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US televangelist Pat Robertson apologizes for assassination remark

August 25, 2005

Pat Robertson, the televangelist founder of the conservative Christian Broadcasting Network and host of The 700 Club, has apologized for his earlier controversial statement. After initially denying that he called for the assassination of Hugo Chávez, the President of Venezuela, he later apologized for the remark:

"Is it right to call for assassination? No, and I apologize for that statement", said Robertson.

On Wednesday, he initially denied having called for Chavez to be killed and said The Associated Press had misinterpreted his remarks.

"I didn't say 'assassination.' I said our special forces should 'take him out,'" Robertson said on his show. "'Take him out' could be a number of things including kidnapping."

Related news

 * Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson calls for assassination of Venezuela's president, August 23, 2005


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Why I made a new article
I had considered updating the original article on the assassination remarks with the apology, instead of adding a new article, but decided that this is "new news" so should be a new article. Rather than repeat all the info from the previous article, I just provided a link to it, however, to avoid duplication of effort. StuRat 20:29, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

I reckon the right thing to do in a case like this is add the new information to the original article, AND create a new article. Regular readers of the site are not going to keep checking articles they have already read for new information, so if something new has occurred, it should get a new article. - Borofkin 02:27, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree that it should stay it's own article. But try to add some more to the article, right now it seems cluttered with pictures :) --Mrmiscellanious 20:32, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

 * It wouldn't be cluttered if the picture of Pat Robertson wern't so frigging huge. Maybe we could just use a smaller picture of him?  I'm not sure there will be any more worth adding to this article. As to wether it should stay its own article, that depends on how much time elapsed between the two.  If it was yesterday or the day before, one could probably get away with just changing the old article, AND changing its title.  But as the old one is about to dispear off the front page, its worth addding a new one.  Alternatively, one could consider pulling some stunt where the old one poped up to more recently, but I can't really grok when that would be preferable to just making a new small article.  134.214.102.33 14:58, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I think changing the date would be appropriate for a continuously developing story, say the hostage crisis in Beslan, Russia. Adding new info each day and updating the date probably would have been the right way to handle that, until the crisis ended. StuRat 22:03, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I think the best idea would be to create a new article for each new event. -- NGerda 22:08, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Correct. -- NGerda 22:17, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

 * Agreed. In the case above, I would not have considered "Day 2 of Beslan Hostage Crisis" to be a new event. StuRat 22:11, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

 * There, I played with the image sizes. I think it's a little better now.  What you guys think? --Yarvin 15:09, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I added a link from that article to this one, so I don't have to repeat the info here. That would mean every change would then have to take place in both articles, which would be bad. StuRat 02:35, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Yep, however I think that an article as recent as the other one should be updated with the new information. I've added a single sentence about the apology, with a link to this article. - Borofkin 04:44, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I wonder if the article should include news relating to the US law against threatening our own president?(section below)Otherwise, I, myself,can't see an apology by this kook being a news story in its own right. Paulrevere2005 12:53, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

It's news article for two reasons: StuRat 22:45, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * He has been an advisor to the President.
 * We published the original remark, so it's only fair to publish the apology/retraction.

Hypocrisy abounds in "police states"
"S.C. Man Charged with Threatening the President’s Safety For Holding Protest Sign" [] [] Paulrevere2005 12:53, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Paul, might want to check on that. I'm seeing a lot of artilces saying he has previously trespassed many times for doing this, and I doubt ALL he was doing was holding a sign.  Remember, verbal threats are still considered threatening in a court of law.  --Mrmiscellanious 22:28, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * MrM; I can't figure out why anyone would assume that the guy charged was doing more than holding a sign? Why not just check it out? Anyway, here are the latest developments(that I could find) regarding the sign holder;
 * "May 27, 2005 SC Free Speech Case Heard in Fourth Circuit Appeals Court.Calling the case "an uncommonly silly prosecution by the government," Judge Diana Gribbon Motz today admonished the South Carolina lawyer prosecuting a protester arrested during President Bush's visit to Columbia in October 2002.The three-judge panel heard arguments in the case against Brett Bursey, who was originally charged with trespassing on public property in a crowd of ticket-holders to the president's fundraiser at the airport. Five months later those charges were dropped, but federal charges were levied not long after against Bursey for violating the statute governing "presidential assassinations, kidnappings and threats." This followed Bursey's refusal to retreat with his "No War for Oil" sign to a "Free Speech Zone" a half-mile away.The charges alleged, and the lower courts agreed, that Bursey "knowingly and willfully entered into, and refused to leave, an area secured by the Secret Service" and upheld a $500 fine. Bursey has argued that he was arrested for trespassing on public property and was never told that was in a federally restricted area."The Secret Service has been enforcing the law in favor of those who support the President while keeping those who oppose the administration's policies away from the President as well as the media," said Jeff Fogel, Bursey's attorney and Legal Director of the Center for Constitutional Rights in New York.Co-counsel Lewis Pitts said, "The significance of this case is that, if upheld, it will give the Secret Service legal cover for their presently unconstitutional practice of insuring that presidential protesters are out of sight."An opinion likely will not be rendered for months. If they lose in the Fourth Circuit, Bursey and his attorneys said that they will appeal to the US Supreme Court.[] Paulrevere2005 01:00, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * The reason he was arrested had nothing to do with the sign he was holding, it was because he was in a secured area too close to the President. Had he been out to kill the President, he could have posed a threat.  Is it your proposal that everyone should be allowed to walk right up to US Presidents when they are in public ?  I don't really think you want that, because then Dick Cheney would take over after Bush gets killed, and he is even worse (no-bid Haliburton contracts, secret energy policy meetings with oil company execs, etc.). StuRat 05:33, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * This ia a good source I think;[]. Didn't you also think that all of America is a "free speech zone"? I did. Paulrevere2005 19:28, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, all of America is a "free speech zone". That was a rather clumsy euphemism for the designated protest area. StuRat 00:14, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

M&M and Bob Dylan lyrics will get you 5 years
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I guess we lost it while we weren't paying attention...like right about now. Paulrevere2005 01:48, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, now that I look further, it's even worse than I thought.Now you can be locked up for singing M&M or Bob Dylan songs. So much for freedom in the USA.

We don't want him assasinated, we just want him dead
Damn televangelists. We don't want the dictator assasinated (martyrized), we just want him six feet under and afar. Daniel 15:00, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

 * He's not a dictator, he won an election there. StuRat 21:55, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Did he win HERE? I'm not quite so sure. Do you actually know what a fraud is? Do you know how elections are managed under dictatorship? You self-righteous gringos really don't know a thing about being free or being a slave, about being feed or being hungry. Come here please, and see for yourself the Chávez you seem to enjoy so much from your cozy home in the Civilized First World. Also, your sad "election" argument won't please the other whiners in this page. Your beloved Bush also won elections as President and Governor; his dad won as President and Vice-President o Ronnie Reagan, his brother(s) did too, etc., just as Castro, Pol Pot, Stalin and Hitler and Chávez all got "elected". Sad, sad logic of yours. Daniel 15:04, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I didn't say anyone who wins an election is good, just that they are not a dictator. That word refers to those who gain or keep power through military means, not those who win an election.  If he cancels elections, then you can correctly call him a dictator.  As for your allegations that the election was rigged, do you have any OBJECTIVE evidence (that is, NOT provided by the loser) ?  If you do have such evidence, it would make a good news story here.  From Wikipedia: "Although the opposition charged that there was widespread fraud in the recall vote, international observers said the official results matched their counts at polling sites."  Also, please refrain from using derogatory terms like "gringo". StuRat 18:57, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

What I find enlightening about our so-called "freedom" in America; is that if Daniel(above) was referring to President Bush, he could be locked up for 5 years. [] Paulrevere2005 01:00, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, Chávez just kills us, although he just locked up my brother. And believe me, no Venezuelan prison is an American prison. Daniel 15:04, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * What ever happened to good old fashioned revolutions like the one we had in 1776? If the Venezuelans don't like their government that much; then they should just overthrow it themselves...and do what the French did with the Bastille. That's my opinion, and also, unless you've been a non-gang member in a Texas prison; you may have absolutely no idea what you're talking about re; American prisons, from what I've read.Paulrevere2005 19:50, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I, for one, don't think anyone should have the "freedom of speech" right to call for killing anyone in this country. If someone was trying to get a lynch mob together to kill you, I bet you would want them locked up. StuRat 05:39, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * The point to me is how hypocritically one-sided it is. It's not a crime for Americans to call for the killing of foreign leaders; but it is a crime to sing a new M&M song or an old Bob Dylan tune(see subject above). Paulrevere2005 19:42, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, they have laws about such things, but they don't seem to lock up those people posting pictures of abortion doctors. Why should there be a diffrent standard for the president than for anyone else?  Imagine a hypothetical site with a threatening list of "prominent pro-abortion (or gay rights) politicians".  I expect that: (a) It would be shut down, but (b) its maintainer would not be jailed, unless (c) a president was put on the list.  Seems quite hypocritical.  - Nyarlathotep 14:35, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree with you there, we shouldn't have "special classes" of people who have more protection under the laws than others. In some states, there are harsher penalties for killing police than ordinary citizens, for example.  Unfortunately, the "equal protection under the law" clause doesn't seem to be fully enforced by the Supreme Court in the US.  StuRat 17:27, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

"Take him out"
Robertson's assertion that this didn't mean assassination is rather funny. I'm surprised he didn't claim he meant they should take him out on a date, LOL. StuRat 00:19, 30 August 2005 (UTC)


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Swedish Wikipedia reaches 100,000 articles

August 27, 2005

The Swedish language edition of the multilingual Wikipedia project passed 100,000 articles this evening at 18:11 CEST. Swedish is the fifth language to reach this milestone, joining English, French, German, and Japanese.

The article growth was quite modest when 100 articles remained, but at 18:09, with less than 50 articles left, people started submitting a lot of articles. Most of them were written in advance, according to visitors at the IRC channel. The 100,000th article is believed to be about a minister of the Faroe Islands, Jógvan við Keldu, according to announcement pages on the site minutes after the milestone was passed. Some concerns were raised, however, and a Wikipedian claimed on the village pump that the article Epiglottal klusil ("linguistic subject") was number 100,000.

The Swedish edition is said to have been started in May 2001, but didn't see much growth until November 2002 when several contributors arrived. The 50,000 mark was passed less than a year ago.

The Swedish Wikipedia operates using the same basic principles as its larger English language sister edition, which include writing from a Neutral Point of View and making content open using the GNU Free Documentation License.

The size is quite large compared to the number of speakers of Swedish worldwide (about 9 million). The Swedish edition is larger than some languages with hundreds of millions of speakers such as Spanish, Portuguese, Chinese and Hindi. The reason for this is somewhat obscure, but discussions on the central discussion forum of the site, Bybrunnen (a literal translation of "village pump"), say this is because articles are considerably shorter than on other Wikipedias and that the Internet connectivity is very high in Sweden. Other Wikipedias for languages spoken in Northern Europe (including Norwegian, Danish and Finnish) also have a high number of articles compared to the number of speakers.


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This story is prepared for release when Swedish Wikipedia hits the 100,000 mark. However, I'm not convinced that this event is "news-worthy". Because of this I've been advised to add a "flag" here and ask for comments. Väsk 21:32, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I think this story will be newsworthy. -- IlyaHaykinson 06:38, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

The Swedish Wikipedia village pump now seems unanimous that Jógvan við Keldu (politician, Faroe Islands) was article 100,000 and not that other linguistic topic. My suggestion is to drop the section of this news item that speculates on why the Swedish Wikipedia is so big, since there are no hard facts to report anyway. Alternatively the fast growth can be attributed to something vague, like "a strong community and high Internet penetration". However, such a statement could hardly be backed by facts. --LA2 19:43, 27 August 2005 (UTC)


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Americans are getting fatter, not-for-profit's report finds

August 25, 2005

An American not-for-profit organisation has released statistics that show that obesity rates rose last year in all but one state.

According to the Trust for America’s Health the only state not to see a rise was Oregon, which remained at the same level. In ten states more than a quarter of adults are defined as being obese: Mississippi, Alabama, West Virginia, Louisiana, Tennessee, Texas, Michigan, Kentucky, Indiana, and South Carolina. Mississippi is the heaviest state, while Colorado is the lightest.

In total 119 million Americans - some 65% of the population - now have a body weight that rates them as being overweight or heavier. In 2004 24.5% of the population was rated as being obese - up from 23.7% the year before. Even in the military, 16% of personnel are obese.

The U.S. Department of Health has a target of reducing obesity in adults to 15% or less by 2010. Critics say federal programs to combat the issue are too limited and that urban planning is not helping.


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User:DardanAeneas

Hello, I'm Tom von Clef
and this is my user page. I'm a new Wiki user.

I live in Knoxville, Tennessee.

You could visit my homepage, but there's not much there yet either.

Find my other wiki user pages at Wikipedia and Meta-Wiki. Or not.

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Iberia burning: forest fires rage across Portugal

August 26, 2005

In Portugal, which is suffering its worst drought since 1945, some 1,500 firefighters and 600 soldiers battled forest fires that have raged for six days.They said cooler temperatures and higher air humidity levels helped them to contain more than a dozen fires but the risk of new ones remained high. Five fires were still burning out of control in the thick-wooded center and north of the country, down from 21 on Tuesday. The largest fire was raging in a forest near Coimbra, Portugal's third-largest city and forced the evacuation of around 60 people from a village near the central town of Penela but firefighters saw hope. "The intensity of the fire is diminishing considerably. Let's see if we are a bit luckier today," the fire chief of Penela, Mario Lourenco, told radio TSF. Neighboring Spain, too, has this week battled blazes in the north that have so far destroyed more than 19,000 hectares (46,800 acres) this month.


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Protests over UK preparations to deport Kurd Iraqi asylum seekers

August 30, 2005

Refugee groups and protesters in the United Kingdom are concerned over plans to forcibly deport around 20 rejected asylum seekers to Northern Iraq from the detention centres where they are currently being held beginning August 28.

Despite a warning by the UN High Commission for Refugees that no part of Iraq is now safe, the Home Office is reported to be sending the men back as soon as 28 August in an Iraqi military aeroplane. Paul Kessler of UNHCR has said that kidnappings and other security problems are still common in Northern Iraq.

Returns to Iraq had been voluntary, but according to The Times around 100 rejected asylum seekers have been arrested and are now in detention.

Demonstrations have been held across the country and are expected outside the Home Office today, 26 August.

A spokesperson for the Refugee Council said: "It is one thing for people to return voluntarily and accept the risk. But there seems to be no urgent reason to remove people now. Iraq is in a state of turmoil."

The Home Office has not yet commented on the case. They have previously backed down under pressure. Zimbabwean asylum seekers were given amnesty from deportation until October following headlines such as that on the front page of right-wing Daily Mail "For pity's sake, let them stay".


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Montreal lab questions ethics of recent EPO doping claims against Lance Armstrong

August 26, 2005

Dr. Christiane Ayotte is Doping Control director at Canada's Institut National de la Recherché Scientifique, which is a World Anti-doping Agency (WADA) certified lab. Dr. Ayotte said on Tuesday (Aug. 23) that three ethically critical, and important, scientific questions were raised by a four-page doping allegation in the French cycling daily L'Équipe. L'Équipe released lab data with a medical identification allegedly finding banned EPO in five year old samples of cyclist Lance Armstrong's urine, originally taken after he won the 1999 Tour de France.

Ayotte expressed surprise that chemical testing of 1999 urine could have been done in 2004 at the French national anti-doping laboratory at Châtenay-Malabry. She said that she routinely instructs all doping laboratory organizations that EPO deteriorates and disappears after two or three months, even if the urine is frozen. Ayotte does not question whether the new type of analysis is correct; rather she questions the ethics of long-delayed test results.

The first ethical problem, in her opinion, is that an adverse finding cannot be confirmed with second samples, as required by WADA regulations. She states that there are normally two samples, "A" and "B". The Châtenay-Malabry EPO findings were based on Armstrong's "B" samples. Armstrong's "A" samples were depleted in 1999 for tests that did not include EPO, because no EPO test was available that year.

French Sports Minister Jean-François Lamour said that without the "A" samples, no disciplinary action could be taken against Armstrong.

The second ethical problem, in Ayotte's view, is that an athlete charged with doping long after the athletic event has no way to submit to additional testing to disprove an adverse finding.

The third ethical problem for Ayotte is that L'Équipe disclosed Armstrong's medical identity. "It seems to me," Ayotte continued, "that this whole thing is breach of the WADA code. We are supposed to work confidentially until such time that we can confirm a result. By no means does this mean that we sweep a result under the carpet, but it has to meet a certain set of requirements."

Ayotte continued, "I'm worried, because I have a great deal of respect for my colleagues in Paris. I am concerned that they did not cover their backs before being dragged into a very public issue of this kind."

Lance Armstrong has responded on his website, branding L'Équipe's reporting as being "nothing short of tabloid journalism." Armstrong says: "I will simply restate what I have said many times: I have never taken performance[-]enhancing drugs."

Further confusing public understanding of the EPO doping claim is Armstrong's statement in his autobiography, It's Not About the Bike: he said he received EPO during his cancer chemotherapy treatment. "It was the only thing that kept me alive," he wrote.

Jean-Marie Leblanc, the director of the Tour de France, said that Armstrong owes cycling fans an explanation. Leblanc said; "For the first time—and these are no longer rumors, or insinuations, these are proven scientific facts—someone has shown me that in 1999, Armstrong had a banned substance called EPO in his body."


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 * I'm almost certain this was done by a bot. Those IPs always spam on the same page, at the exact same spot. If you look at this history it seems prettly clear. No human would do such a thing. --Deprifry 14:00, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:Haakon~enwikinews

Just in case you haven't been welcomed yet :) ...

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Your username...
Howdy, once again, welcome to Wikinews! Your username is interesting -- it reminds me of my days on LambdaMOO.... Are you at all familiar with LambdaMOO? Surely you're not Haakon, the wizard?

Let me know if I can assist you or answer any questions here. --Chiacomo (talk) 05:29, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank you, both ClareWhite and Chiacomo. As for my username, no, I'm not familiar with LambdaMOO. Haakon is my first name, and an ancient Norwegian name at that. :-) Haakon 10:06, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

remove all the commented sources

 * why did you remove all the commented sources? they were place their so editors could see them. iv out them back in for now ok, Thank you for editing my grammar :) --Whywhywhy 12:34, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

 * They weren't "sources", they were material copied verbatim from sources, in violation of copyright. Since they weren't visible in the article it probably wasn't a huge deal, but it seems to me it's better to just link to source articles. Good article, by the way :-) Haakon 08:58, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Montreal lab questions ethics of recent EPO doping claims against Lance Armstrong

I don't have enough knowledge about this subject to be able to comment on the story as a whole, but I would definitely suggest removing this final sentence: 'That opens a logical question. If lab Châtenay-Malabry has developed extremely sensitive detection for the presence of EPO, they must also deny the possibility that they detected residual traces of EPO, which Armstrong was given during chemotherapy prior to 1999.' - simply because 'original' speculation isn't allowed on Wikinews. It looks like a pretty thorough story to me though, hopefully Mrmiscellanious will help with more advice if needed. One thing: you don't need to be too hasty to publish or offended if people give you criticism, that's the whole point here! ClareWhite 13:54, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

This story should not have listed sources which were not used in the story; nor should Ayotte's opinions about ethics be reported as 1-3 factoids.I have tried to NPOV the article but the entire thrust of it seems to be POV from a party that has no detailed info about the test that was performed, hence her need to speculate and make assumptions in the text I removed. This is an article looking for a tag; imo. Neutralizer 19:57, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments.

1) All four sources cited were used for facts cited in the story, and indeed they are required by Wikinews policy. I have no idea why the orginal IP-identified commenter wrote that they weren't used, but it's just not so. It may be true that only ONE fact came from a particular source, and that it would take a reviewer a long time to locate that one fact in a lengthy source article, but I followed policy and cited all my sources.

2) Dr. Christiane Ayotte is a world class expert in a field of sport doping detection science that is thoroughly understood by only a relative handful of people in the world. She is what the court system calls an expert witness, and courts treat such opinions as the next closest things to facts. She is also an expert in WADA rules of ethics, as she must follow them on a daily basis. Again only a few dozens of people in the world have to do this. Furthermore, she and her colleagues are trusted by global sports authorities in both matters of science and regulations.

3) "'That opens a logical question. If lab Châtenay-Malabry has developed extremely sensitive detection for the presence of EPO, they must also deny the possibility that they detected residual traces of EPO, which Armstrong was given during chemotherapy prior to 1999.'" This is a logical question obviously raised by the facts at hand. On the other hand speculation is suggesting something not supported by facts, like 'Lance won so he must have been using drugs'. Is there a Wikinews policy of not raising logical questions or drawing logical conclusions?

4) The story has now been inverted to conclude with Jean-Marie Leblanc's claim that Armstrong's guilt has been thoroughly branded by science. I wrote this piece to tell the other side of the story.

This story was quite difficult to research and write. It involves a complex interplay among global elites, sports, cutting edge science, and tabloid smear journalism, and possibly nationalistic interests. I have reluctantly concluded that Wikinews is not a suitable forum for such complex stories. I wish to withdraw the story. Milomedes 23:29, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

 * You have to have a thick skin to publish here, as you will be attacked even for claiming the sky is blue, LOL. I don't think it's fair to withdraw the story now, as many other's have contributed to it. It has been published, and looks to be in good shape to me. StuRat 06:47, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

I liked Milomedes' question. Can we put it back in? -- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 12:41, August 27, 2005 (UTC)


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UK study claims men have higher average I.Q. than women

August 27, 2005

In a study accepted for publication by the British Journal of Psychology, Dr. Paul Irwing (Manchester Business School, Senior Lecturer in Organizational Psychology) and Prof. Richard Lynn (University of Ulster, Professor Emeritus) conclude that men are on average five points ahead on IQ tests. The study also found that men outnumbered women in increasing numbers as intelligence levels rise. There were twice as many with IQ scores of 125, a level typical for people with first-class degrees. When scores rose to 155, a level associated with genius, there were 5.5 men for every woman.

Professor Lynn has a number of previous articles arguing that there are differences in intelligence between racial groups. In a 2003 study, he found a correlation between average IQ and prosperity in 60 countries. In a letter to The Psychologist, Professor Lynn claimed “Men have larger brains than women by about 10% and larger brains confer greater brain power, so men must necessarily be on average more intelligent than women.” Most psychologists view brain size as less significant than numerous other gender differences. One reason brain size may not be significant is that the majority of the brain is not involved in "providing intelligence" but rather performs mundane tasks; such as regulating pulse and breathing, processing inputs from the five senses, and providing redundancy in case of brain damage. Larger brains may contain more space devoted to such functions, and the same or even less space devoted to intelligence. Colloquially, elephants and whales have brains many times the size of the human brain, yet do not appear to be more intelligent.

Earlier this year, the president of Harvard University, Lawrence Summers, sparked a controversy when he suggested that "intrinsic aptitude" was responsible for the low numbers of women at the top in many fields, especially in science and engineering. In response to Summers comment, Stephen Pinker and Elizabeth Spelke held a debate on the conclusions which can be drawn from the extensive existing scientific research on gender differences. Spelke held that discrimination remained the primary factor keeping women from going into physics, mathematics, and computer science; while Pinker suggested that life choices were more important today. This debate is considered an exceptionally good introduction to the subject for lay-persons.

Several subtle points popularized by the Pinker vs. Spelke debate are relevant to the Irwing & Lynn study. First, females benefit significantly from single sex education, but single sex education has little impact upon males. As a consequence, the Irwing & Lynn study can not lay claim to a biological difference in intelligence, unless it restricts itself to women attending all girls schools. Secondly, the process of natural selection leads males of any species to have more variance in most traits. As a result, Stephen Pinker suggests that one should find "more geniuses and more idiots" among human males (see Pinker slide 41). As a consequence, any omission of people at the lower end of the IQ spectrum would bias the average male IQ upward, relative to the average female IQ.

Neither Pinker nor Spelke suggests brain size is particularly important. However, both agree that men and women have different mental strengths and even handle various mental tasks differently. Both see these differences as an asset to the scientific community.

IQ tests have been criticized for testing how similar a person's thought processes are to the author of the tests, primarily men, rather than how intelligent they are. In particular, some tests have been biased towards thought processes where males are dominant, such as 3D spatial rotation and visualization. Tests devised by females would be more likely to emphasize female strengths, such as computation and communication. Many modern IQ tests attempt to control for gender differences by including more questions targeted at female strengths. However, such efforts are hampered by the lack of a clear definition of intelligence.


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Talk:UK study claims men have higher average I.Q. than women

Alright, I focused on the Pinker vs. Spelke aspect because, on such matters, their debate is by far the most informative thing on the internet, and anyone who cares should read/see it. No doubt, someone else will wish to expand the first paragraph slightly before publishing. Due to lack of a preprint of the article, I was forced to present the standard objections to the study as hypotheticals. -- 134.214.102.33 16:03, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Oops, forgot to login to write it. :) -- Nyarlathotep 16:07, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Women "unsuitable"?
It is not true that Summers "suggested that women were unsuitable as scientific researchers." He never came close to that. He didn't even "suggest" that women are less suitable. Instead he suggested the possibility that one factor causing women to be less accomplished, prominent or advanced in academic rank on average could be an inherent average inferiority in certain salient cognitive abilities and that this is worthy of scientific exploration. At the time he said this he also said he was being provocative. I think that meant that he knew this was a touchy and politically charged area and that he thought it a good idea to encourage free discussion and reduce the chilling effect of the current "liberal" tendency to deny that there may actually be meaningful differences between groups of people who currently face unfair discrimination. Summers spent more political capital than he anticipated on making his remarks and triggered severe personal attacks on his presidency of Harvard. The current wording of the Wikinews article misrepresents Summers' position and is inflammatory. Taken literally, it has him suggesting that no woman should be employed in scientific research because all women are "unsuitable" (whatever unsuitable means). In a news article, "suggested" tends to imply "posited" or "asserted", as if merely raising an idea is equivalent not only to endorsing but even to promoting it. That may, indeed be the way the politicians work, but this article is about a scientific study published in a high-quality peer-reviewed journal and Wikinews should not contribute to the angry misinterpretations and exaggerations that are likely to explode in popular news media. I'd rather not tinker with the article without first reading the source material, but I hope whoever wrote about Summers (Nyarlathotep ?) repairs the defect quickly. Mpulier 09:40, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * fixed Nyarlathotep 10:24, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia
Ho do I make external reference links which are not sources? Nyarlathotep 10:29, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * If you would like to link to Wikipedia just use: link text . If you want to add external links or references, just add a ==External references== or ==External links== section. --Dčabrilo 10:55, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Strengths
StuRat, I appreciate that you fear "male strengths" is biased, but I feel your sentence "Tests devised by females would be more likely to emphasize female strengths, such as communication skills." paints females strengths as "not intelligence". Females are also better at computation, so I'll switch it to that. Sadly, computation does not truly strike me as intelligence either. I wish some researcher would popularize a female strength which was undeniably intelligence. Linguistic thought? Algebra? Or even just ame these nebulous "female spacial skills" which they always talk about. For now, I'll be happy with the fact that "rotation and visualization" don't sound much like intelligence either. Spelke doesn't believe any of these gifts have much bearing on intelligence per se. I'm not sure Pinker feels they mater either, but he does feel they have bearing on early life choices. Maybe keeping girls in an all girl class allows them to "use and transcend" their gifts; in the same way that males are able to do in a mixed gender class. - Nyarlathotep 21:13, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

UNACCEPTABLE
This article should not exist. You are fanning the flames of sexism, and it makes me sick. If the KKK announced a new 'study' that said that white people are superior, they would be ignored. We will not tolerate this crap! We made Harvard change their sexist ways! Shame on all of you for hyping some 'scientific' study! This is not science, it's sexism!
 * Ah well. Have a cup of tea. Dan100 (Talk) 21:28, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

More geniuses and more idiots
From the article: ''As a result, Stephen Pinker suggests that one should find "more geniuses and more idiots" among human males (see Pinker slide 41). As a consequence, any omission of people at the lower end of the IQ spectrum would bias the average male IQ upward.''

This statement is somewhat misleading: it's obvious that omitting samples below the (previous) average will increase the (new) average. What's significant, though, is that people with an IQ less than [???] are perhaps more likely to be excluded from a scientific study. (It's highly unlikely that severely mentally impaired persons are included, for example). This in turn, would increase the estimated male average.

It should also be mentioned that this effect has nothing to do with the study's claims regarding relative amount of people with IQ higher than [???].

-- Woseph 08:09, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

 * It has a lot to do with the studies claims about high IQ people, as the study isn't as scientifically interesting if such claims just follow from the bell curve. The authors just gave the newspapers some inflamator soundbites, they didn't say if these soundbites were just the ordinary  statistical conclusions you expect.  It should also be mentioned that small biases in the IQ test would magnify at the higer intelligences. Nyarlathotep 17:48, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Do you mean that omitting people with IQ less than [something] has a lot to do with the study's claims regarding high-IQ people? I don't see why: if you want to make claims about high-IQ people (such as comparing men and women), you are free to ignore low-IQ people. It's true that, assuming a Gaussian or just an eventually decreasing distribution, a difference in average IQ itself implies a difference in relative amount of people with IQ higher than [something sufficiently large]. However the argument in the article, as I read it, tried to explain why the true average IQ for men and women might very well be the same (without making a statement about the variance). -- Woseph 19:36:21, 2005-08-28 (UTC)

 * What article? The debate?

 * The article this talk page is about, and with "the argument in the article" I meant the quote at the start of this section ("As a result, ..."). The argument was made better (stronger) with the addition you just recently made, but it might still not be clear to the reader why low-IQ people would be omitted in the first place. -- Woseph 16:04:24, 2005-08-29 (UTC)

New title
I agree that equating "I.Q." with "intelligence" can be considered incorrect/controversial (despite the definition of "I.Q."). However, the new title UK study claims men have higher average I.Q. than women only describes "half" of the study: it doesn't mention that there's a higher degree of men with IQ higher than 125 and 155. How about: UK study claims men have higher I.Q. than women, which at the cost of being somewhat imprecise doesn't neglect part of the study. -- Woseph 15:53:31, 2005-08-28 (UTC)


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thanks and what is the major edit symbol so more articles can go under this??? since no under construction?
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User talk:67.163.194.6

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User talk:Milomedes~enwikinews

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Proposing articles
This is a guideline for proposing an article. Go here. It addresses most, if not all of your concerns. --SVTCobra 00:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Quoted from User talk:SVTCobra:
 * "This is a guideline for proposing an article. ...--SVTCobra" I did see that page, and quickly determined that I did not have time to propose an article. I was getting ready to depart when I saw on the main page an alternative as follows:

 * "Start a new article ... To report on a news event, check if it is already being covered. If not, write a quick brief or enter a good headline below to start a full article. "

 * I entered the headline as it says. Now, if that's wrong, and just entering a headline isn't welcome, then the main page needs to be clarified to reflect actual policy. Quoted timestamp: Milo 01:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

 * No, you didn't do anything wrong. That's why your article is still in the Newsroom as "developing" and not "disputed." I have even added a source myself. But now that you are back online, perhaps you can add to your article. --SVTCobra 01:34, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops, Thunderhead has nominated your article for deletion. --SVTCobra 01:43, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll go ahead and try to clean up the article. I thought it was a copy of something else we already had.  Thunderhead  ►  01:46, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

 * "No, you didn't do anything wrong. ...--SVTCobra" Thanks, glad to hear it. Milo 18:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Your question
I've replied here: Wikinews_talk:Welcommittee.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 13:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Milomedes. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Milomedes~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:21, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:34, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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User talk:203.78.110.26

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User talk:65.95.151.204

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User talk:68.12.127.104

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User talk:64.53.254.56

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User talk:81.188.2.90

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User talk:207.200.116.196

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User:207.200.116.196/Elements of the Mossad are Terrorists
I moved your essay from the main namespace because it does not appear to be a news story. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 08:51, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with Amgine,this is a news source not a blog.PVJ[[Image:Flag of India.svg|25px]] 16:49, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:64.220.173.243

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User talk:69.225.64.173

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User talk:193.251.149.11

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User talk:67.71.121.121

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User talk:202.54.51.5

Welcome
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User talk:70.21.34.217

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User talk:67.170.100.156

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User talk:68.3.17.179

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User talk:24.13.78.4

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User talk:198.246.7.254

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User talk:65.104.2.15

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User talk:81.214.161.80

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 * Introduction - overview of the site
 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
 * Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
 * Style guide - how articles should look before publishing
 * Contents - the contents page.
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * Audio Wikinews could always use more contributors
 * And of course, stories need writing!

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