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"Civil defence" thwarts Israeli air strike on Gaza refugee camp

November 19, 2006

Led by Nizar Rayan, a senior Hamas fighter, hundreds of Palestinian refugees gathered to protect the house of the leader of a militant group in Jabaliya refugee camp in Gaza and succeeded in thwarting an Israeli attack.

As part of their campaign against Palestinian fighters, Israeli forces had warned Mohammedweil Baroud, a commander in the Popular Resistance Committee, that his house would be attacked in 30 minutes time. He was told to take his family out of the house in order to avoid civilian casualties. Instead, he called for help from the local mosque and people swarmed round and over Mr Baroud's house in such numbers as to dissuade the Israelis from making the promised attack.

The Palestinians claimed this to have been the first successful defence of its kind. Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, visiting the house, said that people had been driven to this remedy because the UN had refused to defend them. On Friday, the Security Council vetoed a resolution condemning Israeli military action in Gaza. Nizar Rayan promised "We will pay with our lives to protect the houses of the fighters, so they can resist the enemy, assured their homes are being protected".

On November 8, an Israeli shell killed 19 civilians in Beit Hanoun, due to, what the Israelis called, a "technical fault in targeting".

An Israeli spokesman said that Israeli forces differentiate between innocent people and "terrorists" and that they would continue the attacks.

A Palestinian rocket killed an Israeli woman and seriously wounded a man in the town of Sderot on November 15. Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president has called for a ceasefire by those launching rockets and suicide attacks against Israel and the Palestinian group Islamic Jihad is said to be considering this request carefully. Over 400 Palestinians, including many civilians, have been killed since June by attacks, which Israel says are aimed at Palestinian fighters.


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Bush meets with coup appointed Thai PM

November 19, 2006

According to reports from Agence France-Press (AFP), and Thai newspaper, The Nation, US president George Bush has met with the recently appointed Prime Minister, Surayud Chulanont. The encounter took place at the ongoing Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit in Hanoi.

Surayud, appointed by the leaders of the bloodless September 19 coup, outlined the plans of the government to introduce constitutional reforms and political change. According to AFP there had been suggestions that Bush would not meet with Surayud, but the two shook hands cordially and Bush was said to have described the coup which ousted populist Thaksin Shinawatra as "military intervention".

The US President has been making further use of the opportunities for dialogue at the APEC summit, today saw him catching up with Russian president Vladimir Putin. Discussion was said to include currently in-place sanctions against Russian arms and military aircraft manufacturers.

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ELF Cup kicks off in Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus

November 19, 2006 The football (soccer) tournament ELF Cup (Equality, Liberty, Fraternity Cup) kicked off today at 18:30 (EET) today between Crimea and Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus in Atatürk Stadium, Lefkoşa, TRNC.

Eight teams are participating in the first edition of the ELF Cup, making it the largest New Federations Board tournament ever. NF-Board teams Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, Greenland, Tibet, Zanzibar will be joined by FIFA's Asian Football Confederation sides Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, and non-aligned sides Crimea and Gǎgǎuzia.

The cup is conceived of two groups, with top two teams progressing to the semi-finals. Group A features Gǎgǎuzia, Greenland, Kyrgyzstan, and Zanzibar; while Group B features Crimea, Tajikistan, Tibet and the hosts Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

The event cost the hosts 340,000 YTL, of which they expect to cover half through turnout. Head of Cyprus Turkish Football Federation (Kıbrıs Türk Futbol Federasyonu, KTFF) Niyazi Okutan called for Turkish Cypriots to come and support their national team.


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Iraqi deputy health minister kidnapped

November 19, 2006

Deputy to the Iraq Health Minister, Ammar al-Saffar, who lives with his sister in Baghdad's Sunni neighbourhood of Adhamiya, was kidnapped today.

It is reported that six uniformed men and others wearing suits, arrived at Mr Saffer’s home in police cars and pickup trucks and took him off.

As one of the deputies to the Health Minister, Mr Saffer called earlier this year for as much as $8 Billion to restore Iraq’s health services.

On August 9, 2006, Mr Saffar discussed the health situation in Iraq with the BBC. He said that the insurgents were killing doctors and trying to create a brain drain. 100 doctors had been killed “because they were trying to help people and because they were Shia”. He said that there are about 18,000 doctors in Iraq but many have left, while others practice at home rather than at hospitals where they could be better protected. Under Saddam they were not permitted to leave, now there is no restriction. But now there are cash incentives: under Saddam they earned $2-3 a month, now they can earn up to $500 a month. On security, he said that the people blamed the US for the violence because, although they were responsible for security, they left the borders poorly guarded.

Mr Saffer survived an assassination attempt in June, 2004 when he was fired upon as he left his home. He was uninjured.

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State funeral approved by Canadian House of Commons
Hi, I reverted your change to the title as it was less descriptive. The most important and unique thing about the story should be in the title as it says in the Style guide. On the other hand, I also reverted your rewrite of the article. When articles are published on the main page the text should not change. See the Style guide. It has a lot of handy information that you can use :-) — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  20:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

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hi, thanks for ur style and copyediting efforts. Wikinews articles do frequently fall short in this and am glad to see u taking an interest in tackling it. also, if u have some experience with style guidelines, cld u take a look at ours and propose any changes or additions u think may be needed, on its talk page. thanks, — Doldrums(talk) 06:15, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

some of your images may be added to my eat and delete list
Hi there. I recently noticed you uploaded an image that doesn't follow our Fair use policy, mainly that it doesn't have a source. Note: wikipedia is not a valid source, because the wikipedians have to get it from some where, and they also have different policies as to whats acceptable image use then we do. As well, there is no image under that name at wikipedia. see also WN:IUP and Fair use. If you have any questions or need any help, feel free to ask. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:43, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

The ongoing discussion of grammar in article titles between us.
With most respect, this is the fourth time (Changelog, talk page, talk page again, and now here) I have linked to the Style guide: Style_guide. It clearly states article headlines are to be written in present tense. All other proper headlines are written in present tense, except where this is impossible. But 'die' is always 'dies'. With most respect, I do not care about your professional writing. I've dealt with people on the Wikipedia who have years of professional writing expierience, but because they do not know Wikipedia style, have their edit's reverted. I will not be responding to any more talk page messages, with the exception of an apology. I already feel already by saying I enjoyed and rushed to change the article title. If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it.. Neebs 18:50, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Style
Your title "Canada's Commons OKs State Funerals" was very misleading. It said Canada approved state funerals for the first time. However, Canada had state funerals before. In my title "State funeral for last World War I veteran approved by Canadian House of Commons" said that they approved a state funeral for the last WWI veteran. Your title did not. I have since changed it to "State funeral approved by Canadian House of Commons" to shorten the title while explaining the most important part. Please do take a look at the Style guide for more information. "Remember: Downstyle capitalisation is the preferred style. Only the initial word and proper nouns are capitalized., quoted from the Style guide." — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  20:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Accurizer. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Accurizer~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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Stephen Harper meets with Chinese President Hu Jintao during APEC summit

November 20, 2006

Stephen Harper met with Chinese President Hu Jintao yesterday. The fifteen minute conversation at the APEC summit was not a "very long discussion" and according to Mr. Harper was a "very frank discussion". It occurred just before a gala dinner on Saturday with 21 other world leaders.

Harper raised many issues including the case of Chinese-Canadian, Huseyincan Celil, a Chinese-Canadian who is being held in a China prison for allegedly having links to Muslim separatist extremist groups in his native Xinjiang province. Hu refused the meeting days before due to talks about Harper bringing up China's human rights record. Beijing denied that and said "President Hu Jintao and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper will meet."

"We've had very frank discussions with a wide range of leaders, including although it was not a very long discussion, a very frank discussion with President Hu of China, a distinct impression, if I may say that, that the Chinese aren't used to that from a Canadian government, but I can't speak for them," Harper said at the end of the APEC summit. "I think if you're going to have frank discussions with other leaders, then you know, except obviously for the broad objectives you're trying to pursue, I think the details of those discussions have to be private,"

A Chinese foreign ministry official gave the Canadian media the first details of the meeting. The details were sent by e-mail to Canadian media travelling with him 14 hours later.

"If you run out of private discussions every 10 minutes and give a play-by-play of everything that was said, nobody will have a frank discussion with you," said Harper. "The fact of the matter is that neglecting human rights has not opened a lot of doors either. Obviously we don't think you get anywhere by short changing your values."

"It was quite a brief one," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said.

Harper, 47, on his first trip to Asia, said he "had a good time" at the conference.


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UK soldiers kill rare African animal

November 20, 2006

UK troops in Kenya killed a white rhino after it allegedly charged at them.

The White Rhinoceros* or Square-lipped rhinoceros (Ceratotherium simum) is one of the five species of rhinoceros that still exists and is one of the few species left. The White Rhino is under threat from habitat loss and poaching, most recently by an offshoot of the. A recent population count in the Congo turned up only 10 rhinos left in the wild, which led conservationists in January 2005 to propose airlifting White Rhinos from Garamba into Kenya, where their numbers decreased to less than 200*. Although official approval was initially obtained, resentment of foreign interference within the Congo has prevented the airlift from happening as of the beginning of 2006.

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90 days detention still on Blair's agenda

November 20, 2006

The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Tony Blair, has expressed his continuing support for a 90 day holding period for terror suspects.

Despite the concern expressed by the head of MI5 and the demands from the Metropolitan Police for more powers, there was no mention of new anti-terror legislation in the Queen’s Speech.

Yet the Prime Minister still wants to extend the present period for which police can hold a suspect from 28 days to 90 days. Blair stated that he believed that the evidence supported the longer period, and said that proposals would be based on an analysis of recent experience and that legislation could be brought in before Christmas if it was thought necessary.

Gordon Brown has said that he, too, would support an extension to 90 days were an analysis to show that it was required.

Lord Carlile, responsible for overseeing terrorist legislation, said he expected new laws to be proposed in the new year, but, if an extension of the period of detention without charge was proposed, it would have to be backed with evidence of the need for it, as the Home Secretary had promised.

Shami Chakrabarti, head of Liberty, the human rights charity, said: "Ninety days is internment - our nightmare but a terrorist recruiter's dream”. She deplored the absence of proposals to use intercept evidence and other means in the pursuit of terrorists. Lord Goldsmith, the Attorney General, said that although the extension from 14 to 28 days was justified by experience, he was unaware of any evidence that would support the extension to 90 days.

The Metropolitan Police had wanted the law to be changed so that interrogation could continue after charges had been made. Lord Goldsmith said of this that there would have to be safeguards to protect prisoners from being bullied by police interrogators, but it might provide an alternative to the extension to 90 days detention period.

Although the Attorney General had, in September, agreed that the admission of intercept evidence in court would be an “important tool in the fight against terrorism”, Home Secretary, John Reid, had rejected the proposal because he had seen no evidence to support its use. The Attorney General now says that ways are being sought to enable phone tapping evidence to be admitted in court without revealing how and where it had been obtained.

Downing Steet refused to comment on Lord Goldsmith's statement.

The Conservative shadow home secretary, David Davis, welcomed Lord Goldsmith’s statement about the 90 day period and said that this justified the stance taken by opponents of the Bill that had resulted in the rejection of the 90 day proposal and the acceptance of 28 days as the maximum period of detention without charge.

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Talk:ELF Cup kicks off in Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus

The article should mention near the top what this cup is for (playing football?) I only assume this because there is a mention of the Asian Football Association in the second paragraph. Sorry for being dense, but this sort of thing is not obvious to residents of other countries. Bob Jonkman 03:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


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New Zealand town subject to window smashers

November 20, 2006

Otaki, a small town located in the North Island of New Zealand, has been subject to vandals who have smashed around 70 windows in the local primary school, Otaki Primary School.

The smashed windows resulted in the closure of the primary school today. It is expected that the school will be open tomorrow.

The primary school was not the only property damaged. The police are reporting that the library, memorial hall, law offices, tyre factor, butchery and the citizen's advice bureau were all attacked, with other attacks possible.

The police say that the damage was done on Saturday night. Business owners are still reporting property damage. Sergeant Mark Toms said: "The damage seems to be widespread, and has not been confined to the school. Mr Toms said that they "are following strong leads as to who is responsible for the vandalism."


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MSN browser upgrade leaves users frozen

November 20, 2006 Microsoft's subscription-based MSN Explorer Internet browser left many of its users frozen out beginning on Friday of last week. Launching the application brought the user to a window stating that the software encountered a problem and had to be closed.

The Internet Explorer browser software bundled with the Windows operating system remains operable, along with other non-MSN software. Subscribers to MSN are still able to retrieve e-mail by accessing their Hotmail account. Telephone support wait times to resolve the connectivity problem with the browser exceeded 45 minutes on Sunday evening. Beginning on Saturday, callers were prompted that wait times were "unusually long due to high call volume".

A query to on-line chat with technical support to resolve the issue was met with, "I sincerely apologize for the length of time that it took you to get to us. We have been swamped with sessions and I am just glad that you finally got me to help you out."

The silent and automatic upgrade to the 9.5 version of MSN Explorer, from verson 9.0, is experiencing difficulties on some machines. Users can log on to support using their account at membercenter.msn.com, click the Support button on the left column of the page, and then select under Subscribed Services / Sign In the link "MSN Internet Access". On-line chat, e-mail, and phone support is available there. Hint: on-line chat is probably the fastest support option.

The existing MSN Explorer software will need to be removed, some Windows registry folders may need to be removed, and the software completely re-downloaded and re-installed.

Dial-up accounts can expect the download to be 93 minutes, for broadband, 9 minutes.

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Judging the Courts: Wikinews interviews Prof. Lawrence Douglas

November 21, 2006 Wikinews interviews Lawrence Douglas, Professor of Law, Jurisprudence and Social Thought at, on questions of the fairness and credibility of the Saddam Hussein trial, and the purpose, conduct and impact of courts trying international law crimes such as genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes.

Prof. Douglas is the author of The Memory of Judgment: Making Law and History in the Trials of the Holocaust (Yale University Press, 2001), an acclaimed study of war crimes trials. His writing has appeared in venues including the Los Angeles Times, the Washington Post, and The New Yorker, and he is a frequent contributor to the Times Literary Supplement.

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WN: Did Saddam Hussein get a fair trial?

LD: Clearly the trial suffered from numerous and substantial flaws which never would have been tolerated had the trial been staged before an international tribunal, as many human rights observers advocated. All the same, the trial was not a complete sham. The prosecution was able to present strong evidence connecting Saddam to the killings in Dujail. The judges apparently struggled long to weigh the evidence brought against the various defendants (though their compendious written judgment has not yet been made public). So if the Hussein trial failed to live up to the hopes of some that Iraqi jurists would quickly master the rules of the rule of law, it also disappointed the doomsday prognostications of others who foretold a legal catastrophe.

WN: Saddam is believed to have committed atrocities on a huge scale. Do such crimes merit a fair trial, one with the same standards as that for a "common" crime?

LD: The magnitude of the crimes should not change our commitment to a fair legal process. This is not to say that the identical rules of evidence that apply in the trial of a "common" criminal must be applied to a spectacular trial of a high-level perpetrator. For example, the Nuremberg and Eichmann trials both permitted hearsay and entertained a more capacious notion of relevance than would have been permitted in a "common" trial. But these unorthodox evidentiary rules did not erode the fairness of the proceedings.

WN: Saddam's defense lawyers, rights groups and observers have questioned the fairness and validity of this trial. What do you make of the concerns raised by them?

LD: The fact that the judge who finally took the reins of control, Raouf Rasheed Abdel-Rahman, frequently got into shouting matches with the defendants and suddenly curtailed the calling of defense witnesses certainly did little to contribute to the image of a neutral, even-handed tribunal.

WN: Some of the issues raised concern matters that were outside the Court's ambit and control (e.g., the murder of three defense team members, the opposition to the use of the death penalty, the effect of the verdict on the continuing violence in the country). Leaving these aside, what do you make of the concerns raised about the Court's own proceedings, its decisions and actions?

LD: Clearly the Tribunal made all sorts of missteps and questionable moves. It's worth bearing in mind, however, that even the best-intentioned court would have faced staggering problems given the tactics of Saddam and the larger political climate outside of the courtroom. Saddam himself placed the Tribunal in an extremely difficult position. The first presiding judge, Rizgar Mohammed Amin, was faulted for his failure to restrain the defendant, and this failure arguably made the court look impotent. His replacement, Judge Abdel-Rahman was faulted for the opposite reason: for dragging the defendant from the courtroom at the slightest provocation, a strategy that undermined the dignity of the court and its appearance of neutrality. So the court was caught in a difficult position, which was not improved by the periodic news that a member of the defense team had been assassinated. That said, the fact that one of the accused was acquitted is a good sign. At the very least, the judges appeared to have learned the Nuremberg lesson that nothing legitimates the death sentence of an architect of atrocity better than the acquittal of a lackey.

WN: Have the actions of the Iraqi authorities undermined the fairness or independence of the Tribunal?

LD: The tribunal was subjected to withering political pressure from the Iraqi government, resulting in the resignation of the first presiding judge and in the withdrawal of a possible replacement. Clearly this kind of political pressure is inappropriate. At the very least it undermines the perception of the tribunal's independence, and matters of perception play an extremely important role in legitimizing the legal process.

WN: The trial has been criticized by Saddam's defense lawyers as having a "pre-determined verdict". What is the line dividing a trial with a "pre-determined verdict" and a trial where there is a widespread belief that the accused is guilty? Can there be a fair trial in this latter circumstance?

LD: Clearly the likelihood of a guilty verdict cannot be a measure of the fairness of a trial. If it were, then the strongest cases could be deemed the least fair. It's important, then, to distinguish between the assumption of guilt, as a factual matter, and the presumption of innocence – the legal norm that requires the state to assume the burden of proving guilt, even in cases in which many people may assume that the accused is guilty. The assumption of guilt can never replace the state's obligation to assume the burden of proof. If it does, the trial is a farce.

International criminal and humanitarian courts
WN: How significant is the Saddam trial to international criminal jurisprudence? Will it impact other trials?

LD: Taken in tandem with the Milosevic trial (which ended, after more than three years of trial, with the death of the former Yugoslav president in March), the Saddam trial makes clear how difficult it is to control the court behavior of former strongmen. Saddam clearly took a page from Milosevic's playbook, mounting a defense of disruption that continuously challenged the legitimacy of the tribunal. I think prosecutors and judges need to come up with new ways of dealing with such recalcitrant defendants. As a further matter, I suppose the irregularities of the Saddam trial will lead some jurists to strengthen the call for international trials of former dictators; clearly, opponents of the death penalty will likewise petition in favor of relying on international courts to deal with the legacy of atrocious crimes.

WN: Do international tribunals such as the ones set up to try crimes committed in the former Yugoslavia, Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Cambodia... etc do a good job? What have they succeeded in? What problems have they experienced?

LD: We should distinguish between international tribunals, such as the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) and the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR) and the hybrid courts that have been constituted in Sierra Leone and now in Cambodia. None of these courts have compiled perfect records, but mostly they have been quite effective. Notwithstanding the missteps and disappointments associated with the Milosevic trial – the former president's death in March cheated the tribunal of the opportunity of ever passing judgment – the ICTY has brought other high level perpetrators to justice and has contributed importantly to the growth of international criminal law. One problem that all these courts have faced are the start-up costs. As ad hoc tribunals, these courts have been created out of nothing, and the cost of building courts, hiring staff, establishing competence has been extraordinarily high. As a permanent institution, the International Criminal Court (ICC) promises to solve some of these problems.

WN: How effective have national courts and individual countries been in bringing high-level leaders to account for abuses?

LD: The record is uneven. In the wake of the atrocities of World War II, thousands of domestic trials were staged. The most spectacular of these – the Eichmann trial in Jerusalem in 1961, the Barbie trial in Lyon in 1987 – were enormously important, despite their flaws, in establishing a responsible account of terrible crimes. Other countries have been less successful. The fact that Pol Pot died peacefully without ever having to answer for his crimes is regrettable, indeed, but not entirely unexpected. A country that is still very much in the grips of its traumatic history is hardly in the position to engage in a reckoning with its past in a manner that accords with the rule of law.

WN: How do the two (domestic versus international courts) compare?

LD: Clearly there are tradeoffs. International trials inevitably arouse resentment in the nations most directly implicated in the commission of the adjudged crimes; international tribunals convey the message that domestic national courts are not up to the task of doing justice. Moreover, as these trials may unfold thousands of miles removed from the site of the crimes, they fail to be organically connected to the communities that should be most involved in the case. Conversely, domestic national courts invite the charge of being insufficiently distanced from the crimes under consideration; these courts thus may be assailed as partisan instruments of victor's justice, or, conversely, as instruments lacking the legal resources and political will to bring perpetrators to justice. If – and it's a big if – we can trust domestic national courts, I think they are to be preferred over international tribunals for the reasons suggested above. International tribunals should be courts of last resort, relied upon in situations in which domestic courts should not be taxed, or cannot be trusted, to deal adequately with the legal legacy of atrocity.

WN: One of the reasons for setting up the and other international courts has been to serve as a deterrent against committing crimes under international humanitarian law; to work around the impunity enjoyed by some leaders in their home countries. How well is this purpose being served?

LD: I'm not sure I would necessarily associate the goal of deterrence with the goal of ending impunity – that is, I believe it is critical to fight impunity, even if bringing perpetrators to justice appears to do little by the way of deterring other leaders from engaging in atrocious acts. That said, I think it's awfully difficult to measure deterrence inasmuch as it's a negative effect. The fact that atrocities continue to occur around the globe doesn't mean that some potential perpetrators might not have thought twice about engaging in criminal acts.

WN: In the efforts to secure an end to the conflict between the Ugandan government and the (LRA) rebels, LRA leaders have demanded that crimes against humanity charges filed against them by the ICC be dropped, as part of the deal. Is there a tension between ensuring justice for the victims of past crimes and preventing/mitigating future suffering? How can such a tension be resolved?

LD: The problem resists easy solution. Once you indict a head of state as, say, a perpetrator of genocide, it becomes extremely difficult to work to a political solution with that leader. At the same time, the ICC is a legal institution, not a political device, and it does not take its orders from negotiators or other political actors. It would be nice to say that the dilemma is false – that perpetrators of atrocities always reveal themselves to be unreliable, treacherous parties to political settlements – though I'm not sure this is correct. Qaddafi, arguably responsible for crimes against humanity, is now the West's poster boy of the rehabilitated strongman.

WN: International law tribunals have been criticized for selectively trying certain perpetrators. Does this selectivity make the process any less valid?

LD: Selectivity can be as benign as it is necessary. All criminal trials are selective inasmuch as only a small percentage of those who break the law ever find themselves in the dock at a criminal trial. It is well accepted that trials of organized crime figures will invariably focus on the conduct of a few. Obviously the goal is to go after the leaders of a criminal organization. The ICC has specifically set itself the goal of going after leaders, not underlings. Problems arise when selectivity is the consequence not of an effort to conserve prosecutorial resources, but born of a political calculus. The ICTY, for example, has wisely brought prosecutions against Croats as well as Serbs. Still, some critics have attacked the ICTY for failing to bring charges against NATO nations for the air war over Kosovo and Serbia in 1999. I am not convinced of the merits of this specific critique, but all fair-minded persons must agree that international justice binds the strong as well as the weak. WN: The International Criminal Court was set up in part to counter this problem, with a promise for "universal justice" Has this attempt at ensuring fairness worked?

LD: By its very terms, the ICC cannot deliver "universal justice," as it has no jurisdiction over crimes committed in a conflict in which neither belligerent is a member of the court. Also, the hope that the court would bind the strong as well as the weak has obviously been frustrated by the Bush administration's concerted efforts to undermine the fledgling body. The one ray of hope here is the fact that Bush did not block the referral of the Darfur crimes to the ICC. The ultimate efficacy and fairness of the ICC will be demonstrated in the years to come.

Courts and writing history
WN: You have suggested in your book,  The Memory of Judgment, that the Holocaust trials have a pedagogical value - they document events and serve as a historical record, in addition to serving the cause of justice. How well does a criminal trial capture the history of the events underlying the crimes?

LD: I think it's fair to say that trials are not well equipped at rendering history in its full complexity. What they can do very effectively is use document and testimony to construct a historical account that reaches a huge audience. This account may never match the most nuanced renderings of the past that issue from the pen of the professional historian. But it can establish a baseline of indisputable fact that discredits the apologists of perpetrators and gives the lie to those who would baldly falsify the historical record.

WN: What does the historical account presented by a judicial process offer that scholarly or journalistic or propagandist accounts don't?

LD: Certainly trials have the power to galvanize national and international attention in a way that other accounts rarely can. Prosecutors can often call upon extraordinarily powerful tools of discovery for the purposes of accumulating and organizing vast amounts of evidence. Survivors are given the opportunity to present stories of victimization in the form of legally potent evidence. Spectators of the trial – either those present in the courtroom or those who follow the proceeding on television – directly witness the presentation of evidence and testimony. In this way, they become witnesses to the witnesses.

WN: Is the pedagogical purpose served even when the trials are or are seen as, selective and less than fair?

LD: One of the central pedagogic aims of these trials is to make visible the workings of the rule of law. This is a particularly important goal in transitional societies that historically have lacked a robust commitment to the rule of law. Clearly this aim cannot be realized if the trial is perceived as deeply flawed. As a further matter, the quality of the justice will inevitably influence the way observers perceive the quality of the history presented in the courtroom. A biased proceeding will not be viewed as a neutral forum for the presentation of history. WN: Many rights and humanitarian groups document abuses and crimes to serve as a record of events. Do trials offer more?

LD: I think of the documentary work of human rights groups and of trials as complementary. The work compiled by humanitarian groups can make its way into the prosecution's dossier. Conversely, researchers can further mine the archival trove compiled by prosecutors. Yet as I've already mentioned, trials enjoy the power to galvanize national and international attention. One cannot underestimate the drama of seeing a former head of state or a high-level perpetrator standing before his accusers, victims, and judges.

WN: How about, which are usually explicitly charged with the task to record events in addition to punishing those guilty of a crime?

LD: Again, I see the work of trials and truth commissions as complementary, not antagonistic. Trials are about adjudicating guilt; they issue in the imposition of a coercive sanction. This fixation on fixing guilt and imposing punishment may serve the interests of reconciliation and transition, but that is not its principal purpose. Moreover, because trials assign blame and impose sanctions, it is critical that they be performed fairly. Truth commissions, by contrast, are often explicitly geared toward advancing the goals of reconciliation: they are part of an instrumental calculus that seeks a smooth transition to a more humane political order. Truth commissions may, then, be better suited to the experiences of certain nations than trials. That said, the two are not mutually exclusive and can often work in tandem with one another. As time passes, a nation that, in the interests of stabilizing a fledgling democracy, originally accepted a truth commission may come to see, as its institutions strengthen, the attractions, if not the necessity, of trials, too.

WN: You have written that law has responded to the Holocaust by creating and expanding on the concepts of genocide and crimes against humanity. Are these additions to legal discourse and legal apparatus adequate to handle the events since then, such as the Rwandan genocide, the breakup of Yugoslavia? Do these events show a need for, or did they spawn, a fresh expansion?

LD: I think we need to distinguish between the substantive crimes that high-level perpetrators stand accused of having committed – e.g., genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes – and the principles of criminal accountability that prosecutors use to organize and prove their case. Here I have in mind concepts such as the "joint criminal enterprise," which has been usefully elaborated by prosecutors at the ICTY to facilitate complex prosecutions of high-level perpetrators. Some have called for the expansion of the substantive crimes to include novel offenses, such as "the crime of atrocity." I, for one, think it counterproductive to proliferate the number of major international crimes; "genocide" and "crimes against humanity" are both clearly enough defined yet capacious enough to embrace the full spectrum of atrocity.

Back to Saddam's trial
WN: How well did the Saddam trial fare in writing history?

LD: The tribunal's written decision is yet to appear, so it's difficult to answer this question. Perhaps more to the point, the trial dealt with a relative minor set of crimes, those pertaining to the reprisal killings of 148 Shias in Dujail in 1982. While such a focus made for a more manageable case for the prosecution, it did not serve the broader interest of demonstrating the full sweep of atrocity perpetrated by Saddam's regime.

WN: Does the court's record of events really matter? Don't "Iraqis know Saddam's crimes, trial or no trial"?

LD: I think a court's record of events can make a difference. Though many Germans were aware of the "excesses" of the Nazis, the Nuremberg trial made clear to them the extent and depth of atrocity perpetrated by their leaders. This accounting helped erode whatever residual sympathy the Nazis enjoyed among the German people. Ideally, the Hussein trial would have achieved a similar end. I doubt though that this has happened. Unfortunately, in the minds of many Iraqis, the crimes for which Saddam has been sentenced to death pale in comparison to the violence that grips the Iraqi nation on a daily basis. If anything, a sizeable percentage of the population probably now longs for a strong leader capable of reimposing conditions of security and order.

WN: Should the trial have been conducted by an international tribunal instead of an Iraqi one?

LD: Clearly an international tribunal could have avoided some of the more unseemly problems that vexed the Iraqi court. Still, I believe an international court would have been plagued by other problems. As the Milosevic trial made clear, the fact that a trial is conducted before an international tribunal does not guarantee that it is perceived as legitimate or independent – the ICTY was dismissed in Serbia as the lapdog of NATO. And as I mentioned earlier, removing a case to an international court sends the implicit message that the Iraqi legal system is deficient, something guaranteed to breed resentment. And as the Milosevic trial made clear, there is no reason to believe that Saddam would have been more deferential to his international judges than he was to Iraqi jurists.

WN: There is a possibility that Saddam may be executed without facing trial over other, far more significant crimes such as the, in which an estimated 100,000 people died. How important is it, for serving justice and for establishing a historical record, for Saddam to face trial for the Anfal killings, the repression of the 1991 Shia uprising, and other alleged acts?

LD: In August, just as Saddam's first trial was winding down, his second began – this one involving his regime's alleged atrocities committed against Iraqi Kurds during the Anfal military campaign in the late 1980s. Needless to say, this trial involves far more serious crimes than those at issue in the first trial; in terms of the role of the trial as a tool for clarifying a horrific past, this proceeding promises to do far fuller justice to the abominable crimes of Saddam's regime. This fact alone creates a strong case for delaying Saddam's execution until at least the completion of this second trial. Indeed, it would be best to delay his execution until all the crimes of his regime, such as the bloody repression campaign of 1991, can be submitted to legal judgment. Ideally this would serve the interests of history and justice, as Iraqi prosecutors and judges would grow increasingly familiar with conducting trials according to the rule of law.

International law and the United States
WN: The United States has moved to redefine its rules regarding the treatment of terrorist suspects, combatants and detainees. At the same time, it has sought to reduce judicial, congressional and public scrutiny of the government's conduct in its. Do these moves conflict with the Unites States' obligations under international law?

LD: Two bodies of the United Nations, the Committee against Torture and the Human Rights Committee have concluded that the executive policy of secret detentions violates international treaty obligations. The Military Commissions Act of 2006, passed into law in the end of September, permits the use of evidence against unlawful alien enemy combatants obtained through cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment; international law bars such use. From the summer of 2002 until the end of 2004, the executive branch operated under a definition of torture that was absurdly permissive – it made a mockery of both international and domestic law prohibiting the practice of torture. It's fair to say the Bush administration has treated international law not a code of binding norms but as a series of recommendations to be followed as it sees fit.

WN: The outgoing Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld has been sued in Germany for alleged war crimes over the  and allegedly, in the Guantanamo Bay detainment camp. Under what circumstances will senior commanders or civilian leaders be held responsible for abuse committed under their command? If the German prosecutors do open a case, is the United States or Secretary Rumsfeld obliged to respond or act upon it?

LD: I think it's fair to say that Angela Merkel would be horrified to see a German prosecutor bring forward war crimes charges against Donald Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales, John Yoo, and others named in the criminal complaint recently filed by the Center for Constitutional Rights. All the same, German courts have been receptive to exercising universal jurisdiction, so it's not completely unthinkable that a case might move forward – though not to trial. That could not occur in Rumsfeld's absence and there is little chance that the former defense secretary would schedule a flight to Berlin if he feared being seized on arrival. I, for one, am not a fan of the aggressive reliance on universal jurisdiction as a way of achieving global justice – the opportunities for abuse are too great. In this case, Rumsfeld and the Bush administration would decry the entire proceeding as illegitimate and thoroughly politicized. And they would score big points domestically by presenting the Germans' actions as the most emphatic confirmation of the administration's worst fears of international criminal law run amok.


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Two Palestinians die, at least seven others are wounded as Israeli attacks continue

November 20, 2006

An Israeli air strike on a car carrying Hamas militants killed two Palestinians in Gaza City.

The attack also injured approximately eight people, including an elderly passerby. Hospital sources say the septuagenarian later succumbed to his wounds. The other victim was a street vendor. Seven other people, including two Hamas militants and two children were also wounded in the attack.

Witnesses say the strike occurred near a mosque in the city's Zeitoun neighborhood as the prayer concluded and worshipers came out. A spokesman for the Israeli military confirmed the attack, but did not provide any further details.

An Israeli Defence spokesman confirmed that Amir Peretz had called President Mahmoud Abbas, asking the latter to stop fighters from launching rockets into Israel. "During a telephone conversation, Mr Peretz asked Mr Abbas to exercise his authority to put a stop to the rocket fire," the spokesman said.

In Gaza City a spokesman for the ruling party, Hamas said that Israel would not be able to stop Palestinian fighters from firing rockets into its territory.

An Israeli woman was killed when a Qassam rocket hit the town of Sderoth on the 15 of this month. Over 400 Palestinians, including many civilians have been killed by attacks, which Israel says are aimed at halting the rocket fire which has terrorized Southern Israel since Israel disengaged from the Gaza strip. The rockets have wounded or killed hundreds.


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i'm sure nobody ever pigeon-holed you, now if I just knew what "pigeon-holed" meant... :) Edbrown05 04:39, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:MSN browser upgrade leaves users frozen

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Talisma NetAgent Customer Client

6:16:15 PM Ailene Hi Edward, I have your account in front of me now. According to your record, you're currently in Virginia using Windows XP and MSN 9 software. Am I correct? 6:16:29 PM edward brown yes 6:16:50 PM Ailene Okay. Thank you for your patience while I gathered all the information. How may I assist you today? 6:19:15 PM edward brown I have had 2 previous chat sessions that you may be able to reference, dealing with msn 9.5 upgrade.... it was unsuccessful on my 3 computers, and i wasn't unable to save a transcript from previous sessions to perform maintenance to my other 2 computers. 6:20:20 PM Ailene I see. May I ask for minute or two while I try to go over your previous records to check on your concern? 6:20:32 PM edward brown thank you 6:22:30 PM Ailene Edward, I have checked on your records and it was noted that the steps given to you is to be provided by our Software Resolution Specialist. 6:22:57 PM Ailene I will need to transfer you over to our Resolution Specialist Team to be able to gather the advance troubleshooting steps that you need. 6:23:19 PM edward brown i recieved the steps, but did not them them, rather i attempted to save the session record to ms word 6:23:34 PM edward brown * did not print them 6:24:05 PM Ailene I see. No worries, our specialist will be providing you the steps that you need. 6:24:35 PM edward brown the session did *save* at all in Word, wondering how I can do it? 6:25:18 PM edward brown i mean did NOT save in Word 6:25:22 PM Ailene So you mean, that after your chat session, you have tried to save the transcript on a word document but it was not saved at all? 6:25:33 PM edward brown yes :) 6:26:00 PM Ailene I see. This time you can try to save it on a note pad. 6:26:30 PM  edward brown mmm, i'll perform that trial now, as a test 6:26:50 PM  Ailene Okay. 6:27:10 PM  Ailene However Edward, as much as I want to provide you the steps that you need, I need to transfer you over to our Software Resolution Specialist to provide you the information. 6:27:10 PM  Ailene Is that okay with you? 6:28:33 PM  edward brown yes, thanks 6:28:51 PM  System Connected with Ailene 6:29:01 PM  Ailene Okay. Allow me a minute or two to get hold of a specialist for you. Please stay online. 6:31:21 PM  Ailene Edward, I'm on hold for a specialist. I will be transferring you over and the next specialist will be getting back to you. Maybe within a minute or two. 6:31:26 PM  Ailene It was my pleasure assisting you today. Thank you for contacting MSN Technical Support. Enjoy the rest of the night and please stay online. 6:31:30 PM edward brown okay 6:34:14 PM System Ailene has left this session! 6:37:24 PM System Ma. Cristina has joined this session! 6:37:24 PM System Connected with Ma. Cristina 6:37:44 PM Ma. Cristina Hi Edward. This is Christina and I am your Software Resolution Specialist for today. 6:37:44 PM Ma. Cristina I sincerely apologize for the length of time that it took you to get to us. 6:37:56 PM Ma. Cristina We have been swamped with sessions and I am just glad that you finally got me to help you out. 6:38:24 PM edward brown hello, and thank you 6:39:11 PM Ma. Cristina Based on the information I received, I understand that you want to install MSN9 on one of your computers and would want the steps provided to you by the last specialist that you spoke with. Is that correct? 6:40:03 PM edward brown yes, i will save the steps properly this time, i hope 6:40:46 PM Ma. Cristina I am very happy that you got me to help you with this, let me review your records so I can get the steps for you. 6:41:03 PM edward brown thank you 6:41:29 PM Ma. Cristina You are very welcome. 6:41:31 PM Ma. Cristina I will be right with you once I have all the information that we need. 6:42:41 PM Ma. Cristina I am looking over the steps that was given to you and I see that un installation had to be done before downloading and installing MSN9. 6:42:57 PM Ma. Cristina Do we have an existing MSN software already installed on the other computer? 6:43:58 PM edward brown no, only one of my 3 computers is "fixed", now I will work on this xp laptop, later the me edition desktop 6:44:21 PM Ma. Cristina Thank you so much for clarifying that for me. 6:44:31 PM Ma. Cristina Let me get everything in order for you. 6:44:39 PM Ma. Cristina This should not take too long. 6:47:01 PM Ma. Cristina Here are the set of steps provided by Ida Edward. 6:47:12 PM Ma. Cristina Phase I: To backup the e-mail messages saved on the computer, please do the following: 1. Sign out of MSN. Click Start, and then click Run. 2. In the Open box, type a dot or period (.) then click OK. 3. On the window that opens, change the display settings to be able to view your "db" folder which holds all the archived messages. a. Click on the Tools menu, and then click Folder Options. b. Click on the View tab. c. Under Advanced Settings, look for and select "Show hidden files and folders". d. Please uncheck also the options "Hide extensions for known file types" and "Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)" e. Click OK when done. 4. Please double-click on the following folders in the order they are shown: a. Local Settings folder b. Application Data folder c. Microsoft folder d. MSN folder. You should then see a folder named db. In summary we are opening the folder C:\Documents and Settings\\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\MSN 5. Right-click on the db folder and then click on the Copy option. 6. Right-click anywhere on the Desktop and then left click on Paste. Phase II: Optimize Internet Explorer (Internet Explorer version 6, see section below for Internet Explorer 7): 1. Start Internet Explorer. 2. On the "Tools" menu, click "Internet Options." 3. On the "General" tab, click "Delete Cookies." Skip this step and skip step 2 if "Delete Cookies" is unavailable. 4. When you are prompted to confirm the deletion, click "OK." 5. Click "Clear History." When you are prompted to confirm, click "OK." 6. Click "Delete Files," select the "Delete all offline content" check box, and then click "OK." 7. Click "Settings." 8. Click "View Files." 9. When the View Files window appears, press CTRL+A to select all the files, and then press DELETE. Skip steps 10 and 11 if there are no files in the window. 10. When you are prompted to confirm, click "Yes," and then close the window. 11. Click "OK" to close the "Settings" dialog box. 12. Click the "Security" tab. 13. Click the "Internet" icon, select "Default Level" if it is available, and then click "Apply." Repeat this step for the "Restricted," "Trusted," and "Local Intranet" zones. 14. Click the "Restricted" icon, and then click "Sites." 15. Select a listed site, and then click "Remove." Repeat this step until all the sites are removed from the list. Click "OK" when you are finished. 16. Click the "Privacy" tab. Note: In some versions of Internet Explorer, the "Privacy" tab does not exist. If you do not see the "Privacy" tab, skip steps 17 and 18. 17. Click "Sites." If "Sites" is unavailable, click "Edit." If sites appear under Managed Web sites, click "Remove All," and then click "OK." 18. Click "Default" if it is available, and then click "Apply." 19. Click the "Advanced" tab. 20. Click "Restore Default," and then click "Apply." 21. Click the "Content" tab. 22. Click "Clear SSL State." Skip this step if "Clear SSL State" is unavailable. 23. In the "Personal information" section, click "AutoComplete." 24. In the "AutoComplete Settings" dialog box, click "Clear Forms," and then click "OK." 25. Click "Clear Passwords," and then click "OK." 26. Click "OK" to close the AutoComplete Settings window. 27. Click "OK" to close "Internet Options." To optimize the Internet options for Internet Explorer 7, follow these steps: 1. Start Internet Explorer. 2. On the "Tools" menu, click "Internet Options." - On "General" tab, click "Delete," and then click "Delete All." At the bottom of the page, select "Also delete files and settings stored by add-ons," and then click "Yes." Click "Close." - Click the "Security" tab, and then click "Reset all Zones to Default Level." - Click the "Advanced" tab, and then click "Restore Advanced settings." To reset all settings to Internet Explorer default settings, follow these steps. Warning: Only follow these steps when your Internet Explorer is in an unusable state. This resets all Internet Explorer options to their original settings, history information, cookies and temporary files will be removed and add-ons will be disabled. 1. Close all the programs that are running and all the windows that are open. 2. On the "Tools" menu, click "Internet Options." 3. Click the "Advanced" tab. 4. Click "Reset." Phase III: Remove MSN thru Add/Remove Programs: 1. Exit all programs. 2. Click Start, and then click Control Panel. 3. Click Add or Remove Programs. 4. In the Currently installed programs list, click MSN and then click Change/Remove. 5. If you are prompted by the Installation Wizard, confirm that you want to remove MSN, and then click OK. 6. When finished removing, close the Add/Remove Programs window. Phase IV: Remove MSN thru Program Files in your Hard Drive: 1. Click Start, and then click My Computer. 2. Click on Local Hard Disk (C:) to open the contents of your C drive. 3. The list of folders are alphabetically arranged. Look for the Program Files folder. Double-click to open. 4. Look for the MSN folder but do not open it. 5. Right-click the MSN folder, and then click Delete. 6. If you are prompted, confirm that you want to delete the folder. 7. Close this Explorer window to return to your Desktop. Phase V: Remove MSN thru the Registry Warning: If you use Registry Editor incorrectly, you may cause serious problems that may require that you reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot guarantee that you can solve problems that result from incorrectly using Registry Editor. Use Registry Editor at your own risk. As a precaution, we will first perform a back up of your registry before editing the registry. Here are the steps to back up your Registry: 1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK. 2. On the Registry Editor window, Click on "File", then "Export" 3. In the File Name box, type "OldReg". Make sure Save as Type says "Registration Files (*.reg)" 4. Under "Export Range" at the bottom, select "All". 5. In the "Save In" box, you can select "My Documents". Then Click Save. 6. After clicking Save, you will be brought back to the Registry Editor window. At this point you are now ready to edit the Registry. 7. Delete the following keys: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\MSN HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\MSN6 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\MSNInstaller HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSN6 If you are not familiar with editing or deleting keys in the registry, this is interpreted as removing the subfolders specific to MSN registry keys. To illustrate, as an example: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\MSN "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE" has a subfolder "SOFTWARE". "SOFTWARE" has a subfolder called "MICROSOFT". "MICROSOFT" has a subfolder called "MSN". We actually delete that "MSN" folder in the registry (Right-Click on MSN, Click Delete and confirm deletion). Subfolders are alphabetically arranged. If you do not find MSNInstaller, you can disregard this. 8. Close Registry Editor and restart your Computer. Phase VI: Download and Install MSN from the Internet 1. Open Internet Explorer 2. Enter this address on the address bar: http://membercenter.msn.com/download.aspx 3. Click on Install Now. Select save and save the installer file "msnsusii.exe" on the Desktop. 4. After download is complete, go to the Desktop and open the msnsusii.exe file. Select Run when prompted 5. Complete the wizard and select Typical installation. 6. Restart the computer when prompted. Phase VIII: Restore the backed up offline e-mail messages 1. Sign out of MSN. Click Start, and then click Run. 2. In the Open box, type a dot or period (.) then click OK. 3. Navigate Explorer to go back to the previous folder: C:\Documents and Settings\\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\MSN 4. Copy and Paste the db folder from the Desktop to this location. 5. Right-click the newly pasted db folder. Select Rename. Rename this db folder as "db30" (without the quotes). 6. Close the Explorer window. 7. Try to sign in to MSN. 6:47:52 PM edward brown that looks perfect for me to relove this 6:48:01 PM Ma. Cristina Please review them and tell me if you have any questions or concerns about it. 6:48:18 PM edward brown * resolve..... looking thank you so much, session saved by me, now logging off 6:52:35 PM Ma. Cristina Now that you have the information that you need, can I assist you with anything else? 6:52:44 PM edward brown no

MySpaces?
What's MySpaces? It's not something I've heard of before. J Di 11:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

 * My 2 1/2 year-old grandson says "nope" instead of "soap", not because he means 'nope' but because "s" escapes him. It's funny teaching an 'ess' to a less than three-year-old :) Edbrown05 12:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


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UN calls on Israel, Palestinian groups to end their conflict, urges enquiry into Israeli actions

November 20, 2006

Qatar called an emergency meeting of the General Assembly on Saturday to debate the ceasefire resolution that fell at the Security Council last week on account of a veto by the United States. After some amendment, the General Assembly passed the resolution with a large majority. 156 countries supported, seven opposed and six abstained in the vote. Among those opposing were Israel, the United States and Australia.

The resolution calls on both Israel and Palestine to stop their violent activities: the Palestinian firing of rockets into Israel and the Israeli incursions into Palestinian territory.

The reason given by Ambassador Bolton for opposing the motion was that it served the interests of those “hostile to Israel's inalienable and recognised right to exist”. Attempts to form a party of national unity in Palestine are being thwarted by failure to agree on this point. Although Fatah would acknowledge Israel’s right to exist, Hamas is opposing any such statement. The UN resolution also instructed the Secretary General, Kofi Annan, to investigate the killing of 19 people by shell fire in Beit Hanoun in Gaza. At least 12 artillery shells landed on the village because, according to the Israelis, of a “tragic mistake”.

Reports are now coming in of a repeat of the “civil defence” measures taken on Saturday by civilians swarming around and over a house targeted for demolition by Israeli military forces. On this occasion, the house is occupied by a senior member of Hamas, the ruling party. It is located in Beit Lahiya in the north of the Gaza strip.


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User talk:Swazi13

Welcome to Wikinews
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User talk:169.200.215.16

Welcome!

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Talk:UN calls on Israel, Palestinian groups to end their conflict, urges enquiry into Israeli actions

"aggression"
does the resolution text call it "agreession"? the term has a specific meaning in international law - "Unjustified planned, threat- ened, or carried out use of force by one nation against another. The key word in the definition of aggression is "unjustified"—that is, in violation of international law, treaties, or agreements. It was the basic charge leveled against Nazi Germany at the Nuremberg Trials in 1946.". — Doldrums(talk) 14:07, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I have tried to change title to "end their conflict" - fumbled around and eventually got "blocked" whatever that means? Altogether lost! Fentonrobb 16:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

related news
time for a Template:Israel-Palestine Infobox. — Doldrums(talk) 14:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Map
I removed the map from the article because Hamas and Fatah's views on Israel are already outlined, and the article only refers to the Israel/Palestine area, no other arab states are mentioned.


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User talk:202.59.80.55

Welcome
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please do not vandalize
Hello,

Your recent contributions constitute vandalism and have been reverted. Should you believe that your contributions are *not* vandalism, please argue your case on your talk page, or in WN:ALERT.

Further vandalism will result in a 24 hour ban. Please contribute to Wikinews in a constructive fashion instead. — Doldrums(talk) 07:14, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikinews. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles will be reverted quickly. — Doldrums(talk) 12:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

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Wikinews talk:Protection policy

Semi-protection
This page doesn't even mention semi-protection, and could really confuse or mislead new editors. Is there a separate page for this, or has it just been forgotten about? J Di 14:45, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

High use templates
I'm adding in the protection of High use templates. Not only is this common sense, but it's policy already. For some reason we just don't have it listed on this page. If this is in any way controversial, feel free to revert and discuss here. Gopher65talk 16:44, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Published articles
Should we update this page to include that newly published should receive semi-protection? —mikemoral (talk · contribs) 05:27, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * It would be reasonable to include that, I think. - Xbspiro (talk) 04:07, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree. •–• 04:08, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
 * We already use FlaggedRevs to hide new revisions of published articles, right? If so, this doesn't seem necessary. Given our activity issues, it's good to encourage new users to expand recent articles. Thriftycat (talk) 15:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * While I agree that FlaggedRevs ought to be enough, published articles shouldn't really be expanded unless it is a breaking topic. And I can't really remember the last time we managed to publish something while it was truly breaking. SVTCobra 02:52, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't know if I really worded that correctly, but substantial edits/expansions almost trigger another entire review process. SVTCobra 02:55, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Alright, that makes sense. Thriftycat (talk) 03:19, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I think the best alternative is to start a new article with the latest developments. And they are always free to tell us if we made a mistake by using the talk page. SVTCobra 03:24, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * This appears to be de facto policy anyway and isn't causing major issues. I've no problem with putting it down on paper. Thriftycat (talk) 03:27, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I'd be fine not semi-protecting articles upon publishing. What I will say is I was told this was the practice when I returned from on of my breaks. And these were no just random people telling me this, but both of them were highly regarded Sysops and Bureaucrats. SVTCobra 03:34, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Alright, I added a mention of it; of course, feel free to revert for further discussion Thriftycat (talk) 03:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

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User talk:209.221.90.23

Welcome
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Warning
This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikinews. Please use Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles will be reverted quickly. --Skenmy(t•c•w•i) 15:12, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

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User:Grimlock

You can see my profil on the french wikinews or the french wikipedia. I'm already on the english wikipedia (and other projects), but I mostly participate to the french ones.

Initiated articles

 * James Brown dies of pneumonia

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User talk:Grimlock

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! Jacques Divol 17:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
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Interwiki
I seem to remember you adding several Interwiki links to articles that don't exist, I don't think that's the proper thing to do...--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 09:51, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Ticker
If you want, i'd be happy to set up the script to work on fr. Does the frwn have DPL's etc? TheFearow 22:07, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Would you like me to install it? I'll register now. TheFearow 08:46, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I registered and left you a message on frwn. If you reply please notify me here, and preferably do so in english (I can barely read french, and can only write basic french). TheFearow 09:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

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Basel's railway station shut down after shoot-out

November 20, 2006

Trains, trams, cars and buses ground to a halt on Monday after a shoot-out between 18:00 CET and 19:00 CET in the historical city of Basel in Switzerland. The first shots were fired at around 16:00 CET according to the spokesperson of the Government. Special Police Forces were getting prepared to launch an assault against this building. The authors of the shoot-out are unknown as well as their target. Railway traffic was blocked off at around 18:00 CET, according to the Swiss Federal Railways' (SBB-CFF-FFS) spokesperson, Christian Kräuchi. At around 19:00 CET, railway traffic resumed.


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Talk:Basel's railway station shut down after shoot-out

sources in French are ok. But english sources are needed for our mono-lingual friends Jacques Divol 20:03, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Impressive. I just checked CNN and BBC and then did a general Google search and found nothing. This must really be breaking. -Richard 'Doc' Kinne 20:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


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New look for The Times of London

November 20, 2006

The Times newspaper announced today the sixth change in fount in the paper’s 221 years history, and the introduction of a new [[w:Coat of arms|coat of arms in the masthead.

The need for the latest change in fount was prompted by the adoption of a "compact" paper size in 2004. The new fount, Times Modern, replaces Times Classic and, with more letters per line, the paper's head of design, David Driver, writes that it "...allows for more articulation in the process of writing". Readers are assured that the change is "not a reckless impulse but reading conditions for many people have become less leisurely".

The masthead and insignia have also been redesigned. The historic problem of depicting the lion in the masthead as fierce is addressed by engraver Ewina Ellis. She told Driver, "It is very difficult to make a facing lion fierce — or even faintly cross. They can weep, grin and hold door-knocker rings quite easily, but in comparison to the unicorn with its horn, goat-beard, spiky ears and flowing mane, their silhouette is lumpen. I pitied the poor engravers who had no more seen a lion than a unicorn."

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Talk:New look for The Times of London

Help please in assigning categories for this little piece. Fentonrobb 20:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC) Thank you Doldrums.

I have reverted fonts to founts because that is what the Times calls typefaces. Please have a look at the source. Fentonrobb 20:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Good God, we call fonts founts? I had no idea! --81.79.29.103 23:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Title
I changed the title becasue I was confused about which newspaper we are refering to. Remember that Wikinews is international. There are many newpapers with the same name such as The New York Times. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  00:10, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:81.79.29.103

Welcome!

81.79.29.103, welcome to Wikinews! Thank you for your contributions I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews:
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 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
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Here are some other hints and tips:

 * I would recommend that you get a username. You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikinews, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information, and there are many benefits of having a username.  (If you edit without a username, your IP address is used to identify you instead.)

 * When using talk pages, please sign your name at the end of your messages by typing four tildes (~~). This will automatically produce your username (or IP address) and the date.

If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! — Doldrums(talk) 20:25, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

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New Czech grocery chain to be opened by Vietnamese

November 21, 2006

Vietnamese market sellers plan to open a new chain to compete with other supermarkets. The shops will run primarily in small towns and will offer food and drugs. They are to be opened in the next few years, said Nguyen Duong former chairman of the Prague-based Association of Vietnamese Entrepreneurs. For this purpose, they are buying available vacant shops from Czech retail chain Jednota.

So far Vietnamese retailers focus on selling shoes, clothes, and electronics. This is to be changed now. After some time, when the shops will be successfully established, sellers will move from the outside to the inside. of buildings. "Within three to five years [Vietnamese] outdoor markets will disappear completely", Duong said. But it seems the new chain will have a hard time, as the market is getting saturated and even some bigger companies have decided to leave the Czech Republic. Last week Belgium-based retailer, Delvita, sold its supermarket to German Rewe group which will be rebranded to Billa.

Neither the current Vietnamese business activities are without problems. Czech Customs confiscated products worth 50,000,000 CZK (€1,786,000) during the trademark falsification round-up Saturday. The inspection took place simultaneously in Pilsen, Prachatice, Chomutov, and Prague. "This sort of inspection will continue, we have positive experience with actions in the time before Christmas", said a spokesman of the Czech Customs agency.


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Talk:The Wii, Nintendo's next generation console, launches in North America

Is a news story the place to have an inventory of the console box contents?? -Richard 'Doc' Kinne 21:30, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Good question. In a news article (imo) it shouldn't. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)   (sign here!)  01:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Two Palestinians die, at least seven others are wounded as Israeli attacks continue

The title should state that the casualties are hamas fighters. This title makes it look like they are civilians.

Seconded. It is important to point out that the pair were militants. I'll let someone else change it though just in case. --Shaoken 01:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Not all of the wounded are Hamas fighters. Weasel wording the title would only make it unwieldy. Zeest(Talk)(Newpages) [[Image:Flag_of_India.svg|25px]] 11:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Hamas fighters are not to be referred to as "terrorists", if we wish to paint Wikinews as a neutral media source - Hamas is not only democratically elected, but statistically, very few countries in the world list them as a terrorist organisation. Sherurcij 00:00, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree "terrorist" is too POV. PVJ(Talk)(Newpages) 08:38, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Photojournalism

You are probably looking for WN:PHOTOESSAY

- ''This is a proposed idea. You can choose to support it. If it is supported by many, and has wide community support, it may become a real feature of Wikinews. Please comment on the discussion page of the idea on any changes you would like to make, or just edit the page directly.''

Please also coordinate with Scheduled attendance for Wikinews or Commons and Press corps

Photojournalism is the act of having someone in the field to get photos of events as they happen. Obviously, as Wikinews is a small community - we cannot have news crews and photographers everywhere. Instead - what I propose is that those of us who can (i.e. have access to a camera) become voluntary photojournalists for Wikinews.

Proposed Structure

 * Users will sign up and name their locations
 * Other users will post upcoming events (or even breaking events in the very local area of a photojournalist)
 * Photojournalists will sign on to cover the event
 * After the event, the photographs are pooled and the best used in an article about the event.

To Come...
This still has a lot of work to be done. We need to develop strong ties with the community in order to get the events posted so we can sign on to them - and we will need methods of obtaining upcoming events. Please make any and all comments on the talk page.

Photojournalists
Please sign this section with a triple tilde and your location / availability in order to register your interest in this idea. This is *not* yet signing up to become a photojournalist - just a good idea of coverage and availability.

 * Skenmy(t•c•w•i) - Essex, UK | London, UK (Available most weekends and school holidays)
 * terinjokes User Page / Talk 21:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC) - Southern-Palm Beach County (Just txt my phone)
 * ericb / located in Windsor Ontario Canada / weekends and after 5
 * Elatanatari / Detroit / Weekends, holidays, other than that Im pretty busy even though i dont have a life.
 * FellowWikiNews - Ontario, Canada. Will attend events around the province if asked and report about festivals, news events, etc.
 * Steven Fruitsmaak - Belgium, equipped with a Nikon D40.
 * Adambro Support the idea but feel coordination at meta level might be more appropriate. Adambro 15:40, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * ― WIKI 151, taxi to runway 34R via Bravo.  13:40, 14 January 2021 (UTC) (Medan, Indonesia, and other places if I happen to be there. Could try to.)

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