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Comments:Church of Scientology: '"Anonymous' will be stopped"

Lol
You can't stop the rock.

scientology petitions
There are 6 petitions with regard to scientology that British citizens and/or residents can sign on line by going to the Downing Street website:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/StopNarconon/ http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/scientologyno/ http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/-Scientology/ http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/anti-scientology/ http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/PoliceandCoS/ http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ScientologyNMW/#detail —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joe2008 (talk • contribs) 09:12, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Stop
There's no reason for these stories to be 2-5 times as long as all the other non-interview stories on WikiNews. Feel free to include links to the sources, but can you please keep it to the cogent details? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.88.255.240 (talk) 09:41, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It would be better were the other stories longer, not these ones shorter. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:15, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Second. Seconded? Ditto... ^_^; Jihiro 14:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

From: Ryan Hannity
From: Ryan Hannity

[this is not to address the illegality/legality of distributed denial of service attacks or whether or not they even happened.]

What we are seeing here today is nothing short of a social-event unseen since the 1960s and 1970s. Young people for the first time in almost forty years are mobilizing with great speed and maturity to rally behind a cause which they believe in. Do I feel it's a worthless or foolish cause to get behind? If you had told me that a large group of generation-x and generation-y's would be coming together with much older individuals than themselves to rally behind a cause like this I might have told you that you were a lunatic a month ago. However, this does not seem to be the case and the protests in Orlando Florida are supportive of this fact.

Should the Church of Scientology International be demonized? Perhaps not for world history is replete with examples of religious institutions abusing their power over those who trust and believe in them. Most of these religions though when questioned about their seedy and un-palpable past will almost always tell you the skinny on what happened, where it happened and why. This begs the question to me - why does the Church of Scientology International not feel the responsibility to do the same. So what, Mary Sue Hubbard went to prison - people HAVE died; does this not happen in every religion? I saw a video on YouTube the other day where a young man was questioning demonstrators in New York City, rather than admit to the mistakes made in years past, he uttered phrases like "She just went in there to talk to them" or "You heard it all wrong, come in and we'll tell you about it".

I guess perhaps I have never seen an institution wherein the majority of parishioners who consume information from said institution have the facts so utterly and despicably incorrect. I suppose it's almost like the debacle FoxNews has these days where the majority of their views according to an AP news poll stated [incorrectly] that weapons of mass-destruction WERE found in Iraq and that indeed, Saddam Hussein had been discovered as an affiliate of Usama Bin-Laden when indeed the polar opposite was true.

Perhaps some day we will live in a world where everyone takes blame for their problems and admits to the hard-facts presented to them. Until then I suppose we'll all walk around with blinders on hoping no one figures out what we're really doing in the cookie jar. Let me give you a hint ...it's unseemly and probably illegal.

I'd also like to add that you should indeed contact the Church of Scientology International. The only way for you to be a true journalist is to have both halves of the story; perhaps the story you get on either side is incorrect in some ways at least you can still claim you have it. (preceding unsigned comment by 193.125.37.100)
 * I have made considerable efforts to contact the Church of Scientology. The emails on the talk page are evidence of that. I initially ended up using a web contact form that asked everything except my dick size, the result of the conversation this provoked is the article this comment page is associated with. When I said I was going to quote the person who I was conversing with it was "OMFG! I never noticed the 25' high letters saying Journalist" and I was pointed at an address that goes to /dev/null somewhere in the bowels of the Church's Californian headquarters. They have been offered multiple opportunities to give their side of the story - I just WILL NOT pick up the phone to call them. If one person can answer email then so can the muppet on the press address. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:05, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

funny comment at alt.religion.scientology
Here is a funny comment from alt.religion.scientology in response to this story: Trying to stop anonymous is like trying to eat tomato soup with a fork. (user "Dianetics") Cheers, Cirt 15:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Scientologists are delusional.
Scientologists should be treated as if they are plugged into the matrix and we are the ones that must unplug them.

If any of you want an effective logical argument against Scientology/Scientologists then memorize this:

L. Ron. Hubbard, obviously a talented Science Fiction writer and obviously a delusional man created Scientology based on his own personal life experience.

If Scientology is true and the events L. Ron. Hubbard described in his books actually occurred then how could he have known that the events ever occurred at all if the events occurred so long ago? and why did L. Ron. Hubbard base Scientology on his own personal life experience with Psychiatry and Psychology? Isn't religion suppose to be an approach to some form of commonly sought enlightenment that appeals to people in the same mindset because of the humans inability to accept that nothing occurs after death? Why is Scientology so biased then?

Where is the proof that the events L. Ron. Hubbard wrote about actually occurred? and why is Scientology so similar to Christianity if the events L. Ron. Hubbard wrote about actually occurred? Isn't Scientology an original religion? If so then why is it so similar to other religions?

Why do Scientologists keep their doctorate secret from lower ranking Scientologists if Scientology is "98%" similar to Christianity (and no your religions texts do not amount to very large).

One of the secrets of Scientology is this:

The designer of Scientology designed Scientology to be a corporation hiding behind religious status to exploit tax-exemption programs and people. Those that join Scientology are people that have major personal, mental disorders and only join Scientology due to the fact that they desire relief from their disorders but quickly realize that Scientology is only after their personal funds.

That is all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.83.127.79 (talk) 20:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Well.....
It certainly makes an interesting story! Various individuals groups trying to take out an international organization. Espionage and counter-espionage abound! :U Fephisto 23:44, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

To RYAN HANNITY

I have been a Scientologist for 41 years quite happily and still am today. I will answer your questions about Scientology to the best of my knowledge. Email: excelmgmt@sbcglobal.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.203.125 (talk) 00:13, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * How much has it cost you so far? I bet no where near the enlightenment area...unless you got 385,000 US dollars. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 05:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Stop the hacking -- let them sound like idiots
Paraphrasing a John Locke axiom: The best way to prevent a fool from gathering a following is to let them speak, and give them as much attention as possible. Trying to suppress them only makes them more appealing--the "forbidden fruit" thing. Bring full attention to their stupidity, their lies, their misdeeds and their murders. Don't try to physically bring them down yourselves: convince others to turn their backs on the dangerous cult by letting them talk and bringing their dark deeds fully out into the light. --72.40.56.71 00:35, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Everyone knows...
...that Anonymous is doing it for the lulz.

Also, Anonymous does not forgive. MessedRocker (talk) 01:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

well done
very good article! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.57.46.147 (talk) 04:08, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Delusional?
"We are taking action, Anonymous will be handled and stopped, but not to the detriment of us stopping all community outreach activities. We've had people throw attacks at us in the past as they do not agree with the betterment of people. History is strewn with such people who start wars, wreak havoc etc. and they never continue to exist in the long run as their purpose is one of destruction. That's a statistical and historical fact," stated Laetitia.

First off, I would assume Anonymous is doing what they do because they believe it's for the greater good. Secondly, Scientology has a lot of "betterment" growing to do if they feel the need to vehemently attack anyone who dares to disagree with them. Hello? It's called "free will", people! Scientology would have us living like China, where pictures of Tienanmen Square are banned. And finally, if it's statistical and historical fact that "people who start wars, wreak havoc etc. never continue to exist in the long run as their purpose is one of destruction", why then, do wars continue to happen? History is, like, really long! >:) Shouldn't the warmongers have all died out by now? ^_^; Jihiro 15:11, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

For too long the teeming millions of the world have sat by and watched the cult of Scientology continue it's suppressive campaign of hate. The teeming millions are now very, very, pissed off.

Anonymous is that feeling given form.

Anonymous is everywhere and everyone. Anonymous is your neighbors. Anonymous is your friends. Anonymous is your mother, your father, your siblings, and your uncles and aunts.

Anonymous is legion.

We do not forgive.

We do not forget.

Expect us. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.194.51 (talk) 04:26, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Attacks On Scientology
Why? Does Anonamous Think They Have To Attack A Known Betterment Group, They (Anonamous) Needs Something Productive To DO Instead Of Destructive Activities.--12.207.93.55 23:29, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

LULZyeah ok —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.197.111 (talk) 18:11, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

wait what
So sorry Scientology, but when you try to stop us, we'll retort a hundred fold. We do not forgive. We do not forget. 124.188.168.143 01:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


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100 turn out in Orlando, Florida for "Anonymous" protest against Church of Scientology

February 4, 2008

A protest against the Church of Scientology organized by the Internet-based group "Anonymous" held in Orlando, Florida drew 100 people on Saturday.

The group "Anonymous" formed a movement called Project Chanology in response to what it views as suppression of freedom of speech on the Internet by the Church of Scientology. The group was initially motivated by the Church of Scientology's attempts to remove a promotional video featuring Scientologist Tom Cruise from the Internet. The Church of Scientology issued legal complaints to YouTube and to Gawker.com; YouTube took the video down, but Gawker has refused to do so.

Project Chanology participants successfully took down several Scientology websites in mid-January utilizing denial-of-service attacks. The group has organized a series of nonviolent protests to take place outside Church of Scientology centers worldwide on February 10, 2008. There are expected to be at least 217 protests taking place on the 10th outside Church of Scientology buildings around the globe, including New York City, Montreal, Houston, London, Melbourne, and Los Angeles.

Protestors at the Orlando, Florida rally held signs with messages including "Knowledge is Free Scientology Isn't", "Who Is Lisa McPherson?", "www.xenu.net", and "Honk if you hate Scientology." An unnamed organizer of the rally told the Orlando Sentinel that the group is protesting "a gross violation of the right to see free church material," referring to the Tom Cruise video the Church of Scientology attempted to suppress. According to WKMG-TV, protestors claim the Church of Scientology is a "dangerous cult" and said the organization is responsible for crimes and deaths.

Dr. Lee Sheldon of the Church of Scientology of Orlando released a statement regarding the protests: "While we recognize the right to legal protest, when such protest escalates to spreading lies and hate speech, it is a concern for everyone. We look forward to continuing to provide service to the city of Orlando and Central Florida."

According to a post from a protestor to the online newsgroup alt.religion.scientology, Scientologists complained to the police during the protest that the event should be shut down for advocating "hate speech", but the Orlando Sentinel reported that police monitored the event and made no arrests.

Mark Bunker of XenuTV.com had previously criticized Project Chanology for the denial-of-service attacks against Scientology websites, but in a YouTube video post on Sunday, Bunker spoke positively of Saturday's nonviolent protest in Florida. "I saw a video today from Orlando and there were a hundred and fifty people out on Saturday to protest and it looked like a lot of fun. Got a lot of car honks and everything looked peaceful and I want to say nice job and I hope everything goes as smoothly on February 10th. I have to say a hundred and fifty people in Orlando that's pretty impressive. Can't wait to see what happens at other cities around the country and around the world actually."


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Talk:100 turn out in Orlando, Florida for "Anonymous" protest against Church of Scientology

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Refers to material gleaned from YouTube, as well as other from non-secondary sources. Cirt 04:13, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


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Fall '08 styles at New York Fashion Week: rock 'n' roll is here to stay

February 4, 2008 The third day of New York Fashion Week debuted styles infused in '70s couture, punk and hard rock roots. Labels Herve Leger, DKNY and Rock & Republic unveiled their Fall 2008 lines, and continued the retro bent popular in the first two days of the world's largest fashion show.

Max Azria's Herve Leger label showed off his signature skintight dress in multiple styles Sunday, experimenting with knit fabric as well as coats to complement the dress. Unafraid to take risks, Azria also unveiled elaborate variations which called for sequins, ribbons and large bows, the latter of which was another nod to late '70s fashion. Model Padma Lakshmi walked the runway for Azria, as did actress Sophia Bush and singers Joss Stone and Mandy Moore.

DKNY, the main label for designer Donna Karan, took the idea of '70s couture and modernized it, deeming her Fall collection "eclectic glamour." Retro styles such as bow blouses, pants bordering on the bell-bottom design, and peasant fashions were interspersed with more modern knits, silk and plaid designs for tops, dresses and jackets, respectively.

Rock & Republic's theme was "gangster chic," and was the biggest contributor to the hard rock feel. Unlike most shows, a complete orchestra with baby grand piano set the soundtrack for the show, which unveiled designs almost exclusively in a somber black. Designer David Cardona was credited with the rock designs, which included black suits and trenchcoats, and are a departure from the high-end denim looks the label is usually known for.

New York Fashion Week runs until Friday. On Monday Carolina Herrera and Betsey Johnson are considered to be the biggest draws at Bryant Park.


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Talk:5 dead in Chicago-area store shooting

appropriateness
This article in its previous state was not up-to-the-minute in its apprisal of events and current information. The article from the Guardian is timely and has as much veracity as anything else the local police are releasing. We have every reason to believe the factualness of what the Guardian has seen fit to print, and it ought to stay in this article until new information either obviates it or debunks it. Please do not continue deleting or reverting, because the rationale in doing so is not concordant with either the facts or Wiki's standards. --Thanks, --WikiPaull

 * You're thinking of Wikipedia, where the same articles are constantly updated. Here, old articles are not edited for content after about 24 hours, and are locked from editing completely after seven days. If new information comes in after 24 hours, write a new article. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 07:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

TY, Sandman —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.119.217.2 (talk) 17:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Category
Please add the category, Category:Chicago, Illinois, to this article. Cirt - (talk) 22:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

 * ✅, thank you Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding the category. Cirt - (talk) 04:17, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Tom Cruise parody site defiant in face of Scientology threats, demands its day in court

The domain now seems to be down and parked. Any follow up on what happened?


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Talk:711chan to carry on the fight

Last Line
Perhaps a little too POV. If it is then feel free to remove it, I just couldn't help sticking it in there. Fallen-Griever 10:58, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Also an duplicate of Church of Scientology: '"Anonymous' will be stopped". DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Not a duplicate, as that article doesn't focus on 711chan and focuses on a completely different matter. The quotes I have used from that article are not looked at in detail and not followed up, hence I think they warrant a new article in order to comment on them properly. Fallen-Griever 11:29, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Everything here is a rerun of news we already did. Nothing new here. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:31, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The 711chan response was completely ignored and put to one side in the other article, whereas their original comment on "stopping the war" got it's own article. Therefore, I think this retraction too deserves it's own article so people can properly follow the course of events without having to look at an article which is seemingly unrelated (as the other article is about the CoS reponse rather than about 711chan). In fact, the 711chan stuff in the other article should probably be removed, it's just been tagged in there as if to help expand the article to a more decent length, and it hasn't been commented on properly. I consider this an expansion on something which was largely ignored rather than a repost, and I'm also going to request that the 711chan comments be removed from the other article as they serve no purpose in that article on their own without any decent commentary to support them. Fallen-Griever 11:38, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * there is no need for another article. the one is published and already there. Copying news from one article to another, does not make it a new article. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:44, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I never said this was new, I said these comments deserve their own article and I have - as such - produced said new article. If the statement "711chan calls Anonymous to stop" etc. deserved its own article then so does the retraction to that statement, if only to make sure people do not get confused about what is going on. I don't want to see such a retraction buried as if it never happened, which is essentially what has happened with this comment. Fallen-Griever 11:57, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Too much
There are already two stories on CoS up today. Can we leave off on this and have things compiled so we have more detail and a stream of news as opposed to a flood? --Brian McNeil / talk 11:27, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't really consider this a CoS article - this is more a follow-up to the 711chan story published earlier in the week than another article about the CoS. Sure, it's about 711chan's reaction to the "War on Scientology", but I wouldn't consider it in the same area. In fact, I wouldn't have used the Scientology template if an Anonymous one or a 711chan one existed. Fallen-Griever 11:34, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Publish?
No...no sources...no new news...complete copy and paste from article listed in first comment at top of page. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:59, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not supposed to be new news, it's supposed to be a more appropriate way of displaying the news. This clearly leads to less confusion over the situation at 711chan - especially since you seem to be completely against any sort of hint that Plasma might have retracted his original statement. What is it you have to hide? Stop burying the news. Republished. Fallen-Griever 12:03, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Un,ess this is NEW news, conforms to policy and such, it will not be published. There is NOTHING new here. It is ALL copy and paste. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 12:05, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You just don't get it, do you? This is an attempt to make this story (the story of 711chan's "closure") easier to follow. It clearly achieves that goal. It will also tidy up the other article to make the other article more specific to the issue it is trying to tackle. Equally, this article is sourced despite you thinking it is not. The added quotes I gave are from the 711chan website and are publically viewable on their imageboards. 711chan does not allow direct linking to specific articles, therefore you'll just have to look for them yourself. But they are there, somewhere on the /i/ board. Fallen-Griever 12:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Redirected
I redirected this to Church of Scientology: '"Anonymous' will be stopped", per above comments, per comments at the talk page for Church of Scientology: '"Anonymous' will be stopped". Cirt 12:11, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's fair enough, but if that's the case then why wasn't the title for the "711chan tells Anonymous to stop attacks" article changed when there was a shitload more support for that change than there is for this article to be redirected? Oh, wait, admins stick together right? BS. Fallen-Griever 20:02, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

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Blocked
You have been blocked for continuing to enter unsourced information into articles, and violation of the 3 revert rule. Block expires in 3 hours. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:34, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

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Comments:100 turn out in Orlando, Florida for "Anonymous" protest against Church of Scientology

Hate speech?!
Advocating hate speech? There's really only one word that could be said about that: LOL! --Kitch 12:20, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd love to see Mark Bunker debate Lee Sheldon on that topic. And apparently per Bunker's YouTube video cited in this article, he may be debating someone from the Church of Scientology on a CBC radio program, today.  Cirt 12:40, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Lies
"While we recognize the right to legal protest, when such protest escalates to spreading lies and hate speech, it is a concern for everyone. We look forward to continuing to provide service to the city of Orlando and Central Florida."

In Dianetics, it is claimed that they can cure alcoholics and physically disabled people. As for hate speech, what about dead agenting? These CoS guys are hypocrites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.146.138.107 (talk) 19:01, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

good for you, god i H.A.T.E scientology wat a load of shit i swer.


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Irish airline Ryanair shares fall by 12% following profit warning

February 4, 2008 Irish airline Ryanair took a 12% slump in this morning’s trade, further intensifying concern about poor market conditions amid recessionary fears. Today, Ryanair announced a 27% drop in pre-tax profits in its third quarter net profits. Further falls are predicted for the company in its next fiscal year.

"With oil prices at $90 a barrel and fear of recession in the UK and many other European economies, the current outlook for the coming fiscal year is poor. While it is impossible to accurately forecast full year fuel prices and yields this far in advance, there is now a significant chance that profits may decline next year," Ryanair CEO Michael O'Leary cautioned.

Ryanair said that it is not hedged against oil price increases for the next fiscal year.

However, Ryanair is not the only airline to suffer from the economic downturn. Aer Lingus shares are down 3% to €2.30. Easyjet has declined 11%. However shrewd, Mr. O’Leary has plans to spend up to 200 million purchasing back shares in the company, which equates to 3% of the company share capital.


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Naked Is The New Way To Fly

A German Travel agency has launched a ‘naked package’, where by customers can fly naked to their favourite nudist holiday resorts. Ossiurlaub.de aim to open up a new niche market, which will appeal to people’s desire to go ‘eau natural’.

The first destination takes off from Erfurt to the Baltic Sea resort of Usedom. The fares for these alternative flights are €499. This fare is more expensive than the mainstream flights, however managing director Enrico Hess has explained that the high cost is due the small size of the plane. However, as the market grows, the fares will become more and more reasonable.

This novel idea has previously been piloted by Naked Air in the U.SA, and proved to be highly successful as well as controversial. The company maintained the policy that ‘the only thing you wear is a seatbelt’. Whilst many take the Ossiurlaub.de venture with open arms, many critics feel that any complications in flying can cause more distress for passengers. If an emergency evacuation took place, the friction burns on the arms and the legs could be painstakingly sore. For safety reasons, the fifty five passengers will have to remain clothed during take off and dress before disembarking the plane. Despite the oddness and the raunchiness of its appeal, Mr. Hess stressed that it is a perfectly normal holiday company.

'I don't want people to get the wrong idea. It's not that we're starting a swinger club in mid-air or something like that.'

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Comments:New York Giants upset New England Patriots' quest for perfect season

WHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY Why Why Why Why why why why. IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS!!! --TUFKAAP 14:39, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


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Poland defeats Finland 1-0 in friendly football match

February 4, 2008

The Polish national football team has defeated the Finnish equivalent in a friendly football match in Paphos, Cyprus.

The match was held as part of a four-nation, five-day tournament in front of 600 people, mostly supporters of Poland. The latter side was largely experimental as coach Leo Beenhakker is using the tournament, in which Poland will play two matches, to test new players. “This was a fine test,” he commented after the match.

The only goal was scored by Adam Kokoszka after 43 minutes. In the 65th minute Kokoszka got another shot clear of Finland goalkeeper Henri Sillanpaa but it was cleared.

As well as Finland and Poland the tournament features Greece and the Czech Republic. Finland are the only country of these not to be going to Euro 2008; Poland and the Czech Republic have qualified, and Greece is the current champion.


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Google finds Microsoft bid for Yahoo 'troubling'

February 4, 2008 Google has said on its blog that it finds Microsoft’s attempt to buy Yahoo "troubling," and that Google believes "this [the purchase of Yahoo] is about more than simply a financial transaction, one company taking over another."

"The hostile bid by Microsoft to Yahoo is worrying," said David Drummond, the chief legal officer for Google. He continued by saying the takeover is "about preserving the underlying principles of the Internet: openness and innovation."

Press agency Europa Press said that Eric E. Schmidt and Jerry Yang know that the "possibility of launching a counter is not possible for Google."

Yahoo said that their executives are examining the offer from Microsoft, a process that they said may take some time.

The Google blog cited Microsoft’s alleged "inappropriate and illegal influence over the PC," as the reasons for their concerns. They continued by saying that “Microsoft has frequently sought to establish proprietary monopolies."


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Be MEW!

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I say, be mew!

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Talk:Google finds Microsoft bid for Yahoo 'troubling'

Who are "Schmidt" and "Yang"? StockGear 19:57, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Irony
Does anyone else find this ironic by the fact that Google took over Youtube, and has made attempts into nearly every offer of the web? E-mail, webpages, encyclopedia, etc. etc. 71.126.95.188 00:46, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


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Dude i wish i was there man..


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LDS church names Monson their new president

February 4, 2008

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints named Thomas Spencer Monson their 16th president at a press conference on Monday after being ordained the day before.

Monson, at 80 years old, succeeds Gordon B. Hinckley, who died January 27 and was buried on Saturday.

"Hinckley's passing has affected all of us," Monson said at the press conference held at the Church Office Building in Salt Lake City, Utah. "We shall miss him, yet he has left us with a wonderful legacy."

Monson says he intends to continue Hinckley's legacy, and that he expects "no abrupt changes from the courses [the church] [has] been pursuing."

Monson named Henry B. Eyring and Dieter F. Uchtdorf the First and Second Counselors, respectively, of the First Presidency, which is the highest governing body of the church.

"I learned quickly in the church that we're not representing a nation or country or ethnic group," said Uchtdorf, a native German. "We are ... representing the Church of Jesus Christ."

The LDS church follows a pattern of succession in choosing a new president. When the president dies, the President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles is handed the position. Boyd K. Packer will now serve as President of the Quorum, after years of serving as the Quorum's acting president.

Monson simultaneously served as both First Counselor and President of the Quorum under Hinckney's administration due to his seniority. He also served as Second Counselor under the previous two presidents of the church. He was first called to be an apostle in 1963 at the age of 36.


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Photos
Interesting photos. Where were they taken? --SVTCobra 20:37, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Toronto, Canada - last year. Sherurcij 02:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Should that be in the captions? And even if not, perhaps on the images' pages at Commons.--SVTCobra 02:57, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Sherurcij 08:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Poland defeats Finland 1-0 in friendly football match

DEATH to the Fins!
Oh wait. It's just a game. -161.88.255.240 20:39, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Google finds Microsoft bid for Yahoo 'troubling'

I'm glad at least Google will stand up and say this is bullshit. The last thing we need is Microsoft trying harder to take over the internet. Perhaps if Google cannot afford to buy out Yahoo!, maybe they should merge.
 * I agree with you that Microsoft should not take over the internet but having the worlds 2 biggest search engines merging will weaken competition which means the experience for the consumer will be of a lower quality. I think these are the 2 most visited sites in the world so I am not even sure of the government would allow it. I don't think they would here in the UK. --Anonymous10116:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Microsoft and others.
There's several ways to go about securing a "property" monopoly.

Nintendo is fond of licensing, and as a result, they've lost their dominance over the video-game console market.

Microsoft has been accused, and litigated against for bundling its internet explorer software with its operating system. Since then, both primary complainer Netscape and Internet Explorer have lost out the lion's share of browser use to Google.

As much as I dislike Microsoft, and tear my hair out with frustration when I'm on a vista machine and I can't do something because the retarded O.S. distrusts user-input and flat-out denies the administrator to change a file's read-only properties... I just don't see this as either a serious threat to google, nor a real gain for Microsoft.

The real thing to be watching is the XBOX 360, and whether or not Nintendo ends up getting edged out of the American console market by microsoft.

This browser stuff is just nonsense. If you want to use internet explorer and be barraged with a bunch of stupid ads, go ahead... but don't expect google to continue to maintain its current blankness. They have already added toolbars up the wazoo, just like yahoo did, and they too will be sneaking all sorts of unnecessary crap on your computer before long. An informed user can easily strip away these sneaky bits of code, but your grandmother's machine will continue to get clogged with addons and spyware.

Vista sucks, but Macs suck worse. If you care, go linux; if you don't, go mac. Everyone else should keep using XP until something better comes out. What browser you use is completely pointless. Go perform the same search on yahoo, msn, and google, and I'm sure you'll see the same sites in nearly the same find order. They all have the same features. I use google because I hate the tabloid-esque main page of msn. If you have another preference, so be it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.207.127.233 (talk) 20:15, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


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Texans vote online for new license plate

February 4, 2008 For the first time in Texas's history, the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) is conducting an online vote to help decide which license plate design the state will use beginning in early 2009.

The week-long vote is being held at dot.state.tx.us. It started Monday at noon and will end on February 11 at the same time. Anyone can vote for one of five license plate designs, including the current design.

The designs are:

 * Traditional Texas — This simple design features blue highlights at the top and bottom and a gold star.
 * Lone Star Texas — This design uses a mountainous landscape under a bright, cloudy sky as its background. In the top left corner is a white star amid a splash of red and blue.
 * Natural Texas — The background is a field filled with wildflowers.
 * New Texas — This red, white and blue design features a skyline composed of landmarks from major Texas cities including Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio. A large gold star is faintly visible in the background.
 * My Texas — This is the current license plate that was introduced in 2000. It features silhouettes of a desert landscape with an oil derrick and a man on horseback, as well as a starry night sky with a space shuttle.

All of the designs incorporate the state's name, an outline of the state, and the state's nickname, "The Lone Star State". TxDOT says they took legibility and reflectivity into account when making the designs, in order to promote safety and law enforcement.

The decision to allow a public vote was made because the state was running out of six-character combinations to assign to drivers. The new license plates will have seven characters, regardless of the public's decision.

"By the end of this year, we will be out of license plate combinations for the three letters and three numbers that we currently put on the general-issue plate," said Rebecca Davio, director of Vehicle Titles and Registration. "Because we need to change the plate, we thought it was the perfect time to invite Texans to participate in a design selection."

According to TxDOT, it took 33 years to exhaust the number of six-character combinations, and using current population growth figures, they project it will take 35 years to run out of seven-character combinations.

The Texas Transportation Commission must give final approval of the design. TxDOT says the commission is "enthusiastic" about giving the public an opportunity to vote for the new design.

TxDOT considered allowing the public to submit designs, but ultimately decided that it would use a "substantial amount of state-worker time" and wouldn't be a "prudent use of taxpayer money".

At the time of this writing, an unofficial vote count showed the "Lone Star Texas" design in first place with over 22,000 votes. "Natural Texas" was second with over 14,000, followed by "Traditional Texas", "New Texas", and the current design "My Texas".


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Looked at the vote totals online as well as their FAQ. ~Planoneck~ 23:20, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


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Thousands march against the FARC-EP

February 4, 2008

Thousands of people in more than 160 cities around the world marched today in protest of the actions of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC). The protests were convoked via the popular social networking website Facebook under the name "One million voices against the FARC" (Spanish: Un millón de voces contra las FARC).

The majority of the protesters gathered in Colombian departments, such as Bogotá, and in the cities of Caracas and Maracaibo, in Venezuela.

The protests kicked off with Atlanta, Georgia, USA, and were followed by Beijing, Sydney, Tokyo, Singapore, and Paris.

The protests were organized by a movement called "I am Colombia" (Spanish: Colombia Soy Yo), under the motto "No more kidnappings, no more lies, no more deaths, no more FARC."

The FARC is a Marxist-Leninist guerrilla organization, considered a terrorist group by more than 30 countries around the world, and has more than 8,000 members occupying almost 20% of Colombia's territory. It claims to represent the rural poor in a struggle against Colombia's wealthier classes and opposes United States influence over the country.

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Comments:LDS church names Monson their new president

the last line of this article seems slightly biased

Follow the Prophet.
So grateful to know that President Monson is the President of the LDS Church. His example, guidance and teachings have always inspired me to be a better person. I am ever grateful for all that I have learnt through his teachings. -Gabrielle —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.115.84 (talk) 01:39, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


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Furor continues a week after Rep. Brown-Waite's "foreign" comment

February 5, 2008 The Orlando Sentinel published a scathing editorial rebuke of Ginny Brown-Waite in its Monday edition. The editorial specifically addressed comments made by the lawmaker last week that Puerto Ricans are "foreign citizens" and therefore should not receive tax rebate checks from the United States government.

In a press release sent out last Tuesday, Rep. Brown-Waite (R-FL) said, "...The bill sends hundreds of millions of dollars to people who do not pay federal income taxes, including residents of Puerto Rico and territories like Guam. I do not believe American taxpayer funds should be sent to foreign citizens who do not pay taxes. Americans want an economic stimulus for Dunnellon, Brooksville and Clermont, not for San Juan or Hagåtña. As the legislation moves forward, it must be changed to ensure that only federal taxpaying American citizens receive rebate checks."

Rep. Brown-Waite represents the fifth congressional district of Florida, which covers much of the Tampa Bay and Orlando metropolitan areas, which are home to sizable numbers of Puerto Ricans. Puerto Rico is a commonwealth, or an unincorporated organized territory, of the United States. While Puerto Rico natives do not pay federal income tax if they are non-Federal employees, they do pay toward Social Security, Medicare and other salaried taxes. Puerto Ricans have been citizens of the United States since the passing of the Jones-Shafroth Act in 1917. Also mentioned in Rep. Brown-Waite's statement are residents of Guam, who do pay taxes but the revenues stay on the island, located in the western Pacific. Guamanians have been American citizens since 1950.

Eduardo Bhatia, the Washington, D.C.-based representative for the Governor of Puerto Rico, wrote a letter to Rep. Brown-Waite condemning her remarks. "Your comments...published in the Orlando Sentinel complaining that Puerto Ricans are 'foreign citizens' and should not benefit from the federal economic stimulus plan were not only wrong but also highly insensitive," Bhatia wrote, continuing on to hypothesize that her remarks "stemmed from sheer ignorance about Puerto Rico." After making that remark, Bhatia went on to chastise Rep. Brown-Waite's press release further, citing that there are over two million Puerto Ricans living in New York and Florida, the state Rep. Brown-Waite is from and the state she represents in Congress, respectively.

José Aponte, the Speaker of the House of Representatives of Puerto Rico, also condemned Brown-Waite and her remarks, asking for a full apology to Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans living in the United States. "Congresswoman Brown-Waite's statement is infuriating and contradictory as it pertains to four million of her fellow American citizens that live in our island...the distorted perception she has of Puerto Ricans is incredible given that she is part of a state with a large population of Hispanics of which close to a million are Puerto Ricans."

The Puerto Rican community in Central Florida, which numbers 220,000 in the Orlando area alone, were livid after hearing of Brown-Waite's remarks. "She is an ignoramus," said Emilio Pérez, president of the Puerto Rican Chamber of Commerce of Central Florida. "I think we should make an example of her. Puerto Ricans should unite to support whoever is running against her in the next election." Zulma Vélez Estrada, a Puerto Rican activist in Kissimmee, called for protests in an open letter she wrote to the Puerto Rican community. "Are we going to consent to this nonsense or are we going to stand for our dignity and demonstrate our place in history, and in this community?"

However, it was The Orlando Sentinel that had a sizable say in Monday's edition, dedicating their second editorial column in the past five days to Rep. Brown-Waite and her remarks. "It's bad enough that an elected official serving in Washington should be so clueless, but Mrs. Brown-Waite then became defiant when she was called out on her historical hiccup," the editorial stated, which represents the majority opinion of the editorial board at Central Florida's largest newspaper. The Sentinel goes on to claim that her press representative remarked that her comments were "fine as is." "No, it isn't," the editorial read. "It's embarrassing that a U.S. congresswoman can't get her facts straight on who's a U.S. citizen."

It still remains to be seen what avenue Rep. Brown-Waite will take next, if any, to repair the rift her remarks caused with many of her constituents.


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UK shopping centre Afflecks Palace secures its future

February 5, 2008 Afflecks Palace, the "iconic, alternative shopping centre" in the Northern Quarter of Manchester in England, United Kingdom, was saved from closure this week after long-running rumours that the market may have to "kick out its traders" due to a dispute between the management of the Afflecks Palace brand and the leaseowner for the building, Bruntwood.

Rumours suggesting that Bruntwood were looking to redevelop the building started early in 2007, when it became apparent that the property developer was not actively seeking to renew the twenty-five year lease that the management of Afflecks Palace had with them concerning the building. These initial fears were added to by news that Bruntwood was looking to redevelop other buildings it owned in the Northern Quarter area, specifically the parking complex opposite Afflecks, with an eye towards taking advantage of the "property boom" in Manchester at the time. There were also fears that if Afflecks did remain open, "rents would rise".

These initial fears were eventually propagated closer to the end of the year when a letter from the management of Afflecks Palace told individual stall holders that "... management have received no formal response from Bruntwood to a tenancy request notice served in October [2007]", going on to add that "We can only assume therefore that they do not intend to offer us a new lease".

Following the release of this letter, public support for Afflecks Palace was quickly made obvious when a 5,000 signature petition was submitted demanding the centre remain open for business. This seemed to prompt talks between Bruntwood and the Afflecks Palace management and, eventually, lead to this week's news that the market was - indeed - to remain open. The result of the talks was that Bruntwood "bought out" the Afflecks Palace brand.

A joint statement between the management of Afflecks Palace and Bruntwood said: "After 26 years of trading, Afflecks' management has sold their company to Bruntwood in an agreement that protects the future of Afflecks. Bruntwood will manage Afflecks while they look for a new owner who is skilled in running market style businesses and can bring a similar level of enthusiasm and dedication that the existing management has."

A spokesperson speaking on behalf of Bruntwood also added that: "Never in our 30 year history have we bought one of our customer's businesses, but Afflecks is a Manchester icon that we wanted to protect. We aren't however expert in managing markets, so will look for a suitable long term owner. In the meantime, the most important aspect is that we have arrived at a solution with Afflecks management that protects an independent retail environment and provides the existing stallholders with security."

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Publish
There are probably a couple more obvious mistakes in there that I've missed, so if anyone picks any out then thanks to them for that. I think it's ready to be published, though, so I'm going to do that after picking out any other obvious edits I want to make. Fallen-Griever 00:53, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


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Talk:Furor continues a week after Rep. Brown-Waite's "foreign" comment

Use of editorial
I question the use of the editorial as "the final say" in the matter. Also, the exclusive use of the Orlando Sentinel as source material opens questions. This can't be the only newspaper in Orlando. --SVTCobra 02:14, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The Sentinel is the only major paper in Orlando and the main paper for most of Central Florida.

 * The Orlando Sentinel is the primary newspaper of the Orlando, Florida region. It was founded in 1876 and is currently in its 131st year of publication. The Sentinel is owned by Tribune Company and is overseen by the Chicago Tribune. As of 2005, the Sentinel’s president and publisher is Kathleen Waltz. TheCustomOfLife 02:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Would it be so bad to add the St. Petersburg Times and their piece, Wrongheaded remark warrants swift apology, even if it too is an editorial? For some other coverage you can also find Brown-Waite asked to apologize for 'foreign citizens' remark in the Pacific Daily News. Just suggesting other independent material. --SVTCobra 02:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Would it be bad? Not at all. I didn't add those because I couldn't find them in my search. Please try to AGF. TheCustomOfLife 04:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

 * There is absolutely nothing wrong with using editorials as a source when their opinion is clearly attributed. In my opinion the article reads well and represents all sides fairly. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:08, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


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Kansas library discusses Wikipedia

February 5, 2008

A diverse group of approximately 25 people gathered at the Johnson County Library on Monday to participate in reference librarian Scott Vieira’s class, ''Wikiwhatia? Wikipedia''.

Scott opened the session by sharing a disparaging quote from Robert McHenry (former editor-in-chief of Encyclopedia Britannica) comparing Wikipedia to a public restroom. He then shared a quote from Andrew Keen, author of The Cult of the Amateur, in which he stated Wikipedia is the blind leading the blind. Scott shared Wikipedia usage data from a 2007 Pew Internet study showing 36% of adults have consulted Wikipedia and that that Wikipedia receives 10,000-30,000 searches per second. Scott also pointed out that Wikipedia now has over two million articles in English alone (over nine million articles in 250 languages). So there is a discrepancy here, lots of critics and lots of use.

Scott then shared some historical information in order to provide a context for understanding Wikipedia. This included some important names and dates in the history of encyclopedias… including Pliny the Elder (23-79 C.E.) who published 37 Volumes of Natural History, and Joachim Sterck van Ringelbergh (c. 1499-1556) who first used the term encyclopedia, and then d’Alembert and Diderot who published 17 volumes of their French Encyclopedia from 1751-1765. Encyclopedia Britannica was first published in Scotland in serial format 1768-1771.

Why history matters -- copyright and piracy, censorship, authority, organization, and content are all issues that are relevant.
Scott also discussed more recent history, sharing a photo of Ward Cunningham –who is credited with being the inventor of wiki software. Wikipedia was founded on Jan 15, 2001 by Larry Sanger and Jimmy Wales. Sanger left Wikipedia in 2002 and founded Citizendium in 2007 a complementary project which now has 4500 articles.

After the historical perspective, the class moved into using Wikipedia. Everyone in the audience had used Wikipedia. The class explored the content of Wikipedia, realising there is a whole lot going on. Scott demonstrated that the article about "frogs" for example, is semi-protected. The "history of science" article was examined, including the history of changes. Discussion covered how people contribute, who contributes and edits. The group also talked about Wikipedia bots, which aid in routine tasks in a semi-automated or automated fashion.

A discussion about teachers, school media specialists and students regarding their use of Wikipedia ensued. Some teachers and school media specialists are negative about Wikipedia, but Scott's hope is that they will use it to start a discussion about the need to evaluate and critically think about information (even when it's from more traditionally reviewed and edited sources).

An unanswered question from an audience member was, "What was the first Wikipedia article?"

Discussion topics from Scott to audience were as follows:
 * Do you think Wikipedia is less accurate than published resources and how important is that accuracy to you?
 * How do we determine authority on a subject? How important is it that an article be written by an expert? How is Wikipedia changing our idea of what an authority is?
 * Currency – the ability to publish immediately – what are the advantages and what are the disadvantages?
 * What do we think about the content selection in Wikipedia?
 * Should Wikipedia be used by librarians?
 * What do you think about the future of Wikipedia?

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Comments:Furor continues a week after Rep. Brown-Waite's "foreign" comment

Left-wing bias anybody?
She wasn't spreading hate speech. She was just pointing out that residents of Puerto Rico don't pay income taxes, so she feels they shouldn't get a refund they are not due, just as illegal immigrants shouldn't get a refund they are not due since they don't pay taxes. --Kitch 03:42, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * She said "foreign citizens," which they're not. And I'm actually a registered Republican, so you can kindly stop with accusations on my writing or what you perceive my politics to be. Thanks! TheCustomOfLife 04:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

 * It appears to be just a matter of an official completely screwing up a matter of established fact and then refusing to issue a correction. She could be meaning something else, but if that's the case it appears that she hasn't done a very good job of getting it across (IE. If she thinks they are really "foreign" and should be classed as such, she would need to say something like that ("... should repeal the Jones Law."). 68.39.174.238 15:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I think she did herself in...
I'm going to bet that more or less, she's finished this year in Congress. Alienating a major minority in your constituency is a guranteed way to lose your seat. --TUFKAAP 04:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * A lot of her constituents are also in rural areas, where those kinds of comments, insensitive as they may be, do pretty much sum up opinion there. She'll have a hard time keeping her seat even with her supporters behind her, I believe. TheCustomOfLife 04:37, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I think she 'got it right'
Upon reflection I think the Hon. Congresswoman got it right. They are 'foreign citizens' - the term at first caught my eye as a probably 'poor use of English', but upon consideration it may be the most correct term available.

Unlike 'Domestic Citizens' they either don't pay federal income tax, OR have it retained for local use only.

Could some one explain to me why she should apologize for getting the facts straight?

24.129.114.64 05:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a bad choice of wording, I believe. When the Sentinel told her that her wording was poor and showed her that her words meant this, and they were untrue, the Congress-y thing to do would have been to release a clarification. She didn't do that, which just inflamed people further. TheCustomOfLife 05:08, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

 * The 'domestic citizen' vs. 'foreign citizen' seems almost exactly like the wording used by the IRS to determine tax status. foreign citizen ISN'T foreign national. (I'm Bo, just not signed in..) 24.129.114.64 05:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I can sympathize, but you know, her point was also to go "Americans need the money HERE, not THERE." Those words can be (and were) interpreted in an offensive manner. Personally, I can see both sides. She handled it very badly, though. When a sizable minority of her constituency wanted her blood in unison due to her words, that's not really the time for her to get indignant over semantics.

TheCustomOfLife 05:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * But her constituents are those HERE not THERE ! When a 'sizable minority' want her blood for indicating that taxes collected 'HERE' should stay 'HERE' (like happens normally in Guam), not be sent to places where they aren't collected (PR), it may be exactly the right time to stand up for truth and the proper (not PC) use of the English language.

 * I'm sure a better way of saying it might have been found, but I'd not recommend backing down at this point. She'll not get back the PR vote, (if she ever had it), and would likely drop some points among the 'native Americans'.  (Still Bo) 24.129.114.64 05:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Many of her constituents are Puerto Ricans, and they are very passionate about their identity, whether they are living away from the island or not. I don't think anyone, you, I, or anyone else should tell them they're "wrong" for feeling that way. We're not them. TheCustomOfLife 05:57, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, that isn't the point you first brought up. Your first point was that she was 'wrong' in identifying Puerto Ricans as 'foreign citizens' - when in fact residents of Puerto Rico are 'distinct' in fact and in law from 'domestic citizens'.

 * How you can say I don't have right to tell the 'Puerto Ricans' that they are 'wrong' when they wish to export income tax dollars to a commonwealth that doesn't pay into the income tax system, while feeling perfectly at east telling the Congresswoman she is 'wrong' to publicly comment on their special tax status.

 * I have no problem telling them it is wrong to expect my income tax dollars to be exported to a commonwealth whose citizens don't pay into the income tax system.

 * By-the-way, wouldn't they have had to become, at least technically, Floridians to be her constituents? You can't still be 'Georgian' and vote in a Florida Congressional election - but I suppose that may be another way the citizens of the 'commonwealth in free association' with the US is different from the 'Domestic Citizen'.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.129.114.64 (talk) 06:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)  (sorry, I'm still Bo!)

Unfortunetly Bo, your are as confused with the English language as the congresswoman. Luckily for us, you can retain your citizenship and still not know the english language. So lets drop the politics and get down and dirty with, I don't know, how about the definitions of the words the congresswoman used (and the one you addded "national" and "domestic") for•eign–adjective of, pertaining to, or derived from another country or nation; not native: foreign cars. do•mes•tic-adjective of or pertaining to one's own or a particular country as apart from other countries: domestic trade. cit•i•zen–noun a native or naturalized member of a state or nation who owes allegiance to its government and is entitled to its protection: (distinguished from alien) na•tion•al–noun a citizen or subject of a particular nation who is entitled to its protection: U.S. nationals living abroad. : U.S. nationals living abroad. hmmm. It would seem to me that taxation has nothing to do with citizenship. Additionally it seems that national and citizen are synomus. Let me know if you need me to define that word as well. So the term "foregin citizen" as you try to describe as a foreginer American is actaully nonsense. Let me define that for you: non•sense-noun: 1. words that make no sense. 2. foolish or unacceptable behaviour. 3. an absurd or unthinkable scheme, situation, etc. So it can only be interpeted (if you care about the english language and all) is to mean a citizen of a foreign country... which Puerto Ricans, Guamanians, and everyone else the congresswoman was refering to are not, per US law. Sorry folks, no matter how you spin it the congresswoman was wrong. -- I do not know how to sign but I want to... I am more adept and the Enlish language than wikinews

Liberal or conservative, most people wouldn't consider Puerto Ricans to be citizens. I see no problem with her comment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.2.193.1 (talk) 14:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Is that because of a sincere belief of that, or because PR (Along with the even LESSER known USVI) is rarely brought up or remembered (A genuine question, I'm not being rhetorical)? 68.39.174.238 15:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

RIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is all. -161.88.255.240 15:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Guam, a U.S. Territory, home of American citizens
Are you kidding me?!

Tax rebate or no tax rebate.......what is most offensive is the remark referring to Guamanians (and Puerto Ricans) as "foreign citizens." Guam, a small island in the middle of the south pacific, has incredible strategic significance for the United States. The island, which is only 30 square miles in size, will soon be home to approximately 20,000 marines via Okinawa. This means practically a 20% increase in population that local residents have no choice but to support. Not to mention multitudes of young Guamanian men that have enlisted their lives to serve with in the U.S. military to protect life and liberty. Approximately 1/3 of the island is owned by and dedicated to U.S. military use, including pristine beachfront and cliffline properties considered to be the most valuable and sought after real estate. These sacrifices on the part of the Guamanian (and Puerto Rican) people should be proof enough of their patriotism. The remark that Guam (and Puerto Rico) residents are foreign citizens indicates the most embarrassing kind of ignorance on the part of U.S. Rep. Brown-Waite. A formal apology should be sent to the citizens of Puerto Rico and Guam who are just as American as Rep. Brown-Waite herself.

Born and bred American.... Beverly Brady, Tumon, Guam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.123.148.65 (talk) 03:35, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Ginny Brown-Waite Comments
I am totally upset at Mrs Waite's comments toward U.S. citizens that she has labeled "Foreign". I am a native of Guam, a U.S. territory which on my birth certificate it indicates that I am a U.S. citizen, not "Foreign Citizen". Everyone of my family members and friends also have the same birth certificates that indicate they too are U.S. citizens. How could someone that is supposedly educated and responsible for making laws be so irresponsible in making such inappropricate comments like Mrs Waite? I'm sure she is smart enough to check all her facts and the fact that "Foreign Citizens" don't pay federal taxes is not true. I have paid federal taxes all my working life and continue to pay. Now I see a couple issues with Mrs Waite's comments, first she targets groups of U.S. citizens and labels them as "Foreign Citizens", secondly she makes them less important by indicating they don't deserve part of the Stimulus because they don't pay taxes, which we do. I am very disappointed with her comments and I would hope she does something to correct her remarks and give an apology to all the U.S. citizens from the U.S. territories like Puerto Rico and Guam. I'm sure this is going to be a topic of discussion during the next election year for Mrs Waite.

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2008 Juno Award nominees announced

February 6, 2008

Nominees for the 2008 Juno Awards, Canada's primary music honours, were announced in Toronto on Tuesday. Celine Dion received nominations in six categories. Five nominations apiece were given to Michael Bublé, Feist and Avril Lavigne, who also happen to be previously scheduled performers at the Juno ceremonies. Ottawa's controversial rapper Belly received nominations in both the best rap recording and best new artist categories.

Rock band Triumph will be inducted into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame at the Juno awards ceremony, to be held in Calgary on 6th April. Russell Peters will host the ceremonies which will be televised by CTV television.

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Comments:Texans vote online for new license plate

I just voted and i live in FL

 * Nice. I LOLed at work. I haven't done that for ages.
 * Way to mess with Texas. -161.88.255.240 23:08, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I've voted, too. I'm Italian and the closest place to Texas I've ever visited is England.tcp-ip 21:29, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

texas license plate vote
You could have used an American made car in the picture you showed in this article. Since the story was about a new TEXAS license plate why didnt you use a General Motors autmobile. THEY MAKE THEM IN ARLINGTON,TEXAS you know. I don't know of any Volkswagon factories in Texas.


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Talk:Kansas library discusses Wikipedia

I have a series of emails from one of the librarians and this report was done at my suggestion --Brian McNeil / talk 08:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

"The first articel"
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Fall '08 styles at New York Fashion Week: the '70s are back

February 5, 2008

The fourth day of New York Fashion Week debuted few daring designs even from designers known for such work. With few exceptions, the overwhelming theme was "old is new" and that the '70s were even more in fashion than the shows on Sunday suggested. Among the designers to unveil their Fall 2008 lines on Monday were Oscar de la Renta, Carolina Herrera, Betsey Johnson, Proenza Schouler and a rejuvenated Halston line, under the direction of designer Marco Zanini.

Both global warming and the slowing economy have been cited as reasons for the overwhelming use of lighter fabrics over heavier attire. Also, retro designs and continuing trends have been used in effort to save money, like the tights that were expected to go out of fashion this year. Even in the glamorous world of high-end fashion, money has been tight, and with the world economies in a collective downturn, major designers have been more wary of continuing to churn out the stream of couture designs that past Fashion Weeks have seen.

Proenza Schouler's show took the '70s retro theme to a fever pitch, liberally using bows on designs and debuting more retro-era wide-legged pants that were first seen in Sunday's shows. Zanini's Halston label also brought back the '70s, resurrecting old designs that the founder of the line made famous. Since the designer Halston's death in 1990, many designers have tried to take the label in different directions. Zanini's unveiling on Monday brought the line back to its Studio 54 roots, while using trenchcoats, sheer fabrics, and cardigans to finish the ensembles with a modern twist.

Betsey Johnson also debuted old and new styles on Monday, to celebrate the 30th anniversary of her fashion label. Copies of her original 1978 one-piece bathing suit as well as some early 1980s fashions started off the show. Her new pieces, such as animal print leggings coupled with a short twill jacket, were perceived as very skintight and criticized for not representing more fuller figures. Johnson brushed off the criticism, noting, "It's tighter and sexier, but I still believe the girl brings the sex to the clothes...You won't look sexy in a tight, below-the-knee skirt if you don't feel good in it."

The lone daring designer for the day was Carolina Herrera, who discarded the furs she promoted in the Fall 2007 show to focus on a Peter Pan theme, with earth tones and bird feathers. To further the "flying Peter Pan" motif, models donned such designs as a chiffon dress with ostrich feathers and a taffeta gown with a feather waistband.

Oscar de la Renta opted for more traditional blacks, golds and grays, debuting lines for men and women in fabrics he is familiar with. Men were outfitted in tweed while women were fitted in dresses that experimented with embroidery and tulle, both shades of past collections.

New York Fashion Week runs until Friday. Among others, labels Badgley Mischka, Diesel, and Vivienne Tam unveil their newest collections on Tuesday.


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Opening performance at Norway's new opera house postponed

February 5, 2008

The opening performance of 's is postponed due to security concerns. The late delivery of a critical stage control system means that the opera "Around the World in 80 Days", composed by Gisle Kverndokk, has to be rescheduled for next season.

Opera chief Bjørn Simensen announced the postponement on Monday, describing it as "dramatic." The performance that will replace "Around the World in 80 Days" is not yet announced.

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Police track kidney doctor to Brampton, Canada

February 6, 2008

The hunt for alleged kidney harvester, Dr. Amit Kumar, has led investigators to Brampton, a city in the Greater Toronto Area (GTA) of Ontario, Canada.

Indian investigators allege that Kumar is the kingpin of a ring that removed kidneys of poor laborers in India for transplantation to the highest bidding patients, usually foreigners. After a request by Indian police via an Interpol "red notice", Canadian police located a house in Brampton owned by Kumar, who has been dubbed "Dr. Horror" by the Indian press.

The house is occupied by a woman, presumed to be his wife, and two young children. Kumar purchased the 5,600 sq ft (~510 m²) home on February 2, 2007 for C$610,000. Reportedly, additional upgrades were performed at the home, including an in-ground pool, at a cost of C$100,000. The family drives an expensive SUV. The children, two boys aged 4 and 5, are said to be enrolled at private schools.

Dr. Kumar, a nephrologist, born Santosh Rameshwar Raut, was known to his neighbors. He told them that he was a cardiovascular surgeon in India, but that he wanted to buy a hotel in Canada and, after one last trip to India to tie up loose ends, permanently relocate to Canada.

"We are completely shocked," a neighbor told the Toronto Star. "We used to joke at parties that he must be loaded to get such a beautiful wife, but nothing prepared us for this." Another neighbor told the paper, "It's very unusual for someone to come here from India and buy a big house like this and a Lexus. Doctors in India just don't make that kind of money."

Meanwhile, investigators are no closer to Amit Kumar, than they were a few days ago. It is widely believed that he is trying to flee India for Canada via Nepal, a country for which he is alleged to have a passport.

Police in Mumbai, however, believe he is still in India. "He is very much in India," commissioner Rakesh Maria said on Tuesday. "We suspect he will never leave."

"He will stay in India — it won't be easy to conduct his illegal activities anywhere else," he said. "In a country like Canada, it would almost be impossible to find [kidney] donors in large numbers."

However, after a request by the Haryana state government, the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) will soon take lead in the investigation.

"We haven't yet received a final word to start investigations," CBI Director Vijay Shankar said. "We will begin working on the case as per legal process." Thus far, police in Gurgoan, Moradabad, Mumbai and Rajasthan have been investigating the case separately.

The case has called attention to medical tourism, the practice of traveling abroad for health care at more affordable rates. Kumar is alleged to have charged US$50,000 for a kidney transplant. The donors are said to have been paid the equivalent of US$1,200. Even so, the donors, according to widespread reports and testimonials, may not have realized what they were getting into when they went with a stranger for a well-paying job.

The Toronto Star interviewed a medical tourism travel agent, who operates openly. Aruna Thurairajan, who runs Overseas Medical Services in Calgary, Alberta, says that she frequently gets calls from patients in need of a kidney. Thurairajan refuses to give referrals for transplants because it "gives medical tourism a bad rap."

"Money is a big factor for people to decide where to go. Often they want to bargain how much to pay the vendor [organ donor]. Some of them can be quite selfish and mean. They think they can buy the kidney for peanuts. That's why the likes of [Amit Kumar] can prosper. So the patient should also be blamed along with him, because the patient bargains down the price," said Thurairajan.

But the victims of this illegal trade are not exclusively the poor day laborers but sometimes the clients themselves, according to a report by Hindustan Times. The investigation cited a driver for a close associate of Amit Kumar and claims that at least three foreigners died on Dr. Kumar's operating table. He was able to name three Turkish nationals who all died in India between 2003 and 2005, officially from cardiac arrest. The driver, Harpal, says that the bodies were brought to a hospital in Ballabgarh, Faridabad, where the local authorities colluded with the doctors to list the cause of death as heart failure.


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Progress M-63 freighter en route to International Space Station

February 5, 2008 Progress spacecraft M-63, serial number 363, also designated Progress 28P, has been launched by the Russian Federal Space Agency on a mission to resupply the International Space Station. Liftoff, atop a Soyuz-U carrier rocket occurred at 13:02 GMT, from Area 1/5 at the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan.

The spacecraft will dock with the space station on Thursday, a few hours ahead of the scheduled launch of Space Shuttle Atlantis on STS-122, with the Columbus module, a new laboratory which will enhance the outpost's research capabilities.

The Progress spacecraft is used to deliver supplies and experiments to the station. Typically four or five are launched each year, with the two most recently launched remaining on station, the oldest being undocked and de-orbited shortly before the arrival of a new one. However in this case, owing to the imminent Space Shuttle launch, there is currently no Progress spacecraft at the ISS, following the undocking of Progress M-62 yesterday.

Progress spacecraft, which are loose analogues of the Soyuz spacecraft, have been used as resupply craft in space station programmes since Salyut 6. Progress M-63 is the 28th Progress spacecraft to fly as part of the ISS programme.

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Comments:British Airways Flight 38 investigation focuses on fuel system

Could a passenger turning on a mobile phone (in anticipation of the impending landing) have caused interference to the plane's systems? These things can cause interference on audio circuits: could the same be true of aircraft electronics? I wonder if anyone has done a mobile phone check on passeneger's phone records?

 * No; that's now widely agreed to be paranoia that really took hold after the coincidence on Crossair Flight 498. For more details see mobile phones on aircraft; in particular pay attention to th fact that trial schemes are now apearing whereby phones can now be used, as the only proven problem concerned how the software on the ground handled it. It is still supposed to be possible in theory, but in reality there is no known instance; in particular Boeing tried and failed to replicate results using the actual devices as purchased from passengers, but failed to. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:37, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


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Wikinews Shorts: February 5, 2008

Chinese Olympic committee says internet censorship may be reduced for the Olympic Games
The Organizing Committee of the Beijing Olympic Games has stated that the amount of internet censorship in China may be reduced in China for the 2008 Olympic Games, which are due to take place in Beijing. They say that this is to allow foreign journalists access to most pages on the internet. According to Wang Hui, the director of Public Relations for the committee, says that the possibility of reducing censorship is being looked into.

China has 210 million users on the network, and has said it will overtake the United States as the country with the highest number of users, despite the blocking of thousands of sites, including Wikinews and other Wikimedia projects, by the Chinese government.

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