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User talk:128.103.7.16

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User talk:130.113.15.182

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User:Holon67~enwikinews

Wikinews Needs You !
Welcome :) Wikinews needs more gutsy reporters. Please give Wikinews as much time as your schedule allows. Neutralizer 20:05, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:Opalus

Glad you decided to come
Welcome to wikinews. Glad you decided to get a user acount, and stay. Happy editing. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:45, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

REALLY glad
It is so great to see such thoughtful and well-sourced edits. Neutralizer 04:51, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Amgine dont like casepage about Mrm
Well, I didnt have time to do so much befor Amgine moved it, but I liked what you wrote. Maybe the problem is that Mrm just dont care so much about policy if it dont suite him. But I must say we really have a nice gang here that help each other to keep wikinews whatever their want it to be. International 10:01, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Edits to: Al Jazeera airs new Osama Bin Laden tape
Hello. Wikinews is not an encyclopedia. please do not make changes/edits to past/old articles as they are based on what was reported by Wikinewsies at the time the article was published and are considered historical documents. Please see WN: NOT regarding your edits. "5. Wikinews articles are not works in progress. Developing articles are marked with the template. Once written and published they are historical documents; they should not continue to be updated or changed. Especially, they should not be altered to an angle or POV not reflective of the article as it was published. Wikinews is not an encyclopedia."

Thank you ☺☻ Jason Safoutin 19:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

A clear demand is made on you talk page for a specific explanation to be provided for the reversion of the Ayman al-Zawahiri releases new tape article entry made as per referenced WN:NOT; no entry has been made knowingly to the article Al Jazeera airs new Osama Bin Laden tape. Opalus 20:09, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * What WAS REPORTED in the article is whats there. An ADMIN reverted your edits but the policy to that is 3RR]. However I do agree with you the article was published. The revert was done on the Zawahiri tape on January 19. I am sorry I put the wrong title on your page. But however with that siad, WN policy is that it is a historical document once published. Especially one this old. Jason Safoutin 20:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * This article: Ayman al-Zawahiri releases new tape. Jason Safoutin 20:18, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Then contrary to the statement from Amgine, you state that it is against policy to even add information that is present in a source, in this particularly the story from Fox news references the village name and location but that is not present in the article. What of accuracy? Is the date stamp more important then? What of moving to develop, adding information, and returning to published with new date and rewritten to acknowledge that fact to add the information then? In two years the line in the wikinews article will not be comprehensible as the event mentioned is not adequately described-it must be adequately described to serve as a record and this I believe can be done by simply adding information from the Fox news article already referenced to provide the village name and location. Opalus 20:26, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Well I am sorry there are two admins who have commented on the issue and both agree that the article is to no longer be edited. It is violation of the policy. read talk apge of article. Jason Safoutin 20:44, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Whether you are sorry or not is irrelevant. The question of adding further detail to the wikinews article to more fully ensure its understanding as a record in the future that is present in sources listed before its publishing date is disputed. One administrator states that only addition of such information provided it does not remove any other information is allowed, two others state that it is not. Is it an informal procedure that in instances of divergent administrative views on violation or non-violation concerning an act that the side to which the first majority is given is determined to be the correct without further discussion? Is there some policy on this somewhere, for future reference is there a list of administrator authority priority for obeying or ignoring particular administrator comments in different situations? Perhaps you or MrMiscellanious are ranked above Amgine? What is the procedure for obtaining a vote on this issue, propose new policy on its discussion page on the resolution of administrator declaration conflicts or administrator rank priority? Opalus 20:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Jason, I stand firmly on the side of Opalus's opinion. Opalus, you may bring this matter to the water cooler for general community discussion if you feel you have hit a roadblock. Neutralizer 21:00, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Issue now on the water cooler
You may wish to comment here. Neutralizer 03:01, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Sore head
Thanks Opalus. It's probably just my own laziness. Long sentences make my brain hurt. :-) - Borofkin 23:32, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

3RR Proposal
Please see Water cooler/policy, et sequiem. This community has a fundemental decision to make as to whether it shall be governed by the guidance of rules or the whims of personalities. Now is the time. StrangerInParadise 12:51, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Userpage Reply
I am in no way trying to offend you. I have seen a lot of you work and contribs and I like a lot if not 98% of them. I just feel that I have been attacked in this article. I have nothing against you at all and I am sorry If I gave you the wrong first impression. I do apologize and just believe that with the amount hard effort that went into the article to make it as NPOV as possibe was wasted. This is an event that occured in the US a alleged plot against the US and is reported in the US. But ayways, Ihope yuo do decide to stay. if not then good luck :) Jason Safoutin 05:07, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Opalus, calling fellow contributors here at Wikinews "fools" is not contructive. Your contributions to news stories is solid. Your positions on issues are solid. Your communication on Talk pages is difficult to understand because your reasoning is conveyed with so many qualifiers. It makes the logical arguments you express sound circular, and difficult to follow. I must admit that I am a "fool" because I haven't the patience to probe your prose for the exact point you try to make. -Edbrown05 06:08, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

NEVER...NEVER..NEVER...NEVER QUIT !
Winston Churchill kept saying that while London was being bombed by the 20th century nazis. Right now civilized culture and society are being bombed by the 21st. century nazis (don't misinterpret; none of our contributors are nazis,imo, not a single one). Opalus, you won't quit because you CAN'T quit, and still be you...also, Edbrown05 wants you to stay otherwise he wouldn't have bothered to say anything at all; right Ed :)...and I have come to understand and appreciate the way you use the english language. It is somewhat Shakespearean but quite comprehensive,I think, and I would miss you dearly...so please stay for me if no other reason. Neutralizer 13:13, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

The Team is backing you
Together gainst the evilness International 13:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Please see the Pennsylvania story
.You had a positive impact,I think. Please come back. Neutralizer 14:48, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:Sol~enwikinews

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Two injured in Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade

November 24, 2005 Two women were injured today when an M&M's balloon in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade hit a lightpost, causing the lamp atop the pole to fall upon two spectators. Two women, aged 11 and 26 were struck around 11:30 AM local time (1630 UTC) at West 43rd Street and Seventh Avenue. The women were visiting from Albany, New York to attend the parade. Neither sustained any serious injuries, and were released from the hospital by late afternoon.

Parade organizers were uncertain up to an hour before the parade began whether or not the participation of balloons would be limited. Conditions for the parade were windy, and there was a sprinkle of rain during the event, but it is unclear if the weather played a role in the accident.

The annual parade had a similar incident in 1997, when a Cat in the Hat balloon hit a lightpost, making it collapse. Two serious injuries were reported, both of whom recovered.

The Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade has occurred every year since 1922, except from 1942 to 1944 during World War II.


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Talk:Venezuela provides discounted heating oil to Massachusetts

I cant find any comment by Hugo Chávez about this. Help! International 03:11, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
 * maybe in here somewhere? I will look later. Neutralizer 15:22, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, lot of material.International 23:00, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Here are intresting links if anywikinewsie like to expand: http://www.twincities.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/americas/13221493.htm?source=rss&channel=miamiherald_americas http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-venoil25nov25,0,3180240.story?coll=la-home-business http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/ International 00:48, 26 November 2005 (UTC)


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Brian Lara becomes second person to score 11 000 runs

November 25, 2005

Hotshot batsman Brian Lara has become the second player in test cricket history to score 11,000 runs. Brian achieved the milestone while delivering a characteristic century to his West Indies team score sheet during day one of the final Test against Australia in Adelaide. Lara scored an unbeaten 106 by tea and cucumber sandwich time and is now only 107 runs behind Test record holder Allan Border, who plundered and pillaged 11,174 runs in 265 innings.

Lara already holds the records for the highest Test and first-class scores, 400 not out and 501 respectively.


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I couldn't understand one sentence in the article. I guess my understanding of cricket lingo needs some brushing up. - Apollyon 13:55, 25 November 2005 (UTC)


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Calvin-Hope rivalry gets new digs

November 25, 2005

ESPN recently named the basketball rivalry between Calvin College and Hope College fourth greatest across all divisions of the NCAA, although fans had a different perspective. Now when the rivalry makes its way to Holland, the teams will have a new facility in which to square off.

Hope College has put the finishing touches on the new 102,000 sq ft Richard and Helen DeVos Fieldhouse, whose foundation contributed the $7.5 million anchor gift. Designed by sports architectural firm Ellerbe Becket, the fieldhouse will hold about 3,400 fans for basketball, volleyball and will also be used as a venue for college and community events.

The state of the art facility will also house Hope’s department of kinesiology which includes athletic training, exercise science and physical education. In addition to the construction of the fieldhouse, Hope added a new science center in 2003 and renovated the Peale Science Center for ’04-05.

Ellerbe Becket has designed nearly 20 arenas for NBA and NHL teams, including the new facility for the Charlotte Bobcats.

Calvin visits Hope Saturday, 14 January 2006, and hosts the Flying Dutchman 8 February 2006.

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Confidential EU report about Israels annexation of East Jerusalem

November 28, 2005

A confidential report, prepared by top diplomats representing the 25 EU governments, has been leaked to The Independent. European Foreign Ministers put in a veto when publication of the report was planned. They will not risk its relationship with Israel. For the first time, Israel has given its blessing to the EU to play a key security role in the region.

According to The Independent, the report provides the most detailed and remorselessly critical account yet produced by a Western international body of Israel's policy in East Jerusalem. The 11-page page document concludes that European governments should consider direct intervention in an attempt to curb the systematic measures being undertaken by Israel to increase its control and population in the historically - and legally - Arab eastern sector of Jerusalem.

During discussions at last Monday's meeting, EU foreign ministers decided to express "deep concern" over Israel's activities in East Jerusalem and its surroundings, including establishing settlements, constructing the West Bank barrier and demolishing homes.

Israel's policies in Arab East Jerusalem are hurting the prospects of a final agreement on the city with the Palestinians. A major expansion of Ma'ale Adumim, the largest Israeli West Bank settlement, will be joined to Jerusalem and this threatens to complete the encircling of the city by Jewish settlements, dividing the West Bank into two separate geographical areas.

In the 1967 Six-Day War Israel seized East Jerusalem, along with the rest of the West Bank and Gaza, and claims the city as its "united and eternal capital". Palestinians want East Jerusalem as the capital of a future state of their own.


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Peter Forsberg scores two in win over the Boston Bruins

November 25, 2005

In Friday's National Hockey League contest between the Philadelphia Flyers and the Boston Bruins at the TD Banknorth Garden in Boston, Massachusetts. Peter Forsberg almost netted his first "hat trick" in a Flyers uniform. At one point during the game, he had been given credit for three goals, however an official review took his first goal away, and officially he scored his eighth goal of the season at 13:06 in the second period with assists from Simon Gagne and former Hartford Whaler Sami Kapanen.

To date, there have been 24 hat tricks (3 or more goals in one game) in this NHL season.

Forsberg, a 32 year old native of Sweden, recently joined the Flyers for the 2005-2006 season after spending the NHL lockout season with Modo, Sweden.

The Flyers ended up winning the game 5-3, adding yet another loss to an already disappointing Bruins season.


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User talk:Deprifry/Archive3

Archive1 Archive2

"Oh thank you love, thank you very much, look I'm sorry I forgot to mention you on my Academy award winning speech, but there were so many people to thank love all of whom were much frankly more important than you, so if your calling to complain please leave a message after the beep:"

Very good work on the WoW...  -  Amgine | talk 23:52, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, same to you. I think this fella now has a pretty thick layer of blocks ;) --Deprifry|+T+ 23:56, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

un-delay delay
OK on the date thing. But when I look at my talk page (http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:216.237.179.238) and click on the edit link for the "Welcome" section, I get an edit page with an edit box that I can't actually edit anything in. If I click the edit link for the entire talk page it omits that section from the edit text. The legend at the top of the edit page says why: "This page has been locked to prevent editing; there are a number of reasons why this may be so, please see Project:Protected page." I figured since you were the one who put the Welcome section into my talk page that you'd set a lock bit somewhere. 216.237.179.238 20:52, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Ok. That happens because I used a template to send you the welcome, and that template is protected. If you want to edit your page just hit the big "edit this page" (instead of the smaller "edit" in the text) button at the top of the page. --Deprifry|+T+ 21:02, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

thanks
thanks for fixing my accidental post to user:Ajdlinux's user page instead of his talk page. i must just be tired by now! :) -- IlyaHaykinson 09:25, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
 * No problem :) --Deprifry|+T+ 09:31, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Hello
Hey Dep, thanks for the welcome to WikiNews. I have a wikipedia account, although I'm not sure if I want to bring it over here, or I want to edit pages with an account at all. Although I must say, the biggest concern I have with WikiNews is that people not trained in journalism are attempting to write journalism articles...there is a proper way to do it and a proper style to follow, which many people really don't know. Thus, just about every page here could use lots of edits. Thanks again. --147.124.49.89 19:23, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, I think we're all amateurs here, many of us didn't have any journalism experience at all before joining Wikinews. But I think everyone is more or less capable of writing articles, maybe not at New Yorker-level, but still solid. Plus we have our Style Guide to help us with that. And I guess thats what Citizen journalism is about, being able to write news without having to go through three years of college. --Deprifry|+T+ 20:06, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

It's ok.
—M ESSED R OCKER (talk) 13:53, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the Reverts
--elliot_k 15:27, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
 * No problem. --Deprifry|+T+ 15:29, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Rfda on Amgine
Hi Deprify,

MrM deleted my Rfda on Amgine although the previous Rfda on Amgine has been withdrawn. I have a health situation that allows me online rarely; I trust you will replace the Rfda I just put on; as I do not have the energy for an edit war with those 2. Paulrevere2005 02:05, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the DR maintainance!
Thank you very much for taking care of WN:DR while I wasn't! —M ESSED R OCKER (talk) 22:31, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * No problem. --Deprifry|+T+ 12:47, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Redirects
Hello, I will try to fix redirects if I can when I rename articles, but you are not in a position to give users orders. Like all wikis, if you see a problem, fix it! --MateoP 15:03, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Ok, in future I will simply pull the articles into development and request a rename. The policies should not stacked in order to discourage participation.  --MateoP 15:27, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

please don't revert Wikinews:Administrators
please don't revert Wikinews:Administrators. the reason I edited out your comment was because it was unrelated to the topic of the discussion: the request for adminship of user Nyarlathotep. thanks, i put it on the comment section but i guess you did not see it. glad we cleared this up. --MateoP 22:41, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * You accused me of something on a community discussion page. I have the right to defend myself there so that others, who see your accusation, can see my rebuttal. --Deprifry|+T+ 22:45, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * It's irrelevant to the discussion. I said that in addition to replying about the user Nyarlathotep's request for adminship.  YOu simply stated something off-topic.  That's what user talk pages are for.  The discussion in question wasn't about you in any way.  --MateoP 22:52, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree. But you were the one who started going off-topic when you named me and thus giving me every right to respond. --Deprifry|+T+ 22:57, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Incorrect, I was responding to someone else, so that person should be directed for going off-topic, if that is what you believe. I related my comment into what I was talking about with the adminship, you did not.  Your post was in no way related to the adminship question.  Your response was unnecessary, you didn't need to defend yourself as your status was/is not in jeopardy.  It would be like debating over irrelevant issues on a wikipedia talk page.  If someone says something irrelevant, just ignore it, or tell them on their talk page not to.  Don't drag the discussion further off topic.  Thanks.  clarified.  --MateoP 00:22, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Woa. You spread lies about me on a page that is visited by the entire community and you expect me to respond on your talk page where perhaps 1/10 of the people visiting WN:A see it? Is that what you are saying? You have got to be kidding, man. --Deprifry|+T+ 00:28, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

yeah i noticed
It should be fixed now (limited to 30) however it shouldn't put that much. I remember reading somewhere it was limited so that wouldn't happen. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:09, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I tried it about a month ago to see what would happen, and I'm pretty sure that didn't happen. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 23:13, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

YOU HAVE DELETED AN IMPORTANT ARTICLE
I DEMAND AN EXPLANATION Chileno 01:04, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

out of bounds
deleting an article is ok. but you act unilaterally without discussing things. this supposed news is no more than 20 minutes old. you're acting like you've solved the JFK murder instantly, with no community involvement. exercise patience and group discussion. --MateoP 01:20, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but have you actually read the thing? Chileno posted quotes from various high ranking Chilean personalities, including the president, who reportetely said "I was eating nachos, just like Allende was before the coup, when I saw the news." The guy was obviously, obviously playing a prank on us. And btw, I'm still waiting for the response of our discussion above. --Deprifry|+T+ 01:23, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * And the Speedy Deletion guideline says reasons for deletion includes "Obvious hoaxes, spoofs, April Fools-type pranks or other works of fiction that damage the credibility of Wikinews". --Deprifry|+T+ 01:28, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I know it is probably a hoax. After all I contributed to the article immediately after it was written and have been watching TVN and Chilevision looking for any type of conformation, but there is none.  And I pointed out the fact that the presidential candidates had already commented on the death 10 minutes before you brought it up.  So yeah, I "read the thing".  But I also realize that it's a wikimedia-wide policy to assume good intent.  That means you have to wait longer than 20 minutes to start deleting articles and banning users.
 * It was pretty clear from the start, with all the quotes, that the guy was out to spread misinformation. And he only continued on the talk page, as you have seen, so assuming good faith went indeed away pretty fast. --Deprifry|+T+ 01:44, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * You made no attempt to talk about it with the community. If you had read the article heading, it said that it was being discussed in IRC, which it was, and we were discussing about what should be done with the article.  You acted unilaterally as though you own wikinews.  You don't.  That speedy deletion guideline you cite says that articles can be moved temporarily to user space.  I volunteer mine.  --MateoP 01:48, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I believe I did use the discussion page. There you said it was a hoax, I said it was a hoax and it was obvious from the body of the article that It could have been nothing else than that. So I deleted it to protect the integrity of Wikinews. At your request, you can find it now here. --Deprifry|+T+ 11:21, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * By the way, what response is necessary to "our discussion above"? You think it's perfectly all right to drag discussions completely off topic.  Sorry, wikinews isn't a chat room.  I'm not going to repeat the obvious fact over and over because you don't get it.  --MateoP 01:33, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * What I find sad is that you reserve the right for yourself to make false statements about other users but then don't allow those who you addressed to respond. --Deprifry|+T+ 01:44, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Listen, when you make requests on a talk page to do some rare task that a person has never done before, I assume it's a demand and I'm obligated to do so. You didn't clarify that.  I don't know if you speak any other languages, but "Redirect fixs" is a command in most languages (in english it can be depending on context and voice inflection).  As I see it, you don't request or ask anyone to do anything on wikis.  That's the point of wikis.  Users contribute what they want.  Remember it's everyone's kernel of knowledge combined.  The most you do is make a person aware of something that needs to be done.  But you don't ask that they do it.   For all purposes you should assume that every edit I (or anyone else) makes is going to be my last.  --MateoP 02:10, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * A rare task? You are actually obliged, not by me, but by both MediaWiki:Movepagetext and MediaWiki:Pagemovedtext (those are the messages you get during the move process) to fix the redirects. The former say under the big headline "Read this" :"be sure to check for and fix double or broken redirects by checking the "What links here" page for your newly renamed article. You are responsible for making sure that links continue to point where they are supposed to go.". I just assumed you somehow didn't noticed that so I left a friendly request on your talk page to make you aware. And it certainly wasn't a demand. A demand requires the imperative mood which in turn requires a verb. There wasn't any in the headline you mentioned so there is no way this could be seen as a command. "Fix the redirects", that would have been a command. And I did clarify it here. --Deprifry|+T+ 11:21, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * MediaWiki:Movepagetext is a page, just like any other, written by a user who doesn't have authority to make up policy on their own. The fact that it's a protected page and can't be edited doesn't mean anyone is obliged.  No one is obliged to do anything other than what they want to do.  That's a wikimedia wide fact.  If you have a problem with it, change the policy.  I'll continue to change titles, when written in eurocentric terms, without changing the redirects, which I neither know how to do nor want to waste my time doing.  If you want to fix them, do so.  If not, don't.  That's why it's a wiki.  --MateoP 19:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * As much as I hate to get involved in a fistacuffs when you're in the 9th round, I'd suggest that you both read my comments on the Pincohet article. I'll save my Chileanisms and sarcasm for later... -- NeoAmsterdam 19:46, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually pages in the MediaWiki namespace aren't really written by users here, they are provided by the software, in this case User:MediaWiki default. They describe technical necessities, things that need to be done to keep the site running smoothly. And they exist Wikimedia wide. And if you didn't know how to fix the redirects why didn't you say so? I would have been, and still am, willing to show you how to do it. And in other news, our mutual friend from yesterday found a new target: Former Paraguayan president Alfredo Stroessner dies at 93 --Deprifry|+T+ 20:38, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * ARE YOU ACCUSING ME OF BEING A SOCKPUPPET TO BLOCK ME. I GAVE YOU A SOURCE AND YOU IGNORE ME''. Paraguayo 20:51, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

New Article
Hi, do you mind if I copy your new article box, to my userpage? cheers Brian New Zealand 01:26, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * No, not at all. :) --Deprifry|+T+ 01:29, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

WTF?
WHo are you to say that the Stroessner article is wrong? You're not even Paraguayan or Brazilian. Paraguayo 20:34, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * If you are willing to provide a credible source for the article I'd more than happy to publish it. And ou don't happen to be related to User:Chileno, are you? --Deprifry|+T+ 20:38, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I have no idea who chileno is. I'm paraguayan, not chilean. Are you accusing me of being a sockpuppet now? Here's a source on the news: www.diarionoticias.com.py
 * I'm sorry, but I get a timeout on this, the server is probably overloaded because all the world wants to see this incredible news. --Deprifry|+T+ 20:51, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

 * OH SURE. I can see the headline perfectly: STROESSNER MUERTO EN BRASILIA. You're lying so you can block me. Just like you're accusing me of being Chileno. Nice tactic. Paraguayo 20:52, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Screenshot: http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7127/15xj1.jpg.

 * According to Julián Ortega this may have been a hoax by "noticias", like an April Fool's prank. I will apologize if this is true. Paraguayo 22:00, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

copyvios
If I want to write up an article which was previously submitted as a total copyvio, like say 22 Journalists Are Faced With Jail should I first delete the article and the rewrite, to purge the copyvio from the history. Or do we care about copyvios in the history? Nyarlathotep 15:40, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * The best way is probably to start rewriting the story at 22 Journalists Are Faced With Jail in Turkey/Temp, then delete the original article and then move 22 Journalists Are Faced With Jail in Turkey/Temp to 22 Journalists Are Faced With Jail in Turkey. Copyvios in the history are generally bad because they are still accessible. --Deprifry|+T+ 17:35, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Okay, sadly, I just discovered that I don't have an appartment to move into when I move back to Lyon, France, so I suspect this weekend will be spent entirely combing appartment ads, and I probably won't fix that particular sotry, but its good tgo know the procedure. :(  Nyarlathotep 18:50, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry to hear that; I kinda know this sort of trouble :). --Deprifry|+T+ 19:08, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

re:"Royals Highlight Forgotten Island"
Thanks for your quick action. I was thinking to proceed as you did with "22 Journalists Are Faced With Jail in Turkey" article. You have done it all before I moved an inch. Super. :-) Tomos 22:39, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) --Deprifry|+T+ 22:40, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey!
Hey Deprifry! I'm back. Isn't it incredible how all of these South American dictators are dying all of a sudden? First Pinochet, then Stroessner, who's next? Videla? Oh, and it was hilarious hoy my article got you and MateoP into this big stupid fight. Best regards, -chileno 23:12, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

What's going on?
Why do you insist that I lie? It is quite probable that the news isn't in the major news sites because, after all, Bermúdez is a pretty obscure statesmen when one compares him to other Latin American dictators. Please try and be nicer. Thanks Peruano 17:49, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * So obscure that Peruvian newspapers like El comercio, La Republica and Gestion won't report his death? --Deprifry|+T+ 18:03, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, sure. The Bermúdez régime is one of the most obscure in history. Peruano 18:41, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

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User:Brentmid

Go check out my blog at Midwood.net:

http://www.midwood.net/blogs/index.htm

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"YES" VOTES

 * 1) --Cspurrier 15:30, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Brian McNeil / talk 15:58, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) - Amgine 04:07, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

"NO" VOTES

 * 1) --Whywhywhy 13:23, 19 November 2005 (UTC) NULL
 * 2) --Neutralizer 02:56, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:Mrmiscellanious/Vote/1

i would have voted no on this sentence alone. "outcome of the poll is not intended to be used for any purposes by any persons" being a blatant lie--Whywhywhy 13:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
 * It will not be used for any purposes by anyone - and if it is, render it null-and-void. They are only given to give myself an idea on how the community feels on issues.  --Mrmiscellanious 16:41, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
 * ima sorry to have to have to inform you that "They are only given to give myself an idea on how the community feels on issues" is a intended purpose, for a use by a person namely being you. This wouldnt bother me in a normal poll but your a editor and i am mystified how you cant tell this as a editor.--Whywhywhy 05:29, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
 * You've commented on your vote, I gave you leeway the first time. But it is now nullified.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 16:10, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
 * If the poll doesn't matter at all and you're the only one it should matter to why should we care whether a vote is nullified or not? Why nullify anything at all if a poll has no purpose? --Chiacomo (talk) 00:34, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

No-ish
Both Wikinews & Wikipedia slowly tend towards cliquishness & admin problems. I think all adminships should be temporary, like one year. Of course, size of userbase should be a major factor in such policies, as you can't have rotating admins if you don't have enough people. :) Not you personally, just a comment on adminships in general.  - 172.177.30.116 22:39, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Peter Forsberg scores two in win over the Boston Bruins

Very poor article. What is a "hat trick"? What sport is being played? The writer seems to have no awareness that he or she is addressing an international audience who may not necessarily share the same interests. --CitizenBruce 20:27, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Okay - point taken. This is my first try at an article out here. I'll see what I can do to dress it up. Thanks for the feed back. --brentmid 21:57, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
 * There's some useful links (usually) posted on your talk page. You can also look at other articles and see how wiki code can give you entries to Wikipedia on things like people and subjects.  Of course, writing for an international audience complicates things.  I know what a "hat trick" is, but as has been pointed out not everyone does.  Try to put together a paragraph that uses the term and both explains it by ennumerating each point scored, or referring to scoring three times. Brian McNeil / talk 22:13, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Much better now :) The article though still leaves me with the feeling of: "Who is Peter Forsberg and why should I care?". Still, this can perhaps partly be attributed by non-inclination toward sport news. Cheers. --CitizenBruce 22:54, 25 November 2005 (UTC)


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User talk:4.248.66.39

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Talk:Singers Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey split up

Advoiding?(Reworked)
"Simpson and Lachey began advoiding their troubled marriage to the press in early October 2005."

I'm not sure what that word means. Karen 20:41, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Probably avoiding any indication to the press that their marriage was in trouble, I would think. --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 20:42, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's really a word. Also, sources don't support the 'advoidance' - the closest reference is from AP: "In the December-January issue of Teen People, which went on newsstands earlier this month, Simpson denied rumors that the marriage was kaput." Karen 20:55, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Seems to me that "advoiding" is just a misspelling of "avoiding", still not quite the best wording. I think rewording "begain advoiding" (sic) to "denied" would be best. If anyone has any better ideas, give it a shot. Karen 21:00, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
 * The rewording as of 22:52, 25 November 2005 did wonders for the clarity of this article - Good work, whoever did it!

The intext of wikipedia links are set. This should all the necessary links. Thanks for the rewording...I guess I have to work on grammar. Thanks


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Hello and welcome to Wikinews! Im quite new myself, and working to try to understand all things around. About the articlename-change, as I understand there can be someting wrong if some other article link to the old one, not sure. Happy Wikinewsing!
 * Me tired, wallabies...ignore the articlechange part :) International 04:53, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

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Turkey found buried alive in an Austin, Texas yard

November 25, 2005

Before the McIntire family of Austin, Texas sat down for their Thanksgiving dinner Thursday, the family discovered something unusual: a live turkey buried in their front yard.

The eldest child of the family, Sean, was returning from work yesterday when he stumbled upon the patch of fresh dirt in his yard. He called his father out to look at the patch, then proceeded to examine its contents. The family then discovered the thirteen pound (6 kg) turkey buried in the hole; the turkey was still breathing. They kept the turkey in a dog cage, ate thanksgiving dinner, then took the turkey to a veterinarian where it died during examination.

"The turkey must have been alive in the ground for at least 2 days" said Bill Rogers, the McIntires' veterinarian, "It takes at least that long for a turkey to starve to death." No legal assistance has been given to the McIntires to find the person who buried the turkey, although the McIntires say the act violates animal cruelty laws.


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Talk:Turkey found buried alive in an Austin, Texas yard

Reporting Notes
Sean McIntire is my friend and he found the turkey yesterday, I went to his house and followed him to the vet to get this unusuual story...

Conversation with sean after the incident, on the phone:
 * Sean:- Hey, guess what, I just found a f*cking turkey buried in the ground
 * Me:- A f*cking, like, a butterball turkey?
 * Sean:- No, A live turkey
 * Me:- What the f*ck
 * Sean:- Wanna come over and see this sh*t?
 * Me:- Yeah I will in a couple of hours when I finish dinner.

-Upon Arrival, standing in the front yard with sean and his dad:
 * Mr Mcintire:- And he was right here, in this hole
 * me:- did you find out who did it?
 * Mr Mcintire:- never
 * Sean:- were gonna go to the vet tonight, so if you wanna stay over, youve gotta find somewhere to be
 * Me:- nah, im gonna write on this
 * Sean:- what? ok... so you wanna go?
 * Me:- yes

At the vet's:
 * Rogers:- This turkey is dying
 * Me:- So, what caused the death
 * Rogers:- This trukey starved to death... The turkey must have been alive in the ground for at least 2 days, it takes at least that long for a turkey to -starve to death
 * Me:- so who could have done this?
 * Rogers:- The turkey is only 13 pounds, so pretty much anyone with a shovel

(These unsigned reporting notes were made by Paco The Immigrant)

What a riot!
This is great! --Chiacomo (talk) 00:03, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm glad that you think animal cruelty is "great". Lankiveil 00:57, 26 November 2005 (UTC).
 * Yeah, the article's good too. —M ESSED R OCKER (talk) 00:59, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm sure he meant the article. Always good to see original reporting. - Apollyon 22:41, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I still think my fire story is better. Because it has pictures... and fire... fire good. ;) But really, good story.. I didn't acutally quote people. --TUFKAAP 00:04, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

I think small little strange stories like this is Wikinews at its best. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:36, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Other comments

 * You and your friend seem to swear an awful lot, young man! Lankiveil 00:57, 26 November 2005 (UTC).
 * At least he reported the unadultered version. —M ESSED R OCKER (talk) 00:59, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * He only said "f*ck" twice... --TUFKAAP 00:01, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Stupid
Sorry I read that -Edbrown05 02:31, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

hmm
I dont really know what to say but, is this a good article?International 19:19, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Now I see, wackynews, that explain it.International 19:23, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Well i would not be surpriesd if shawn did this (it happens you know)


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User talk:Paco The Immigrant

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Turkey found buried alive at local thanksgiving feast
Hey there Paco, that's sensational original reporting! However, we at Wikinews require that all original reporting requires reporting notes. Can you supply them on the talk page of the article, or if you can't supply notes, give me a phone number I can call to verify the information in the article? You can respond to my question on my talk page. —M ESSED R OCKER (talk) 22:18, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the story. I really enjoyed it. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:03, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your compliance throughout the writing process! You've earned the award I've brandished on your user page. —M ESSED R OCKER (talk) 23:03, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Confidential EU report about Israels annexation of East Jerusalem

Suggest that third paragraph, which contains details of the report, be moved closer to the introduction of the article. Also, BBC account of this report could be used to add clarity to the story. cogito

Suggest that third paragraph, which contains details of the report, be moved closer to the beginning of the article. Also, BBC account of the report adds details which provide clarity to the story. cogito


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EU cuts sugar subsidies

November 25, 2005

The European Union agreed to reform its sugar subsidies Thursday. The EU has been under pressure by other members of the World Trade Organization to change its agriculture sector. The EU has been blamed for stalling trade talks at the recent APEC convention.

The EU offered a guaranteed price, paid by consumers, with Brussels buying at about three times the average world market price. The WTO ruled the EU's sugar prices to be illegal earlier this year after following complaints from Australia, Brazil, and Thailand. The reform package, going into effect in 2006, drops the guaranteed price by 36% and will make 6.3 billion euros (about $10 billion US dollars) available to EU sugar farmers and refiners.

This reform package will help the EU's negotiations in the WTO.

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MediaWiki talk:Uploadtext

I tried to make this easier to use. kinda mimicking w:special:upload. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:48, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Spelling
"Most images on the Internet can not be used." Cannot is one word. --Pmsyyz 11:27, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion
editprotected

You don't need to create an account on Commons if you have a global account, so that text might not need to be included any more. Stifle (talk) 16:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ — Good point. Gopher65talk 22:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I added a line about SUL, as most people who don't know about commons, don't have a merged account (in my unqualified opinion). Bawolff ☺☻ 04:28, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

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Taibu quits Zimbabwe cricket team after further threats

November 26, 2005

Tatenda Taibu, the captain of the Zimbabwe cricket team, has announced that he will stand down from international cricket, after further threats were made against him by controversial Zimbabwean cricket figure Themba Mliswa.

Taibu alleges that he was threatened by Mliswa at a meeting with Zimbabwe Cricket Board chairman Peter Chingoka at a meeting earlier this week. He claims that Mliswa said to him "If you thought it is over it is not. Your time is coming and I will get you".

Taibu had earlier gone into hiding when he received a telephone call, allegedly from Mliswa, in which threats were made against him and his wife and child. He says he is now considering his options, and a move to playing provincial cricket in South Africa, or county cricket in England appears likely. The largely state-controlled Zimbabwean media has largely attempted to portray the defection as a money issue, or a racial issue, and has not aired Taibu's allegations publicly.

Zimbabwe cricket has lurched from crisis to crisis recently, as political appointees from the Mugabe regime infiltrate the sport's governing structure. Many of the country's top players have either fled the country or turned their backs on the game, including Henry Olonga who fled into exile after having an arrest warrant issued in his name for treason, after stating that democracy was dead in Zimbabwe at the 2003 Cricket World Cup.


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23rd Southeast Asian Games officially begins November 27

November 26, 2005

The Philippines will host the 23rd edition of the Southeast Asian Games starting Sunday. The host nation is not just hoping to gain the overall championship, but also seeking to boost its tourism industry. With the venues of the Games spread around the tropical country, officials were taking advantage of the 10-day sporting event to showcase some of the Philippines' best tourist destinations. Some events will be held in the cities of Bacolod and Cebu, and suburbs near Metro Manila. It is also for the first time in the history of the Southeast Asian Games, the opening ceremony will be held in an open-air park instead of in a stadium. Philippine President Gloria Arroyo, will lead the nation in welcoming more than 7,000 athletes, officials and members of the participating countries – Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, Singapore, Thailand, East Timor, Vietnam and the host.

Cebu opened the 23rd Southeast Asian (SEA) Games yesterday with pomp and pageantry. The SEA Games welcome ceremony, served as the "appetizer" for the formal opening in Manila.

Security is tight with a 17,000-strong police force on alert to ensure the safety of the thousands of athletes and officials taking part, amid the threat of possible attacks by militants.

The government is also determined to impose a strict smoking ban throughout the duration of 23rd Southeast Asian Games. No one will be allowed to smoke within a 50-meter radius from venues in Metro Manila, Bacolod City, Cebu City, the Subic freeport in Zambales province, Angeles City in Pampanga province, Tagaytay in Cavite province, and Los Baños and Calamba in Laguna province. The ban also covers any form of advertisement of tobacco companies.

A total of 41 events, 441 gold medals are up for grabs, with the Philippine martial art arnis as well as ballroom dancing making their debuts.

The basketball event was cancelled after a dispute involving the Philippines Olympic Council (POC) and Basketball Association of Philippines (BAP), which saw the former expelling the latter. POC and BAP were later embroiled in a court case, which apparently ruled in favour of BAP's reinstatement.

In an unexpected move, representatives of the Philippines' largest Muslim separatist group will attend the opening of the SEA Games as a "goodwill measure", a rebel spokesman said yesterday.

Eid Kabalu, spokesman for the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), said he and four other rebel officials would attend the event to show his group's sincerity in seeking peace in the strife-torn southern region of Mindanao.

However, in the capital, there are hardly any banners to herald the 23rd SEA Games. There is no excitement and even the mascot, the eagle, is nowhere in sight. Inconvenienced and incensed by the treatment, the ten visiting countries blasted hosts Philippines for poor arrangements before the start of the 23rd SEA Games.


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Asian Games story
Can you give actual URLs for the stories you used as sources on this please? I looked at one site and can't find any article specifically on the games in the sports section. The other just isn't navigable so I've no idea where they've hidden their story on the subject. If you've read a longer list of articles to build yours, then I'm afraid you need to cite 'em all. Brian McNeil / talk 08:11, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

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Category:November 26, 2005

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title: Category:November 26, 2005


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Japanese probe snatches first asteroid sample

November 26, 2005 The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency has achieved the primary goal of the Hayabusa probe's mission by touching down on the surface of an asteroid in an attempt to collect a sample of what is thought to be the oldest material in the solar system.

Despite an earlier aborted attempt, and the apparent loss of an exploratory "micro rover", Hayabusa's achievement is significant. No other mission has attempted to bring back material from an asteroid which is believed to be a remnant from the formation of the solar system.

The actual success of the mission to the Itokawa asteroid cannot actually be known until 2007 when the probe returns to Earth. Only at that time can it be established if firing a metal pellet into the surface of the asteroid disturbed it enough to allow a sample to be obtained.