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Thanks
Thanks for supporting me on WN:A Bawolff 16:53, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * NP, you deserve it :) --Deprifry | +T+ 18:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Excellent photo use!
Just wanted to take a moment to say you have an excellent photo use and caption on Cypriot plane with 121 on board crashes in Greece. First one I've come across tonight which properly credited the photographer. I checked over the photo, and it appears to have been taken for Helios, so I'm tagging it as a publicity photo. Again, thanks! - Amgine / talk 01:16, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the compliment :). --Deprifry | +T+ 14:26, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Alito story
Do you want to merge: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Bush_nominates_Alito_to_Supreme_Court

If so, feel free to use what you want if you have time. Or I can add the info. Your decision.

--Psusen 11:57, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Wasn't around, sorry. Thanks for all the work on the article. --Deprifry | +T+ 16:53, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Adminship?
Hello,Your response to the Neutralizer (plus all the vandal and spam fighting you do) makes it appear you would make a very good admin. Will you accept a nomination for adminship? --Cspurrier 22:41, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, I accept. Thanks for your trust in me. --Deprifry | +T+ 22:51, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your support with my accreditation request! -- user:zanimum
 * No problem. --Deprifry | +T+ 12:34, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Series of explosions hit hotels in Amman
Great job on this! really appreciate what you're doing... - Amgine 21:00, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you :) --Deprifry | +T+ 21:02, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for the warm welcome! I have mainly been a 'Pedia contributor, but that might now change :) Cya around! Brisvegas 08:07, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Now an Admin
Congratulations you are now an admin. If you have any questions about the admin tools please let me know --Cspurrier 17:03, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Wow, a lot of new buttons :). --Deprifry|+T+ 17:05, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Congrats on your new super-awseome ADMIN powers (:. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:17, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) --Deprifry|+T+ 00:20, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

photo on French unions march in support of public services
heres an idea for positioning. how does it look — French unions march in support of public services/photo test Bawolff ☺☻ 22:36, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

un-Delay Delay
wikipedia news sticks for a long time; it's not like a newspaper that becomes fishwrap in a few hours. and the pov of the writer is not relevant to the story. saying "yesterday" is no better than saying "last week". it merely reveals the delay between the event and the writer's encounter with the information, plus his/her decision to post it. so it makes sense to speak of "today" rather than "yesterday" in articles here, always, unless there is intervening information that applies to "today" that makes "yesterday" a relevant distinction. users in the future who read that article will be bemused at the quaintness of the double time-shift they suffer otherwise. which is why i fixed it.

reverting it wasn't necessary in any case. you're dunning boldness.

oh, and could you unlock my IP-named user page? I know all that stuff.

216.237.179.238 22:31, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Regarding the first point. Wikinews articles carry the date of the day they were published. This was November 22 in the case, the day before that the article didn't even exist. Secondly, I'm not sure what you're talking about "unlocking" you user page. I have not protected the page, you can freely edit there. --Deprifry|+T+ 09:37, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks (from 69.140.10.16)
Heh, forgot I didn't have a registered account over here. Thanks for the welcome, though. :) --Syrthiss 12:58, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

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Jens Stoltenberg reveals the next Norwegian cabinet

October 17, 2005

At 10:20 AM, newly appointed Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg revealed his cabinet, the red-green coalition.

Prime Minister: Jens Stoltenberg (Labour).
 * Minister of Foreign Affairs: Jonas Gahr Støre (Labour).
 * Minister of Finance: Kristin Halvorsen (Socialist Left Party).
 * Minister of Local Affairs and regional Development: Åslaug Haga (Centre Party).
 * Minister of Culture and Church Affairs: Trond Giske (Labour).
 * Minister of Consumer and Equality Affairs: Karita Bekkemellem (Labour)
 * Minister of Health and Care Services: Sylvia Brustad (Labour)
 * Minister of Justice: Knut Storberget (Labour)
 * Minister of Fisheries and Coastal Affairs: Helga Pedersen (Labour)
 * Minister of Labour and Social Affairs: Bjarne Håkon Hanssen (Labour)
 * Minister of Defence: Anne-Grete Strøm-Erichsen (Labour)
 * Minister of Trade and Industry: Odd Eriksen (Labour)
 * Minister of Knowledge and Childhood Affairs: Øystein Djupedal (Socialist Left Party)
 * Minister of Development: Erik Solheim (Socialist Left Party)
 * Minister of the Environment: Helen Bjørnøy (Socialist Left Party)
 * Minister of Transport and Communications: Liv Signe Navarsete (Centre Party)
 * Minister of food and Agriculture: Terje Riis Johansen (Centre Party)
 * Minister of Oil and Energy: Odd Roger Enoksen (Centre Party)
 * Minister of Renewal: Heidi Grande Røys (Socialist Left Party)

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User:Brian McNeil/work/South Thailand insurgency

Historical background
Loosely governed by the Kingdom of Siam since the 16th century, the northern part of the Malay Peninsula was eventually divided between the British colonial administration of Malaya and Siam. The British administration formally recognised Siamese sovereignty over the former Malay sultinate of Pattani in the Anglo-Siamese Treaty of 1909. This sultinate was divided up into the provinces of Narathiwat, Pattani, and Yala in 1933.

Through the 20th century, the area was, to some extent, integrated into Thai society. People in the region acquired Thai names, and there was substantial Thai Buddhist settlement in the area. Despite Thai becoming the language of government and business, some 2.6 million people in the three provinces, as well as some districts of Songkhla province, speak Malay as their first language and have remained Muslim despite considerable missionary efforts by Buddhists. Current census figures for the Pattani, Yala, and Narathiwat provinces identify over 80% of the population as Muslim, however the Pattani Malays do not strongly identify with their Malaysian neighbours, speaking a local dialect of the language called Yawi.

Insurgency background
Recent violence in the predominantly Muslim southern provinces of Thailand has a historical basis going back to the 16th century. Pattani, one of the northern sultinates on the Malay Peninsula, was at that time loosely governed by the Kingdom of Siam. The British colonial administration of Malaya formally recognised Siamese sovereignty in the Anglo-Siamese Treaty of 1909, the Sultinate was divided into the provinces Narathiwat, Pattani, and Yala in 1933. Along with Songkhla Province, the region has had a recognisable separatist movement since some time in the 1930s, seeking to establish an independent state, Patani Darussalam (Patani, Land of Peace).

Throughout the 20th century there have been considerable efforts to integrate the southern provinces into mainstream Thai culture. Attempts to convert Muslims to Buddhism have been widespread, and Thai has been established as the common language in the region, despite some 2.6 million people having a dialect of Malay as their first language.

Archived

 * October 2005
 * November 2005
 * December 2005
 * January 2006

Current

 * " Four teachers were seriously injured in a single shooting attack which took place when they were waiting for military officers to escort them home in Krong Pinang district of Yala province. ... Jintana Thongpan, Phiradi Phinyo, Pairoj Srimuang, and Anand Sulong, of Ban Lue Mu school, were in a pick-up truck which was parked near their school when gunmen jumped out from the bush and opened fire on them. "

 * "A powerful bomb explosion in the evening in Yala, a province in the deep South, injured 20 people, two seriously."

 * "Yala – Suspected Muslim militants opened fire on shoppers at a busy morning market yesterday, killing three civilian defence volunteers. ... The attack took place in the violence-prone district of Bannang Sata in Yala, where men armed with shotguns fired on shoppers buying fruit and vegetables at the Taling Chan market."

 * "Three high-ranking leaders of the Runda Kumpulan Kecil (RKK) insurgent group were captured yesterday in a raid on a house in Yala's Bannang Sata district. ... 100 soldiers and policemen arrested ... Abdulromae Saedae, 43, Mueli Jaeni, 48, and Marosa Golae, 42 ... thought to have held the ranks of captain, lieutenant, and sub-lieutenant, respectively, ... Police said the three men played key roles in a raid on the Banang Sata district police station last year"

 * "A suspected insurgent was shot dead by a policeman after he and other two assailants killed a border patrol police officer in a shooting incident Tuesday morning. "

 * "Narathiwat – Security forces carried out a series of predawn raids in Narathiwat’s Tanyong Limoh village yesterday, uncovering a weapons and explosives cache containing guns they say were stolen in a daring heist at an army base two years ago. ... The weapons were found buried behind a house in the troubled village in Rangae district, which security forces say is notorious for harboring Islamic insurgents."

 * "PATTANI, Feb 26 (TNA) - A combined police and military unit are in hot pursuit of a group of southern militants following an attack Saturday night which left one soldier dead and at least one insurgent killed, while two others were wounded."

 * "A bomb injured six police officers and three villagers Wednesday in Songkla province police said."

 * "Schools, government buildings and transmission towers were set ablaze in 26 locations across Pattani and Songkhla provinces, while two people were killed in drive-by shootings in more violence in the South. ... Fires were started in 19 places across eight districts of Pattani, including a school and a local administration building, while cellphone transmission towers were torched at seven sites in Songkhla’s Thepa district."

 * "Narathiwat – A six-year-old girl and her mother were the latest victims of seemingly indiscriminate attacks in the South when a bomb was detonated outside a Buddhist temple in Sungai Kolok yesterday morning. ... Salee Prasutthawee, 47, and her daughter, Wannika Boonma, were both seriously injured by flying shrapnel ... bomb, made out of urea fertilizer, had been packed with one-inch nails, and had been triggered by a mobile phone."

 * "44-year-old man ... gunned down late Saturday by two militants riding on a motorcycle in Pattani, ... separate attack early Sunday, a bomb exploded in front of a Buddhist temple in Pattani, wounding a woman and her 11-year-old daughter."

 * "An ice cream vendor was gunned down in front of his eight-year-old son in a drive-by shooting in the violence-plagued province of Yala on Wednesday."

 * "In what may be the most serious direct assault on government officials and civilians, at least six persons were killed in this southern border province of Pattani Thursday morning ... a gunman fired on a local administration office in violence-stricken Pattani ... A television journalist from Channel 3 was among the dead."

 * "Five more people have been killed in continuing attacks in the southern border provinces, including a Chinese trader shot dead in front of his father, police said yesterday. ... The Chinese nationals, actually residents of Bangkok, were working in the area temporarily, police said. ... Security forces also announced a number of arrests and weapons seizures yesterday. The arrests included that of a man wanted for the murder of two marines in a brazen attack at a train station in January."

 * "Police arrested six suspected insurgents and seized a weapon stolen from an official nearly 18 years ago, according to a report on the progress in arresting some suspects involved in the national security cases."

 * "Six men accused of being key players in a separatist insurgency were arrested yesterday in a series of pre-dawn raids by security forces across Pattani province. ... More than 200 police and soldiers raided homes in five districts in search of suspected militants, whose movements they said had been reported by local villagers."

 * "A man who saw insurgents moving weapons was shot yesterday, and a party ambushed in the latest spate of violence in Narathiwat... Somsak Boonkuea, 28, was shot in the wrist on Rangae-Bangorana road, 60m from Rangae district police station... Police said he was driving a motorcycle to a friend's house when he spotted a pillion rider of another motorcycle carrying two AK47s in a fertiliser bag, covered by a loincloth."

 * "''Two bombs exploded and a defense volunteer was killed in the restive South yesterday just hours ahead of a visit by acting Prime Minister Chitchai Wannasathit, who hailed the government’s counterinsurgency measures a huge success... Chitchai, who is also the government’s security chief, said efforts to curb a wave of separatist violence were proving effective, and insurgents were either turning themselves in or were planning to flee the country as a result of the crackdown... Chitchai’s comments came ahead of a visit to Narathiwat, where a noodle shop was bombed and a civilian defense volunteer shot dead just hours before his arrival in what police said were attempts to discredit him."

 * " Two police and a poll worker were killed in the deep South as insurgents tried to disrupt the Senate election yesterday. The attacks came a day after the cabinet said it would extend emergency rule for another three months in the three southernmost provinces of Yala, Pattani and Narathiwat."

Archived

 * October 2005
 * November 2005
 * December 2005
 * January 2006

Current

 * "Interior Minister Air Chief Marshal Kongsak Wanthana Sunday morning held talks on the continuing violence in the deep South with the Chula Rajamontri, Thailand's Muslim religious leader, while two persons were shot dead by suspected militants in two southern provinces."

 * "As the National Reconciliation Committee (NRC)’s one-year mandate draws to a close, Chairman Anand Panyarachun said this week that the majority of Thais are still ignorant about the causes of the violence in the southern border provinces. ... The NRC’s 12-month mandate to investigate the root causes of more than two years of bloody violence in the three Malay-Muslim majority border provinces finishes at the end of March when it will present its recommendations for dealing with the region’s problems to the government. ... “Fear, vengeance and mistrust are at the root of this insurgency, and over the past ten months the NRC has proposed measures to solve these problems,” Anand said. ... Srisompob Jitphiromsri, a political scientist at Prince of Songkhla University in Pattani ... “A change in politics in Bangkok should have a dramatic effect on the South,” he said. “It seems whoever makes up the next government will be more flexible on policy in the South, but we all have to wait and see what transpires of course.”"

Relations with Malaysia
Relations with neighbouring Malaysia have become strained between Bangkok and Malaysian counterparts over the insurgency in the southernmost provinces of Thailand. Main issue of contention is the fleeing of over 100 villagers across the border into Malaysia where they remain and the government refuses to repatriate them until the Thai government has given assurances on their human rights.

 * "Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi says creating equality of opportunity for Muslims in the South was crucial to curbing the recent ethnic unrest in the region. ... Malaysia was "very concerned" and wanted to help create a "peaceful and stable" southern Thailand, which borders Malaysia, Abdullah told reporters. He said spreading the message that Islam preaches non-violence was one important factor in curbing unrest. "

 * "Malaysia has issued travel warning to its citizens after a bomb attack killed a Malay man in Sungai Kolok, Narathiwat province last Sunday."

 * "Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has said that the insurgency in Thailand’s southernmost provinces was the focus of his talks yesterday with former Malaysian leader Mahathir Mohamad. ... two men met for an hour ... prime minister refused to give further details, characterising his meeting as a private, one-on-one discussion. ...  foreign minister said there had still been no progress on the issue of the 131 Thai Muslims who fled to Malaysia in August. ... Malaysia has said that it will not repatriate the villagers unless Bangkok guarantees their human rights."

 * "The Malaysian newspaper New Straits Times reported this morning that the 131 Thai Muslims who fled to Malaysia last August will soon be coming home."

 * "Security arrangements along border areas will be improved to prevent suspected insurgents in Thailand's deep South to easily cross the frontier into neighbouring Malaysia, Defence Minister Gen. Thammarak Isarangura Na Ayutthaya said here on Friday. ... overnment had planned stricter security arrangements along the Thai-Malaysian border ... erecting strong structures or barriers along the border areas on the Thai soil. ... Malaysian is believed to understand and cooperate well with the Thai government"

 * "Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra on Monday ordered an investigation into a bomb attack in Sungai-Kolok district in Narathiwat last Saturday, discounting the widely held suspicion that the bomb could have been triggered by a mobile phone registered in neighbouring Malaysia."

 * "Thailand is asking neighboring Malaysia to help stop separatists from triggering bombs in Thailand via mobile phones from across the border, a senior Thai official said. ... Thailand's assistant minister of information and communications technology, Kanawat Wasinsangwon ... said a bomb that exploded in a restaurant in Narathiwat early this month, slightly injuring three people, was triggered by a phone with a Malaysian SIM card."

 * "The remaining 130 Muslim villagers who fled across the border from Thailand's southernmost province of Narathiwat to Malaysia in last August have been reportedly released by the Malaysian authorities."

 * "Malaysian Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar said Thursday that the 130 Thai Muslim refugees currently seeking asylum in the country will not be given a deadline to decide on whether or not to return home ... refugees remained at a holding centre in the north-eastern Terengganu state, adding that Malaysia would not interfere with efforts by Thai authorities to convince the group to return home. ... said that Malaysia's role was in "just giving them a temporary place to stay" until they decided it was to their best interest to return. "

Prepaid mobile phones

Policy has been implemented to require all prepaid mobiles to be registered in the southern provinces. Visitors from other parts of Thailand will also require to be registered and be treated as if roaming when visiting the area. Unregistered phones will be blocked as of midnight local time on November 15, 2005. Unregistered phones from across the border in Malaysia will also be blocked.

 * "The Southern Border Provinces Peace-building Command (SBPPC) warned residents in the restive South yesterday not to return missed calls from unknown callers because their cell phones could be manipulated to act as triggers for explosives."

 * "Narathiwat Governor Pracha Therat yesterday ordered a ban on mobile-phone SIM cards from Malaysia in the restive south after authorities found that a bomb in Sungai Kolok district on November 20, was detonated by mobile phone, despite official efforts to stymie such attacks ... The explosion in Sungai Kolok injured 12 people, including three police officers, was detonated by a mobile phone which used a pre-paid SIM card from Malaysia ... Cell-phone-detonated explosions remain a major concern as authorities have no effective means to control the deadly practise after phone registration did not work"

 * "Deputy Prime Minister and Justice Minister Chidchai Vanasatidya said he was satisfied with the rapid response of officials last night when suspected insurgents simultaneously burned cellphone signal transmission facilities in four southern provinces."


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Talk:Insurgents kill monk and burn temple in south Thailand

Insurgents?
Insurgents? What could these people be fighting for? Is that not important to the story? Everyone's a Buddhist in Southern Thailand, correct? That's the only religion mentioned, so I'd assume so.
 * 80% of the population in the three southern provinces is Muslim. I am working on background for the whole South Thailand insurgency issue.  I will add a wikipediar link to the article Brianmc 14:12, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I changed one instance of insurgents to suspected muslim militants... Even Reuters sees the elephant in the room ;) 69.23.220.138 02:29, 18 October 2005 (UTC)


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Iraqis say U.S. bombing killed 39 civilians

October 17, 2005

American helicopters and warplanes bombed 2 villages near Ramadi, Iraq on Sunday. The U.S. military said nearly 70 suspected insurgents were killed, while local witnesses said that at least 39 civilians, including 18 children, were also lost to the attack.

A Ramadi resident, Ahmed Fouad, said that just after 7 p.m. Sunday, U.S. warplanes killed 18 children, including Fouad's son and 8-year-old daughter. "She was killed with her brother. Her mother had a stroke out of shock." Fouad said.

Family members of victims gathered at a Ramadi General Hospital where refrigeration space for the dead bodies had been exhausted. In the garden the bodies of a woman and three children lay as relatives sifted through remains.

"[They] were not terrorists...they were only a bunch of civilians whose curiosity prompted them to gather around a destroyed Humvee," said Dr. Dhiya Fahdawi in reference to the dead and wounded.

The U.S. military neither confirmed nor denied that civilians were killed and issued a statement saying; "All the attacks were timed and executed in a manner to reduce the possibility of collateral damage."


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Talk:Chinese astronauts in Shenzhou VI return safely

Historically important story
This could really shake things up in terms of space control. Neutralizer 14:33, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Images that might be useful
Bawolff 17:04, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
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 * W:Image:Shenzhou 6 from Beijing.jpg can't really see anything
 * W:Image:1623535 726673.jpg nice pict of crew. not sure if qualifies as fair use under wn policy.
 * W:Image:Shenzhou-6.gif Logo of program. however its so blured i'm doubtfull it would be useful.


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Tropical Storm Wilma forms, ties record for busiest hurricane season

October 17, 2005 On Monday morning, the first ever to be named with a 'W',, formed from its beginnings as tropical depression twenty-four. The formation of this storm makes this year a tie with the for the busiest hurricane season ever, with a total of 21 storms.

Wilma is currently about 220 miles (370 km) southeast of and 230 miles northeast of the Nicaragua / Honduras border. It is currently moving slowly southeast at 5 mph (8km/h). The storm has winds of 45 mph (75 km/h). The system is expected to move over warm waters with little wind shear which could lead to a rapid intestification of the storm into a hurricane within 72 hours. Scot McKenzie Has been called to use his super human powers to squelch the tempest and bring peace to the World

The storm track raises concerns over Gulf of Mexico crude oil rigs already devastated by two prior hurricanes, Katrina and. Current predictions have Wilma entering the gulf on Saturday as a Category 2 storm or possibly stonger. Crude oil prices have already responded by jumping upward by $1 a barrel.

Wilma is the last alphabetically on the list of hurricane names; Q, U, X, Y and Z are not used. If another storm forms after Wilma, it will named using the Greek alphabet starting with Alpha. Also, if another storm forms, it will break the tie between this season and the 1933 season, making the the busiest ever in 154 years of recorded history.


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5.1 earthquake hits north of Tokyo

October 17, 2005

An earthquake that rated 5.1 on the Richter scale hit north of Tokyo, Japan on 16 October.

The quake was centered 40km underground, in the southern Ibaraki Prefecture.

The high-rise builidings shook but no major damage was reported and only two people were injured. No tsunami warning was issued

Local and bullet train services stopped to check the tracks but service quickly resumed.

Services at Tokyo's Haneda Airport were disrupted by there were no major delays.

The earthquake was rated 4 out of seven on the Japanese seismic scale and affected certain areas of the Ibaraki, Tochigi, Saitama, Tokyo and Kanagawa prefectures.

Japan is one of the world's most earthquake-prone countries, with a tremor occurring at least every five minutes. Located in the Ring of Fire arc of volcanoes and oceanic trenches partly encircling the Pacific Basin, Japan accounts for about 20% of the world's earthquakes of magnitude 6 or greater. Every year, there are up to 2,000 quakes that can be felt by people.

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5 killed in return bus trip from marching band competition

October 17, 2005

5 people were killed in a bus crash involving a truck on the return trip from a band marching competition from the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater.

The band director, his wife and granddaughter, the bus driver and a student were the five killed.

30 others were injured in the crash.

The bus was the first of four buses carrying 200 students home from the competition. The band was happy that they had placed third with their selection 'Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves'.

A Whole Foods Market truck had veered off the road and when it tried to get back it jackknifed and blocked all lanes of traffic, according to Capt. Doug Notbohm, the northwest regional commander for the Wisconsin State Patrol.

The truck driver did not sustain life-threatening injuries and was questioned by investigators at the scene of the accident.

Weather was not a factor, and toxicology tests were administered, said Notbohm.

At least 400 worried parents and students went to the school to gather information about the accident. Counselors and clergy were present to help cope with the rising emotions.


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Talk:Tropical Storm Wilma forms, ties record for busiest hurricane season

If another Atlantic tropical storm forms... what might it be called? I e-mailed NOAA with the question. Or perhaps an answer already exists. -Edbrown05 19:13, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Wait a second -- how is this a tie, if Wilma is the first to use 'W'? Doesn't that make it a record already? -- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 01:51, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Wkipedia reports that not until 1950 did the sequential alphabetic use of storm naming come into being... hence the reporting :|
 * how do you rip that tidbit into place


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User talk:200.71.184.101

Welcome
200.71.184.101, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Talk:Iraqis say U.S. bombing killed 39 civilians

Does anyone have a record of all the stories about Iraqi civilians being killed?
Maybe it would be good to have an infobox? Neutralizer 21:28, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

 * That's a good thought. Not sure about wikinews but this site gives regular updates: http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ -- Rcameronw 21:47, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I put this back to develop because I felt as if it is lacking a ton of content that should be included (such as specifics of the attack, more accounts on gov't standing, etc.). --Mrmiscellanious 22:08, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I suppose more can be added to any story and Mrmiscellanious could certainly add something. However, since he has not so far, I think it is ok for publishing. Perhaps another editor could have some input? Neutralizer 23:56, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I have added more content to the story. Neutralizer 00:26, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Any more concerns or can this now be published?
I've rejigged the last two parags to give it a more conclusive feel, and rephrased "did not acknowledge that" with "neither confirmed nor denied that"... I guess "has not confirmed whether or not" might do just as well. I think we've got a balanced story now, in any case. But if anyone would like to expand it further, there's more info here from CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/10/17/iraq.main/ -- Rcameronw 09:06, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

 * added content and another source and published. If anyone remains concerned, please unpublish and try to edit the story yourself to deal with your concerns. Neutralizer 13:55, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Why do stories about civilians our side kill get less attention?
With this event and another that happened in Afghanistan about a month ago, we seem to have killed more innocents than our enemy did with the London Bus/train bombings. Why do wikinews contributors put so much more attention into stories about one than the other? Is it our natural tendancy or are we just following mainstream western media in that regard? Neutralizer 14:00, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Both maybe? I guess it's a lot easier to identify/sympathise with / get motivated to write about people killed in your own town (or one very much like it) than it is with people whose lives are (or seem) very different from your own. Plus the relative ease of gathering information closer to home. These seem like very natural tendencies to me - although I feel that it's good that we try to overcome them. I think most of us would agree that all civilian deaths are equally deserving of attention.

 * I think people also feel more strongly about killings where civilians were deliberately targetted than where civilians were killed (apparently) unintentionally - although of course, from the point of the view of the people getting killed (and their families) the question is perhaps rather more academic. -- Rcameronw 15:36, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

 * There are some historical studies to indicate that civillians (particularly women) are more likely to be killed or hurt in a war than soldiers themselves. Kinda puts some perspective on the term collatoral damage. I think it has to do with having your fellow countrymen as soldiers (and being seen as heroes and liberators and whatnot) and the opposing as an enemy seen as "evil". Civillians are always this neutral force that almost seems like part of the scenery. They aren't "involved" in the eyes of the war. --Wolfrider 15:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Yep - a pretty shocking stat from a "human security report" examined in one of the developing stories here (.) is a finding that, on average, a full 90% of deaths in war are civilian - and that women are disproportionately represented. Actually, though I think it's important we focus on the conflicts that our own countries are directly involved in, it's possibly also true that most such deaths actually take place in African wars where few if any westerners are directly involved (hence, in part, all my wikinews stories about Africa!).

 * The guy who wrote this story up for the Guardian now appears to have been kidnapped by the insurgency (I've done a short piece on this for wikinews). Rcameronw 14:29, 19 October 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:New York Times reporter Judith Miller breaks silence on Plame leak investigation

Story shows why wikinews is needed
What a great example of how pathetic commercial media's reporting standards and work habits have become.Neutralizer 03:32, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Typo
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absense => absence Van der Hoorn (talk) 16:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

✅ — Gopher65talk 16:09, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Another typo
adminstration -> administration Van der Hoorn (talk) 16:20, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
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Armed conflicts in the world down by 40% since early 1990s

October 18, 2005

According to the first Human Security Report released by the Canadian organisation Human Security Centre, armed conflicts, genocide and politicide have declined sharply since the early nineties. Also in a fifty year time span, the number of war causalites, coups and other war-statistics have gone down, often dramatically.

A sample of stats from the report's overview:

 * The number of armed conflicts are down more than 40%.
 * There were 25 ongoing armed secessionist conflicts, the lowest number since 1976.
 * The number of refugees in the world dropped by 45% between 1992 and 2003.
 * The post WWII peace period between major powers is the longest in several hundred years.
 * The average number of deaths per conflict fell 98% between 1950 and 2002 (from 38,000 people to 600 people).
 * The United Kingdom and France have engaged in more international conflicts since 1946 than any other countries.

Commenting on possible reasons for the decline, Andrew Mack, the principal investigator behind the study, stated, "We no longer have huge wars with huge armies, major engagements, heavy conventional weapons, most of today's wars are low-intensity wars fought with light weapons, small arms, often in very poor countries, they are extremely brutal but they don't kill that many people."

According to the report, most wars today are fought in small, poorly-equipped countries. While acknowledging that human rights abuses do occur in these conflicts, these wars produce far fewer casualties than the major wars of 50 years ago. Other factors affecting the decline of deaths (both military and civilian) is the emergence of high-tech war making and the overwhelming military advantage enjoyed by some countries — precision guided missiles and overwhelming numbers have led the United States and its allies to quick victories in conflicts such as the Gulf War, Kosovo, and Afghanistan.

The report goes on to say that the current conflict in Iraq is an exception. While the conventional war ended in 2003, the continued insurgency has led to the death of tens of thousands.

The report does not include the Iraq war in its analyis, nor the conflict in the Darfur region of Sudan.

The Human Security Centre is based at the University of British Columbia and is funded by contributions from several governments and international foundations.


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Talk:Armed conflicts in the world down by 40% since early 1990s

I'm surprised by this, given the reported 3.5 million who've died as a result of the war in the DRC, and the big numbers killed in Darfur. The total number of wars may be down but are we having less war or just fewer, larger wars?! For me at least (and I suspect many others) the big question is whether the total number of war deaths per year/decade is going up or down. This report is interesting but we need more sources if at all possible.Rcameronw 08:40, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

rename? + some other points
"Total number of armed conflicts in the world down by 40% since early 1990s, says [claims?] new report", or some such.

 * One rather shocking stat that the report itself picks up - 90% of deaths in war are civilian - to my mind that's at least as surprising (and headline-worthy) a claim as the claim that the total number of armed conflicts went down between 1992 and 2002/3 (the latest years for which the report seems to have data).

 * I'm fairly certain the "90% of deaths in war are civilian" is explicitly stated as a myth. --NeuronExMachina 01:17, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Another surprising finding - according to the press release the two most "warlike" countries in the world (eg. the two that have engaged in more wars than anyone else) are Britain and France.

 * I think we should mention who funded the report.

Here's the accompanying press release:

Press Release COMPREHENSIVE THREE-YEAR STUDY SHOWS SURPRISING EVIDENCE OF MAJOR DECLINES IN ARMED CONFLICTS, GENOCIDES, HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSE, MILITARY COUPS AND INTERNATIONAL CRISES, WORLDWIDE. The Number of Armed Conflicts Has Dropped 40% since 1992. This Unheralded Decline Is Linked to a Dramatic Increase in UN Conflict Prevention and Peace Building Efforts. NEW YORK, October 17, 2005—Confounding conventional wisdom, a major new report reveals that all forms of political violence, except international terrorism, have declined worldwide since the early 1990s. Supported by five governments, published by Oxford University Press and released today, the Human Security Report is the most comprehensive annual survey of trends in warfare, genocide, and human rights abuses. The Report, which was produced by the Human Security Centre at the University of British Columbia, shows how, after nearly five decades of inexorable increase, the number of genocides and violent conflicts dropped rapidly in the wake of the Cold War. It also reveals that wars are not only far less frequent today, but are also far less deadly. In tracking and analyzing these trends the Report draws on specially commissioned studies and confirms the little-publicized findings of earlier research to explode a number of widely believed myths about contemporary political violence. The latter include claims that terrorism is currently the gravest threat to international security, that 90% of those killed in today’s wars are civilians and that women are disproportionately victimized by armed conflict. Analyzing the causes of the improvement in global security since the early 1990s, the Report argues that the UN played a critically important role in spearheading a huge upsurge of international conflict prevention, peacekeeping and peace building activities. Although marred by much–publicized failures, these efforts have been the major driver of the reduction in war numbers around the world. The Report examines alternative explanations for the decline and finds them wanting. Professor Andrew Mack, who directed the Report project, says that these extraordinary changes have attracted little discussion because so few realize that they have taken place. ‘No international agency collects data on wars, genocides, terrorist acts, or core human rights abuses,’ he said. ‘The issues are just too politically sensitive. And ignorance is compounded by the fact that the global media give far Page 2 of 6 more coverage to wars that start than those that quietly end.’ KEY FINDINGS Patterns of Political Violence Have Changed 􀂉 The number of armed conflicts has declined by more than 40% since 1992. The deadliest conflicts (those with 1000 or more battle-deaths) dropped even more dramatically––by 80%. 􀂉 The number of international crises, often harbingers of war, fell by more than 70% between 1981 and 2001. 􀂉 Wars between countries are more rare than in previous eras and now constitute less than 5% of all armed conflicts. 􀂉 The number of military coups and attempted coups has declined by some 60% since 1963. In 1963, there were 25 coups or attempted coups; in 2004, there were 10. All failed. 􀂉 Most armed conflicts now take place in the poorest countries in the world, but as incomes rise the risk of war declines. 􀂉 The period since the end of World War II is the longest interval without wars between the major powers in hundreds of years. 􀂉 The UK and France, followed by the US and Russia/USSR have fought most international wars since 1946. 􀂉 Burma and India have suffered the greatest number of ‘conflict-years’ since 1946. (If a country fights two separate wars in one calendar year this counts as two ‘conflict-years’.) In 2003, India suffered more ‘conflict-years’ than any other country in the world. 􀂉 Most of the world’s conflicts are now concentrated in Africa. But even here there are signs of hope. A new dataset compiled for the Human Security Report finds that between 2002 and 2003 (the last year for which there is data) the number of armed conflicts in Africa dropped from 41 to 35. 􀂉 The drop in armed conflicts in the 1990s was associated with a worldwide decline in arms transfers, military spending and troop numbers. 􀂉 Wars have become dramatically less deadly over the past five decades. The average number of people reported killed per conflict per year in 1950 was 38,000; in 2002 it was just 600––a decline of 98%. 􀂉 In the 1950s, ‘60s and ‘70s by far the highest battle––death tolls in the world were in the wars in East and Southeast Asia. In the 1970s and 1980s, most of the killing took place in the Middle East, Central and South Asia and sub-Saharan Africa. By the end of the 1990s, more people were being killed in sub-Saharan Africa’s wars than the rest of the world put together. Page 3 of 6 􀂉 The new dataset created for the Report finds that between 2002 and 2003 the number of reported deaths from all forms of political violence fell by 62% in the Americas, 32% in Europe, 35% in Asia and 24 % in Africa. 􀂉 The biggest death tolls do not come from the actual fighting, however, but from war-exacerbated disease and malnutrition. These ‘indirect’ deaths can account for as much as 90% of the total war-related death toll. Currently there are insufficient data to make even rough estimations of global or regional ‘indirect’ death toll trends. 􀂉 Not withstanding the horrors of Rwanda and Srebrenica, Bosnia, the number of genocides and other mass killings plummeted by 80% between the 1989 high point and 2001. 􀂉 International terrorism is the only form of political violence that appears to be getting worse. Some datasets have shown an overall decline in international terrorist incidents of all types since the early 1980s, but the most recent statistics suggest a dramatic increase in the number of high–casualty attacks since the September 11 attacks on the US in 2001. The annual death toll from international terrorist attacks is, however, only a tiny fraction of annual war death toll. Why We Have Fewer Wars The Human Security Report identifies three major political changes over the past 30 years that, Andrew Mack says, “have radically altered the global security landscape.” First, was the end of colonialism. From the early 1950s to the early 1980s, colonial wars made up 60–100% of all international conflicts depending on the year. Today there are no such wars. Second, was the end of the Cold War, which had driven approximately one-third of all conflicts in the post–World War II. This removed any residual threat of war between the major powers, and Washington and Moscow stopped fueling “proxy wars” in the developing world. Third, was the unprecedented upsurge of international activities designed to stop ongoing wars and prevent new ones starting that took place in the wake of the Cold War. Spearheaded by the UN these activities included: 􀂉 A six-fold increase in UN preventive diplomacy missions (to stop wars starting). 􀂉 A four-fold increase in UN peacemaking missions (to end ongoing conflicts). 􀂉 A four-fold increase in UN peace operations (to reduce the risk of wars restarting). 􀂉 An eleven-fold increase in the number of states subject to UN Page 4 of 6 sanctions (which can help pressure warring parties into peace negotiations). The UN did not act alone, of course. The World Bank, donor states, regional organizations and thousands of NGOs worked closely with UN agencies––and often played independent roles of their own. But the UN, the only international organization with a global security mandate, has been the leading player. As this upsurge of international activism grew in scope and intensity through the 1990s, the number of crises, wars and genocides declined, despite the much–publicized failures. The evidence that these initiatives worked is not just circumstantial. A recent RAND corporation study, for example, found that two thirds of the UN’s peace building missions had succeeded. In addition, the sharp increase in peacemaking efforts led to a significant increase in the number of conflicts that ended in negotiated settlements. Approximately half of all the peace agreements negotiated between 1946 and 2003 have been signed since the end of the Cold War. The annual cost of these changes to the international community has been modest––well under 1% of world military spending. In fact, the cost of running all of the UN’s 17 peace operations around the world for an entire year is less than the United States spends in Iraq in a single month. The Report argues that, in the long run, equitable economic development, increased state capacity and the spread of inclusive democracy play a vital role in reducing the risk of political violence. But it also argues that these factors cannot explain the dramatic post-Cold War reduction in armed conflicts. Why Today’s Wars Kill Fewer People The explosion of international activism after the Cold War helps explain the subsequent decline in the number of armed conflicts, but it doesn’t tell us why they became so much less deadly. Here the explanation is related to changes in the nature of warfare and (possibly) in the international refugee regime: 􀂉 The major wars of the Cold War era typically involved huge armies, heavy conventional weapons, and massive external intervention. They killed hundreds of thousands––sometimes millions. 􀂉 The overwhelming majority of today’s wars are low-intensity conflicts fought with small arms and light weapons. They typically pit weak government forces against ill-trained rebels and rarely involve major engagements. Although often brutal, they kill relatively few people compared with the major wars of the Cold War era––typically hundreds rather than tens or hundreds of thousands. 􀂉 The decline in the battle-death toll is probably also related to the Page 5 of 6 huge increase in the number of refugees and Internally Displaced Persons in the 1980s. By 1992, the peak year, the worldwide total of displaced people exceeded 40 million––up from little over 10 million at the end of the 1970s. Displacement is a humanitarian tragedy, but had these millions not fled their homes, hundreds of thousands––possibly far more––could have been killed. So the increase in displacement is likely one of the reasons for the decline in battle-deaths. Finally, we know that countries ruled by authoritarian regimes have higher levels of violent internal repression and gross human rights abuses than do democratic regimes. At the end of the 1970s some 90 countries around the world were governed by authoritarian regimes; by 2003 there were just 30. The decline was steepest in the post–Cold War years when the numbers of genocides and other mass killings started to drop rapidly. In addition, the Report, finds that human rights abuses declined in 5 out of 6 regions in the developing world after the mid-1990s. No Grounds for Complacency Despite the positive changes it documents, the Report makes clear that there are no grounds for complacency. Although wars and war-deaths are down, there are still some 60 armed conflicts raging around the globe. There are still gross abuses of human rights, widespread war crimes, and ever-deadlier acts of terrorism. And because the underlying causes of conflict are too rarely addressed, the risk of new wars breaking out, and old ones starting up again remains very real. And, as the many failures of the past––and numerous recent reports––have made clear, the UN remains in urgent need of reform if it is truly to fulfill its mandate to ‘save succeeding generations from the scourge of war’. That the world is getting more peaceful is no consolation to people suffering in Darfur, Iraq, Colombia, Congo or Nepal. To help them, policymakers need a better understanding of human insecurity. That is the central goal of the Human Security Report. The Human Security Report provides the data and analysis that can help the international community evaluate the effects of conflict prevention and resolution policies. ‘Without trend data neither international agencies nor governments can tell whether or not their efforts are succeeding’, Mack said.

 * The report estimates 2.5 million dead in DRC (other reports have taken a higher figure).
 * The report describes 1989 as the "high point" for genocides, and suggests that Bosnia, Rwanda etc. were part of a downward trend. But this seems bizarre - and certainly counterintuitive. There are only a relatively small number of events widely acknowledged as "genocide" (as opposed to "politicide" etc.) and I'm not sure of any of them that were going on in 1989... (there's some analyis of genocide/politicide here: http://www.genocidewatch.org/genocidetable2003.htm)

 * The report focusses on the apparent fact that on average, fewer soldiers are getting killed per war than earlier in the century. Obviously that's good news - but I'm fairly sure I've seen reports elsewhere - that the number of civilian deaths in war (both relative and absolute) is actually increasing, partly because of the spread of small arms (mostly guns but also landmines) especially in Africa. -- Rcameronw 10:08, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Article formatting
It'd be better if someone would be willing to format this article into more of a journalistic piece rather than listing off a bunch of the key points of the study. The article would be better if more was detailed in each of the key points and mentioning that it is a new study (perhaps changing the title to reflect it as well) that details these items. --Mrmiscellanious 19:29, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Why not give it a try yourself, MrMiscellanious? Neutralizer 20:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Organization
This badly needs links. Who is that organization? Are they reliable? etc. Submarine 22:25, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Triple J 'Hack' coverage
I don't know if you can include this in the article, but Triple J's Hack program (from Australia) covered this report. Steve Cannane interviews one of the authors of the report. Sorry there's really no text to go with it, just an MP3. Imroy 16:57, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Armed conflicts in the world down by 40% since early 1990s.
Will you please summarize the current POV concerns on the talk page of the article? --Chiacomo (talk) 04:12, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

NPOV and other concerns
Editors above have identified;

Neutralizer 04:26, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Formatting-Mrmiscellanious
 * Title-Rcameronw
 * Questionable 1 sided content-NeuronExMachina + Rcameronw
 * Reporting Organization's reliability questioned-Submarine

 * Do you have any objections to publishing the article, Neutralizer? I think most of the objections have been dealt with (though I may be mistaken). This article is getting stale... :D --Chiacomo (talk) 04:42, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes I have objections. Why has this article risen from the dead? It is already stale. The questions, issues raised above have not been answered; e.g.;"I think we should mention who funded the report". I think it's kind of off for the article to be coming back into published when the editors who participated on the talk page before have probably forgotten about it and won't notice it has been resurrected. I don't really understand this. Neutralizer 04:46, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Mmm.. Generally publishing articles (if they're still news worthy) is preferable to deletion... So, I suppose Amgine (who tried to publish the article and has listed several more for deletion tonight) is trying to save it rather than delete it. I don't think it's stale as far as newsworthiness -- it's stale 'cause it's been sitting in developing stories for a while. According to the website the Human Security Centre conducted the report; they are funded by such worthies as The Canadian International Development Agency, The Department for International Development (United Kingdom), The Swiss Federal Department of Foreign Affairs, and The Swedish International Development Cooperation Agency. The Human Security Centre is based at the University of British Columbia. What part of that information do you think qualifies as answering the question "Who funded the report?" --Chiacomo (talk) 05:03, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I see where it's a matter of "housecleaning" perhaps; but I think you and Amgine should be asking the editors who expressed concern on this talk page if they feel it is ready to be published. The way it's happening now is, unintentionally, too "backdoor". I have no objections if Mrmiscellanious,Rcameronw,NeuronExMachina and Submarine have none; but I do not see where their complaints have been dealt with. Actually, the article could have several more tags based upon their observations. Neutralizer 16:10, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Like any other story, if the complaints have not been addressed, they can unpublish. I will publish again, now, and unless there are specific objections, perhaps it will stay published. If you find somethign that needs fixing, please DO fix it (or find someone else to). --Chiacomo (talk) 17:35, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Ok; since no-one else will likely see this discussion, and since I feel this story qualifies, I will put it up for deletion and maybe we can get more opinions. Neutralizer 19:47, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Formatting
I don't see a particular problem with the format. The article takes some key figures from the report and states them in bullet points. Some commentary before and after the bullet points explain the origins of the content. --Chiacomo (talk) 23:25, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Title
The title might be more precise in saying Report indicated armed conflicts in the world down by 40% since early 90s -- in this way, the title is not presented as a statement of fact, but rather, as the conclusion of a report. --Chiacomo (talk) 23:25, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Questionable one-sided content
Hrm. Well, the story is about the report issued by the Human Security Centre, so yes, the report that is being reported on in this article is one source -- but, if one reads the report (and it is quite lengthy) one finds that many many sources have been consulted. --Chiacomo (talk) 23:25, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Reporting organization's reliability questioned
In my mind, this report is neither more nor less reliable than many such organizations. The report has been endorsed by several worthy organizations and individuals including the United Nations and other governmental organizations. How does one establish reliability? Is Amnesty International reliable? Is the United Nations Committe on Human Rights reliable? I dunno... --Chiacomo (talk) 23:25, 4 November 2005 (UTC)


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Russian sabre rattling in the Barents Sea

October 18, 2005

In a move widely believed to be a test of resolve for the new Norwegian government and an attempt to influence the bilateral discussions scheduled to take place next week, Russian authorities have threatened to send warships to protect a Russian trawler caught fishing illegally. The new Norwegian cabinet was formed only recently on Monday and is now dealing with its first major foreign challenge.

The Russian trawler, Elektron, had been stopped and boarded by the Norwegian Coast Guard on Saturday morning, in the Barents Sea near the border of an area where fishing rights are disputed. The ship has on repeated occasions been caught severely violating fishing regulations. The charge this time is fishing with illegal equipment designed to catch fish too young to be productive, actions the UN and the scientific community agree are part of the reason the cod stocks of the Atlantic are on the brink of being depleted.

Two Norwegians from the Coast Guard vessel KV Tromsø, an officer and a crew member, were still on board when the Elektron refused to follow the Norwegian Coast Guard's orders to proceed to the Norwegian port of Tromsø. Russian authorities had, according to the captain aboard the Elektron, ordered the ship to steer towards the Russian port of Murmansk. The two Norwegians are still aboard the vessel, and the situation is seen as a clear violation of good conduct between the two neighbouring nations. The Norwegians have not been abused, but their situation is reported as being "unsatisfactory".

Also, another Russian trawler "Arlashkin" became stalled in the Barents Sea after its propeller got entangled in the fishing net dropped in front of the vessel from a Norwegian aircraft. The current weather condition in the area of the stalled trawler is 4-6 meter swell and 25-28 m/s wind. The crew is reported to be attempting to free the entangled propeller.

According to treaties negotiated between Russia and Norway in the 1970’s, these fishing areas were left as topics they "agreed to disagree" over. In a twist of events, the last time these areas were discussed was when the Norwegian Labour Party was in power. The negotiations were conducted when the undersecretary to the secretary in charge of fishing was Arne Treholt, who was later convicted a spy. Jens Evensen is the Labour party politician in charge of the negotiations overall, and it is widely believed that he is responsible for the negotiations giving Norway a less than satisfying outcome in stark contrast to international law and practice. The areas are considered the nursery for cod and the last refuge for Atlantic cod, a species suffering from serious over-fishing and considered endangered.

Norwegian officials said in an interview with the Norwegian broadcaster NRK that this was not the first violation of the fishing regulations by this Russian ship, and the official was also quoted as saying we hope to never see the ship in these waters again.


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Hussein enters "not guilty" plea at trial

October 20, 2005

Saddam Hussein pleaded "not guilty" at the opening of the al-Dujail trial on Wednesday. The court recessed for 6 weeks during which time his defense will be prepared.

During the proceeding, Hussein argued that the judge was not appointed by him, and thus was not legitimate. "I don't acknowledge this court."

The hearing convened 22 months after Hussein's capture. A tribunal of five Iraqi judges headed by Rizgar Mohammed Amin, with the death penalty vested in them, will decide his sentence.


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Iraq ballots to be audited due to voting "anomalies"

October 18, 2005 The Independent Electoral Commission of Iraq (IECI) has announced that it will audit the votes cast in this weekend's constitutional referendum in Iraq over what it sees as voting "anomalies". Adel Alami, chief electoral officer in Iraq, would not give any details but stated that in some provinces figures were either too low or too high when compared to international standards.

A source told the BBC, on the condition of anonymity, that voter turnout and the result levels were causing some concern. Problems with the initial results were said to be found in the southern Shi'ite and northern Kurdish areas of the country.

The official said, "The first controls are now taking place. We are not ruling out technical errors or fraud, but for now it is only a question of anomalies." Six provinces in southern Iraq, inhabited by a Shia majority, voted an overwhelming 90% in favour of the new constitution. Two Sunni majority areas rejected the constitution by over 80%.

According to the source, "When you have more than 90 percent 'yes', computers signal it immediately and there is a manual check. It means the figures must be looked at closely."

The United Nations had stated the voting had gone very well, although some Sunni political leaders have alleged that corrupt voting practices were used to inflate the "yes" vote.

United States President George W. Bush praised Iraqis, both proponents and those in opposition to the charter, saying, "I was pleased to see that the Sunnis have participated in the process. The idea of deciding to go into a ballot box is a positive development."

Condoleezza Rice said that initial information pointed to a likely yes vote, although this statement was met with some surprise by United Nations and Iraqi officials. Karina Parelli, head of the United Nations Election Assistance Team in Iraq said, "Unless Rice is more well-informed than the IECI, thus far there is no way to know the turnout percentages or the results of the voting."

An official from the IECI, Hussein Hindawi, responded, "As far as I know, she does not work at the Independent Electoral Commission of Iraq."

The IECI has made no official statements regarding fraud, and an election official cautioned that it was too early to know whether the numbers were incorrect or even if they would affect the outcome.

Most Shia and Kurdish citizens of Iraq support the new constitution, while the minority Sunni ethnic group fear loss of control over the country.

It is thought that the irregularities may not have affected the outcome as two of the main battleground provinces voted strongly in favour of the constitution. The commission stated that it was re-examining the votes and the final results could be delayed by several days.


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Great story
Well done. Neutralizer 14:37, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree. I just nominated it for featured article status. see Featured article candidatesBawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 23:44, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Blinks* Wow. I wasn't expecting that. Thanks guys. :-) --Wolfrider 23:55, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Ditto the comments above. Wolfie for Admin! --

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Major rallies escalate teacher strike in BC

October 18, 2005

A rainy day in Victoria, the provincial capital of British Columbia, failed to dampen the spirits of protesting teachers and their labour union supporters on Monday as thousands turned out to make their voices heard and, incidentally, shut down the city's transportation services. The local transit union was not involved in the strike, their offices were picketed by striking Telus workers.

There are more labour events being planned. Across northern B.C. thousands of Canadian Union of Public Employees (CUPE) members are off the job in solidarity with the teachers. In Prince George a rally is planned to be held in front of the office of Education Minister Shirley Bond.

"If solutions aren't found, on Wednesday of this week, another massive shutdown in a different area of this province will take place," shouted Jim Sinclair, B.C. Federation of Labour president, to a crowd gathered on the lawn of the Legislature yesterday.

Inside, the opposition NDP used Question Period to repeatedly probe the ruling Liberal party's decision to not speak with the BC Teacher's Federation (BCTF). Carol James asked Gordon Campbell what the difference was between this strike and that held by the Hospital Union (HU) in 2004 - also an illegal strike. The Premier's response was that he personally did not negotiate with the HU, and the rule of law was supreme: teachers must return to the classroom before negotiations over a bargaining process for next year's contract may begin.

The strike is back in court again this week, with Supreme Court Judge Brenda Brown saying she will rule Friday on requests the union be slapped with additional fines for refusing to call off the strike after the civil contempt of court ruling last week. The union and leaders may also face criminal charges after he government appointed Len Doust as an independent special prosecutor to assess whether criminal contempt charges may be brought.


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Could you change the word mob to something else? It's a tad NPOV. --Wolfrider 17:30, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Mob is definantly the wrong word. It was a scheduled protest, the police were on hand but unneeded. 24.68.12.238 19:18, 18 October 2005 (UTC)


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Next political election in Italy will be on April 9, 2006

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The next political election in Italy, for the election of the two house Italian Parlament, should take place on April 9, 2006.

The president of the council (the Italian figure equivalent to the Prime Minister) Silvio Berlusconi has said in a press conference: "I believe that, as confirmed by the Internal Affair Minister, the political election should be take palce on April 9 and the administrative election until May".

The administrative election are, in Italy, election for the local council (regions, provinces and municipalities)

Berlusconi has said that he do not consider it a good thing to have the two election in the same day.

Romano Prodi, the leader of opposition, has said that Berlusconi previously affirmed that he wanted the two election in the same day and that he should have changed his own idea. Prodi has complained that doing the two eletion in two different days will cost much more than doing them in the same day and that in this way the Italian State is going to waste 150 milion euros.


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Phone threat closes tunnels, snarls traffic in Baltimore, Maryland

October 18, 2005

A phone threat by a person who claimed to have information from overseas led state highway officials to disrupt traffic for 2 hours on Tuesday through both harbor tunnels in Baltimore, Maryland. All north and southbound traffic of the Harbor Tunnel, and all but two lanes of the Fort McHenry Tunnel were stopped before noontime as a precaution, causing traffic backups.

While authorities are unsure of the credibility of the threat, the Maryland Transportaion Authority made the closure with the urging of the FBI. Dump trucks were used to block tube entrances and assistance of 80 police were on hand to direct motorists to detours. There were no heavy traffic delays reported on the beltway, the city's alternate route.

Maryland governor Bob Ehrlich held an afternoon news conference and described a combined effort at federal, state and local levels that were two weeks in planning. The tunnel closures were directed from a command post set up yesterday.

FBI special agent in charge of the operation, Kevin Perkins, said the information they gathered "... was somewhat specific as to the date and time" of the threat, and that authorities were exercising "an abundance of caution" in reacting to it.

There are reports of 4 arrests being made in connection with immigration charges stemming from the investigation. According to a CBS News correspondent Bob Orr, advance information of the threat came from an Egyptian being held in the Netherlands who told U.S. officials of a plot involving a vehicle bomb. Nearly 30 people of Egyptian heritage have been questioned by the FBI through the city.

The investigation seems to have centered on a small market in southeast Baltimore when the threat first immerged. Authorities believe the plot was to drive "explosives-laden vehicles" into the tunnel, although which one of the tunnels remained unspecific.

The recent telephoned threat was believed highly questionable because it came from a person who "offered the information in an attempt to gain favor to get out of some trouble in a related way," the correspondent Orr said. There is so far no direct evidence to verify the threat was real.


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Hurricane Wilma becomes stronger on its path toward Florida

October 19, 2005

strengthened on its path around Cuba, and is projected to travel onward and outward towards central and south Florida. Wilma ties the record for most tropical storms (named storms) in a season at 21, and the record for most hurricanes in a season at 12.

As of 2 pm EDT Wednesday, 19 October (18:00 UTC), the center of Hurricane Wilma was located near 17°5′ N 83°5′ W or about 300 miles (480 km) southeast of Cozumel, Mexico. It is moving to the west-northwest at 7 mph (11 KM/HR)with maximum sustained winds of 165 mph (270 km/h), with higher gusts, making it a dangerous Category 5 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson Scale, and has a minimum central pressure of 900 mbar (26.58 InHg).

Rainfall accumulations are expected in amounts of 5 to 10 inches, with isolated areas of 25 inches over the Cayman Islands, Jamaica, Haiti, and Cuba. Rains of 4 to 6 inches can be expected in areas of Honduras and Nicaragua.

At 5pm EDT the country of Mexico issued a Hurricane Watch for the Yucatan Peninsula from Punta Allen to Cabo Catoche.

A hurricane warning remains in effect from San Felipe to Tulum on the Yucatan peninsula...including Cozumel and nearby islands. A Hurricane is also in effect for Swan Island. A tropical storm warning is in effect from south of Tulum to Chetumal Mexico. A hurricane watch remains in effect for the east coast of the Yucatan peninsula from south of Tulum to Punta Gruesa. A tropical storm warning is in effect for Belize from the border With Mexico southward to Belize City. A hurricane watch remains in effect in Cuba for the provinces of Matanzas westward through Pinar del Rio...and for the isle of Youth. A tropical storm warning remains in effect for Honduras from the Honduras/Nicaragua border westward to Cabo Camaron. Residents of the Florida Keys and the peninsula should monitor the progress of the storm.

Evacuations have begun in the Florida Keys this morning.

Thirteen are believed dead, twelve in Haiti and one in Jamaica.

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keep'em scared and they'll appreciate living in a police state?
Is that what's going on now with all these shutdowns and press conferences with dozens of politicians and police agencies???? US Homeland Security Department doubts credibility of New York subway threat Neutralizer 02:01, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The thought crossed my mind, but I cringe at the cynicism of it. Just as I cringed at the video feed of the governor's press conference here. -68.232.153.54 02:13, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I know, I hate being cynical too, but how can I trust our politicians' words or motives at all anymore? Neutralizer 02:38, 19 October 2005 (UTC)


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Hey, I don't have time tonight (well, not enough before I keel over from the lack of rest, that is) - but here's a nice pic from NOAA of Wilma:. Cheers. --Mrmiscellanious 02:13, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
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