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Canadian Parliament suspended until late January

December 5, 2008 The has been suspended until January 26, 2009, by Prime Minster Stephen Harper. On Thursday, Harper obtained the consent of the Governor General,, to Parliament, a procedure which suspends the legislature without dissolving it. This prevents the Parliament from overthrowing the government and avoids calling a new election. A coalition of the and the  had looked ready to overthrow the 's minority government led by Harper.

"The first order of business will be the presentation of a federal budget," Harper told reporters outside of the Governor's residence. "Let's get on with actually working on a package. That's what I think Canadians want us to do, is work on the economy and work together, work together in the interest in Canada."

Stéphane Dion, the leader of the Liberal Party, who was positioned to become the new Prime Minister, said the coalition would still seek to replace Harper barring a "monumental change" in his policies.

"For the first time in the history of Canada, the prime minister of Canada is running away from the Parliament of Canada," Dion said. He said Harper has "placed partisan politics ahead of the interest of all Canadians."

"Nothing has changed for us," added Dion. "We are more committed than ever with the coalition."

New Democrat leader Jack Layton said it was a "sad day for parliamentary democracy," and that Harper was trying to "escape accountability."

"He's put a lock on the door of the House of Commons and he refuses to face the people of Canada through their elected representatives," Layton said, addressing press at the.

On Wednesday evening, Prime Minister Harper spoke to Canadians in a televised address.

"The Opposition is attempting to impose this deal without your say, without your consent, and without your vote. This is no time for backroom deals with the separatists; it is the time for Canada’s government to focus on the economy and specifically on measures for the upcoming budget. This is a pivotal moment in our history," Harper said.


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Review
Is there anyone willing to review this? It is currently the top story at BBC News Online. --SVTCobra 02:29, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I did it, sorry for the delay. Here are the review results:

Overthrowing?
"This prevents the Parliament from overthrowing the government"

We do not say "overthrowing" in a context such as this. We say "bringing down".

We would also tend to say "Parliament", not "the Parliament". Varlaam (talk) 15:04, 6 January 2010 (UTC) (in Toronto)


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Bombings strike Iraqi city
According to local police, two suspected car bombs detonated in the city of Fallujah, Iraq, killing at least fifteen people and injuring several dozen more.

Two police positions were the targets of the attack. Both suffered from damage, with one being completely totaled, according to reports from a senior police officer. Several houses in the vicinity of the police positions were also damaged.

Fallujah is located in the eastern part of the Al Anbar Governorate. The city was at the centre of a Sunni-led rebellion against US forces after the latter invaded Iraq in 2003.

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Security alert at Dehli's airport
There was a security scare at Dehli's Indira Gandhi International Airport in India on Thursday in what later seemed to be a false alarm, according to officials at the airport.

There were unconfirmed reports that shots had been fired from a car near the international terminal of the airport, but Central Industrial Security Force (CISF) Deputy Inspector General Udayan Banerjee later stated that "there was no eyewitness" to any shooting and there were no reports of injuries.

"We have combed the airport inch by inch and we have found nothing. The same is for the domestic airport. Nothing has happened," said the person in charge of the CISF control room, K. R. Singh.

This comes just days after last week's attack of Mumbai that killed almost 200 people.

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Ship gets stuck on Antarctic shores
The Argentine Navy reported that a cruise ship with 122 people on board has run aground on the coast of Antarctica in Wilhelmina Bay.

Admiral Daniel Martin reported that the ship, which is named Ushuaia, was leaking fuel, and that small amounts of water were coming in. The ship is 300 kilometres southwest of Argentina's Marambio Base on the Antarctic peninsula.

A nearby passenger ship is en route to rescue the stranded vessel.

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I just recently found this site. These are the kind of news articles I've been looking for all of my life, actual items of interest that aren't limited to the borders of the USA. Good job Wikinews! Finally someone understands what makes news interesting! I'll probably be joining soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.185.24.226 (talk) 13:22, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

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Welcome
I noticed you have tried to add some news about an eBay scammer. However, it must be supported by current sources, not just news links from 2006. I am sorry if it appeared to be harsh when I undid your previous edits. If you can't find a source yourself, you can add it as tip at Requested articles. BTW, I would recommend that you get a username. You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikinews, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information (not even an e-mail address), and there are many benefits of having a username. (If you edit without a username, your IP address is used to identify you instead.) --SVTCobra 02:06, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

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Comments:Somalia in danger of famine

Wow...Nothing I can say is nearly enough that can be said about the horrible things happening there. The times when life is hardest is always because of people whose sense of morality is centered on themselves, eschewing all others. I can think of very few examples wherein that fact is as evident as in this case of poor, suffering, and ultimately overwhelmed Somalia.

it's
1992 all over again. But this time we have radical Muslims in their now instead of the stereotypical warlord.--KDP3 (talk) 17:29, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

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Pic? anyone? --72.73.88.13 04:39, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Adding Category:Michael Bloomberg
This article is missing the Category:Michael Bloomberg tag, may someone with sufficient permission please add the tag. Cocoaguy (talk) 17:51, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

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Comments:Somali pirates now hold 134 Filipino seafarers hostage

The pirates are pretty stupid. They should get some real jobs like the rest of us.


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Comments:Solar car travels around the world

Nop.We are already using Toyota Prius but we dont have good market.

This is awesome. It's a good step for environmentalism, and shows the world solar is a way to go.

We can at least give it a try, but this can work only if we stop using oil. Someone mentionned the Prius earlier ; I think that if the governements allow only these types of cars, it would really make a difference. But as long as only a small percent of the drivers choose to use enveironmental-friendly cars, we're not getting very far. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.13.200.194 (talk) 11:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

AMAZED
SEEM'S WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST AN WE'VE GOT WHAT WE'VE WANTED IT MUST BE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE THAT THESE GADGETS BEING MOVED AROUND THE WORLD.GOOD TO HEAR WE COULD AVOID THE ATMOSPHERE GETTING DAMAGED,THESE ARE STILL NOT GOING TO BE IT ALL,BUT CAN HELP GLOBAL WARMING.VERY NICE TO KNOW ABT THE WORLD TOUR.HOPE IT'S A MAJOR SUCCESS.ALL THE BEST WHO PUT THERE HEATRS TO WHAT THEY ARE DOIN..CHEERS...

I doubt that it was AROUND the world
I have seen a show where 2 men with MOTORCYCLES went around the world and when it came to Russia, they just about didn't do it, because of the poor roads and the conditions that existed. What was their course? Where was the "world" track that they went? How much was on a boat? How much time was spent finding a way through countries? Sure, you can go around the world if 50-70% is done on a ship. Roads through China, Russia and other countries (from what I have seen) is a nightmare. If they were all like the most of the roads in Europe and the US, then I can see how they could have made it around.

Tell us more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.219.133.131 (talk) 18:31, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

solar car uses battery trailer
How big a trailer would you need for a city bus? PerryO206.24.48.1 19:04, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

is there supposed to be a space in "per cent"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.237.137.194 (talk) 19:31, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
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I think solar powered cars will more likely be viable in regions like southern Africa where the sun shines over 300 days a year.196.36.81.14 10:13, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Solar Car
Great.. This is a great move in terms of saving our environment. Solar energy is the most useful resource of energy. We should make the optimum utilisation of this energy. Great going!! --117.192.160.25 (talk) 09:23, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

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More info on Vehicle contractors interested in commercial of desert touring useing solar with long term camping. —118.173.160.60 (talk) 07:12, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


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 * I cannot accept how a legitimately elected government can be overthrown by the parliament, one that has improved their majority in the last election at that. If they do this, what is the point of having an election? What Dion and his accomplices are doing is overwriting the decision of the Canadian citizens and voting their own concocted government using their convoluted reasoning. Politician voted government indeed. --d3j4vu 01:55, 9 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.167.15.163 (talk)

Anyone else find it odd that a Hatian-born, ex-radio host gets to choose how our country is run?

 * Well the previous GG was born in Hong Kong and was a TV host, so I guess it is par for the course. --SVTCobra 09:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Dion for king?
So the economy sucks. Harper tries to cut funding for political parties. Makes sense, gov't setting the good example. Dion says "no, i needs my monies!!" and bam we have a coup on our hands. Greedy greedy... Now Dion wants to throw $30 billion at the economy and has no clue where it's gonna come from. Better not be my pocket...
 * You're missing the point there. The Conservative Party gets most of its funding from religions and corporations. The other parties get most of their funding from standardized government payments. The "government funded political parties" thing is designed to make sure that the rich and the in-pocket-of-corporations parties can't dominate the government. So basically what went on here is that Prime Minister Harper attempted to (effectively) ban all other political parties by cutting off their only source of funding. The other parties naturally objected:P.

 * Harper has been as anti-democratic as it is possible for a Prime Minister to be, short of declaring martial law and deploying troops into the streets:P. His actions have been one short step away from criminal. What's sad is that the Canadian public is so disinterested in politics that they can't be bothered to even notice what he's been up to.

 * At this point it isn't even a matter of whether or not you're a Conservative supporter. Frankly if Joe Clark ran for Prime Minister I'd probably vote for him. But Harper? Liar. Cheater. The Conservatives REALLY need to get rid of that sorry excuse for a human and install someone that has honour and integrity, because Harper has neither. Gopher65talk 20:15, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. About time liberals actually did something. (Although i'm not really a fan of Dion. Too bad Layton or Elizabeth May doesn't really have a chance, ever). Bawolff ☺☻ 01:55, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Hypocrisy
So forming a coalition to overthrow the minority Paul Martin government was just fulfilling the will of the Canadian public, but forming a coalition to overthrow the minority Harper government is "undemocratic" ?

Politicians are all idiots.

cool —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.211.226.67 (talk) 02:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

i thought saddam was in charge of canaida —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.179.38.211 (talk) 06:26, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Yikes
Whoever photoshopped Harper's official portrait isn't so great with the paths tool... or much else, for that matter. A solid white BG with no feathering? at least put in a picture of Dion killing puppies for the background or something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.81.230.186 (talk) 14:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


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Passengers rescued from stranded Antarctic cruise ship

December 6, 2008

The Panamanian-flagged cruise ship MV Ushuaia, operated by Antarpply Expeditions of Argentina, ran aground near Cape Anna at the entrance to Wilhelmina Bay. Having been stuck on rocks in the Antarctic Peninsula, it suffered a puncture in two diesel fuel tanks, and was leaking fuel and taking on a "minimal amount of water." It had two cracks, but is not in danger of sinking. The passengers were rescued by Achiles, a Chilean Navy ship, which took them to Chile's Base Presidente Eduardo Frei Montalva in Antarctica. The station has a 1300 metre-long airstrip which can facilitate airlifts for the passengers. They will be taken by a Hercules C-130 plane to the Port of Ushuaia, from which they can be flown back to South America.

Argentine Admiral Daniel Martin Alberto said that the 89 passengers onboard were all in good health. Argentina and Chile are both sending a rescue mission to the stricken ship, with 40 crew members. The Antarctic Dream, at seven nautical miles away, was reported to have changed course to collect and transfer passengers to Tierra del Fuego. However, the Chilean Navy got to Ushuaia first.

The Australian Antarctic Division announced that "as well as the New Zealander, there were 11 Australians, 12 Americans, 14 Dutch, nine Germans, seven Britons, six Chinese, six Spaniards, five Swiss, three Italians, two Irish, two French, two Canadians, a Cypriot and a Belgian. The crew consisted of 28 Argentinians, eight Chileans, three Uruguayans, and one Spaniard."

Meanwhile, Jon Bowermaster, a writer aboard the National Geographic Explorer, described the situation: "We had hurricane winds yesterday — 103 miles per hour (166 kilometres per hour) and gusting — which may have contributed to the grounding."

Although there is no major leak, containment efforts are being made by Chilean navy ship Lautaro to stem the fuel leak, which has spread for half a mile around the stranded ship. Salvaging the ship, however, was proving more of a problem.


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I created this article since I found that many passengers were identified by NZ news and are on the way to be transferred to Tierra del Fuego; but the saving ship is still 7 nautical miles away.
 * Before creating this, I checked the articles created and this has not been made. But after creation, I found that this is already in Wiki news shorts. Is this alright? I am new here. Thanks.--Florentino Floro (talk) 08:06, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


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O. J. Simpson sentenced to 15 years in prison

December 6, 2008 Former United States football player O.J. Simpson was sentenced to prison for 15 years yesterday morning, on charges of kidnapping and armed robbery of two sports memorabilia dealers at a hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada. Simpson's accomplice in the crime, one Clarence Stewart, was also given a thirty-three year sentence. Both will be eligible for parole in five years. Simpson, aged 61, was arrested on twelve charges of kidnapping and armed robbery in which he and his accomplices used firearms to force two sports memorabilia dealers to give him several items that Simpson felt had been stolen from him.

Simpson, seeming close to tears, told the court for the first time on Friday that he was very sorry, and that he was only attempting to recover family heirlooms.

"I realize now that I was stupid, I didn't mean to hurt anyone, I'm sorry, I'm sorry for all of it," he said.

Judge Jackie Glass, however, described Simpson as arrogant and ignorant. "Everything in this case was on tape and it was your own words that have brought you here because we heard it all and what came out on the tapes [gave] evidence in this case was overwhelming," she said. "That was a violent event, guns were brought, at least one gun was drawn, the potential for harm in that room was tremendous," she continued. "You knew what was going on there. I have to tell you now that it was much more than stupidity."

Simpson will remain in solitary confinement for the entire period of the sentence due to his celebrity status. In total, Simpson will spend at least 9 years and as much as 33 years behind bars on a total of twelve charges.


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Throw away the key. 208.127.133.154 10:18, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Ludicrous
It is ludicrous both that he had the arrogance to do it and that he's only going to have to serve 5 years. BUT since they will all be served in solitary, his ex-wife's death will be some what avenged. FUCK OJ SIMPSON

PerryO206.24.48.1 21:06, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

the murders
yea, in jail he will get beat up —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.151.206 (talk) 00:35, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Karma —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.33.46.146 (talk) 02:52, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

He knows he killed those two before, yet still wont confess. This isnt half of bad as the karma he has on his soul. Just wait til he meets his cell neighbour Bubba, 6'6" of tatoos and cottage cheese flab thrusting his manhood where the sun has never met OJ. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.59.245.137 (talk) 04:17, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

How can OJ do this...
I am wondering why he did another crime. Dont you think the first one was enough, That was a hint saying "Oj, you are lucky that you got away from that one now stop and learn the morals". But to have his scene in Las Vegas is another, it seems that he didnt get the hint. But it was sortof good to own up to what he did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.86.96.83 (talk) 04:43, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

People are idiots
The judge said herself that this crime had nothing to do with the murders 13 years ago. As it should not. He was not on trial for that. The Sentence he received is not punishment for his past mistakes. He was found not guilty before, regardless of your opinion, he IS NOT GUILTY ACCORDING TO THE LAW. And thus, none of you have the right to judge him based on what happened in that trial for this one.

I for one am glad most of you are not judges. If you were, i would fear for my rights.

That being said, i dont have an opinion on Simpson, so call me a simpson-lover, i dont care. Respect his rights and his not-guilty status. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.138.221 (talk) 13:42, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Pulling that off at his age with his history and status shows a lot of I-don't-give-a-shit, or like the prosecutors said, "much more than stupidity" 24.30.16.34 16:29, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Oppinion
I think that O.J.'s solitary confinement is good he could do with a little time out of the spotlight for his own stupidity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.99.22.100 (talk) 20:33, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

the sentence is ludicrous.... all for a bit of threatening behaviour.... after all what are guns for ..in the great free west.dr.d.-124.107.6.107 14:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

he dint do it it woz a lie it was me —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.28.233.51 (talk • contribs)

Gee, why would anybody be surprised? He got away with murder so he probably thought he could get away with this too. Luckily this was a fair trial and he finally got what he deserved. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.140.46.137 (talk • contribs)

A Matter Of Opinion!!!
I will agree that O.J Simpson is not the brightest cookie in the jar, however no matter how dumb he may be fair is fair! O.J Simpson is guilty of stupidity that is for sure. But the sentence that O.J Simpson received truly shows how racist this society is. While it does not surprise me I had hoped that we were advancing as a society. The first O.J Simpson trial was a joke, and the second trial just showed how eager people are to get revenge. The only hope that O.J Simpson has is that there is a GOD! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Clyons12 (talk • contribs)
 * I'm sorry, his first trial was a joke? It was only a joke that he got off. There was DNA evidence! His blood was all over the scene! And his lawyer got that evidence thrown out of court because it sat in the back of the CSU guy's truck for a few hours. Umm... it takes DNA about 100,000 years to break down even when it is exposed to the elements. A few hours in the back of someone's truck won't do anything to it. It is damned tough stuff. So yeah, that trial was indeed a joke. (If I ever commit a crime, I really hope that I have Johnnie Cochran on my defense team. If he can get someone off when there is rockhard DNA evidence against them, he can get anyone off for anything, regardless of the evidence stacked against them.)

 * Course, this second trial was a crock of shit too. I think that it was conducted in a horribly unfair fashion. That sentence was way out of proportion for the crime that was committed. Most people just "revolving door" their way out of a fairly minor crime like that. The people who prosecuted him, as well as those who sentenced him, were obviously trying to get revenge on him for his earlier crimes, but that's not how the system is suppose to work. Gopher65talk 00:29, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

OJ Is A Coward
Im glad OJ is in jail, its about time that he gets what he desevers. I hope he rots in hell.. He is a murderious prick —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.87.234.180 (talk) 00:20, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

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IT IS FAULTY AS FUCK —108.91.72.213 (talk) 17:17, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

spiteful
this is the most spiteful thing! it was done out of revenge for niochol. 33 yrs for atemting to retrieve something that belongs to you? he was set up bad. feel sorry for him


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Comments:2008-09-21: CCTV footage shows bombing of Marriott Hotel in Islamabad, Pakistan

Bad
i think this is disgraceful they should all be shot

Bombing of Marriott Hotel was planned
It seems everything is going against Pakistan these days. People in this part of the region facing electricity issues, raise in prices for wheat, rice, oil. We are out of gas and oil prices in the whole world can be seen on decrement but in Pakistan there is a slight change that is somewhat not much effective for a common state man.

Marriott blast was a hit on Pakistan's ecenomical structure and its been noticed that a large number of investments and investors were waved out of the scene later on with the effect of this catastrophic event.

A person with common sense cleary can indicate impact of a series of mishaps on future prospects of Pakistan. The way world is responding to these conditions for a Frnot Line State against terrorism to ensure peace of the whole world is perhaps far to level it should be. People living in this country are being killed every day by drone attacks and under the flag of anti terrorism. Most of those are innocent and statistical avarage clearly indicates that 90% population killed so far has had nothing to do with illegal activities.

Perhaps this is the time when democratic represtators needs to see what exactly is going on in this part of the world.

Pakistan is not acceptable country for the most of internatioanl players on broader picture for its Nuclear capability and also because this country have 4th biggest army of the world. This recipe is perhaps not an advantage for current super power to meet their goals to attain their repect as a single entity or as supereme power of the world.

A continuum in agenda or acts imposed by the Bush administration and propeganda by American think tanks relevant to Balochistan area and tribal area of Pakistan (FATA), it seems support for emerging a power for insurgency in China and Pakistan is undergoing.

This is the time for political leaders to play their part to counter current sittuation other wise if things ever straighten up for past time invadors, no one will be able to control any thing in this region.


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US November job losses reach 34-year high

December 5, 2008 🇺🇸The United States Labor Department reported that U.S. employers cut 533,000 jobs in November, the largest such monthly cut in 34 years. In another indication of the worsening economic situation in the U.S., the unemployment rate reached a 15-year high of 6.7 percent, from 6.5 percent in October.

It was the largest job loss in a single month since December 1974, when 604,000 jobs were cut.

More job cuts have been announced since these figures were compiled, with 12,000 job cuts expected at telecommunications company AT&T. The economy has now lost 1.26 million jobs in the past three months, after 403,000 jobs were lost in September and a further 320,000 in October. Job losses since the beginning of 2008 total 1.91 million.

The job losses were "much worse than expected," said Peter Morici, a business professor at the University of Maryland. "The threat of widespread depression is now real and present," he added. "Factoring in discouraged workers, unemployment is closer to 8.7 percent. Add in part-time positions that cannot find full-time employment, and the hidden unemployment rate is nearly 13 percent."

The Wall Street stock market reacted to the news negatively: the Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 171 points in the first thirty minutes of trading, going down to 8,206 points. The other two major indexes, the Nasdaq Composite and the S&P 500, also lost ground.

The U.S. gross domestic product in the fourth quarter is projected to drop by as much as five percent at an annual rate, according to IHS Global Insight. An unemployment rate of nine percent has been predicted by Goldman Sachs.


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Lockerbie convict's family among protesters for justice in Edinburgh

December 5, 2008

The wife and children of Abdel Baset Ali al-Megrahi, a Libyan man convicted of the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103, were amongst other relatives and friends of prisoners protesting against alleged miscarriages of justice in Edinburgh yesterday. The airliner came down over Lockerbie, Scotland in December 1988, killing 270 people.

Megrahi is due an appeal against his conviction next year. Also present at the unprecedented "Silent Walk For Justice" was the family of Jason MacIntyre, a champion cyclist killed when Robert McTaggart ran him down in a van in January, for which he received a six month driving ban after conviction of careless driving. MacIntyre's wife said McTaggert should have instead been charged with causing death by dangerous driving.

Also present was the mother of Luke Mitchell, a 48-year-old convicted in 2005 of the murder of teenager Jodi Jones, his then girlfriend. She carried a poster saying "miscarriages of justice have no voice" and says fresh evidence has surfaced that warrants a new appeal and a new legal team has been appointed to represent him.

The march was organised by Swede Annie Börjesson's mother and her best friend Maria Jansson, who between them campaigned for a fatal accident inquiry after Annie's body was found washed ashore at Prestwick in December 2005. Ms Jansson said the march was an event for people who felt let down by the legal system and not about individual cases, saying "We are not here to judge each other or measure each other – we are here because we are humans."

Despite this, around 30 people surrounded Megrahi's wife Aisha and their four sons Khalid, Mohamed, Ali and Moutasim to support them, holding posters with Megrahi on them. The marchers travelled down the Royal Mile to the Scottish Parliament Building, then held a candlelit vigil.

Outside the building, Mr al-Megrahi's lawyer Tony Kelly read a statement on behalf of Aisha. "My children and I are here today to give support to my husband, Abdelbaset, who is a victim of a miscarriage of justice and terminally ill, and also to give support to all those other victims of miscarriages of justice," it said. "We are here for the sake of all these innocent souls who are suffering in silence. I would like to thank all those who continue to support him, pray for him and express sympathy with him."

She also asked for the 'compassionate' people of Scotland to "consider the suffering of my husband", saying of him: "He is an innocent and very ill man who is suffering every day from the psychological and physical stress. Let us pray for justice and the accomplishment of the truth."


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University's lion mascot out like a lamb after DUI

December 5, 2008 Another member of the Pennsylvania State University's cheerleading squad will step in to play the Nittany Lion at the 2009 Rose Bowl, after the main performer was suspended after being charged with DUI and summary traffic violations late last month. Penn State is the largest university in Pennsylvania and among the ten largest public universities in the United States.

Pennsylvanian James Sheep was charged with driving under the influence on November 22. Cheerleading coach Curt White told the Associated Press that Sheep will return later in 2009. The duration of the suspension was not mentioned.

Sheep was pulled over on campus at 3:16 am November 22, before Penn's game versus Michigan State. He registered a .164 blood alcohol level. Penn State won the game 49-18.

Sheep has avoided interview requests by The Daily Collegian, Penn State's newspaper, on multiple occasions.

In a statement, White commented: "James has been a very enthusiastic and hard-working Nittany Lion, but we are disappointed that his recent actions did not represent the high standards of this position. We are planning to have James resume his duties in the new year and are confident that he will represent Penn State Athletics and the University with a high level of energy, dedication and respect."

The Pennsylvania State University website lists Sheep on their website as the Lion from 2007-2008, conflicting with coach White's comment that he would return in the new year.

The mascot was introduced in 1907, brought in as a costume character in 1921, and is even the subject of the book The Nittany Lion: An Illustrated Tale. While most American university mascots change in appearance over the decades, the Nittany Lion remains essentially the same design as it has for generations.

Some earlier reports suggested that "46 current or former Penn State [football] players have been charged with crimes on 163 counts in the past six seasons." Of those players charged, 27 were found guilty of at least one charge.


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Comments:Congressional panel concludes Gulf War Syndrome a legitimate condition

I'm so glad my Dad never got Gulf War Syndrome. But why so effing long?

Gulf War Syndrom Does exist - From Iraqi Weapons of MD
Our soldiers contracted cancer and brain damage from weapons Nancy Polosi and Teddy Kennedy said did not exist!! It is a sad commemtary on our society that politics comes before comes before compassion and care for our military. PerryO206.24.48.1

 * you're an idiot. these are not the WMD's the bush admin spoke of to justify invading iraq.  - Imind (talk) 01:50, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Iraq/Saddam DID have WMD. He used them on his own people. Although he didn't have the stockpile that Bush had claimed, he more than likely still had a few things laying around. There would have been no reason for him to not have had any. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:53, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

'''Iraqi Insurgent had got their hands on WMD's but noting big and used them as IEDs.--66.229.21.217 04:36, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

 * the only ones he had, the ones he used on his people, are the ones the US gave him. - Imind (talk) 19:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Toxic exposure not supposed WMD
Everything I know about this points to toxic exposure as the cause, all sorts of weird interactions of the vaccines with heavy metals. But was it from the depleted uranium tank shells that we were firing, another of our weapons, or something else that ended up being toxic to our forces back in the last justifiable war? 68.210.75.161 05:55, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Bravo
Only took them 15+ years, too. A new record! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.81.230.186 (talk) 14:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

It says right in the article what caused it
It was the pills they took to counter the effects of anthrax, the government thought that Saddam would use anthrax on them (which we gave him way back when we funded him) so they rushed it and ended up giving their soldiers pills which they knew had caused serious health problems, but they didn't care. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soapy (talk • contribs) 04:55, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

"Gulf War Syndrome" is without doubt one of the biggest cover ups of all time in the history of mankind! So what are we going to do about it? accept it OR smash the bastards responsible for this heinous crime.


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 * I agree the title is a little punny, and might confuse people, even if they know the idiom "if March comes in like a lion, it will go out like a lamb." I chose the title because of the punyness of the guy's last name being Sheeps. --  Zanimum (talk) 19:11, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I read the article and I still have no idea what DUI is? Also the football link is broken, is it maeant to link to wikipedia American footballBilllion (talk) 16:56, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh I get it. Driving under the influence (of alchohol?). How are people meant to know this TLA? is it a local abbreviation? Billlion (talk) 16:58, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
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Car bomb kills seventeen in Pakistan

December 5, 2008 A bombing has occurred the Pakistani city of Peshawar, killing at least 17 and injuring at least 47 others.

Asif Ali Zardari, the acting President of Pakistan, strongly condemned the attacks. He has also stated that the perpetrators of the attacks will be found and brought to justice, and expressed his condolences to the families of the dead.

He also stated, in response to the attacks, that his country was committed to fighting terrorism.

Mohammed Bilal was one of the people injured in the attack. He commented on his experiences of the blast. "Something struck me in face, and I fell down. There was fire and smoke and the cries of the injured people," he stated.

Local police chief Naveed Khan also commented on the incident. He stated that "it is not possible to prevent this kind of terrorism unless you have extremely credible information." Khan also suggested that chemicals intended to increase the spread of fire were contained in the bomb.

The attack destroyed a hotel, a mosque, and set fire to several shops.

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Talk:US November job losses reach 34-year high

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Not very Notable
This seems more relevant for a College Newspaper or a Community newsletter.--BLaafg (talk) 20:34, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:O. J. Simpson sentenced to 15 years in prison

33 years
33 is not correct. He was sentenced to 15 years, I watched it myself. The 33 comes from so-called legal experts who say he can be in jail for as long as 33 years, no less than 15, with possibility of parole in 9 years. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 16:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It should be renamed back to the way it was.--SVTCobra 18:17, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

HE was sentenced to 15 years in prison. Why are people arguing this?
15 years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.138.221 (talk) 13:39, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Parole
The article cited on this page,, says parole in 5 years, but the page used on the Wikipedia Current Events page, , says 9 years. Which is it? --Gimmethegepgun (talk) 01:19, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

This article is incredibly confusing
At various points it says he was sentenced to 15 years, eligible for parole in five years, behind bars at least 9 years and as much as 33 years.


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Wikinews Shorts: December 6, 2008

BMW vehicle sales lower by a quarter
The global monthly sales of German car maker BMW have fallen by more than a quarter, as consumers are spending less due to the economic slowdown.

According to the company, BMW sales have fallen 26.2% in November from a year ago, whilst sales of its Mini subsidiary, which is based in the United Kingdom, were 20.8% lower. Sales in November for BMW's luxury Rolls-Royce branch were also down 18.5%.

From the period of January to November, the company sold 1.32 million cars, 1.8 percent fewer than last year, when it sold 1.34 million vehicles.

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NASA delays Mars mission
The United States space agency NASA has put off the launch of Mars Science Laboratory rover mission. It was scheduled to fly next year, but the mission has been delayed by testing and hardware problems.

According to agency officials, the launch of the rover would be postponed until 2011. The delay could add US$400 million to the cost of the mission, which is likely to be higher than $2 billion.

"We will not lessen our standards for testing the mission's complex flight systems, so we are choosing the more responsible option of changing the launch date," said Dough McCuistion, the director NASA's Mars program.

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Number of Canadian soldier deaths in Afghanistan reaches 100
Three Canadian soldiers were killed by a bomb in southern Afghanistan Friday, bringing the number of Canadian military casualties in the war to 100.

Canada's top commander in Afghanistan, Brigadier General Denis Thompson, said that his troops were bringing "peace and stability" to the country. 2,500 Canadian troops are based in southern Afghanistan as part of NATO's mission to defeat the Taliban.

Canada's military presence in Afghanistan is due to end in 2011.

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Record jewelery heist in Paris, France
Armed robbers pulled off a record jewelery heist in Paris, France when they on Thursday robbed the Harry Winston store near Avenue des Champs-Élysées.

Four male thieves, two of whom where dressed as women, stole most of the inventory of the high-profile boutique. The loot has been valued at €85 million (US$107 million).

The robbers brandished firearms and forced fifteen customers and staff into a corner of the store. No shots were fired and no one is reported hurt. Police have no immediate leads.

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Southern California hit by 5.1 earthquake

December 6, 2008 According to the United States Geological Survey (USGS), Southern California in the United States has been struck by a magnitude 5.1 earthquake. The quake struck at 8:18 p.m. (Pacific Time) on Friday night.

The epicenter was located 56 kilometers (35 miles) East of Barstow and 188 k.m. (116 miles) East, Northeast of Los Angeles. So far there are no reports of damage or injuries. Over 21,000 people live in Barstow.

"[The quake was] relatively shallow and if it were located in a more populated area it could be very damaging, but it's out in the middle of the desert, in the middle of nowhere," said Richard Buckmaster, a seismologist for the USGS.

The quake was recorded at a depth of 5 km (3.1 miles). Reports say that the shaking could be felt as far away as San Diego where it shook the sheriff's office building. The shaking was also felt in Los Angeles. Nearly a dozen aftershocks ranging from magnitudes 1.0 to 2.5, have been recorded in the same location since the main event.

Recently, a magnitude 5.4 earthquake struck downtown Los Angeles, but caused no damage or injuries. The earthquake's epicenter was located near a golf course in an upscale community 3 km (2 miles) Southwest from Chino Hills, or 47 km (29 miles) East, Southeast of Los Angeles. The most recent damaging quake to hit Southern California was the January 17, 1994 Northridge quake in Reseda. That quake had a magnitude of 6.7, and killed 72 people and injured over 9,000.


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Talk:Leaked online: UK Home Office non-disclosure agreement with ID card companies

Original Reporting
Refers to reading primary source documents from Wikileaks. (I'm still not that willing to link to the document directly after the LDS complaint but click on the source and you will be able to download the file to verify - although I am not suggesting you do that) Anonymous101talk 09:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Lockerbie convict's family among protesters for justice in Edinburgh

justice4brendan...FTK2!
Miscarraiges of justice have risen in Scotland, we should all be ashamed of ourselves for not doing enough to highlight them more..

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=8088760349

justice4brendan and all scots nationals held in our corrupt system.

Dr Hans Kochler, Advisor to the United Nations on Democracy and Human Rights, is on record comparing the administration and application of Law in Scotland to that that of a 'Banana Republic', applying the term 'Totalitarian' in a separate interview.

The blatant inequalities perpetrated by the monopoly overseen by the Law Society of Scotland, and its allegiance to the disgraced insurance provider Marsh, require every Scottish Solicitor to rely upon Marsh - and no other - for Professional Indemnity Insurance.

While the abuses which have arisen from this monolply have long since been known and complained of, no major UK Political Party has addressed the matter in any meaningful or sincere fashion.

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Talk:Lawsuit: Hernandez vs IGE

I'd like to add the resolution of the case. Source: http://virtuallyblind.com/files/hernandez/pierce_declaration_august.pdf Brock_Pierce, the "sole Managing Member and sole officer of [w:IGE US]" declared that, six days before the suit was filed, everything that IGE owned had been sold to Affinity Media Holdings. In the end, IGE US was barred from selling World of Warcraft gold, or farming, etc., for five years. But, since IGE US didn't own IGE.com since just before the suit was filed, the decision won't impact Affinity Media Holdings or the IGE.com website.

"The lawsuit will be dismissed “with prejudice” (meaning that it cannot be refiled) only with respect to the named plaintiff, Antonio Hernandez. Any of the remaining members of the proposed class (the other ten million or so people who play World of Warcraft) are free to refile the suit against other defendants, such at Atlas and or Affinity, if they want to."

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Wrong official magnitude
We reissued the event with a 5.1 magnitude at a depth of 5 km (3.1 miles). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.177.36.71 (talk) 19:46, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


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Honda quits Formula One racing

December 6, 2008 Takeo Fukui, the President and CEO of Honda made a statement on Friday that the company will leave Formula One before the 2009 season.

Among the causes of this decision were the problems in the global auto industry, and the general economic crisis. It is estimated that Honda had an annual budget of US$500m for the team in 2008.

The team Honda Racing led by Nick Fry (CEO) and Ross Brawn (Team principal) will have three months to find a new owner. It may still be using Honda's engines, as, previously, the BAR-Honda team. Nick Fry said three potential bidders had already emerged. Honda’s 2008 race drivers, Jenson Button and Rubens Barrichello, still are not confirmed for 2009, nor is the GP2 star Bruno Senna, the nephew of Ayrton Senna, his prospects to enter the Formula One now faded but still exist.

The pullout has raised fears that another major Japanese automotive giant, Toyota, may also quit its team Toyota F1.

Earlier Dietrich Mateschitz's Red Bull became the sole proprietor over Toro Rosso after Gerhard Berger sold his shares of the team. It was said to be done to make selling the team easier.

The 2009 Formula One season will begin on March 29, with the Australian Grand Prix in Melbourne.

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Brazil blames human error for 2006 midair airliner collision

December 6, 2008 It has been revealed that the final report into a midair collision that killed 154 people in 2006 will blame a string of human error for the disaster. Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907, a Boeing 737, crashed into the ground after an Embraer Legacy 600 executive jet's wing clipped it. The Legacy, owned by ExcelAire, performed an emergency landing at a nearby airbase.

The report says the Legacy's transponder was "inadvertently turned off by the hand of one of the pilots," and says this was the "central point in a chain of errors" leading to the collision. Crucially, the transponder failure - which the US pilots have denied causing - prevented the Traffic Collision Avoidance System (TCAS) from functioning. The investigation, which was conducted by the Brazilian Air Force, criticised air traffic control (ATC) on a number of points; the Legacy was not properly advised on the altitude at which it should be cruising, when one controller changed shift there was a miscommunication between them about the Legacy's altitude and there was a failure of communication between the Legacy and ATC.

The ExcelAire pilots, Joseph Lepore and Jan Paladino, were only allowed to return home after promising they would return to Brazil if summoned by the courts. The pair, along with four air traffic controllers, have been indicted over the crash and all six face up to three years in prison each. The purpose of this investigation, however, was not to acertain blame but to determine the root causes and suggest measures by which a reccurence can be avoided. Some moves have already been made in the aftermath; the accident was the deadliest in Brazil until TAM Airlines Flight 3054 crashed the following year and both were responsible for the 2006-2007 Brazilian aviation crisis. In response, a major overhaul of the nation's military ATC system is underway.

ExcelAire's executive vice president David Rimmer was critical of the report. "The transponder issue is a distraction from the true cause of the accident, which is an air traffic control system that put two airplanes on a collision course for about an hour," he said. He complained that ATC did not "recognize the transponder failure and to provide increased separation between the two jets, as required by international aviation regulations."

He was also concerned by the Air Force's methodology and the conclusions drawn from it. "We have no proof of how the transponder was turned off and no evidence to suggest it was inadvertently turned off by the pilots," he said. "[The Air Force] relied on theories rather than conducting in-depth testing of the equipment."

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Violators to be jailed without trial
PUNISHMENT WILL BE SEVERE.It has been aggreed thAT ANY VIOLATORS WILL BE SHIPPED TO GUANTANAMO PRISON TO BE HELD UNTIL GUY FAWLKES (SP) DAY. They may be subject to bread boarding and other tortures, such Bach and Mozart overtures! PerryO206.24.48.1 18:30, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Truly a monstrous proposition. I, for one, will instantly reverse my vote. Or I would if I wasn't an apathetic non-voter... This smacks of conspiracy, but it's not a REAL conspiracy, is it? It says something about the british, they don't just do a conspiracy like most countries would, they actually write the paperwork and file records about it. Legendarily bureaucratic. --194.80.32.8 21:11, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


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British ISPs restrict access to Wikipedia amid child pornography allegations

December 7, 2008

Wikinews has learned at least six of the United Kingdom's main Internet Service Providers (ISPs) have implemented monitoring and filtering mechanisms that are causing major problems for UK contributors on websites operated by the Wikimedia Foundation, in addition to 1,200 other websites. The filters appear to be applied because Wikimedia sites are hosting a Scorpions album cover which some call child pornography. Scorpions are a German hard rock band who have used several controversial album covers and are perhaps best known for the song Rock You Like a Hurricane.

The measures applied redirect traffic for a significant portion of the UK's Internet population through six servers which can log and filter the content available to the end user. A serious side-effect of this is the inability of administrators on Wikimedia sites to block vandals, and other troublemakers, without potentially impacting hundreds of thousands of innocent UK contributors who work on WMF sites in good faith.

The filtering is in response to the Internet Watch Foundation's list of websites that host content reported to contain inappropriate images of naked children. The IWF considers those images child pornography. However, in the United States, where the websites of the Wikimedia Foundation are hosted, it is not considered obscene under the criteria of the Miller test, which requires that an obscene work lack "serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value" - as album art is used to "brand" the album, it is considered to be artistic.

Contributors or individuals attempting to view an affected image or file, depending on their ISP, may get a warning saying, "we have blocked this page because, according to the Internet Watch Foundation (IWF), it contains indecent images of children or pointers to them; you could be breaking UK law if you viewed the page." Other ISPs provide blank pages, 404 errors, or other means of blocking the content. Due to a configuration mistake at one Internet service provider, some users have reported being totally unable to access Wikimedia sites to the Wikipedia technical help desk.

"The Protection of Children Act 1978 as amended in the Sexual Offences Act 2003, makes it an offence to take, make, permit to be taken, distribute, show, possess with intent to distribute, and advertise indecent photographs or pseudo-photographs of children under the age of eighteen. The 'making' of such images includes downloading, that is, making a copy of a child sexual abuse image on a computer, so, in the UK, accessing such content online is a serious criminal offence," says the IWF on their website in an article updated on November 28. The IWF say there are at least 800 to 1,200 websites on the list of those who host or contain offensive material. The list is not public and the IWF never notified Wikimedia Foundation about the blocking of Wikipedia content. The affected page does not display any message informing the user about blocked content on most ISPs, instead, a technical error message is shown.

However, Demon Internet redirects users to a block message on the IWF's site explaining that the page was blocked as the organization suspects child porn or links to it to be present. The IWF states that, "we do not notify site owners that their websites are on our list."

The concern for Wikimedia is for some images like an album cover from a 1976 record of the Scorpions titled Virgin Killer. It displays an underage girl, posing nude, with a lens crack crossing over her genitals, but nothing blocking out her breasts. The girl appears to be around ten years old. In the U.S., the band later replaced the image with one of the group. The cover was uploaded to Wikipedia in 2006, but Wikinews learned that on May 9, 2008 at (21:17 UTC), despite a result of strong consensus to 'keep' in a deletion request, the image was deleted, however for a different reason. It was deleted due to a claim by an administrator that it violated Wikipedia's policy for dealing with copyrighted images, which require that any images used under the doctrine of fair use must alongside other criteria, "significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding", with the administrator claiming that the article "lacked meaningful discussion" of the album art. This result was overturned using the deletion review process. Earlier, on December 6, the image was put back up for a deletion request, but it was later closed as Wikimedia "does not censor".

Another image that is questionable could be a screenshot from the 1938 film Child Bride. Its goal was to bring to light the attempts at banning child marriages. In the article on Wikipedia, a screenshot appears of then 12-year-old Shirley Mills partially naked after skinny dipping. In the photo, at least one of her breasts can be seen.

Other albums featuring nudity below the age of sixteen have previously caused controversy; Blind Faith attracted criticism as did Houses of the Holy, and Nirvana's Nevermind.

Multiple companies have gone public stating that they implement the recommendations of the Internet Watch Foundation. Not all of these are known to have implemented measures against Wikimedia sites; the major UK ISPs thought to have affected Wikimedia sites are Telefonica O2/Be Unlimited, Virgin Media, Easynet, Plusnet, Demon, and Opal Telecommunications (TalkTalk).

Wikinews has contacted Wikimedia's legal counsel, Mike Godwin and the IWF for a statement, but neither have replied as of this time.