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Comments:Female suicide bomber kills 40 Shi'ite pilgrims at Baghdad shrine

This story confirms my opinion that there are plenty nuts about in the world. --
 * Under international law the occupying aggressor force is responsible for any and all deaths that result under their occupation, the U.S knew or should have known that arming shiite only militias would cause sectarian violence and the people of Iraq now have to pay the price. The first thing we need to do is to get our troops out, then we can start paying massive reparations to this country that we began to destroy in the 1960's when we put Saddam Hussein in power, and then finally ultimately reduced to rubble over the past 6 years.Soapy (talk) 17:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

the truth
well females are a waste of life i personaly will be searching for a way to reproduce asexual for the benift of all MANkind the end

I was there.
As a solider deployed to the area of the mentioned incident, we were not authorized to be near where this occurred. I believe we had a 1/4 of a mile cut off point from the entrance of the shrine. The US Army was not involved with the suicide bombing, only receiving intelligence explaining the incident after it occurred. However, we did react as security moments after the car bomb "9 days prior" had exploded.

Words cannot justify the details of that scene.-71.200.112.249 (talk) 06:54, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

A point
Ashura is not a day of celebration, it is a day where the Shia heroes are commemorated. If a person for example lost a beloved, they don't celebrate such a day / occasion --37.121.114.78 (talk)
 * For perspective, here is the first-listed meaning of celebrate on our sister project Wiktionary:
 * (transitive) To extol or honour in a solemn manner.
 * to celebrate the name of the Most High
 * --Pi zero (talk) 00:49, 15 June 2014 (UTC)


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User:Deepraj

Hi, you have reached the user page for Deepraj. My main activities are on the English Wikipedia.

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Imperial College London geology students fined in China for "illegal map-making"

January 5, 2009 Three British geology students of Imperial College London have been fined in China for "illegal survey and map-making activities", according to local media. In addition to making maps, the students were researching fault lines and earthquake activity in Xinjiang — a tense Muslim province to the west of the country where anger against Chinese rule sparked deadly attacks in 2008.

The students were gathering additional data in several regions, including Kashgar, the ancient Silk Road trading post, and an oasis city in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of the People's Republic of China.

Under Dr. Jian Guo Liu, the students' supervisor at Imperial College, they also had been in the poor desert village of Keping, where in May local authorities burned the local mosque due to "unlawful religious activities". Of the three students, two of them, a PhD student aged 23, and a Master of Science student aged 22, went to Aksu Prefecture for their research.

In September, State Security Bureau officials had investigated the students at a hotel for several hours. Thereafter, their equipment, including GPS devices, survey results, and data, were seized. The Aksu Land and Resources Bureau officers claimed they had gathered "illegal data" from 6,000 points which was valuable for mineral prospecting and topographical research.

In the leadup to last year's summer Olympics in Beijing, China cracked down on map-making and data-collecting across the country. Despite having permission from the Earthquake Administration in the country, the students were fined a combined 20,000 yuan (2,940 dollars) but did not receive additional punishments. "The data they gathered would have been valuable in analysing mineral and topographic features of the areas," Xinjiang Daily said. They returned to the UK on October 2.

According to The Procuratorial Daily, the Xinjiang prosecutors' office approved 1,295 arrests of individuals and indicted 1,154 suspects from January to November 2008. The indictments were based on suspicion of "endangering state security." In 2007, however, only 742 were arrested, while 619 of them were indicted for the same offense.


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Talk:Imperial College London geology students fined in China for "illegal map-making"

I CREATED this seemingly legal but wacky news, at least for us jurists and journalists. Funny. Please help in publishing it. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 13:55, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Sources?
Have you more sources for the headline story? The current draft seems to be in danger of infringing the copyright of the AFP. --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:04, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

 * I see you added a source as I wrote, and no doubt you will modify the text. --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:07, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

China news are hard to report due to crackdown

 * Hi! I created this very rare censorship article when I was browsing our Philippines news. I opened Google news search and sadly, there are just few sources, even duplicating each other. This is how it works. Even here in the Philippines, Philippine Daily Inquirer copies from wire reports of AP and AFP with their internal contracts with payment of fees. We must understand that in China, 1,300 media persons were arrested last year unlike 700 in 2007, due to terror and Olympics things. So, journalists are very afraid to gather news. I tried my best to rephrase or reword with my own minute or slim vocabulary the almost single source copied by others. I deeply understand that Wikinews must be safe from legal cases on copy vios. Thus, this thing affects my and our style of writing, since the sources would monopolize the bulk of thesaurus on style, etc. - Number arrested in China for 'endangering state security' soars. And just 4 hours, NYT just duplicated the sources I uploaded here yesterday; it is as hard as that, due to China censorship. - Arrests Increased in Chinese Region. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 06:35, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


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Hia:). When you write on talk pages, please make sure you don't delete the words of a previous commenter, as you did here. Thank you any contributions that you see fit to make to Wikinews. Gopher65talk 16:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

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Hi Deepraj, and welcome to Wikinews. I see that you're coming from Wikipedia, so make sure to review the community policies used on Wikinews, as they differ substantially from those of Wikipedia (ie, OR is encouraged here). I hope you stay to contribute:). Gopher65talk 16:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

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''' I make and have made quite a few wikinews articles because I find them fun, and I am also very interested in the important world issues they discuss.Soapy (talk) 16:16, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Articles I have written
Thanks to everyone who helped in any way with these articles

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/UN_reports_condemn_West_Bank_settlement

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/UN_official:_Gaza_faces_humanitarian_catastrophe

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Congressional_panel_concludes_Gulf_War_Syndrome_a_legitimate_condition

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Israel_allows_cash_for_Gazans

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/UN_warns_of_humanitarian_crisis_in_Gaza

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Protester_killed_in_West_Bank;_world_reacts_to_Gaza_conflict

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/United_Nations_suspends_operations_in_Gaza_after_schools_and_trucks_are_hit_by_Israeli_forces

http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Main_UN_compound_in_Gaza_shelled_with_'white_phosphorus'&action=history

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/UN_chief_visits_Gaza,_demands_investigation_into_attacks_on_UN_facilities

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Anger_and_unrest_continue_over_US_raid_in_Laghman,_Afghanistan

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Israel_resumes_attacks_in_Gaza,_Rice_asks_for_war_crimes_investigations

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Afghan_protestors_shot_after_mosque_raid_sparks_anger

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Interview_with_US_political_activist_and_philosopher_Noam_Chomsky

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Israel_rejects_U.S._call_for_freeze_on_West_Bank_settlements

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Palestinian_protester_killed_by_Israeli_soldiers

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Israel_evicts_two_Palestinian_families_from_their_homes

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/South_Korean_police_battle_striking_workers

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Al-Jazeera_poll_shows_many_Pakistanis_identify_America_as_'biggest'_threat

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Israeli_navy_fires_on_Gazan_fishing_vessels

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/US_and_Vietnam_begin_talks_to_decontaminate_areas_affected_by_Agent_Orange

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Politicians_and_protesters_prepare_for_G20_summit

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Carter:_US_%22likely_behind%22_Venezuela_coup

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/UN_report_says_number_of_%22abject_poor%22_tripled_in_Gaza

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Activists_claim_police_harrassment_as_G20_summit_nears

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Chomsky_book_banned_from_Guantanamo_Bay

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/UN_rights_council_endorses_Gaza_report

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Home_demolitions_in_East_Jerusalem_continue

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Clinton_to_Abbas:_Resume_peace_talks_with_no_preconditions

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Israel_announces_settlement_expansion_plans

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Israeli_forensic_institute_illegally_harvested_organs_in_the_'90s

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Fearing_protests,_Israel_seals_off_West_Bank

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/World_Cup_workers_walk_off_the_job

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/International_Committee_of_the_Red_Cross_condemns_Gaza_blockade

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Afghans_riot_after_civilians_die_in_crash

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Report_faults_Massey_Energy_for_mine_blast_that_killed_29

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User talk:Garden

Welcome
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User talk:69.136.78.79

Welcome
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I CREATED my accounts/NavBox, to shorten my User Page. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 06:47, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

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Australian Jews condemn Israeli ground attack on Gaza

January 6, 2009

Over 100 Australian Jews, including two authors and a federal minister, have condemned Israel's invasion of the Gaza Strip. They describe the action as "inhuman" and "abominable."

The 113 signatories are members of a group known as Independent Australian Jewish Voices (IAJV). The group acknowledged Israel's right to defend itself.

Antony Loewenstein, the groups founder, told The Age that he expected outrage from the loudest Jewish voices. But the IAJV had found a sizeable minority of Australian Jews who valued an independent perspective as opposed to the blindly pro-Israel position.

"However, since Palestinians have no means of self-defence against the most powerful military force in the Middle East. We particularly call on Israel to end its brutal assault on the vulnerable Palestinian people of Gaza and to reconsider its rejection of the United Nations Security Council's call for a ceasefire," the statement said.

"History has demonstrated that military punishment has never broken the spirit of a people or produced peace," added the statement.

"It would only inflame hatred of Jews and of Israel, while doing nothing to protect the lives of Israelis. Above all, it would undermine attempts to work with peace-seeking Palestinians for a lasting, just solution."

Colin Rubenstein, executive director of the Australia/Israel and Jewish Affairs Council, said the statement was up to Mr Loewenstein's "usual form — totally wrong on every fact, totally unbalanced, and totally insensitive to Israeli suffering".

"They propose that the population of southern Israel must continue to live under constant rocket bombardment, opposing all practical efforts to actually invoke the right to self-defence the signatories say they recognize," he said.


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User:Florentino Floro/Learned Treatise:Legal-Academic Values of Compleat User Page

User:Florentino Floro' User Page was and is continuously designed under User Page Design Center/About you. The most important function of my user page is - it is a great way to enable me to introduce myself to the Wikipedia community. As people get to know each other better, it (usually) becomes easier for them to work with each other, and this helps create a sense of community. As with every aspect of user pages, users' coverage of themselves is highly unique and may span many different areas.

This / my userpage is not my biography and it is not my/a blog. More importantly, and I stress, this / my user page is not a -
 * WP:NOTSOAPBOX *WP:NOTADVOCATE
 * WP:NOTOPINION *WP:NOTSCANDAL
 * WP:NOTADVERTISING *WP:NOT
 * WP:NOTFORUM *WP:NOT
 * WP:NOT *WP:NOTLINK
 * WP:NOTMIRROR *WP:NOTREPOSITORY
 * WP:LINKFARM *WP:NOTBLOG
 * WP:NOTWEBHOST *WP:NOTMYSPACE
 * WP:NOTMEMORIAL *WP:NOTCENSORED
 * WP:NOTCRYSTAL *WP:CBALL
 * WP:FUTURE *WP:SPECULATION
 * WP:NOT *WP:NOT
 * WP:NOT *WP:NOT

However, it contains terse but plenty of information that people-editors will find interesting, including:

 * Where I live, etc.
 * What I do in my meatspace (so-called "real life")
 * What my interests are

What "Ignore all rules" means - No firm rules

If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it.

Wikipedians with articles-Category:Notable Wikipedians
User:Florentino Floro is Florentino Floro, and is listed in a very short list of Wikipedians with articles. NOTE that there are more than 100,000 Wikipedia editors, and User:Florentino Floro is listed in the Category:Notable Wikipedians.

Sources and tools
I started creating, little by little, this user page by: looking, regularly (since I created this page and contributed to Wikipedia on July, 2007, until I contributed more than 6,000 edits, visiting more than 200 User Pages of administrators and editors, plus, picking-copying choice cuts-parts from their user pages) around other people's-editors'-administrators' userpages. I also regularly found a lot of pictures of people's cats and dogs, charts of which countries the editors have visited, and other 'unencyclopaedic' miscellanea.

I use these Wikipedia tools and policies to create and continously amend my user page:
 * Use common sense
 * What "Ignore all rules" means
 * Understanding IAR
 * Understanding IAR

Civility, Maturity, Responsibility

Ownership and editing of pages in my user space
Userpage states "Wikipedia offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit". It adds: "Generally, the question is proportionality. If you spend a lot of time helping build the encyclopaedia, then no-one will mind if you spend some time on your userpage as well. If your userpage contains lots of information about how you can be of help (see Expertise), then a picture of your stick insects could set it off nicely."

It further adds: "The issue of how much personal information is tolerable and how much is 'Myspacing' (a derogatory term for using a userpage as a social networking tool instead of as a means to help write Wikipedia) can be controversial, particularly since userboxes allow editors to display a massive amount of personal information with little time or effort; encouraging the presentation of personal information that users simply wouldn't bother to write an actual paragraph about.

It furthermore states: "If someone criticises your use of your userpage, keep cool. Editors can and do remove material from your userpage if there is a consensus that it hinders the writing of the encyclopaedia (see Wikipedia:User page's section on this).

My user page philosophy
"Show the door to trolls, vandals, and wiki-anarchists, who, if permitted, would waste your time and create a poisonous atmosphere here." Larry Sanger - Etiquette I share and copy, as my own Wikipedia philosophy - SimonP Aka Simon Pulsifer, was born on September 11, 1981, in Halifax, Nova Scotia, and has been referred to as the 'King of Wikipedia' in the Canadian media. He is a prolific editor of the English-language Wikipedia: Pulsifer explained his devotion to Wikipedia as follows: "It's important that people around the world have access to free, accurate and unbiased information. Wikipedia tries to do that, and it's a very honourable and admirable goal."

The rules says "Other users cannot edit my user page without my permission"
WP:UP provides: "In general it is considered polite to avoid substantially editing another's user page without their permission. Some users are fine with their user pages being edited, and may even have a note to that effect. Other users may object and ask you not to edit their user pages, and it is probably sensible to respect their requests. The best option is to draw their attention to the matter on their talk page and let them edit their user page themselves if they agree on a need to do so. In some cases a more experienced editor may make a non-trivial edit to your userpage, in which case that editor should leave a note on your talk page explaining why this was done. This should not be done for trivial reasons."

My edit count summary-contributions
My contributions, until September 28, 2008 using, is, to wit:

User:Florentino_floro (run at Sun Sep 28 05:50:39 2008 GMT) Mainspace - 4250 Talk: 862 User talk: 625 User: 99 Wikipedia talk: 57 Wikipedia: 36 avg edits per page: 2.10 earliest - 05:01, 28 June 2007 number of unique pages: 2826 total = 5929

WikiHopes/WikiDreams
In having contributed over 6,000 edits, my Wiki visions, hopes and dreams are so simple::Read my User:Florentino Floro. My biography is 1 trillion bytes, and User:Florentino Floro is so succinct at 125,000 bytes.

Vide: My Vedic Chart and philosophy on Wikipedia

My expertise
My expertise in editing is so simple. I desire to put forth in this / my user page, a succinct description of my capability, professional and scholarly endowed gifts, to contribute to Wikipedia, such that readers and researchers can use my created articles, cite them in thesis, court pleadings, briefs, memorandum, appeals, and quote my works, to support judgments, thusly: One of the most important uses of my userpage - if not the most important - is for me, to let editors and readers of my articles, know of my skills and areas of expertise.

Languages
These are the languages I speak: Filipino, English, Spanish; I understand and read Latin. I am hereunder displaying my linguistic capabilities by means of availing of one of the most popular uses of userpages. The result: other editors will know if I can translate something for them, but this isn't just limited to interwiki translation. Sometimes sources for English-language articles are written in a foreign language, and Wikipedians may need someone to help them work out what they say. Vide: In other tongues

Educational and professional qualifications
The rule provides" "The other areas of experiences you could display on your userpage are as diverse as the subjects of this encyclopaedia, but apart from areas you're generally interested in, you could list your educational and professional qualifications, ability in programming languages and skill with musical instruments. Many userboxes exist to show off your talents, and you can display them with the methods on Babel and on Userboxes. You don't have to use userboxes, however - often a well-written paragraph will may look better than a carbon copy of what someone else has."

Vide: Philippine TV documentary

Vide: Introduction

Vide: My hard earned contributions

Interests

 * Real-world interests: About me

 * WikiInterests: More about myself

The real world me
This is my real world Vide: My Book

The Wikipedia me
I am a "Most Excellent Grognard,Yeoman Editor" and a staunch advocate for boldness (Be bold) in recognizing the hard work of others and of WikiLove (WikiLove) in general. Finally, when I'm here, I'm fiercely apolitical. I believe that truth and honesty – whether we like it or not – are far more useful than ideology.

Vide: Quotations

Picture (portrait)

 * Real portrait
 * Avatar
 * Joke pic

Vide: My Image gallery

General disclaimer
On July 14, 2008, Philippines top TV GMA-7 top news-video, which I viewed, reported that: UST Dean prohibited UST students from using Wikipedia and other online Internet sources, due to easy to edit, thing. He on behalf of UST issued the statement that only hard copies of books with authors would be accepted as thesis. - User:Florentino Floro (talk) 09:47, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Regarding this issue, teachers in UST and UP really do not allow their students to use/cite WikiPedia as their source. While we (you and me) believe that Wiki is reliable, WikiPedia has its disclaimer)General disclaimer) that will drive others to not rely at all. I actually raised this issue last year in TAMBAY. - User:Efe (talk) 11:18, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

In thesis, of course, they are correct. But in legal briefs, memorandum, court judgments, oh! Wiki is very rich as far as legal articles or judgments are concerned. State of the art. They can be cited in our SCRA (Philippine Supreme Court Reports Annotated, counterpart of USA's CJS, AmJur & ALR). I don't know in science journals here. But the bio's of notable persons like Puno, can be cited in speeches. Schools are schools. They want their books to be bought. Ateneo, UP, UST, their Press is not competitive, since they force their students to buy books from their press. With Wiki online and internet onlines now, students rarely buy books for research, or thesis. This is my fight against WikiPinas babies. They are so unreliable, and the ads of Vibal's books to be bought... Who would cite WPinas? But Wikipedia, I bet, the Justices are the ones first using these in decisions. How much do justices now DO NOT HAVE TO SPEND for ALR, AM JUR, and CJS? (Each volume is $ 100+, and our SCRA is P 1,000+ Just open Wiki decisions of USA and bingo. There is no need to type but just copy paste from Wiki PDF in the links. I use Wiki legal articles for my memo, and I open the original PDF USA decision based on Wiki external links. In our court decisions, just open Supreme Court of the Philippines, go the the Ext. Link, open [www.supremecourt.gov.ph] you have the full decision, no need to buy SCRA. Wikipedia is reliable.-- Florentino Floro (talk) 11:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

We cannot really force them from the fact that we have a disclaimer. Its a challenge to us to further improve the project. Whatever they opine/claim about the site, just say. - Efe (talk) 12:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, this is the first in Philippine education history that "just" a section of a (UST) school (of course UST College of Law would not) did issue a school circular and policy from using Wikipedia as source in subjects. I am new here in Wiki, and did not, yet, find any school here in Philippines and worldwide which did issue the same policy. At any rate, statistics cannot be disregarded, that, (because of Wikipedia's candid and straightforward notes/explanations of its reliability) 80% of Philippine and worldwide English/American schools, use Wikipedia English for research. --Florentino Floro (talk) 07:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Let me add, that because of Wikipedia very scholarly written articles on USA recent and old USA decision since C.J. John Jay to C.J. John G. Roberts, jurists, lawyers and law students worldwide are spared, from buying ALR, AmJur, CJS, etc. I would say, there is nothing for Wikipedia to improve in the realm of legal articles. (Most recent SCRA decision by top Philippine Justices, source Wikipedia as most valuable tool in drafting Philippine decisions. Antonio Carpio started e-library (2005) using for sure Wiki. -Florentino Floro (talk) 07:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)" (cf. User talk:Efe/Archive 11)

Philippines corruption
On January 25, 2005, and on December 10, 2006, Philippines Social Weather Stations released the results of its 2 surveys on corruption in the judiciary; it published that: a) like 1995, 1/4 of lawyers said many/very many judges are corrupt. But (49%) stated that a judges received bribes, just 8% of lawyers admitted they reported the bribery, because they could not prove it. [Tables 8-9];  judges, however,  said, just 7% call many/very many judges as corrupt[Tables 10-11];b) "Judges see some corruption; proportions who said - many/very many corrupt judges or justices: 17% in reference to RTC judges, 14% to MTC judges, 12% to Court of Appeals justices, 4% i to Shari'a Court judges, 4% to Sandiganbayan justices and 2% in reference to Supreme Court justices [Table 15].www.sws.org.ph, New Diagnostic Study Sets Guideposts for Systematic Development of the Judiciarywww.sws.org.ph, New SWS Study of the Judiciary and the Legal Profession Sees Some Improvements, But Also Recurring Problems

The September 14] 2008, Political and Economic Risk Consultancy (PERC) survey, ranked the Philippines 6th (6.10) among corrupt Asian judicial systems. PERC stated that "despite India and the Philippines being democracies, expatriates did not look favourably on their judicial systems because of corruption." PERC reported Hong Kong and Singapore have the best judicial systems in Asia, with Indonesia and Vietnam the worst: Hong Kong's judicial sytem scored 1.45 on the scale (zero representing the best performance and 10 the worst); Singapore with a grade of 1.92, followed by Japan (3.50), South Korea (4.62), Taiwan (4.93), the Philippines (6.10), Malaysia (6.47), India (6.50), Thailand (7.00), China (7.25), Vietnam's (8.10) and Indonesia (8.26).afp.google.com/article, Hong Kong has best judicial system in Asia: business surveywww.abs-cbnnews.com, Hong Kong has best judicial system in Asia: business survey

In the September 23, 2008 Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index (global survey ranking countries in terms of perceived corruption), the Philippines dropped to 141st, down 10 places from 2007, among 180 countries surveyed. It scored a 2.3 in the Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI), lower than 2007's 2.5, on a scale where 10 is the highest possible grade.bworldonline.com, RP drops further in corruption perceptions surveytransparency.org, Transparency International 2008 Corruption Perceptions Indextransparency.org, Persistently high corruption in low-income countries amounts to an “ongoing humanitarian disaster” Vincent Lazatin, TI executive director, said: “We are compared to our nearest neighbors Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam, with Vietnam seen as eventually overtaking us in a few years. The difference is that (in other countries) when business sets aside money to grease the wheels, they know that they will get what they paid for. In the Philippines, there is no certainty."gmanews.tv, RP still as corrupt as ever - Transparency International

Billions lost by schools due to Wikipedia as thesis reference
Gaspar Vibal's Vibal Publishing empire in the Philippines faced the worst corruption controversy in Philippine publishing. Amid the Department of Education’s controversy on recent textbook project, Vibal Publishing House Inc. admitted that it had “interlocking ownership” with an “affiliate,” the LG and M Corp, but denied accusations of being the leader of a cartel. Vibal and LG and M formed a consortium regarding the publication and delivery of 17.5 million elementary textbooks and teaching manuals for public elementary and high schools funded by P 800-million loan ($40 million) World Bank loan. Contracts were awarded in September, 2006 to Vibal and Watana Phanit, inter alia, despite a pending Supreme Court petition filed by losing bidders.services.inquirer.net, Vibal Publishing House: What cartel? Further, Gaspar clarified that Wikipilipinas "should be treated as a separate entity from his family's publishing business, Vibal Publishing".newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews,  Wikipilipinas founder answers credibility issues

University belt book-thesis cartel
In Metro Manila university belt, especially in Recto, Manila, each thesis is sold for $20. Now, 90% of these school requirements would cite Wikipedia as reference. Then, authors, professors, and ultimately, book publishers lost the war to have monopoly of the huge chunk in college education bread and butter, thing. So, most universities lodged war against Wikipedia. The result, college students were forced to buy books from book stores who in turn bought from empires like Vibal Publishing.

Extrajudicial killings and forced disappearances in the Philippines
My article, is the best evidence, that Wikipedia articles can be accepted as Learned treatise] despite the [[Wikipedia:Disclaimers, since my User Page, if read, would prove, that I am an authority on the subject, not just an expert. Ateneo Law School requires thesis for its Juris Doctor degree. And my article was used extensively by Ateneo students. I heard in a news, in GSIS-Meralco bribery case, that a thesis on this won $ 2,500.

Wikipedia Article, as Learned treatise
The Philippines Revised Rules of Court was borrowed from the USA Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and Federal Rules of Evidence Sec. 46, Learned Treatise - was copied from   Rule 529 of the USA "Model Code of Evidence" as Adopted and Promulgated By the American Law Institute at Philadelphia, PA. May 15, 1942 Philadelphia American Law Institute 1942 (Vide: page 371, Rules of Court in the Philippines, Justice Ruperto Martin, 1978 edition, Learned Treatises) "RULE 129 What Need Not Be Proved Sec. 2. Judicial notice, when discretionary. — A court may take judicial notice of matters which are of public knowledge, or are capable to unquestionable demonstration, or ought to be known to judges because of their judicial functions.(n) RULE 130 - Rules of Admissibility - Sec. 46. Learned treatises. — A published treatise, periodical or pamphlet on a subject of history, law, science, or art is admissible as tending to prove the truth of a matter stated therein if the court takes judicial notice, or a witness expert in the subject testifies, that the writer of the statement in the treatise, periodical or pamphlet is recognized in his profession or calling as expert in the subject. (40a)"

Necessity of complete information on Wikipedia editor-user-creator of the article-Learned treatise
The Court can take judicial notice of a Wikipedia article, as learned treatise, an exception to the hearsay rule, using its own discretion. However, like any thesis, a Wikipedia article on (judicial history, science or art), must be supported by the Wikipedia article's author-creator-user-editor's complete biodata-resume supported by Certified uploaded images of Court public documents, certificates, and the like: in the User Page. Jurists must be convinced, that the author of the learned treatise is not only an expert on the subject matter, but must possess excellence in the field, proved by documents.

User:Florentino Floro's Userpage satisfies the Rules on Learned Treatise - WP:SOURCES
Each sentence, and each line of my user page is supported by - Certified copies of court and public documents, international, judicial and other essays, discussions, news reports, encyclopedic articles or writings, that is, by verifiable links and references.

Purpose: So that my created articles would be categorized as Learned treatises, which may be cited not only in researches, thesis, Brief (law), memorandum of law, court judgments, but also, in earning Masters and Doctorates.

I have not written in my user page any word, phrase or sentence/paragraph, which is false or unsupported by any Verifiability-Reliable sources-WP:SOURCES-Neutral point of view

Terse 126,000 kilobytes User Page - but fulfilling the requirements of judicial and academic acceptance as learned treatises.

User:Florentino_Floro/MyList2
These articles can be accepted by courts and universities as learned treatises, if and only if, my User Page, is done correctly, and line by line, supported by links which will prove that:

 * I am not only a judge-lawyer, but expert-authority on criminal procedure, civil procedure, etc.
 * I placed 12th in the 1983 Philippine Bar Examination with 87.55% bar rating, when only 21.3% passed, one of the lowest in Philippine Bar history
 * I earned Full Second Honors, at Ateneo Law School, one Second Honor at Ateneo de Manila University, philosophy
 * I hold the 10 years unbroken Ateneo Law School record of 91% in criminal law review
 * I hold the Wikipedia record, of the only Wikipedia creator of article-editor, whose story, biography and case, was BBC's 2nd most read news on August 18, 2006
 * I hold the record of the only Wikipedia author-editor, whose story, biography and case, was published front pages in all 250 magazines, worldwide, of Chuck Shepherd' News of the Weird .972, WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 24, 2006 (Vol. 6, No. 38, September 21, 2006) LEAD STORY headlined Floro and the dwarves in "Judges Gone Wild!" News of the Weird is a syndicated (by Universal Press Syndicate) newspaper column edited by Chuck Shepherd, is published in more than 250 newspapers in the United States and Canada.

"In his youth, Floro was an accomplished student, graduating with full honors in elementary, high school and college levels. He graduated: elementary (1965) from St. Mary's College of Meycauayan (6th Honors); high school (1970) from St. Vincent's Seminary, Karuhatan, Valenzuela City; he finished 2 semesters (1971) of Bachelor of Arts at the Vincentian Hills Seminary at Angono, Rizal and Adamson University (under the Vincentian Family / Congregation of the Mission priests, 3rd Honors); threat, upon the hills, in 1971, Floro predicted that he would someday be made world famous and immortal in world history; and college (1974), Bachelor of Arts, pre-divinity and philosophy, from the Ateneo de Manila University, Loyola Schools (admitted as Pre-novice / candidate for priesthood by the Society of Jesus, with Second Honors).

Parenthetically, he was the sole Bulacan province student who was admitted by the Ateneo de Manila in 1972; Floro was the only Bulakeno who graduated from the Ateneo in 1974. More importantly, Floro excelled by topping the Fr. Parissi, S.J., 2 days mental tests (only 5 of 400 candidates were admitted in 1972 to the Jesuit Pre-Novitiate). He earned 18 MBA units in 1975 at the Ateneo Graduate School of Business. He earned the degree of Bachelor of Laws (1982) at the Ateneo Law School, withfull second honors. He made the 10 years unbroken (by 10 Ateneo valedictorians) record of 91% in criminal law review under Dean Antonio L. Gregorio.

He placed 12th in the 1983 Philippine Bar Examination, with a very high bar rating of 87.55% in one of the hardest examination in Philippine history (only 21.3% passed; 65% of both Ateneo and University of the Philippines College of Law students failed because of the taxation bar subject). Floro, from 1972-1974, and 1980, sat beside his classmates - Romeo Intengan (Philippine Jesuit, former Provincial, and surgeon by training, jailed during the dictatorship of Ferdinand Marcos for his views against the dictatorship - List of Jesuits) and Cesar L. Villanueva (Dean, Ateneo College of Law), respectively.

Floro also graduated (1975) basic and intermediate Equestrianism at the Philippines D'Rossa School of Horsemanship, at Makati City, but failed in his dream to become a horse race jockey. From 1975 to 1983, he regularly rode his own American Quarter Horse "Wimps Pansy" along Meycauayan to Marilao, Bulacan."

Barnstarium
I received some of the kind visits. Vide: Barnstars

Raison d'être of my User Pages' length-philosophy - "Art and Soul"
With fervent Wikipedia hope and dream some, if not all of my created articles and major edits, would be cited as authorities by court decision, lawyers' briefs (law) and in defense of thesis.

I find the need to clarify, why I took pains, long hours and days to create my Userpage. First, Florentino Floro's reliable sources are just so few, and journalists worldwide, copied just 5 paragraphs of the 75 pages decision, which allegedly ruled I am psychotic and not insane. Thus, I had to inform all Wikipedia editors that what is told or said in Florentino Floro - is what journalists said, and not what is true based on Wikipedia approved reliable sources. Second, each line and paragraph of my Userpage, is supported with verifiable links, and I added humor, so that it will not be boring. How? Of course, I copies user pages of about 20 administrators. Third, in my talk pages from Archives 1-3, of more than 100,000 editors and 1,500 administrators, I failed to find more than 3 who would complain about my Userpage creation. I desire, that if readers and editors would read Florentino Floro and find that I edit Wikipedia, they will not be afraid of me/my articles / contribution, and since, allegedly since, I had been labeled psychotic. Also, 99% of us, Filipinos are Catholics/Christians, and under our, UK, and USA constitutions, our belief in angels and dwarves are protected by religious freedom. I am careful however on this, since I respect so much, skeptics, atheists, etc. Cheers.--User:Florentino Floro (talk) 11:53, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

With all due respect
I started my User page on 25 July 2007 At first, after some edits (of my present 6,010+), I slowly learned by copying some parts of Wikipedia:administrator's user pages. Then, I opened category of administrators, and 80% of my present user page is sourced from not less than 20 Wiki administrators' user pages. Then, I read the philosophy and policies of User page, vis-a-vis, some editors' and admins' (of 100,000 Wiki editors and 1,500 Wiki admins) messages on this talk pages or on theirs, sharing to me their views on my user page and the policies.

Let me briefly quote some of these: "User:Titopao First, what stays on the user page, stays on the user page. A user may choose to write a biographic user page (with perhaps plenty of userboxes and other stuff that might interest the user), or a user may choose to write a humorous or tongue in cheek entry. My user page is more or less biographic and, while it withholds some information about myself (for good reasons), it's still factual to the best of my knowledge. On the other hand, a user page that is clearly written humorously (however it looks like a "forgery"), needless to say, should be approached with the same light-hearted manner that the user intended it to be, and shouldn't be taken too seriously. You may, for one, decide to write something along the lines of "I had long wanted to win the Nobel Prize in Physics, but it looked like numbers didn't like me and even hated me to death, so I opted to pursue my other love, which is law and letters" and perhaps, with good reason, also include a disclaimer on the top that says you actually intend the user page to be humorous. Or you can write something along the lines of, "I am the handsomest guy in the whole Philippines with the most number of girlfriends in a single hour" and probably add a picture of..hmm, Brad Pitt?? :P"

Without images, our user pages would be without any breath. Regards.--User:Florentino Floro (talk) 11:18, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

My Philosophy of My Userpage
Basically, I spent times, precious moments, to created my Userpage, since for me, this is my soul and spirit in Wikipedia. Let me quote some pertinent portions of User page: "Ownership and editing of pages in the user space ... The Wikipedia community is generally tolerant and offers fairly wide latitude in applying these guidelines to regular participants. Particularly, community-building activities that are not strictly "on topic" may be allowed, especially when initiated by committed Wikipedians with good edit histories. At their best, such activities help us to build the community, and this helps to build the encyclopedia. As a tradition, Wikipedia offers wide latitude to users to manage their user space as they see fit.Article content policies such as WP:OR generally do not ... and try to assume good faith that they are merely trying to share information about themselves."

"Users with most of their contribution edits outside their user space should be given more leeway in this regard than users whose edits consist solely or mostly of user space edits. Your userpage is for anything that is compatible with the Wikipedia project. Think of it as a way of organizing the work that you are doing on the articles in Wikipedia, and also a way of helping other editors to understand with whom they are working. Some people add information about themselves as well, possibly including contact information (email, instant messaging, etc), a photograph, their real name, their location, information about their areas of expertise and interest, likes and dislikes, homepages, and so forth. You can use your user page to help you to use Wikipedia more effectively. Another common use is to let people know about your activities on Wikipedia, and your opinions about Wikipedia. You might want to add quotations that you like, or a picture, or some of your favorite Wikipedia articles or images (freely licensed only – see the What may I not have on my user page? section below), or the like. Others may also edit your user page, for instance awarding you a barnstar or leaving other images for you. In the event that your editing privileges on Wikipedia are revoked, a notice of this may be placed on your user page. If you want to dual-license your contributions under an additional license or declare them all public domain, you may put a notice to this effect on your user page. Because of the large templates and long category names, some editors move the license templates to a subpage (see the What about user subpages? section below). Whether you include an explicit license statement or not, however, all of your edits on Wikipedia are also licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License. Many users include mentions of the languages they know (see Wikipedia:Babel). You are welcome to include a link to your personal home page, although you should not surround it with any promotional language."

Florentino Floro
While some editors admit even without humor that they are sick with this or that disease, gay or lesbians, etc., all the parts of my User page are aimed to correct, rectify and to tell editors, who I am. Florentino Floro, if read just that, will inform readers that I am psychotic, etc. But, precisely, I submitted Wikipedia Wiki links and reliable sources, to inform editors and even article readers, that I am sane, healthy, and had passed all mental tests. Just that, with the hope, that articles and edits I created, if read by readers-researchers, will not be perturbed or mislead by the contents of Florentino Floro. TLDR applies to articles, since readers might instead junk Wikipedia and read Britannica. But editors' userpages are designed by Wikipedial policy to inform editors mainly, and readers also, about the contributor.

Floro's userpage is fine
I am glad that at the very least, diligent, honest and hard-working great Wikipedian editors - GREAT, I say, since, I am just a dwarf to their contributions - had checked, verified and found no violations of Wikipedia policies and rules on the creation of my User Page, to wit:

 * I believe that Florentino floro's userpage is completely fine, and without reading this entire conversation, I just want to say that I don't see why anything needs to change. I would suggest that the editors who may have been harassing and stalking Floro would get back to building an encyclopedia.  The userpage is very nice, and it's nice to read about what other users have done -- that's why we have userpages.  «  Diligent Terrier    [talk]  20:30, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

 * Yes, I agree, it seems that the same users keep trying to find more and more invalid complaints to raise against Florentino Floro. When one fails, they just look for another and keep pressing against him. This is not an accusation of bad faith on the part of these people, just a recommendation that they take more caution in the critiques they make. Algabal (talk) 02:56, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

 * I disagree (to Max's comment). Floro's page is elegant and acceptable: it helps us understand his perspective. Algabal (talk)
 * Well said, images are important in the wiki community and life. Copyright laws can be confusing and can get alot of people into trouble simply because they dont know what theyre doing, annoying on wikipedia since we have to be neutral. Congratulations on your barnstar. Thanks,  Royal  Mate1  00:22, 30 August 2008 (UTC)"

 * User:Royalmate1 "Nice userpage! I can see you put alot of time into it. Nice job.  Royal  Mate1  04:04, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Conclusion
"After reading through the evidence, opinions, and diffs of the RfC, I have come to the following conclusion. User:Florentino Floro is noted to make sure the additions he adds to articles satisfy the guidelines of WP:N. If they don't satisfy WP:N and are trivial additions, do not get annoyed if they are removed, remember that we are building an encyclopedia. I ask that when Florentino makes explanations on talk pages of his opinions or editing patterns, to keep them pithy, and not not write statements that take 10-15 minutes to read (we are volunteers after all). The dispute between ser:Maxschmelling and Florentino is very evident, and I strongly urge the two to avoid direct confrontation if they can. While there is no consensus on how problematic the behavior of Florentino floro is, I urge him to take the constructive aspects of his dissenters to heart and try to make himself a better Wikipedian. Lastly, I urge User:Diligent Terrier and Florentino to work together more as adoptee and adopter. I would not like to see this go to the Arbitration Committee, so hopefully we can all become better users from this. Wizardman 23:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)"--User:Florentino Floro (talk) 11:38, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


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I CREATED this sub-page in order that my written articles may have a chance to be treated as learned treatise by the international community. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 07:32, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


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China targets Google, Baidu and Internet portals over porn

January 7, 2009

A blacklist of 19 leading search engine portals and websites, including Google and Baidu, that "spread pornography or vulgar content, and threaten the morals of young people" has been published, the Chinese government said Monday.

According to Xinhua News Agency, six central agencies, led by the Ministry of Public Security and Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, conducted an intensified month-long campaign to clean up the Internet of unhealthy, vulgar and porn materials.

"The government will continue to expose, punish or even shut down those infamous Web sites that refuse to correct their wrongdoing," Cai Mingzhao, deputy director of the State Council Information Office, said. "Immediate action is needed to purify the Internet environment.".

"Pornography is banned in China and websites that feature erotic content are morally offensive," Huang Chengqing, deputy secretary-general of the Internet Society of China, said. The China Internet Illegal Information Reporting Center demanded the web portals, a number of video sharing sites and bulletin boards, including Sina, Sohu and NetEase, Google in Chinese and other websites to remove sexually-explicit photos after due notice but they failed and continued providing links to obscene sites.

Google China's spokeswoman Cui Jin, however, explained that "Google is neither the owner of those Web sites and porn nor does it spread (that) information intentionally. We have also adopted 'safe search' as the default setting, which automatically blocks sites with such content."

Baidu, NetEase.com.Inc and SINA Corp., in web statements on Wednesday, admitted their guilt, and apologized for failing to curb "porn" content. Google's China, on the other hand vowed to cooperate with Internet users and society to help establish a healthy Internet culture. "After we received notice from relevant government departments ... (we) cleaned up links to vulgar content that could have adverse effects on Internet users," it added.

Sohu, and Tencent, the most popular free instant messaging computer program in Mainland China, and the world’s third most popular IM service, as well as an internet portal, apologized separately late Tuesday. China's Criminal Law penalizes distribution of pornographic and obscene publications, videos, articles for nonprofit use with a maximum of two years imprisonment. However, the law is vague on the definition of "distributing vulgar materials." Beijing Internet management office, staff, Wang Qiang, on Wednesday said "they were working on punishment schemes for the more vague charge of spreading vulgar images."

In June 2008, China had more than 253 million Internet users, according to Xinhua. The country has been severely criticized for web censorship. In a 2008 report, the U.S. State Department stated that "China had increased its efforts to control and censor the Internet, and the government had tightened restrictions on freedom of speech and the domestic press and bloggers."

In 1996 Chinese Internet users were required to "sign a set of rules that makes it illegal for users to produce or receive pornography." In 2007 the public security ministry declared it would curb porn, online strip shows, including even erotic stories. Tianya Club, one of the most popular Chinese Internet forums, where members post government attacks, had also been publicly criticized.

In December, a woman was arrested and jailed in Shanghai for uploading home-made videos, allegedly showing her performing sex acts. In 2008, Hong Kong actor Edison Chen's and his female partner's obscene pictures circulated in the Chinese internet. Nearly a dozen people were arrested and detained by the authorities for distributing the porn materials. On Monday, these and photos of actress Zhang Ziyi sunbathing topless on a beach still appeared online. In September 2008, Chinese Prime Minister Wen Jiabao said, "to uphold state security, China, like many countries in the world, has also imposed some proper restrictions. That is for the safety, that is for the overall safety of the country and for the freedom of the majority of the people." To control public opinion, Chinese authorities had used a sophisticated spin machine dubbed as "50-cent party." Tens of thousands of "internet commentators" were hired and paid 50 Chinese cents ($0.07; £0.05) for each positive posting on websites and forums that upload bad news.

Internet censorship in the People's Republic of China is conducted under a wide variety of laws and administrative regulations. In accordance with these laws, more than sixty Internet regulations have been made by the People's Republic of China (PRC) government, and censorship systems are vigorously implemented by provincial branches of state-owned ISPs, business companies, and organizations. The escalation of the government's effort to neutralize critical online opinion comes after a series of large anti-Japanese, anti-pollution and anti-corruption protests, many of which were organized or publicized using instant messaging services, chat rooms, and text messages. The size of the Internet police is estimated at more than 30,000.

Internet Service Providers Association of Ireland (ISPAI), general manager Paul Durant, said that “each country decides how far it brings up the bar in terms of illegal content. If we are notified of material suspected of being illegal, we can trace it and establish whether it is or not, and then action can be taken if necessary. We are not a censor. If content is found to be illegal, we work with the relevant ISP and the law enforcement agencies throughout Europe to have it taken down. It can lead to huge collateral damage — you could block one site, for example, which is providing co-location hosting where people have lots of sites under one IP address. This means innocent sites risk being taken out.”

The authorities centered on pornography but the major government agenda is to control freedom of expression and to remove destabilizing online portal contents, which attack the Communist Party, suggest democracy or advocate Taiwan independence. In December, over 300 lawyers, writers, scholars and artists jointly signed "Charter 08" online petition, which advocates human rights protection by formulation of a new constitution.

Meanwhile, Center for Democracy and Technology's President and Chief Executive Officer, Leslie Harris, said: "Look at the words the Chinese government is using: 'low-class,' 'crude.' That could apply to anything. If the content is coming from China, I would be concerned their use of such broad terms is intended to reach political and religious content, general disagreement."


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I CREATED this censorship article. Please help in publishing it. Cheers.--Florentino Floro (talk) 10:06, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


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Comments:Imperial College London geology students fined in China for "illegal map-making"

I feel like going to Google Earth and making maps of the prosecutor's home areas and sending it to them. China still looks closed. Rediculously closed.

Wow... Other countries really are more strict than the US...
I think this is rather stupid... they aren't harming anyone or anything...

realy?
How silly is this? I mean, illegal map making wot a farce!

What is it about governing Asian countries that makes governments fear truth?
Not only China, but also supposedly moderate places such as Thailand and Singapore. Some may point to "Confucian doctrine" but I thought he was all for honesty. Just noticing. Scott Sanchez (talk) 06:31, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * And just what are "Asian values", any way? Scott Sanchez (talk) 06:32, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Mine surveys
OK so Imperial College is supposed to know what it is doing when it teaches students, it really is very stupid to take high grade mining lode standard survey equipment and survey both sensitive riot areas and sectors that the Chinese government considers valuable during a belligerent stand off crisis between the USA and China, events change so rapidly while Geology takes a long period of time, no matter how much freedom we have to work anywhere we feel on earth for good, the risk of taking data sets that may be very close to mine lode use state especially in days before the Olympics is asking for trouble. You might as well go and survey Fort Knox geology, or Hinkley zone, which I stay well away from at all times and leave to the Stert Point birds. There is plenty of geology to take research work on for degree. That is not to say this was unfortunate, but you also may be considered to bring the University into disrepute and it takes a long time to establish good links with government, especially in England. It has been done before by less reputable students and some who are listed as staff and fortunately China is less and less inclined to fear the worst and has better and better geology work of its own which we can read. M D Stagg B Sc Wales hydrology soils Geology M Sc Senior Lecturer 1978. I would not even go near the Thamesgate project at date, the politicians and sportsmen are so wracked with nervous dyspepsia and stay away from water supply sites, please, especially if you are a political lobbying sportsman. The earth is short enough of potable, clean, water as it is. And too few good Geologists to lose any in disasters.


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Comments:Protester killed in West Bank; world reacts to Gaza conflict

This is not an unbiased "wiki news" type entry. This is a slanted and opinionated post that is better suited for online forums.
 * So what exactly would you change about this article?Soapy (talk) 17:22, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Iranian reaction
Another user (called NonZionist talk) contributed this elsewhere on Wikinews a few days ago. I think it is relevant to this discussion:  Iran's response to "Operation Cast Lead", the  Israeli attack on the  Gaza Strip, is surprisingly nuanced. Much of the criticism targets not the Israeli offensive per se, but the international double-standard that makes aggression possible. Iran reminds us that acts of aggression that harm innocent people are themselves forms of "terrorism" -- namely  state terrorism. Ahmadinejad and other Iranian leaders consistently distinguish between Judaism and  Zionism, and focus their criticism on the latter. The same distinction is evidenced below by the protests and statements of the Iranian Jewish community.

On Sunday (January 4), Saaed Jalili, secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, addressed hypocrisy and double standards, calling Gaza "a scene of disgrace for those who claim to be confronting terrorism," He said that these unnamed powers "are not only keeping quiet vis-a-vis the Zionist terrorism, they are actually confirming it", and he called on all countries to stop Israel's "war machine".

According to the semi-official Mehr News Agency, Ali Larijani, speaker of Iran's parliament, said Sunday (January 4) that the territory targeted by Israel's ground offensive would "become Israel's graveyard". He said that "The Zionists faced the powerful resistance of the zealous Palestinians".

Israel, which receives the most advanced weapons in the world from the U.S., along with $3,000,000,000 a year,

has accused Iran of supplying Hamas with weapons. The Islamic Republic denies the charge and states that it provides only moral support.

Students in Tehran and other Iranian cities have repeatedly protested the Israeli attacks. Iranian MP's expressed their opposition to Zionism.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, president of Iran, makes a sharp distinction between Zionists and  Jews: [I]n Palestine there are Muslims, Christians and Jews who live together. We love everyone in the world - Jews, Christians, Muslims, non-Muslims, non-Jews, non-Christians... We are against occupation, aggression, killings and displacing people - otherwise we have no problem with ordinary people.

Ahmadinejad asks "How can you possibly be religious and occupy the land of other people?" and states that the Zionists he criticizes are "neither Jews nor Christians nor Muslims".

On December 30, diverse groups representing the 25,000-member Iranian Jewish community, have protested "Israeli war crimes" and the "slaughter of innocent people" in Gaza.

Rahmatollah Rafi, the chairman of Iran's Jewish community, is said to have expressed "support and sympathy with the Palestinian nation" at a protest held in front of the U.N. office in Tehran. Rafi criticized "certain Arab governments for their inaction and silence towards Israeli inhuman acts and war crimes in Gaza and the entire Palestinian territories."

The Tehran protest was led by Siamak Mara-Sedq, the Jewish representative in Iran's Parliament. In a Tuesday speech to the Iranian parliament, Mara-Sedq said that he was "shocked" by Israel's "savage acts", according to IRNA, the Iranian News Agency. He reportedly called on "all the peace-loving nations and the true advocates of human rights" to "thoroughly support the defenseless Palestinian people". He asked people to encourage Tel Aviv to stop the genocide in the region.

Hamas is asking for it
Hamas has been firing rockets at Israel for 8 years, and they are hiding among civilians. What is Israel supposed to do?


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Strike on UN school in Gaza kills 40

Palestinian medical officials report that a United Nations school in Gaza City, which was being used as a shelter for civilians, took a direct hit from an Israeli tank, killing more than 30 Palestinians on the 11th day of the assault. Israeli officials have stated that rocket fire had emerged from within the school. Doctors of the Kamal Adwan Hospital in Jabaliya report that an additional 10 people died at the hospital and they expect an increase in the casualties as more people may be on the way to the hospital.

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Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice is due at a United Nations Security Council meeting to help bring an end to the Israeli assault. United States Government officials say that they would like an immediate and stable ceasefire.

"We would like an immediate ceasefire, absolutely... An immediate ceasefire that is durable, sustainable and not time-limited," said Assistant Secretary of State Sean McCormack.

The Israeli Government, however, does not find the "international pressure" high enough to call a ceasefire. Reports also say that European Union has given a tacit green light to the Israeli assault, because they failed to come against it.

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It has been six days since Russia halted the natural gas flow to Ukraine, and therefore to subsequent countries such as Bulgaria, Austria, Turkey, Poland, Romania and Hungary. The Russian natural gas pipeline is the primary source of natural gas for some countries such as Ukraine, Austria and Turkey.

Ukraine is currently in negotiations with Russia in order to restart the gas flow, however Russia has increased the prices from US$179.50 per 1,000 cubic meters to $250 per 1,000 cubic meters for Ukraine.

Austrian Government officials are planning a meeting due to the 90% decrease in natural gas flow coming from Russia. OMV AG reports that Austria has a three-month natural gas reserve which would allow them to get by the winter of 2009. Currently, 51% of Austria's natural gas comes from Russia and only 18% of their natural gas is produced locally.

The Turkish Government says that Turkey is more time-limited in this crisis, since they only have 5 days of natural gas reserve left. However in this situation, Iran has stated that they will increase gas flow to Turkey.

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I am very happy that there are people in the world who can see beyond blind religious dogma. Also, Israel and USA need to just go home. Its not funny anymore. It never was. Grow the fuck up. Rekov (talk) 20:27, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

It's not about religion at all...
...it's about people. In Israel, there are people, mostly jews, that are completely against all of this, against zionist terror. Many of them are in jail, because they refuse to be part of of an ocuppation army. This isn't about jews, muslims or whatever, it's about people.

So
If we find someone that is a Jew and disagree with Israel were going to make a article about it?--66.229.21.217 18:19, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Military presence has worked countless times.
Please read the Old Testament. After leaving Egypt to escape the Egyptian military with Moses in the lead, the Isrealites murdered all men, women, children, and domestic animals in the land of Cannaan. We can thank Abraham for destroying 31 city states. I would say that military presence was successful in taking that land for themselves.
 * Like the old Muslims empires too? And please if you are to criticize a Nation that was formed in 1947 don't use ancient text. Use modern source like these.

--66.229.21.217 01:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

"They propose that the population of southern Israel must continue to live under constant rocket bombardment, opposing all practical efforts to actually invoke the right to self-defence the signatories say they recognize," he said.

It's maddness. What hell must be done again to Palestinians? A nuke? The above link is a pure BS. Consider me a moral supporter of Jews australian 'dissidents'. --Erik455 (talk) 22:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


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Freezing temperatures, combined with snow over the past few days, have caused travel problems throughout Europe and been responsible for the deaths of 10 people. On Monday a strong winter storm moved across Europe, covering parts of France and the United Kingdom with several inches of snow.

The storm ranged as far as Germany, Belgium, and parts of Northern Italy. It brought with it freezing, Arctic-like temperatures ranging from -5° Celsius (23° Fahrenheit) to -10°C (14°F) in the United Kingdom and France, down to -31°C (-24°F) in central Romania and what felt like -26°C (-15°F) in Germany. Forecasters predict that the freezing temperatures may be the start of a cold spell that could affect the entire continent throughout the month.

Monday's heavy snowstorm forced Roissy-Charles de Gaulle Airport, slightly north of Paris, to cancel most of its flights. 1,658 passengers from Air France alone were stranded at the airport after their flights were grounded due to the heavy snow and icy conditions. The passengers from the 120 cancelled Air France flights spent the night in hotels near the airport which were accommodated for by the airline.

An official from Air France stated that the passengers "will have available food and hot drinks". Most flights were grounded until the next morning. Tuesday, an official from Roissy-Charles de Gaulle said, "It did not snow last night. The runways are clear and have been de-iced. Traffic is returning to normal."

The frigid temperatures resulted in several school closings across France and the United Kingdom, with government forecasters from both countries predicting that the cold would stay for several days. Many schools in the United Kingdom were closed because of problems with their heating systems, while heating repair services in Britain received a record number of calls this week.

In Paris, accumulating snow and slippery ice resulted in French officials closing pedestrian access to the Eiffel Tower, one of the city's prime tourist locations.

"We can't put down salt because it's metallic, we can't use sand either because it risks getting into the elevator," stated a press official from the Eiffel Tower. The tower remained closed on Monday and re-opened on Tuesday.

The storm has caused the deaths of at least 13 people, whether directly or indirectly. Polish government officials have reported that 10 people have frozen to death following overnight temperatures of -25°C as recorded throughout the country. Police in Germany reported that a 77-year-old mentally-ill woman also froze to death after she was reported missing from a nursing home in Weimar. Romanian officials reported that frigid temperatures killed two people and sent several to the hospital. Temperatures there were reported as low as -31°C in some parts.


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 * 	brianmc: EBBR at 2009-01-06T21:50:00Z: Clear - Temp: -12.0°C (10.4°F) - Dew Pt: -13.0°C (8.6°F) - Wind: NW 2 kts (2.3 mph)

--Brian McNeil / talk 22:06, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Since I've been asked... The above is a snippet from IRC. EBBR is the code for Zaventem airport (more commonly known as Brussels International). There is a timestamp of when the weather conditions were retrieved, then a fairly simple list of basic conditions. As this is about 5 minutes away from me I can say, yes, clear skies, bloody freezing, and very little wind. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:53, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Huh?
"This was combined with freezing, Arctic-like temperatures ranging from -5° Celsius (23° Fahrenheit) to -5°C (14°F) in the United Kingdom and France,"

From -5° Celcius to -5°C? That's the same damned thing; which one of the Fahrenheit measures, which I assume to be correct, actually corresponds to -5°C?

Umm
Isn't this known as "Winter"? - 86.128.191.205 16:04, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


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