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User talk:Gopher65

Being bothered by User:Pi zero
He is bothering me with rubbish each edit. He is never contributing. He deletes articles comments sites here, although the article is existing. Articles under development are clean up articles. I might not write about RB Leipzig. My started articles have interest and he says that other archived articles are which from amateur clubs, university clubs or something else. He wants to rename my name here and is not rename me. My articles are written after the style such as about other proven football match reports. He is psychic unable to name reasons. Please remove him from the board! He neither productive nor socially competent or educated, for a globally representative on public free sites. --Nikebrand (talk) 21:45, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Digg.com suffers user revolt
Hi, and thanks for the [//en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Digg.com_suffers_user_revolt&diff=2796278&oldid=441753 change] you made to that article. However, i feel that you inadvertently also switched the protocol part of the link, from HTTP to HTTPS. Is it possible you could change it back, or should i add another  to the talk page first? -- Jokes Free4Me (talk) 11:02, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Changed to protocol-relative. --Pi zero (talk) 12:26, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks Pi zero:)! — Gopher65talk 01:01, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom election 2015
Would you be willing to stand for ArbCom again this year? If you don't wish to nominate yourself, I would be happy to nominate you. --Pi zero (talk) 17:04, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late response. If you need a nominee, I'll accept. I saw the election notice, but I didn't want to self-nom because I'm not active enough right now to truly qualify, but if arb-com is actually needed I can schedule in the time to deal with a situation, if I was elected. I honestly don't generally come on more than once a week normally though, barring a big event. Busssssssy time for me. — Gopher65talk 00:06, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Pi zero (talk) 00:23, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Congratulations on your election. Hawkeye7 (talk) 08:56, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Seems a wee bit overdue!!
Sweet heavens! How did this get missed?! --Bddpaux (talk)
 * Thanks;) — Gopher65talk 19:12, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom election 2016
Hi. As a current Arb, are you willing to stand again this year? I'd be happy to nominate you, or of course you could nominate yourself. --Pi zero (talk) 01:27, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure, nominate away:)! — Gopher65talk 15:40, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Need help on Wikinews Main Page
Hello. I started a request at Talk:Main Page on removing interlanguage links, i.e. moving links to Wikidata, and then de-collapsing navigational sections at the bottom of the Main Page. Can you please check? --George Ho (talk) 18:19, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

ArbCom election 2017
As a current Arb, would you be willing to stand for Arbcom again this year? If you don't wish to nominate yourself, I would be happy to nominate you. --Pi zero (talk) 18:13, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I know this is late, but for the future you can always nom me if you need more nominees. Arbcom is rarely needed on Wikinews, and while I'm not particularly active anymore, I do check Wikipedia and Wikinews every few days. I was apparently logged out for the past two weeks and didn't notice, which is why I didn't see this message until now, but normally I'll respond within a reasonable amount of time. — Gopher65talk 16:39, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * At the very last moment, I flinched at the prospect of a runoff election between, what, five out of seven nominees for four slots?, and withdrew one of my votes just before the end of the voting period. We had, tbh, seven excellent nominees, and faced with withdrawing one vote somewhere I withdrew the last one nominated, which was you.  I felt bad about it (which, on reflection, I would have felt no matter which I'd chosen; but, I admit I was relieved we didn't need a runoff).  --Pi zero (talk) 20:09, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Reviews
Some rocky moments getting back into the swing of review, I see. At some point we decided it would be best to avoid writing specific death/injury numbers for a disaster into its headline. Ah, well.

Much appreciated; I've been struggling to catch up with the review queue, lately. --Pi zero (talk) 20:13, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok. I'll keep that in mind. I also flaked out and added a source, which, in retrospect, a reviewer shouldn't do, as Acagastya pointed out. And I didn't notice that the city and region had been mixed up in a sentence. I'll do better next time;). — Gopher65talk 20:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

ArbCom election 2018
Are you available to stand for the committee this year? I see you said last year you'd be willing to stand if needed; does that still hold? --Pi zero (talk) 20:19, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Yup, that still holds. I'm only minimally active for a good chuck of each year right now, but I read my emails and see alerts, so I can be gotten ahold of when needed:). — Gopher65talk 01:15, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Gryllida (talk) 20:18, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem;). — Gopher65talk 01:05, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Growing Wikinews to counter the Balkanization of the body politic
Hello:

I'm asking all the Wikinews administrators for their thoughts on how Wikinews and the Wikimedia Foundation more generally might respond more effectively to the challenges to democracy and world peace that many people perceive in the rise of the xenophobic right in the US, Europe, India, the Philippines, and elsewhere. I've proposed a workshop on this subject for WikiConference North America, October 18-21, and I've engaged User:Pi zero and User:Gryllida in discussing this at Water cooler/proposals. Pi zero and Gryllida think the numbers I scraped from Wikinews are wrong, because they paint a dark picture of Wikinews.

I think there is a great need and opportunity to grow Wikinews, whether or not the reality matches my interpretation of the numbers from Wikinews.

I hope you will contribute your thoughts to this discussion -- both online and hopefully also at WikiConference North America.

Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 01:34, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

making news writing easier
I think you remarked earlier that news writing should be made easier for people at one of the water coolers. Could you please check the links at my user page under the section 'experiment 1' and share your thoughts. Maybe there is room for improving one of these approaches. --Gryllidamsg/chat 21:28, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Please review
Hi Gopher65

Please review:

Current review queue as of 22:51, 18 April 2019 (UTC):

 * 18 April 2019: Donation drive raises over US$1 million to rebuild Louisiana churches after Notre Dame de Paris also catches fire
 * 17 April 2019: Sudanese protesters protect defense ministry sit-in
 * 17 April 2019: Officials find fire alarm sounded 23 minutes before the fire was reported in Notre Dame, Paris
 * 7 April 2019: Students compete in world's second Neurosurgery Olympiad in Tyumen, Russia

For inspiration here are Easter Orange apples, and Kumis (fermented milk):

Happy holidays!!!

--Gryllida (talk) 22:51, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

ArbCom election 2019
As a current Arb, would you be willing to stand for Arbcom again this year? If you don't wish to nominate yourself, I would be happy to nominate you. --Pi zero (talk) 02:50, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, why not. I can't believe it's been a year already! — Gopher65talk 00:15, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Cool. I've nominated you. --Pi zero (talk) 01:06, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I flinched again. --Pi zero (talk) 19:55, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hah, that's ok. I'm ok being on ArbCom or not:). — Gopher65talk 02:07, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

You.....
...still around??--Bddpaux (talk) 17:06, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yup, but not terribly active. — Gopher65talk 23:29, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

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Reviewer
Hello. Your account has the reviewer permission but you do not appear to have reviewed any article in over four years. The permission expiry policy requires no more than two years pass between each review you carry out. I’m inviting you to carry out a review of an article on the next seven days. Otherwise the permission will be removed from your account. [24Cr][talk] 00:39, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Temporary change to article length
Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from February 1 to April 30 to encourage more articles to be published per the outcome of a current proposal. The minimum requirements for article length will be one paragraph of at least a hundred words. At the end of the trial the requirements will return to normal (3 paragraphs etc) and there will be an evaluation discussion about the trial. Happy reviewing! [24Cr][talk] 23:15, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Temporary change to freshness
Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from July 4 to October 4 to enable more articles to be reviewed per the outcome of a current proposal. The freshness window is being extended to about five to seven days. At the end of the trial the window will continue to be at 5-7 days while we discuss whether to adopt the change permanently or not. Happy reviewing! [24Cr][talk] 17:37, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Your recent (in)activity
Hello. From what I noticed, your last edit and your last activity log occurred in July 2021, nearly two years ago. Per WN:PEP, those inactive for at least two years will lose their user permission rights, like "administrator" rights. I've not yet requested de-adminship. Actutally, this is just a notice. I may have to re-notify you soon before my request. George Ho (talk) 18:36, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi George. That's fine, you can de-admin me. I keep thinking I'll have time to come back on and be active again, but I'm busier all the time. I do not currently foresee a time when I'll be able to contribute significantly again. If such a time arises, I can always reapply for permissions at that time, should I feel the need:). — Gopher65talk 01:48, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not a bureaucrat, honestly. Speaking of bureaucrats... Would you do the honors and do as this admin wishes. Thanks. George Ho (talk) 19:18, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * George, I appreciate your many years of enforcing PEP. It takes dedication to track this as closely as you do. That said, I question the value of enforcing PEP. Wikinews needs more, not fewer, contributors with permissions. PEP was about a perceived danger of inactive admin accounts getting hijacked or otherwise compromised. As far as I know, this has never actually happened. Perhaps the time has come to re-evaluate PEP, rather than enforcing it. Cheers, SVTCobra 19:50, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the sentiment, but how do we trust this admin to be re-active and use this account frequently? Furthermore, this isn't about PEP generally but about this person specifically. Must we use your concerns about PEP in order to prevent this person's admin tools from being taken away? George Ho (talk) 06:50, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * We obviously can't know if an admin will return to activity. But why is it important for an account to be used frequently? For your second question, certainly no! My opinions are just mine. It should be a community decision. It is unclear to me, however, why you say it is not about PEP, but about Gopher65 specifically. Cheers, SVTCobra 07:14, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * All this dialog notwithstanding, this person is OK with being de-admin'd, so I intend to take action accordingly.--Bddpaux (talk) 14:22, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * This person is still an admin. What happened to taking action? George Ho (talk) 07:35, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Your reviewer rights revisited
Hey again. As I still see, since your previous notice last year, you still haven't reviewed at least one article within the timeframe. Per WN:PEP, I may have no choice but to request that your reviewer tools be taken away. Of course, you could've used the Easy Peer Review tool, which isn't recorded in review log. However, your remaining tools will still be taken away if you haven't used the gadget for at least two years. George Ho (talk) 22:29, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello again. This is your second notice about your reviewer tools. As I see, since the last notice, I've not yet seen your review log lately. As I'm sad to say this, I may likely soon start a request at WN:FR/RFP to have your tools taken away, despite the Easy Peer Review tool. --George Ho (talk) 07:25, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

I have just now requested removal of your reviewer tools. I invite you for your input there: Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Removal/Gopher65. --George Ho (talk) 21:17, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

social media (cross-posted to all members of reviewer group)
Hi, Water_cooler/miscellaneous may be of interest to you as a reviewer, thanks and regards, Gryllida (talk) 05:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Requesting a review
Hi @Gopher65, I can see you're still a reviewer. I know it's been a while, but I was wondering if you could review my first Wikinews article here: World Athletics Indoor Championships concludes in Glasgow with new world records and significant wins. It seems like Wikinews has been inactive lately, and I fear that the article will go stale and get deleted if it's not reviewed in the next week.

Thank you, --Habst (talk) 16:52, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Removal/Gopher65
'''Note! Your Wikinews permission(s) have been removed.'''
 * Under the permission expiry policy (enacted October 13, 2012) the permissions held by your account have been reduced due to inactivity, or lack of use.

 * Section 4 of the policy provides for fast-tracking reacquisition of permissions. We all understand that real-life commitments can severely curtail the level of commitment you can give to Wikinews; the permission reduction is not intended as a reflection on your past work, or to imply you are unwelcome. The aim in curtailing permissions is to address, and concern that a long period of inactivity means you may not be up-to-date with current policy and practices.

I hope you do return soon. [24Cr][talk] 00:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

 * Same we could use oldies but goodies still around here! BigKrow (talk) 00:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

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User talk:ShakataGaNai/Archives/2009/July

Twitter
Any chance you can set the Twitter to not send the tweet again if the story is renamed?-    Tris   07:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

 * I know of the bug. I'm not sure how to defeat it yet.  The problem is that the bot reads the RSS feed, and it doesn't provide enough info about the article to prevent dupes.  I'm on vacation now, but when I get back  I'll try to fix it.  Let me know if you see anything else.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 03:17, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Question
I am new here so the questions might sound dumb. How can we add a news story? Can we contribute a story with quotes? Can we contribute interviews? Thanks. Politis (talk) 13:34, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Good questions. You can add to any news story simply by clicking the "Edit" button at the top, just like any wiki page.  Of course it needs to be verifiable, so if you add really new info, you might need to add a source.  Most stories have quotes, so thats not a problem to add to.  As for interviews, if you see something that need correcting (like a typo), you can fix that - or if you have additional background info to add, sure.  Otherwise it is rather hard to add to the interview portion itself (because you're not doing the interviewing).  Good luck!  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 03:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

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Hia, and welcome to Wikinews. Thanks for fixing that link in Three American hikers arrested in Iran. Gopher65talk 20:26, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

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Talk:Dublin travel agents occupy offices against closure

Thomas Cook, Grafton St

 * Identify self.
 * Speaking to Caroline Cullen accounts assistant and TSSA staff rep
 * How is morale?
 * morale is "brilliant" -- "we actually slept at the front of the shop". people are bringing fresh-baked scones and cakes. "people are giving us money" "absolutely fantastic, the support we get" Joe Higgins in touchwith them, and a team from the Socialist Party is putting up flyers in support of the occupiers around Dublin.
 * vestas contacts really getting morale of the staff up. supermarket came and gave us breakfast. local businesses providing discounts. police are not interfering.

 * How do you feel about occupation?
 * on friday -- we didn't think it would go so far. tried to send staff packing. spontaneous occupatoin: we opened the windows and started screaming, "we're not moving, we'er not moving". taken control of shop. "we haven't moved since".

 * "we go home in shifts", 5 rooms at nearby hotel. go homne fr an hr or two, get some rest, come back.

 * Your colleage at Talbot Srteet talked about "bullying, intimidation and use of abusive language". Can you provide some details?
 * intimidation -- when consultation pd finished, simon robinson came ovre & tried to tell staff they weren't getting right information, threatened that if offer not taken, 2 wks,
 * 2 high-position men sent into office of mostly women (only 2 men of 44 staff). shop is part of their lives. they are all here long service/
 * simon robinson
 * kinnane -- direct hols only
 * different contract at direct holidays -- tssa recognized by contract at thomas cook. but direct hols was refdused any representation at all at all

 * Message for the world?
 * "we would love to get out and thank people fir their support". it does keep up morale. what we're looking for is 8 weeks -- would only cost an extra 400,000 euro.

 * 16 staff at direct holidays. "you cannot live on 5 weeks. travel agents are cdlosing everyweek. there's a hiring freeze at the banks. ther are no jobs out there". we need 8 weeks to live for the nexst 2 yerars while we look foer jobs.

 * 10:30am demonstration. "thomas cook have the chance to come to the table and talk to us. IUt's in their hands, they srtill have tha chance toio come back".

Direct Holidays
The police are not trying to stop food getting in. No police on site at present.
 * Identify self.
 * speaking to Pauline McManigan -- TSSA activist & employee of Thomas Cook trading as Direct Holidays
 * Are you getting food in?
 * getting food in -- general public has been sending in food, teabags milk, chococolate cakes, bread business.
 * You've heard from Vestas -- how do you feel about occupation?
 * we expect to hear from them. e-mails & access to internet at the Direct Holidays office disabled by order of managing director. company's mobiles & phones cut off, so hard to get in touch with the other office.
 * Are you afraid of the police?
 * afraid that a high court action will be served and we'll be forcibly removed. could force way in and arrest us. Occupiers "will not initiate violence". Management: staff must return to work tues morning "as normal" "that's not gonna happen" John kinnane has made thjings extremely difficukt for all staff. he has intimidated staff, bullied staff and used abusive languyage toward female staff" he told one of the girls today to "fuck off". it is a part of a pattern of abusive behavior. threatened "redundancy packages at risk of being revoked". capital holdings offered but employees never acctped. 2 wks statutory + 3 wks from company offered. "this is a company that has made £400 million in profiut this year and has been very gauche about making this known"

 * management issued redundancy notices on 12 may. Staff ballotted to join tssa. john kinnane letter stated he did not recognize TSSA union. this in turn made staff very uneasy as "we were not in any position to consult with senior managers who had their own hidden agenda and proved this when they closed the consultation down when staff said there were other matters that needed to bew discussed"

 * how is the mood
 * "very united. we're all rallying."
 * "Morale is absolutely excellent."

 * Can you send any photos from inside?
 * on tssa site.

 * Message for the world?
 * "the staff at Direct Holidayts based at 17 Tolbert st Dublin 1 never had any intention to strike, officially or unofficially, on these premises. although we did pledge our support to our colleagues based at the grafrton st store &tour union the tssa who have supported us wholeheartedly all the way through this. Thomas cook sent their security firm to this building yesterday to intrimidate its staff and try to bully them into handing over the keys to this premises. staff refused to hand over the keys as there waas a fear that the direct holiday shop based at 17 tolbert st would be stripped over the bank holiday weekend and when we returnedf of tuesday there would be no office here, as was done at Lord Earl St Thomas Cook. Thomas cook/Capital Holdings has provoked all staff based at direct holiday into the action. John kinnane, the managing director of Capital Holdings has never supported staff at Direct Holidays an initiated senior members of human resources from the uk to come to us and bully us. staff at direct holidays will stand firm united and strong throuh all of this. We will not stand down.

 * photos:
 * name & number of tssa press officer -- tom condon 07894390480


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Talk:Israel evicts two Palestinian families from their homes

U.S Aid
has everything to do with this story, that is a crucial part of the context of the "international community's" call on Israel to stop settlement building. That really should be in there.Soapy (talk) 14:42, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Why were they evicted?
Were they just kicked out, or was there an explanation of the motives? "An Israeli court rejected their appeal filed against the eviction" gives the impression that we've overlooked some factual nuances.

I do most of my work at Wikipedia, so I don't know if this would be improper content for an article like this ... Agradman (talk) 06:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

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The first reference gives hint to this question: "Police said they were acting on eviction orders issued by an Israeli court, which upheld a settler organisation's land ownership claim based on 19th-century documents."  It looks like the case was brought to court by a settler organization claiming the property belongs to them based on some 19th century documents. Yaz (talk) 07:52, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

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Here is the answer you were looking for. This info should be included in the article, and the biased and irrelevant politics/settlement background should be deleted from the article :

"...things are not always what they seem and the eviction of the Hanoun and Ghawi families are an apt example of how an appetite for a certain type of story can create that story regardless of the facts. As an organisation that follows media coverage of the Middle East closely, we gathered from Sunday and Monday's reporting, such as on the BBC, in the Guardian and in the Times that the two Palestinian families were evicted because Israeli courts had found that the land belonged to Jews, not to the Palestinians living there. Cut to religiously clad Jews busting in to the newly vacated houses and the whole thing is just obvious: Israel mercilessly turfs Arabs on to the street to plant more settlers in east Jerusalem.

It turns out that this is simply not the case. In fact, there is nothing simple about this case at all. There is a long legal history pertaining to the dispute between 28 Arab families and Jewish organisations over the ownership of the land in question. However, one crucial point was omitted from all reporting from the British sources named above (bar a small amendment to the BBC article made yesterday following a communication from us): the two Arab families evicted on Sunday were evicted for failing to pay rent in violation of the terms of their tenancy agreements. The Arab families who have kept to the terms of their tenancy agreement have not been evicted..."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/06/israel-eviction-palestinian-east-jerusalem

Kinetochore (talk) 03:44, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

This Jpost article verifies the above explanation of the eviction: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1249275681082&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull Kinetochore (talk) 03:54, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

 * ❌ We can't alter the content of a news story after it has already been locked and archived. Please see WN:ARCHIVE. Tempodivalse [talk]  22:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


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Ted Kennedy? u kiden me -02:32, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

 * He'd been a senator for gods know how long. Plus being a Kennedy always helped...and political ally.--66.229.17.185 (talk) 02:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey kid, you better know your place. Don't want the mafia after ya.


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Comments:Homeless man causes bomb scare at LaGuardia Airport in New York City

This guy should look forward to getting raped up the ass in prison for this kind of stuff. What a fucking idiot. No wonder he's homeless and such a fucking genius.

Homeless man causes bomb scare at LaGuardia Airport in New York City (new section)
This gentleman must be either mentally unstable or he trying to get himself into jail to so he will be feed and have roof over his head. -- Colt9033 (talk) 14:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * If the latter were the case, you'd think he'd try pairing up with someone in an insurance scam. 128.211.161.194 (talk) 13:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


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Comments:Food packages to Vestas occupiers cut off

Prior commentary
There have been many comments on this situation at Comments:Vestas_occupation_continues;_left-wing_political_parties_voice_support. Suffice to say, I think there are people more deserving of our sympathy, such as those who've actually been wronged in some way and are not in the process of ignoring the law while seeking others' solidarity. 209.30.177.37 (talk) 03:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * --Killing Vector (talk) 05:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Thank you for your totally irrelevant template message, which, by the way, you forgot to  . Are you honestly suggesting that I "fix" the article by inserting my views on it from the opinions page? I don't think I even suggested there was anything wrong with the article. 209.30.177.37 (talk) 08:31, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Well, if you believe as you say there are people more deserving of our sympathy, write an article about them. --Killing Vector (talk)


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Comments:Israel evicts two Palestinian families from their homes

Why do we (U.S.) continue providing billions in military aid to Israel?
Of all our allies, they surely treat us the most contemptuously, totally ignoring our reasonable requests for moderation and dialog even as they use our money and hardware to perpetrate these outrages. I'm sure when this elevates the level of overt hostility, they'll use that to seek even more matériel from us. We're behaving like a big fat lady with one of those horrible, ill-tempered little dogs. The more it snarls and bites — shows itself to be a perfect mongrel — the more we cuddle it, feed it choice meat picked off the bone and speak to it in soothing baby talk.

The influence exerted by the pro-Israel (partly but not entirely Jewish) faction in this country has us behaving in a disgustingly spineless and oblivious manner. All our admonitions are empty because devoid of any threat of sanction. Meanwhile, Israel's abuses invite scorn on us while we continue to countenance and even fund them. If we had principled leaders who uniformly resisted the policy of wholesale interventionism issues like this would not have the opportunity to arise. 209.30.177.37 (talk) 09:05, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Me personally don't care for a group of people that dance and enjoyed when 9/11 happen.--66.229.17.185 (talk) 12:40, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * And what does that have to do with anything here? You've got an axe to grind sure, but what does any of that (racist/trolling/psychotic, pick one) comment have to do with the illegal eviction of families from the apartment they owned and occupied longer than you've probably been alive? 65.1.135.252 (talk) 14:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * First of all it was condemned by most of the Muslim world, Osama was not really supported by anyone and probably would have lost all of his base of support after 9/11 which almost nobody supported. However maybe we should look at our own crimes before just simply claiming to be the victims of a random attack.  The U.S has supported murderous tyrants in the middle east and been the sponsor of major atrocities against the muslim people.  For instance it was the CIA who funded Saddam Hussein's extremist party in Iraq and who helped him destroy all political parties in Iraq and who kept him in power right up until 2003.  The U.S even helped him put down a rebellion in 1991 while they were still occupying the place.  After 1991 a sanctions regime championed by the U.S killed 500,000 children according to UNICEF.  2 UN Human rights coordinators for Iraq resigned from their posts after calling the sanctions tantamount to genocide.  Well that's just Iraq, and the list goes on in pretty much every country.  A terrible history in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan you name it we committed atrocities in it. Soapy (talk) 17:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

The answer is actually largely known, Israel is the biggest offshore military base of the U.S and the strongest not-US NATO power. The US acts as a godfather, or second home to Israel. It was actually the reason the US supported the creation of such a state during the beginning of the cold war.--Z E U S (talk) 16:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree, however the U.S really didn't care one way or another until 1967 when Israel defeated the U.S's archenemy, president of Egypt, Nasser in the 1967 war. Nasser was proposing the nationalization of Egypt's oil reserves, a very scary idea to U.S planners.  After 1967 the U.S quickly became close allies with Israel, using it as an offshore military base, and using it to funnel money to places like apartheid South Africa, and Chile and Argentina.  For all of Obama's rhetoric I seriously doubt his stance is any different than Bush's on this issue, bear in mind that even Bush said he supported the two-state settlement. Soapy (talk) 17:24, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

why is this news? there are far worse things going on. also i feel that wikipedia should not be quoting Al Jazeera as it is the most unreliable news source that consistently changes details to get its politically driven views across. i am not okay with israel's actions either, but i can tell that this is not news and is just slanderous. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 96.57.114.74 (talk • contribs)

damn jews, think they dont have to abide by the rules. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.10.28.24 (talk • contribs)

Bigotry in action
This biased, untruthful story, is bigotry in action. No one has given the Court's reason for rejecting the Arab families' claims over the properties in question. To ascribe this to "settlerism" is bigotry and mala fide. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 118.94.150.230 (talk • contribs)
 * Surely, then, you can offer proof that this isn't "settlerism"? A source, a link to documentation, pretty much anything that doesn't make this your word against theirs? Just one relevant fact will suffice. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 174.3.35.37 (talk • contribs)

Here: "...things are not always what they seem and the eviction of the Hanoun and Ghawi families are an apt example of how an appetite for a certain type of story can create that story regardless of the facts. As an organisation that follows media coverage of the Middle East closely, we gathered from Sunday and Monday's reporting, such as on the BBC, in the Guardian and in the Times that the two Palestinian families were evicted because Israeli courts had found that the land belonged to Jews, not to the Palestinians living there. Cut to religiously clad Jews busting in to the newly vacated houses and the whole thing is just obvious: Israel mercilessly turfs Arabs on to the street to plant more settlers in east Jerusalem.

It turns out that this is simply not the case. In fact, there is nothing simple about this case at all. There is a long legal history pertaining to the dispute between 28 Arab families and Jewish organisations over the ownership of the land in question. However, one crucial point was omitted from all reporting from the British sources named above (bar a small amendment to the BBC article made yesterday following a communication from us): the two Arab families evicted on Sunday were evicted for failing to pay rent in violation of the terms of their tenancy agreements. The Arab families who have kept to the terms of their tenancy agreement have not been evicted.|

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/06/israel-eviction-palestinian-east-jerusalem

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Biased
Citing Al Jazeera and Voice of America is quite unfair, both being often considered as propaganda tools. This is obviously an attempt to present the news biased and in an anti-Israel tone. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 92.85.132.240 (talk • contribs)
 * I'm sorry, did you just attempt to lump the rightwing, pro-Israel VoA in with Al Jazeera as being too anti-Israel in tone? VoA is practically the "Fox News Foreign Service" ffs. Both Al Jazeera and VoA are biased as all hell, but they are biased in opposite directions. (Personally I don't like using either one as a source if I can help it.)

 * Frankly, if both the Right and the Left are saying the same thing, as well as both your enemies and your allies, it's probably true:P. Anyone who tries to claim that the entire universe is out to get them is nothing but a paranoid nutjob. Anyone who claims that their side never does anything wrong, while the other side is always evil, cannot be trusted.

 * You can claim that the article is biased (it is, a little bit), but please don't try and claim it is biased because "the whole world is out to get me". Gopher65talk 01:56, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Al Jazeera is biased? Really...give me one example please.Soapy (talk) 20:23, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

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this is such a one sided view. refer to http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/08/03/israel.evictions/. the evictions had to do with ownership of property, nothing to do with politics. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tellthetruth (talk • contribs)
 * This is a useful article, but not too useful - it appears neither side is denying that the Palestinian families have been living in that household for fifty years. How did the property come to change hands? If the newly evicted were renters, then certainly the law is on the side of the Israeli families and should therefore the decision should be accepted by the international community. That being said, the silence found around the issue suggests a more complex reality that needs to be illuminated by facts, rather than commentary. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 174.3.35.37 (talk • contribs)

Jerusalem has never been considered occupied territories, only East-Jerusalem has. --Patrick.N.L (talk) 19:34, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

What the hell, this should stop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.58.140.102 (talk) 20:42, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


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shot down by soviet era aircraft? lulz
 * The Gulf War took placed in the last year of the Soviet era dumbass.--66.229.17.185 (talk) 01:56, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Contrary to popular opinion, flying a next-gen aircraft doesn't all of a sudden make one totally invincible. It is perhaps more ironic that a fighter plane here was shot by an interceptor (normally the odds are very much skewed the other way), but shit happens in the war. I would imagine that the pilot of that F-117 downed in Serbia in 1998 had a similar "WTF I'm supposed to be invisible!" moment. 207.216.69.186 (talk) 00:41, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


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New human HIV strain discovered in France

August 4, 2009

A woman in Paris, France has been found to be infected by a strain of the HIV virus with a lineage that is closer to the Simian immunodeficiency virus (SIV) normally found in gorillas than that in chimpanzees. The new strain, which has been designated as P by the University of Rouen and University of Manchester researchers, is the first confirmed human infection of an SIV from a non-Chimpanzee source. "We have identified a new human immunodeficiency virus in a Cameroonian woman. It is closely related to gorilla simian immunodeficiency virus (SIVgor) and shows no evidence of recombination with other HIV-1 lineages. This new virus seems to be the prototype of a new HIV-1 lineage that is distinct from HIV-1 groups M, N and O. We propose to designate it HIV-1 group P," said the researchers.

The 62-year-old woman, originally from Cameroon in Africa and who emigrated to France five years ago, is healthy and shows no sign of AIDS. Her claims of no previous contact with gorillas or with bushmeat suggests human-to-human infection. The prevalence of the new strain is as yet unknown, and researchers are sifting through the woman's contacts for other possible sources of infection.

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Plane carrying sixteen people vanishes over Papua, Indonesia

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A plane carrying sixteen people has vanished over Papua, Indonesia. The Twin Otter propeller-driven aircraft has a crew of three and thirteen passengers, two of whom are babies.

The plane, which belonged to Merpati Nusantara Airlines, was travelling from Sentani Airport, Jayapura, Papua to Oksibil, a town near the Papua New Guinean border. The journey normally takes fifty minutes and only three hours and thirty minutes worth of fuel was on board. It is believed the aircraft has crashed.

Both transportation authorities and the military have launched bids to locate the missing plane, with at least two aircraft taking off to search for the aircraft. However, poor weather conditions have forced these aircraft to return to land.

The plane was over a mountainous area covered with dense forest when air traffic control lost contact. "We're focusing our search on the border between [the] Kerom and Pegunungan Bintang districts... it's a mountainous, jungly region," said air force commander Suwandi Miharja, who is in charge of the search. Aircraft lost in this region have sometimes never been located after suspected crashes.


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One shop defies court order, one shop returns to work in Dublin Thomas Cook occupation

August 3, 2009

Employees staging an occupation of the Thomas Cook travel agency & foreign exchange office in Grafton Street, Dublin, Ireland have voted to defy a High Court order and remain inside their office, in protest against a redundancy offer they say they "cannot live on" while they look for new jobs.

Employees of Thomas Cook subsidiary Direct Holidays in Talbot Street, meanwhile, will return to work tomorrow morning after a narrow majority voted to end their occupation.

According to Transport Salaried Staffs' Association (TSSA) staff member Jon Clark, who is present in the Grafton street office and has now joined the occupation, speaking to Wikinews by telephone, about seventy-five per cent of the 44 Thomas Cook staff voted to keep the occupation going after a Dublin High Court judge set a 7pm deadline for them to vacate the premises. The occupiers now face criminal charges and have been informed that the Garda Síochána will arrive at 11am Tuesday morning to evict them.

Thomas Cook says the Grafton Street store has not been turning a profit for five years and is shutting down retail operations in the Republic of Ireland.

In response, the occupiers and members of TSSA staff present at the site have asked protesters and trade unionists to gather outside the store at 10:30am Tuesday morning and resist the police. A crowd that Clark estimates at 300 rallied today outside the Thomas Cook store in a bank holiday protest supporting the occupation.

TSSA staff in the occupation are now acting in defiance of the their union. TSSA general secretary Gerry Doherty told Dublin's High Court that "my association will always obey the law of the land" during today's hearing, and TSSA staff joining the occupation face possible disciplinary action from the union. Clark told Wikinews that the protesters fear official support from other unions being withdrawn and are attempting to establish a fund to which people can contribute money for the occupiers' welfare. Money can currently be sent via the TSSA's head office in London.

Dublin Lord Mayor and Labour Party member Emer Costello visited the occupation today, lending her support to the protesters. "I find it very disheartening that people have to go to those lengths to try and protect their jobs. It’s a very bad situation. I’m very disappointed that Thomas Cook feels it has to shut down its Irish operation", the mayor told the Irish Times.


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talking with Jon Clark tssa staff
 * Identify self
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 * gen sec tssa -- attachmnt to preexisting order. people would face crim charges if still in at 7pm tonight. overwhelming vote to stay.

 * police will attempt to come in. as many people as possible come at 1030am. ~75% voted to stay all 44 staying. only a few left for childcare

 * graFTON STREET SIT OPP TRIN COLL DUBLIN 1030 AM

 * staff of tssa have voted to stay in support of employees at risk of disciplinjary action from union

 * direct hols occupation ended. only half were in occupation; other half threatened w/ termination

 * 300 at todat's grafton demo

 * not officially union occupation -- other unions might pull sdupport. welfare fund being set up in support. money can be sentv to tssa head office.

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Melbourne terror raids nab suspects

August 4, 2009 Australian Federal Police have caught four people suspected of plotting a terrorist attack in Melbourne. The suspects, all Australian citizens of Somali and Lebanese descent, were arrested early this morning Melbourne time.

"Police believe members of a Melbourne-based group have been undertaking planning to carry out a terrorist attack in Australia and allegedly involved in hostilities in Somalia," a police statement says.

"The men's intention was to actually go into the Army barracks and to kill as many soldiers as they could before they themselves were killed," acting Australian Federal Police deputy commissioner Tony Negus told a press conference. "This operation has disrupted an alleged terrorist attack that could have claimed many lives."

The raids were carried out by officers from Australian Security Intelligence Organisation, Australian Federal Police, Victoria Police, New South Wales Police and the New South Wales Crime Commission.

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Luckily Japan has the economic upper hand
Other nations around the globe do not have this luck and US Army thugs roam free with a licence to do anything. Only in Romania there were ten cases. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teo_Peter

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The big difference between the Japan incident and this Romania incident is that the latter was committed by a person with Diplomatic Immunity. Read the source: "Peter was killed in a traffic accident at 4:30am on December 3, 2004 when 31-year-old U.S. Marine Staff Sergeant Christopher Van Goethem serving as a Marine Security Guard at the U.S. embassy in Bucharest[3], while driving his Ford Expedition, collided with a taxi carrying Peter. Van Goethem, allegedly drunk, did not obey a traffic signal to stop, which resulted in the collision. Peter was buried on December 7 in Mănăştur Cemetery, in his native Cluj-Napoca." ... "The Romanian government requested the American government lift his diplomatic immunity[6], which it has refused to do. "

As far as I understand from the sources, the Japan incident was committed by a military person without diplomatic immunity.

Yaz (talk) 08:14, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

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Expulsion of Muslims the Only True Security
As Old Christendom had learned, with disruptive elements, the best way of dealing with them is to both expel them, and to go on an aggressive counter-campaign to roll back their territorial aggressions, to contain them. That old wisdom is still the best wisdom.

Also remember that in Australia, as in France, the U.K., Denmark, India and elsewhere, Mahomettans have systematically targeted non-Muslim girls and women for rapes, thus sparking a series of anti-Muslim "race riots" in Australia a few years back!

See also: http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_12969699?source=rss&nclick_check=1

Mahomettans are exploiting the deliberate blindness of the Liberals to destroy the West. Long before the Soviets were a threat, Mahomettanism was a threat to mankind. It still is, as 9/11 shows. You may bomb the Serbs and carve out Bantustans like Bosnia and Kosovo-Mehojia out of other peoples' lands to appease the Mahomettans, but there is no middle ground, you are either for or against. To be for, you must absolutely submit to them.

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Hbelle 05 (talk) 08:57, 4 August 2009 (UTC)I'm new at wikinews and i have saved an article entitled 'From Loans To Millions' and i was just wondering how i can go to the message board and tell you that the source of the story was just an email? Thanks
 * Your article was deleted as it qualified as spam. Please see the Introduction and do not force edits to maintenance pages that redirect users elsewhere. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The place to discuss your article is its discussion page (Talk:From loans to millions: how Lee John turned a £10,000 loan investment to over £50 miillion Business empire). The article itself has been tagged as notnews. If someone emailed you what you have pasted in as a so-called story then it has to be deleted, you don't own the copyright or have the right to share their little fairytale.
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The Socialist Left Party’s election initiative starts in Norway

August 4, 2009

Today, Norway's Socialist Left Party (SV) launched their new election initiative named "up from the couch." The campaign aims to get first-time voters and so-called "couch voters" to vote in the upcoming election.

Kristin Halvorsen, the Norwegian Minister of Finance and Party leader for SV, explained, "It’s a wakeup call, because those who sit on the couch let others decide for them. That’s way we are mobilizing as much as we can until Election Day."

In the 2005 election only 55 % of first time voters used their voting rights. “It’s a challenge to get the younger voters to vote, because many of them haven’t done it before. We know that adults and older people are better in using their voting right then younger people," said Minister Halvorsen.

The 2005 election showed that 1 in 3 of the voters who had voted for SV in the 2001 election switched to the Norwegian Labour Party. Only 43% of SV's voters continued to vote for them. On election day, SV got 8.8% of the total national votes. Minister Halvorsen stated "We have a goal to mobilize enough to get 10 % of the voter’s behind us."


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 * Here's the interview, apparently;). http://decap.dk/sv/ Gopher65talk 19:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Source & stats
It's pretty hard to publish this with no way to verify what is said in the article. Can you at least say when the interview took place, in what medium it was published, and who published it?

Also, what do the stray "1"'s mean in the following sentences:

"The 2005 election showed that 1 in 3 of the SV voters from 2001 changed to the workers party. Only 43 % of the SV voters continued to vote for them 1. On Election Day SV got 8.8 %1 of the total national votes."

It's hard to tell if they're accidental, or if they have some weird meaning in the Norwegian electoral system. Gopher65talk 19:42, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

this is the interview. http://decap.dk/sv/. As for the the stray 1 its an error.


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Imprisoned American journalists in North Korea pardoned, to return to US

August 4, 2009 Two imprisoned American journalists in North Korea, Laura Ling and Euna Lee, have been pardoned and are to return to the U.S.. This comes after former U.S. President Bill Clinton met with the North Korean leader Kim Jong-il and the two journalists earlier today.

"Kim Jong-il issued an order of the chairman of the DPRK National Defense Commission on granting a special pardon to the two American journalists who had been sentenced to hard labor in accordance with Article 103 of the Socialist Constitution and releasing them," said the KCNA news agency as reported by Reuters.

Clinton traveled to the nation for a "private meeting" with North Korean officials to discuss the detention and possible release of Ling and Lee. ABC News earlier stated that the meeting between Clinton and the journalists was "very emotional", and that the U.S. was "hopeful" that Ling and Lee would be released. Ling and Lee left on Clinton's plane, and landed safely in Japan Wednesday. They are expected to reach Los Angeles shortly.

Ling and Lee are journalists for Current TV based in California. Lee is the editor of the news for Current TV and Ling is one of the agency's reporters. They were said to have been shooting a video of the border region of China and N. Korea when they were arrested at the Tumen River in late March after allegedly crossing into North Korea from China illegally. They were both convicted in June of possible hostile acts against North Korea, entering the country illegally and were sentenced to 12 years of hard labor in a labor camp.


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Thomas Cook occupiers arrested, released; company to return to negotiating table

August 4, 2009

In what participants are terming a victory, all 28 of the occupiers arrested this morning at the Thomas Cook office in Grafton Street, Dublin, Ireland have been released with a minimal punishment and Thomas Cook management are returning to the negotiating table.

Employees had made plans to strike in order to obtain a larger redundancy package following the announcement of the closure of their store; when the company attempted to close the store earlier and without warning, in response the workers began an occupation.

Of the over 44 people occupying the office last night, 28 refused to leave and were arrested between 4am and 5am this morning in a pre-dawn raid by the Garda Síochána reported to have involved at least 80 officers. "It was quite scary" when the police broke through the office's glass door, noted occupier Caroline Cullen, speaking to Wikinews. "We haven't had any notice", she recalls telling the officers. Occupiers had expected the police to arrive later at 11am.

Cullen reports that of the 28 arrested, 27 went immediately to jail where they spent about nine hours; the 28th, Avril Boyne, was nine months pregnant and entered labour as the police arrived. She was taken to hospital and delivered a healthy baby girl, Chelsea, just after 11am.

While in jail, Cullen says that the 27 "weren't treated like criminals". They were not handcuffed and were provided with good food. The meal consisted of a hot lunch of fish & chips, and chocolates for dessert. The Gardaí also gave the occupiers private toilet facilities.

In court, the arrests of the 27 for contempt of court were purged, on the condition that they each sign a document saying they would comply with the court order in the future.

The employees of the Thomas Cook office in Grafton Street will return to work as usual tomorrow, with negotiations about the size of the employees pension package resuming tomorrow morning between the employees and Thomas Cook management. The workers will be represented by TSSA general secretary Gerry Doherty. Cullen told Wikinews that the Thomas Cook workers were "absolutely delighted" with the situation and hope to have a final settlement with the company tomorrow. The Thomas Cook employees were supported in their occupation by the community and an impromptu and growing coalition of left-wing political groups. Socialist Party Councillor Matt Waine and People Before Profit Councillor Richard Boyd Barrett were among the 28 arrested this morning; the Workers Solidarity Movement and Eirigí also supported the demonstrations from the beginning; Sinn Féin made an official declaration of support after this morning's arrests; and two Labour Party (Ireland) TDs, not speaking officially for the party, criticised Thomas Cook management's conduct in statements released after the occupiers were released.

Trade union Unite has declared solidarity with the TSSA and the Thomas Cook workers.

Speaking to Wikinews from Socialist Party headquarters, Matt Waine told Wikinews that he and his party consider the results of the Thomas Cook occupation "definitely not a loss. It's a victory. The workers have laid down a very important marker for other workers that are in a similar situation." Workers, though, must remain militant, he said: "we feel that this issue has thrown the gauntlet down as to what they [workers] can expect from the police, the state etc. if they take action...this doesn't end here. I think the issue still remains of justice for the workers in terms of a decent redundancy package."

Waine also took issue with the TSSA's refusal to support the occupiers after last night's court order ruled that the industrial action was an illegal occupation. While allowing that the TSSA's response in court was made "under pressure", Waine said that always complying with the law, as general secretary Doherty pledged the TSSA would do, is "not what the trade union should stand for. The rights of members should be paramount."

Thomas Cook management was unavailable for comment.


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 * soc party -- Matt Waine says: "we feel that this issue has thrown tyhe gaunt;let down as to what they can exect from the police, the state etc if they take action"

 * everybody was released. 28th was taken to hospital.

 * thomas cook willing to negotiate

 * tssa response was made "under pressure" but it's "not what the trade union should stand for right of menmbers should be paramount"

 * councillor & sp member matt waine

 * "this doesn't end here...I think the isue still remains of justice for the workers in terman of a decent redundancy pasckage"

 * "definitely not a loss. it's a victory. wthe workers have laid down a verty important marker for other workers that are in a similatr situations.

 * people before profit alliance: no answer

 * Tom Condon: -- will wait for statement

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 * "we're meeting tomorrow to talk"
 * "we're absolutely delighted with this"
 * "it was quite scary" "we havebn't had any notice"
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Formula One: Renault dismisses Piquet, Schumacher barred from practising

August 4, 2009 Formula One racing team Renault F1 has dismissed Nelson Piquet, Jr., whose father Nelson Piquet, Sr. won the world championship three times, after his failure to obtain any points this season. WilliamsF1 have separately announced that they will not allow Michael Schumacher to practise with the current car of rival Scuderia Ferrari as he returns after nearly three years of absence.

Piquet released a statement criticising his former team and its manager, Flavio Briatore. "I feel a sense of relief for the end of the worst period of my career, I can now move on and put my career back on the right track, and try to recover my reputation of a fast winning driver," he said.

Piquet said of Briatore "A manager is supposed to encourage you, support you and provide you with opportunities. In my case it was the opposite. Flavio Briatore was my executioner." He gained nineteen points last season but has failed to win any in the ten races of the 2009 season.

Piquet and Renault are both looking to move ahead. Piquet is seeking a new team, while it is unknown who Renault will hire to replace Piquet.

Schumacher, meanwhile, will not get behind the wheel of the current Ferrari car until his first race since coming out of retirement, the European Grand Prix on August 23 in Valencia, Spain. Ferrari had written to the sport's governing body, the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), as well as the other eight members of the Formula One Teams Association (FOTA) hoping to have him exempted from a ban on in-season testing.

Schumacher's last F1 race was in 2006. Since confirming his comeback he has had a chance to practise in a 2007 Ferrari race car, but new technology featured on the modern version remains unused by Schumacher. Seven members of the FOTA agreed Schumacher should be exempted but Williams saw no reason to do so. Williams pointed out that 19-year-old F1 newcomer Jaime Alguersuari got no chance to practise with a modern F1 car before his first race.

"While we welcome Michael Schumacher back to Formula One, the fact is any form of in-season circuit testing is strictly prohibited, a regulation clearly laid out by the FIA and adhered to by all of the teams," explained the team. "It was for this reason Alguersuari … did not have the opportunity to familiarise himself with the Scuderia Toro Rosso [team's car] before he made his race debut."

Schumacher, seven-times world champion, has returned to his old team to fill in for Felipe Massa, who suffered life-threatening head injuries after striking a spring which had detached itself from Rubens Barrichello's Brawn GP car. Massa was flown back home to Brazil today and said he was looking forward to life returning to normal, as well as to racing his Ferrari F1 car again. He remembers nothing of his high-speed crash.


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Four dead, at least 15 injured after gunman opens fire at fitness center in Bridgeville, Pennsylvania

August 5, 2009

Four people have been shot and killed and at least 15 wounded when a gunman opened fire inside a LA Fitness center in Bridgeville, Pennsylvania. The gunman was among the dead.

Reports say the man walked into a dance room where an all-female Latin dance class was in session, turned off the lights and began to shoot people. CNN reports that the gunman was a "middle-aged white male." One witness said he was carrying a duffel bag, which he put down before shooting into the crowd. After opening fire, he turned the gun on himself. At least 30 people are reported to have been in the room at the time of the shooting.

Allegheny County police Superintendent Charles Moffatt said, "I've never seen nothing quite like this. It was very chaotic. [...] There's a good belief that the shooter is deceased."

Collier Township Police Chief Tom Devin stated that the police, "believe the shooter committed suicide at the scene but we're not positive." Police report that the shooter's motive may have been a domestic dispute with one of the exercisers.

Mike Hentosz, a witness who was inside the gym, said, "I feel like it's a dream. I don't know what to think of it." A woman participating in the class, Nicole, said that 10 minutes into the class, "a middle-aged white male walked into the class. He had a big gym bag. [...] He looked out of place in a class full of women." When he began firing, she reported, she ran out of the gym and escaped in passerby's car.


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Full review should be conducted when events have calmed down and there is a consensus in sources as to what happened. --SVTCobra 03:32, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Casualty figures
It appears based on the Pittsburgh Channel article (among other sources) that the total death toll was 4, and that the reports of 5 were double counting the shooter. However, that source and others still say 15 people were wounded, and I doubt it was as low as 10. Superm401 | Talk 08:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


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I drove by the L.A. Fitness around 8:20 with ambulances all around it, along with several police cars. --67.163.196.147 (talk) 03:32, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

"all-female Latin dance class" THAT BASTARD  —69.156.13.145 (talk) 17:03, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

The killer's comments
I'm not too far through it, but I suggest you all read http://georgesodini.com/20090804.htm - the website left behind by the killer. I think I'm started to understand. NOT sympathise, before anyone flames me, I want him alive and jailed so that his depression clamps down on him but without escape. Many people go through extraordinarily fucked-up times in their lives without killing others; but he took his feelings out elsewhere - and, crucialy, didn't just snap but instead planned it over many months. Nonetheless, if we want to prevent this from happening we must learn to understand the why - otherwise, the slaughter will keep on coming. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:06, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I read it earlier. And I cannot decide what disturbs me more: What he wrote, or the fact that there were probably people who read it and didn't say anything to anyone. In situations like this, you need to report it. Serious or not, these events must be dealt with. We had Virginia tech the same way. I would rather be safe and report something like this, then be sorry. Also I cannot grasp why the site is still active. Service unavailable. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:14, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

this is unbelivable! cant believe someone can kill others by simply being a loser...

condolence to inocent people that's got hurt.

Unfortunately for Mr. Sodini, I don't think the Eighth Amendment is going to protect him from suffering the "cruel and unusual punishment" of Hell. --Ixfd64 (talk) 23:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, if it exists. Voice of All (talk) 04:25, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it's just a shame our legal system isn't as angry and arbitrary as the old testament. Oh, unless you count life imprisonment. It's a pretty good attempt. —69.156.13.145 (talk) 07:59, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

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British constable may be prosecuted for manslaughter

August 5, 2009

A police constable serving with the Metropolitan Police Service in London, England may be prosecuted for manslaughter over the death of a bystander at a protest that occurred during the G-20 summit earlier this year.

After concluding what it says is its largest ever investigation, the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has sent its file on the death of Ian Tomlinson to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS).

Ian Tomlinson died on April 1, 2009 from injuries sustained when he was allegedly struck and pushed to the ground by a police officer. The CPS will now consider if enough evidence exists and if it is in the public interest to bring a prosecution for manslaughter. Tomlinson was an innocent bystander caught in the police cordon at the G-20 Meltdown protest near the Bank of England. Initially it was claimed by the police that Tomlinson had had no contact with the police, that he had collapsed most probably because of stress and exhaustion, and that protesters had attacked police officers trying to give him first aid. The first of two postmortems concluded that Tomlinson had died of a heart attack.

Following the publication of the postmortem, an American tourist handed over film footage of the moments leading up to Ian Tomlinson's death to The Guardian newspaper. This footage showed a police constable of the Territorial Support Group striking Tomlinson across the legs with his baton before pushing him to the ground. The Guardian story prompted other news organisations including Channel 4 to review their own recordings of the protest. The retrieved footage from a number of sources and the testimony of witnesses produced evidence that contradicted the veracity of all aspects of the police version of events.

Subsequent to these revelations a second postmortem was held, this second postmortem concluding that internal injuries sustained as a result of his fall were the most likely cause of Tomlinson's death.

A request was made by the police service for the police constable filmed to make himself known, an individual came forward and was questioned under caution. He remains suspended from duty.


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Talk:British constable may be prosecuted for manslaughter

This will fail a review as it is not written with an international audience in mind. It is completely UK-centric in title and opening and doesn't even mention what country it refers to. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:06, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the suggestion, I've retitled the article and added a new introduction, do I need to do anything else to internationalise the article.KTo288 (talk) 12:33, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Great improvement on the title, I couldn't think of anything. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:35, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


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Tigger hits kid
Pretty weird... made me laugh a little, but I feel sorry for the kid. I speak in defense for the guy: He lost his breath. (See Incidents at Disney Parks

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This article really gave me the real story, making Jerry not so "innocent." Good work! —24.34.110.38 (talk) 22:05, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Preposterous sham....
the first thing the character does is put his hand to his neck, the second thing he does is to get the yobbo's arm away from his back. A totally reactionary movement against a troublemaking little twunt. I hope he got full pay and reinstatement after this release, but sadly I think that very unlikely.


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Something I've wondered about France....they have the highest sex rates in the world, yet have a relatively low STD rate....128.211.161.194 (talk) 13:46, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Gorrilas??
Her BF must like em. --208.114.130.122 (talk) 17:09, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


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Stage collapse at Canadian "Big Valley Jamboree" kills one, and seriously injures four others

August 5, 2009

Two probes have been initiated into the collapse of the Big Valley Jamboree stage which killed one person, placed four others in the critical care unit and caused injuries to 75 others in Camrose, Alberta located in Canada.

"We are trying to determine from what is left of the evidence what damage was done by the wind and what damage was down by rescue workers. We may not be able to make that determination. So that is going to hamper things. It will be tougher," Chris Chodan, spokesman for Alberta Occupational Health and Safety.

Panhandle Productions has brought in independent investigators to determine why the stage collapsed and to collect evidence. Due to the large number of people trapped under the stage the evidence had to be moved for rescue operations. The stage collapsed shortly before 6:00 p.m. local time on Saturday killing 35-year-old Donna Moore, who was attending the festival from Lloydminster. Premier Global Productions supplies the stage for the event, which are transported from venue to venue in sections via three semi trailers. "It's their stage. In fact, I know this stage has been used by Paul McCartney, it's been used by Metallica, and by Tim McGraw on tour." said Larry Werner the producer from Panhandle Productions.

The stage is suspected to have been brought down by a phenomenon called plough wind, which produces winds similar to a tornado. This particular front hit speeds greater than 100 km/hr (62 mi/hr). A plough wind travels in narrow straight line paths rather than in circular formations, but causes damage similar to that inflicted by a tornado.

Alberta Municipal Affairs has initiated their investigation into the engineering specifications of the stage and emergency procedures. Alberta occupational health and safety is investigating building codes.

The Big Valley Jamboree is a large annual country music festival located in Camrose, Alberta, Canada which sees 25,000 people attending the four day event.


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Thanks North Korea! Sometimes Kim Jong-Il seems so human.--70.100.0.44 (talk) 16:47, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah. What a great man, to do such a selfless deed. 206.74.5.136 (talk) 06:21, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Kim Jong-Il will seem most human in his whole life with his neck in the noose. Or a bullet through his head. 207.216.69.186 (talk) 07:29, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

USA with a bipolar disorder
The US Empire is collapsing very hard, very fast and very painfully. This decade, the USA turned itself into a fascist dictatorship. After the three disasters that are Afganistan, Iraq and Pakistan and the Obama election, we are in the presence of a USA with a bipolar disorder:

- Pres. Obama goes to Egypt, makes a wonderful peace and reconciliation speech;

- PNAC people support a military coup in Honduras and a "[insert color here EXCEPT RED] Revolution" in Iran (though the last one has John Bull as the main protagonist);

- Pres. Obama goes to Russia, makes a wonderful peace and reconciliation speech, that leaves the russians in awe;

- Two "US-asian journalists" are caught and imprisioned in North Korea and sentenced to 12 years hard labor;

- Former US Pres. Clinton goes to North Korea, carrying a message of peace and reconciliation - the two "journalists" are freed, bilateral talks between US and NK are reopened, Kim Jong-Il and Clinton holding hands together, smiling like friends...

The decline of the US Empire is proceeding very well. Fascist dictatorship => Bipolar disorder (a result from the "Repucrat" entity) => US Republic?

Let's wait and see... I very much hope so...

 * How old are you? I'd presume either under 13 or over 70. --Bisected8 (talk) 16:34, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The USA has ALWAYS been a republic...since the day of independence. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:10, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Since "republic" is a blanket term for any system of government that isn't a monarchy that doesn't say much. That said, I still don't see the OP's point. --Bisected8 (talk) 04:10, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


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Canadian theatre producers sentenced for fraud

August 5, 2009

and Myron Gottlieb, founders of (Livent) in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, were sentenced Wednesday to concurrent prison terms for corporate fraud and forgery which resulted in millions of dollars in losses to their investors for close to a decade. Drabinsky received four years on one count and seven years on a second count. Gottlieb got four years and six years on two counts of fraud.

"No one is above the law. No one gets to write his own rules," said  Mary Lou Benotto. "Corporate fraud such as this results in tangible losses to employees, creditors and investors."

Senior executives Drabinsky, Gottlieb, Robert Topol, and Gorden Eckstein were all charged by the RCMP in 2002. Eckstein pleaded guilty to fraud and testified at the court cast against Drabinsky and Gottleib. Topol had his trial stayed due to adjournments and delays.

The Livent company had produced plays such as ', , ', and  in Toronto, before its sale to in 1998. Ovitz ordered an audit of the company following which it went bankrupt by the year's end. Livent filed a 225 million lawsuit against the former chairman Drabinsky and former president Gottlieb, who were summarily dismissed.

Drabinsky and Gottlieb are also facing charges in the United States for misrepresentations of financial worth to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.


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South Korean police battle striking workers

August 5, 2009 Police raided the SsangYong Motor Company's plant in South Korea today, in order to evict workers who have been occupying the plant since May in protest of proposed layoffs. Most of the workers were those who were previously fired for opposing layoffs.

100–400 police officers raided the auto plant south of Seoul at around 10:00 a.m. (local time). Police intended to evict some 600 striking workers who, according to a union representing the workers, "will fight to the death should police forcefully break up the occupation." Workers at the plant are resisting police by attacking them with slingshots, metal pipes and molotov cocktails.

During the raid, two unnamed workers fell from the four story building while trying to stop the police from landing onto the roof from cargo containers dropped by helicopter. Both sustained injuries, with one in critical condition from the amount of blood he lost.

SsangYong Motor Company has been in court-approved bankruptcy since February and is planning on laying off a third of its workforce to stay in business. However, workers say the company should provide a better proposal regarding the layoffs as well as a more reasonable compensation package for workers being laid off. The situation has caused the company to lose more than US$184 million in output.


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Why not murder?
Why not a murder charge? The test for murder in England and Wales (as with Scotland and prob. NI as well) is that they either sought to kill without just cause or didn't care if they killed. Based on the footage, I rather doubt the cuntstable constable cared. He certainly aimed to seriously hurt the man; if we follow this through, murder should be a charge that can be proved since anyone who intends serious harm cannot possibly be concerned for the life of the individual concerned. I know Scotland automaticaly charges every murder with an alternative culpable homicide charge (broadly equivelant to manslaughter); while I don't know if England and Wales does this, it can be done individually so there is no loss with a murder charge, and I suspect a conviction would be very easy to obtain. I should point out that I have a lawyer in my family, a former Procurator Fiscal at that, so I know what I'm talking about here. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:45, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Although I hope the constable gets what he deserves, in reality all he did was push the man, not shoot him. I don't think it would be fair to anybody to charge them with murder if they pushed someone and it happened to kill them.  However, that being said, the police behaved extremely violently and unreasonably during these protests, and I hope that there is enough public outcry to stop such tactics as "kettling" from happening again.Soapy (talk) 15:57, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

 * The charges should be dropped. I don't know what killed the guy, but it wasn't being pushed to the ground or struck in the legs. --SVTCobra 17:16, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Whether or not his actions contributed to the guy's death is exactly what the trial's for. The charges are based on the fact he attacked him and he later died. Incidentally IIRC the coroner (the second one) concluded that the two may have been related. With all due respect, I think their opinion (and their access to the information they based it on) might count for more than yours.--Bisected8 (talk) 16:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


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Brazilian environmentalists tell residents to urinate in shower to save water

August 5, 2009 Environmentalists in Brazil are urging the country's residents to urinate in the shower while washing themselves, to help conserve water and save the rainforest. Television ads being aired in the country claim that by doing so, the nation could save over 1,000 gallons of water per household each year.

SOS Mata Atlantica ran the ad campaign in an attempt to use comedy to get people to reduce the amount of water they use. "[The ad is] a way to be playful about a serious subject," said Adriana Kfouri, a spokesperson for Atlantica.

The animated ad narrated by children shows people, including a trapeze artist, an alien and dancers, all taking a shower while at the same time, urinating in it. The ending of the ad then states, "Pee in the shower! Save the Atlantic rainforest!"

Ken Livingstone, former mayor of London, England, proposed a similar campaign in 2006. He said urine should be classified as a "green waste" and that "there is no earthly reason that you need to flush the loo if you have merely urinated. That's a huge saving of water."


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The real question is, did they ever produce The Producers? That would be far too ironic (and awesome). --AdamField (talk) 23:15, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


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Talk:Torrential rainstorms kill over 200 in Karachi, Pakistan

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Talk:Suicide bomber assassinates prominent Shia cleric in Karachi, Pakistan

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Talk:27 dead after consuming poisonous alcohol

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Talk:Six killed in bridge collapse in Pakistan

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Talk:Pakistani train derailment kills at least 56

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Talk:Death toll from Pakistan train crash officially lowered to 40

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Talk:Pakistan on high alert as violence spreads in Balochistan

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Talk:Pakistan: Nawab Akbar Bugti Killed in Baluchistan

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Talk:Second fire in Pakistani office building this year kills one, injures four

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Talk:Sewerage project starts in Pakistan

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Talk:Explosion kills 35 in Pakistan; many injured

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