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Although WN:FAC doesn't work exactly like w:WP:FAC, I still don't feel right outright opposing or supporting without giving some sort of feedback. Due to WN:ARCHIVE rules, some of the comments might not be of much use, although they could help with writing future articles.

US undergraduate commits suicide after 'outing' via webcast
Based on this, I opposed. Matthewedwards (talk) 18:55, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * For my personal preference, there are too many one-sentence paragraphs that could have been merged with others. It's okay if they're emphasising a point, but the ones that begin "One of the anonymous witnesses..." and "The crime of 'transmitting..." aren't really hard-hitting enough to warrant standing out like this
 * "On Sunday 19th violates WN:SG
 * Why does a paragraph say he jumped on a Thursday, and the first paragraph says Wednesday? All sources say Wednesday
 * Because the article covers an event that spans two weeks, inserting a date (and correct day) somewhere in this sentence would have helped the reader put it into greater context: "The following Thursday, Wednesday, September 22, at around 4 p.m., fellow freshman Lauren Garcia saw Clementi leaving the dormitory."
 * "Clementi drove one hour along the New Jersey Turnpike, abandoning his car on the Jersey side." probably doesn't mean much to our international readers
 * "Facebook", not "FaceBook" x2
 * "New York Police Department's Harbour Unit recovered a body of a young man on Wednesday" should be "yesterday"
 * The AP source is dead now.
 * There's an abundance of [...], the NYPost source says, ""It was so quick, as soon as he saw us, he went," said a 45-year-old West New York, NJ, resident who asked that his name not be printed. "He didn't give us an opportunity to do anything." so the [...] isn't necessary here. I haven't checked the other instances of it
 * Looking at the talk page, it wasn't actually published to policy. There were no cats, typos of one person's name that was also picked up on in the peanut gallery.. although they were fixed, do we really want to highlight our mistakes this way?

Wikinews investigates the reconstruction of Pichilemu, Chile after February earthquake

 * "comprises at least 24 villages, such as Ciruelos, Rodeíllo and Espinillo (both also severely damaged by the March 11 earthquake)" -- "both", but 3 are mentioned
 * "The earthquake took place in what it's considered the 'last weekend in the summer;' " -- "it's" is incorrect here
 * "reported El Rancagüino, the most important newspaper in O'Higgins Region," -- doesn't sound neutral, and since O'Higgins Region has been linked already, it doesn't need to be again
 * For future reference, when you pipelink specifics such as "the station reported that a police truck had crashed" and "the post office, which was demolished in July.", the links would have more meaning if they were formatted "the station reported that a local police truck had crashed" and "the post office, which was demolished in July." This lets the reader know he isn't being navigated to a generic link about police or post offices, but specific ones relevant to the story.
 * I assume "to make the city go back to the normality." is a quote translated from Spanish to English. I wonder how this was done? Was it word-for-word translation, or more of a loose translation of an entire sentence? I ask because in normal English usage I think "return the city to normality." is more likely to have been said.
 * typo on "begginning"
 * Some phrasing sounds a bit odd or questionable: "People were also given food, wood (mostly rests from the destroyed kiosks)," -- What are "rests"? Also, mayor's statement ""We are keeping the government informed, we're also organized with some churches [sic, religious organizations] that are working voluntarily in Espinillo, Los Boldos, Alto Ramírez [...] We thank a lot their work, that is not to give them mediaguas [temporary tenements], but something definitive, but I also think they need resources to do it,"" -- was this in English or Spanish because again, I think something got lost in translation. "we're also organized with some churches" probably is supposed to be "we're working with some churches"? While "we thank a lot their work" —> "we are grateful for their work"?
 * Unfortunately, while the article's title tells us it's about the reconstruction, the article itself doesn't begin to tell the reader about the reconstruction efforts until the 6th subsection. I think this article would have had a greater impact if it had been written as two separate articles. One article incorporating the first two-thirds of this one, and being about How the community initally acted and reacted during the earthquakes and tsunami. The second article utilising the final third of this one, and being about the reconstruction.
 * I also felt a bit underwhelmed when it came to the information about the reconstruction efforts. In the first half of the article, it says:
 * "the giant waves ... annihilated its beach and reached the city's square, destroying everything on their way" (emphasis added).
 * "The Agustín Ross architecture in the city was damaged. Agustín Ross Balcony was completely destroyed."
 * "The earthquake destroyed one of Pichilemu's oldest and iconic buildings, the post office,".
 * There's a photo of the Donde Esaú Restaurant, "which was severely damaged by both the tsunami and earthquake.", and according to the owner, the Entre Mar hotel was also destroyed.
 * 600 people in Espinillo were made homeless.

 * However, the two sections that tell the reader about the reconstruction only tell us about a cenotaph that's been erected, the reconstructed Fishermen Store, and designing some kiosks that apparently cost a bit more than before.
 * File:Main_beach-pichilemu-2010eq_edit.jpg shows mud and dirt, and beach and timber everywhere, boats strewn about, cars crashed into each other.
 * When was the beach cleaned up and reopened? All this could have added to the reconstruction part.
 * What about the seafront bars and restaurants that were destroyed? Are they boarded up? Were they reconstructed? Torn down? How are these business owners now making a living?
 * How many days did it take for tow trucks to remove them?
 * Does insurance cover any this? Has the Chilean government pledged financial aid, tax breaks or something?
 * Has the displaced found new homes or alternative, more permanent, residence?

I opposed this one too, but I actually do think that it's not too bad. Other than the odd typo and potential translation mistakes, overall the prose is quite good. The article has great images that are relevant, and aren't file photos. I think some sort of map of the city showing how far inland the waves came, the neighbourhoods that were destroyed and where people sought refuge would have been a great addition, though. And the back-story is, while misplaced, very informative.

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Celtic defeat Aberdeen 9-0

November 7, 2010

In the, have defeated  9 - 0. The game took place in in Glasgow, Scotland on Saturday.

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In the second half, Aberdeen player scored an own goal at 61 minutes. Gary Hooper scored his third goal of the game at 63 minutes. scored the seventh goal at 71 minutes and Anthony Stokes scored the eighth goal of the Clydesdale Bank Premier League game at 74 minutes. scored the ninth and final goal for the team after 85 minutes; it was another penalty shot.

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November 7, 2010 driver won the    held yesterday at  in, Texas.

came in second for, and finished third to win his  after leading through the season. Busch's teammate started from 10th place on the starting grid, but finished 4th in front of. and (Braun Racing) finished behind Truex, Jr. in 6th and 7th. ,, and rounded out the top ten finishers in the race. winner finished 37th, after being involved in an accident on lap 44.

In the Drivers' championship, Keselowski clinched the championship with 5,314 points, 465 ahead of Edwards, and 695 ahead of Busch in third. was scored fourth, Menard was sixth, and Harvick was seventh, after finishing eighth. and Leffler was ninth and tenth. Keselowski now cannot be beaten with only two races to go. "My whole family made so many sacrifices along the way and I'm surrounded by great people. I'm happy and blessed to have this whole team around me. Almost had a win here today and wanted it to work out," he said after the race.

Afterward, Edwards commented, "I had to do everything I could. I got the best restart I could and it ended up giving us the race. I knew if I gave him an inch he would beat us." Busch followed in the press conference and said "Carl Edwards jumped the restart by about three lengths before the restart mark." He was then asked if he should have brought it up to NASCAR, but he answered, "Does it fucking matter? Race is over. Carl Edwards is in victory lane. Nothing you can do about it. Our car was fast in the beginning but didn't have the speed it took at the end of the race. I don't know if it was under the hood or through the corners. It was disappointing finishing second but whatever."


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Talk:Hong Kong flu kills six in Japan

Review of revision 1124778 [Failed]

 * I am sorry but it passes the requirements for . DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:29, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It is still short. I created one longer than this, and other editors said it was still to short.  Nascar 1996   00:30, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Never had an issue before with one like this before. Squeezing a picture into it would make it look longer. Not much more information to add. Even so, it still passes the minimal requirement. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:35, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I've asked for someone elses opinion.  Nascar 1996   00:37, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

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Improper title IMO.
I read the title and I understand that there is nothing is nothing left in Haiti. Why don't change the title to something like "Quake-hit Haiti struck by Hurricane Tomas". Diego Grez return fire 01:19, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Agree, I'm still working on my titles. They are very complicated to get right for me. :)  Nascar 1996   01:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Personally, I'm not a fan of the heading style without caps. New title looks sharp. Qalphaniner 1:31 11/7/10 UTC


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The Catholic church in the Philippines has intervened in various political issues in the country since the very beginning of the country's creation. They take a very medieval attitude towards issues that concern family, and especially women in general. Reproductive Health is certainly a major issue that needs to be tackled by the Philippine Government because many women in the Philippines are suffering from abuse and lack of education on reproductive health. I think the church have overstepped their boundaries in this regard. Everyone in the Philippines is aware that there is a massive population boom problem, amongst the poor. Beggars in the streets - young mothers carrying babies or followed by a number of younger children sniffing glue? This is just one of the many problems brought about due to the lack of education - sex education, reproductive health education, women's rights. The country is crying out for this and due to the "medieval" outlook of the catholic church, the country is massively held back.


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Talk:NASCAR: Edwards wins O'Reilly Auto Parts Challenge, Brad Keselowski clinches Nationwide Series

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The Nationwide Series at the end of the title does not make any sense. Maybe should we add championship again. It would work with the Sprint Cup, because that is also the name for the trophy.  Nascar 1996   14:23, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

 * I can;t for the life of me see why not. Nationwide Series is the name of the championship, therefore he won the Nationwide Series, no? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:04, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

 * I quess, normally the NASCAR world says champioship with it, but it should be okay anyways. They probably understand it.  Nascar 1996   16:29, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Yeah. I put the NASCAR: prefix in to help with that. Perhaps using the word 'championship' in the article would ensure any confusion was cleared up? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

 * I believe it should go at the end, such as, 'NASCAR: Edwards wins O'Reilly Auto Parts Challenge, Brad Keselowski clinches Nationwide Series championship'. If you don't agree it is okay how it is now. Or we could add 'title' instead of 'championship.'  Nascar 1996   16:51, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Perhaps title could be added, but my concern is the length (already very long for a headline). This very much isn;t my sport so I'll leave you the final decision, but if at all possible I'd urge you to leave it. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:53, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

 * As I said above, if you don't agree it is fine to leave it alone.  Nascar 1996   16:55, 7 November 2010 (UTC)


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North Korean military leader Jo Myong Rok dies at age 82

November 7, 2010

One of North Korea's leading military officers has died at the age of 82. Jo's death was announced by North Korea's official news agency, which gave the cause of death as heart disease. Jo was the vice marshal of the, holding the post from 1995 until his death. This made him the military's second-highest officer.

A former fighter pilot for the North Korean army, Jo served in the from 1950 to 1953. After rising through the ranks he became the first vice marshal in 1995. In 2000 he became the first ever North Korean military official to enter the when he met with then , and President.

Jo was a loyal follower of. The Korean Central News Agency said in his obituary that he "devoted his whole life to the sacred struggle for the freedom and independence of the country and the victory of the cause of socialism."

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Wikinews investigates the reconstruction of Pichilemu, Chile after February earthquake

 * "comprises at least 24 villages, such as Ciruelos, Rodeíllo and Espinillo (both also severely damaged by the March 11 earthquake)" -- "both", but 3 are mentioned ✅
 * "The earthquake took place in what it's considered the 'last weekend in the summer;' " -- "it's" is incorrect here ✅ replacing it's with is
 * "reported El Rancagüino, the most important newspaper in O'Higgins Region," -- doesn't sound neutral, and since O'Higgins Region has been linked already, it doesn't need to be again ✅ Delinked O'Higgins Region. Afraid to touch the "most important" thing, but
 * For future reference, when you pipelink specifics such as "the station reported that a police truck had crashed" and "the post office, which was demolished in July.", the links would have more meaning if they were formatted "the station reported that a local police truck had crashed" and "the post office, which was demolished in July." This lets the reader know he isn't being navigated to a generic link about police or post offices, but specific ones relevant to the story. ✅
 * I assume "to make the city go back to the normality." is a quote translated from Spanish to English. I wonder how this was done? Was it word-for-word translation, or more of a loose translation of an entire sentence? I ask because in normal English usage I think "return the city to normality." is more likely to have been said.
 * The source said "hacer que la ciudad vuelva a la normalidad", so I translated it "word-by-word". Same goes for the Mayor quote.
 * typo on "begginning" ✅
 * Some phrasing sounds a bit odd or questionable: "People were also given food, wood (mostly rests from the destroyed kiosks)," -- What are "rests"? Also, mayor's statement ""We are keeping the government informed, we're also organized with some churches [sic, religious organizations] that are working voluntarily in Espinillo, Los Boldos, Alto Ramírez [...] We thank a lot their work, that is not to give them mediaguas [temporary tenements], but something definitive, but I also think they need resources to do it,"" -- was this in English or Spanish because again, I think something got lost in translation. "we're also organized with some churches" probably is supposed to be "we're working with some churches"? While "we thank a lot their work" —> "we are grateful for their work"?
 * Unfortunately, while the article's title tells us it's about the reconstruction, the article itself doesn't begin to tell the reader about the reconstruction efforts until the 6th subsection. I think this article would have had a greater impact if it had been written as two separate articles. One article incorporating the first two-thirds of this one, and being about How the community initally acted and reacted during the earthquakes and tsunami. The second article utilising the final third of this one, and being about the reconstruction.
 * In fact, I was just going to write about the new design of the kiosks, as I had just investigated about that. Then I had the idea of creating a kind of in-depth article on the earthquake in the city.
 * I also felt a bit underwhelmed when it came to the information about the reconstruction efforts. In the first half of the article, it says:
 * "the giant waves ... annihilated its beach and reached the city's square, destroying everything on their way" (emphasis added).
 * "The Agustín Ross architecture in the city was damaged. Agustín Ross Balcony was completely destroyed."
 * "The earthquake destroyed one of Pichilemu's oldest and iconic buildings, the post office,".
 * There's a photo of the Donde Esaú Restaurant, "which was severely damaged by both the tsunami and earthquake.", and according to the owner, the Entre Mar hotel was also destroyed.
 * 600 people in Espinillo were made homeless.

 * However, the two sections that tell the reader about the reconstruction only tell us about a cenotaph that's been erected, the reconstructed Fishermen Store, and designing some kiosks that apparently cost a bit more than before.
 * File:Main_beach-pichilemu-2010eq_edit.jpg shows mud and dirt, and beach and timber everywhere, boats strewn about, cars crashed into each other.
 * When was the beach cleaned up and reopened? All this could have added to the reconstruction part.
 * What about the seafront bars and restaurants that were destroyed? Are they boarded up? Were they reconstructed? Torn down? How are these business owners now making a living?
 * How many days did it take for tow trucks to remove them?
 * Does insurance cover any this? Has the Chilean government pledged financial aid, tax breaks or something?
 * Has the displaced found new homes or alternative, more permanent, residence?

 * As I said before, I had just investigated about the kiosks. I wanted to expand it a bit more with online sources, and that's how the rest of the article came: a combination of old articles.

I opposed this one too, but I actually do think that it's not too bad. Other than the odd typo and potential translation mistakes, overall the prose is quite good. The article has great images that are relevant, and aren't file photos. I think some sort of map of the city showing how far inland the waves came, the neighbourhoods that were destroyed and where people sought refuge would have been a great addition, though. And the back-story is, while misplaced, very informative.

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Vettel wins 2010 Brazilian Grand Prix, securing Constructors' Championship for Red Bull

November 9, 2010 drivers and  took the top two podium places in the Brazilian Formula One Grand Prix at the  in  on Sunday. This secures victory for their two-car Red Bull team in the 2010 Constructors' Cup, with one race left. However, the Drivers' Championship is yet to be decided. The will be the decider in a season of close competition.

Surprisingly, started the race in pole position. But Hülkenberg couldn't delay Vettel beyond the first corner, his being passed later in the opening lap by Webber and 's. Hülkenberg finished 8th, the first car to finish a lap behind the winner.

started 4th, but was overtaken by Alonso after an error. He and teammate saw the chequered flag 4th and 5th.

drivers and  finished 6th and 7th, on the same lap as winner Vettel.

A high-speed accident involving 's triggered a safety car twenty laps from the end, preventing overtaking for several laps and mixing up both lapped and leading cars.

Alonso, who grabbed the remaining podium place, still leads the Drivers' Championship with 246 points. Both Webber and Vettel closed the gap to 8 and 15 points respectively.

Russian prime minister test drives F1 car
Other Formula One racing news came from Russia on Sunday, as Prime Minister Putin tested the of  in. Putin has been known previously to test his skills piloting fighter jets and firefighting aircraft. Early in October, Putin signed a deal for the, to be held at from 2014 onwards.


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Wikinews:Plagiarism

DRAFT FOR NEW GUIDELINE
 * The following text is intended to be shaped into an unambiguous guideline against a common failing of newcomers; namely "casual plagiarism".

Wikinews has a clear, and unambiguous, policy on copyright. That, in and of itself, is of little use where contibutors consider casual use of synonyms, or rough word-reordering holds as a defence against allegations of plagiarism. It is, frankly, nothing of the sort.

On-project, the growing concerns of mainstream media over bloggers, and social media sites, lifting from their work has even been reported upon:

Yes, this makes contributing synthesis articles to Wikinews considerably more difficult. Nobody said writing on Wikinews would be easy. However, those with longer contribution histories can, and will, attest that a productive contribution history article-wise may allow you to shave a couple of years off an Honours degree in journalism.

What you can, and can not, copy is significantly more constrained than in the "blogosphere"; but, Wikinews is not a blog. At its simplest, it is a place to learn the craft of journalistic writing. Such, is nothing like the encyclopedic style of Wikipedia, nor the casual, reflective, style of a personal blog. Yet, within the journalistic form there is scope for creativity.
 * You can stamp your own style onto interviews. Set the scene, then let the answers to questions tell the story.
 * You can write with pace, for sports coverage (avoid the clichés)
 * You can pick the surface off a story every mainstream publication has done with some crafty original research
 * Or, you can join-the-dots archive research.

As a project, Wikinews offers scope for intelligent, creative, and thought-provoking writing.

Yet, contributing is also made more challenging by the constraints of the neutral point of view policy.
 * Within reason, you must give a, possibly time-constrained, right to reply.
 * You may rage at "corporate stonewalling"; yet, it will only be broken down when it - repeatedly - leaves them with mud in their eye.
 * You might think news is easy. If so, you're deluding yourself.

Never, ever commit the sins of plagiarism or copyright violation. As part of the new fourth estate, Wikinews must remain beyond reproach. No casual copying, no half-assed rephrasing; make the story your own, within all the other straight-laced project constraints.

Wikipedia will, in all probability, live on beyond the parent Wikimedia Foundation. For Wikinews to do the same, its up-and-coming reporters must show outstanding integrity, and a dogged determination to tell the story in their own words.

If you have been pointed at this essay, someone thinks you're creating writings on-project like an essay submission the night before it's due. Time to up your game. Time to learn that the style is not the same. Time to question the ingrained preconceptions of news that your little box-'o-infotainment in the corner throws at you 24/7.

And, closing on that copyright violation or plagiarism point,... Can you afford a million-dollar lawsuit? It won't be the Wikimedia Foundation they're after. Just Little. Old. You. The one who copied what they shouldn't.

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Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

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Tell them what to do, not just why to do it
I don't think the current draft of this does what is needed.

Explain how to not plagiarize while still reporting information synthesized from sources. Explain what does constitute plagiarism. Consider giving simple, straightforward illustrations of what to do and what not to do. New contributors may already be laboring under a mistaken understanding of what suffices to avoid plagiarism, so it needs to be spelled out clearly.

As long as the reader doesn't correctly understand how to avoid plagiarism, there's no point in going on about how important it is to avoid it.

(Note: Explaining how to not plagiarise would do almost as well, even though my spellchecker doesn't like it. :-)

--Pi zero (talk) 22:36, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I think there is a place for both. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:17, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Sure, but I suggest that the practical how-to advice has to come first. A page is needed where contributors can be directed before they screw up; as is, this page apparently expects them to be directed here only after they screw up.  The introductory page could be here or elsewhere, but it has to cut to the practical how-to or it won't hold the attention of a newbie who thinks they already know what to do.  --Pi zero (talk) 04:59, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Incredibly overoptimistic
"Directed to before they screw up"? .

I'd bet good money on not one of the people who fall into the "it'd scrape a pass from my English teacher" trap having read more than one sentence from a couple of policies. They're going to need stuff like this thrown at them.

How not to plagiarise is breathtakingly simple - write in your own words.

Of course, I've seen a very large number of people pass through Wikinews who are incapable of doing just that. Utterly incapable of such. If I may be so bold.... "certain education systems seem to treat English as a collection of other people's phrases that you stick together". No, I'm not talking about a hapless tourist with a phrase book, but.... --Brian McNeil / talk 10:17, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

 * I recognize the trap you're falling into. An expert may be unable to explain something to a novice because they've forgotten what it's like to not already know; I've experienced that one from both sides (expert and novice).  For my part, if I had enough confidence to try to write a primer in this area myself, I'd have done so and proposed it instead of starting a water cooler thread asking for input from those with more expertise.  It seems we're divided into those who don't know well enough to explain, and those who know too well to explain.  --Pi zero (talk) 12:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, certainly a very valid point.
 * But, I'm sure everyone can remember people at school who scraped through on plagiarism alone. Today, they rip off Wikipedia ;-)
 * I think one of the most amusing plagiarism-related incidents I came across on Wikinews was looking at an atrociously written report, copyediting, correcting grammar, and leaving for someone else to review due to my level of involvement. It failed as a copyvio, and I hadn't read any of the sources. I had simply turned bad plagiarism back into the reasonably well-written article it was a rip-off from. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:53, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

 * LOL. (Not an initialism I've used much.)

 * Many people may simply be clueless, for which the cure is to clue then in. They may not know what constitutes plagiarism, and they may not be able to imagine —without a good illustration to shake their thinking loose— how else to report information from copyrighted sources.

 * Of some passing interest: Rhetoric and Composition/Plagiarism.  Though that isn't specific to Wikinews circumstances, and I'd like something that gets down to brass tacks much faster.  Rule three in its last section may be about the first thing to say here.  --Pi zero (talk) 15:08, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I like that Wikibooks entry so much, I think we should plagiarise it. :P --Brian McNeil / talk 17:04, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

 * I have, once or twice, seen users ask how "how can i sorce without copying" and when explained "you can't copy word-for word" have reacted with "so i'll take the sorces and change it roun a bit". I think it's fair to say lack of clue is a major problem. A key line in WN:CS might be "Sources are used to source facts and information - not text". I've had to disillusion people (all off-wiki, or largely, iirc) who honestly believe the myth that copyright must be expressly claimed - and explained the offences of commercial copyright infringement, a series of largely similar charges available in the UK that cover pretty much any way you could make money from the work of others without permission. WN is safe enough as not-for-profit, but picking up one's writing skills here really ought to avoid you being so ignorant as to blunder into criminality. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:30, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Problematic line
The following comes across overly abrasive:
 * If you have been pointed at this essay, someone thinks you're creating writings on-project like an essay submission the night before it's due.

People are apt to feel insulted. Worse, the truer it is, the more they'll get defensive and that will interfere with getting the message across to them. A more detached approach may be more effective. --Pi zero (talk) 05:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll not argue with that, but to some extent there is a 'balancing act'. News is 'the night before due', but the quality and originality of the writing should not be. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:03, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Harshness
Bawolff commented on the WC that he found two points in this unduly harsh. I'll not argue over that, they were quite intentionally dire warnings.

However, there are perhaps parts of those "may not be rewritten" copyright notices that certain sources throw at you which could substitute for this.

I'd repeat that it is unrealistically optimistic to think people will read a "How not to plagiarise" guide before they've first committed the sin in question. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:51, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Be that as it may, we don't want to scare people so much that they don't contribute at all. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:13, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. But, how do we quickly impart a good understanding of what plagiarism is? You get sick of throwing articles back at people for the third or fourth time because they've tweaked the first couple of blatant 'cut'n'pastes' you found. They think, fixed that - reviewer obviously missed the two paragraphs further down that I nicked from Reuters. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:02, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Whilst you can bicker over toning it down or otherwise, it is fair to point out that the WMF is not a viable target of civil action, whereas the violator of the law is. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:34, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Define plagiarism

 * 1) Plagiarism is the act of passing off someone else's work as your own.
 * 2) Neither minor rewording, or synonym substitution is an escape clause.
 * 3) Stringing together fragments from a variety of sources still qualifies as plagiarism.
 * 4) 'Research', where one draws from, and cites, multiple sources is not the same as journalistic writing.

 * Expand on this second point. Why is it different? This guideline is aimed at starting from basics, remember. Someone who doesn't get thath they can't sub copypasta will need things like that spelt out. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:46, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Just adding my definition:
 * Plagiarism is the when you copy another person's work, or when you use information from one source without attributing to that source in a works cited ("Sources" section here). In general, there should not be more than three words in a row from another source, unless of course a quotation.
 * This is the definition I've learned and followed. I find my definition is similar to the one in Hacker's definition. — Mike moral  ♪♫  01:37, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

 * The clueless will take the three-words-in-a-row rule to mean that close paraphrase is fine, as long as every fourth word is replaced with a synonym.

 * Does it matter what kind of words are involved? How about "Prime Minister David Cameron"?  --Pi zero (talk) 02:17, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

 * That's where the "in general" comes in. Obviously, "National Aeronautics and Space Administration" is an exception as "Prime Minister David Cameron." Official titles usually would be exempt. Borrowed language, goes in quotes, i.e. "He went down the street and 'open fired against the couple.'" — Mike  moral  ♪♫  02:26, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

 * An interesting recommendation to give newbies might be something like: If given the source you used, and another similar article, and someone can tell just by reading your article which one was the source you used, then its plagiarism. Is that too strict a test? Bawolff ☺☻ 01:59, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

 * I wouldn't think so. There are enough wordings in the English language to reword most sentences. Your wording should be as far as possible from the source, while still using good English. — Mike moral  ♪♫  02:15, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

 * The over-three-words suggestion is not without merit, but is too rigid. You and I have done this awhile and so applying "in general" with common sense is easy for us. Listing is also often impossible to rephrase. I'm sure we could produce dozens of other examples. Subtle rephrasing may work, however; rather than presenting it as a hard-and-fast rule with exceptions, how might we suggest this as a good guideline to adhere to whenever possible? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:57, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Avoiding plagiarism

 * 1) Don't start writing until you have read more than one independent report on a news event.
 * 2) Never be tempted to lift a sentence and slightly rework it.
 * 3) Detail the facts, timings, and 'players' in a news report. Then only refer to your sources for direct quotes, and to fact-check.

Feel free to have a go at the above. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:17, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

 * On very rare occasions it is appropriate to directly quote a source. For example "The incident has been condemned by local media, with The Opinionated Paper calling it 'a travesty that would embarrass all but Richard Desmond's most experienced pornstars'." Very limited quoting of this fashion is acceptable to record reactions for the public record, but hammering home how little this should be done may be a challenge. Alternatively, sometimes non-news sources just have to be quoted verbatim as part of research; I refer you to Paris court jails rioters for attempted murder of police and the quote at the end which reveals just what a poor decision this was. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:45, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You'll get no disagreement on that point from me. But, it's more generally best where you've a bylined reporter you can 'lay the blame' on. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:14, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

[Aside: Ironic that only those who know what not to do are taking part in this discussion; not our newest Bollywood star reporter.] --Brian McNeil / talk 19:14, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I see nothing wrong with quoting non-news sources on a regular basis. In fact that kind of thing is often required for a good article. It's quoting rival news sites or agencies that I have a problem with. That should almost never be done. Gopher65talk 18:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I've done the latter, but I can't honestly state when, such examples are so infequesnt. A good example of the exception is an article that appeared in (The New York Times?) which suggested iirc that some aspect of the Italian political scene was effectively collapsed. Whatever it said, and I recall agreeing with the sentiment at the time, the real story was the reaction of the Italian press: The article itself became national headline news. Quoting the original would therefore be clearly acceptable. In the end, if we are going to add this at all (I think people will not understand some of the subtlety and argue the toss) then we should stress that if you can possibly do without copying then you shouldn't be doing it. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:24, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You should only use quotes when there is value added by using the quote over paraphrasing the information. It is rare that quoting another news source adds value compared to paraphrasing the information, where it is common that quoting the direct source does add value. However where the quote comes from shouldn't be criteria for deciding when to quote, it should be if the quote adds value that would be lost if you didn't use a quote. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:12, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Where I get queasy is with (usually celeb) "exclusive" interviews being quoted from. Eg "In an interview with The Outer Planet Monthly, pop star Tiny Milliwatt said, "duh?!¿"". --Brian McNeil / talk 20:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Thought provoking
Intriguingly, this seems to have provoked one of the most intelligent discussions I've ever had the pleasure of seeing on this wiki.

Long may it continue! It is a critical part of setting the standards the project aspires to! --Brian McNeil / talk 23:26, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Case study?
I've often wished, when reviewing articles that illustrate especially well how to not follow the structure of sources, I could somehow share what I was seeing with people who haven't yet got it, and say "there, that's what you should be doing!" Any given source sentence or paragraph verifies fragments of sentences scattered about the Wikinews article, and any given Wikinews sentence or paragraph contains bits verified by widely scattered bits of the sources. If only we can effectively illustrate that, it could be a real eye-opener for someone who's honestly trying to not plagiarize, but doesn't have a mental image of how to go about it.

Two challenges come to mind.
 * How can we effectively illustrate this? If we're not careful, it'll be both too long and not lucid enough.
 * It seems to require at least three extended texts (at least two paragraphs of Wikinews text, and likely at least three paragraphs of each source), so one has to find a manner of presentation that doesn't trigger an (understandable!) TL;DR reflex.
 * To realize quickly and easily what one is looking at, perhaps one could use multiple colors of highlighting on the Wikinews text, and matching highlighting on the source texts? Being sure to choose colors that color-blind readers can distinguish, of course.

--Pi zero (talk) 15:48, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Considering the lengthy source excerpts, the "obvious" way to avoid copyright issues with the sources is to invent an example — which is far more difficult to do well than merely choosing a good example from published Wikinews articles.

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Chilean miner Edison Peña completes New York Marathon

November 8, 2010 Edison Peña, one of the 33 miners who had been trapped underground in the in Copiapó, Chile, participated on Sunday in the. Peña had arrived at the city on Thursday, and had been invited by the New York Road Runners, organizers of the marathon.

Before the marathon began, Peña and Mayor of New York Michael Bloomberg saluted the runners from a stage in Staten Island. The event started at 09:40 local time (14:40 UTC; 11:40 Chile time), and Peña finished at 15:30 (20:30 UTC; 17:30 Chile time), approximately five hours and fifty minutes after the race began. The length of the marathon was about 43 kilometres (26.7 miles). According to , the marathon had a record attendance.

"It was worthwhile for me to come this far to run a marathon, because I want to motivate people," Peña said. "In this marathon I struggled. I struggled with myself, I struggled with my own pain, but I made it to the finish line," he added.

Peña, aged 34, is a fan of, and asked for some of Presley's music while he was underground. Peña also entertained his fellow miners by singing Presley's songs. On October 13, he became the twelfth miner to be rescued from the mine.


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NASCAR: Hamlin wins 2010 AAA Texas 500

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driver, who qualified thirtieth, won the  held on Sunday at  in , Texas, United States. This became his eighth win of the, and his second at Texas Motor Speedway. Throughout the course of the race there were nine cautions and thirty-five lead changes among fourteen different drivers.

On the final restart, caught Hamlin and passed him. Later the same lap, Hamlin reclaimed the position, after Kenseth collided into the wall, prompting him to finish second during the race. finished third. managed the fourth position in the closing laps of the race, after starting twentieth on the grid. , from the team, clinched the fifth position, after leading 223 laps during the race. followed Biffle in sixth, while could only manage seventh.

,, and rounded out the top ten finishers in the race. , another driver in the Chase, finished thirty-seventh. Following the race, Johnson commented, "It was just a long day. I had speed in the car. We worked our way forward and had issues on pit road. [...] We gave away so much track position from the beginning. It's tough to get back where we needed to." "The past four years, we've been in a different position," Johnson continued. "I've lost plenty of championships in the past, and this is racing, and it doesn't come easy, and you are not going to get what you want every single year and every single weekend. "I can promise you this — I am trying as hard as I can. I know my team is. We're doing everything we can. Thirty-three points back is not where we want to be, but we're going to work to get back on top."

Hamlin became the Drivers' championship leader with 6,325 points, thirty-three points ahead of Johnson. The Manufacturers' сhampionship standings is led by Chevrolet with 249, 40 points ahead of Toyota and 91 ahead of Ford with two races remaining in the season.

Looking forward to next, Hamlin said, "I'm going to race as if I'm 33 behind, to be honest with you. There's no comfortable margin going into Homestead, because anything can happen. So for me — Phoenix being an up-and-down race track for me — I've got to really be focused on practice day to get what I need, to give [crew chief]  the information that I need — just 100 percent stay focused is all I can do. But like I say, I'm not going to be conservative having the lead. I'm going to want to stretch that out before we get to Homestead. So that's pretty much my mind-set."

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Time conversion
Is Chile still on summer time? --Pi zero (talk) 02:46, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
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 * Heh. So it's one time zone east of New York, but for most of the year they're either keeping the same time or two hours different.  Lovely.  Savings time is insane.  --Pi zero (talk) 04:13, 8 November 2010 (UTC)


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Haile Gebrselassie announces retirement from athletics

November 8, 2010 , a 37-year-old Ethiopian road-running athlete, announced his retirement from the sport on Sunday, after leaving the with an inflamed knee. Gebrselassie is widely considered "one of the greatest distance runners in history."

"I never think about to retire. But for the first time, this is the day. [...] Let me stop and do other work after this," Gebrselassie said during a press conference. The athlete dropped out of the competition after running 25 kilometers. "Why should I retire? Why should I say I will retire in three or four years? You retire the very moment you utter those words," he added.

New York Road Runners President Mary Wittenberg said on Saturday that "he had his knee drained and was given cortisone," and that "it was unlikely Gebrselassie would even start the race."


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November 8, 2010

Japanese and film producer  has died at the age of 75 after he fell out of a boat just off the. He had been preparing to swim. The coastguard recovered his body after 20 minutes but he died two hours later. Nishizaki was best known for his work on the series .

Nishizaki co-created Space Battleship Yamato with. The pair later fell out after a dispute over franchise rights. The argument also involved the.

Nishizaki's career was sometimes controversial; in the 1990s he was placed on after he was caught with multiple illegal substances. It has been alleged that he smuggled arms including an assault rifle and grenade launcher from the Philippines whilst bailed. In 1999 he was again arrested, this time for drug and firearms charges. He later handed over his weapons to the police.

Eight people are currently being questioned over the circumstances of Nishizaki's death.


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