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Swine flu: recent developments worldwide

June 6, 2009

The has now spread to 66 different countries throughout the globe, with at least 19,273 confirmed cases and 117 deaths having been reported according to the latest World Health Organisation (WHO) tally. A majority of the cases were reported by the United States, which now has at least 10,053 confirmed infections from the disease.

Egypt, Bulgaria, and Nicaragua each reported their first case, while Lebanon reported three.

The WHO's pandemic alert level is at the fifth level, on a scale of one to six. In order for a transition for the highest level to be made, the organisation must confirm a significant spread of swine flu in at least two continents. The WHO has recently been under pressure to include the severity of a disease spread to its criteria, not just the geographical spread of a virus. The WHO said that its committee had agreed that a statement on the strength of an epidemic should be made in any future pandemic declarations.

"There was a broad consensus on the importance of including information on severity in future announcements," the WHO said in a statement.

Australia
Australian health minister said that there are currently 878 confirmed cases of the influenza in Australia. The bulk of the cases have been in the state of Victoria, which has 752 infected persons. New South Wales is the second, with 74 infections.

Roxon predicted that the swine flu will be a problem in the next two winters, despite efforts to curb its spread.

"I would have thought we're not at the halfway point, given that we still don't have an extensive spread in Australia," Roxon said. "We are only part way, but closer, to having a vaccine and we are still prepared to put all our efforts into containing the disease as much as possible."

Roxon said that Australia's hospitals will start taking samples from people infected with the flu to monitor its spread. She said that "it gives us the tools to monitor how much of the flu in the coming weeks is seasonal flu, how much is actually this H1N1 strain, and we will simply have to keep monitoring that over the coming months." Roxon added that "this is a time to be cautious, where the combination of the flus might turn it into something much less virulent or something more virulent."

Meanwhile, Singapore has urged its residents not to travel to Victoria. A warning at the government website said that Melbourne and Victoria were affected by the disease, and advised any Singapore residents returning from those areas to keep an eye on their health for swine flu symptoms.

Brazil
The health ministry of Brazil announced on Tuesday that the number of infected people in the country has been increased to 23 after two new cases were confirmed. 25 people are also suspected to be infected.

The ministry said that both new patients are in stable condition, and had both been infected after traveling to the U.S.

Of Brazil's H1N1 cases, nine are in, seven in , four in , and one apiece in , , and. Seven of the cases had been transmitted domestically.

Canada
1,795 laboratory-confirmed cases of H1N1 were reported in three territories and nine provinces of Canada as of Wednesday. The federal health minister,, pledged on Friday to give CA$10.8 million to help fight the flu. The Canadian government is creating a new swine flu network to help connect health officials with researchers.

"These projects will have huge benefits [...] They will help public health officials across Canada in their efforts to plan, design and evaluate interventions to control the spread of the virus and protect the health of Canadians," Aglukkaq said.

Chile
Almost four hundred swine flu cases in the South American country of Chile have been reported, local health officials say.

The Institute of Public Health in Santiago reported that 393 cases were confirmed in the country in a statement on its website. The institute said that while 98% of cases were only "mild", about two percent of all infections were fatal.

Swine flu cases in Chile have increased twofold within the last seven days.

New Zealand
New Zealand now has eleven confirmed cases of the swine flu. A further 63 are in quarantine and have been prescribed the antiviral drug (which goes by the trade name of Tamiflu).

Philippines
Health officials from the Philippines said that seven more people tested positive for the influenza on Thursday, increasing the number of confirmed infections from the disease in the country to 29. There are a further 47 laboratory results pending confirmation.

Francisco Duque, the Philippine's health secretary, said six of the cases were in Filipinos who had returned from visits to the U.S.

"With further characterization of the virus in our local cases, if we see that A/H1N1 poses no severe threat and is self-limited in most cases, we may be seeing a shift in our control strategy to outpatient and home management of patients showing only mild symptoms," Duque said.

Russia
Russia has reported its first case of the flu, in an unidentified 28-year-old man who had recently been in New York. The man had initially passed a medical check when he arrived at Moscow's last Monday, but began to feel ill two days later and was hospitalised the same day. It is currently uncertain how he obtained the virus.

Russian officials are currently screening flights that have departed from "countries of concern", including all countries in the Americas, as well as Japan and Spain. People arriving on flights from such countries have their temperatures checked by remote sensors, and those with high temperatures are hospitalised and tested for the H1N1 virus. Over a score of people so far have been identified as having symptoms of the disease, but all of them were cleared after later tests.

Turkey
Turkey's first case happened on May 16 when a passenger flying from United States to Iraq through a connected flight over Turkey entered to İstanbul Atatürk International Airport. With the latest arrival of 2 Turkish passengers from New York and Toronto on June 3, the number of confirmed cases increased to 10.

The Turkish Ministry of Health reported that no infections related for human-to-human transfer of the virus are observed until now and the hospitalized cases are treated in a dedicated hospital in Istanbul.

United Kingdom
486 people have been confirmed as infected with the H1N1 virus in the United Kingdom. 27 new cases in England were confirmed recently. Five people in the have been hospitalised. Three of them are in intensive care, although one man recently improved and was moved into to high dependency. A 44-year-old woman, who is said to have had underlying health conditions, is also in high dependency, at the Royal Alexandra Hospital, in Paisley.

Scotland is the part of the UK with the highest ratio of affected people to population.

United States
The U.S. is the country with the highest number of confirmed swine flu infections. The U.S. reported that at least 27 people have died from the virus, and a further 13,271 cases have been reported throughout the country. All fifty states, as well as two territories, have reported cases.

The state of Wisconsin has been the worst hit, with 2,217 infections, as well as three additional suspected cases.

"What is unusual today is not that there has been a death from influenza. Over 37,000 people die in the United States each year of seasonal influenza, and the rates of death and illness from this novel H1N1 strain does not appear to be radically different," said Seth Foldy, a Wisconsin health official. "What is unusual this year is that influenza continues to be widely circulating in Wisconsin and many, many other states this late in the year."

Vietnam
Vietnam's fourth swine flu infection was confirmed on Thursday, in a six-year-old girl in Vietnam's capital of, a local media report said. The child is currently receiving treatment. All of the infected patients had recently traveled to the United States.


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I got fired from my job a few months ago, and cannot find another one. America is cultivating a new class of people with nothing to lose. I'd better start locking my doors. I would like to thank the free market economists who got jobs at the zoo and opened up all the lion cages. Poor monkeys... —66.63.103.166 (talk) 21:25, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

 * Would you like the "green jobs" that Spain has attempted and has now achieved an unemployment rate of greater than 17%? 68.112.21.102 (talk) 03:44, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I just love how they say the unemployment rate should reach 10% "by the end of the year." By the end of the summer, more like. And the job market and the economy is "improving" despite the rate jumping by half a percent in one month? Clearly it's improving for the people who make six figures and never stopped during this recession. Mike Halterman (talk) 21:56, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Face it america you are a very poor nation who can't get over how far you have fallen.

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I mean i'm 15 but its gonna suck if I can't get a job when I get older

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Comments:Palestinian protester killed by Israeli soldiers

Commence shitstorm.
 * lol Soapy (talk) 16:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

DEATH TO ISRAEL

It is unfortunate how this policy is allowed to continue. Countries supporting Israel should (at the very least) stop selling them weapons if their gov't still thinks they have a right to kill civilians and invade other sovereign countries. -Alemaco (talk) 01:44, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Implying that Palestine is a sovereign country, besides the point, they attacks soldiers, they got what was comming to them.--CnrFallon (talk) 02:13, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand. Palestinians do not deserve a country. They are Muslims, they are black and stand in the way of the wrong god. It doesn't matter the land now Israel occupies belonged to Palestine. And then once you've shot children and pregnant women, killing protesters is exceedingly easy. Comments like yours make me understand why Iran is trying to build nukes. -Alemaco (talk) 09:19, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you object to Israel's policies, try and do your bit - like don't buy their oranges. Ever wonder why there are no Palestinian oranges? Simple, they've been corralled into plots of land where there isn't really enough water to simply exist. Stark contrast: Israelis have swimming pools and sprinklers on the lawn. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:21, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've boycotted Israeli products for years. That's good for my conscience but completely useless as long as the US and Europe support them uncritically and sell them weapons like they were toys. -Alemaco (talk) 11:47, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * @CnrFallon: "Attack" soldiers? They fucking threw rocks.  They would have got what was coming to them if the soldiers had beat their asses with truncheons or fists; that would made sense and been a sane response.  You don't earn death except by trying to deal it out.  This was just some israeli dick deciding he was going to play Counter Strike with the protesters.
 * Consider it from a POV of an Israeli soldier. An angry Palestinian chanting "death to Israel" tries to throw something at him - is it a rock? or is it a primed hand grenade? Is it something you want to find out by waiting and seeing if it blows your head off or not? 207.216.69.186 (talk) 01:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well Alemaco. You should get off the internet since the Jews/Israel have a hand in making it.--66.229.17.49 (talk) 23:37, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Any death to X comments seems totally immoral and innapropriate. How about death to nobody. --Z E U S (talk) 15:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Palestinians do not deserve a country, because their long-term goal is complete eradication of Israel. Every time Israel gave them more independence, and pulled out troops, the result was more missiles shot from Palestinian territories into Israeli cities. The only way Palestinians and their backers will be happy is when Israel is entirely overrun by Arabs, and Jews are expulsed and/or wiped out. For God's sake, PLO uses "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" as factual in their propaganda - and you want to reason with those people? 207.216.69.186 (talk) 01:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

The Israelis should die in a motherfucking hole where they belong

Israel never annexed the West Bank. The separation barrier does not surround many Palestinian cities. Get your facts straight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.172.84.60 (talk) 08:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


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In Belgium
In Belgium the crazy frog has the nickname "Albert" - because of a resemblance to the country's king. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


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24 error messages sent by Flight 447

June 6, 2009

French authorities have today revealed that Air France Flight 447 sent 24 error messages shortly before the plane disappeared during the flight between Rio de Janeiro and Paris with 228 people on board. They also said that the plane's auto-pilot was not active, although they say that from the error messages it is impossible to determine the reason for it being inactive. The crash is said to be the world's worst aviation disaster since 2001.

Officials have still not determined the reason for the flight's disappearance or located the wreckage of the plane, but have said that it was flying through an area of "powerful cumulo-nimbus" clouds. The authorities continued saying, "these are found frequently in this area and in normal climactic [sic] conditions". However other meteorologists said the jet was entering a zone with unusual storms and 100mph updrafts which could have formed a vacuum, sucking water up from the ocean.

Fourteen of the error messages sent by the system were done so within a period of one minute, 2:10 a.m. – 2:11 a.m. UTC. It is thought that some of the error messages are related to the flight speed and controls related to auto thrust. Paul-Louis Arslanian, director of the French air accident investigation agency, said that the error messages indicated systems had shut down one after another. He also confirmed that the plane in question had encountered difficulties with measuring its speed and that Airbus was currently completing "a programme of replacement, of improvement".

Airbus and Arslanian insist that planes are still safe, however Airbus have since re-sent information regarding difficulties with calculating speed and confirming their advice in such situations.

Previous announcements by the Brazilian air force that they had successfully located part of the wreckage of flight 447 have turned out to be false after ships recovered unrelated debris from the sea. After recovering debris from the sea, including a cargo pallet and two buoys, Brigadier Ramon Cardoso, the director of Brazilian air traffic control said, "[U]p to now, no material from the plane has been recovered."

He continued, "We confirm that the pallet found is not part of the debris of the plane. It's a pallet that was in the area, but considered more to be trash. The pallet was made of wood, and the Air France Airbus A330 did not have any wooden pallets on board. That's how we can confirm that the pallet isn't part of the remains of the aircraft". It is thought the pallet came from a passing ship which is also being blamed as to the reason for the oil slick spotted in the area.

David Learmount, operations and safety editor of Flight International magazine, said: "The fact that the autopilot was not working is not the cause of this accident", continuing by saying it is "not at all unusual" for the autopilot to cut out, alerting the pilots with a loud warning, adding "it's not the cause, it's the symptom" of the accident.

He also said that it was "designed to cut out at any time that it receives conflicting messages, which we know it was" and that "It's designed to cut out rather than controlling the airplane in an unsafe way - it's not an intelligent system, it doesn't know which of the data are correct." Rescuers have long since given up on attempting to find any survivors instead now trying to locate and recover the wreckage of the flight and more importantly the flight data recorders, without which they say they may never know what happened to the flight. The process of recovery is expected to be difficult with the seabed reaching depths of 3,000 to 4,000 meters. Both American and French specialist equipment has been sent to the area with the aim of recovering the recorders, however French officials say that the locator beacons attached to the boxes could possibly have become detached by the force of the impact.

Speculation has been rife as to the thought cause of the flights disappearance, ranging from a direct lightning strike to weather in the area, however recently a Spanish pilot has said, via his airline Air Comet, that on a flight in the area he saw an "intense flash of white light". The report, initially released by the Spanish newspaper El Mundo and then confirmed by AFP also said a co-pilot and passenger also saw the bright light.

"Suddenly, we saw in the distance a strong and intense flash of white light, which followed a descending and vertical trajectory and which broke up in six seconds" the unidentified captain said.

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I dont do much on wikinews other than read and comment... Am more of a wikipedian/wikimedian :-P, that too a very baby one...

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Thanks for experimenting with Wikinews. Your test worked, and has now been reverted or removed. Please use Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles may disrupt the site's working and will be reverted quickly. Thank you, Tempodivalse [talk]  15:18, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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Comments:24 error messages sent by Flight 447

Facts: Weather along route - normal nothing unusual.

Cause of crash - Total systems electrical failure over 1-2 minute span.

Interesting Co-incidence - Happened over deepest oceanic part of route.

Conclusion: Timed NNEMP device (Non-Nuclear Electro-Magnetic Pulse) in baggage department took plane down (Baggage cabin sits directly adjacent to critical power wiring/routing trays for all systems of the aircraft). EMP would cause sporadic failure of electrical systems, as damaged power supply parts began failing on all the sub-systems. (NNEMP Devices would only be powerfull enough to damage parts in power supplies - Leading to the eventual failure of the individual power supplies, and systems, in short notice)

Let all the conspiracy nuts and various Gov't secret service agencies fight over the who and why, but that's what it looks like to me (a 30 yr Electrical/Systems Engineer)

 * You're kidding, right? There's no evidence to suggest that.  It's pure speculation. Dave420 (talk) 13:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Fishy
I still think there is a possibility that there was some foul play here, maybe a bomb. There have been too many 'conveniences/coincidences' in this incident. Just because no one or group claimed responsibility for the act, doesn't mean it wasn't some crazed individual. I find it quite interesting though, that the computer sent in one instance, 14 messages in a one minute period. Sounds like a lot. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 15:56, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe this was alien abduction :)
 * It's happened before: http://x-files.wikia.com/wiki/Tempus_Fugit 24.99.209.126 (talk) 16:55, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Bomb? Don't be silly. Probably the closest the flight got to a bomb was a German tourist in first class nuking the toilet. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:42, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

My initial concern was something to do with fly-by-wire, but I'm now leaning more towards a combination of spatial disorientation and pitot-static failure. The pitot tubes could be blocked by icing, which I understand is thought to have been present in that storm. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Separation of tail structure because of inferior engineering?
Because the tail structure was found thirty miles from the main debris field, we can assume based on empirical evidence that the tail structure separated from the aircraft during inordinate turbulence.

Why did the whole tail structure separate?? Because of structural design deficiency. Indeed, Boeing aircraft uses machined aluminum for all hinges and tail/fuselage structural attachment fittings. However, Airbus uses less-expensive and obviously inferior rolled-composite material with aluminum rod ends that absolutely cannot tolerate the tail section stress loads that Flight 447 (and AA Flight 587 over NYC November 12, 2001) was subjected to over its Atlantic Ocean flight path. And thus the reason Boeing and Lockheed transport aircraft have never lost whole tail sections in turbulent flight.

Consequently, it appears the claim of non-heating pitot tubes as the cause of the in-flight catastrophic break-up is just a distraction from Airbus's inferior structure design.

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Hi and welcome to Wikinews. Thanks for adding the bit about climactic vs. climatic. Unfortunately, climactic is what the source was quoted as saying and we can not changed what was said. If you find that the source actually said climatic, please make a note on the article page at Talk:24_error_messages_sent_by_Flight_447. Thanks and have a great day. Calebrw (talk) 16:51, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

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Possible bodies, wreckage from Air France Flight 447 found

June 6, 2009

The Brazilian Air Force has located bodies and wreckage of  in the. At least two bodies have been recovered so far.

Brazilian Air Force Colonel Jorge Amaral confirmed that search teams had recovered 2 male bodies and wreckage including a seat, briefcase, oxygen mask, laptop computer and a ticket stub issued to a passenger from the flight. He added that experts on human remains were traveling to the recovery site to examine the findings. The 228 people on board the aircraft are presumed dead.

Previously retrieved debris from the likely vicinity of the airplane's disappearance was yesterday revealed to actually be trash from passing ships. A wooden cargo pallet and two buoys had been recovered, but are now believed to have been from a ship. Air France flight 447, traveling from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to, disappeared on June 1 over the Atlantic Ocean. The was last heard via radio at 22:30 local time (01:30 UTC) on June 1 and vanished from radar approximately  off the Brazilian coast.

The cause of the crash is not yet known. Earlier today it was revealed by French authorities that Flight 447's plane sent 24 error messages shortly before it disappeared. They also said that the plane's auto-pilot was not active, although they say that from the error messages it is impossible to determine the reason for it being inactive. The crash is said to be the world's worst aviation disaster since 2001.


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I saw what little I could of the press conference on CNN before they lost interest. I added a laptop computer, oxygen mask and c/e that the ticket was issued to someone for Flight 447. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:38, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It seems strange that a laptop would float. Is there a reliable source for that88.104.2.88 (talk) 08:33, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * According to the BBC it was in a rucksack, there could have been other contents making it float. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:36, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


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Hi, I'm looking at your article Mizoram in Prohibition dilemma. It's interesting but if you've done original research, we need to know what kind you've done; please put any notes you took on the collaboration page of the article. Thanks --Killing Vector (talk) 17:34, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

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Where is peer review? Tempodivalse [talk]  18:31, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I have de-approved the top two versions. It was sighted by gopher65. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:36, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, if you actually bothered to read my revision notes (my rather thorough notes, unlike your useless, informationless, sarcastic ones), you'd see that I did the review and that I just forgot to post the template. Dumbass. If that happens again just leave me a note reminding me to copy/paste the stupid template instead of forcing a re-review when YOU KNOW that it's already been done. At least, if you could read you'd have known. Simple logic and a touch of rationality can get you a long way in life. Gopher65talk 13:41, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

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Dozens of children killed in childcare center fire in Mexico

June 6, 2009 35 children were killed and more than 40 were injured in a fire which roared through the ABC child care center in Hermosillo, Mexico on Friday afternoon. Among the injured were six adults, most who have yet to be identified. Over twenty other children have been hospitalized with burns. They have been transported to local hospitals and other medical facilities in the United States.

Neighbors, employees and firefighters broke walls to rescue unconscious children and babies from the fire in the converted warehouse building which was equipped with only one exit.

Three air ambulances, medical equipment and fifteen burn specialists were dispatched to the scene where children between the ages of six months and five years old perished from smoke inhalation. The majority of the injured and killed were under three years of age, said government officials. Red Cross rescue workers say that 100 children were being cared for when the fire broke out. Sonora state Gov. Eduardo Bours confirmed that 142 children were in the child care center. Already, 27 of the 31 child fatalities have been identified, as parents continue to await news on their children.

Preliminary reports state that the fire may have started in the neighboring tire and car warehouse and spread to the childcare center. President of Mexico Felipe Calderón has placed the attorney general, Eduardo Medina-Mora in charge of the investigation into the cause of the blaze.

Mexico's Social Security Institute also sent out resources to their privately run facility.

Hermosillo, population of over 700,000, is the capital of the Mexican state of Sonora from the American border.


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A penny for your thoughts
Okay, not really, but I am requesting your participation in the following Water Cooler Discussion: OR and Broadcast report. The discussion involves the need for specific policy concerning how Original Reporting relates to information recieved from a broadcast report of an event. This can include both news-style reports and non-news reports, such as a sporting event. Thanks and again, please share your thoughts on this so we can get as many people involved as possible, especially since this relates to an important topic such as OR. —Calebrw (talk) 05:10, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Homeopath prosecuted after ineffective treatment leads to his daughter's death
Could you have another look? It should all be fixed now. Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:48, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Updated again, per your advice. Thanks for all fo this, by the way: If I succeed, it'll be the first one of these I did without an experienced editor writing half of it with me. Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:27, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Tried to fix the one sentence - it's one of those sentences that seems very hard to escape the structure of, even if you carefully wait a few minutes before trying to paraphrase. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:22, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

A favor - The Guardian
Brian - in today's print edition of The Guardian is my portrait of deceased theorist Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick with her obituary. Would you be able to pick up a copy and I'll PayPal you the money as well as to send it to me? --David Shankbone (talk) 13:27, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Just got your note here at 16:15, very unlikely any papers left in the shop. Sorry. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:16, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries - the obits lady offered to send one to me, which was very nice. --David Shankbone (talk) 22:58, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Inappropriate comments at WN:DR
Brianmc, I understand you may be annoyed at user:Mhendrickx, and for good reason too, but the comments directed at him here are simply inappropriate. Please, try to remain w:WP:CIVIL and maintain Etiquette. Thanks, Tempodivalse [talk]  13:30, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * My immediate action thereafter was to go into IRC, post a link to the change I'd made, and invite someone to block me. Note you had to link to WP:CIVIL, which is not a Wikinews guideline or policy. There is in MH's remarks a clear side-shot at me as I was one who changed the COI policy such that his article falls foul of the letter and not just the spirit of the policy.
 * I disagree that the comment is inappropriate. I don't go as far as a "some people are only alive because it is illegal to kill them" philosophy, but I don't believe I, or anyone else in the Wikinews community should have to suffer fools, particularly petulant verbose ones who are too busy picking motes out of other people's eyes to see the huge fencepost in their own. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:14, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Needless to say, I agree with Tempodivalse's comments. Whilst WP:CIVIL isn't a Wikinews policy, I think it is very likely that it reflects the behaviour expected by the community here and it explains not just what is and isn't appropriate but why it is important and helpful. The course of action for dealing with problematic editors is to discuss it with them, warn them about the possible consequences and if it continues block them and ignore them. On a number of occasions Brian seems to instead find himself at the same level as the troublemakers and it doesn't reflect well on him or the project in generally. This attitude of making comments then bringing them to the attention of people on IRC with an invitation to block him is nonsense. Adambro (talk) 16:15, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, yes, you've made your views known before Adambro. You go flog the 'problematic editor' with scented bootlaces; I'll tell you it won't work. Note the incoherent threats to in some way publicise what has happened, should I have referred them to w:WP:DICK? --Brian McNeil / talk 16:20, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Brianmc, please remove the inappropriate comment from the WN:DR page, or redact the inappropriate language from the comment. Cirt (talk) 19:41, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Look I am not against the comment. That user has been intentionally wasting our time with relentless rants. Take a look at just how much time has been wasted on this single article or whatever. It is ridiculous. If the only way to get him to listen was to be frank and up front, then so be it. Frankly I am sick of people who make one article, make edits ONLY to that article then come back a year later to tell us how our policies work. He was told the same thing on more than just one or two occasions. Enough is enough. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 19:48, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. I don't know where y'all come from, but where I come from we don't keep smiling and act courteous to people who don't make any effort to do the same. Mike Halterman (talk) 22:38, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

This reflects quite poorly on, but on a more problematic level, it reflects poorly on Wikinews. It sets a very bad example of how to deal with other users in a polite fashion. The inappropriate language should be redacted. Cirt (talk) 19:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅, resolved/done issue, thanks to . Cirt (talk) 21:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki
Thanks for the answer! But, i have a doubt about the question that i made: I asked about the MediaWiki that made the box "What do you think of this page?", but you answered me about the Comments' namespace. What can i do to insert the box "What do you think of this page?" in pt-wikinews?

Thanks! Vitorbraziledit talk 18:21, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

 * Thanks, but, as Tempo said, i'm refer to the page rating. I will ask in the Water Cooler. Vitorbraziledit talk 18:33, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Welcome
Thank you. I haven't found all the places where the tidbits are yet. I appreciate the template pasted to my talk page for WN. It was unique to get a comment from a not-signed in user. I am not sure if they will get my answer or not. :-) SriMesh |  talk  20:10, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Queue
If you will notice the queue, there are now 0 articles in it. I can't remember the last time there were 0 articles in the queue. :) Mike Halterman (talk) 06:46, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

re: Automating changes
I have heard about it, but never looked into too heavily.

I'll look into it now though. Thanks, Calebrw (talk) 19:07, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Water cooler
Can you answer me here?

Thanks! Vitorbraziledit talk 03:06, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

New Wikinewsie blog and wiki
Please see: Water_cooler/miscellaneous. Thanks. Calebrw (talk) 21:15, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

re: Use of "/" in page titles
Good point. I will defiantly correct all those. There are quite a few. I'm thinking of using WP naming conventions. Calebrw (talk) 14:38, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm curious. I can see WP naming conventions being a good idea for cats/portals/redirects, but how so in articles? --Brian McNeil / talk 14:41, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

. Ok thanks09akoguc (talk) 17:26, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Malawi election
What's your objection to the details I added to Malawian president inaugurated after reelection ? Ong saluri (talk) 21:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I have replied at user talk:Ong saluri. Tempodivalse [talk]  22:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

can you remove or fix anything needed form Credit card companies foreclosing without a mortgage note
I put Credit card companies foreclosing without a mortgage note on my talk page I hope this can make it easy for you remove or fix any thing at all needed? This will be very helpful.Payor (talk) 17:15, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Pakistan regional divisions
Hi, thanks for the message. Well, the thing is, there is in fact a lot of scope for them but the problem arises from the fact that I cannot categorize all those articles accordingly as they appear to be archived. The funny thing is that I fully realised this problem a while after creating those Wikinews portals. I have no idea what to do now, although I can reassure you that I am fully ready to take the responsibilty of creating and monitoring articles relevant to them. You see, I recently left Wikipedia for a change of scene, and will be a passionate Wikinews user instead for the next couple of months. My main areas of expertise will extend to creating all news articles relevant to Pakistan or otherwise its regional divisions.

BTW, I agree with you - I'll try to bring this issue a.s.a.p to the Water Cooler and see what happens :) Ali Rana (talk) 13:22, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Page move suggestion
I suggest moving page from Three men who bombed Iranian mosque publicly hanged to Iran hangs three suspects and blames US and Israel for mosque bombing --ReneJohnsen (talk) 14:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅--Brian McNeil / talk 14:24, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Templating non-templates
If you want to use a template which is not in the template namespace, you can do like this:

--ReneJohnsen (talk) 14:30, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Not what I wanted to do. I wanted tl like that - and I couldn't be bothered with the wikicode. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Section name
I completely blanked on what the right section title was. I was more concerned with getting the story up quickly, so just left it to be fixed up later. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 12:51, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * U.S. manufacturer General Motors declares bankruptcy
 * Not surprised - haven't seen you around recently. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:59, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've been busy. But I haven't gone away. Uncle G (talk) 13:04, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Hallo, Brianmc. Just curious, why did you grant user:Meekel editor status? Isn't one usually supposed to file a request at WN:FRRFP for it first? Just wondering. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  17:30, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * We were joking in IRC, he said "I'm not a reviewer", quickly consulted a couple of admins and we told him to get reviewing. :D --Brian McNeil / talk 08:28, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd rather that a request was filed at WN:FRRFP for this. I don't think that IRC is a place to be making serious decisions such as whether to grant a user editor status. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:37, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've started a water cooler thread on this. Your input and comments are welcome: see this. Cheers. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

My Return
I haven't edited on here for a while. We talked about a year ago in regards to Hunter S. Thompson. I wrote the "Fear and Loathing" series on the 2008 presidential campaign from May to October. Now, I want to write some stories in the gonzo journalism style but I need to know if that is permissible. Let me know. Thanks. --William Saturn (talk) 04:35, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Water_cooler/proposals
Please see my comment dated 13:04, 3 June 2009 (UTC). Thanks. Calebrw (talk) 13:12, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

this is not a hoax, sir
As a wikipedians, i do not put hoaxes because i put the truth things from other clebrities news in the world too. Are you with me, sir?
 * For a start, please sign your comments.
 * I assume you are referring to Former Weekend Splash Concert season 5 contestant who rose short to stardom. Why don't you get Mike to confirm it instead of taking his name in vain? --Brian McNeil / talk 08:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * User has been indef'd for Idiocy. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 01:43, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations on writing your 101st article. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  20:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

My talk page
You should know by now that my talk page is so not the quickest way to get a response. :P

As for NASA, that's over two hours away from where I live, and that would require me actually having to get a hotel room there for a night because buses/trains do not run that often across the peninsula like that. I can barely afford to pay my own bills so if anyone wanted me to write about this, I would actually have to have the money in advance. I can't do it on my own dime. Mike Halterman (talk) 21:50, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

As for that other thing, is that supposed to be some Malaysian bullshit? I noticed lots of the lead were cut almost verbatim from my interview with Whitney Cunningham. Why would I care about some crap in Malaysia anyway? It looks like a total hoax and it doesn't seem like a real show to begin with, and it was a nice touch that they went ahead and just copied from my Whitney interview and changed some names. Mike Halterman (talk) 21:53, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments revert
I'd like to ask what you saw that warranted this rollback? The comment is exceptionally long but, skimming through it, I didn't see anything that warrants wholesale deletion. Was it copyrighted or did I just miss something? Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 11:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Search with the opening sentence, it was cut and pasted from another website. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:41, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanx Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 11:44, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Lost Wikinews email address
Brian,

The email address j.ford (@) wikinewsie (dot) org would be good. Thanks again for your help. --WNewsReporter (talk) 18:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I meant what email address can I send your new password to! --Brian McNeil / talk 19:25, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. Send it to my alternate address: homevideopictures (@) gmail (dot) com. --WNewsReporter (talk) 02:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Template:Publish
Hi, How r u Brianmc? I`m Mo7amedSalim an admin in arabic wikipedia and in wikinews. I have a question for u and hope u got the answe. while i was moving Template:Publish to arabic wikinews, i got a problem. the problem is the template uses in making the url the name of the article while in the arabic that`s can`t be because there isn`t any url in arabic. so do you have any solution? thanks alot. --محـ سالم ـمد نشوان (talk) 14:13, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The use of ParserFunctions is only in the social bookmarks template. The code is  and  . Both of these functions turn the page name into parameters for the bookmark site. This is not much use on the publish template, but it is useful when you put publish on an article.
 * If you've copied the wikicode exactly, then these will work. There is some javascript to make clicking a bookmarking link open in a new window, but that is not essential. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:28, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Template_talk:Howdy
Please see Template_talk:Howdy. Your input on some CSS is requested. Calebrw (talk) 23:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Italian National Guard sparks outrage -- lead
Hi Brian, I'm new here so I'm not quite sure how to submit this possible lead for a story and don't want to screw up the requests page:

"ROME – Italy's interior minister defended plans Monday to allow citizen patrols to beef up security amid outrage over a new right-wing guard that has put Fascist and Nazi-like symbols on its uniforms ...."

Yahoo: Italy right-wing guard sparks outrage

Lots of reports on google news for "italian national guard". Cheers,  Esowteric | Talk  13:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Have added the request. Hope I got it right.  Esowteric | Talk  14:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

could you take another look at the google news thread on the water cooler
Could you take another look at the Water_cooler/technical. I think there may be an issue after all. (but its google news archive, not google news) for example: . Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Number of sources
I already commented to this at the article's talk page. I will take the comments under advisement and use fewer sources in the future. Cirt (talk) 08:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I did one with too many once and am thus sensitive to it being a barrier to review. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:01, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Duly noted. This has now been impressed upon me multiple times within the past twenty-four hours. I get it. Thank you. Cirt (talk) 08:02, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Broken link
I was just looking though your user page (getting inspiration for mine) and I noticed that your link "Interviewed by The Canadian Press" is no longer hosted by google. Pity, I would have liked to read that :) --82.31.206.197 (talk) 10:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Whoops, forgot to sign in. Resigning --James Pain (talk) 10:27, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not even in the WayBack Machine. :( --Brian McNeil / talk 10:29, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Greenland assumes self rule Sunday
Hello there. Puttered again at Greenland assumes self rule Sunday....and retitled - is it meeting better WN criteria now? Was not sure about the too encyclopaedic if it was in reference to title or article....18:43, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Lead article 2
Good points, my mistake. Thanks for explaining it in the edit summary. :) Cirt (talk) 20:44, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Cough
Ahem! Uncle G (talk) 00:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Jackson
What exactly have you got against Michael Jackson? --AdamM (talk) 04:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Nothing, I just never liked his music and think all the hype is utterly unwarranted. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:53, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * And that warrants tasteless comments in the vein of this and this, does it? I think you need to grow up. --AdamM (talk) 09:10, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Regarding the spam warning
Hi,

I am sorry for the spamming. I thought the Indian editors would be interested in our website, since we are starting out a new news agency, and we will have content that other websites don't have at the moment. Since we will be soon selling our content, I thought it would be wise to get in touch with a few WikiNews writers and see if a loose sort of collaboration can be built, before we go commercial. It would be beneficial to both of us, since the content on WikiNews seems outdated most of the time. I couldn't think of any better way to contact them, that's why I had to write on their talk pages.

Did anybody complain about this? If so, I shall apologise to him/her personally.

Maybe you can help me out with this: What would be a good, and non-spammy way to reach out to the editors and other writers who would be interested in using our content to build that page? There is a list of sources they use, and I have appended our website, so that they may notice it. But I am afraid nobody seems to have noticed it.

Sorry again,

Vivek.sonny.abraham (talk) 08:50, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Sidebar
I saw you changed the capitalisation in the sidebar, but it doesn't appear to have changed?   Dotty••   16:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

 * Also, another question. If I change my username on this project, will it change across all Wikis or not?  Thanks!     Dotty••   18:35, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Single source
...yes, but I was still working on the article. – Juliancolton  | Talk 16:39, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Then don't worry about it. The concern is that it's totally based on one article (risk of copyright issues) and a second just tacked on to beat the single source tag. I was still going to have to do the rename so I had to touch it anyway. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:42, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, alright. Anyway, I've further expanded it with more sourced info and listed it for review, if you're interested. – Juliancolton  | Talk 16:51, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * By the time I looked for it someone had reviewed it. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:59, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Consider removing the "cleanup" nomination ("Authorities destroy Michael Jackson tribute in Trafalgar Square")
I consulted several native speakers about my original contribution and they deemed it of publishable quality. Independently of this, my contribution has now been copyedited by another user. On top of that, my personal belief is that the quality standards on any wiki should be realistic if not liberal. Especially when the choice is between to be or not to be of a valid information, the outcome "to be" should be given favour. Said that, there is obviously nothing wrong about improving an article when somebody can do so. Please, remove the "cleanup" nomination if the current state of the article meets your literary standards. (I can notify you when any further modifications to the article occur after that if you declare such interest.) —6birc (talk) 20:36, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It wasn't up to scratch when tagged. It has been significantly improved by copyediting. I'm not so sure the NPOV concerns have been addressed and it is heading for stale now. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:46, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Grab-bag of cats
I believe them to be the countries of players mentioned in the table. Cheers, --SVTCobra 20:45, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a hell of a stretch to take that to having the article show up in the DPL on Israel. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:58, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Tributes paid to the victims of the July 7 2005 London bombings
Brian. Did you miss the comma in the title? lol Calebrw (talk) 02:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Gonzo journalism
Is Gonzo journalism acceptable? --William Saturn (talk) 00:56, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

 * Still waiting for a response...--William Saturn (talk) 05:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Is Gonzo journalism WN:NPOV? Does it conform to the WN:STYLE guide? --Brian McNeil / talk 08:49, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Possibly. The stories are more or less interviews or accounts of an encounter with somebody or something. What I am asking is if it is appropriate to place oneself into a story? --William Saturn (talk) 22:00, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This is something to take to the wider community, or be brave and try. Everyone gets stuff deleted. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:06, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * My understanding of Gonzo journalism is that it is fictionalized. I would find that extremely hard to incorporate under existing policies. --SVTCobra 22:19, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Gallery news article
Hi,

I notice you protected this with the explanation "keep it to people who know the project".

My understanding on developing stories is from the "breaking news" project page, which states that information can change rapidly in the early stages of an article, and advises to update the lead story (if this were it) often. I read that as suggesting that even after initial publication, a story should be updated to improve it, including where salient citable information comes to hand shortly after review.

As a newcomer to news, can you explain this a bit further?

Thanks,

FT2 (Talk 10:36, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This story was written over several days prior to publication. It's had way to much changes since then. There are no new details and it is becoming too encyclopedic. There's also our sex image vandal who tends to be good at coming back after a block. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:38, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

 * Okay. Is there a page you can point me to, for the distinction? And also, you've reverted and locked from editing two items that I'd ask you to reconsider - the first is a correction of fact and the second is a crucial aspect of the case that the legal precedents of Bridgeman and its cites are in fact from high level UK cases and not US based (as the existing cites and story suggest, which now appears to be an incorrect impression). FT2 (Talk 10:44, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It is only semi-protected, you should still be able to edit it. The point was to stop people who'd not read all the background already there from chipping in and changing things like English to British where inappropriate. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:47, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * To note, breaking was never applicable to this article. That's for "Bomb explodes in London" when you've confirmation of the explosion, but no causalty details and the story will change. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:56, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

 * Thanks (and thanks for that note too). As a user who might be deemed to "not know the project" :) it's probably best I heed the advice, and refrain from editing further on it. Would either or both of the above edits be okay, with none anticipated beyond that? I would rather check explicitly while I'm learning :) FT2 (Talk 11:00, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think so, it's easy to manage when it is not a wholesale rewrite. Of concern to me is use of the source template without a date. Such links should not use the template as the content they refer to is undated. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:03, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Edit done as discussed, including "date" field (diff); I'm leaving it as it now is, unless something else comes up. Thanks for your time in explaining things :) FT2 (Talk 11:24, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikinews interviews Mike Lebowitz, chairman of the U.S. Modern Whig Party
Brian, would you mind doing a peer review for the artilce above? I changed the title, added sources and re-edited it. Thanks. --WNewsReporter (talk) 18:15, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Need Fr -> EN translators
Can you announce somewhere (a village pump ?) that the article French workers put gas canister around factory's vehicules to get fair extra cash -an original wikinews interview- need a Fr -> EN translation. I don't know where find this help, and I have to go. Tonneins (talk) 14:05, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

username change on commons
I am requesting a rename on Commons. My current Commons name is Brianmc. Brian McNeil / talk 13:47, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

ArbCom election
You are invited to make a statement at Arbitration Committee/2009 elections. Computerjoe 's talk 15:31, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Favour?
Brian, could you put a site-wide notice up about the ArbCom elections? I don't know how to, and doubt that a non-sys-op could. Computerjoe 's talk 20:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey Brian. Sorry I did not get back to you over the Museums and Art article, a wee while back. I was having fun recovering after a stay in A&E at the time. Hope all is well your way! :) Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 23:57, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

About the LA Fitness Shooting Article
If you take a look at the Wikipedia article about this news, the perpetrator of the shooting is that person and there are already major media reporting about the shooter. I don't mind about the revert but you can verify it in Wikipedia. --98.154.26.247 (talk) (my page in Wikipedia) 01:06, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but you (a) added information not mentioned in any sources, and did not provide a source to back it up. and (b) Wikinews articles are not a work in progress. They are a snapshot of what was known at the time. They should not change substantially after publication. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:53, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Category:Edinburgh
Adding cats to a large number of articles is probably an ideal candidate for using the flood flag. Adambro (talk) 18:35, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Proposal on strategy
I consider to make a proposal on strategy.wikimedia. So I'm checking, which proposals are somehow connected to mine. Especially I noticed your sentence: "this is really a highly inappropriate form to store the data in". So you're maybe interested in my proposal:
 * "This is an long term proposal: We collect immense amounts of data without doing much effort do make it processurable. A natural extension of what we do is a project data.wikimedia.com, providing a host for data with an orientation on processurability by (computer-)programs. [...]The steering by wikimedia is needed because we have an hypertext environment which is adapted to put any amout of human readable text into context, but not to host data."

This is the first and sole paragraph of http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Erzbischof/data.wikimedia.org. My still vague goal is a service orientated at historical time series and series of general interest generated by Wikipedia-articels, so weather time series would fit nicely into this.

Greetings, --78.54.141.61 (talk) 19:40, 13 August 2009 (UTC) (Erzbischof 21:06, 13. Aug. 2009 (CEST)
 * This fits in very nicely with the idea of collating weather information. Another item of data that can be collected is earthquake reports. We already have a bot runs in the #wikinews channel on freenode that follows USGS reports and alerts when there's a 5.0 or higher quake. I'd suggest looking for other datasets so you've maybe as many as half a dozen to put forward. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I would like to work together with de:Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Vorlagenauswertung/en who generate datasets from templates in german wikipedia, and of course, your input is appreciated. I think it's important so start with a fairly general concept able to host these different already existing projects. Thank you, --Erzbischof (talk) 20:15, 13 August 2009 (UTC).

You have mail
You have email from last night about something Dragon and I were discussing. Your opinions are wanted. So give them up! ;) Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:36, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I saw something this morning, but was distracted at the time. Seem to have mis-filed or otherwise lost - can you resend? --Brian McNeil / talk 20:39, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. Done. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:42, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Image license
Hey Brian, I noticed you uploaded File:Horizontal-IB.png a while ago. As part of a cleanup, I was wondering if you could add a proper license (which will automatically add a proper category as well). Thanks! Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk • contribs) 23:57, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It could go to commons, I've no desire to keep it and there's nothing local in the way of templates to use with it. --Brian McNeil / talk 01:06, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding a license. I think it can be moved to the commons. For now I left it and added an appropriate license-template (cc-by 2.5). If you think 3.0 is fine as well, please change it or let me know. Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk • contribs) 10:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

László Sólyom banned from Slovakia
Please elaborate how this news has failed the criterion of being "newsworthy". I will try to rephrase some of the article, but unfortunately I cannot change facts. What happened, has happened, our task is to report about it. Qorilla (talk) 16:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It was not reviewed for newsworthiness - just style where there were some big problems. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:10, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry then. On the page it was written "Newsworthiness: Failed". I guess it is "Failed" by default in the template. By the way I cited respected international sources and added more quotes. Could you tell me your opinion about the current state of the article? Qorilla (talk) 18:21, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Licensing update
Hi, m:User:MGodwin redirected me to you. I have some questions update. ere is the message I sent to MGodwin: I contribute to Turkish Wikinews and this project's license is CC-BY 2.5 and I wonder if this project is affected by licensing update, should we change our license to CC-By-SA 3.0? Also, there is a new version of CC-BY license. It is 3.0. But all wikinews are using CC-BY 2.5. What is the difference between these two versions? Can we use CC-BY 3.0 instead of 2.5? Thanks in advance. Srhat (talk) 14:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The difference the license change makes is that Wikipedia can now incorporate material from Wikinews because of their change of license. It doesn't work the other way round, Wikinews can't take material from Wikipedia.
 * I don't know the detailed changes between the 2.5 and 3.0 CC-BY licenses, but there are some points to note:

 * Originally en.wn was Public Domain
 * Wikinews switched to CC-BY-2.5, all old articles remained PD, new content CC-BY-2.5
 * Existing articles cannot be moved from 2.5 to 3.0 unless 2.5 contains a migration clause
 * If no migration clause, a cut-off and changeover would be required
 * A vote to change or migrate would be on meta as all wikinews must move for interlanguage translation reasons
 * Personally, I see no compelling reason to change license. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:50, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Thank you. It was really helpful. Srhat (talk) 19:45, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Tempature
Thanks for the tip. I wasn't sure why it removed it, when it seemed to be displaying just fine. I'll check with the bot owner later sometime today. Drew R. Smith (talk) 21:00, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I am back for good
Hey Brian I am back. I propose we raise the standard of Wikinews. I wont review the articles like before, in more depth and with proper reasoning, shall start writing new articles soon. See ya soon ! Danger^Mouse (talk) 12:33, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

My RfA
Just wanted to say thanks for participating in my RfA. I'll be sure to put the tools to good use. :) – Juliancolton  | Talk 18:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

re Wikinews talk:Obituary from Wikipedia
Thank you very much for thinking of me and giving me notice about this, no I had not seen it yet. Cirt (talk) 20:41, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Heads up
. I had hoped this would not happen. :( Cirt (talk) 07:13, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That looks much better, nice work. :) Cirt (talk) 21:28, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Andhra Pradesh CHIEF MINISTER MR Y S RAJ SHEKHAR REDDY dies in chopper crash
You deleted this saying it not be news. But it is everywhere in the news ... see just here http://news.google.com/news?q=reddy. How can you say it not be news? RAWR --65.51.209.124 (talk) 13:29, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Because it had no content, no sources, and could thus not be verified or checked. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:10, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Man suspected of downloading child porn in mall in Honolulu, Hawaii
Is this better? A 45 year old man from Kaimuki was arrested Tuesday, September 2nd, at the Apple Store at Ala Moana Center after workers saw him downloading child pornography on one of the stores computers.

The source was threadbare, so there's really not much to work with... I could also change Ala Moana Center to Ala Moana mall, which is what most people here call it. Drew R. Smith (talk) 11:23, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You need to lose part of the Wikipedia thinking, as well as get more critical of what is reported. First, Tuesday of this week does not need qualified with the date. If the article is referred to now, then people know what is meant by the day of the week. If it is referred to at some point in the future then it is trivial to work out what the date is from the date template on the article. Specifying the date is an encyclopedic style of reference. Second, "workers saw him downloading child pornography" tends to assume they're correct and he's guilty. They may claim he downloaded it, or some such other term. The key point is Wikinews takes no position on it. What the workers say is an allegation. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:49, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * How's it look now? Drew R. Smith (talk) 13:36, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks better, but you didn't read the copyvio template closely enough. As specified on the template, the article should be rewritten on a sub-page so the page containing the copyright violation can be deleted - the disputed page remains in the history otherwise. Unfortunately, it's now just two paragraphs whereas unless something is breaking news three is looked for as a minimum. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:41, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Copyvio
I am the author of this interview. I do not understand what copyright violation are you talking about. Please tell me if in this case "(I mean beeing the author of this interview) is anything wrong with my interview.--C (talk) 13:40, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It would help if you put your comment in context, perhaps with a link to the article you are referring to.
 * As a guess to what you're referring to, a single source article almost-automatically falls under suspicion of copyright infringement. If the article is a literal translation of a source in a foreign language, then you may be surprised to learn that this is most definitely a copyright violation.
 * IIRC these points are moot, the article in question is based on something from at least two months ago - indisputably stale.. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:58, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to mention that interview was taken by me 2 month ago, but was printed in the journal only 1 day ago.So it is fresh news.I suppose in this case it is not stale, right? I will mention a link to the article just as soon as it will be posted on the source I mention allready. The journal has strated to be distributed and to be bought by readers only from today.I have for the moment only a pdf or jpg version of the article. You can see it here http://www.vitas-romania.ro/viewtopic.php?f=27&p=9342&sid=9859b4d16eb8895cebf5bd009b7ee858#p9342 or here : http://vitas.myforum.ro/-vp6230.html#6230 C (talk) 06:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * This is not the appropriate place for this - please take it up on your article's talk page. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

re w:Template talk:Recent death
✅. Now what about w:Template:Current related, w:Template:Current section, w:Template:Current, and Template Current spaceflight? Cirt (talk) 16:19, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Update: Added it back so far only at w:Template:Recent death. However, was reverted again within short order, by same individual. Cirt (talk) 17:19, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * My considered and thought-out response is utterly unprintable. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I did versions of all the other templates in my userspace (so /Current, /Current section, etc.) --Brian McNeil / talk 17:25, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, FWIW, I posted a central notice at w:Template:Cent, and at w:Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). Cirt (talk) 17:26, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Large earthquake strikes nation of Georgia
Brian McNeil please check http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php. You will see the GEORGIA (SAK'ART'VELO) quake was reported at 5.9 not 6.2. Please correct this.
 * Unfortunately the demanding IP is correct. Originally the USGS reported this as 6.2, even after a seismologist reviewed it (saw it with my own eyes).  They have since revised it to 5.9.  Goes to show how awesome Georgian geologists are.... 8.0... what a joke.  Anyways, article updated to reflect this. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 06:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

68.192.158.195
Sure he had a contribution today. See Special:Contributions/68.192.158.195. Was already warned for nonsense a few days ago; see talk and deleted contribs, so they knew it was unwanted and needed a little bit of removal from our site. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:50, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

recent review of pakistan bombings
I removed your review; almost the entirety of the text (at least 6 paragraphs) were ripped directly from this VOA article Xavexgoem (talk) 09:23, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll revert to the previous. Sorry about that. I am new here (I still contend we can do better; I don't see the point in writing an article simply because it's that easy). While I'm at it, I just wrote an article on the Peru/Honduras thing... I'm unclear what parts need to be cleaned up. Could you give me some more specific guidance? Thank you. Xavexgoem (talk) 09:28, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Em, what's not clear from the cleanup tag? The title is confusing, and a location as part of the dateline is not done unless you are at the scene (Are you in Honduras?). Lastly, the article had no categories. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:32, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. I tend to read templates without regard for any variables (I'm cynical that way); sorry about that. I've made the title more straightforward, added categories, and marked for review. Xavexgoem (talk) 09:40, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Page Deletion
Thanks for the info, didn't mean to not give attribution; I didn't know I was allowed to change the name to articles others had created, thought I had to start all over.--JaylanHaley (talk) 22:32, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. Once you know why you shouldn't cut-and-paste you'll never do it again - because you don't want someone else to do it to your work. ;-) --Brian McNeil / talk 22:35, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Howdy
Hi Brian, I was just welcomed with your wonderful template. I rarely stick around here at WN but I will take it as inspiration for future templates. With a smile, --Mietchen (talk) 14:14, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Single sentence openings
I do have to argue with your theory about single-sentence openings as lots of articles have just one sentence in the first paragraph. --Rayboy8 (talk) 16:03, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but a lot of sources use that as a "here is what to be concerned or outraged about", so it can be very difficult to be really WN:NPOV when your opening paragraph is a single sentence assertion.
 * It also doesn't take into consideration when a link to the story is posted on Facebook or elsewhere. You want to take the first paragraph (lede) answer as much of the 5W&H as you can, and that's what you present to enourage people to read the full article. A single-sentence opening paragraph is, really, just having a second headline. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:03, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

SETimes
Those changes sound trivial. I'll implement them tomorrow and I'll add a couple of news from SETimes. If everything would be OK, I think that I may start with bot the day after tomorrow. --millosh (talk) 18:19, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Take a look at the page User:Millosh/examples/Topi says Albania aware of NATO responsibilities. I think that I would be able to start bot tomorrow. I've made User:Millbot-VoA account and I am starting to work on it. --millosh (talk) 10:55, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * See the change I made there, and Template:Develop which now has extensive documentation. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:36, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. Fixed. Do you want some comment for ? --millosh (talk) 12:02, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * There's a link to the Wikipedia article on the parent org displayed as part of the develop template - and a hint they might not be NPOV. That can be made more prominent or explicit if it's felt we need to do so. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:23, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * May you write the sentence which you want as a comment? I realized that I am not able to make a concise sentence in English about that :) --millosh (talk) 15:24, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No statement, just the or . --Brian McNeil / talk 15:26, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I've added into SETimes bot. --millosh (talk) 06:48, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: open proxies
I'm getting most of the IPs off lists at w:Wikipedia:Open proxy detection and m:Meta:Open proxy detection, which i think are pretty reliable. I don't know why that particular IP was a false positive, perhaps it closed itself since then or I made a mistake when copying the numbers. Sorry about that. <font face="Georgia">Tempodivalse <font face="Georgia">[talk]  19:15, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That was the second, although I lost track of the earlier one. In that case I looked at the same IP's talk on WP - blocked in '2007. I am actually scanning them, don't block them based on outdated information from meta or wp. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:24, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You want something called Zenmap, which is a graphical front-end to the unix nmap tool. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:25, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * yeah, i probably should get it. I thought that all the OP lists were up-to-date, but looks like they weren't -- my bad. I'll be extra-careful in the future. Cheers <font face="Georgia">Tempodivalse <font face="Georgia">[talk]  19:29, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Wiki administrator is a great excuse for when your ISP screams at you for doing port scans. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:31, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

SETimes bot
Fixed. --millosh (talk) 02:29, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Grammar
I was trying to put a period in, because one is missing. One of the problems with using multiple nested templates is that it is very difficult to achieve proper grammar for certain conditionals. Here is an example of what is missing: US criticises Turkey for postponing NATO exercise. There is a period missing after "neutrality". Gopher65talk 15:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Brian McNeil / talk 15:50, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

requested articles? no rush for a reply i know your busy take your time. cheers :) and thanks.
hello Brian sorry to take up your time i know your very busy just wanted to ask if you did requested article's and make them into a full article to be published if this is not your bag then thats fine just was wondering because some users on here might help out on the ra's. take your time in answering no rush thanks. 72.73.65.104 (talk) 13:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's one of those pages I rarely look at. Give it a go yourself, but be careful of sources. I see one recently added that cites two sources which are just different websites with the same AP story. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:42, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks Brian for replying back to me and i'am not that great at writing articles full length even shorts are difficult for me they take time and effort and patience lol just hard for me to do sometimes but you never know someone might jump on one of the requests? never know cheers :) thank you. 72.73.65.104 (talk) 13:46, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your review of the article US free speech lawyer Marc Randazza discusses Glenn Beck parody. Also, thank you for your good copyediting. :) Cheers, Cirt (talk) 11:08, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You've been spending too much time on Wikipedia recently ;-) It shows in your writing. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:12, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Valid point. My apologies. I guess it would help to focus on current events writing, but they pull me back in... :P Cirt (talk) 11:21, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I was reading the article, going hmmm... interesting ..... *bleep!* another bloody colon! At least it isn't the other extreme that we've all tried to guide DF away from; BREAKING! READ-ALL-ABOUT-IT! Hamster escapes from cage :-P --Brian McNeil / talk 11:35, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Heh, true. Well, thanks again. :) Cirt (talk) 11:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you for reviewing my article IBEX satellite releases first all sky map, and fixing the title! I just have a question (which would be expected with my first article).

I understand that a handbook, or really any book for that matter, is not the best source for news content. The only reason I pulled out that textbook was to review the workings of the Heliosphere. Is that okay for future articles? Also is there a way to cite local newspapers which are printed not published online?

Thanks,

-- Marx01  Tell me about it 01:25, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

VoA bot

 * Articles are being imported with Upstyle titles, WN:SG is downstyle - can this be fixed?
 * Heh. I want to add some linguistic tools to the bot, but it is too early for such issues. First of all I would like to recognize country or so. For making them downstyle program would need to know which words should and which shouldn't be with small initial letter. --millosh (talk) 22:30, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Items like "Website of the week" are editorial/magazine content. Can these be excluded?
 * May you give to me example? I have to analyze them. --millosh (talk) 22:30, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * VOA and SETimes seem to sometimes share stories - noted imported dupes today.
 * Hmm... It's hard to do that. However, when I add all VoA news, I think that SETimes will be redundant, so I'll shut down SETimes bot. --millosh (talk) 22:30, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Hagiography
I'm sorry, but I still don't understand what you refer to as "Hagiography" in this article here. Why is it not ready to be published? --Rayboy8 (talk) 21:44, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, Wikipedia puts the term more in context, but the specific section is Hagiography. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:05, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't understand why this was rejected either. Obviously a funeral is going to have lots of positive comments about the deceased, what else would be in the article? And Wikinews seems to have published similar articles previously. (Don't get me wrong, I don't like hagiographies either, and am disturbed by Wikipedia's embrace of them under the guise of "BLP", but that's another story.) the wub "?!"  13:41, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * There was not a single critical point in the entire article, or - in fact - in any of the numerous articles on someone who was a former pop star no longer in the public eye. An early article on his death had a hamfisted attempt to include something from one of the UK's tabloid papers, but it would have been quite a bit of work to include this in a reasonable manner; the piece was editorial in nature, condemned Gately for his homosexuality, and implied he died young as a result of this. Wikipedia would throw it out instantly on BLP grounds, but it was a significant criticism - even if only for the near-universal condemnation it brought the publisher. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

INDECT article
Hi, just wanted to let you know about my comments at Featured article candidates and Talk:Listening to you at last: EU plans to tap cell phones. the wub "?!"  13:36, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Please review
Could you review AFL provides insufficiant support for European leagues: Germany please?--RockerballAustralia (talk) 14:55, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll look when I'm finished what I'm doing, and you fix the spelling error in the title. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:02, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I fixed the typo. :-) <font face="Georgia">Tempodivalse <font face="Georgia">[talk]  15:09, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks. If you spot another victim-editor, mug them. This is taking a little longer than I expected. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:21, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous users
I have nothing to do with 58.152.195.60 or 72.73.125.14, see --House1630 (talk) 09:31, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

''We don't invite anons to open an account quite as curtly as that; see Howdy-anon, and don't subst it. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:22, 27 October 2009 (UTC) I don't give a damn if you're intimately related to those IP addresses or not. Don't use that message. It's borderline rude to someone who prefers not to open an account. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:59, 29 October 2009 (UTC) --Brian McNeil'' / talk 10:02, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Responded on talk

The question is whether an article of anonymous users may be published, see http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Hong_Kong_launches_its_first_electric_car. I can only make a proof scientifically or technically, not personally - that means that I don't go to Hongkong to look if it is real. In the meantime this article has been submitted for speedy deletion according to the Criteria for speedy deletion. --House1630 (talk) 10:32, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I have no idea whatsoever why you're harassing me about this. Read the policies, read the links in the welcome template on your user page. You cannot review or publish an article until you are granted the WN:EDITOR privilege. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:42, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Marx
Actually, you have the wrong Marx. Karl Marx is a relative of mine, and I like some of his ideals, although the ways in which they have been implemented has led to unfortunate results. Thanks for the consideration! Happy writing! Marx01 Tell me about it 00:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, no. It's an old political online joke. "I like to consider myself a Marxist, I find his works reasoned, articulate, and compelling <link to Groucho &c>" --Brian McNeil / talk 04:09, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well now I feel silly. At least now I have two things to laugh at; My own unawareness and the joke! Thank you for clarifying that! Marx01  Tell me about it 18:56, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Or, "Karl, the never-seen on-screen Marx brother". :-) --Brian McNeil / talk 22:24, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Please Review
Can you review Wikinews interviews Zahra Stardust about the upcoming by-election in the Bradfield electorate of the Australian parliament --RockerballAustralia (talk) 12:14, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello BrianMC
hi! I have seen that User:/Newsroom, you have copied some elements from my newsroom but some of them are wrong. In start a new article remove the parser  as you don't want the article intro and preload to be my supbages but the standard templates. So, the source change suggested is:

{{#tag:inputbox| type=create preload= {{#ifexist:User:Srinivas/New page|User:Srinivas/New page| Template:New page }} editintro= {{#ifexist:User:Srinivas/New article intro|User:Srinivas/New article intro| Template:New article intro }} width=45 }}

{{#tag:inputbox| type=create preload=Template:New page editintro=Template:New article intro width=45 }} Srin  ivas  04:55, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * jjez! No need to nag about it, it will go eventually. I've been busy on other stuff but got what I thought was the most important change live - the header. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:49, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: Review
I cannot believe I let something like that go! I was mainly looking in the article for any biased comments and misspellings there. I will make sure that this does not occur in the future. Thank you for catching that! Marx01 Tell me about it 01:32, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikinews turns five COI?
Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm guessing your referring to the video and the last paragraph when you saying there is a COI issue in the above article? As per what I've done in the past I'm going to state my COI - or what i perceive it to be on the articles talk page --RockerballAustralia (talk) 11:01, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Numbers in headlines
I hesitated about writing "twenty" in the Berlin Wall celebrations headline as opposed to 20; in the interest of brevity I put 20 but in the future I will spell out numbers appropriately. Thanks Brian! --Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 12:23, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

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Tempodivalse [talk]  20:33, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

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Wikinews:Dynamic quiz/quiz/2009/24

Welcome to the Wikinews World News Quiz, giving you a chance to test your knowledge on this week's news.

Last Updated: June 7, 2009

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Australia, Japan, Korea Republic, Netherlands all qualify for 2010 FIFA World Cup

June 8, 2009 Australia, Japan, South Korea and the Netherlands have all qualified for the 2010 FIFA World Cup. Australia drew 0–0 with Qatar, Japan defeated Uzbekistan 1–0, South Korea qualified by defeating the United Arab Emirates 2–0 and a 2–1 win over Iceland saw the Netherlands qualify. All four countries have two games to play in qualifying. "They put us under pressure," Australia coach Pim Verbeek said of his team's games. "We thought they could only do that for 20 minutes and they did it for almost 90 so I have to congratulate the young players from Qatar. They made it very difficult for us."

In a statement emailed out to the media, Football Federation Australia CEO Ben Buckley said, "It's another first for Australian football, and it's come off the back of a comprehensive qualification pathway which began in February last year. Qualifying this time around, with the travel and match conditions the team has experienced, is a true measure of the progress football has made. While 'do or die' results, such as the famous Uruguay game four years ago are exciting, a qualifying campaign such as this one through the Asian zone is a tough test."

FIFA named the Japan-Uzbekistan game as match of the day. Japanese forward Shinji Okazaki scored the only goal of that match, securing Japan's place at the World Cup.

"This away game was really tough but I'm really happy, because I'd only scored in friendly games previously," Okazaki said. "This time, I feel like I did very well for the Japanese team.

"Japan are a big team — both on and off the field — who have become a major force in world football. We are delighted that they today became the first team to qualify for the 2010 FIFA World Cup," Danny Jordaan, World Cup organising committee chief, said.

South Korea opened the scoring in there match with the UAE through Park Chu-young after five minutes. Ki Sung-yueng sealed qualification for the Koreans on 37 minutes.

The Netherlands scored their two goals in the first ten minutes. Nigel de Jong scored after eight minutes and Mark van Bommel scored on 15 minutes.


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Tempodivalse [talk]  02:01, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Typo in your user page
The URL should be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cynical (missing "/wiki") Henry Delforn (talk) 00:43, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

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Talk:Australia, Japan, Korea Republic, Netherlands all qualify for 2010 FIFA World Cup

OR (Press Release from FFA)
The statement refered to in the article is as follows

A copy was sent to scoop --RockerballAustralia (talk) 04:40, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

 * Goal.com reprinted the release here. --SVTCobra 22:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

First paragraph hard work
The first paragraph does say who played who and what the results are, but you'd practically have to sit down with a piece of paper to work out what the matches were. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:23, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, much clearer now - and not just because I'm more awake. ;-) --Brian McNeil / talk 11:16, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Korea Republic (South Korea) - In case of dispute
The South Korean national football team is officially known as Korea Republic. North Korea is known as Korea DPR. --RockerballAustralia (talk) 01:47, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


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User talk:129.123.67.18

Welcome
Welcome!

129.123.67.18, welcome to Wikinews! Thank you for your contributions I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews:
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
 * Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced
 * Introduction - overview of the site
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 * Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
 * Style guide - how articles should look before publishing
 * Contents - the contents page.
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * And of course, stories need writing!

Here are some other hints and tips:

 * I would recommend that you get a username. You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikinews, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information (not even an e-mail address), and there are many benefits of having a username.  (If you edit without a username, your IP address is used to identify you instead.)

 * When using talk pages (the "collaboration" tab at the top of the page), or the comments pages (tab "opinions"), please sign your name at the end of your messages by typing four tildes (~~). This will automatically produce your username (or IP address) and the date.

If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!

p.s. Thank you for copyediting 24 error messages sent by Flight 447. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:51, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

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Comments:Bigger than Pluto, possible 10th planet found

plzzzzzzzzz help me with my assignment whats is the name of the tenth planet
 * Go google it. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:05, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "thanks"
thanks —87.9.83.18 (talk) 21:35, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "planets sedna came from there ..."
planets sedna came from there ufo area 51 nevada groom lake underground base —70.181.131.198 (talk) 02:39, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "i know ufo came from whirlpool..."
i know ufo came from whirlpool galaxy m 51 rosweel crash in new mexco nevada groom lake area 51 from john craig —70.181.149.6 (talk) 02:50, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "It should have pictures of the..."
It should have pictures of the new planet and the compelete information.Thanks. By Alisha —46.230.34.210 (talk) 17:15, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "Hate it uffff by naina"
Hate it uffff by naina —46.230.34.210 (talk) 17:16, 5 November 2012 (UTC)


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Comments:Interview with Anna Mikkola, Finnish Left Alliance candidate for European Parliament

Good ideas. Anna sounds like one I could vote for. It's unfortunate I don't live in Finland (yet). -Alemaco (talk) 11:37, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Win?
So, did she win the seat? Mike Halterman (talk) 03:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


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User talk:;Hiba;1

Welcome
--Brian McNeil / talk 12:30, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

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Talk:Europeans go to the polls to elect Members of the European Parliament

Sourcing from BBC
It isn't quite single source, but it is strongly advised to pick at least two independent sources for your article. If you use two from the same source (BBC) then any error in one could be repeated in the other. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:13, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I have now added a source from RTÉ. Jolly Ω Janner  14:30, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Review
--Brian McNeil / talk 14:06, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Can it be put in the Main Page now? It needs updating anyway. Jolly Ω Janner  14:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


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Jenson Button wins 2009 Turkish Grand Prix

June 8, 2009

Brawn GP driver Jenson Button won yesterday's FIA Formula One 2009 ING Turkish Grand Prix at the Istanbul Racing Circuit in Istanbul, Turkey. This became his sixth win in the season after seven races and became only the fifth driver to do so in history, after Alberto Ascari, Juan Manuel Fangio, Jim Clark and Michael Schumacher (twice). This is Buttons' forth race win in a row. Pole-sitter Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull-Renault) made a crucial error on the first lap by running wide and lost the lead to Button. This spoiled the three pit-stop race strategy for Vettel who then lost second place to his teammate Mark Webber. Jarno Trulli finished fourth for Toyota.

Button's teammate, Rubens Barrichello, had a poor start and damaged his car after several unsuccessful overtaking attempts and later retired with a gearbox problem after 47 laps. This was Brawn GP's first retirement in the 2009 season. Giancarlo Fisicella was the only other retirement in the race when his Force India car had brake issues after four laps.

Nico Rosberg finished fifth for WilliamsF1 with Felipe Massa (Ferrari) and Robert Kubica (BMW Sauber) finishing sixth and seventh respectively. Trulli's teammate Timo Glock closed out the top eight.

Jenson Button now has 61 points out of a possible 65 after seven races in the Drivers' Championship with Barrichello on 26 points and Vettel on 29. Brawn GP still dominates the Constructors' standings with 96, nearly 40 points ahead of Red Bull Racing.


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Ad-hoc Liaison Committee meets in Oslo, Norway

June 9, 2009 The AHLC (Ad-hoc Liaison Committee) met in Oslo, Norway on June 7 and 8 to discuss the Palestinian economical situation in Oslo. Its mission is to bring the key donors of aid and relief together with the Israeli and Palestinian governments to address the current state of affairs between the two countries. The AHLC keeps track on how donor countries interact with the Palestinian authorities and how the support they provide is handled. Early on the first day, Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre and Palestinian Prime minister Salam Fayyad both expressed optimism and hope for the Palestinian situation. Minister Støre underlined the importance of continuing aid, but stated that he understood that most countries still had problems because of the world economic crisis. As for the unstable political situation in Palestine, Prime Minister Fayyad explained that "the political instability is also a reason why we need more aid."

During the second day, a press conference with Minister Støre clarified the motives of the donations saying, "It’s is important to stress that donors are not doing this as a humanitarian project. Our donor aid is a political project aim[ed] at supporting and sustaining the Palestinian Authority, a key institution in what is supposed to become an independent Palestinian state. That was the intention of the Oslo accords."

Minister Støre continued, stating, "It’s very important to stress that without a political horizon what we do as donors becomes less meaningful. So the current states of affairs where the political horizon is unclear and where we don’t have political negotiations of the two states as previous commitments indicates and obligate the party’s. Donors start to change their stand and other agendas get the upper hand. So in 2009 at this present stage, donors have only delivered half the amount they had at this time last year. You can leave that up to the financial crisis, but at the big donor conferences in Paris December 2007, and Sharm el-Sheikh February 2009 there were pledges enough to carry this through."

On the question if the donor countries had offered to give any immediate financial relief, Minister Støre said “This has to be stressed, [this] has not been a pledging conference. This has not been a donor conference where governments have been invited to come and make new pledges, as I said if everybody lived by their Paris pledges in December 2007, which were three year pledges, we are exactly half way in that, we would have been more or less fine. But I think we have seen a forthcoming approach by some delegations, I will not name them or put a figure on it but I think it follows from what the prime minister and I have together have expressed here that there is an urgent need.”

A new meeting has been scheduled for September in New York, New York in conjunction with the United Nations General Assembly.


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Notes on sources: Received the following press invitations from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs: Foreign department Press releases: Nr.: Unr./09 07.06.2009 http://www.regjeringen.no/nb/dep/ud/pressesenter/pressemeldinger/2009/ahlc-2.html?id=565125 Foreign department Press releases: Nr.: Unr./09 07.06.2009 http://www.regjeringen.no/nb/dep/ud/pressesenter/pressemeldinger/2009/ahlc.html?id=565085

Other information in this article where acquired thru: Information from department representative. Recording from the second press conference. A one question interview with Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre and Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad. Notes taken from the first and second Press conference Information shared by other journalist on site.


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