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The actual article shows up as being empty, but the edit page has the whole article ready and there. I don't know what the problem is. Dorian Gray 03:12, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Whoop, there it is. Damn my newbishness ~_~. Dorian Gray 03:13, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Glad you figured it out. Looks good, but a map of India showing the province in question would be nice.  StuRat 04:41, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I found one at Commons that isn't quite the thing but fits well enoguh. Dorian Gray 04:48, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Bah, I'm not good enough for playing with images yet ~_~. Dorian Gray 04:55, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Ok, I added a pic for you. Edit it and take a look at the format I used. StuRat 08:04, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Ah, I see. Also, that was the same image I had planned to use. Dorian Gray 09:28, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, "great minds think alike". Unfortunately, so do the feeble-minded, LOL. StuRat 15:18, 4 September 2005 (UTC)


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Chief Justice of the United States, William H Rehnquist, dies at age 80

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United States  has died of complications from. He was 80. Rehnquist died surrounded by friends and family in his, home.

"President Bush and are deeply saddened by the news," said White House counselor Dan Bartlett. "It's a tremendous loss for our nation."

Rehnquist's death creates a second opening in the United States Supreme Court. The first vacancy occurred when  announced her retirement on July 1, 2005, though O'Connor will remain in office until her successor has been appointed. Hearings for nominee John G. Roberts, Jr. are set to begin on Tuesday, September 6, 2005.

Rehnquist first joined the Supreme Court, the highest court in the U.S., as an Associate Justice in 1972. He was elevated to the leading position of Chief Justice in 1986 and presided over the court for the next 19 years.

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Controversy over whether New Orleans Mayor failed to follow hurricane plan

September 4, 2005

New Orleans' Mayor Ray Nagin is facing criticism over the evacuation of citizens before Hurricane Katrina struck.

In the days leading up to Hurricane Katrina, hundreds of buses were sitting in bus yards, some less than a mile from the Superdome. Louisiana Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco commented, "The buses could have saved an estimated 20,000 people if they had been used for emergency evacuations which President Bush had declared two days before Katrina hit.", however the evacuation was ordered by Mayor Nagin, President Bush having no direct authority to order evacuations. Thursday, after the storm, Blanco by executive order used school buses for evacuation.

The 2000 edition of the southeast Louisiana evacuation plan on page 13, paragraph 5 states:
 * 5. The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating.

There were however alternative emergency plans, including ones held by state Homeland Security offices, and it is unclear which one was being operated to.

The Superdome had been opened shortly before the storm as a shelter of last resort for those who had not evacuated. As FEMA observed at that time: "Most residents have evacuated the city and those left behind do not have transportation or have special needs." Roughly 150,000 people were not evacuated from the city. During the Hurricane Ivan evacuation 600,000 people failed to evacute the city.

According to WWLTV, during a news conference on Sunday before the hurricane struck, Mayor Nagin claimed he "could and would commandeer any property or vehicle it deemed necessary to provide safe shelter or transport for those in need". However photos circulated appear to show unused school and privately owned busses left stranded in flood waters.

It is unclear whether Mayor Nagin knew these particular buses existed, since the Orleans Parish School Board is not under his jurisdiction and his office would not normally know the location of OPSB bus yards or be able to contact the drivers of those buses to place them into service. Normally it is the job of FEMA to coordinate between the various local jurisdictions such as the OPSB and the City of New Orleans in this case. That is, under the rules of prior hurricane responses, FEMA would ask all local jurisdictions for a list of resources under their control. Then FEMA would have taken a request from Nagin for buses, relayed it to the Orleans Parish School Board or other local jurisdictions which had buses, and at that point the OPSB would have provided the buses to Nagin. That coordination did not happen here, but it is unclear whether Nagin ever made such a request prior to the hurricane and after the hurricane they were underwater and useless.

However, if he had known about them, the declaration of a state of emergency on August 26 gave him the right under Louisiana law to commandeer them for the duration of the emergency. The failure to issue a timely evacuation order in effect made it physically impossible to evacuate the nursing homes, hospitals, and those without automobiles.

In a radio interview on WWL-AM shortly after the hurricane, Mayor Nagin said, " I need 500 buses, man. We ain't talking about -- you know, one of the briefings we had, they were talking about getting public school bus drivers to come down here and bus people out here. I'm like, "You got to be kidding me. This is a national disaster. Get every doggone Greyhound bus line in the country and get their asses moving to New Orleans." "


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If there's no text here, my sig appears red and ugly. This is not acceptable. --Ardonik.talk(*) 04:29, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

photo op story
Got disgusted with my time being wasted on that issue. Whatever happens to the Delete tag, I don't care and do respect your removing it. I was unappropriate, but after all the crap I was getting desperate<!> -Edbrown05 23:28, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Replied on your talk page. --Ardonik.talk(*) 00:07, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

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He has not emailed me, but I will not encourage him further. :) - Nyarlathotep 15:44, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you. --Ardonik.talk(*) 15:45, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Interdictor article note
Hello, this is selcouth from freenode. You were looking for my full name? It's Josh Barfield. Also I found the pictures of the interdictor team. http://tampabusiness.com/directnic/09028/index31.html

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If you have an opportunity, could you point me toward your notes on the Interdictor article. - Amgine/talk 04:32, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Controversy over whether New Orleans Mayor failed to follow hurricane plan

Stop being disingenuous
Who said 'local disgrace'? If you put a quote in the headline, cite it IMMEDIATELY in the opening para.

 * OK, I changed the title to be very specific. Now there's a citation showing the specific paragraph from the evacuation plan which says to use city and school buses to help get the poor who are unable to get out of town on their own before a disaster strikes. Is it POV to point to the Mayor's failure to follow the published disaster plan, as published by the State of Lousiana? - Busted 05:17, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * TY. Busted, I entirely sympathise here. Stick to presenting facts and minimal quotes which highlight them and I'm glad to see you involved here. But I think, if you are really intellectually honest, you'll agree that the intial attempt at this article was more of a reaction to the existing articles. There is no need to take the same tack that the pseudo-leftists have been employing. It's an uphill battle when it shouldn't be a battle at all.

 * So can we publish this article now?

 * Is it POV to let the public know about this lack of follow through by the Mayor? The Mayor is probably too busy to take my call to explain his side of the story at the moment, but as long as Wikinews is slinging mud at the Federal Government with its "National Disgrace" editorial, without waiting to see what caused the delays, then it's only fair that Wikinews makes room for an article to highlight the failings of the local officials as well, starting with Mayor Nagin.

 * If this article cannot be published, then please "unpublish" the "National Disgrace" editorial as well. - Busted 05:32, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * After thinking about this issue some more, and since no one is following up, rather than dispute the "National Disgrace" editorial (which would cause it to be "censored", I will go ahead and republish this article, because I don't believe in censorship. It's better to let the readers have access to both articles and let them decide for themselves. - Busted 05:54, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * No, I think that resolving your own "disputed" state is inappropriate. If there is support for your article, someone else will change its status. Furthermore, your point of view shines through here still. People are smart enough to draw their own conclusions from the article, just as you did from the others. I will edit the article to remove your commentary, but I do this without malice. The article will be stronger and, I feel, more convincing, without that element. - pvh 23:47, 4 September 2005(PST)

 * As long as the pictures stay. They're worth a thousand words each! - Busted 06:58, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Things this article needs before publication

 * Active lead : Wikinews does not report what commentators are wondering. This is a strong story, don't hide behind what other people are asking. "Mayor Ray Nagin didn't use hundreds of buses that were available before Hurricane Katrina to evacuate citizens who were too poor to make their way out of the city." - says who didn't do what, but needs where, when, why.

 * See the National Disgrace story. The whole basis of that story is based upon "commentators" wondering what's up with the Federal response to this disaster. I have news for you. An equal number are wondering what's up with the lack of local execution of the disaster plan that was in place since 2000.

 * As for your other points, "Where" is obviously in New Orleans. The pictures show the specific locations (two bus yards, one of which is less than a mile from the Superdome.) As for the "when", the first sentence makes it clear that Mayor Nagin didn't use the buses before Katrina hit. I can't read Mayor Nagin's mind, so I don't "why".

 * Your improvements are bringing the article along! It's always best to state, in the text of the article, where something is happening - even if it is utterly obvious from the title or the images. The reason is the article might be picked up by another site but with a different title, and often people do not get images. This could be worked in with just "New Orleans Mayor..."

 * The when should be made more clear, perhaps something like "In the early days after Hurricane Katrina, before the floodwaters made it impossible..."

 * Why is something you can sometimes skip in an article. But in this case, I'm sure there are people who have expressed an opinion as to why the Mayor might have failed to follow through. You might see if you can find someone you can quote? - Amgine/talk 06:57, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * OK, I added the location, and better established the time period. As for the "why", I'm not sure I can find any commentators who are not making purely inflammatory or derogatory statements. Adding a comment from some right wing hate site that he's "a stupid democrat" won't improve the article at all, so what kind of comment are you looking for? The only defense for Mayor Nagin I have been able to find is some anonymous postings on a left wing web site called Fark, which claim that he didn't have the authority to use those buses. But is that really a reliable source of commentary? I stand by the State of Louisiana disaster plan, and Mayor Nagin's own comments as quoted in the article, that he did have the authority, and simply failed to follow through. I'm open to other angles though. - Busted 07:07, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Okay, looks like you've made good faith efforts. Try to drop a note on User talk:NGerda's page and ask if he thinks you've addressed his NPOV concerns. I didn't put that on the article, so I'm not sure what his specific issues were. - Amgine/talk 07:13, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I already did so, and in response, NGerda suggested a new title, "Controversy over whether New Orleans Mayor failed to follow hurricane plan". He alluded to other concerns, but since he has no other specific suggestions to improve the article, I will go ahead and rename the article per NGerda's wishes and leave a second message with NGerda giving him another chance to participate. - Busted 07:17, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * No redlinks

 * Fixed

 * Copyediting : Each paragraph needs to express a single complete thought or topic.

 * I think there was just one graf with some extraneous text.

 * Is it better now? What other objections do you (or anyone else) have? - Busted 06:34, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Can you perhaps cut down the size of the big picture to match that of the small one? It is trivial to think of some NPOVing suggestions, like size of evacuation information, but they would all require more research, and there is a limit to how much work you should ask out of someone. One can always imagine a piece of data to NPOV an article, but data is not always available. Anyway, sometimes you just try to make it a better article in other ways, like by having a picture or more thoroughly citing the various opinions out there. In keeping with my "NPOV is not everything" philosophy, I would incurage you to to move the "I need 500 busses man" comment up. It is a great part of the stories irony / amusement / interest, and just plain makes the article more fun to read. But I can't say if the NPOV hardliners will let you do this. - Nyarlathotep 14:25, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Feasibility Issue
I haven't edited a Wikinews article before, but I would think that the article could use perspective on the state of New Orleans at the time a federal emergency was declared. Although the evacuation plan called for using buses, considering the numerous articles on the web that detail the amount of time it took to get out of New Orleans that Saturday and Sunday, it would appear that the point is moot (i.e. if Nagin had requested the buses, there would not have been enough time to mobilize the buses, have the evacuees assemble, pick up the evacuees, and transport them out of town before the hurricane hit. It would appear that attempting such an exercise would have caused an even greater loss of life than we are currently seeing, as the evacuees would be in the relatively unsafe buses during a hurricane, rather than in safer buildings.)

 * Excellent suggestion, make the change if you like.
 * As such, I wonder if this is all a Rovian deflection of criticism away from the Bush administration. Seeing as FEMA published in early 2001 that the three largest disaster risks to the US were a terrorist attack on New York, a Hurricane in New Orleans, and an Earthquake in San Francisco. |1. So, when FEMA faced was rolled into the department of homeland security and faced massive budget cuts regarding hurricane prepardness in favour of terrorism prepardness eyebrows should and do raise. Suddenly people are all out to protect these decisions and want to attack the Mayor of New Orleans? It simply reminds me of Rove's previous work.

 * "Rovian deflection"? How pathetic that you think Mayor Nagin's failure to act, or my submission of an article to reveal his failure, was somehow orchestrated by the President's Deputy Chief of Staff. Your ego is way out of control if you think secret agents working for Karl Rove are now submitting articles on Wikinews. What's next? Are you going to accuse Mayor Nagin of being an agent of Karl Rove? How sad.

 * Getting back to reality, city and school buses were available in plenty of time for at least a single one-way trip to get thousands of people out of harm's way. Even if there were massive traffic jams, two days was enough time for at least one pickup. Your silly excuse that the buses would have been more dangerous than staying put is obviously contradicted by the facts on the ground. There are no credible reports of people who were in the process of evacuating ending up stuck in traffic right up through the hurricane. Care to provide a source for that "excuse"? While we're waiting for you to respond with sources for your arm waving, these pictures speak for themselves.

 * By the way, your paranoia about Rove being behind these pictures is an amusing reminder of just how nuts the radical left has become in America. The latest polls show that most folks aren't buying the partisan spin about Bush being primarily to blame, although most fault both the local and Federal governments for not being adequately prepared.

 * Your mindless paranoia does your cause more harm than good. I didn't vote for either candidate in the last election because of this kind of nonsense. Start making sense and I'll turn out next time. - Busted 02:02, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Busted, sometimes pictures can be misleading if you don’t understand the context behind them.

Carrying out an evacuation of a large city requires a massive commitment of logistics, human resources, and infrastructure. It’s not just a matter of deploying buses — unless you are in a science fiction movie, buses don’t drive themselves. You need trained drivers (you could use volunteers, but that creates the risk of major traffic accidents, which would disrupt contraflow), you must be able to organize residents into pickup points and keep those areas safe and well-organized, you need to organize transportation routes to go to places safely out of the range of the hurricane, you need to provide places on the route for riders to get water and go to the bathroom, you need personnel to accompany buses in order to respond to medical emergencies, etc.

New Orleans is a city that (1) has tremendously concentrated poverty and (2)is in dire fiscal straits. Just to give one example, the city could only afford to maintain a police force of 1600 people in a city the size of 450,000 people. Indeed, New Orleans officials made clear that they lacked the capabilities to organize a mass evacucation for those 100,000 residents without the means to leave New Orleans by themselves.

FEMA was well aware of the fact that New Orleans could not evacuate huge numbers of residents. Let me excerpt the opening sentences from the now-infamous article by Bruce Nolan in the 7/24/2005 edition of the New Orleans Times-Picayune:

“City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give the poorest of New Orleans’ poor a historically blunt message: In the event of a major hurricane, you’re on your own. In scripted appearances being recorded now, officials such as Mayor Ray Nagin, local Red Cross Executive Director Kay Wilkins and City Council President Oliver Thomas drive home the word that the city does not have the resources to move out of harm’s way an estimated 134,000 people without transportation.”

What city officials did in preparation before the hurricane was to concentrate their very limited resources on improving contraflow so that cars could get out, retrofitting the Superdome so it could survive a hurrricane, and using the busdrivers it had to transport people to the Superdome.

You can disagree with the choices the Mayor made regarding the evacuation (as well as with plenty of his other decisions) but you should at least recognize the terrible trade-offs he faced.

Defense of Nagin
Archpundit, a St.Louis-based blogger and a graduate student in political science, has written a series of posts defending New Orleans' preparation for the hurricane. He has a long post at Daily Kos discussing city, state, and federal preparedness for a hurricane in light of what was learned from Hurricane Ivan, making some of the same points I made above.

He also has several posts on his own blog:  .

When I get a chance, I would like to add some of these points into the article.
 * Is it appropriate to add new content to an article which was published 6 days ago?

 * No, and it is also not very appropriate to add items from blogs unless facts are proven - so, include it if you want in a new article, but check it's factual accuracy first. --Mrmiscellanious 21:43, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

There was NO "set in stone" evacuation plan. That is a lie to say that there was. It is a gross distortion of the available facts to say "The failure to issue a timely evacuation order in effect made it physically impossible to evacuate the nursing homes, hospitals, and those without automobiles." There was NOT a failure to issue a timely evacuation order. If you review previous evacuation orders in other areas of the US coastline, this was a timely evacuation order. In addition, Nagin ordered a voluntary evacuation order the day before he ordered the mandatory one. And finally, the Louisiana state evacuation plan calls for the southern parishes to be given time to evacuate first, moving past New Orleans, before the citizens in New Orleans clog the roads. Many residents of those parishes south of New Orleans had no levees to protect their homes. Many of their homes are just feet above sea level, and were in danger from even a close call from a major hurricane. The State plan called for there to be an understanding of their need to get out first, and that was done. Their only escape routes go right past New Orleans, and place them on the same roads that the New Orleans residents used the next day. It is an illegitimate criticism to claim that there was not a timely evacuation of the city. When one compares this to Hurricane Rita, FEMA and the Federal Government stepped in ahead of time and provided help via Army helicopters, buses from outside the area, and even C-130 Cargo jets from the US Air Force to evacuate people, because the recognition was there that no city can manage that kind of an evacuation on their own. Most people that died DID NOT DIE because they were not evacuated before the storm hit. They died because they were not evacuated soon enough AFTER the storm hit, and that burden lies squarely on the shoulders of FEMA. FEMA should have been expecting to deal with a city with wind damage from a direct hit of a Category 5 storm. In fact, New Orleans was hit with a glancing blow from a Category 4 storm. FEMA should have been expecting a city completed flooded from massive overtopping of levees due to a 25 foot storm surge. Instead, they had 24-36 hours to deal with a city that had 80% flooded because of compromised floodwalls and damaged levees. Given the potential scenario that FEMA was aware of on Saturday, FEMA should have been pre-positioning supplies from Shreveport to Dallas with food and water. They should have brought in every helicopter in the nation to within a safe distance and had them ready to deliver supplies and rescue people stranded by flooding. They should have assumed that there might be massive casualties because of wind and water-caused trauma, and so they should have given specific orders to the hospital ship in the Gulf of Mexico to come closer to the city once the storm passed to be a location for triage and treatment. The buses that were available, had they been used, had drivers been available and willing to drive, had security personnel and medical personnel been available to staff those buses and the gathering points, and had the logistics been planned to direct those busloads of evacuees to appropriate shelters along safe evacuation routes, would have only been able to take a small percentage of those left in the city out of town. Imagine that those waiting at the gathering points realized that only some of them would leave - would those MOST at risk have been able to force their way to the front of the lines to get on the buses. Remember, it was the medically fragile and the weakest infants that died while waiting to be evacuated - would they have been able to get on the buses ahead of all the others? That is quite doubtful. And many died in hospitals. It was those people that needed advanced life support treatments who died in hospitals when the electricity failed and generators failed, even though they had medical personnel around them to provide the help they could. If those people could not survive in a hospital, could they have survived in a school bus? And then there were those that never left their homes or their neighborhoods that died. How would using buses have saved those people? They would not even leave their neighborhoods and chose to not move to a shelter of last resort. It is unreasonable to assume that they would have gotten on buses.

So, not only is it unlikely that using the buses would have saved many people, since there were not enough buses in the city to even remove a majority of those left in town, and those most at risk would not have gotten on many of the buses, but this argument appears to simply be a cover argument to avoid discussing the real failures in evacuating people, and that is FEMA's slow response after the storm passed.

As I said, they should have been planning this relief effort since Saturday. FEMA tells local and state disaster prepareness officials that they (the local and state officials and their citizens) should be prepared to hang on for 48-60 hours, up to a maximum of 72 hours (3 days) before receiving full-bore FEMA support. They are to hold on by their fingertips until then. The Superdome had enough meals and water for 15,000 people for 3 days, and Mayor Nagin told people that voluntarily moved to the shelter to bring their own food to last 3-4 days. 3 days from Saturday is Tuesday, and the storm had passed out of the area by then. FEMA should have been there on Tuesday and Wednesday evacuating those most at risk from hospitals and then from rooftops. During that time they should have had additional personnel separating those in the SuperDome and the Convention Center areas, allowing those that were the most in need of evacuation to leave first. FEMA should have had "triage" plans in place to evacuate the city in stages if it flooded, as they expected it would, turning into a toxic soup bowl.

There is no doubt that most of the deaths that were not caused in the storm itself were a direct result of the slow response from FEMA. New Orleans got 80-85% of their citizens out of the city, and that is a huge number compared to other evacuations of the same city and much more than most other locations get in other storm evacuations. In Hurricane Georges, the roads leading out of the city became overloaded with cars, and an evaluation of the evacuation found that the roads could not handle all those that want to leave. If there needs to be additional lanes created to provide sufficient egress from the city, then, once again, it is not a failure on the part of Nagin, but instead is a failure of the Interstate highway system capacity, controlled by the Federal Government.


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I would love to give this article the attention it deserves; and I certainly do not dispute it should be written. However, at the moment I'm involved in a vandal war, and collecting Open Proxy IPs for Wikimedia Foundation, and cannot spare the time. I will get to it, just give me a while until the vandal gets tired of wasting his stolen IPs. - Amgine/talk 05:32, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * If the article I submitted exposing the failures of local officials cannot be published until you get the time to help edit it, then please "unpublish" the "National Disgrace" editorial, as it is unfair to only allow one side of the story to be presented on the front page. - Busted 05:37, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Okay, things seem to have calmed down for the moment. I just noticed New Orlean's Mayor failed to follow hurricane plan is one of our lead articles; I need to check this out. - Amgine/talk 06:14, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Well, after thinking about it, disputing the "National Disgrace" article is not the right way to go. It seems that publishing this article now that it's been improved is a better idea, because I don't believe in censorship. Perhaps the best compromise is to give the readers both a national and a local angle in separate "disgrace" stories, so they can decide for themselves who is most to blame? I'll be interested to hear any more specific ideas you have to make the article less POV. - Busted 06:20, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree; there should be two articles since, it seems, there were failures at both the local and the national levels. Actually, there should probably be dozens more, since mistakes were probably made at many levels. One thing to keep in mind when writing, however, is a reporter does not interpret the facts; we just lay them out for people to make their own conclusions. We can quote people who have made judgements, but Wikinews itself does not make those judgements. - Amgine/talk 06:40, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Amgine, I responded to your suggestions in my latest edits to the article and also replied on the article talk page. - Busted 06:42, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

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In the Bus yard image you say you don't know how to make a URL clickable. To get the URL from that map, put the cursor over the correct square and right-click. A menu should pop up with an option similar to "Copy link location", which will save the image's URL. You then can Paste into the place you want the URL to be placed. In Wikinews, you can create an external link by [surrounding it with brackets] (I told Wikinews to make those brackets visible instead of making a link). However, in photo credits it is best to just paste the image URL as text so it is visible as part of the credits; the software will automatically make it a clickable link. (SEWilco 19:33, 4 September 2005 (UTC))

 * OK, done. I updated the credits to note that the image in question is a crop and rotate from the NOAA website at: :http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/storms/katrina/24426569.jpg

 * Thanks for following up. - Busted 22:01, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

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Replied to your comment at User_talk:Christopherlin. --Christopherlin 21:27, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Also in the meantime, could you please help with the alpha->state sorting? Unsorted list I've made it through K. Thanks. --Christopherlin 21:30, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I'll get on it as soon as I finish the cleanup pass I'm doing right now.--Amvhoward 21:37, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks! --Christopherlin 21:53, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

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Second Paris fire kills 16 in 18-story building

September 5, 2005

The death toll has risen to 16 confirmed dead and an unconfirmed number of people are injured in another fire south of Paris, France. Investigators say the fire was caused by arson. 4 people have arrested, 3 are teenage girls (18 to 16 years old).

The fire occurred early Sunday morning in an apartment building in the southern suburb of l'Haÿ-les-Roses.

It is known that 13 people were taken to hospital with injuries. One woman was in labor and gave birth at the scene. She was then taken to hospital with her baby.

The blaze reportedly originated in the entrance hall mailboxes. The flames were put out quickly, but people died by inhaling the fumes. The problem with the fumes seems to have been compounded by a panic movement, whereby inhabitants opened doors leading to staircases — enabling the fumes to fill some upper parts of the building.

Earlier this year there were several well-publicized deadly fires in central Paris. This fire is the fourth in five months.


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Temporary from academics_anon pages

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 * Association of Jesuit Colleges & Universities - "Each of our schools has agreed to admit Loyola students as visiting students for the fall semester, with the expectation that they would return to Loyola in the spring semester with credits earned transferable back to Loyola. Efforts would be made to fit these students into classes related to their Loyola program." '''AJCU includes Georgetown, Gonzaga, Fordham, Holy Cross, Boston College, Santa Clara, and Creighton (among others); most of these schools are also offering places to other Gulf students.

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Talk:Bomb scare closes main Edinburgh thoroughfare

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One of the categories is incorrect. Instead of "Category:2005-07-07 London bombing", it should be "Category:2005-07-07 London bombing s ". —Moverton 08:27, 4 September 2005 (UTC)


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User:Christopherlin/Colleges offering admission to displaced New Orleans students/Unsorted

The following are listings without locations. They are in alphabetical order. They are reformatted from the LiveJournal posts A-M and N-Z. The remainder need more cleanup and are at Christopherlin/College temp.

 * L’Université de Montréal - "L’Université de Montréal pourra accueillir cet automne les étudiants de l’University of New Orleans, avec qui elle a une entente de coopération internationale depuis de nombreuses années. Le recteur Luc Vinet a offert à l’UNO de recevoir les étudiants qui le désirent en attendant que la situation revienne à la normale dans cette institution. « Nos pensées sont avec les victimes de cet ouragan dévastateur » a déclaré le recteur Vinet. « Nous tendons la main aux étudiants de l’UNO avec laquelle nous avons des liens de longue date. Ils trouveront à Montréal un milieu prêt à les accueillir et à faciliter leur intégration. » Les étudiants de l’UNO qui désirent venir étudier à l’Université de Montréal devront faire rapidement une demande d’admission. La date limite des choix et abandons de cours est le 13 septembre prochain. Des chambres aux résidences seront réservées à leur intention et la maison des étudiants internationaux mettra tout en œuvre afin de les accueillir et de les soutenir dans leurs démarches auprès des autorités administratives." (needs translation)
 * This is already loaded on the main page; I left it untranslated because L’Université de Montréal is a francophone school, and they make no mention of language accomodations. Presumably the exchange program they already had in place with the University of New Orleans already has a mechanism in place to cover that contingency, in which case eligible students should already more or less know about it; at any rate, any student who can't read the above text is unlikely to survive the semester.--Amvhoward 02:02, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Simon's Rock College of Bard - "Simon's Rock College of Bard is offering an emergency admission program for eleventh and twelfth grade students affected by Hurricane Katrina. Admitted students may enroll on a semester-by-semester basis for the remainder of this academic year. Interested students should submit the emergency application as soon as possible and applications will be reviewed immediately. Financial assistance for tuition, room, board, and transportation costs is available and will be awarded on a case-by-case basis. Students will receive support in adjusting to campus life and in catching up on missed coursework...For more information, call: 800-235-7186 or 413-528-7312, or e-mail the Office of Admission."
 * I'm not entirely certain that this falls within our scope. I'll spend some time on the webpage after I've got the rest of this in order.--Amvhoward 02:31, 5 September 2005 (UTC)


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User talk:217.42.28.71

Don't do that! You may be blocked. Dan100 (Talk) 11:38, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:4.246.93.240

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Israelis, Pakistanis watch and wait as ties develop

September 4, 2005

Since last Thursday’s surprise meeting between Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom and Pakistani Foreign Minister Khursheed Kasuri in Istanbul, Turkey, both the governments of Israel and Pakistan at various times played up and played down the impression that full diplomatic relations, while not on the immediate horizon, were certainly on their way to development.

Officials at the Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem stated that there was cautious optimism following the meeting and officials in Islamabad reiterated that any diplomatic relations with Israel were contingent on the reaching of a settlement to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with further Israeli withdrawals from disputed territory captured by Israel in the 1967 Six-Day War.

Pakistani officials, speaking on behalf of President Pervez Musharraf, have noted that Pakistan has no formal dispute with Israel and that Pakistan’s relations with the Arab world would not necessarily deteriorate should Israel-Pakistan ties develop, citing the example that the Arab world has not given Pakistan much support in the country’s dispute with India over the region of Kashmir.

Observers note that it is in Pakistan’s interest to develop formal ties with Israel in order to improve the Pakistan’s image in Washington as well as to counter-balance Israel’s strong diplomatic and defense ties with Pakistan’s neighbor India. For its part, Israel wishes to develop and/or improve relations with Arab and Islamic countries, though Israel itself must tread carefully so as to not damage relations with New Delhi.

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PayPal freezes $20k in hurricane relief donations

September 4, 2005 Online money transfer company PayPal is reportedly blocking over $20,000 in donations from the website Something Awful, donations intended for the American Red Cross hurricane Katrina relief efforts. Rich Kyanka, founder of Something Awful, reports that the account he set up for Red Cross donations has been suspended by the eBay-owned subsidiary due to "suspicious behavior".

According to Kyanka, PayPal is requesting "proof of delivery", even though there is no item being purchased and the account was set up to accept donations. The account remains frozen. Kyanka is attempting to solve the problem by faxing various documents to PayPal in order to prove the legitimacy of the drive.

According to recent updates posted on the Something Awful website, Kyanka was requesting that refunds were issued for all donations that were sent. According to Kyanka, the account was frozen because PayPal has no link with the Red Cross.

A solution proposed by PayPal was to have all donations go to the United Way. While initially accepting offer, Kyanka reconsidered when Something Awful readers objected to having their donation sent to the United Way — partly due to the organizations troubled past. Instead of the PayPal donation setup, Kyanka has requested that readers send any donations directly to the Red Cross.

Something Awful, despite being a humor website, has a history of running donation drives for certain causes, including purchasing ballistic chest plates and body armor for a platoon in the US Army's 25th Infantry Division during the 2003 Iraq War. The Something Awful webservers are located in New Orleans where Hurricane Katrina hit.


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Hurricane Maria forms in Atlantic

September 4, 2005

Tropical storm Maria intensified and became the season's fifth hurricane on Sunday, September 4. The hurricane is currently growing stronger in the warm waters of the open.

According to MSNBC News, at 5 AM EDT the hurricane had a maximum sustained wind of 75 MPH, which barely qualifies for category 1 hurricane status, and was centered 256 miles southeast of Bermuda. Currently it is moving north-northwest and is predicted to turn northward late Sunday or early Monday. Hurricane specialist Stacy Stewart believes that should the hurricane continue on its predicted route, "Maria should remain well to the east of Bermuda and only pose a threat to shipping interests.”

This hurricane does not appear to pose a threat comparable to the current major US disaster, Hurricane Katrina, as it is expected to move soon into cooler Atlantic waters, which will sap much of its strength.

Maria is the 13th named storm of the hurricane season, far surpassing the typical 4 or 5 named storms at this time of year. The season runs from June 1 to November 30.

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French President Chirac remains hospitalized

September 6, 2005 French President Jacques Chirac continued his hospital stay Tuesday in what a government spokesperson describes as favorable conditions. Chirac was admitted on Friday to a military hospital in central Paris, where doctors called his condition a "small vascular incident" that hindered his vision.

Doctors report such a problem as he was having could range from a ruptured blood vessel to a stroke, since more than 80% of strokes are caused by blockage in an artery carrying blood to the brain. The problem reddened and bothered the eyesight of the 72-year-old Chirac.

Chirac was scheduled to meet with Gerhard Schröder in Germany Tuesday, but was forced to cancel. Anne Robert, a military physician speaking on behalf of the military health services, said the president was resting and expects to leave the hospital in a few days.

The head of the President's political party claims that nobody would stop Chirac in his quest for the presidency two years from now.

Chirac's wife was spotted leaving the Val-de-Grâce hospital where Chirac is being treated, but she refused to speak with reporters. It has been heard from French radio reports that she had just returned from a holiday in southeast France, trying to hide the fact that she was terribly concerned about her husband's current condition.

Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin reports upon spending about an hour visiting Chirac, he was in "good form." The Prime Minister also reports "he can't wait to leave," to reporters afterward visiting the French president.

Controversy has erupted in the French press about the initial secrecy surrounding this hospital visit, and whether the health bulletins published are reliable information. It is in particular suggested that the health bulletins are written by the president's staff, then signed by medical staff --- if only because French law prevents physicians from discussing the state of their patients except with these patients or their close family.


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Edited the article to reflect the latest Paypal/SA update as reported by the SomethingAwful.com website - 04.09.05 - 9:32 PST

 * I'll be sure to keep an eye out for what actually happens with the $20,000 in donation money, which to me would be a vastly more interesting story than the mere mention of controversy over the current conflict over the interim handling of the money. -Edbrown05 00:01, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Kyanka wants the money refunded by PayPal. Sounds like a solution in the works. -Edbrown05 00:16, 5 September 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:Hurricane Maria forms in Atlantic

Looks good, but had some spelling errors and was a bit wordy. A pic would also be nice. StuRat 17:43, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

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Kuwait donates US$500 million to Katrina relief efforts

September 4, 2005

On Sunday, the country of Kuwait pledged US$500 million in oil products and other aid to United States Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. It is the single largest donation given to help the victims of hurricane Katrina.

Energy Minister Sheikh Ahmad al-Fahd al-Sabah explained, "The humanitarian aid is oil products that the devastated (U.S.) states need in these circumstances, plus other humanitarian aid to lessen the devastation these three states have been subjected to."

Al Sabah also stated that "It's our duty as Kuwaitis to stand by our friends to lighten the humanitarian misery and as a payback for the many situations during which Washington helped us through the significant relations between the two friendly countries." Kuwait is in fact one of the U.S.'s strongest allies in the Middle East, due to the U.S. protection of Kuwait in 1991 during the Gulf War.

Kuwait's donation was followed by a $100 million donation from Qatar, a small, U.S. friendly peninsula jutting out into the Red Sea.

These donations were brought on as the 22 members of Arab League (based in Egypt) asked Arab countries to donate to the Katrina relief efforts, and sent their deepest condolences to the U.S.


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Brazilian Vote Buying parliamentary commission present first joint preliminary report

The Post Office and Vote Buying parliamentary commissions of investigation  unanimously approved on Thursday (1) their first  joint preliminary    report of   activities. The text was prepared by their redactors, Osmar Serraglio (PMDB) and Ibrahim Abi-Ackel (PP), from Post Office and Vote Buying commissions respectively.

The deputies cited in the report are: Carlos Rodrigues (PL-RJ), José Janene (PP-PR), Pedro Correia (PP-PE), Pedro Henry (PP-MS), Sandro Mabel (PL-GO), João Magno (PT-MG), João Paulo Cunha (PT-SP), José Borba (PMDB-PR), Josias Gomes da Silva (PT-BA), Paulo Rocha (PT-BA), Professor Luizinho (PT-SP), Romeu Queiroz (PTB-MG), Vadão Gomes (PP-SP), Vanderval Santos (PL-SP), José Mentor (PT-SP), Roberto Brant (PFL-MG), José Dirceu (PT-SP) and Roberto Jefferson (PTB-RJ).

The report indicts 18 Brazilian deputies and the former deputy Valdemar Costa Neto [who resigned on August 1]. They are accused of illegal campaign finance activities, of placing cronies in strategic positions in government enterprises and getting kickbacks from them, and of receiving cash payments in exchange for voting in line with the government in the Brazilian Congress.

The redactors called the allegation made by some parliamentarians that the resources were used to settle debts with electoral campaigns a "lame excuse". According to them it is "perfectly plausible"  that the loans taken by the businessman Marcos Valerio at the Banco Rural and the BMG for the ruling Workers' Party (PT) were false and created to make the illegal funds seem legal.

In regards to the denunciations done by deputy Roberto Jefferson (PTB) the report says:

 * Everything which he said that could be investigated showed to be true, including confessions against himself.
 * Everything that must be compared to other testimonies showed a great degree of truth. As a matter of fact, all of who, hurriedly, questioned him, saw their defenses collapse, before the successive discoveries.

According to the report, the businessman Marcos Valério is a not reliable person because of  his contraditory testmonies.

The report says that several documents were identified and reviewed proving that large sums of money were withdrawn from agencies of the Rural Bank, in Brasilia and Belo Horizonte, as well as from bank accounts of the enterprises SMPB and DNA Propaganda. According to the documents the beneficiaries  were federal deputies who received the money in person or through relatives, advisers, or  persons nominated by Marcos Valério.

The report affirms that it is possible that some payments were made on a monthly basis, and others more or less frequently. Nevertheless, according to the report the periodicity of the payments is the less important fact.

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At least 200 New Orleans police officers quit force

September 5, 2005

At least 200 New Orleans law officers have left the force following the devastating effects of Hurricane Katrina. Some had notified their superiors, but others did not. A few officers simply threw their badges out the window and attempted to drive a squad car to northern Louisiana after the storm.

Some of the reasons given were because of lack of support from the local government in dealing with the crisis, others such as psychological problems with being in armed confrontation with people foraging for food and water in a desperate situation, where they were left alone but called looters and thugs by the authorities if they helped themselves, and losing their own families might have driven at least two officers to commit suicide.

Reports are that some officers resorted to using their own personal firearms because of the severe equipment shortage, even before the coastal region was devastated by the hurricane. The morale of the police force, which has dealt with the highest number of murders per capita in the United States, is not a new issue. This natural disaster may have exacerbated long-standing tensions in the force that were already present.


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TV debate between German chancellor Schröder and opposition leader Merkel held

September 4, 2005

German chancellor Gerhard Schröder (SPD) and the Chair of the Christian Democrats (CDU), Angela Merkel, faced each other on Sunday evening in the first and only debate between them in this election campaign.

The 90-minute long program, simulcasted on Germany's four major TV stations, focused on employment, taxation and social reforms.

Merkel stated that she wants to reduce the taxation on gasoline to ease the high price Germans have to pay at the pump. Schröder responded that the VAT-increase that the CDU is planning would neutralize that effect and that his government hadn't increased gasoline taxes since 2003.

The chancellor went on to blast Merkel's designate Finance minister Paul Kirchhof, a proponent of a flat tax on income. He said that Kirchhof's suggestions would turn Germans into "guinea pigs". But Merkel called Kirchhof a "visionary" and said her party would make taxation "easier and more just".

Speaking of employment, Schröder stated that his reforms are beginning to work and that he is on the right track. Merkel referred to five million unemployed Germans and said that seven years of Schröder government were "bad years for Germany".

Polls conducted by the ARD after the debate show that 49% of Germans believe that Schröder was "more convincing" while 33% think that Merkel was. The ZDF said that 48% of the population think Schröder performed better, while 28% say the same about Merkel.

However, overall polls conducted by the ARD as well, say that Schröder's SPD can expect 32% in the upcoming federal election, his current coalition partner, the Greens, 7%. Merkel's CDU, along with its bavarian sister party CSU, on the other hand is projected to get 43%, which would enable them to form a coalition government with the FDP, which stands at 6%. Their majority however is slim, because the newly formed Party of the Left can expect 9%.


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U.S. classifies record number of documents in 2004

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OpenTheGovernment.Org, a coalition of conservative and liberal nonprofit groups, released a 2005 report (PDF, 12 pages) saying that all branches of the U.S. Federal Government are being significantly more secretive, and spending significantly more money on document secrecy. In 2004, federal officials classified 15.6 million new documents, which is 81 percent more than in 2001. Over the same period, the cost of classifying those new documents rose from $4.7 billion to $7.2 billion. These figures do not include documents classified by the CIA, as that agency's information is itself secret.

The report is also critical of the fact that only $48.3 million was spent on declassifying old documents in 2004. They concluded that for every dollar spent on declassification, the federal officials spent $148 creating and storing new secrets, more than in any previous year. It is estimated to cost $460 to classify one document.

The state secrets privilege allows the executive branch to classify federal court hearings and documents. On average, the Bush administration has used this privilege 33 times more per year than cold war administrations (1953-1976), and nearly three times the 1977-2001 average. The report sees other measures of government secrecy, such as the number of secret patents on the rise as well.

The report does not explore the larger economic impact of the increase in secrecy per se. However, it observes that taxpayer savings due to whistleblower activity is on the rise despite the elimination of traditional whistleblower protections.

It also notes that 64% of advisory meetings were closed to the public. Such meetings provide lawmakers with advice on scientific and technical matters which are supposed to be free of special interest. Legislation covering such meetings states or assumes that they are open to the public, but some agencies, like the Department of Defense, have traditionally been permitted to hold closed meetings. Once such agencies are excluded, the report finds a threefold increase in closed meetings since 2001.

The report is critical of poor funding for processing Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests, with which the majority of federal agencies surveyed can not keep up. There is concern that more of the financial burden for such requests may be being born by those organizations making the requests, instead of the agencies holding the classified documents. FOIA requests increased by 25% between 2003 and 2004, to 4 million, while funding for processing such requests increased by only 5%.

How much of this secrecy directly relates to various current events, such as the War in Iraq or terrorism, is unclear. In 2004, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court approved 1,754 requests from law enforcement officials last year to conduct surveillance on foreign nationals within the United States, double the number issued four years ago.

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Most of this one is just dry factual stuff which is not POV, but they do have a POV. I've tried to balance it by saying that it is unclear how much is due to recent circumstances. As I see it, lefties will read the increase in surveillance of foreign nationals as bad, but righties will read it as good, so it provides an interesting balance. Anyway, I didn't feel much more is necissary as the commentary was overshadowed by the number. I considered including some of the high profile cases where secrecy has been controversial, such as having Cheney be both VP and Energy guy, but looking to specific high profile cases seemed "off topic" for such an article. - Nyarlathotep 20:52, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

BTW, I don't think the report means to target Bush through choice of its year ranges; the organization is just not that old and they want to talk about today. If anyone feels they are Bush bashing, you should try to dig out the information that says secrecy was also increasing under Clinton, etc.; trust me it was.

Also, I would appreciate any refertences to the elimination of traditional wistleblower protections, although a link to wikipedia may provide that.
 * The balance so far has been pretty good, but it could use some more of it (which I think can be done simply by explaining a few items a little more), such as "secret patents".

 * Also:
 * I think it could be compared to a more recent year, such as 2003 or 2002 (that is, if information is available).

 * Actual figures would be good in here, to better explain. Also note that with an advance in technology, more information and the ability to process documents has increased rapidly since the Cold War.
 * Actual figures would be good in here, to better explain. Also note that with an advance in technology, more information and the ability to process documents has increased rapidly since the Cold War.

 * Another area where it could be explained in more detail, I felt as if it was a little dry in this statement.
 * Another area where it could be explained in more detail, I felt as if it was a little dry in this statement.

But, as said before - good job so far. --Mrmiscellanious 15:55, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

 * (1) I think the choice of 2001 is partly because of the change of presidents, partly because of what years they had spent a lot of time looking at, and partly just to have a pre-9/11 picture. I'm not sure why any year is any more informative than any other really, without looking at some graph.  I'll see what information is available in the report.
 * (2) Yes, I wondered about using the actual number of applications, I'll make that change when I get a chance. But, no, its extremely unlikely that modern technology is relevant, due to the nature of the privilege.  If your an libertarian / anti-federalist, you could claim "expansion of federal power".  If your a liberal, you can claim bush helping his oil buddies, or hiding war stuff.  If your a Bush supporter, you could claim he was prosecuting terrorists.  But, all such things are pure speculation, as the report just doesn't say what the cases were, or even if they knew what the cases were.  I feel its best to just give the figure and forget about it.
 * (3) I'll consider some rewordings.

My own "mental picture" is that secrecy has been getting "worse" for a long time, AND that each president has "made it even worse". My understanding of this report is that, in some areas, the Bush administration is significantly more secretive even by previous standards, but that, in other areas, the "second derivative of secrecy" has increased only a bit under Bush. - Nyarlathotep 17:14, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

BTW, I would love to know how many of the FOIA requests were by companies vs. nonprofits. At some point, secrecy should stary to have a negative economic impact.. You may be able to see this in the number of companies making FOIA requests, but you need to eliminate the noise from poliical requests.


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EU, China fail to agree on textile trade

September 4, 2005

Talks between the European Union Trade Commissioner Peter Mandelson and Chinese Commerce Minister Bo Xilai, held today in Beijing, brought no compromise on unblocking 80 milion pieces of Chinese textiles impounded in the EU.

The clothing is held in European warehouses due to overshoot of the China-to-the-EU export quotas. In June, the EU member states agreed to raise the limit by approximately 10%, but EU importers and Chinese producers continue to push for a greater amount of trade.

Concerns on textiles imported from Asia have split the EU countries: those with strong retail sector support increasing the quotas, while others, which have large clothing industries (Spain, Portugal, Italy) want to keep, or even reduce, limits in the future.

A similar dispute exists between China and the United States. On Friday, George W. Bush's administration announced new quotas on imports of Chinese bras and synthetic fabric, after negotiations between both countries broke down.


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Talk:Crime in New Orleans sharply increases after Hurricane Katrina

I updated the article to make it past tense and make the first paragraph less sensational and have less implication of authority. I know that making it past tense probably lessens its value as an article, but it's been three days since either of the articles this one is based on, so I think it needs to be past tense to be rightfully published at all. It still probably needs a lot of work.

Also, if anyone's willing to read through the two sources, there's a lot of information there that could be added. --Yarvin 23:18, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Publish?
Alright, I've gone out on a limb and published this thing. If it's gonna be published, it needs to be done soon, given how old it is already. If it's not fit to publish, just change it back. --Yarvin 07:46, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Since the reports this article was based on have been written, considerable order has occured within New Orleans, particularly with the deployment of the 82nd Airborne division, some U.S. Marines, and a whole bunch of National Guard troops, as well as other law enforcement personnel from other areas including New York City. Essentially New Orleans is now an occupied city under martial law, so suggesting that you can now go and commit crimes is hardly true anymore.  Still, as you've said, if it is ever going to be published, it needs to be published now and now later, while this is at least stale or perhaps even historical knowledge by now, considering how quickly things are changing in New Orleans at the moment.  --Robert Horning 22:46, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

What is wrong with it?
This is a really useful article for those who are studying Hurricane Katrina's impacts on New Orleans it should be published so that people who need an article like this can gain information.

 * Erm, it has been published for over four years now. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:25, 28 November 2009 (UTC)


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Australian Health minister makes inappropriate comments about Brogden suicide attempt

September 5, 2005

Australia's Federal Minister for Health, Tony Abbott, has made a number of comments about the previous New South Wales Australian Liberal Party leader, John Brogden, who recently attempted suicide, which have been widely thought to be inappropriate.

Abbott is reported to have made comments such as "If we did that, we would be as dead as the former Liberal leader's political prospects" and "Whenever you hear that David Clarke is doing bad things, you know he is really doing a great job", referring to the factional leader claimed to have led the campaign against Brogden. The comments were made at a party function approximately twelve hours after Brogden's suicide attempt. Abbott is also reported to have said "I just want to make it clear I have never told an inappropriate joke, I've never pinched a woman on the backside and I never make inappropriate gestures to women" at a Kenthurst Liberal Party branch meeting, in reference to Brogden's reported behaviour at a function approximately two months ago.

There have been calls for Abbott to resign or be sacked by Prime Minister John Howard from some sectors, such as persons involved in mental health care, as well as the Federal Opposition. They claim that the comments show that Abbott is not mindful of mental health issues when they should be foremost in his mind.

The comments were first raised with Abbott by the ABC Insiders program yesterday. He confirmed that he had made the remarks and offered to apologize "if anyone is upset", and later that day made such an apology. The extent of the apology was criticised in the House of Representatives in Federal Parliament that day, with Julia Gillard, the Shadow Health Minister, calling it "half-arsed" during debate on a motion to censure the minister for his comments. The motion was rejected as the Liberal/National coalition form Government federally.

There is suspicion that the tipoff about Abbott's comments was made by a member of the left-wing faction of the Liberal party, of which Brogden was a member, as a form of payback against members of the right-wing faction, of which Tony Abbott is a member. The Liberal right are said to have been involved in the campaign against Brogden.


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