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14,500 job cuts announced by Hewlett-Packard

July 19, 2005

Today the Hewlett-Packard Co. has announced that 10% or 14,500 of its full-time staff will be cut over the course of the next six quarters. HP CEO Mark Hurd, who took office about three months ago, has decided to simplify HP's operations by combining sales and marketing directly into business units. The job cuts are expected to save HP US$1.9 billion annually. These cuts are all part of HP's new restructuring plan, the savings from which will primarily be used to “offset market forces”, in other words, to strengthen HP's competitiveness in the market.

The job cuts come after prolonged analyst speculation that HP would be announcing between 10,000 and 25,000 losses. Few losses are expected in the areas of Sales or Research & Development.

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The media in Ireland, where HP has over 4,000 employees across seven business units, has reacted cautiously to the announcement urging that more details should be awaited for before making any comments. The news however has made national headlines and workers are understandably anxious to find out more details.


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Remote Assistance service of Windows OS vulnerable to attack

July 19, 2005 Until a patch is issued, Microsoft recommends that users close or block TCP port 3389, the port opened when the Remote Assistance service of its Microsoft Windows operating system (OS) is enabled. The Remote Assistance feature is a service of the OS that allows Internet Technology administrators of corporate workgroups remote access to other desktops to perform maintenance and other configuration tasks from their own computer. It can also be used by on-line tech support sites. A support assistant can go into a user’s machine, if the service is enabled, and themself make changes directly to another person's computer to resolve an issue.

To initialize the remote assistance feature, the user of the helper computer must first make a request of the user of the target computer. Compliance must be granted by the user of the target machine, which then fully opens the communication port of the target machine to the helper computer. The operator of the helper computer then has control of target computer to make changes at will. The user of the target machine can watch in a separate window the actions of the helper, and either party to the session can end it at any time.

In a telephone conversation with a Microsoft representative Tuesday, it was learned that work to develop a security patch is underway, but when it will be available is unclear. It was cited that a patch must work consistently across multiple platform versions of the OS.

The vulnerability, thought at first to affect only Windows XP SP2, is now believed to affect all current Windows editions, including Windows 2000, Windows XP SP1, Windows XP Professional x64, Windows Server 2003, Windows Server 2003 SP1, and Windows Server x64.

The Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) is not enabled by default, however if the service is enabled, a Denial of Service attack could cause the OS to restart unexpectedly according to Microsoft, or experience buffer overflows according to Symantec. The RDP is enabled by default on Windows XP Media Center Edition.

Microsoft suggests users block TCP port 3389 (the port used by RDP) on their firewall, or disable Terminal Services or Remote Desktop if not required by the user. The remote desktop connections could also be secured using either Internet Protocol Security or a virtual private network connection until a patch is ready.

To disable Remote Assistance on a Windows XP Edition, the steps are:
 * 1) click 'Start', right-click 'My Computer', select 'Properties'
 * 2) select 'Remote' tab on top of the 'Systems Properties' window, clear checkbox that says "Allow Remote Assistance invitations to be sent from this computer."
 * 3) click 'Apply' button

The group, Internet Storm Center, detected spikes in scanning for port 3389 beginning July 6. Larger numbers of systems scanned were reported on July 13. Crackers may be scanning for vulnerable machines, the group said.

"It's a kernel vulnerability," said VP of engineering for Symantec Alfred Huger, "so it will be difficult to exploit reliably. But he [the original discoverer] found the vulnerability with a commonly-used tool, so if he can find it, so can others. I don't think it will turn it into a large-scale worm, but then, some kernel vulnerabilities have ended up as just that, like the Witty worm."


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South Dakota duck population gets help from rain

July 21, 2005

A wet late Spring season's increase in rainfall helped duck populations rebound in the northern Great Plains near the U.S.-Canadian border. A dry Winter and resulting low ground water levels threatened duck nesting grounds in the area.

Much to the relief of duck hunters, who feared a possible 2005 ban on duck hunting, the most-recent waterfowl survey released this week by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service showed duck populations in South Dakota on the rebound.

This contrasted to a May survey that showed fewer ducks and waterfowl nesting areas in the state with the population of breeding ducks numbering 1.6 million, down from 1.7 million in 2004. The same May survey indicated that duck habitats, specifically ponds, had declined more than 35 percent from the historical average.

However, late Spring rains reportedly improved wetland conditions and irrigated grasslands for grazing duck broods and re-nesting hens. The figures are used to set duck-hunting limits for the fall season, which begins in August.

"I have observed many duck broods across eastern South Dakota in July, and grassland cover looks great statewide," Spencer Vaa, a waterfowl biologist with the South Dakota Department of Game, Fish and Parks said in an Associated Press report.

Related links

 * United States Fish and Wildlife Service Waterfowl Population Survey
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Suspected 'mastermind' of London bombings no longer a suspect

July 19, 2005

The Egyptian chemist arrested in Cairo last week has no links with the London bombings, officials have said. The Egyptian interior ministry published a report which "made clear there was no link between Magdi Asdi el-Nashar and Al Qaeda or the bombings". Mr Nashar has still not been named a suspect by British police.

Just after his arrest, the Egyptian interior minister said that reports linking Mr Nashar to al-Qaeda were "groundless" and based on a hasty conclusion. Mr Nashar has always denied being part of the London bombings; however he is reported to have told investigators that he helped arrange the rental of a flat for one of the bombers, Hasib Hussain.

Mr Nashar has always maintained that he had intended to return to Leeds at the end of a holiday in Egypt, which began a week before the bombings.


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Plan Magazine sold for €300,000 to Commercial Media Group

June 19, 2005

Irish architecture magazine, Plan, has been sold for €300,000 to the Commercial Media Group. Commercial Media Group is the publisher of both Construction Industry Magazine, and Off-Site Construction Magazine.

Plan, which was founded 35 years ago, is published on a monthly basis and has a circulation of 3,500. Its readers generally work in the building industry and many are members of The Royal Institute of Architects of Ireland, The Institute of Designers in Ireland, and The Chartered Institute of Builders.


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New U.S. immigration bill proposes time-limit and employer scrutiny

July 20, 2005

United States Senate Majority Leader said it is unlikely that a new bill to reform immigration legislation will receive action by the legislative body this year. The bill, introduced yesterday by (R,) and  (R,), would require immigrant workers to apply from their native countries for a visa to remain in the states.

The number of illegal immigrants in the U.S. is estimated to be in the range of 10 to 12 million.

The bill is in contrast to a different measure by (D-) and  (R-AZ) submitted two months ago. That bill would create a visa category where temporary workers are not tied to any job in particular and would allow them to apply for permanent residence regardless of employment. The bill has republican co-sponsorship from and Jeff Flake, both from  where the porous US- border is an issue.

The Kennedy-McCain bill allows illegal aliens already in the U.S. to petition the government to remain. A position that Kyl in effect calls the equivalent of granting "amnesty". Kennedy answered that criticism by saying, "The mass deportation of illegal immigrant persons as contemplated by the Cornyn-Kyl bill is not a realistic solution, and won't solve the security and economic problems we face."

The Kyl-Cornyn bill proposal is an attempt to tie immigrant status to U.S. employment. The legislation would create a guest worker program that would match immigrant workers with jobs mostly not wanted by American citizens. An immigrant worker would be given five years to come into compliance with an employment order. It calls for 10,000 federal agents, at a cost in the range of 2 to 5 billion, to audit employers who hire undocumented workers. Companies that break a proposed new law to monitor undocumented immigrants would be subject to penalties.

The bill drew criticism from immigration groups which include two leading Hispanic organizations because of the "mandatory departure" requirement. Immigrants who wait five years before leaving the U.S. would pay annual fines totaling $5,000 each year. Or, after making a return trip to their native country, they can again apply from there for a temporary job in the U.S. They would work for two years in the U.S., return home for a year, and then reapply for two more two-year work cycle. The maximum would be six years in the United States. In their home country, they could also apply for U.S. immigrant programs, including the "green card" that grants permanent residency. Kyl said he believes businesses will not object because his plan would make verifying legal workers easier by reducing the documentation required. The basics of the plan include:

 * Requires immigrants to be registered, fingerprinted and checked against criminal and terrorist watch lists.

 * Allow immigrants two years under the a temporary-worker visa, after which they would have to return home for a year. Temporary-worker visas could be used three times for a maximum stay of six years total.

 * Illegal immigrants now in the U.S. register for a "mandatory departure" program that would give them time to leave voluntarily. They could re-enter through the temporary-worker program, but could not apply for permanent residence while in the U.S.

The bill also calls for replacing the practice currently in place in the U.S. of issuing paper Social Security cards with the issuance of a tamper-proof cards. The identification card is treated by most states as no form of personal identification at all. A birth certificate is considered a primary form of identification, along with driver's licenses, passports and other official state or other territory photo-identification cards. The bill proposes that social security cards should be "machine readable" and a primary form of identification.

A terrorism-driven drive to turn driver's licenses into a national ID card faces hurdles. Peter Costello, treasurer of Australia, said he will not support national ID cards unless there is convincing evidence it fights terrorism.


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Niger facing food shortages after drought

July 19, 2005

The Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations has warned that 2.5 million people living in the African country of Niger are facing food shortages. Of those, about 800,000 are children.

Supplies of the staple foods - such as millet - have been low, forcing prices up. Drought and plagues of locust devastated crops across the Sahel region of Africa, and in Niger the effects have been compounded by years of economic decline.

More than a third of the countries districts face "critical" or "extremely critical" situations. While rainfall in the last few weeks has improved, seeds are in short supply after the earlier droughts.

The FAO launched an appeal to the world community for $4m of aid to combat the situation. So far, the only contributor has been Sweden, who donated $650,000 of seeds and animal fodder, which is currently being distributed to make the most of the current rains.

It is said by Oxfam that the neighbouring countries of Mali and Mauritania are also affected putting the total number of people at risk close to 5 million.


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Talk:Suspected 'mastermind' of London bombings no longer a suspect

I'm really pleased someone covered this - I was only wondering what had become of this guy myself yesterday. Dan100 (Talk) 22:46, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Obviously I am bragging a bit here; but only to show that it never hurts to give my opinion some thought (if one wants to find the truth). Here is what I said on the discussion page of the original story[when it first broke]"Now, here is the problem I have with el-Nashar being identified as the mastermind of a band of "clean skins". The known and agreed upon facts are; 1. this man is smart 2. this man has been in Egypt for some time 3. he denied being connected to the bombers and everyone who knows him finds it hard to believe 4. a pile of explosive materials were found in his bathtub in London. These 4 facts do not compute for me. A;If he is smart he wouldn't leave or have left the explosive crap in his bathtub unless he wanted to get caught. B;If he wanted to get caught, why deny what he did? C;Since he was in Egypt for so long there would have been lots of time to plant explosive crap in his bathtub. D;If he was a terrorist, why would he be teaching at a madrasa school? Isn't that like wearing an "I'm a terrorist" button?" Paulrevere2005 12:14, 20 July 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:Report: invasion of Iraq provided boost for Al-Qaeda

It's called "Supporting the Enemy"..and it works great if you are in a family business of war profiteering.[][].Paulrevere2005 23:17, 19 July 2005 (UTC)


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Bush nominates John G. Roberts for U.S. Supreme Court

July 19, 2005

US President George W. Bush today announced Justice John G. Roberts Jr. as his pick to fill the Supreme Court void caused by the retirement of Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. Roberts is known as a strong conservative, but is nevertheless endorsed by many from both parties. At 50 years of age, if confirmed, he will be the youngest judge on the court, and is expected to be able to serve 30 years or more. He was appointed to the D.C. Court of Appeals in 2003 by the President.

Bush offered the nomination to Roberts during a phone call at 12:35 p.m. EDT today, with the intention to release the information to the public tonight, at a 9 p.m. EDT press conference. The Associated Press had already revealed the president's pick at 7:45 p.m. EDT. Critics have already begun to voice complaints, including issues with free speech and religious freedom, along with reproductive rights. Supporters see Roberts as a conservative who cut his teeth with Nixon and Reagan — just the kind of nominee they were hoping for.

In 1990, Roberts wrote a brief on Roe v. Wade, which stated, "The court's conclusion in Roe that there is a fundamental right to an abortion ... finds no support in the text, structure or history of the Constitution." Though, during his confirmation hearings for the appellate court in 2003, Roberts stated that "Roe v. Wade is the settled law of the land... There is nothing in my personal views that would prevent me from fully and faithfully applying that precedent."


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Does this article need to be merged with Judge John Roberts Bush's nominee for US Supreme Court ? - Borofkin 23:52, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

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Perhaps a silly question but I can't figure at all:
 * Bush offered the nomination to Roberts during a phone call at 12:35 P.M. today, with the intention to release the information to the public tonight, at a 9 P.M. press conference.

In which timezone, SEST perhaps, (possibly local time), but it is unclear to me. --Aphaia 01:02, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

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I fixed the hours to EDT and also converted the a.m./p.m. to AP style --CUWickliffe 01:46, 20 July 2005 (UTC)


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Rep. Barbara Lee calls for U.S. Congress probe into Iraq War planning

July 22, 2005

Congresswoman Barbara Lee (D-), co-chairwoman of the Out of Iraq Caucus and a member of the International Affairs Committee, along with 26 co-sponsors, proposed yesterday a Resolution of Inquiry in the House of Representatives which, if passed, will require the and the  to "transmit all information relating to communication with officials of the  between January 1, 2002, and October 16, 2002, relating to the policy of the United States with respect to Iraq."  The resolution, was submitted in the House of Representatives and referred to the. The resolution comes in response to questions that have been raised about the handling of pre-war intelligence by the, and the planning and execution of the. “We would like to see a member of Congress look into whether or not the president committed impeachable offenses,” said, a constitutional lawyer. “We’ve been having that discussion with a number of offices.”

Rep. (D-), Minority leader, recently met with John Bonifaz and representatives. But Conyers is reluctant to take such a bold step just yet. “My inclination at this time is not to do something like that,” Conyers said, although he noted that he wanted to press for an investigation in other ways, including sending committee investigators to.

Earlier this month, Rep. (D-) said at a forum held by Conyers “If you read the record of the writing of the, ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’ had a very particular meaning at the time of the drafting of the Constitution. It certainly didn’t mean lying about sex, but it might well mean lying to the Congress about a large public purpose such as Iraq.”, referring to Republican's filing of such a resolution in 1998 in an from office.

Rep. Barbara Lee's resolution of inquiry is a less-drastic parliamentary maneuver that would ask the administration to provide more information related to the claims in classified British memos that suggest that pre-war intelligence in Iraq was "fixed" in order to justify the invasion. The Resolution of Inquiry is a privileged resolution, which means that if it is not acted on in 14 legislative days after it is introduced, the member of Congress who introduced it is entitled to request that it be brought to the House floor for a vote. The committee may take the matter up right away, and could vote it down before the August recess. If they do not, they will be required to take it up by September 16th.

Text of the Resolution
RESOLUTION

Requesting the President and directing the Secretary of State to transmit to the House of Representatives not later than 14 days after the date of the adoption of this resolution all information in the possession of the President and the Secretary of State relating to communication with officials of the United Kingdom between January 1, 2002, and October 16, 2002, relating to the policy of the United States with respect to Iraq.

Resolved, That not later than 14 days after the date of the adoption of this resolution—

(1) the President is requested to transmit to the House of Representatives all documents, including telephone and electronic mail records, logs, calendars, minutes, and memos, in the possession of the President relating to communications with officials of the United Kingdom from January 1, 2002, to October 16, 2002, relating to the policy of the United States with respect to Iraq, including any discussions or communications between the President or other Administration officials and officials of the United Kingdom that occurred before the meeting on July 23, 2002, at 10 Downing Street in London, England, between Prime Minister Tony Blair of the United Kingdom, United Kingdom intelligence officer Richard Dearlove, and other national security officials of the Blair Administration; and

(2) the Secretary of State is directed to transmit to the House of Representatives all documents, including telephone and electronic mail records, logs, calendars, minutes, memos, and records of internal discussions, in the possession of the Secretary relating to communications with officials of the United Kingdom from January 1, 2002, to October 16, 2002, relating to the policy of the United States with respect to Iraq, including any discussions or communications between the Secretary of State or other officials of the Department of State and officials of the United Kingdom that occurred before the meeting on July 23, 2002, at 10 Downing Street in London, England, between Prime Minister Tony Blair of the United Kingdom, United Kingdom intelligence officer Richard Dearlove, and other national security officials of the Blair Administration.

Original co-sponsors

 * Rep. John Conyers
 * Rep. Tammy Baldwin
 * Rep. William Lacy Clay
 * Rep. Danny Davis
 * Rep. William Delahunt
 * Rep. Lane Evans
 * Rep. Sam Farr
 * Rep. Raúl M. Grijalva
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 * Rep. Jan Schakowsky
 * Rep. José E. Serrano
 * Rep. Pete Stark
 * Rep. Bennie Thompson
 * Rep. Diane Watson
 * Rep. Robert Wexler
 * Rep. Lynn Woolsey


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British Army soldiers to be court martialled for war crimes

July 20, 2005

Three British Army soldiers are to be court martialled for alleged war crimes in Iraq, United Kingdom Attorney General, Lord Goldsmith, announced yesterday in the House of Lords.

They are among eleven British soldiers charged with the ill treatment of two Iraqi civilians in separate incidents in September 2003. Seven, including the three accused of war crimes, have been charged with incidents that took place in September 2003. Four have been charged with the manslaughter of Ahmed Kareem in May 2003. They are alleged to have forced Mr Kareem — who was detained as a suspected looter — into the Shatt-al-Arab canal in Basra, where he subsequently drowned.

The three — Corporal Donald Payne, 34; Lance-Corporal Wayne Crowcroft, 21; and Private Darren Fallon, 22 — have been charged under the International Criminal Court Act 2001, and will be tried domestically, along with the other eight, rather than by the International Criminal Court at The Hague.

They are from the 1st Battalion, Queen's Lancashire Regiment (QLR). The regiment has been at the centre of previous accusations of abuse in Iraq. The Daily Mirror published in May 2004 photographs purporting to be of soldiers of the QLR abusing Iraqi prisoners. The photographs were later proven to have been fabricated, and the newspaper's editor, Piers Morgan, resigned.

Charges
Lance-Corporal Payne has been charged with manslaughter, inhuman treatment of persons, and perverting the course of justice. He is alleged to have killed Baha D'oud Salim Mousa, a 26-year-old hotel receptionist from Basra. Lance-Corporal Crowcroft and Private Fallon have also been charged with inhuman treatment of persons. Sergeant Kelvin Stacey, 28, also of the QLR, is alleged to have assaulted an Iraqi detainee and now faces a charge of actual bodily harm.

Colonel Jorge Mendonca, 41, the former commanding officer of the QLR; Major Michael Peebles, 34; and Warrant Officer Mark Davies, 36, both of the Intelligence Corps, have been charged with negligence of duty contrary to the Army Act 1955.

All four charged with the manslaughter of Ahmed Kareem (as well as the alleged beating of other detainees) are from the Foot Guards, the British Army's élite infantry of the Household Division. They are: Sergeant Carle Selman, 38, then of the Coldstream Guards (now with the Scots Guards); Guardsmen Martin McGing, 21, of the Irish Guards; Guardsman Joseph McCleary, 23, of the Irish Guards; and an unnamed 21-year-old lance-corporal was later disclosed to be that of James Stephen Cooke, also of the Irish Guards.

Response
The Secretary of State for Defence, John Reid, responded to the charges in a statement. In it, Mr Reid said, "Today the independent Army Prosecuting Authority has brought charges under British military law that will be heard in a British Court-Martial. Anyone accused is innocent until proved guilty and it is for the Courts Martial to consider the evidence in any case and reach a verdict."

In February, three British soldiers were jailed and dismissed from the army when they were found guilty of abusing Iraqis near Basra. The Chief of the General Staff, Sir Mike Jackson, condemned those convicted, and apologised to the victims and the people of Iraq.

Allowing the prosecution of British soldiers for war crimes has, however, been criticised by former chiefs of the defence staff. Just last week, some former chiefs in the House of Lords said that prosecutions can be demoralising for the British Armed Forces, and can place the lives of soldiers at risk if the fear of prosecution prevents them from opening fire.

In May 2005, Lord Boyce, who held the post as an Admiral during the Iraq War, said in an interview with the British newspaper The Observer that he did not believe he had complete immunity from the International Criminal Court.

In the interview, he said: "If my soldiers went to jail and I did, some other people would go with me."

After being asked whether Prime Minister Tony Blair and Lord Goldsmith would be with him if he was ever brought to account, Lord Boyce said: "Too bloody right!"

The honorary Colonel-of-the-Regiment, Brigadier Geoffrey Sheldon, has said in a statement: "From the moment that Mr Mousa lost his life while in our custody, the regiment has made clear that this was an isolated, tragic incident which should never have happened, and which I and every member of the Queen's Lancashire Regiment bitterly regrets."

The brigadier did, however, state he found it "particularly difficult" to understand why charges had been brought against the former CO of the QLR, saying that: "It was Colonel Jorge Mendonca, then the commanding officer, who, as soon as he learned of Mr Musa's death, initiated the formal inquiry which has now resulted in these charges being brought."

Colonel Mendonca was awarded the Distinguished Service Order (DSO) in Iraq, and was promoted to full colonel shortly afterwards. He is now on the Army's General Staff.


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Prayer does not help heart patients, study finds

July 20, 2005

A multi-center US study of 748 patients, who were to undergo treatment for coronary artery disease, has found that prayer by Christian, Muslim, Jewish, and Buddhist groups had no measurable effects on the medical health of the study subjects. The prayers were conducted by established congregations and were held away from the hospitals.

The study, published in the 16 July 2005 issue of The Lancet, found that the likelihood of an adverse cardiovascular event in hospital, re-admission or death within six months was unaffected by prayer.

None of the patients were told that they were prayed for, and none of the prayer groups knew who they prayed for. Nevertheless, 67% of the non-prayer group believed they were being prayed for - a potential placebo effect that may have hidden any small differences between the two groups.

The study also examined the effects of "music, imagery, and touch (MIT) therapy" before heart surgery. Practitioners qualified to Level 1 Healing Touch taught the patient relaxation techniques and played soothing music before applying 21 Healing Touch hand positions, over a 40 minute session.

There was no significant change in the combined chance of an adverse cardiovascular event in hospital, re-admission or death within six months. However, while the set of patients was evenly split, only 7 patients who received MIT therapy died, and 20 patients who did not receive it died. The result is not highly significant due to the low overall number of people who died.

A number of studies has recently examined the possible effects of prayer, with mixed results. While some religious groups have hailed studies which found positive results, skeptics have challenged the very notion of scientifically examining prayer , and have described past studies as flawed or even fraudulent.

"The mechanisms through which distant intercessory prayer might convey healing benefit are unknown", the authors of the study explain. One hypothesis they propose for such effects are "non-local features of consciousness based theoretically around observations in quantum physics."

The study was conducted by a team of 16 researchers at Duke Clinical Research Institute (DCRI), Duke University Medical Center, the Durham Veterans Affairs Medical Center (VAMC), and seven other academic medical institutions across the United States.


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Note that the BBC calls it a "Duke University Medical Center study"; this is incorrect, it's a multicenter study. I've also sent an e-mail inquiry to Bruce Flamm from and asked him for his comments on the matter.--Eloquence 05:46, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Confusing statistics
The study ... also examined the effects of [MIT therapy], but found no statistically significant effect, while "mortality at 6 months was lower with MIT therapy than with no MIT therapy ..." Does anybody else find that sentence contradictory? -- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 13:44, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * The article originally said "composite effect"; this is what the study says as well. My Lancet login doesn't seem to work anymore, so I can't give you an exact quote, but it referred to the "composite endpoint" vs. individual outcomes.--Eloquence 15:24, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

And what's "composite endpoint vs. individual outcomes" supposed to mean? This needs to be understandable to regular readers, not stat majors. :-P -- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 15:27, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * As the article says, the study examined "adverse cardiovascular events in hospital, re-admission or death within six months"; I believe the "composite endpoint" simply refers to a combined variable, whereas the individual variable of "death within six months" showed (small) differences under MIT therapy.--Eloquence 15:28, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Elo, saying stuff here is not really good enough. The bottom line is that "composite" has no meaning to laymen. If you want to include it, explain it in the article. PS use bugmenot to get into the Lancet. Dan100 (Talk) 16:21, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

NPOV?
I'm feeling that this is a jab at religion in its whole, I don't see anything that values any other opinion rather than praying won't help you.

A multi-center US study of 748 patients with coronary artery disease who were to undergo treatment has found that distant prayer by Christian, Muslim, Jewish, and Buddhist groups had no measurable effects on the medical health of the study subjects.

 * Where is the line between "distant" and "non-distant" prayer? Define better.  Also, include 'the study concluded', don't just say that there were no effects.

 * Non-distant prayer is prayer where the praying person is directly sitting nearby, and the prayed for person knows that they are being prayed for; this may result in a placebo effect.--Eloquence 15:27, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * See below on my opinion on that. --Mrmiscellanious 15:31, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Prayer would inherently mean "distant prayer." If you studied "nondistant prayer," you'd say the placebo effect associated to prayer, and perhaps control for it by actually having people pray for a control group.  Anyway, the first sentence of the article is not the place to sort out such subtleties of experiment design.

One limitation was that nearly 67% of the non-prayer group believed they were being prayed for - a potential placebo effect that may have hidden any small differences between the two groups.

 * This study is basing it on people who believe they are being prayed for? What if they're athiests, or other?  We need more information before this gets a NPOV rating.

 * I don't understand this argument. In any representative population in a Western / Christian country, you'll have people who believe they are being prayed for when undergoing surgery. What does it have to do with them being atheists?--Eloquence 15:27, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * How would an athiest be any comforted if someone told them they were praying for them? The whole study should be voided just on that figure.  In the article, it never states that the patients themselves were religious.  --Mrmiscellanious 15:31, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Nobody told the patients that someone was praying for them. Regardless, some of them believed it anyway.--Eloquence 15:36, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Can someone please fix these things in order to make this article better and NPOV? --Mrmiscellanious 15:06, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

MrM, the patients never knew if they were being prayed for or not - but 67% of them believed they were (don't ask me why they thought that). I'm not sure why being athesist or not should is important - does God only answer prayers for believers...? Dan100 (Talk) 16:25, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * So they weren't being prayed for, they were only thinking that people were praying for them? How does that conduct a respectable study at all? --Mrmiscellanious 18:06, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Nope. It's complicated :-). They were being prayed for without being told, but they were also asked whether they believed they were prayed for, to check for possible placebo influence.--Eloquence 23:39, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * This is a very non-scientific study. The effect of prayer on an individual is something that can not be measured.  There are other scientific anomalies that can contribute to a persons' health or lack thereof.  I request that this article be removed immediately.

POV/POV
A number of studies has recently examined the possible effects of prayer, with mixed results. While some religious groups have hailed studies which found positive results, skeptics have challenged the very notion of scientifically examining prayer [1], and have described past studies as flawed or even fraudulent. [2]

POV on part of author. Too biased against religion.

 * Not an actionable objection. Elaborate.--Eloquence 17:14, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Ok, first, I'm atheist, so this isn't coming from my religious background. My objection is that this paragraph illustrates how the article presents a point of view, acknowledges the opposition's POV, and then proves the opposition wrong with anecdotal evidence. I don't see a point to including the first two of the last three paragraphs.

A number of studies has recently examined the possible... "The mechanisms through which distant intercessory...
 * -- Ross Koepke Talk 17:34, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * It doesn't "prove the opposition wrong" - that is just your atheist POV speaking :-). The opposition would vehemently disagree with the criticism from skeptics. It's perfectly fine to provide context and background, though I would be happy to move this paragraph into a right-aligned "background" box.--Eloquence 17:35, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Would I be wrong to interpret that statement as an indication that both sides of the issue will think this article is POV? I'm not entirely sure that makes it NPOV... I dunno. I personally see this article as taking an atheists P.O.V of the study/events. Perhaps this is because we don't want to bring religious viewpoints into an article, which would thereby make it religious P.O.V. -- Ross Koepke Talk 17:40, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Added a link to the paragraph in question supporting the religious side, I feel it's more balanced now. I guess it was really the links that bothered me, not so much the content. -- Ross Koepke Talk 17:46, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * There may be a serious misunderstanding here as to what POV and NPOV mean. "POV" does not mean that the point of view of a particular group or person is included; we are very much in favor of including attributed opinions and beliefs in articles. It does mean that we do not present a particular opinion as our own, but attribute it, and, where possible, balance it with competing views. The resulting statement should be one which all sides have to concede is factually correct. Is it factually correct that believers have hailed positive results? Yes. Is it factually correct that skeptics have criticized them on various levels? Yes. It is also relevant background information. Hence, the resulting story is NPOV. Jimmy Wales has phrased it thusly: "Of course, 100% agreement is not possible; there are ideologues in the world who will not concede to any presentation other than a forceful statement of their own point of view. We can only seek a type of writing that is agreeable to essentially rational people who may differ on particular points."--Eloquence 17:46, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

"mortality at 6 months was lower with MIT therapy than with no MIT therapy (hazard ratio 0·35 (95% CI 0·15–0·82, p=0·016)." While the set of patients was evenly split, only 7 patients who received MIT therapy died, while 20 patients died who did not receive it. The result is not highly significant due to the low overall number of people who died.

-- Ross Koepke Talk 17:03, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) How many people total?
 * 2) I cant decipher "(hazard ratio 0·35 (95% CI 0·15–0·82, p=0·016)" and neither can anyone else (generalization).
 * 3) POV on part of study that we report as fact?

 * See the recently updated version.--Eloquence 17:14, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

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German president dissolves parliament; elections in September

July 21, 2005

German president Horst Köhler announced today that he has dissolved the Bundestag after a motion of confidence by chancellor Gerhard Schröder deliberately failed on July 1st. He set the 18th of September 2005 as the date for early elections to the Bundestag.

In a televised address Köhler stated that Germany is in a serious economic situation and that the country needs a stable government. He recalled the previous occasions when the Bundestag was dissolved and agreed with the chancellor that the loss of confidence was genuine and urged the citizens to vote.

The Speaker of the Bundestag, Wolfgang Thierse, welcomed the decision and urged the parties to conduct fair campaigns.

Chancellor Schröder also paid his respect to Köhler, calling his decision confident and again expressed that he intents to resume the good way on which Germany is heading under his leadership.

The Chair of the conservative Christian Democrats (CDU) and her party's candidate for chancellor, Angela Merkel, welcomed the call for early elections and wants to get Germany on the right track if her party gets to power in September.

The dissolving is the result of a long political muddle that began on May 22th when Schröder's Social Democrats (SPD) lost the most populous state of Germany, North Rhine-Westphalia, to the CDU, the biggest opposition party. Minutes after the early projections were in, SPD chair Franz Müntefering announced that his party would seek re-election in fall of 2005. However, the Basic Law of Germany does not permit the self-dissolving of the Bundestag. The only way to achieve early elections is when the chancellor loses a motion of confidence. All major parties, including the opposition, support the call for early election. Polls also indicate that 75% of the population support going to the ballots in September. However, some MP's, most notably Werner Schulz of SPD's coalition partner, The Greens, say that the procedure was unconstitutional because the loss of confidence was orchestrated. They announced that they will sue against the dissolving before the Constitutional Court of Germany.

Germany has been struggling with high unemployment for several years and the reforms Schröder introduced were criticized as being neo-liberalistic by unions and also by members of his own party.

Current polls see the CDU at 44%, while the SPD can only expect 27%. The liberal FDP, CDU's possible coalition partner, can expect 7%, The Greens 8% and the Party of the Left (formerly PDS) 11%.

The governing SPD-Green coalition is faced with an overwhelming opposition majority in the Bundesrat, the upper chamber, that is able to block most bills. Schröder claims that the CDU is engaging in a policy of blockade rendering him unable to make laws and implement policy changes while Angela Merkel, says that Schröder's government is simply incapable to take action.


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Press freedom groups condemn two-day radio station ban in Burundi

July 20, 2005

One of Burundi's only independent radio stations, Radio Publique Africain, has been taken off air for two days. Last week the country's National Communications Council (CNC) ordered the radio station to stop broadcasting indefinitely, claiming that it had insulted them, and that coverage of recent elections had been biased.

RPA director Alexis Sinduhije said that the claims were unjust, and that the station had given every political party 20 minutes airtime a week during the elections.

But he reluctantly agreed to a two-day ban after mediation by a group of professional journalists and private broadcasters between RPA and the CNC.

Earlier this year, Radio Publique Africain was suspended for two days after being accused of breaking the country's press laws, including "offending public morals", by reporting on the rape of an eight-year-old girl and "deforming" the words of a politician. RPA observed the ban and was allowed to restart broadcasting afterwards.

The ban has been condemned by the international press freedom organisation the Committee to Protect Journalists, who have called on the CNC to lift it "immediately and unconditionally"

A group of Burundian journalists overseas, the "Collectif des Professionnels des Médias de la Diaspora Burundaise" has also spoken out, in an open letter to the CNC, accusing it of being "a body of repression which uses disproportionate sanctions".

Burundi's recent democratic elections were the first since the 1993 assassination of President Melchior Ndadaye plunged the country into a vicious, ethnically-charged civil war.

"Press freedom has been historically related to the emergence of democracy", the letter continues. "It is essential that the media, like other instruments of good governance, is protected".

Radio Publique Africain was launched in early 2001, seeking to promote peace by hiring both Hutus and Tutsis, including ex-combatants, to work on the editorial team. The station's investigative reporting and grassroots approach to issues affecting ordinary Burundians quickly earned it the nickname "the People's Radio."

"We ask the political leaders to answer their concerns: Why are people kept in prison without trial? Why has their land been taken away? Exposing the truth in this way has brought Hutu and Tutsi communities together and made it harder for politicians to manipulate the public", said RPA director Alexis Sinduhije after receiving a press freedom award last year.

In October 2001 Sinduhije was arrested and beaten up after interviewing a South African peacekeeper against the wishes of the Burundian government. In February 2003 armed men broke into Sinduhije's house and murdered his security guard. In September of the same year Radio Publique Africain was taken off the air after broadcasting an interview with a rebel spokesperson. In a show of solidarity, other independent radio stations refused to broadcast any government news or statements until the ban on RPA was lifted.

Burundi's independent media has become increasingly vocal and vibrant in recent years. The development of the internet has seen the appearance of a number of independent Burundian news websites based overseas, outside the control of Burundi's government and the CNC. When the radio journalist Etienne Ndikuriyo was arrested without charge earlier this year, the Burundian online media helped mobilise international opinion, and he was released eight days later.


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Blair and Bush should be up on war crimes for bombing the hell out of almost defenseless cities of a country that never bothered Britain or the USA. Paulrevere2005 12:05, 20 July 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:Press freedom groups condemn two-day radio station ban in Burundi

Thanks for the comments, Dan. I'm sorry you felt that the piece fell short of the wikinews NPOV policy, which of course I support. I note your additions to the opening paragraphs, and I'm pleased that Wikinews is running this story. I do, however, feel that your use of the term "bias" is an exaggeration. I feel that I stated the relevant facts fairly and proportionately and I thought it might help if I outlined my reasoning on this issue.

Although a nominal "agreement" was made between the RPA and CNC, it's clear that RPA had no choice but to accept it. It therefore seems quite accurate to say, as I did, that the CNC took the station of the air.

I think that there's an issue of consistency here, and a danger of "unwitting bias" against countries like Burundi. Imagine if our own government decided to block Wikinews for two days, or take Radio 3 off the air (having originally tried to ban the media outlet indefinitely) on the basis that they believed some news coverage to have been biased. And imagine if this formed part of a consistent pattern where people linked to the outlet had been beaten up, arrested without charge and in some cases killed. I think that we'd say, as the CPJ and Reporters Sans Frontieres have often done in the case of RPA versus the Burundian government, that this was a clear violation of international norms on press freedom.

Banning a major radio station for any period of time is an extreme measure for any government to take. That for me is the real story here, and I've merely tried to report it as I would had it happened in my own country. If "bias", real or imagined, was a legitimate reason for applying such a ban then I'd venture to suggest that half of the British media and most of the internet would be facing a ban!

 * Hi there, I think this is a really good story. The NPOV edits work although I think you are right in your arguments. That first par doesn't read very clearly now, surely the ban happened before the agreement? I'd rather leave it to you both to agree something - Dan, I do think it might have become a bit 'too' NPOVd and may have put the balance too far the other way in that first section. PS Sign your posts with four tildes and then I'll know your name :) ClareWhite 13:34, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi Clare - thanks for those comments :0). I'm glad you like the article - as far as I can see Wikinews is the first English language news website to have featured the story. Burundi does tend to get a bit neglected! I'll have a think about the first paragraph again. I had to look up what a "tilde" was (still getting the hang of the workings of wiki!) but having discovered what they are I'll endeavour to use them in future...

Cheers! RichardW 80.43.49.57 13:50, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

change to first paragraphs

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"One of Burundi's only independent radio stations, Radio Publique Africain, went off-air for two days after an agreement was made with the country's National Communications Council (CNC). The CNC claimed to be unhappy with the station's coverage of Burundi's recent elections, alleging that it had been biased and that it insulted the Council.

The director of RPA said that the claims were unjust, and that the station had given every political party 20 minutes airtime a week during the elections.

The compromise ban was arrived at after mediation by a group of professional journalists and private broadcasters between RPA and the CNC."

I'd propose:

"One of Burundi's only independent radio stations, Radio Publique Africain, has been taken off air for two days. Last week the country's National Communications Council (CNC) ordered the radio station to stop broadcasting indefinitely, claiming that it had insulted them, and that coverage of recent elections had been biased.

RPA director Alexis Sinduhije said that the claims were unjust, and that the station had given every political party 20 minutes airtime a week during the elections.

But he reluctantly agreed to a two-day ban after mediation by a group of professional journalists and private broadcasters between RPA and the CNC." 80.43.49.57 06:51, 21 July 2005 (UTC)


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July 20, 2005 James Montgomery Doohan, the Canadian actor best known for playing the role of Star Trek's "Scotty" the engineer died Wednesday of pneumonia after a long battle with Alzheimer's disease. He was 85 years old.

Now, Doohan's family is hoping to beam him up to the "Final Frontier" that Scotty loved so dearly. The actor had told relatives he wanted his ashes blasted into outer space, as was done for "Star Trek" creator Gene Roddenberry. "He'll be there with his buddy, which is wonderful," said Doohan's agent and longtime friend, Steve Stevens.

At the time of his death, he was living in Redmond, Washington in the United States with his wife and their three young children.

Doohan was born in Vancouver and participated in World War II as a captain in the Royal Canadian Artillery. He lost the middle finger of his right hand at the Invasion of Juno Beach on D-Day, a bloody scene immortalized in the 1998 Steven Spielberg film Saving Private Ryan. Doohan was among the film's greatest supporters, thanking the director for not sanitizing the gore of the actual event.

He started his acting career with a radio appearance at a CBC show and went on to act in several character roles. Doohan had already made a name for himself in the entertainment business as a featured voice actor in Canadian and U.S. radio dramas and motion picture voice-overs due to his knack for picking up linguistically perfect accents. His ability to affect a near-perfect Scottish accent made him a natural for the role of Scotty, according to producers at the time.

When he auditioned for what would become the role of his life in 1966, Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry asked him which of the different accents Doohan mastered would best suit the role of Scotty. Doohan respond that he believed "all the world's best engineers have been Scottish". After the original Star Trek series had ended, Doohan found himself typecast and had difficulties getting other roles.

Doohan suffered from Parkinson's as well as Alzheimer's disease. In August last year he received a star on Hollywood's Walk of fame.

After DeForest Kelley, Doohan is the second actor of the original Star Trek cast to die.

He is survived by his wife Wende, with whom he had been married since 1975, and seven children.


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Should this be merged with James Doohan, Star Trek's 'Scotty' dies at 85? Lyellin 16:19, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

This page should be deleted, as it looks daft taking up a space on the headlines list. Goodgerster 16:56, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

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Should probably be merged with James Doohan, 'Scotty', dead Lyellin 16:19, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Some of this stuff is just too close for comfort to the CNN article listed in the sources. It's more or less directly paraphrased, though strangely some of it seems contradictory. Very sad about Jimmy Doohan. Hats off, folks. --Aciel 19:15, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I came up as a teenager watching Doohan. Never knew he was Canadian. The whole Star Trek series greatly benefited from his involvement. "Captain, Scotty here, are you all right?" I miss him. Edbrown05 22:55, 20 July 2005 (UTC)


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