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Darwin and Sumatra rocked by offshore earthquakes

November 21, 2005

An offshore earthquake shook buildings in Darwin in Australia's Northern Territory today, and an earthquake with a magnitude of at least 6.2 struck off the coast of Sumatra yesterday, triggering a tsunami alert.

Geoscience Australia says the offshore quake registered 5.3 on the Richter scale. No damage has been reported in the city of Darwin or the community of Port Keats which is the nearest town to the quake's epicentre in a region known for its moderate seismicity. The quake's epicentre was located 500 kilometres west-north-west of Darwin in the Banda Sea. The earthquake hit at 9.51am (CDT).

Geoscience Australia (the government's geological organisation) says the region may be unstable for a few days and aftershocks or another quake may be felt. Duty seismologist, Dr Svetan Sinadinovski, says it was a shallow quake and the subterranean make-up of the area allowed the tremor waves to travel to Darwin without losing much energy. He says the quake was on Australia's continental shelf, which is a common place for seismic activity.

"That is the area where Australian plate collides with Asian plate and that extends through the Indonesian islands up to Sumatra and Thailand in the north and east through PNG to Tonga and New Zealand," he said. "Preliminary reports point to a 5 to 6 in the Darwin region - this means that the earthquake would have been felt by almost everyone indoors according to the Modified Mercali Scale which measures the impact of seismic waves on structures."

"People would have felt this earthquake up to 500km away from the epicentre, and we have heard numerous reports of residents in the Darwin area having felt the effects of the event," he said.

Among those who felt the quake were participants involved in the trial of Bradley John Murdoch in the Northern Territory Supreme Court in Darwin - where chairs and TVs shook in the court building.

The Bureau of Meteorology's Darwin office was also shaken, but no reports of damage have been received by police.

"We felt it - I felt the building sway and some of the monitors shook a little," the bureau's duty forecaster, Billy Lynch, said. "We are on the third floor of a three-story building."

Sumatra Earthquake
An earthquake with a magnitude of at least 6.2 struck off the coast of Sumatra yesterday, triggering a tsunami alert, officials said. There were no immediate reports of a tsunami, damages or casualties. The quake's epicenter was located off Simeulue, 160 miles southwest of Medan on Sumatra's northwest coast, according to the U.S. Geological Survey(USGS).

Indonesia's Meteorology and Geophysics Agency put the quake's magnitude at 6.2, whilst the USGS said the magnitude was 6.5. The quake rocked nearby Nias island and was felt in Medan, said an official from the Indonesian agency's Jakarta office.

Simeulue island is near the epicenter of the December 26 quake that caused a massive tsunami. The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center in Hawaii said there was no threat of a tsunami to Pacific coastlines, but quakes of this size can sometimes generate local tsunamis along coasts near the epicenter.

Sumatra has been affected by strong aftershocks since the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake. Experts say the fault line is unstable and may produce another massive quake soon.

Other earthquakes
The biggest earthquake to strike the region, in 1998, had a magnitude of 6.9. The largest earthquake ever recorded was in Chile in 1960. This magnitude 9.5 earthquake resulted in the death of 5,000 people. In 1976 a smaller 8.0 earthquake in China caused the death of an estimated 255,000 people. More recently, in December 2003 an earthquake in Iran resulted in the death of approximately 50,000 people.

Geoscience Australia said the 5.3 quake did not generate a tsunami. The 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, which had a magnitude of 9.0, triggered a series of lethal tsunamis on December 26, 2004 that killed over 270,000 people, making it the deadliest tsunami in recorded history.

In March 2005 another strong earthquake rocked parts of Darwin, with tremors lasting several minutes felt across the city and rural areas. The quake measured 7.2 on the Richter scale, and its epicentre was 500 kilometres east north-east of East Timor in the Banda Sea.


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Talk:Darwin and Sumatra rocked by offshore earthquakes

local tagging?
earthquakes happen around the world all the time and it appears nobody got injured so. and it happend in indonesia. what the 5th most populated country in the world? and darwin is the headline? ima from australia and i know this is wrong.--Whywhywhy 11:47, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

I dont understand what you are saying. Why has the article been removed?--elliot_k 13:07, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

 * The correct tag is .  Not sure if this should be excluded or not, so I've just corrected it to match Whywhywhy's wishes. Brian McNeil / talk 13:23, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

 * yyy - Perhaps your'e referring to the Australia-centric POV of the article. I'm still searching for more Indonesian and Papau info... Will refresh the story if and when I find more sources. Lack of media outlets in the region mean not much else is available besides the Aussie gear. Cheers, --elliot_k 14:55, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I was surprised it showed up on the main page even with the local only category, but it previously wasn't showing up because the date was mis-formatted. Based on Whywhywhy's comment it might be better to rename to something descriptive of the location of the earthquake (sea/ocean/nearest landmass) and mention its effects being felt in Darwin.  Good luck on your search for sources. Brian McNeil / talk 15:03, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

There's no reason to keep this article off the main page at the moment because the entire Wiki is only producing about five articles a day. It is a well-written and comprehensive article, and in my opinion we should be showing it off, not hiding it. - Borofkin 23:19, 21 November 2005 (UTC)


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But sometimes users submit an article from somewhere else, not realizing that Wikinews cannot keep copy-and-paste versions of articles which are published elsewhere under a restrictive copyright. An article created in this way is a copyright violation, and Wikinews policy is to erase these even if they are excellent article ideas.

Another problem which sometimes comes up is press releases: Press releases are sometimes excellent sources, but they do not qualify as unbiased news articles so they can't be published as they are. Two key things to remember about press releases is that they're usually written to represent the viewpoint of an involved party (Thus likely running foul of our Neutral Point of View policy). And second, they are generally covered by copyright which can conflict with our open editing approach.

A better way to get an article on an exciting subject published here is to write an original article following the guidelines described in writing an article, or to write a brief explanation of the subject and include the url address of articles or websites to use as sources. If you are part of the story that the article is about, you may also wish to consider requesting an interview rather than writing the article yourself.

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Hi David, thanks for the message on the talk page about the F1 article, I'd really like to see this up as I'm (a) In Belgium, and (b) Quite like F1. However, as a non-copyright expert I'll offer you my two cents that might help get this up.
 * First off, if you can stick a copyright message on your article or site that allows derivative works that'd be great and the main item to deal with in reproducing your work here. However, that's going to make headaches for you on your site as a license sufficiently open to suit use here would likely open up the risks of others copying your content and using it for their own commercial sites.  As an administrator on a non-Wikipedia associated site that sort of thing would make my blood boil (Seeing something I'd written making someone else advertising revenue).
 * Second, The Infamous NPOV :-). That's covered in the comments that come in the above boilerplate welcome message, and it could – for your article – be interpreted as "don't say anything nasty about Bernie without trying to give him a chance for a rebuttal".  I'm not a regular follower of sports journalism, but I can accept it may be more relaxed in it's reporting style but this is one of our key rules.  My take on it is if the article would be problematic for the BBC to run, then we shouldn't run it either.
 * Lastly, if you're pressed for time on this, and are looking mainly for a link to your own article, then summarise the whole thing down into a couple of two or three sentence paragraphs and the odds of it being objected to are minimal - unless someone decides to be anal about a second source. In which case, we do have some French-speaking contributors who could verify your contributions from a French source.

I hope you find these comments useful in bringing your story to Wikinews. Brian McNeil / talk 18:14, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

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Sri Lankan president appoints fellow hardliner as PM

November 21, 2005

The recently elected president of Sri Lanka, Mahinda Rajapakse, has upset some with the appointment of a fellow hardliner, Ratnasiri Wickremanayake, as the country's Prime Minister. The Sinhala nationalist, Mr. Wicremanayake, is a former holder of the post during Chandrika Kumaratunga's presidency in 2000 and 2001.

Most noticeably hit by the news were the country's stock markets. Markets in Colombo fell 7% on the news, having fallen by the same amount last Friday when Mr. Rajapaskse's election result was announced.

Mr. Rajapakse was elected as the President on an anti Tamil Tiger platform. He formed an alliance with two Sinhala Buddhist extremist parties, JVP and JMU. Civil war in the country between the majority and the Tamil population is claimed to have led to over 65,000 deaths since 1983.


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In other news, you have been blocked for 24h due to repeated article vandalism. --Deprifry|+T+ 14:10, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Hello again. Seeing as you are continuing right where you left, I've have to ask you if you are looking for another block? --Deprifry|+T+ 12:12, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

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Myanmar Junta threatened with sanctions by UN body

November 21, 2005

The UN International Labour Organisation (ILO) has warned the generals that make up the military government of Myanmar, more commonly known as Burma, that they may face sanctions should they not improve their record over forced labour.

The call to change policy and attitudes towards forced labour that the ILO issued following a meeting of their governing body in Geneva late last week was countered by promises from the regime that they would not withdraw from the organisation.

The warning issued by the ILO has been followed by calls from the EU for the Security Council and Secretary General of the UN to get involved in efforts to reform the country. The EU Parliament passed its resolution on Burma by a significant majority, only three members opposed and two abstained.


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US military admits to accidentally killing Iraqi child

November 26, 2005

U.S. forces accidentally fired upon on a civilian vehicle north of Baghdad on Monday, killing at least one child and 2 other people, a military spokesperson has said.

The incident occurred when an American soldier spotted the vehicle moving in an erratic fashion outside a base in Baqouba. American soliders fired warning shots before shooting at the vehicle, according to U.S. military spokesman Maj. Steven Warren.

Dr. Ahmed Fouad, a doctor at the city morgue, later claimed that the death toll was higher, and three children were killed. Military sources claim that the extra casualties may in fact have come from a car bomb targeting American soldiers in the same area at the same time, which killed five civilians and wounded twelve others.


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International exhibit of chair art starts in Canada

November 21, 2005

The international entry show SAT: An Exhibit of Chairs was put on display Friday in Brampton, Ontario, Canada. Held in the Fridge Front Gallery at the mall, SAT is a diverse collection of artworks focusing on a generally mundane object, the.

Works in the show range from realism to abstract, dadaism to surrealism, post-modern to collage.

While some of the entries were submitted directly to, most came from a previous exhibit. Organized by Pati Bristow, No place to rest, chairs you can't sit on ran at Shopping Trolley Gallery West and Seaman's Library at Foothill College, both in Los Altos Hills, California, earlier in 2005. Guest curator Nicholas Moreau was unaware of the similarly themed exhibit, held so soon before. The theme for SAT was based on that of a 1987 juried art show organized by Visual Arts Brampton at the now-defunct Chinguacousy Library Gallery.

Works in Visual Arts Brampton's showing of the exhibition are from 17 countries including Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Norway, Pakistan, Romania, Spain, Uruguay, the United Kingdom, and the United States of America.

This is Visual Arts Brampton's third mail art show. In 1999, Susan Williamson created The Great Canadian Mail Art Show for Artway at Bramalea City Centre; the show was so successful that the Art Gallery of Peel adopted it in 2001. The concept of a mail art show was revived in 2004 by Moreau, held at the new Artway Shoppers World. The Snail Mail World Postcard Art Show has been held annually since.

Visual Arts Brampton's Fridge Front Gallery primarily hosts artwork by youth from its kids classes, and from schools in Brampton and. In contrast, the nearby Artway Gallery hosts artwork by professional and amateur adult artists from across. VAB has successfully sought permission to create a third display space in Shoppers World, in the corridor. The space will host shows of mail art and works on paper year-round. The planned "World Art Gallery" will be the first ever permanent display space for mail art.


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First off, we really appreciate your contribution.

But sometimes users submit an article from somewhere else, not realizing that Wikinews cannot keep copy-and-paste versions of articles which are published elsewhere under a restrictive copyright. An article created in this way is a copyright violation, and Wikinews policy is to erase these even if they are excellent article ideas.

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AP?
I was under the impression that AP stories could be reproduced as long as they were kept as the source... no?

 * No. Associated Press stories are copyrighted. Unless you pay for their content you can't reproduce the articles. --Deprifry|+T+ 19:25, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Ah, well... lesson learned... sorry about that. I don't really have time to completely re-write the article right now, but maybe I'll come back to it when the story has concluded and I have a bit more time.  Sorry for the trouble.

 * No problem at all --Deprifry|+T+ 19:31, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

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Template talk:2003 Iraq pre-war intelligence infobox

Right, first off the Cindy Sheehan story(ies) should go from this infobox. That means removing the category from them. Second, the external links needs cleaned up for two reasons. First, we shouldn't be linking to non Wiki if we can help it, and things like the Christian Science Monitor story are editorials. Big no-no. What goes there should ideally be links to Wikipedia or WikiSource stuff. The only external link I can think of offhand that would fit is the fact that the BBC has (somewhere) a transcript of a Bush speech that is central to building a case for deception.

Hopefully these are comments to work towards a constructive revision that won't come up for a deletion request in a week or two's time. Brian McNeil / talk 20:38, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the input. I disagree that the category should go from the infobox, as this will make it very dificult to maintain it. My guess is that there will be more articles in this category coming, as "phase two" of the investigation of the senate intelligence committee, that is the one that is supposed to look into mishandling of intelligence information, is supposed to begin soon. Thus I suggest to clean up the corresponding category. People were probably not aware that adding the category to articles that are only marginally relevant (if at all), will pop up in the infobox. Thus I would like to remove the category from the sheehan and the bolton articles. They are locked now, but an administrator should be able to do this, right? As this is a clearcut decision, I don't think it requires any further discussion.

 * I will start working on the links section. --vonbergm 21:02, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I've removed all external links (with the exception of the Wikipedia article, which is where all the links should go anyways). Reason being, they are unnecessary for a category box - including transcripts, etc.  The WP article should include all items needed to know about the ordeal - and if the article doesn't include it, add it in yourself or ask someone else to.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 21:45, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean remove the category from the infobox, I meant from articles where the link to the category wasn't strong. If there are protected articles this needs to come off of, try WN:ALERT once you've built a list as this can only be done by an admin, I don't think you're going to get any objections to listing things that need the category taken off them. Brian McNeil / talk 21:56, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I disagree with your (MrM) reasoning. Keeping the official documents in the infobox provides a solid base that can be used to check articles against. This helps keeping articles in this inherently contrivercial category NPOV. As these are only the very basic sources on this topic, most articles will not link to the official documents but only link to articles and documents that look at certain sub-issues. Then the official documents help to keep things in perspective. I would like to hear more opinions on this.

 * I do not mind removing the original link to the DSM as it is also linked in the wikipedia article. Also, the Knight-Ridder special report can go, but it provides a very good summary of the developments that I have not seen on any other site. --vonbergm 22:03, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Wiki sources
Having had a second look at all the source items the infobox used to link to, I think the biggest problem was the completely different look on all of them. That's what makes links to Wikipedia good. There is a wikisource project, but I don't know what issues you'd have to address there to get the previously linked to material up. I went through the articles with the category a bit and even saw one with "Wackynews" on it. Perhaps the infobox would be better managed without a category and manually maintained with a list of articles that are indisputably on the topic and well written. For future articles any other story that merited the infobox and an article not in the infobox could have that added under a "Recent news" section. Brian McNeil / talk 23:08, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I disagree. First of all, the look is not so different. All at links to pdf files that are official reports. Since different organizations were doing these, the layout is slightly different, but certainly not completely different and not even to the degree where an asthetic argument would outweigh others. Cleaning up the category is a good idea, removing the category is not as it defies the purpose of having an infobox. For manually managed links we could just use the "related links" section as usual.

 * Removing all external links as done by MrM seems also pointless. From MrM's statement it is not clear what the logic is. Is MrM saying that infoboxes should only link to Wikipedia articles and not other documents? Phrased categorically like this the statement seems silly. Preferring Wikipedia links in general is a good idea, but in this case many of the relevant Wikipedia articles are flaged NPOV or designated for cleanup. Thus I feel that linking to the original source is more useful for Wiknews.

 * I feel that the overall strategy put forward by some is not to clean up the infobox and find meaningful contend for it but to reduce it ad absurdum. If you have voted to get rid of the infobox and failed, don't edit all content out to make it fail that way. If you don't want to participate constructively in developing the infobox, just post your concerns and give some indication how they could be met on the talk page. For reference, the old version --vonbergm 03:05, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Agreed. To be perfectly Frank, since it is perfectly obvious that there is no legitimate reason to delete this template, those who voted to delete this template, by so doing, made it perfectly clear that they do not intend to "provide access to users", "make it easier to find things", or in any way work towards making information on this topic more available, accessible, etc.  They have made it clear that they intend rather to obstruct access and availability, which is the exact opposite of the purpose of wikinews.    No such edit to this page moves it in the direction of wikinew's goals, and therefore none should be made.  Said users should abstain.  They have demonstrated that they cannot keep their emotions under control and make changes dictated by critical thinking. Kevin Baastalk 21:33, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

 * And Brian, if you could go back and return the category inclusion to the pages that you removed it from, that would be very helpful. If you want to take part in the wiki-process, you can discuss removals on this discussion page.  I'm sure I don't need to tell you that your removals were very excessive. Thank you. Kevin Baastalk 21:36, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Reasons for issues.
On Wikipedia, were I to create the category/infobox "Christian invasions" or "Pogroms of Russia" these would both be deleted as NPOV, because they are. By collecting only articles about negative aspects of a given entity you create a false impression of culpability which is a point of view, and which may be at odds with the mass of articles about the entity itself. Similarly, creating a class of documents based on a not-news category and ignoring all other stories which might be relevant to a judgement is in violation of the NPOV policies.

Further, the category in question was deleted in accordance with the deletion policies, and has not undergone an undeletion request. -  Amgine | talk 22:08, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

see http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Deletion_requests/Archives/Passed_Archive_4#Template:2003_Iraq_pre-war_intelligence_infobox_.28Undeletion_request.29

Bawolff ☺☻ 23:44, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Bawolff, sorry to disappoint you. After the initial deletion of the infobox, the category was listed for deletion which passed with a 'wide concensus' of one (1) vote. Now, I guess it was forgotten to be listed for undeletion alongside with the infobox. But in the end it does not matter, since the very same people that voted for the deletion of the infobox are now suddenly very interested in it and insist that it should contain only -- lets see what is left -- a link to the downing street memo on wikinews. If you want to go for endless discussion to get a useful infobox out of this, good luck. But starting with listing the category for undeletion is a good start. I am too frustrated with the way this goes (see above), but if you feel that this is going anywhere, let me know and I will help out again. --vonbergm 01:10, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Amgine, alright but presumably any infobox deletion ought to usually differ to a larger category which an infobox could be created for, like "religious invasions" for example. Here I expect pre-war stories could just be put into an old Iraq war info box, no?

 * Nyarlathotep: Yes, the Iraq War is a news event which both does have a category and should. -  Amgine | talk 03:28, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I tried to bring the category up for undeletion but I do not think I did it correctly. Neutralizer 15:15, 24 November 2005 (UTC)


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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

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  March 1, 2005 In a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled today, in Roper v. Simmons, that it is unconstitutional to impose capital punishment on those who committed crimes while juveniles. Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion to overturn the death penalty for juveniles, which was also supported by Justices John Paul Stevens, David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer. Dissenting were Justices Antonin Scalia, William Rehnquist, and Clarence Thomas, with Justice Sandra Day O'Connor providing a separate dissent.

Christopher Simmons received the death sentence for brutally kidnapping and murdering Shirley Crook as part of a burglary. The case worked its way up the court system, with the courts continuing to uphold the death sentence. However, in light of a 2003 U.S. Supreme Court ruling, in Atkins v. Virginia, that overturned the death penalty for the mentally retarded, the Missouri Supreme Court reconsidered Mr. Simmon's case. It concluded that "a national consensus has developed against the execution of juvenile offenders" and sentenced Mr. Simmons to life imprisonment without parole.

The case eventually made its way to the Supreme Court, where it was argued on October 13, 2004. The constitutionality of capital punishment for juveniles was put into question, citing the Eighth Amendment that protects individuals from cruel and unusual punishment.

Previously, a 1988 Supreme Court decision Thompson v. Oklahoma barred execution of offenders under the age of 16. In 1989 Stanford v. Kentucky brought into question the constitutionality of execution for those under age 18. At the time the Supreme Court upheld the possibility of capital punishment for offenders who are 16 or 17 years old when they committed the capital offense. The same day in 1989 the Supreme Court ruled it was permissible to execute the mentally retarded in Penry v. Lynaugh. However, in 2003, the decision was reconsidered in Atkins v. Virginia citing that decency standards had evolved and execution of the mentally retarded was now considered to be cruel and unusual punishment and thus unconstitutional.

Roper v. Simmons brought the age issue to the table again. In question is whether it is Constitutionally permissible to execute an offender who committed a capital crime while under the age of 18. As in the issue of executing the mentally retarded, the Supreme Court has now decided that society’s standards have evolved since the 1989 case and that it is indeed cruel and unusual punishment to execute a juvenile, under age 18.

Supporting this ‘’evolving standard’’, is the body of scientific and sociological research1 that finds juveniles have a lack of maturity and sense of responsibility, compared to adults. Adolescents are overrepresented statistically in virtually every category of reckless behavior. In recognition of the comparative immaturity and irresponsibility of juveniles, almost every State prohibits those under age 18 from voting, serving on juries, or marrying without parental consent. Juveniles are also more vulnerable to negative influences and outside pressures, including peer pressure. They have less control, or experience with control, over their own environment. They also lack the freedom that adults have, in escaping a criminogenic setting.

Another key basis to support the “national consensus” on the death penalty for juveniles, is the increasing infrequency that it is applied at the state level. While 20 states have the juvenile death penalty on the books, only six states have executed prisoners for crimes committed as juveniles, since 1989. And, just three states have done so in the past 10 years: Oklahoma, Texas, and Virginia. Furthermore, five of the states that allowed the juvenile death penalty at the time of the 1989 case have since abolished it. Thus, the execution of juveniles is indeed becoming increasingly unusual in the United States and a “national consensus” has developed.

In evaluating whether penalties violate the Eighth Amendment prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment, the Supreme Court has taken guidance from the law of foreign countries and international bodies. Since 1990, only seven other countries – Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Nigeria, the Democratic Republic of Congo, and China – have executed juveniles. Since then, however, each of those seven countries has either abolished the death penalty for juveniles or made public disavowal of the practice. Now, one finds the stark reality that the United States stand alone, as the only country in the world that continues to allow execution of juveniles. Furthermore, only the United States and Somalia have yet to ratify Article 37 of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (September 2, 1990), expressly prohibits capital punishment for crimes committed by juveniles.

In drawing the line at 18 years of age for death eligibility, the Supreme Court considered that is also where society draws the line between childhood and adulthood for a multitude of other purposes.

Both the Scalia dissent, joined by Rehnquist and Thomas, and Justice O’Connor’s separate dissent put into question whether a “national consensus” had indeed formed among the state laws. In addition, Scalia also objects to taking guidance from foreighn law in interpreting the Constitution.

Implications of this ruling, are particularly felt in the State of Virginia, where it is now most certain that Lee Boyd Malvo will not face the death penalty. He is responsible in-part, along with John Allen Muhammad, for the DC Sniper Attacks that terrorized the Washington DC area in October 2002. He had already been spared the death penalty in his first trial, for the murder of FBI employee, Linda Franklin, outside a Home Depot store in Falls Church, Virginia. However, Mr. Malvo is also set to face trial in Prince William County, Virginia for another murder, and yet to face trial in Louisiana and elsewhere for other killings. In light of today's Supreme Court decision, the prosecutors in Prince William County may not pursue the charges against Mr. Malvo, after all. The primary reason for extraditing these two suspects from Maryland, where they were arrested, to Virginia, was in fact the differences in how the two states deal with the death penalty. While the death penalty is allowed in Maryland, it is only applied to adults, whereas Virginia had also allowed the death penalty for juvenile offenders.


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Under-reporting of human Bird Flu infections poses worldwide threat

November 21, 2005

Possible under reporting of bird flu infections in China and other Southeast Asian countries may be promoting an illusory sense that human infections are very limited. Common press reports only describe fewer than 130 people as infected with H5N1 avian flu and that fewer than 70 have died worldwide. Yet, there are enormous problems getting accurate data, especially in a country like China with a population of more than a billion.

"Reporting a suspected bird flu infection in bird or humans is a very unlikely event," said Dr. Shoshana Zimmerman of the eHealth Institute. She is also a founder of www.birdflubeacon.com, a site dedicated to bird flu issues. "There are very few incentives to report, and lots of reasons to refrain from reporting. From the viewpoint of local rural small farmers, there is little to be gained and much to be lost by reporting an infection.  The worse threat is that their flocks could be killed, leaving them destitute."

There are many factors which mitigate against reporting bird or human infections of bird flu.

 * The deaths of chickens, ducks, and birds are common events for farmer. Even when a large number die at one time they may see no purpose in reporting the deaths.

 * When a human dies in locations with little or no medical services, the rural farmer’s priority for discerning the cause of death may be low.

 * In rural areas most people are not taken to hospitals when they are sick.

 * Bird flu symptoms are not widely known. If the symptoms are not known, they will not be recognized and reports of possible bird or human infections can not be made.

 * The expenses required for detection are those of proper collection and shipment of samples to one of approximately 200 laboratories worldwide, as well as the testing procedure that requires a two week period of waiting before results are obtained.

 * The lack of incentive for countries to report large scale outbreaks as it may lead to widespread panic and economic loss, as occurred with SARS. These factors can be seen at work in the way that the first bird flu death was reported in China," Dr. Zimmerman stated.

A young woman, Zhou Maoya, died after returning home to the village of Yantan in Annui province to prepare for her wedding. Her family has stated that they did not take her to the hospital because they thought it would not do any good. Officials also note rural Chinese also often cite relatively expensive medical costs as a reason for not seeking treatment when sick.

Although initially authorities attributed her death to pneumonia the resulting political pressure prompted China to invite the World Health Organization to send experts to investigate. The authorities then rescinded the previous position and attributed her death to bird flu based on the similarity of the symptoms that she was reported to exhibit with those of bird flu. The village was quarantined and journalists were denied access. It is not known how many others might be infected in the village. Official announcements were made of plans to vaccinate and cull birds.

A local government official, Fan Qian, told AFP that it was believed Zhou was infected while she was outside of the province.

Fan Tan, a local official, told AFP news that 1,000 birds in Yantan had been culled (killed). Plans were announced to vaccinate 2 million poultry in the area, a huge and difficult task.

Zhang, another official, said authorities had met with all villagers to give them flu vaccinations and to tell them how to protect themselves against the bird flu virus, including not consuming poultry products. It is known that flu vaccinations do not protect against bird flu. Villagers and local officials minimized the threat. In outlying areas of Yantan, residents said that they did not know of any new outbreaks. Other possible infections have been attributed to similar common causes but there have not been any tests performed validating those attributions. Fan Litan, a peasant woman from Fantu village, about 2 miles from Yantan, lost many of her ducks, and chickens and also a dog; she has attributed these deaths to the acts of hooligans. She said her family had been extremely frightened when her animals suddenly died. "We were scared to death," said Fan, standing next to a red sign posted on the outside wall of her home that said: "Prevention and control by the masses is basic for people." Fan said ducks and chickens are all healthy but she admitted that she had stopped eating poultry. No testing of these birds has been reported yet.

According to a recent AFP report from Liuchang, 59 miles south of Yantan, the obstacles to identifying infections are enormous. Like many, one Liuchang villager named Wang Hemin said he was concerned and would keep a closer eye on his ducks and chickens, but felt no immediacy since the infection was not in his province. He learned about bird flu on TV, and is aware that officials have come to his village of 2,700 people to warn residents about the virus. They offered guidelines: they told people that poultry which die suddenly could have contracted bird flu and should not be eaten or sold and that such an incident should also immediately be reported. However, the symptoms of H5N1 bird flu were not directly described. Residents have not yet been fully informed of what symptoms to look for in ill poultry--they are fever, diarrhea, teary eyes and swelling in the legs of the birds. Though a pledge was made earlier in the week to vaccinate 2 million birds immediately, no bird vaccinations in this area have been reported yet.

In another nearby village, Nazahuang, chickens scuttle in and out of houses. One resident, Fan Jiexu, 73, said no officials had yet warned her village to take precautions. Throughout rural areas, it is customary for chickens to scuttle in and out of homes. Ducks and bird often die and are eaten by villagers when it is believed safe to do so.

China has reported 17 avian flu outbreaks as of this week. Despite the Chinese government issued high alerts, critical information is not being adequately communicated to some rural villages. The size of the poultry population, the common and normal occurrence of poultry death on farms, and status of roughly 70% of the poultry population as being kept in backyards are factors complicating infection control.

The head of World Health Organization's China office, Henk Bekedam, is aware that slow reaction to bird flu threats and difficulty monitoring poultry in the world's most populous country makes control of its spread challenging.

Testing is required to confirm H5N1 virus, and positive test results lead to the killing of nearby flocks. The incentive for many villagers, officials, and governments to minimize reports of H5N1 virus infections and severe medical and economic complications for making confirmations of infection are obstacles opposing complete and full reporting of the spread and infection rates of the virus.


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Interview with Dr. Shoshana Zimmerman of eHealth Institute was done by Mead Rose. Substantive original content consisted of a discussion of factors which lead to under-reporting of bird flu in rural Asian countries. - unsigned comment by User:67.124.231.197

Slight confusion
Does the opening mean reporting of bird flu infections among humans, or should it read "Under reporting of bird flu infections among poultry stocks in China"? Brian McNeil / talk 23:50, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Response to slight confusion
The under-reporting applies to both bird infections and human infections. Many of the factors cited that limit reporting apply to both. The case cited as an example of these factors in operation surrounded the death of on Chinese woman. While the death has been confirmed, and some birds in that area have been culled, there has been no cited effort to test for other possible H5N1 infections in birds or humans. Dr. Shoshana Zimmerman - unsigned comment by User:67.124.231.197

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  March 1, 2005 In a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled today, in Roper v. Simmons, that it is unconstitutional to impose capital punishment on those who committed crimes while juveniles. Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion to overturn the death penalty for juveniles, which was also supported by Justices John Paul Stevens, David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer. Dissenting were Justices Antonin Scalia, William Rehnquist, and Clarence Thomas, with Justice Sandra Day O'Connor providing a separate dissent.

Christopher Simmons received the death sentence for brutally kidnapping and murdering Shirley Crook as part of a burglary. The case worked its way up the court system, with the courts continuing to uphold the death sentence. However, in light of a 2003 U.S. Supreme Court ruling, in Atkins v. Virginia, that overturned the death penalty for the mentally retarded, the Missouri Supreme Court reconsidered Mr. Simmon's case. It concluded that "a national consensus has developed against the execution of juvenile offenders" and sentenced Mr. Simmons to life imprisonment without parole.

The case eventually made its way to the Supreme Court, where it was argued on October 13, 2004. The constitutionality of capital punishment for juveniles was put into question, citing the Eighth Amendment that protects individuals from cruel and unusual punishment.

Previously, a 1988 Supreme Court decision Thompson v. Oklahoma barred execution of offenders under the age of 16. In 1989 Stanford v. Kentucky brought into question the constitutionality of execution for those under age 18. At the time the Supreme Court upheld the possibility of capital punishment for offenders who are 16 or 17 years old when they committed the capital offense. The same day in 1989 the Supreme Court ruled it was permissible to execute the mentally retarded in Penry v. Lynaugh. However, in 2003, the decision was reconsidered in Atkins v. Virginia citing that decency standards had evolved and execution of the mentally retarded was now considered to be cruel and unusual punishment and thus unconstitutional.

Roper v. Simmons brought the age issue to the table again. In question is whether it is Constitutionally permissible to execute an offender who committed a capital crime while under the age of 18. As in the issue of executing the mentally retarded, the Supreme Court has now decided that society’s standards have evolved since the 1989 case and that it is indeed cruel and unusual punishment to execute a juvenile, under age 18.

Supporting this ‘’evolving standard’’, is the body of scientific and sociological research1 that finds juveniles have a lack of maturity and sense of responsibility, compared to adults. Adolescents are overrepresented statistically in virtually every category of reckless behavior. In recognition of the comparative immaturity and irresponsibility of juveniles, almost every State prohibits those under age 18 from voting, serving on juries, or marrying without parental consent. Juveniles are also more vulnerable to negative influences and outside pressures, including peer pressure. They have less control, or experience with control, over their own environment. They also lack the freedom that adults have, in escaping a criminogenic setting.

Another key basis to support the “national consensus” on the death penalty for juveniles, is the increasing infrequency that it is applied at the state level. While 20 states have the juvenile death penalty on the books, only six states have executed prisoners for crimes committed as juveniles, since 1989. And, just three states have done so in the past 10 years: Oklahoma, Texas, and Virginia. Furthermore, five of the states that allowed the juvenile death penalty at the time of the 1989 case have since abolished it. Thus, the execution of juveniles is indeed becoming increasingly unusual in the United States and a “national consensus” has developed.

In evaluating whether penalties violate the Eighth Amendment prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment, the Supreme Court has taken guidance from the law of foreign countries and international bodies. Since 1990, only seven other countries – Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Nigeria, the Democratic Republic of Congo, and China – have executed juveniles. Since then, however, each of those seven countries has either abolished the death penalty for juveniles or made public disavowal of the practice. Now, one finds the stark reality that the United States stand alone, as the only country in the world that continues to allow execution of juveniles. Furthermore, only the United States and Somalia have yet to ratify Article 37 of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (September 2, 1990), expressly prohibits capital punishment for crimes committed by juveniles.

In drawing the line at 18 years of age for death eligibility, the Supreme Court considered that is also where society draws the line between childhood and adulthood for a multitude of other purposes.

Both the Scalia dissent, joined by Rehnquist and Thomas, and Justice O’Connor’s separate dissent put into question whether a “national consensus” had indeed formed among the state laws. In addition, Scalia also objects to taking guidance from foreighn law in interpreting the Constitution.

Implications of this ruling, are particularly felt in the State of Virginia, where it is now most certain that Lee Boyd Malvo will not face the death penalty. He is responsible in-part, along with John Allen Muhammad, for the DC Sniper Attacks that terrorized the Washington DC area in October 2002. He had already been spared the death penalty in his first trial, for the murder of FBI employee, Linda Franklin, outside a Home Depot store in Falls Church, Virginia. However, Mr. Malvo is also set to face trial in Prince William County, Virginia for another murder, and yet to face trial in Louisiana and elsewhere for other killings. In light of today's Supreme Court decision, the prosecutors in Prince William County may not pursue the charges against Mr. Malvo, after all. The primary reason for extraditing these two suspects from Maryland, where they were arrested, to Virginia, was in fact the differences in how the two states deal with the death penalty. While the death penalty is allowed in Maryland, it is only applied to adults, whereas Virginia had also allowed the death penalty for juvenile offenders.


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Maybe possibly this could be used in conjuction with template:issues. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:33, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

  March 1, 2005

In a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled today, in Roper v. Simmons, that it is unconstitutional to impose capital punishment on those who committed crimes while juveniles. Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion to overturn the death penalty for juveniles, which was also supported by Justices John Paul Stevens, David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer. Dissenting were Justices Antonin Scalia, William Rehnquist, and Clarence Thomas, with Justice Sandra Day O'Connor providing a separate dissent.

Christopher Simmons received the death sentence for brutally kidnapping and murdering Shirley Crook as part of a burglary. The case worked its way up the court system, with the courts continuing to uphold the death sentence. However, in light of a 2003 U.S. Supreme Court ruling, in Atkins v. Virginia, that overturned the death penalty for the mentally retarded, the Missouri Supreme Court reconsidered Mr. Simmon's case. It concluded that "a national consensus has developed against the execution of juvenile offenders" and sentenced Mr. Simmons to life imprisonment without parole.

The case eventually made its way to the Supreme Court, where it was argued on October 13, 2004. The constitutionality of capital punishment for juveniles was put into question, citing the Eighth Amendment that protects individuals from cruel and unusual punishment.

Previously, a 1988 Supreme Court decision Thompson v. Oklahoma barred execution of offenders under the age of 16. In 1989 Stanford v. Kentucky brought into question the constitutionality of execution for those under age 18. At the time the Supreme Court upheld the possibility of capital punishment for offenders who are 16 or 17 years old when they committed the capital offense. The same day in 1989 the Supreme Court ruled it was permissible to execute the mentally retarded in Penry v. Lynaugh. However, in 2003, the decision was reconsidered in Atkins v. Virginia citing that decency standards had evolved and execution of the mentally retarded was now considered to be cruel and unusual punishment and thus unconstitutional.

Roper v. Simmons brought the age issue to the table again. In question is whether it is Constitutionally permissible to execute an offender who committed a capital crime while under the age of 18. As in the issue of executing the mentally retarded, the Supreme Court has now decided that society’s standards have evolved since the 1989 case and that it is indeed cruel and unusual punishment to execute a juvenile, under age 18.

Supporting this ‘’evolving standard’’, is the body of scientific and sociological research1 that finds juveniles have a lack of maturity and sense of responsibility, compared to adults. Adolescents are overrepresented statistically in virtually every category of reckless behavior. In recognition of the comparative immaturity and irresponsibility of juveniles, almost every State prohibits those under age 18 from voting, serving on juries, or marrying without parental consent. Juveniles are also more vulnerable to negative influences and outside pressures, including peer pressure. They have less control, or experience with control, over their own environment. They also lack the freedom that adults have, in escaping a criminogenic setting.

Another key basis to support the “national consensus” on the death penalty for juveniles, is the increasing infrequency that it is applied at the state level. While 20 states have the juvenile death penalty on the books, only six states have executed prisoners for crimes committed as juveniles, since 1989. And, just three states have done so in the past 10 years: Oklahoma, Texas, and Virginia. Furthermore, five of the states that allowed the juvenile death penalty at the time of the 1989 case have since abolished it. Thus, the execution of juveniles is indeed becoming increasingly unusual in the United States and a “national consensus” has developed.

In evaluating whether penalties violate the Eighth Amendment prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment, the Supreme Court has taken guidance from the law of foreign countries and international bodies. Since 1990, only seven other countries – Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Nigeria, the Democratic Republic of Congo, and China – have executed juveniles. Since then, however, each of those seven countries has either abolished the death penalty for juveniles or made public disavowal of the practice. Now, one finds the stark reality that the United States stand alone, as the only country in the world that continues to allow execution of juveniles. Furthermore, only the United States and Somalia have yet to ratify Article 37 of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (September 2, 1990), expressly prohibits capital punishment for crimes committed by juveniles.

In drawing the line at 18 years of age for death eligibility, the Supreme Court considered that is also where society draws the line between childhood and adulthood for a multitude of other purposes.

Both the Scalia dissent, joined by Rehnquist and Thomas, and Justice O’Connor’s separate dissent put into question whether a “national consensus” had indeed formed among the state laws. In addition, Scalia also objects to taking guidance from foreighn law in interpreting the Constitution.

Implications of this ruling, are particularly felt in the State of Virginia, where it is now most certain that Lee Boyd Malvo will not face the death penalty. He is responsible in-part, along with John Allen Muhammad, for the DC Sniper Attacks that terrorized the Washington DC area in October 2002. He had already been spared the death penalty in his first trial, for the murder of FBI employee, Linda Franklin, outside a Home Depot store in Falls Church, Virginia. However, Mr. Malvo is also set to face trial in Prince William County, Virginia for another murder, and yet to face trial in Louisiana and elsewhere for other killings. In light of today's Supreme Court decision, the prosecutors in Prince William County may not pursue the charges against Mr. Malvo, after all. The primary reason for extraditing these two suspects from Maryland, where they were arrested, to Virginia, was in fact the differences in how the two states deal with the death penalty. While the death penalty is allowed in Maryland, it is only applied to adults, whereas Virginia had also allowed the death penalty for juvenile offenders.


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Electronic Frontier Foundation sues Sony over CD technology

November 22, 2005

The California-based, as well as the Attorney General of Texas, has filed a law suit against Sony Computer Entertainment of America for their controversial use of anti-piracy software.

The EFF claims that the software on the CDs BMG Music (a subsidiary of Sony) produces acts as, which the EFF claims is against Texas law. The program, known as XCP, is said to install software on one's system when they insert the CD into their computer for purposes such as adding to music software.

Sony currently rejects the idea of XCP technology being considered as spyware, however they have agreed to replace CDs with the software and to temporarily discontinue the installation of it on their CDs.

Among the controversy that Sony's moves to counter piracy have raised is the accusation that their software leaves a machine more vulnerable to attacks across the Internet. A has already been found in the wild that utilizes one of the anti-piracy software's functions.


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Fischer suffers seizure, collapses during Red Wings game

November 22, 2005

Detroit Red Wings defenseman Jiri Fischer was hospitalized Monday night after suffering a seizure while on the bench during an ice hockey game in Detroit. He is listed in stable condition.

Late in the first period in a game against the Nashville Predators at Joe Louis Arena, Fischer collapsed on the bench. According to Red Wing coach Mike Babcock, Fischer suffered a seizure, and went into cardiac arrest. He was revived by team medical staff, who used a defibrillator to restart Fischer's heart. He was taken by ambulance to Detroit Receiving Hospital. Fox Sports Detroit reported that he was awake and talking to hospital staff.

As of Monday night, Fischer's condition was listed as stable.

In September 2002, Fischer had an abnormal electrocardiogram reading, forcing him to miss two days of training camp. A subsequent follow-up test was passed.

The game, which was officially stopped with 7:30 left in the first period, was cancelled. The game will be made up on January 23, 2006.


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BIRD FLU FEATURES http://www.stanford.edu/group/virus/uda/ Title= The greatest enemy of all--Infectious Disease

The Journal of the American Medical Association said in 1918:

"The 1918 has gone: a year momentous as the termination of the most cruel war in the annals of the human race; a year which marked, the end at least for a time, of man's destruction of man; unfortunately a year in which developed a most fatal infectious disease causing the death of hundreds of thousands of human beings. Medical science for four and one-half years devoted itself to putting men on the firing line and keeping them there. Now it must turn with its whole might to combating the greatest enemy of all--infectious disease."

from http://www.stanford.edu/group/virus/uda"In the fall of 1918 the Great War in Europe was winding down and peace was on the horizon. The Americans had joined in the fight, bringing the Allies closer to victory against the Germans. Deep within the trenches these men lived through some of the most brutal conditions of life, which it seemed could not be any worse. Then, in pockets across the globe, something erupted that seemed as benign as the common cold. The influenza of that season, however, was far more than a cold. In the two years that this scourge ravaged the earth, a fifth of the world's population was infected. The flu was most deadly for people ages 20 to 40. This pattern of morbidity was unusual for influenza which is usually a killer of the elderly and young children. It infected 28% of all Americans (Tice). An estimated 675,000 Americans died of influenza during the pandemic, ten times as many as in the world war. Of the U.S. soldiers who died in Europe, half of them fell to the influenza virus and not to the enemy (Deseret News). An estimated 43,000 servicemen mobilized for WWI died of influenza (Crosby)."

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

http://www.stanford.edu/group/virus/uda/

http://www.answers.com/topic/spanish-flu

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/databank/entries/dm18fl.html

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Under-reporting_of_human_Bird_Flu_infections_poses_worldwide_threat

http://society.guardian.co.uk/health/news/0,8363,1647973,00.html http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/T93335.htm http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051110/hl_nm/birdflu_dc_27

http://www.gazette.net/stories/111005/brunnew201835_31912.shtml http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news_lite.php?id=164328 http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkzOTcmZmdiZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTY4MTI4NTMmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXky http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/051110/0100796.html http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051110/hl_afp/healthflukuwait_051110140432 http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/avianflu/news/nov0905avflu2.html http://www.pharmaceuticalonline.com/content/news/article.asp?docid=%7b26FB6596-5AA2-4A1B-B5F8-D99494F5998B%7d&VNETCOOKIE=NO

http://www.westportnow.com/index.php?/v2/comments/11864/ http://www.bangladesh-web.com/news/view.php?hidDate=2005-11-10&hidType=HIG&hidRecord=0000000000000000070510

Sources for you...

I find it a good idea to lift quotes to remind you of the article content - not all sources keep articles up indefinitely. Using the source template also means you can just cut and paste into a story. Brian McNeil / talk 21:10, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Here's another one, with my style of lifting quotes for the details.

"two men and an 8-year-old girl have been hospitalized with suspected avian influenza in a northern Vietnamese province ... new human cases in Bac Giang province, 70 kilometres northeast of Hanoi ... H5N1 virus, which so far has killed half the people known to have contracted it ... 42 people in Vietnam since 2003 ... sent blood samples from the patients to the National Institute for Hygiene and Epidemiology for testing and the results are expected back in three or four days"

Brian McNeil / talk 15:16, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

No need to extract quotes from BBC sources, they keep everything. Brian McNeil / talk 15:51, 11 November 2005 (UTC) http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/303156/key_fda_official_in_avian_flu_fight_faces_conflict_of/index.html?source=r_health http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/303367/singapore_company_launches_two_avian_flu_rapid_test_kits/index.html?source=r_health http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051112/hl_afp/healthfluchina_051112121047 http://www.pharmabiz.com/article/detnews.asp?articleid=30281 http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051112/hl_afp/healthfluzambiapoultry_051112145058 http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-11/slu-ect111405.php http://www.cna.com.tw/eng/cepread.php?id=200511150024 http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-11/mu-mvd111405.php http://www.nbc10.com/health/5323592/detail.html?rss=phi&psp=health http://uk.news.yahoo.com/15112005/344/50-birds-died-uk-bird-flu-centre.html http://uk.news.yahoo.com/15112005/344/50-birds-died-uk-bird-flu-centre.html

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Former DeLay aide pleads guilty in corruption case

November 22, 2005

Michael Scanlon, the former partner of the influential lobbyist Jack Abramoff, pled guilty to conspiracy to bribe congressmen and other public staffers. He agreed to pay back US$19 million to a defrauded Indian tribe and entered into a plea agreement. Scanlon is an ex-aide and press secretary to former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, who was indicted in October on conspiracy and money laundering charges relating to his dealings with Abramoff.

The members of Congress involved in the corruption charges have not yet been named by the prosecutors, but Representative Bob Ney of Ohio has acknowledged that he is "Representative No. 1" named in the court papers. The prosecution alleges that Representative No. 1 accepted gifts, including a golf trip to a luxury resort in Scotland, and regular meals in an upscale D.C. restaurant "in exchange for a series of official acts and influence."

Ney is said to be cooperating with the investigation. According to Ney's spokesperson, Brian Walsh, Congressman Ney was a merely victim of Scanlon's illegal activities.


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Christmas Island detention centre reopened

November 22, 2005

Australia's on  in the Indian Ocean has been reopened to detain a group of seven Indonesian asylum seekers. The (DIMIA) said four men, one woman and two infants from  were taken from  to the remote detention facility, 2,600km north-west of Perth on November 17.

The group arrived on a small boat at Honeymoon Beach, near Kalumburu a remote Aboriginal community on the northern coast of Western Australia's far north, on November 5. Locals were startled when three of the men waded ashore to ask for directions to the nearest city. After returning to sea with directions to, 400km south-east of Kalumburu, the 's caught up with the group and tethered their boat alongside. The group were taken into detention in Darwin.

The Australian government enforces a policy of of unauthorised arrivals. Christmas Island is an, its closest neighbour is Java, 360km away.

DIMIA, which had originally planned to deport the group, say the West Timorese will remain on Christmas Island while their claims for refugee protection are assessed. "The group was going to be removed having initially not raised claims or information engaging Australia's protection obligations, but since that initial screening the group raised new issues and so their claims will be further examined now," a DIMIA spokesman said.

Senator said he was concerned the children were in detention despite a government promise that such an arrangement would be a last resort. "We want to know exactly what the cost has been to unnecessarily fly these people over to Christmas Island and why, seeing that they managed to arrive within the accepted migration zone and should be processed here," he said.

DIMIA said the cost of housing the group in the reactivated Christmas Island facility was not yet known, and that such transfers were standard practice. DIMIA said the children would be in the facility on a short-term basis.

"Once initial processing is complete — a week or two weeks probably — it is planned that the family of four who are within that group of seven ... will live in the Christmas Island community under residents determination arrangements, while the three single men will be accommodated in the centre there," the DIMIA spokesman said.

"Following consultations with their lawyer, they will be interviewed by an experienced protection visa case manager assisted by a qualified interpreter to establish whether they are in need of protection."

In a May 2004 report, the National Inquiry into Children in Immigration Detention, the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission (HREOC) found that children in Australian immigration detention centres have suffered numerous and repeated breaches of their human rights. The report stated that the long-term impact of Australia's immigration detention system meant that these children "will carry the scars of their detention experience throughout their lives."

The report said, "Despite ten years of a mandatory detention regime, the Department of Immigration and Multicultural and Indigenous Affairs' own administrative measures and instructions virtually ignored the special needs of children. There was also little regard paid to obligations arising from the ."

First "boat people" in 2 years
The West Timorese group are the first asylum seekers apprehended in Australian waters since a group of Vietnamese people arrived off, on Western Australia's west coast more than two years ago.

The Christmas Island detention centre also was re-opened for the Vietnamese asylum seekers — who are now living in the Australian community under refugee protection status. The 54 Vietnamese people were detained for over two years were fleeing political persecution. The federal government granted (TPVs) to the Vietnamese detainees in July this year.

In July, West Australian refugee advocate Kaye Bernard, slammed the two-year remote detention as an expensive, unfortunate mess. "It is clear now that this whole sorry mess of two years of unnecessary detention for the Vietnamese kids and their families, costing in excess of $50 million, leaves a bad taste in the mouths of many Australians," she said. "This decision shows that the processing of these people by DIMIA was 100 per cent wrong and requires examination under the scrutiny of a ."

New detention facility
The Christmas Island detention centre is part of the Australian government's. The federal government is spending over 200 million to build a new 800 bed detention centre on the remote island.

Senator called on  the Immigration Minister in April 2005, to explain the government's plans for Christmas Island detention centre following reports that all Australia's immigration detainees will be held on the island. There are plans to shift all detainees to the island, according to the Shire President of Christmas Island, who says that all future unauthorised boat arrivals will be detained there.

"The government should be closing detention centres, not building new ones," Senator Nettle said. "Christmas Island's new detention centre serves no purpose beyond furthering the Coalition's political ends at a cost of over $300 million dollars to the public. If there are no plans to change the role of Christmas Island's detention centre why is the government spending $300 million on an upgrade? "


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Hey Elliot... if you are doing major work to an article and don't want anyone to edit it while you do, you can use the tag at the top of the article. - Borofkin 05:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

 * thanks borofkin --elliot_k 05:49, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

It seems that the prospect of being held up in a detention centre is deterring asylum seekers. - unsigned comment by 220.237.106.97

It's certainly a possibility. Remember that a great many things have happened since the great asylum seeker influces of 1999-2001, such as a major change in the situation in Afghanistan and Iraq, the two major source countries. Also, the governments approach has involved more than just deterrence through inhumane treatment - working with Indonesia to combat the crime of people smuggling, for example. - Borofkin 01:43, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

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 * ✅ --SVTCobra 13:00, 6 June 2023 (UTC)


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Nitish wins in Bihar, India

November 23, 2005

The -Bharatiya Janata Party combine under the leadership of has won 143 of 243 seats in Assembly elections for the state of Bihar held this November. The JD(U) legislative party elected Nitish to be Bihar's new Chief Minister. This was the second election in the last eight months; the first was held in February and the resulting house was suspended by the Bihar Governor. The former Chief Minister is the wife of Lalu Prasad Yadav, who had control of the state for 15 years, either directly or through his wife. Nitish Kumar will be sworn in as the 31st chief minister of Bihar on Thursday November 24, 2005.

After meeting with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in his office in Parliament, Nitish left for Patna in order to stake claim to form a government. Nitish will appoint 14 ministers in his government, including deputy chief minister. BJP leaders and  are front runners for the post as deputy chief minister, followed by Ashwani Choubey and. Voting turnout in the election was 47 percent of the total electorate numbering 5,13,47,092, which is comprised of 2,75,46,646 male voters and 2,38,00,446 female voters. There were 102 BJP candidates and 139 JD(U) candidates.

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Angela Merkel elected new German chancellor

November 22, 2005

Angela Merkel has been elected the first female chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany; she succeeds Gerhard Schröder after his seven years as head of government.

Merkel received 397 of the 612 votes cast in the Bundestag. Schröder was the first to congratulate her before she accepted the election. The newly formed grand coalition of Social (SPD) and Christian Democrats (CDU/CSU) holds a total of 448 seats in the Bundestag.

Later in the day, Merkel took the oath of office and president Horst Köhler officially appointed her along with her cabinet.

Angela Merkel was born 1954 in Hamburg. After her birth her father was offered a pastorship in East Germany (GDR) and the family moved there. She studied physics in Leipzig where she earned her PhD. After the fall of the Berlin Wall, Merkel became involved in the East German democracy movement, joining the Demokratischer Aufbruch. She was spokeswoman of the first and last freely elected prime minister of the GDR, Lothar de Maizière. After the reunification Merkel served as minister of youth and family in the government of Helmut Kohl during the years 1990 – 1994 and later as minister of the environment from 1994 – 1998. In 2000 she became head of the Christian Democrats and in the following Federal election of 2002 she stood aside, letting Edmund Stoiber of the Bavarian CSU be the failed Christian Democrats candidate for the chancellorship. When Gerhard Schröder called for an early election in May of this year, Merkel received the nomination of her party.

Outgoing Chancellor, Gerhard Schröder, was born during 1944 in Blomberg. His father died in World War II, only a few months after Schröder's birth. He initially worked as a sales clerk and earned his high school diploma studying at night. He studied law in Göttingen and worked at the University there, joining the Social Democrats and became chair of the Young Socialists, the youth organisation of the party. In 1980 he was elected to the Bundestag and later became governor of Lower-Saxony. In 1998 he was the SPD's successful candidate for chancellor, forming a coalition government with The Greens. After the resignation of Oskar Lafontaine in 1999, Schröder also became chair of the SPD, a post he held until 2004. His coalition was re-elected in 2002.

After a humiliating defeat of SPD in North Rhine-Westphalia, Schröder called for an early election. During a tough campaign, Schröder managed to get the SPD nearly as many votes as the CDU, clawing back a significant advantage the party had over his entering the campaign.

Schröder announced that he will give up his seat in the Bundestag and practise as a lawyer again.


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Talk:Angela Merkel elected new German chancellor

Worst original reporting ever: Watching the proceedings on TV. --Deprifry|+T+ 09:52, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
 * If you had something to eat at the same time it could've been wurst original reporting ever. :)
 * I did a little copyedit and published, I hope I haven't distorted the accuracy with any of my changes. Brian McNeil / talk 11:53, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
 * No, not at all. Thanks a lot. --Deprifry|+T+ 15:10, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Good work! --vonbergm 17:44, 22 November 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:Japan to hunt 950 whales for "scientific research"

Why has the date on this been bumped from the 12th to yesterday? This isn't right, as it makes the opening of the article wrong in stating the the fleet has just left. They're probably there by now, and no, that shouldn't be fixed.

Also this had a prior talk page that wasn't restored, I'm sure I suggested putting a revised title on this article. The Japanese claim their trip is for scientific purposes, I'd prefer to see "Japanese Whaling fleet heads for Antartic sanctuary". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brian McNeil (talk • contribs) 11:40, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Typo
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First off, we really appreciate your contribution.

But sometimes users submit an article from somewhere else, not realizing that Wikinews cannot keep copy-and-paste versions of articles which are published elsewhere under a restrictive copyright. An article created in this way is a copyright violation, and Wikinews policy is to erase these even if they are excellent article ideas.

Another problem which sometimes comes up is press releases: Press releases are sometimes excellent sources, but they do not qualify as unbiased news articles so they can't be published as they are. Two key things to remember about press releases is that they're usually written to represent the viewpoint of an involved party (Thus likely running foul of our Neutral Point of View policy). And second, they are generally covered by copyright which can conflict with our open editing approach.

A better way to get an article on an exciting subject published here is to write an original article following the guidelines described in writing an article, or to write a brief explanation of the subject and include the url address of articles or websites to use as sources. If you are part of the story that the article is about, you may also wish to consider requesting an interview rather than writing the article yourself.

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