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Talk:Draft constitution pushed into Iraqi parliament

Big surprise. Quite predictable. Bush admin.types like this expected friction. Conflict is a "good thing" for globalists(justifies occupations,police state and "big brother" controls) and war profiteers. Paulrevere2005 12:05, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I worked on this article last night and there was quite a bit of information from both sources detailing Bush administration pressure to "stick to the deadline", but I was too tired to keep including information. I had hoped someone else would continue developing this article. Perhaps you, Paul, would take a stab at it? --Chiacomo (talk) 14:38, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * America would never have worked if some other country had freed us from Great Britain..and especially if they had done it in 1726 instead of 1776.We were more fractured than Iraq is now and the only reason we made it is because we had to fight so hard to get our freedom there was no way we were gonna lose it. So we forced ourselves to work together. Eventually the Iraqi people could have done the same thing. All the factions come together for the common goal of kicking the Saddam monarchy out on its ass...Had a bloody revolution..and then have a free Iraq built on the blood of IRAQIS...NOT somebody else's blood! But the guys we elected didn't want that; to them Iraq was a nice little entrance to a permanent Middle Eastern military presence. Everybody knew before the invasion these 3 factions would not cooperate..that it would be constant upheaval and war. Colin Powell told Bush "If you break it; you'll own it"...and you can bet your last dollar that Bush knew it(knows it) too.He majored in world history(88%average on history courses) at Yale + I imagine his dad taught/told him a few things about Middle Eastern cultures...he knew(knows) exactly what to expect and the play is unfolding exactly on script. We are still in Afghanistan and they have nowhere near the complexity of cultures. We are in Iraq and will stay there as long as our globalist foreign policy people,headed by our President, want us there..and you can bet it'll be a whole lot longer than 10 years. So, in case you haven't figured it out yet, our side doesn't give a rat's ass about the Iraq constitution and it doesn't matter at all whether one is rammed through or not.Western governments and western oil companies are going to be controling Iraq oil flow and Western military bases will be there for a long,long time[]. It wasn't/isn't all about oil...it was, and is all about oil and globalization aka americanization. So I won't be working on a story that isn't really a story at all; it's just a play; what the British call a "farse". Paulrevere2005 04:13, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Okay -- thanks for the reply. I find it interesting that you credit the president with more intelligence than most of his critics. --Chiacomo (talk) 04:18, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Lance Armstrong accused of EPO doping

 * Being French myself, I'm not surprised at all about your censorship of my text below. BTW, I was LOL to see how you have added yourself your own speculation about the so-called experimental French test. 82.224.88.52 12:06, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Armstrong says: "I will simply restate what I have said many times : I have never taken performance enhancing drugs."

Since there are enough frozen extracts left, the next stage could be to let an independant body test not only the w:EPO but also Lance's specific DNA in the same sample.

 * Everything on Wikinews must be sourced. I see nothing in the link below which backs up your claims. However, the L'Equipe page does make it clear that the test is experimental. Dan100 (Talk) 12:37, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

 * The main thing, 82.224.88.52, is that it's a lead story here; most major media are ignoring it. If anyone's interested they can dig for the truth; imo, any US sports "hero" of the last 35 years is suspect(e.g. Mark McQuire). Paulrevere2005 13:41, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Wrong kind of cancer
Lance Armstrong did not have prostate cancer. He had testicular cancer

Changed headline
Strange that this story ever had such a headline. Armstrong's denials are certainly not news;he's been denying similar accusations for years. The only story hewre is the fresh allegation. Neutralizer 20:03, 26 August 2005 (UTC)


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Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson calls for assassination of Venezuela's president

August 23, 2005

Pat Robertson, an American televangelist, former presidential candidate, and founder of the Christian Coalition of America, has called for the assassination of Venezuela's president Hugo Chávez.

On his popular talk show, The 700 Club broadcast on the Christian Broadcasting Network, Robertson said on Monday that Chávez had destroyed the Venezuelan economy and made his country a "launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent". Ninety-eight percent of all Venezuelans are Roman Catholic or Protestant.

Relating to the latest allegations from Chávez that the U.S. is planning to assassinate him, which the U.S. government denies, Robertson said: "You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it."

He added that he did not believe Venezuela would stop exporting oil if that were to happen as Chávez suggested. He again called Chávez a "terrific danger" to the U.S. with the potential to hurt the country "very bad[ly]" and concluded: "We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."

A spokeswoman for Robertson, Angell Watts, said to the Associated Press that he would not give interviews on Tuesday and had no statement elaborating on his remarks. However, he later issued an apology.

In response, Venezuela's Vice President José Vicente Rangel accused Robertson of making terrorist threats: "It's the height of hypocrisy for the U.S. to continue talking about the war against terrorism when at the same time you have someone making obvious terrorist declarations in the heart of the country."

The U.S. State Department called the remarks "inappropriate" and insisted that they do not reflect official policy and that the U.S. is not now, nor ever was, planning to take "hostile actions" against Venezuela.

Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, reacted to Robertson's remarks: "It's absolutely chilling to hear a religious leader call for the murder of any political leader, no matter how much he disagrees with such a leader's policies or practices."

In an effort to distance themselves from Robertson's statements, many evangelical Christians have publicly condemned his speech. "This kind of statement, by this well known American Christian leader, is in complete contradiction to the teachings of Jesus Christ who evangelical Christians believe and seek to demonstrate," said Geoff Tunnicliffe, International Director of the World Evangelical Alliance. "Robertson does not speak for evangelical Christians. We believe in justice and the protection of human rights of all people, including the life of President Chavez."

Robertson is considered to have staunch conservative views. His unsuccessful bid for the Republican nomination for president in 1988 led to allegations of partisanship. According to White House press secretary Scott McClellan, Robertson met with President George W. Bush in November 2002 to discuss the Invasion of Iraq. He considers himself to be a supporter of Bush. Today he remains a controversial public figure.

Hugo Chávez has led oil-rich Venezuela into an anti-US, pro-Cuba policy, and called for seizing assets of wealthy families in an attempt to convert his nation from capitalism to socialism. He has also worked against regional trade pacts led by the US. These actions have alarmed some in the US, such as Robertson, as well as many in his own country. His policies are against the interests of powerful families in Venezuela, so he may be a target of local assassins.

A similar call from a religious leader for assassination came from the now deceased Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran in 1989 against British ex-Muslim writer Salman Rushdie over the content of his book, The Satanic Verses. Iran also offered a multi-million dollar reward to anyone who carries out the killing.

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US televangelist Pat Robertson apologizes for assassination remark, August 25, 2005


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Archaeologists find 1.8M-year-old Homo erectus skull/Brief

Archaeologists say they have found a 1.8 million-year-old Homo erectus skull in Georgia, the oldest such skull to be found in Europe. According to David Lortkipanidze, director of the Georgian National Museum, the skull was found August 6 and excavated on August 21 85km southwest of Tblisi in Dmanisi.

Previously similar fossils have been found in Africa, the Middle East, and Asia.


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'Piano Man' speaks and is identified, returns home to Germany
The man known as the 'Piano Man' has left the hospital where he was staying and has returned home to his native Germany. The man, aged 20, was originally from Germany. When he lost his job in Paris, the man traveled to the UK through the Channel Tunnel. He was going to commit suicide when he was found by police on a Kent beach.

The man was found soaking wet on a beach in Kent in an expensive-looking suit from which all the labels had been removed.

Australian current affairs TV program accused of inciting religious hatred
Australian media analysis program Media Watch has accused popular national "current affairs" style program Today Tonight of deliberately quoting a Muslim youth out of context, with the intention of presenting a negative stereotype of the Muslim community. The allegations were aired during Monday nights episode.

The interviewer, Tim Noonan, dismissed the claims in a statement to Media Watch, saying "I believe the edit was an accurate representation of what they told me and I absolutely deny that anything was taken out of context."

Archaeologists find 1.8M-year-old Homo erectus skull
Archaelogists say they have found a 1.8 million-year-old Homo erectus skull in Georgia, the oldest such skull to be found in Europe. According to David Lortkipanidze, director of the Georgian National Museum, the skull was found August 6 and excavated on August 21 85km southwest of Tblisi in Dmanisi.

Previously similar fossils have been found in Africa, the Middle East, and Asia.

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Indiana senator testing waters for 2008 U.S. presidential bid

August 23, 2005 Relatively unknown Indiana Senator Evan Bayh is taking steps to make a run for U.S. President during the 2008 election cycle. Bayh has formed a political action committee (PAC) and already is a leading money-raiser among Democratic party hopefuls. The Hoosier politician also is touting his appeal to traditionally republican voters.

Popular red state politician
Among the selling points Bayh points to in his likely 2008 bid is that he is a democrat who consistently wins elections in republican red states by appealing to moderate republican and libertarian-leaning voters.

A former leader and key figure in the Democratic Leadership Council moderate movement in the Democratic party that brought Bill Clinton to the national stage, Bayh is known as a Democrat who won with landslide margins of victory during both terms as Indiana's governor and two U.S. Senate runs in the traditionally Republican-voting state.

In an interview with the Terre Haute, Indiana Tribune Star newspaper, he noted Democratic former president Harry Truman as a role model. In recent news reports he also criticized the national Democratic Party image as being weak on national defense.

Critics point out this popularity with moderate republicans could be a liability for Bayh in the Democrat Primaries, which are traditionally controlled by left-leaning party activists, also referred to as "Progressives."

Organized money raiser
Between January and July 31, 2005, three years before the election, Bayh has raised $1.17 million for a potential 2008 bid--more than most potential 2008 presidential nominees. He out raised fellow democrats Hillary Clinton, John Kerry and John Edwards. Each, unlike Bayh, are well-known household names in the United States. Money-raising results by political action committees are reported to and released by the U.S. Federal Election Commission.

Clinton is widely considered the front runner, and Democratic money leader. She has focused her attention on reelection in 2006 to her New York U.S. Senate seat. For that campaign, she has raised $10 million.

Bayh is being beaten in the money-raising arena by Democratic party chairman Howard Dean, who raised $1.77 million in the first six months of the year. Dean has made a name for himself as an effective money-raiser for liberal causes. But Dean has bowed out of the 2008 race according to reports.

Bayh is trailing the top Republican 2008 presidential; hopeful, Sen. Bill Frist, considered a top Republican candidate for 2008, who collected $1.9 million in the first six months of 2005.


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Talk:Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson calls for assassination of Venezuela's president

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I may be ignorant, but how is a meeting between Bush and Robertson in 2002 related to his latest remarks? Could you please clarify that for me. Thanks --Deprifry 17:59, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

 * Good question. It's important because it shows this is not just another religious "kook". This is a man who had the ear of the President concerning the invasion of Iraq; therefore what he says can not be dismissed lightly. 67.71.122.236 18:28, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Then make it a paragraph at the end in an edit. --24.163.113.89 18:33, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

 * No; since this article is about Robertson's opinion on US foreign policy, it is important to show that he has actually spoken to the President about US foreign policy. In addition, the article quite rightly begins by identifying who this person,Robertson,is. Such assassination comments are only "news" because of who Pat Robertson is and what his political status is. This is part of that identification process which must come first; especially since a lot of non-americans have likely never heard of him. 67.71.122.236 18:38, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

The "whole world" knows about Venezuela that the last non-intrinsic US-puppet_president flew with an US_oil-helicopter to the U.S. and that CCN-tv clandestinely continues to organize an US-"coup d'etat" in Venezuela. The proponent has made the point that most Non-US citizens don't know Bush's priests. (Pat Robertson [Presidential Advisor in Foreign Politics] who wants to kill AntiUS_Hugo Jarvez). Are there nonUS-counteracting Security Services? OR. Could You explain me what the US calculates? IF all U.S.-citizens are attacked worldwide THEN they will get the message that others shoot such oil thieves and protect Venezuela's vernacular Mayas & their oil_soil (Conditional Implication)? What are the criminal activities of Navy Seals? Perhaps You could prepare datas & facts & more?
 * I took the liberty to restructure the article a bit and added an expanded background on Robertson at the end which I hope satisfies everyone. --Deprifry 18:49, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

 * I can't read that last unsigned rave due to weird language like "nonUS-counteracting", but it seems to be a call for killing US citizens worldwide. I hope I am misreading it.  As for US oil companies "stealing oil", they buy it at arranged prices from the government in power, that is not stealing.  However, many of the governments are corrupt and do steal the money paid to them, rather than spending it on their people.  This seems to be a recurrent problem, and I'm not sure how the US could solve it short of invading such countries and installing a less corrupt government.  This would not be a good idea. StuRat 22:30, 26 August 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:Indiana senator testing waters for 2008 U.S. presidential bid

U.S._presidential_election%2C_2008 already notes Senator Bayh's potential candidacy, so perhaps you'd like to add a link from your article to that Wikipedia entry?

Not household name
I'm not so sure that Evan Bayh is as unknown as the article suggests—I at least knew he was a politician and potential presidential candidate. Theshibboleth 00:17, 24 August 2005 (UTC)


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UK guinea pig farm to close after owner's family grave robbed

August 23, 2005

A forty-year-old British guinea pig farm is to close after a six-year campaign of intimidation by animal rights extremists culminated in the remains of the family's dead mother being dug up and stolen.

Glady Hammond's sons, who run the farm which breeds the guinea pigs for medical experiments, have been the victim of bomb threats, hate mail, malicious phone calls, an attempt to brand them as pedophiles, and arson attacks.

However last year's exhumation of their mother was the final straw. The remains of the 87-year-old, who died in 1997, were removed under the cover of darkness from the churchyard they were buried in, and have not been found.

Two men were arrested in connection with the grave robbery, but were later released without charge.

The family hopes that their announcement that the farm will close will lead to the return of their mother's remains.

A close relative of Mrs Hammond, who spoke anonymously to the BBC, said, "Gladys was a relative of the Halls by marriage only and had no involvement in guinea pig breeding. She was a kind, gentle country lady who loved animals."

Legal peaceful protesters were overjoyed at the news. Johnny Holmes, a spokesman for Stop the Newchurch Guinea Pigs, said: "This is the most fantastic day of my life." The group, which has picketted the farm for several years, says it will remain until all the guinea pigs have gone.

The group's website describes the experiments the guinea pigs were subjected to as being "horrendous", and have accused the farm of keeping tens of thousands of animals in poor conditions leading to many dying of malnutrition and neurosis. Video footage taken by the group inside the farm show many young animals dying and under extreme stress.

They also say the animals have been used for cosmetics research and for "unscientific" medical experiments.

The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry (ABPI), in an online statement, gave their best wishes to the Hammond family, and described the decision as "regrettable but understandable".

Their director of Science and Technology said, "Guinea pigs have provided essential information to support biomedical research into respiratory disease resulting in real breakthroughs in the development of new medicines."

The animals from the farm have been used in biomedical research, especially for respiratory diseases such as asthma. The ABPI also said that future animal research may be carried out in countries that do not have the strict welfare controls the UK has.


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Goatse is so old, find another subject. FranksValli 19:38, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

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Israel completes Gaza strip, West Bank pull-outs

August 23, 2005

Israel has completed its pull-out from the Gaza Strip and four West Bank settlements.

It had been feared that the protesters in the two West Bank towns, Sanur and Homesh, would put up strong resistance but in the end only made token protests, pelting soldiers with fruit, flour, and paint and burning Israeli flags. The residents of the two other towns went peacefully.

In the synagogues of the settlements Israeli troops had to cut through barricades of iron bars and barbed wire before carrying out protesters, but they did not resist. Around 40 settlers made a last stand on the roof of an old fort before giving themselves up to riot police after being sprayed with water cannons.

The Israeli Chief of Staff said, "There has been less violence than we thought. One of the reasons was because rabbis worked to calm tensions."

Four police officers received minor injuries.

Local Palestinians looked on as the protesters were cleared, and told reporters that life would be easier for them now. Previously, Israeli settlers had stopped Palestinian farmers from travelling, and had even stopped some of them visiting a village cemetery.

Israelis will retain responsibility for security in the West Bank settlements, although in the Gaza strip that role has now been handed over to Palestinians.

In the Gaza strip, Israeli forces have already demolished six of the settlements left behind by the evacuation of 8,500 Israeli settlers to make way for new Palestinian construction.

In the West Bank, there remain some 120 Jewish settlements housing more than 230,000.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has seen his poll ratings raise despite the angry scenes. Hamas, a radical Palestinian group, has attempted to present the pull-out as a surrender by Israel. "We believe that this unilateral withdrawal is a complete failure for the Israeli enemy, that it deserves no concession from our side whatsoever," said a spokesman.

US President George Bush said the pull-out has "changed the dynamics on the ground and has provided hope for the Palestinian people."


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Talk:Israel completes Gaza strip, West Bank pull-outs

=="Local Palestinians"?

I'm having difficulty understanding the following:

"Local Palestinians looked on as the protesters were cleared, and told reporters that life would be easier for them now. Previously, Israeli settlers had stopped Palestinian farmers from travelling, and had not even let them visit the village cemetery."

Is this just a generalization, or is it referring to Palestinians from a particular location? Theshibboleth 21:33, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I had a go at making it easier to read, but I can't answer your question. I think that it means in one of the villages that they are withdrawing from though. --Apyule 01:40, 24 August 2005 (UTC)


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Canada considers trade retaliation against the U.S.

August 23, 2005

The government of Canada is demanding that the United States stop applying duties on Canadian lumber and refund the C$5 billion in duties that has been collected. As reported earlier a NAFTA panel rejected Washington's claims justifying those duties, but the U.S. is not abiding by the NAFTA decision.

Canada had asked the WTO for permission to retaliate. Jacqueline LaRocque, a spokeswoman for Canadian Trade Minister Jim Peterson, said that Canada is considering imposing C$5 billion in duties on imports from the U.S. in retaliation. "Canada has wanted to make it very clear that we are not happy with the position of the United States to simply ignore what is a clear NAFTA ruling in Canada's favor," Canadian Finance Minister Ralph Goodale was quoted as saying.

The U.S. is still dealing with a 4 billion dollar ruling against it by the WTO relating to its practice of helping large American companies set up "Foreign Sales Corporations" offshore in order to have a competitive edge in Europe. That dispute resulted in the U.S. having to change its laws last year.


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Hiker missing from US state of Utah wilderness found in Australia

August 23, 2005

A man missing from a camping ground in southern Utah in the Western US since July 30 was found in Australia. His automobile was found in a campground of Dixie National Forest with a note that he would be back in a few hours. An extensive search and rescue operation was conducted to try to locate this hiker by the Washington County Sheriff's Office in Utah.

Investigators in the Sheriff's Office were able to track him down to Cairns, Queensland. Apparently before he was "missing", he bought a one-way ticket to Australia. Bryan Butas, the missing hiker, apparently had been under a great deal of stress and "got sick of it all", according to a telephone interview by the Associated Press.

Butas has been charged with insurance fraud, a second-degree felony, by Washington County Attorney Brock Belnap. This was because Butas plotted to obtain a $250,000 life insurance policy before faking his own disappearance. He has also been given a bill for $20,000 by the Washington County Sheriff's Office for their search and rescue operations on his behalf.

His wife and children have since his disappearance moved to the wife's parent's home in Ohio. Butas's parents came to Southern Utah to help in the search and were "embarrassed and shocked" to learn their son had merely run away from marital and financial difficulties, Washington County Sheriff Kirk Smith said.

Washington County Sheriff Sgt. Jake Adams said his investigation included tracing an application Butas made for a passport, his purchase of a one-way airline ticket to Australia, and the life insurance policy that names his wife and children as beneficiaries. On August 18, Adams said Butas's mother called him to say her son had called home the evening of August 11, several days after the search was officially called off for the missing man. Butas asked his mother for money and an airline ticket home, which she sent.

Butas has since been checked into the Veteran's Administration Hospital in Brecksville, Ohio, according to Adams, but will shortly return to Utah.


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Jetliner crash-lands in Peru

August 24, 2005

A Peruvian jetliner carrying between 94 and 100 people crashed near Pucallpa, Peru on Tuesday at 21:20 UTC. Peruvian President Alejandro Toledo said 70 to 80 had been killed, and other authorities have said at least 40. The Boeing 737-200, operated by military-run airline Tans Peru had attempted an emergency landing on Federico Basadre road in Peru's central jungle. The crash is said to have been caused by bad weather.

"Until now, there are 40 cadavers that rescue teams are pulling from the wreckage. There could be more deaths, we assume some 60 people in total, since we've rescued 20 injured people," said a police office in the nearby town on RPP radio.

The pilot contacted the Pucallpa airport saying he could not land because of strong winds and a heavy storm, said Norma Pasquel, an airport receptionist. When the plane crash-landed, its landing gear had not been released, according to firefighter Ilda Pineda.

The plane was on a flight from Lima to Iquitos via Pucallpa.

Five of the deaths have been confirmed by Berta Garcia, a secretary at Pucallpa's municipal hospital, on RPP radio. She said the bodies of four adults and a small boy had been brought to the hospital.

Tans Peru confirmed the emergency landing, saying several people had been killed or injured.

100 people—92 passengers and eight crew members—were on the plane, said Tans spokesman Jorge Belevan on CPN radio, and his figures were echoed by BBC News. Speaking on the same station, Transportation Minister Jose Ortiz said the plane carried 93 passengers and five crew membmers. Xinhua reported that 94 people were on the plane.

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Talk:Jetliner crash-lands in Peru

Jose Ortiz Quote
This article says "100 people—92 passengers and eight crew members—were on the plane, said Transportation Minister Jose Ortiz on CPN radio", this article says but following AP, he said "93 passengers and five crew" on CPN radio".. --Aphaia 02:30, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * That's odd. I must have quoted the wrong person.  I meant to use this quote from the Newsday version of the AP story:

 * Transportation Minister Jose Ortiz told CPN radio that the plane carried 93 passengers and five crew membmers.

 * Thanks for pointing it out. Theshibboleth 02:43, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Photos
If anyone can find public domain pictures for this, that'd be extremely good. Theshibboleth 03:35, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, it is extremely unlikely we'll find a public domain picture (pretty much government-only; slight chance the public domain Brazillian News Agency might have a pic we can use), however we ca upload Fair use images, so log as they aren't roduced by a news agency. -- NGerda 03:44, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * I know. I was just thinking about the pictures someone found for the unexplained San Francisco expolosion. Theshibboleth 04:03, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Well I've at least found some commercial images.
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 * Theshibboleth 04:22, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Many airline enthusiasts take photos of every plane they ever encounter at an airport and upload them to the internet. Here is a simple search of TANS Peru aircraft at airliners.net. We would of course have to identify the specific plane involved in the crash (what was its Boeing Customer Code?) and convince one of those who have taken a photo of that plane to release their image under a free license. That particular site puts a watermark on its images, so it would be best for a contributor to e-mail/upload the original image, rather than the one hosted at the site. Someone, apparently without prompting, did previously upload a GFDL that crashed to the English Wikipedia.--Pharos 09:49, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

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Could someone remove the big brown box above the archive template? ♪ Tempo Di  Valse ♪ 23:06, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

 * ✅ Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:07, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

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User talk:69.236.29.49

Welcome
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Thanks for your reply! 'Round these parts, we try to welcome everyone -- anonymous editors included as we hope they'll register and become "regular" editors. Please feel free to hang around and become a "regular" yourself -- we're a pretty laid back bunch of folks and I think we're rather likeable. Please let me know if I can assist you/answer questions/etc... --Chiacomo (talk) 05:11, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

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English FA rescinds red cards, FIFA backlash probable

August 24, 2005

The Football Association of England risked a backlash and possible disciplinary action from football's world governing body FIFA on Tuesday when it rescinded the suspensions due from red cards that had been given during the past weekend's matches to FA Premier League players Andrew Welsh of Sunderland and Paul Konchesky of West Ham United.

The FA's decision permitted Welsh to play for the Black Cats in their 2-1 loss at home to Manchester City Tuesday evening. Konchesky will also be available for the Hammers' next game on Saturday when West Ham host Bolton Wanderers. However, the FA's actions contravene FIFA regulations, which demand that any player sent off be suspended for his team's next match, with no right of appeal except for mistaken identity.

FIFA House had already been in contact with Soho Square over the past week after the FA downgraded a red card that had been given to Newcastle United's Jermaine Jenas to a yellow card on the advice of referee Steve Bennett. The FA had indicated it would eventually issue a reply to FIFA, but the decision to overturn two more cards less than a week after the FIFA communication is likely to displease FIFA president Sepp Blatter.

For the past three years especially, Blatter has been adamant that a red card in a football match must result in the player who was sent off missing his team's next game in the same competition. Blatter has clashed with the FA on this issue during that time, going so far as to threaten the English association with expulsion from FIFA. As a result, the FA agreed in 2004 to change their disciplinary process, in particular ensuring the process was expedited so that a player who was sent off did indeed miss his next match. However, it is now apparent that the FA has chosen to also allow for expedited appeals of red cards on grounds other than mistaken identity, which is not provided for in the FIFA regulations.

Although the FA has now permitted Jenas, Welsh and Konchesky to play after being sent off in a previous match, it also extended an automatic three-match ban imposed on Southend United's Freddy Eastwood by one additional match after its disciplinary panel deemed his appeal of a red card received the previous weekend to be "frivolous." The FA also rejected the appeal of Luton Town's Steve Howard, but did not extend his three-match suspension.

Unlike with Jenas, the red cards issued to Welsh and Konchesky will remain on their disciplinary records because the referees involved did not agree that they made mistakes. This means they will still receive an additional one-match ban should they be sent off again this season. Following Tuesday's decisions, half of the six red cards shown in the Premiership this season have been overturned. And in an interesting footnote, it was Jenas who Konchesky was sent off for fouling this past weekend.


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Update: U.S. Army intelligence had detected 9/11 terrorists year before, says officer

August 24, 2005

On Thursday, it was reported at Wikinews that "[a] year before the 9/11 attacks, through data mining a U.S. Army intelligence group had identified two terrorist cells, [which included] Mohammed Atta and three other 9/11 hijackers." An Able Danger contractor, J.D. Smith, has added that the techniques included examination of data related to mosques and religious ties connected to Omar Abdel-Rahman, leader in New York City of a militant Islamic terrorist organization.

Another "Able Danger" operative, Captain Scott Phillpott, gave a statement stating, "I will not discuss this outside of my chain of command. I have briefed the Department of the Army, the Special Operations Command and the office of (Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence) Dr. Cambone as well as the 9/11 Commission. My story has remained consistent. Atta was identified by Able Danger in January/February 2000."

Pentagon spokesman, Larry DiRita, said, "There appear to be more memories than there is information to substantiate those memories. We're reviewing the matter carefully, but thus far have not found what it is these handful of individuals seem to remember."

Other Fox News sources have said that DiRita is wrong. Since it was a classified project, it would be illegal for project participants to retain documents for personal use.


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User:Static~enwikinews

Hi, my name is Static and I live in Perth, Australia. I am a web developer for a major ISP during the day, and a drum n bass DJ/Promoter/Producer/Label Owner during the night. I joined wikinews following the Utah Dance Party shutdown in order to spread the truth about police brutality there.

My websites

 * Drum & Bass / Neurofunk MP3s
 * Drum & Bass Forum
 * Static Myspace
 * Kinematic320 Myspace

Forums where I regularly post

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Google Talk released in beta form

August 24, 2005 Google today released Google Talk (link) in beta, an Instant Messaging (IM) and computer-to-computer voice talk product, using the Jabber protocol (built from XMPP).

At this early stage the service is only available to users with a Google Gmail account. The official client, required for the voice functionality, is only available for Windows XP/2000 although existing IM clients such as Gaim and iChat on Mac and GNU/Linux platforms can be used for text chatting.

The new service does not offer "Voice over IP" - users cannot call telephones, nor can telephones dial Google Talk users. It also has no voice-mail system, unlike rival Yahoo's offering, which is also no longer in beta. Google Talk also does not log chats, and offers no method of searching conversations. Only the last 20 lines of any conversation are recorded.

This positions Google to compete with the popular service Skype. Like Google Talk, Skype's PC-to-PC communications are free. Skype also offers gateways to and from various regional phone services for which it charges. It is not known at this stage if Google intends to enter that market.

The largest search engine on the web, Google receives over 200 million queries each day through its various services. Other recent releases include the Gmail email service and Google Earth, which lets users view satellite photos and other map information.

Related stories

 * Google plans free Internet phone service, 24 January, 2005

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Australian governments to partially fund Forbes conference

August 24, 2005

The Australian government and the New South Wales State goverernment are going to fund the Forbes Global CEO Conference, to be held at the Sydney Opera House next week. The State government has said that the contract prevents it from revealing how much taxpayers money will be spent.

A spokesman for the Deputy Premier, John Watkins, said that they could not divulge the costs "under the contract arrangements". A government source suggested to the Sydney Morning Herald that the state and federal governments are spending up to $1million each.

The State government has been criticised for providing free police protection at the conference. Security will require 200 police a day, at an estimated cost of more than $500,000.

According to the government, the large police presence is required because ASIO has assessed the event as "medium risk". A number of Global justice and peace groups have pledged to protest at the conference. The number of protestors is currerntly projected to be around 2,000.


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 * I don't think this counts as news. If it does, it needs to be written more like a news article and less like an ad. Krisjohn 06:58, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * What do you want me to do? I didn't think it sounds like an ad. I think Google is pretty popular - I don't know if you've heard of them - they have a search engine... and it's not like Google Talk costs any money. When Gmail increased their storage capacity from 1 to 2 GB - that was a news story -see Gmail 1st Birthday; Storage capacity increased to 2GB. When Gmail was translated in 12 languages, that was a news story - Google translates Gmail to 12 languages, asks for volunteers to target 144 more. Surely this is a bigger story than those two. The reason there are no other sources besides Wikipedia (so far) is because Google Talk was just released 3 hours ago! Isn't the point of Wikinews to allow anyone to make stories quickly and easily? So what's wrong with letting Wikinews to be one of the first to break the story? -Hyad 07:18, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * That attitude won't earn you any points. A product release is not news unless you can write up something more than a glorified ad.  Commericial TV might fill its news programming with this sort of fluff, but we should be able to manage something better.  Anyway, I'm sure a couple of other editors will have a go and try to make the article more suitable. (sorry, forgot the Krisjohn 02:55, 25 August 2005 (UTC))
 * Who the hell wrote this? Some obscure open source project launching a new version isn't news. But when one of the most widely-known brands on the planet launches a major news service, that's news. Big news. Dan100 (Talk) 15:38, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

 * OK, but I was a little upset that you said "I don't think this counts as news." I definitely think it's more news worthy than Gmail 1st Birthday; Storage capacity increased to 2GB or Google translates Gmail to 12 languages, asks for volunteers to target 144 more. I have never written a news article, so I didn't eactly know what I was doing wrong. I assume more people will edit to this story (as it develops) from other sources. But come on, why can't Wikinews be the first source of information? The Google Talk article seems to have enough info to write a short news article as it stands right now. I went to Writing an article, followed all the steps, what more do you ask? -Hyad 08:29, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

It just needs some cleaning up to make it read more like news. I'll have a go and you can see how it looks ClareWhite 07:40, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

I've done some cleanup and published it, people will be quite excited by it and I agree it should be published asap. It's not an area I know much about but is it the first free service of its kind? Is this Google's next step in taking over the world? Kepp working on it and add some more sources when they do become available. ClareWhite 07:56, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks from editing the page. Looks fine to me. In answer to your question "is it the first free service of its kind?" No - all of them are free except I think Trillian Pro. However, Google has a reputation for making things simple to use (like Gmail). In answer to your other question "Is this Google's next step in taking over the world?" I'd have to say yes 8^). Pretty soon, we may all be drinking Google Gulp. Read more. I love their flavors - ummm... "Sero-Tonic Water." -Hyad 08:29, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I'd just like to point out that this same story is the front page lead of the British Finacial Times. That suggests it's newsworthy :-) Dan100 (Talk) 15:36, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * I found the link to the Financial Times article here. I figure anyone reading this can go there if they want. I don't really think this counts as a "source" (to put it in the main article) since we didn't actually use any info from them (and besides there are plenty of other publications doing the story). But did anyone notice there is another Google wikinews story that came out today: Google provides Gmail access to American cell phone customers? I wonder if August 24 is the new April 1: see Google's hoaxes. (How much you want to bet that Gmail will go out of beta stage by this time next year?) I'm trying to think of the the significance of August 24th that is somehow related to Google - the reason they made two announcements in one day. Nothing yet... -Hyad 01:13, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

It's his first story....
Well hell, my first Wikinews story (under AutisticPsycho) was Google planning PayPal rival (which delightfully if searched for by its title turns up as the first result on Google!) That was newsworthy. Anyways, go soft on the fucking guy, it's his first story. Krisjohn, you sounded a little harsh and rough on the guy, this isn't something we to portray. We're trying to attract users, not scare them off, they might just continuing devloping current events articles on WP instead of doing it here, or they could go contribute to compeitors like Ohmynews or Slashdot. Anyways, I think it's a great story... I wouldn't have know about it had it not been for Wikinews. The only thing that sucks about Google talk (and Google Earth) is that they only run on Win XP/2000/2003 :( --TUFKAAP 02:41, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

 * All I said was that I didn't think it was newsworthy, and if it was, it needed to be less like an ad. He's the one with the "maybe you've heard of it" bit.  You may notice that I newsyfied it -- spent a bit of time on it after the item began to look more newsworthy.  Much as I might be using the service as I type, I still question the news value of yet another IM product just because it's from Google. Krisjohn 02:55, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

 * God help us! Will people ever learn. We cover everything. Whether a multi billion doller company launchs a new service or the local school bus breaks down - it is entitled to a space here indiscriminatly. I can't remember who's keeping the list, but there is a list of articles that have been attacked by ignorant pessimists as being "too local", "uninteresting", "not news" or whatever. Can you not understand - as long as it ain't biased it is news. Wikinews will someday cover everything down to neighbourhood level. Oh and finally (while im doing my monthly rant) - Harvey Beef employs 600 people and has sales of $0.16bn; whilst Google employs 3,000+ and has sales of $3.2bn. So which company has the greater impact on the global economy? → CGorman (Talk) 15:41, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

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Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikinews. -Hyad 07:42, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:Hyad~enwikinews

Welcome
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Congrats
Congrats on your first story. I'm sorry some people tried to throw cold water on it, but trust me theres no shortage of pessimists in this world. Those comments on the talk page were completely unfair and came from someone with only basic knowledge of wikinews. I look forward to your future contributions and wish the best of luck. → CGorman (Talk) 15:45, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

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have posted the contents of the deleted article on the new article's talk page. there's nothing much in the older one. btw, nice work on this one. — Doldrums(talk) 08:03, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

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Clothes from China piling up on European borders

August 24, 2005

Clothes worth millions of euros are being blocked in European warehouses after the European Union imposed quotas on ten types of textiles from China.

The European Commission agreed to the quotas with China in July and many of them, including jumpers (sweaters) and trousers were quickly exceeded.

Retailers across Europe are now claiming they face massive losses. The European consumer's organisation, BEUC, has said that most of the clothes were ordered before the agreement was made and that their blockage is "ignoring the basic laws of economics".

A representative warned: "The new quotas will lead to higher prices and less choice for European consumers when they try to buy trousers, pullovers, women's blouses, brassieres and other textile products in the coming months."

The Commission is sending a representative to China to try and find a solution to the crisis, but according to the news website Euractive, the quotas are unlikely to be dropped as most EU member countries are in favour of them.


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User:24.182.60.134

As we can see by the pictures submitted here, The "Police" are wearing mask! Explane this to us. Why is a "SWAT" team needed to break up a rave party? This is just another example of the "Police State" that America is becoming. This America, is not the America that I grew up in. As for myself, I'm moving to the Virgin Islands.

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User talk:Lobaf~enwikinews

Hi, please do not place anything kind of advertising on our website - it will be deleted at once so no-one will ever see it. Dan100 (Talk) 10:17, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

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Hi, please do not place anything kind of advertising on our website - it will be deleted at once so no-one will ever see it. Dan100 (Talk) 10:20, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

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Hi, please do not place anything kind of advertising on our website - it will be deleted at once so no-one will ever see it. Dan100 (Talk) 10:21, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:Hurricane Angel~enwikinews

Welcome
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