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The monkeys have already been used for the commercial, its not like the creatures are enduring an ongoing torture. If the groups are so worried about animals, they should focus their efforts elsewhere.


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Brazilian astronomers propose new model of our galaxy

October 15, 2010

Brazilian astronomers have proposed a new model to explain the structure of our, the. The new model suggests that our galaxy may have one more than previously thought and that these arms are more straight than curved.

The astronomers, led by Jacques Lepine at the, used data from clouds of gas to develop their new proposed model.

In order to study the structure of the Milky Way, the astronomers studied created by  clouds, contrary to the common method of analyzing spectra from clouds of. This method was used in hopes of producing an accurate 'face-on' map of our galaxy.

The postulated extra arm, if indeed actual, will increase the number of known arms from two to three. Previously, in 2008, the number was changed from four to two. This new arm is estimated to be about 30,000 from the center of the Milky Way and is thought to have a "strong inward curvature".

The new model also suggests that our is in one of the straightest parts of an outer arm of our galaxy.


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They should be have a life time sentence in PRISON.


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not a dictionary. Your recent creations were not news, but just definitions.  — fetch · comms  02:52, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

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Tropical Storm Paula weakens to remnant low

October 15, 2010

, the eighteenth tropical cyclone of this year's, has weakened into a remnant low near the northern coast of Cuba, the (NHC) says. It had earlier made landfall in western Cuba.

The NHC, the warning center appointed by the to forecast and track tropical cyclones in the, reported at 9 am  (5 am local time) that "Paula has continued to weaken during the past several hours." Six hours later, the center issued its last warnings on the one-time Category Two hurricane, noting that "the center (of Paula) is no longer well-defined". According to the NHC, at 3 pm UTC (11 am EDT), the remnant low of Paula was located around 20 miles north of, in , Cuba.

One to two inches of rain is still expected to fall today through Saturday over central Cuba and the central Bahamas, the NHC added. NHC forecaster said in the center's last warning that Paula's remnants will "continue to move east-southeastward until dissipation in about 12 to 24 hours".

Paula had earlier affected Mexico's and Honduras, where up to eight inches of rain fell and 19 homes were damaged.

Paula was the sixteenth named tropical storm of the year. Earlier this year, hurricane expert Dr. Phil Klotzbach told Wikinews that he expected "this year will have 15 named storms, 8 hurricanes and 4 major hurricanes."


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Thread:Comments:Swedish man uses webcam to broadcast suicide live on internet/"I do not think they are taking the threats seriously. There is a terrible lack of empathy on these forums."/reply

Any such threat is serious. If a human suggests that he is going to kill himself, even in jest, something is wrong in his life. He should be helped out with his problems, not pushed to death. Hope, some of the readers alerted the police as soon as they understood it's serious. Unfortunately sad end.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_and_the_Internet


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Please see Sandbox. Use it for testing. Thank you! Gryllida 10:09, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

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User talk:Om2728

Critical Sanctions against Iran Impact the Antique Rug Market
Hi. If you believe an article is ready to be reviewed for publication, put the review tag on it. Don't add the publish tag to articles you've written yourself. publish is an internal tag that gets added automatically when an authorized reviewer publishes an article; it doesn't request publication (and it doesn't cause publication, either). --Pi zero (talk) 15:32, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

 * Hello. I've added this article of yours as awaiting for review. I suggest it must not be much lengthy... however, it looks good to me.Thanks --Sainsf :) (talk) 05:10, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

 * Hi. Unfortunately, upon review, the article as currently written is not about a current news event; see here.  --Pi zero (talk) 11:15, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Just my (unsolicited) 2 cents: This isn't a poorly-written article. Assuming good faith re: copyright.....it contains some valuable info. It's too long, though, for Wikinews...and there're some concerns with the timeliness of it. Take a closer look at tightening up the headline and focus punchy language on a current news event.Bddpaux (talk) 14:39, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

--InfantGorilla (talk) 16:26, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Bddpaux is wrong to say it is too long. We have many long articles at Wikinews.
 * Your latest edit did not address the serious concerns listed at Talk:Critical Sanctions against Iran Impact the Antique Rug Market. To stand a chance, you must not copy text from other websites, and you must focus on a recent event (at its oldest 3 days ago.)

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Talk:Brazilian astronomers propose new model of our galaxy

Removal and notice
I have three remarks concerning these measures. --Pi zero (talk) 13:21, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I approve of removal of the material. The fact in question is attribution of the quoted words, and there is actual evidence that that fact was incorrect (as opposed to mere lack of extant support from the sources, which in the absence of contradiction would be a very different circumstance).  The contradictory evidence is not limited to the current state of the CSM article:  I'm confident that the other source did not contain any quotes from the team, I'm pretty sure that all quotes from the team in the CSM article were from the paper, and the attributed words aren't in the paper.  It isn't just a question of "it should have been attributed to someone else" because in my judgment a quote in a news story is only justifiable when its presentation as a quote is part of the news (which I believe justifies quoting from the paper, in this article), and it's very rare for this to justify quoting one of the sources — I've seen it happen once, but it doesn't apply here.  Without that justification, the "quote" is essentially a copyvio, and so removal is the correct permanent remedy (as well as the correct immediate action in response to the discovery, of course).
 * With one small reservation, I approve of the wording of the notice. We have good reason to believe that the attribution was in fact incorrect.  However, the quote was not attributed to Lepine alone, but to Lepine and his team.
 * It is an interesting question how the removal of material relates to the past policy discussion on issuance of correction notices. The recommendation in that discussion was that correction notices should not be issued without first consulting the community, the intent being that people shouldn't feel free to unilaterally slap a retraction notice on any article they disagree with — but I think common sense dictates a different approach to a late action taken on an emergency basis.  It would seem that such an action is always a removal of material, and that a late removal material is always on an emergency basis.  Because the removal actually changes what is seen, surely some notice acknowledging that something has been removed should be added as soon as possible (simultaneously if that is feasible).  The community should definitely be consulted subsequently, as was done in this case.  It might be good to recommend restraint in initial wording of such an immediate notice of removal, so as to minimize the chance of having to pull back from the initial position — but I don't think it would be profitable to try to prescribe some sort of "temporary notice" wording, because that seems like instruction creep.

 * For completeness, [ these] are the measures upon which Pi zero passes comment.
 * Group authorship is usually a convenient fiction, so purely for reason of brevity I omitted "and his team" from the correction notice. Prompted by your comment, I revised it to say "the research team".
 * I don't recall that discussion (maybe it was tl;dr). For correction notices, unless what I am proposing will significantly harm a Wikinewsie and the evidence is arguable, I like to take the wiki way of "shoot first and ask questions later" hoping that the community will agree with my action (though it is kind of polite to mention such action at the water cooler, rather than rely on watchlists/recent changes, so apols for waiting 12 hours.)  An error, such as a suspected unfair taking, however unintentional, is an emergency in my opinion.  If there is good reason to start a debate I am quite happy with the occasional notice: "Text has been deleted/amended pending community discussion" but I don't want that to be the norm, as community discussions often lie dormant for weeks.  I think my view somewhat harmonises with Pi zero's comment.
 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:22, 20 October 2010 (UTC)


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It sounds to me like the animal rights groups are having a knee-jerk reaction. Their logic seems to be: in the past, some animals appearing in commercials have been abused; animals are appearing in this commercial; therefore animals are being abused. This logic is flawed. Any group adhering to this logic should be sent back to school.


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Nevada Republican opposes Angle for US Senate over 'extreme' anti-abortion position

October 15, 2010

An influential Nevada politician from the Republican Party has stated she opposes 's candidacy for United States in that state due to Angle's "extreme" stance against abortion, and will vote against the candidate in the upcoming general election in November. Sharron Angle is against abortion in all cases, including incidents of and.

is a former. She has served as a member of the, and as a state legislator. Wagner assisted in the formation of a 1990 voter-approved referendum safeguarding abortion rights in Nevada. Wagner characterized Sharron Angle's position against abortion as "extreme", but said she would not endorse the candidacy of Angle's major party opponent, United States Senate  Harry Reid. Sharron Angle was asked by the moderator Thursday in a debate with Reid if she would support any US federal tax revenue going towards funding for abortion; she responded with a curt, "No."

Angle's campaign did not respond to queries from the Associated Press about Wagner's statements. Sharron Angle has invited controversy in the past due to her views on. In an article about "Tea Party extremism" in Nevada, {{w|The Globe and Mail]] reported, "Ms. Angle has suggested pregnant rape victims turn 'a lemon situation into lemonade' instead of having an abortion." {{w|The Washington Post}} reported that Senator Harry Reid's first negative campaign advertisement about Angle criticized the candidate for, "... supporting a Scientology-backed prisoner rehabilitation program."


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Where the hell is *any* connection between this person and Scientology in the sources? Unpublishing. -  Amgine | t 19:06, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Cited in the Related news subsection. Please, undo the "unpublish". The article has been reviewed and sitting published for days already. Even if your claims were not inaccurate, "unpublishing" arbitrarily would not be the way to go about this. A correction would be. -- Cirt (talk) 19:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment from about use of Related news section: "related news is, essentially, for 'sourcing from ourselves'". -- Cirt (talk) 19:26, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

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-- Cirt (talk) 19:54, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * -- "Angle has come under fire since the Nevada Republican primaries for alleged ties to Scientology"
 * -- " She has backed a Scientology-based drug-rehab program"
 * "Sen. Harry Reid's (R-Nev.) first negative ad against Sharron Angle ... hitting the Republican over comments made this year about "phasing out" Social Security and supporting a Scientology-backed prisoner rehabilitation program."
 * -- "Angle's reported onetime support for "championing a program there that was developed by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard" that uses saunas and massages in prisons."
 * -- "Angle once suggested inmates enter a drug rehabilitation program devised by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard."
 * Removed most of these, kept The Washington Post. -- Cirt (talk) 20:30, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

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I have started a thread regarding the status of this article at WN:Water cooler/Policy. --Pi zero (talk) 14:42, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


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Women's rights
Directly relevant to this category, so added it. -- Cirt (talk) 22:26, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

 * It doesn't sit comfortably with me. It has the feel of saying women are always sex victims (and implying men are always sex attackers). That is feminist propaganda (not accusing you of purposefuly spouting such; it's simply how it comes accross). What I might be more sympathetic to is some cat that dealt with all gender equality/rights issues... One toughie is splitting our own political viewpoints from this. I detest feminism (to stick with it as an example) as hypocritical and a simple reversal of the perceived problem, rather than a solution; one could argue that it actually focuses on the largest facet of a problem and is therefore my criticisms are invalid. Even that targeted discussion gets complicated fast... Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:38, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You are not saying it is not directly relevant, just that other categories or topics are also relevant. The solution is therefore not to remove a certain category because you object to others not being included, but instead to go and add those others, as well. -- Cirt (talk) 22:40, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * As I recall, 95% of sex crimes against women are done by men. And 95% of sex crimes against men are... also done by men. Women as attackers aren't unheard of and shouldn't be ignored, but nearly all sex crimes are committed by men (though keep in mind that the vast majority of sex crimes against both men and women are believed to go unreported). Sex crimes against women are also far more common then sex crimes against men. So it has nothing to do with feminism or whatever, it's simply what the statistics say. Men are almost always the attackers, and women are almost always the victims. *shrugs* That's just the way it is. (As a side note it can be claimed that "men usually don't go to the police, so they don't get counted!" That statement is true, but unfortunately that same trend holds true for women. Most sex crimes against women are also unreported.) Gopher65talk 23:15, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * But, should we undermine that 5%? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:19, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Feel free to go ahead and add more categories. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 23:20, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Wikiquote
I observe there's also a Wikiquote page for Sexual harassment. With redlinks there for sexual abuse and sexual assault. If there were a Wikiquote page for sexual assault, I suppose it would list rape as a specific form of sexual assault (per en.wp), in which case we could connect to the entire set of Wikiquote pages by linking to sexual harassment; but since sexual assault is redlinked, that solution isn't available and we can't get both targets two-for-one. --Pi zero (talk) 18:37, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

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In any civilized, first world country, this would not be a debate. The United States, "god bless them", is a unique case. Perhaps we should be debating universal suffrage? Maybe stoning of women should be adopted?


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Very interesting points, thank you.


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Four miners trapped in Ecuador mine

October 15, 2010 According to a Government Official, four miners are trapped in an Ecuador mine located 250 miles (405 kilometers) southeast of the country's capital,. The miners have been trapped since 03:00 (08:00 UTC) local time.

According to the Under-Secretary of Mining Development, Jorge Espinoza, the men are trapped 500 feet (150 meters) below the surface. Rescuers are currently on the scene and they expect to reach the men within 24 hours.

According to a Government Official, the men are believed to be alive "because they were far enough away from the site of the collapse," however their condition is unknown and rescuers have not been able to make contact with them. It is estimated that there is five to six days of breathable air left in the mine.

The mine is suspected to have collapsed due to a build up of underground water which caused the mine's supports to buckle and collapse, blocking all exits.

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Self-righteous ass.


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I think more steps to make it viable to carry the child to term and to support adoption can be taken, but the ability to choose is important - especially when the situation has been forced upon a victim. Of course every alternative should be looked at. Sadly, many women lack a strong support structure of family and friends capable of helping them through pregnancy and child care. I know this isn't the only reason they might choose abortion but I think it's the most influential factor.


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I think that has some good ideas, in that - regardless of whatever the laws on abortion state - better support structures and education are a good thing.


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It seems that wishes to make the following changes to the way this template is used. Discuss? -- Cirt (talk) 02:44, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You may be seeing some potential in this template that I don't. I don't see how any reasonable changes to this template could fix the problems with the appearance of that category (nor other categories suffering from similar problems).  That's why I see an entirely separate template as the likely long-term solution.  --Pi zero (talk) 02:58, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay, well, perhaps feel free to create such a new template, and we can discuss that? :) -- Cirt (talk) 03:32, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I have, however, submitted for review changes to this template per Brian McNeil's suggestion — disputed, no publish, and while I was at it namespace=0 seemed appropriate. --Pi zero (talk) 04:00, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
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20 dead, seventeen trapped after Chinese coal mine explosion

October 16, 2010 An early morning coal mine explosion in Beijing, China left 20 miners dead and seventeen trapped inside. The blast occurred at approximately 06:00 am (22:00 ) local time in the province, about 430 miles (690 kilometers) south of the capital Beijing.

A spokesperson for the said that the cause of the blast and the depth of the trapped miners are unknown. He also confirmed that seventeen people were trapped instead of 30 as previously reported.

China's mining industry is one of the most dangerous in the world with thousands of deaths each year. Earlier this year 115 miners were rescued from a flooded in China. The group survived by eating, tree bark, paper and coal. 1,600 illegal Chinese coal mines have already been shut down this year in an attempt by regulators to improve safety standards. The number of fatalities in Chinese mines had fallen, but rose suddenly again earlier this year.


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Please add: 20 bányász meghalt, 17 bent rekedt a kínai bányarobbantásban. - Xbspiro (talk) 17:59, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ — Gopher65talk 23:17, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Correction
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Source-check: apparently, the explosion happened in Henan, not near the capital region.

On another note: the MSNBC article had been archived here:, I think we might add that to the source template. - Xbspiro (talk) 13:04, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

 * Additionally: both sources talk about 16 trapped miners, not 17. That number might have changed though as new information flowed in and got integrated into the articles. - Xbspiro (talk) 14:18, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Archiveurl added.

correction
 * Something like that? [24Cr][talk] 22:30, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Seems fine to me. - Xbspiro (talk) 23:09, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXs-qw_p8dc there are also two miners in a coal mine trapped for four days and the world and media is oblivious to it. Only WKBT.COM has reported the other two in Columbia. see above video.


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Nice template. However, the latest stories are too small, in my opinion: they are the easiest and most newsworthy way of navigating a category. I like to see them in the main body of the page, at the size of body text or larger, such as in Countrycategory. --InfantGorilla (talk) 10:13, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Two thoughts
Moved here in detail from the water cooler thread, leaving a summary there: --Pi zero (talk) 14:31, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Lose the encyclopedic overview. One sentence to identify the topic should suffice; leave the detail to Wikipedia, where they specialize in that.  In fact, a relatively fixed-form sentence provides stability and will probably suffice for a wide swath of categories.  (In Areacategory, which offers a lot of flexibility, I'm still learning about how to provide most flexibility with fewest parameters.)
 * You'll want flexibility to pick and choose which sister projects to provide links for, and what to link to at each. Hopefully, it'll only take one optional parameter per sister, default being Wikipedia and Commons using.

 * I agree on both counts. WP often does sister links simply to search pages, which is unacceptable. As for the overview; much like WP:NOTNEWS, we're WN:NOT an encyclopedia. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:40, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note the overview section is optional; and its goal is to provide some context to the readers without letting them go to the other place. I know we aren't an encyclopedia, but just for the context. As for the sister projects, what if I change the sisterprojects variable to produce what you want, and make the other projects (Wikibooks, Wikiversty, etc.) optional?. @InfantGorilla – Will fix that. --Diego Grez return fire 14:56, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * An overview is a distraction from what should be the most prominent feature of the category page: recent news.
 * I doubt the need for a separate parameter ; just use commons=category: and the like.  Have ,  ,  ,  ,  .  --Pi zero (talk) 18:20, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

 * The only real context that's needed is a sentence or two, usually. Any kind of depth is the job of The Other Place and - much as we resent parts of their community attempting pseudonews - we should not start to do pseudoenclyclopia(ism?). The WMF projects compliment each other well. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:23, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Apparently I have fixed the issues. See Category:Pichilemu. 'Overview' was shortened to two sentences, and the latest stories were moved to the main part of the category. --Diego Grez return fire 18:54, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I think there's just one key element missing, and then anything else will be fine tuning. What's missing is an articulated summary sentence. That's why you're still stuck on the idea of an "overview". With a properly articulated summary sentence, there's no reason for any overview because the summary sentence already tells the reader all they need to know to get oriented.

Your leading sentence is now just "This is the — category." Uninformative. That might be good enough for a topic category, by which I mean not a geocat and not a person-cat; but your example is a geocat. I really think a good summary sentence is needed for any geocat smaller than a country. That's why I put a great deal of careful thought into how Areacategory generates its summary sentence. I've been carefully planning for some time to add one more parameter to it, and I anticipate that that will be the last additional parameter ever needed for Areacategory; one could then generate a summary sentence such as
 * This is the category for the Chilean city of Pichilemu, the capital of Cardenal Caro Province in the O'Higgins Region of Chile.

Or some subset of those embellishments.

In fact, Areacategory's summary sentences are flexible enough that the template might just about work for people and topics, as well as for smaller geocats. Technically, there's just one stray word further down that might need an additional parameter, though I'm worried about the burden of unwieldy parameter names in an overly generic template. --Pi zero (talk) 20:16, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Check the category again :-) --Diego Grez return fire 21:43, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Seems we're down to smaller details. All the smaller things I can think of, at the moment:
 * Geocats often have two images — above the sister links, either a locator image or a scenic image; and below the sister links, optionally a flag, seal, emblem, or the like. E.g., Category:Karnataka.
 * I think the sister links should go above the external links, rather than below.
 * The documentation is lagging behind the template.
 * This is now such a general template that I wonder whether the name "topic cat" does it justice. I'm not sure what else to suggest, though.
 * --Pi zero (talk) 22:49, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I've fixed it ;) --Diego Grez return fire 13:19, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I've fixed it ;) --Diego Grez return fire 13:19, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Two other changes
Three changes I'd like to make, but thought I should ask about first: --Pi zero (talk) 19:53, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Eliminate ; instead, the code can just check for any of the associated image parameters.  (It isn't possible to do this with , because wikipedia and commons have defaults, so that sisterprojects is the only way to suppress them).
 * Eliminate .  Categories can simply use , and to link to a category, just say so.  (The default for  would then be Category: .)
 * Make independent of  .  Right now, there can't any external links unless there are sister-project links.

 * On second thought, I see that the defaults for wikipedia and commons aren't actually in place. Which makes the second change easier.  So now I'm tempted to just do some of it.  --Pi zero (talk) 00:50, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I gave into temptation and did all three. --Pi zero (talk) 02:05, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Good job. --Diego Grez return fire 03:49, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Handling of commons parameter
It's really confusing that removing the  parameter doesn't eliminate the sister link. I suggest a multi-step process to fix it: This would be yet another big task that can't be done all at once; we've got an awful lot of those already, and I've thought for some time we need a better way to keep track of them all. Obligatory xkcd link:   --Pi zero (talk) 12:48, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) jimmy the template to automatically populate a hidden category when the   parameter is omitted.
 * 2) add explicit   parameter to all of those, so the hidden category is empty.
 * 3) change the default for the parameter.
 * Why can't we just hit #3 straight away and be done with it? BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:00, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
 * We could do #1 and #3 simultaneously, and pick up #2 later. That'd be a time-saver.  --Pi zero (talk) 13:07, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

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This is to clear members from Category:Pages using invalid self-closed HTML tags. Thank you, Xaosflux (talk) 03:46, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
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 * That works too :D, thank you. Xaosflux (talk) 13:22, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

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Add support for alt text. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:09, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

 * I'm uncomfortable with calling it "alt", because there are multiple images supported by this template and this would apply specifically to just one of them. Following the same pattern as parameter , how about  ? --Pi zero (talk) 23:27, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

 * Perhaps  --SVTCobra 23:32, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you mean exactly but I'm fine with whatever. Do you mean the little icons next to our sister projects? Those can be  or omitted entirely as they are purely decorative. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:55, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

 * In addition to parameter, the template also has parameters  ,  ,  ,  ,  ,  , each of which when used specifies a  . --Pi zero (talk) 00:04, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

 * I like  because then all the fields adjunct to parameter   are prefixed by the name of what they're adjunct to, providing a general convention that could be followed if we ever wanted to provide an adjunct to some other field. --Pi zero (talk) 00:07, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

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to allow suppression of gallery display of images. See, eg, - File:Trump 2016 TIME POTY.jpg is allowed for fair use in an article, but isn't allowed to be shown in the category page itself.

Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:50, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

 * I'm not sure I follow what your concern is. Are you suggesting a fair-use image cannot legally be shown at the bottom of a category it belongs to — as the wiki software automatically does — because fair-use images can only be used on articles? --Pi zero (talk) 02:04, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * exactly - Fair use says "The use of non-free media outside of the main article namespace does not constitute fair use, and is not permitted.", meaning that it should not be shown. On enwiki, w:Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria specifies a similar restriction, and notes in the policy that the nogallery tag can be used to hide the display on category pages. --DannyS712 (talk) 02:09, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I see the Wikipedia page suggesting that galleries on categories have to be suppressed in order to avoid having a fair-use image appear on a page that isn't an article. That however sounds ludicrous to me.  By that logic, it should be a violation of fair-use policy for the image to appear on its own page in   space. The more central matter of fair-use images not being allowed anywhere on the site other than articles, I would feel a need to investigate in-depth.  (I suspect this restriction has been knowingly deviated from by some folks whose knowledge of such legal niceties I would generally expect to be quite solid; the implication of which is simply that the investigation ought to be in-depth.) If the needed restriction were really as dire as you're suggesting, I'm not sure why you're proposing to add markup whose default state is to allow galleries. --Pi zero (talk) 02:41, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Because not all categories have images that are nonfree, but you're right that it would probably be better to always include it --DannyS712 (talk) 02:44, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * That's the third of my three points. The first and second remain.  The second point definitely wants investigating (though where the time to do that is to be found, idk). --Pi zero (talk) 02:55, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't know what lawyer recommended that policy to the WMF, but it is not grounded in any case law about thumbnails. Indexing has been considered to be transformative enough for fair use. See: https://garson-law.com/thumbnail-images-infringement-or-fair-use/ --SVTCobra 03:14, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I don't see any credible grounds for suppressing galleries on categories due to some of the images being fair-use. --Pi zero (talk) 03:13, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

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Thread:Comments:Nevada Republican opposes Angle for US Senate over 'extreme' anti-abortion position/Should abortions be allowed in cases of rape and incest?/reply (6)

Thus proving that those who are extreme pro-life are only capable of making ad hominem attacks in response to a blunt criticism.


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The world isn't divided between conservative fundies and enlightened utopians; just because a significant portion of America society doesn't want to allow abortions doesn't imply they're all buddy-buddy with the Saudi Arabian government. Polarizing comments aren't conductive to discussion or mutual understanding. Nor, for that matter, are ad hominem comments.

That said, my opinion is that, yes, unconditionally, abortions should be allowed in cases of rape or incest (though obviously not in the third trimester). I don't believe an unborn, unconscious fetus has ethical priority over a woman's quality of life, especially not when she did not even have a choice about the sexual act to begin with, let alone the conception. I can understand the position that abortions should not be handed out unconditionally to anyone (though I disagree with it, at least within the first trimester), but I can't think of any reason to bar coerced conceptions from candidacy for an abortion - besides religious justifications, which ought to inform a person's, family's or spiritual community's own norms, not those of individuals outside the community.


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This is not an argument. If you don't allow it legally then it will happen illegally. Personally I don't like abortion at all. But I don't have the means to understand the circumstances connected to such situations. THere's alot more to a rape victim than just being rape, the shame for a start, the emotional torture, inflicting such a person with a child born from their attacker. I would say no still, but the world is not filled with people who have my mind. It is something people in this debate have a problem with: The minds of those affected don't matter, only some divine principle (usually a fake one). One would think that the US public would be a bit more adult.


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Reminds me more of american pundits who support the militia movement whilst condemning terrorists and muslims (whilst saying they are synonyms no less)


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Judge Beach, the model of a judge who watches developments just a -little- too closely.


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Plus a Chinese explosion. It seems that mining safety issues have become a forefront of world media. My only wish is to see casulaties of mining become a thing of the past.


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Apart from that last sentence this is a sensible evaluation. The last comment has its comedical merits though. Personally, I just want the use of any actor to be transparent.


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I hope those who trolled feel great shame or have some justice meted out on them. As he was a suicidal, I do not think plain reason was at the forefront of his mind.


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Thread:Comments:Nevada Republican opposes Angle for US Senate over 'extreme' anti-abortion position/Should abortions be allowed in cases of rape and incest?/reply (9)

Ah, but I think it's fair to say that the US has an above-average level of people with... strange opinions. Therefore, a comment that only in Amerika is such a debate possible in Western civilisation may hold true, even if we assume the the majority of US citizens are sensible people.

I'm willing to make similar comments about the UK, of which my country is a member, so I don't read the comment as such that all Amerikans are stupid or crazy, which seems to be how others are reading it.

Now I'm here... From an impact perspective (as it should be from a sentencing perspective) rape isn't even physical. It's psychological. If rape victims had forgotten about it by next week it would be a summary offence punishable on first conviction by a fine; though of course, many perpetrators would be locked up in mental institutions anyway.

Rape is a life-changing, usually life-ending event. I take the view that if a person is substantially changed from who they used to be, in a short time, then the previous personality can be said to have 'died' after a fashion. In any event, something that ruins a life can easily be compared to life-ending events, and I have argued previously that rape and murder should be roughly equal in terms of average sentence.

From this impact-based perspective, I think it is key that we allow maximum support and choice to victims. Abortions where required is a non-negotiable part of this, to me. If a woman does choose to carry a pregnancy through, then that also should be supported - full-time if needed. I dread to think of trying to convince people to fund that in the current economic conditions. However, I can't imagine most women would want to carry around their attacker's baby, nor give life to it. Viewing rape as a psychological thing, dragging it out from one single attack to a constant and daily reminder via pregnancy must be unendurable torture to many.


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US Army to court martial soldier over three Afghan murders

October 16, 2010

The United States has announced that Corporal Jeremy Morlock is to face a  on three charges of premeditated murder. Morlock is accused of killing Afghan civilians for sport; at least eleven other soldiers are caught up in the allegations.

The prosecution case is that Morlock colluded with Sergeant Calvin Gibbs to plot the deaths of Afghans. Gibbs is said to have planned the attacks which Morlock helped arrange by recruiting other soldiers to carry them out. The pair, as well as three others charged with murder, deny this. Gibbs's lawyer said his client's defence is that the Afghans were killed legitimately, while Morlock's said his client was present but did not cause any deaths. Preliminary hearings in the case were heard last month.

The five are accused of unprovoked grenade and gun attacks. Seven other soldiers are accused of conspiring to cover up the crimes by dismemberment of the corpses and collecting body parts. No other cases have yet been committed for trial, including that of Gibbs. All the soldiers are from the 5th Stryker brigade, which went to Afghanistan last year and has seen combat in Kandahar, where the alleged attacks occurred between January and May this year.

Morlock is also going to stand trial for assault, use of a controlled substance, attempting to block an investigation, conspiracy to murder, conspiracy to assault and "wrongfully photographing and possessing visual images of human casualties". The soldiers are accused of photographing their victims and keeping body parts as trophies, though the military has not yet commented on if bones they say the men took were in fact from civilian murder victims. Al Jazeera English reports that much media attention has focused on this detail.

The seven not charged with murder are also charged with assault and using hashish. The assault charge relates to the beating of a whistleblower. Morlock could have faced the death penalty on the premeditated murder charges, but the army has decided not to seek this sentence upon a conviction and instead the maximum sentence available is life without parole.

Officials have commented about concerns the case could have a negative impact on relations with the Afghan public, especially with regards to efforts to undermine Taliban support in Kandahar.


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First of all Abortion should not be a legal issue. God created humans to be reproductive and therefore it is a matter of religion. Liberals say they want separation of church and state, yet they have created an amalgam between church and state. God calls Murder a sin. no matter what the condition. and because the majority of people choose to live in sin. Humans are forced to live in an imperfect society. The women may not have a choice if she is raped or adult member of her family forces themselves on her. in both rape and incest is a ineffable crime committed against another human. However two wrongs have never made a right.To murder an Innocent Human to try to make it right is very wrong.I know people say that it is unverifiable tissue, and can't live outside the womb,Most babies can not survive with out some kind of care til the age of 4 years.Do we extend abortion to the age of 4 years old? God forbid! As for Sue Wagner. I think her views on abortion are very very extreme, any politician that believes in murder has very extreme views. America was founded on christian value, just because people say there is no God does not make it so. and why is it that nobody stands up for the unborn child in the case of rape and incest? they didn't have a say in this ineffable crime.


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Thank you for your religious extremism. Religion, thankfully, cannot be forced upon others.


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Personally, I am horrified by abortion. I do see it as the killing of an unborn child, and I think that attempts to exactly define when a fetus becomes a human being and is capable of experiencing suffering is a cold and dangerous mental exercise fraught with slippery slopes.

But I still support choice regarding abortion. I think it's a decision that requires tons of responsible introspection, and I wish that anyone who used it casually as a means of birth control would suffer some consequence (and they are out there, I have met them).

I support it on the same grounds of principle as self-defense. To have a child when unprepared is a devastating blow to one's livelihood. It can completely destroy an unprepared person's opportunities to build a future or indulge in whatever gives them joy in life.

If a person encounters this fate through carelessness, then they really shouldn't end the life that they've created. However, this is a matter of purely subjective judgement that a person can only make for themselves.

If a person encounters this fate by no fault of their own, then I have no expectation of them to simply resign to it if it's not what they want, just as I don't expect a kidnapped person to resign willingly to their captor's basement.


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Mathematician Benoît Mandelbrot dies aged 85

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, a French-American mathematician and pioneer of geometry, died in Cambridge, Massachusetts on Thursday. Mandelbrot, aged 85, died of, according to a family statement.

Mandelbrot was born to Lithuanian parents on November 20, 1924, in. Mandelbrot and his family, who were Jewish, fled persecution in 1936, moving to France. He later studied at Paris' and received a master's degree in aeronautics from the. In 1952, Mandelbrot went back to Paris for a doctorate in mathematics, and worked with at, New Jersey's  to earn a postdoctoral degree. He later described a series of complex shapes when studying the concept of roughness. Calling these shapes "fractals," he found that they were present in nature and applied his work to other fields, including finance, physics, and biology.

In a statement, French President Nicolas Sarkozy praised Mandelbrot, who had "a powerful, original mind that never shied away from innovation and battering preconceived ideas." Sarkozy said that his country "is proud to have received Benoît Mandelbrot and to have allowed him to benefit from the best education."

In 1958, Mandelbrot began working for for I.B.M. at the company's in, New York. In 1987, he began teaching at, later becoming Sterling Professor Emeritus of Mathematical Sciences. Mandelbrot received the in 1993 and the  in 2003, in addition to more than fifteen honorary degrees.

Of his own career, Mandelbrot once said, "If you take the beginning and the end, I have had a conventional career. But it was not a straight line between the beginning and the end. It was a very crooked line." He is survived by Aliette, his wife, Laurent and Didier, his sons, and three grandchildren.


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New and confused
Hi, I'm totally new here. I wrote up my first article, and its awaiting review now. How long does that usually take? Since news is time sensitive I'd assume it would happen fast, but its not happening fast. Did I miss something or do something wrong? Was I supposed to notify someone? ɳorɑfʈ Talk! 08:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes it should happen fast. Unfortunately there is a bit of a back log right now. Bawolff ☺☻ 10:50, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I added new info to keep it fresh. I hope someone reviews it soon. ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 07:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

 * Published. Copyediting is not my strong, but any other reviewer is welcome to do one. --Diego Grez return fire 16:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you!!! ɳorɑfʈ  Talk! 19:01, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Pichilemu lawsuit
Hi, someone please take a look at this. I need help writing an article, with a neutral point of view. It is not going to get published anytime soon though, it will be some kind of "in depth" article, to be published near January or February. Thanks for your help! Diego Grez return fire 01:56, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Briefs?
I've read a little bit here about briefs.....but I'm not sure I still understand what they are......so, what exactly is a brief?Bddpaux (talk) 21:01, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I am not sure which bit you misunderstood, so to kick off the conversation, examples are at Category:Wikinews Shorts. I don't know if someone wrote a consensus definition: my working one is simply an article that satisfies all the requirements except the 3 paragraph minimum. --InfantGorilla (talk) 21:37, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * ....well, that sorta helps. I think (from what little bit I could find here,) that technically, "briefs" are something a little bit different from Wikinews Shorts. .....I think a brief is a tiny nugget of info that others can use to help build up a story.Bddpaux (talk) 01:04, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

 * Don't touch briefs unless you've an excellent radio voice, and audio experience. They're a briefing - essentially a script summarising current news. Such can be generated by judicious editing of the ledes from a day or two's articles, recording such, then some slick audio editing. A close parallel would be a legal brief. --Brian McNeil / talk 02:34, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * That's good news, as I have both.Bddpaux (talk) 13:41, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

New Message alerts from LQT on threads I've not commented on
Hi. Does anyone here know of or have the code to stop LQT's "New Messages" doodad telling me I've got new messages on threads I've not even commented on? It's becoming an annoyance and heading towards being a royal pain in the butt to keep marking threads I have no interest in as being "read". It's almost like email spam! Your help welcomed. BarkingFish (talk) 22:28, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Help - expand - article - Wikileaks Releases Iraq War Logs
I reviewed and published this, as breaking. Please help expand it with sourced info. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 04:46, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Need copyedit
Please, someone copyedit this article... --Diego Grez return fire 03:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Cholera spreads to Port-au-Prince, five cases reported
I depublished this article earlier today, over concerns that the first two paragraphs were too close to one of the sources. The primary author has made some changes and wants to know how much is enough, and I consider myself neither experienced enough to give top-flight advice nor distanced enough to make such a call (and I'm time-limited). Could someone please render assistance?

I should warn that I used a depublishing technique that I hope might allow the article to return to its original position on the DPL when republished (but we'll see); a return to publication status would have to be brought about by hand (instructions on the hatnote), as EPR definitely wouldn't do it right. --Pi zero (talk) 21:01, 24 October 2010 (UTC)


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Utilizing images from wikipedia to wikinews
I wish to utilize images hosted in wikipedia to wikinews. like படிமம்:Thanjavur_Tower.jpg where படிமம்=File, but this is displayed only if Thanjavur_Tower.jpg is available in commons. this is for tamil WN. ta.wikinews

Any idea? pls help -- Mahir78 (talk) 12:44, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Download it from Wikipedia to your computer / phone / laptop. Then upload it to Wikimedia Commons, tagging it as GFDL.  I can't read Tamil, so I don't know the source and author information to do it myself.  Good luck!  --InfantGorilla (talk) 13:10, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your response. But I want the file be loaded with special tags like w:File:FileName.jpg, for articles we use Article name . Thanks -- Mahir78 (talk) 18:14, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

 * That simply isn't possible. The software can't do that. It could be made to do that, but I'd warn that where fair-use is concerned you'd have a tough time convincing the devs you'd be able to keep track of wether local use complied with policy or not. Much easier to upload a local copy. Plus, if Wikipedia decide to delete the image your article will be left without warning with redtext instead. Therefore, annoying though it is, I think you really are better just uploading the images directly to ta.wikinews. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:29, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Or upload to commons, as then everyone can use it :). (although just to clarify, the reasons this doesn't work is entirely social/political, from a technical perspective mediawiki can handle multiple shared repositories very easily). Bawolff ☺☻
 * Tamil Wikinews has local uploads disabled. --Diego Grez return fire 19:00, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Blood Red, your points are practical. I agree with that. Diego, thanks for reminding this. -- Mahir78 (talk) 19:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

 * I didn't know Tamil Wikinews had disabled local uploads. Maybe you could look at adopting a good fair use policy, and getting consensus to turn local uploads on? Then you couldput non-free images on local and free ones on Commons. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Its actually surprising how few wikinews have local uploads on - statistics. Only 3 projects have more than 50 local uploads. Most have only 1 upload, which is presumably the wikinews logo translated into that language. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:35, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Wow. That really does surprise me. They could at least make good use of logos. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:54, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Each Wikinews must create the necessary fair use and image policies and receive specific approval from the Board, an onerous process which has effectively prevented any Wikinews language from having uploads turned on since 2006. -  Amgine | t 17:11, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Some stats
A while ago somebody asked for stats about who published most articles (editcountist for reviewers). I made a little stats page on the toolserver - http://toolserver.org/~bawolff/en-wn-editor-stats.php (I also plan to include a most active this week section, but I want to double check thats allowed under the rules first). Bawolff ☺☻ 01:46, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Awesome Bawolff! Great work:). I can't believe that I've published less than 40 articles since the review template was implemented 0_0. Gopher65talk 03:48, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * btw, If anyone does not want their name to appear on the list, please add yourself to User:Bawolff/edit-stat-opt-out. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

DocumentCloud
How can we, to advantage, use DocumentCloud.org? -  Amgine | t 05:06, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

 * If it doesn't have options to restrict who sees the documents, we probably can't; we should host anything of any import that is to go public locally (at least, somewhere WMF). If it does have this ability, however, it might be more interesting. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 11:30, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * eww clouds. We shouldn't host confidential data on servers we don't own. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:21, 25 October 2010 (UTC)


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You may not believe in God! however according the word of God someday every person will kneel and bow to Jesus. and confess that he is Lord. if I am wrong I lose nothing. If you are wrong eternity is a long time.


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A God that punishes people for daring not to follow xyr and solve xyr insecurities is not a God I would worship in any event.


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NASCAR: Jamie McMurray wins 2010 Bank of America 500

October 17, 2010

driver, who qualified twenty-seventh, won the  held yesterday at  in , North Carolina, United States. This became his third win of the.

was the leader before the final, after which McMurray became the leader. Busch was unable to catch him. Following the race, McMurray became the first driver out of the to win in the first five races.

managed the third position in the closing laps of the race, after starting tenth on the grid. winner had a couple problems late in the race, which prompted him to a twenty-third place finish.

, from the team, clinched the fourth position, after leading one laps during the race. followed Hamlin in fifth, while could only manage sixth.

,, , and rounded out the top ten finishers in the race. , another driver in the Chase, finished thirtieth.

Johnson maintained the Drivers' championship lead with 5,843 points, forty-one points ahead of Denny Hamlin. Manufacturers' сhampionship standings is lead by Chevrolet with 230, 45 points ahead of Toyota and 85 ahead of Ford.


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Great mathematician, great artist.


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Greek film director Yannis Dalianides dies at age 87

October 17, 2010

, a Greek who worked on over 60 movies, has died at the age of 87. Dalianides died after spending a month in hospital. He was known as the "godfather" of the Greek musical and the "Gentle Knight of Popular Cinema".

Born in 1923, Dalianides was placed in a children's home until he was adopted. He made his first appearance in children's theatre at the age of 10. He studied at the Drama School of the Conservatory, before moving to  and studying dance. Dalianides tried choreography before turning to cinema.

After appearing as an actor he directed his first film in 1959, titled, Mousitsa (The Temptress). He continued to have success with films such as Some Like It Cold, Downhill, and Training Old Man Yorgis. From 1961 to 1977, Dalianides worked exclusively for the Fino's Film Company. Dalianides is credited with the introduction of the musical into Greece but preferred the term "musical comedy".

Dalianides worked into his seventies. His last project was Mikres Amarties, a television series made in 1999. Dalianides funeral will take place on Monday; he will be buried at.


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He supposedly used to write on dog-eared sheets because there wasn't any.


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Teenager disappears in Pichilemu, Chile

October 17, 2010 Daisy Yáñez, a 17-year-old from El Huique, near Santa Cruz, Chile disappeared on Saturday morning.

Yáñez left a letter to her parents saying that she was "going to end her life in Pichilemu," located more than from El Huique. Her parents then went to the capital and filed a complaint for alleged misfortune with the.

The girl's clothes, a backpack, a cellphone and her documents were found in "the grotto of the Virgin" ("la Gruta de la Virgen"), near the Las Terrazas beach in Pichilemu.

,, (Public Safety Agency), and  personnel are searching Pichilemu's Infiernillo and Las Terrazas beaches for her body.

Yañez was suffering from depression due to family problems. "It all was sudden, there were problems in our family and she left the letter yesterday. We are very distressed," one of her parents told Wikinews on Saturday night.

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I went to the Las Terrazas Beach for a bike ride a while, when I saw there were lots of policemen and other agencies' staff. There were Yáñez's parents, and I asked them what was going on. They responded (almost) the same that appears in the article, and that it happened suddenly. They didn't want to give out their names, though. --Diego Grez return fire 14:04, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


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