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France knew of and told CIA about al-Qaeda hijack plans prior to 9/11

April 17, 2007

Reports produced by the French secret services reveal that they knew that al-Qaeda was planning attacks on the United States at least eight months before the 9/11 attacks and that the attack was going to involve U.S. jetliners, the French newspaper Le Monde reports.

Le Monde also says one of the reports was handed to Bill Murray, a CIA agent working at the Paris station at the time, but no record of that handover has been released in the U.S. governments 9/11 commission report in 2004.

"[The French government knew of a] plan to hijack an aircraft by Islamic radicals," said the report, adding the planned attack had been discussed by al-Qaeda, Taliban and Uzbek militants in 2000. However; the Washington Post and The Daily times mistakenly say that the Uzbeck militants were Chechen.

According to the reports, al-Qaeda was planning to launch the 9/11 attack in March or September in 2000, but that the attack was delayed because of "differences of opinion, particularly over the date, objective and participants."

"You have to remember that a plane hijack (in January 2001) did not have the same significance as it did after September 11. At the time, it implied forcing a plane to land at an airport and undertaking negotiations," said Pierre-Antoine Lorenzi.

The CIA said that the report does not show that the U.S. or France had advance knowledge that an attack was going to take place.

"Today's Le Monde article merely repeats what the U.S. government knew and reported before September 11 that al Qaeda was interested in airliner plots, especially hijackings. The article does not suggest that U.S. or foreign officials had advance knowledge of the details surrounding the September 11 plot. Had the details been known, the U.S. government would have acted on them," a spokesman for the CIA, George Little, said.


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IT is original reporting. I didnt get it from MSNBC....i got It from watching CNN. Please stop putting a source that it not where the writer got it from.

in the rules it says if heard on TV its original. I wrote it heard it on TV so it is original. Did u write the article? No! Dont tell me my sources please.

what?Thelilnewsdude 22:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:France knew of and told CIA about al-Qaeda hijack plans prior to 9/11

Revert
I reverted this because the CIA was handed the report...and it says so near the bottom of the article. DragonFire1024 05:02, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * that the info was shared with the US is an important part of the story and have therefore moved it higher up in the article - per inverted pyramid. –Doldrums(talk) 05:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok :) DragonFire1024 05:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Inaccuracies?

 * This article says Taliban and Chechen were organizing the plot, but Washington Post article says al-Qaeda was part of it, too.
 * Washington Post article describes the plot as "hijack an aircraft," while this article says "attack was going to involve U.S. jetliners"

Tomos 05:59, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Where exactly article says ANYTHING about any "Chechens"? Page 1, page 2 and page 3.

It says about "Uzbeks", "Uzbekistan" and "Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan". Is it like these early days of the American interventions, when the "Chechens, Arab and Pakistani" foreign fighters turned out to be Uzbeks, Arabs and Pakistanis?

http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lemonde.fr%2Fweb%2Farticle%2F0%2C1-0%402-3224%2C36-896448%4051-892780%2C0.html&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8 < here, an English version for you. --84.234.60.154 21:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Google translate is blocked for me by Le Monde's website, I am redirected to the front page. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Pierre-Antoine Lorenzi
who's he? –Doldrums(talk) 10:50, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

DragonFire1024
Please read the article. Use any automatic translation, if you can't speak English. Check out Chechnya (a region in Europen Caucasus) and Uzbekistan (a country in Central Asia) in Wikipedia, if you don't know the difference. --84.234.60.154 22:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Google translation:

Uzbek spies thus inform the French agents. At the time, the opposition of the fundamentalist Moslems to the mode pro-American of Tachkent federated in the Islamic Movement of Ouzbékistan, the MIO. A military faction of this party, taken along by certain Taher Youdachev, joined the camps of Afghanistan and lent allegiance to Usama Bin Laden, promising to him to export its Djihad in Central Asia. Military records and correspondences of the MIO, found in Afghan Al-Qaida camps, attest some.

Alain Chouet kept in memory this episode. He directed until October 2002 the Service of information of safety, the subdivision of the DGSE charged to follow the terrorist movements. According to him, the credibility of the Uzbek channel finds its origin in the alliances passed through the general Rachid Dostom, one of the principal Afghan chiefs of war, Uzbek ethnos group him also, and which fights the talibans then. To like its guards of the services of safety of close Ouzbékistan, Dostom infiltrated some of its men within the MIO, until in the structures of command of the Al-Qaida camps. Thus it informs his friends of Tachkent, by knowing that its information walks on then towards Washington, London or Paris.

Contrary to what one would think, Uzbeks are Uzbeks, not Chechens and not Eskimos. You can also click and learn more about Mr. Tahir. --84.234.60.154 22:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Do not remove sources and do not add information that is not sourced. That is what the sources say...I am sorry if you do not like that. DragonFire1024 22:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * "The information that Osama bin Laden’s group, working with Taliban militants and Chechen rebels, had been plotting the move was passed on to Bill Murray, head of the Central Intelligence Agency’s Paris bureau, Le Monde daily said.
 * "One document prepared in January 2001 was entitled "Plan to hijack an aircraft by Islamic radicals," and said the operation had been discussed in Kabul at the start of 2000 by al Qaeda, Taliban and Chechen militants.".
 * Thats what they say. Do not remove sources. DragonFire1024 22:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

The source is ONE - it's Le Monde. The other sources are mindlessly repeating the mistake of Reuters India without reading the original. Did YOU read the ORIGINAL article? It's above, translated. You can check and translate it yourself, too - http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3224,36-896448@51-892780,0.html Just do it! --84.234.60.154 22:38, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes I did...if the Post and the Daily Times messed up thats NOT my fault. Thats what they reported and thats what we reported. Talk to them if you have an issue with their reporting. I have no control over it. DragonFire1024 22:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

You are acting very strange. You don't believe Le Monde, but you believe what the others say "Le Monde daily said" (and they didn't read the article too, and are all repeating the same mistake made once, one after each other - and they call themselves journalists, who should check out their facts before writing anything?). Above, I even linked you to the Wikipedia articles about the nation, organisation and man from the article (because the English spelling is obviously different than the French). I hope you're not a pro journalist yourself. You should believe what you saw in the Le Monde with your very own eyes, not what the others are, in fact, lying about it. --84.234.60.154 22:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If you have a problemwith Reuters or the Post or the Daily Times then write to them. If they are misleading thats their fault not mine or Wikinews's fault. We have NO control over what reports say. We reports what the reports say. Again, I will not repeat my self anymore, tell them that they messed up. DragonFire1024 22:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and the French "Rachid Dostom" is the English Rashid Dostum. He is indeed ethnic Uzbek, of course (there are no Chechens in Afghanistan). --84.234.60.154 22:53, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Really? You don't have to be Afghan. to be in Afghanistan...Terrorists are terrorists and come from all over the world. DragonFire1024 22:55, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

And so, do you think Wikinews is about spreading every false information in the media, even when you checked and found out it's really false? I think not. The article should be about what Le Monde REALLY said. If they wrote "Le Monde said" it was Martians, you would write this too? Gen. Dostum - he's not a terrorist, he's "just" a treacherous warlord (even for Afghanistan - he betrayed everyone in the 1990s) and a notorious war criminal. And currently the chief of the Afghan National Army. (Ethnic Uzbeks are a large minority in Afghanistan, which borders Uzbekistan.) --84.234.60.154 22:59, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Mistakenly?
Its NOT a mistake...if it is then all the 100+ articles are wrong. DragonFire1024 10:43, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Seems like they're all cut & paste from Reuters since the wording is identical on many. Your sources mostly use the paragraph:
 * Le Monde printed a copy of part of the note. In early 2000 in Kabul, Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden met with Taliban leaders and armed groups from Chechnya and discussed the possibility of hijacking a plane after takeoff in Frankfurt, Germany, the note said, citing Uzbek intelligence.

which implies that Le Monde printed this. But the Le Monde article does not mention Chechens at all. Nyarlathotep 12:01, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Again whose fault is that? Thats what the SOURCES say. Find others that say other wise. Again I doubt Highly that 100 articles are incorrect. But whatever...you don't want to follow sources, then its not my problem. DragonFire1024 17:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * and when an apparent error is pointed out in our article, we say thank you nicely, check if there is an error and post a correction if necessary. pls remember that anyone who brings an error to our notice is doing us a big favor. if they are unfamiliar with how wikis work, lets work with them to address their concerns/fix the issue. remember WP:BITE. –Doldrums(talk) 19:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

looks to me the ( Google Translate version of the) Le Monde article does talk about Uzbek, not Chechen militants and we may need to issue a correction. have also sent an e-mail to Reuters asking about it. so far, Reuters doesn't look like it's issued a correction. let's see. –Doldrums(talk) 19:45, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Google translate no longer works on many news sources within the French speaking world. I was unable to translate the article in its entirety, but used my limited French and translation of quotes and other text sections to establish that Le Monde makes zero mention of Chechens.  There is the slim possibility that the printed version contained details not given in the online version, but I - sadly - suspect that one person's screwup (or bias) has spread through the entire MSM. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't usually use translation, so I don't know how qualities of different services compare. But Altavista's Babelfish is linkable and offers fr->en translation.

the Le Monde article (page1)

I agree that there seems to be a mistake in English media. The article speak of Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan and Tohir Yo‘ldosh. Tohir has some connection to Chechen rebels, but he is not representing or leading them as far as I (a novice) can tell.

I wonder if French& English speaking countries, such as Canada and Swiss report this differently.

Tomos 17:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I did a little search on this, and it seems French-language media are also reporting that Chechen was involved in it. Some French-language sources: Some English language sources presumably having familiarities with French-language media
 * AFP Apr 16, 2007 14:45 in la-Croix
 * AFP Apr 16, 2007 in France24
 * AFP Apr 16, 2007 in France 24
 * AP Paris Apr 16, 2007 in International Herald Tribune Europe
 * Journal Chretein

So why even the French-language media speak of Chechens?

I came to think this is not a mistake.

Le Monde article has the following quote from the DGSE report
 * "Selon les services ouzbeks de renseignement, le projet d'un détournement d'avion semble avoir été discuté en début d'année 2000 lors d'une réunion à Kaboul entre des représentants de l'organisation d'Oussama Ben Laden…"

It speaks of the early 2000 meeting between Osama and others. Who are others? In the Le Monde article, the quote is incomplete and it is not shown. It is possible that one of the parties was Chechen Rebels, as reported by others.

What about Uzbeks, you might wonder. But what Le Monde reports about Uzbek armed groups (IMU) was its cooperation with Osama in 2001, it seems to me.

AFP or some other news organization might have reported where Le Monde had not, and hence the reference to Chechens everywhere.

Another possibility I can imagine is that someone mistook Tchétchène with Tachkent (Chechen and Tashkent) in some complicated way so that it resulted in an error.

Tomos 18:32, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

 * In fact the French might be taking it from Reuters too, not reading Le monde for themselves. Of course Le Monde may also have shared their sources with Reuters or other news outlets.  However, one thing is absolutely clear:  the three leters "Tch" of the French word Tchétchène do not appear in the Le Monde article.  Therefore any articles which claim that this Le Monde article talks about Chechens is wrong.  I demonstrated above that many English langauge sources clearly state that Le Monde said Chechens.
 * Uzbek millitants are important here since they are the source of the information, but yes there is no real indication that the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan was interested in the attacks. We should maybe clear this up in our article.  Nyarlathotep 00:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

 * The source (according to Le Monde) were the Dostum's Afghan Uzbeks who had infiltrated the IMU ("up into the structure of command of the al-Qaeda camps"), and it was Dostum who then shared the intel with the Uzbek regime of Islam Karimov. The source wasn't the Movement but the double agents within it. --84.234.60.154 19:59, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

One plane or more?
Hi. I am just reiterating a point I previously made. It seems that the English sources suggest that the French intelligence was about a plot involving "an" airplane, whereas in this Wikinews article, it is reported as involving multiple "jetliners."

I am sorry if I sound nit-picking, but is it just me who see a difference of significance between a simple hijacking plot and plot involving multiple hijackings ?

Tomos 16:27, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

PS I'd already checked Washington Post saying it was one-airplane hijack, I have just checked the other cited source, Daily Times, to make sure I am not raising a stupid question. They says the same as the Washington Post. Tomos 16:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Please add this article to Category:9/11. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:17, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Jcart1534 05:35, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

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Israel marks Holocaust Memorial Day

April 17, 2007 Yom HaShoa, the Holocaust Memorial Day was marked in Israel yesterday.

In Israel, a two-minute siren brought life to a standstill at 10 a.m. as Israelis observed an annual moment of silence in remembrance of the victims of the Nazis and their collaborators. Pedestrians stood, buses and cars pulled over on streets.

The sirens were followed by services at the Knesset and Yad Vashem Holocaust Martyrs' and Heroes' Remembrance Authority. At the Knesset, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert read the names of the members of the Richter family, relatives of his wife Aliza who were killed in the Holocaust whilst Benjamin Netanyahu, opposition leader, read the names of his wife Sara's relatives. Vice Prime Minister, Shimon Peres spoke of losing his grandfather, whilst Social Affairs Minister Isaac Herzog spoke of his father's cousin who was caught trying to cross the French border and was sent to Auschwitz. Additionally, memorial services were held throughout the day at all schools and institutions.

Virginia Tech Shootings
The spirit of the day was further saddened late on in the day with the news that Professor Liviu Librescu, an Israeli Holocaust Survivor was killed in the Virginia Tech massacre. It was reported that he was murdered while holding off the gunman at his lecture hall entrance so his students could escape through the window.

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I'm not sure how this is a news article.--DCo1 10:01, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't follow. Looks like news to me. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:13, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Do we have an article when the French celebrate Bastille Day?--DCo1 14:23, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * we can, if somebody writes one when it happens. –Doldrums(talk) 14:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Date
Hello guys. I come from the German Wikinews and we are just wondering if the Holocaust Memorial Day might already have taken place (yesterday). Some sources tell us that this is the case. But as we have translated your nice article into german, we also copied the date. Are you sure that the Holocaust Memorial Day is to be hold today?? I would be grateful, if you answered my question. Tilmandralle 15:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Check the Haaretz source, it was yesterday. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you for your fast response. We will edit our article... ;) Tilmandralle 16:00, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


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Trial of Jose Padilla under way in Florida
The trial of Jose Padilla, a US citizen accused of assisting Islamist extremists and conspiracy to commit murder, is underway in Florida. Padilla denies the charges laid against him.

Allegations that Padilla was involved in a dirty bomb plot, made when he was arrested, will not form part of the trial. Two others, Adham Amin Hassoun and Kifah Wael Jayyousi also face charges alongside Padilla.

U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke has told prosecutors that they cannot refer to the September 11, 2001 attacks, to which Padilla is not linked in the charges framed, in a way that suggests guilt by association.

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North Korea may be shutting down nuclear reactor
Preparations for the closure of North Korea's main nuclear facility may have begun according to South Korean news reports.

Intelligence officials said that increasing activity at the nuclear sites indicate preparations for a reaction shutdown. Satellite images released by the Dong-a Ilbo newspaper and Yonhap news agency seem to indicate unusual activity at the Yongbyon facility, housing North Korea's main reactor.

Related news

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China mine explosion traps 33 underground
An explosion in a coal mine in Baofeng county, Henan province in China has trapped 33 miners underground.

Chinese state media reports that a second explosion hampered rescue attempts that had begun. Rescue efforts are also hampered as the mine owner and the mine manager fled the site, leaving rescuers with a lack of accurate data about the mine. Police have frozen the owner's bank accounts and are tracking him down.

In another incident, a coal mine pit in Zhuzhou city flooded, trapping twelve miners.

A third incident occurred in Heilongjiang province where at least two miners were trapped after an illegal coal mine collapsed, Xinhua said.

These incident come less than a year after the China pledged to improve mine safety. More than 4,700 coal miners died in accidents last year and the toll for the first three months of this year is 661.

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Excessive bacon bad for lungs, says academic study
A study conducted by Columbia University has found that an increased risk of lung disease could result from consumption of large amounts bacon and other cured meats. Researchers cited additives called nitrites as a possible cause.

The findings, published in the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine, indicate that Columbia team found an increased risk of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease in those that had consumed cured meats at least 14 times in a month.

The American Meat Institute said the findings used outdated assumptions about nitrite levels in cured meats.

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E-mail circulating UK Holocaust denial in schools is a hoax
According to a BBC report, various chain e-mails and rumours have been circulated on the internet indicating that the UK has ceased teaching details of the Holocaust to avoid upsetting religious groups who deny its occurrence.

The rumour appears to originate from reports about one school in the North of England where the Holocaust was avoided to avoid offending Muslim students who may be presented with a different picture of history both at home and in their place of worship.

A recent study into teaching indicated that many teachers were uncomfortable covering topics where students may have been exposed to an inaccurate historical account at home, however teaching the details of the Holocaust is required in England. Teaching of the topic is not mandatory in other parts of the UK.

A spokesperson for the UK government confirmed that teaching of the Holocaust is already compulsory in schools at Key Stage 3 (ages 11 to 14) and that it will remain so in the new KS3 curriculum from September 2008.

The e-mail is circulating as the European Union is considering criminalizing denying or trivialising the Holocaust.

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 * Snopes - Holocaust Teaching Ban

U.S. web broadcasters face steep royalty increases
A coalition of American web broadcasters, led by National Public Radio and including Yahoo! and AOL, has claimed that new royalty arrangements could prove 'fatal' to the industry. The decision to increase royalties, which is due to be enforcible on May 15, came from the Copyright Royalty Board.

"If these rates stand", claimed blogger Kurt Hanson, who writes on the SaveInternetRadio.org, "I believe we will see a virtual shutdown of all U.S. webcasting. That will be bad for listeners, webcasters, musicians, and the record industry alike."

John Simson, executive director of SoundExchange, the not-for-profit organization that collects the royalties, said "Our artists and labels look forward to working with the Internet Radio industry - large and small, commercial and non-commercial - so that together we can ensure it succeeds as a place where great music is available to music lovers of all genres."

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Trial in Italy begins for US soldier
The in abstentia trial of Mario Lozano, a United States soldier, began today in a courtroom inside Rome's maximum security prison Rebibbia in Italy. He stands accused in the death of Nicola Calipari, an Italian intelligence officer who was shot to death during the rescue of Giuliana Sgrena in 2005.

Washington has ruled out handing him over and his lawyer says his client could formally reject the Italian court's authority. Both the US and Italy have classified the shooting was an accident. Nevertheless, an Italian judge charged Lozano with murder and two counts of attempted murder of those in the car.

For journalist Giuliana Sgrena, the freed hostage, the trial shows that US troops can be held accountable for their actions, outside of US military jurisdiction. Sgrena was wounded in the shooting and is separately suing for damages.

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I've un-published again. There's no use keeping to change it back to publish: please address the concerns listed on the page instead. Expand it instead of simply publishing it.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

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Mayor of Nagasaki dies after being shot

April 17, 2007 On April 16 Itchō Itō, 61, mayor of Nagasaki City, was shot two times in the back. Mayor Itō died at 2:28 a.m. at the Nagasaki University Hospital.

Itō was shot by a man yesterday in front of his campaign office just across from the JR Nagasaki train station. One bullet hit his heart, sending him into cardiac arrest. The attack occurred around 7:50 p.m. local time in Nagasaki.

Authorities believe that organized crime is behind the shooting. Immediately after the shooting, police arrested on the crime scene Tetsuya Shiroo, 59, a deputy-leader of the underground organized crime unit, Suishin-kai, and senior member of Yamaguchi-gumi.

He reportedly had trouble with the city for failure to compensate for an accident that had occurred a few years ago in which his car had been damaged at a construction site operated by the city's public works department. Police say that during an interrogation Shiroo confessed to the shooting and his intent to kill Itō.

Itō is the fifth politician to be shot in Japan since World War II; a rare occurrence, because gun ownership is banned in Japan.

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NHL: Lightning strikes as Jersey falls behind in series

April 16, 2007

''Tampa Bay leads series 2-1. (Best of Seven)''

After losing the playoff opener, the Tampa Bay Lightning have won two straight, to take the series lead, two games to one. Both teams did very well both on the attack and in their own zone at the St. Pete Times Forum in Tampa, Florida Monday night.

Vincent Lecavalier would be the first to score midway through the first period, on a sharp angle to put the Lightning up 1-0. Johan Holmqvist would shutout the Devils though the entire first period but Martin Brodeur would return the favor as he would shutout the Lightning throughout the second period. The Devils did rebound from the 1-0 score as John Madden would score in the dying seconds of the second period to make the game 1-1. In the third period, as it was tied 1-1, Brad Richards would score very early on and put the Lightning up, yet again, at 2-1. Shortly after the Brad Richards goal, the Devils would counter with a goal of their own as Zach Parise scored to tie the game once more at 2-2. In the end Tampa Bay would be victorious as Vaclav Prospal scored the game winner late in the third.

Jersey goaltender Martin Brodeur needs to play better if he wants his team to advance, as he has given up a unusually high three goals in all three games of the series. The next game in the series is scheduled for Wednesday, April 18th, at 7:00 PM EST in Tampa Bay.

Three Stars of the Game

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2007 Cricket World Cup: England vs South Africa

April 17, 2007

South Africa beat England by 9 wickets in the Super 8 phase of the World Cup at the Kensington Oval, Bridgetown, Barbados. This confirms South Africa's place in one of the four Semi-Final places in the tournament, and eliminates both England and hosts West Indies.

After losing both opening batsmen in quick succession, with Pietersen falling soon after, England were looking to rebuild steadily with Strauss and Collingwood at the crease. After hitting their 50-partnership in 80 balls, both men fell one after another inside 2 overs.

Flintoff was quickly dispatched by a reverse-swinging delivery from Andrew Hall that went in between bat and body to take out the top of middle-stump. Two overs later and Nixon fell for 1 on the last ball of the 36th over, followed by Mahmood being bowled on the first delivery of Hall's next over leaving him on a hat-trick, which he narrowly missed achieving after a wild swing by Monty Panesar just missed the ball, but went on to fly in to wicket-keeper Boucher's hands.

Boucher caught Panesar off of the bowling of Nel following a poor shot, and Hall went on to bowl Anderson out to get his first ODI five-wicket haul (taking the wickets of Collingwood, Flintoff, Nixon, Mahmood and Anderson), the third of the competition (after fellow South Africans Charl Langeveldt's against Sri Lanka and Andre Nel's against Bangladesh), to finish with figures of 5-18 (10) - the best by a South African in a World Cup, beating Lance Klusener's 5-21 against Kenya in 1999. Andrew Strauss top scored for England with 46 and Bopara added precious runs at the tail end of England's innings with 27*, in a similar fashion to his 52 against Sri Lanka.

South Africa started batting in emphatic fashion: reaching 50 in just 5.4 overs: in contrast, England had taken 15.1 overs to reach 50; and while de Villiers was lucky not to be out on just 21 after being caught behind by Nixon off of the bowling of Anderson, (it was an edge so faint that the umpire, Steve Bucknor, couldn't hear it and couldn't give it), South Africa kept the foot on the gas and even after losing de Villiers on 42 they kept the run rate around 8, resulting in Smith getting 50 off of just 34 deliveries with only 9 dot balls, finishing on 85*. Kallis got to 17*, including getting his 9000th ODI run - a feat only 10 players have achieved.

Toss: England won, and elected to bat first.

Fall of wickets: 1-9 (Bell, 7.3 ov), 2-37 (Vaughan, 12.2 ov), 3-53 (Pietersen, 16.2 ov), 4-111 (Strauss, 32.4 ov), 5-115 (Collingwood, 33.5 ov), 6-119 (Flintoff, 35.1 ov), 7-121 (Nixon, 36.0 ov), 8-121 (Mahmood, 37.1 ov), 9-144 (Panesar, 44.3 ov), 10-154 (Anderson, 48.0 ov)

Fall of wickets: 1-85 (de Villiers, 9.5 ov)

Did not bat: Herschelle Gibbs, Ashwell Prince, Mark Boucher, Justin Kemp, Shaun Pollock, Andrew Hall, Andre Nel, Charl Langeveldt

England: I R Bell, M P Vaughan (capt), A J Strauss, K P Pietersen, P D Collingwood, A Flintoff, R S Bopara, P A Nixon (wkt), S I Mahmood, J M Anderson, M S Panesar South Africa: G C Smith (capt), A B de Villiers, J D Kallis, H H Gibbs, A G Prince, M V Boucher (wkt), J M Kemp, S M Pollock, A J Hall, A Nel, C K Langeveldt

Player of the match: A J Hall (South Africa)

Umpires: S A Bucknor (West Indies) and S J A Taufel (Australia) TV umpire: B F Bowden (New Zealand) Match referee: R S Madugalle (Sri Lanka) Reserve umpire: R E Koertzen (South Africa)


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User talk:Engouement

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dating articles
hi, welcome to wikinews. i noticed the article u created about the Pope's letter to the Iranian President. just wanted to let u know that wikinews articles are datelined the date they are published. so we don't publish "backdated" articles. if the incident is a li'l too old to merit an article with today's date, one option is to look for further developments and report that, using the older info as background. best, –Doldrums(talk) 13:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. I will make note of that for the future.--Engouement 13:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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Virginia Tech shooter identified, witness reports emerge

April 17, 2007

The shooter in the Virginia Tech university shootings has been identified as Cho Seung-Hui, a 23-year old South Korean national. He was studying English and lived on the university campus. Meanwhile, a list of confirmed deceased has been released.

The President of Virginia Tech, Charles Steger said in an interview that the "possibility exists" that more than one gunman was involved. "It appears that the second shooter was a resident in our dormitory... it appears he was an on-campus resident," Steger said. Ballistic reports confirm that the same gun was used in both instances of the campus shootings, but police could not confirm if the shooter was the same.

The shootings on Monday were in two separate locations, and occurred two hours apart. The first took place at 07:15 (12:15 UTC), at West Ambler Johnston Hall dormitory. Then, at about 09:15 (14:15 UTC), 30 people were killed in the second shooting, about half a mile (800 metres) from the first at the Norris Hall classroom building, on the same campus. Bodies were found in four classrooms and a stairwell, according to Virginia state police superintendent Col. Steve Flaherty.

Some students complained that they had received no warning from the university until an e-mail alert sent more than two hours after the first incident. The university has suspended classroom courses for one week, and Norris Hall will remain closed for the rest of the semester. University officials have expressed an interest in developing a text messaging alert system where persons can add their phone number to a list for notification in the event that incidents may warrant the use of caution or extra attention.

In a reaction to the school massacre, the gun control group Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence asks for "common-sense actions to prevent tragedies like this from continuing to occur". The New York Times ran an editorial with a similar message for gun control.

Alleged lover's quarrel at West Ambler Johnston Hall dormitory
A Virginia Tech student, Chen Chia-hao, told the Taiwanese station CTI TV that he believed the shooter in the West Ambler Johnston Hall was a Chinese student. The first victim was, according to Chen, his girlfriend. Chen said: "They had a big quarrel in the West Ambler Johnston Hall and he shot her. Then the RA (dormitory supervisor) came, and he shot the RA."

According to Chen, the gunman locked up 25 students who were taking a German class in the Norris Hall building. The man then shot himself in the head, making it difficult for him to be identified, Chen told CTI TV.

Witness reports from the Norris Hall classroom building
First-year student Erin Sheehan was one of the only 4 students coming out of the shooting in the German class unharmed. Erin explained how "(The gunman) peeked in twice, earlier in the lesson, like he was looking for someone, somebody, before he started shooting."

The gunman first shot German lecturer Christopher James Bishop in the head. Then, he fired some 30 shots in the class and went on. Trey Perkins and two other students decided to hold the heavy wooden classroom door shut with their feet.

Erin Sheehan explain how they heard "something like drilling in the walls", and how they closed the doors to prevent anyone from entering the classroom. Three times the gunman returned and fired in the door, while the students tried to keep him out. Erin describes how "He seemed very thorough about it, getting almost everyone down. I was trying to act dead. He left for about 30 seconds, came back in, did almost exactly the same thing." Trey Perkins explained how "Fortunately, we were lying down and weren't in front of the door."

In a nearby classroom, students decided to jump from the second floor through the window, and ran for safety to a nearby window.


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Talk:Virginia Tech shooter identified, witness reports emerge

the last paragraph -

"According to Chen, the gunman locked up 25 students who were taking a German class in the Norris Hall building. The Chinese man then shot himself in the head, making it difficult for him to be identified, according to the witness."

appears to be incomplete account of events and needs fixing. –Doldrums(talk) 14:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

HS photo?
There's a picture on http://collegemedia.com/ (temp server for VT's newspaper Collegiate Times) that has photo that is sourced from Homeland Security, perhaps we should use that instead? is the picture --TUFKAAP 02:46, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

 * It would be nice but see their copyright clause: Copyright Collegiate Times, 2007. The Collegiate Times, is a division of the Educational Media Company at Virginia Tech, which was established in 1903 by and for the students at Virginia Tech. Material published on collegiatetimes.com is the property thereof, and may not be reprinted without express written consent of the Collegiate Times.
 * --SVTCobra 02:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I guess you could e-mail for written consent. I'd say there's a fair chance they approve. --SVTCobra 02:55, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we could contact Homeland Security for a copy? --TUFKAAP 03:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Homeland Security? You have been away for a long time, haven't you? RIAA and MPAA run the world now. --SVTCobra 03:24, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * If its from the DHS, then it should be PD...I think. DragonFire1024 06:33, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Typo
editprotected 'occured' => 'occurred' Van der Hoorn (talk) 14:44, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

 * ✅ ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 23:34, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


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User talk:EleanorOfWales~enwikinews

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St. Edwards University, Texas evacuated due to bomb threat

April 17, 2007

in Austin has been evacuated after a non-specific bomb threat note was found by a staff member. Students are asked not to come on campus, and classes have been cancelled until 5 PM. This is according to a public relations officer for the school and the St. Edwards web site. The message on the website reads, St. Edward's Classes Cancelled Until 5.p.m. Due to a non-specific bomb threat, all day classes are cancelled. Classes will resume as schedule at 5 p.m. Please check your University email and/or University Web Site for further updates. Around noon police had completed an evacuation, secured the campus and begun searching buildings. As police completed the search of dormitory buildings, students were being allowed to return. University spokesperson, Mischelle Amador, indicated that the precautions taken were in no way related to or influenced by yesterday's Virginia Tech shootings.


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Comments:Wikinews:Briefs/April 17, 2007

Web broadcasters face 'fatal' royalties
Our artists and labels look forward to working with the Internet Radio industry - large and small, commercial and non-commercial - so that together we can ensure it succeeds as a place where great music is available to music lovers of all genres,

Translation:
 * We look forward to killing off anyone who doesn't whore themselves out to advertisers who dictate what bland crap they broadcast because some fuzzy focus group thinks that music of a certain type will appeal to their customers. Or you get subscription Internet radio... That'll go down like a lead balloon.

I despise what the management of the music industry stands for, near-perpetual copyright terms, gouging money left right and centre, claiming piracy is killing their business (stop producing crap), and then there's how they treat artists. You effectively get "lent" all the money that pays for the studio, and the producer, engineers etc. Yet you don't own the copyright on the recording - the label does. Then you see a tiny fraction of even the wholesale price of the finished product, and the money you were "lent" is taken out of it.

I'm sure ISPs will also be delighted at the prospect of Internet radio being killed off, save them loads on bandwidth costs. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:59, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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NHL: Sabres keep Islanders at bay to take series 2-1 series lead

April 16, 2007

''Buffalo leads series 2-1. (Best of Seven)''

The Buffalo Sabres defeated the New York Islanders Monday night to take a 2-1 lead in the best-of-seven series in the opening round of the NHL Playoffs. Despite being rattled by a puck to the face mask in the first, Buffalo goaltender Ryan Miller put up respectable numbers, saving 20 of 22 shots faced.

After a scoreless first period, Adam Mair, at 5:17, scored the first goal for the Sabres, taking a cross-ice pass from Chris Drury, beating Islanders goaltender Rick DiPietro on the stick side. Thomas Vanek would double the Sabres' lead, pushing the puck past DiPietro's glove side that was initially ruled no good, before being reviewed Trent Hunter would answer for the Islanders less than a minute and a half later, picking up a rebound off of Ryan Smyth's shot. Just over three minutes later, at 12:56 in the second period, with the Sabres on the power play, Daniel Briere would lead the shot barrage, finally beating DiPietro to score his first goal of the postseason. With eight seconds remaining in the second, Randy Robitaille would fake a shot from the left side before moving behind the cage, passing the puck to Ryan Smyth, who was parked in front of Buffalo netminder Ryan Miller. Smyth would score to narrow the Sabres' lead to one. However, the Sabres seized and kept control of the third period, outshooting the Islanders 17-2 over the final 20 minutes while protecting their one-goal lead.

Despite losing the game, the Islanders are still very much alive in the Eastern Conference Quarterfinals. They will try to knot the series up at two games apiece on Wednesday, when New York will host the Buffalo Sabres once again.

Three Stars of the Game

 * #1 = Daniel Briere, C, Buffalo Sabres - 1 Goal
 * #2 = Ryan Smyth, LW, New York Islanders - 1 Goal, 1 Assist
 * #3 = Henrik Tallinder, D, Buffalo Sabres - 1 Assist

Wikinews regarding this Series

 * Game 2 - NHL: Islanders steal one in Buffalo to even series at 1-1
 * Game 1 - NHL: Buffalo overwhelms Islanders in Playoff opener


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User talk:88.231.92.19

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Wikinews:Video Wikinews/2.0/Yap/Archive 5

Wikinews Video 2.0 Commercial/Promo on YouTube and Commons!!
Let the publicity start. I created this after I would say 3 hours maybe 5...but I screwed it up. Zachary managed to fix my mess and recover it. Here is the result in What I think is Pretty Damn good: Wikinews intro. Here is the downloadable version.

All the images are STILL images and were taken from commons and the city names were placed on them. This is one promo that shows a variety of locations where there are Wikinews Sites. DragonFire1024 09:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

wikiversity
I wonder if coordination with wikiversity (Filmmaking) would be mutually beneficial. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I would think so :) DragonFire1024 19:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Designs
I have updated the main Wikinews Video page to include my designs for the opener and news graphics. I hope you like them. A flash video has also been compiled, thanks to Symode09, using my designs. I have also updated the logo to resemble the Wikinews: Print Edition logo. Stickeylabel 03:57, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Third Promo video released
I have created and made the third promotional video for Wikinews Video.

Watch: Wikinews Promo Video 3

Download from Commons: DragonFire1024 04:54, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment this trailer has nothing from North America, South America, Middle East, mainland Asia or Africa. Lots of Europe plus Japan, Australia and New Zealand. --SVTCobra 19:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sort of like wikinews coverage [[image:smile.png]]. (lots of New Zealand, and Australia, and didly squat of anything else). Bawolff ☺☻
 * Again most of the countries represent languages spoken on Wikinews sites...or Wikinews sites in general. It was not meant as a POV...and I am actually just a little upset that it is being accused of being that way. DragonFire1024 01:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Not trying to hurt feelings. But if you are going for wiki-languages shouldn't Toronto and/or New York be in there. We are both from New York (state) and NYC is the biggest city in the biggest country of the English speaking world, which is the #1 wiki-language. --SVTCobra 23:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * NY was in the first promotional video. Sorry, I did forget Canada :) DragonFire1024 02:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

New Image
I have uploaded Image:Earth.gif which is just an example of what the end of the opening credits/theme will look like just before we start reporting or whatever. The colors are off on the lettering because a gif can only do 256 colors. A logo of a sort will be added later. DragonFire1024 08:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the lettering does look kind of weird, but otherwise its good. Acording to the wikipedia article on gif images there is a way arround the 256 colour issue, but It doesn't look very easy to do, or even possible with animation [unsure]. You should probably have this image under the gfdl, and link to Image:Rotating earth (large).gif (assuming this is based on that) to comply with the gfdl. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Audio
Right was going to get round to doing some new music mixs for this but i need links or copies of the tracks that are currently being used (ie on the newest tracks) and any for future because im loosing track of what each promo video is using. So if the people who have the tracks could list them here then i would appriciate it. Thanks --Mark Talk 10:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I personally dislike the modern rock/bass theme music that is current in the promos. I personally would like to see traditional theme music, similar to SKY News or BBC News, that portrays credibility and balance. However in response to your question, I am not sure who has the tracks. Stickeylabel 10:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Here is the link of the music we can use: . Any of those tracks are at our disposal to do with whatever we please...I also have 2 audio files of an opening theme song and the closing theme...if you e-mail me (mail is on userpage) I will reply with the files. The videos are just promos and are in no way reflecting ACTUAL theme music...I believe that the opening theme music that was on one of the Windows Live videos is at the bottom of the link. DragonFire1024 10:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We can also use audio here. DragonFire1024 19:42, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I personally would like to have a theme along the lines of a teletype printer type sound or something like the Eyewitness News theme (i.e. the tar sequence from Cool Hand Luke). Plus, it would be easier to create and sounds professional since it's a trademark noise of news programming. --TUFKAAP 21:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * How do we make it? And where do we get the music...I agree we need a theme song...brianmc has already got a few put together here. DragonFire1024 05:24, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Behold The Wikinews Player!
Notice how fast it loads (for a sluggish video), if you hover over the video, the controlls show up (you may have to click on it once to activate the video)

The video is off an australian comedy show... they poke a bit of fun at the americans... it is pretty funny

--Symode09 16:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * LINKY? Bawolff ☺☻ 17:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops here. :) DragonFire1024 17:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry! Thanks Dragonfire :P --Symode09 01:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

 * The player looks excellent, and believe me I have LOLLED on that video!!!--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:10, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Is that video public domain? or a copy-vio? (I know you didn't put on a wiki-domain, but you did put wikinews all over it.) --SVTCobra 20:02, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well its a (semi)private test, so it probably doesn't matter that much (if you want to get technical, the wikinews logo over therer is a breach of the wmf's copyright). Bawolff ☺☻ 20:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

 * For all the fretting the foundation is doing about image copyrights, I don't think that "semi-private" is rationale for an WN:EDP. --SVTCobra 20:17, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * For the java player, we should try to convince someone to apply the following css, to give it a similiar look of the player presented here:

body {background: url(http://members.iinet.com.au/~symode09/wikinewsbg.JPG) no-repeat;padding-left:170px;padding-top:140px}

Bawolff ☺☻ 20:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

all this yapping is getting me down
what is Yap? why does its talk page redirect to bad monkey? and why does this yap need a flag in addition to the flag on the WN video page? and a flag on the WC discussion about it? and a flagged poll over a player on yet another page? –Doldrums(talk) 17:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

 * also, how about publicizing this widely after we make a pilot? –Doldrums(talk) 17:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * So, how do we make major decisions? Publicity will obiously come with polls etc. If you haven't realised, this project deos involve a bit of humor... you usually don't inlist into a project, you don't get into a time machine when you want to find out what is happening in the future, with our gallery - the wow starts now is making a bit of fun of a major o/s's slogan. If you haven't come accross the word yap, look it up here and for the monkey, I'm sure you can work out, it is not too serious. Instead of complaining about what youdon'l like help tofix and improve things--Symode09 01:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Offering Help
If I could assist in anyway with this project I would really like to. Get back to me if you have any ideas. Thanks Ycanneh 21:25, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You might want to join the Wikinews-l mailing list (see above), and subscribe to our enlistment list here.  Thunderhead  ►  21:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Stories
The graphics are ready to be put together, what we need to do now, is begin writing the story and, getting journalists. Let's try to look at one story in much depth. Can we have some suddgestions for who could be a journo/newsreader (even family and friends, if you tell them what to say) and, what shory should we cover. --Symode09 08:41, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Upcoming French elections?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:12, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I think we need something a bit more worldwide (and hopefully able to commect to people's emotions) —Symode09 11:17, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well we could definintly use the French election as an event. We might also be able to cover the six-party talks with North Korea whenever they resume.  Thunderhead  ►  19:54, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well given the school shooting in WV, I think that we might want to do an in depth on that...it seems that WV Tech has bomb threats and at least one other shooting in the past DragonFire1024 02:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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I am going to need the full names (first and last) of the people that put physical contributions into Wikinews Video and those names of the people who will eventually be the anchor/news reader. Please provide them here or on my talk page. If you do not want your full name on Wikinews or any other Wiki, please e-mail me with your full name...(my e-mail is on my userpage in the blue accredited box at the top.) DragonFire1024 03:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * How about people that wanna do the PR?  Thunderhead  ►  00:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well they can also do that if they like :) DragonFire1024 02:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
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Ontario may adopt new voting system

April 17, 2007

The Canadian province of Ontario may use a new system to elect its Members of Provincial Parliament (MPP) starting in 2011. A binding referendum on the question is to occur during the general elections on October 10 this year.

The Citizens' Assembly on Electoral Reform recommended on May 15, 2007 that Ontario will switch to Mixed member proportional representation (MMPR).

Under MMPR, Ontario's 107-seat legislature would be replaced with one with 129 seats. Of these, 90 would be elected from ridings under the existing first past the post (FPTP) system. The remaining 39, however, would be "list members" (not associated with specific regions) publicly nominated in advance by parties and assigned so that each party's total representation was in proportion to its share of the popular vote. It will also ask Ontario voters on election day whether they want to vote for the party or vote for the candidate. If someone votes for the party, they are still voting for the candidate which keeps the current electorial system unchanged.

Proponents say the system will be fairer to minor parties. Critics say it would be too complicated for most voters to learn to use.

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