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I think the place to start is with the first version (interview form). But I think in your case, with two interviewees, the colors don't fit well. My suggestion would be to use the following:

 * Wikinews : Question 1?

 * Person1: Blah blah.
 * Person2: Blah blah.

 * WN : Question 2?

 * P1: Blah blah.
 * P2: Blah blah.

Let me know if you have any other questions; I'm willing to help out with the article's formatting and such. Ral315 06:51, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 07:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Work Notes

 * Started: Jan 2003
 * Merged with Torrentbox: April, 2005
 * Stats:Sites: 186, Trackers: 11858, Online Torrents: 249639, Files: 3.79 mil, Size: 145.16 TB, Peers: 5.23 mil, Forums: 449725 users

 * Suprnova: ~ April 2003

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> Hi Gary, > Thanks for your paricipation. What I will do before I publish the > article is send you a copy so you can ensure that eveything is correct. > 1. How long have you been running isohunt and it's sister sites?

isoHunt.com Since Jan. 2003. TorrentBox.com I got from my friend Hohead because he didn't want to run it anymore.

> 2. Why did you start them?

For fun, and to learn web programming (PHP and Mysql). Also a web search engine for P2P networks has not been done, and would be useful.

> 3. I read on your site that you are yet to receive formal notification > of the lawsuit, how did you find out? How did you react?

I found out first from Mike at Slyck.com, who have received letters of the press release, along with other news outlets like CNet. Within a few hours all the news sites posted about it.

> 4. Do you feel it is appropriate for the MPAA to publically announce > that they have commenced action against your sites and others before you > even receive notification?

Yes, although not surprising. Factually speaking, industry associations like the MPAA often uses the threat of pending lawsuits to intimidate to-be defendants, and it serves their purpose of spreading FUD to the public at large.

> 5. Have you ever received a takedown notice from any company in > accordance with the DMCA?

At least once a day, often many times a day. I've lost count of how many takedown requests we've received now, it would be at least in the hundreds if not a thousand. We have a thorough copyright policy outlining our stance, compliance and procedures: http://isohunt.com/dmca-copyright.php. Some of them come back and actually thank us with satisfaction for our prompt processing. For others, indie content producers like TV show producers, we actually talk to them about using BitTorrent to aid their distribution. And such partnership is in the works.

> 6. If you have received a take down notice, how do you go about dealing > with them?

We verify their authenticity, whether identified works are within their copyright, and disable them if found to be aiding in possible copyright infringement.

> 7. What was your response to the letters sent to you by the MPAA a year ago?

I already posted my last reply to the series of letter on our site: http://isohunt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9273&highlight=mpaa

They have not followed up after that, until now.

> 8. Do you think the service you provide is any different to that of > major search engines such as Google and Yahoo?

No. We are all search engines, only designed for different markets. "Torrents" for example are metadata pointers that describe and link to resources on BitTorrent swarms. Google and isoHunt for example are different only in forms of links and types of data they index. Both serve the purpose of organizing information on open networks on the internet (WWW vs. P2P), and making them useful and searchable.

> Is there anything else you would like to see published?

If you like, you can see the other interview I did with Slyck.com: http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=679

> If there is anything that you can't or do not want to answer please > leave it. > Cheers, > Nathan.

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Intelligence agencies warned about growing local insurgency in late 2003

March 1, 2006

Knight Ridder reports that "U.S. intelligence agencies repeatedly warned the White House beginning more than two years ago that the insurgency in Iraq had deep local roots, was likely to worsen and could lead to civil war, according to former senior intelligence officials who helped craft the reports."

This is in stark contrast to public statements made by the Bush administration. In his November 1 radio address President Bush said "Some of the killers behind these attacks are loyalists of the Saddam regime who seek to regain power and who resent Iraq's new freedoms. Others are foreigners who have traveled to Iraq to spread fear and chaos. ... The terrorists and the Baathists hope to weaken our will. Our will cannot be shaken."

In a May 2005 interview Vice President Cheney said "I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency."

Accoding to Robert Hutchings, the chairman of the National Intelligence Council from 2003 to 2005, and now diplomat in residence at Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, there was a "steady stream" of intelligence reports warning Bush and his administration that the insurgency was intensifying and expanding, including a major study, called a National Intelligence Estimate, which was completed in October 2003.

Hutchings said that from early 2003 on the intelligence reports reflected that there were "signs of incipient civil war".

"Frankly, senior officials simply weren't ready to pay attention to analysis that didn't conform to their own optimistic scenarios," Hutchings told Knight Ridder.

The office of Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte declined Tuesday to comment on the Knight Ridder article.

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Sydney woman charged in Perth heroin seizure

March 1, 2006

Australian Federal Police have charged a 37-year-old Vietnamese-born Australian woman after 2.6 kilograms of heroin was allegedly found in the lining of her suitcase.

Thitanh Ho and her two children, aged 18 months and three years, were travelling to Australia from Singapore. The woman's bags were selected for closer inspection when her behaviour aroused the suspicion of customs officials.

"Upon closer examination, customs officers discovered a white powder, which allegedly tested positive for heroin," said a customs officer.

Senator Chris Ellison, Minister for Justice and Customs, said the detection was the largest seizure of heroin at the border in Western Australia for 12 years. “This seizure sends a clear message to those who attempt to import drugs that they will be caught,” he said.

Australian Federal Police spokesman Peter Wood said officers are investigating possible distribution networks. “Obviously we are looking at the source of the drugs and we're also looking to identify the network here in Australia where it was going to be distributed to," he said.

Ho appeared before Perth Magistrates' Court today charged with importing a border-controlled drug. She was remanded into custody and her children were placed into Government care.

The maximum penalty for drug trafficking is a fine of up to AU$750,000 and/or life imprisonment.

The arrest comes just three months after Singapore executed convicted Australian drug trafficker Nguyen Tuong Van.


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Brisbane woman charged with Sizzler poisoning

March 1, 2006

Queensland, Australia police have charged a 57-year-old woman with the alleged contamination of the salad bar at two Sizzler restaurants.

Rat poison pellets were found in food at Sizzler restaurants at Toowong on January 20 and the Brisbane Myer Centre outlet last Sunday. Yesterday Sizzler closed salad bars nationwide, but they did not report the incidents to the Queensland Health Department until last Monday.

Queensland’s Health Minister Stephen Robertson criticised the restaurant chain for delaying reporting a possible incident of food contamination for 37 days. "I think this is a case that - a real life case - that we should perhaps learn some lessons from,” he said.

Queensland Police Inspector Bob Hytch said the woman is the same woman police asked to come forward after she told Sizzler staff she had found pellets in soup at the Myer Centre restaurant last Saturday.

The woman is expected to face Brisbane Magistrates' Court tomorrow charged with two counts of contamination of goods and four counts of an act intending to cause grievous bodily harm.


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Talk:Sydney woman charged in Perth heroin seizure

The title of this story is: "Sydney woman charged with Perth heroin seizure." The use of the word with implies that the woman herself seized the heroin, and that she was being charged with taking possession of it. The proper wording of the headline should be, "Sydney woman charged in Perth heroin seizure." --Modemac 12:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


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Possible first case of mad cow disease in Sweden

March 1, 2006 A suspected case of BSE, better known as mad cow disease, has been discovered in Sweden at a farm near Västerås some 80 kilometres west of Stockholm.

The affected farm has been quarantined and no ruminants from the farm are allowed to be sold or transported. The cow was destroyed earlier after symptoms of calving paralysis had been discovered, and the tests where carried out in accordance to rules set by the European Union (EU).

The Swedish Board of Agriculture (Jordbruksverket) analysed a specimen from the cow at the farm this weekend. The tests confirmed the presence of BSE and the specimen was sent for further analysis at a United Kingdom laboratory.

If the British analysis confirms BSE in the specimen, it will be the first case of BSE in Sweden. The affected farmer told the Swedish public service radio: "As my father said, if we have to make history it would be a pity to do it this way."

BSE isn't transmitted directly between animals, but rather from feedstuffs containing tainted tissues from infected ruminants to healthy animals. Such cattle feeds have been prohibited in Sweden for many years, but as the affected cow was born in 1994 she might have been given such food in her early life.

The disease has been declining in the EU after restrictions and regulations were put in place or tightened following an epidemic of the disease in humans in the UK. In that outbreak 150 people died.

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I translated this article from my own article on the Swedish Wikinews. There is probably a need for some fixes. I wasn't sure how to translate "kalvningsförlamning" so I just did a stupidly litteral translation wich became "calving paralysis". I'll try to keep an eye on the article to see if it needs my help. You can allways find on my Swedish talk page. Thank you for editing this article. / Mats Halldin 17:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Also, I translated the quote: "Som min far sa: Om vi ska gå till historien så vore det tråkigt om det skulle ske på det här viset" into "As my father said, if we have to make history it would be a pity to do it this way." But maybe there is a better way of translating it? The Swedish sentence litterary translates into: "As my father said: If we are going to history (then) it would (be) sad if it would be in this way". Someone more fluent in English might be able to think of how a farmer would put it in English? / Mats Halldin 17:35, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I looked at that quote, and I believe you said it as well as it could be said. Having grown up in farming communities, I believe the two ways it would be said are first the way you said it, or alternatively "As my father said, if we are going to make history this is a sad way to do it." -  Amgine | talk en.WN 17:45, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Thank you for copyediting, Amgine. I just noticed I might have misstranslated "Jordbruksverket" into "Swedish Departement of Agriculture". The English Wikipedia calls it Swedish National Board of Agriculture.
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Corruption blamed for Papuan rainforest destruction

March 2, 2006 A new report on the commercial logging industry in Papua New Guinea (PNG) released by international forestry organization, Forest Trends, shows that the overwhelming majority of current commercial industrial forestry operations in PNG are ecologically and economically unsustainable.

Foreign logging companies are in open defiance of the law and cutting down Papua New Guinea's rainforests, thanks to corruption and government inaction, the report alleges. Washington-based environmental group, Forest Trends, linked Malaysian loggers to Papua New Guinea's political elite. It described working conditions as "modern-day slavery" and said forests were effectively being logged out.

While the PNG Government does have laws and regulations to ensure sustainable timber production, these were not being enforced, the report states. It identified "a political vacuum with no demonstrated government interest in controlling the problems in the sector."

The report summarised independent reviews of the timber industry between 2000 and 2005. Forest Trends claimed corruption had devastated rural living standards and ignored the basic rights of landowners: "There are a few logging operations in the country which are deemed beneficial to both local landowners and the country, but they are lost in a sea of bad operators. The Government needs to support these companies, or risk having the international community boycott all of PNG's exports."

Natural forests are being chopped down unsustainably, mostly by Malaysian companies, the organisation says.

It reports that much of the labour is imported, and says that Papua New Guineans are not getting an acceptable return for the logging while one of the country's precious natural resources is dwindling. Most of the timber is exported to China, and is often turned into products for export to Western countries.

If foresting continues in this manner, they warn, Papua New Guinea could be bereft of its natural cover in a decade.

"The system must be fixed," said Michael Jenkins, President & CEO of Forest Trends. "The nexus between the logging companies and the political elite needs to be broken. One way to do this is to help local landowners better understand their rights and to establish a legal fund so that they can be defended. Papua New Guinea's legal system does exist outside of political control and the courts have a track record of ruling against illegal logging."


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I've moved your article to User:64.26.98.74/Like It Or Not Israel Must Deal With Hamas Now because it is an editorial, which is a type of article which is not allowed in the main namespace on Wikinews (see What Wikinews is not for an explanation of why.) If you create a user account I will be happy to move it to your user space.

Thank you for your submission, and I hope to see more from you! -  Amgine | talk en.WN 20:42, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

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City Planning Board postpones decision on Buffalo, N.Y. hotel proposal

In an unanimous vote, the City of Buffalo's Planning Board voted to table the Elmwood Village hotel Proposal, postponing voting on legislation for up to 30 days.

The Board said its decision was due to the lack of public involvement, saying that there have not been enough meetings.

The Elmwood Village Hotel is a proposed project by Savarino Construction Services Corporation and was designed by Karl Frizlen of The Frizlen Group. The hotel would be placed on Elmwood and Forest Avenues in Buffalo, New York. In order for the hotel to be built, at least five buildings, that include both businesses and residents, must be demolished.

The Forever Elmwood Corp. is a Buffalo-based non-profit organization founded in 1994. Justin Azzarella, the Executive Director for the organization voiced support for the proposal, stating: "I am here today to lend Forever Elmwood's support the hotel project. Particularly, Forever Elmwood is encouraged by the fact that this building follows the more stringent Elmwood Village Design Guidelines. We have been speaking with Savarino Construction, and they have promised us [Forever Elmwood] that they will engage the community further, including the surrounding Block Clubs and businesses. For that reason, while Forever Elmwood is in support of this project and the type of project that it is, we are asking also that the project be tabled so that the community can be further engaged. Specifically the surrounding Block clubs which include the Granger, Claremont, Asland and The Lincoln Parkway Block Clubs."

"Because of the excellent work that Karl does and the game plan that they have, I think its an ideal use of this particular location. I think that this particular type of development needs to be encouraged and promoted as opposed to roadblocked," said a man who owns five properties near the proposal site.

However, Evelyn Bencinich, a resident of Granger Place and whose house would be located directly behind the hotel said, "My property value will be depreciated or non-existent because no one is going to want to live behind a multi-story hotel. We are facing up to a year of noisy and dangerous demolition and construction. Children, pets and even drunk rebellers could wander on site and get hurt. Traffic tie-ups caused by large machinery and garbage bins is inevitable. Where will pedestrians walk? We could experience increased unsanitary flooding in our yards and basements due to the digging and cementing for the underground parking garage. Rats will be displaced into the immediate neighborhoods and be in great abundance. Once we get past the year of nightmare construction, what if you build it and they don't come? We could ultimately have a seven million dollar rooming house on our corner."

Patty Morris, co-owner of Don Apparel with Nancy Pollina at 1119 Elmwood also asked that the project be tabled saying, "this has only been public knowledge for less than two weeks and the public never saw the redesign. How can you vote on anything that no one has seen yet? The Board cut off Morris saying, "so specifically you don't have any problem with it [the design] you just..." Morris then said, "Oh I am totally against this project, but thats besides the point isn't it."

Planning board wants hotel smaller
The planning board is also concerned that the current design may still be too big.

At one point Board member Susan Curran Hoyt said, "we know you've cut down your number of rooms on this project, but we still see it doesn't seem to fit the description of a 'botique' hotel," and asked Eva Hassett, Vice President of Savarino Construction, "we wonder if you could reduce the rooms further."

"One thing I didn't talk about was the price levels of these rooms and that will be important to know. The room rate will be somewhere between US$120 and $160 a night, which is about the same price of the Hampton Inn down town and the smaller you make the hotel, the more expensive the rooms will get. We believe that we've made a good compromise in terms of the size of the hotel and perhaps botique means different things to different people," said Hassett.

The board was also concerned that there is not enough parking asking, "are there alternative plans for valet parking off-site, in the event that you have a full hotel or a large event going on?"

"We are exploring several possibilities with respect to additional parking for valet and parking near-by," replied Hassett. "We are also exploring the possibility of using the rear of 1105 Elmwood for additional parking, which would give us an additional ten or eleven spaces."

The new design has a total of 55 parking spaces for 72 rooms, with 39 of them underground and the rest on ground level. Hassett also said that a "parking study" will be done on the area.

Concerns that the second floor of the hotel will be too close to the property of 605 Forest were also brought up. The board asked how far the hotel would be from the property and Karl Frizlen replied saying it would "be approximately five feet from the property line," but he also admitted that, "I do not know exactly how close the house next door" will be from the hotel, but did say "I think the house is about four or five feet away from the property line and we [the hotel] sit right on the property line."

The board is concerned the setback from the property is not enough saying the space between the building and the hotel is "pretty narrow."

Common Council also tables hotel proposal
The City's Common Council also agreed to table the proposal also citing the need for more public engagement and the need for more organizations to respond including the Buffalo Preservation Board and the Office of Historic Preservation.

During that meeting, Hassett also said the proposal to try and get a variance to obtain the properties of 605 and 607 Forest were "now off the agenda."

The Common Council is expected to meet and hold a public hearing about the project and the rezoning of the properties to be demolished (1119-1121 Elmwood) on Tuesday March 7, 2006 at 2:00 p.m. in Council Chambers at City Hall. At the moment the properties are not zoned for a hotel.


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Ok...I have so much tape to go through. I tried to write this yesterday and ended up closing the wrong window and lost ALL my work. I have to go through about 4 hours of recodings and have only gotten through about 1 hour and 20 minutes of recodings. I have new Pictures I will add as well. Jason Safoutin 20:47, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * All quotes and such are on tape. i am still looking for a way to get the recordings all online or uploaded. Jason Safoutin 01:02, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Great Work Jason
I think this is a great example of one of the applications of wikinews.

"What we want from YOU! We want you to write articles for Wikinews on topics that:You find interesting: If it's of interest to you, it will be interesting to many other people!..Are important to you: The news you write can be about a global event or what's happening in your local town — we don't mind!

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Saddam Hussein admits to requesting trials

March 1, 2006

Former leader of Iraq Saddam Hussein has admitted before the court on Wednesday that he had ordered the trial of Shia Muslims, 148 of which were ultimately executed, as well as the 1982 raze on the farming village of after an assassination attempt by members of the  party. During the raze, 1,500 residents were incarcerated and tortured, and over 1,000 square kilometers of land was destroyed. The town was rebuilt shortly after the attack.

The former leader defended his actions and suggested that the court should be trying him, and him alone.

"I razed them... we specified the farmland of those who were convicted and I signed," he told the court. He later added, "If it was a crime to refer for trial those accused of shooting at the president, then try me and save a lot of trouble…"

"I am Saddam Hussein. I was in charge, and just because things have changed, I am not going to say someone else was responsible."

Chief prosecutor, Jaafar al-Moussawi, presented the court with documents and letters in an attempt to link Hussein to the trials and subsequent executions. The documents consisted of over 100 death certificates of villagers hanged after being convicted by the Revolutionary Court, which has been called an "imaginary trial" by the prosecution. The documents also contained transfer orders for families that were relocated to the desert. One document, apparently originating with the Iraqi secret service, said that close to fifty of the accused had died during interrogation.

Defending his co-accused,, Hussein stated, "I referred them to the revolutionary court according to the law. Awad was implementing the law, he had a right to convict and acquit."

His defense team indicated that he was Iraq’s president at the time and all actions were taken in accordance with Iraqi law. Nehal Bhuta, a legal expert for Human Rights Watch told ABC news, "What we saw today was not Saddam admitting guilt, but admitting to the fact that he acted in accordance with his official duties and powers."

Both Hussein and his defense team remained subdued during the prosecution's testimony, a contrast with the often chaotic outbursts that eventually lead to Hussein and his lawyers refusing to return to court.

The trial thus far has seen the deaths of two defense lawyers, the resignation of a the judge who first presided in the trial, and numerous complaints by human rights groups that a fair trial is impossible.

The trial, which began last October, has been adjourned until March 12th.


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BBC global poll finds majority feel the US led Iraq invasion increased likelihood of terrorist attacks

March 6, 2006

Sixty percent of respondents in an international survey conducted for the BBC World Service felt that the likelihood of terrorist attacks around the world has been increased by the war in Iraq.

The international polling firm GlobeScan conducted the survey, which polled 41,856 residents of 35 countries between October 2005 and February 2006. Participants were asked, "Has the war in Iraq increased, decreased or had no effect on the likelihood of terrorist attacks around the world?"

Fifteen percent felt that the likelihood or terrorism had decreased; 12 percent felt there had been no effect; and 13 percent did not answer.

Out of the 35 countries polled, only Mexico and Nigeria thought the invasion lessened the likelihood of terrorist attacks. By contrast, 85 percent of Chinese respondents said they felt the invasion increased the likelihood of terrorist attacks.

Other questions asked in the poll found that 45 percent of respondents felt removing Saddam Hussein from power was a mistake, compared to 36 percent who felt the removal was the right decision. The poll also found that results were split on whether the foreign troops should remain in Iraq until the country is stable: 35 percent said they believed the troops should stay, 32 percent felt the troops should pull out within a few months, and 13 percent thought that a pull-out should occur within a few months unless the government of Iraq requested them to stay.

"It's official. Citizens worldwide think Western leaders have made a fundamental mistake in their war on terror by invading Iraq," Doug Miller, president of GlobeScan, said. "Short of the Iraqi government asking them to stay longer, people think the troops should leave," he said.

In the United States, the GlobeScan poll found that 55 percent thought chances of terror attacks were increased. In an unrelated poll conducted in the U.S. by CBS News, only 36 percent of U.S. respondents thought "the war is going well," and that 30 percent felt "Bush was doing a good job of handling the conflict." This U.S. poll also found that only 18 percent held a favorable view of Vice-President Dick Cheney.

In a televised interview with Elizabeth Vargas of ABC's World News Tonight which aired last Tuesday, President Bush said, "If I worried about polls, I wouldn't be doing my job," on the topic of his low U.S. approval ratings. "I think the American people — I know the American people want somebody to stand on principle, make decisions and stand by them and lead this world toward a more peaceful tomorrow, and I strongly believe we're doing that," he said.

"I've got ample [political] capital and I'm using it to spread freedom and to protect the American people, plus we've got a strong agenda to keep this economy growing." President Bush also said that Iraqis must choose between "chaos or unity."


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This is an extreme misrepresntation of the facts in the sources. According to the sources; "Saddam did not admit to signing the approval(for the executions)" and in all sources he only admits to calling for trials; not to calling for executions. Neutralizer 21:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, I have tried to fix the title; the article was NPOV but the title was wayyyyyyyyy off. Neutralizer 22:01, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I've gone through the BBC source and seen that he "admitted razing the farms of those convicted of trying to kill him in the town of Dujail in 1982." (emphasis mine) razing is a form of attack, even though it may have been carried out in a precise manner. I see no mention of the ordering of the trials which has been dug out of the Sun article.  That's not relevant because having someone put on trial is due process.  The current title implies he manipulated the legal system whereas he didn't.  What is more important is that when these people were found guilty their property was also attacked. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * addition MrM's objection is that the assertion in the title is not sourced from within the article, please add detail to make the article internally consistent before removing the tag. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:57, 1 March 2006 (UTC) I see that's actually been addressed in the same diff as the tag was removed. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:59, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm confused... what is the problem with the article? --Wolfrider 00:11, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It appears that MrM is upset about something; he actually blocked me as he assumed 65.1.149.41 and I are the same person; fortunately Brian discovered we are about 1,000 miles apart ; but I really have no idea what MrM wants done with this article now; it seems fine to me, although I am NOT the editor who removed MrM's tag..not even once. Neutralizer 00:19, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay. I'll leave the development tag on it for now, but I'd like to have it published as quickly as possible. If there are any problems with it and someone wants specific concerns to be addressed, please don't hesitate to post them here. I'll get on it as quickly as possible. --Wolfrider 00:24, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * If the title is the problem would a more preferable one be; Saddam admits to ordering attack on Dujail? --Wolfrider 00:28, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
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 * I have unprotecting the article under the assumption that the heat has cooled off. If one does start back up it will be reprotected Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 01:08, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

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Where is the talk page discussion? What are the actionable objections? Neutralizer 22:11, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry,MrM; I can not figure out what you are complaining about nor how you think the article should be improved. Please be more specific. Neutralizer 23:57, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * MrM. maybe thought this was a different article that he's been an edit war over ..because he put nothing on this talk page to justify a tag. Neutralizer 00:02, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

 * The Bush quote is inaccurately cited. The interview was prior to him leaving for Afghanistan.  The source the quote is lifted from does not make the association that is made in our article, namely that the quote is in response to being asked his opinion on the specific poll cited.
 * The title is inaccurate, 60% is not 4-1 It is 3-2. 80% is 4-1. It Also employs Inconsistent Capitalisation not in line with the style guide. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:32, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * 60-15 is 4-1. Neutralizer 20:21, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Not sure about that one Neut. It'd be nice to express that only 15% think it helped, but I don't think you can do that with one number. You could try something longer, but it gets really long really fast. You could also try to simplify the title, forcing people to read the article for the numbers. Nyarlathotep 20:34, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I've had to rename it toa crap (temporary) title, but I've delt with MrM's critisisms regarding the length and quote. It would be good to further elaborate on the CBS poll. Nyarlathotep 20:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Nyarlathotep is the mathematician; I accept his determination, when it comes to math. Neutralizer 21:07, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Well, as it is now, the title talks about both polls, so I doublt we'll put any numbers in, but its open for debate about what the title actually should be. Nyarlathotep 21:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Tag Removal

 * Again, MrM puts on a tag on a published article with no talk page discussion or actionable objections and certainly without any consensus. Neutralizer 17:20, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * There was nothing wrong with a world paper [Wikinews]] reporting on a BBC poll and a separate CBS poll on topics that spin out the Iraq war, all within the context of one story!!!!!! Where is MrM coming from with this? -68.232.153.54 20:03, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Basic questions
Why are neither BBC or CBS cited? Where is the instrument and the data for this poll? -  Amgine | talk en.WN 01:05, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Tag Removal

 * Again, MrM puts on a tag on a published article with no talk page discussion or actionable objections and certainly without any consensus; however I will remove the reference to the CBS poll and also the Bush quote as MrM seems to wish. Neutralizer 17:20, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Non-Consensus site disruption
by MrM. Will other admins please step up to the plate here? Neutralizer 22:21, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Am reading the article and will cross-check with sources. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:16, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * First (immediate comment) Having read the article and the last copy with MrM's tag it was only in reading the tagged version that I was aware that the information in the article was drawn from two sources.  This is bad.  Readers should be made aware of the sources to allow them to apply any preconceptions such as source A neutral, source B anti-whatever. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:20, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Read again... I don't know about this, really. It is confusing about what information is from which poll, the overall picture it presents is consistent - but that is perhaps where there's a problem.  It presents a view that is persecution of the US administration. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:31, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I made changes that I hoped addressed the concerns here. I will remove cleanup tag and publish later tonight (if no-one else does) to see if this story flies now. -Edbrown05 19:53, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

terrorist?
How can the world terrorist be NPOV, if the cat was not NPOV, once again, different people take what they think of it. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 21:16, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Resolution needed
The only problem I can see with the article now is that In a televised interview with Elizabeth Vargas of ABC's World News Tonight, which aired last Tuesday, President Bush said, "If I worried about polls, I wouldn't be doing my job.”  is not clear enough. What was he responding to? Was he responding to this poll or was he responding to his low approval ratings?

The title could also be considered POV. I can't suggest an alternative right now though.

The article needs to be fixed for publication soon, else it will no longer be news (it is already 4 days since the event). Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 00:00, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

 * The RSS feed already lists this story from 1 day ago. If the headline were changed now, it would create a nasty redirct page. Thank you for your comments above Cartman02. I'm moving this to publish now. -Edbrown05 06:06, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

All's well that ends well?
Looks pretty damn great to me. Credit to all. Neutralizer 21:32, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

minor minor detail
"In an unrelated poll conducted in the U.S. by CBS News, only 36 percent of U.S. respondents thought "the war is going well," and that 30 percent felt "Bush was doing a good job of handling the conflict.""
 * that 'that' is misplaced. that's all i have to say.. :) nice article. --Sammysam 18:00, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks! I just found substantial error myself...
 * Out of the 35 countries polled, only Mexico and Nigeria thought the invasion lessened the likelihood of terrorist attacks. By contrast, 85 percent of Chinese respondents said they felt the invasion increased the likelihood of terrorist attacks.
 * It's not actually possible to contrast number of countries with response of one population sample, so the entire second sentence is specious. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 18:18, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * So why hasn't anything been done....? --Sammysam 14:36, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Category and links
edit protected Please add this article to Category:CBS News and localize the links for CBS News, ABC (to ABC News (United States), BBC, and Saddam Hussein. Thank you. Green Giant (talk) 11:24, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Added a mess of cats, w-ized, changed infobox (we don't often do that in the archives, but this one seems pretty obvious to me). --Pi zero (talk) 16:31, 7 October 2015 (UTC)


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Thaksin denies rumours of resignation

March 1, 2006

With a boycott by all seat-holding parties other than Thaksin Shinawatra's Thai Rak Thai party, the embattled Prime Minister of Thailand has ruled out resigning as demanded by protestors.

Announcing his plan to lead Thai Rak Thai candidates to sign up for the April 2 snap election on Thurday morning, Thaksin stated that it was business as usual in his role as now-caretaker Prime Minister. His intention is to address a rally this Friday at Sanam Luang, the location of last Sunday's protest. According to Thailand's English-language paper, The Nation, he may announce proposals to have any newly formed parliament work on constitutional amendments.

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Wrong matters here. I am not Neutralizer. I will return though to abandoning this site as useless. Your refusal to investigate the matter of your complaint and yourself settle it in the article by such a simple edit as I have and afterward making these bans for my only 3 edits and not 4 as required for revert violation hav discouraged me from returning. 65.1.149.41 23:05, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I have confirmed that this IP address matches the same region as Neutralizer's from the same ISP. As such, with close proximity of the case, I have strong faith that this is indeed Neutralizer.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 23:07, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
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Amateur sex video stirs controversy on Internet

March 2, 2006

An amateur sex video allegedly filmed in Singapore using a mobile phone has become an Internet phenomenon. Various blogs are reporting that tens of thousands of Internet users are searching for the video, creating what bloggers call a "blogstorm". According to unconfirmed reports, the female in the video is "Tammy", a 17 year old student at Nanyang Polytechnic (NYP) in Singapore, and the male is her 21 year old boyfriend. The incident has stirred controversy, with many bloggers critical of the interest the video has attracted.

Terms such as "tammy nyp" and "tammy video" topped the list of search terms on Technorati, a blog search engine, for days. Bloggers appear to be creating entries containing the terms to increase hits to their blogs. Domain names such as nyptammy.com have been registered, in an attempt to make money through advertising. Further, The Malaysian Star (A major newspaper in a neighbouring country, Malaysia) reported last week that a DVD version of the clips is available for sale on the streets of Penang.

It has been reported in the Singapore press that the female student in the video is currently undergoing counselling. The student has also lodged a complaint with the police, who are currently investigating the matter.

While it is unlikely that the culprits who uploaded the video will ever be caught, a warning must be sounded to people seeking to exploit this unfortunate incident. Under Singapore Law, bloggers who intentionally spread the "Tammy videos" are liable in tort to "Tammy".


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Comedian Linda Smith dies at 48

March 2, 2006

It was reported by the BBC News service that Linda Smith, regular panelist on BBC Radio 4's The News Quiz, stand up comedian, satirist and writer, passed away from chronic ovarian cancer on Monday, February 27, 2006. Ms. Smith died age 48 and is survived by her partner, Warren Lakin.

Ms. Smith gained fame from her many roles on BBC television and radio. During her career she built strong friendships with a number of colleagues. Amongst these is her colleague and friend Jeremy Hardy who responded to the news of her passing saying, "She was our greatest living Englishwoman. She reminds me of Alan Bennett in that wonderful Yorkshire terminology, the exactitude." Mr. Hardy has written a full tribute to Ms. Smith for the BBC website.

A tribute edition of The News Quiz, presented by her fellow panelist Andy Hamilton, will be aired on Friday, March 3, 2006 on BBC Radio 4 at 6:30 p.m. (GMT), repeated the following Saturday at 12:30 - after this the show will be available for one week using BBC's Listen Again service.

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Photoessay: Fat Tuesday Easy in DC

Proving that Mardi Gras isn't confined to, thousands of people came to chilly , Virginia for the annual Parade Tuesday night. This high energy, low key celebration of Fat Tuesday brought out families and friends to this suburb of  Although there was a heavy police presence throughout the evening, revelers were after the beads and other throws from the low tech floats. According to Arlington Police there were very few problems throughout the entire evening.

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Australia's Prime Minister Howard marks 10 years in power

March 2, 2006

Today will mark Australian Prime Minister John Howard's 10th anniversary holding what is arguably the most powerful office in Australia. John Howard is Australia's second longest serving Prime Minister, behind Sir Robert Menzies.

Howard celebrated his decade in office last night at a gala dinner at Australian Parliament House in Canberra. Around 700 conservative supporters and business figures were present at the dinner.

Mr Howard gave a speech to his delegates, saying he was grateful to Australians for their support and promised to try not to abuse their trust.

"I am deeply conscious of the trust that you have put in us and I am deeply grateful... for the privilege that has come our way," Mr Howard said.

"We have tried not to abuse it and we will try in the future never to abuse it, because public life is the ultimate in terms of serving a nation and serving a community,” he said.

Peter Costello, Mr Howard's most likely successor gave a brief speech to the delegation saying "It's not just a wonderful 10th anniversary for the coalition government."

"There is another 10th anniversary that we ought to acknowledge tonight - it's the 10th anniversary of Labor in opposition," he said.

Despite many political commentators believing that Howard (now aged 66) will soon retire and hand the reins over to Peter Costello, Mr Howard told ABC radio, "I will remain in the position as long as my party wants me to."

Mr Howard also showed his support for his likely successor saying "If I were to go under a bus, the person who would and should become the leader of the Liberal party is Peter Costello. I am very careful crossing roads."

Little to celebrate - Opposition
The opposition has used the occasion to attack the government on its performance over the last ten years. Opposition leader, Kim Beazley told a press conference on Wednesday that "On this 10th anniversary of the Howard government we find record foreign debt - more than twice what it was that John Howard inherited."

Wayne Swan, Shadow Minister for Family and Community Services, said the government's celebrations come at a time when Australians are paying too much tax. "Sadly, for the Australian people 10 years of the highest taxing Government in our history has given all of those taxpayers a much bigger hangover," he said

A turbulent political career
John Howard has had a turbulent political career, since first becoming elected as a Member of Parliament in 1974. He was treasurer under the Malcolm Fraser government from 1977 until 1983, when it was defeated by Bob Hawke.

Following the resignation of Fraser, Howard contested the Liberal Party leadership but was defeated by Andrew Peacock. Despite being defeated as leader, Howard stayed on as deputy leader.

After being defeated by the incumbent Labor Party government of Bob Hawke, Peacock became nervous and attempted to protect his leadership by removing Howard from the deputy position. Howard restood for the position and won, putting Peacock in an uncomfortable position and prompting his resignation. This allowed Howard to succeed to the leadership unopposed.

Howard held the Liberal Party leadership from 1985 until 1989, when he was defeated in a leadership challenge by Peacock. Howard's support was weakend following a speech in which he claimed that the rate of Asian immigration into Australia was too high. Following his defeat Howard was relegated to the backbench for a short time before taking a position on the front bench again. When Peacock lost the 1990 election, the Liberal Party began to look for a young leader - electing John Hewson. It was at this time that Howard conceded it unlikely he would ever be leader again. Howard himself compared the possibility of a political comeback to "Lazarus with a triple bypass".

After Hewson lost the 1993 election to Hawke's successor Paul Keating, the Liberal Party again appointed a new leader, this time current foreign minister, Alexander Downer. When Downer resigned in 1995, with deputy leader Peter Costello unwilling to step up, Howard was elected to power for the second time.

Howard's coalition government swept to power in 1996, holding 96 of the 148 seats in the House of Representatives ending 13 years of Australian Labor Party governance. Howard led his government to comfortable victories in 1998, 2001 and 2004.


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Talk:Comedian Linda Smith dies at 48

Clean Up
Just needs some work. Sources, little POV edit and categories. It should be checked for copyvio on the external links. Jason Safoutin 03:50, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:Amateur sex video stirs controversy on Internet

The video
I've seen the video, and I don't think it warranted all the noise. I suppose people heard the uproar and had to see for themselves. Since it involves a 17-year-old, it is illegal in the U.S. to post a screenshot, even one that involves no nudity and contains no identifying characteristics. Both the girl and her lover are of consenting age in Singapore, however. -- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 04:05, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

 * What is interesting is, for all the fuss, it's extremely difficult to find. I spent some hours trying to find a free copy to download (as part of my research for this article, of course ;-), and was unsuccessfull. So there are tens of thousands of people searching for something that they probably won't find, which causes more people to start searching. - Borofkin 05:10, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Really? I was able to find it within 20 minutes. And later I stumbled across some easier paths to it. One guy embedded a link to it within his herbal supplement something-or-other site, libidus7.com. Link is in the first paragraph. It is a RAR file containing 4 3GP files. Another location is here, a direct link using the Coral Distribution Network (so it won't leech bandwidth). Remember, may be classified as child porn in the US. But, yeah, there's a lot of spam sites now that are clouding the searches. -- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 12:53, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Comments in the article
I deleted two short paragraphs from the article, they were about some blogger pointing out obvious ethical aspects of the video, and expressing anger at ...ah someone. Bill3 17:13, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean by "non notable". Her point of view is shared by many thousands of people, and its inclusion makes the article more balanced. I agree that the ethical aspects are "obvious", however it is a valid point of view and should be in the article. It isn't for Wikinews to be pointing out these things, we need only report on what others are doing. Also, the person she is expressing anger at is the person who posted the video to the Internet. - Borofkin 22:54, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Roxen has her blog for publishing her rants. Wikinews has a definition for What is news.  Roxen's rants fail all points of that definition and sharply reduce the quality of Wikinews. Bill3 05:11, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The "What is news" section applies to the entire article, not individual statements within the article. The only part that is relevant to Roxen's comments is this: "Opinions should be sourced from qualified sources, and the fact that those people express those opinions becomes the fact that is reported. A qualified source is an organisation or someone who is taken seriously by the general public when commenting on a particular area of expertise.". The point-of-view that I am trying to include in the article is the general disgust felt by many people at the distribution of the video. Roxen is an expert on this, because she is one of the people who is experiencing this disgust, and that is the fact that we are reporting. I encourage you to consider re-inserting Roxen's quotes. - Borofkin 05:19, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Are you able to suggest another way that we can represent the "controversy"? It certainly exists, there has been a great deal of discussion in the blogshere about this issue. It may not seem newsworthy, but think of the blogsphere as a small town - the people who live in the town consider local issues to be newsworthy. - Borofkin 05:25, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Why are these two bloggers being cited? Do they have some special connection with the situation? If so, shouldn't that be noted in the article? If not, then why not just take 40 bloggers blogging about this, and say: "Here, here's what a bunch of bloggers think about this." ..? LionKimbro 12:07, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Those two bloggers are (or at least were) sources for the information in the article. You are right that any one of thousands of blogs could have been used as the source for this article, and there is no particular reason to use these two. This is true with most articles on Wikinews - there are many sources, we choose a couple and write an article. Now that the "Pink Lady" source has been removed, statements in the article such as "Various blogs are reporting that tens of thousands of Internet users are searching for the video, creating what bloggers call a "blogstorm" are unsourced. - Borofkin 00:24, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I really don't see what the problem is with sourcing blogs. It's no different to doing "man in the street" interviews, or quoting people who are participating in protest marches, etc. As long as it is clear where the quote came from, we can source anything we like. - Borofkin 00:24, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Last paragraph
The last paragraph looks POV now, but it also looks like a quote, and it is informative. Is it a quote? Who said it?


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Feature ?
Yes. Suggested, nominated. International 22:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks International. The shoot was a TON of fun to do. Better than a protest.-Drew 23:02, 2 March 2006 (UTC)3

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Bush's Katrina statement contradicted by emerging evidence

March 2, 2006

Recently emerging evidence seems to contradict a statement by United States President George W. Bush during Hurricane Katrina. He stated in an interview with ABC on September 1st that, "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees".

One of the first items to emerge, a video obtained by the Associated Press, shows footage of Bush during a video-conference received at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, on August 29, 2005, 19 hours before landfall of Hurricane Katrina. During the briefing, Director of the National Hurricane Center Max Mayfield warned, "I don't think anyone can tell you with any confidence right now whether levees will be topped or not, but there is obviously a very, very great concern".

In addition, Michael D. Brown, then director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), reported that he had spoken with President Bush twice in the morning and that the president was asking about reports that the levees had been breached.

Brown would state later on ''CNN that, "There's no question in my mind he probably had those reports (about breaches in the levees), because we were feeding in the Homeland Security Operations Center, into the White House sit room, all of the information that we were getting. So he had to have had that information. Plus, I think the president knew from our earlier conversations that that was one of my concerns, that the levees could actually breach".

In July 2004, the Federal Emergency Management Agency completed an exercise called "Hurricane Pam", which, dealt with the scenario of a direct hit on New Orleans by a hurricane with 120 mph winds (a Category 3). It resulted in "10 to 20 feet of water within the City of New Orleans," according to January 24 congressional testimony by the president of the company that designed the Hurricane Pam exercise.

A report FEMA sent to the White House Situation Room on August 29th, they cited death and destruction anticipated by the "Hurricane Pam" exercise and warned that Katrina was likely to be worse. "Exercise projection is exceeded by Hurricane Katrina real-life impacts," they stated. Furthermore, "The potential for severe storm surge to overwhelm Lake Pontchartrain levees is the greatest concern for New Orleans. Any storm rated Category 4 on the Saffir-Simpson (hurricane) scale will likely lead to severe flooding and/or levee breaching. This could leave the New Orleans metro area submerged for weeks or months".

When the report was released, Hurricane Katrina was thought to be a Category 4 as of landfall (though after analysis, it's power at landfall would be downgraded to a Category 3).

White House officials previously clarified Bush's earlier comment, saying that the president was referring to the hours after Katrina swept through and news reports as of August 30th suggested the city had "dodged a bullet", which led to surprise when reports reached them of the levee breaches. Contrasting this was the August 30th broadcast of NBC's Today, NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams reported at 7:05 a.m. ET, "There has been a huge development overnight ... the historic French Quarter, dry last night and it is now filling with water. This is water from nearby Lake Pontchartrain; the levees failed overnight."


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Interview with Usenet search sites targeted by the MPAA

March 2, 2006

Last week, the (MPAA) announced it had launched seven lawsuits against operators of websites it claims had been "facilitating the distribution of copyright works".

In its announcement, the MPAA said it had commenced legal action against the following tracking sites:, bthub.com, and torrentbox.com, which are all owned by the same person; torrentspy.com; niteshadow.com as well as ed2k site ed2k-it.com and  search engines nzb-zone.com, binnews.com, and dvdrs.net.

Despite the announcement on its website and in the media, the MPAA has failed to notify the administrators of the sites involved directly. Joe from Binnews told Wikinews he only found out about the MPAA's actions after reading it on several news sites. He said, "At first, I double read the article making sure we were not being punk'd. But then I was shocked that we had to read about it publicly first.  As of today (February 25), we have yet to get anything (from the MPAA)".

"Descds", an administrator of dvdrs.net told Wikinews that the first he knew of the action being taken against the site was when he was approached by the press and users of his site. He said, "We haven't been informed by the MPAA and quite frankly are outraged by the method they have adopted to file these lawsuits. In actual fact we would still be none the wiser had our members and members of the press not have contacted us."

"When we found out about the filed lawsuit we was first worried (after all we are only a small site with limited funds), then shocked and finally outraged. Had the MPAA contacted us anytime in the sites history regards their concerns we would have happily worked with them to gain a resolve," he said.

Descds also said that despite attempts to contact the MPAA he has received no response.

When asked by Wikinews how they felt about discovering the MPAA's lawsuits both administrators said they would have appreciated being notified before the announcement was made public.

Binnews told Wikinews, "We do feel they should have notified first. We do not even have a confirmation this is for real."

Dvdrs said, "We have stated many times had the MPAA personally contacted us we would have happily listened to their issues and acted accordingly. We are doing nothing wrong legally on our site and to be made look like an established piracy ring is an outrage. We have worked extremely hard on site to keep within international laws and they have publicly destroyed everything we have worked towards in the last two years. We are receiving negative PR and this is totally unacceptable."

Wikinews has discovered that both Binnews and dvdrs.net have procedures in place for dealing with alleged copyright infringement under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Despite this, both sites deny ever being contacted by any organisation with a "takedown" notice.

When asked if Binnews ever received a takedown notice, Binnews replied, "Nope, we have never received a notice from anyone. My cell phone is tied to the site, we have proper DMCA guidelines on the site and no one has contacted us."

When asked the same question, Dvdrs said, "No never. We would actively respond to any DMCA request quickly and efficiently. We fully support the law and would never try to evade anything within its scope. Had a DMCA been issued by any member, our site would have immediately deleted the offensive file."

When asked how they would deal with a DMCA takedown notice, Binnews said, "We would act quite quickly. An email sent to the alert system is tied into all of "staff" members, my cell phone and my email."

According to Dvdrs, they would be equally as compliant. "We would immediately delete the offending file on our server and conduct a thorough research into any files that may also be connected to the one mentioned. We would also respond to the request personally with a follow up email expressing our actions," they said.

Wikinews asked the administrators if they thought their sites were any different to conventional search engines like Google and Yahoo. Binnews replied, "No, you can go to any search engine and find just about anything."

Dvdrs also shares Binnews' position telling Wikinews, "No. We index what is already readily available on commercial, tax paying, US based registered companies hard drives. All we are doing is pointing to files not on our network, much the same way google or any search bot operates. We do not host these files and without the premium paid service of third parties our marked up text based XML files are useless. We have never hosted illegal files and only offer information."

Dvdrs has expressed that if the MPAA deems them illegal they should also target those who are actually hosting the files. Descds said, "We feel that should the MPAA deem us illegal then they must also target premium paid Usenet Providers who act as the transit for these files. Ironically both Easynews and Usenetserver offer both indexing and carrier for these files and yet have received no such lawsuits filed."

"We also find it ironic still that Newzbin, creators, instigators and promoters of the NZB format and un-arguably the biggest Usenet Indexing site in the world have received no lawsuits filed. We feel that we are being rail roaded and are not at all happy about it."

On the other hand, Binnews was surprised that the MPAA did not target ISPs and Usenet providers in the first instance. "Cut the head off and there is nothing for us to index and report on. If the ISPs acted in a proper manner and did what they are more than capable of, we would not be assisting people in combating piracy on their networks," they said.

Despite being outraged with the MPAA and its actions, Descds said that despite being outside of US juristiction he is happy to assist the MPAA in anyway necessary. "We would like it known for the record that we are actively trying to reach a resolve regards this action by the MPAA. We have contacted them and said openly many times we would welcome their input and act accordingly. Should they feel that NZBS are illegal we will remove those sections immediately and await a legal judgement on their legality. DVDRS is not a pirate network and to call us such has insulted our member base."

"I would also like it noted that although we host in the US i am actually a UK citizen who currently does not have to adhere to their communications and judgements. However, such is our resolve that I would happily comply should communication between us take place. We can offer little more to help this but hope that the MPAA retract their statement that we are an organised pirate network and restore our good name. Should the MPAA decide to not communicate with us and continue their legal actions we will instruct our attorneys and contact legal bodies like the EFF for help on this matter," he added.

Binnews also had this to say of the MPAA's lawsuit: "Binnews does not host any files, the claim that we read "BinNews.com offers files for over 3,000 movies" is 100% completely false. We do not host any files, never have and never will. We provide a legitimate service to copyright holders. No where on our site does it say, "join us, we can give you free movies."  We do not even have pre-made nzb files."

History of binnews and dvdrs.net
Binnews started "as a way to monitor what is on usenet," according to Joe.

"Our intent is not and never has been to facilitate piracy. Its quite the opposite. We have several guides that explain how binnews can assist a company in getting rid of piracy," he said.

Dvdrs.net started out as a community site in March, 2004, where people could discuss movies they loved, and hated, offer help to people with home cinema issues, discuss games and basically befriend members. Descds said, "We have evolved several times and have always kept a keen eye on the laws of both local and international authorities."

Dvdrs.net adopted NZBs at users' request several months after the site was launched. Descds told Wikinews that the site had never been contacted by any legal representative to ask for the removal of NZB files.

"There has never been a law passed anywhere, as far as we are aware, that states NZB files are illegal to host. Had there been, we would have dropped them and continue with other aspects of our site. DVDRS is not all about indexing Usenet and has a very healthy community discussion group," he said.


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User:Cartman02au/Binnews Dvdrs transcript

Please see Interview with Usenet search sites targeted by the MPAA for the published version and original reporting information.

The Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) has been accused of publically announcing that it has commenced action against a number of internet sites for alleged piracy prior to the defendents receiving formal notification.

Wikinews interviews the administrators of two of the Usenet related sites - Joe from Binnews and "descds" from dvdrs.net.

WN: How long have you been running your sites? BN: Way too long. The days of working 18 hours have caught up to me. What was the question? DR: We have been running for nearly 2 years this March.

WN: Why did you start your sites? BN: We started it as a way to monitor what is on usenet. Our intent is not and never has been to facilitate piracy. Its quite the opposite. We have several guides that explain how binnews can assist a company in getting rid of piracy. DR: We started the site as a community for people to discuss movies they loved, and hated, offer help to people with home cinema issues, discuss games and basically befriend members. We have evolved several times and have always kept a keen eye on the laws of both local and international authorities.

NZBS were adopted at our users request months after the site was launched and we have never been contacted by any legal bodied association anywhere to ask for their removal. There has never been a law passed anywhere, as far as we are aware, that states NZB files are illegal to host. Had there been, we would have dropped them and continue with other aspects of our site. DVDRS is not all about indexing Usenet and has a very healthy community discussion group.

WN: Another site upon which the MPAA is taking action against has said that they are yet to receive formal notification of the lawsuit, how did you find out? How did you react?
 BN: We found out the same way as they did, but seeing it on several news sites. At first, I double read the article making sure we were not being punk'd. But then I was shocked that we had to read about it publicly first. As of today, we have yet to get anything.
 DR: We haven't been informed by the MPAA and quite frankly are outraged by the method they have adopted to file these lawsuits. In actual fact we would still be non the wiser had our members and members of the press not have contacted us.

When we found out about the filed lawsuit we was first worried (after all we are only a small site with limited funds), then shocked and finally outraged. Had the MPAA contacted us anytime in the sites history regards their concerns we would have happily worked with them to gain a resolve. We have yet to have receipt of any paperwork or any contact with the MPAA regards this matter. 24 hours after the news broke we wrote an email to their hotline asking them to contact us so we could discuss their concerns. We still have no response from that email.

WN: Do you feel it is appropriate for the MPAA to publically announce that they have commenced action against your site and others before you even receive notification?
 BN: We do feel they should have notified first. We do not even have a confirmation this is for real.
 DR: No not at all. Again as we have stated many times, had the MPAA personally contacted us we would have happily listened to their issues and acted accordingly. We are doing nothing wrong legally on our site and to be made look like an established piracy ring is an outrage. We have worked extremely hard on site to keep within international laws and they have publicly destroyed everything we have worked towards in the last 2 years. We are receiving negative PR and this is totally unacceptable.

WN: Have you ever received a takedown notice from any company in accordance with the DMCA?
 BN: Nope, we have never received a notice from anyone. My cell phone is tied to the site, we have proper DMCA guidelines on the site and no one has contacted us.
 DR: No never. We would actively respond to any DMCA request quickly and efficiently. We fully support the law and would never try to evade anything within its scope. Had a DMCA been issued by any member, our site would have immediately deleted the offensive file.

WN: If you were to receive a take down notice how would you deal with it?
 BN: We would act quite quickly. An email sent to the alert system is tied into all of "staff" members, my cell phone and my email.
 DR: We would immediately delete the offending file on our server and conduct a thorough research into any files that may also be connected to the one mentioned. We would also respond to the request personally with a follow up email expressing our actions.

WN: Do you think the service you provide is any different to that of major search engines such as Google and Yahoo?
 BN: No, you can goto any search engine and find just about anything.
  DR: No. We index what is already readily available on commercial, tax paying, US based registered companies hard drives. All we are doing is pointing to files not on our network, much the same way google or any search bot operates. We do not host these files and without the premium paid service of third parties our marked up text based XML files are useless. We have never hosted illegal files and only offer information.

We feel that should the MPAA deem us illegal then they must also target premium paid Usenet Providers who act as the transit for these files. Ironically both Easynews and Usenetserver offer both indexing and carrier for these files and yet have received no such lawsuits filed.

<We also find it ironic still that Newzbin, creators, instigators and promoters of the NZB format and un-arguably the biggest Usenet Indexing site in the world have received no lawsuits filed. We feel that we are being rail roaded and are not at all happy about it.

We would like it known for the record that we are actively trying to reach a resolve regards this action by the MPAA. We have contacted them and said openly many times we would welcome their input and act accordingly. Should they feel that NZBS are illegal we will remove those sections immediately and await a legal judgement on their legality. DVDRS is not a pirate network and to call us such has insulted our member base.

I would also like it noted that although we host in the US i am actually a UK citizen who currently does not have to adhere to their communications and judgements. However, such is our resolve that I would happily comply should communication between us take place. We can offer little more to help this but hope that the MPAA retract their statement that we are an organised pirate network and restore our good name. Should the MPAA decide to not communicate with us and continue their legal actions we will instruct our attorneys and contact legal bodies like the EFF for help on this matter.

We hope to have contact with the MPAA soon to resolve this issue.
 WN: If the MPAA were to be successful, do you think that it could open up action against those who actually host usenet servers? Do you believe that ISPs could be sued for hosting content they have minimal control over?
 BN: Im surprised they didnt target them first. Cut the head off and there is nothing for us to index and report on. If the ISPs acted in a proper manner and did what they are more than capable of, we would not be assisting people in combating piracy on their networks.

Binnews also had this to say of the MPAA's lawsuit - "binnews does not host any files, the claim that we read "BinNews.com offers files for over 3,000 movies" is 100% completely false. We do not host any files, never have and never will.  We provide a legitimate service to copyright holders.  No where on our site does it say, "join us, we can give you free movies".  We do not even have pre-made nzb files."


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Talk:Interview with Usenet search sites targeted by the MPAA

Original reporting notes
The interview with both descds and Joe were conducted via e-mail.

descds
1. How long have you been running dvdrs.net?

We have been running for nearly 2 years this march.

2. Why did you start it?

We started the site as a community for people to discuss movies they loved, and hated, offer help to people with home cinema issues, discuss games and basically befriend members. We have evolved several times and have always kept a keen eye on the laws of both local and international authorities.

NZBS were adopted at our users request months after the site was launched and we have never been contacted by any legal bodied association anywhere to ask for their removal. There has never been a law passed anywhere, as far as we are aware, that states NZB files are illegal to host. Had there been, we would have dropped them and continue with other aspects of our site. DVDRS is not all about indexing Usenet and has a very healthy community discussion group/

3. Another site upon which the MPAA is taking action against has said that they are yet to receive formal notification of the lawsuit, how did you find out? How did you react?

We haven't been informed by the MPAA and quite frankly are outraged by the method they have adopted to file these lawsuits. In actual fact we would still be non the wiser had our members and members of the press not have contacted us.

When we found out about the filed lawsuit we was first worried (after all we are only a small site with limited funds), then shocked and finally outraged. Had the MPAA contacted us anytime in the sites history regards their concerns we would have happily worked with them to gain a resolve. We have yet to have receipt of any paperwork or any contact with the MPAA regards this matter. 24 hours after the news broke we wrote an email to their hotline asking them to contact us so we could discuss their concerns. We still have no response from that email.

4. Do you feel it is appropriate for the MPAA to publically announce that they have commenced action against your site and others before you even receive notification?

No not at all. Again as we have stated many times, had the MPAA personally contacted us we would have happily listened to their issues and acted accordingly. We are doing nothing wrong legally on our site and to be made look like an established piracy ring is an outrage. We have worked extremely hard on site to keep within international laws and they have publicly destroyed everything we have worked towards in the last 2 years. We are receiving negative PR and this is totally unacceptable.

5. Have you ever received a takedown notice from any company in accordance with the DMCA?

No never. We would actively respond to any DMCA request quickly and efficiently. We fully support the law and would never try to evade anything within its scope. Had a DMCA been issued by any member, our site would have immediately deleted the offensive file.

6. If you have received a take down notice, how do you go about dealing with them?

We would immediately delete the offending file on our server and conduct a thorough research into any files that may also be connected to the one mentioned. We would also respond to the request personally with a follow up email expressing our actions.

7. Do you think the service you provide is any different to that of major search engines such as Google and Yahoo?

No. We index what is already readily available on commercial, tax paying, US based registered companies hard drives. All we are doing is pointing to files not on our network, much the same way google or any search bot operates. We do not host these files and without the premium paid service of third parties our marked up text based XML files are useless. We have never hosted illegal files and only offer information.

We feel that should the MPAA deem us illegal then they must also target premium paid Usenet Providers who act as the transit for these files. Ironically both Easynews and Usenetserver offer both indexing and carrier for these files and yet have received no such lawsuits filed.

We also find it ironic still that Newzbin, creators, instigators and promoters of the NZB format and un-arguably the biggest Usenet Indexing site in the world have received no lawsuits filed. We feel that we are being rail roaded and are not at all happy about it.

We would like it known for the record that we are actively trying to reach a resolve regards this action by the MPAA. We have contacted them and said openly many times we would welcome their input and act accordingly. Should they feel that NZBS are illegal we will remove those sections immediately and await a legal judgement on their legality. DVDRS is not a pirate network and to call us such has insulted our member base.

I would also like it noted that although we host in the US i am actually a UK citizen who currently does not have to adhere to their communications and judgements. However, such is our resolve that I would happily comply should communication between us take place. We can offer little more to help this but hope that the MPAA retract their statement that we are an organised pirate network and restore our good name. Should the MPAA decide to not communicate with us and continue their legal actions we will instruct our attorneys and contact legal bodies like the EFF for help on this matter.

We hope to have contact with the MPAA soon to resolve this issue.

--- Descds (Admin - www.dvdrs.net) (Admin - www.talkdvd.net)

Joe
Here ya go

Hi Joe, Thanks for your paricipation. What I will do before I publish the article is send you a copy so you can ensure that eveything is correct. 1. How long have you been running binnews? way too long.. the days of working 18 hours have caught up to me. what was the question?

2. Why did you start it? We started it as a way to monitor what is on usenet. Our intent is not and never has been to facilitate piracy. Its quite the opposite. We have several guides that explain how binnews can assist a company in getting rid of piracy.

3. Another site upon which the MPAA is taking action against has said that they are yet to receive formal notification of the lawsuit, how did you find out? How did you react? We found out the same way as they did, but seeing it on several news sites. At first, I double read the article making sure we were not being punk'd. But then I was shocked that we had to read about it publicly first. As of today, we have yet to get anything.

4. Do you feel it is appropriate for the MPAA to publically announce that they have commenced action against your site and others before you even receive notification? But we do feel they should have notified first. We do not even have a confirmation this is for real.

5. Have you ever received a takedown notice from any company in accordance with the DMCA? Nope, we have never received a notice from anyone. My cell phone is tied to the site, we have proper DMCA guidelines on the site and no one has contacted us.

6. If you have received a take down notice, how do you go about dealing with them? We would act quite quickly. An email sent to the alert system is tied into all of "staff" members, my cell phone and my email.

7. Do you think the service you provide is any different to that of major search engines such as Google and Yahoo? No, you can goto any search engine and find just about anything.

8. Are you surprised that the MPAA has decided to target usenet search providers? In this day and age, anyone can sue anyone for anything.

9. If the MPAA were to be successful, do you think that it could open up action against those who actually host usenet servers? Do you believe that ISPs could be sued for hosting content they have minimal control over? Im surprised they didnt target them first. Cut the head off and there is nothing for us to index and report on. If the ISPs acted in a proper manner and did what they are more than capable of, we would not be assisting people in combating piracy on their networks.

Is there anything else you would like to see published? yes, binnews does not host any files, the claim that we read "BinNews.com offers files for over 3,000 movies" is 100% completely false. We do not host any files, never have and never will. We provide a legitimate service to copyright holders. No where on our site does it say, "join us, we can give you free movies". We do not even have pre-made nzb files.

If there is anything that you can't or do not want to answer please leave it. Cheers, Nathan.

Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 09:32, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

A lead?
Should this be in one of our three lead slots? Nyarlathotep 19:44, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure, when its written in the form of an interview. Jason Safoutin 19:51, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Quite possibly :)

More to come
This is becoming quite an interesting issue, after this interview dvdrs has announced it's closure and I secured an interview with Isohunt :) - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 20:13, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

62.56.44.20 20:00, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * AS of 20:01 GMT dvdrs.net has gone dark...


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Mayor Ken Livingstone's suspension frozen pending appeal

March 2, 2006

The four week suspension of London Mayor Ken Livingstone has been frozen by a High Court judge pending his appeal.

Ken Livingstone spoke out against the ruling, saying it had "been blown out of all proportion". He also attacked the newspaper group that owns the Evening Standard, around whose reporter the row has erupted.

"It is Associated Newspapers that has a long history of anti-Semitism and support for fascism. It welcomes the blackshirts in the 1930s and it has admitted that as recently as the retirement party of the last editor of the Daily Mail, two of its staff dressed in Nazi uniforms and were not asked to leave. Associated Newspapers has never apologised for this or for its record of support of fascism."

Mr Livingstone also responded to claims made in The Independent newspaper that there had been 11 anti-Semitic attacks following his comments, saying the CMA "in fact claimed there had been 11 incidents following my speech, in which the worst was an offensive letter to a member of Parliament".


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