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I disagree, and I would urge you to reconsider. This is Obama's first MLK Day as president, and I think that it deserves a mention. It may not next year or in the years following, but since this is the nation's first MLK Day with a black president at the helm, it's a seemingly valid story at least for this one year. PSD27 (talk) 01:26, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, you raise a good point. I guess the article wasn't all "fluff" as i first thought. I was a little to quick to give it the proverbial bat. Cocoaguytalkcontribs‽ 01:43, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * In retrospect, the article was perfectly fine when I failed it's review. But now I've added too much to the article to be a uninvolved party. But otherwise it's ready for publishing. Cocoaguytalkcontribs‽ 02:08, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks for reconsidering. I appreciate it. PSD27 (talk) 02:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


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Ten years for murder only?--KDP3 (talk) 02:22, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

He wasnt able to kill the pope, so its Just assault. I think. 164.116.47.180 (talk) 15:37, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

 * He killed another guy; that was murder and that was ten years. Nineteen years was reasonable for the Pope thing, at least compared to other sentences. And no, it isn't just assault, attempting a crime is an offence in its own right. Therefore, the actual charge was attempted murder. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:24, 20 January 2010 (UTC)


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Woman returns home with Christmas turkey, a month after setting out

January 19, 2010

A Scottish woman who set out before Christmas to purchase a turkey finally made it home on Monday, after being cut off by snow for a month. Kay Ure left the Lighthouse Keeper's cottage on Cape Wrath, at the very northwest tip of Great Britain, in December. She was heading to Inverness on a shopping trip.

However on her return journey heavy snow and ice prevented her husband, John, from travelling the last 11 miles to pick her up. She was forced to wait a month in a friend's caravan, before the weather improved and the couple could finally be reunited.

They were separated not just for Christmas and New Year, but also for Mr Ure's 58th birthday. With no fresh supplies, he was reduced to celebrating with a tin of baked beans. He also ran out of coal, and had to feed the couple's six springer spaniels on emergency army rations.

"It's the first time we've been separated", said Mr Ure in December. "We've been snowed in here for three weeks before, so we are well used to it and it's quite nice to get a bit of peace and quiet."


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Comments:US President Obama celebrates his first Martin Luther King Jr. Day while in office

Frankly, this is not news. Leave the coverage of celebrity-photo-ops to CNN and People. --Wolfcm (talk) 16:02, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I disrespectfully disagree. This is news. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:08, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Its news if you are African-American.--KDP3 (talk) 17:23, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * There is not enough here to be news, but some of what Obama was quoted as saying in the USA Today source was thought-provoking and worth reading. This article on its own, though, is not news, to me. --67.174.131.145 (talk) 18:30, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for some constructive criticism! I'd also disagree with KDP3; this is news for all Americans, not just black ones. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:52, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

 * I see what you are saying. I was not saying it was not news worthy.--KDP3 (talk) 18:55, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Would "President McCain celebrates first Grandparents Day in office" have been newsworthy? 206.74.5.136 (talk) 04:13, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

 * If he made a massive public photo-op out of it, then yes. I don't view this as particularly important news, but it is news nonetheless. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:26, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

it is news because it's on wikinews - Dr. Rabbit

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I ENJOY THE ARTICLE VERY MUCH,ALSO I THINK MR.OBAMA IS DOING THE BEST HE CAN WITH WHAT HE HAS TO WORK WITH. —68.36.199.187 (talk) 17:07, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


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Comments:Woman returns home with Christmas turkey, a month after setting out

Wow.--KDP3 (talk) 17:24, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

what is this i mean for real we have people that dont have a home to return to.

It's stories like this that make many question the reality of AGW.

Lul? Lul. 164.116.47.180 (talk) 15:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

LOL good story -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 13:22, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


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Out of interest
Are you a regular reader of WN stuff, or just when something catches your eye? Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:18, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I read articles featured on the main page every day. :)  Whether I go much more deeply really depends on how much time I have, and whether anything catches my interest.  I try to [visit] most of the major projects every few days.  English Wikinews gets a little more of my attention than, say, French Wiktionary, because - first - I speak English and not French, and also because I have an interest in journalism.  Philippe (WMF) (talk) 23:21, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for satisfying my noseyness! Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:24, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

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Comments:Historic gym the site of Benet Academy, Illinois victory over Oswego

Oswego vs. Benet Article on Wikinews.
Great article! It was almost surreal watching my sons - Jack on the Sophomore team - and Joe on the Varsity team - playing against my old team in the gym I played in over 30 years ago. The gym was smaller than what I remembered and much cooler due to a new air ventilation system. After now viewing a game from a fan's perspective, I can see why it was such a tough place to play. The court itself is narrower than most courts allowing less room to maneuver on offense. The fans are literally on the court on both sides of the stands. I also didn't realize or maybe I just forgot how loud it got in there. The crowd roar along with the pep band was almost deafening. I always felt playing at home was at least a 10 point advantage and all these factors certainly contributed to that edge.

I was fortunate enough to be on the team that started the conference winning streak. I don't think any of us ever dreamed that this streak would reach 95 games! What a thrill to be part of that streak!

I'm not sure what the record is for least points scored by two teams in that gym but I have to believe last Saturday's game has to be close. It was a testament to how hard these two teams played on defense. Watching the two teams reminded me of the Benet teams of old where the opposing team had to scrape and fight for every point. After the 1st quarter, I commented that the first team to 30 would win and it almost came down to that!

I am thrilled that my two sons were able to experience what it was like to play in the "old" gym. There is nothing else like it. It is a living sports memorial if there ever was one.

Thanks to Jim Bagley for working with our Alma Mater to set this game up! It was such a great thrill!

 * Thank you for your comments, mysterious Benet grad!


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Comments:France, Germany officials warn against using Internet Explorer

Why would you want IE anyway... what an excuse to bin it.

Not everyone knows where to get firefox. furthermore, IE8 has fewer holes in it than most. anyway, Get Chrome! 164.116.47.180 (talk) 15:29, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

I fully agree with Wikinews and the EU concerning "All Versions" of IE has the potiential for being a hazzard to ones computer. IE 9, for example, gave me a Root Kit infection which resulted in me losing everything on both my C-Drive as well as the 300 GB external hard drive I was utilizing as a backup; as both were so infected. It also allowed someone to access my computer so a total removal and re-install of Microsoft needed to be done. I believe one would be better off going with any platform other than Microsoft; eventhough Microsoft's support is great. The worst computer, and support staff has to be that of "TOSHIBA'S" Customer "No Service". They do nothing but lie and scam the owners of their computers. I have a Toshiba Satellite that just turned one year old on June 4, 2011 and I have had nothing but problems with this piece of junk since the beginning. For the most part, at least with me, Toshiba's support, or lack thereof, has caused more problems than they correct; even going so far as to undermine what Windows Support do to correct Toshiba's screw-ups. Toshiba's warranty sucks as well does their words.

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Former rugby union commentator Bill McLaren dies at age 86

January 20, 2010

Rugby union commentator Bill McLaren died yesterday aged 86. The British Broadcasting Corporation made the announcement that he had died at 1030 GMT in Hawick, in the Scottish Borders — his chosen home town.

McLaren started rugby commentating on a BBC radio station in 1953 while he was a reporter with The Hawick Express, a newspaper. He later moved to television commentary in 1959. He was awarded an MBE, an OBE and a CBE and retired in 2002. People have now paid tribute to the man who became known as the "voice of rugby". In a video shown on BBC News Online, HRH The Princess Royal can be quoted as saying that "[e]ven if you didn't think that you understood anything about rugby, somehow Bill McLaren gave you the confidence to listen to what he was saying. And he was always the same. He was clear, he was interesting and always unbiased."

Some of Bill McLaren's famous quotes, or what The Daily Telegraph render "McLaren-isms", include McLaren saying that "[h]e kicked that ball like it were three pounds o’ haggis", "[m]y goodness, that wee ball’s gone so high there’ll be snow on it when it comes down" and "[h]e’s like a demented ferret up a wee drainpipe".

Gavin Hastings, who was the former rugby captain for Scotland, said that "[f]irst and foremost, Bill was a very proud and passionate Scot but such was his professionalism that you would never really have known that. He always remained very unbiased in his commentary and I think that that was unquestionably one of his endearing qualities.  He was a wonderful commentator and he just brought the world of rugby into so many people's homes." John Thorbun, who is the secretary for Hawick Rugby Club, stated: "We're devastated, obviously — we've got a room named after him at the rugby club. It was very close to his heart, Hawick Rugby Club.  He's a huge loss to rugby worldwide."


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Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:30, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Cheers. Templates are nicer than the no-welcome-at-all I had on wikipedia for about half a year :( A F K When Needed (talk) 10:55, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

 * That does suck :(. I recently discovered we had a user who is a 'crat, admin and (I think?) on Arbcom who had never been welcomed. Most new accounts now get one automatically. Enjoy yourself here if you do hang around; it's friendlier than Wikipedia since we have a smaller community. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:17, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
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According to UN report, bribes cost Afghans US$2.5 billion per year

January 20, 2010 According to a newly-released report compiled by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), bribes paid to police, military, and public officials over the past year have cost Afghan civilians collectively over US$2.5 billion, nearly the equivalent of a quarter of the country's legitimate GDP.

Entitled "Corruption in Afghanistan", the report was based on polling of approximately 7,600 people in cities and villages around the nation. According to the report, 59% of those surveyed said that government sanctioned corruption was a more pressing concern to them than insecurity (54%) or unemployment (52%).

The report adds that more than half the population had to pay out at least one bribe in 2009. Furthermore, in a country where the economic output is only $425 per person, the average bribe cost nearly $160. Three out of four bribes were paid in cash.

Another finding is that one in every three Afghans believed that bribery was just a normal part of society. That being the case, only 9% of those surveyed—for whatever reason—ever chose to report these type acts to the proper authorities. The reports go on to say that there is a widely-held perception among 54% of Afghans that foreign nations and non-governmental organizations are just in their country "to get rich."

The head of the UNODC, Antonio Maria Costa, said in a statement to the international media, "The Afghans say that it is impossible to obtain a public service without paying a bribe. Bribery is a crippling tax on people who are already among the world's poorest."

Costa went on to note that there is a "new caste of rich and powerful individuals who operate outside the traditional power and tribal structures and bid the cost of favors and loyalty to levels not compatible with the under-developed nature of the country. Criminal graft has become similarly monumental, perverse and growing and is having political, economic and even security consequences."

"It's time to drain the swamp of corruption in Afghanistan, to stop money and trust disappearing down a big black hole. Corruption is the biggest impediment to improving security, development and governance in Afghanistan."

This report was released Tuesday, nine days before a scheduled international conference on Afghanistan in London. There, Afghan President Hamid Karzai is expected to face criticism for his perceived passive stance on corruption from the coalition of nations—especially the United States—that have thousands of troops committed to Afghanistan as part of the Global War on Terrorism.

President Karzai was sworn in for a second five-year term last November after a controversial and hard-fought election during which he was widely accused of various types of fraud. Nevertheless, he has staunchly defended his record on corruption, stating that the entire issue had been "blown out of proportion by Western media."


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Scott Brown wins special election for Massachusetts's Senate seat in upset victory

January 21, 2010 Republican State Senator Scott Brown has won the Massachusetts United States Senate seat formerly held by the late Ted Kennedy in a major upset victory, becoming the first Republican that state has elected in 38 years. The state senator from Wrentham beat Massachusetts's Attorney General, Martha Coakley, in a closely watched race that many believe may have a nationwide impact.

With higher than expected turnout — despite snow and rain blanketing much of the state — Brown won with 51.9% of the vote, as Coakley lagged behind closely with 47.1% of the vote in a state generally considered to be heavily Democratic. The race garnered national attention when Brown came from behind in opinion polls to take a last-minute lead, leaving Democrats scrambling. Meanwhile, Independent Libertarian Joseph L. Kennedy, who has no relation to the late Senator Kennedy, ran under the Liberty ticket on the ballot and only garnered one percent of the vote with 22,237 votes.

Secretary of the Commonwealth William F. Galvin predicted earlier in the day that turnout would be 40 to 55 percent. Galvin was quote as saying, “We’ve been in touch with many of our city and town clerks to monitor turnout. They uniformly tell us that turnout is brisk, that interest is strong.”

Galvin added, “We’re particularly seeing a high level of interest in some of the suburban communities. Traditionally cities tend to vote somewhat later. But we have seen a number of communities (with) lines, and people standing in lines, very patiently, in the snow.” His office sent out 105,000 absentee ballots.

Brown's strongest vote came from the suburbs of Boston where independent voters, which make up a majority in Massachusetts, generally live.

Coakley's strongest vote came from the cities, including the capital, Boston, where she won by a large margin, along with Massachusetts' second and third largest cities, Worcester and Springfield. Other large cities that went for Coakley included New Bedford, Fall River, Brockton, Lynn, Salem, and Lawrence.

Wikinews reporter Patrick Mannion noted the turnout at his polling place in Lynn was small to moderate.

Brown has promised to be the 41st Republican senator that will end the Democrats' filibuster proof supermajority and in a ironic twist of fate possibly end health-care reform of which his predecessor Ted Kennedy called "the cause of my life."

Coakley called Brown shortly before the election was called for him to concede to him. She then went in front of supporters at Boston's Sheraton Hotel saying, "Although our campaign ends tonight, we know that our mission continues and our work goes on." Coakley continued, "I am heartbroken at the result and I know that you are also, but I know that you will get up together and continue this fight even with this result tonight."

Coakley finished her speech with a slight crack in her voice by quoting Ted Kennedy's famous line from the 1980 Democratic National Convention, "The work begins anew, the hope rises again, and the dream lives on."

Meanwhile, at Boston's Park Plaza Hotel, Brown gave his victory speech to supporters saying, "I’ll bet they can hear all this cheering down in Washington, D.C." Brown continued, saying, "And I hope they’re paying close attention, because tonight the independent voice of Massachusetts has spoken."

Brown added, "This Senate seat belongs to no one person and no political party — and as I have said before, and you said loud and clear today, it is the people’s seat." He continued, "The people, by their votes, have now filled the office themselves, and I am ready to go to Washington without delay."

Brown was joined on stage by his wife, Gail Huff, a reporter for local television station WCVB-TV, and his two daughters Arianna and Ayla Brown. Ayla was previously a contestant on the reality singing show American Idol. Brown said, "I rely as always, on Gail's love and support and that of our beautiful daughters."

Brown jokingly added, "And just in case anyone who's watching throughout the country they're both available. No, no. No. Only kidding, only kidding. Only kidding, only kidding. Arianna... Arianna's, definitely not available. But Ayla is. This is Arianna. This is Ayla. I can see I'm going to get in trouble when I get home."

Brown closed by saying, "I’m Scott Brown. I'm from Wrentham. I drive a truck, and I am nobody’s senator but yours."

President Barack Obama phoned both candidates Tuesday night, congratulating Brown on a well-run campaign and saying he is eager to work with him on the urgent problems facing Massachusetts voters and all Americans.

Coakley noted the President's call in her concession speech saying, “He actually just called me before I came onstage to say that we can’t win them all, and he knows that better than any, as he told me. But he appreciates what I did and what you did, and he said to extend his heartfelt thanks to everyone who worked on the campaign.”

Brown's response to the President's call was, "Would you like me to drive the truck down to Washington so you can see it?" Brown was referring to his 2005 GMC Canyon pickup truck which became an icon of his campaign, which featured in commericals portraying him as an everyday, regular joe Massachusetts citizen. The pickup truck was mocked by President Obama when he made a campaign stop on Sunday to drum up support for the lagging Coakley.

This led Brown to quip, "I didn't mind when President Obama came here and criticized me — that happens in campaigns. But when he criticized my truck, that's where I draw the line."

Senator-elect Brown will fill the remaining two years of Ted Kennedy's term. Brown will replace Senator Paul Kirk, a longtime friend of Ted Kennedy who was holding the seat in the interim until the special election was concluded.

The last time Massachusetts elected a Republican was in 1972 when they re-elected Edward Brooke, the state's first African-American senator, to a second term. Brooke first ran in 1966 and was elected then.

However, the seat that Ted Kennedy held, which is the Class 1 seat, was held by a Republican until 1952 when Henry Cabot Lodge lost his re-election bid to Ted's older brother, John F. Kennedy, who would later become the 35th President of the United States. Ted Kennedy won the seat in a special election in 1962 against Lodge's son, George C. Lodge. Kennedy held the seat for 46 years until dying of brain cancer in August 2009.

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Many local politicans spoke about the victory, Mayor of Boston Tom Menino who recently began his fifth term earlier this month said, “I never thought I’d see the day when a Republican replaces Ted Kennedy. I think Scott Brown caught the wave of anger that’s out there, and the wave of anti-Obama."

Representative Ed Markey, the Democrat who represents Massachusetts's 7th congressional district, plans to pass the health care bill despite the victory. Markey said, "As Sen. Kennedy would say, the cause endures, and the dream will never die.”

Representative Barney Frank, the Democrat who represents Massachusetts's 4th congressional district, was blunt on Coakley's loss. "Martha Coakley was a lousy candidate. She let herself get involved in a personality debate."

Coakley was blamed by some Democratic officials for running a bad campaign and not campaigning enough for the seat, especially with taking a vacation right before the new year to the Caribbean.

Massachusetts Senate President Therese Murray said, "Money was the issue after the primary. We just couldn't get people's attention."

Former Republican Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, who back in 1994 took on the late Senator Kennedy for this same seat in a heated election, was quoted as saying, "When it comes to the liberal arrogance in Washington, D.C. Scott Brown's victory is the shot heard around the world."

Romney added, "He’s run a good campaign and he’s made it clear that the ignorance in Washington has been rejected." Romney was also quoted saying, "This is really a referendum, if you will, on the Barack Obama agenda...I think the people here in Massachusetts, in the bluest of blue states, are saying they don’t like this kind of arrogance."

Politicians from around the country also chimed in such as Howard Dean, the former Governor of Vermont, a candidate in the 2004 presidential election and the former head of the Democratic National Committee, who was responsible for the "50 States" strategy which focused on winning Democratic seats in all 50 states.

Dean speaking on MSNBC said, "We’ve got to be tougher. I’ve said Democrats haven’t been tough enough." He added, "I don’t think this was a backlash on health care reform, I think it was a backlash on Washington."

Senator Robert Menendez, Democrat from New Jersey, who is the chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, said, "I have no interest in sugar coating what happened in Massachusetts. There is a lot of anxiety in the country right now.  Americans are understandably impatient.  The truth is Democrats understand the economic anger voters feel, that’s in large part why we did well in 2006 and 2008.”

Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell, Republican from Kentucky, said "There’s a reason the nation was focused on this race. The voters in Massachusetts, like Americans everywhere, have made it abundantly clear where they stand on health care.  They don’t want this bill and want Washington to listen to them."


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For all intent and purpose, this special election marks the end of the health-care debate. The Democrats can't get cloture now, and there's about a 100% chance of a Republican filibuster on any health-care legislation that comes through. —69.221.165.95 (talk) 09:27, 20 January 2010 (UTC)


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Oxford University anti-peer-to-peer policy hits legal music service Spotify

January 20, 2010 The University of Oxford is preventing students from accessing the legal, peer-to-peer online music service Spotify. Officials in the university's Computer Services department (OUCS) say too much of the network's bandwidth is taken up by people using such services, slowing down the network for others.

Spotify, which has more than 2.7 million users in the UK, allows users to listen to music stored on other users' computers over the internet, either for free with adverts, or without adverts for a monthly fee. While the university allows students to use its network for free for academic purposes, it places restrictions on peer-to-peer sites, where data is shared between many connected computers rather than being downloaded from a central source, as these require more bandwidth.

Students were said to be unhappy with the move. One said that she was "shocked" at the ban, another called it "discrimination against music lovers", and another said that he could "see nothing wrong" with students using Spotify, as "it's not as if every single person is on it every single hour of the day." There were reports, however, that the ban had inconsistencies, with students at some colleges still able to connect to the service. A university spokeswoman said: "The university provides free internet access for students because it's an educational resource. If they want to use it recreationally as well that's no problem unless it uses so much bandwidth that it slows the network down." OUCS added, "Bandwidth that seems insignificant for one user will soon add up when scaled up to the many thousands of users connected to Oxford University's networks. It is one thing attempting to justify a network upgrade on the basis of a genuine academic requirement, such as the petabytes of data expected from CERN when their latest collider comes online."

In response, Spotify said: "We're sad to think of our student friends at Oxford University unable to listen to Spotify whilst on campus. We're talking to the university about how we can help them give the music back to their students."


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This is single source - the student paper - which the Telegraph and Sky News have cribbed from with no additional research.

I became aware there might be a story around this yesterday via twitter, one of the BBC's reporters quickly looked into it and tweeted that there is no official ban. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:19, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

 * How about para 4.10 of this set of university IT rules: "Spotify is a music streaming service. It relies on a peer-to-peer system for distribution of content, and its use is therefore forbidden on the University network."? Bencherlite (talk) 11:22, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Against the rules and an actual ban are quite different. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:24, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Were there an actual ban, it'd be reported here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/default.stm As I say, the BBC looked into it and found it's not as blanket and draconian as some sources imply. Thus, it isn't an official ban by the university; it is some colleges implementing policy. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:27, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't follow. (1) Just because the BBC hasn't reported it, it isn't true? (2) The page I linked above isn't a college page, it's a university page.  Use of Spotify on the university network is forbidden / banned (I don't see the difference between the two, perhaps you can explain). (3) Students were clearly able to listen to Spotify in the past, and then they couldn't - see the Cherwell story, where it says "Students were baffled when Spotify suddenly stopped working" and one student is quoted as saying "I hoped that it was a technical glitch, and that the university would be able to fix it". Bencherlite (talk) 11:32, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The BBC didn't report it because one of their staff (https://twitter.com/ruskin147) checked out the story and found out it was not as specified by Sky and the Telegraph. They're regurgitating what the student paper wrote so this is single source. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:35, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sigh. Can't be bothered to argue this one anymore, so just delete it, please. Bencherlite (talk) 11:46, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, looking again, it's not single-source. The Telegraph has a quotation from a university spokeswoman, which isn't in the Cherwell article; so there's more than one report that the service is banned. Just because one BBC journalist contacted one student who didn't think that there was a ban doesn't mean that the story is wrong. I'd like another pair of eyes on this, please. Bencherlite (talk) 13:51, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. Where I'd be concerned is that this is just a few of the University's colleges getting round to technically implementing their "no filesharing" policy. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:40, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I've added a sentence to the article mentioning that the ban appears to have inconsistencies, as noted in the sources, but the Cherwell article and the Telegraph article are both along the lines of it being a newly-imposed university ban rather than a badly-coordinated college implementation of something that was already imposed at some colleges (none of the Cherwell article is along the lines of Spotify having previously been inaccessible at X college but accessible at Y college). Bencherlite (talk) 19:46, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It might, considering the details apparent, be better to title this Oxford University anti-peer-to-peer policy hits legal music service Spotify. A tad long but, more accurate. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:55, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

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'as these require more bandwidth.' This generalisation is unsubstantiated and should be removed. 94.193.134.98 (talk) 12:36, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


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6.1 magnitude aftershock earthquake hits Haiti

January 20, 2010 A strong earthquake has once again struck Haiti, eight days after a 7.0 magnitude quake left much of the nation in ruins.

The US Geological Survey said the latest tremor had a magnitude of 6.1 and was centered 59 kilometres from the capital Port-au-Prince, which was devastated by the initial quake. It occurred at 06.03 local time (11.03 UTC). There were no immediate reports of damage or injuries from the aftershock, which comes as an international aid effort is underway to help those affected by last week's powerful earthquake.

"People are still very traumatised here," said a reporter for the Al Jazeera news agency who was in Haiti when the aftershock struck. "It's 6.30 in the morning, but people have taken to the streets with whatever belongings they have. A lot of buildings did not collapse in the quake [a week ago] but they have cracks. We do not have any reports of damage yet."

Officials estimate the initial earthquake killed about 200,000 people and affected three million — about a third of Haiti's population. Haitian authorities said 75,000 have been buried in mass graves.

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Is "aftershock earthquake" redundant, or is it just me? --Thunderhead 18:39, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
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When I vote I did a general observation of how many people were in the high school gym, wasn't much. --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 17:19, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

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Again!--KDP3 (talk) 18:18, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

 * That's how earthquakes work. Usually there are aftershocks to deal with. At least it wasn't NEARLY as strong as the first one, a little over a tenth of the energy --128.205.229.150 (talk) 20:51, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ...6.1 is a tenth of 7.0? – Juliancolton  | Talk 21:30, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * IIRC, on the Richter scale each number magnitude is 30 times stronger than the one before it; i.e. a magnitude 7 is 30x the power of a magnitude 6. Not sure if that applies here, or are they using the moment magnitude scale? Tempodivalse [talk]  21:39, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

 * I thought it was a logarithmic scale, so every 1 higher is 10x stronger. I'm wrong, though, looking it up each 1.0 higher is 31.6x the energy. So even better then --128.205.229.150 (talk) 22:16, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

 * The scale quantifies amplitude, not energy. Amplitude and energy are related, but are not the same thing. 94.193.134.98 (talk) 12:47, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


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Rating: What do you think of this page?
Hello. Is is a nice idea to allow users to rate Wikinews article. However, some of the chosen criterias are quite irrelevant. For example, I was reading Interview: Drupal founder Dries Buytaert balances community and company interests. Since it is a interwiev, there is not point in rating the "neutrality".

Regardless of this case, it is odd to rate the "completeness" of the article. News should be short, not complete. "Presentation" and "realiability" are OK. I would suggest the following criterias: Yours, Dodoïste (talk) 01:20, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Usefulness (did I find what I was looking for?)
 * Attractiveness / interesting (did I enjoyed reading?)
 * Presentation
 * Realiability
 * Neutrality (but not in "Interview" namespace!)
 * Interviews can be non-neutral (having only easy questions, etc). I agree, the review thingy definitely needs work. I definitly agree that your categories are better. (we were also looking at how http://newstrust.net has rating criteria too). I think the entire box should be perhaps be re-done. Bawolff ☺☻

Rating seem to be rare, in my opinion. Is there a way to attach the ratings to the comments page? Benny the mascot (talk) 01:56, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you mean the rate this page box, or the ratings for this page page. A large part of the problem is that the rating system was more designed with wikipedia in mind, and thus is more suited to an encyclopedia (category-wise), as well as for articles that change over time. The Main Page is the only page that seems to generate substantial ratings . And when an article is rated, we don't know about it unless we manually check (We do have things like special:ratedPages, but they don't show recent pages, only overall highly rated pages. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:42, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I was thinking about other websites in which you can submit a comment and a rating at the same time. If we could somehow combine the two, then we would probably get more ratings. I think we should attach the ratings box to all three namespaces (article, talk, and comments) and display the ratings summaries on the comments page. Benny the mascot (talk) 14:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

 * Article rating was not generally requested; it came with flagged revisions. I'd happily see it turned off rather than someone waste time on a tool that's not going to be comfortably shoehorned into meeting Wikinews requirements. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:33, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I'd have to agree with Brian on this. We don't have the viewer figures for this to be worthwhile and it seems to be aimed at tracking how public perception changes with article changes. We lock things down to prevent long-term editing, so that's never going to work. Also, completeness is important for news. It needs to give the details for you to have an informed opinion on topical issues and it needs to explain why you should care. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:39, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The NewsTrust model is far more suited to the work Wikinews does. They've picked out criteria they feel are appropriate to news writing and have a supporting reputation system for reviewers. This isn't something readily added on to MediaWiki. NewsTrust should be working on an API that would allow Wikinews to develop an interface accessing their database, but not sharing Wikinews' reader details. At the moment you may enter any Wikinews article into NewsTrust's database via the "NT" icon in the social bookmarks template. This would require a separate registration with NewsTrust and there is currently no way to pull back review data from NewsTrust for display on a Wikinews article. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:22, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well i think that newstrust is certainly very cool, i think the reader feedback extension (which is now a separate extension from flagged revs) is still (or still has the potential to be) useful. Reader feedback is in essence a quick survey of our users, it has the benefits of first of all being on site (less clicks), and second not requiring log in. Newstrust does review things, but it wouldn't, even in the best case, get quick feedback by random, mostly uninterested, viewers who really don't care enough to register an account. There are some configuration changes to reader feedback we can request that i think will make it more useful (or at least be a step in the right direction):

Bawolff ☺☻ 07:50, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * We can also style it up a little bit. Try the reader feedback style gadget (under browsing gadgets in special:preferences). Bawolff ☺☻ 11:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I also love the review on Newstrust. The major thing we could learn from Newstrust is "be user-friendly". When I arrived on the website, I immediately saw that I could review the articles. And the presentation felt attractive, so I went ahead right away. On Wikinews, the reader have to read until the bottom of the article to notice that... "Hey! Does that mean I can review the article?"
 * The whole review system should be redesigned. It's a shame the Wikimedia Foundation doesn't employ a designer. Anyway, there should be a big enough button on the top right of the page, called "review". When you click on it you get to review the article. Keep it simple stupid! :-) Dodoïste (talk) 12:45, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey Bawolff, I've just tried your feedback style gadget. It's pretty awesome, really. Way better than before. :-) To make it more user-friendly I recommend you replace the diamonds (♦) by stars. Yellow or red stars, just like on YouTube. Using designs the user is already familiar with plays a big role in usability. Again, well done Bawolff! Yours, Dodoïste (talk) 13:17, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Feeds Not Working
What has happened to Wikinew's RSS Feed? I've been subscribed to you guys for a long while but, recently, the feeds have stopped showing up. Is it under repairs or is there some sort of glitch? --96.229.42.228 (talk) 05:35, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, we know there's a problem. It is being looked at and a more permanent solution than using feedburner is in the works. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:12, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Stay tuned for all sorts of fun and exciting news -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 17:45, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * CSpurrier said he was working on the problem. In the mean time you can use |No_publish|brief&title=Latest+Wikinews+news&Get+RSS=Get+RSS&categories=Published which is similiar to the main feed. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:52, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It is working again. The devs adjusted what urls are valid sometime around new years. The screen scraper worked by adding &action=render. When the extra arguments went away, this now returns the missing page thing. I have adjusted my script to do it as index.php?article=article_name&action=render. What has been happening is that since the change, the script has been timing out because the missing page thing includes all of the extra page stuff which makes it large enough that the script takes too long to process and was timing out before it could write the feed (it should have been able to write article title even if it could not load the pages). I have upped the timeout limit, so hopeful this wont happen again. --Cspurrier (talk) 21:09, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, for the curious, this appears to be my fault, as I told Zach to make his bot stop using showcurid, since it was preventing spiders (a Bad Thing), which resulted in the issue in question. Sorry about that. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:14, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Technical updates - DynamicPageList
I wanted to take a moment to congratulate Bawolff on his accomplishment with Bug patch 6910, which addressed a bunch of DynamicPageList bug reports. Xyr patch was reviewed by two WMF devs and committed, and is now waiting to be reviewed again and moved to the live branch. As far as I am aware, this is the first time WMF developers have ever reviewed Wikinews code submissions - yes, that's since 2004.

One of the particularly cool things added is a gallery mode, to find media files related to specific topics. (One thing I particularly like is Bawolff fixed up some really klugey code and made it much more maintainable.)

Big Kudos, Bawolff!! -  Amgine | t 05:43, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Amgine. Yep, I have to agree - I was following this and it is a helpful patch. Congrad Bawolff! :) Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 05:53, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. [[image:Smile.png|20px]]. Bawolff ☺☻ 09:58, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Squeeee! Wikinews code! I do hope duct tape was involved somewhere. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:14, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Need a hand for Tamil WikiNews
Hi there, I’m Mayu from Tamil Wikinews. We found that you guys have RSS field enabled for your news feed. We would like to have one such feature in our Tamil Wikinews.

It’d be very helpful if any of you can give us the inside technical support, at least some information on where we can start.

Peace --Mayu (talk) 11:32, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if i understand you right. Do you mean how the rss feed is in the url bar on firefox/other browsers? This can be done through a config change, all you need to do is file a bug on bugzilla (See the en wikinews one for example - 15080). (note, thats just associating the rss feed with the website. if your looking to get an rss feed, try http://toolserver.org/~cspurrier/rss/rss.php maybe) Cheers. Hope that helped. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:00, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Thank you very much for your prompt reply. You actually got my question and answered it. Both the links are good.

 * Sorry but another question. According to your first link I should get my RSS field when I go to http://ta.wikinews.org/w/index.php?lang=ta&family=wikinews but no luck?? Any idea where I’m making the mistake??? or should I configure something in the server?

 * Of course we’ll raise a bugzilla bug for the replacement of the RSS of recent change with the RSS of recent news. Thanks for the support. I'll ask a tech savvy Tamil Wikipedian also to help us in this cause.

 * Thanks in advance.

 * Peace -- --Mayu (talk)
 * You can get the rss link with http://toolserver.org/~cspurrier/rss/rss.php?lang=ta&project=wikinews&categories= replacing some_category with a category [preferably url-encoded]. (on enwikinews we use category:Published [well actually we use a different rss feed, but we still use cat published]). Hope that helps. Bawolff ☺☻ 12:15, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks a lot Bawolff :) This is exactly wot we are looking for. I'll ask the sysob to raise an bug to replace firefox RSS feed now. Peace --ஜெ.மயூரேசன் (talk) 13:13, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, you can add an &desc= &title= to that url in order to translate the title and feed description in to tamil. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:54, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Google news issue
Illinois high school boys basketball: Benet beats Carmel after losing previous close games isn't showing up on Google News. Does this problem happen frequently? Benny the mascot (talk) 13:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Occasionally. I can think of a couple other articles this happens to. We don't really know why. This is one of the reasons why we want GNSM, as then we would be able to determine why articles do not show up, if they do not show up. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:17, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I just figured out that the article shows up when I search not "Benet Academy", but rather "Benet". Strange... Benny the mascot (talk) 00:23, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps because the word Academy is not in the article title? Bawolff ☺☻ 12:10, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

adding articles to watch list
I haven't been super-active recently, so I just now noticed the disappearance of the "add to watch list" button that seems to have come along with the new skin. Maybe it didn't disappear, maybe I just can't find it. So I'll ask ... if I am looking at an article, how can I add it to my watch list .. and please don't tell me to edit my raw list. Cheers, --SVTCobra 03:07, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Edit your raw watchlist. Or, ya know, you could click the star icon next to view history. Either or.  Personally I like the first option.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 03:10, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, the star. I feel dumb. Don't worry, it is a normal condition. --SVTCobra 03:13, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The better answer is don't use Vector. – Juliancolton  | Talk 04:12, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for being an Ass. Real helpful like. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 04:17, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Problem!!
The article that was published today, my interview with Paul Campbell has not appeared in the RSS feed, and therefore not on Twitter. It also hasn't been picked up by Google News and hasn't appeared on the popular articles list(although this could be because noone is interested!). Can anyone help?!!   Tris   16:45, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Strange. The only reason it wasn't on popular articles was because of not many hits (unsurprisingly, when it doesn't show up anywhere!), but I don't know about the other problems. the wub "?!"  17:18, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think this problem has happened a few times already. Looks like you'll have to accept the low number of hits... :( Benny the mascot (talk) 18:24, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Benny, I'm not particularly bothered about the hits in the big scheme of things, but we still need to get it fixed. It's not just a problem with Google News which we've had before, but also the RSS.     Tris   18:26, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Google news and popular list is some other problem. (most likely google news being stupid, and it just not getting enough exposure to be on the popular list). The RSS/facebook/twitter/identica issue is that there was no date template on the article. (twitter gets articles from RSS which gets articles from another RSS, which gets the articles from the list on T:LN, which gets them based on date categories. (as date categories are more reliable then the category_timestamp on the published cat [which the main page uses]). Long story short, it should be listed now. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:11, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Aha, thank you for your genius! What would I do without you?!     Tris   22:44, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Sports scoreboard
I would like the scoreboard on Illinois high school boys basketball: Benet Academy beats Oswego while playing in historic gym to still say "Oswego Panthers" but link to Oswego High School (Illinois). How can I make that happen? In previous articles I just created Wikipedia redirects. (see Benet Academy Redwings) Benny the mascot (talk) 00:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Looks like it's been done. Oswego Panthers would be how you'd do it for future reference. -RockerballAustralia (talk) 01:41, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

 * I'm actually talking about the template on the top of the page. Benny the mascot (talk) 01:53, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅. Use parameter  to override the wiki link. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot! Benny the mascot (talk) 04:30, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Easy Peer Review semi-borked?
Does the reviewing and puts the review template on the talk page. However, it doesn't change the article from to  and the articles aren't appearing in Latest news. --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 07:23, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * my fault, moment. Bawolff ☺☻ 11:19, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, didn't happen in my test. Does it still happen after doing a hard refresh? do you get any errors? Bawolff ☺☻ 11:27, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think i know what it was, should be fixed now. (forgot an include statement, thats in my js elsewhere, thus didn't appear when testing) Do a hard refresh if it doesn't work. Sorry about that. Bawolff ☺☻ 11:41, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


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Thanks!
Thank you for your productive and helpful edits on Wikinews. We really appreciate what you've done. Wikinews needs more good editors like yourself; please consider getting an account! We'd be very happy to have you. Tempodivalse [talk]  21:06, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

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Eight killed in Virginia shooting, suspect surrenders

January 21, 2010

Four adults, three teens and a child—both men and women—were murdered on Tuesday morning in a mass shooting in Appomattox, Virginia. According to police sources, three of the bodies were found inside a home, and the other four directly outside it.

Later in the day, civilians came upon an eighth victim in serious condition on the side of a road—which led to police being called. However, the man died en route to the hospital. Soon after, authorities identified the alleged shooter as Christopher Speight, aged 39, whom state and local police working in conjunction with the National Guard had surrounded in nearby woods.

The rural area was under an almost complete lock down as a perimeter was established that included hundreds of law enforcement officers and soldiers patrolling the area for the suspect. While being pursued, Speight is said to have fired multiple high-powered rounds at a state helicopter. Although there were no reported injuries, the bullets did rupture the fuel tank forcing it to land.

After an entire night of playing cat and mouse games with police, Christopher Speight surrendered to police of his own volition early Wednesday morning unarmed but wearing a bulletproof vest. Following this, police searched his Appomattox residence where they discovered several explosive devices on the premises.

In a statement to the media, Tom Molinar of Virginia State Police said that bomb technicians and canine units were on the scene. He went on to say that the situation was now under complete control, and that the proper authorities were safely detonating said devices as he spoke.

Christopher Speight is currently being housed in a local jail until charges are officially filed. The Appomattox Sheriff said that although motives for Speight's action are for now unknown, it is believed that he acted alone.


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Storm causes Southern Californian residents to evacuate

January 22, 2010

A storm in the, California area has caused reasons for residents in burn areas to evacuate. Californians in these area braced themselves from mudslides and flash floods due to the expected 25 cm (10 in) of rain yesterday. The (NWS) predicted 3.8 cm (1.5 in) per hour in these fire-affected areas.

Charles Beck, chief, advised residents, "If a Los Angeles police officer comes to your door and tells you to leave: leave. We're not asking you to leave because we think your lawn's going to get dirty, we're not doing it because your carpet's going to get wet. We're doing it because your life is at risk."

Two days prior, the Los Angeles Coast, the NWS issued tornado warnings, a rarity, for the, South Los Angeles, and and areas. There were reports of a tornado touching down at in. The tornado reportedly lifted boats from the water. There were other reports of in the Pacific Ocean.

closed for the remainder of Wednesday afternoon and will reopen on Friday, January 22. Schools in the and  areas were also closed yesterday.

In other areas of Los Angeles, the rain caused minor flooding and large puddles – storm drains overflowed. This storm hit strong from about 15:00 (2300 ) to about 16:30 PST (0030 UTC) Wednesday. It started again rather powerfully at about 17:10 PST (0110 UTC).

A Southern California resident preferring to remain unnamed said this in regards to the storm, "I felt that it was a wonderful change from the super hot weather," in reference to the 26 °C (80 °F) plus temperatures leading into winter.


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IPCC claims about Himalayan glaciers were not based on science

January 22, 2010

Part of a major 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which claimed that the glaciers in the were likely to melt within thirty years, has been found to have not been based on scientific data.

The IPCC, a United Nations panel, admitted that the original claim was "poorly substantiated" and that "well-established standards of evidence were not applied properly" in the preparation of this section of the report. "The chair, vice-chairs, and co-chairs of the IPCC regrets the poor application of IPCC procedures", read a statement released by the panel. News reports have suggested that the claim originated in a 1999 article in the popular science magazine , and was picked up by the IPCC when it was quoted in a 2005 report by the World Wildlife Fund.

, India's minister of, had criticized the estimate when the report was initially released. After the announcement, Ramesh reiterated his criticism and told : "The health of the glaciers is a cause of grave concern, but the IPCC's alarmist position that they would melt by 2035 was not based on an iota of scientific evidence."

According to  (UK), most glaciologists believe it would take hundreds of years to melt the Himalayan glaciers, with some doubting that it will ever happen. There is evidence of glaciers growing in the neighboring mountain range.

Michael Zemp, of the told CNN that, "There are simply no observations available to make these sorts of statements."

"The other thing is that the report says the glaciers are receding faster than anywhere else in the world. We simply do not have the glacier change measurements. The Himalayas are among those regions with the fewest available data", Zemp added.

Nevertheless, the IPCC maintains that the melting of the glaciers is a concern to the region, which is home to over one billion people. It stands by its overall conclusion that "mass losses from glaciers and reductions in snow cover over recent decades are projected to accelerate throughout the 21st century, reducing water availability, hydropower potential, and changing seasonality of flows in regions supplied by meltwater from major mountain ranges."

The IPCC had recently come under fire during the, when selectively leaked , hacked from the , reportedly showed that some scientists were attempting to suppress findings by other climatologists that did not agree with their own findings.


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Slant?

 * There's a bit of a weird slant in this article -
 * A 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which claimed that the glaciers in the Himalayas were likely to melt within thirty years, was at least in part not based on scientific data
 * ...if you hadn't seen the story before, you'd assume the IPCC published a now-discredited report entitled something like "Future Prospects for the Himalayas to 2050. It's not unless you follow through to the sources that it becomes clear it's a section of a larger document, the bulk of which is tangential to the story. The article refers to "the report" throughout, describing people as making general criticisms of it, but makes no distinction between the reporting of a single claim, and the report, a thousand-page document, as a whole.
 * As a result, I don't think we're accurately representing the people quoted, and the situation as a whole. For example, we say Ramesh originally "criticised the report"; according to the AP, he criticised "the panel's initial assessment of the Himalayan glaciers", and his position on the remainder of the report is unstated. The IPCC statement is particularly odd; they say:
 * a paragraph in the 938-page Working Group II contribution to the underlying assessment refers to poorly substantiated estimates of rate of recession and date for the disappearance of Himalayan glaciers. In drafting the paragraph in question, the clear and well-established standards of evidence, required by the IPCC procedures, were not applied properly.
 * and we quote two sections, missing out their caveats such as "the paragraph in question", and transferring a criticism of the source to a criticism of the report:
 * The IPCC, a United Nations panel, admitted that the report was "poorly substantiated" and that "well-established standards of evidence were not applied properly" in the preparation of the report.
 * I'm really not convinced we're presenting the facts of the case straightforwardly here. Shimgray (talk) 09:28, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

 * I've made some alterations - emphasising "claim" over "report", to try to bring out the difference between the comment under debate and the report irself - but there's still a few worrying issues. Looking at the sources, it feels cherry-picked - we quote Zemp as being quite negative, for example, whilst the CNN story was careful to include him saying that he felt the glaciers were good indicators for change. Shimgray (talk) 09:59, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * This, you might note, was the point I was trying to make above. The "story" is manufactured and manipulated by right-wing media and, I'm afraid, people here have fallen for it. The news - if you can call it that - is that one line on one page in a huge report was alarmist. Why do you think this sat unreviewed for so long? --Brian McNeil / talk 10:31, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Mmmm. I've made some more extensive changes, trying to replace direct-but-misleading quotes with a broader synthesis, and added context as to what the claim was. I haven't put anything in about the "it was originally a typo for 2350" suggestion, as I'm not sure how much that's just hypothesis. The remaining problem now, I think, is the title - it's not strictly speaking inaccurate, but it does seem a bit... pointed. Shimgray (talk) 11:38, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Share via Facebook
Hi There

the Share via facebook link gives a description for a completely different story with this headline...is this a bug?
 * Its picking a line out of the related articles. Facebook (not us) chooses what they take as an excerpt, so it is more a bug on their end (but the end result is bad for us). Bawolff ☺☻ 23:32, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Unsighted edits
I have noticed that this article has been significantly altered from what I submitted for review ... that's perfectly fine, this is a collaborative site after all. I do find it weird that many of these edits have gone unsighted for many hours. The edits are so substantial that I question whether they were based on the listed sources, but I haven't the time to verify. But why no sighting? Was interest lost? --SVTCobra 03:02, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I saw it sitting waiting for a re-review, I avoided it because the items added were, I felt, something needing addressed by you. I tried to point out above that the crap about the emails was just that, crap; I tried to highlight that there was a certain media "spin" being put on this story. How much of a kerfuffle would there have been if I'd edited in and sighted what I thought were reasonable additions? Please, start looking a lot more critically at the sources you read; look beyond the headlines and you will see a lot more "Ministry of Disinformation" pronouncements telling you what to be afraid of, or what to be angry about. If I pop the tinfoil hat on, well, this is a missive from the people who, like Sarah Palin, want floodlit night jetskiing and steaks cooked over an electric grill on the patio, with the heaters on, in sub-zero temperatures.
 * Now, if there's nothing pressing demanding my attention, I'll get back to my more-than-twenty-year-old-mission to have the UK's first female Prime Minister burned at the stake. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:10, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


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My OR is all after the quote by Beck minus the bit about the mountains. I am gathering this by looking out the window and I have an interview question waiting for a reply and will be sent to Scoop. — The New  Mikemoral  ♪♫ 00:31, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

 * I have seen the email and can tentatively confirm, although I would be happier if the original was left untouched with a note not to take the name outside of Scoop. Doesn't really matter, though; we trust you anyway. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:37, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

 * I'll note that for the future. -- The New  Mikemoral  ♪♫ 23:26, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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"The third storm since Monday in the Los Angeles County, California area has caused reasons for residents in burn areas caused by last summer's fires." This sentence does not make sense. Condensed, it reads: "Storm has caused reason for residents caused by fires" --SVTCobra 01:33, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Will rewrite that. -- The New  Mikemoral  ♪♫ 01:34, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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The selected quotes seem strange ... they are addressing the reader directly ... I guess this could be helpful if the audience was in the affected area, but Wikinews should keep a wider audience in mind. Those quotes could be summarized with a "residents are advised to ..."-type of paragraph. (also note the use of "yesterday" which may no longer apply. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:49, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

 * ✅ Removed mayor's quote and switched to past tense. -- The New  Mikemoral  ♪♫ 02:06, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


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Russian journalist beaten by police officer dies

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A middle-aged Russian journalist in Tomsk, Siberia, died Wednesday. He succumbed to injuries suffered when a young police officer allegedly beat him into a coma earlier in the month while in a holding cell reserved for the drunk and disorderly. The injuries included severe damage to many of his internal organs.

Authorities identified this little-known reporter who specialized in economics as Konstantin Popov. Popov was one of the cofounders of a small regional newspaper publisher and a local magazine called Tema. In a country where police brutality and corruption—especially against journalists—is not uncommon, the editor-in-chief of Tema, Konstantin Karpachyov, said it was unlikely Popov's murder was in any way related to his work. However, Karpachyov went on to say that, "This could happen to absolutely anyone. It demonstrates the police terror is aimed against everybody."

"The only thing different about this case is that he happened to be a journalist, so it became a high-profile public case. But the same thing happens every day," said Svetlana Gannushkina, of Russia's Civic Assistance committee. "Usually the cases are just closed down because there's no evidence, nobody testifies, and it's impossible to get to the bottom of it."

Upon learning Popov's identity, numerous members of the state-controlled media strongly criticized the police for their passive response to the actions allegedly committed by one of their own. Following which, news conferences were called, and before long Popov's case began to draw national attention.

This resulted in the holding cell where Popov's beating occurred being closed down. In addition, the deputy police chief resigned as well as supervisor of the precinct in question. The Tomsk police chief apologized. The suspected officer, Alexei Mitayev, was dismissed from the force, arrested, and is said to have since confessed to this crime. Mitayev cited that "stress due to family problems" is what led to his actions against Popov.

The chairman of the Tomsk branch of the Union of Journalists of Russia said that a source close to the investigation told him that Popov was not only beaten but was also "tortured" and "violated" with a foreign object.

"Hands off journalists!" the journalist union said in a statement on its website. According to the United States-based Committee to Protect Journalists, as far as they know, "since 2000, at least seventeen Russian journalists have been killed due to their work, and the killers have been convicted in only one case."

President Dmitry Medvedev said that such police misconduct was not only angering the Russian public, but was also undermining the state's authority. He called for comprehensive reform and ordered the Interior Ministry to cut its staff by one-fifth by 2012.


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George, why not simply write something where nudity is appropriate? Actually, ignore that, you think all the news is appropriate since all you can do is look at the pictures. Don't worry, cuddletime is soon. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:09, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
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