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Queensland Premier aims for a move to Australian federal politics

December 26, 2005 Australia's most experienced state leader - Peter Beattie has given his strongest indication for a move to federal politics.

Beattie, who has been the Premier of Queensland for seven-and-a-half years indicated that he only wishes to stay on for another term in state parliament and that he would never say no to federal politics. He further added "I'd love to see the Labor Party govern federally and you never rule out federal aspirations".

"But frankly, from my point of view, it's more important to deliver on all the things I promised we would deliver on" said Beattie. Beattie will be working over the holiday period to repair the crises that have engulfed his government this year. His government is yet to recover from a slump in two-party preferred polls following the Doctor Death scandal, which exposed major problems in Queensland's health system.

Mr Beattie said he would lead his party to victory in 2007 and serve out another term as premier, but indicated he would consider his "exit strategy" ahead of the 2010 state election. "I'm not someone who wants to stay forever" said Mr Beattie.

Mr Beattie has been grooming his successor, Deputy Premier Anna Bligh and plans to make her Treasurer if Labor wins the next election.

Mr Beattie said his agenda for next year in Queensland included implementing health reforms, furthering his Smart State strategy and kick-starting a multi-billion-dollar plan for infrastructure projects.


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Taxi driver stabbed to death in Nova Scotia

December 25, 2005

A taxi driver was found stabbed to death in his vehicle on Christmas Day in Dartmouth, N.S., police say. Police said they found him at about 08:00 AST on Sunday (12:00 UTC). The man had several wounds, a police spokesperson said. He was pronounced dead at a hospital. No arrests have been made. Police are continuing to investigate.

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Talk:Apaches accuse Prescott Bush of robbing Geronimo's grave

Something Even Far More Disturbing
What apparently isn't legitimately disputable is that the Brotherhood of Death (a.k.a. the Order of Skull & Bones) was in possession of actual human skulls (and still would be in said possession, assuming the group hasn't already disposed of them).

The authenticity of the Skull & Bones documents given to Ned Anderson are not apparently legitimately disputable, given Jonathan Bush (brother of former President George Bush, Sr.) and other Bonesmen's negotiations with Apache leaders in the attempt to resolve the Geronimo skull issue, wherein Jonathan Bush and accompanying Bonesmen presented a human skull to the Apache leaders as being the skull which Bonesmen referred to as "Geronimo," and given Bonesman Attorney Endicott Davison's attempt to get back the stolen Skull & Bones documents.

It may well be that Prescott Bush and his would-be grave-robbing Bonesmen crew made up the story about the skull referred to by Bonesmen as "Geronimo" as having come from Geronimo's grave, in order to score more bragging rights among fellow Bonesmen. Prescott Bush, et al., could have simply robbed the grave of a non-famous person, or obtained some non-famous person's skull via some other means, and simply told their fellow Bonesmen that they stole the skull from Geronimo's grave.

But what's even far more disturbing about this whole matter is that the human skull presented to the Apache leaders by Jonathan Bush and accompanying Bonesmen was that of a child of approximately ten years of age. Ten-year-old children's skulls just don't materialize on people's bookshelves. As well, ten-year-old children have names. What is this child's name, and how did this child's skull come to be a macabre plaything possessed by the Order of Skull & Bones?

This makes at least two human skulls possessed by the Order of Skull & Bones: that of an apparent adult's skull which Bonesmen internally referred to as "Geronimo," of which the stolen Skull & Bones documents and photograph of the "Geronimo" skull pertain to, and that of this child's skull, of which was not previously known about outside of Skull & Bones and of which does not match the photograph of the "Geronimo" skull held by Skull & Bones.

Given the ruling establishment's obsession with dark, occultic human sacrifice rituals (I here refer to the occultic rituals performed at Bohemian Grove and also at Skull & Bones of apparently mock [let's hope] human sacrifices--regarding said rituals performed at Bohemian Grove every year, including hidden video caught of one such event, see the documentary Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove by journalist Alex Jones, and regarding said rituals performed by Skull & Bones members at their Yale "Tomb," see the April 23, 2001 ABC News television report on the hidden video caught of a Skull and Bones ritual; also note that there is a great deal of cross-membership between Bohemian Grove and the Order of Skull & Bones, which includes the Bush Bonesmen), and the testimony of victim Paul Bonacci of being forced to participate in the making of child snuff-films at Bohemian Grove (for which, in part, U.S. Senior District Judge Warren K. Urbom awarded Paul Bonacci $1 million), this raises the question of whether this child whom the skull comes from is the victim of an actual human sacrifice performed by Skull & Bones members.

Even if these human skulls simply came from robbing the graves of non-famous people, numerous laws would thereby be broken in obtaining and in possessing these skulls. If average Joe you or me did these things then I'm sure U.S. law enforcement would not be so forgiving of us.--209.208.77.232 06:23, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

NPOV
The Skull and Crossbones "club" is not a Prescott Bush group; it predates his alleged involvement, and may have included a very wide range of participants making the current title, "Native americans accuse Prescott Bush group of grave robbing", both POV and misleading.

The single article used as a source for this article appears to be reporting from a POV, and may not be entirely trustworthy as a source for this particular story. For example, it reports Prescott Bush was one of the group of 6 US Army soldiers who dug up the skull, but reports that a petition claims the skull was dug up by members of the Skull and Crossbones society. At best this is speculative, as there is very little evidence - and what exists is disputed. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 23:22, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Re; #1 objection. I see what you mean about the title; how should the title be changed?

 * Actually I now see you are mistaken in assuming the title is referring to the S&B group when actually it is referring to the graverobbing group. Neutralizer 23:40, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Re; #2 objection. Your tag came so quickly the other 2 supporting articles had not been added yet. Please allow a bit of time for introduction of articles before tagging them, if you will, please. Neutralizer 23:37, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Re; #3 your assertion about "no evidence". I must wonder if you ahve read the 3 sources? Please do so and reevaluate your no evidence assertion which seems to me to be POV at best. Neutralizer 23:37, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I would suggest "Native Americans petition U.S. Congress to investigate Yale's 'Skull and Crossbones'" or similar, because that's a news event.

 * As for the supporting articles... the last one I saw was rather elderly, and didn't support the news event reporting. I will check the third. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 23:39, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Amgine, Are you saying we are in the business of determining fault and guilt by being "evidence" submitters? I think the "news" here is the petition and it may be valid or not; but we are not a court I don't think. Neutralizer 23:42, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
 * No. I'm saying the news event is the petition. That there is dispute over whether or not the bones are Geronimo's is central to this story, as is the fact there has been a request for repatriation of the remains from the fort by the tribe. What is less than central to the story is who may or may not have been involved in an alleged grave robbery since it is not the news event being reported on. Making it central suggests bias and POV to me. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 23:53, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Finally, something I've actually researched a bit... There doesn't appear to be ANY evidence the skull that they have in the The Tomb could actually be Geronimo's... The written "confession" by the bonesmen which is the basis for the assertion that they robbed his grave pefectly inaccurately describes the tomb of Geronimo. However, there is still a news story here -- that a group is actively petitioning Congress for an investigation -- perhaps Congress will can do something sensible. This could all be easily solved if the someone actually petitioned the BIA to exhume the body to verify that the bones are intact. --Chiacomo (talk) 23:42, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Especially if they reasonably granted the repatriation request from his descendents. </rant>. Yes, a good news story buried in this, and would like to see it developed. Title needs changing, and balance (like perhaps mentioning what that Straight Dope editorial had to say about the inaccuracies and unlikelihood.) -  Amgine | talk en.WN 23:47, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

 * ok; but I don't think we should be trying to decide ourselves the merits of the petition nor how the issue should be resolved. We are just reporters here, I think. Also, Amgine; why didn't you just change the title to what you feel is not pov? I will try now; hopefully with some success. Neutralizer 04:25, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

 * As we all know, news is often only newsworthy because the people involved are famous or connected to someone famous as when Lindberg's baby was kidnapped. It is ludicrous to try to bury the reason this item is news. If it was a gang of bikers accused of robbing a grave it would not be requiring a petition to congress. The fact Prescott Bush is accused of being the ringleader is most important to the story and should be in the title; imo. Neutralizer 04:25, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I have addressed the NPOV concerns which I still have trouble understanding. If the tagger is still concerned, please edit the article or be more specific as to what you are talking about without drifting off into a discussion about the merits of the petition to congress. Neutralizer 04:59, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I think you did a good enought job. I changed the order of two paragraphs to try to bring out the history of the actual interaction between the Apaches and S&B, i.e. the offer to return it, as this is perhaps the major NPOVing point. Nyarlathotep 16:50, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

tag removal?
any actionable objections? I will wait an hour and then remove; can always be put back if justified but please do some editing work to get it where it is publishable in the taggers' eyes. Neutralizer 14:22, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

title
The title needs to include what country this president bush is from, thanks. --MateoP 23:47, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

 * The article isn't about President Bush... --Chiacomo (talk) 23:49, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I see, it should then be more specific about which Native Americans this is. This would be akin to saying "Jews accuse Iran of....." when the article is about the state of Israel.  There are thousands of Native American groups in the western hemisphere, and obviously they are not all accusing "Prescott Bush" of something.  --MateoP 23:57, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Mateo, I agree with your observation. I have changed the title to show it is the Apache tribe that is pushing the matter. Neutralizer 04:27, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

 * The problem, Mateo, is that other tribes have jumped on the issue like the Sioux. Neutralizer 14:23, 26 December 2005 (UTC)


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Cheney-Rumsfeld "Cabal" alleged in the USA

December 25, 2005

Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, who was Colin Powell's chief-of-staff, is attracting news headlines around the globe by publicly accusing members of the Bush administration. He said in a speech at the New America Foundation: "What I saw was a cabal between the Vice President of the United States, Richard Cheney, and the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, on critical issues that made decisions that the bureaucracy did not know were being made."

Regarding Karen Hughes's attempts to improve the country's image abroad? "It's hard to sell [manure]," Wilkerson said. "If you're unilaterally declaring Kyoto dead, if you're declaring the Geneva Conventions not operative, if you're doing a host of things that the world doesn't agree with you on and you're doing it blatantly and in their face, without grace, then you've got to pay the consequences" said the man who was chief of staff at the State Department until early 2005.

Wilkerson also described President Bush's behavior as "cowboyism" and Condoleezza Rice as "extremely weak."

The colonel described Colin Powell as "the world's most loyal soldier," but said he felt his loyalty belongs not to the administration, but to the country.

An email allegedly from Powell told Wilkerson: "Don't characterize my loyalty."

Related document

 * http://www.newamerica.net/Download_Docs/pdfs/Doc_File_2644_1.pdf


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Talk:Australian wheat to lose out in Iraqi market grab

How can you edit the headline? The grammatical error of 'loose' for 'lose' is more glaring there than it woul dbe in the text, but we cannot edit it. Cyferx 23:36, 25 December 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:HIV vaccine trial ready to roll in Thailand

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Is it just me or does ready to roll sound a bit too colloquial? - Apollyon 01:46, 26 December 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:Cheney-Rumsfeld "Cabal" alleged in the USA

country?
this article needs to identify what country this refers to in the title. --MateoP 02:39, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Newsworthy? It's a quote
Enough said. Develop. Incomplete. Tagged. --MrMiscellanious – Merry Christmas – 04:03, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

 * You are correct; when I added the second source I accidentally went over the "develop" prompt. Neutralizer 05:06, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Move it (the quote) to Wikiquote, then delete develop. As is, there's no news here yet. -- NeoAmsterdam 09:28, 26 December 2005 (UTC), edited 13:56, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I did not have much time to develop last night; have tried to this Am; there is lots of interest in this as a news story;. What's going on? Neutralizer 13:41, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

 * OK - I've had my nicotine, I've had my caffeine, and I've read the sources through twice. I'm still not seeing a news item here - Just a war of words born on an op-ed page.  Either way I'll keep my ears and eyes open in case it does develop . -- NeoAmsterdam 14:37, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * (And for the record, I'm no fan of this alleged "administration")

confused
I thought we all worked collaboratively. Is the initial editor now supposed to bring an article all the way through the developing stage? Neutralizer 13:42, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * [removes foot from mouth] -- NeoAmsterdam 14:01, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * thanks for patience,neo. Neutralizer 14:32, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * that's the way it's supposed to be, but the vast majority of editors do nothing but bring issues to the talk page or add wikilinks or categories. Only a few of us actually do the research to write things.  --MateoP 22:12, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

tag removal now?
I'll wait awhile to see if MrM still has a problem. Neutralizer 14:32, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Will remove in an hour if no objections.

No objections on my part. -- NeoAmsterdam 14:39, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Remove tag, but keep in development a little longer. --MrMiscellanious – Happy Hanukkah – 17:25, 26 December 2005 (UTC)


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Template talk:Wikinews Today short infobox

Tagging all articles? Erm, isn't that a bad idea (it says "today's news", some may get it confused with "today" as in date of published article)? --MrMiscellanious – Happy Hanukkah – 04:25, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm really confused by this infobox. Are we just suppposed to delete it the next day? Should we have a script to do that? Nyarlathotep 14:53, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

This could in theory become part of the date template. I am not sure this template is a good idea, but if this is what we want to use the date template would be a great place for it to go--Cspurrier 04:43, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
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User:Sfullenwider/Interview/Frank Warren

The questions were sent on December 27th.

Here are the questions. Some of these questions have been contributed from other members of the Wikinews community and you are certainly welcome to add and respond to any questions that are not here.

This article is not on a deadline. Take your time in responding.

There is a chance that this article will be translated into other languages. If there is anything you wish to say to people of other languages and countries about PostSecret you may say it and I will include what you write in the article.

What is PostSecret for you?

What is PostSecret for others?

You originally sent out 3,000 postcards at the projects inception in November, 2004. Over a year later, approximately how many cards have you recieved?

Geographically, how far away have you recieved postcards?

Has the project changed? How has it changed?

How long will you continue the project?

You let the All-American Rejects use the postcards in their video for a donation to the National Hopeline Network, a suicide hotline. You also have a book out now with some of the proceeds going to National Hopeline. Is depression the most common theme in the secrets that you have recieved?

What, in your opinion, is the motivation for people to send you their secrets?

Now that PostSecret is more well known, do you worry about people sending in false confessions?

Have you ever gotten into any sort of trouble or controversy because of what you have posted on your site? If so, what has happened as a result?

Do you intend to exhibit PostSecrets outside of Washington? Is there a schedule available of future exhibitions?

Finally, PostSecret has touched and aided the lives of many people. How can people help the project?

Again, take your time and I thank you for your time.


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New Zealand Tsunami heroes to receive Special Service Medal

December 26, 2005

A new medal has been created for New Zealanders who helped in recovery efforts after the Boxing Day Tsunami.

Called the New Zealand Special Service Medal (Asian Tsunami) it recognises the work of New Zealanders who went to the region after the tsunami; locating the missing, identifying the dead, and assisting those left behind. Defence Minister Phil Goff says New Zealanders who served in the devastated areas in the first two months after the tsunami, are to receive the medal.

In a provisional list; which was released today; 163 New Zealanders are honoured in which 37 are non-military or police personnel (including aid workers).

Also, forty-seven police officers will receive the honour for their work identifying bodies in Thailand.

Prime Minister Helen Clark said the medal recognised "the special service of those New Zealanders who undertook often harrowing tasks in dangerous conditions".


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More photos on main page
The Wikinews main page is boring. It currently has almost no photos. Compare with http://news.google.com or even the main Wikipedia main page and see the difference. Please see my "more-photos" proposal for Wikinews and vote if you wish. --Unforgettableid | Talk to me 09:45, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

error on breaking news part?
it is about: Brazilian shot by police on London Underground was not acting suspiciously

but the second line says: Italian Court clears the way for the return of bombing suspect to Britian.

that has nothing to do with the story about the brazilian getting shot. 130.89.11.31 12:50, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * actually in the UK this comparison was used by the mainstream press to emphasize the 'blunder' of the police. Basically, comparing the fate of the two. On paper even had the pictures of the two side by side on their front page. I wouldn't be surprised if some wikinews authors 'inspired' themselves from recent press articles. 217.206.58.72 08:38, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

bengladesh bombings a bit old now
See the time in my sig, isn't that story old news already? Just feeling like wikinews has slowed down a bit in the recent days. 217.206.58.72 16:16, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Please feel free to edit the page leads! It's much easier these days and anyone can do it. ClareWhite 16:23, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Another image
We could really do with an image that isn't Breaking, Special or Exclusive for the leads when we don't have a picture (like Mo Mowlam, I really don't have the time to find & upload an image which we'll only be allowed to use for today anyway). Any image makers out there? ClareWhite 11:42, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Dates for articles, quotation marks
If you use new information to update articles from a day or more ago, should you change the date of the article to be the current date?

Also, I'm wondering if it is our style to use the special right and left quotation marks instead of standard quotion marks (" "), and if so, how do I add these to the page? Theshibboleth 04:18, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * IF new information comes into existence more than a day after an article is published, a whole new article should be made for it. Regular quotation marks are fine ;)  -- NGerda 04:23, August 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * Okay. What about articles that are first put into development one day and a are finished on another? Also, the dating system is somewhat unclear to me; are we supposed to be listing all dates as they would be under UTC? Theshibboleth 06:54, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Dates should be in UTC, but mentions of time within the article should be local time and cite the time zone that is. The dates can be changed on articles to the publication date as far as I'm concerned.  Happy writing!  -- NGerda 07:03, August 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * I should also make clear that article dates should not be changed once they are published. :)  -- NGerda 07:06, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * The date on the article (i.e. whatever) should be the date is added to the article . It should never be changed after that, as it will make it jump around on the main page and thus confuse readers ("I thought this story went out yesterday? Is it a new one? Oh, no, it's not."). If you have more information, add it to the existing article. If a new event related to the story occurs, then, as per the content guide, start a new article. Dan100 (Talk) 08:53, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

Image vandalism
Sorry for the image trouble. I got a little confused and had problems finding the original image to upload over the vandalism. It should be fine now (but please delete the image I uploaded here instead of to Commons by mistake). Dcoetzee 07:12, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

New Main Page Design
I believe it is time for Wikinews to go to the next level. The way we've been operating up until this point has been that every article had to be of national or international interest to be published (1, 2) because if an occasional local story was written, it would show up alongside international news stories (which we've mainly focused on at Wikinews). Many other citizen journalism sites focus solely on very local reporting, and all Wikinews contributors I've heard express their opinion on this have supported local journalism and the idea of localism. The Portal system is designed to accommodate reporting on all levels, from international interest articles to neighborhood reporting. We recently moved the Create an Article input box to the top of the Main Page to make it easier for readers to see that they too can create articles for Wikinews. So, as I see it, Wikinews is expanding its horizons into local reporting in addition to its national and international coverage, and an overwhelming majority, if not all, of Wikinews contributors agree with this growth.

The first step I would propose to further this localism development would be to modify the Main Page in a manner that displays international interest stories, as not to upset some readers, and to focus the main page more towards larger issues. Concerns about the main page have already been made. In my opinion, not all local stories should be published on the main page. We have a Featured article section, and we can even have a neat list of local articles we think others might be interested in as well. So my proposal is this: we implement a revised Main Page that instead of listing all articles published, lists the last 5 (or more) published articles, along with automatically-created lists displaying the three most recently published articles for each of the continents we report on and the three most recently published articles for the topics we report on. Not to worry, There would still be two links to the complete list of published articles within the past few days in the area where it lists the 5 most recently published articles. I have spent scores of hours preparing a Main Page design for these ideas here. Please, let me know what you guys think, and if you like the idea, we can have the Main Page updated in about a week, perfect timing with the International Wikinews Writing Contest, as an opening ceremony of sorts.

Sincerely, NGerda 07:14, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Community input

 * Oppose: We can't do that yet Nick. Story output has plummetted over the past few months to barely 5 articles a day. I beleive we should publish everything on the main page until we hit 20 stories a day on a regular basis. Yes the contest will increase output, but only for a while. → CGorman (Talk) 09:30, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * And you do not think a more colorful, better-designed main page will hep attract new writers? -- NGerda 00:38, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

 * Oppose: Agree with CGorman. Our existing design is perfectly good. The phrase "fiddling while Rome burns" leaps to mind - we don't need changes to the site, we simply need people to write more stories. Dan100 (Talk) 11:43, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * So you have nothing against the design itself? -- NGerda 00:38, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

 * Agree:Your new design isnt the best, but it sure beats the current one. I am encouraging all of my local friends to take a look at Wikinews, so hopefully they'll post some stories. Also the "5 stories a day is more like 10, which is 70 a week! I think that is a lot for how many active (daily) users there. -Telecron 13:05:34, 2005-08-30 (UTC)
 * Neutral: I wasn't quite sure how each user's display will know which area (or areas) are local to them, but any such system seems overly complex to me.  Can't we just create and use local categories to do this ?  For example, I believe a "Midland, Michigan" category has been created for stories there.  I do think we need a "Global" category, only for stories of global interest, to keep stories like the one about Irish college entrance results from being displayed outside of Ireland. Only stories of global interest should be displayed on the main page, IMHO.  The Pat Robertson story might be of global interest, but the Little Ceasars story would only be of interest in Ireland and the US. StuRat 17:18, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * This main page design insures that only global-interest articles will be displayed on the main page. -- NGerda 00:38, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

 * Neutral. In all I can say, we do need a new main page - but there are other items we need to get done before this (CGorman's comment pretty much sums it up).  Making the process easier for newcomers, making sure they know all the ropes around here, and just plain getting more articles are much more important than a Main Page right now.  But if you have some free time, please consider a new page - I take a hard look at it and realize it can't really be a easy thing to navigate if you haven't been to it before.  But that's for the future, we have other things to focus on now.  --Mrmiscellanious 19:25, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * There is no need to focus any more heavily on this now than liking the design and approving its uploading. :)  -- NGerda 00:40, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * My mind exactly - focus on the stories for the moment! I appreciate your effort Nick, but I think we should put this idea into the warehouse for a few months and then re examine it. → CGorman (Talk) 19:28, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The new main page is already designed. There is no need to do any more work on it, unless anyone has a roblem with the design itself (which no one so far does).  All I need is for you guys to say "OK" to me uploading the new design, nothing more.  :)  -- NGerda 00:38, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

 * Support I'm up for a trial run.  --Mrmiscellanious 00:40, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose: I like the new leads, but I dislike the rest of it. The colours are excessive and look bad. The page is almost impossible to use with a 15in monitor, even on a larger monitor the page feels overly busy. I also agree with what CGorman said. Even ignoring all these issues I like my news listed by day and I will oppose any change that changes that. --Cspurrier 02:05, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Cspurier, I took your concern about listing into cosideration long ago and made two links on the page to the full list of articles - exactly where you'd expect to find them, above and under the list of the 5 most recently published articles. The fact is, we will never be able to do local reporting if all articles are dsiplayed on the main page; unfortunately readers and editors simply will not put up with it, as they didn't with the sandwhich shop story.  Regards, NGerda 02:32, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

 * Oppose: I too like the new leads, but the page is much to busy -- and, as some have already said, our article count is terribly low. We'd look silly to have days or weeks old stories on the main page. Perhaps some middle-ground could be worked out, but I oppose implementing this design at this time.... --Chiacomo (talk) 02:10, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Can you please point me to where we have weeks-old stories on the main page proposal? -- NGerda 02:32, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * Must you comment on every oppose vote? It's kind of irritating -- and makes it difficult to read. In response to your query:
 * Central America - U.S. Congress passes CAFTA with 2 vote House margin - July 28
 * Health - First unvaccinated survivor of rabies discharged from hospital - January 8
 * LGBT - U.S. study of gay sheep may shed light on sexuality - August 15 (not too old, but still)
 * There are others of course, but these are good examples. I would hope that there aren't stories more than 7-10 days old on our main page. --Chiacomo (talk) 02:40, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Then let's write more stories! :D  -- NGerda 02:47, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * This is my point exactly! Our article count should and must increase before we change the main page substantially and in a way that includes categories that have old stories. Perhaps we (myself included) should spend more time writing articles and less time (scores of hours?) worrying about policy, design, etc... I hope that the writing contest will "jump start" us all, but again, I Oppose this implementation at this time. --Chiacomo (talk) 02:51, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * This is exactly why I oppose this too. This isn't the first time a DPL-based design has been suggested and, as with the last few times, come back with it in six months when we might be ready for it. Dan100 (Talk) 17:19, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * You do not think a more colorful, better-designed main page will hep attract new writers? Face it, our current Main Page is boring.  Would you trust a news source with that kind of main page?  -- NGerda 02:57, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * It's the content, not the presentation. -Edbrown05 04:43, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Also, our current presentation is pretty good, imo. Dan100 (Talk) 17:19, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * I would say the main page presentation is pretty darned important if our average page-loads per visitor is 1.9. It is unfortunate that we are not supportive of any change here on Wikinews.  Good night.  -- NGerda 06:18, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * Super suspicious Wikinewsies leave a story like Broadband users kicked off service for constant questioning lanquish for 4 days until it's hardly news at all. It's no wonder you have a citizen news organization with a traffic count like Indymedia vs. Wikinews when it takes forever to get over it all here... (sour grapes I know). --Edbrown05 05:04, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Support The current home page is incredibly jumbled. It does need a refresh. It's rather confusing for visitors to the current HP to see Technology news mixed in with regional news, disasters, etc. etc. etc.
 * Whoops, sorry the above post was by me. --Spe88 07:40, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Weak Support. I like the overall design of the page. It looks fresher and kinda "cool" to me :). I also like the fact that categories are now displayed on the main page. It highlights the stories and gives the reader a quick overview of what Wikinews has to offer, the topics we cover etc.. The leads also look a lot nicer now, but I think three of them should suffice. Some other minor corrections I'd like to suggest : 1. I think the latest news section should be expanded a little, to maybe accommodate the last 2 days or so. and 2. I don't think it necessary to treat all topics alike. Low traffic topics like LGBT, Education or Health should list less articles on the main-page than categories where we get a lot of articles like Politics and conflicts. But that aside, the Main Page needs a reboot, and your design is a good way to start IMHO. --Deprifry 12:01, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

 * Weak support too. I find the (proposed) main page slightly busy. Right now I think the main thing we need is a new skin( which the contest ended 2 months ago) . The main page right now Looks ugly in the default skin. but in my skin it looks okay and i don't mind it. However my skin looks un-professional in every way posible, especially for the 99% of the population who doesn't like the color yellow. Anyway what i'm trying to say is lets get away from monobook to something different. Monobook is good for an encyclopedia, we arn't an encyclopedia. After we've got a general un-encyclopedic look lets work on the main page.
 * Now, coments just about the proposed main page: I like the way the leads are in your page, however i think three is too much to display like that. I think it would be better to display the third lead like it is now and put lead 1 & 2 as it is in your design. the other problem is there are too many catagories listed and it makes the page look busy. I have no idea what to do about that to fix it, other then ditching cats on the main page. Also categories should have distictly altranating colours in my opinion so its easier to follow. The last thing i wanted to say is if it is posible and if someone knows css beter then i do maybe they could make the browse by section link do the hover trick to make a menu like this for all the categories. Other then that, and if we can't get the skin soon we should do a trial run of this. Bawolff 21:19, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Neutral. I quite like the overall look of the English Wikinews main page. It's not perfect, but I don't think that any of the proposed replacements are very nice. However, I do believe that we should do something to deal with local stories (and until we do, people will be intimidated out of writing them, thinking that they shouldn't). However, I'm not sure if this is the time to do this. Also... why do we have a LGBT category? --Munchkinguy 03:54, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Dunno about LGBT. Do know we have a Munchkinguy to make a very valid point about local stories. Wikinews has a monster trying to crawl out from underneath the bed... A local story nightmare pressing against the inside of the closed closet door. Bill Cosby would be up all night with coffee, scared off in one of his comic routines. How 'neat' do you want your news? Life is messy, so I prefer news that reflects the messiness. -Edbrown05 04:36, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Regarding the local stories issue, my suggestion is that we add a "Global" category, for stories of global interest, and only display those on the main page. StuRat 04:52, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Support, but with Deprify's suggestions - Automatically having smaller categories pop up when they have one recent story will mean the page changes frequently and is a way to promote different portals/categories. Perhaps have the main regions and main topics with a section of about two 'minor' topics and four individual countries below, perhaps expanding that when there is greater use of the local only category: this should lead to a diverse main page. People will be able to see exactly what they're after then, whether it's latest worldwide news or a topic. Can we lose the green behind the category boxes? ClareWhite 11:01, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Weak Support. Again, content should definitely come first.  It needs to be a bit less busy, too.  Kudos, though, for the effort and for thinking ahead.  --Dvortygirl 16:23, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Strong Support but .... We have only very few truely "local" stories, placing them in a getto won't decrease front page content.  However, here local should mean "sub-nation" in most of the word and "sub-state" in the US.  Moreover, we do not have enough local stories to support seperate local sections, so we should have a "local stories" box which shows any recent local stories, unless you configure it to show only your local stories.  As we get more local stories, we can add automatic IP based identification of localation and make sure that at least one or two stories from that location show up in the box, if it has not been configured.  - Nyarlathotep 22:14, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Oppose: I much prefer the current design for as long as the article count is low enough to make is feasible. I don't like having a closed view of current events and quite like having every topic listed together based simply on when it was posted.  At the rate of articles being posted currently, the only thing I'd really like to be different is that each article specify in the title (perhaps even always at the beginning) which country it applies to... I have no clue what some of these titles are talking about, and I sure would feel like a jerk changing all of them myself so that it was easier to tell geography on the main page.  Also, IP-based localization would likely give lots of Canadians a bunch of American internal stuff they don't want while hiding their own.  We should all use .ca but we don't come anywhere close to doing that uniformly, so... --Orbz 01:16, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Support: 9 Neutral: 2 Oppose: 5

Trial run
Is anybody opposed to a trial-run for a few days? We can come back and analyze it after 3 days or so. -- User:NGerda 16:57, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, please don't push it right now. --Dčabrilo 01:21, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * So you are opposed to moving forward and developing this proposal? -- User:NGerda 16:24, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * I also oppose, it is a major step backwards. --Cspurrier 16:52, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Just give the site a little more time. When we have enough stories a day on an on-going basis (ie not because of any contests), then we'll be ready. It's important not to put the cart before the horse. Dan100 (Talk) 17:58, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

Main Page pic
We really should change the pic of the Mosul bridge on the Main Page; it's really totally unrelated to the story.--Pharos 00:12, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Done. No pic of the bridge in question was available, so I put up a map of Iraq showing Baghdad. StuRat 04:47, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Votes for "Global" category to keep local news off front page
I propose that we add a "Global" category, and only apply this to stories of global interest. It would not be used for stories of local interest only, or in two countries only (like the US Little Caesar's pizza chain moving into Ireland). The front page would only display stories with the "Global" tag. StuRat 05:05, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Approve. StuRat 05:05, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The keeps a story off the 'Main Page'. So this mechanism is already in place. -Edbrown05 05:23, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I withdraw the suggestion then, and will add that category from now on. Thanks ! StuRat 05:33, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * However, I encourage people to keep posting stuff to the main page even if it is local news. At this point in Wikinews development, we need to see what other people are doing, especially original reporting. When we have so many articles that the main page is overflowing, then we can start marking articles as "Local only". - Borofkin 05:36, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I would actually recommend Category:Local. --  N G e r d a  05:38, September 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * I assume that articles with the "Local" category still show up on the main page ? StuRat 05:42, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Agree with Category:Local -Edbrown05 05:55, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Hold on with that. We still need to decide what is global and what is local. Is a gay parade in Cologne global or local? Is a gay parade in Kabul global or local? Let's get more articles before we even start thinking about such things. --Dčabrilo 05:57, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I believe the route to more articles is to open the door to reporting contributions from what people know best, their own neighborhoods. And then, every news monger will come crashing down on Wikinews with and against constant sloppy, irrelevant, silly and stupid stories about 'dogs biting dogs' and every nightmare you ever dreamed of as an editor will come true. "Be careful of what you wish for." comes to mind. -Edbrown05 06:40, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I do wish for that. I know many, maybe most oppose. -Edbrown05 06:43, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

I think most people, like me, would very much like to read about stories local to them, but have absolutely no interest in stories local to everyone else. Tagging such articles with "Local only" to keep them off the main page, and then looking up your local area by category, seems like the best solution with the current structure. StuRat 07:03, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Oppose. We have so few stories, that we have no need to try and hide any, oppose unless the local tag is applied by original author. --Cspurrier 11:51, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Craig, my point is that we won't get any local stories until we create a system that alows for them, or at least take them off the main page. --  N G e r d a  00:46, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * I disagree, hiding them can only make the problem worse --Cspurrier 00:48, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * We wouldn't be hiding them; they'd still show up on their respective portals and the complete list of articles. What we would be doing is keeping most local stories off the main page, unless an article is viewed as exceptional be the Wikinews community.  The BBC doesn't display every single local story in England on their main page, because it just doesn't make sense.  We need to asses what the main page should be.  --  N G e r d a  00:58, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

It makes complete sense to use Category: Local only at editor's discretion, preferably with the agreement of the original author. Some stories just look plain odd on the main page, other quirky local stories may be felt to be of international interest. This has worked well so far both for Quakers and Brampton, Ontario. ClareWhite 15:03, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Personally I prefer to keep everything on the Main Page, as I reckon readers are pretty good at quickly judging what they do and do not want to read. Dan100 (Talk) 17:10, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

Second lead and Feature Article ?
They aren't displaying for me. Is anyone else having this prob ? StuRat 15:18, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

 * This issue seems to be fixed now. StuRat 17:16, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Stories in Development
News briefs:September 2, 2005 has shown up under "Stories in development", even though it does not have a tag. Furthermore, it not an actual story, but a compilation of newsbriefs for Audio Wikinews. Can someone remove it from the "Stories in development" column? --Munchkinguy 17:46, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * It should now be fixed. The tag is no longer required, the list is a list of all stories on Wikinews that do not have the published tag on it, it also excludes a few other types of stories, such as briefs, and portal pages. --Cspurrier 17:57, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

use the Brief category to keep them off the develop list. the developing story template shows all the categories that are excluded from the list so people should check that for the most appropriate category to use in their own case. pages show there if they have been innapropriately placed, which is quite useful. ClareWhite (no tildes)

Make a nice big blue (navy inset) border in
like this:

I've been playing around with different parts of the main page on user:Bawolff/Sandbox/Main Page, and I tried putting a border around template:FrontPageMenu. I personally think that it looks much better with the border. Bawolff 22:06, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it looks scary. :'(  -- User:NGerda 16:21, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * It would look better with a 1px border. --Ardonik.talk(*) 05:07, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * How about a skinny outset with a darker blue? Bawolff 21:26, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Very nice. The purple is pretty, but a tad too dark.  --Ardonik.talk(*) 18:40, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * This is a similar banner to what I proposed under the Main Page Redesign Proposal (see above). Looks nice ;) -- User:NGerda 22:14, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

Main page update compromise
There has been ongoing discussions, and disagreements, about returning topics to the main page. NGerda has proposed and, twice, implemented a version of the main page which has not achieved a consensus, in part because of the large changes proposed in it.

One possible resolution would be to use "top" categories - only a very small number of them - which would take up far less of the main page. A still large and predominant "latest news" section would be the primary element of the main page, and a broader topics/regions menu on the main page would allow topic-oriented browsing which is currently not ergonomically implemented.

I would personally suggest the following top categories: International [stories of global resonance], National [stories of great importance in a given nation] and Sports [all sports]. These are not traditional Wikinews content categories, but categories regarding the percieved audience interest in the articles.

There have been comments regarding the use of color on the main page. Although the current main page is not monochromatic, the use of color can severely hamper the ability of people with accessibility issues to use Wikinews. Specifically, varying levels of color "blindness" make text on even mildly colored backgrounds unreadable. If color must be an element of the design, it should be reserved to borders.

Would these two issues, severely limited topics and reduction or elimination of color, allow for compromise on updating the main page layout? - Amgine/talk 00:08, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

 * These are excellent ideas, Amgine. Allowing some topical grouping based on the categories you suggest would be great. My only concern about the "National" category is that in current "main-stream" media sites (and I know we're not trying to be compete with main-stream media), the "National" sections refer to one nation. Readers are presented with the appropriate nation depending on which portal they visit. Would we simply include all nations in our topic box -- would we segment them in some way? I'm not objecting in any way to a grouping of national news that is not segmented; I'm just asking.. :D --Chiacomo (talk) 01:58, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

 * My thinking is that "top-level" 'Topics' are workable on the Main Page in the center column of a 3-column layout as proposed. I don't see how 'Regional(National)' coverage (to echo Chiacomo comments above) is workable since Wikinews coverage aims for all Global events.

 * I would very much like to see the 'Latest news' section list at least 2 days of stories, because I notice a lot of edit activity being done on day-old stories.

 * Finally, I really like the idea of getting all lead stories placed in the center column. How the left and right columns are ultimately developed is another matter. -Edbrown05 16:33, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

 * The problem isn't the layout. It's that MonoBook is NOT adapted for any sort of news site. It needs to be redone first. If the sidebar and top bar are redone to account for the "news" layout, we could get a lot more free space for real news. For example, a categeory list could be put down the left, there could be a links bar at the top, etc. Cap'n Refsmmat 22:08, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Speaking of which, I've been working on a new Wikinews skin, tentatively called "Linear". The idea is to maximize the amount of space devoted to the articles.  I've got more details about it at User:Brent Dax/Linear skin, if you're interested.  —Brent Dax (talk) 09:13, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I like Linear :D. Don't forget about custom skin and Wikinews design contest. We really need a new skin. Bawolff 06:16, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Typo
Nuclear has one l, not two. (the error is in the North Korea headline)

css is badly screwed up in MSIE 5
Yeah I hate using IE5 but i have to. 199.216.246.56 18:10, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * seems fixed now. 199.216.246.56 18:15, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Original reporting
Craig removed the OR box with the summary: removed Original stories, the stories are offten old and it just adds clutter. I have restored it, for these reasons:

 * "Old" by what standard? Currently, they're about a week old, that seems to be fairly typical. Given that they are, by definition, original, they don't have to be hot off the presses to be interesting.
 * I find it extremely important to highlight that OR is allowable and practiced on Wikinews, to encourage people to submit such material.
 * I don't really see it as a main source of clutter, since there are only 4 stories in it anyway. The main source of clutter on the right side is the developing stories list.

We can tweak the format, but I would strongly recommend that some version of the OR box remain on the Main Page.--Eloquence 07:45, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I don't necesarily see the point of having 'developing stories' on the front page, as readers don't want to see stories that are being written and editors can go to the workspace. Any rationale on that? — Ilγαηερ   (Tαlκ)  20:35, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I do, it is very important to readers that they see we have an open and productive editing process. Many people wonder how articles are made in an open source community...might as well show them! Most importantly though is the time factor. To be a news source that people use regularly we need to have changes and new stories out quick. Editing can take hours, thus the need to have it listed on the main page so people can read a story right away as it devolops. Flying Canuck 04:53, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Ditto. Having developing stories on the main page is essential to make the nature of WN clear to our readers. --Deprifry | +T+ 10:01, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Podcasts
Who does the podcasts? --Thorpe89 23:18, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I don't know the answer to that one, but along a similar line of thought, are we compliant/compatible with screen readers? Is there any W3C WAI planned? NeoAmsterdam 02:14, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * (P.S.: Ogg doesn't play on iPods, so it can't really be a "podcast" but that's just me splitting hairs...)

Girl's flu case found to be drug-resistant
A girl who likely caught avian influenza from her bother needed high doses of medicine to fight off the virus.

from her bother? G Clark 00:43, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Random page
Why is there link to Special:Random like there is in other Wikis?

THere needs to be a link to http://www.vorbis.com/ next to the Audio Wikinews files. .ogg is not a very common audio format and few people outside of the opensource community know how to listen to it. 69.162.17.100 19:20, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I've added a link to the Wikipedia article about OGG. This should explain what .ogg is and how to listen to it. --Deprifry | +T+ 19:28, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
 * There used to be a link to special:random but it got changed with browse by section because most people thought that no one used random page. Bawolff 22:21, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Lets change the default skin to cologne blue or amethyst
I think it would be a good idea to change the default skin to amethyst(some pages might need changing) or Cologne blue. Other skin choices that might work: Bawolff 17:34, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * simple
 * chick gives us lots of room
 * Standard (note — not the same as monobook.
 * somthing off of Wikinews design contest
 * custom skin
 * user:Brent Dax's Linear skin (looks promising. not sure if its done yet.

 * I like cologne blue. Some of the design contest templates are nice. This one particularly: Custom skin

 * Of the two, I like the cologne blue better. Anything with a dark background is like venturing into a black hole. -Edbrown05 18:10, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I also like cologne blue a lot (but then I'm probably biased since I was born in Cologne:)). I guess the main problem with changing the default skin is that it would move us away from the, as my economy teacher would call it, corporate identity of Wikimedia. I don't think this would be a good thing to do since I would IMO confuse a lot of new readers who come here from Wikipedia. --Deprifry | +T+ 18:27, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * True, but I find the Wikimedia projects look exactly like every other non-WM Wiki out there.--Wolfrider 18:34, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, and people are used to it, that's how a wiki looks in their minds. An entirely new look might scare them away (or it might attract them, but the line is pretty thin IMHO) --Deprifry | +T+ 18:42, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * That's a good point. --Wolfrider 20:29, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I really like colgne blue (and the Wikinews Custom skin -- and, while it is useful to appeal to editors from other WMF projects, it might also be helpful to change to something more "dynamic". Let's continue discussing this and try to draw in other opinions. --Chiacomo (talk) 03:54, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm partial to Datrio's design contest entry, which is a css modification to Monobook so people from WP are familiar with the elements and layout, while at the same time improving the color functionality/useability. A working implementation is at Journowiki.org - Amgine /talk 04:08, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Portals
I see that Wikipedia has portals, such as the Computer and Video Games portal. I think this concept is a good one as they can act as a nice summerizer of issues / topics.

Could this portal concept be extended to Wikinews? Portals could cover specific topics, much like how newscientist.com has different topic areas such as health. Instead of by topic, some portals could be for specific locations or organizations. Should Wikinews get portals like Wikipedia, is there a better term (newscientist calls them channels)? --ShaunMacPherson 19:57, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Portals take effort to maintain. I think the categories on Wikinews serve this purpose well enough for the moment. 65.27.72.14 23:47, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

 * We do have portals. some are more like topic pages and some are more in the style of wikipedia portals (Portal:Australia and Portal:Brampton, Ontario comes to mind.) see also SectionMenu.Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 22:04, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Oct 22 2005
The internal link for October 22 actually points to Oct 21. I don't know why it would be designed to do this.

 * fixed, thank you for calling that out. -Edbrown05 18:08, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Dynamic Page Lists on the homepage
Hi folks. Looking at the daily DPL blocks, I noticed that they look like:

 category=October 23, 2005 category=Published notcategory=Disputed suppresserrors=true

Where they should look like:

 category=Published category=October 23, 2005 notcategory=Disputed suppresserrors=true

Note that Published is the first category. This is required if we want to list stories in the order they were published, rather than some random order they were originally tagged with the date. -- IlyaHaykinson 08:06, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

I think I've gone insane
Twice today I've tried to add new stories, twice today it looked like it was going to do it, but failed. I shan't be adding to this anymore, it's bloody infuriating! --Irishpunktom 19:39, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Rosa Parks died
Rosa Parks died - someone should update this page -- Raul654 02:35, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Language link to he:
Admins - please add the following to the interwiki language links at the bottom of the Main Page:

עמוד ראשי

For Hebrew Wikinews, which was just created today. Dovi 07:44, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I added it to the Other lang Box, but somebody beat me to the interlang link. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 02:36, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Good Luck To Hebrew Wikinews

 * Thinks Bawolff is evil, very evil... - 24.85.85.76 03:02, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

 * ??? Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 03:18, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

 * "Text-decoration:Blink" - Amgine 03:19, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
 * ahhh. lol - Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 19:36, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

avian flu infobox typo
the list of pandemics lists the current pandemic as "H1N5", but it should be H5N1. -- 4 Nov 05 -- doublez
 * Thanks for pointing that out.☺ by the way you can also edit it yourself. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 01:04, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Thnx for that link, couldn't find it. -- doublez

privelidges
Someone please fix "privelidges" on the front page.

 * Done. Thanks for the notice. And btw, you can also edit the page yourself --Deprifry | +T+ 20:00, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

How frequently does Wikinews get updated?
How many people do you have working on articles because news is 24/7 a day please NEWS is important!!!!!!! Maoririder 20:34, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree, we always need more people. Are you willing to help? Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 01:44, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

validation problems
I don't know how to fix these as they apear to be somewhere in MediaWiki: Land. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:17, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Accreditation requests...
How long do they take, on average? -- user:zanimum
 * Until an admin gets to it :). I have been dealing with them mostly by myself so it can take some time til I remember about them. --Cspurrier 19:39, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Okay, no prob. --  user:zanimum

W3C Validator
 There's a problem with main page. In the page footer (line 523) there's and there should be:. --Derbeth 18:03, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Theres a couple more problems then that. However they're all spread through MediaWiki: land. If you can find the actual page its on I'll be glad to fix it. I think the automatic HTML Tidy got disabled which is part of the problem. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 07:10, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
 * That seems to be in MediaWiki:Copyright, but my html knowledge is hovering a few cm above ground, so I better not try to fix it myself ;). --Deprifry|+T+ 14:03, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Main Page validates now. -- IlyaHaykinson 17:42, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

List of current events
Why are some of the events listed a day late? Tueni was killed on Monday, not Tuesday, The Aus Guantanamo prisoner got British citizenship on Tue, not Wednesday. Compare with Wikipedia Current events. -- SGBailey 16:16, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * We currently publish stories when we are done developing them, not when the event happens. Otherwise, let's say someone starts an article on Monday but it takes us two days to get the article fixed up per style/content/npov guides; if we publish it in the Monday group, it'll likely scroll off the page and nobody would see it.
 * In general, though, I agree that the way we show things right now isn't great. I've been an advocate of not grouping articles by date on the homepage, but rather by topic / region. -- IlyaHaykinson 17:17, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Crazy pictures
What is going on with the front page right now?70.153.252.130 16:05, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTO_Ministerial_Conference_of_2005 has been vandalised 129.128.166.158 22:34, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Was vandalized. For 9 minutes. -  Amgine | talk 22:35, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

New York City transit strike
Howdy folks - I'm a seasoned Wikipedian but completely new to Wikinews - I live pretty close to NYC and the transit strike is coming soon, which seems like it would be newsworthy...I would love to create a video news segment ( a friend with video experience is on board to help)...could anyone give me some guidance on this? I think we can probably make a pretty professional looking and overall nice looking video but I'm a total n00b and need to get acquainted around here. If anyone can help, please give me a call at 516 659 0689 or leave a comment at my Wikipedia user page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PaulHanson ) .....thanks a bunch and hope to talk to you soon PaulHanson 06:13, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi Paul, thanks for dropping by. A video would be of huge use here, however it would proably have to be hosted externally. We had a user called DV who produced a number of videos a while back, however he has since left the project. I'm not that involved at present and my experience with video would not be that strong, but I would suggest you talk to Ilya (our resident techie), Craig or Nick (our Audio guy). Good luck. →  CGorman (Talk) 11:17, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I've been covering the TWU negotiations on-and-off for the last couple of days (Still have a few final exams this week, so I'm kinda hoping there is a strike). If you want, I can set up an I have set up an article collaboration section on the NYC Transit Negotiation Category page to coordinate coverage.  Worst-case I'd be an hour-and-change away by LIRR; best-case, I'm there when it happens.
 * NeoAmsterdam 02:23, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I beleive nick left the project after he switched license. Is he still here? Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 05:52, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Did he? God i've been away for too long! → CGorman (Talk) 20:34, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Bush Authorizes Wiretaps without Warrants
Hello, I have no idea what I'm doing so forgive me if the format is off or something, but has anyone started a story on the New York Times article about Bush authorizing line taps without warrants in 2002. 64.12.116.203

 * Articles in development are found on the right side of the main page with the newest ones on top. That's where you can check if an article has already been started on a subject. As it turns out, an article seems to have been started on the subject you mentioned: Bush autorized N.S.A spying on Americans without court-approved warrants. Feel free to contribute to it! - Apollyon 22:50, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Links off-site to news reports?
What happened to the links to news articles outside of wikipedia and wiknews on specific news? It was really helpful to have that external link right there... now I'm redirected back into Wikipedia and left to search for a brief blurb about the new event. 18.187.1.234 21:55, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

There isn't even a link to the wikinews article. :( 18.187.1.234 21:57, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you are talking about. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 22:12, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

 * On wikipedia's front page, in the wikinews box, there used to be the one-line summaries with wikilinks to wikipedia entries on the subject, and at the end of that, there was an external link to CNN or Rueters or BBC. Now, the external links not there anymore. 18.187.1.234 22:33, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Are (a) the external links going to come back, or (b) be replaced by a link to the appropriate wikinews article, etc? ... (b) would be a good idea as long as the wikinews articles continue to be well referenced. :) 18.187.1.234 22:42, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Oh you mean the current events/In the news box on 'pedia. Links are not on the main page, and i don't think they ever have been. however there is links at Current events. This is external to wikinews and not under our control. you should probally ask at w:talk:current events. (assuming your talking about the thing I think you are). Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 23:37, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Hmm... thought it used to be on the main page. Maybe I'm just confused. Thanks for the clarification. :) 18.240.5.139 02:43, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

 * no problem. Glad I could help. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 03:57, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

"Black vulture population targeted for reduction at Virginia boat launch"
... and who says Wikinews is parochial?

Fix Links to Sisterpojects?
See my comment at Template_talk:Sisterprojects
 * Responded there. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 23:08, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Photojournalism?
Does WikiNews handle photojournalism? Is there a news gallery? -- NeoAmsterdam 19:55, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Wikinews supports photojournalism via Wikimedia Commons. If you are willing to contribute news images to commons they can immediately be linked in Wikinews articles. Make sure your photos meet the minimum requirements for Commons: freely licensed, correctly sourced (including a link to the original web publishing site if previously released on the internet), and so on. Please add a wikinews category to the image description on commons, and a link to articles in which it is featured. (Someone with time to donate might want to go through Wikinews articles which have images and provide links on the image description pages...) -  Amgine | talk en.WN 20:02, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm currently scanning in photos I took for transit strike coverage. I was thinking of setting up an image gallery page of photos for each day of the strike.  Ideas? -- NeoAmsterdam 21:09, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I think the easiest way to do that would be to upload the photos to the commons, creating categories there like "NYC Strike - Day 1" or something and then sorting the images into those categories. That way you'll get a gallery pretty fast. --Deprifry|+T+ 21:14, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Once again, I owe you one. :-) -- NeoAmsterdam 21:26, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I think theres also a tag for making image gallary's that might be useful. (don't know anything about it though, so you'd have to ask someone else) also all Wikinews images should have  as some people(from what i've read on the talk page) find the plain wikinews cat to crowded. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 23:13, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Disproportionate Number of Australian Headlines
I just added an RSS feed of Wikinews to My Yahoo and am noticing a rather large percentage of Australian headlines. How are headlines selected to make the front page, and why are so many Aussie articles being selected? Should I be linking to a different feed?

 * All articles produced by Wikinews appear on the RSS feed, and it just so happens that there are currently a large number of Aussie articles being written. I don't know of another RSS feed that you can use. - Borofkin 02:57, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Australian woman wins right to have dead husbands baby, who cares about this? I agree too much Australian headlines...--130.161.31.21 19:43, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Then write articles about other places and they too will appear on the front page. It would be great if we could get specific feeds based on what type of news it is, but we don't have that now.  Complainers should do more writing of their own.  --MateoP 17:56, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, MateoP is right. We won't have specilized feeds until we get enough articles. Australian's shouldn't be discouraged from writing, others should be encouraged to write. Nyarlathotep 00:41, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Adjectives
Regarding "Egypt court sentences opposition leader", do the writers of this news source have something against the use of adjectives?

Please purge the main page
Someone please purge this page so that it will no longer show the corrected grammatical error, "Australian wheat to loose out in Iraqi market grab", which I have corrected to "Australian wheat to lose out in Iraqi market grab". (loose is the opposite of tight; lose, on the other hand is the opposite of keep, retain, or win). Actually, a purge button on the main page would facilitate this without introducing the risk of vandalism. Cheers! BD2412 00:03, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks. BD2412 T 02:16, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:83.149.51.2

Welcome
83.149.51.2, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome!
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
 * Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced
 * Introduction - overview of the site
 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
 * Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
 * Style guide - how articles should look before publishing
 * Contents - the contents page.
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * Audio Wikinews could always use more contributors
 * And of course, stories need writing!

Additionally, thanks for experimenting with Wikinews. Your test worked, and has now been reverted or removed. Please use Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles will be reverted quickly. --Deprifry|+T+ 12:27, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:130.58.24.89

First off, we really appreciate your contribution.

But sometimes users submit an article from somewhere else, not realizing that Wikinews cannot keep copy-n-paste versions of articles which are published under a restrictive copyright. A copy and paste like that is a copyright violation, and Wikinews policy is to erase those even if they are excellent article ideas.

Another problem which sometimes comes up is press releases. Press releases are sometimes excellent sources, but they do not qualify as unbiased news articles so they can't be published as they are. Two key things to remember about press releases is that they're usually written to represent the viewpoint of an involved party (Thus likely running foul of our Neutral Point of View policy). And second, they are generally covered by copyright which can conflict with our open editing approach.

A better way to get an article on an exciting subject published here is to write an original article following the guidelines described in writing an article, or to write a brief explanation of the subject and include the url address of articles or websites to use as sources.

Thanks again! --Deprifry|+T+ 12:42, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:59.190.69.135

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! Thank you for your contributions; I hope you like the place and decide to stay! If you haven't done so already, you may want to create an account.

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! --Deprifry|+T+ 12:42, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
 * Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced
 * Introduction - overview of the site
 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
 * Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
 * Contents - the contents page.
 * Newsroom - The comunity portal
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * And of course, stories need writing!

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User talk:Neutralizer/runninglist

Suggestion to put "running list" here on my user space
If you wish to keep a running list of perceived administrator excesses, omission, or malicious actions, please do so in your own user space. The water cooler is not the place for such lists -- and it will be archived at some point. --Chiacomo (talk) 14:50, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

 * The archived conversations are accessible, yes, but one generally doesn't continue adding to an archive. Additionally, if you have a specific objection or problem with an article, the best place for comments is on the article's talk page. The best page for personal lists is in the user space. Please consider moving/continuing your list in your own user space. --Chiacomo (talk) 14:58, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Running List

ok..here is the running list Chiacomo referred to above of efforts to delay,sanitize( titles + content ) and prevent publishing of stories which the current U.S./UK/Aussie government administrations would likely want to see delayed,sanitized or go un-published;

Most recent now at the bottom;

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 * UK work secretary David Blunkett resigns
 * U.N._denied_access_to_Guantanamo_inmates
 * Australian_Treasury_related_agencies_spend_17000_AUD_on_massages_in_2004
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 * U.N._denied_access_to_Guantanamo_inmates
 * U.N._denied_access_to_Guantanamo_inmates
 * Anti-terror_amendments_to_be_rushed_through_Australian_parliament_because_of_new_%27potential_threats%27
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 * Hundreds_of_SUNY_New_Paltz_students_demonstrate%2C_storm_administration_building
 * Several_dozen_protesters_arrested_outside_White_House_for_permit_violations
 * Anti-war_activist_Cindy_Sheehan_arrested_outside_White_House
 * Anti-war_activist_Cindy_Sheehan_arrested_outside_White_House
 * France_protests_treatment_of_government_minister_by_US_authorities%3B_US_government_admits_mistake
 * Sunni_leader_says_Iraq_vote_was_a_%22farce%22
 * Grand_Jury_investigation_of_Plame_leak_nears_end
 * French_government_minister_harassed_by_US_immigration
 * American_soldiers_accused_of_desecrating_enemy_bodies
 * Arrest_warrant_issued_for_Tom_DeLay
 * Expenditures_by_U.S._relief_agency_questioned_in_wake_of_Katrina
 * Iraqis_say_U.S._bombing_killed_39_civilians
 * FEMA_credit_card_expenditures_questioned
 * Bush_holds_rehearsed_press_conference_with_US_troops_in_Iraq
 * Bush_administration_threatens_to_veto_%27anti-torture%27_legislation
 * President_Bush_may_veto_detainee_treatment_amendment
 * U.S._Government_ordered_to_release_more_images_related_to_Abu_Ghraib_case
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 * White_House_denies_that_God_told_Bush_to_invade_Iraq
 * U.S._Government_ordered_to_release_more_images_related_to_Abu_Ghraib_case
 * US_military_to_buy_anthrax_and_bioweapons_production_systems
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 * U.S._soldiers_engaged_in_gore-for-porn_swap
 * NYPD_shuts_down_anti-war_speech_due_to_absence_of_permit
 * John_%22Jebby%22_Bush%2C_son_of_Florida_Governor_Bush%2C_arrested_for_public_intoxication
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 * http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Bush%27s_Iraq_%27Strategy%27_seen_as_public_relations_exercise&diff=172082&oldid=172081

most recent below

 * http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Runaway_foster_child_found_living_with_pedophile&diff=179852&oldid=179085
 * http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Saddam_Hussein_makes_%27torture%27_claim_at_trial&diff=179497&oldid=179491
 * http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Senate_rejects_short-term_extension_of_the_USA_PATRIOT_Act&diff=prev&oldid=178918
 * http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=House_raises_impeachment_issue&diff=prev&oldid=179317
 * http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Senate_rejects_short-term_extension_of_the_USA_PATRIOT_Act&diff=178011&oldid=176981
 * http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=President_Alvaro_Uribe_asks_Washington_to_stop_meddling&diff=177638&oldid=177631
 * http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Report:_Bush_secretly_authorized_NSA_domestic_eavesdrop_of_international_conversations_without_courtwarrants&diff=176979&oldid=176949
 * http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Report:_Bush_authorized_NSA_surveillance_of_international_conversations&diff=177081&oldid=177076
 * http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Report:_Bush_authorized_NSA_surveillance_of_international_conversations&diff=177116&oldid=177115
 * http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Report:_Bush_authorized_NSA_surveillance_of_international_conversations&diff=177328&oldid=177316
 * http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Report:_Bush_authorized_NSA_surveillance_of_international_conversations&diff=177420&oldid=177418
 * http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=60th_anniversary_of_Nuremberg_trials_marked&diff=168894&oldid=168594
 * http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Indictment_of_Jose_Padilla_avoids_Supreme_Court_and_contains_none_of_original_charges&diff=168900&oldid=168031

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User talk:Neutralizer/Delay and obstruction to articles that report the misdeeds of the U.S. government et al.

== Thanks to Chiacomo and Amgine for the water cooler "flag" suggestion(Amgine) and creation (Chiacomo) == Neutralizer 15:28, 15 January 2006 (UTC)


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Four Russian stores hit with gas attacks

December 26, 2005 In Russia's second largest city, St. Petersburg, four gas attacks left more than 70 people ill. Devices with wires, timers, and glass vials of a gas determined on scene to be were found in outlets of Makisdom, a home improvement chain store. The chemical is both naturally occurring and manufactured and is used as an oderant for detection of propane or natural gas leaks.

Store officials have said that they had received threats that sales would be disrupted before New Year's. Russians traditionally give gifts on the holiday. Police officials said they believed a commercial dispute or a prank not terrorism.

The local emergency hospital was overflowed from the influx of ill people from the attacks. Valentina Matviyenko, Governer of St. Petersburg, said that those who sought medical help were not suffering any further medical problems.

A custodian at one of the stores found the devices and alerted police. The devices were found at another store with their vials broken. The devices in the two other stores were carried outside by employees and covered with buckets. The police explosives experts defused them.


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Colombian terrorists own 42 aircraft

December 26, 2006

According to the El Tiempo newspaper, Colombian drug lords and rebels maintain at least 42 aircraft. The fleet includes five light Cessna planes, four reconnaissance helicopters and a helicopter set up as an air ambulance. They are also used to transport people and drugs.

The country's biggest guerrilla group, the left-wing FARC, operates between 15 and 20 aircraft, most acquired in the early 90's from defunct drug cartels.

Right-wing fighters operating in eastern and south-eastern Colombia run seven aircraft, while drug traffickers in the southeastern Valle province have between 15 and 20 aircraft.

According to a captured terrorist, the head of fighters in Meta, in central Colombia, has a Bell helicopter and a Cessna airplane for his personal use. Additionally, a drug lord in Valle province owns a private plane large enough for 14 passengers.

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Battle of Adre extends Darfur Conflict

December 28, 2005

After the Battle of Ardre, many civilians and military officers of both Chadian and Sudanese origin were killed. After this, Chad declared (according to some translations) a "a state of war" against Sudan, and encouraged all of its people to honor that declaration. There have been many conflicting reports of the number of deaths, but a good estimate would be that both sides have lost around 400-600 people.

These battles and declarations is just a continuation of the Darfur that has ravaged this region for several years past. As tensions between the two nations get more fierce, we can only imagine what might come next.

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Bombmaking materials found near farm of Colombian President Alvaro Uribe

December 26, 2005

A neighbor of the Colombian President called police when they found a bag near the road close to President Alvaro Uribe's farm. Soldiers who then inspected the bag found 11 pounds (5 kilograms) of C4 explosives, detonator cords, and other material needed to assemble an explosive device. The President's spokeperson said, "They found all the elements of a bomb but it had not been assembled and it was not ready to be detonated."

Uribe then left the farm and went to stay on another of his farms, this one in his home province Antioquia, for the remainder of the holidays.

Uribe has been the target of multiple assassination attempts, usually by marxist guerillas. He was, for example, the target of assassination attempts while he was campaigning and then again on his inauguration in 2002. His father was assassinated by marxist guerillas. The administration blames the rebel group Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia for most of the attempts on the president's life.


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MediaWiki talk:Edittools

Giving example because a bunch of people have been slightly confused. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:09, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. preview acted differently then It did in real life. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 21:12, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * This is the same on most MediaWiki: pages --Cspurrier 21:25, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've learned that the hard way a couple times... Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 21:26, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I think you mean "example." Paroxysm 20:49, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Line breaks
Is there any way to get line breaks in the template that is inserted? This one is horrible to fix when people just put in a generic website like CNN.com. Brian McNeil / talk 21:00, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Example
Can the example be changed from:

For examle if the source was The Times, the title was "Santa delivers presents", the author was "S. Claus", and it was published December 25, 2005 it would be:

To:

For example, if the source was BBC News Online, the title was "Las Vegas hosts digital nirvana", the author was "Alf Hermida", and it was published January 3, 2006 it would be:

The existing example encourages people to cite the website rather than the specific article, and giving a real example that clicking on shows the same data has to be better. (plus there's a speeling errrrrror. :) Brian McNeil / talk 21:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Charinsert
can we kill everything after this line?

If (on the rare occasion) anyone actually needed it they could find it manually or ask someone else. I think its just taking up space for the chars after that line because their almost never be used. Or we could take the approach that wiktionary had for a while that only displayed one-line at a time. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:26, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Ready template
Can someone please change the ready template on the template tools to review, since it now redirects there? Thank you. Majorly (talk) 12:13, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Brian McNeil / talk 12:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Copyedit
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Please change this line to "Please ensure that you have read and understood these guidelines before submitting an article for review; otherwise publishing can be delayed." :| TelCo NaSp Ve :|  07:13, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

 * ✅, more or less. Fixed the typo.  The explanation of why it'd delay things wanted to be either more complicated than it was, or omitted as you suggest.
 * Please ensure you have read and understood these guidelines before submitting an article for review; otherwise, publication may be delayed.
 * --Pi zero (talk) 12:09, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Cull
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Could we remove from the links? It's a template that should never normally be used outside of EPR, and, in the unlikely event that it does need to be used, it'll only be used by experienced editors that would know what to type manually. — μ 22:57, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

 * Done. I also noticed that there was completely wrong-headed information for newbies about publication, which I rewrote extensively.  --Pi zero (talk) 14:27, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request
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Change  to   and   to. --Minorax (talk) 12:19, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Done as requested. --Cromium (talk) 19:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

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Record companies subpoenaed over digital music pricing

December 27, 2005

On Friday Warner Music Group announced that it had been subpoenaed by the office of New York Attorney-General Eliot Spitzer to provide information about digital music download pricing. It has been reported that Sony BMG Music Entertainment and Vivendi Universal have also received subpoenas.

The subpoenas are thought to be connected to an antitrust investigation being carried out by New York Attorney-General Eliot Spitzer. The investigation is believed to be looking at whether Warner, Sony BMG, EMG and Universal have colluded to set wholesale song download pricing.

Will Tanous, speaking on behalf of Warner Music group said "As part of an industrywide investigation concerning pricing of digital music downloads, we received a subpoena from Attorney General Spitzer's office as disclosed in our public filings. We are cooperating fully with the inquiry."

It is also thought that the investigation may be due to the music industry wishing to renegotiate pricing with Apple over its iTunes online store. The record companies have indicated that they wish to begin variable pricing on music downloads. Apple currently sells songs for $US0.99 each.

In September, Warner CEO Edgar Bronfman told an investor conference that "not all songs are created equal ... There are some songs for which consumers would be willing to pay more and some we'd be willing to sell for less".


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Australia's richest man dies aged 68

December 27, 2005 The Nine Network has announced the death of one of Australia's richest men, Kerry Packer, aged 68.

Announcer Richard Wilkins said on the Today Show that he had just been handed official confirmation of Mr Packer's death at 68.

He said a statement from Tony Ritchie, Nine head of news, said: "Mrs Kerry Packer and her children James and Gretel sadly report the passing last evening of her husband and their father Kerry. He died peacefully at home with his family at his bedside".

Packer was the major shareholder in Publishing and Broadcasting Limited (PBL) which owns the Nine television network and Australian Consolidated Press, the producer of many Australian and New Zealand magazines.

Packer was also involved in the gambling and tourism industries and owned the Crown Casino in Melbourne.

In the 1970s, his World Series Cricket revolutionised cricket, bringing One-day cricket to the fore by introducing things such as coloured uniforms, white balls & day/night matches.

Business Review Weekly magazine estimated Packer's net worth at AU$6.5 billion in 2004. Another famous rich Australian media magnate, who may have lost his Australian nationality, is Rupert Murdoch.

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