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Please write with an international audience in mind. Please do not substitute 'and' with '&'. Do not self-publsih. Cheers, --SVTCobra 19:36, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Update: I have done a complete rewrite, but now I must get ready for work, so no further work can be done on this by me. I hope it informs a bit more now. —Calebrw (talk) 18:13, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Please review
This article has been up for review for over 18 hours. --SVTCobra 15:40, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Review 2
I decided to go ahead and publish the article. It's been more then 24 hours since it was asked to be reviewed by another editor. I did the first draft but since my draft, it been basically 100% rewritten. I went though the article and the sources and it meet the guidelines. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 01:15, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Glad it worked out. PS: Thanks for the other editors that stepped in after my rewrite to finish it up. PPS: It's a good idea to use the Peer review template at . —Calebrw (talk) 16:17, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

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editprotected Category:Asif Ali Zardari & Category:Nawaz Sharif. Ali Rana (talk) 06:22, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
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Staffs for US presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama caught making questionable edits to Wikipedia

August 26, 2008

Wikinews has determined through an investigation that the staffs for 2008 United States presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain have been spending some of their time making questionable edits to Wikipedia, the open content online encyclopedia. The investigation also found that Obama's campaign staff seems to be removing questionable edits more often than they are making them. McCain's campaign staff in most cases is removing unflattering information in certain articles. While using the online internet tool Wikiscanner, Wikinews was able to determine the Internet Protocol Address range for the campaign headquarters for Obama, Obama For America and McCain, mccain08hq.com. After determining the ranges, Wikinews found the individual IP addresses used to edit Wikipedia and cross referenced them to current edits as early as August of this year for both campaigns.

As early as August 1, a staff member from McCain's campaign using the IP address 12.47.124.18 edited a Wikipedia article titled: Xenophobia, in which the staff member removed a paragraph of information stating that "North America has had a current of xenophobia against black people, especially in the United States." On November 2, 2007, a staff member using the same address removed information that criticized Liberty University. Staff members also performed other edits on articles that favor McCain which can be considered a conflict of interest.

Obama's campaign staff was also participating in editing. One staff member using the IP address 208.116.214.66 apparently did not like Vanilla Ice saying on May 31, 2007, "Most recently, Winkle was the target of an unfortunate assault when, during a concert in Des Moines, Iowa, an Aryan-looking, bi-curious campaign staffer named Tom Vietor hurled an empty bottle at the performer's skull." The edit was immediately removed by the same IP address. Vietor's last registered salary was in April of 2007. On August 6, 2007 another staff member using a different IP address from Obama's campaign, 208.116.214.67, added "Adam Goldfarb is the biggest liar I know" to the Wikipedia article Liar. Goldfarb is listed as being on the New Jersey staff for Obama's campaign. Later more recent edits from 208.116.214.66 appear to remove vandalism from articles on Wikipedia while the other stopped editing thereafter.

These edits come just days after a Wikipedia editor alleged the McCain campaign lifted background information from Wikipedia for an August 11 public speech about the Georgian-Russian crisis. McCain gave a warning to Russia stating, "Russian President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin must understand the severe, long-term negative consequences that their government’s actions will have for Russia’s relationship with the U.S. and Europe."

This discovery occurred at the beginning of the 2008 Democratic National Convention which began on Monday in Denver, Colorado where Obama is accepting his nomination for the presidential bid.

Wikinews has e-mailed both campaigns, but as of publishing this report, there have been no responses.


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All this is derived from Wikipedia edits. There are no further or additional mainstream media sources available. This is all research Wikinews has done. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:27, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh, how do we know it is staff? Why couldn't be volunteers for the campaigns or even the candidates themselves? Or maybe kids that were forced to go to the campaign hq when their parents were there? --SVTCobra 21:46, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well we can say affiliated with the campaigns, but in all likelyhood, based on trace routes of the IPs, they are definitely using the direct network login. So that seems likely only staff would have that kind of access. I would also be willing to suggest that the reason the edits are lacking in number, is because of the restricted access to staff maybe. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:42, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, I am just saying that it is circumstatial evidence, never mind the implication that somehow these edits were carried out on behalf of the respective campaigns. --SVTCobra 23:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Its possible that they are just mudslinging each other on company time. If only there were evidence to suggest otherwise. Though I do find it interesting the IP address for Obama that made a few nonsense edits, suddenly started to do good edits. I am not suggesting that it was ordered, but more so that another staff member noticed what was starting to happen. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:02, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism?
Some of these seem to be good-faith edits. Further, the edit to Aaron Goulette is still there and has a source. Even if it may have been COI, it seems to have been a valid addition to the article. --SVTCobra 21:46, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Really? You think "malicious" is better or nicer than "vandalism"? --SVTCobra 23:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh...no and yes...but I also don't think vandalism is right either...unless you disagree with me...DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:17, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe 'unfavorable'? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:18, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * How about 'questionable edits' that seems to even cover the Goulette edit (though I see it's no longer in the article). We wouldn't want to be slanderours.--SVTCobra 23:21, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree...was really struggling with that one word. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * "And the Founder said, 'Thou shalt have no false edits before me'." Thunderhead 02:20, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Staffs or Staff?
In this usage, shouldn't it be staff, not "staffs"? --Jcart1534 (talk) 21:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Aren't we talking two separate staffs? I think "staffs" is the proper choice. --SVTCobra 22:00, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The word "staff" when related to employees is plural as is - whether or not it refers to two different groups. "Staffs" can be used for walking sticks. --Jcart1534 (talk) 22:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If McCain has a staff and Obama has a staff and as long as this is not a shared staff, I think it must be "staffs" see staff and the plural thereof. --SVTCobra 22:40, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Try to replace the word "staff" with "group" and I think you can see how it should be plural. Also, "staff" is not the plural of "staffer" ... "staffers" is the plural. --SVTCobra 23:25, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

OR 2
I e-mailed both campaigns. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I did tell both campaigns that we intended to publish the article though did not say when. We can always update if I get a response on the 26th early enough, or just do a new story :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:07, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Problems
These are some things that I personally think are problematic with this article:

A claim is made essentially that Obama's staff is editing Wikipedia appropriately and McCain's is not. This may well be true, but no particular instances of editing are cited, which makes it very difficult to determine whether that claim is in fact true; and, lacking evidence, this also makes Wikinews look biased. I guess the most important thing is that we cite specific edits.

Also, I'm not sure whether it really matters if a few renegade staff members of the campaigns are editing (or vandalizing) arbitrary Wikipedia articles (like the edits to the [w:liar]] article). On the other hand, I think it is important that we do cover the edits these staff members are making to the articles on the candidates because when they do so they are in effect campaigning through Wikipedia. Theshibboleth (talk) 08:53, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


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Study: Herd animals detect Earth's magnetic field

August 26, 2008

Large herd animals may have the ability to detect earth's magnetic field, concluded scientists in Germany in a report published in this week's Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences after performing studies of cattle and deer grazing and sleeping patterns. The animals tended to face north-south oriented toward the earth's magnetic poles. Hynek Burda of the University of Duisburg-Essen in Germany led the team that announced the unconfirmed study. Burda and his team gathered cattle data via analysis of Google Earth images.

The team originally intended to test for possible human magnetic field detection by studying the orientation of sleeping bags in outdoor campers, but it proved difficult to obtain data because humans usually slept under tents. Cattle were easier to observe, and 8,510 head of cattle at 308 locations demonstrated a strong tendency to align body orientation in accordance with the earth's magnetic field. Other possible factors such as wind or sunlight direction did not supply a better explanation for the behavior.

To compare against a second large species, Burda and his team analyzed data on 2,974 deer studied through photography, direct observation, and snow imprints. The deer demonstrated a similar pattern. "I think the really amazing thing is that hunters and herdsmen and farmers didn't notice it," said Burda according to a National Public Radio report.

Other scientists found the results of the study intriguing. Peter August of the University of Rhode Island in Kingston, commented: "I was really amazed at the consistency with which they found north-facing cows and deer. It was really intriguing." No independent study has yet confirmed the Duisburg-Essen team's findings.

This is the first study that indicates magnetic field detection in large mammals. Burda's previous research involves naked mole rats, a small blind mammal species whose behavior indicates an internal magnetic compass. According to a report by Jeremy Hsu at MSNBC, "Previous research has shown that animals such as birds, turtles and salmon migrate using a sense of magnetic direction, and small mammals such as rodents and one bat species also have a magnetic compass."


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Comments:Staffs for US presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama caught making questionable edits to Wikipedia

This goes to show how far political systems in today's world have fallen below the line, but also indicates that Wikipedia is starting to look like a tool for companies, religions and governments to influence peoples favor for matters. --Davis (talk) 01:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Everything is a tool for influence by some group or another. The great thing about Wikipedia isn't that it is influence proof, or vandal proof, but rather that ALL sides can influence and vandalize it equally, ultimately cancelling each other out, for a murky yet unbiased viewpoint. Such is the nature of consensus management and peer review:). And those two things are the very reasons why Wikipedia is, and always will be, superior to things like the Google encyclopedia, or even Britannica. Those can be (and without a doubt are) influenced by one side or the other, but wikipedia can never be locked down. It is in constant flux, and so, as long as Wikipedia remains open to everyone, it will never truly be biased against one side or the other. Gopher65talk 03:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

The latest tool in party warfare
is equivalent to a nerd slapfight. --Kitch (talk) 10:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Incomplete Coverage
Is there any correlation between these edits and the candidates platforms? Or could this possibly be campaign staff members engaging in 'recreational' web activity while at work? Some clarification regarding the reason these changes are 'questionable' and suggestions as to to motive behind the changes might be helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.79.117.145 (talk) 14:50, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

So...
I'm imagining an Obama staff member typing in: "Republicans are tremendous jackasses and you definitely shouldn't vote for one, because then you'd be a jackass. Furthermore, if you vote for McCain this country will go straight to hell, and trust me, you don't want that." It could work for McCain's staff too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.209.8.195 (talk) 17:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

What's the problem?
I have read the changes and i don't find them specially devious, not even related to their campaign. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.39.130.24 (talk) 00:26, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree. I was expecting something a lot better than this. With all the REAL dirty stuff there is to know about McCain and Obama, why do the media only focus on trifling nonsense like this? OH YEAH, that's right....we love you Wikipedia! You're like the weatherman - full of good info, but never to be relied upon! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.151.48 (talk) 01:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

More agreement. These edits aren't particularly interesting, they just seem like standard low-level vandalism (and anti-vandalism). Were those the worst edits that were found? It's not clear to me how the McCain speech plagiarized wikipedia, either (at least, judging by the quote given). -Kotra (talk) 16:47, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Questionable Edits?
Exactly what edits on Wikipedia are NOT questionable? All my edits are questioned all the time, no matter how careful I'm being about citations, sources, and neutrality. So I'm not surprised that their campaign staffs are questioned too -- in fact, it's heartening! Crisses (talk) 02:03, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Removing "North America has had a current of xenophobia against black people, especially in the United States." Questionable edit? Have you ever heard of this little Wikipedia policy and academic standard called verifiability? Taking unsourced blanket statements like the above out of articles is not questionable - it its one of the practices that gives Wikipedia any shred of truth it may have. --85.82.179.226 16:45, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Personal opinion
I think all this focus that we have on Wikipedia and people editing it is misguided. Let's leave it to the Signpost to report on people using or abusing Wikipedia... it just seems so inward-looking to keep doing these stories. -- IlyaHaykinson (talk) 08:49, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hear, hear! --SVTCobra 17:19, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Who did not see this coming?
I do not put this past political staffers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.68.32.6 (talk) 21:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

My question is...
Why are there pictures of the candidates on the left hand side? This behavior from staffers has nothing to do with either candidate, nor should the candidates be of our concern when reading this article. It simply does not affect their politics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.118.232.212 (talk) 21:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Edits not done to clean the image of the politicians
I don't think it's fair to state that the McCain IP was editing to favor him. The section removed from Xenophobia was blatant uncited original research. I'd have removed it, too. They're pretty kiss-up to Lance Terrace, but the only problem (other than blatant OR) could be the removal of mention of a former company, that appears to be defunct based on its link being dead (and also removed by the IP). This one is most definitely wrong, but it's not pro-McCain, just removing criticism of the Christian Right- easily the opinion of every staffer McCain has. By the way, at least one of the McCain staffers using the IP has a name. The Obama HQ edits also look pretty mild- the "Liar" edit added the text, then promptly removed it. Someone was testing. There are some Obama related edits from the 214.66 IP, but they're mild. This really isn't a big deal to report on; not another DOJ or congress staffer group of edits. JeremyMcCracken (talk) 16:14, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Can someone comment on the actual work history of Obama being altered.
Because last I checked, he is a 1st term Senator and was not voted into that position in 1996 as the Wiki article states. Can any of his work history on Wiki be trusted?

"After serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004."

Which is it? Or is this all fact, I am so confused at this point because all I can find is that he was working at now defunct (economically mismanaged) non-profit agencies.

That's funny. Barack Obama is fun to say. It rolls off your tongue. John Mccain's doesn't. Both are still cool, though.

FO SHO! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.169.121 (talk) 23:52, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


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Canadian military exercise NANOOK 2008 travels through uncharted waters

August 27, 2008 Operation NANOOK 2008 was held from August 11 to August 25 by the Canadian Forces for the purpose of conducting mock emergency rescue operations for potential maritime disasters in the northeastern Canadian Arctic waters.

Two Canadian navy ships and two airforce planes, a CC-138 Twin Otter and a CP-140 Aurora, took part in the exercises in the Canada's Arctic. The HMCS Toronto and the Canadian Coast Guard ship Pierre Radisson travelled along the Hudson Strait. The Operation extended to Davis Strait, and Frobisher Bay during the annual NANOOK Operation. There have been 18 such humanitarian operations since 2002. As more Arctic ice melts, the ships sail through uncharted waters. Emergency response times were tested for such potential disasters as oil spills, or rescue operations such as responding to cruise ship emergencies.

General Walter Natynczyk, Canada's chief of Defence staff, the Honourable Peter MacKay, Defence Minister as well as Minister of the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, and  Steven Fletcher, Member of Parliament for Charleswood–St. James–Assiniboia and Parliamentary Secretary for Health, flew to Iqaluit, Nunavut to officially launch the exercise on August 19, 2008 and observe the process.

In addition to the military exercises, Veterans Affairs Canada held a commemorative event onboard the HMCS Toronto to honour the 55th Anniversary of the Cease Fire in Korea, the 65th Anniversary of the Battle of the Atlantic, and the start of the Last 100 days of the First World War. The inaugural ceremonies were held during Community Day activities in the capital city of Iqaluit, followed by the public panel discussion held on Saturday. The community day ceremonies were organized by participants in Operation NANOOK 2008. The public ceremonies received neither Nunavut politicians nor Inuit leaders.


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Well... it's one less fascist in the World, it seems... Who goes first? Fidel or Fascist Thatcher? Make your bets.


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 * Is this about Operation Nanook? Then the first paragraph should not speak of it in the future tense.
 * Pick either Operation Nanook or Operation NANOOK, don't use both.
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http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/08/26/diebold-admits-flaw-in-voting-machine-for-a-decade/1

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Ever since I was very young, my dad has told me about how people have some advantage in sleeping in a North-South direction as opposed to an east-west direction. Supposedly, in Indian tradition, it's good for your health or something like that if you were to sleep as such.

Of course it's good for your health to sleep in a north-south direction. If you wake up every morning facing east or go to sleep facing west, you're bound to go blind, at least if you don't have shades on your windows. 68.189.148.241 22:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Seriously.. ? A big long animal wouldn't position itself so that the sun warms his body nicely in the morning or evening.. no... It's magnetic because they like the magic voodoo vibes the gypsies bestow on any creature who aligns themselves properly. Scientists determined that sunlight did not provide a better explination? Are these scientists real or magic?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.243.129.181 (talk) 20:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

 * RTA: "Other possible factors such as wind or sunlight direction did not supply a better explanation for the behavior." -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 21:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I like this thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nurlak (talk • contribs) 12:21, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

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World Bank says more people are poor, but fewer are in extreme poverty

August 27, 2008 According to a new study released by the World Bank, more people than thought are considered to be poor in the developing world but the percentage of people in extreme poverty have decreased. The study finds that as of 2005, there are 1.4 billion people who are living for less than US$1.25 per day. This is down from 1.9 billion in 1981, which equals half of the population in the developing world. However, the new numbers have vastly increased from previous estimates. According to last estimate based on data from 1994, it was believed that there were only 985 million people in poverty in 2004 and 1.5 billion in 1981.

According to one of the report's authors Martin Ravallion, Director of the Development Research Group at the World Bank, "The new estimates are a major advance in poverty measurement because they are based on far better price data for assuring that the poverty lines are comparable across countries. Data from household surveys have also improved in terms of country coverage, data access, and timeliness."

The report concludes that the developing world is on track to meet its goal to cut poverty in half by 2015. However, drops in poverty will not be consistent worldwide.

East Asia has seen the biggest drop in poverty since 1981 when 80% of the population was poor. Currently, it's just 18%. South Asia has seen a drop of 20%, however the number of people in poverty has stayed the same due to an increase in population.

In India, for example, poverty at $1.25 a day increased from 420 million people in 1981 to 455 million in 2005. However, due to population growth, the poverty rate as a share of the total population dropped to 42% in 2005 from 60% in 1981.

The only region that has not seen any significant decrease in poverty is Sub-Saharan Africa where the percentage of people in poverty has stayed the same at 50%. Due to population increase, the number of people have nearly doubled to 380 million.

"The new data confirm that the world will likely reach the first Millennium Development Goal of halving the 1990 level of poverty by 2015 and that poverty has fallen by about one percentage point a year since 1981," said Justin Lin, Chief Economist and Senior Vice President, Development Economics at the World Bank.

"However, the sobering news that poverty is more pervasive than we thought means we must redouble our efforts, especially in Sub-Saharan Africa," added Lin.

The report, The Developing World Is Poorer Than We Thought, But No Less Successful in the Fight against Poverty by Shaohua Chen and Martin Ravallion, is based on data from 2005.


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Please don't create articles specifically for the purpose of redirecting them to your story. There is no practical reason to do that, and it just clogs up wikinews. Gopher65talk 20:06, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe this guy's userpage should explain away some of that;). Wikinews has different rules about many things — even key issues like Original Research. OR is antithetical to Wikipedia's core mission, but it is the foundation that Wikinews is built upon (or it will be, when we have enough users to do a significant amount of OR, and dealt with a few other issues). Wikinews ≠ Wikipedia. Don't worry if it takes you a while to adjust; everyone who comes here from Wikipedia has growing pains. Gopher65talk 21:21, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

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Israeli-American activist arrested for entering Gaza Strip

August 27, 2008 An Israeli-American was arrested on Tuesday and later released in Gaza City after arriving on a boat that was carrying pro-Palestinian activists. Professor Jeff Halper was going to Israel along with 40 other activists including the sister-in-law of Tony Blair, former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Lauren Booth, when he was arrested at a border crossing checkpoint.

According to police, Halper was arrested on his way home, re-entering Israel at the Erez border checkpoint. He is said to have been in violation of a law which forbids Israelis from traveling to Gaza due to a blockade enacted in 2007 when Hamas won elections and took control of the Gaza Strip.

"He [was] questioned at the police station in Sderot for entering the Gaza Strip in defiance of a military decree banning Israeli citizens from doing so," stated Micky Rosenfeld, a spokesman for the Israeli Police. Halper was later "conditionally" released, and police will decide if he should be rearrested and prosecuted further at the end of their investigation.

Authorities said they gave Halper and the rest of the activists a "one-time" pass to enter Gaza to avoid provoking them. He had been in Gaza for at least three days before being arrested.

Halper and Booth both belong to an activist group of international participants who were attempting to challenge the blockade and enter Israel, and police say their defiance "constitutes the legitimization of a terrorist organization."

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I may be wrong but I feel that this article doesn't meet Neutral point of view for example 86.46.65.233 07:23, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Halper was going to Israel along with 40 other activists -- the activists not going to Israel - the activists were visiting Gaza. Gaza is not part of Israel, it is part of palestine.
 * 2) No Background Human rights coalition: Gaza at worst since 1967
 * 3) a blockade enacted in 2007 by the international community -- a blockade by Israel not the international community. As far as I know the international community i.e. U.N and NGO's has been trying to get past the siege to deliver supplys
 * 4) Authorities said they gave Halper and the rest of the activists a "one-time" pass to enter Gaza to avoid provoking them. -- suggests they had right to stop a boat from entering Gaza and what could they be provoked to do.


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I do not know why you keep putting this up for review. It is clearly not ready. I have given you reasons why, and even offered help on the collaboration page. You are only setting it up for failure at peer review. However, I do want to encourage you to continue to contribute to Wikinews. Cheers, --SVTCobra 00:56, 27 August 2008 (UTC) Sorry I didn't see you had changed this, this is my first article, thanks for the heads up--PATCARDPATCARD 01:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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Wikipedia still amazes me...I didn't think this guy would have an article there. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:04, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


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No assassination plot against US presidential candidate Barack Obama

August 27, 2008 Police in Denver, Colorado located in the United States say that three men who were arrested on August 25 for possessing drugs and weapons were not involved in a plot to assassinate US presidential candidate Barack Obama at the Democratic National Convention that night.

"[There was] insufficient evidence of any kind of plot or threat [against Obama]", stated Troy Eid, Colorado's district attorney who also said the men were making "racist rants" while high on methamphetamines.

"The alleged threats, hateful and bigoted though they were, involved a group of… methamphetamine abusers, all of whom were impaired at the time. The evidence involving the alleged threats does not warrant federal charges now," said Eid. Authorities in Colorado will continue to investigate the individuals. "The law recognizes a difference between a true threat - one that can be carried out - and the reported racist rantings of a drug addict," added Eid.

The alleged threat began when an unnamed female who was with the men stated to authorities that they were shouting racists words and remarks about Obama. At least two of the men are claimed to have ties to white supremacists.

The three men are identified as Tharin Gartrell, 28, Nathan Johnson, 32, and Shawn Robert Adolf, 33. Gartrell was the first suspect arrested. Police found him driving a rental truck while weaving around the road on August 25 and with him rifles,ammunition, drugs, disguises, 2-way radios, a bullet proof vest and identification badges for three unnamed people. Johnson was arrested a short time later and Adolf was arrested trying to escape from police by jumping out of a hotel window on the sixth floor. He broke his ankle and was taken to a local hospital for treatment.

Gartrell is facing charges of possessing drugs. Adolf and Johnson are charged with illegally possessing firearms and possessing methamphetamines. Johnson was also additionally charged with possessing body armor illegally.


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Canada's seafloor mapping mission is underway as of Thursday, August 21, 2008 ending October 2 if the waters remain ice-free. Besides the $C34 committed to Verhoef's Polar Continental Shelf Project, Stephen Harper announced August 26, 2008 that the Canadian government is committed to spending $100 million to map northern oil, gas and mineral resources. 2009 will be the third season of research. Future expeditions are planned for the Lomonosov and Alpha ridges to show bedrock connections between the seabed and Ellesmere Island.

Chinese, German, U.S. Japanese icebreakers are all gathering geological data and conducting climate research. Dr. Jacob Verhoef, Director Bedford Institute of Oceanography, is heading Canada's project aboard Coast Guard icebreaker Louis S. St. Laurent. The U.S. Coast Guard cutter Healy offered to break ice for the Coast Guard icebreaker Louis S. St. Laurent. The Xuelong or Snow Dragon is the icebreaker from China which entered the Canada Basin near Beaufort Sea. Polarstern, the German researcher's icebreaker will meet with Canadian scientists in the Beaufort Sea. Besides strengthening Canada's sovereignty, Prime Minister Stephen Harper supports Five nations attended the Greenland summit last May. The Illulissat Declaration was signed by Danish, Canadian, Russian, Norwegian and American government officials. The polar treaty de-escalated tensions as all nations agreed to follow United Nations regulations in dividing sea-floor territory. All nations agreed also to co-operate on developing environmental regulations, security, scientific research, search and rescue, transportation and tourism issues.

The Canadian and Danish governments have collaborated in a program named LORITA-1 (Lomonosov Ridge Test of Appurtenance) to conduct seabed surveys of the Lomonosov Ridge. Under this collaboration, disputes have been set aside regarding ownership of Hans Island, and a section of the Lincoln Sea between the Queen Charlotte Islands and Greenland. Russia as well as Canada and Denmark are preparing reports compliant to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) regarding sea floor mapping. This endeavour will show which undersea territories are linked geologically with either its mainland or Arctic Islands. The Canadian research will cover the Beaufort Sea of the western Arctic, the Lomonosov Ridge of the eastern Arctic and the Alpha Ridge of the central Arctic. The research entitled Crustal Structure from the Lincoln Sea to the Lomonsov Ridge, Arctic Ocean, was presented at the The 33rd International Geological Congress, Oslo 2008 (August 5-14, 2008). The findings are also submitted to the 2009 Journal of Geophysical Research according to Dr. Jacob Verhoef, Geoscientist.

The United States and Canadian governments have also collaborated on defining the Arctic ocean continental shelf. Canada uses specialized seismic systems to measure the thickness of seabed sediments, and the United States uses a High resolution bathymetric system that shows the contours of the ocean floor. United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS)traditionally holds that countries have ownership of a 370 kilometer coastal zone for economic development unless proof can be shown that the seabed area is a coastal extension to the country. Canada has until 2013 to offer their submission to UNCLOS. Russia ratified UNCLOS in 1997, subsequently submitting a land claim in respect to the Lomonosov ridge to the United Nations in 2001 which was rejected as not substantiated with scientific evidence. The United States has not ratified UNCLOS at all. The triangular area, 12,000 km square, west of the Canadian arctic islands, and north of Alaska is not to be studied during this mapping expedition.

Greg Poelzer, University of Saskatchewan professor with expertise on circumpolar affairs and Northern politics, and Peter MacKay, Defence Minister and Minister of the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, will board the HMCS Toronto near Iqaluit Friday August 22 and Saturday August 23. Operation NANNY a Canadian Armed Forces venture aboard HMCS Toronto between Tuesday, August 19, 2008 and Tuesday, August 26, 2008. Operation NANOOK 2008 is an operation to prepare for disaster relief which overlapped Operation NANNY. UArctic established in June of 2001 is a network of 110 Canadian, Danish, Finnish, Icelandic, Norwegian, Russian, Swedish and American universities and colleges. The European Union, Japan Norway, Russia, Denmark, and the United States have increased interest in the Arctic. Canada believes the Northwest Passage is a territorial waterway of Canada, yet others feel that the Northwest Passage is an international strait.

Ice sheets 20 kilometers square broke off the shelf on Ward Hunt Island near Ellesmere Island at the end of July 2008 due to strong south winds. The Ward Hunt Shelf measures about 401 kilometers square. The ice shelf at Ellesmere Island was as large as 9,065 kilometers square, and is now broken into 5 smaller shelves which combined are almost 1,036 kilometers square. The ice break up is resulting in more navigable waters and more transit activity. In 2007, the ice cover was 14M kilometers square shrinking to just over 4M kilometers square. This spring the 14M kilometers square of ice shrank to 6.5M kilometers square. 1M kilometers square of ice shrank between August 1 and August 10, 2008 due to windy stormy conditions.

Enhancements of the maritime infrastructure, inspection stations, and monitoring of shipping and sea traffic vehicles in the Northern Sea Route are underway. The Northern Canada Traffic Regulation System, (NORDREG) is run by Marine Communications and Traffic Services (MCTS). The Canadian Coast Guard (CCG) has the Environment Canada's Atmospheric Environment Service (AES) offers the Canadian Ice Service. Ship related impacts, safety of ships, life and property and the marine environment is under the mandate of Marine Safety, the National Authority. The Arctic Ice Regime Shipping System works in conjunction with the NORDREG system. The Canadian Arctic Night and Day Imaging Surveillance System, CANDISS, has been established to secure the Northwest passageway between Devon Island and Baffin Island. RADARSAT-2 is a new Canadian satellite system which provides polarimetric data which provides information regarding ice edge detection, glacier termini, ice types, as well as leads and open water or ship navigation and safety. Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced a new deep water naval port to be constructed at Nanisivik, open the military training center located at Resolute Bay, purchase a dozen transport planes, 8 Arctic patrol vessels and another icebreaker, upgrade the Aurora surveillance planes, and test surface and underwater sensors. The crew of the Franklin Expedition of 1845 perished after their ships became icebound in Victoria Strait near King William Island in the Canadian Arctic.

Commander General Victor Renuart, head of U.S. Northern Command and NORAD, the Canadian U.S. North American Aerospace Defense Command is aware of the increased transit in the Arctic waters. The U.S. white house is preparing an Arctic policy. Prime Minister Stephen Harper proposed in 2007 to construct an Arctic combat training centre in the Northwest Passage area. Currently new funding is in place for the Iqaluit| Canadian Rangers junior members. The Canadian Rangers is a military reservist unit which monitors Arctic outposts for the Canadian government. In the early morning hours of July 31, 2008, an explosion was reported by an Inuit member of the Canadian Rangers. The explosion occurred near the Borden Peninusla on the northwest coast of Baffin island. Department of National Defence DND's Joint Task Force Northern headquarters knew of no activity in the area other than an Inuit hunting party. The RCMP's Operation Nunakput sent over Aurora aircraft. Parks Canada sent out a boat from Sirmilik National Park located on Bylot Island.

Parks Canada has launched a project to search for the lost ships from the Franklin expedition. Robert Grenier Parks Canada underwater archeologist, and Louie Kamoukak, Inuit historian are on a six week search aboard the Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker Sir Wilred Laurier. Grenier has previously discovered at Red Bay, Labrador two 16th century whaling ships. This project will cover between 400 to 800 kilometers square encompassing the Victoria Strait southern edge, Queen Maud Gulf eastern edge, and around the O'Reilly and Kirkwall Islands near the Nunavut northern coastline.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper is spending a three days between August 26, to August 29, 2008, visiting Inuvik, N.W.T., Tuktoyaktuk, N.W.T., and Dawson City, Yukon. Floyd Roland, Premier in the North West Territories has requested a Mackenzie Valley Highway providing a transportation corridor linking the Northern territories with the provinces of Canada. The Prime Minister is expected to make two announcements.

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Talk:No assassination plot against US presidential candidate Barack Obama

Misleading Title
Can you change the title to something more, well concrete? Saying "No assassination plot against US presidential candidate Barack Obama" sounds as if there is NONE. I think something like: "Men arrested in Denver not involved in assassination plot". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.6.83 (talk) 12:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Depends on your definition of plot
A plot is a set of people with a desire who purposefully go about getting the means to carry out that desire. It seems clear that these men had the desire and some of the means (firearms), while they lacked other necessary means (place, etc.) and perhaps also the ability to purposefully acquire them (due to their drug-addled state).

I think the best fix is to give a source in the headline, thus avoiding taking a stand on the definition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.106.170.103 (talk) 20:36, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


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Oldest Catholic boarding school in Australia at centre of child-sex claims

August 27, 2008

New South Wales Police have broadened investigations into Australia's oldest Catholic boarding school, St Stanislaus College in Bathurst, New South Wales, following claims that at least 13 men were sexually abused while children at the school in the 1970s and 1980s. The claims have surfaced following police being alerted in August last year.

Police have appealed for victims to come forward, but acknowledged it may be difficult for some. "I would imagine it would be very hard for anyone subject to these sort of things to come forward," Detective Superintendent Michael Goodwin said. "All I can say is that NSW police force will be providing every form of support we possibly can to make the process for them as trouble-free as possible." Superintendent Goodwin reassured the community that the allegations date back two decades and there is "absolutely no suggestion whatsoever that the college involved is/has been looking to anything in the current day."

"The college involved has been cooperating with the police completely with this inquiry," Goodwin added.

The police would not release how many suspects were being investigated but said their inquiries had not led them to any other locations where former staff may have been employed. Superintendent Goodwin said Police were exploring all lines of enquiry and that "no loose ends [are] being let go at this stage."

The school's principal, John Edwards, said the police had served him with a search warrant last month which listed the names of three former staff members.

"There were three former staff member who were listed on the search warrant that was served on me in early July, and we facilitated the gathering of material for police," Mr Edwards told Fairfax Radio Network.

Mr Edwards called for the matter to be transparent and described the complaints as "gravely concerning" and he hopes they are properly dealt with by the courts. "It is absolutely a requirement for this matter to be open, for this matter to be addressed and this matter to be resolved," he said. "This school is very concerned to ensure that children are treated well and that their interests are protected."

A former priest, Brian Joseph Spillane, aged 65 was arrested over the case in May. He faced Bathurst Local Court in July, facing 33 separate charges including six counts of sexual intercourse with pupils aged 10 and 18.

Spillane's lawyer, Greg Walsh, says media reports alerted him to the new claims.

"I don't know anything about eight alleged other victims, I've not been served with any witness statements so I really can't comment about it," said Walsh.

One former student described the alleged abuse as "an orgy", claiming that boys were herded into a prayer room by a priest chanting "hypnotic" spells in tongues. It is alleged that boys were subject to sexual abuse or forced to assault each other once in the prayer room.

A former border told The Daily Telegraph that priests "got a group between eight and 12 of us together and they'd just start chanting and I would wake up during these sessions and see what was going on."

The allegations came to light after one of the alleged victims made a visit to Bathurst last year to hand out fliers documenting the abuse and providing a link to his website address. The school called in police, who the victim claims contacted him and asked him to make a complaint.


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Australian Police alerted to child-sex claims at St Stanislaus in 1997

August 27, 2008

Following the escalation of investigations into St Stanislaus College in Bathurst, New South Wales, Australia, Wikinews has obtained a police statement from an alleged victim made in 1997 against priest Brian Joseph Spillane. Spillane is facing 33 charges relating to the allegations.

It had been believed that Bathurst detectives set up Strike Force Header after receiving a complaint from a former St Stanislaus student last year. The complainant came to the police's attention after he came to Bathurst handing out fliers documenting alleged abuses at the school and providing a link to a website he had set up. St Stanislaus College contacted police and asked them to investigate. Police contacted the alleged victim and asked him if he would like to make a complaint.

In the statement obtained by Wikinews, the same man complained to detectives at Kalgoorlie, Western Australia about abuse by Spillane at St Stanislaus. In the graphic statement, he describes abuse which began following a poker game with the priest at the centre of the allegations. The statement describes further abuses spanning several months.

Bathurst Police refused to comment when contacted about the statement today.


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Original Reporting
This article is based on a statement I have received from the victim at the centre of the allegations. I can not post a copy of the statement for legal reasons nor name the victim due to a court suppression order - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 10:38, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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It should be made known that we have this before anyone else. WE ROCK - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 10:38, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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Please mind that we have readers world-wide and "St Stanislaus" in the title may be meaningless to many. How about "Australian police alerted to child-sex claims in 1997" instead ? Lysy (talk) 16:40, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
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 * I have changed it, I was thinking that this and the other article follow each other (even though this one contains OR the other doesn't) - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 22:14, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Beijing 2008 Olympics comes to a close

As a chinese,I'm very pride that the chinese people had oranised a very successful Game. China is great, we are a very great pelople. You please get up. let the world know about us, we will be more opened after the game.please united and we will make a better future.

With a somewhat odd tone set to the Olympics with it being the first Modern Olympics held in China, many were wondering what welcoming they would receive. The Chinese Government spent an estimated Twenty Two Billion on hosting the Olympics in Beijing; this is a considerably large amount when you notice that Australia spent Three Billion on their acclaimed Olympics in Sydney. It is even more startling to see that London plans on spending Nine Billion on the Olympics in 2012. So is this the most astonishing Olympics we have ever seen? With a poor attendance at the lauded venues and suspicious conspiracies regarding a number of the athletes ages this year overall we can summarise that all we saw was an anti-climatic explosion.


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Comments:World Bank says more people are poor, but fewer are in extreme poverty

The reduction of poverty in (what was known as) the Third World, has nothing to do with the World Bank or the IMF. Those institutions were directly responsible for the worst economic catastrophes since World War II. I remember what was South America when dominated by the fascist scum. In Argentina alone, 450.000 people starved, due to "economic policies" that only served to push a certain "ideology". If the "World Bank" and the "IMF" really want to contribute to the Human Evolution, they need to let go of the obsession around "The Market", and start looking at the World with realistic eyes. At the present, the "World Bank" and the "IMF" are bankrupt, morally and economically. For example, if everyone had a raise like mr. Wolfowitz's girlfriend, there would be no poverty anymore.
 * While I most certainly agree that organizations like the World Bank are corrupt, it is specifically because they DON'T value the free market, and instead the organization, like any of considerable size, exists primarily or even exclusively to serve the personal interests of those in charge. Your last statement, unfortunately, is common naivete:  if everyone were suddenly just given a million dollars (or "a raise" of any arbitrary size), then each of those dollars, as well as every other dollar that existed beforehand, is worth much less than it was before, because there are more dollars in circulation but the same amount of goods and services for which to exchange them, and so the cost for everything would go up until everyone had about as much buying power as they did in the first place.  On the other hand, if you suggest that no new money should be created, but it should simply be taken from those who have it and given to those who don't, I'd suggest you instead give to charity from your own pocket rather than steal it from others (raising taxes on those better-off than you is simply stealing by proxy; you'd just be having someone else, in this case a government, do your dirty work for you).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.238.26 (talk) 21:45, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Silly Numbers
A dollar and a quarter in 1981 was a very different critter than a dollar and a quarter in 2005. Just assuming an average of 3% per year inflation, it would take $2.54 in 2005 to purchase what you could get for a buck and a quarter in 1981. If that is taken into count, then there are almost certainly far more critically poor people in the world now than there were in 1981. Hence, disparity is increasing not decreasing.

Ken —212.35.92.108 06:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I was suspicious of that myself. The way this article is written, it would certainly seem the figures they're presenting are not adjusted for inflation.  If that's the case, then you're absolutely right, and the World Bank is being dishonest.  Imagine that!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.238.26 (talk) 12:29, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

In 2005,i made a public presentation of the paper whose title and abstract appear below; based on some very impressive data generated by former world bank chief economist, F Bourguignon and his co-worker C Morrisson,“The Size Distribution of Income Among World Citizens: 1820-1990”. that suggested the current global economic/financial crisis. Only a new 'economics paradigm'can abolish poverty from the world. go through the abstract and note some of the conclusions.

Chidi G Osuagwu chigidos@yahoo.com

MECHANICS OF WORLD INCOMES ORDER AND INEVITABILITY OF					       DEBT-BURDENED PEOPLE ABSTRACT Long-term data on worldwide quintile income size distribution was investigated and shown to be, mathematically, systematic. The averaging of group shares over more than a century showed the relative shares to approximate 3:5:9:17: -: 65 … 2n* + 1. Over time, the percent share of income for the bottom quintiles decreased while the share of the top quintile increased. This paper points out that the dynamics of marginal utility laws, applied to unregulated market economic system, would yield the size distribution pattern observed. The mechanics of this system would, systematically, transfer income from the poor to the rich over time. Therefore, poverty and debt enburdenement of some people are inevitable in the extant world economic system. Unregulated market economic system is therefore inconsistent with sustainable human society. The paper, finally, shows that income size distribution, on average, follows a natural law based on the Fibonacci sequence and associated golden ratio, (1.62). From this fact it was deduced that the most inequitable income size distribution allowed by nature for quintile groups is one in which the common ratio of the incomes of adjacent groups is 1.62 or the Fibonacci sequence 6:10:16:26:42 … SQn = 6(n-1) %. Nature requires that in no quintile size distribution should the bottom group get less than 6% of the total income or the top quintile more than 42%. This is the ‘Golden-edge Size Distribution’ on the one side of which integration and on the other side of which social disintegration sets in. The general law SQn* = m (n*-1) based on the golden ratio governs size income distribution. SQn* is the relative share of the nth quintile group, n*, in the nth ordinal position, subject to possible discrete positional jump.

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Kevin Duckworth, former NBA All-star and Trail Blazer dies age 44

August 27, 2008 Former American National Basketball Association (NBA) basketball star Kevin Duckworth has died at age 44. The former Portland Trail Blazers center died on Monday of an apparent heart attack in his hotel room at Gleneden Beach, Oregon. He was in town for part of a free childrens basketball clinic being run by the Trail Blazers. His death was confirmed by the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office.

Duckworth commenced his career with the San Antonio Spurs when he was selected in the second round of the 1986 NBA Draft. He was traded after one season for fellow draft pick Walter Berry. It was during his time with the Trail Blazers that he had his most successful season. During 1988 he shot 77.0% from the free throw line and played well all-round. This performance earned him the NBA Most Improved Player Award.

The following year he was selected as an All-Star. The following seasons were also classed as a success for both Duckworth and the Trail Blazers. They made it to the 1990 NBA Finals and in 1991 he was selected as an All-Star for a second time.

He was traded to the Washington Bullets for two seasons and then later for the Milwaukee Bucks and the Los Angeles Clippers for one seasons each. After the 1996-97 season with the Clippers he retired.


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Comments:Canadian military exercise NANOOK 2008 travels through uncharted waters

OH NO, THOSE CANOOKS ARE PLANNING FOR /WOR/! Fephisto (talk) 12:55, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


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WWE wrestler John Cena undergoes neck surgery after injury

August 28, 2008 The Stamford, Connecticut-based company World Wrestling Entertainment issued a press release last night, stating that wrestling performer John Cena is expected to recover from his injuries, after a surgery.

WWE Medical Program head, described in a press release as a "renowned neurosurgeon" Dr. Joseph Maroon performed the operation on Cena, after he sustained injuries during the SummerSlam match on Sunday August 24. He suffered a herniated disc in his neck, in a lost match against a wrestler named Batista.

Just hours after surgery, he visited the locker room of the SmackDown/ECW taping, commenting to the WWE website that: "I feel great. Dr. Maroon is fantastic. He explained every possible procedure he could and could not perform, and the potential risks of all of them. I explained to Dr. Maroon not only my immediate goals, but also my long-term goals. He took them all into consideration and recommended the most commonplace procedure with the least amount of side effects."

While the option of fusion surgery was chosen previously by other WWE wrestlers (Edge, Steve Austin, Chris Benoit), Maroon removed a fragment from Cena's spinal cord, which had been blocking a nerve.

The operation lasted 90 minutes; recovery is expected to take three months, instead of a previously suggested 12-14 months.

In his WWE career, Cena is a three-time WWE Champion, a three-time United States Champion, and a two-time World Tag Team Champion. He also won the 2008 Royal Rumble. Before being promoted to the main WWE roster, Cena trained in and wrestled for Ultimate Pro Wrestling and Ohio Valley Wrestling, holding the top titles of both promotions.


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Lacks some of the big Ws ... when and where! When and where was the surgery performed, when and where was the injury sustained? Why is this the ® symbol used in the article? --SVTCobra 15:27, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure where, but is was the WWE medical program. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:00, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

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73M-year-old fossilized fish found in Canada

August 28, 2008 Scientists of the United Kingdom-based Royal Society released a paper August 1, 2008 which studied Cretaceous era fossil finds found at the northern area of Devon Island in the 1980s. Nunavutospongia irregulara is the name of the new species of sponge found, released by Proceedings B the Royal Society's biological research journal.

Thick bones and armour-like scales have been found that are believed to belong to a new species of fish which grew up to two meters long. Thousands of fossilized feces - termed coprolites - both small and as large as an arm have been found. Coral reef fossils, conifer wood debris, fossil wood chunks and thousands of plankton and microbes have been found both at Devon Island and Beechy Island. Beechy Island is connected to Devon Island during times of low tide.

Two areas on Devon Island about 30 kilometres apart are providing Cretaceous fossil finds, and each is kilometres in length. These areas are khaki-coloured valley greensands rich in fossil beds, which provide a peek at life 73 million years ago. During the Cretaceous Devon Island was located in a position with a warmer climate, large trees grew north of Baffin Island, and plesiosaurs, ichthyodectid fish, and sharks roamed the waters of the Arctic. Devon Island was submerged under warm water in the Cretaceous period, when the island was situated hundreds of kilometres south of its current location due to continental drift.

At the upper Kanguk Formation, the fossil finds represent offshore and near-shore sedimentary deposits on an ocean floor. The warmer temperate waters supported benthic invertebrates (organisms such as larva that live on the bottom of a water body) and large predatory vertebrates. Whereas life is currently supported by nutrients from the sea ice, Cretaceous sea life was supported by terrigenous resources from forested landscapes.

The eight-member team from the Royal Society consists of Canadian, United States and Polish researchers. The fossil specimens are held at the Canadian Museum of Nature in Ottawa on behalf of the Nunavut territorial government.


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Australian school at center of child-sex allegations pulls newsletter mentioning 'Penthouse' as recommended reading

August 28, 2008

The school at the center of child-sex allegations, St Stanislaus College in Bathurst, New South Wales, Australia has removed a newsletter recommending Penthouse magazine as recommended reading for teenage boys. On the school's website, the newsletter has been replaced by a copy which omits these comments.

In the same newsletter, principal of the college John Edwards informs the school community that The Daily Telegraph had contacted him regarding sex abuse allegations.

The controversial comments were made by Ian MacDougall, a HSIE teacher. When asked what book he recommends every teenage boy read, he responded "Besides 'PeCENSOREDse' — any book that stirs the imagination/conscious."

A parent who does not wish to be named told Wikinews she took the comment to mean Penthouse magazine. She said the newsletter was given to her sons on Friday and when she read it she raised concerns with the school. The newsletter was changed on the school's website after concerns were raised. The parent said she was considering enrolling her sons at a public school following the incident.

"It makes you wonder how much truth there is to the allegations when you have a teacher recommending students read an adult magazine," the parent said.

The school's principal, John Edwards, told Wikinews that the newsletter was changed after Mr. MacDougall's answer was "widely interpreted to mean a girl magazine." Mr Edwards said he deemed the original comments "unacceptable."

When questioned by Wikinews on whether or not the article was recommending Penthouse, he said that the question was completed before the staff member went on long-service leave. The principal said the original version of the questions listed 'peCENSORED' and later had 'se' added to the end as "humour." He said after feedback from the comments, the version was replaced on the schools website.


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Original Reporting
This report is based on a chat to a parent of a student at the school, looking at metadata of the published Adobe PDF documents and conducting a telephone interview with the school's principal - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 03:48, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Telephone Interview
I conducted a telephone interview with Mr John Edwards, Principal of St Stanislaus College today at 11:25AM. Consent was not given by the school receptionist for the call to be recorded.

The principal was asked why the original newsletter dated 22/8/2008 was removed from the school's website and replaced with another version. Mr Edwards asked if I was referring to "the removal of a paragraph mentioning a girl magazine", I responded in the affirmative.

Mr Edwards said he had deemed that section of the newsletter "unacceptable as it was widely interpreted as a girl magazine". When I asked whether or not the authors intention was to mention penthouse, Mr Edward replied "the question was completed prior to that staff member going on long service leave, it has peCENSORED listed and se was added to the end as humour, it has since been found to be unacceptable" - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 01:36, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

John Edwards
It is quite obvious, but I feel that this "John Edwards" should be clearly distinguished apart from the U.S. politician-- especially considering his recent sex scandal. -- Poe Joe (Talk) 05:41, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you consider The schools principal John Edwards told Wikinews that the newsletter was changed after Mr. MacDougall's answer was "widely interpreted to mean a girl magazine". Mr Edwards said he deemed the original comments "unacceptable". to not be clear enough? I would assume (and may be incorrect with my assumption) that if we were talking about John Edwards being the principal we would of mentioned the fact that he was 2004 US Presidential Candidate - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 07:53, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

HSIE
After a quick WP search, I came to the conclusion that it means "Human Society and its Environment," but others may not know that, if that is even correct. Also, long term service leave? Thanks, —Calebrw (talk) 16:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Regarding your comments
It is true that some Australian schools have a rather collective "HSIE" subject, which does indeed stand for "Human Society and its Environment," especially in Catholic schools (I only happen to know this since I went to a Catholic school before high school). From my memory this encompassed mainly Geography and History, though there was a social studies aspect to it as well.

Long Term Service Leave is an entitlement that comes with employment in Australia. Can't bother going into the details, but after you have served for a certain number of years you're entitled to a certain number of (can't remember if it's paid, but I'm pretty sure it is) weeks holiday as a reward for long term service. Teachers often get to take advantage of this due to the rather permanent nature of their jobs.124.170.249.213 12:31, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Nature of the newsletter
Who produces this newsletter? I mean, it is obvious the school publishes it, but is it a student-written newsletter? The section where Ian MacDougall makes the controversial recommendation looks like the kind of interview a student newspaper would conduct of a teacher. If it is just a teacher trying to show he is "cool" at an all-boys school, that severely undermines it as an official "recommendation" for reading. In another question MacDougall complains that a girlfriend wrecked his first car. --SVTCobra 22:19, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

 * By the way, the cached version at xenware.net now matches the official one on the school website. Maybe it should be removed from sources as it no longer seems useful. --SVTCobra 22:53, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the headline of the article
The headline seems to make out that the school made some sort of list which literally recommended 'Penthouse' to be read. The actual article was simply a rather inappropriate attempt at humour from one of the teachers. While I believe in public education over private, I think it rather unfair to be slandering this school over the actions of a single priest and a misinterpreted attempt at humour. 124.170.249.213 12:38, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


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I want to write about the champions' league. The draw is on Friday. Donek (talk) 02:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


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Royal Society is not an 8 member team.
Contrary to the article, the Royal Society is not an 8 member team. It is an organization with hundreds of members.

I'm not fixing this as I would be guessing at what the sentence was supposed to mean.Wanderer57 (talk) 23:20, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

 * ✅ or at least I think I resovled this sentence into something that makes sense. Cheers, --SVTCobra 23:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Category improvement
editprotected I think "Category:Archaeology" is more appropriate than "Category:Anthropology and archaeology", as this article has nothing to do with anthropology. "Category:Archaeology" is also a subcategory of "Category:Anthropology and archaeology", thus it shouldn't be any problem. Van der Hoorn (talk) 18:48, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

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 * British actor John Inman dies at 71
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This article has references, but, no -- The references in this article cannot be displayed. SQL (talk) 04:36, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
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UK house prices have fallen 10.5% this year, says Nationwide Building Society

August 28, 2008

After dropping 1.9% in July, house prices in the United Kingdom are now falling at the fastest rate since 1990, according to Nationwide Building Society. The average price of a home has dropped by £20,000 down to £164,654, losing 10.5% of its value in 2008. Property values fell by 1.9% in the past month, and 1.5% in July. In another study, it was revealed that house prices have been steadily falling since October last year.

Nationwide's chief economist, Fionnuala Earley said that activities in the housing market had recently been "very subdued", although there are signs of increased interests in home sales, possibly due to the appeal of lower house prices.

The Bank of England stated there has been an increase in the number of people taking out a fixed rate mortgage as opposed to a variable rate loan. Further research by Nationwide has concluded that mortgage approvals also fell by 65% last month.


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Iraq plans 'Baghdad Eye' to draw in tourists

August 29, 2008 Iraqi officials are planning on having a Ferris wheel built as a tourist attraction to the nation's capital, Baghdad. The wheel would be called '' and is planned to sit over 650 ft above the. Adel al Ardawi, a Baghdad municipality spokesman said that "[t]his wheel will be taller than the iconic 443-foot ." He failed to comment on construction cost or a time line of how long it would take to build the wheel.

The London Eye in, England sits 443 ft over the. It has attracted more than 27 million visitors since its formal opening on December 31, 1999.

Each compartment is set to be air-conditioned and hold up to 30 people. Three possible locations for the wheel to sit have been selected. This is not the first attempt by the Iraqi Tourism Board to bring tourists into the capital. The board are seeking investors for a resort island. The island would include a six star hotel and a 18 hole golf course.

The United Kingdom's advises against all travel to Baghdad. A spokesperson said "The security situation in Iraq remains highly dangerous with a continuing high threat of terrorism throughout the country."


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 * Nothing wrong with a short article, IMO. 68.123.65.59 22:09, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


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Hmm, terrorism comes from the unequities caused by modern economics, politics and wars.

If a project such as this one goes on, it would help the region, thus reducing the probability of further developement of terrorism in the area.

terrorism is also linked to education, and human rights. By contributing to this project, foreign investors (or countries) will acquire Iraqi's trust and be greeted with friendship and comprehension. The money used into it's craetion, if well managed, will improve everyone's lives. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.24.132.190 (talk) 14:16, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Dude... IT'S A FERRIS WHEEL!! It's not the Holy Grail for crying out loud! It won't be a ferris wheel that is going to pull Iraq out of the misery it's in... What the hell is this?? ALL HAIL THE FERRIS WHEEL?? We're hungry... but ALL HAIL THE FERRIS WHEEL... Geez... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.243.118.178 (talk) 21:01, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

pipe-dream
Another crack-pot pipe-dream. It reminds me of this stupidity: 4.5-kilometre bridge to link Crimea with Russia --SVTCobra 14:16, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oops, I meant this stupidity: Russia plans $65bn tunnel to America. --SVTCobra 19:36, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Even a legally blind terrorist would be able to hit it with mortar. --+Deprifry+ 19:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

One thing about stupidity... IT NEVER GETS OLD.

 * So true about america - its a country run by fanatic christians. When america is no longer a superpower I relish the fact that the whole world with clink their glasses and say "thank god, the fools have fallen". 78.144.21.163 21:27, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Bird's eye view of bombers!!
Yea right, as if some terrorist is going to be able to resist a ferris wheel full of tourists! PerryO206.24.48.1 02:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


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I am trying to find out
I am trying to find out how members of the Reviewer group are selected, how one becomes a Reviewer and gains the rights associated therewith. Is this like the Editor group, such that, currently, that status is conferred by a member of the Administrator group? If so, what sort of criteria do Administrators use to confer Editor or Reviewer status? Is there a talk page about this? Thank you. Agiar2000 (talk) 17:19, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

 * That is currently being debated, as we have not had FlaggedRevs for very long. You can see the discussion at Wikinews talk:Reviewing articles. Cheers, --SVTCobra 17:34, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Iraq plans 'Baghdad Eye' to draw in tourists

Credible?
I realize that this has been picked up by newspapers around the world, but who is this Adel al Ardawi? They credit him as a municipality spokesperson, but a Google search does not show him in connection with any other story. Is this how legitimate plans for a massive project like this would be disseminated to the press? I really think this is a case of wishful thinking or "thinking outside the box" by Adel al Ardawi. Sorry, I don't buy it. --SVTCobra 18:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Besides that, the article as written faithfully preserves the facts as stated in the sources. --SVTCobra 18:41, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe so...but they can have people draw up proposals. But also note that those proposals will not necessarily be accepted. All projects are wishful thinking at this stage no matter where you are. All this is, as it stands is a proposal, or an idea. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:30, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Funny you mention the names that doesn't turn up anything...I was just wondering Wikileaks was down and i did a trace route and came up with a name of someone in Kenya...lol. Reminded me of those spam e-mails I got. But anyways, in relation to this, search for his name and tell me what comes up...nothing really...but does that mean WL is not credible? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:32, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You kinda lost me on the Wikileaks comparison, but it is irresponsible to report one man's dreams as an Iraqi plan, and that is what I suspect this is, despite the wide coverage. As such, I don't think we'd be reckless if we published, but I'd personally like it if we didn't didn't follow MSM like lemmings. --SVTCobra 00:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nonetheless, we went with the bigfoot articles...and look how that turned out. I don't think reporting on a nation's desire to have ideas is bad or what you describe. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well publishing the Bigfoot story also went against my 'better judgement', but yes it was fairly popular. But to explain the lemmings reference, it is a long-standing myth that these rodents (lemmings) jump off of cliffs to their deaths because their friends did it first. The myth was propagated by this video (Van Halen audio added later). --SVTCobra 01:02, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

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Ferris is a proper name, please change "ferris wheel" to "Ferris wheel". 92.40.27.182 (talk) 23:19, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
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Phil Hill, first American to win the Formula One championship, dies at age 81

August 28, 2008 Phil Hill, the American Formula One race-car driver, has died today at age 81 in Salinas, California. Phil died from complications from Parkinson's Disease. He was set to travel to a historic meeting at Monterey but was rushed to hospital. His son Derek, also a racecar driver had to retire to look after his father. Phil was the first American-born driver to win the Formula One World Drivers' Championship when he won the 1961 season. Italian-born American Mario Andretti, who won the Drivers' Championship in 1978, is the only other American to have won.

Phil Hill finished one point above the German Wolfgang von Trips, who died in a crash during the Italian Grand Prix.

As well as winning the 1961 F1 Season, Phil also won the 24 Hours of Le Mans three times in 1958, 1961 and 1962.

He continued to race up until 1966 when he retired. He failed to win another F1 race after the 1961 season. After retiring from racing he spent his time collecting vintage cars. He judged at the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance a record 38 times.

"It's a sad day," said close friend Carroll Shelby. "Phil was an excellent race car driver with a unique feel for the car, and his real expertise was in long-distance racing."


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