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Los Angeles Times launches editorial wiki

June 19, 2005

The Los Angeles Times has launched a web site where readers can collaboratively edit and respond to certain editorials from the paper. The site, called Wikitorial, uses a type of software known as a wiki. Registered users over 13 years of age may edit and contribute to designated "Wikitorials". On Friday, the Times posted the site's first editorial on latimes.com, entitled "War and Consequences". The corresponding Wikitorial is named "Dreams About War and Retribution".

In its introduction to Wikitorial, a Los Angeles Times editor invited readers to "rewrite the editorial yourself" if they thought something could be improved. The unsigned introduction to Wikitorial drew parallels with Wikipedia, which was said to work "bewilderingly well". The Times hopes that its self-admitted experiment will help a wider range of people express their opinions on editorial topics. The newspaper has acknowledged that the idea may not work, saying "Plenty of skeptics are predicting embarrassment; like an arthritic old lady who takes to the dance floor, they say, the Los Angeles Times is more likely to break a hip than to be hip."

"War and Consequences", a traditional editorial, serves as a starting point for wiki users. The opinion piece calls for clearer goals in the United States' current military involvement in Iraq. The author proposes a clear timetable for training Iraqi troops and police officers, and states that people need to be held responsible for intelligence failures leading up to the war, and failures to provide sufficient troops during and after the war.

The corresponding wikitorial, named "Dreams About War and Retribution", initially started as an exact copy of "War and Consequences" when it was posted on June 17. Since then it has been edited over 150 times. The original editorial confined itself to points supporting two basic claims: The need for a timetable, and the need for responsibility. In contrast, the wikitorial has increased the original scope considerably, weighing in on topics such as the Downing Street memo and drawing analogies to the Philippine-American War. One contributor even accused the American media, including the L.A. Times itself, of dereliction due to their uncritical coverage of the U.S. administration shortly before the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

As of mid day today, June 19th, the LATWiki Main Page has been replaced with the text "Where is the wikitorial? Unfortunately, we have had to remove this feature, at least temporarily, because a few readers were flooding the site with inappropriate material. Thanks and apologies to the thousands of people who logged on in the right spirit. " There is speculation that this could be due to the Slashdot effect as it was recently Posted on Slashdot and that the LA Times was not prepared for the editing wars which quickly ensued.


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Talk:Los Angeles Times launches editorial wiki

Not sure how or if to publish this. I think it's developed, but who knows? There's much more that could be added. Rhobite 05:02, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * I think it's ready. For what it's worth, Jimbo and I spent some time building things out, moving some pages around, adding some help text. Eloquence also popped in as did NGerda. I have also had some email communication with the LATimes people. I don't want to do O.R. reporting on this though. -- IlyaHaykinson 17:39, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I saw some familiar names when I was looking through the wiki. From the start it seemed like a half-baked idea. It doesn't seem like they committed enough administrative or editorial staff to keep the wiki running smoothly. There is also the question of whether an editorial can even work as a public wiki. Due to the lack of an objective standard such as NPOV, the editorial seemed to go in all directions at once. Maybe they should have picked a duller topic for their very first "wikitorial". Rhobite 01:49, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:Associated Press publishes 6 new "secret and confidential" Downing Street memos

Can these memos be placed in wikisource? I'd be interested in copying there but it may be considered a copyvio. Usurper 07:08, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Please add this article to Category:Daily Telegraph (United Kingdom). Thank you. Green Giant (talk) 22:37, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
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User talk:Pjones~enwikinews

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Wikinews:2005/June/19

 * Michelin's tyre mistake sends US Formula One Grand Prix into farce
 * Los Angeles Times launches editorial wiki

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Australian PM Howard under fire over AU$1.40/L pump prices
I liked your article on petrol prices. I'll see if I can get a picture of a price sign at a petrol station. - Borofkin 00:37, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:65.96.248.207

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User talk:62.108.125.44

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User talk:200.174.116.252

Welcome
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User talk:NGerda/Archive 2

This is User talk:NGerda Archive 2, performed at 19:00 UTC on June 19, 2005.

=Archive 2=

Audio News
Hi Nick,

I just listened to a couple of your audio broadcasts. This is excellent work, you're a great speaker with a very clear voice; the technical quality is also superb. One thing I noted is that your pronunciation was a bit off on a few words. An example was "Jacques Chirac". No criticism: I'd get a lot more of those words wrong, being a native German speaker. One good starting point for many pronunciations is Wikipedia -- in this case, Jacques Chirac even has an audio file. Besides Wikipedia, there's Commons:Category:Pronunication. Perhaps we should make a list of words that are frequently mispronounced in news stories and link them to pronunciation files on the Commons?--Eloquence 23:25, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Great suggestion, I'll definitely take that into consideration when I start my next broadcast in about an hour. I'll try to take commonly mispronounced words and link to their correct pronunciation within the Audio Wikinews transcript.  I do speak Spanish fluently, but I am a little hazy at my French and Italian pronunciations.  Until now, I've played it safe and tried to pronounce the names in an American accent, but I will definately get the native pronunciations down now.  Hearing from you is great!  Check out WNN, and thanks for listening to the show!

Transcript Format
I'm learning radio production at the moment through my local NPR news station, so I would like to contribute to Audio Wikinews in the near future. On transcript format I can already contribute. In this example Ive reformatted some of a transcript of yours to make it correspond to conventional radio-news style:

 * Writer -- Cart  --   Duration     --      Total        --            Slug                 --    Date
 * Nick -- (name of file of actuality)   -- (dur. of actuality) -- (total dur. of recording)  -- Defense Dept. Denies Funding    --   6/3/05 5:23 UTC
 * THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE HAS DENIED FEDERAL FUNDING TO TWO LAW SCHOOLS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT ALLOW MILITARY RECRUITERS ON CAMPUS. ...
 * [Cart No: (hard-drive location and name of actuality-file]
 * Time: (duration of actuality, in seconds)
 * Title: (name of actuality, should include speaker's name and subject of soundbite)
 * Out-cue: (The last few words spoken before the actuality cuts off)
 *
 * IN THE FALL THE U.S. SUPREME COURT IS LINED UP TO HEAR A CASE INVOLVING SEVERAL COLLEGES REGARDING MILITARY RECRUITMENT AT UNIVERSITIES.
 *
 * IN THE FALL THE U.S. SUPREME COURT IS LINED UP TO HEAR A CASE INVOLVING SEVERAL COLLEGES REGARDING MILITARY RECRUITMENT AT UNIVERSITIES.

Note: Capitals are a common radio scripting convention but are certainly not required. An actuality is a cut to a source. Sometimes an actuality is complete report recorded by a reporter other than the host. In that case (called a "spot", or "package"), the actuality must be introduced with "(Name of reporter) reports:". If the host is the reporter (a "wrap"), the actualities are interview soundbites and should be inroduced with "(Title and name of source, context of quote)". The purpose of going to an actuality is to make the news sound authoritative and to break the monotony of a single voice.

When scripting, avoid just reading the news as it is on Wikipedia. Ask yourself, "Can someone listening for the first time understand everything?" Other standard advice: limit numbers; one thought or fact per sentence; keep word choice simple; pay close attention to verb tense and use of active verbs.

Good luck! Kevin 17:19 Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

Block
I am compleatly sorry man, i acted without even thinking, dang impersonaters.--Ryan524 06:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL! It's okay, I forgive you.  You've learned your lesson.  At least it was me!  NGerda 06:58, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

WikiNews Network, Audio Wikinews
I've raised some concerns about these on the Water cooler (under policy), could you take a look? Dan100 (Talk) 12:37, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

COTW Map
No program. I manually update it using good old fashioned Paint. The numbers come from Ronlines userpage (which I actually maintain! - im going to move it to its own namespace soon.) I also have created both Africa and maps. I was intending to create a great and hopefully eyeopening page about article distribution - but never got the time... i'll do it now... maybe... → CGorman (Talk)  16:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The reason I was asking was because I was interesting in helping you out with it. NGerda 16:49, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * When I have the namespace set up you are more than welcome to help with keeping stats up to date... I just don't think you should edit Ronlines userpage in the meantime; its bad ettiquette. → CGorman (Talk)  17:16, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * OK, and check out IRC.

Medal
Wow I can't believe is getting such use - I created it in 5 minutes one evening after a very bad attack from the Ass puss vandel to boost moral. → CGorman (Talk)  17:13, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * LOL NGerda 17:14, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

'Breaking news'
I see no-one is removing this after a story is no longer 'breaking' - I've just had to. In doing so, I've made a bunch of old stories rise to the top of DPLs, making them look newer than they are. I can't see anyway of removing the cat without editing a story, which would have the same effect.

The Wikinews website has to come first, before any off-site application. Dan100 (Talk) 17:34, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * How does a Breaking News category hinder Wikinews? NGerda 17:36, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

As I said above - removing them, when people haven't done so, means old stories float back to the top. Is is you adding them? How about you remove them after a few hours when the story is no longer 'breaking'? Dan100 (Talk) 18:06, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me :) NGerda 18:08, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

3RR
NGerda, a user only breaks the WN:3RR when a user reverts for the fourth time. I only reverted twice. Dan100 (Talk) 10:27, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) "Don't revert any page more than three times within a period of 24 hours." -3RR

 * ah block him for 24hours then...lol...he could use it, maybe then he'd stop raising my blood pressure, :P--Ryan524 15:40, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Dan100 is correct, it is the fourth revert that is banable --Cspurrier 16:27, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah i mis-understood what Dan100 was saying, i thought he was telling NGerda after he (NGerda) reverted something a fourth time....lol....but also note the 3RR does not apply to obvious vandalism.--Ryan524 16:30, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Audio News
I'd be interested in doing a daily broadcast of Wikinews. How would I go about this? You seem to be the current dude who is responsobile for all of this. Cheers --Matt von Furrie 10:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

New AW release
Here's my new release, to be uploaded to WNN: [[Media:20050612-2330UTC.ogg|June 12, 2005 - 2330 UTC: Audio Wikinews]] --Mrmiscellanious 23:53, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

**** Congratulations on adminship ****
Belated congrats. All the best. Paulrevere2005 17:08, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

What
Why did you delete several weeks of data by reverting my recent edits at Awareness statistics? → CGorman (Talk)  17:53, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * No prob, just be careful with that mouse. → CGorman (Talk)  21:12, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * It wasn't the mouse, it was the database. NGerda 21:12, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * That was supposed to be a bad joke! I know it was the database. → CGorman (Talk)  09:31, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Welcome
I see you've done a bit of welcoming - feel free to add your name to Welcommittee. → CGorman (Talk)  17:55, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Terry Schiavo image
Hi,

I deleted Image:Terri Schiavo.jpg, as it lacked a proper fair use tag. I recognized it as an image that was frequently used on CNN; as such, it is almost certainly not legal for us to use it as fair use. As an admin, please help to speedy-delete locally uploaded images without the required fair use tags in accordance with our fair use policy. Thanks,--Eloquence 04:22, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Check this out please
check these out

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050618/ap_on_bi_ge/credit_cards_breach_26

versus

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050618/ap_on_bi_ge/credit_cards_breach

The top is the earlier story on yahoo news; the lower is the later one TO WHICH PEOPLE ARE REDIRECTED IF THEY CLICK ON EARLIER STORY LINKS, JUST AS WITH THE TOP SOURCE ON SATURDAY'S WIKI ARTCLE ABOUT THIS EVENT!

IMO we are witnissing a very primitive attempt at an important cover-up. The first AP story said that CardSystems' Friday statement was

"vetted by the FBI". "The company said it was told by the FBI not to release any information to the public; its statement Friday had been vetted by the agency."

The FBI vetted statement is the very statement that said the FBI told them not to advise the public about the cards being compromised.

Now unless we believe that Cardsystems is so stupid and reckless as to falsely accuse the FBI of putting customers' accounts at risk AND THEN to lie and say the FBI vetted the statement making that accusation; then this recent story is simply a lie and a cover-up..which I think it obviously is.

This link []shows that some of the links to the original AP story titled "40M Credit Card Accounts Could Be Affected" have been redirected to the later AP story titled "MasterCard: 68,000 Customers at High Risk". The later story reassures customers and has an FBI spokeswoman contradicting Friday's statement by cardsystems. The FBI spokes person even says the information should have been released;

The new version says;

"CardSystems' chief financial officer, Michael A. Brady, said Friday that his company was "blindsided" by the MasterCard release, adding that his company was told by the FBI not to release any information to the public.

Deb McCarley(FBI SPOKESPERSON) said MasterCard was obliged to its customers to release the information and was not told by the FBI to keep the security breach private.

McCarley said the FBI did ask CardSystems to not release details that might compromise the investigation - but she denied that the FBI had asked the company to not disclose that the intrusion occurred.

"I'm not sure where they got that impression," she said, adding that it was important for the public to be warned so card holders can be more careful while checking their statements."

The new version leaves out the reference to the Friday statement by CardSystems having been vetted by the FBI.

I think that the FBI actually broke some laws when they told CardSystems not to tell the public about the compromising of the cards; ESPECIALLY some European laws (lots of those cards are likely owned by Europeans) and now the FBI is shitting all over themselves trying to cover it up.

I think there is 1 hell of a story waiting here about this "cover up" and I think the people at Cardsystems might be willing to be interviwed about this. Paulrevere2005 05:02, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Great question;(answer in next sub-topic).

I think that the FBI broke laws related to aiding and abetting fraud by giving the thieves lots more time to steal people's money by causing a lengthy delay in when the public found out about the theft. As their spokesperson later said, its important for customers to know ASAP so they can keep an extra sharp eye on their statements. Another giant hole in the FBI cover-up is "why didn't they warn the public themselves???" since they know how important it is for an early customer warning.

This could be a HUGE story.

answer to your question
What I'd love to see is a live interview on your radio broadcast with CardSystems' chief financial officer, Michael A. Brady; where he would be asked exactly what the FBI said that caused the delay in releasing the information.

quote from 1st AP (Bruno) story;"CardSystems' chief financial officer, Michael A. Brady said Friday that his company was "blindsided" by the MasterCard release, adding that his company was told by the FBI not to release any information to the public."

I thought about trying a telephone interview but it would not have near the impact or credibility as a radio broadcast. Paulrevere2005 13:05, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ross Goings-on
Skype bugged out, then mother took her laptop back and I'm switching over to a 12" iBook that has neither colloquy nor skype loaded. stay tuned. --RossKoepke 18:50, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Michelin's tyre mistake sends US Formula One Grand Prix into farce

June 19, 2005

The Indianapolis Formula One Grand Prix descended into farce when just six cars started the race on Sunday. The problem arose when Michelin discovered that its tires were incapable of more than ten laps at race pace.

The first indication of trouble was when the rear left tire of Ralf Schumacher's Toyota racecar exploded during practice on Friday. Schumacher's car collided with the track wall while travelling at 300 km/h (approx. 186 miles/h), leaving him shaken but generally unharmed. However, further investigations by Michelin revealed that another ten tires had suffered problems, with one also failing on track.

All the problems occurred on the rear left tire during the two long 90 degree corners leading onto the main straight. The nine degree banking and grooves cut into the surface of the track compounded problems.

It is believed that Michelin may not have properly accounted for the grooves cut into the Indianapolis track to improve grip for Indy cars after the track was resurfaced. Indy cars have smaller down-force generating wings so need more grip from their tires than Formula One cars.

Bridgestone, the other tire manufacturer currently in Formula One, did not have similar problems. It is possible that their US subsidiary, Firestone, who supplied tires for an Indy car race after the resurfacing, may have sent information back to their Formula One tires department in Japan. The three teams running Bridgestone tires - Ferrari, Jordan and Minardi - were therefore able to compete without any safety concerns.

Under FIA racing regulations, the only course of action was for the Michelin runners to withdraw from the race on safety grounds. Rules prevented alternative tires from being flown from France overnight, although Michelin were unsure whether these tires were also affected by the problem.

Drivers and teams had also suggested building a chicane to slow cars down between the corners, but Ferrari opposed the idea, and ultimately the FIA rejected the idea under regulations.

Actually the FIA rules states that the tyres manufacters should provide two sets of tyres for the race. One normal, optimized for performance, and one optimized for safety, to be used when the normal one set could not be used. In this case the safe set was not present.

The 123,000 fans watching from the stands were unaware of the farce unfolding below them until the parade lap before the race.

The fourteen Michelin runners peeled off into the pit lane rather than take up their starting positions on the grid. However, at least one driver, David Coulthard told his team that he was willing to race on the tires in question, had the decision been left up to him.

Fans jeered and booed as they realised what was happening, and a small number began throwing bottles and cans onto the track.

Rubens Barrichello, in a Ferrari, ran over one bottle of water at high speed which exploded in a spray of droplets.

Fans started stamping in the stands on the finish line straight, causing them to shake.

A British ITV filmcrew spoke to some fans. "I paid $85 for three-day ticket. I travelled nine hours from Baltimore to be here. Indy cars wouldn't do this. NASCAR wouldn't do this. I'll never attend a race again - only watch on TV."

Other fans had travelled from Mexico and Panama to watch the race, and said they wanted refunds.

A Police Captain also talked to ITV, saying he'd never seen fans as angry as this before. If trouble flared, they could call on 400-500 officers from local and state police, Indianapolis Police Department and the FBI under contingency plans.

The race was eventually won by Michael Schumacher from his Ferrari teammate Rubens Barrichello. Jordan's Tiago Monteiro finished third. Despite what was clearly a one-manufacturer race for the win, both Ferrari drivers did indeed race one another hard, with them almost colliding following Schumacher's exit from the pit lane after his second pitstop, with Barrichello having to take to the infield to avoid spinning off. Following the race, the two drivers did not speak.

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Scribbled into Notepad as I watch ITV F1 coverage:

123,000 people in crowd

oblivious to what was happening

Coulthard on radio could race

boos and jeers when cars peeled off into pit lane

11 tyres damaged 9 not failed but bad

Michelien could fly tyres in 5 rules prevented

stamping in stands rocking

bottles cans thrown Barichello drives over one

Fans boo start

ITV interviews crowd

$85 all days lots of money 9hr travel from Baltimore Indy NASCAR wouldn't do this will only watch on telly

Flew from Mexico cost of staying 'unacceptable'

Panama absolutely wrong

crowd chant 'refund'

Police confront angry fans - sherrif's dept police captain - most fans being good - never had angry fans. State police and IDP FBI contigency plan 400-500 officers available

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farce
Hey guys, I know the grand prix didn't go well, but is the word "farce" a little subjective? Maybe the headline could be changed to reflect what the tire mistake caused, like give how many teams had to quit or whatever. It would eliminate pov and make it more descriptive.

 * personally i think it's simply the truth the use the word farce, because that was what it was, even the competing drivers felt it wasn't a real race. 130.89.11.31 08:11, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * I can see your point about it being subjective, but 'farce' seems to be the generally accepted view. Looking around many other news sources, the word 'farce' seems to be a popular one to use: see the talk page for the Wikipedia article for some examples given by SoM . If the title were changed, associated links to it from Wikipedia would also have to be edited. 83.216.156.113 11:47, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

tyre
Being a US story, this should probably refer to "tires" not "tyres". Ajs 19:06, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * The convention in general is to use the style of the first author. So in this case, tyre should probably stay. -- IlyaHaykinson 19:40, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually the convention for Wikinews is to use the subject of the story (In this case a U.S. event) or the orignal author - with consistency being the overriding factor in any disputes. I think you have the "first author" rule confused with Wikipedia's policy. -- Davodd | Talk 21:45, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

who the hell spells it 'tyre' anyway?
 * The Brits. NGerda 16:13, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

The FIA not "race organisers"

Well, if it's going to stay "tyre", someone should go and standardize the spelling throughout the article. I'd do it, but I'm at work. Although that didn't stop me from commenting here.

Brits do not spell tire 'tyre' - we spell it 'tire'. No idea where this 'farce' of an idea came from! Nice article though...'spray of droplets' particularly graphic and gratifiying!

 * Okay, Brits who can spell spell "tyre" as "tyre". That is, the things that go around on wheels. 81.159.161.50 21:27, 3 August 2005 (UTC)


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Again, where's the notes? Dan100 (Talk) 19:21, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I know Clare probably wrote this but we can't just dodge rules when we feel like it. Dan100 (Talk) 19:22, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The problems started arising when you took the "Notes" link off of the Original reporting tag. NGerda 19:24, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * Um, yeh I thought I did include notes when I submitted the story, where did they go? No time just now but will put them back in. ClareWhite 09:56, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * If you get the chance Clare :-)
 * NGerda, the sub-page for notes has been deprecated for some time now. Dan100 (Talk) 09:25, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Iran election going to run-off, challenger alleges fraud

June 20, 2005

Friday's elections whittled Iran's field of presidential candidates from eight to two, but the incredibly close vote has led to the scheduling of an unprecedented runoff to be held next Friday.

Candidates Mahmoud Ahmadizezhad and Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani will square off next week --- unless candidate Mehdi Karroubi has his way. Karroubi has alleged voting irregularities and has called on Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei to investigate. Karroubi alleges that members of the unelected Guardian Council and the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps conspired to rig votes. These charges were seconded late Saturday by reformist candidate Mostafa Moin, who had been leading in some pre-election polls but placed third in Friday's vote.

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Audio Wikinews transcript – 2005 06 20 – 0015 UTC
As reported by Nicholas Gerda

June 20, 2005. This is Wikinews.

Lead Story
US trade deficit increases to record high in first quarter 2005 The United States trade deficit increased to its highest level yet: $195.1 billion (£161 billion) in the first quarter of 2005, according to preliminary U.S. Commerce Department figures. The figure represents the sum of money flowing into the United States by selling exports subtracted from the amount of money leaving the United States from import purchases. The last quarter of 2004 saw a deficit of $188.4 billion.

The new record-breaking deficit represents 6.4 percent of the US's gross national product, again an increase on last-quarter 2004 - up 0.1 percent. The deficit on goods increased from $182.2 billion to $186.3 billion, as imports of goods increased more than exports, particularly in industrial supplies and materials, capital goods, and consumer products. It is believed that China's economic boom, and the increase in imports from the country, is partly responsible.

Analysts expressed concern at the findings, with Allan Seychuk, an economist at RBC Capital Markets, saying "This is not the direction markets were hoping to see for the mammoth current account deficit. The U.S. dollar has lost a great deal of ground because markets are uncomfortable with a deficit that has now reached record levels."

Headlines
Hotel Rwanda hero tours USA Paul Rusesabagina, the real-life hero portrayed in the film "Hotel Rwanda", visited Atlanta, Ga. and Washington, D.C. this week to address American students and business leaders at schools and conferences centers. His appearances coincide with World Refugee Day events in Washington. At Sleepy Hollow Elementary School in the Falls Church section of Fairfax County, he spoke to elementary school students who had learned about his accomplishments in the weeks prior to his appearance.

"I thought I was doing the right thing," Rusesabagina said. "You also should do the right thing." He explained the situation he faced in simple terms. "There were bad people and good people. The good people came to hide in my hotel, I had to give them food. I had to give them shelter and keep away the bad people for two and a half months." When asked if he was scared, he responded "No, fortunately I did not have time to be scared. I did not know that what I was doing was different. I thought other people were doing it."

In Atlanta, speaking with business leaders, he focused on the present and future.

"What is going on in Darfur is exactly what had been going on in Rwanda, the government is killing its own citizens." He encouraged business leaders to bring money into Africa but made it clear that Africa was in need of more than just business interest. "What Africans need as a whole is not only someone who will come and pay their education, but it is also to change the systems in Africa. To help us to change, to find lasting solutions. Africa is ruled by dictators. And those dictators should know that one day they also can be brought to justice," emphasizing the idea that Africa needed a political revamping to stabilize.

Six killed in Burundi church massacre Rebels from the Hutu-extremist "Forces Nationales de Liberation" have shot dead six churchgoers in Muhuta district, Bujumbura-Rural, according to army spokesman Adolphe Manirakiza.

"The first criminal attack was committed in one church at Muhuta district where a group of FNL fighters fired in the church and killed six people including a pastor. They also injured seven others", Manirakiza said.

He said the rebels shot dead a local government official and his brother and also kidnapped a policeman in the same district.

"We don't know yet why these people were killed, they may be executed because they refused to adhere to the FNL ideology, as the area where they have been killed is an FNL stronghold," said Manirakiza.

Some 300,000 people have been killed since the fighting began in 1993.

Fresh talks between the government and the FNL have raised hopes among diplomats that Burundi can finally lift one of its last big barriers to peace. Its leader Agathon Rwasa and Burundi President, Domitien Ndayizeye signed on May 15 in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, a cessation of hostilities deal seen as a significant step toward finally bringing the rebels into the peace process.

But the rebels and the army have clashed sporadically since the truce.

Youth forum to submit suggestions to UN The Never Again youth forum on genocide prevention ended in Kigali, Rwanda with young people from the Great Lakes region and other countries making a string of recommendations for the prevention of genocide.

Following the visit by the World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz, during which he promised to give the Never Again network his "moral support" and asked members about their views on what African youth needed, the network will send its ideas to the consultation for civil society on the U.N. High Level Panel to be discussed in September, which includes bringing in a new principle of Responsibity to Protect into the international framework of sovereignty.

Conference participants called for more local input in international protection work as well as for the international community to listen more to voices on the ground. They accused the international community of failing in their duty by not giving U.N. missions more power on the ground and using the "excuse" that they did not know local languages and therefore did not respond to incitement to violence towards Tutsis broadcast on national radio in the lead-up to the genocide in Rwanda in 1994.

Many participants criticised the uneven responses given my the international community to different regions. A participant from the Congo called for help to be given to "all citizens in the world, without distinction". Another said: "If our poverty [in Africa] is the cause of our being ignored then I fear for the future. Where there is interest there is energy and I fear we will lose the energy."

The final day also featured intense dialogue on regional confict in the Great Lakes region and showed the different perspectives on the Burundi/Rwanda refugee story (link). Discussion groups looked at ways in which the youth could could create better international networks and improve critical thinking and communication amongst the youth.

A media group took part in the conference and reported it for Wikinews this week. They will now produce a publication which will be translated into Kinyarwandan and distributed vocally as well as on paper as a way of involving young Rwandese from rural areas who have very high levels of poverty and illiteracy.

Wikipedia Current Events

 * In the 2005 Iranian presidential election, the hardline mayor of Tehran, Mahmoud Ahmadinezhad (right), unexpectedly follows Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani to the run-off race, to be held on June 24.
 * Jamaican Asafa Powell sets a new world record of 9.77 seconds in 100m sprinting.
 * Executive Deputy President Jacob Zuma of South Africa, implicated in a high-profile corruption trial, is dismissed by President Thabo Mbeki.
 * A major opinion poll suggests that only 30% of Irish voters would vote yes in a planned Irish referendum on the European Constitution.

Today in History provided by Wikipedia
June 20 is Flag Day in Argentina.

 * 1756 - A British garrison was imprisoned in the Black Hole of Calcutta.
 * 1789 - 577 Deputies of the French Third Estate (commoners) took the Tennis Court Oath, starting the French Revolution.
 * 1837 - Queen Victoria succeeded to the British throne.
 * 1947 - A Mafia hitman murdered gangster Bugsy Siegel in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Today's fact provided by Wikipedia
The Delaware Basin in Texas contains fossilised coral reefs from the Permian.

Thank you for joining us for today's segment. Join us again tomorrow for more headlines, news, facts, and anniversaries.

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 * Filmcrew working for Channel 4 arrested for soaking Tom Cruise in London
 * Scores killed and wounded in Iraq as violence escalates

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Google planning PayPal rival

June 20, 2005

Financial analysts say Google is planning an e-wallet service that could eventually compete with eBay's payment service PayPal. Google has not confirmed the development.

The rumor is a first sign of Google's expected expansion of revenue sources to capitalize on its advertising customer base and search-engine traffic. What form that expansion will take has been a hotly debated subject for the company whose stock valuation momentarily made it the world's biggest media company on June 7, 2005. Even Microsoft has been mentioned as a possible future competitor.

Ebay's stock valuation dipped more than 2% on the news. Paypal currently accounts for one-fifth of the company's revenues. But one business analyst saw potential benefit for Paypal, depending on exactly how the "Google Wallet" takes shape. The uncertainty underlined the lack of substantive information behind the rumor.

According to the New York Times, the CEO of a major online merchant, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, was approached by Google to take part in this service. Steve Langdon, a Google spokesperson, declined to comment.

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Scores killed and wounded as violence escalates in Iraq

June 20, 2005

Intense violent turmoil in Iraq continued Sunday and Monday when attacks across the country killed more than 80 people. A busy restaurant frequented by police officers was the target of the deadliest attack: a suicide bombing that claimed 23 lives and wounded more than 36 others.

"There were a number of policemen outside the restaurant having tea from Alaa, the tea man. There were two tables with chairs around them where the policemen were sitting. Then a suicide bomber came close to them and blew himself up," said a 29-year-old witness, Qusay Kaabi, according to the. "It was a very loud explosion, and the restaurant was filled with smoke and dust."

The New York Times reported that, in an aura of resignation, older men just 80 yards away resumed curbside games of checkers even before workers finished cleaning away chunks of flesh. "It's Iraqis who die like this, not Americans," Muhammad Jasem, 25 and unemployed, told the Times. "We never saw this kind of thing before they came." In the capital city alone, more than 600 civilians have perished in the six weeks since Prime Minister named his Shiite-led cabinet on April 28.

In on Sunday, a man killed himself and five Iraqis while targeting a U.S. military base in a car rigged with explosives. Early Monday, a suicide attacker in detonated his vehicle in a crowd of police recruits. Local officials confirm the blast killed 15 and wounded 100, some severely. The city was cited just yesterday by Foreign Minister as one of many relatively stable areas of the country.

The surge in violence has occurred while and Iraqi troops battle insurgents near  on the Syrian border. and warplanes pounded targets to support a 1,000 Marine force. A Marine statement also said patrols in the devastated city of came under attack Sunday. According to the statement, 15 insurgents were killed while the attack was repulsed.


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Schapelle Corby found guilty, sentenced to 20 years
Come on Australia! How can you accept this? Go get that girl! This could be your daughter - your girlfriend - your mother - This is a time to ask, what is the morally right action here? Australia and Airline Carrier that transported Schapelle are to blame for not ensuring that her luggage was drug free BEFORE she left for Indonesia. Make this right - until you do, neither I or anyone I know will set foot in Indonesia or Australia - we will keep our money and our freedom thank you.

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Schapelle Corby found guilty, sentenced to 20 years
Come on Australia! How can you accept this? Go get that girl! This could be your daughter - your girlfriend - your mother - This is a time to ask, what is the morally right action here? Australia and Airline Carrier that transported Schapelle are to blame for not ensuring that her luggage was drug free BEFORE she left for Indonesia. Make this right - until you do, neither I or anyone I know will set foot in Indonesia or Australia - we will keep our money and our freedom thank you.

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Filmcrew working for Channel 4 arrested for soaking Tom Cruise in London

June 20, 2005

Four members of a filmcrew have been arrested on suspicion of assault after squirting water at movie star Tom Cruise at the London premiere of the War of the Worlds on Sunday evening.

The crew were freelancers filming a new comedy show for Channel 4. Channel 4 has no production facilities itself; all television programmes are commissioned from independent companies.

Cruise had been on a walkabout meeting and greeting fans, and was being interviewed by the crew under the impression that it was a serious interview, when they used a fake microphone to squirt him in the face.

Cruise remained calm throughout. He took hold of the culprit, grasping his wrist, asking him why he did it.

"Why would you do that? What's so funny about that? It's ridiculous. Do you like making less of people?"

"Don't run away. That's incredibly rude."

"I'm here giving you an interview, answering your questions and you do something nasty. You're a jerk."

Security guards then took the filmcrew away, before they were arrested and bailed by the police. The crew face further questioning by officers today.

Scotland Yard have said, "We will see whether to pursue the charges, or see whether the victim wants to pursue it."

Tom Cruise resumed meeting fans and signing autographs, spending an hour in Leicester Square.


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I also saw the whole incident on TV news. I believe it's fair to say Cruise was calm. Dan100 (Talk) 12:51, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't say he was calm - he went a little crazy. --OldakQuill 22:56, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's a comedy show - working name "Grand Classics" according to the Guardian - they've already done it to Sharon Osborne. I'm not sure "celebrity gets squirted with water" is very interesting but the world media seem to love it. Secretlondon 16:43, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)


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idea on comments
I personally think we should have comments because people like puuting there $0.02 in. This is just an idea I had on how it could be implemented, assuming everyone desides they want comments. If we do decide to have comments, there's proably someone better then me at wiki-editing who will have a better idea on how to implement it. Bawolff 15:06, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

test
test comment --User:Unforgettableid

Poetential problems
Potential solution:
 * 1) Anyone can edit comments. (will apear different in RC then posting a comment I think though)
 * 2) Nothing forcing people to sign.
 * 3) all coments flat (not threaded, potential problem for large volume of coments)
 * 4) May not work in articles needing TOC or with multiple sections (can be worked around)
 * Make a bot that will automaticly rollback edits that are not comments (listen in to the IRC rc or something like that) and change the title of each comment like this:

Super cool coment title
To:

Super cool coment title (By: ~)
Note I can't program or make bots so the feisability of that is something I don't know. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:22, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Uh-oh
Doesn't look like Comments are marked specially in RC :(. That could cause vandalism problems

it could be
looks alright but ima intrested to see how it works. i dont think other will like the idea but i support commments on the news i think ..--Whywhywhy 08:12, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

fixed couple bugs - looking forward
TODO:
 * Find some way to use the iff template to display a msg if no ones commented yet. see commented areas in user:bawolff/comment (update: would be paser functions now)
 * Look into using hide/reappear comments via css ( posibility for some sort of moderation system (update: didn't know what i was talking about wwhen I wrote this)
 * other intreasting problems I havn't though of yet/have forget before I have written them down.
 * Try and convince people to actually use this. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 08:46, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Just seeing how it works
Hey, this could be cool! :) I've actually thought a good bit about how to do comments.  I'll put some of it here.  Nyarlathotep 01:03, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, quite impressive use of the wiki. :) So my thoughts are that comments on the article page ought to be "improvable" by anyone, but that the original author ought to be respected.  Nyarlathotep 01:13, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

BTW, One could imagine a whole wikiblog/wikioped site built around this principle, i.e. articles have a list of authors & the wishes of the authors are respected within that article. But there is some other procedure for determining the "worth" of articles, i.e. moderation.

Anyway, I don't think you want comment moderation if it can be avoided. Its best to work out a sence of wiki-etiquette which allows for the wiki-like "improvment" of comments, but has respect of authorship, addition of authorship, etc. As for threading & moderation, just let people "sort" the comments themselves to provide threads & moderation. Nyarlathotep 01:19, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Thats probaly a good idea
In regards to moderation. I probaly wouldn't be able to do it in CSS anyway, and even if i did it wouldn't work in internet explorer. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:59, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Internet Explorer
Internet Explorer is WYSIWTF?

Anyway... Can't the more inviting comment system you suggest be better served with a Comments namespace? I'd be happy to have a template to add to articles inviting comments - or even include it on the default article pages. We probably need Comments and Comments/acceptable use to define things like "extreme and offensive foul language with be deleted on sight, racism will not be tolerated". However, on that latter point I wonder if we are better leaving it to illustrate that the poster is a bigot and responding by calling it what it is. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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 * Wow, how'd you find this. I havn't talked about this in about 2 months. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:56, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

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blah, oooh, kool :p Symode09 23:24, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
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 * I don't think that would work, as then it wouldn't transclude this page properly. (unless you use a non-wiki redirection system) Bawolff ☺☻ 03:31, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Umm
As I said before...everyone including anonymous users can see the comments tab. I am against any "box" going on any article page. Its tacky and its against NPOV policy IMO. DragonFire1024 09:45, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes I know. The same argument has happened about 5 times since i originally created it. Each time the end resualt is no to comments, but each time more and more people support comments. Which is kind of interesting. I just spam this page whenever the discussion comes up as an idea for what to do if ti is decided to totally allow comments. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comments are fine...with the way they are set up now. The tab is there...thats all we need IMO. DragonFire1024 03:28, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Iran election going to run-off, challenger alleges fraud

for archival purposes
i'm not sure if this is wikolitically correct (probably this should go to wikisource? feel free to shift it there, i haven't contributed there yet...), but just in case the iranian news agency has unexpected server problems, it's probably useful to have a copy of the most important bits of the two pages cited: http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-234/0506180698161043.htm

 * Out of a total of 26,484,370 votes counted throughout the country by 15:45 hours Saturday, Rafsanjani and Karroubi have gained the highest number of votes.

 * The following table shows the latest vote count announced by the elections headquarters of the Interior Ministry Saturday afternoon:
 * 1. Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani 5,474,885
 * 2. Mehdi Karroubi 4,924,731
 * 3. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad 4,810,079
 * 4. Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf 3,766,444
 * 5. Mostafa Moin 3,635,990
 * 6. Ali Larijani 1,609,029
 * 7. Mohsen Mehralizadeh 1,185,797

http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-234/0506180849181707.htm cil
 * Based on unofficial figures, announced by the Elections Headquarters at Interior Ministry, out of about 26,850,000 votes counted throughout the country thus far on Saturday, Rafsanjani and Ahmadinejad have gained the highest number of votes.

 * This is newsworthy. I don't see a problem with posting it to the actual article. NGerda 02:03, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * The following table shows the latest vote count announced by the elections headquarters of the Interior Ministry Saturday afternoon:
 * 1. Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani 6,010,829
 * 2. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad 5,555,458
 * 3. Mehdi Karroubi 5,039,431
 * 4. Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf 4,009,620
 * 5. Mostafa Moin 3,949,240
 * 6. Ali Larijani 1,715,190
 * 7. Mohsen Mehralizadeh 1,269,793

Someone should probably number crunch these, but from a rough estimate it could just be an error in the total in the 2nd case, e.g. 27,850,000 instead of 26,850,000. Boud 02:00, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Iranian presidential election, 2005 It's way better than we happy few could hope to accomplish here. I lifted that table from them. I'm going to ask some of the Wikipedia contributors if they'll volunteer to help out with the news here until after the run-off next week. And if they can get us some new photos --- I'm so sick of seeing that Majlis photo in every single article! I guarantee you someone could create an article entitled "New Persian restaurant opens in Manhattan" and that picture would find its way into it. We really need to expand our stock of file photos ;)


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Welcome new user! A small number of Wikinews wishes to welcome you with Karl Marx's words of wisdom:

Oh Sparton Dogge: More fell then Anguish, Hunger, or the Sea: Looke on the Tragicke Loading of this bed: This is thy worke: The Obiect poysons Sight, Let it be hid. Gratiano, keepe the house, And seize vpon the Fortunes of the Moore, For they succeede on you. To you, Lord Gouernor, Remaines the Censure of this hellish villaine: The Time, the Place, the Torture, oh inforce it: My selfe will straight aboord, and to the State, This heauie Act, with heauie heart relate.

Why don't you memorize this and impress your friends? Come, my friends, 'Tis not to late to seek a newer world. Push off, and sitting well in order smite The sounding furrows; for my purpose holds To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths Of all the western stars, until I die. It may be that the gulfs will wash us down; It may be we shall touch the Happy Isles, And see the great Achilles, whom we knew. Though much is taken, much abides; and though We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.

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International Whaling Commission adjourns for private talks

June 21, 2005

A meeting of the in the South Korean city of  has adjourned for private talks with commissioners. The commission had been about to vote on a Japanese plan to increase its catch and to start hunting.

Australia attempted to stop the adjournment accusing Japan of trying to stall the vote.

Nauru, The Gambia, and Togo applied to join the commission last week, but have no voting rights until their membership payments are cleared, which could happen any time during the IWC meeting. The three countries are expected to follow Japan's pro-whaling line.

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 * Killen convicted of manslaughter for 1964 civil rights workers murders
 * Lebanese politician George Hawi assassinated as historic elections end
 * Priest charged in exorcism death
 * Iraq's Justice Minister accuses U.S. of having "lots of secrets they want to hide"
 * International Whaling Commission adjourns for private talks

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Iraq's Justice Minister accuses U.S. of having "lots of secrets they want to hide"

June 21, 2005

In an exclusive interview with the Associated Press, Abdel Hussein Shandal, Iraq's Justice Minister, said, "it seems there are lots of secrets they [U.S. government] want to hide."

Shandal accused the U.S. of concealing information about Saddam Hussein and of trying to delay Iraqi interrogations of Hussein. The Iraqi government had said that Saddam's trial would be held within two months, but they are now saying it will be before the end of 2005.

American officials have urged Iraq to be cautious about expediting a trial and have said Iraq needs to have a more established judicial system first. U.S. officials have also stated that the trial might inflame sectarian tensions and interfere with the drafting of an Iraqi constitution.


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Please use my discussion page at german wikinews. Greetz, Conny...

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 * Thank you for the invitation - but there is at this time much to do for my studies. I will watch the page. Greetings, Conny (talk) 23:33, 19 July 2008 (UTC).

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Dresden scientists develop new therapy for patients with ALS using magnetic fields
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Co-drivers in Germany are also not allowed to use speed camera app
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Priest charged in exorcism death

June 21, 2005

A Romanian priest and four nuns have been charged in the death of a reportedly schizophrenic nun who was crucified in an exorcism. The novice, Maricica Irina Cornici, of Holy Trinity convent in northeast Romania, died last week after spending three days gagged and chained to a cross without food or water in the church’s cellar.

The 23-year-old nun was found with a towel stuffed into her mouth and had been left in the cold room while the priest delivered prayers to drive out evil spirits. An initial autopsy revealed the nun died from dehydration, exhaustion and lack of oxygen. Prosecutors are awaiting the results of a second autopsy, which is being carried out because of a suspicion of foul play.

The priest, Daniel Petru Corogeanu, and four nuns have been charged with imprisonment leading to death. They could face up to 20 years in prison if found guilty. Father Daniel told local news that he was trying to "take the devil out of her". When asked whether the nun was in need of medical help instead of an exorcism, he replied, "You can't take the devil out of people with pills."

Ms. Cornici, who grew up in an orphanage, is said to have entered the remote convent three months earlier. There has been speculation by the Romanian media that Ms. Cornici's schizophrenic behaviour may have caused her fellow nuns and the priest to believe she was possessed by the devil.

The Orthodox Church has condemned the incident and suspended Father Daniel, who has refused to stop work at the Holy Trinity monastery. Riot police had to intervene when scuffles broke out as nuns yelled at a vicar who came to suspend Father Daniel on Sunday.

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Lebanese politician George Hawi assassinated as historic elections end

June 21, 2005

A veteran Lebanese politician, George Hawi, was assassinated today in Beirut. Hawi's death came as a grim punctuation mark to the final round of parliamentary elections in Lebanon, the first since Syrian occupation ended earlier this year. Hawi was formerly the secretary of the Lebanese Communist Party. He had long been a Syrian ally, but recently became a critic of Syrian influence in the country.

George Hawi's assassination came on the heels of the conclusion of the last round of parliamentary elections in Lebanon, which saw a coalition of opposition candidates led by Saad Hariri, son of former Prime Minister of Lebanon Rafik Hariri, capture a majority of seats.

Hawi is the third prominent anti-Syrian figure to be assassinated in Lebanon, and the second this month. Rafiq Hariri was assassinated on February 14th; his death led to international pressure for Syria to end its occupation of the country, which it did. More recently, journalist Samir Kassir was killed on June 2nd. Hawi's stepson, Rafi Madoyan, said in a statement, "Those who killed him are the same as those who killed Rafiq Hariri and Samir Kassir, it’s the security regime that is in power." United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice expressed similar sentiments, accusing Syria of contributing to instability in Lebanon.

In denying the "security regime" allegations, President Emile Lahoud denounced the murder and promised to investigate. "With regard to the persistent suggestion that the president is linked to the so-called security state, everyone knows that he does not directly supervise the security agencies," the presidency said in a statement. "Is it a coincidence that this crime happens today, a few hours after the end of parliamentary elections which the world saw take place democratically?"


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Killen convicted of manslaughter for 1964 civil rights workers murders

June 21, 2005

Edward Killen, an 80-year old former Ku Klux Klan member, was convicted of three counts of manslaughter today for the murder of three civil rights workers exactly 41 years ago this very day.

Michael Schwerner, 24, Mr Chaney, 21, and Andy Goodman, 20, were killed in 1964. Killen was originally a suspect and was rearrested when new evidence emerged.

Killen now faces twenty years in jail. He was cleared of carrying out the murder, but convicted of recruiting a gang of Klansmen and police, who abducted the three men, shot them and beat them to death before burying them in a dam.


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Commemoration of Srebrenica massacre to be held on July 11

June 22, 2005

Commemoration of the Srebrenica massacre will be held on July 11, when newly identified bodies will be buried. In 1995, Serbian forces, according to International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY), massacred around 7500 Bosnian Muslims.

A controversy arose after mothers of murdered Muslims in Srebrenica made a statement saying that the Serbian President, Boris Tadić, is not welcome in Srebrenica: "Tadić coming to Srebrenica is a planned provocation of the ones who will bury their families on July 11." The Serbian President will still attend the ceremony.

Abdurahman Malkić, the president of the Srebrenica municipality, guaranteed safety to Tadić and all other officials. Other attendees include Theodor Meron, the president of ICTY.

So far, 2,032 bodies have been identified. It is expected that by July 11 another 550 bodies will be identified and ready for burial.

Reactions in Serbia
Recent showing of a video which depicts six Bosnian Muslims from Srebrenica being killed by Serbian forces has steered a lot of controversy in Serbia. Bojan Pajtić, the president of the executive board of the northern Serbian province, Vojvodina, agreed to officially support an initiative of the Independent Journalists' Association of Vojvodina to declare July 11th a Memorial Day in Serbia and Montenegro.

An agency for marketing research, Faktor Plus, published a study on Serbian citizens' reaction on the video. 30.2% of subjects said that they feel sorrow for victims. 43.2% feel anger towards executors of the massacre. 16.3% felt guilt, while one percent was "satisfied" with the video.

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 * Myron Cope, Pittsburgh Steelers color commentator, retires after a 35 year career
 * Tennessee Governor signs budget bill
 * Smashing Pumpkins may reunite
 * Commemoration of Srebrenica massacre to be held on July 11

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Talk:Commemoration of Srebrenica massacre to be held on July 11

Um, the Srebenica massacore happened in July. Is this a mis-translation? I'm going to change the whole thing to "July 11", in about 10 minutes, unless someone tells me that I'm mistaken. - Borofkin 05:55, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I already did. It was just a mistake I made. Of course it's July 11 (or it would not have been news at all). I mix up months sometimes :) --Dcabrilo 06:02, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

shouldn't it be a remmembrance of? no eno commemorates a massacre.
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Smashing Pumpkins may reunite

June 22, 2005 On the same day he released his debut solo album, former Smashing Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan announced, "I want my band back, and my songs, and my dreams." Those words appeared in a full-page ad that ran in Tuesday's edition of the Chicago Tribune under the title, A Message to Chicago From Billy Corgan. The alternative-rock icon also wrote, "For a year now I have walked around with a secret, a secret I chose to keep. But now I want you to be among the first to know that I have made plans to renew and revive The Smashing Pumpkins."

The group, which included guitarist James Iha, drummer Jimmy Chamberlin, and bassists D'Arcy Wretzky and Melissa Auf der Maur, last played together in 2000. On February 17, 2004, Corgan posted a bitter message on his personal blog calling Wretzky a "mean spirited drug addict" and blaming Iha for the breakup.

It was not clear if Corgan's former band members knew of his plans, or who would be involved with the new group. No other details on the plans were forthcoming from the singer, who lives in the Chicago area.

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The Wikipedia link for Edward Killen is wrong. It's not the same Edward Killen.
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Talk:Lebanese politician George Hawi assassinated as historic elections end

This story is inherently POV as it is impossible in the Lebanese political environment to tell with accuracy who is on whose side.Especially when people like the victim switch sides. So its important to just report the facts rather than repeat information from the sources or politicians which may or may not be factual. The title probably should be changed to take out "anti-Syrian" unless we are going to allow "anti-American" labels in titles as well(e.g. "anti-American cleric killed in Baghdad") which we could be running a story about every week or so. Paulrevere2005 16:49, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Whoops, made a bit of a mess there. My mistake; I moved the article before reading the Talk page, then read it and agreed, but accidentally moved the Talk rather than the article. So...anyway, I took out "anti-Syrian," as per the point made above, and added the bit about the elections to give some context. I used "historic" because they're the first elections without Syrian occupation in 30-some years. --Slowking Man 20:52, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)


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Myron Cope, Pittsburgh Steelers color commentator, retires after a 35 year career

June 22, 2005 Myron Cope, a locally famous sports announcer for the Pittsburgh Steelers, a National Football League team, has announced his retirement from the booth, effective immediately. Cope had a 35 year career announcing Steelers games with his familiar scratchy voice, often punctuated with unique Yiddish expressions, such as "Feh" and "Yoi", which brought delight to fans.


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Jack Kilby, Nobel laureate and inventor of integrated circuit, dies at 81

June 23, 2005

Winner of the Nobel Prize for Physics in 2000 for his work on developing the integrated circuit, Jack Kilby died after battling cancer on Monday, June 20, 2005, in Dallas at the age of 81. After years of claims, Kilby agreed to share credit for the invention with Robert Noyce, the co-founder of chip maker Intel.

His contribution to the pioneering breakthrough of the integrated circuit was made by Kilby during his employment with Texas Instruments (TI) in 1958. He also is credited with co-inventing the handheld calculator which made TI the leader in early consumer electronics development. The integrated circuit paved the way in the development of the microchip used today in computers, DVD players, interactive video games and cell phones.

Kilby's work includes the awarding of 60 patents. It was said of him in a statement by TI chairman Tom Engihous that, "In my opinion, there are only a handful of people whose works have truly transformed the world and the way we live in it — Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, the Wright Brothers and Jack Kilby."

In his first year working with TI, Kilby's work on what became the forerunner to the microchip was an invention he fabricated by using a sliver of germanium on a glass slide. This invention was the predecessor to the semiconductor that ultimately replaced vacuum tubes and switching wires then in use as the transistor devices. The invention also led to solid state electronics able to withstand more shock and impact in handling.

Kilby is recognised for his 'seminal thought' on the integrated circuit by being awarded the Robert N. Noyce Award in 1995, the Semiconductor Industry Association's highest honor. He is survived by two daughters and five grandchildren.


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U.S. Senator Biden may run for Presidency

June 24, 2005 Although the next U.S. presidential election is more than three years away, U.S. senator Joseph Biden (Democrat – Delaware) has already announced his intentions of running. Although he originally said in December 2004 that he would wait two years to make a decision, he told Face The Nation on Sunday that he will spend this year trying to "explore his support", adding, "[I'm going to take my] game on the road, letting people know what I think." He also told the CBS news show that he will make his decision as to whether or not to pursue the party's nomination towards the end of this year.

Should he decide to pursue the nomination, Biden may be vying for the nomination alongside several others, including former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, 2004 Democratic candidate John Kerry, and Indiana senator Evan Bayh.

Described by Ron Williams in an opinion piece as, "the walking definition of a professional politician," Biden has been vocal in his opposition to the war in Iraq. He is a top-ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee where he receives press coverage for his criticism of the U.S. administration's handling of the war.

Biden ran an unsuccessful bid for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1988. Political analysts generally believe that Biden's early announcement for the presidency is good strategy when the hopeful presidential field includes other Democratic heavy weights.


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Wikinews:Straw polls

Straw polls are used by wiki communities to get an idea of what the consensus of the community is on an issue and act based on that democratic process.

Each poll may have its own requirements for voting, often being registrated for a certain time or having a minimum number of edits. All polls require logged-in users. Please read individual polls before voting.

If you start a poll, don't forget to edit the Newsroom polls template!

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Wikinews:Automated article listing poll

Regarding
We've been getting complaints that it's difficult to move an article from Developing stories to Latest news and fix a link if an article's name is changed. In response to that, NGerda has implemented a system where all that a user need to do to have an article display in either Developing stories or Latest news, is take advantage of the tag (already widely implemented), and have either  or  at the bottom of the page. This is achieved through a special MediaWiki feature called DynamicPageList. In addition, if someone changes the title of an article, the list is automatically updated. Due to controversy over this issue, this has been disabled, so this is an outline of the issues that need to be addressed. A preview of the system is available at Main Page/Temp (notice Developing stories and Latest news).

Makes it hard to follow what's new.

 * In each day's list, articles with the most recent changes show up highest within each day's list.
 * Some see that as an advantage, easily highlighting recently updated articles.

Cannot highlight Original Reporting.

 * The list is automatic, therefore you cannot add text next to an article link.
 * Original reporting can easily be highlighted with a right-side table.

Problems with caching.

 * DynamicPageLists take a few seconds to update themselves when a new article is created or an article's name has changed.
 * To view the latest version of Developing stories and Latest news on the Main Page, you have to do a Cache Refresh anyways.

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User talk:68.32.193.91

Welcome
68.32.193.91, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! → CGorman (Talk)  21:54, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
 * Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced
 * Introduction - overview of the site
 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
 * Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
 * Style guide - how articles should look before publishing
 * Contents - the contents page.
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * Audio Wikinews could always use more contributors
 * And of course, stories need writing!

User:Lyellin
This IP is typically User Lyellin. Lyellin 02:38, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

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