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Hi, have a read of Vandalism Dan100 (Talk) 07:50, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for spotting my omission on the vandalism page, and fixing it! Dan100 (Talk) 21:35, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

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German Constitutional Court green-lights early elections call

August 25, 2005

The German federal Constitutional Court, the Bundesverfassungsgericht, has dismissed the complaints by two Members of the Bundestag against the dissolving of the parliament and removed the last obstacle on the road to early elections on September 18th. Jelena Hoffmann from chancellor Gerhard Schröder's Socialdemocrats and Werner Schulz from the Greens, which are also members of the government, claimed that the loss of confidence by Schröder on July 1st was orchestrated and that President Horst Köhler had therefore no right to dissolve the Bundestag on July 21st.

The majority of the court, voting 7:1, disagreed with that assessment. It ruled, that Schröder's declaration, saying he does not have a reliable majority in parliament for his reform programme, is "plausible" and added that the Constitution grants the chancellor wide freedom in that matter.

Representatives of all major parties have welcomed the decision.

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RTÉ's Eddie Hobbs attracts massive audience

August 25, 2005

In Ireland, RTÉ's new "Rip Off Republic" TV series has attracted a record audience of 667,000 for its second show, making it one of Ireland's top TV programs. The second show broadcast on Monday 15th August captured 50.5% of all TV viewers in Ireland.

The series which contains four shows broadcast from Dublin City University's "Helix" centre, aims to expose over pricing and the exploitation of consumers in Ireland. Hosted by financial advisor Eddie Hobbs, the show has attracted huge media commentry, particularly as it has attracted the attention of the governments main party, Fianna Fail.

The main argument against the show has been that it generalises issues and makes exaggerated claims - for example it claimed that restaurants make a 300%+ profit on a typical bottle of wine, leading the viewer to believe that all businesses are making such a profit. This claim has since come under attack by restaurant owners nationwide. Other arguments against the show have stated that while inflation is less than 3%, wage growth is over 6% meaning people are still better off.

The third show will be broadcast on 29th August at 9.30pm on RTÉ One. It will focus on the transport sector in Ireland.


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Results of 2005 German federal election

September 18, 2005

Red-Green alliance loses majority, yet future government uncertain
The alliance consisting of chancellor Gerhard Schröder's Social Democrats (SPD) and the Greens has lost its majority. And while Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats (CDU) got the most votes it performed much worse than projected and the SPD is only three seats behind thanks to several overhang seats. But that could change slightly, when the outstanding by-election in Dresden is over. So who will govern the country for the next four years is completely uncertain. Both Schröder and Merkel reaffirmed their ambitions for the office of chancellor. But neither the CDU and the Free Democrats (FDP) nor SPD and the Greens have a majority of seats in the Bundestag. A grand coalition between the CDU and the SPD now seems to be the likely option for a future government. But also a SPD-Greens-FDP or a CDU-Greens-FDP coalition seems possible. However FDP chair Guido Westerwelle said this party would not be available for a coalition with the SPD. The Left also doesn't want to form a coalition with any of the parties in Bundestag. They, along with the Free Democrats, are the only real winners of this election. After The Left only had 2 MPs in the last Bundestag, they are now stronger than ever before, getting 54 seats. The Free Democrats also scored one of their best results in their history, gaining 3% and getting 61 seats, which makes them the third biggest party in the Bundestag.

CDU/CSU

 * Angela Merkel, CDU chair: "The campaign is over. We have the mandate to form the government. [...] We will talk with all parties except The Left."
 * Edmund Stoiber, CSU chair: "CDU/CSU is biggest fraction in the German Bundestag. [That means that] Mrs. Merkel has got the mandate for governance [...]. CSU [...] will do everything to succeed and to form a stable government [...]."
 * The governor of North Rhine-Westphalia, Jürgen Rüttgers (CDU): "Frankly, I'm disappointed by the result. [...] But whats important is that the red-green alliance has lost its majority."
 * Markus Söder, CSU: "It's certain. Red-Green is history. Gerhard Schröder is history. [...] The Germans want a political change."

SPD

 * Chancellor Gerhard Schröder: "We have achieved something that many journalists have thought to be impossible. I'm proud of the people in our country. [...] Those who wanted a change in the office of chancellor have failed miserably. I feel responsible to ensure that this country will have a stable government under my leadership. If Merkel wants to form a government with the FDP and the Greens I can't stop her. But she won't form a government with my SPD under her leadership."
 * Franz Müntefering, SPD chair: "The result of the CDU is a personal defeat for Mrs. Merkel. [...] The people have confidence in Gerhard Schröder, not Merkel. [...] This result is a huge success for the German Social Democrats."
 * Berlin mayor Klaus Wowereit, SPD: "The people have said: 'Angela Merkel does not have our trust'. The voters actually wanted Gerhard Schröder as chancellor."

FDP

 * Guido Westerwelle, FDP chair: "We are the winners of this day. [...] Now its about a good policy for our country.
 * Jörg van Essen, FDP: "Our program was crystal clear. That's why the people voted for us."

Greens

 * Joschka Fischer, Greens: "We have to admit that red-green does not have a majority. But we can also see that Merkel's policy of social coldness also does not have a majority."
 * Katrin Göring-Eckardt, Greens: "The result confirmed our campaign for a safe environment. [...] We are ready for opposition."

The Left

 * Lothar Bisky, The Left chair: "We will establish a strong opposition against a policy that discriminates the underprivileged."
 * Gregor Gysi, The Left: "There is a majority left of the CDU. [...]The people want more social justice, higher wages."

Background
About 61,9 million citizens were eligible to participate in this early election to the 16th German Bundestag. It became necessary because chancellor Schröder deliberately lost a motion of confidence on July 1st. 3648 candidates are competing for the 598 seats (more in case of overhang seats) in the Bundestag. The voters in the constituency of Dresden I are not participating in today's election, the death of a candidate there forced a delayed by-election for the 2nd of October. The all dominating topics of the election campaign were unemployment and the state of the German economy. Other hot issues include a taxation reform and changes to the health insurance system. The race was wide open till the end. Contrary to tradition, all parties concluded their campaigns on Saturday rather than Friday.

Coalitions
All parties say the possible coalitions exclude the Left, who might support the minority government of SPD-Greens. The Grand coalition (CDU/SPD) is possible only with Schroeder in power according to Schroeder, and only with Merkel in power according to Merkel.

The traffic light coalition (SPD-Green-FDP) is excluded by FDP. CDU is likely to try to lure the Greens into coalition, the only option that was not excluded. Also possible are the minority governments. It is still not clear who will be the new leader, and both CDU and SPD claim the right to appoint new chancellor. Although the leftists won, it is possible that conservatives will form government if Greens are willing.

Preliminary Results
Participation: 77.7%

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First encyclopedic dictionary of the Black Sea released

August 28, 2005

A new work has been just added to the list of the works on Turkey that have been made in recent years including the genres of folklore, travel, monography and encyclopedia. "Encyclopedic Dictionary of Black Sea" by Özhan Öztürk is also a first of its field. Etymological explanations are also given for the articles in the encyclopedic dictionary that is a product of work with both original resources and rather rich bibliographies.

Encyclopedic Dictionary of Blacksea, a source for many answers on the Black Sea region of Anatolia, looks like a work of a great labor. The dictionary is being published by Heyamola Publications and printed only in limited numbers. It can be a scientific resource for those who are interested in the history, culture and folklore of Black Sea.

The author of the encyclopedia evaluates his work of 1260 pages: "'I don’t know why no archeological excavations have been made in the Pontic coast of Anatolia. Querying why no excavations have been made in such a region that has a dense settlement as mentioned in Anabasis of Xenophon (B.C 401) is not the subject of this book. However, undoubtedly it will not be an optimistic experience to see that less excavations have been made here than in Crimea and Colchis. Another interesting and discuss-worthy issue is why a realistic analysis of the original names of villages and quarters, used by the people even after the changes of the names in Republic era, is not been made in works on the region’s culture and history, including studies in Turkish. Limiting myself to cities as Ordu, Giresun, Trabzon, Rize and Artvin, I worked on original words, idioms and toponyms used by Turkish dialect speakers, independent from their native language. I made comparisons with vernaculars from surrounding cities including Samsun, Erzurum and Gümüşhane, Anatolia, and from some surrounding countries. I hope that the comparison of the original toponyms with equivalents from Anatolia, Greece/Hellas, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan and other Turkish states could be useful for those interested in regional history, and influential for researchers.'"

While some village names in regions do match with the villages names in Crete and Epirus, no equivalents are found in Anatolia and Northern Hellas. Some village names akin to those in Northern Abkhazia, the motherland of Laz, show remnants of Pelasgi and Thracians, the population of Anatolia and Hellas, prior to the Indo-Europeans. This requires a re-examination not only of Anatolian and regional history, but also of the history of a wider area, ranging from the Caucasus to the Balkans.


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We do not currently allow press releases, due to copyright and npov issues. --Cspurrier 12:03, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Broadband users kicked off service for constant questioning

It needs more sources and I have slight feeling its not exactly news. But I might be wrong. --TUFKAAP 12:22, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Other organisations are certainly deeming this newsworthy now: The Register Dan100 (Talk) 20:14, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

By the looks of it - a large number of users think that it is important.

http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=plusnet

This might be newsworthy for a specialist news site, but not for a general news site. --217.155.134.158 23:11, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

This article kicks off with a blatent POV. Should be 'alleged'. (above IP comment also mine) Moving back to development till someone rewrites, and we can decide if this is newsworthy. Tagging apropriatly. --Barberio 23:18, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

I personally find this article very intereasting and news wrothy. Bawolff 23:25, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Quote from the Content Guide - News is relevant. Being Wikinews — global and internet-based — stories about local news may need to have their relevance explained for our international audience. Stories should appeal to a large number of people.

This doesnt meet that standard. --Barberio 23:28, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

 * standard... there is no standard... they were kicked off because they asked too many questions and raised too much contoversy... what's POV about that --> fact. All the doubting leads to nothingness. -Edbrown05 23:35, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I think this appeals to a large number of people. The majority of people wouldn't want there isp to do this so there intereasted in a story about it happaning to someone else. Also isn't wikinews moving towards more local news anyways, notwidthstanding that this in my opinion is intreasting to an international audiance Bawolff 23:46, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't understand Barberio, I don't think he has the context. -Edbrown05 23:53, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

A lot of things are being claimed as facts in this article with little support. Example - "Woverly ultimately received a telephone call from Plusnet stating that"... No, Wovely *claims* to have received a phone call.

Marking POV and taking back to development. DO NOT REMOVE THESE TAGS TILL THE ARTICLE HAS BEEN RE-WRITEN. I still belive this article not to be widespread enougth in its intrest. --Barberio 10:20, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I don't believe anything Barberio says. -Edbrown05 17:26, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * This is public interest stuff, and important for people to make an informed decision. It seems pretty NPOV to me. This company has 200,000 users, I think it's in the wider public interest to know these things, the sources are provided along with the article so the user can make up their own mind. Controversial, yes. NPOV, yes. --80.229.237.166 18:01, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Part of the problem about whether or not this is POV/NPOV is the fact that we have yet to see a PlusNet response to this other than the termination of services. We are having to rely on the forums (never a good idea since they have limited standards of conduct and accuracy), as well as our own opinions of what is "right","wrong" and "just" in this situation. If anyone has their response, I am interested in knowing what it is. I don't live in the UK, but I can certainly see this type of event occuring in the US and recieving a very similar response.

 * Woverly "claim" stuff put in. -Edbrown05 04:42, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

I've eliminated the npov tag and published, people seem to have cleaned it up a bit. I moved it to Sept. 2, but I did not move it to Sept. 3rd. I hope this is a reasonable compromise between those who feel it is important and those who do not. - Nyarlathotep 00:07, 4 September 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:George H. W. Bush to attend Sydney CEO conference

97% of Americans believe the US congress doesn't represent their(US citizens) best interests
[] "DOBBS: And now, the results of our poll tonight: 97 percent of you responded saying the officials you elected are not representing your interests in Congress; 3 percent say they are"

This according to a CNN poll on Lou Dobbs about 2 weeks ago. If Australia wants to monkey-follow the USA in business,culture and government; this is what you have to look forward to; total hijacking of all major government political parties by big business and you'll be left with no voting choice except either "pepsi" or "coke".imo. These cultists, warmongers/war profiteers[] should not be welcome in any civilized society. It's the ultimate "mafia" convention and Australian citizens are picking up the tab.Paulrevere2005 20:20, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

LMAO, it's not hard to tell who had their hand in this one. Another beaut' job Paul.

Thanks, but I didn't contribute much except some wikis; I thought this[] would be good background info but it was quickly kicked out.Re;LMAO; Maybe it is a bit humorous in a dark way; the richest guys in the world getting the Aussie citizens to pay for the rich guys' parties and plots; but I don't really see the humor. I wonder what would happen if a few hundred of the regular hard working men of Sydney tried to get in and have a few shrimps at one of these parties they're paying for? Now that would be funny, I think. I mean they could at least try; maybe??? Paulrevere2005 20:24, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * What's a shrimp?

"Shrimps on the Bar B"? At least that's what Crocodile Dundee said. Maybe that's just some Hollywood mis-speak?- Paulrevere2005 13:27, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * "Throw another shrimp on the barbie" is a line from an advertising campaign promoting Australian tourism, and featuring Paul Hogan. Aussies actually call shrimps "prawns", but the other word was used because the adds aired in America. - Borofkin 23:43, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Hoax
This story was actually a hoax: The Australian. Hopefully someone will write a new article covering this! Dan100 (Talk) 11:17, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * PS must say I didn't spot this - Ghost did, and then told be about it on IRC. Dan100 (Talk) 11:18, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

 * Another conspiracy theory?("somebody stole the website"). Maybe; sounds to me more like the old bush just didn't like the early publicity..he prefers to slither around in secret. Paulrevere2005 13:32, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Um, I'm not entirely sure how to deal with this. I'll write a new article, but what should be done with this article? Just add some comments to indicate that it was actually a hoax, or do you think it should be deleted? Oh the shame of it all! - Borofkin 23:40, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

New article written and linked to from this article
Okay, I've written George H. W. Bush attendence at CEO conference reported to be hoax, and put a sentence at the top of this article indicating that 'twas a hoax, and pointing to the new article. - Borofkin 05:26, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi,

B/c of the vandalism, this page is again showing up at Australia.

Not sure what can be done about that?

Regards, BenAveling 21:25, 12 November 2005 (UTC)


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User talk:Nyarlathotep

Archives: Monday 17 April 2006 Thursday 24 2008

Older published articles
Please do feel free to read over any older articles I've contributed to, and check out the sources too. But if it's been more than 24 hours past the date of the article, all I'd ask is that not that much is substantially changed, save for minor copyediting or something, before they get archived/protected. Wilhelm 01:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it. :)  Nyarlathotep 01:59, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I mean it, I really would love to have your feedback on those articles. I listed articles I significantly contributed to, on my user page.  Wilhelm 02:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey
Sorry bout that, I hadn't struck out your comment at WN:A, I was just moving the previous user's strikeout so that the indentation was kept uniform. Cirt - (talk) 21:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I knew Markie did it, but no biggie anyway. Nyarlathotep - (talk) 22:06, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. Cirt - (talk) 22:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

My RFA
I am, once again, putting myself up for Rfa. I would appriciate it if you could stop by My RFA and vote. Wheter support or oppose I would appriciate your vote to avoid another situation of having too few votes. Hope you get your vote in before its over this time.-Ryan524 (talk) 23:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

FlaggedRevs
If you have not already seen this, please look, comment, and vote both here and on bugzilla. Further assistance such as contact information for Google would be a very useful detail to share and help in petitioning for a listing in their news index. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:55, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Sarkozy?
Hi,

Sorry Amsterdam didn't happen(she's a mother now anyways) but just wondering what your read on Sarkozy is? Wondering (talk) 22:47, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

You have been put up for desysoping due to inactivity
Hi Nyarlathotep, just as a heads-up, you have been put up for deadminship based on your recent inactivity. If you wish to comment on this, please leave a message here. Thanks, Tempodivalse [talk]  01:55, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Inactivity - Permissions removed
Since you were inactive on Wikinews, we removed your account bits (Administrator, Reviewer). If you become re-active and would like your bits back, simply ask as 'Crat. Thank you. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 18:14, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Tireless Contribution
With all due motivation and enthusiasm, I have been trying to develop Wikinews. I regret to say this but review's are discouraging me at any go. I require your guidance and experience but why do you seem to be so arrogant. After 3 days, having received no comment I have put two of my articles under publish Cricket World Cup: Bangladesh defeated Afghanistan by 105 runs, Demolition of Hindu temples in the US, wrote on the wall ' Get Out ' condemnation around. At least cite a reason for their shortfall, don't remain arrogant. --Abhinav619 (talk) 02:12, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:First encyclopedic dictionary of the Black Sea released

August 2005
I will put this up for deletion if the following points are not met:

 * Proper formating of sources.
 * A second source is added (minimum of two are needed for all articles).
 * Sources must be in English!
 * Someone explains why this is news and not meerly a book review or promotional information.
 * The red links are fixed i.e. link to wikipedia where appliciable. Done

I know the author is new to wikinews, so I accept he/she may not be aware of our policies. Furturemore I wonder has the author mixed up wikinews and wikipedia. → CGorman (Talk) 13:45, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I've fixed up the links, althought im sure some of them are still dead. Feel free to fix the rest as above. → CGorman (Talk) 13:50, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

ISBN magic link
editprotected This page uses an ISBN magic link, a feature which is likely to be replaced sometime soon per the RFC on Mediawiki. In the References, please enclose the word ISBN, and the number immediately after it, inside the ISBN template e.g., which should have no outward effect but ensures that the link to Special:BookSources is maintained when the magic link is deprecated. Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 16:53, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ --SVTCobra 01:21, 16 February 2018 (UTC)


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Brampton MPP to hold community barbeque

August 25, 2005

Bramalea-Gore-Malton-Springdale Member of Provincial Parliament Dr. Kuldip S. Kular invites "everyone" to his community barbecque.

The event lasts from 1 until 4 pm in the northwest corner of Chinguasousy Park, at 9050 Bramalea Road in Brampton. The BBQ is free.

Kular was elected into office in 2003, having come to Campbellton, New Brunswick in 1974 to set up a family medical practice.

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Canadian city announces first Studios of Brampton tour

August 25, 2005

Created by the Brampton Arts Council and the City of Brampton, the Studios of Brampton studio tour will allow residents a chance to view works by dozens of local artists at twelve locations.

The tour will run October 1 & 2 from 10 pm until 4 pm ET.

On the tour are the personal studios of watercolourist Jack Reid, sculpture Marion Bartlett, woodworker Rick Bino, ceramicist Eric Wong, calligrapher and fashion illustrator Rosemarie Gidvani, abstract painter Karen Darling, oil painter John Cutruzzola, stain-glass artist Darlene Robichaud, and watercolourist Gordon Stuart.

Also on the tour is the Art Gallery of Peel, which will be exhibiting Sydney Drum, a Canadian artist based in New York, and Kelly McNeil.

Visual Arts Brampton and Beaux-Arts Brampton will both have line-ups of local artist members. VAB has confirmed displays by William Band, Bridget Doughty, Betty Jean Evans, Marguerite Finlayson, Conrad Mieschke, Keith Moreau, Mary Noble, Olga Rudge, and Elizabeth Patrick.

Sample works representing each location on the tour will be shown at the Brampton City Hall's Atrium Gallery.


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User talk:203.103.152.195

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 * can you confirm that the cricket reports are your own writing? Looks a bit slick that's all :) ClareWhite 15:57, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

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Brampton, Canada and Marikina, Philippines seeing double as cities twin

August 25, 2005 The City of Brampton in Ontario, Canada, and Marikina in the Philippines have recently been "twinned".

Both cities are roughly the same size, both have female mayors, both are near urban destinations (one of Toronto, the other Manila) and feel they can benefit economically with each other. Mayor Susan Fennell of Brampton commented "This twinning agreement between Brampton and Marikina City will not only provide new and exciting economic possibilities, but it is an excellent chance to recognize and celebrate the Filipino community in Brampton. As one of Canada's most diverse cities, Brampton is home to more than 8,000 Filipino residents with a distinct culture, and I am pleased to be able to celebrate that culture with this agreement."

Brampton is also a twin of Plano, Texas.


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Talk:Tropical Storm Katrina threatens Florida, Bahamas

Could someone get rid of all of the caps on this page? It's very annoying. --Leofan7

Done. However, I think I'm going to just trash this article and make a new one. SoberEmu 23:13, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Hurricane
I just went to Yahoo! News and it said that Katrina was a hurricane. I'am just looking for varification. 216.220.231.226 14:54, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

The page is still called Tropical Storm Katrina but it is really a hurricane should there be a change? Ipnumber 15:48, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

+cat
Category:New Orleans Disaster needs to be added here. 65.184.68.155 05:16, 9 February 2006 (UTC)


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Winners of international postcard-sized art exhibit announced

August 25, 2005

Visual Arts Brampton has announced the winners of its Second Annual Snail Mail World Postcard Art Show. Currently on display in the Fridge Front Gallery in Shoppers World, The Snail Mail Show features well over 350 entries from 14 countries around the world. This is up from the previous year's approximately 300 from 6 countries.

Shown in the exhibit is original works from Australia, Belgium, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Malaysia, the United Kingdom, the United States, and Yugoslavia.

Juror Alicia Mitchell BA viewed the show on August 18 to make her selections from the entries received.

Surprisingly, in the process of identifying her choices for each award, Mitcell ended up awarding two sets of relatives. Sarah Baptist won the Juror's Choice Award for Purple, while Ann Baptist won Best Photography for Tires. Nicholas Moreau won Best Snail Art for Albert Einsnail, while his mother Janice Moreau won for Best Use of Medium for Bird Days of Summer.

Best of Theme (Remember) went to Beek's Remembrance of My Father. Brampton Guardian Arts editor Tina Depko awarded the Media Award to child entrant Jessica Taylor's Cat love. Toni DiSano of Ballwin, Montana won Best Fabric Art/Sculpture/Installation for her fabric art piece "Vortex".

Honourable mentions this year were:
 * Judith Bush's photograph/mixed media "Los Baños & Surrounds" or "Altered Landscape/Last Vestiges" (Mountain View, California, USA)
 * Betty Jean Evans' watercolour "Snowy Afternoon" (Brampton, Ontario, Canada)
 * Julie Fina's painting "Mona + Jeanne" (Brampton, Ontario, Canada)
 * Aaron Goulborn's cartoon "The Classics play a classic" (Brampton, Ontario, Canada)
 * Lee's "Brampton" (Brampton, Ontario, Canada)
 * Paulina Su's scratchboard "Type of Wading Bird" (Brampton, Ontario, Canada)
 * Gina Turner's vector art "Who are you looking at?" (Pefferlaw, Ontario, Canada)

A complete list is available on The Snail Mail Show's website.


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User talk:Davodd

Please hit the add comment tab at the top of this page to leave me a message. -- Davodd | Talk ARCHIVE 1 | ARCHIVE 2 | ARCHIVE 3

Thanks Davodd
Thanks for your help when I first joined up. We just hit 200 million daily visits yesterday[]; so I think its working on some level. All the best to you. Paulrevere2005 17:31, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Paul, thats not 200m daily visits - given that theres only about 1,000m intenet users it would be great if you were correct! It means that for every 1m surfers, 200 visit us. → CGorman (Talk) 19:31, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * "Good luck to you all. I hope you prove me wrong." - We will. I, and everyone else, will miss your input hugely. When DV left I was stunned. I wanted to yell NO!!!!! YOU CAN'T DO THAT at him! I feel the same here. You are free to leave if you want, but you will not be forgotten - your impact here has been to great to disappear. Goodbye. → CGorman (Talk) 19:31, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for the very kind suggestions you have made to me in the past; it's Wikinewsies like you that keep this thing rolling. If there was an indcident that "blew your lid", I'd really appreciate it if you'd tell us, perhaps we can improve in that regard.

Best wishes, NGerda 23:19, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

Another thanks
Davodd, it's been a pleasure working with you for the past few months. I know we didn't always see eye-to-eye on issues, but I thank you for bearing my annoyance in order to help this project along. Best wishes to the future. --Mrmiscellanious 01:06, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Farewell / Come back soon?
Davodd — it's been a pleasure having you on this site. Like you, I was not initially sure that this is the proper platform for creating the citizen journalism site. Indeed, I was not even convinced that a wiki for a news is appropriate. I think Wikinews is showing that the Wiki nature of the site is a great positive attribute that is missing from nearly every other news outlet. And yet the site still hasn't proven itself as a good journalism platform.

I really value your input over the many months: you've brought experience, organization, and common sense to our process. You've taught a great number of people a lot about writing, editing. Your experience as a long-time Wikipedian was also tremendously helpful: I think a fair number of Wikinewsies aren't hardcore Wikipedians.

Instead of quitting the project, I encourage you to take a different role. Try an advocacy position, or try to experiment with using credentials. Consider staying and doing administrative duties for a while. Consider sticking around but staying out of the Wikinews: pages and focusing on some topic or regional niche.

Or if you go, take more of a time-out. It is long-time, talented contributors such as you that have a chance to make amateur journalists out of news junkies that stumble onto Wikinews at random and decide to stay. If you could take another few months and see how the site develops later (maybe it's more friendly then), I think you'll find that the book isn't closed on Wikinews. -- IlyaHaykinson 06:33, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks and what they said
Davodd, I'm really sorry to see you leave and agree with everything they've said above. The reporter-level scheme you'd just started was particularly useful in building up writers' confidence and professionalism. I hope you'll consider returning and working on the issues you have a problem with, we need you. But if you do go, thanks for what you did :) ClareWhite 08:37, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi
Why are you leaving? FellowWikiNews 18:17, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I left a year ago. I just came back to update the stats.-- Davodd | Talk 19:56, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Waves
Hello Davodd! -  Amgine | talk en.WN 01:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Sign comments
Please remember to sign all comments with ~. For assistance please ask at the Water cooler. Thank you. --SVTCobra 00:07, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, that was just sloppy of me. -- Davodd | Talk 00:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

PepsiCo names Nooyi CEO as Reinemund retires
Thank you for your work on this article. It reads beautifully now. It was a bit of a hodge-podge as some paragraphs were added by different editors. It is now streamlined. I think I will edit the final sentence which reads a little akward. Sorry, if I sounded a little ticked-off in my response to your critique. Well, I guess I was, it seemed like you just blew in here after a long absence and unpublished a bunch of work that people had been working on all day. Anyway, thanks again for the great rewrite. --SVTCobra 22:11, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Wrong
Not sure if you will read this message since you have left this project.

This is a quote from your user page: "For a project that relies upon unpaid help, being "fun" for volunteers is vital to its future, in my opinion."

In my opinion I do find Wikinews fun. Incredible even. So I hope that I will help Wikinews to continue running well into the future. nzgabriel 08:43, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Shooting an Elephant source?
Davodd,

I'm updating the style guide for a different wiki I work on (Congresspedia) and was wondering where you got the six paraphrased writing tips in "Shooting an Elephant (Style guide). Any help would be much appreciated. You can reach me at ckenny AT congresspedia DOT org or at my talk page. Thanks, Conor Kenny
 * Answred question on COngresspedia userpage. - -- Davodd | Talk 03:13, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

NCAA Sports: Mid-Con name to be dropped in favor of Summit League
Hi Davodd. I am sorry, I guess that I could have notified you directly on your talk page. Most people watch the articles they create, so writing on the article's talk page is usually enough to get their attention. When I raised my sourcing concerns, I had read the source, but didn't realize I had to watch the video. I also waited nearly eight hours before putting the tag on the article. Lastly, while putting the tag on the article does un-publish the article, it does show up in the newsroom as needing attention. --SVTCobra 09:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Just for old-times sake, do you remember this article, PepsiCo names Nooyi CEO as Reinemund retires? You slapped multiple dispute tags on it without contacting me on my talk page. --SVTCobra 09:55, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Not that they are comparable since more than one writer worked on them - and you must admit that looking at the history that the article was not up to Wikinews quality snuff. But, I do believe I did pitch in and help fix the errors and the article was, indeed published. In all, I think we all learned a lot from the process of writing that article.- -- Davodd | Talk 02:29, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did learn a lot from that article (you didn't have to be so gracious as to say that you learned from it, too). It was one of my earliest contributions, and I remember the frustration that it kept getting un-published (I wish I could say they were fond memories). I think I have come a long way, and now know how to write an article in way that rarely gets disputed. I think I can properly credit you for some of that development in my writing. On that note, I am sorry that I tagged your article for unsourced statements. As I have mentioned, it came from overlooking the video link. BTW, I noticed in your user page that you are from Indiana, did you attend a school in the Mid-Con (now Summit League)? I was just wondering, because otherwise it is a pretty random article for someone like you to pop in and write. Cheers, --SVTCobra 03:02, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I cannot believe it
The grease is n the spoon this is the whost day ever

An 81 year old man, 500 children and the NYPD...
The reason I didn't put this in copyvio is that they gave it to us before it was released anywhere else. That being said, they haven't provided original reporting notes so we probably will not be able to publish. Cheers, --SVTCobra 23:39, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

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User:Erikdj

Here looking for news on the Spanish Forks rave bust. Seems it offered less information than other less formal sources. But I guess it just takes time.

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Talk:Brampton MPP to hold community barbeque

Sez "original" - where are the notes? Dan100 (Talk) 18:10, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * There. It's not original, it cites his site. Happy? --  user:zanimum


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US satellite radio provider Sirius unveils portable player

August 25, 2005

Satellite radio provider Sirius Satellite Radio will soon release a portable player which mixes online radio recording with MP3 and Windows Media Audio (WMA) file format playback capabilities.

The S50 unit is bundled with the car dock being sold by Sirius. Users record radio programming from the car dock and transfer the files to the S50. Users can also opt to transfer programming via the home dock, but that device does not come bundled with the S50. Sirius notes that the unit can hold up to 50 hours of satellite programming and MP3/WMA files. The latter is transferred to the system via PC. Users also have the option to listen to live radio broadcasts through the S50.


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Authorities search for victims of Peruvian air crash

August 25, 2005

Rescuers are searching for the victims of the Tans Peru airliner crash which occurred earlier this month. Emergency services rescued 5 survivors on Thursday morning.

TANS say that 41 people were killed and a further 57 injured in this, the fifth airliner crash worldwide this month. The Boeing 737-200 airliner crash-landed in heavy jungle near the city of Pucallpa, 840 kilometers (522 miles) northeast of Lima, the capital city. Peruvian authorities have ordered an investigation and have shipped the aircraft's two flight data recorders, or "black boxes" to the United States for data retrieval.

Jorge Belevan said "We've also found five more survivors and that takes the number (of survivors) to 57. Two people are still missing and there are 41 dead," Local authorities also said that the death toll is likely to rise due to inaccessible location of the crash site. This is the second TANS Peru plane crash in three years, following the January 2003 crash of flight 222 in the Peruvian rainforest. In that plane crash there were no survivors.

Peruvian government lawyer Marco Ochoa said that rescuers are opening the skin of the aircraft to determine whether there are more bodies trapped inside.

Survivors said that the plane was caught in a fierce storm about 10 minutes before the crash. The plane then caught fire and landed in swampland.


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School
Heya, I've deleted School as it was empty. Just thought I'd let you know. --Mrmiscellanious 19:56, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:172.182.196.29

Welcome
172.182.196.29, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! → CGorman (Talk) 19:25, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
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User talk:206.168.82.123

Welcome
206.168.82.123, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! → CGorman (Talk) 19:25, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
 * Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced
 * Introduction - overview of the site
 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
 * Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
 * Style guide - how articles should look before publishing
 * Contents - the contents page.
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * Audio Wikinews could always use more contributors
 * And of course, stories need writing!

title: User talk:206.168.82.123