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Labour peer tells Blair to step down as Prime Minister

July 16, 2006 Lord Hattersley, the former deputy leader of the Labour party, has said Tony Blair should stand down as British Prime Minister in September.

He said the party would be damaged if Mr Blair remained in Downing Street after this year's Labour conference, which will be held in Manchester in two months' time.

"The Prime Minister ought not to announce he's going at party conference - he ought to go at party conference," he told GMTV's Sunday Programme. "The longer he stays on, the more damaging it is for him as well as the party in my view."

The Labour peer said Mr Blair should highlight the successes his party has achieved since gaining power in 1997. "Then he should say the time has come to pass the torch on to somebody else and thank the party for what they've done. ... If we did that I think he’d go out on a high note in the party. I think that'll ripple out through the country."

Lord Hattersley, who was the former MP for Birmingham Sparkbrook, added that Scottish chancellor Gordon Brown was the best heir to Mr Blair. "I think Gordon Brown increasingly becomes the ideal next leader of the Labour party," he said.

"I think what the Labour party needs to win the next election is a solemn, serious, if you like, son of the manse."

"Somebody with visibly and almost ostentatiously contemptuous of spin who wants simply to say it as it is," he added.

But Mr Blair, who is currently in St Petersburg for the G8 summit, said he would be Prime Minister when the gathering is held again next summer.

"I've made it clear all the way through that I'll carry on doing the job," he told BBC One's The Politics Show today.

Liberal Democrat party president Simon Hughes said: "Roy Hattersley's call for the prime minister to go this year just piles on the pressure.

"Every month that passes looks more and more like the end of the Blair era. The chosen date for going is, of course, a personal decision and principally a Labour party concern.

"But good government for Britain and our reputation abroad requires a prime minister with a future not a past, and a prime minister who commands authority in his party as well as the support of the British people."

Cash-for-honours
Lord Hattersley also said in the interview that recent cash-for-honours claims were "deeply damaging" to Labour.

The party's chief fundraiser and Middle East envoy, Lord Levy, was this week arrested and bailed by the Metropolitan Police over allegations he was nominated for a peerage after lending money to the party before the last election.

But Tony Blair has said there is nothing wrong with peerages being given to party backers.

"Nobody in the Labour party to my knowledge has sold honours or sold peerages," Mr Blair told The Politics Show.

"The fact that is sometimes excluded from the public's mind in relation to this debate is that there are places in the House of Lords that are reserved for party nominees for their party supporters."

Police are also investigating the Conservative party and the Liberal Democrats to see if they have given peerages in return for money.


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Michael Schumacher wins 2006 French Grand Prix

July 16, 2006

Ferrari driver Michael Schumacher won the FIA Formula-1 French Grand Prix on the Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours.

With the help of a different pit-stop strategy Renault driver Fernando Alonso took second ahead of the other Ferrari of Felipe Massa. Massa had lead Alonso during the initial part of the race.

Toyota did not live up to their promise in the qualifying session on Saturday with only one car finished, that of Ralf Schumacher. McLaren-Mercedes driver Kimi Raikkonen finished fifth. Pedro de la Rosa finished seventh.

This was de la Rosa's first race this season. He had replaced Juan-Pablo Montoya in the McLaren hot seat, who left the team to start a career in NASCAR in the US.

This victory is the 150-th podium finish for Michael Schumacher, and cut down Alonso's lead in the championship race to 17 points. It was his eighth French Grand Prix victory - the first driver to win a Grand Prix eight times, which surpassed his own record of seven.

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Original reporting notes
TV channel - Ren TV, Russia

Date - 16.07.2006

Time - 15:00-15:45 MSK - «Formula 1»: «Countdown»

Time - 15:45-17:45 MSK - «Formula 1»: «Race: Live from France»

Time - 17:45-18:30 MSK - «Formula 1»: «Hot review. Best moments of GP»

Commentators - Alexey Popov (live event), Andrey Leontiev & Maria Rumyantseva (TV-show before and after the race)

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Near-record heat in Minnesota brings wildfire to the Boundary Waters

July 16, 2006

A heat wave in the upper Midwest has people trying to stay cool, while the National Guard is activated by Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty to fight a new wildfire in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness.

Temperatures cracked 100 degrees Fahrenheit (38 Celsius) in St. Paul, Minnesota, and reached a record-breaking 96 degrees Fahrenheit (35.5 Celsius) in Duluth, Minnesota.

Smoke was spotted Friday afternoon in the wilderness area about one mile southwest of Seagull Lake. This area of the 1 million acre wilderness was hit by a severe windstorm in 1999, which killed millions of trees, increasing concern about the future threat of wildfires.

Firefighters are not yet on the ground, as the fire is located in a remote area inaccessible by trails or lakes. Helicopters have been called in to begin suppression efforts immediately.

Jean Bergerson, spokesperson for the Minnesota Inter-agency Fire Center, described the blaze as "well over 1,000" acres in size. The cause of the fire is not yet known.

UPDATE: June 17, 2006

The flames continue to rage in Northern Minnesota as the fire expands by the hour, now engulfing more than 6,000 acres of the Boundary Waters Canoe Area, as reported by the Minneapolis Star Tribune today.

The purported cause of the fire is a lightning strike.

There are now over 60 firefighters stationed on the ground near the fire, though it is still considered too dangerous to combat the blaze directly.

This is the largest fire to take place in Minnesota in years, and has now spread to within 3 miles of the Gunflint Trail, though the trail may be protected by controlled burn zones put in place in recent years by the US Forest Service.

Govenor Tim Pawlenty plans a fly-over of the afflicted area.


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UK soldier killed near Basra

July 16, 2006

The Ministry of Defence has named the British soldier who died after a mission in the northern area of Basra in Iraq.

27 year-old Corporal John Johnston Cosby, of the 1st Battalion Devonshire and Dorset Light Infantry, was one of two servicemen who sustained gunshot wounds after coming under fire by suspected terrorists in the Garmat Ali tribal area on Saturday.

"It is with great regret that we can confirm one of the soldiers has subsequently died of these injuries," said a statement issued by the Ministry of Defence.

"Our thoughts and sympathies are with the family at this difficult time. The other soldier's injuries are not life-threatening."

Defence Secretary Des Browne said the soldier’s death was "terribly sad".

"I would like to offer my deepest condolences to their family and friends," he said. "I wish the soldier who was injured a speedy recovery and pay tribute to the bravery of both troops."

Two men suspected of being involved with serious crime and terrorism were detained as a result of the operation.

According to Major Charlie Burbridge, a British forces spokesman, the intelligence-led operation's objective had been achieved. "We have been pleased with the outcome of the operation - it went according to plan. But we do mourn the loss of one of our soldiers."

So far, 114 British troops have died in Iraq.

Elsewhere in the country today, at least 19 Iraqi civilians were killed and 25 injured in a suicide bomb attack in a crowded cafe. The attack took place in the town of Tuz Khurmatu, which is 50 miles from Kirkuk.

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Arab League, Group of Eight leaders discuss crisis in the Levant

July 16, 2006

The international nature of the crisis between Israel, Lebanon and Hezbollah was discussed in an emergency summit of the Arab League in Cairo, Egypt, Saturday, and by Group of Eight leaders in St Petersburg, Russia, Sunday.

The Arab League failed to reach an agreement on the issue while the Group of Eight released a joint statement. The Arab League released three separate statements on Lebanon.

The meetings came after Hezbollah attacked Israel on July 12, killing six soldiers and kidnapping two. Israel retaliated by attacking Lebanon, which lead to over 100 civilian deaths. Hezbollah has fired 700 missiles across the border, causing civilian casualties in Israeli towns, including Haifa.

Arab League
On Saturday, the Arab League convened a one-day meeting on the crisis in the Levant in Cairo, together with member countries' foreign ministers, on the invitation of Arab League Secretary-General Amr Moussa.

The Council of Arab Foreign Ministers failed to reach an agreement on a joint statement about the conflict and instead released separate statements.

"We're facing the prospect of a total security collapse in the region," said the Secretary-General of the Arab League. Amr Moussa also said the peace process in the region was "dead."

"The peace process in the Middle East was killed. All mechanisms, including the Middle East Quartet (Russia, US, UN and EU) have canceled the peace process.”

During the discussions the Arab League promised Lebanon “unconditional support.”

There was, however, disagreement over Hezbollah. Saudi Foreign Minister al-Faisal accused Hezbollah of “inappropriate and irresponsible” behaviour and was supported in his view by delegates from Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Iraq, Palestine, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain.

The Syrian delegate Velid Muallim disagreed.

Group of Eight
Group of Eight leaders met in St Petersburg on Sunday and worked out a joint statement on the crisis in the Levant.

While they asked Israel to stop attacking Lebanon and "an early withdrawal" from Gaza they demanded Hezbollah release the taken Israeli soldiers and stop their attacks on Israel. "The extremists must immediately halt their attacks," said the leaders in the jointly-released statement but also Israel should release the recently arrested Palestinian ministers and parliamentarians.

The Group of Eight leaders also accepted Israel's right to defend against attacks - as long as they did so proportionally.

The joint statement was summarised with the four following points

 * Israeli soldiers in Gaza and Lebanon should be returned, unharmed;
 * The attacks into Israeli territory should stop;
 * Israeli military operations must end and Israeli forces must make "an early withdrawal" from Gaza;
 * The arrested Palestinian ministers and parliamentarians must be released.

Israel welcomed the statement.

"Israel concurs with the position of the international community, which places responsibility for the conflict on extremist elements," said Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni.


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Wikinews:Briefs/July 16, 2006

The time is 19:00 (UTC) on July 16th, 2006, and this is Audio Wikinews News Briefs.

Arab League, Group of Eight leaders discuss crisis in the Levant
Lebanon

The international nature of the crisis between Israel, Lebanon and Hezbollah was discussed in an emergency summit of the Arab League in Cairo, Egypt, Saturday, and by Group of Eight leaders in St Petersburg, Russia, Sunday.

UK soldier killed near Basra
Iraq

The Ministry of Defence has confirmed that a British soldier has died after a mission in the northern area of Basra in Iraq.

Labour peer tells Blair to step down as Prime Minister
United Kingdom

Lord Hattersley, the former deputy leader of the Labour party, has said Tony Blair should stand down as British Prime Minister in September.

North Carolina to see minimum wage increase
United States

North Carolina Governor Mike Easley signed into law a new minimum wage for the U.S. state Thursday. The increase of $1 will raise the rate to $6.15. Easley said that the new law will make it easier for North Carolinians to deal with the rising cost of living. The new law will become effective on January 1 next year. This is the first raise to the North Carolina minimum wage in nearly nine years.

Near-record heat in Minnesota brings wildfire to the Boundary Waters
A heat wave in the upper Midwest has people trying to stay cool, while the National Guard is activated by Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty to fight a new wildfire in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness.

Michael Schumacher wins 2006 French Grand Prix
sports – Formula 1

Ferrari driver Michael Schumacher won the FIA Formula-1 French Grand Prix on the Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours. Renault driver Fernando Alonso overreached his teammate Felipe Massa due to a different pit-stop strategy (2 instead of 3 for Ferrari's) and finished second. Massa was only third.

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Seven Canadians killed by Israeli air strike

July 16, 2006

Seven Canadians were killed, and six others were in critical condition, after an Israeli raid in Lebanon on Sunday, Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay announced. The deaths were believed to be the first recent casualties in Lebanon from any G8 country.

Associated Press reports anonymous Lebanese officials saying the family of Canadians were killed at their home in the town of Aitaroun. Many Lebanese citizens have emigrated to Canada and often return to spend their summers in the south of Lebanon.

Sixteen thousand Canadians have registered with the embassy in Beirut, but MacKay said the number of those present could be as high as 40,000. "We're calling for restraint in all sectors right now and hope to be able to have those ships in place and citizens moving out of Lebanon as quickly as possible." MacKay said.

Parliament Hill demonstrators in Ottawa on Sunday protested the Harper government's position regarding the ongoing strikes. One placard declared, "Killing children is not a 'measured response'," referring to the G8 statement released earlier.

During a protest in Montréal on Sunday, one woman said she had just been informed that two of her family members were killed in the Israeli air strike. The unnamed woman screamed "My father, my uncle — they're dead. What's happening?" She said her family members were in the Middle East for a summer vacation.

The deaths occurred on the fifth day of Israel's military attacks in Lebanon, instigated by the capture of 2 Israeli soldiers and killing of 8 others by the Shiite Hezbollah in a cross-border attack. The fighting has caused at least 148 fatalities in Lebanon and 23 in Israel.


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Harvard lawyer who advises IDF asked about "rules of engagement" in 2004

July 18, 2006

Michael Byers, who holds the Canada Research Chair in Global Politics and International Law at the University of British Columbia, revealed in Sunday's Toronto Star that while he was in Tel Aviv in 2004, he met with a lawyer who advises the Israel Defence Force about rules of engagement. Scenarios which were unfolding were discussed.

The Toronto Star reported a conversation between Byers and an IDF colonel / lawyer during a luncheon. According to Byers, the colonel felt that attacks on southern Lebanon and civilian targets as well as Lebanese infrastructure would be justified under specific interpretations and in certain circumstances. She asked Byers for his opinion on these matters.

The lawyer Byers met with is a colonel with a Harvard doctorate. He met with her by an invitation that came while he was a visiting professor at the University of Tel Aviv. After just a few minutes, the Harvard graduated colonel got to the point of their meeting:

"There have been a number of missile attacks along our northern border," she said. "We're going to respond with air strikes against some Hezbollah installations in southern Lebanon next week. What do you think?"

Byers said he was taken aback as governments rarely consult foreign academics about their military plans. Though it was not clear whether the colonel was engaged in private conversation or asking for the professor's services on behalf of the military.

Byers responded; "Well, for starters, any act of self-defence has to be necessary and proportionate."

Byers advised the colonel, "Also, you must never target civilians or facilities such as water-filtration or electrical plants relied upon by civilians."

"Ah, here we disagree!" the colonel exclaimed. "Collateral damage is allowed in situations of military necessity. And dual-use facilities are legitimate targets."

"What constitutes military necessity depends on the relative capabilities of the opposing forces," Byers responded, "And the dual-use argument is a slippery slope."

"Perhaps." the Israeli colonel said.

"There's a second reason you should do everything possible to protect civilians," Byers advised. "Israel has to work particularly hard to maintain the moral high ground. Your reputation has suffered because of your treatment of the Palestinians."

"We're completely justified in our treatment of the Palestinians," the colonel said.

"We can disagree on that," Byers said, "but do me a favour, as someone who wants to sympathize with Israel. If you do launch air strikes, please limit yourself to Hezbollah facilities. Leave civilians — and the Lebanese government — alone."

Two years ago, Byers' IDF advisor suggested considering southern Lebanon a failed state was justification for incursions and air strikes. In contrast, speaking about the current crisis, Israel's Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said the recent cross-border attack by Hezbollah was an "act of war" committed by the government of Lebanon and that, "The events this morning are not terror attacks but actions of a sovereign state that attacked Israel for no reason. The Lebanese government, of which Hezbollah is a member, is trying to destabilize regional stability. Lebanon is responsible and it will bear responsibility."

Israel's defense ministry confirmed it held Lebanon "directly responsible" for their fate and safe return of the two soldiers captured by Hezbollah. The Israeli Defense Ministry issued a statement which said; "The Lebanese government is responsible for the fate of the Israeli soldiers, and must take immediate action to locate them without harming them and return them to Israel."


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Talk:Seven Canadians killed by Israeli air strike

Wait with the delation until the other article is ready. I see that the title is same but its not same story. international 23:38, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Question:

 * During a protest in Montreal on Sunday, one woman said she had just been informed that two of her family members were killed in the Israeli airstrike. The unnamed woman screamed “My father, my uncle — they’re dead. What’s happening?” She said her family members were in the Middle East for a summer vacation.

I'm concerned that this article not be biased, so I am wondering in what way this paragraph supports the report? -  Amgine | talk en.WN 23:49, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Its reportings from Canada but if you think it bais the article, remove it. international 23:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Publish ?
Its look good. international 00:08, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Seven, not eight --Jambalaya 00:13, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I read 8, can you show a source? international 00:19, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I did, click the blue box thingy :-) "Canada said seven of its nationals had been killed in an Israeli strike in Lebanon, not eight as it previously thought." --Jambalaya 00:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * "Foreign Minister Peter MacKay said earlier that eight Canadians had been killed in the incident. The foreign ministry spokeswoman said the toll was amended after extensive work by diplomats in Lebanon and Canada." --Jambalaya 00:22, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * sorry, little tierd I think. then we change the numbers. international 00:24, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Added source to article. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 00:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


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Talk:California wildfires continue blazing

 * Wow, wikinews, such anti-american enthusiams in your "facts", eg, something are better not in the new, thought you were getting paid for such