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A man from the Naperville, Illinois, United States area has been accused of allegedly threatening to kill his ex-girlfriend and her current boyfriend via messages posted on her Facebook account.

Nineteen-year-old Christopher J. Bensfield was arrested Jan. 28 at his home in unincorporated DuPage County near the far west-central part of Naperville. He is being held on a $12,500 bond at the DuPage County Jail in Wheaton. He is scheduled to appear at the DuPage County Circuit Court on a felony charge of harassment via electronic communication. Police Sergeant Gregg Bell said the ex-girlfriend, a Naperville-resident, asked Bensfield to stop sending the messages many times before she submitted printed copies of the threatening messages to Naperville police.

Court records indicate Bensfield is already on probation after pleading guilty last September to possession of a controlled substance. He was arrested in August 2008 after disobeying a stop sign in Naperville. Police searched his car and found marijuana and drug paraphernalia. This was the third time Benfield had been arrested for having marijuana since April 2007, when drugs were found in his possession at Naperville Central High School. Last October, a judge issued a fine and required him to join the DuPage County Sheriff's Work Alternative Program. He has also received five tickets within three months in 2008 for driving violations, including speeding, driving without insurance, transportation of an open alcohol container, and driving too fast for conditions.

Bensfield's mother also has an order of protection against him. Ms. Bensfield stated that he asked her for money in late December; he then broke into her home in Naperville's far southeast-side, punching holes in the walls and breaking various items before leaving. Christopher was arrested Dec. 29 and faced a misdemeanor charge of criminal damage to property. He "suffers from bipolar disorder and has not been taking his medication," according to information the Naperville Daily Herald has received from Ms. Bensfield.


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Whoa. :( 88.115.192.18 (talk) 12:05, 8 February 2010 (UTC)MrSonPopo
 * While I have no qualms with the death penalty, I find it unfortunate that "consolation for the victims' families" is an accepted reason for capital punishment. That's little different from state-backed revenge. I believe execution is, in extreme cases, necessary to remove the most dangerous criminals from our society for the protection of others. --Fishy c (talk) 21:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

 * State-backed revenge is as much a part of the prison system as avoidance/rehabilitation is. Usually a criminal isn't subjected to unpleasant conditions simply because revenge is desired, but both aspects are fundamental.  Life inprisonment is useful for nothing other than lifelong punishment (and creating jobs in prisons, though that was initially secondary).  I suppose it doesn't help that the system only thinks it exists for rehabilitation rather than actually trying.  Even if it were, the cases in which it doesn't work would still ensure death in a well thought out manner is the only practical or humane choice.  —70.31.58.181 (talk) 20:05, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

If this is true, it is deeply disturbing, I find the above comments to be thoroughly sickening, I can only imagine that they mustcome from a totalitarian state rather than a civilised country
 * I share your fear of totalitarianism, and your ironclad belief in the unacceptability of certain political viewpoints. Let us hope that that person will be found and punished for such statements, eh? 206.74.5.136 (talk) 06:27, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The Death Penalty, as practiced in Japan, the United states or Saudi Arabia is simply a modern incarnation of the ancient practice of Human Sacrifice.
 * So, really, it's a cultural treasure that must not be allowed to die out, lest it pass into the ether of history like so many other such treasures? Awesome. 206.74.5.136 (talk) 21:03, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Anybody who is surprised by this clearly doesn't know basic Japanese history.


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'Criminal in uniform': Senior London policeman jailed for attempting to frame Iraqi

February 8, 2010

Commander Ali Dizaei of London's Metropolitan Police Service today became the most senior officer anywhere in the United Kingdom to be convicted of offences by a court. Dizaei, who was branded a "criminal in uniform" by Independent Police Complaints Commission chair Nick Hardwick, has been jailed for four years after he attempted to frame an Iraqi businessman.

It took a Southwark Crown Court jury under three hours to find Dizaei guilty of misconduct in a public office and attempting to pervert the course of justice. The charges carried a maximum of life imprisonment.

Dizaei, 47, who is head of the National Black Police Association, had gone to the Yas Persian restaurant, run by one of his friends, and taken his wife Shy with him. They then went to their car and struck up a conversation through its open window with the restaurant's manager. During this conversation they were approached by Waad al-Baghdadi, an Iraqi website designer in his twenties. He requested that Dizaei pay £600 that he owed Baghdadi, who had constructed his website.

According to the Crown, this dispute had been ongoing for months and Dizaei had been attempting to intimidate Baghdadi. He told the Iraqi to depart when he entered the restaurant; although the businessman did, he stayed nearby and rang the 999 emergency number.

The exact content of the argument that led up to this is unclear. Dizaei and his wife testified that Baghdadi was abusive and threatening, telling the officer he would "extract the money out of your throat" while the owner of the Yas said he was "a crook basically... His history ... everybody knows he's not a good gentleman," said owner Sohrab Eshragi. Eshragi said that the request Baghdadi leave the premises was due to concerns of trouble, claiming Baghdadi had been in a previous fight. Baghdadi denied the allegations and the court rejected Dizaei's version of events.

While Baghdadi was making his emergency call, Dizaei arrested him and made a 999 call of his own. He requested assistence from other officers, and said that Baghdadi had assaulted him by stabbing his stomach with a shisha pipe. He maintained this account when police arrived and kept it up in written statements, but although Baghdadi was found to be carrying such a pipe examination of Dizaei's wounds by a police doctor concluded he had inflicted them upon himself.

A Home Office pathologist questioned this finding for the defence. Dr. Nat Cary said it was based on a "fundamentally flawed approach," and that the injuries were consistent with Dizaei's version of events. He has helped investigate the assassination of former Pakistani PM Benazir Bhutto, and the death newspaper seller Ian Thomlinson, the latter of whom died during a G20 protest.

The Crown further alleged that Dizaei told Baghdadi "I'll fuck your life... You think I don't know what you do in London... I'll find every single detail of your life in London." The prosecution case was presented by Peter Wright QC, who has prosecuted in trials over serial murders of Suffolk sex workers and a plot to bomb transatlantic airliners. He said that Dizaei's actions were a "wholesale abuse of power by a senior police officer for entirely personal and oblique motives."

Judge Justice Simon said that Dizaei had committed a "grave breach of public trust" and told him "This sentence needs to send a clear message that police officers of whatever rank are not above the law." A Crown Prosecution Service spokesman said outside the court that "He abused his power and ignored his responsibility," and that while corruption was unacceptable in any police officer it was particularly so in a senior member of the forces. "The public should have confidence that we will prosecute anyone, regardless of their position, if they commit serious offences. We believe justice has been served for the victim and the public."

"[I]f he [Dizaei] had been successful, Mr al-Baghdadi may have been sent to prison," noted Hardwick. "Mr al-Baghdadi has shown tremendous strength of character throughout this case ‑ from the moment he was confronted by Ali Dizaei, throughout our investigation, and finally when giving evidence at court. We are grateful for the confidence he placed in the IPCC and, as a result of that, justice has been done today."

Dizaei has been a policeman for 24 years, and at one stage was rumoured to be destined to take control of the Metropolitan Police, although the Metropolitan Police Authority may now choose to end this career. His trial, which began this month, is his second this decade. He was prosecuted in 2003 but cleared of any wrongdoing. The incident with Baghdadi was in June 2008 and Dizaei has been suspended on full pay since September of that year. Hardwick said that "The greatest threat to the reputation of the police service is criminals in uniform like Dizaei."


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Why the "'Criminal in uniform':" bit? --SVTCobra 23:45, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

 * It draws attention to the branding by a senior official, and in a way that interests the viewer to read on and see who said that. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

 * "Senior London policeman jailed" doesn't do that? --SVTCobra 00:19, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

 * It isn't a quote, so no. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 00:21, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

 * Eh, i don't think the "criminal in uniform" bit is really needed. It is redundant to the words "policeman jailed", which pretty much says it all imho. I don't see how it would really interest the reader much more to have that in there. Tempodivalse [talk]  00:32, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

 * I will revert back to this, up to 3RR. This is a good title. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:37, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

 * You don't see this as sensationalism? It's a tagline, at best. Is that how we are now appealing for readers? --SVTCobra 03:54, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * If the quote was fabricated, it would certainly be sensational. However, this is the words of the chair of the IPCC - you can rest assured that the words were carefully chosen. I would far prefer a balance less towards the dusty, dull-as-ditchwater, insipid, and instantly fogettable factual titles; not into Daily Mail sensationalism territory, but towards a little encouragement to prompt people to read the story when it pops up on Facebook/Twitter/GNews. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:14, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * [Add] It certainly isn't, as Wikipedia defines it, a "tagline". --Brian McNeil / talk 14:15, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

 * I tend to agree with SVTCobra. At the very least, the quote is redundant and lengthens the title without adding any info to it. I don't think it quite qualifies as "sensationalism", just unprofessional. I'm not at all a fan of the "use odd/funny titles to attract readers" strategy; we're not supposed to artificially try to make things exciting, it's our job to report on things factually and to-the-point. Just my two pence, cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  15:04, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * This is not Wikipedia. Drop the Dwayne Dibbley triple-thick-condom boring titles and use a little creativity. Or do you like writing for an audience of twelve? --Brian McNeil / talk 16:00, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Um, yes, I'm full aware that this isn't Wikipedia, I don't see what all that has to do with any of this. It's not an issue of "creativity", my opinion is that we should be as concise and factual as possible, even at the risk of sounding "dull as dishwater" as you indicated. I believe that's the entire goal of Wikinews, to be *different* than the MSM. Again, the title repeats itself unnecessarily and I believe it's somewhat unprofessional at best, borderline sensationalism at worst. But, this discussion seems to now be travelling in circles, and we are repeating ourselves. Can we get some outside opinion into this? Tempodivalse [talk]  18:26, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

 * No idea, but you can get me :p. There is little point writing news that nobody will read. The title still hasn't repeated itself; it contains a quote and facts. These are entirely individual elements and to say they are one and the same somewhat misrepresents Mr Hardwick's stance. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:31, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

 * I would think that the message "criminal in uniform:" is already adequately conveyed by "policeman jailed". And, I still have to disagree with the mindset that "we'll only get readers by putting up bizarre titles". Just IMO though, don't really feel strongly about it. :-b Tempodivalse [talk]  18:35, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

(outdent) I wouldn't call it bizarre. Only last night you were in IRC describing a sister project I could mention as taking its rules and regulations to an absurd length. There is nothing wrong with attempting to engage our readers; we are not drones and we do not write automatic, formulaic repeats. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:41, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

 * Actually, when I was talking about "bizarre", I wasn't really referring to this instance in particular, just in general. There's nothing wrong with engaging our readers, I actually like when we use punchy, newsy-text as long as it remains concise and factual. I'm mainly opposed to this specific headline from a stylistic aspect. Tempodivalse [talk]  19:50, 9 February 2010 (UTC)


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It works!


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Whoo! :)


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Michael Jackson doctor charged with involuntary manslaughter

February 9, 2010

Dr. Conrad Murray has been charged with involuntary manslaughter in connection to the death of Michael Jackson, who Murray was doctor to. Dr. Murray was with the singer when he died on June 25 last year.

The doctor is alleged to have acted "unlawfully and without malice". The prosecution's complaint said that when Dr. Murray gave Michael Jackson a powerful sedative to attempt to assist Jackson with his sleeping, he acted "without the caution and circumspection required". During rehearsals for a series of return concerts planned in London, England last year, the entertainer had employed the doctor to be his personal physician for the spring. If convicted of the charges, Dr. Murray could be imprisoned for up to four years.

According to Ed Chernoff, Dr. Murray's lawyer, he will not plead guilty. Speaking on Monday, before the charge was filed, Chernoff stated: "We'll make bail, we'll plead not guilty and we'll fight like hell." The coroner's office in Los Angeles, California, US reported that the death of Michael Jackson was a homicide, with the cause being an overdose of sedatives.


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Seems to work :)


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does it work?


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Welcome
Mike moral  ♪♫  21:54, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

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Response to response. And signature: Yellowcard (talk) 22:03, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


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No, my replies don't seem to work...


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Or do they?


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Welcome
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Wikinews interviews journalist Konrad Godlewski, who uncovered BATUTA hoax

February 14, 2010

Four years ago, on February 9, a major Polish newspaper, Gazeta Wyborcza published a report detailing a hoax in Polish Wikipedia entitled Henryk Batuta. The author of the report was Konrad Godlewski; several weeks later, Godlewski began editing Polish Wikipedia. The results of his work include one featured article – pismo chińskie (Polish for "Chinese character") – as well as various articles relating to China.

During our interview, Godlewski discusses memes, hoaxes, and the Batuta Army – the creators of the hoax his paper reported on. From February this year, a special project on the Polish Wikipedia, BATUTA, saw a makeshift taskforce work on improving the quality of content. BATUTA stands for "Bezwzględna Akcja Troskliwego Uźródławiania Tysięcy artykłów", roughly translated as "Ruthless Action of Carefully Adding References to Thousands of Articles".

Interview
''' You are the author of the first news story about the Henryk Batuta hoax, uncovered four years ago in the Polish Wikipedia. Do you remember when did the authors of the hoax first come to you? Was it just before the publication or earlier? The hoax was uncovered on January 20 and the story was published on February 9, so there was a period of time between those two dates... '''

I found them myself. Accidentally. I was looking for new, interesting stories about the Internet. My newspaper colleague Robert Sankowski told me he had heard somewhere about a friend of a friend who had been doing some huge scam in Wikipedia. Step by step, I had traced that person. This was a few months before the publication, back in late 2005. A representative from Batuta's Army asked me to hold on with publication, even though the article had already been visible in Wikipedia for many months. Did you follow the process of deletion of the article?

Yes, for the last few days. The Army from the very beginning wanted to test Wikipedia's defense mechanisms. It was then when I had a meeting with them and they told me about their views. They knew their hoax was nearing its end and they wanted to close it somehow.

'''In your story you wrote they wanted to show how thoughtless the people of Warsaw were when it came to names of streets and neighborhoods. Now it turns out it was more about Wikipedia and its mechanisms. '''

It was about a number of things at the same time. It was easy to notice the hoax was created by really smart people. Testing Wikipedia was one of the aspects of this entire thing.

The second one was the attitude towards streets and generally Poland's communist past. As one could easily guess, Batuta's Army had rather right-wing political views, most probably close to IPN [e.d. note: Instytut Pamięci Narodowej/IPN, English: National Memory Institute is a governmental agency in Poland conducting both criminal investigations and scientific research into the country's communist past], which fights against communist streets' namesakes.

And there was a third reason. As I'm sure you remember, in the 90s, conspiracy theories concerning Jews were popular in Poland. As some of the people of such origin had changed their names, the conspiracy theory made people see Jews nearly everywhere. Such lists were printed on paper and later they got published on the Internet. '''It's a bit strange. Having right-wing views, the Army caused the right-wing websites, which copied the hoax from Wikipedia, to get discredited as an effect of this.''' Not all right-wing people are uneducated individuals with antisemitic views.

'''The same IP number (which is dynamic but from a narrow range) which was used to create the hoax, is still being used today to edit Wikipedia. For example, quite recently someone tried to smuggle in a biography of "Hipolit Pieściuk – sculptor and social activist". Google shows no information on this biography. They've added just text, not an article. Does it mean they have not give up on Wikipedia? Your article in "Gazeta Wyborcza" ended with the words "Batuta's Army is asking for anonymity and claims that Henryk Batuta is not their last word".''' I haven't heard about Hipolit. As far as I know, Batuta's case actually turned up to be their last word. As far as I know those people have made careers and they now have more serious things to care about.

So they don't want to reveal themselves?

I imagine it wouldn't look good in their CVs. There are people who think of such scam as a point of honor. I don't think that's the case with Batuta's Army. Anyway, this case had also had an effect on me. Before the Batuta story I had made a few trial editions in Wikipedia. But later something turned me on. I thought there was a group of idealistic people who want to make humanity happier with their meticulous work. And someone tried to make idiots of them.

So you've started to develop articles up to featured article standards.

Don't exaggerate. I've written just one such article. But thanks to this, I've realized how important Wikipedia had become. I don't think there is single journalist who doesn't use it.

'''Would you reveal your Wikipedia nickname? '''

Yes, it's actually my high school nickname – conew. Sadly, after some time I stopped. My family got bigger and I didn't have enough time to make all of humanity happier.

'''When we were talking soon after your publication, you wrote to me you had hoped there would be some positive effects of your story. Do you think you've initiated a landslide change?'''

I don't think it was a landslide. But still, I do acknowledge the fact that Batuta's case has become something of a milestone in the development of Wikipedia. I had a chance to about it with Jimmy Wales. It was in the time when the German Wikipedia was testing new, stricter editorial guidelines.

However, I think the most important was the impact on the other side – the readers. Even the best editorial system lets some mistakes pass undetected. I know it, I've worked in several newspapers. Batuta's case reminds us the old truth: dubito ergo sum. There are mistakes in respected encyclopedias and books as well. Sometimes those are "Dawkins-like" mistakes, if you remember the chapter about memes in "The Selfish Gene".

My favorite example is the one about Michał Boym, Polish Jesuit and one of the first sinologists. He had done a great job with his descriptions of Chinese plants and animals. His works were later published in Europe. Sometimes his text were stolen from him and published under other people's names. There was a case of "green-furred turtle". Boym wrote about it because it was extremely bizarre: a turtle with green fur. In fact it was a kind of seaweed growing on the turtle's shell. Boym described it in his Latin text as "viridium". And printers from Vienna made it "vindium" which can be translated as "floating in air". This slight typing mistake made people in the West believe there were flying turtles in China. What's more, there were pictures showing this unusual thing.

'''Batuta also started to mutate and it happened at the very beginning. '''

That's because Wikipedia's articles are the best example of memetics at work. The articles are like some living organisms transferred to a new environment – with time they evolve, adapting to the requirements such as neutral of point of view, proper language, verifiability and, most importantly, factual truth.

'''In the printed edition of "Gazeta Wyborcza" your text was accompanied by a photo, supposedly showing Henryk Batuta. It actually did not appear in the Wikipedia article, but even Jimbo mentioned that photo when he was explaining this situation to the journalists.'''

Oh yes. The photo was the idea of the editor of that day's edition. It's a petty it is now stuck somewhere in Gazeta'sarchives because it a really great job by the photo editor. Maybe Wikipedia should ask "Gazeta" for permission to use this little masterpiece.

'''When I read some recent texts about Batuta I often come across different mutations of the story. The most common is the one which says the journalists were the ones who uncovered the hoax, in spite of the fact that your text was published several days after the uncovering made by the Wikimedians themselves. '''

That's correct. It is quite common to attribute different things to the journalists because of their job which is to go around, look and investigate. I've seen Batuta being quoted in many publications on Wikipedia and the Internet. This is part of a broader problem of credibility of sources. It's horrifying but we are surrounded by the half-truths and lies.

'''Roman, Władysław, Marek – the names of the members of Batuta's Army were obviously false as well? '''

Yes, they were "alternative".

'''Was the term "Batuta's Army" created after you had already begun to talk? Or maybe they came to you already with this term? '''

Batuta's Army was invented by the hoax' creators as we spoke. Probably they wanted it to sound like some well-know political terrorist organizations like IRA or Red Army Faction. It was a kind of joke. '''News about Batuta became a "good meme" and later it began to live a life of its own. Many legends originated from this story. Do you think it will become a "hard" urban legend?'''

I had thought so, but fortunately the Wikimedians woke up right in time and put an end to this. Today the original Batuta article is like an antibody in a vaccine – accompanied by a secure commentary, it can be used by anyone for the sake of his/her own immunity against such a "virus". However, another "Jewish conspiracy" theory is still thriving. It has something to do with Batuta's article, as in the hoax he was a communist activist with you-know-what origin. The theory I'm talking about was made popular by Okhrana (Russian secret police from the tzars times) with the publication of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion". It has made its way as far as to Japan. Recently I've been following its spread in China. A book called "The Currency Wars" has recently been published there. The author used to work at American financial institutions. When he came back to China, he wrote the book describing how America's finances are under control by a group of friends with common ancestry. I don't think there's any way of defense against a good hoax. I'm sure at least a few such Batutas are hiding somewhere in Wikipedia. It's a classical evolutionary arms race.

'''When media published a story about a hoax concerning a false product (medicine for hangover), they praised the company for visionary marketing, despite the fact it came down to a deception. Why in the conflict between citizens and business, the media represents the corporations?'''

Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. I don't think you can simplify it to such an extent. This is a chain: journalist – editor – publisher – owner. Each of the elements has its own motivations and there is little in common between them. That's maybe with the exception of desire for profit. But there are also some journalists who work mainly for their ideals.

I don't remember in detail that particular case, but a tendency to deceive is part of the human nature. What's more, people enjoy being deceived, they appreciate manipulation as long as it's witty and funny. One of the authors compared Batuta's case to provocations which are the basis of the modern conceptual art. The artist gets into the public space and shocks people in order to make them react, to make the viewer part of the game.

'''Maybe it's my oversimplification indeed. And maybe that's because Wikipedia itself is being perceived as if it was a corporation. I remember when Google's Knol was launched and one of the media stories called Knol David and Wikipedia Goliath. '''

It's a question of marketing and public relations. Google, as any modern company, spends a lot of money to create and maintain the image of both itself and its products. And Wikipedia is a bunch of Internet users who tries to set its own order by democratic means. It's part of democracies' nature that they need years to earn their own ethos, image and culture of organization. Just compare Polish and British democracy. '''OK, so I classically thank you for talking to me. '''

Thank you.


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Welcome
Tempodivalse [talk]  22:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks a lot! I won't be in here too often, for my english is really bad, ugh. Hiya! --Port(u*o)s (talk) 22:28, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

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Are threads always named opinions and tabbed as a new item adjacent to the discussion tab? --Port(u*o)s (talk) 22:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


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yes I did. By the latest test it worked.


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Hi, I'm an architect living in en:Zürich, Switzerland.

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Opinions is the namespace name (well sort of, localized tab name). Since this space is for people commenting and expressing opinions on stories.


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User talk:74.71.122.221

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! Thank You for posting your comments on articles. Did you know that you can also write articles for Wikinews? If you choose to help Wikinews by writing articles the links below might be helpful:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and Comment pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! Mike moral  ♪♫  22:58, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
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Welcome
Mike moral  ♪♫  22:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

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User talk:99.152.202.226

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! Thank You for posting your comments on articles. Did you know that you can also write articles for Wikinews? If you choose to help Wikinews by writing articles the links below might be helpful:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and Comment pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! Mike moral  ♪♫  23:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
 * Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced
 * Introduction - overview of the site
 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
 * Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
 * Style guide - how articles should look before publishing
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 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * Audio Wikinews could always use more contributors
 * And of course, stories need writing!

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Your bot
I've flagged Mikemoralbot, it's now set to go. I closed it early so you'd have a chance to set it up before midnight UTC, when the contest officially starts. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  13:58, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks  The New  Mikemoral  ♪♫ 18:02, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikinews writing contest reminder
—Message delivered by MikemoralBot on 23:15, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Newsletter
OK, I think the newsletter is good to go, when you have a chance. Before you send it, could you do me a favour and check it for errors and check the leader table hasn't changed since now. If it has, you can just recopy over a new one from the table page and change the total article count. Thanks!   Tris   22:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * When you send it, as before this week, can you update the leader table and the total article count. Thank you again!     Tris   22:39, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

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Writing contest newsletter: week 2
—Message delivered by MikemoralBot on 03:29, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Haiti's banks reopen
You still haven't got the five points for this article that you should be getting. Can't you ask an administrator to add the categories? -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 17:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

 * Hmm... I notice it has the category. Anyway, the version I had written should be three points. It is still under the verification header as far as I can tell. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  17:42, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: Brit English
Not a problem. I often interchange the two without thinking about it. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:58, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Niger coup article
So I fixed the Niger coup ousts president article; added another paragraph to it like you said to, but I'm new to Wikinews, and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do next. Do I just wait, or do I tag it again for review? I'm not quite sure of the policies here, so I figured I'd ask before I made some big mistake. Thanks. C628 (talk) 03:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * (Sorry for butting in here Mikemoral, but you seem to be away for the moment and I think a timely response would be good here) If you feel you've addressed the issues with an article that was tagged or failed review, it's perfectly acceptable to re-add review to it - it's not necessary to wait for anything. Hope that helps. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  03:48, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks Tempo. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  03:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks to both of you, sorry it took this long to reply. C628 (talk) 12:41, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Contest newsletter: weeks 3-4
—Message delivered by MikemoralBot on 22:32, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Help
I just created Story preparation/82nd Academy Awards and I request u to make some stylistic improvements, additions, subtractions,etc. Thank You --Adi4094 (talk) 05:13, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Failed artical
Im not quite surprised that it flopped it was my first attempt and it seemed that it was doomed from the start. Thanks for letting me know though. Moria330 (talk) 10:22, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

 * I assumed you'd be keeping an eye on the article to see what would happen to it. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  15:36, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

wwc
I entered my name to the wwc about 2 days ago. Plz. advise on how to proceed. I do not have any categories like Category:Adi4094 (WWC2010) --Adi4094 (talk) 12:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

 * ✅ I created your category. Mike  moral  ♪♫  15:33, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Newsletter
Hey Mike,

Do you reckon we should keep it on a two week schedule now, with things much quieter?

  Tris   10:39, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

 * That works probably much more efficiently mostly because the contest is slowing at this point. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  18:02, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

 * Any chance you can do it this week; am up to my ears in stuff. Thanks!     Tris   19:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I'll find someone to write something. Might be a bit late tho; I'm busy with my schoolwork. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  19:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Rana
For some reason, Rana doesn't appear to have a category for the writing contest. Can you explain please? -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 13:26, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

 * ✅ -- Mike moral  ♪♫  18:02, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

the comment page you requested for deletion
Just a heads up - 22678. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:32, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I noticed it was an attempted comments page after I warned. I fixed my mistake with in a minute so I hope the anon doesn't run away. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  19:38, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Admin
Hi Mikemoral, would you like me to nominate you for adminship? You've been a consistently active user for the past few months now, and I think you'd make a great sysop - plus we could do with some extra help in that department. Let me know what you think. :-) Tempodivalse [talk]  01:37, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, I accept your nomination. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  03:30, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Done, see . Don't forget to accept! :-) Tempodivalse [talk]  03:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

RE:Contest newsletter
I would love to, but I don't think that it is possible for me to email it to you. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 20:31, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Then just leave it here. Thanks, Mike  moral  ♪♫  22:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

How about this:

"There have been some significant changes to the leaderboard over the last couple of weeks. One of the main changes is the fact that five more entrants for the competition have now started to create articles for the contest, meaning that five more users have now gone onto the leaderboard. The total number of competitors on the list was 20 the last time I checked. One user in particular, known by the name of C628, appears to have performed particularly persistently recently, going from not being on the leaderboard at all to climbing all the way up to seventh place. On a separate note, I also managed to reach second place recently, surpassing Dendodge's total. This shows you just what you can achieve if you put enough effort into writing articles over a certain period of time. Remember, it is still perfectly possible to build up a score that is higher than Tempodivalse's! I wish all of our competitors the very best of luck for the next month and a bit."

Will this do? Does this need to be improved? Please let me know as soon as you can. Thanks, Rayboy8  ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 17:35, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Administrator
Hi Mikemoral, just to let you know promoted you to admin status a few minutes ago. Enjoy your new powers and please don't hesitate to ask me if you need any help with them. :-) Tempodivalse [talk]
 * Thanks, and I'll try not to break the wiki :p. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  03:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Congrats! Pmlineditor discuss 08:32, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Congratulations on reaching Administrator status. Best of luck to you for the future. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 17:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Regarding archiving articles
Hi Mikemoral! Hope you're enjoying being an administrator. Minor note, when archiving articles please do not remove publish, but rather add archive immediately below it. That causes articles to disappear from the archives, which is definitely not what we want. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  19:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I'm still learning. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  23:27, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Bad!
Bad! Don't remove publish!1-- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 19:37, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, within a minute. Thanks, Mike  moral  ♪♫  23:27, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

whoa! no bot Archiving
Please stop using a bot such as AWB to archive articles. This has been voted on many times. --SVTCobra 00:30, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No, this is all manually done. I must verify with a click twice. I will stop. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  00:36, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Even with the 'two clicks' there is no way you can carry out all the checking specified in Archive conventions. This is the final streamlining of articles; dates are brought into a single format, spelling is rechecked, etc. wrote these conventions. The idea is that once an article is protected and archived, there is almost no reason to touch it again. Categories seem to be the main exception to this rule. Cheers, --SVTCobra 00:43, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. I'll not use AWB. Mike  moral  ♪♫  00:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * What checking? I never do any checking of that sort before archiving (unless it's something obvious I see in the edit window). Due to flagged revs/peer review, the possibility of inappropriate information/mistakes being brought into the article after publication is practically nil, it will be quickly noticed and reverted (unless a flagged editor does it, but we trust them to know better than that). IMHO, there is no harm in using a semi-automated process to archive. Something to bring up at the water cooler? Tempodivalse [talk]  03:24, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Tempo, you are supposed to do style checking (not fact checking). I thought you had read the conventions, since you are a prolific archiver. --SVTCobra 23:42, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I read the conventions, but forgot about that bit (although i've archived thousands of articles, and never received any comment on not checking anything). But style check should have been done properly after a peer-review, and any further edits would have gone under scrutiny due to Flagged Revisions. Tempodivalse [talk]  23:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Just as a side note, "Wikipedia's AutoWikiBrowser supports Wikinews and is a useful tool for catching typos and common errors. It is, however, no substitute for the current version of the human eyeball," is what the policy says and therefore I assumed because I can see the wikicode before pushing button, it'd be fine. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  23:58, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello?
Hello? Do you have any opinions on the piece of text I've left here? Any suggestions to improve it? Please let me know as soon as you can. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 18:26, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

 * That's good, thanks for the piece. I'll run MikemoralBot soon. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  23:24, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Contest newsletter
—Message delivered by MikemoralBot on 00:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Just wondering...
If you could userfy the aricle I wrote on that Albert Yip scandal. On 'pedia even hoax articles can be usefied but I don't know if the rules are the same on 'news. Kayau (talk) 04:25, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ I don't think there are set policies. User:Kayau/Restaurant translates 'cow's stomach' as 'Albert Yip' -- Mike moral  ♪♫  18:24, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry
next time i'll check the link--Pierpao (talk) 19:59, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

 * No problem. We have FlaggedRevs for that purpose. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  20:07, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Two sucide bombers attack Moscow
Can you review this article again? I have improved it. Xxxsacheinxxx (talk) 08:23, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, there's a suggested merging of two similar articles. Perhaps that's priority. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  22:45, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

I created Two sucide bombers attack Moscow so I don't mind merging it with Two suicide bombers attack Moscow Metro. I'll try and merge it by today. Xxxsacheinxxx (talk) 06:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

You are now an accredited user
Congrats and thanks for your work. – Juliancolton  | Talk 01:47, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! -- Mike moral  ♪♫  01:52, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

You are CHU!!!
PIKA-CHU I CHOOSE YOU! -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 05:59, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

THUNDERBOLT! -- Mike moral  ♪♫  06:00, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok
Ok. Drini (talk) 03:02, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Award Star!

 * Thanks! -- Mike moral  ♪♫  01:20, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Newsletter
I have no desire to enter into a pointless discussion. The one comment made by the user was one among many. I was not referring to just one situation. I direct you to his wikipedia profile where he refers to administrators as "Nazis." This discussion is over.--William Saturn (talk) 17:06, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Soapbox
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Comments:Earthquake_in_Kalgoorlie,_Western_Australia - i suspect that it needs a delete? SatuSuro (talk) 04:11, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Mike  moral  ♪♫  23:50, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

CC License Question
(this was posted to your old, redirected talk page, moving here so you'll get the ping. -Tempo) Since Wikinews is technically commercial, are there any CC licenses that can be freely used in the audio news cast? I was just curious since all CC licenses I have come across have a non-commercial attribution. If that's the case, I can go back to the old intro / outro music for the time being since I'm not sure where I'd find free music that would meet the requirements. If you have any ideas on what licenses we can use, please let me know.

Thanks, Dan Turtlestack (talk) 02:33, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Basically, it's any audio without the NC bit. I would try the Internet Archive at archive.org. Thjey have lots of free audio. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  02:48, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Following up on AW
(copied here from your old talk page so you'll get the ping. -Tempo)

I stopped by your audio files page to take a listen and the only issue I see(hear) is your microphone. It sort of makes your voice sound as if you are speaking over a telephone but otherwise your pronunciation seems just fine. I'd love to get some help with the audio briefs and if you stop by my user page you can take a look at some of the ideas I have for structure, templates and so on. I'm keeping all that on my user page right now just to edit the ideas before I finalize them and get them on the main audio news briefs page.

Really, all that you would have to worry about right now is writing your script for the story you are reading, then record the file and get it to me in .ogg format (along with your script - either in an email or as a .txt file). If we have access to an FTP server, that would be even better. Once I have that, I can edit the show in Audacity and get the final mix created and all the housekeeping done on the wiki side.

The only other thing I would need is a .ogg recording of you saying your name and the current date. This is because if we are both reading, then the script would go something like :

"From Wikinews, the free news source, this is the audio Wikinews brief for Friday, April 23nd, 2010. I'm Dan Harlow and I'm Mike Moral and these are today's top stories:"

The part in bold you would record (keep in mind the inflection of your voice so it "sounds" like we are in the same room. For example, if you listen to how I say my name, I pronounce it so that it builds : Harlow is higher than Dan and Dan is higher than I'm, so you would probably want to reverse that structure when you say "And I'm Mike Moral" where I'm is higher then Mike and Mike is higher than Moral. I know it's sort of hard to explain without hearing it, but it's an easy thing to work out.

Of course this is dependent on who will be reading the first (lead) story in the brief. If you are reading the lead story, then it would be "I'm Dan Harlow and I'm Mike Moral ..." but if I'm reading the top story, then you should read the introduction "From Wikinews, the free news source, this is the audio Wikinews brief for Friday, April 23nd, 2010. I'm Mike Moral" This way the recording flows nicely into the lead story without 3 changes in speaker in just under 3 seconds.

Anyway, we can work this all out as we go since it's just a few minor creative decisions that can easily be edited on the fly.

Let me know when you want to start, even if you want to start today. I try to publish the AW around 5pm EST (in the US) because that fits my current schedule, but just lemme know how, when and if you want to do any recording. Turtlestack (talk) 18:06, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

 * Okay, I'll get you that audio. Wouldn't ti be easier to create a collaboration page on wiki? We have plenty of space. I'll get the audio online soon. Btw, my name is Mike Morales, but there's no problem. --MikemoralSock (talk) 19:40, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

 * Probably not today, because I'll be away from laptop with a decent audio config. I'll go ahead and ping you when I probably can. --MikemoralSock (talk) 19:46, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

 * No problem, just lemme know when you want to start. As far as a collaboration page, I have no idea how to set that up but that sounds like the perfect solution to coordinating everything. Turtlestack (talk) 21:55, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

 * Okay see Audio Wikinews/Workspace. That page could the collaboration page. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  23:10, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

 * Thank you! I'll play around with it tomorrow since today ran way longer than I expected. 02:10, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Silliness in IRC
I suppose that is one of those games you can only win by not playing? I felt like I completely wasted my time, and I've seen similar many years ago. Sure I've also seen some of those IRC nicks before I was editing here. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk' 11:22, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I had lots of time to kill. I had just done an article before I played the quiz. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  01:53, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Re: Wikinews investigates: Deceptive internet ads disguised as news articles scam unknowing users out of money
I have fixed the issues that you addressed with your review- I believe that all of the 1st person is gone. Cheers, Tjc6 (talk) 23:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: Sorry
No problem, it happens to everyone. Cheers, Tjc6 (talk) 18:29, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Question
I am coming back to Wikinews because I am finding myself bored at times. Don't worry, I have no plans to repeat the past. I wanted to know if you could design a user page like yours for me. I have an image in mind.

Asher Heimermann 04:23, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Wikinews! Mikemoral is gone / apparently he went to sleep as I'll do after I save this. Feel free to copy his userpage, but don't say you are an admin ;) --Diego Grez return fire 04:45, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

 * Hi! I'm here for another hour or so. Give me an image and I'll do one for you. Mike  moral  ♪♫  04:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Alberta Lt Gov
Thank you for taking the time to peek at Albertan lieutenant governor sworn in. It has been a great while since I tried writing a wikinews article, but it was exciting to be there today.SriMesh | talk  04:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was having a hard time getting the name right and, well, flooded rc. Mike  moral  ♪♫  04:48, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Contest is over
... and me is waiting to be officially announced as the winner and given the promisted barnstar ;) Tempodivalse [talk]  03:52, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * /me gets to announcements. Mike  moral  ♪♫  21:10, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks for running this. There's still a few articles to put into the totals - Diego is second, not me, once that's done. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:20, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

What makes you think I will?
Also, what gives you the right to edit my user page?
 * Not "your user page". Griffinofwales (talk) 15:30, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The "right?" That's called spam removal. — Mike moral  ♪♫  17:58, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Custom portal sections
Please don't create portal-specific subpages & tweak the templates!

There is already one option for custom sub-sections, and I'll be doing more. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:15, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Then should I have created a new template instead? Oh I see what you mean by the subsections. — Mike moral  ♪♫  23:29, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Today's This Day In History
I was so going to do Edward Elgar, in fact, I even used a piece of his music in Monday's show to lead up to today, but I was so beat and dead tired after work and the segment would have taken so long to write, that I just couldn't do it and had to settle for something "easier". Anyway, I just felt like I should tell you since you like classical music and Elgar is a fairly major figure (with plenty of CC licences music I was all set to use). I'll get to Elgar next year lol Turtlestack (talk) 04:42, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, I'm actually playing an Elgar piece in my ensemble now. :) I have this in the public domain. — Mike moral  ♪♫  04:52, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Or from the Marine Band also PD. — Mike  moral  ♪♫  04:59, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Director of National Intelligence news article
The issues have been fixed. I'm sorry I contacted you directly on your talk page about it, but I fear it goes stale if it doesn't get reviewed soon. Nuburos (talk) 20:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh there no problem. — Mike moral  ♪♫  20:26, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Assume good faith
Hi. I thought I'd better explain what I was thinking here. I'd overlooked the Category:No publish that Softredirect adds, so I put that in manually, and of course your copyedit of de-contracting the contraction. I'm not stuck on. But Softredirect is diametrically opposed to the page's whole reason for existing, because it generates a message that says AGI is the same thing as AGF, when we're pouring all our effort into doing absolutely everything we possibly can to prevent anyone from ever thinking that. --Pi zero (talk) 03:42, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * But we definitely need something better than an ambox. — Mike moral  ♪♫  04:54, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

 * What I don't like about the ambox is its stingy use of space: there's that whole page with nothing else on it, and the box is this narrow horizontal strip with a small image, jam packed with text.  I actually think some of its aesthetic features might be rather pleasant if not for that.  I might try my hand at opening it out a bit... tomorrow.  (It's now the wee hours of the morning for me.)  --Pi zero (talk) 05:53, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Bawolff vote RFP
Can you please indicate more clearly, whether this is a Support or Oppose? Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 19:44, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * ok. — Mike moral  ♪♫  20:37, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Australian Internet Censorship
I dont know how to apply such a template to the article itself....either teach me or do it urself...

 * Firstly, read the errors that were I found in the article, correct them, and but the article back up for review. — Mike moral  ♪♫  03:28, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Audio transcript
Hi Mikemoral, Benny says you have the transcript for the Creative Commons interview. We have concerns over verification for that story, so could you comment here on the matter? Thanks. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:24, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Blocking Alternateaccount
True, the username may have been confusing, but it should have been blocked with autoblock disabled and account creation allowed, as there is a constructive user using that account that is now inadvertently affected by an autoblock. MC10 (talk) 23:44, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I screwed up there. — Mike moral  ♪♫  23:49, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Request for new username
Please see here my request and comment. --Saki (talk) 06:40, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

To publish or not to publish
I was just looking through my watchlist (I'm kinda bad about looking in there regularly) and noticed you were wondering why we don't publish the news brief page.

When James Pain was running AW he had in his templates and notes that we don't publish those but I can't remember his reasons.

However, I believe the no publish is because we want visitors going straight to the articles and not the briefs page. Also, the briefs page represents the script of the show and not an approved and verified version of each story. Since changes are made to the articles for the show (word flow usually, but sometimes more dramatic changes have to be made) we wouldn't probably want the script to be the representative of each article. One other thing is that I've been given amazingly wide latitude to do these shows as I see fit - adding music, bad puns, humorous transitions between stories and neutral but (hopefully) funny commentary on the rare occasion (the very end of the Harry Potter story from the July 15th show being a good example of such).

Still though, it might not be a bad idea to run the idea of a publish on these pages past the "committee" to see what everyone thinks. I agree that it would add at least one more reason for Google to look through the site and rank us which, in turn, could lend us more exposure - which is the point of the AW anyway.

Perhaps changes could be made to the format of the briefs page to more accurately reflect the actual text of the published articles?

Turtlestack (talk) 22:13, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

 * There's a difference between publishing and . The first is clicking the save button to allow Google, Yahoo!, Bing, etc. to index the pages and put them in web searches, the other publishes news articles to the main page. When you add CAT:No publish to a page it stops from being indexed in a web search. I think it'd be a good idea to allow the news briefs to show up in Google for publicity and such.
 * I personally think the news briefs are fine as is. Maybe when there can be for than one person running AW, then we can perhaps get the news briefs put on the main page. I'm not sure what you had in mind for changing the news briefs' format, however. If you mean putting up the briefs up for review, then that should be brought up at WN:WC.
 * Hope this helps, — Mike moral  ♪♫  22:54, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Oh, I just brought up the idea of changing the format to better reflect the actual published stories. As far as hitting the save button, that's totally fine. I'll start doing that with today's show once I get it uploaded. Should I save the other pages too? Turtlestack (talk) 00:17, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Er, you do know you can embed an audio link? If the news briefs could be reviewed in a timely manner, I'd not see any serious problem with a published template containing it being included in the front page. The script? Can someone ask Shaka what it'd take to copy that to the Commons media file talk page? --Brian McNeil / talk 01:08, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * IIRC, commons has a TimedText namespace for scripts. I'm sure reviewing the news briefs is quick and easy, follow along with the audio and fix the script accordingly. — Mike moral  ♪♫  01:10, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Yep, the briefs page is the script I use to read the show - it varies very little from the recorded show aside from the occasional ad-lib or linguistic work around. There is, of course, the easter egg I have in every show which is not on the script or brief, but it's a non issue since it's fund raising stuff for the site. Mike knows what I'm talking about :) Turtlestack (talk) 04:00, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

 * After that, it should start going out on our feeds. Someone used to have a Wikinews account on iTunes and put WN:AUDIO up there - might've been Ilya. I can probably set up something to take them, transcode, and put them on Spotify. That would have to be user-side, unless Commons has toys for distribution of media. --Brian McNeil / talk 02:02, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Turtlestack already got us on iTunes. I remember we were chatting on IRC about getting AW on iTunes, I suggested PodBean. He still uses it for MP3 hosting for iTunes-friendliness. We also have AW at the Internet Archive. Ideally, we can get the Wikinews Twitter to post whenever there is a AW release as well. — Mike moral  ♪♫  02:10, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Yep, we've been on iTunes awhile now (May 15th, actually), and I've been uploading the show to the Internet Archive since day one. I also upload the show onto my blog which sends out a tweet to my twitter. I also used to upload to SoundCloud, but that site is really more for music so I stopped using it. Having the show pop up on the official wikinews twitter would be really nice to remind everyone that it has gone live too. Turtlestack (talk) 03:56, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Note, just address a previous comment. No publish does not prevent google from indexing (Well it might prevent google news, but thats a different story). No publish keeps it off the list of developing list on the news room. No publish is unnecessary on brief pages. The category Brief has a very similar affect to the no publish category. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok, I'll just use the Category:Brief in the future. Turtlestack (talk) 03:52, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, I fail with No publish. :p — Mike moral  ♪♫  04:17, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't feel bad, I still have no idea what any these codes mean. I cut and paste all my templates and otherwise just type in what you all tell me to and hope it all works :) Turtlestack (talk) 04:34, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Geez, it took me forever to learn wikicode. I joined WMF in April '07 and probably didn't get until last year. — Mike moral  ♪♫  04:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Spam Blacklist
meta:Talk:Spam blacklist -  Amgine | t 04:38, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Noted. — Mike moral  ♪♫  04:41, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Recent edits
Mike, I think you can pass on my frustration RE: attempts to edit the WC, and Tempo's userpage from a touchscreen mobile phone.

I'm well-pissed off. He's an arse, politeness does not excuse being an ignorant moron. Wikinews will need people editing from 3G devices such as this Nokia, to really break out in OR terms. He's stymied my efforts, in very limited time, to participate in important policy debates. Nice is useless, when you cause the loss of hours of input by someone with a clue. I despair, and thus stomp off in search of news where I am ln-the-scene, able to get photos and audio, and not plagued by people who are mediocre would-be 'journalists'. More likely, I will assume he role of bard toan attractive, mostly female, audience. I'm disgusted, and not wasting anymore time on this 'useless idiot'. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk 19:44, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Nice article
Just wanted to compliment you on Ahmadinejad criticizes Paul the octopus. Aside from giving me a good chuckle, it was an interesting read. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts?   02:10, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I thought it'd make for a fun article. :) Funny how Ahmadinejad would even talk about a octopus. — Mike moral  ♪♫  02:13, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

A composer today
It's been awhile since I featured a composer on TDiH, so I went all out today and even structured the segment according to each movement of The Four Seasons to correspond to the period in Vivaldi's life :) Hope you enjoy it. Turtlestack (talk) 02:25, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yay! I love the composer segments. :) — Mike moral  ♪♫  02:35, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It was a tough choice too since both Vivaldi and Johann Sebastian Bach died on the same day (and only 9 years apart) but Vivaldi was a bit easier to do. Turtlestack (talk) 02:39, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, that's kind of is a hard choice, I'd agree. — Mike moral  ♪♫  02:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry
about that. Sonia (talk) 05:27, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, no problem, just make sure you leave copyedits to articles to that have not been edited for a while or articles in review. :) — Mike moral  ♪♫  05:30, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * FYI, we have an editing banner to warn when edit conflicts are likely. Few people seem to use it. --InfantGorilla (talk) 11:36, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for removing my reviewer right (and for giving it to me in the first place). Feel free to drop by my talk page on Wikipedia if ever you need anything. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts?   21:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I forgot I gave you the right too. Well, bye. :( — Mike moral  ♪♫  21:13, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Opinion -- topic newsworthy?
I have told some of the primatologists I know that if they want to bring breaking news to me, then I will help highlight it on Wikinews. Originally, I was thinking about newly discovered species/populations, extinctions, or other major conservation-related events. I've just received a request from a researcher wanting to know if Wikinews could include a news article about an award that's being given to a Malagasy conservationist for his efforts to help protect habitat in Madagascar. The news article (from the organization giving the award) can be found at the following location: Forest Conservationist from Madagascar to Receive 2010 Seacology Prize

Do you feel that an article on this topic is newsworthy in a Wikinews context? I can see it going both ways, given what Rabary Desiré has done in Madagascar: buying land with his meager income to build a small private nature reserve, educating his fellow citizens about conservation, etc. However, I've never heard of "Seacology" until now, but it sounds like an important award, the money will be spent to further conservation of primate species recognized on "The World's 25 Most Endangered Primates" (published by the IUCN, Conservation International, and the International Primatological Society), and the $10,000 prize is huge for someone who lives in a country where most people earn around $100 a year. Your thoughts? –  VisionHolder  « talk »  01:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

 * To be honest, I've never heard of Seacology before. You will need two sources for the article to be reliable, unless WN:OR is done. If I can get contact information (i.e., an email address), then I can ask the Seacology organization. It's best to have a third-party news source and ideally the article will be written around the ceremony. I'd like to email the head of this event for more information and possible a statement. — Mike moral  ♪♫  02:32, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks! I will pass this information along and see how they wish to proceed. –   VisionHolder  « talk »  02:59, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Email me with their email address if you can (the one I can easily find on the site :P). — Mike moral  ♪♫  03:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Julian Assange article
Thanks for your style corrections. Could you change the title and review the article so that it can be published? The new development (the arrest warrant being quashed by the Chief Prosecutor) is very much breaking news so it needs to be published. Tamino (talk) 16:16, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Moon
Are you quite sure that the 'Moon' is not a proper noun? Moon refers to any moon in general, but when the Moon is mentioned in the article, it is referring to a specific object, the moon of Earth. Tyrol5 (talk) 16:37, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I've learned moon is lowercase a while back, but there seems to be many disagreements on that. NASA lowercase and Wikipedia uppercase. I'd prefer using NASA's capitalization. Looking at the Google search results, it's about even between "moon" and "Moon." — Mike moral  ♪♫  16:42, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I've always thought that if moon is not capitalized, you're just referring to the moon in general, but if you are referring to the Moon (the one and only), it's capitalized; but that's just me. I can go either way, I just thought I'd bring it up. Tyrol5 (talk) 16:55, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Usually, I think "moons" in general refers to any natural satellite orbiting a planet of other celestial body, but "the moon" is the Earth's moon. — Mike moral  ♪♫  16:57, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * To be quite honest, I think it's all about personal opinion and preference, one of those grammatical debates that can never be resolved. Tyrol5 (talk) 17:01, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Original report tag?
This edit puzzles me a little

Please consider either leaving more informative edit summaries on leads, (or restoring the 'original' tag.)

--InfantGorilla (talk) 19:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry. I figured with an original tag right above it, it looked cluttered, should have noted that. — Mike moral  ♪♫  04:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Resolved. You have a point! --InfantGorilla (talk) 07:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikinews Style Guide
Hi, I saw the recent style guide PDF that you posted, and in the description you said that you were looking for something "more stylish". I would be glad to help with the visual or general enhancement of the guide, if needed. red  - thunder  .  18:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The style guide I put together is meant to easy to read and can save a bit of color ink, being blank. But, of course, It's bland. I removed formatting and template stuff from the print version, leaving the section on article content in it. If oy u could make a more aesthetically please guide, I'd be very glad. — Mike moral  ♪♫  01:10, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

 * By all means Americanizzzze a copy of the SG in your userspace. But, you will provoke an edit war if you settle on consistent American spelling in the real document. (Plus, I'll ask the Canucks to go burn down the Whitehouse again - as a matter of honour). --Brian McNeil / talk 05:11, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

 * It's simply a guide to the way I (usually) do things in articles; I'm noting going to attempt to put in WN:SG. — Mike moral  ♪♫  21:22, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Ah, thanks. I'll use that in the future. Regards,  WackyWace talk 17:15, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) — Mike moral  ♪♫  17:16, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Help with my wordiness!
Hello User:Mikemoral, I saw the review of my most recent article, and I have been trying my best to follow style guide regulations, but I know that I'm going to have trouble with being less wordy and more concise. My writing style, unfortunately, is very much like what you saw in the Kashmir article. I'm not sure how to make the article less wordy and more "news-y", as you put it, but that may be because I am too closely related to this article. Could you help a new user like myself figure out where to go with the article? Thanks.

Bkissin (talk) 11:55, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Sure, I get the time today, I can copyedit the article. I didn't have time when I reviewed last night, but hopefully I do today. — Mike moral  ♪♫  01:35, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Pope Benedict article
Hi, can you help me with creating an article about Pope Benedict XVI leaving the United Kingdom after his papal visit to the country? Thanks -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 15:42, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Sorry, I'll be way for most of the day. My apologies. — Mike moral  ♪♫  19:04, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Plane crashes off Catalina Island injures three, causes bush fire
Hi, I have added all that I could find from sources and now it's a bit longer. Bobby122  Contact Me   (C)  01:19, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oops sorry about the breaking news thing, time ran away from me. Bobby122   Contact Me   (C)  01:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh no problem. Thanks for fixing it so quickly. — Mike moral  ♪♫  02:02, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Archiving
Did you use a script to archive the articles tonight at exactly midnight UTC? --Pi zero (talk) 01:02, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I just prepared them before midnight, then clicked save/protect. — Mike moral  ♪♫  01:19, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

 * Hm. I'm guessing two tabs per article, one for the edits and one for the protection?

 * Well, I'm glad to hear it's not a bot. I've concluded it's better to have a sapient do archiving, 'cause there's no telling what peculiar circumstance might come up that a person could catch but a bot couldn't.  (I do find some things that are fairly often still wrong after a week, like missing categories and misplaced publish tags, but I'm really looking for the unique problems).

 * BTW, since you weren't using the pseudo-bot flag, you'd need to sight a second time, after protecting. (I sighted them for you.  Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine: it used to drive me crazy, before I was an admin, that I'd look at an archived article and it'd have this [review pending changes] button that I couldn't do anything about. :-)  --Pi zero (talk) 02:59, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

 * Bah, I knew I forgot something. (It does bother me also when articles aren't sighted after archiving, but I was having a race against the clock for the sheer fun of it ;). I beat it too.) — Mike moral  ♪♫  03:32, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

w00t
wb -  Amgine | t 05:55, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Was ultra-pissed. The ISP disconnected me by mistake (and bit of the city for that matter). Rep said I could reconnect anytime, but still needed to call some call center in India to finally be reconnected. Fours days without the internet sucked. (Done with rambling). — Mike moral  ♪♫  05:58, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Lies. (done with bit) -  Amgine | t 06:00, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Mexican politician Silverio Cavazos killed by gunmen
Hi there,

I have updated the last sentence as requested. Cheers,

Chandlerjoeyross (talk) 12:34, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

  May your family have a joyous holiday season and a new year blessed with hope and happiness.
 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!  — fetch · comms  23:00, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

An image for my article
Hi, Mikemoral. I would like to insert an image into my article entitled. My problem is that this image is available only on Wikipedia, so I don't know how to get the image available on Wikinews. Please send me a message of response explaining how this image can be placed onto Wikinews as soon as you can. Thanks -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 22:59, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

 * You can download that image to you desktop and upload it here with fair use rationale. I think you hould instead use a free image. This Flickr image is licensed freely, so we can use it here. (Image link) When I get a free moment, I'll upload to Commons, and I'll crop it later so we can get just Cardle not surrounded his audience. — Mike moral  ♪♫  04:35, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

 * Thank you for that information Mikemoral. I appreciate it. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 12:02, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) — Mike moral  ♪♫  23:15, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

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Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! Thank You for posting your comments on articles. Did you know that you can also write articles for Wikinews? If you choose to help Wikinews by writing articles the links below might be helpful:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and Comment pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! Mike moral  ♪♫  23:33, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
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ITV fined A$3000 for cruelty to rat on "I'm A Celebrity...Get Me Out Of Here!"

February 10, 2010

A spokesperson stated on Monday that UK television company ITV have been fined A$3000 (about US$2591 or £1663) for cruelty to animals in an incident on programme "I'm a Celebrity…Get Me Out of Here!", where two celebrities killed and ate a rat.

The incident involved actor Stuart Manning and television chef Gino D'Acampo, who went on to win the ninth series of the programme, which was broadcast in 2009. Inside the jungle, having been reduced to rations of beans and rice, the two celebrities caught a rat before killing it and then cooking it, to give the beans and rice "more protein", before eating the rat, which contestant and actor George Hamilton described as "actually quite nice". Inside the programme's video diary room, at the time of the recording of it, Gino D'Acampo said: "I saw one of these rats running around. I got a knife, I got its throat, I picked it up."

RSPCA Australia had stated that performing an act like this on television was "not acceptable". Initially, Manning and D'Acampo were charged for animal cruelty. However, their charges were dropped when ITV made the confession that production staff had allowed the celebrities to carry out the act of killing the rat. After a court trial in Sydney, Australia, ITV got a fine of A$3000. The company also had to pay costs of A$2500 (US$2192 or £1396).

An ITV spokesperson said that "ITV has apologised for the mistake which led to this incident. The production was unaware that killing a rat could be an offence, criminal or otherwise in New South Wales, and accepts that further inquiries should have been made. This was an oversight and we have since thoroughly reviewed our procedures and are putting in place a comprehensive training programme to ensure that this does not happen in future series."


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Thanks for experimenting with Wikinews. Your test worked, and has now been reverted or removed. Please use Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles may disrupt the site's working and will be reverted quickly. , welcome to Wikinews! Please refrain from using content pages for testing. Here are a few good links for newcomers on how to edit Wikinews:

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