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Pakistan warned British intelligence about terrorist plans to bomb London

July 17, 2005

A British newspaper has revealed that Pakistan had warned British counter-terrorism experts in May 2005 about terrorist plans to bomb London in the 'early summer'.

The Pakistani interior minister, Aftab Sherpao, told The Observer that interrogations of a 25-year old Pakistani-born Briton believed to be a member of al-Qaeda had revealed a plot to 'bomb London pubs, restaurants and possibly railway stations'.

On July 7, 55 people were killed and over 700 injured in a series of co-ordinated terrorist attacks on London transport, including underground railway stations. Senior British police officers denied receiving any warning before the attacks.

However, Mr Sherpao said that Pakistan intelligence had 'received information from a number of sources and passed it on to the British' in May. Pakistani sources claim that after the London attacks, British investigators have travelled to Pakistan to interview the terrorist supect.


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Death toll in Musayyib, Iraq fuel tanker blast rises to 98

July 17, 2005

The death toll from a suicide bomb attack in Musayyib, Iraq has risen to 98. A suicide bomber attacked a fuel truck arriving at the gas station in the Iraqi town overnight on July 16, running up to the truck and detonating his explosives. The huge blast which followed killed many locals at a crowded vegetable market near the local Shi'ite mosque.

Early reports put the number of dead at between 50-60, but this has risen as the full scale of the carnage has become apparent. Hospital sources said they were treating 75 wounded, including 19 in a serious condition. The attack in Musayyib was the deadliest suicide attack since 125 people were killed in February in nearby Al Hilla.

'This is a black day in the history of the town,' the Musayyib police chief, Yas Khudayr, said.

Musayyib lies south of Baghdad, in the center of a dangerous area known as the 'triangle of death', where patrolling US forces are subject to constant attack from Iraqi resistance forces.

Angry crowds protested on Sunday against the local authorities, which they blamed for not doing enough to prevent the attack. According to one protester, police had placed a ban on trucks entering the town, but had allowed the fuel tanker through.

During a parliamentary session in Baghdad, the government was blamed by politicians for the dire security situation. Calls were made for local militia to be formed to replace the police and soldiers who had failed to protect Iraqis.

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Manchester City agree big money for Shaun Wright-Phillips to move to Chelsea FC

July 17, 2005

Chelsea FC had a bid of £20,000,000 for the England winger rejected on Friday after they finally made their interest in the player official.

Shaun Wright-Phillips had declared on Friday he was happy to stay at Manchester City FC, but 24 hours later he asked City to agree a fee with Chelsea so that he could move to Stamford Bridge.

Both sides have now thrashed out a fee for Wright-Phillips and the flying winger has now been given permission to open talks with Chelsea.

"As a result of Shaun's request to speak to Chelsea we have conducted a series of complex negotiations with Chelsea," City's communications chief, Paul Tyrrell.

"A fee for Shaun's transfer of £21,000,000 has been agreed and consequently we have granted his wish to talk to the other club."

Chelsea are hoping to tie up a deal with Wright-Phillips as soon as possible so that he can join them on their tour of the U.S.A next week.


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Talk:54 killed by suicide bomber at Musayyib gas station

# of suicide bombings in Iraq before the invasion = 0
There was never a suicide bomber attack in Iraq until after we came to town; not one. Why didn't it happen under Saddam if he was worse than us? Tell me again, why are we there ? Paulrevere2005 12:08, 17 July 2005 (UTC)


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I live in Cape Town, South Africa, and yes, I'm the same Greenman from the English wikipedia, as well as who tinkers with the Afrikaans wikipedia, hopefully without causing too much damage.

I'm very keen to see Wikipedia's in the other South African languages - anyone who can help please contact me.

You can get a pretty good idea of my interests by looking at the articles to which I've contributed - mostly South African interest.

I also have a [|a blog].

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Israeli PM assassin Yigal Amir on open-ended hunger strike

July 17, 2005

Yigal Amir, the student who assassinated Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, began a hunger strike on June 28th in protest against "the basic human rights abuse by Israel's prison authorities", as he describes it. According to the prison service, he's not in a proper hunger strike because he drinks 5 liters of sweet raspberry-flavoured drink (otherwise known as "petel") every day. Disputing that (according to updates from Larisa Trembovler journal) Yigal Amir in a phone conversation insists that it is a lie and he is not given anything near 5 liters of drinks a day. Also regardless of prison service definitions he continues with the hunger strike.

The issue of contention is denial of recognition of his marriage to Larisa Trembovler by Israeli Prisons Service.

In January 2004, when news of the couple's intentions reached the press, Israel Prisons Service Commissioner Lieutenant General Ya'akov Ganot rejected Amir's request to marry in jail, even though by then the Prison Service had itself submitted a formal application for permission to hold the ceremony. Ganot even requested that the legal department be "prepared to defend the decision."

Two months ago, Amir and Trimbovler asked the Association for Civil Rights in Israel to represent them before the Prison Service, and present their desire to marry within the prison walls.

According to the Association, "The right to marry applies to prisoners as well; human rights also apply to Yigal Amir." The association said that the couple performed the "marriage by messenger" for lack of alternatives "after they were deprived of their basic right to marry, as it is normally understood."


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Saddam Hussein formally charged with the killing of Shia Muslims

July 17, 2005

The Special Tribunal set up to try Saddam Hussein has made its first formal charge against him.

Saddam and three others have been charged with the killings in Dujail, the town in which the ex-president survived an assassination attempt in 1982. The charge is minor compared to other crimes Saddam is accused of committing; however he would still face the death penalty if he were to be convicted. The Tribunal is said to have picked this charge as it is one in which the investigation has progressed the most.

Many Iraqis would prefer a quick trial of the ex-president, and so the Special Tribunal has picked a charge they are confident they can convict on quickly. The date for the trial is set to be announced in the next few days. Iraqi law states that a trial can only begin 45 days after the charges have been made, and therefore the proceedings could start as early as September.

Other than Saddam Hussein, his brother-in-law Barzan Ibrahim Al-Hassan, former vice-president Taha Yasin Ramadan and former top judge Awad Badar Al-Bender are also being charged in the Dujail case.

The Iraqi Government has said it plans to bring only 12 charges against the former leader, each of them carrying the death penalty, out of a possible 500 of which he is accused. The trial is expected to start as early as September.


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Gulf Air launches direct flights to the Middle East from Dublin

July 17, 2005

Middle Eastern carrier has announced it is to provide direct flights from Dublin, Ireland to its hub in Manama, Bahrain from December three times a week. This is the first ever scheduled long haul route from Ireland not to North America.

Gulf Air, which is owned jointly by the Kingdom of Bahrain, the Sultanate of Oman and the Emirate of Abu Dhabi, will commence service using an on the 2nd December 2005.

Gulf Air is hoping travellers will use the service as a gateway to Asia, Africa and Oceania. Previously most travellers went via Paris and London to reach destinations not served by a direct link.


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Talk:Manchester City agree big money for Shaun Wright-Phillips to move to Chelsea FC

It would be nice if someone could rename this for clarity. I thought the headline was talking about the Michigan, USA cities of Manchester and Chelsea which are nearby eachother. I'd do it but I'm not entirely sure what it's talking about. At first I thought a business (Shawn Wright-Phillips) was moving from Manchester to Chelsea...but then after reading it several times I realised it was talking about sports. Soccer maybe?-- Ross Koepke Talk 16:22, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Err, yep. Soccer. 62.55.149.206 21:36, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

haha ever heard of the English Premier league? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.70.240.65 (talk) 22:12, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


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Talk:Pakistan warned British intelligence about terrorist plans to bomb London

Is 'co-ordinated' the UK version of 'coordinated' or is that a typo? -- Ross Koepke Talk 16:28, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Did authorities "let it happen"????
This wikipedia report may be an eyeopener for some about the willingness of some American leaders to kill and/or facilitate the killing of their own citizens for foreign policy objectives. []. I can only hope that the British authorities have not sunk so low.

The history of allowing and passively engineering enemy attacks upon citizens in order to move public opinion toward a pro-war "let's get the bastards" majority is not a "conspiracy theory"..it's just plain western history. e.g. [] [][]... that ruse cost the lives of 68,000 American servicemen..then there is [] and []; and maybe even 9/11[]

The point,in my opinion, is that the people,the voters, have to actually do some research and think about the post tragedy stories our governments put forth.

Finally, and this will require some research in order to confirm or refute, (unless one prefers to just resort to name-calling)powerful interests within the USA for the past 2 centuries have had clandestine foreign policies which included and embraced frame-ups and violent attacks upon civilians in order to move populations in a particular direction and or to obtain strategic positioning geographically[][]

For some inexplicable reason I read a book by Walter Russell Mead of the U.S. Council of Foreign Relations [] titled "Special Providence: American Foreign Policy and How it Changed the World"[] a book that showed how much of a mushroom I really am; a book which shows that not only do many western leaders know about and accept the war engineering and racial/religious/cultural hate engineering accomplished by frame-ups..they actually believe it is now America's Divine duty to conquer the world ("divine providence" and "manifest destiny") and that the end justifies the means. Which explains to me..finally.."why are american troops in Iraq,Kuwait,S Korea,Saudi Arabia,Cuba etc.etc.etc." It's not because the american people want them to be there; it's because the people like Kerry and Bush and Mead want them to be there.

WHY??? 1.In order to invade and take over territory(either directly or via puppet governments) you have to have a war 2.It takes 2 to make a war;you have to have an enemy. 3.Easiest way to make an enemy is to move next door(or even into the back yard) and have a bunch of weapons pointed at the potential enemy's kids; imo.

But, prove me wrong..read this f___ing book that Mead wrote; and see American history in a brand new light. Paulrevere2005 20:21, 16 July 2005 (UTC)


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Plane crash in Equatorial Guinea kills 55

July 17, 2005

An Equatair plane carrying 55 people crashed on Saturday soon after take-off near the capital of Equatorial Guinea, Malabo. Witnesses told AFP the Antonov aircraft bound for Bata suddenly caught fire and crashed in a forest near Baney, a town some 19km from the capital. "No one survived -- the plane was destroyed," said Alfonso Nsue Mokuy, the Information minister of E Guinea, after rescue teams arrived at the crash site on Sunday.

The old propeller-machine took off at about 10am local time (9am UTC) and disappeared from the radar soon after, officials said.

Flying in Africa is considerably more dangerous than in other parts of the world. While accounting for only 3% of worldwide air traffic, 27% of all fatal airplane crashes occur in Africa according to Dutch-based Aviation Safety Network. This is blamed on the chronic under-investment many airline companies on the continent suffer from.


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Tiger Woods wins British Open

July 17, 2005

Tiger Woods has won the British Open Championship at St Andrews for the second time. Woods had held the lead at the Old Course since the first day of the championship, with opening rounds of 66-67. He then battled tough conditions on the third day for a 71, and hit a closing round of 70; five shots clear of Colin Montgomerie.

The win at St Andrews marks Tiger Woods' 10th major title of his career.

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Wikinews talk:Hotline/Collaboration

Main Greeting
''Thank you for calling the Wikinews Hotline. Press one to report news. To verify reporter credentials, please press two. You may reach us on the web at Wikinews dot org. Wikinews is a non-profit, independent news organization run by the non-profit Wikimedia foundation.''

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Thank you for calling the North American Wikinews hotline. To report news, press '1' now. To review credential verification, press '2' now. If you have any additional comments or questions, please visit our website at wikinews.org. Wikinews is a non-profit, independent news site run by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation. [pause two seconds] Please make your selection now.

Extension 1
To report breaking news, please start the message with the date and time of the phone call, along with your username and location. Recording will start after the tone. When you are finished with your message, please hang up and the message will be sent. [pause two seconds] [tone]

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You have reached the Wikinews credential verification hotline. Please leave your name, contact number and organization you are calling on behalf with a short message including the user at question. Recording will start after the tone. When you are finished, please hang up and the message will be sent. [pause two seconds] [tone]

Wikinews Network addition
I have no problem adding the WNN forwarding to the hotline. However, I think that the current way the greetings are phrased, it's completely unclear what the network is. Especially since the word "network" refers to so many things (Internet? community of people? radio? things to catch fish?). I suggest that you use a description for what it is rather than its name. -- IlyaHaykinson 01:58, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing this up, Ilya. For the purposes of this hotline, I changed all references to the WikiNews Network Hotline to Wikinews Radio Network Hotline.  -- NGerda 03:58, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Hm. I think it's still a bit cryptic. What do you think of calling it "press to speak to a live operator" or something like that? -- IlyaHaykinson 04:18, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * We can add that in, but I think the line will mainly be used for people who have news they want to break live on WNN or Wikinewsies who are joining in on WNN discussions but have no computer. I'll add the live thing in. -- NGerda 04:23, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

Shall we expose caller's phone number to the world?
As I looked on the recent hotline archives, I saw that the archive (logs) show caller's phone number (beside the recording, date, and time).

I am not sure whether this is a good privacy practice (I think it is bad):
 * What if the caller wants anonymity? (a whistleblower, perhaps?)
 * Aren't this thing is a kind of invasion of privacy?
 * Did we notified the caller that caller's phone number will be exposed to the world? (according to the greeting message, no)
 * If the news reports is sensitive, would this put caller's safety at risk? (see paragraph below)
 * What if telemarketers harvested these informations?
 * Do news reporting require us to expose caller's phone number to the world? (Aren't Wikimedia is known for its anonymity?)

Also, because the numbers could be traced back to their address, we are potentially exposing other private informations about the caller as well (e.g., name, address, and other private infos), potentially putting the caller's safety at risk (esp. if the news is sensitive).

So, I think, you should remove caller's phone number from the world-accessible logs (making it only available to a few trusted persons), or, even better, stop getting caller numbers entirety (unless they provided it).

If you decided not to remove caller's phone number, make sure to warn callers (e.g., in the greeting message) that their phone number will be exposed to the world.

61.94.149.207 05:33, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Eh, perhaps. But if users in the US wish to stay anonymous for the meantime, call the DC number and dial *67 in front of the hotline number.  Toll-free calls always will produce a Caller ID record.  --Mrmiscellanious 15:39, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

 * And it's 141 prefix dialling the UK line from a UK phone to withold your number --Pvt Parts 00:07, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Initial Greeting
Perhaps "wikinews" should be spelled out...

Listening
How do I listen to a message from the archive? The attachments seem to be "scrubbed out"

 * good question. beats me. Maybe you should bring that up at the water cooler as this page is kind of dead. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 04:13, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, as a matter of fact, I do know. IlyaHaykinson is managing a list of people who are mailed any voicemail recordings received at this phone number. You may contact him on his talk page, I believe. Or call up the number and leave your request. -  Amgine | talk 04:18, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

WAV format?
I was thinking, that if the wav file really gets sent out, I believe it is
 * 1) A waste of wikimedia brandwith
 * 2) A waste of users' brandwith

Thus it is a possible hog in the system. Why not convert the wav into some lossless (or better still, lossy e.g. mp3) format? This could be done easily.

The person above seems to be doing it on his own machine, so he/she probaby is using fetchmail + script to do the job (though maybe it is simply redirected to the list I dunno, but still), the script then could be easily changed, it probably takes about 1 sec. Only an idea... 195.56.194.129 00:25, 29 December 2005 (UTC) (User Msoos on Wikipedia)

 * I'd suggest that the raw audio (wav/aiff) be kept until the news goes cold (disappears off the main page?), and then use MP3/MP4, Ogg, or whatever has a Wiki-friendly license. ▪ NeoAmsterdam TalkEdits 20:40, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Actually, it's a service (RingCentral) that mails the .wav files, there's nothing I can do about it. We do convert to .ogg when uploading to the Commons. However, interestingly, when converted, the file is about the same size as the wave file. -- IlyaHaykinson 20:51, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Can you get away with using the Speex codec? Nyarlathotep 17:44, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Honestly, I don't think the files are that big. They were under 600K for the two of them together, and that's for a minute and a half of speech. I am sure I could get it down to less than half that, but is that worth it? The commons has a lot of space. -- IlyaHaykinson 02:27, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

UK 0871 call charges
Has anyone not realised that 0871 is the most expensive non-geographical number you can get in the UK without getting a premium rate number?

From a BT line, call charges are 10p/min including VAT. It is actually cheaper for me to call the US number, than to call this 0871 number.

There is a small movement to shame UK companies into dumping their somewhat cheaper, profit-sharing, but still wrong 0870 numbers at www.saynoto0870.com

I wouldn't have paid $50 for an 0871 number, considering that you can get geographical numbers for free if you know where to look, or 0844/0845 numbers which aren't so bad, although considered "premium" rate. Does anyone receive any profit as a result of any profit sharing on this number?

It may be worth looking into alternative codes.

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Disneyland celebrates fiftieth anniversary

July 17, 2005

Today, The Walt Disney Company and thousands of guests celebrated the fiftieth birthday of theme park and American cultural landmark Disneyland.

Park guests, some of whom began queuing for entry around 3:00pm the previous day, packed into the park bringing it to full capacity before lunchtime.

Arnold Schwarzanegger, Julie Andrews, Art Linkletter, Diane Disney-Miller, Disney CEO Michael Eisner and Disney CEO-elect, president and COO Bob Iger all joined in the festivities, with Disney-Miller, the eldest daughter of park founder Walt Disney, reading her father's original dedication at the precise time it was first read.

The park kicked off the official festivities on May 5 with the opening of the Happiest Homecoming on Earth.


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Talk:Israeli PM assassin Yigal Amir on open-ended hunger strike

Maybe this article should be added to Original reporting as no-one else seems to be reporting this. Ploni 19:38, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Original reporting, generally, is something a Wikinews editor observed himself -- this article appears to be sourced, at least as concerns the hunger strike, from Haaretz. --Chiacomo (talk) 19:40, 17 July 2005 (UTC)


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Sir Edward Heath, former British PM, dies at 89

July 17, 2005

Sir Edward Heath, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1970-1974 and leader of the Conservative Party from 1965-1975, has died at his home in Salisbury just a week after his 89th birthday.

Heath implemented the decimalization of the British coinage, led the United Kingdom into the European Economic Community, attempted to end industrial unrest with the Industrial Relations Act, initiated a failed power-sharing government in Northern Ireland, and, in order to cope with a coal strike on top of the 1973 fuel crisis, instituted a three-day work week in the UK.

Today he was eulogised by fellow politicians, including Baroness Margaret Thatcher, who succeeded Heath after he was ousted from the Conservative Party leadership in 1975. She said that with Heath's death Britain had lost a 'political giant'. There was also praise, from Heath's former political secretary Sir Douglas Hurd, for his contribution to the EEC.

'He got us into the European Union,' Sir Hurd said. 'I mean that is a huge step, a very difficult one, which I doubt would have happened without his particular kind of thoroughness and determination. That was an amazing achievement.'

Prime Minister Tony Blair issued a statement describing Sir Heath as 'a man of great integrity and beliefs'.

Heath was offered the post of Ambassador to the United States in 1979, but declined. He continued to represent the constituency of Old Bexley and Sidcup as a backbench MP until his retirement in 2001. He was created a Knight of the Garter in 1992.


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Six people arrested under immigration laws in Leeds, England

July 18, 2005

Six people were arrested in northern England today under immigration laws. The arrests were made in a suburb of Leeds, where two of the suspected bombers of the London terrorist attacks lived.

However the police say they are not linking the arrests with the London bombings. Early reports had suggested that the men had been arrested under anti-terrorism laws as part of the London bombing investigation, a statement on the West Yorkshire Police website said they were working closely with the Metropolitan Police as part of their enquiry, but at the current stage they were not linking the arrests with the recent incidents in London.

All six men remain in police custody and West Yorkshire Police have yet to release more details about the arrests.


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Radio host sacked threatened freedom of speech in Hong Kong

July 16, 2005

A Hong Kong radio host Wong Yuk Man has been sacked last week. Wong hosted a radio program which had helped him become famous by criticizing the government and the pro-Beijing political party. Commercial Radio, a private radio station and Wong’s former employee said Wong was fired because he demanded a 5-days-per-week program which the station could not deliver. However, Wong said he was fired because commercial radio station feared that the government would refuse to renew their license because of his outspoken criticism against the government. The 5 days per week program which Wong hosted had been cancelled and Wong was reallocated to host a weekly program a couple of months ago after Chen King-Hon, another outspoken radio host of commercial radio who was the most popular host at the time, was sacked and his program cancelled.

Wong and Chen, and their former co-hosts had organized 5,000 fans to join their candle night rally in Central, protesting against the alleged collusion between the commercial radio station and the government and urged for freedom of speech in Hong Kong. Donald Tsang, Hong Kong new Chief Executive, who has just replaced the unpopular Tung Chee-Hwa a month ago who had failed to finish his second term due to the alleged health problem, was criticized for restricting the freedom of speech in Hong Kong. Tsang has not yet responded to their criticism.


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London bombers may have been 'duped' into committing suicide

July 17, 2005

The British tabloid The Daily Mirror today suggested that the London bombers may not have planned to commit suicide, while a Scotland Yard spokesman said they have not definitely confirmed that the four men intended to die when they carried out the attacks.

The Daily Mirror claims that the bombers brought return rail tickets to Luton, and that they purchased pay and display car park tickets before boarding the train at Luton Station. The tabloid paper also states how the bombers all had personal items on their person at the time of the attacks, such as wallets, driving licences and bank cards. It also states how they were carrying large rucksacks which could be easily dumped, instead of having the explosives strapped to their bodies, as would be expected of a suicide bomber. It also points to evidence from the bombers' families, where two of the men had pregnant wives.

From this evidence, the paper draws the conclusion that the four men were not told the bombs would detonate straight away, and that the men thought they would be able to escape unscathed. This was probably done to protect their master’s identity, the paper suggested, since there was a high probability the bombers would be caught had they lived.


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Talk:London bombers may have been 'duped' into committing suicide

Or, maybe they didn't do it !
Is there any evidence that these men knew each other? Have there been any interviews with their families about why they might have been carrying back packs? where are the photos of them with these sacks...I think I've seen maybe 1. Paulrevere2005 22:43, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

IS it a Frame Up????
The question must be addressed by anyone who wants to make sure the real killers are brought to justice. The history of frame-ups by government cabals is not a "conspiracy theory"..it's just plain history. e.g. []... that ruse cost the lives of 68,000 American servicemen..then there is [] and []and the granddaddy(until now)[], []. The point,in my opinion, is that the people,the voters, have to actually do some research and think about the story our governments put forth.

This wikipedia report may be an eyeopener for some about the willingness of some American leaders to kill and/or facilitate the killing of their own citizens for foreign policy objectives. []. If this type of person would kill Americans; then who's to say they wouldn't kill ______. Who has benefited the most from this crime????

If anybody other than the government were putting forth these theories about these 4 dead men; it would be labeled a conspiracy theory. So far the evidence against them is unknown or non-existent and their circumstances and profiles don't seem to fit...thus, the newest theory that they were "duped" and "clean skins". Maybe they are just plain INNOCENT ! Where's the evidence?????????

Now finally, and this will require some research in order to confirm or refute (unless one prefers to just resort to name-calling); powerful interests within the USA for the past 2 centuries have had clandestine foreign policies which included and embraced frame-ups and violent attacks upon civilians in order to move public opinion in a particular direction and or to obtain strategic positioning geographically []

For some inexplicable reason I read a book by Walter Russell Mead of the U.S. Council of Foreign Relations [] titled "Special Providence: American Foreign Policy and How it Changed the World"[] a book that showed how much of a mushroom I really am; a book which shows that not only do many western leaders know about and accept the war engineering and racial/religious/cultural hate engineering accomplished by frame-ups..they actually believe it is now America's Divine duty to conquer the world ("divine providence" and "manifest destiny") and that the end justifies the means. Which explains to me..finally.."why are american troops in Iraq,Kuwait,S Korea,Saudi Arabia,Cuba etc.etc.etc." It's not because the american people want them to be there; it's because the people like Kerry and Bush and Mead want them to be there.

WHY??? 1.In order to invade and take over territory(either directly or via puppet governments) you have to have a war 2.It takes 2 to make a war;you have to have an enemy. 3.Easiest way to make an enemy is to move next door(or even into the back yard) and have a bunch of weapons pointed at the potential enemy's kids; imo.

But, prove me wrong..read the book that Mead wrote; and see American history in a brand new light. Paulrevere2005 20:21, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Paulrevere2005. There is another London outside the USA, it is in Englandland, the little island to the north of Franceland. The bombs went off there... Nobody is suggesting that the bombers were innocent, they obviously intended to kill and maim many, and succeeded, but the increasing feeling is that the 'bombers' were 'Patsies', who only discovered that they were 'suicide bombers' for a few milliseconds after they pulled the 'Arming' switch before making their escape and using their return rail tickets to Luton and home. The importance of this is in the future mindset of people who may be tempted to join them in 'paradise'. Impressionable people who may be tempted to die for the greater glory of Al-Quieda may think differently when they realise that the original London bombers were used as low-class 'mugs' and effectively murdered by the same Al-Quieda. Please don't take me as some sort of apologist...if I were in charge, the bombers (had they survived) would have been promptly stood-up against the nearest wall at Paddington Green Police Station and machine-gunned...but we need to wait and see, and avoid wild US-style conspiracy theories for the time being. ChrisR (Nr.London, UK)

First three words
Can we really trust something from a tabloid?

 * It would be good to have other user's input on this. Shoud WN run a story like this, which is mainly speculation from a tabloid newspaper, or should we stick to 'real news' (Reporting just the facts)? Phunt87 (Talk) 06:52, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Normally I'd say no, but the BBC have been discussing this theory heavily today. Normally I always say "don't speculate, stick to the facts", but this is so interesting... let's make an exception - just once - for this. Dan100 (Talk) 14:56, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

I agree with Dan100, also bear in mind that British tabloids are not the 'comics for grown ups' that American friends might associate with the name. As a political prankster myself I have been looking at the news reports and wondering if these patsies even knew they were carrying lethal devices - four smoke bombs would have brought the tube to a halt and made a great, although stupid, prank at the opening of the G8... Moloch65 Australia

Using quotes in headlines
If you are going to use words like 'duped' *in quotes* then the article better immediately cite that quote. This is journalism 101 people.


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Cooper claims he learned of Plame through Rove

July 18, 2005

In a TIME magazine article, reporter claimed he learned that Plame worked with the CIA through a conversation with Karl Rove. However, he denied that Rove directly named Valerie Plame. He also revealed that he discussed Plame with, the deputy Chief of Staff for the U.S. Vice-President Dick Cheney.

The revelation corroborates Rove's testimony to the grand jury, leaked to several news sources, that he learned of Plame's name from Robert Novak and another journalist (Rove testified that he cannot remember which one), and that he did tell Cooper in a later discussion that Joseph Wilson's wife worked for the CIA, though he testified he never mentioned Plame by name.

In a Sunday   broadcast, Cooper said he secured a more specific written waiver from two sources, Rove and Libby, which led him to reverse his earlier refusal to cooperate with the federal grand jury investigation into the CIA disclosure of Plame. This second waiver was signed only hours prior to the contempt of court proceedings that would have put him in jail, the fate of the New York Times reporter who refused to reveal her sources to the same court. He said during the broadcast there were other White House sources as well, but declined during the interview to disclose their names.

The waiver Cooper secured releases him from the secrecy of grand jury proceedings. He wrote a 1st person account of the conversation with Rove that was published Sunday on the TIME Online Edition. In a marketing move made by TIME, they turned the high interest in the story into an online money maker by charging $1.99 for access to the story. 6 print issues of the magazine come with the purchase.


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Wikinews:Meetup/California

I, Eloquence, will be in California (Mountain View, Santa Clara County) from Saturday, July 30 until Tuesday, August 2. I'll have a full day of free time on Sunday, July 31, 2005. Perhaps we can organize a meetup with Wikinewsies from the area?

UPDATE: It turns out that my passport is valid everywhere in the world except in the USA and Costa Rica. I'll have to get a special machine-readable one. I don't know if I can still change my booking at all.--Eloquence 05:09, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

UPDATE 2: OK, got the right type of passport now. Will update this page if the trip does still happen.--Eloquence 23:02, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Interested participants
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 * 1) Eloquence
 * 2) If a few visiting Wikipedians/casual Wikinews users are welcome to stop by, w:User:Gmaxwell and I are in Sunnyvale this week and would show. w:User:Mindspillage 05:52, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Suggested meeting points

 * I'll be staying at Hotel Avante, 860 El Camino Real, Mountain View -- anything less than an hour away from there would be good.--Eloquence 00:58, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 * That's almost walking distance from my house.-- Davodd | Talk 01:49, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 * This sounds great guys, but unfortunately I live over 400 miles away from the proposed meetup. Be sure to tell us how it went, and if any of you travel to Southern California, be sure to let me know! Best of luck to you, NGerda 03:34, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

Suggested meeting times
Sunday would be ideal, but I could also make it on Monday, 20:00 or later.--Eloquence 12:26, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Sunday, 19:00 local time

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Wikinews:Meetup/Michigan

I, RossKoepke, live in Ann Arbor, MI. Perhaps we can organize a meetup with Wikinewsies from the area?

Interested participants

 * 1) RossKoepke
 * 2) MrMiscellanious - possibly.

Suggested meeting points

 * There are many, many good restaurants in Ann Arbor and two movie theaters downtown show independent films which many wikinewsies might enjoy.-- 02:56, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Michigan State vs. Michigan Football game in East Lansing. -- 19:41, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Disneyland celebrates fiftieth anniversary

I literally live 5 minutes away from Disneyland, and I can see the fireworks from my house. I'll see what pics I can get! ;) -- NGerda 03:42, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

Why is this article locked? I had some more information on the topic I wanted to add, but apparently now I can't? I don't understand. -Branddobbe 20:23, 26 September 2005 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Meetup

Wikinewsies sometimes attempt to meet up with one another.

 * /California
 * /Michigan
 * IPC Alpine Ski World Championships from February 20 to 27, 2013
 * /Barcelona on February 28, 2013

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11-year-old California girl charged for throwing stone in defense

July 18, 2005

An 11-year-old girl faces serious assault charges in California after casting a stone at a group of boys who were throwing water balloons at her. In April, Maribel Cuevas was apprehended by, California police and spent five days in a detention center after throwing the object at the group of boys who bombarded her with water balloons as she walked down the sidewalk. A 9-year-old boy was hit with the stone, and suffered a wound to his head requiring medical assistance.

Since then, Cuevas has spent one month under house arrest pending court. Cuevas' lawyer, Richard Beshwate, told the BBC that "They [Fresno police] are treating her like a violent parole offender. It's not a felony, it's an 11-year-old acting like an 11-year-old."

Fresno Police Sergeant Anthony Martinez told reporters: "We responded. We determined a felony assault had taken place and the officers took the actions that were necessary." Cuevas is due back in court next month on felony assault charges.

The girl was placed in juvenile hall during her five-day detention, with only one 30-minute visit from her parents. She was then placed under a 30 day house arrest and required to wear an electronic monitoring bracelet. The house arrest allowed the girl to attend school.

Maribel, who knows very little English, said that the boy initiated the conflict — the boy also admitted as much.


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Common Sense Advisory announces size of worldwide translation and localization market and ranking of top 20 language services companies

July 16, 2005

Common Sense Advisory, Inc., an independent business globalization, internationalization, and localization and translation research and consulting firm, announces the release of its list of the top 20 language service providers (LSPs) and its estimate of the size of worldwide translation and software localization market. The list, which includes Lionbridge (LIOX) and L-3/Titan (LLL) is based on the firm’s Human Delivered Service Company (HDSC) Index, a sophisticated assessment model that evaluates the business fundamentals, market strength, and service offerings of companies that depend on people to produce most of their revenue. The ranking of translation companies reflects recent industry mergers and acquisitions including Lionbridge’s acquisition of Bowne Global Solutions, a unit of Bowne & Co, (BNE).

Common Sense Advisory also estimates the current worldwide translation and localization market at US$ 8.8 billion, reaching a total of US$ 12 billion in 2010. “This figure is particularly relevant at a time where the market seems to be entering a new wave of consolidation,” comments analyst Renato Beninatto.

Explains Common Sense Advisory founder and CEO, Donald A. DePalma, “Many language services companies want to get bigger. Our certification model lets us benchmark one company against comparable language services firms, against offshore providers providing a full range of engineering and localization offerings, and against the service firms that make up our own innovative HDSC Index. This information is valuable to any procurement department – not to mention to any LSP thinking about where it fits in the marketplace relative to its competitors.”

Ranking of Top 20 Translation Companies is now available for free download.


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Talk:11-year-old California girl charged for throwing stone in defense

"in defense"?
Does anyone think that "in defense" could be a stance of POV? Sure it was in retalliation, but to say "defense" might make it sound like it's a little off track for NPOV. --Mrmiscellanious 06:06, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 * An 11-year-old girl faces serious assault charges after casting a stone at a group of boys who were propelling water balloons at her would stand as defense. -- NGerda 06:13, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to revert the article name, but I disagree. The girl has been charged with assulting a person by throwing a stone at them. Whether it was self-defense or not is a matter for the court. - Borofkin 00:37, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

"Propelling"?
I wonder why the word "propelling" was used. Why not "throwing"? Vaxalon 19:29, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Troubling
This incident troubles me deeply. It further demeans the law enforcement profession while making women feel less secure on the street by taking away effective means of defense. I also have to wonder about the ethnicity of the parties involved, including both the water-balloon-throwing boys and the police. -- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 12:52, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree. Imagine a case "woman charged for using pepper spray on attempted rapist" citing this one for precedent.  Please tell me there are details missing in this coverage like the girl is a professional stone thrower and provoked the water balloons or something... otherwise, wtf?
 * It's happening nationwide. I hear stories like this constantly.  It's sickening to know that the police departments of this nation have nothing better to do than to throw kids in the slammer for being kids.  --Mrmiscellanious 15:14, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Look at it from the point of view from the cops though. Arriving at the scene all they know is that the girl caused a serious head wound to a boy in a group that were throwing water balloons at her. I wouldn't be shocked if the parents of the boy were up in arms insisting she be detained which probably led to the decision. And this shouldn't make women feel less secure since it really has very little to do with her sex. Very dumb on the whole though. --138.162.0.45 15:55, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Which boy?
The article says "Maribel [...] said that the boy initiated the conflict — the boy also admitted as much." Is this the same boy that was injured or a different one? Could the text be editted to make this clear? 24.1.63.132 00:41, 19 July 2005 (UTC)


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Governor of Tokyo is sued for insulting French language

July 18, 2005

On July 13, 21 French and Japanese individuals sued Shintaro Ishihara, the governor of Tokyo, for defamation towards people who use the French language. Those 21 were French language teachers and Japanese researchers who taught French. In 2004, Ishihara said that no one can count in the French language. Ishihara was sued for 500,000 yen (approx. US $4,457) for each plaintiff, including Malik Berkane, a French private language school owner in Tokyo. In addition, the plaintiffs demanded that he make an apology.

On October 19, 2004, Ishihara said "French language is a language in which no one can count, therefore it seems to me reasonable that it is disqualified as an international language. People who are tied to the language have taken it upon themselves to oppose [me]. It is all ridiculous" in a speech Ishihara made at the inaugural celebrations of the "Tokyo U-Club". The Tokyo U-club was founded to support the foundation of Tokyo Metropolitan University (Japanese: 首都大学東京, Shuto daigaku Tokyo), which was planned by Ishihara as replacement of universities run by the Tokyo metropolitan government including the same name in English (Japanese: 東京都立大学 Tokyo Toritsu Daigaku).

On August 1, 2003, Ishihara issued his plan to found the new university. His plan had no relation to the restructuring plan of the former Tokyo Metropolitan University which had been on-going for years in cooperation with faculty and Tokyo prefectural government. In his new plan faculties of Humanities, Economics and Law would be drasticially changed and divided into newly organized faculties and departures. As for humanities, literature and language studies would be re-organized into language section and literature section, reduced in number of students, and undergraduate and graduate would be relocated into separate campuses. Quite a few members of the Faculty of Humanities opposed this idea strongly and called for opposition widely. As to that its all faculty issued the opposition on the consensus of all faculty on September 25, 2003. The department of French literature and language was a key group in the movment. Also in 2004, Professor Masato Goda, a teacher of French literature, resigned to express his opposition toward Ishihara's educational policy.

Berkane said "I was very shocked when I heard that. Of course we can count numbers in French, and it is used as an official language in international organisations." "I have been in Japan for 23 years. I am sad that what I have taught in that time is denigrated." Berkane said that he had sent a memorandum to Ishihara in February to ask the governer to apologize but he had as yet received no reply from Ishihara.

On July 15, Ishihara again expressed his opinion that French was formerly a diplomatic lingua franca but due to its complexity it had been falling back. He mentioned that no student had registered in French language lessons at the newly founded Tokyo Metropolitan University. He also stated plaintiffs should have considered seriously if his criticism was appropriate or not.


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Talk:Governor of Tokyo is sued for insulting French language

This article contains original research, based on Japanese documents around TMU problem only available in Japanese (see Japanese Wikinews version). This was reported on July 13, but due to this part, I think it is worthy to try to create this article.

If I recall correctly, Western media focused on Ishihara's "French is declines" "It is too complicated to serve technology development", but didn't notice the part "people who are stuck on the [out-of-date] language oppose my policy" and I presume his accusation to French can't be understood without this part (and why it happend in the inaugulation celemony of an university supporter's club). Anyway, my English is not so good and perhaps very hard to understand. Your merciless copyedit will be very appreciated. --Aphaia 09:34, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I did some copyediting, could you look over it and make sure it all works well? Veritos 20:38, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

I did some recent copyediting, should I have edited the quotes or left them as is? Veritos 20:38, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Oh damn, I renamed the page and now it's nolonger on the front page. I'll clean up some of the english while I'm here. Imroy 04:34, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I tried to cleanup the translated quotes. I don't read any Japanese so I don't know if my changes are closer in meaning to the originals or now. I changed "count numbers" to simply "count" because it's redundant. I also removed the redundant partial quote in the first paragraph and replaced it with a paraphrased equivalent. Imroy 04:50, 19 July 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:Radio host sacked threatened freedom of speech in Hong Kong

Is it just me or does this articles headline make no sense?

Protected edit request
Can someone please fix the visual issue being caused by the space before the template? Cheers,  Daniel  05:40, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * done. many thanks! —Zachary talk 06:16, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:GerardM

Hello, thanks for your vandal-fighting efforts this morning. I'm sorry he wasn't blocked earlier! If it happens again, you can go to #wikimedia-tech and message me directly - that might get my attention... Dan100 (Talk) 11:45, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Peer-to-peer file-sharing user numbers still growing

When including the fact, that copyrighted material is also shared on filesharing networks, then the implied "stealing" should be counterweighted with a counterexample. Candidates are that until today there is no proof that this significantly hurts CD-sales(sales is not the same as "shipping"). Or that filesharing is also used for legal cultural purposes(more and more artists use filesharing to distribute their works for free on filesharing-networks.)


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User talk:192.160.6.253

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Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Poco Loco. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Poco Loco~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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