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Talk:Yushchenko's illness a result of poisoning, doctors confirm

I think it is already a little old news, but also very interesting. It is the first article i begin and i hope it's good??? can someone give me some feedbakc?? (i ve already edited some articles)

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Well, sure it's old but that's not necessarily a problem. However, there are several problems:

 * 1) You didn't date it, so it might be mistaken for new news unless you read carefully.
 * 2) You used the dutch spelling of Yushchenko, not the english one.
 * 3) The headline "was poisoned" sounds like there now is proof for it, but in fact, it's only the old news that Yushchenko has fallen ill and that the cause may be poisoning.
 * 4) There is an error in the usage of the template:develop so it didn't work.

Maybe a new article with the headline "Yushchenko seriously ill" and proper dating? --Regebro 11:22, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I know the news is old, but today on belga, there is a message that the doctors have confirmed, Yushchenko was really poisoned and not just ill. Therfor I wrote it that way, but I changed it.

 * Aha. OK, "Doctors confirm Yushchenko's illness was caused by poison" would be a good headline then. --Regebro 12:24, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * How about "Yushchenko illness caused by poison" - Doctor? As far as I can see, there's still no confirmation, just a whole load of contradictory opinions.  Lankiveil 11:54, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I tried to correct some typos and spelling. I am not a native speaker, so I hope others can join.
 * Other things I found by a quick search:

 * The Times (of London) reported that Dr. Nikolai Korpan who saw Yoshchenko said it was a poisoning to kill him.
 * The name of the hospital is Rudolfinerhaus hospital
 * Rudolfinerhaus director, Dr. Michael Zimpfer, said the London's report was untrue.
 * Yoshchenko visited and stayed in the hospital 2 times.
 * There was an assessment at one point that he would die for 15%.
 * Some British toxicoogist said it could be dioxin. But many are not certain if it was a poison, and what kind of poison it was.
 * Sources:

 * 1) http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apeurope_story.asp?category=1103&slug=Austria%20Yushchenko
 * 2) http://english.pravda.ru/accidents/21/96/383/14694_poison.html

Hope it helps. Tomos 12:37, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Very helpful. I think we can make this article into an article about Yushchenkos illness. I'll give it a go. --Regebro 12:57, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Done! --Regebro 13:31, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your edit. After re-reading the discussion so far, the article, and external sources, I came to think that this article should emphasize not about Yushchenko's illness, but about the doctors' statements that it was a result of someone trying to kill him.

So I reorganized the body quite a bit, emphasizing the doctors' findings/assessments at the top, and making other things more like a context. I am hoping it is an improvement.

A better pagename for that is something like "Yushchenko's illness a result of poisoning, doctors confirm" or something along that line.

But I also noticed that media reports are not unanimous. Some emphasize poisoning, some the three hypothesis, some inconclusiveness of the tests so far. Zimpfer and Korpan, who were at the same press conference it seems, seem to not explicitly agree how much is known for sure. So I am not sure what's the best pagename.

Some sources explain that if it is found to be a poisoning by dioxin or whatever, it will be very bad for his opponent in the presidential race. Others explain how Yushchenko has been behaving (not following doctors' recommendation to stay in/return to hospital). Yet others explain death threats a doctor at Rudolfinerhaus receives. Those are the things that would be nice to have. But I think the article is fine without them.

How do you think? Tomos 09:54, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Renaming the page once has already been done, and I think that there is no need to have two different articles, one saying that Yuchshenko is ill, and another that the doctor confirms it's poison. So therefore I think the "Yuchshenko is seriously ill" headline works, with the later addition that the doctor confirms that it is poison. Now in this specific case, the news is that the doctor confirmed it, but as a general rule I think it's better to enhance an article with new information than to make another article that duplicates some of the old information.
 * This means, that either we keep your reorganisation, and rename the article (again) or we go back to the earlier organisation. Both works for this article. --Regebro 11:30, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I think now I understand why you kept the latest info at the bottom, and put the article's focus on the illness itself, rather than vice versa. I also think either way would work. But the later development (that the high concentration of Dioxin was found) was made into a separate article, and I thought it would be easier to let them be separate and have each articles a focus on a latest development. But, again, as a general principle, either way would work, I think.
 * I should have came and done earlier, but I moved the page, and kept the main text.
 * I also added "related stories" and "see also" sections. Tomos 19:27, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. Yeah, you have a point that a new article focuses on the new developments. Haven't really thought of that. I have to ponder this. ;)
 * However, as these articles stand, we now have two articles about exactly the same thing. They should be merged. --Regebro 20:29, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * This article and the other one are products of two separate press conferences at two different times. So couldn't they be separate articles? I guess it is okay to be separate. Not that we cannot merge them. Tomos 21:08, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Why on earth would we want two articles saying exactly the same thing just because the people who said it said it twice? :-) That make exactly zero sense to me... --Regebro 01:26, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Well yes, they are almost the same thing. But at the time of this article, there was no evidence of "high concentration of dioxin." That is why dioxin toxication was one of the three hypotheses for Korpan. And the director of the hospital emphasized that everything was inconclusive. Although not in the article, some reports at this time said Yoshchenko did not have a plan to go back to the hospital, though doctors seemed to want to have him and examine further. Now in the next article, there is a solid evidence, doctors say. That's how they are separate. And, Yoshchenko is going to the hospital. How different these two stories are? Not that much, but they are not exactly the same. Think, for example, a reader who was suspicious of Yoshchenko's motives in this whole thing. "He must have eaten some bad sushi, but wanted to use the symptom to make his opponent look bad," such a person might think. Reading this article alone or next article together could give such a reader very different impression about the nature of the event. After the doctors claiming that evidence is found, it is either Yoshchenko is really poisoned by someone, or the doctors are part of the fabrication, for example. Well, but let me say, I still think it is possible to merge them. Tomos 02:34, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * So the difference is that on one story we should say that there is no evidence of dioxin and in the other we shouldsay that there is evidence. I think that is an extremely bad idea. --Regebro 21:53, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Well, if you think having two articles is extremely bad, I think that merging two is possible, and nobody else says anything, I think we should try to merge them. Hope you could help. Tomos 21:10, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)


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Man missing after an explosion in central Stockholm

'''An explosion during the early hours of Wednesday blew a big hole in a house in central Stockholm. The tenant, a 48 year old man suspected of stealing valuable books from the Royal Library, is missing. Two persons were lightly injured in the explosion.'''

The cause of the explosion is not yet known. The apartment has been searched with specially trained dogs, but nothing was found. This does not rule out the possibility of explosives, just that none of the more common ones were used, according to Swedish police. Another possibility is a gas leak.

The whereabouts of the tenant is not known. Attempts to search the apartment for a body was stopped by further collapsing of the apartment. The apartment will, in accordance with the usual police routines, be secured before a crime scene investigation can be made.

The man had been in custody for a month on charges of theft from the Royal Library in Stockholm. He is suspected of having stolen books worth hundreds of thousands of dollars and has given a partial confession. Some books were found in his apartment on a previous occasion. He was released from custody this Friday.

Claes-Göran Johansson, safety expert on Fortum, the gas provider, says that nothing indicated a gas explosion. "Normally such a large explosion would have started a fire". He also claims that such a large explosion should not be possible by accident.

The body of the 48-year old has been found in the apartment in central Stockholm.

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I have added some onformation and a link were you can download thunderbird.

This line: "This application can't beat Microsof Outlook, but it gives a lot more functionality than Outlook Express and many other mail-applications." was (mostly) opinion. I wrote in "Thunderbird is directly competing with Microsoft Outlook," and wanted to add a bit more about Microsoft being challanged by open-source projects, but ran out of time. Also cleaned up one or two other things. -- adaMada

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Criminal charges filed in Nov. 19 NBA brawl

After spending weeks going over written statements, TV video and even fan shot video, Oakland County Prosecutor David Gorcyca announced criminal charges against five Indiana Pacer players and seven fans stemming from the November 19th brawl at The Palace Of Auburn Hills.

Stephen Jackson, David Harison, Ron Artest and Anthony Johnson were all charged with one count of assault and battery. Three time NBA All-Star Jermaine O’Neal was charged with two counts of assault and battery. Each charge is a misdemeanor that carries a maximum penalty of 3 months in jail and a fine up to $500.

Gorcyca also filed charges against seven fans. John Green, John Ackerman, William Paulson, Bryant Jackson and David Wallace were all charged with assault and battery. David Wallace is the brother of Detroit Piston star, Ben Wallace.

John Green was charged with two counts of assault and battery. The first one for tossing the cup that started the brawl and another count for punching Artest from behind when Artest went into the stands.

Bryant Jackson also faces a felony assault charge for throwing a chair. That is punishable by up to four years in jail, but Gorcyca said Jackson may serve more time based on his prior convictions.

Two other fans, Charlie Haddad and Alvin Shackleford, were also charged with a local ordinance that prevents fans from walking onto the floor. All seven fans have been banned from The Palace.


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NASA van rolls off California mountain

A commuter van (Van Pool No. 36) from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) plunged 200 feet into a ravine in the Angeles National Forest this morning. The van was carrying ten people: six JPL employees, two NASA employees, and two private contractors. They are identified as:

 * Javier Bautista: Regular Substitute Driver
 * Cheryl Lynn Allworth: Executive Secretary in JPL's Space Experiments Systems Section
 * Dorothy M. Forks: JPL Human Resources
 * Peter Robles
 * Helga Maria Wurm
 * Jane F. Galloway: JPL Business Manager
 * Kerri Lynn Agey: Contractor for JPL Security Services
 * Christopher Butts
 * Jim Kitahara
 * David Myers

Three of the passengers -- Forks, Galloway, and Agey -- lost their lives; the remaining seven sustained various levels of injury, including one passenger suffering critical injury, according to authorities. All victims were airlifted to local area hospitals.

According to witnesses who reported the crash, the van simply drove off the side of Angeles Forest Highway. Despite the presence of fog during the accident, the California Highway Patrol believes that this was not a factor. The CHP has said that the investigation into the crash may take two to three days before the cause is known.

JPL spokesperson D.C. Agle confirmed that the van was from the facility. Initially, JPL refrained from commenting, but JPL security was spotted at the site shortly after the incident occurred.

The Angeles Forest Highway is a two-lane mountain road considered a commuter route for many residents of the Antelope Valley including Palmdale and Lancaster residents. It is an alternative to get to Interstate 210, rather than taking the heavily traveled Antelope Valley Freeway (California State Route 14).

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Soldiers question U.S. Defense Secretary on issues during Kuwait visit

U.S. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, after a speech to U.S. soldiers at an American military base in Kuwait, was confronted by Iraq-bound soldiers raising their concerns over a variety of issues.

During a question-and-answer session of unscreened questions following his speech at Camp Buehring, Rumsfeld replied to soldier's concerns over aging equipment and a lack of armor for military vehicles. One soldier, Spc. Thomas Wilson, received applause from the gathered troops after asking the defense secretary, "Why do we soldiers have to dig through local landfills for pieces of scrap metal and compromised ballistic glass to up-armor our vehicles?" Rumsfeld hesitated, then replied, "You go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you might want or wish to have." Rumsfeld further clarified that the Pentagon was making all possible effort to provide the materials required as quickly as possible, but that it has been difficult to keep up with demand.

 * "It's not a matter of money or desire," Lt. Gen. R. Steven Whitcomb, the commander of Army forces in the Persian Gulf, told the troops after Mr. Rumsfeld asked him to address Specialist Wilson's question. "It's a matter of the logistics of being able to produce it".

However, a recent claim by a company producing such armor for the Pentagon has contradicted this assertion. "We've been telling the Pentagon for months that we have the capacity to double our production," said Matt Salmon, a consultant for ArmorWorks of Tempe, AZ. ArmorWorks, which has a $30 million contract with the Pentagon to supply armor kits to be fitted on Humvee vehicles, claims to be operating at only half-capacity, with little to no interest shown by the Pentagon in increasing their output.

Rumsfeld also addressed an expressed concern regarding aging equipment by asserting that, although all units have equipment of various vintage, troops headed into a combat situation in Iraq are equipped with the newest and best equipment the military can provide.

Maj. Gen. Gary Speer, the deputy commanding general of U.S. forces in Kuwait, stated that every vehicle deploying to Iraq from Kuwait has at least "Level 3" armor protection. According to Speer, this means the vehicle has locally fabricated armor for its side panels, but not bulletproof windows or reinforced floorboards. He was not aware of soldiers retrieving used bulletproof glass or scrap metal from landfills.

It is difficult to estimate the seriousness of the problems cited by the soldiers, and the Army claims to be unaware of widespread shortages in necessary equipment. However, enough soldiers have expressed concern since the start of combat in Iraq to have provoked a reevalution within the military on the amount and type of protection U.S. forces require in Iraq.

Rumsfeld also faced questions from the soldiers regarding the army's 'stop-loss' policy and dismissed concerns over the allegation that Army troops receive better equipment than National Guard troops. "No way I can prove it, but I'm told that the army is breaking its neck to see that there is not a differentiation" in the quality of equipment.

Shortly after the speech, Rumsfeld continued on his way to Kabul to watch President Karzai be sworn in.


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An article in development should not be placed in the "Latest News" section. Add it to http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:Editor_tasks and http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:Workspace instead. jkrusky 22:10, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Agree with above. Coincidentally, I think it's ready for review and am changing its status. 119 22:25, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Agree with above comment, however, I have to ask the reason for spelling out the numbers. I would find it clearer to read via logotypes than words. If this is a standard, then I retract my comment. --Xanadu 02:18, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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I moved the article to a headline I think is more easily understood for non-U.S. readers and does not use "addresses concerns" which might be positive for Rumsfeld at a glance. 119 22:17, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I have no objections to that. I suck at titles. One minor issue is that Rumsfeld wasn't visiting Iraq, but Kuwait. So I'm going to rename it to "Soldiers question U.S. Defense Secretary on issues during Kuwait visit" jkrusky 22:41, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

It should be useful to point out that none of the questions were screened. TDC 17:25, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * so, is this ok to publish now? Any objections? jkrusky 02:51, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The Pentagon later put out that all Humvees that are unarmored are transported by flatbed truck and only used inside bases, whereas all Humvees that went "Outside the wire" were armored. The Pentagon did not mention other types of trucks in the Army inventory. talisein 14:19, 10 Dec 2004 (Iraq)


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I have added a lot of interesting informations. I think even a biased article can be published if we show correct and complete information. Please take a look and correct possible mistakes in spelling:Activists protest against School of the Americas Thanks in advance Carlosar 22:28, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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Blair wishes to cooperate with the United States to reduce climatic change

December 9, 2004 – According to The Times, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom The Right Honourable Anthony Charles Lynton Blair wants to involve the United States of America in efforts to reduce anthropogenic interference with Earth's climates. Historically, the United Kingdom's closest partner in this endeavor has been the Federal Republic of Germany. The United States government has famously refused to ratify the Kyoto Protocol to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. Blair sais also that the Kyoto Protocol doesn't go far enough. He would like to involve the private sector also and he has put this item on top of the G8, so all the large countries of the world have to talk about it.

Mr Byers said yesterday: "The reality is that unless we can get the United States engaged - responsible as it is for around a quarter of the world's carbon dioxide emissions - then any hopes of successfully tackling global warming will be doomed to failure.

Some sources are saying, Blair is saying these things because he can make the more progressive voters change their mind, so they would vote for him.


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Indigenous Australians told to "wash for fuel"

Under a draft plan of the Australian Federal Government's "mutual obligation" agreements, members of the Aboriginal community Mulan in Western Australia will be obliged to ensure that homes and yards are clean, students attend school, rubbish bins are emptied twice a week and that children undertake frequent facewashing.

As a "quid pro quo" the community will receive $172,000 AUD in federal funding for petrol bowsers and fuel stations, while the Western Australian Government will provide regular testing for skin infections, worm infestations and the eye condition trachoma, which is widespread in Mulan.

Community administrator Mark Sewell approached Wayne Gibbons, a former Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission chief executive, to initate an agreement four months, once it became clear that the face-washing program at the Mulan Catholic school was having a positive effect. The program, which has been running for eighteen months, has reduced the levels of trachoma among students from 80% to 16%.

Presently, the residents of Mulan must drive 44km to the nearby community of Balgo for fuel.

Acting race discrimination commissioner, Tom Calma, has approved the deal, despite concerns from members of the Mulan community. Aboriginal lawyer and land rights activist Michael Mansell claimed that placing conditions on funding is unlawful and unenforceable. The government proposal has been widely labelled as 'humiliating' to the community.


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U.S. negotiator calls Kyoto Treaty "not based on science"

The 10th session of the Conference of Parties (COP 10) is being held in the Argentine capital of Buenos Aires; signatories of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change have gathered to discuss issues involving global warming. Senior U.S. negotiator Dr. Harlan Watson came under fire for the United States' refusal to ratify the almost 10 year old Kyoto Treaty (AKA: Kyoto Protocol) which aims to reduce the emission of 6 greenhouse gases in the 55+ signatory nations and requires participating industrialized countries to give money and technology to developing countries.

Watson countered these complaints by arguing that, "Kyoto is a political agreement, it's not based on science." He also stated that the United States remains steadfast to its current position on global climate change. Supporters of the Kyoto Treaty state the protocol's required actions are not sufficient to effect their claimed warming effects.


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Former Pantera-guitarist Dimebag Darrell killed on stage

Nathan Gale, 25, jumped onstage during a concert with the band Damageplan and started shooting a handgun at band members, and then into the crowd. He killed four people, including former Pantera guitarist Dimebag Darrell, real name Darrell Abbott, who seems to have been the main target. Two others were wounded. The gunman was killed by a police officer responding to the call.

Damageplan was started by the brothers Vinnie Paul and Dimebag Darrell when their former band Pantera split up.

Abbot's death is noted worldwide by guitarists, musicians, and lovers of metal.


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After my spelling and grammar got improved I now find that this article can be seen as approved, since nobody complained. All the facts are straight from Dagens Nyheter. --Regebro 13:48, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)


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Mike Tyson arrested for jumping on car hood

Former heavyweight boxer Mike Tyson was arrested on Tuesday for allegedly jumping on the hood of a man's car outside a nightclub in late November. The incident occurred at 1 a.m. at the Pussycat Lounge. The driver of the car, who identified himself as "Asaf Alikadic" to authorities, claimed that Tyson jumped on the hood of his car while he was leaving the nightclub, causing $1,400 in damage to the vehicle. The man does not plan to press charges but wants the damages paid for.

Tyson has a history of criminal behavior and violence outside of the boxing ring. Among other incidents Tyson has served time for rape, has been in litigation and had criminal charges brought against him for other altercations involving automobiles. Inside the boxing ring, Tyson is only a shadow of his former self.

Tyson was released after being given a citation. A court date is to be scheduled within ten days.


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National Academy of Sciences recommends manned Hubble repair

December 9, 2004. A National Academy of Sciences committee has recommended that the National Aeronautical and Space Administration send astronauts to repair the Hubble Space Telescope. The Academy's National Research Council assembled the committee. The committee's chairman is New Jersey Institute of Technology physics professor Dr. Louis J. Lanzerotti.


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Tried to fix the title, I didn't realize all the who what where when needed to be in title, thought that was for the article, and the title was the lead in. I think the new title says all the WWWW Kind Regards SriMesh |  talk  01:10, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Generally only Who, What, Where need to be answered in a title. Also, remember that you are writing for an international audience, so the Where needs to be general enough for people to have some clue about where it is. For instance, "Pileup on second street" is fine for a local newspaper, because it is assumed to be taking place in that city/town. But from the point of view of an international reader, well, there are thousands of 2nd streets in the world;). Even saying "British Columbia" in the title is pushing a bit, since it is unlikely that a reader in most countries would know where that is. But I think that the title is fine for now. Try adding a little bit more to the article if you can, and the split it up into three paragraphs. Then it should be ready to publish.Gopher65talk 03:16, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
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Veteran sergeant accounts US torture coverup

A US veteran sergeant reports witnessing torture in Iraq and the cover-up activities of his commanding officers.

Honorably discharged US veteran, Sergeant Frank "Greg" Ford reports that he witnessed war crimes in Samarra, Iraq.

Democracy Now! interviewed David DeBatto on it's December 12, 2004 show. David wrote Whitewashing torture?, which is an account of Sergeant Frank "Greg" Ford's report on Iraqi prisoner abuse at his base in Samarra, Iraq. DeBatto, a former counterintelligence officer in Iraq, is currently authoring a four-part fiction series, as well as working as a journalist.

In Whitewashing torture?, DeBatto explains that Sergeant Ford witnessed the torture and abuse of Iraqi detainees over a two to three week period in the spring of 2003 by his fellow intelligence operatives. Ford attempted to confront his team leader several times without success, and eventually went to his commanding officer Captain Victor Artiga in order to file a formal complaint. According to Ford, instead of an investigation being conducted, he was given thirty seconds by Captain Artiga to retract his complaint. When Ford didn't comply, he was immediately stripped of his weapon and assigned a 24-hour escort. Shortly after he was told to report to an army psychiatrist for a "combat stress evaluation". The psychiatrist deemed Ford to be "completely normal" and filed her report with Captain Artiga.

According to a witness, Sergeant First Class Michael Marciello, when Artiga saw the psychiatrist's report, Artiga was, "livid". He "stormed" back to the psychiatrist and "browbeat" her to change her report to read that Ford was mentally unstable, and ordered her to have Ford shipped out of the country. Ford was later strapped to a medical gurney and medvac'd out of Iraq. He was initially sent to Kuwait and eventually to Landstuhl, Germany. Ford then underwent psychological evaluation in Germany and also two bases in the United States for approximately 8 months.

David DeBatto indicated he reviewed hundreds of documents regarding Ford's case and couldn't find any of the required documents that should be filed when a soldier is medvac'd from one area to another. David also stated that every doctor that evaluated Ford found him to be completely normal, with absolutely no psychological or mental health issues.

DeBatto reported that Ford was not the only soldier to have this happen to him. According to Col. C. Tsai, a military psychiatrist who examined Ford at the Army Regional Medical Center in Landstuhl, Germany, there had been three or four other soldiers who had been sent there under very similar circumstances. Specifically, the soldiers had made allegations of abuse or mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners. DeBatto indicated he had even came across a decorated veteran from the first Gulf War who made allegations and has committed to a mental ward in Kentucky. According to DeBatto, that officer is still fighting his committal. Tsai had found nothing at all unstable about Ford.

DeBatto reported that Ford was eventually given an honorable discharge in February, 2004. He is currently looking into filing civil and criminal charges against the officers involved. He has contacted the FBI, the Department of the Army's Office of the Inspector General, as well as the Army's Criminal Investigation Division. All three agencies have initiated criminal and administrative investigations into the incident.


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Portal talk:Culture and entertainment

I think that for this page, we should post which new movies are coming out each week. I think that's kind of like news. Repond as soon as you can.- B-101 01:47, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * The problem becomes one of where? Are we posting US movies? England? Germany? Japan? Where in the States? Major releases? 2 theater releases? Lyellin 02:24, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * That's a good point. I think we should do it for each different language version. So that means we should have in this version the ones that are coming out in the US.- B-101 12:13, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Well, what about Britain? Ireland? Scotland? Australia? New Zealand? Which part of hte US? I like the idea- I just see it as a rather large undertaking while we are still working on getting regular news reporting set up. Lyellin 19:18, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Let's just give this issue a bit of time. I think it's a good idea to have movie releases.- B-101 20:41, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I agree- I put it in the same line as opinion articles... a worthy thing to do, once some of the basic news stuff is ironed out. Lyellin 20:57, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * There aren't so many movies being released every week such that a simple list would be tedious. Although I rarely attend the movies myself, I closely follow the movie listings each week so I can update my personal list of which movies to buy on DVD when they are later released in that format.

 * I would find it rather useful to have such a listing available on Wikinews.

 * Anyways, rather than simply talk about this, I will go ahead and start the listing for the United States box office. (I'll start listings for video games and DVDs next). If others want to follow my example for other countries, they are welcome to do so.

 * If others have more high brow taste and wish to list theatre, symphonies, ballet, etc., they are also welcome to do so as well. — DV 00:59, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Upcoming Events
I've created this for two main reasons:
 * It makes the page look far more up to date.
 * It alerts contributors to events they could cover. It gives them a chance to get some background information for an article and means they will be ready to post the event unfolds - i.e increased speed. We can break the news not just report it! CGorman 22:41, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I like the Upcoming Events section but is there a way to differentiate it better from the continuing Regions sections below it. Being the same background colour as it and being different colour than other Regions in left column leaves one thinking those Regions are sections for upcoming events.  If you know what I'm trying to say.  DoubleBlue 16:47, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

i belive this is all stupid

Religion
Perhaps we split religion off from the Culture/Ent section? -- user:zanimum

Category
I prefer

 * This is visible in both locations. --  user:zanimum

added crossword
I added the crossword because
 * 1) Most paper newspapers have a cross word in there entertainment section (I know where not a paper news paper but i personally think that its a good idea.
 * 2) Crosswords are more visible more people see it, more (cross-word eddicted) users come back to wikinews, user base grows.

Added TOC because some people don't read all the way through. I know TOC's were taken out because they're ugly. However this toc only displays 2 things, is useful (if you're here for the crossword and havn't seen the link on the main page. and it doesn't clutter the culture page up. I also think it provides some balance to the left aligned culture page.

third reason i did this is if you really hate the idea you can revert it back, no harm done. Hope I wasn't too bold in updating this all of a sudden Bawolff 04:11, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Bold is the best way to get things done around here! ;)  No harm done at all.  :)  You have introduced a revolutionary new concept, and my only suggestion is a clean-up of aesthetics, which I am starting to work on right now.  Great idea, and Rock On with those Bold propositions!  -- NGerda 04:16, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks Bawolff 20:01, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * No prob. -- NGerda 20:13, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

Ooh
I've been away for a long weekend - this is looking fabulous! ClareWhite 15:43, 30 August 2005 (UTC) PS I raised the question about religion being in this category before - i agree it's not completely appropriate but couldn't think of a better place. Politics and conflicts doesn't seem quite right either, not always anyway :) I think it does come under culture really. Hm.

Adding articles
I submitted an article under Culture and Entertainment a while ago, and the article was immediately deleted by Amgine. I am now attempting to convince Amgine that the article should be published. I would like to determine if there are any other options I might pursue to "make my case", and utilize this site, and this section, to submit and have published, information about our nonprofit work. Any help appreciated.
 * Wikinews is not an advertising network. Unless your event is truly note-worthy its not going to be listed here (sorry to sound mean) Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 23:44, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

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Goodness, this portal needs major focus. The report about Faith Hill is on the front page for ages!!!! Its not news anymore! Does anyone still pay attention to this portal????? Somebody please help!! —Kathzzzz 06:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, but not all portals are updated frequently. Perhaps you can contribute to Culture and entertainment if that is your interest? — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  02:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

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User:TalkHard/Quality over Quantity

UPDATE - I have since decided that this is not the best method of improving quality, and have a new proposal for In-Depth Articles.

The Wikinews Mission Statement contains many noble long term goals of providing a free news outlet to rival AP and Reuters, overcoming the digital divide, and even changing the world. But it also asserts that Wikinews will be a valuable resource from the beginning, even before these long term goals are accomplished. Wikinews has been around over a month now, so we should ask at this point, are we living up to our short term goal of Wikinews being a useful resource on its own, and not just the first step of a bigger, long term plan?

It should be clear to all that the answer is no.

Making Wikinews Valuable
It's important that people know their time here is being used to do something that matters. But we are creating several new articles each day, and most of them seem to end up staying in development or review indefinitely. Those articles that do get finished rarely come close to the level of quality of other news outlets, so who would bother to read them? This is simply wasted effort.

Some have suggested that even the short articles we are valuable. That something is better than nothing. But they are not valuable - in fact they are harmful to the project. Many of these articles are too short, lacking important info, and sometimes loaded with errors. They are simply not at a level of quality that anyone would take seriously. Clearly people can get better news elsewhere, and they will.

Maybe in the long term we will want to try to cover everything, but we have to face facts. It will be a long time before anyone will be able to come here to find out all the latest breaking news, if ever. So for now, we must focus on what can make Wikinews valuable before we reach our long term goals.

There are other sources of news out there we can look to as a model of how we can do this. For example, weekly news magazines don't attempt to cover every story, and of course cannot release breaking stories in a timely manner. But they are not trying to be a replacement for daily newspapers, but rather a supplement to it. Instead of trying to cover everything, what they do cover is done at a level of quality above what is found in a daily paper by going more in depth, and giving the reader more background and context.

Now some have suggested making Wikinews a weekly digest, but this unnecessary. Holding off until the end of the week will not necessarily give us better articles. But it will unnecessarily hold off on publishing finished articles. If we create a good article, why wait to publish it? What we need to learn from weekly magazines is not the timing of their release, but the quality of their articles.

Quality over Quantity
A well written article that is interesting and informative makes Wikinews valuable now. An article that is covered better here than anywhere else makes us valuable now. An article on something that is not covered by the mass media is valuable now. Well written articles like these that are valuable on their own merit, and not just as a piece of a larger picture, will make this site worth coming to and worth contributing to. Furthermore, great articles will be posted on blogs and message boards always bringing new people.

Some suggest that once there are more people, the quality will improve; there will be more people to write and edit the articles. But this ignores many key issues:
 * Catch-22 problem: We need more people to make the site valuable, but the site must be valuable to bring new people.
 * There are no clear short term objectives. How do we know how many people it will take before Wikinews becomes valuable?
 * How are we going to bring people to a project that currently has little to no value? How are we going to keep them active?
 * People seem to like creating new articles rather than editing current ones. Bringing more people may just mean that more articles are created, rather than current ones being improved.
 * But most importantly, we are already failing in our original mission. We must turn Wikinews into a valuable resource no matter how many people we have.

Others might suggest stricter review policies. But if we are too strict, articles will be started and worked on that never pass review. This amounts to much wasted time and effort. We must address the fact that we do not have enough people to adequately cover all the new articles that are being created.

Therefore, a real solution must involve scaling back the quantity of articles in favor of quality.

The Proposal
What I propose is this: an article should not even be started unless there are enough people willing to work on it.

To put this in more practical terms, there should be a page set up where people can propose ideas for articles. If enough people are willing to contribute to an article, it is created. It will take experimentation to figure out how many people is enough, but probably 5 to 10. I'd also suggest that each person can only sign up for 1 or 2 articles at a time. Not that they won't be allowed to work on others, but so not too many articles are being worked on simultaneously.

There are many pros and cons to a system like this. Here are some possible advantages:
 * Articles don't get created that no one is going to work on.
 * People will be more willing to help since they know they will get help from others. They won't have to do it alone.
 * People will be more willing to help because they know their efforts will go toward a good, well researched article.
 * High quality articles will get posted around the Internet drawing new people. Having only high quality articles will keep people returning regularly.
 * More coordination, less wasted effort. People who want to help will work on articles with others rather than doing their own thing.
 * Scales well as more people contribute to the site; as the site grows, more articles will be created on a wider variety of subjects.

There are drawbacks as well, but none that can't be overcome. Here are some potential problems and solutions:
 * People might say they will work on an article, but then flake out - As long as most people come through, this probably won't be an issue.
 * Doesn't allow for original reporting by one person - Our policy on original reporting is currently unclear, but there are ways around this. Exceptions could be allowed in special cases, if voted on. Or, someone with a record of contributing to high quality articles could be given the ability to work on articles alone if desired. Etc.
 * May be unnecessary once more people contribute - If in the future it becomes unnecessary, it can be changed.
 * People who want to contribute may not care for the articles being developed - It's true some will be turned off by this, and may even leave. But ones who stay will be working together rather than on their own thing, and this will more than make up for it.

Conclusion
One of the foundations of the Wikinews project was the idea that it would be valuable even before our long term goals were reached. It declares:

 * "Wikinews will already be useful even if we start out by having relatively few original reports—because it will provide free, neutral, integrated summaries of the news from elsewhere. It will already be useful even if the subject range which we cover will initially be full of gaps—because in these subject areas, we will already benefit from the collaborative wiki model. It can grow to become more useful every day."

This was an important goal, and one that should not be overlooked. And if we can't achieve our short term goals, how are we going to achieve the long term goals.

Some may say that this proposal goes against the spirit of a wiki. But it is really about strengthening the advantages of the wiki format. A wiki is supposed to be about a collaborative effort, and the idea here is to give just a little bit of coordination to our efforts to ensure we really are working together here. Right now, it seems most people are working with relatively little help from each other. And doesn't that go against the spirit of a wiki?

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User talk:Mr. Civics

Hello. Did you figure out how to edit the same article again? If not, please click this link.

On Wikinews, each page has "edit" link. Click it, and you can edit the page.

And this page that you are reading is your "User talk" page. This is where people come to talk to you. You can reply here, or reply to the person's User talk page.

You are Mr. Civics, so your User talk page is "User_talk:Mr._Civics". I am Tomos, so my User talk page is at User_talk:Tomos. Each user has its own. Make sense?

I hope you enjoy your editing at wikinews! Tomos 09:22, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I removed your article from the front page
I removed the article from the front page and left some sharp criticisms of it on the discussion page. Please don't take this personally, it's just that we are trying to strive for neutrality, not political advocacy. Jimbo Wales 23:01, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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Can we please stop discussing the article in the article? Also, I have stripped the last paragraph as I do not think that it effectively adds to the story nor do I believe it could be kept without invoking some sort of POV issue. --Xanadu 07:21, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Renamed article from "gov't" in title as I think shorthand is inappropriate for a title. 119 22:08, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Dateline Poll

Regarding:

The current system for article titles has a limited shelf life. At present, there is no way of seperating out of an article when the event actually occured. This will become a problem, for instance, next time "Two bombs hit Baghdad's Green Zone", or "ETA detonates explosives in Madrid", both generic enough titles that they'll probably (unfortunately) crop up again at some point.

Therefore, this poll is to propose a way to make it mandatory for successful peer review, that an article must have the date in the title. For instance, the titles of the two above articles would be something like:

 * "ETA detonates explosives in Madrid (December 10, 2004)"
 * "(December 10, 2004) Two bombs hit Baghdad's Green Zone"

This poll does not seek to maintain what particular naming scheme we use, such as whether the date goes at the front, back, is abbreviated or not. It simply seeks to ascertain whether there is community support for taking action on this.

The Rules:

 * Must be logged onto Wikinews
 * One vote per person
 * Votes must be signed
 * Closing date of 00:00, Saturday December 18th, 2004, UTC.

Result

Proposal was rejected, 6-1.

Yes

 * 1) Lankiveil 11:47, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

No

 * 1) TalkHard 12:05, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC) - Makes title too long, and redundant to have date in both title and article. No huge rush to fix this. Better to come up with a real solution. See talk page.
 * 2) Regebro 15:54, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC) - I agree this is not a perfect solution. If two events would end up with the same title, disambiguation can be used for the time being.
 * 3) IlyaHaykinson 18:52, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC) - Some news events take days to develop, and a policy in this case is not necessary at this time
 * 4) Lyellin 19:09, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC) I agree with Ilya above. I think we can overcome this somewhat using categories, and good documentation in the article itself.
 * 5) Cap'n Refsmmat 00:00, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC) Use categories.
 * 6) Eloquence 03:53, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC) (noble goal, but the wrong approach)

Neutral

 * 1) Tomos 18:02, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC) I had this exact idea, too. Glad to know I wasn't the only one. But I did not propose it for obvious drawbacks and complications. Perhaps we can discuss a bit first and see the scope of this issue.
 * 2) The bellman 11:20, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC) Strongly Neutral I think this is an important issue, buti dont know if this is the way to solve it.

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Final match of the Chappell-Hadlee trophy washed out in Brisbane

The final one-day cricket match between Australia and New Zealand has ended with no result after the game was called off due to rain.

The lack of a result means that the inaugural Chappell-Hadlee Trophy will not be awarded, as the series was tied at one game each. In the first game, New Zealand scored a thrilling victory from behind to win with two balls to spare, while in the second game, Australia knocked New Zealand over with 17 balls to spare after a valiant fightback attempt by Kyle Mills.

Australia will next meet New Zealand in international cricket in February of 2006, when the Australian team will tour New Zealand and play three one-day internationals.

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I think a similar, but better idea would be to put the article in a folder named for the date. For example:

 * 20041210/ETA detonates explosives in Madrid

The only problem with this is it keeps the folder name as part of the title. Is there a way to not display the folder name in the title? Or could it easily be added to MediaWiki? - TalkHard 12:15, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Many events do not have a clearcut date. I suspect that any inclusion of the date in the title or folder name will be a mistake. Look for example at:
 * Yushchenko seriously ill - It spans over two months.
 * Man missing after an explosion in central Stockholm - OK, it only spans two days, and the event itself has a clear date, but you get the point.
 * Delta 4 Heavy rocket poised for maiden launch - This is written one week before the event. What date should it be?

 * And not only are these cases on where it fits. The whole idea with Wikimedia is that you can update the article at any time. Articles on Wikinews are not as articles in a paper, fixed static entities. They grow and change "organically" and *should* not have clearcut dates. That defeats the whole point of a Wiki. --Regebro 16:20, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I don't see this as an issue. There is a clearcute date which is the date the article is published. Once the article passes review, it's moved to the folder. - TalkHard 23:16, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * This is a wiki. Things do not get published. Do you mean created? Why is that more clearcut than the date the event actually happened? --Regebro 00:19, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Um, no. I mean published. What does being a wiki have to do with it? Articles do not stay in development forever. At some point they are considered finished, put through review, and then published. - TalkHard 01:55, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * No, you are wrong on all counts. See here. --Regebro 08:40, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Some arguments to consider:

Pro:
 * The workflow of news production could become more efficient if we know the dates of news from the title.
 * Look at Category:Articles in review or Workspace. You cannot tell which ones are old and which ones are new. If you frequent to Wikinews, you can tell which articles are stuk in the review process, and which ones are fresh and have some momentum. If dates are shown, then it is easier to sense that.
 * When you edit pages like Science and technology, you need to know dates of the news among other things. If the page title shows the date, it is a lot easy to list them.
 * For readers, categories without time information is not very useful. Look at Category:Science and technology. You have no clue which news happened after which one. This problem will only aggravate over time. If dates are shown along with the title, readers would find it easier navigate themselves, and find articles of their interests.

Contra:
 * We can disambiguate pages when there is a name conflict. We do not have to pre-emptively disambiguate everything.
 * Title&date makes it less intuitive, and there will inevitably a set of rules how dates should be written, use of pharenthes, etc. A consequence of this is a system which is less easy to join for newbies.

Tomos 18:25, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Some good points there.
 * The article stages as they are now are flawed, so I think we can ignore Category:Articles in review. Check out the Alternative Review Process Proposal for a better proposal. I think the articles should be added to Workspace under the date they were created, newest article first, always.
 * You are right about the categories. Maybe we should have two different types of category pages. Standard category pages, and "news category" pages that list pages accoring to when they were last edited or first created?
 * --Regebro 20:12, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Closing Date
We need a closing date for the poll, whoever started it.... Lyellin 19:11, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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Lycos Europe ends its anti-spam campaign

Lycos Europe has ended its anti-spam operation: "Make Love Not Spam." A company spokesperson said the objective of the time-limited campaign was to raise people's awareness. The reasons why it ended the campaign was variously reported and speculated in media. The operation, while fairly popular, suffered unexpected troubles and drew criticism from security experts and others from the start.

The company started distributing a screensaver on November 29, 2004 on makelovenotspam.com. Once installed, the computer would send HTTP requests to spammers' servers when not in use. The intent was to raise the running costs of those servers. Lycos coordinated these requests by choosing targets from lists generated by organizations such as Spamcop.com. The servers were monitored so as to keep them under heavy load, but alive.

Security experts roundly criticized the program. Steve Linford, director of a non-profit anti-spam organization SpamHaus, and Graham Cluley, a senior technology consultant of Sophos, pointed out that lowering moral standards to fight spammers was not a good idea. The legality of attacking the servers was also debated since it resembles "Distributed Denial of Service" attacks (DDoS), except that Lycos did not completely shut down the target servers.

Other troubles arose. The day after the campaign was launched, there was an alleged takeover of the web site's top page by a cracker. The page was replaced with a warning against the use of the screensaver, according to a screenshot sent via email to the Finnish security firm F-Secure. A Lycos spokesperson said that the screenshot was a hoax: there was no trace of intrusion in the server log and the site was simply unavailable due to a high demand.

Some Internet service providers blocked either the traffic to Lycos-Europe, or the requests generated by the screensaver.

Next, one of the targeted sites redirected all traffic to the Lycos' server, making Lycos itself a target. The company had maintained that its server was immune from the attack. Lycos stopped distributing the program on December 3, 2004 and asked clients to "stay tuned." The company later ended the program.

On December 6, F-Secure reported a virus email disguised as the anti-spam screensaver. When its attachment (a zip file) is opened, it self-extracts and installs a "Trojan horse" --harmful program disguised as legitimate software. The Trojan horse was set up to monitor keystrokes in order to steal passwords, bank account numbers and other important information.

Lycos' software had been downloaded more than 100,000 times by the end of the campaign.

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This is a follow-up of an earlier article Lycos launches screensaver to increase spammers' bills. I used fair amount of information from its talk page. Tomos 12:34, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

This article is under review currently. Here are my opinions. Note that I wrote much of the article.
 * Accuracy: as accurate as other industry publications.Two potential problems are
 * I think I have seen somewhere the # of download being nearly 10,000, not over 10,000. Where does this inconsistency come from ? I don't know.
 * Comprehensiveness: can expand more, but pretty good. Better than most articles.
 * Cronology is a bit blurry. The date of launch, official ending, and other important events are not very clear from reading the sources. Or I did not have enough cognitive capacity left to do that part of fact finding. If someone can do a small round of research to figure that out, that would be great.
 * Some sources report that two servers in China were shut down. The source for those reports is Netcraft, which to me seems to report that two servers were slowed down, but not stopped. I did not include that part in the story.
 * I wanted to find the scale of attacks conducted, like how many requests were actually send, how many people-hours it run, etc. I did not find any.
 * Neutrality: The overall focus of the article is the criticisms and troubles that the campaign produced. This leads to a kind of negaive tone. It is hard to find media coverage praising this campaign, indeed. What should we do? I did two things, which others may or may not find enough.
 * To formulate the article so that it is about "possible causes" of the campaign's end. That focus gives us a reasonable ground why troubles and criticisms are reported.
 * To state that many people downloaded the program.
 * Legality: I don't see any problem.

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Just trying to add what I can. Mainly JUDO news for now.

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Talk:Ukraine election results delayed by court

This would be fine- would nice to have a reference from when the article was actually written... which was my fault, I believe- I was working off a CNN and a BBC story, but did not reference them. Lyellin 21:28, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)


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Talk:South American Community of Nations announced at Third South American Summit

Mexico gets out of Latin America
Mexico signed the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, with which becomes impossible to this country the accession to any kind of further Latin American Union.

Declaration

 * Declaration is being called the "Cusco Declaration" as the summit took place in Cusco.
 * Full title: Declaración del Cusco sobre la Comunidad Sudamericana de Naciones III Cumbre Presidencial Sudamericana
 * Text date: "Cusco, 8 de diciembre de 2004"
 * Full text of Cusco Declaration in Spanish
 * Declaration establishes the South American Community of Nations (see Wikipedia)
 * Common market, common currency, and regional parliament--eventually.

Merger

 * SACN is a merger of two previous trade blocs and three additional countries.
 * "Mercosur or Mercosul (Spanish: Mercado Común del Sur, Portuguese: Mercado Comum do Sul, English: Southern Common Market) is a trading zone among Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay, founded in 1991. Its purpose is to promote free trade and movement of goods and peoples, skills and money, between these countries. Bolivia, Chile, Peru, Venezuela and Mexico have associate member status." Mercosur
 * "The Andean Community (in Spanish: Comunidad Andina, abbreviated CAN) is a trade bloc that comprises the South American countries of Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru and Venezuela. This trade bloc was formerly called the Andean Pact and was started with signing of the Cartagena Agreement in 1969." Andean Community
 * Other countries: Chile, Guyana, Suriname. Guyana and Suriname will not immediately join the community.
 * See Andean Community about timelime for closer cooperation between two blocs

Third South American Summit

 * "The 2004 South American Summit – the third of its kind, after earlier events in Brasília (September 2000) and Guayaquil (July 2002) – was held in Cuzco and Ayacucho, Peru, on 7–9 December 2004." South_American_Summit
 * Future: "The mechanics of the new entity should come out at the First SACN Summit, to be held in Brazil, in March or April of 2005. A constitution is also expected to be drafted in 2005. The Second Summit will be held in Bolivia." South_American_Community_of_Nations

Joint projects

 * '32' or '31' projects worth 'over US$4.2bn' or 'US$4.3bn'.
 * US$700m highway between the Atlantic and Pacific in Brazil and Peru

Statistics

 * Combined population: 366,669,975 (2003). "The region accounted for about 2.7 percent of the world's GDP (or 5.1 percent in PPP GDP) in 2003. The bloc's population totals some 360 million people (5.7% of world population) and its territory covers around 17 million km² (11.4% of world land area)." (WP)
 * GDP: US$2,635,349m (2003)
 * GDP/c: US$7,187 (2003) (NAFTA: US$30,174; US$EU: 24,249)

Quotes

 * "Sooner, rather than later, we shall have a single currency, a single passport... Sooner, rather than later, we shall have a parliament with directly elected representatives for this new nation that we are creating today." — Peruvian President Alejandro Toledo, 8 December 2004. Source unknown, from South American Community of Nations
 * ""With this new community, Latin America will be fortified." Peruvian Foreign Minister Manuel Rodriguez
 * ""We had always foreseen that this South American community would be formed through the gradual convergence of the Andean group and Mercosur," CAN secretary-general Allan Wagner told IPS."
 * "Our ultimate goal, which can hopefully be reached, in time, is the United States of South America." CAN (Andean) Secretary-General Wagner.
 * "North America has been an integrated continent since the 19th century. We have only recently begun this process ourselves. The Atlantic-Pacific gap, which doesn't exist in North America, is dramatic in South America, because of the need to cross the Andes or the Amazon." Brazilian Foreign Minister Celso Amorim.
 * "We would like nothing better than to move towards South American integration, but the worst thing we could do would be to ask a child, who has just learned to walk, to run a marathon." Chilean Foreign Ministry Director of International Economic Relations Osvaldo Rosales.
 * "We are reviving the idea of an integrated Latin America, after this objective became fragmented into various regional processes 30 years ago. Now we are going back to that original vision, through the convergence of subregional structures and within the context of globalisation." Wagner.
 * "Guarnieri told IPS that the bloc being created this week in Peru "will need a body responsible for developing programmes and proposals and monitoring progress from a technical and administrative point of view, like the executive commission of the European Union, and we have proposed that SELA serve as its basis.""
 * "This is not done against the United States, or against the European Union. This is done to have greater strength, because it is one thing to be sitting alone, individually, and another very different thing to represent the biggest integrated geographic area of the world, of about 17 million square kilometers." Head of Mercosur Commission - Duhalde
 * "No commercial agreement, even in the sphere of the WTO [World Trade Organization], sets targets. The goals always have more to do with social organization." Ênio Cordeiro, Brazilian Foreign Relations official Department

Graphics

It doesn't say where this comes from. I hope somebody here made it. It's noted in the article that Bolivia and Colombia did not sign, yet they are marked as members in the graphics. Also the label "European union" is confusing. Maybe "to European Union", or simply skip it? --Regebro 09:35, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC) yes, but it is not the European Union. Just a bit of it. A bit of France more specifically. You can just as well mark that square "France". ;) When one area belongs to another country you usually write "To", check a map of the Caribbean and look at Puerto Rico for example. It often sais "To USA" besides it. --Regebro 11:17, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:SACN_member_states.jpg
 * to European Union? What does that mean? The nation indicated is a member of the European Union.
 * Changed: Although the Bolivian and Colombian presidents attended the summit, they did not attend the signing ceremony, this instead being done by representatives. 119 09:44, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Questions/Additions
Was the summit attended by anyone from Brazil? The country is not listed in the president or prime minister list. Lyellin 06:53, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * It was attended by Lula. Fixed. 119 06:57, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I am looking for some information about it. I remember reading an Brazilian newspaper article criticizing the iniciative because the less ambitions projects (Mercosur and Andean Community ) have failed. --Carlosar 02:49, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Here are some material for research
I am puting what I could find about the subject till now. --Carlosar 04:09, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

According to AE - Estado de São Paulo, Brazilian newspaper - 08 Dec 2004 Fracasso ronda cúpula da América do Sul:
 * The third meeting of South-American Presidents in Cuzsco (Peru) had less presidents than the previous meeting. Many presidents didn't go to the event and they send mere representatives in their place.
 * reduced auditorium
 * Argentina and Uruguai presidents absentee (they alleged health problems)
 * Ecuador and Mexico absentee
 * Mercosur presidents absentee
 * Banco Nacional de Desenvolvimento Econômico e Social (BNDES) - Brazilian Development Bank - investiments in Bolivia and Ecuador are seen as financial help without return by Brazilian entrepreneurs

According to 10 Dec 2004 Países temem foco anti-EUA em bloco sul-americano - AF Folha de São Paulo, Brazilian newspaper
 * Chile, Colombia, Mexico are afraid of the SACN becoming an anti USA politic bloc. Chile, Colombia and Mexico have good economic agreements with USA, SACN could harm these relationship.

AF - Folha de São Paulo, Brazilian newspaper - 08 Oct 2004 Brasil propõe bloco entre sul-americanos
 * Brazil proposes Soulth-American bloc

(comment) The "ultimate goal, which can hopefully be reached, in time, is the United States of South America," explains Secretary General of the Andean Community Wagner.
 * Or Union of the Socialist Republics of South America ?
 * I think that's your point of view. But if you can present information that qualifies his quote, then please do so. 119
 * You are correct. It is a mere personal opinion(so cannot be published). Anyway, someone(or me if I have time) can investigate it.-- Carlosar 04:19, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Brazilian President Lula is president of the Foro de São Paulo. Look Workers' Party.

America restores a 180-year dream - Granma, Cuban Official Party  newspaper:
 * On December 9, the presidents of South America ratified the ideals of liberty, equality, justice and solidarity subscribed to by the leaders of the peoples independence struggle on this continent., etc.

Presidente de MERCOSUR defiende una Latinoamerica unida sin excluir a Cuba - Granma, Cuban Official Party:
 * El presidente de la Comisión de Representantes del Mercosur, Eduardo Duhalde, reiteró en Brasil su deseo de constituir una comunidad sudamericana que abra paso a una futura Unión Latinoamericana que agrupe a todos los países de la región, incluida Cuba- The president of the Commission of Representatives of the Mercosur, Eduardo Duhalde, reiterated in Brazil his desire to constitute a South American community that opens passage to a future Latin American Union that groups to all the countries of the region, including Cuba.

 * Granma does not seem like a worthwhile source to me. 119 04:09, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Granma maybe is a biased source, and I dont like biased sources either. But since we have accepted Al-Jahzera and Indymedia in past articles, I think it is possible using Granma too. You have to say clearly where the information is coming from and you should prevent endorse the source opinion. Using biased sources: this is a issue we should discuss soon or later if we have not did yet. --Carlosar 04:19, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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Radiobras - ABr - Brazilian Government official newspaper:
 * Meeting of presidents will create South American Community of Nations
 * South American Community of Nations incorporates twelve countries and a GDP of US$ 800 billion

What maybe is missing and could be said in some way:
 * SACN is very ambitious and difficult. Maybe little possibilities of success since other minor projects like Mercosur had problems.South America integration is difficult, great economic disputes between Argentina and Brazil for example, great diference in the economy of the countries.
 * SACN:more than an economic bloc like the SACN entusiastics say. An anti-USA bloc maybe (there are clearly an anti-USA feelling in the proposal).
 * Will Cuba be part of the SACN?

"Much abdo about nothing"?
The article seems excessively optimist about something will rather not occurr (see some critics I have put above). I think you should put some of the critics and show the difficulties of creating SACN. --- Carlosar 11:18, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Foreign language sources
What's the policy on foreign language sources? I've read lots of news articles in Spanish about this story. Are they valid references? -- Jeortiz 09:16, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * According to my check I have found no problem. I can read Portuguese and Spanish. Unless someone else find something wrong the article is ok.--Carlosar 20:42, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The article is OK
The article seems ok to me. Maybe it needs some corrections in writting, but I let this work for English speakers. -- Carlosar 20:44, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Protected edit request
Can someone please add the template? Cheers,  Daniel  05:43, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * done. –Doldrums(talk) 06:09, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


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South American Community of Nations announced at Third South American Summit

December 2004

South American nations began the creation of an international economic and legislative bloc by a declaration made at the Third South American Summit on 8 December. Named the South American Community of Nations, the organization is a step toward greater coordination among South American states.

Two existing South American trade blocs, the Andean Community (Comunidad Andina) and the Southern Common Market (Mercado Común del Sur, or Mercosur), have been combined and three previously uninvolved states included to create the community.

The summit, held between 7-9 December at Cusco and Ayacucho in Peru, was attended by heads of state from Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Guyana, Peru, Suriname, and Venezuela. Foreign ministers attended for Argentina, Ecuador, Paraguay, and Uruguay. The summit was convened principally to sign the two-page Preamble to the Foundation Act of the South American Union on the second day of the summit. Although the Bolivian and Colombian presidents attended the summit, they did not attend the signing ceremony, this instead being done by representatives. Central American states Mexico and Panama attended the ceremony as observers.

The locations for the summit were chosen for their historical significance and their association with events that reflect well on South America. Cusco was the ancient capital of the advanced civilization of the Incas. Ayachucho was the site of an 1824 decisive victory against Spanish troops by the South American independence movement headed by Simón Bolívar. The First and Second South American Summits were held at Brasília, Brazil in September 2000 and Guayaquil, Ecuador in July 2002.

The community will include every state in South America with the exception of French Guiana, itself a territory of France. Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, and Venezuela join SACN from the Andean Community, a trade bloc established in 1969. From the more recent (1991) Mercosur comes Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, and Uruguay. Guyana, Suriname, two small northeastern countries which had previously not participated in a South American trade bloc, will not immediately join the community. Chile will additionally join; it has, however, been cautious.

SACN is a more ambitious union than the previous Andean Community and Mercosur. It has been established to be more than a trade union. The "ultimate goal, which can hopefully be reached, in time, is the United States of South America," explains Secretary General of the Andean Community Wagner. A common currency, tariff-free common market, and regional parliament are all proposed in the Cusco declaration.

Many disputes exist between South American nations that may be issues in advancing SACN.

The principal force behind SACN has been Brazil. The First South American Summit was held in Brazil through the efforts of Brazilian President Fernando Henrique Cardoso.

Chile has been an associate member of Mercosur since 1996. It was a member of the Andean Community from its inception in 1969, but withdrew six years later when ruled by General Augusto Pinochet. With 70% of its GDP attributed to foreign trade, Chile has traditionally favored relations with the United States or the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum over South American agreements.

SACN's short-term political and economic effects may be limited. The elimination of all trade tariffs has long been a goal of both the Andean Community and Mercosur, but has had little success.

However, 32 construction projects were approved at the summit. Worth US$4.3bn over five years, the projects focus on improving regional infrastructure. The largest is a US$700m road highway that will link Brazil and Peru across the Andes mountains. "These are anchor projects that will be carried out over five years," said Wagner. "They were chosen because they do not serve merely as corridors between countries and zones, but also as a means of promoting development in border regions, which have traditionally been the poorest and most marginalised in our countries." Wagner identifies 350 potential infrastructure projects of a combined cost of US$200bn.

Details of the South American Community of Nations are expected to be planned further at the first First SACN Summit in March or April of 2005 in Brazil. Work on a constitution is expected to begin in 2005. A Second SACN Summit of unspecified date is to be held in Bolivia.


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Nobel Peace Prize awarded to Kenyan environmental activist

December 10, 2004

— The 2004 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded today to from Kenya. She is the first African woman to win the Peace prize, and the 12th woman to win the prize since its inception in 1901. The Nobel committee cited "her contribution to sustainable development, democracy and peace" as the reasons for awarding the prize. It is the first Peace prize awarded to an environmentalist.

Dr Maathai is a member of parliament in Kenya, the country's deputy environmental minister, and holds a in  from the University of Nairobi. For seven years she was the director of the in Kenya, and is most known for founding the  — a non-governmental organization dedicated to environmental conservation and protecting forests. Since its founding in 1997, the organization claims to have planted over 30 million trees, in the process employing thousands of women — offering them empowerment, education and even family planning.

The GBM organises rural women in Kenya to participate in environmentally friendly activities such as reforestation; economically-conducive activities like eco-tourism and training in forestry and food processing; as well as community development.

On her Green Belt Movement project, Dr Maathai told the Courier in 1999, "If you want to save the environment, you should protect the people first, because human beings are part of biological diversity. And if we can't protect our own species, what's the point of protecting tree species?"

In accepting the prize, Dr Maathai said that she was humbled by the recognition and uplifted by the honor of receiving the award, and discussed social and environmental problems that still challenge Africa and the rest of the world. The award includes a cash component of 10 million Swedish Kronor (approximately US$1.4 million).

Dr Maathai's project was opposed by the Kenyan government during 's rule, and Dr Maathai's demonstrations to protect the forests often met with violent resistance; eventually, she was jailed.

"The government thinks that by threatening me and bashing me they can silence me," Dr Maathai said. "But I have an elephant's skin and somebody must raise their voice."

In 1997 Dr Maathai ran for president on the Liberal Party of Kenya ticket. In 2002 — after Moi's party lost the presidential race — she was elected to Parliament, and was appointed deputy minister of environment for the new government the next year, a position she holds today.


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Requests
The weather reports look great and I'd love to use them on Wikitravel — but I don't support there's any way to get this to run without .NET? Even non-interactively, so it could sit on a Linux server somewhere? Jpatokal 10:16, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * We could just add WikiTravel to the list of sites that are automatically updated by the WeatherBot. WeatherChecker already directs the WeatherBot to update another wiki site other than Wikinews.

 * If you want to host a weather report page on Wikitravel, just copy the Weather pages from here on Wikinews, including the linked templates, and we can just add the URLs for WikiTravel's copy of the "CurWeatherMapImage" template, as well as WikiTravel's image upload page. WeatherChecker would then start updating WikiTravel just like any other site automatically, whenever the hourly reports are in service. (Sometimes WeatherChecker and WeatherBot are down when the server load is too high.)

 * If you're unsure how to set up the weather pages, just let me know and I'll be glad to help you out.

 * We don't use server-side controls, partly to avoid putting additional load on the Wikimedia servers, but mostly because I doubt we could convince the developers to permit it even if we implemented them, so a Linux version is kind of a moot point. In the current implementation, the work is all done on the local client on which WeatherChecker is left running. — DV 10:52, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the offer! I'll set up a test page or two and see if we can get this working.  Ideally Wikitravel would feature weather reports for every country or major region...  Jpatokal 18:41, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Sounds good. I just added the Southeast Asia region last evening. We might not cover every country, but we're getting close to covering every major region. — DV 12:57, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Map request
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