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Comments:British teenager finds baby bat in her bra

Maybe I'm just too cynical... but when I read this 'news' on the EDP website yesterday, the girl just came over as a wannabe Abi Titmuss. It seems that they both have fitting names...

There may not be any existent photo of the bat in question, but that didn't stop them from printing a photo of young Abbie Hawkins who apparently makes a habit of going out in just her 34FF padded (why?!) bra.

See pictures: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1033246/Receptionist-stunned-baby-bat-living-BRA.html

"Perhaps I should have left it there and given it a good home"

"It looked quite cosy and comfortable in there so it was quite rude of me to take it out."

Please... did she get these one liners from Sid James?

How long will it be before we see Miss Hawkins on the cover of Loaded/FHM/Nuts/Zoo/Maxim/Insert-name-of-disreputable-magazine-here? It's almost enough to make you wonder if the bat existed at all...

Oh... and well done to the BBC for being the first to sink low enough to publish her breast size. Shane.Bell (talk) 16:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

 * The story does scream "Publicity Stunt!" --SVTCobra 16:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Wait, how is this news? Weird stuff like this happens all the time. I understand the appeal of girls and their bras but this really doesn't seem like it should make it to any news source that isn't strictly local and hasn't been having a very slow news day.--76.8.194.226 00:40, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

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I would have kept the bat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.162.196 (talk) 02:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Who wouldn't snuggle up in there?
I know I would... How good it is to be small... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.151.222 (talk) 13:38, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

a perverted bat —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.99.213.42 (talk) 23:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Well perhaps it is due to Batman's movie... the little bat was trying to find a place to scape from the Joker. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.30.68.212 (talk) 00:00, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

I wish I were that bat
I wish I were that bat —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.94.54.14 (talk) 01:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


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Large earthquake hits Southern Peru, one killed

July 10, 2008 On Tuesday, an earthquake with a magnitude of 6.2 has struck the area surrounding Arequipa, Peru, killing one person and injuring several more. According to local authorities, the victim was a 93-year-old man who died when a wall from his house collapsed and crushed him.

The epicentre of the quake was 60 km away from Arequipa, and over 700 km away from the country's capital, Lima.

In addition to the injuries, damage to roads and property was also reported.

Approximately one year ago, a larger earthquake struck Southern Peru. It had a magnitude of 8.0 and it resulted in over 2000 injuries, more than 500 of which resulted in fatalities.

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Uzbekistan arms depot explosions leave three dead

July 10, 2008 An arms depot in Uzbekistan has experienced a series of explosions today after a fire at a military base near the city of Kagan, killing at least three people. The base dates back to Soviet times.

The fire broke out late Wednesday. Although information about the accident comes from officials, one official at Uzbekistan's Emergency Situations Ministry denied the report. Local media did not report the fire for at least twelve hours after it ignited, and one local resident who spoke with the Associated Press refused to be identified for fear of retribution by the authorities. The resident was quoted as saying, "we were woken up in the middle of the night and everybody came out onto the street."

Independent Russian website Ferghana.ru reports that around 20 houses, a hospital, a railway station and a helicopter base have been destroyed, and 21 people have been injured by the blasts. The biggest explosions blew out windows in Bukhara, which is 7 miles away.

The military has stopped people returning for their belongings and has placed them in schools for now. The evacuations were conducted by soldiers who are also working to quell the flames.

It is thought that the fire started in the helicopter base and, despite efforts by soldiers, it then spread to the supplies of shells. The risk of more blasts is hampering investigatory efforts, but it is reported by a local official that the fire has been extinguished.

"I was working on my laptop when I heard a massive explosion which broke the windows. Then the sky lit up like at dawn," said one resident. The explosions started three hours after the fire initially broke out.

Kagan has a population of 50,000 and is an important part of the local rail network. The town's phone lines have become inoperative due to the blasts, and rail services from the capital, Tashkent, have been canceled. The military currently has the town sealed off.

Defense Minister Ruslan Mirzayev traveled to the site. The base was used to store unused munitions after the Soviet-Afghan War.


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Salmonella outbreak sickens over one thousand in United States

July 10, 2008 Over 1000 cases of illness have now been identified in a foodborne salmonellosis outbreak that began in mid-April 2008 in the United States.

As of July 8, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has reported 1013 confirmed infections throughout the United States, along with four cases in Canada. 203 hospitalizations have been linked to the outbreak. It has caused at least one death, and it may have been a contributing factor in another. The pathogen responsible is the rare Saintpaul strain of Salmonella enterica.

Nearly half of the reported illnesses were in Texas and New Mexico. According to unnamed sources close to the investigation, most illness clusters in the outbreak involve Mexican restaurants. Illness clusters in the hard hit state of Illinois were publicly identified by local health departments as involving three Mexican restaurants.

The CDC is in the process of investigating the outbreak and trying to identify the contamination's point of origin. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) currently suspects that the contaminated food product is an ingredient in fresh salsa, such as fresh jalapeño pepper, fresh serrano pepper, fresh cilantro, or certain types of raw tomato.

Some produce industry insiders doubt that fresh produce is to blame for the outbreak. They point to the absence of Salmonella on all of the tested produce samples to date, as well as divergent results from produce tracebacks. They also say that the extended time frame of new sicknesses makes it unlikely that either raw tomatoes or fresh jalapeños, the government's two main suspects, could be responsible. Will Steele, President and CEO of Frontera Produce, said that "the outbreak is probably related to processed goods and they’re looking in the wrong closets."

Steele's Texas based company has been forced to hold shipments of fresh jalapeño peppers after loads of produce were repeatedly flagged by the FDA for testing. Although independent testing of both loads showed no sign of Salmonella, the peppers are still on hold until the FDA finishes its own testing of the second load flagged on July 1st. "There are still no results," Steele says. "The salability of that produce in two to three days is gone. We ceased harvesting. There is no sense in bringing in more product and having it rot."

Steele, like others in the produce industry, believes that the FDA should be focusing on processed produce instead of fresh produce. "Methodology is backward," he says. "FDA is reaching for answers. You can’t tie jalapeño pepper shipped on June 30 back to April 10."

Still, the FDA and the CDC consider testing of fresh jalapeños and other fresh produce a high priority. The CDC writes that "the accumulated data from all investigations indicate that jalapeño peppers caused some illnesses."

The FDA is cautioning that people who would be in the most danger if infected with Salmonella (infants, the elderly, and those with compromised immune systems) should avoid eating the suspected types of produce listed on their website.


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Why the Hell was there an arms depot in the middle of a major town? I daresay the regieme will refuse to accept any blame whatsoever, too. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:47, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Iran tests more missiles as war games continue

I thought I read somewhere that the extra tests may have been made up by intelligence people? Rumor or did I hear about something else? 216.208.32.197 19:54, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Iran at the very least doctored the photos. --+Deprifry+ 20:52, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks that was what it was. 216.208.32.197 21:08, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Oil prices?
Oil prices went up just because of a couple tests? Gold?! I've seen reports that if the US goes to war with Iran, we'll see $300-$400 for one barrel of oil since Iran has large influences in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and other oil producing countries (including Venezuela, all the way in South America).--Lf2planet (talk) 20:37, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:UK car crash in Leicestershire kills six

Looking at footage of the aftermath, I'm leaning towards blaming the Christian Salvesen trucker. It looks like the truck has crossed over the solid white line (international readers, that means no overtaking) and into the car's teritory. Of course, it may have been werving to avoid the car, and dragged the lighter vehicle back accross with it, but for once I think the youths aren't to blame. Then again, they did have six people in a car with five seatbelts. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:03, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Bush signs law to build fence at US-Mexico border

Border wall is long overdue, the last amnesty gave a preferential racial profile approval to the hispanic population. What about the rest of the world equal access, if they would have known, they could have rushed into the country illegally. A few facts: In Phoenix, Arizona; a high concentration of illegals. By judicial statistics here, nearly half of DWIs are committed by illegal immigrants, 80% of heinous crimes... the disproportionate statistics continue. When local leaders and groups who were pro saw this, they stopped the statistic gathering. No statistic- no problem. Only a handful of corporate employers benefit from the illegal workforce. They make millions on this below market labor. There are plenty of people to do the work, but the euphamism is there is no one to do the job> aka is they could not work for the poor wages, though you were still billing for scale. The housing industry busted out with 50% increase in housing. Wages did not change. Material did not change significantly.

Proof, when an employer refuses to pay market value and threatens employees with, if you wont take the paycut, I will replace you with a Mexican. This was giving their job away illegally.

Another problem with those here criminally, they have already shown a disregard for the law. They realize that they can break the law here and then negotiate to deport to return within the week under a new, stolen identity. Know of it personally. Employers finding a false SS number, a friend who is a framing forman, says jose left in the morning returning the next day and introduced himself as Bob. The employer, KBI, Pulte Homes, most large corporate construction are involved actually facilitated and assisted them coming up with new IDs.

I run with construction company owners... in survey have all heard the threat from illegals, "I know where you live... I will..." damage, or harm your women. Too many are bottom feeders. They also are notorious for construction project sabatage. Damaging the other trades or their own. To be found on completion and repaired for thousands. The general contractor doesnt lose, he force feeds it to the subs.

Cost to deport, $200.. Annual avg burden per illegal: Schooling at $4500/child- est 80,000 in Arizona alone; hospital care general plus work injuries suffered by illegals and then dumped on ER doorstep not covered under workman's comp; crime- incarceration, property damage, theft 80% of stolen vehicles to Mexico; burden on police community; cost to victims; loss of life from criminal activity- loss of income earner to family; suppressed wages of legal citizens; preying on legal hispanic community; most of hispanic gang activity is illegal alien related; destruction of neighborhoods from overcrowding; human crime- trafficking, slavery...  this is the tip of the iceberg. Direct Cost to allow to stay, 3k to 5k/year. Indirect cost to legal citizens due to forced reduced income, loss of income, foreclosure... Billions... year after year! $200 sounds pretty cheap.

This is not about racial prejudice issue anymore than slavery was. These are human problems. The blacks gathered up in the 1600 to 1800 and sold into slavery were gathered by other black African tribes. The Jews were caught in slavery to Egyptians and Romans. There is still slavery going on in Africa, Middle East.. White slavery here in the United States. Russians conning young women from Russia here for work to find themselves trapped and constrained into the sex trade. Hyspanics conning young women from Mexico and South America here for work to find themselves caught as sex slaves in border massage parlors. The control exercised over them is the threat of harming their family back home. The family is unaware. They are often the same ethnic group preying on their own people for profit; easier for them because they are familiar to the areas. You've got the Catholics and Protestants going at it in Ireland... the problem is the same. This is idealogical prejudice. They are neighbors. The red herring/ diversion is to ring the race bell...

R Stone

 * I don't necessarily disagree with your points about crime, tax burden, and so on, and they may indeed be good reasons for building a wall, but border security is justified in itself. AP295 (talk)
 * The "random article" button brought me here, I was certain it said "biden" and not "bush". Then I saw that this thread is from 2008... Well, the point still stands. AP295 (talk) 17:33, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


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Poland announces Olympians for the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing

July 10, 2008 The Polish Olympic Committee (PKOL) announced today the list of 258 sportsmen drafted to represent Poland at the 2008 Summer Olympic Games in Beijing, China. The number of olympians may increase by 10, as the Committee has given a number of athletes a final chance to qualify, including Lidia Chojecka and Małgorzata Trybańska. There are 101 women and 157 men on the team. The 28-year-old canoer Marek Twardowski has been chosen for the national flag bearer. "There was, of course, a discussion. We rejected the candidacy of Otylia Jędrzejczak, because she starts her Olympics on August 9, the same situation was with Leszek Blanik. We needed a titled sportsman for whom the function of flag bearer will not interrupt preparations. Marek starts on August 19, he won 20 World Championships and European Championships medals and he's a cool guy", said Kajetan Broniewski, the chief of the Polish Olympic Mission.

The Committee spent over PLN186 million (almost US$90 million) on preparations for the Olympics in last four years, with PLN73 million of it spent this year alone. "With such a big team, we should improve the results from Athens and win over 10 medals", said the PKOL president Piotr Nurowski.

When asked about the protests over China's violation of human rights in Tibet, Nurowski said: "Demonstrating one's political views at the venues as well as in the Olympic Village is forbidden. It is a violation of the Olympic Oath. It means that the IOC may even expel one from the Village and take away the medals. I have talked a lot about it with our sportsmen. They have answered that politics is not interesting for them in Beijing.  They are concentrating on sports."

It will be the third biggest Polish Olympic team in history; there were more sportsmen at the Olympics in 1972 (Munich, 288) and 1980 (Moscow, 321). Fours years ago the team numbered 202 sportsmen.

The players on the men's and women's volleyball teams, as well as the men's handball team are still not known. The teams' coaches Raul Lozano, Marco Bonitta and Bogdan Wenta have until July 19 to announce their rosters.

Overall, the team, including the medical staff, coaches, psychologists and others, will number over 400 people.


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Wikinews interviews Christopher Beyette, prince of the Principality of Vikesland

July 10, 2008

Over the past few months, Wikinews reporter Joseph Ford has held several interviews with Kevin Baugh, president of the Republic of Molossia, a micronation located near Dayton, Nevada. This week, Ford had the opportunity to interview another intermicronational leader, Christopher Beyette, prince of the Principality of Vikesland, another micronation located in Manitoba.

At only three years old, the Principality is a relative newcomer to the intermicronational community.

When asked if he considers Vikesland a serious micronation, Prince Christopher said that his country is "a new nation project. Our goal is to eventually become an internationally recognized state with hopefully some sort of small sovereign land base."

He went on to tell much more about Vikesland, which can be read in the interview below.

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'''Today, there are hundreds of micronations that are little more than online chat groups or role playing games. Is the Principality of Vikesland a serious land-claiming micronation? Do you have the goal of eventual international recognition?'''

 * Prince Christopher: The Principality of Vikesland was created as a new nation project. Our goal is to eventually become an internationally recognized state with hopefully some sort of small sovereign land base. Right now we do have land owned by various members of the Royal family and nobility that are declared Vikeslandic territory. This territory is unfortunately not sovereign territory but simply privately owned land in other older larger and more established Macro-nations. We are not secessionists and have no desire to forcefully take any land from any country that is not willing to give it to us. The current goal is to build the nation to the point where we can be successfully recognized by the international community. The issue of sovereign land will then be easier to negotiate with friendly countries. We plan on gaining the capacity to purchase an island or tract of land that equals at least 20 square miles to then establish ourselves on a full national scale.

Where is the Principality of Vikesland located?

 * Prince Christopher: The main land base for Vikesland is in Manitoba, Canada near the Riding Mountian national park on the eastern side. Looking on a map, it is approximately 3 miles west of the small town of Kelwood and about 1/2 mile to the south. We also have other declared lands in Europe, the U.S.A., Australia and Africa.

How large is Vikesland?

 * Prince Christopher: Vikesland's main Land base in Manitoba Canada is approximately 169 acres. Land size in Europe tallies to a larger 1,200 acres! When all is said and done we have an approximate current total of 1,400 acres between all Royalty and nobility.

Tell us about your country's history.

 * Prince Christopher: Vikesland came into being officially in July of 2005. I first came across the concept of Micronationalism in late 2004 and thought it would be a great concept for a documentary. Then the idea of creating my own nation for that documentary would be even better, so  I came up with Vikesland. The name is an homage to the Vikings of old who adventured into the unknown world in search of new things. The documentary is very slow in developing due to lack of funding mainly but that will hopefully be solved in the next year or two. Vikesland quickly developed into a real passion for me and others and has developed into what it is right now. We have a constitution and various Government Ministries that oversee the running of the nation.

Does Vikesland have its own flag, currency and national anthem?

 * Prince Christopher: Yes we currently have a flag as well as our own currency and our own national anthem. We minted a small run of $1 Vikeslandic Crowns and have various denominations in paper currency. We also have postal stamps. The national anthem is currently only an instrumental theme but lyrics are in the works.

What is the official language of Vikesland?

 * Prince Christopher: The official language of Vikesland is English but we are possibly going to adopt an official second language in the future.

What is the governmental structure of Vikesland?

 * Prince Christopher: I like to call our system a democratic monarchy where the head of state is directly involved in the Government workings but most major things require a majority vote from the royal council. Think of city hall with the Prince as Mayor and the rest of the Government as council. Our system also allows for general citizen involvement through an electoral position of Chancellor or Ministerial portfolio. As Prince I have constitutional rights to appoint Government ministers and Noble titles, but I always like to confer with the Royal council to get their approval as well.

Does Vikesland have its own military?

 * Prince Christopher: Yes, we have the Vikeslandic Security force which has land, air and sea capability. Mind you these are all on a very small scale. Our force is essentially an unarmed entity that is primarily focused on security, search and rescue and having a lot of fun. We have no desire to wage any wars on anyone and will defer any violent threats against us to the larger Macro-national authorities. The only time any of us carry a weapon is for wild animal defense, hunting or sporting purposes. This is of course in accordance with local Macro-national laws and with the Noble land owners consent.

Tell us about the Vikeslandic culture.

 * Prince Christopher: Vikeslandic culture is an ever evolving thing. We speak English and our lifestyles are a quintessential westerners life, but as more and more people become citizens they bring a variety of new things with them. We heavily condone the arts in all forms and the majority of us love some part of the outdoors, be it camping, hiking or boating.

I am currently going to have an official Vikeslandic food recipe compilation made and posted on our website. I hope to have authentic Vikeslandic food up there for everyone to try. Being socially conscious and having a good time in this life is top of the list. Does Vikesland belong to any international organizations?

 * Prince Christopher: Yes, we currently belong to an intermicronational organization called The League of Small Nations. It is an organization designed to advance the rights of small sovereign states and provide a platform from which their voices can be heard among the larger more powerful states.

'''Can one become a citizen of Vikesland? Is honorary citizenship granted?'''

 * Prince Christopher: Yes, you can become a citizen of Vikesland by applying on our citizenship page. We have two types of citizenry, cyber citizens (honorary) or full citizens.

Can people visit Vikesland?

 * Prince Christopher: Yes they can but it is only by appointment. Anyone showing up unannounced will be most likely turned away. Requests can be made directly to myself via e-mail only.

'''What are your duties as prince? What is it like to run your own country?'''

 * Prince Christopher: It is stressful being the head of state, it is a lot of fun but equally testing as well. I oversee most government workings and provide leadership and direction for those under me. I am also the face of Vikesland so I take care of all media related issues and some foreign diplomacy as well as keep the citizens informed via or website with video or write-ups. I also head various projects within our security force and our Department of Aeronautics and Space. It can be tough but it is equally rewarding.

'''There are thousands reading this right now. Is there anything else you would like us to know about your nation?'''

 * Prince Christopher: I would just like to reiterate that we are not secessionists or unpatriotic rebels of any-kind. I personally am a very patriotic Canadian but I am also equally a patriotic Vikeslandic. This nation project is a new frontier and immensely fun on top of it. I consider myself a dual citizen of both Canada and Vikesland and I am law abiding. It is with hope that one day we can achieve our own autonomy peacefully with our distinct culture and small land-base. Semi-autonomy is even an acceptable outcome in the end. The first and foremost of all of this is that everyone involved enjoy what they are doing. I am not willing, nor am I asking anyone to ruin their health or professional life by relentlessly pursuing an impossible goal. I believe that if it is not fun or beneficial, why do it. Yes taking the sour with the sweet is a fact of life, but we should have at least 80 percent sweet when building up Vikesland.
 * All of our citizens in various parts of the world hopefully also share this ideal.


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Talk:Wikinews interviews Christopher Beyette, prince of the Principality of Vikesland

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I object to these sentence: "However, it is well on its way to gaining the status that Molossia has as an intermicronational superpower. In its short existence, Vikesland has developed an incredibly detailed governmental structure, military, national culture, currency, flag and postal service among other things."

Is "intermicronational superpower" a term used by anyone other than micronations themselves? Detailed government, military, culture, according to who? Beyette's description of his micronations military and culture make it sound like something a couple of teenagers could have made up on a rainy afternoon. It's misleading for Wikinews to present micronations such as these as anything other than cranks and hobbyists. - Borofkin (talk) 02:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

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Here is a complete email transcript of the interview:

Reply to all Forward Reply by chat Filter messages like this Print Add to Contacts list Delete this message Report phishing Report not phishing Show original Show in fixed width font Show in variable width font Message text garbled? Why is this spam/nonspam? Joseph FordPrince Christopher, I frequently visit your nation's website and find the Pri... Jun 16

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Prince Christopher, I frequently visit your nation's website and find the Principality of Vikesland very interesting. I write articles on micronations for Wikinews, one of the internet's biggest news websites, on a regular basis and was wondering if I could get an email interview with you on your country. If you could reply with a "yes" or "no" within 24 hours, that would be great. Thanks for your time, Joseph Ford (Also known as WNewsReporter on Wikinews) Reply Forward

Prince Christopher IMr. Ford, Absolutely! I am more than willing to help you out. Let me know whe... Jun 17

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Mr. Ford,

Absolutely! I am more than willing to help you out. Let me know when you wish to conduct the interview.

Regards,

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On 16-Jun-08, at 1:03 PM, Joseph Ford wrote:

Prince Christopher,

I frequently visit your nation's website and find the Principality of Vikesland very interesting. I write articles on micronations for Wikinews, one of the internet's biggest news websites, on a regular basis and was wondering if I could get an email interview with you on your country. If you could reply with a "yes" or "no" within 24 hours, that would be great.

Thanks for your time, Joseph Ford (Also known as WNewsReporter on Wikinews)

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Prince Christopher IMr. Ford, I was wondering if you received my confirmation or not. I am always... Jun 18

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Mr. Ford,

I was wondering if you received my confirmation or not. I am always willing to answer any questions you may have.

I did want to let you know that I will be away for two weeks starting this upcoming Sunday. I will not be able to conduct any e-mail business while I am away. You may interested in the fact that I am going to be in the Micronation of Molossia for a state visit for a few days. It is incredibly rare for official visits like this to happen. In fact I only know of one, which was also conducted within Molossia.

Thank you for considering the Principality of Vikesland.

Regards,

Prince Christopher I

On 16-Jun-08, at 1:03 PM, Joseph Ford wrote:

- Show quoted text - Prince Christopher,

I frequently visit your nation's website and find the Principality of Vikesland very interesting. I write articles on micronations for Wikinews, one of the internet's biggest news websites, on a regular basis and was wondering if I could get an email interview with you on your country. If you could reply with a "yes" or "no" within 24 hours, that would be great.

Thanks for your time, Joseph Ford (Also known as WNewsReporter on Wikinews)

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Prince Christopher, thank you for the prompt response and sorry for the late reply. I have been unable to access my email account for the last week. Glad to hear about the upcoming visit with the Republic of Molossia. I have done several articles on Molossia for Wikinews and have interviewed President Baugh twice. Even though you won't be able to answer these questions for the next two weeks, I'll send them to you now anyway. Send them back whenever you get a chance. Today, there are hundreds of micronations that are little more than online chat groups or role playing games. Is the Principality of Vikesland a serious land-claiming micronation? Do you have the goal of eventual international recognition? Where is the Principality of Vikesland located? How large is Vikesland? Tell us about your country's history. Does Vikesland have its own flag, currency and national anthem? What is the official language of Vikesland? What is the governmental structure of Vikesland? Does Vikesland have its own military? Tell us about the Vikeslandic culture. Does Vikesland belong to any international organizations? Can one become a citizen of Vikesland? Is honorary citizenship granted? Can people visit Vikesland? What are your duties as prince? What is it like to run your own country? There are thousands reading this right now. Is there anything else you would like us to know about your nation? - Show quoted text -

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Prince Christopher I  wrote:

Mr. Ford,

I was wondering if you received my confirmation or not. I am always willing to answer any questions you may have.

I did want to let you know that I will be away for two weeks starting this upcoming Sunday. I will not be able to conduct any e-mail business while I am away. You may interested in the fact that I am going to be in the Micronation of Molossia for a state visit for a few days. It is incredibly rare for official visits like this to happen. In fact I only know of one, which was also conducted within Molossia.

Thank you for considering the Principality of Vikesland.

Regards,

Prince Christopher I

On 16-Jun-08, at 1:03 PM, Joseph Ford wrote:

Prince Christopher,

I frequently visit your nation's website and find the Principality of Vikesland very interesting. I write articles on micronations for Wikinews, one of the internet's biggest news websites, on a regular basis and was wondering if I could get an email interview with you on your country. If you could reply with a "yes" or "no" within 24 hours, that would be great.

Thanks for your time, Joseph Ford (Also known as WNewsReporter on Wikinews)

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Prince Christopher, just wanting to make sure that you received the list of questions. Send them back answered whenever you get the chance. - Show quoted text -

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Joseph Ford  wrote:

Prince Christopher, thank you for the prompt response and sorry for the late reply. I have been unable to access my email account for the last week. Glad to hear about the upcoming visit with the Republic of Molossia. I have done several articles on Molossia for Wikinews and have interviewed President Baugh twice. Even though you won't be able to answer these questions for the next two weeks, I'll send them to you now anyway. Send them back whenever you get a chance. Today, there are hundreds of micronations that are little more than online chat groups or role playing games. Is the Principality of Vikesland a serious land-claiming micronation? Do you have the goal of eventual international recognition? Where is the Principality of Vikesland located? How large is Vikesland? Tell us about your country's history. Does Vikesland have its own flag, currency and national anthem? What is the official language of Vikesland? What is the governmental structure of Vikesland? Does Vikesland have its own military? Tell us about the Vikeslandic culture. Does Vikesland belong to any international organizations? Can one become a citizen of Vikesland? Is honorary citizenship granted? Can people visit Vikesland? What are your duties as prince? What is it like to run your own country? There are thousands reading this right now. Is there anything else you would like us to know about your nation?

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Prince Christopher I  wrote:

Mr. Ford,

I was wondering if you received my confirmation or not. I am always willing to answer any questions you may have.

I did want to let you know that I will be away for two weeks starting this upcoming Sunday. I will not be able to conduct any e-mail business while I am away. You may interested in the fact that I am going to be in the Micronation of Molossia for a state visit for a few days. It is incredibly rare for official visits like this to happen. In fact I only know of one, which was also conducted within Molossia.

Thank you for considering the Principality of Vikesland.

Regards,

Prince Christopher I

On 16-Jun-08, at 1:03 PM, Joseph Ford wrote:

Prince Christopher,

I frequently visit your nation's website and find the Principality of Vikesland very interesting. I write articles on micronations for Wikinews, one of the internet's biggest news websites, on a regular basis and was wondering if I could get an email interview with you on your country. If you could reply with a "yes" or "no" within 24 hours, that would be great.

Thanks for your time, Joseph Ford (Also known as WNewsReporter on Wikinews)

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Mr. ford,

Here is your reply and once again thank you for your interest.

Regards,

Prince Christopher I

On 5-Jul-08, at 1:39 AM, Joseph Ford wrote:

Today, there are hundreds of micronations that are little more than online chat groups or role playing games. Is the Principality of Vikesland a serious land-claiming micronation? Do you have the goal of eventual international recognition? The Principality of Vikesland was created as a new nation project. Our goal is to eventually become an internationally recognized state with hopefully some sort of small sovereign land base. Right now we do have land owned by various members of the Royal family and nobility that are declared Vikeslandic territory. This territory is unfortunately not sovereign territory but simply privately owned land in other older larger and more established Macro-nations. We are not secessionists and have no desire to forcefully take any land from any country that is not willing to give it to us. The current goal is to build the nation to the point where we can be successfully recognized by the international community. The issue of sovereign land will then be easier to negotiate with friendly countries. We plan on gaining the capacity to purchase an island or tract of land that equals at least 20 square miles to then establish ourselves on a full national scale.

Where is the Principality of Vikesland located? The main land base for Vikesland is in Manitoba, Canada near the Riding Mountian national park on the eastern side. Looking on a map, it is approximately 3 miles west of the small town of Kelwood and about 1/2 mile to the south. We also have other declared lands in Europe, the U.S.A., Australia and Africa. How large is Vikesland? Vikeslands main Land base in Manitoba Canada is approximately 169 acres. Land size in Europe tallies to a larger 1,200 acres! When all is said and done we have an approximate current total of 1,400 acres between all Royalty and nobility.

Tell us about your country's history. Vikesland came into being officially in July of 2005. I first came across the concept of Micronationalism in late 2004 and thought it would be a great concept for a documentary. Then the idea of creating my own nation for that documentary would be even better, so I came up with Vikesland. The name is an homage to the Vikings of old who adventured into the unknown world in search of new things. The documentary is very slow in developing due to lack of funding mainly but that will hopefully be solved in the next year or two. Vikesland quickly developed into a real passion for me and others and has developed into what it is right now. We have a constitution and various Government Ministries that oversee the running of the nation.

Does Vikesland have its own flag, currency and national anthem? Yes we currently have a flag as well as our own currency and our own national anthem. We minted a small run of $1 Vikeslandic Crowns and have various denominations in paper currency. We also have postal stamps. The national anthem is currently only an instrumental theme but lyrics are in the works.

What is the official language of Vikesland? The official language of Vikesland is English but we are possibly going to adopt an official second language in the future.

What is the governmental structure of Vikesland? I like to call our system a democratic monarchy where the head of state is directly involved in the Government workings but most major things require a majority vote from the royal council. Think of city hall with the Prince as Mayor and the rest of the Government as council. Our system also allows for general citizen involvement through an electoral position of Chancellor or Ministerial portfolio. As Prince I have constitutional rights to appoint Government ministers and Noble titles, but I always like to confer with the Royal council to get their approval as well.

Does Vikesland have its own military? Yes, we have the Vikeslandic Security force which has land, air and sea capability. Mind you these are all on a very small scale. Our force is essentially an unarmed entity that is primarily focused on security, search and rescue and having alot of fun. We have no desire to wage any wars on anyone and will defer any violent threats against us to the larger Macro-national authorities. The only time any of us carry a weapon is for wild animal defense, hunting or sporting purposes. This is of course in accordance with local Macro-national laws and with the Noble land owners consent.

Tell us about the Vikeslandic culture. Vikeslandic culture is an ever evolving thing. We speak English and our lifestyles are a quintessential westerners life, but as more and more people become citizens they bring a variety of new things with them. We heavily condone the arts in all forms and the majority of us love some part of the outdoors, be it camping, hiking or boating. I am currently going to have an official Vikeslandic food recipe compilation made and posted on our website. I hope to have authentic Vikeslandic food up there for everyone to try. Being socially conscious and having a good time in this life is top of the list.

Does Vikesland belong to any international organizations?

Yes, we currently belong to an intermicronational organization called The League of Small Nations. It is an organization designed to advance the rights of small sovereign states and provide a platform from which their voices can be heard among the larger more powerful states. .Can one become a citizen of Vikesland? Is honorary citizenship granted? Yes, you can become a citizen of Vikesland by applying on our citizenship page. We have two types of citizenry, cyber citizens (honorary) or full citizens.

Can people visit Vikesland? Yes they can but it is only by appointment. Anyone showing up un-announced will be most likely turned away. Requests can be made directly to myself via e-mail only. Please contact princechristopher@vikeslandic.com

What are your duties as prince? What is it like to run your own country? It is stressful being the head of state, it is alot of fun but equally testing as well. I oversee most government workings and provide leadership and direction for those under me. I am also the face of Vikesland so I take care of all media related issues and some foreign diplomacy as well as keep the citizens informed via or website with video or write-ups. I also head various projects within our security force and our Department of Aeronautics and Space. It can be tough but it is equally rewarding.

There are thousands reading this right now. Is there anything else you would like us to know about your nation? I would just like to reiterate that we are not secessionists or unpatriotic rebels of any-kind. I personally am a very patriotic Canadian but I am also equally a patriotic Vikeslandic. This nation project is a new frontier and immensely fun on top of it. I consider myself a dual citizen of both Canada and Vikesland and I am law abiding. It is with hope that one day we can achieve our own autonomy peacefully with our distinct culture and small land-base. Semi-autonomy is even an acceptable outcome in the end. The first and foremost of all of this is that everyone involved enjoy what they are doing. I am not willing, nor am I asking anyone to ruin their health or professional life by relentlessly pursuing an impossible goal. I believe that if it is not fun or beneficial, why do it. Yes taking the sour with the sweet is a fact of life, but we should have at least 80 percent sweet when building up Vikesland. All of our citizens in various parts of the world hopefully also share this ideal.

Unsourced claims
Again there were many unsourced claims of status and accompishments that I had to remove. --SVTCobra 02:18, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


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Karl Rove refuses to testify before House Judiciary Committee

July 10, 2008 Karl Rove, who served as Deputy Chief of Staff to United States President George W. Bush before resigning last year, failed to appear in front of the House Judiciary Committee today, refusing to testify about allegations of misusing his political power.

The congressional panel is trying to determine if Rove had a connection with the prosecution of Don Siegelman, former Democratic governor of Alabama. The committee is also investigating allegations that the former White House adviser dismissed nine federal prosecutors seen as political opponents. Rove has denied ever influencing the decisions of the Department of Justice.

In May, the panel subpoenaed Rove in an attempt to force him to offer testimony. He was scheduled to appear at a committee hearing today, but his lawyer Robert D. Luskin made it clear that he would not attend. Luskin argued that his client was "immune" to the subpoena because of executive privilege, which gives executive officials the right to resist a search from the other two branches of government.

In a letter written to the committee on Wednesday, Luskin said that Rove is "constitutionally immune from compelled congressional testimony", adding that "threatening Mr. Rove with sanctions will not in any way expedite the resolution of the issue." He said Rove would be willing to talk about the Siegelman case as part of an "informal interview", without a transcript and without taking an oath.

Members of the Judiciary Committee argued that executive privilege is not a valid reason to ignore a subpoena. California Rep. Linda Sanchez, who chairs the Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law, said at the hearing, "We are unaware of any proper legal basis for Mr. Rove's refusal to even appear today as required by the subpoena." She cited United States v. Nixon and Clinton v. Jones as legal precedents.

Sanchez, along with the Judiciary Committee chairman, Michigan Rep. John Conyers, said that Rove's refusal to testify could result in prosecution for being in contempt of Congress. "A refusal to appear in violation of the subpoena could subject Mr. Rove to contempt proceedings, including statutory contempt under federal law and proceedings under the inherent contempt authority of the House of Representatives," Conyers and Sanchez wrote.

If the Judiciary Committee votes to pursue these contempt charges against Rove, they would go to the floor of the House, where Speaker Nancy Pelosi would decide whether to proceed with a final vote. The House has already held two of Bush's advisers in contempt for defying a subpoena: White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and former White House Counsel Harriet Miers. Their case is currently in federal court.

Republicans have accused Democrats of using these cases as political weapons against George W. Bush. Rep. Chris Cannon, a Republican from Utah, said that "if the majority was serious about getting to the bottom of this issue", they would have accepted Rove's offers to discuss the issue on his terms, informally and without a transcript. "The fact that it hasn't is proof that their efforts amount to a partisan stunt," said Cannon.


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Comments:Karl Rove refuses to testify before House Judiciary Committee

What can I saw Rove is stalling --72.73.66.86 23:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't have time to go into details/sources, but I wonder how much money Joseph C. Wilson IV got selling books. QUINTIX (talk) 11:40, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Might as well put the link I put in the edit summary here. Just shows how congress tends to act in these manners. QUINTIX (talk) 11:43, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

 * what does wilson's book have to do with rove's refusal to appear? - Imind (talk) 16:51, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

No Oath
Wait a minute...he's not willing to answer the subpoena, but he is willing to testify informally and not under oath? Seems like a pretty obvious admission that he's planning to lie. Fat bastard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raphael s (talk • contribs) 17:44, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

PNAC on trial
All the cronies involved in the Project for a New American Century need brought to book. Karl Rove is to Bush as Goebbels was to Hitler. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Chris Cannon is blatantly corrupt, he should be qouted.
Chris Cannon is known in Utah as a good old boy who accepts bribes from industry and the rich. He is a criminal himself, and therefore does not see that an unrecorded interview cannot get to the bottom of prosecuting a criminal. Karl Rove is a criminal, and this investigation is the least of his worries, come 2009 look forward to War Crime Trials. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.49.109.75 (talk) 19:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

yeah we hiding somethings. and we're probably guilty. but too bad. we're not even going to show up to court- hah. deal with it. you whiners. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dijidal (talk • contribs) 19:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

yeah we're hiding something(s). and we're probably guilty. but too bad. we're not even going to show up to court- hah. deal with it. you whiners. executive powers gives me the legal right to tiptoe through the tulips while western civilization falls... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dijidal (talk • contribs) 20:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Wikinews interviews Christopher Beyette, prince of the Principality of Vikesland

Too much of it
I mean no disrespect to the author of all these micronation interviews -- I think his work is quite excellent actually -- but I think that it has gotten a little excessive. Micronations are trivial to say the least. Again, I don't mean to disrespect the author, but those are just me two cents. - w:User:Poe Joe 23:52, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Good idea of what the life could be if you make your own rules. I think it is like going back in time if just 1 person call himself a prince. What if you are not the price people are looking for? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.30.68.212 (talk) 00:41, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


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Jesse Jackson apologizes for comment about Barack Obama

July 11, 2008

On Wednesday evening, Jesse Jackson went on television to say that he had apologized to Barack Obama for remarks made about the presidential candidate on the previous Sunday.

On Sunday, July 6, Jackson, a United States civil rights proponent, minister, and former presidential candidate, was in a television studio for a live interview. While the broadcast went off-air for a commercial, Jackson leaned toward a fellow panelist and uttered a few comments. Though not broadcast live, the cameras were still recording.

The video footage shows Jackson saying that he felt that presidential candidate and presumptive nominee of the Democratic Party, Barack Obama, is "talking down to black people."

In the recording, Jackson then added "I want to cut his nuts out," and reiterated "Barack ... he's talking down to black people."

In Jackson's follow-up statement on Wednesday he said he had called the Obama campaign to apologize "for any harm or hurt that this hot mic private conversation may have caused."

"My support for Senator Obama's campaign is wide, deep and unequivocal," Jackson said.

Bill Burton, a spokesperson for Obama, said that Barack Obama would "continue to speak out about our responsibilities to ourselves and each other, and he of course accepts Reverend Jackson's apology."

"His comments were a combination of personal ego and ideological dispute," said Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune, who has covered Jackson for many years.

Many, including Page, have suggested that Jackson's comment was in response to a speech delivered by Obama on Father's Day. "Any fool can have a child. That doesn’t make you a father," Obama said on June 15. "It's the courage to raise a child that makes you a father."


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Dear Reader, GERARD WAY IS NOT DEAD! It is a rumor started by some low-life My Chemical Romance haters. The lead singer of My Chemical Romance (MCR) Gerard Way was said to have dies in a car crash. I can assure you this is utter BS! I even checked their myspace. SEE- www.myspace.com/mychemicalromance This talented and artistic man grew up in Belleville New Jersey, I know that is an okay town because I call The Garden State my home as well. Though I live about 2 hours away from Belleville i have visited many times. I am a My Chem fanatic and when first hearing the news my beloved Gerard /might/ be dead I quickly jumped to the source of it. THE SITE YOU ARE ON RIGHT NOW! anyone can put anything here, I assure you I am telling the whole truth for I have proof.Gerard is not dead and happily married to bassist Lyn-Z after getting hitched after a show. Gerard has a younger brother Mikey Way who I hold as close to my heart as Gerard.I hold the whole band in a special place for they make me feel like I'm not as much of an outcast as everyone else makes me feel like I am. NO I AM NOT EMO!!!!!! I do NOT have a bad outlook on life and I do not cut. Cutting was the stupidest thing ever invented in my opionion.

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Hundreds of Air Canada flight attendants to lose jobs

July 11, 2008

632 Air Canada flight attendants will lose their jobs in November as the airline is eliminating flights and routes. 332 of the jobs will be lost due to the closure of flight attendant base offices in Halifax and Winnipeg. Another 300 jobs will be lost at Vancouver due to major reductions in Air Canada's Pacific-based international flights.

Dramatic increases in fuel prices are widely blamed for the airline's cutbacks. The flight attendant layoffs are part of an overall plan to reduce 2000 jobs at Air Canada.

Airline union CUPE learned of the flight attendant cutbacks from the airline on Wednesday. Representatives of the labour association gave critical responses to this news.


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Dow Chemical to buy Rohm and Haas

July 11, 2008 United States chemical giant Dow Chemical has announced that it is to buy Philadelphia-based rival Rohm and Haas.

Dow is paying US$78 per share, a 74 percent premium, which makes the agreement worth around $15.3 billion, or $18.8 billion after adjustments are made for assumed debt. The deal has been agreed unanimously by the boards of both companies, and will be partially funded by Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway and the Kuwait Investment Authority.

In the short term, Dow's share price may suffer as analysts downgrade the company's stock rating. However, the purchase of Rohm and Haas will help to expand Dow's presence in the specialty chemical market, which helps to provide more revenue stability through the entire business cycle. Dow expects to see "significant revenue synergies", leaving it in "an excellent position in a number of industry segments that are poised for significant growth given long-term market megatrends, most notably in the electronic materials and coatings segments."

Dow plans to set up an advanced materials business unit at the Rohm and Haas headquarters in Philadelphia, and this unit will retain the Rohm and Haas name. Two Rohm and Haas directors will join Dow's board, which will expand to 14.

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Talk:Iran tests more missiles as war games continue

Speculation
I removed: "Oil and gold prices have increased as a result of the tests." according to who? Oil and gold did go up, but how do you know it wasn't because Nigerian militants called an end to a cease-fire? Or because oil workers in Brazil are threatening a strike? - In fact there were times during the trading session, after the Iran news broke, when oil was down on the day. --SVTCobra 09:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikinews does not have the experts who could be considered a credible source for an assertion that a news item has influenced a commodity price. Instead we have to rely on sources such as Reuters making these assertions, and then attribute the claim to them. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:35, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, we may or may not, but since I am not about to publish my CV, I will refrain from making any such assertions ;-)
 * However, I have added back a statement about gold and oil prices, this time properly attributed.
 * GW, in markets there are no absolutes as for why prices do this or that, only opinions and educated guesses. Therefore, we need to attribute such statements. --SVTCobra 12:49, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


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Canadian Football League news: July 11, 2008

July 11, 2008

There were two games played in the Canadian Football League on July 10, 2008.

Calgary Stampeders @ Montreal Alouettes
Quarterback Henry Burris passed for 302 yards and rushed for a team-best 93 years as he led the Calgary Stampeders to 23–19 win over the Montreal Alouettes. The Alouettes jumped out to a 11–0 lead in the first quarter but were held to only eight more points until the end of the game. The teams were limited in scoring touchdowns; the Alouettes' Damon Duval scored three field goals, a 54-yard rouge, and two punt singles, with one coming from 77 yards. Duval's counterpart, Sandro DiAngelis had three field goals, including a 40-yard one at 0:11 of the fourth quarter to give the Stampeders a four point lead, which stood until the end of thegame.

Toronto Argonauts @ Edmonton Eskimos
The Edmonton Eskimos had a 31-point second half as they beat the Toronto Argonauts 47–28. At end of the second half, the score was close, with being 16–15 in favour of the Eskimos. In the middle of the third quarter, however, Tristan Jackson blew the game open, with an 89 yard interception return and a 61 yard punt return for two touchdowns 86 seconds apart, to give the Eskimos a 30–15 lead. The Argonauts, however, narrowed the Eskimos' lead to 30–25 by the end of the quarter, as well as scoring a field goal 32 seconds into the fourth quarter to make the score 30–28. That would be as close as the Argonauts got, as Edmonton scored two touchdowns and a field goal unanswered, winning the game 47–28.


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Afghan government claims U.S. air strike killed dozens of civilians

July 11, 2008

In contrast with previous statements by the United States, Afghanistan officials investigating a Sunday air strike on Nangarhar province now claim that the 47 killed by the air strike were civilians rather than militants as the US stated. The US is facing similar charges over strikes two days earlier in another border area of Afghanistan.

Marwais Yasini, deputy speaker in the country's lower houses of parliament, criticized the fact that the operation was not planned in co-operation with Afghan forces, adding that, "all operations should be conducted in full co-operation with our [Afghan] security forces in the future".

Yasini continued by saying that "these operations widen the gap between the people and the government," and calling for compensation for the victims, who, according to local residents, were attending a wedding party at the time of the attack. Burhanullah Shinwari, head of the Afghan investigation team has stated that the victims "were all civilians and had no links with the Taliban or al-Qaida."

Lieutenant Rumi Nielson-Green, a spokesperson for the International Security Assistance Force, told Agence France-Presse that the military regrets any loss of civilian life and was investigating the incident.

The release of this information regarding Sunday's air strike comes after the release of a United Nations report regarding the deaths of civilians in Afghanistan. It said that seven hundred civilians have been killed this year, with 2/3rds of them by militants and another 1/3rd as a result of military operations.


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Murder Manslaughter
I don't see how anyone can even attempt to believe that the US government is in any way legitimate after this. Almost 50 innocent civilians have been murdered. It's is great of someone wants to fight terrorism, but only if they don't become terrorists themselves. The US Goverment has killed more people than any terrorist group in history (between 100,000 and one million in the current Iraq war alone) and I urge people to never glorify any terrorist groups, including one's that claim to be legitimate  Anonymous101 (talk) 16:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Read . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.70.115.28 (talk) 17:26, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and all the human rights groups that agreed with the Afghan reaction can also not be trusted? Anonymous101 (talk) 17:29, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Trusting locals in a terror hosting zone is like trusting a crack whore to use the aid money you give her for anything other than crack. Like you would tell the police the truth if a terrorist was holding your sister hostage and paying your 3 brother's "resistance" tuition. As to your question, "Human Rights" Groups always side with what locals tell them, it is part of the prerequisite for them to get their financial backing that they "show results" regardless if the information was properly verified. Don't be naive, everybody's got their political interests. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.70.115.28 (talk) Signed at 18:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * "Don't be naive, everybody's got their political interests." This also applies to the US Government, which you seem to trust completely. I know I have no proof hat these claims are accurate, but based on the previous actions of the US Government it seems very likely.  Anonymous101 (talk)

 * Get off you high horse. The US government is "legitimate" by whatever measures for such abstact things. People assign too much value to human life. The truth is there are plenty of us around a few lost here and there is ok as long as it is for the greater good. From what environmentalists are telling us, we need a good culling for the good of the planet. --SVTCobra 18:06, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * And would you say that if half your family was killed in the attack? Anonymous101 (talk) 18:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * And would you say that if half your family was killed in a terrorist attack? 87.70.115.28 20:25, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Based on previous BBC/Guardian errors when it comes to taking the words of locals, it seems more likely that the correct information is somewhere in the middle. I don't trust either side - you seem to give way to much distrust to a democratic state over a recently Taliban controlled area currently run over by terrorists.

 * I doubt this particular one was murder. Crimminal, sure, but murder involves deliberatly hitting them, this seems more like 'couldn't give a shit if I did or not'. I'm not sure what they need prosecuted for, probably manslaughter. Doesn't matter, they never will be. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:10, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, you are probably right that it was manslaughter. Anonymous101 (talk) 18:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm a bit picky round that one, I have a relative who used to prosecute for a living... Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a war! Your notions of civil law don't apply. --SVTCobra 18:14, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Actually, they do to civilians. And, regardless, there are rules about how to fight wars, too. Just no-one with enough balls to enforce them. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:18, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

 * I am guessing that you are refering to the Fourth Geneva Convention which is entitled "Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War". Please show me the article that discusses manslaughter or whatever "rules" you think exist. --SVTCobra 23:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

 * You should review what these rules say about culpability of an army working within a terrorist infiltrated zone. The problem is that terrorists make civilians/resistance-fighters into valid marks on purpose because their entire tactic is based on the premise of indoctrination and abuse of war-time laws. The media seems to always somehow distort the story in their favor which is mind boggling but understandable considering these people threaten and kill journalists who dare tell the story differently than the terrorists hoped... just see the Palestinian celebrations of the 9.11 attacks and how those images are now removed from the AP website and the story "vanished" into thin air. Btw, you think Bin Laden's son cared about rules of war when he quipped “Accelerate the destruction of America, Britain, France and Denmark.”? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.70.115.28 (talk) 18:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

 * The rules are to plan attacks carefuly and wisely. If a large group of civilians is about, then it isn't a good idea today. How about the next day? It would be different if there was reason to believe they may strike literally now, and immediate action is required but went sadly awry, but otherwise action should be done carefuly to prevent as many civilian casualties as possible. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:43, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

 * The US is doing exactly what you are suggesting and attacking with very few civilian casualties in comparison with previous wars. The Taliban, however, is doing it's best to have as many civilians killed... do you have any liberal minded legal related complaints towards the "kill all infidels" Taliban? Perhaps you should tell them that they should prevent as many civilian casualties as possible in person... go there and tell them that and see if it works. While you're at it, tell them that teaching children to hate is bad (read the second half from the link).
 * So you are happy with the US killing because the Taliban does it. Presumably you think the Taliban is a terrorist group. And if you think the the US can do something because the Taliban do it you must be happy with the US Government being a terrorist group.Anonymous101 (talk) 19:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You really need to inspect how the definition thingy works. You're (a) not making much sense comparing the US with the Taliban, and (b) making a pretty ugly personal attack suggesting I'd like the US to become like the Taliban. Also, the Taliban is clearly a terrorist group (i.e. a group who systematically use terror tactics as a means of coercion for political gain) and dealing with terrorists is a major problem in international law, but it is dealt with and attacks into a place where terrorists hide among civilians is considered the fault of the terrorists, not the power trying to deal with them. 87.70.115.28 20:25, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

 * We know that doesn't work. That's why there are troops killing them. But the troops out dealing with them should not lose sight of why their there. It isn't to kill, it's to kill the right people. I agree the US is far better than the Taliban. That doesn't get them off the hook, though. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Blood Red Sandman summarized it best: "But the troops out dealing with them should not lose sight of why their there." - I for one don't believe they have but Anonymous101 seems to trust they did. I believe his "thesis" is based on distorted statistics rather than a serious inspection into basic international laws regarding legality of dealing with terrorists. This claim, that the United States kills civilians on purpose also shows some serious lack of understanding of the situation on the ground and possibly ultra-liberalism (a.k.a. anarchism). In reality, the deaths of civilians due to American actions are half those of the deaths resulting from terrorist activity and in the long run, this activity will prevent future deaths and establish far higher level of human rights being implemented. No, it's not ok when uninvolved civilians get killed, but it is non-the-less a fact that the US is doing no worse in that matter than any other country trying to sort out terrorist mess (Have you looked into how Lebanon just dealt with it's terrorists in Nahr al Bared? Have you seen how the UK is handling it's terrorists issue?) and by the looks of things, it's activity has certainly created a better situation for Americans had they not engaged with the terrorists on their own turf. Also looks like a better situation for the majority of Iraqis (Shia) who were tortured and weighed down upon under the Sunni rule of Saddam. 87.70.115.28 20:25, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Bogus Headline
I don't see how anyone can even attempt to believe Afghanistan officials. Almost 50 militants are claimed to suddenly be innocent civilians. It's is great of someone wants to fight terrorism, but the media is giving these terrorists's word more value than it should carry. The title for the article should be - Afghan officials claim militnats were innocent civilians.

I urge people to never take terrorists words for granted, we've all seen the Jenin Massacre claims where Saeb Erekat charges secret graves and more than 500 massacres innocents, but when the Palestinian investigations became public, the outcome was 56 casualties with approx. 10 civilians while some civilians were used as a "ruse of war" style war crime to lead Israelis into a trap (Israel fought with foot soldiers in an urban-battlefield instead of attacking from the air). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.70.115.28 (talk) Signed at 18:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That is misguided. By default you have allowed your personal biases to absolve those who acted of any responsibility. This entire incident should be thoroughly investigated, and everything prosecuted. THAT is the only valid comment. 72.146.181.23 20:55, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Not everything is to be prosecuted. It is within the nature of war that soldiers make mistakes, and to suggest that anyone going to war to protect his country will be sent to prison upon some faulty missile or some reasonable error of judgment would suggest that this soldier would rather not do his duty and the job will not get done. It's very easy to attack these people, but to walk a mile in the shoes of a soldier is a little more difficult than to walk that mile in an air conditioned mall where your most difficult choice would be between fast food or healthier food. 87.70.115.28 23:26, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Soldier can and should be prosecuted for taking inappropriate actions. To claim that a soldier's life is somehow more noble than a civilian's is a step towards creating a special military class and against a free society. Fortunately that is not the dominant philosophy here, or in U.S. military courts. Soldiers are trained to make difficult decisions correctly—that is what they are paid to do. Weapon malfunctions are malfunctions, but in the same vein negligence is negligence. That is why I emphasis the investigation point. Glorification does not excuse anyone if they have wrongfully killed another human. 72.146.181.23 00:10, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

 * I never said it should not be looked into. However, war is war and it's got slightly differnt rules than daily standards we hold civilians to. 87.70.115.28 08:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Extremely biased
This article is, to put it mildly, extremely biased. Not even CNN, the epicenter of liberal news in America, would post something like this. The former headline was massively inappropriate and has since been changed by me to the more NPOV one used now. On Wikinews, we all need to remember that we're reporters, not spokespeople for our political beliefs. Articles like this can seriously discredit Wikinews as a reliable news source. --WNewsReporter (talk) 21:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. that is why it was linked to the BBC and the Guardian and the editor who initially wrote it (Annonymous101) added his personal "I accuse" note titled "Murder" (Gah!) in the opinions section. 87.70.115.28 23:35, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * And you fixed that by removing the two quote boxes. (Which were in fact added by someone who seemed to suppor these actions) Anonymous101 (talk) 05:36, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Support what? I don't support your distorted "America sucks" version and I improved on it some and noted here that the title was bogus. I may not agree with all the changes, but the title change was 100% correct. 87.70.115.28 08:23, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Supported the actions by the US government. By the way, I totally agree that the title change was correct as it could give the wrong impression to the reader. Anonymous101 (talk) 08:35, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Fuck yeah, I support the US engaging terrorists on their own turf. I don't support anything else you were implying. 87.70.115.28 13:50, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

War is no walk in the park. Kill 'em all and let the God sort 'em out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.16.86.179 (talk) 15:11, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Political Bullshit
Stop useless arguments! They have no place here. It got better when MrM and Neut left before, don't make things bad again! 65.1.135.46 17:16, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Barring some of the overly accusatory rhetoric - and the swearing - this is precisely what the Comments namespace is for. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:34, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


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Commons dupe
Please replace Image:Snap02178.jpg with Image:Columbus module in orbit.jpg. -- Cecil (talk) 16:17, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
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Lebanon forms unity government with Hezbollah-led opposition

July 11, 2008

Lebanese political leaders have agreed to the formation of a 30-member national unity government, in which paramilitary group Hezbollah and its political allies hold effective veto power in the new cabinet. The announcement came seven weeks after the Doha Agreement, which ended an 18-month-long political crisis in Lebanon.

A decree announcing the cabinet was signed by Prime Minister Fouad Siniora and President Michel Suleiman. Of the 30 member cabinet, 11 seats were given to the pro-Syria, Hezbollah-led opposition, fulfilling a promise of at least one third of the cabinet and giving them the power to veto legislation. The ruling coalition appointed 16 cabinet members, and President Suleiman chose the remaining three.

Only one of the 11 opposition ministers, Labor Minister Mohammad Fneish, is from Hezbollah. The rest are from the organization's Shi'a, Druze and Christian allies. The opposition also secured the coveted posts of Foreign Minister, Telecommunications Minister, and Deputy Premier.

Elias Murr kept his post as Defense Minister, and the position of Finance Minister was given to Mohammed Shatah, who served as Siniori's senior adviser in the previous cabinet. Education Minister Bahia Hariri, sister of slain Prime Minister Rafik Hariri, is the only woman in the new cabinet.

"Our differences will not be resolved overnight," Prime Minister Siniori said, "but we have decided to resolve them through institutions and dialogue rather than in the streets." He says the two main tasks of the new government will be "regaining confidence in the Lebanese political system" and "securing the holding of a transparent parliamentary election".

Under the Doha Agreement signed on May 21, Michel Suleiman became president, and the opposition and the parliamentary majority agreed to form a unity government. However, the formation of the new government was hampered by political squabbles. Parliamentary majority leader Saad Hariri said the final breakthrough came when Siniora conceded to the opposition by accepting into the cabinet Ali Kanso, former head of the Syrian Social Nationalist Party.

The two factions arrived at the Doha Agreement after a long series of Hezbollah-led protests against Siniora's government led to fears of a new civil war. In May, 65 people were killed in sectarian clashes initiated by Hezbollah following a government attempt to outlaw their telecommunications systems. The forces of Syrian-backed Hezbollah were largely unopposed by the Lebanese military while taking over Sunni neighborhoods in Beirut but encountered heavy losses attacking Druze controlled areas.

One of the issues expected to be discussed among the new government is the fate of Hezbollah's weapons, which the group claims it needs for defense against a possible Israeli attack. Hezbollah has yet to disarm and even boasted on enhancing it's weaponry status despite it's signing of U.N. resolution 1701, calling for it's disarmament.


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Comments:Jesse Jackson apologizes for comment about Barack Obama

Not the God of Black People
In the words of Token, a character in the show South Park: "Jesse Jackson is NOT the God of black people!" I can't agree more. By the way, neither is Al Sharpton. As a black man myself, I can proudly say what I want on the subject.
 * I can only hope that holds true for the rest of black people, or else Obama stands the chance of being rejected by his own race. ~Planoneck~ 17:57, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Almost Anything other than four more years of self-serving, cronyistic, bottom-feeding Republicans *has* to be an improvement. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:03, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * How about a nice old man who has a certain friendly Grandpa-quality? --SVTCobra 18:12, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but Ike ain't around anymore. Despite what many seem to believe.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.163.165.236 (talk) 11:21, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * John McCain supports continuing in Iraq and the pouring of billions more dollars into the Military Industrial Complex. I don't have much faith in Obama cutting off the fire-hose supply of cash to military contractors, the American people have been convinced that spending a billion here and there on stealth fighters and smart missiles beats pissed off militants who have an AK47 each and know how to brew up explosives in a bathtub. Perhaps the US military should invest in bathtubs instead? --Brian McNeil / talk 17:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * So you want the US to use dumb bombs and kill the civilians indescriminately instead of accidentially. I think you are right. It would be cheaper to bomb ala Dresden whenever there is a town that becomes infected with insurgents. Thanks, Brian. PS You got off-topic pretty quickly. --SVTCobra 18:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

/me points to Jesse Jackson's illegitimate child. Spacehusky (talk) 01:23, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I think MR.JACKSONS COMMENTS ABOUT OBAMA WERE THE COMMENTS WHITE AMERICA WANTS A SO-CALLED BLACK LEADER TO MAKE. WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS HES HAD IN PAST FEW YEARS I THINK HE JUST NEEDS TO SHUT HIS MOUTH.SO THANKS FOR NOTHING UNCLE JESSE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.139.45.14 (talk) 15:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I think Jackson beign a pearcher shouldnt have said anything bout anyone no matter what he thought. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.236.196.198 (talk) 05:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


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User talk:87.70.115.28

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikinews pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! Anonymous101 (talk) 19:22, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Article
Thanks for submitting an article to Wikinews. Unfoutatunately, it cannot yet be published as there is currently only one source. Once you have added a source it will be very close to being ready to be published to the Main Page. Anonymous101 (talk) 12:58, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Also, the source is from May 26. An event from May 26 is unfortunately not current enough to be published on Wikinews. Anonymous101 (talk) 13:03, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

By the way, if you tag the article with ready someone will ook at the article and publish it to the Main Page if appropriate Anonymous101 (talk) 17:12, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Seen talk?
I am not the only person believing the article inappropriate for wikinews. See the talk. There are 3 for more development. 65.1.135.46 20:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

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Wikinews:Proposal for Embargoed wiki/Vote Archive 1

'''This is an archive of past votes on the Proposal for Embargoed wiki. Do not edit this page.'''

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'This proposal was sent to the Wikimedia Foundation board in February 2008 and was rejected''. Please start a new vote for any further submissions to WMF.'''

 * Previous votes and discussions can also be found on the Water Cooler and the voting archive.

Please keep all discussion to the talk page.

 * as creator. --Skenmy(t•c•w) 20:18, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It is an absolute pain in the ass passing around emails to do reporting out of the public eye when a wiki would be the ideal platform to dissect them on and construct followup emails. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:21, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 *  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 20:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 20:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Bengl 20:48, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 *  Cbrown1023  talk  21:15, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * although think it is very important that such a Wiki is carefuly managed and would perhaps suggest that for each story written there a rationale is provided on the appropriate page(s) explaining why it is not appropriate to develop publicly. Adambro 21:30, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * per Adambro if access is given out rather easily (kind of like WP:RFR on the English Wikipedia, but not quite as easy). Greeves (talk • contribs) 22:48, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that having taken more time to consider this proposal I feel that I should oppose this for the reasons I note below:
 * User access control Managing access to this Wiki will be very difficult. Balancing the necessity for it to remain private with the desire to be as open as possible will be a constant issue. The process for granting access to users from other language Wikinews project would also be a problem. Considering that the English Wikinews accreditation process has turned into the Wikinews accreditation process, I would worry that the same would happen here resulting in users requesting access on the English Wikinews where the community is not realistically able to judge their contributions adequately.
 * Value For any such wiki to be of any value it has to be limited to users whom which the community has build up a good level of trust. This means it would have to be taken more seriously than requests for roll back on Wikipedia. As an example I'd note that the recent instance where I'd have found such a wiki useful. An organisation emailed me an embargoed press release. If this was released relatively casually and subsequently made public this could seriously damage relations with this organisation.
 * Content Developing stories on wiki is always preferable but where would the line be drawn? I would fear that there would be constant disputes about whether a story can or cannot be public and such discussion would not really involve the wider community.
 * User class This would create another class of user and in doing so further alienate new users and serve to deepen any impressions of a cabal.
 * Bureaucracy Trying to manage a private wiki, handling the requests for access and the disputes about content, would further distract Wikinews participants from writing news.
 * I would of course be happy to discuss any of these points but would ask that this is done on the talk page to maintain the clarity of the voting. Adambro 22:54, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * in current form. Based on the talk page it is unclear if the consensus is only granting access to users who are admins or accredited, or if access will pretty much be granted to anyone who has been registered for a month and simply puts there name down somewhere. --Remi - (talk) 02:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikimedia was founded on the principle of anyone can edit not anyone can edit if they meet the requirements. The fact that people can;t even see the pages unless they meets the requirement is entirely contradictory to the foundations mission. Anonymous101   05:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * - brings up some very good points, especially his last one. Cirt (talk) 06:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


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Burglars steal Milan Lučić's Memorial Cup ring from his Vancouver home

July 11, 2008 Yesterday, Milan Lučić's family returned home and found their home ransacked by burglars. It was discovered that the young NHL star's prized Memorial Cup ring and several valuable tournament watches were stolen from their home in Vancouver, Canada.

Lučić's mother, Snežana, has said that the thieves gained entrance to the family's home by smashing in the back door.

Lučić, 20, who lives with his parents, Dobrivoje and Snežana, is a player for the Boston Bruins and flew to Boston on Wednesday to help out at a rookies camp.

"We don't know if it was random," she said. "They went into his room upstairs and took his Memorial Cup ring and three of his Esquire watches."

Other rooms in the home were ransacked and alcohol was stolen.

"He was very disappointed," said Snežana, referring to Lučić's reaction when she called her son in Boston shortly after the robbery.

Before Lučić flew to Boston. he told Snežana before flying to Boston he was thinking about his memorabilia and recalled how, last summer, former goalie for the Edmonton Oilers, Bill Ranford, was robbed of memorabilia from his New Westminster home.

"So in a way he wasn't surprised," Snežana said.

Lučić was raised in East Vancouver. He carried the Vancouver Giants to a Memorial Cup victory in 2007. He was awarded as the Most Valuable Player and led the Giants in scoring for the 2006-07 season.

Lučić accumulated 27 points and 89 penalty minutes in his play for with the Boston Bruins last season.

According to Snežana the NHL has been advised of the burglary and intends to monitor websites like Craigslist and eBay to see if someone attempts to sell the distinctive ring.

The Vancouver Police Department's investigation is ongoing.


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Talk:Afghan government claims U.S. air strike killed dozens of civilians

I made the title of this article more NPOV. The former one was totally biased and anti-American. Need I remind everybody that we're here to report news, not our opinions. Things like this can seriously discredit Wikinews as a reliable news source. --WNewsReporter (talk) 21:06, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

 * You lost the original commentary page. When you rename an article it gives you a link that says something like, click here to move Comments. --SVTCobra 21:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll be sure to do that next time. Thanks. --WNewsReporter (talk) 21:28, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Boston Celtics win 17th NBA championship

celtics thrashed lakers in the last game la was poor

Comments from feedback form - "Awesome"
Awesome —68.42.64.74 (talk) 03:41, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


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User talk:Iuio

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Burglars steal Milan Lučić's Memorial Cup ring from his Vancouver home
Thanks for contributing this article, but please be careful with copyright violations. The second half of the article was a blatant copy-paste job from The Province article. --SVTCobra 22:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Crucifix in Northern Italy collapses, crushing man to death
Hi. In my (alas, not-ready) review, I tried to look past the first problem or two I found, to write in-depth review comments. Your previous contributions, I gather from your user page, were back before our current review system (see the first pillar at WN:PILLARS). There's a bit of a learning curve, which we try to help folks up, but we like to think though it can be steep at first, it's also fairly short and things get lots easier. --Pi zero (talk) 13:20, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

 * Hello. Well, I admit that it's been many years since I wrote anything for Wikinews, so I'm not as familiar with the new procedures. I have tweaked the article and resubmitted it for review, along with correcting the 800,000 catholic pilgrims statement, along with another source to substantiate the claim. Hope this works out. Thanks (Iuio (talk) 19:42, 25 April 2014 (UTC))

 * Published. Congrats!  See review comments.  --Pi zero (talk) 17:12, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

 * Ah, many thanks for your assistance, and all those edits you made to the article. Sorry for the inconvenience it must have cost you. I hope to learn from this and do better the next time I write another article. (Iuio (talk) 23:03, 26 April 2014 (UTC))

eBay removes Canadian town's listing of sperm whale carcass
You're already aware it's been published, obviously. Some stuff for you to work on; see history of edits during review. :-) --Pi zero (talk) 22:41, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reviewing the article. I would like to point out that while I was initially skeptical of the existence of the Department of Environment and Conservation, it apparently does exist, and this is their webpage. (Iuio (talk) 22:42, 8 May 2014 (UTC))
 * Interesting.
 * Though I still just don't figure where that item fit into the larger picture. --Pi zero (talk) 22:50, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I also wasn't too sure about it, either. Why did you change the date of The Telegraph source from May 5 to May 6? To my knowledge, the source was dated to May 5, and I saw no mention of a May 6 date, be it published or revised. This article was somewhat challenging, since Fenwick had a lot of differing quotes across the various sources, evidently, he gave multiple unique interviews to all of them. Still, I hope I did a decent enough job at synthesizing most of his quotes into a single artlce. (Iuio (talk) 22:53, 8 May 2014 (UTC))

 * Oh yes, an essentially solid article. :-)

 * When we know something was an exclusive to an org, we give 'em credit. I tried to add that in, here, when it was made entirely clear that was the case.  Though I agree he probably talked to each of them individually, as best I could tell many of them didn't actually say so explicitly.

 * The article says it was updated on the 6th. --Pi zero (talk) 23:10, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

 * You know, I don't see the 6th on it either. Perhaps I got the articles mixed up?  I know I saw an update on the 6th to one of them... <goes looking>  --Pi zero (talk) 23:12, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah. It was the Glob and Mail.  Will fix.  --Pi zero (talk) 23:14, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, well, I haven't seen any articles that credit sources individually like you've done here, so this is all new to me. I was concerned that this article might not, given its unusual and quirky subject matter, and the fact that it comes from a rural town, be newsworthy, or of interest in a global sense. But yes, I scoured that article, and cannot find any mention to the 6th, so I'm glad you sorted that out. I think the bit about the supposed phone call from the Department of Environment and Conservation may have been to show additional opposition to the sale, apart from eBay and Environment Canada, but it seems like a one-off thing. Speaking of eBay, I have noticed several old articles such as Woman sells name on eBay, eBay UK bans sale of Live 8 tickets, Driftwood crucifix listed on eBay for $25,000, Big shoes to fill at eBay, and IRS goes after eBay sellers that have to do with eBay but are not in the "eBay" category on Wikinews. I assume that they were written prior to the creation of the eBay category. Should they be put in the eBay category then? (Iuio (talk) 23:22, 8 May 2014 (UTC))

 * We don't usually credit which news source a fact came from unless they got an exclusive — but we try very hard to give other news orgs credit for their exclusives, just as we would want then to give us credit if they reported on our exclusive.

 * Re the category that isn't fully populated, the date that probably matters most is that the category was created before the creation of the w template. w serves more than one agenda; it's hugely aided us in categorizing articles — but only articles that use it.  Most of the articles in the archives don't use it (yet, though we're slowly coverting them), which makes it harder to spot when those articles mention something that now has a local redirect.  --Pi zero (talk) 23:42, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Thanks for the help on the eBay category. For the article, I accessed eBay's policy page on May 7, not May 8, to check the basis of the policy violation that eBay was citing when it took down the listing. Not sure what Wikinews policy is regarding undated sources. So we just mention what the date of access is for a source without a date? (Iuio (talk) 01:16, 9 May 2014 (UTC))
 * Source citations must have a date. If a source doesn't have a date attached to it, use the date of access (and specify on the citation that it's the date of access, as I did).  Naturally, specify your date of access — but I figure, when I'm reviewing, the sources become the record of what the article was checked against, so I update the date-of-access to reflect the version that I'm using during review (if different from the reporter's date-of-access).  --Pi zero (talk) 03:01, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Response
Hi there, I responded back! Diego Grez Cañete (talk) 05:32, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Chinese police arrest six after woman beaten to death at Shandong McDonald's
Hi. Published the article. I'm unsure (as remarked in my review comments) whether I was right to push forward with the review, or should have not-ready'd. You need to work on not copying passages from sources. I realize "use your own words" is harder than it sounds, but it should be possible to acquire the skill with practice. Hopefully, by seeing what I felt needed addressing during review, you can get a sense of what you need to avoid. (When I produced is not ideal; my edits were a stopgap, to deal with the situation as I found it, while minimizing my intervention as a reviewer.) --Pi zero (talk) 18:03, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Article
So you'll have your material for a possible future article, I'm going to past the van Gogh bits at:     User:Iuio/van Gogh article. OK? --Bddpaux (talk) 15:02, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

one out of three
I'm sad that I only managed to review one of the three articles you wrote, though I'm glad I got one of them out. This is a very tense time here, as we work to get out a massive article ahead of the US presidential election on November 8. --Pi zero (talk) 00:50, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

w
If you want to link something to wikipedia, please use the w template. acagastya 11:29, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Donald Trump claims on Twitter that Time magazine nominated him 'Person of the Year'
Hi. This is a problematic case; an interestingly problematic case, actually. Review comments. --Pi zero (talk) 01:20, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

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