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Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous/Archive/13

Template:U
I don't know if it can be useful. I propose. Template:U, with four automatic links: 1. Link to user page, 2. t=link to user's talk page, 3. c=link to user's contributions, 4. b=link to user's block log

Probably it could be also used, with a conditional and optional parameter, with code of other projects (Wikipedia, etc.). I did not try. Hégésippe | ±Θ± 06:58, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * We sort of already have it - template:vandal template:user template:admin. but otherwise good idea. — user:Bawolff 08:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * We could merge it with those three templates, have parameters, etc. Interesting concept. ★ MESSED  ROCKER ★  08:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Nifty idea. Too bad it won't work with or the like. --
 * It has no sense to be used with tildes inside. If you write for example a list of WoW accounts, you don't need to use tildes. [[Image:Smiley.png|15px|smiley]] Hégésippe | ±Θ± 16:53, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Template is an idea of w:fr:User:Korrigan and others on French Wikipedia. There is also a template for articles or pages, with links to article/page, talk page, history, page's log and Special:Whatslinkshere, see w:fr:Modèle:a. Hégésippe | ±Θ± 17:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Google News
I wondered if we could be listed on Google News, so I suggested our site. Here's what they replied.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:15, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Steven, Thank you for your note. We've reviewed http://en.wikinews.org but are unable to include it in Google News at this time. We're unable to include sites that don't have a formal editorial-review process. We appreciate your taking the time to contact us, and we'll log your site for consideration should our requirements change. Thanks for your interest in Google News. Regards, The Google Team

 * yes, it's alway the same answer... Jacques Divol 16:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep. Theres been some attempts to get us on before too ( At one point they did three of our articles, then changed their mind. http://wikinews.blogspot.com was another attempt (static wikinews) etc). Bawolff -)(-: 23:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Google sez, "We're unable to include sites that don't have a formal editorial-review process." Yet, sites that mirror Wikinews stories get linked on Google. 207.59.186.117 08:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

DynamicPageList2
There are polls inside French and Italian language communities to see if we could ask (in MediaZilla) for implementation of DynamicPageList2 on the whole Wikinews projects or, maybe, only on projects which make the request. See fr:Wikinews:Salle café and it:Wikinotizie:Bar. On Bosnian and Japanese language communities, two bureaucrats were also contacted and do not seem to be against this possible new feature. Hégésippe | ±Θ± 04:18, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Illya said something previously about moving Wikinews to DPL2. user:Bawolff 04:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The DPL2 is a much better (and newer) version of the DPL extension; it's very flexible and can coexist with the old DPL. The only problem with it is that the addfirstcategorydate isn't working well for our uses (it only works if there's one included category, and outputs time and date in an ugly format).  I've corrected this on my local wiki, and am working to get the changes integrated into the main line of the extension.  When that's done, I'll add my votes to get this deployed in the right place. -- IlyaHaykinson 10:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Original and "on-the-scene" reporting
(These questions come on the heels of Talk:Natural gas odor permeates New York and Jersey Cities.)

Is it OK to tag articles as {original} if some information was obtained via third parties (ex.: quoting from an interview conducted by another reporter)?

Also, is there a separate "on-the-scene" tag to indicate that a Wiki-Newsie was present at an event, even if the bulk of the WikiNews article does not merit an {original} tag? ▪ NeoAmsterdam TalkEdits 06:54, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

 * The whole idea of the OR tag is a bunch of rootin' tootin' crap in my estimation. The tag will go the way of the dinosaurs. 207.59.186.117 08:22, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That did not answer the question. ▪ NeoAmsterdam TalkEdits 08:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

 * There has been a previous discussion about this, maybe this will make it more clear: Water_cooler/policy/Archive/15.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 14:47, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It didn't make it clear before I posed the question, so I posed it in a different light. ▪ NeoAmsterdam TalkEdits 15:00, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

 * I don't really see a merit for an "on the scene" tag, it's either completely from sources or partially or completely original, I think.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 14:49, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand what you're alluding to when you mean "completely from sources... or completely original", but where do you draw the line when it's "partially" original?.
 * I'm not trying to be a jerk or thick-headed, but I want to make sure that this is cleared up before the next time. ▪ NeoAmsterdam TalkEdits 15:00, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

 * previous unresolved disc. — Doldrums(talk) 15:08, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The tag is not designed to be anything more then an explanation of why some information does not have a source. Over time it has become a bit more, but the primary purpose remains the same. If there is any information not covered by the source that is OR, then the tag should be used.--Cspurrier 15:11, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

 * In other words: everything that is not completely from sources, is original. But for example when you watch something on TV, it's not original: the broadcast is the source (some previous report on a television show was marked as "original").--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:43, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I have a better idea of tagging OR now. Thanks, Steven.  Thanks, Cspurrier. ▪ NeoAmsterdam TalkEdits 16:52, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

missed prepared story
Story preparation/U.S. Mint to begin circulation of $1 coins bearing U.S. presidents was prepared ages ago and should have been published on January 1, but was forgotten. What should be done with it now? It seems a shame to let it go to waste. the wub "?!"  15:02, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

 * The story about Sarkozy was also missed. I think it's very unfortunate, but it's overdue and will probably get deleted.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:05, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Too bad... — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)   (sign here!)  00:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikilinks and such
I have noticed lately that we are forgetting or overlooknig the addition of Wikilinks in articles. We need to have that fixed people. Lets get on the ball here. Also I have noticed that articles are getting sloppy. Where is everyone? DragonFire1024 19:55, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I havn't been doing very much arround here lately. I'll try and make an effort to proofread/wikify stories. Also another area which wed have lacked recently is RC-patrol. How many times have stewards intervened recently to block vandals just because nobody was arround? (over 4 in the last 2 or 3 weeks at least). Thats not good, we are not a small wiki. Bawolff -)(-: 05:02, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I will also try to proofread now and then :) — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)   (sign here!)  23:20, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Newsroom
I think the newsroom needs to be redone. The leads should be closer to the top. Articles in development as well. Article requests are IMO pointless because many writers pat no attention to them. I also think that a section needs to be added where articles need to be followed up on or have an updated articles. Example: Officer shot in critical condition...a follow up article would read officer recovered or died etc...Point is there are many articles that should be followed up on but are not. I just think the newsroom is looking highly disorganized. DragonFire1024 20:05, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Newsroom has always been a thing that everyone tries to make popular, but no one ever looks at IMHO. Bawolff -)(-: 04:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Just like you think nobody reads Wn news... Of course we don't use it enough, but that's no reason to give up on it! If we make it more useful maybe more people will use it. It's primary target should be to make it a real place for editors to see what articles need work, first focusing on writing new stories and secondly other things like disputed stories. Leads can be left out entirely imho, it would be handy though to have a tool that indicates the time since they were last updated (as suggested before), but that seems to be okay nowadays. Redesigning would be a great idea.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I like the "tool that indicates the time since they were last updated" idea. I do also beleive that the newsroom needs more attention. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)   (sign here!)  23:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't like "Winners, HomeSense computers hacked" as a headline.
I have this problem with news papers too. You can use more words in a headline to convey a complete idea.

The headline just does not mean anything to me. The reason is; I don't recognise Winners and HomeSense. It could be because they are assumed global enterprises. But they do not have stores in my country, I have visited some of the countries noted in the article, but their brands failed to impress upon my memory.

I think that people ought to think about who the audience is and write headlines that mean something to everyone. I would have understood a headline "Nokia computers hacked" because most people that use computers to read news would have knowledge of this company.

"Winners and HomeSense corporate database hacked" This would have let me know that Winners and HomeSense are big companies, which I would assume have customers. Which would have made the article have more appeal.

When I read the headline I thought that it was a competition, by a security company called HomeSense, to see if their computer could be hacked.
 * I agree with you a 100% Bawolff -)(-: 04:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Stats
Hi there!

I am researching Wikinews for my masters degree in communications. Most information I've been able to find by myself, but there's something I miss: what's the proportion between OR and condensed articles? Are there tables with those numbers? Or where could I find the raw data?

Thanx! --Mtrasel 18:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

 * According to a count of Category:Original reporting there are 687 articles marked as having Original reporting.  Special:Statistics says we have a total of 7,818 articles (might be a bit high). Based off of these numbers about 10% of our stories include Original reporting. --Cspurrier 19:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Should be interesting to see how this varied during our short existance, to see if there is an evolution over time.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:58, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * For the big list of stats, including charts on how we varied over time, see special:statistics (specificly the see also section). Bawolff ☺☻ 23:42, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Annie Awards
I'm going to need the temporary photographer accreditation status for someone soon. The idea was generally approved, and so I'd like to implement it. Is there any press pass images available? -- Zanimum 16:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Umm, someone had them, try CSpurrier, Chiacomo, Dan100 (and failing them) maybe Amgine, and mrm. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Shorts formatting
it appears that people have different ideas about the style and formatting to be used in Shorts. note that the foll. templates shld be modified to change formatting uniformly for all Shorts article. i suggest we discuss and fix a Style here. some issues i've observed are listed below- — Doldrums(talk) 04:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Template:New Wikinews Shorts
 * Template:New Wikinews Shorts item
 * Template:Wikinews Shorts header

 * What heading level to be used for headlining briefs?
 * H2 (i.e. "== =="). — Doldrums(talk) 04:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Use TOC or not?
 * Yes, multiple independent briefs need a toc. — Doldrums(talk) 04:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

 * List all sources together at the bottom or for each brief?
 * List at bottom, blank line between the sets of sources for each article, list in article order and within that descending date order. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:45, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

 * How to format the Sources section?
 * Not section heading - screws up toc. — Doldrums(talk) 04:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well why not? just do a third level heading.Bawolff ☺☻ 11:15, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * section headings of all levels show up in toc. if individual briefs get their own sources section, then the toc will read so -
 * Donald Duck to run for President
 * Sources
 * Daffy recovering in hospital; Bugs charged
 * Sources
 * Pluto gets Best Supporting Actor
 * Sources
 * not so good. — Doldrums(talk) 11:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't really see what's wrong with that, but the alternative is to use Big writing, however it doesn't carry the same this is a heading info with it. Or you could manually make the ToC. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:15, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * How about...
 * Donald Duck to run for President
 * Daffy recovering in hospital; Bugs charged
 * Pluto gets Best Supporting Actor
 * Sources
 * Donald Duck to run for President
 * Daffy recovering in hospital; Bugs charged
 * Pluto gets Best Supporting Actor
 * This would best be finished off with a references link at the end of each main section that jumped to its sources in the sources section. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * A template to format the TOC in a smaller font would probably also be a good idea. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Link to expanded article?
 * Yes. — Doldrums(talk) 04:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

In the News - content
Normally whomever looks after this portion of the website is very good at keeping it up to date. My question is why is the Picture still on Dolphin Stadium and why is the Superbowl still the top news story 4 days later. Has nothing else of interest happened in the world since Sunday? I would like to say keep up the good work as I check in every day to see what is going on in the world. This Superbowl thing has me baffled. Thanks

 * Published stories on Wikinews stay on the main page for four days. After four days, they automatically move into the show/hide section. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)   (sign here!)  16:49, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Note, if you're referring to wikipedia's in the news, they're different from us and do there own thing. We have no control over what they do. Try asking at wikipedia:portal talk:Current events. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:15, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiNews Widget
Hi, I created a WikiNews widget is anyone would like it. Here is a link to the zip file of the widget and a screenshot of the widget: link commented out Charlie101 03:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks cool. (Is this for Mac OS X?). Unfortunately the link doesn't seem to work. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:39, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I've commented out the link as it was no longer functional. Can you tell us a bit more about the Widget, such as licensing and where the source can be found?  I can offer you somewhere to host if needed. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:24, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool stuff. Would it be possible to add this to the Google Desktop software section? Would you be willing to program foreign language versions. Also, I think it's officially Wikinews, not WikiNews. --  Zanimum 15:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews in the media
Well, sort of. The published Wikinews article, "Australian Prime Minister targets Obama on Iraq" has been published on New Zealand-based independent news site, Scoop (.co.nz). http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0702/S00272.htm

When I first saw it on Scoop, the story was the second most read world story. --Nzgabriel | Talk 02:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * cool (although we have been out of beta for a while now I believe and we are no longer pd). See also WN:MF, and In the news. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:03, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah I noticed that too, :). --Nzgabriel | Talk 03:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * So, has anyone sent an email yet? I'm willing to do so, have sent an email to another non-compliant site before. Things like this should be reported on Meta, or maybe we can set up a reusers-page on this site.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 16:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * See WN:MF (Which is horriblly set up, and way overtemplitized). Anyways someone should send him an email. I could if you want, or you could, doesn't really matter. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:52, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Seems to me that someone beat us to it, since the licence and bèta-issues no longer appear on the Scoop article.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 10:08, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

People should do better fact checking: "...Wikinews, founded in January 2005..." --http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=36649. --Nzgabriel | Talk 18:58, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Markers for used content?
Hi, is there any way a template or something could be created to "mark" a Wikinews article that has been used in the media? See Talk:Sai_Baba_upsets_Telangana_activists for an example. IronFist 02:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

(I just noticed the section above, dealing with the same topic) IronFist 03:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * no. Please make one at template:used (or something like that). Bawolff ☺☻ 03:02, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * We do have In the news.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 16:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Interesting idea... Wikipedia has a template like this that is used on article talk pages. But I can't find it. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)   (sign here!)  19:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Oscar party
It's not one of the Oscar parties the nominees traditionally go to, but we're (John B. Mueller) into the Billboard Magazine/Children Uniting Nations post-Oscar bash, which features performances by Lil' Kim, Reuben Studdard, Diana DeGarmo, and DMC from Run DMC. In the past Lindsey Lohan and Paris Hilton have been among the guests. Fingers crossed that Elton John's party organizers let us in to that event too, at the last minute. -- Zanimum 00:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Excellent! Actually, I was curious about the deal you have with Mueller, how did you manage to get him? I suspect you compensate him for it or what?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 08:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

 * If memory serves it was from a craigalist advertisement, and I think Mueller is being paid. (don't quote me on any of this) See also pages like Oscars 2008 co-ordination. Anyways, Really good job with all this. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:50, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I wish we were paying him, but it's solely to help build up his portfolio. The more celebs he can get (Paris Hilton showed up to this event last year, Lindsey Lohan the year before), the better his celebrity photography collection on his website can be, and the more events he can say he's been admitted into. There's no money changing hands, not even compensation for gas. (Thankfully he shoots digital, so that's one less cost.) There's simply no money in Foundation to pay for special projects like this, or WikiWorld. --  Zanimum 20:26, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Actually, his father-in-law is a pro-photographer too, supposedly, and he was hoping to get him in to the event. Sadly, the organizers are from limiting our access to one photographer, no reporters, red carpet only. Still, there's a possibility for some okay photos. (Annies had actually given us an all-access pass, but I let him stay just for the red carpet, so that he could get home to his wife.)

 * If anyone can think of any events that happen in LA, let me know, so I can try and arrange access. Doesn't have to include traditional celebrities, but it should include some sort of interesting, newsworthy coverage. Clinton or Obama tour stops, possibly? Major product unveilings? Anything you can think of. Even if he doesn't want it, there's a few other people on my list that are willing to do this sort of pro-bono stuff. --  Zanimum 20:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Presidential hopefuls

 * If you can get admission to Presidential election stuff that'd be great for our coverage. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:49, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Cool idea. Wikinews would benefit from these events. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)   (sign here!)  19:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Okay, the Democrats themselves don't have any easy electronic access, nor does Hilary and many individual candidates. Barack, Gravel, Dodd, Richardson, Binden all have direct PR emails, I'll their campaigns first. --  Zanimum 20:21, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

We had windows vista support mirroring us for a bit
For some unknown reason- http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:seUdZvsxdngJ:www.zero800.pl/news/Vista-Talk:Sydney_residents_protest_anti-terror_laws Bawolff ☺☻ 00:33, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * actually I doubt that was really windows vista support, but still interesting. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:37, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. They also mirrored my user page and talk page. (see here) — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)   (sign here!)  00:48, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

recent article aid
I recently added this short news article its my first one ever so i would apreciate feed back and any edits that will make it better. thanks Maverick423 16:38, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Whats wikinews come to
My god, what’s wikinews come to, the silliness about the NZ "boobs on bikes" parade is far over the top, grow up people, if are a new site, we report news, and this is news in New Zealand. Jee, the title is now far misleading, “Complaints lodged, police helpless”

This parade happened in New Zealand’s most conservative city and the outcry has been overplayed by wikinews. If that article is not consisted to be news, then I do think when we have Iraq news, which is written about some lefty antiwar person, that is more not news, or why do we have all these articles about gays, okay is it fine for wikinews to have ‘gay’ material, but this ‘normal people’ is wrong? Why New Zealand may have a good article count now, which is no reason to attack a perfectly good peace of journalism.

I ask this question, when was the last time wikinews published a pro- George Bush story? Don’t tell me all Mr Bushes wikinews stories are NPOV. If I was to write a NPOV article on Bush, do you really think it will be published with out remonstration?

If this is wikinews now days, I’m not sure I what to remain, if we keep going in this direction Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 00:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

 * i know the talk page discussion shed more heat than light. for my part, i think the event was newsworthy, we can use a picture or two to illustrate it. the problem is using such a large number of photos, most of which don't add any more value to the article. additionally, especially at the beginning, there was hardly any reporting at all - it just looked like an excuse to run the photo gallery. and that is not a good thing, remember that this event is a promotional stunt, and our reporting shld do more than provide some additional publicity.

 * its great that contributors are going around doing more OR these days and i appreciate NZG's efforts. we also need to learn more about how to do it. just to illustrate, that photograph of a couple of people looking out of the motel window. if they are a little more recognisable in the photo, we'd be in trouble, i think. privacy laws frown on photographing what people do in their houses (by extension, hotel rooms) through the window.

 * btw, when was the last time there was a Pro-Bush story to write about? :^) — Doldrums(talk) 07:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

This "don't fit elsewhere" even here, Sim has entered Wiki world
Hallo boys and girls!

[ removed comments. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 14:05, 5 March 2007 (UTC) ]

Sim NotAlone1 11:01, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Please stop posting links to your website everywhere, they will be deleted as promotion if you don't. A link on your user page or talk page is fine, please read the guidelines for contributing to the site and follow them. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

AKon visit to Borderfest 2007
Hey i just wrote a news story about Akons visit to border fest this weekend and added the basics well acctually pretty much the whole story about it here A reliable news source hasnt been made for this yet because well can i say that the news here is very slow (example of this is the sueing of churches chicken that happened on the 28th of febuary and came out on the 2nd of march) so yea. it should be on the news today but untill then i cannot source the article. as soon as its available i will post the link to it; however i assure you that the main source is more then likely ganna sound the same so please do not take it as copyright since i was the one who wrote it first. please feel free to fix any errors you may find. Maverick423 17:51, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

NCAA championship week
Since most of the work I do on here is US sports-oriented, I'm going to be busy for the next four weeks or so with the national tournament of NCAA d-1 men's basketball coming up. I've already gotten a start - I've posted a main article detailing the conference tournaments and 30 sub-articles with the tournament brackets of the various conferences. Anyone have any other ideas on how we can incorporate this information elsewhere? The main article is here. Theirishpianist 21:55, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps something similiar to how portal:Olympics were done, or even the chili Finger Incident. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I like how Portal:Olympics is done, it would work well for the realm of college basketball as a whole. Perhaps I can devise something to launch in time for the NCAA tournament. Theirishpianist 01:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

????
Can someone give me the rundown of how to get an article "published?"
 * In order to get an article published you put the on it. But personally I would recomend  . If you have any other questions, feel free to drop me a note :) — F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)   (sign here!)  22:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * See Publish checklist. –Doldrums(talk) 07:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

What I think Wikinews should be about
Fascinating look into a fraudelent story that much of the MSM bought into. My opinion was always that Wikinews would be exactly the kind of place not to make mistakes like that. I'm not here enough anymore to see if that's what's happening, but I hope it is :-). Dan100 (Talk) 23:11, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well hopefully not, but currently I think it has the possibility of happening. We basicly just ensure that others are saying the same thing we are. Lots of people were saying your link. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Red Cross ambulances hit by Israeli strike. — Doldrums(talk) 08:55, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Just because one website says that the report was a hoax does not necessarily make it so. There are many 9/11 conspiracy theories out there (some involving the possibility of Israeli involvement) with much more evidence than zombietime. PVJ(Talk)(Newpages) 10:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Check the photo evidence on that zombietime page, it is quite interesting and mainstream media have taken the accusations quite seriously. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:54, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * For those who is unable to face facts, there is never enough evidence. OTOH, who needs any facts if you can simply blame Israel/Jews for every conceivable sin. ←Humus sapiens ну? 11:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

6:30 news
I had a suggestion...I thought it would be a cool idea to have someone in the Wikinews community to do a newscast for each country like our evening news. It would combine free audio/visual from the news. This would be a huge feat, but I would be willing to contribute (perhaps run the news??? hehe). Anyways let me know how we can begin getting something like this accomplished, if we should even do this. ~ CPSMATH
 * That would be cool (However there isn't a whole lot of volunteers available currently for the non-text side of things)? If you're looking for audio, Audio Wikinews is desperatly looking for more volunteers. For video, Broadcast is kinda dead due to lack of knowledgeable contributors, but if you're willing to bring it back from the grave, that would be great. Welcome to wikinews. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the suggestion. I think I will begin contributing via audio, and perhaps we can visit the broadcast idea when I have my feet wet a little.  This is a new site for me obviously, but I would like to contribute maximally.  Perhaps this summer (I'm a busy student,haha.)  I can get a green screen up and running and we can revisit this idea.
 * Glad to hear. Look forward to hearing you. If you need any help with anything, don't hesitate to ask. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:06, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

PACER
I ended up signing up with PACER, I know some of our contributors won't be able to, so if you've any requests for information out of the system give me a shout. The cost is $0.08 per page, basically an electronic equivalent of a photocopy fee. I don't mind getting the various documents for any cases we report on. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:22, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll add to this that when I say "I don't mind getting", I mean I'll cover the fees. If you have any story involving a US court case let me know as many details as possible and I'll get you any documents the system has on the case. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:45, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

State of the News Media 2007
State of the News Media 2007 is out. strangely enough, Wikinews does not get a mention. –Doldrums(talk) 09:27, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Is there anything in it you especially recommend we can read? I'm always interested to learn something new.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:22, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * section on digital news media and another on citizen journalism, to name two.
 * the former sez,"Sites have done the least to tap the Web’s potential for depth — to enrich coverage by offering links to original documents, background material, additional coverage and more. That suggests that putting things into context, or making sense of the information available, is an area Web journalists still need to work on" and "Digital journalism has also not fully exploited the potential for users to participate by commenting and adding their own voice to the information.". rates various news sites on, among other things,
 * The degree to which users could participate in producing content
 * The degree to which sites offered content in different media formats
 * The degree to which sites exploited the potential for depth on a subject
 * –Doldrums(talk) 06:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

A new category perhaps?
I believe we should have a category for articles written about product recalls. Opinions? DragonFire1024 04:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * i have an opinion - Category:Product recalls. –Doldrums(talk) 06:11, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well DUH on my part lol. DragonFire1024 06:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * we've all been there. –Doldrums(talk) 07:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of Water
I found this in the Newsroom. What is United States Water? It seems to look like a portal. I am known to tag garbage articles for deletion, but this threw me for a loop since it is not an article. --SVTCobra 02:28, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well its on deletion. Should of been prefixed with portal to begin with, but even then I don't think it should be here. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:12, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * We should have a policy proposing not to create encyclopedic stuff on wikinews. I notice a lot of users from wikipedia that come here and create this stuff. It usually comes up for DR anyways. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)   (sign here!)  17:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Related off-site project
In case you're interested, Assignment Zero is using volunteers to report on "crowdsourcing." Maurreen 17:56, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Intreasting (and contridictory) copyright statement at bottom of page. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:36, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Farewell
I enjoyed my tenure, but I just don't have the interest anymore. Farewell, brothers and sisters. ★ MESSED ROCKER ★  20:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * that's too bad. Hope you change your mind. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:14, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Messed, keep the flag flying on whatever wiki you choose to grace. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * was nice having you around, MessedRocker. you know u're welcome back if you change ur mind. –Doldrums(talk) 11:39, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

April fool's
For those of you not already involved in the Image use policy/New wikimedia policy action plan, April fool's day is around the corner.We need to figure out what to do on the occasion. methinks we shld toe the WP line and restrict our efforts to "truthful whimsy" and no breaking of Wiki interface. others have suggested other possibilities in earlier discussion. lets fix on a consensus so as to avoid making it a "guess who blocked who for vandalism day". –Doldrums(talk) 11:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

 * I thought there was consensus on a Alleged Main Page / User:FellowWikiNews/Wikinews community allegedly deletes main page joke or something?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 14:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Where's this alleged consensus? –Doldrums(talk) 14:37, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it was an alleged cabal decree. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:06, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

i don't like the slew of half-thought out, half written articles that have been plastered all over the main page. i don't find them funny. i don't see them fooling anyone, especially with the big banner warning tagged on. can we pls get rid of them. we have one wacky news which'll do incely. lets stick to that. pls respond quickly, i'd like to act fast on this. –Doldrums(talk) 04:00, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I'd prefer an explicit "April Fools" section on the homepage in lieu of this Alleged Main Page; we could stick all the the joke articles there. We're trying to be a news service to thousands of people here, not one big in-joke. -- IlyaHaykinson 04:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I am all for April Fools, but can we not screw up the main page? It looks bad and highly unprofessional... DragonFire1024 04:51, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Also how about making the side bar normal again? This is a little over the hedge and I don't think new users would appreciate the fact that we are not taking Wikinews seriously. DragonFire1024 04:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

 * There is also a plain old spelling error, the first allegedly should be spelled "allegedly". In addition, it would be good to remove the huge and hugely unfunny warning. Centrx 05:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Can't we just have a few joke articles for today, and then delete them afterwards. I'm sure people have a sense of humour. --Nzgabriel | Talk 05:11, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * i don't mind a couple of articles, but the wholesale and haphazard changes to main page design makes it look very bad. and april fools stuff is meant to fool people, something i expect the "deletes main page" article singularly fails to do. the English revolution one does better, i think, but needs a better title. if we are going to have more than one article, then Ilya's suggestion of a "News of the day" section in the sidebar in which all of these can be listed works well.

None of the joke articles advance the purpose of this project. But they do weaken WN's image of credibility. They should all be removed as they harm rather than help Wikinews. Please read: WN:NOT "When you wonder what should or should not be in an article named 'whatever', ask yourself what a reader would expect under 'whatever' from a trusted news provider.". - -- Davodd | Talk 09:14, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

 * My article was just a joke but It's okay if you don't want it on the main page. However, I did like Alleged Main Page. Mabie we could have some Interesting/Wackynews (eg. the cash mouse story) on the main page for today? Or mabie as IlyaHaykinson said, we could have a very small section for April Fools? — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  13:27, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thas agreeable...and the moise story is on 2nd lead i believe :) DragonFire1024 13:39, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Maybe we could have a compilation of what other media outlets used as april fools stories? In Belgium there was something about singer Helmut Lotti starting a bikers club or something...--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't like that idea as it would encourage visitors to leave Wikinews. We should only have our articles on the main page and not other websites. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  21:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Wackynews section on main page
After reading the above discussion, I have come up with an idea. I think we should have a Wackynews section on the main page. This stories are in fact really interesting and enjoyable to read. Does anyone agree? — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  14:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. DragonFire1024 14:08, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Replacing Interviews with Wackynews would have been good, but APril 1st is nearly finished in some parts of the world and - when I was a kid - I was told you could only do the jokes before noon. It's 16:14 here now. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:14, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * But I'm talking about a regular Wackynews section. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  14:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah okay, yes. Do a proposed main page redesign, I don't see why we can't have the last 3 or 4 wackynews stories on the main page. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:20, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We should create Template:Wackynews and cope/paste the formatting from the OR template. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  14:25, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * we can't have a section only for wackynews, what Brian is talking about, i think, is a redesign like User:IlyaHaykinson/Sandbox1 or User:Doldrums/Main_page_yet_another_layout (to name just two), which include a couple of articles from each top-level category, including wackynews. –Doldrums(talk) 14:37, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * With the option of dynamic content I don't see why we can't have a "Latest by main topic" section with all our main categories collapsed. Expanding each could give the latest 3-4 stories and I suspect there's enough space on the main page to do it - I usually see whitespace under the days section following the currently collapsed sections.  However that isn't an optimal place for a category expansion section. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

It's incredible to see how much more wacky stories are usually read, so I guess it would be good for readership. Some news sites have "most popular" links and Britney Spears or Knut or often in the top-10.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You're right. And Wikinews Celebrity Gossip could be a big hit. Some sites that are totally dedicated to gossip do very well, I hear, I don't actually read any of them myself ;-) --SVTCobra 19:48, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I've added the Wackynews template to the main page under the 2007 Cricket World Cup template. I also like Brian's idea of putting all the portals in a show/hide box. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  20:42, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Me too, it looks good for the wackynews but could be something to try for all the main portals. First let's have a design to see where to put them.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I've collapsed the Wackynews section like the older news on the page. I'm not up to doing a redesign, but what I'd like to see is the category/portal links under the expanded days as collapsed sections.  --Brian McNeil / talk 21:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I would think under the collapsed days?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:11, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  21:12, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No. :-) I think have 2-3 days news fully expanded, then the categories/portals under expand/collapse links, followed by an older news heading and a few collapsed days. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:20, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Why can't we just copy/paste what Doldrums put here under the collapsed news days section? — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  21:50, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Bad idea. I previeved it and it didn't cover the white space at all. — Fellow  Wiki  Newsie  21:56, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

 * It works now after Brian fixed it. We should also try to expand the portals section by removing the show/hide thingy. It would totally get rid of the white space but I don't know how to do it. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  01:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If you're going to use the dynamic boxes, might as well have more then two articles per section. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:05, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Gizmo Project
Terinjokes introduced me to The Gizmo Project which you can make telephone calls to anyone anywhere for nearly free if not totally free. I think this will be helpful for Wikinewsies to get in touch for news and such. Even has a conference call option. My number can be found on my user page inside the accredited reporter box at the top of the page. DragonFire1024 22:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Sports writer admin(s)
I've not been following who is doing all the work in the Sports category, but these guys are doing a good job and getting to the stage they need to re-categorise archived articles. I'm hoping someone is keeping an eye out and looking for potential admin candidates, I don't think any of the sports folks are in that category yet, and they need at least one.

Our sports fans seem to have formed their own community around the sports portal, and I think that deserves some recognition. Also, nominating some of them for admin should draw them into the discussions elsewhere. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree :) DragonFire1024 09:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S...As long as they report about the Buffalo, NY Sabres hockey team ;) just kidding. DragonFire1024 09:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * ROFL. :) --Brian McNeil / talk 09:36, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright i've read it now Dragon, lol, your a joker. On the topic, what other types of qualities/requirements are you guys looking for? i've recently started finishing any sports article i see, and reading every single published article and adding anything i can see is needed.  Anything else i can do? —Dark_Squall 04:48, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Shorts
Should the Wikinews Shorts be of articles already published on Wikinews, or articles NOT published on wikinews... DragonFire1024 09:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Can be both. If someone does a brief you can expand to a full article and leave in the brief with a link to the full article.  If we had enough material we'd have briefs that summarised all articles and linked to them. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If you are not planning on writing a full news article then use Shorts. If you have an already published article then do not add it to the shorts. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  22:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Accredited Press Gallery members
Brian NZ and I were talking about becoming accredited press gallery members in the New Zealand Parliament. We would like to know if you (as a Wikinews member) would be supportive of this, and what are your views on this? --Nzgabriel | Talk 08:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The word from a board member is it would be "tricky legal situation" to become one from Wikinews, anyone got any ideas how to do this, with about applying from Wikinews? Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 10:01, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

What is it and why would you want it? -Edbrown05 10:16, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Our American Wikinewise might know it as the "Press Corps". Been part of the Press Gallery, would allow us access to reporting (OR) from parliament, be able to interview politicians etc Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 10:47, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes...you are a freelance journalist. If you have a press badge, I don't see any legal implications as long as you write a story about your parliament visit every time you attend a meeting. If not, then in a way it could seem like a misuse of credentials. Hmmm I don't know why anyone would say tricky legal stuff...doesn't make sense to me. But nonetheless I support. DragonFire1024 21:41, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * My opinion is that the Foundation should be bending over backwards to get you this accreditation/perk. If they aren't then they're failing wikinews. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:47, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree 100%. DragonFire1024 21:48, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Just to add a point, a 100% internet journalist was accredited (they worked for NewsRoom), and is now the Chair of the Press Gallery. (Nzgabriel) 222.154.255.29 01:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * the tricky legal stuff may have to do with the fact that in some situations (eg. ) an accrediting agency has to agree to take responsibility for the actions and reporting of an accredited reporter. the wikinews credential verification system tries to run around this with some "we're accredited but not really accredited" stuff that may not stand official scrutiny. i don't know whether the responsibility stuff applies to getting into the NZ parl. press gallery, but we'll know when we apply. also, all current accredited members of the press gallery are from news organisations, i see no freelancers. at present, Wikinews reporters, even accredited ones, will have to work as freelancers. –Doldrums(talk) 06:14, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, Doldrums that's the prob we have got, the only way we might have around it, is set up a "Wikinews New Zealand" in NZ, (the WMF will most likely allow us a trademark and logo agreement to do that) and apply like that. But that is a hassle. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 07:03, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Jimbo supports Wikimedia censorship?
Code Of Conduct Proposed For Blogosphere.

Anonymous comments could be removed from Wikimedia sites and a code of conduct enacted to stop some language. DragonFire1024 21:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I can't believe it. The Wikimedia foundation should be free and not discourage anonymous users from contributing. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  22:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree...see: Jimbo Wales to create 'code of conduct' for bloggers. DragonFire1024 22:27, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * how'd you/they get that out of it? that's stretching it a bit. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:36, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

How has Wikimedia Changed your Life?
This message is being crossposted around village pumps and mailing lists - apologies if you receive it more than once!

Have any of the Wikimedia projects had an effect on you in real life, or do you know of someone, or some group of people, who use our projects in real life? If so, we want to hear from you at Success Stories - How has Wikimedia Changed your Life?. The hope is that this page can become somewhere to which we can point members of the press so that they can immediately get an idea of the usefulness of our projects. Please, take a look, and add your stories! Mart inp23 16:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * This sounds like a great idea. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  19:36, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Glad to see a background again
Heh, yesterday it was all white, I sign on today and we have this newspaper column background, I like it! --TUFKAAP 06:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See the other section of the water cooler for discussion on it. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:33, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

template for crediting images in caption
Image source is now available. looks like so.

 * So instead of typing: "Credit:ComputerHotline", I can now type: ""? That seems like a lot of additional key-strokes. --SVTCobra 00:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * instead of fiddling about with s and s, u can type "{{Image source ...". will also mean that the formatting stays uniform across articles. that's pretty much why we use templates. –Doldrums(talk) 02:29, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * But couldn't it be made so that "{{Image source|ComputerHotline}}" is all you have to type? --SVTCobra 16:13, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * this is meant to be used for any source, eg. NASA, flickr user etc. we can do a more specialised one for Wikimedia users, which wld like like what u suggest. –Doldrums(talk) 16:15, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. I guess the credit in most cases won't be a commons user name, but rather a person's name. So then the typing won't be so much. But if it turns our there are alot of commons users uploading their own pics (of course they do but I mean if we use them a lot) it might be handy to have something like {{Image commons|ComputerHotline}} --SVTCobra 16:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Category:World
whatsit? What do we do about it? –Doldrums(talk) 15:43, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I've occasionaly sorted stories in this category when I thought they were of international interest, not really bound to a specific region, for example for a "world convention of mathematicians". You could use the guideline from the Meta:list of essential articles; if the Indians of Papua-New-Guinea would be interested, it belongs in that cat.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 16:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought that went for deletion... Every single article is about the world. (except for moon articles) Bawolff ☺☻ 22:29, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * steven, couldn't find the Meta thingy. is there a link somewhere. from what i've seen, national news sources typically use a "World" section to report on international (outside that country) news. that of course is not needed on Wikinews. another option is to use this category to report on international news (i.e. news involving more than one country, not "of interest" to. that is subjective and much more harder to agree on, i think.), i'm not sure how useful that is, though. third option is delete and a happy hour with AWB. –Doldrums(talk) 10:14, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The Quechua Test. I see keep the category and use it to subjectively classify news articles involving multiple countries and worldwide phenomena.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 11:18, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Mozilla Strong Arms Individual Devs
You could if you wanted - Augment my story - but it needs my POV removed from it. Naturally I am very angry at the moment.

First Issue
Mozilla accuses me of Creating with their tools.

http://slashdot.org/~ziggystardust1973/journal/169725 http://www.noisecontrolpublishing.com/drupal http://www.noisecontrolpublishing.com/codeslave/MozDev_Rights_to_NoiseHawk_Trademark.pdf

On a secondary note
I have always presented my work to the public for free.

http://zebra.noisecontrolpublishing.com http://noisecontrol-liscence.blogspot.com/2006/08/irc-discussion-on-wikimedia-use-of.html

--ChrisBradley 07:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Unless it's about a current news event we can't publish it. It's best if you create a sub-page(eg. User:ChrisBradley/Editorial, etc) and paste it there. — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  14:48, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

HD-DVD vandalism with link from Digg
Some idiot just added the HD-DVD numbers to Ancient code desiphered in the Rosslyn Chapel, then dugg it. Hesperian 05:05, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The code has been added to the spam filter I belive. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

SQL Query on Meta
I've requested a SQL query on Meta to determine what articles that have been fully protected from edits and moves, but have not been given an archive tag. Once this is done, I'll post another message, and call for the admin community to start adding the archive tag.  Thunderhead  ►  21:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Dreaded admin tasks !:) — Fellow Wiki  Newsie  22:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * CSpurrier's bot used to do that I thought. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:33, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Can I add news from the past?
I would like to add some information on some past news. So I can link to them from the wikipedia articles.  Vagish  [wp]  [wn] 11:39, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The shelf life of a story here is about two days. But like everything, it all depends. So try it if it fits, and if it doesn't work, you'll know soon enough. -Edbrown05 11:48, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The reason why is then I would make 100s of articles for all the things that happened in the making w:Sivaji: The Boss, including political problems. You will see when you see the sheer amount of information me and w:User:Universal Hero have added to that article.  Vagish  [wp]  [wn] 12:00, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No, you cannot create articles in the past. They would have had to be covered at the time the events happened. But since the articles link to the wikipedia entry, interested readers will be able to learn about past developments that way. --SVTCobra 12:07, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is current events here. -Edbrown05 12:16, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Bloomberg Article
Can someone please help to get the Article about Michael Bloomberg out of the disputed stories section. No matter what I do and how much I clean it up I can't get it out and I don't want all my work to go towards nothing.The 13th 4postle 02:12, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

 * I think this article is publishable. Newsday had something similar. We need to have guts and put something out there that people will say "Wow" not just something that people will say "saw it on CNN" Momodamonkey 02:15, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

 * I think the article reads poorly, but I wouldn't want to "spread my communist propaganda" on this story :-/ -Edbrown05 02:43, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

This image seems not to work as a thumb.
Article - India's Assam state hit by fresh violence The Image won't show up as a thumbnail. Can someone fix it?  Vagish  [wp]  [wn] 17:18, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Done, just needed a size specified. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:22, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That's weird, it should automatically be sized if you don't specify. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I've seen something similar before, and I experimented with the article yesterday: this can happen I think if the image hasn't been used under a specific size before. Images are generally uploaded in large formats so the database needs to generate smaller sizes to use in articles. The first time a specific size is used, there may be a time lag, although in this case it seemed extremely long. But if you try another size, that one may be available and the image appears.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 11:10, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews on Commons
Template has been deleted on Commons. This was used on articles such as Boobs on bikes parade. I've replaced it with a Sisterlinks-box there, this is how it should be dealt with. If you know of any articles on Commons that had the wikinews-template, please correct it.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:52, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Flickr
For those of you on Flickr, I've invited some people, but more are welcome on http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikinews/

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:33, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I joined :) DragonFire1024 12:55, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Couldn't have found you under that username... [[Image:Smiley.png|20px]]. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 13:58, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Also joined.--Mark Talk 15:58, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


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User talk:Cpsmath

6:30 news
[copied from wc so you know i responded. if you want to reply to my response, please do it at the water cooler so we don't have posts everywhere.]

I had a suggestion...I thought it would be a cool idea to have someone in the Wikinews community to do a newscast for each country like our evening news. It would combine free audio/visual from the news. This would be a huge feat, but I would be willing to contribute (perhaps run the news??? hehe). Anyways let me know how we can begin getting something like this accomplished, if we should even do this. ~ CPSMATH
 * That would be cool (However there isn't a whole lot of volunteers available currently for the non-text side of things)? If you're looking for audio, Audio Wikinews is desperatly looking for more volunteers. For video, Broadcast is kinda dead due to lack of knowledgeable contributors, but if you're willing to bring it back from the grave, that would be great. Welcome to wikinews. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:48, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:Kwangyin

Welcome to Wikinews! Thanks for creating Protesting students arrested for keeping Taiwan's Lo Sheng Sanatorium, articles like this are appreciated. There are a few issues that must be dealt with before it can be published. The most important is that all Wikinews articles must cite sources for the information they contain. Articles should cite sources by using the tag at the bottom of the story. When you click "edit" there are instructions for using the tag underneath the "Save page" button. If your article contains original reporting, you should read the information at original reporting. If you are part of the story that the article is about, you may also wish to consider requesting an interview rather than writing the article yourself.

Discussion about your article will occur on the article talk page. Please go there to start or participate in the discussion with other Wikinews contributors. Keep at it and try to get this article published, which can sometimes be difficult, but you will find that it is worth the effort. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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Wikinews:Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and oversight

In accordance with Wikimedia Policy, the Arbitration Committee has the responsibility and authority to request CheckUser permissions for trusted users on English Wikinews.

Oversight comes after the talk on ALERT, where most people agreed all arbcom members should receive it

Requests for CheckUser and oversight permissions are listed below for the Wikimedia Stewards.

Please direct discussion to the talk page.

User:Cspurrier
Since we are now giving oversight to all arbcom members I suppose I should formally apply --Cspurrier 14:56, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Thunderhead - (talk) 15:27, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Brianmc
Moved from Arbitration Committee which was in turn moved from WN:A.

Following my election to the ArbCom, it was suggested by Thunderhead that I request these privileges. A CU case I could look at has just come up - which I obviously won't be doing. However, it does make Thunderhead's point. My timezone differs enough from the other users with this privilege to be useful in the role. So, vote below - I'm asking my fellow Wikinewsies if they'd trust me with these tools, then I can figure out how to request them from Cary (Yes, already identified myself for OTRS). --Brian McNeil / talk 16:05, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Note this is both privs, checkuser & oversight. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:45, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Arbitration Committee member signatures confirming this request:
 * 1) --Cspurrier 13:55, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 19:46, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) IlyaHaykinson 23:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) –Doldrums(talk) 11:54, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Community member signatures confirming this request:
 * 1) Support as suggester-person Thunderhead - (talk) 16:29, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Adambro 13:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:31, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) —Zachary talk 21:32, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) I trust Brian McNeil with these privileges. --SVTCobra 00:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Chiacomo
Subject to approval by the Arbitration Committee, I request that the oversight and CheckUser permissions held by Chiacomo be removed as this user was not re-elected to the Arbitration Committee as per WN:ARBCOM. Adambro 13:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Arbitration Committee member signatures confirming this request:
 * 1) Oppose Checkuser is not granted because of arbcom status (I kept it when I was not reelected), but rather because the arbcom selected to give it to that person. If we would like to remove the status due to inactivity that shold be done as a seperate vote (I am neutral on if it should be removed due to inactivity)--Cspurrier 13:55, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) No Vote Yet I'll think what my vote will be over the next few days, however I would note that Craig was reviewed in Jan and Also he was a Steward, and was still activeish around here. So, it is slightly different Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 19:58, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Oppose — I agree with Cspurrier, and don't see Checkuser as tied to the arbcom role. I recommend that someone jot down a checkuser policy that includes expiration upon inactivity, and build consensus for it (I'd totally support such a policy), in which case no vote would even be necessary for specific people. -- IlyaHaykinson 23:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Community member signatures confirming this request:
 * 1) Adambro 13:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Comments:
 * A user who has "vanished" should have these privs revoked as they may come back to a different community from the one they were elected to represent. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

 * In response to Cspurrier; In which case I ask the Arbitration Committee to review these rights on the basis that the community no longer feel the user in question should serve on the committee and the user has not been active since March of this year. Adambro 14:04, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Has anyone attempted to contact User:Chiacomo? He has a gmail account [mailto:chiacomo@gmail.com] at which he might respond. Perhaps he is not even interested in keeping these privileges. --SVTCobra 00:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

March 2007
Done on 21:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC) by User:Cspurrier

CheckUser Request 2 - March 2007
The Arbitration Committee requests that the following users be granted CheckUser permissions:
 * 1) User:Brian New Zealand

 * Arbitration Committee member signatures confirming this request:
 * 1) Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 09:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC) (voting as a arbcom member, however I am neutral on myself receiving it)
 * 2) Bawolff ☺☻ 02:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) checkuser ability for an active member will be useful. — Doldrums(talk) 07:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) IlyaHaykinson 11:25, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 5)  ★ MESSED  ROCKER ★  02:40, 16 March 2007 (UTC)  Striking vote because Messed is no longer a member of ArbCom

 * Community member signatures confirming this request:
 * 1)   Thunderhead  ►  02:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) terinjokes | Talk 04:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) --Nzgabriel | Talk 08:29, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) --Brian McNeil / talk 09:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Oversight Request 1 - March 2007
The Arbitration Committee requests that the following users be granted oversight permissions:
 * 1) Bawolff
 * 2) Brian New Zealand
 * 3) Chiacomo
 * 4) Doldrums
 * 5) Ilya Haykinson

Comment so what happens if all six members take the same line? nobody granted oversight? if everyone is granted oversight permission disregarding the terms of their statement, then this exercise is meaningless. perhaps a better approach is to see if there is broad support in the community for the idea of all arbcommies having oversight ability. — Doldrums(talk) 06:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Arbitration Committee member signatures confirming this request:
 * 1) Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 09:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm changing mine, to ditto bawolff's statement and not support myself Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 03:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) I'm going to support everyone but myself. I'm voting neutral on myself as I don't want to seem as if I'm trying to give myself oversight. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:02, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) I will ditto bawolff's statement and not support myself. --Chiacomo (talk) 03:25, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) I am in favor of the ArbCom having oversight permissions as an entity (with all current users at any point in time). IlyaHaykinson 11:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) per Ilya and my comment below. –Doldrums(talk) 12:07, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Support on everyone but myself; neutral on myself.  ★ MESSED  ROCKER ★  02:40, 16 March 2007 (UTC)#  Striking vote because Messed is no longer a member of ArbCom
 * Well I geuss we'd all get it, as one neutral and 5 supports is enough for concensuss. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Community member signatures confirming this request
 * 1)   Thunderhead  ►  02:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) terinjokes | Talk 04:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) --Nzgabriel | Talk 08:29, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) --Brian McNeil / talk 09:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) -Edbrown05 04:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree with Ilya, the entire ArbCom should have these responsibilities. It greatly simplifies the process and we've already voted that these are some of our most trusted community members. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: Fellowwikinews opposed on the talk page.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:30, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


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User talk:88.234.79.83

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MediaWiki:Common.js

/* Any JavaScript here will be loaded for all users on every page load. Some other stuff is located at mediawiki:monobook.js */ /* If you don't know what you are doing, please test/ask for advice before hitting save */ /*Please document this page at Javascript*/ //The jslint stuff just covers the editintro for wikipedians for now.

/*jslint white: true, browser: true, undef: true, nomen: true, eqeqeq: true, bitwise: true, regexp: true, newcap: true, immed: true, indent: 1 */ /*members April, August, December, February, January, July, June, March, May, November, October, September, UTC, dateFunc, dateRegex, getElementById, getElementsByTagName, getTime, href, indexOf, length, oldNews, parseDate, referrer, replace, title

// for backwards compatibility var addLoadEvent = function (func) { $(document).ready(func); }; var importScript = function (s) { mw.loader.load( '/w/index.php?title=' + encodeURIComponent(s) + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' ); }; var importStylesheet = function (s) { mw.loader.load( '/w/index.php?title=' + encodeURIComponent(s) + '&action=raw&ctype=text/css', 'text/css' ); }; // hasClass // Description: Uses regular expressions and caching for better performance. // Maintainers: w:User:Mike Dillon, w:User:R. Koot, w:User:SG var hasClass = (function {    var reCache = {};    return function (element, className) {      return (reCache[className] ? reCache[className] : (reCache[className] = new RegExp("(?:\\s|^)" + className + "(?:\\s|$)"))).test(element.className);   }; });

/*

RSS Feed insert. Only latest news and category. Should we add others?
*/ /* Handled in php - 15080. document.write(''); */

//Zach's Awesome category thingy takes a cat (?cat=foo) and intersects it with published to make an rss feed. Also can take ?lang=bar for other lang /* if (mw.config.get('wgNamespaceNumber') === 14 ) { document.write(''); }*/

try { // containerize RSS feed insert, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong

$(function { if (mw.config.get('wgNamespaceNumber') === 100 && document.getElementById("rssFeedLink")) { //portal with cat of same name var link = document.createElement('link'); link.type = 'application/atom+xml'; link.href = mw.config.get( 'wgScriptPath' ) + '/index.php?title=Special:NewsFeed&feed=atom&categories=Published%7C' + encodeURIComponent( mw.config.get( 'wgTitle' ).replace(' ', "_")) + '&notcategories=No%20publish%7CArchived%7CAutoArchived%7Cdisputed&namespace=0&count=15&ordermethod=categoryadd&stablepages=only'; link.rel = "alternate"; link.title =  'Lastest ' + mw.config.get( 'wgTitle' ) + ' News (RSS)'; document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(link); } });

} catch (e) { // containerize RSS feed insert, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong // ignore }

/*

Dynamic Navigation
*/ // Makes some dynamic nav boxes auto-close. See user:Bawolff/onebox-select.js & Template:Dynamic navigation noncentered // *Tested in MSIE 6, Opera 9.01, and firefox (1.5.0.11 and 2.0.0.something(I think its a 2 at the end) // *Adapted from the dynamic nav box script which is from somewhere on wikipedia

try { // containerize Dynamic Navigation, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong // set up the words in your language var NavigationBarHide = '[ ↑ ]'; var NavigationBarShow = '[ ↓ ]'; var ONCE_NavigationBarHide = '[ ↑ ]'; var ONCE_NavigationBarShow = '[ ↓ ]'; // set up max count of Navigation Bars on page, if there are more, all will be hidden // NavigationBarShowDefault = 0; // all bars will be hidden // NavigationBarShowDefault = 1; // on pages with more than 1 bar all bars will be hidden var NavigationBarShowDefault = 1; var ONCE_NavigationBarShowDefault = 0; // shows and hides content and picture (if available) of navigation bars // Parameters: //    indexNavigationBar: the index of navigation bar to be toggled function ONCE_toggleNavigationBar(ONCE_indexNavigationBar) {  var ONCE_NavToggle = document.getElementById("NavToggleOnce" + ONCE_indexNavigationBar); var ONCE_NavFrame = document.getElementById("NavFrameOnce" + ONCE_indexNavigationBar); if (!ONCE_NavFrame || !ONCE_NavToggle) { return false; }  // if shown now if (ONCE_NavToggle.firstChild.data == ONCE_NavigationBarHide) { for (var ONCE_NavChild = ONCE_NavFrame.firstChild; ONCE_NavChild != null; ONCE_NavChild = ONCE_NavChild.nextSibling) { if (hasClass(ONCE_NavChild, 'NavPic') || hasClass(ONCE_NavChild, 'NavContent')) { ONCE_NavChild.style.display = 'none'; }    }     ONCE_NavToggle.firstChild.data = ONCE_NavigationBarShow; // if hidden now } else if (ONCE_NavToggle.firstChild.data == ONCE_NavigationBarShow) { //Start hiding all open boxes. things with f is loops to close everything for (f = 1; f < 50; f++) { //prevent indef loop var ONCE_f_NavToggle = document.getElementById("NavToggleOnce" + f); var ONCE_f_NavFrame = document.getElementById("NavFrameOnce" + f); if (!ONCE_f_NavFrame || !ONCE_f_NavToggle) { break; }      for (var ONCE_f_NavChild = ONCE_f_NavFrame.firstChild; ONCE_f_NavChild != null; ONCE_f_NavChild = ONCE_f_NavChild.nextSibling) { if (hasClass(ONCE_f_NavChild, 'NavPic') || hasClass(ONCE_f_NavChild, 'NavContent')) { ONCE_f_NavChild.style.display = 'none'; }      }       ONCE_f_NavToggle.firstChild.data = ONCE_NavigationBarShow; }    // open selected one for (var ONCE_NavChild = ONCE_NavFrame.firstChild; ONCE_NavChild != null; ONCE_NavChild = ONCE_NavChild.nextSibling) { if (hasClass(ONCE_NavChild, 'NavPic') || hasClass(ONCE_NavChild, 'NavContent')) { ONCE_NavChild.style.display = 'block'; }    }     ONCE_NavToggle.firstChild.data = ONCE_NavigationBarHide; } } // shows and hides content and picture (if available) of navigation bars // Parameters: //    indexNavigationBar: the index of navigation bar to be toggled function toggleNavigationBar(indexNavigationBar) {  var NavToggle = document.getElementById("NavToggle" + indexNavigationBar); var NavFrame = document.getElementById("NavFrame" + indexNavigationBar); if (!NavFrame || !NavToggle) { return false; }  if (NavToggle.firstChild.data == NavigationBarHide) { // if shown now for (var NavChild = NavFrame.firstChild; NavChild != null; NavChild = NavChild.nextSibling) { if (hasClass(NavChild, 'NavPic') || hasClass(NavChild, 'NavContent')) { NavChild.style.display = 'none'; }     }      NavToggle.firstChild.data = NavigationBarShow; } else if (NavToggle.firstChild.data == NavigationBarShow) { // if hidden now for (var NavChild = NavFrame.firstChild; NavChild != null; NavChild = NavChild.nextSibling) { if (hasClass(NavChild, 'NavPic') || hasClass(NavChild, 'NavContent')) { NavChild.style.display = 'block'; }    }     NavToggle.firstChild.data = NavigationBarHide; } } // adds show/hide-button to navigation bars function createNavigationBarToggleButton {  var indexNavigationBar = 0, ONCE_indexNavigationBar = 0; var NavFrames = document.getElementsByTagName("div"); // iterate over all -elements for (var i=0; NavFrame = NavFrames[i]; i++) { // if found a once navigation bar if (hasClass(NavFrame, 'NavFrame') && hasClass(NavFrame, 'NavOnce')) { ONCE_indexNavigationBar++; var ONCE_NavToggle = document.createElement("a"); ONCE_NavToggle.className = 'NavToggle'; ONCE_NavToggle.setAttribute('id', 'NavToggleOnce' + ONCE_indexNavigationBar); ONCE_NavToggle.setAttribute('href', 'javascript:ONCE_toggleNavigationBar(' + ONCE_indexNavigationBar + ');'); var ONCE_NavToggleText = document.createTextNode(ONCE_NavigationBarHide); ONCE_NavToggle.appendChild(ONCE_NavToggleText); // Find the NavHead and attach the toggle link (Must be this complicated because Moz's firstChild handling is borked) for (var j=0; j < NavFrame.childNodes.length; j++) { if (hasClass(NavFrame.childNodes[j], "NavHead")) { NavFrame.childNodes[j].appendChild(ONCE_NavToggle); }      }       NavFrame.setAttribute('id', 'NavFrameOnce' + ONCE_indexNavigationBar); } else if (hasClass(NavFrame, "NavFrame")) { // if found a navigation bar indexNavigationBar++; var NavToggle = document.createElement("a"); NavToggle.className = 'NavToggle'; NavToggle.setAttribute('id', 'NavToggle' + indexNavigationBar); NavToggle.setAttribute('href', 'javascript:toggleNavigationBar(' + indexNavigationBar + ');'); var NavToggleText = document.createTextNode(NavigationBarHide); NavToggle.appendChild(NavToggleText); // Find the NavHead and attach the toggle link (Must be this complicated because Moz's firstChild handling is borked) for (var j=0; j < NavFrame.childNodes.length; j++) { if (hasClass(NavFrame.childNodes[j], "NavHead")) { NavFrame.childNodes[j].appendChild(NavToggle); }      }       NavFrame.setAttribute('id', 'NavFrame' + indexNavigationBar); }  }   // if more Navigation Bars found than Default: hide all if (NavigationBarShowDefault < indexNavigationBar) { for (var i=1; i<=indexNavigationBar; i++) { toggleNavigationBar(i); }  }   if (ONCE_NavigationBarShowDefault < ONCE_indexNavigationBar) { for (var i=1; i<=ONCE_indexNavigationBar; i++) { ONCE_toggleNavigationBar(i); }  } } $(createNavigationBarToggleButton);

} catch (e) { // containerize Dynamic Navigation, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong // ignore } // END Dynamic Navigation Bars // ============================================================

/*

Comment tabs
*/

try { // containerize comments stuff, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong

if (!mw.config.get('wgIsMainPage')) importScript("MediaWiki:Comments.js"); // Other comments stuff

jQuery(function {  // needs css (look for "other comments/lqt stuff" in mediawiki:Common.css if (mw.config.get('wgNamespaceNumber') !== 102) return;

var elms = jQuery('.lqt_start_discussion a'); if (elms.length === 0) return; elms.button; jQuery('.lqt_header_commands li:first').addClass('lqt-edit-introduction'); });

} catch (e) { // containerize comments stuff, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong // ignore }

/*

CGI:IRC login form
*/ // See mediawiki:Irc.js. If this does something stupid, blame user:Bawolff

try { // containerize CGI:IRC login form, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong

//load irc login box if on page $(document).ready( function {   if (document.getElementById("cgiircbox")) {      importScript( 'MediaWiki:Irc.js' );   } });

} catch (e) { // containerize CGI:IRC login form, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong // ignore }

/*

Tabber code
*/

/* This was originally from http://www.barelyfitz.com/projects/tabber/ This has been modified very slightly for wikinews by user:Bawolff (you can use any of my modifications under the same license as the original author specified)

Please note, only the tabber code is under the MIT license. (the rest is probably either cc-by, GPL, or some combination thereof. its not really clear)

Note i'm slowly modifying to use hasClass as it is supposedly more efficient

=
===================================== $Id: tabber.js,v 1.9 2006/04/27 20:51:51 pat Exp $ tabber.js by Patrick Fitzgerald pat@barelyfitz.com

Documentation can be found at the following URL: http://www.barelyfitz.com/projects/tabber/

License (http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php)

Copyright (c) 2006 Patrick Fitzgerald, modifed by Bawolff

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN  CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE. ==================================================*/

try { // containerize Tabber code, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong

function tabberObj(argsObj) { var arg; /* name of an argument to override */

/* Element for the main tabber div. If you supply this in argsObj, then the init method will be called. */ this.div = null;

/* Class of the main tabber div */ this.classMain = "tabber";

/* Rename classMain to classMainLive after tabifying (so a different style can be applied) */ this.classMainLive = "tabberlive";

/* Class of each DIV that contains a tab */ this.classTab = "tabbertab";

/* Class to indicate which tab should be active on startup */ this.classTabDefault = "tabbertabdefault";

/* Class for the navigation UL */ this.classNav = "tabbernav";

/* add space between tabs to force line break. use class UseTabBreaks*/ this.spaceTabs = false;

/* When a tab is to be hidden, instead of setting display='none', we    set the class of the div to classTabHide. In your screen stylesheet you should set classTabHide to display:none. In your print stylesheet you should set display:block to ensure that all the information is printed. */ this.classTabHide = "tabbertabhide";

/* Class to set the navigation LI when the tab is active, so you can use a different style on the active tab. */ this.classNavActive = "tabberactive";

/* Elements that might contain the title for the tab, only used if a    title is not specified in the TITLE attribute of DIV classTab. */ this.titleElements = ['h2','h3','h4','h5','h6'];

/* Should we strip out the HTML from the innerHTML of the title elements? This should usually be true. */ this.titleElementsStripHTML = true;

/* If the user specified the tab names using a TITLE attribute on    the DIV, then the browser will display a tooltip whenever the mouse is over the DIV. To prevent this tooltip, we can remove the TITLE attribute after getting the tab name. */ this.removeTitle = true;

/* If you want to add an id to each link set this to true */ this.addLinkId = false;

/* If addIds==true, then you can set a format for the ids. will be replaced with the id of the main tabber div. will be replaced with the tab number (tab numbers starting at zero) will be replaced with the tab number (tab numbers starting at one) will be replaced by the tab title (with all non-alphanumeric characters removed) */ this.linkIdFormat = ' nav ';

/* You can override the defaults listed above by passing in an object: var mytab = new tabber({property:value,property:value}); */ for (arg in argsObj) { this[arg] = argsObj[arg]; }

/* Create regular expressions for the class names; Note: if you change the class names after a new object is created you must also change these regular expressions. */ this.REclassMain = new RegExp('\\b' + this.classMain + '\\b', 'gi'); this.REclassMainLive = new RegExp('\\b' + this.classMainLive + '\\b', 'gi'); this.REclassTab = new RegExp('\\b' + this.classTab + '\\b', 'gi'); this.REclassTabDefault = new RegExp('\\b' + this.classTabDefault + '\\b', 'gi'); this.REclassTabHide = new RegExp('\\b' + this.classTabHide + '\\b', 'gi');

/* Array of objects holding info about each tab */ this.tabs = new Array;

/* If the main tabber div was specified, call init now */ if (this.div) {

this.init(this.div);

/* We don't need the main div anymore, and to prevent a memory leak in IE, we must remove the circular reference between the div and the tabber object. */   this.div = null; } }

/*-- Methods for tabberObj --*/

tabberObj.prototype.init = function(e) { /* Set up the tabber interface.

e = element (the main containing div)

Example: init(document.getElementById('mytabberdiv')) */

var childNodes, /* child nodes of the tabber div */ i, i2, /* loop indices */ t, /* object to store info about a single tab */ defaultTab=0, /* which tab to select by default */ DOM_ul, /* tabbernav list */ DOM_li, /* tabbernav list item */ DOM_a, /* tabbernav link */ aId, /* A unique id for DOM_a */ headingElement; /* searching for text to use in the tab */

/* Verify that the browser supports DOM scripting */ if (!document.getElementsByTagName) { return false; }

/* If the main DIV has an ID then save it. */ if (e.id) { this.id = e.id; }

/* Clear the tabs array (but it should normally be empty) */ this.tabs.length = 0;

/* Loop through an array of all the child nodes within our tabber element. */ childNodes = e.childNodes; for(i=0; i < childNodes.length; i++) {

/* Find the nodes where class="tabbertab" */ if(childNodes[i].className &&      hasClass(childNodes[i], this.classTab)) { /* Create a new object to save info about this tab */ t = new Object; /* Save a pointer to the div for this tab */ t.div = childNodes[i]; /* Add the new object to the array of tabs */ this.tabs[this.tabs.length] = t;

/* If the class name contains classTabDefault, then select this tab by default. */     if (childNodes[i].className.match(this.REclassTabDefault)) { defaultTab = this.tabs.length-1; }   }  }

/* Create a new UL list to hold the tab headings */ DOM_ul = document.createElement("ul"); DOM_ul.className = this.classNav; /* Loop through each tab we found */ for (i=0; i < this.tabs.length; i++) {

t = this.tabs[i];

/* Get the label to use for this tab: From the title attribute on the DIV, Or from one of the this.titleElements[] elements, Or use an automatically generated number. */   t.headingText = t.div.title;

/* Remove the title attribute to prevent a tooltip from appearing */ if (this.removeTitle) { t.div.title = ''; }

if (!t.headingText) {

/* Title was not defined in the title of the DIV, So try to get the title from an element within the DIV. Go through the list of elements in this.titleElements (typically heading elements ['h2','h3','h4']) */     for (i2=0; i2]+>/g,""); }	 break; }     }    }

if (!t.headingText) { /* Title was not found (or is blank) so automatically generate a        number for the tab. */     t.headingText = i + 1; }

/* Create a list element for the tab */ DOM_li = document.createElement("li");

/* Save a reference to this list item so we can later change it to      the "active" class */ t.li = DOM_li;

/* Create a link to activate the tab */ DOM_a = document.createElement("a"); DOM_a.appendChild(document.createTextNode(t.headingText)); DOM_a.href = "javascript:void(null);"; DOM_a.title = t.headingText; DOM_a.onclick = this.navClick;

/* Add some properties to the link so we can identify which tab was clicked. Later the navClick method will need this. */   DOM_a.tabber = this; DOM_a.tabberIndex = i;

/* Do we need to add an id to DOM_a? */   if (this.addLinkId && this.linkIdFormat) {

/* Determine the id name */ aId = this.linkIdFormat; aId = aId.replace(/ /gi, this.id); aId = aId.replace(/ /gi, i); aId = aId.replace(/ /gi, i+1); aId = aId.replace(/ /gi, t.headingText.replace(/[^a-zA-Z0-9\-]/gi, ''));

DOM_a.id = aId; }

/* Add the link to the list element */ DOM_li.appendChild(DOM_a);

/* Add the list element to the list */ DOM_ul.appendChild(DOM_li);

/* add a space to get line breaks */ if (this.spaceTabs) { DOM_ul.appendChild(document.createTextNode(" ")); }

}

/* Add the UL list to the beginning of the tabber div */ e.insertBefore(DOM_ul, e.firstChild);

/* Make the tabber div "live" so different CSS can be applied */ e.className = e.className.replace(this.REclassMain, this.classMainLive);

/* Activate the default tab, and do not call the onclick handler */ this.tabShow(defaultTab);

/* If the user specified an onLoad function, call it now. */ if (typeof this.onLoad == 'function') { this.onLoad({tabber:this}); }

return this; };

tabberObj.prototype.navClick = function(event) { /* This method should only be called by the onClick event of an  element, in which case we will determine which tab was clicked by    examining a property that we previously attached to the  element.

Since this was triggered from an onClick event, the variable "this" refers to the  element that triggered the onClick event (and not to the tabberObj).

When tabberObj was initialized, we added some extra properties to the  element, for the purpose of retrieving them now. Get the tabberObj object, plus the tab number that was clicked. */

var rVal, /* Return value from the user onclick function */ a, /* element that triggered the onclick event */ self, /* the tabber object */ tabberIndex, /* index of the tab that triggered the event */ onClickArgs; /* args to send the onclick function */

a = this; if (!a.tabber) { return false; }

self = a.tabber; tabberIndex = a.tabberIndex;

/* Remove focus from the link because it looks ugly. I don't know if this is a good idea... */ a.blur;

/* If the user specified an onClick function, call it now. If the function returns false then do not continue. */ if (typeof self.onClick == 'function') {

onClickArgs = {'tabber':self, 'index':tabberIndex, 'event':event};

/* IE uses a different way to access the event object */ if (!event) { onClickArgs.event = window.event; }

rVal = self.onClick(onClickArgs); if (rVal === false) { return false; } }

self.tabShow(tabberIndex);

return false; };

tabberObj.prototype.tabHideAll = function { var i; /* counter */

/* Hide all tabs and make all navigation links inactive */ for (i = 0; i < this.tabs.length; i++) { this.tabHide(i); } };

tabberObj.prototype.tabHide = function(tabberIndex) { var div;

if (!this.tabs[tabberIndex]) { return false; }

/* Hide a single tab and make its navigation link inactive */ div = this.tabs[tabberIndex].div;

/* Hide the tab contents by adding classTabHide to the div */ if (!div.className.match(this.REclassTabHide)) { div.className += ' ' + this.classTabHide; } this.navClearActive(tabberIndex);

return this; };

tabberObj.prototype.tabShow = function(tabberIndex) { /* Show the tabberIndex tab and hide all the other tabs */

var div;

if (!this.tabs[tabberIndex]) { return false; }

/* Hide all the tabs first */ this.tabHideAll;

/* Get the div that holds this tab */ div = this.tabs[tabberIndex].div;

/* Remove classTabHide from the div */ div.className = div.className.replace(this.REclassTabHide, '');

/* Mark this tab navigation link as "active" */ this.navSetActive(tabberIndex);

/* If the user specified an onTabDisplay function, call it now. */ if (typeof this.onTabDisplay == 'function') { this.onTabDisplay({'tabber':this, 'index':tabberIndex}); }

return this; };

tabberObj.prototype.navSetActive = function(tabberIndex) { /* Note: this method does *not* enforce the rule that only one nav item can be active at a time. */

/* Set classNavActive for the navigation list item */ this.tabs[tabberIndex].li.className = this.classNavActive;

return this; };

tabberObj.prototype.navClearActive = function(tabberIndex) { /* Note: this method does *not* enforce the rule that one nav should always be active. */

/* Remove classNavActive from the navigation list item */ this.tabs[tabberIndex].li.className = '';

return this; };

/*==================================================*/

function tabberAutomatic(tabberArgs) { /* This function finds all DIV elements in the document where class=tabber.classMain, then converts them to use the tabber interface.

tabberArgs = an object to send to "new tabber" */

var tempObj, /* Temporary tabber object */ divs, /* Array of all divs on the page */ i; /* Loop index */

if (!tabberArgs) { tabberArgs = {}; }

/* Create a tabber object so we can get the value of classMain */ tempObj = new tabberObj(tabberArgs);

/* Find all DIV elements in the document that have class=tabber */

/* First get an array of all DIV elements and loop through them */ divs = document.getElementsByTagName("div"); for (i=0; i < divs.length; i++) { /* Is this DIV the correct class? */   if (divs[i].className &&	hasClass(divs[i], tempObj.classMain)) {

if (hasClass(divs[i], "UseTabBreaks")) { tabberArgs.spaceTabs = true; }     /* Now tabify the DIV */ tabberArgs.div = divs[i]; divs[i].tabber = new tabberObj(tabberArgs); } } /****** Begin special case links for the howdy template. This is kind of ugly, but as good a place as any to stick the code.

Creates magic links for certain ids, in certain tab boxes var howdy = document.getElementById('HowdyWelcomeTemplate'); if (howdy) { var policy = document.getElementById('HowdyWelcomeTemplatePolicy'); var talk = document.getElementById('HowdyWelcomeTemplateDiscussions'); var write = document.getElementById('HowdyWelcomeTemplateWrite'); var a;   if (talk) { a = document.createElement('a'); a.href = "#"; a.onclick = function {howdy.tabber.tabShow(2); return false;} //show tab 3 a.appendChild(talk.firstChild); talk.appendChild(a);

}   if (policy) { a = document.createElement('a'); a.href = "#"; a.onclick = function {howdy.tabber.tabShow(1); return false;} //show tab 2 a.appendChild(policy.firstChild); policy.appendChild(a); }   if (write)  { a = document.createElement('a'); a.href = "#"; a.onclick = function {howdy.tabber.tabShow(3); return false;} //show tab 4 a.appendChild(write.firstChild); write.appendChild(a); } }

/******* End special case code for special links return this; }

/*==================================================*/

function tabberAutomaticOnLoad(tabberArgs) { $(function {   tabberAutomatic(tabberArgs);  }); }

/*==================================================*/

/* Run tabberAutomaticOnload unless the "manualStartup" option was specified */

if (typeof tabberOptions == 'undefined') {

tabberAutomaticOnLoad;

} else {

if (!tabberOptions['manualStartup']) { tabberAutomaticOnLoad(tabberOptions); }

}

} catch (e) { // containerize Tabber code, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong // ignore }

/* End Tabber. Note, code after this line probably is not under the MIT license.

/*

Miscellaneous/Other
*/

try { // containerize miscellaneous stuff, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong

// use User:TheFearow's perpage css/js code. Includes MediaWiki:common.css/PAGENAME and MediaWiki:common.js/PAGENAME importStylesheet("MediaWiki:common.css/" + mw.config.get('wgPageName')); importScript("MediaWiki:common.js/" + mw.config.get('wgPageName')); // lynchpin for dialog

//Bawolff's modified ticker. if all goes well, will switch over shortly $(function {   if ((window.disable_ticker2 !== true) && (document.getElementById("singleTickerForPage") || document.getElementById('enableTickers'))) {      importScript("MediaWiki:ticker2.js");   } });

var load_extratabs = true;

// edit tools selectbox (see MediaWiki:Edittools and MediaWiki:Edittools.js) var load_edittools = true; importScript("MediaWiki:Edittools.js");

//Twitter/facebook etc. See template:Social bookmarks //makes stuff in id="social_bookmarks" open in new window //and dynamically re-writes links to twitter to shorten urls var newSmallPopup = function(url) { return (function { window.open(url, "_blank", "width=640,height=480,menubar,resizable,scrollbars,status,toolbar"); return false; }); }

$(function { var soc = document.getElementById('social_bookmarks'); if (soc) { var links = soc.getElementsByTagName('a') for (i=0;i<links.length;i++) { if ( links[i].href.indexOf("http://twitter.com/?status") === 0) { /*isTwitter*/ links[i].href = "http://twitter.com/?status=" + encodeURIComponent("Look what I found on Wikinews: http://enwn.net/+" + mw.config.get( 'wgArticleId' )); //enwn.net is owned by ShakataGaNai } links[i].onclick = newSmallPopup(links[i].href); }}});

} catch (e) { // containerize miscellaneous stuff, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong // ignore }

/****************** Begin editintro stuff This makes a custom editintro for people editing old pages, or coming directly from 'pedia maintainer: User:bawolff try { // containerize editintro stuff, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong

function addEditIntro(template) { //This function assumes that all edit links are in proper order (as in the title arg is first argument), and proper case //This function appends &editintro=template to any link that edits the CURRENT page. //template parameter should already be escaped

//var as = document.getElementsByTagName('a'); var bodyContent = document.getElementById('bodyContent'); var list = $(bodyContent ? bodyContent : document).find("span.editsection").toArray; list.push( document.getElementById('ca-edit') );

for (var i = 0; i < list.length; i++) { var a = list[i].getElementsByTagName('a')[0]; if (!a) { continue; //just in case } if (a.href.indexOf('&action=edit') === -1) { //if not an edit link continue; } if (a.href.indexOf('?title=' + mw.config.get('wgPageName')) === -1) { //not a link to this page continue; } if (a.href.indexOf('&editintro') !== -1) { //if it already has an editintro don't add another continue; } a.href = a.href + '&editintro=' + template; }

}

function doEditIntro { //called onload try { if (mw.config.get('wgNamespaceNumber') !== 0 || mw.config.get('wgPageName') === 'Main_Page') { return; } var notCurrent = doEditIntro.oldNews; var fromPedia = (document.referrer.indexOf('http://en.wikipedia.org') === 0); if (notCurrent) { addEditIntro('Template:Editintro_notcurrent'); } else if (fromPedia) { addEditIntro('Template:Editintro_from_wikipedia'); } } catch (e) { //in case of different skin and can't find cat links or something. }

}

doEditIntro.oldNews = function { var cats = document.getElementById('catlinks').getElementsByTagName('a'); var pubDate, pubCat, archiveCat, tmp, catName; for (var i = 0; i < cats.length; i++) { catName = cats[i].title; tmp = doEditIntro.parseDate(catName); if (!isNaN(tmp)) { pubDate = tmp; } if (catName === "Category:Published") { pubCat = true; } if (catName === "Category:Archived" || catName === "Category:AutoArchived") { archiveCat = true; } } //end getting cats

if (!pubDate || !pubCat || archiveCat) { //not in a date category, not published, or already archived. return false; } if (((new Date).getTime - pubDate) > 24 * 60 * 60 * 1000) { //if more than 24h elasped return true; } else { return false; } }

doEditIntro.parseDate = function (datestring) { // + sign converts to number //Returns NaN in even of parse failure. var date = datestring.replace(doEditIntro.dateRegex, doEditIntro.dateFunc); if (date === datestring) { return NaN; } return +date; } doEditIntro.dateRegex = /^Category:(January|February|March|April|May|June|July|August|September|October|November|December) (\d\d?), (20\d\d)$/;

doEditIntro.dateFunc = function (str, month, day, year) { //Since JS month starts at month 0 var months = {'January' : 0, 'February': 1, 'March': 2, 'April': 3, 'May': 4, 'June': 5, 'July': 6, 'August': 7, 'September': 8, 'October': 9, 'November': 10,  'December': 11};

return Date.UTC(year, months[month], day); } $(doEditIntro);

} catch (e) { // containerize editintro stuff, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong // ignore }

//See User:ShakataGaNai/Enwn.net //based on http://enwn.net/bookmark.php

//adds a button to the toolbar to shorten the url of the page. /* enwn.net seems down --2016-04-13 $(function {  mw.util.addPortletLink('p-tb', "javascript:open('http://enwn.net/api.php?m=create&url='+escape(document.URL),%20'_new','width=300,height=100');void%200;", 'Shorten URL', 'enwn-url-shortener', 'Make a enwn.net shortcut for this page'); });

try { // containerize feedbackhack, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong

if (mw.config.get('wgIsArticle')) importScript('MediaWiki:Gadget-Feedbackhack.js'); //load feedback form styles

} catch (e) { // containerize feedbackhack, to protect other stuff if it goes wrong // ignore }

title: MediaWiki:Common.js