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When can we have peace?

sweet russia rules! take that you US lapdog —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.45.138 (talk) 20:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

 * mother Russia; destroying a democracy near you.--65.2.142.97 21:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Georgia a democracy? Don't make me laugh. Remember that Saakashvili was elected with 95% support - just 4% short for Saddam Hussein! Remember 2007 protests violently supressed by police. Remember the murder of Zurab Zhvania. Remember the arrest of Irakli Okruashvili. Remember the Imedi channel raided down by riot police when it became critical on president. I wouldn't say Russia is heaven and Georgia is hell, but the situation with democracy in Georgia is obviously worse. USA just covers Saakashvili because he promises loyalty.--Beaumain (talk) 21:11, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

 * better then you can say for Russia who leader was hand pick by Putin and anyone that question Putin is killed. And if you want freedom you town is destory look what happen to Chechens Russia is a hippocrate and lair all they want is to reestablish their former power in the region.--66.229.12.186 22:11, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Yes... Georgia is a "beautiful" democracy, full of butterflies, singing birds and a lot of happiness... It's one of the best places in the World to live. Of course, by these standards, that would make the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany the best places in the World to live too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.108.231 (talk) 21:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

 * The "democratic" governments of Russia and Georgia both have their flaws. Anyhow, hopefully the international pressure on Russia will deter it from advancing further into Georgia.--TBC (talk) 01:39, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

McCain Adviser Was Lobbyist for Georgia?
Wall Street Journal say, John McCain's top foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, was a paid lobbyist for the Georgia. It explains MC's striking pro-Georgian sentiment. MC will lose many points on it. --Beaumain (talk) 00:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * no i think Obama will lost points for calling it out and instead of telling Russia to get out of sovereign nation.--KDP3 (talk) 02:21, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm Russian, and our leaders are insane. We don't need this war. It's not our land there, and it's not our people - why are we sending our soldiers to die because of it? We kept saying that it was a "peacekeeping" operation, but now that it's a full-scale ground invasion, it's beyond even what NATO did with Serbia over Kosovo... and anyway, let Americans play peacekeepers rather - they have the men, the guns, and the desire. We have our own problems to take care of. 81.5.111.101 05:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Russia must Sign peace if they want to show they didn't come to invade
Ossetia wants peace Georgia (that's where I'm from) wants peace Russia wants peace

At the moment everyone (to my information) is holding their own territory with a few exceptions: Georgian towns are heavily bombed (although near military bases, but some civilian houses nearby were also badly damaged. (I want to believe that they just missed the target military base) But anyway, that's not something that we or Russians can correct right now.
 * Russia has advanced a few (or a few tens of) kilometers into Georgia from Ossetia, but haven't taken any Towns. This, they explain by the fact that Georgians were bombing them from these teritories. Even though this is a lie, since Georgians had sufficient wisdom to retreat and allow them to do this (so not much casualties) this is more or less acceptable
 * Russian peacekeepers (real ones, not the 58-th army) have entered cities of Zugdidi, Senaki and Poti in West Georgia outside any conflict zome. Russians have checked teritories for absence of army. And again, since Georgians did not have any army these and so, reportedly no casualties, and (as I'm hearing) upon discovering this Russians started to go back, (If this is all true) this can be seen as acceptable
 * Abkhazians with the help of Russians are bombing and attacking the Kodori region, which is located in Abkhazia, but populated by ethnic Georgians, so it Remained under Georgian control all the time from 1990. Now this is UNACCEPTABLE as it is the duty of Russian peacekeepers to keep peace between Georgian and Abkhazian ethnic people in the Region on Abkhazia. they were quick to state that they are defending one side against the agression of another one in Osetia, namely the Ossetian side. (Even though who began all this is dubious, and there are arguments that show it was not Georigans, I'll discuss this later) Now, why are they not so quick to defend the Kodori villages from Abkhazian agression? (in fact they are not only defending it, they are helping abkhazians) what's this all about? STOP IT.

Anyway, if Russia resolves the 3rd problem (the Kodori), than what's there to argue. Everyone says they want peace. But Georgians have signed peace and Russians have not. Doesn't this show that Russia has other aims, than peace. If they don't sign the peace Immediately and don't back their armies from all 3 advances out of conflict territory (ESPECIALLY THE KODORI) then doesn't this show that they had motives distinct from peace, when they were invading.

This version would also fit logically into everything Georgian side said.
 * Russians wanted to Attack (I don't know why exactly, possibly to gain villages populated with ethnic Georgians and thus remaining under Georgian control in One or Both regions of Abkhazia (that's Kodori) and S.Osetia (there are lots of such villages here as well) or for some other reasons). (This plan can be confirmed by the fact that there was a concentration of Army near the Georgian borders and Evacuation of Osetia started days before the war broke out)
 * Russians supplied weapons to separatists and encouraged to attack Georgia, promising that Russia would back them. (This is confirmed by S.Osetia's de facto president Kokoity's speech to his people, urging them to defend him because Russians have betraued him, which was published on August 8 in the morning, while Russia hadn't yet started military operations and expressed concern just by words)
 * Separatists started attacking/shelling Georigan villages and Army nearby S.Osetia to force Georgians to counterattack. These clashes and shelling were observed from Aug 1 to Aug 7 with various attempts from Georgia to ceasefire. With Separatists breaking the final ceasefire announced by Georgian president on the evening of Aug 7, Georgia decided to clean the region of separatists that were the cause of countinuous bombing. (It should be noted that with Russian Peacekeeping Army situated in S.Osetia it was their responsibility not to allow the fire from S.Osetian side, at which they failed badly. Georgia had no control of the region and thus to stop fire (which the peacekeepers didn't manage to do) the only choice was to regain control of it. which they did)
 * Russia, encouraging separatists to "defend" from Georgians, which caused casualties from both sides. (Although the cited number of 1400 by Kokoity seems deliberately and largely inflated to me) Casualties gave Russians a motiv they needed to invade.

Of course this all could be false. And it could be that it just nicely and very logically fits into eachother and actually the Russian version is true. As they say Georgians attacked and they had to respond to establish peace. But in the light of continued refusal to ceasefire it seems unlikely. And if now, when all Georgian forces are withdrawn from all disputed territories, the Russians will still refuse, what more arguments do you need?

Note: both sides have exaggerated some faces. (probably in equal measure). From my side I can acknowledge that some Georgians even claimed that Russian were advancing towards Tbilisi, which is not the case. I tried to portray everything as it is, without slightest exaggeration from us. You can probably see this from he way everything is presented in a calm way. And that I'm not claiming that they entered our towns and ate out children, or stupid things like that. Hope this convinces most, if not everyone and Sufficient pressure is exerted on Russia to sign peace, so that we can start negotiations.

 * President Medvedev has ordered all military actions to stop against Georgia, following an agreement. What is UNACCEPTABLE, my friend, was the attack by georgian forces of the town of Tsikhvali in South Ossetia. The russians warned the americans and the europeans, that they would respond this way, if Saakashvili was not kept in check. All of this could have happened without any bloodshed. It was not so, because the georgian government was allowed to do what it did. And this is true, because all of this is in the OSCE report. Say what you... Russia is Evil, they will eat your children and rape your women, etc. But the FACT is that Georgia started it, with the blessing of the US of A. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.242.244.102 (talk) 09:11, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I didn't say Russia was evil and was eating our children. I said I'm not saying that. And I'm sorry if someone is saying that about russians. People have exxagerated unfair behaviours. But If Russia wants to show everyone that it's just Protecting it's citizens then what are they doing in Kodori gorge? (a few hundreds of kilometers far away from conflict) this face is Unacceptable. If you believe that they are only protecting their citizens, I can't argue about this judging on their actions in S.Osetia. O.K. they are protecting them (I don't believe this, but I can't prove, so I'm quiet on this) But who are they protecting in Kodori gorge. Are they Protecting Svans (which are Georgian). Please explain, I can't see any explanation of this. And please think about this. I understand you support Russia as your country, I support Georgia as my country. But I still ask questions why they did what. And to your satisfaction I find lots of things they did wrong. But all we want now, is a fair trial (international peacekeepers) not biased trial (Russian peacekeepers). Do we want Georgian peacekeepers. No, we don't. So, please be fair and agree on that. If you don't like US because you think it's biased then you can reject their peacekeeping mission, but you should allow us to reject a side which we think is biased - Russia. I'm sure there's lots of countries in the world that would want to help out in this situation and provide peacekeepers. Georgia accepts almost anyone except for Russians. If russians accept at least someone (It doesn't have to be US, UK, anyone you think is biased) then the conflict is resolved.

 * The russians bombed everything they saw necessary to dismember the georgian military forces. Why did they bombed here and there? I don't know, only someone specialized in military strategy can explain. And there's also politics... Georgia and the US puppet Saakashvili must be humiliated. They also bombed some culturally important sites to hurt georgian pride and to make georgians scratch their heads about all of this. For example, yesterday, August 12th, mr. Saakashvili was speaking to "150.000" people, claiming victory against the Evil Russians. "We drove them back!" he said... Well, today, August 13th, the russians are roaming the streets close to Tblissi, for every georgian to see. The russians claim that their objective with this convoy is a military base outside Tblissi, where there are (they say) "tanks ready for battle". Well... something in my head says that what they really want, is to humiliate Saakashvili, after he declared victory the day before... Georgians will again scratch their heads and think: "if Saakashvili was right, and we beat the russians, what the hell is their army with heavy tanks doing in our streets?".
 * So you see, defending the russian population in South Ossetia, making a position on Abkhazia is not enough for them. They want to make a huge political statement... And for that to happen, they will humiliate Saakashvili and the americans very slowly, because they are enjoying every bit of it.

 * they took the port???--66.229.12.186 09:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Russian Audacity
The Russians have no right to enter Georgia on the suspicion of attacks on the Russian border.It is a human right violations.Russia shoeld refrain from screwing around with the smaller countries all around it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.240.178.85 (talk) 11:59, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Oh, there are many human rights violations in the World... For example, did you know that Ossetia (including South Ossetia) declared its independence way before Georgia declared its own indepedence? Do you know what happened back then? That was also a Human Rights violation, but many people kept silent about it... Another example would be the illegal Iraq invasion, the Guantanamo concentration camp, the secret CIA flights... So you see, there are many Human Rights violations, and Russia is not the only evildoer here, especially if you look back at the past week, and see who started the conflict by bombing and shelling a small city full of civilians... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.193.204.23 (talk) 14:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

 * The conflict did not start last week. Georgia was being shelled from the Russian controlled South Ossetia for weeks before. I wonder what the Russian "peacekeepers" were doing then. Lysy (talk) 07:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Well, then you should go and tell that to the OSCE presidency, because they didn't put that on their report. If you know more than them, you should give them that information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.243.116.213 (talk) 14:22, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * What makes you think OSCE did not know this ? Lysy (talk) 15:07, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Errrr... because they didn't mention it in their report? Or because their office in Tskhinvali was destroyed by georgian artillery? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.242.247.81 (talk) 17:47, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


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Commodities slide down, Indices edge up

Markets finished last week strongly, with many global indices finally break out the range they had been trading in since July. The Dow Jones Industrial average even managed to register two 300 point rallies in one week. Interest rate announcements dominated the headlines despite there being no surprises with the decisions to leave rates unchanged. The FOMC created the most excitement, when traders interpreted some of their remarks to mean that the expected rate hikes may take longer to materialise than previously expected. Markets rallied hard on the day as a result. However, as is often the case after an extreme move on a Fed day, markets moved back in the opposite direction the next day. While equity markets remain in tight trading ranges, major currency pairs experienced some dramatic moves. The EUR/ USD pair finally broke below the 1.53/ 1.60 range that it has been trading within since the Euro’s run up in February. The Euro slumped the most in more than four years against the Dollar, falling to nearly 1.5000. The GBP/ USD also broke below the 1.93 support level significantly for the first time in 2008, as more bad news about the UK economy hit the newswires. While a weak Euro added to the dramatic drop on Friday, the real driver with both these break outs, has been the resurgent Dollar. Commodities pulled back further last week on speculation that a global slowdown will check demand. Oil closed the week below $120, and Gold continued to fall well below $900, down to $863 on the week. A whole basket of commodities have now fallen back at around 20-40% from their peaks. Oil is close to being down 20% from its peak, natural gas close to registering a 40% drop, Wheat is down 35%, Corn 32%, and rice 30%. Many technical analysts consider a drop from a high of 20% or more officially a ‘bear market’. While a lot of attention has gone on the dramatic fall in equity prices, it is interesting to note that the commodity prices that have led directly to inflationary pressures are also in a bear market. However given the volatility of oil prices in particular, it would not take much for oil to claw back some of its recent losses.

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Olympic highlights: August 12, 2008

August 12, 2008

August 12, 2008 is the 4th main day of the 2008 Olympic games, the below article lists some of the highlights.

Men's 100m backstroke

American Aaron Peirsol set a new world record and won the gold medal in the final of the men's 100m backstroke with a time of 52.54 seconds.

Matt Grevers, who was representing the US with Peirsol, took the silver medal, while Arkady Vyatchanin and Hayden Stoeckel tied for third place with a time of 53.18.

Men's 200m freestyle

American Michael Phelps set a new world record and won the gold medal in the final of the men's 200m freestyle with a time of 1:42.96 minutes.

Taehwan Park, who was representing South Korea, finished in second place and set a new Asian record, while Peter Vanderkaay, who was representing the US with Phelps, finished in third place with a time of 1:45.14.

Phelps beat the old world record by almost one second. The Australian reported that Phelps 'shattered' the previous world record, which was also set by him.

Women's 100m breaststroke

Australian Leisel Jones won the gold medal and set a new Olympic record in the final of the women's 100m breaststroke with a time of 1:05.17 minutes.

"It has been a long journey. It's been a long eight years," said Jones, after her victory. "And I think just a lot of relief that the training was definitely worth it."

Rebecca Soni, who was representing United States, won the silver medal, while Mirna Jukic finished in third place with a time of 1:07.34.

Men's double trap

American Walton Eller set a new Olympic record in the qualification round of the men's double trap with a score of 145.

Francesco D Aniello, who was representing Italy, finished in second place, while Jeffrey Hologuin, who represented the US with Eller, finished in third place with a score of 140.

Men's 200m butterfly
American Michael Phelps set a new Olympic record when he finished in first place in heat six of the men's 200m butterfly with a time of 1:53.70. This record is one of several set by Phelps during the Olympic games.

Kaio Almeida, who was representing Brazil, finished in second place, while Takeshi Matsuda finished in third place with a time of 1:55.06, 1.36 seconds behind the time set by Phelps.

Women's 200m individual medley
Zimbabwean Kirsty Coventry set a new Olympic Record in semifinal of the women's 200m individual medley with a time of 2:09.53 minutes. Coventry's first fifty second were the quickest, with her first length taking only 29.17 seconds.

Stephanie Rice, who was representing Australia, finished in second place, while Katie Hoff finished in third place with a time of 2:10.90, just over one second behind the time achieved by Coventry.

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Russia withdraws from Georgia

August 12, 2008

Dmitry Medvedev, the President of Russia, announced the end of Russian military operations in Georgia. In a statement made earlier today, Medvedev declared that the reason for Russia to cease operations was the humanitarian crisis in the region.

A Kremlin spokesman confirmed the instructions to the Defense Ministry to stop the military operation. The news came only hours before the presidents of Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania and Estonia were scheduled to visit Tbilisi, and the president of France was to visit Moscow. Also the prime minister of Latvia is planned to visit Tbilisi later today.

Just before the announcement there were reports of the Russian forces bombing the Georgian town of Gori. The declaration of the Kremlin puts an end to the four-day Russian offensive inside Georgia.

On August 7, following days of fire exchange with South Ossetian separatist units, Georgia launched an offensive against Tskhinvali, the capital of the region. The next day Russian forces entered Georgia and began to bomb targets in the country.

On August 10, the Russian Black Sea Fleet began a naval blockade of the Poti Georgian port and landed several thousand Russian troops in Abkhazia in western Georgia. Ukraine threatened to bar Russian warships dispatched to the Abkhazian coast from returning to their Ukrainian base of Sevastopol if they were to engage in any military action.

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Rename?
The breaking news was that Russians announced their withdrawal, but with the time it's clear that they only stopped the offensive and declared the end of their military operations but are not withdrawing forces yet. Maybe rename the article ? Lysy (talk) 19:58, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

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If it's true then it is the first step too peace. --66.229.12.186 11:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Now that the crime has been commited
It is time for the ever lengthy court proceedings. 24.98.235.224 19:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

What crime? Georgia went in killing a few people. Russia came in killing a lot more people. But I don't see any "crime" per se. Just a big border dispute. Nyarlathotep (talk) 20:10, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Well, you see, that's one of the things... The "anglosphere" thought that the Evil Russians would do what they did back in the Soviet Union days, which normally was scorched earth policy... That didn't happen. The russians bombed only specific targets, enough to launch the georgian military into chaos and disarray. They were very effective in doing so. This contrasts with what the georgians did... They started everything by shelling and bombing a small town in South Ossetia, as well as villages, forcing the people that were there to move themselves to Russia, because they were russians, and russians with russian passports do not belong in USA administered Georgia. And you know what? One of the first buildings to be hit by the georgian shelling and bombing, was not only a hospital, but the building where OSCE's office was located... The first victim was a western ally...

Well, I do see a crime and from both sides (even as I'm Georgian). Both sides did wrong, but only we, Georgians are disadvantaged by not having a fair trial. All we want is a Neutral force to judge and make peace. Russians can not be neutral and thus cannot be peacekeepers. Georgia wants international (not Georgian) peacekeeping, Russia wants Russian (not International; and thus neutral) peacekeeping and strongly opposes any International peace. Doesn't this prove who started the war? If they want to protect their citizens and don't trust Georgians on that (I'd understand them, we want to protect ours, but don't trust them on that) then they must hand over to someone else, not take everything in their own non-neutral hands. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.147.224.22 (talk) 05:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

 * What "neutral" force? NATO? Some EU forces? Maybe UN forces? THERE ARE NO NEUTRAL FORCES!! There's only hypocrisy. Georgia is a member of the Community of Independent States, for crying out loud! How can you propose that the russians, having all the cards after this conflict, should accept such a force in their backyard? I'm sorry... I don't see how. And do you know what proves who started the war? The OSCE report that clearly says that it was Georgia and not the russians that started it.

Where's that OSCE report that every Russian justifies their action with? Is it available somewhere online or any publication pointing to it? About Neurtal forces. You don't like NATO, fair enough, don't like US, fair enough, don't like EU, well OK (although I remember Russians trying to join NATO and EU, why is that if they don't trust them and don't regadr them as Neutral?) but UN is union of all nations. do you not have even a single force that you can trust as neutral, in the world? you can't just say, look we fight and I don't trust anyone to make peace, so I'll be a side and a peacekeeper at the same time. About all the cards. What? that's such an imperialistic attitude, what cards? If what you say is true, and Russians just wanted to make peace, then they made it and what cards are we talking about at all. If peace is what Russians want why do you speak in terms of "look we have occupied lands, so we have cards"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.147.224.22 (talk) 06:55, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Attack has not ceased
As all Georgia reports, yesterday (on 12 Aug), even after Russians reported ceasefire, following operations have taken place:
 * Russian troops are out of conflict region of S.Osetia, into Georgia. Some villages are occupied and Russians are holding them. A lot of people living there reported marauding by S.Osetian separatists backed by ro reaction guarantee from Russian solders. Some 3 people are even reported dead. (You may think oh, 3, that's o.k. hundreds, if not thousands have dies, but this is during peace for very obviously unjust actions)
 * Russians are attacking the Kodori river valley in Upper Abkhazia, which to this day stayed under Georgian control. They have not retreated to their initial line before the conflict as they said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.147.224.22 (talk) 05:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I know, and there are also gulags where the Evil Russians torture and rape women and children... Just stop it. They've made their bed, now they must lie in it. You don't need to have a lot neurons on your brain to come to the conclusion that that is just a bunch of propaganda. Georgians started all of this by bombing and shelling a town, a civilian target. Now they will have to face the consequences. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.243.116.32 (talk) 10:33, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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Who the hell supports Barr? Fephisto (talk) 14:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


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User:Anonymous101/English Wikipedia publishes 2.5 millionth article

Today the English language version of Wikipedia, a free content online encyclopedia, has published its 2.5 millionth article, according to an announcement on the Wikipedia Main Page.

On the Main Page of Wikipedia a message was posted saying that "the English-language Wikipedia thanks its contributors for creating over 2,500,000 articles."

Although the reaction upon Wikipedians was mostly celebratory after the announcement that the milestone had been reached, some users expressed concern. "I believe that Wikipedia will become increasingly distrusted as a source of accurate information," said Wikipedia user Annette46.

Wikinews spoke to ?, a spokesperson for the Wikimedia Foundation. They told Wikinews in a statement that "?"

The 2.5 millionth article was created at 22:30 UTC yesterday. This means that the 2.5 millionth article could be anyone of the 30 articles created at that minute. Wikinews does not know which one of these is the 2.5 millionth article.

It is possible that the number of Wikipedia articles will increase dramatically in the near future, due to the proposed installation of an article creating robot on the project. If Wikipedia editors approve the bot, 1.8 million new articles on small geographical locations may be created on Wikipedia.


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User talk:Anonymous101/English Wikipedia publishes 2.5 millionth article

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I searched through the new page logs on Wikinews to find the 2.5 milliont article. Anonymous101talk 14:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia. :) Thunderhead 14:54, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I know, I'm just used to typing Wikinews. Anonymous101talk 14:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Same here, I never use the Pedia. For editing, anyway. Thunderhead 14:57, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Wizadrman posted this on the comment page: I'm copying here without comment as this seems the appropriate place for it. "WHA? The English Wikipedia passed 2.5 million articles at exactly 22:30 UTC yesterday. Am was posted at 00:18 UTC today. That's not even close to being the correct article to surpass 2.5 million" Olaf Davis (talk) 16:24, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I noticed, thats why this is at the top of the article "New information has revealed that Am (digraph) may not be the 2.5 millionth article. As a result this article has beeen unpublished temporarily)". The article we mentioned dooesn't account for deleted pages. Anonymous101talk 16:29, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

2.5 millionth article
What is the 2.5 millionth article? Cirt (talk) 22:00, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, per it is Joe Connor. Cirt (talk) 23:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


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Hezbollah strengthening, according to Israeli Defense Minister

August 13, 2008

On Tuesday, Israeli Defense Minister told troops training in the  that Hezbollah and Syria are strengthening and that the delicate balance that Israel has had with the Lebanese militant group since the end of the  is threatened.

"The other side is getting stronger. It is not a coincidence that we are holding a large-scale intensive exercise here in the Golan," said Barak. "We're following closely the violations of the [regional] equilibrium by Hezbollah and Syria, and the strengthening beyond the fence."

Later, Barak told Israeli television that the Second Lebanon War "turned out into a major launching pad to upgrade Hezbollah's power." Barak also criticized the former Israeli prime minister and the Israeli government for not acting wisely "by not responding to Hezbollah's growing capabilities/"

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some flags needed, e.g. the Netherlands, Chinese Taipei... someone, please... I am so tired after updating all the medal counts... Jiang.x.n (talk) 16:12, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

they should be like these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_the_Netherlands.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Chinese_Taipei_for_Olympic_games.svg

Jiang.x.n (talk) 16:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

for Taiwan in the Olympic Games, either "Taiwan" or "Chinese Taipei" refers to the same thing. but for the all-known political reason almost everybody concerning this place prefers one of the two. it seems that anonymous101 prefers Taiwan. there are problems either use "Taiwan" or "Chinese Taipei" here in this piece of news: for if use "Taiwan", the flag is not what actually used by the team and IOC; if use "Chinese Taipei" there is even no figure of its flag on wikinews by now. i acknowledge the de facto government ruling Taiwan (ROC) and disagree with the PRC government who says that Taiwan is a part of PRC. in fact the term "Taiwan" does not imply it is a country, yet, "Chinese Taipei" does not imply that Taiwan is part of PRC. the main point that ROC and PRC quarrels about is in fact the Chinese translation of "Chinese Taipei": it was "中国台北" which implies Taiwan is part of china, which is commonly thought to be PRC, and now it refers to "中华台北", which does not have that meaning. this is due to a recent compromise by PRC and ROC. the quarreling about names is left over historically by the Chinese civil war, and it is coming towards a reconcile.

what i am appealing here is to give respect to the IOC, and use the official name for Taiwan in the relating occasions. the current name adopted is a compromise made by all parties of the IOC, including PRC and ROC. i think we should discuss political issues on some other places where it is meant to, and use "Chinese Taipei" this time on the Olympic relating topics, which it "as is" by now.

Jiang.x.n (talk) 20:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree to use "Chinese Taipei" here. Any interest for a vote? 83.233.152.202 07:41, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Changed to Chinese Taipei. (By the way voting is evil) Anonymous101talk 07:47, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I see. Voting is evil. Thanks 83.233.152.202 08:10, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


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The English Wikipedia passed 2.5 million articles at exactly 22:30 UTC yesterday. Am was posted at 00:18 UTC today. That's not even close to being the correct article to surpass 2.5 million. Wizardman (talk) 16:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
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Many Rohm and Haas employees are upset about this deal, half a world away there is some other news on Dow that has citizens even more disgruntled - Dow's facility under construction outside of Bombay was torched a few weeks ago by members of a Hindu religious sect, who feel that Dow's legacy in Bhopal and around the world is unacceptable and that Dow will destroy the area that is sacred to them. Villagers next to the plant have been protesting peacefully since January - grinding construction to a halt since then. The sect which destroyed the facility, has pledged to do so again should Dow resume construction. Dow's refusal to present Union Carbide in Indian criminal court, or clean up the Bhopal facility that Carbide allowed to contaminate the drinking water in Bhopal has angered millions of Indian citizens. Pictures of the destruction can be seen here: http://www.thetruthaboutdow.org/article.php?id=1121

TOXIC TRAIN SAFETY - A First Responders Petition caused The Chlorine Institute to conduct a five-month study comparing the safety of secondary containment to the chlorine “C”-Kit for chlorine tank cars. The study proved secondary containment to be, by far, the safest technology for containing and preventing releases of chlorine gas. To see secondary containment - search “CHLORTANKER.”

WARNING: FIRST RESPONDERS’ use of THE CHLORINE INSTITUTE “C” KIT may cause the catastrophic failure of a chlorine tank car, instantly creating a toxic gas plume with a distance of not less than seven miles. The first mile will have chlorine concentrations of 1,000 ppm, causing death after one or two breaths with no opportunity for escape. To learn more, see PETITION C KIT, click on “First Responder Warnings.”

HazMat Experts and Firefighters petition Dow Chemical and Union Pacific for safe rail tank cars transporting gas chlorine. Secondary containment is a necessary improvement that must be implemented. See--PETITION C KIT for First Responders Comments.

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CHLORINE GAS TRANSPORTATION SAFETY First Responders ask federal administrations to consider adding secondary containment to rail tank cars used to transport chlorine gas, providing lifesaving safety to First Responders and the public they serve. See First Responders Comments at PETITION C KIT. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.99.132.118 (talk • contribs) 18:41, 12 February 2014


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Olympic highlights: August 13, 2008

August 13, 2008 August 13, 2008 is the 5th major day of the 2008 Olympic games, the below article lists some of the highlights.

Women's 200m individual medley
Australian Stephanie Rice set a new world record and won the gold medal in the final of the women's 200m individual medley with a time of 2:08.45, approximately 0.5 seconds quicker than the previous world record, which was also set by Rice.

Kirsty Coventry, who was representing Zimbabwe, won the silver medal and set a new African record, while Natalie Coughlin finished in third place with a time of 2:10.34.

Women's 200m freestyle
Italian Federica Pellegrini set a new world record and won the gold medal in the final of the women's 200m freestyle with a time of 1:54.82 minutes.

"I have reached three great aims — gold, the world record and getting past the wall of 1:55," said Pellegrini after the race.

Sara Isakovic, who was representing Slovenia, won the silver medal, while Jiaying Pang finished in third place with a time of 1:55.05.

Men's 200m butterfly
American Michael Phelps won his fourth gold medal of the Beijing Olympics in the final of the men's 200m butterfly with a world-record time of 1:52.03. It was Phelps' tenth career gold medal, the most won by any Olympian in any sport. He won despite suffering problems with his swim goggles, which he reported were filling with water during the event, hindering his vision.

Hungarian László Cseh won the silver medal with a time of 1:52.70, an European Record. Japanese swimmer Takeshi Matsuda won the bronze medal with a time of 1:52.97, an Asian Record.

Phelps beat his own world record of 1:52.09, set at the 2007 World Aquatics Championships in Melbourne, Australia. During qualifying, he had set the Olympic record at 1:53.70.

Men's 4x200m freestyle relay
The American team of Michael Phelps, Ryan Lochte, Ricky Berens and Peter Vanderkaay won the gold medal in the final of the men's 4x200m freestyle relay with a time of 6:58.56, the first ever sub-7-minute time in the event. The win gives Phelps his fifth gold medal of the Beijing Olympics, keeping his hopes of passing Mark Spitz's individual gold medal record alive.

They were over 5 seconds faster than second-place Russia, who finished with a time of 7:03.70, still a European record. Australia was third, with a time of 7:04.98.

The previous world record in this event is 7:03.24, set by the American team (which Phelps, Lochte and Vanderkaay were a part of) at the 2007 World Aquatics Championships in Melbourne, Australia.

Phelps' leadoff leg was timed at 1:43.31, which was 0.35 seconds short of his 200m individual world record. Leadoff leg splits in relays can be used for individual records at the same distance.

Women's 69kg weightlifting
China's Liu Chunhong set three new world records in group A of the women's 69kg weightlifting with a total score of 286kg, a snatch score of 128kg, and a clean-and-jerk score of 158kg.

Oxana Slivenko, who was representing Russia, finished in second place, while Natalya Davydova finished in third place with a score of 250kg.

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Medal Count update   Other countries

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Russian troops advance into Georgia, violating truce

August 14, 2008 According to Georgian officials and scattered news reports, Russian soldiers and South Ossetian paramilitaries have marched into the Georgian city of Gori. This comes one day after a truce was made by both nations to put an end to the six-day war that has killed many and uprooted thousands.

"Russia has treacherously broken its word," said Georgia's Security Council chief Alexandre Lomaia. Georgian officials also said that Gori was looted and bombed by the Russians, though the latter denies this claim.

An Associated Press (AP) reporter witnessed dozens of tanks and military vehicles leaving Gori in a southeast direction. One Russian soldier jokingly said to a photographer, "Come with us, beauty, we're going to Tbilisi!" Tbilisi is the capital of Georgia.

A CNN crew observed thousands of Georgian troops packing up and leaving Gori at high speed. Georgia has said it was recalling the troops to defend Tbilisi. According to the AP, a BBC reporter witnessed Russian tanks in the streets of Gori, while South Ossetians were seizing Georgian cars and looting homes.

Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili has stated that he thinks the Western response to this situation has been inadequate. "I feel that they are partly to blame," he said. "Not only those who commit atrocities are responsible ... but so are those that fail to react."

A Russian ministry of defence official told Interfax that Russian troops were in Senaki to "prevent attacks by Georgian military units against South Ossetia."

"To begin to repair the damage to its relations with the United States, Europe and other nations and to begin restoring its place in the world, Russia must keep its word and act to end this crisis," US president George W. Bush said.

Sergey Lavrov, Russia's Foreign Affairs Minister, responded to the US statement by calling Georgia "a special project of the United States. And we understand that the United States is worried about its project."

At the United Nations, Russian ambassador Vitaly Churkin said Russia would not sign a French-drafted cease-fire resolution. "We will look at the draft and try to bring it to a standard where it can play a role in this," Churkin said.


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Do not self-publish please. --SVTCobra 14:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Eh, both articles are from Associated Press. We need two independent sources. --SVTCobra 15:36, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I saw cnn reporting on it and that they not anymore head against Tiblisi but turned north. I guess they want a bufferzone or someting. And according to swedish radionews Russia admited troops around Gori. Russians claim they destroy Georgian military equipment. At all The article should include this. Maby a breakingtag and keeping it updated should avoid article fall in the 'void of old newsiness' international (talk) 16:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * added non AP source. Anonymous101talk 16:36, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The Time article is independent, but it does not verify the facts asserted by this article, esp. the part about Russian troops being deep inside Georgia. --SVTCobra 16:42, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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As it is a draft I have no problem with edit bold. The part have not much with the headline or other part of the article and make the article unneutral, POV. It is not firstleadmaterial in its current form. international (talk) 16:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

"perceived bias" OK, Can you find another quote that respond to the events better than this and perhaps a little something from the Russian side it would be nice. There is lot of BS flying arond in the 'mediawar' international (talk) 16:38, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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I unpublished this article because it does not follow WN:NPOV and it relies on a single source for the main thrust of the article. Please improve the article before republishing. --SVTCobra 17:14, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I found another source and made other improvements to the article. Please review. --SVTCobra 21:13, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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The article is still misleading... --Nemo bis (talk) 21:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


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BTW, when this was first published it listed Men's 200 metre butterfly semi-final results as the final results. Please be dilligent when reviewing. --SVTCobra 22:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


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Officials admit that China faked part of Olympics opening ceremony

August 13, 2008 Officials representing the Beijing Olympic Games in China have confirmed that the organizations in charge of the Opening Ceremony for the 2008 Summer Olympics may have faked at least two parts of the production. The ceremony lasted a total of four and a half hours.

It has been revealed that nine-year-old Lin Miaoke, who performed "Ode to the Motherland" during the ceremony, was only a visual effect. A recording of another girl's voice played throughout the stadium and on the television and radio broadcasts. It is also now known that that some of the fireworks shown on television were computer-generated imagery.

The New York Times reports Lin's voice was not perfect, and a member of the Chinese Politburo demanded that a more suitable voice was used. Organizers found that voice in seven-year-old Yang Peiyi. Another girl was used in rehearsals, but she was deemed to be too old.

"The reason was for the national interest," Chen Qigang, the opening ceremonies general music designer, said Sunday during a radio interview. "The child on camera should be flawless in image, internal feeling and expression."

Filmmaker Zhang Yimou, the production's director, praised Lin at a press conference with Chinese media.

"She’s very cute and sings quite well, too," he said according to a transcript of the news conference. "I was moved every time we did a rehearsal on this, from the bottom of my heart."

The initial performer was a ten-year-old girl who was not named in the report and "whose voice was really good," but Zhang decided that she was too old. About ten girls were auditioned for the role at Central People’s Radio Station in Beijing.

"After the recording, we thought that Lin Miaoke’s voice was not very suitable," Chen Qigang said during his radio interview with Beijing Music Radio. "Finally, we made the decision that the voice we would use was Yang Peiyi’s."

During the 2006 Winter Olympics in Torino, Italy, tenor Luciano Pavarotti mimed to a recorded version of the song he was singing. The recording was of him, but the singer, then 70 years old, had problems with a cold and opted to lip sync.


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They have admitted to using a prettier girl to lip-sync a song and that the overhead shot of fireworks was CGI. This has been all over the place for a few days. It is not like it was a NYT exclusive. --SVTCobra 15:44, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Corrected the article. Anonymous101talk 16:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oops, I had thought it was more exclusive, especially since I didn't see any other related news. Calebrw (talk) 21:41, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * They used a better singer with a better voice for the real singing; you can look at it that way, too (the article clearly states that Lin was at first intended to sing, but they then decided to replace her voice). The fireworks thing was definately well-faked, at least - but wasn't there one directly over the stadium?  Surely that one must have been real, or the spectators would have suspected something was up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.179.29.253 (talk) 05:47, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

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 * Reminder: Adding the peer reviewed template with a passing grade does not actually publish the article. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:18, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I know that. I didn't want to publish it, as there was a point to my comments. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 22:18, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, but you could easily have done the rename yourself and then published. Anyway ... it's water under the bridge. --SVTCobra 22:28, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Russian troops advance into Georgia, violating truce

The Russians basically agreed to a ceasefire, but then just threw it out the window after opportunity struck, and violated the territory of a sovereign nation. I am, however, surprised that the Georgian military retreated from Gori to Tbilisi. They could have given the Russians a great street fight and inflicted heavy casualties, but instead they just ran. Saakashvili will soon need a new tie....--Newscaster (talk) 19:28, 10 September 2010 (UTC) Georgia's humiliation...

The day before this, mr. Saakashvili spoke to a crowd, on live TV that they had defeated the Evil Russians... So, the russians, today, made a demonstration of power... They cruised slowly along georgian roads, for all georgians to see, without any resistance.

Oh, I forgot... the russian convoy, just before arriving Tbilissi, turned back and headed home. This was just humiliation with a bit of provocation.

*sob*

 * Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili has stated that he thinks the Western response to this situation has been inadequate.

Well, boohoo. How is it my problem that some goofy little nation that isn't even part of NATO has come under attack for aggressing Russia? If you want to lead an unilateral security policy against Russia, you better damn well be prepared to deal unilaterally with the consequences. --83.89.0.118 17:12, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

 * when i watch his speech he said Georgia will not be defeated.--KDP3 (talk) 17:13, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Of course he did... That's why the russians made a military parade inside his country. "If you won, if you drove us back, what the hell are we doing in here?". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.242.247.81 (talk) 17:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Georgia was trying really hard to join NATO for some time now. Int19h (talk) 10:32, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Had they been in NATO already, Russia would not invade them. Lysy (talk) 16:36, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure about Georgia's policy for military service, but they obviously needed an anti-occupation policy, meaning you train a very large number of ordinary civilians as snipers. Nyarlathotep (talk) 17:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Hoho! Maby they will join O*s*a*m*a b*i*n L*a*d*e*n. /s (Or is that satire? Osama was a part of CIA:s war against Russia in Afganistan. Osama last years organising 'anti-occupation policy' in Iraq and... Afganistan. Damn. This start to be too complicated for my small brain.) *goes somewhere else* international (talk) 18:00, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Well, asymmetric warfare techniques are quite effective at preventing occupation. Swiss have ben doing this forever.  Small nations sharing a border with large aggressive nations should normally have mandatory military service and keep their population armed.  It looks like Georgia has a voluntary national guard, not a mandatory one.  Nyarlathotep (talk) 15:31, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

A buddy of mine who visited Georgia says that their unofficial military recruitment policy = if 1) recruitment party sees you on street and 2) you don't have $50 on you (that's 50 American, natch), then you're in. Of course, that was a few years ago (not to mention the moral equivalent of what some guy told me in a bar). But if that's the case, you could see why they didn't put up a better showing against the Russians. Not that tiny postage stamp country vs. former superpower could go much differently. 12.216.229.179 00:53, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * We did not need this, and by we, I mean the world. Is Russia trying to go to war with the U.S.?--MasterRyu (talk) 05:49, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

It is typical of the Russian state since Putin came to power to say one thing;that its actions are purely defensive -i.e.protecting Russina citizens,whilst doing another.Not only are most of the South Ossetians and Abkhazians not ethnically Russian ( rather conveniently administrative Russians by virtue of extension of passport priveleges) but Russia is a relative new comer to this region since ."The Great Game"imperialist push by Russia into this part of the world started from the beginning of the nineteenth century.Russia is merely engaging in a neo-Czarist imperialism, by engaging in a "they started it mantra"to deny that they are their pushing their own agenda- way beyond just occupying South Ossetia.How much respect do they have for self-dtermination of small ethnic groups ; ask the Chechyens.Putin must remember that the rest ofthe world has access to multiple sources of information and can see right through his lies ,no matter how syncophantic the Rusian public is, deprived of a true free press.Beware the Baltics where so called "standing up"byPutin for ethnic Russians (actually colonialist invaders) will be used as a pretext for further violations of sovereignty.Remember Hitler and the Sudeten Germans! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew.schon (talk • contribs) 13:43, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


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Iran is trying to get a nuke and Hezbollah (which is funded by Iran) gets new toys? Israel is going to have an other war on it's hands.--KDP3 (talk) 17:15, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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US to deliver humanitarian aid to Georgia

August 13, 2008

George W. Bush, the President of the United States, has announced that his country will "begin a humanitarian mission to the people of Georgia, headed by the United States military."

Speaking at 11:10 EDT (15:10 UTC) today, Bush also said that "the United States of America stands with the democratically elected government of Georgia. We insist that the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Georgia be respected."

According to Bush, the planned aid mission will be "vigorous and ongoing."

Bush went on to describe the methods used in the delivery of the aid. "A U.S. C-17 aircraft with humanitarian supplies is on its way. And in the days ahead we will use U.S. aircraft, as well as naval forces, to deliver humanitarian and medical supplies."

In the final parts of the speech, Bush focused on the responsibilities that he claims Russia has committed to. "We expect Russia to honor its commitment to let in all forms of humanitarian assistance. We expect Russia to ensure that all lines of communication and transport, including seaports, airports, roads, and airspace, remain open for the delivery of humanitarian assistance and for civilian transit," he said, continuing on the focus on the provisions of aid.

The crisis in Georgia started when, on August 7, following days of fire exchange with South Ossetian separatist units, Georgia launched an offensive against Tskhinvali, the capital of the region. The next day Russian forces entered Georgia and began to bomb targets in the country.


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Is it possible to place a NPOV tag on this article? Sorry but I do not understand why there are no responses from Russian officials within the article? It seems to me to simply by a WhiteHouse press release. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wishmaster68 (talk • contribs) 14:27, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


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Sandy Allen, world's tallest woman dies at age 53

August 13, 2008 American Sandy Allen, recognized as the tallest woman in the world, has died at age 53 at her nursing home in Shelbyville, Indiana. She was 7 ft 7¼ in (232 cm) in height.

Even though she was officially named as the worlds tallest woman by the Guinness Book of World Records several websites list Yao Defen as the tallest. Yao's official height is disputed, however.

Allen's height was brought on by a tumor in her pituitary gland that caused it to release growth hormone uncontrollably. She had surgery at age 22.

In 1978 she appeared in the film Fellini's Casanova. She also appeared in a TV movie called Side Show and in a Canadian/American documentary film called Being Different. New Zealand band Split Enz wrote the song "Hello Sandy Allen" about her.

Because of physical limitation, she spent her last years in a retirement center. The center, coincidentially, is where Edna Parker lives. Parker has been recognized as the oldest living person in the world at age 115.

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Arkansas Democratic party chairman assassinated by gunman

August 13, 2008 Bill Gwatney, chairman of the Democratic Party of Arkansas, died this afternoon at 3:59 pm CDT (UTC-5) after having been shot earlier this morning. "He [the gunman] came in and went into this office and started shooting," said police Lt. Terry Hastings, speaking to reporters outside the party headquarters.

The suspect is Tim Johnson, a white male, described by Gwatney's secretary as wearing "khaki pants, white shirt, silver-gray hair, late 40s." He reportedly walked into the party headquarters facilities in Little Rock, Arkansas, conversed with the Chairman's secretary, refused her offer of bumper stickers, and then walked past her saying he had to see the Chairman.

After the shooting, Johnson got into his blue Chevrolet pickup truck and led police on a 25-mile chase. The end result was the shooting of the suspect, who was airlifted to a hospital and eventually died of his wounds.

According to The New York Times, Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton issued a joint statement saying, "We are stunned and shaken by today's shooting at the Arkansas Democratic Party where our good friend and fellow Democrat Bill Gwatney was critically wounded ... Bill is not only a strong chairman of Arkansas' Democratic Party, but he is also a cherished friend and confidante."

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My take
My attitude about this conflict is that this is between Georgia and the South Ossetians. Neither party committed any act of war against America or Russia, therefore it's not America's business or Russia's.

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So, they're sending aid to Georgia, but no aid to South Ossetia. It would be nice if that would be indicated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.167.176 (talk) 02:47, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

 * In response to the first comment. No it is everyone's business as long as those stay neutral in conflict. Saving lives and making peace (if that was truly what Russians or Americans wanted) is a very good intention. You can't allow small nations to fight. So if Russias real aim was to restore peace, then they would be justified.
 * Unfortunately, bombing civilian targets, Attacking the Kodori region in Abkhazia, irrelevant to the conflict and sending troops on Teritories far from conflict zone. Sinking Georgian ships (Georgian didn't really have a ship, more like a few crippled miniboats, which were totally useless against Russia, just used to patrol aroung shore to catch smugglers maybe) And other suchlike actions clearly show, peace was not their intention.
 * I think that peace should be inforced, but not by a power clearly biased towards one side, whether it be Russia, Osetia or Georgia (or even maybe America, as Russians blame them for being biased). A neutral country/countries from europe would do the job, if they're willing.

 * Good point i did not think of the after effects this has on Georgia. --KDP3 (talk) 08:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Those aren't good points at all. "Good intentions" are never a justification for anything.  "You can't allow small nations to fight" -- why not?  "Peace should be enforced" -- that very notion is contradictory:  don't be violent, or we'll be even MORE violent!  And it's always the civilians that have nothing to do with any of this, who just want to go about their daily lives, that always suffer most.  Yes, it's quite obvious that Russia's intentions have very little to do with peace.  The new US support also has very little to do with humanitarian aid.  The game is afoot -- and it could potentially go very, very badly for everyone.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.238.26 (talk) 13:05, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


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US Court of Appeals upholds free licenses

August 14, 2008

Wednesday, the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit reversed a lower court ruling and held that licenses such as Creative Commons (CC) licenses set conditions on the use of copyrighted work as opposed to covenants. This means that if a creative work is being used outside the terms of the license, the person modifying or republishing the work is guilty of copyright infringement for failing to attribute the original work. Academic and political activist Lawrence Lessig stated it was "a very important victory" for free licensing, and expressed his gratitude for the part Stanford Center for Internet and Society, a project he founded, played in achieving the finding.

A previous court ruling had denied relief to the plaintiff stating that its Artistic License only demanded contractual promises; that a violation thereof would not be, in fact a copyright infringement.


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I am not particularly fond of the unsourced superlative "free culture icon" for Lessig. --SVTCobra 23:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * By all means, change it! It's a collaborative article!  :)  Cary Bass (talk) 23:29, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Didn't want to cause an edit-conflict as you seemed in the middle of it. I added a source and made some changes. Therefore, I'd like someone else to review before publishing. Cheers, --SVTCobra 00:32, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


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What does this mean for China... Is there steps that will be taken for doing this or is'nt it the fact & the freedom of choice to suite what is best for the REPUBLIC OF CHINA... who can judge what has been done if has been done already? This link will Explain it much better. [Born Free & Equal]

Just to clarify on the allegedly faked fireworks - the part in question here was the footprints that marched towards the stadium. It seems that the firework did indeed take place (as some tourists/Chinese nationals caught it on tape and the videos are posted on YouTube ). However, it was deemed unsafe for helicopter crews to fly too close to the fireworks (information based on words of mouth, may need source to confirm that this is the official government response), and hence digital imaging was used to enhance the experience for viewers at home and those who are watching the big TV in the stadium. Can someone with a better grasp of Wikipedia editing procedures make changes to the article to better reflect this fact? As from the article at the moment it seems to suggest to readers that some of the fireworks did not happen at all. 99.247.16.231 06:10, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I under stand the faking of the fireworks, but how can't China find a little girl that is both cute and can sing. The nation has 1.3 billion people.--KDP3 (talk) 15:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

 * i am still trying to figure out why this is such a big deal - Imind (talk) 16:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

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Olympic highlights: August 14, 2008

August 14, 2008 August 14, 2008 is the sixth main day of the 2008 Olympic games, the below article lists some of the highlights.

Women's 200m butterfly
China won both the gold and silver medal in the final of the women's 200m butterfly, with the gold being taken by Zige Liu and the silver being taken by Liuyang Jiao.

With her time of 2:04.18, Liu set a new world record. This new world record in over one second quicker than the previous world record, which was set by the Australian Jessicah Schipper in 2006.

"I myself was shocked with the result," said Liu after the race. "I just swam at my own pace, not caring about the others, my coach said to me, 'We have two Chinese swimmers in the final, so you don't need to force yourself to win gold, you just need to try your best.'"

Men's 200m breaststroke
Japan's Kosuke Kitajima has beaten his own Olympic record and won the gold medal in the final of the men's 200m breaststroke. Kitajama's time of 2:07.64 was 0.97 secinds quicker than his previous Olympic record, which was set the previous day. It was, however, slightly behind the world record for the event, which is also set by Kitajima.

Brenton Rickard of Australia came in second with a time of 2:08.88 and Hugues Duboscq of France took the bronze medal with a time of 2:08.94.

Women's skeet
In the qualification rounds of the women's skeet, the Italian Chiara Cainero set a new olympic record with a score of 72, two points behind the current world record.

Cainero's best scoring round was the first round, where she won 25 points. She got 23 points in the second round and she added 24 points to her score in the final round.

Cainero will now go on to compete in the final.

Women's 12 arrows match
The South Korean Sung-Hyun park set a new Olympic record in the women's 12 arrows match with her score of 115. She set this record when competing in the individual 1/8 eliminations round of the competition against the Greek Elpida Romantzi.

Women's 4x200m freestyle relay
The Australian womens's 4x200m freestyle relay team have set a new world record an won the gold medal with their time of seven minutes and 44.31 seconds, almost six seconds ahead of the previous world record. The winning team consisted of Stephanie Rice, Bronte Barratt, Kylie Palmer and Linda Mackenzie.

"I feel amazing I just finished such a great meet," said Rice after completing the relay. "It is such a great feeling and there was not as much nerves [in the relay], just a lot of excitement."

The Chinese, American and Italian teams, which were in second, third and fourth place respectively, all finished with a time quicker than the previous world record.

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Wow. An assassination in Arkansas? I would never had expected it... -208.191.55.115 05:20, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Motive?
any word on what led this man to do it? - Imind (talk) 16:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

No word that I've heard. Either someone who doesn't like Democrats/Barack Obama(Rush Limbaugh worshipper type) or someone who wanted there 15 Minutes of Fame. And in Either case mentally. I would say he might have worked for him at the car dealerships but he worked at Target(overnight stocking) and had painted graffitee on the walls before committing this. —Rev, 14 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.226.135.120 (talk)


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Refers to things I saw on BBC coverage of the games today. Part of the section entitled "Women's 4x200m freestyle relay" uses information from TV. All other information in the article is fully cited to online sources Anonymous101talk 07:34, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


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Dead body left in UK hospital alongside living patients for seven hours

August 14, 2008 A dead body was left in a ward in, Glasgow, Scotland for seven hours before it was removed. Christine Martin, who saw the body, said that although there were curtains around the body, they "were open sufficiently for me to see this man, whom we had got to know over a period of 10 days, lying dead, face uncovered."

Officials from the hospital have apologized for having allowed the incident to occur. The son of the dead man said that the hospital acted with "utter compassion" when permitting his request to see his father's dead body in the ward.

National Health Service Greater Glasgow and Clyde said in a statement that, "we have acknowledged to the Martins that, beyond this, there was some delay in the transfer of the patient to the mortuary and steps have already been taken to ensure that this does not happen again."

The also released a statement on this incident. "The normal practice if someone has died in a four-bedded ward is to access a single room where the deceased could be viewed by the family and the family can have some time with the relative, and for that to be done in as dignified manner as possible," said Lynn McDowall, a professional officer for the organization. "This case highlights the campaign we're running and highlights the kind of problems nurses come across, because no nurse would want a deceased patient lying on a ward for seven hours."


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Pakistan's Musharraf will resign within days, say reports

August 14, 2008 The President of Pakistan Pervez Musharraf will resign within days according to reports by both The New York Times (NYT) and The Wall Street Journal (WSJ). As recently as Wednesday, Musharraf had been quoted as saying he would "fight the impeachment" brought against him on August 8 by a coalition in Pakistan's National Assembly. NYT reports that Musharraf will step down rather than face impeachment charges that have been brought by a broad coalition within the Pakistan Parliament. The paper goes on to say that how he steps down and whether he can stay in the country is being negotiated behind closed doors.

WSJ was able to obtain confirmation that he would resign, citing a person familiar with the situation. "Musharraf will neither face impeachment nor be prosecuted," said the WSJ's source. "We expect a major development in the next 48 hours."

Musharraf is reportedly holding out for safe passage and immunity from prosecution. Apparently, secret talks with the Pakistan Peoples Party began last week.

The neutrality of Pakistan's military may have been a crucial factor. "They are not even putting pressure on the civilians" to stop the president's ouster, said Arif Nizami, editor of the The Nation. "They are saying, 'If you do it according to the book, it’s none of our business.' They have pushed against Mr. Musharraf."

"The United States is now accepting Musharraf's removal as a fait accompli," said Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, a member of the Pakistan Muslim League (N) and a minister in the coalition government. "They just want that he should not be humiliated. We don't want his humiliation either."


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U2 fan ordered to destroy CDs

August 14, 2008

A man living in South Wales, United Kingdom was ordered to destroy his entire music collection after creating a ruckus by listening to the music at an extremely high volume. Police seized his stereo equipment in a raid. Karl Wiosna, a 44-year-old resident of Graig in Pontypridd, was playing Cher's album Believe at extremely high volume. His neighbours complained under the Environmental Protection Act and he was warned not to play the album at such high volume. However, he thought the warning was only for the Cher album, and he then started to listen to a U2 album a week later. His neighbors said they could hear the lyrics in their living room. Before the Rhondda Magistrates' Court Wiosna admitted breaching the noise abatement notice, with which he was served. He was ordered to pay a £200 fine. He was also ordered to pay £50 in costs, £15 in victim surcharge, and to destroy his music collection.

"They took £500 to £600 worth of stuff," complained Wiosna. "I don't think they should be able to do it, it isn't right."

"A legal notice under the Environmental Protection Act was served on Wiosna demanding he reduce the volume or stop playing music," read a statement by the Rhondda Cynon Taf County Borough Council. "Just a week after the legal notice was received, officers were called to the address during an out-of-hours emergency by a neighbour."

"In this case, the swift and effective actions of environmental health officers enabled the issue to be dealt with and I hope it serves as a reminder to others, that we can take them to court and seize their belongings if they do not cease causing a nuisance to others," said Councillor Mike Forey, the cabinet member for environmental health.

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 * E/C'd with Calebrw. Personally I would have failed a few sections, but oh well.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 18:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

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Another obnoxious U2 fan
Karma strikes again, I think the property destruction balances out the neighbours having their ears violated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.228.129.118 (talk) 03:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

The judge didn't go far enough
He should have ordered that all U2 and Cher CDs in existence be destroyed. --+Deprifry+ 19:27, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Piss poor choice of music, but if the gov wanted too destroy my property their in for a wild time, that's why i love the second amendment making sure criminals and the big brother can't turn me into a victim. --KDP3 (talk) 19:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The second amendment to the United States Constitution doesn't let you shoot police. Bart133 (talk) 02:33, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think the US second amendment holds much sway in British court

thats gay —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.57.92.182 (talk) 21:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

All U2 CDs deserve to be destroyed.

Clear Violation of Property
What? Karl Wiosna while most definitely a moron, does not deserve to have all his CDs to be destroyed. That's just wrong. -- Poe Joe (Talk) 21:53, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

the above sums up my opinions —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.208.78.44 (talk) 00:13, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

He flouted court orders so the judge got creative. But it's still just a special fine so the judge likely considered their value. Plus, their just CDs, not vinyl. Nyarlathotep (talk) 04:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Avoid sensational titles
You could have reported the same as "man ordered to destroy music collection for playing music too loud". U2 has nothing to do with it and your title is an attempt to get attention.
 * To be fair, other news outlets had similar titles. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 02:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Oh come on. Get a sense of humor, please. I would say the title's appropriate because it immediately conveys, in microcosm, the (pop-culture) irony of the story. Oblivious U2 fan is a stereotype, believe it or not. If "Black man ordered by court to eat bucket of chicken" were to be reported, would you protest against that title? Hopefully not: it adds a specific social dimension (albeit, less tongue-in-cheek, and perhaps more disturbing depending on the circumstances). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.147.167 (talk) 22:26, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Article describes the wrong place
This article references Graig in Newport, not the correct Graig in Pontypridd. (A search on Google Maps only delivers the one at Newport - possible source of the confusion?)

The correct Graig is here In Rhondda Cynon Taf County Borough Council, as evidenced by the Magistrate being that for the Rhondda and it being within the wards of RCT CBC, not Newport City Council. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.131.98.97 (talk) 09:01, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Yes, the Guardian source clearly states that it's the Graig in Pontypridd, not Newport. -- Arwel (talk) 19:06, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

A fine would have been more than enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.150.77.215 (talk) 17:09, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

A step in the right direction, now if we can just destroy ALL the U2 cds in the world.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.209.144.62 (talk) 16:27, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Open Letter
Who's hijacking whose music now? Thanks Big Brother!

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THIS IS WHERE WE ARE HEADED
Keep voting in the ultra liberals, and this is the kind of government we can expect here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.219.201.184 (talk) 21:24, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

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WHY HE SHOULD NOT HAVE A TRIAL ABOUT THE CRIMES HE DID IN PAKISTAN? HE IS RESPOSIBLE FOR DEATHS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, FINANCIAL CORRUPTION,VIOLATION OF PAKISTAN'S CONSTITUTION,VIOLATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS,USE OF EXCESSIVE POWER AGAINST POWERLESS STUDENTS, TORTOURING CHILDREN, WOMEN & ELDERLY PEOPLE. THERE IS LONG LIST OF CRIMES HE DIDDURING HIS ABSOLUTE RULE ON PAKISTAN. I HOPE WESTREN DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY WILL HELP OUR NATION TO BRING MR.MUSHARAF TO JUSTICE.


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Swedish wrestler throws away Olympic bronze medal, leaves

August 15, 2008 Ara Abrahamian, an Armenian-born wrestler from Sweden, received a bronze medal in the 84kg class of Greco-Roman wrestling. During the award ceremony on Thursday, Abrahamian stepped down from the podium, took off his medal and dropped it onto the wrestling mat. He then angrily left and was later quoted as saying "I don’t care about this medal. I wanted gold."

Abrahamian was upset about a decision in his semi-final loss to eventual gold medal winner Andrea Minguzzi from Italy. His coach, Leo Myllari, seemed to agree that he had been unfairly treated by the judges. "It's all politics," Myllari said, though he did not indicate if he was going to file an official protest.

Abrahamian participated in the bronze-medal bout, but only after friends pleaded with him. "I decided that I had come this far and didn't want to let them down, so I wrestled," said Abrahamian. "This will be my last match. I wanted to take gold, so I consider this Olympics a failure," the 33-year-old Swede said. Abrahamian won a silver medal back in the 2004 summer olympics in Athens.

"Certainly one can always question decisions made in the course of refereeing, but in sports it is appropriate to show sportsmanship and accept the results," said gold-winner Minguzzi, who was unhappy that his celebration was spoiled.

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Ariane 5 rocket launches Superbird 7 and AMC-21 satellites

August 14, 2008

At 20:44 GMT on Thursday, an Ariane 5ECA rocket lifted off from ELA-3 (Launch Area 3) at the Guiana Space Centre in French Guiana, carrying the Superbird 7 and AMC-21 satellites for the Space Communications Corporation (SCC) of Japan and SES Americom respectively. Just under thirty minutes later, AMC-21 separated from the upper stage of the carrier rocket into a geostationary transfer orbit, marking the successful completion of the launch.

Superbird 7 was constructed by Mitsubishi, and will provide multimedia broadcasting to Japan, and other parts of Asia. It is the first commercial satellite to be built using the DS-2000 bus, although three DS-2000 satellites have already been launched for the Japanese Government. It will be placed in a geostationary orbit at a longitude of 144° East. It is the last satellite to be launched for SCC, prior to its planned merger into the SKY Perfect JSAT Group

AMC-21 will be used for television broadcasting to North America. It will be placed into a geosynchronous orbit with two degrees of inclination, at a longitude of 125° West. AMC-21 was constructed by Thales Alenia Space, based on a STAR-2 bus produced by Orbital Sciences Corporation. It will be operated by SES Americom, a United States based subsidiary of Luxembourgian company SES S.A.. It is the first SES satellite to be launched since the AMC-14 satellite was lost in a launch failure on a Proton rocket earlier. AMC-14 has since been sold to the US Government for technology development experiments including radar targeting.

The satellites were enclosed in a long payload fairing, which separated shortly after the rocket reached space, around three minutes and ten seconds after launch. A SYLDA-5 dual payload adapter was used, with Superbird 7 located in the upper position, and AMC-21 underneath. The launch was conducted by Arianespace, a French Launch Service Provider

Speaking after the launch, Jean-Yves Le Gall, the CEO of Arianespace said that he was "very happy to share this new success". Yukata Nagal, the Chief Executive of SCC, said that he was "very glad" that the launch was successful. Rick Starkovs, one of the Vice Presidents of SES said that he felt felt "very good" watching the successful launch.

This was the 39th launch to orbit so far this year, and the 38th to reach orbit. It is the fifth of seven planned Ariane 5 launches this year, and the 41st Ariane 5 launch overall. The next Ariane 5 is scheduled to launch in October, with the Hot Bird 9, NSS-9, and Spirale satellites.


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It should be noted that the the first and third source are both from Rueters UK, but I couldn't find the link to the third source direct. —Calebrw (talk) 23:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I also found this source from CNN/SI.com: -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 23:34, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I replaced the dupe Thomson Reuters source with one from The Daily Telegraph and added some things. Although still a rather short article, I don't think much else can be added, so I submitted for review. --SVTCobra 00:24, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


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