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In a separate article written in French, the following products are cited : “ thorium 234, le plutonium ou le sulfate d'ammonium, selon le parquet de Reggio-Calabria “ ( “parquet” = investigators ). I have some doubts, especially about the presence of plutonium ...

( http://www.cyberpresse.ca/environnement/pollution/200909/18/01-903141-la-mediterranee-convertie-en-cimetiere-de-dechets-toxiques-par-la-mafia.php )

It is urgent to determine the exact contents and to find other ships.

Some drums have also been found on the coast of Somalia after the tsunami. Was it possible to inspect their content ?

Mafia
I hate to be on the side of the mafia, but they seem like only partly to blame /// who are the folks who hired the mafia to get rid of they old ships ??? they too are too blame !!! --65.51.209.126 (talk) 17:30, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Mafia and Somalia
I've heard that a lot of the motivation behind the piracy in Somalia is due to the Italian mafia dumping radioactive waste. 71.120.114.83 (talk) 15:42, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * that's rediculas. --CnrFallon (talk) 16:35, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

 * Actually, Somali piracy has certainly been linked directly to waters being polluted by toxic waste, stopping the legal enterprise that is fishing. I don't know enough to comment on wether the Somalis know, or think they know, that some of it glows in the dark, though. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 06:29, 24 September 2009 (UTC)


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Scare tactics by the WHO ... more people die from jabbing pencils up their brains than Swine Flu ....  WHO just wants your money ... tricking you stupid governments into giving 'em billions and billions ... just let this malady run its natural course --65.51.209.126 (talk) 17:25, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Remember H5N1?
"Buy Tamiflu!" they said... "Countries all over the World are buying Tamiflu stocks..." they informed... Then, they said "Tamiflu doesn't have any effect on H5N1"... ???

This flu is just as any other flu. Just because the US and Mexico have crappy health systems, that does not justify the scare tactics. Get a grip.


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UK study reveals smoking could shorten men's lives by 10–15 years

September 19, 2009

A study carried out in the United Kingdom revealed that the life expectancy for men could be reduced by 10–15 years after the age of 50 due to smoking.

The British Medical Journal carried out a study over a time period of 38 years in the United Kingdom which examined the health of 19,000 men aged 40–69. They were examined between 1967–1970. After tracing the history of the men, the survey revealed that smoking, high blood pressure and high cholesterol reduced the life expectancy of men by 10–15 years after they reached the age of 50. The research was published on the BMJ's website on Friday.

The researchers from the University of Oxford in England were focussing on smoking, high blood pressure and cholesterol due to the fact that they are the main cardiovascular risk factors. Dr. Robert Clarke from the university said: "We've shown that men at age 50 who smoke, have high blood pressure and high cholesterol levels can expect to survive to 74 years of age, while those who have none of these risk factors can expect to live until 83. It is precisely this kind of very prolonged follow-up study that is necessary to get these results — that modest differences in heart risk factors can accurately predict significant differences in life expectancy."

"The results give people another way of looking at heart disease risk factors that can be understood more readily. If you stop smoking or take measures to deal with high blood pressure or body weight, it will translate into increased life expectancy."


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=Bullcrap= "74 years of age, while those who have none of these risk factors can expect to live until 83." That's 9 years not 10 to 15! Besides there research is crude and self-fulfilling ... fucking antismoking nazis ... let people smoke if they want ... whay are thay taking all our freedoms away???--65.51.209.126 (talk) 19:23, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll believe the study (most likely differ person to person) but let people do what they want with their bodies.--75.74.61.245 (talk) 10:44, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't see anybody's taking rights away here. It's research showing that smokers' lifespan is reduced. I'll take the extra years and the health, you'll take the cigs and the consequences. Please feel welcome to light up. -Laolaolao (talk) 12:11, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

This isn't just about smoking, Wikipedia...
This article names only smoking in the title... but then talks about how the study was about smoking AND high cholesterol AND being overweight. 72.23.224.5 (talk) 01:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


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Jordan Lloyd wins US Big Brother 11

September 19, 2009

Jordan Lloyd has won the eleventh season of the American version of reality TV show Big Brother on Tuesday.

Lloyd, 22, from Matthews, North Carolina, was a waitress prior to entering the Big Brother house. In a twist she was in the Popular clique with fellow HouseGuests Braden Bacha and Laura Crosby who were evicted in the first two weeks. During the course of the show, she was very close to Jeff Schroeder from the Athletes clique.

On the finale night she won the final Head of Household competition securing her place in the final two. Lloyd won the grand prize of US$500,000 with five votes from the jury, beating Natalie Martinez's two votes. Lloyd received the votes of viewing public, Jessie Godderz, Lydia Tavera, Schroeder, and Michele Noonan to win. Due to Chima Benson's expulsion earlier in the season, the viewing public voted during the final week for who should win the final jury vote. Executive producer Allison Grodner noted in a post finale interview that while she didn't know the final percentage votes Lloyd was in the 90th percentile in both scenarios she was in.

CBS, the channel which has been showing Big Brother in the United States for the last ten years, recently announced the pickup of Big Brother 12 for the summer of 2010. Big Brother 11 has been the only summer show to grow over a previous season this summer and the finale of Big Brother 11 was extended to two hours. At the time of the announcement, Big Brother 11 averaged 7.1 million viewers up from Big Brother 10's 6.6 million viewers.

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Hi. I've taken a look at your article, and it looks quite good - i see you've taken a good read through our policies and guidelines. The story is written well from a stylistic point of view. Unfortunately, there's one problem - i'm afraid it is a bit stale. Usually, in order for a news article to get published on Wikinews, it has to cover an event that has happened within the past two or so days. The article Jordan Lloyd wins US Big Brother 11 covers an event on the 15th, almost three days ago, and is sort of borderline. As such, I'm a bit hesitant to review and publish it. I'll consult other editors on the talk page to get some second opinions. In any case, thanks for your work, it's much appreciated. I hope you'll continue to write more articles in the future! Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  20:08, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
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Stale?
This article covers an event that happened on the 15th. It is now the 18th, almost 72 hours afterward, a borderline case. As such, I'm a bit hesitant to review and publish this. I'd like some second opinions on whether or not this qualifies as stale. thanks, Tempodivalse [talk]  20:10, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I would like to point out while this happened three days ago, information like the public vote being in the 90th percentile wasn't revealed until the 16th and I provided a source. So if I understand stale correctly this should make the article okay to publish since this information (despite being minor) wasn't revealed until a day later. Alucard 16 (talk) 02:46, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I wasn't aware the interview had been published later. That would make make the article fresher. I've readded review. Tempodivalse [talk]  02:48, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

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UK energy companies announce that prices for bills could increase

September 19, 2009

Six energy companies in the United Kingdom have announced that it is likely that the prices for energy bills could increase over the course of 2010.

The companies, which are nicknamed the "big six" in the United Kingdom, did not pass on information that there would be price cuts in energy bills despite increasing profits. However, the companies have in fact sent a message in response saying that the prices of bills may even increase over the course of the next year. Energy company watchdog the Office of Gas and Electricity Markets (Ofgem) have estimated that energy companies will make gross margins of £170 ($276) per dual fual customer over the course of the next twelve months, due to the recent fall in wholesale energy costs.

Ofgem have said: "Our analysis shows that based on an 18-month hedging strategy and assuming that retail prices remain unchanged, projected gross margin is set to increase by around £80 for dual fuel customers over the next six months."

The "big six" energy companies in the United Kingdom are British Gas, E-on, Npower, Scottish and Southern Energy, Scottish Power, and EDF Energy. British Gas stated: "Prices [are] likely to remain at historically high levels, and in fact likely to increase as non-commodity costs rise ever upwards."

EDF Energy said: "[We] would of course be prepared to reduce tariffs if market conditions allowed." Scottish Power stated: "There are no immediate signals that would indicate a fall in retail prices for this winter, and risks of an increase next year." Scottish & Southern Energy commented: "With forward annual wholesale prices significantly higher, and with upward pressures in terms of distribution, environmental and social costs, seeking to avoid an increase between now and the end of 2010 is an important goal."

Meanwhile, a study by Consumer Focus in early September 2009 suggested that "energy companies were overcharging customers by £100 ($162) every year. A spokesperson for Ofgem said that there was no evidence of any cartel in operation, or evidence of profiteering. The spokesperson commented: "It is up to the companies themselves to decide whether to cut their bills. Consumer Focus data suggests that Scottish Power has increased dual fuel prices by the most since 2003 - up 148% - while decreasing prices by 0.6% so far this year. RWE's Npower has increased tariffs by 132% since 2003, but has reduced bills by 2.7% in 2009."


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Suicide bomber kills 30 in northwest Pakistan

September 18, 2009

A suicide bomber in a village in northwestern Pakistan has killed at least thirty people on Friday, according to a police official. Fifteen other people were wounded.

The explosion occurred in Usterzai, near the town of Kohat. A two-story hotel and some vehicles near it were destroyed, and a nearby bazaar was also damaged. According to police, the bomb consisted of over three hundred pounds of explosive material. "A suicide bomber blew up a car filled with explosives in the market," said policeman Ali Hasan.

A police car that was dispatched after the explosion was attacked by Usterzai's residents, who were upset that the police did not provide sufficient security for the neighbourhood.

Kohat is located in the Northwest Frontier Province of Pakistan, thirty miles south of Peshawar and a hundred miles west of the Pakistani capital Islamabad. The province is a home to many Taliban rebels, and there has been a significant amount of sectarian violence in the area.


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U.S. jobs picture not improving

September 19, 2009

Final August unemployment data was released yesterday with states indicating continued nonfarm payroll contraction going into the fall.

The Labor Department indicated an overall increase in unemployment in 27 states, a decrease in 16 and no change in 7. Record high jobless rates were reached in California (12.2%), Nevada (13.2%) and Rhode Island (12.8%); the highest since widespread state data was first reported in 1976. California's rate was influenced by the state budget passed in July which closed a US$24 billion shortfall by cutting many state-provided programs which included many state jobs. Michigan, again, had the highest unemployment rate in August at 15.2% which is nearly double its August 2008 unemployment rate of 8.6%. North Dakota, again, had the lowest unemployment rate at 4.3%. The current national unemployment rate is 9.7%.

On the jobs-front, forty-two states lost jobs last month led by Texas, Michigan, Georgia, and Ohio, totalling over 216,000 jobs; eight states recorded increases in job positions. The biggest job gains were in North Carolina and Montana. Since the recession began in December of 2007, there have been nearly 7 million jobs lost nation-wide.

Data for September will be released in the first week of October.

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12-year-old school boy has sex change in Sussex, England

September 19, 2009

A 12 year old boy turned up to start the new academic year as a girl, at a school in England.

The boy, who will remain unnamed, arrived for his first day at secondary school in Sussex in southern England wearing a dress, and with long hair in ribboned pigtails. His parents have had his name changed to a girl's by deed poll, and the boy is now preparing for hormone treatment and eventual surgery.

Former classmates from primary school noticed the change, and the boy was the subject of taunting, including being asked by other children if he was "gay".

The school called an emergency assembly and ordered fellow pupils to treat the individual as female, and threatened tough disciplinary action if he wasn't treated as a girl or if his new name was not used.

Many parents were outraged by the assembly. One of them stated, "They behaved appallingly by throwing this hand grenade into the room and then leaving the inevitable questions about it for unprepared parents. Maybe we could have explained sexual politics and encouraged our kids to be more sensitive if we'd had a chance to be involved."

Deidre Sanders, an agony aunt for British tabloid The Sun, which broke the story, gave her view: "It's ironic pupils will be disciplined if they fail to handle this child's sex change 'sensitively' — when their school could hardly have handled it less sensitively. Breaking news like this in a mass assembly without pre-briefing parents was crass and cruel — and added to this child's troubles."

Because of the tauntings, the boy was absent from school on Thursday. The family have been receiving threats and the house is now under police protection.

The Sun does know the identity of the boy but has refused to reveal it. The boy had told his classmates that for years he had wanted to be a girl. It is understood that the boy was treated as a male by his primary school principal, despite "girlie" behaviour such as wearing a bikini instead of shorts at swimming lessons, drying himself on Barbie towels, wearing pink ribbons in his hair and riding a pink scooter to school.

In an interview with Sky News Online, a spokesperson for the Gender Identity Research and Education Society (GIRES) said, "It is very unfortunate [...] It needs a careful process of familiarisation, not the big bang approach. The proper way would have been to train all staff before the term started, to work with the child's peer group and to prepare the teachers to be able to talk to the other pupils and their parents individually to answer their questions. What one school did was get the pupil to talk with peers in an interaction that was supervised by teachers. That kind of careful process is what's required."

Earlier this year, a German born by the name of Tim became Kim Petras after having medication at the age of 12 to suspend her puberty. She later had feminising hormone treatment and eventually gender confirmation surgery at the age of 16, making her the youngest transsexual in the world.

According to the Sun, this 12 year old boy is preparing to progress with hormone therapy and possibly undergo surgery that would make him one of the world's youngest sex-change patients.


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I have to disagree. Plenty of other outlets consider this newsworthy, is a selection. The fifth paragraph is actually a continuation of the quote from Deidre Sanders, not the author's own opinion. That quote should probably be cut down for copyright reasons though. I do agree this shouldn't be under Wackynews. the wub "?!"  21:13, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Right, I've had a go at fixing the issues. the wub "?!"  21:54, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

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'has sex change'?
Whatever we think here, the boy is simply wearing different clothes at this stage, that is not a 'sex change'.

One might also wonder if propaganda leading to pre-adolescent hormone treatments and genital mutilation is really good for a twelve-year-old child on that path, but those are other questions.Borgmcklorg (talk) 12:29, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

 * I agree the headline goes a step too far. Dressing as one's preferred gender is no more a "sex change" than gender reassignment surgery is "genital mutilation".  - Elmarco (talk) 14:59, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


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Comments:Suicide bomber kills 30 in northwest Pakistan

I will never get why and how bombing a market will help there cause. It makes no sense, bombing a market full of Muslims. I get it if they target a government official or something but Muslims civilians? --75.74.61.245 (talk) 10:49, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

 * I think the logic is that changes will be made to stop more innocents dying. It's a seriously dirty trick, and one that never works. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 11:43, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

What do you think about this latest explosion in Pakistan?
The responsible for all these deaths is Islam. --79.166.179.37 (talk) 11:36, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Remember that what happenes there doesn't necessarily get in the same "form" to our ears way here. Lots of weasel words, lots of propaganda words, etc. A man bombing a military base occupying his land will be called a "militant", the next outlet will call him an "insurgent", the next one a "terrorist", etc.

And in this case, 79.166.179.37 you are extremely wrong, islam doesn't have anything to do with why that idiot decided to blow up civilians. He most likely thought that by this act he'll make the invaders leave his country. If you'd actually read something from a neutral source you'll see that the great majority of suicide bombings aren't because of islam but because of foreign occupation. Islam is just a tool used by people like al-Zahwari or whatever his name is to recruit insecure people to die for his cause.

Politically motivated retaliation and warfare very rarely requires or urges suicide bombings. Saying Islam isn't involved is turning a blind eye to the history of these bombings, and the fact that they are carried out exclusively by Muslims in these regions of the world, and that the recruiters of these individuals who blow themselves up vocally do what they do in the name of Islam. It's just ridiculous, is what I'm saying, to not hold Islam accountable for these acts. If Islam were not an important factor in these ritualistic suicide bombings, then we should see a similar trend with any other religion under similar situations (occupations, multi-sect national power-grubbing, etc.). We never see even remotely the number of suicide bombings by Christians, Jews, etc. The only comparable thing might be in Japan decades ago during World War 2.


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UK seizes drugs worth £25 million in new record

September 19, 2009

The United Kingdom's Border Agency has seized drugs worth £25 million (US$ 40.6 million) after heroin was discovered in a shipment from South Africa.

The discovery was made during an inspection of souvenirs shipped into London's Heathrow Airport, where 165 kg of the drug was recovered. The Serious Organised Crime Agency raided a house in Maidstone, Kent, where a further 80 kg of heroin was discovered. A additional search brought the total to 360 kg, as well as 6,500 kg of herbal cannabis and resin. This includes drugs recovered in Durban, South Africa.

Three of those arrested in South Africa are from the UK and it is thought all of the drugs were for the domestic UK market. One of those arrested in the UK has been charged with possession of heroin with intent to supply.

The heroin was first discovered last week but the events have only now been publicised, as authorities were fearful that earlier revelations would damage their investigation. Five people in South Africa and two in the UK have been arrested. Heroin is a Class A drug in the UK.


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Comments:U.S. and China in trade dispute

Smoot-Hawley time. 71.120.114.83 (talk) 15:44, 19 September 2009 (UTC)


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Comments:UK teens cleared of school massacre plot

Holy crap, justice lives. Awesome. 71.120.114.83 (talk) 15:46, 19 September 2009 (UTC)


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Comments:Yukio Hatoyama formally elected Japanese prime minister

Japan has such an insane amount of debt. What can he honestly hope to achieve?


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Comments:Somali hospital hit by shells after continued unrest

What if the ISU had won? Would it really be that bad? 71.120.114.83 (talk) 15:49, 19 September 2009 (UTC)


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26 motorbikes, two cars pile up in Oregon, US

September 19, 2009 26 motorcycles and two cars have piled up on the Interstate 5 road in Oregon, United States. Two bikers have been critically injured.

The crash occurred near the Baldock Rest Area, which is just south of Wilsonville, at 2:45 p.m. Friday. The group of motorbikes, belonging to members of the Brother Speed club, was in the left (fast) lane behind one of the cars when traffic slowed down. Despite attempts to take evasive action, the bikes and car collided. The second car was hit by a motorbike that veered into the middle lane.

The bikes were in a formation of two columns — standard for large motorbike parties. According to eyewitness Terry Scott, a silver SUV suddenly slammed on its brakes and while the leading two bikers managed to swerve out of the way, the rest were caught up in a chain reaction. "There were bikes and people and gear flying," said Scott, who had been driving with his girlfriend behind the bikes.

The crash scene was "ordered mayhem" according to Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue's captain Mike Towner. "Firefighters from Aurora and Canby were providing medical care to injured bikers as non-injured bikers tried to assist," he said.

A LifeFlight air ambulance took two bikers to hospital and eight more were taken away by ambulances. Some bikers suffered from broken bones as well as shoulder and hip injuries. KPTV quotes the club's website as saying that they are "serious about brotherhood, respect, riding fast and building Choppers."

The accident was responded to by paramedics and firefighters from various locations, including Canby, St. Paul, Woodburn and those from the multi-city Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue. The entire road was closed northbound until 4 p.m., when one lane was reopened. Investigators kept the other lanes closed until 6 p.m.


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International Talk Like A Pirate Day held on Saturday

September 19, 2009 International Talk Like a Pirate Day is being celebrated today, as it has every September 19 for the last decade.

The tradition was started by John Baur and Mark Summers, known to fellow pirates as Cap'n Slappy and Ol' Chumbucket. It became popular in 2002, when US author Dave Barry joined the support. Baur and Summers are both published authors themselves, as well as self-publishing books.

In Nottinghamshire, United Kingdom the Campaign for Real Ale has organised a pirate pub crawl, while a London pub is offering rum at £0.50 a time. There are several events linked to the cancer charity Marie Curie. A Los Angeles bar is offering a day of 'sexy pirate talk'.

Australia's Whitsunday Islands are holding an event organised by a man identified by ABC only as Captain Dan van Blarcom. "We're the polite pirates and we always use our manners and say please and thank you and ensure our visitors always come first," he said, adding that people caught not having fun may be made to walk the plank and that there are "some pirate hip hop music and other pirate songs" on offer.

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At least two killed by gunman in Mexico City subway

September 19, 2009

According to police reports, at least two people were killed and five more wounded on Friday after a gunman opened fire at a subway station in Mexico City, Mexico.

Witness reports say that two men were shouting slogans against the government in the Balderas station. One of them started drawing graffiti on a wall, and opened fire when a police officer tried to restrain him.

The police officer and a passerby who tried to stop the gunman were both killed.

Only one person was arrested after the incident, the El Universal newspaper reported. He was later identified as Luis Felipe Hernandez Castillo, 38.

Manuel Mondragon, the police chief, pledged to increase police presence in the subway system following the attack.


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Comments:12-year-old school boy has sex change in Sussex, England

Well, my first question is why would someone humiliate them self by dressing up as the OPPOSITE sex?! That is just STUIPD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

^^Indeed. Really, this is just epically stupid. A Sex change is a decision for adults, not children! Don't they expect people to call him names if he wears a bikini and dresses, and has ponytails? Jeeze, most girls don't even do that. Bet his home environment is messed up. That is the only thing that wqould prompt something like that I think.

My thoughts
I have no problem with lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people. In fact, I find it appalling that many organizations and governments have discriminated against the LGBT community. But how can this twelve-year-old sex change be legal? A twelve-year old boy! He cannot be trusted to understand his sexuality at such an early age. This could be a mistake, one which is totally irreversible. If not the government, the parents should talk some sense into this boy. -- Poe Joe (talk) 01:09, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

 * I don't know the exact situation but I'd think that there is a proccess in place before the legal change could occur --RockerballAustralia (talk) 01:18, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

 * I don't think twelve is too young. By the time most kids enter elementary school, they have a basic understanding of boys and girls, and those who feel they came out wrong, so to speak, may already feel alienated.  Plus, the earlier in one's life to begin transition, the easier.

 * I do think that the school screwed this up royally though.

 * This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. I am a huge advocate of underage rights, but a twelve year old is simply way to young to adequately make that kind of a decision for himself. This seems to be a case of the kid's parents wishing they had a daughter instead of a son. Rekov (talk) 11:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

A Young Hero and her parents
The way I see it, this young child and her parents are heroes. It takes so much courage to be openly transsexual and for this young girl and her parents to acknowledge and take action is just beautiful to me. These kinds of instances where someone young declares their true gender identity at such an early age provide the proof that for many transsexual people this is something that is inherent in the very essence of who they are. In other words, it is biologically influenced.

I know it, wrong one.

wow.--75.74.61.245 (talk) 04:37, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

All these things are non-sense. Those who did so are ruining the minds, in short white washing!

Legal Issues
I'm surprised this is even legal. The story should have said something about that.

the school was very rash in their decision to publicly announce it and require the student to behave accordingly coz you know young people perceive things differently in comparison to adult.so in this case it would be wise for the school to hold pta meeting and find solution on how to approach the issue with the kids involved and to minimize negative stereotyping

confused
I am confused to read this news, is he made this decision by his own or someone forced him to do this..In these types of cased most of the time society is responsible to do this.

If I recall correctly...
In the case of young children who want a sex change, don't they normally give them some sort of medication that prevents puberty for a while, so if the child doesn't want a sex change after all when they're older they can come off the medication and just let things go as they would and if (when they are old enough to make the decision proper) they still want to go ahead, they haven't already developed the secondary sexual characteristics of their "natural" sex? Either they've decided to forgo this rather sensible course of action or some epic misreporting is afoot...--Bisected8 (talk) 14:36, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that this is exactly what is happening in this case. In any case it would be irresponsible in the extreme to simply grant a 12 year old child's wishes (wishes that would be of a permanent nature) without giving them a substantial amount of time to change their minds. Gopher65talk 15:19, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Please respect the child's wishes and refer to her as the girl she is, instead of a boy, during this article.
 * I considered this, but for the sake of clarity decided to refer to the child as male throughout. After all, none of the physical changes have yet been started, and this approach is consistent with the sources. the wub "?!"  20:17, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

I was saddened to read that the family of this child had been threatened and needed police protection. What kind of society needs to threaten and advocate violence against anyone who is different to them. Wouldn't it be better to accept and support this family in what must be a very difficult time for them.—Ningbojoe (talk) 00:42, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Change Schools?
Easiest solution would have been: Change Schools. bit late now... how do you punish someone for calling him a boy, while he still has penis. Does he change with the girls, or the boys...? I would be the school would not let him change with the Girls, and i would expect the girls parents would not approve of it either. 203.32.16.50 (talk) 20:09, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Sex Change Article
This story is about a 12 year old boy who is having a sex change. His name was legally changed as well. Classmates were told to accept this person as a girl. All through the article however, this person is not once referred to by the author as "she", but as "boy", "him" and "he". As the individual in question identifies as female and is becoming female physically, this is inappropriate and disrespectful. Once the fact of sex change had been established, the author should have referred to the child as the girl that she now is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.232.90 (talk) 19:11, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * See my comment above, as one of the authors of the article. the wub "?!"  19:43, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

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God help the people of this world, this is not what God intended. I mean really, what would his parents have done if this child had chosen to become a horse, lol. Would the build for him a million dollar stable, feed him hay and shovel his shit out the window? —142.162.87.100 (talk) 05:50, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

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very sey —117.193.67.196 (talk) 12:27, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Full_Star_Red.svg/25px-Full_Star_Red.svg.png —119.156.17.55 (talk) 08:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "its stupid ile fucking smack t..."
its stupid ile fucking smack the guy. —81.104.155.148 (talk) 21:49, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "sex boy 8teen"
sex boy 8teen —109.83.100.135 (talk) 17:58, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

what is wrong with this people, this is just sick!

Comments from feedback form - "If an individual has identifie..."
If an individual has identified as female, through legal or public avenues, then all references to her current gender should be female. —166.70.223.116 (talk) 19:33, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "Neutralyity"
Neutralyity —27.56.21.183 (talk) 14:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "sex"
sex —120.56.156.189 (talk) 09:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "I challenge the impartiality a..."
I challenge the impartiality and sensitivity of the story referring to this child as a boy instead of respecting her own self identification and explaining why that is appropriate. —121.45.170.167 (talk) 13:24, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Just a few thoughts...
Is this lad really capable of understanding what such a procedure could do to him?

I mean, if someone wants to live as the opposite sex, fine, but it wouldn't hurt to put some serious consideration into it.

Also, I have to agree with the woman in the article, posting this in the news was probably a huge mistake. Ostracise the kid more, why don't ya?

But I'll sit back and see how this goes. --138.89.104.57 (talk) 00:04, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "the author insists in referrin..."
the author insists in referring to her as "him", "his", etc. this has *nothing* to do with the fact that no actual surgery was done. gender identity is a human rights issue and is separated from body issues. this article should be corrected (after all, the policy says "we will not alter or update the content of articles that are archived, but will only accept requests to make grammatical and formatting corrections." but this is a case for grammatical correction) —187.40.241.221 (talk) 07:22, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Further appeals to change the gender references to the girl covered in it.
If the person involved is presenting as a girl, and if the article insists there is a "sex" "change" going on (how is representing one's gender identity in any way a 'sex' 'change'?), than it makes it absolutely no sense that she is referenced to as a male. It, in of itself, assumes what it is reporting is untrue, that there is just a boy pretending to be a girl, and that there was no "sex" "change", because if there was a "sex" "change", why would the article not acknowledge what it is that its reporting? As for 'clarity', it was very unclear to me, because I thought it was about a Female-to-Male transsexual person because the subject was referred to as a 'boy'. And as for consistency with external sources, it does not matter. The external sources are incorrect in their reporting. External sources are not the gospel, nor is WikiNews a stranger to independent reporting. This kind of reckless presentation of transgender issues really does harm youths like the girl in this article from having any solace whatsoever in life.

Comments from feedback form - "i like it sex guy"
i like it sex guy —121.54.96.13 (talk) 09:20, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Use common sense
Can this story display behavior that is any more idiotic?

First, a twelve year old does not have the mental or emotional capacity to make such life-altering decisions. Such an operation should only be performed when a person is of legal age.

Second, the parents should be held completely responsible for putting this child at risk of severe emotional trauma. The law requires that parents be held accountable for their children's behavior. Are these parents accessories to a criminal act? If so, they should be prosecuted immediately and to the full extent of the law.

Third, the school should have been better prepared for this bombshell and it's affect on the student body. Students will be students and any action by a government agency to modify the natural behavior of school children should be scrutinized by the school board and responsible parents.

While gay, lesbian and transgender proponents would have us believe that this is an issue about the right to sexual choice, common sense should tell us that sex change operations for minors is an issue of protecting our children from such nonsense. At least until our children grow up and can make such life-altering decisions.

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His to young to do that o_o


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Geelong win 2009 Australian Football League Grand Final

September 26, 2009

Geelong defeated St. Kilda by 12 points in the 2009 Australian Football League (AFL) Grand Final played at the Melbourne Cricket Ground. Both sides advanced after winning their Qualifying and Preliminary Finals.

The AFL finals series groups the best eight teams into two groups - the first through fourth and fifth through eighth. The winners of the Qualifying Finals (first v fourth, second v third) get a week off, the losers play the winners of the Elimination Finals (Fifth v eighth, sixth v seventh).

Australian rules football is played on a field 170-200 metres long by 140-170 metres wide. The two teams consist of 18 players a side. Scores are quoted as goals-behinds (total).

St Kilda finished top of the ladder after the 22 Home and away season with only two loses in rounds 20 and 21. They defeated Collingwood by 28 points in the Qualifying Final then the Western Bulldogs by seven points in the Preliminary Final.

Geelong finished second with four losses, all in the latter half of the season. They defeated the Western Bulldogs by 14 points in Qualifying Final then Collingwood by 73 points in the Preliminary Final.

Geelong player Gary Ablett Jr. won the Brownlow Medal earlier in the week but quickly "forgot" about it to focus on the Grand Final. "We've prepared well, we've prepared as good as we can and we have some important players back at the right time, it's fantastic," he said. "We'll be going into the game with no excuses."

Bureau of Meteorology senior forecaster James Taylor predicted that storms may pass over the MCG during the second, third or last quarters. "That's when we expect most likely we'll see shower activity spreading across Melbourne," Mr Taylor told AAP. "Hopefully, the opening ceremony will escape the weather. Thunderstorms are certainly possible." The police are also out in force, and will check all drivers leaving the ground are not drunk.

Geelong won the toss and kicked towards the City end. The predicted weather did not materialise in the first quarter Within the first eight seconds, the both teams had held up the ball causing another ruck contest.

Geelong pressed ahead in the first two minutes. Max Rooke manage to kick the first goal right on a minute twenty. St Kilda pushed forward immediately but did not convert. Geelong pressed again scoring a goal on five minutes. St Kilda replied with a behind.

St Kilda kicked their first goal through Brendan Goddard on eight and a half minutes. They continued to pressure Geelong resulting in another goal to Lenny Hayes.

The quarter ended in a back and forth tussle. Adam Schneider finished the quarter with a goal.

The predicted rain started during quarter time and continued through most of the second quarter but eased off towards the end.

St Kilda opened the quarter scoring a goal through Sean Dempster within the first three and a half minutes to push there lead to nine points. Geelong maintained forward pressure for the next two minutes before St Kilda countered to no result. Geelong responded to the counter with there own but did not score.

St Kilda pushed forward scoring a behind.

It took another ten nine minutes before either team scored a goal. Geelong scored that goal through Shannon Byrnes. they scored the next three goals through Gary Ablett, Tom Hawkins and Paul Chapman.

St Kilda rounded out the quarter with goals to Clinton Jones, Justin Koshitzke and Schneider.

The third quarter started with Geelong kicking a behind. Soon after, A St. Kilda player was sent off under the blood rule to receive medical attention, before Geelong kicked another behind. Cameron Mooney then kicked the first goal of the third quarter, putting Geelong back in front by one point. Nick Riewoldt then kicked a goal to put St. Kilda back in front, followed by another behind. Riewoldt then attempted to kick another goal, but was smothered on the goal line, scoring a behind. Another behind was scored by St. Kilda soon after.

Paul Chapman then kicked his second goal to reduce the margin to one point, with 8:53 remaining in the quarter. Gary Ablett then kicked a behind to three quarter time.

The fourth quarter started with Tom Hawkins kicking his second goal, reducing the margin to one point. Schneider then kicked a behind, increasing the margin back on two points. St. Kilda then kicked another behind, increasing the margin to three points. Geelong then made up two of the behinds, and scoring a third to draw the score with 5min left. Paul Chapman then kicked his third goal. Geelong then kicked another behind. St. Kilda then scored a behind, reducing the margin to one goal.

Max Rooke kicked a goal on the final siren to get Geelong to a two goal win.

Paul Chapman won the Norm Smith Medal for being the best player on the ground in the Grand Final.

The game was broadcast live on Channel 10 and One HD in Australia; ESPN in the USA, United Kingdom and Ireland; TSN in Canada; and Australia Network in the Asia Pacific region. Some Peer to Peer websites streamed the game live.


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This is not news

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Two people killed in aircraft crash in Hampshire, England

September 20, 2009

A light aircraft crashed in the remote village of Tangley near Andover in the county of Hampshire in England on Sunday, killing two people on board.

The plane crashed at roughly 1300 BST in a field in Tangley and subsequently caught fire. An air ambulance, a rapid response doctor, police officers and fire officers were scrambled to the scene shortly after the crash. Officials from the Air Accident Investigation Branch were also urgently called to the area. Initially, the emergency services were prevented from approaching the aircraft due the torrent of flames that was tearing through it. A probe to investigate the crash is now going to be carried out.

A spokesperson for Hampshire Constabulary stated: "A call was received at 12.40pm today after the plane was seen to come down. Hampshire Fire and Rescue Service are on scene working to put out the blaze and members of the South Central Ambulance Service are also at the sight. Two people who were on board have been confirmed deceased, although it is not yet known how many people were on the aircraft. We haven't been able to get anywhere near to find out how many people are dead because of the fire. We have to be sure that the fuel has been isolated and it is safe." The spokesperson also stated that any other passengers that were on the plane were most likely to be dead.

Neither the itinerary or the take-off point of the aircraft are currently known. It is also unknown exactly how many passengers were on the plane, although the police have stated that it may be a four-seater or a six-seater aircraft. A person speaking on behalf of the members of the South Central Ambulance Service said: "We were called at 12.36 this afternoon to Tangley to reports of a patient who had been injured following a light aircraft crash. However, we believe one patient passed away at the scene."


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Memorial unveiled to mark 50th anniversary of deaths of 47 miners in Lanarkshire, Scotland

September 20, 2009

Friday marks the 50th anniversary of a mining disaster which occured in Lanarkshire, Scotland on September 18, 2009, killing 47 miners. Scotland's First Minister Alex Salmond MSP unveiled a bronze statue and a memorial garden in Moodiesburn on Sunday in front of a crowd of approximately 600.

At roughly 0700 BST on September 18, 1959, 47 men who were working in Auchengeich Collery in North Lanarkshire, Scotland were overcome by smoke as they were walking down to start work. They were subsequently killed after being trapped by a fire in the mine which prevented them from escaping. At the time, a decision had been made to flood the pit after attempts to rescue the men failed. Only one miner had managed to survive the blaze. It transpired that the fire was caused by an electrical fault 1,000 ft below the surface.

First Minister Salmond unveiled a memorial garden and a bronze statue which had been placed to mark the 50th anniversary of the incident. The statue is one of a miner. A religious service was carried out from Bishop Joseph Devine. Tom Clarke, MP for Chryston and Bellshill, also attended the event. Memorial committee chairman Daniel Taylor read out the names of the late 47 people while another person was playing bagpipes in the background.

When the service came to a close, First Minister Salmond commented on the tragedy, saying "The tragedy at Auchengeich Colliery left barely a town, village or mining family in North Lanarkshire unaffected. Fifty years on, the memories of the fateful day which claimed the lives of so many husbands, fathers, brothers and sons endure and I am honoured to pay tribute to them. Scotland is fortunate enough to have been blessed with rich natural resources, from the abundant coal seams of the central belt to the oil and gas reserves off our shores and the emerging renewable energy sources we are just beginning to feel the benefits of. But we should never forget the human cost which has come with that. Just as the Piper Alpha tragedy more than two decades ago underlined the hazards of North Sea exploration, the Auchengeich disaster showed all too starkly the dangers and risks which miners all over Scotland took for granted as part of their job every time they descended the pits. The excellent work of the people of North Lanarkshire and Auchengeich Miners' Welfare has provided this new memorial garden and magnificent bronze sculpture. Together, they are a truly fitting tribute to those 47 brave men who died in Auchengeich half a century ago."


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Premier League: United snatch victory in dramatic Manchester derby

September 21, 2009

Manchester United triumphed yesterday over local rivals Manchester City, with Michael Owen scoring the late injury time winner in a goal-packed match.

Wayne Rooney opened the match with a quick goal for United after 2 minutes, but Gareth Barry equalised after a quarter hour, leaving it 1–1 at half time.

In the second half Darren Fletcher scored two headers, but Craig Bellamy brought City back from behind each time. With Bellamy's second goal coming late in the 90th minute, the teams looked set for a 3–3 draw.

City boss Mark Hughes claimed they were "robbed" after the referee allowed almost seven minutes of injury time. The fourth official signalled four minutes stoppage time, and Owen's dramatic goal came in the sixth minute. Speaking after the match Hughes said, "We need an explanation because I don't know why the referee has added that amount of time on ... I was questioning the amount of time added on even before the game finished."

United manager Alex Ferguson said it was probably "the best derby game of all time", and singled out Owen for particular praise, describing him as "world class". Owen had been brought on in a late substitution, and it was his first goal at Old Trafford, following his transfer from Newcastle United over the summer.

It was also a big occasion for City forward Carlos Tévez, playing for the first time against his former team. Tévez is the first player to move from United to City in a decade, setting a British transfer record of £47 million in the process.

The defeat ends City's unbeaten start to the season, leaving them in fourth place in the Premier League with 12 points. United are second in the table with 15 points, trailing Chelsea.


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Muslim cleric, two officers killed after gun attacks in southern Russia

September 20, 2009

According to officials, a Muslim religious leader and two anti-terrorism officers were killed in the Ingushetia region of Russia on Sunday in two separate gun attacks.

Ingush Interior Ministry spokesman Madina Khadzhiyeva said that the officers were killed by gunfire while driving along a highway in the region at around noon on Sunday.

a spokesperson said.

The RIA news agency reports that searches are ongoing to apprehend the attackers.

Meanwhile, the Karachayevo-Cherkessiya Interior Ministry reported that Ismail Bostanov, a leading Muslim cleric, was was gunned down on the same day, in a separate attack.

The Ministry said it believes the attack was carried out by adherents of Wahhabism, a fundamentalist branch of Islam, a group whose influence Bostanov had attempted to reduce.


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Welsh soap opera Pobol y Cwm celebrates 35 years on air

Friday, October 16, 2009 Welsh language television soap-opera Pobol y Cwm celebrated the 35th anniversary of broadcasting on Friday.

Pobol y Cwm — Welsh for "People of the Valley" — made its first broadcast on BBC One Wales on October 16, 1974. It was transferred onto the Welsh channel S4C in 1982 and has been broadcast there ever since, but is still filmed in the BBC Cymru studios. It is one of the most watched programmes on the Welsh channel and the longest-running television soap-opera produced by the BBC. The episode marking the 35th anniversary of the day the show was debuted was broadcast on Friday.

On the S4C website, the viewing figures state that the show is one of the most watched on the television channel, with viewing figures of around 70,000 on a regular basis. It is also the only soap-opera produced in the United Kingdom that is spoken in a language other than English and one of the two currently running regional soap-operas in the UK, the other being Scottish soap-opera River City. The television programme is the third-longest-running soap-opera overall, behind ITV soap-operas Emmerdale and Coronation Street.

BBC Radio Cymru are to broadcast a programme at 0900 BST on Saturday to celebrate 35 years of programming for the show. Welsh actor Emyr Wyn said about the show: "When PYC started it was the only Welsh language drama on television.

"It’s still an integral part of Welsh-language TV. It’s the only Welsh soap and in the last 10 years it’s become even more accessible. It has lots of non-Welsh speaking viewers too. PYC is on Sky+ and I remember getting a shock when I went to a skiing chalet in France years ago and switched on the television and PYC came on!"


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Hi, and thanks for creating the page Team stayGOLD! steps up to ESEA-Invite after defeating undefeated x3o. Unfortunately, it had to be deleted, as it didn't meet our criteria for inclusion; specifically, it didn't appear to be news and/or didn't discuss a current event. Please see Welcome to learn how to constructively contribute to Wikinews. Thanks for your understanding. Tempodivalse [talk]  02:25, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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God's speed to those involved and injured. You show a file photo of an inline 4 cylinder "chopper" stating that this is the type of chopper involved in this accident. I hardly think that is the case. You should have done your homework and presented a better example of what those people were riding which would be a V twin, unless of course you were out to make them all look like dorks who would ride such a machine, the inline 4. Joe Smith

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Politicians and protesters prepare for G20 summit

September 22, 2009

World leaders and protesters are heading to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in the eastern United States for the G20 summit set to begin this Thursday in Pittsburgh. Politicians at the summit will be discussing ways to help solve the global financial crisis while protesters will advocate everything from universal health care to an end to capitalism.

Activists met in Pittsburgh on Saturday to discuss the issues they wanted to push. Speakers included state senator Jim Ferlo of Pittsburgh who rebuked what he called the myth of the free market.

"I want to unite people in peaceful speech and peaceful discussion," Ferlo said. "I encourage each one of you to take to the streets this week."

An extra 4,000 police have been transported to Pittsburgh ahead of the summit, and between 100 and 200 nonviolent prisoners were released from the local jail to make room for protesters.

Meanwhile the G20 leaders are sparring over whether or not to cap banker bonuses in financial industries. G20 ministers also plan to discuss rising protectionism.

At the Group of 8 meeting earlier this year in London the group decided to pledge $750 billion to the International Monetary Fund (IMF). The IMF is seeking for more money from the G20 and is responsible for loaning money to countries in exchange for the implementation of free market policies. G20 countries are responsible for 80% of the world's trade.


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Ummm... the Lisbon Treaty *is*, on the very surface of it, a rewrite of the EU constitution. That's exactly what the people who wrote it and the people who promote it say that it is. Heck, I'm from Canada, and the media here doesn't report on the EU at all, and even I know that. So saying that it is "being hidden" that this is a re-write of the constitution is disingenuous at best. That was the whole point, since the current EU constitution is... well, utterly useless (primarily because everything important requires a unanimous vote, and you'll almost never have a situation where absolutely everyone agrees on what to do). Gopher65talk 15:25, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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Students in Rhode Island school attacked by wasps

September 21, 2009

Dozens of students and teachers were stung by yellow jacket wasps Monday at a middle school in Cranston. The attack occurred around 10:45 a.m., according to Ray Votto, the chief operating officer for Cranston Public Schools.

It is suspected that during a routine fire drill, students exiting the building disturbed the wasps' nest in a field behind the school. Votto said, "When kids exited towards the back of the school building near our portable classrooms, they walked into a field and may have disrupted a nest".

The Cranston Fire Department and school nurses responded to the scene to provide medical assistance. A total of 25 students, one of whom was hospitalized, and four teachers were stung, some multiple times. All of the students and one teacher were sent home.


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Ten dead after earthquake in Bhutan

September 21, 2009

Local officials have said that an earthquake, measuring 6.1 on the Richter scale, has struck Bhutan, killing at least ten people and damaging many buildings. The US Geological Survey said that the epicentre of the tremor was located along the country's southern border with India, 180 kilometres (110 miles) east of Bhutan's capital Thimphu.

Bhutanese director of disaster management Ugyen Tenzing said that rescue teams were searching the rubble of collapsed buildings for survivors. Tenzing said that "it's hard to determine the extent of the damage at the moment. There is still information coming in."

"We are anticipating that most of the houses are now down, destroyed," said Bhutan Home Minister Minjur Dorji. He also added that "these are not like you see in the metropolitan cities, like concrete houses. These are made of wood, mud and stone, generally two-storied houses."

The local governor, Lungthen Dorji, said, "houses, and monasteries and roads have been damaged. Mobile services are clogged."

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Carter: US "likely behind" Venezuela coup

September 23, 2009

Former U.S. president Jimmy Carter told Venezuelan newspaper El Tiempo that the United States was "likely behind" the failed 2002 coup that briefly unseated democratically elected president Hugo Chávez.

A coup by a civilian-military junta in 2002 removed president Chávez from office, but he quickly regained the position.

"I think there is no doubt that in 2002, the United States had at the very least full knowledge about the coup, and could even have been directly involved," Carter told El Tiempo on Sunday. The Bush administration denied any involvement in the coup. Carter went on to say that it was understandable that Chávez still blames the U.S. for the coup.

Carter also stated his mixed feelings about Chávez, praising him for his social reforms but denouncing him for being uncooperative in making peace with the U.S.


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More than 100 killed in southern Sudan tribal clash

September 21, 2009

The army of southern Sudan says more than 100 people were killed when a local tribe attacked a rival group in the southern state of.

Gunmen from the tribe attacked a village of the  tribe on Sunday, driving away security forces who were guarding the remote settlement of Duk Padiet. army spokesman Kuol Diem Kuol said Monday that the dead include 23 attackers, 28 security forces, and more than 50 villagers, with 46 more injured.

"From the attackers 23 bodies were found on the ground. These attackers were found in uniform with arms and organized in a military organisation in platoons with ," Kuol said.

Jonglei state has experienced multiple deadly clashes involving the Lou Nuer, the Dinka Hol, and other tribes this year.

The area has long been the scene of violent cattle raids between the groups. Southern Sudanese officials say northern Sudan's ruling party is organizing the attacks to spark conflict and undermine the 2005 that ended Sudan's civil war, which calls for the semi-autonomous south to vote on full independence in 2011.

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Memorial service held for Sir Bobby Robson in Durham Cathedral, England

September 22, 2009

A memorial service was held in the Durham Cathedral in England to honour the late soccer manager Sir Bobby Robson.

Sir Bobby Robson was born on February 18, 1933 and had died on July 31, 2009, aged 76 after a fifth, long battle with lung cancer. A memorial service was held on Monday to honour the late world-famous former football manager of Manchester United F.C. in County Durham, in the north of England. The service was broadcast live on Sky News and on Sky News Online. Football fans were also able to watch the ceremony on giant screens in St James' Park in Newcastle and in Ipswich town centre.

The congregation at the service was very large. It was attended by such famous people as Terry Venables, Sir Alex Ferguson, Paul Gascoigne, Gary Lineker, Katherine Jenkins, David Moyes, Harry Redknapp, Steve Bruce, Mick McCarthy, Ant & Dec, and a whole host of other celebrities. Gary Lineker paid tribute to Robson, and said: "He made me feel 7ft tall. When he first called me up for England, I was nervous arriving at the hotel in Wrexham for a game against Wales, meeting up with stars I idolised like Bryan Robson, but Bobby was waiting for me in reception. He'd seen something in my game I wasn't even aware of myself. He put me on the bench to face Wales but did bring me down to earth somewhat when he pointed at me with about 20 minutes to go and said: 'Get warmed up, Garth'."

Lineker also added: "Two World Cup campaigns and a European Championship over a six-year period was easily enough time for me to realise that Sir Bobby was indeed not just a brilliant leader of men, who brought the absolute best out of his players, but also without question the single most enthusiastic and passionate man I've ever met in football. From Ronaldo to Robson, from Gascoigne to Given, from Shilton to Shearer and from Wark to Waddle, the gaffer was hugely supportive and fiercely loyal. In return the players loved him and respected him. He was everything that was good about the game. He loved the game and the game loved him. He was a lion of a man – no, make that Three Lions," he said, referring to the nickname for the England national football club.

Robson's best man, Tom Wilson, said: "He had innate charm and a ready smile, but was modest all his life, even somewhat shy – though he had largely overcome that in later life. He was always passionate about football, had a deep love of his family and great loyalty to his old friends, with a touching and justifiable pride in his beautiful home up here in his beloved North-East. Friends have said to me you should never finish a eulogy with a cliche, such as 'we will never see his like again'. But we won't."

Bobby Robson played for five football clubs, one of them the England international football team. He also managed nine football teams across Europe. He had been survived by his wife Lady Elsie since their marriage in June 1955, and also survived by his three children Paul, Andrew and Mark. His family had held a private funeral service for him in August.


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US army commander in Afghanistan asks for more troops in leaked report

September 22, 2009

A report from the new US and NATO commander in Afghanistan says there is an urgent need for more foreign troops and civilians, more Afghan forces and a new strategic approach to reverse Taliban gains.

The assessment by US Army General Stanley McChrystal is still officially secret, but the Washington Post published an unclassified version on Monday, which it says has only a few deletions requested by the government.

In the document, the general, who arrived in Afghanistan in June, says "success is not ensured by additional forces alone, but continued under-resourcing will likely cause failure."

He writes that the US and NATO effort has long been "under-resourced," and that must change within 12 months or the coalition "risks an outcome where defeating the insurgency is no longer possible." He says a lack of even the "minimum" resources is "a recipe for failure" in a counterinsurgency," and the Taliban and related groups have made significant gains in recent years as a result.

The report says that "failure to gain the initiative and reverse insurgent momentum in the near-term [next year] — while Afghan security capacity matures — risks an outcome where defeating the insurgency is no longer possible."

General McChrystal says while the Afghan government and military "must ultimately defeat the insurgency," the coalition can not wait for the Afghans to be capable enough to do the job alone.

Although the Washington Post published most of the document on its website, Pentagon Spokesman Bryan Whitman declined to discuss its details, calling it "pre-decisional" and "classified."

"The national security team, to include the commander-in-chief, have it. They are reviewing it. They will use it to help them make decisions about the future. The secretary [of Defense] is absorbing the assessment along with the president. If there are decisions that flow from that, they will make them at the appropriate time," the spokesman said.

Whitman would not say when McChrystal will make his expected detailed request for more troops, or when a decision might be made.

On the president's aircraft Monday, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters that while the general may want more troops, he does not expect a formal request for a little while. "We are going to conduct that strategic assessment and do that in a way that lays out the best path forward before we make resource decisions, rather than having this go the other way around where one makes resources decisions and then finds a strategy," Gibbs said.

Gibbs said any decision on troop levels will wait until the conclusion of a broader assessment of the way forward in Afghanistan, of which he indicated McChrystal's document is only one part.

Last week, US Defense Secretary Robert Gates appealed for patience, saying these are extremely important decisions, and the president should be given the time to get them right. The secretary indicated he, the president and other senior officials have sent questions to McChrystal about his assessment, and are awaiting his answers.

In the document, the general was critical of NATO forces, saying that they are "poorly configured" to fight an insurgency. He says if NATO countries continue to be "pre-occupied" with protecting their forces rather than protecting the people and accomplishing the mission, they "run the risk of strategic defeat." He said the coalition must operate "dramatically differently — even uncomfortably differently."

He also repeated some of his earlier calls for more civilian help and a new approach by his troops that makes the security of the Afghan people their top priority. He said the coalition is in a "war of ideas," in which he says it must demonstrate its commitment and its ability to deliver security without causing undue civilian casualties.

In an interview with Voice of America, Afghanistan Ambassador to the United Nations Zahir Tanin endorsed General McChrystal's sense of urgency, and his view that while a comprehensive approach is needed, security comes first. "From a military point of view, I think without enough resources, without the ability to stop the Taliban's advances, it would be very difficult to make any progress in other areas, including political progress in Afghanistan," Tanin said.

Ambassador Tanin said McChrystal is in the best position to assess the security needs and if there is a need for more forces, the Afghan government must support such a request.

He also rejected concerns expressed by some, including Secretary Gates, that sending more foreign troops could alienate the Afghan people. The ambassador says the key for Afghans is not how many foreign troops there are or what strategy they implement, but whether they deliver security and defeat the insurgents.

In the report, McChrystal concluded that "while the situation is serious, success is still achievable." But he said the effort needs "a fundamentally new approach" that is "properly resourced and supported" throughout the coalition and across military and civilian agencies.


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Prosecutors begin NY State Sen. Hiram Monserrate felony assault case

September 22, 2009

At the opening of the criminal trial against New York State Senator Hiram Monserrate on Monday on charges of felony assault, prosecutors explained the motive behind his alleged attack on his girlfriend Karla Giraldo.

During opening arguments in the case, prosecutor Scott Kessler stated that when Monserrate discovered that his girlfriend had the business card of another man, he chose to strike out at her. According to prosecutor Kessler, Monserrate "struck her in a jealous rage". Monserrate has entered a plea of not guilty to charges he sliced his girlfriend's face with broken glass during a conflict at their apartment in December 2008.

According to the account given in court by prosecutors, Giraldo asked her boyfriend Monserrate for a glass of water. Prosecutors said that in response, Monserrate stated "You want the water? You want the water? Here’s your water!" – and proceeded to cut her face using the glass. At the hospital, Giraldo reportedly told healthcare workers: "I can’t believe he did this to me. My face! My face!".

The defense team denied that the injury to the woman by Monserrate was intentional, instead claiming that the incident was "an accident". Monserrate's lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, said "What happened was an accident. There were only two people behind those closed doors and they both say it was an accident. You wonder why they even brought this case. It's nothing more than rank speculation." In Tacopina's account of the incident, Monserrate was bringing his girlfriend a glass of water and tripped – and Giraldo woke up and the glass collided into her face. Tacopina characterized her injuries as "a freak accident".

Kessler asserted that the incident was not an accident on the part of Monserrate. Referring to Monserrate's emotions at the time of the incident, Kessler said "This case is about power and control. He didn't just want that card thrown out, he wanted it destroyed." According to prosecutors in the case, Giraldo originally stated to law enforcement officials that she had been attacked, and said to a nurse at the hospital where she was treated that her boyfriend had cut her face. The injuries to Giraldo's face necessitated 20 stitches in the area surrounding her left eye. After Giraldo found out that Monserrate would be arrested in the matter, she recanted her statements.

Supreme Court Justice William Erlbaum will judge the case without a jury, as Monserrate waived his right for a trial before his peers. If convicted, Democrat Sen. Monserrate could serve prison time and lose his New York State Senate seat.

The group National Organization for Women has requested that the judge rule Monserrate should be given "the maximum sentence allowable by law". In an email to supporters, the organization said: "Call or write the Honorable William M. Erlbaum. Send a message that violence against women must be stopped and perpetrators must be brought to justice." Included was a form letter with the message: "I implore you to do the right thing by punishing Senator Monserrate, giving him the maximum sentence allowable by law. By doing so, you will be sending a very important message and that is that violence against women is a serious crime."

In response to complaints from Monserrate's attorney that the group's actions were inappropriate, the president of the organization in New York Marcia Pappas said "We’re imploring him to do the right thing. I’m sure the judge knows what he needs to do, so his position is not compromised."

Monserrate is a former city councilman. He became a member of the New York State Senate weeks after the conflict with Giraldo, and was made chair of the committee overseeing consumer affairs. Along with Democrat Pedro Espada Jr., Monserrate started a shift in control of the Senate by aligning with the Republican Party.


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Manchester United?
I think somethings wrong, it says he's the late manager of Manchester united. Sir Bobby Robson, (according at least to Manchester United's and His Own wikipedia Page), Never managed or even played for Manchester United. Here's a list of teams he managed: 1968 	       Fulham 1969–1982 	Ipswich Town 1982–1990 	England 1990–1992 	PSV Eindhoven 1992–1994 	Sporting CP 1994–1996 	Porto 1996–1997 	Barcelona 1998–1999 	PSV Eindhoven 1999–2004 	Newcastle United


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Title

 * The original title on this was appallingly long and should have been shortened prior to review and publication. Now, my only gripe is that "felony" is a particularly US-centric term, it is then norm for an assault (a civil proceeding would be the unusual enough case to highlight that legal aspect), and as such is really just a "noise" word in the current title. --Brian McNeil / talk 01:03, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: It was moved, by myself, prior to review. Cirt (talk) 01:06, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * And "felony" is key here - if convicted of a felony, the politician would be forced to resign from his post. Any lesser conviction, and that would not be the case. Cirt (talk) 01:07, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


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OMG WASPS. ZOMG SO SCARY.

I wassss attttacked by wasps. I'm such a man.
 * God sent these wasps to punish the children for attending socialist government school. 206.74.5.136 (talk) 14:53, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Face it, we're both atheists - I just believe in one god less than you. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

dang athist

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There must have been quite a buzz about that story. I bet that that really was a sting in the tail LOL --Rayboy8 (talk) 19:31, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Wimps!
They should try being stung by a hornet - and I'm not talking about one of |these pathetic little things either. I'm talking about three-four inches of angy red-and-yellow bastard stinging your ear while seven or eight of his mates buzz round trying to get a look in. Wasps? They're nothing! Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:39, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


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User:Danlev

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title: User:Danlev