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Talk:Rapper Kanye West denounces Bush response, American media at hurricane relief telethon

September 2005
You've just gotta love FOX News' coverage of this: "The show, simulcast from New York on NBC, MSNBC, CNBC and Pax, was aired live to the East Coast, enabling the Grammy-winning rapper's outburst to go out uncensored." That pretty much expresses their editorial opinion - anyone expressing views contrary to public opinion on a public broadcast ought to be censored. - McCart42 (talk) 14:43:29, 2005-09-03 (UTC)

 * My mistake - that text was actually AP text. Still, I'm annoyed at their wording.  Kanye had a right to speak his mind - granted, it isn't what the show's producers would have liked to be associated with their image, but they gave him the mic and they shouldn't require that he just be a talking head. - McCart42 (talk) 14:51:38, 2005-09-03 (UTC)

 * Meh. I'm still waiting for viable criticism about Fox News - so far, it's been nothing but the redundant sayings around the 'net.  But anyways, this is terrible for someone to say.  It quite possibly turned off many people from donating funds to the relief because of his comments.  --Mrmiscellanious 15:35, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

I've added a commented out related news link to a story for the aggregation of inflamatory comments. Someone should uncomment that link when that story is switched to published. - Nyarlathotep 15:53, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

WIKINEWS, WHERE ARE YOU?
Where the hell are you? Every other media org is covering how incredibly late the Federal govt.'s response was to this disaster. But not a peep out of WIKINEWS. By now, EVEN Bush has admitted the response was inadequate. WIKINEWS seems to be very late in the game on things like this. I'm very dismayed in it's approach here with a headline that looked like it came striaght out of the onion or the classic '1984' novel.

I have to wonder if there is a lot of conservatives here who rabidly delete/edit factual news and headlines and hide behind a bullsh|t NPOV to promote their agenda here?
 * Wait, so you say the headline for the Dance party article was too extreme? Dance party broken up by police in Utah, USA?  That sounds very toned-down for the content of the article myself.  -- User:NGerda 21:29, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

 * I think you completely misunderstood me. It's sounds like a non-event headline that authorities would love to use because it hides the event through obscurity.  Who cares about a "Dance party broken up by police"?  The REALITY is it was a "1000+ concert broken up by paramilitary-style police forces".  NGerda, if you haven't already please look into reading the book '1984' and I think you'll better understand where I'm coming from. -Cowicide 68.3.52.158
 * I did read 1984, and I do see the parallels. You said that the headline looked like it was out of The Onion, and I thought The Onion overstated things a lot.  So you see my confusion, hewever, we're beyond that now ;) -- User:NGerda 23:28, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

Spelling Error in Article Title
His name is "Kanye West" not "Kayne West". --213.105.224.18 21:39, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * You can fix it just as anyone else can. -- User:NGerda 23:29, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

Kanye West said he is going to donate
He stated he was going to call up his business manager to find out what the maximum amount of money he can donate is, it should be included in this article, it happened only minutes before his "George Bush doesnt care about black people" comment.

New Orleans
The negro West went went way over the line...most of the people stuck in New Orleans aren't worth saving, but we are saving them anyway. The criminals (negroes) stayed so they could steal from the people (negroes) who were smart enough to try and get out. The ones shooting at the relief effort are negroes...shoot back and leave 'em for dead...they contribute nothing to society anyway. Any negro worth a damn tries to get educated, tries to better themselves, gets a job, is insulted by welfare, seeks respect, and won't stop trying. The rest of the negroes who bitch all the time, live off of welfare, and blame the government for all their problems are a waste of time and money and a drain on the human race...they need to expire in accordance with the balance of nature. Be a nigger if you want to...you will get what you earn.... (unsigned comment by 69.173.47.167)
 * And how do your comments not go 'over the line'? (unsigned comment by 69.23.220.138)
 * Huh? Ardonik.talk(*) 05:29, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * You gotta love reverse-psychology--82.141.56.163 12:10, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Don't feed the troll. lol. --Yarvin 21:59, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, we all knew FOX news was a bag of bully-jock-sadist-Prom King propoganda. They openly advocate censorship now. Who can be surprised? - Silvio Strage
 * Oh? Link? --Mrmiscellanious 19:42, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Dead video link
Please change the first video link to Google served link:. The old one is dead.

Add a link to the relief telethon article
Can anyone add a link to the relief telethon, it is A Concert for Hurricane Relief

Categories
edit protected Please add this article to Category:MSNBC. Thank you. Green Giant (talk) 13:00, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 14:19, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


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Resolution of Inquiry into pre-Iraq war U.S.-U.K. correspondance fails by one vote

September 16, 2005

The voted Wednesday on a Resolution of Inquiry that would have required the White House and  to "transmit all information relating to communication with officials of the United Kingdom between January 1, 2002, and October 16, 2002, relating to the policy of the United States with respect to Iraq." The resolution comes in response to questions that have been raised by senior intelligence officials and information revealed in leaked U.K. documents such as the, regarding the handling of pre-war intelligence by the Bush administration, and the planning and execution of the Iraq War.

Originally proposed by Congresswoman Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), the Resolution of Inquiry had 83 co-sponsors at the time of voting, including one Republican member of the International Relations Committee,, who was the only Republican voting in favor of the resolution.

YES PRESENT  NO Dem     20     0      0 Rep     1     1     22 TOTAL  21     1     22

Some members of the committee from each party were absent.

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Tempers flare over New Orleans tragedy

September 4, 2005

The handling of the devastation left by Hurricane Katrina, considered by many to be inadequate, has prompted scathing criticism of American politicians. President Bush was criticized for verbally "pandering" to public opinion, while little is done about the tragedy. In a WWL radio interview, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin called for a "moratorium on press conferences" and said, "[The government is] feeding the public a line of bull, and they are spinning, and people are dying." The mayor has since apologised for these remarks. However, the mayor did not address his own alleged failure to evacuate his citizens when he reportedly left hundreds of city-controlled buses idle.

Malik Rahim, a recent Green Party candidate for New Orleans City Council, describes the poor organization as criminal, and called for his party to come help when the federal government would permit it. Grammy award-winning rapper Kanye West created controversy when he said "George Bush doesn't care about black people" and that "America is set up to help the poor, the black people, the less well-off as slow as possible" in a telethon for victims of Hurricane Katrina.

Onsite television news reporters have also levied very harsh criticism against the politicians whom they were interviewing. Anderson Cooper (CNN) took Sen. Mary Landrieu (D., Louisiana) to task for her detachment (WMV, trancsript). Andrea Mitchell (MSNBC), Bill O'Reilly (FOX), Geraldo Rivera (FOX), Scarborough (MSNBC), Shepard Smith (FOX), Robert Siegel (NPR), and Paula Zahn (CNN) have also harshly criticized their interviewees (WMV). One broadcaster bitterly exclaimed "The only difference between the chaos of New Orleans and a Third World disaster operation, was that a foreign dictator would have responded better."

In a press release issued September 3rd, 2005, Democratic Senator Mary L. Landrieu of Louisiana claims that President Bush staged a photo opportunity by having rescue equipment quickly moved into the background during the event. Senator Landrieu claims the equipment was dispersed elsewhere the next day. Landrieu says in her press release, " ... we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a Presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment. The good and decent people of southeast Louisiana and the Gulf Coast -- black and white, rich and poor, young and old -- deserve far better from their national government ..." The breached levee was closed on Monday by a sequence of dump trucks building a narrow pathway across the gap toward helicopter-dropped sandbags.

Some responses, however, have concerned themselves not with criticizing the response, but praising the hurricane itself. The American Family Association's Agape Press published praise for the hurricane's destruction as an instrument of God's mercy, in that it "wiped out rampant sin". Rev. Bill Shanks, pastor of New Covenant Fellowship of New Orleans, said "God simply, I believe, in His mercy purged all of that stuff out of there -- and now we're going to start over again." "New Orleans now is abortion free. New Orleans now is Mardi Gras free. New Orleans now is free of Southern Decadence and the sodomites, the witchcraft workers, false religion -- it's free of all of those things now," Shanks says.

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Talk:Tempers flare over New Orleans tragedy

This article is a place to put all the various highly POV quotes which would clog the development queue over the next couple days, and cause numerous POV wars. - Nyarlathotep 15:12, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Seems the Kanye West article got polished up already. We should remember to update the link from it to here.

TV
I need sources for Paula Zahn (CNN), Scarborough (MSNBC), Bill Oreilly (FOX), etc. as I only know about these 2nd hand. BTW, we should link these inline and not waist a source line on every piece of video material of some reported yelling at some politician. - Nyarlathotep 15:12, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Title
We need a better title for this article. - Nyarlathotep 16:14, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I changed it to Blame rampant over New Orleans tragedy, but I doubt that's enough. -- User:NGerda 16:18, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

Maybe "Tempers flair over New Orleans tragedy"? Does not include the religious commentary, but that is okay.. or could get its own article. - Nyarlathotep 16:31, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

WIKINEWS, WHERE ARE YOU?
Where the hell are you? Every other media org is covering how incredibly late the Federal govt.'s response was to this disaster. But not a peep out of WIKINEWS. By now, EVEN Bush has admitted the response was inadequate. WIKINEWS seems to be very late in the game on things like this. I'm very dismayed in it's approach here with a headline that looked like it came striaght out of the onion or the classic '1984' novel.

I have to wonder if there is a lot of conservatives here who rabidly delete/edit factual news and headlines and hide behind a bullsh|t NPOV to promote their agenda here?

POV
"Poor handling of the devistation left by Hurricane Katrina has prompted harsh criticism of American politicians, especially President Bush, for verbally pandering to public opinion, while doing little about the tragedy."

Sheesh... if you fail to understand why that is POV I suggest you move to your local indymedia site. I stopped reading immediately after the first sentence.

 * Yes, "poor handling" would ordinarily be considered POV, but it is objective in this case, as is "doing little". "Pandering" is POV by connotation but I was trying to save space, it could be fixed by adding quotes.  Thanks for the helpful part of your comment.  - Nyarlathotep 20:48, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you're right. It is up to wikinews to decide these things for me.
 * So assuming your being ironic. No, you descide for wikinews through honest discussion and argument on the talk page.  I claimed it was objective, you could ask me for proof.  I'd probably descide to ignore you when I eventually get around to real work later tonight and tomarrow.  :)  But your comments would start a big flame war on the talk channel come monday, and something reasonable would emerge.  My guess is someone would write my one sentence as two sentences which could more easily be made NPOV.

Religious POVs
Can anyone find a few more religious people to quote? We could make a seperate article on the various religious POVs, contrasting the statments of several Rev. Bill Shanks types with the statments made by the "witchcraft workers", "gays", etc. It could be a nice little article. - Nyarlathotep 22:36, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Each paragraph og this could be expanded into a seperate article. Tis' only a question of if anyone spends the time on it. But, as this goes live on Sunday, people could still write Monday articles on any of these topics.

Landrieu accusation
For many reasons, I feel Landrieu accusation diserves a better expostiion in its own article (more NPOV that way, major accusation by major players, etc.). I doubt think she made these comments out of emotion (frustration, anger, confusion, disgust, etc.), which is what this article focuses on. But, as she might have, they should be mentioned here too. Moreover, I'm happy to see them fully documented here while the other article is protected. But once the other article has been unprotect and published, we should consider thinning out the paragraph dedicated to her comments.

Please do not de-publish _this_ article due to someone's addition of those comments. I'm sure you can find more benign refinements, possibly even moving them to the talk page for editing. I also point out that a consensus has been reached on the talk page of the article dedicated to these comments, so it should not remain protected indefinitely. If you wish to work on the future version of Landrieu accusation which will be included here, you might consider doing so in an html comment after the current one. - Nyarlathotep 18:56, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

I think that the accusation should remain in this story. Every accusation, every controversy, doesn't need a story of its own and we should be trying to present a full picture of what is going on and how people are feeling. It's not for Wikinews as a collective body to react in anger to the obviously appalling response by the US government, it's for others on blogs, campaign sites etc, drawing their own conclusions from the news they read here and elsewhere. ClareWhite 14:48, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Notice that Landrieu was implying that there should be more equipment at the site, but all that was shown on TV was a line of dump trucks dropping rock across the hole. Of what use would more equipment have been?  Photos of the breach show little open space nearby, so dump trucks would have had to build a platform for more equipment.  Indeed, the photos must have been on the dry west side of the canal where there is open space.  We don't know whether non-truck equipment was needed earlier or was moved there for photo-op.  Landrieu, however, was demanding equipment be brought which may not have been needed.  News reports mentioned sheets of metal being used, which implies a crane took over the pathway after the gap was closed.  (SEWilco 16:40, 6 September 2005 (UTC))

Blog link
An anon added a link to a blog to the article. Though I don't think it's relevant here, the blog link is interesting, containing links to pictures from the ground in New Orleans. I'm wondering if there's another place for it.

Maybe Wikipedia? --Ardonik.talk(*) 06:21, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, we need a story about that blog, everyone has been following it. If it does not deserve a Wikipedia entry, but it should be discussed extensively on the disaster's wikipedia entry, as it was a major part of many heavy internet user's experence. - Nyarlathotep 10:59, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Inaccurate description of Agape Press article
The Wikinews article states: "Some responses, however, have concerned themselves not with criticizing the response, but praising the hurricane itself. The American Family Association's Agape Press published praise for the hurricane's destruction as an instrument of God's mercy, in that it 'wiped out rampant sin'." This makes it seem as if the Agape Press article praised the hurricane because it wiped out sin. That is completely wrong. Here's what the Agape Press article actually states: "Rev. Bill Shanks, pastor of New Covenant Fellowship of New Orleans, also sees God's mercy in the aftermath of Katrina -- but in a different way. Shanks says the hurricane has wiped out much of the rampant sin common to the city." It's simply reporting what Shanks said and is not taking any sides on the statement. The two sentences from the Wikinews article should be altered to clarify this. 67.135.49.116 02:11, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No, this would be a content change and the article would no longer reflect what was written at the time. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


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US unemployment fell to four-year low before Katrina

September 3, 2005

The United States Department of Labor announced that the country's unemployment rate fell to a four-year low of 4.9%. American employers created about 169,000 new jobs in August. However, this trend is projected to end due to Hurricane Katrina (the data was collected prior to the hurricane).

Economists expect the number of jobless to grow by more than 500,000 in September and the unemployment rate to drive up over 5% again, but they are unsure of the effect an of upcoming Federal Reserve decision on interest rates. Some sources believe the Fed will make no change, while others say the rates will likely be increased to prevent the economy from overheating, causing inflation, which also may be caused by the surge in crude oil and gasoline prices.

The markets fell despite the unemployment data. The Dow Jones industrial average fell 12.26 points to 10,447.37 while Nasdaq fell 6.83 points to 2,141.07. The US dollar declined slightly against most world currencies.


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Talk:Federal response to Katrina a "national disgrace"

Good title! Provacative but just NPOV enough. But, to keep this title, the article's subject matter must be changed. It could be a good article, but I'm not going to fix it, at least not until tomarrow. - Nyarlathotep 16:17, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Note: People's harsh statments should be included in "Tempers flair over New Orleans tragedy". Critisism of (or support for) the U.S. refusal of foreign aid should be included in "Many nations offer material aid to hurricane victims; Bush refuses to accept". All three of these articles should contain one line blurbs aluding to the content of the others, and reference one another.

Okay, I went ahead and did it, but I had a harder time staying NPOV here. Sorry, please try not to kill the content if you lighten the langauge. - Nyarlathotep 20:34, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

WIKINEWS, WHERE ARE YOU?
Where the hell are you? Every other media org is covering how incredibly late the Federal govt.'s response was to this disaster. But not a peep out of WIKINEWS. By now, EVEN Bush has admitted the response was inadequate. WIKINEWS seems to be very late in the game on things like this. I'm very dismayed in it's approach here with a headline that looked like it came striaght out of the onion or the classic '1984' novel.

I have to wonder if there is a lot of conservatives here who rabidly delete/edit factual news and headlines and hide behind a bullsh|t NPOV to promote their agenda here?

 * See if you'd actually understood anything about wikinews, you would have read the article, and moved it to publish, from develop. I clearly didn't want to move the article myself due to having written lots of it myself.  But you could have done it.  OTOH, I suppose I can publish this one since I didn't start it, but I also made it too POV, so I'd rather wait.  - Nyarlathotep 20:52, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I would write or move to publish an article, but I already know through experience here that it would be removed and/or drastically edited by conservative admins here. I'm not referring directly to this article.  I'm referring to the fact that all the other media has covered Bush's late response (even Fox News) and yet there is NOT ONE article on WIKINEWS that directly reports on this.  If I honestly thought I could cover this and it wouldn't be removed from here immediately by conservative admins here, I would certainly do it.  I think it's very telling that there is no article about the late response and the Bush admin.'s pulling of funding for the levees -Cowicide 68.3.52.158 23:11, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Cowicide, once again, you really can't come here and try to attack a wiki for not containing the information you want. You also might want to take note that Wikinews does contain several articles that discuss a late response from the federal government.  So much for all the "conservative" POV from the admins, eh?  Cllewr 00:59, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Seems to have survived thus far. :)  I agree that conservatives have tried to censor content via the NPOV policy, but I've yet to see a situation where said content could not be reinserted in a way to mute their objections.  So problems occur when you have IMC types who can't or won't rewrite.  I feel this is a cultural flaw created by IMC's polcies, including the fact that IMC is not a wiki.  - Nyarlathotep 01:58, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Cllewr, I was just surprised to see that there was not an article that was solely about the late response with details of how.. why.. etc... you know? Just like I've seen everywhere else in the media here and abroad DAYS ago... but strangely, not on WIKINEWS... until now. -Cowicide 68.3.52.158 02:45, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Bush Photo
We should include a picture of President Bush which demonstes in action after the hurricane. Are we allowed to use AP photographs like the following? http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20050830/capt.capm10108301730.bush_capm101.jpg?x=380&y=319&sig=S9PIuC6ZS7lKJDr57sKhDQ--
 * Nope, sorry. Fair use does not cover photos from other news groups --Cspurrier 02:53, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Found a public domain image. (SEWilco 06:00, 7 September 2005 (UTC))

NPOV dispute
''This article is disputed because it doesn't present a neutral POV. Local officials are at least as much to blame as the national officials for the outcome of this disaster. This story unfairly attempts to paint a picture that the national officials are primarily to blame for the results of this disaster.'' - User:Busted (Comment moved by Amgine/talk 06:32, 4 September 2005 (UTC))

I've discussed local officials in the last sentence of the article, which should be enough distinction to be "fair" as "Controversy over whether New Orleans Mayor failed to follow hurricane plan" exists and is linked. Feal free to expand on my commentary, but I don't feel the need to do much work so long as their is a seperate article on it. Do we want to vote on merging the two articles? My vote is no, as their is a very good first hand story about state officials which will not be merged, so why not keep all three seperate? In adidition, I propose that both the federal and local articles be deamed NPOV enough to publish as people have done good work on them. What else needs to be done on this article? - Nyarlathotep 13:05, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Is it true that, as the article said, schoolbuses "were to be used" in the evacuation? I thought the arguments over the schoolbus were just that they COULD have been used, not that they WERE TO have been used. I didn't edit the article because I'm not sure what the facts are, but someone should if they know the facts better.


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Swazi princess beaten by government official for wild party

September 3, 2005

Ntfonjeni Dlamini, the government's official overseer of traditional affairs, beat one of the princesses of Swaziland.

A daughter of HM, 17-year-old Princess Sikhanyiso was throwing a party with loud music and alcohol. The party was to celebrate the end of the chastity decree.

"It was within the traditional overseer's right to discipline anyone — including princesses — who wanted to spoil the important [Reed Dance] ceremony," claimed Jim Gama, governor of the queen mother's residence. The Reed Dance ceremony is an annual ritual in the culture.

Princess Sikhanyiso had already caused ire around Swaziland, as she broke traditions by wearing Western-style short skirts and jeans.


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Liberia's World Cup woes averted

September 3, 2005

In a last minute change of position, the National Transitional Government of Liberia (NTGL) has reversed its decision not to allow the Liberian National football team, The Lone Star, to attend Sunday's World Cup qualifier against Togo. The NTGL had announced on Wednesday that the squad would not be able to travel to Lome, Togo because of a lack of funds to pay for the team's travel.

In a statement explaining its decision not to fund the team's travel, the NTGL highlighted more pressing financial obligations such as the country's upcoming national elections and the demobilization of the nation's defunct armed forces. "As a result of the huge expenditure, the National Transitional Government of Liberia has decided it is unfeasible to underwrite the Lone Star's travel to Togo," said the Minister of Information, Dr. C. William Allen.

The decision to allow The Lone Star to travel to Lome was made after the price of the team's travel decreased from US$31,000 to US$18,000. The team now plans to fly to Accra and take a bus to Lome versus fly the entire way. Had Liberia failed to take the field on Sunday, the country would have faced fines of US$31,895 and possible prohibition from participating in the 2010 World Cup to be held in South Africa. Incidentally, the fines would have been slightly more than the team's original travel budget.

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Federal government begins employing strategies to repair New Orleans

September 3, 2005

When Hurricane Katrina flooded most of New Orleans in up to thirty feet of water, an engineering nightmare was created. Now, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers seems to have found a solution.

The problem was caused by three breaches in a levee system not designed to withstand a powerful Category 4 hurricane. These breaks allowed water to flow into New Orleans from massive Lake Pontchartrain.

It will take between 36 and 80 days according to Brig. Gen. Robert Crear, but engineers believe they've found a way to get water out of the city.

The first step was to stop the rising level of water, which the Corps and a team of private contractors accomplished yesterday.

Currently, the 17th Street Canal is being closed using a combination of steel sheets, 300-lb. and 3,000-lb. sandbags, and the construction of a rock dyke. The London Avenue breach will be closed off as well while the break at the Inner Harbor Lock will be left open to allow drainage.

In St. Bernard Parish, one of the hardest-hit areas of the city, a levee is being opened to allow water to drain out.

Once the water finally drains out of New Orleans, some areas will still be up to seven feet deep due to the city's location under sea level. This will have to be pumped out, possible only when electricity returns.


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Talk:Federal government begins employing strategies to repair New Orleans

Looks good to me, but some quotes and a pic would make it even better. StuRat 18:53, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

WIKINEWS, WHERE ARE YOU?
Where the hell are you? Every other media org is covering how incredibly late the Federal govt.'s response was to this disaster. But not a peep out of WIKINEWS. By now, EVEN Bush has admitted the response was inadequate. WIKINEWS seems to be very late in the game on things like this. I'm very dismayed in it's approach here with a headline that looked like it came striaght out of the onion or the classic '1984' novel.

I have to wonder if there is a lot of conservatives here who rabidly delete/edit factual news and headlines and hide behind a bullsh|t NPOV to promote their agenda here?

 * Didn't you see this article yesterday ?

 * Louisiana officials accused of blocking rescue volunteers

 * Hardly seems pro-government to me ! StuRat 20:38, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

 * This person obviously does not understand the premise of Wikinews. If you think a news story ought to be getting more attention, don't whine about it -- write an article!  Cllewr 21:26, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I would write an article, but I already know through experience here that it would be removed and/or drastically edited by conservative admins here. StuRat, I'm not referring directly to this article.  I'm referring to the fact that all the other media has covered Bush's late response (even Fox News) and yet there is NOT ONE article on WIKINEWS that directly reports on this.  If I honestly thought I could cover this and it wouldn't be removed from here immediately by conservative admins here, I would certainly do it.  I think it's very telling that there is no article about the late response and the Bush admin.'s pulling of funding for the levees -Cowicide 68.3.52.158 23:11, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I would welcome such an article, but the facts would have to be straight. Such as, the funding was not pulled, it was reduced. The levee was improved quite recently. And, after the improvements, it failed. As to "late" response, I don't have any ability to compare it to any other disaster responses. How long b4 administration response to last summer's hurricanes? comparable or not? I think it isn't terrible to write measured, verifiable news articles, rather than the hyped and less-well-supported rhetoric of first-to-press. - Amgine/talk 23:17, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Amgine, thanks for the response. You are correct, the funding was reduced (drastically)... not "pulled" completely. That's what I meant by "pulled"... as in "pulled out money". I never would have suggested that as a headline anyway and is beside my points. Here's some informative articles that you may want to peruse:

• Why city's defenses were down

• No One Can Say they Didn't See it Coming In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war.

• Virtually everything that has happened in New Orleans since Hurricane Katrina struck was predicted by experts and in computer models, so emergency management specialists wonder why authorities were so unprepared. "The scenario of a major hurricane hitting New Orleans was well anticipated, predicted and drilled around," said Clare Rubin, an emergency management consultant who also teaches at the Institute for Crisis, Disaster, and Risk Management at George Washington University. Computer models developed at Louisiana State University and other institutions made detailed projections of what would happen if water flowed over the levees protecting the city or if they failed. In July 2004, more than 40 federal, state, local and volunteer organizations practiced this very scenario in a five-day simulation code-named "Hurricane Pam," where they had to deal with an imaginary storm that destroyed over half a million buildings in New Orleans and forced the evacuation of a million residents.

Amgine, if you can't find sources across the spectrum (INCLUDING BUSH'S OWN ADMISSION) that the response was too slow/inadequate. THEN YOU ARE NOT LOOKING. -Cowicide 68.3.52.158 23:32, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

 * You're correct; I'm not looking. It's not my story. Looks like you have a reasonable start to an article there; why not continue on and build the article? - Amgine/talk 23:35, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Like I said above... I think it would be a waste of my time because it would be deleted or edited into obscurity by hostile, biased conservative admins. This is based on my previous experience and observations at WIKINEWS.  Until things change here, I'm not going to spend a bunch of time working on articles only to see them toasted by biased agendas.  I think these guys are getting many others who would gladly contribute here to avoid spending time with WIKINEWS as well.  They also poison the readership against WIKINEWS and divert them elsewhere for news.  It's a shame, because there is so much potential for WIKINEWS to be a great (diverse) source of info.  Instead, it's pretty watered down overall because of out of control conservatives here (some of whom lie about their political agenda, I've noticed).  For now, I'm going to put my grievances with WIKINEWS forward and when I see changes (this article needs to be UNLOCKED, for example) then I will strongly consider (as will many others) contributing time and effort towards WIKINEWS.  Till then, many won't waste their time and readership will yawn and move on.  Thanks again for your reply. -Cowicide 68.3.52.158 23:50, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

I believe in hyperbole about as much as I believe in Star Wars. I mean, what would you do? What? You send out notice of mandatory evacuation for New Orleans. Some people can't make it out, that's a fact of life. Make a fluid and practicle argument for what's to be done with those people, "that can't make it out," or refuse to. -Edbrown05 00:15, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Don't excuse me while I do go on a rant. The liberal argument that this or that should be done is "not specific" nor "actionable". Same as the Democratic anti-war mongering. Yeah, you got a consevative bias going here at Wikinews cuz ya' ain't got a liberal leg to stand on. All the liberal bleeding hearts got is a "rant" and a "can't". Do something! -Edbrown05 01:03, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Republicans have usurped the Democratic middle ground, and Democrats are too stupid to understand or define the "New Democrat" of the Clinton presidency so the last election was was squandered to Dubya and I'm truly worried for the "lost souls" not in the mid-term elections... but the the next U.S. presidential election. -Edbrown05 01:14, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

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The federal government is not currently "employing" strategies, they are exploring, researching, considering, or thinking about strategies. Big diffrence. - Nyarlathotep 21:34, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The manager of the Howard Johnson's hotel that I was staying in at Virginia Beach, Virginia, said that Friday, two bus loads of hurricane victims came into town. They were sent first to social services where they were processed for food stamp assistance, then to the unemployment office to seek job placement. The resort [Virginia Beach] was not a sell-out so far for this Labor Day weekend. -Edbrown05 23:55, 3 September 2005 (UTC)


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Cape Verde to launch first public university, with Brazil's support

September 3, 2005

To help launch Cape Verde's first public university, the Brazilian government has made the promise to provide organizational advice and to train professors.

According to Fernando Haddad, Brazilian Minister of Education, Brazil will send its professors to the small nation off the African coast to train them in lecturing, marking, and other important skills involved in the profession.

Filomena Martins, Cape Verdean Minister of Education and Human Resource Enhancement, met with Haddad on August 22 to work out the details of the plan, which was first launched by Brazil's President, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, in July 2004.

Cape Verde also hopes to increase the level of education for the university professors themselves. Of the 300 professors at the planned institution, only 3% have doctorates and only 21% have master's degrees.

Brazil also helps Cape Verde reduce its debt through the Post-Graduate Student Agreement Program. PEC-PG encourages Cape Verdeans to become foreign exchange students in Brazil. In 2005-06, 20 students will participate, with the level increasing to 50 students in the next calendar year.


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Looks good, but did need quite a few wording fixes. I also changed the title to note that this info is all prior to the hurricane and no longer accurate. StuRat 19:16, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

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Looks good. I added the source's author, did some wording fixes, added wiki links, and added South America to the categories. A locator pic of Cape Verde would be nice, too, since I doubt if many peole know where it is. StuRat 19:45, 3 September 2005 (UTC)


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I don't think it was a good decision to make this a separate article, as it loses it's meaning without the context of yesterdays article, which talked about AIDS and anti-sex laws there. It's true that yesterday's article needed some reorganization, but that's no reason to start hacking parts out of it. StuRat 20:02, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Misleading headline?
When I first saw this headline, I thought that the princess was beaten as part of a party (i.e., she was punished because they wanted to have a good time) -- not that it was punishment for a party that she had. Any ideas on how to improve? Cllewr 21:30, 3 September 2005 (UTC)


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Sun retires the Sun Industry Standards Source License

September 3, 2005

Yesterday, September 2, Sun Microsystems announced the retirement of the Sun Industry Standard Source License (SISSL) scheme. The Open Source Initiative had been discussing ways of reducing the quantity of Open Source licenses to make it easier for developers and companies to chose a license. Dropping the SISSL takes them one step closer to this goal. Sun's decision to drop the SISSL comes a few months after Intel's similar decision to drop its Open Source License in March.

Simon Phipps, the director of Sun's Open Source Office, said in his blog that he will ask the OSI to put the SISSL on the "not recommended" list. He also said “I'd encourage any project that's currently using it to make other plans at the time of their next major release”.

No future Sun open-source projects will use the SISSL, and current Sun projects using a dual-license scheme will drop the SISSL “as soon as the development cycle allows”. One of Sun's most popular open-source projects, OpenOffice.org, is licensed under both the LGPL and SISSL. As of September 2, all OpenOffice.org 2.0 code is now licensed exclusively under the LGPL.

Sun prefers the Community Development and Distribution License, a variant of the Mozilla Public License. Sun released OpenSolaris and the Glassfish Java server under the Community Development and Distribution License.


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Mayor of New Orleans Ray Nagin slams Bush, federal government in radio interview

September 3, 2005

The mayor of New Orleans, Ray Nagin, castigated the federal government for lack of response to Hurricane Katrina in a radio interview Friday. During a climatic point in the interview, Nagin stated,

 * We authorized $8 billion to go to Iraq, lickity split. After 9/11, we gave the President unlimited powers, lickity split, to take care of New York and other places.
 * You mean to tell me that a place where most of your oil is coming through, a place so unique that when you mention "New Orleans" anywhere around the world, everybody's eyes light up. You mean to tell me that a place where you probably have thousands of people who have died and thousands more are dying every day, we can't get figure out a way to authorize the resources that we need.
 * I mean, I'm not one of those drug addicts. I am thinking very clearly.  And I don't know whose problem it is; I don't know if it's the governor's problem or if it's the President's problem, but somebody needs to get their ass on a plane and sit down the two of them and figure this thing out right now.

The mayor also called for a "moratorium on press conferences" and criticized the slow federal action. "There is nothing happening. And they're feeding the public a line of bull and they're spinning, and people are dying down here."

Mayor Nagin is being called a hero by some for ordering the evacuation as early as he did, though many commentators and experts suggested possible improvements to city policies prior to the disaster. The mayor allegedly failed to follow the city's evacuation plan which called for using school and municipal busses for evacuating individuals without transportation.


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Deadly blaze in Paris possibly caused by arson

September 3, 2005 The fire that broke out in a Parisian building that housed black immigrants may have been caused by criminals who committed arson, authorities announced. Activist groups denounce housing and immigration policies.

In the night of August 25 to August 26, a fire broke out a run-down apartment building located at 20, Bd Vincent Auriol in Paris, France. The building housed a number of immigrant families from Africa. These families had squatted the building illegally, until the building was bought by the local government and ran through some charity; even then, the building did not respect applicable safety norms.

Experts have examined the situation. While no hydrocarbons (fuel etc.) were found on the scene, the speed of the fire seems to indicate a criminal origin. For this reason, the prosecution service of Paris (parquet) opened a criminal investigation for "arson resulting in death". An investigating magistrate has been named. Criminals face a maximal penalty of life imprisonment, though lesser criminal qualifications may be retained during the course of the enquiry.

On Saturday 4, protests were staged denouncing the recent fires that killed black immigrant families housed in unsafe buildings. Left-wing groups such as the Revolutionary Communist League denounced the immigration, workforce and housing policies of the center-right government, as well as its center-left predecessor, as regressive and promoting racism.


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Why is this not posted? It is Sept. 4th in Paris right now. What time zone do wikinews servers use? - Nyarlathotep 23:03, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * UTC. Cllewr 01:45, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

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I photographed the building and saw some of the protesters as well as leaflets and posters. Submarine 22:48, 3 September 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:Sun retires the Sun Industry Standards Source License

Looks good, but did need quite a bit of clean-up. Proofread it a bit more next time. A pic, say of the Sun logo, would be nice. StuRat 00:19, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

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Correct link is http://blogs.oracle.com/webmink/entry/addressing_proliferation_deeds_not_just

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User talk:65.94.161.61

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User talk:Andrevan

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 * Just wanted to say hi. Last one was so long ago it doesn't really count. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:49, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

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You should probably be using Template:Deletion request to flag articles for deletion, not Template:delete. The latter is for hoaxes, nonsense, and other such stuff that should be deleted fairly quickly. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The one you speedied is a real place. :) --Brian McNeil / talk 08:09, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

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Andrew - See commments on http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:US_Supreme_Court_rules_against_EPA_on_global_warming. Thanks. Michael614 17:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Dispute??
My friend, you wrote one article in Wikinews and you already dispute my article http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Program_Ecumenical_Hellenism_starts_second_decade_of_action. This article is the fourth one in a series of OR articles regarding this issue. Zorba 22:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

ArbCom elections
Hi - unfortunately I've had to strike your votes in the current ArbCom elections, because you don't meet the requirments of having >250 mainspace edits before July 1. Personally, I hesitated before doing this, based on your standing on Wikipedia (:)), but eventually had to decide to enforce the rules as they currently stand (perhaps they're open to change if consensus agrees). Sorry - Martinp23 19:31, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:65.66.16.192

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User talk:69.141.139.78

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User talk:68.104.247.222

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User talk:213.171.63.52

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User talk:64.142.91.20

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User talk:65.139.155.33

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Childhood ibuprofen-triggered asthma a concern

September 4, 2005

A new study in the Journal of Pediatrics indicates that childhood ibuprofen-triggered asthma attacks is a health concern for many children. Although the rate of ibuprofen-sensitive asthma is low, it is a concern due to the number of children who use ibuprofen and have asthma. According to Dr. Jason Debley, more than 100,000 asthmatic children are at risk for asthma attacks brought on by ibuprofen. Debley emphasized that parents and doctors of children with asthma should be careful when administering ibuprofen.

Ibuprofen-sensitive asthma attacks have been known of for quite some time, but a study has never before measured its risks and effects. According to Debley: "Although it has been recognized for some time that (drugs like ibuprofen) can trigger...an asthma attack in some people, the prevalence of ibuprofen-sensitive asthma in children had previously not been studied in a rigorous manner."

The study was conducted in Children's Hospital in Seattle to try to determine how many asthmatic children are sensitive to ibuprofen. It was run using 100 children who have mild to moderate asthma.

The child subjects were given either ibuprofen or a placebo in the trial. Within two hours of ibuprofen administration, four percent of the subjects exhibited decreased lung function by more than 15 percent; none of the placebo group children experienced this decrease.

Debley notes that ibuprofen should be given to children with asthma cautiously. He also warns that there may be a higher risk of decreased lung function after ibuprofen has been given to kids with more severe asthma. Parents and doctors should be aware of this and act accordingly.


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Talk:Childhood ibuprofen-triggered asthma a concern

Looks good. The title was a bit misleading, I took it to mean ibuprofen CAUSED asthma, while it really only triggers or worsens an attack in kids who already have it. That was easily fixed. I generally like to see more than one source, but this isn't very controversial, so I suppose we can take that one source at it's word. A pic would be nice, maybe of a coughing child or an ibuprofen tablet ? You could even take the those yourself, upload them to WikiCommons, and get extra credit for an original image ! StuRat 01:49, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Avoid Drug-triggered asthma, I've looked at the natural alternatives
Having had family members with asthma, I've looked at the natural alternatives to traditional drug therapy. You would not believe what's out there ! I have tried to separate fact from fiction, but its not always easy.


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Find me at http://www.webmink.net/

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User talk:70.119.120.22

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User talk:67.86.17.201

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User talk:69.174.79.103

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User talk:68.158.52.109

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Australia hits new Telstra privatization hurdles

September 4, 2005

The Australian Government's plan for the full privatization of Telstra, Australia's dominant telecommunications company, received criticism leveled at the government and company by executives. The government owns 51.8%, with the remaining 48.2% of Telstra stock held by shareholders, having been partially floated in the 1990s.

Phil Burgess, senior executive, made comments that Telstra was "a loser" hindered by excessive regulations and that he would not recommend purchasing the shares to his mother. The government responded, with Treasurer Peter Costello telling the Telstra management to manage the company and leave industry regulation to the government. Prime Minister John Howard repeated those sentiments, saying Telstra's problem was government ownership over government regulation.

There are plans for introducing legislation next week which will approve the sale of the remainder of the government's share. This is the first time such legislation will have gone through the Senate with the Coalition, consisting of the Liberal and National parties, controlling both the Senate and the House of Representatives. This may allow the predominantly Liberal-backed proposal to be passed. However, members of the National Party have spoken out against full privatisation, citing concerns over the future of less profitable rural services. A major base of support for the National Party is in rural areas.

Two major financial institutions divested their Telstra stock as shares dropped to their lowest point since mid last year.


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User:Christopherlin

Major Hurricane Katrina-related project: help collect disparate lists on various places on the Web to Colleges offering admission to displaced New Orleans students.

 * Colleges offering admission to displaced New Orleans students
 * Alabama – Kentucky
 * Louisiana – North Dakota
 * Ohio – Wyoming
 * International
 * Faculty, graduate and professional students
 * Templates for subpages
 * Template:Katrina college list top
 * Template:Katrina college list bottom
 * Template:Katrina college list index
 * Template:Katrina college list pages

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Talk:Australia hits new Telstra privatization hurdles

Looks good. The title was a bit long and there were some run-on sentences, but those were easily fixed. Same for the spelling error. One of the sources had a completely different title, I am guessing they revised the title, so I change your source title to match. A pic of the Telstra logo would be nice. StuRat 03:06, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I considered this, but wasn't sure of the legalities of a logo. The image page on Wikipedia for the Telstra logo claimed fair use, which wouldn't let it get onto Commons, and I wasn't sure about Wikinews policy. Dorian Gray 03:08, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

British/American spelling
Note that words such as "privatisation" are not misspelled. Using an "s" is such words is British/Australian spelling. The standard on Wikipedia is to leave such words spelled the way that they were written originally. I think the same should apply on Wikinews, lest we end up reverting each other for something which is quite minor. - Borofkin 00:38, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I thought that if "Privatisation" was an english spelling, then the OED dictionary or other UK dictionary would have that listed. I assumed that since dictionary.com showed no listings in *any* dictionary, that it was not a OE/AE (Original English / American English) spelling issue. -- 00:47, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmmmm, you're right, it isn't in the OED. Well, um, it certainly is a standard way to spell the word. See, for example, this article in the Guardian, titled "The privatisation of war", or this in Forbes titled "Court rules Budapest airport privatisation invalid". - Borofkin 00:57, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Interesting, examining Google results, 'privatisation' seems to be mostly concentrated in African (Malawi, Uganda, Zambia) and South Asia countries (Pakistan, India, Nepal).

 * Google results across all domains: 2.7 million vs. 6.7 million in favor of 'Z'.
 * Searching only .uk domains: 500,000 vs 43,000 in favor of 'S'.
 * Searching .au domains: 212,000 vs. 15,000 in favor of 'S'.
 * So apparently it is a word more commonly used in the Queen's English....but why the heck isn't it in the OED? (or any other dictionary?). -- 13:34, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I was wondering the same thing myself. Perhaps it is because the British Empire favours government provision of services rather than neo-liberal free-market ideology. :-) - Borofkin 23:52, 5 September 2005 (UTC)


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India struggles with encephalitis outbreak

September 4, 2005

Over 400 have died in an outbreak of encephalitis in India's northern state of Uttar Pradesh and nearby regions, including neighbouring Nepal. The actual figures are estimated to be much higher, as the current toll only takes into account those that have died at public hospitals, excluding any deaths in villages and private hospitals. A further 1500 or more are estimated to currently be hospitalised with the disease. The majority of the dead and infected are reported to be under 15.

The first cases of the disease this season were reported in late July. The disease is carried by pigs, which then migrates to humans through mosquitos. The outbreak has prompted the Indian government to undertake such measures as deployment of pig catchers in seriously affected areas, distributing thousands of mosquito curtains and spraying pesticides. Several million vials of encephalitis vaccine have also been promised by the government, which will help prepare health agencies for next year. Plans for vaccines to be delivered to the historically most affected areas this year were delayed due to lack of funds and low prioritisation relative to other diseases.

This is not the first time such an event has occurred. Thousands have died of the disease over the past three decades in the region. The most common period for the disease is during the monsoon season (July-September).