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I've not seen all the discussion on this, but, from what I have, the following points are those I'd raise...

 * 1) Related news is for directly related Wikinews stories, not a generic list from one of the top-level stories; as current infoboxes are. That is, related news is where we source from our own earlier content.
 * 2) This look great on a big monitor. Thus it excludes netbooks, mobiles, users of older machines.
 * 3) Dates. UTC? Absolutely! It clarifies thing where sources use their timezone-specific date; thing Sydney Morning Herald.
 * 4) Date granularity. No finer than a 15 minute point to match with push via twitter &c. A 'last updated' might be nice, but can it avoid weirdness with the archiving a few days later?
 * 5) How simple will this be for a new contributor who is non-technical to create a publish-ready article?
 * 6) How will this cope with the frequent really short articles that just meet minimum publishable guidelines.
 * 7) Sub-headings. Unless you're talking a 2-3k-word article, they're redundant.
 * 8) Bylines? Unwiki. What we have just now are hidden cats for people to keep track of their work. That should suffice, and was mostly done for OR and competition usage.

Under no circumstances do I think this should be retroactively applied; but, might be worth trying on a random selection of articles to see the end result.

I'd looked at 'purloining enWP's article cteation tool. That might be a better pririty to tackle. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk 18:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * "This look great on a big monitor. Thus it excludes netbooks, mobiles, users of older machines." I just tried this on my laptop with Firefox at the smallest width possible without horizontal scrolling, and it degraded gracefully—besides, anybody with a screen that small (about 300px wide, I think) has to expect the Internet to break, and I was surprised that all the functionality of this layout still worked. I also tried it on my BlackBerry, and it was no worse than the current Wikinews article layout, and better than most web news sources (with the exception of the BBC, with their dedicated mobile version, something we really need). Δεν δοδγε  τ\c 11:51, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Fixed width boxes (I don't know if fetchcomm's current proposal has any) are quite fragile with narrow windows. I use narrow windows a lot on my wide laptop, and plain vanilla mediawiki vector skin actually works great.  No, I don't expect the web to break on simple devices: I expect my favourite websites to put in some effort to degrade gracefully.  Also I have friends with partial sight - even a high resolution screen is only a few dozen characters wide for them. --InfantGorilla (talk) 12:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * There are very few devices on which this will break. Having tried in a variety of screen sizes and resolutions on a variety of devices, I found none on which it broke—it looks better on a large screen than a small one, but only because of text wrapping, which clearly isn't a very big issue. I get horizontal scrolling on my BlackBerry in normal view when I zoom in to a readable size, as I do an pretty much every website in existence, but I usually use column view for extended reading anyway, and it looks great in that (much, much, better than the Vector skin). I really can't find any way to make this cause problems. Δεν δοδγε  τ\c 17:08, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

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Please use them. --theMONO 00:11, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I should point out that they are entirely optional; you don't have to use them if you wish. — μ 00:32, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll probably make them brief to reduce edit conflicts. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 00:37, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * They're really helpful for edits like this, where the diff shows nothing. --theMONO 00:51, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Re the first edit summary
Attribute? Did this come from Wikipedia? If so, it's copyvio; the CC-BY-SA 3.0 is not backwards compatible with the CC-BY-2.5 (you can copy stuff from here to enwiki legally, but not from enwiki to here). Also, it's preferred if attribution is, like, immediate ... so people like me know where the content came from.  — fetch · comms  04:52, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It's all from the last Wikinews article, most of which I intend to rewrite. Do you know where the guidelines for Wikinews attribution are? Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 05:04, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that's odd—why is the article using ref tags? Anyway, I don't know of any guideline for attribution, I just follow the license, which says you have to attribute the author(s) (for other WN content after September 25, 2005, that is). WN:C might cover what you're looking for.  — fetch · comms  05:10, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I copy pasted some content with the full intention of rewriting to avoid the mundane task of typing it all out. Obviously some fragments are still not fully original to Wikinews. That I intend to fix. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 05:21, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

wikinews: A record of what was known at the time
I have reverted your rename of the Japanese quake story, per policy.

Wikinews articles serve as a record of what was known at the time, not as a constantly revised piece.

The article in question is now two days old; substantial changes, particularly a rename, should not be done. With the quake being upgraded, this is new information which came to light after publication; it should go in a new article. The existing article can then be cited under Related news and drawn from as a source. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:14, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * My opinion probably carries no weight here but articles should probably be allowed to refresh if the event is 2-3 days old. Articles can take days to review whereas a simple update is instantly available. Wikinews just isn't one of those news organizations that can afford to constantly reprint material. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 12:10, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Your opinion is contrary to policy. The policy exists for a good reason, and once an article is reviewed and published it is pushed to Google News - they spider and cache it. You should, per policy, never add information dated later than the publication date of an article. Insead, a new article should be created. In this instance, it would be relatively simple to have created Japanese quake upgraded to 9.0 magnitude. 80% of the content could have been drawn from the other articles written on site so-far, thus making reviewing simple. Instead, you made a link on the main page point to a redirect page; and, had your change been sighted, would have had two entries for the same story, under conflicting headlines, pushed to Google News.
 * Please bear in mind this is not Wikipedia. Articles being a record of what was known at the time is a very important part of the project mission. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:32, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Template:breaking news shouldn't really exist then or should be modified. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 20:24, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The breaking template should be removed immediately 24 hours after publication; in fact that ought to be made to happen automatically. --Pi zero (talk) 00:38, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Marcus Qwertyus! Just about the sentence "..Apple additionally introduced a magnetic 'Smart Cover' accessory that snaps to the front screen.." in the article "iPad 2 goes on sale in United States". What do you mean with the verb "snaps" in this context? Thanks a lot in advance Marcus Qwertys!82.53.17.44 (talk) 08:26, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It quite literally 'snaps' into place. Here is a short clip. I question whether the magnets will be strong enough though. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 08:51, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

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Welcome
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Suicide bomber kills five Afghan children

August 3, 2010

Five children were killed by a suicide car bomb in the Kandahar province in southern Afghanistan on Monday.

Officials say the suicide bomber was trying to attack the governor of the, Ahmadullah Nazak. Nazak was unharmed.

"I dropped down. Then I heard a second explosion. It hit our car, but it didn't injure me," Nazak later recalled.

There have not been any claims of responsibility for this bombing. Assassinations and attempts have become more common this year in Kandahar, and between January and April, at least 27 government officials or foreign contractors have been killed.

In other areas of Afghanistan there have been similar incidents. A blast in Nangarhar province hit the car of a senior adviser to President Hamid Karzai. Six people, including Wahidullah Sabawoon, the adviser, were injured in the blast. Sabawoon's injuries were "not critical", according to spokesperson Ahmad Zia Abdulzai.


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Obama approval ratings hit new lows

🇺🇸 August 4, 2010

According to new polls, US President Barack Obama's approval ratings have dropped across the board. According to a new USA Today/ poll, Americans are losing faith in the president's plan in Afghanistan and Iraq, where wars have been going on for years and casualties have risen. 43% of those polled say that it was a mistake for Obama's predecessor George W. Bush to go to war after terrorists planes into the  buildings in New York on September 11, 2001. Barely a third of respondents favoured Obama's strategy in the two Middle East wars. In another Gallup poll, just 36% of poll respondents supported the way Obama was handling Afghanistan, a sharp decline from 48% in February.

The drop in support for the ongoing wars (though the one in Iraq is slated to end soon) has been hastened by rising casualties and the Wikileaks leak of over 90,000 confidential military documents that paint a grim picture of the war in Afghanistan. About 76,000 of these have been released to the public. However, two-thirds of the people polled in the USA Today/Gallup Poll said it was wrong for the whistle-blower website to publish the documents, which have often been compared to the. Also, 57% of respondents said they want a timetable for removing American troops, and two-thirds of those 57% said they want a gradual withdrawl.

Obama's personal approval rating also hit a new low in the poll. Just 41% of poll respondents approved of Obama's handling of his job, while 53% disapproved. The above poll was conducted Tuesday through Sunday, and a Gallup poll on Monday had him at 45% approval. A poll has Obama's July approval rating at 46%, while 54% disapprove.

Also, according to another poll, Obama's quarterly job approval average has hit an administration low. The quarterly rating, which is compiled of Gallup polls averaged out each quarter, has sunk every quarter Obama has been in office, but at different rates. In his sixth quarter of office, Obama averaged 47.3% approval, which varied from 52% in a poll conducted in mid-May to just 44% in another one conducted in mid-July. The biggest quarterly drop that Obama had was from Q2 to Q3 of his presidency, when health-care reform ran into trouble. Obama's approval rating declined from 62% to 52.9% during that period. Since then, the approval slide has plateaued, with declines of 2% of average from Q4-Q6.

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 * Not when it's preceded by "According to a new USA Today/Gallup poll..." Benny the mascot (talk) 21:47, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, review it. Diego Grez return fire 22:00, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

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It seems to me that USA Today has updated their article. It looks slightly different than before, and it says it was updated around nine hours ago. Nine hours ago, I was sleeping, and I made the article well over nine hours ago. However, I'll make the changes. --Shankarnikhil88 (talk) 14:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

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edit protected Please add this article to Category:USA Today and update the wikilink to become local. Thank you. Green Giant (talk) 16:44, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 01:45, 5 October 2015 (UTC)


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Pressure mounts against Florida church plans to burn Qur'an

August 7, 2010

A Gainesville, Florida church named the has drawn international attention to itself with its planned book burning of the. The church urges people to send them copies of the book for burning at a bonfire event to be held on church property this coming September 11. The date marks the ninth anniversary of the 2001 September 11 attacks on the United States. The church's motive is an act "in remembrance of the fallen victims of 9/11 and to stand against the evil of Islam," according to its page wall on Facebook. The church is receiving condemnation as the book of Qur'an, often spelled Koran in Western usage, is the central religious text of Islam.

A group of religious leaders in Indonesia, represented by Catholic,, Hindu, Muslim, and persuasions, publicly condemned the church leaders, Pastors  and Sylvia Jones. Describing the plan as an " action," they seek to meet with the United States ambassador in hopes of putting an end to an action that "puts other religions in contempt" of the event.

A local news outlet in Gainesville,, published an August 3 letter to the editor written by New York resident Kirsten Tedesco. The author, who identifies as Christian, wrote of Dove World church, "Your message of hate and bigotry is another twisting of [a Christian] faith based on love and compassion for all people."

Two days later, the Alligator news staff published an editorial pointing out that city mayor "hasn't wasted any time coming out in protest of [the church's] plans." Noting the press coverage this has already generated, the editorial urged that the event be ignored. Describing the church group as people who have gone beyond being a "fringe" element, the editorial closed by suggesting, "… but we do have high hopes that a lack of attention will make them move to a place that feeds the fire – hopefully somewhere far away from Gainesville."

In a comment to the editorial, made by a reader going by the screen name Abaddon, the user's post wryly observes, "I suppose I get no points for pointing out the irony in publishing an article in a newspaper about how something 'deserves no attention', but there it is anyway."

The church, which is non-denominational, is promoting the event on its official website and other online media. A church pastor, Wayne Sapp, has posted two videos on YouTube titled, International Burn a Koran Day. The first was posted two weeks ago. Part 2 of the video came a week later. The first video has been labeled by the YouTube community as, "... being potentially offensive or inappropriate." In the Part 2 video, Sapp says the church has received "several hundred emails" and "some comments [in the YouTube community]" to which the second video is in response. In doing so, Sapp ridicules all but one of the persons he responds to by the deliberate and incorrect pronunciation of the screen names of those to whom the rebuttal is directed.

On Facebook, so far the church has at current count nearly 3,600 People [who] Like This. On that forum, the church invites other religious groups to join in standing "against the evil of Islam. Islam is of the devil!"

"Islam is of the devil" is the title of a book written by senior pastor of the church Terry Jones. "Islam and Sharia law was responsible for 9/11, we will burn Qur'ans because we think it's time for Christians, for churches, for politicians to stand up and say no; Islam and Sharia law is not welcome in the U.S." he said. The book title is being marketed as a slogan that appears on hats, shirts, and coffee mugs that can be purchased at a dot.com website with an address bearing the book's title.

The in the United States has already issued a statement urging the church to cancel the event as this would offend and hurt the international Muslim community.


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Canadian singer Justin Bieber to publish memoir

August 2, 2010

Canadian pop and R&B singer Justin Bieber has announced he will publish a memoir. Titled Justin Bieber: First Step 2 Forever: My Story, the hardcover book features several photos and will cover the sixteen-year-old's "journey to superstardom".

In a statement issued through HarperCollins, the memoir's publisher, Bieber said, "My fans have played such a large part in all of this and they help me live my dreams every day. I'm excited to share just a little bit more of my world with them through this book. Between the behind-the-scenes pictures and the story, I think this is going to be something they can all enjoy. This is just another way for me to say thank you to my fans."

The book is scheduled to be sold for 21.99 starting on October 22. Along with a planned and a biographical comic book titled Fame: Justin Bieber, the memoir is to form Bieber's three-part biography.


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 * Poor tempo, I miss him writing lots of articles at once :P Diego Grez return fire 22:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


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Waters on trial for House ethics charges

August 3, 2010

A United States House of Representatives ethics panel has charged Representative (-California) with violating unspecified ethics rules, making her the second Democrat in a week to be charged with ethical violations.

Since 2008, the Office of Congressional Ethics has investigated Waters for requesting a meeting with former Secretary of the Treasury. Although the meeting was supposed to be about minority-owned banks, the actual conversation focused on one bank, OneUnited. Water's husband,, had been a stock-holder and board member in the bank at the time.

OneUnited later received 12 million in bailout funds, and an unnamed member of Congress said that Waters had been unsure how to deal with OneUnited, which had been near collapse, "because Sidney's been on the board."

A statement from the panel does not disclose when it will state the charges or say how many there are.

Waters released a statement stating "I have not violated any House rules. Therefore, I simply will not be forced to admit to something I did not do and instead have chosen to respond to charges made by the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct in a public hearing."

She also vowed to take the case to a public trial, and also said "The record will clearly show that in advocating on behalf of minority banks neither my office nor I benefited in any way, engaged in improper action or influenced anyone."

Waters has represented her district in Los Angeles, California for 20 years.

This incident comes just five days after another House Democrat, of New York was charged with thirteen ethics violations. Rangel's charges range from tax evasion to donations he solicited for an education center bearing his name.


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Why would someone care about what a 16 years old guy who sings like a trumpet writes as his "memories". He hasn't lived much yet, so what has he been writing about, how to be an ass****? Lol, but I can't believe this was even published as news.


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No, it's news with cool headlines like this that gets re-tweeted across the multiverse and gets lots of hits on Wikinews--getting new people visiting and laughing the whole way!


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Like my octopus article.

Over 300 hits the first hours, IIRC.


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What could Bieber possibly say about his life of 16 years???


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"I was born as a beautiful BABY in Bieberland, where everyone has BABIES. I am still as beautiful as a BABY rear." Obvious.


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When I was looking up sources for this article, I saw someone say that there's a "Holy Bieble" that contains everything about Bieber. That's just sad...


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This article had 243 hits the last hour... :D


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Review of revision 1070556 [Failed]

 * Just to comment, VOA changed the entire focus of the article. The contents of Al Jazeera and VOA were similar. I'll find the google cached version if I can. — Mike moral  ♪♫  03:58, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I found a site where the contents were copied. I'd rather leave the VOA link though. — Mike moral  ♪♫  04:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)


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Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Aryas. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Aryas~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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Emergency spacewalks planned to fix International Space Station

August 3, 2010

NASA is scrambling to solidify plans to fix the broken down cooling systems on the International Space Station during two, currently planned for Friday and Monday. The systems broke down late Saturday July 31, triggering alarms that woke the six astronauts (three Russian and three American) currently onboard the station. NASA's flight controller said the astronauts are not in any danger, but that science experiments are on hold until the problem can be fixed.

The first spacewalk is set to begin Friday at 6:55 a.m., NASA officials said. The two planned spacewalks will be conducted by astronauts and. They will replace an pump module, which shut down Saturday. The pump's failure prompted the astronauts to shut down several other systems as well. The spare pump had been delivered to the station in July 2006, during.

Normally, major repair spacewalks take weeks of preparation. An unrelated spacewalk had already been planned for this Thursday, which would have been conducted by Wheelock and Dyson, so the space suits and equipment are ready to go. NASA decided late Monday evening that the spacewalk would be postponed to Friday to allow for more preparation.

In October 2010 the space station is expected to break the record for the longest continuously inhabited space station, a record currently held by .


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wow!cheating all Afghan people and thier soldiers,it is all politics,no one is fighting for freedom of afghan people it is all about oil and taking control of region, please stop cheating do not deface Islam,Islam is peace and brotherhood.


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It appears that this aircraft, registration N709RR, was owned by an Alaskan air cargo company, whose owner, the plane's pilot, died in the crash. This is tragic in itself.

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Here is the plane, "Large Marge", in 2002 at Reno NV, before it retired from the US Air Force (photo by Chuck Ross)
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FBI asks Wikimedia Foundation to remove seal from websites, Wikimedia declines

August 3, 2010

The United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has asked the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF), host of Wikinews and its sister projects, to take down its image of the FBI seal from its websites. However, the WMF declined, saying that FBI lawyers had misinterpreted the relevant federal law.

In a letter dated July 22, David C. Larson, Deputy General Counsel of the FBI demanded that the WMF remove the seal from its websites within fourteen days, claiming that "it facilitates both deliberate and unwitting violations of these restrictions by Wikipedia users."

Larson cited 18 U.S.C. 701, which states: "Whoever manufactures, sells, or possesses any badge, identification card, or other insignia, of the design prescribed by the head of any department or agency of the United States for use by any officer or employee thereof, or any colorable imitation thereof, or photographs, prints, or in any other manner makes or executes any engraving, photograph, print, or impression in the likeness of any such badge, identification card, or other insignia, or any colorable imitation thereof, except as authorized under regulations made pursuant to law, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both."

Larson went on to say that use of the FBI seal may be authorized only by the director of the FBI; the FBI director has not given such permission to WMF.

The WMF, represented by General Counsel Mike Godwin, responded, saying in a letter dated July 30, that Larson's interpretation "is both idiosyncratic (made especially so by your strategic redaction of important language) and, more importantly, incorrect."

Godwin said that "while we appreciate your desire to revise the statute to reflect your expansive vision of it, the fact is that we must work with the actual language of the statute, not the aspirational version" Larson provided. According to the relevant case law, it "was intended to protect the public against the use of a recognizable assertion of authority with intent to deceive."

Godwin asserted that the use of the FBI seal by the WMF and its projects do not fall under the purview of that law.

The websites of the Wikimedia Foundation are filled with user-generated text, pictures, and other materials, uploaded and curated by independent, often anonymous, volunteers, who change the websites minute by minute. The most well-known sites are the Wikipedias, encyclopedias with over 13 million articles in hundreds of languages. However, the foundation also hosts an image and media library, dictionaries, the Wikinews news websites, book websites and many other educational collaborations.

Cindy Cohn, legal director for the Electronic Frontier Foundation (where Godwin was once staff counsel), said that the WMF's constitutional right to free expression allows it to use the FBI seal. "I have to believe the FBI has better things to do than this," she said. The reason for the FBI's request is unknown, as the FBI seal is published on many other websites, including Encyclopedia Britannica.


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Does he really speak like that? That "statement" is so obviously written by a PR drone.


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Independent comment
Should we mention that Godwin was once counsel at the EFF? It seems relevant to the EFF quotation. --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:05, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Really? I didn't know that... as long as you provide a source, I suppose it's ok. Benny the mascot (talk) 15:05, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Yes_check.svg|link=|alt=|16px]] Done --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikileaks?

 * What do you want to bet that the reason the FBI wants the seal removed is because they're pissed at Wikileaks, and they're so ignorant of the details of the online world that they think that the WMF is affiliated with Wikileaks. I'd bet a fair amount of money that that's the case. Is there anything in any of the sources you've looked at to indicate that? Gopher65talk 15:09, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No...I didn't find any sources that indicate that. Benny the mascot (talk) 15:16, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikimedia template
What's wrong with WikimediaMention? Benny the mascot (talk) 17:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

 * The grammar was wrong in this case. It uses or, when in this case it is and, or just nothing at all after the word Foundation.  Nothing wrong in general. --InfantGorilla (talk) 17:47, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, ok. Thanks for clarifying. Benny the mascot (talk) 17:49, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

the [sic] in the quote
in "..these restrictions by Wikipedia [sic] users" - why is there a [sic] there? Unless i'm missing something, nothing is misspelled. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:48, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The FBI should have said Wikimedia, not Wikipedia. Benny the mascot (talk) 17:50, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Arguably before we wrote this story, it was only used on wikipedia - (Of course that doesn't count non-wikimedia people who use commons for images, but they probably don't use the image either). They probably weren't that concerned with wikimedia non-wikipedia use. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:00, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I see your point. sic removed. Benny the mascot (talk) 18:12, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with Bawolff, there is no reason to believe that Larson didn't mean what he wrote "Wikipedia". Thanks for fixing it. --InfantGorilla (talk) 05:31, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

inaccurate
Britannica does not display the logo. The FBI also suggests in its complaint that the high resolution of the image (on the Commons) is of concern, which would in turn explain why the FBI has an issue with Wikimedia and not Britannica (even before Britannica took down the logo.Bdell555 (talk) 02:34, 5 August 2010 (UTC)


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Methinks the Diego doth protest too much. We all know you have Bieber fever ;-)


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I am glad to see Mr Godwin dig in with his strategy of defending the Foundation's right to host all kinds of legitimate content uploaded by web users. His attitude and his legal acumen are good for Wikinews, and good for society (in my own opinion.)


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I think FBI asks Wikimedia Foundation to remove seal from websites, Wikimedia declines was an excellent collaboration. Thanks for your help! Benny the mascot (talk) 16:53, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Hey! thanks for accepting my impertinent suggestions with good grace. I wanted to review it to, but Cirt beat me to it.  I am looking for independent comments now (only via Google: I guess if I was serious I could e-mail a lawyer or two.) --InfantGorilla (talk) 17:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I forgot to say: you did all the hard work, Benny. I only added a bit of disruption, a couple of links, and a photo that someone else took.  --InfantGorilla (talk) 17:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Not a problem at all! I really liked the background info you put in; it made the article much more comprehensive. Benny the mascot (talk) 17:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)


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With its customary dismissal of Wikimedia, The Register teases the FBI by posting a picture of a badge and gun, that it displays with the FBI's permission. The letter the FBI sent to Wikimedia is a disappointing waste of US taxpayers' money, not to mention that of Wikimedia donors.
 * http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/03/fbi_wikipedia_seal_row/

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FBI hasn't responded yet. Mikes letter was dated July 30th, so they probably only just got it.


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According to the New York Times, an FBI spokesperson basically reiterated what Larson already said.


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Revenge killings follow shooting of Karachi politician

August 7, 2010

Businesses remained closed for a second day on Wednesday in the Pakistani financial capital of Karachi, to mourn Raza Haider, a leading politician of the (MQM), assassinated on Monday. Nineteen people were killed on Tuesday in revenge killings, bringing the death toll to 49 over two days. Twenty-five shops and a number of vehicles including trucks and buses were burned in a series of arson attacks across the city.

Haider was gunned down while attending a funeral near the centre of the city. An officer at the police station said "[t]he number of attackers and the mode of their transport are not clear, but initial investigations suggest that there were more than two people who came on a motorcycle and they were probably backed by armed men in a car. They first shot at the legislator’s guard Khalid Khan and then entered the mosque and fired at Mr Haider who was in the  room."

Following the first night of revenge attacks and arson the MQM accused its main political rival, the (ANP), of supporting the Islamist militants suspected of the assassination. The MQM is a coalition partner with the ANP in the national government and is known as a party that holds great potential for mass mobilization in the province of Sindh.

The Associated Press (AP) said that the MQM's accusation "appeared to reflect the complex and vicious political and ethnic fault lines that crisscross Karachi."

The AP also said that Sharfuddin Memon, the head of the Citizen's Police Liason Committee had speculated that Haider's killing may be related to a government operation against "land mafias", who illegally occupy commercially valuable land. According to the AP's report it is alleged that some of these mafias have the backing of political parties.

According to human rights organizations there have been more than 300 political killings in Karachi this year.

By Tuesday evening the Jinnah Post Graduate Medical Centre had received 17 dead bodies and 55 injured. The head of the hospital, Dr Seemi Jamali, said that they had transfused 200 blood units to victims of targeted violence and that 31 gunshot victims had been operated upon that day.

This week's wave of violence and attacks began with the assassination of Raza Haider, but due to the nature of Karachi politics the exact motive behind Haider's murder is unclear. The Associated Press commented that the city has long been plagued by political violence between supporters of rival parties "that draw votes from different ethnic groups in the city of 16 million people." The publication said this muddied the reasons for the bloodshed.

Rehman Malik, Pakistan's Interior Minister was quoted by media as saying Islamist militants were likely suspects. He said that Haider had been on the extremist hit list. The BBC reported that they had been told by security officials in Karachi that there is evidence to suggest the assassination was carried out by the, Pakistan's deadliest militant group.

The BBC News website also reported that senior MQM leader Babar Ghauri had said: "Every MQM activist will now be looking to pay back the people involved in this heinous act".

Raza Haider was laid to rest on Tuesday at the Martyr's Graveyard in, northern Karachi. Hundreds of MQM members and supporters attended to pay their final respects to Haider and to his guard Khalid Khan, also killed in the shooting. The funeral took place under tight security, and with activists raising slogans against the violence that has gripped the city.


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Research
I think this is the story ("http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=30473") as published on the website of The News International, the biggest paper in Pakistan. Reliable I think and well written so that's one source. An article from the Associated Press, hosted by Google News, mentions the assassination of Raza Haider as the most high profile in a series of political slayings so that's two ("http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hkiMxbHNH0BqgpWA2ZG6VD6wVTmAD9HCF6I00"). Incidentally both sources say his death was on Monday the 2nd, while the article has it on the 3rd. I'm gonna go with the two sources and change it. I'll post these two sources and edit the article for style as well as filling it out a bit.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by FireLyte--spyre  (talk • contribs) 09:49, 4 August 2010

Headline
I am not sure if the headline should be changed to reflect the new content of the article. I am going to leave it since I thing it is adequate at least. FireLyte--spyre (talk) 11:23, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah that is a much better headline FireLyte--spyre (talk) 13:28, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Last Source
I cannot find an author for the last source ("http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=254591"). The article only says "By our correspondent". I'll just have to leave it authorless since I can't find out who it is by.FireLyte--spyre (talk) 11:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Plenty of sources don't credit authors. It is ok to leave 'author' blank in those cases (unless a news agency is credited.) --InfantGorilla (talk) 12:38, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Ok thanks. And thanks for all your help of the newbie =D. I guess the article is ready now as far as I can see. Unless I missed something. Just needs an independent review. FireLyte--spyre (talk) 13:05, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Well written
This is a good first article (do you write for other websites?)

It would be helpful if the article attempted to briefly explain the role of the MQM, and also why it is thought that the murders are revenge killings (it is connected with the victims' party affiliations, isn't it?)

That would make the article more accessible to readers like me who don't know the politics of Pakistan.

--InfantGorilla (talk) 13:06, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

 * No I don't write for other websites I'm just getting into stuff like this, I'm glad its a good first article though, it's encouraging :).
 * I'll do some more research and add those two things in. I was just being careful about moving off topic or making it too involved. FireLyte--spyre (talk) 13:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Assumptions

 * While copyediting, I brought in a couple of "facts" (name of party, national coalition) from the BBC article, and made a couple of assumptions about spelling and meaning. Could you check I got those right, please? --InfantGorilla (talk) 13:59, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

 * The name of the party is right definitely. I'm trying to check the national coalition fact but not getting anywhere. It is remarkably difficult to find that stuff out but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. I've read it and it certainly reads ok and the meaning seems perfect. I'm sure the coalition is right if it is from the BBC but I'll try and check anyway.FireLyte--spyre (talk) 14:13, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

 * The only confirmation of that I can find is also from the BBC. Looks like there was an election in 2008 and the ANP and MQM are the second and third most minor parties in it respectively. I would add this Source on but it isn't direct reference for the article just confirmation. Although from the same publisher I can't find anything better: ("http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7257525.stm") FireLyte--spyre (talk) 14:32, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

 * There are very few English language sources about Pakistan on the web (at least that I can find on Google.) Anyway, I read a couple of articles that leave me without doubt that MQM and ANP are coalition partners with PPP, both nationally and in the government of Sindh Province, and that it is a very uneasy partnership.
 * http://www.thenews.com.pk/print1.asp?id=254552
 * http://www.samaa.tv/News16688-MQMPPP_coalition_survives_another_rift.aspx
 * (No need to add these as sources, unless we want to mention the provincial coalition, but that will be several pages for a reviewer to read for one small fact. I just needed to do some research to assure myself that I had read the BBC article correctly, as mistakes can have real life consequences.)
 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:07, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Timing

 * I suppose I didn't think of it like that. Just out of interest what are the usual timings for wikinews articles? How long are articles kept for and how long should they take to develop before being published? I just wanted to know how it works in practice and how long I should take if I want to edit a story. FireLyte--spyre (talk) 15:44, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

 * 1) Articles that are published are kept for ever. They can change more (and be reviewed again) within the first 24 hours after publication.
 * 2) Review works much like many other wiki activities: you wait until a reviewer comes along who is interested in your article, has not contributed to it, and has time to do the review. Usually this is 12 to 24 hours.  There are six articles in the queue right now - one has been waiting 39 hours and one just two hours.  Some newer ones were reviewed and published before anyone picked the 39 hour one.  The first you see is a pass/fail, though sometimes kind reviewers will do some copyediting instead of failing immediately on style.
 * 3) Don't let an unpublished article go stale or abandon it. It will be deleted after a two or three day warning (though if it doesn't grievously infringe policy, an admin can "undelete" it at move it to 'user pages' for your reference or for you to update at your leisure.)
 * Is that too much detail? Please ask again (at Water Cooler perhaps) if I am unclear or I misunderstood your question.
 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 16:06, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

 * No that's fine that's all I wanted to know thanks =) Just learning the rules around here and that is perfectly clear FireLyte--spyre (talk) 16:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Yesterday WN:SG
I was having trouble understanding your last edit but I think I get it now. So if it was yesterday, tomorrow or today you don't date it or say Monday, Tuesday or whatever. Ok thanks. I thought you would state the date for future readers but this makes more sense. FireLyte--spyre (talk) 14:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

 * We don't state the date. The dateline is all that helps future readers.  I wasn't involved in the original decision, which makes sense.  When we follow the house style (whether we agree or not), readers get a more consistent experience. --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:10, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Neutrality
There a few problems with neutrality in this article. They are quite subtle, but with time you will learn to spot these yourself - it just needs practice. It is also a little unclear in parts.

"...which may explain why there has been so much violence and arson as well as so many revenge attacks as a result of Raza Haider's death." We can't make judgements like this; we must simply state the facts, though we can do so that makes it easy to draw conclusions on wether such a judgement is - or isn't - warranted. I'm also a little confused as in to why that would be the case; are you accusing the party of murderous corruption?

The party's former and current political direction (quasi-socialist, liberal etc) is something we should maybe attribute - who says this is how it should be? Something like "The Very Good News Agency describes the party as this, but notes that it was originally that when founded in its present form" would be good. Also, "...it is a the largest liberal political party in Pakistan and maintains a liberal, progressive and secular stance on many issues both political and social," reads kinda like a party press release.

"This reflects the violent, fractured and brutal nature of politics in the city." Yeah, I can agree with that, but it is our opinion that politics there are violent, fractured and brutal. Again, quote someone else as saying it.

"The trigger for the most recent wave of violence and attacks is the assassination of Raza Haider, but due to the nature of Karachi politics the exact motive behind Haider's murder is unclear." I'm not happy with this paragraph, especially this sentence. It basically follows on from my last above; namely, this is our judgement. Wikinews should not be promoting any particular take on events. "...supporters of the parties are accused of..." - who accuses them of these things?

For these reasons, the article cannot yet be published. You'll have to move sharply to get it in shape before it goes stale; once you get it ready for review again feel free to see who's online and start bugging them to review it for you. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:43, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

 * I have cut most (not all) of the political background from the article.
 * It takes some of the flow and depth out of the article, but unless FireLyte has time to properly research and rewrite the judgements with attributions (I don't) this is perhaps better than nothing to get it published before it goes stale.
 * I replaced one of the sentences I cut with this:
 * ''This week's wave of violence and attacks began with the assassination of Raza Haider, but due to the nature of Karachi politics the exact motive behind Haider's murder is unclear.
 * ... that seems factual, rather than a judgement, in my mind.

 * Hope that helps. If not, revert it, and try rewriting the background material and analysis according to Blood Red Sandman's recommendations.
 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 16:08, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

I haven't looked over your changes yet, but I'm happy with them based on your description. I'm about to write out a correction notice for another article, then I'll take a look here and maybe create some time to do a review. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:21, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

 * I see you're wanting the orgiginal author to check over your work. In that case, I won't review it until that has taken place (if I manage to review it at all). Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:32, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Alright I'm gonna try and get it in shape before 19:00 UTC. If I haven't got all the judgements sourced and the article isn't neutral by then I'll keep it as it is and bug someone to review it as you recommend. Thanks for the pointers I think I still need to get the hang of remaining neutral.

 * It's done. And just about on time too. I'm gonna bug someone in the IRC to review it now. FireLyte--spyre (talk) 19:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


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Northern lights may appear across Canada and northern U.S. late Tuesday night

August 3, 2010 Forecasters predict that could be visible to the naked eye late tonight and early tomorrow morning across, northern parts of the , and possibly the.

Solar storms caused a of  from the Sun's surface on Sunday, and the plasma is heading directly towards Earth. The plasma, a cloud of rapidly moving hydrogen gas atoms and subatomic particles, is expected to reach us late Tuesday. The plasma will interact with the and atmosphere, which will cause northern lights, or aurora borealis, to be visible much further south than is usual. Northern lights usually appear as green or red rivers of lights across the sky. "It's the first major Earth-directed eruption in quite some time" said astronomer Leon Golub of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. The eruption was detected by NASA's, which was launched in February 2010, and is currently orbiting the Earth.

The Sun goes through approximately eleven-year long activity cycles, with the last maximum occurring in 2001. Sunday's eruption is a sign that the many years of inactivity is over, and the Sun is heading towards another maximum.


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Thank you for your research on the Karachi violence story. I look forward to reading your developments to the article (or a new article from scratch if you prefer.) --InfantGorilla (talk) 11:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

 * I made some crude changes following Blood Red Sandman's review (at Talk:Revenge killings follow shooting of Karachi politician.) If you are ok with them, follow his suggestion and bug someone to review it.  If not, undo all my changes (I am not proud of them) and rework it to your satisfaction then put it up for review again. --InfantGorilla (talk) 16:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Totally unofficial but well deserved gong

 * Thankyou so much for this =D
 * It makes me feel all warm inside. FireLyte--spyre (talk) 19:03, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you from Karachi? --Saki (talk) 20:43, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I'm from Birmingham, England. Not from anywhere near Karachi. FireLyte--spyre (talk) 20:49, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Appeals
Two links that may interest you. --InfantGorilla (talk) 09:18, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Tsunami Help
 * http://www.crisiswiki.org/Pakistan_Floods_2010

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Talk:Northern lights may appear across Canada and northern U.S. late Tuesday night

Title ideas?
This title barely meets Wikinews usual standards, as we aim to identify a unique news event when we can. (Wikinews has been around for nearly 300 Tuesdays, and a lot of chances to see the aurora.)

I would like to write something like Best chance for northern lights in three years. However, I know little about aurora forecasting, so I don't know if that headline is true.

Ideas?

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 * Northern lights appear clearest for the first time three years, perhaps? — Mike moral  ♪♫  04:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Yes, sounds good, but is it three, or two, or four? The article and the sources are vague, so some expert help in digging up a suitable source for a more newsy headline would be great.  We only have 6 hours before the article is expected to remain stable. --InfantGorilla (talk)


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We're a little bit late reporting on this but could we have time now? --Saki (talk) 16:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You still have time, but it's running out. Can you find a newer source? Benny the mascot (talk) 16:59, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Added. --Saki (talk) 17:13, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Saki, tighten your text. "Which" Internet page has 1,600 fans. 24.125.55.90 (talk) 18:02, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Copyvio
Policy for copyvio is blankand rewrite on a subpage so the copyvio can be deleted. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk 18:49, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * My battery will die any second. The copyvio template must be used on this. All vio versions must be deleted, and the rewrite renamed into place. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk 19:50, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * So re-title the article already. 24.125.55.90 (talk) 19:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I took a look at the Times of India article, and the only non-quote that seemed to match was "A non-denominational church in Gainesville,Florida plans to burn copies of the Quran in protest of the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States." Was that the copyvio that you were referring to, Brian? Benny the mascot (talk) 21:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * We could go back to this version and change the title, or start from scratch.  Starting from scratch will probably create the better article. --InfantGorilla (talk) 21:54, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't even see where Benny the mascot gets any truthful linkage out of the text cited: "A non-denominational church in Gainesville,Florida plans to burn copies of the Quran in protest of the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States." I wrote that opening statement after editting the the original article page. Look people! There is no copyvio. 24.125.55.90 (talk) 22:24, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Benny, are you blind? 24.125.55.90 (talk) 22:29, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

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This article's current headline is a copyvio of the Times of India headline and needs to be changed. I am unable to perform this operation as an IP editor. As an involved editor, I'll offer as a suggestion: Pressure mounts against Florida church plans to burn Quran

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This is more in the nature of a question. Why is the opinions tab show one person's point of view and does not allow any additional posting?
 * Not correctly created it seems. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk 05:14, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Why has Scots Don deleted a comment posted on an opinion page? Was it because it was posted in Caps Lock, or because it was a heart-felt rant? Or was it because there is something weird and seriously wrong about the guy who deleted it? See this edit: http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Comments:Pressure_mounts_against_Florida_church_plans_to_burn_Quran&diff=next&oldid=1073409. Suck noogies, Scots Don. 76.161.101.210 (talk)

 * It seems the original commentator tried to post a comment before the article was published and opened for comments. This meant that other users couldn't add to the comments (and one complained above). I imagine the caps lock added to the annoyance. --InfantGorilla (talk) 14:27, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

 * It seems you missed the satirical nature in the edit summary. Also, after setting up the page properly the summary did say to re-enter the rant, now it can be done properly. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:32, 9 August 2010 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Briefs/August 2, 2010

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Today on Wikinews : As California attempts to get the Crown Fire under control, floods in Pakistan leave at least 800 dead; after 100 days, the Deepwater Horizon oil spill still threatens the Gulf coast; Chelsea Clinton gets married and, in history, one of the giants of American literature dies in 1988.

Today is Monday, August 02, 2010. I'm Dan Harlow and this is Wikinews.

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Over the weekend,

14,000-acre Southern California 'Crown Fire' at 82% containment, evacuation orders lifted (0:36)
the Crown Fire, which has burned through 13,980 acres in the High Desert of Southern California since Thursday, was, according to the Los Angeles County Fire Department at 82% containment Saturday evening.

On Friday, over 2,000 residents of Leona Valley, Ana Verde, and Rancho Vista were given mandatory evacuation orders as the sky was blanketed with thick orange pyrocumulus clouds and falling ash, making the air hard to breathe. However, by late Friday night, all existing evacuation orders were lifted and 500 residents of Rancho Vista were told to "shelter in place" until further notice. Yet despite the absence of mandatory evacuation orders, over 2,000 houses, 60 commercial buildings, and 100 outbuildings are still under threat.

At the height of the fire, 1,700 firefighters from all over California were battling the flames, although as of 12:00 pm Saturday afternoon, it has been reduced to around 1,350 personnel. Three firefighters have been injured battling the fire, although all injuries are minor. One sheriff deputy was also hospitalized for smoke inhalation but has since been released. The fire has so far destroyed one house and three mobile homes, damaging the roof of another and burning car garages, horse stables, and other outbuildings.

As dry conditions threaten the residents of California,

Deadly flooding in Pakistan kills hundreds (1:59)
The worst flooding in 80 years in Pakistan has left at least 800 people dead, and affected over a million more. The floods were caused by heavy monsoon rains and have destroyed homes in the country, especially in the northern province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

The Pakistan Meteorological Department said that twelve inches of rain fell over a 36 hour period. Sohail Rahman, reporting for Al Jazeera from Pakistan's capital of Islamabad, said that Islamabad experienced a "deluge of water" flowing south from Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa. He went on to say that "floods have really affected the infrastructure in and around the province. The people in the affected areas were quite critical in the first 24 hours, saying that the authorities were not doing enough."

Rescue operations have been hampered by the weather; while seventeen helicopters are operating, with more to come, they cannot operate in all areas due to the weather, and just 48 boats are available for use by rescue crews.

Last Wednesday, the bad weather was also to blame for a passenger plane crash which killed all 152 on board. Four days later, on Saturday,

'Black box' found near crash site of Airblue flight (3:02)
investigators found the black box and flight data recorder of Airblue Flight 202 that crashed into the Margalla Hills of Pakistan's capital city.

Junaid Amin, the head of Pakistan's Civil Aviation Authority, told CNN that the recorders will be sent to either Germany or France, which have the necessary resources to analyze the data. Such an investigation could take months to complete, however.

The black box records communication data and technical information such as speed and altitude, as well as conversations in the airplane cockpit. It could thus help investigators determine why the plane crashed.

Another air disaster, this time in Alaska, took place on Sunday when

Cargo plane crashes in Alaska's Denali Park, sparks wildfire (3:48)
a cargo plane crashed into a mountain in Alaska's Denali National Park, killing around three people and sparking a small wildfire after the aircraft disintegrated and burst into flames. According to the National Park Service, the plane crashed into the southern slope of Mount Healy, and the crash was just 200 yards away from Denali's only road.

Though it is estimated that three people died in the crash, it has been hard to determine exactly how many died as, according to park spokeswoman Kris Fister, "the plane pretty much disintegrated,". The explosion from the crash sparked a small wildfire that firefighters contained within two acres (one hectare.)

Though George Clare, a man from Las Vegas who witnessed the crash, thought the plane looked like a military aircraft, US military officials have stated that none of their planes were involved. Clare has said that the plane was "... a military khaki green kind of color. It was propellor-driven. It was a fixed wing aircraft and it had kind of a flat underbelly."

Jeff Kowalczyk, an EMT hiking through the 6,075,107 acre park with his wife, a nurse, said that he saw the plane positioned almost upside-down as it crashed. The crash was only a few hundred yards from where he was watching, and he also said "the whole experience was really surreal."

The crash came just four days after another major airplane crash that happened in the vicinity, when a military cargo plane crashed a minute after taking off at the Elmendorf Air Force Base in Anchorage. The crash killed four people onboard who were training for an airshow.

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After 100 days, Deepwater Horizon oil spill still threatens Gulf coast (6:06)
Last Wednesday marked the 100th day since the beginning of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill, and although the leaking well was recently capped, the estimated three million or more barrels of oil already in the Gulf of Mexico are still causing trouble for many residents of the Gulf coast.

There are still many unanswered questions about the long-term impact of the spill, including how it has affected the environment and natural habitats of the Gulf as well as whether residents of the area will be able to return to their jobs and livelihoods now that the leak has been capped. US government officials say that, even after the oil well is permanently sealed, workers will still have a lot to do, including the removal of around 20 million feet of containment boom. "I would characterize this as the first 100 days. There's a lot of work in front of us," said Rear Admiral Paul Zukunft of the US Coast Guard.

Authorities will use submarines to assess damage underwater, while teams on the ground assess the shoreline. While removing oil from beaches is expected to be fairly straightforward, cleaning the marshlands will be particularly difficult, as boats are needed to maneuver through small channels and workers are unable to stand on solid ground. At least 638 miles (1,027 kilometres) of the Gulf coast have been hit by the oil.

The government is focusing on both cleaning sensitive coastal regions and looking for underwater oil plumes, but is also probing into what may have been the largest accidental oil spill. The US Justice Department, as well as Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama, are all investigating what contributed to the disaster. The Washington Post reported one team is looking into whether a close relationship between BP and government regulators played a role in the spill. The Post also said that Deepwater Horizon operator Transocean as well as oil services group Halliburton were being investigated.

BP officials say that they will try to perform the "static kill" process on Monday, a process which involves pumping a thick mixture of mud and cement down into the cap currently stopping the leak. At the end of next week, one of two relief wells currently being drilled should reach the leaking well, and officials will then know if the static kill has worked. It is hoped that this "bottom kill" operation will be able to permanently seal the damaged well.

Even though BP is close to sealing the oil reservoir, it still faces legal battles, economic struggles, and internal changes. On Tuesday, BP announced Tony Hayward would step down from his position as the company's chief executive. His replacement, American Bob Dudley, will be the first non-British CEO of the company.

On Thursday, lawyers met at a Boise, Idaho hearing to determine how around 200 various lawsuits against BP will play out. Depending on whether the suits can be consolidated, BP could be facing years of legal disputes. BP, Transocean, and Halliburton had already blamed each other for the disaster during a May hearing before the US Senate. Federal regulatory officials were criticized for allegedly taking bribes and not thoroughly inspecting the oil rig.

The company also reported a quarterly loss of US$16.9 billion and said it has allocated US$32.2 billion to pay for the spill. BP has a US$20 billion fund to help make up for the massive losses of the Gulf fishing, oil, and tourism industries and will pay damages for each of the millions of barrels of oil lost in the disaster.

BP says that it is the "responsible party" for cleaning up the spill because it owned the leaking well and had leased the Deepwater Horizon oil rig, but claims that it is not responsible for the entire spill.

The overall economic picture for the United Sates was just as gloomy as

US Q2 economic growth slows to 2.4% (9:48)
the US government announced on Friday that economic growth in the US has slowed to 2.4% in the second quarter as the economy struggles with high unemployment and the aftermath of the worst recession since the 1930's.

This slower rate compares with a newly revised number of 3.7% for Q1, and 5% in Q4 of last year. Economists had been expecting economic growth of 2.5% for Q2.

For this year's second quarter, the Bureau of Economic Analysis' report on the economy carried more disappointing news. Consumer spending growth in the North American country slowed from 1.99% in Q1 to just 1.6%. Also, businesses and retailers stocked shelves at a slower pace, and America's trade deficit, the largest in the world, widened as the country imported more goods.

The US Commerce Department also revised some of their estimated economic growth statistics. The Department revised their estimate of Q1 economic growth from 2.7% to 3.7%, and also revised their estimate of the severity of the 2007–2009 recession from a real-GDP contraction of 2.5% to an new figure of 2.8%.

There were some economic bright spots in Q2. State and local governments, who have been cutting spending for months, spent 1.3% more than in Q1. Residential investment grew 27.9% from -12.3% in Q1. Nonresidential building investment rose for the first time in two years, and disposable personal incomes rose 4.4%, though it appears that people are not spending it.

One of US President Obama's plans to improve the US economy has been a focus on alternative energy and so on Friday,

US President Barack Obama test drives Chevy Volt in Michigan (11:39)
the President test drove a Chevrolet Volt during a visit to a General Motors plant in Michigan. The visit was part of a larger trip to the Detroit area to discuss the progress of Obama's bailout of the auto industry earlier in his administration.

As the president toured the factory, managers invited him to test drive the Volt, which will soon be manufactured there. After consulting reluctant top aides and Secret Service personnel, Obama accepted. "I hope it has an air bag," said press secretary Robert Gibbs. Obama hopped into the car with assembly manager Teri Quigley, buckled his seat belt, and crept forward about ten feet (three meters). As he got out he remarked that the ride was "pretty smooth".

Obama visited the Detroit area to defend his controversial decision to invest US$50 billion in the failing auto industry last year. "It's estimated we would have lost another million jobs had we not stepped in," said Obama. Instead, job growth totaled 50,000 workers this year, the largest since 1999. Obama warns, though, that recovery is not yet complete.

This was the second time Obama drove a car since early 2007, when as a presidential candidate he requested Secret Service protection. The first was a Dodge Charger, which he drove a few months ago at a Secret Service training facility.

As American consumers gear up to go green in their new automobiles, the US's leading professional stock car series stayed green despite threating rain clouds on Sunday giving

Greg Biffle 'earns' fifteenth career NASCAR Sprint Cup race win (13:10)
NASCAR Sprint Cup Series driver Greg Biffle his first win of the season after leading thirty laps during the 2010 Sunoco Red Cross Pennsylvania 500 at Pocono Raceway in Long Pond, Pennsylvania. The victory kept him in the top twelve points position, but he was still 428 points behind Kevin Harvick.

This was his fifteenth career victory; his previous win came sixty-four races ago in 2008 at Dover International Speedway.

Tony Stewart finished in the second position, ahead of Carl Edwards and Kevin Harvick in third and fourth, respectively. Denny Hamlin, Jeff Gordon, Mark Martin, Jeff Burton, Martin Truex, Jr., and Jimmie Johnson rounded out the top ten positions. The race had a total of five cautions and twenty-three lead changes among nine different drivers. Jimmie Johnson led the most laps by leading ninety-six.

In the point standings, Harvick and Gordon remained in the first and second position, and Hamlin maintained the third position as Johnson kept fourth. Burton, Kyle Busch, Kurt Busch, and Stewart followed in the top eight points positions. Matt Kenseth fell to the ninth position, as Edwards remained in tenth. Greg Biffle and Clint Bowyer rounded out the top twelve, and are currently in the Chase.

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UK military deaths in Afghanistan reach 327 (15:33)
On Monday, the Ministry of Defence announced that two UK troops died in Helmand Province, Afghanistan, as the result of two isolated occurrences yesterday. Small arms fire killed one soldier, who came from the 1st Battalion Scots Guards in the Lashkargah District.

The other individual, who was working as a Royal Marine within 40 Commando, was in the Sangin District when the explosion of an improvised explosive device (IED) occurred. The families of the deceased have now been notified.

Including these new deaths, the total number of UK military deaths in Afghanistan has rose to 327. The UK has been active in Afghanistan since October 2001. Task Force Helmand spokesman Lieutenant Colonel David Southall spoke of the soldier's "selfless courage and sacrifice". He commented: "Commanding his men, he was killed in action by small arms fire whilst providing security to the Afghan people." Southall also stated about the Marine: "He gave his life whilst seeking to improve the lives of ordinary Afghans. His sacrifice will not be forgotten."

Chelsea Clinton marries Marc Mezvinsky in Rhinebeck, New York (16:35)
Chelsea Clinton, the only daughter of former US president William Jefferson "Bill" Clinton and current US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, wed long-time boyfriend and investment banker Marc Mezvinsky on Saturday evening. The ceremony occurred in Rhinebeck, New York amidst a flurry of secrecy and speculation surrounding the event.

Not much was known about the wedding, and those involved in the event did not say anything to the media. An estimated 500 guests were at the ceremony, which took place at Astor Courts, a large Beaux Arts estate built for John Jacob Astor IV over 100 years ago. The secluded mansion is situated on 50 acres (20.2 hectares) of land in the small town of Rhinebeck. A no-fly zone was established over the estate.

The guest list was the subject of much speculation, but notable figures Oprah Winfrey, Steven Spielberg, and John Major reportedly did not attend the festivities. Madeleine Albright, Steve Bing, Warren Buffet, and Kobe Bryant were rumored to have been seen at the wedding.

The marriage ceremony was led by Rabbi James Ponet and the Reverend William Shillady. Mezvinsky, who is Jewish, wore a tallit (prayer shawl) and a yarmulke. Clinton is a Methodist. A Clinton family friend read the poem "The Life That I Have", by Leo Marks. Chelsea Clinton wore a strapless dress designed by Vera Wang. She had been spotted by Women's Wear Daily at Wang's New York showroom earlier last week, and Wang was reportedly seen in Rhinebeck as well.

The town of Rhinebeck was the subject of much public interest on Saturday. Photographers, journalists, and ordinary citizens lined the streets to get a peek at the celebrities attending the wedding. Many stores had signs saying something similar to "Congratulations Marc & Chelsea." Residents temporarily displaced by the wedding were even given bottles of wine for the inconvenience.

30-year-old Chelsea Clinton and 32-year-old Marc Mezvinsky first met in Washington, D.C. while teenagers, and both later attended Stanford University. Now living in New York, Mezvinsky works at G3 Capital as an investment banker, while Clinton recently earned her master's degree in public health at Columbia University. Mezvinsky is the son of the now-divorced Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky and Ed Mezvinsky, friends of the Clinton family.

Although thought to cost several million dollars, a Clinton family friend claimed that the event would carry a price tag of less than US$1 million.

Canadian singer Justin Bieber to publish memoir (18:52)
Canadian pop and R&B singer Justin Bieber has announced that he will publish a memoir. Titled Justin Bieber: First Step 2 Forever: My Story, the hardcover book features several photos and will cover the sixteen-year-old's "journey to superstardom".

The book is scheduled to be sold for US$21.99 starting on October 22. Along with a planned biopic and a biographical comic book titled Fame: Justin Bieber, the memoir is to form Bieber's three-part biography.

On this day in history (19:28)

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The opening to a compilation titled "Where I'm Calling From" bears a quote written by Milan Kundera from his novel "The Unbearable Lightness of Being". The quote reads "We can never know what to want, because, living only one life, we can neither compare it with our previous lives nor perfect it in our lives to come." In other words, things are clear in retrospect, but not as they are happening.

It is no mistake then that this quote opens the beginning to a collection of short stories by Rayomd Carver, who died on this day in history in 1988. Carver, who was only 50 when he died, described himself as "inclined toward brevity and intensity"; his writing focused on the blue-collar experience, and was clearly reflective of his own life; a life of alcoholism and recovery and most importantly, the theme of communication - or, more accurately, the inability and struggle to communicate with ourselves and each other.

Carver came from humble beginnings. He was born in Clatskanie, Oregon, a mill town along the Columbia River, and grew up in Yakima, Washington. His father, a skilled sawmill worker from Arkansas, was a fisherman and a heavy drinker and his mother worked on and off as a waitress and retail clerk.

As a child, he busied himself reading Mickey Spillane crime novels and, being an active hunter and fisherman, sports and outdoor recreation magazines. After high school, at the age of 19 in June 1957, he worked in the sawmill with his father and married Maryann Burk, who was 16 at the time. Their daughter, Christine La Rae, was born in December the same year.

When Carver was 20, he supported his family by working as a janitor, sawmill laborer, delivery man, and library assistant while Maryann worked as a waitress, salesperson, administrative assistant, and high school English teacher.

The family then moved to California where Maryann's mother lived and Carver soon became interested in writing. While attending a creative-writing course, he met the novelist John Gardner who would become his mentor and ultimately had a major influence on Carver's life and career.

By 1963, after attending Chico State University and Humboldt State College, Carver had earned his BA and began to publish and edit in the University literary magazine Toyon. In 1968, while working as a night custodian he published his first book of poetry titled Near Klamath with the guidance of poet Dennis Schmitz. For three years he held a job as a textbook editor for Science Research Associates but was fired in 1970 for his inappropriate writing style, however at this piont his writing career began to take off.

Carver's writing style and themes are often identified with Ernest Hemingway and Anton Chekhov with minimalism being generally seen as one of the hallmarks of Carver's work. This style grew from Gardner's advice for Carver to use fifteen words instead of twenty-five and more dramatically, when Carver was being edited by the famed Esquire magazine editor Gordon Lish to use five in place of fifteen. However, objecting to the "surgical amputation and transplantation" of Lish's heavy editing, Carver eventually broke with him.

His style has also been described as Dirty realism, which connected him with a group of writers in the 1970s and 1980s that included Richard Ford, Tobias Wolff -- two writers Carver was closely acquainted with -- as well as Ann Beattie and Jayne Anne Phillips. With the exception of Beattie, who wrote about upper-middle class people, these were writers who focused on sadness and loss in the everyday lives of ordinary people -- often lower-middle class or isolated and marginalized people -- who represent Henry David Thoreau's idea of living lives of "quiet desperation."

Carver's focus on short stories and poems was "that the story [or poem] can be written and read in one sitting." This was not simply a preference but, particularly at the beginning of his career, a practical consideration as he juggled writing with work and family.

During his years of working different jobs, rearing children, and trying to write, Carver started to drink heavily. By his own admission, eventually he more or less gave up writing and took to full-time drinking. In the fall semester of 1973, Carver was a teacher in the Iowa Writers' Workshop with John Cheever, but Carver stated that they did less teaching than drinking and almost no writing. The next year, after leaving Iowa City, Cheever went to a treatment center to attempt to overcome his alcoholism, but Carver continued drinking for three years. After being hospitalized three times (between June 1976 and February or March 1977), Carver began his 'second life' and stopped drinking on June 2, 1977, with the help of Alcoholics Anonymous.

By 1984, Carver was nominated for his second National Book Award for his collection of short stories titled Cathedral, a story Carver saw as a watershed in his career in its shift towards a more optimistic and confidently poetic style.

It is within this collection that Carver's theme of communication and human connectedness is most apparent. In the story titled "A Small, Good Thing", Carver writes about a family who have just lost their child after being hit by a car in a minor accident. In the story, he writes "[Ann]", the boy's mother, "gazed out into the parking lot and then turned around and looked back at the front of the hospital. She began shaking her head. "No, no," she said. "I can't leave him here, no." She heard herself say that and though how unfair it was that the only words that came out were the sort of words used on TV shows where people were stunned by violent or sudden deaths. She wanted her words to be her own."

In Cathedral, "A Small, Good Thing" is printed near the halfway point of the collection, yet the final story, the titular "Cathedral", resolves this inability for characters to communicate. In the story, the main character is asked to draw a cathedral for an old blind man who has no concept of a cathedral, a task he is reluctant to do, but in the process of moving the pen across the paper as the old, blind man holds onto the main characters pen hand, he experiences a brief moment of revelation which he can only describe as "It's really something".

Much like the main character, Carver had experienced a real breakthrough, and by this point he was considered one of the major figures in American literature. However, in 1988, only 6 weeks after marrying his second wife, Tess Gallagher, herself a writer, he died of lung cancer at only 50 years old.

Yet Carver believed he would have died of alcoholism at the age of 40 if he hadn't found a way to stop drinking. When he knew the cancer would kill him, he wrote a poem about that bonus of 10 years, called "Gravy."

So, while me may not know how to make sense of our lives as we live them, we can at least appreciate them in the short time we all have.

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There have been some rumors that you like to inject a few ad lib jokes into the news briefs....sooo I decided to check out this video. Let's build that cathedral!! :) —Benny the mascot (talk) 22:49, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You busted me :) Hey, if we can get the funding for a nice, Gothic cathedral we'd be doing pretty good with our fund raising abilities. Turtlestack (talk) 23:58, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

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anybody with a better sense of humanity should be given the chance to run for any office regardless of his/her former career and place of birth, so and so forth. as i know the people of Haiti want to use rogue Constitution to disqualify jean not to run for the president office. It is high time the people of this generation reject such rogue declaration.


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