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Woman disclosed by newspaper in sex tape found dead
Please start a new article as those events of suicide are new and the article is old. DragonFire1024 06:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. --Zven 06:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * actually you edtied a redirect. Go to the main page and you will see the area on the right to start a new one. DragonFire1024 07:09, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Doh, noticed the redirect, I went to Portal:New Zealand and put in the title into the create article field. Why not alter the { {date|June 8, 2007}} so the history can be conserved? --Zven 07:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The redirect was deleted...so the old is the original article that should not be changed. The new one is the new one you would work on. :) In other words do bot copy and past...write about the new details only. DragonFire1024 07:38, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * They are 2 different articles...thats how they are supposed to be. One is a nwe article the other is an old article. DragonFire1024 22:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * And the second one needs to be rewritten to conform to new news...not a copy and paste of the old article. DragonFire1024 23:00, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Wikinews policy is to not continually update stories after they are published. The initial story was that the woman was found dead. That was published for several days before it was revealed it was suicide. People don't go back and read the old stories again and again, if you want them to have the new information it has to go in a new story. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:31, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes but the suicide was a small detail which could be deduced from the sudden death, it was still current news in Portal:New Zealand, and modifying the title of the article accordingly reflected the cause of death. See my comments below aswell. --Zven 03:55, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Here: WN:NOT. ''What Wikinews articles are not: Wikinews articles are not works in progress. Once written and published they are historical documents; they should not continue to be updated or changed. Especially, they should not be altered to an angle or POV not reflective of the article as it was published. Wikinews is not an encyclopedia.
 * Thus NEW information in articles that are days old, get a new article...not copy and paste with a few new words. DragonFire1024 10:16, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I totally understand where you are coming from, however I think it is subjective as to when the call is made to create another article. For example in the Bob Woolmer case, it makes absolute sense that another article should be made once another theory about the cause of death was established. In the Debbie Gerbeck article information was not forthcoming that is why it may have looked like a work in progress. I was aware from the outset it was most likely suicide but I was not prepared to speculate with my own POV. The reason information was not forthcoming is that journalists  from New Zealands largest newspaper disclosed and hounded the woman, and the source they acquired the information from may have been New Zealand police officers involved in operation Austin, and the police attended the sudden death. Anyone who new the related cases would have known that suicide was the likely cause. I didn't realise you wanted me to write a completely fresh article at the time, if I had I would have argued the case not to then as the cause of death is a minor detail which took time to be disclosed i.e. Found dead vs committed suicide, which is not POV as it was finally disclosed on national television on 13 June. The reporters names were also disclosed in a follow up program on 14 June. --Zven 20:02, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:All Ferrari front row for 2006 Japanese Grand Prix

Original reporting notes
TV channel - Ren TV, Russia

Date - 7.10.2006

Time - 8:55-10:00 MSK - "Formula 1": "Qualification: Live from Japan"

Commentator - Alexey Popov "Russian Voice of Formula-1" (live event)

--Yuriybrisk 07:37, 7 October 2006 (UTC)


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Talk:French goalkeeper Fabien Barthez announces retirement

The original text

http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Goalkeeper_Fabien_Barhez_last_match_will_be_said_to_be_also_the_one_against_Materazzi&oldid=321801

was twice longer but I do realize my English is too bad to impose my translation gifts any more.

In the mean time, I think you have now a summary of the main points ; more can be found anyway in the sources I gave. 82.224.88.52 09:14, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Translation
A translation of the fuller article is here, it will need working on however,--Nzgabriel | Talk 09:57, 7 October 2006 (UTC):

It is a poor revival of Fabien Barthez that had allowed Materazzi to equalize in final of Worldwide on 2006. The bald, famous concierge for the peck of Laurent Blanc on the skull, will have hoped in vain for revenge in September at the stage of France but Grégory Coupet number one of the security guards of French football had become entretemps. Just after its decision of announced direct retirement on TF1, all press makes relive its career marked by two points of organ:

the European final given in Marseilles of Bernard Tapie, that worldwide in 1998.

Anecdote They less recalled departure for a long time in the retirement of Balladur in the program of this evening of the puppet shows de l' Info where Fabien's puppet too much stressed epoch when he played right behind Frank Lebeuf; in traditional question to know if it was easy to stop its career he retorted that it was her more that to stop five pénaltys Italians.

renaming begged

 * Could anyone change Goalkeeper Fabien Barhez last match will be said to be also the one against Materazzi spelling Barthez instead of Barhez. Please. 82.224.88.52 21:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

(Deletion log); 09:36. . Divol (Talk | contribs) (deleted "Goalkeeper Fabien Barthez last match will be said to be also the one against Materazzi": content was: '{delete|speedy deletion prior renaming}')

 * What next ;-))) 82.224.88.52 10:56, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


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Blunkett defines the main task for us all

October 7, 2006

In today's Guardian newspaper, David Blunkett, former British Home Secretary and a leading light in the Labour party, is reported as saying that "The main task for all of us is to make sure that in years to come Iraq is not seen as Blair's legacy". The Daily Mail, of the same date, reports an interview with Blunkett to the same effect.

It is significant that one so close to the Prime Minister should regard Iraq as an episode that would detract from Tony Blair's reputation in history.


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Bratsk hydroelectric plant gets new turbine

October 7, 2006 The city of Bratsk in Irkutsk Oblast, Russia, received a new turbine for its famous 4,500 megawatt hydroelectric plant founded in the mid-1950s on the Angara river. In future this new unit will cause an efficiency rise up to 255MW for each turbine.

Currently, the Bratsk Power Station operates 18 hydro-turbines, each with capacity of 250MW, produced by the Leningrad Metal Works ("LMZ") in the 1960s. The plant is the second level of the Angara Hydroelectric Stations cascade. Since its full commissioning in 1967, the station was the world's single biggest power producer until Canada's Churchill Falls in 1971. Annually the station produces 22.6 billion kWh.

The precious 80 tonne cargo was transported to Pulkovo International airport of Saint-Petersburg where it was loaded on Antonov An-124-100 Ruslan to made all the way to Bratsk by air. On October 4, 2006 it landed in the Bratsk airport. In two days the unit 16 replacement arrived to the assemble place on the Angara river.

Sergey Emdin, CEO of IrkutskEnergo JSC, noted the press that the Bratsk plant reconstruction project includes not only the economical, but the ecological aspect by reducing carbon dioxide emission for 6 million tonnes for the period of 2008-2012.

In 2006 and 2007 the old plant is scheduled to receive two more working wheels - by one for each year respectively, and in 2008 and 2009 another four - by two for each year.


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Talk:Bratsk hydroelectric plant gets new turbine

Irkutskenergo Press Release
Currently the Bratsk Plant operated by Irkutskenergo JSC (http://en.irkutskenergo.ru. It's still no official press release in english there (only in russian), but when and if it will be available - you can be sure I'll add it.

And I'll now add a photo from Irkutskenergo press photo archive.

--Yuriybrisk 12:16, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Another image
Here's an image of a turbine moving from this article (in russian)  of St-Petersburg's Channel 5 (TV). It's more appropriate, but I'm not sure if they permit it's use in other news source (The "All rights reserved" notice). --Yuriybrisk 12:50, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Category
Please add to Category:Renewable energy. Thanks.—Elekhh (talk) 23:26, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Alexandr Dmitri (talk) 08:25, 16 August 2010 (UTC)


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Top ranked France to play Scotland this afternoon in football

October 7, 2006

One month ago, the French soccer team took its revenge over Italy (World cup title holders) but the gap to stay number one remains slim.

Most of this margin is only due to the victory over Brazil in Mondial quarter finals but any further loss (not expected against Faroë Islands next Wednesday) is enough not to stay in the leading chair.

Both teams are likely to be hoping for a draw as the worst result, which would leave the situation as:

 * Scotland top of the round-robin group;
 * France World #1.


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User talk:Eraysor

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Talk:Vatican considering abolishing limbo

Limbo in limbo
It's a pity we're not a normal news service. If we were we could choose a catchy/lame title like the media love like "Limbo in limbo" rather then one more explainatory but less fun :-P Nil Einne 14:44, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, and if this was the Onion, this article would be about banning Limbo, haha.
 * HeHe. BTW, Wikinews is not biased. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  19:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC)


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Talk:Top ranked France to play Scotland this afternoon in football

Help needed. See there why. 82.224.88.52 15:54, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Why Are Questions Suddenly Acceptable As Headlines?
It is not a good idea to have news headlines be questions. There is no content there - unless you assert some statement with some sort of evidence, it's just a troll. It's bad enough to have local and cable news stations propagating this marketing trick. It has no place on WikiNews.

Please note - I'm not attacking the story or the content - just the phrasing of the headline. Something like "Top Ranked France to play Scotland This Afternoon" would have been fine. It's just a slippery slope.

24.52.245.175 19:25, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

 * We both are IP's ;-))) and can't change this title which has already be renamed twice. Being the only redactor, I have already said I was not proud at all about my first title. Who's next ? ? ? 82.224.88.52 19:33, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Title
The title is ambiguous. It needs to say football (soccer) or at least Euro 2008.


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Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya shot dead

October 7, 2006

A Russian journalist, Anna Politkovskaya, who received wide acclaim and prominence for her critical coverage of the Chechen war and opposition to the Putin administration, was found shot dead at her apartment building in Moscow today. Coincidentally, October 7 is the birthday of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Anna Politkovskaya worked for the Novaya Gazeta newspaper. She rose to fame for her coverage of the human costs of the Chechen conflict and her harsh criticism of the Kremlin's policies on Chechnya. She was also one of the people who went into the Moscow theatre during the 2002 hostage taking to attempt negotiations, at the behest of the Chechen militants.

Politkovskaya was found shot dead in an elevator in her apartment block in central Moscow, the Associated Press reports, citing police sources. The Interfax news agency reports that her body was found by a neighbour and that four cartridges and a handgun were also found in the elevator. Her death has been confirmed by Dmitry Muratov, editor of the Novaya Gazeta and Moscow prosecutors.

She was 48 years old and was writing her fourth non-fiction work, Putin's Russia. Her earlier books include Under Putin and A Dirty War: A Russian Reporter in Chechnya and A Small Corner of Hell: Dispatches from Chechnya. She won several awards for her work on the Chechen conflict.

Politkovskaya had received threats before. She moved to Vienna for a short time in 2001 after receiving e-mail warnings that a Russian police officer, Sergei Lapin, who she had accused of atrocities, was seeking revenge. In 2005, Lapin was found guilty of crimes against Chechen civilians and sentenced to 11 years imprisonment.

During the 2004 Beslan school siege, Politkovskaya was taken ill with suspected food-poisoning. The incident was suspected by some of her colleagues to be a deliberate attempt at poisoning.

President Putin, breaking the two days' silence, vowed Monday 9 October to track down Politkovskaya's killers.

The funeral will be held on Tuesday, 10 October, at 2 p.m., at the Troyekurovskoye Cemetery in Moscow.


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User talk:Dacxjo

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Category talk:Israel

Let's start over
The previous conversations have not accomplished anything, and escalated to needless namecalling, so let's start this conversation all over again. This time, however, we must focus on constructive comments. Any accusations made of other users should be removed promptly. —     16:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The current wording is quite strange ("This is for articles relating to news events related to people identifying themselves with Israel, or by the government identifying themselves with Israel."). I've seen a bit of the discussions that were held here, and was appalled. The fact that some countries don't recognize Israel changes nothing with regards to its very existence. Israel displays all features of a state, it has a functioning government, exercises a monopoly over the use of force within its territory, maintains diplomatic relations with most nations of the world, and is a member of the UN. There is no reason to doubt its nature as a country, and no reason for dispute here. Many countries have enemies, and that does not detract from their status as a state. Okedem 17:24, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not so much that Israel has enemies, but they've gone as far as believing that the Israeli government is encroaching on the country called Palestine. Yes, it's hard to ignore that they were properly established by a UN resolution, but they're not the only voice. —     17:27, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

 * The fact that there's a small arab/muslim block of "countries" that did not establish relations with Israel is meaningless of course in the recognition sense of Israel as an established developed integrated and in fact very famous country for 60 years now. This whole discussion is hilarious. Amoruso 22:05, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

For the purpose of just seeing where everyone stands I would like to propose we have a non-binding straw poll (non-binding as in resaults mean nothing). This is just for the purpose of seeing where everyone stands:

Poll

 * This poll was de-facto closed a while ago but was officially closed on January 14, 2007

 * rules:
 * 1) Vote in as many sections as you want
 * 2) Keep comments short
 * 3) If you are a new wikinewsie (under 150edits, or under 2 weeks), please mantion that status (*cough Okedem Daniel575)
 * 4) You have to be a registered user (and edited once) by the date this poll started, to vote ( 17:54, 21 October 2006 (UTC))

Support treating this category like any other category

 * 1) Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 17:54, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Daniel575 17:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC) (newbie, as Bawolff requested me to mention)
 * 3) Doldrums 18:01, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) Okedem 18:59, 21 October 2006 (UTC) (new here, though an experienced Wikipedian)
 * 5) Brian McNeil / talk 20:42, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) Amoruso 21:55, 21 October 2006 (UTC)        all of user's five edits on wikinews are to this page.  — Doldrums(talk) 04:01, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) ~The bellman | Smile 00:57, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) Sj 09:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 9) Jason Safoutin 22:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 10) Skenmy(t•c•w•i) 11:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 11) --Shaoken 01:28, 29 October 2006 (UTC) all of user's two edits are on this issue. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:38, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 12) -- Thunderhead  (talk) 18:39, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 13) --Jacques Divol 21:42, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 14) --Nzgabriel | Talk 21:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 15) Momodamonkey 19:24, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 16) — F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  18:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Somewhere in the middle

 * I believe most users are aware of how I would like this issue to be resolved. I will, however, refrain from involving myself in this dispute for some time to come, since my departure from the project seems somewhat likely and I would like to devote most of my time here to achieving the personal milestone of writing 100 (or atleast 90) articles before leaving. Thank you. PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 03:51, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * By the way, MessedRocker had suggested merging and , to form  . Any comments on that? PVJ(Talk)(Articles I have written) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 10:27, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the two are different enough in newsmakers' points of view that to merge the two categories will lead to some confusion. When things touch both, we can tag articles with both categories, or even a third topical category for something like  or whatnot. -- IlyaHaykinson 13:37, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the vote has run its course.--Shaoken 00:19, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

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Gibson has given his first interview since anti-Semitic rant

October 7, 2006

Best-known for directing Braveheart, Mel Gibson had trouble with police early in the morning on July 28. While he was stopped for speeding and driving drunk, he is said to have shouted a tirade against Jews.

No transcripts of this interview launched in ABC's Good Morning America are officially available but, before its broadcast scheduled on October 12 and 13th, some communities wanted to know more about it.

Earlier in the week Robin Williams emphatized about the positive effect of this story saying he will follow the same alcohol dexintoxication process as Mel.


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Cheetahs and Blue Bulls to meet in 2006 Currie Cup rugby final

October 7, 2006

The Free State Cheetahs and the Blue Bulls will meet next week in the 2006 Currie Cup final, South Africa's domestic club rugby competition. The Bulls were the first to go through, winning the first semi final against rivals Western Province, and the Cheetahs won their semi against the Sharks.

The Blue Bulls hosted WP at home, at Loftus Versfeld in Pretoria. The Blue Bulls led WP 20 to nine at half time. The gap was closed to 23-16 in the second half, but the home team eventually ran away with the game, in the end, winning 45 points to 23.

At the second semi-final at Bloemfontein, the Cheetahs hosted the Sharks at the Free State Stadium. The Free State were up 17 to nil during the first half. The score was furthered to 24 points, but the Sharks' JP Pietersen scored minutes before the half finished to give the Sharks their first points, and the game went onto halftime, Cheetahs leading 24-7. The Cheetahs held onto the game, winning 30-14.

The Cheetahs will host the final next week, being the highest place finalist (first, the Blue Bulls were second). The final will be the third Blue Bulls/Cheetahs affair in a row, and the fifth Blue Bulls appearance in a row.


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Scotland: Three murdered schoolboy for "being white"

October 7, 2006

The trial of three Scottish Asians began on Monday, October 2 in Edinburgh's High Court. The three men, Imran Shahid, 29, Mohammed Mushtaq, 27, and Zeeshan Shahid, 29 are charged with "racially aggravated murder" over the killing of a 15-year old schoolboy in 2004.

This follows from the conviction of Zahid Mohammed in 2004 of assault in the same incident. Zahid was jailed for 5 years, and was released from jail on license on Wednesday, subsequently giving evidence in this trial. The accused are said to have been involved in the horrific killing of a 15-year old schoolboy in 2004. Kriss Donald was abducted on 16 March, and then stabbed in the lungs, liver and kidney. He was then covered in gasoline and set on fire. The accused, Imran "Baldy" Shahid, Mohammed "Beck" Mushtaq and Zeeshan "Crazy" Shahid had fled to Pakistan after Kriss' murder, and were arrested there in July last year. They were extradited to Britain on exceptional grounds in October 2005. This despite the lack of an extradition treaty between the two countries.

Mohammed said that he had never seen Kriss before, and confirmed that if he had been Chinese, black or "Asian" he would have been left alone. He said that Kriss and his friend had been chosen because they were white.

When asked by advocate-depute Mark Stewart QC if Kriss had said anything, Mohammed said: "Yes - he said 'I'm only 15. What did I do?' or something like that."


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Talk:Blunkett defines the main task for us all

Is it just me or is this articel make a few interesting claims, eg "Rewriting history is at the top of the Government's agenda", etc.? 68.39.174.238 22:45, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

The title of this article is terribly vague: "Blunkett defines the main task for us all". After reading the article, the word "us" in the title seems to refer to the people of the UK, but reading only the title the word "us" seems to refer to everybody in the world collectively. Also, people outside of the UK may not even know who Blunkett is. RedWolf 23:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC)


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Talk:Scotland: Three murdered schoolboy for "being white"

The headline is a problem. The cited articles all put "being white" in quotation marks because the allegation in court is that the victim was murdered because of his race. That has not been proven and we should not have a headline that suggests this is a fact when it is simply an allegation. Crimson 00:10, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's quoted because it is a quote. :) The witness stated it was the motive for the crime. What's not established is that the accused are muslim.  Their religion isn't mentioned in any of the sources, just that of the accused. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:06, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * My point is just that the reference to being white should be in quotes in the headline as well, otherwise it looks like we're stating a fact. I see someone has done this. Crimson 17:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Is it confirmed that all three are Pakistani? I'd prefer a more specific term than "Asian". 128.187.129.62 04:56, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, it appears the murder happened over a year ago; the headline makes it sound like the murder itself is quite recent. Shouldn't it be changed to say something less misleading?  128.187.129.62 05:00, 10 October 2006 (UTC)


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What do you mean "Amgine should go through de-admin process"? He indeed requested his voluntary de-adminship on Meta. He does not retain administrative powers on Wikinews. Take a look at the computer-generated sysop list yourself. —     00:28, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Also just search for amgine on this list of all users you will see Amgine is an ordinary user. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 00:31, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

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USA qualify for 2007 Rugby World Cup in France

October 8, 2006

The USA rugby union team has qualified for the 2007 Rugby World Cup in France. They defeated Uruguay in succession; in Montevideo 42-13 on September 30, and 33-7 in California on October 7. The USA team originally missed out on qualifying during an earlier round of the Americas qualifing tournament with Canada taking that position.

USA went through as 'Americas 4' to Pool A, where they join 2003 champions England, and the 1995 champions, South Africa. The other nation in the pool is Samoa, and one other nation that has yet to qualify, which will be either an Oceania or Asian nation. The USA have been to four World Cups in the past, with their best results being in 1987 and 2003 where they won one fixture in the pool rounds.

Next year's World Cup kicks off on September 7, and the USA will play their first game on September 8, against reigning World Champions England in Lens. Uruguay, although having lost the series against the USA, have one more chance at qualification : the series against the winner of (Africa 2 v Europe 4) to qualify as Repechage 1.


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Talk:Fernando Alonso wins 2006 Japanese Grand Prix

Original reporting notes
TV channel - Ren TV, Russia

Date - 8.10.2006

Time - 8:00-8:45 MSK - "Formula 1": "Countdown"

Time - 8:45-10:45 MSK - "Formula 1": "Race: Live from Japan"

Time - 10:45-11:30 MSK - "Formula 1": "Hot review. Best moments of GP"

Commentators - Alexey Popov "Russian Voice of Formula-1" (live event), Andrey Leontiev & Maria Rumyantseva (TV-show before and after the race)

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Venezuelan opposition holds large rally

October 8, 2006

An opposition rally was held, yesterday, in Caracas, the capital of Venezuela, in support of the opposition candidate Manuel Rosales. The BBC reports that tens of thousands of opposition supporters gathered in Avenida Libertador. However the Associated Press reports only around 10,000 people at the rally.

The rally was called "un mojella de avalanche!" (a grand avalanche) by Rosales. The use of Avenida Bolivar and permission to take aerial photos of such rallies was denied by the government, citing "security reasons." There is a planned rally for Hugo Chavez October 8th in Caracas as well.

Rosales, the Social Democratic governor of Zulia has been singled out by the opposition to be their only candidate. He has been campaigning non-stop around the country to get support for his election in the December 3rd presidential election against incumbent Chavez who has a significant lead in public opinion polls. Rosales' support is greatest amongst the middle class while Chavez's base is with the working class and poor.

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French schoolgirl injured with stones in playground

October 11, 2006

Last Wednesday, October 7, 2006, a Muslim school girl at Jean-Mermoz College in Lyon, France was injured by gravel thrown at her by four male classmates who are Muslim, as reported in the regional newspaper Le Progrès. The reason given was for eating during the fast of Ramadan, and thus not observing what is believed by Muslims to be one of the five pillars of Muslim faith.

According to a leading Jean-Mermoz School official, "it was a simple incident, not premeditated," and commented that the story did not warrant French television coverage. In a Le Progrès update report dated October 11, 2006, "the sequence of the facts are better known." Allegedly, three students were taken aside by several schoolboys, who exclaimed, "You are eating!" to one of the students in the group, a girl who was eating a sandwich, and who then threw stones (possibly gravel) which "lightly injured the girl in the head." The prosecutor of the Republic of Lyons noted that the word 'Ramadan' had not been uttered during the incident. "It is very necessary to know that the political awareness of these boys is limited," he added. Two of the four alleged perpetrators who did acknowledge these acts were suspended for four days, and the school's 250 students were assembled by the principal shortly after the event "for a solemn reminder of the law." The girl's parents lodged a formal complaint.

According to the sources, this is not the first time such an act has occurred at the school. The incident has been cause for strong emotions among the French educational community, which is sensitive to issues surrounding France's Muslim community, especially those regarding the treatment of women.

Azzedine Gacci, president of the Regional Council of Muslim Worship (CRCM), stated: "[S]i les faits sont avérés, ils sont inacceptables....")—“...if the facts are proven (to be true), they are unacceptable”. The young girl in question was in her menstruating cycle at the time of the incident. He expressed regret that some Muslim youths do not know that "femmes indisposées" (women in an exceptional state) are exempted by the Koran from observing certain aspects of Ramadan injunctions.


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Jihadist plan for hostage-taking, mass murder of Jews thwarted in Prague
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20,000 Poles demonstrate on the streets of Warsaw

October 7, 2006 No fewer than three major political demonstrations took place in Warsaw, the capital of Poland on Saturday, October 7. In total, more than 20,000 people flooded the streets and squares of the city to express either their dissatisfaction with or support for Jarosław Kaczyński's government, marred by a political corruption scandal and inability to form stable parliamentary majority.

The leading opposition party, Platforma Obywatelska, organized the "Blue March". According to the police, the march through Warsaw's historic part gathered the most people, about 11,000, who demanded new elections and expressed their discontent with the current government. Polls show over 60% of Poles want early elections, and Platforma is currently in the lead by a sizeable majority.

In response to that, Kaczyński's Prawo i Sprawiedliwość held a gathering of 8,000 government supporters in front of the socrealist landmark Palace of Culture and Science in the very centre of Warsaw.

The third demonstration, much smaller in size, was held by junior government coalition partner, the far-right Christian conservative Liga Polskich Rodzin. According to the police about 2,000 people marched through the streets of Warsaw.


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I checked all three sources cited (and watched the video on the Reuters site) and could find no claim that the opposition candidate is gaining in the polls, only that Chavez has a significant lead. Crimson 17:25, 8 October 2006 (UTC)


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Talk:French schoolgirl injured with stones in playground

C'est un peu trop facile de laisser croire que l'on a le Progrès de Lyon dans sa poche alors que ce respectable quotidien régional utilise justement le conditionnel pour ses fameuses pierres. 82.224.88.52 19:24, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * you lost yourself, you'ld write in english, otherwise just a few people could read you
 * but you're right, the tense is not good, the meaning of this act is not certain at all just a possibility. Jacques Divol 19:28, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

The creator obviously knows French better than English et ainsi il aura la chance (contrairement à moi pour Alzheimer) de savoir précisèment en quoi son article est fautif... s'il revient ;-))) 82.224.88.52 13:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I fixed it, pretty simple story really, nothing much here. But please keep the story, as right wing American blogs are claiming that she was stoned to death. Nyarlathotep 16:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

 * both dictionary.com and Merriam-Webster's define stoning as, To hurl or throw stones at, especially to kill with stones. (emphasis mine). there are no details of the incident in the article and i'm not too sure if "stoning" is what happened. (unfort., i can't read French). the article also says "Muslim classmates", how many? all muslim classmates? can we hold off publication while we get some clarity on all this? —Doldrums (talk) 16:43, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Use the translation luke. :)  She ain't dead.  Principle said it was a minor incident.  I'll add the source for that. Nyarlathotep 17:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * there're a heck of a lot of qualifiers in the first source, something that our article altogether lacks. for some reason, google refuses altogether to translate the second source - is Primo europe really all that bad? —Doldrums (talk) 17:13, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * fyi, Google translates the secnd source just fine, but it messes up the colors.

And I now see why I didn't add the link the first time around, its a racist blog with bits copied from Le Progress. i'd prefer to think of Le Progress as the source & only use these guys because I'm not at the library. fyi, I live in Lyon. Nyarlathotep 17:18, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * any possibility of OR then? i see a Lyon prosecutor's office "confirming" the incident, which makes me a little less sceptical about this. my concern is that, if we dont really have clear info about what happened, then we shldn't be makng categorical statements. especially if all we have to back it up are the first two sources, which dont appear to be particularly reliable to me. added to that, there doesnt appear to be any coverage of the incident in the mainstream news sources - if the incident was as categorical as depicted by our headline, i wld be very surprised by the lack of coverage.  —Doldrums (talk) 17:25, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I could go to the library to read Le Progress in French if you want, but you can see bits of their articles on their archives site if you search.

As to the story, Le Progress says the Lyon prosecutor's office confirmed it to them, and called the principle who said it was no big deal, and commented on the ducation communities reaction.. seems like the whole story to me.

Frankly this wouldn't even be covered by a hate crimes law. So the only real issue I see here is the whole "boys beating up on a girl" thing. And that is always the reason when the French education community gets interested in French Muslim issues. Nyarlathotep 17:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

 * some better(?) sources. —Doldrums (talk) 17:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

cool, I didn't know there was a beta google news in French. Go ahead if you want to chagne the sources. I don't care, I'm hungery, and I must go flirt with French girls at the bar. Nyarlathotep 17:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * i think this article needs to be improved considerably, the google search sources have quite a feww details that should, imo, be added. and i'll be pleased to see primo europe and its pal off wikinews list of sources...

but i have no french girls waiting for me at the bar. —Doldrums (talk) 17:50, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

 * ok, I'll see about it eventually, primo europe can go. And I ended up talking to a Dutch girls last night.  :)  Nyarlathotep 21:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

fyi, here is a more intersting story.

terrible standards
I am shocked to see this incident reported in this way.

First of all, the blogs cited as "sources" are clearly not only biased, but seem to actively encourage religious hatred - to consider these impartial sources is simply unacceptable. That such websites should pick up on such a report seems quite logical, they however seem to have vastly exaggerated the supposed events.

From what I can tell from the press articles, the details of the events are completely unclear - where the actions perpetrated by one or several individuals, what exactly was thrown at the girl, did the girl suffer any physical harm ? This incident may be nothing more than a boy throwing a stone at a classmate, something that happens daily in french schools. 213.103.239.144 22:59, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

 * True its not very serious. But we've also got right wing blog reporting that she was killed.  Best just to say it happened & point out that its no big deal.  Which is exactly what we do by quoting the principle first.

 * Insert an editorial comment into the article that right wing blogs are inflaming this situation. PlasticDoor 16:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)PlasticDoor

Blogs? The cited sources are newspapers and comment-page redirects from the source newspaper itself, not blogs. I respectfully contend that you are inserting your own bias and opinion, and also a seeming misunderstanding of blog vs. online newspaper publication difference into your reasoning here. PlasticDoor 16:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)PlasticDoor

The girl apparently did suffer harm, according to the originating newspaper report. She suffered a bleeding wound to the head. And what about emotional harm? The allegation is that it was caused by a stone, or by gravel large enough and thrown forcefully enough to cause a bleeding wound; the girl's parents filed formal complaints that involved the prosecutor. That would indicate a legal court proceeding. PlasticDoor 16:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)PlasticDoor

Please see my edits. Article cleaned up, if even a bit, toward NPOV.
I've cleaned up the article substantially, including expanded information regarding the incident, copy from a Le Progres update (avail online), and a more careful explication of the events as reported by Le Progres itself.

It is deplorable that right wingers in the US are hailing and distorting severely this event. Utterly deplorable. If I might add a personal comment, this is the current "nature" of tactics of rhetoric the US right wing is known to engage in.

I had to leave the linking code unfinished. Someone please fix that code properly.

Thank you.

PlasticDoor 21:48, 11 October 2006 (UTC)PlasticDoor
 * Why keep on lying gravillons have nothing in common with stones. 82.224.88.52 22:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Agreed; by gravillon, would that be to understand that fine granulation, i.e. semantic hair-splitting, is what is ocurring? I can accept that, if that is what is happening. I did not grasp from the reporting that gravel was the problem, but an actual stone, large enough to draw blood from the young girl's head. Kindly amend the article to reflect gravel if indeed the reports are indicating that is the case. There is no interest on my part to distort fact nor implication.PlasticDoor 15:23, 13 October 2006 (UTC)PlasticDoor

Distortion by selective reporting
I think this it is shameful that this incedent should be reported. Children throw gravel at one another in french playgrounds many times dayly (I know, I was once a child in a french school). To report one incedent out of thousands, simply because the presumed reason for the incedent was a muslim law is simply racist. 80.170.50.202 21:57, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I respectfully disagree. Charges of racism, if that is the case, must be directed at the source, not Wikinews. There are wiki templates to indicate/alert that an article may possibly be biased. It is up to the reader to decide if it is racist or not.

 * This incident calls attention to itself because of the context in world affairs in which it occurs. It is faulty reasoning and indeed a real bias to dismiss an event such as this as merely common. I cannot agree that it is common; it is a special case.

 * There is not a presumed reason, there is an alleged reason. Please read the original article again; I purposely located the exact link for that very reason. Two of the boys allegedly admitted to their motivations: religious orthodoxy. It is on record. That is, in my view, simply fact, not presumption. If that can be disproven, very well; then that should be recorded as well in the article.

 * Edi torializing is very different than edit ing . What you are prosposing is editorializing--interpretation and opinion. Editing is accuracy and transcription. PlasticDoor 16:01, 13 October 2006 (UTC)PlasticDoor

7 pillars?
I'm pretty sure Islam has 5. 128.187.129.62 07:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Very well; kindly cite a reference, and feel free to make the appropriate change.PlasticDoor 15:25, 13 October 2006 (UTC)PlasticDoor

comment remove from main article
I remove that comment from the article, as it's abvious that all child in the world send gravel to other. The case is special as reference to ramadan is done, officialy. and this is a rare thing is France. here the text of a contributor i moved: "It should be noted that such an event - schoolboys throwing gravel at others in the playground - happens daily in France, and hardly ever entails legal proceedings, let alone media coverage. It would seem probable that this event has been reported only because a reference was made to the Muslim religion." Jacques Divol 14:19, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Then kindly comment the article clearly explaining the linguistic differences. It is fairly clear and transparent that the very reason for the article being reported in the first place is due to the context of religion, intolerance, current world affairs, etc. ad nauseam. For that reason, I modestly offered that NPOV was a prime motivator of my clean-up and editorial addition. I of course take no offense if I need to be corrected insofar as an appropriate writing contribution. By my reading of the original source articles--not the derivative interpretations--the tone conveyed was not "anti-Muslim," merely that this act occurred in a specific context which in turn made the event special precisely because schoolyard "gravel throwing" is a common occurence in general. I feel that this article must be edited NPOV very assiduously and carefully here on Wikipedia precisely because extremists will use this for their distorting agendas. If Wikipedia is going to engage in news dissemination, it seems to me that the rigorous Wikipedia standards in this *type* of case demand utmost ethics.  I personally believe that Wikinews must not be allowed to become a tabloid, publish trivialities as "news," nor trivialize legitimate news because it seems rhetorical or "granular." Clear and dispassionate accuracy is mandatory, in my view. Humbly, PlasticDoor 15:44, 13 October 2006 (UTC)PlasticDoor

Page Redirected and Article Title changed to remove inflammatory language
Dear Colleagues,

I have removed "for not observing Ramadan" from the title in order that the incident and headline is not immediately attractive to inflammatory rhetorical usage or cross-link referencing.

The article itself clearly is a developing story. I do not choose nor wish to publish the article until the TalkPage reflects a wikiCommunity consensus that the reporting is accurate.

I have noted on the TalkPage my comments to the various objections, etc., and try to make myself clearly understood. All responses welcomed.

Respectfully, --PlasticDoor 16:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)PlasticDoor


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Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Wikiholic. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Wikiholic~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:23, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:40, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

title: User talk:Wikiholic~enwikinews