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Author of My Billion Year Contract reflects on life in elite Scientology group

January 14, 2010

Wikinews interviewed author Nancy Many about her book My Billion Year Contract, and asked her about life working in the elite Scientology group known as the "Sea Org". Many joined Scientology in the early 1970s, and after leaving in 1996 she later testified against the organization. Published in October, Many's book has gone on to become one of the top selling new books on Scientology at Amazon.com.

Background
Scientology was founded by writer L. Ron Hubbard in 1952. At the time Many joined in the early 1970s, she was a college student attending Salem State College in Massachusetts. She agreed to become a member of the elite Scientology group known as the "Sea Org" in 1972 – the title of her book refers to a document she signed when joining that group.

She moved to Scientology's base of operations in Clearwater, Florida, and rose to a high-ranking position within the organization. Many describes how she recruited others into the organization, and sold Scientology products to celebrities. She participated in intelligence operations as a spy working for a secret unit within Scientology, and she writes that she covertly became part of the mental-health-care community in Boston, Massachusetts.

Many recounts how Scientology executives decided to remove her from her leadership position within the organization. As laid out in the book, she was instructed to reside in a parking garage, remove herself from family, and perform hard labor. Her account highlights she was ordered to perform these tasks by Scientology officials whilst five-months pregnant. These experiences led her to later have a mental breakdown and eventually leave Scientology.

My Billion Year Contract was first published in October. Since then it has risen to the second spot among recent best selling books about Scientology on the website Amazon.com – the number one spot is held by Marc Headley's book, Blown for Good.

Catholic Online associate editor and former Archbishop of the Charismatic Episcopal Church, Randy Sly, compared My Billion Year Contract to other insider accounts by former Scientologists, including Headley's and that of Monica Pignotti. "Their books and essays, along with many others, have publicly called into question a number of Scientology beliefs, claims and practices over many years," wrote Sly.

In an article this month about the book for The Boston Phoenix, Chris Faraone wrote, "even if just some of her trials really happened [...] her new memoir might still be the most shocking nonfiction work featured at this week's American Library Association (ALA) Midwinter Meeting in Boston." Faraone commented, "My Billion Year Contract is a horror story."

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''' Can you describe a little bit about yourself and your background, and how you came to be interested in Scientology?

Nancy Many: I was a college student, just starting out in the early 70’s. It was a time of turmoil, Civil Rights, Women’s Rights, The deaths of JFK, MLK and Bobby Kennedy were still close to our time period. Viet Nam was polarizing the nation and dividing families. Woodstock had happened a few years before. The culture held no real anchors – it seemed everyone was experimenting. The progam to become a counselor at my college was losing it’s funding, I had just broken up with a long term boyfriend, and every one I knew was either into drugs or Alcohol. Never big on alcohol I was growing tired of the drugs.

''' When you first started getting involved in Scientology, what attracted you to it?

NM: That they were going to make the world a better place, that they did not do drugs and lived a communal lifestyle.

''' What positive aspects did you gain from your experiences in Scientology? What benefits does Scientology have to offer people who take its courses?

NM: I gained more self confidence, I gained an ability to work in sales. In the first course I gained the ability to quiet my mind and to just exist in the universe. I think these same benefits are there today for new people, but do I think they are worth the Price Charged, or Years of one’s life given --- No I do not. Last I checked to do all of Scientology, and make it to the top of the bridge – Operating Thetan 8, it would cost approximately $250,000. In the old days you could sign a contract for up to a Billion Years and get those services at no cost, but to my knowledge that is not the type of counseling staff are getting now. And if you did leave before your particular contract was over, you will receive what is called a “FreeLoader Bill”, a total of all the services that you received in exchange for your working for them. The current and past food and pay situation for staff members is below the illegal workers in this country.

''' If you desired something that Scientology offered - and felt you gain positively from some of your experiences while inside the organization - have you sought out and found such values elsewhere, for example, spirituality or another form of a religious belief system?

NM: After I left Scientology I did make a list of all the courses, things I learned, personal abilities I had and what I liked from it. Over the years I have been able to find much of what I liked in other philosophies written years ago by different authors. L. Ron Hubbard originally acknowledged all those learned men in the beginning of the book Science of Survival, but over the years that list has dwindled, until now it seems that L. Ron Hubbard invented all this material. What I will give him credit for is that he put it in simple, modern day English, so it was easier to grasp, but of my list of things I have found useful, I was able to find them elsewhere, and for a much less expensive price.

''' You speak in the book about the psychology term cognitive dissonance, which you describe as "the feeling of uncomfortable tension, which comes from holding two conflicting thoughts at the same time. This can cause an individual to fight within their minds to somehow make it make sense." (p. 54) Do you still experience cognitive dissonance when reflecting on your experiences in Scientology? Why and how so?

NM: I no longer experience Cognitive Dissonance when reflecting on my experiences in Scientology. I have done further study of it and find it to be a common human ailment.

"Cognitive Dissonance is a state of tension that occurs whenever a person holds two cognitions (ideas, attitudes, beliefs, opinions) that are psychologically inconsistent such as 'Smoking is a dumb thing because it could kill me' and 'I smoke two packs a day.' Dissonance produces mental discomfort, ranging from minor pangs to deep anguish; people don’t rest easy until they find a way to reduce it." (Mistakes Were Made, But Not By Me, Carol Travis.)

I experienced several levels of Cognitive Dissonance while in Scientology. They say Church on the door, but the day to day operations are not those of a church – those contrary thoughts were assuaged for years because of the Hubbard Policy – Religion 1970, wherein he stated something like we are a religion for accountant and attorneys, nothing about our daily operations will change. That plus the line that I was often given and gave to others new to the Church –it’s not a faith, it is an Applied Religious Philosophy, non-denominational in nature, you can still belong to your own church and be a Scientology.

That held my discomfort together until years later I read the Messianic Program, wherein Hubbard laid out the steps to make himself the next Messiah for planet earth.

Another cognitive dissonance was why are we attempting to destroy and take over the entire field of mental health, if we are a church, well the same answer, we aren’t really a church.

When LRH [L. Ron Hubbard] himself wrote to me that he wished he had never gone the "Church" route at all, it made me happy and erased the tension of the Cognitive Dissonance.

Why were the prices so high? If we were supposed to Clear the Planet, and help make the world a better place, then why did we charge so much? Very few people could afford that level of money and still survive and raise a family.

''' In the book you write, "I have studied the research done on the power that groups can hold over individuals and the mindsets and peer pressures that got me to that place." (p. 92.) What types of resources did you use for this study? Can you recommend any references for others wishing to learn about this topic?

NM: Opening Skinners Box: Great Psychological Experiments of the Twentieth Century by Lauren Slater

The Lucifer Effect: How Good People Turn Evil by Phil Zimbardo

Mistakes Were Made (But Not by Me) by Carol Tavris

''' It is understandable that the act of writing down your experiences on paper could be a cathartic process but - why publicize it as a book?

NM: As I write in my Preface the book was written almost two years ago, but the fear of publishing books on the subject of Scientology, got it no where in the area of publishing, Scientology is too frightening and scares even large publishing houses. I even got turned away by a "Print on Demand" – where I pay for it myself. They were just to frightened of repercussions on them as a company and on the staff as individuals.

But one night, an old friend who had been in Scientology for 36 years and had reached the highest most level in Scientology (Operating Thetan Level 8) arrived at my door suicidal. I knew I had to do more. For the past 10 years I had been dealing with Mentally Troubled individuals one on one, but this woman brought to my door the fact that what I was doing wasn’t even cracking the egg of mental abuse. So I took my book off the shelf and my husband and I started our own publishing company.

''' Did you fear publicizing your experiences could subject you and your family to the Scientology practice of "Fair Game" ?

NM: Of course. In my particular case they had already interrogated me to the point of psychotic meltdown, and there wasn't much more they could do to me. I hear the clicks on my phone, I’ve gotten the private investigator with the CIA past placed on my car. I’ve had people show up. But as long as I am truthful and don't make things worse than they were, nor better than they were, this is America, land of Free Speech. While working to get the book out (in those two months) I came to learn of 3 more deaths of people who experienced mental breakdowns while under the care of Scientologist, it only spurred me on.

''' Have you experienced anything from Scientology after publicizing your story that you feel is retribution or a form of Fair Game?

NM: I'm never certain if it is coincidence or not, but yes little things, not like the others that are coming out now and testifying at court cases. I also think Scientology is a little busy with just being declared a Fraud by the Government of France, Belgium has been preparing their law suit and should be coming out shortly. Here in America, the current head of Scientology and the corporation have just been served with a lawsuit on human trafficking. An eight year old boy was signed up with the Sea Org (Billion Year Contract) and he was put to work scrubbing pots and pans from that young age. I know of under aged children who signed Billion Year Contracts, they were promised their High School educations, which they never got, but those children were 13 or 14 – this is an 8 year old boy. Senator Xenophon in Australia has just stood up and asked for a government inquiry to the human abuses of Scientology. His documentation includes part of my book. Yes there are many things they can do to me, but I am tired of them Mentally and otherwise abusing people to the point of suicide.

I think they are spread a little too thin and there is nothing in my book that was not posted on the internet, either under my pseudonym “Kathryn”, or in internet posts. In addition I was on the stand in court for one of the Lisa McPherson hearings on her death, and they had free opportunity to question me on these matters.

''' Towards the end of your book you describe how you still kept in touch with a son who was still actively taking Scientology courses - and that you had friends still working in the organization. Have you experienced the Scientology practice of "Disconnection"? Have any of these people been instructed by Scientology to cease communication with you?

NM: My son is his own person, and I am proud he makes his own decisions. We don’t discuss it other than the discussion I described in the book.

Yes I have had people Disconnect from me, and it is sad. I used to be a member of this group, so I also disconnected from others. It is so freeing to now be able to decide who is a friend and who is not – on my own with no other influences.

''' During the recounting in the book of your mental breakdown, you cite your husband and family as key factors in helping and supporting you. What else, or who else - what other factors have helped you recover from your mental break after disengaging from Scientology?

NM: The other factors that helped were that I did have a lot of friends who were not and had never been Scientologists, so I could hang with them and the subject would never come up. Thereby not "triggering" me back to Scientology language or way of life.

I also have/had a deep faith in God and an internal strength that made me pull my way out of the intermittent hell that lasted for years. I knew this was life or death. There were simply people or places I could not be around.

' Recently another book by a former member of Scientology's Sea Org was published, Blown for Good'' by Marc Headley. Have you read other books on Scientology? What other books about the organization (other than those produced by it) stand out for you as important in understanding its impact and the internal workings of the movement?

NM: I love Marc Headly's book and feel very strongly that our books are so different that they (together) give a vivid and 3 dimensional view of the world of Scientology.

I have read all other books about Scientology that were not in a good light. The one that stands out for me as the best of all time is Helen O'Brien's Book entitled Dianetics In Limbo. She was an early Dianeticist and joined during the first wave of Dianetics in the early 50's. Some things have never changed and that is why that early book is such an important read.

''' You worked for Scientology's intelligence division the "Guardian's Office" (GO) and then later for the current incarnation of its intelligence department, the "Office of Special Affairs" (OSA). (pp. 154-155, 289.) From your experiences working for GO and OSA, does the workings of the management of operatives by these groups differ? How so?

NM: The largest difference in the management of operatives is who those operative are. In the GO days many were Scientologists and Private investigators rarely used. Now it is the opposite, the Church has attorneys – with whom they have privilege, and it is the Attorney's who hire the Private Investigators. Now if a PI gets caught during an operation, it can only go back as far as the Attorney, the church is protected. There is a deposition on the internet about one of the Churches attorney's who was present when the discussion of breaking into the opposing attorney’s doctor’s office was discussed – by Church Executive, lawyers and PI’s. That, to me, is no different than what the GO used to do, like break into an enemy’s doctors office and get their files.

''' You recount in the book how you later felt badly about things you did while in the organization, including "stealing library books that were negative toward Scientology". (p 199) Was this type of action a common practice in the GO? OSA? Sea Org in general?

NM: Stealing, or taking out an not returning books from libraries that put Scientology in a negative light. I know it was done for years, I would not be surprised if it is still done, but I have no proof. The libraries would though.

''' How do you think Scientology management can improve the way it conducts its operations? If you were the head of the organization, what would you do differently - what would you change about Scientology practices?

NM: If I were the head of Scientology Management at this time, I would strip it back to basics. Stop all Human Abuse and Human Rights abuses, and then have an open forum as to whether it wants to be a "Church" or wants to be a Self Help Group. Church’s ask for titheing (based on your income) a Self Help group has fixed prices for it’s counseling and services.

Scientology now has "Fixed Donations" the weirdest oxymoron I have ever heard.

''' Looking back on your experiences in Scientology, you describe several instances in the book where you considered leaving the organization or at least leaving the Sea Org - most notably when you were ordered into the "Rehabilitation Project Force" while you were pregnant. (pp. 85-94.) Why did you choose to stay?

NM: I felt I had no choice but to stay, we had no non-scientology people in our lives to give us safety and help us get on our feet. I was five months pregnant –who is going to give me a job. And we literally had no money. We had been with them as a group and only with them as a group for about a decade, you lose touch with family friends etc who are not scientologists. If we left we would be put on the “to be shunned list” and none of our public Scientologists who had jobs for us could help us, without severe consequences to them.

The people who had left before us, they become non persons and you have no idea where they went. I wanted to leave without being put on the shunning list, which we eventually were able to do, that allowed us to get help from other friends who had previously left the Sea Org, but not Scientology.

' In the appendix of the book you reference and discuss The Lucifer Effect'' by psychologist Philip Zimbardo. You cite how "Zimbardo isolated 7 social processes that grease the slippery slope of evil," and acknowledge, "I found myself in all of these seven steps, to a greater or lesser degree. ... In hindsight, I can see each on of these points were present in the apple barrel of Scientology that I lived through." Which of Zimbardo's steps were most applicable to your experiences in Scientology? Knowing what you know now from the knowledge in Zimbardo's book, how would you approach this differently in the future if placed in a similar situation again?

NM: The step for me was "Mindlessly taking the first step", there was no internet back then. Books against Scientology had either been removed from the libraries or never been allowed to be printed. The first class I took when I left Scientology was called "Critical Thinking" – If I had taken that course PRIOR to Scientology, I doubt I would have mindlessly taken that first step.

Today we have the internet, which allows us free speech, and we now have a lot of free speech about Scientology – They still try to "Steal the library books of the internet", but funny, now that just makes more copies.

''' Several popular culture references are made in the book to illustrate your experiences. You talk about the film Poltergeist and how your husband compared it to his experience of pulling you out of your psychosis (p. 219). You reference the film The Omen as a way to describe L. Ron Hubbard's view in a purported version of the Scientology level "OT 8" that you read on the Internet, writing, "[Hubbard] said that he had his next mission lined up that was to come back in a healthy body and join politics - a modern-day Damien from The Omen." (p. 202) Scientology has itself been the subject of depictions in popular culture, for example the Obie Award-winning satirical musical A Very Merry Unauthorized Children's Scientology Pageant, and the Emmy-nominated parody episode "Trapped in the Closet" by the comedy program South Park. Have you seen any parodies or depictions of Scientology in popular culture? What are your thoughts about them?

NM: These were all great shows. I went to the "Unauthorized Children’s Scientology Pageant", with my youngest son who had been through the roughest parts of my mental collapse with me, and we just laughed and laughed. It was so great. If it’s in your town, don’t miss it.

The South Park episode was great. I kept it on my replay for months so I could watch again with friends (ex Scn or never Scn) who had missed it.

''' Do you have any thoughts or advice for others either curious to find out more information about Scientology or those seeking to leave the organization?

NM: If you are thinking about joining, stick to the internet for a while, a long while – they have their own websites, so you can see both sides.

For those seeking to leave the Sea Organization, just get up and walk out. If they touch you you have a million dollar lawsuit – but how to get the information inside to you????

''' Are there any other points regarding your experiences that you would like to elaborate on or explain?

NM: I wish the public, especially America, would not be so star struck that they ignore the Human Rights Abuses happening within our own borders, or just find it too had to believe.

A friend of mine told a famous actress my story, and she couldn’t believe it, come to find out another friend of theirs had reported the same thing and they had simply thought she was delusional.

' Nancy Many, thank you for taking the time to participate in this interview with Wikinews''.

NM: You’re Welcome.


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The president of Uganda, Yoweri Museveni, has distanced himself from a controversial bill in the Parliament that would make certain acts of homosexuality punishable by death. Until President Museveni publicly spoke out, this proposal was widely supported by the ruling majority party, the National Resistance Movement (NRM), and, as a result, was expected to easily pass with a significant number of votes in its favor.

In a nation where homosexuality is already a criminal offense punishable by up to fourteen years in jail, this bill would raise that penalty to life in prison. It would also dole out the death penalty for any offense categorized as "aggravated homosexuality"—meaning a case in which one of the participants is either a minor, HIV-positive, or a "serial offender."

Museveni stressed in this statement on Wednesday, that the Member of Parliament who drafted the legislation in question, although he is a member of the NRM, was not following government policy and did so solely as an individual.

Museveni, who admitted being at the center of widespread international criticism, said in the same statement that this matter was now a "foreign policy issue," and therefore his government, Parliament included, "must take into account [Uganda's] foreign policy interests."

Case in point, Sweden has since threatened to cut financial support to the small African nation if this bill does in fact go through. In addition, numerous other world powers over the past weeks have contacted Museveni directly to elaborate upon their objections.

Following which, a frustrated Museveni told the BBC, "The Prime Minister of Canada came to see me and what was he talking about? Gays. Prime Minister Gordon Brown came to see me and what was he talking about? Gays. Mrs. Clinton rang me. What was she talking about? Gays."

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Gay Uganda?

 * When the Ugandan threat to kill gays first surfaced, I spotted a tweet that particularly amused me, I'll try and get it right but this is a quote from memory.
 * "I'm looking for a new business opportunity. Gay travel and adventure holidays seem fairly recession-proof, think I'll start GoGoGayUganda.com" --Brian McNeil / talk 04:12, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

If Ugandan pass the bill the US/EU/UN have to cut all aid to that nation.--KDP3 (talk) 12:07, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

 * I agree. It won't happen, but I do agree. If we're lucky there'll be some UN sanctions, though, but they never really stop oppressive regiemes. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:26, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

He should focus on fighting corruption, public works, education and general good government. Then they would not be in such desperate need for skapegoats.

Let's see Uganda has:

The 3rd highest birth rate in the world. (2.4x the world average & 3.5x the united states) The 9th highest rate of HIV deaths. 1/3rd of the population is illiterate. a per capita GDP of $1300. (That's 2.7% of productivity in the US)

oh, and less than 8% of the population has internet access. (source for all: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ug.html)

So obviously killing gays should be high on the priority list, right?

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Countries around the world send aid, help to Haiti

January 14, 2010 Countries and organizations from around the world are sending aid and help to victims of the devastating 7.0 magnitude earthquake that struck Haiti on Tuesday, damaging many buildings. The death toll is currently unknown, but estimated to run into the tens of thousands of people.

US president Barack Obama said in a press conference that "I've directed my administration to launch a swift, coordinated and aggressive effort to save lives and support the recovery in Haiti."

Obama announced that aid from the US armed forces was coming to Haiti, noting, "Several Coast Guard cutters are already there providing everything from basic services like water, to vital technical support for this massive logistical operation."

Obama continued: "[...] today, I'm also announcing an immediate investment of $100 million to support our relief efforts. This will mean more of the life-saving equipment, food, water and medicine that will be needed. This investment will grow over the coming year as we embark on the long-term recovery from this unimaginable tragedy."

Obama said that the US would forge partnerships with Haitian people and Haitian-Americans, along with United Nations peacekeepers. He closed by saying, "To the people of Haiti, we say clearly, and with conviction, you will not be forsaken; you will not be forgotten. In this, your hour of greatest need, America stands with you. The world stands with you." The UN Secretary-General, Ban Ki-moon said that $10 million is being released from the international organization's central emergency response fund.

Meanwhile, the UN's World Food Programme (WFP), which already has an existing operation in the country, is beginning to distribute high energy biscuits which require no preparation before eating. On top of that, the WFP is airlifting 86 metric tons of food from their emergency hub in El Salvador.

A spokesperson for the WFP said, "In a normal day the World Food Programme will be feeding one or two million people in Haiti — and now we need to do even more, because the people have lost everything."

China is also pledging aid to the country, despite the lack of official diplomatic ties between the two countries. Haiti recognizes the Republic of China, better known as Taiwan. Nevertheless, China has sent a 60 member search and rescue team to Haiti and the Chinese Red Cross is donating one million dollars in emergency aid.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Jiang Yu said her country expresses sympathy to the Haitian government and people. Jiang says the Chinese foreign minister has sent a telegram of condolence to his Haitian counterparts.

An 80 member team from the United Kingdom of search and rescue specialists has arrived in Haiti to help in efforts there. British Prime Minister Gordon Brown said in a joint press conference with Toaiseach of Ireland Brian Cowen that the team has arrived in the country. He also announced that the government is pledging to match the UN's US$10 million (£6.1 million). Brown said, “It is a tragedy beyond imagination and there is a deep sense of loss felt by the whole of the British and Irish people about the tragedy that individual families in Haiti are experiencing at the moment. We send our message of sympathy and support to the people of Haiti at this most difficult of times."

He added, “Where men, women and children are suffering under the heaviest of burdens, that place must, for that moment, become the centre of our world’s attention, the world’s compassion and the world’s humanitarian help.”

France is also sending aid to the French-speaking country, which at one time was a colony of France known as Saint-Domingue. France is sending two planes with rescuers and aid. Civil safety authorities in France are sending a team of 130 members consisting of rescuers, trained rescue dogs, doctors and nurses along with 12,000 tons of aid and rescue supplies.

Israel is sending rescue forces in two El Al planes carrying a 121-member delegation that includes 40 doctors, five search-and-rescue teams, and an army rescue squad. The IDF medical teams are preparing to spend two weeks in Haiti.

Spain has pledged $4.3 million (€3 million) in aid money and has 150 tons of aid ready to be delivered.

South Africa is sending a team of search and rescue specialists to Haiti in response to the devastating earthquake on Tuesday. It is the first of several teams being sent by a local civic group. The head of South Africa's Gift of the Givers Foundation, Emtiaz Sooliman, says his group is sending up to three teams of search and rescue specialists to Haiti to help victims of the earthquake and hopefully save some lives.

"These are people who have worked with building collapses, urban search and rescue and some of them have been involved in responding to previous earthquakes so they are highly skilled," he said.

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Crossing guard killed by truck in Glasgow, Scotland

January 15, 2010

An elderly woman who was a crossing guard or a "lollipop lady" has been killed in an accident involving a truck in Glasgow, Scotland. The woman has been identified as 59-year-old Catherine Gibson, who came from the Dennistoun district of Glasgow. At around 0850 GMT on Thursday, Gibson was assisting children in crossing a road as part of her job near St. Anne's Primary School, located in the east side of the city. Gibson was suddenly struck by a truck and dragged underneath the wheels of the vehicle. The children being assisted witnessed the entire collision.

After the accident occurred, Gibson was transported to a hospital but died shortly afterwards. The truck driver, who is aged 64, was not injured in the crash. The vehicle itself was taken away from the scene of the accident at approximately 1200 GMT on the same day. A person working in a garage near where the accident occurred said: "There were children waiting to cross the road and they were all screaming and crying. They all ran back from where the accident had happened. She was found face down and it looked as though the lorry had driven over her shoulder. She was alive when she was found but died a short time later. It was horrific and the kids will probably need counselling.

"It could have been a case of the driver not being able to see her because the vehicle is quite high as he caught her on the passenger side. It's not clear whether she gave him enough time to stop or whether the driver has failed to stop. It was snowing as well so that could have been a factor."

Louise Jarvie is the head teacher of St. Anne's Primary School. "Our thoughts and condolences are with the family at this very sad time," she said in reference to the incident. "Support and counselling for pupils and staff will be available to anyone who needs it."


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South Africa reopens beaches after fatal shark attack

January 14, 2010 Beaches in Cape Town, South Africa have reopened after being closed for two days. They were closed after a man from Zimbabwe was killed by a shark on the Fish Hoek beach. The man was attacked by a great white shark while around 100 meters off shore on Tuesday.

An official for Cape Town released a statement saying that "although the beaches have been declared safe, both shark spotting and lifesaving services will continue.” He added that visitors to the beach should remain in groups and go no further than waist deep in the ocean.

Several eye witnesses viewed the attack on Tuesday. Swimmer Kyle Johnston spoke to a Cape Town newspaper, saying: "We looked at the walkway and saw people waving towels at us, then we looked further out to sea and saw what looked like blood, and a man's leg come up."

This was the second fatal shark attack on the same beach since 2004, when an elderly women died when she was attacked by a great white shark while swimming.


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Suspected US drone attack kills at least fourteen in Pakistan

January 14, 2010A drone attack, suspected to have been made by US forces, killed at least twelve people and injured a further fourteen in northwestern Pakistan earlier today, although some reports put the death toll as high as eighteen. The attack hit a militant training camp on the border between Pakistan's and  tribal region.

Pakistani officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said they believe the target was leader ; however, it was not immediately clear whether Mehsud was killed.

"We had information that he [Mehsud] was around there. We're checking on whether he was killed," said an unnamed official.

A spokesman for the Taliban, however, told Pakistan's Dawn TV that Mehsud had left a few minutes before the strike, and was still alive and safe.

It is, however, difficult to verify such claims, as the area is largely autonomous and believed to be a sanctuary for al-Qaeda and Taliban members. Suspected US missile strikes in Pakistan's northwest have killed several rebel leaders, including the previous head of the Pakistani Taliban,, in mid-2009.


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Sixteen civilians killed by bomber in southern Afghanistan

January 15, 2010 A suicide bomber blew himself up in a central Afghanistan market earlier today, killing at least sixteen civilians and a policeman, and wounding more than a dozen, according to reports. Nobody has, at least yet, claimed responsibility for the blast.

Police said the attack occurred in the town of Dihrawud, in the Uruzgan province. The area was crowded as shoppers and vendors gathered for a bazaar. Three of those killed in the blast were reportedly children.

"The terrorists today carried out a suicide attack in the bazaar of Dihrawud district of Uruzgan province as a result of which 16 civilians were killed and 13 others were wounded," said Uruzgan police chief Juma Gul Himat.

"The bomber had explosives attached to a waistcoat. He was spotted by a guard of the money market which is inside the bazaar and then he blew himself up," said General Abdul Hameed, a spokesman for NATO-led troops in Afghanistan.

The attack comes a day after the United Nations said the number of civilians killed in war-related violence in Afghanistan reached its highest level last year since US-led forces ousted the Taliban in 2001. In that report, the chief human rights officer at the UN mission in Kabul, Norah Niland, said 2,412 Afghan civilians were killed in 2009, two-thirds of them by anti-government rebels.


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UK research indicates big bums are healthy

January 14, 2010

A new study conducted by researchers at Oxford University has concluded that women with fat around their bum, hips and thighs will have a reduced risk from various ailments.

The Oxford Centre for Diabetes, Endocrinology and Metabolism's Dr. Konstantinos Manolopoulos said that "Fat around the hips and thighs is good for you but around the tummy is bad," although he cautioned that "Unfortunately, you tend not to get one without the other." He worked with two other scientists to produce the paper, which was published in the International Journal of Obesity.

Fat around the waist has a tendency to release fatty acids, which are toxic. However, that found on curvy bums, thighs and hips actually traps fatty acids, as well as being associated with a reduced risk of diabetes and heart conditions. It releases hormones that help control blood sugar levels and keep arteries in good condition by preventing blockages with an anti-inflammatory.

Belly fat releases inflammatory substances called cytokines and it is these that are trapped by the fat on curvy hips, bottoms and thighs. Cytokines also latch upon muscles and the liver, and can cause resistance to insulin, an important chemical. A lack of fat in the areas identified can also lead to metabolic chaos such as that which occurs in Cushing's syndrome.

"The idea that body fat distribution is important to health has been known for some time," explained Manolopoulos "However is it only very recently that thigh fat and a larger hip circumference have been shown to promote health, that lower body fat is protective by itself." He stated that future research might even seek ways to ensure people have a healthy layer of fatty curves and that further study may be required to better understand the health effects.


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Eleven year-old driver kills family in collision

January 15, 2010 A Honda, with eleven-year-old Jose Covarrubias behind the wheel, ran a stop sign in Porterville, California colliding with a Ford around 7:30 P.M.

The eastbound 1993 Honda was sideswiped from the driver's side by a southbound 1999 Ford, killing Jose. His sister, 6-year-old Elizabeth Covarrubias, and mother, Maria Covarrubias, were killed when they ejected, as they were not wearing seatbelts. Family friend Froylon Gonzalez was sent to the hospital with serious injuries, and the driver of the Ford, Charles Seguin, sustained minor injuries.

Felipe Gonzalez, Froylon's brother, said the family was returning from Jose's soccer team practice. He also added that he had never seen Jose drive before. Gonzales was the lone survivor of the Honda and has not yet been interviewed.

The accident occurred at a rural intersection and it did not appear to law enforcement that drugs, alcohol, or weather were a factor in the collision.

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Cocaine found at Kennedy Space Center

January 14, 2010

On Thursday, NASA officials confirmed that a small plastic bag of cocaine was found two days before in a secure space shuttle processing facility within the Kennedy Space Center located in Merritt Island, Florida.

An employee found the bag in Orbiter Processing Facility #3, where the Discovery is being prepared for a March launch to deliver supplies to the International Space Station. The man immediately notified security, and local police were soon called to the scene. From there, the bag's contents were tested, and the results came back positive for cocaine.

The center's director, Robert Cabana, assured the press that neither the Discovery nor the hangar in which it is being housed was compromised by the presence of the illegal drug. He went on to affirm that neither he nor his agency condone the use of any controlled substance by any employee while they are on the job, and that whoever is responsible will be fired and then prosecuted for the offenses.

Furthermore, Cabana stated that besides probing the criminal nature of what occurred, NASA will also conduct a full review of recent work performed on the Discovery as to make sure that there were not any other potential problems with the shuttle that investigators may have missed the first time.

Although a drug test was performed on each of the facility's over two-hundred workers before they left Wednesday, "There was nothing obvious," said the center's public relations spokesman, Allard Beutel.

He goes on to say, "Nobody was obviously under the influence when they were working, because we have supervisors there, security in there. It wasn't obvious somebody was under the influence of this substance, or any other, for that matter."

Senator Bill Nelson, a former astronaut himself, says he is confident that the guilty party will be found, brought to justice, and then sent "out the door."

Beutel concluded his statement by reaffirming NASA's "zero-tolerance" policy for controlled substances, "People know how serious this is, and how serious[sic] people take it," Beutel said. "And it's not acceptable. That's the bottom line."

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Doesn't the image illustrate a relatively small bum? How about File:Vintage nude photograph 9.jpg or File:Three polish girls.jpg instead? --SVTCobra 22:38, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Perhaps, but it has the curves required, as opposed to the flat backsides that are less healthy. Partly, I picked the image not just for the curves but also because it is simply a better butt image than anything else we had. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:40, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Found it. GChriss (talk) 05:56, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

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Perhaps we should be using the word buttocks instead of bums? The latter is more ambiguous, most people in North America take that word to mean "hobo" or a homeless person. Tempodivalse [talk]  22:59, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I would imagine the image would clarify things ;). If just reading the title, I could see the potential for confusion, but buttocks seems kind of formal. buts perhaps would be better. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:01, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm.... Something I never thought of. Perhaps a simple wikt link in the article would suffice? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:03, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * People might think it was a wikipedia link, like most of our ELs are. Plus, people who are just scanning the headlines or our feeds might be confused. I think we should use the most unambiguous phrasing possible. Tempodivalse [talk]  23:06, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * How 'bout a link to Fat Bottomed Girls? --SVTCobra 23:09, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I wanted that in the title, which was unambiguous, but ShakataGaNai stopped my rockin' world from going round :P Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:11, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I thought of homeless people first. – Juliancolton  | Talk 00:10, 15 January 2010 (UTC)


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Is the comma vital to the title? I wouldn't have used it, but the fact that two experienced users have worked on this makes me wonder if I'm being really stupid and missing something. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:15, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems ok to me. Feel free to rename though if you can come up with a headline you think is more suitable. Tempodivalse [talk]  22:51, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

 * I see what happened. I managed to read it as "aid, to help Haiti". My bad. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:54, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

OpenStreetMap

OpenStreetMap coverage of the earthquake hit cities, has progressed dramatically in the past 48 hours. All open licensed. Can wikinews make use of an image like this anywhere?

Browse the map. This is the 'live' map with improvements still being made, including pinpointing building damage and refugee camps visible using post-quake GeoEye and DigitalGlobe aerial imagery (which OpenStreetMap has been given special permission to use).

Also available from OpenStreetMap: hillshaded version, downloads of shapefiles and garmin imgs (useful for aid workers on the ground?) Other resources and OSM coordination

Get in touch with me or anyone else in the OpenStreetMap community if you have questions or ideas for working the map data. And feel free to use the images on wikinews! (open licensed!)

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What the hell is a "crossing guard"?
In the UK, I've never heard that word for a lollipop lady and this is a UK story.   Tris   08:31, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

 * According to Wiktionary - "A person who directs vehicular traffic so that pedestrians may cross the right of way."
 * It's my understanding that we need to accomodate an international audience that's why i reviewed with this title --RockerballAustralia (talk) 15:19, 15 January 2010 (UTC)


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 * ❌ as Commons have no manners and have removed it while you posted; therefore, I cannot verify that this image is an exact duplicate and not a new image in violation of WN:ARCHIVE. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:37, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

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The only good I can see coming from this is maybe just maybe the world for care a lot more for Haiti and all its problems. From political corruption to lack of standard of living.--KDP3 (talk) 23:35, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Israel is sending aid, search & rescue teams and doctors
Let's not forget Israel is sending a large contingent, the same size as Spain to Haiti.

The Greek Government has pledged sending a plane(Tuesday, 19 Jan 2010) with 25 tons of medical supplies as well as 75 rescuers and doctors but unfortunately has not received landing permission yet. source: http://news247.gr/a/4!116620

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What about Jamaica? We were one of the first to dispatch a medical and soldier team as well as food supplies to Haiti! We called upon other nations to help. —72.27.33.42 (talk) 00:33, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

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 * New low. 04:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * While the tone of the caption of the picture is... questionnable, as a man who likes women with well-rounded butts and thighs (but a nice flat tummy), I say: YES!!!

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The normal, healthy women have such bodies, because that is how Nature intended them to be. Unfortunately, our amazing capitalism (which is not good in its head), has been trying to convince us that, what is attractive and beautiful are anorexic, hungry women, showing their bone and sinew, dying of simple urinary infections.

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January 18, 2010

Mongolian President Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj has announced a moratorium on executions, and will begin to seek their abolition. On January 14, 2010, in a speech to parliament, Elbegdorj announced that he would pardon all persons sentenced to death, stating that most countries in the world had abolished the death penalty, and Mongolia should follow suit. He also suggested that the death penalty be replaced with a 30 year prison sentence.

The decision was controversial: when Elbegdorj finished his speech, representatives of the Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party refused to join in the applause, which is customary after a presidential address to parliament.

Human rights groups welcomed the move, with Amnesty International expressing hope that Mongolia will vote in favour of an upcoming United Nations resolution calling for an end to Capital punishment. It also urged other nations in the region to abolish the death penalty.

Many members of Mongolia's opposition-led parliament favour harsh punishments for criminals, and Elbegdorj must gain approval from parliament before the death penalty can be abolished. If Elbegdorj fails to be re-elected, the new president could end the moratorium, and executions could resume.


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Images are welcome to the article if they are relevent, but turning it into a butt gallery is not useful, as additional images do not add anything to the article. (Basic rule is, if it was an article on something boring, say washing machines, would we have a single image, or would we have several images. Unless the additional images added some context, we would just have a single image). Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:36, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

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Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson under fire for remarks about earthquake in Haiti

January 15, 2010

American radio host and conservative political commentator Rush Limbaugh and televangelist Pat Robertson have drawn criticism from the White House for comments made on Thursday criticizing the relief efforts for Haiti following Tuesday's earthquake there.

When asked by a caller on his radio show about the president urging Americans to contribute to the Red Cross to help those affected, Limbaugh responded, "Would you trust that the money is going to go to Haiti? Would you trust that your name is going to instead end up on a mailing list for the Obama people to start asking you for campaign donations for him and other causes?"

"Besides," Limbaugh added, "We've already donated to Haiti. It's called the U.S. income tax."

Limbaugh went on to say that the American president "runs around the world apologizing for" the United States, and that "he now turns to us as its president and asks people who have lost their jobs because of his policies to donate to WhiteHouse.gov to the people of Haiti, and we will do it. We are the most charitable and the most generous people on the face of the earth.  Each and every time a natural disaster like this happens, we step up. We are there. We have yet another crisis simply too good to waste.  This will play right into Obama's hands. He's humanitarian, compassionate. They'll use this to burnish their, shall we say, 'credibility' with the black community—in the both light-skinned and dark-skinned black community in this country. It's made-to-order for them. That's why he couldn't wait to get out there, could not wait to get out there."

Robertson's remarks on Thursday were also considered to be inflammatory when he suggested on his television show, The 700 Club that the current situation in Haiti is a direct result of a deal Haitians made with Satan in the late 1700s.

Robertson stated that the Haitian people in that time, "were under the heel of the French, uh, you know Napoleon the 3rd and whatever, and they got together and swore a pact to the Devil. They [the Haitian leaders] said, 'We will serve you [Satan] if you'll get us free from the French.' True story. And so the Devil said, 'Okay, it's a deal.’ And, uh, they kicked the French out, you know, with the Haitians revolted and got themselves free. But ever since they have been cursed by, by one thing after another, desperately poor. That island of Hispaniola is one island. It's cut down the middle. On the one side is Haiti on the other side is the Dominican Republic. The Dominican Republic is, is prosperous, healthy, full of resorts, etcetera. Haiti is in desperate poverty. Same island. They need to have and we need to pray for them a great turning to God and out of this tragedy I'm optimistic something good may come. But right now we're helping the suffering people and the suffering is unimaginable."

When asked about these two statements during his press briefing Thursday, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs replied to them both respectively, "In times of great crisis, there are always people that say really stupid things. I don't know how anybody could sit where [they] do, having enjoyed the success that [they have], and not feel some measure of sorrow for what has happened in Haiti. I think to use the power of your pulpit to try to convince those not to help their brothers and sisters is sad. My sense is that most people, though, because they understand we're part of an amazing world, won't listen and instead will seek to help those that they know, because it is through no fault of their own, have suffered an unspeakable tragedy."

Chris Roslan, spokesperson for the network that broadcasts Robertson's show defended the remarks stating, "Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God's wrath. If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson's compassion for the people of Haiti is clear. He called for prayer for them."

Rush Limbaugh and the radio network that carries his show still have yet to reply to the criticism from The White House and elsewhere.


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Haiti
If Pat Robertson is telling a "true story" why didn't he know that Napoleon Bonaparte governed France at the time of Haiti's independence (1804). Oh, when did facts get in the way of truth?

Heartless
How disgusting. People like that make me ashamed to be a human being. —Eodril (talk) 14:09, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

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Fuck you Rush
Libaugh? Humbaugh! I'd value his life, and contribution to society, at about $0.05 - the price of a single round to load into an AK-47. It is the selfish, self-centred, money-grabbing and international meddling of his heroes like Saint Ronald of Ray Gun that left Haiti so completely unable to cope with this disaster in any way shape or form.

The United States overthrew the democratically elected government of Haiti, helped install and prop up a ruthless dictator, then made all international aid conditional on small farmers being forced off their land, herded into squalid cities and exploited as the cheapest workers in the Western Hemisphere. It suits those bastard free-market fundamentalists to have a huge labour pool fighting over the sweatshop jobs in clothing manufacture and similar. How else would they manage to keep wages below US$2/day?

Goebbels deserves more respect than Rush Limbaugh or Pat Robertson. I don't believe in God, but if I'm proved wrong I hope they're in the worst part of hell for the human misery and suffering they support being implemented by right-wing United States policy over the long term. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:57, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Left-wing Rush Limbaugh above.

Rush Limbaugh and Mr. Robertson
I say let them continue to talk. It just shows what inhumane idiots they and people like them are. Thank God that the old guard such as Pat Robertson is dying out and a younger more conscious America is emerging. Soon Mr. Roberson will be with his friend the devil. I'm sure they will have much to talk about!
 * Take a stroll around your average University campus and tell me that there is a such thing as "a younger more conscious America".

What
Both Rush and Pat are Idiots. Any respect I had for them prior is now long gone. How can anyone listen to anything that these two say. If everyone stopped paying attention to these two then hopefully they would go back to the cave that they crawled out of.

Rush/Robertson Comments
Well Rush with the kind of backages he carries must be and should be EXTREMELY Careful at what he says.

Mr.Robertson is right about Haiti, however he also understands that what has happen to the people of Haiti is generational. And by him being a christian he also must understand that his MUST speak in wisdom. And words like "may" never comes from the mouth of a person who professes the Name of Christ. And compassion is a must.

Sincerely

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The US has donated hundreds of millions of dollars to Haiti, which has done little to help the country and for which there is no good accounting. See Haiti: Where Will All the Money Go? for something about this that doesn't focus on stupid talking heads like Rush. --SVTCobra 03:03, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Why do people care what he says, anyway? Please enlighten me. --SVTCobra 03:06, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

 * I can only shrug and wonder. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:06, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Shame...
It's a shame that Limbaugh recovered from that heart attack. The civilians in Haiti certainly deserved much more to live than him.

Bad News Guys?
Bad news all around-the rhetoric of hate constantly spewing from their demented minds-

What an idiot! I am a conservative but this guy takes the cake. Wish he had been vacationing there.

Rush Limbaugh and Pat Robertson
God has a place for everyone of us in this planet. It is a shame on those who use their ability to communicate to the media to use the haitian people for their own gain. santiago sandoval


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Crossing guard killed by truck in Glasgow, Scotland
Pure speculation regarding the cause of thbis accident.

Would it not be better to wait until an investigation has commenced until spouting this

"It could have been a case of the driver not being able to see her because the vehicle is quite high as he caught her on the passenger side. It's not clear whether she gave him enough time to stop or whether the driver has failed to stop. It was snowing as well so that could have been a factor." How could the driver not see, he drives this lorry daily as all lorry drivers do, regardless of what side! Gave enough time? Drivers should of been aware the lady was there! Snowing, on the photo I see, the road is black, so little snow.

We have reports on a regular basis from all involved in this job, of near misses, of drivers who ignore the request to stop, of those who simply drive round them, or drive up to them revving engines to intimidate.

We are currently trying to improve school bus transport safety in the UK, by increasing visibility of the school bus safety sign, by incorporating flashing signs within the sign, or also on the bus.

This could also be done with the crossing officers sign, give them, & we ask for the same on school transport, the proper tools for the job.

To face traffic in this day & age with a yellow coat & STOP sign is not enough, if flashing lights are good enough for mounted police, then surely for these crossing officers.

Very sadly another death through helping children, our thoughts are with the family at this time. Ron Beaty School bus safety group

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 * The member of the public was probably asked to offer his speculation on the cause of the accident, so it's not really his fault that the question was answered. "Gave enough time? Drivers should of been aware the lady was there!" - Actually, it is one thing to know someone is there, quite another to expect them to jump out in front of you. After all, she is supposed to do it safely; that means giving drivers a chance to react and stop, not throwing herself under trucks.

 * All that said, I doubt that's what happened. If you want my speculation I'd make it clear I don't have a clue, then say that the best odds are the driver was paying no attention. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:29, 15 January 2010 (UTC)


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Everybody knows there are great whites in the False Bay area. They need to stop 'chumming' for sharks in this area, and tourists need to find some other kind of activity to get their 'thrills' from, if the 'chumming' stops the sharks will stay closer to Seal's Island and not so close to the shorelines.

Recent shark attack and related press
I hope propels realise that as upsetting as this shark attack is, that being attacked by a White shark is rare. We kill millions of sharks each year, many for pointless 'sharks fin soup'. Such a fuss is made over one human death but no real fuss made over millions of sharks being wiped out in one of the cruelest types of industries I've ever known. With respect to the family involved with this tragic incident, please remember this is a protected species. It is a predator and if we go in the sea, there is always a risk from many thing, the smallest of which is sharks. It would be nice to have more balanced reporting both sides as otherwise we end up with 'misunderstandings'. Whilst protected in coastal waters the main part of the ocean holds no protection for this magnificent species. Please look up and get involved with shark preservation. Thankyou


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I'd say just start recording them and posting them to articles, then start building audio wikinews as the need progresses. Such as when you start recording a whole number of them, you'll need to start archiving them, you'll need a front page to get other conbributors, and so it goes on.

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Again...thinning of the gene pool. Useless Mexicans that I wont have to feed anymore. Wish this would happen more often.

Oi! Isnt that a LITTLE inflamatory? 164.116.47.180 (talk) 15:33, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Any family that is stupid enough to let an eleven-year-old drive a car deserves to be removed from the gene pool in the name of natural selection. What could possibly have induced a (seemingly sober) family to allow a child, who had never driven a car before in his life, to drive them home? Yes, these people are useless (at least at anything requiring a jot of common sense); yes, these people are Mexican (they come from Mexico); and, yes, they no longer need to be fed (by virtue of being dead). Therefore, nothing the OP said was untrue. A comment is not inflammatory if it is based on the truth (well, it can be, but not in a way that should cause its poster to be chastised). Den dodge  T\C 16:32, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It was, however, highly racist, and has therefore been removed. 94.193.134.98 (talk) 18:56, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

 * As uncomfortable as it makes me, I replaced it. Yes, it's racist, but for now we usually don't remove racism unless it's something like shouting 'nigger' for the hell of it (which is more trolling than anything). Remember, we once interviewed a neo-Nazi; as wrong and stupid as they may be, it would have been very wrong not to allow the skinheads to try and mount a defence. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:09, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

 * The fact that they were Mexican is totally irrelevant. Might as well have said "useless Californians"; the fact that it's both racist and inflammatory is obvious, much as you would like to dodge around that.  However, the fact that they let an 11 year old drive them around and did not think to put on their seatbelts (!!) while doing so does make them pretty stupid.  "Useless" seems to imply that everyone should be useful to you; in that respect, I'm pretty useless to the anon as well.  I guess since he/she was obviously feeding them on a regular basis (odd, since most people I know don't feed Mexicans very often...), he/she must be very concerned with their utility. 71.237.69.75 (talk) 23:06, 16 January 2010 (UTC)


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Thank you for your productive and helpful edits on Wikinews. We really appreciate what you've done. Wikinews needs more good editors like yourself; please consider getting an account! We'd be very happy to have you. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:31, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

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I undid it because when I hit the review link for WN:FlaggedRevs all I saw was somebody deleting text with no edit summary. What is it redundant to? Actually, now I know your intention, I'll go read it, see if I can't figure it out myself. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:48, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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