked form editing. Thanks. MyName 21:10, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:200.126.214.43

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User:Kjoonlee

Hi. :)

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User talk:Silversmith~enwikinews

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Your account will be renamed
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User talk:203.194.43.165

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Talk:Latvian anti-gay protesters attack gay activists

Just Fixed up some grammatical errors. -R. E.

Was the ban mentioned supposed to be removed? That seems like important info. 66.245.38.107 22:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


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User talk:211.30.164.13

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Two New Zealand children die in fire

July 24, 2006

Two children living in a bach (a small holiday home) in Motueka, New Zealand died in a fire on Saturday night. The two children who perished in the 10.25 p.m. fire were an 11-year-old girl, Charna Maria Baileys Edwards and a 12-year-old boy, Whetumarama James Edwards.

The New Zealand Police say that the cause of the fire was ashes taken from a log fire and then placed in a plastic bucket. The ashes then reignited.

Also injured in the fire was the children's grandmother, 54-year-old, legal guardian to the two children, and an uncle, 34. A firefighter also received minor injuries. They are all being treated in Nelson Hospital and are in a stable condition.

Grief counsellors have been sent to Lower Moutere School where the two children went to school. Eric Davies, principal of Lower Moutere School, told National Radio "The families of the classes that the children were in have been contacted and asked if they could discuss it with their kids."

Kevin Whitlow, a witness to the fire, told The Press "It was horrendous knowing there were two children stuck in there and there was nothing you could do because it was already too late. The woman just kept saying, `Save my grandchildren, my grandchildren are in there'."

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User talk:222.154.54.219

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User talk:Imedia~enwikinews

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article tags
please do not remove article tags, such as without addressing the concerns raised in them. the tags are meant to alert editors to improve the state of the article before it is published. Doldrums 09:56, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
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User talk:Kaopeeleonisaarsgaard

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stop!
do not remove tags from articles, it is considered vandalism. Doldrums 11:18, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikinews. Please use Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles will be reverted quickly. Doldrums 11:20, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

if u want ur articles to stay
.. then i strongly advise u to read the links in the welcome message above. if u want to test out how wikinews works, try the sandbox. Doldrums 11:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:Wallins

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User talk:Kaopeeleonisaarsgaards

You are right, some guy created a site, but the whole point of the application of this article is to discuss the legal implications, do you think google will let it be?

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Atlantis departs hangar ahead of August 28 launch

July 24, 2006

The Space Shuttle Atlantis has entered final preparation for mission STS-115, and has begun movement from its hangar at the OPF, to the VAB, where it will be attached to its external tank and solid rocket boosters. The first motion occurred at 11:34 GMT (07:34 EDT)

This will be the third mission since the loss of the Space Shuttle Columbia on mission STS-107, and the first ISS assembly mission in four years. It will also be the first time Atlantis has flown since 2002.

The move, which is currently in progress, is expected to take about an hour. Rollout to the pad is scheduled for August 1st, ahead of an August 28th launch date. It is possible that these may be brought forward for an August 27th launch, which would make it the first time in NASA history a manned spaceflight has occurred earlier than originally scheduled.

The flight will deliver a truss and solar panels to the space station.


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User talk:210.212.253.227

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User talk:216.97.176.152

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User talk:Mabil~enwikinews

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Your account will be renamed
Hello,

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AMD joins forces with ATI

July 24, 2006

Technology giants Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) and ATI Technologies Inc. (ATI) today announced plans to merge. Canadian ATI will be bought by the Californian AMD for 5.4 billion dollars ($4.2 billion in cash and $1.2 billion in stock).

The ATI Technologies Inc. (ATI) acquisition is being funded by a $2.5 billion loan, plus cash and cash equivalents and short-term investment balances of approximately $3.0 billion. That’s total funding of $5.5 billion.

Many people believe Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) to be taking too much of a risk, that AMD is "betting the farm on a deal that might be very questionable."

The new firm will employ near 14900 people for 7.3 billions dollars earning. The two firms announced they'll plan no job cutting in the process of merging.

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Pope calls for Middle East peace

July 24, 2006

Pope Benedict XVI called on people of all religions to join Sunday's worldwide day of prayers for peace on Friday July 21, 2006.

The Pope spent an hour hiking in the Big Paradise National Park, returning to his mountain retreat just as rain started to fall. He said the gorgeous mountain vistas further impressed on him the gravity of the crisis.

"I think it is best to leave that to the diplomats, because we don't enter politics. But we do everything for peace. Our goal is simply peace, and we will do everything to help attain peace," Pope Benedict XVI said, after he returned from an hour-long hike in the Italian Alps.

"Especially from Lebanon, who implored us, as they have implored the Italian government, to help." "We will help with our prayers and with the people we have in Lebanon," said the pope.

"Seeing this peace that God gives me, I am even more struck by the suffering of many others," he said.

People around the world prayed for peace. In Washington Archbishop Donald W. Wuerl, repeated the Vatican's call for an immediate cease-fire.

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Melbourne Derby
thanks for the quick follow-up, Gnangarra. it's absolutely ok to remove tags urself after addressing the concerns raised in them. and it's nice to see articles on topics infrequently covered here on wikinews. — Doldrums(talk) 08:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

 * I other words, publish the story Gnangarra. -Edbrown05 08:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Perth fires
good work on the OR! do remember to take care while at it. — Doldrums(talk) 15:41, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

updates
creating a new article is the better idea, particularly if there's enough material for atleast a short article. u can link to the old article in the new one by using the wikinews tag in a Related news section. if there isn't enough material to warrant a new article, u can add to today's Shorts - a compilation of brief reports for the day.

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RE: Horse flu
Thanks for your comments. Your article looks good also and covers the issue from another angle. I am not too sure that publishing needs to be held up but if more information comes out tonight it may be a good idea to add it. I can't think of anything to add at this stage - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 06:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Horse flu damage spreads
Great job on the Horse flu article. -- IlyaHaykinson 08:55, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * thanks Gnangarra 08:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Hola!
Hey Gnangarra! Nice job on the chaser article! I can't wait to see their next episode, yay for perth news (wait, it's in sydney :' anyway, how long have you been on wikinews? Symode09 13:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

RE: Article 10K
I hadn't even realised that I wrote the 10,000th article LOL, thanks for the congratulations though -Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 07:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Apache fire
Hey good one! SatuSuro (talk) 13:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

2011 Commonwealth heads of government meeting opens amid protests of war crimes
Hi. There are improvements called for by review of this article. See review comments on the article talk. --Pi zero (talk) 23:01, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

 * Sorry I'm being so slow with the article; granted, we're shorthanded at the moment, but I'd be moving on it a bit faster than this if I could. It's a technical problem on my end, you might say:  We're in the middle of a multi-day power outage here (along with maybe half a million other people in New England), and I only get to access the internet for a few hours twice a day. :-(   --Pi zero (talk) 12:13, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

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Victoria Cross fetches record price at auction

July 24, 2006

The auction house Bonhams and Goodman have sold the last privately owned Victoria Cross awarded at the World War I Gallipoli campaign in Sydney tonight. The medal was awarded to New Zealand-born Australian soldier Captain Alfred Shout. The sale price of $A 1 million surpassed the previous record of $A575,000 set in 2004 for the VC medal awarded to Sergeant Norman Jackson of the RAF 1944.

The Victoria Cross is the highest recognition for valour "in the face of the enemy" that can be awarded to members of the British and Commonwealth armed forces and civilians under military command. It is also the highest award in the British Honours system.

The buyer is an Australian businessman, auctioneer Mr Tim Goodman said "I can confirm the buyer is a prominent Australian businessman who is going to work with the RSL to make sure the medals go on display at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra", after commissions and other charges the successful buyer will pay $A1,214,500.

The addition of this medal will take the display of Victoria Crosses at the Australian War Memorial to 60. The display will include all nine Victoria Crosses awarded to Australian servicemen at Gallipoli.


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the expression "shout VC" doesn't make much sense to the many people who are unfamiliar with the captain. suggest renaming to something like "Victoria Cross fetches record price at auction". Doldrums 16:09, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

That sounds a lot better. Gnangarra 16:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Look almost complete to me, only the last para not quite sure it reads well any suggestions Gnangarra 16:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

 * go ahead and :) Doldrums 16:39, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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editprotected Please add missing image and a space in "Victoria Cross(VC)" and remove the period from Goodman's quote. Heavy Water (talk) 21:28, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ --SVTCobra 13:52, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
 * What about the space? Heavy Water (talk) 15:15, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
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Talk:Lebanon faces humanitarian crisis

This... http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/285B14DF-5EE4-4733-ACB4-F2EE55F3E0BA.htm may be extremely newsworthy - but it needs additional sources to be verified, because aljazeera reports from a muslim-POV. --82.141.54.242 16:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

- Are you suggesting that Muslim point of view means you can tell lies witout backing them up with citable facts?

I guess a better wording for this could be: "This is from a news agency XXXXXX. Please check citations and references carefully, because this news agency is not reputable." or something like that.

Anyhow, I checked your link at AlJazeerra.net and it referred to AFP (Associated French Press).

I checked AFP's newest news from this conflict:

By the way, does anyone know any weblogs from Lebanon that could tell first hand experiences? Is there any working Internet connection over there still? It seems like a lot of places might have trouble even getting water, electricity, medical treatment, medicines, and food.

I found following blogs from Lebanese:

These blogs are NOT from Lebanese, I guess, but still talk this issue from a fresh point of view:

About self censorship of the media covering this issue:

Then again, can anyone find blogs from Israeli side? How much they have suffered from the rocket attacks?

This could be perhaps Israeli point of view blog:

Tuomaskk 14:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC) Tuomas K. Kaikkonen

a revert
I revertes som vandalism and a edit of Ealturner, though absolutly not vandalism. Ealturners edits goes by dodrums argumentation that article is publiched and preferible not edited any more. international 14:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Choose your words carefully and stay civil.

 * Mr. Egeland appealed for both sides to put a halt to attacks and that "Hezbollah must stop this cowardly blending ... among women and children."

 * The article selectively quotes Mr. Engeland. This quote gives NPOV to the article as Mr. Engeland places responsibility of the humanitarian crisis both on Hezbollah and Israel. Ealturner 22:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

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Vandalism
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The time is 22:00 (UTC) on July 24th, 2006, and this is Audio Wikinews News Briefs.

Lebanon faces humanitarian crisis
Lebanon

More than half a million people have been displaced in Lebanon as the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah continues into its second week.

PCC promotes new wave of attacks in Brazil
Brazil

The criminal organization known as PCC (Primeiro Comando da Capital, Portuguese for First Command of the Capital City) promotes a new wave of attacks against civil and authority targets in Brazil which began early July. The main attacks are occurring in São Paulo state.

Atlantis departs hangar ahead of August 28 launch
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The Space Shuttle Atlantis has entered final preparation for mission STS-115, and has begun movement from its hangar at the Orbiter Processing Facility, to the Vehicle Assembly Building , where it will be attached to its external tank and solid rocket boosters.

Two New Zealand children die in fire
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Two children living in a small holiday home in Motueka, New Zealand died in a fire on Saturday night.

Victoria Cross fetches record price at auction
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The auction house Bonhams and Goodman have sold the last privately owned Victoria Cross awarded at the World War I, to Gallipoli campaign in Sydney tonight.

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User talk:Neutralizer

RIP Neutralizer
He passed on Valentines Day

 * It saddens me to hear this. While he was a very controversial figure in wikinews, he had a large role to play in the development of our project. Without his influence, Wikinews would not be what it is today. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:41, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree with bawolff. I had no idea. Any way we can verify this? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:41, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

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k; i guess that's it then. all the best and just try to think about the readers and try to give them something they won't find on Fox or Cnn. Otherwise, this will not look any better a year from now.

Thanks

 * To Eloquence,Amgine,DV, and Ed for helping me get started
 * To Nyarlathotep,Simeon,International,Ed,the German contrib(begins with a V) and PVJ59 for constant support.
 * To Dan100 for writing this

and
 * thanks to the readers whoever and wherever they are.

the future of wikinews

 * When 8 of the 10 editors with the most contributions in any one month ever put a petition on this page asking me to come back, I will. However, with the current rate of progress in collective mentality; I expect that may be after I am dead.

 * In the meantime,this will not improve until you are able to differentiate your product from the systemic propaganda people can find on western media. Until you use the word "terrorists" for the people who kill the most civilians as well as the people who kill less; or else don't use the word at all, thinking young people will not waste their time reading your work.

2 parting gifts

 * and now, I'll leave you with something that can change your life; Neutralizer 02:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

 * "Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never--in nothing, great or small, large or petty--never give in, except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force." -Churchill

 * and 1 observation which slowly brought understanding to me of what the hell is really going on in this world.
 * 9 men were responsible for creating,financing and supplying america's enemies and other types of war promotion/profiteering as well as the secretization of american government with the 1947 National Security Act and subsequent amendments. Had none of these men been born, the world may have well been spared WW2, Korean war, Vietnam War, and the current War on Terror. All 9 have an allegiance to something which transcends,by oath, all their other personal,commercial,spiritual and national allegiances. That allegiance is the observation to which I refer. Occam's razor must be employed to open the door to this, the mother of all escapes to reality. You may feel unsettled and in denial if you dare to go down this path. This economist's books are a good guide and reassurance that what you are finding out is actually real.

 * Averell Harriman,Prescott Bush, Robert Lovett, George Walker, Roland Harriman, George H.W. Bush, William Bundy, George W. Bush, McGeorge Bundy.

So long
I have decided to leave Wikinews following the RfDA. I just want to thank you for the help and support you have offered me throughout my career here. It has been great to have worked with you, and I hope things work out for you soon. Best regards. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) 10:07, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Afghan nonsense
Figure#2 page#8

Notice the Taliban were able to completely halt opium production in 2001 after the TALIBAN outlawed it as being contrary to the teachings of Islam.

Now our politicians tell you the USA/UK etc.can't stop it. Of course the USA doesn't do the aerial spraying in Afghanistan like they do in Columbia and, oh yeah, the CIA also says Afghan opium is the primary source of funding for al-Queda.

They must really think you're stupid. Neutralizer 13:52, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Truth Alone Triumphs PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 15:08, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

New Policy has users up in smoke
Hello. I am not sure if you check this page anymore, but I thought you might be interested as to what is going on here at Wikinews: Image use policy/New wikimedia policy action plan. I am outraged as well as others...do you have an opinion? DragonFire1024 09:38, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Unblocked
As per your parole agreement, your 6 month ban imposed has expired on April 5. You can freely edit Wikinews :) DragonFire1024 11:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Looking forward to working with you again neut. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 11:30, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd like to point out, that his block was extended past six months for trying to evade his block. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Please Bawolff, anyway, DF was the User who extended his block, and DF also supports the removal of the block Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 03:21, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

A Hopeful Request
Hello Neutralizer,

I would like to make a request that you come back onboard with Wikinews. The project needs you. Your opinions and contributions are needed to make Wikinews function as a neutral and fair new source. I see you've stated above "When 8 of the 10 editors with the most contributions in any one month ever put a petition on this page asking me to come back, I will." I'm going to take the first step to start that petition. I hope all Wikinewsies with good heads on their solder will sign it. We miss you. Ycanneh 21:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Petition
 * Come on back, Neut! Ycanneh 21:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know if your vote counts, but based on this, and the head on my shoulders, I'll sign.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No. never ever This user has been banned from evry single wikimedia foundation project, on threat of having an abuse report sent to his isp. He is the single reason for the creation of the arbitration committe, he has caused the most disruption in all of the time I've been at wikinews. He's caused wheel wars, He has caused a significant number of contributors quit, He is a conspiracy nut, Calls people he disagrees with agents of the united states governemnt. and much more. I say good ridence to him, and don't want him to ever come back. Sorry if that was a little harsh. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Nope. I didn't work with Neutralizer, but from what I've been told by other contributors, he was a nusiance.  Thunderhead  ►  23:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes: If the user agrees to contribute in a good way why not? DragonFire1024 09:42, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd just like to take the time to point out that there have been several (million) promises in the past for please oh please forgive me. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:24, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No, not welcome. Besides, this poll was started by one of the other people that aided and abetted Neutralizer in serious disruption of the site.  User is incapable of following NPOV or working towards consensus.  Caused serious site disruption and - prior to block - was running his personal Jihad against the U.S. Government, trying to use Wikinews as his platform for an extreme POV that was only supported by conspiracy theorist nut-jobs and people who believe there is a secret world government. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment: above comment breaches Wikinews:Etiquette"Don't label or personally attack people or their edits".Brianmc's personal pro-US Jihad is only supported by reality deniers who would refer to people like Smedley Darlington Butler (who won the Medal of Honor TWICE and is the most decorated Marine in U.S. history)as a "conspiracy nut". 67.71.121.47 13:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

When I came back, I found it to be a much better place. Until now, I hadn't made the connection that it was the absence of Neutralizer. could have been a coincidence --SVTCobra 23:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That's intresting. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:24, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Hell Yes Come back Neut. Wikinews missed you Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 03:13, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Come back and don't do what you used to do, instigate (I'm guilty of that too) if that is possible. If I have it right, MessedRocker, who had it wrong, left. Give it a try. -Edbrown05 09:33, 21 April 2007 (UTC)... yes it is possible I instigate :) unsigned guess who, ED

He's on YouTube
and getting a lot of views. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyR9cotGvIA 65.95.151.160 14:19, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

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California students continue struggle with Exit Exam in classrooms, courtroom

July 25, 2006

Class of 2006 students who have so far failed to conquer the California High School Exit Exam (CAHSEE) will continue the struggle today in classrooms across the state, and also in a San Francisco courtroom.

Some of the nearly one in ten members of the Class of 2006 who still haven't passed the CAHSEE weeks after their scheduled graduations, including dozens from James Logan High School's Class of 2006, will get another crack at it starting today at high schools around the state, when schools administer an additional last chance two-day test, added to the testing schedule in April in response to the number of seniors who still hadn't passed.

Meanwhile, California's First District Appellate Court of California this morning will begin hearing arguments in a lawsuit that aims to prohibit the state from requiring students to pass the test, and force it to give them the diplomas they currently lack.

According to testing statistics released by the, 1,759 California seniors passed the test when they took it in May, the last time the test was administered, bringing the total percentage of last year's seniors to pass the test to an estimated 90.8 percent, or 396,201 of 436,374 members of the Class of 2006.

However, that number does not include over 22,000 special education students who were not required to pass the test this year.

Jack O'Connell, who wrote the law which required students to pass the test when he was a state legislator, expressed muted pleasure at the results, which indicate a narrowing of the "achievement gap" between racial groups. "While I will not be satisfied until all California students are successful in gaining the skills measured by the exit exam, I am pleased that the achievement gap is narrowing," O'Connell said. "It is clear that all students are working hard to gain the critical skills necessary for a diploma and for survival in today's global economy. I credit the exit exam for focusing both students and schools on meeting this challenge. We need to sustain this effort until the achievement gap is erased completely."

"Eighty-five percent of Hispanic students in the Class of 2006 have passed the test, with 19.7 percent passing during the junior year and nearly 11 percent passing in their senior year," according to a statement released by O'Connell. "By comparison, 11.5 percent of white students passed as juniors and 4.1 percent of white students passed as seniors. Eighty-three percent of African American students have passed the test, with 20.6 percent passing as juniors and 12 percent passing as seniors."

About 70 seniors at James Logan High School, mostly minorities and those who are learning English, had to take the May test.

O'Connell said that the estimated 40,173 students who haven't passed the test should not give up trying to get a high school diploma or more education: "I urge these students to continue to work in summer school, take a fifth year of high school, or study in adult school or community college to acquire those important skills in English and math," O'Connell said. "This exam benefits students who are still struggling by focusing them on areas they need to strengthen so they can have more successful futures."

The last chance to pass the 2006 test begins this morning, as seniors and adult school students begin taking the English/Language Arts portion of the CAHSEE. Tomorrow, the Mathematics portion of the test will be administered. The summer administration of the test starting today was added to the testing schedule in April, in response to requests from school districts around the state.

In the court case against the test, the California Court of Appeals will hear argument at 9:30 a.m. at 350 McAllister in San Francisco.

In court, Arturo Gonzalez, lead attorney in the case, Valenzuela vs. O'Connell, named for Liliana Valenzuela, a Richmond High School student, will try to convince the First Appellate Court of California to uphold a Superior Court judge's May ruling blocking the state's use of the test, on the grounds that it's use as a graduation requirement was unconstitutional because poor and minority students don't have access to equal educational resources, and therefore don't have equal protection under the law.

The judge, Robert Freedman of, issued an injunction against the use of the test, briefly giving hope of graduation without passing to thousands of students statewide, but O'Connell appealed to the state Supreme Court and they stayed the judge's injunction, allowing the state to order schools to deny diplomas to those who hadn't passed the test. The Supreme Court also ordered the First District Appellate Court to hear the case, which the court scheduled for today.

"If the appellate court affirms the injunction, then any student who has passed all of his or her required courses will receive a high school diploma," Gonzalez said in an e-mail to the James Logan Courier

The two-day exam tests students on middle school level math and algebra and ninth and 10th grade-level English. Students take the test for the first time as sophomores, again as juniors if they didn’t pass it as 10th graders, and several times as seniors if needed.


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As usual, I wrote this for my high school's news blog, and am reposting it to wikinews for its use. I release it under the CCA 2.5 license. I've written a series of stories on this subject for the school's blog and wikinews. There is a statement on the school blog releasing this and other articles under Creative Commons.

This is original reporting. In addition to getting the press release from the state, I obtained email comment from the lead attorney for the plaintiff.

This article is actually ready to go, except for a few tweaks to make it fit wikinews better.JLCourier 05:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

"Passted" the test? You need to check you spelling before submitting.

 * pls observe Etiquette while interacting with other editors.

Doldrums 07:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * yes, you are right Doldrums,to be fair is very important. People 'll inderstand we have no one to correct our writing like into pro newspapers, except ourself ... :) Jacques Divol 10:08, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I've fixed it - thanks for bringing it to attention... --R2b2 07:53, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


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New Zealand man arrested for murdering teacher

July 25, 2006

A 23-year-old man has been arrested for the murder of a school teacher, Lois Dear. Dear's body was found on July 16 (Sunday) in her classroom at, one day before term three of the New Zealand primary school year was to start.

The accused murderer, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was arrested on Monday night at a camp and appeared in court today.

A large crowd of media personnel and onlookers gathered outside the packed courtroom. Twenty to thirty people had to remain outside. Many of the people who had gathered outside the courtroom abused the accused man as he walked to the courtroom. One said "You'll never make sentencing." Armed police also were deployed to protect the alleged murderer.

One person, who did not want to be named, said she "had come to let people know who had been arrested." She shouted the name out as the accused walked by.

The accused was remanded and is to appear back in court next week.

Murray Kendrick, principal of Strathmore Primary School, said that he "knew an arrest was imminent, and is relieved it has happened so quickly."

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Talk:PCC promotes new wave of attacks in Brazil

Noting POV concerns
It is hard to believe that a group would simply promote a wave of attacks - surely they have a motive that is being omitted by the author of this news story. Also, this article seems to mostly reprint what is said by "Secretary of Public Security of São Paulo" - who could be reasonably considered as biased on this issue. Bill3 08:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * sorry, but it's a fact, not something to believe in. PCC is a mafia group, not a political party. there's no pov concern here, just a lack of knowledge. Jacques Divol 10:01, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

 * If that's true, then the article must be fixed to not rely on local knowledge. To a non-Brazillians (and last time I checked, that's a significant number of people) this article is not useful and reads like a pamphlet.  These "facts" need explaining or referencing, like real news sources do.  In particular, the motive has to be mentioned.  If they do this for fun, say that.  If they do it to scare businesses into giving them protection money, say that.  If they are doing it to show that they are the dominant mafia/gang, say that. Bill3 22:12, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

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PCC is a true criminal organization whose main leaders are inspired by some ideals of Marxist Revolutions. During Brazilian Militar Regime, the dictatorship put left wing politicals prisioners in jail along ordinary criminals (See: main this and this for some background). Some possible reasons: some PCC leaders dont want to be moved to high security prisons, they do that because they are criminals, political reasons (who knows?). I think that is not an exactly reason for sure. Read what the press has said and get your own personal conclusions.

São Paulo state is bigger than the United Kingdom and most countries in Europe. The news has been broadasted by Reuters and other mainstream media. PCC has some links with the Colombian FARC. It has been reported that the Colombian FARC has some links with Al-Qaeda, Hamas or other radical islamist organizations. Also it has been reported that the FARC has some links (or at least the simpathy) of Cuban, Brazilian and Venezuelan governments. This thing is interesting, isn't it?

Isn't the Secretary of Public of SP (the Police from SP) a trusted source? Off the record: if you think that the numbers released by the Secretary of Public of SP are over exagerated, you also should know that the real numbers are bigger than that.

More sources below:

Portuguese
 * Folha de SP
 * O Estado de SP
 * Estado de SP (photos)
 * Brazilian Parliament
 * Agencia Brasil (Brazilian government press service)
 * VEJA
 * Isto É
 * PCC (video)
 * Workers Party and PCC, parliament discussions. Opposition leaders speculated very possible but not confirmed liasons between Workers Party and PCC (video)

I could find a lot more, however in Portuguese. Unfortunately I dont have too much time.

Some English sources I could find
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I know it is difficult for you non-Portuguese speakers. However you must understand that it is not my fault if English media doesn't report what happens here in Brazil. I just try to do my best, my time is scarse, it is difficult to me too finding English sources so other people can understand. I dont blame you, you are right in certain aspects, but you have to understand that I am alone here and just do what I can. I would like to do more, but I cant.

If you think that this thing is not possible, I cant do anything except stop contributing. There should be a better system so stories from non-English countries could be checked. I cant do it alone. That is my suggestion for you. Excuse my English. Thank you.--Carlosar 15:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


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Current Israel Hezbollah conflict being compared with "Operation Grapes of Wrath"

July 27, 2006

On Sunday, Dr. Azmi Bishara, leader of the Balad Arab nationalist political party in Israel and member of the Israeli Knesset (Israeli Parliament) compared the current military actions by Israel unfavorably with similar previous conflicts in Lebanon. In an article for the Arab Times Bishara said; "The only difference between today and the earlier bombardments — the 'Day of Reckoning' and 'Grapes of Wrath' between 1993 and 1996 — is that Syrian forces are no longer present in Lebanon."

American Spencer Witt, who is filing daily reports from Lebanon, compared the difficulty average citizens are having today with those experienced during past operations; "Etienne was a freshman in high school during Operation Grapes of Wrath — 16 days of Israeli strikes that resulted in the destruction of Lebanese power plants and left much of the country in the dark. And now this." Witt said.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has said that the killing of 8 Israeli soldiers and the abduction of another two soldiers by Hezbollah militants on July 12 was an act of war; "The murderous attack this morning was not a terror attack but an act of war," Olmert said. Lebanon has Hezbollah members in its parliament and "must bear full responsibility. Israel's response will be restrained but very, very, very painful." Olmert said on July 12, 2006.

Olmert told Israeli legislators today that; "We want a two-kilometer (1.2-mile) space from the border in which it will not be possible to fire rockets toward soldiers and civilians houses and in which there will not be contact with military border patrols."

Israeli soldiers previously patrolled a "security zone" during Israel's 18-year occupation of south Lebanon. Olmert said today; "We do not have any intention of returning to the security zone but want to create an area where there will be no Hezbollah." and he repeated Israel's call for an international force (being referred to as "muscular" or "robust") to be put on the Israel-Lebanon border.

"We need international intervention forces that have military capabilities and ability to respond and enforce, and not forces similar to UNIFIL." he said, referring to U.N. peacekeepers. "I don't know when there will be a cease-fire. This is difficult, but we will stand up to this. ... We want to end the violent operation as quickly as possible but we won't end it before we believe we can achieve results that justify the price we have paid."

Dr. Bishara lambasted every aspect of Israel's position in this current conflict; "Any comparison between Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's and Hezbollah chief Nasrallah's political rhetoric must conclude that the latter is the more rational. His speeches are more consistent with the facts and rely less than Olmert's on religious expressions and allusions...Israeli politicians have no cultural or moral edge over resistance leaders. The latter are far less attached to Iran than the former are to the US...The people who unleashed the brutal war against Lebanon are neither intelligent nor courageous. Quite the opposite; they are mediocrities, cowards and opportunists, but they happen to have military superiority. And they possess the keys to the machinery of a state, a real state, one that is secure in its identity, that has clear national security goals and channels of national mobilization, as opposed to a long deferred project for statehood and a states built on the fragmentation of national identity."

Regarding the current conflict, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told an Israeli parliament committee Wednesday that Israel would not reoccupy any part of southern Lebanon.

However, speaking on Israeli army radio, Justice Minister Haim Ramon - a close confidant of Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert - said "everyone understands that a victory for Hezbollah is a victory for world terror". He said that in order to prevent casualties amongst Israeli soldiers battling Hezbollah militants in southern Lebanon, villages should be flattened by the Israeli air force before ground troops move in.

"All those now in south Lebanon are terrorists who are related in some way to Hezbollah," Mr Ramon said.

Mr Ramon's call for the use of greater firepower came as the Israeli cabinet was set to decide whether to broaden its military offensive.


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NPOV
Please do not publish until npov is provided. I will attempt npov later if not done by others. Neutralizer 12:50, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Spelling fix?
I changed, “unfavourably” to, “unfavorably” to fix spelling. I now realize, however, that this could have been a British spelling, if so feel free to revert. MyName 14:02, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

pov
article largely recounts one individual's opinion and makes no effort to offer other perspectives. also, needs to mention who is Dr. Azmi Bishara? Doldrums 07:38, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * found info on Bishara and added Israel comments. Neutralizer 12:13, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * currently, the reported Israel comment is not adequate for balance nor is it a fair summary of Israel's position on the current conflict. either we get a direct rebuttal of Bishara's comment by other political parties or the gov't, or present the gov't position on why it is doing what it is, and how what it is doing is good enuf to accomplish its aims. Doldrums 12:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * ok; added some more about Israel's position but must go to work now. Neutralizer 12:56, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * presented Israeli gov't posiion per Doldrums(see edit 2 above). Neutralizer 18:02, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I put back to develop as opposed to re-adding the NPOV tag, this looks like something interesting and I'd like to read the sources and then comment or edit. As it stands there's a lengthy and convoluted quote at the end which makes the whole thing difficult to follow. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:56, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I am part-way through reading The Hiroshima of Our Times and I've come to the conclusion that any article reporting on this editorial needs to repeatedly emphasise that the opinion that the Israelis are stupid and such is not an opinion of wikinews. This is one person, who you have to devote a paragraph to introducing, expressing his opinion.  What I took the publish tag off wasn't clear enough in that.  --Brian McNeil / talk 19:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

 * a short history of the article (for anyone who wants to know):
 * reported B.'s comments
 * i tagged npov, pending rebuttals or contrasting views
 * neut has tried to add the israeli govt position before B.'s comment, the article reached its current stage, and it's no longer clear what is the focus of the article.
 * Doldrums 19:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I have learned about another party in this mess, I'm wondering if I need to read archived versions of the article. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:39, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * all i can suggest right now is a complete rewrite (which i'm not going to do :P). i'm not convinced that Bishara's article or views are adequately summarised in the excerpts chosen, am not convinced that the Israel position reported here actually rebutt much of Bishara's arguments. and we'll need a fair bit of context re. Bishara before his comments make sense to people (like me) who're not well-versed in their Israel politics. it'd also be nice (even necessary, perhaps) to report what the entire spectrum of Israeli parties have to say about the conflict, for npov to be reached. and frankly, it's all looking like too much work. Doldrums 19:45, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

headline??
is this a good headline? i mean, its easy to assume that it's the israel-hezbolla one, but there is a lot of conflict in the world, currently, and i think the headline should be more specific. Philmcl 18:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Good Point, especially for a newbie :) Anybody have an objection with me naming it "Current Israel Hezbollah conflict being compared with "Operation Grapes of Wrath"?" MyName 18:16, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * sounds good to me,MyName. Neutralizer 18:28, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Here it goes. MyName 18:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)