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United Nations Report: Deserts threatened by global warming

June 5, 2006 A new report, titled "Global Deserts Outlook," has been released on World Environment Day by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP). The report suggests that the world's deserts face dramatic changes as a result of global climate change: high water demands, tourism and salt contamination of irrigated soils. Desert margins and mountainous areas within deserts that have been important for people, wildlife and water supplies for millennia, are under particular threat, say UNEP.

2006 is the United Nations' International Year of Deserts and Desertification. Yet deserts could become the "carbon-free power houses of the 21st century," some experts believe. They argue an area 800 by 800 km of desert, such as the Sahara, could capture the solar energy to generate all the world's electricity needs - and more.

The report, prepared by experts from across the globe, flags options that may help governments and relevant bodies deliver a more sustainable future for the Earth's desert regions.

"There are many popular and sometimes misplaced views of deserts which this report either confirms or overturns. Far from being barren wastelands, they emerge as biologically, economically and culturally dynamic while being increasingly subject to the impacts and pressures of the modern world," said Shafqat Kakakhel, UNEP's Officer in Charge and Deputy Executive Director.

"If the huge, solar-power potential of deserts can be economically harnessed the world has a future free from fossil fuels. And tourism based around desert nature can, if sensitively managed, deliver new prospects and perspectives for people in some of the poorest parts of the world," said Mr Kakakhel.

Almost one-quarter of the earth's land surface – some 33.7 million square kilometres – has been defined as "desert" in some sense. These deserts are inhabited by over 500 million people, significantly more than previously thought. In many parts of the world desert cores remain pristine, representing some of the planet's "last remaining areas of total wilderness," stated the UNEP in a news release.

Desert species are on the brink of extinction the Global Deserts Outlook reports. At risk animals include various species of Gazelle, Oryx, Addax, Arabian Tahr and the Barbary sheep as well as one of the falconers favourite prey, the Houbara. "At greatest risk are the few patches of dry woodlands associated with desert mountain habitats which may decline by up to 3.5 per cent per year," said the study.

As a result of their valuable water supplies being diverted to domestic or agricultural use, desert wetlands, fed by the large rivers crossing deserts, are probably the most threatened ecosystem. Probable impacts include those created by roads, settlement expansion and other infrastructure developments around areas of desert montane. By 2050 the report estimates that desert wilderness - those areas where there are no nearby roads - will decline from just under 60 per cent of the current total desert area to just over 30 per cent.

The pharmaceutical potential of desert plants has yet to be tapped, suggests the report. Scientists across the globe are analysing many desert plants for potential medicinal compounds - including anti-cancer and anti-malarial substances, antioxidants, as well as appetite suppressants.

Impact of climate change
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), who advise governments and the United Nations, have reported that temperatures in deserts could rise by an average of as much as five to seven degrees by 2100. The problem, UNEP say, will almost certainly be compounded by the melting of glaciers - whose waters sustain many deserts.

The impacts of climate change include the transformation of semi-arid rangelands into deserts, UNEP reports. They say water supplies are under threat from salinization and pollution by pesticides and herbicides, and that rising water tables beneath irrigated soils has led to more salinization of soils.

In some coastal areas ground-water supplies have been contaminated as seawater invades subsurface waters, the report shows. Large rivers that run through deserts have supported desert people for millennia, but many have been dammed, with water loss downstream having led to serious impacts on flood plains and river ecology.


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Australian charities slam new welfare rules

June 5, 2006 Australia's biggest charity organisations are refusing to cooperate with the Howard government's reform rules. The federal government expects about 18,000 people a year will lose their payments for eight weeks when the new welfare-to-work regime comes into force on July 1.

Only 23 organisations have signed up to a government registry to "financially case manage" the most vulnerable unemployed, who will be left without income under tougher rules. has told Fairfax newspapers it will not participate because it believes the welfare shake-up is unjust.

About 18,000 people a year, according to the Government, are expected to lose their benefit for infringements of job search rules. Those with dependants, and those deemed "exceptionally vulnerable," will be eligible for case management by a charity on the government register.

But the Brotherhood of St Laurence and the have refused to register. The moral dilemma of whether to become an agent for a policy some believe is "unjust" may be contemplated by the, and others.

Charities will be paid $650 to manage each eligible unemployed person it assigns them, the Government has said. It wants charities to assess a person's "essential" expenses and notify, which would then decide whether or not to pay the bills.

Director of Lin Hatfield Dodds said she did not expect many of the 400 agencies in her network to sign up to be case managers. has also not registered. Sue Leppert, executive director of Anglicare Australia, said many of her member agencies would definitely not register and others were grappling with the issue.

Many Australian charities strongly oppose the policy of stripping all income from unemployed people for infringements. There is much concern that sole parents and many disabled people will be diverted from specific pensions to the Newstart Allowance. They will then be subject to stringent job search rules, potential infringements and harsh penalties.

Charities also have been alarmed that under the new policy, people can immediately lose their payment for eight weeks if they refuse a job offer, are dismissed for misconduct, or are voluntarily unemployed.

The executive director of the Brotherhood of St Laurence Tony Nicholson said the policy was unjust. "First they suffer an eight-week suspension of payment, and to add insult to injury they have to justify to some case manager their expenditure on their meagre income."

Sole parents whose youngest child has turned six, and disabled people who are assessed as capable of working 15 hours per week, will no longer be granted a pension under the Welfare to Work plan.

At the launch of a nation-wide advertising campaign for the government reform,  said: "the advertising campaign is part of an education process designed to encourage more people on income support to move into work." "The Howard Government is investing $3.7 billion to deliver greater employment services and other assistance, including rehabilitation, to those people required to look for work," said Minister Hockey.

A spokesman for the Minister said the Government was trying to ensure "rents will be paid and kids won't get tossed out of home" if parents failed to meet their job search obligations.

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U.K. doctors successfully transplant a beating heart

June 5, 2006

British doctors have successfully transplanted a beating heart into the chest of a 58-year old man, the first operation of its kind in the United Kingdom.

The "trial" surgery was performed at Papworth Hospital just outside of London, England in Cambridge. The operation could be "equivalent if not superior" to the current transplanting methods, doctors said. The method has only been performed two other times, in Germany.

Usually hearts would be injected with potassium, which stopped the heart from beating, after which it would be covered with ice. This put the heart in "suspended animation" but gave doctors only a six-hour window to examine and transplant, doctors said.

"Normally the heart is in suspended animation but they still start to deteriorate," said Professor Bruce Rosengard, head of the team of doctors who operated on the man.

The new method involves connecting the heart to a machine that pumps warm, oxygen enriched blood through the heart. The heart is able to keep beating with this method. The new process allows surgeons to look more closely and longer at the heart for any signs of damage. It also allows them to find a match for whoever may need it.

"Once hearts are hooked up to the device, which takes about 20 minutes, any deterioration is fully reversed. If we look at resuscitating hearts that are currently unusable, the number of transplants could be tripled or quadrupled," added Rosengard. "The goal of this trial is to demonstrate that this is at least equivalent if not superior," he added.

The director of transplants in the United Kingdom Chris Rudge also says that doctors are working on using the same new method with different human organs.

"In the longer term it is not just hearts that can be handled by such systems but other organs too, particularly the liver," said Rudge.

The 58-year old man is doing "extremely well. At his exam one week after the operation, all his functions were absolutely normal," Rosengard said.

At least 19 more operations are planned in the U.K. and in Germany.


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Somali "Anti-Terrorism Alliance" gets US funds; so do "Blackhawk Down" warlords

June 6, 2006 According to , former US intelligence officials said a secret operation to support the in war-torn Somalia appeared to involve both the CIA and. The officials spoke under condition of anonymity.

The warlord factions that in October 1993 led to the withdrawal of American forces from Somalia in 1994. This switch in allegiances from President Clinton's administration have so far not stopped the sharia courts, who have gained control of the capital, Mogadishu.

A key objective of US policy in the region is the US fear of Somalia becoming a safe haven for al-Qaeda. Somalia experts in US say, according to The East African newspaper, that the militias linked to the sharia courts have support among Mogadishu residents. Mohamed Asser, resident, said. "The era of warlords in Somalia is over. This morning Mogadishu is under only one hand, the Islamic courts."

, who served on the in the Clinton administration and now tracks Somalia for the think-tank  said that three alliance leaders recently told him that they were receiving funds from the CIA. "Our assessment is between $100,000 and $150,000 per month," Prendergast said.

Giving money to warlord factions would violate the United Nations' arms embargo against Somalia. The United Nations, which is administering the embargo, is investigating how the warlord alliance came to receive a shipment of weapons. Prendergast believes this policy has resulted in an backlash: "By circumventing the new government and going straight to individual warlords, the US is perpetuating and even deepening Somalia's fundamental problems, and compromising long-term efforts to combat extremism."

The armed militias behind the Islamic courts also are said to receive funds from unnamed sources.

Michael Zorick, former Somalia political officer in the US embassy in Nairobi, Kenya argues that US support of the Somali Alliance for the Restoration of Peace and Counter-Terrorism had increased support for Islamists. According to Zorick, the United States should give more support to the Somali government and push for peace. The analyst's advice went against the, which recently had the regional expert reassigned to Chad.

William Bellamy, US ambassador to Kenya, a country that shares a northern border with Somalia, was willing only to confirm American diplomatic support for the warlords in Somalia. "Lost in the diplomacy and politics is the fact that the US is reaching out in many ways to help improve the lives of ordinary Somalis," Mr Bellamy said. This includes $84 million food aid and many years of peace initiatives. The CIA declined to comment and US government officials refused to discuss any secret US involvement in Somalia, strategically placed in the Horn of Africa.

The Somali government, the Transitional Central Government in city of, a bystander to the recent events, is the 14th of such authorities in Somalia since the overthrow of dictator in 1991. The government is currently seeking talks with the Islamists groups with a view to establishing peace for the country.

According to the Bush administration has deployed about 1,500 US troops in the tiny nation of Djibouti, on Somalia's northern border. That seems to be a part of a US regional strategy if the warlords lose on battlefield.


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Terrorists seize 50 in Iraq

June 7, 2006

On June 5, gunmen, who had posed as police officers, raided a bus station in central Baghdad and captured 50 people. Attackers raided bus stations and seized travellers and local vendors. This happened a day after 21 people were dragged off buses and killed in Diyala province.

Of the 50 people, there are two Syrians and one is an Interior Ministry official. The gunmen rounded up people from the area including people from the many travel agencies that populate the area. The people were then herded into cars and taken away.

"They took all the workers from the company and nearby shops," says Haidar Mohammed Eleibi, who works for the Swan Transportation Co. in the Salihiya business district. Most of the buses at the station were headed to Jordan, Syria and Lebanon.

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Alan Garcia wins Peruvian presidential election

June 5, 2006 Alan Garcia, the former president of Peru in 1985-1990, has once again won the presidential election of Peru in a runoff against candidate Ollanta Humala. Garcia received the majority of the votes in Lima and most of Peru's urban areas, while Humala received most of the votes from the rural areas.

Alan Garcia's first presidential term ended in economic disaster and hyper-inflation and resulted in the popular support for the election of President Fujimori. After his disastrous first term, very few would have considered Garcia's comeback to be possible.

Many in Peru did not like Ollanta Humala's relationship with Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez whom they felt was interfering with Peruvian affairs. Garcia and Chavez have had a clash of words many times before this election and many saw a vote for Garcia as a vote against Humala and Chavez.

Humala accepted his defeat and saluted Garcia and his party. This statement was, however, rejected by Humala's spokeswoman.


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Gunmen enter Palestine TV station in hail of bullets

June 5, 2006

Gunmen forced their way into a building used by Palestinian Television in Khan Younis today. Approximately 15 gunmen fired toward the sky as they stormed the building shouting, "You are collaborators. You are biased. You are dirty people" the staff reported.

The armed men then discharged their weapons wildly into cameras, computers and other equipment leaving one employee of the transmission centre to say, "The whole place is ruined." After wreaking havoc for several minutes and beating up a cameraman, the vandals left.

Palestine TV stopped broadcasting for 30 minutes in protest at the attack.

According to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, leader of the opposition Fatah party, the Hamas government has until midday (0900 GMT) on Tuesday to agree with a manifesto that touches on an issue at the heart of Palestinian politics. The script indirectly recognises Israel as it calls for a Palestinian state to exist beside Israel.

Hamas came to power in the January 2006 elections, overcoming the incumbent Fatah parliament. The party denied being involved in the attack on the television station.

Abbas has threatened a July referendum on the manifesto if parliament does not accept the treatise by the specified time.


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Development time
This article appears to need a further period of time in development. Here are some issues which may need attention:

 * Please avoid making imprecise statements; they may be biased.
 * "This had led critics to say United States policy is at fault." Who, exactly, has said this?
 * Please avoid using "loaded" language
 * "...Islamists have claimed control of..." This statement suggests many things - the group currently in Mogadishu is extremist followers of Islam who may or may not be telling the truth when they say they are currently in control of a city which they have captured by force from opposing forces (who are not extremist followers of Islam.) Furthermore, what is an "Islamist"? who gets to decide who is, and who is not, an Islamist?
 * Do not interpret or editorialize.
 * "Mr Zorick's advice was not warmly taken by the Bush administration who recently had the regional expert resassigned to Chad." Did the Bush administration state they took Mr Zorick's advice coldly?

Please recall that Wikinews has a neutral point of view policy, and is not a soapbox. It is a place to report on single news events or phenomenon. Throughout this article, and not just in the specific examples cited above, there is evidence of POV, proselytizing, and mixing reporting about several news events in disparate settings into a single story.

I really hope, with some effort, this article can be improved from an essay to journalism. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 17:26, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd like to back the above statements, there is an interesting story here, which I do not have enough background information to bring up to our standards/policy requirements. If informed/interested contributors can work on the above concerns and look for more advice on how to work towards what is needed for publication here, I'll try and answer any questions here (on watchlist).  For me this is the first point where Somalia slipping into a "replacement Afghanistan" position has been raised.  If so, this is important news, but it must be free of opinion and editorialising by contributors.  If within the context of the news story you are telling, you can report on the editatorializing or opinions of others - provided things are clearly attributed. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:28, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Ealturner 18:37, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Great comments there. Please edit and be brutal if necessary. I think the War on Terror perspective should be kept. Made some edits already with new quotes making the article at the top a bit more punchy.

Not sure how to format the indepth-type section.

three interesting news subjcts
In this article there is three very conected subjects that is newsy. By looking at the sorces title its obvious. they are: I liked the editorial 'style' of this article. But it is not an editorial, it is newsreporting about a complex situation and its done good imo. To make it up to Wikinews standards, especially as Amgine mention 'single news events or phenomenon', Its better to focus on, and use spcially the first paragraph, to one of above newsitems and use the other as backgroundinfo. I suggest the first one as second is not so newsy and the therd is not verified. international 18:39, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Diplomat moved on after criticising US payments to warlords
 * US funding Somali warlords
 * Islamists claim Mogadishu victory

Ok, ready for moment
I made rough editing, check it up and continue if anywikinesie like international 19:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

another article on subject...
...has been published. Maybe this one can be remade to adress the criticism against US involvment?

Ealturner 20:19, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

They cover it from slightly different angles. The existing one is more on-the-ground-news; it makes no reference to America or American policy in the region. This is a separate story.

Thanks for all the edits. For the first time I enjoyed reading it. :)

Probably could be published now...

Title is POV
War on terror is not the property of the USA; Wake up guys. Redman 00:49, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Bush doesn't own it either. Redman 00:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * US has foreign policy goals. Redman 00:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Ealturner 00:56, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

US goals is weak. War on Terror exists in President Bush's mind - we can agree? Therefore it is Bush's war on terror.
 * Interesting but I think the War on Terror has been adopted by much of the world as theirs...ergo it's no longer "Bush's" not the "U.S.'s" at least that's my opinion. What about something more concrete and less political like "Islamic fighters make gains in Somalia"? Redman 01:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Ealturner 01:11, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

The article began as a piece about Bush's war on terror being set back in Somalia. There is another article June 5 about the Islamic fighters. This is about US policy. We can't discuss US policy without mentioning war on terror. Sorry but war on terror exists in so much George Bush thinks it does. And therefore the events in Somalia are a set back. It's not POV. It's the war on terror is embedded in the social structure of the world. Yap Yap Yap... don't get me started. I'm changing it back and moving it to develop so others can have their say on this as it's obviously a controversial issue.

 * Just wanted to make sure that you guys are aware of the 3RR rule that says you shouldn't revert a page more than 3 times in a 24 hour period - I'm assuming this goes for titles too (it has now been reverted 3 times that I can tell). Perhaps before the title is changed again a concensus should be reached here in the talk page? R2b2 01:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Bush's war on terror is POV...he does not won the war on terror nor does the US. Jason Safoutin 01:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Ealturner 01:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC) Article moved from Published>Develop

Re: other article: title is "Islamic group claims control over Somali capital". "Islamic fighters make gains in Somalia" is your suggestion for this one: sounds quite similar to me. Also, "Islamic fighters make gains in Somalia" doesn't conform to wikistyle as it is not specific enough.

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Style_guide#Headlines >>* Tell the most important and unique thing — Article titles should consist of a descriptive and enduring headline. As a series of stories on a topic develop, each headline should convey the most important and unique thing about the story at that time.

For example, "Los Angeles bank robbed" is an unenduring headline because there will likely be another bank robbery in Los Angeles at some point. Instead, find the unique angle about the story you are writing and mention that: "Thieves commit largest bank robbery in Los Angeles history", or "Trio robs Los Angeles bank, escapes on motorcycles". <<

Can you run through why "Bush's war on terror set back in Somalia" is wrong? From what I can understand you object to the phrase "War on terror" because it is POV. My position is that you were right that one should not say US's war on terror - many in US disagree with it, others don't believe it exists to disagree with. But one can say it is Bush's war on terror. That is an objective fact.

 * No its not a fact. Canada is in the war on terror, Pakistan, Afghanistan, UK, etc. Bush does NOT own the war on terror and neither does the US. WN:NPOV. Jason Safoutin 01:29, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Ealturner 01:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Why do you presume there is ONE war on terror? The title refers to Bush's war on terror.

 * No the title assumes Bush is in chage of the "war on terror." He is not. The war on terror is the war on terror and the he does not own it. Thats where the POV comes in. Jason Safoutin 01:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Ealturner 01:41, 6 June 2006 (UTC) Bush is in charge of the war on terror as the Commander-in-chief of the US Armed Forces. That's a fact. The war on terror is Bush administration policy and the buck stops with the US President. These are publically available facts.

 * Again no. Bush is NOT the owner of the war on terror. The US is not the owner.One can say Canada owns it or the UK owns it. That title is POV. There are a lot of nations participating on the war on terror. To balance NPOV, we would have to add all of them into the title. Jason Safoutin 01:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

The reason that the title is not neutral is because "war on terror" is a contested concept. Some people think that the term "war on terror" is nothing more than a tool of US propaganda, whereas others see it as a real conflict. See War_on_terror for further discussion. Because of the controversy surrounding the use of the term, it should not appear in the title or the text of this article, unless it quoted or attributed in some way. - Borofkin 01:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

NPOV
There is soo much speculation and non NPOV that I don't know where to start.
 * The growing influence of the Islamic courts is a set-back for the Bush administration's war on terror. Events on the ground may have further confused policy in a dangerous region and left the future diplomatic direction unclear.
 * Um...POV IMO.
 * Many in the US government are of the view a Somalia ruled by Sharia law might encourage terrorist attacks in places where there is no Sharia law, like the west. This would be on the apocalyptic model whereby Afghanistan, after the rise of the Taliban, sponsored al Qaeda training camps. An intelligence official said of the Islamic groups: "The Pentagon, and now the U.S. government as a whole, is convinced these are elements for establishing a religious-based government like the Taliban, that could be exploited by al Qaeda.
 * Who?
 * However; many policy veterans would fiercely disagree with the critics. Such a "U-turn" in policy demonstrates the magnitude of the Islamic threat which the Whitehouse sees growing in Somalia. The victories over the weekend might reinforce the perception.
 * Again...Who??
 * It is already known al Qaeda members responsible for the 1998 US embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, and the 2002 bombing of the Paradise Hotel in Kenya use the cover of Islamist regions to move freely into and out of Somalia.
 * They are also responsible for the September 11, 2001 attacks on NYC.
 * So far, the United States have not got a good return on diplomatic support they have given to the Anti-Terrorism Alliance.
 * Total POV.

Jason Safoutin 01:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Ealturner 01:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

If you have an issue with the article content brutalise it. :)

>> Again no. Bush is NOT the owner of the war on terror. The US is not the owner.One can say Canada owns it or the UK owns it. That title is POV. There are a lot of nations participating on the war on terror. To balance NPOV, we would have to add all of them into the title. Jason Safoutin 01:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC) <<

I'd disagree. It can be Bush's war on terror. It can be my war on terror. It can be your war on terror. There is no POV here unless you are bringing a POV to the question. The title simply Bush's war on terror. It makes no comment other than that - the rest is interpretation.
 * See comments above by Borofkin. I agree with him. But do you plan on adding your anme in the title? or mine? Interpertation? thats not NPOV...thats messing around with the facts IMO to make it so it reads a certain POV (sometimes). Jason Safoutin 01:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Ealturner 02:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC) I've made my case.

However I will leave you with my final thought. Deliberately censoring certain disliked words and phrases is sign of bias as glaring as any other. A truly objective journalist works with facts however unpalletable they are.
 * I know. But what you propose are not facts. They are POV's and speculation. Jason Safoutin 02:11, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Done with NPOV work on the "criticism" section. --vonbergm 03:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Seems ok now, to me. Redman 05:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I have removed sentences and paragraphs which I consider to be unnatributed opinion, or unecessary analysis. It is still not clear where the focus of this article lies. Is it about Islamic groups taking control of the Mogadishu, or is it about US policy in Somalia? If the former, then there is much work to do, because the article currently contains almost no information about recent events. If it is the latter, then I question whether it is really news. Remember, a Wikinews article should not provide analysis or try to draw conclusions. We should only be reporting on what others say and do. - Borofkin 06:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Good work. I think originally the article was intended to cover both aspects, but then got published and the "taking control" part got merged and this was left for the "criticism" part. Maybe this should also be merged, now that it is reasonably NPOV. --vonbergm 06:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Damn, I didn't even notice Islamic group claims control over Somali capital. In my opinion this article (the article for which this is the talk page) should be done away with entirely, either deleted or redirected. The "criticism" part has no recent event or phenomenon as its focus. - Borofkin 06:41, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Retagged as NPOV. The article continues to be particularly biased against Islamic people. The assumption that being a religious muslim who supports religious law is evil or wrong, and that no one else in Mogadishu feels the same way, is not okay in a Wikinews article. Please do not continually republish an article which has had strong disputes without having worked out compromises with most of the people involved. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 15:32, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hello Amgine, I didnt just continue to republish exactly, though I maybe agrea with your objection. I make a new try to adress your conserns. international 16:00, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Take a look and untag if satisfied. If not I wish you edit instead of taging. The reaction cant be worser than reverts and you have specified your objections perfectly. international 16:44, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I would be happy to attempt to improve this article, if I knew what the news event being covered is. There doesn't seem to be a single news event, but rather a range of them being interpreted here. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 23:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Amgine, I am not sure either where this article is going. It seems to me that it should be merged with the other Somalia article, so that the main events are covered, and the content from this article would give more background information. It seems to me that this article contains important information to explore the "how did we get there" question. --vonbergm 23:55, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Amgine,t he first paragraph contain the news event. The rest diferent statments and background info. Quite easy imo and not violating guidlines against multiple newsitems in one article. About your reason to tag it pov, is it better now? Less us/anglo anti islam pov? If so untag article or change tag to a more suitible tag if not edit yourself, which i would prefer. Then I could better understand your conserns as i think it is good enough in present form. international 00:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * vonbergm, I tried to make article focus on the strange US support of warlords that was the enemy a few yers ago. The rest is a cosequense of US chosing the losing side insted of dealing with the govement, recomended by that Michael Zorick guy. Maybe article bacom a mess after all fixing and changing of newsfocus, but I like it as it is now. international 00:16, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The title currently doesn't describe a single event or phenomenon. I've read the article, and I can't come up with a title. Perhaps if we can come up with an appropriate title then we can work on the article. - Borofkin 06:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

 * how about "US policy on Somalia under scrutiny"? in particular, covert aspects of the policy are under scrutiny, the current questions are prompted by
 * the recent success of the ICU
 * claims of covert US support of the other faction
 * Doldrums 06:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * This title sounds ok for me. international 11:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I've just realised that I accidentally didn't move it back to develop when I said I did. Please, change the title. Anything would be better than War on terror "in another fine mess" in the Horn of Africa. This title is embarrassing. As far as I can tell, nobody has uttered the words "in another fine mess". Why are they in the title in quote marks? I would change it myself, but I don't understand what the article is supposed to be about. - Borofkin 04:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * How about US funding counter-terrorism alliance in Somalia ? - Borofkin 04:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

What is the focus?
Content guide says that "News stories focus on a single current event or phenomenon." The only way to salvage this article is to find a single current event or phenomenon and make it the focus of the article. This means that the title will clearly describe that single event, and the first paragraph will clearly describe the event in more detail. Some possible examples: "Michael Zorick removed from position as Somali political affairs officer", or "US policy in Somalia criticised by Someone Important". The disputes on this talk page are not about neutrality, or attribution, they are about what the article is about. We have to agree on that first. I'm moving it back to develop. - Borofkin 06:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

172.188.106.127 07:49, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Any excess material in here could be merged with the existing article, some of the existing article draws material from this one currently.

One way to make this original would be to focus on the blow to US policy aspect rather than the news-on-the-ground events themselves.

 * I edited article to focus on US support for Alliance for the Restoration of Peace and Counter-Terrorism and that it seems to backfired. Article needs some improvement though but I think this focus is good as there is a article about the fightingstuff already international 12:18, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * And I hope I understanded this redirecting things, if I made it wrong please tell me how to do it on my talkpage. international 12:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Ealturner 13:15, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I think the change in title you made will be controversial! There's far too much stuff there. As already said there's probably 3 articles in there. We should pick one line and cut out everything else. Aim for the story to be told in 7 paragraphs. I'm not going to touch it yet because I'll probably spark a riot :)

 * Ok, take a look now. international 14:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Ealturner 15:15, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Well done for getting this one out :) Good read. I think the title will be changed later though. While I can accept "US war on terror" it could offend some in US who don't support it: they might say it's not my US's war on terror. However if you ask me most people know when you write "US war on terror" referring to the present government not the entirity of the US people. Fine with me.
 * The fact that a decent title cannot be found demonstrates the problem here. The article should be about a single current event or phenomenon, and therefore it should be possible to describe that event or phenomenon in a single short sentence, which becomes the title. The current title is embarrassing. Who said "in a fine mess"? What is the "war on terror"? What single event or phenomenon is this article about? I'm happy to jump in and help bring it up to standard, but it needs to be about something. - Borofkin 00:02, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The same question and one one suggestion above. Not sure if this will work though. --vonbergm 00:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Title: "US support old enemy in Somalia" or something similar. international 00:19, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * They've been supporting their old enemy for a while now haven't they? What is the recent event or phenomoenon? - Borofkin 01:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * That is new info for me. Is it been known for long time? Am I late informed? international 01:40, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It's new for me too. I watched "black hawk down" recently and I am shocked if the US is supporting the people who killed those US military people. Redman 22:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC)


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WiFi is not Wireless internet
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President Bush pushes for gay marriage ban

June 5, 2006

US President George W. Bush is pushing for a national ban on gay marriage, as the US Senate opened a debate on a constitutional amendment to prohibit same-sex marriage. "Changing the definition of marriage would undermine the structure of the family," said Bush, who raised the issue at the.

"The Defense of Marriage Act declares that no state is required to accept another state's definition of marriage. If that act is overturned by the courts, then marriage recognized in one city or state may have to be recognized as marriages everywhere else," said the President.

Bush criticized judges who overturned state laws. State legislatures "are being thwarted by activist judges who are overturning the expressed will of their people... Marriage is the most fundamental institution of civilization, and it should not be redefined by activist judges," he said. The "cornerstone of a healthy society" is traditional marriage, Bush declared, and the issue should be returned — "back where it belongs: in the hands of the American people."

At the White House, Bush told supporters of the amendment that he's "proud to stand" with them. His comments come as the U.S. Senate starts three days of debate on the measure. All Senate Democrats, except of Nebraska, oppose the ban.

Whilst many in the Senate do support Bush's amendments, in the final throes of an election cycle, few are prepared to support the bill. "A vote for this amendment is a vote for bigotry pure and simple," said Democratic Senator of Massachusetts, where the state Supreme Court legalized gay marriages in 2003.

"Marriage between one man and one woman does a better job protecting children better than any other institution humankind has devised," said Senate Majority Leader. "As such, marriage as an institution should be protected, not redefined."

Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, who says he believes marriage is the union of a man and a woman, said he nonetheless would vote against the amendment on a test vote Wednesday.

"The reason for this debate is to divide our society, to pit one against another," Reid said in remarks prepared for delivery on the Senate floor. "This is another one of the president's efforts to frighten, to distort, to distract, and to confuse America. It is this administration's way of avoiding the tough, real problems that American citizens are confronted with each and every day."


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White House urges patience on Iran

June 5, 2006

Bush administration officials say Iran should be given time to consider a package of incentives aimed at halting the country's nuclear enrichment and reprocessing activities.

Tehran will need some time to mull over the offer, and the first response may not be the last word, says White House spokesman Tony Snow.

"I would caution against leaping to conclusions, until the leadership in Iran has actually had an opportunity to look over the packages of incentives and disincentives offered by the EU-3 with the support of the United States," he said.

The plan was drafted by the three European nations that have been negotiating the nuclear issue with Iran - Britain, France and Germany - with the backing of the United States, Russia and China. Details of the package have not been formally released.

During a session with reporters, Snow downplayed comments made over the weekend by Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Iran's supreme leader said the flow of Iranian oil would be disrupted if the United States makes - what he called - a wrong move.

The White House spokesman predicted there would be a number of statements coming out of Iran before Tehran gives its final answer. He said, at the moment, the White House is neither optimistic nor pessimistic, but hopeful.

"It is easy to make comments into a vacuum, and my sense is that, again, the Iranians are going to realize this is a serious offer, and it is an offer that offers great promise for them," Snow said.

European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana is to formally present the package to the Iranian government in Tehran, perhaps as early as Tuesday.

Last week, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice urged Iran to give careful consideration to the plan, but indicated Tehran would not have an indefinite amount of time to respond.

Iranian officials have indicated they plan to study the document. But, they stress, have no plans to suspend uranium enrichment, which is a key condition that has been attached to the deal.

Tehran says uranium will be processed for use in power plants. But the United States and Europe say they are concerned Iran's civilian nuclear power program is really a cover for the development of nuclear weapons.

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Currently my aims at wikinews are

 * Ensure World Cup match reports exist for every game
 * Edit articles for wikinews style, NPOV, spelling, grammar.
 * Improve my news writing style

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Here are articles I have started at wikinews.

Watched

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 * Hezbollah attack Israel; Israeli forces cross over into southern Lebanon
 * Israel in Gaza Strip - Invasion?
 * When to use the word terrorism.
 * US soldier arrested for rape and four murders in Iraq

Disasters

 * Severe tropical storm Bilis devastates Fujian, Hunan and Guangdong, China

Rescued

 * Daughter of Yuko Ikeda kidnapped to ransom in Tokyo; freed 13 hours later

Politics

 * Gunmen with rocket-launchers massacre 60 at market in Mahmoudiya, Iraq

 * Arab League, Group of Eight leaders discuss crisis in the Levant

 * Sadr City suicide bomber uses fruit truck to kill 66 on market day

 * Zapatero announces peace talks with Basque separatists, ETA

 * Details emerge on how al-Zarqawi's location was pinned

 * Abu Musab al-Zarqawi killed in airstrike

 * EU_diplomat proposes deal with Iran to drop NPT Article IV.1

 * British police shoot man in anti-terrorism raid

 * Gunmen enter Palestine TV station in hail of bullets

 * Terrorists execute 19 Turkomen and two Kurds in Diyala province, Iraq

 * Sex slave auctions held at British airports

 * "Metric tonne" of date rape drug was bound for US

 * Iraq to investigate alleged massacre in Haditha

 * East Timor: President Gusmão takes emergency powers to quell unrest

Business

 * Federal Reserve chief's stagflation scare

 * Oil falls $1.19 on news of al-Zarqawi death

 * India to get $6 billion out of the Big Blue

Science

 * "Armageddon" rock misses Earth by Moon's distance

Arts and Entertainment

 * Pitt and Jolie's multi-million dollar charity baby

 * £5.8m Turner watercolour a British record

Final

 * Italy and France draw 1-1; Italy wins FIFA World Cup on penalties

Third place playoff

 * Germany beat Portugal 3-1 to take FIFA World Cup bronze

Semi-finals

 * France beat Portugal 1-0 and reach FIFA World Cup final
 * Italy score two late in Extra Time to advance to finals, hosts Germany to play in third place match

Quarter-finals

 * France beat Brazil 1-0 to take last semi-final spot
 * Portugal taken to penalties; beat England and reach historic semi-final
 * Italy brush Ukraine aside 3-0 to reach semi-final
 * Germany master penalties to beat Argentina to semi-final spot

Round of sixteen

 * France out-wit Spain 3-1 and clinch quarter-final spot
 * Brazil knock-out Ghana 3-0 to grab quarter-final place
 * Ukraine win penalty shootout; beat Switzerland for quarter-final spot
 * Italy win with last kick against Australia; into quarter-finals
 * Portugal overcome Netherlands 1-0 on way to quarter-final
 * England do enough against Ecuador; through to quarter-final
 * Argentina score in extra-time; beat Mexico, get to quarter-finals
 * Germany book quarter-final spot with 2-0 win over Sweden

Third round of matches

 * France qualify with 2-0 win over Togo in Group G
 * Switzerland shut door on Korean Republic 2-0 in Group G
 * Spain edge out Saudi Arabia 1-0 in Group H
 * Ukraine advance after win against Tunisia in Group H
 * Australia draws with Croatia 2-2, advances to next round in Group F
 * Brazil defeat Japan 4-1 in Group F
 * Italy sink Czech Republic 2-0 in Group E
 * Ghana beat United States of America 2-1 in Group E
 * Ivory Coast beats Serbia and Montenegro 3-2 in Group C
 * Argentina and Netherlands play 0-0 stalemate in Group C
 * Angola draw 1-1 with Iran in Group D
 * Mexico lose 1-2 to Portugal but still qualify in Group D
 * Paraguay beat Trinidad and Tobago 2-0 in Group B
 * Sweden score late against England for 2-2 draw in Group B
 * Poland win 2-1 against Costa Rica in Group A
 * Germany too hot for Ecuador in Group A

Second round of matches

 * Spain passes Tunisia test to win 3-1 in Group H
 * Ukraine beats Saudi Arabia 4-0 in Group H
 * Switzerland too much for Togo in Group G
 * France held to 1-1 draw with Korea Republic in Group G
 * Brazil beat Australia with two second half goals in Group F
 * Croatia and Japan share point in Group F
 * United States of America draw 1-1 with Italy in Group E
 * Ghana surge past Czech Republic in Group E
 * Portugal beat Iran 2-0 in Group D
 * Angola hold Mexico to 0-0 draw in Group D
 * Netherlands defeat Ivory Coast in Group C
 * Argentina thrash Serbia and Montenegro in Group C !
 * Sweden stuns Paraguay two minutes from time in Group B
 * England beat Trinidad and Tobago 2-0 in Group B
 * Ecuador make short work of Costa Rica in Group A
 * Germany beat Poland and top Group A

First round of matches

 * Saudi Arabia and Tunisia share dramatic draw in Group H
 * Spain beat Ukraine 4-0 in Group H
 * Brazil trot to 1-0 win over Croatia in Group F
 * France draw with Switzerland in Group G
 * Korea Republic win 2-1 against Togo in Group G
 * Italy shut out Ghana for 2-0 win in Group E
 * Czech Republic coast to 3-0 win over USA in Group E !
 * Australian late scores down Japan 3-1 in Group F
 * Portugal win against World Cup first timers in Group D
 * Mexico fire three against Iran in Group D
 * Netherlands ease to 1-0 win in Group C
 * Argentina start with 2-1 win in Group C
 * Trinidad and Tobago hold Sweden in second Group B match
 * England wins first match with 1-0 victory in Group B
 * Ecuador beats Poland, 2-0 in Group A
 * Germany wins, 4-2 over Costa Rica in first World Cup match

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Talk:Tornadoes cause millions in damages in Waco, Texas

guestions about the damage to my apartment in hewlitt on may 5, 2006 my apartment was damaged and the complex was not able to give me another apartment right then, but now i have found another place the complex says i am still lieble for the lease, they did not offer me another apartment for more than a month how can i still be leible would some one help me with this.


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User talk:200.196.104.115

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User talk:68.122.72.56

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£5.8m Turner watercolour a British record

June 6, 2006

In Britain one of the most important watercolours to be put up for sale in half a century has been snapped up for £5.8 million at Christie's (actual selling price: £5,832,000 including excess).

In "The Blue Rigi: Lake of Lucerne, Sunrise" the telephone bidder bought a softly glowing yellow sunrise in which JMW Turner trapped a moment of cause and effect - gun, dog and the flight of ducks.

"In a technique of almost unimaginable subtlety Turner expresses his lifelong preoccupation with the effects of light, shade and atmosphere," said Noel Annesley, honorary chairman of Christie's, who personally took the gavel for the auction.

The painting has two sister paintings also from Switzerland: The Red Rigi and The Dark Rigi. "Turner had never made any drawings like this before and never made any like them again," said John Ruskin, the 19th century art critic, when he saw the works.

In 1842 the painting was bought by its first owner Elhanan Bicknell for 80 guineas and was in the property of its latest owners since 1942. The auction house has said they plan to keep the identity of the newest buyer, who paid slightly more than 80 guineas, secret.

In 2000 Rosetti's Pandora was the last most expensive watercolour ever sold in Britain - it went for £2.6m, less than half the price of The Blue Rigi.


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Maybe another less pov source should be added? Redman 00:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

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Icelandic PM Ásgrímsson resigns

June 13, 2006

The Icelandic Prime Minister, Halldór Ásgrímsson, announced his resignation on June 5 after the governing Progress Party suffered losses in recent local elections.

Ásgrímsson's successor will be Minister of Foreign Affairs Geir Haarde. Haarde is leader of Ásgrímsson's coalition partner, the conservative Independence Party.

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Talk:Gunmen enter Palestine TV station in hail of bullets

Ealturner 01:42, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

What are the specific objections to this article?

NPOV
This article includes elements which are particularly biased in opposition to the duly-elected Hamas party and government of Palestine. This sentence is particularly exemplary:
 * Hamas, the armed, radical Islamic party, came to power at the January 2006 elections on a platform to destroy Israel.

I would encourage the author to consider the Hamas article on Wikipedia. The Hamas political party is one of many Palestinian parties which is Islamic, but by no means is it radical; in fact it is the majority party in Palestine which indicates it is, in that environment, particularly unradical. It is not a military organization, it is a social and political organization. Its published platform in the 2006 elections very specificly did not discuss Israel, unlike all other parties in the contest. It did not call for the destruction of Israel, and neither of the sources cited claim it did. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 02:02, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Ealturner 02:30, 6 June 2006 (UTC) "Israel will exist until Islam will obliterate it" The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) 18 August 1988
 * To me it looks like Amgines objections are adressed. I publish it. Amgine or anywikinewsie, please revert if unsatisfied. international 10:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Cite http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm

It's fact. Hamas has not renounced this, hence big controversy.

I sometimes wonder whether Neutral point of view is not about stating facts but about "giving the opposite to the popular view for a change." I'm sorry: when the popular view is fact, that view is objective!

However I'm not saying the article couldn't be re-phrased in places

"Hamas, the armed, radical Islamic party, came to power at the January 2006 elections on a platform to destroy Israel."

This very direct language. The blow could be softened but omitting basic facts would be biased. It is essentially correct and if you were to listen to some of the stuff these people say in their speeches I think you'd agree.

Ealturner 08:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

>>Hamas, an Islamic party, came to power at the January 2006 elections.<<

I have no objections to this phrase as it is clear from the fact they have ignored attempts to reconcil with Israel where they stand on that matter.

Is there any thing else that you would like worked on in this article?

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"enter in hail of bullets' sounds awkward to me, how about "Gunmen storm TV station in Palestine" Doldrums 11:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


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User talk:Wgpatels

Hi Wgpatels, thanks for your contributions! I'm not sure that they are appropriate for Wikinews, however. Please take a look at What Wikinews is not, specifically "Wikinews articles are not editorials. Articles should restrict themselves to reporting news and not commenting on the news or newsmakers." You should probably also take a look at the content guide. - Borofkin 02:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

My apologies
I thought it was just because you thought I wasn't the author of the editorials. Well, then, everything is clear. Do you have a space for editorials?

Werner Patels
 * No problems Werner. Unforutnately we don't have a place for editorials. All Wikinews articles must conform to the neutral point of view, which means means no opinion or editorial at all. You are most welcome to continue contributing, however, as you appear to have a talent for writing. You should probably take a look at Writing an article to get an overview of Wikinews policies. - Borofkin 02:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I've moved your article to the user space, User:Wgpatels/Homegrown Terror. Feel free to keep it here if you would like, but the main namespace may not host editorial or opinion pieces. Thanks for your writing! -  Amgine | talk en.WN 02:18, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Likewise, I've moved User:Wgpatels/Cheap Labor to the user space. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 02:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

 * And User:Wgpatels/Smoke Signals? -  Amgine | talk en.WN 02:32, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

that's fine
Geez, finding one's way through this thing is harder than I had thought ..
 * It's worth it. One day Wikinews will eclipse all other news sources in profile, respectability, and volume of content produced. Not to mention modesty of it's contributors. - Borofkin 02:41, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:80.243.122.238

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Pittsburgh Pirates defeat Colorado Rockies, 5-2

June 6, 2006

In Monday night Major League Baseball action, the Pittsburgh Pirates won a victory over the Colorado Rockies in Denver, 5-2. The Pirates up 3-1 by the 6th inning and strong pitching throughout helped hold off the Rockies.

Ian Snell pitched 6 1/3 innings for the Pirates, and recorded a career and season high 10 strikeouts, giving up only 2 runs, 6 hits, and a single walk. In the first three innings, Snell threw 29 of 35 pitches for strikes. The win was his 6th of the season. Snell's previous career high in strikeouts was nine, set May 3 against the New York Mets.

Coming off a 7-3 homestand, the Pirates hoped to turn around their dismal 4-22 road record, and break a 4-game road losing streak. A strong appearance in their first game of the 3-game series will ease many doubts.


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Sedition trial underway in Auckland, New Zealand

June 6, 2006 The trial of Timothy Selwyn, 31, for publishing seditious statements has begun in Auckland.

The charge of publishing seditious statements refers to leaflets found in Ponsonby Road, 2 km from the Prime Minister's office in Sandringham Road, Auckland, after an axe attack on the window of the Prime Minister's electorate office, during the foreshore and seabed legislation debate.

Sedition is defined within New Zealand as being "speech, writing or behaviour intended to encourage rebellion or resistance against the government". Selwyn has been charged under section 81(1)(c) of the New Zealand Crimes Act 1961, which forbids any such publication which means "[t]o incite, procure, or encourage violence, lawlessness, or disorder". The New Zealand Police cite the pamphlet as being seditious.

This is the first prosecution for sedition in New Zealand for at least 75 years.

The decision to charge Selwyn has drawn considerable controversy within New Zealand, with many bloggers protesting. Blogger Idiot/Savant, who has extensively researched the history of sedition in New Zealand, called the law "an archaic holdover from feudalism, which should have been relegated to the dustbin of history long ago." Blogger Lewis Holden, stated "Allowing the state to prosecute an individual for publishing an idea is morally abhorrent and wrong. The state should not have such a power at its disposal: to do so invites abuse of our right to freedom of speech."

At the time of the attack, Prime Minister Helen Clark said "This is violent criminal behaviour and there is no place for it in a democracy...".

The Crown says to find him guilty the jury must decide if the pamphlets encouraged other New Zealanders to break the law through similar crimes, and whether Selwyn knew that is what the material set out to do.


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Wellington, New Zealand inner city speed limit has decreased

June 6, 2006

Wellington City has dropped the speed limit of some of its streets to 30 km/h from June 6. The speed limit was changed after a student was killed in a bus lane, Willis Street.

Wellington Coroner Garry Evans suggested the changes.

Lambton Quay, central Wellington, is one of the routes affected.

"104 crashes have been reported in the past five years in the Lambton Quay area - a third of which involved pedestrians. The council hopes to reduce the number and severity of accidents. The lower speed is more appropriate for the area and better reflects the speed many drivers already travel at," says Deputy Mayor Alick Shaw.

The mother of the student killed, Brenda Bongiovanni, said that she is relieved to hear the changes.

The new speed limit will apply from Lower Willis St to the Lambton interchange & bus terminal adjacent to the Central Railway Station, and Mercer St and Bunny St, the distance is 1.3 km.


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Talk:Sedition trial underway in Auckland, New Zealand

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Crime Act comes from http://www.legislation.co.nz Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 10:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Ealturner 10:30, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

According to wikistyle polices which you can read here

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there should be a sources section for this article in the article. Please correct this and add the appropriate sources. Sources aren't optional. If the sources section isn't included the article cannot be published.

See: Original reporting Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 10:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Ealturner 11:30, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I expected there to be a sources section confirming the basic facts and history of the case. I'd still question that - how do we know the original journalism isn't a concoction if these sources aren't there?

News agencies are businesses have reputations and profit lines - readers can be pretty sure they don't just make stuff up because a hack who did that would get sacked. I'm not suggesting this article is made up but on general principle ought not wikipedia original journalism provide some kind of cross-source before the articles are published?

Apologies if this is ground covered elsewhere - I'll take a link.

In this article the quotes appear all to have been sourced.

I've added sources for the article, including a link to Selwyn's own thoughts on the case (which are less than neutral, but its useful to see them) - Idiot/Savant (no Wikinews account yet).


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India to get $6 billion out of the Big Blue

June 6, 2006

IBM will expand its service, software, hardware and research divisions in India its chairman and chief executive officer has said. The plan would give the subcontinent $6 billion worth of investment over three years.

Announcing the news in Bangalore to an audience of 10,000 employees, the package presented is three times as large as that invested by IBM over the previous three years, said Samuel J. Palmisano. "We see India's role as central to our global enterprise," he said.

The $6 billion investment by IBM, also known by the nickname "Big Blue," is larger than the $3.9 billion total foreign investment promised to India by Microsoft Corp., Intel Corp. and Cisco Systems Inc.

IBM is currently the largest multinational in India employing 43,000 people in 14 Indian cities. 15,000 new jobs were added last year as the company took 10,000 out of Europe. The new foreign investment is expected to create more jobs in India's thriving telecommunications industry.

Estimates put IBM's sales revenue in India at $1 billion. While the home market valuation of $15 billion is a figure expected to grow 25 per cent a year. In the first quarter of this year IBM's Indian wing grew 61 per cent compared to the year before.

"IBM is excited by the opportunities in India over the long term and we are also encouraged by the domestic opportunity that India offers," said Palmisano.

Addressing specifically IBM's plans in India the head said he wanted to automate IT services, create a "one-stop shop" for hardware information and IT goods, build a new R&D centre in Delhi and forge links between IBM's consultants, developers, engineers and scientists.

"IBM is not going to miss this opportunity," said Palmisano.


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Pitt and Jolie's multi-million dollar charity baby

June 6, 2006

Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie are to let Getty Images sell photos of their new baby Shiloh Nouvel Jolie-Pitt - and have asked the proceeds go to charity.

"While we celebrate the joy of the birth of our daughter, we recognize that 2 million babies born every year in the developing world die on the first day of their lives. These children can be saved, but only if governments around the world make it a priority," the couple said, in a joint statement.

It is thought the rights to the photographs will be bought for upwards $5 million and that the money will go to a charity for African children.

Getty images will arrange a private photo shoot for the baby. "We are honored that the Jolie-Pitt family has recognized our long-term commitment to these critical issues, as well as our ability to use the power of imagery to make a difference in the lives of many," said Jonathan Klein, Getty's CEO and cofounder.

Born in a hospital in Namibia on May 27 paparazzi were immediately interested in a snapshot of the Hollywood stars' child who weighed in at 7lbs.

The baby's mother Angelina Jolie, 30, an Oscar winning actress, is a goodwill ambassador for U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees. She has two adopted children Maddox, 4, and Zahara, aged 15 months.


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"Big Blue" not "the Big Blue", It's just bad, even if you were trying to make a play on words, like "out of the blue".

 * commas are standard large number separator in some places, but not all. See WN:SG for note about using the local convention. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 23:00, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

 * According to Wikipedia's Decimal separator article, India appears to use commas so it would appear to be consistent to change the apostrophes to commas. R2b2 23:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


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Signs about colleague missed in missing persons case: Detective

June 6, 2006

Former New South Wales detective and deputy mayor of Bathurst in the state's central west told a Police Integrity Commission in the nearby city of Orange information he provided about his location on the morning a woman went missing was incorrect.

Janine Vaughan went missing at around 4 a.m. on December 7, 2001. She had left a local pub and was last seen getting into a red car. Mr Hosemans became a person of interest after Ms Vaughan's mother, Jennifer said that the only man she had heard her daughter speak about was "a guy who she had seen in Bathurst and who she described as drop-dead gorgous".

Jennifer Vaughan later found out that the man was high-profile detective and deputy mayor Brad Hosemans. Ms Vaughan's best friend said that Mr Hosemans had walked past the clothing shop that Ms Vaughan had worked in and smiled and winked at her.

At the inquiry on Monday Mr Hosemans said he was in Bathurst on the morning of December 7, 2001. In 2002 he had told the police he was at his mother's house near Newcastle at the time Janine Vaughan disappeared.

Mr Hosemans told the commission he had found an EFTPOS fuel receipt that showed he might have returned from his mother's a day earlier than he initially believed. His initial statement to police was based upon a bank statement which must have been subject to "processing delays," he said.

The officer who initially handled the case, despite being on charges of indecent assault following an incident at the Bathurst Golf Club was Mr Hosemans. He was later acquitted of the Golf Club incident but police told the inquiry it was unusual for an officer who was facing such charges to be heading a missing persons case.

Ms Vaughan's case was later handled by one of NSW's highest-ranking detectives, Detective Inspector Paul Jacob. Inspector Jacob, on Monday was asked by Mark Buscombe, counsel assisting the inquiry if he had considered Mr Hosemans a suspect at the time. "Had it hit my radar, I may have taken a different course," inspector Jacob replied.

Inspector Jacob only wrote to Mr Hosemans a year after Ms Vaughan disappeared, after claims that Mr Hosemans had a relationship with her. Facing the inquiry for a second day today, Inspector Jacob said errors had been made in the handling of Ms Vaughan's case. He told the inquiry that, after a review of evidence before him, Mr Hosemans was struck off the suspect list.

The inspector was then asked about notes he made which said, "Flowers and chocolates in weeks leading up to disappearance. Brad seen. Statement-takers left out issue with Brad." Inspector Jacob said the note should have raised suspicion but he was overworked and subsequently overlooked it.

The inquiry heard Ms Vaughan had rejected Mr Hosemans prior to her disappearance. "Ms Vaughan told (a friend) that he (Mr Hosemans) was ringing her up at night, walking past the store, asking her out, but she said no," Mr Buscombe said.


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EU diplomat proposes deal with Iran to drop NPT Article IV.1

June 6, 2006

The European Union's head diplomat Javier Solana has offered Iran a number of benefits to persuade the oil-rich state to drop some of its rights under Article IV.1 of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, i.e. stop an uranium enrichment program.

During the two hour meeting in the Iranian capital Solana is thought to have offered help to build Iran's nuclear generators and supply fuel for the northern Persian Gulf state's energy needs.

This main offer may have been accompanied by a number of sweeteners such as the offer of European Airbus airplanes and United States relaxation of the trade of Boeing aircraft parts with Iran. The proposal the European emissary carried had previously been seen by Security Council powers United States, China, Britain, Russia, France and also Germany. Were Iran to reject the Solana offer the United Nations Security Council sanctions could be used to stop Iran's nuclear program.

"Larijani said Iran will study the package, clause by clause, and respond," said an unnamed official who knows Ali Larjani, Iran's chief nuclear negotiator.

However there were also some "ambiguities" to resolve, said Larjani himself.

Iran has noted several times that as party to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), the country can enrich uranium for peaceful needs, such as for the production of electricity.

But a move to enrich uranium on a larger-scale, such as a plan for 3,000 centrifuges by the end of 2006, might lead American officials to say Iran could have the potential to get a nuclear weapon within ten years.

While Iran's head of state, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei recently warned about the disruption of oil supplies if Iran was attacked, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is said to be considering the newest package on the table.

'We have two options - one is cooperation, the other is confrontation,' said the Iranian Foreign Minister Manuchehr Mottaki.


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EPA block massive West Australian energy project

June 7, 2006 The Western Australian (WA) Environmental Protection Authority (EPA) has advised against the massive Greater Gorgon liquefied natural gas project off WA's Pilbara coast. Proponents of the projects say Gorgon is one of Australia's biggest export ventures, scheduled to provide up to 6,000 jobs and exports of up to $1.2 billion.

EPA chairman Dr Wally Cox said the Gorgon project operators (Chevron, ExxonMobil, and Shell), had made an effort on flora and fauna issues but in its present state, the Gorgon proposal was "unacceptable." Gorgon LNG general manager Colin Beckett said that Gorgon was a world-class gas field and that the joint venture partners were confident that the decision would be reversed.

Environment Minister Mark McGowan said there was a definite process to be followed. The Minister says he will make a final decision on the Gorgon proposal after considering the EPA report - and any subsequent report from the Appeals Convenor. The EPA recommendations on the Gorgon proposal are subject to a two-week appeals period.

The EPA's Dr Cox said that joint venture had "not been able to demonstrate that impacts from dredging, the introduction of non-indigenous species and the potential loss of fauna could be reduced to acceptable levels."

In September 2003 the WA government provided "in-principle agreement" to the Gorgon joint venturers subject to a number of conditions. Dr Cox said that the Environmental Review and Management Programme had further highlighted the terrestrial and marine conservation values of Barrow Island and the adjacent waters.

"Flatback turtles in particular would be put at risk from the proposal with two of the most important nesting beaches located adjacent to the proposed LNG processing plant site and the materials off-loading facility," Dr Cox said. "There is very little science available on the life-cycle, behaviour and feeding habits of Flatback turtles and as a consequence it is not possible at this time to identify management measures that would ensure ongoing survival of this Pilbara Flatback turtle population."

Dr Cox also said that the Proponent had not been able to demonstrate that risk could be reduced to satisfactory levels in the areas of: Impacts on the marine ecosystem from dredging; The introduction of non-indigenous species; Potential loss of subterranean and short range endemic invertebrate fauna species. "As a result, the proposal in its present form cannot meet the EPA's environmental objectives and is considered environmentally unacceptable," Dr Cox said.

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Despite the EPA's decision to block the proposal, the Australian newspaper reports that WA Premier Alan Carpenter was prepared to overrule the EPA's advice: "While he stopped short of providing a guarantee the project would go ahead, Mr Carpenter said it involved "massive economic and social benefit" for the state."

The Australian Petroleum Production and Exploration Association (APPEA), has welcomed the bi-partisan support by the Premier, and the Leader of the Opposition, Paul Omodei, to the Gorgon project. APPEA's Chief Executive, Belinda Robinson, said. "It also involves the world's first commercial carbon sequestration project. It's hard to imagine what more could be done," Ms Robinson said.

"The Gorgon project is a world class gas resource of more than 40 trillion cubic feet, and its development has the potential to deliver 6,000 jobs, $2.5 billion in annual export income, and more than $17 billion in government taxes and royalties over its 60 year life," Ms Robinson said.

The Gorgon project proposal involves a two-train, 10 million metric-ton-per-year liquefied natural gas (LNG) plant and a domestic gas plant on Barrow Island, located off Australia's northwest coast. Home to Australia's largest operating onshore oil field for the past 40 years, the island is also a Class A nature reserve.

However, the Greens applauded the WA EPA's advice. Greens Senator Rachel Siewert said in a media release: "This is the second time the WA EPA has knocked back this proposal. The proponents should review their options to put the project on the mainland, which will ultimately be a win for the regional economy and a win for the unique environment of Barrow Island."

"This is a proposal that should always have been located on the mainland. Proposing to build something on this scale inside Australia's most precious island nature reserve was deeply flawed from the beginning," said Senator Siewert. "The island has been dubbed 'Australia's Ark' for its unique cargo of endangered species, many of them now extinct or endangered on mainland Australia. He must take strong action to look after the island."


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hi, i noticed ur edits to the pirate bay article. as the wikinews introduction above points out, we do not continue to update articles, once they are published, please create a new article for tracking newer developments to an ongoing story. thanks. Doldrums 15:11, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

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Tubes, Grateful Dead musician Vince Welnick died of 'probable suicide'

June 6, 2006

Former Tubes and Grateful Dead keyboardist/vocalist Vince Welnick is dead of a "probable suicide", according to the Sonoma County Sheriff/Coroner.

Welnick was found dead in his home in Forestville, California, on June 2, 2006. His cause of death is not being released at the family's request, says Coroner's Sgt. Will Wallman.

The 55-year-old musician began his professional career in his native Phoenix, Arizona, putting together a garage band called The Beans. The group moved to San Francisco in 1969 and changed its name to The Tubes, eventually releasing eight albums. Welnick was picked in 1990 to succeed the late Brent Mydland as The Grateful Dead keyboardist, and eventually moved on to solo projects. He was later elected to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Welnick is survived by his wife, Lori.


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Talk:EU diplomat proposes deal with Iran to drop NPT Article IV.1

uh, isnt this title dangerously close to call Iran a donkey and can be missunderstod? international 16:55, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

i agree. See also operant conditioning. This "carrots and sticks" language is treating the Iranian nation-state as a salivating dog - not as a government representing cognitive people with a culture, moral system, ethics etc.

How about "EU diplomat proposes deal with Iran to drop NPT Article IV.1" ?

After all, the whole point (western powers/mainstream media) is to get "the donkey/the salivating dog" to agree to drop its rights under Article IV of the NPT without risking any pressure for EU-3+US to implement Article VI of the NPT.

Boud 20:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

IV -> IV.1 Boud 22:31, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Ealturner 23:52, 7 June 2006 (UTC) This new one hardly trips off the tongue! I accept the criticism using "carrot and stick" terminology could presuppose Iran is in the wrong. Therefore headline needs changing. Thanks for picking this up.

If it's possible to have a catchier title though that would be better for style reasons.

don't understand bias claim
19:46, 8 June 2006 Ealturner (removed bias - comparisons to india, pakistan, israel irrelevant and not appropriate)

i don't understand why you claim that this context information is irrelevant and not appropriate. The whole point of the conflict is whether or not uranium enrichment can be realistically confined to peaceful purposes without going into nuclear weapons. The international law regarding this question is the NPT. The countries closest to Iran who have not signed the NPT and who have about a hundred or so nuclear weapons each are india, pakistan and israel.

And the fact that a state which is not party to the NPT is nevertheless a member of the IAEA which is inspecting Iran, is clearly relevant. There is a conflict of interest there.

So i don't understand your claim of irrelevance and for the moment am restoring it. Boud 20:11, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

 * It's relevant. But it's not relevant to THIS article. This article is about EU's offer to Iran to stop a program they say is for peaceful purpose. What are you mentioning other state's nuclearity when even Iran says their program is for peaceful purpose? You're biased not once but twice! ;) Removing info... Ealturner 02:41, 15 June 2006 (UTC)