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Talk:Main Page/Archive 18

Done, but with errors on.
Is anyone else getting this error in their browser status bar when they go to the Wikinews main page? I'm using IE6. When I double-click the message it tells me that the error is on line 569, char 6, and that the error is an "Unexpected call to method or :I think I remember looking into that before, and it was something in wikibits.js, which is beyond our control (Thats controlled by the mediawiki devs). but don't quote me on that. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:34, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Maybe one of them would like to look into this ... hint hint :) Wikisoup 22:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well before filing a bug about it, we'd need to know exactly where the error is. (Line 569, char 6, what file?). Which I can't really figure out, because there are no errors on firefox Bawolff ☺☻ 22:39, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Now the line number has changed. The whole error message reads:
 * Line: 590
 * Char: 5
 * Error: Unexpected call to method or property access.
 * Code: 0
 * URL:  http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page
 * Wikisoup 16:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * And it is in wikibits.js. Matt/TheFearow | userpage|contribs 18:42, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Message has changed again. It reads:
 * Line: 275
 * Char: 4
 * Error: 'load_extratabs' is undefined
 * Code: 0
 * URL:  http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page
 * Wikisoup 17:54, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks like someone fixed it! Good job stranger! Thanks Wikisoup 19:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That is to due with the comment system. I'm not sure who fixed it, probably BrianMc. The first error is probably still there, Bawolff ☺☻ 00:54, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism
It seems there is some petty vandalism, false headlines and the like. Mostly involving Lesbians, Hookers, or Britney Spears. Could someone please take it down?
 * ✅ DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

archives

 * How does archiving work for this page? When does stuff get moved to the archive? Who does it? Is it automated? Does everything get archived at once, or just one topic at a time? Is there a page that explains this? Thanks! Wikisoup 18:28, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Unlike wikipedia with their fancy bots and stuff, we manually do it. When the page gets long, and we got bored we archive stuff (Create a new archive page, or append onto existing, and move comments there). There is no page explaining (Its pretty self explanatory; there is probably a page somewhere in wikipedia). Bawolff ☺☻ 00:56, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks Bawolff! (and this page looks nice and tidy now) Wikisoup 17:18, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

MS Explorer
Why dont we merge the 2 articles? - Andy Yen Tah Li —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.153.162 (talk) 04:13, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Finnish Wikinews
Finnish Wikinews has started. Could somebody add an interwiki link to the Finnish edition into your main page? Thanks in advance. –Ejs-80 01:12, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ Adambro 01:33, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, it should be just be just before sv: (Svenska). Thanks! --AtteL 14:46, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Adambro 07:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Featured image concerns
Why is an image of the 2005 riots in Paris on the front page? Police officers involved with the incident in question have said that they are entirely unrelated. This is sensationalism, get it off. Black-Velvet 08:28, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * There are cars torched in France in this story, yes? Well this is a picture of a car being torched in France. I don't see how it is not appropriate. And I don't care what the police said. What triggered the 2005 unrest was a perceived injustice by the police against teenagers, basically the same thing here. Ok, they may be "unrelated" but they are very, very, similar and are a release of the very same underlying tensions. --SVTCobra 08:51, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Until we get free images from the current event, I can't think of a more appropriate image. If we could use this image which is from Villiers-le-Bel, how would that be less sensationalistic? --SVTCobra 08:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I guess I'll agree with you there. But headlining stories with images from separate events is a sneaky journalistic trick that imposes simplifying relational categories, often with ideological purpose. 123.2.58.254 10:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, we are left to do this all the time, because we do not have enough cameras "out there" and we can't buy photos from the wire services. We use one oil spill to illustrate another, we use a picture of one battle in Iraq to illustrate another, one of a football match to illustrate another, and on and on. Luckily, if one feels that there is a bias or "sneaky journalistic trick" anyone can change the picture to different one. So, feel free to find a better free image. --SVTCobra 11:51, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I think this image is acceptable if there is no other image but it should be clearly marked as being from 2005. eg- a box a the top saying 2005 image. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous101 (talk • contribs) 17:22, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Colombia?
There are important news in Colombia regarding the hostages held by FARC including former presidential candidate ingrid betancourt and three american contractors among 20 other colombian military and police members, politicians and civilians which have been in captivity for 10 years. Any info on this?--24.218.27.89 23:21, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

right box of the main page is too long
I think it would look better if the left and right sides of the main page where the same size (or atleast within a couple of lines). At the moment the right side is a whole "This day in history" too long i suggest:
 * moving this day in history to older news or just beneath
 * removing oil prices (are they relevant at the moment perhaps a link for those interested?)
 * removing Latest sports standings (perhaps expanding the sports portal could permanently contain the link) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.210.78 (talk) 19:40, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I agreed so I've made some changes, should be fixed now.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Tickersource
Can we have the tickersource in mainspace or templatespace? — Nearly Headless Nick  {C} 06:18, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * See template talk:Ticker. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:34, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Interviews
I know it sounds ridiculously ambitious. But may as well ask. Can anyone get an interview with any of the current U.S. presidential candidates? Fephisto 17:43, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * We've already done two (Tom Tancredo and Sam Brownback); and Duncan Hunter's interview is complete but not yet transcribed/published. --David Shankbone 18:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I guess I missed them. Fephisto 01:57, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Ron Paul's 'Money Momb'
I'm new here and can't figure out how to change this, but this needs to be fixed.

"Ron Paul's money momb rocks Political world" - What is a Momb? Some clown wants to insert his politics into the story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.248.35.235 (talk) 23:22, 16 December 2007 (UTC) ron paul has a strong internet backing that are willing to do anything to make him president

i would not be suprised if there are *spies* at wica

doing little but making sure ron paul myspace foxnews newscorp rupert murdoch

does not get investigated

HELLO WIKINEWS
Hello, perhaps everybody here at wikinews has heard of me, I am presidential candidate Uga Man. I would like to be interviewed. I offered this challenge to one of your editors but apparently he is not up to the job. Please leave your questions at my talk page. Thank you for your time. --Uga Man 04:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * As your campaign page says, you are not eligible for the office. An interview seems pointless. --SVTCobra 01:03, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I am still eligible to run. The campaign has been gaining alot of momentum. I received the endorsement of Lawrence Cohen. Great progress is being made, this is once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for wikinews.--Uga Man 01:53, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Great, too bad he's not Larry Cohen. I assume you saw what happened on E Pluribus Wiggum. The risks are great. --SVTCobra 02:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

What an interesting opportunity. I'll take this.--Bill Saturn 19:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

 * Once in a lifetime for us? We don't think so. We just published an interview with the President of Israel and have published two interviews with notable presidential candidates. See: US presidential candidate Duncan Hunter speaks to Wikinews and Sam Brownback on running for President, gay rights, the Middle East and religion. Also see our other original reporting articles.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 19:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Novelty articles
There seems to be an increasing number of worthless novelty articles. Today its "world record attempts". (Err, that's yesterday, your time.) I know that mainstream media pad out news with these stories, but that's because they want non-news-watchers to tune in. Surely people who choose to read something like wikinews can be trusted to have attention spans greater than the average consumer goldfish? When you average six articles a day, adding six urban-legend/contest/world-record/press-release-cum-ad articles doesn't equal twelve articles, it doesn't even equal six. -- 203.57.68.20 00:43, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Corrected article title from 6th January
To fix the "palenstinian" typo, I moved Bush urges US allies in Middle East to support Israeli-Palenstinian peace talks to Bush urges US allies in Middle East to support Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, but I don't know what needs to happen to fix up the dynamic 2008/January/6. Could someone take a look? Hv 13:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * thanks for fixing that! the dynamic pages are corrected by purging the cache - the 'Refresh' links on the Main page or the Newsroom will do the job. reg, –Doldrums(talk) 13:59, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Heath Ledger photo
Is a copyvio. See [http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.asp?navtyp=SRH&str=Heath%20Ledger&sfld=C&sevntI=2776 Photo by Kevin Mazur, 2007-11-13. ©Kevin Mazur/WireImage.com. Photo ID 15134415]. Lupo 12:28, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * removed. –Doldrums(talk) 14:32, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Remainer of Explanation
Sorry, my hand hit the enter key :) Let's see if we can trust the community enough to let some editing be done Feel free to RV Thunderhead - (talk - email - contributions) 00:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Latest updates
Under Latest Updates, oil prices and sports scores are currently listed. How about also including other commodities (such as metals) and also stock info (maybe just DJIA). Bengl 20:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I am working on getting market data on the main page but unfortunately it is quite hard --User:Anonymous101 Talk 16:49, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Slow?
Why is it taking so long for somebody to interview me? Why is this website so slow? --Uga Man 01:53, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It has been decided that you will probably not get an interview. That has been made clear.--Anonymous101 16:17, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Superbowl Win
I dont understand why the superbowl win is headline news in wikipedia and wikinews, its seems unfair that it gets so much coverage for a sport that is only contested by 1 country, i didnt see a headline article about New Zealand winning the Wellington sevens for rugby, a competition contested by nations across the globe, including the US, who admittedly were totally awful, coming second to last. I just feel its biased towards the americans on wikinews, and if a news worthy article on the sevens was written, i HIGHLY doubt itd make the wikipedia frontpage news. Taifarious1 03:47, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If you disagree feel free to change the main story. --Anony mous 101  19:20, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The real reason we do not have a story on the Wellington Sevens is that you didn't write it. But to be fair, the Superbowl is an event that is broadcast to many nations and is viewed by far more people than the Wellington Sevens. --SVTCobra 19:34, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter which is viewed more, etc. We want people to contribute news from their countries and to help Wikinews to be international. We want you to write about what you are interested in. Want to write about Rugby? No problem. See Writing an article to get started!  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 20:17, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, it is my understanding that the Wellington Sevens is broadcast to far more nations than the superbowl, 136, to be exact, far superceeding the superbowl, which has a global viewership of only 100,000,000. Less than 1/3 of the US population. 122.57.114.23 08:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's patently false. Are you confusing the Wellington Sevens with the Rugby World Cup? --SVTCobra 16:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Slowness on the main page
Something about the Javascript news ticker is slowing my XO-1 laptop to the point of unuseability whenever I view the main page. Is there something that can be done about this? --12.169.167.154 07:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't think so except for removing the news ticker. --Anonymous101 16:18, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * there's been some discussion earlier about this. –Doldrums(talk) 16:32, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe using css clip property as opposed to rewriting the html each tick would siginificantly improve performance (still needs to test). Try adding the following to your special:mypage/monobook.js (or equiv)

Anonymous and Scientology
The protests got underway a few hours ago. Start covering them! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.151.43.40 (talk) 04:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

New Design
Yes! Keep it! Looks *great* --David Shankbone - (talk) 14:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. This is a huge improvement. Booticon - (talk) 15:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I completely agree. Very clean design. -- IlyaHaykinson - (talk) 16:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed, bravo. --  Zanimum - (talk) 16:48, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

the layout doesn't work very well for 1024x768 resolution - it either leaves behind a big white space below the main lead or the fourth lead wraps around the floated box to extend full length across the page. –Doldrums(talk) 19:32, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Remember that the old layout didn't even work at all below 1024x768 :) AzaToth - (talk) 19:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * if i'd known this earlier, i wouldn't have been editing WN on a computer with just that resolution for the last two years :) two columns flowing independent of each other (i.e. a table, as in old design) holds together for the lower resolution - it doesn't look pretty but doesn't have the problem i pointed out. –Doldrums(talk) 19:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * what you have pointed out is a feature, not a problem :) --Skenmy(t•c•w) 19:55, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * @Image: Feature, per the previous versions of the image. It's very unfortunate that it has landed right on the threshold of it spilling over. --Skenmy(t•c•w) 20:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * More has been acomplished at wikinews in the last week then the last 6 months imho [not just refering to this, but big part of what I'm refering to]. Good work. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

 * I know as a non-contributor my opinion is nothing, but it looked better before. Just my opinion. - Ian Lee 01:45, 16 February 2008 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.122.212.192 (talk)
 * As a non-contributor, your opinion is valued the same, if not more then everyone elses, as it is easy to ask the contributors for an opinion. Its hard to ask the people we don't talk to for opinions. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * In regards to at smaller resolutions. I was just testing it (on 640x480 to 1280x1024, but i was using the fake resize window, not real res changing), except for a few minor issues (one word of headline is on the left of the floated main lead, and the rest below it, or only part of the last lead expands to full the main box. that needs to be fixed, but its not horrible), it seems to resize quite well. I don't see any problem with the last lead taking up the entire page width on small resolutions. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Leads brilliant!
This is brilliant, the lead articles are changing very frequently now. Other than the Jaslene Gonzalez interview, nothing has stayed on the front page for more than 12 hours, as far as I know. This is so much better than the old design, which often could have articles for four, five days. Brilliant. One suggestion, can we make the bottom right lead an "original reporting" lead? Like obviously, all four could promote original articles, but could we guarantee that at least one is a Wikinews Exclusive? -- Zanimum - (talk) 21:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Further redesign?

 * Seriously, It's nothing compared to the genius of the full idea: User:AzaToth/Main Page redesign (but you have to look at it in Firefox; there are still issues with Explorer. --David Shankbone - (talk) 16:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know David, to me, the main body of that design looks too crowded. 66.212.192.58 17:48, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That was totally me. Oof. Booticon - (talk) 17:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree - I think the key to success with this design will be to assign real estate to certain sections, that people become accustomed to where to find things. I think after you look at it a couple of times, you'll see that it removes a lot of unnecessary white space that can use to organize the work we do.  --David Shankbone - (talk) 18:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know either. It also looks a little overkill for me. White space is good. --  Zanimum - (talk) 18:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

 * The idea is that we are going to be expanding our content and our scope of coverage, and the only "real estate" we have is on the main page for this work to be presented. White space can look good, but not the way we do it.  The only thing we have right now is the front page; the idea is to use the front page as a TOC, with main headlines, to other places where the "Bureaus" and Portals can do more of the grunt work.  The "Bureaus" and portals will create their own "Sections" (similar to "Metro" "Business" etc.) that will increase in importance as our coverage of those things increases.  I think a first step (in order to make these things run more smoothly) to that is the creation of the Wikipedia Bureau to expand our coverage of ArbCom, admin and general Wikipedia topics.  That proposal could stand to have some participation, so please vote: Water_cooler/proposals   Creating a new "Wikipedia News Watchdog" that writes from NPOV will be likely to draw the most new contributors to help, and once we have people here they are more likely to engage in other activities.  As our contributor base grows, and the types of contributors, the need for this will be more apparent than it is now.  But it's an exciting time to be part of Wikinews.  --David Shankbone - (talk) 19:38, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

 * I like having the main page sorted by bureaus, as you call them. That would really help people browse. But I'd just want a bit more breathing space than what's provided currently on the proposed redesign. --  Zanimum - (talk) 20:48, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I think think this design is amazing. Yes, it is crowded but that is exactly what news websites are! Look at all the information on the BBC News website. A lot of front page information adds a depth to the site. Also, it is easy to find the right kind of information needed on this site. What about adding a ticker?—DanielWinter - (talk) 09:25, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

One small fix
When the fourth lead story has a small amount of text and a large image, the two columns underneath it wrap around the image. I'd like to add an extra  at the end of Template:Main Page Leads to force the "Latest news" and "Start a new article/Wikinews exclusives/etc." columns to start beneath the image. I experimented with this in the Sandbox, and can make a more permanent demonstration if people want to see the difference. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 02:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Or, you know, someone could be bold and actually do it. Thanks, GW Simulations! Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 12:22, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Gah. Now the length of the 2nd + 3rd leads is greater than the 1st, and this is causing the 3rd lead to wrap underneath the 1st. I don't know enough XHTML to know how to fix this. Anyone got any ideas? Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 23:17, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Its hard because it varies with resolution. My attempt at fixing is at user:Bawolff/sandbox/leads. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Mark Bunker Interview Lead kinda broken in FF 2.0.0.12
Here's a link to a screenshot. Maximized in Firefox, IE7 is fine. Having the headline broken up like that is kinda confusing. Booticon - (talk) 05:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes we're aware of the issue. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It's an issue of for what resolution wikinews should look best in; And as an result of some non-existing features in CSS, either large ammount of whitespace or wrapped lines are to be choose from. AzaToth - (talk) 15:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

WAP
A WAP portal was linked earlier. Instead of using an external site, shouldn't we convince the powers to be to set up something similiar to http://en.wap.wikipedia.org ? Bawolff ☺☻ 06:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * See also Wikinews WAP. Bawolff, I will also add your above comment to that thread (hope you don't mind). —Preceding unsigned comment added by SVTCobra (talk • contribs) 02:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

New design requires more attention to synopsis
Please keep in mind that with Aza's new brilliant design, that four the four leads - the blue box lead, two sub leads, and featured article, all need to have brief paragraphs written describing the article. First, the design begs for that; second, we are creating too much white space in some views by continuing to only put one sentence; and third, it makes us look more professional to do so. Don't go crazy, but don't go too sparse. --David Shankbone - (talk) 04:23, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * And there is way too much padding on the blue box lead - I would say decrease it by a third, and flesh out the article with a few more sentences as a synopsis with the new space. --David Shankbone - (talk) 04:25, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I personally liked padding, not sure why, but I thoght it made things look better. But thats just my opinion. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:43, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

what the hell is up with all the "national hockey league news?"
First of all this is a north american league, second of all hockey is one of the least popular of the "popular" sports. Yet every day there is a "National hockey league news" headline on wikinews 165.124.116.82 20:19, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Nothing wrong with that. I enjoy the hockey news. But nonetheless not everyone is going to like every news piece we or anyone else writes. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 20:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

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Bristol campaigners: words by council are 'weasel words'

April 3, 2008

Campaigners in Bristol, United Kingdom have said that the pledges of Bristol City Council regarding the plans to turn part of the Bristol and Bath cycle path into as bus route were just "weasel words." This comes after the council refused to confirm that they would halt the development of the plan.

A petition was recently formed regarding the claims. One of the signatories of the petition, David Qualtrough, from Bedminster said when signing the petition that the suggestion was "quite honestly one of the most ludicrous ideas I've ever heard." The text of the petition read "We, the undersigned, petition Bristol City Council to reject plans to install a rapid transit bus route along any section of the Bristol to Bath Railway Path "Greenway" and wildlife corridor. The Bristol to Bath Railway Path is the most popular route in the UK on the National Cycle Network with 2.4 million sustainable journeys in the last year."

Bristol City Council's Executive Member for Access and Environment, Mark Bradshaw, commented on the issue in a video released late last month. He said that "no decisions have been made" regarding the use of the cycle path. He also said that Bristol City Council was "committed to a full public consultation". Mr. Bradshaw also said that he would not engage in party political rows regarding these issues.

In an open letter written earlier this year, John Grimshaw, chair of Sustrans commented on the planned route. He said "The proposed route, the Bristol and Bath [cycle] Path, is one of the best used sections of the National Cycle Network. When Sustrans last surveyed this section of Network it was carrying 2.4 million trips a year. This usage is increasing at 10% a year. This amounts to over 6,500 trips each day, with 56% of these journeys being for work. 58% of users surveyed could have used a car for their journey but chose not to. A BRT route on this section will, we believe, reduce current levels of walking and cycling and may well actually encourage people to return to their cars."

Some people did, however, support the plans. One of these people told the Bristol Evening Post that "The path is a public resource; its current use should not be artificially cast in stone forevermore; its application should be put to whatever use best serves the half million bristolians the council acts for and if that means turning this path into a bus route or railway or even road, this year or next; as part of relieving bristols overall transport problems then so be it. the council done right."

Some of the people in opposition to the plans suggested that the train line accompanying the cycle path should be restored. They claimed that this would be a sensible alternative to  having a bus on the cycle path.

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User talk:Skenmy/Archive 3

See the Collaboration page for the story. Several people think the title is wrong, members and non-members alike, and certainly more than those who don't think it is wrong. There are also several reasons for it to be changed, whereas the only reason for it not to be changed is "it's old". Basically, I am clearly correct. End of argument. Fallen-Griever 19:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

My RfA
On my request for adminship page you asked the question - What happened to the motivation behind your comment on your user page: "Just to make this clear, I have no interest in becoming an admin."? I have now answered that question with -When I wrote that I was new to Wikinews and I had no interest in taking an active role in it. Since then I have started to take more of a active role and have decided I would be able to help in archiving articles, for which there is an incredible backlog. When I wrote I did have no interest in becoming an admin but since I have enjoyed Wikinews and have had looked at lots of articles and thought that it is 6 months old and needs archiving. So I have changed my mind as I think that by becoming an admin I cound help Wikinews. Also, at the time of writing that I did not fully understand Wikinews policy so I did not think it would be a good idea for me to become an admin. I now understand Wikinews policy, and as a result I am now less likely to make a mistake. I hope this explains my reasoning.--Anonymous101 16:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Award?
Although I'd love to leave it there, I didn't take the pictures from the Manchester protest. My camera very much decided to break and my phone is an anachronism. I think the photos were added by an unregistered user, but you'd have to check that yourself. Fallen-Griever 16:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, but I did not take the photos, which is what I understood that award being for. Fallen-Griever 17:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought that particular award was just for Original Photography, though? Fallen-Griever - (talk) 21:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * In that case, I see what you did there. Fallen-Griever - (talk) 13:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Many thanks for the welcome and the barnstar! All the best, Dar-Ape - (talk) 22:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Embargoed wiki
If you'd like a non-official embargoed wiki, and want to avoid screwing around with the Foundation, I'll host it. Ral315 (talk) 18:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Question about sources
Hi Paul, thanks for your message, I hope to contribute some articles on life in the Netherlands. I do have a question actually: Is it allowed to use Dutch-language sources on the English WN? There is a newsitem that I would like to write, but there are no English sources (yet). What't the policy on this? Thanks, Theo Assen - (talk) 18:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Anon protests coverage
Intended to comment on this last night on IRC but ending up debating the embargoed wiki instead. Anyway, I'd just like to say thanks for your efforts in organising the coverage of the Anon protests and encouraging me to attend. I think you played a key role in this and deserve a pat on the back for your work. It was nice to get down to London to photograph the protests and meet up. I note there are plans emerging for another day of protests next month and will be keeping an eye on how this progresses but will consider attending again if I'm able to do so. Regards. Adambro - (talk) 18:12, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

2008 TIBE, nice thanks.
Because of picture reviews and digestions, I'll postpone several articles untill completion of key pictures uploading. But nice thanks for your help on copy-editing, even though today (February 18 in Taipei Time) will be the final day of TIBE 2008. Brock contact... 20:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

User:Skenmy/APC
Re: this subpage, I don't want to rename/move a page in your userspace - but I recommend moving that page to User:Skenmy/APC/February 10, 2008, and then reformatting the main planning page User:Skenmy/APC for the March 15, 2008 planned international protests. Thoughts? Cirt - (talk) 12:26, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- But I commented out the table - someone needs to update the table for the March 15, 2008 stuff and then add it back in. Cirt - (talk) 14:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

London Marathon
13th of April. Something we'd like to cover? I don't have anything in my calendar for that date as of yet. Worth bearing in mind that London will be extremely busy though which is likely to make transport chaotic. Adambro - (talk) 12:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous Protests (March 15)
Hi, I noticed you attended the previous “anonymous” protests for Wikinews. Will you be able to cover the March 15 protests? Please be aware that preparation for the March 10 protest is being coordinated at this page. If you think you could report on the article for Wikinews add your name to the list. Anonymous101 Talk 18:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews Bulletin
 Anonymous101 (Talk) 21:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!
I noticed you recently increased the age on your user page. Does that mean you have just had a birthday. If so, happy birthday! --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 06:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Happy Birthday Skenmy! Cirt - (talk) 06:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It was on Feb 22nd - but thank you for your belated wishes! --Skenmy(t•c•w) 13:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

CoS protests
Weather is looking better now. Chance of rain in London rather than pouring down all day I think. Adambro - (talk) 07:00, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Play.com Live multimedia exposition hosted at Wembley Stadium, England
You mention pictures... are they uploaded, I don't see them. -- user:zanimum  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.191.155.219 (talk) 14:53, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Image:Skenmy pxc self.jpg
Sorry Skenmy, this had to go. Adambro - (talk) 13:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Olympic Torch
Hi Skenmy, just another quick 'heads up' about a forthcoming event in London. On Sunday April 6th, the Olympic Torch will be travelling through the city. See here and here for details. In light of the recent protests surrounding the Olympics, there might be more reason to cover this event than perhaps otherwise. Adambro - (talk) 18:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews High-vis Waistcoat
Hi. I'm looking to sort out some sort of jacket pointing out I'm doing press and not OSA work for the next Anon protest, and was wondering about the high-vis waistcoat you've got; I've found a supplier but am wondering about logo copyrights and formats- is there a higher resolution version of the WN logo about, and does the copyright extend to using it on a jacket? Obviously I'm not accredited, but seeing as I'm not claiming to be representing Wikinews I don't see that as an issue. I'm also planning to put a Slashdot logo on, as I submit some of my work there too, so it's hardly a 'I'm with Wikinews' jacket. Any advice on this would be great, and I hope to see you somewhat less briefly at the next Anon protest... --JamesHarrison - (talk) 02:00, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Blocked
I am very sorry Skenmy but I have felt compelled to block you for violating 3RR on Hackers attack epilepsy sufferers in online forums. The concept of 3RR is that editors are encouraged to not become involved in edit wars and instead discuss issues constructively and this applies regardless of the behaviour of the other party. It seems that you overlooked this this evening. It is very regretful that I'm having to take this action but as you have recognised yourself, you have put your fellow admins in a very difficult position. As an admin you should be an example of good editing practices and I don't believe that was the case today. To overlook the issue of 3RR in light of your admin status would be simply wrong and send a very wrong message. I hope you can appreciate this and can return from your block as the constructive editor that you usually are. Regards. Adambro - (talk) 22:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I broke the rules and I have no place kicking up a stink over it :) However, it is a tad annoying and rude that you waited until *after* I had left last night to do it, and that it is labelled as "disruptive editing". You, of all people, should know better than cheap shots like that, Adam. --Skenmy(t•c•w) 14:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry if I've offended you but I'm not sure what I've said to prompt this reaction. 3RR is disruptive editing is it not? With regards to the timing, I appreciate that it might be annoying that you weren't around when I put the block in place but it would be inappropriate for me to block you until I had chance to fully analyse what had been going on. Regards. Adambro - (talk) 16:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * i'm afraid i don't see Skenmy's editing as disruptive or indulging in a sterile edit war at all. Skenmy (as well as other editors) identified pov problems in the article, brought them up on the talk page and edited the article to fix them. he did this in the face of some determined and disruptive pov-pushing by Misou, whose prior conduct on Wikinews and conflict of interest i've also considered while evaluating Skenmy's conduct. i don't think this block is warranted. –Doldrums(talk) 17:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with Doldrums. Remember to ignore all rules. In addition to this I think that the description of disruptive editing is inappropriate. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 17:14, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The block stands as far as I'm concerned. Ignore all rules is not an excuse for admins, who should be setting a good example, to disregard key principles and not be blocked whilst the non-admin in this situation is. If Doldrums thinks Skenmy shoudln't be blocked then why did he block Misou? We cannot have one rule of one set of users and another for another set of users. Whether or not the NPOV concerns were valid is irrelevant, the problem here is constantly reverting another user. This wasn't simple vandalism, this was a content dispute, 3RR applies to everyone. I stand by my comment that 3RR = disruptive editing. If this isn't the case then why do we block for 3RR? Blocks are intended to protect the wiki, serving as a punishment is a by-product of this; we're trying to stop disruption when we block anyone.

 * Yes it is very sad to block such an established contributor but by that same point, he clearly appreciates that his edits were slightly inappropriate and for that he deserves credit. Adambro - (talk) 17:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I understand that Skenmy should be blocked under current policies but if blocks are intended to protect the wiki, then Skenmy should not have been blocked. In fact it may even damage the wiki as it could discourage users from reverting clear POV edits. IAR is an excuse for admins if it involves edits that are improving the wiki. Adambro, you were probably right in blocking Skenmy with the current policy, however the policy (3RR) needs improvement --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 17:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

 * i see 3RR as intended to prevent sterile edit wars, rather than a prescription to treat "good" and "bad" edits alike. Skenmy wasn't simply reverting Misou, he was trying to prevent Misou from publishing an article that several editors had issues with, while he (Skenmy) helped fix those issues. i do not see Skenmy's and Misou's conduct on the article as identical and requiring identical sanctions, not by a long shot. Skenmy may have violated the letter of 3RR, but he upheld the spirit of collaborative editing by helping fix the article before publishing it. i blocked Misou at the time to prevent continued edit warring on the article enabling, thanks to the efforts of several editors including Adambro, a much improved article to be published. this block, on the other hand, serves no purpose other than a punitive one, as far as i can see. given that Skenmy is well aware of what was wrong with his edits, and has accepted the short block as the consequence, i don't see any point in continuing the block. i intend to unblock Skenmy at this point and would appreciate if Adambro would concur with this decision. –Doldrums(talk) 18:13, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I don't consider it appropriate to unblock. Wait a few hours and there will be no need. Deciding whether an edit is "good" or "bad" is irrelevant when deciding whether a block is necessary for 3RR unless simple obvious vandalism. Adambro - (talk) 18:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

unblocked
per my comments above. have also asked for review at WN:AAA. –Doldrums(talk) 18:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

RfA
I am sorry that you feel this way, but I appreciate the way you have phrased your comment and that you would support in a couple of months if I continue as a good contributor. I do want to clarify that I did not come to Wikinews with one thing in mind, I came to Wikinews to learn about how to contribute to Wikinews, and I thought writing articles was the best way to learn. I chose a topic that I am familiar with and that I thought (at that time) didn't have that much coverage on this project. I have since diversified, as you say, and will continue to do so. I was curious if I could answer any particular questions that would change your mind, other than an additional 2 months work as a good contributor? Thanks for your feedback, Cirt - (talk) 21:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Note also my note about Category:Admins open to recall, I added that after your comment. Cirt - (talk) 21:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

My apologies
Skenmy, I want to apologize here for discussing my RfA in IRC with you. I had asked you initially if that was okay and if it was alright to discuss the issue privately - moreso not about the RfA itself but about a general question if that indicated any unresolved personal issues between us. Regardless of your response of saying that a private IRC chat was okay, I should have kept the private part of the discussion about personal issues, and segregated the RfA part of the discussion to on-wiki communication, and for that I am sorry. As I have stated previously, I will continue to work on diversifying the topics and types of articles that I contribute to/write/create. To reiterate, the original reason I had contacted you was to assess and discuss any personal trust issue you had with me, unrelated to the RfA but because of the comment you had made there - it was never my intention to harangue you and I am sorry. I apologize and feel bad about all this and I hope you can forgive me. Yours, Cirt - (talk) 08:15, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Brief
I've written a script here based on the current leads. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Due to both my PCs sound cards messing around - I was unfortunately unable to record this one. --Skenmy(t•c•w) 17:12, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Category:Adolf Hitler
I thought I could delete it as I was the only contributer (not counting the taging for deletion) so I was free to remove it, and if people disagreed only then would there be any reason to restore such content. But fair enough, I guess I was overly keen to get beyond accusations of abusing cats and whatever and get on with helping run a news site. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:14, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Only too true - I guess we get used to moving quickly because we are reporting news before it ceases to be so, and forget that the process behind the scenes takes much longer. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:SAHTECH, SEMI, and Semiconductor Industry to promote "SEMI Safety Guideline" in Taiwan

OR info
Sorry to forgot attach this info. I fully participated in this announcement conference and try to summarize with my recordings. Brock contact... 16:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


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New legal British tender revealed

April 2, 2008

For the first time in 40 years, the Royal Mint has chosen a new set of designs for the reverse of the coins, first introduced in the Coin Design Competition 2005. The designer, Matthew Dent of Bangor, North Wales, was paid £35,000 (GBP) for his designs, which depict the Shield of the Royal Arms spread over the six denominations below £1, with the entire shield embossed on the £1 coin.

The new coins are expected to come into circulation this summer - and Mr Dent envisions a success: “I can imagine people playing with them, having them on a tabletop and enjoying them. I felt it was important to have a theme running through from one to another." he said, referring to the puzzle-like nature of the new design, which requires the coins to be arranged in a particular way to see the Shield of the Royal Arms.

The chief executive of the Royal Mint, Andrew Stafford, has said that the obverse of the coins will still depict the portrait of the Queen, like it has since 1998. The old coins will remain legal tender until they slip out of circulation.

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User talk:208.80.72.253

Welcome
Welcome!

208.80.72.253, welcome to Wikinews! Thank you for your contributions I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews:
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
 * Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced
 * Introduction - overview of the site
 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
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 * Style guide - how articles should look before publishing
 * Contents - the contents page.
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * And of course, stories need writing!

Here are some other hints and tips:

 * I would recommend that you get a username. You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikinews, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information (not even an e-mail address), and there are many benefits of having a username.  (If you edit without a username, your IP address is used to identify you instead.)

 * When using talk pages (the "collaboration" tab at the top of the page), or the comments pages (tab "opinions"), please sign your name at the end of your messages by typing four tildes (~~). This will automatically produce your username (or IP address) and the date.

If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome!--Mark Talk to me 17:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

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User talk:Cspurrier/Archive3

Latest
Hello, could you check and move this to the latest events part- Kurd_rebel_ambush_kills_16_Turkish_soldiers, it's already in the front in CNN and BBC websites.Thanks Newsman123 13:14, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Change Username Request
Hi, I have a change username request. --Kgargar 02:32, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * There's another one of these up at the moment. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:Renaming
I've thought about it, but I've decided to keep my old username- since people have got used to it. Thanks for offering though, I'll let you know if I change my mind. Zeest(Talk)(Newpages) 04:41, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

PS- I think it's better to just let Neutralizer be, blanking his talk may just tick him off (we all know what might happen then). I'll leave it to your judgement though.

Help Out
I'd love to help out with the Wikinews Print Edition. Just reply telling how I could help. Mikeb423 10:55, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the offer, the thing I need the most is help getting issues out when I am away. If you are willing to do this let me know and I can show you how to create the print edition.--Cspurrier 19:57, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Time to Archive
I think it's time to archive your talk page, Craig! Thunderhead - (talk) Congrajulations to Kat! 02:38, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

 * I agree, you're page has hereby been archived!--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 11:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Print edition question
Isn't it strange to licence the print edition under cc-by-sa-2.5 with all that GFDL content in there? I think it's kinda strange, seeing that I'm telling other that they can't copy things from Wikinews... I think it would be best to leave all that stuff out of there, no?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 11:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Could you please respond?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the delay. I missed the new message indicator for your question in the archiving. (thanks by the way for that). The print edition is not under the cc-by-sa-2.5. Parts of it are CC-BY and GFDL, but the overall work has no specific license (I release whatever bit of it that does not use another license that I have a claim to into the public domain). The print edition has for a long time been treated as an exception to the WN Image policy, so it may be time to add it to the offical policy :) --Cspurrier 19:53, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Aha! Ok thanks!--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 14:54, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Your knowledge of ancient Wikinews history is requested...
... here: Water_cooler/proposals.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:10, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

bot, archive template

 * I've noticed that when your bot puts the archive template into old stories, it add a leading space, which trigger mediawiki to insert a pre tag (example: Taizé ecumenical community founder Frère Roger assassinated ) I don't think this is a desired result. Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:56, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree that is bad, before the next run of the bot I will make sure it does not do that. --Cspurrier 19:36, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Help with print edition
Whenever I try to read a print edition it does not work. I click on the link and it goes to http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikinews/en/4/45/8February2007.pdf, but for some reason it is a blank page. Why is this happening? — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)   (sign here!)  02:11, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * What browser/os?--Cspurrier 03:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I am using IE. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)   (sign here!)  02:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You may want to try reinstalling acrobat --Cspurrier 00:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Accreditation:Edbrown05
My User ID = 1767 Thank you, Cspurrier, for seeing to this for Wikinews.

Hi, I got back home a few hours ago from a social visit with old friends in Baltimore. A half inch of snow there in the city by noon, but it changed to rain crossing southbound through Washington, D.C. Good chances of freezing rain tonight in northern, but not southern, Virginia.

My wife Pat is warm to the idea my recieving accrediitation. I have in the past e-mailed my Dad some stories where I was particularly active. His response, ("is this blogging?", meant I had some explaining to do :), was ultimately that I should keep at it.

My thoughts are that news is something I share gladly. If I ever did write anything for pay, it would probably be for a special interest monthly magazine, Field and Stream or American Heritage for example.

Lastly, I thought you made an important point in this water cooler E-mail discussion. I will probably be commenting sometime soon, as it's been on my mind. Best regards -Edbrown05 23:45, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, you are now accredited--Cspurrier 00:00, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Comics in print edition
I know we can't have political comics, but how about the wiki world stuff that appears in the signpost? Bawolff ☺☻ 02:05, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe, it would fit better in the Wikinews Print Weekly that I keep planing to propose when I start to have free time again :). --Cspurrier 00:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

cgi chat
Bawolff told me to contact you, regarding the irc chat you have set up for wikinews. can you take a look here? Waldir 22:04, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Accreditation requests
Could you review my tallies for the expired requests and formulate a conclusion?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 13:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Done --Cspurrier 00:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Draw Your Attention...
Hiya, Cspurrier. I was wondering if I could draw your attention to the current RfA that Stevenfruitsmaak instigated for me. I'd love to get your comment on it. --Thunderhead - (talk) 01:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Print Edition - Sports Page
Hey there mate, i just have a suggestion for the print edition. Theres alot of sports stories being published right now, and i was thinking you might put them to end the of the print edition, and even give them a Sports Page title bar or something. This is just a suggestion, and you do a great job on the PE's, thanks—Dark Squall 23:41, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I actually agree with Dark Squall here, I think having a sports section - where we have enough coverage - would be a great addition to the print edition. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Good idea, when I have some time I will work out the layout. --Cspurrier 00:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and oversight
As a beurocrat, can you grant oversight and checkuser permissions? (for Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and oversight), or should I ask at Requests for permissions? Bawolff ☺☻ 22:37, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * yes, no, maybe? Bawolff ☺☻ 05:41, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I am able to grant it,but there are some concerns about the age of some of the people. Foundation-l is currently discussing it --Cspurrier 14:33, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, the check user discussion is interesting, I would point out that I am over 18 now :) Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 21:29, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * That's intreasting, last time we asked nobody cared (from the foundation). Bawolff ☺☻ 19:45, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

IRC #wikinews && #wikinews-en
Hey Craig, could you grant me access level 29 on these channels please? IRC nickname (registered) is "skenmy". Thanks! --Skenmy(t•c•w•i) 20:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Done --Cspurrier 20:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * What's level 29?  Thunderhead  ►  20:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks Cs, and Level 29 is Op. --Skenmy(t•c•w•i) 20:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I see. Thanks.  Thunderhead  ►  20:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Alleged Main Page
Dunno if you support it, I've put FWN's story on second lead.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I dislike it, but I can tollerate it --Cspurrier 00:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

RSS feed is not updating
RSS feed seems to have a problem. Jcart1534 17:39, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Checkuser request
Hi. I have two WN:RFCU requests from last week. I would appreciate it if you could fulfill them. Thanks. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  18:44, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

RSS feeds not updating?
Hello Craig. The RSS feeds haven't been updated in a while. Cheers, Jcart1534 22:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed, I hope --Cspurrier 21:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Mark
Mark is still waiting to be "made up" after a successful RfA. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:08, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Done--Cspurrier 19:53, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Use his powers wisely? I don't remember you giving me that warning... *goes to destroy Wikinews* :) (realize that I'm just kidding)  Thunderhead  ►  19:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Kay, I won't do that any more. Thanks for letting me know :-)  Thunderhead  ►  20:01, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for changing me. Now off to destroy the world.... oh no thunderhead beat me to it.  Darn! Oh well may have to destroy some spam instead.  Can't be picky i supose.  Cheers --Mark Talk 21:22, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Categorisation of print edition.
I just looked in Category:2007, the print edition looks a bit messy in there. How about having a sub-cat 2007 Print Editions and further breaking that down to January 2007 Print Ed. etc.? --Brian McNeil / talk 21:21, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Dark Squall
This user's RFA succeded and is waitinng on the RFA page to be officially "closed".  Thunderhead  ►  23:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Print edition templates
I modified some of the templates you use on the Print Editions. The main change I wanted to make was to change categorization from Category:2007 and Category:April to instead use the full date (Category:April 27, 2007). The second was changing the License to a template, and using that template in place of the full license text.

Anyways, just letting you know about this. :) —Zachary talk 03:08, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Odd template on main page
Hello Cspurrier. There seems to be an odd template showing up on the main page (ahead of time I imagine). It is "Wikinews:2007/May/1". I wonder if you could have a look. It is showing up under "April 30". Cheers, Jcart1534 02:15, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It seems to have been fixed now. Cheers, Jcart1534 10:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

OTRS
Just in case you aren't aware, a policy was recently implemented by the Wikimedia Foundation, regarding access to nonpublic data (see ) Please note if you do not comply with these rules you should remove yourself from OTRS volunteering where your name is listed. Otherwise, please ignore this message :) Kind regards, Majorly 17:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note, my identity and age were confirmed by Danny as part of the election to be a steward --Cspurrier 19:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Temporary bureaucrat access
Hello Cspurrier. You seem to be the most recently active bureaucrat on this project, so I want to point out that I used my steward access to temporarily gain the bureaucrat flag on this project. I renamed a blocked user containing the illegal prime AACS key by request. The user is now creatively named 'Renamed user'. —Pathoschild 20:09, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know --Cspurrier 21:10, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

RSS Feeds
Hi Craig. The RSS feeds seem to be quite a bit behind. Cheers, Jcart1534 01:45, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Should be fixed now --Cspurrier 18:37, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikimania
Will you be going to wikimania? What jobs will you be doing (ie. photos etc.) thanx Symode09 15:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I will be. I will be hopefully writing daily reports on it (see Day 1 report of Wikimania 2006 for last years). I will also hopefully be presenting something about Wikinews, maybe as a BOF or a panel. --Cspurrier 15:32, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Missing source
Please provide one for Image:Windows Vista demo.jpg or it will probably get deleted.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 09:34, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Username change please
User:Cool Cat -> User:White Cat -- Cat chi? 09:26, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Done--Cspurrier 00:10, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

 * You have a request at Changing_username. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 16:33, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Problem with thenewswiki
It's giving me grief on the signup process. I cut and pasted the code but no luck. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * E-mail with an sha-1 hash of the password you want and I will add you to the database by hand, or you can try again and see if it will work for you then. --Cspurrier 02:28, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Would also like to add a few comments about this. Firstly i would like to say it's a really good idea and i think it will be good for Wikinews and am willing to help if you need it.  However i also have a few comments (not it any order - just as they come to mind)

 * If i get fat fingers and publish copy something that i shouldnt can it be uncopied (is this done by the removeal of the pub tag here?)
 * Think the pages need spicing up a little bit - at the min are a bit "simple" to me compared to other news sources (also the text really annoys me personally so could this be changed??)
 * Also read this on the google news website which details the need for three or more numbers in the url of the article to allow google news crawlers to work (perhaps the appending of numbers to the newswiki url which remains the same ie the wikinews url + 1234??)

Again i dont mean to be negative but these are some of the things that came to mind. All the best --Mark Talk 21:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * 1, will be added ASAP. 2, the pages are very dull, I was waiting till people had polayed with it some till I spent the time to work on the look, if you have any ideas let me know. 3, I will added the stroies internal id to the urls, looks like a silly requirement, but I am sure Google has their reasons :) --Cspurrier 02:28, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It doesn't like my email address (saying it is invalid). Bawolff ☺☻ 02:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Should work now --Cspurrier 20:28, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Barnstar-printedition.jpg
You wouldn't by any chance know how Chiacomo created it, or if it was entirely original or had derivative work in it? Bawolff ☺☻ 04:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Blog discussion
Feel free to join in on:
 * Water_cooler/miscellaneous
 * Water_cooler/miscellaneous

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 08:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

From User:RingtailedFox
Hey...i think someone's managed to hack my account and change its email...is there a way for you to help me recover my password for my account? 64.228.209.54 00:49, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for restoring the password to my account. RingtailedFox 19:36, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

deleting of an account
Hi, Cspurrier. I have a following problem. In the last days I was examining the pages of en.wikipedia, where I have found some hints in the articles of Anna Halman (now deleted) on the arbitration w:Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration. In this case there are named some edits of the user Zacheus, who was or still is named by his origin name on Meta; but as far as I can see, you deleted his user pages - see, after he obviously declared he is leaving the project. So, as you can see from the arbitration page, he did not leave the project - he has approximately three aqccounts on en.wiki, stil editing on meta (where he was blocked for personal attacks recently), he is editing on Slovak Wikipedia etc. The user account on Meta should be therefore renewed, I think, and a notice to the arbitration case should be made. OK, this is just a hint for you. Thx, Dooronron 19:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Looky here
You're mentioned here. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

TheNewsWiki
Hi Craig,

I like very much what you've done with the site, the headlines are looking good!

Have you sent an email to Google News yet? After DragonFire mail them, the Wikinewsreports blog got included, so I was thinking that the site might stand a good chance, especially if you explain to them how it works. Maybe you could copy part of the Community Mirror page to an "about" section of the mirror?

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:07, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments, I used the Google submit thing to request it, so we will find out soon I hope. --Cspurrier 22:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Automating the print edition
Craig, I was wondering whether you've given any thought to automating the print edition, or if indeed any part of the print editions right now are automated. I have been looking at Scribus, recently -- the open-source desktop publishing software -- and it has a somewhat yucky but manageable XML file format. Even OpenOffice's format is possible to generate automatically. If we can get some parts automated, and especially if we can get it automated so that it takes place without the application itself, we could turn the automation into a server-side process and eventually into a MediaWiki extension. Let me know what you think. -- IlyaHaykinson 20:24, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I have put a lot of thought into how it could be auto generated. Th big problem is there are a lot of special cases in our articles that are easy to catch by a human but hard for a program (such as striping out most of the templates). I have had more automation for it on my todo list for a long time, maybe in late summer I will have some time to work on it.--Cspurrier 22:32, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * If you don't mind, I'd like to hear what you think it would take to automate it successfully. There is an opportunity for us to potentially be able to afford some outside development efforts to get this done, and so I'd like to understand what's involved so that I can estimate the effort, and think about potential costs of such a project if done by an outsider.  -- IlyaHaykinson 06:17, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The money coming from? -Edbrown05 06:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Last Wednesday, I flew down to Miami (with a couple of Wikimedia office people) to talk with the Knight Foundation about a proposal I submitted to them in April. I am planning to post something on the water cooler about the results of that discussion, but the proposal may include some software development funding (not just for Wikinews, though).  -- IlyaHaykinson 06:51, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It will take some advanced regexs to strip things or a clever wikitext parser. The actual generation of PDFs or ODTs should be fairly easy. If you are able to get funding for it, I would be able to move it up much higher on my todo list. Paid jobs are the reason it has not been done yet :).--Cspurrier 22:44, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

TheNewsWiki
I suggest that we make the 3 leads automated on theNewswiki, they are the worst to update as they change quite often. If possible, would the script be able to check the leads, say each half an hour, and update them if necessary? Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 21:15, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Technically doable, but would be a problem with google and manual review --Cspurrier 22:46, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't thing the leads are 'as important' google wise as the articles. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 03:44, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Print Edition suggestion
Per the lengthy comment on the Water Cooler, I'd like to suggest an "in development" section on the print edition (if there's room). Basically list all the titles of non-disputed stories in development and invite people to visit the site and turn them into the news for tomorrow's edition. Thoughts? --Brian McNeil / talk 09:21, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

nom
Would you accept a nom for arbcom? Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 03:12, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Too late! --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * :O beat me to it!! :) Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 03:43, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks --Cspurrier 22:47, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

TheNewsWiki
Hi Craig,

I'd like to suggest that you give access to 1 or 2 trusted users with webdesign capabilities to help you speed up the progress to turn TheNewsWiki into a complete news site, like BrianMc is doing for http://www.wikinewsie.org. Maybe we can think about merging the two sites, putting your script under that domain name?

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:52, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Hi again,

 * I've read the mail you got from Google News. I think a first good step in the right direction would be to get two additional pages, one "About Us" explaining what the site is and how it works, and a "contact us" page.

 * If you don't have the time I'd be happy to work something out or ask someone else to do this.

 * --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:59, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Usurp request
Hello, there. I've placed a username change request (more accurately, a request to usurp an existing, unused username) at Changing_username, and it is requested on that page that I also mention this on the talk page for each bureaucrat. Thank you, in advance, for your assistance. user:justen   talk   07:40, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Citizen journalism unconference
Anything spectacular mentioned there? Any new ideas? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 10:34, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikimania 2007
Should I created a template for this Conference as Chinese Wikinews does? b/c last year has an article about this. Brock contact... 12:02, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry for disturbing, I've been created this template Wikimania 2007, you can add this template and add category code like  , then the news category will be useful. Brock contact... 12:11, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, This article should add Wikimania 2007 Template and Category, b/c this article is closed, so could you help me to add them into that article? Thanks. <font color="#336699">Brock contact... 12:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I have added the category, I don't think an infobox would fit. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Cspurrier could you help like Iron did? --Cigarlover 14:46, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikimania pictures
. → MR  22:21, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

IRC
Hi Craig! I'm just wondering, if its not to much hassel, if you could change by access in #wikinews, and #wikinews-en from 29, to 30. Many of the 30's are not active in channel as much, and I think we should have someone else now days Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 08:01, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Obtaining mugshots
Hello,

I help maintain the following article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom

A photo of the accused murderers was recently removed due to questionable copyright information. Fortunately criminal mug shots are public domain and can be uploaded to Wikipedia. The only problem is I won't be able to obtain mug shots of the accused murderers' because I lack a reporters credential. Another wiki editor referred me to WikiNews and suggested I ask an accredited member for assistance in obtaining mugshots

The images in question can be found on this commercial news site, though they can't be copied due to copyright laws.

http://www.volunteertv.com/special/headlines/5686076.html

Would you be willing to contact the Knox County Sherriff's office to obtain these mugshots?

http://www.knoxsheriff.org/

It should be fairly easy for you, since you are an official WikiNews reporter. Graham Wellington 19:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Mailing list discussion
I'd appreciate it if you would write a short summary of the mailing list discussion for the next edition of the Wikinews Bulletin. This should be mentioned somewhere on-site more extensively for those who don't subscribe to the mailinglist. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Portal:Football
I registered today because I saw that Portal:Football was very out of date. I have written a few articles so far today and will do every day to keep this updated. I was thinking of an idea though but I wanted to ask a sysop first.

Could we 'employ' users to be football writers for their team. So if this goes ahead there would be a group of users per team who will write up the latest news and match reports for Wikinews. The team links would be Portal:Football/LeagueName/ClubName. So for Celtic it'd be Portal:Football/SPL/Celtic. If you go to Portal:Football you will see that the fixture list has been updated, the featured results has been updated and that I am going to start a major revamp of Portal:Football. I am going to ask Dark Squall to help me as most of his contributions are football related topics.

Thanks. Please send your comments to me ASAP. Celticfan383 01:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

print editon
I´m sorry to bother you with this (as I´m certain I´m not the only person to hae done so since you´ve begun doing the print editions), but I have a request regarding the print editin (for which you are nominally responsible if I saw correctly). I am going to an event in germany for young journalists (and those that want to become one), and I thought this would be a great opportunity to advertise wikinews. If possible I will certainly be distributing some printed german editions. However the english editon is far more substantial, and has some very good original reporting (the republican candidate interview for example :D ), so an up to date english version would be very nice. I´m leaving tommorow and the event lasts till sunday, so thursday, friday or saturday would be realy good. The wednesdy editon is nice as wel of course, but it is of course, yesterdays news tomorrow ... I´d gladly set up the editon myself, but I must admit, that I think I´d need an awfully long time to work out how you´ve set up the pages (although I might have a closer look tommorow. nyhow, many kind regards, Sean Heron 23:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Exellent to have todays print editon :D !Regards Sean Hern (not logged in) 91.22.214.100 08:23, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I haven´t checked if it was you, but its been really good to have todays paper as well :D. Regards Sean Heron 14:39, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I have noticed the print edition has not been published recently (except the December 16 edition which I created), so I am trying to publish it daily. Please let me know if there is a problem with that, and contact me on my talk page, so I know to stop publishing it. Thanks for reading it. --User:Anonymous101 17:54, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. I will try to publish a daily isuue until Friday. --User:Anonymous101 14:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Presumably you can publish it now (please tell me if you can't so I know to start publishing it again) --User:Anonymous101 (I would prefer it if you replied via the email link) 21:44, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I have published a basic edition for today but please ovewrite it with a full edition if you have time. Sorry, I did not have enough time to publish the full edition.--User:Anonymous101 (Talk) 11:05, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Username Request
Hello Craig, This is b:User:Whiteknight from en.wikibooks. I'm interested in creating an account, "User:Whiteknight". This account does not currently exist, but when i try to register it, i get the error that my name is too similar to User:White Knight. That user was created in January, has had zero edits, and no log entries. Can you do me a favor and create the account for me? You can email me the username and password at b:Special:Emailuser/Whiteknight. I can verify that I am the same user, if you need me to. I will also be around on IRC late tonight and tomorrow, if you want to talk to me there about it.

By the way, this same situation happened at en.wikiquote, a conflict with the same user. The bcrats there created the account for me, and it hasnt caused any problems that I am aware of. --Whiteknight Reply 14:13, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

 * I've done this for you as it can be done by any admin and i was around. Please see your talk page on books -ie leave a message confirming and then ill mail you the pswd. Thanks --Mark Talk to me 15:08, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Problem Solved. Thanks! --Whiteknight 15:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

RSS News Feeds Summary/Full
I was looking at the archived discussions of Wikinews, and I was wondering whether the RSS feed would be updated to include the full article or at least a summary of the articles? Thanks! 71.141.91.49 08:18, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Soon I hope --Cspurrier 19:19, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Center for Digital Democracy
I spammed a couple of comments onto these folks blog. I found them after re-watching "OutFoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism". Seems they tend towards supporting blogging so I thought I should remind them wiki is an alternative for CJ. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:09, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Request
Hello Craig. When you have a moment could you please remove my admin privileges. Thanks, Jcart1534 11:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, hold off on this for a bit, Craig. I'm going to take some time to think it over. Jcart1534 16:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Just a quick note to say thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user page and talk page. Regards. Adambro 12:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Rename requests
Hi. As you're the only bureaucrat who has edited in the last couple days, could you please take a look at Changing username, where three requests for renaming are pending? Thanks, Picaroon (t) 04:11, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Sysop flag
Please remove my sysop flag. Thanks --Mark Talk to me 21:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

November 6 print edition
Was it an accident that went out? I mean I understand if you are trying to get a jump on things. --SVTCobra 03:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It was actually on time :). The target time/date is 2-3am UTC on the edition date. The Nov 5th one was a bit late :) --Cspurrier 02:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Rename requests
Hi! I saw that you recently did a rename, and was wondering if you could do the same for me please?! Have a look here: Changing username Much much appreciated, Wikisoup 19:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

RSS feeds in Russian Wikipedia Wikinews
Hello! How can we make news feed at Russian Wikipedia Wikinews? What should we do? Thank you, Flrn 10:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia or Wikinews? I am currently working on a new version of the RSS feed generator. It should be done soon, a week probably. I can add it as soon as this is done. --Cspurrier 20:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * And will it available at all language versions of Wikinews? ('Russian Wikipedia' was error, I mean Wikinews). --Flrn 08:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes--Cspurrier 22:18, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

RSS feeds not updating
Hi Craig. I see above that you are working on a new RSS feed generator. I noticed that the RSS feeds are currently about 5 days old. Is this related to the work you are doing? Cheers, Jcart1534 12:12, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed. I forgot to re-enable the cron entry for it. In the next few days/weeks it will be moved to the tool server and it should have fewer problems as well as become more flexible.-Cspurrier 22:07, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Paid for print edition
I've raised a suggestion on the Water Cooler about doing a weekly print edition that is, whilst Wikinews' grab-bag of content, sponsored by advertising so people get the cost of printing and distribution covered. As far as I can tell this is allowed under the license, just going to be something challenging to organise.

Please add your thoughts on the idea. Do we have a chance of getting subsidised enough that people can afford to print 50-100 copies and stuff them through letterboxes? --Brian McNeil / talk 13:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Rss feed
The rss feed stopped working (last story from nov 14). Old instructions for fixing it say to tell you. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:51, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed. I forgot to re-enable the cron entry for it. In the next few days/weeks it will be moved to the tool server and it should have fewer problems as well as become more flexible. The current version autopurges, so that step is no longer needed, but the notify me one still is :), thanks.--Cspurrier 22:08, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Toolserveraccount
Hello Cspurrier, please send your real-name, your wikiname, your prefered login-name and the public part of your ssh-key to. We plan to create your account soon then. --DaB. 21:12, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Auto-distributed print edition
Since you manage the print edition, you're the person to ask... Can you request a mailing list for it and distribute every new issue to the list? Apparently Commons does picture of the day and WP article of the day. We can advertise it around the other Print Ed. pages and see how many subscribers we get. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:39, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, what happened to the podcasting to iTunes? I only just noticed that died. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:50, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Didn't MrM use to run a mailing list or something?? Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 23:25, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * MrM used to run the feed for it, which seems empty now ( http://webpages.charter.net/mrmiscellanious/wnpe/ ) his audio wikinews feed is also empty. If we want a feed for it again, we could probably bug someone on who has a toolserver account to make something. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:23, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

#Wikibooks
Somebody said that you have the ability to grants ops on #Wikibooks. It's certainly not a pressing matter, but I think that at least one "regular" there should probably have ops, just in case. I'm certainly there often, but there are others who are there even more then I am. Again, it's not an urgent matter, but I would hate to have a big problem in there and not have anybody available to help.

Anyway, how are you doing? Come on in to #wikibooks and chat sometime! --71.230.33.251 23:04, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Wiki to PDF and the Print Edition
Do you think the wiki to print/PDF stuff that is being beta tested should be looked at for the print edition? I get the impression that with the right sort of setup on the toolserver we could move the print edition on to doing articles with images.

I'd also really like to see the iTunes 'podcast' of the Print Edition restarted. I can get WalterBE to list this in Wikizine quite easily. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:06, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It would be able to do some of the work, but not all. It would require us to do all of the layout in wiki markup that may be a bit tricky. The podcast will be restarted soon, early Jan I hope. --Cspurrier 20:12, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Print Edition
Are you now able to publish the Print Edition. If not, please contact me and I will happily publish future days. --User:Anonymous101 09:16, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Print Edition (2)
I have noticed the Print Edition has not been published in a while so I will start making editions of the print edition. Please contact me if when you are ready to resume publication of the Print Edition —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous101 (talk • contribs) 16:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Change username request
Weird, I thought I already posted this to your talkpage - I have requested a user name change, at Changing username. Wilhelm 10:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Is there a userbox on Wikinews that says "this user has an account on Wikipedia" or something like that?  Cirt 15:26, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh, nevermind, a simple note on my user page about it works fine. Cirt 15:57, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

 * I did the same thing of ths guy below, and if you have some while, see my request here. Cheers. :-) Brunoy Anastasiya Seyozhenko Messengers 02:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

B'crat
My vote for B'crat passed, can you give me the magic bit? I stupidly asked the stewards and was told local 'crats can do it. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:32, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Done--Cspurrier 14:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Water_cooler/miscellaneous
Your thoughts would be welcome. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:58, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Also, there seem to be some RSS feed problems... --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 09:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

 * The discussion on Wikimania 2008 has been moved to WN:WM2008's talk page and the project page started up for collaboration on what Wikinews is going to do to have a notable presence at the conference. I understand you are attending and would value your input on what material you intend to take to the conference and how, as an attendee, this will help Wikinews. As you'll see if you look on the above page I have written an introduction that could be used for a panel on migrating people from Wikipedia to Wikinews. My ideal is to have a team of four or five wikinewsies at the event with three or four on the panel and one in the audience doing a report on that event.
 * I've put my proposal onto the Wikimania site (which is horrid to navigate) - it is proposal 18, if I can get you signed up to that and working with a few of the rest of us I believe we can put forward a strong bid for Wikinews having a noticeable presence, reporting on a great deal of the events and keynote speeches as well as running a workshop or two getting people started on Wikinews. I think with the NewsWire bot in the #wikinews channel there is scope to do a "getting started workshop where people work off wire reports and other sources to do synthesis-style articles and get used to how an article is formatted, checked, and eventually published. I believe this is a chance to show people who may only know Wikipedia that Wikinews still has the "undiscovered country" feel and you can almost always start a new article where you are the main contributor.
 * Thoughts? Comments? --Brian McNeil / talk 15:06, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I am a bit swamped with work right now, but I am interested. I have some free time coming up next week that I will try to work on what we can do with Wikinews at Wikimania. --Cspurrier - (talk) 15:45, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Print Edition
First of all, I enjoy having more images in the Print Edition but when creating the Print Edition please remember to credit the image authors and say the copyright status if it is CC-BY, CC-BY-SA or GFDL. If you don't this could be considered copyright infringement. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 21:21, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Bristol campaigners: words by council are 'weasel words'

Question
I know this is currently in my userspace so no one is likely to read it but I thought I'd give it a try. I am here to ask if any Wikinews users can find any quotes of people who supported the plans. I really think this is essential for the article to follow a NPOV. Please add it to the article if you find any quotes. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 17:51, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ after about half an hour looking --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 06:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


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UEFA Champions League: April 2, 2008

April 2, 2008

The second half of first leg action took place in the UEFA Champions League on Wednesday. In an all-English battle Liverpool travelled to the Emirates Stadium to take on Arsenal. This will be the first of three consecutive games between the two clubs, with a Premier League fixture sandwiched between their Champions League quarter-final legs. Turkish champions Fenerbahçe welcomed English club Chelsea to the Şükrü Saracoğlu Stadyumu in Instanbul. This is the first meeting between the two clubs.

Arsenal 1 - 1 Liverpool
Emmanuel Adebayore struck first in the match in the 23rd minute. A low drive by Robin Van Persie was turned aside by Pepe Reina, and Adebayore headed the ensuing corner into the back of the visitors goal. Liverpool push forward looking to equalize and Dirk Kuyt provided only minutes later as Steven Gerrard stormed into the box and squared the ball to the Dutchman, who drove it into the gaping net. The marker may be judged an own goal after review, as it may have come off defender Gael Clichy as opposed to Kuyt, but only time will tell. Liverpool came alive after their goal with Torres and Hyypia both getting chances, but it was Arsenal who finished the half strongly with a flurry of corner kicks. Neither side could make another breakthrough however, and the teams went to the dressing rooms knotted at one a piece.

Robin van Persie left the game with a thigh strain and was replaced by Theo Walcott, and it was Walcott who had the first good chance as he fired a shot inches wide of the Liverpool goal. Arsenal kept the bulk of possession for the second half and it took a clearance off the line by Dirk Kuyt to keep the scores level. Alexander Hleb picked up the clearance and drove into the area where he was ran into Kuyt, but Arsenal's penalty appeals were waved off. Arsenal's next big chance was again blocked on the line, but this time by their own player. Cesc Fabregas' shot hit Nicholas Bendtner on the line, and the young Dane wasn't able to direct the ball into the open net before Yossi Benayoun cleared the ball away. The Liverpool defence held strong and the Reds earned themselves the all important away draw.

Fenerbahçe 0 - 1 Chelsea
Chelsea would draw first blood in this quarter final off a bizarre own goal by Deivid. Florent Malouda's cross was hit in off Deivid past his own keeper to give the visitors the lead. Michael Essien had the next best chance of the game as his powerful drive skipped off the top of the crossbar and out of play. The English side remained in control for much of the first half, and Drogba came close to doubling their advantage near half-time, but was snuffed out by the Fenerbahçe keeper.

Substitute Colin Kazim-Richards tied the game up for Fenerbahçe in the 64th minute when he connected with a cross by Marco Aurelio. Chelsea tried to hit back instantly but Michael Ballack's snap shot is scooped up by Volkan Demirel. The home side then took the lead on a fine long ranged shot. Deivid made up for his earlier mistake by curling his long range drive past Carlo Cudicini's grasping arms and into the Chelsea goal. The win is a huge boost for Fenerbahçe before they travel to Stamford Bridge next week, however the away goal is important for Chelsea, and the outcome of this quarter-final is still fully up in the air.

Second legs will take place on Tuesday, April 8

title: UEFA Champions League: April 2, 2008


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Vandalism on online epilepsy forum triggers convulsions

April 2, 2008

An internet forum, run by the non-profit Epilepsy Foundation, was attacked last week by a group of vandals. The attack, first reported by Wired News, exploited a function of the forums to post JavaScript code. The code injected by the vandals flashed two images repeatedly and tried to lead users off to external websites showing flashing lights and shapes intended to trigger off epileptic fits. The Epilepsy Foundation had to shut down the forum, and took some measures to prevent future attacks.

In a press release, the Foundation stated that several users of the forum, sufferers of epilepsy, experienced harsh migraines and seizures as a result of the attack. One woman, RyAnne Fultz, was paralyzed by the flashing images in what she calls her worst attack in over a year, until her 11-year old son managed to get her to stop looking at the screen and close the flashing images.

They also posted a message regarding new measures saying "In our upping of security on the forums, we have established the following new rules: No animated images are allowed to be used anywhere from now on. No GIFs are allowed at all anymore as well. No rich text is allowed in the body of messages at all, either."

Wired News additionally reports that there is "circumstantial evidence" linking the perpetrators of the attack to the internet group "Anonymous", who are most well known for their recent protests and attacks against the Church of Scientology, and their members created a reputation as "griefers" in the virtual worlds Second Life, and Habbo Hotel. The Austrian paper Krone reports that the "usual goal of their attacks is to raise a fuss or disturb others". Following critical reports about the attack, members of the group blamed the attack on the Church of Scientology.

Wired News states that the attack on the forum may have been the first computer attack in history to inflict physical harm on its victims.

Between three and five per cent of all epilepsy sufferers are vulnerable to seizures triggered by flashing lights, shapes or colours, like ones used in the attack. Photosensitive epilepsy has been in the news increasingly over the last few years as various media have triggered seizures in people.

Recently a logo animation for the 2012 London Olympics caused thousands of people to experience seizures. In another incident, the episode "Dennō Senshi Porygon" of the animated TV series Pokémon caused thousands of children to experience seizures in Japan. In March, MTV refused to air a new video by Gnarls Barkley out of fear it would trigger seizures.


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Comments:Hser Nar Moo, missing Utah girl, found dead

Why
While this is a sad event, I fail to see why it is worthy of world news

67.131.17.65 18:22, 2 April 2008 (UTC) kodiak
 * Because it is related to an earilier article about an AMBER Alert that was put out for the girl. Any missing child is news worthy. Crasheddata - (talk) 21:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I think the SOB'S should be burnt alive —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.154.26.251 (talk) 22:42, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Opposing plans of Motherhood are the Cause of such acts of Evil and hatred towards the beating of the Fatherly Heart of All Children.

The worldlyness of Motherhood will never equal the Heavenly destiny Our Father has Prepared through Sacrifice of such things as Motherhood. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.47.63 (talk) 00:14, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

God Bless her family
My heart goes out to her family. I was really wishing for better new. This is such a disappointment. I just want her brother to know that its not his fault and God bless them all! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.156.142.89 (talk) 17:04, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This has been a terrible tragedy for all of Utah, and it was even sadder because so many people came out to help search for her. Her family had spent years in refugee camps in Thailand, and had only came to the U. S. a few years ago. God bless Hser Nay Moo and her family. --65.103.226.75 04:28, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

man what has the world come to the need for violence is so high this is really sad to me i hope that we can have more police patrolling our neighborhoods so this doesnt happen again —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.8.127.81 (talk) 18:49, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

This is despicable; I am distraught, in disbelief that there are humans out there capable of committing such crimes to a child. I will pray for the parents Hser Nar Moo. May god be with you in these hard times.