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Dominican comedian Freddy Beras-Goico dies aged 69

November 20, 2010

Dominican comedian has died at the age of 69 in the United States. Beras died at the Mount Sinai Medical Center on Thursday in. Admitted to the hospital on November 5, the comedian died on Thursday, three days before his 70th birthday, of.

Beras, who started his career as a cameraman in the 1960s, was also an actor and television presenter. As a child Beras fled Colombia with his family due to the dictatorship of. During the 1950s and 60s he became a political activist and was jailed in 1965. He reached national fame when he began to present a weekly variety television programme. During its thirty year run the show featured some of the most famous musicians from the Dominican Republic and Latin America.

Tributes have been paid to the late comedian. The president of the Dominican Republic,, said that he spoke out against the social and political conflicts of the country. He added that "He appealed with energy and integrity for the construction of a better society."

His son posted an announcement through his page. He said "It is with great pain that I announce the death of my father. Infinite thanks to all for your solidarity in these days. Peace to his remains."

His funeral is to take place in the Dominican Republic and his body is due to return there today.


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London cop fired for rape despite 'insufficient evidence' to prosecute

November 19, 2010

An officer with London's Metropolitan Police ('the Met') has been fired for raping a woman, despite the (CPS) declining to prosecute after saying there was insufficient evidence to prove the offence. The CPS would have to back the case up beyond reasonable doubt before a court, but the Met's internal hearing considered only the balance of probabilities.

The policeman, whose name was not released as he has not been charged, met the woman — who is in her early twenties — after she became unwell following a night drinking with friends at a hotel party in. The officer took her to a nearby pub where he had been drinking; later, he said he got her a glass of water, after which she vomited. CCTV footage showed the pair embrace. They then went to, where the officer was to sleep in a police locker room before going on duty that morning.

She would later claim to have little recollection of events, but that she awoke to find herself being raped. She told police in March last year, and the (IPCC) launched an investigation. The accused man stated at interview the sex was consensual. The IPCC's file was passed to the CPS.

Met Mark Simmons said "[t]his officer acted in an intolerable way and it is only right that once such dreadful behaviour was found proven the man was dismissed from the Met." IPCC Commissioner Rachel Cerfontyne said "[t]he actions of this officer will rightly appal the public as they have appalled me. His behaviour was in my view predatory and he exploited the vulnerability of a young woman. He... took her to police premises and had sex with her without her consent. ... His conduct would be contemptible from anyone — from a police officer it is nothing short of despicable." A Women Against Rape statement called the woman "...very courageous. It is very difficult to report a police officer to the force that the rapist belongs to and we know of a lot of women who are too scared to do that." The group called the CPS's actions "outrageous".


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Talk:Dominican comedian Freddy Beras-Goico dies aged 69

Expand slightly, it's missing a few facts
There's room for expansion here: — μ 19:01, November 18 2010 (UTC)
 * What was his TV show called?
 * Why did he flee Columbia?
 * Where is the funeral taking place?
 * The article also doesn't say when he actually died! The article is currently unreviewable without that information (and for some reason, the EPR gadget doesn't want to work) — μ 14:53, November 19 2010 (UTC)


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Thread:Comments:'Criminal in a police uniform' given eleven years jail for role in English drugs gang/England Gangs

Now I need to know more about England's gang problems. TO WIKIPEDIA!


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Thread:Comments:London fire extinguisher throw suspect bailed/Mobs

Mark Twain has described people in mobs as unruly. I don't blame him. I'm sure he wasn't thinking. And did it hit the officers? The article is a little unclear


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Thread:Comments:'Criminal in a police uniform' given eleven years jail for role in English drugs gang/Fucking hell

"The false retraction had perverted the course of justice, which meant 'the imposition of a prison sentence is inevitable'." - The Telegraph quotes the sentencing judge in Woman who accused husband of rape jailed for "falsely retracting" the claims - "A woman who claims she was repeatedly raped by her husband has been jailed for eight months for "falsely retracting" the allegations," the piece continues.

From this Wikinews piece, to quote myself: "Salim and Hafiz's mother Gulshan admitted perverting the course of justice; her role was to intimidate witnesses... Gulshan was given a 44-week sentence suspended for two years..."

Really? I could spout massive amounts of diatribe, but I'd porabably be jailed myself. Or just fined, if I'm lucky.


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"...giving glancing blows to two police officers..." - yes, but it was not a square hit. I think one received bruising.


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Knowing the guy involved personally, he is honestly one of the nicest people I have ever met. I have no doubt that he genuinely didn't want anyone to get hurt, and I honestly think that it was a simple lack of judgement. After all, if you're in a crowd like that, and everyone's shouting "Toss it, toss it, toss it", what are you going to do?


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Thread:Comments:London fire extinguisher throw suspect bailed/What a twat/reply (2)

Actually, a blog claims the chant was "stop throwing shit". As I commented in IRC, attempted murder may well have stuck but I didn't feel it to be in the public interest. Possibly the CPS did not either; possibly there are other reasons behind the charge.


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It's just as well you made your point without the diatribe.

Intimidating witnesses is pretty nasty. Is the Lord Chancellor paying attention to this chaos?


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I'd like to think the powers that be are watching, but I don't think it's a new problem. I've heard grumblings before, but it's only now I pay attention to a few stories that I see just how bad it gets.

See also my call for changed sentencing law and guidelines on rape. I know of a recent case where four rapes and (twelve?) sexual assaults all against one schoolgirl netted just ~7 years.


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I haven't a clue what happened on the roof. Surely "stop throwing shit" must have started after the fire extinguisher was thrown; unless something was thrown beforehand?


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I honestly don't recall if the blog said it came before or after.

As an aside, while he should be charged (assuming he actually chucked it) I can understand how one could get there. Yes, he is a twat for doing it, if he did - but, I say that as someone who has himself done twattish things.

I do hope he will eventually find a sympathetic employer if convicted.


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Robbery suspect flees on riding mower

November 19, 2010

After allegedly robbing a convenience store yesterday morning in, South Carolina, United States, a man fled the scene on a riding lawnmower. Police apprehended the suspect near the scene.

According to the Aiken County Sheriff's Office, Ricky New entered the store carrying a large stick, demanded money, assaulted the clerk with the stick, and left with an undisclosed amount of money. He then tried to make his getaway on a Craftsman mower. His face was concealed by a towel, but Ricky New lives nearby and the clerk identified him promptly after the incident.

New has been charged with armed robbery, and first degree.

Captain Troy Elwell, a spokesman for the Sheriff's Office, said "Never seen anything quite like this one. I’ve seen some strange cases, but a getaway vehicle as a lawnmower.  That doesn’t take a whole lot of thought to figure out that you’re not going to get too far on it."

"I’m getting a good amount of calls on this", he also said.

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Thread:Comments:London fire extinguisher throw suspect bailed/What a twat/reply (5)

It's just so senseless with respect to himself, never mind the danger imposed to others. Assuming he was there with the genuine intent to put pressure on the government and not just for a 'lark' then he's going to struggle to get in to a university, not just because he doesn't want to be saddled with much more debt, but because everybody knows him as 'that fire extinguisher guy'.

On the topic of the protest in general it's such a shame that the disruption ruined the message. The public image of students is already poor - I'm just glad I did my undergraduate when the tuition fees had only trebled to £3000


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Thread:Comments:'Criminal in a police uniform' given eleven years jail for role in English drugs gang/Fucking hell/reply (3)

You are probably right that the Ministry of Justice probably won't notice that a convicted witness intimidator did not go to jail.

I don't want "RICO" type laws that automatically give gang-related crime stiffer sentences. But I would like to see some sanity in sentencing.

I would like to think that the Lord Chancellor and his ministers discussed the prison sentence for the person who "falsely retracted" the rape allegation. I bet that discussion is exempt from the Freedom of Information Act, but a civilised society should expect judges to be held accountable in some way.

Sure, intimidation is not an excuse for a witness to withhold evidence (or to lie). Yet when that witness is the victim of the alleged crime, judges have leeway and discretion, and they should use that discretion in the interests of justice.

How many more crimes will now be hushed up, when witnesses have cause to fear the courts as much as they fear the accused?


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Thread:Comments:London fire extinguisher throw suspect bailed/What a twat/reply (6)

He's still a knucklehead for making that screwup to begin with.


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British airport closed after small jet transporting transplant organ crashes

November 20, 2010

All flights in and out of have been diverted or suspended until at least noon local time after a  carrying an  crashed on approach to the airport in Birmingham, England, during heavy fog. Two people were injured in the accident, one seriously. A spokesperson for the airport said: "We can confirm that an incident has occurred involving a private aircraft. The incident occurred on arrival into the airport and the emergency services are in attendance."

Chief Inspector Matt Markham confirmed that the aircraft was carrying an organ for transplantation, but said that it was undamaged in the accident and it had been taken from the aircraft. Later reports suggested that the had been transported to, where the operation was being carried out.

Inspector Markham that the police were "alerted to what was described as a 'hard landing' at the airport" at approximately 3:35 pm local time, and pledged to carry out a "thorough investigation" into the cause of the accident. He said: "It would appear the aircraft came down on landing and soon after there was a small fire within the aircraft. There were two casualties on board the plane. One we believe is in serious condition and has been airlifted to hospital; and the second one has been taken to hospital but with less significant injuries."

The aircraft was 'leaning to one side'
A witness, who was playing golf near the runway when the crash occurred, said that the aircraft was on fire and was "leaning to one side" as it was on approach to the airport. "As it was coming to land [the aircraft] was on fire and as it approached the runway it looked like it was leaning to one side slightly," he said. "Then, once it hit the runway there were sort of flames alongside the runway then it broke into a big fireball."

Another eyewitness said that she saw two fire engines on the scene in the immediate aftermath of the crash; a spokesperson for the {{w|West Midlands Ambulance Service]] added that paramedics were at the site of the accident. Reports suggested that the smoking aircraft came to a halt to the right of the runway after crashing into an {{w|instrument landing system}} beacon. Images of the airport taken around the time of the accident showed that the airport was shrouded in thick fog.

'A horrible noise'
Speaking to a local radio station, an airport worker who identified himself only as Alan, said that he heard "a horrible noise", before the aircraft "burst into flames with a trail of flames behind it." He added: "My guess is that some part of the wheels had hit the run way then some other part of it hit the outside. When I ran over to the plane all I could see was the tail and the rest was in flames. I ran towards it but then I realised it could have exploded. It wasn't on fire in the air just as it hit the ground. I saw two people trying to get out of the plane running away."

reported that the aircraft was approaching the runway at an "odd angle", before it "skidded" and caught fire. The spokesperson for Birmingham Airport added: "The airport is currently closed. If you are due to travel to the airport this evening, please contact your airline for further guidance and do not come to the airport at this time. No further information is available at the moment."


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Broadcast notes
Anything that is not in the sources was sourced from Sky News' television channel, which I am monitoring for updates.  wacky wace  17:31, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

All flights suspended

Two injured

In and out

One critically "Two fire engines rushing across" "we've been told the airport is closed" "on the edges of the runway" "crashed on apporoach"

"Think, dense fog" "cannot see anything." "see nothing but a few lights and that's all." "keeping people in check-in back" Cessna aircraft "walking wounded" "major incident"

Strange angle, skidded, caught fire "taken to hospital with serious injuries."

Organ was transported to hospital, operation successfully carried out.

Aircraft was approaching at "odd angle", "skidded", caught fire

Registration: G-VUEM (Additional research showed aircraft is Cessna Citation 501)

Markham interview
"alerted to what was described as a 'hard landing' at the airport"

"The airport authorities are actively involved with us"

"small fire within the aircraft"

Plane carrying organ for transplantation.

Organ still viable.

"Visibility appalling"

Visibility will "slow things down"

"thorough investigation"

"It would appear the aircraft came down on landing and soon after there was a small fire within the aircraft. There were two casualties on board the plane. One we believe is in serious condition and has been airlifted to hospital; and the second one has been taken to hospital but with less significant injuries."

Added source for additional confirmation
I'd like to understand [ this pre-publish edit] better. What was being confirmed — something that the pre-existing sources (counting OR) conflicted each other on? something they omitted? something they mentioned, but that seemed worth being especially sure of? --Pi zero (talk) 12:57, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find the last quote on the page in the OR or the sources. Bobby122   Contact Me   (C)  16:54, 20 November 2010 (UTC)


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I don't understand why you think a thrill-seeker is better than an actual genuine protester; other way round, surely?

I'm Scottish. It's subsidised. Were I English, I can honestly say that I would not consider Uni a viable option. I'm fairly well off. What on Earth are students less lucky than I supposed to do? The whole thing stinks.


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I could always shoot for it under the Act (or re-read the Act to identify if it is indeed exempt). I've already got an FoI request pending on that and plan to sub another tonight. I shan't explain what publicly, at least while it's pending, but I'm happy to email you with details.


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Talk:English jury returns mix of verdicts in policeman's serial rape trial

A few points

 * At one point, a woman's age is simply given as 'in her fifties' - this is based on a source which gives a proper age, but the maths does not add up compared to her age at the time of the alleged rape.

 * The Journal/Chronical series are usually split accross two pages; it's very easy to miss the option to change page so look out for this.

 * No info taken from related news.

 * One source mentions a name - I assume the source to be mistaken, as no other sources have it and victim identity in such cases is protected by law, making it impossible for the source to get ahold of it. Please don't add it to the piece. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:04, 19 November 2010 (UTC)


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Thread:Comments:London cop fired for rape despite 'insufficient evidence' to prosecute/On What Evidence?

I'm curious as in to what evidence was produced. I'm no fan of the police, and a quick review of my contribs will reveal why, but the polis are orgs whereas officers are individuals, and I have no bias against or dislike of this man without seeing the I.P.C.C. file.

It seems clear to me we're not getting the full story. The sources I've seen don't seem to have all the evidence - why else wold the victims' group demand prosecution, the I.P.C.C. call him a rapist and the Met fire him? Most likely, he interviewed poorly; maybe something didn't check out, stuff sounded suspect. Whatever it is, it better be damn good if the Met fancy their chances before an employment tribunal.

Now, if there isn't anything else in that file, let's analyse the evidence:

 * She was clearly comfortable with him, if only through inebriation, in that they cuddled happily enough and she went apparently voluntarily to sleep with him.

 * She was incredibly drunk and does not remember the night.

 * She claims to have awakened to discover herself being raped.

So, it seems a reasonable line of events is that she consented and passed out mid-shag. It is not actually impossible for this to have been very brief and almost unnoticeable, but if she wakes - even within seconds - without remembering how she got there, we end up here. Further, might not her recollection be impaired? Yes, drunkards can make decent witnesses, but not if they can't remember anything.

The obvious response is that he should not have taken advantage of a drunken girl, and that taking her to a locker room was pretty seedy. However, whilst not something the Met will want from their employees, giving someone what they want while they're pissed is not an offence, and oft remembered by both parties as a good night out.

Really, it's a clear not guilty verdict. However, there is no real convincing display of evidence for innocence either; in my homeland, not proven would be the correct verdict. Without more information, it's impossible to reconstruct the night's events.

So... What's missing from the public record? What was the evidence used to 'prove' rape? And, why has the public not been informed how we got to this decision? Something hasn't found it's way into the media, that much is clear. Unable to do anythhing in fair, open court, the Met seems to have created it's own little closed court - and everyone's ganging up to join in.


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Thread:Comments:London cop fired for rape despite 'insufficient evidence' to prosecute/On What Evidence?/reply

A drunk person can't give consent, legally speaking. The fact that millions of such acts go unpunished every day is no excuse. He admitted to having sex with her, she was drunk, that is rape. 24.159.24.36 (talk) 23:55, 19 November 2010 (UTC)


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That depeneds how drunk we're talking, now doesn't it? Something else we don't know.


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Thread:Comments:London cop fired for rape despite 'insufficient evidence' to prosecute/On What Evidence?/reply (3)

If he had sex with her while she was so drunk as to not being able to consent that could be rape.

The article doesn't state how many hours had passed between her being drunk and the sexual intercourse.

I personally consider violent rape to be a more heinous crime than murder, as the victim is left alive, and "date rape" to be a close second, but in this instance, with the few facts reported, I would have to come out onside of the male. Females can and do make false "date rape" allegations. Because of the inhumanity of the crime, men may be judged guilty on the thinnest of evidence.

Without details of the IPCC report however, all we post here is merely conjecture.


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I agree with every word of that. The Scots not proven verdict could be made for rape cases, it's so apt. I'm tempted to see if the Commission has released it's report and, if not, to use Freedom of Information to try and force them to cough it up. With retractions, of course, to protect identities and whatnot, but still...

The question is so drunk. It could be that that's the reason the CPS wimped out - and if that's the only reason, it would be bottling it.

Rape v. murder - I've previously called for comparable sentencing guidelines and laws. That, for my friends South of the border, means a mandatory life sentence with a 15-year recommended minimum before aggravating or mitigating factors; it's fairly similar for the other UK jurisdictions. Two rapes would be looking at 25-30 years, and three or more could well land you the whole life tariff - a rare example of English law I'd like imported to Scotland.

Conjecture is all we have, owing to the total lack of information in the media. That, to me, is unacceptable.


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I know nothing of the specifics of the case, but it's possible that the police had evidence against him that proved he was a rapist, but was inadmissible in court for technical reasons, leading them to believe that a conviction would not be possible.


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If inadmissable, that brings us right back to the employment tribunal - admit it or re-employ him. This tale twists no matter how it's looked at....


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I won't dig into the paperwork by email, but I look forward to reading the outcomes. Even if there is an exemption (I hope there isn't), I think the information holder often has the option to release the information.


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User talk:Jakla~enwikinews

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Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Jakla. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Jakla~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

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Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:19, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

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Serb pilots defend colleague in Air India Express disaster

November 21, 2010

The Serbian Pilots Association has defended the actions of the Serbian pilot aboard the jet  earlier this year, killing 158 of the 166 on board. Investigators have suggested he had failed to follow procedure and reacted slowly to trouble.

The Court of Inquiry found that captain Zlatko Glusica was sleeping through much of the three-hour Dubai– flight and "disorientated" as the -800 came in to land; it overshot the clifftop runway on May 22 and ran over the edge. In the immediate aftermath of the crash, one survivor said: "Immediately on touching the ground, the aircraft jerked and in a few moments hit something. Then it split in the middle and caught fire. I just jumped from the gap."

The pilots' group has said Gluscia was fatigued owing to "pressures" flying in India and said he should not be "victimised". The airport the aircraft had been attempting to land at is considered a challenging one, as it is on a flat plateau bordered by a valley. A former official from India's aviation ministry said that "Mangalore is a difficult field because it is on a plateau. From all accounts the visibility was all right. One can’t make any conclusions."

Pilots questioned the role of First Officer H S Ahluwalia, who three times requested a during approach. "He should have taken over the controls, provided he was experienced and had the confidence to do so," one pilot said; another asked "[w]hat was the First Officer doing all the while? The non-handling pilot should take over the control if he or she thinks there’s going to be a crash, instead of sitting like a robot."

A statement by the association said "[t]he individualisation of guilt ... is intended to shift the responsibility from those who have driven the crew and the passengers to death." They feel the investigation "created an ugly picture about the Serbian pilots... without taking into account the circumstances" leading to the accident.


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Calm returns to Salt, Jordan after riots over police shooting; 35 arrested

November 21, 2010 Riots in the town of in Jordan have ended. The violence followed the shooting of a man at a police roadblock; 34 have been arrested over the riots, as has the policeman who pulled the trigger.

25-year-old Suleiman Khreisat was shot in the head on Wednesday and remains in critical condition; according to police, his car appeared suspicious, as it had no licence plates and broken windows. A police major gave chase after Khreisat allegedly failed to stop and shot him; he is now detained for use of excessive force against a civilian.

"Salt residents wanted to know who shot their townsman, demanding that police identify him so that they could take revenge," added Lieutenant Colonel Mohammed al-Khatib. Rioters attacked police kiosks, a traffic police building, and police cars. Stones were thrown at officers. Non-police targets included cash machines, streetlights, shop windows, cars and trees that were burned in two town squares. Roadblocks of burning tyres were formed.

"Several police officers and citizens were also wounded and have been hospitalized," according to al-Khatib, who added that tear gas was used to battle rioters. He says all 34 arrested will face trial.


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UK students protest for second time this month

November 24, 2010

Mass-walkouts took place today in cities throughout the United Kingdom, as students campaigned against rising tuition fees and government cuts. Protests took place for the second time in as many weeks in places such as Aberystwyth, Cambridge, Southampton, Liverpool, and Brighton. Events included a 'study-in' at the Edinburgh headquarters, a 10am protest in  attended by thousands, and a 'dress in red' march in Manchester.

In Cardiff, at least a hundred students rallied outside the main gates of 's main building, in an event organised by a group named Actions Against Cuts Cardiff, with the support of a member of the executive committee. Occupations of university buildings have also begun in Birmingham, Plymouth, and the Royal Holloway.

In London, students are infuriated by what they say is 's decision to ban anti-cut related meetings from their campus earlier this month. One student described it as "undemocratic and scandalous" as, according to the students, they were forced out of their booked room by security guards, and prevented from partaking on any on-campus meetings -- but South Bank University maintains that it was a "misunderstanding" due to a double-booked room. Dr. Phil Cardew, Pro Vice-Chancellor of LSBU, maintained that "freedom of speech lies at the very heart of the higher education community whether it is academic, political or social debate", and that "the students were encouraged to continue their discussions in the Students Union".

Not all the demonstrations were peaceful. Central London saw two officers injured as the police attempted to hold back the protesters, a police van attacked and vandalised, and three arrests were made. Police, keen to make sure that the 30 Millbank occupation was not repeated, were out in force, clashing with students in Cambridge, where two arrests were made, and protesters of up to a thousand, according to protest organisers, as dusk approached.

The group that organised the protests, the "National Campaign Against Fees And Cuts" (NCAFAC), told students in the run-up to the protests to not "be afraid of blocking traffic if you have enough people". On their blog, they stated that "[they] would like to see university students planning to march around their campus, bursting into lecture theatres and spreading the word", a move that would breach many University codes of conduct. When contacted by Wikinews, the group did not respond to requests for clarification.

Universities are facing more than £900m ($1.4bn) cuts in the next three years. This protest comes as, earlier this month, 50,000 students and lecturers took to the streets in a National Union of Students organised rally, which culminated in the violent occupation of the Conservative Party campaign headquarters at 30 Millbank. In Westminster, a student suspected of throwing a fire extinguisher off the headquarters' roof pleaded guilty in court today, under the charge of violent disorder, and will appear in Southwark Crown Court at a later date for sentencing, the maximum of which is five years imprisonment. Some protesters involved in the 30 Millbank occupation led an 'energising meeting' in Cardiff yesterday, prior to today's demonstration.

Many students do not understand the reasoning behind the cuts. The student group, Cardiff University Socialist Students, wonder why, compared to the "£120 billion the government throws away every year on evaded, avoided and uncollected taxes", the "few billion" required to pay tuition fees is "tiny". The group also advocates cutting the in order to pay for fees, and wonder why the vice-chancellor of the university was awarded a 4% pay rise (to £275k p.a.) compared to last year, whilst during the economic recession.

Last week, three hundred sixth-formers marched in Finchley, Margaret Thatcher's old constituency, throwing shirts at the local Tory headquarters, echoing the phrase "They ripped the shirts of our backs". Lower income college students are hit badly by the budget cuts, as plans to abolish Educational Maintenance Allowance (EMA), the up-to £30 a week subsidy for 16-19 year-old full-time students with household incomes of £30,810 or less.

The protests were primarily organised on the popular social networking site, Facebook. One Facebook user said earlier this week that the protests were "a perfect opportunity for students to show how disappointed we are with Nick Clegg", who was advised by security officers earlier to desist from cycling from his home in Putney to Downing Street over fears that he could be pounced upon by angry students en route.


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I have e-mailed, and received a reply from 'Cardiff University Socialist Students', who recently sent us a press release. The conversation was cc'd to scoop. I have also e-mailed, with no reply (yet), the press contact for National Campaign Against Fees and Cuts (press release), with pretty much the same questions, again cc'd to scoop. I'd like to request that people help e-mail various student bodies that might be staging walk-outs, etcetera.

It would appear that these demonstrations are not centrally controlled -- with the possible exception of London, where a protest has been planned for 10am in Trafalgar Square. A few other places have Facebook groups (Indymedia link). I'm planning on e-mailing a few of these creators; my plan being to have a UK-wide "this is what happened today" round-up. As such, I'd love to have some help come Wednesday: any volunteers? — μ 14:31, November 21 2010 (UTC)

 * I've also e-mailed Manchester with a near-duplicate, again cc'd to scoop, as they have an e-mail posted on their website. — μ 14:47, November 21 2010 (UTC)
 * ...and I've replied to Cardiff, with a request for CC pictures. — μ 15:25, November 21 2010 (UTC)

 * An a MOS-unfriendly blog source: here — μ 15:46, November 21 2010 (UTC)

 * The Facebook quote is from somewhere on this event page. It's not attributed as I copied it to clipboard and then could not find it again... — μ 16:25, November 21 2010 (UTC)
 * E-mailed the PR department of Cardiff Uni; Brian helpfully phoned them too (thanks!). — μ 10:42, November 23 2010 (UTC)
 * E-mail from Cardiff Uni received; forwarded to scoop — μ 15:11, November 23 2010 (UTC)
 * An e-mail will automagically sent to Cardiff Uni Socialist Students today at 1400UTC, the time that their protest finishes, requesting a statement as to what happened, and a plea for CC-BY images. — μ 09:43, November 24 2010 (UTC)
 * Images received via a user in IRC, ambiguous licencing though -- uploaded to Commons as "copyright holder allows redistribution". Got a delightful 18pt-type press release from anticuts.com, who, incidentally, replied to my e-mail from earlier with a standard boilerplate press release. E-mailed South Bank Uni yesterday, I think the press people went and asked the vice-chancellor on my behalf for a statement(!). — μ 18:22, November 24 2010 (UTC)

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 * Thanks. — μ 17:47, 4 February 2011 (UTC)