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sack
Generally avoid the sense "dismiss" except in headlines (and never, there, use vulgarisms such as axed or fired.)

sacrilegious
Not sacreligious.

Saddam Hussein
Saddam after first mention, full name Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti.

Sahara
Adding 'desert' after is a pleonasm.

said
Prefer the construction 'the subject said quote' to 'quote said the subject'. It's not a rule, but it provides the reader with context for the quote before being distracted by the content of the quote.

Saint-Saëns, Camille
Metal umlauts and all, the classical composer.

saké vs sake
The Japanese term sake (酒) or o-sake (お酒) actually refers to any alcohol, while the beverage referred to in English is the Japanese rice wine called Nihonshu (日本酒), meaning "Japanese sake". (It isn't really a wine, either, but instead fermented more similarly to beer.)

It is common to use an acute accent to differentiate the Japanese term from the English word sake, but this introduces an inaccuracy compared with the Romaji spelling. Therefore prefer to italicize sake as with any foreign language word used in an English context.

salutary
Not salutory.

Salvadoran
A citizen of El Salvador, not Salvadorian or Salvadorean.

Sanaa
The capital of Yemen, صنعاء, also romanized to Sana'a, Ṣan‘ā’, but the simpler form is preferred.

sanatorium
Not sanitorium, sanitarium.

sandpit, sandbox
The first is UK English, the second is US English, for the child's play space. The first, in US English, is a pit mine for extracting fine aggregate.

sarin
Lowercase.

Sars
Initialism for the viral respiratory illness severe acute respiratory syndrome (lowercase), Sars on second mention and in headlines.

sat
Simple past tense and past participle of to sit. Do not use the construction "was sat"; instead use "was seated" or "was sitting".

Scandinavia
Denmark, Norway, and Sweden collectively. Also, the countries of the Scandinavian Peninsula: Norway, Sweden, and Finland. Cf. nordic countries

scientific names
For the Latin terms, initial cap the first word, lower case for the second (and subsequent if included). Italicise all except the most commonly known, eg Homo sapien, but Rattus rattus.

Scilly, Isles of
Never Scilly Isles.

secondly
Do not use except in direct quotes. (Also do not use firstly, thirdly, etc.)

seize
This is an exception to the i before e mnemonic.

semicolon
Not semi-colon.

The semicolon is a compromise between a full stop/period (too much) and a comma (not enough). It is used to join two or more clauses which might be complete sentences yet which can usefully be merged into a complex sentence. It is less-commonly used to separate elements of a list of three or more elements which follow a colon, and are clarified by the use of semicolons as opposed to commas.

"Example from Economist.com: They agreed on only three points: the ceasefire should be immediate; it should be internationally supervised, preferably by the AU; and a peace conference should be held, either in Geneva or in Ouagadougou."

senior
Abbreviate to Sr, not Sen or Snr.

separate
Not seperate.

Serb
Noun. Serbian, adjective. Serbs overthrew the Serbian President.

short words
Use them. Prefer brief, common words over exotic, multi-syllabic jargon and overly-precise terms. and so on...
 * about vs. approximately
 * after vs. following
 * but vs. however
 * enough vs. sufficient
 * let vs. permit
 * make vs. manufacture
 * plant vs. facility or factory
 * set up vs. establish
 * show vs. demonstrate
 * take part vs. participate
 * use vs. utilize

Simplify where possible.

shotgun wound
Rarely necessary; may be used to compress the lede. Depending upon the range and the exact variety of shot used in the cartridge, this type of weapon can be quite horrific, and over-precise detail may be considered gratuitous gore.

sic
The term sic has been normalized as an adverb in English, but it is a Latin adverb implying a longer adverbial phrase. It might be translated as "thus", "so", or "just like that." A complete formulation is sic erat scriptum which is simply translated as "thus was it written". The single word sic may be used without italics, as per foreign words suggestion.

The appearance of "[sic]" following an error in a quoted text may be seen as ridicule, especially if used more than once. Prefer a single use at the end of the quote immediately prior the ascription.

slang
Use no slang except in direct quotes. Some slang has become standardized; if you are aware it may be slang, it is slang. eg mob is actually slang, from mobile vulgus, but has become standardized and its original source nearly forgotten. A converse example is bike, which we all know is slang for bicycle, but at some point in the future may very well be completely standardized, its source relegated to antiquated status.

so
Do not use as an intensifier, eg so good.

Social titles
Honorifics or Titles of address, are those titles which prefix an individual's name in social address or correspondence. The most common of these in English-speaking regions are Mr, Mrs, Ms, Miss. An individual's preference is always preferred, just as with gendered pronouns (SG).

A comment on the use of Ms: contrary to The Economist's opinion otherwise, Ms is nearly as ugly as Mr but certainly no more so. Ms should probably be preferred to Mrs which is the abbreviation for mistress. It may be used without confusion as to whether the person in question is married using her married surname, married using her unmarried surname, unmarried, or using a pseudonym, making it far simpler to fact-check.

Religious titles, titles of  nobless  or politics, judicial titles, and similar are each contextual to the article. An article regarding a news event in Scotland would use the customary usage in that venue for, as an example, John McDonald of Someplace when referring to Laird Someplace.

Formal journalism prefers to maintain a formal tone in writing, and always refer to individuals on first introduction using the full name, second and further mentions use the honorific and surname. e.g. "Joseph Estrada, ousted President of the Philippines, lost a second bid for the office. Mr Estrada..."

sort of
Do not use as a substitute for rather before an adjective, or for something like before a noun. Restrict use to its literal sense: pea gravel is a specific sort of gravel consisting of small, rounded pebbles with very little or no sand or fine material.

spelling rules
The Wikinews:Style guide is the definitive rule. Where a given dialect of English does not have a strict rule, prefer spellings provided in this guide.

There are also several related guidances:
 * For geographic places it is always acceptable to use the local term where this is not locally controversial. An example of the exception is China, which is preferable to Republic of China or any of several variants, and likewise Taiwan for exactly the same reason. Similarly, the current local spelling of a place may be used instead of traditional transliterations, e.g. Normandie vs. Normandy.
 * In exact, direct quotes of a text with non-standard orthography the passage should be marked with sic, which see for further detail.

state
Do not use merely as a substitute for say or remark. Restrict use to the sense of express fully or clearly, as, "He refused to state his objections."

student body
Awkward construction which nearly always means "students." Use "students."

subtitles
A subtitle is separated from the title of a work by a colon. The subtitle text is down-style capitalised, as opposed to the initial caps of titles of works.

surprising
Not suprising.

suspenseful
Do not use.

swap
Not swop. Use only for approximately equal exchanges, or the jargon use of exchanging cashflow streams. Never use for organ transplants.

swath, swaths
A track cut by a mowing scythe, and by extension any broad sweep or expanse. Differs from swathe.

swathe, swathes
A bandage, or band. Differs from swath.

swat, swatting
To strike, rather different from swotting.

sweet pea
Two words, no hyphen, except when referring to Popeye's adopted daughter Swee'Pea.

swot, swotting
To study determinedly, rather different from swatting

synthesizer
The musical instrument is always spelt this way; synthesize and synthesise are otherwise regional variants.

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-t
Where possible, use the -t as opposed to the -ed suffix to form the simple past or past participle of verbs. This is controversial in some cases, believed by some (primarily North American) contributors to be archaic. In fact the -t form is far more widespread than many realize, is often more succinct, occasionally avoids confusion with an adjectival form (eg, the learned scholar learnt in her youth.) The following are especially recommended:

table
Avoid verb use; in the UK it means to bring forward or take action, while in the USA it means the opposite.

tableau
Singular. Plural form is tableaux.

table d'hôte
Although derived from French, the phrase has a specifically English sense of a complete meal for a fixed price, and so is not italicized as a foreign term.

tad
Overused, clichéd.

Tajikistan
Adjective, proper noun, and language are all Tajik.

take-off, takeoff
The noun.

take off
The verb, never hyphenated.

takeover
The noun.

take over
The verb.

take part
Avoid; prefer participate.

take the mickey, take the piss
Never use except in direct quotes (and then, never censor as take the p— or anything similar.)

Taliban
Not Taleban. A plural proper noun. (Translation of Pashto طالبان: "students" or "seekers")

talk show
Not talkshow.

tally-ho
Hyphenated; plural tally-hos.

tam o'shanter
The woolen hat named after Tam o'Shanter from the eponymous Robert Burns poem.

Tamiflu
Trade name of oseltamivir, an anti-viral drug. It is not a vaccine.

Tamil Tigers
Full formal title is Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), but Tamil Tigers is sufficient in most cases. However, do not shorten to either Tamil or Tigers alone; either might be misleading as over-broad.

Tangier
No final 's'.

Tánaiste
The vice-executive head of the Irish government, similar to Deputy Prime Minister. Note the title is not capitalizedi in Irish Gaelic, but it is capitalised when used as a proper noun in English.

Taoiseach
The executive head of the Irish government, similar to Prime Minister. Note the title is not capitalized in Irish Gaelic, but it is capitalized when used as a proper noun in English.

target
Avoid use as a verb; prefer to aim, to direct. Attempt to restrict its use to military/hostile actions

tariff
Never tarriff.

tartan
Tartan is most commonly used to describe a plaid woolen fabric, generally one whose coloring pattern is associated with a military or Scottish association. By no means are these patterns limited to such organizations, or solely associated with the British Isles; similar patterns date from the Neolithic era.

Taser
Trademark; the generic term is stun gun. Note that most countries classify this weapon as deadly

tattoos, tattooed, tattooing
Also, tattooer, tattooist, tattooment, and tattooage. But never tattoed.

taxman, taxpayer
No hyphen. Taxman is cliché, and often pejorative, therefore avoid use except in direct quotes.

Tchaikovsky
Full name Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky.

tchotchke
Clichéd loan-word from Yiddish; avoid. Plural is tchotchkes.

tea words
There are regional variations and exceptions; a private Japanese-style tea house differs from a retail teahouse, for example.

teams
Sporting teams are generally plural, no matter the actual proper noun, in most contexts. Example: The Wild are leading in their conference. The exception is in business reporting. Example: The New York Jets reported its largest annual revenues.

team-mate, team-mates
Hyphenate.

techMARK
The FTSE techMARK 100, in that capitalization, a technology index on the London stock exchange.

teen
Do not use as a substitute for the adjective teenage, teenaged.

teetotal
Not teatotal, or other variants.

Tehran
Not Teheran.

Telefónica
Full name Telefónica S.A., note acute accent.

telephone numbers
In general, there is no benefit, ever, to reporting a phone number on Wikinews.

If a phone number must be recorded, use the country code with prefixed '+', and the national phone number format which usually involves a city or area code number, sometimes a local exchange number, and finally the phone number. For example, a US phone number might appear as +1 123 456-7890. A UK number might appear as +44 0151-234 8464. Note that specific punctuation is the style used in the given country; hyphenation and parentheses are used as sparingly as possible.

television
TV is acceptable in either headlines or body text. Use full station title on first use, abbreviations are acceptable thereafter (Canadian Television Network, thereafter CTV; Australian Broadcast Company Television, ABC-TV, etc.) Where a specific broadcaster is not known, use the construction [region] television, for example, Norwegian television blah blah.

Television programme titles are italicized, as with other creative works. See.

temperatures
The preferred form, except in articles specifically about weather events in the United States, is 15C (59F), minus 20C (-4F). Note the use of "minus", not negative. Outside parens, prefer the word and not the symbol. There is no need to use ° or the word degree. Do not refer to temperatures as "hot" or as "cold"; use high or low.

Avoid the use of temperature changes; they are very prone to errors. A temperature rise of 2C is not a rise of 36F - it is actually a rise of approximately 4F.

tenpin
Not ten-pin. Tenpin bowling is the sport, while each pin is also a tenpin, particularly in the UK.

terrace house
Not terraced house.

terrorist, terrorism
In almost all cases, avoid use except in direct quotes. In particular, avoid gratuitous use as a marketing ploy by groups attempting to spin or bias the press, such as "anti-terrorism legislation" or "war on terrorism". Terms such as guerrilla or insurgent, paramilitary, armed gangsters, or similar are generally more specific and may be more applicable to a given situation.

Be aware a government or state actor may use terror as a tool to govern or exert influence, and in fact is usually better equipped and positioned to do so than any small group of opposition.

Test match
For cricket or rugby, capitalised. For cricket this is used only for games between official Test nation teams (Australia, Bangladesh, England, India, New Zealand, Pakistan, South Africa, Sri Lanka, West Indies, Zimbabwe.) For rugby it is used for matches between official national teams. Other matches are lower-cased test matches.

tête-à-tête
With circumflex and grave accents.

Texan, Texas
The adjectival form is Texas, as Texas Cowboys, Texas wildlife, while the noun for a person from Texas is Texan.

textbook
Single word, no hyphen, same as guidebook, handbook, etc.

Thaksin Shinawatra
The former Prime Minister of Thailand, Thaksin at second mention. (Note: Convicted of fraud and corruption in absentia, Thaksin is now a citizen of Montenegro.)

thallium
Highly toxic element.

thalidomide
Highly teratogenic pharmaceutical.

that
Overused, and often incorrectly used. "That" defines, "which" gives additional information.

In news writing, use "that" to connect a subordinate indicating clause, or as a determiner to indicate a specific noun. Do not use as a pronoun, adverb. Do not assume constructions "[name] said" must be followed by "that"; only use that when necessary for clarity. He said no explanation would be forthcoming sounds like an exact quote, which might be misleading. He said that no explanation would be forthcoming is less ascriptive, however She said the effort must be made is more vigorous than She said that the effort must be made.

Acceptable usage: Questionable usage: Unacceptable usage:
 * Live simply that others may simply live.
 * The route that I take is shorter.
 * She said that the parliament was united on the issue.
 * He was that ill he could not get out of bed.
 * That was an exciting event.
 * Who was that you were talking with?
 * The marathon was not that challenging.

(See also which)

the
Upper case in titles of books, poems, works of art, television or radio shows, place names. In most other contexts, lower case. Note especially, newspapers are lower case, the Washington Post, the Globe and Mail, or the Times.

the then
Do not use this construction. Use constructions such as then Prime Minister, or who was President at the time, or Mrs Clinton (then Miss Rodham). Note: no hyphen.

theatre, theater
In names, generally lowercase where appended as the Bolshoi theater, Shanghai Grand theater, upper case where preceding in names as Theatre Royal, Covent Gardens, Theatre Rhinoceros.

there is, there are
May often be omitted without any alteration to the meaning of the sentence. There are three challengers aiming to get the job vs. Three challengers aim to get the job.

theirs
Ownership is without an apostrophe.

Thermos
This is a trade mark, and needs capitalisation.

think
Avoid constructions similar to think early-Edwardian. Simplest alteration is to add the word 'of': think of early-Edwardian.

think-tank
Preferred over thinktank or think tank.

thirdly
Do not use except in direct quotes. (Also do not use firstly, secondly, etc.)

they
Must agree with subject in number.

Third World
Caps. Avoid as the term is dated and objectionable (referring to countries neither aligned with the western powers nor the eastern powers during the Cold War.) Prefer instead newly industrialized countries, developing economies, or developing nations, or related constructions.

titles of address
See Social titles

titles of works
The title of a work may be presented typographically in several ways, and on Wikinews the title of a periodical is italicized, eg The Times of London. The title of a given article in the periodical is capitalised in the style of that periodical, and italicized, eg: |Life Outside the Box, not Life outside the box (title case style, not sentence case style.) Note capitalisation styles do not necessarily apply to the subtitle, if any.

thorough
Over-used and often bombastic; avoid clichés/pleonasm use such as thorough investigation, thorough inquiry, thorough check, and thorough reform.

thoroughbred, thoroughgoing
Never hyphenated.

threefold, threepence, threesome
No hyphens.

3G
Third generation mobile telephony.

threshold
Not threshhold.

Tiananmen Square
Located within Beijing.

tidal wave
Avoid use other than related to tides. See tsunami.

time
General formats:
 * 6 a.m. not 6:00 a.m. nor ever 06:00 a.m.
 * 10:30 a.m., or whenever the minutes are known but are not 00.
 * 7 o'clock last night or in the morning, but 7 p.m. yesterday, 7 a.m. tomorrow.
 * noon, never 12 noon or 12 p.m. Likewise, midnight.

Weeks begin on Monday, but Sunday references to the following week are this week. Avoid starting anything with Last week...

Do not insist on placing a time reference at the start of the sentence or paragraph. You would not say "I this morning ate breakfast," so do not write "The Premier this morning announced..." Make the time element a natural part of your sentence. "The initiative announcement was one of several in the Premier's morning press conference."

Timór-Leste
Formerly East Timor. Full title Democratic Republic of Timór-Leste. Yes, I know en.WN uses East Timor: it is wrong in doing so.

titles of works
Book titles, poems, songs, albums, and any other artistic work are not italicised, quoted, nor in bold font. Words in a title are capitalised, excepting a, and, at, for, from, in, of, the, to; the exception to the exceptions being when in the initial position or after a colon.

titles of people
Social titles are uniquely relevant to geography. The general rules described in the Style guide serve for most situations. A planned sub-section will be SG Details-Social titles.

to be fair
The phrase is generally over-used. However, the use as subjunctive clause preceding a statement, eg To be fair, his economic policies..., must be avoided. The phrase is unnecessary, and biasing as it introduces doubt regarding earlier statements.

today
In general, avoid. See rant at Relative time.

toilet
Refers to the room, not the lavatory

tomorrow
In general, avoid. See rant at Relative time.

total
Avoid verb use; prefer add up to, amount to, similar constructions. Noun use is normal.

See also numeracy regarding creating sums.

tsunami
The preferred term for a seismic-induced sea wave. Tsunami is a term borrowed from Japanese (津波, 津浪, つなみ), and usually refers to a wave caused by tectonic or volcanic forces.

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über
As a prefix, indicating super or the penultimate, no hypen, umlauted. Lowercase except in a proper names (the Über album, Überlingen) or German-language nouns such as Übermensch, Übergang.

UEFA
The acronym for the Union of European Football Associations. Despite its use in some press, the acronym must be capitalized, not Uefa. (It is commonly pronounced /juːˈeɪfə/ ew-AY-fə.)

UK
An accepted abbreviation for the United Kingdom, without dots, but be sure it is strictly applicable.

Ukraine
Omit 'the'. Adjective Ukrainian.

Ulster
Avoid use; prefer Northern Ireland or the Province.

Uluru
Formerly known by its colonial name Ayers Rock.

uncooperative, uncoordinated
Note the lack of hyphens, see co-operative, co-ordinate.

under the hammer
Clichéd.

underwater, under water
Adjectivally, prefer the unhyphenated underwater, eg an underwater adventure. Adverbially, use the two separate words, eg they swam under water.

unique
By definition, only one. Do not use except in this specific sense. There is no such thing as more, or less, unique, nor very, nor absolutely, etc.

UNISON
The United Kingdom trade union, never capitalised as Unison.

United Kingdom
May be used as UK or U.K. at first use. Consists of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Strictly, includes England, Scotland, Wales and their islands. Does not include the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands (Bailiwick of Guernsey and Bailiwick of Jersey), or the British Overseas Territories.

United Nations
May be used as UN at first use.
 * UN Secretary General: Ban Ki Moon / 반기문 (潘基文)
 * UN General Assembly, UN Security Council, and so on, subsequently retain capitals as General Assembly, Security Council.
 * Abbreviations and acronyms, whether or not pronounceable, are in capitals. eg UNESCO and WIPO, never Unesco or Wipo.
 * Special case: UN High Commissioner for Refugees is both the person and the organisation, not Commission; UNHCR after first mention.

units
Units of measure should be International System of Units (SI) except in Burma and Liberia. Both the United States and the United Kingdom have adopted SI as their base units, and use both customary and SI, as should every article based in those countries.

US Supreme Court
Do not use. Use Supreme Court of the United States initially, Supreme Court or SCOTUS thereafter. Note also, Chief Justice John Roberts, Justice Roberts thereafter.

Uyghur
Prefer this spelling to Uighur. The Uyghur are a Turkic ethnic people and language group, with a large population residing in north-western China but also populations in more than 40 countries around the world. Therefore do not refer the Uyghur as "Chinese", rather write of Uyghur-ethnic Chinese [noun]. Note the administrative unit of China Uyghuristan.

Uzbekistan
Not Uzbeckistan. Adjective form Uzbekistani. (Note also: the Uzbek language, culture, so any person of Uzbek heritage may also be called an Uzbek)

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v
Abbreviation for 'versus', Dallas v San Francisco, Brown v Board of Education. Prefer over vs.

Val-d'Isère
With hyphen, grave accent.

Valentine's Day
With possessive apostrophe.

valley
As a formal element of a proper name, capitalised.

Valparaíso
With acute accent.

Van
In Dutch surnames, capitalised when presented as just the surname (eg Van Gogh, Van der Waals), but in other Dutch-derived settings may always be capitalised (Vietnamese Van Minh)

Vanessa-Mae
Use the stage name, noting especially the hyphen, unless you have permission of the artist and your story is not about her professional career.

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wacky
Not whacky.

Wahhabi
Prefer to Wahabi.

waive, waiver
To give up a claim or right, or reject. Not to waver indecisively.

wake
"In the wake of" is clichéd; prefer the simple and obvious such as "after" or "as a result of".

Wallace & Gromit
Always an ampersand, and not Grommit or Gromet.

Wal-Mart
Hyphenated, not Mall-Wart. Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. is the full corporate name, Walmart (one word, unhyphenated, proper noun capitalisation) is a specific trademarked brand of the company.

war
Armed conflict between two identifiable disputants. Do not use hackneyed marketing phrases such as "war on drugs" or "war on poverty"; they are POV and generally utterly disconnected from reality. Likewise, avoid euphemism such as "police action" or "peace-keeping intervention"; an invasion is an invasion, and a war is a war, no matter what the political entities prefer their actions to be called.

war crime, war dance, war games, war zone
Each two words, hyphenated adjectivally (war-zone chaos, war-games mindset, etc.)

war crimes
Capitalise only when part of a proper noun. War crimes are those actions taken by a party during the conduct of a war which violate various international agreements, in most cases whether or not any party of war is a signatory to the agreements. The USA, one of many countries to do so, claims its citizens are not liable to prosecution by the Hague International Criminal Court for war crimes and is highly opposed to the phrase being applied to any of its actions, which must not be allowed to deter accurate reporting.

warfarin
Not a trade name, so lowercase.

warhead, warhorse, warlord, warpath, warship, wartime
Single word.

warrant officer
Lower case, class of officer between non-commissioned officers (NCOs) and commissioned officers.

wars
Lists of wars is probably more extensive than you will need, and generally follows the USA POV on titling of conflicts, but does accurately state all such conflicts are wars.

Some standard titles for wars:

 * First World War (not the Great War, WWI)
 * Second World War (WWII)

Was (not Was)
US-based music group founded by David Weiss (a.k.a. David Was) and Don Fagenson (a.k.a. Don Was).

wherever, whereever, where-ever, where ever
Each and every of these writing variants is equivalent in meaning, although some are more common than others. Wherever is the most common written formation on the internet. It is, however, an attempt to express sloppy spoken English in written form, and good style would tend to avoid either of the first two variants in favour of the latter two, which more clearly express the two unique components of the expression.

while
Do not use indiscriminately in place of and or but; often in such cases be replaced with a semicolon. There are cases where it can be a virtual replacement for although, but can create ambiguity. In general, use while in its strictly literal sense, during the time that, to avoid problems.

who, whom, whomever, whomsoever
Strictly speaking, who is the subject of a verb, whom is the object of a verb. This is similar to we and us, they and them. Who asks the question. He asks whomever. Whom is often preceded by a preposition, from whom, with whom, of whom. The particular construction "who he/she said" is often incorrectly rendered "whom he/she said"; His mother, who he said would send him money, who being the subject of "would send" (he said she would send him money.)

worth while, worthwhile
Avoid use as the phrase is clichéd, but if you must the former is preferred. Do not use adjectivally; a noun is never a worth while noun (though it may be a worthy noun), but an action may be a worth while action. A novel is never worth while, but the novel may be (or may not be) worth while reading. Volunteering may be worth while, a charity cannot itself be described so. Working may be worth your while; work isn't.

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Xbox
Capitalised, trademarked.

xenophobe, xenophobia, xenophobic
Never zeno-.

Xerox
Capitalised, trademarked.

Xhosa
The Bantu people of south-eastern South Africa, or their language.

Xi'an
One of the four ancient capitals of China, crucial in WWII and the civil war in China.

Xinjiang
The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of the People's Republic of China. Prefer this spelling, or the pinyin Xīnjiāng.

Xmas, Xtian
Do not use. Although they are neutral, people of christian faiths find them offensive.

X-ray, x-ray
Prefer capitalised, always hyphenated. Originally an abbreviation of X-ray examination, it is now acceptable when verbed as well.

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-y vs. -ie
As a general rule, use -ie to create a noun form, use -y to create an adjective form. e.g. he's a beasty boy, but a cute wee beastie.

Yangtze
Not Yangtse, Yangzi.

Yardie, Yawdie
Note capitalisation. Term is strongly deprecated as it is nearly invariably misapplied; use only in direct quotes.

yakuza
Lower case, Japanese criminal organisation. Term may be singular or plural, may refer to the organisation or a member.

Yangon
Not Rangoon.

year
Use the simple number, e.g. 2011, not "the year 2011". To indicate a range of years, use 2004-11, not 2004/11 nor 2004-2011.

When referring to the academic stage, year 1, year 2, ... year 12.

yes campaign
Not Yes campaign or "yes" campaign.

yesterday
In general, avoid. See rant at Relative time.

yours
No apostrophe.

yuan
Not renminbi.

Yugoslavia
No longer exists in a formal sense. There were three different formations of Yugoslavia since 1912, the last of which chose to rename itself Serbia and Montenegro in 2003.

Yule, Yuletide
Capitalise.

yuppie
Lowercase in both noun and adjective form.

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ZANU-PF
Note capitalization, hyphenated; this is the preferred acronym for the Zimbabwe African National Union – Patriotic Front, Robert Mugabe's political party in Zimbabwe.

Zapatero, José Luis Rodríguez
Note diacritics. Spanish politician elected Prime Minister of Spain in 2004, 2008; has announced he will not run again in 2012. Note he is Mr Zapatero at second mention, prefering the matronym rather than the patronym Rodríguez.

-ze
This is a regional English spelling issue. In general, the United States uses -ze while all other English regions use -se, with two noteworthy exceptions: capsize and synthesize use -ze. Use the standard in use where the news event occurs.

zeitgeist
Note lower case.

zeugma
A rhetorical technique using a single verb or adjective to apply to two or more objects, often inappropriately yet making sense. Examples: Her courage, her eyes and his hopes.'' (Flanders and Swan)
 * We ate coffee and cake.
 * The queen takes counsel and tea. (Pope)
 * ''She lowered her standards by raising her glass,

zigzag
Not zig-zag. (From German Zickzack.)

Zine El Abidine Ben Ali
Former president of Tunisia, Ben Ali at second mention.

Zionism, Zionist
A religious belief in the right of people of Jewish faith to a homeland in Palestine. Note capitalisation. Do not use constructions as "ultra-Zionist" or "orthodox-Zionist".

zeros
Prefer over zeroes, although the latter is also correct. (See also -oes and plurals.)

złoty, zloty
The l with a stroke, ł, is the correct spelling of the Polish currency.

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It would also make faith-schools illegal. I won't cry any over that; I imagine the rest of the nation might be a little more sympathetic.


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Floods have always been part of Chinese history, and the management of floods a sign of the government's commitment to its people. The number, propensity and severity of floods in China today I would put down to deforestation and the Chinese belief that concreting over fields is progress. Kayau don't wish ill on others, if you must hate, hate the miltarists and capitalists everywhere, not the Japanese people. The government of the PRC has said that one of the greatest victims of Japanese agression were their own innocent civilans, betrayed by their own politicians and industrialists for their own vainglory and profits.


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Sidebar's "Donate" link goes to obnoxious WP-centric donation page
I've only just noticed that the "Donate" link in our sidebar goes to this page - which screams "WIKIPEDIA!" all over it. This is not appropriate for a project wishing to better distinguish itself from the encyclopedia and disperse the stereotype that it is a sub-project. As such, can we have MediaWiki:Sitesupport-url link to the project-neutral donation page? I'd have done this myself without even asking here, but forgot what the link to the other donation page was, and am not sure how to format it correctly. :[ I'm also going to be whining about this at Meta. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:16, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you surprised??? This is nothing new! Benny the mascot (talk) 14:23, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * We do choose the link. we can change it. Is DonateNonJS/en better? (I somewhat think we should save our whining for next fundraiser). Bawolff ☺☻ 15:40, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, that was the page I was searching for. I was afraid I'd have to list it as an EL, but "foundation:" does the job quite nicely, so I'll be changing this shortly. (As far as the whining is concerned, well, maybe I won't be that scathing, but I do think this is unfair and needs brought to people's attention.) Tempodivalse [talk]  16:02, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't disagree. Like really its not that hard to write donate to Wikimedia. They don't even need a separate one for each project, just one for wikipedia, and one for the rest of wikimedia. With that said we should maybe pick our battles and save it for the fundraiser. But feel free to post on meta if you want. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:07, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I've changed the link in the sidebar, and whined appropriately at Meta, and tried not to be too angry or scathing - although this is, honestly, borderline insulting to me. Please comment if you wish, more input is needed :) Tempodivalse [talk]  16:13, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

 * Oh, no. Not again. Please look on the main page talk, or archive thereof, and point them at Mike Godwin getting his head on a plate when we complained about "cultural insensitivity". --Brian McNeil / talk 15:20, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

User Wikinews reviewer
I've created a userbox for reviewers, parallel to the one for admins. Previously I'd hesitated to do so, because it felt like making too big a deal out of something that, we've been repeatedly told, is "easy come, easy go" — but lately it's occurred to me that it really should feel like a big deal, because that will help reviewers to avoid complacency about the responsibilities of review. --Pi zero (talk) 14:06, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for doing this, I definitely think that while we might have reviewer on an easy-come, easy-go basis, it is a big deal.
 * I also think that a "Reviewer's Pledge" may be in order. The right confers the ability to publish articles in Google News, as well as here. I would like to see reviewers actively working to improve their own English; both spelling and grammar. I'd also say there is a need to point new contributors at appropriate policies and advise them on getting up to a level where they would be suited to having the privilege. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:14, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Ten hours? That's ridiculous!
I just reviewed 2 articles that had been waiting for a review for 10 hours and 9 hours respectively. According to the recent changes, several reviewers were active over those 10 hours, so how on Earth can this happen? More to the point, how can we expect to be taken seriously as a news service if articles are waiting so long to be published that they cease to be news? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts?   12:16, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's about normal actually. I've seen some stories wait for a day before gettign noticed by a reviewer, even that isn't considered extreme (hey, don't look at me, I was busy the entire day yesterday. Trying to get some more time in front of the tube today. Smile.png). Tempodivalse [talk]  12:28, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

 * It happens. I was in work yesterday, so time is limited, and reviewing well takes concentration. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:42, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

 * There's a huge difference between being around and having the time to review properly. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

 * I've had articles wait for two days. Trust me -- we've improved. Benny the mascot (talk) 15:31, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This article wasn't reviewed in 5 days. --Diego Grez return fire 14:41, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It happens, far too frequently, as a matter of fact. Trouble is, reviewing takes a while, and while people may have been active, they don't necessarily have the chunk of time to devote to reviewing, only to smaller edits.  Speaking for myself, I've been known to discreetly edit while in school; at times like that, I can make quick changes (grammar fixes, delete spam, etc.), but I don't have the 15 minutes to an hour it takes to review. C628 (talk) 14:49, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * btw after 12 hours the bot on irc starts to go nuts to remind everyone. After 48 hours the bot will remind everyone once an hour. Bawolff ☺☻ 15:43, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * "5 days" isn't quite right, however. Created 27 Jan and offered for review same day; "review" replaced with clean-up tag same day; retagged for review on 30 Jan, 3 days after creation; I tagged it as stale on 31 Jan as the sources were by then 4 days old; although no new sources were added, it was offered up for review on 2 Feb, and published 3 Feb. So, for most of the time between creation and publication, the article was not sitting awaiting review, but awaiting clean-up. A duller version of events, but more accurate. Bencherlite (talk) 18:53, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

 * I notice that, per HJ's concern, there's a pile of articles needing review, and having been in that state for a while. I can't start a review; I am currently in work and can get a call at any time. That would totally derail the process. What is worse, a significant number of these articles are being heavily overloaded with sources. Please, if an article has something like 10 sources on it, the reviewer will have to read all of them. Keep sources to reasonable numbers, and to credible ones. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:25, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems there either aren't enough reviewers, or the current crop aren't able to review fast enough. If news items sit in "review" queue for more than a couple-5 hours, that seems a bit long to me. Safety Cap (talk) 21:30, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

 * That's a misordering of the priorities of the project. The high standards of the project are its reason for existing, the sine qua non from which all else must follow.  We are either giving out the reviewer bit a little too freely, or more likely we're failing to explain clearly to new reviewers the enormous responsibility that they have to enforce the standards of the project — because I see increasingly stylistically and even grammatically sloppy work getting past review (unevenly, of course), which suggests that some reviewers aren't taking the time and effort to do their job properly.  Not allowing anything to be published until and unless we have thouroughly checked that it lives up to our standards is not a luxury that we enjoy if we have time.  Timely review is a highly desirable outcome that must, by the fundaments of its nature, always take a back seat to not allowing anything to be published until and unless we have thoroughly checked that it lives up to our standards.

 * Historically, it has happened that an article goes stale, ceasing to be news so that ultimately it must be deleted, because by the time a reviewer got to it and flagged it for needed revisions, there wasn't time to make the revisions while it was still fresh. Every such incident has been a tragedy, and if it happens again (it will) it will be a tragedy then too — but tragedies on a scale that's tiny compared to the existential crisis for the entire project that can result from not properly reviewing every article.  --Pi zero (talk) 22:56, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Moving On
We need to move away from general discussion on AAA; that's not what it's there for.

Having been absent for a decent period of time and just come back to be greeted by an impending implosion on Wikinews, I thought I would just get my thoughts on the whole debacle down on screen.

Firstly, Wikinews as a community needs to get over this. No blaming other people, no mob witch hunts, no false accusations. Those users with responsibilities on the project who feel they have done wrong and not lived up to the inherent expectations that go with those privileges should be able to resign those by themselves; they know they have done wrong and if they feel they have, it's up to them what they do. Arguing on each others talk pages and infighting is helping no one; not us in the project and not those looking in from outside.

If users feel the need to apologise to Matthew, go ahead on his talk page and do it there. Bear in mind that one minute wanting him gone from the project and the next profusely apologising probably won't do wonders for others opinion of you, but that is up to you. It would be a decent gesture if an official apology was drawn up by the community-this doesn't need to be anything fancy and shouldn't take much time away from anything else, but just a short note apologising on behalf of the undersigned may be appreciated.

Knee jerk reactions rarely ever work out well and so I would advise on hastily drawing up new policies and passing them in the immediate future. Give it a month or two until everybody is able to look upon it objectively.

Now, the more pressing issue for me is the state of Wikinews as a whole, unrelated to this incident. In the past five years, yes we have got in Google News and become a much more reliable source and for that I congratulate Brian for the hard work he has done with regards to that. However, the project is not growing and we're looking crap alongside Wikipedia's reporting on the news. I know that that is Wikipedia's fault, but that's not going to change and so Wikinews must live with that.

We don't have enough editors to be able to cover all the news that outlets like the BBC or CNN cover; maybe one day, but not at this rate. In my opinion, we need to try and change the way Wikinews articles are written and why they are written. Here, each article is basically written by one person and one person only. Someone might do a bit of copyediting but that is rare. Rather than trying to compete in terms of quantity of articles, which we'll never be able to do, Wikinewsies need to focus on writing one article at a time. Each article needs to be a collaborative effort, differentiating itself from the competition by being far more in depth and neutral than anyone else. If you come on Wikinews, wanting to write an article, I would strongly advise against banging out a quick three paragraph effort. Instead, those users who are online at any one time, probably only two or three people, should be working together on one article and making that the best article.

At the moment, anyone who comes to Wikinews from the outside will find a news site not dissimilar to the BBC, but just much worse because a lot of things won't be covered. How does that convince them to come back? Instead, they should be visiting, knowing that they won't find all the news here but being able to read long, in depth news reports that actually look at all the facts. That is what journalism should be, even if that isn't obvious in today's world.

I would really appreciate people's thoughts on these suggestions. If you have a better idea on how to expand and improve Wikinews, let's here it. Now is the time with the crap articles that are being published for us to actually do something and properly put the drama behind us. Wikinews has an unlimited potential, with the ability to take news reporting out of the hands of billionaire media moguls, but it so easily risks falling over the edge of the cliff and never being seen again. We can't let that happen.   Tris   11:05, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree that a long, in-depth article is more valuable than a three paragraph brief. That may well be a better niche to carve ourselves into. However, we also need to keep article output up. Less than three articles in a day does not look too good, IMO, no matter what the quality. We need to encourage collaboration and get articles as long as possible (an approach better suited to the wiki model than what we currently have), as well as trying to discourage the current culture of article ownership. Δεν δοδγε  τ\c 12:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

South Africa World Cup
Will we write about the World Cup? If so, like Spanish Wikinews did, I propose that everyone could 'adopt' a team of their choice.

 * Chile: --Diego Grez return fire 14:17, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm Scottish, and we didn't qualify. I'm only likely to write about games if England get beaten 24-0 by some obscure country with no history of playing football. :-P --Brian McNeil / talk 15:17, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * lol --Diego Grez return fire 17:41, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

ArbCom
So basically, what we've got is that ArbCom elections are supposed to happen in July, and we've done...well, nothing. Compounding the problem is that at least two (I think that's right, BRS and Brianmc) people won't be running, which leaves us with having to elect at least two new people, and get, ideally, at least four to run so it's something of a contest. So yeah...I don't really know what's going on here, not having been around for the last election, but this has been discussed on IRC, so I figured it might be a good idea to bring it on-wiki. Thoughts, anyone? C628 (talk) 03:04, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I volunteered to serve as election judge. Thanks for reminding me! Benny the mascot (talk) 03:30, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

News from enwiki
Hi, this might interest you guys, since barnstars are also used here. Kayau (talk · contribs) 13:24, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


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Technical difficulties?
I'm using Internet Explorer 8 with the Vector skin on Wikinews. For some reason when I click on all the buttons while I am editing a page (i.e. Bold text, italic text, Wikipedia link, redirect etc.) they don't seem to work which is very irritating. Can I please get some help? Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 08:29, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Might be related to 23570. If its a different issue, you could file another bug. As a temporary thing you can disable the enhanced toolbar in your preferences, or use ''2 apostrophees for italic, 3 apos for bold . I'm assuming here you are talking about the enhanced toolbar, not the old edit bar? (I ask because i just tested the old edit bar on ie6 and noticed its broken, possibly related to the new jquery magic). Bawolff ☺☻ 13:29, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Gaps on contribs pages
Anyone else seeing gaps in contribution pages? Mine has around a dozen edits missing from the last fifty when I look at it. There's a bullet there, but no corresponding entry. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:34, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Please adjust the recent change to MediaWiki:Common.css to use span.mw-fr-reviewlink instead, to hide the [unreviewed] link but not hide whole lines in user contributions. Adrignola (talk) 22:15, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅. (moved to being on special:recentchanges only; using span.mw-fr-reviewlink doesn't work as its for both [pending edits] and for [unreviewed]). I blame the flagged revs people for using the same class in two different contexts. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:51, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Will that fix the screwup I saw trying to review someone's contributions? --Brian McNeil / talk 08:27, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Seems to have. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:00, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Template:Popular articles
Most popular articles Template:Popular articles seems to be broken - It has not updated for at least 12 hours. Mrchris (talk) 12:18, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems to have fixed itself. Bawolff ☺☻ 15:34, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

FlaggedRevs update on June 14
Hi everyone! As part of the Pending Changes feature rollout on en.wikipedia.org on 2010-06-14, we'll need to update the implementation of FlaggedRevs plugin that is in use on this wiki. To be clear, we're not altering this wiki's configuration of FlaggedRevs, merely updating the code that is shared between this site's Flagged Revisions configuration and the new configuration that we're implementing on en.wikipedia.org. We don't anticipate any problems or any reduction in functionality, but as with any new software, there may be unanticipated bugs. If you discover any problems or have further concerns, please report them at the Pending Changes issue page. Thanks! -- RobLa (talk) 18:00, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * So far

Looks good so far. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:07, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * On the rc [unreviewed page] was added after any page that was not reviewed. This is now being supressed via css.
 * On the rc, the (review) link got changed to [pending edits]. I changed it back.

 * some of the classes seem to be used in two different contexts, see below. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:59, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

 * We seem to have lost auto-sight. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 08:59, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

 * There was consensus to turn that off. Bots still have it. Policy pages are yet to be updated. See my proposal, which has a long-winded rant attached. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:03, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I noticed; Rockerball didn't. Had to sight updates to the leads earlier. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:42, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh. Fantastic.  (rest of comment stricken for profuse swearing) -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 19:50, 20 June 2010 (UTC)


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Any anon who makes a change to a published article gets sent here. We should probably spruce up the page a bit, maybe explain the archive policy. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:35, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

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Ailing social networking website MySpace loses co-president after four months

June 21, 2010 , the parent company of MySpace, announced Friday that Co-President has decided to leave the  because he wishes to return to his home city of New York. MySpace is headquartered in, California.

MySpace was founded in 2003 by and  and purchased for $580 million by News Corps. at the height of its popularity in 2005. In recent years, however, MySpace has been losing out in monthly unique visitors to similar sites such as Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. According to, an Internet marketing research company that tracks website traffic, Facebook attracted 519 million unique visitors in April of this year, and MySpace just 111 million visitors. In response, MySpace has been recently shifting its focus towards music, games, and videos, and plans to continue doing the same in the near future.

Meanwhile, another failing social network, Bebo, was sold for less than $10 million by AOL to hedge fund firm this week. AOL acquired Bebo for $850 million in 2008. MySpace's reduced traffic and the departure of another executive have led industry insiders to draw comparisons between the two sites.

In April 2009, DeWolfe stepped down as MySpace's Chief Executive Office (CEO). He was replaced by former Facebook Chief Revenue Officer, but Natta held on to that position for just nine months. In February 2010, Hirschhorn was promoted from his position as Chief Product Officer along with Chief Operating Officer to the position of co-president. The departure of Hurschhorn leaves Jones to continue on as sole president. MySpace have said they do not intend on replacing Hirschhorn.


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Rest in peace, Saramago.


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Very balanced article. Would like to see more about Scientology here, too. In fact, the thing I love about Wikinews is the references/sources, something that no other news site does..


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Knee-jerk Murdoch-run, Jebus-loving, press whipping them up into a frenzy?

Praise the Lard!

Wait, ... Wasn't that Roy Hattersly's stand-in on Have I Got News For You?


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Thank you!

Cirt's article; but, I really appreciate someone picking out points I think are really important in relation to how the project handles news coverage.


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Sweden's Crown Princess marries long-time boyfriend

June 21, 2010

Sweden's first royal wedding since 1976 took place Saturday when, 32, married her long-time boyfriend and former personal trainer, , 36. The ceremony took place at.

Over 1,200 guests, including many rulers, politicians, royals and other dignitaries from across the world, attended the wedding, which cost an estimated 20 million. Victoria wore a wedding dress with five-metre long train designed by. She wore the same crown that her mother,, wore on her wedding day 34 years previously, also on June 19. Victoria's father,, walked Victoria down the aisle, which was deemed untraditional by many. In Sweden, the bride and groom usually walk down the aisle together, emphasising the country's views on equality. Victoria met with Daniel half-way to the altar, where they exchanged brief kisses, and, to the sounds of the wedding march, made their way to the the silver altar. She was followed by ten bridesmaids. The couple both had tears in their eyes as they said their vows, and apart from fumbling when they exchanged rings, the ceremony went smoothly.

Following the ceremony, the couple headed a fast-paced procession through central Stockholm on a horse-drawn carriage, flanked by police and security. Up to 500,000 people are thought to have lined the streets. They then boarded the Vasaorden, the same royal barge Victoria's parents used in their wedding, and traveled through Stockholm's waters, accompanied by flyover of 18 fighter jets near the end of the procession. A wedding banquet followed in the in the Hall of State of the.

Controversy has surrounded the engagement and wedding between the Crown Princess and Westling, a "commoner". Victoria met Westling as she was recovering from in 2002. He owned a chain of gymnasiums and was brought in to help bring Victoria back to full health. Westling was raised in a middle-class family in, in central Sweden. His father managed a social services centre, and his mother worked in a post office. When the relationship was made public, Westling was mocked as an outsider and the king was reportedly horrified at the thought of his daughter marrying a "commoner", even though he did so when he married Silvia. Last year, Westling underwent transplant surgery for a congenital kidney disorder. The Swedish public have been assured that he will be able to have children and that his illness will not be passed on to his offspring.

Westling underwent years of training to prepare for his new role in the royal family, including lessons in, elocution, and multi-lingual small talk; and a makeover that saw his hair being cropped short, and his plain-looking glasses and clothes being replaced by designer-wear.

Upon marrying the Crown Princess, Westling took his wife's ducal title and is granted the style "His Royal Highness". He is now known as HRH Prince Daniel, Duke of Västergötland. He also has his own coat-of-arms and monogram. When Victoria assumes the throne and becomes Queen, Daniel will not become King, but assume a supportive role, similar to that of, the husband of the United Kingdom's Queen Elizabeth II.


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Militant leader hanged by Iran

June 21, 2010Iran hanged the leader of the militant group Jundallah,, yesterday, after he was found guilty of nearly 80 criminal charges.

Rigi was the founder and leader of Jundallah, which have carried out numerous attacks in Iran since 2003, killing 154 people and injuring 320 more. Charges against him numbered 79, including armed robbery, contacting intelligence agents from the United States, NATO, and Israel, kidnapping, and the founding of a terrorist group, which the Iranian government classified Jundallah as.

Jundallah says its attacks are intended to protest the alleged discrimination of Sunni Muslims in Iran, whose government is largely Shi'ite. Although Iran has claimed that the group has the backing of the United States, and a video of Rigi while in custody shows him admitting the same, the US has denied that it has any ties to the group. Both the United Kingdom and Pakistan are also claimed to have ties to the group by Tehran; both governments deny the allegations.

According to Iranian authorities, Rigi was arrested while traveling from Dubai to Kyrgyzstan, and state TV ran a video of Rigi being taken from a plane by men in masks.

Rigi was apparently hanged in in Tehran early on Sunday, according to state media. His hanging is the latest in a string of executions of Jundallah members by the Iranian government.

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I shouldn't have to repeat myself, but don't put words in my mouth, that's just immature. You take what I write, and then pretend to be quoting me with an extreme viewpoint. I said innocent people will get killed in the crossfire if they are supporting hostile combatants. I did not say "all Palestinians" at any point in my post. I do believe however that a good potion of them are not taking the necessary steps to prevent this violence. Israel is a state that has learned to combat violence with greater violence, and collateral damage is a sad fact of war.

People are so quick to ignore history and jump on the bandwagon when the world starts to criticize Israel. It sure sounds convincing to call the blockade collective punishment, but it serves a specific purpose, to prevent more weapons from entering Gaza. The decrease in rocket attacks clearly demonstrates its effectiveness (btw there are 28 deaths attributed to rocket attacks, the above statistic of 10 is just an out-of-the-ass number). An inconvenient side-effect is that much of the unregulated supply routes for other goods have also been blocked. Israel is taking the extreme action, but only because militant groups were exploiting the lack of regulation before.

It was not long ago that Israeli's were living in the west bank and gaza, but it was too dangerous, and we had to pull out. That is the true cause of all of this, the fact that there is a violent group of people living in these areas, partially supported by the civilian population. If those people were instead working to remove these violent people, then this whole problem would be over much faster. I cannot imagine any response that Israel could use to have the same effect. Lifting the blockade would allow needed supplies into Gaza, but at the same time, it is an absolute certainty that weapons and possibly more militants will also exploit this to make the area more dangerous once again, and there will be another thing like Operation Cast Lead to stop the problem.

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June 22, 2010 Less than two weeks after two Australian soldiers died in the explosion of a roadside bomb, three more Diggers and a US soldier were killed early yesterday morning in a helicopter crash in southern Afghanistan, while seven other soldiers are being treated for injuries.

Angus Houston said in a statement this afternoon that two of the crash survivors are in a serious condition and will be moved with the other survivors to the US military hospital in.

The crash occurred at 03:39 yesterday local time (23:09 on Sunday, ) in the north of. Although the cause is still unknown, Houston said "the terrain is rugged, the helicopters are often heavily loaded, it’s at high altitude and it was three o’clock in the morning. All of these factors will no doubt be considered". Houston confirmed that enemy fire was not to blame for the crash.

These new casualties in the Afghan War brings Australia's death toll to sixteen, while that of the US comes to 1128 since the war began in 2001.

Despite this, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, remains firm on the issue: "We work beside our allies [...] to avoid Afghanistan once again becoming a breeding ground for terrorists who can then strike at innocent Australians both at home and abroad" and continued by saying that all Australians owe the soldiers a debt of gratitude for making the ultimate sacrifice in the line of duty.

Although the names of the soldiers have yet to be released, the tragedy follows last week's casualties where Australian combat engineers Darren Smith, age 26, and Jacob Moerland, age 21, were killed along side their bomb sniffer dog, Herbie in a roadside blast.


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Talk:Four coalition soldiers die in Kandahar helicopter crash

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This article is timely, newsworthy and quite well written but it needs a little copy-editing, so it is unlikely to pass a review yet. As I don't have time to work on it myself today, I changed the tag.

 * 1) The use of slang (Diggers) in the headline and the prose seems a bit awkward
 * 2) The punctuation is a little untidy
 * 3) We should include the "when" of who/what/where/when/(why,how) in a lead paragraph (Style_guide)

--InfantGorilla (talk) 10:04, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

The term "Digger(s)" is a sacred one to Australians and New Zealanders - to remove all reference of it could annoy some people - proceed at your own peril =D H.R.H Sovereign King Bradley The Great, Autocrat of All Australia talk  10:08, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

 * The Age piece doesn't use the word. However I didn't suggest removing it, only making its inclusion less clumsy.  As you know, we aim to write for a worldwide audience. --InfantGorilla (talk) 10:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

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According to the BBC, one US soldier also died. Is this correct? --InfantGorilla (talk) 10:15, 21 June 2010 (UTC) According to NATO and The AP associated Press- yes this is true. But the australian sources skim over this - how strange... H.R.H Sovereign King Bradley The Great, Autocrat of All Australia talk  10:18, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. The Age, like some other sources, says "Another ISAF soldier - from another country - was also killed" so I think only the nationality is not totally clear.

Another fact to consider including: the ADF press release rules out enemy action. http://www.defence.gov.au/defencenews/stories/2010/Jun/0621.htm

--InfantGorilla (talk) 10:24, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

NEATO...i'LL ADD ALL THAT, btw how do you change the headline name? H.R.H Sovereign King Bradley The Great, Autocrat of All Australia talk  10:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


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Minor correction needed
Please change "crown" as in she wore the same crown, to diadem, which is a special european style crown. I'd do it but I'm on my phone and the page is too big to edit. Thank you, M.E. 66.174.93.44 (talk) 16:13, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

 * I disagree. A wikilink is not sufficient to define a term that will not be familiar to many readers. --InfantGorilla (talk) 16:40, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, that's fine. There is one more error. My wife pointed out I accidentally wrote Queen Silvia's wedding was on 19 July, when of course it should say June. Ty, M.E. 69.78.133.84 (talk) 16:47, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

 * I disagree with your disagreement. Wikinews is online paper which has access to the powers of hyperlinks. If a reader doesn't know what a diadem is, simply link to the wikipedia page! It gives a better description of what actually happened, and those who don't know what a diadem is can quickly look it up, learning something new (which I'm sure half the point of reading the news is: learning something new). Dumbing down wikinews is simply wrong. 213.100.136.79 (talk) 08:44, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

 * I love hyperlinks, but in this case I am with the original author.
 * I found the Wikipedia article confusing and unhelpful: it left me with the impression that a diadem was a band, a ribbon, or perhaps similar to a circlet. So I still don't know what the word tells us about the crown used at the wedding: does it refer to its heritage, its geometry, or something else?  Therefore I have to plead "dumb", and I think that when writing for a general audience, we need to explain technical or cultural terms in the actual article, without relying on hyperlinks.  In my view, hyperlinks in news are for further research, not to explain unusual words.
 * I think this hyperlink might be more suitable:
 * ''She wore the same crown that her mother, Queen Silvia, wore on her wedding day 34 years previously, also on 19 June.
 * If you agree, then add it to the article.
 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 14:01, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

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WTF! Commoner!? I was reading in the article that due sweden's equality issues the bride and the groom walk down the isle together...but it's okay to call a partner of non-royal blood a "commoner"... change this - scratch that I just did! H.R.H Sovereign King Bradley The Great, Autocrat of All Australia talk  03:39, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Well obviously even though Sweden would like to think it's a forward-thinking, equality-for-all country, it's apparent that it isn't. The sources used all say "commoner" and the Swedish-language papers said the same thing. So I'm kinda pissed that you moved the article, and now it needs moving again because you used the wrong title case. "Long-Term Boyfriend" should be lower case. So well done. Worried about being offensive, really.. 9_9 --M.E. 66.174.93.56 (talk) 03:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think commoner is offensive - its the commonly used term for people not of royal blood. (With that said I think the current title is also fine, but perhaps should be long-term not long-time, and should be lowercase). Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Commoner is not offensive. It's that simple. I'd find a better insult if I was trying; one that was actually, you know, insulting. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 06:37, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

The point of the matter is, "commoner" is a subjective term and wikinews only deals with facts...with the facts being she married her long-term boyfriend. H.R.H Sovereign King Bradley The Great, Autocrat of All Australia talk  23:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Our headline should reflect the information that most makes it news. Since "non-royal" is the news, but is not really a noun, I think "commoner" does the job.  Is "commoner" an insult in Australia?  It isn't in Europe.
 * "... marries long-time boyfriend" is like the old saw : "Dog bites man"
 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 14:01, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, but yes "commoner" is a derogatory term in Australia for future notice...It wouldn't be insulting in Europe, cause they are all so common =P I joke I joke...but if you are offended by that...consider my point made H.R.H Sovereign King Bradley The Great, Autocrat of All Australia talk

P.S whats so bland about royalty marrying a long-time boyfriend, especially considering they were so out and proud about it...usually its kept all hush hush. And I completely agree...dog bites man is so YAWN especially for the man the dog bit... H.R.H Sovereign King Bradley The Great, Autocrat of All Australia talk  11:35, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

 * "common" is insulting in UK/Ireland, except in "common people", but "commoner" is mere concession to class system of royal/aristocrat/everyone else.  It is too late to change the headline now.  "Whirlwind romance, shotgun wedding, secret affair": are all good headlines.  I don't think any of the recent UK/Australian long term royal romances were kept secret.  I don't normally read about other royal families.  --InfantGorilla (talk) 14:00, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * See definitions 1 and 2 (noun) of commoner. A commoner means that the person holds neither title nor rank. A someone born in the UK (where the adjective common has a derogatory sense), the usage of commoner is perfectly acceptable to describe someone who is not born of nobility. --Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 17:17, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I am so glad you all went to such great lengths to tell me why "I" (and most Australians) dont find it offensive...thank god there are people like you in the world telling everyone else what's offensive and what's not...H.R.H Sovereign King Bradley The Great, Autocrat of All Australia talk  23:53, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

please add "Royalty" category
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Classism Alive and Well
Ah yes, it seems there is controversy regarding a princess marrying a 'commoner'. Which is evidence that Classism is alive and well in Sweden. How very uncivilized for this age. I thought we got rid of this sort of thinking when we crawled through the civil rights era. Well, at least in America we did, it seems. ArchabacteriaNematoda (talk) 17:30, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hah! You got rid of nobility and aristocratic classism, yes, but classism between the rich and the poor?  Don't tell me a lot of big-time lawyers or entrepreneurs and their well-off families wouldn't mind sitting down at a restaurant table together with strangers struggling to put food on their table.  There are arrogant jerks, and nice people, everywhere.

Too right. Still, I think the princess can marry whoever she bloody well wants. ArchabacteriaNematoda (talk) 22:02, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


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June 21, 2010 The wreckage of an aircraft carrying eleven mining executives from Australia has been found in Cameroon, according to the country's information minister.

According to the official, Issa Tchiroma Bakary, either nine or ten bodies have been recovered from the aircraft, which was reported missing on Saturday and apparently crashed in the Congo. Bakary said that "[t]he wreckage has been found in Congo. Unfortunately there were no survivors."

The plane, a, was traveling from Cameroon to Congo, where Sundance Resources, an Australian mining company whose entire board of directors was on the plane, is trying to develop an iron ore mine. Contact with the plane was lost around an hour after it took off.

In addition to six Australians, including one of the country's richest men,, there were two British, two French, and one US citizen on board the plane. The search for the downed plane had involved Cameroon, Australia, the United States, and Canada, and had included four aircraft, although operations had been disrupted by fog.

Sundance said that they had halted all African operations in the wake of the crash, which led to the cessation of trading the company's shares and the appointment of an acting CEO, the firm's Chief Financial Officer Peter Canterbury. Another Sundance official said that although significant, the crash would not "mortally wound" the company.