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Wikinews:Dispute resolution/Users Cartman02au and Amgine

Statement of Dispute: Cartman02au
Users involved: Amgine and Cartman02au.

Unreasonable article deletion
I posted an article which was deleted by Amgine as being "PR and incitement for riot". This deletion was made without proper consultation. I later reposted the article, where another administrator suggested I merge it with another topic.

As a new user to this site, and hopefully a valuable contributor I believe that proper explanation should have occured.

Ignores messages
Following the above I attempted to contact Amgine and was ignored. Amgine had posted to another page following my posting. Administrators should try to assist new users where possible, not ignore and alienate them.

Hypocrisy
I believe Amgine's signature advertising his competing site is complete hypocrisy. After complaining that my posting was "PR" he posts a signature linking to his talk page on another site. As an administrator suce conflicts of interest should not exist.

Faults on my behalf
Cartman02au 01:09, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Not knowing correct procedures on Wikinews
 * 2) Not knowing about this process
 * 3) Prematurely lodging an RfDA

Addition to statement of dispute: Cartman02au
Amgine is alleging that I am a meat puppet. It is not the first time Amgine has made similar allegations against another user who disagrees with him.

Rebuttal by Amgine
The user is invited to insert a rebuttal here

 * 1) Unreasonable article deletion
 * On en.Wikinews, press releases of any form are speedy deletion candidates as advertising. The article in its original state strongly resembeled a press release which might have been made by organizers of riots. Coupled with the complete quote of the message on the talk page, the entire article appeared to be an incitement to riot, not reporting of news.
 * Speedy deletion candidates may be deleted on sight, without a requirement for discussion or notification. See Speedy deletion guidelines.
 * 1) Ignores messages
 * The user posted to my talk page at 23:52, 12 December 2005 (UTC). The user asked my adminship be revoked 24 hours and 40 minutes later for not responding to his message and for deleting "his" article, at 00:32, 14 December 2005.
 * I should certainly have responded to the user. However, during the timeframe covered I RC patroled 27 sites and was involved in making edits on the following sites:
 * Wikinews sites:
 * en
 * Wiktionary sites:
 * sc rv pa en
 * Meta.Wikimedia: meta (also an admin there)
 * I also was involved in getting Arabic and Thai wikinews started, getting administrators created on these two new editions and various other elements involved in starting new wikis for Wikimedia.
 * This of course is only detailing my involvement on Wikimedia projects. Perhaps it is a bit much, but I also do things outside of Wikimedia; December 13th was my birthday, and I celebrated with my family.
 * 1) Hypocrisy
 * I should have written out that I meant Press Release, not public relations.
 * My signature links to my user page on my personal wiki, which I have in the past and hope in the future to be my primary online project. It is a non-profit education project for students of journalism, as may be discerned by anyone who visits it. Users such as Cartman02au complain when I do not respond quickly to them because I am not focused solely on the site they happen to have left a message for me on, so I feel it is better to have a single, central user page which I am most likely to catch messages on.
 * 1) Faults on my behalf
 * I do not consider any of these to be faults of Cartman02au. Although the move to request a de-adminship was a bit extreme, it is was a request made in good faith and ostensibly for the improvement of the community.
 * 1) Addition to statement of dispute: Cartman02au
 * By my broader definition (as explained on Cartman02au's talk page), the user was likely manipulated to react more negatively, and more extremely, than he otherwise might have. I stand by what I said there, and here. -  Amgine | talk 05:29, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * My signature links to my user page on my personal wiki, which I have in the past and hope in the future to be my primary online project. It is a non-profit education project for students of journalism, as may be discerned by anyone who visits it. Users such as Cartman02au complain when I do not respond quickly to them because I am not focused solely on the site they happen to have left a message for me on, so I feel it is better to have a single, central user page which I am most likely to catch messages on.
 * 1) Faults on my behalf
 * I do not consider any of these to be faults of Cartman02au. Although the move to request a de-adminship was a bit extreme, it is was a request made in good faith and ostensibly for the improvement of the community.
 * 1) Addition to statement of dispute: Cartman02au
 * By my broader definition (as explained on Cartman02au's talk page), the user was likely manipulated to react more negatively, and more extremely, than he otherwise might have. I stand by what I said there, and here. -  Amgine | talk 05:29, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Addition to statement of dispute: Cartman02au
 * By my broader definition (as explained on Cartman02au's talk page), the user was likely manipulated to react more negatively, and more extremely, than he otherwise might have. I stand by what I said there, and here. -  Amgine | talk 05:29, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Statement of dispute: Amgine
I gladly accept this request for dispute resolution.

Although I regret not being able to communicate more easily with User:Cartman02au, and his choice to file a request for de-adminship against me without giving much time for me to respond to his single attempt to communicate with me, I do not have any dispute with the user.

Rebuttal by Cartman02au
1. Unreasonable article deletion Perhaps I should have included in the talk page the reasoning behind me posting the article as I did when it was reposted. It was not a press release, there was no intention of inciting what I believe to be disgusting behaviour (which I hoped to keep out of the article according to NPOV ideals.

I do feel that the deletion was unreasonable and in poor judgement (in the lightest possible terms). I feel that the administrator which suggested that I merge the second article (almost a copy of the first) with the Sydney violence continues article made a much better judgement call.

Perhaps it would have been suitable to mark it as a developing story or to mark it in some other way.

2. Ignores messages I genuninely felt I was being ignored due to the fact that Amgine had been active on this site around 7 hours after I posted my request. I can understand that people have lives away from WN and that other things take priority.

3. Hypocrisy I am still undecided on this. I feel as though the link is advertising for another site, which I personally feel is inappropriate for an administrator to do. At the same time I do believe that you are genuine in your reasoning for doing this.

4. Faults on my behalf The RfDA was premature. I had looked at what others had said about Amgine on his talk page (and his lack of response) and believed he was arrogant by my perceived ignoring of messages and that he failed to follow site policy by deleting the article.

The fact of the matter is someone as active as Amgine on WN is always going to receive critism. In my experience people rather complain than compliment.

5. Addition of statement of dispute I am still annoyed by the meat puppet allegation. I have not been influenced by others (apart from reading past comments). I can see how you come to this conclusion but I deny it.

Request for moderator
I request a moderator from the community. I would suggest user:Carman02au make proposals for someone to serve as moderator as I do not wish to delay this dispute resolution further. -  Amgine | talk 23:17, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I have sent a message to User:Chiacomo to act as moderator as he was kind enough to refer me to the dispute resolution preocess Cartman02au 03:15, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I will gladly moderate and feel that I can impartially render a decision, however, parties should be aware that I consider Amgine a friend. --Chiacomo (talk) 03:20, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with you considering Amgine a friend. You were kind enough to provide me with information on a sensible course of action and for that I consider you to be impartial to this matter. Cartman02au 03:27, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * If Amgine is agreeable, I'll consent to moderating this dispute. --Chiacomo (talk) 03:28, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

I am agreeable for Chiacomo to moderate. Apologies for my late response. -  Amgine | talk 03:35, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Moderator's Requests

 * Parties are invited to insert rebuttals or mitigating statements above within 24 hours of this timestamp. If you require more time, please let me know. --Chiacomo (talk) 03:42, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Comment i think the signature editing is open to abuse and and as a policy everyones signature should link to their own wikinews profile. (for all we know we could leave comments and with her admin status he could make them disappear from history even or alter them.) Personally i cant beleive a admin would pull this sort of thing and that other admins let this happen. I believe it also reflects poorly on wikinews. I see no problems with leaving a note or links to your other project talk pages in your wikinews talk page but not in your signature everyone who clicks on a signature expects that wiki projects talkpage not something else,its disreputable.--Whywhywhy 13:07, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Reply: After thinking about it a little further (and I'd like to see what Amgine thinks of this) it is damn annoying if you want to communicate with a user to click on his signature and go to a different site. Instead of using the navigation features of this wiki you go elsewhere and find it an annoyance to come back to WN. Cartman02au 22:11, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Chiacomo, Cartman02au - I've less than 24 hours before departing on a road trip. I'd like to move on to discussing possible resolutions if we can? I would like to hear what Cartman02au would like to see me improve on to address his concerns, above. -  Amgine | talk 20:53, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

 * With regards to the unreasonable deletion, I would like to see that in the future that a little more communication occur. I (and some others) do not believe that it was PR and that it should have been considered for deletion under normal guidelines not speedy deletion. As for your signature, I must admit I like WhyWhyWhy's suggestion - it seems reasonable to me. I also think that the meat puppet statement should be retracted.

 * Now on my side - I apologise for the RfDA, it was unfair and ill thought out. I honestly believed (at the time) for it to be the best course of action.

 * Finally, have a safe trip. Cartman02au 22:09, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank you!

 * I'm not sure how I can retract a personal opinion. I will gladly state that you are not an account created at the behest of a third person to attack me, nor are you a sock puppet.

 * I'll start a resolution here and see what you think of it, Cartman02au:

 * I resolve, for the next 30 days, to not speedy delete anything saving clear and unambiguous vandalism. Where I find an article which I believe is in need of a speedy deletion I will mark it with to flag it for another admin's attention. At that time I will consult with Cartman02au whether to extend or modify this resolution.

 * Regarding the signature, this has previously been discussed on this wiki and elsewhere. If you would like I can add link-backs to all the sites where I edit to the talk page, and keep it very short. Since I only edit about 50 wikimedia projects it should be a relatively easy menu.

 *  -  Amgine | talk 22:27, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

 * yup thanks :) --Whywhywhy 12:31, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I believe the resolution to be a bit over the top. As for speedy deletion, I can understand the need for you to do it in alot of cases (as an active Administrator) but would appreciate if it if more discretion was used in the future. Frankly, if the article appears to be genuine, perhaps mark it as a developing story and ask the author to explain themselves, or refer it to standard deletion. Perhaps if it is ambiguous a second administrator's opinion could be sought.
 * With regard to the signature, I cant see the problem with linking to your WN talk page with something along the lines of "I do not check this that often, I prefer to use blah blah. It seems to be to be a slap in the face of WN to link to another talk page. There again (this is personal taste and opinion) I edit a heck of alot of wikis and use a talk page for each - it makes it easier to distinguish between issues here, at WP, MME, etc. I am sure if I kept linking to my wiki people would be upset within a short maount of time.
 * The statement that I am not an account created at the request of someone else satisfies me. That is what I think being a meat puppet is.

 * I will do as you suggest. I've incorporated Why^3's suggestion, and will also incorporate your suggestion for my talk page here. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 02:48, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I think the new signature is reasonable Cartman02au 20:57, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Well amgine if you dont have time to check your talk page in wikinews then maybe you shouldnt be admin here because you are stretched to thin threw the projects. My opinion is that if you have enough time to admin wiki news you should have time to check your talk here. Maybe you can warn people that they may not recieve a speedy response and suggest they respnd on your wiki. At the very least you could added a link in your signature to your wiki news talk.
 * so it looked like this:-  Amgine | talk WikiNewsTalk AHHH I didnt sign my comment--Whywhywhy 02:14, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * and ima only guessing thats your user page cos on this users page it says :
 * Amgine has left the project... It's been a great ride, and I've had a lot of good times, but I don't feel I can be supportive of the direction the project appears to be headed. So, to avoid further controversy, I'm withdrawing from en.wikinews.org projects.--Whywhywhy 02:18, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I know I kind of missed the boat for disscussion here, but, I think the problem with Admins speedy deleting and forgeting is a major problem that most of us our guilty of. People who work hard to do something and then magicly have it deleted, are probally not going to come back. Maybe we should move more towards a test1 test2 test3 test4, system like wikipedia. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:09, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Amgine
Amgine,

It is fortunate that I am an administrator as it allows me to view the deleted pages at the heart of this dispute. The article created by Cartman02au was NPOV, at best. The user did provide original reporting notes -- a copy of a messages posted to various news groups. A NPOV tag and a note on the talk page requesting more sources might have been more appropriate. I do, however, understand the deletion in that Wikinews is the daily target of individuals wishing to subvert the project to promote their own political and commercial agendas. I can't throw many stones as I might have deleted the page on sight myself as well. Hindsight is 20/20.

I am fully aware -- perhaps a bit more than most -- of your contributions to the various WMF projects. I know that you spend hours each day patrolling the low-edit projects and your work is greatly appreciated. It is understandable that a message left on your talk page might not receive a timely response -- however, as administrators, we should strive to respond to all messages left by users... Especially those that relate to the duties of an administrator. I am, as always (and sometimes to my own detriment), willing to assume good faith and accept that your schedule and activities might have prevented you from responding immediately to the user's request.

As concerns your signature... Well, on other Wiki project, I too point to an off-project talk page. Most, if not all, of my signatures point to Wikinews. However, as you are an active editor on this project -- probably as active here as anywhere else, and as you are an administrator, it is not unreasonable to present other users with the option to leave a message on this project. As you very active here, you will be notified on your next page view of new messages on your talk page. You have already adjusted your signature to include a link to en.Wikinews -- your willingness to compromise is appreciated.

I agree that the Cartman02au's actions might indicate that xe is behaving as a meat-puppet, but, again, I am willing to assume good faith.

Your contributions are invaluable and I hope you will take my observations and recommendations seriously. I consider you a friend and know that, though we may not always agree, we are united in our mission to further the goals of Wikinews. --Chiacomo (talk) 05:27, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Cartman02au
Cartman02au,

One of the principals of wiki, at least as concerns WMF projects, is the ability for anyone to edit. Because our community is so open, we do suffer under a constant barrage of press-releases, propaganda, and basic utter nonsense. Administrators, though not as busy as on Wikipedia, are constantly reviewing page creations and edits in an attempt to preserve the integrity of the project. A vandalised or bogus page adds nothing to the project and can be harmful to the project if, for example, new users are repulsed by vulgar or rediculous content... or, perhaps more harmful, a representative of main stream media might stumble upon such a page and draw incorrect conclusions about the quality of the content produced by the project. Administrators roll-back and speedy-delete pages throughout the day -- usually with no notice to the contributor as most contributors never return after posting speedy content.

Your article is a bit different, however, as you did post original reporting notes. I cannot say what I would have done, had I come across your article. I'd like to think that I would have posted a NPOV notice on the page and requested more sources on the talk page. Perhaps not -- I might have been busy in real life and simply hit the delete key.

Your response to the deletion was a bit extreme. An RfDA is a serious procedure and calls into question the integrity and commmitment of an individual to the project. A more appropriate response would have been to first, attempt to discuss the deletion with Amgine (which I see you did), and failing that, discuss the deletion with other administrators. Finally, this process, would have been preferable. Of course, the article was recreated in another form with more sources and a more balanced tone. That article was excellent, in my opinion, and demonstrates some of the better qualities of Wikinews.

Many users on many projects maintain their talk pages on other projects. I think Amgine has made a good faith attempt to resolve any confusion about his signature and I will not address this further unless you wish. Policy does not define where a user keeps his talk page -- and I would oppose any move to include restrictions in policy.

Recent actions on this project and others indicate that there is an ongoing witch hunt against Amgine. He has apparently created enemies on other projects and their disputes are bleeding over onto Wikinews. Your RfDA was probably coincidentally timed with these other disputes, but, as you yourself said, I can see how [Amgine] come to this conclusion -- namely, that you are/were a meat-puppet. I really don't care -- users are perfectly within their rights to rally their friends to support them. What does bother me (and I'm not addressing you, necessarily) is the influx of editors from other projects to Wikinews who come with, apparently, the single purpose to involve themselves in site politics.

Wikis are all about discussion and collaboration. I would encourage you, in the future, to attempt to resolve your disputes and to solve problems without resorting to official procedures. If all editors assumed good faith and all editors acted with the best interest of the project at heart, we wouldn't need Administrators or speedy-delete or many of the other policies and procedures that seem to bog us down.

I am pleased you have chosen to join this project and already you have made valuable contributions to Wikinews. Please review my statement to Amgine and my statement to you. Please let me know if I can clarify any point, and of course, please let me know if I can assist you in any way on Wikinews. --Chiacomo (talk) 05:27, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thankyou for your assistance Chiacomo, you have been a great help. I appreciate the fact that you took the time to inform me about this process after I lodged the RfDA. I guess at the time I was annoyed that I felt like I was being ignored by Amgine. In hindsight, the RfDA was a knee-jerk reaction.

 * I am happy with what Amgine has proposed to do and if I resolve that in the future if I have any issue with him that I will give him at least 2-3 days to respond before I get huffy about it :).

 * With respect to the meat puppet allegation, I can understand it and yes it is coincidental. The only influence I had was my own dispute and reading Amgine's talk page, where complaints seem to be made a fair bit, but ignored. Again, in hindsight someone as active as Amgine is always going to draw critism and people are more likely to complain than compliment. Cartman02au 21:04, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Resolutions
I resolve to be more circumspect in my use of the speedy deletion, requesting second opinions where the situation is not clear to me. I have added a link to my en.Wikinews talk page to my signature here, and have added a note to my talk page giving several means of contacting me as well as a list of most of my wikimedia foundation account talk pages. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 04:37, 16 December 2005 (UTC)


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US House honors Representative John Dingell

December 14, 2005 Representative, (-Michigan) was honored by Democratic Whip (-Maryland) for 50 years of continuous service in the United States House of Representatives. Representative (-Michigan) continued the praise of Dingell's service in the House through 10 Presidencies. Speaker of the House and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi jointly authored a resolution honoring his long tenure.

Dingell has been instrumental in drafting, improving or supporting legislation from the obscure to the  and continues his quest for universal health care via the House version of the. Mr. Dingell was honored earlier at the White House with a Presidential lunch.

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/


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User talk:Xelo2004~enwikinews

Talk user nature of [Galician], please message in spanish.

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Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

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René Préval leading Haitian election according to opinion poll

December 11, 2005

An opinion poll conducted by CID group and Gallup in early November shows that former president René Préval is the frontrunner for the upcoming January elections. These will be the first elections held in Haiti since the overthrow of President Aristide in 2004. Préval is a former member of the Lavalas family party, the party of Aristide. Préval is running as an independent in this election and Lavalas is expected to run former prime minister, and currently imprisoned, Jean-Juste.

The poll surveyed the opinions of 1,200 people, and 32 percent said they favored Préval. Coming in second was the Haitian-American industrialist Dumarsais Siméus with 21 percent. Former president Leslie François Manigat came in a distant third with 5 percent. Others receiving a vote include Evans Paul, a former mayor of Port-au-Prince with 4 percent, Guy Philippe, leader of the 2004 rebellion to overthrow Aristide with 4 percent, Serge Gilles, a former senator with 4 percent, Marc Bazin with 4 percent, Charles Henri Baker with 2 percent, and Dany Toussaint with 2 percent.


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User talk:203.134.71.248

Hi! Thanks for your contributions to the article Sydney racial violence continues. I've removed them because, in my opinion, they are in violation of Wikinews' neutral point of view policy. You shouldn't take this personally though! If you think that your changes should be included in the article, please leave a comment explaining why on the article talk page. Welcome to Wikinews! - Borofkin 03:10, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:67.165.217.42

Welcome
67.165.217.42, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 03:12, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
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Your vote on WN:A
I must ask you once again, respectfully, that you withdraw your vote on WN:A since you are acting on actions on another project, and that Amgine's adminship is only good for this project. I severely hope you weigh the importance of your vote and its significance to Wikinews, and not Wikitionary. --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 03:12, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Please do not sign with my name
I noticed on WN:A that you signed my name and a date and time to the voting. Please do not do this.

Banned
You have been permanently banned for forging a comment on a consensus poll that was another user's comments that were not their own. You impersonated Carman02au. As you claim you are a member of other WMF projects, I am trusting that you knew in advance of the proper conduct and the policies (which are similar to Wikipedia's, in most part). Please do not do this on another wiki. --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 03:26, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

 * They were for the ban, so I placed their votes in the proper place in order for them to be tallied. I didn't change the votes at all! 67.165.217.42 03:28, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, you did. Cartman02au never voted for Amgine's removal of RfdA; even though you nominate it, it doesn't tally as a vote.  Furthermore, the very same user never made a statement in which you forged it to be.  The ban stands.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 03:32, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * It is standard procedure to place a 24-hour ban on a user, not a perma-ban. I guess you wouldn't care about that, though, would you? 67.165.217.42 03:35, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * This is a community consensus poll, and your prior knowledge of wiki etiquette means you should have known better. If you wish to take it up with another admin, so be it - but you impersonated another user, and used that to forge a vote.  Which part do you disagree with?  --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 03:37, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I disagree with (1) the permanent ban (I did not read that what I did was impersonation any where, so I was not knowledgeable), and (2) the fact that you did not warn me before banning me. 67.165.217.42 03:42, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Please do not send spam
I have received this email message, supposedly from you.

Hello,

I have been permenently banned by Mrmiscellanious on a charge of vote forging  on the Wikipedia:Administrators's Amgine Request for De-Aminship vote. However, I was simply tallying the votes so that they could be counted--they had already been placed against Amgine . Further, MrMiscellanious did not warn me or inform me that such was forgery until after he had blocked me. He is also ignoring the 24-hour convention. If I am un-blocked, I will not do what I did again.

Sincerely,

The Champion

Sending spam is bad idea anyway. You may be right, or you may be wrong, but the way you express your emotions is such that I don't want to look closer into what's going on. If you're a newbie I would suggest that you say sorry, create a login and stay far from voting. Thank you, Ilya 07:09, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Primetime
FYI, this user is Primetime, who has been banned from en.Wikipedia and en.Wiktionary due to rampant copyright violations and general bad behavior. -Will Beback 10:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

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Israel preparing for attack on alleged Iranian nuclear sites

December 14, 2005

The London Times has reported that, according to military sources, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has ordered Israel's armed forces to be prepared by the end of March for an attack on alleged secret uranium enrichment sites in Iran.

Israel has officially denied that it plans to attack Iran. However, Sharon warned, "Israel—and not only Israel—cannot accept a nuclear Iran. We have the ability to deal with this and we’re making all the necessary preparations to be ready for such a situation."

Israel is now at "G" readiness, which is the highest stage.

Israel's general election is on March 28, which coincides with the March deadline set by Sharon. Former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is currently the frontrunner to lead the Likud party, claimed that if Sharon does not attack "then when I form the new Israeli government, we’ll do what we did in the past against Saddam’s reactor, which gave us 20 years of tranquillity".

The uranium enrichment sites are said to be concealed in civilian locations.


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User talk:71.52.210.141

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! Thank you for your contributions; I hope you like the place and decide to stay! If you haven't done so already, you may want to create an account.

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Israel Preparing For Attack On Iran
Excellent article. It did require some cleanup so I popped it back into develop. I'd also like to add another source. Do you have one? --Chiacomo (talk) 04:42, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Israel preparing for attack on alleged Iranian nuclear sites

Title misleading, additional sources
Initially, I was all for publishing this article. I've looked for additional sources (because 2 is better than 1, 3 is better than 2, etc) and found that "Israeli officials" have denied preparations for an attack. This is an important article, but should be developed a bit more. I added one additional source that includes the denial on the second page. --Chiacomo (talk) 05:25, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, the title should not be so absolute about it; even if the article is completely true, it should say "possible attack". As it is, Chiacomo's sources should be examined & appropriate changes made to the article; then a new title should be chosen. If a new title must be chosen immediately, I suggest "Controversy over possible Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear sites." Or "... on alleged Iranian nuclear weapons sites"

The Isrealis, *unlike* the Americans, are generally competent at intelligence gathering; and I think everyone knows where the Iranian nuclear projects are housed. So we can be confident that the Isreal would hit real "nuclear sites", again unlike the Americans in Iraq. However, the civilian or military role of the sites will obviously remain in question. So "alleged" is not necissary if you only say "nuclear sites", but "alleged" is critical if the title suggests that the sites are millitary. Nyarlathotep 20:41, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Rename the title to "possible", add the same to the article and cite at least one denial in the article and publish it. - Texture 20:50, 14 December 2005 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Briefs/December 14, 2005

December 14, 2005

These are short blurbs about current events in the technology world.

Risks Digest points out "quite a coincidence"
You have probably heard about the recent Mizuho Securities stock-trading snafu. Mizuho mistakenly tried to sell 610,000 shares of J-Com Co., a company traded on the Tokyo stock market, for just 1 yen each. In fact, it was trying to sell 1 share for 610,000 yen.

Various newspapers, as well as Jeremy Epstein writing in Monday's Risks Digest, pointed out there was a similar snafu on the Tokyo stock market four years ago. Epstein quoted an earlier Digest from 2001 which described the story of a UBS Warburg trader, instead of entering an order to sell 16 Dentsu shares at 610,000 yen each, accidentally put in an order to sell 610,000 Dentsu shares for 16 yen each.

Epstein commented:

"That was also on the day of a "public debut" (aka IPO). However, it was a bargain - [the earlier snafu] cost UBS Warburg about $100M vs. about $235M [this year] for Mizuho Securities.

"I assume it's just coincidence that these two failures were both on the Tokyo Stock market."

Peter G. Neumann, the Risks Digest moderator, added in a footnote:

"I knew the new case sounded familiar! Perhaps the 610,000 is a default number for an erroneous field? That's quite a coincidence."

Neumann noticed quite a coincidence indeed. But could the recurrence of the number 610,000 in both stories possibly be more than a coincidence?

Ruby on Rails hits the big 1.0
Ruby on Rails, a open-source Web development framework, finally reached version 1.0.0 yesterday. The Rails movie page has been updated for the occasion. This represents a significant milestone for the Rails Core Team.

Related links

 * try Ruby online - an interactive tutorial (requires Javascript)
 * Rails tutorial for Windows users

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Pictures, copyedit, factcheck, wikify
Could someone add pictures for these stories and perhaps copyedit / fact-check / wikify the Tokyo stock story? Thanks. :) Unforgettableid 08:52, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

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NOTE: All text on the attached article page written by me, Unforgettableid, is dual-licensed under either the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 License or the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version, at your option. Therefore, you can copy & paste to Wikipedia. Unforgettableid 08:52, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
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Good idea
Technology Briefs are a great idea, I plan to try to write a few :)--Cspurrier 16:00, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Great! Because I realized when I wrote this brief that finding a good story that's easy to summarize can be hard. :) Unforgettableid 18:26, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Advocacy
Hi. I like what you're doing with these briefs — in fact, I like the briefs model very much. However, the recent Ruby story started to cross over into editorial space a bit, with advocacy etc. Please try to keep those aspects of the briefs out for now, so that we can still retain an NPOV towards technology. Thanks :) -- IlyaHaykinson 03:35, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Good point. (It was meant to be a Slashdot story but I was too late.) :) Is what I did now ok? Feel free to revert it if bad, but I think the 2 links are a good service. Unforgettableid 04:52, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
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ALP appoints SLW Group for 2007 election campaign

December 14, 2005 The Australian Labor Party has appointed SLW Group to run it's advertisement campaign for the 2007 Australian Legislative Election.

STW Group was successul in gaining the $10 million account it was revealed today. The team dubbed "07" will be lead by senior executives, Luke Dunkerley and Neil Lawrence.

ALP campaign director Tim Gartell said that Lawrence had a wealth of experience with political campaigns, being part of the adveritsement team responsible for the election of a Victorian Labor government in the 1980s. He also added that Lawrence had worked on the campaign for election of Australian Republican Movement representatives to the Australian Constitutional Convention in 1998.

Present polling data from Newspoll suggests that the ALP is beginning to regain support in the electorate, narrowly polling a higher percentage of primary support since late October, 2005, ending almost 10 months of being behind John Howard's coalition government in polling.


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Talk:US President Bush says 30,000 civilians killed in Iraq war

"The Web site Iraqbodycount.org estimates, as a conservative lower estimate of those documented to have been killed, the number of Iraqi civilians killed at a low of 27,383 and a high of 30,892, based on online media and eyewitness accounts." -- Is "conservative" here used in its political meaning or as a synonym for cautious? - Apollyon 14:00, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * It is "conservative" with a small c, so it is a synonym for cautious as you put it. Brian McNeil / talk 19:11, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

The actual question was how many "total" died. Can you place this in the acticle? "Q. Since the inception of the Iraqi war, I'd like to know the approximate total of Iraqis who have been killed. And by Iraqis I include civilians, military, police, insurgents, translators."

Restored Lancet reference as it is "the only serious scientific attempt to estimate the total number of Iraqi civilian deaths". If somebody wants to question this, perhaps they can point to another source?


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Article format/tags
Please address any issues raised in tags before putting articles back to published. Particularly items like the correct completion of the source template. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry to be brief (I am at work), but look at other articles and see how they're formatted. You are not properly citing your source.  I fixed your earlier article, try looking at the changes I made to that--Brian McNeil / talk 12:48, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * No, it is fixed now and renamed. There is a rename tag at the top of the article for logged in users.  Please look at the code for Canadian Retailers show significant growth in Internet sales and traffic and see how I filled in the  template and placed a heading before it, not on the article.  Here is the edit I did that justifies removal of the tags . Note particularly that you should not copy a source's title but create your own. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:03, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Welcome
Wikinews desperately needs more gutsy reporters; please give the project as much time as you can spare. Neutralizer 18:36, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

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Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Tjkphilosofe. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Tjkphilosofe~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:36, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

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User talk:SGBailey

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 * Have your say! Visit the Canadian federal election forum (3 edits) or the politics forum.

Notes on the template:

Experimental talk refers to the fact that Wikinews readers can now discuss certain news items directly on the Wikinews website.

Experimental talk has many advantages. It encourages people to make their first Wiki edits, even if they don't yet know how. This gains us more new writers and editors. It encourages people to return to the Wikinews website more often.

Experimental talk also has disadvantages. It increases the strain on the Wikinews web server. We don't know how comments will be moderated. Some users want comments to go directly at the bottom of article pages for maximum visibility, but this would mean that the comment sections of the parts of pages would not conform to Wikinews's NPOV policy.

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CPJ names and shames countries who jail journalists

December 14, 2005

The non-profit Committee to Protect Journalists has published its 2005 list of countries that have jailed journalists. Top of the list is China, claimed to be holding 32 of the 125 editors, writers, and photo-journalists detained during the year. This is the seventh consecutive year that China has been top of the CPJ list.

Following not so far behind China is Cuba, accused of detaining 24 journalists. In third and fourth place are the African nations of Eritrea (15 journalists detained) and Ethiopia (13 journalists detained).

Analysis of the detailed breakdown in the CPJ report reveals that they rank the United States alongside the Junta of Myanmar (Formerly known as Burma) in sixth place on the list with five detained journalists each. According to CPJ, they have excluded journalists only briefly detained such as New York Times reporter Judith Miller, instead focusing on those who are detained longer term.

The majority of charges and accusations that have been levelled against journalists are related to "anti-state" activities such as revealing state secrets, and acting against the interests of the state. The report does not include journalists who have not officially been confirmed as detained by a state.


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User talk:Leo~enwikinews

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Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Leo. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Leo~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:20, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
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User talk:LeoΩ~enwikinews

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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called LeoΩ. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name LeoΩ~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:20, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
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User talk:Pooop

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Note to admins
This user has a similar username to w:User:Poooooooooooooooooop. --Unforgettableid, 06:36, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Already blocked infinitely.--Deprifry|+T+ 08:16, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:Sulemn

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Police investigates PAF in Finland

December 14, 2005

PAF, Åland's gambling monopoly, has been challenged again by Finnish authorities because of an attempt to offer internet gambling to the Finnish mainland. In Mainland Finland, the state-owned gambling institution RAY ("Raha-automaattiyhdistys" in Finnish) holds a legal monopoly of gambling. RAY gives all profits to charity.

At the beginning of this year, PAF was sentenced for violation of gambling law. On December 14, the Interior ministry of Finland put PAF under police investigation again. Finland's interior minister Kari Rajamäki said that PAF has continued its gambling in Finland and ignored its last sentence.

PAF has filed a lawsuit at Åland's local court with the state of Finland and the Finnish interior ministry entered as defendants. According to PAF's CEO Lars Porko, the association wants to clear up once and for all who is in fact right in the dispute.

Åland is an autonomous part of Finland and as such subject to certain privileges, one of which is the existence of PAF in the first place.

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User talk:Bawolff/Sandbox/Column-test/U.S. Supreme Court: Death penalty for juveniles is unconstitutional/ext-ss

I've got Firefox here, this article isn't displayed in columns. Brian McNeil / talk 19:19, 14 December 2005 (UTC)


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User talk:193.65.112.51

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User:Cartman02au/Articles

Archives 2005-2007 here

This page chronicles articles I have started since January, 2008:

February, 2008
2 articles
 * Australian drug regulator requires warning on Zolpidem
 * Australian opposition vows to disrupt parliament on Fridays

March, 2008
4 articles
 * Australian PM subject to scrutiny over Carer and Senior's payments
 * Former Australian PM attacks parliament on apology to the Stolen Generations
 * Victorian health workers to close intensive care units next week
 * Australian Senator arrives at Parliament dressed as a beer bottle

August, 2008
2 articles
 * Oldest catholic boarding school in Australia at centre of child-sex claims
 * Australian Police alerted to child-sex claims at St Stanislaus in 1997

October, 2008
1 article
 * Police in Bathurst, NSW assaulted with "sex toy"

November, 2008
5 articles
 * Australia's Simpson Desert to be closed for summer
 * Dam in Queensland bursts, four missing
 * Australian government introduces "Fair Work" to parliament
 * Australian government concedes the federal budget may be forced into deficit
 * Sydney Opera House architect dead at 90

December, 2008
2 articles
 * Vodafone begins 3G activation, services in NSW fail
 * Australian PM announces public affairs channel

June, 2009
1 article
 * National party to trial community pre-selections at 2011 NSW election

January, 2010
1 article
 * Explosives pass security checks in Slovakia, Ireland in failed security test (didn't start but completely re-wrote)

December, 2010
1 article
 * Much of NSW interior affected by flooding

March, 2011
1 article
 * Explosion at earthquake-damaged Fukushima nuclear power plant

January 2022

 * Australian authorities probe rapid antigen test price gouging
 * American Museum of Natural History removes statue of Theodore Roosevelt (didn't start but substantially re-wrote)
 * Australian government pays A$20m for copyright to Aboriginal flag

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User:Spangineer

Admin on English Wikipedia and Wikisource, as well as Commons. See w:User:Spangineer and s:User:Spangineer.

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Siméus responds to the dismissal of Haitian justices

December 14, 2005

On Wednesday, two days after provisional prime minister Boniface Alexandre announced that five supreme court justices had been dismissed, presidential candidate Dumarsais Siméus responded critically to the decision. Siméus said that it is, "...a sad and scary day for Haiti, for the rights of our 9 million citizens and for the future of freedom, democracy and separation of powers in Haiti." Some have attributed the firing of the justices to the decision by the court to allow Siméus to be on the ballot for president. The decision has been reached twice, most recently on December 8.

Siméus characterized the firings as a violation of the separation of powers, claiming that they are motivated by a desire to obtain greater power in the government. According to Siméus, "judges of the Supreme Court and the Courts of Appeal are appointed life. Their term begins at the time they take their oath of office. The Supreme Court justices are appointed by the President from a list submitted by the Senate of three persons per court seat.

They may be removed from office only because of a legally determined abuse of authority or be suspended following an indictment leveled against them. They may not be reassigned, without their consent, even in the case of a promotion. Their service may be terminated during their term of office only in the event of a duly determined permanent physical or mental incapacity."


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Talk:Legal Sony graffiti advertising backlash

I have removed the image and "comment" associated with it from this article. An IP-only poster has suggested this was a copyrighted image but not given a URL to back up their allegation. If true the image may need removed altogether. Brian McNeil / talk 22:14, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I believe the original image used in the article is from http://www.woostercollective.com/images2/joystiq.jpg. It was uploaded to Wikinews as Image:Joystiq.jpg. Sawran 22:44, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Typo
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'for for' => 'for' Van der Hoorn (talk) 20:30, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Done — Gopher65talk 02:07, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


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User talk:Spangineer

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Talk:Uniting Church at Auburn destroyed by fire

I overheard half a telephone conversation yesterday. It was in a public place, with lots of people around and the person was talking at a high volume. I do not think they can have any expectation of privacy.

I have no reason to believe that the person was making the following up, but there is a chance the person is mistaken in their beliefs, either in part or in whole. Treat each of the following points with the caution they deserves before incorporating into a story.

In summary:

will be no more trouble at Maroubra.
 * Up to 50,000 people will be converging on a Sydney beach this coming Sat/Sun.
 * These people plan to just 'sit' there and drink.
 * "Aussies" will be coming from up and down the coast to the beach (the coast = coastal NSW relative to Sydney)
 * Bikie gangs are involved.
 * The Comanchero gang has told police that they "own" Maroubra and will look after it. The police agreed.  There
 * There is drug money being laundered in Maroubra and the owners of that money want to protect it from interference.
 * The Nomad bikie gang were involved in destroying a Tongan Church on Parramatta Road.
 * The Nomads are a 'leb' gang in that they are mostly Lebanese.

I would like my IP address and identity to remain private.

 * This information could be included in one of our articles, but it would only be something like this: There are a number of rumours circulating, including that the Nomad bikie gang was responsible for the arson attack on the Tongan Church at Auburn, and a gang called the "Comanchero gang" have pledged to protect Maroubra. - Borofkin 00:18, 15 December 2005 (UTC)


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User talk:Syd au

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User:Tuohirulla

Tuohirulla is a Finnish student of Philosophy. You can find Tuohirulla in Finnish Wikiuutiset

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User talk:Tuohirulla

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Wikipedia and Britannica about as accurate in science entries, reports Nature

December 14, 2005

An investigation performed by the scientific review, Nature, on Wikipedia and Britannica science entries, found that the two encyclopedias have similar degrees of accuracy in their content.

Nature used peer reviewing to compare Wikipedia and Britannica's coverage of science. In this study, entries were chosen from the websites of Wikipedia and Encyclopaedia Britannica on a broad range of scientific disciplines and sent to a relevant expert for peer review. Each reviewer examined the entry on a single subject from the two encyclopedias without being told which article came from which encyclopaedia. The reviewers were asked to check for errors, but were not told where the information came from.

Among 42 entries tested, the difference in accuracy was not significant: the average science entry in Wikipedia contained around four inaccuracies; Britannica, about three. In the pairs of articles reviewed, eight serious errors such as misinterpretations of important concepts were detected, four from each encyclopaedia. Reviewers also found many factual errors, omissions or misleading statements: 162 in Wikipedia and 123 in Britannica. Additionally, it was found that Wikipedia articles are 2.6 times as long as Britannica articles, meaning that there is a lower error/ommision per word ratio in Wikipedia.

The main criticism about Wikipedia was on its readability, with several reviewers commenting that the articles they read were poorly structured and confusing.

As well as comparing the two encyclopedias, Nature surveyed more than 1,000 Nature authors and found that although more than 70% had heard of Wikipedia and 17% of those consulted it on a weekly basis, less than 10% help to update it.

Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales welcomed the study. "We're hoping it will focus people's attention on the overall level of our work, which is pretty good," he told BBC News.


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User talk:82.16.79.176

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User talk:24.94.190.164

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 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
 * Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
 * Contents - the contents page.
 * Newsroom - The comunity portal
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * And of course, stories need writing!

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