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January 25, 2006 A report commissioned under a contract to ascertain the effects of the  and  wars on recruitment of personnel into the United States Army has been completed. Written by a retired U.S. Army officer and executive director of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, Andrew Krepinevich, it was not publicly released. Upon inquiry, a copy was provided to the Associated Press.

As part of the conclusions reached in the Krepinevich report, it notes a drop in Army recruiting for the year 2005, a first since 1999, which came after the Army recently adopted policies of offering increased enlistment incentives. The report states that the Army is unable to maintain troop deployment to Iraq for a period adequate to disable the insurgency occurring there, and is faced with declining recruitment and re-enlistment rates.

In an Krepinevich interview, he said the Army remains an effective force and has plans to expand the number of available combat brigades for use in Iraq and Afghanistan. The conditions described by the report are listed as being triggered by simultaneous force restructuring, training requirements, and troop deployment requirements as well as the length of the engagement. Krepinevich also said in the interview that he believes the reason that Pentagon officials do not publicly state that the reduction in troop levels was prompted by stress on the Army; "That gives too much encouragement to the enemy."

, former NATO commander and retired four-star general in the US Army detailed his observations in an interview given on  in December of 2005; "Whether they're broken or not, I think I would say if we don't change the way we're doing business, they're in danger of being fractured and broken, and I would agree with that."

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's comments made in a news conference at the Pentagon one day after the Associated Press article was published declared that the report "is just not consistent with the facts." He continued and stated of the US Army that "The force is not broken," and that such thoughts were "almost backward."

He supported this with the following comments "The world saw the United States military go halfway around the world in a matter of weeks, throw the Al Qaida and Taliban out of Afghanistan, in a landlocked country thousands and thousands of miles away. They saw what the United States military did in Iraq. And the message from that is not that this armed force is broken, but that this armed force is enormously capable."

He acknowledged the unique requirements of the campaigns in Iraq and in Afghanistan with the statement that "There is no question if a country is in a conflict and we are in the global war on terror, it requires our forces to do something other than what they do in peacetime."

On the matter of the review of US defense strategy planned for February 2006, he stated that it was "the next step in a long line of bold changes."

US Representative incited controversy when he called for an early exit from Iraq in the fall of 2005, arguing in part that the US Army was "broken, worn out."

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/me don't like conservitives. (sorry) Bawolff ☺☻ 05:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

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Fears about Songhua settled

January 25, 2006

Following an explosion in November of 2005, China's Songhua river was contaminated with nitrobenzene and similar chemicals. Its clean-up by The State Environmental Protection Administration and others was covered previously on Wikinews.

The State Environmental Protection Administration Minister Zhou Shengxian has said that "The water quality of the Songhua River will not exceed national standards on a large scale during the spring thaw, and fish in the river and from pounds along the banks are safe to eat." Zhou further guaranteed that livestock near the river banks and products from such livestock to be safe to eat, and that the growth of crops will not be inhibited by use of water from the Songhua River for irrigation.

Concerns of residents that the possible release of remnants of nitrobenzene that may have been trapped in the ice and in the sediment might occur and endanger the safe utilization of the river after the influence of a period of being frozen have been settled.

Zhou said that research indicated only a small amounts of the toxic chemical within the ice and that the quantity that could be entrapped in the sediment was limited by its structure as composed mostly of sand. These characteristics and the inevitable high flow rate of the river once the winter's ice melts in the spring will allow the water to be safe said Zhou, referencing an interim assessment of the river spill done by a consortium which began the assessment on December 13 2005.

Chen Jining of Tsinghua University's Department of Environmental Science and Engineering, commented that "Even in the rare cases when levels are beyond standards in some places, we also have the technology in place for example, activated carbon to ensure safe drinking water supplies."

Zhou has also stated that the joint program with Russia to monitor boundary rivers will continue. The front of the pollution from the explosion has been predicted to reach the estuary of the Armur river in Russia near the end of January 2006.

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Talk:Study: Partisan political thought is predominantly unconscious and emotional

Please be more specific by what you mean by specifics. I'll add a source to the draft paper if its available, but I'm not sure if he'll have it up. My guess is that this is based upon conference abstracts & the NYT interviewed the guy. Nyarlathotep 08:04, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * He has drafts available, but you have to harass his staff to get one, as they want to know who reads it before publication. Nyarlathotep 14:41, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

One thing you might consider
"A considerable body of research..." this phrase reads to me as "weasel words", although I'm sure it is justified. You might consider finding one or more authority and quote from them along the lines of Dr. So-and-so expressed the consensus of the research community in this field when xe said "blah blah." Just an idea. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 08:21, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * maybe these quotes can help:
 * Prior research suggests voters behave differently in different emotional states but has not established whether politicians can use campaigns to manipulate emotions and thereby cause changes in political behavior.

 * from the abstract of Ted Brader. Striking a Responsive Chord: How Political Ads Motivate and Persuade Voters by Appealing to Emotions, Volume 49, Issue 2, American Journal of Political Science, (April 2005), draft. note that it is a weaker claim.
 * One critique of traditional voting models is that they do not take into account the role of emotions. However, a number of studies have shown that in the electoral context emotions have impact as well

 * from Martin Rosema, Passion Beats Reason: Emotionality versus Rationality in Vote Choice, Paper to be presented at the Twenty-Eighth Annual Scientific Meeting of the International Society of Political Psychology (ISPP), Toronto, Canada, 3-6 July 2005. draft.
 * Doldrums 09:34, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, its a weak sentence, but some such sentence needs to be included to help explain whats not new about this work. We can probably site this fact to some wikipedia article, maybe one qualifing for wikipediapar. Nyarlathotep 13:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Odd, Advertising Psychology has no wikipedia article, dispite the fact that its a 100 year old field! Nyarlathotep 14:27, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I majored and worked in advertising; we like to keep the "psychology" part of our business out of the public arena:) but this wikipedia article Subliminal message is not too bad an intro. The external links are useful, Wilson Bryan Key's 1975 book ties subliminal messaging to Orwellian society, and the reference to the Bush Sr. campaign is interesting.Neutralizer 13:27, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didn't even read that because I assumed it was going to be garbage. :)  It would be nice if Wikipedia had real articles about this subject; there is plenty of interesting research in the area.  Nyarlathotep 13:52, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * agreed; it's an extremely important topic. But I am surprised to hear the -phrase "I assumed" coming from you. I wonder if Newton ever uttered it?:) Neutralizer 15:43, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

first hand quotes
both drafts list e-mail addresses of the authors. original reporters out there might be interested in emailing them or other researchers for a quote.

see also George E. Marcus, Professor, Political Science Dept., Williams College, Massachusetts, USA. his work was well-cited in those papers i looked at. and his publications include
 * George E. Marcus, W. Russell Neuman, and Michael MacKuen, "Affective Intelligence and Political Judgment." 2000. University of Chicago Press.
 * George E. Marcus, "The Sentimental Citizen: Emotion in Democratic Politics." 2002, Penn State University Press.
 * George E. Marcus and Michael MacKuen, "Emotions and Politics: The Dynamic Functions of Emotionality," chapter in Citizens and Politics: Perspectives from Political Psychology, Jim Kuklinski (Ed.), Cambridge University Press, 2001.

wikinews
I guess many discussions on wikinews lend ample support this study (although there are editors that can see beyond partisan lines...) --vonbergm 19:08, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

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I added "Study:" to the front of this to indicate it's not a statement from wikinews. sinblox (talk) 03:02, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * "Study says" might be better, but whatever. Nyarlathotep 10:22, 26 January 2006 (UTC)


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User:Kabir~enwikinews/Freedom Figting-The Baloochistan Way

January 25, 2006 editorial The Fighting In Baloochistan was a controversial thing for 58 years. The claiming of president Mushareff recently had opened this news a nice attention of media also from USA.

The history of Baloochistan had started from many years ago but the fact of freedom fighting had started from the acquisition of the area illegly by the pakistani army at the time of 1948.during that days the division of India into two seperate countries,INDIA and Pakistan, had started.

There the british demanded every one in the british province to stay either with india or pakistan but some of the provinces decided neither to join these countries.The important provinces were Kashmir and Baloochistan.The peoples in Baloochistan is known as Balooch and they disliked on joining Pakistan.The example for such a personality was Khan abdul Gaffer Khan(who is known as Frontier Gandhi).

But the pakistanies attacked the area and now also the struggle for Freedom continues.But Pakistan hesitates to the matter to compare with Kashmir since the area is very much rich in the terms of oil and natural resources.

Letter to United Nations by Baloochies


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wikinews is not a controversial place
Neutrality (diversity) is important here.

You send that mail tto me :

>hello friend, >kindly tell me where is the controversy,so that I can edit it or pm me, >:-) >kabir

i think you have your answer already on your article talk page.

you know, there so little time and too much news to report fairly. help us if you want, but don't play some wicked game

and i don't know where Baloochistan is (ok i looked on wikipedia) sorry for my lack of culture. Jacques Divol 15:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

User:Kabir/Freedom Figting-The Baloochistan Way
I've moved this article to your user space as it appears to be an editorial or opinion article, which are not accepted as articles on Wikinews. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 17:22, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

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User:Kabir~enwikinews

Hello Friends, I am Kabir,I choosed it because it is the name of a harmless VIRUS(Vital Information Resources Under Siege) for series 60(eg.Nokia 6600,7610 etc).

Kindly advice and comment me on my Contributions.

ABOUT ME
I am a post graduate in Computer Science.Almost fluent in ENGLISH(Somebody says Horrible,though). I am now a Leucturer, My interests are in Embedded programming, C++, JAVA and Operating systems.

I like many controversial Things like ARAB-Israel relations and history. I am doing part-time research in the specified areas.

KABIR

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Iran accused of blocking BBC Website

January 25, 2006

The BBC News Website and a Civil Liberties organization are claiming that the BBC Persian website has been blocked by the government of Iran.

Reports indicate that the cities of Shiraz and Zahedan are unable to access bbcpersian.com. As of press time no explanation has been given for the block. The BBC said that it would approach the Iranian government to ask about getting unblocked.

Iranian internet providers routinely block pornographic and anti-Islamic websites, but they also block some pro-reform websites and blogs, sometimes permanently. This follows a history of alleged censorship - in 2004 the pro-reform Emrooz, Rooydad and Baamdad online newspapers were reported to have been shut down or blocked often.

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User talk:Kabir~enwikinews/Freedom Figting-The Baloochistan Way

For a start, some random page on Geocities is not a valid source. There are also a significant number of grammatical and spelling errors throughout the article which does not conform to the Neutral Point of View policy – It unduly favours the Baloochistan point of view. I not that the corresponding Baloochistan article on Wikipedia has been nominated for a rewrite, and will comment that it is not appropriate to move to a different wiki project because you can't get your message across elsewhere. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:07, 25 January 2006 (UTC)


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This is my talk page. There are many like it, but this one's mine. :)

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Talk:Mario Draghi succeeds Antonio Fazio as Bank of Italy governor

Please to add the interwikilink to the italian version:  [[it:Mario Draghi nuovo Governatore Banca d'Italia 2005 ]]
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Talk:Iran accused of blocking BBC Website

NPOV
Made a few little edits as the sources have not confirmed that Iran did anything ; e.g."It's probably done by the main government ISP."

I suppose it conceivably could be some fundamentalist hackers doing this as opposed to the government of Iran. Anyway, although it's short, I think it's ready for publishing; any objections? Neutralizer 17:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)


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Scientists discover Earth-like planet

January 25, 2006

An international group of 73 scientists using 4 projects (PLANET led by Jean-Philippe Beaulieu and Martin Dominik, RoboNet led by Michael Bode and Keith Horne, OGLE led by Andrzej Udalski, and MOA led by Phil Yock) from 32 institutions in 12 countries have discovered the smallest Earth-like planet yet.

The new planet is about 25,000 light years away and is close to the center of the Milky Way.

The discovery was announced in the journal Nature. The journal also states the planet was found using a method called gravitational microlensing, which detects small planets with a mass like that of Earth.

Gravitational microlensing is where a light from a distant star is bent and magnified by the gravitational field of a foreground star. The presence of a planet around the foreground star causes light from the distant star to become momentarily brighter.

However, scientists say that the cold temperatures on the planet make the chance of finding any life on it "unlikely."

"We may predict with reasonable probability that microlensing will discover planets with masses like that of Earth at a similar distance from their stars and with comparable surface temperature," said study co-author Bohdan Paczynski from Princeton University.

So far the planet only goes by OGLE-2005-BLG-390Lb, and takes about ten years to orbit its parent star, a red dwarf, a star that is smaller and much cooler than our own Sun.

Scientists say the new planet, which is about five and a half times the mass of Earth, could either have a rocky core and a thin atmosphere, or be a small ice/gas world like Neptune, but in either case, its "very large orbit and cooler parent star, makes it a very cold world."

The predicted surface temperature is -220° Celsius (-364° F), which means that should it have a rocky core, the planet may more closely resemble a massive version of Pluto with a surface of frozen liquids and gas. Otherwise the planet would be a liquid mass, wrapped in clouds of ice crystals and gas, much like Neptune.

"This is very exciting and important," said Professor Michael Bode from Liverpool John Moores University, a principal investigator for the RoboNet project which helped to collaborate on the research. "This is the most Earth-like planet we have discovered to date, in terms of its mass and the distance from its parent star. Most of the other planets that have been discovered are either much more massive, much hotter or both."

This is the third planet in two years that scientists have found using gravitational microlensing.

In the past, more than 150 planets outside our solar system were found using a technique known as the radial velocity method. This method observes a wobble in stars caused by the planet's gravitational effects.

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Business jet crashes in California killing four

January 25, 2006

At McClellan-Palomar Airport in Carlsbad, California, United States, a Cessna 560 twin engine jet skidded off the runway and burst into flames immediately after. Four people were killed in the accident.

The Associated Press reports that the plane had run through a barricade and fell down a 100-150 foot cliff, which left parts of the plane in a trail behind it. It then hit the side of the Carlsbad Airport Self-Storage building before it came to a stop in a twisted metal ball of flame.

One of the victims was Janet Shafran who was the wife of Ketchum City Councilman Steven Shafran. The Union Leader, a Manchester, New Hampshire newspaper, also reports that another one of the victims was Frank H. Jellinek, Jr., of Hampton, N.H. According to the Union Leader, Jellinek was one of the state's most prominent corporate executives. Jellinek Jr. was chairman emeritus of Fisher Scientific in Hampton since Aug. 2, 2004.

By the end of the day Tuesday, the San Diego County Medical Examiner's office had not yet confirmed the identities of the two pilots who were also killed. They are believed to be local residents.


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Talk:Fears about Songhua settled

This should have a Related News section with the appropriate wikinews stories in it, I'm not so sure about the other sections in the story. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:16, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I thought that links to the State Environmental Protection Administration homepage and to the Tsinghua University Department of Environmental Science and Engineering might be useful to assess the meaning of statements from those sources by those not familiar with them. For this purpose is the external link section not appropriate, given that they are links to pages outside of the Wiki projects? The link to the previous story in a newly added Related News section has been made, that is the convention? Opalus 20:27, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:New report details strain on US Army

All exact quotes available at the time from the source located had been used. All paraphrasing of quotes and report components was present in divergent form in the source article at the time of writing. Opalus 20:41, 25 January 2006 (UTC) Exact quotes are unavailable for the paraphrasing of the report and will not be made available according to the article and not located for the paraphrasing of the interview. It is not policy approved even though all are present in the sources of the article? If so, the interview paraphrasing could be removed but I thought it tended to balance NPOV more effectively by its inclusion. Opalus 20:51, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Paraphrasing is not allowed under the NPOV policy. You must include exact quotes.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 20:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I must declare opposition to the return to development given the present justification as I have not paraphrased any available quotes which so far as it appears is what the policy was directed at preventing. If there is direct policy reference on a policy page forbidding use of source material paraphrasing of interview for which no transcript can be located or against use of paraphrasing from source articles of reports that will not be publicly release, I will drop this upon its direction and identification as valid. All paraphrasing was done by the AP in their original article about their interview with Krepinevich on this matter. On the alternate potential application of the alleged paraphrasing violation as to the report, I have already stated the nature of the report and the original articles support it as not publicly available and that all paraphrasing of it is the only source. This is supported by the AP original article also, which has been added as a source to the wikinews article. Opalus 21:23, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * With that said, then the quotes where exclusive to the AP and cannot be used in the article as it may cite copyvio. I think the tags should stay. Jason Safoutin 21:27, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * If that's the case, then this article should also remove all exclusive content to the AP. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 21:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I have not included intentional direct copies of the paraphrasing but rather reworded the limited information conveyed in those provided instances. If I have, unknowingly, not differentiated these phrases adequate for the fair use here please identify them so that I may correct those phrases. AP does not practice exclusion in this regard, the story has been effectively republished by both China Daily and USA Today under AP permission. Opalus 21:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

 * but the sites state that "in an interview", which was done by AP. That being th case, the quotes are exclusive to the AP. But regardless cannot be paraphrased. The mere rewording and including of the "quotes" makes the artilce highly subjectable to copyvio. BUT I am not going to add the tag unless I get any agreement from other users. Jason Safoutin 21:37, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * The issue with this is that USA Today and China Daily spend money to reprint or use AP stories as basis for their articles. We do not.  Therefore, we cannot use this source for the article, if it contains exclusive information or quotes.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 21:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

According to the AP FAQ (http://www.ap.org/pages/about/faq.html#6):

All requests for republication of AP material must be in writing, clearly stating the purpose and manner in which the copy will be used. All republished material must carry AP credit. Unless specifically noted otherwise, all permission is given for one-time use only. No political candidate, political party, political action committee, polemical organization, or any group formed for partisan purpose may use AP copy in any publication. There may be a fee for reprint use.

This however is not a reprint. It applies rather in my mind at least as it is not such direct reprint to questions of fair dealing, for which in Australia for example specific exception is made for application of news; also in the US fair use allows for use in news reporting. What potential violations remain? Opalus 21:56, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

 * The argument that we can not use AP as a source seems ludicrous and specious to me at first blush; could this pov be explained more succinctly perhaps? Neutralizer 22:19, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Paraphrasing outlawed?
MrM; regarding your comment above; "Paraphrasing is not allowed under the NPOV policy. You must include exact quotes." Please provide the specific reference in our NPOV policy which outlaws paraphrasing as I have been unable to find it. Neutralizer 22:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * AP material was already used in USA today and etc. They PAID for it and have PERMISSION to use it. Unless you have WRITTEN permission from AP...that material CANNOT be used. Quotes paraphrased could be misleading as to what the person quoted is saying. There for paraphrasing is not allowed as it may MISLEAD readers. Jason Safoutin 22:19, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Jason, do you perhaps know what section of our NPOV policy MrM is referring to? Neutralizer 22:35, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Written permission is required for reprinting only by the FAQ on AP policies. US Fair Use and others for example Australian Fair Dealing allow usage as I have intended to use the source. If it violates those policies in a way that can be corrected the task is to meet those policies, not suppress the article for its content based on false and invalid or at least as yet unvalidated interpretations that it is somehow a reprint by any AP definition. It was not certain whether policy was for disputed tags to remain or not, is it policy or convention to leave them until the dispute is settle or to remove them until justification validation? Opalus 22:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

 * That's a very good question; anyone may remove a tag if they feel it is unwarranted BUT some admins. will often call that "site disruption" and a block may result. There have been minimum requirements that a tag be justified; as far as I can see. Neutralizer 22:35, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Please provide actionable objections
I do not know if MrM is still involved with the article, but if anyone thinks there are actionable objections, please list them here so they can be dealt with and the article move forward. An editor has put much work into this story. Neutralizer 22:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I asked Amgine(IRC) to have a look. Neutralizer 22:49, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

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"Amgine> This article does not mention Krepinevich as an interview: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/ARMY_BREAKING_POINT?SITE=JRC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

 I'm workign through the other sources.

 This source does not mention Krepinevich as an interview: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/R/RUMSFELD?SITE=JRC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

 This one does: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-01-24-army-study_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

 Not AP, I note.

 No, it is AP, just in USAtoday

 China Daily is the same as the last story, just in a different venue.

 This sentence is the only quote from the private interview: ""You really begin to wonder just how much stress and strain there is on the Army, how much longer it can continue,""

 so we should just take out that sentence?

 All other quotes are from the report, and not from the interview (which was probably by phone).

 If that sentence is in there, yes."

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So, that sentence is not in the article; therefore there is no copyvio, it seems to me. Neutralizer 23:07, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

On specified complaints
I must apologize to MrMiscellanious for my former misinterpretation of his complaints. The currently provided Rumsfeld paraphrased view was present in the China Daily article and adapted at the initial writing. I have located a new article with his direct response to this specific event and left it as a source, I unfortunately do not have time at the moment to refine the article for its use instead. Would alternate use of its material and listing it as source satisfy the Rumsfeld aspect of the complaint? As to the the Murtha aspect, this site has a summary with such a quote: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-12-01-murtha-iraq_x.htm. Would use of its material and listing as a source satisfy the Murtha aspect of the complaint? Again, it is unfortunate my time is limited at the moment so it must be left to another to correct those aspects of the article but if it is not done when I next have time I promise to make those corrections. Opalus 01:52, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't care where they are located. I want them attributed as full quotes, or explain who paraphrased.  I refuse to respond to your every disagreement anymore; so don't expect it from me.  Listing a source of the quote is not sufficient enough.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 04:06, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * MrM, you have no reason to get upset here. If you had laid out your objection clearly from the beginning, there would not have been any discussion. Pointing toward the Murtha and Rumsfeld quotes like you did the second time you taged the article took you just as much time as your first comment did. If you had explained your objections properly in the first place, there would not have been any discussion at all! So please, next time try to be constructive in your criticism (in which case it would be greatly appreciated)! --vonbergm 04:16, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * If readers would have read the article, and read my complaints, it would be impossible for them to miss what I brought attention to. Please, let's use a little sense.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 11:43, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I wrote the initial and quite a bit of the final article and did not understand your first complaint. Perhaps in that sense I am a bit dim. In the future if you would provide some specific identifying detail as to what lines you may have complaint about in articles I edit in the future like your second complaint had here it should allow for faster resolution. That I believe was the intent of Vonbergm's comment. Opalus 12:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe I should not have assumed that a fast resultion is in everybody's interest. And Opalus, it looks like not just you but also at least Neutralizer, Amgine and me had the same problem. --vonbergm 18:27, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest you get your eyes checked then. It should be fairly obvious when someone is said to have stated something, but no exact quotes are there, that you would get what my message was.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 11:30, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Can't get a fix on a complaint, but I think this story needs to be reported. -Edbrown05 06:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * ditto. Neutralizer 13:19, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

68.210.75.101 Identity
Apologies, I was not aware that I was not logged in, I am the user 68.210.75.101 who edited. Opalus 08:02, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Way cool. (neat work) -Edbrown05 08:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

 * "help". Can you look at the text to the image, I cant get it to show upp. International 08:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Fixed image text display, and added comma that seemed necessary. Based off of code used for successful image by Vishakh in the US ambassador links India's civil nuclear initiative to Iran vote article. Opalus 08:39, 26 January 2006 (UTC)


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US ambassador links India's civil nuclear initiative to Iran vote

January 26, 2006 The United States Ambassador to India, David Mulford, has reportedly hinted that the U.S. civil nuclear energy pact with India may face problems getting approved by Congress if India refused to vote against Iran at the upcoming meeting of the United Nations nuclear watchdog committee.

The nuclear pact was made after a July 2005 policy shift by U.S. President George W. Bush that offered cooperation in India's development of civilian atomic power industry in exchange for its support of the 's (IAEA) nonproliferation standards.

The U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack stated at a Wednesday briefing that, "The ambassador was expressing his personal opinion about what the potential political outcome might be. He was giving his personal assessment of how the Congress might react to such an action by India." McCormack added that, "We certainly would encourage and hope that they (India) vote for referral this time around."

The IAEA is scheduled to meet February 2 to discuss Iran's referral to the U.N. Security Council over its resumption of uranium enrichment. The U.S. claims that Iran's nuclear program is aimed at developing weapons, a claim that Tehran denies.

India's foreign ministry rejected any attempt to tie its stance on Iran to the deal with the U.S. on acquiring nuclear know-how.

India has previously supported the IAEA's declaration in September of 2005 that Iran had failed to comply with its international obligations.

The U.S. also opposes the negotiations, begun in 1994, on a proposed gas pipeline between India and Iran which is intended to provide India with increased energy capacities.


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Michael Jackson shops in women's clothes

January 26, 2006

Pop star Michael Jackson was caught by photographers dressed in women's clothing in a shopping mall in the Gulf state of Bahrain. Jackson was dressed in a black abaya (a traditional full-length robe), a veil covering his face, dark sunglasses and gloves. Jackson was accompanied by three young, Western-looking children, their faces covered with black veils, and an adult woman wearing an abaya over jeans, her face partly covered, and bodyguards.

After Jackson was recognized, he reportedly said "Please, No!" and the unidentified woman asked photographers to back off. Photographers continued to take pictures while mall security guards escorted Jackson and his entourage out through a back door, where they got into a white Lexus with darkened windows. A picture published by The Australian shows an adult completely covered in black, holding the hand of a young child whose face is covered. Mall officials confirmed that it was Michael Jackson.

Jackson has been a guest of the royal family since June 2004, after he was acquitted of sexually molesting young cancer patients who visited his California ranch, Neverland, in 2003.


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Rural Victorian fires worsen

January 26, 2006

Firefighters in the Australian state of Victoria continue to battle blazes across rural Victoria which threaten up to 25 communities. Major fires of concern are near the Grampians National Park, La Trobe Valley and Gippsland.

The Grampians fire has destroyed 24 homes so far. Soaring temperatures and winds up to 50 km/h have fanned the Grampians blaze.

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Copyrighted image
This article cannot use the image first included with the article. The image does not meet Wikinews fair use policy. Wikinews does not accept images from other news sources which are not freely licensed (and hosted on Commons.) The image is copyrighted, and will probably be removed from commons quite shortly for this reason; it should not have been uploaded there as it is not licensed under a free copyright license. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 07:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Delete or rewrite
I'd suggest this article be either removed or entirely rewritten. A quick glance shows that it is simply cut-and-pasted from the article in The Australian (cited at the bottom of the article). As far as I can tell, that means it's violating The Australian's copyright. I'd do a rewrite myself except I don't currently have the time. Any takers?
 * You are quite right. This was a copyvio and has been marked as such. --Chiacomo (talk) 02:55, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I started the re-write, my first WikiNews article.

 * I would have liked to add the sentence "Despite cultural differences, even in Bahrain, Michael Jackson's behavior is considered very unusual", but I don't have time to find a reference. --63.207.238.93 18:37, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

its not true
its all fake....if u really want us to belive that he was wearing womans clothes then show his face then everyone will belive u but right no belive ur big bold lie!!!!


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