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God save Pakisatn from the hands of traitors. Zardari is well known for cashing out each moment in power. And his cashing techniques are well known in Pakistan. We hope Zardari has changed since his last grasp of power and will do all but good for the country because the country is in dire need of a patriotic leader. 'GOD SAVE PAKISTAN!'


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Records reveal US Senator John Sununu had ties to convicted lobbyist

September 9, 2008 On October 24, 2001, convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff and four Alexander Strategies Group associates donated $1,000 each to the Rely on Your Beliefs Fund. This political action committee in turn donated $3,000 to Republican Representative John Sununu's primary campaign in New Hampshire on the same day, through the political action committee Team Sununu. The Greenberg Traurig lobbying company, which also employed Abramoff, gave $1000 to Team Sununu on December 16, 2002 for purposes of 'debt retirement.'

According to a report by the U.S. Senate Indian Affairs Committee, Jack Abramoff commonly told Native American tribal clients to divert their funds through the Alexander Strategies Group. Earlier that October, Jack Abramoff had met with the legislative director of the Saginaw Chippewa tribe in Michigan. Representative John Sununu, now a sitting senator from New Hampshire, had served on the Appropriations Committee that helped draft the Department of Interior funding bill. In the section on Native American water claims, land claims, and miscellaneous payments, over $6,000,000 in funding was given to Michigan fishing in the Great Lakes.

The event occurred a day before the presentation of a Department of Interior funding bill to President George W. Bush for signing, and a week after the conference report settling differences between the House and the Senate. Abramoff wrote to fellow lobbyist Michael Scanlon on October 4, 2001 via e-mail, "I had dinner tonight with Chris Petras of Sag Chip. He was salivating at the $4-5 million program I described to him (is that enough? Probably not)."

Jack Abramoff was sentenced to four years in federal prison earlier this month. He had admitted to conspiring to defraud four Native American tribes that either operated or were interested in operating casinos. The other three donors to the fund linked to Sununu were all members of the Alexander Strategy Group, including its founder, former Tom DeLay chief of staff Ed Buckham. Donor Jim Ellis had led the group Preston Gates & Ellis, which also employed Jack Abramoff. A fourth contributor was J. Thomas Smith, Jr., who had served as the Alexander Strategy Group's lawyer.

The Alexander Strategy Group was shut down in January due to ties with Jack Abramoff and former House majority leader Tom DeLay. The Rely On Your Beliefs Fund, owned by former Rep. Roy Blunt, has already donated to charity $8,500 equivalent to the amount personally contributed by Jack Abramoff in 2006. In November 2004, Gannett News Service had reported that Abromoff directed the Tigua tribe to contribute to the Rely On Your Beliefs Fund. In January 2006, John Sununu donated to charity $3000 he had received from the Saginaw Chipewa from the Daniel Webster PAC.


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Sorry if it's disruptive editing so early. What's the link between Sununu and the bill? 86.44.22.206 09:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

He's on the House Appropriations Committee, and I thought I had seen him somewhere on THOMAS as having had to do with committee votes related to the bill in July. Before I started writing this, I went around looking through and bookmarking all my source documents. This is kind of like just taking notes at first, so I'll probably be looking through this for a while. Daniel Bush (talk) 14:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Send a letter to Senator Sununu:

Dear Senator Sununu,

I am contacting you to inquire about donations from Mr. Jack Abramoff and associates of the Alexander Strategy Group. Last Thursday, Mr. Abramoff was convicted on charges related to conspiracy to commit fraud against public officials and the clients he lobbied for.

I had been looking through his campaign records, and I noticed that on October 24, he, his former boss, and three other associates from a group founded by Rep. Tom DeLay's chief of staff had each given $1000 to a political action committee, Rely On Your Beliefs Fund.

On the same day in October, records show the committee donated $3000 to Team Sununu. Abramoff, according to the final report by the U.S. Senate Indian Affairs Committee, told Native American tribal clients to direct their funds through the Alexander Strategy Group. In addition, your campaign received $1000 from Greenberg Traurig in December 2002, during which Abramoff worked for that political action committee, for purposes of debt retirement.

If your campaign isn't too busy, I'd like a response or comment on these Federal Elections Commission records. Thanks you for your service.

Sincerely, Daniel Bush

Daniel Bush (talk) 22:40, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Newsworthy?
I fail to see how this is news. This is simply a rehashing of old news and old documents and I do not see what is new here at all. This MSNBC article from 2006 has Sununu on the list of people with ties to Abramoff, there are no new revelations in this article. --SVTCobra 17:11, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

 * Actually, the article discusses when the contributions happened, how they happened (through the R.O.Y. committee), and circumstances in Congress when they happened (a funding bill in Congress with provisions relevant to Abramoff clients). In the article, Sununu does admit to having received funds and that they would be donated to charity, but there has been nothing beyond that, and the three-year-old news that Abramoff's Choktaw tribe clients donated to the New Hampshire Republican Party. This can be added, but I don't see how it would take away from the story. The documents themselves being "old" does not change anything, or else there would never be a story about leaked memos.

 * If you would like, though, I could request this story be removed and I can post it elsewhere. Daniel Bush (talk) 17:36, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

 * I appreciate your hard work, but I don't think you have uncovered anything new that wasn't already reported elsewhere years ago. The Choctaw tribe's New Hampshire donations were for example covered in this 2005 article (see about half way down). --SVTCobra 17:54, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that. The Choctaw tribe wasn't even mentioned in the article; I had just given it as an example of the only Abramoff-connected things that have ever come out in relation to Sununu aside from the $3000 donation in the MSNBC article. So the story should be left at that single sentence in that single article? Daniel Bush (talk) 17:58, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

 * Ok, I am getting a little confused here ... so I am going to slow it down a little. What, in the article you wrote, is new and not previously covered? Please be specific. --SVTCobra 18:22, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

All five Abramoff and Tom DeLay associates donated on the same day. The PAC donated on the same day. The same month it happened, there was a bill that gave funding to one of Abramoff's clients, the Saginaw Chippewa. Then, actually, if Sununu admitted that he had received the $3000 from Abramoff on his own, that would mean he knew the money had gone through the PAC for the purpose of donating to him. In Abramoff's e-mails, they speak of a $4-5 or more million dollar program, in the ballpark range of the program in the bill. Thus, there is the method and reason. Daniel Bush (talk) 18:27, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

 * Speaking of the Abramoff e-mails, "Abramoff wrote to fellow lobbyist Michael Scanlon on October 4 via e-mail": what year? Obviously the other stuff will take me a little time to reply to. --SVTCobra 18:44, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

2001, same month as the contributions. Sorry for not including that. Daniel Bush (talk) 18:51, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Also, the $3000 he donated, according to news articles from January 2006 when that MSNBC article came out, had come from different donors: the Saginaw Chipewa themselves. Thanks for your dispute; actually, this makes the article much stronger. I will add it in. Daniel Bush (talk) 19:58, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


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Church of Scientology in France accused of fraud; ordered to stand trial

September 8, 2008 According to a report by Agence France-Presse (AFP), the Church of Scientology in France will be facing a court trial, being accused of "organized" fraud. The AFP also states that seven other Scientologists will be charged with illegally prescribing prescription medication. If found guilty, Scientology could be banned in France.

According to the report, the charges come from an unnamed woman, who in 1998 purchased nearly US$30,000 worth of Scientology self-help material which allegedly included prescription drugs. After a few months passed, the woman said she felt like she was being scammed. Following several complaints from other unnamed individuals and an investigation, judge Jean-Christophe Hullin ordered at least two Scientology departments and the seven Scientologists to be put on trial for fraud and "illegally practicing as pharmacists."

The Church released a statement following the order saying that they felt "stigmatized" by the French judicial system.

"The special treatment reserved for the Church of Scientology Celebrity Center raises questions about the equality of the justice system and the presumption of innocence," the Church said in a statement to the press.

The AFP says the case is to be heard at an unknown date, and will also include an investigation by France's association for prescription drugs. Olivier Morice, a lawyer representing the unnamed woman and others in the case against the Church, say the trial could begin as early as 2009.

On September 5, an alleged rights group called the American Rights Counsel LLC attempted to have at least 4,000 anti-Scientology videos removed from the video sharing website YouTube, filing a DMCA request. Upon further investigation, Wikinews found that most videos and clips were added to YouTube by the copyright holders of the material; as DMCA requests are for the purposes of requesting removal where service providers host material that infringe on the copyright of the complainant, the merit of these requests remain questionable. It was also discovered that the alleged rights group does not exist as a physical entity which started rumors from the internet and from one Scientology critic Mark Bunker, that the Church fraudulently submitted the DMCA requests.


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User talk:Muruka

hallow out there my name is muruka n and i am akenyan from the shores of lake victoria i want to make sopme correction on apage aread about Wangari mathai the 2004 nobell peace price winner. she is listed as Dr yet she was the first kenyan woman to be a proffesor

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Comments:Silent film actress Anita Page dies at age 98

The last sound she made was "...", before a fade to black. 24.56.51.114 13:32, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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'Invitational Games for the Deaf, Taipei 2008': Review of soccer preliminaries

September 9, 2008

A number of relatively unknown entrants made the Taiwan 2008 Invitational Games for the Deaf soccer tournament an unpredictable event. Teams from Thailand, Australia, Iran (Silver Medalist in soccer at the 2005 Summer Deaflympics), Uzbekistan, Malaysia, and Japan took part.

On September 6, soccer giants Thailand and Iran defeated Malaysia and Uzbekistan in shutouts of 11-0 and 9-0 respectively. Anothai Sathiyamat, Somsak Thongdee, Nares Numphakdee of Thailand all scored hat-tricks in the game against Uzbekistan.

On the second day of competition, a decisive battle in Group A between Japan and Iran was keenly watched by Thailand, as one of the two teams would be their opponent in the finals. The game was scoreless in the first half, with conservative tactics from both teams.

Iran's Mostafa Heydaribondarabadi scored rapidly after the second half started, but Shun Igasaki of Japan scored a penalty kick after a foul by Iran in the penalty area and tied the score again. The penalty became the key of the match when Tetsuya Kurata scored 5 minutes further in, as the Iranian players became frustrated by the penalty kick. Finally, Japan won with a final score of 2-1, and advanced to the championship match on the final day.

After group standings were mostly stabilized in the third day of competition, Thailand and Japan handled their respective Group matches by replacing several substitutes with frequently lined-up players to defeat their opponents easily. They will face off on the final day for the gold medal of soccer event in the "Invitational Games for the Deaf, Taipei 2008".

Fixtures of the Final Day

 * Match-play Date: September 10, 2008.

 * 5th Place Match: Malaysia vs Uzbekistan
 * Bronze Medal Match: Iran vs Australia
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This is one of main events I mostly respected after a big strike in the first day. I witnessed the event today but hardly to take photo (a good news: my DC was recovered, and my charger and adapter were also fixed :D) because of its scale (large and wide).

The officials also confirmed that the final standing will be listed at the final day after the soccer events ends, before this, I will also do the recap for martial art events (many surprise, especially more sudden KOs) and table tennis.

This is the 3rd day briefing, tomorrow is their official resting day, information for what I mentioned will be updated tomorrow. Brock contact... 15:52, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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I did some fixes on my title and content, please make proper reviews, regards. Brock contact... 07:20, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Peer review 2
...and spelling in the title ... --SVTCobra 14:24, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

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Just a note that I sighted the publish revision because it wasn't showing up on the Main Page. I'm going to assume that's not a breach of our current publishing practice (and I daresay Calebrw would have sighted if he'd noticed). Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 12:43, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


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Wikinews at Toronto film fest party, with Diddy

September 8, 2008 Toronto residents are abuzz as the stars walk among them, during the 2008 Toronto International Film Festival. The capital of and largest city in Ontario, Canada has been playing host to the premieres of major motion pictures, up-and-coming indy films, and international films alike. Over the last few years, the festival has become one of the most popular in the world.

On September 5, Wikinews sent freelance photographer Richard Burdett to the eTalk Festival Party, held by television broadcaster CTV. Described as a celebration of Canadian and international film and filmmakers, the party was held at CTV's festival headquarters, the former CHUM-City Building. The red carpet extended into the parking lot stage area meaning celebrity guests were interviewed in the same spot where Diddy performed. DJ Samantha Ronson spun well into the night for revelers, as Lindsay Lohan hid from prying eyes inside the building.

Hosted by Ben Mulroney and Tayna Kim of CTV's eTalk program, the party was broadcast live for an hour on Startv.


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Photos by Richard Burdett. I had my friend Melanie St Clair, who's looking to help out a bit more on Wikinews over the next little bit, scout photographers for me, and Mr. Burdett was it. -- Zanimum (talk) 17:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Yeah, it's pretty slim on words, I agree. Hopefully, I can get him into other film fest events, so I can try and get in more information about the festival itself. The text I put here was basically just to fill in space. --  Zanimum (talk) 18:32, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


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US presidential candidate John McCain now leads slightly in the polls

September 9, 2008 United States presidential candidate John McCain now retains a lead over Barack Obama in several polls conducted in the past few days. Both Zogby International and Rasmussen Reports have McCain with a slight, but not statistically significant lead. The most recent Gallup tracking poll has McCain with a statistical lead of 5.0 percent. The Day to Day Politics Poll Average also has a slight, but not statistically significantly lead of 0.4% for McCain.

Obama had a 6.0 percent lead in the Day to Day Politics Poll Average after the Democratic National Convention, but now is trailing after the Republican National Convention and the announcement of Sarah Palin as McCain's running mate. This is the first time McCain has led Obama in the poll average since the two candidates emerged as their party's presumptive nominees after the primaries.

After McCain chose Palin, the current Governor of Alaska, as his vice presidential candidate and the Republican National Convention, a Gallup poll had shown that the percentage of Republicans who are enthusiastic about voting has increased by 18%. The Democrats enthusiasm has only increased by 10% since the addition of Joe Biden to the nomination ticket and after the Democratic National Convention.

The Day to Day Politics Poll Average for the past week used the Gallup Tracking poll, the Rasmussen Tracking poll, the CNN poll, USA Today/Gallup, Hotline/FD, the CBS News and the Zogby poll.


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Paralympic highlights: September 8, 2008

September 8, 2008 September 8, 2008 is the 2nd major day of the 2008 Paralympic games, the below article summaries all the highlights.

Women's S6 100 metres freestyle
Eleanor Simmonds, Great Britain's youngest athlete at the paralympic games, won the gold medal in the women's S6 100 metres freestyle, despite the fact that she is only aged 13.

Simmonds, who has achondroplasia said that "I can't believe it." She then said that "in the last 25 (metres) I knew everybody was around me, so I just got my head into it, got my last bit of energy and just went for it."

T54 women's 5000m
Six of the eleven competitors in the final of the T54 class womens's 5000m event failed to complete the course after a crash near the end of the race. As a result of this, a rerun will take place.

The medals won in the race will be returned due to this decision. The gold medal in the original race was won by the Canadian Diane Roy and the silver was taken by the British Shelly Woods.

The British competitor spoke about the crash after the race. "When the crash happened I had moved on the outside but I was at the back of the pack and was trying to get around someone," she said. "It all happened so fast in front of me that I had to move my chair over quickly and from there it was just a race to the line. "

S10 women's 100m Butterfly
The French Elodie Lorandi set a new world record in the S10 class of the women's 100m butterfly with her time of 59.80 seconds. The record was set in the first heat of event.

Women's 400m freestyle
Russian Anna Efimenko set a new world record in the S13 class of the women's 400m freestyle with her time of 4 minutes and 37.37 seconds. The record was set in the final of the event.


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broadcast report refers to things I saw on the BBC coverage of the paralympics. Anonymous101talk 17:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


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Hi, I am Cenarium form the English Wikipedia.

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Alleged 'rights group' involved with removal of anti-Scientology videos from YouTube doesn't exist; says EFF

September 9, 2008

On September 4 and 5, at least 4,000 anti-Scientology videos were removed from the video sharing website, YouTube. The videos removed were done so by a single Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) notice by an alleged 'rights group' called the American Rights Counsel LLC, which Wikinews has confirmed does not exist beyond the scope of those requests.

In an exclusive interview with Wikinews the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) acknowledged that they "don't know anything about" the Counsel and that any attempt to intentionally commit fraud by filing false DMCA requests, could lead to criminal charges.

"We don't know anything about this group. However, if these DMCA notices were sent improperly, there could be legal remedies. The particulars would depend on the particulars of the situation," Rebecca Jeschke, a spokeswoman for the EFF, told Wikinews.

The EFF first broke the story regarding the requests. YouTube received the notice all at once, in a single request. When Wikinews asked the EFF if they knew the names or links to the material in question, they stated that they do not know the names and that they have not seen the notice filed with YouTube.

According to Jeschk, the "EFF fights abuse of the DMCA. ..." but did not state where the EFF heard about the request.

"We have not seen the notices, merely heard about them [and] we don't know enough to know if the DMCA has been abused here. However, only copyright holders can issue DMCA takedowns," Jeschke said.

The EFF is investigating the incident, and it is not yet known who or what was behind the DMCA request. Some have speculated that the Counsel is a front for Scientology operated by a Dr. Oliver Schaper. In an exclusive interview with Wikinews, Schaper denied any involvement with the DMCA requests and also denied having any knowledge whatsoever of the Counsel.

"As many other people, and even members of the Church of Scientology received information about a company that removed anti-Scientology content from YouTube, shit hit the fan and members of Anonymous went on a full attack on me. I still have to this date no information about the American Rights Counsel and I have no connection, knowledge or involvement in this company which I have been informed of does not even exists," Schaper said.

Producer of XenuTV defends Schaper and does not believe he is responsible. Bunker also believes that the Counsel is a fraud and called the DMCA requests a crime.

"I next did a Google search for American Rights Counsel LLC which brought up absolutely no results so clearly this was fraud from the beginning. I had never heard of Schaper before he was accused of this. I don't know anything about him other than he contacted me and said he was not involved. I don't know who was responsible. 4000 deletions in a matter of hours is a pretty major feat. It would be worth a subpoena to find out who committed this crime," Bunker said.

Currently the EFF does not represent any of the users or groups who were affected by the mass take-down.


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The OR is based on an e-mail interview I had with the EFF. As with all e-mails, accredited reporters and trusted users can contact me to see the e-mail. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Awaiting copy for confirmation of the source. Whenever you get the chance, then I will publish. —Calebrw (talk) 02:34, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Confirmed. —Calebrw (talk) 02:40, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

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"Some have speculated that the Counsel is a front for Scientology operated by a Dr. Oliver Schaper." Needs substantiation: who? Where? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:08, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Crossed wires here, the record needs to be set straight. Before the mass takedown by American Rights Counsel, LLC, oschaper himself had taken down a load of videos on his own. I was one of the ones who was hit so I know this. He took a couple of them down under his OWN NAME, which was quite stupid, he then used a variety of company names to remove more; these include 'Media House Enterprises' (which is the parent company of his porn company 'Peephole TV'), 'The Schaper Company Inc', and 'ContentFactory America' (that one is bogus.) Oschaper was DEFINITELY responsible for those, it can be proven, and for these actions he is definitely guilty and should be punished.

THEN we were hit by the massive takedown. Oschaper was initially prime suspect because of the activities I have just recounted, HOWEVER Anonymous eventually decided that taking into account the sheer amount of videos that were taken down, and in such a short timeframe, oschaper himself could not have achieved this single-handed. We suspect that it was the work of Scientology's Office of Special Affairs (OSA), this has all of their hallmarks and they have done it before (but not on such a grand scale). The last time they did it was after an important Anonymous event, when interest in our movement would be heightened. Now there was recently a big anti-Scientology conference in Germany (which Scientology tried to 'infiltrate' by stupidly sending well-known figures Tommy Davis (OSA), and Kendrick Moxon (CoS pet lawyer)', an action which one Anonymous member called "..a bonanza of fail"; they were both denied entry), this new takedown occurred shortly after. Coincidence? Also, what is interesting is that for all the videos that were removed, the only accounts suspended were those belonging to high-profile Anonymous members like Mark Bunker. Many Anonymous had several videos removed and their accounts stayed active (I believe YouTube operate on a "three strikes and you're out" policy, well I personally had more than three videos removed and my account was not suspended). Also worthy of note is that the initials of American Rights Counsel are 'ARC', which have a special significance to Scientologists.

SO either Oschaper participated, or he simply reported his problems to the OSA and they did it without him. BUT you can bet that the OSA will hang him out to dry on this one (mainly because he started something without clearing it with higher-ups, also he made the mistake of coming onto our boards to argue with us), and for that reason I do feel a little sorry for him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ShadowVsScientology (talk • contribs) 23:19, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

big time unsourced claim
the headline claim that the EFF says this group doesn't exist is not substantiated either in the article or in this EFF post. this needs to be fixed ASAP, possibly with a correction notice. –Doldrums(talk) 12:21, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * As said above, contact me to see the e-mail. Ity has been seen by several. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 13:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * However I am at work...so I cannot send right now. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 13:47, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Due to confidentiality concerns, I deleted the e-mail from the EFF, but to the best of my recollection, the EFF representative said in the e-mail that to the best of their knowledge, the counsel doesn't exist. —Calebrw (talk) 14:11, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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title should have a comma not semi-colon for proper grammar.--216.75.93.110 19:51, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Followup

 * Interesting piece. Cirt (talk) 23:30, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting piece. Cirt (talk) 23:30, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


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I reverted two edits to this article to the last sighted version. The reason for reverting the IP edit should be pretty obvious, but for the other one I point to the archive conventions, where it says that significant edits (which I take to mean anything not minor, and the inclusion of new content is included in that) should not be made 2-3 days after the article is published. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 00:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Church of Scientology in France accused of fraud; ordered to stand trial

Got to laugh at the church's statement "The special treatment reserved for the Church of Scientology Celebrity Center raises questions about the equality of the justice system and the presumption of innocence," Shows a complete lack of knowelege of the Frence legal system which does not have a presumption of innocence, quite the opposite, the burdon of proof is on the accused.

the same homosexuals people talking about scientology I do not know but scientology does not hurt anyone —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.124.227.243 (talk) 23:55, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Church Of Scientology Statement On France Trial
Another effort by the French to ban us. It does make good media, all these accusations and charges [none proven] sensationalised by the press. One thing I notice is that the hits on my website go through the roof when these attacks on Scientology are happening, so in the end we win anyway.

Anyone who thinks one womans accusation that she was forced to spend to much 8yrs ago is going to get Scientology banned from France is living in a fantansy world. Like I said though it does make good press

Church Of Scientology Statement On France Trial http://www.rehabilitatenz.co.nz/pages/scientology-france-trial.html

Those That Oppose Scientology http://www.rehabilitatenz.co.nz/pages/scientology-opposed.html


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Comments:US presidential candidate John McCain now leads slightly in the polls

The polls are rigged with fewer than 2,000 people polled and with a questionable sampling group at that. Everyone knows where the economy is going if Republicans rig the election process again. McCain is for the environment: Palin = Big Oil Pipeline. Give me a break. McCain will fix the economy: What a bunch of bunk. He should try fixing his temper first.
 * It's not like either of them are very good candidates. Fephisto (talk) 11:36, 9 September 2008 (UTC)\
 * For the record, 2,000 people is plenty to have a small margin of error. Generally the polls are statistically sound, and reflect years of scrutiny. In addition, the article quotes a meta-poll analysis that incorporates results from seven different polls, it seems, and so is probably an even more accurate reflection of reality. I have little faith in polling, but not because of statistics -- rather, it's because people don't always tell the truth, and sometimes change their minds. -- IlyaHaykinson (talk) 17:32, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

 * I love it when McCain is winning in the polls Dems talk crap about the polls but when Obama is winning they say noting.--KDP3 (talk) 23:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No, we just know that Republicans are testing out their stuff before they rig another election..."Hey! Let's just have a poll of 1000 white people from Alabama and see what they think of Obama! That represents the nation!" I can't wait to see McCain get CRUSHED in the election because all these polls are wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.166.175.146 (talk) 02:38, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * An other case of Liberal double standards.--KDP3 (talk) 01:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Assuming a nice, random sample of size 2,000, differences larger than about 2 percentage points are significant. Of course, the number of factors that keep this from being a nice, random sample will have an effect that could quite easily invalidate that. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 03:40, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

 * Also does not matter,in 2000 Al Gore won most popular votes but in the end G.W. Bush Jr. won the election since he had most electoral votes.85.139.83.55 15:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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this is not true and you know it. FIX IT OR YOU ARE HELPING. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.91.195.116 (talk) 04:35, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


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Asif Ali Zardari sworn in as President of Pakistan

September 10, 2008

Asif Ali Zardari has been sworn in as the President of Pakistan. The 53-year-old Zardari took oath from Chief Justice Abdul Hameed Dogar in Islamabad on Tuesday.

He took the oath as the twelfth President of Pakistan. On Sept. 6, Zardari, secured 479 votes from the total number of 702 votes of the electoral college consisting of two houses of the parliament and four provincial assemblies.

Saeeduz Zaman Siddiqui, who was fielded by Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz Group, received 153 votes while Senator Mushahid Hussain, a candidate from the Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid-e-Azam Group, got 43 votes.

Zardari is the widower of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, who was assassinated Dec. 27, 2007. The election was called after former President Pervez Musharraf resigned last month.


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—Calebrw
I agree and i know that i have written this before, but today Our President took oath, and this is a breaking news, given by every newspaper agency, And if u still think that it should be deleted then, You ll definately be right, and i honour you

Many Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Azamishaque (talk • contribs) 11:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

 * Note that all of the comments on this page (that I have removed) were made by the same IP address, and almost certainly not Calebrw. The IP has been warned. I have not looked at the article content and so will not comment on whether the article is necessary. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 13:12, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
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Some youtube anonymous people also referred to two other companies, 'ContentFactory America, Inc', and "Media House Enterprises, Inc". They also calimed that the 'oschaper' account was involved in the takedown notices, and these companies, although I did not see anything saying how. I do know that accounts can be hijacked, but no one, has claimed that so far?

If the legitimacy of the claims has not been verified then why have the videos already been removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.107.249.60 (talk) 14:05, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

A single DMCA notice cannot be used for multiple videos. Each request to remove a video must be submitted via seperate DMCA notices. This means that over 4000 individual DMCA had to have been submitted by American Rights Counsel LLC, and organization with no record of its existance in the United States or otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.186.56.126 (talk) 17:55, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That may be the case on how it is supposed to be done. But we have what is called a rights group which does not exist, who files this claim. The fact that they don't exist should say a lot about the way they do things, as opposed to how they should be done. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 19:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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some scientology sympathizer really did a good job with this whole mass take down of anti scientology vids. bravo. i personally dont like scientology but i respect any one who can pull off a whopper like this. more kudo's to the people who catch this person... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.146.0.106 (talk) 06:08, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

wow! great story, wikinews —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.95.54.49 (talk) 06:51, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

This is stupid youtube is for evrey thing and evrey ne. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.54.63 (talk) 21:03, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


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Note: An updated peer review (which passed) can be seen below the failed peer review. Anonymous101talk 20:22, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

 * done a large rewrite. Anonymous101talk 19:23, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * what's a reer review? --SVTCobra 20:01, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's like a rear review, but more like peer review. It's confusing.

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TO adress the issues raised above, and to make the article refocus on a current event,, I am doing a large rewrite. Anonymous101talk 18:50, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


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Leader of North Korea, Kim Jong Il reported to have suffered 'serious' stroke

September 10, 2008 Unnamed officials from the United States have stated that the leader of North Korea, Kim Jong Il may have suffered a "serious" stroke. Officials state that the rumors of his illness began to spread Tuesday after he failed to make an appearance at the nation's 60th anniversary lent credence, an annual military parade.

"There is reason to believe Kim Jong Il has suffered a serious health setback, possibly a stroke," said an unnamed U.S. official who also added that he may have had the stroke about two weeks ago. The official also stated that his life was not in imminent danger.

Such reports have been denied by officials, including deputy leader and ceremonial head of state Kim Yong-nam, who told Kyodo News of Japan frankly: "there are no problems."

Rumors of Kim's health started to spread in August, but the official said that his failure to attend the parade is an idea of how bad his condition is. Chosun Ilbo, a newspaper in South Korea first reported in August that an unnamed diplomat in Beijing, China said Kim had collapsed on August 22. According to the BBC, a South Korean official told the Yonhap News Agency that Kim "collapsed," while a North Korean official is quoted as saying the reports are "rubbish." There has been no official confirmation of those reports by either the South or North Korean governments.

Kim has attended the last 10 parades for the nation's military or other military events.


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Talk:US - India nuclear deal sent for US Congress ratification

PS: Is proliferator a word? —Calebrw (talk) 01:40, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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The sources section should only use sources which are used in the article's creation. They should be sorted with the newest at the top. I have removed two totally unrelated sources. This in itself is a non-NPOV bias to list items such as allegations of China testing nuclear technology for Pakistan when the article has nothing to do with Pakistan. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

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I have no reason to believe the original contributor has violated copyright (unless there's too big a section copied from somewhere), so while that is skipped on the above review I think it is okay. A key progress point would be to trim back to the used sources to make checking an easier process. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:54, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

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Removed references as well as the sources indicating transfer of nuclear weapon technology by China to Pakistan and North Korea.--Tharikrish (talk) 18:05, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * The article has not come up in the main page. Why? -- Tharikrish (talk) 09:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The edits weren't sighted, it's fixed now. Anonymous101talk 09:36, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

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Without commenting on the sound of it in gelera, shouldn't it be "sent TO Congress FOR ratification" ? 68.39.174.238 23:01, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


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Thanks for the update on Kim Jong Il, I've merged the info into Leader of North Korea, Kim Jong Il reported to have suffered 'serious' stroke. -- Zanimum (talk) 14:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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Large particle accelerators to explore the frontiers of physics

September 16, 2008 The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) that started preliminary experiments on September 10, 2008 in  CERN, Geneva, and the planned  International Linear Collider (ILC) will carry out a series of experiments in the future to validate the  standard model of  particle physics. The model predicts that Higgs boson particles gives mass to all fundamental particles and explains the existence of  dark matter, or invisible matter in between galaxies.

The LHC is a 27 kilometer long circular high energy particle accelerator which took more than 20 years and USD $9 billion to build. In the next few weeks the machine will collide opposing beams of protons charged with approximately 7 TeV of energy resulting in cataclysmic conditions that will mimic the beginning of time, a re-creation of the  Big Bang.

An upgraded version of the LHC was announced, nicknamed the "super LHC". The new accelerator will perform ten times the number of collisions as the current LHC over the same time. The upgrade will feature a new injection system and enhanced detectors to cope with the increase in data packets from collisions.

The bigger International Linear Collider, nicknamed "Einstein's telescope", is planned by the International Technology Recommendation Panel (ITRP). The ILC will have a collision energy of 500 GeV and will collide electrons with particles of  antimatter, called  positrons, along a 30-40 km completely straight tunnel. The ILC's two giant "guns" pointing at each other would be able to accelerate electrons and positrons to near-light speeds before smashing them together.

"The LHC smashes protons together to discover new particles but also generates lots of debris that obscures the fine detail. The ILC would be a much cleaner machine and tell us far more about their real nature." says Brian Foster, professor of experimental physics at Oxford University and European director of the project. The host country for the ILC has not yet been chosen but it is planned to have the machine constructed by late 2010. The new machine will cost an estimated USD $7 billion to build. Physicists hope that ILC might be able to resolve some of the questions raised by Einstein's theories of relativity.


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Large earthquakes reported in Indonesia and Japan

September 11, 2008

Two powerful earthquakes occurred on Thursday morning (around midnight UTC), one in Indonesia and one in Japan. There are no initial reports of casualties or damages. Tsunami alerts were issued, later expired.

According to the United States Geological Survey (USGS), a magnitude 6.6 earthquake hit Indonesia at 09:00 local time (midnight UTC). The focus was located 98.3 km in depth The epicenter was located 120 km north of Ternate, Moluccas, and 2460 km east-northeast of Jakarta. USGS also reported Japan was hit by a magnitude 6.9 earthquake at 09:21 local time (00:21 UTC). Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA) estimated the focus at depth of 31 km, off the southeast coast of Hokkaido. Five aftershocks were felt by 17:00 with small shakes observed. The largest one was estimated as magnitude 5.4 by the USGS.

The affected countries issued tsunami warnings, which were expired later. As to Indonesia no tsunami occurred within the expected time. Tsunamis of up to 0.2 m were observed in Japan by 17:00, according to JMA.


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This is being reported on BBC News channel in the UK. 90.192.7.130 00:25, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Update: CNN also reporting this, but they are saying that no Tsunami warning has been issued. Abc30 (talk) 00:38, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

 * Oh my god it looks like two separate massive quakes, one in Indonesia, one in Japan, according to USGS. Abc30 (talk) 00:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

 * Ok Tsunami issued clarified by CNN - Japan has issued, Indonesia has NOT. Abc30 (talk) 01:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

USGS seems to have downgraded Japan down to M 5.4 (significantly less powerful). Abc30 (talk) 01:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Wait, no, 5.4 is a separate aftershock. Abc30 (talk) 01:16, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Can someone with the know-how please rename this story to mention TWO earthquakes. Abc30 (talk) 00:45, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ... Later renamed, as you see. --Dumpty-Humpty (talk) 17:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * "There is no Pacific-wide Tsunami threat because both earthquakes were deep below the earth's surface."

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 * "The warning for Japan remains in place."

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The fact that tsunami alerts for Japan were expired. (Lifted at 10:45 local time. I wonder why JMA web site doesn't state it.) The focus, aftershock and tsunami info from JMA. Two sources on the quake in Japan. The fact that the quake in Indonesia was located 120 km north of Ternate, according to the USGS. Category: Indonesia --Dumpty-Humpty (talk) 17:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Epicenter: 41°56′24.5″N, 143°37′31″E; Focus: 35 km in depth
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 * "just after midnight UTC" ... "at exactly midnight UTC" ... "00:21 UTC"
 * -->> "around midnight UTC" ... "midnight UTC" ... "00:21 UTC"

Mixtures
 * Magnitude and time: Indonesia then Japan; Aftershocks: Japan; Epicenter: Indonesia then Japan; Tsunami info : Indonesia then Japan; Focus: Indonesia then Japan
 * Indonesia: magnitude, time, focus, epicenter; Japan: magnitude, time, focus, aftershocks; Tsunami info: Indonesia then Japan
 * Indonesia: magnitude, time, focus, epicenter; Japan: magnitude, time, focus, aftershocks; Tsunami info: Indonesia then Japan

Source URL
 * http://http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g5IgwzKsStVs5sFHkA5uIawpldqAD9346JLO0
 * -->> http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g5IgwzKsStVs5sFHkA5uIawpldqAD9346JLO0

--Dumpty-Humpty (talk) 17:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Tsunami warnings or advisories issued by JMA
Japan Meteorological Agency may issue two types of tsunami alerts: Tsunami Keihō (warning) and Tsunami Chūihō (advisory). This time the latter was issued. News media often use "warning" also for Chūihō, which seems misleading. Tsunami Keihō (warnings) are issued when it's more urgent. NHK interrupts its domestic AM Radio 2 programs to convey tsunami warnings in English. --Dumpty-Humpty (talk) 17:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


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User talk:Abc30

Quakes
It is late where I am...well late for me since I have to work tomorrow, but below is some links to help you get started: This is the easiest way to start:

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:45, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
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 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
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Review
Also article must undergo a review process before they get published. The link to that is above in the welcome message, but its a new policy :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:47, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * we also had an edit conflict...apologies. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:52, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

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User talk:Drewva

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
 * Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced
 * Introduction - overview of the site
 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
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 * Style guide - how articles should look before publishing
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Talk:Fastest "zorb" ride set by New Zealanders

I believe the gentleman who set the world speed record is Keith Kolver, with a K. He's my cousin, and this article supports my opinion:

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2006-11-09-guinness-world-records-day_x.htm

 * ✅ Even the source already there had "Kolver". Thanks for the heads up. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 07:19, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Leader of North Korea, Kim Jong Il reported to have suffered 'serious' stroke

If Little Kim really did had a stroke or better yet dead, that's great but then we forget who will succeed him? Not his son who fell out of favor with him and worse case a military Junta who might want thous nukes back. The next four years are going to very hard on McCain or Obama. --KDP3 (talk) 09:59, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

To the leader of Korea:

you really dont know who your messing with you have to be out of your mind and should step down as leader if the U. S retaliates its over and you will have the world against you think twice before you press another button my friend it aint going to be pretty we wouldnt dare to defy the U.S and i think you should not test them they are born fighters and fully trained you play with those weapons so will the U.S dont mess with them they have no sense of humor neither do we step down and get rid of those nuclear weapons if you dont want a disaster in your Country innocent children an women and your elders will suffer because of your stupid ideas think before you press the button again  we fought vietnaam and we will strike again if necessary JOE

North Korea leader
I personally think having a kid as a country leader is a disaster, specially Kim Jong, he still does not think right, he still acts like a street non-professional gangster, he is more like CHOLO type. All countries should get together and help this Nation and choose someone responsible, professional and lead people like it should, have at least a bit of class, not just a street gangster. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.62.145.185 (talk • contribs) 07:21, 17 April 2016


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Talk:Election of new 7 wonders of the world: deadline approaching

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Please replace Image:Peru Machu Picchu Sunset.jpg to Image:Peru Machu Picchu Sunrise.jpg in this article. -- Cecil (talk) 14:48, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * editprotected request ✅. Sorry for the delay in dealing with the request. Anonymous101talk 20:32, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


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Norwegian airline opens new domestic destinations from Moss Airport, Rygge

September 11, 2008

The airline company Norwegian Air Shuttle is opening four new domestic destinations from Moss Airport. The new destinations are Stavanger Airport, Trondheim Airport, Bodø Airport and Tromsø Airport.

Flying commences on 30 October. Tickets for the new destinations will be put up for sale today. The Tromsø flight has a stopover at Bodø, while the two other destinations have direct flights. There will be daily flights to Stavanger and Bodø–Tromsø, and two daily flights to Trondheim. The ticket price for the new destinations starts at 359 NOK (approx. 45 EUR) for Stavanger and Trondheim, and 499 NOK (approx. 62 EUR).

Norwegian also announced that their flights from Moss to Antalya, Valencia, Athens and Istanbul will be closing for the winter season (previously they were all-year destinations).

Up until now the only domestic destination from Moss has been Bergen. Norwegian has had several foreign destinations though, including Gran Canaria, Barcelona, Berlin and Szczecin. There are also charter flights from other companies to Rhodes, Mallorca and Antalya.

Moss Airport, Rygge was previously a military airport, and is still owned by the Norwegian Armed Forces (Forsvaret). It opened for civil aviation in 2007.


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Template talk:Languageicon

Doubled brackets
I suggest changing this:
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to this:
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Which in my opinion is much more æsthetic and non-intrusive. Jon Harald Søby 18:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

editprotectedflag

Indeed, why do we need doubled brackets such as seen in and, for example? Why not just one pair of brackets? Bencherlite (talk) 23:41, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * ❌ This probably needs community consensus, and not an editprotected request. — μ 12:11, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd say remove the double brackets. It makes the page look cluttered. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:24, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed, so done. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:15, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Es=Español
According to the link in the page, the language code for Esperanto is "eo", not "es". Revoluc (talk) 10:53, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅, a few years late. — μ 12:10, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

w
I'm going to, carefully, convert this to use w. It'll take three parameters:  language code, language name, and language target. The language code actually isn't used, afaics, and it still won't be used, but as well it's there for possible future use. As it has been up till now, the second parameter was usually the complete markup for a wikilink, like ; in the new version, you'll specify  as the second parameter and  as the third parameter, and the template will be responsible for piecing together the wikilink from those parts.

As a matter of possible procedural interest: I'm going to do this in two steps, because the new version I eventually want to end up with will be incompatible with the old version. In the first step, I'll deploy a temporary version of the template than does the old thing if given two parameters, and the new thing if given three. The temporary version will also put the transcluding page into one of two temporary hidden categories, depending on whether the transclusion uses two parameters or three. Using those hidden categories to find all the uses, I'll convert them all to use three parameters. And then I'll replace the temporary version of the template with a completed version that uses w even with two parameters, and doesn't bother with the hidden categories. --Pi zero (talk) 14:54, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Now that I'm well into this, I don't think I should do the second step as planned. It may be useful to be able to generate an unlinked icon at need, and there's no difficulty building the three-parameter form into the specific language templates.  --Pi zero (talk) 14:05, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅, including the template documentation. The hidden categories seem harmless enough, so I'm leaving them in place:
 * Category:Pages using three-parameter languageicon
 * Category:Pages using two-parameter languageicon
 * --Pi zero (talk) 15:09, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

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Talk:Large particle accelerators to explore the frontiers of physics

Not ready yet, I don't think...
This article is full of grammatical and stylistic errors. What on Earth is making the Earth "gooey"? "portend" does not appear to be the right word to be used. And can I see who / what / where calls it a "God Machine"? -- Sken   my talk 18:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Particle
The spelling mistake portends many other issues with this. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:06, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Goo, God Machine and what all that portend
God machine: A term in circulation for the last 20 years or more:

 * The God machine countdown
 * Is the "God Machine" green?
 * The God machine

Goo: This might do the trick:
 * "...an unpleasant hypothetical particle called a strangelet that would turn the Earth into a lump of goo.
 * "Or it could spit out something called a "strangelet" that would convert our planet to a shrunken dense dead lump of something called "strange matter.""

If it portend (to indicate in advance; to foreshadow or presage, as an omen does: The street incident may portend a general uprising.) ignorance, excuse me. --Tharikrish (talk) 03:22, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Please suggest a title that does not suggest that something that happens daily in the upper atmosphere has anything to do with mythical creators or the highly improbable end of the world. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

"apocalyptic theories debunked" - Not.
The "apocalyptic theories" were based on the collision of particles in the LHC. They've only sent particles around one direction at a time - no collisions. InfoWeek said it would be months before they did. Even pop culture has made commentary about how wrong the news outlets are. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 05:41, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. I watched the thing live on the website. It was not all that exciting in terms of news...but if the media would read the proper pages and press kits, they would know this was just a test. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:09, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * We can wait for months if you like, for the apocalypse that will never be. News outlets have reported the so called concerns aired initially by some researchers. And this "test" is a precursor to all the "tests" that will follow. May be this news, that made headlines world over, is not as exciting as something like "Norwegian airline opens new domestic destinations ..."--Tharikrish (talk) 06:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Just because it made news all over the world, does not make it any more "right". The story is still wrong - did no colliding which was supposed to end the world.  If you want to write something in a month or two when they start colliding properly - about the fact that the world didn't end - I'll support you 100%.  And the norwegian airline article may not have been exciting, but at least it was correct. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 07:16, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * In a couple of months the LHC will start its real work. The media frenzy will have subsided and Wikinews could (should?) be one of the few places where an article like First proton stream collision in LHC nets CERN 400Gb of new data could be written. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The fact that collusion has not happened, as yet, is mentioned in the article. There is nothing factually incorrect in the article. The "end-of-the-world" hypotheses need no debunking and in this respect the title may be misleading, but in my opinion can be retained to highlight how unscientific notions and opinions create obstacles for normal scientific work. If you still feel that the patently unscientific opinions have to be proved true or otherwise, before being reported in Wikinews, fine. But it is a fact that this event is a milestone in the history of science.--Tharikrish (talk) 08:09, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you need to re-read the links from the welcome message if you believe opinion that is not attributed to a known source has any place in a Wikinews article. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No opinions without source are included in the story. Please point it out specifically if I am wrong. The title is factually and scientifically correct. What is not correct is the title of this section "apocalyptic theories debunked - Not." Usage of "God particle" and "God Machine" have a long history in scientific reporting.--Tharikrish (talk) 10:01, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Drivel
CERN have made available a vast collection of information about the planned experiments and their schedule. Anyone who has taken enough of an interest in science to glance through Steven Hawking's popular works would know the black hole hogwash has been concocted by cretins with a tenuous grip on reality, let alone scientific theory. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:35, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Title
Since new/recently registered users cannot rename articles (something I'm not 100% sure is right for Wikinews) please list suggested alternative titles below. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:39, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

 * Have to agree with Brian above about the science it's self but I have to disagree with the title, though they are extreme fringe theories they haven't been debunked, and who came up with calling it the God machine???? There are any number of other titles that could be used, equally glamourous but factually correct.
 * Worlds largest particle accelerator has a successful start
 * 9 billion dollar science project gets underway in Geneva
 * Physicist complete initial start up of accelerator to look for the building blocks of the universe
 * Experiment to recreate conditions just after the big bang has a successful start
 * All of them are better than the current title in my opinion. Khukri (talk) 09:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the suggestions! Let's wait and see if we can get a few more opinions and if anyone has any particular preference out of these. With the slow start to getting this up to scratch there's a need to bring in some more current information so it can be bumped up to today's date. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If I can be of any help, please don't hesitate to ask. The article itself is "OK" but could certainly use some history behind the experiment and what it's goal are wouldn't go amiss. I added the the timeline to the en wiki here hope it helps. Cheers Khukri (talk) 09:18, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Good to see someone from WP pick up on my appeal, Wikinews only has about 20-30 active contributors so feel free to dive in and copyedit the article. Without doing any serious research I would imagine that current work with the LHC is baseline testing and repeats of prior experiments to test out the detectors and other equipment. A big hint on how to approach the Wikinews coverage of something like this is to describe one of out articles as a "snapshot" of what is known at any one point in time. Anyway, with the low contributor count here is may not be until the U.S. wakes up that we can get further input on a more appropriate title. In the interim feel free to edit. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * "and who came up with calling it the God machine????" - The Guardian and some other sources calls it so. A CERN committee itself has debunked the apocalyptic claims. Do Wikinews need further hard evidence for this?--Tharikrish (talk) 10:16, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Just because they don't know their arse from their elbow with respect scientific matters, doesn't mean we/you need to follow it. It's a headline to attract attention nothing more nothing less.
 * CERN's LSAG report was the initial report to examine the safety issue, then the fringe theorists came in and CERN/or other scientific bodies have each time stepped in to examine the thoeries. So far all have been shown either to be based on poor science, erroneous data, or in one case a basic misunderstanding of the theory of relativity. But how the headline reads is that the start up of the machine is what debunked the "fundies" which is incorrect. So your choice you can follow the National Enquirer/The Sun style headline or have one that is factually correct. cheers Khukri (talk) 10:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * the problem with the title is that it suggests a causal link between between two statements (lhc started successfully & doomsday claims debunked) that are both true but in fact not correlated. The LHC has started successfully, true. The crackpots have been debunked by the physics community (not just CERN), true. But the second is old news (the LSAG report is from the end of June, not from "Friday") and, as was pointed out above, until there are indeed high-energy collisions at the LHC it is pointless to say . I would just drop the second half of the title, and perhaps expand a bit the part on the debunking by adding references to the CERN documents on the safety of the LHC. Concerning God machine, I find it godawful but it's a matter of taste. Cheers Ptrslv72 (talk) 10:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

To-do
There are a couple of things needed here, this is a lot closer to publication than when I first looked at it. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:30, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) "some scientists" is weasel words, who are they and do they have credible credentials?
 * 2) "gooey" is what macaroons are, perhaps an oversimplification of what casual research suggests is a wildly speculative theory.
 * 3) Title. There are some significantly more respectable suggestions in one of the above sections.
 * 4) God particle/God machine. This has likely been a major sticking point for many of Wikinews' critics.
 * 5) Update so date can be bumped. What are the latest tests/developments? Trivia like how much data is being processed by LHC@home may be of interest.
 * 6) Neutral review. Someone who has not been heavily involved in the discussion or creation of the article should do a review with a view to getting this published.
 * To append to this, Wikinews generally strives to be serious in science and technology coverage. Personally, I would expect an article on the LHC to be one that someone would need a good grade in a GCSE (UK qualification) to understand most of. Wikinews' small audience is fairly technically savvy; I'd like to think that for most readers something like "gooey" is going to raise a red flag because you just need to see TV footage of a volcanic eruption to know that beneath the crust the planet already is pretty "gooey".
 * I have asked on the Wikipedia LHC page for input which is the source for the above title suggestions. There is a general reluctance on WP to come and contribute here, over on WP they're struggling not to be overly technical, here I think we're at the opposite extreme and trying to cater to the Alexa toolbar audience we don't have. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

 * 1) Some scientists: consists of Otto Rossler a biochemist who was quoted by the head of the Albert-Einstein institute as having a basic misunderstanding of the theory of relativity, and his work would fail to pass PRD review. Reiner Plaga, an astrophysicist who is not currently working in physics who examined what he saw as a hole in the LSAG report. Giddings and Mangano quickly released an amendment on the ArXiv which covered this minor issue. The last is the infamous stalking Walter Wagner, who has a thing for high energy physics and doomsday scenarios. A jack of all trades master of none, lawyer, nuclear safety officer, botanist not really a scientist but made headlines by failing to bring a similar lawsuit against the RHIC at brookhaven and has done the same for the LHC on the same grounds. Has been debunked time and time again, through out the web, blogs, forums, even the American Physical Society (APS) on behalf of some 40,000 physicists/members released a statement saying there is nothing to be worried about. There is not a single physicist who has had their work reviewed backing the fears behind the LHC. Khukri (talk) 10:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Dreadful article
"Someone over on Wikinews has started a pretty dreadful article on the LHC switch-on." "that was not all that exciting in terms of news." Help came from WP with the suggestion that "article itself is "OK" but could certainly use some history behind the experiment and what it's goal....". If you don't intend to delete this article, please copy the WP article and paste it here.--Tharikrish (talk) 18:50, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I consider the over emphasis of fringe and crackpot stuff to be "dreadful", this simply can't be published with the current title and you have dodged all involvement in picking a more reasonable and rational title. --18:57, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The "fringe and crackpot" stuff were all facts/news related with the event. People even went to court to stall the startup. All facts related to the event were reported, including the fringe ones. You said being a neophyte I am not supposed to change the title (which I did it once to get "partical" out of the way, sorry for that). There is nothing that suggests anything irrational in the present title. God machine seems to be a surprising to many, including those from WP. But the term is found in many popular articles / books on the subject. The title may be awful for some, but it should attract attention of the readers, without sacrificing objectivity. That ought to be the approach unless you want Wikinews to be a abridged edition of WP. In that case the right title should be "Large Hadron Collider"--Tharikrish (talk) 19:23, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * And I think that's where the difference lies, most coming over from WP are involved in the factual, if you don't want anyone elses point of view/input or you want the sensationalist then you don't need us. All the best. Khukri (talk) 20:50, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

 * I give up! The Earth is flat and circular, it is carried on the backs of elephants, and below that it is turtles all the way down! --Brian McNeil / talk 22:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * P.S. I want my English grandma back, you've been abusing her horribly. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:27, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Issues resolved
--Tharikrish (talk) 09:27, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Weasel words: "some scientists" removed.
 * 2) Speculative goo making  Strangelet removed.
 * 3) Title changed to something respectable.
 * 4) References to God particle (The God Particle: If the Universe Is the Answer, What Is the Question?, by Leon Lederman, Dick Teresi, hardcover ISBN 0-395-55849-2, paperback ISBN 0-385-31211-3, Houghton Mifflin Co; (January 1993) removed. Similarly "God machine" removed.
 * 5) Update - Some hackers are active, but being a non-scientific matter, overlooked. Knowing the mind of God? That's just crazy talk. Correct.
 * 6) Neutral review - Requested.
 * 7) Grandma's English - Through check and appropriate corrections requested.

Updates
The article has been updated and renamed to reflect the changes.--Tharikrish (talk) 16:40, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Science and Technology
The article is not listed anywhere in Science and Technology page. This needs a fix, please.--Tharikrish (talk) 02:29, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


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User:Daniel Bush/casualnotes

So I dove back into the FEC database and got back to digging.

On June 16, 2003, Jack Abramoff gave $2,500 to the Keep Our Mission (formerly Keep Our Majority) PAC, plus Greenberg Traurig director Todd Boulanger, an indicted Greenberg Traurig employee (Kevin A. Ring), and another employee second gave $500 each. Two more directors, former Bob Ney chief of staff Neil Volz and Shawn Vasell, gave $1000 each. A fifth employee gave $250, making for a $6,250 total from Greenberg Traurig. The Mississippi Choctaw Indian Band gave $15,000 to the PAC. $14,250 was also given to this PAC on this date by miscellaneous lobbyists, most likely unrelated.

The first contribution made by the PAC afterward was $10,000 was given to Mike Ferguson (NJ-7) 11 days later; that month he had resolved a dispute with the FEC over his parents donating $525,000 to his campaign when the maximum amount a candidate can receive per person is $25,000. On June 3, according to a House Oversight Committee report, the Mississippi Choctaw tribe bill was about $10,000.

He received $2000 more from members of the Alexander Strategy Group on June 23, 2003, which also represent the Mississippi Choctaw tribe. His parents donated on the same day as those lobbyists, which makes me suspect it was arranged.

On June 3, Dennis Hastert held a fund raiser at Jack Abramoff's restaurant, called "Signatures," for the Keep Our Majority PAC. It was estimated that over $21,500 was given, which matches up exactly with the amount contributed on June 16. Strangely, though, the Mississippi Choctaw contribution, or rather all of them, are missing from the database in searchable format. I happened to find them by accident on the same image as another contribution.

Next, I wanted to see what legislation was going through Congress in June 2003. Well, wouldn't you know it, a week after the June 3 fund raiser, there was a bill on Internet gambling prohibition. Before the final vote, there was a vote on a provision that would have exempted the state-licensed businesses from the bill.

Tom DeLay had been trying to pass legislation that was favorable to Abramoff's clients that month, and the Choctaw tribe just happened to be state licensed. Ferguson voted for the bill, but against the amendment removing the state license exemption. It was only after Jack Abramoff's corruption was well known that he voted to ban financial institutions from allowing Internet gambling via credit card, in 2006.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll254.xml http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll255.xml http://www.nrsc.org/nrscwebimages/2008citations/marylandrieu/20051117_AssociatedPress.pdf http://oversight.house.gov/abramoff/docs/abramoff.pdf

These links provided information on the Signatures fund raiser. The FEC documents are saved on my hard drive, since the links appear to be temporary, and the Choctaw contributions not being in search format makes me feel the sanctity of the database to cleansing is suspect.

I'm preparing for Todd A. Boulanger interview; these questions can be recycled for other fundraiser attendees.

Mr. Boulanger, do you remember if you were in attendence at the Dennis Hastert fund raiser at

the restaurant Signatures on June 3, 2003?

{follow-up:

Do you remember if any of your former colleagues at Greenberg Traurig were in attendence? }

Do you remember if members of the Mississippi Choctaw Indian Band were there?

{if no to either:

I noticed that a Republican Senate report says that at least $21,500 was raised at Signatures.

This matches the report totals for June 16, 2003 of Dennis Hastert's Keep Our Majority Fund.

Did they wait to donate until that time, or was the reported date of the donations moved eleven

days later than it really had been, and if so, why?)

Was Internet gambling mentioned at the fund raiser?

{if yes, was the bill to prohibit Internet gambling in the House of Representatives discussed?

Did anyone mention the provision about exemptions for state-licensed businesses? Who?)

Was Mike Ferguson mentioned at the fund raiser?

Was the Department of the Interior or offshore oil drilling?

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Controversy spreads over Libertarian U.S. presidential nominee Bob Barr

September 12, 2008 U.S. presidential nominee and former  is the subject of controversy today after his last minute refusal to attend former  presidential hopeful 's third party unity conference at the  in  on Wednesday.

Barr instead decided to hold a press conference of his own two hours after Paul's at the same location. "I'm not interested in third parties getting the most possible votes," he told reporters. "I'm interested in Bob Barr as the nominee for the Libertarian Party getting the most possible votes."

Several of Barr's supporters were furious, some even going so far as to retract their endorsements of him. Bloggers quickly picked up on the story and by Thursday evening there was an Internet frenzy.

"Bob Barr's presidential campaign is effectively over," Libertarian Party co-founder said. "His no-show at Ron Paul's...news conference — followed by an insulting suggestion that Ron should join Barr on the LP ticket in the VP slot — demonstrated just how out-of-touch the Barr campaign is, and how poor Barr's vote total is likely to be."

A number of former Barr supporters have since rallied around presidential nominee, who has been climbing in the polls over the past few months. Others have joined independent in his presidential campaign.


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Hello, this is my user page. Stay tuned for more information.

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Talk:Controversy spreads over Libertarian U.S. presidential nominee Bob Barr

Stubgate refs?
Also, type "Oprah Snubgate" into Google, and you get some recent results too. Clarify this is not the same thing? Hope this helps, —Calebrw (talk) 03:33, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * independentpoliticalreport.com coverage
 * independentpoliticalreport.com article — This one shows up in Google News, does that make it reliable, I don't know, but it's better than nothing.

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 * I've made some edits to the article. It should be okay now. --WNewsReporter (talk) 11:08, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


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Wow... can't say I listen to Howard Stern, but this is ridiculous.


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