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Comments:Deadly quake hits southwestern Pakistan

I looked for this bit of news, and what it brings is not so bad in terms of actuality, but i would like to see a more geological approach and context to such (earthquake) articles, perhaps it's a bit apocalyptic, however it's the information i come looking for, the relevance of the occurence, wether it's standard for the region, how it relates to the quake in 2006 geologically, how many stations in the area register(ed) what, etc. On al jazeera i read there are complaints about the government reaction, rather predictable this early, yet this is an area of pakistan i would think is rather populated, it would be interesting to know in what way the pakistani regions are actually prepared for what kind of earthquakes, (and how often..).80.57.67.243 20:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

fuck em', the pakistani government dont ever help there own people when their has been a disaster such as earthquakes or landslides so why should we use our resources to help a country that clearly doesnt want it, yeah, ok, the people need the help but thats the job of their government and if they then ask for help then they should get it but until their gevernment starts to help i dnt think that we should.


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Former U.S. President Clinton stumps for Obama, Franken in Minneapolis

Speaking to about 4000 people at the Minneapolis Convention Center Thursday night, former U.S. President Bill Clinton gave a speech exhorting audience members to support U.S. Presidential Candidate Barack Obama and Minnesota senatorial candidate Al Franken in the upcoming election on Nov. 4. "Barack Obama can lead us in changing the way Americans think about America, the role of government and the way we work together," Clinton said, according to the Associated Press. "We learned the other way is not worth a flip. We've got to work together."

Clinton — whose wife Hillary Clinton ran against Obama for the Democratic nomination earlier this year — has been accused in the past of not fully supporting Obama's presidency. He showed no lack of support for both Obama and Franken with whom he shared the stage. Franken is running against incumbent Republican Norm Coleman and independent candidate Dean Barkley.

According to Clinton, the Minnesota race is crucial. If Franken is elected, Clinton says he will be one more senator to help Obama run the country without major Republican opposition in the Senate. With 60 Democrats in the Senate, Democrats will be able to push legislation through without filibusters by GOP members, which can cause a bill to delay in passing or fail all together.

"[Obama] has a chance to rewrite the 21st century," Clinton said, according to the Star Tribune, referring to the presidency of George W. Bush. "Let's go back and do it right this time. In order to do that, he's going to have to get some votes. ..." in Congress.

The Minnesota race is close. According to the St. Paul Pioneer Press, Sen. Coleman leads Franken 37.3 percent to 35.8 percent in an average of recent polls. 16 percent supported Barkley.

Before introducing Clinton, Franken thanked him for the support of him and his wife.

"I am privileged to say the Clintons are my friends," Franken said, according to the Star Tribune. "But more important, they are friends of the middle class, of working men and women in this state and this country I'm running to represent."

A Minnesota Public Radio News/University of Minnesota Humphrey Institute poll conducted this week found that 52 percent of likely voters supported Obama, while 41 percent supported GOP candidate John McCain. Clinton — who carried the state by a landslide in 1996 — did not hesitate to ask for more votes, telling the crowd: "I want you to do better than that for Barack Obama."

Clinton was the final speaker in a long list of Minnesota Democrats, including: former U.S. Vice President Walter Mondale, the mayors of Minneapolis and Saint Paul, R. T. Rybak and Chris Coleman, U.S. Senator Amy Klobuchar, U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison, Speaker of the Minnesota House of Representatives Margaret Anderson Kelliher. Mayor Coleman is not related to Senator Coleman, who also served as mayor of Saint Paul.

All of the speakers touched on continuing to work toward electing Obama, Franken and other Democrats to Minnesota seats in congress. Even with the 11-point lead Obama holds in the MPR poll, Obama campaign staff circulated the hall at the beginning on the rally and at the end asking attendees to volunteer their time going door-to-door and making phone calls to registered Democrats.

"Barack Obama is going to be the next president of the United States," Mayor Coleman said, according to the Associated Press. "But we've got to work to make it happen."


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I was there. Took a lot of pictures. Will be uploading those soon. I'm relying on memory backed up by reports by the AP/local newspapers/tv stations. —Calebrw (talk) 05:18, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Done all I can for the night. Could use some help before it's ready to be reviewed. Thanks, —Calebrw (talk) 06:49, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Review
misuse of extolling, use exhorting please. 142.31.168.61 16:34, 31 October 2008 (UTC) Ron Gillmore
 * I sighted the review that corrected this. Sorry about that. —Calebrw (talk) 17:56, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Headline: Doesn't everyone know who Bill Clinton is?
Surely the headline should just say "Bill Clinton stumps..." instead of "Former US President Clinton stumps..."? After all, if some reader doesn't know who Bill Clinton is, it's quite unlikely that they'll know who "Franken" is. So if the headline has to identify Clinton in this extended and overprecise way, then shouldn't it say "...stumps for current US Presidential candidate Obama, current US Senate candidate from Minnesota Franken in current US city Minneapolis, current US state Minnesota, current nation United States of America"? I would change it myself (to the short version with "Bill Clinton"), except that (a) I'm not sure of Wikinews norms, and (b) it looks like changing a headline moves the article, which is more than I want to deal with doing right now. But I do think this headline is silly and should be changed. --current US reader Jed (Wikipedia username elysdir; no Wikinews account) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.175.216 (talk) 16:37, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Good point, but no time to change at the present. —Calebrw (talk) 17:57, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Article layout in a nutshell

Wikinews articles follow a fairly strict structure designed to maintain a news style. Details and intricacies can be found in the style guide, but this essay is a guide to getting your first article on the road to publication and a place on the front page.

 * Note: News moves quickly and requires time invested up-front to construct a basic story. An article has to be written, and any problems with it resolved, in time to be published while it's still fresh — otherwise, it will go stale and be deleted.  Occasionally, even the most experienced news hands here lose an article that way; so if it does happen to you, you're in good company.

 * Single sentence news items are not likely to attract sufficient attention to avoid deletion as incomplete and stale.

The three primary elements of a Wikinews article are the date stamp, the body of the story, and the sources section. The easiest way to get these in your article is to use one of the boxes for starting an article, such as the one on the Main Page. This will put in the all-important date template, add a section for your sources, and leave you ready to start writing. Don't touch the date template, just ignore the odd looking code in it — this gets converted to today's date when you save the article. Leave a blank line after the template and start writing, aim for at least 100 words on the story and don't copy from where you first saw the story. The only items you can copy from a source are quotes, for example you could write:

According to Reuters, President Beeblebrox said, "I love this ship so much I think I'm going to have to steal it."

In this way you're saying who got the quote and giving its text in quotation marks.

Entering your title
Keep the title short, but informative when filling in the box to start an article. Wikinews style for titles is all lowercase except the first letter and any proper nouns. So, "Beeblebrox steals revolutionary spaceship at launch" is correct, do not use "Beeblebrox Steals Revolutionary Spaceship at Launch".

Cite your sources
In the edit box for your article there is a heading "== Sources ==". Underneath this you must detail where you obtained your information. This is done with the source template, which can be inserted by clicking on the * link in the editing page. You will need to fill in the template with the web address of the story, the title, the author, publisher, and the date of publication. (To fill in, type or paste the information after the = symbol, and before the next | symbol.)

Always aim for at least two sources. This means you are much less likely to get into problems with copyright, and you have confirmation of the story from two places. Beware! When news agencies like Reuters or the Associated Press release a story many sites will list it. Watch out for picking two sources that say the article was written by AP.

Answer the 5Ws and H
The first paragraph of your article should do its best to answer Who, Where, When, Why, What, and How. This is where you are "selling" the article to the reader and trying to persuade them to read the whole thing.

Follow through with the details
Once you've got your opening paragraph in place you may want at least another two paragraphs to flesh out the story and provide the details. Try to write two or three sentence paragraphs in preference to single sentence paragraphs; keep the sentences short for clarity, and check your spelling.

In general, a news article makes broader statements at the start, and becomes more specific further in. The last paragraphs are often 'backgrounder' information, to help the reader understand the context of the story.

What have you now got?
Your article should now look something like the following:

Today things went spectacularly wrong at the launch of the new spaceship, Heart of Gold. Inaugurating the vessel in front of a crowd of press and VIPs, Galactic President Zaphod Beeblebrox caused uproar when he stole the Infinite Improbability Drive prototype.

President Beeblebrox said, "I love this ship so much I think I'm going to have to steal it." Initially taken as one of the colourful president's wild remarks he followed through by lobbing a stun grenade into the crowd and making off with the ship.

Analysts are mystified at Beeblebrox's motives; an arrest warrant has been issued for the president and his companion. Concern has been expressed that with the revolutionary new drive in the Heart of Gold it will be impossible to locate and detain the fugitive leader.

Points to note

 * The date template will be completed when you save.
 * haveyoursay puts an invitation to comment after your story.
 * Blank lines separate paragraphs.
 * There are no spaces between the source templates — this is for technical reasons.
 * You should have read both sources before you start writing.

Now might be a good time to save your story; there is more to be done, but these are the most essential details.

"Polishing" your article
The above example is pretty bare-bones and would not be published as-is because there are a few more points to consider.

Article stages
What you have now is an article in development. To make this clear to others on Wikinews add the develop template at the bottom. You can then work on all the following points to improve it. When you're happy with what you've got remove the develop template and put review at the top after the date template. This will prompt an uninvolved editor to review and check it, they will put a review template on the talk page and publish it if everything is okay. This means they'll remove the review template and put publish after the sources.

Do not try to go straight to publish! Technical measures stop unreviewed articles appearing on the main page and when your article is not properly categorised it may be overlooked, lost, and then deleted when it is too old to still be classed as news. (Wikinews axiom: Facts don't cease to be facts, but news ceases to be news.)

Categories
News is organised into categories, and you have to add these per the style guide. For the above story the most obvious is Category:Crime and law, so at the very bottom add

You should also have a geographic category. In this case it would be the country where the crime took place, say Category:United States, as well as continent Category:North America, and possibly state Category:Alabama.

Wikilinks
As a sister project to Wikipedia, Wikinews can link to their articles as a source of further information. In this case, they have an article on the Heart of Gold, Heart of Gold (spaceship). This looks pretty ugly in the middle of the article so instead you'd put the following:

The text after the second "|" is what will appear in the article, thus:. The "w" names a template; it means the article should be found on Wikipedia if it doesn't exist on Wikinews. If you forget to use the w and instead use a wikilink, Heart of Gold, the software will try to link to a local article (which, in this case, doesn't exist). Besides Wikipedia, there are several other useful sister projects that can be linked to this way, by adding another parameter | sister=project | to the template, such as for Wiktionary, an online wiki dictionary. Another choice would be "sister=s", for Wikisource, an online library for public domain works. A complete list of wikilink shortcuts can be found here.

Sometimes you will want local links; after all, this is a news site. Don't worry; just use w. If the target page exists locally on Wikinews, w will link to the local page. For example, Mumbai produces:.

"Decorating" your article
If you look around Wikinews, particularly at the articles up in lead positions, you will see a variety of visual elements used to break up the text and make the article more appealing. These range from the informational boxes down the right to images and pulled quotes.

Adding images
Suitable images from Wikimedia Commons can be added to the article using this notation:

This appears as shown in the left side of this section.

A good place to put this would be the blank line after the date template and before the first paragraph. Don't insert another blank line or you will end up with odd whitespace around the article. This generally applies to all decorations — they replace blank lines between paragraphs.

Where you have a long article and several images you can change the "left" to "right" on some to balance up the article and avoid a lop-sided looking appearance.

Note the image credit template embedded within the link for the picture. Wikinews has an unwritten rule about trying to credit the source for any images we use. On the leads on the main page this is a link to the image page on Commons; within articles this is generally the name of the uploader, but if they have a user page listing a real name, that should be used.

Information boxes
Wikinews has loads of what are called "Infoboxes", you can find many of them at WN:IB (see Category:Infoboxes for a more complete list, including country and state infoboxes) and a quick browse through the list there will allow you to see that you can guess at the names of many with a fair degree of accuracy.

The most common infoboxes are for a country, topic, or major issue that remains in the news for some time. For the example article above you might want to use Crime and law (click the link to see the template). Like images, these go in blank lines between paragraphs. For a short story you want to insert it at the top after the date, but long articles can look good if the first paragraph is full width and the infobox is alongside the second and subsequent paragraphs.

Pull-quotes
The two templates QuoteLeft and QuoteRight are another decoration that can highlight some aspect of the story you are telling.

When you use these templates always make sure the text you're quoting from the article is actually in the article! Don't lift a quote from a source that is otherwise unused and add it in one of these templates.

To get the example shown in this section you would use the following syntax:

Provocative comments questions
The haveyoursay template gives a handy link to the Wikinews Comments page, but it is rather boring and pedestrian. This is where HYS question left and HYS question right come into play; you can prompt discussion by asking a mildly provocative question aimed at getting people's opinions on the subject of the story.

If you add one of these templates, be sure to remove haveyoursay from the article so there is only one link on the page to the comments page. The two "HYS" templates are also smart enough to work out when comments have already been left. A link "Add comment" will be shown when there are no comments; when comments have been added a second link to view existing comments is provided.

The code to put in the HYS question box is as follows:

When it starts to go wrong
If your article doesn't meet some of the project guidelines you may end up with a warning template on it. Do not let this be too discouraging; read whatever guideline is highlighted and check the article's talk page (the "collaboration" tab at the top of the screen). There is no conspiracy to kill your article as our contributors want to see as many well-written articles on the front page as possible.

Conclusion
The above should show that it is relatively simple to put together a basic Wikinews article. Do not editorialise, and try to remain neutral. Wikinews is not a blog and does not have an opinion on the news it reports on.

Lastly, remember you are writing for a truly international audience. Don't assume people will, from a title or place name, recognise which country a story is about; there are multiple Presidents, Prime Ministers, and place names can be confusingly ambiguous.

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Why are our governments like little children? Everyday all you read is Bombing Bombing Bombing. Just grow up people seriously, when has any bomb ever fixed anything? Just ppl who dunno how to use an even more advanced tool, their brain.


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This is intended to be a faster way of getting people started than throwing hello at them with swathes of policy and stuff to read. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:03, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Here's my thoughts on what else should maybe be worked in here:

Bawolff ☺☻ 22:29, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The quick wikipedia link trick:  gets auto-converted to   on save.
 * A link to further information on editing syntax. (Either meta:Help:Editor, or mw:Help:Formatting)
 * The section on categories should be expanded a bit. (Really we need a better system for telling people what categories exist)

It seems to me that it is rapidly becoming larger and the 'nutshell' moniker becomes less useful. This nutshell is beginning to overlap with the style guide. --SVTCobra 01:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I just reread the current version, and I think it is at the length limit of what most people will read. Bawolff's suggestion about about using things like the bar and closing square brackets for auto-completion of a WP link strikes me as something that should be in a Tips and tricks essay; anyone have other ideas what should be in something like that? --Brian McNeil / talk 12:11, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Good idea. I'd suggest cluing people into the fact that other interwiki links exist, not just w: (ie wikt:). Gopher65talk 12:45, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Example of a newstory
As a newswriter in real life, but not someone who is regularly involved in the editing of Wikipedia material, I found this an incredibly laborious read. Despite sifting through difficult texts daily, the layout of this guide made it really challenging for me to understand.

My point however was the news story is really poorly written, and maybe not the best example for someone starting out (for example the semi colon is incorrectly used). I may take a stab at writing one for the site, but I think this guide could really be rewritten to increase the number of users writing news for wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.246.129.247 (talk) 14:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Just to note, this is Wikinews, we are a completely different project from Wikipedia. Although i agree, some of these policy pages are somewhat poorly written and could do with a substantial rewrite... Tempodivalse [talk]  15:22, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Beeblebrox
Do we need to hear so much about Beeblebrox? :P —  Kudu ~I/O~ 23:34, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

 * Why is the grammar so bad? Should the writing be so colloquial? e.g. "... he followed through by lobbing a stun grenade into the crowd and making off with the ship." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Reactor factor (talk • contribs) 23:19, 13 November 2011
 * I take it you've not read the original Guide? --Brian McNeil / talk 01:19, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Qatari Virus Outbreak
As of 16/2/2023 the Qatari Government has announced a country wide lockdown due to a virus that spread from nepal, this has been classified as a sub virus to the Corona Virus and has serious effects on the brain causing people to act like zombies.

So far this has taken the lives of 693 people and the United Nations has organised a emergency meeting to find ways to neutralize thos threat. John Jamason (talk) 13:12, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

 * This is the wrong place for this. Either start an article or request an article. Please provide two or more independent sources. Thanks, SVTCobra 13:17, 16 February 2023 (UTC)


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Sprint Nextel depeers from Cogent Communications

October 31, 2008 On October 30th Sprint Nextel severed their network connection with Cogent Communications, according to a statement from Cogent. As a result, it is impossible for most Sprint and Cogent customers to communicate directly between each other across the Internet. The actual reasons for the dispute are unknown, though Cogent has had similar disputes in the past with Level3, Telia, Limelight, France Telecom, and AOL. The two ISPs are currently in litigation over peering, the free exchange of traffic between the ISPs for little or no cost. In shutting down the peering, according to Cogent, Sprint is in violation of a contractual obligation to exchange Internet traffic. However, according to Sprint, Cogent has failed to meet its criteria for the peering agreement, and should be required to pay for the traffic, which Cogent refused to do.

The de-peering has resulted in some customers of both companies experiencing dropped connections. However, most consumer ISPs and college networks are "multihomed", and thus could connect through separate lines to both companies.


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Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here are some pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome!--PatrickFlaherty (talk) 16:26, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
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 * Good work so far on Sprint Nextel depeers from Cogent Communications. If you are done editing the article, please replace develop with review and somebody should come along and review the article. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 16:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

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Comments:Former U.S. President Clinton stumps for Obama, Franken in Minneapolis

Obama
The clinton's did not have this much help when they were in the oval office. It does not suprise me Bill Clinton is helping Obama. That tells me that Obama must have some hidden secrets in which I am sure they will surface very soon.

McCain/Palin

Seems kind of pointless because everyone that went to the convention center to see Clinton was already going to vote Obama anyway. No McCain voters would have went there and so It was a big wast of time and money.
 * According to press reports, there was at least one McCain supporter there. ;) —Calebrw (talk) 17:59, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Liberals, all you liberals, want to feel good. You think deep down that everyone has evil in their soul. You think the government will save you from the evil of man. Because you don’t believe in God, who is the only one who can save you from evil, and not in this life. Question: Who will save you from government? Liberals think that limiting the rights of our fellow man are what’s needed. What they don’t understand is that Conservatives limit their own behavior by choice. We show restraint. Liberals live to excess and cannot understand that choices and good behavior come from within each of us. And collectively that makes a difference. They do not understand the power of forgiveness. They mostly come from single parent families where the parents were so selfish they were not willing to put aside their own petty wants for the needs of the child. The child sees people fighting to get what they want, and learns. The child sees relationships as disposable, and learns. The child believes in what is on the television, and learns.

Your liberal world is an idealistic dream that only exists in your mind. This is reality. People like Obama get people killed. Look what Clinton did in Mogadishu? Somalia? Failures. As much as you hate to admit it, Iraq is a success.

These are facts. You will not use facts to argue with me. You will attack me personally and call me names. It doesn’t bother me. People see your childishness. You will never grow up. You will always be a child hoping for your parents to live together in harmony. In order to find peace you must find a church and surrender your soul to Christ. Let him carry your burdens. Have faith in his love and in the goodness of others.

There you will find salvation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.214.175.130 (talk) 17:52, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

 * I can't find a single true statement in your entire rant there. 65.1.135.117 18:07, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

The Temple of Ann Coulter
I've got news for you, I'm not a liberal, I'm a socialist and proud of it. The "fend for yourself" attitude espoused by Republicans like yourself is repugnant. Go worship at the temple of Ann Coulter, she believes it is your god given right to destroy the planet whereas people like myself believe in sharing responsibility. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

 * You and 166.214.175.130 are both wrong. The only right way of thinking is my way of thinking. Why would I subscribe to your way (either of you), when I know that I am right? Stop worshipping at your temples of Christ and Socialism, and conform to the beliefs that I hold. --SVTCobra 01:51, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Cobra... Commander? 65.1.135.117 06:59, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note I don't capitalise "god"... When it comes to religion I would describe myself as a non-theistic Buddhist. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:35, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Republicans
Since Republicans don't believe there's any value in government, why let them run it? Cheney, Bush -- talk about "failures". 199.102.9.66 19:25, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

The Clinton's
Loyal too the party not their Country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.21.217 (talk) 17:00, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Now that is just disappointing to read. Clinton was the only real successful president in the last 20 years but somehow you throw that away in your thoughts? The Bush administration may or may not be able to be forgiven by history, but you advocating for fools to continue to fail are risking dooming us all before history has a chance. 65.1.135.117 17:25, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Synchronised bombings strike Indian state of Assam

I'm getting really sick of this shit.

 * Me too. There will be, I hope I'm wrong, another backlash by cowardly Hindu nationalists. They are NOTHING but the SCUM of this Earth. I hope Muslims will realise to stand strong together as they have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ATTACKS. If India attacks Pakistan, and it is clear that Pakistan is innocent in this, then the cowardice of India will truly show. Find a stereotype and take your anger out on innocents, they say. The primitive mind of Hindu nationalists always astounds me. "Islolate, detroy, eliminate" were the words of Hitler; shame that India is adopting this theology. The people who carried out these attacks in Mumbai, are of course, unforgivable - where, you tell me, does the Qu'ran state "kill the innocent"?. Ironically the Nationlists adopt this philosophy themselves (see the connection with primitiveness?). Why not adopt a policy of non-hatred; non-aggression? Isn't that what Ghandi taught? Anyway...hate is bad for you. Litrally. Did you know it causes cancer and blood-pressure to sky rocket? Ghandi was intelligent, and probably recognised the consequences of hate. I only hope Hindu nationalists do not commit the vile and putrid acts that the Nazis had done so. Muslims and Hindus have the SAME ANCESTRY. Wake up people. Stop killing each other! It is not funny. 78.144.177.108 02:07, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


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Wikinews talk:World News Quiz/archive comments

'''This is an archive for previous Wikinews World Quiz comments. Please do not modify it.'''

Other archives can be found at: Wikinews talk:World News Quiz/archive comments 2

Making this challenging
So far so good with the quiz, its actually turned out harder than I expected - based on the scores. Who wants to set the quiz next Sunday? I'd like to be putting up a score then. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:34, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

 * I could do it, though I'd prefer to see several others try first, because I wasn't expecting to be the sole person thus far to get full marks, and I don't want to make it impossible. I daresay lots of people will fancy it, and I can wait but if not, I'll take it willingly. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:43, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * How about 10 - 15 questions, relativley easy, but only if you've been keeping up with the news, and updated every Sunday. Thunderhead - (talk) 22:51, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * My idea was 7 questions, taken from one story of each day over the past week. I didn't totally manage that for the current quiz as I was busy/distracted, so I think I've a couple of questions from the same day. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:19, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've finished a quiz for Sunday. Celticfan383 11:08, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I prefer 10 questions, because it gives a score on 10. I think 1 sports story is max, plus stories on ignored topics (Africa!) should get priority. It's also nice to have some images, I believe. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * We should put as many images in as possible, it makes it look a lot better. TheFearow 21:44, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I think the author of this quiz is doing a good job at balancing making it challenging with making it realistic --Anonymous101 19:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks again, the only thing that would be nice would be if others contributed to the quiz as well so that I'm not the only one this is relying upon. I know others have supported this quiz in the past but I think we should take turns more frequently. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Other langs
Have any of the other language Wikinews sites picked this up yet? --Brian McNeil / talk 08:55, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Just to go further on this, the extension wasn't on all languages - I got a query from de and grabbed Brion in IRC to fix that. There is a translated version of our quiz (this week's) on the German Wikinews. I also notice a couple of de. contributors posting scores. :)
 * Oh, and who's on the case for this Sunday? --Brian McNeil / talk 07:15, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I prepared something which User:Ironiridis will hopefully finish. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 09:55, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Check the interwiki on the project page, es.wikinews has put up a quiz. :D --Brian McNeil / talk 14:43, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * As it seems, it.wikinews had already put up a quiz, though hadn't linked from here. Already added 'it' interwiki. Regards, Jurock (reply here) 15:45, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

From the looks of things the Germans are currently just translating our quiz and adding their articles where they have them. This means when you get to their answers page you have even more articles than ours. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:10, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Auto-updating
Hey,

I developed a system using the time parserfunc so we can prepare weekly quizes on subpages and make it auto update when necessary. See Dynamic quiz. It uses the week num, so old quizes are archived, can still be taken, and can be prepared infinitely in advance. What do you think? TheFearow 22:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Its cool, but It should just be like a 10 question quiz that you update each week. 10 questions are cooler.Flubeca
 * I'll update to 10Q then. TheFearow 04:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I put in this weeks/last weeks, and am working on one for next week. Who thinks we should update for this new format, that makes it archive and auto update, and easy to prepare for the next week. TheFearow 21:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

If the problem is that updating on monday, then why dont we update the quiz on monday! Not too hard to change. Why don't we use this new system? TheFearow | userpage|contribs 23:08, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The idea is to have a quiz on Sunday to review the news of the past week... on monday, a new week starts. No need to adapt the original idea to an auto-updating system that doesn't fit it. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I dont get whats wrong with monday - then we can include news from every day of the last week, including sunday. Monday is the start of the week in the time the server uses. TheFearow | userpage|contribs 23:02, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Sunday is a day of relaxation for much of the world. A time to do pointless, but pleasing, things like the quiz. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Using #time, its fairly easy to make it change on any day of the week. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm using the week number from time - if you want to update it to make it use sunday, feel free. Matt | userpage|contribs 23:53, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes that would be a good consensus, don't know how to do it myself so please implement Bawolff's idea. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:08, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll do that tomorrow. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:20, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

should be right. Bawolff ☺☻ 14:37, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, this will auto-change every sunday. If there is no quiz for a week, it will display last weeks and yell and scream at you. Bawolff ☺☻ 14:57, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

 * I tweaked it some. Using, without a time/date to use, causes it to use the date and time that the current page was last converted into xhtml which can be way off due to caching. Using relative dates/time without any date/time present causes it to be relative to that date/time, rather then using the current date/time. This was noticeable to a Wikinewie when logged out. --dark  lama  21:52, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Easy addition of scores
Does this look interesting? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Simple_Forms#SimpleForms_Usage_Examples or is it risking more problems using this with the quiz extension? --Brian McNeil / talk 08:22, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The quiz extension is for quizes, this probably wouldnt work that well, as it would require a lot more work. I think we should stick with the Quiz extension for now. TheFearow | userpage|contribs 21:15, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm with Fearow on his one, I think, but that's getting a touch out of my depth... Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:36, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

My thinking was that with this extension we could have a form displayed when you submit your answers that allows you to input your score and auto-adds it to the talk page. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:19, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Registered users can now do that with a gadget in preferences. It may still have some bugs but I will try it next week. --User:Anonymous101 09:30, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Problem
The current method of linking to the version of the quiz under the scores section may not work well. If we're going to use week numbers then it needs to link to that. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:51, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Answer to question should be re-worded
Under the question "Which of the following statements about the doping case against Floyd Landis is not true?", it says that the correct answer was "The cyclist "might" be stripped of his title of Tour de France 2007 winner". In the article it says in the first sentence, "2006 Tour de France champion Floyd Landis "will" be stripped of his title after test results revealed, Friday, the cyclist used synthetic testosterone during the competition." Some people may think the word "might" and "will" as the same meaning. I suggest, along with Nzgabriel, that this should be re-worded.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 02:08, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * On further research I have now noticed it says in the question about the 2007 Tour de France. Landis 'won' the 2006 title. (unsigned in Nzgabriel). 125.236.183.151 07:55, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

quite tough
8/10 . i found the world quiz quite tough .i enjoyed participating.i look forward to more new quizzes.
 * You may have found it tough, but you got a pretty good score. The quiz goes up sometime on a Sunday, although if we end up waiting on someone from the U.S. doing the last couple of questions it can be kinda late. Oh, and there's a scores section on the page, you edit that section and add * x/10 (comment if any) ~ . --Brian McNeil / talk 10:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Awesome!
This is the greatest thing ever! I love it!
 * Great! If you go back to the project page you'll see there's versions in German, Italian, and Spanish. We've had pretty much all positive feedback for the quiz, so... see you next Sunday? --Brian McNeil / talk 10:31, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Not updated
I knew this would happen, we get a great new feature and then after a few weeks, no one can be bothered updating this. This is a terrible sign why Wikinews may, in the future, fail. Becaue no one can no longer be bothered. 202.124.104.19 20:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but we've had a few big problems lately and we have been very busy. You could update it if you want, or one of us should get around to it soon. Matt/TheFearow | userpage|contribs 20:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No, some of us actually have real lives and cannot always update the quiz. I was busy and there are users like Brianmc who have been updating the quiz every week. There are users that are willing to update, in fact, I will ask them to update this Sunday's quiz. If you are complaining, then you should update it.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 21:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Great initiative
I was just notified of this by Brian McNeil the other day - I just wanted to say that I think this is a great initiative. I'm active on Wikiversity, so it's a big buzz to see something developed for there modified in such a cool way. Unfortunately, I gave up about a third way through this week's quiz, as I haven't been following much news this week. All the best, Cormaggio 20:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, there's a link to this page from v:Quiz - any ideas how to make the links better on this interwiki project? Cormaggio 20:59, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Glad you at least had a go Cormaggio, we're really pleased to have the quiz extension. It is a natural addition to a news site - a form of positive reinforcement that if you know what's going on you'll do well. The extension could probably do with some way to automatically post the score on talk or a sub-page, but as it is we get a lot of people prepared to 'fess up' to doing badly in the quiz. It helps make us see each other more as human beings and work together better. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:14, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Border of Turkey and Iraq.
''U.S. President Bush promised Turkish Prime Minister Erdoğan support after recent clashes with the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK). Where does Turkey border Iraq?'' This question is quite ambiguous, but Turkey boards Iraq to the Northwest and Iraq boarders Turkey to the Southeast, the questioner got the answers mixed up, I think. Please correct me if I'm wrong. 69.105.97.149 19:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * You're absolutely right, sorry for that, you get a bonus point! --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:05, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Good to know, thanks! :) Blindman shady 23:10, 11 November 2007 (UTC) P.S.:Yes that was me not signed in.
 * I remember that one, if you're using that format again it should really be "Which of Turkey's borders does it share with Iraq?" Turkey's southeastern border is shared with Iraq. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:14, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

washington a city?
"Two computer discs containing the personal data of 25 million U.K. citizens were found out this week to be missing. They were sent from a Revenue & Customs office in what British city?" should be changed to "Two computer discs containing the personal data of 25 million U.K. citizens were found out this week to be missing. where were they sent from?"

meant i got it wrong :( as i knew about Washington being in the uk but im fairly sure its a town

Longer end of year quiz
Sorry Anonymous101, I was working on a quiz of the year in my userspace and didn't realise someone else was doing the same. Mine is longer, and I spent quite a lot of time on it, so I hope you don't mind using it instead. the wub "?!"  16:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Question 49
The PPP is now run jointly between Bilawal Bhutto (son) and Asif Ali Zardari (husband). 84.69.244.23 19:51, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

The quiz has been flagged since October 2007 (link). I'm pretty sure there's no current discussion on the quiz, so can we get the flag removed? Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 04:05, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The flag is automatic and appears when a new quiz is needed --Anonymous101 Talk 18:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I kind of made the current one as a joke, since I have no idea how this is supposed to run. Am I to assume that the quiz is dead? b2xiao talk 19:30, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Please add the hebrew interwiki as follows:
he:ויקיחדשות:בחנו את עצמכם! Thanks, יחסיות האמת (talk) 01:18, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ --SVTCobra 01:31, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

New quiz template
To help facilitate writing quizes, I made a template that i hope makes creating quizes simpler. Basically it removes features that we don't use, and uses template syntax some people might be more familiar with. See Quiz for more information. All comments appreciated. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:16, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

new year
There might be an issue with linking as the year roles over (There's one day where the week is 1, but the year is still 2008). If it hapens, just manually put the right template in, and revert it the week after. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:22, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Sporting questions
The 2 questions concerning sport teams in the New Year quiz both are exclusively American, being an international reader answering a world news quiz, surely the sport questions should be events that are more internationally followed 88.111.87.59 17:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

i got 3 out of 5, last two wrong.114.76.178.32 (talk) 08:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

i got the first and third messages correct. 211.30.146.216 (talk) 10:31, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

2/7114.76.160.89 (talk) 09:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

A 2010 in-review quiz
In the past an extended end-of-year quiz has been set up. About now is when to start thinking about one for this year.

 * Put it up on Boxing Day (Xmas +1), or put it up on New Year's Day?
 * Suppress immediately preceding/following standard quizzes?

Thoughts? Volunteers? --Brian McNeil / talk 08:41, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

New year issue ... again
The quiz indicator in the RC said that it was time to create a new quiz, so I did ... then realised that it doesn't work correctly because of the new year (it's several days early for the new quiz). What's the best way to fix this? Tempodivalse [talk]  03:41, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Little late now, but basically find me and yell at me ;). (Manually change the quiz page to transclude the right quiz temporarily, or make the quiz its trying to include be a redirect to the proper one). Bawolff ☺☻ 17:54, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Interwiki
Hello, can you add the french interwiki : fr:Wikinews:Quiz? Thank you. Moyg (talk) 14:49, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

sr Vikivesti, link
Can you please add Wikilink: sr:Викивести:Квиз информисаности, Thanks László  (talk)  01:40, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Diego Grez return fire 01:43, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

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American prize-winning author Studs Terkel dead at 96

November 1, 2008 Studs Terkel, an American historian, radio talk show host and Pulitzer Prize-winning author, has died at the age of 96. His son, Dan Terkel, said he died peacefully in his Chicago, Illinois home.

"My dad led a long, full, eventful, sometimes tempestuous, but very satisfying life. [His death was] peaceful, no agony. This is what he wanted," said his son in a statement to the press.

Terkel was born in New York City in 1912. He moved to Chicago when he was eight years old. He was mostly known for his oral histories, but he was also host of his own radio show, an author of several books, and an activist.

In 1985, Terkel was awarded the Pulitzer Prize after his writing about World War II in his book called The Good War. In 1970, he published a book about the Great Depression, entitled Hard Times: An Oral History of the Great Depression, which told the stories of people from all walks of life who were affected by the stock market crash in 1929.

In 2007 Terkel published his memoirs, titled Touch and Go, in which he described himself as a "martini and cigar man" who never retired.

"It was those loners — argumentative ones, deceptively quiet ones, the talkers and the walkers — who, always engaged in something outside themselves, unintentionally became my mentors," said Terkel in his memoirs.


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Sighting
don't forget tot manually sight your edits. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:44, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * huh, ok, but when was auto-sighting turned off? --SVTCobra 00:46, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * If I recall correctly, a few weeks ago. It was part of our terms to get into Google News. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:56, 1 November 2008 (UTC)