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Kevin Pietersen MBE chosen as new England Cricket captain

August 6, 2008

Today the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) announced that Kevin Pietersen MBE has been chosen to be the new England Cricket captain.

"I'm very thrilled and excited to have been given the opportunity to captain England," Pietersen told the BBC. He said that he would approach his captaincy like he approached his batting.

Michael Vaughan, Pietersen's predecessor, resigned Sunday in what the BBC has described as a "shock." During the news conference, the new captain paid tribute to his predecessor and said that the last few days had been an emotional time.

Teams for upcoming games
The ECB has announced the teams for upcoming games.

England squad for final Test match against South Africa at The Oval, starting on Thursday 7 August:

 * Kevin Pietersen (captain), James Anderson, Ian Bell, Ravi Bopara, Stuart Broad, Tim Ambrose, Alastair Cook, Paul Collingwood, Andrew Flintoff, Steve Harmison, Monty Panesar, Ryan Sidebottom, Andrew Strauss.

England squad for Twenty20 & ODI's against South Africa:

 * Kevin Pietersen (captain), James Anderson, Ian Bell, Ravi Bopara, Stuart Broad, Alastair Cook, Paul Collingwood, Andrew Flintoff, Samit Patel, Matt Prior, Owais Shah, Ryan Sidebottom, Graeme Swann, Chris Tremlett, Luke Wright.


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Talk:World's smallest snake discovered in Barbados

Should this be a brief/short? —Calebrw (talk) 13:52, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Harkishan Singh Surjeet, Indian politician dies at 92

India became independent in 1947, not 1950. 1950 was when it became a republic


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Death toll rises to eleven in K2 mountain avalanche

August 4, 2008 The Associated Press (AP) and CNN reported about midday UTC that the death toll in the Sunday's accident on K2 has risen to eleven.

Two Dutch climbers have been rescued by helicopter, the AP also said. CNN reports that two of the people killed were climbing up the mountain in an attempt to assist others.

AP says that about two dozen climbers began the accent of K2, the world's second-highest mountain, Friday after the weather had cleared. Climbers are listed as from the Netherlands, South Korea, Italy, Norway, France, Nepal, Serbia, Pakistan and Ireland.

Trouble began on Sunday when several climbers decided to turn back citing rope placement problems. CNN reports the group was climbing in two teams and both were descending from near the summit when an a large chuck of ice fell sweeping three people off the mountain. The ice triggered an avalanche which caused confusion within the party.

Wilco Van Rooijen, one of the two rescued Dutch climbers, spoke to AP via phone. He blames poor planning in addition to the avalanche.

"Everything was going well to Camp Four, and on summit attempt, everything went wrong," Van Rooijen said.

He told AP that a low-cloud bank caused whiteout on the mountain, but he chose to begin his decent from the area near the summit.

"There was a Korean guy hanging upside down," Van Rooijen told AP. "There was a second Korean guy who held him with a rope but he was also in shock and then a third guy was there also, and they were trying to survive but I had also to survive."

One stranded climber, Marco Confortola, an Italian who spoke with his brother by phone, described the events as hellish.

"Up there it was hell. During the descent, beyond 8,000 meters (26,000 feet), due to the altitude and the exhaustion I even fell asleep in the snow and when I woke up I could not figure out where I was," Confortola told the ANSA news agency.

A helicopter rescue for Confortola had to be delayed due to poor weather. He told his brother that he was able to walk down to the base camp.

CNN reports that this is the deadliest accident on K2 since records were kept in 1939. 66 people — not counting those in the latest incident — have died on the mountain since then.


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Comments:Sixteen policemen killed in suspected terrorist attack in Xinjiang, China

I do not know if the fact that there is a majority of muslims in the area is worth pointing out without hinting towards the develop the west campaign or XPCC. The fact is that they are not really predominant in the region, using the word correctly. A majority is still true and it might be important to be more accurate about this issue and just mention that the han shinese migration into the area might be a motive for the terrorists.

excuse my english, it is not my native tongue.

There is no excuse to justify any form of terrorist attack
Personally, I think there is no excuse or reason to justify this barbaric attack on local police force. Those who were behind this attack will be brought to justice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.181.51.91 (talk) 00:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

naturally an explanation is not a justification. Background to any conflict is important this one in particular since most people are not as aware of the state of Xinjiang province as the tibetan allthough I do not imply that the situation is in it's entirety all the same. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.70.144.130 (talk) 04:51, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Misleading title
From Bloomberg, quote "Xinhua's English-language report said police suspected the assault was a terrorist attack, although the agency's Chinese-language report, which was released two hours later, described the incident as a violent crime." So what was it suspected terrorist attack or violent crime, Wikinews should really be more careful when it comes to Chinese government sources, especially as here there is no independent news coverage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.116.244.202 (talk) 22:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


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American actor Morgan Freeman in serious condition after car accident

August 4, 2008 American Oscar-winning actor Morgan Freeman is in reported to be in serious condition but good spirits in a Tennessee hospital following a single car accident in Tallahatchie County, Mississippi in the Mississippi Delta. The 71-year-old actor was flown to the hospital by air ambulance with injuries to one arm.

Freeman, the Associated Press reports, "has a broken arm, broken elbow and minor shoulder damage, but is in good spirits," according to a statement from Donna Lee, Freeman's publicist.

Reports say that Freeman was driving Demaris Meyer — the owner of the 1997 Nissan Maxima — when the car flipped over two or three times around 11:30 p.m. Sunday night. Meyer's condition has not been released. Meyers is reported to be a 48 year old family friend visiting from Memphis.

According to reports, Freeman over-corrected the vehicle when he may have dozed and began to go off the highway, causing the car to flip two or three times before landing in a ditch. The accident occurred on Highway 32 just north of Ruleville, Mississippi not far from where Freeman currently resides.

Clay McFerrin, editor of the Sun Sentinel in Charleston, told the Associated Press he arrived at the accident scene soon after the accident. "They had to use the jaws of life to extract him from the vehicle," McFerrin told the Associated Press. "He was lucid, conscious. He was talking, joking with some of the rescue workers at one point."

Freeman was one of the stars of the recent film The Dark Knight and is currently being treated at Memphis Regional Medical Center along with Meyer. Spokeswoman Kathy Stringer says that "Freeman is in a serious condition," but did not comment further. The hospital, known locally as "The Med" is an acute care facility for up to 150 patients.

According to Sgt. Ben Williams of the Mississippi Highway Patrol, "there's no indication that either alcohol or drugs were involved" in causing the accident. He also said that both Freeman and Meyer were wearing their safety belts.


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US presidential candidates are statistically tied in the polls

August 4, 2008 The two leading United States presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain are statistically tied according to the latest Day to Day Politics Poll Average. Both the 7-day average and the 10-day average show that the difference between the two candidates is within the margin of error. Barack Obama is polling at 45.8% and John McCain is at 45.1%.

The lead for Obama has dropped by 4% in the last week, two weeks after his trip to Europe. There are about 4 weeks until the Democratic and Republican Conventions and about 9% of the public is still undecided, which is a 2% drop since last week.

The Day to Day Politics Poll Average for the past week used the Gallup Tracking poll, the Rasmussen Tracking poll, the CNN poll, and the USA Today/Gallup poll.

The battleground states of Florida and Ohio, are also showing no statistically significant lead for either of the two candidates. However, Pennsylvania shows a statistically significant lead for Obama. These three states have been key battleground states in the past two elections with the winner of two of these three states winning the White House.

Also, according to a new national poll, white workers give Obama the edge by 10 percent (47% for Obama, 37% for McCain), even though 1/6th of this voting group is undecided. Both parties agree that this group of voters will be a key voting bloc for victory. With 92 days left until the General Election, both parties will be campaigning heavily in the three major battleground states mentioned above and among this particular voting group.


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This should no longer be considered breaking. --SVTCobra 18:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure it should. We don't know who the female washis condition or hers. There is also a statement expected soon from authorities. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Someone needs to read WN:SG, 12:00 a.m. is an invalid time. It should be "noon" or "midnight". --Brian McNeil / talk 18:19, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

When using the 12-hour format, morning hours before noon and after midnight are designated as "a.m." - both lowercase with periods; hours after noon and before midnight are "p.m." Again, lowercase with periods. Exception: times of exactly 12 noon are called "noon" and 12 midnight are called "midnight" - neither is referred to as "12:00 a.m." or "12:00 p.m."
 * ✅. I thought it looked funny, but for whatever reason I could not put my finger on it. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:31, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Unprecedented review to be held on Qantas after third emergency in two weeks

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Ah the old cutting costs by skimping on maintenance issue comes back to bite another corporation. You'd think they'd have learned by now. Alas they never seem to. That's why government regulations have to be implemented. Always better to show a bigger quarterly profit and increase dividends to the stockholders than do their job right. Happens everywhere unfortuantely. 207.69.139.156 18:50, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


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Talk:Unprecedented review to be held on Qantas after third emergency in two weeks

Question; how can an airline be described as having 'never had a fatality' yet in the next line say 'it's last fatality was in 1951'? Doesn't 'never' mean 'NO' fatalities?

 * Read it again. It never had a fatality on a jet aircraft. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


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It was near Charleston, Ms not Ruleville, Ms
 * According to news reports, it happened on Highway 32, north of Ruleville. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 19:03, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

This story inflates the severity of injuries since the Jaw of Life was needed and an air ambulance was used. Mr Freeman has broken bones in one arm and routine surgery will be done. The owner of the car is a friend, Demaris Meyer,age 48 of Memphis, TN. She was treated for minor injuries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.80.4.238 (talk) 14:51, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

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is very helpful.. —81.104.226.24 (talk) 13:26, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "margon freeman is the best"
margon freeman is the best —67.79.101.135 (talk) 14:17, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


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Comments:Potential Wikia mass exodus

Yeah just what we need.....more pop-up ads and other crap on our webpages. Since I have dial-up and run Win 2000, animated display ads either crash my computer or delay content downloads which really frosts me royally. For sites that are supposed to be 'user driven', why not let the USERS decide the issue rather than risk a stampede of users to other sites or creating their own? I thought Wiki was supposed to be an ALTERNATIVE to all the other websites out there. Now it's becoming, like so many others, just another website full of annoying ads. Sad really. Oh well. 207.69.139.156 19:06, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

ugly
I swear - every time I look at wikia it becomes uglier. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:27, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

A real headache
I speak from bitter experience when I say that many, many people are not happy with Wikia at the moment. The community of Illogicopedia (of which I was a founder back in January of last year) has recently moved from Wikia to new servers due to ever-increasing bureaucratic decisions going on at Wikia. Unfortunately, it's not as easy as just forking the content and closing the old wiki. Under tedious licensing laws Wikia can legally keep a copy of the wiki on their servers (even if the original community object to it): and you'd better believe they are doing. They want to keep the old wiki open and hope a new community comes along to adopt it. However, even if the site name were to be changed, the content would still redundant as the community and all articles are now housed at illogicopedia.org.

Anybody with a shred of respect for the opinions of Illogicopedia's community would just close the old wiki down and create a redirect. But why the heck should they respect a group of people who are no longer with them? A little thing called 'being nice people and not robotic drones with potato cut responses who are only in it for themselves when it boils down to it'. Though their responses to queries are relatively rapid, the whole thing is wrapped up in a bureaucratic ball that leaves many people, not least me, with a major headache.

I may be preaching to the converted but be warned: Wikia is not all it promises to be. I'm disappointed: we believed that they would be an honest wikifarm that makes decisions based on what is morally right. Though they are well within their legal rights to keep our old wiki open, they certainly have cheesed a lot of people off.

I should have known better, though: there is plenty of precedent. Let me state that the New Monaco skin which was applied across the board may benefit some communities, and good luck to them. However, the decision of actually applying the skin should have been left up to individual wiki communities, who, after all, know what's best for themselves. In Illogicopedia's case, Wikia's decision overrules the say-so of the administrators who care about the wiki, visit and edit it day in day out. They are in a much better position to decide what is best for their community, not some totally detached overlords who think they know what's best.

In summary: if you do wish to start a wiki, create your own Mediawiki server or heck, even go to Editthis. But for goodness' sake, if you decide to go with Wikia please, please read the licenses and terms and conditions carefully and understand you are selling your soul to the devil. -- Hindleyite (talk) 17:37, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikia seems to hate infoboxes
Many wikis i know of, and most of my own projects on Wikia (wich i left), are using infoboxes for the layout of data about charaters, objects, and all. Per exemple, this i the case of gamming wikis and even is with MemoryAlpha. Wikia has long been trying to reserve the infoboxes space for their own usage. First they introduced a square add that was floating right at the top of most pages. Theirs servers where inserting it before any content that admins or users where adding to pages.

Now, Wikia still do this but they changed from floated content to an whole column that reduce the size of the content space greatly (coupled with their new fixed width that is). Now any table that is supposed to clearly present tabular data are horizontally squished and harder to read.

Some said that Wikia want to be better viewed on smartphones, handhelds and gaming consoles. But a fixed width isn't the right answer.

My main reason to leave Wikia wasn't really the new skin (but that was before testing it out). I decided that Wikia service wasn't appealling to me anymore when their changed their term of use so that local admins can't remove from the UI things we think are harmfull to our specific wiki using CSS or JS.

But, i think it's perfectly normal for a free commercial service to have that sort of things in their terms of use. When i've first comed to Wikia, all wikis were still using the old Monobook skin (the old Wikipedia look). I registered on Wikia after taking to time to read their terms of use and many other page like that. I then aggreed to use the service because it seemed to fit my needs.

So now, after Wikia made a lot of changes to it's service, it's doesn't fit what i expect to gather a community on any subject i could like. So i left Wikia. All alone. I mean, i can't move my projects elsewhere and had to left them in their hands. I know there is others wiki farm out there but if i would copy my projects there, i would be all alone and no one would ever comme to join me since Wikia wikis always comes higher up in Google results.

So, i'm in for a break of wikis. I have accounts on Wikipedia (in both french, my first language, and english) but it's really not the same thing. On Wikipedia i mainly only correct spelling and fix code error when i see some.

So, i think i'll now have more time to work on some personnal projects and publish articles on my blog (in french) from time to time. TulipVorlax (talk) 16:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

"Time to Turn Evil" mode on.
Inspired by the awesome XKCD strip: http://xkcd.com/792/

Wikia decided that they are big enough to pull this "time to turn evil" stunt and rake in the profits.

Their agression on the hosted communities is based on the assumption they can get away with it because now the hosted wikis are hooked deep enough to not leave.

Unfortunately, unless the mass exodus really happens (and IMO it won't because they really are hooked deep enough) wikia will get away with "murder".

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Comments:Wikimania 2008: MediaWiki use in the U.S. Department of State

ZeeQuiz is a fine fun way to engage people and drive them to various key page areas.


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Talk:US presidential candidates are statistically tied in the polls

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The article needs more meat. That is just the plain and simple truth. The Mind's Eye (talk) 20:17, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


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American comedian Bernie Mac has pneumonia

August 5, 2008 🇺🇸 The Associated Press reported Sunday that American comedian is responding well to treatment for pneumonia in a Chicago, Illinois hospital.

The report said that the pneumonia is not related to the inflammatory lung disease Mac has, which has been in remission since 2005.

Bernie Mac's representative told  that Internet rumors of critical illness and even death are untrue.

"Bernie Mac is still alive and being treated in a Chicago hospital for and is expected to make a full recovery," said Danica Smith.


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Talk:Death toll rises to eleven in K2 mountain avalanche

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 * ✅ – Juliancolton  | Talk 00:20, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Now Category:Gilgit-Baltistan. --Pi zero (talk) 22:41, 12 December 2014 (UTC)


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Talk:Heikki Kovalainen wins 2008 Hungarian Grand Prix

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Talk:Boxing: Joshua Clottey of Ghana wins IBF welterweight title

Fact-checked and published
The major disparity between the sources was Clottey's fight against Antonio Margarito. One source said he broke both hands, the other said he broke a knuckle. Leaning towards the BBC I worded it as he broke one hand, his right. --SVTCobra 23:43, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:US presidential candidates are statistically tied in the polls

Rather than vote this year, I'm going to buy a gun.

 * be carefull Obama might flip flop on the gun rights again.--66.229.12.186 00:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

 * why you would waste your time posting the above tripe is beyond me. you grossly oversimpligy any candidate, and any issue with such feeble-mindedness, and add nothing to the discussion.  - Imind (talk) 19:17, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I think it would be more NPOV and less presumptive if it were routinely stressed that these are major-party candidates, not the only candidates in the race. One of the main reasons third parties rarely get anywhere is the base assumption in reporting media that they don't have a chance and therefore aren't worth mentioning. Because the public is constantly presented with "THE two candidates", the idea that votes for a third party are wasted is constantly reinforced. (Of course, nobody is served by this more than the established "two-party system," which promotes an illusory "us-versus-them", "neck-and-neck dead heat" every time to convince the voting public they have some sort of choice. The only wasted vote, in my opinion, is one for a major party.  That said, voting may not even actually matter any more anyway.)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.238.26 (talk) 14:42, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It doesn't. People like Fox news will publish a result before they've finished counting the ballots. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Obama Mccain
According to this short article America belives they both have a good chance at winning the election. The people that voted for mccain have there reasons why they did and why they picked mccain and not Obama, and i am sure the people who picked Obama had there reasons why they picked him and not mccain.I have heard among me some reasons why some do not pick Obama. But what people do not understand is what he says in his speeches to correct what some citizens call wrong on his behalf and no one will allow that and i think if someone is trying to prove a point you should always listen because you would want that in return and if the citzens had listened and took this into consideration we wouldnt have people against Obama and the same goes for Mccain the citzens need to listen to both sides and not immeiditley choosing one. You see we have two smart and intelligent men that know how to stand up for what they belive in and correct their wrongs so for that citzens should give something in return a second chance for both of them. i wish them both good luck. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.217.131.237 (talk) 17:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


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Microsoft study proves six degrees of separation

August 5, 2008 According to data released by Microsoft, you really are connected by approximately six degrees with the average person on this planet, the Washington Post reported Saturday.

Eric Horvitz and Jure Leskovec set out to prove a popular theory, and they did, almost.

"What's the distance between you and any random person on the planet? That's the kind of result we were seeking," Microsoft researcher Eric Horvitz told ABC's Good Morning America.

"We've been able to put our finger on the social pulse of human connectivity — on a planetary scale — and we've confirmed that it's indeed a small world." Microsoft researcher Eric Horvitz told Agence France-Presse. "Over the next few decades, new kinds of computing applications, from smart networks to automated translation systems, will help make the world even smaller, with closer social connections and deeper understanding among people."

Multiple press agencies are reporting that Microsoft's research on over 30 billion text messages from June 2006 averages to 6.6 degrees between any two people on Earth.

ABC News reports that the 30 billion messages were sent between 180 million people. This equates to roughly half of the instant messaging traffic during that month.

"To me, it was pretty shocking," Horvitz told The Washington Post. "What we're seeing suggests there may be a social connectivity constant for humanity. People have had this suspicion that we are really close. But we are showing on a very large scale that this idea goes beyond folklore."

According to the BBC, the concept of "six degrees of separation" or "Small world phenomenon" was the product of research done by American Stanley Milgram in 1967 when he mailed letters from himself to a Boston stock broker. Instead of mailing them direct, he instead sent 160 people in Kansas the letters, asking them to send them to someone who might know the person in Boston. It took an average of six mailings, thus six degrees of separation. Research done in 2006 reported a 95% failure rate in these tests.

The theory was popularized in the 1990s when college students would play a trivia game trying to link actor Kevin Bacon with any one other answer. The person to do so in the shortest number of links won.

In 2003 another similar experiment was undertaken, this time via e-mail. 24,163 volunteers tried to send a message to one of 18 people all over the world. The Post reports that only 384 of the 24,163 chains were connected. That equates to about 98.5% failure rate. An estimate was made at 5 to 7 degrees of separation.

"To our knowledge, this is the first time a planetary-scale social network has been available to validate the well-known 'six degrees of separation' finding by Travers and Milgram," the researchers said according to The Washington Post.

The research found that 78% per connected by 7 steps or less, but some were connected by as many as 29 degrees of separation, the Post said. The most common Microsoft Messenger user is in America, Europe or Asia.


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Comments:Russian novelist Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn dies aged 89

Democracy lost it greatest son and Communism lost it's greatest enemy. R.I.P. --66.229.12.186 08:27, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

RIP Fephisto (talk) 16:25, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:China to establish protest zones for Olympics

This may look funny but it is the very first step the Chinese government takes to improve their human right status further. I am very glad and I will be very interested to see their human right status improving.


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Comments:NASA denies rumors of finding life on Mars

The fact that NASA reafermed that they found ice on Mars is nothig new. When we already had reports of pictures of ice on Mars why should reconfirmation be anything to celebrate? When we get allien life landing on earth we can write Ray Bradbury.

 * a picture of a unicorn is not the same thing as a real one. - Imind (talk) 19:44, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * the parent post hits the nail on its head. also, this article is not concerned with the confirmation of water, but rather with the rumors this weekend which were due to (assumed) perchlorate findings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.89.0.118 (talk) 04:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

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(crosses fingers) little green men, come on... Fephisto (talk) 15:25, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

 * "un-earthlike soil". i cannot wait to read about this.  - Imind (talk) 19:50, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

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I think the white house was being briefed regarding the possibility of terraforming Mars and such, not aliens. There are no aliens on Mars. They are somewhere else though... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mephiles602 (talk • contribs) 15:47, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

YEAH MY COMMENT IS THAT IF THERE HAPPEN TO EVER BE LIFE ON MARS AND IS HABITABLE THEN I WOULD REALLY LOVE  TO MOVE THERE, CAUSE THIS PLANET CALLED EARTH REALLY SUCKS. UNFORTUNALLY THE PEOPLE LIVING IN IT IS WHAT MAKES THIS PLANET A SHITBALL. PS NO MORE COMMENTS.


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Vitamin C can help prevent cancer say the National Institutes of Health

August 5, 2008 Vitamin C can help cut the spread of cancer and tumours by half, according to United States researchers who tested on mice.

Researchers at the National Institutes of Health injected doses of vitamin C into four grams per kilo of body weight into mice with pancreatic, brain and ovarian cancers, which started a destructive chain reaction with the cancer cells. The vitamin, also known as ascorbate, caused high amounts of hydrogen peroxide in the body, which killed cancer cells.

The vitamin was given in doses as the body does not absorb more than a set amount of vitamin C normally. Following successful tests on mice, scientists believe that treating cancer with vitamin C could soon be tested on humans.

Treating cancer with vitamin C was considered in the 1970s by American scientist Linus Pauling, who won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1954. However, it involved taking the vitamin orally instead of injection, and so did not have the desired effect.


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South Korean scientists claim they have cloned pet dog

August 5, 2008

South Korean scientists have confirmed that they have completed the first ever commercial cloning of a dog to take place.

Bernann McKinney, who ordered the cloning for US$50,000, has said that she is pleased with the result of the cloning. "They are perfectly the same as their daddy. I am in heaven here. I am a happy person," she said in a press conference delivered earlier today. The regular charge will be up to US$150,000, but was discounted for the first customer.

McKinney continued the press conference by saying that "Booger [the dog] had a kindness in his heart and I believe that kindness is something that can be, I don't want to use the word reproduced, but the best way Dr Lee explained it is we can give him his body, you are going to give him the love and environment to recreate the original Booger's personality."

McKinney ordered five copies of her dog Booger, which she describes as her 'partner' and 'friend'.

RNL Bio, which performed the cloning said that "we commemorate the world's first commercial cloning of a pet dog, Booger," on their website. They also stated that anyone interested in getting their pet cloned should contact them.


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Known gorilla population more than doubled
125,000 western lowland gorillas have been found in isolated forests of the Republic of Congo, according to a census by the Wildlife Conservation Society. The number more than doubles the present estimated population of 50-100 thousand. The population resides in two areas covering just 18,000 square miles, living in densities previously thought to be not possible.

President of the Wildlife Conservation Society, Steve Sanderson, says that this does not mean the gorillas are out of danger and they are still vulnerable to Ebola and humans, who target them for bush meat.

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NBA: Paul Pierce handcuffed in Las Vegas
Boston Celtics player Paul Pierce, the MVP of the 2008 NBA Finals, was handcuffed by police in Las Vegas, Nevada about 3:00 a.m. Sunday during a traffic stop. A spokesman for the Las Vegas Police Department said that was initially hostile, though didn't say that this was the cause for the handcuffs. Multiple news agencies that report that Pierce passed both a sobriety test and a Breathalyzer. Neither Pierce nor the Celtics have released a comment.

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Woman throws lasagna at husband
A woman threw a frozen lasagna at her husband. This happened in Atlantic Beach, Florida. The woman has been charged with domestic battery after throwing frozen lasagna at her husband. The two were arguing when she picked up the frozen lasagna and tossed it at her husband striking him. The husband said his wife struck him across the face many times before throwing the frozen lasagna at him hitting him in the head. The woman admitted to officers that she had thrown the frozen lasagna at her husband to hit him in the head. The husband was arrested for a violation of a court injunction.

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Police rescue two swimmers in Lake Michigan
Two people have been saved from Lake Michigan said Evanston Police in Illinois. Four officers saved the two people from the lake. This happened late Sunday. One officer had swallowed too much water and has been treated at a local hospital police had said on Monday. At Lee Street Beach at 11:57 p.m. close to midnight. Police could hear people yelling for help around the metal breakwater police had said. Police could not see the swimmers due to how dark it was outside. As police went into the water with rescue disks to try and save the people from the water. Officers then found a man that was 50 yards off shore that had been taken into the breakwater by the large waves said police. Police then threw a rescue disk towards his direction and the man grabbed on and was pulled safely to shore, also another women was rescued.

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World's smallest snake discovered in Barbados
The world's smallest snake, the Leptotyphlops carlae, has been discovered in Barbados by Dr Blair Hedges, an evolutionary scientist from Pennsylvania State University. The Leptotyphlops carlae is the smallest of the 3100 known species of snakes. The species is thinner than a piece of spaghetti and is about 10cm long, small enough to curl up on a United States quarter.

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The article should have read, "South Korean scientists clone Boogers" ;D. Sorry for the kindergarten-esque joke. Fephisto (talk) 15:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

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Is she going to keep the one with the best personality and get rid of the other four? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.45.136.225 (talk) 18:27, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * She'll proabably keep them, considering the amount of money she she spent on cloning Anonymous101talk 18:54, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Joyce McKinney
Perhaps there should be a mention that Bernaan McKinney is actually a fake name; this is actually Joyce McKinney, an escaped kidnapper and sexual assaulter (wow, that sounds clumsy... I know I can phrase that better, but Iv only just woken!) from the UK? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/11/booger_babe_blurts/ Aawood (talk) 06:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


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John Gotti Jr. arrested on murder charges

August 5, 2008

, son of convicted mobster, was arrested early Tuesday morning.

Multiple sources say that that Gotti was arrested by the FBI at his home on, in New York state.

The Associated Press reported Tuesday afternoon that the 44-year-old Gotti has been indicted along with five other men in connection with 3 murders and cocaine trafficking.

According to the Associated Press, the indictment "says he was involved in the slayings of George Grosso in Queens, NY, in 1988; Louis DiBono, who was killed in the parking garage of the in Manhattan in 1990; and Bruce John Gotterup, killed in 1991 at the  in, . It also accuses him of possession and trafficking of more than 5 kilograms of cocaine."

The elder Gotti — who died in prison in 2002 at age 61 — was convicted for ordering the killing of DiBono, among other crimes.

A second indictment charges Gotti's associates. John A. Burke, 47, who is in prison in New York; James V. Cadicamo, 33, of Tampa; David D'Arpino, 33, of Howard Beach, NY; Michael D. Finnerty, 43, of Oceanside, NY; and Guy T. Peden, 47, of Wantagh, NY are all charged in connection with the murders, the Associated Press reports.

ABC News reported that Gotti was photographed and fingerprinted at the FBI's Long Island Resident Agency in, , and taken to the federal court house in Manhattan for arraignment on Monday afternoon. The New York Times reports that Gotti will be taken to, Florida arraignment in United States District Court, where Tuesday's news conference was held.

The younger Gotti pleaded guilty to racketeering charges including bribery, extortion, gambling and fraud in 1999. He was sentenced to 77 months in prison and was released in 2005 with credit for good behavior.

Since then Gotti was tried three times over an alleged plot to kidnap founder and radio personality. Trials in September of 2005 and in March and September of 2006 each resulted in hung juries. Prosecutors said they believed Gotti to be guilty, but lacking fresh evidence, they decided to no longer pursue the case.

"I can't wait for the day until he gets three hots and a cot and I'll pay for that expense," Sliwa told ABC News. "The third time that he walked out, he gave me a sly grin as he was able to go home to his family in Oyster Bay, his Ponderosa. But I swore then that until the ends of time that until he goes to hell without an asbestos suit that I'd see him in court again and that wish has come true."

"They tried very hard to convict him up here. They spared no resources and it didn't work," Charles Carnesi, Gotti's attorney told the Associated Press. "It's tragic for him and his family to have to continually go through this. It's almost laughable."

Another lawyer for Gotti, Seth Ginsberg told the New York Times that "We’re confident that there is no strength to the allegations and that he will prevail once again."


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Microsoft didn't prove anything, it just showed the theory to be fairly accurate in some samples. Sorry, can't think what to rename the article, but I think it should be renamed. Wikidsoup (talk) 16:23, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

 * "Reinforces" or "Supports" instead of "Proves" would probably do fine. Though considering the failings of the other studies in this, it's certainly closer to proof than we've ever gotten before.141.109.2.3 11:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Can someone please rewrite this article, it is very hard to understand IRCarlos (talk) 22:19, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Two points; what exactly constitutes a "degree"? If a "degree" is a person, then the article and title should be rewritten as "Six People by Seperation", no? 2008-11-10 T22:12 Z-8 76.170.113.111 06:13, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The concept comes from Stanley Milgram's research. The use of "degree" has remained the preferred term ever since, including in popular culture. No, the article should not be retitled. Even if you were right, it shouldn't this long after publication. --SVTCobra 06:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

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this is news? - Imind (talk) 19:27, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Not really hard news. I thought it was going to turn into something more than it did. —Calebrw (talk) 20:01, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

 * No, this is not news. I recomend it to be promptly deleted. - 71.233.85.164 23:23, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

 * How is it "not news"? I imagine you must have a pretty narrow definition of news. --SVTCobra 02:24, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

 * because pneumonia is hardly newsworthy, IMO. no offense meant to the author of the piece, of course, whomever that may be.  - Imind (talk) 17:59, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

 * um...RIP - Imind (talk) 15:30, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

 * oops... pneumonia isn't usually this serious. Sorry. - 71.233.85.164 19:17, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

The point here is not that someone died of pneumonia, but that someone who is known and appreciated. Bernie is a talented comedian with a number of film credits to his name. He will be missed by many. THAT is why it is news —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.251.244.246 (talk) 04:06, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

 * the questions of its "newsworthiness" were asked before his death. prior to that, it was simply a case of pneumonia. -Imind (talk) 16:56, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

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I know this situation isn't funny, but I can't help but chuckle wryly at the conversation here. I'm sure a variation of the content on this talk page played out in many people's heads when they read this article and others like it. And probably in the head of Bernie Mac and his family as well when they wondered why the media was even bothering to publish this story. It was a surprising death, and I don't think that anyone saw it coming from a simple case of treated pneumonia. Gopher65talk 04:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


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Talk:Kevin Pietersen MBE chosen as new England Cricket captain

This seems to be two articles in one: teams for next games and Kevin Pietersen MBE chosen as new England Cricket captain. Anonymous101talk 20:24, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
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English Football: Manchester United News for August 6, 2008

August 6, 2008 English football team Manchester United's star striker, Wayne Rooney, will likely miss the opening match of the English Premier League, England's top-level football league, on August 17, the BBC reported Tuesday.

The 22-year-old Rooney, who also plays for English National Team, contracted a mystery illness on United's pre-season tour of Africa.

"I doubt Wayne will be fit for the start of the season," United boss Sir Alex Ferguson told the BBC. "It's a virus he picked up in Nigeria and it's not a nice one. He's not been back in training yet."

The striker position, also known as forward in some countries, is the closest offensive position to the opponent's goal and is more likely score goals than other position. Rooney played in 43 matches last season, scoring 18 goals with seven assists.

With absence of Rooney at striker, Argentine Carlos Tévez is the only fit veteran striker available for United. Portuguese striker Nani is suspended, while Anderson is playing for Brazil in the Olympics. Fraizer Campbell and Frenchman Louis Saha, both largely untested in the Premier League, remain two options, as does the signing of an outside player, such as, the BBC reports, Tottenham Hotspur's striker Dimitar Berbatov.

Ferguson also said Tuesday that Portuguese winger Cristiano Ronaldo will be staying at Manchester United, and not transferring to Real Madrid, as has been reported, both in the media and on blogs this summer.

"The matter is closed now," Ferguson said Tuesday. "He is a Manchester United player — it's finished. He'll be playing here next season believe me. It's finished."

Whether or not Ronaldo does indeed stay at United, he will have to remain on the sidelines until an ankle injury heals. The BBC reports it will be September or later before Ronaldo is playing fit.

The winger position, a type of midfielder, is the middle position in relation to the opponent's goal, behind strikers, but ahead of defenders. Wingers typically play toward the left and right sides of the pitch. Ronaldo score 42 goals in 48 appearances last season, the most of any United player.

United has two more friendlies this pre-season, facing Juventus and Portsmouth on August 6 and August 10. Manchester United, 2008 winners of both the Premier League and the UEFA Champions League, starts their season against Newcastle United.


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United States charges eleven in credit card fraud case

August 5, 2008 The United States government officially charged 11 individuals today for the theft and sale of over 40 million credit and debit card numbers. The card numbers were stolen from nine US retailers including Barnes & Noble.

The indictment includes computer intrusion, conspiracy, identity theft and fraud. This case is suspected to be the largest computer hacking and identity theft case ever to be prosecuted by the US Justice Department. The 11 people charged include three from the US, three from the Ukraine, two from China, and one each from Estonia and Belarus. The remaining person is only known by an alias, and his/her place of origin is not known.

The reported "ringleader" of the group was Albert "Segvec" Gonzalez, of Miami, Florida. If Gonzales, who is in custody in New York because of another computer hacking charge, is convicted of the numerous indictments, he could face life in prison.

According to the Justice Department, after hacking into wireless computer networks of the victim companies, the group would install a sniffer program to identify card numbers and steal information required for use of the numbers. The compiled information was then stored in computer servers owned by the group.

The credit card numbers were then sold online to the customers who would "cash out" the numbers by scanning them on to the magnetic strips of blank cards.

The funds earned by the group from the sale of the numbers were either transferred to internet currencies where the money was laundered, or transferred directly to eastern European banks.

The nine companies that were stolen from are T.J. Maxx, Marshalls, Barnes & Noble, J's Wholesale Club, OfficeMax, Boston Market, Sports Authority, DSW and Forever 21. Several of these retailers belong to TJX Companies.

"They used sophisticated computer hacking techniques, that would allow them to breach security systems and install programs that gathered enormous quantities of personal financial data, which they then allegedly either sold to others or used themselves," said US Attorney General Michael Mukasey.


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Magnitude 6.0 earthquake in China kills three, injures dozens

August 6, 2008

An earthquake with a magnitude 6.0 that struck the area of Southern Qinghai, China on Tuesday, has killed at least three people and injured nearly 40 others.

The United States Geological Survey (USGS) recorded the quake at 9:49 hours UTC (5:49 a.m. at the epicenter). The China Earthquake Networks Centre considers it an aftershock from the May 12 Sichuan earthquake.

A bridge on a national highway was reported to be damaged, and communications were reported to have been severed. At least 3,200 homes were severely damaged or destroyed.

The quake struck 45 kilometers (25 miles) northwest of Guangyuan, Sichuan, near the town of Yaodu. It struck in the same area of China as the one on May 12 that killed at least 69,207 people and wounded another 374,468, according to the English language edition of the People's Online Daily.

Data released by the USGS shows that the epicenter was near the G109 highway which connects Lhasa in the south and Xining and Lanzhou in the northwest, a distance of 2,020 km (1,255 mi), according to Google Maps China.

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British schools to inform parents of overweight children

August 5, 2008 Starting in September, British schools will inform parents of their child's weight in an attempt to deal with the growing issue of obesity, according to an announcement by the (DoH).

Nearly 23% of children aged 4-5 are overweight or obese, with that figure growing to nearly 32% for children aged 10-11. Standard procedures in schools involve weighing and measuring children in schools to determine their (BMI). The information is passed on to the National Health Service (NHS) to determine the extent of obesity in the area.

Parents will soon be sent a letter of their child's weight, including advice on what to do if the child is overweight. However, government ministers have ruled that "offensive" language, such as "obese" or "fat" will not be allowed to be used in the letters, with words such as "overweight" being used instead.

The letters will provide useful information to parents, such as the problems caused by obesity like, and how to overcome these problems. Research has shown that parents often do not realise their child is overweight, and the letters will be a "wake-up call" to them.

"We have to get the balance right between being a nanny state and a neglectful state," said Will Cavendish, the director of health and wellbeing at the DoH.


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Any Deaths
There have been alot of 5.0-5.9 recently, any deaths? -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 22:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

None of the sources say 4 dead so I am changing it to 3. --SVTCobra 22:14, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

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time of the earthquake
Reading the italian article i saw a different time for the earthqauke. I checked every source in this article, but I can't find the correct time. So i checked this Google cached source and I corrected the date and time from "Monday 21:59 hours UTC" to "Tuesday 9:49 hours UTC". Ciao --Trek00 (talk) 18:16, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


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Tropical Storm Edouard moves on land along Texas coast

August 5, 2008 The (NHC) in Miami, Florida said a change in direction of Tropical Storm Edouard took the storm east of Galveston, Texas and away from a direct path across Houston.

The storm never reached hurricane status as its maximum sustained winds were clocked at 65mph. Sustained winds of 74mph are considered to be hurricane strength.

Tourist Beth Bronson, visiting Galveston from Allen, Texas near Dallas was hoping to ride the storm out.

"We spend money to come here with our families. It's an inexpensive place to stay," Bronson, 49, told TIME Magazine. "If they were to say evacuate, then yeah we would do it. But otherwise no."

Earlier today, tropical storm warnings and hurricane watches were issued for places including, Louisiana and as far west as , Texas. However, tropical storm warnings and hurricane watches were allowed to be discontinued by the NHC for all areas south of Sargent earlier Tuesday.

Texas Governor, Rick Perry, issued a disaster declaration today for 17 counties in Texas, allowing the state to activate 1,200 Texas troops, six UH-60  and numerous other emergency organizations. In Louisiana, Governor declared a statewide emergency declaration. There up to 3,000 residents in low-lying coastal areas were told to evacuate. Also, in the western part of the state, people living in mobile homes or FEMA trailers along the coast were advised to leave.

Tropical Storm Edouard, the fifth tropical storm of the, also forced gas and oil companies in the Gulf of Mexico to close up and evacuate workers. According to the U.S. Minerals Management Service, over 20 of the 717 production platforms and 6 of 125 rigs were shut down.

The two major airports in Houston, Texas, and, were delayed Tuesday morning between 30 minutes to 5 hours.

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Comments:Microsoft study proves six degrees of separation

Please note that the Kevin Bacon game mentioned in the article was inspired by Erdos numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C5%91s_number

Misleading by it's lack of reality. If this was qualified as "connection to people on the planet who are technologically savvy and have access to the Internet" then it has some legs. How many of the 6+ billion are so qualified? Bangladesh? Sumatra? Science must be based on lucid assumptions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.253.106.128 (talk) 18:56, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


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American presumed dead for 30 years found healthy

August 6, 2008

An American man presumed to be dead after the 1976 Big Thompson Canyon flood has been found alive in Oklahoma City.

Barb Anderson, a Big Thompson Canyon resident, was researching the flood victims and found Darrell Johnson, alive and well, in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.

Sixty-three-year-old funeral director Darrell Johnson told the Fort Collins Coloradoan on Friday that he didn't know he was on the victim list until Anderson told him last year. He was one of the six reported missing and the 144 killed, which has now been amended to 143.

Johnson and his family were living in a Sleepy Hollow resort cabin in Estes Park, but decided to leave after staying for one night. A few hours later, the whole resort was washed away.


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Comments:British schools to inform parents of overweight children

Apparently parents were completely unable to figure this out before now. You know, that their kids are overweight. Perhaps they don't have the gift I do, because when I look at a fat kid, I can immediately determine that he's overweight, and I don't need schools telling me that...
 * Sometimes overweight people don't look overweight... or they may just be considered "tubby", but they are in fact overweight. This is to help parents know for sure (and of course some parents are so blind to the issue that they need telling).  Majorly  talk  01:11, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

However, government ministers have ruled that "offensive" language, such as "obese" or "fat" will not be allowed to be used in the letters, with words such as "overweight" being used instead.

WTF? As a guy who used to be fat - yes, fat! - but not anymore, thanks to exercise and diet, I can only say that this is bollocks. "Fat" is offensive only insofar as displaying it is offensive; if you're fat and someone calls you that, then how about you do what's needed to stop being fat? 81.5.64.43 12:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


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User talk:70.79.96.121

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News Poke
You have been poked. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 02:42, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

 * ...where 'poke' = wikinews welcome template? Interestingggg in a weird, friendly kinda way. ;) Brynn (talk) 02:48, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Eh. You don't need to be welcomed.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 02:50, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for having a 'poke' at this (reading comments above). I'm really, really busy on something else. I'm holding of for a period of time because Mike Godwin cautioned such (and took me off his Facebook friends list). It might be good if someone else took a stab at this. Mike needs contacted for a status update, and the law firm needs a right-to-respond. Interested? --Brian McNeil / talk 00:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * LOL - Mike defriended you? What a blow to the ego! -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 00:04, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Hi Brian! I'm not going to be able to take on that article beyond the bit of copy editing I did.  I am swamped with my studies, which is why I've not been able to contribute as much as I would like.  I think I'll have to stick to 15 minutes of copy-editing every now and then.  If you'd ever like me to copy-edit for you or others, shoot me an email. :) Brynn (talk) 03:32, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

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User talk:74.140.217.238

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Online buyers conned by fake Olympics ticket web sites

August 7, 2008

Two web sites purporting to sell tickets to the 2008 Summer Olympic Games due to open in Beijing, China on Friday have been the subject of lawsuits from the International Olympic Committee in United States courts in recent weeks. The web sites, beijingticketing.com and beijing-2008tickets.com, were designed to resemble official sites and often appeared above the official sites in Google searches, and scammed some victims out of up to US$50,000 each for tickets to events such as the Opening Ceremony and swimming, which were listed despite the official Beijing ticket web site stating that tickets to all events had sold out as of July 27. The sites are believed to have taken in millions of dollars in total.

Ken Gamble, a private investigator from Sydney, Australia, believes the sites are operated by Terance Shepherd, whom Gamble has been tracking for several years in relation to other fraudulent web sites selling tickets to events such as the FIFA World Cup. According to Gamble, Shepherd's modus operandi involves setting up the fake web sites, overselling the tickets, and then failing to produce the tickets. "The story's always the same," Gamble said, "it's an 'unfortunate mistake' or someone has 'let them down'. They promise a refund, which never happens, and the credit companies end up paying all the refunds." Shepherd owns a home in the London suburb of Blackheath, although authorities believe he is currently hiding in Barbados.

On Monday, beijingticketing.com customers received an email from someone named "Alan Scott", claiming that the site's ticket supplier had filed for bankruptcy. The email recommended that customers should contact their credit card companies to seek refunds "immediately", and said that the company would set up a call centre to provide assistance to its customers. However, the site has been shut down and a phone number previously listed on it has been disconnected. The company's address, in Phoenix, Arizona, was found to be an empty office space. Visa International has stated that victims who used their Visa card to pay should be able to get their money back, but it is not yet clear whether the same will apply to all customers.


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Categories
I don't know which geographic categories to add - the Olympics are in China, but aren't really the focus of this story; the web site was based in the US; the guy allegedly behind the scam is from the United Kingdom; it also affected (and seemed to get a fair amount of press from) people in Australia and New Zealand. Any thoughts? Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 06:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Category:China per Olympics, where the site is based isn't relevant - I'm in Belgium but Wikinewsie.org is in the US. UK might be appropriate, but the press coverage in Oz and NZ definitely doesn't merit those categories. Plus, we probably want Category:2008 Olympics as I assume (well, hope actually) that there will be a fair bit of coverage. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:52, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * We already have Category:Beijing 2008 Olympic and Paralympic Summer Games. 82.32.51.150 10:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Personally I think that China should be added at the minimum and you could add the US and UK for the reasons given - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 10:00, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Inconsistency
The first paragraph states that the sites have: "scammed victims out of up to US$50,000" but then finishes with: "The sites are believed to have taken in millions of dollars." There is a vast difference between the two figures, and I wonder which is correct? 194.176.105.40 11:58, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I believe what it means is up to 50K was taken from each victim, with a totalin the millions of dollars, but I don't honestly know. Can someone who does clarify? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:11, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

 * That's what it's supposed to be. I'll add an "each" to clarify it. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 14:35, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


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Group claims activists held in China after free Tibet protests

August 6, 2008 The non-profit student-led organization Students for a Free Tibet, which seeks to make Tibet a separate country from China, has claimed that some of its activists have been detained in Beijing after protesting near an Olympic stadium, holding banners such as "One World, One Dream: Free Tibet" and "Tibet Will Be Free."

The British Embassy in Beijing is investigating these reports, which involved two Britons and two Americans. A British Embassy spokesman said that they "are in touch with the Chinese authorities and are requesting immediate consular access should this information be correct."

Lhadon Tethong, Executive Director of Students for a Free Tibet, made a statement after the alleged action: "At this very moment, Tibetans are facing the most severe and violent repression they have seen in decades at the hands of the Chinese government, and we have taken nonviolent action at this critical time to draw the world’s attention to the crisis gripping Tibet."

"Days before the Olympic Games begin, and as all eyes turn to China, we appeal to the world to remember that millions of Tibetans are crying out for human rights and freedom," said the Deputy Director of the protest group. "As the Chinese leadership prepares its display of grandeur and power in Beijing, trying to convince the world of its new tolerance and openness, it is waging a ruthless campaign of repression inside Tibet."

The American protestors have been named as Phill Bartell from New Jersey and Tirian Mink from Oregon. The British protesters have been named as Iain Thom and Lucy Fairbrother.


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Even if Ticket4one is not a copyrighted violation. Wikinews does not accept press releases. f you recreate the article it will be redeleted as a pres release. Anonymous101talk 08:17, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

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Football: Melbourne Victory win A-League Pre-Season Cup on penalties

August 6, 2008

Australian football (soccer) club Melbourne Victory FC have defeated New Zealand's Wellington Phoenix FC 8-7 in a penalty shootout to win the fourth annual A-League Pre-Season Challenge Cup. The match, played at Westpac Stadium in Wellington, New Zealand in front of 9,208 spectators, finished at 0-0 after the regulation 90 minutes. The match saw relatively few chances, the best of which fell to the Phoenix. Melbourne goalkeeper Michael Theoklitos made two stunning saves in the second half which were the obvious highlights of the regulation playing time. On 68 minutes, the Victory failed to sufficiently clear a corner kick by the Phoenix, and midfielder Richard Johnson sent a volley shot heading towards the right hand side of the net from 20 metres out until Theoklitos' intervention prevented it from breaking the deadlock.

The other major chance of the match came 12 minutes later, when the home side's striker Shane Smeltz headed the ball towards the bottom left hand corner of the Melbourne goal. Once again, Theoklitos managed to readjust his balance and made the save down low to his right, parrying the ball away from the danger area.

With the 2008-09 A-League — Australia's top-tier football completion — season proper starting in only nine days, competition rules provide that if the scores finish level after 90 minutes, the match goes directly to a penalty shootout. In nearly all other competitions around the world, including the season proper's final series, 30 minutes of extra time would be played before a penalty shootout is used.

Melbourne captain Rodrigo Vargas won the coin-toss prior to the shootout and elected that his side would go first. During the opening five penalties, both Smeltz for Wellington and Nick Ward for Melbourne missed the goals completely — both shooting high and to the left of the goals in very similar style to each other — resulting in the scoreline being 4-4 after the five mandatory penalties. At this point the shootout became a "sudden death" situation.

Three more pairs of penalties passed with success by both sides, before the shootout was decided on the ninth round of the shootout. Melbourne scored, before Wellington's Karl Dodd's penalty driven low to the right hand side of Theoklitos was stopped by the Victory 'keeper to win the Cup for Melbourne after 18 penalty kicks.

The trophy was the Victory's third piece of silverware since their establishment for the start of the A-League competition in 2005; they we the premiers and champions of the 2006-07 A-League season. For Wellington, this was their first ever final in any competition, as well as the first time a New Zealand side has been in an Australian domestic club competition final in the history of professional football (soccer) in the country, which dates back to the Football Kingz FC in 1999.


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Talk:Football: Melbourne Victory win A-League Pre-Season Cup on penalties

Everything except the part about this being NZ's first AU domestic final is from my notes having watched the match on Fox Sports 3 from 1730-1950 AEDT (or 1700-1920 ACDT, where I live). The source listed covers the first final fact. Daniel (talk) 11:50, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
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Self-publish is now a no-no
We are trying to improve quality and credibility. Part of this means that nobody heavily involved in the development of an article should add the publish tag to it. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I asked for opinions on IRC and all I got was assent. Next time, I guess, I can simply get them to make the edits instead. Daniel (talk) 13:39, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


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Mauritania president Abdallahi arrested in coup

August 6, 2008

Mauritania's President Sidi Ould Cheikh Abdallahi and Prime Minister Yahya Ould Ahmed Waghf were arrested Wednesday in a military coup in Nouakchott, the country's capital. The coup has shut down state radio and television.

"The security agents of the BASEP [Presidential Security Battalion] came to our home around 9:20 and took away my father," Amal Mint Cheikh Abdallahi said, confirming that presidential guardsmen seized her father.

Soldiers gathered at the presidential palace after Abdallahi replaced senior army officers during a political crisis in the northwest African country, one of the continent's newest oil producers which also mines iron, copper and gold.

A state council is forming under the command of former presidential guard chief Mohamed Ould Abdelaziz. The council's "Statement No. 1", which was broadcast by Gulf-based al-Arabiya television, announced that Abdallahi is now a "former president" and that his previous decision of sacking Abdelaziz as the head of the presidential guard had been voided.

The country, which has a long history of military coups, staged free elections in June 2007, two years after a previous coup.


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Khalid awan is facing a false,fabricated,conspiracious case by US
Your story is a copy of a letter that has been published elsewhere. Not only are there copyright issues, but the letter is at least six months old. For help please read the style guide. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:37, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

The U.S. terror war as seen through the eyes of a prisoner
Hi Arifmuhammad41. I'm afraid that your news article The U.S. terror war as seen through the eyes of a prisoner may not fit with Wikinews's policies for inclusion. Our guide to writing an article has further advice on how to write - or rewrite - articles, as does our content guide. Redvers (talk) 19:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Arifmuhammad41, the article is a blatant copyright violation as it is a copy from the November 2008 Idaho Observer. Also, it is not news because it so old. Please educate yourself on these concepts as it is not the first time. Cheers, --SVTCobra 19:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

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User talk:Sigmundur

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Comments:American presumed dead for 30 years found healthy

"So THAT'S why I stopped having to pay taxes. *cough*" Fephisto (talk) 16:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Heh, it'd make a good excuse. I wonder how many similar cases are around. --FastLizard4 (talk) 07:09, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Just a quick question...
I'm not an American but even so I can understand that if he was considered dead then how come he could still pay taxes (I'm assuming he paid taxes on his Social Security number because he didn't know he was considered dead). If he didn't pay his taxes, then I bet the IRS has an huge bill waiting for him... :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DarcBird (talk • contribs) 00:03, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I can't really answer that one. All I can say is that in some respects, US states are fairly independent and maintain their own databases. And states likely do not interact between one-another, but only upward to the federal gov't. For comparison you could liken it to the EU. Say you move from Spain to Belgium just as a disaster happened in Spain. You register in Belgium, and they check your records in Spain, which confirm who you are. A few days later, Spain didn't find you in the disaster area and declares you dead. And voila you are alive in Belgium and dead in Spain. This is all speculation, of course.--SVTCobra 00:42, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Vitamin C can help prevent cancer say the National Institutes of Health

WHOOPS! IT TURNS OUT THAT CANCER IS ACTUALLY JUST SCURVY, OH GEE, SORRY GUYS! (joking ;D)

But seriously, 50%? Fephisto (talk) 16:23, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Why 38 years to inject
If originally tested in 1970 via oral doseage, why would it have taken 38 years to attempt a similar experiment via injection? Where is the innovation, where is the aggressive pursuit of answers, the vigorous testing of variables. I'm happy to hear that we are finally making some progress, but I am a little disappointed that such progress was not made 37 years ago. I'm hardly a scientist, but there is no doubt in my mind that if I had been the one to test oral vitamin C, I also would have been the one to test vitamin C injections, and I don't mean 38 years later. Leeuwenhoek would have turned over in his grave if he knew of such non-sense.

Is it not common knowledge that vitamin C is the number one recommended vitamin for preventing illness, does it not follow that someone (perhaps a scientist) would investigate the antioxidant's ability to act upon various pathogens? I would anticipate that the public expects the scientific community to start with the obvious and most easily accessed disease fighting agents, before spending large sums of money on the perverse and less probable concoctions. If this is not happening then change is long overdue... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doctor Zkon (talk • contribs) 05:45, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


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McCain ad questions Obama's benefit to families

August 7, 2008 The latest advertisement for United States Republican presidential candidate John McCain is questioning Democrat Barack Obama's benefit to families.

Last week the BBC reported that the McCain campaign had released an advertisement comparing Obama to American celebrities Britney Spears and Paris Hilton, calling him "the biggest celebrity in the world."

McCain's newest advertisement, released early this week, continues along those same lines.

"Is the biggest celebrity in the world ready to help your family?" the narrator asks, according to The Boston Globe and a video of the ad displayed on its website. "The real Obama promises higher taxes, more government spending. So, fewer jobs." With images of wind turbines in the background, the narrator says, "Renewable energy to transform our economy, create jobs and energy independence, that's John McCain."

The Boston Globe reports that McCain's latest ad does not acknowledge that Obama's economic policy, especially the proposed rollback of current president George W. Bush's capital gains tax cuts, would largely affect the wealthiest of America, not the middle class.

Obama, the BBC reports, is quoted as calling McCain "cynical," "desperate" and "in the pocket of Big Oil."

The latest Obama video, shown on the USA Today website, touts McCain as "just more of the same" politics employed by George W. Bush. The ad cites a May 22, 2003 Fox News Channel interview where McCain says "the President and I agree on most issues. There was a recent study that showed I voted with the President over 90 percent of the time." The ad then criticizes McCain's policies on tax cuts, money for oil companies, and "tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas."

USA Today does note that "[w]hile the ad shows McCain touting the fact that he had voted "with" President Bush more than 90% of the time, the Arizona senator did criticize the administration's conduct of the war in Iraq — calling early on for more troops to be sent there. He also voted against the president's original tax cut plan — though McCain now says he supports extending those tax cuts. And, he proposes cuts in all kinds of corporate taxes, not just those on oil companies."

McCain is set to appear at an Ohio furniture plant Wednesday to reinforce the messages in his latest advertisement.

"America has the second highest business tax rate in the entire world," he plans to say, according to prepared remarks issued by his campaign, and released by The Boston Globe. "Is it any wonder that jobs are moving overseas when we are taxing them out of the country? Unfortunately Senator Obama's plans would raise taxes on businesses even more. He has promised tax increases on income, tax increases on investment, tax increases on small businesses. This is exactly the wrong strategy. Raising taxes in a bad economy is about the worst thing you could do because it will kill even more jobs when what we need are policies that create jobs."

Obama spokesman Bill Burton responded:

"Is the biggest proponent of George Bush’s tired, failed policies ready to bring about change? Another day brings another dishonest attack from John McCain. While Senator McCain knows that Senator Obama has proposed cutting taxes for 95% of American families, what he’s not telling us is that he wants to give $4 billion in tax breaks to the oil companies, continue giving tax breaks to corporations that ship our job overseas, and provide no direct tax relief for more than 100 million middle-class families. It’s time to retire these old policies and bring new energy to America."


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Headline should read "Candidates Spend on Defamatory TV Ads"Nanjpt (talk) 18:09, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know if that would be NPOV. ;) —Calebrw (talk) 19:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


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 * Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced
 * Introduction - overview of the site
 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
 * Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
 * Style guide - how articles should look before publishing
 * Contents - the contents page.
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * Audio Wikinews could always use more contributors
 * And of course, stories need writing!

title: User talk:Javawizard