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European court upholds asset freeze in terrorist case

October 4, 2005

On September 21st, the Court of First Instance of the Court of Justice of the European Communities ruled that decisions of the United Nations Security Council take precedence over national constitutions, European law and even the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms (ECHR). Observers claim that this ruling undermines the rule of law and the principles of the constitutional state.

In their verdict in the case of Ahmed Ali Yusuf, a Swede of Arab origin whose funds had been frozen in November 2001 by the European authorities after a Sanctions Committee of the UN Security Council had put him on a list of alleged terrorists, the five judges state that:  “the right of access to the courts, a principle recognised by both Article 8 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and Article 14 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on 16 December 1966, is not absolute.”

The Court holds that even organisations (like the European Union) that are not members of the United Nations are bound by decisions of the UN Security Council.

The lawyer of the convicted:

"[The verdict] is completely unacceptable [and] raises questions about the EU’s position as regards the rule of law.”"

Ahmed Ali Yusuf says he will appeal to the European Court of Justice.


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Talk:U.S. house majority leader DeLay indicted, steps down temporarily

Regarding Ronnie Earle
I have removed most of the stuff on the prosector because I believe they are POV:
 * 1) That guy is a prosector. His job is to prosecute people. We don't have to point out every occasion where he did his job.
 * 2) He prosecuted far more high ranking Democrats than Republicans (12:3)
 * 3) Therefore I believe that picking out just one case was done to discredit this guy's honesty.

--Deprifry | +T+ 12:09, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

There should be something in here about him trying 5 times unsuccessfully to indict Delay, as well as his dropping his indictments as soon as those he indicts contribute to his pet causes. That might be germane to the article.--66.177.127.7 02:33, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

House majority leader?
I didn't think there was any such title. Why not call him the Speaker of the House, which is the only title I've ever been taught. The only majority leader I've ever been taught about would be the Senate Majority Leader. D. F. Schmidt 12:18, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Speaker of the House is a different post, currently held by Dennis Hastert. DeLay is (or was) in fact Majority Leader of the United States House of Representatives --Deprifry | +T+ 12:22, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Oh yes, there is such a title. In fact, Mr. DeLay was House Majority Whip before he became House Majority Leader. Please see House Majority Whip and House Majority Leader.

swamp stink...
Thanks Wikinews, know I know more than I wanna know about this Texan mess. -68.232.153.54 13:39, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Questions about one sentence
Now, I'm not going to get into a edit war over this like the fella who posted it did over at Wikipedia but somehow I don't understand the purpose of this sentence:

Travis County contains the state capital of Austin and is widely known to be a liberal county in a conservative state, as indicated by recent presidential elections.

"Widely known" by whom? And how does voting for the Democratic party turn a county into a "liberal" one? I guess by that definition a county that votes 51% Democratic and 49 % Republican is "liberal" while one where the Republicans get 51% and the Democrats 49% is "conservative". --Deprifry | +T+ 15:42, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Apparently in the US, Liberal is the same as Democrat. I always though there were four quadrents on the political compass. Guess not. What does that make people who vote for Nader? --Wolfrider 03:43, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Makes them nearly the same type as those who voted for Ross Perot, also votes (sad). -Edbrown05 02:47, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

 * The article is about Mr. DeLay's indictment on felony charge(s) of violating Texas state election law. With respect for that issue alone, political parties are not germane. Grand Juries are non partisan. They are the ones whom decide whether there exists sufficient evidence to warrant an arrest.

 * The statement was partisan, but it should be noted that Ronny Earle has stated publicly at a Democratic Fundraiser that he was going to get Delay, and that if not DeLay, then some other bully. --66.177.127.7 02:33, 3 October 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:European court upholds asset freeze in terrorist case

This is the first article I ever read on Wikinews. It's also the last one.

Good title, but its not entirely acurate. We should change it to "European court undermines rule of law", as abolishes is a bit strong. You could alternatively place "abolishes rule of law" in quotation marks. The phrase "undermines rule of law" is IMHO objective, fo the trivial reason that the UN Security Council simply does not make laws, so it does not require quotation marks. What do people think abolishes with quotes vs. undermines without quotes? - Nyarlathotep 12:42, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

I agree ; undermines without quotes is suiting better, to me. (Comments by 193.52.221.27)

 * "Abolishes rule of law" seems sensationalistic to me and is certainly not factual. "Undermines rule of law" is also not NPOV in my view since the EU certainly doesn't think so. Additionally, the article does not mention a single time what the case was about, the freezing of funds. Someone who does not read the sources might think this is about serious human rights violations like imprisonment or something. But the judgment is certainly troubling IMHO. --Deprifry | +T+ 12:54, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, it should be mentioned that its about its about freezing of funds, as I did not know that myself. I agree that lack of it is POV and the article should not side with the defendant, as it mildly does now.  Still, such rulings really do "undermine the rule of law", as they tend to be applied in some anti-humanitarian way later, at least in the U.S.  It would be best to have a quote from a real humanitarian organization which feels worried by the ruling.  European court "[undermines] rule of law" is perhaps the most accurate form of the exciting title, as the lawyer did not use the word undermines per se, but I think we can drop the brackets and keep the quotes. - Nyarlathotep 13:14, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

At the very least I'm going to clean up some of the capitalization... RB McLeroy 13:32, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * OK, ended up making more changes. But factually it should be cleaner, and added a bit about the subject of the case. Agree that the title should change but I'll leave that to the philosophers. RB McLeroy 13:55, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

This article is, excuse me, too deficient to be published. Submarine 14:03, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) The title is highly POV and sensationalistic. Wikinews doesn't do hyperbole
 * 2) The article has poor typography and is poorly wikified.
 * 3) There is no decent legal analysis. There are 349 articles in the justification of the judgment, yet only a few sentences are extracted out of context.
 * 4) Since China is a member of the UN, this verdict implies that decisions of the Politburo of the Chinese Communist Party can gain precedence over the European Human Rights Convention. is blatant sensationalism, in addition to being inaccurate.

 * Submarine, I definitely agree on number 4 - while you can now argue that Security Council members (esp. those with veto power) could, via this decision, exert an abnormal influence on the European Community, that's much more appropriate as commentary than fact. RB McLeroy 14:10, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not sure why it was still in publish mode, I moved it back to develop. I though the title was fun, but I don't have strong opinions anymore, althgouh it would be nice to avoid a million renames. :) - Nyarlathotep 14:16, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Couldn't it also be argued that this change strengthens the rule of International law, which the UN Security Council is, in theory at least, supposed to oversee (that was what all the wrangling over the Iraq resolution was, in part, about, back in 2003)? Isn't this more a story about potential clashes between national and international law? The line about China is largely nonsense, because the UNSC works by consensus. No individual member can impose stuff unilaterally.

80.43.14.68 15:37, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Well, AFAIK, since creation of the United Nations, the General Assembly was supposed to be a body with some level of international legitimacy, while the Security Council (UNSC) was clearly a might is right body, which was intended to have much less power than the General Assembly. As time went on, the mainstream media on both sides of the cold war, naturally rather strongly were POVed in favour of (respectively) France, UK, USA, the Soviet Union and PRChina, and the UNSC de facto became more powerful because people thought it was more powerful, and, as well, it wanted the power. In any case, it's hard to imagine in what sense the UNSC today has any moral legitimacy apart from might is right - whereas the fundamental basis of most legal systems (derived from Roman law, anyway), is supposed to be that might is not necessarily right. IANAL, but IMHO, independently of whether or not the UNSC has any formal legal rights, it certainly lacks in political legitimacy. But i would have to dig up some URLs (with POVs by notable people, not by me ;) and even then, i'm not sure whether it would be relevant... Try United Nations Security Council if someone has the time... /me = sleep. Boud 23:25, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

 * The U.N. is a form for nations to work out their diffrences, not a legislative body. Even for fully democratic nations, the U.N. representitive only represents those minorities with sufficent money and power to grab 51% of the vote.  So we must view "might is right" as the source of U.N. legitimacy, as otherwise it fails to do its job of preventing wars.  You can talk about expanding U.N. military power, but I feel this is a very bad idea, as ALL human social institutions eventually scum to manipulation by powerful minorities who wish to guard their power.  So, in the long run, world government has a high risk of slowing technological and social progress, as do all other "harmonization" treaties, especially those connected with intellectual property.  Humanity should revel in its difffrences, legal and otherwise.  If hypothetically China wanted to make patents last two years, I say good for them see how it goes. - Nyarlathotep 11:46, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Sure, i agree with most of that. BTW, i wasn't trying to suggest expanding UN military power, even if it were controlled by the General Assembly instead of the Security Council. Unfortunately, it seems that Amnesty International has now dropped its neither for nor against war stance (and the local Polish section of Amnesty International is paranoid about keeping this secret!), and now may oppose a war but also may recommend that war be used if necessary to protect human rights. i guess whether or not this is a good thing depends on how much influence the Amnesty International Executive Committee will accept from ordinary, well-informed members compared to how much it will be under pressure from government/corporate press releases and mainstream media campaigns. Boud 10:11, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure this case has anything to do with international law per se. The U.N. Security Council made a list of terrorist supporters, which the E.U. said it would enforce. However, this violates the E.U. charter as E.U. law cannot lead to disciplinary actions against single individuals. So it looks like an issue of state sovereignty vs. E.U. power. My guess is the court sided with the E.U. because his assets have been frozen not taken, a subtle point may worry rich E.U. citizens, but not most. I expect they will need to try him in Sweden to confiscate his assets. - Nyarlathotep 11:46, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Article title
How about "European court recognises limits on state sovereignty"? - Borofkin 02:44, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Or "European court upholds asset freeze in terrorist case" or "European court upholds U.N. terrorist asset freeze over state sovereignty" with an explination that E.U. law may not punish individuals, but may be doing so here. - N

I like the title "European Court Ruling Challenges Rule of Law"

Title npoved
Seems ok now. If anyone wishes to put the tag back, go ahead, but to me it looks publishable now. Neutralizer 21:05, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I have to admit, I don't like the way the court phrased their ruling. I would have prefered if they had affirmed national sovereignty over the U.N. & E.U., but given the E.U. temporary power, which is all that was required. We would probably all be better off if the court eventually unfroze this guys assets due to a poor ruling in this court.. even if he is an (innherently ineffective) terrorist. - Nyarlathotep 21:27, 4 October 2005 (UTC)


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Arctic ice cap shrank sharply this summer

September 29, 2005

The Arctic Ice Cap, which floats on the Arctic Ocean, shrank this summer to what experts believe to be its smallest size in a century. Experts in climate modeling feel this is most likely a consequence of greenhouse gas emissions and will profoundly transform the Arctic later this century.

Dr. Ted Scambos and Dr. Mark Serreze, of the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado said the change is becoming self-sustaining due to positive feedback effects. Dr. Serreze, said "With all that dark open water, you start to see an increase in Arctic Ocean heat storage. Come autumn and winter that makes it a lot harder to grow ice, and the next spring you're left with less and thinner ice. And it's easier to lose even more the next year."

Dr. Scambos said "The consecutive record-low extents make it pretty certain a long-term decline is underway."

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Would like to add the category to a number of arctic related news articles to begin a wikinews Arctic portal to complement and support the Wikipedia Arctic portal and wikiproject. Kind Regards [[User:SriMesh|SriMesh]] | [[User talk:SriMesh|<small>talk</small>]] (talk) 01:30, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


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User:Universalblogger/One new idea that could kill google

September 28, 2005 editorial

Search engines don’t have any competition. Traditional media like newspapers and television reduce their ad rates to compete with their competitor newspapers and televisions. And as a result, their margins are always around the standard 10% mark. But, in the case of search advertising, advertisers bid for ads. The business model is different. Methods for pricing of ads are different. Google’s profit margins in their web search engine excluding other new services may be as high as 50%. But, Google need not reduce their ad rates. Advertisers will continue to pay the current ad rates even if their Adwords program returns a profit margin of 80%. Because of this kind of business model, the one who benefits the most is the website where the ads are placed. Search engines are the only winners. But, something can be done here. We need a new model or system where search engines pay a part (a certain percent) of their revenue back to their advertisers. For example, a search engine, if it has a net profit margin of 40%, can give assurance that they will return 20% of the money paid by the advertisers back to them. That is, advertisers can bid as usual, but all advertisers should get a fixed percent of the amount paid to search engines back from the search engines. This give back can be fixed monthly or fixed dynamically, or, there are many options. If this is done, the process of bidding will happen as usual and at the same time, the advertisers will see some competition. As it is a well known fact that the profit margins of search engines are only going to rise in the future, this will help advertisers a lot. And, maybe, we may see the profit margins of search engines decline if such a system is introduced. Are any of the search engines interested in doing this?


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 * 2) Big oil issues
 * 3) Racist republicans
 * 4) U.S. global IP plan
 * 5) Death of Constance Baker Motley
 * 6) Paxil
 * 7) $100 Laptop
 * 8) Audit of Whitehouse PR also mifi
 * 9) evangelism
 * 10) War on Iran
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Talk:Microsoft invested 4 billion USD into Xbox division

omg! the talk page has NOTHING! feel the power of the almight discussion. seriously people, if you are going to say something is disputable, say why at the least.
 * What's wrong with the news story?

 * I have no idea, you'd have to dig through the history of the article to see what - if any - tag was applied to it at the time the comment you responded to was made. That's why it is a good idea to ~ sign comments, even if you haven't created an account. Brian McNeil / talk 14:38, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Page move?
Would anyone object to changing the page title from Microsoft faces massive losses with XBox to Microsoft XBox Division Shows $4B Loss or something? Since it requires a pagemove I don't want to casually do it without checking consensus. --Syrthiss 13:20, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I think has nothing wrong with massive losses. It's a financial term. to describe when a division experiments great amount of loss (4 billion isn't?) compared with other divisions. --Brazil4Linux 14:44, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Brazil4Linux is a Microsoft/American hater, making this article biased and POV
Check this out

And Xbox Fanboys until today are finding explanations why the console was a complete failure in Japan.. USA is a really nation that need to be hated in the rest of the world. And Microsoft also. --Brazil4Linux 00:56, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

The problem with these guys is envies and the inferiority complex. Since PlayStation Supremacy kills SEGA loser and humiliated Microsoft with Xbox lot of Fanboys are hating Sony. I have penalty of them, these nerd kidults with 20+ priosioners of videogames companies, complete losers in real life using video games industry to justify their suck life. 100 milion units was sufficient to take the sleep of these losers. Doom127 and GoldDragon, probably the next 10 generations of your families isn't sufficient to make what Kutaragi makes. American idiot losers. --GroundZero 01:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Insulting people will not help your arguments. Honestly, this article would be MUCH better if Brazil4Linux (and his avatars) left it alone. If there is any "POV-pushing" like you have said, you should let other people deal with it because you obviously cannot make impartial decisions regarding this matter. You are just as bad-if not worse-at pushing your POV than GoldDragon or Doom127 has been in my opinion. Do yourself a favor and take a break from this crusade you are on. Come back in a few weeks and take it easy with your edits. People will stop taking you seriously unless you learn some moderation. (Also, I'm not trying to insult you, but your grasp of the english language is pretty bad. It would be in the best interests of readability for you to post any proposed changes you want to make on the talk pages of articles and ask for help in implementing them. It is really a pain in the ass to have to go through an article and clean up bad english. This is really more of a problem with Brazil4Linux, but something tells me he will get this message as well.) PaulC/T+ 05:19, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Oddie/Quackshot/GroundZero are all now blocked users. Oddie/Quackshot as socks, GroundZero for being too close to the username of admin Ground Zero. Please let me know if Brazil4Linux keeps this vandalism/pov pushing up and I will extend his block. ALKIVAR™ 08:24, 23 December 2005 (UTC)


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US Treasury Department unveils new ten-dollar bill

September 29, 2005 A new redesigned US $10 bill was introduced at a ceremony yesterday on Ellis Island. The new bill adds three new background colors; red, yellow and orange. It continues to feature, the first. The $10 bill is the third US bill to switch from the traditional green. The $20 and $50 bills were redesigned to feature color within the past two years.

The improvements in digital technology have made it much easier for counterfeiters. "Ten years ago, 1 percent of (counterfeit) bills were produced on digital equipment. These days, 56 percent are produced on digital equipment, and the technology is more accessible to the general population," said Eric Zahren, spokesman for the.

According to the, to be able to keep ahead of counterfeiters currency will need to continue to be updated every seven to ten years. The $10 bill was last redesigned in 2000. "The intention was not to create a counterfeit-proof note—which is basically impossible—but one that's harder to duplicate and easier to authenticate," said Zahren. This new bill includes many new and enhanced security features such as color-shifting ink, a watermark, microprinting and a security thread

Dawn Haley of the said in a statement "The new $10 note design continues the U.S. Government's efforts to make our currency safer, smarter, and more secure." The new $10 bill is expected to go into circulation in early 2006.


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John Roberts sworn in as Chief Justice of the United States

September 29, 2005 John G. Roberts Jr. was sworn in as the 17th Chief Justice of the United States on Thursday, September 29, 2005, hours after being confirmed by the United States Senate by a 78-22 vote. The oath of office was administered by Justice John Paul Stevens, who has served as acting chief justice since the death of William Rehnquist.

President George Bush commented "The Senate has confirmed a man with an astute mind and kind heart. All Americans can be confident that the 17th chief justice of the United States will be prudent in exercising judicial power, firm in defending judicial independence and above all a faithful guardian of the Constitution."

Roberts gained support from all Republicans and half the Democrats in the Senate.

Now President Bush can turn his attention to the next nominee to replace Sandra Day O'Connor, the position Roberts was slated originally to fill. Many experts say this nomination will be a much more contentious once compared to Robert's. O'Connor tended to be the key vote when it came to Woman's Rights, Affirmative Action and abortion.

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Bush nominates Harriet Ellan Miers for U.S. Supreme Court

October 3, 2005 President George W. Bush today nominated to replace Sandra Day O'Connor as Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, who announced her retirement intentions July 1, 2005.

Bush originally nominated John G. Roberts, Jr. to replace O'Connor, but following the death of Chief Justice, Roberts was renominated and confirmed as.

Bush's nomination was not totally unexpected because senators from both political parties reportedly suggested her as a potential nominee, and because she had lead Bush's search team for his second nominee. That mirrors Dick Cheney's selection as Bush's Vice Presidential candidate in 2000 after Cheney led the search team for that post.

Miers attended. She earned a bachelor's degree in mathematics, and a law degree. She was in private law practice from 1972 to 1999, served one term as a member of the Dallas City Council, and as Chair of the Texas Lottery Commission. Since Bush's 2000 election she served in a variety of roles in his administration, and is currently White House Counsel.

Some critics have opposed Miers' nomination, noting that she has never served as a jurist or argued a case before the Supreme Court. The White House in response noted that neither the late judge William Rehnquist nor 35 other past Supreme Court nominees had judicial experience before being named to the Court. It also noted that 10 of the last 34 justices appointed since 1933 were appointed directly from positions within the respective sitting presidents' administrations.

Senate hearings on the nomination are been scheduled for Thursday, Oct. 6, 2005 at 2:30pm

Chief Justice Roberts was confirmed with 78 to 22 favorable vote. In recent decades confirmation hearings have been more contentious because politicians have attempted to maintain a perception of balance on the court. While Associate Justice was confirmed easily in 1993 following a 96 to 3 vote, Justice Clarence Thomas was confirmed by a 52 to 48 vote — largely along party lines.

The website justicemiers.com, which is running banner ads supporting the nominee, was registered September 29th, 2005 to Progress for America. The registration was made several days before the nomination was announced. According to SourceWatch, Progress for America is a non-profit organization closely associated with the Bush administration.


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September 2005
And yet it's still ugly. Seriously, how about trying for some nice bright colours... ~The bellman | Smile 04:48, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * lol, my thougts exactly, the american money is so boring. Boneyard 12:03, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Funny, my first thought was and the government continues its quest to make my money look more like something from Monopoly. Clearly we are seperated by denominational differences. >_> --Deridolus 03:50, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Category and link
edit protected Please add this article to Category:United States dollar and localize a link of the same or similar name. Thank you. Green Giant (talk) 00:43, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 19:45, 10 November 2015 (UTC)


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MIT's "$100 laptop" to be unveiled in November

September 28, 2005

The MIT Emerging Technologies Conference started its first day with a keynote by the Media Lab's Nicholas Negroponte, who presented the accelerating development of their $100 laptop initiative. This initiative aims to mass produce robust laptops at a cost of $100 apiece for use throughout the third world.

In November, at the second World Summit on the Information Society gathering in Tunis, the Media Lab will showcase working prototypes of the laptop. Five to fifteen million "beta" units are expected to be produced within a year, and deployed in five countries. Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney has suggested distributing the laptop to half a million students across his state. They hope to produce 150 million units by the second year, at even lower costs. Negroponte noted that "$100 is still too expensive.”

The laptops will come with free software and content. Negroponte highlighted Wikipedia as an ideal content source for the initiative, calling it "by far the best encyclopedia on the planet." He later referred to the $100 laptop initiative as "the Wikipedia equivalent" of laptop design.

The Media Lab has previously provided laptops to groups of children in Senegal and Costa Rica. At the World Economic Forum earlier this year, Negroponte announced he was founding the One Laptop Per Child non-profit to push development of the notebook. Since then, the project has developed quickly, forming partnerships with organizations including Google, News Corp, Red Hat, and Advanced Micro Devices.


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I'm at the TRETC conference; supplementing information from the presentation with older details from previous reports. Sj 28 September 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:Bush nominates Harriet Ellan Miers for U.S. Supreme Court

Oh sheesh.

We need some subdivision of the developing stories, peoplewill be clicking this thinking it has already happened.

 * Please sign your comments (using --~ ). This "story" is properly tagged with the tag and appears in a seperate area of the workspace. I would not be opposed to moving the listing of prepared stories to a seperate page under the Wikinews namespace -- there is already Story preparation page, but those stories appear to be of a more distant nature. --Chiacomo  (talk) 22:07, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I was just thinking of having two boxes, one for stuff which could theoretically be published now, and another for other things like evergreen. - Nyarlathotep 14:29, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Amazingly, this prepared story thing worked just as intended for this article. Outline, background, etc. develops into a full story pretty quickly. Wikinews rocks. --Chiacomo (talk) 22:39, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

U.S. President Bush...
Who in their right mind the world over, being at least nominally or minimally aware, does NOT know that "Bush" is the President of the United States of America? Thus, it is unnecessary to write "U.S. President Bush" on ANY headlines.

Surely Iraqis, Israelis, Chinese, English, Irish, Sudanese, Chilean, Afghani, Australian, Vietnamese, Canadian, Mexican, Grecian, Italian, Namibian, Georgian, Russian, French, German, Swiss, Saudis, Bosnians, Cubans, Costa Ricans, Czechans, Egyptians, El Salvadorans, Spanish, Indians, Pakistanis, Guatemalans, Haitians, Indonesians, Icelanders, Kuwaitis, Japanese, Jordanians, Peruvian, Koreans, Nepalese, Serbians, Montenegrans, Slovakians, Slovenians, Swedes, Thais, Turks and others know who "Bush" is!

Therefore, writing "U.S. President Bush" is unecessary. "Bush" will suffice.

Roberts?
Are these Miers articles (I think there might be two of them) really worth putting in the Roberts category? Not a rhetorical question. When I did my scan for Roberts articles, I figured not, on the grounds Roberts is only being peripherally mentioned; he doesn't participate in the news here. Mentioning that some news event happened previously seems just background, like mentioning that something happened in a city on the Atlantic coast doesn't warrant putting the article in Category:Atlantic Ocean.

As an aid to, for wherever it leads: The principle I hope to follow (suggested by a long-ago proposal) is that since the purpose of a category is to aid someone researching our archives, the question to ask when deciding whether to categorize an article is, if you were researching the topic of that category in our archives, would you want that article to be one of those provided to you on the search? I'm kind of thinking not, here. But. Your thoughts? --Pi zero (talk) 05:22, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

 * I haven't seen the other Miers article, but in this one he is mentioned prominently in the second paragraph. Rehnquist's death and Robert's changed nomination made the Miers nomination possible. He seems pretty pivotal here. --SVTCobra 05:30, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't see Roberts at all in Harriet Miers withdraws from Supreme Court nomination. Cheers, --SVTCobra 05:32, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * What about the inline links to external. They bother me, but I guess we should preserve the archive. --SVTCobra 05:34, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Re external links, I've been known occasionally to fix some of those in the archive, shifting them down to an External links section; but even just things in the archive that are completely uncontroversial add up to a vast pile of work, which one has to be willing to repeatedly leave-for-later when one goes to the archive to do something else. Although this mentioned Roberts in the second paragraph, it's still only a passive mention: he doesn't do anything in the news described by this article. --Pi zero (talk) 12:11, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Btw, once or twice I've even received criticism for some of these sorts of formatting fixes in the archives, on the grounds that it's kind of nice to be able to look in the early archives and say "look how much we've improved". --Pi zero (talk) 12:12, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * For my part, I would add this to a category for Sandra Day O'Connor if we had one, because this is part of the search for her replacement, which I would think would be of interest to someone researching O'Connor in the archive. --Pi zero (talk) 12:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hm... okay, now that we actually do have a category for Sandra Day O'Connor, I find myself agreeing that Roberts is involved here, in that his nomination is causally involved in the news activity of this article. --Pi zero (talk) 21:35, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, if it is for research, this is probably useful on how Roberts went from nominated for associate to chief justice (although I haven't reviewed all the articles on him). I did get your point, though, which is why I reverted Thomas from the categories. Cheers, --SVTCobra 21:41, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


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Belgium indicts former Chad dictator accused of humanitarian crimes

September 30, 2005 Human Rights groups have welcomed the indictment in Belgium of Hissène Habré, former dictator of Chad. Habré, described by the organisation Human Rights Watch as "the African Pinochet", ruled Chad from 1982 to 1990. He now stands accused of "crimes against humanity" over a series of abuses allegedly committed during his tenure.

A 1992 "Truth Commission" in Chad heard evidence of systematic torture by Habré's government, and accused the regime of more than 40,000 killings. But the government of Chad, which until very recently, according to Human Rights Watch, included many of Habré's former associates, has never made any attempt to prosecute him.

Habré, who currently lives in Senegal, was arrested by the authorities there in 2000, charged with torture and crimes against humanity. But the following year the Senegalese high court ruled that Habré could not be prosecuted for crimes committed in another country.

Every state has the right under international law, to prosecute the alleged perpetrators of war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity, wherever those crimes were committed.

In practice, Belgium is one of the few countries in the world to have enacted legislation enabling their domestic courts to exercise this right.

In June 2001, four Rwandans were convicted by a Belgian court, under the country's "universal jurisdiction" law, of participating in the 1994 genocide (recently portrayed in the film "Hotel Rwanda").

Belgium recently amended the law to reduce its scope, after a series of highly-controversial attempts to bring cases against serving world leaders, including the Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. But a number of cases that had already begun were allowed to continue, including the case against Habré.

The government of Senegal recently detained Habré to prevent him from fleeing, following pressure from the United Nations. Belgium has now issued an extradition request.


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Some NPOV issues with this story.

 * The terms "hail" or "praise" should be avoided at any cost.

 * "In theory" is irrelevant, as many countries don't follow the International Law.

 * "Scope of..." sounds like it is making a statement.

Just a few minor fixes, leave a note on my talk page when these have been fixed. --Mrmiscellanious 10:42, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikinews is a collaborative project so please feel free to make any changes that you feel are needed.

I don't personally have any problem with "hail" or "praise", so long as it's clear that we're merely stating that rights groups are hailing/praising, rather than doing the hailing or praising ourselves! But by all means change the title if you would like to.

The use of "in theory"/"in practice" is a stylistic contrast but I think it helps to spell out the legal situation clearly - eg. in theory any state can do the universal jurisdiction thang, in practice very few do.

Here's what I meant by the "scope" issue: For a limited time (eg. during the time the case against Habré was originally brought), Belgian law allowed anyone in the world to initiate a case against any individual they believed responsible for war crimes/genocide/crimes against humanity (there's almost certainly an outline of the specific legal meanings of these terms on wikipedia), regardless of when or where those alleged crimes had taken place. Neither did the alleged perpetrator need to be in Belgium. This quickly led to a deluge of attempted cases, some of which were clearly frivolous or politically motivated etc. A great deal of controversy was generated and the system, which had originally been thought of up to help bring justice for extreme crimes like the Rwandan genocide (many genocidaires had fled to Belgium claiming to be refugees) quickly became unmanageable. So the law was amended to reduce its scope. From now on there had to be some kind of "Belgian connection" ie. a Belgian citizen had to have been directly affected and/or the alleged perpetrator has to be on Belgian territory for the charges to proceed. But they let the Habré case continue, because it had been initiated before the scope amendments were made. I'll edit the last paragraph to try and make this more explicit.

On a wider level this story strikes me as interesting and important because it raises questions about the nature and applicability of the international rule of law - eg: should there be international intervention when a national government seems unwilling/unable to prosecute someone like Habré? If so, what form should such intervention take? If the UN is unwilling/unable to intervene should other governments step in, or "mind their own business"? Does the Belgian model inevitably lead to a double-standard, and does that matter? It's quite an interesting and wide-ranging debate - see Kissinger in this article:, together with the Amnesty paper I referenced in the piece. Some reference to this wider debate might add an extra dimension to the article if anyone out there has the time and talent to weave it in! Rcameronw 13:16, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

All hail! (addendum)

 * I really don't think we have a "hailing" problem. A quick google search reveals a wealth of mainstream news articles with rights groups hailing all sorts of things, eg. this CNN piece on Pinochet:, and this one from IRIN on honour killings

Rcameronw 13:34, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Yikes how long has that title been there
I'm new to wikinews, but I'm going to figure out how to change the title of that piece right now!


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UN health expert warns Bird Flu could kill 150 million

September 30, 2005

A United Nations health expert who is co-ordinating the response to the recent south-east Asian bird flu outbreak, has warned that the disease could kill 'up to 150 million' people in the near future.

Dr David Nabarro told the BBC that a new outbreak of bird flu was possible, with migratory birds carrying the disease to Africa or the Middle East where the human death toll "could be anything between 5m and 150m".

"The consequences in terms of human life when the pandemic does start are going to be extraordinary and very damaging."

Bird flu — also known as avian influenza — is a type of influenza virulent in birds. It was first identified in Italy in the early 1900s and is now known to exist worldwide. It was not known to affect humans until the first recorded case in Hong Kong in 1997.

Bird flu has spread rapidly through poultry and wild birds in Asia since 2003, killing huge numbers of birds and more than 60 humans.

"It's like a combination of global warming and HIV/Aids 10 times faster than it's running at the moment," Dr Nabarro said.

In contrast to the shock-factor of Dr Nabarro's comments, the U.N. has distanced themselves from his remarks. The World Health Organization's official estimate for the death toll in the event of a mutation of the H5N1 virus is between 2 and 7.4 million. WHO influenza spokesman, Dick Thompson, implied that Dr Nabarro would be taken to task over his remarks, stating, "I don't think you will hear Dr Nabarro say the same sort of thing again."


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U.S. Government ordered to release more images related to Abu Ghraib case

October 5, 2005

Alvin K. Hellerstein, a U.S. federal judge, has ordered the release of additional photos and video relating to the on-going Abu Ghraib Iraqi prison abuse case. The media, consisting of 74 photographs and 3 videos, were ordered for release on September 29, pending a 20 day opportunity for appeal. The American Civil Liberties Union filed a Freedom of Information Act Request in a motion to release the photos.

The Bush administration has claimed that the ordered media might provoke terrorists organizations into harming more American soldiers and citizens abroad. U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein strongly disagreed, saying that suppressing the pictures amounts to submitting to blackmail. In a statement, Hellerstein said: "Our nation [ United States ] does not surrender to blackmail, and fear of blackmail is not a legally sufficient argument to prevent us from performing a statutory command."


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Changed from 50 to 150. How do you change the title?

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Apple agrees to replace iPod nanos with cracked screens

October 1, 2005 Apple Computer has formally acknowledged that the screens on some of its new iPod nano units are prone to scratching and cracking. The company has agreed to replace units with a cracked screen free of charge.

Several customers found that the screens of their brand new iPod nano MP3 players were cracking and scratching easily. According to Tyler Hall the creator of http://www.nanoscratch.com, his iPod nano was scratched within 30 minutes of use in the pocket of his shirt. He posted his concerns to the Apple support forums, but his post was deleted. He created www.nanoscratch.com to allow other users to post comments on the iPod’s “scratchability” and post photos of scratched iPods.

"This is a real but minor issue that involved a vendor quality problem in a small number of units," said Apple spokesperson Tom Neumayr. Apple estimates that these issues affected less then 0.01% of the total iPod Nanos shipped.

In most individual cases Apple has been telling customers that the scratches and cracks were covered under warranty. Standard warranties on most electronic products do not normally cover cosmetic damage such as scratches or accidental damage such as cracks. Users with a cracked screen can now contact Apple for a free replacement.


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Talk:UN health expert warns Bird Flu could kill 150 million

Bird flu epidemic could kill 50 million people:It isn't 150 million people?--a french wikipedian

Too sensationalized
The article content (and formerly the title) are too "sensationalized" -- they make you seem as if the world is screwed. This is definitely against the NPOV policy, so I marked the page. We could make the page more neutral if we put some statements on how the world may not be as screwed, and we could refrain from using direct quotes such as stating how a UN rep said that this is supposed to be global warming + AIDS times 10. We should fix this as soon as possible. —M ESSED R OCKER (talk) 00:35, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Yup, it was "News Of The World" material. :) Hopefully everyone is happier with it now, even if it is waaaaaaaaay off the front page. Brianmc 18:34, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

The warning came from one UN health expert
It's apparent all this statements came from just one person, and that the WHO had in fact "distanced itself from the figure" (BBC). I'm renaming the article to express that only one UN health expert had given this warning. 25 16:48, 20 October 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:Apple agrees to replace iPod nanos with cracked screens

Original reporting
The bit about www.nanoscratch.com was all information that I gathered from their website, so it can be considered original reporting under one of our definitions of OR (information not found in one of the sources, but found elsewhere). --Cspurrier 19:27, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Two Different Issues
I have a feeling that this article is mixing up two different issues about the iPod nano.

One issue is that of the broken screens. There were reports of people getting shipped iPods where the screen was barely visible because there was a large amount of distortion in the actual screen.

The other issue is that of iPods that scratch easily. Minor scratching, more of a cosmetic flaw.

It is the former issue that Apple is talking about resolving, not the latter. -- Macaddct1984 05:03, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes. The article's inaccurate. --Sdfisher 05:37, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I think I fixed it now --Cspurrier 15:43, 2 October 2005 (UTC)


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Just wanted to say thankyou for fixing the html. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:51, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. :) —Pathoschild 14:36, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

 * Merry Christmas or winter holidays to you as well. —Pathoschild 23:29, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

News briefs:January 4, 2007 2
Hey I thank you for your edit on the Newbrief script! The scripts main purpose is to link to articles summerised and provided a reading for listers who may not understand my Australian-American accent. As your edit came sometime after the recording, I reverted the summary to mine, as that is what I spoke. I kept your corrected story title. This being a wiki, it is perfectly acceptable to edit before we start recording, however it is impolite to change the script afterwards. Thanks, and I hope to see more of your edits here on Wikinews! terinjokes | Talk | Come visit the WikiBistro 03:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Hello terinjokes. Sorry about that, I didn't know it had been recorded. :)

 * Shouldn't News briefs be merged with Audio Wikinews/News Briefs? I've only just noticed the Audio Wikinews project, so it wouldn't surprise me if I'm missing the reason they're separate. —Pathoschild 08:35, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

The Goings-on Selection
Welcome to the first edition of this fortnightly Community Newsletter! If you have comments, please voice them. If you no longer wish to receive this newsletter, you can unsubscribe. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 00:30, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Thank you. —Pathoschild 19:56, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for renaming that user :)  Thunderhead  ►  20:01, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

 * You're welcome. :) —Pathoschild 20:10, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

re: Verify your candidate summary
Hello Jason Safoutin. There is a summary of your 2007 board elections candidate platform and answers at s:Wikisource:News/2007-07-01. Because of the great deal of text to read through for all candidates, it is possible that there are errors or omissions in your summary. Please read it and respond at m:user talk:Pathoschild or by email with any corrections or suggestions. If you'd prefer to edit the page yourself, remember that the summaries should be as neutral as possible. Thanks. —Pathoschild 16:09, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Looks good...But should reiterate more on my stance on the image resolution. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 16:23, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Thank you. Could you explain your stance on the image resolution? If I understand correctly, it is "Allow fair use, although free content is preferable." If you can summarize it more accurately, please do so— I unfortunately do not have time right now to research very deeply. :) —Pathoschild 16:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

 * This basically sums it up: Let me just clarify: Not all projects are drastically or in some cases slightly changed by the resolution. It would seem that the resolution favors a few projects over others, (new addition ->) and the resolution did not take into effect it would have of some projects. It should be conformed to fit the needs of each project, it does not. The definition of free was written by a board member, which is writing "free" as he sees it, and is basically his POV of free. (Good summary?) ;) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 16:52, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

 * A little long. :) How about "Allow fair use, and change the licensing policy to fit each project's needs"? Could you specify how it should be changed? —Pathoschild 02:20, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well we are a news site. So it should be changed to take that into consideration for example. And there is not such thing as 100% free images 100% of the time. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:32, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

YouTube user gets instant fame for video defending Britney Spears
Why did you remove a huge amount of content? It's useful background info - now the articles a crap little summary. In cases where the entire thing is trivia, trivia and otherwise useless stuff is important. Matt | userpage|contribs 03:30, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Hello Matt. The story previously contained much unprofessional content (like numerous quoted immature insults) as well as journalistic errors (like the assumption that his fame will last two weeks). It repeatedly used subjective or weasel words such as "many people claiming", "large amounts of media attention", and "major promotion". It twice cited a Google News search result, which is not permanent and will gradually empty as the event falls out of current media attention. It listed minor awards rather than summarizing or explaining them, and made unsubstantiated claims such as that users who achieve brief Internet fame routinely criticize FOX News. After improving these and other problems, we are left with the much more concise and professional story we now have. —Pathoschild 05:08, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

 * This is not a professional news site. -Edbrown05 08:27, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

 * It is not a news site run by experts, but it is one that attempts to conform to the standards of such news sites. We are attempting to create a reputable news source, not a tabloid or editorial magazine. —Pathoschild 18:39, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

 * The google news search results were supposed to be in the external links - my mistake. The awards ARE important. The unsubstantiated claims were after reading other stories - thats OR. I don't think a 6-line story is very professional, and I would definately want the awards back in. Matt | userpage|contribs 20:57, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Google News is not a permanent resource. You can test this by searching it for mention of an older significant news story like Evgeny Adamov's 2006 extradition to Russia; you will find precisely zero results. Having a link to Google News in the external links section, as you can see, would be useless.

 * News story should give the readers the significant facts of the story, regardless of the length required to do so. Trivia should not be included simply because it extends the length of the article, which is a bad thing; readers do not want to spend as much time as possible reading up on it. When writing a story, we should strive to be as concise and precise as possible. If we include mention of the awards, it should be summarised in prose form rather than simply listed with repetition. —Pathoschild 00:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

 * The entire article is trivia - its about a YouTube celebrity no-one will remember in a year or two. In these sorts of articles, a large proportion of the readers are going to want lots of trivia and in-depth information. Matt | userpage|contribs 10:07, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

 * I disagree, but it looks like we're not likely to reach any agreement. Try bringing it up on the talk page or a community discussion page, and see what other established editors think. —Pathoschild 05:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

This editor thinks that you did a butcher job on this article. Links, links mostly disappear in relevance and may have historical value (I'm feeling smelly for even writing that). Take your links and shove them. This is about news. -Edbrown05 06:55, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Let me put it another way. Beating the shit out of an article for links you don't understand is no way to treat an article. -Edbrown05 07:44, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Are you interested in the facts? Then why did you remove them? -Edbrown05 07:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Your attitude here and elsewhere (particularly your vow to "try to fight") is not helpful. Rather than revert-warring with administrators or insulting me, you should rationally consider my and other users' positions and offer your own. Such collaboration has a chance of convincing others, while negative emotional appeal does not.

 * What you may call it a "butcher job" or "beating the shit out of an article", I consider a significant cleanup. I have presented numerous explanations above to support this position; you have provided none to support yours. Broken links have zero historical value, and I'm pretty sure that that I do understand a hyperlink to Google News. I did not 'remove the facts'; I summarized the important facts of the story while removing trivial or counterproductive details like long, inline quotes such as "Omg, you made me cry. :( *points at comments* Those people need to shut up! *hugs you* I feel for you." —Pathoschild 11:53, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Remove the quotes, but the trivia is important. Matt | userpage|contribs 01:23, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I am looking at it from the project-wide standpoint of without any invitation suddenly Oversight appears on the scene here. Suddenly a new proposal Wikinews Foundation appears. Suddenly an attitude of disregard for clearly honest reporting in the form of this YouTube story gets trampled. This kind of creepiness will not earn friends, I assure you. Letting the process of neutrality evolve will. Let that happen. A professional new service wasn't born in a decade, so don't short circuit it (or clip personality, this is not an encyclopedia, and personality does count for something among reporters). -Edbrown05 08:57, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

 * I don't know what "Oversight" you're referring to, and I have nothing to do with the proposed Wikinews Foundation (which is only a tool to get accreditation anyway). The "process of neutrality" does not consist of individual editors owning articles; quite the opposite, it consists of editors with differing opinions working together such that the sum of their biases neutralize the result. In this case, your bias for triviality was neutralized by several other users' biases for professionalism and formal writing.

 * If you think that is not the case, propose re-adding details on the talk page. Revert warring with administrators, as you did when I made my changes, is not very productive. —Pathoschild 16:20, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

You are certainly welcome to come here and rip the guts out of any article you chose. I thought you might simply read it. Editorial control over it is another matter. -Edbrown05 09:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * So you are a control freak, hmmm. -Edbrown05 09:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * WHAT DID YOU CONTROL? Any unbiased reporting, or eliminating reporting itself... because you couldn't find the so-called sources. Go back to, what? you unoriginal self. -10:21, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Edbrown05 Request for ArbCom
I've proposed a request for arbcom relating to the recent situation with Ed. If you take issue with being listed as an involved party, please remove your name from that list. Otherwise, I suppose you'll be expected to make a brief statement on that page. irid t i [mailto:ironiridis@gmail.com e] 07:56, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Thank you for notifying me; I'll watch that page. —Pathoschild 08:23, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Unblock request
Blood Red Sandman has blocked me as an unauthorized global bot, probably because of my occasional Synchbot service. I've added en-Wikinews to the script's skip list; all you had to do was ask! :)

(Tangentially, Synchbot is a semi-automated process, but it isn't a global bot since its edits should not be hidden from overview.) —Pathoschild 00:38, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Just a note to passing people, He's a steward. Sidonuke (talk) 01:04, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Lulz, Pathoschild is a helpful steward who runs that script for the good of the community. Blood, unblock him. --Diego Grez return fire 01:33, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I've lifted the block; I seriously question the "wisdom" of running any bot-type process on an account with such elevated privileges. Regardless, the onus in such cases is to ensure you comply with policy on all projects, or accept such blocks as a risk. --Brian McNeil / talk 06:34, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Could you explain your concern with the bot? It may be something I can address. The bot makes an identical edit to one user's pages across multiple wikis; it requires elevated privileges to edit users' script files at their request. Since 2008, the bot has completed 159 requests by 85 unique users, with only one error which was fixed with a second run. —Pathoschild 12:46, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * If the privileges are required then so be it. With my background in systems analysis, I'd always say an automated process should be trivially distinguishable from a human/interactive one. But, with over 20 years in IT, I'm old-school. I work from a principle of, computers can do what a human does thousands of times a second - including making an error a million times. My first boss in IT would, now, be in his late 70s, a former IBM consultant when I worked with him. A lot of the extreme risk-adverse philosophy he had rubbed off on me. Then again, for the majority of his life you were talking a cost of tens of dollars per line of code, thousands per failed test run. I share his intense dislike for 'seat of the pants' coding and solutions, likely why I did so well getting my British Computer Society qualifications. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:08, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

 * I strongly suspect the bot would receive permission to operate if it were requested. The local policy is as-is so that the community can, if you like, 'inspect' the bot first. I would obviously prefer it if a separate account were created and given the elevated permissions as well, but I daresay in the circumstances an exception is possible. The WN global bot policy is deliberately very restrictive in which ones can operate without local permission; only the simplest bots are allowed, and only if proven. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:33, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

SynchBot
Hello!

Nobody actually bothered to get back to you, and I was looking at bot requests this AM. The consensus (despite the above misunderstanding) is to go ahead and run the bot. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:59, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

 * Thanks. :) — Pathoschild 12:47, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I know how things can be around here, which is usually "Chaotic Fun". Half our contributors - myself included - wouldn't readily recognise the difference between a steward and a croissant. We're constantly beaten with some 'bizarre' AGF stick for being "suspicious journalists", but it goes with the territory.
 * Any issues with the bot, or "suspicious journalists", give me a shout. ;) --Brian McNeil / talk 19:19, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

 * Thanks again. Feel free to post here if there are any questions or issues about the bot. :) — Pathoschild 23:23, 02 June 2013 (UTC)

New RfA - acagastya - LINK
Hi Pathoschild

Please consider commenting.

I pinged you previously, but there was no response. This may be the last notification before the vote is closed.

Also, merry Christmas!

--Gryllida (talk) 19:46, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

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User talk:Afelton~enwikinews

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User talk:Interested~enwikinews

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User talk:Gman~enwikinews

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User talk:DianaPrice

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User talk:Cutter

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User talk:Phr~enwikinews

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Your account will be renamed
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