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User:DragonFire1024/archiveJan-Feb08

RE:Image Language
Yes, you were ;-) Romance languages are all very similar. For future reference, when you see words with tildes on top of them, it's Portuguese, when they have grave or circumflex accents, it's usually French or Italian, and when they have acute accents, it's either one of the above or Spanish. --Boricu  æ ddie  02:03, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * My second guess was Italian. I was in Spanish in HS for a bit, and I saw Amor... and well the rest is history :-) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:04, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Scientology.org is Down
www.scientology.org is down, and lots of blogs are abuzz wondering as to why. Can I write a story on this, if I can only source it to blogs and the fact that the site itself is down and people wondering as to why, or can a story only go up if there is some mention in secondary news sources? Wilhelm 04:14, 20 January 2008 (UTC).
 * I'm going to steal the Dragon's spotlight, and say that it sounds like a very interesting story as long as it isn't all speculation. Source our other story about Tom Cruise's video leak :-) Thunderhead - (talk - email - contributions) 04:16, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I've never written an article not completely sourced to secondary sources before, so I guess I would have to be creative if I were going to write it. Not sure where to get a screenshot from.  www.scientology.org seems to be loading now, just very, very slowly...  How do I "source" the other Wikinews story, isn't that sort of circular sourcing?  Wilhelm 06:07, 20 January 2008 (UTC).

 * How's it looking so far? Wilhelm 07:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC).
 * Can you get a relevant screenshot? Wilhelm 07:21, 20 January 2008 (UTC).
 * None to get really. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 07:27, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, no worries. I added a "QuoteLeft", and with the Scientology navigation box at the right, it looks pretty good.  I just wish more sources would come out somewhere, still looking...  Wilhelm 07:30, 20 January 2008 (UTC).

 * Can you semi-protect the article? Wilhelm 08:28, 20 January 2008 (UTC).

Main Page
OK, how do you get an article on the main page? 75.164.244.2 04:31, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * All articles end up on the main page when published. Users pick and update the lead articles. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 05:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

why was my article rejected?

"Anonymous" article
I agree with you, and made a note about it on the talk page, Talk:"Anonymous" releases statements outlining "War on Scientology". Wilhelm 00:58, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

why was my article denied?

PD articles
I object to your removal of the copy-vio tag from the article Iraq explosion kills 15 and wounds 132. It is clearly stated on Public domain news sources as well as on VOA's own site (on this page) that their material is not Public Domain when it comes from newswires. As that is the case with VOA's Explosion Kills 15, Wounds 132 in Northern Iraq (see bottom of article) this is a copy-vio. --SVTCobra 02:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope what you do is not copy and paste articles "on a daily basis", it is not what I do. Please read the policy on this when you get a chance. Further, I suggest you also read the ongoing current debate in the Water cooler and you can also check the archived discussion on the Water Cooler. If VOA says that the text is copyrighted by someone else, then we cannot copy it. Just because they "rebroadcast" it doesn't make it PD. --SVTCobra 02:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Some information for this report was provided by AFP, AP and Reuters. --B.J. T. Wagner 02:06, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Their text is PD...and that's their text. If you claim that then what we do daily is copyvio. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:18, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

 * Their text is not PD when they are copying from AP or others. If we then copy VOA its a copy of a copy and then we might as well copy from AP directly. --SVTCobra 14:43, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I hope this gets sorted out. --B.J. T. Wagner 02:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem...don't hesitate to work on the article. Your welcome message can help get you started. I hope we didn't spook you :-) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks Jason! :) --72.73.127.244 02:30, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

 * It will, BJT, but I think you'd be better off doing a rewrite from multiple sources, rather than copying VOA. --SVTCobra 02:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Are you calling me a copyviolater? --72.73.127.244 02:55, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Admin action alerts
Curious: At what point does this stop being AGF that this user is merely bringing up questions, and start becoming purely a venue of harassment and trolling and nonproductive circular complaining by this individual? Wilhelm 20:57, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * He can complain all he wants...but as you can see the admins are on your side. So he is at this point just trolling. If it gets worse then we can consider options. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. I just fail to see the usefulness of a user and a discussion thread whose sole purpose is "trolling", as you say.  Wilhelm 21:11, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well he really hasn't done anything wrong yet. And now that he sees he is getting no where, then there is nothing to worry about. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:12, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. Time to focus on other things, such as developing sources for new articles...  Wilhelm 21:18, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Bestseller?
Is it newsworthy to have a brief bit on a book after it hit #1 on Amazon.com Top Sellers and The New York Times Best Sellers list a week after it comes out? Wilhelm 21:33, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose yes, but so long as WN:NPOV and such are followed accordingly :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * So much stuff coming out, so many sources hitting news at once on different topics, gotta see which ones to write... Wilhelm 21:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * FYI - "Unauthorized" Tom Cruise Bio Hits Number One on Amazon.com, New York Times Best Sellers list. I did my best to include viewpoints from the many various angles.  Wilhelm 05:13, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Related to the Anonymous Raids and 711chan
Hi. I'm an admin at 711chan, and in case you need any information or details on any of our current projects.. drop me a line. AIM: Evil Radio Inaki MSN: inaki@adoptnix.org  IRC: irc.711chan.org #711chan (plasma)

why was my mosaic health solutions article denied?

drew (i havent used this site and it seems very confusing —Preceding unsigned comment added by Healthyguy9 (talk • contribs) 04:57, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Accreditation
Hello again ;-) I am an active user at the Spanish Wikinews, and I would like to be an accredited user to be able to interview Puerto Rican politicians for that wiki. Unfortunately, we do not currently have an established accreditation system there. However, I recently saw another user request accreditation here and use it to interview people for the Spanish Wikipedia. My question is, could I do the same? --Boricu æ ddie  17:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes you can try here. Please provide detailed links to your SP user page, your contributions and what you have done and what not over there. Explain why you are coming here to ask for accreditation. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:28, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Boricu æ ddie  17:40, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

thanks for welcome message.
user_talk:gppande Gppande 12:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Image
I don't know if it is possible for that image to be free-use. Remember we are dealing with an organization here with a history of litigation. How can using their trademarked symbol be free-use? Cirt 17:01, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't upload anything from commons...it was already there. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I know - I think all those "Scientology symbols" on the Commons, should not be there. They are all in violation and are not free-use.  How about using one of these instead to represent the Scientology angle?

Cirt 17:05, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:Hollywood scientology building top.jpg
 * Image:ScientologyCenter1.jpg
 * Image:ScientologyShopTottenhamCourtRd.jpg
 * This is not their full symbol...but basically a make-up of one. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:13, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Even so, best to rather use a more obvious free-use image, perhaps one of the images from above with "Scientology" in it, than a trademark? Cirt 17:15, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure...ask commons? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:22, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I mean here on Wikinews. If you feel comfortable using this image you created, then fine.  But since you created the image I'd encourage you to get another opinion on this trademark which really should not be on Commons and is not free-use, and perhaps instead use a different image that is undisputably free-use, like a photo of a building.  Cirt 17:24, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Checked with commons, and its ok. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:56, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, sounds good, they're the experts. Cirt 17:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous plans to protest Church of Scientology on February 10
What do you think of the article? Cirt 00:46, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Not as exciting as the rest...but its good :-) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * That's okay - so long as I get at least one Admin or respected editor to sign off on my work, to avoid ... well, you know. Cirt 03:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * FYI, the Associated Press recently put out a brief piece covering the February 10 planned protests. Their story about it went out on the 31st - 2 days after the above was published.  Cirt 21:45, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Internet versus Scientology
It seems like there are at least one or two accredited editors doing pending original reporting research related to this topic, and then I'm of course looking for notable developments that are either really notable enough to have an exclusive article for - or where newsworthiness has been established already w/ similar articles first in other media. Perhaps we should have a uniform topic subpage somewhere to coordinate? Cirt 05:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Mebbe as a subpage off of Portal:Internet or something? Cirt 05:26, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Possibly...or an infobox. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh, I actually like the more general Scientology box that was created by . Cirt 18:35, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

217 protests worldwide? Wow. Cirt 06:51, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * So far yes :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:49, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

"Anonymous" plans to protest Church of Scientology on February 10
Can you please comment on the talk page re 's major changes to the article waaaaay post the publish date? My tendency is to leave the article as is, as it was on date of publish, save for any very very minor copyediting or grammatical errors. Cirt 22:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't loads of external links (that aren't to Wikipedia or a sister project) to be avoided within the actual article text? Cirt 22:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Article is generally not updated extensively after 24 hours. And to your second question: external links get listed in sources, or in an external links section. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:52, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought, on both counts. Some anon-ips keep trying to update the stats on the amount of times the YouTube vids have been shown, but I want to keep them as it was as of the date of publish.  Cirt 22:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Application of abandoned tag
Isn't it a tad bit aggressive to use the abandoned tag on articles which have sources that are today (Jan 30)? example --SVTCobra 23:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry...didn't see that. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks but no thanks.
I know you want to keep this organized, but my anonymity is important. The people in charge of the protest are aware of my participation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.1.180.28 (talk) 08:35, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well if you plan to participate in the protest, we can only accept video and images. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:08, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

711Chan Stops Hosting "Project Chanology"
Can you please move this article back to its previous title? This really should not be changed this long after the article was published. Cirt 17:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You may also wish to consider a block, or at the very least a warning, for for recent actions. Cirt 17:35, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, it was ✅ by . Cirt 17:56, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Revert?
That was fast. I don't object to the revert - but I would prefer it in the future if you could explain a revert like that with an edit summary please? Cirt 04:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry...but I did say on your talk. Its only been a few hours...Would it be ok to wait? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No prob, of course we can wait - just in the future please add an explanatory edit summary when you revert like that? Cirt 04:23, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course...I was just too quick...apologies. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

No worries :). I may not be online when you feel enough time has elapsed, so if you feel it's appropriate you can put the newer article up instead.  If not, that's okay too - as I had said before the article you did w/ Brian is really good.  Cirt 04:25, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Church of Scientology page
Alright, I have a bone to pick with you. I added a few paragraphs to the bottom of the church of Scientology page. None of these were lies, all were quited directly off of wikipedia or from Scientology papers. Everything there was to invite the public to come to their own conclusion instead of the one that is being forced down their throats.

Yet every time I try to offer the public some fair an unbiased knowledge, it is knocked away by you. Multiple times even, not two seconds after I click the save button. It's like you were sitting there, waiting for me to post, so you could once again make sure my words are not seen.

What the heck? Did I lie? did I do anything against the terms? I looked it up, and I did not. Yet you banned me, and also banned me from appealing.

The only violation that has come is from your end of things, and that would be unfair removal of information with no cause to do so.

You make me ashamed to call myself bisexual, when you so willingly filter out knowledge from the public's eye.

Wikinews: The free news source you can write! (only if our mods like it. if not, tough)

Enjoy your hypocrisy, dude. if you're anything IRL like you are online, you must be a sad, lonely human being.

PS: if you think this comment is serious, I have a bridge to sell you.
 * One: old news. Two: No sources: Three: New news = new article. Plus, I was not the only one to revert you. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:57, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Church of Scientology: '"Anonymous' will be stopped"
You may wish to have a look at recent alterations to the intro text by. Cirt 14:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Please look at the talk comments and respond there before jumping into the fray. I would hate to think that you are deliberately misusing and misrepresenting your sources. Thanks. --JustaHulk 14:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Changes to 711chan article
"Maybe the case, but at the time that was NOT his opinion."

You're right, at the time of the first article that wasn't his opinion. Unfortunately for you, that has fuck all to do with why the note was added in the first place. The note wasn't put there in order to change the original quotes or to edit the original article, and it certainly wasn't put there to say that the article was wrong at the time of publishing, what the note was there for was to point people to the fact his [Plasma's] opinion has changed. Which it has, and you cannot deny that.

This is the reason the note specifically stated "recently", which, in this context, I'm sure you'll recognise as meaning "since this article was written". It's important to point this out since people reading the "711chan calls for..." article might not directly find the more recent set of quotes due to them being in an article who's title has absolutely nothing to do with 711chan.

So, considering the fact your reasoning for removing the note has just been shot to pieces, and assuming you have no other reason not to, re-instate the note.

Oh, and feel free to delete this - so long as you acknowledge it I don't give a shit.

Fallen-Griever 22:46, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Wayne Allyn Root wins Missouri Libertarain Primary
I recently did an article on Wayne Allyn Root winning the Missouri Libertarian primary, which I was told needed some cleaning up. I did this and put the 'Publish' tag on it yesterday, but it still has yet to appear on the main page. If it is not ready for publishing, that's fine, but please put it back under 'Development'. If you think it is, please try to get it on the main page. Thanks for your help.--WNewsReporter 15:40, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Actually, this user was referring to Wayne Allyn Root wins Missouri Libertarian primary and the the reason it was 'invisible' was a corrupt date. --SVTCobra 02:24, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah...my mistake :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:25, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Dirty tricks used to get "Message to Scientology" video pulled from YouTube???
Do you know anything about this?

Anonymous Coward Says: February 14, 2008 at 7:25 pm

Read that comment.

The video "Message to Scientology" on YouTube had last been viewed 2,347,511 times. Now, if you try to view it on YouTube, you get the message: This video has been removed due to terms of use violation.

Let me know if you hear more about this? Cirt - (talk) 02:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The other 2 videos by the same user are still there: Church0fScientology. Cirt - (talk) 02:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Here is a Digg link that has gotten a bit of traction regarding a similar issue re: YouTube suppression of information. Cirt - (talk) 04:47, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Here is some more info: YouTube is blocking nearly all anti-Scientology content. Cirt - (talk) 05:06, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow...very interesting and sneaky. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 20:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Let me know if you know of any secondary sources covering this yet. Cirt - (talk) 21:46, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't see any atm. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Vid appears to be back up now, w/ the old vid count of over 2.3 million views. Wonder what happened there.  Cirt - (talk) 22:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews is "instrumental"
As awesome as it sounds, I don't think Stanford called us instrumental; some Flickr user did. The description of the image does say the diagram is to be used at Stanford, but the pop-ups reading "Wikinews", "OhMyNews", etc. are not part of the actual image and were added by Flickr users. Notice how Wikinews is also listed on the far right side of the image, under a different username. ~Planoneck~ 22:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Even if the notes are the same as used in the referenced "Comm 217, Digital Journalism" class it seems it would be the opinion of the professor teaching the course and not the official position of Stanford University. --SVTCobra 22:39, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I e-mailed the person who uploaded the diagram, a professor at the university, and he said it was used in a class and in a research project. The report, as he said is not published yet, but did not specify when it will be. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:09, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Hiding your face in aprotest is stupid and wimpy!!!
so you believe that we as US citizens have the right to Freedom of Speech... So if you are standing up for what you believe is right than you must have som pretty big cajunas... so why hide your face, it can be just as peaceful as showing who you are, and showing that you believe in what you are doing. i believe hiding you face behind a "scarf or hat.." is a waste of time, and you shouldn't even bother to protest. Showing your face is not going to harm you in anyway, especially if you are only using your Freedom of Speech within limits. you arent hurting anyone, you are just making yourself look wimpy!!! 66.215.203.241 02:23, 21 February 2008 (UTC) Angelica

Stanford calls us instrumental
Is that part of something coming WN:SOON or more something for In the news or Template:Wn news? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 14:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I was told to put it there because it didn't belong in hte topic of the wikinews IRC channel........ DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 20:28, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Block of Planoneck?
Hi DF. Why did you block the user Planoneck? I was surprised to see that and went back in his contributions. Couldn't see anything obvious. Was he blocked in error or did I miss something? --Jcart1534 - (talk) 04:12, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It was an error...i clicked the wrong name in an edit history of an article and accidently blocked that name. I unblocked though so everything should be ok. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:15, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, that would have been a surprising block. --David Shankbone - (talk) 05:16, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I have question

 * Hi how can you do that like that those words on the talk like when you ~ four tildes like youw text like talk to dragon thing how do you do that. Transparent Blue - (talk) 00:06, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

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User talk:Johnnrail

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Question
Was the quote you added to an article obtained from another news source or by you? Both are allowed just I need to know which one it is so it can be noted on the talk page if appropriate. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 21:22, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

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Wikinews interviews author and filmmaker John Gaspard

March 19, 2008

Wikinews held an exclusive interview with author and filmmaker John Gaspard. His films Resident Alien, Beyond Bob and Grown Men, besides opening to positive critical response, were all made on very low budgets; costing around US$30,000. He says this is because "I despise the process of trying to raise money to finance movies."

He has also written several books on filmmaking, most notably Digital Filmmaking 101. He says that it was "originally.....a series of notes to ourselves, to remind us of the steps we took to make a feature for very little money. We later expanded those notes into a complete book to provide beginning filmmakers with the tools they would need to make a feature for what most Hollywood films spend on coffee and rolls."

Gaspard has written two other books as well. Fast, Cheap and Under Control: Lessons Learned From the Greatest Low-Budget Movie of All Time features interviews with some of the world's most well known low budget filmmakers, including B-movie king Roger Corman and actor-turned-director Tom Noonan. Fast, Cheap and Written that Way: Top Screenwriters on Writing for Low-Budget Movies features interviews with successful screenwriters who have written for low budget films.

Interview

 * You've directed three films (Resident Alien, Beyond Bob and Grown Men). Tell us about them.

 * Mr. Gaspard: Since I despise the process of trying to raise money to finance movies, each movie was written specifically to be shot on an ultra-low budget.

 * Resident Alien and Beyond Bob were produced on 16mm film, and each cost a little under $30,000 to produce.

 * Resident Alien, a science fiction-comedy feature film, is the story of a UFO crash that changes the lives of two down-on-their-luck people in a small Midwestern town. The Minneapolis Star Tribune newspaper said, "Resident Alien is the best low-budget project to come out of the area."

 * Beyond Bob, an award-winning comedy from the other side, is a story of love and friendship, of passion from beyond the grave, of a love that was made in heaven ... and was just too darned important to stay there. Beyond Bob was recently awarded the "Best Feature" award at the Forx Film Festival; it also received an Honorable Mention at the Seventh Annual George Lindsey UNA Film Festival, and a Bronze Award at the WorldFest Houston.

 * Grown Men is a digital feature, consisting of five interlocking stories from four Minnesota writers: Rewired by David Fields, It’s A Date and The Late Mrs. Boynton by John Gaspard, The $1,000 Wedding by Tom Poole, and Red Velvet Handcuffs by Matthew G. Anderson.

 * Grown Men premiered at the Ashland Independent Film Festival. It was named "Best of the Fest - Best Feature Screenplay" at the Black Point Film Festival in Lake Geneva. It was also featured at the New York International Independent Film & Video Festival; the Waterfront Film Festival; the Oxford Film Festival; and the Tambay Film Festival.

 * You're the author and co-author of several books, most notably Digital Filmmaking 101. Tell us about them. What inspires you to write?

 * Mr. Gaspard: We wrote Digital Filmmaking 101 originally as a series of notes to ourselves, to remind us of the steps we took to make a feature for very little money. We later expanded those notes into a complete book to provide beginning filmmakers with the tools they would need to make a feature for what most Hollywood films spend on coffee and rolls.

 * My second book, Fast, Cheap and Under Control: Lessons Learned From the Greatest Low-Budget Movie of All Time, was designed to help keep new filmmakers from re-inventing the wheel every time they go out to make a feature. There is a wealth of knowledge in the low-budget movies that have come before ours, and it's a foolish filmmaker who doesn't heed those lessons. In the book I talked to both old-school low-budget filmmakers (like Roger Corman) and people from the current generation (Swingers, The Blair Witch Project, Open Water, etc.).

 * The latest book, Fast, Cheap and Written that Way: Top Screenwriters on Writing for Low-Budget Movies, does just what the title suggests. I spoke to over twenty top screenwriters who had previously worked on low-budget films and got their secrets on how to write for a tiny budget. Interviewees included George Romero, Tom DiCillo, Stuart Gordon, Bob Clark and Kenneth Lonnergan, among others.

 * Your films were made on very low budgets. Grown Men cost under $13,000. How did you manage this?

 * Mr. Gaspard: Well, as soon as you realize that you won't be paying anyone, that cuts your costs significantly. Second, you should write the script to conform to locations and props that you can get for free. Third, you should shoot as quickly as you can -- 12 to 15 pages of script a day is not uncommon.

 * The main reason to make a movie for such little money is not just to save money -- it's also to help you maintain control of the movie. Without backers breathing down your neck, you can make the movie you want at the pace you want. You may never see that money again -- a high percentage of low-budget movies never see the light of day, let along turn a profit -- but the satisfaction of making the movie YOU wanted to make greatly outweighs the cost.

 * Will you be doing anymore films in the near future?

 * Mr. Gaspard: We're mulling over some script ideas, but currently don't have anything we're dying to do.

 * Do you have any advice for the amateur filmmakers reading this?

 * Mr. Gaspard: See as many movies as you can -- low-budget independent films, Hollywood films, classic movies from the Golden Era. You can learn something valuable from every movie you watch, so the more you see the more you learn.

 * Read scripts to learn how to write one. And I mean real scripts, not transcriptions of finished movies. Learn what the words look like on the page and how that gets translated into images on the screen.

 * And, most important, don't ever try to fund your movie with credit cards. Don't believe what you read about other filmmakers doing this -- it flat out doesn't work.

 * Happy filmmaking!


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Reply to all Forward Reply by chat Filter messages like this Print Add to Contacts list Delete this message Report phishing Report not phishing Show original Show in fixed width font Show in variable width font Message text garbled? Why is this spam/nonspam? Joseph Ford to jgaspard show details Mar 18 (1 day ago) Reply

Mr. Gaspard, I'm an accredited reporter for Wikinews (Wikipedia's news subsidiary) and was wondering if I could get an email interview with you on your books and films. I've seen and read them and found them to be very good. The interview would be short and posted on Wikinews a few days after it is done. If you are interested, please reply as soon as possible. Thanks for your time, Joe Ford (WNewsReporter on Wikinews)

Reply to all Forward Reply by chat Filter messages like this Print Add to Contacts list Delete this message Report phishing Report not phishing Show original Show in fixed width font Show in variable width font Message text garbled? Why is this spam/nonspam? John GaspardSure, Joe, that sounds like fun. JG -Original Message- >From: Joseph ... Mar 18 (1 day ago)

John Gaspard to me show details Mar 18 (1 day ago) Reply

Sure, Joe, that sounds like fun.

JG

-Original Message- >From: Joseph Ford  >Sent: Mar 18, 2008 3:08 PM >To: jgaspard@earthlink.com >Subject: Wikinews Interview > >Mr. Gaspard, > >I'm an accredited reporter for Wikinews (Wikipedia's news subsidiary) and >was wondering if I could get an email interview with you on your books and >films. I've seen and read them and found them to be very good. > >The interview would be short and posted on Wikinews a few days after it is >done. If you are interested, please reply as soon as possible. > >Thanks for your time, >Joe Ford >(WNewsReporter on Wikinews)

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Joseph FordHere are the questions, Mr. Gaspard: Q: You've directed three films (Resident... 9:05 PM (22 hours ago)

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Here are the questions, Mr. Gaspard: Q: You've directed three films (Resident Alien, Beyond Bob and Grown Men). Tell us about them. Q: You're the author and co-author of several books, most notably Digital Filmmaking 101. Tell us about them. What inspires you to write? Q: Your films were made on very low budgets. Grown Men cost under $10,000. How did you manage this? Q: Will you be doing anymore films in the near future? Q: Do you have any advice for the amateur filmmakers reading this? Thanks again for your time.

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Sure, Joe, that sounds like fun.

JG

-Original Message- >From: Joseph Ford  >Sent: Mar 18, 2008 3:08 PM >To: jgaspard@earthlink.com >Subject: Wikinews Interview > >Mr. Gaspard, > >I'm an accredited reporter for Wikinews (Wikipedia's news subsidiary) and >was wondering if I could get an email interview with you on your books and >films. I've seen and read them and found them to be very good. > >The interview would be short and posted on Wikinews a few days after it is >done. If you are interested, please reply as soon as possible. > >Thanks for your time, >Joe Ford >(WNewsReporter on Wikinews)

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John Gaspard to me show details 9:59 PM (21 hours ago) Reply

Joe,

Here are the answers. If you need any photos. feel free to grab them from our website (www.graniteproductions.org).

And let me know if you have any more questions.

Best wishes,

John G.

Q: You've directed three films (Resident Alien, Beyond Bob and Grown Men). Tell us about them. Since I despise the process of trying to raise money to finance movies, each movie was written specifically to be shot on an ultra-low budget. Resident Alien and Beyond Bob were produced on 16mm film, and each cost a little under $30,000 to produce. Resident Alien, a science fiction-comedy feature film, is the story of a UFO crash that changes the lives of two down-on-their-luck people in a small Midwestern town. The Minneapolis Star Tribune newspaper said, "Resident Alien is the best low-budget project to come out of the area." Beyond Bob, an award-winning comedy from the other side, is a story of love and friendship, of passion from beyond the grave, of a love that was made in heaven ... and was just too darned important to stay there. Beyond Bob was recently awarded the "Best Feature" award at the Forx Film Festival; it also received an Honorable Mention at the Seventh Annual George Lindsey UNA Film Festival, and a Bronze Award at the WorldFest Houston. Grown Men is a digital feature, consisting of five interlocking stories from four Minnesota writers: “Rewired” by David Fields, “It’s A Date” and "The Late Mrs. Boynton" by John Gaspard, “The $1,000 Wedding” by Tom Poole, and “Red Velvet Handcuffs” by Matthew G. Anderson. Grown Men premiered at the Ashland Independent Film Festival. It was named "Best of the Fest - Best Feature Screenplay" at the Black Point Film Festival in Lake Geneva. It was also featured at the New York International Independent Film & Video Festival; the Waterfront Film Festival; the Oxford Film Festival; and the Tambay Film Festival. Q: You're the author and co-author of several books, most notably Digital Filmmaking 101. Tell us about them. What inspires you to write? We wrote Digital Filmmaking 101 originally as a series of notes to ourselves, to remind us of the steps we took to make a feature for very little money. We later expanded those notes into a complete book to provide beginning filmmakers with the tools they would need to make a feature for what most Hollywood films spend on coffee and rolls. My second book, "Fast, Cheap and Under Control: Lessons Learned From the Greatest Low-Budget Movie of All Time," was designed to help keep new filmmakers from re-inventing the wheel every time they go out to make a feature. There is a wealth of knowledge in the low-budget movies that have come before ours, and it's a foolish filmmaker who doesn't heed those lessons. In the book I talked to both old-school low-budget filmmakers (like Roger Corman) and people from the current generation (Swingers, The Blair Witch Project, Open Water, etc.). The latest book, Fast, Cheap and Written that Way: Top Screenwriters on Writing for Low-Budget Movies, does just what the title suggests. I spoke to over twenty top screenwriters who had previously worked on low-budget films and got their secrets on how to write for a tiny budget. Interviewees included George Romero, Tom DiCillo, Stuart Gordon, Bob Clark and Kenneth Lonnergan, among others. Q: Your films were made on very low budgets. Grown Men cost under $13,000. How did you manage this? Well, as soon as you realize that you won't be paying anyone, that cuts your costs significantly. Second, you should write the script to conform to locations and props that you can get for free. Third, you should shoot as quickly as you can -- 12 to 15 pages of script a day is not uncommon. The main reason to make a movie for such little money is not just to save money -- it's also to help you maintain control of the movie. Without backers breathing down your neck, you can make the movie you want at the pace you want. You may never see that money again -- a high percentage of low-budget movies never see the light of day, let along turn a profit -- but the satisfaction of making the movie YOU wanted to make greatly outweighs the cost. Q: Will you be doing any more films in the near future? We're mulling over some script ideas, but currently don't have anything we're dying to do. Q: Do you have any advice for the amateur filmmakers reading this? See as many movies as you can -- low-budget independent films, Hollywood films, classic movies from the Golden Era. You can learn something valuable from every movie you watch, so the more you see the more you learn. Read scripts to learn how to write one. And I mean real scripts, not transcriptions of finished movies. Learn what the words look like on the page and how that gets translated into images on the screen. And, most important, don't ever try to fund your movie with credit cards. Don't believe what you read about other filmmakers doing this -- it flat out doesn't work. Happy filmmaking!


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Welcome to my inbox
Leave me a note or message here! Yes that is correct, but the article is a summary of well over 100 and more impartial then the last one on Frank LaGrotta written by the New Castle News where they flat out called LaGrotta a liar, and convicted felon, will that is all true. Still. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.247.22.51 (talk) 18:21, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

anon photos
i believe you are mistaken... as the iphone has no sd card. and it was clearly taken with an iphone etc. and i started the photo pages.. see my contribs Rankun - (talk) 04:50, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

also this would mean you would have to be in Mass And NYC at the same time....Rankun - (talk) 04:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I fixed it
The nyc New york partRankun - (talk) 00:53, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Deadly milestone in Iraq: 4,000 US soldiers killed Ooops
Merge with yours? you decide which :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:25, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Duped Economic policymakers discuss and act on food and credit crises
Sorry, TUFKAAP, I checked the developing stories, but somehow still missed that you had started one. That would have saved me a lot work (*hits self in head*) furthermore your story calls attention to a mistake in mine, which I will fix now (*hits self in head again*). Cheers, --SVTCobra 21:04, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Computex 2008
About conflicts, in fact..

 * 1) There are two official COMPUTEX websites, but established respectively by different organizer.
 * 2) Since the TAITRA opened the registration for Media Accreditation, the TCA (Taipei Computer Association) also did at theirs website, too.
 * 3) They recruited with different companies, TAITRA for foreign participants, but TCA is for Taiwanese and Japanese (with IPPC.biz) participants.

Currently, just some information as I got from the Exhibition Section of TAITRA. Brock contact... 11:34, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Block
If I may, why did you issue a one-week block to an IP that hasn't been used in four weeks? How does that make anyone safer? --SVTCobra 03:17, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Operation Orchard sat images.jpg
Could you please give us the source for this image. Many thanks --Mark Talk to me 22:56, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

publish the Helen Thomas article
Thanks for publishing the Helen Thomas flowers article.--ragesoss - (talk) 06:53, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Two MBTA Green Line trains collide in Newton, Massachusetts
Nice work on this quite unfortunate occurrence. Cirt (talk) 06:05, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Code of Ethics Discussion
Please see this update to your Code of Ethics Discussion at the Water Cooler Policy Page. Moulton (talk) 14:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

2008 Arbitration Committee elections
I have nominated you for the 2008 Arbitration Committee elections. Please indicate if you accept and if you do then please add a brief candidate statement at Arbitration Committee/Elections July 2008. Cirt (talk) 20:48, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

FlaggedRevs
If you have not already seen this, please look, comment, and vote both here and on bugzilla. Further assistance such as contact information for Google would be a very useful detail to share and help in petitioning for a listing in their news index. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

US presidential candidate John McCain now leads in the polls
On US presidential candidate John McCain now leads in the polls, we had conflicting reviews. Needs resolution. —Calebrw (talk) 01:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Contact In progress. I agree with the title change. —Calebrw (talk) 01:22, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Bob Barr Removal Article Review
TUFKAAP, I wrote an article tonight on Bob Barr's possible removal from the Libertarian Party's presidential nomination. If you could review it, that would be a great help. Thanks.

Link: Plans set in motion for the removal of Bob Barr as the Libertarian Party's U.S. presidential nominee

--WNewsReporter (talk) 01:56, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

 * I've added a new source and fixed the title. Please take another look at this when you get a chance. Thanks. --WNewsReporter (talk) 02:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

 * I was going to let you know that another source has been added, but it's already been put there. —Calebrw (talk) 03:11, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Despite threats, "Alaska Women Reject Palin" rally held
Please review Despite threats, "Alaska Women Reject Palin" rally held. Thanks, —Calebrw (talk) 04:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Lynn, eh?
North Shore represent! 24.61.102.23 21:31, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Why did you delete...
? There's a link to it on Portal:Weather_°F. From the caption, User:DragonFire1024 uploaded it. I couldn't find it in WP:DR archives for items deleted around that time, so I'm guessing it was a speedy. TransUtopian (talk) 05:14, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Your use of rollback tool, and a note on peer review
Regarding your use of rollback tool here, and here, I wish you had not used the rollback tool for those edits, but in addition to your talkpage post it would have been better for you to take the time to utilize an edit summary to explain your reverts. Also, nowhere does it state that a review must take the form of using the peer reviewed template - the review by was sufficient. Cirt (talk) 16:55, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Please also see Template_talk:Peer_reviewed. Cirt (talk) 17:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That can be arranged, and likely should. There have been discussions about de-admining for abuse of editor privileges where a peer review has not been conducted. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:27, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Link to said discussions? Cirt (talk) 18:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

presidential results template
I worked off BBC and CNN for my update to the template, 3rd party votes are just listed as Other so I don't have the distribution details on them. If you've got a source for this, please share. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey!
I was just about to come here to put the article you just deleted up for review. I thought I had a two day warning. --Elassint (talk) 23:01, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Shameless plug
This, http://www.kohchangsalakphet.com/index_e.html, is the website of my partner's brother's business/resort on Koh Chang (Elephant Island). When we visited a couple of years ago there were very few western tourists, only saw a couple of backpackers in the island's main town.

The seafront chalets are on stilts over the water, a pier runs out to where they keep nets for fresh fish and for boats to come in, and the restaurant, while covered, is open air. You'd fly into the Trat regional airport, likely hire a car, and it is a short drive to the ferry crossing to the island. The beaches are virtually deserted, and spotlessly clean. The island's interior is nearly jungle, and there are many beautiful waterfalls around the place. Driving into the northern half of the island can be an experience though, some of the roads rise very steeply and you've got to be cautious. In any case, much less touristy that Phuket, you don't get hassled by people selling stuff on the beach and, like a lot of Thailand, you are made very welcome. Oh, and the seafood is fabulous. You simply won't get it any more fresh. You order, they fish it out a net, kill, gut, cook, and serve. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:40, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Redirection of Geraldine Ferraro
Thanks for the redirection of Story preparation/Former Presidential Candidate Geraldine Ferraro dies at age XX. That was very wonderful. Mindy (talk) 10:16, 3 December 2008 (UTC) Mindy (talk) 10:17, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Yo
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Solar_car_travels_around_the_world Hasnt really passed the review, needs a bit more sources and to be honest in my opinion its not passed the style as yet. Cheers Danger^Mouse (talk) 04:51, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Some sentences need work. Danger^Mouse (talk) 11:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi
Thanks for your review and the publish template on my written article US Supreme Court allows 'light' cigarettes lawsuits - but despite its being published, it does not appear on the first or front page, since it was not sighted as just draft version has appeared in the history tab. Please help in fixing the matter so that it is sighted and appears on the front page for Dec.17. Cheeers and happy holiday.--Florentino Floro (talk) 05:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I got it. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:21, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Protest article
You wrote in a recent review: "Gotta work on that protest article next,".

Cool - I thought no-one was interested in Protester killed in West Bank; world reacts to Gaza conflict. I look forward to hearing your comments.

--InfantGorilla (talk) 17:49, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Thanks! --InfantGorilla (talk) 10:05, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

RfB
I, Acting upon the advice and consent of the Cable of Wikinews Incorporated, hereby have promoted you to bureaucrat. I withheld from voting so I would be able to take the honour of promoting and been able to say Congard! About time! I always check in here every day or two, keeping the eye on anything that needs doing bcrat wise, thus if you need any help - not that you will :) Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 07:29, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Cirt (talk) 07:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Changing username
If you are up for it, there are some entries here that could use attention from a Bureaucrat. More specifically, as previously mentioned a few days ago, here. Cirt (talk) 21:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

RfA needs closing
Hello, you are one of the 'crats that did not comment in the RfA for. It has been well over 7 days since the RfA started, please see WN:RFP. Thank you for your time, Cirt (talk) 22:37, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

A penny for your thoughts
Okay, not really, but I am requesting your participation in the following Water Cooler Discussion: OR and Broadcast report. The discussion involves the need for specific policy concerning how Original Reporting relates to information recieved from a broadcast report of an event. This can include both news-style reports and non-news reports, such as a sporting event. Thanks and again, please share your thoughts on this so we can get as many people involved as possible, especially since this relates to an important topic such as OR. —Calebrw (talk) 05:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

My RfA
Just wanted to say thanks for participating in my RfA. I'll be sure to put the tools to good use. :) – Juliancolton  | Talk 18:59, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Project INDECT
I need all the help I can get on this. Take a look at the in-prep article text, the video, and my notes on the talk. At the moment I'm going to look at the NeoConOpticon report - will be speaking to the author in the next couple of days. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:29, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Banners
Hi TUFKAAP I need this wonderful banners without text. If it is posible can you please send them via email to me. I want to use them for Turkish Wikinews. Thank you. --Gökhan (talk) 18:45, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Why?
You deleted the [Editing Bluff erosion in Pacifica, California prompts evacuations article] I wrote, which is fine, I mean who cares, but why in the world the reason is "copyright violation"? There was no copyright violation at all. Are you sure you know what you are doing?--Mbz1 (talk) 21:22, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Hiya
Hey there, I see you are around - care to have a look at an article? Elvish, Klingon and Na'vi: Constructed languages gain foothold in film. I hope you enjoy it. ;) Cheers, Cirt (talk) 17:44, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Nevermind. :P Cirt (talk) 18:16, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Your support for my RFA
I would like to thank you for supporting my successful RFA and for your confidence in me. I look forward to serving further the English Wikinews community in this new capacity. I shall take the new tasks required of an administrator on board step by step and will make the utmost effort to fulfil the role to the best of my abilities. Kind regards Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 12:45, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

US, UK embassies in Yemen close due to al-Qaeda threat & US closes embassy in Yemen
Hello, it seem that we both created similar articles about the recent activity in Yemen. We should try to get these merged and published. Cocoaguytalkcontribs‽ 17:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I agree. I think that your title is better anyhow Cocoaguytalkcontribs‽ 18:06, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

RE Worldwide airport security
Actually i don't know how I could have missed Denver VS Detroit...I totally just did not see that and don't know what I was thinking since I am from Detroit originally. Total fail on my part. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 09:08, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Regarding lead one
Hi TUFKAAP, just wanted to say that i (partially) reverted your edit here. Whereas the photoessay is a "sister" article directly relevant to the in-depth article, and the two complement each other with photos and text, the Limbaugh story is slightly more off-topic and i don't feel it merits inclusion in the "See also" list. (Also, the formatting skews the main page a bit, we usually don't have that many blank spaces on the ledes). Feel free to revert me, though, if you feel particularly strongly about it. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  02:31, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikinews writing contest reminder
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Chrono sort Sources
Can you please chrono sort the Sources, at UK bans export of fradulent bomb detector; arrests director of manufacturer? Cirt (talk) 22:38, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

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Merge?
Should these two be merged? Cirt (talk) 14:06, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Train collision kills at least 20 outside Brussels
 * 2) At least ten dead in Belgian rail crash
 * Yes --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 14:13, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Review
Please could you review 2010 BRIT Awards highlights? It's overdue. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 18:09, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter now, it's already been published. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 09:31, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikinews Portal Banners
Could you please tell me how you made those banners? They certainly look very professional. If it's possible, I would like to have a go at creating some too. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 09:48, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Contest newsletter: weeks 3-4
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Help
I just created Story preparation/82nd Academy Awards and I request u to make some stylistic improvements, additions, subtractions,etc. Thank You --Adi4094 (talk) 05:17, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Contest newsletter
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Points distribution for Polish plane crash article
Hi, TUFKAAP. I want to tell you that I am unclear about the points distribution concerning the Polish president article I submitted. While the article was initially worth 11 points, it has since been expanded and is now worth 31 points. Since the article was originally worth 11 points and I added text worth 4 points to it today, I propose I get 15 points, you get 12 points as you contributed slightly less text than I did and TDV gets the remaining 4 points for his contribs. Please tell me what you think about this or leave your comments here. Cheers, Pmlineditor discuss 09:11, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

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Hubble detects methane on distant planet

March 19, 2008

NASA's Hubble Space Telescope has detected methane in the atmosphere of a planet 63 light-years away, marking the first discovery of an organic compound on a planet outside our Solar System.

The methane was found on a Jupiter-sized planet named HD 189733b. The planet closely orbits HD 189733, a yellow dwarf star in the constellation Vulpecula.

Although methane can play a key role in the chemical reactions needed to form life, the planet is too close to its parent star to support life, scientists say. It is known as a "hot Jupiter" - a planet whose mass is comparable to that of Jupiter, but orbits nearer to the parent star than Mercury, our Solar System's innermost planet.

This particular hot Jupiter takes just two days to completely orbit its parent star, and the temperatures in its atmosphere can reach 1,650 degrees Fahrenheit, around the melting point of silver.

"The methane here, although we can call it an organic constituent, is not produced by life - it is way too hot there for life," said Giovanna Tinetti, part of the NASA team that made the discovery.

However, scientists believe the spectroscopic methods used to detect the methane can be used to find organic compounds on other distant planets. "This observation is proof that spectroscopy can eventually be done on a cooler and potentially habitable Earth-sized planet orbiting a dimmer red dwarf-type star," said Mark Swain, a NASA scientist whose paper on the discovery will appear in the scientific journal Nature.

Spectroscopy is the splitting of light into its components. As the light from the star passed through the planet's atmosphere, the atmospheric gases imprinted their chemical signature onto the light, allowing the atmosphere's chemical composition to be analyzed by Near Infrared Camera and Multi-Object Spectrometer. To their surprise, astronomers found much higher levels of methane than had been predicted for hot Jupiters. "This indicates we don't really understand exoplanet atmospheres yet," said Swain.

This discovery also confirmed the presence of water molecules in the planet's atmosphere, which was found by NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope last year using spectroscopy. "With this observation there is no question whether there is water or not - water is present," Swain said.

The ultimate goal of these studies is to identify the molecules of more Earth-like planets in the habitable zone of stars, where conditions may be favorable for life.

Adam Showman at the University of Arizona said, "We are thus now seeing but the opening salvo in a revolution that will extend humankind's view of planetary worlds far beyond the provincial boundaries of our Solar System."

Giovanna Tinetti, who co-authored the Nature article, believes the concept of life on other planets is not too unlikely. "My personal view is it is way too arrogant to think that we are the only ones living in the Universe," she says.


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I can't even imagine how you could film a 16mm feature length for 30,000. Especially if you consider the price of the film, development, and equipment to be nearly 30,000 alone.


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Zenit rocket launches DirecTV-11 satellite

March 20, 2008

A Sea Launch Zenit-3SL rocket has successfully launched the DirecTV-11 Communications satellite for DirecTV. The Ukrainian-built rocket lifted off from the Norwegian Ocean Odyssey launch platform in the Pacific Ocean at 22:47:59 (UTC) yesterday evening, with spacecraft separation from the carrier rocket occurring at 23:49:03.

The mission, which marked the 13th orbital launch of 2008, is the 25th commercial launch to be conducted by the international Sea Launch consortium, the first of which also lofted a DirecTV satellite. This is also the 250th flight of the Block DM upper stage, which is used on some variants of the Zenit and Proton rockets. Launch had been delayed from November 2007 due to damage to the launch platform caused by the failure of an earlier Zenit launch. Delays from earlier this month were caused by a problem with the satellite, resulting in a ten-day delay, and a further two-day delay from Monday evening due to an undisclosed problem with the rocket.

DirecTV-11 is a Boeing 702 satellite, which will provide Direct-to-home High-definition television broadcasting services to houses in the United States, by means of Ka-band communications. It is one of three such satellites operated by DirecTV. The satellite made its first contact with the ground several hours after launch, at 05:44 GMT.

The launch was dedicated to Arthur C. Clarke who died on Tuesday. Clarke, who was most well known for writing the book which 2001: A Space Odyssey was based on, was also the first person to suggest placing satellites into geosynchronous and geostationary orbits. DirecTV-11 will be placed into such an orbit.

Sea Launch President Rob Peckham said that he "feels good" about the mission success, and that Sea Launch was "proud of [its] role in DirecTV's continued success". Steve O'Neill, the President of Boeing Satellite Systems, said that the launch was "a great ride", and thanked Sea Launch for their "excellent work".

The satellite's initial orbit was confirmed to be 250km x 36484.8km x 0°, differing by only 2.8km from the planned orbit.

Sea Launch have a further four launches planned for this year. In addition, its subsidiary Land Launch will conduct its first launch, using a Zenit-3SLB rocket from area 45/1 at the Baikonur Cosmodrome to launch the AMOS-60 satellite. This is currently scheduled for mid-April. The next Sea Launch mission, with the Galaxy 18 satellite, is scheduled for May.


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Talk:Constitutionality of DNC Florida primary to be decided in appeal

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Osama bin Laden warns European Union in new audio tape

March 20, 2008 A video released by as-Sahab features an audio track that is reputedly of Osama bin Laden, the al-Qaeda leader, entitled "The Response Will Be What You See, Not What You Hear".

In it, bin Laden warns that the recent republication of the controversial Muhammad cartoons is more offensive than the killing of women and children and says that a "reckoning for it will be more severe."

"If there is no check in the freedom of your words, then let your hearts be open to the freedom of our actions," bin Laden said. In the audio, he sought to reason with the "intelligent ones" in the European Union.

In 2005, the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten published a series of cartoons, most of which depicted the Islamic prophet Muhammad. This eventually touched off a series of international protests and boycotts.

In February, tensions flared up again after Danish police arrested three men in an alleged plot to murder cartoonist Kurt Westergaard. Newspapers in Denmark and elsewhere in the EU republished the cartoons in a display of free speech. This was met by protests and boycotts in Muslim nations.


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Welcome
Thanks for experimenting with Wikinews. Your test worked, and has now been reverted or removed. Please use Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles may disrupt the site's working and will be reverted quickly. , welcome to Wikinews! Please refrain from using content pages for testing. Here are a few good links for newcomers on how to edit Wikinews:

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Talk:Zenit rocket launches DirecTV-11 satellite

This makes no sense: "Arthur C. Clarke ... was also the first person to suggest placing satellites into geosynchronous and geostationary orbits. DirecTV-11 will be placed into such an orbit." So, the satellite is going to be both geosynchronous and geostationary? Wow, that's an amazing feat to pull off both at the same time :P! --Nzgabriel | Talk 08:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


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I reverted your change to the Dalai Lama article for two reasons. First, the article is now a couple of days old and only spelling and grammar errors should be corrected. Secondly, Wikinews has an "unwritten rule" that inline links that aren't local, or go to a non-WMF site, are to be avoided as much as possible. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:29, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:NASA: Old Arctic sea ice continues to melt

Nice article! Who submitted this? Would you like to do an article on global warming in your area? Thought that it would be really interesting to start a series on climate change of which this could be a part, as well as my piece on the warming of Wyoming, and encourage other people to contribute as well.

Category - Arctic
Would like to add the category to a number of arctic related news articles to begin a wikinews Arctic portal to complement and support the Wikipedia Arctic portal and wikiproject. Kind Regards [[User:SriMesh|SriMesh]] | [[User talk:SriMesh|<small>talk</small>]] (talk) 01:27, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


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latar territory east Africa
Dear Mr. Mark; I represent as secretary to the Latar project a considerable new voice in Africa. www.Latarstate.net a politics free zone that hold coruption and lawlessness the same. Its current President Mr. Shannon will be visiting Tampa Florida soon, but on personal reasons. The topic is about African cancer known as corruption. That this Territory is aligned with No government todate. That its run by a Board of Governance and is in fact a corporation Held Territory. All relavant political body's, such as the new somali TFG government have been notified. US/UK/UN have legal varifiable notice. the Indepence Declaration can be faxed to wikipedia. The website can show our past year development. Any question your esteemed Organization maybe requested thru adm@latarstate.net Thank You for your attention/wikinews.org Michael Shawn--Michael Shawn - (talk) 13:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


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Stuart, Florida March 20th 2008

Mark Russell at the Lyric Theatre in Stuart, Florida. Russell abandoned his normal, even-handed approach to political humor, to tilt significantly rightward during an evening entertainment that had the largely republican crowd in stitches and his few forays against McCain elicited bows from the boors in the audience. Plenty of time was spend, on the standard targets the problems of the New York governors, both retired and new, and of course plenty of time was spent dissecting the comments of Pastor Wright of Chicago. His wit is still intact and plenty of jokes came at the expense of the still uncounted and largely (his words) disenfranchised Floridian voters.

You just don't count, Florida Democrats.

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UN: Military attacks on Darfur violated international law

March 20, 2008

A United Nations report released Thursday states that recent attacks carried out on four villages in Darfur by the Sudanese military and armed miltias were a violation of international law.

The attacks, which involved aerial bombardment in two of the villages, left a total of 115 people dead and over 30,000 forcibly displaced, according to the report. Damage to civilian property was extensive; homes, schools, and shops were systematically destroyed, vandalized, or set ablaze, food reserves were burned, and livestock was looted. In addition, there were several reports of rape in one village.

The report, issued jointly by the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights and the UN African Union Mission in Darfur, describes attacks on the West Darfur villages of Saraf Jidad, Sirba, Silea and Abu Suruj in January and February. The attacks were part of a Sudanese military campaign to regain control of West Darfur's northern corridor and drive out rebel insurgents from the Justice and Equality Movement (JEM).

The damage to civilians was deemed to be a "deliberate and integral part" of the military strategy. In failing to "distinguish between civilian objects and military objectives", the UN accused the Sudanese military of violating international humanitarian law. The activities of the JEM were also denounced, as they were found to be in violation of the 2004 N'Djamena Ceasefire Agreement.

In Saraf Jidad, which was attacked three times in January, 26 civilians were killed, and almost the entire population was displaced. Witnesses described the attackers as Arab men called Janjaweed, who have had the assistance of the Sudanese government. The men were seen riding horses and camels, and some were in military vehicles. After exchanging fire with the JEM, they entered the town, where they started torching homes and shooting at civilians.

One of the victims from Saraf Jidad, who was around 80 years old, recalled the January 24 attack. "The attackers entered my house," he said. "They were four, in military uniforms. One of them hit my head with the butt of his gun. I fell down. He told me, ‘If you do not all move from here we will burn you alive.' At that, they set my house on fire. I was inside, but managed to escape though I had my arms injured by the fire."

In the other three villages, witnesses reported seeing Antonov planes and military helicopters along with the armed militiamen and Sudanese troops. In Silea, the ground offensive was preceded by three aerial bombardments in different areas of the town. Nearly the entire population of 10,600 was displaced, with some having to go across the border to Chad.

One witness of the Silea attack reported, "An Antonov flew into the area and dropped three bombs ... I saw many houses set ablaze by the bombing. People started running randomly in fear and confusion. I witnessed SAF and Janjaweed looting houses, shops and NGO offices. They would load the stolen goods in their cars and on their camels and horses and take them away."

The village of Abu Suruj was also bombed, but no casualties were reported from this bombing. However, over 75 percent of the town was burnt down by ground troops, and 30 people were killed.

In Sirba, the pattern of attack was similar to that of Abu Suruj. Half of the village was burned down and 45 people were killed. One victim described an encounter with an armed man: "I was holding tight my four-year-old brother; I was scared that the man was going to shoot him. Instead he left. After a few seconds the roof of the house was burning. He saw we were inside and he set the hut on fire to burn us alive. We escaped from the window and ran in different directions."

Witnesses reported acts of sexual violence being committed by the attackers in Sirba, and UN investigators believe at least 10 women were victims of rape. An eyewitness reported four girls being taken into a hut and raped at gunpoint by Sudanese soldiers.

There were also reports of air and ground attacks in Jebel Moon, where many victims had fled following the attacks, but the UN was denied access to the area.

On March 3, the UN met with a West Darfur security official to address their concerns. The official argued that the JEM had taken control of the villages and a deployment of troops was necessary to regain these areas. He also denied that the Sudanese military was involved in the Saraf Jidad attacks, stating they were done by Arab tribes who had nothing to do with the military campaign.


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Basically I read the report (check sources for link) which gave me some quotes and other information that weren't in other news articles. I believe that counts as OR. ~Planoneck~ 17:12, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I have since removed the OR tag. Reading a report probably shouldn't count as OR after all. ~Planoneck~ 10:18, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well personally I think the tag should not have been removed, especially 2 months after publish, but as you were the major contributor to the article I guess that's up to you. Cirt (talk) 11:05, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


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So, was any person/property hurt? Fephisto - (talk) 18:44, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


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Bill restricting Post Office closures defeated in UK Parliament; MP tells Wikinews why she supported the bill

March 20, 2008 Yesterday, the U.K. Labour Party successfully prevented a bill restricting the closure of post offices from being passed, although the governing Labour party only had a majority of 20 due to 19 of its MPs' voting against the party line. One of these was Diane Abbott, who told Wikinews why she voted for the bill.

She told Wikinews: "Post offices are central spaces within a community." She added that they provided invaluable services and a point of contact for vulnerable people. She also claimed they were more important in places like her constituency which has a large number of elderly people.

She added: "they are particularly important [in] places in areas like Hackney where there are fewer bank branches and a large elderly population who rely on the post office to collect their pensions." She was "appalled" to hear of the Post Office closures in her constituency.

The Shadow Minister for Business, Enterprise & Regulatory Reform Alan Duncan of the Conservative Party was also contacted by Wikinews. He directed Wikinews to his website for more information on his opinion. On his website he says that it is "simply not good enough" to allow post offices to close.


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After 9 months, Belgian coalition delivers government

March 20, 2008

After almost nine and a half months, government formation talks in Belgium have resulted in a new government. New Prime Minister Yves Leterme was sworn in by King Albert II today, together with 15 new Ministers and 7 Secretaries of State. After the election on June 10 last year, a confidence vote in the parliament in Brussels on Saturday is expected to confirm the coalition's promise of a government in time before Easter.

In his inaugural speech, Flemish Christian Democrat Leterme replied to criticism from the media and opposition that his government's manifest was vague and that there was no mutual trust between the coalition partners: "We want to increase the faith in the government, not with empty promises, but with specific measures, by investing in health care, the environment, safety and governmental services."

The coalition partners have set out several deadlines for major decisions on which agreement still could not be reached during the formation. By July 15, a council of 'wise men' has to fill the current empty space of the promised constitutional reforms. Yesterday, a survey published in the media showed that the majority of Belgians lacked confidence in the new government, and believed it will collapse within months. On a party convention yesterday, Leterme pledged he would keep his promise to his constituency, vowing to break up the government if more powers are not devolved to the regions.

The record-breaking political stalemate had promised to be difficult from the start, after the Christian Democrats won the elections in Flanders in coalition with the nationalist party N-VA. The cartel promised more regional autonomy for the northern Dutch-speaking two-thirds majority of Belgium. Negotiations promised to be tough in a country where separate parties for the main ideologies exist in each half of the country.

Leader of the separatist N-VA Bart De Wever expressed his disdain about the new government: "There are more Francophone than Dutch-speaking members in this administration, which doesn't respect the proportions: Flanders has two thirds of the population and three quarters of the wealth."

During the political crisis the previous PM Guy Verhofstadt, who recognised his defeat in the elections and had seemingly withdrawn from the political stage, returned to head a caretaker government at the request of the Belgian King. In his inaugural speech today, the new PM expressed his gratefulness to Verhofstadt for his services. After almost 9 years as the Belgian PM, Verhofstadt presented his successor with the keys of his new residence at Rue de la Loi 16/Wetstraat 16 ("16 Law St."), in Brussels.

'Madame No' Joëlle Milquet, leader of the Walloon Christian Democrats, gave her Flemish colleague Leterme a hard time during the coalition talks because she consistently resisted the Flemish demands for regional autonomy. In the new government she becomes the federal Minister of Work, a department that the Flemish nationalists want to devolve to the regional level.

As the largest political fraction, the liberals seem to have weighed heavily on the coalition. They deliver the vice-Premier and the Ministers for Constitutional Reforms, Finances, Economy, Internal and Foreign Affairs, Asylum and Migration, Agriculture, Sciences and Humanitarian Aid. The French-speaking socialists joined the coalition talks late in the process, while the Flemish socialists remain in the opposition, giving an unprecedented asymmetry to the federal government.


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Talk:Bill restricting Post Office closures defeated in UK Parliament; MP tells Wikinews why she supported the bill

I emailed Mrs.Abbott to ask her for a quote. I also contacted Alan Duncan, although his respose directed me to his website. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 20:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Quote I recieved
""Post offices are central spaces within a community. They provide invaluable services and a point of contact for vulnerable people. They are particularly important places in areas like Hackney where there are fewer bank branches and a large elderly population who rely on the post office to collect their pensions. I was appalled to learn that three post offices in my constituency - on Stoke Newington Rd, Blackstock Rd and Lower Clapton Rd - have been blacklisted for closure. Many of my constituents are entirely against these plans and this is why I chose to vote to save the post office."" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous101 (talk • contribs) 20:21, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Confusing
The headline and the article both suggest that this vote will prevent post office closures, but the title says that a bill was passed and the article says a bill was defeated. Which was it? --SVTCobra 20:57, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The article was accurate. Sorry, that was entirely my mistake. I should have checked the headline with more care. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 21:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If that is the case should the word "restricting" be there in the title? Isn't it a bill that would have "allowed" or "facilitated" closures? --SVTCobra 22:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope, the bill was to stop the closures. Current law permits the closures. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 22:09, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I think I got it now. So, Abbott was on the losing side ... thanks for clarifying. --SVTCobra 22:18, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It still seems a little confusing. The Bill was to restrict or prevent the closures (from the headline) of Post Office branches. Dianna Abbott supported this bill. She wished to prevent the closure of PO branches. However, the last line of the first para says that Dianne Abbott told Wikinews why she voted against the Bill. So, by voting against the bill to prevent the closure of PO branches, she really isn't doing the logical thing. Surely, if she wished to prevent closure of PO branches, she should have voted FOR the bill. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.213.85 (talk) 15:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Good Point --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 15:23, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


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National Hockey League news: March 20, 2008

March 20, 2008

There were 7 games played in the National Hockey League on March 19, 2008.

Tampa Bay Lightning @ Buffalo Sabres
put the Lightning on the scoreboard first 2:50 into the first period. put Tampa Bay up by 2 later in the first. Buffalo went on the board with a shorthanded goal by. scored a pair of goals in the second period for the Lightning, giving them a 3 goal lead. Pominville scored his second of the night 5:03 into the third period, then 16 seconds later, scored to bring the Sabres within 1. Buffalo went ahead when scored a natural hat trick. Hecht also added an empty net goal with 6 seconds left in regulation.

left the game after taking a hit into the boards. He did not return, and appeared to be favoring his left arm or shoulder. Ranger had a pair of assists before leaving the game in the third period.

New York Rangers @ New Jersey Devils
scored a power play goal 6:05 into the game for the Devils, which gave them a one goal lead. tied the score with just 4:46 left in regulation, to force overtime. scored the only goal in the shootout, which gave the Rangers the win.

Carolina Hurricanes @ Atlanta Thrashers
scored early in the first for the Hurricanes, putting them ahead. followed up a few minutes later, increasing Carolina's lead to 2. also scored later in the first period. put the Thrashers on the scoreboard early in the second period. The Hurricanes responded less than 2 minutes later when scored his first NHL career goal. brought the Thrashers within 2 goals just about a minute after that. scored a power play goal late in the third for Carolina. added one for Atlanta with under a minute left.

Columbus Blue Jackets @ Detroit Red Wings
broke a scoreless tie for Columbus 7:05 into the second period. In the third period, scored a natural hat trick, three consecutive goals, which put Detroit in a two goal lead late in the game.

Washington Capitals @ Chicago Blackhawks
scored first 1:27 into the first period. 's power play goal put the Blackhawks ahead by 2 3:19 into the first. and each also scored in the opening period, giving Chicago a 4 goal lead going into the first intermission. scored just over halfway through the second period, putting Chicago ahead by 5.

Anaheim Ducks @ Dallas Stars
scored a shorthanded goal over halfway through the first period, giving Dallas their only lead of the game. The Ducks struck back when scored his 7th of the season to tie the score at 1 goal apiece. scored the game winner, a go-ahead goal with 28 seconds left in regulation, which gave the Ducks the win.

Minnesota Wild @ San Jose Sharks
scored his 12th of the season late in the first period, which put the Sharks on the board and in the lead. Minnesota answered back 49 seconds into the second, when put a puck past. put the Sharks back in the lead a few minutes later. scored a power play goal early in the third, tying the score. scored to put San Jose ahead with 2:02 left in regulation. Minnesota was able to re-tie the score when Gaborik scored his second of the night with just 29 seconds left in regulation to force overtime and eventually a shootout. Pavelski and each scored for their respective teams, which tied the shootout in the first round. Roenick scored the deciding shootout goal in the third round, which gave the Sharks their 13th win in 14 games.

was taken off the ice in a stretcher in the second period, after being pushed from behind, losing his balance, and crashing into the boards during a race for the puck in a touch-icing situation. Foster has surgery Thursday to repair damage to a broken leg, and will miss the rest of the 2007-08 season, including the playoffs.

Player of the Day
Today's Player of the Day is Henrik Zetterberg of the Detroit Red Wings. Zetterberg scored a natural hat trick in the third period of Detroit's 3-1 victory over the Columbus Blue Jackets. He had 6 shots on goal and a couple take aways. He scored the game-tying and game-winning goals.

For information on the selection process of the Player of the Day, see this page.


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