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Wikinews talk:Commentary pages on news events

Pre-proposal discussion
(context: Edbrown05 requested a page where people can comment on the news so the talk page can be reserved for discussions about the article. MessedRocker created this page as "Wikinews:Rant about articles, and posted a short introduction here about the purpose of this page. The introduction has since been removed, and the following comment is based on that introduction and a prior conversation.)

No, it's not about that (rant), it is about adding a tab to a news story so people can help improve and article and also talk about it. -Edbrown05 02:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * If you have the knowledge to add a "Comment" tab to the top of a news story then do it. Otherwise, don't waste my time. -Edbrown05 02:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That would require a modification to the interface -- I will look into it. Until then, you can use this page (or use the talk page like I have). ★ MESSED  ROCKER ★  03:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm one ... i wanted to say "hard-assed" some thing or other... but I do believe the interface should support comments, and after that here I go acting again like the interface should support comments. Sorry, I amaze myself with some f the stupid stuff I say. -Edbrown05 03:31, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Would it be okay if the tab were to be named "editorial," because "comment" may be confused with "discussion"? ★ MESSED  ROCKER ★  11:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Good idea. It wouldn't be NPOV though, so we may have to tweak policy to exclude editorials from being neutral. PVJ(Talk)(Newpages) 12:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I think we know that much. The editorial tab would go to Wikinews:Editorial/pagetitle, and neutrality rules don't apply to the project space. ★ MESSED  ROCKER ★  20:50, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * This sounds like a great idea. I Support. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  20:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, instead of it being a subpage, assuming this idea gets support, I'm going to petition the Wikimedia tech crew to install an Editorial namespace and add a third editorial tab to the interface instead, rather than there be links to "Wikinews:Editorial/pagename" that would have to be manually moved along with the articles, and also if there were a tab that would be some sorta JavaScript hack. If this happens, then we can set down some rules for the Editorial namespace. ★ MESSED ROCKER ★  21:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Make that: a Commentary namespace with a "post your opinion" tab. ★ MESSED  ROCKER ★  21:49, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The naming convention of the "Tab" could mean a lot. I now only realized you took off with this. 'Editorial' rings bad, 'Comment' rings right better... I don't know. People should be able to comment on the news. -Edbrown05 09:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Discussion about proposal
I have now posted a proposal. How does this sound? ★ MESSED ROCKER ★  23:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Good luck with it. I support this proposal (and it in its other various incarnations like template:xc user:Bawolff/idea ..., except for the link to /./digg etc version as I think thats kinda useless)
 * as it would definitly increase story output and reasdership in my opinion. (people don't like reading about the news, they like whining about it). However I've seen this proposal (versions of it) shot down many times, and I honestly don't hold much hope. But good luck. user:Bawolff 09:59, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

 * strongly oppose More adolescent and teenage rant is unnecessary. Actually there is already on all, including this, wiki companies talk about the topic not change of content of the article. 149.9.0.27

"strongly support adolescent and teenage rants, the next up news writers. -Edbrown05 08:38, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

adolescent and teenage rants are stupid like Ann Coulter, making money with any idiotic rant. 81.169.183.71
 * Only problem is how to decide when a rant becomes too stupid. We don't want to become /. (or do we, /. 's fairly popular). Bawolff ☺☻ 08:47, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Many news websites I have come across have a comments section. Readers will appreciate having a forum to voice their opinions on. PVJ(Talk)(Newpages) 11:53, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the idea of commentary from our readers is great, but at the same time it may be difficult to keep WN:NPOV - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 02:15, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

i have big doubts about this idea. while i absolutely support having a place for readers to comment on the article (how its written, how to improve it and so), i don't like the idea of an area of Wikinews dedicated to readers comments on the subject of the article.
 * i presume what is acceptable as comment will be much more liberally defined than what is ok for article and discussion pages (o/w why have a separate page at all?). exactly how relaxed? we don't have much of a guideline on what's acceptable in comments (we've had big problems deciding what comment falls foul of civility, is inflammatory ...etc bfor). Who's going to trawl this commentary space and keep it clean? especially since we're so short of RC watchers that main page vandalism stays on for many minutes.
 * yes, other news sites have a place for comment, but its a sandboxed, moderated area. Wikinews is not like that. I, for one, think there're better things to do on Wikinews than referee a "few-holds-barred" pov fight on the comments page. the big problem for Wikinews will be that any such fight is very likely to spill over into the article as well.
 * there are any number of other places better suited for discussion than Wikinews mainspace. the standard talk page (within limits) and user talk pages here, lots of places elsewhere on the web. if someone has a itch for a big-time discussion about an article's subject, why not do it on user pages or offsite and put a link on the talk page? — Doldrums(talk) 06:13, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * These are all good problems with it, and time will tell if it does become a management nightmare. I thinks comments would have to be about the topic of an article, but not about making the article better. However I think it would be very benificial. By sandboxed structed area, do you mean something like /idea|this? Bawolff ☺☻ 06:21, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * sandboxed in the sense that on other news sites, readers can post their comments, but cannot change others' comments or the article itself. here, we'll have to manually check such things. (note current six-week backlog on archiving) — Doldrums(talk) 06:29, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * yes that is true (the only possible solution I see, is to somehow make section=new work on protected pages) . Bawolff ☺☻ 06:34, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

P.S. i recently felt bold and made this happen. do a hard refresh (ctrl+r in most browsers). Bawolff ☺☻ 06:21, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Implemntation
When do we decide to do it (or not do it). It'd take me about one minute to implement it (but that would have to use talk:foo_article/discussion or use a pseudo-namespace. we'd have to ask for a real ns which we proablly should). Bawolff ☺☻ 08:52, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Just want to make sure, the current proposal has no real structure to it. Basiclly a user presses a button, and it goes toan add a new section page. No fancy templating? Bawolff ☺☻ 22:16, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The Wikinews way seems to be bare bones on the facts and fancy free reporting. Press the buttons Bawolff. Serious opposition seems centered on acceptance. -Edbrown05 10:26, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

can we direct the comments tab link to Commentary pages on news events/Article-name or Commentary pages on news events ? this would make it easier to relocate or kill this project later on, i think. also "discuss", "comment", "view comment" buttons look a tad redundant. — Doldrums(talk) 06:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. its all in Mediawiki:monobook.js (near bottom). As for kiling the project later, if we remove the tabs, no one is going to ever find it, no matter where its located. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:24, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

It won't be killed, the problem lies in the "Discussion" tab which needs to be be renamed to allow for the "Comment" tab. The two tabs would be confusing. -Edbrown05 06:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Got any suggestions fot the new name? - I think its Mediawiki:nstab-talk or something. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * i'd suggest we retain the talk page name as "Discussion", its well established, sticks to mediawiki convention. — Doldrums(talk) 06:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Make the talk page mainly just for discussion about the article and ways it can be improved and comments for blog type comments. I would support a new space for comments, it would help those if they thought it was POV as a new space would be avoidable? --Nzgabriel | Talk 09:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * yes, thats the idea. If someone really hates it they can disable the tabs. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:20, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Post-implementation comments
Well I for one totally disagree with this evolution. Like we don't already have enough POV work, now there's gonna be every John Doe giving his €0.02 on the article. It's very un-wiki, but it's certainly a trend in news sites... --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:41, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Why does the Dan100 slew of edits on January 5 not include on the users history page the comment by the user that the RRS feed now has 30,000 subscribers. The subscriber base now exceeds Wikinews registered user base. That means when I load my home page and look at the headlines, why does somehow AP or Reuters seem less important.

 * But more important than that, what happened to the history of Dan's edits. If the wiki software goes f__ked up, then nothing will matter. -Edbrown05 02:41, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about?? User:Bawolff 02:48, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't like the implementation very much -- I wanted it to be more like a third tab after "article" and "discussion"... ★ MESSED ROCKER ★  02:45, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * That proablly would look better. (I'll try and figure out how to change it soon) User:Bawolff 02:48, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Definetly. At the moment it looks like someone forgot to add and in a rush quickly added it. And does it work with resolutions of 800 x 600? --Nzgabriel | Talk 03:01, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Good question. for an ordinary user proablly yes. For an admin no (you'd have to scroll right). 24.65.52.20 03:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Technical difficulties
There is an error: if you click to view the comments, you cannot click on the article tab to go back, (example). And I would like it if the comments tab was in red text until a comment was added like the discussion tab link. And the add comments tab, etc should be available when view other pages, e.g. checking the history, discussion page, etc. --Nzgabriel | Talk 03:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well to do the red thing, you'd need a lot of fancy javascript (beyond my skill level) (or actually convince some dev that they should make a new tab properly without javascript). Discussion tab is eassy to change. History I'd have to look into. As for article, leading back to article, that should be fixable. looking into when I have more time (tommorow) User:bawolff 03:24, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool, errors are common in first release phases. --Nzgabriel | Talk 03:53, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I can't currently see the comments tabs. --Nzgabriel | Talk 06:45, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

 * strongly oppose idiotic idea. 202.71.100.89

Not This again
This had been bought up many times in the past, and every other time its been firmly rejected, this is why the POV wikia as set up, to allow comments like this off site. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 22:19, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I personally think that having an external sites for comments (pov.wika, wiki-(de)bate, or even linking to /. digg/whatever) is a bad idea, because if they wanted to discuss on thoose sites, they would not be here. Bawolff -)(-: 23:12, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I feel that this is a bad idea as it goes against wikinews NPOV, and not just our local policy - the policy that was imposed by the WMF on us, when wikinews was set up 2 years ago Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 23:46, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * This is not against policy. The WikiMediaFoundation policy, if I understand it correctly, calls for the creation and publication of articles that are reported with a neutral point of view. The foundation cannot, and would not, impose limitations on a person's expression of opinion. -Edbrown05 05:30, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well actually, they can do whatever they want. My understanding was it only applied to the main product of the wiki. (Normal talk pages arn't all that neutral either). On a side note other projects host non-neutral media - Commons, Wikisource is a collection of non-neutral media essentially, but its presented in a neutral way is how I always thought it followed that policy. (Previous unsigned comment by Bawolff).
 * Okay, grant you that Bawolff that WMF can do what it wants, but why would it want to exclude participation? If the premise of the building blocks of this site will only accomodate article preparation and creation, and then lacks a venue to acommodate reader reaction, then it is missing perhaps half or more of possible participation. How could a site that is "connected" want to miss connectivity? -Edbrown05 06:08, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * This above comment goes of mine under the assumption that there are more readers than there are writers at Wikinews. I personally believe the circumstance of more readers than writers will grow. -Edbrown05 06:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * WMF couldn't possibly be trying to structure Wikinews to force only positive  contributions to the site could it? That would be something along the lines of engineering for a widget. So then when a gadget comes along the poor sad thing finds it has no place for it and wanders away. -Edbrown05 06:39, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * An appreciation of how hard it is for a news reporter to press the "Save" button is something I suspect is 90% unknown even by regulars here. -Edbrown05 06:59, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe that the opinions/comments will be able to help combat POV, filtering it out of the article because the editors will be able to voice their opinions in the appropriate page. --Nzgabriel | Talk 07:15, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Let's just say I completely against this proposal Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 09:49, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

fix needed?
Talk:Talk:Channel Seven loses control of audio/Comments. — Doldrums(talk) 15:42, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Already, if this comment referenced by Doldrums above has any connection to reality, the coments tab can show it helps by keeping writers honest.
 * Plus I am wondering why Channel Seven loses control of audio is published but doesn't appear on the Main Page. I can only imagine the headache Bawolff has bitten off with this. Maybe, I don't know, after this idea is fleshed out maybe some taking this to a higher Dev for help (?). -Edbrown05 05:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly new to this whole javascript thing. It proablly would be better if it was implemented as a real tab by the dev's, but it seems to me they don't move too fast in making non-critical things (just impressions I've got from reading various pages). However he comment that Doldrums mentioned along with every other one made so far should really be on the normal talk page. Bawolff -)(-: 06:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * note I've fixed the paticulur issue Doldrums mantioned, however there are a couple more to go.

 * When viewing the tab page, The article/normal talk tab should go to their respective page, and the comment should go to the current page.
 * Moving pages can cause problems. Bawolff -)(-: 06:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * When I click on 'view comments', the single comment linked to above by Doldrums appears. The 'article' tab appears in red, and the tabs across the top of the page appear as: article| discussion | edit this page | add comment | history | rename | watch | comment on article | view comments . When I click to 'comment on article' the page opens fine, but then when I click to 'view comments' what was there disappeared. The click stream is wrong :) -Edbrown05 07:44, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

dead?
i take it this idea has been dropped? have removed the note about moving comment pages from MediaWiki:Movepagetext and MediaWiki:Pagemovedtext. is this ok? are there other things to do?–Doldrums(talk) 07:28, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's dead. Nobody's been using 'em.  Thunderhead  ►  07:38, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Mediawiki:Monobook.js needs to be fixed too, methinks. –Doldrums(talk) 07:48, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Hold on, it's live now though, isn't it? Must say I like them. Dan100 (Talk) 22:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it got re-added, but there was an error in the code that prevented it from working. See history of mediawiki:monobook.js. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I changed it to use new sections for new comments, if there is already comments. The good is that others won't interfere and overwrite other comments. The bad is they won't see them initially, and the editintro doesn't work (if there is already comments. f there isn't its okay) but the editintro never worked whenever the page is already created. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

 * I strongly opppose this idea. If you want to comment on the news, put it on your blog and link to the wikinews page. --Pixelface 22:19, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

 * The warning box above the edit screen for Comments: pages has an incorrect link; the invitation to "post about factual errors on the article's regular talk page" links not to Talk:{PAGENAME} but to Comments_talk:{PAGENAME} --66.102.80.212 01:30, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Successful?
Now we seem to have pretty much everyone on board with haveyoursay, could do with some polishing up with a little javascript to make the Comments: tab a 3rd tab consistently with other tabs back to article and talk.

My opinion is the principle is working, and not creating too many headaches. What do those who were nay-sayers above say now? --Brian McNeil / talk 15:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


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New Zealand holiday road toll at 26-year low

January 3, 2007

The New Zealand Christmas holiday road toll has been the lowest it has ever been with nine deaths in 26-years, 1981.

The annual road toll is also the lowest it has ever been since 1963, with 387 deaths for the whole of 2006.

The Christmas holiday period starts at 4:00 p.m. (UTC+13) on Christmas Eve and runs until 6:00 a.m. January 3, 2007.

John McLelland, national road policing inspector, said: "I'd like to think that people are taking more care when travelling and hopefully with the advertising...people are more aware of the consequences of poor decision making if they are involved in a crash." Mr McLelland is starting to think that drivers are concentrating more but still believes that drivers are speeding, not wearing compulsory seat-belts and drinking and driving. He is also urging drivers to take care of both themselves and the other road users. "...we need to think about our driving and how we go about it on the road."

Mr McLelland, said: "Drivers aged 25 to 60 made up the majority of road crash fatalities. And that's also probably got something to do with the aging population as well."

Even though the holiday period is over, Mr McLelland is still asking drivers to be cautious as many people will be returning home from their holidays.

In 2006 the holiday road toll was 22, and in 2005 the toll was at 11.

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Insurgents now control Iraqi city

January 3, 2007

The city of Baqubah, just northeast of Baghdad, seems to have collapsed under insurgent control. Government offices and schools are closed. Assassinations take life and power from mayors, tribal chiefs and policemen. Residents fear to leave their homes.

The majority Sunni-Muslim city was once full of promise for Americans. Six months ago, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq, was killed near here. In October, U.S. forces in the area began to pull back, handing security largely over to Iraqi forces.

Now, The Los Angeles Times reports the capital city of the Diyala province has become one of Iraq's most-troubled areas.

The Iraqi security forces in the area are abusive and neglectful, according to U.S. and Iraqi officials. And insurgents have been seen on video pulling Shiite families from their homes, killing them, U.S. officials said.

A farmer in the area, Saad Adnan, told a reporter with the Institute for War and Peace Reporting last month: “Baqubah is a symbol of resistance and Americans will be kicked out by the honorable mujahedin...We are with the mujahedin. They are heroes and history will remember Baqubah’s fight against the occupation.”

A masked, armed militant told the same reporter: “Thank God, we are forging ahead with our goals. We fight the occupation and kill every Iraqi policeman or soldier that protects the Americans. If it was not for them, the Americans would have been terminated and kicked out.”

U.S. military commanders have decided to step up their counterinsurgency efforts in the city. They will add more troops and work toward reconstruction. Late last month, combined American and Iraqi forces raided what the U.S. Army called "a suspected terrorist training camp." The Army said it captured 13 suspected insurgents during the raid.

Already, the U.S. has spent more than $220 million in the Diyala province. But the road ahead appears long; Iraqi contractors are refusing to enter the area and much-needed food and petroleum shipments have dropped off considerably.

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comment on MySpace article
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Talk:World reacts to execution of Saddam Hussein

80.218.64.214 11:57, 3 January 2007 (UTC) I would encourage to mention the fact that many countries object to the hanging of Hussein because his trial never was completed: he was hung to death for the killing of 148 civilians, but was never convicted for the killing of tenthousands Curds, as well as thousands of opponents in Iraq (Neue Zürcher Zeitung, Dec 3). This circumstance will undoubtedly change the way politics will be done in Iraq. Current reactions in news papers suggest that more people are upset about this than the question of whether or not death penalty is right.


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Wikinews:Briefs/January 3, 2007

The time is 12:00 (UTC) on January 3, 2007, and this is Audio Wikinews News Briefs.

Iraqi government to investigate Saddam video
Iraq

A cell phone video has surfaced in various Arab media outlets and also on video sharing websites such as YouTube that shows Saddam Hussein's hanging uncensored. The video contained audio of some witnesses taunting Saddam with chants of "Muqtada" and of the former leader responding that his tormentors were being unmanly. The prime minister on Tuesday ordered an investigation into the conduct of Saddam Hussein’s execution in a bid to learn who among the witnesses taunted the former Iraqi leader in the last minutes of his life and leaked a cell phone video.

Insurgents now control Iraqi city
Also in Iraq...

The city of Baqubah, just northeast of Baghdad, seems to have collapsed under insurgent control. In October, U.S. forces in the area began to pull back, handing security largely over to Iraqi forces. Now, The Los Angeles Times reports the capital city of the Diyala province has become one of Iraq's most-troubled areas. Iraqi forces are abusive and neglectful, according to U.S. and Iraqi officials. Insurgents have been seen on video pulling Shiite families from their homes, killing them, U.S. officials said.

New Zealand holiday road toll at 26-year low
New Zealand

The New Zealand Christmas holiday road toll has been the lowest it has ever been in 26-years, with nine deaths. The annual road toll is also the lowest it has ever been since 1963, with 387 deaths for the whole of 2006.

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The Wikisource icon needs to be updated. --> --Mercifull
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Deletion log
This links to the deletion guidelines page, but I think it should also include a link to the deletion log, which could display a specific reason for a deletion. Could someone add this?

Something like "or check the [{{fullurl:Special:Log|type=delete&page={{FULLPAGENAMEE}} deletion logs]. " could be added after "See Speedy deletion guidelines for possible reasons". —Zachary {{sup|talk}} 15:47, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
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[{{server}}/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page={{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}} deletion logs] and deleted the bit about speedy guidelines. Not long until you can do this yourself!!! --Mark Talk 16:15, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
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User talk:66.181.94.5

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U.S. superbug expected to emerge in Canada

January 3, 2007

An infectious superbug spreading in the United States is to "emerge in force" in Canada, doctors fear. The bacteria have been reported popping up in day care centers and locker rooms across the U.S. Usually elderly or very ill hospital patients get the disease.

More than 2 million U.S. residents are infected every year, the Centers for Disease Control estimates.

An article in the Canadian Medical Association Journal (CMAJ) on Tuesday said that Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) are "spreading with alarming rapidity." The bacteria can cause boils, pimples, or in extreme cases, flesh-eating disease, and more.

"The resistant bacteria is an old foe with new fangs: a pathogen combining virulence, resistance and an ability to disseminate at large," wrote Dr. John Conly, medical professor and an infectious disease specialist at the University of Calgary.

British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Ontario are the provinces which already have had MRSA in hospitals.

A 30-year-old Calgary, Alberta man died last year of lung abscesses associated with the infection, as well as a three-month old toddler in Toronto, Ontario.

Toronto Blue Jays outfielder Alex Rios, last summer, suffered from an infection caused by Staphylococcus aureus in his leg. Pitcher Ty Taubenheim had a similar infection on his foot.

Doctors are currently investigating some Calgary residents, who could be one of the first Canadian reports of MRSA outside of a hospital setting.

Prevention
In their article in the CMAJ, experts say that doing the following steps will help to prevent the disease:

 * Basic hand washing techniques using soap or alcohol gels
 * The use of disposable aprons and gloves by hospital staff, reducing skin-to-skin contact
 * Covering sneezes and coughs to prevent respiratory spread.


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User talk:67.69.19.58

Welcome
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User talk:Jeff Carpenter~enwikinews

Welcome
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Wikinews:Commentary pages on news events

This is a proposal for a third tab on the top of articles next to "article" and "discussion": a place for one to post their opinion about the news event expressed in the article.

Background
On the talk page of an article, Edbrown05 made this comment:

Wikinews needs a place to comment on the news, because when I start rolling my eyes, I don't want to talk about improving the article, I wanna bitch about the news. Seems to me that enough space exits on the tabs at the top of an article for "discussion" or whatever it is to be called. -Edbrown05 02:00, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Messedrocker responded by creating "Wikinews:Rant about articles," where people could post their opinions of the news. Edbrown05 responded with, "No, it's not about that (rant), it is about adding a tab to a news story so people can help improve an article and also talk about it." This led to discussion how there could be an additional tab where people can post their opinions.

Proposal
This is a proposal for an additional to the right of the "discussion" tab reading "post your opinion." This would lead you to the corresponding page title in the Commentary namespace, which would be created. Commentary pages would link to this policy as a reminder.

Format
Commentaries would be posted as if they're talk page comments, however, it would be appreciated that when they post, they post their age category, their general area, where they live, and the date. (For example: "A teacher in his 40s living in Colorado. "). This allows for us to know their background for future historical reference. Or if they're registered, they can simply sign with the four tildes then feature that info on their user page. Again, this is optional, but would be helpful.

If a person wishes to write a followup, then they can indent it like on talk pages. If necessary, comments can be sectionated.

Rules

 * 1) In order for a commentary page to exist, there must be a corresponding article.
 * 2) Comments may not incite violence, be filled with hate, etc.

Important pages

 * This page and its talk
 * comment introduction
 * mediawiki:Common.js

Alternate proposals previously made

 * Template:xt
 * User:Bawolff/idea
 * Template:Featured POV discussion
 * various stuff on the water cooler archives, mailing lists, and other talky things.

Advantages
Not a fan of this idea? Here are some things to take into account.

 * 1) This won't affect the neutrality of articles. Likewise, neutrality rules only apply to the article namespace.
 * 2) This will encourage people to come on; if they post their opinion, perhaps interact with people, then maybe they will get more involved with Wikinews.
 * 3) In order for a commentary page to exist, an article will have to exist. This will encourage people to write the article so they can rant afterwards.

Please discuss this plan on the talk page!

Latest comments
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Saddam's co-defendants to be executed Thursday

January 3, 2007

Two co-defendants who were scheduled to hang with former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein will instead be executed Thursday, according to an Iraqi government official.

Details still need to be worked out with the American military, but the two are expected at the gallows after Islam's holiday, which ends today.

Saddam's half-brother, a former intelligence chief, and , the former chief justice of the Revolutionary Court, were sentenced to death for their roles in the killing of 148 Shiite Muslims in the Iraqi town of Dujail in 1982, following a failed assassination on the then-dictator.

Saddam was hanged before dawn Saturday, before Eid, for the same crimes.

Since then, Saddam loyalists and Sunni Muslims have expressed outrage at the way in which he was killed. A three-minute video shot on a cellphone and leaked to the Internet shows witnesses and the executioners taunting Saddam before his death.

The Iraqi government launched an investigation into the video and on Wednesday arrested one of the guards believed to have shot it.

Reaction to the hanging has been mixed around the world. Even in the U.S., the State Department has condemned the taunting, while President George W. Bush hailed Saddam's death "a milestone."


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First off, we appreciate your contributions. But your story about the interview has been deleted: please accustome yourself with the way this site works to prevent this. Don't violate copyright!--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:14, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

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Toxic chemicals found in four Canadian politicians

January 4, 2007

Toxic chemicals were found in four Canadian politicians after they volunteered to have their blood tested as part of Environmental Defense's report titled Toxic Nation on Parliament Hill.

The federal politicians that were tested are:

 * Environment Minister Rona Ambrose,
 * Health Minister Tony Clement,
 * NDP Leader Jack Layton, and
 * Liberal Environment Critic John Godfrey.

Godfrey at number 55 had the highest total number of pollutants followed by Health Minister Tony Clement and Jack Layton at 54 and Environment Minister Rona Ambrose at 49.

They were tested for a total of 103 chemicals, which are related to cancer, developmental problems, respiratory illnesses, and nervous system damage. The chemicals found in them were mainly from household items which can cause cancer. In total, 54 carcinogens, 37 hormone disruptors, 16 respiratory toxins, 54 reproductive or developmental toxins, and 33 neurotoxins were found within the four politicians.

According to Dr. Rick Smith, Environmental Defence's executive director, the politicians are more contaminated than the ordinary citizens tested last year.

"Our tests show that pollution affects everyone. From Parliament Hill to kids in Vancouver and Saint John, harmful pollutants are contaminating the bodies of Canadians no matter where they live, how old they are or where they work, play or go to school," said Dr. Rick Smith. "I don't know why that is. Maybe it has to do with their strange lifestyle — eating out a lot and a high-stress existence," he said.

"Maybe its attributable to the unique lifestyles these guys lead," Mr. Smith said. "Politicians have a very strange, very stressful lifestyle that results in them grabbing a bite to eat when they can and eating a lot of junk food."

All four politicians were more polluted than child and adult volunteers that participated in a survey released last June for pollutants in families.

Pollutants
The blood was tested in Quebec and British Columbia for pollutants that fall under seven broad groups which are the following:

 * PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls),
 * Stain repellents and non-stick chemicals (known as PFCs, or perfluorinated chemicals),
 * Organochlorine pesticides (such as DDT),
 * Organophosphate insecticide metabolites (such as the breakdown products of malathion),
 * Heavy metals (such as mercury and lead),
 * Air pollutants called PAHs (polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons),
 * Flame retardants (PBDEs, or polybrominated diphenyl ethers).


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Not sure if this article is ready to be published yet. I will finish it today or tomorrow unless someone thinks that it can be published. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  00:19, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Insurgents now control Iraqi city

was this written by a high school student? sheesh.

huh? — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  01:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:89.57.185.133

Welcome!

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Here are some other hints and tips:

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 * When using talk pages, please sign your name at the end of your messages by typing four tildes (~~). This will automatically produce your username (or IP address) and the date.

If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  01:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

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Baghdad TV station shut down for showing Saddam mourners

January 4, 2007

The Iraqi government has shut down the Baghdad studios of a privately-owned satellite TV station for "inciting sectarian violence" because it broadcast images of people mourning Saddam Hussein.

The press-freedom organization Reporters Without Borders on Tuesday condemned the interior ministry's decision to shut down the Al-Charkiya station, which follows the earlier closures of the al-Zaura and Salah-Eddin TV stations for showing footage of Iraqis protesting Saddam's death sentence.

"We are very concerned by the attitude of the government which is imposing more and more restrictions on the press," a statement issued by the Paris-based  read, adding that " [t] he authorities should show more restraint..."

Despite the closure of their Iraqi bureau, Al-Charkiya continues to broadcast from their Dubai and Amman offices.

Saddam was hanged Saturday for the of 148 Iraqi residents of, following an unsuccessful assassination attempt in 1982.


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Talk:U.S. superbug expected to emerge in Canada

I am not yet ready to edit this article, but it smells like a hoax. The superbug is CA-MRSA or community-associated MRSA, which is a staph infection. I suggest reading CDC on CA-MRSA. Actually, I think I will add that particular link to the article's external/sources. --SVTCobra 02:30, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Why do you suspect that, it's published in CMAJ?--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Sorry, my subscription for CMAJ just ran out recently. But seriously, I say so because a) hyperbole (it almost sounds like an invasion), and b) all the sources are from a limited area (in this case Canada). --SVTCobra 03:47, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I apologize to all Canadians. Canada is the second largest country in the world, etc. But what I meant is limited more in a sense of number of people. Or at least concentrated. If there was a Superbug running around, wouldn't those of us who live in the US at least hear about it before it attacks Canada? I'm just wondering.  --SVTCobra 03:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Nice work altogether. Here some suggestions:

I think there should be a source for the expert advice, even if it should come from the same CMAJ article.

Reading the current version it's unclear to me if that outfielder (is this info relevant enough to go into a wikinews article?) suffered from MRSA or just some common staph.

Not sure about anglo-american style, but I would discourage use of the abbreviated "staph infection" in a news article. Sounds like a slang I could hear on the wards. Hunter 14:32, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


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Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Norm. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Norm~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:22, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
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Australian Police net $540 million in "liquid ecstacy"

January 4, 2007

Police in Sydney have seized 1,900 litres of 3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl-2-propanone, a chemical known as "liquid ecstacy" during a raid in the North-Western Sydney suburb of Castle Hill. Authorities estimate the chemical could be used to make up to two tonnes of ecstacy with an estimated street value of AU$540 million (over $400 million).

Police claim the bust is one of the largest in Australia's history.

The operation was carried out by New South Wales, Victorian and Australian Federal Police.

Police are yet to make an arrest and are continuing their investigations.


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Automobiles torched in France for New Years

January 4, 2007

In what is becoming an annual phenomenon in France, 400 cars were set ablaze during the New Year's night. Authorities say this is lower than the usual amount.

In 2006, an average of 112 cars a day were torched across France. There were 15 attacks per day on police and emergency services. Almost 3,000 police officers were injured in clashes with residents. In four separate ambushes, officers were badly injured in the Paris suburbs since September. Police speak of open war with youths who are bent on more than vandalism.


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Talk:CNN typo mixes up prospective U.S. presidential candidate with Osama bin Laden

Gee, a blog, is that soup?

Past occurences
Didn't this happen once before with Niger Ennis? 68.39.174.238 03:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I thought they used chorded keyboards to write news breifs quickly, so key position on a QWERTY keyboard would be irrelavent. 198.237.142.5 20:22, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

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edit protected Please add this article to Category:CNN. Thank you. Green Giant (talk) 01:41, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
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Wikinews:Briefs/January 4, 2007

The time is 11:00 (UTC) on January 4, 2007, and this is Audio Wikinews News Briefs.

Baghdad TV station shut down for showing Saddam mourners
Iraq

The Iraqi government has shut down the Baghdad studios of a privately-owned satellite TV station for "inciting sectarian violence" because it broadcast images of people mourning the execution of Saddam Hussein. The press-freedom organization Reporters Without Borders on Tuesday condemned the interior ministry's decision to shut down the Al-Charkiya station, which follows the earlier closures of the al-Zaura and Salah-Eddin TV stations for showing footage of Iraqis protesting Saddam's death sentence.

CNN typo mixes up U.S. Senator with terrorist
United States

U.S. Senator Barack Obama's family name is very similar to the given name of the most wanted Osama bin Laden. According to American online blog Daily Kos, which was the first to report it, CNN mixed the two up on Monday, leading into a segment on bin Laden with the title, "Where's Obama?" on The Situation Room, a show hosted by Wolf Blitzer.

U.S. superbug expected to emerge in Canada
Canada

An infectious superbug spreading in the United States is to "emerge in force" in Canada, doctors fear. An article in the Canadian Medical Association Journal on Tuesday said that Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus are "spreading with alarming rapidity." Usually elderly or very ill hospital patients get the disease. Experts say that basic hand washing using soap or alcohol gels and other techniques could help to prevent spreading of the disease.

Broncos player Williams shot to death, police looking for suspect
United States

Police are still looking for the suspect that killed Denver Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams, 24, in a drive by shooting on January 1. Williams was killed by a single gunshot wound to the neck.

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Record number of bicycles sold in Australia in 2006

January 4, 2007 Bicycle sales in Australia have recorded record sales of 1,273,781 units for 2006, exceeding car sales by 32 percent. It is the fifth year in a row that the bicycle industry has sold more than one million units, a figure yet to be realised by car manufacturers.

The Cycling Promotion Fund (CPF) spokesman Ian Christie said Australians were increasingly using bicycles as an alternative to cars. Sales rose nine percent in 2006 while the car market stalled. Mr Christie said people were looking to cut their fuel costs and improve their fitness.

Mr Christie said organisations were beginning to supply bicycles as a company vehicle. “There is an emerging trend towards people using bikes as their official company-supplied vehicle in place of the traditional company car,” he said.

“Some of Australia’s biggest corporations now have bicycle fleets, and when you add in government organisations, we now know of at least 50 organisations which operate fleets of bikes."

“Although the company bicycle is a long way from taking over from the company car, it’s an important trend when you consider that nearly half of all cars sold are to company fleets.”

The CPF claims most commutes to work are less than 5 kilometres (3 miles) making bicycle travel a viable alternative.


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