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User talk:BrockF5

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Citizen journalism unconference
I'm curious about what was discussed there, if anything has been said about Wikinews... could you add about this? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:13, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Brock Lesner hey wrestling help me out man --Cigarlover 14:48, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships
Hi,

I've changed your articles, please review them to see if I interpreted you correctly. Your English is sometimes difficult to understand, but it is nice to have news from non-English countries, and to have original reporting and such nice images. Keep up the good work.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:33, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

 * You use the words "kicked off" really too much... --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * "launched" is an alternative. Should join us in IRC sometime; people don't use good English there so you'll fit right in. ;) (Don't overlook the comment below on the scanner!) --Brian McNeil / talk 11:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Microsoft launches BizTalk Server 2006 R2 with RFID integration in Taiwan
BrockF5, don't forget to add your OR notes to the Talk page. Jcart1534 11:16, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

WikiScanner
Hi

Would you be interested in Wikiscanner for the Chinese Wikipedia? We can ask Virgil to set that up and you could help translate the interface into Chinese. Then there's the opportunity to check out who has been misbehaving and do a Wikinews report. I'd also think we want to get Virgil to add "Tor End-Node" to the database so you can search for edits from that. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:19, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I got a great problem b/c Chinese WP didn't have the article about Wikiscanner, oops.... Brock contact... 15:07, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I was wondering what the Chinese government have been up to as well. Can you drop a note on my talk if you're interested in me passing your email on to Virgil as a contact for a Chinese translation? --Brian McNeil / talk 11:18, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Userpage Sharing Project
You've been added as a member of the Userpage Sharing Project. You were added by me because I needed people to test the template with. If you wish to be removed, please contact me here. If not, please add to the top of your userpage (or wherever you want to stick it. Thanks, Thunderhead - (talk - email - contributions) 22:46, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Doritos Coolpedia
I'm wondering why you are taking a Taiwanese marketing campaign for Doritos and making it "news"? --David Shankbone 15:30, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

廣告
你寫的不是新聞，就是廣告，寫錯了，而跟英文的wikinews沒有意思. 還沒有台灣政府的新聞？文化？社會問題？跟中國政府？ 為甚麼不翻譯那個消息？ .:*:*:DAVUMAYA:*:*:. 00:34, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Publishing v.s. Ready
Hi BrockF5. I set your latest article for "cleanup" as I don't feel it is quite ready to publish as is. It just needs a solid edit to account for some of the translation quirks. It might be a good idea for future articles to tag them as "ready" rather than "publish". That way they can get a grammar/language edit before publishing. Cheers, Jcart1534 16:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * We went ahead and edited the article. It is marked as "ready". Could you please review the content to make sure that we understood everything correctly? If it is okay, go ahead and change the "ready" to "publish". Thanks, Jcart1534 21:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: The 37th World Cup Baseball Tournament
Sounds good, BrockF5. Look forward to the report. Cheers, Jcart1534 02:52, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Taipei Audio Video Fair
Hi BrockF5. I had a go at editing your latest article. So please have a look to make sure I understood everything correctly and change it back if I didn't. Did you enjoy the fair? How good was the audio in the soundproof rooms? Cheers, Jcart1534 13:34, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews interviews Claire Lin of Pepsico Foods Taiwan
Hi Brock. What do you want to do with this interview.? Is there more content to add (more questions and answers) or should it just be cleaned-up and edited as is? Jcart1534 14:23, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Don't quit!
Hi,

I hear a rumour in IRC you might stop putting your stories here because your, er... "embarrassed" about your English.
 * 1) It won't get better if you don't keep trying.
 * 2) Most times your stories get copyedited into shape.
 * 3) You cover an under-represented area of the world, and most people here appreciate that and give your language skills allowance to get the stories.

So, keep trying, and do some reading - perhaps Steven King's "On Writing". George Orwell also wrote a good piece for aspiring writers, something about "shooting an elephant in your pyjamas". Your major issue is you've not fully grasped the grammar/syntax perfectly, a common problem which does not hugely prevent you from basic communication but means you need to keep working at it. Main tip, keep your sentences short. If you have MS Word or another decent word processor, use the grammar checker. Look for a low readability score by keeping sentences short, avoid passive voice (word's grammar checker will warn you about this - sometimes it is unavoidable). Most of all, stick around. You are our key contact with zh.wikinews.org, and were others seeking accreditation from the wiki we'd need your input or opinion on them. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:12, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * i agree with Brian, dont be "embarrassed" about your English . My english is bad (hopefully, i do not write much) but some achieved an agreement : my french worst, and i am French... - (flush) Jacques Divol 17:31, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know if Brock is embarrassed but I think that he is just frustrated that the English speaking users sometimes have a hard time translating his articles. I tried too but since the English was not good I could not fix the English properly. However, this does not mean you should quit. We need more people to report about non-english speaking countries on Wikinews. Taiwan is a good example. Don't quit! We, and I, have nothing against you. If we dispute articles we are doing it because we want the articles to look the best as they can be, without problems, etc. (Hope I made sense.)  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 17:40, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Favour
Hey Brock, could you take a look at this post? Thanks.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 04:08, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Apology
Sorry Brock for my extremely insensitive comments on one of your articles talk pages. I was having a bad day, but that is no excuse. I shouldn't complain because you are donating your effort and time to write these articles. Although I would have to ask that you might want to wait until someone with stronger English revise your articles before publishing them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.153.125.142 (talk) 19:56, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Category talk:2007 Taipei IT Month
Please don't redirect talk pages to this category. Discussions should be on the talk pages of the appropriate articles.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 21:27, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, we already have that in the template:2007 Taipei IT Month. I'm going to remove the redirects. The event is over so there would be no reason to redirect to a separate category or a discussion page, imo.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 15:13, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The OR info should be on the talk pages of all the OR articles. And you can additionally add OR info (like you did on category talk:2007 Taipei IT Month) to the talk page of the category for the event.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 15:50, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

bot on English Wikipedia
Someone has written a bot for the en.WP which reads Portal sub-pages here on Wikinews that use a DPL (Dynamic page list) and hourly updates a section or template on the corresponding Wikipedia portal.

Would that be of interest for getting links to stories on zh.WP from zh.WN? --Brian McNeil / talk 14:32, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

2008 Taipei International Book Exhibition: A good traffic condition corrupted by a short-term rain
I would copyedit it, but I don't understand the subject enough. Somebody will do it sooner or later, I am sure. --GW_SimulationsUser Page 11:51, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I have not got access to the IRC channel. I keep getting errors. --GW_SimulationsUser Page 16:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I use IE6 on XP. --GW_SimulationsUser Page 21:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for pointing out the archives.

Also wanted to you to know I am a big fan of yours. I think you are doing the kind of original work that everyone on Wikinews should be doing. I also learned how to do all the tags for photos and stuff by editing your work.

Sometimes when I am editing I have questions for you. What is the best way to get you a message, leave it on this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leila Monaghan (talk • contribs) 19:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, you're famous!
Glad to see the Wiki Bulletin noticed all your stories!

Have you ever thought of doing an article on climate change in Taiwan? I'd be happy to work with you on it if you wanted help.

all best,

Leila

Leila Monaghan - (talk) 20:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Taiwan Election
Brock, do you have any good pictures to go with this story? Anything to add to it?

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Ma_Ying-jeou_wins_2008_Taiwan_presidential_election —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leila Monaghan (talk • contribs) 14:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:Former Featured Pic Template and category removal....
Category:Featured pictures 特写照片]应尽快删除，如果其他用户的同意. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 14:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Welcome and hello templates
Due to the way some of the welcoming templates work it is generally a good idea to use for these. I'm not too sure about Welcome, but hello can be really confusing as people can end up trying to edit a protected page if they click in the wrong place. --Brian McNeil / talk 06:46, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Computex
Seeing as how it's the second biggest IT show around... I'd say the earlier the better. I tried translating from Google... but it's acting up on your Google blog causing something to cover the text, but is there some sort conflict going on between convention organizers? --TUFKAAP - (talk) 05:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with, you really do some great work here and firsthand reporting that we do value. However I also think that sometimes we need to wait a bit before publishing to make sure that readers will be able to understand the articles.  Cirt - (talk) 15:17, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, IRC is certainly a good step. I am not sure if the editors' blog is the right place, but it probably couldn't hurt. Cirt - (talk) 03:54, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for blurring the screen on the copyrighted interfaces on commons - the images will now probably be saved. --A101 - (talk) 07:39, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

WN:TO-DO
I have started WN:TO-DO as a place to list what should be daily or weekly points to check for regular contributors. Some parts are admin-only (e.g. Archiving) but others are things that anyone can get involved with. Feel free to add additional points and spread the word about this shortcut to get people helping do Wikignome tasks. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:50, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Your recent blog post at Wikinewsie Editors' Blog
BrockF5,

I saw your blog post at the Wikinewsie Editors' Blog, Computex 2008, are you READY?. I respectfully request that you remove mention of me specifically from your blog post, and revise your statements. I have stated in the past, actually repeatedly, that I do value your contributions to Wikinews. This is an issue that has been raised by multiple contributors and Wikinews administrators. If you wish, you could revise to say: "senior administrators", plural - I see no need to single anyone out.

Thank you,

Cirt - (talk) 19:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Change phrases per request, but I hope everyone should pay more attention on COMPUTEX 2008. Brock contact... 03:15, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. It does sound like a very interesting event. What would help me and others to help you - would be if you could gather some secondary sources to go along with your original reporting. That might give us some good context about the events you report on - enough to help you better with copy-editing.  Cirt - (talk) 05:22, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Your contributions are valued here
I really don't think you should quit, but I'll leave that up to you. Many people here value your contributions to this project. It's just difficult for us to always get to copyediting your articles, and sometimes some of them really do need a copyedit and shouldn't be "pushed to publish". Whatever you decide, just know that you have made some great contributions here on topics that are varied and unique from other contributors. Cirt (talk) 12:07, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Computex
I do value Computex. My original comments were that I couldn't understand the article, and so I couldn't record it for Audio Wikinews. I went on to IRC to ask people to edit it for sentence structure so that I would sound like I knew what I was talking about when I recorded the article. Original reporting is part of what makes Wikinews great, and I think that writing articles is a great way to improve language skills. Don't feel neglected, but please ask someone to proofread your articles before you put the tag on. --Munchkinguy (talk) 04:00, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with here - please get someone to copyedit, preferably before adding the publish tag to the article, instead of "push to publish".  Cirt (talk) 12:26, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I still think it is best for you to seek out some copyeditors. Cirt (talk) 12:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

2 Original Reporting articles
2 articles that were written by you (here and here) are not ready for wikinews. Both of these articles need to explain to the reader, "What, When, Where, Who, How, Why" events happened. What event happened? When did it happen? Where did it happen? Who did it happen to? How did it happen? Why did it happen? These questions all need to be answered in every article in order to make sure that the reader is aware of what is going on. Gopher65talk 18:49, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Return?
It would be great to see you return, even if it is only a short period of time. I would happily copyedit any articles you write. Thanks, Anonymous101talk 14:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:The 24th Shin Kong Life Tower Run Up will promote Bananas of Taiwan

Information about this news
I've participated this press conference and is also permitted by Kin Sun to write English Press Release of the 24th Shin Kong Life Tower Run Up Information, for Chinese Press Release, please visit here. Brock contact... 16:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Then I'll translate original article "新光摩天大樓登高大賽" at Chinese Wikipedia to English, for the solution of misunderstanding. Brock contact... 10:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * What are "Bananas of Taiwan"? If they are just bananas grown in Taiwan, they probably shouldn't be capitalized. --SVTCobra 00:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, but if they are considered a trademarked product, then there should probably be quotes around the term in the title of the article (as in "Bananas of Taiwan"). --SVTCobra 00:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe you misunderstand that. In Taiwan, Shin Kong Life Tower Run Up often chose a topic as a theme or slogan of competition, as November 2006, because of Chien-Ming Wang's coming and charity activities, the main organizer chose baseball as a theme and its slogan goes to "Running for Baseball in Taiwan (In Chinese: 為台灣棒球而跑)", so "Bananas of Taiwan" isn't a trademark, but just a topic.
 * SVTCobra's comment is related to the appropriateness of the capitalization in the title. See WN:SG, unless there is a normal English rule to capitalise the first letter you shouldn't. How about "24th Shin Kong Life "Tower Run Up" will promote Taiwanese bananas"? --Brian McNeil / talk 12:10, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/


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Legia receives ban; Rovers face Vetra

July 11, 2007

Legia Warszawa have been kicked out of the 2007 UEFA Intertoto Cup and have received a one year ban in a future season.

UEFA referee Mario Vlk of Slovakia abandoned the match at half time after hundreds of fans of Legia went onto the field and tried to pull down the goalposts and destroy advertising boardings. The fans clashed with police and threw trash onto the field. Lithuanian police used tear gas to stop the violence and made about 100 arrests.

Due to the fact that Legia has been expelled, FK Vetra automatically will face Blackburn Rovers in the third and final round. The match was awarded to FK Vetra 3-0. The 2nd Leg of the tie was cancelled.

UEFA made a statement in regards to Legia's most recent hooligan problem. "Although Legia said they had done much to curb hooliganism in the past three years, the body identified an "obvious problem with Legia supporters at away matches on the continent". In reaching its decision, it added: "Legia must react quickly and firmly if the club wishes to participate in UEFA competition in future. With Legia's considerable disciplinary record for away matches, the duty of playing matches against Legia becomes a tall order that UEFA cannot afford to support any longer."

Legia have until Saturday if they wish to appeal the ban.

title: Legia receives ban; Rovers face Vetra


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PETA protests Burberry in White Plains, NY

July 11, 2007 Today, at 12:00 p.m.  the  group  (PETA) staged a "naked" protest in White Plains, New York. The target of the protest was British fashion house, Burberry, and their fur practices.

Two "naked" female PETA members, wearing nothing but and  held billboards with the slogan, "When plaid goes bad." The body paint was done in the trademarked  design.

Two other PETA members were there handing out leaflets and showing a video presentation. The painted protesters were spattered with far less fake blood than other documented PETA protests in this campaign.

PETA is protesting Burberry for the company's use of fur in its products and how it is obtained. The group has staged similar protests around the world in its ongoing "BloodyBurberry"-campaign.

The protest took place at the intersection of Westchester Avenue and Bloomingdale Road in front of the, an upscale shopping mall owned by. Burberry has a retail store in the mall.

This corner is far from the mall's entrances and sees little pedestrian traffic. However, it does see heavy traffic by motorists, before whom the protestors were in plain sight. While Wikinews was on the scene, police and news media were the only other pedestrians.

The police presence was significant, numbering at least two vehicles and two officers. But since there was no crowd to control, they just hung back. Media was also there in numbers. At least two television crews could be observed.

As far as Wikinews can tell, Burberry has yet to make any public comment about any of the "BloodyBurberry" protests.

Gallery
 Image:Peta White Plains 20070711-4.jpg|All four of the PETA protestors including the one with the video screen and battery packs.

Image:Peta White Plains 20070711-3.jpg|The busy intersection of Bloomingdale Road and Westchester Avenue.

Image:Peta White Plains 20070711-2.jpg|PETA, the media and the police were the only pedestrians. Motorists were the intended audience.

Image:Peta White Plains 20070711-5.jpg|The "Where does Burberry stand on fur?" leaflet that PETA was distributing.


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Talk:PETA protests Burberry in White Plains, NY

OR notes
Again, like my last OR (School bus crashes ...), I found the story at The Journal News website. This time, I went over to the scene at lunch time, since the event was scheduled for noon, and stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the MSM getting pictures of the protest. The young ladies were kind enough to pose for me even though I just had a camera phone. I took additional pictures to document the police presence and media circus. --SVTCobra 17:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I published this as a brief, just so that it was timely. I have more, including more pictures, but that will have to wait until after work. --SVTCobra 18:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

OK, I have expanded on my observances at this protest. I also added the gallery with more pictures. It was really just a laid back affair. Nothing like other anti-Burberry protests where PETA has invaded the store and smeared fake blood on the windows from the inside. Other media presence included WNBC, WABC and News 12. Their reports will probably come out this evening. I don't want to add them to sources (since they aren't) but maybe I'll list them here for your amusement. --SVTCobra 22:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Other coverage

 * The Journal News follow-up article
 * News 12 story

So far I haven't seen stories from the "big boys" maybe they dropped it for lack of excitement. --SVTCobra 09:11, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

 * WCBS-TV checks in with this
 * Men's News Daily picked up the Wikinews coverage

That's what I could find as of now. --SVTCobra 22:36, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

--SVTCobra 22:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * AP had a story via 1010wins.
 * this story is the #1 hit on a simple Yahoo search of white+plains+peta
 * it is #2 on a Google search


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Canadian merchant Ed Mirvish Dies at 92

July 11, 2007 Noted Toronto resident and Canadian merchant and theatre owner Ed Mirvish has died. On July 11, 2007, the Mirvish family released a statement confirming his passing earlier that morning at St. Michael’s Hospital, Toronto. "Honest Ed", as he was known, was two weeks away from reaching his 93rd birthday.

"Mr. Mirvish did pass away this morning at around 1:30a.m. at St. Mike's Hospital," said his friend Russell Lazar.

The mayor of Toronto, David Miller, told CBC News that, "His store was about making sure that everyone could afford to live with some dignity and decency. His theatres were about bringing some joy and passion into people's lives."

Mirvish was known for his landmark discount store, Honest Ed's, and as a patron of the arts who helped revitalize the theatre scene in Toronto.

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Category:Media files on Wikimedia Commons

This category is for images and other media files that are on Wikimedia Commons and should be deleted locally. However, flies like election maps should not be deleted because they are uploaded locally for a reason.

To move a media file to Commons, the best way is to use the Move-to-commons assistant to ensure the image description page created meets the requirements. To add a file to this category, use nowcommons.

Notes for admins: When deleting files in this category, if the file on Commons is under a different name, remember to change the links where the file is used on Wikinews. This is particularly important since editors might not be able to do this because the pages are protected.


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Empty tower at Miami International Airport catches fire

July 11, 2007 A fire broke out earlier today at an Airlines ramp control tower at the Miami International Airport. The building is currently being constructed. The fire is believed to have been sparked by hot roofing tar that spilled. The building is part of an expansion at the airport.

There fire is confined to the upper deck of the tower. There are no reports of flight delays because of the fire.


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New gambling review could jeopardize UK's 'supercasino' plans

July 11, 2007

UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown has announced a review into the 'social effects' of gambling, throwing doubt over the government's previous plans to grant a license for a 5,000 m² 'supercasino'.

The review, to take place in September, will look at "whether regeneration in the areas for the super-casinos may be a better way of meeting their economic and social needs than the creation of super-casinos". Gordon Brown made the announcement during Prime Ministers questions, in response to a question from Labour MP Andy Reed.

The plan to allow the building of a single supercasino, and 16 smaller casinos, was set in motion by previous Prime Minister Tony Blair. An independent Casino Advisory Panel had recommended in February 2007 that the supercasino license should be granted to the city of Manchester, a recommendation which the Government was expected to follow.

The new announcement by Gordon Brown throws doubt over these plans, and BBC News are quoting an unnamed 'Whitehall source' as having commented that the supercasino plan is "dead in the water".


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Study links breast cancer to Western diet

July 11, 2007 Results published on Tuesday which are part of the Shanghai Breast Cancer Study add to the evidence about an epidemiological link between cancer and a diet high in meat, dairy, and other common Western foods (such as candy).

The study compared post-menopausal women living in Shanghai who ate a "meat-sweet" diet high in meat, dairy, and sweets to those who ate a diet high in vegetables and soy. The women on the "meat-sweet" diet were 60 percent more likely to develop breast cancer, and 90 percent more likely to develop a particular type of breast cancer which is sensitive to hormones because it is estrogen-receptor positive.

The "meat-sweet" diet included beef, lamb, pork, shrimp, saltwater fish, poultry, organ meats, dairy, candy, desserts, and bread. The "vegetable-soy" diet included tofu, cauliflower, beans, bean sprouts, and green leafy vegetables, but not much meat.


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Chicago Transit Authority announces repairs to Blue and Red Line

July 11, 2007 Chicago Transit Authority (CTA) riders on the subway portions of the Red and Blue lines may see relief of the slow zone in the coming months. So-called "slow zones" are locations where trains travel at restricted speeds because of track work or deteriorating conditions.

The CTA is putting nearly US$15 millions towards renovation of the O'Hare to Clark/Lake portion of the Blue Line and Chicago to Belmont portions of the Red Line. Work will happen during off peak and overnight hours. The CTA says that one track operations and delays may occur.

"We have heard our customers' frustration with slow zones and today we are acting to address their concerns,” said Chicago Transit Board chairperson Carole Brown. "I am pleased that we are able to leverage existing contracts to begin this work and I look forward to working with state lawmakers to increase transit investment to bring our entire system to a state of good repair."


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User talk:Thelilddude

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome!--Mark Talk to me 20:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
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Welcome
Thelilddude, Welcome to Wikinews! i just have a couple of tips that might make your stay here a little more easier. unless you're quite sure what u're doing is right, pls do not revert edits by other editors, even on articles that you've written. and pls be polite in interacting with other users. if u believe an edit by another user is unjustified, use the talk page to discuss and resolve the dispute. hope to see more contributions from you. best, –Doldrums(talk) 21:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Fired WMAQ reporter talks with WGN Radio

This article should be merged into WMAQ reporter Amy Jacobson leaves job following controversial video since it covers the same subject and this is only a further development on that. Adambro 20:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


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Libyan court upholds death sentence for foreign medics in HIV case

July 11, 2007

The Supreme Court in Libya has upheld the death sentence for five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian medical intern condemned for infecting 426 children with HIV. Just one day ago, a deal to free the foreign medics was announced.

The six defendants were not present at the court ruling, while family members of the children rejoiced when the judge confirmed the verdict. "This is a victory for the Libyan judiciary system. We are awaiting the execution of the death sentence," said Al-Monseif Khalifa, a lawyer for the plaintives.

E.U. Commission President remains hopeful that the medics will receive clemency. "We regret that these decisions have been made, but I also want to express my confidence that a solution will be found," Barroso told the.

called for a quick solution. He said the verdict came as no surprise, and expressed his hope for a swift final solution. The case will now move to the Supreme Judiciary Council which will hear the case on Monday, according to Libya's Foreign Minister, Mohammed Abdel-Rahman Shalgam. The Council is headed by the Justice Minister of Libya.

Late Tuesday, the Gaddafi Foundation, a non-profit run by the son of Libya's de facto leader Muammar al-Gaddafi, said a deal had been reached to free the health workers. The head of the Association for the Families of the HIV-Infected Children, Idriss Lagha, also said announced that a deal could be reached soon.

After the verdict today, Salah Abdessalem, a spokesman for the Gadhafi International Foundation for Charity Associations, reconfirmed to the Associated Press that a settlement to free the detainees still exists, which he said was acceptable to all parties and would end the crisis, without giving further details.

Unnamed officials who wished to remain anonymous disclosed the deal would involve financial compensation in exchange for the death sentences being commuted to a prison sentence, according to the Associated Press. E.U. officials say the European Union would agree to establish a fund of tens of millions of dollars to pay for the children's future medical care. Bulgaria and the European Union are calling it humanitarian aid instead of compensation, which would imply that their citizens would be guilty.

The convicted nurses and medical intern began working in the El-Fath Children's Hospital in Benghazi in 1998, and were arrested and jailed one year later when over 400 children were found to be infected with HIV -over 50 have died since. They were sentenced to death in 2004, and again after a retrial last December which came after an international outcry about the affair.

A scientific report by professors (one of the original discoverers of the virus causing AIDS) and  used as evidence for the defence in the case said that the virus causing AIDS was widely spread in the hospital before the health workers even arrived, and that the infections were due to negligence and poor hygiene procedures in the Benghazi hospital. The prosecution introduced a report of Libyan scientists saying that this was not the case. The detainees have said that they have been tortured to make confessions.


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Agassi and Sharapova voted Wimbledon's sexiest champions on commercial website

July 11, 2007

and Maria Sharapova have been voted the sexiest Wimbledon champions from the last twenty years according to a survey conducted by the U.K. commercial website GetMeATicket.

Agassi and received 77% of the votes as the sexiest champion amongst names such as and. Maria Sharapova racked up 68% of the votes. Agassi won the single's title at Wimbledon in 1992, Sharapova lifted the women's trophy in 2004.

In the survey, 2,536 were cast between July 2 and 6.

Results
Full list of Wimbledon champions from the last 20 years and their percentage of votes for being the 'sexiest' in this survey:

The website's press release did not explain why the percentages add up to more than 100%.


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Amy Jacobson

 * don't put ur name into articles
 * sources don't say she was fired
 * where did the pdf come from? it is better to link to the publisher's page than to upload a copy here. –Doldrums(talk) 21:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

 * again, pls do not revert others until learn how wikinews works, get the hang of it. –Doldrums(talk) 21:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

and below are a few links to get you started -

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where did you get it from? if it available online, it is better to link to the publisher's website than upload a copy here on Wikinews.

Lady Bird
Please slow down, you are creating edit conflicts. THIS IS FROM CNN does not count as a source, and and ading information like that will get you blocked. Thank you for breaking this story. --Wpktsfs 21:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

MSNBC is a source and will be used, also, we do not promote other news agencies. --Wpktsfs 22:01, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

MSNBC is where I got it from, the Johnson family did not call you so it is not original reporting. Please slow down. --Wpktsfs 22:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

It is not your article, it is in the mainspace, it is owned by everyone that contributes, period. Articles are not owned. Also, I have been able to back it up, one source is better than none. Please sign your comments. --Wpktsfs 22:07, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Wikinews readers rely on being able to verify news stories by checking the sources we list. so we make an effort to use sources which are easy to access. "Thelilnewsdude saw it on CNN" is not easy to access or verify, so we prefer to use the many online news sources that've now started to report on this story. if there is info you added to the article that is not stated in the sources added, feel free to add other sources that do state the info, or in the worst case remove the info if an adequate source is not found.

 * more broadly, i appreciate your enthusiasm in contributing to wikinews, but i also strongly urge you to take a little while to read the introductory links above, look at a few published articles to get the hang of how we do things here - not all of it is obvious or unneccessary.

 * Wikinews is a collaborative project and we need to work together to make it go well. u getting pissed off for being reverted all the time or me getting pissed off because articles are published you think are ok but i know fail our policies will not help. best, –Doldrums(talk) 22:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I would like to apologize for the fact that we got in a little edit war. I am very happy that you broke the news to me, before I even got my CNN message on my mobile. Perhaps I did not explain policy clear enough during the timeframe of our discussion. We are not here to bash one another, but rather to create a free news source and learn from one another. I would like to start fresh, and look forward to editing other articles with you in the future. Wishes, --Wpktsfs 22:27, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

any more reverts
and u can spend the nextfew hours blocked to give you time to familiarize urself reading policies and guidelines with Wikinews. –Doldrums(talk) 22:12, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Titles
Adding comments like "finally" to article titles is not serious. I understand that because we are possibly all overwhelming you with these you might feel offended, but cool down and try to be serious our you will be re-blocked. Read WN:NPOV and WN:SG before making more changes, they are key policies here. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Our guidelines on headlines state that you shouldn't use camelcase, but downstyle capitalisation (not Chicago Transit Authority Announces Blue and Red Line Repairs but Chicago Transit Authority announces Blue and Red Line repairs). --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:40, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

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Hi,

if you want to use images, we need:

 * 1) A link to where you found the image
 * 2) A reason why this image, if copyrighted, should constitute fair use and not be a copyright violation

If not the policies allow us to delete it without further warning.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:23, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Some more advise
Hi again,

you're new, so please try to avoid publishing things that might not be ready. You can just add ready, and a friendly user with more experience on this wiki will come along, make some finishing touches and publish the article in an acceptable fashion. There's no point: they will be unpublished if not ready, they appear below on the main page even without a publish, and you'll put stories that aren't ready yet on the main page.

See also: Publish checklist.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:45, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Chicago Transit Authority Announces Blue and Red Line Repairs
I rolled back your edits. Not sure why you removed the wiki-links, but the old projects do not belong in the story. --SVTCobra 23:47, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Why are you reverting my edits? If you want to re-add certain information, or change the picture back, fine. But don't do so by overwriting other peoples contributions. --SVTCobra 23:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * This is Wikinews, you do not own the article. Your section on "slow zones" is hard to understand. The terminology is unfamiliar to me and I am sure it is to most readers. And what is the source for this information? If it is unsourced I will have to remove it again. --SVTCobra 02:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Craig Stebic named person of interest in Illinois disappearance
Hi again. I wish you would pay a little more respect to the editorial process and not re-publish articles until all of the issues have been addressed. Thanks, --SVTCobra 01:13, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * What I mean is this: This article was tagged for cleanup, with several reasons listed. You took it upon yourself to republish this article and removing the tag after fixing only one thing. The process is if an editor says the article is unpublishable for reasons x,y, and z; then x, y, and z should be fixed before republishing. If you feel that one or more of x, y, and z are not valid reasons, then it needs to be discussed on the collaboration page. OK? P.S. don't forget to sign your comments. --SVTCobra 16:49, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Images
We cannot use images from other news organisations per WN:FU, such images can be deleted on-sight by administrators. Adambro 16:39, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

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User template
See also User OTRS, which outputs to: Category:OTRS volunteers. Cirt (talk) 19:11, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Meta RfCs on two new global groups
Hello all,

There are currently requests for comment open on meta to create two new global groups. The first is a group for members of the OTRS permissions queue, which would grant them autopatrolled rights on all wikis except those who opt-out. That proposal can be found at Requests for comment/Creation of a global OTRS-permissions user group. The second is a group for Wikimedia Commons admins and OTRS agents to view deleted file pages through the 'viewdeletedfile' right on all wikis except those who opt-out. The second proposal can be found at Requests for comment/Global file deletion review.

We would like to hear what you think on both proposals. Both are in English; if you wanted to translate them into your native language that would also be appreciated.

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Former US First Lady, Lady Bird Johnson dies at 94

July 11, 2007 Former First Lady Lady Bird Johnson nee Claudia Alta Taylor, wife of United States President Lyndon B. Johnson, has died at her home in Austin, Texas. She was 94. She died of natural causes about 4:18 p.m. CDT (UTC-5). Her family and friends surrounded her when she passed.

Bess Truman, who reached the age of 97, was the only other first lady to live past 90. Lady Bird Johnson became first lady after the assassination of John F. Kennedy. After her husband's presidency, she became known as an advocate of various environmental projects and environmentalism in general.

As President Johnson and his wife, Lady Bird, criss-crossed States by road during the 1964 presidential campaign, she informed her husband of her feelings about the roadside junkyards they saw along the way. Inspired by her comments and enthusiasm from audiences, he observed "If it's beautifying they want, it's beautifying they'll get." Recognizing that "ours is an automobile society," the President did not want to curtail roads. He wanted to make roads the "highways to the enjoyment of nature and beauty." Lady Bird thought that her love of seeing Texas highways in spring had influenced her husband. She enjoyed the results of Texan wildflower conservation programs which began in the 1930s.

One of the most prominent results of the President's beauty initiative was the Highway Beautification Act of 1965. It created restrictions on billboards and junkyards. As expected, it had been controversial. When the House considered its version of the bill on October 7, the debate lasted into the early morning hours of October 8. A pointed, but tongue-in-cheek amendment by Representative Robert Dole (R-Kan.) to strike out the term "Secretary of Commerce" wherever it appeared in the bill and insert the words "Lady Bird" lost by a voice vote. Saying, "Beauty belongs to all the people," the President signed the bill and gave the pen to Lady Bird, along with a kiss on the cheek.

In 1982, she founded the National Wildflower Research Center to continue the mission of changing public attitudes toward native plants. In 1997 it was renamed the Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center.


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Title issues
what the heck's "rehabbed"? –Doldrums(talk) 22:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Beats me, I don't even speak proper English. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * "rehabbed" = "rehabilitated". 216.47.133.136 00:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

"Slow Zones" section
Thelilnewsdude was very insistent on this section, but it seems unsourced. I have hidden it so the story can be published. If it remains unsourced, it should be removed. --SVTCobra 00:42, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thelilnewsdude undid my solution. Cleanup needed. Even with a source, this section seems to be in engineering terms. Needs to be fixed for public consumption. --SVTCobra 00:51, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It appears the section has been retracted and the story re-published. --SVTCobra 01:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


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I am not keen on the use of headlines in this article. --SVTCobra 22:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Lets see how it is without the headlines. Kingjeff 02:38, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I got rid of the headlines. Kingjeff 02:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Much better, in my opinion. --SVTCobra 02:49, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

How does the article rate overall? Kingjeff 03:06, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Agassi and Sharapova voted Wimbledon's sexiest champions on commercial website

How is this notable? GetMeATicket.co.uk? sounds like an advertisement to me, and it is written in a very unprofessional manner, with too many figures. 24.13.55.149 23:07, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay it's advertisement crap, but I've cleaned it up a bit and now it's just wackynews.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

These are the numbers as published by the source, but they don't add up. --SVTCobra 11:13, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've noticed... probably because they could vote for more than one person or something. It's wackynews anyway. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 11:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Problem with the mathematics
Interested to know how the voting worked as it seems odd that the top two men, Agassi and Cash, appear to have 100% of the vote. It is a similar situation with the women, in that the top three ladies combined have over 100%.

Please use the local link for Wimbledon
editprotected acagastya 04:49, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
 * There are other things in there that have local links. Can't these just wait for Pi zero's w project? Then it will all be fixed. It seems a waste of time to do one link and then the rest of the article still needs to be fixed. --SVTCobra 16:55, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
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NASA says water found on exoplanet

July 12, 2007

NASA says that the Spitzer Space Telescope has detected water vapour on HD 189733b, a massive exoplanet orbiting the dwarf star HD 189733, "trillions of miles" outside our solar system. The water vapours were found in the planet's atmosphere.

"We're thrilled to have identified clear signs of water on a planet that is trillions of miles away," said Giovanna Tinetti, a European Space Agency researcher and main author of NASA's study, at the Institute d’Astrophysique de Paris France.

The planet, termed a "wet Jupiter", takes approximately two days to orbit its sun and its surface temperatures are estimated to be at least 1,000 Kelvin (1,340 Fahrenheit/727 Centigrade) which, according to scientists, makes it unlikely that life would exist there. The presence of water was observed by using the telescope to examine the absorption spectra as the planet transited across its star.

"Finding water on this planet implies that other planets in the universe, possibly even rocky ones, could also have water," said co-author Sean Carey of NASA's Spitzer Science Center at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena.

Similar evidence for another hot gas giant, previously gathered using the Hubble telescope, was not widely accepted due to experimental noise and similar concerns.

HD 189733b is located 63 light-years away from Earth in the constellation Vulpecula.

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Comments:Hamas forces seized 80 bags with chemicals from the agriculture college in the Gaza Al-Azhar University

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I moved the status of this article from "abandoned" to "published" so it doesn't get deleted, and there's a reason for it.

A few months before the 2006 Lebanon War I posted a Wikinews report that stated that Hizballa acquired thousands of rockets of a new model. Since there was no development on that issue, the article became "abandoned" and eventually deleted. When, a few months later, these rockets were used against Israel, there was no relevant history about it on Wikinews.

And now Hamas acquire 80 bags of chemical materials from the agriculture department of the university. It's true that there was nothing in the news about it since it was first reported (I checked), but this article should remain, because of its possible future developments.

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AFC Asian Cup: Indonesia shock Bahrain, China put five past Malaysia

July 11, 2007

Co-hosts Indonesia have defeated Bahrain 2-1 in their opening 2007 AFC Asian Cup Group D fixture.

Cheered on by 60,000 predominantly-Indonesian fans at the Bung Karno Stadium in Jakarta, Indonesia took the lead in the fourteenth minute through Budi Sudarsono.

Sudarsono received a lofted ball from midfield and pushed his first touch around the advancing Bahrain goalkeeper, Abdul Rahman Ahmed. Left with an open goal, the Indonesian striker calmly slotted home the first goal of the match.

Bahrain equalised thirteen minutes later when midfielder Sayed Mahmood Jalal prodded the ball into the back of the net. After a curling cross from the right-hand side, the Indonesian defence failed to clear, and the ball found its' way through the goalline scramble for Jalal to score.

The scores remained 1-1 until half time, however Indonesia took the lead again on sixty-four minutes. Midfielder Firman Utina drove a low, hard shot towards the Bahrain goal from 30 yards out, forcing a low save by Bahrain goalkeeper Ahmed. Ahmed's save rebounded onto the post and back out towards the penalty spot, where Bambang Pamungkas charged onto the loose ball and placed it in the top-right hand corner of the net.

Indonesia sit atop the Group D table after just the one match, with Iran and Uzbekistan playing the second match in the group.

In Group C, Malaysia became the only of the four co-hosts not to take any points from their first Group Stage match when they lost to China 5-1.

Striker Han Peng and midfielder Wang Dong both scored doubles for the visitors at the Bukit Jalil Stadium, Kuala Lumpur, taking them to equal leaders of the individual goalscoring list.

Han Peng got China's first in the fifteenth minute when he headed home a cross from the right-hand wing. Midfielder Shao Jiayi got their second after thirty-six minutes, when a pass cut back from near the goal-line reached him on the far post after leaving the Malaysian goalkeeper Azizon Abdul Kadir stranded. The score remained at 2-0 at half time.

Six minutes after the break, Wang Dong got his first of two goals when his shot from twenty yards was deflected, again leaving the Malaysian goalkeeper stranded going in the wrong direction. Han Peng got his second only four minutes later, after he got on the end of a cross from the right-hand wing by midfielder Mao Jianqing.

Malaysia made the score 4-1 after Indra Putra Mahayuddin scored from 25 yards. After receiving a lay-off from Hairuddin Omar, Indra Putra sent a curling strike past outstretched Chinese goalkeeper Li Leilei and into the bottom of the net.

Wang Dong completed his double in the ninety-third and final minute of the match, with a looping header over the Malaysian goalkeeper. The pass to Wang Dong, a lofted ball from outside the penalty area, drew 'keeper Kadir off his line to allow Wang Dong to head over and into the goal.

As with Indonesia, China now sit atop Group C with a good goal difference. The other Group C teams are Korea Republic play Saudi Arabia, who will play at the same stadium twenty-four hours after the China-Malaysia game.


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Fox Sports 2, 7:00pm ACST for INA-BAH and 9:50pm ACST for MAL-CHI. I've got both games recorded on my Foxtel box, and both games are noted. If I can get my scanner working, I'll upload my notes to Imageshack or something.

To confirm my times and the attendance figure for INA-BAH, I used the AFC official match reports. Hence, they're linked as "External links" in the article. Cheers,  Daniel  05:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Arbitration Committee/Elections July 2007/SVTCobra Questions

This is the page dedicated for allowing anyone to ask SVTCobra questions regarding his candidacy for the July 2007 Arbitration Committee elections.

 * Is the Moon made of cheese? Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 05:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Answer: The seismic velocity of moon "rock" is much closer to cheese than any rock found on earth. I admit that this is not conclusive proof that the moon is made of cheese. To maintain WN:NPOV, Wikinews articles should neither presume that the Moon is made of cheese nor that it isn't. --SVTCobra 18:43, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

 * What are your thoughts on this proposal/statement?  Daniel  04:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Answer: I must admit that I don't quite understand why ArbCom should be suspended and then re-activated if there is a dispute. I mean what is the difference between a suspended ArbCom and an ArbCom with no pending cases? Are there weekly meetings even if there are no cases pending or something else that I am not aware of?
 * That being said, I do understand the concept of setting a higher bar before ArcCom hears cases. Perhaps policy should be revised such that ArbCom does not automatically accept any case that is put before them, but rather one or two Admins (not party to the dispute, of course) must agree that a legitimate dispute exists, before invoking ArbCom. However, this change in policy should be a community vote and can be done at any time. There is no reason to commingle it with the election of committee members.
 * Maybe we are saying the same thing and I am just loath to used the term "suspend". --SVTCobra 14:46, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, I am not currently taking a position on whether there should be a "higher standard" before ArbCom hears a case. Since there are so few cases recently, perhaps there shouldn't be, but I haven't given this issue enough thought yet. Nonetheless, I do understand the concept, if circumstances should arise under which the process gets abused. --SVTCobra 00:07, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Why should we vote for you and not for someone else? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Answer: You should vote for me if you think I am best-suited for the job. I think, I am well-suited as I expressed in my acceptance. I am volunteering my time and service. --SVTCobra 14:02, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Where can I find a record of your deeds? Laleena 15:52, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Answer: my contributions can be viewed here Contributions/SVTCobra. My User:SVTCobra page has a list of articles that I started (though it is not entirely up-to-date). --SVTCobra 16:09, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Arbitration Committee/Elections July 2007/IlyaHaykinson Questions

This is the page dedicated for allowing anyone to ask IlyaHaykinson questions regarding his candidacy for the July 2007 Arbitration Committee elections.

 * Is the Moon made of cheese? Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 05:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Yes, it is -- IlyaHaykinson 02:00, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

 * What are your thoughts on this proposal/statement?  Daniel  04:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that suspending the ArbCom will lead to a mad rush when we have some sort of a problem that isn't possible to resolve through normal mediation/arbitration. Elections take just a little bit of time and I'd rather ensure that we have a structure in place in case we need it. -- IlyaHaykinson 17:20, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

 * What is the biggest reason we should *not* vote for you, if any? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:33, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not planning to be an activist in resolving ArbCom cases: while I have my opinions and intent to vote in ArbCom votes, I do not want to the the one driving the process along. In other words, I intend to be a voting member rather than an organizing member of the committee.  If you are looking for a more activist member who is trying to change the ArbCom, the arbitration process, or drive the individual cases along, I wouldn't be your candidate. -- IlyaHaykinson 17:20, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


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 * Is the Moon made of cheese? Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 05:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * If it is, it has been up there so long that it must've passed its expiry date. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

 * What is your take on systemic bias here on Wikinews? What do you feel about our chronic lack of female contributors, and how it reflects on the ArbCom candidates all being white males between 15 and 45 from Western countries? Doesn't cultural perspective influence discussion processes? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:47, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Our systemic bias is a problem, and one I'm not sure how to address. I would hope that if we run a writing contest we'll attract more contributors, but I'm afraid it'll just be more white males. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Out of interest, how do we know, that just because we are all from Western countries, that we are all white? Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 09:18, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I was following on from SFS's assumption, do you know something I don't? --Brian McNeil / talk 09:21, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I was just thinking outwards. Haver reading SFM's comment Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 10:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Arbitration Committee/Elections July 2007/Markie Questions

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 * Is the Moon made of cheese? Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 05:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * hell, why not! got to be chedder though!! see A Grand Day Out (pic top left!!--Mark Talk to me 08:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

 * What are your thoughts on this proposal/statement?  Daniel  04:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Suspending it seems like a very rash move to me. i see no problem with a ArbCom that doesnt do anything - the less they do the better as it means fewer disputes on WN.

 * Do you think you are patient and well-considering enough for ArbCom? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:47, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * some times i do make descisions to quickly but this is normally on my own in blocking situations, however with the arbcom i would have time to look over the facts and make an informed decision. Well-considering - i like to think that i would take everything into account to make an end decision but if anyone wants to say other wise then i dont mind.  --Mark Talk to me 19:53, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


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2007 FIFA U20 World Cup: Austria, Czech Republic, Spain and US make it to quarters

July 12, 2007 Austria, United States, Czech Republic and Spain all made it into the quarter-finals of the bi-annual FIFA U-20 World Cup.

Austria beat Gambia 2-1 when Austrian substitute Erwin Hoffer scored in the 81st minute. The Americans came from behind to beat Uruguay 2-1 in extra time. The Czech Republic beat Japan on penalty kicks after coming level on 2 penalty kicks in normal time and Spain knocked out Brazil 4-2 in extra time with 1 goal in each of the 2 extra periods.

The Round of 16 continues today when Chile faces Portugal in Edmonton, Zambia faces Nigeria in an all African match up in Ottawa, Argentina faces Poland in Toronto and Mexico faces Congo.

In the quarter-finals, Austria will play the United States, Czech Republic will face Spain, the winner of Chile/Portugal will face the winner of Nigeria/Zambia and the winner of Argentina/Poland will face the winner of Mexico/Congo.

Summary from the round of 16

 * Austria wins 2-1 against Gambia.
 * United States wins 2-1 in extra time against Uruguay.
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AFC Asian Cup: Lights fail as Korea draw with Saudi Arabia, Iran defeat Uzbekistan

July 12, 2007

A lighting failure five minutes from the end interrupted the 2007 AFC Asian Cup Group D match between Korea Republic and Saudi Arabia.

The match, played at the Bung Karno Stadium in Jakarta, Indonesia, was stopped for 27 minutes after the lighting on one half of the stadium suddenly turned off.

At the time of the disruption - 84 minutes 35 seconds played - the match was delicately poised at one goal apiece.

An spokesperson for the Asian Football Confederation has said that the lighting failure was 'due to problems with power around Jakarta city'.

Referee Mark Shield, from Australia, immediately stopped the match after the lights turned out. Under tournament rules, officials had one hour to get the lights and play restarted before the match would have to be abandoned. An emergency generator was used to restore some of the knocked-out lights to a sufficient level for playing, allowing Shield to restart play after the lengthy delay.

The match was an eventful one generally, especially after half time. Both teams played a cautious first half which was devoid of any real scoring opportunities.

However, after the break, Korea went 1-0 ahead through striker Choi Sung-Kuk after sixty-six minutes. A curling cross from the left-hand wing found the head of Sung-Kuk, who moved in front of the Saudi defender and headed the ball into the bottom right-hand corner of the net.

Eleven minutes later, referee Shield awarded Saudi Arabia a penalty kick after Malek Mouath was adjudged to have been fouled inside the penalty box by a Korean defender. Captain Yasser Al-Qahtani stepped up and converted to level the scores 1-1 after seventy-seven minutes.

After play was restarted due to the power failure, Saudi Arabia had an excellent chance to win the match with the final kick of the game. Striker Saad Al Harthi missed a one-on-one opportunity with the Korean goalkeeper, pushing his shot wide.

The draw leaves hosts Indonesia on top of the Group D table after defeating Bahrain 2-1 in the opening match of the group.

In Group C, Iran has come back from a goal down to defeat Uzbekistan 2-1 at the Bukit Jalil Stadium, Kuala Lumpur.

Iran conceded the lead to Uzbekistan on sixteen minutes when Iranian defender Rahman Rezaei scored an own goal. Trying to head the ball back to his goalkeeper Hassan Roudbarian, Rezaei only managed to head the ball over Roudbarianand into the back of his own net.

The score remained 1-0 until the fifty-fifth minute, when Iran equalised through Seyed Jalal Hosseini. Hosseini headed a fast-moving corner kick from the right hand side by Mehdi Mahdavikia past Uzbekistan's defence to equalize.

Iran then went ahead after seventy-eight minutes after midfielder Andranik Teymourian provided a through-pass which found Javad Kazemian on the edge of the penalty box. Kazemian struck his shot sweetly to beat the goalkeeper and made the scoreline 2-1.

No further goals came, however Iranian coach Amir Ghalenoei was sent from the sidelines by the referee due to an indiscretion.

The result puts Iran on three points and at the top of Group C, however they trail China, who defeated Malaysia 5-1 a day prior, on goal difference.

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Fox Sports 2, 7:00pm ACST for IRA-UZB and 9:50pm ACST for KOR-KSA. I've got both games recorded on my Foxtel box, and both games are noted. If I can get my scanner working, I'll upload my notes to Imageshack or something.

I included the official match reports as sources becuase I use them to double check scoring times etc. I included the news article because I used it to get the quote about what caused the power outage, and the backup generator fact (neither were reported during the telecast, given they weren't known at that stage).  Daniel  06:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


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IAEA: North Korea to begin shutting down nuclear reactor next week

July 12, 2007 According to the head of the (IAEA), Mohamed ElBaradei, North Korea will begin to shut down their nuclear reactor in  as early as next week, and should be completed with the process in about a month. "[The whole process will be done in] a month or so. A couple of weeks ago we reached an understanding on the modalities on how to work with the DPRK on shutting down the five nuclear facilities at Yongbyon," said ElBaradei to reporters in, South Korea during a press conference.

"I expect that operation to move smoothly," added ElBaradei.

South Korea has shipped approximately 50,000 tons of to North Korea, and the North said that they will begin to shut down the reactor when it arrives. The oil is expected to arrive in North Korea on July 14.

"We should not delude ourselves. It will take time to have a comprehensive solution," added Elbardei.

According to China's Foreign Ministry, six-party talks with North Korea start on July 18. China will be the host for the talks.


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Australian radio personality Stan Zemanek dies aged 60

July 12, 2007

Sydney radio broadcaster Stan Zemanek died early this morning (AEST) due to a brain tumour, aged 60. Zemanek retired from radio in December last year due to ill health and a desire to spend more time with his family.

Born in Sydney on May 29, 1947, he began work as a researcher for Radio C-Fun 141 in Vancouver, Canada. He then returned to Australia and worked on the John Laws program during the 1970s.

Zemanek then returned to North America, where he covered the 1983 America's Cup. Upon returning to Australia again, he spent the 14 years prior to his retirement at Sydney station 2UE, where he was a night-time presenter.

He was often abrupt on the radio, and revelled in being controversial due to his outspoken nature - something which won him a large listening audience. He was also not afraid to confront people who rung in to discuss controversial topics, and was described by The Sydney Morning Herald as a "professional stirrer."

He is survived by his wife Marcella, his two daughters, and his two grandchildren.


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Plane from Los Angeles to London diverted

July 12, 2007 An American Airlines plane, Flight 136 carrying 230 passengers was traveling from Los Angeles, California to London, England when it was diverted to John F. Kennedy International Airport due to a suspicious passenger.

The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) states that "the flight crew alerted security to a suspicious person on board" and the plane was then diverted to JFK Airport while it was still en route to London. The plane made an emergency landing at 4:00 a.m. (eastern time).

The man was traveling alone, and was taken into custody after the plane landed safely. Reports also say that the unnamed individual was riding an employee bus, then boarded the plane, but does not have proper identification which says he works for the airline.

"It may very well turn out that this is nothing more than a misunderstanding with an employee who used an employee bus to get on a plane for a private flight," said Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff.

The man boarded the plane without proceeding through security screenings, but Chertoff states that the Middle Eastern man had purchased a round trip ticket for the flight.

"The individual in question was, in fact, an employee who was traveling in a private capacity," added Chertoff.

Andrea McCauley, a spokeswoman for the TSA says the flight has been canceled, and all passengers were being checked, along with the plane, but authorities did not find anything suspicious.

Passengers were told that the plane had run out of fuel and are being reassigned to different flights.


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I am a journalist from Italy. I am editor-in-chief of gay monthly "Pride" and I usually conrtibute to Commons. If you want to contact me, I'd rather like the page on Commons (commons:User talk:G.dallorto) to be used, since I check it daily. Thank you. --G.dallorto 11:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

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Comments:Pakistani army storms Red Mosque; Ghazi is killed

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Tour de France: Thor Hushovd wins stage 4

July 12, 2007 Norwegian cyclist Thor Hushovd sprinted his way to a stage four victory in the 2007 Tour de France on Wednesday.

Fabian Cancellara of Switzerland maintained the overall lead, while Hushovd moved into second place, 29 seconds behind Cancellara.

Cancellara is not confident of keeping the yellow jersey. "When I get into the mountains, it's sure that it's finished," Cancellara said.

Danish mountain specialist, and "King of the Mountains" for 2005 and 2006, Michael Rasmussen agrees that the Alps will be a turning point in the race.

"We'll definitely get some answers on those days," Rasmussen said. "Already on the Colombiere [La Colombiere Pass], there will be guys from the general classification maybe even dropping or being in trouble."

French mountain specialist Remy Di Gregorio withdrew from the Tour after fracturing his elbow during stage 4.


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if someone knows how to but a border on the tables, I think that would make it look better, thanks. --SVTCobra 16:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
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Tour de France: Filippo Pozzato wins stage 5

July 12, 2007 Italian rider Filippo Pozzato has won stage 5.

Fabian Cancellara of Switzerland kept the overall lead, again.

The 182.5 km fifth stage from Chablis to Autun featured eight climbs, including one Category 2 climb. Many of the sprinters lost contact with the peleton, but all of the major contenders finished together, apart from Alexandre Vinokourov. Vinokourov crashed before the final climb, and ended up losing more than a minute to the rest of the field.

A tailbone injury may force Andreas Klöden, who is second in the overall standings, to withdraw from the Tour. Teammates Vinokourov and Klöden were both taken to the hospital.


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Talk:Calls for corporate tax reform in Australia goes unheeded

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Talk:Rescued Australian miners sign multi-million dollar media deal

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Talk:China enters UN human rights council

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Talk:Australian "3 CDMA" customers have 90 days to move to 3G

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Talk:Sudan reports first bird flu case

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Two British girls arrested for smuggling in Ghana

July 12, 2007 Two 16-year-old British girls were arrested in Accra, Ghana earlier this month for apparently attempting to smuggle £300,000 worth of cocaine in laptop bags.

Yasemin Vatansever, of Cypriot descent and Yatunde Diya of Nigerian descent were arrested as they attempted to board a British Airways flight from the Kotoka International Airport on July 2, 2007. The arrest was by the Ghanaian Narcotic Control Board. They were alleged to be carrying 6.5 kg of drugs. They are currently in Ghana police custody and have been visited by British High Commission staff.

The girls who are both students from Islington, north London, had left home after informing their families they were making a school trip to France. They are expected to be charged with "possessing narcotic drugs and attempting to export drugs", for which they could be jailed for up to ten years if found guilty.

The arrest is part of the Operation Westbridge project set up in November 2006 as a collaboration between the Ghanaian Narcotic Control Board and HM Revenue and Customs of the UK. It is to curb the influx of drugs into Europe and the UK through West Africa which is now being used as a transit point from South America. The project involves the provision of technical and operational expertise to the Ghanaian teams and training in the use of specialist scanning equipment. Ghana is the first country in Africa to introduce such equipment.


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European football: Benayoun, Babel move to Liverpool

July 12, 2007 have completed the signings of midfielder  and  forward. The combined fee is approximately €24.5 million.

These transfers raise the total to €47 million that Liverpool has spent on transfer fees this off season. Other acquisitions include and.

Ajax rejected the original offer of €14.7 million for Babel, who came out of Ajax' world famous youth system. Liverpool raised the offer to about €17 million, which Ajax accepted as the transfer fee.

Liverpool has been after Benayoun for a while. They acquired him from West Ham for a fee of about €7.5 million.

Benayoun signed a contract that runs until June 2011. Liverpool coach has been watching Benayoun since his days at  in.

Benitez went on to say "It's clear he's done this very well at West Ham. Liverpool fans will remember how he played in the (2006) FA Cup final against us when he was outstanding. We thought then this was a player who is capable of stepping up to a higher level."

Babel will sign a 5-year contract on Friday after passing a medical. He admitted that he was easily convinced that Liverpool was the right club for him after listening to what they had to say.


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Comments:Former US First Lady, Lady Bird Johnson dead at 94

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Comments:Study links breast cancer to high meat consumption

The news articles linked to imply that the high-meat diet was a "Western" diet, but the diet according to this article included organ meats, which are very uncommon in the US at least. It's not entirely accurate to call it a Western diet.--76.182.88.254 18:58, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


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Illinois man named person of interest in wife's disappearance

July 12, 2007 In a press conference today, Donald Bennett, chief of police in Plainfield, Illinois, named Craig Stebic as a "person of interest" in the investigation of his wife Lisa Stebic's disappearance.

Stebic did not allow police access to the couple's children, a 10-year old and a 12-year old, which police say has hampered the investigation.

There has been no activity on Lisa's credit cards, cell phone, or checking accounts. Investigators are focusing on the chance Lisa may be a victim of foul play. Lisa and Craig were in the middle of a divorce when she went missing on April 30, 2007.

Chief Bennett said that Craig Stebic has been of "minimal assistance to detectives and refused to participate in searches." This was a contributing factor in naming him a "person of interest."


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US stocks surge, Dow Jones index reaches record

July 12, 2007 The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed today at a new record high of 13,861.73 as United States stock markets rose sharply. This is the first time the Dow got above 13,700. Today's 2.1% rally is the index' largest single-day percentage gain in nearly four years.

Analysts cite earnings reports that exceeded forecasts as a catalyst for the buying spree. Most notably, Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the world's largest private employer and retailer, which reported that same-store sales increased by 2.4%.

"Consumer are still spending so that was something for people to hang their hats on," said Hugh Moore of Guerite Advisors, when explaining the rally.

Another contributing factor is being reported to be the announced acquisition of Canadian aluminum company Alcan Inc. for US$38.1 billion by multinational mining company Rio Tinto Group. This led to speculation, it is said, that Alcoa Inc., the leading aluminum producer in the US, may soon be the target of a take-over.

Other benchmark indices also posted major gains today. The S&P 500 Index climbed 28.94 to 1,547.70, also a record high. The Nasdaq Composite Index rose 49.94 to close at 2,701.73, the highest since March of 2001.