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Child law
Hi! I think your story might need a bit more balance to move on but I think it's interesting. Would you be ale to add some more balance from the federal side r supporters of the new law and also maybe try and find out whether the law really *will* mean that such websites will be shut down - get some evidence on that and I think it'll be stronger. ClareWhite 12:06, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Sadly I'm about to escape my boiling office and go home... hopefully someone else will...? ClareWhite 15:03, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Notifying me of a message on Wikipedia
If you have left a message on my Wikipedia talk page, just sign your name in this section, and I'll go see my talk page on Wikipedia. Messedrocker 11:23, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Re: Nintendo unveils controller for Revolution console
(See here)

Hi! I removed the picture of the Revolution controller by accident while I was editing. It's back now. :) Cheers, --Cllewr 18:22, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Looks like an admin deleted both images. I was worried that they would not qualify as fair use.  Cllewr 18:54, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Starting Barnstars on WP:FR
I saw you were fed up with WP:EN, so I'm writing you there about Barnstars on Wikipedia. I'm currently fed up too with the current ethos and way of chatting inside WP:FR, so I take the idea of Barnstars which seems to be outside France Wikipédia to this moment. Instead of Barnstars, Laurel crowns would be the icon.

Do you have a kind of advice to tell me to start correctly there ? I mean, remembering how it started here and the response of the community, how would you do it now, to give some ideas ?

Yours,

Holycharly 11:48, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Audio reports
Howdy! I see you're the last person to get a page on the Spoken Wikinews section. I did a report for my article, London bomb suspect returned from Italy, the audio is up on the article, but I have no idea how to get this listed on the spoken page. Can you pass on the secret code to do this? :-) Stick it on my talk page, and any feedback on my first attempt at an audio report would be welcome. --Brianmc 22:51, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

iPod
before I forget or log off,  is an active category. Best Regards. Edbrown05 01:46, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Could you look at this
I think Wal-Mart to change health benefits plan is a copyvio of http://walmartwatch.com/blog/archives/wal_mart_cutting_more_corners/ and tagged it as such. However the author user:65.190.139.230 dissagreed with me and removed the tag. before I revert it and potentially start a revert war, I want to make sure I'm not imagining things and that it really is a copyvio. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:28, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * That gets my vote for a copyvio. --Wolfrider 00:31, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Category:Bush administration handling of pre-war intelligence and WN:DR
Out of curiosity, why'd you request that the deletion request remain on the deletion request page until November 2, 2005? Bawolff ☺☻ 22:37, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Ok, sounds like a good idea. Maybe we should make it a redirect, but then when people add it to an article it wouldn't appear red. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 22:53, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

A question about ?
Why is the link to the archive a full url instead of a normal wiki link? for example for the australian imigration box the link could be Deletion_requests/Archives/Passed_Archive_4. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:49, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

RE: Nominated for Experimental Arbitration Committee
I accept a temporary position, however I feel the community should vote on (more) permanent members. --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 04:03, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

I do not entirely support the idea of an Arbitration Committee for smaller projects such as Wikinews and I am strongly opposed to members being appointed. However while I have my doubts about this system, I would like to be involved with it if we are to use it, with the condition elections are held as soon as possible. --Cspurrier 04:22, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Like Cspurrier, I'm not certain an arbitration committe is the best option, but I am willing to give it a try. Perhaps we can learn from what did not work or has not worked at Wikipedia. I do think elections should be held as quickly as possible. --Chiacomo (talk) 05:08, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Re; miscellaneous item
ok; thanks for the heads up; I removed it; but I just wanted to make sure you knew the link was there before at Chicomo's suggestion? Neutralizer 05:57, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Question on consensus
so is 50/50 a "consensus" for delete or keep? What are the rules for determining whether, say 4 votes for keep and 4 for delete represent a "consensus" for keep or delete? Kevin Baastalk 16:33, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
 * On wikipedia, consensus has to be "for delete" or article is kept. Not sure about here.

Alleged Bush/Blair Al-Jazeera bombing transcript leaked
May I ask you why believe that the situation at Alleged Bush/Blair Al-Jazeera bombing transcript leaked was so dramatic that it could only be resolved through protection of the page. Specifically could you pinpoint me to the edit war that needed to be "cooled down"? --Deprifry|+T+ 20:47, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I oppose this sk protection of page. Please motivate youre action (on the articles talk page) or immediately reverte the block. Please!International 21:38, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Blocking user Rcameronw
As I pointed out on Rcameronw's talk page, the user was warned about this behaviour, has previously engaged in this behaviour, and knowingly chose to do what xe knew was disruptive behaviour which would likely result in a block. The user was invited to contact me regarding the block, and was given links to multiple methods of doing so.

Given these facts, to fail to block, or to unblock a reasonable block earned by the behaviour, would imply approval or acceptance of a premeditated infraction of site policy. I am not willing to either approve or accept such purposefully disruptive behaviour, and am not willing to unblock the user. -  Amgine | talk 04:46, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Virus from the FBI
Howdy!

You (well, your user page) came up as a potential double redirect when I renamed the virus warning story. I've renamed the link on your user page, but left it with the prior title. I felt it was fair to warn you I'd done this edit in case you want to revise it. Brian McNeil / talk 22:11, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

A trophy for all the work at WN:DR
(This trophy has been moved to the main user page. —M ESSED R OCKER (talk) 18:39, 9 December 2005 (UTC))

Investigation of Allegations that Wikimedia Foundation has Conflicts of Interest Spark Interest in Publishing Transparent Books
I saw you deleted this page on the grounds of it being patent nonsense. I came to this page from a link from a diary entry of an active WP editor, and have two questions: Thanks. --- Charles Stewart
 * Did the talk page (which is where the link I followed led to) qualify as patent nonsense? If not, can it be restored?
 * Is there a content review facility on wikinews, so that I can see the contents of speedies? There doesn't seem to be any kind of undeletion or content review discussion at WP:DG.
 * Thanks for doing this. If the page contents resemble the talk page, it looks more like a joke than anything else. --- Charles Stewart
 * Postscript The second question was about undeletion policy, not deletion policy. I guess the question arises rarely enough here that there's been no effort to formalise this. --- Charles Stewart

Deletion archives
Somehow I mixed up the dates on the deletion archives site. Since you already added a timeframe for Archive 8 I thought you decided that you have closed the archive alltogether. Somehow I didn't realize that December 15 is still to come :). Sorry for that. --Deprifry|+T+ 13:53, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

New Jersey apartment collapse
I just added an article about the apartment building collapse in your county. The article is called "New Jersey apartment building collapses after explosion." Since you live in the area, please add anything to it if you can. Sawran 17:51, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Amgine's contributions
Please see a summary of Amgine's edits in the main article space for recent contributions to wikinews (outside the water cooler). I think the assertion that he's not actively contributing is not quite accurate, though he has been less active in the main space than others, he's more active than many other administrators (myself included, recently). --Chiacomo (talk) 15:33, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

The article block
I will not happily breake 3RR but As I see it it was broken when Cspurrier helped Mrm. Guess good etic in this case should include that you revert the title to the last one i write and ban Mrm and Cspurrier for a short time. Then you can take away the block as the problemmaker are temporally away and thinking about their actions. International 23:02, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Im just tired of Mrm:s way of (not)editing. Its not the idea with Wikinews that articles need constant protection from him. I cant prove teamed up actions and the title was not exactly same. Its a shame he a administrator and is protected by fellow administrators. Im tired of this shit (sorry my bad France) International 00:36, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Look att WN:ALERT. I think I have a case. If you agree also revert the title to my last one and then lock it if you wish International 01:37, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * It is not Chiacomo that made the last revert. It was Cspurier. Chiacomo was just satisfied with mrm:s title and didnt se any 3RR problems at  About the present title you can read this.  International 02:05, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Im blody disapointed on you. Btw how come that you banned me the first time even if you corrected your misstake? Im tired now and when I got time to edit next time I dont want mrm around. Ban him 48 hours so I can get some workingpeace! International 03:37, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

A nice cup of tea while being spied on by the NSA
People don't seem to be having a nice cup of tea and a sit down when they are in the early stages of a dispute. Do you think we should change policy so that that if someone tells you to have a nice cup of tea and a sit down, it is mandatory to go there and say something nice, on pain of blocking? - Borofkin 08:14, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * actually that sounds like a good idea in my humble opinion... Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 08:31, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Amgine thinking I'm Paulrevere
I have advised the other admins about this as Amgine's wide ranging blocks are not acceptable, especially if he just after me with this ridiculous assertion. I hope you will tell the truth about what you know if asked as this is an important thing to the whole community,imo, and should not be kept secret. Neutralizer 20:29, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

New submission
Hi, Thanks for the attention to the article. 1. What happened to the template that used to pop in automatically when submitting a new story? 2.This story fits perfectly with our invitation for submissions;"Do you know of an issue that has been forgotten".

"What we want from YOU! We want you to write articles for Wikinews that:..

You feel isn't getting adequate coverage: Do you know of an issue that has been forgotten or is not getting enough attention in the rest of the press? Here's your chance to tell the world!"
 * Also, this news could be big and is not as time sensitive as other news. Neutralizer 20:31, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Source template
The sources template javascript doesn't appear to work correctly under Safari. Where is the template/css for that part of the page? We could add a plain text version on the same line, for drag & drop. Nyarlathotep 05:06, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

 * For whatever reason, that just does a cut&paste of the Javascript insertTag call, under Safari. Oddly, my JavaScript console reports no errors when I click on those links.  Nyarlathotep 05:23, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Good work alphabetizing the portal category
♫☺☻♪ Bawolff ☺☻ 19:44, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

The best award I can offer
Trophy relocated to the trophy case on the user page.

This is a big effort on your part, and I wanted some way to recognize the work you're putting into this. Thank you so much for digging in and doing the portal moves, and for fixing all the issues related to them! -  Amgine | talk en.WN 19:47, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, indeed well deserved. And good for you edit count too ;). --Deprifry|+T+ 19:49, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you, for those once needed to do things. -Edbrown05 19:56, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

categories
Hi MR, Embarassingly, I'm still not clear as to where the category templates are?

Neutralizer 20:35, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

The quick brown fox...
didn't make it over the lazy dog this time. :( . --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 00:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

New message
You won't get me this time with your new message bar. :D Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 00:31, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikinews Trophy
This trophy has been relocated to the trophy case.

My 3RR Proposal
I've called for a vote on the 3RR proposal. Could you please indicate your support. StrangerInParadise 05:54, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

My quote for the day
"Grim Reaper of Wikinews" :D Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 20:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

chill
I don't think I ever got shouted at for a spelling mistake before. --vonbergm 02:35, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I was referring to this. Should I interpret your repsonse as you did not mean to shout? --vonbergm 22:41, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Press Badges
I have been approved as an accredited user but am yet to receive any information about the press badges and ID. Do you know who best to speak to about this? - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 02:26, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Better Not
You better not leave. To heck with Amgine. I hope you stay. Please bring this to the attention of others and please do not leave. Jason Safoutin 14:01, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Don't worry! April Fool's! (But I am serious about the urgency of Wikinews reforms.) —M ESSED R OCKER (talk) 14:27, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Please stop deleting redirects
It costs more in deletion than leaving them alone. Either fix them, or just leave them. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 01:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

RE: Siggy
thank you, i enjoyed it very much. You are very creative [wink][wink]

Signature
Talk about marking your place with your new signature :P Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 06:50, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Have a Good break
There will be a whole lot of DR waiting for you when your back :) Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 11:41, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Block of International
Hi Messedrocker... don't forget to leave a note on International's talk page informing him of the block, and you should probably also post a justification on WN:ALERT, considering how controversial and disputed this whole business is. I know you're probably already working on this, just reminding you..... - Borofkin 01:49, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Messedrocker, is it okay if I move your justification on WN:ALERT up to the Mrmiscellanious section at the top? They are part of the same dispute and probably should be discussed together... - Borofkin 02:03, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Messedrocker, would you mind to post some diffs on WN:ALERT to explain the reasons behind your block. There seems to be some confusion about this and people will not learn from a block unless it is clear what the block was for. --vonbergm 21:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I will just reminde you that I expect somthing from you that make a good evidence of that which made you to block me for 24 hours. Please use WN:Alert international 09:13, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Your signature...
The image, Image:R with umlaut.png, is not displaying in your signature (at least for me). It has never displayed, so I don't think it's a server error. I doesn't bother me, but it's not working and I though you might want to know. --Chiacomo (talk) 04:47, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * It displays okay for me. - Borofkin 04:52, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * straaaange... I was talking with someone else about this image in #wikinews-en the other day and it didn't work for them either... I'm on an WinXP machine using Firefox... Hrm. I'm gonna ask the devs. --Chiacomo (talk) 04:54, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Reviewed the block
I was asked by International to review the block, which I've done at WN:ALERT. I'm very impressed with your apology to International. Thank you. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 01:24, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the award!!!
What a nice surprise that was!

I admit, I logged in with a "slightly" bad conscience, since I haven´t done a recording today. :-) Moreover I have to admit that, at the mo´, I´m feeling so knackered (thanks to three little kids (not mine), which kept me busy all afternoon and early evening), that I will not do a recording today. I´ll make it up tomorrow.

Since you gave me that award, I´ll allow myself to tell you about my (current wiki-)plans. The first idea was, to read at least one news-message per day. This is of course not always possible.

But when I realized, that the news-briefs are not really regular (so far), I decided, to read a news-briefs-audio-file a day, when possible. I´m still "struggeling" with the usage of audacity, but I´m "getting better".

The idea of an independent news-media via the internet seems extremely charming to me. Hence I try to support it as good as I can.

The award given to me by you, encouraged me to reach the aim of supporting wiki-news in getting a kind of regularity concerning a daily read news-briefs.

Over here in Kraut-land we´d say: "Squeeze your thumbs for me, mate!". Allow me a very british ending for this message:

Ta´n´Tara!

Gumboyaya 20:44, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Untitled thank-you message
Thanks for the correction...! 69.161.110.89 18:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Image:Reservationprotest.jpg
I've noticed you haven't provided any licensing information. Please be sure to provide them as soon as possible, lest the image gets deleted. — THIS IS M ESSED OCKER  (TALK) 21:31, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * It was a reupload, I don't know anything about the source. --  Zanimum 21:30, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

DR
Hello, I wanted to remind you of a part of our deletion policy, that appears to have been forgotten, “Original reports have to be listed for seven days. Non-articles also appear for Seven days.” Several recent deletion such as the Jimmy Wales interview and Category:Politics would qualify for the seven day listings, but were deleted in three. I do not care much about these individual deletions, but people have complained about how they did not get a chance to vote on Category:Politics. --Cspurrier 13:56, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Rfda
This is a message to inform you that I have added every administrator to the Rfda section on WN:A. This is not personal and I feel as if the community, who did not have the option of voting for or against most of the administrators, should be able to choose who they want to be in charge. I also want to say that I value everyones work on this site and I know that everyone does their best. I hope that none of you will take this personally and I hope that all of us will continue to work together. Jason Safoutin 12:16, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about not supporting your traty thingy
But I feel its important to vote honestly. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:00, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm not interested in pleasing, or displeasing, DragonFire1024. I'm interested in a productive wiki, which has usually been the case when there are few communications bottlenecks or disruptions. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 03:03, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

comment on dr
You said on DR: "let it remained speedy for God's sake"

Please don't use God's name in vain, it could be said to be offending to some people. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 04:22, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
I didn't know how to say it. -Edbrown05 02:11, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Your follow-up comment on new user Enigma's talk page helped clarify what mischief can sprout from wrongful little suspicions. For that I was grateful. -Edbrown05 20:04, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Anonnotice
Thank you for correcting that grammar request so speedily! I can't believe it got done in such a short time! I hereby congratulate you. -m:User:Dbmag9

Thank You!
I'm here studying and I notice I had new messages. That "Nanook" must have been waching our discussion on the live chat and decided to strike. Man you fixed it quick though, Thanks!MyName 00:43, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Question?
Is all right that I added a picture of a Southwest jet? It was on a wikinews page about the southwest jet that skidded off the runway earlier in the year. MyName 01:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I left a notice over at the Water Cooler to have a few people look over it, then hopefully I will publish my first article. MyName 01:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Spelling Correct
Sorry about that, ran it through a spell checker and I probably wasn’t watching close enough :) MyName 19:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Requested deletion of my redirects
Hi. What does "redirects are win" mean? I'm requesting that these be deleted because I'm a Wikipedia sysop, and my activities there have led me to attract a vandal who seems to be trying to get into my non-wiki personal life (e.g. finding out where I work). Since we've recently had a few instances where admins' actual employers have been complained to by banned users, I'm eliminating my personal information (including that contained in my username). Cheers! BD2412 T 19:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I've carried out an alternate solution - re-registering the old one and mothballing it. That will prevent any potential abuse of my name, while providing no information of use to my secret admirer. Cheers! BD2412 T 22:43, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Its sad that events like that happen. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 22:46, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for dealing with the sock vandal. - Amgine 17:14, 11 June 2006 (UTC) (editing not logged in)

IWWC update
Thank you. I would greatly appreciate that. I hope to be back shortly...but I too am going to miss Wikinews :( Jason Safoutin 05:03, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

American Book Piece - Thank you for your input
I think your point is well taken, but the article has re-appeared in reprints as recently as today in hard copy edition of Harrisburg Patriot-News. It is also a trend piece so immediate timeliness may not be indispensible to the value. I do appreciate your taking the time to both look into it and write. Might you reconsider your objection? 69.253.189.44 01:25, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:U.S._production_of_new_books_declining"

WHy did u delet my page??!?!?!?
i wrot an artice (Very gay ,man arrested for being very gay) baout me being beated by teh police becus i am gay and tehn u deleted it?!?! whY? ?

sources tag
why the sources tag on US Seeks to Lift Export Sales Ban on the F-22A Raptor? Doldrums 17:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Added sources
I just added sources and I am about to upload a map of the range of the missiles to Wikinews and then put it on the article,

Cheers,

Book s worm Talk to me! 21:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Re:U.S soldier in Iraq.....
Please see. PVJ  (Talk) 04:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

 * thank you, Messed. Doldrums 17:29, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Yell threatens to shut down Yellowikis
I have the letter from Yell. Would that do? I don't want to up-load it to the site at the moment (still have lawyers looking at it) though I am happy to let you see it for verification. This should be a great story for Wikinews to break - you are the only people to have this information. Email me off wiki if you want to know more: [mailto:paul@yellowikis.org paul@yellowikis.org] --Yellowikis 22:04, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Hoax??
Is 143-year-old man turns 144 today a hoax?? --Silvershooter 22:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

background colors
They don't do well in HTML, and never have. Is there a way to incorporate a background template of an image that automatically adjusts to the size of the section or page being rendered? -Edbrown05 05:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Strawpoll
I feel you have decided to declare the poll closed without giving the voters enough time to consider the title I proposed-you closed the poll about an hour after the proposal was made. I ask that you extend the poll by 12-24 hours so as give voters adequate time to respond. PVJ  (Talk) 06:58, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. PVJ [[Image:Flag of India.svg|25px]] (Talk) 07:32, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Contributions
Am I making good contributions?? I hope can become part of the team here at Wikinews. As for those hoaxers, well, they got past my firewall - had to update it this morning! --Gold-Horn 08:56, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

:( not fair
You deleted "Italy will play France for the final FIFA world cup", because it was redundant, but i was the first to write it, it's not fair! it's not my fault if others do not verify if article do not already exists Jacques Divol 09:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC) a sad French

(of course, i am kidding, it's ok in fact)

doppelgangers
thanks for looking out! Doldrums 09:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

REPLY
Fuck You! Thenewsman 20:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Shove it up your ass, bigboy! Thenewsman 20:56, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou
I would like to thank you for you welcome. However, I will be forced to remove it because...lets just say...my propose here is unconventional. I provide support in case management, and speak on behalf of Wikinews vandals. Again, thank you. Vandal's Laywer 21:37, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

A doppelganger account named FeIlowWikiNews
Where is the doppelganger account named FeIlowWikiNews? Fellow Wiki  News   (W)  22:14, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Why does this user have no contributions? Fellow  Wiki  News   (W)  22:16, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks for letting me know. Fellow  Wiki  News   (W)  22:21, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

mahmoudiya article
have made some changes, in line with the AP(Salon) report. could u take a look-see. Doldrums 04:27, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * the Iraq rape and murders article, US soldier arrested for rape and four murders in Iraq. which took place in Mahmoudiya, a town 30km south of baghdad. bunch of anglo-american-centric ...

 * Doldrums 04:38, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

london bombing anniversary
can u dig up a picture or two for this article? it's a good candidate for second or third lead, i think. Doldrums 19:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Recent changes
Please check Recent changes. There are a couple of vandals. Fellow Wiki  News   (W)  23:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandals
Don't worry, I've permanently banned them off the computers for trying to compromise the integrity of Wikinews. It won't happen again, thank god for that. --Gold-Horn 11:32, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It's actually 4 public computers in Southport, Merseyside. (And I've blocked Wikinews in the HOSTS file on Windows XP on the network, by redirecting the address to another website!! Heh!) --Gold-Horn 22:23, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Copyvios
Thanks for flagging them as such - i didn't realise they were! --Gold-Horn 18:34, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

HeHe...
NiCE edit summary! 68.39.174.238 04:12, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Bush-60
Sorry for the wrong tag, I did not know such a tag existed, will be careful next time. Pandoo 19:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Your signature is buggy
In Firefox 1.5.0.4 on Windows XP, the umlaut in your signature is centered on the gap between the r and the o, with one dot on each letter. In IE 6, there is no umlaut at all, just two boxes () between the letters. Seahen 03:39, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Agni missile article
thanks, didn't remember the correction template. btw, the current version of India successfully test-fires Agni-III missile includes in-text corrections ( paragraph 3, tribune source). Doldrums 06:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

removing category:movies
Your edit to Full-length open source movie ‘Boy Who Never Slept’ is released online removed the reference to the movies category from the story, but the category itself still exists. Is that what you intended and if so why? Karen 07:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I followed the link to the movies category, but didn't see the notice. I edited the notice to be bold, but a template would be more eye-catching. Do you think you could make one for this purpose? Meanwhile, I'll make sure I didn't add the movies category to the list of commonly used categories so I can avoid the mistake of using it again. Karen 07:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Alright, I didn't add that one, but I added Category:Culture and entertainment, Category:Radio, and Category:Iceland. Why is "movies" the deprected version of "film"? Modern movies don't use film (or use very little of it) in production and there's a trend to bypass the use of film in distribution (some theatres show movies digitally without loading a film projector). Karen 08:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

What about the template idea? Or, just remove the category - the reason it was mis-used was only because it existed. Karen 08:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

How often do you the term "film-goers" or someone say "I'm going to see a film."? Maybe it's a regional convention. Seriously, what term do people use in your area? Karen 08:12, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining all that to me. I made a template for this sort of thing - if used consistently, the template could be made better without requiring the category itself to be re-edited. Karen 08:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: renaming
i thought renaming it back won't work unless the original article is deleted, something that i can't do. Doldrums 07:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * ok. Doldrums 07:46, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

University_Student_Looks_To_Become_CEO
This arctial seems to be a Vanity arctical. See my post in Admin Action Alerts. MyName 21:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Truncating articles
Yes, I am aware of the problem. I've getting used to it while editing articles over at "LostPedia" and have started checking the text area box before submitting, but this time I slipped up :-) --Jambalaya 01:04, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Neutralizer 3rr title violation
Here

On the day after concensus reached. Against protests in discussion. Ealturner 13:06, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Please also note Neutralise "NPOV'd" this article. There were no complaints for hours before the article was made top headline.

Neutralizer calls the title "Totally 1 sided as well as inflammatory and sensationalist"

The title is "Israeli railroad station bombed. 8 killed, 23 injured"

Please do something about this individual. He is making work impossible. I don't want to leave but I will not take much more of this. Ealturner 13:34, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

PVJ: Harassment notice and 3rr violation
PVJ left a harassment notice on my talk page.

I find this unnecessary. My second request for deadministration was based on the fact he broke the three revert rule. This is a third abuse to add to his previous two abuses. The de-admin request was removed by another admin, Amgine, who said PVJ had abused his editor privilege. When I made the request I was not aware of the difference. To abuse the rules of wikinews when one is an administrator is surely to abuse one's position as administrator also? The let off for his two administrator abuses has emboldened him. Ealturner 17:44, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Four reverts Civilian casualties increase as Israel-Hezbollah conflict continues. Ealturner 18:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Light aircraft makes emergency landing in major industrial estate
Further to previous postings from myself, I wish to apologise for over-reacting.

Having witnessed a pretty serious plane crash today, all I can say is that the emotion of the incident has been a little too dofficult to deal with, particularly as I, myself, was involved in a plane crash several years ago.

I am not a difficult person, nor am I someone who normally threatens legal action ( I don't particularly like lawayers that much !) and so my reaction to BrianMC was wrong and I wish to take this opportunity to apologise to you and of course, to BrianMC.

Those that know me will tell you that my behaviour, this evening, has been completely out of character.

I accept that I should have indicated the public domain licence, of the image, in the first instance and I sincerely apologise for not submitting an image which did not contain a VTV copyright symbol. An alternative image (which was meant to be distributed) is available and hopefuelly this will clear up any confusion as to the public domain rights for this file.

WikiNews is a vitally important forum which is unique and unprecedented. It represents a truly deomocratic way in which news can be reported, free from censorship and I sincerely wish to be a part of the WikiNews community. If I have caused any upset or offence, then I do sincerely apologise.

Again, BrianMC and yourself - my sincerest apologies.

Best wishes,

Robert (Valleysnews)
 * And I have been rude, it would have been significantly different had you been looking to protect your copyright and I had been reluctant to delete material, if you can see that side you'd see why deletions can end up seeming arbitrary. However... Were you to instigate a policy of releasing article graphics under a license we can use that might even be a newsworthy event, particularly if we had 3 or 4 images with a CC-By (c) message on them and corresponding wikinews articles. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:55, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Possible MessedRobot bug
I noticed an oddity while stumbling through the broken redirects list. See here (should point to Talk:India's Agni-III test termed a "failure") and here (should point to Mohamed ElBaradei: Highly enriched uranium found in Iran is "of little significance"). MessedRobot seems to be having difficulties when there are quotation marks in the title. --Deprifry|+T+ 19:57, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Pooo I win
I was the one who blanked it because I didn't know how to delete it, how do you delete an article? Thank you! Ksax 03:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

RfA :(
Thanks for voting on my RfA. Unfortunately a consensus was not reached. Anyway, thanks for voting. MyName 01:13, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * BTW, this message is the same for everyone :)

Wikipedia
Do you have an account on wikipedia?I do.--Cute 1 4 u 19:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

RE: I didn't give you that award
Well good, It must have been MrMiscellanious then, you know an award for censorship and everything

ur thoughts on...
this expanded version of Browse. (yes, i've seen the comment on the browse talk page about keeping the design "bare".) Doldrums 15:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Ouf!
Thx!--Stevenfruitsmaak 23:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Could you help out here?--Stevenfruitsmaak 16:15, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Re:Congrats
Ummmm.I can possibly make an article every week...since i do like movies.sure.--Cute 1 4 u 20:40, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Copy vio
I think I may have copyrighted 1 article. Anyway, I did take some of the words in another article, but I did not copy word from word.I'll try and change it more for you and Wikinews.--Cute 1 4 u 04:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

maybe...

Thank You
Hey MessedRocker - Was that you I threw you a ten foot pole to the other night? I'm looking into writing some local articles for wikinews. Specifically about Google moving to Ann Arbor (also a national story), and some articles regarding specific Ann Arbor issues that might rile a few Wikinewsians ("The ann arbor greenbelt proposal isn't news!") but I think things will work out. Thanks for the welcome! -- Ross Koepke Talk 04:55, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Generic date categories
are u doing this manually? if yes, then i can pitch in and do some of what's left. Doldrums 15:59, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * mind if i muscle in on the action? Doldrums 17:10, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * the date cats from Jan to Jul have not been made subcats of their respective months, whereas those in august and sept have. fix? Doldrums 03:24, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Whew! good job. Doldrums 05:09, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

are you sure?
I wuz thar too summaz 'go 'n' I swa' iz call'd Hugary. Thanks for catching that, rocker. --SVTCobra 01:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

OR stuff
Talk:New_Zealand_government_unwilling_to_help_Overlander_train_service. Doldrums 08:03, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * the "Wikinews hotline message" listed as an OR source(?) is reading out this bloomberg article. the wikinews article is a verbatim copy of the bloomberg one. Doldrums 08:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

category stuff
why does Category:Europe list only the 9 subcats that it does, and not the others (such as Category:United Kingdom, which are categorised properly? Doldrums 05:32, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Re:Leaving Wikinews!?
Thank you for being thoughtful. It was stressing me out after I got a message from Amgine and Cspurrier. I guess I wont leave. F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  02:35, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Image:O'Connor.jpg
I can never find free images. F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  16:23, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

IRC
Hey MessedRocker. Why can't I type on IRC? F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  17:45, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Re: calm the fuck down please. I'm sorry for typing in caps. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  18:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Nominess for ArbCom election
It was my intention to hold nominations until the eletions actually begin (as we did in the original election). I suppose the ArbCom could choose to begin accepting nominations beforehand. I don't want to drag this out much before elections begin. --Chiacomo (talk) 04:44, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Reply
How can I be blocked, when i'm "Banned"? The Nullifier 04:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Ya' know...
... I gotta a tropical storm moving in here upwind from North Carolina where maybe the mud flaps on my parked truck will be blown backwards in the wrong direction. Maybe the James River will decide to flood. Maybe some roads will be unpassable. U bit off more than u should chew with your "indefinite" ban of Nuetralizer. I'll fight that for as long as it goes. Best regards. -Edbrown05 05:44, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Funny wikiStress, I hate being unilateral too! :) Edbrown05 06:02, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Edits to protected pages
Thanks for fulfilling my requests! -- Zanimum 15:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for finding another bug
Ah, you just uncovered a new bug in AWB. Messages don't work when you get them on Wikinews. The project has been supported for about a week after I asked nicely. Any tips you can give on AWB use would be appreciated. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:22, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Download link --Brian McNeil / talk 07:25, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * This isn't a Wikinews-specific version, just that support for the project has been enabled in the main version. I asked about a week ago and you can select Wikinews (english only) in the project preferences as of version 3.0.2.6 (current is .8 which I downloaded this morning), I think with this bug for new message notification it'll get another version bump. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:32, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Re:Vice-Admiral Mehta appointed Chief of Naval Staff
I don't think there's any scope for expanding it, the basic point of the article being to announce the appointment of a new Chief of the Navy. Please go ahead and merge it, I'd rather try and write another article (instead of expanding this one) today if I can find the time. PVJ(Talk) 08:39, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Opposal to parole
I'm glad to see you're still here, Messed. I just wanted to applaud you on keeping a level head and doing "what was right". If it were in my hands, Neut would be perma-banned over and over again until I was de-admined. ;)

Or, maybe not. Maybe I could hold my toungue like you did. But the fact of the matter is, when does it stop being fun and start being unpleasant? That line is crossed when you can no longer do what you want to do, but what you must do, and these things are in conflict.

So why are you here? Why was I here? Why did we even try when, when it comes right down to it, working with him was so difficult? What drives us to keep coming back to this website, when we could be spending our free time doing something better instead?

Why do I still have Wikinews as my home page? Why the hell can't I stay away?

I propose that it's part of our masochistic nature. I use a rotating set of IPs to edit here now... it's the only thing that keeps a wall between myself and the politics. It's a pain, but it's better than having talk page archives filled with angry, bitter resentment and disagreement.

I've hardly noticed Neutralizer in recent months, actually. Kept away from the talk pages. Content, content, content.

And yet, still, in the back of my mind, it bugs me. He bugs me. I know that if I were to make an honest, truthful evaluation of an edit he made... I'd be labeled a white pro-American pro-Bush blah blah blah. In fact, the only thing that matters is that I'd be labeled at all.

And the only person who consistantly labeled myself, and others...

Well...

Anyway. I just wanted to drop you a note and say that, although I'm vehemotly opposed to a parole for him (it's been done), you've done a good service by foregoing your instincts and giving due process a chance.

--Chris / irid:t 04:47, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I've used my voice to try to stop people from stopping the others from reporting what is on their minds, never to perma-ban someone. Never, ever, perma-ban a voice. -Edbrown05 06:20, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Steve Irwin
Actually, that wasn't me. I've looked through the history, and I can't see the comment you're talking about. Sorry. 70.92.174.251 08:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Additionally, I've very sad to see Template:W bite the dust. (As you can probably tell by my near-instant revert of myself) 70.92.174.251 08:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Delete please?
A fun casino night at home?? 70.92.174.251 09:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. :) 70.92.174.251 09:56, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Welcome
Thank you. ;) Want to boilerplate my talk page again? Heh. irid:t 10:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Image:Australia_Zoo_mourners.jpg
Im still confused by this image. Fair enough it is from Getty BUT your source link is to the BBC news article - which is not fair use rationale. In fact the, as you say, the Image is from Getty Images and is not (as the license templates says) released for use in the media. It is copyrighted and resold by Getty to places like the BBC. So how does fair use apply? --Errant 11:12, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Wierd
lead template, i see it, but ... aw well, it's not important -Edbrown05 07:13, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

RE:Fair Use
Well I shall delete them then :) - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 22:02, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I Have A Question
How did you obtain the 'ID Card' on your userpage? At the very top. If at all possible, leave a message on my talk page. Thank you! Thunderhead

One More
Sorry for the constant messages. How would I change my signature to have it red? I was never great at Wikicoding for signatures.

Thunderhead 23:30, 8 September 2006 (UTC)--

Date template
I made a date template that formats the date based on you user special:preferences. template:altdate/link. (Neeeds about 364 infastructure edits by a bot though) Bawolff ☺☻ 18:56, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Image Problem
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Image:STS-115_Launch.jpg

I can't view this on my browser 'Internet Explorer'. Is there something wrong with the image, or my browser?

Thunderhead (talk) 22:29, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm using Internet Explorer and it looks fine. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  22:32, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Reporter ID card
I could use one, actually... sure, if you've got time. :-) Mindspillage (spill yours?) 23:12, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, I asked the same question. Turns out that only 'Wikinews Accredited Reporters' get one. Thunderhead (talk) 20:28, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Mindspillage is listed on WN:CV, thus can have this. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:37, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, excuse me! I forgot. The template is Template:Accredited reporter

Duplicate News
The attack on the US Embassy in Syria has about two duplicate pages, and I was wondering if you could delete those. The articles in question are: [|Damascus: US embassy attacked], [|Attack on U.S. embassy in Syria halted in progress], and the second one was the breaking news article on the main page. Thanks! Thunderhead (talk) 04:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

MSN and IRC
Sorry, everything keeps messing up! What I was trying to tell you was that typing lets you add a message after typing |. Thunderhead (talk) 19:35, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Deletion question
Hi,

you have deleted my Belgian terrorism suspects remain in custody as case details emerge. I was kinda surprised, but I can't remember how far I was with this article. Was the content minimal? If it was, it's good that it was deleted 'cause it would be old news by now.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 17:29, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

 * But was the content minimal? I tend to leave things in develop for others to copy-edit my english and publish them... But I remember putting quite some effort into the article so I have a hard time believing the content was minimal... --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:22, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Why didn't you just publish it? I'd like to request undeletion if possible. Not that it's news anymore, but fair is fair, I work hard on articles like that, and didn't apreciate seeing that article deleted when I got back from Wikibreak. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 01:14, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Who claimed that there was anything copied from Wikipedia, and what exactly was supposed to be copied? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 01:20, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Also, didn't it strike you as well referenced and maybe in-depth, NPOV? It was a quality article IMHO.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 01:22, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Looking at the article's history, I think this kinda thing is a mistake and shouldn't have happened. Since it only took my 5 minutes to fix all this, I think that should have been done instead of deleting it, since I spent well over 5 minutes creating that article. Please be more careful in the future, check the history, and remember: When in doubt, don't delete!
 * Seabhcan added info from Wikipedia. All the info was already there. At that point, the info should simply have been removed!
 * Instead, Brianmc reported copyright problems. Then you tagged it as abandoned, then deleted.

Anyway, thankyou for your kind help restoring it. I'm still a fan of you, and glad to have supported your RfA on enwiki. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 01:38, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Some recommended reading
, especially --+Deprifry+ 11:29, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Admin Alert
Please visit this, there is a dispute that this user is webhosting his stuff. It says on top "THIS IS A SELF MADE SITE TO SHOW MY WEBPAGE". Anyways is there a wikinews template message in relevance to be placed in his page? Zer T 23:14, 22 September 2006 (UTC) :Anyways is there a template to be place on user pages that made their profiles an advertisement or webhost such as the one on kevinprior? Zer T 00:03, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Some user on enwiki
Don't know if you've seen w:User:LiverpoolCommander, but he made a bogus claim that he was me.... and I've never even edited Wikipedia as an account before (only as IP addresses!) --Gold-Horn 23:20, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm glad this guy is blocked. I will get an enwiki account as Gold-Horn, look out for that! --Gold-Horn 23:20, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again.
I just wanted to thank you for convincing me to resume contributing. Your request was the deciding factor in my return to editing. I did not vote for you in the ArbCom elections, but your actions have convinced me of your competence as a just, valuable Arbitrator. Thanks again. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) 13:27, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Unblock me
Please unblock me w:User:Gold-Horn mistaken for being sockpuppet... --Gold-Horn 21:53, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

82.42.145.158, w:WP:ANI
Messedrocker, it wasn't actually me who was using other accounts from the IP 82.42.145.158 here, or on Wikipedia - I was on public terminals back then. --Gold-Horn 21:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Neutralizer parole violation
His parole terms state (among other things) that he shall "follow any other applicable rules". I believe this qualifies as a violation of WN:E and request that you take appropiate actions. --+Deprifry+ 22:17, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, actually, it seems like POV. If he doesn't like the way it's written, he has the right to say so, however, it is rude. A warning may be sufficient. Thunderhead (talk) 01:08, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Amgine can not de-admin himself
See this "Stewards are the only users who can remove administrator privileges." on the administrators' page. MrM wanted to be taken off the admin list and Eloquence said "No; not unless he was deadmined by the Stewards."70.50.76.118 00:39, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:Category for Neutralizer's sockpuppets
I just wanted to point out that Brain has not yet requested Checkuser confirmation for these accounts, and thus we cannot be 100% sure that they are sockpuppets of Neutralizer. Remember that Rezilarteun was created to deliberately mislead us into thinking that Neutralizer was using sockpuppets. In the same way, accounts (Specialops) who claim they are Canadian on their userpages also seem to be behaving anomalously, since sockpuppeteers do not generally reveal incriminating details about accounts created by them. This is why I feel it would be better if the Category was deleted until Checkuser could confirm the identity of these accounts. However, I would point out to you that WHOIS reveals that all these IPs are from the same ISP in Canada. It seems to be sufficiently clear evidence that Neutralizer has, in fact, started using sockpuppets, and hence (sadly) further action could be taken against him. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) 03:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikinews Radio???
I know a few people at my local radio station which broadcasts in NC, Virgina, and some of South Carolina. Is there any way Wikinews contributers could put together a weekly broadcast for it? I'd be happy to get us a spot. Thunderhead (talk) 02:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Small plane crashes into NYC highrise.
WRT the above article, I intend to merge it. Please do not arbitrarily blank articles that are candidates to be merged. Guinness2702 19:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I totally agree with you which is why I have been posting dupe tags left right and centre. I'm something of a newb here, but in the past where multiple articles have been created it was the first article that was used.  If this is not the case, then so be it.  As I said, I will be merging info in asap. Guinness2702 19:51, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, Administrator....
Would you mind taking a look at this and telling me what you think of it? Thunderhead (talk) 19:54, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Fine with me. I thought we might need some sort of reasoning behind protected pages for our new users. :) Thunderhead (talk) 20:59, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, take a look at it again, and see if that's better. Thunderhead (talk) 21:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I've posted this at the templates talk page but there was no response: I'd like the template to be more inconspicuous, for example something more along the lines of User:Stevenfruitsmaak/Archive. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:09, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Dark Matter - What's not news?
I was just wondering what about the dark matter story isn't news. Is it because it's late? I would appreciate knowing more so that I can avoid posting stories like that. I cover physics, so it may be different in knowing what's news for wikinews and what's not. Thank you so much for your help.

Mputney 12:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Legoman1286
Hello, This is Legoman1286. I am sorry for copying the article. I thought that it wasn't copyrighted.

~Legoman1286

Re:pvj
It doesn't matter what their definition of "terrorism" is, but as jourrnalists we ought to report on things accurately and not castrate names because you personally disagree with the American definition of terrorism. We don't need to refer to it as "terrorism", "alert-threat" would do fine. In any case, if we do follow the policy of going by the US (or any other country's) definition of terrorism, why was Category:Terrorism deleted? We should follow the same principle with regard to this article as well. For more information on why the word "etrrorism" is highly subjective, please see. Also, please don't take my comment on Doldrum's talk personally. I was just pointing out that the 3RR should not be used against only one user when two/three others "gang" up to "weasel" out of the 3RR. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) 15:06, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Stevob in Adlen battle
You added a tag to this article, however you didn't list a url for it. Could you please go back and add a URL? Thunderhead (talk) 02:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for that. User:Thunderhead (unlogged @ school) (talk)

Abandoned
I see you tagged a few articles as abandoned. Yet didn't place them on the requested deletions page. I'm also wondering why they show up as disputed on the main page when all that is problematic is the activity. That dead snooker player is in no way disputed. Can you thumb through the disputed pages and remove some from that list? Also, why should abandoned articles be deleted? Some can simply be considered done and tagged as such. (User:MagicMagic). - 131.211.210.14 10:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

You Blew Up The World!
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Bad_jokes_and_other_deleted_nonsense#Events%20leading%20up%20to%20the%20end%20of%20the%20World Enjoy! Thunderhead (talk) 21:31, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

RfDA
There are currently four votes in support of de-sysoping me, and none against. Could you please monitor the situation and tell me when consensus is reached to have my Administrator privileges revoked? There are certain things I must take care of before the actual removal of access. Thanks. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) 14:03, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for informing me of when the RfDA will close, could you also give me some sort of indication as to how many support votes are required for consensus to be reached? Since there are, as of this time, four supports with no opposing votes, has the time come to get this over with? I do not want to prolong this (as I see it) somewhat humiliating procedure longer than necessary. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 15:57, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd rather go out after the RfDA than resign. It will give me till the end of this week. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 16:54, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Messed, were you aware that your userpage is listed under ? :-) PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 17:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry about not using . By the way, could you please discount Dan's RfDA vote? He has attacked me on many occasions and hence should not be allowed to vote? It will not affect the end result anyway since I will quit on the 28 anyway. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 04:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * To be very honest, it is not just the RfDA that has made me decide to leave the project. The fact that you, a user I whose opinion I hold in high regard, and who has previously helped me through difficult times, filed that RfDA made me seriously question whether I should stay on here. I myself am not too happy about having to retire from Wikinews, but I will not be able to contribute constructively after having my sysop access revoked. Nontheless, there are still five days to go before the RfDA closes, we cannot come to any conclusion just yet. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 13:10, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The concerns raied in the RfDA are 1) I sometimes express myself in a manner that is not well recieved by certain users, 2) I have violated the 3RR thrice and 3) I unblocked myself to make a comment and then reblocked myself. As far as I can see, 1) and 2) have more to do with my status as an editor than my sysop access, and can be most efficiently addressed by me being "de-editored" (hence my decision to leave). 3) concerns my Administrator privileges, and if the community feels that a temporary unblock warrants my status being revoked, I will ofcourse abide by that decision. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 14:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Removing Vote
How do you know that is a banned user? الموت على الاسلام 17:09, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, the evidence is there. Do a checkuser. الموت على الاسلام 17:14, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * To be more clear on the above comment. All of Neut's IP range was blocked a few days ago, so it probally is not him. الموت على الاسلام 17:18, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Who is MyName and why would he want to impersonate Neutralizer? I highly doubt this is anyone but a former anon who wants to support PVJ. Anyhow I think the vote should stand until there is concrete evidence e.x. Checkuser. Thanks. الموت على الاسلام 17:23, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Alright. At this point it dosen't really matter who it is. Lets just wait for a checkuser and then take action. Okay? الموت على الاسلام 17:31, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Trolls
Join in, help make them go away. :) — Doldrums(talk) 02:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC) I support the fight against trolls! :P Thunderhead  (talk) 02:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

RfDA
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Windows Vista delayed until January 2007

March 22, 2006 Microsoft plans to delay the consumer versions of its next operating system, Windows Vista. Originally due out by the end of 2006, Windows Vista Home Basic, Home Premium, and Ultimate editions now have a release target of January 2007. Business editions will continue to be released in November 2006. Two different reasons for this have been given in interviews; the first reason being a six-week delay in completing security related work on the operating system and the second reason is that, as a result of this delay, computer hardware manufacturers and resellers will generally not have enough time to prepare for a holiday 2006 launch. Analysts have said this could put some computer manufacturers into turmoil, though a number of the largest resellers of Windows XP have made public statements supporting Microsoft's decision to delay the consumer release of Vista to January.

Currently, Windows XP has been the longest-current operating system from Microsoft, debuting in 2001.

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Microsoft verschiebt Markteinführung von Windows Vista 微软推迟新操作系统的发布 Nya Windows släpps först efter julhandeln

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BC Queen of the North ferry sinks

March 22, 2006 At approximately 00:26 hrs, on Wednesday, March 22, the British Columbia ferry MV Queen of the North hit a rock near Gil Island in Wright Sound, off the coast of British Columbia, Canada, 75 from the start of ship's schedule journey from Prince Rupert to Port Hardy on the Northern tip of Vancouver IslandPort Hardy. The ship missed a course change and ran agroung off Gil Island. It took about an hour for the ferry to sink, giving passengers time to get out. The vessel was carrying 101 passengers and crew, and all but 2 were accounted for. Thanks to quick-response of nearby aboriginal fishing villager of Hartley Bay, and the CCGS Sir Wiflrid Laurier. Survivors were quickly fetched from the Queen of the North's lifeboat and brought to Hartley Bay and onboard the coast Guard ship, and eventually back to Prince Rupert onboard the Sir Wilfrid Laurier. Hartley Bay.

The Queen of the North, is (apx) 9,000 gross ton, motor driven vessel, built in Germany in 1969. The Queen of the North had been on this 15 hrs, 274 nautical mile ferry run since late May 1980. In the summer and on relief work, her smaller sister ship, the Queen of Prince Rupert also performs that run.

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EU bans 92 airlines, buries "flying coffins"

March 22, 2006

EU Transport Commissioner Jacques Barrot on Wednesday banned 92 airlines, some planes of which he described as "flying coffins," from landing at European airports, declaring them unsafe by international standards.

"This blacklist will keep dubious airlines out of Europe," Barrot said. "It will also make sure that all airlines operating in Europe's skies meet the highest safety standards."

The airlines categorically banned are:
 * Air Koryo (Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea)
 * Air Service (Comores)
 * Ariana Afghan Airlines (Afghanistan)
 * BGB Air (Kazakhstan)
 * GST Aero Air Company (Kazakhstan)
 * Phoenix Aviation (Kyrghizstan)
 * Phuket Airlines (Thailand)
 * Reem Air (Kyrghizstan)
 * Silverback Cargo Freighters (Rwanda)
 * All air carriers certified in the Democratic Republic of Congo

The full list can be found at the EU website (PDF).


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ETA declares permanent cease-fire

March 22, 2006 The armed Basque separatist organisation "ETA" (Euskadi Ta Askatasuna) has announced a permanent cease-fire as of Friday 24th March 2006. A video release by the organization shows three people seated at a table in front the ETA emblem, faces covered with masks and wearing Basque berets. The video was broadcast on Spanish national television and distributed to local Basque media outlets.

ETA, Western Europe's most active separatist group, seek to create an independent state covering Spain's northern Basque Country and parts of south-western France. The group broke two ceasefires in the 1990s.

For over three decades the armed organisation has waged a violent campaign for independence for the seven regions in northern Spain and south-west France that Basque separatists claim as their own. ETA, whose name stands for Basque Homeland and Freedom, originated in the 1960s as a student resistance movement bitterly opposed to General Franco's repressive military dictatorship.

ETA is considered by Spain, France, the European Union and the United States to be a terrorist organization, with more than eight hundred killings attributed to it.

A permanent end to hostilities by ETA was a condition set by the Socialist Government of Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero for beginning negotiations with the organisation.

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Euskadi Ta Askatasuna (ETA) has decided to declare a permanent cease-fire from 00:00 AM on the 24 of March 2006.

Reflection of ETA

The objective of this decision is to impel democratic process in Basque Country so that by means of dialogue, negotiation and agreement, Basque can make the necessary political change.

It is necessary to construct a democratic framework for Basque Country, recognizing the rights that Basque corresponds to, and to assure the potential development all political options. At the end of that process the citizens and Basque citizens should have their right to speak and the ability to make decision on their future - enabling democratic solutions to the conflict.

ETA considers that it corresponds to all the Basque agents to develop this process and to adopt the agreements corresponding to the future of Basque Country, considering their plurality and totality. The Spanish and French States must recognize the results of this democratic process, without interference or limitation. The decision that Basque citizens we adopt for our future will have to be respected.

Call of ETA

We must assume responsibilities, to construct the democratic solutions that Basque needs. It is the moment for making decisions from openwork, and dialogue of the facts. ETA makes a call to the authorities of Spain and France to respond positively to this new situation; and so that they do not set up obstacles to the democratic process, leaving aside repression and showing the will to give a negotiated exit to the conflict.

Finally, we make a call to the citizens and Basque citizens in general and to the militants of the Abertzale Left, so that they are implied in this process.

Commitment of ETA

ETA has shown desire and willingness, from an open process until the end, and thus to obtain to a true democratic situation for Basque country, surpassing the conflict of long years and constructing a peace based on justice.

We reaffirmed commitment to take agreed steps in to that will and continuing fighting until obtaining the rights of Euskal Herria the future. The overcoming of the conflict, here and now, is possible.

That is the desire and the will of ETA. - In Euskal Herria (Basque Country), March 2006 - Euskadi Ta Askatasuna

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Minority mars Paris CPE protest

March 18, 2006

(This is a translation of the French Wikinews article: Manifestation contre le CPE à Paris)

Demonstration
A demonstration was planned for two p.m. [local time and UTC, Saturday, March 18], departing from the Place Denfert-Rochereau in Paris. Everyone had set out by three p.m., the crowd being compact.

Retired people, post-highschool students, highschool students and employees all gathered to protest against the government's bill establishing the "Contrat Première Embauche," — First Employment Contract.

A security service provided by the unions maintained order more or less well. Even so, an impressive body of very visible police sought to prevent any excess.

The first demonstrators arrived about five p.m. at the Place de la Nation, in a festive atmosphere. In the procession were musicians, grimy youths and colorful banners. Along the edges of the procession and at the Place de la Nation could even be seen sellers of sandwiches and drinks.

Excesses
Toward six p.m., some hooded youths began to confront the forces of order massed at the edges of the Place de la Nation. They threw bottles and pyrotechnical devices and burned a car. The confrontation, which lasted at least until eight p.m., produced one serious injury — a SUD-PTT union member, who it seems was struck by members of the CRS security force.

Some demonstrators at first sought to place themselves between the ruffians and the police, but they had to give it up, faced with the barrage of bottles.

After the automobile fire, around seven p.m., the mobile gendarmes charged, in order to establish a security perimeter around the vehicle on fire, to permit the firemen to extinguish it. In view of the small distance that separated the "forces of order" from the brigands when they burned the car, one can ask why the mobile gendarmes did not try to prevent this act of gratuitous vandalism.

The police charged several times and threw tear gas. By eight p.m., the confrontations still continued, and a mobile gendarme said that the objective was to make the demonstrators leave the Place de la Nation.

A strange impression is felt when this sort of occurrence breaks out in a demonstration that was until then well-mannered. It is like thunder from a blue sky. The crowd suddenly opened, and the hooligans were there, ready to come unglued, the crowd of demonstrators transforming themselves into rubberneckers around the protagonists of the confrontation.

Once again, a few provocateurs, undoubtedly fewer than about thirty, caused a movement of several tens of thousands of people to get out of hand.

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Duckworth wins contentious Democratic primary in IL-06

March 22, 2006 In one of the most contentious Democratic primary races of the season, Iraqi war veteran Tammy Duckworth garnered 44% of the vote in the 6th Illinois congressional district, beating out Christine Cegalis (40%) and Lindy Scott (16%). Duckworth's victory earns her a spot in the race against Republican state Senator Peter Roskam, who won the Republican nomination to replace retiring Congressman Henry Hyde.

Cegalis ran for the seat in 2004, garnering 44% of the vote, the best achieved by a Democrat against Hyde. Working off of momentum gathered in that race, she continued to increase her grassroots organization and her Internet campaigning to gain support from Democrats across the nation. Cegalis, a software engineer, was running unopposed for the nomination until Duckworth joined the race in December. Supported by the Democratic establishment, Duckworth quickly out-fundraised her opponents, receiving support from prominent Democrats such as John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Rahm Emmanual, and Barack Obama.

The race became strongly contested between self-proclaimed progressive activists supporting Cegalis and Democrats who preferred to work with the party candidate. Duckworth, who lost her legs in Iraq in 2004, received a strong showing of support from outside the district, including large fundraisers in New York and Chicago.

Scott, a former pastor of an evangelical church in Des Plains, attempted to paint the race in religious terms. His campaign was run on the principle that he could win votes through his moderate, religious views, which he said would attract Republican voters in the district.


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Talk:Yellow Sheep River develops €123 Linux based computer

Comments in the Source section?
Revisions since 13:49, 22 March 2006 by 80.171.55.138 add these comments in the source section of the article:

 * Regarding Skype for Internettelephony on this System. I doubt it, Skype is binary and for Wintels (x86) only, sure some Linuxdistro may contain this, but only if it runs on x86. Since this is a whole different architecture based on Godson-II, which in turn is something like MIPS, it won't run. Like Macromedia Flash, Adobe Acrobat and anything else which is only available as binary for Linux-i386. Well, the recent chinese ban of non-governmental VOIP comes to mind also. So, no Skype.

Since they seemed out-of-place for the source section, and weren't coherent enough to be part of the article, I rolled-back the article and placed the copy here. Karen 21:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Sorry for misplacing this, sorry for my "incoherentness", English is not my native language and this was my first try at something which is wikilike. What i wanted to say is: This system is using a central processing unit which is different from the ones found in common systems. Which means it is not able to execute programs which are available for them. The fact that it runs Linux does not mean that it runs all applications which are available for Linux-Distributions which do run on common hardware. Since the Skype application is "closed-source", which means you don't have the possibility to recompile it from the sourcecode to make it understandable for your specific hardware architecture, i.e. produce executable object code which could be run by some Godson-processor, which is some MIPS derivative, it just won't run. Except by means of emulation, which is unlikely for a system with specifications that low. Or by Skype itself by releasing a Skype-Client for that specific architecture, which they choose not to do so far. Got me?

You make a good point - how is Skype included when it must be recompiled from closed-source? Which news source was incorrect or mis-quoted? The article is somewhat technical and not entirely well organized. Your comments are certainly welcome, especally here in the talk section. When editing a story to add or update facts, be sure to edit the right section (you added your comments into the "Sources" section, not the story. Use the "edit this page" link at the top to edit the entire page instead of just a small section.

I'll see if I can improve upon the article, and include what you've stated. Please forgive me if I seemed too critical of your additions and comments. Always feel free to talk about articles in the talk section and post information here that someone can add to the article. If you feel comfortable editing the article directly, the more practice you have, the better you will be. Thank you very much for your coments and response. Karen 20:58, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Rewrite based on comments regarding Skype
I did my best to make it clear that the list of possible applications for the computer was speculation by a writer at the CeBit site. I tried to include a more balanced perspective and include more facts. Karen 22:36, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I disagree. We have no proof that Skype hasn't ported their application to the Godson. Since we don't have evidence either way, we shouldn't be speculating, either. Let's just drop the whole Skype thing. irid:t 22:43, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

The Skype site doesn't indicate they have a port. The speculation isn't that there is no port, but that there is and that speculation was made by the CeBit site, listed as a featured application, and indicated that it wasn't yet available. If you don't want speculation, remove the whole list of featured applications reported by CeBit - not just the Skype application. Karen 23:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

strong doubts about Skype and more
nexus7 03:10, 24 March 2006 (UTC) O.K. I created myself an account just to not pop up here with some anonymous IP anymore. There is more in this Article than the (un)availability of Skype which is puzzling me. At first i came across this International Herald Tribune / Rural laptop to cost $187, with Linux which is also mentioned from WikiPedia / LongMeng I found that rather interesting, but all the entries in various BLOGS or other Newssites brought no further facts to me. Consistent is that nowhere the resolution, size and technology in which the display would be made is mentioned. Then i learned to know about the Municator which is mentioned here, don't know exactly where, when and how anymore, could be it was this article. Did much searching elsewhere also. So we have rather similar gadgets in technical specifications, be it their dimensions, weight and architecture. I have to ask myself: Maybe there is no "Laptop", but just an ultraportable system which is meant to be hooked up to a TV-Set when no VGA-Screen is available? The Municator has a TV-Out (S-Video). It has also a "Factory Option" for Li-Ion Accumulators. And this Municator is just the same thing as that so called "laptop", marketed by different companies for different countries (if so at all?)? Then there is the nebulosity about the speed compared to a Pentium3. This ranges from being equivalent to it from 500 MHz to 1 Ghz, which i doubt out of personal experience, because the Mipsbased Systems i have ocassionally worked with in the past, always outperformed Intel clock for clock (some 2nd-Hand SGIs via Ebay). So, what is meant by that "speed", is the floatingpoint unit lacking, like with some early AMD-K5/K6, and even actual Via C3 and C7 cpus? That would suck, since i remember that made antialising for fonts slow, not only measurable slow, but really noticable slow. Up to the point where you disabled that if you could and lived with ugly looking letters on the screen. I tried to find out more about this, and even found, but couldn't understand it because it was all chinese, and the connection to which exactly has been compared against what was lost to me, you'd find that almost instantly when you search for Godson 2c in Google or Baidu It would be nice if someone who understands chinese and SPECint/SPECfp could further verify this. Another question is, what exactly are they meaning by 400/800MHz? Is that a reference to the external/internal clock like in some doubleclocked 486 DX/2? Or are this just the different speedgrades in which the machines will be available in? Or are they using some modern equivalent to Intels Speedstep, AMDs cool&quiet/Longrun, Transmetas Longhaul, which clocks the cpu according to its load and depending on powerprofile (plugged into wallpowersocket or operating via battery)? Then there are the always upcoming disputes about intellectual property, i.e. Patents, which Mips Technologies Inc. has for this CPU, and it is said the creators of Godson did not license it from Mips and violate it in some way, while its creators say it wouldn't matter, because it's realized internally in a very different way which does not break any patent. Part of that is in the Wikipedia Lexra,where the link at the bottom from Jonah Probell is very interesting which holds another link to a short interview. China-made chips infringe on no foreign intellectual property: science academy Others i found elsewhere Godson-2 Microprocessor Is China's Great Leap Forward, Says In-Stat's Microprocessor Report, US-Patent-Office with said patent,Slashdot- China Releases 2nd generation MIPS Chip So why am i making such a fuss about this at all? Because it seemed like the Municator would be sold not only in China. I generally like OpenSource Software und use no Windows anymore. Imagine what this system could be used for when you don't need or want closed source? In opposition to buying used Sun Microsystems Sparc-, Silicon Graphics-, Digital/Compaq-Alpha-, Hewlett-Packard PA-Risc-, older Macintoshsystems which can break down any time and often need special parts and periphery, are loud, big and powerhungry, i could have something which fulfills my needs perfectly, is small, silent, maybe even relatively fast, and i can plug in standard periphery via USB 2.0. Also € 123 would be unbelievably cheap. In short, for some it would be the "Killermachine". I'd buy it instantly if i could. O.K. That have been my 2 cents to this, so far...keep up the good work ;-)

some more interesting articles...
nexus7 04:41, 24 March 2006 (UTC)I found a few more interesting articles which may shed some more light onto what is at the heart of this system. Analysis: China's Godson-2 processor takes center stage and China’s Emerging Microprocessors According to the information therein, I speculate that this Godson-2c-cpu is not fabricated in a 0,18µ process anymore like it is stated all over the web, instead they did a a so called "Die-shrink" to 0,13µ or at least 0,15µ. Which makes a wholly new game. Less Watts used, higher clocks possible, less heat wasted, more chips per wafer, cheaper. For the more technically inclined, more about the used Northbridge is here Marvell and here Marvells Press Release about it, which sounds ok. The used Southbridge is a VIA VT82C686B, which sounds not so cool, because especially this part is infamous for having caused all sorts of trouble in regular pcs equipped with it. I hope they solved them.

Beat until well blended
It would be nice to take one of these computers and install it under the seat of your car for a variety of purposes. Although I don't work in the computing or electronic manufacturing field, I find all this fascinating. This story in particular is a good example of how nebulous the information about any particular product development actually is. Because of the comments that were being left in edits on the story (which seemed to be in good-faith but were removed as if they were the product of vandalism), I tried to verify the sources (like real journalists do). I was able to attribute the list of applications that were possibly available for the Municator to CeBit's site. It's fairly certain that Red Office is running on it, however CeBit's mention of Skype as a possible application seems less credible at this time - just checking Skype's web page casts enough reasonable doubt to mention it's not yet available. I think the Chinese view that particular application as potentially competitive with their own telephone companies and government standards. Beyond that detail, please feel free to add more sources, copy-edits, and facts to this or any story here on Wikinews. At least this story has been beaten into better shape with all our recent hammering. Karen 12:58, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Contacting Skype
Has anyone attempted to contact Skype to see if a port exists? Their press contact number appears to be +44.1273.728331. --Cspurrier 15:30, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

No, but I did check their website's download section's FAQ for Linux which was quoted for this article:

 * What hardware platforms is Skype for Linux available on?

 * Currently, only i386-32. If you have a platform that you'd like to use Skype for Linux on but can't now, come say it in the forum!

I checked the searchable forum, and even browsed it manually.

The person who added the comments in the sources section and the web site for Skype both conflict with CeBit's assertion. CeBit's video site says that the Municator "does all the basic things most people need, like … skype," and because of the language of their statement isn't very strong ( does … like ), I simply reported what the CeBit source says and what Skype says. Since then, no additional comments have been posted into the article disagreeing with it. Ironiridis has been the only one to object to the re-write, stating it my additions are speculation. With no supportive evidence to the contrary and knowing that I've only reported my findings and did no speculation on my own, I reverted his removal of my reported findings. I maintain on my talk page in the section marked "Neutral Point of View versus Censorship of Information" that I belive removing information from the article which reports alternate points of view is actually moving the article further from having a neutral point of view by omission. Maybe I'm too lazy to pick up an international phone card and call these people at Skype (or even better, Chief Knowledge Officer (CKO) of Yellowsheepriver Municator Inc., Philip K F HUI, PhD in China), but I think the article as it is now is truthful to the extent that information is reasonably obtainable. Any new facts which change the current position of the article, should they come to light, are certainly welcome. Karen 22:11, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Shame on me...
nexus7 06:00, 25 March 2006 (UTC)After finally having seen the Cebitvideo about the Municator myself (with Mplayer, btw.), i can only say that they indeed had a betaversion of Skype running on the screen for a short time. So, either Skype is porting it, or they have a deal which gives them access to the sources. Most of it has been boring, parts were interesting, especially where the naked mainboards have been shown. They had at least two different versions on display. The one which was shown most of the time had a Realtek as Networkingchip on it, couldn't make out exactly which version because it was too blurry, even in singleframe mode, looked mostly like some member of the Realtek 8139x line. Couldn't make out which exact soundchip they use, neither the Radeon7000-M(obility) was to be seen. Also it had two very small handsoldered wires running from the southbridge to another part of the board, which is an indicator for a prototype(handsoldered wires are incompatible with economically and fast production by automated production streets). Another board which was running had a totally different layout, used standard DDR-DIMMS instead of the smaller formfactor SO-DIMM and had a normal pci-slot. What else? The Redoffice didn't open some documents, gave an errorbox with stop sign and message in chinese. On the system connected to the Flatscreen-TV undoubtedly IceWM running as X window manager with some custommade menu/shellsystem layered over that was recognizable. On the other system connected to the beamer some other WM ran, which i have never seen so far, but it looked better. The menu featured another application for VOIP which can be seen at gnomemeeting.org. Seems that they are not yet ready for "Prime Time", but with an opensource based platform that can change really fast, depending on the manpower and knowledge they have it's a matter of weeks. As was stated a few times in the cebitvideo they indeed intend to sell this not only for the domestic chinese market, but internationally also. If they do so, they indeed have the most economically offer, at least for now, like it's stated in the video. I hope so, because i really want o have this gadget, though i'd prefer to have it with NetBSD instead. I'll follow this closely, meanwhile waiting if they mail me back about availability for endusers in .de. As i gather more info about this, i'll try to complement all things Godson in the 'pedia ;-)

Karen 20:13, 25 March 2006 (UTC) Shame on…

 * Me, for not:

 * Watching the video - dialup access is my only mitigating factor.

 * Making the call - I haven't the resources at this time to be making international calls to verify sources.

 * Skype for not:
 * mentioned in forum or FAQ - about work being done for a Godson processor. They've been banned before in China, according to the Wikipedia article on Skype. You'd think they'd be proud about their business relationship with Yellowsheepriver Municator Inc. and post it as news or a press release.

 * Yellowsheepriver Municator Inc. for not:
 * posting more details and less marketing hype - about their product and its development. Considering the language barrier and need for marketing, that's partially understandable.

 * CeBit for not:
 * using stronger language - "does … including" instead of "does … like". CeBit's descriptive sentence listing activities and applications available on the Municator was a bit over-loaded.

My main motivation was to respond to the comments that kept being edited into the article, which one other admin had just dismissed as vandalism.

20:21, 25 March 2006 (UTC) I just updated the article to mention what Paul had reported above. Karen 20:21, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

sweep some misleading information
I am a chinese. Skype is not banned in China at all. Instead, I talk to my girlfriend(she works in a neighboring city) every night via the little blue cutee to save expenses on communication. VOIP is not banned indeed. In fact, there are several competing IM software in mainland china such as QQ, sina ppt, paopao etc. And the 2 major fix-phone telecommunication players in China, China NetComm and China Telecomm both provide VOIP service via their own property softwre.


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Category:North American football

For the North American football portal go here

North American football referring to both football as played in the United States and Canadian football.

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