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May 31, 2010 At least seven policemen were killed in northeastern Afghanistan yesterday, according to reports, after a bomb went off near a police patrol vehicle.

The incident occurred in the district within the province of, considered to be the least violent province in the country.

Another policeman was injured, and subsequently evacuated to a provincial hospital; deputy provincial governor Shams-Ul Rahman Shams said his condition is apparently critical. Afghan Taliban spokesman claimed responsibility for the attack.

Meanwhile, in a separate incident, an Afghan army convoy full of soldiers struck upon another roadside bomb in, killing a further three people.


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Badakhshan is considered the most least violent province in the country; US forces in Afghanistan have been unable to entirely stop the recent wave of attacks. --That doesn't make any sense. Most least? Griffinofwales (talk) 02:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
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Dozens dead after bus accident in Cameroon

May 31, 2010 At least thirty people are dead in Cameroon after a bus rolled over, reports say. The accident happened on Saturday near the city of, 135 kilometres or so north of the capital.

The accident happened when the bus lost control, rolled down a hill into a ditch, and broke in half. Officials say the death toll may increase.

Traffic police official Fifen Idrissou told the Agence France-Presse news service: "At the scene we've identified around 30 bodies but the death toll could be much greater given that some of the injured evacuated before we arrived reportedly died. The bus lost control [...] 200 metres further on the bus hit a ditch. It rolled over several times," he said.

It wasn't immediately clear how many people were aboard the bus when it crashed.


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There are only 556,000 internet users in Bangladesh, I doubt that this is affecting THAT many people. However I do not like the idea that "anti-religious and offensive" material is good means for blocking access to a website, and I feel that it goes against United Nations Internet resolution regarding people having free access to information.


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Nineteen activists killed by Israeli commandos aboard aid convoy bound for Gaza

May 31, 2010

Between nine and nineteen activists died today in international waters when Israeli Defense Force commandos  attempting to break the Israeli.

Benjamin Netanyahu gave the death toll to be at least 10. Israeli television says that 19 people were killed and 36 were wounded in the confrontation.

The six vessels, called the Gaza Freedom Flotilla, were carrying 10,000 tonnes of humanitarian aid destined for the Gaza Strip, including water purifiers, prefabricated homes and medical equipment. Passengers include several and MPs from Germany, Belgium, Algeria and Israel.

Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister said that  "the organizers are well-known for their ties with global jihad, al-Qaida and Hamas. They have a history of arms smuggling and deadly terror." The Israeli military had declared it would not allow the ships to reach Gaza and said the activists were a "provocation intended to delegitimise Israel". The Israeli Navy had been transmitting messages throughout the night ordering them to turn back, stating: "If you ignore this order and enter the blockaded area, the Israeli navy will be forced to take all the necessary measures in order to enforce this blockade," and that the Gaza region was a protected military zone.

, one of the organizers, had said that the flotilla was "fully prepared for the different scenarios" that might arise, and organizers were hopeful that Israeli authorities would "do what's right" and not stop the convoy. She said, "we fully intend to go to Gaza regardless of any intimidation of threats of violence against us," and that "they are going to have to forcefully stop us."

The pre-dawn boarding took place in international waters around 150 kilometres (90 miles) off the coast of Gaza. Footage from on the flotilla's lead vessel, the, and video released by the IDF, showed armed Israeli commandos boarding the ship from helicopters and fighting with activists. According to the Israel Defense Forces, the activists attacked the commandos with batons, knives and axes. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said; They were mobbed. They were clubbed, they were beaten, stabbed. There was even a report of gunfire and our soldiers had to defend themselves, defend their lives or they would have been killed.

A spokesman for the flotilla, Greta Berlin accused Israeli troops of indiscriminately shooting at "unarmed civilians". Israel said troops found weapons aboard the Gaza flotilla which were used against the IDF. The allegations were rejected by both the Free Gaza Movement, IHH and Egypt's foreign minister, who said the boats had been searched before they left port.

of the United Nations Ban Ki-Moon said he was "shocked by reports of killings and injuries of people on boats carrying supplies for Gaza" and called for "a full investigation to determine exactly how this bloodshed took place" and urged Israel to "urgently provide a full explanation". Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas called for three days of mourning to commemorate what he called the "massacre" of protesters. , the Hamas leader in Gaza, has dubbed the Israeli action as "a crime".

Turkey's prime minister describes Israeli raid as '' and said Israel violated international laws. Some of the ships were sailing under Turkish flags and media reports indicate that Turkish nationals are among the dead. Turkey demanded an "urgent explanation" from Israel and warned of "irreparable consequences" after the incident. Netanyahu said the raid was self defense. Turkey is withdrawing its ambassador to Israel and is calling on the U.N. Security Council to convene in an emergency session about Israel.

The European Union's foreign policy chief,, has called on Israeli authorities to launch a "full inquiry" into the killing. She "reiterates the European Union's position regarding Gaza - the continued policy of closure is unacceptable and politically counterproductive." Germany's Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said he was "deeply concerned" and France said "nothing can justify" the incident. Sweden, Austria, Greece and Spain have said it was important to "quickly establish" what happened, and have summoned the Israeli ambassadors.

The British Foreign Secretary William Hague has called on the Government of Israel to open all crossings for aid to enter Gaza and said Israel should "address the serious concerns about the deterioration in the humanitarian and economic situation and about the effect on a generation of young Palestinians." Russia calls attention to the fact that the Israeli interception of a Gaza-bound international aid flotilla took place in international waters, which it said represents a gross violation of international law.

European Parliament President has urged the international Middle East mediators Russia, the United States, the United Nations and the European Union to persuade Israel to end its blockade of Gaza. Thousands of demonstrators took to the streets in Europe. In Greece and France there was clashes with police. There were protests in cities around the Ireland, UK and Italy. In the Middle East there were protests in Turkey, Lebanon and Iran.

The White House said that the United States "deeply regrets" the loss of life and injuries and was working to understand the circumstances surrounding this "tragedy". The, comprising of 57 countries, described the flotilla incident as "a serious escalation and a flagrant violation of the international law and human values."

The media has not been given access to the politicians, activists and journalists who were in the convoy or information about deaths and injuries. Israeli Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld police say it will deport the roughly 50 of the 671 activists in the flotilla except those who refuse to cooperate. The other activists have been sent to jail in the southern desert town of Beersheba after refusing to identify themselves and will remain in detention.

Irishman, a former assistant secretary general of the United Nations and the Northern Irish Nobel Peace Prize laureate, , are aboard the only boat left in the convoy, the Irish vessel, named after. The vessel is now on the way to the Gaza Strip. The Irish Prime Minister Mr Cowen said he believed Israel’s blockade of humanitarian assistance to Gaza was illegal under international law.


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If nothing else, the article lacks a statement of the source of the "news." It's the repetition of a rumor. —24.20.140.200 (talk) 03:38, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

 * This is why in discussion, I have asked and we have moved the page to "Attack on Gaza aid flotilla" and not "Israel attack" and also every instance that says that Israel DID do the attack, has been changed to an accusation, and not a fact. Until we have proof one way or the other. ☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea  ☠ - (T)(C) 05:51, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Umm, rumour? CNN, ABC, The Guardian... IDF has put our press release expressing their view, acknowledging it. I think it's fair rnugh to say it's 'a fact' that it was an 'Israeli attack'

 * Agreed. http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/may/31/henning-mankell-israel-flotilla-gaza - This source even states that one of the people on board one of the aid ships mentioned that Israelis were boarding one of the other ships in the flotilla and heard gunfire. Torinir (talk) 14:47, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

 * "Attack on Gaza aid flotilla" much better. The news sources wobbles from 10 to 19 to 9 and so forth. rursus (talk) 09:40, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

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this article must be showed on the main page. —Aozm (talk) 05:04, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay, it had to go through a review process, it's now lead 1 on the front page Irunongames  •  play  12:41, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

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I found this article to be a fair representation of the incident. While I feel the title could be rewritten, there is no disputing the factual content of the article. —TrickyH (talk) 08:25, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

if this happened in the US
all the protesters would likely be dead, our police or military do no respond calmly to violent resistance. I think a few individuals on the lead ship cared less about the lives of themselves and their shipmates than they cared about provoking an incident for Israel. Any rational person in the middle of a raid would hit the ground and surrender, to resist is a death wish. Regardless of whether you are justified morally, trying to violently resist a raid is going to get you and many others killed.

I dont see this changing anyone's mind about Israel, if the protesters were completely peaceful it might have. This way it just polarizes both sides because they both see themselves as victims and their actions as justified.--173.85.4.109 (talk) 18:42, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

So basically your saying that in the US every resistance to law enforcement action is meet with deadly force? That's quite idiotic, following    your reasoning the police at the various g8 protests should start shooting on the protesters Iran-style.

Hey, it didn't happen IN Israel, it happened in international waters...

The UN Security Council stops short of condemning the attack
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/01/un-condemns-israel-assault-gaza-flotilla - Calling for an inquiry into the attack, the UNSC stopped short of condemning the attack, due to objections from the US.


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Ok will expand
Thanks for the quick review. Mrchris (talk) 04:12, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Sources of sources
http://news.google.com/news/more?q=gaza&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=dVI2adrH4SlY1VMrsxQq3vVq94ubM&hl=en&ei=tzwDTLWPLYL88Abn05zsDQ&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&cd=1&resnum=1&ved=0CCQQqgIoADAA

http://news.google.com/news/more?q=gaza&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=dO_Es3mVwI4tR1MnfOPeqlosiAJwM&hl=en&ei=tzwDTLWPLYL88Abn05zsDQ&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&cd=1&resnum=2&ved=0CDcQqgIoADAB

--68.161.167.66 (talk) 04:37, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Fixed Up Article -- Added Image
Added a creative commons image, fixed up the article, and tagged it as breaking news since it happened a short time ago, and the death toll keeps changing.

Also Israel claims they did not carry out this attack, so I feel that its non-neutral at this early point to have it in the article's title.

How about #REDIRECT Attack on Gaza aid flotilla, many reported dead ☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea  ☠ - (T)(C) 05:40, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

 * I changed it to Attack on Gaza aid flotilla, many reported dead but everyone is reporting that it was israel? no? Mrchris (talk) 05:44, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

 * Just because they report that, does not make it what happened, it is my belief that until Isreal says "yes we did it" or there is indisputable evidence shown, that it shall remain sympathetic to Israel's claim. ☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea  ☠ - (T)(C) 05:48, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Somethings missing
So let me get this straight, israeli soldiers, with big scary guns, and not afraid to use them, boarded an unarmed humanitarian vessel, and somehow managed to get six of their soldiers killed? That doesn't add up. Unarmed people don't go against heavily armed soldiers and take 12 casualties, with the side with guns taking 6. That doesn't make sense. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:42, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Between Al Jazeera, the NY Times, BBC, and CNN I have found no reports that indicates any israeli soldiers that have been wounded or any resistance by the aid fleet. Al Jazeera reports that Isreali Army Radio stated they opened fire after "confronting those on board carrying sharp objects" [source ], but this is exceedingly dubious (if not idiotic) and the Free Gaza Movement says that soldiers opened fire as soon as they boarded the ships. I am removing any reference to wounded Israeli soldiers until a reasonable source is found. 159.250.64.129 (talk) 07:07, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

 * See here: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/05/31/gaza.protest/index.html "Seven Israeli soldiers were also wounded, one seriously." This is indeed a quote from an Israeli official, but that does not make it false - if you give credit to subjective reports of one side ("Israeli troops of indiscriminately shooting at "unarmed civilians"."), then you have to also report on the other side's claims. 16:09, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Whoever wrote this comment knows what he is talking about. The first number ofIsraeli soldiers that landed on the boat were half-killed! Stabbed with knives, beaten with metal rods, and smashed by chairs. One was even thrown off of the boat! The killing of activist part was Israel's defense!

INCREDIBLY NON NEUTRAL
"Violent" attack?

The quotation used + the image only shows activist favour.

This current article removed all of the facts that supported Isreal, and left the ones that made them sound like the bad-guys. ☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea  ☠ - (T)(C) 07:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

 * sorry could you clarify, to improve the article. Mrchris (talk) 07:30, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

 * Check out my revision (before my most recent one... its about 10-15 revisions down), and look at the current one. My version has an Israel statement matching up with every Freegaza statement. This new version has very very few Israel statements, and a lot of statements from other people. ☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea  ☠ - (T)(C) 07:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Fair As Its Going To Get
☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea  ☠ - (T)(C) 08:03, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

 * lol, see the line , though it has also been reported that they were waiting until daylight for better media coverage. where does that come from?
 * Because it has been reported by the crew that was with them, that it was the reason. ☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea  ☠ - (T)(C) 08:28, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

 * How about Israel, "Freedom Flotilla" boarding, many people killed - vs makes it sound like a game, and some reference to deaths
 * or Israeli interception of "Freedom Flotilla" leads to deaths Mrchris (talk) 08:22, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't want to be like "oh my way is better than yours" but honestly I think that the current title is the most neutral it can possibly get, nothing can be taken from the title in either direction. ☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea  ☠ - (T)(C) 08:28, 31 May 2010 (UTC) (and the second version is even worse than the first one you suggested)

 * Incident is inappropriate Mrchris (talk) 08:42, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't see how, How about "Freedom Flotilla" Situation At Sea, Many Killed Or Many Killed in Israel's "Freedom Flotilla" Sea Boarding. ☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea  ☠ - (T)(C) 08:45, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I would go with more like Many Killed in Israel's boarding of "Freedom Flotilla" Mrchris (talk) 08:46, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Its still not the most neutral wording, the best wording is how it is... and Incident is the perfect word for it Incident definitions 1,3, and 4 all apply beautifully here. ESPECIALLY 4. ☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea  ☠ - (T)(C) 08:50, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Israel and "Freedom Flotilla" have it out at high seas, because "Freedom Flotilla" is dumb enough to think that Israel will not carry out their threats, and Israel has an issue with not knowing when their force is "excessive" Maybe a little long, but states the issue accurately. ☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea  ☠ - (T)(C) 08:57, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

 * That is not constructive, how about Israel boards "Gaza Freedom Flotilla", many reported dead
 * I think the not neutral part is that those titles imply a direct causal relation between the deaths and israel's actions. However one could argue that israel was provoked (not saying its true, just that one could argue that). Thus this title implies the incident is israel's fault, which is why it seems un-neutral. Well it might possibly be the case that it is Israel's fault, we should present the facts and let the reader determine fault, not try to determine or imply fault. Bawolff ☺☻ 09:57, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Deadly incident between Israel and Freedom Flotilla off coast of Gaza maybe?  not sure. Bawolff ☺☻ 10:00, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * ''Confrontation between Israel and "Freedom Flotilla" leave several civilians dead, dozens wounded"?
 * You realize that all of these suggestions make it sound as though the people on the civilian vessel engaged the Israeli military, and not as though the Israeli military took helicopters into international waters and boarded vessels flying foreign flags, which is what happened? It's not biased to say "Israel attacks convoy, kills 19" if Israel attacked the convoy and killed 19 people.  It's far more biased to spin this as some kind of mutually entered into combat.

--68.161.167.66 (talk) 10:25, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Deadly incident between Israel and Freedom Flotilla off coast of Gaza seems fine to me. is Confrontation between Israel and "Freedom Flotilla" leave several civilians dead, dozens wounded too long? Mrchris (talk) 10:26, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Is it still in dispute?
Isn't it ready yet? This happened all the way yesterday. --68.161.167.66 (talk) 11:17, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't review my own work. Just making changes as new facts emerge. Mrchris (talk) 11:19, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I understand that, I just never expected Wikinews to be so dead. --68.161.167.66 (talk) 11:21, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Unreviewable
This is unreviewable with that many sources.

This is not Wikipedia.

Trim the unneeded sources, ditch foreign language ones which most contributors can't read. Make it reviewable. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:14, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This is embarrassing.
 * This is breaking news. What's with this bureaucracy? First it was too short, now it's too long. What's the point of all these rules? Make a decent stub with the essentials, prime it for publishing, and have an expanded version being worked on in the background which won't interrupt the approval of the first copy, because it's important to have something out there even if it's short, because that will at least inform people that there's SOMETHING GOING ON. This is an Internet website. It should NOT take longer than print to get the news out.
 * As for "go fix it yourself", I don't know your rules. Which are apparently very bloated, if too much work on it makes it HARDER to get it through, and if the apparent regulars here didn't catch that flaw in the article. I came here only to see what a collaborative project like a wiki would say about this, and I am incredibly disillusioned by the efficiency of wikis. --68.161.167.66 (talk) 12:43, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The point of these rules is that it isn't a blog. We have standards. As do Google, who I spent weeks working with to get all our material into their news index. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:07, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * No, a blog would imply individual effort, or lack of fact-checking (something that some blogs actually beat Wikinews at). When the bureaucracy is bigger than the community—which is demonstrated by the fact that something so big is bogged down by not enough editors and not enough reviewers (basically, not enough traffic to get anything done)—you don't have standards, you have a problem. How many steps did it take for this to get on the front page? How many people with the power to take those steps were online and active on this site at any single moment during the first few hours after the news broke?
 * While the five points are of vital importance, the fourth point is harder and harder to enforce the longer the article is, which makes it all the more important that a short copy with several reliable sources for further reading get out there before it gets mired by edit wars. There should not be so many rules that a fairly unbiased, Google-savvy new editor can't get an article approved to the front page in half an hour to an hour, or two hours in the middle of the night, without giving up on neutrality, copyright, newsworthiness, and verifiability. This should be your base line. Again, it's fairly embarrassing that I can read a story in print before I can see it on an Internet website.
 * Oh, and newsworthiness? Why is the Indy 500 in the spotlight? What's the point of having all these rules about neutrality and reliable sources if you're just going to report on sports events, even global ones? Wikinews can be something big, where consensus is used to make neutrality, a reliable source in itself for unbiased news, and... sports events? People wasting gas on a game? Yes, it's what people care about, but is that what Wikinews wants to be? Tell people what they care about?
 * Who goes to Wikinews for stories? Have you ever asked that? What does Wikinews offer that you can't get from Twitter, from Google News, from whatever random news blog or news site? What makes it special?
 * I don't even care about the politics of this story. I just recognize that, objectively, it's important, and I'm shocked that it doesn't seem to be important to the community here. --68.161.167.66 (talk) 14:10, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way: 3.5 hours to publish the Indy 500 article, 9 hours to publish this one. --68.161.167.66 (talk) 14:19, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think the story's review wait was a question of whether the community considers it "important" enough. Just look at the sources section in the main article. Would you like to be the one having to go through all of them, make sure they back up the info in the article, and also make sure the prose is phrased differently enough from each of them to avoid copyright infringing? That's going to be a massive deterrent for any potential reviewer; in fact, I'm actually rather surprised it got published this quickly. Most stories with a source section this big languish around for a day or even more before anyone can spare the one to two hours needed to review this properly. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:04, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, in regards to your comment up a ways, yes, I can understand your point about newsworthiness and sports. If I had my way, we'd be focussing on the most important, relevant, non-fluff events from around the world. The problem is that people write about topics they are interested in. We can't force people to write on certain issues; that would likely deter users from contributing altogether. If you think our coverage needs to be headed in a different direction, then by all means, jump right in and write up a nice story. That's what's so special about Wikinews - anyone can edit it and anyone can dictate, at least to some degree, what our coverage is focussed on. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:09, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * All the more important that there be a system where a shorter version of the article with a list of Further Reading sources be put up first.
 * And as for me fixing the problem of what's noteworthy myself, this is just my obsession of the day. I don't read the news. Besides, I can't control what goes on the front page as a regular editor. --68.161.167.66 (talk) 16:07, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Front page
This should be on the front page ASAP. I mean, for god's sake it's on wikipedia's front page already!

 * Quit whinging and start working then. Don't ever try and publish without a proper review. If you knew to switch the templates like that then you knew it was disruptive. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:24, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Review of revision 1033124 [Passed]

 * thanks for the review, Mrchris (talk) 12:57, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Neutrality of Headline // Non Neutral Article
This is still a bad headline.
 * 1) It defines a number, which is constantly changing from report to report
 * 2) It makes it look like Israel just slaughtered a group of people on a humanitarian mission (which if you say "well yeah thats true", then you clearly are not unbiased, and add more credibility to this argument)

Also a bunch of KEY REPORTS were removed from this article such as
 * The boats crew members admitting that they were expecting to get stopped, and said that they were going to get to Gaza and that Isreal would HAVE to use force to stop them.
 * The reporter on the boat's claim that they were waiting until morning to get picked up for better media coverage.

This page is not neutral in the slightest. I am ashamed to have my name in the edit log for this one. ☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea  ☠ - (T)(C) 12:57, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * So fix it. C628 (talk) 13:01, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This is not Wikipedia
 * The problem with the headline is it doesn't match the Style Guide.
 * Activists is a perfectly acceptable word.
 * Screaming about bias here cuts no ice; action speaks louder than words, and you have no record to stand behind your arguments and assert competence to criticise. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:05, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The edits were made already that showed an equal story. They were removed in favor of a more pro-activist article, look through the revision history. The word activist is not the issue I have, the issue I have is the titles non-neutrality. A better headline would be: "Activists Killed in an Israel boarding attempt at sea".

This article should be giving all sides to the story, and its sad that facts that are inserted into the story, are removed, and not given another fact in favor. The article should give both sides account, and show the story so that you can be sympathetic to both. This is a great situation for this considering: Yes the Israelis were overly aggressive, and used excessive force. HOWEVER. The activists knew what they were doing, and knew that they were going to be stopped, and knew they were trying to pass through a military quarantine... not only that but they had been warned off the night before. This is the stuff that should be still in the article. ☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea  ☠ - (T)(C) 13:15, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

 * I am not sure you can say that the article is pro-Activist, we haven't heard from the Activists since communication (radio and satellite) went down last night before the boarding. So we haven't heard their side of the story or from any of the international journalists that were on board, and we still officially don't know who or how many people died. But what needs to be added, so that the article can give both sides accounts, a Neutral Article Mrchris (talk) 13:38, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

 * I think that the articles' body is fine now, however, I do feel that we should remove the number from the title/headline (even if we are to keep the same name but change "19 activists killed" to "19 Activists suspected dead". Honestly though there are a lot of better names out there. I would suggest something that has no number at all, since we cannot confirm it. However, I am happy we got the article back to being proper. ☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea  ☠ - (T)(C) 13:46, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Just for the record, I took a stab at fixing some of the style and bias issues with the article. I agree the article might have had the impression of being somewhat against Israel; is there another (relevant) official quote or something from them that you can chuck in there, to balance it out a bit better? A lot of the article seems to be describing international leaders blasting Israel. Then again it may not be necessary, I've not read the article very carefully, just did a cursory examination for the moment. (Also, did you really need all those sources? WN, in contrast to WP, prefers using as few sources as is needed to make verification easier; if a source isn't used or it's info is backed up by another link, best to get rid of it.) Tempodivalse [talk]  14:06, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * My articles that I used when writing were:

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=176961 Which has "Passengers tried to grab weapons away from soldiers boarding the Gaza protest flotilla, starting the violence, Army Radio reported Tuesday morning, responding to accusations that Israeli commandos assaulted the ships guns blazing." http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=128420&sectionid=351020202 What has "Israel had earlier deployed warships and threatened to stop the flotilla from reaching the Palestinian territory where the war-ravaged residents were impatiently eying the arrival of the aid convoy." http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ioi_0jtO9RjMwPNRoXNCndRPRq3gD9G1IV902 Which has "The flotilla was "fully prepared for the different scenarios" that might arise, and organizers were hopeful that Israeli authorities would "do what's right" and not stop the convoy, she said. "We fully intend to go to Gaza regardless of any intimidation or threats of violence against us," she said. "They are going to have to forcefully stop us." " and "After nightfall Sunday, three Israeli navy missile boats left their base in Haifa, steaming out to sea to confront the activists' ships. Two hours later, Israel Radio broadcast a recording of one of the missile boats warning the flotilla not to approach Gaza. "If you ignore this order and enter the blockaded area, the Israeli navy will be forced to take all the necessary measures in order to enforce this blockade," the radio message continued." and a few others, I used the AP article for most of my sources. ☠ Travis "TeamColtra" McCrea  ☠ - (T)(C) 18:39, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

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"Nineteen dead: Between nine and nineteen Free Gaza Movement activists died today..." --68.161.169.110 (talk) 01:23, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

using a video as a source
The article mentions a video of the event which includes a fight between the IDF troops and the activists. won't wikinews give its readers a good service, showing them on what video exactly this is all about? the video is informative, giving a clear look of what happened in the first moments of the takeover. it was published by the IDF spokesperson unit. what more conditions must a source fulfill, to be considered as legitimate? Hummingbird (talk) 01:26, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It doesn't adds anything that the sources don't have. --Diego Grez return fire 01:29, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * please refer to my talkpage. the sources don't mention that the soldiers landed barehanded, which followed using paintball guns while being beaten and only after long moments of being lynched used their handguns. people think the IDF had stormed the ship equipped with machineguns, or shooting from the air. this video has great importance since it gives the clearest view of the first moments of the takeover, and shows exactly that the soldiers were acting by a self defence (it is important to say that there were no significant events in the other vessels). Hummingbird (talk) 01:56, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

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There are too many edits to this article going on after the given 24 hours. Should we protect and just write a follow-up story? Benny the mascot (talk) 13:20, 1 June 2010 (UTC) Can I just revise the opening paragraph to reflect that this did not happen "today"? Bundas (talk)
 * --Diego Grez return fire 13:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * -- Thanks Benny, could we/i create/add ]], for follow up stories Mrchris (talk) 15:35, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Current practice is to create the category once we have three or more articles on the topic. Benny the mascot (talk) 15:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope. This article is meant to reflect what was known on the day of publication, May 31. "Today" is appropriate because the incident occurred on May 31. Benny the mascot (talk) 01:36, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Controversy over gun shots
Two references about the controversy surrounding the timeline of gun shots:

"Our people on the ship reported live as the soldiers came onto the ship, and reported that soldiers were opening fire as they were coming onto the ship, and they were descending from helicopters. So, our understanding is that the Israeli soldiers opened fire first." Adam Shapiro, a board member of the Free Gaza Movement http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2010/5/31/interview_at_least_15_dead_after_israel_attacks_gaza_bound_aid_flotilla

"According tothe initial investigation, the soldiers were fired upon first and only responded in self-defense." Jonathan Peled, spokesman for the Embassy of Israel in Washington, D.C. http://live.washingtonpost.com/flotilla-attack-06-01-10.html

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 * BUT SOLDIERS ENTERED SOMEBODY'S BOARD FORCEFULY!

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At this point, it's less matter and I know that articles should be kept the way they were at the time of happening. On the other hand, looking back it's embarrassing for Wikinews to keep the article the way it is (although generally it is well balanced), so here are things to correct:
 * 1) title:It is a known fact that only nine activists were killed in the raid (and another one that passed away after few years in a coma). Instead of using a misleading title (at that time there were only unverified estimates) I would suggest next time using a title like "at least nine...were killed..." or "estimates of 19 killed..." which are more correct, for what was known at that time. Therefore, I request an edit of the title.
 * 2) fact or unsourced claim?: "the six vessels...were carrying 10,000 tonnes of humanitarian aid destined for the Gaza Strip, including water purifiers, prefabricated homes and medical equipment"-according to whom? The activists on the ship, israeli intelligence sources, aid organizations (IHH or real aid org?), media reports (western press such as BBC or CNN, or the hamas and muslim brotherhood supporter al-jazeera)?

well, according to current article in wikipedia, most of the equipment is building equipment and lots of out of date medications but a few gun optics and night visions were also smuggled, not to mention camoflage (we'll ignore the bulletproof vests, knives and gas masks and reports of firearms thrown to the sea). Hamas has revealed the real story when it refused to accept the support aid without the building equipment (and today you can tell what it was needed for and why israelis insisted to apply the closure). of course these facts were unknown at the time of report...

for this reason, it's important for the reader to know what is a fact and what is a claim. the whole article is full with claims (which some I know that are untrue, maybe other readers may think that are true, but both of us know that those are claims), but I can relate to these appropriately, when I see who is the speaker, and I can tell what is its agenda or interests. To conclude-please rephrase that paragraph and add the source of the claim. Hummingbird (talk) 01:55, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * When an archived Wikinews article is incorrect, we certainly want to correct it, though we do so using correction, not by altering what the article says. (Of course, what a Wikipedia article says means nothing in itself, Wikipedia being inherently not trust-worthy.  Either Wikipedia cites trust-worthy sources, and those are of interest, or it doesn't and there's no trust-worthy basis.  --Pi zero (talk) 02:03, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * thanks for the reply. I acted as I was instructed by Archived, but I replaced the template as you suggested. On the other hand, I didn't request for changing the facts-just to write who reported about the flotilla cargo ("...according to John Doe", "...as reported by Jane Doe"), and to match the title to content ("19 killed" in the title don't match "between 9 and 19" in the content). I agree that even wikipedia should be treated with suspicion. Hummingbird (talk) 17:20, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I've done a poor job of explaining this, sorry about that. You were quite correct to use editprotected here on the talk page.  I only meant to note that the edit we make to the article would not take the form of modifying what the article says, but rather of putting a correction template on the article.  The editprotected template notifies us that there's something here to be investigated; hopefully I'll have a chance to really focus in and untangle it later today (but if not, the editprotected template guarantees we won't lost track of this request).  --Pi zero (talk) 17:42, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

 * ✅, the title issue I have addressed. There's no evidence that the "unsourced" claim was unsourced. As the talk page history shows, it passed a detailed review by a trusted user against the sources as they appeared at the time of publication. It was also the subject of extensive discussions. I've also considered if it was nonetheless inaccurate (or unintentionally biased), but the article does make clear the Israeli position that there may be smuggled arms and other nasties lurking amongst the aid. BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:30, 24 August 2015 (UTC)


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Today on Wikinews : Statues of Democracy removed in Hong Kong, Canada keep an eye on Deepwater Horizon spill, 30 die in a bus crash in India, Israel declines appeals to sign Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, Bangledesh's government blocks Facebook, BP fails to block the oil leak and a Guatamalan journalist dies covering the Pacayan volcano.

Today is Saturday, May 29th, 2010. I'm Patrick Gillett and this is Wikinews.

Canada keeping eye on Deepwater Horizon spill
The Canadian Government is watching the "slowing growth" of the BP oil spill.

Canada is running their dash-8 on a twice a day mission to the gulf, monitoring for signs that the BP Oil slick may expand up the Eastern seaboard into Canadian waters, and to provide assistance to US efforts to contain the spill. This started in May, and is expected to continue until the spill has been fully contained, or no longer needed. Canada has also provided technical experts, research and development teams, and general staffing to assist in spill containment and cleanup.

While the risk is slim that the oil slick will move up the seaboard enough to get into Canadian waters, it is possible. Currently the spill is being held within the Gulf of Mexico, however, as the spill grows each day it is at bigger risk of being picked up by the Loop Current.

"If oil is swept up into the Loop Current—which moves at about 3.3 to 6.5 feet (one to two meters) a second—there's essentially no way to stop it," Tony Sturges, professor emeritus of oceanography at Florida State University, told National Geographic. "Once [oil] gets into the loop current, you can bet the farm it will go around to the south"

After being picked up by the Loop Current, the oil spill could then quickly be carried further by the Gulf Stream, which can travel up to 2.5 metres per second (5.6 mph). This current leads right through some of Canada's best fishing waters, and could potentially even be washed up directly onto the shores of Canada, if not properly contained.

This spill could devastate the fishing industry of Canada, and harm any potential tourism on the beautiful coastal waters of Eastern Canada. So while Canada is offering its hand to the United States as a gesture of assistance, it serves dually as a self assurance that Canada will not be affected by the spill, and to stop it before it reaches the border if it does get picked up by the currents.

Facebook blocked in Bangladesh
Bangladesh temporarily blocked the social networking site Facebook on Saturday, after a man was arrested for uploading content onto it deemed offensive. Other users had reportedly posted other kinds of potentially offensive content, including anti-religious and pornographic materials.

Rapid Action Battalion (RAB) arrested Mahbub Alam Rodin, aged 30, in charges of uploading cartoons of some political leaders on the website. Rodin's activity on Facebook was classified as "offensive", said Commander Mohammad Sohail, director of RAB's Legal and Media side, as reported by The Daily Star.

Malawi President pardons jailed gay couple
The top kill procedure implemented by BP on the leaking Deepwater Horizon oil well on Wednesday has failed. According to David Suttles, BP's chief operating officer, "We have been unable to overcome the flow." Suttles stated that after studying three days of results, BP determined that the procedure was a failure.

On Wednesday, BP began pumping mud into the leaking well, a procedure known as top kill. BP chief executive Tony Howard said it would take at least 24 hours to determine if the procedure was successful. The procedure has worked before in surface situations, but was not previously attempted at 5,000 feet underwater.

The procedure involves pumping heavyweight drilling mud from the surface through a drill pipe, which directs the mud into a manifold lying on the sea bed. From the manifold, the mud is pumped into the blowout preventer, which is sitting on the well.

BP says it pumped 30,000 barrels of mud into the well at rates of up to 80 barrels a minute. After three attempts, the well was still leaking.

The next option, the sixth, is called the Lower Marine Riser Package (LMRP) Cap containment system. This procedure involves a robot using a saw to cut off the leaking pipe and place a cap on the pipe. The LMRP Cap is at the scene and the procedure is expected to take four days to complete.

At least thirty dead after bus accident in India
A bus accident in southern India has left at least thirty people dead — including about ten children — and thirty more injured, according to reports. The incident occurred before dawn in the town of Chitradurga in the Karnataka state. The vehicle, en route to Bangalore, about 200 kilometres from the scene of the accident, drove into a police barricade and flipped over, causing the fuel tank to explode and burn the passengers.

The Press Trust of India news service reports that the driver was among the dead. Senior police officer Labhu Ram also noted that three of those hurt were in serious condition.

Indian police sometimes set up barricades along roads to perform checks; however, some are not clearly marked and not easily discernible in darkness.

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I just happened to get up (in the middle of the night lol) to get a glass of water and looked for your brief so I quickly converted it to mp3 and put it on the iTunes feed on PodBean. I'll add the rest of the post info tomorrow when I get off work. Turtlestack (talk) 05:28, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
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I really like the plug at the end for the Stanly Cup game! That's a fantastic idea for big stories that would be tedious to record in the brief. This idea will be integrated into the workspace for plugging wikinews content such as big sports games, political coverage and other bigger stories that just would be to difficult to do in a brief or should really require the listener to visit the site.

As for the overall show, you seemed more comfortable and relaxed this time and it showed in the recording. The only comment I have is to keep working at making things sound a bit more conversational in your speech cadence (as if you are talking to a friend and not reading) and you made a brief sigh near the beginning - other than that, I can see you put a lot of work and time into the show and (including the housekeeping with uploading files, editing templates, etc ...) so please keep it up and thank you!

One other thing, since you are producing complete shows as well, feel free to change anything you want format wise. If you want to use different music, add different features or whatever, go for it. I have my own routine that I stick with, but that's just for the shows I produce and I think it would be nice if each producer put their own spin on their shows. Since you are a sports person, maybe at the top of the show in the promo, you could ask a sports trivia related question that somehow relates to any of the news stories of the day (even if just barely) and then at the end of the show, you answer the trivia question? BBC The World does something similar with their geo-quiz where they ask a geographical question at the top of the show that relates in a way to a story then at the end they talk about the location, so if you've heard that show then that's kind of what I was thinking. Just an idea anyway, but having your own "stamp" on a show helps make it fun for you and the listener. Turtlestack (talk) 20:13, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

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I'm not understanding the line "The two blocks closer" from Relics found behind The Ruins of St. Paul, Macau. The two blocks closer to what? Either way (talk) 00:54, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

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Relics found behind The Ruins of St. Paul, Macau

June 1, 2010 Relics dated back to the were found under civil servants' quarters at the Rua de D. Belchior Caneiro adjacent to  in Macau by archaeological teams at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

Since St Paul's College is believed to have been located under those quarters, the Macau government will demolish them in order to cope with the experts' findings at the Ruins of St. Paul. The two blocks closer to the Ruins of St. Paul were demolished in March to make room for the archaeological project.

The relics included Chinese-styled tiles,  tiles, potteries and iron artillery shells. Furthermore, a part of an ancient wall is found at a nearby construction site.

The walls are confirmed as parts of the Ruins of St. Paul as it does match the maps of it dated back to 1760, 1886, and 1912. By examining the walls, it is proved that the wall was constructed of at least five layers of stone, with layers of blue bricks on top of them, as well as rammed earth each measuring at least ten centimeters thick.

The remaining two buildings will be demolished next week for further investigation.


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Your article - "Good News in Science" - was a copy and paste from another website. Unfortunately, Wikinews can't accept that - everything you submit to our site has to be your own work, and therefore that article has been deleted. You may wish to consider working on the story and resubmitting it when it is your original work. Please don't let this put you off the site, and continue contributing! Diego Grez return fire 19:26, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

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6.4 magnitude earthquake rocks Andaman Islands

May 31, 2010 A 6.4 moment magnitude earthquake has hit near the, Bay of the Bengal, India, on Tuesday at 1:21:48 AM local time (Monday 19:51:48 UTC), USGS has reported.

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 * , I'd like to note that having English sources is not a prerequisite for publishing an article. Surely we can find someone through Babel or even IRC that knows Chinese? Tempodivalse [talk]  20:42, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I think so, but Chinese sources make it very difficult, unlike Spanish, French, or even Russian sources, which work well on automatic translate tools. --Diego Grez return fire 20:43, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

 * , if you've looked closely, there is ONE source in English (Macau Daily Times).--Notnd (talk) 10:09, 1 June 2010 (UTC)


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if would've be informative to locate these as in the 'Bay of Bengal' rather than to be left wondering where in the effing hell they are..


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While some parts are not entirely clear, it does seem quite evident that those on board that particular vessel were prepared to do injury to IDF soldiers.


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http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0531/raw-video-reporter-claims-israelis-fired-activists-boarding-ship/ - Looks like an AJ reporter, on the flotilla during the raid, was reporting that there was one dead from live fire BEFORE they boarded the ship. Check the video embedded in the article.

If the Israelis fired on the vessel prior to boarding, the attacks by the people on the ship become much more defensible.


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I have reverted your edits because YouTube isn't reliable to us and all the content of the page is already well sourced. Cheers. --Diego Grez return fire 01:16, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * hello. before doing so, have you seen this video in any of the sources? can the reader of the article easily watch the video by himself? have you watched it to take a stand if it is reliable? have you checked who uploaded the video to make sure the video wasn't copied? well, it was uploaded by the IDF itself. Hummingbird (talk) 01:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I watched the video. It doesn't adds much, and the sources have videos. Don't they? Also, we don't use YouTube commonly as sources --Diego Grez return fire 01:26, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * for me, as a news consumer, things weren't clear until watching this video. the video taken from the activists' side is not clear as this (thanks to the night vision). many people think the IDF start shooting with no warning from the air. many people think the IDF was equipped with machine guns (while it carried paintball guns and handguns as secondary arm, used only with a premission of the command). this is a source of a first degree of importance, while it can't be seen in any of the sources. so, the article might have plenty of sources, but this "little detail" can change the whole message the article may convey. there's a "half-truth" and there's the truth, and the media should supply the truth, and not part of it. Hummingbird (talk) 01:41, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Whether or not a YouTube video is reliable is irrelevant here. The problem is that the video is subject to interpretation. Weren't there some on the other side who claimed that they were fired upon before being boarded? The video wouldn't show that if it was clipped not to show it. This is the reason for reliance on secondary sources: it makes it harder for editor opinion to infest the article and make it a mob-rule thing. --68.161.179.64 (talk) 02:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

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Today is Monday, May 31st, 2010. I'm Dan Harlow and this is Wikinews.

Nineteen activists killed by Israeli commandos aboard aid convoy bound for Gaza (0:38)
Around nineteen Free Gaza Movement activists died today when Israeli Defense Force commandos boarded vessels in international waters attempting to break the Israeli blockade of Gaza. According to Israeli television, 19 people were killed and 36 wounded in the confrontation, although Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu gave a toll of at least 10.

The six vessels, called the Gaza Freedom Flotilla, carried 10,000 tonnes of humanitarian aid destined for the Gaza Strip, including water purifiers, prefabricated homes and medical equipment. Passengers included several European members of parliament from Germany, Belgium, Algeria and Israel. Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon said that the organizers of the Gaza aid flotilla have connections to organizations such as Hamas and al-Qaeda.

The Israeli military had declared it would not allow the ships to reach Gaza and said the activists were a "provocation intended to delegitimise Israel". The Israeli Navy had been transmitting messages throughout the night ordering them to turn back, stating that if the order was ignored: "the Israeli navy will be forced to take all the necessary measures in order to enforce this blockade".

Huwaida Arraf, one of the organizers, had said that the flotilla was "fully prepared for the different scenarios" that might arise, and organizers were hopeful that Israeli authorities would "do what's right" and not stop the convoy. She said, "we fully intend to go to Gaza regardless of any intimidation of threats of violence against us," and that "they are going to have to forcefully stop us."

The pre-dawn boarding took place in international waters around 150 kilometers (90 miles) off the coast of Gaza. Footage from on the flotilla's lead vessel, the Mavi Marmara, showed armed Israeli soldiers boarding the ship from helicopters and fighting with activists. According to the Israel Defense Forces, the activists attacked the commandos with batons, knives and axes. Benjamin Netanyahu said "they were mobbed. They were clubbed, they were beaten, stabbed. There was even a report of gunfire and our soldiers had to defend themselves, defend their lives or they would have been killed."

A spokesman for the flotilla, Greta Berlin accused Israeli troops of indiscriminately shooting at "unarmed civilians", however, Israel said troops found weapons aboard the Gaza flotilla which were used against the IDF. Egypt's foreign minister and the foundation for Human Rights and Freedom and Humanitarian Relief who helped to organize the convoy denied that there were weapons aboard.

Secretary-General of the United Nations Ban Ki-Moon said he was "shocked by reports of killings and injuries of people on boats carrying supplies for Gaza" and called for "a full investigation to determine exactly how this bloodshed took place" and urged Israel to "urgently provide a full explanation". Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas' called for three days of mourning to commemorate what he called the "slaughter" of protesters. Ismail Haniya, the Hamas leader in Gaza, has dubbed the Israeli action as "a crime".

Turkey's prime minister describes the Israeli raid as 'state terrorism' and said Israel violated international laws. Some of the ships were sailing under Turkish flags and media reports indicate that Turkish nationals are among the dead. Turkey demanded an "urgent explanation" from Israel and warned of "irreparable consequences" after the incident. Turkey is withdrawing its ambassador to Israel and is calling on the U.N. Security Council to convene in an emergency session about Israel.

The European Union's foreign policy chief, Catherine Ashton, has called on Israeli authorities to launch a "full inquiry" into the killing, Germany's Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said he was "deeply concerned" and France said "nothing can justify" the incident. Sweden, Austria, Greece and Spain have said it was important to "quickly establish" what happened, and have summoned the Israeli ambassadors. The British Foreign Secretary William Hague has called on the Government of Israel to open all crossings for aid to enter Gaza and the White House said that the United States "deeply regrets" the loss of life and injuries and was working to understand the circumstances surrounding this "tragedy."

Russia has called attention to the fact that the Israeli interception of a Gaza-bound international aid flotilla took place in international waters, which it said represents a gross violation of international law.

Another attempt to break the Israeli blockade of Gaza in 2 or 3 days will be made by the Irish vessel MV Rachel Corrie and the Irish Prime Minister said that “The cause of this problem relates directly to the fact that there is a humanitarian blockade."

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Seven policemen killed in Afghanistan after bomb explosion (6:22)
At least seven policemen were killed in northeastern Afghanistan yesterday, according to reports, after a bomb went off near a police patrol vehicle.

The incident occurred in the Darayim district within the province of Badakhshan, considered to be the least violent province in the country.

Another policeman was injured, and subsequently evacuated to a provincial hospital; deputy provincial governor Shams-Ul Rahman Shams said his condition is apparently critical. Afghan Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid claimed responsibility for the attack.

Meanwhile, in a separate incident, an Afghan army convoy full of soldiers struck upon another roadside bomb in Nangarhar, killing a further three people.

Tragedy also struck in Cameroon where

Dozens dead after bus accident in Cameroon (7:09)
at least thirty people are dead after a bus rolled over on Saturday near the city of Bafia, 135 kilometers north of the capital Yaounde.

Traffic police official Fifen Idrissou told the Agence France-Presse news service: "At the scene we've identified around 30 bodies but the death toll could be much greater given that some of the injured evacuated before we arrived reportedly died." In describing the accident, he said "the bus lost control [...] 200 meters further on the bus hit a ditch. It rolled over several times".

It wasn't immediately clear how many people were aboard the bus when it crashed.

In keeping up with the latest geological activity on the planet,

6.4 magnitude earthquake rocks Andaman Islands (7:52)
a 6.4 magnitude earthquake hit the Andaman Islands, located in the Bay of the Bengal, India, today at 1:21 AM local time. The earthquake had a depth of 127.7 kilometers and the epicenter was located 120 kilometers at the southeast of Port Blair, the largest town and a municipal council on the Andaman Islands. No casualties or damage has been reported, and no tsunami alert was issued.

Finally, in motor-sports,

Scot Dario Franchitti wins Indianapolis 500 (8:26)
Scottish IndyCar driver Dario Franchitti won his second Indianapolis 500 in four years Sunday after leading 155 laps, which is the fourth most in the 99-year history of the race. Franchitti, aged 37, also won a rain-shortened race in 2007, when the race was stopped after 166 laps.

After a failed attempt to race in the NASCAR Sprint Cup series in 2008, Franchitti returned to the IndyCar series to race for Chip Ganassi Racing. With this victory, owner Chip Ganassi became the first team owner in racing history to have a driver win both the Daytona 500 of the Sprint Cup and the Indianapolis 500. On February 14, Jamie McMurray won the Daytona 500 driving for a Ganassi team and just hours after Franchitti took the checkered flag and had the ceremonial winner's milk drink, Jamie McMurray took second at the NASCAR Coca Cola 500, just 1 second behind Kurt Busch.

Franchitti won the race on less than a tenth of a gallon of fuel, after he and his team decided to not pit during the final laps of the race. The race ended on a caution after a massive crash between drivers Mike Conway and Ryan Hunter-Reay, when Conway's car got caught onto Hunter-Reay's left outside wheel and was sent airborne. Conway's car then hit the track's retaining wall and landed on its front side. Medics took Conway out of the car, and he was taken to the hospital with a leg injury.

Finishing behind Franchitti in second place was British driver Dan Wheldon of Partner Racing. This was Wheldon's second straight second place finish. In third place was Marco Andretti, who started in sixteenth position. Other notable finishes were Scott Dixon taking 5th, Danica Patrick placing 6th and Helio Castroneves at 9th.'

On this day in history (10:14)

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In 1669, citing poor eyesight, English naval administrator and Member of Parliament Samuel Pepys recorded the last entry in his diary, one of the most important primary sources for the English Restoration period.

Pepys was born on Fleet Street in London in 1633 to his father John, a tailor, and his mother Margaret who was the daughter of a Whitechapel butcher. He was fifth of 11 children but child mortality in the age was high and he was soon the eldest.

From a young age, Pepys suffered from kidney stones in his urinary tract and he was almost never without pain, as well as other symptoms, including "blood in the urine". By the time of his marriage, the condition was very severe and probably had a serious effect on his ability to engage in sexual intercourse.

In 1657, Pepys decided to undergo surgery and upon consulting Thomas Hollier, a surgeon; on 26 March 1658, his operation took place in a bedroom at the house of Pepys's cousin, Jane Turner. This cannot have been an easy option, as the operation was known to be especially painful as well as hazardous, not to mention it would be roughly 200 more years before the use of anesthesia, however, Pepys' stone was successfully removed and he resolved to hold a celebration on every anniversary of the operation, which he did for several years. There were long-term effects from the operation: the incision on his bladder broke open again late in his life, and the procedure may have left him sterile – though there is no direct evidence for this, as he was childless before the operation.

Though his immediate family was of humble origins, his father's first cousin, Sir Richard Pepys, was a member of parliament for Sudbury and for a time Samuel lived with another of his father's cousins, Sir Edward Montagu, who would later be made 1st Earl of Sandwich. Possibly this combination of a hard working, middle class upbringing and influential connections allowed Pepys, who had no maritime experience, to rise by patronage, hard work and his talent for administration, to be the Chief Secretary to the Admiralty under both King Charles II and subsequently King James II.

What sets Pepys apart in history, however, is his diary. Beginning on January 1st, 1660, he recorded his daily life the women he pursued, his friends and his dealings for almost ten years. His diary reveals his jealousies, insecurities, trivial concerns, and his fractious relationship with his wife, Elisabeth de St Michel, a descendant of French Protestant immigrants, whom he married when she was 14 years old. The diary is an important account of London in the 1660s and the juxtaposition of his commentary on politics and national events, alongside the very personal, can be seen from the beginning.

Robert Latham, the editor of the definitive edition of the diary, has remarked that 'His descriptions of the Great Plague of 1665, and of the Great Fire of London in 1666 are agonizingly vivid and achieve their effect by being something more than superlative reporting; they are written with compassion. As always with Pepys it is people, not literary effects, that matter.

His account of the Great Fire of London is quite vivid as he had taken a boat and observed the fire for over an hour. In his diary, Pepys recorded this observation on Sunday, September 2nd 1666 :

"And among other things, the poor pigeons, I perceive, were loth to leave their houses, but hovered about the windows and balconys till they were, some of them burned, their wings, and fell down. Having staid, and in an hour's time seen the fire: rage every way, and nobody, to my sight, endeavouring to quench it, but to remove their goods, and leave all to the fire, and having seen it get as far as the Steele-yard, and the wind mighty high and driving it into the City; and every thing, after so long a drought, proving combustible, even the very stones of churches, and among other things the poor steeple by which pretty Mrs.————lives, and whereof my old school-fellow Elborough is parson, taken fire in the very top, an there burned till it fell down"

Pepy's was, after all, also very human and he engaged in a number of extramarital liaisons with various women, which he too chronicled in his diary, often in some detail, and generally using a cocktail of languages (English, French, Spanish and Latin) when relating the intimate details. The most dramatic of these encounters was with Deborah Willet, a young woman engaged as a companion for his wife, Elisabeth. On 25 October 1668 Pepys was surprised by his wife whilst embracing Deborah and he writes that Elisabeth "coming up suddenly, did find me imbracing the girl con my hand sub su coats; and endeed I was with my main in her cunny. I was at a wonderful loss upon it and the girl also...." Following this event, he was characteristically filled with remorse but (equally characteristically) this did not prevent his continuing to pursue Willet when she had been dismissed from the Pepys household.

From June–October 1669, Pepys and his wife took a holiday to France and the Low Countries but on their return, Elisabeth fell ill and died on 10 November 1669. Pepys erected a monument to her in the church of St Olave's, Hart Street, in London.

Throughout the period of the diary, Pepys's health suffered from the long hours he worked. Specifically, he believed that his eyesight had been affected by the work he had done. At the end of May 1669, he reluctantly concluded that, for the sake of his eyes, he should completely stop writing and, from then on, only dictate to his clerks which meant he could no longer keep his diary.

However, he remained quite active and in 1673, he was promoted to Secretary to the Admiralty Commission and elected Member of Parliament for Castle Rising in Norfolk. In 1683 he was sent to Tangier to assist Lord Dartmouth with the evacuation and abandonment of the English colony and during his time as a Fellow of the Royal Society, Isaac Newton's Principia Mathematica was published and its title-page bears Pepys' name. During a correspondence between Newton and Pepys, arose the "Newton–Pepys problem" which whether one is more likely to roll at least one six with six dice or at least two sixes with twelve dice. It has been only recently noted that while the gambling advice Newton gave Pepys was correct, the logical argument Newton included with it was unsound.

On May 26, 1703 Pepys died at a house at Clapham owned by his friend William Hewer but his diary, as well as 3,000 volumes of his personal library, still one of the most important surviving 17th century private libraries, is on display at the Pepys Library of Magdalene College, Cambridge.

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