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2007 Major League Soccer Playoffs: Chicago Fire vs. DC United

October 26, 2007

Chicago Fire beat DC United to take a 1-0 advantage into the 2nd leg on Chris Rolfe 1st career playoff goal. Chicago Fire also remained undefeated against DC United in the playoffs.

Chicago played a defensive game as DC United, who scored 56 goals during the regular season, only managed 2 shots which hit the target.

The return leg is at home to DC United on Thursday, November 1.

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User talk:201.88.205.114

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User talk:KruusCosko~enwikinews

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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

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User talk:150.101.17.22

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Wikinews:CommonsTicker/20071026

26 October

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User:203.57.68.13

I got tired of that red link. Not that red links work entirely consistantly in WN, but, you know...

So Viola!

(That's French for, "Look, a large violin!")

--203.57.68.13 02:44, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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Oil prices reach all-time high; pass US$91.00 per barrel

October 26, 2007

Oil has risen to a new all-time record high during trading in Asia, passing US$91.10 at 10:23 p.m. on October 25 (eastern time).

In electronic trading at the NYMEX Crude Futures in the United States touched a record price of, at US$92.22, according to Bloomberg, setting another record all-time high. On the IntercontinentalExchange Brent Crude futures reached US$89.30 (basis December) as of 8:34 a.m..

NYMEX Crude closed at $91.86, while ICE Brent closed at $88.69, at the conclusion of Friday's trading.

The raise come when the United States announced that it had an "unexpected loss" in the nation's stockpile of oil. The fear that Turkey may launch a large scale attack on Kurdish Militants inside Iraq is also being blamed for the raise in prices and the U.S. imposed more sanctions on Iran for continuing to enrich uranium.

Australia's Commonwealth Banks states that the raise is "being supported by an increase in geopolitical tensions and also market developments. The US has announced that it is imposing new sanctions on Iran, Oil markets also continued to have an eye on developments related to the current tensions between Turkey and Kurd rebels in Iraq."

OPEC has agreed that by November 1, 2007, they will increase the amount of barrels of oil they produce by 500,000 barrels a day. The U.S. says that they would like that number increased.


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OR?
Does having to update the prices constantly OR? curious... DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 03:42, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I doubt it. However, writing stories on such things as markets with constantly changing prices is a challenge. Perhaps the solution is to write the story at the end of the market day which for oil is the close of NYMEX and ICE which occurs at 2:30 p.m. Eastern time. --SVTCobra 12:38, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


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I wonder how low oil prices would be if they were based on what happens, not what some people think might happen.

 * Couldn't of said it better myself. Contralya 06:19, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Given current stockpiles and proven reserves, I'd estimate the price to $40 or so, meaning that the current risk-premium in crude is an astonishing $50. --SVTCobra 15:51, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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I believe the price for making coal-gasification economical is ~$70 or $80 a barrel, cool. Fephisto 15:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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How high do you think it has to go before there is a significant decrease in the amount of oil people use? Or, at what price would you stop fuelling up and find alternative modes of transportation? Wikisoup 16:54, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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What's this "unexpected loss" about? Spacehusky 23:38, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Briefs/October 26, 2007

ISIS says target of Israeli airstrike in Syria was a nuclear facility
Researchers at the Institute for Science and International Security (ISIS) have stated that a building that was located inside Syria at the site where Israel launched an airstrike on, has not only been completely removed, but that it was also a nuclear reactor under construction.

The researchers obtained the images from DigitalGlobe and released the satellite images of the site before the airstrike and according to them, the building is a nuclear reactor. They also state that the images show a facility much like the on in North Korea at Yongbyon. Another image taken on October 24, shows a site where a large building used to be, the ground being wiped clean of its existence. A water-pumping station located on the Euphrates River was believed to be used for cooling the reactor, claim the ISIS.

Syria denies that they are building any kind of nuclear facility stating "the main point is that is that the Israeli fighter jet violated the airspace of a member state of the United Nations... and (should) assume the consequences."

Currently, the United States denies that the satellite photos show any site inside Syria and have not commented on the images. The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) also refused to release a statement.

Australian soldier killed in Afghanistan
Matthew Locke, an Australian special forces soldier with the Special Air Service Regiment (SAS) has been shot and killed while taking part in a 300-man special operatives attack against the Taliban in Afghanistan. The death, Australia's third combat soldier death since the Vietnam War, is the second to occur in October.

The soldier, believed to be employed in Perth, Australia in the State of Tasmania and married with an unknown amount of children, was immediately lifted from the scene by the aero-medical helicopter evacuation team and was pronounced dead early this morning after suffering critical wounds throughout his chest. It is reported that he had received "high bravery honors" just before the battle.

Leaked emails show UK RAF were aware of Nimrod problems prior to fatal crash
Leaked emails have revealed that the United Kingdom's Royal Air Force (RAF) were aware of a dangerous problem with fuel leaking from Nimrod MR2 surveillance aircraft long before one exploded in midair during a mission in Kandahar, Afghanistan. All 14 people on board were killed in the crash in September last year.

A board of inquiry has recently completed deliberating the cause of the accident, with a final report expected in about two weeks time. It is expected by many that the report will find a fuel leak was to blame. The crash was the largest loss of life from any UK service in a single incident since the Falklands war. Although the report will determine the cause of the crash and make recommendations to prevent its reoccurence, it will not attempt to establish blame for the disaster.

FEMA employees pose as fake reporters during press conference
The United States Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is under fire after the agency held a fake press conference with fake news reporters in regards to individuals effected by the California wildfires and the assistance they could receive.

The agency called a press conference on Tuesday, giving the press only 15 minutes to show up. When many did not, FEMA brought in agency officials to pose as fake reporters and ask questions. The option for reporters to call into the conference was also available, but the ones who did call-in only got to listen to the press conference, and could not ask questions. No reporters were actually present during the conference.

FEMA apologizes for the mishap and says that their intentions were only to get the information to the citizens of California. FEMA is currently deciding whether or not any officials should face punishment for the incident.

This is not the first time that the Bush administration has come under fire for planting reporters at press conferences. In February of 2005, White House reporter Jeff Gannon was accused of being planted to ask softball questions to President Bush.

Oil prices reach all-time high; pass US$91.00 per barrel
Oil has risen to a new all-time record high during trading in Asia, passing US$91.10 at 10:23 p.m. on October 25 (eastern time).

In electronic trading at the NYMEX Crude Futures in the United States touched a record price of, at US$92.22, according to Bloomberg, setting another record all-time high. On the IntercontinentalExchange Brent Crude futures reached US$89.30 (basis December) as of 8:34 a.m..

NYMEX Crude closed at $91.86, while ICE Brent closed at $88.69, at the conclusion of Friday's trading.

The raise come when the United States announced that it had an "unexpected loss" in the nation's stockpile of oil. The fear that Turkey may launch a large scale attack on Kurdish Militants inside Iraq is also being blamed for the raise in prices and the U.S. imposed more sanctions on Iran for continuing to enrich uranium.

This has been an Audio Wikinews brief and is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 license at http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/

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User:Grtexplosion979

yay!

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User talk:129.2.175.79

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User talk:82.3.164.133

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User talk:124.217.55.17

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User talk:Durova

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Thanks
Thanks for reverting the vandalism to David Shankbone's talk page. --Jcart1534 - (talk) 01:48, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I don't drop by Wikinews very often, but I'll gladly respond to cross-wiki problems.  Regards, Durova - (talk) 21:05, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Input
Hey, would you be interested in giving some input on WN:COI ? I was thinking we could consult COI policies for news agencies and also non-profit organizations as a reference. Cirt - (talk) 22:08, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. I'll see what I can do. Durova - (talk) 22:58, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, would also be interested to hear your thoughts on this one: Criteria to use an article as a source on Wikipedia. Cirt - (talk) 02:20, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Mentoring
Hi!

Feel free to contact me about anything you need clarifying or help with and I'll be glad to help. I'm in England (GMT+1) :) --Skenmy(t•c•w) 15:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'm in California (land of the setting sun, behind everybody except Hawaii). Durova - (talk) 16:01, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Wikinews is more of a "cross your fingers and dive in" project, and I'm even further east than Skenmy here in Belgium. But if you want anything looked over don't hesitate to ask. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you both! Here's what's on my mind today. Not sure how Wikinews approaches this kind of thing.

 * "Beware of the Mobile Phone It Can Kill You Faster than Smoking"
 * New research has revealed that mobile phones are more injurious to people’s health than smoking. Why is that? It seems that mobile phone usage and brain cancer are linked to each other.

Now that's what I call bad science reporting. The reporter relies heavily a single neurosurgeon, who it turns out is speculating about the outcomes of clinical trials that aren't scheduled to end until 2012, and the rebuttal (which is quite damning) is a short paragraph near the end of the piece: the World Health Organization and most international experts disagree with that neurosurgeon. Even if he's absolutely right, there's no way cell phone use could be a bigger public health risk than smoking. And according to Google News, 87 news sources worldwide ran this story. The others I checked were basically as skewed as the example above.

Cribbing a few well-referenced lines from Wikipedia below. The citation format is different (I need to learn these things) Durova - (talk) 17:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

From en:Brain tumor In the United States in the year 2005, it was estimated that there were 43,800 new cases of brain tumors (Central Brain Tumor Registry of the United States, Primary Brain Tumors in the United States, Statistical Report, 2005 - 2006), which accounted for 1.4 percent of all cancers, 2.4 percent of all cancer deaths, and 20–25 percent of pediatric cancers. Ultimately, it is estimated that there are 13,000 deaths/year as a result of brain tumors.

From en:Tobacco and health: The World Health Organization estimated in 2002 that in developed countries, 26% of male deaths and 9% of female deaths were attributable to smoking. Similarly, the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention describes tobacco use as "the single most important preventable risk to human health in developed countries and an important cause of premature death worldwide."

Tobacco related illnesses kill approximately 438,000 USA citizens per year, about 1,205 per day, making it the leading cause of preventable death in the U.S. The World Health Organization has stated that tobacco is set to kill a billion people this century.

Gave this a try

 * Story preparation/Cell phone health scare Looks okay? Durova - (talk) 18:59, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Image credit

 * Example

 * It's a good idea to get into the habit of adding image credits for all images that appear in articles you work on - the above code would go directly after the caption in the image placement, but before the ]]. Cirt - (talk) 01:17, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reminder. I'll try to get into the habit.  There's a lot to remember, starting out.  I appreciate the assistance!  Best, Durova - (talk) 01:27, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Sorry for butting in. I also like to credit the images whenever possible, but it is only necessary when the license calls for attribution. PD images can be added without credit. --SVTCobra 01:35, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I still like to add a credit for PD images, I know it's not necessary, but it can't hurt to give credit. Cirt - (talk) 01:37, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Media reports exaggerate cell phone cancer risk
This just came out recently in The Boston Globe, and in light of the piece you wrote I thought you'd be interested. Cirt (talk) 11:06, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool, ty. :) Durova (talk) 18:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Study: Herd animals detect Earth's magnetic field
Did some reformatting for style and minor addition of text to lede paragraph, drawn from the sources. Cirt (talk) 01:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the help. :) Durova (talk) 20:07, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Yep, the site often does seem pretty inactive, but there's usually loads of users monitoring rc and chatting on IRC. (By the way, asking on IRC is often a good way to get reviews.) Thanks, Anonymous101talk 20:33, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much. I never do IRC, though. Durova (talk) 20:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Award

 * Aw, thank you very much. :) Durova (talk) 18:09, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Excessive surgeries swell Medicare costs
Hi Brian, glad to see someone besides myself is here. :) Think you could make time to give my latest article a review?  Best, Durova (talk) 08:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Just about to jump in a bath before heading off to the hospital for my torture physiotherapy. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:09, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied on your talk page while you were posting this. :) Feel better! Durova (talk) 08:10, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Dont worry about peer review
got my eyes on ya :P your pal IDangerMouse (talk) 09:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Aw, ty very much. :) Durova (talk) 09:57, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

WV
It really depends when the session is if I can join. If after 9pm UTC - no dice. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:43, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

When is it going to happen? My sleep schedules are so erratic that I was going to nap for a few hours. Can it be later in the evening? Mike Halterman (talk) 18:48, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, here's the time by time zone:

* Monday, November 3 2:00:00 PM – Los Angeles * Monday, November 3 5:00:00 PM – New York City * Monday, November 3 10:00:00 PM – London * Tuesday, November 4, 2008 at 6:00:00 AM – Beijing * Tuesday, November 4, 2008 at 9:00:00 AM - Syndey That's 2pm for me. Cary already made time to be there, so if you join a bit late we can add you in. Best, Durova (talk) 18:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know if I can do 5. Mike Halterman (talk) 18:57, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but the time is 23:00 CET (my zone). SWMBO is home and the timing is bad for me. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:11, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the replies. If this goes well maybe we'll schedule another that works better for you both. Durova (talk) 20:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't even know what WV is. Sounds interesting, though, I guess I may well join in if I know a bit more about it. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:01, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

 * I don't have a mic for Skype, so no, sorry. Besides, ten is later than I'd like to be about and I'd rather leave instalations until a weekend when I have time to pay proper attention. It does look interesting, though, I'm looking forward to seeing the result. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:12, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Microphones are optional; some people listen and respond in text. If you'd like to install and test it out sometime soon, drop me an e-mail for my Skype ID when you're ready.  Best, Durova (talk) 20:25, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I am ready to join, without microphone. I don't have your e-mail address, but mine is wikinewssvtoptonline net. --SVTCobra 22:18, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm reviewing the article. Also, I have just one question about Wikivoices 20:00 UTC is 20:00 London Time, not 22:00, which is correct? Anonymous101talk 19:55, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Just checked with a couple of British WikiVoices participants; you're absolutely right. Durova (talk) 20:01, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * So which is correct, is it 20:00 or 22:00? By the way, I've published your article. Anonymous101talk 20:04, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, 20:00. Thanks for confirming. :) Durova (talk) 20:22, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Anonymous101talk 20:43, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

US voters go to the polls
Hi Durova, I hope you are keeping an eye on the collaboration page in addition to your frequent updates to the article itself. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:26, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Will do! :) Durova (talk) 01:31, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Nominated for administrator
I have nominated you as a candidate for administrator. If you wish to be considered, please comment that you accept, under the Questions subsection in your RfA at WN:RFP. I posted another question there as well. Good luck! Cirt (talk) 23:11, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for thinking of me. :) Durova (talk) 23:20, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Sighting
Please remember to sight articles you publish, otherwise they wont show up. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 18:47, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Will do, thanks. Durova (talk) 18:52, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Successful RfA
Congratulations, you are now a Sysop! Wield your tools carefully, but don't forget to be BOLD and get involved wherever you can. One of the others will drop round the keys to the adminmobile shortly, as well as a card-key to get into the secret cabal room! If you should need / want anything - don't hesitate to ask! Again, congratulations! -- Sken   my talk 10:54, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Cirt (talk) 10:56, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats. Anonymous101talk 13:09, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ooh, thank you! (Just woke up). :) Durova (talk) 15:54, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:42, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, don't wash the Adminmobile with the mop and bucket! --Brian McNeil / talk 23:49, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Archiving
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 * Thanks :) Durova (talk) 03:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Welcome
Thanks ;) Fvasconcellos (talk) 16:05, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Soapbox Questions
I wouldn't advertise or represent forum-type material on Wikipedia whatsoever or Wikinews, but somehow my MDCCCXLVIII talkpage on Wikipedia was protected for unknown reasons (the protector said my talkpage was protected due to soapbox use). Outside of advertising and forum, what on Wikipedia would represent soapbox usage of editor talk pages or articles? Between August 15-19 I was writing the edits on that Wikipedia talkpage for my account MDCCCXLVIII due to being frustrated and incredible Wikistress and pressure. Whatever should I do the next time the stress must come at future times rather than write stuff that other Wikipedia editors may see as soapboxing? Melinda Gabrielle is my actual name/identity (nickname is Linda Gayle or Mindy). Linda Gayle is my Wikimedia Commons operating account. Mindy (talk) 01:57, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

My RfA
Just wanted to say thanks for participating in my RfA. I'll be sure to put the tools to good use. :) – Juliancolton  | Talk 18:58, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

re:Sources
I've just added a new one. Benny the mascot (talk) 01:17, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Peer review gadget
Please use the gadget next time. Elvish, Klingon and Na'vi: Constructed languages gain foothold in film was passed without being sighted. Benny the mascot (talk) 19:02, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

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Ragnarok Wisdom (abbreviated RW or less commonly RagnaWisdom) is a mouse-drawn webcomic created by Aragan the Acolyte based on the game Ragnarok Online by Gravity Corp. of South Korea. The comic began on September 21, 2002, and was originally posted on Ragnarok Online fan communities before the Ad Ultimum Network was created for hosting the comic and other sites. The webcomic does not have a plot, nor does it follow a storyline, though often there are several related comics that form a mini-series of sorts, and the characters often recall events from previous installments. The webcomic's theme centers on characters modeled after the author's in-game persona and friends, often examining the player culture that has developed in the International Ragnarok Online service, or quirks about the game itself. Therefore, like other webcomics in this vein (such as 8-Bit Theater), Ragnarok Wisdom is a parody of the topic it covers, often satirizing the player base, game mechanics, or other nuances of the game world. While generally non-offensive, some of its comics contain instances of profanity, violence, and sexual innuendo, which may make the comic unsuitable for younger audiences.

Art
The comic is known for taking a unique approach to its art--the author draws the artwork (including addition of word balloons and text) in MS Paint using a mouse, instead of drawing and coloring the images by hand, or by using a graphics tablet and image editing program such as Adobe Photoshop. However, for editing/creation of backgrounds, motion blurs, and other related "special effects," the GNU editor GIMP is often used. The webcomic's layout is reminiscent of vertical 4-koma strips; the comics are read from top to bottom. This is opposed to most other webcomics, which are read from left to right, and is therefore more accessible to readers who come from cultures that read from right to left.

Characters
Ragnarok Wisdom has a large cast of characters that sporadically appear throughout the series. Most of them are patterned after real players, often friends and guildmates of the author.

Characters part of the Crusaders of Rune-Midgard
The Crusaders of Rune-Midgard (CoRM) is the in-game guild that most of Ragnarok Wisdom's cast are members of. This guild actually exists, unofficially formed back in Ragnarok Online's Beta-1 stage (and later becoming a real guild when the guild system was implemented). However, it has been fragmented over time due to lack of cohesion among its members--often only a handful of the RW cast will play at any one time, and even then may not be part of CoRM itself. The original five members--Lunaris, Sniff the Raven, Tristan Aileron, Polarias (Neko-san), and Aragan--are sometimes referred to as the "Rainbow Wings," as this was a common party name for them in the early years.
 * Aragan the Acolyte - A slightly outlandish Acolyte and author of Ragnarok Wisdom, he is known for his catchphrase of "Mace you in the face!" and for his refusal to advance to a higher leveled class. Others refer to Aragan as a 'superaco' because of that. He often, but not always, plays the 'straight man' in most comedic setups, sometimes even behaving in intentionally bland ways that cause the other characters to shine.
 * Interestingly, many people believe Aragan's name is actually a typo, and that he really meant to name himself after Aragorn from J. R. R. Tolkien's fantasy universe of Middle-earth; this is in fact false.
 * Tristan Aileron – A Paladin and current leader of the Crusaders of Rune-Midgard, Tristan’s mild algophobia is a form of situational irony; in Ragnarok Online, Paladins (and their prerequisite class, Crusaders) have many skills involving inflicting pain upon oneself to damage foes or protect and buff allies. He has a very large family, though to date only one of his relatives appeared in the comic (Tristar). It is also suspected that Tristan actually disguises himself as some of the family members--as was discovered when Tristan attempted to masquerade as a priestess, while still wearing his bulky armor. It is this habit of playing as women that has earned him the nickname 'The WOMAN' (with capitals) among his fellows.
 * Sniff the Raven - A Swordsman (or rather, a self-styled 'warrior of the sexy') whom like Aragan has no interest in advancing to a higher leveled class. Sniff is known for eating pecopecos, screaming "CHICKEN!" upon finding one. He is also infamous for his non-stop flexing, strutting, and posing--something he often does whenever he 'fells evil' or encounters demons.
 * Lunaris - The original founder of the Crusaders of Rune-Midgard. Lunaris is a Knight, and is a rather paranoid one at that--he believes that porings are actually aliens and mean ill for all of humanity. Upon encountering them, he will either go into a bezerker-like rage or become extremely frightened. Beyond this, Lunaris has a more serious and soldier-like demeanor. He even acted as a drill sergeant for new swordsmen (which he then carried over to his treatment of fellow guildsmen).
 * While it has only been portrayed once or twice in the comic, the real Lunaris has unique ways of spelling and pronouncing some words that have caused others to dub it as 'Lunarish.'
 * Nth Power - An Alchemist, he is most infamous for the many times he's caused chaos and havoc in the world of Ragnarok Wisdom, and on its other cast members. The epitome of a prankster, Nth Power rarely feels regret for tricking his friends into falling for one of his concoctions or pranks--often with extremely bizarre and embarrassing results. Over time, the rest of the cast has become distrustful of Nth Power--leading to some situations where they were better off listening to his sincerity. It has been suggested that he is responsible for Gut Funk's spontaneous transformations into a pecopeco.
 * Tristar Aileron - A Blacksmith and brother to Tristan Aileron, he is thought to be a communist, given that he created (or at least is a vehement supporter of) the Right Season Worker's Party, which seeks to liberate Geffen from its supposedly oppressive magician class. He has not been seen in some time, in spite of a failed comic contest put forward by the author for fan artists to draw parts of a mini-series based on Tristar's disappearance.
 * Unlike most of the characters in Ragnarok Wisdom, Tristar is in game merely an alternate character of Tristar Aileron's. He is also, by account of the author and the real members of CoRM, the least accurately portrayed--until the comic influenced the real Tristar’s behavior, that is. One of his catchphrases ('GORDITAS!') is a parody of a Taco Bell advertisement campaign from the 1990's.
 * Mark Van Exel - More commonly called "MVE" for short, he is a highly lecherous Wizard who knows no bounds when it comes to ogling or hitting on women. Mark is the most common source of sexual innuendo in the comic, ranging from his runaway comparison of cities to human sexual anatomy, to starting an escort service made entirely of captured female bots. He is also known for his exclusive usage of the Frost Diver and Lightning Bolt magic spells, taking advantage of the added damage dealt by using both in succession.
 * Gut Funk - A Bard, and along with Nth Power and El Blargo, one of the most potentially dangerous characters to be around. Gut Funk has a habit of either uncontrollably transforming into a pecopeco, or exploding violently when upset or confused. Aragan exploited this to conquer a cluster of guild forts by confusing Gut Funk to the point he exploded with atomic force. Naturally, when he turns into a pecopeco, he becomes a target for Sniff the Raven's appetite. During the early years, he was unwillingly used in a Grieferette 'Dead Branch Shaver' advertisement.
 * It is documented that the real Gut Funk was the very second person to successfully become a Bard in iRO Chaos. Some dispute this claim (seeing him as the third), which Aragan has resolved by calling Gut Funk the "2.5th Bard ever on iRO Chaos."
 * Zelse - An Assassin, Zelse is the opposite of the typical stereotype that assassins have in the Ragnarok Online player culture (which was enforced by the Ragnarok: The Animation): efficient, brooding, emotionally cold killers. Zelse, unlike most assassins, is very sensitive and emotional, and often prone to bursting into tears over anything, be it pleasant or not. This has led to him flooding the world at least once (drained soon after by Nth Power's sponge cake) as well as turning the Pronteran guild fort zone into an aquarium. He has even developed unique skills based on his incessant crying (Tears of Assassination being the most prevalent). Zelse is also infamous for being handy with a toothbrush.
 * Lenz - A Thief, Lenz has eccentricities that can rival Mark Van Exel's. Throughout the comic, he buys knives that are either not meant for players (such as a taming item), or are faked replicas. At other times, he expresses peculiar sentiments that make his comrades raise an eyebrow out of bewilderment.
 * Saint Damien - Yet another priest, he styles himself as "the Lurker," based on his tendency to remain in the background (and lurk in the forums he participates in). In the comic, however, he commonly takes an active role in events. Similar to Lunaris' fear of porings, Saint Damien is deathly afraid of the lady beetle-like Brilight, whom he refers to as "Douglas."
 * Corigan - Infamous for both his affection for panties and abuse of 'alt-tabbing' (the keyboard command in Microsoft Windows that allows one to switch between active programs), which often puts whomever he is adventuring with in danger as they wind up being overwhelmed by monsters. He often stands idle in the background, and has recently attempted (and failed) to form an alt-tabbing support group based on Alcoholics Anonymous.
 * Polarias (formerly Neko-san) - A Crusader, Polarias tends to be among the among the realists of the cast, often openly questioning things in the game that normally defy biology and basic laws of physics (such as breathing underwater). In the early comics, Polarias' appearance, class and even gender changed with each comic (and each panel in one), reflecting the real Polarias' rapid creation and deletion of accounts, changing genders and starting new characters on a whim.
 * "Neko-san" was originally the name Polarias went by in the game and in the early comics (although in-game his characters would use various Japanese honorifics). It seems he chose to settle on a class and gender. He also settled on a name that was not Japanese sounding in origin. This may be due to Kawaii-chan and her satire of those who use such names in Ragnarok Online.
 * Rudolph Ravioli - Another swordsman and one of the most recent main additions to the cast, Rudolph Ravioli is randomness personified. In a similar manner to Corigan, he often plays a background role, popping in unexpectedly to spout off a non sequitur, although upon closer inspection his phrases tend to have some connection with what is happening.
 * Suzuran Majere - Although appearing as a female wizard, Suzuran is actually a man in disguise--representing the many male players who play online games (and act in online communities) as women. Alluding to the common correlation between illusory and paranormal magic, when asked by Aragan how he was able to hide the fact he was really a man, Suzuran replied "Well, they don't call us 'magicians' for nothing!"

Other Characters

 * Novvy the Novice - One of the two Novice characters in the comic, Novvy the Novice was designed to parody a player stereotype of those who have no ability to effectively communicate in English and whose only desire is to be the strongest player ever--as evidenced by his constant questing for a machine gun (a weapon which does not exist in RO).
 * Kawaii-chan - The other novice in the main cast, Kawaii-chan is also a parody of a player stereotype--specifically, those players who are self-styled otaku and are so enamored with Japanese culture that (despite the game's Korean origin) use what little Japanese they know, to the point they can no longer communicate effectively in their native language.
 * Orbonne DeArc - Also called 'Saint Bomber' (and perhaps more well known by that name), he is a Priest and is the leader of the now-defunct Prontera Parish, an early iRO community dedicated to encouraging role-play and a kinder player base. He is seen only a few times in the comic, yet is strangely listed as a main cast member. Most often he is seen with Aragan, explaining oddities about Ragnarok Online's cleric classes, or stopping him from using anything other than a mace or wand.
 * Talien - Another Priest who tends to be austere and unforgiving--this has earned him the nickname 'the Assholyte,' as he often has no tolerance for lamers and enjoys punishing them for their behavior. Except for one or two instances, he usually avoids being caught in Nth Power's pranks.
 * Although Talien appears in the comic to be part of the CoRM, in real life he never was a member; in fact, he was generally a member of the Prontera Parish and led his own guild, called the Dirty Dozen.
 * El Blargo - Another wizard, and Mark Van Exel's opposite where skills and elemental affinity are concerned. Where Mark Van Exel favors ice and water spells, El Blargo's spells are fire based. While he does not have Nth Power's record of causing mass havoc, he is still dangerous, often burning anything for the sheer fun of it.
 * Like Tristar Aileron, El Blargo is really an in game "alt" of Talien's.

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 * 1)  03:48, November 7, 2006 (diff) . . N4nojohn (Talk | contribs | block)
 * 01:13, October 31, 2006 (diff) . . BradBeattie (Talk | contribs | block) (nominated for deletion: see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ragnarok Wisdom)
 * 13:39, September 25, 2006 (diff) . . Heavens To Betsy (Talk | contribs | block) (Disambiguation link repair - You can help!)
 * 22:10, September 12, 2006 (diff) . . Jor (Talk | contribs | block) (clean up using AWB)
 * 16:27, September 3, 2006 (diff) . . Drewcifer3000 (Talk | contribs | block) (Characters part of the Crusaders of Rune-Midgard)
 * 05:01, July 21, 2006 (diff) . . 65.24.21.216 (Talk | block) (Major restructuring of article, including additional characters.)
 * 20:49, June 17, 2006 (diff) . . Adashiel (Talk | contribs | block) (removed self-referential criticism section)
 * 08:54, May 17, 2006 (diff) . . Akosygin (Talk | contribs | block) (Updated company name to reflect name changes. As per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies))
 * 02:36, April 18, 2006 (diff) . . Syrcatbot (Talk | contribs | block) (recategorization per CFD Speedy Renames (no log) using AWB)
 * 19:34, April 10, 2006 (diff) . . Dpv (Talk | contribs | block) (Disambiguation link repair - You can help!)
 * 22:47, March 27, 2006 (diff) . . Chowbok (Talk | contribs | block) (Removing "centers around" and misc. cleanup using AWB)
 * 21:48, March 8, 2006 (diff) . . 65.3.211.185 (Talk | block) (Typo correction "The webcomic is does not have a plot,". One (1) each "is" removed.)
 * 19:57, March 7, 2006 (diff) . . 65.24.21.216 (Talk | block) (Cleared vandalism.)
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umm, ok then
May I inquire how this ended in my userspace? Shouldn't it be in MessedRockers?Bawolff ☺☻ 00:46, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

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Australian soldier killed in Afghanistan

October 26, 2007 Matthew Locke, an Australian special forces soldier with the Special Air Service Regiment (SAS) has been shot and killed while taking part in a 300-man special operatives attack against the Taliban in Afghanistan. The death, Australia's third combat soldier death since the Vietnam War, is the second to occur in October.

The soldier, believed to be employed in Perth, Australia in the State of Western Australia and married with an unknown amount of children, was immediately lifted from the scene by the aero-medical helicopter evacuation team and was pronounced dead early this morning after suffering critical wounds throughout his chest. It is reported that he had received "high bravery honors" just before the battle.

Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston was quoted saying fine details of the operation, which took place in the Orūzgān Province, would not be released as it would "aid the Taliban [and] ... add to the dangers already facing our special operations troops."

"The soldier's mates reacted to the incident by extracting the soldier from further danger and providing immediate first aid. Their courage under fire and their determination to help a fallen mate is to be commended," added Houston who also stated that no other soldiers were injured or wounded during the fighting.


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Hey, thanks for fixing up my initial revision, I added a very hastily done one before I went off to bed, and it's great to see how quickly people got to it! I'm much happier that this has reached front page of wikinews now, as the last few days have been a little off... Who even cares about a Spear's rumour that she was on sesame street..?
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User talk:NathanRosseister

Hello,

Your recent contributions are considered to be spam and have been reverted or deleted. Should you believe that your contributions are not spam, please argue your case on your talk page, or in WN:ALERT.

Further spamming may result in a 24 hour block. Please contribute to Wikinews in a constructive fashion instead. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 12:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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User:Brian McNeil/Wikinews talk

= Amsterdam, October 27, 2007 - Wikimedia NL =

 * Hands up who has not edited Wikipedia.
 * Hands up who has edited Wikinews.

 * User:Brianmc/Definitive article template
 * Featured articles
 * Libertarianz discusses a free state with Wikinews
 * User:David Shankbone
 * User:DragonFire1024

 * nl:Hoofdpagina

Wikinews has "grown up" over the last 2 years, now running into issues where getting the Foundation to stand behind our original reporting is an issue.

Projects such as Chinese and Polish are popular. French wikinews has good participation and a nice looking site, fr:Accueil.

 * 33 dead, 15 injured in Virginia Tech shootings

Do you watch the news on TV, or read a newspaper? Do you follow the Netherlands equivalent of sites such as BBC News Online? Basically, do you take an interest in Current Affairs? If you do, then when you find a story that you take an interest in you should be posting it on Wikinews, in as many languages as you can.

I want to see a few people leave this conference and adopt the Nederlands Wikinews. Sure, it isn't as big, and it isn't as famous as Wikipedia. However, some of those attributes work in your favour. You're not a small fish in a big pond, and your contributions on Wikinews make a far bigger difference than on Wikipedia where they're a drop in the ocean. There is more opportunity to start and write new articles as there are new events to cover all the time.

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ISIS says target of Israeli airstrike in Syria was a nuclear facility

October 26, 2007 Researchers at the (ISIS) have stated that a building that was located inside Syria at the site where Israel launched an airstrike on, has not only been completely removed, but that it was also a  under construction.

The researchers obtained the images from and released the satellite images of the site before the airstrike and according to them, the building is a nuclear reactor. They also state that the images show a facility much like the one in North Korea at. Another image taken on October 24, shows a site where a large building used to be, the ground being wiped clean of its existence. A water-pumping station located on the was believed to be used for cooling the reactor, claim the ISIS.

"The length of the outer walls of the structures are approximately the same. From the image, the Syrian building is similar in shape to the North Korean reactor building, but the Syrian building is not far enough along in its construction to make a definitive comparison," said the institute of the study.

Syria denies that they are building any kind of nuclear facility stating "the main point is that is that the Israeli fighter jet violated the airspace of a member state of the United Nations. This is the only fact that we should focus on. The Israelis have undertaken a provocative action and they should assume the consequences."

Despite Syria's claims, the ISIS states that "dismantling and removing the building at such a rapid pace dramatically complicates any inspection of the facilities and suggests that Syria may be trying to hide what was there."

Currently, the United States denies that the satellite photos show any site inside Syria and have not commented on the images. The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) also refused to release a statement.


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User talk:65.242.250.34

Welcome
Thanks for experimenting with Wikinews. Your test worked, and has now been reverted or removed. Please use Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles may disrupt the site's working and will be reverted quickly. , welcome to Wikinews! Please refrain from using content pages for testing. Here are a few good links for newcomers on how to edit Wikinews:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 13:32, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
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What's the purpose of ' ' ? --TheFEARgod 14:12, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


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Finally, let the individual businesses make this decision, way to go Disney! Fephisto 15:25, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


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User talk:219.95.3.97

Welcome
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219.95.3.97, welcome to Wikinews! Thank you for your contributions I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
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Here are some other hints and tips:

 * I would recommend that you get a username. You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikinews, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information, and there are many benefits of having a username.  (If you edit without a username, your IP address is used to identify you instead.)

 * When using talk pages, please sign your name at the end of your messages by typing four tildes (~~). This will automatically produce your username (or IP address) and the date.

If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! Thanks for experimenting with Wikinews. Your test worked, and has now been reverted or removed. Please use Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles may disrupt the site's working and will be reverted quickly. Jcart1534 18:37, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:84.51.137.249

Welcome
Welcome!

84.51.137.249, welcome to Wikinews! Thank you for your contributions I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews:
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
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 * Introduction - overview of the site
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 * Style guide - how articles should look before publishing
 * Contents - the contents page.
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * And of course, stories need writing!

Here are some other hints and tips:

 * I would recommend that you get a username. You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikinews, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information, and there are many benefits of having a username.  (If you edit without a username, your IP address is used to identify you instead.)

 * When using talk pages, please sign your name at the end of your messages by typing four tildes (~~). This will automatically produce your username (or IP address) and the date.

If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! Thanks for experimenting with Wikinews. Your test worked, and has now been reverted or removed. Please use Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles may disrupt the site's working and will be reverted quickly. Jcart1534 18:38, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:Wit~enwikinews

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! First off, we really appreciate your contribution.
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
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 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * Audio Wikinews could always use more contributors
 * And of course, stories need writing!

But sometimes users submit an article from somewhere else, not realizing that Wikinews cannot keep copy-and-paste versions of articles which are published elsewhere under a restrictive copyright. An article created in this way is a copyright violation, and Wikinews policy is to erase these even if they are excellent article ideas.

Another problem which sometimes comes up is press releases: Press releases are sometimes excellent sources, but they do not qualify as unbiased news articles so they can't be published as they are. Two key things to remember about press releases is that they're usually written to represent the viewpoint of an involved party (Thus likely running foul of our Neutral Point of View policy). And second, they are generally covered by copyright which can conflict with our open editing approach.

A better way to get an article on an exciting subject published here is to write an original article following the guidelines described in writing an article, or to write a brief explanation of the subject and include the url address of articles or websites to use as sources. If you are part of the story that the article is about, you may also wish to consider requesting an interview rather than writing the article yourself.

Thanks again! Jcart1534 19:01, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:Symode09/Speech

I have no idea what this speech is for, or who you are speaking to. Anyways, I thought i'd give my thoughts (constructive critism) on it as i saw it on recent changes, and I like unsolicitedly commenting on things. (But this is your speech, for some purpose I am totally unaware of, so my thoughts quite possibly are invalid as i don't really know the context).

Wikinews, like Wikipedia can be edited by anyone and, is based on the wiki mark-up language. In this day of sponsorship and syndication, it is almost impossible to find the latest news while knowing what you are reading is not just hearsay. On Wikinews, we have a team of committed contributors who regularly contribute and help to writing the latest news. Now when I say they are committed I mean that literally. I am talking about people sacrificing their girlfriends and boyfreinds, for people who stay up until 4am just to report on breaking news. These people are so committed to Wikinews, without it, they would pretty much be lifeless amoebas. I'm not sure which audience you are presenting to, but be careful with that last line. Depending on what your audience is, they may interpert that differently then you intend.

Many people ask, what makes Wikinews so good? Why should I go to the Wikinews website rather then the Reuters or the msn website. There are three reasons. Firstly, Wikinews contributors have already been to these websites, along with dozens more to find the best and highest of quality information to allow readers to get accurate and interesting reports. Secondly, in this world of syndications, as soon as there is a report on reuters.com, hundreds of thousands of other websites automatically post the same story. Simply go into any Google news subject and, at least half the stories are identical. Finally, break away from the pack! Instead of getting the same old news day in and day out, get something a bit more interesting, a bit more in depth, a bit higher in quality and, one of the only free news sources on the web.
 * Msn isn't really a brand associated with news, perhaps saying a generic internet portal, or mentioning some other news website would be more effective. I'm not 100% sure if Firstly is a real word, maybe First of all, or primarily would be better. You may want to go into more detail on how wikinews is better depending on audience.

Now, many people say how fair and balanced fox news is, I thought I might test how they treat professionals who they are interviewing. (play video 2) Be careful about ganging up too much on fox (although again this depends on audience).

You may be wondering why we are so comparing wikinews which is in print to fox news which is on tv. Today I have some good news. For the first time, we are publically acknoleging our work on wikinews video which should be coming out soon and unlike any other news souce, it will be the first free and unfree video news to be available on so many mediums. Videos will be available on MSN video, youtube, rss feeds, podcasts, the commons and on the wikinews sites. There will be one distinct difference between wikinews and the video edition - the video edition will have a deep look into one issue and have proper inverviews rather then many badly produced
 * First, Wikinews video has been publicly announced before (Broadcast, previous wikinews video stuff), so it isn't the first announcement. "it will be the first free and unfree video news to be available on so many mediums." Something can't be both free and unfree. I highly doubt it will be on the most mediums of anything. In fact I only count two mediums on that list, and I know news that has been published in more mediums then that (RSS feeds and podcast are essentially the same. Youtube msn video, commons, Google video, and what have you are all the same posting on an internet site to be viewed as a webpage).Bawolff ☺☻ 21:10, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:193.108.73.47

Hi, your entry on Shomelata has been tagged for deletion. Wikinews is for writing news article. See our introduction page for more information. Thanks. JoshuaZ 21:26, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:209.240.64.163

Welcome
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 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
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 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
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Here are some other hints and tips:

 * I would recommend that you get a username. You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikinews, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information, and there are many benefits of having a username.  (If you edit without a username, your IP address is used to identify you instead.)

 * When using talk pages, please sign your name at the end of your messages by typing four tildes (~~). This will automatically produce your username (or IP address) and the date.

If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! Bawolff ☺☻ 21:51, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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FEMA employees pose as fake reporters during press conference

October 26, 2007 The United States Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is under fire after the agency held a fake press conference with fake news reporters in regards to individuals affected by the California wildfires and the assistance they could receive.

The agency called a press conference on Tuesday, giving the press only 15 minutes to show up. When many did not, FEMA brought in agency officials to pose as fake reporters and ask questions. The option for reporters to call into the conference was also available, but the ones who did call in only got to listen to the press conference, and could not ask questions. No reporters were actually present during the conference, parts of which were carried live on Fox News and MSNBC.

During the briefing, FEMA employees asked Deputy Administrator Harvey Johnson a series of what The New York Times called "decidedly friendly questions" such as "What type of commodities are you pledging to California?", "What lessons learned from Katrina have been applied?" and "Are you happy with FEMA's response so far?". The briefing followed the format of a press conference, with FEMA's press secretary at one point cautioning that he would allow just "two more questions", then calling later for a "last question". Officials who posed as fake reporters included the deputy director of public affairs Cindy Taylor and Director of External Affairs John "Pat" Philbin.

White House officials said that they do not condone FEMA's actions and also state that they had no idea that the conference was taking place.

"FEMA has issued an apology, saying that they had an error in judgment when they were attempting to get out a lot of information to reporters, who were asking for answers to a variety of questions in regard to the wildfires in California. It's not something I would have condoned. And they — I'm sure — will not do it again," said Dana Perino, the White House's press secretary in a statement.

FEMA apologizes for the mishap and says that their intentions were only to get the information to the citizens of California.

"[The purpose was] to get information out as soon as possible, and in trying to do so we made an error in judgment. Our intent was to provide useful information and be responsive to the many questions we have received. We can and must do better," said Harvey E. Johnson, the agency's vice administrator. "The real story -- how well the response and recovery elements are working in this disaster -- should not be lost because of how we tried to meet the needs of the media in distributing facts," a FEMA statement said.

FEMA is currently deciding whether or not any officials should face punishment for the incident. One of the officials responsible, Pat Philbin, is going on to be the new head of public relations for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

This is not the first time that the Bush administration has come under fire for planting reporters at press conferences. In February of 2005, White House reporter Jeff Gannon was accused of being planted to ask softball questions to President Bush. FEMA itself had earlier undergone criticism during Hurricane Katrina for using disaster workers for public relations in 2005.


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Canadian burglars face 355 charges

October 26, 2007

A trio of fast food robbers have been charged today by Toronto Police after a one year investigation over their Greater Toronto Area (GTA) fast food restaurant robberies, which have been carrying on since November 2006.

Their many successful break-ins were from the help of a police scanner, two-way radios, and other tools including an oversized cardboard box.

Police say one of the trio's members hid in a box while using a glass-cutter to cut through the front door of a restaurant. The two others monitored the area using a police scanner and two-way radios in case of police. The thieves also usually managed to disable any alarm systems. When the thief broke-in he/she would crawl on the floor until they found their desired destination, the cash-registers, then take all the money they wanted, and then discretely leave.

Police said the three were finally caught after responding to an unrelated call.

The names of the robbers are Gordon Michael Edwards, 27, Jason Richard Phillips, 25, and Donna Hofscheier, 23. They face a total of 355 charges for over 200 robberies totalling CAD250,000.

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Although I don't condone it, I congratulate the robbers for coming up with such a cunning plan. --TUFKAAP 22:52, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I concur. I wonder how they were caught in the end... And if it took around a year to catch them, they must be really good! --Nzgabriel | Talk 01:09, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I added how they got caught. Yes, they must have been pretty darn good at their job, even though it was bad.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 01:21, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


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Pong
DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:55, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Note about sourcing for Gannon
The point about Gannon was brought up here at Mark Hoofnagle's blog which is what prompted me to note it in the article. I'm not sure if Hoofnagle's observation should be credited directly in the article or not. Input in that regard would be good. JoshuaZ 00:49, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Title is misleading
editprotected They weren't posing as fake reporters; they were fake reporters, and they were posing as real reporters. Angr (talk) 16:16, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd agree. WN:ARCHIVE means we won't be changing the title; I'll leave a protected edit request here to attract more eyes to the issue of if we should issue a correction. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:49, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * An interesting case from the days of self-publish. It's easy for the author to just not see stuff like this; two other registered users added to the article, but nobody was specifically charged with checking others' work for problems.

 * Although readers will likely be suspicious when they read the headline, and realize the error when they read the lede, it seems appropriate for us to acknowledge the problem. I've suggested a correction, but not sighted the edit.  --Pi zero (talk) 17:20, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Sighted. I guess that wraps this up. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:47, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

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edit protected Please add this article to Category:MSNBC. Thank you. Green Giant (talk) 13:07, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 14:24, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


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Leaked emails show UK RAF were aware of Nimrod problems prior to fatal crash

October 26, 2007 Leaked emails have revealed that the United Kingdom's Royal Air Force (RAF) were aware of a dangerous problem with fuel leaking from Nimrod MR2 surveillance aircraft long before one exploded in midair during a mission in Kandahar, Afghanistan. All 14 people on board were killed in the crash in September last year.

Graham Knight, father of Sergeant Ben Knight, who died in the accident aged 25, told reporters that he had received internal RAF emails detailing prior concerns about the fuel leak problems on the Nimrod. One email originally sent on December 2, 2005 commented that “XV230 [the tail number of the Nimrod that would go on to crash] has fuel-leak issues which need to be rectified before the aircraft can be deployed.” Another, from February 2006, had the following to say: “The age of the airframe, combined with the aggressive tempo with which we are flying the jets in stark temperature shifts, is contributing to our leak headache.”

Another email later the same month highlighted the serious nature of the problem: “Fuel leaks on the Nimrod MR2 aircraft now pose a significant threat to the force being able to meet commitments and operational tasking.”

The emails were quietly forwarded to Knight, who has gone public with them via Sky News. “I have evidence that a fuel leak caused the crash and the Service was fully aware of the risk months beforehand. I believe the RAF killed my son,” he said.

He said that the emails were all written by senior members of the RAF, adding “there are so many people within the organisation who are not happy with what has been going on.”

"The more I have dug, the deeper the conspiracy gets - essentially, I think the major failures have been down to communication problems."

A board of inquiry has recently completed deliberating the cause of the accident, with a final report expected in about two weeks time. It is expected by many that the report will find a fuel leak was to blame. The crash was the largest loss of life from any UK service in a single incident since the Falklands war. Although the report will determine the cause of the crash and make recommendations to prevent it's recurrence, it will not attempt to establish blame for the disaster.

The Ministry of Defence (MoD) had previously admitted they were experiencing Nimrod fuel leaks, saying in January that in the six months proceeding there had been no less than 25 fuel leaks in RAF Nimrod aircraft. Nimrods were grounded after the crash, but were subsequently phased back into operation, and are currently back in full service flying regular reconnaissance missions in Afghanistan.

The MoD's response to these recent allegations was as follows: "RAF Nimrod aircraft are designed and certified to strict airworthiness and safety standards.

"If we didn't have confidence in the aircraft, we would not continue to fly them.

"Nimrod has a good safety record and remains a potent and respected aircraft.

"The Board of Inquiry to establish the cause of the accident last September is continuing and it would be unhelpful to speculate on the outcome until the board's findings are published."

All 12 of the crewmembers on board were from 102 Squadron at RAF Kinloss, Scotland. The loss was so large as in to have an adverse affect on the air base. The other two personnel on board were a marine and a solider.

"An aircraft should not suddenly burst into a ball of flames in mid-air,” Knight commented. He has been conducting his own investigation based on documentation obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. One important document is a recommendation made by BAE Systems in 2004 following a safety audit that concluded that it would be impossible to extinguish a fire on a Nimrod. The recommendation was to install a fire detection system. It was never acted upon.


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Elderly couple found slain in scrapyard in Staffordshire, England

October 27, 2007 Bodies of an elderly couple have been found in Barlows scrapyard in Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, United Kingdom. BBC reports the bodies were found on Friday night.

A 29-year-old man was the only person at the scrapyard when police and ambulance crews arrived and has now been arrested as a suspect.

The scene has been cordoned off by police.

"The bodies remain in situ and the scene has been cordoned off and a forensic examination has begun," a police spokesman said at 17:30 BST, "It is expected that post-mortem examinations will be carried out (Saturday)."


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