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Afghanistan women protest Shia Family Law

April 19, 2009

In Kabul between 100 to 200 women protested the and were met by a mob of 800 counterdemonstrators who were mainly men and Shia clergy. Many women were prevented from attending the protest by male family members and were denied entry to board buses by public transportation employees. The Shia Family Law was passed for the 3 to 6 million Shia Muslims who reside in Afghanistan. Under the law, women must not refuse the husband's sexual demands, women must comply to intercourse every four days unless sick, women may not gain employment or receive education without their husband's permission, wives leaving home must do so with male escort or with permission and they must dress up and wear cosmetics according to the husband's desires. Refusal to do any of these would be illegal for the woman and can be enforced — the husband may stop feeding her.

"If a woman says no, the man has the right not to feed her," said, Shia cleric.

The protest began outside Mohseni's Khatam Al Nabi mosque and School of the Last Protest, and continued 2 miles (3.2 km) onward to where they delivered a petition to  the law. Mohseni, a leading Shiite cleric in Afghanistan, was instrumental in implementing the new law.

"This law is against Islam and it's against women. It's against the people of Afghanistan." said Sima Ghani, an organiser for the women's protest, "Women have God-given rights. But these men are claiming those rights in the name of culture. It is against everything God has ever given us."

Women attending Khatam-ul-Nabieen Shia University marched in a separate protest in favour of the Law. The University, which is attached to the Shia mosque, also receives funding from Mohseni.

Counterdemonstrators chanted "Slaves of the Christians", "Down with the Christians. Down with the apostates", "Death to the enemies of Islam!", "We want Islamic law!", "death to ", and "Death to the slaves of the Christians!", and picked up stones and threw them at the women protestors. One man yelled out to the female protestors, "You are a dog! You are not a Shiite woman!" Men shouted "Get out of here, you whores! Get out!" as female protestors were disembarking from a bus.

The Marefat School had windows broken and doors torn down. Teachers were attacked and stoned by counter protestors who believed Aziz Royesh, the headmaster, had assisted the women's protest.

The United Nations has reported that women have received death threats if they defy the new law. , a Woman's rights activist and member of Kandahar's provincial council, was murdered at her home on Sunday, April 12 by Taliban gunmen.

Another woman protestor, Masuma Hasani, said "I am concerned about my future with this law. We want our rights.  We don't want women to just be used."

"Go home if your mothers and fathers are Muslims. These people will beat you if you stay," yelled out a Shia cleric.

Women carried banners reading "We want dignity in the law" and "Islam is justice". Women who participated in the hazardous and rare protest defied customs; some wore jeans, others uncovered their faces.

"We think those who oppose this law in fact oppose the . This law does not approve rape, it is rather about loyalty of wife to husband and husband to wife. Rape is what you can see in the West, where men don't feel responsibility for their wives and leave them to go with several men." said Nesa Naseri, counterprotestor and a female student of Sharia Studies.

"Whenever a man wants sex, we cannot refuse. It means a woman is a kind of property, to be used by the man in any way that he wants," said Fatima Husseini, 26, a female protestor.

The law has had separate interpretations because at one point during the rally both sides chanted "We want honour and dignity for women", and "Allah Akbar," or God is great.

Politically it has been said that Hamid Karzai signed the legislation as an appeasement to the Shiite religious clerics in the face of the.

The Taliban who ruled Afghanistan for five years ending in 2001 imposed similar laws, when the was imposed for women's wear and women were required to obtain permission from a male relative to exit the house.

Whereas the legally upholds sexual equality, and Afghanistan at one time signed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, it also upholds its constitutional prerogative to place Islamic beliefs ahead of all other practices.

Karzai has asked the to review the law, and the legal enforcement of the law shall be placed on hold. Homayun Hamidzada, a spokesman for Karzai, says the law is not legally binding until it is published in the government register which means it can be modified.

Hamidzada said, "We have no doubt that whatever comes out of this process will be consistent with the rights provided for in the Constitution — equality and the protection of women."

"We Afghans don't want a bunch of NATO commanders and foreign ministers telling us what to do," said Mohammed Hussein Jafaari, a cleric.

Mariam Sajadi said "We don't want foreigners interfering in our lives. They are the enemy of Afghanistan."

"We must trust, instead of listening to the Western countries and the European countries who come here to meddle and interfere." said Sayed Sajat of the counter protest.

"Afghan women have raised their voices and they proved this isn't what the international community is imposing on Afghanistan, these are the demands of Afghan women," said Sabrina Saqeb a protest organiser and MP.


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New York Governor introduces same-sex marriage bill

April 16, 2009

New York's governor David Paterson introduced a bill Thursday into the state legislature to legalize marriage between same-sex couples, although it appears to lack the necessary support in the state senate.

"For too long, the gay and lesbian communities have been told their rights and freedoms have to wait", said Gov. Paterson. "The time has come to bring marriage equality to the State of New York."

The legislation would give same-sex couples 1,300 to 1,400 rights that don't exist unless a couple is married, he said.

Of the four states in which same-sex marriage is presently legal — Vermont, Iowa, Massachusetts, and Connecticut — only Vermont has legalized marriage within the state legislature. The other three states have determined through the courts that the prohibition of same-sex marriage was not allowed under their state constitutions.


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Maoist guerrilla attacks kill at least 17 on first day of Indian elections

April 17, 2009

Violence in India has left at least 18 people dead as Maoist guerrillas attacked voting stations during the first day of elections in the country. At least four other people, reported to be election officials, were kidnapped.

The guerrillas made fourteen attacks on polling stations and vehicles transporting election officials in central and eastern regions of India. The insurgents were armed with rocket launchers and landmines. They were calling for the polls to be boycotted, and had pledged to disrupt the elections. The violence was aimed at election authorities, not the voters. Soldiers who had been shot were evacuated by helicopters in some areas.

A re-vote was called in seventeen voting booths as a result of the attacks.

"Their [the insurgents'] political philosophy is such that they don't want to believe in democracy," said the director general of the Border Security Force, M L Kumawat.

"The extent of violence is unprecedented and shows it will be a significant political and security challenge for the next government. In many parts of India, they run parallel governments," said a political analyst from the Delhi University, Mahesh Rangarajan.

The elections, which are spread out over five phases, end on May 13. They are estimated to cost about US$2 billion, and it is forecast that about 714 million voters will attend the polls. Thirteen million voting machines will be used, and over six million security officials will help oversee the election. More than a quarter of a million police officers have been deployed to keep the peace at the polls.


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Fijian regime appoints vice-president

April 17, 2009

Interim minister for Indigenous Affairs Ratu has been appointed  by Fiji's military regime.

Nailatikau, a former military commander, and Minister in the military regime, was sworn in at Government House this morning. He will continue to hold his portfolios in the interim Cabinet.

The appointment follows the promulgation of a decree establishing the office of vice-president and permitting them to perform the functions of the if the President is unable to.

The current president,, is 88 years old and suffers from. He is rarely seen in public, and there is some speculation about his health.

Iloilo abrogated the country's constitution and revoked all judicial appointments last Friday in response to a Court of Appeal decision declaring the removal of  and the appointment of military strongman  as interim Prime Minister unlawful.

Previously the vice-president was appointed by the. An earlier attempt by the military regime to appoint Nailatikau as vice-president was rejected by the GCC in April, 2007, leading to the body's suspension.

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Wikinews:JavaScript

The purpose of this page is to document the JavaScript used on Wikinews (right now it is more of an overview than documentation, but hopefully it is useful to someone). See also Skins. For information on enabling custom JavaScript for yourself, see meta:Help:User style.

If you discover a bug in the local javascript, or one of the gadgets, please report it at the bottom of this page.

Gadgets
Gadgets are optional functionality you can enable in your preferences.
 * See special:gadgets for full list. Some of the more popular ones are also listed here.

Hide fundraiser
Only available during fundraisers, hides the fundraiser notice.
 * MediaWiki:Gadget-HideFundraisingNotice.css

Navigation popups
Copied from Wikipedia, so probably out of date. See Tools/Navigation popups. Provides quick overviews of articles as you hover over text. See File:Popup-preview.png for an example.

HotCat
Imported from commons, allows easy insertion and removal of categories. For full documentation see Commons:Help:Gadget-HotCat.

WikEd
Stolen from Wikipedia. Adds syntax highlighting, and better editing toolbar. This directly loads the script from Wikipedia, so it should always be up to date. See w:User:Cacycle/wikEd for more details.

ReadyAlert
Adds to the sitenotice a list of articles currently needing to be reviewed, as well as a list of articles that are published but need to be re-flagged. Also includes how long the article has been waiting to be reviewed/flagged.

talkSeperate
Add a yellow border around different levels of indentation to make it easier to tell who is talking. Stolen from french Wikinews.

CommentWatch
If you add a page to your watchlist, also add the associated comment (opinion) page to your watchlist as well.

FAQ

 * I want to use this, but at the same time I want to be able to double-click things without the pop-up coming up
 * hold down shift while double clicking
 * Can this be translated into <some language>
 * yep, this is already in several languages. See bottom of MediaWiki talk:Gadget-dictionaryLookupHover.js to request a new translation, or help with translation
 * Can I use this on my website or wiki
 * Yes you can. See below for details on how to use on your own website. Ask user:Bawolff if you need help.
 * I know javascript and want to help with development of the script
 * Awesome, ask user:Bawolff what you could do to help.
 * I want to use this as a bookmarklet
 * Sure, just bookmark the following url (In firefox, highlight it and drag it to the toolbar)
 * Alternatively, follow instructions at http://www.marklets.com/Bookmarklets/Wiktionary+lookup.aspx

Introduction
In short, double click a word, get its definition.

This gadget allows you to double click on a word, and a box will be overlaid showing the definition of that word. This gadget works, by detecting what is highlighted when you double-click on the page (double-clicking a word automatically highlights it). The gadget than looks up the word, using the following url http://en.wiktionary.org/w/api.php?action=parse&prop=text&format=xml&xslt=MediaWiki:extractFirst.xsl&page=Word (replacing word with the name of the word. It than displays that page in an overlay (absolutely positioned iframe for those familiar with html) on the current page. To close the overlay just click anywhere outside it. (preferably to the left or right of it. there is a little space directly under the overlay box which won't close [this is because it is actually a transparent part of the box, used to accomadate large definitions]).

A couple of notes
 * Internet explorer doesn't work with this gadget as of current. As a fall-back, it will just open up the relevent wiktionary page in a new window on internet explorer
 * This is due to mediawiki giving the xslt stylesheet the type of text/xml, which well technically correct, the real word requires text/xsl for cross-browser support.
 * If wiktionary has multiple definitions for a word, it will display the first one. This is not always the most relevent definition
 * Hopefully this will soon support searching for definitions in non-english. at the moment this only supports searching in english.
 * Holding down shift while double clicking will prevent the box from appearing. This can allow the gadget to be used in combination with the double-click to edit preference.
 * If you have any feature requests/suggestions/comments/bugs/hate-mail/love-mail etc. You can put them on MediaWiki talk:Gadget-dictionaryLookupHover.js or ask me directly.

On mediawiki wiki
importScriptURI('https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-dictionaryLookupHover.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
 * If you want to enable this on your local wiki, add the following to somewhere where js is loaded:
 * If you just want to enable it for yourself, put it in special:mypage/skinname.js (replacing skinname with your skin. for example special:mypage/monobook.js if monobook is your skin.)
 * If you want to enable it for everyone, put it in mediawiki:Common.js
 * If you want to make it a gadget, put the js snipit above in mediawiki:Gadget-wiktLookup.js . create mediawiki:Gadget-wiktLookup and put a description of the gadget in there (preferably with a link back here for bug reports). Add  to mediawiki:Gadgets-defintion.

On an arbitrary website (aka your blog)
Add the folowing somewhere into the html (preferably in the <head>, but should work anywhere:  Note if for some reason you don't want to hot link hot-linking is highly recomended though), contact me (user:Bawolff) and i'll tell you how to set that up.

The script uses the  attribute on the <html> element to determine the language of your website. You can also override this by setting a global js variable wgContentLanguage. For example:. Theres some other options that can customize the script, but i havn't documented them yet (don't worry, they are not really useful).

Configuration options
This script has a number of configuration options. to configure add the following to somewhere where js is loaded (could be loaded before or after the script). For example on a wiki, if you wanted to configure for the entire site, it could be at mediawiki:Common.js. If its just for you, special:mypage/monobook.js (or special:mypage/vector.js if you use vector, etc for other skins). If its a blog, where ever you can execute js (for example, insert it between a  and   tags.

The following parameters are supported (prefix with wiktLookup.)
 * count - maximun number of definitions to display (defaults to 1; values other than 1 not well tested. Will only display a maximun of the number of definitions it can find.)
 * showWord - show the word that this definition is for. (use one of link, none, or bold. defaults to none)
 * noRedir - disable auto-redirection. for example disable mapping FOOD → food (not recomended).
 * preferLang - this is your user language. This is the language that the definition appears in (not the language that the word is assumed to be of) (don't mess with this unless you have a good reason. defaults to your mediawiki preference)
 * audio - One of true, false, autoplay. have audio pronounciation of word where available. Not yet implemented
 * height - how many pixels high the maximun size of the box should be. defaults to about 420
 * width - how many pixels wide the max size of box should be. defaults 180.
 * key - a single (lowercase) letter to specify the ctrl+shift+key combo. for example if you put, ctrl+shift+b will look up any word thats highlighted. defaults to  . Note: sometimes the box will popup in weird places when looking up things by key combo.
 * reverseShift - Normally if you press shift, it stops the popup from coming up when double clicking. with this option, you have to press shift and double click for the pop up to come up.
 * disableByDefault Only enable in sections marked foo bar baz

For example, to use a count of 3 defintions, the bold showWord, a slightly wider box, add the following js:

if (!window.wiktLookup) wiktLookup = {}; wiktLookup.count = 3; wiktLookup.showWord = 'bold'; wiktLookup.width = 220;

If you are on a wiki, you would either add it to special:mypage/monobook.js (replacing monobook with the skin you use) if you just want it for you, or mediawiki:Common.js if you want the options. If you are using an external website, such as blog, you would suround it with  tags, and insert it into the html source of your website.

If you are using this from a blog (not a wiki), you can also use the global variable  to overide the assumed content language of your blog (it defaults to the lang attribute of the html element) This is used to figure out what language the word you clicked on is in. The global variable  controls what language it is assumed the user speaks (aka what language to present the definition in).

wikidialog
Enabled by default for all users, including IPs. Relies on page-specific javascript. See Help:Dialog.

Rss Feeds

 * A <link> to http://toolserver.org/~zach/cgi-bin/rss.cgi?cat= is included for every category. This allows browsers like Firefox to put a little RSS icon in the corner linking to an RSS feed for recently published articles in that category only. The main feed is handled on mediawiki side.
 * Any portal page that has some element with the id  Will add a rss <link> for http://toolserver.org/~zach/cgi-bin/rss.cgi?cat=. topic header and Region header automatically add such an id if it is detected there is a category with the same name as the portal in existence.

Dynamic Navigation
A script for the collapsible boxes you know and love. It was stolen from some other project a long time, and was modified so that there is an option to make the open boxes close if another one is opened (only one open at a time). This script is rather ugly, and could be much improved.
 * See Special:Prefixindex/Template:Dynamic navigation
 * Uses css found in mediawiki:common.css

Tabber
script to create tab boxes. Created by by Patrick Fitzgerald, and released under an open source MIT license (go open source). Was modified slightly to suit our purposes. Creates tab boxes.
 * Uses various css in mediawiki:common.css
 * See Picture select, howdy and htab-box
 * There is some special case code for howdy in the js to allow linking between the tabs. see

IRC box
Creates an IRC login box anytime you put  on a page. Logs you into the wikizine cgi:irc web interface. Used to be used on WN:IRC, not anymore. Still on WN:V

Custom edit buttons
Adds a button to the edit toolbar for Linking to Wikipedia, and for creating redirects.
 * For an example of extensive use, edit a page on the french wikinews.

Comment crap

 * Script for making the comment namespace a pseudo-second-talk ns. (adds a opinions tab, and turns it red if it doesn't exist) Could be improved imho. Mostly contained in MediaWiki:Comments.js

Ticker
Shows a list of items, one at a time. If you're using an old computer, and don't want to waste cpu cycles, it can be disabled via a gadget, or by doing. Note: Historically we used a different ticker system - mediawiki:Ticker.js. It is no longer loaded by the english wikinews js, but some other languages use it.
 * See ticker
 * Demo page at User:Bawolff/sandbox/ticker
 * See comments in mediawiki:Ticker2.js for detailed information on how it works.

Edit tools (MediaWiki:Edittools.js)
Add a drop down menu to the insert markup box that comes after the editbox.

per page customization

 * Loads mediawiki:common.css/ and mediawiki:Common.js/<pageName dependent on what page you're looking at. The following per page scripts/css currently exists.

 * Of particular note:
 * mediawiki:Common.js/Main Page allows edit lead links to be hidden from anon users who can't edit them (but currently not in use)
 * mediawiki:Common.js/Wikinews:Syndication Allows users to get customized feeds of the site, using CSpurrier's RSS tool
 * mediawiki:Common.js/Special:MovePage yells at people about double redirects. (however it misses triple redirects)
 * User:Bawolff/sandbox/powerFlag Allows you to set flagged revision settings on a per flag basis.

Social networking stuff
For use with template:Social bookmarks.
 * Looks for an element with an id of social_bookmarks.
 * Finds all links ( elements) that are children of the social bookmark element
 * Add on onclick handler so that any links will open in a new window (the window currently has the following options:  )
 * If any of the links link to somewhere start with http://twitter.com/home/?status dynamically replace the location of the link with something along the lines of  where <wgArticleId> is the id of the current article (This is to shorten twitter messages, as they have a 140 character limit. Compare Look what I found on Wikinews: http://enwn.net/+113953 (54 characters) vs Look what I found on Wikinews: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/UK_government%27s_Information_Commissioner_takes_enforcement_action_against_Liberal_Democrat_party_for_cold_calling_voters (181 characters; 41 characters over the limit).
 * http://enwn.net is a url shortening service specifically for wikinews, created/owned by User:ShakataGaNai. Before that we'd use http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/article?curid=113953

from wikipedia
We append &editintro=Template:Editintro_from_wikipedia to all the editlinks on any page, when the user has a referrer starting with http://en.wikipedia.org. This puts Editintro from wikipedia above the edit box.

not current
Any article that has a publish date (in date, or more accurately the date category that the date template adds) over 48 hours ago, is in category published, and not in category archived, has &editintro=template:Editintro_notcurrent to the end of all edit urls (unless they already have an edit intro). This makes Editintro notcurrent go on top of the edit box

Note if there is a conflict between not current, and from wikipedia, not current wins. This was a completely arbitrary decision, it could be switched, or we could have another template when both apply if people would prefer that.

mediawiki:Monobook.js
Monobook only JavaScript

Alt stylesheets

 * Loads alternate stylesheets for the monobook skin. These can be accessed in Firefox and Opera. In Firefox it is under View→Page Style→.

Main Page stuff
Hides the title if skin is monobook, and page is main page (This should possibly be moved to css).

Mediawiki:Modern.js

 * Add the Wikinews logo to the left navigation bar.

user:Bawolff/mwapilib.js/user:Bawolff/mwapilib2.js
Called by some of the per-page js, and some js in my (Bawolff's) userspace. Aims to make using the mediawiki api easier to use. Some docs at user:Bawolff/mwapilib
 * Note, user:Bawolff/mwapilib2.js is actually usable (and beautiful), where the first one is kind of crap.

jQuery

 * Some scripts use jQuerry by calling something else. ITs somewhere in mediawiki land.

Bugs
Please use this area to report bugs and/or feature requests (for gadgets or the core js. If its a gadget maintained on wikinews you can alternatively report it to the maintainer of that gadget)
 * DragonFire's supercool lead thingy.

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Swedish court finds administrators of The Pirate Bay guilty of contributory copyright infringement

April 17, 2009 A court in Sweden has found at least four administrators of the file-sharing site The Pirate Bay (TPB) guilty of being "accessories to copyright infringement." The court ordered Carl Lundström, Fredrik Neij, Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, and Peter Sunde to serve at least one year in prison and pay damages of US$3.5 million (€2.7 million).

"The Stockholm district court has today found guilty the four individuals that were charged with accessory to breaching copyright laws. The court has sentenced each of them to one year in prison," said a statement released by the court. Despite the ruling, TPB says it will not be shut down and file sharing operations will not be affected. "Stay calm -- Nothing will happen to TPB, us personally or file sharing whatsoever. This is just a theater for the media," said a spokesman for TPB. The spokesman also added that TPB "cannot and will not" pay the damages. TPB is expected to file an appeal.

The trial lasted two weeks, and ended on March 2. The lawsuit was filed on behalf of Sony Music Entertainment, Warner Bros. and Columbia Pictures among others. Investigators say at least 33 specific films and songs posted on TPB were tracked by authorities.


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Links
Maybe it's interesting to look at the following links:
 * TPB on Wednesday
 * TPB response

2 weeks ago
Shouldn't that be 2 months ago? March 2 was more than 2 weeks ago :P --199.190.223.190 17:24, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The part was copied from this source, but it doesn't say it started two weeks ago. Instead it says: "The two-week trial, which ended March 2, was a joint civil and criminal proceeding that pitted the entertainment industry and the government against the four defendants, who each faced up to two years in prison. In addition, motion picture and record companies sought $13 million in damages for the 33 movies and music tracks at issue." So you are right that the article isn't correct. Note to reviewer: This issue should be fixed. Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk) 20:19, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

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Noes!!! The Pirate Bay are not responsible; that's the file sharer's responsibility.--Unionhawk (talk) 15:28, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

 * "accessories to copyright infringement.". That what the courts see. They don't care for the real "criminals" they just want the people that have the power to give it the people.--66.229.26.39 22:08, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * So if a librarian gives direction to someone towards an encyclopedia, then that person copies the encyclopedia, is the librarian an "accessory to copyright infringement"? 76.84.81.105 09:28, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * With the book, you can read the whole thing without copying it, with online media, you have to copy it before you can read it. The librarian directed this person to the book expecting them to just read some of the information. The Pirate Bay hosts direct people to the torrents expecting them to copy it for their own use. Companies don't like this because they lose business (not like they need it), so they persecute mercilessly to make it stop. I am still wondering why they were caught now, they hadn't been before. - Nivm

So sad.
Looks like they finally got snagged on something, that haven't had any trouble with this before. Perhaps those companies made excessive bribes to finally make it happen. Oh well, hopefully this means that they will be more careful in the future so the companies can't use the law to attack them. - Nivm
 * Oh, it's not over yet. And with the Pirate Party now the 4th largest party in Sweden, it's possible that legal measures to protect groups like the Pirate Bay may even occur in the near future.  We'll need to see what happens.  I am somewhat disgusted with how the prosecution handled the case.  Jade Knight (talk) 01:59, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Pouring Gasoline On The Fire
As a result of this case, the international media became one big advertisement for just how easy it is to torrent copyrighted material. The entire notion that this "sets an example" is foolish because nothing will have been halted as a result of this case. Google Trends shows searches for "The Pirate Bay" at an all-time high. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lost Cosmonaut (talk • contribs) 18:48, 19 April 2009
 * Uh, that's Streisand Effect. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


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I noticed you just added a source to this. Are there details in this source to be incorporated into the article? --Brian McNeil / talk 15:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

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Small plane crash in Florida destroys home

April 17, 2009

A small plane crashed Friday morning into a house in Florida after taking off from the Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport.

The twin engine aircraft is believed to be a Cessna 421. A Federal Aviation Administration spokesperson has said that one person was on board the 8 passenger plane. Authorities report that no one was at home when the crash occurred just before noon hour. The pilot, 80-year-old Cecil A. Murray, has not been found, but authorities say he did not survive the crash.

"The house was a total loss. The plane went right into the center of the house," said Mike Jachles, Broward Sheriff's Office spokesman.

A neighbour rushed over and knocked on windows before the heat became too intense. Firefighters immediately attended to the blaze and tried to determine the amount of aircraft fuel present in the area. The plane also took out power lines in its descent resulting in a loss of power to 1,645 homes in the neighbourhood.

The intended destination was Fernandina Beach, Florida. Chaz Adams, from the Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport, reported that the plane radioed back to the tower for permission to turn around due to problems in flight.


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Why not just vote on it? What happen too our democracy. Its new york I expect Gay marriage to be legalize in fair vote.--66.229.26.39 20:09, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

 * There will be a vote on it. They're called representatives for a reason.  If someone wants to hold a referrendum, they're still free to do so by collecting enough signatures from voters.  216.59.253.42 02:08, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

 * should people be allowed to vote to prevent heteros from marrying? why then, would we allow a vote for homos?  we do not live a democracy, but is rather a constitutional republic, where the rights of the minority are protected against the whim the of the majority. - Imind (talk) 19:59, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

SAME SEX MARRIAGE
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 * How about a bill to ban ALLCAPS typing? Cary Bass (talk) 06:32, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


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Talk:Anti-tax tea parties held across the USA

Million?
I read the USA Today source, as I - frankly - think WND is a piece of shit. I simply do not find it credible that there were a million people at any one specific rally. Of the photos on the USA Today article, most protests look like 1-2,000 tops. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:14, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

In regards to the above comment, you may be onto something. The last grassroots "tea party" incident that occurred ended up being revealed as a corporate-sponsored clandestine anti-Obama event (see: http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/03/did_playboy_just_disappear_an.php). I think WikiNews had an article on it, but it may have been deleted since users found multiple sources contradicting the so-called grassroots nature of the event. 24.65.79.139 05:30, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

It's quite controversial for a supposedly neutral news site as Wikinews to posit that these parties were 'grassroot' when many sources has found it to be 'astroturf'. --80.161.138.249 08:36, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Brian McNeil, WND did not indicate that a million people were at any one specific rally, but that all the rallies total had 1 million or so people. It is also why I included the Americans for Tax Reform's numbers.  As far as the pot shots about them being "a corporate-sponsored clandestine anti-Obama event" and thus we should not run the article, I was going to add more information about that possibility but I was running out of time as far as being "stale" that I felt could not spend more time on the article.  If you go follow the link to the Wikipedia article it will show that some news outlets were attempting to frame them as 'astroturf' while many source indicated that it was grassroots with some organizations trying to assist them.  The event did happen so it does need to be reported not swept under a rug even if it is an 'astroturf' event.  —Spshu (talk) 14:44, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


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Talk:Afghanistan women protest Shia Family Law

Re NPOV
This article has quotations from both the women protestors and Shia clergy, so it does show both sides of the Shia Family Law and both the protestor's and the counterdemonstrator's quotes fairly evenly back and forth. Most of what is stated which is of an opinion is actually a quotation by someone and not by me.03:21, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * My problem with the title is that equates a group of 100 to 200 to all Afghan women. There is really nothing to demonstrate that all or even a majority of women are protesting the "Family Law". Note that I didn't protest against the body of the article. --SVTCobra 00:18, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


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Twelve injured in Washington after ride at fair topples over

April 19, 2009 At least twelve children have been injured after a swing ride at the Puyallup, Washington Spring Fair toppled over.

The ride is called a 'LollySwing', which is located in Kiddyland, where the riders sit in swings while the machine spins them around. It is owned by Funtastic Traveling Shows which has been a ride provider for the fair for over 50 years. The accident happened at around 6:30 p.m. (PDT).

Injuries are being described as mostly cuts and bruises, but one child was reported to have been in a neck brace and was taken to a local hospital. Five other children were also hospitalized.

According to one witness, "it just all of a sudden topped over." The cause is under investigation. The ride has been at the fair for the past five years. Among the seven largest operators of fair rides in Washington, from 2001 to 2007 there were only seven reports of injuries related to mechanical failures.


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Jailed American journalist in Iran sentenced to eight years in prison

April 18, 2009

, 31, an Iranian-American journalist who was accused of spying on Iran, has been sentenced to eight years in prison. This marks the first time that an Iranian court has convicted and sentenced a journalist who they accused of spying.

"The eight-year sentence is true. I will appeal the verdict," said Abdul-Samad, Saberi's attorney. Saberi could have been sentenced the maximum of 10 years in prison, under Iranian law. The court did not allow Saberi's lawyer to ask for.

Saberi was originally arrested then charged for purchasing alcoholic beverages and reporting without the proper media credentials. During the trial, Iranian officials accused her of spying and sending information to U.S. intelligence agencies overseas. According to Iran's national media, Saberi admitted to spying.

"It's normal for somebody who has violated our law to be sentenced. It has nothing to do with [international] bargaining chips or with President Obama. [...] I do hope her case will be soon over, but Iran has its own national interests, and issues such as nuclear technology are sensitive and some countries are trying to undermine our interests through someone posing as a journalist," said a former spokesman for in Iran.

The U.S. condemns the arrest and sentence calling the charges against Saberi "baseless and without foundation." They call for Saberi's immediate release.

Saberi was working for and National Public Radio (NPR) which is located in Washington, D.C.. She was arrested two months ago, but according to NPR, Saberi has been in custody for three months.


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Comments:Anti-tax tea parties held across the USA

Why protest? I love giving my money to Obama so he can keep killing brown people with his blackberry!Soapy (talk) 18:01, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

These protests weren't anti-tax, they were pro-Fox News. All Obama's done is cut taxes so far, for crying out loud. -- 24.191.234.242 12:26, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

The daily show made a good point. Fox news calls protesters of Bush's presidency anti-patriotic/terrorists/communists and says they have no right to protest. But when the right protests, all is well and protests are good for the US. Fair and balanced. It really bugs me that the same people who call for "national unity" with Bush are calling for "succeeding from the union" now. Ridiculous. --24.242.219.222 03:21, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Protest is a good thing in an open democracy. I support the Obama administration and do not agree with the protestors message (what exactly was their message? Being taxed is part of being governed, I'm all for paying no more taxes than is nessesary but I still want to have a functioning state at the end of the day) however I would defend to the death their right to protest.--71.98.160.127 03:38, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

 * All the loyal obama cultist are all out. And all you miss what their message (don't blame you MSNBC and CNN has become state run news) they are against gov pork that give the gov power over both states and the banks that don't want the money and it was anti democrat and anti republican. 24.192 taxes are going up. 24.242 the daily show made no point or comparison by showing an "feminist" group aka Code pink which want the Terrorist to win in Afghanistan and Iraq then citizens who are tired of the Gov out of control. And remember all that succeeding from Jesusland when Bust was president? I bet you don't beside succession is a Democrat thing anyway and 71. Already answer it in the beginning. Glad I could help clear your mind of the Liberal/propaganda you are being feed.

--KDP3 (talk) 06:28, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I like paying taxes; with them I buy civilisation. --Brian McNeil / talk 06:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow KDP3 I seriously hope that is a joke because the way you are talking is why the majority of Americans don't take the conservative movement seriously anymore 96.244.205.177 01:05, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


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Eighteen killed in mine blast in China, officials say

April 18, 2009

According to state television, at least eighteen people have been killed and a further six injured after an explosion at a coal mine in central China.

The incident occurred during the afternoon on Friday April 17 at the Qingshanbei mine in Chenzhou city, located in the Hunan province. An employee for the city's coal industry bureau told the Agence France-Presse (AFP) news agency that an explosives warehouse and detonator exploded, saying that "up to this morning we have confirmed there are 18 dead and three injured."

The Xinhua News Agency reports that two other people had been reported missing after the explosion. Police have suggested that the explosives may have been stored illegally.

China is reported to have some of the world's most dangerous mines. Official reports state that no less than 3,786 miners were killed in accidents in the country in 2007. The safety record has been slightly improving, however, as the death toll for 2008 saw a fifteen percent drop, with 3,215 miner deaths from accidents. The decrease was in part, due to a crackdown on unsafe mines by the authorities. The actual death toll may be higher, however, as many legally-operated mines frequently do not report or hide fatalities in order not to be suspended from operating by the government.


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Clock
What's with the clock in the middle of the main page banner? It would make sense if it told the right time, otherwise some other graphic might better represent what it links to. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:55, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Clicking on it, I think it has something todo with it being American daylight saving today. However when you click it the targeted section is wrong. It should be "#2007" not "#From_2007_on". Rambo's Revenge (talk) 14:31, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Windows 7 Lead
The lead for the Windows 7 story has grammar and style problems. It currently reads:

Microsoft has been accused of forcing users to run their own software while competitor products get pushed out of the market because of this.

Where it should read:

In the past, Microsoft has been accused of forcing users to run only Microsoft software, causing competitor products to be pushed out of the market.

I fixed it in the article already.

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Design
Why was the original reporting templates removed from the main page? Honestly IMO the stock template is useless on the front page since we cannot have the DOW jones on there. Plus our OR is most important and should always be on the min page. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:08, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

 * I didn't remove them, just placed them a little further down the page to fill in the ugly whitespace that used to be there. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 20:02, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

 * On second thought, perhaps the OR and recent interviews should have stayed at the top. I moved them back. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 20:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ahhh ok. I didn't scroll all the way down actually. Sorry about that. I usually notice it on the front page without having to scroll that far down. I must have just not noticed them there. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:07, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

I am all for being bold and changing up the main page, but the edits I reverted, I just thought were too much. I like the idea of the category configuration, but only having our top cats...aka World, crime and law, etc. I just thought is was not good looking otherwise. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Dow Jones
I'm new to wikinews, but not wikimedia. I was looking at the 5 stock markets at the bottom and wondered why the dow jones wasnt there? Seddon (talk) 19:11, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Not sure about that. Something to ask at the water cooler, perhaps? ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 19:19, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The DOW Jones made us stop using their numbers. They wrote to WMF and basically told them to remove it or pay for it. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:42, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, very formal letter from the people running the DJIA. Advice from legal counsel (Mike Godwin) was to drop it before we started getting bills with telephone numbers on them. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:49, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I still think we can get away with showing the daily DOW close. they cannot stop us from doing that. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * There's nothing stopping us reporting the closing value in an article, but I'd be very wary of publishing it like the others - particularly as this might mistakenly be taken for current value. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well to fix that issue, we just list the closing number for each if we wanted :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * This is what happens when you allow The Great Satan (Rupert Murdoch) to take over a stock exchange. Gopher65talk 00:26, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed. But they cannot stop the fair use we have, to be able to use their closing number. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

lead-->lede
This is so grating and obvious, that it must have been covered before. but tradition is that the first few sentences of an article is called the lede, not the lead to avoid confusion with the lead type. For someone versed in news print production, it is extremely amateurish for me to see the word "lead." it looks unprofessional and simply inaccurate. -Drawnmotor3 (talk) 04:16, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Granted, I've never heard the term before Dictionary.com seems to agree. Though it also says that lead is acceptable use.  What I've got to ask... where do you see this that is such a problem? There are only 3 usages of "lead" on the main page.  Specifically "Edit Lead".  In those cases it is used correctly as it is saying "Edit this lead article", and they are the LEAD as they are the forefront of the page. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 06:05, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Didn't see this until now, but Drawnmotor3 is correct. However, because Wikinews is not be definition a newspaper, nor can the leading of the type be easily changed (at least not in the same way that you could in Quark or InDesign, etc., I don't think this will be a problem.) 19:15, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The 'lede' of an article is the introductory sentence or paragraph. Look at the BBC news site to see this; the lede is in bold on most articles. 'Lead', in the context which it is used on the Wikinews main page is, as in 'leading article'. Take it as being perhaps a broadcast context - you don't 'lede your report with the story about Zaphod stealing a spaceship' - you 'lead with the story about Zaphod stealing a spaceship'. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Main page design
Regarding, agree with , I like this version better. Cirt (talk) 20:58, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

 * My apologies. I was trying to be bold ... but I should have sought consensus first on something like this. Now that I saved it, it does look pretty bad. Sorry. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 21:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You could try a sandbox in a subpage off your userspace? Cirt (talk) 21:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I already did. See here: User:Tempodivalse/Alternate Main Page. It didn't look so bad there... ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 21:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I commented under the design section. Basically I am all for being bold...I love being bold. I liked the way you had the cats, BloodRedSandman has a good Idea on his design with the cats: Should just be our top cats aka World, crime and law, etc. I like the header as simple as possible, but with the occasional addition of a holiday icon or the likes. I really didn't look past the header and cats before I decided to revert.BUT that said, be bold with the main page! I love that...just well...test it :-P DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:10, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

OK, I changed the page again, but not so radically as before. I think it looks okay now. However, if someone disagrees and reverts, I promise I will not change again without asking first. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 23:13, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * While looking at other news sites, I saw some secondary lead-type things, so I followed the trend of being bold and added it. R .T . 00:09, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Also ,I think that the articles on the left could be replaced with something much more compact, any ideas are welcome. R .T . 00:17, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I like your new layout, looks very professional! ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 00:30, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I am not too fond of the past articles being scroll down as opposed to pull down. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:38, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. The scroll-down looks out-of-place and contrasts too much with the style of the rest of the page. DSollick (talk) 01:45, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I removed the frame to try to get it to blend in more. I prefer the scroll, because then there is no whitespace at the bottom of the page. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 02:04, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

 * first reaction— OMG! redesign. :D. But I likey. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Some contents (take all these with a grain of salt, it looks great). It might be better if the text indent on the ticker dissapeared for the redesign. (override the css rules at mediawiki:Common.css/Main_Page). Main lead headlines look a little inconsistant with secondary headlines. I agree that the article's of the day overflow mechanism/scroll bar looks slightly out of place, but it isn't too bad. Perhaps some sort of JS down arrow at the bottom to page the recent articles would be better. It also might be good to have a more link on the country list. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * [edit conflict] I was just thinking, perhaps we should hide the edit lead links from users who are not autoconfirmed. (This could probably be acomplished by js putting a class on the body of main page if user is autoconfirmed, and then having display:none;'s in the css). What is people's thoughts on doing that. The links really aren't all that useful if you can't edit semi-protected things. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:47, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

 * You guys should really consider putting less stuff on the home page. There is hardly any breathing room!  Sometimes, less truly is more. -- Poe Joe (talk) 04:44, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

If we are going to have leads on the main page then we should have at least 3. If only 2, then why bother? Also i think the text for the synopsises are absolutely horrid. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:44, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

 * In my opinion, the inclusion of Secondary articles means that we are highlighting as many as seven articles. That is usually the entire output (and sometimes more) of a day's articles. We are basically highlighting every article. it is overkill. --SVTCobra 23:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Why was everything reverted? I thought the page looked well with the 2 leads and the scroll bar -- that way, the white space at the bottom of the page would be much less variable. Currently, I think the page looks less tidy. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 23:04, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

 * When the latest news bar (the scroll thing) overflows, it gives the complete main page a horizontal scroll bar (Firefox on Mac), which really looks bad. Besides that, I really agree with Poe Joe that the main page is too crowded. Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk) 23:05, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The news ticker overlaps because of the crazy long title. It should only be like that until the next day, if the ticker is programmed correctly. As to the revert: I did it for most of the reasons described above. We don't need to highlight every article on WN. I like the 3 or 4 lead layout. If we have anything less than 3, its almost like saying why have any at all? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:11, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, I am not too fond of the secondary articles...perhaps because it is indeed just too much perhaps. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

 * OK. I replaced the secondary articles list with leads three and four, I agree it was overkill previously. Perhaps we can use secondary articles later, when we have more articles. Is everybody satisfied now? ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 23:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks better now...yes I think when there are days that we have a lot of articles, the secondary articles can be used. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Is it OK if I return the scroll to the recent headlines? It doesn't look all that obtrusive, and it will help avoid whitespaces at the bottom. Also,.it makes the page more compact. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 23:34, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * There is still something screwy in there. I scrolled down to look at the whole page, then when I scrolled back to the top of the page my browser window started displaying a horizontal scroll bar. I scrolled right to see what was causing this, and as I scrolled down the page to see what it was, the horizontal scrollbar vanished. This is with latest Firefox on XP Pro. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:41, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * This is caused by the ticker, which stretches out to the right when there isn't enough room to display a headline. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 23:45, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Four leads is acceptable (although I would prefer two), but if I may make some additional recommendations:
 * Remove the scroll bar, as I find it quite annoying to look at a changing bar (imho). If we keep it, then the bar should make sure it doesn't scroll when titles are longer than the bar. There will be many more articles with long titles, so it looks kind of unprofessional when it gives the whole page a horizontal scroll bar.
 * Remove the most popular articles section. Possibly instead mention in the overview by date, behind the link, when the link (thus the article) is popular.
 * Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk) 23:38, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Minor: There is a  above the right upper lead. Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk) 23:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

 * No, no. I meant the scroll bar that used to be on the Latest news template (vertical one, it's not there currently). I agree that the horizontal one should be fixed somehow. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 23:42, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Like I said before...I see no point in having less than three leads. Less than three is just making s look like we are too lazy to update anything and are trying to do the least amount of work possible. I have to object to anything less than 3. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:45, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

 * I prefer an even number; 3 makes us look like we have normally 4 leads, but we couldn't find more than 3. So kind of your point. I think 4 is fine for now. Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk) 23:51, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

 * For the horiz. scroll bar, it could probably be fixed by either the Ticker getting cut off (overflow:hidden), or the ticker going to two lines when its too long. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:37, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I took a look at the wikicode (and I must say, I'm utterly amazed that all bloody works. It is very very convoluted, there are divs within divs within divs, within div like things (<center>) within tables within tables. Each layer seems to add its own style rules, which contradict the previous layer. Some contradict themselves (width:50%;white-space:no-wrap for thing wider than the page). Anyways, I got rid of the ugly horizontal scroll bar (due to comments above) by doing the following

We should _really_ consider cleaning up the mess of tables, and separating the content from presentation (or even just keep the presentation stuff self-consistent and without random invalid code). Bawolff ☺☻ 04:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Made the country lists wrap if they exceed the page width instead of making a scroll bar
 * Made any overflow from the ticker silently dissapear
 * I'm unsure if this is the best solution, other options are:
 * Make font size of ticker smaller
 * Make it go to two lines (this requires the height of it to change dynamically [kind of annoying] or the ticker to have an extra blank line at the bottom most of the time. neither are satisfactory).

While I'm still undecided on the overall layout of the new page, can we _please_ return the font to the default, matching that used on article pages? As it is it looks clunky. John Darrow (talk) 20:23, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. font should be consistent throughout the site. Either Veranda everywhere, or whatever we have as default (just generic sans-serif?) everywhere. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:15, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Overlap

This is happening for me, on IE 6 running on XP, the usual corporate world setup. -- Zanimum (talk) 12:27, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought IE6 was no longer supported. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:43, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Might not be supported by Microsoft anymore. But where I'm working on contract, the Region of Peel, they're very tech-cautious, and haven't upgraded past that version. Either way, a site I run for a non-profit has had 4,699 pageviews in the last month, around 15.68% use IE 6, so it is very much still in use. Presumably our audience is more tech-savvy than most, and upgrades more often, but perhaps they aren't. --  Zanimum (talk) 13:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Call me cynical, but some of those IE6 installs you're seeing in weblogs will be because the machine is so compromised that it can't get updates anymore. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:51, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The portals section has some overlap for me, too. I am using Firefox 3.0.7 on XP. It is not nearly as bad as what Zanimum illustrated, but it still overlaps. --SVTCobra 22:56, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I am on the latest FireFox and I am on XP and I report that mine is absolutely perfect. I think this is a monitor size issue or screen resolution maybe? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:59, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you have a widescreen monitor? The overlap I see is only minor, the names of portals bleed over the down arrow for opening the latest articles. --SVTCobra 23:07, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope. I have a standard monitor. Without getting out a ruler though, I cannot say its size other than its fairly normal for the average computer owner. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Is this caused by the scroll on recent headlines? I don't see anything. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 23:20, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * This is what I see:

I am running Firefox at 1024 by 768 on a Windows XP system. --SVTCobra 23:25, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, I'm getting that one too. Looks like the text size is too big? ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 23:26, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah yes I see it...ever so slight but I see it on mine too...maybe text size or boldness? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:31, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * That's caused by a combination of browser settings (text size) and screen resolution. I have my text size set big so that I can sit a little ways back from my computer and still read everything ok, and I have that problem on a good many websites. Gopher65talk 00:12, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I do not believe this is caused by weird res/font size. Nothing is absolute/relative positioned (that i saw), so that really shouldn't happen. In addition on firefox 2.0.0.17 I was unable to replicate the described problem, despite using all sorts of extreme font sizes/resolutions. (although its possible someone changed the design before i tried to get things to overlap). Anyways, I have no idea why that would be happening. (But IE never gives reasons :P) ( Note, there is a slight overlap between the down arrow on navBoxes and the nav box title. I don't think thats what is being referred to, correct me if i'm wrong nevermind, I see some people are referring to that. That is a known issue that no one has ever gotten around to fixing, and was present before the new main page. Zanimum's issue is caused by something else.) Bawolff ☺☻ 04:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: The problem described by Zaninum could result if the overflow property was dropped or set to visible, however IE has supported that property since version 4 (according to w3schools). Bawolff ☺☻ 04:42, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Problem that DF and SVT are reporting should be fixed. (may have to do a hard refresh). Bawolff ☺☻ 04:59, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm on this resolution and screen setting: 1280 x 1024 px "HP L1740 flat panel monitor on Intel 82945G Express Chipset Family". I've done a hard refresh and it still happens. --  Zanimum (talk) 12:39, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm seeing it too, as illustrated. Note the red box is an artifact of the screenshot process and not part of the page I see. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:48, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * To clarify my previous comment, the problem DF and SVT were reporting is fixed. The original issue on internet explorer still remains (I need to track down a version of IE to look at it, which should happen fairly soon). Bawolff ☺☻ 19:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Got to a computer with IE7. As far as i can tell, the issue is the result of position:relative and overflow:auto not playing nicely together. It appears as if IE puts the relativly positioned object where they would be if the overflow on the ansestor divs were set to visible as oposed to auto. Not entirely sure how to fix this, (time for google ;). Bawolff ☺☻ 19:21, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

 * I know how to fix the problem: get off IE and start using a real web browser. [[Image:Smile.png]] The main page scroll looks just fine in Firefox. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 19:35, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Here here. :P (I have it partially fixed. The portal nav boxes are still messed up, but the other nav boxes in the scroll bar works). Bawolff ☺☻ 19:37, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Somewhat resolved, but not really. The portal boxes are still screwed, but they don't run into other content, and are only noticable when you scroll to them. If you expand the box, it will go to the right place. Giving the navbox so-called layout while it is in view seems to fix the problem. (but can't do automatically, since scrolled out of view on page load). Bawolff ☺☻ 22:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, i might have fixed it, but don't have MSIE handy to test. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope, the portal boxes are still messed up when viewed in IE (although not as bad as before). Is the scroll causing this, or is it something else? ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 22:51, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Its a combination of the scroll + the relative positioning of the drop down boxes (see here for better explanation). (They are relatively positioned so that the ↓ can go to the rigt via absolute positioning.) I thought perhaps it was the use of the table that was making my other fix not work (Ie handles tables differently from most other elements))
 * It looks like the scroll is inherently buggy in IE, and none of our efforts seem to fix it. Perhaps we should simply remove it and use a cascading template for the past week's news instead, such as this? ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 00:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah ha! now i got it (it helps to try ands fix ie bugs on a computer with Internet explorer installed). I challange anyone to find anymore bloody overlapping text :P. (might have to do a hard refresh to see changes and/or clear your cache (temporary internet files for ye Ie folks)). Bawolff ☺☻ 00:27, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Even after purging the main page in IE, I still get overlapping headers when I try to expand the cascading boxes. Also, the scroll bar for Latest news is kind of funny -- it changes length as you move it. I think we might be best off simply abandoning the scroll idea (although I liked it), and perhaps searching for alternatives on displaying the template. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 00:40, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * IE is kinda weird for caching javascript - sometimes you need to delete temporary inernet files, and refresh with a ctrl+F5 for it to refresh everything). Perhaps we should abandon it though - the reaction to it has been kind of mixed. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:56, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * There is some discussion at the "Scrolling" section below on what we could use instead of the scroll, feel free to chime in there if you have some ideas. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 01:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

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The scrolling function in the latest news looks quite silly. Can this be removed and the page put back the way it was? The Main Page on a project is supposed to be pretty stable - not have tons and tons of changes every day. Cirt (talk) 21:30, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Recommend we go back to this version before the scrolling. Cirt (talk) 22:26, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

 * I personally think the scroll is an improvement. This way, the whitespace at the bottom of the page is far less variable. Plus, it makes the page shorter and more compact. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 02:29, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Respectfully disagree - it looks tacky and silly. Cirt (talk) 04:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm of the opinion that neither one of them looks all that great. Are there any alternatives we haven't tried yet? Bawolff ☺☻ 06:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Some sort of cascading box could be an option. R .T . 11:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * We could simply get rid of it altogether, and just have a link to the latest headlines template on the main page. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 14:15, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Or perhaps we should cascade all of last week's headlines? I have an example template up at my sandbox. Is this a viable option? ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 14:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

 * This is how the main page looked like with the cascading boxes (reverted it because I wasn't sure it looked good). Thoughts? ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 22:00, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree that it doesn't look so nice, but it looks way better than the scroll bar.
 * I was thinking that we may do two pages, more or less like a regular news paper. So one page with headlines and the news of today and yesterday. And the "second page" or whatever you want to call it, with less interesting news, some tickers, some older but still popular headlines, etc. I'm not sure how to incorporate this "second page" in Wikinews, but maybe clicking one time to a different page is not so bad in comparison to scrolling a lot or clicking many times on cascading boxes. I'm not sure how to encourage people to click to this "second page", but maybe some of you have an idea? Let me know what you think (also if you think it is a ridiculous proposal). :) Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk) 22:49, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, we could do something like what Red Thunder proposed here: User:Red Thunder/Main Page Proposal. As you can see, there is no "latest news" template on his layout, instead, you are directed to the template itself for that. I think it might not be a bad idea to incorporate this. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 22:54, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm of the opinion that if we don't include an article list, many articles will simply never become a lead, and get lost through the cracks without any page views. I think some sort of list of last published on the main page is a must. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:04, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I suppose we could make use of RT's Secondary articles template instead, which should be enough to highlight a day's worth of articles. Either that, or perhaps use cascading boxes for Latest news, as I have done here. This is how the main page looked like with that template (reverted it because I wasn't sure it looked that great). ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 01:08, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Another option instead of scrolling is reducing the font size. (The "About Us" section really has a useless large font size). I found in the sources that previously a smaller Verdana font was in use (the source of the main page is quite messy if you ask me). Also I see often , which should of course be   . I moved things around a bit on my sandbox. Van der Hoorn (talk) 17:56, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

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User:Laslovarga

Mostly, you can contact me here:
 * My Wikinews page on Serbian language

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tempo divalse  23:57, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Reply
I have replied at User talk:Computerjoe. Computerjoe 's talk 23:46, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

hey what do you think about my article?
i need somebody to check to see it's it right. Here is mines http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Now_Britain_sends_in_Apache_attack_helicopters_as_Tripoli_is_battered_with_heaviest_air_strikes_yet

Also how can i draw into people from commenting and seeing this?

I tried to type in British send in heli's but this did not come up. Mamamia (talk) 03:44, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

do i have to add it within my own words?
yes for the article you just erased?

Re
I have asked you couple questions at your application for accredited reporter status, here. I should've asked earlier, sorry. Gryllida 20:36, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

 * I too have asked a question there (and yes, we were slow getting to the request). I hope to understand the request better.  --Pi zero (talk) 21:29, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

 * I've asked another set of questions at the request page. (Sorry all this didn't get started about two weeks ago when you first submitted the request; I guess the community just got distracted somehow.)  --Pi zero (talk) 11:58, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear: I'm not trying to give you a hard time.  More like, I'm trying to understand better, for myself and for others, your philosophy toward news.  I'm really looking forward to supporting your request for accreditation, and since Bddpaux has in good faith raised a concern, I feel these things should be clarified rather than just overriding him.  --Pi zero (talk) 15:15, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Soccer Stadium in Hamilton host of Pan Am Soccer Tournament
Hi. Some difficulties here; please see my review comments. --Pi zero (talk) 12:16, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Please do ask any questions. We certainly want to do all we can to help.  --Pi zero (talk) 12:28, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ok, thanks László  (talk)  13:00, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

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Suicide bomb kills at least twenty in northwestern Pakistan

April 19, 2009

Local police have reported that a has killed at least twenty people and injured a further thirteen after attacking a military  close to the tribal  region of northwestern Pakistan. The attack happened close to a checkpoint in the city of on Saturday.

The incident occurred at 16:10 local time (10:10 GMT). "The bomber was driving a pick-up truck which he rammed into a convoy passing by a security checkpost," said senior police officer Fareed Khan. "At the moment, I can say at least 20 people, including soldiers and policemen, were killed." He added that two civilians and eighteen security personnel were among the killed, and the number of casualties would possible increase, as seven of those wounded were in critical condition.

The explosion was powerful enough to have damaged ten vehicles of the army convoy, as well as a police van stationed near the post.

, the, denounced the attack, describing it as "cowardly act of terrorism". He pledged that he would use an "iron hand" against insurgents.

A spokesman for, the chief of the Taliban, said by telephone to news agencies that rebels will continue to attack the security forces.

"It was retaliation for the US drone strikes and security forces will have to see more attacks because our people have suffered many losses in the missile attacks," the spokesman stated.


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Six-year-old boy on vacation in Venezuela dies in plane crash

April 19, 2009

Six-year-old Thomas David Horne from the United Kingdom has died and eleven other British tourists were injured Friday when their plane crashed in Canaima National Park in Venezuela. They were on a sight seeing tour of the world's tallest waterfalls, the Angel Falls.

The single engine, nine-seater Cessna 208 Caravan, lifted off shortly before the end of the runway, lost power, and then surged briefly before plummeting into the Venezuelan jungle in front of the 3,200 ft falls.

"It started to take off and we sensed it was losing power. Then it seemed to get it back and lifted off just 200 metres before the end of the runway. Then it dived into the trees," reported Makeli Freire, a park tour guide.

Three of the injured sustained serious injuries, while the others suffered mainly broken bones. Thomas Horne, who sustained serious head injuries, died on the way to a local hospital. The pilot, co-pilot and tour guide were among the injured. Everyone on board was flown to Ciudad Bolívar, the capital city of Venezuela's Bolívar state, where they were treated for their injuries. Among the injured were Thomas's mother and father Jane and David who were among those who had broken bones. They were British tourists finishing up a two week holiday to Venezuela.

"The young boy died as he was being flown to hospital. His parents are both physically OK but are completely distraught over the loss of their son," said Maiker Puga, of the Ciudad Bolivar clinic.

Liz and her husband Keith Grainger and S. Phillips, also British tourists, were also injured in the crash. The names of the three other British tourists and the three person crew who were injured have not been released at this time.

The plane tour was offered by First Choice, a division of TUI Travel PLC who extended their "heartfelt sympathy to family and friends during this deeply sad time." LTA airline has suspended further flights until the investigation is concluded.

June Holman, Thomas's aunt who was not on holidays said, that "there is nothing worse than losing a loved one, especially not a young child with their whole life ahead of them. The thoughts of us all are with his parents Jane and Dave at this very sad time."


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Boy seated on parent's probably mum's laps??
From the head count on I am thinking that there was not a seat nor a seat belt for 6 year old Thomas on the nine seater plane... mum unfortunately had a broken jaw and the boy had head injuries. Is this kind of deduction ever reported on wikinews, or is the investigator's report or other news reporter's articles necessary? SriMesh | talk  01:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


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Belgian ship hijacked off Horn of Africa by Somali pirates

April 19, 2009 A Belgian ship has been hijacked by Somali pirates in waters off the coast of the Horn of Africa, according to a Belgian government's crisis management centre spokesman. The vessel involved in the incident was the 65-metre, 1,850 Pompei, en route to the Seychelles islands, located further south.

The ship sent out two alarms at 04.30 and 05.00 GMT on Friday. Aboard the vessel were ten crew members, including four Croatians, three Filipinos, two Belgians and the Dutch captain.

"The ship has been spotted and we can confirm that it has been taken hostage," Benoit Ramacker of the crisis management centre said.

Meanwhile, in the Gulf of Aden, located further north, a NATO commander announced that the authorities had responded from a distress call sent by a Marshall Islands tanker, which had also come under attack by pirates.

Piracy is rampant in the waters off Africa's eastern shores, with sixty ships having been hijacked by pirates since the beginning of last year.


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en:User:Rsrikanth05 Catch me at the English Wikipedia Rsrikanth05 --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 08:34, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

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I've completed all of them. If you need any more to be done, don't hesitate to ask. Cheers. tempo divalse  14:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

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Sebastian Vettel wins wet 2009 Chinese Grand Prix

April 19, 2009

Red Bull Racing driver Sebastian Vettel won the rainy 2009 Chinese Grand Prix at Shanghai International Circuit, Shanghai, China. His teammate Mark Webber came second with a substantial gap of more than 10 seconds. Vettel's first win for Toro Rosso was the wet race at Monza last year.

This season's debutant Brawn GP team drivers Jenson Button and Rubens Barrichello were less quick than in two previous races, finishing after the Red Bull cars.

McLaren-Mercedes driver Heikki Kovalainen profited from his teammate's error, finishing in front of Lewis Hamilton; the pair took fifth and sixth places respectively.

Timo Glock came seventh for Toyota, while his teammate Jarno Trulli was taken out by Robert Kubica's BMW Sauber when it smashed into the rear of Trulli's Toyota.

Sébastien Buemi closed the top eight, bringing one point for Toro Rosso. Buemi's teammate Sébastien Bourdais finished eleventh.

The start and the first eight laps behind the safety car forced Fernando Alonso, who qualified second for Renault yesterday, to pit and drop down to the last place. He finished ninth ahead of Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen.

Adrian Sutil's Force India slipped on the wet track and was taken out from the sixth place after Hamilton pushed on him in attempt to regain the position lost to Sutil.

Button and Barrichello now lead the championship with 21 and 15 points apiece. Vettel and Glock behind them with ten points, others less. Constructor's standings are currently led by the Brawn-Mercedes team with 36 points, Red Bull and Toyota come up at some distance of 16.5 and 17.5 points behind.


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Russia ends "counterterrorism operation" in Chechnya

April 25, 2009 The Russian government announced the termination of its "counterterrorism operation" in Chechnya effective April 16. According to the leader of the Russian secret service, Alexander Bortnikov, 20,000 soldiers will leave Chechnya in order to normalise the situation in the autonomous republic of Russia. This happened on behalf of the Russian president Dmitry Medvedev who had already announced a possible withdrawal of the Russian troops at the G20 summit in the beginning of April this year. But some forces, the special forces of Moscow's ministry of the interior, will still stay in Chechnya.

Human rights activist Lew Ponomarjov welcomed the situation, saying that the counterterrorism situation in Chechnya had been a severe violation of human rights.

Local president Ramzan Kadyrov, son of former Chechen leader Akhmad Kadyrov who died in a bomb blast in 2004 in Grozny, is satisfied with the situation. He is now expecting more foreign investment and a better economic growth in the area. He declared April 16 as a future holiday in Chechnya. Human rights organisations, on the other hand, accuse him of letting his own militia torture and kill his opponents.

In the meantime, the local president Ramzan Kadyrov has informed the heads of the regional administration about the end of the operation and advised them yesterday to let the former militants return to a peaceful civilian life, Vesti.ru reports. But at the same time he settled that the rule should not apply to those rebels who had become extremists. These people — according to Kadyrov mostly living in the mountains — would not deserve any amnesty and not any public pardon, Kadyrov said.

While there were some reports on a gun battle between Russian and rebels forces in southern Chechnya, Kadyrov said on April 21 that they had checked the reports, but did not believe that anything had changed since last week. He questioned the timing of the reports which had appeared right after the news was spread that the Russian soldiers would leave Chechnya.

Tuesday, the operative headquarters for Chechnya claimed that the Russian special police and troops had already started an "anti-terrorism operation" in the Itum-Kale and Vedeno, two Chechen districts. A spokesman said that they had "received information that Chechen militants were preparing terrorist acts" there. And so they had continued with the operation. Operations in further districts were announced on Friday, according to Voice of America. This too was refuted by President Kadyrov.

RIA Novosti reported Saturday that four Russian soldiers were killed and at least three people injured in a number of shootings and bombings over the course of the past week. The firefights occurred in a Village and at a checkpoint, while the explosions all occurred near a Stadium in the capital of Grozny.

The republic of Chechnya has undergone two separatist wars in the past 15 years. The first one started in 1994 and was ended after about 21 months with the withdrawal of the Russian army. The second one started in October 1999 with the heaviest battles in 2002. Still, there is a conflict between the two parties concerning the independence of the republic from Russia. More than 100,000 people were killed in both wars, which makes about 10 per cent of the population of Chechnya. The announcement of the withdrawal of the Russian forces is seen as an official ending of the second war.


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South Africa prepares for elections

April 20, 2009 Final polls show the holding a commanding lead going into Wednesday's.

A Plus 94 poll of 7000 voters showed the ruling ANC with 60% support, with the and  neck-in-neck on 16% and 15% respectively.

An Ipsos Markinor poll of 3,531 voters showed the ANC with 64.7%, Democratic Alliance with 10.8%, and Congress of the People with 8.9%. 4.2% were, while 3.9% refused to state a preference.

Meanwhile, the main political parties have held their final. Former President appeared at the ANC's final pre-election rally in Johannesburg to support presidential candidate. Mandela said that the ANC's main task was to eradicate poverty and build a better life for all.

"The ANC has the historical responsibility to lead our nation and help build a united non-racial society," he said.

Zuma promised to fight crime, boost public spending, and invest in. He also said that there would be no room for in his government, and that that ANC would not use its majority to subvert the.

"Our track record speaks for itself. We use our majority responsibly and in an inclusive manner. In 15 years that [the ANC] has been in power, it has never used its electoral mandate to change the constitution," he said.

The ANC is hoping to repeat its success in the and win a two-thirds majority, enabling it to change the constitution at will.

Supporters of the rival Congress of the People, which split from the ANC last year, held their rally in.

The main opposition party, the Democratic Alliance, held its rally in Cape Town. Opposition leader reminded her supporters of past allegations of corruption and  against Zuma, and warned that his election would turn South Africa into a "".

"In 10 years time people will look back and everyone will know the DA was telling the truth from the start," she said.

400 representatives will be elected by in Wednesday's poll, half from national and half from provincial lists. Forty parties are contesting the elections, and 23 million South Africans are.

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The Zuma picture is a dog, but there's which is CCLed; is that a compatible licence to use?

Other possible artwork: --IdiotSavant (talk) 13:25, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
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Egyptian archaeologist finds artifacts which may lead to Cleopatra's tomb

April 19, 2009

Zahi Hawass, Egypt's pre-eminent archaeologist, revealed the first which may lead to the discovery of  and 's resting place. The expedition has found s, 22 bronze coins cast with Cleopatra's image and her name, a royal statue, an mask resembling Marc Antony, and a  of Cleopatra. "If you look at the face of Mark Antony, many believed he had this cleft on his chin and that's why I thought this could be Mark Antony," said Hawass.

"In my opinion, if this tomb is found, it will be one of the most important discoveries of the 21st century because of the love between Cleopatra and Mark Antony, and because of the sad story of their death. This is the perfect place for them to be hidden," said Hawass.

Recently, outside the temple colourful mummies of nobles were excavated at a neighbouring. These discoveries have lead the archaeologists to believe that a ruler or person of royalty is interred within the temple itself. It was the practice of the to assemble the tombs of persons of status and other high ranking officials near their rulers.

"The discovery of the cemetery this week really convinced me that there is someone important buried inside this temple. No one would be buried outside a temple without a reason. We saw that in the pharaonic days, they were always ," explained Hawass.

"She needed a place to be protected in the afterlife. If she had used the other burial site, she would have disappeared forever," said Kathleen Martinez, a Dominican archaeologist. She feels that "it could be Taposiris Magna because it was the most sacred temple of its time."

Dr. Roger Vickers team used radar to locate three chambers within the rocky hill atop of which is the Temple of Taposiris Magna dedicated to the goddess Isis. The temple was constructed about 300 BC by.

The (SCA) expedition led by Hawass has yet to excavate the burial chambers 40 feet (12 meters) underground where they hope to find a crown or  {{w|cartouche]]s revealing the names of royalty. The team will employ radar again on April 22.

The Supreme Council of Antiquities expedition consists of Zahi Hawass, Secretary General of the SCA, and Martinez who has extensively researched the life of Cleopatra. According to {{w|Plutarch}} who studied {{w|Roman}} history, Caesar allowed Marc Antony and Cleopatra to be buried in the same tomb.

Alexandria is located about {{mi to km|30}} from the Temple of Taposiris Magna. The {{w|archaeological site}} is on a hill along the {{w|Mediterranean Sea}} overlooking the summer home of Hosni Mubarak, president of Egypt. The archaeologists fear they may have to postpone work for security reasons over the summer months.

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tempo divalse  19:09, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

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Hi! I noticed you were uncertain of which categories to use, as in this edit. I'd like to suggest HotCat, which is basically a semi-automated tool that suggests categories that you can use in an article. If you want to use it, simply go to Special:Preferences, choose the "Gadgets" tab, and select the "HotCat" box. Thanks and welcome once again to Wikinews. If you need any help, don't hesitate to drop a line at my talk page. tempo divalse  19:45, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks i just added it. --Rugguert (talk) 19:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

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Hello there, you are adding quite a few articles with references which is awesome! Is there anyway you could bring them up to three paragraphs (minimum) in length to be of an actual article size? Kind Regards and good luck!SriMesh | talk  23:39, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

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65th human bird flu case reported In Egypt

April 19, 2009

The Egyptian Health Ministry stated Friday that a 25-year-old woman from a northern neighborhood in the capital of Cairo had contracted the deadly H5N1 strain of the bird flu. Health Ministry spokesman Abdel Rahman Shahine said the woman had started to show symptoms on April 7 after coming into contact with dead birds.

Some 23 Egyptians have died after contracting the virus. Most came into contact with infected domestic birds in a country where roughly 5 million households depend on domestically raised poultry as a significant source of food and income.

The World Health Organization (WHO) said this month it was concerned some Egyptians may carry the bird flu virus without showing symptoms, which could give it more of a chance to mutate to a strain that spreads easily among humans.

According to the latest statistics of the WHO on its website, some 418 people in 15 countries and regions have contracted the virus and 257 of them died of the disease.


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Rugguert stubs so far one breaking story though of golf. --Rugguert (talk) 19:32, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

i like sports alot and disaster news (sad stuff usually) --Rugguert (talk) 19:44, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

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Pirate attack on Norwegian ship foiled by NATO forces

April 19, 2009

According to a spokesman for NATO, an attempted hijacking of a Norwegian tanker in the Gulf of Aden by Somali pirates has been thwarted by NATO forces.

The MV Front Ardennes came under attack by pirates in a small skiff at about 6:00 PM on Saturday. Helicopters and a warship were dispatched to rescue the vessel, and the pirates were apprehended seven hours after the initial hijacking. Officials said that pirates tried to flee in the dark, but were caught by a Canadian vessel.

Seven of the pirate gunmen were temporarily detained, but were later released. NATO spokesman Lieutenant Commander Alexandre Santos Fernandes stated that since there was no Canadian law that could have prosecuted the pirates, they had to be released.

Piracy is rife off the eastern coast of Africa; on Saturday, Somali pirates seized a Belgian ship, the Pompei, with its ten crew members, as it was headed south for the Seychelles islands. Over sixty ships, in total have been hijacked by pirates since the start of last year. Currently, pirates are thought to be holding about three hundred crew members from seventeen ships.


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Comments:Afghanistan women protest Shia Family Law

The law is despicable. This isn't what Islam is about. Islam is about service to God, not the belittlement of women. The world would be a horrible place indeed were it not for women. Is this how we are to repay them? This is the work of evil men who desire to do whatever they please with no repercussions. God have mercy on them.--72.209.8.195 20:23, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't believe in god. If I'm wrong, I - personally - hope he has absolutely no mercy on them. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:19, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

It's sick our troops are dying for this.--66.229.26.39 21:28, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Afghanistan women protest Shia Family Law (new section)
Congratulation to the Afghanistani women for knowing and demanding thier rights as human beings not as a sex object of men, who many can not control their appetitie for sex. Women thru out the world support thier rights and demands for justice and equal rights as human being to have human rights not to be used, exploited by thier men. The right to education, the right to have her own income and savings accounts, the right to vote, the right to work outside the home and exercise thier profession. The right to travel alone, if necessary, the right to protect herself and her childrens, right for education and basic needs. The right not to be abused by husband, brothers and fathers or uncle. The right to be respected as human being as they wished to be respected. The right not to be harmed. The right not to be stoned or humilated. Men doing those harm against women are savaged and uneducated.They are brute animals, harming thier own women, children and wives who were defenseless and supposed to protect and love and preserved them.

Deditha from Philippines

To TAKE ACTION against the Shi'a Personal Status Law, go to [www.npwj.org]. Join Parliamentarians, government officials, civil society leaders, and thousands of activists worldwide in calling for the repeal of the law. Sign on by sending an email to [afghanappeal@npwj.org] with your name, title and organisation (if any) as you would like it to appear in the appeal. Read the full text of the appeal at [www.npwj.org] in English, French, or Italian.

Let's see more of this
I'm totally onside with these women and I hope that we see more of the protests. Afganhistan and the other muslim states are near medieval. The law I was no better, if not worse than the one it was substituted for, where marital rape was legal. I really do hope that these protests happen more and with even more participants. I would really like to see some serious resistance to the Hamid Karzai and these insane laws he keeps coming up with. NATO soldiers are fighting and dying to restore freedom to his country and he is throwing that all away to gain some power and help himself in the next election. Shameful. Simply shameful. -72.1.206.12 13:58, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Don't See How This Would Work
I don't agree with it but if the only punishment is the husband doesn't have to feed her then I don't see why this would even work to give him control over the women. A woman could get a job, her husband could stop feeding her, and then she just takes her money from the job and buys her own food. This is really just an exception to a law that we don't even have(that the husband is legally obligated to feed his wife). There is no law like that in America. A husband does not have to feed his wife or vice versa. Of course either can get a divorce and both usually have access to each other's money, unless the prenup says otherwise.71.82.67.87 (talk) 08:36, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

In fact maybe this will have the unintended consequence of furthering women's liberation when more Afghan women get jobs so they can feed themselves and not have to submit to all of their husband's demands.71.82.67.87 (talk) 08:39, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


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