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Talk:Wikinews interviews Molossian president Kevin Baugh on his country's recent intermicronational summit

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molossia@molossia.orgJoseph, Greetings. I would be quite pleased to do an interview for Wikinews, ... 10:35 AM (4 hours ago)

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Joseph, Greetings.

I would be quite pleased to do an interview for Wikinews, as always, and it is an honor to have you ask.

My only concern is time. I will be traveling the next few days, and will not actually be able to answer any interview questions until Friday evening.

Although I suspect otherwise, if that timeframe is acceptable, then by all means send your questions on to me. If not, then you have my apologies and my regrets.

I look forward to hearing from you again.

Warmest regards, His Excellency President Kevin Baugh, Republic of Molossia

Original Message: - From: Joseph Ford homevideopictures@gmail.com Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:49:10 -0400 To: president@molossia.org Subject: Vikesland Summit

President Baugh,

Continuing my series of articles on Molossia for Wikinews, I was about to write one about the state visit you had with Prince Christopher I and Princess Erin of Vikesland over this past weekend. However, I soon realized that I would basically be re-wording what you had posted on Molossia.org. Seeing as the interviews I've done with you have attracted quite a following, much more than the articles in my opinion, I was wondering if I could do a short email interview with you on how the meeting went and how it might impact the intermicronational community. If you are interested, please reply with a "yes" or "no" within 24 hours.

Thanks for your time, Joseph Ford (Also known as WNewsReporter on Wikinews)

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That's fine, President Baugh. Here are the questions: Q: Briefly summarize the events of the summit. (Please no more than one paragraph) Q: Tell us about how the summit with the Royal Family (Prince Christopher I and Princess Erin) will have an impact on the intermicronational community. Q: This is the second time this year that the leader of another micronation has officially visited the Republic of Molossia. Will Molossia be hosting anymore summits or state visits in the near future? Q: What is the current state of the intermicronational community? Q: How is the revitalization of the League of Small Nations, a nearly defunct organization dedicated to the prosperity of all land claiming micronations, coming along? Thanks again for all your time. - Show quoted text -

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:35 AM, molossia@molossia.org  wrote:

Joseph, Greetings.

I would be quite pleased to do an interview for Wikinews, as always, and it is an honor to have you ask.

My only concern is time. I will be traveling the next few days, and will not actually be able to answer any interview questions until Friday evening.

Although I suspect otherwise, if that timeframe is acceptable, then by all means send your questions on to me. If not, then you have my apologies and my regrets.

I look forward to hearing from you again.

Warmest regards, His Excellency President Kevin Baugh, Republic of Molossia

Original Message: - From: Joseph Ford homevideopictures@gmail.com Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:49:10 -0400 To: president@molossia.org Subject: Vikesland Summit

President Baugh,

Continuing my series of articles on Molossia for Wikinews, I was about to write one about the state visit you had with Prince Christopher I and Princess Erin of Vikesland over this past weekend. However, I soon realized that I would basically be re-wording what you had posted on Molossia.org. Seeing as the interviews I've done with you have attracted quite a following, much more than the articles in my opinion, I was wondering if I could do a short email interview with you on how the meeting went and how it might impact the intermicronational community. If you are interested, please reply with a "yes" or "no" within 24 hours.

Thanks for your time, Joseph Ford (Also known as WNewsReporter on Wikinews)

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Joseph, answers follow.

Thank you again.

President Baugh.

Original Message: - From: Joseph Ford homevideopictures@gmail.com

Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:55:15 -0400 To: president@molossia.org Subject: Re: Vikesland Summit

That's fine, President Baugh. Here are the questions:

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 * Q: Briefly summarize the events of the summit.* (Please no more than one

Prince Christopher and Princess Erin arrived on Friday morning, June 27th, 2008. We held a brief ceremony in Republic Square, wherein I awarded Prince Christopher the Order of the Mustang and he awarded me the Order of Vikesland. After that, I took the Royal Family on a tour of Molossia and we spent the rest of the day dicussing micronational matters in Norton Park. On Saturday the 28th, we all traveled to Donner Lake in the Sierras, and took part in Joint Naval Maneuvers, followed by a tour of Lake Tahoe. On Sunday, June 29th, Prince Christopher and I took part in a Joint Rocket Project, in which we each launched a rocket respresentative of our respective nations. The summit and visit of the Vikeslandic Royal family was a great success, and great deal of fun as well.

and Princess Erin) will have an impact on the intermicronational community.*
 * Q: Tell us about how the summit with the Royal Family (Prince Christopher I

I think that this summit, along with that in April with Grand Duke Paul of Greifenberg, shows that the ties between micronations are strong. We all share a similar vision, although with different perspectives. I hope that these two summits demonstrate how people from different walks of life and from across the world can come together, exchange ideas and thereby contribute the growth of their nations and communities.
 * Q: This is the second time this year that the leader of another micronation
 * Q: This is the second time this year that the leader of another micronation

has officially visited the Republic of Molossia. Will Molossia be hosting

anymore summits or state visits in the near future?* I don't actually have any planned at this point, but one never knows what the future will bring. Each day affords new opportunities and new ideas, and my door is always open to any micronationalist and indeed any person interested in micronationlism.

 * Q: What is the current state of the intermicronational community?*

I think that micronationalism has had its up and downs over the years, and as a pastime it is not quite as active as it was around the turn of the century. Activity has certainly leveled off, but there are still many, many micronations out there, with new ones being founded every day. I believe that right now there are more serious nation-projects going now than there ever have been, and I look forward to seeing what might be coming next.
 * Q: How is the revitalization of the League of Small Nations, a nearly
 * Q: How is the revitalization of the League of Small Nations, a nearly

defunct organization dedicated to the prosperity of all land claiming

micronations, coming along?*

It is proceeding well, I think. An online meeting is tentatively scheduled for August or September, to ratify the Charter. After that, the serious business of advancing micronationalism will begin, with a proposed micronational postal union, and possibly joint support of a real-world charity, in the name of the League. As demonstrated by the two summits Molossia has hosted this year, many positive things can take place when micronationalists come together, and I think the League of Small Nations is just the venue to make these things happen.

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On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:35 AM, molossia@molossia.org < molossia@molossia.org> wrote:

> Joseph, Greetings. > > I would be quite pleased to do an interview for Wikinews, as always, and it > is an honor to have you ask. > > My only concern is time. I will be traveling the next few days, and will > not actually be able to answer any interview questions until Friday > evening. > > Although I suspect otherwise, if that timeframe is acceptable, then by all > means send your questions on to me. If not, then you have my apologies and > my regrets. > > I look forward to hearing from you again. > > Warmest regards, > His Excellency President Kevin Baugh, > Republic of Molossia > > > Original Message: > - > From: Joseph Ford homevideopictures@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 00:49:10 -0400 > To: president@molossia.org > Subject: Vikesland Summit > > > President Baugh, > > Continuing my series of articles on Molossia for Wikinews, I was about to > write one about the state visit you had with Prince Christopher I and > Princess Erin of Vikesland over this past weekend. However, I soon realized > that I would basically be re-wording what you had posted on Molossia.org. > Seeing as the interviews I've done with you have attracted quite a > following, much more than the articles in my opinion, I was wondering if I > could do a short email interview with you on how the meeting went and how > it > might impact the intermicronational community. If you are interested, > please > reply with a "yes" or "no" within 24 hours. > > Thanks for your time, > Joseph Ford > (Also known as WNewsReporter on Wikinews) > >

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User:Mike Halterman/Story preparation/Åse Kleveland

Wikinews is preparing for an interview in the upcoming weeks with Åse Kleveland, a popular Norwegian folk singer, who was the Minister of Culture in Norway from 1990 to 1996, and president of the Swedish Film Institute from 2000 to 2006. She is currently head of the Norwegian Humanist Organization. In addition to more professional endeavors, she is also known for representing Norway in the Eurovision Song Contest in 1966, and hosting Norway's first Eurovision in 1986.

Please add questions below, using the sections to indicate which project the questions are being asked from.

Cross-posted for assistance at the Water Cooler (en.wikinews), Bybrunnen (sv.wikipedia), and Tinget (no.wikipedia). Mike Halterman (talk) 20:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Also cross-posted to Landsbybrønden (da.wikipedia), Kahvihuone (fi.wikipedia), Potturinn (is.wikipedia), and Samfunnshuset (nn.wikipedia). Mike Halterman (talk) 22:33, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Now cross-posted by other users to the French and Greek Wikipedias. Mike Halterman (talk) 09:30, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Now mentioned on the Wikipedia Signpost at en.wikipedia (link) Anonymous101 (talk) 20:02, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

To add questions, please make a subheader under your home project. If your home project is not listed, please make a normal header to list your project, and then make a subheader with your user name. From there, you can ask your questions.

From User:Aleichem

 * What are your views about the Danish Westergaard cartoons, the Dutch Fitna-movie and freedom of speech and expression in general?

From User:Thor NL

 * How do you feel about the way the Eurovision Song Contest has progressed over the past ten years? Do you feel winning is no longer dependent on the quality of the song, but visual aesthetics and attention-grabbing gimmicks?
 * This year, in her quest to win the Democratic party nomination, Hillary Clinton said, "It ain't over till the lady in the pantsuit says it is." Considering you know pantsuits all too well (choosing to wear one instead of a dress at Eurovision 1966), do you feel it's about time for a woman to take the presidency in the United States, or do you think Clinton's failure to reach the nomination was because America is not ready for a female president?
 * A government commission in the Netherlands just two weeks ago proposed to extend foreign language teaching to 3 and 4 year olds, not just in English. They stated that they were convinced that children at this age could easily pick up three or four different languages without any problem whatsoever. As a former culture minister dealing with the preservation of a minority language in Europe, do you expect such small languages to eventually disappear altogether as the European Union evolves towards ever-closer "unity"?
 * On that note, do you feel that Norway should be a member of the European Union? If so, why; if not, why not?

From User:Advance

 * Considering the complaints of decreasing quality and bloc voting, do you believe the nations of Western Europe should just split off from the Eurovision Song Contest and make one of their own?

From User:MoiraMoira

 * As a former minister for culture how are your views on the European culture policy and what should the role of the European Union be in view of stimulating arts in general? What do you see as hindrances and challenges in this field?
 * How do you see the future of Europe in view of humanism and what role should be played by politicians and artists in creating a more tolerant and open atmosphere?

From User:oscar

 * Both as a Wikimedian and as an artist, I strive for communication and inclusiveness and firmly believe in intercultural dialogue as the way towards a worldwide communication of cultures: knowledge is a process. I see an ongoing process of intercultural dialogue as a prerequisite for a world peace as well. What are your views regarding this, especially taking into account your view of the (in my opinion, outdated) second article of the Norwegian Constitution? How do you plan, as head of HEF, to foster intercultural dialogue?

From User:Ellywa

 * Note for Åse Kleveland: These questions were asked by Elly Waterman, Chairwoman of the Board of Wikimedia Nederland

 * As a former minister of culture, and as the former president of the Swedish Film Institute, what are your views on copyright issues?
 * What is your opinion about the fact that all works remain copyrighted until 70 years after the death of the maker? What is the impact of this on the current culture through the new media such as the internet? Does this prohibit the exchange of knowledge between peoples?
 * What do you think should be the copyright status of works which are made through public funding?
 * What would be your advice on this to current policy makers in Norway or within Europe?

From User:Cimon Avaro

 * In the article we have on you, there is an image of you speaking at Constitution Day wearing a traditional Norwegian ethnic dress. What kind of connection do you have with traditional sacred music?
 * I should comment that the traditional Bunad is practically a Constitution Day uniform. :) What kind of sacred music do you mean? Christian, or before that? :) Toresbe (talk) 12:20, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I asked him and he meant traditional folk music (as she is known for that). Mike Halterman (talk) 01:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

From User:Henrik

 * The civil confirmation organised by HEF is one of the the most widespread non-religions alternative to Christian confirmation in the world. What has made HEF so successful in Norway?

 * Sweden just passed a sweeping wire-tapping bill. As a humanist, what are your feelings about the increasing surveillance and other curtailment of freedoms passed in western societies in response to religious extremist attacks in recent years?

From User:Kingturtle

 * In what ways did World War II affect your parents? What lessons of life did they impart on you based on their World War II experiences?

 * What is the story that led to your becoming the Minister of Culture?

 * What do you feel were your greatest accomplishments as the Minister of Culture? In hindsight, what do you wish you could have done but didn't?

 * Did you have the opportunity to meet Ingmar Bergman? Do you think he ever recovered from the 1976 arrest? Has the Ingmar Bergman Prize been a successful venture?

 * What in your opinion continues to prevent most Swedish films from breaking through into U.S. cinema? What U.S. directors have been the most influential on Swedish filmmakers?

 * Is the tolerance movement regarding homosexuals a success in Sweden? What in your eyes still needs to be worked on?

 * What is Norway doing to address its rise in immigrant populations? What recommendations would you make regarding the issue?

 * What is the role of government in education?

 * When is the last time you sang as a performer and what did you sing? When will you sing as a performer again?

From User:Scarian

 * Have you ever considered sharing your obvious knowledge of Norwegian folk music on any Wiki?

From User:Oskar Sigvardsson

 * There are people who have expressed the opinion that Swedish cinema haven't really "recovered" since Ingmar Bergman stopped making movies, that there hasn't really been anyone that have been able to step into his place to produce movies with that high quality. Is this something you believe can change, or was he just one of those one-in-a-billion filmmakers and we are likely not to ever see anyone of that talent again?

 * How do you see in the future for Swedish cinema? Will there be overwhelmingly small-budget "kitchen sink dramas" or a move towards more big budget epics, like the Arn-films? Is there a viable international market for such films, that would justify their large cost?

From User:Brianmc

 * Do you think Terry Wogan threatening to give up commentating the Eurovision will be detrimental to the event in the UK?

From User:SVTCobra

 * As culture minister you oversaw the Norwegian Media Authority (Medietilsynet) which was then three agencies: Statens filmtilsyn, Eierskapstilsynet and Statens medieforvaltning. Do you agree with Tom Løland's 2003 decision to lift Norway's ban on violent movies? If so, why do you think it took so long?

From User:Anonymous101

 * Four of your singles were released in Japanese. What made you decide to record in this language instead of your native language?

From User:Ral315

 * What is your favorite song?
 * Over your lifetime, you've done a variety of work in various fields. What would you say is your greatest achievement in life?

From User:Bastique

 * How do you think Eurovision compares with national shows, like American Idol? How does it differ, in your mind?

From User:Mike Halterman

 * I helped organize this interview, and in my interactions with the European users who know of your achievements, you were compared to the pioneering Greek Culture Minister Melina Mercouri by more than one person. As you have a similarly high profile in Scandinavia comparable to the late Ms. Mercouri's reputation in Greece, did you feel that your work as Culture Minister went more smoothly because you were a noted public figure in your own right beforehand, or do you feel that made your job more difficult? Did you feel you wanted to prove yourself as a Culture Minister and not have to rest on your laurels from your past career in music?
 * Relating to Melina Mercouri, she first envisioned the idea of the European Capitals of Culture. As you know, Stavanger and Sandnes were recognized by the EU as two of the three European Capitals of Culture for 2008. As this is only second year in which Norwegian cities hold this title, do you feel that Norway has been overlooked by the European Union in terms of the country's cultural heritage? Do you feel Norway's lack of member status in the EU is a factor in Norwegian cities failing to be chosen as often as cities in other European nations?
 * You helped give the singer Deeyah national exposure in 1992 while you were Minister of Culture. How do you feel about Deeyah's success despite the odds that were placed against her? How do you feel about Deeyah's choice to leave with her family to the UK from Norway after being physically harassed? What can be done for Norway to be inclusive of its Muslim community while still fostering dialogue and letting it known that death threats against Westernized Muslim girls like Deeyah is not acceptable?

From User:Str4nd

 * What's your favorite movie? Do you prefer Swedish movies to American movies?
 * What did you think about the Finnish act Lordi winning the Eurovision Song Contest a couple of years ago?

From User:Hégésippe Cormier

 * As former Minister of Culture of Norway, and left-wing politician, have you heard or read something about the huge works of † Tron Øgrim (who you probably have known, maybe personnally), during the 17 months he has spent, as Bruker:Tronogrim, on Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia?
 * Especially about the five thousands contributions (1) he has made during this time, helping to bring, day after day, more knowledges to Norwegian speakers, about Nepal politics, culture and administration, or about constructed languages? (1) 95% of those contributions having been made in (main) namespace, which means for the encyclopedic articles, leaving a little space for discussions with other users, and keeping his energy for the “encyclopedic” works.
 * Then, what do you you think about this big wave of knowledges coming to all the people?
 * And, at last, what is your opinion about those who work to help this wave to come everywhere, and about their innervisions?

From User:kulac

 * Note for Åse Kleveland: This question was asked by Kurt Kulac, Chairman of the Board of Wikimedia Österreich

 * How strong is folk music supported by the Norwegian government and is there a difference in terms of the support of folk music to "modern" music?

From User:Codeispoetry

 * A month ago Varg Vikernes was denied parole after 14 years of imprisonment. What do you think about his sentence?
 * During your time as minister, members of the Norwegian black metal scene committed crimes like arsons, ending up in two murders. What led to this violence?
 * Among the Inner Circle of Black Metal musicians, homophobia, antisemitism and racism were widely spread. What were the reactions of the Norwegian public on this wave of intolerance? How is the situation in Norway these days?
 * Another main topic of the black metal scene were satanism and paganism. What is the role of religion and old religions in Norway nowadays?
 * There are notable efforts of pop musicians to include elements of traditional music. Is the music of people like Mari Boine, or even heavy metal groups like Finntroll or Korpiklaani a way to preserve folk culture?
 * How is the situation of Sami people in Norway and the other Scandinavian nations nowadays?
 * Would a membership of Norway in the European Union make it more difficult to preserve the local culture of Norway? Or even help preserving it? Is that a topic in the public discussion?
 * Copyright was a core theme of your study. What to you think on the future of intellectual property? How does the wiki principle influence the future of copyright and authorship?

From User:Mbimmler

 * Note for Åse Kleveland: This question was asked by Michael Bimmler, Chairman of the Board of Wikimedia CH (Switzerland)

 * When reading your biography, I learnt that you have started to perform on an international level very early in your life. Was this a positive experience for you? If a teenager (say, 14-17) asked you whether he/she should start performing (and travelling for performances) or whether he/she should complete secondary education first, what would your advice be? Do you think that participating in the global music/show business too early can have negative impacts, if yes, why do you think so?
 * According to the Wikipedia article on you, you are fluent in 5 different languages, amongst them languages as different as English and Japanese. What made you learn that many languages and how did you manage to do so?

From User:Kju

 * The digital age bears some major challenges for the media industry. In the fear of piracy most media outlets have introduced techniques like copy protection, digital right management etc. which apparently do not work very well but restrict the ways in which the buying customers can use the media severely. Lately some companies have decided to get rid of such measures and provide e.g. music without any protection. Some artists also feel that piracy might not (only) be a threat to them but will also work in favor of their publicity which will ultimately even increase their sales numbers. Whats your stance on the whole issue?

From User:Stef Mec

 * What do you think that the ethnic music can offer in the spread of popular culture to the young, increasingly attracted by English-speaking music?
 * How do you think that the ethnic music of various nations, and especially Scandinavian and Italian, very rooted in the population, may partly counteract the "new music"?

From User:bombadil

 * Note for Åse Kleveland: These questions were asked by Marius Helgå, Chairman of the Board of Wikimedia Norge

 * In the current project "Hele Norge synger" (All of Norway sings), you're trying to get the Norwegians to sing. Do you feel you succeed at this?
 * Do you have any thoughts on the importance of the preservation of our audiovisual heritages through conservation and digitizing?
 * Do you have the impression that the Stavanger/Sandnes region has used their marketing potential from being European Culture Capital 2008 in a good way, or are there things they could have done better?

From User:Atluxity

 * Who is your all-time favorite politician, and why?
 * What nation do you think has the most beautiful traditional ethnic dress?

From User:Harald Haugland

 * Do you have time for singing anymore?
 * What did Ballade! mean to you as far as your career was concerned?
 * How come Ballade! did not go on longer than it did?
 * Do you have any contact with the Ballade! people any more?
 * What are your ties to Evje, where your father came from?

From User:Kagee

 * How do you, as leader of Human-Etisk Forbund, think the norwegian church will change after Stortingsmelding 17 (Staten og Den norske kirke) / Kirkeforliket ?
 * What do you think about the current connection between the Norwegian church, and the Norwegian schools?
 * Do you believe the Norwegian monarchy should be abolished? If so, what should replace it?

From User:Alvestrand

 * Where were you when Bobbysocks won the Melodi Grand Prix?
 * Was it difficult for Gro Harlem Brundtland to decide to divide the Culture ministry from the Church ministry when you came on board as culture minister? Were other alternatives considered?

Submitted anonymously

 * The user who wrote these questions asked to remain anonymous.

 * You were born in a time where it was more usual for children to be baptized and maintain some kind of bond with the church. How did you go about becoming a humanist? Was it a long process?
 * In Norway, many cities seem to let older buildings (from the late 19th and early 20th centuries) fall into dereliction, label them not worth salvaging, and demolish them. These structures, in many instances, have been replaced by buildings constructed in concrete, steel and glass. Do you feel at least some of these buildings should be preserved on the spot they were built to give Norway a sense of ancestry? What more do you feel you could have done while you were Minister of Culture to preserve these older buildings?

From User:Powerek38

 * From your knowledge as the former Minister of Culture, is there any co-operation between the Norwegian museums and the local Wikimedia community? Are the Wikimedians allowed to take photos of the exhibits (especially those in public domain) to be able to publish them on Commons and other projects?
 * I doubt she will be able to answer that as she was the Minister of Culture only until 1996! Toresbe (talk) 12:22, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Having worked there (in the Ministry) for 6 years, she certainly still has some interest in this field and she may know this. That's my hope at least :) In fact we've been talking about this question at the mailing list of the Wikimedia Polska (Poland's local chapter), because we have a problem that the Polish museums don't allow this and we would like to know what's the situation in other countries. Anyway, that's just an idea and final decision what to ask about is up to the interviewer. Powerek38 (talk) 14:31, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

From User:flrn

 * How can the current Russo-Scandinavian relations (especially between the Nordic countries and Russia's Northern European regions: Karelia and Murmansk) be improved?
 * Nowadays, Europe has many immigrants. They arrived from many countries which have their own unique cultures. What is the Norwegian government currently doing to make sure immigrants' cultures are respected?

From User:Botella

 * What is your view about Latin American culture?
 * Who are your favourite Latin American artists, if you have any?

From User:Hannibal

 * Note for Åse Kleveland: These questions were asked by Lennart Guldbrandsson, Chairman of the Board of Wikimedia Sverige

 * You used to be Managing Director of the Swedish Film institute. What do you feel were the most challenging aspects of that job?
 * At the SFI, what kind of initiatives did you start? Which projects are you particularly proud of?
 * Some critics have claimed [weasel terms here, but I think that she knows what I am talking about] that the SFI have funded too many projects made by already established directors and producers, instead of trying to find new talents. Do you think that is a valid description? If so, what can be done about it?
 * During the 2005 Guldbagge awards, there was a big controversy. It turned out that the jury hadn't seen all the 33 films and thus only nominated three films for the awards. What are your recollections of these events? What happened internally at the Film institute afterwards?
 * Which of the Guldbagge winners for best film during your years as Managing Director did you like best?
 * 1999 Tsatsiki, morsan och polisen
 * 2000 Sånger från andra våningen
 * 2001 Så vit som en snö
 * 2002 Lilja 4-ever
 * 2003 Ondskan
 * 2004 Masjävlar
 * 2005 Ninas resa
 * 2006 Förortsungar

From User:Ainali

 * As the head of the HEF how do you think you could use Wikipedia to serve your goals?
 * How do you think Wikipedia, and/or the use of it, will change over the next few years?

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Comments:Man kills five police officers in Shanghai

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Alleged Motive for Attack
There are allegations that the attack was an act of revenge. The attacker accuses the police of having beaten him during a past interrogation, ultimately leaving him infertile due to trauma sustained to his genitalia. The stigma of infertility in Chinese society is tantamount to that of divorce in Chinese society--namely that he has no chance of marrying or starting a family after the fact.


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Comments:Counter-terrorism agents search home in suburban Chicago, Illinois

Terrorism? God, I'm sick of that freaking buzzword. This isn't counter-terrorism! This is counter-violence! 24.56.51.114

 * You know what, I of all people agree. The word "terrorism" has been overused and lost just about all of its meaning. QUINTIX (talk) 01:59, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Libel case against Wikimedia Foundation dismissed

Wikimedia's attorney is Mike Godwin? Does....ugh, I'm sorry.....does he follow Godwin's Law? Fephisto (talk) 15:21, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I can just imagine it in court "And the defendant, hereby, is declared no-" "Shut the `@%* up, you fascist Nazi!" "Mr. Godwin, excuse me?" 24.56.51.114 15:37, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Mike is the original author of Godwin's law. From what I've heard about it, it was an exercise in memetics; obviously, a very successful one since so many people online have heard of it. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:17, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

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It appears pretty detailed, and explanatory. Side note, I'm glad it worked out. Trying to suppress legitimate negative press of yourself is a reprehensible thing... 68.39.174.238 21:25, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * However this also makes impossible to control/dissuade a third party that publishes defamatory allegations on the wikipedia pages. A sad moment when people are not considered liable anymore for what they say...
 * Bullshit. I suggest you actually read the article. The WMF is not a legally viable target. The author is. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:41, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

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This is a lot of bs. Tell it to the parents of the kids who hang themselves in closets every day. Wikipedia is for gutter rats. Judge Perri is one of the dumbest judges in New Jersey. —173.220.125.58 (talk) 19:38, 19 September 2010 (UTC)


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Suspect in eight murders arrested in Illinois, United States

July 2, 2008

Following a manhunt in two states, police have arrested Nicholas Troy Sheley whom authorities suspect in eight murders in the United States. The FBI launched the manhunt on Tuesday after four victims were discovered on June 30, 2008.

Sheley was arrested without incident after being recognized in a bar in Granite City, Illinois. Two regular customers, Gary Range and Samantha Butler, and bartender Jennifer Lloyd recognized Sheley who had entered and ordered a glass of water. Range told the Associated Press that he then found a police officer parked nearby.

"I told [the police officer] the description and the officer said, 'That's him.' He got on the radio and eventually there were police all over the place," Range said.

According to Sgt. Thomas J. Burek, Illinois State Police, the FBI, and the St. Louis Major Crimes Task Force, Sheley was apprehended without a struggle. He was arrested when he stepped out of the bar to have a cigarette and found himself surrounded.

"He was desperate and he gave up without a fight," said Tim Lewis, police chief in Festus, Missouri. "He looks rough. He's had a rough two days."

Sheley is being held at Madison County Jail in Edwardsville. He appeared before County Judge Edward Ferguson and was charged with first-degree murder, aggravated battery and vehicular hijacking in the case of Ronald Randall. The 65-year old victim was beaten to death in Galesburg, Illinois on Saturday and found on Monday. Sheley is being held on US$1 million bail, which he indicated he would be unable to post.

Sheley's cousin, Eric Smith, is being held on obstruction of justice charges, while Sheley's brother, Josh Sheley, is being charged with concealing a homicidal death and obstructing justice.

Sheley's wife and uncle have both told reporters that Sheley, 28, is addicted to drugs and alcohol and prone to violence when under the influence of these substances.

Nicholas Sheley will also be charged with the murder of 93-year old Russell Reed in Sterling, Illinois, said the Whiteside County prosecutor. Medical examiners estimate that Reed was killed on June 23.

On Monday, the bodies of Brock Branson, 29, and Kenneth Ulve Jr., 25, of Rock Falls, Illinois along with Kilynna Blake, 20, and Dayan Blake, 2, of Cedar City, Utah were found. Police say that Sheley knew both Branson and Ulwe. The two were found in an apartment in Rock Falls and are believed to have died late Saturday or early Sunday.

Tom and Jill Estes of Sherwood, Arkansas were found in Festus, Missouri at a Comfort Inn, also on Monday. They were found after another guest at the hotel reported two dogs covered in blood in the parking lot. The couple had been visiting the area for a graduation and family reunion. Although 250 miles (400 km) away, this case was linked after Sheley's fingerprints were found in Randall's truck which was abandoned in Festus.

All eight victims succumbed to blunt force trauma.


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I could translate french or spanish, although someone would have to go through my translation to correct my mistakes. Anonymous101 (talk) 20:30, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
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Mongolia declares state of emergency after violent protests, five people killed

July 2, 2008 A four-day state of emergency has been declared in the capital of Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar after violent protests occurred after allegations of vote rigging and fraud in Sunday's elections. Reports state that 5 people have been killed, and over 300 injured. The injured were police and protesters alike, suffering from smoke poisoning, rubber bullets, and stoning. Among the injured was a Japanese citizen, who was reportedly flown to Japan in the morning. Peaceful protests began on Monday evening, however, they were dispersed in the night. The protests on Tuesday began peacefully on Sukhbaatar Square, however as they moved toward the headquarters of ruling party Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party, they were joined by many more people, who began attacking the building with stones, knocking out the windows.

Riot police were deployed, and as the protests escalated with protesters setting the building on fire with alcoholic beverages and petrol, they reacted with tear gas and rubber bullets. As the Party Headquarters was almost completely set ablaze, the protesters began looting the vicinity, with reports of bank robberies. A wooden extension to the nearby Culture Palace, also known as the Art Gallery, also caught fire, with many priceless artifacts either looted or damaged by fire and water. As the police and army were deployed, about 700 protesters were detained.

In the aftermath, a four-day state of emergency was declared in Ulaanbaatar by President Nambaryn Enkhbayar. Measures include:
 * All protests or demonstrations are banned
 * The city center will be sealed off, with a curfew between 10pm and 8am
 * All TV channels and radios except the Mongolian National Broadcaster will be temporarily shut down.
 * No alcohol will be sold or consumed.
 * Use of weapons or any object capable of causing bodily harm will be banned.

Preliminary election results indicated that the MPRP had a clear majority in parliament.

Police chief said on the state TV that the situation is now under control, but it should be necessary to leave armored vehicles and the troops on their current positions in the capital. An emergency session of parliament also began at around 18:00 Local Time (July 2), however the session was closed to the media by vote, with the basis of high levels of tension erupting in case of disagreements during the session.

All TV channels have been cut off except for the Mongolian National Broadcaster. However some, like Eagle TV, and other internet-based news sites have been reporting on the Internet. A video on their site shows interviews with citizens claiming that their relatives have been detained while coming home from work, although having no part in the protests. The interviewees also allege that the investigators are brutally detaining them. The Government has made no reports about this.

The four days of emergency rule will be the first in the history of Mongolia.


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Nelson Mandela taken off US terrorist list

July 2, 2008 Nelson Mandela has officially been taken off the US list of terrorists by the United States government. This comes after a statement by Condoleezza Rice, the US Secretary of State, who said that it was a "rather embarrassing matter that I still have to waive in ... the great leader Nelson Mandela," back in April.

The ruling, which also applied to all members of the African National Congress means that Mandela can travel to the United States without being approved by the Secretary of State.

Nelson Mandela has recently been in the media due to his upcoming 90th birthday. As part of the celebrations, a concert was held in Hyde Park, attended by many influential politicians, including Bill Clinton, former US president.

Nelson Mandela was a campaigner against apartheid who served one term as president of South Africa.

Last week the government of North Korea was removed from the list of State Sponsors of Terrorism. This announcement was made as a reward to North Korea for turning over all documents related to its controversial nuclear program. Pyongyang turned over to China documents related to its plutonium core and waste activities.


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Talk:Suspect in eight murders arrested in Illinois, United States

what does arkansas have to do with this? --72.87.59.241 15:52, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * at least one victim is from there--SVTCobra 16:31, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Any idea when this will be published i hope it does not end up abandoned --72.87.59.241 21:43, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

ok thanks --72.87.59.241 22:35, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Sorry it took so long, but I was at work ... so when duty called I had to take a break from editing. Wikinews doesn't pay. --SVTCobra 23:21, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

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Now I am from Illinois, and knew someone that helped Nicholas Sheley, and yet not in any articles have I seen her name. I don't know if it is cause she told the police that she was scared for her life because of him, but they dated for a while and if she was scared of him she never let it be shown before. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.90.182.105 (talk • contribs) 05:52, 6 January 2013


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I don't care how ABC News worded it, Nelson Mandela and North Korea were never on the same list. One is a person, the other is a country. --SVTCobra 16:19, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for correcting the article . Anonymous101 (talk) 16:21, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

The entire ANC (the ruling party in South Africa who received nearly 66% of the vote) was listed as a terrorist organization - that means nearly the entire South Africa government. I think Comments:Nelson Mandela taken off US terrorist list is also worth mentioning in the article. -- Jeandré, 2008-08-16t05:56z —Preceding comment was added at 05:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


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Edmonton prison conflict wounds eight

July 2, 2008

Eight inmates at a maximum security prison in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada are hospitalized after a conflict broke out on Tuesday, July 1, 2008. Police state that there are at least eight who were stabbed, all of them are in their 20s, and one of the injured was also shot.

Violence began at about 3:00 pm MDT (21:00 ), when fifty inmates went out to a fenced yard for a recreational period at Edmonton Institution. Fighting quickly broke out between gangs when inmates attacked a group. Prison officers fired warning shots but they did not deter the fighting and an inmate was shot. Security eventually was able to remove the eight injured and have paramedics transport them to and  by ground and air ambulance. Six are in stable condition, but two are in critical condition. Kevin Grabowsky, region president of the prison officer's union said, "The incident, I think, was very much a surprise to one of the gangs involved in this fight."

When the fighting ceased after the wounded were transported to the hospital, about 40 of the other remaining inmates stayed in the yard and refused to return to their cells. Negotiators tried to rectify the situation, but the prisoners' demands are not clear. Between 10:00-11:00 pm MDT, a fire was started by the inmates in the yard. Soon, officers equipped with riot gear entered the yard and cornered the inmates with tear gas. Fire rescue crews eventually doused the fire by 11:35 pm.

Edmonton Institute is a maximum security correctional facility located in Edmonton, Alberta and houses over 200 inmates. There is high tension between gangs in the prison, which was locked down during the situation.

Authorities have recovered some of the weapons, and are investigating the incident.

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Zimbabwean opposition leader rejects calls for power sharing talks

July 2, 2008

Morgan Tsvangirai, leader of the Zimbabwean opposition party Movement for Democratic Change (MDC), says he will not participate in power sharing negotiations with President Robert Mugabe, who was widely accused of using violence and intimidation to win Sunday's run-off election.

The opposition leader, Mugabe's only rival in the election before dropping out due to fears of violence, cited South African President Thabo Mbeki's role as mediator in the conflict, as appointed by the Southern African Development Community (SADC). Tsvangirai has often criticized Mbeki for failing to publicly condemn Robert Mugabe, and has repeatedly called for him to step down.

Tsvangirai says that "no meaningful progress can be made toward resolving the Zimbabwe crisis" if the SADC or the African Union does not appoint at least one other mediator. "If this does not happen," he says, "then the MDC will not be part of the mediation process."

He added, "If dialogue is to be initiated, it is essential that ZANU-PF stops the violence, halts the persecution of MDC leaders and supporters." The MDC says that 9 of its supporters have been killed by the state since the run-off, bringing the death toll up to at least 95.

Earlier on Tuesday, leaders at an African Union summit voiced their support for dialogue aimed at the creation of a unity government in Zimbabwe. "We encourage President Mugabe and opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai to honour their commitment to initiate dialogue with a view to promote peace, stability, democracy and reconciliation in Zimbabwe," the AU said in a statement.

While the opposition rejected the idea of discussion, the Zimbabwe government called it a "welcome resolution", as stated by Information Minister Sikhanyiso Ndlovu. "Government is ready for dialogue with anyone," he said, "so long as it isn't dialogue concocted by the West." In his inauguration speech, Mugabe had said he was open to negotiations.

Tsvangirai believes that if a unified government were to be created, it should be based on the results of the original March 29 election, in which he received more votes but not enough to avoid a run-off. "We remain committed to negotiations or talks, call them what you will, but they should be based on the fact that we won the last credible election on March 29," Tsvangirai said. "Then we can move towards some transitional arrangement."

The European Union agrees with Tsvangirai on this point. Taking into account the March 29 vote, EU spokesman John Clancy says, "it's clear that [Tsvangirai] should be a leading member of that government as its potential prime minister or the head of government to ensure that certain reforms can take place." The EU had been placing pressure on the African Union to take strong measures against Mugabe's government.


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Tennis: Nadal beats Murray in Wimbledon quarter final

July 2, 2008 Britain's Andy Murray today was defeated by Rafael Nadal, who is ranked as the second best tennis player in the world, in the quarter finals of the Wimbledon Championships. Nadal won by three sets to none.

As the winner, Nadal will face or  in the final. Except for in the, neither Schuettler or Clement have got past the quarter final of a major tournament, while Nadal has won several international competitions. Reaching the quarter finals is Murray's most successful run.

Murray was born in Scotland in 1987 and he is currently Britain's highest ranked player, at number eleven worldwide. A successful run at Wimbledon would have meant that Murray's ranking would have risen higher.

Nadal was born in Spain in 1986, and his ranking is second only to that of Roger Federer. He is well known for winning a record 81 consecutive clay court matches.

Murray started the first set well, with him being close behind for much of the first half of the set. After Murray had won three games of the set, however, his play got worse and he lost the set 6-3.

Nadal dominated much of the second set, and he got a clear lead at the early stages of the set. Murray, fought back unsuccessfully, although he managed to stay only one game behind Nadal at the early stages of the set. The set finished with Nadal winning by six games to two.

The first game of the third set was won by Murray, although Nadal won the next game without letting his opponent score a single point. Murray almost broke serve in the third game, although he started to fall apart after he had won thirty points.

The set's next three games were very similar to the first three, with the two opponents being on an equal score after six games. Nadal then won the next three games to take the match.

Before the match, Murray said that he thought he had a chance of beating Nadal. "Obviously he's the favourite for the match but I do think that I can win," he said, speaking to BBC Sport.


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Refers to info from watching part of the match on tv. Anonymous101 (talk) 17:49, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

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this article is a bit fixated on Murray as opposed to a neutral article about a tennis match. --SVTCobra 01:18, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

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 * ✅ — ... but this article hadn't been protected yet, so you could have make the change yourself;). Gopher65talk 00:14, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

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The image of Andy Murray, should be replaced, as it has been deleted. My suggestion to replace the image is File:Andy Murray Hopman Cup 2010.jpg. Cocoaguytalkcontribs‽ 01:19, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * the image that you suggest as a replacement was taken after the date of this article. The only thing we can do is remove the dead link. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:42, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:Four killed, dozens injured in Jerusalem attack on bus

Title problematic
The reports I've seen say 4 were killed including the driver of the backhoe. The title of this article makes the problematic assertion that his death also fits under the rubric of "murder". 71.87.23.22 18:09, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I have, therefore, changed the title to read that 4 are dead, without saying murdered or killed, or whatever. TShilo12 (talk) 18:11, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

 * I'm uncomfortable with the assertion it was terror. It has all the hallmarks of a random mass-murer by a suicidal individual, although they are similar in many respects to terror attacks. Only if there were clear proof - like a suicide note - saying it were terror would I be comfortable saying more than 'believed to be' or 'alledged to be' terror and attributing who says so. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:46, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It has been so classified by the Jerusalem police and the IDF. Take it up with them.  People were certainly terrorized.  71.87.23.22 19:14, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

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Unfourtunately the original article was a copyvio so I deleted the original aritcle, wrote a new article and renamed it to avoind copyright violation. That is why the article has got shorter. Anonymous101 (talk) 20:02, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

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I'm not sure what Wikinews practice is with respect to news articles on topics about which there is also a Wikipedia article. In this case, the article in question on Wikipedia is Jerusalem bulldozer attack. Can it be added in a ==See also== section, or is that against some Wikinews common practice I don't know about? Thanks, TShilo12 (talk) 04:54, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * In these cases, the Wikipediapar template is added to the Sources section, creating a link to the Wikipedia article. Thanks for bringing it to our attention, though I kinda hate it when Wikipedia's article is more detailed than ours... oh, well. :-) ~Planoneck~ 05:03, 4 July 2008 (UTC)


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Nine oil workers die as helicopter crashes in Siberia

July 2, 2008 Nine oil workers have been killed after their helicopter crashed in Siberia, Russia.

"According to provisional information, there were 16 people on board, including three crew members. At least nine people died," a spokesman for Russia's Emergency Situations Ministry told reporters. The crash occurred in Yamalo-Nenets, an oil-rich region in Northern Siberia.

A Federal Air Transport Agency told Interfax that only thirteen were onboard the aircraft, which was operated by UT Air, but agreed with the death toll of nine. He also said that three people received minor injuries and a fourth was seriously injured. All the passengers worked on a local drilling platform.

The aircraft was headed from Noyabrsk to the Varginskoye oilfield. It caught fire after crashing. According to the ministry, the crash site was "70 kilometers from the border between the Khanty Mansi Autonomous Area and Yamal".

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Palestinians storm Egyptian border near Rafah

July 2, 2008

The border between Egypt and the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip has closed again after Palestinians attacked the border. The border opened again on Tuesday, but after Wednesday's events, was once again closed.

Egypt had opened the border to allow people stranded on either side to go across, and to allow Palestinians access to supplies and services such as health care. When Egypt restricted passage to only small groups of people, Palestinians began to grow restless.

There are reports of stones being thrown at Egyptian and Palestinian border guards. Three Palestinians are reported to be injured. To repel the riot, the Egyptians used water-canons to keep crowds at bay. The Egypt-Gaza border is now sealed again.

Hamas militants have previously forced open the Egyptian border in January to allow Palestinians to get essential supplies that have been cut off due to an Israeli blockade. Israel has since allowed supplies to flow into the Gaza Strip as per a ceasefire agreement.


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Íngrid Betancourt and others rescued, says Colombia

July 2, 2008 According to Colombian defense minister Juan Manuel Santos, 15 hostages have been rescued, some of whom have been held for as long as six years by the FARC.

Among them are former Colombian presidential candidate Íngrid Betancourt, three American contractors for the United States military and 11 military men.

The operation that resulted in the rescue was called Jaque by the Colombian Army. Troops involved in the operation were disguised as non-governmental figures from a non-existent organization. FARC members were led to believe that they would get on a plane to meet Alfonso Cano, the leader of FARC. No shots were fired and there were no injuries. Betancourt called the operation, "perfect."

"God, this is a miracle... There is no historical precedent for such a perfect operation," Betancourt told reporters during a press conference at an air force base located in Bogotá. The U.S. states that it played a role in the planning of the operation, but did not specify the significance of their role.

John McCain, Presumptive Republican Party nominee for President of the U.S., said he had been briefed on the operation by Colombian President Álvaro Uribe and defense minister Juan Manuel Santos.

"This was a Colombian conceived and led operation; we supported the operation," said U.S. Deputy Press Secretary Gordon Johndroe. "This rescue was long in the planning, and we’ve been working with the Colombians for five years, since the hostages were taken, to free them from captivity."

The rescued individuals are:
 * José Miguel Arteaga
 * Juan Carlos Bermeo
 * Íngrid Betancourt
 * Julio Buitrago
 * Armando Castellanos
 * Jhon Jairo Durán
 * Armando Flórez
 * Mark Gonzalve
 * Thomas Howen
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Four killed, dozens injured in Jerusalem attack on bus

July 2, 2008 A Palestinian from Jerusalem today killed three and injured dozens by driving a front-end loader into a passenger bus. The incident occurred today at noon local time.

The father of the attacker told press that he did not know of his son's plans. "My son never spoke of plans to carry out such an attack, if he had I would have tried to prevent it," he told The Media Line before he was questioned by police.

Local police have stated that the incident was an act of terrorism. "There is no doubt at all that this was a terrorist attack," said a police spokesperson, speaking to media on the scene of the attack.

Jabr Duwait, the perpetrator of the attack was shot and killed on site by local police in the minutes after the officials arrived on the scene.

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User:Grawp the Giant~enwikinews

Hello, I am Grawp. GrawpIP is not me. If you block me, you will be in violation of Wikinews policy because I have, in fact, never vandalized Wikinews. Have a good day!

Oh wait, yes I have: Special:Contributions/Grawp. See, Wikinews is such a pointless and shitty project that I cannot even remember whether or not I have vandalized it.

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Comments:Tennis: Nadal beats Murray in Wimbledon quarter final

the word final is used instead of semifinal in one point as nadal will meet one of them in the semifinal, not the final.

tennis info wrong
Nadal will face schuettler or clement in the semi finals, not in the finals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.226.137.215 (talk) 17:31, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Mugabe spokeperson tells critics to 'go hang'

Mugabe should go hang himself.


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London Stages Václav Havel's Leaving as First Place Outside Czech Republic
Hi Okino. Thanks the article. The reason why nobody reviewed your article until now is that we tend to wait until the author of the article places the review tag on it. I just reviewed it and it was a very good article. Thanks again. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 22:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

 * Thank You, Okino (talk) 06:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

First Czech Winter Olympics champion Jiří Raška dies at age 70
Published! A long wait on the review queue, and honestly it was very difficult to review through the language barrier to the Czech sources (I'm not sure if some things failed verification just because of the translation problem); but it looks like practically all English coverage was from just one article, by AP, so I'm hoping some of this may be nowhere else in English.

Note my use of template translated quote. See also the, and review comments. --Pi zero (talk) 16:21, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry
Just had to fail Miloš Forman receives Directors Guild's lifetime achievement award because it is no longer newsworthy. Sorry about that. I know how much it sucks when that happens: I've had plenty of my stories fail for the same reason. If you can refocus it on a current event, it'd be possible to revive it. Again, my apologies. —Tom Morris (talk) 14:42, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for info. Seeing such humble explanation makes the disappointment a lot smaller. --Okino (talk) 23:26, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Czech energy article
Please see review.....an excellent effort! --Bddpaux (talk) 20:20, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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User talk:171.64.23.210

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19th century stable in Buffalo, New York officially saved from demolition

Developer and CEO of Savarino Companies, Sam Savarino, has confirmed to Wikinews that he has bought, and is planning to restore a severely damaged stable and livery on Buffalo's West Side. The building partially collapsed on June 11, which originally caused 15 homes to be evacuated. Savarino bought the building from owner Bob Freudenheim for US$1.00 and states that he hopes to save as much of the building as possible, including the facade, at least 20 feet of the side walls, all of the back walls including the elevator tower and if possible all three floors. There is one major downside to the purchase; he inherits the over $400,000 tax lien against the property.

"It was a "NYS Lotto" purchase ('a dollar and a dream'). I do inherit the City’s lien of $400,000 though," stated Savarino to Wikinews. The fee is what the city has been billed for the limited demolition it paid for before Savarino bought the building. Currently the city is suing Freudenheim to force him to pay for those fees.

The building is currently undergoing minor demolition in preparations to make the rest of it stable. Once complete, Savarino plans to evaluate the extent of the damage and begin his plans to make the building into residential living spaces.

"Only unstable parts are being demolished. We will see what we have to deal with as the demolition proceeds but tentative plans are for living units on two floors with parking on the ground floor," stated Savarino. Construction is expected to begin as early as this year, but "more than likely next year," he added.

Originally the city ordered an emergency demolition on the building after Freudenheim gave them permission to demolish it on June 12 during an emergency Preservation Board meeting. His reason was because he would not be "rehabilitating the building anytime soon."

Freudenheim, along with his wife Nina, were part-owners of the Hotel Lenox at 140 North Street in Buffalo and were advocates to stop the Elmwood Village Hotel from being built on the Southeast corner of Forest and Elmwood Avenues. They also financially supported a lawsuit in an attempt to stop the hotel from being built. Though it is not known exactly how long Freudenheim has owned the stable, Wikinews has learned that he was the owner while fighting to stop the hotel from being built. Residents say that he has been the owner for at least 22 years. Residents successfully halted demolition after winning a restraining order in New York State Supreme Court, which will continue to monitor developments in the case. The next hearing is scheduled for September 2.

Savarino states his project could cost at least $3,500,000 and before construction can begin, all plans must be approved by the city's planning board.


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Based on an interview I did with Savarino. Sent the mail through scoop. Also info is based on past articles. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:58, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


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Search-and-rescue dog that found 9/11 survivor to be cloned

July 3, 2008

A German shepherd who recovered the last survivor of the September 11, 2001 attacks is to be cloned. His owner, James Symington, a former police officer from Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada entered an essay writing contest about why his dog should be cloned.

Trakr, the 15 year old German shepherd suffering from degenerative neurological disorder, was the subject of a contest-winning essay about why Trakr should be cloned that was written by Symington. Trakr and Symington received Humanitarian Service Awards from Jane Goodall for their heroics at Ground Zero. Symington is now an actor of film and television, sometimes credited as Peter James.

BioArts International sponsored the essay-writing contest. Five more dogs are to be cloned by its Best Friends Again program. While Trakr will receive free replication, the other dogs will have to participate in an auction with a starting bid of US$100,000.

BioArts is going to send the DNA of the 6 dogs to Sooam Biotech Research Foundation in Seoul, South Korea. A Sooam researcher said that the dog should be born in November.


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User talk:Ilikepie2221

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Hillary Clinton attends grand opening of the Erie Canal Harbor in Buffalo, New York

July 3, 2008 Junior Senator of New York and former United States 2008 presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton attended a ceremony marking the grand opening of the Erie Canal Harbor in Buffalo, New York. This marks the first time in nearly 100 years that the inner harbor of Buffalo's Canal waterfront has seen significant development, dedicated to tourism and the people.

"Hello Buffalo!" stated an enthusiastic Clinton to a crowd of 500 people. "It is such a privilege and joy to see this project and all that it means not only for Buffalo, but Western New York. This truly has been a labor of love. All of the people before you, plus so many others have seen this vision and have been committed to making it a reality."

"In a few minutes [I will] walk to the center of the Whipple Truss bridge and reenact that famous ceremony that took place 183 years ago," added Clinton. "[The original development] took so many immigrant workers and so many leaders who never ever wavered. Local economies boomed, commerce exploded and this (the Canal) became one of the greatest infrastructure achievements in the history of the world," Clinton added. In 1825, then state governor DeWitt Clinton dedicated the canal to the city in almost the same spot where Clinton stood. He traveled the entire route of the Canal, bringing water from each stop. In a ceremony, the water was dumped from buckets off the truss bridge, something Clinton and other politicians reenacted today. Off to her right, the Buffalo Fire Department sprayed water into the harbor from a fire fighting boat, just as it did over 100 years ago. Cannons were also fired into the air just like they were when governor Clinton celebrated building of the Canal.

"I am very proud to support the redevelopment of the Erie Canal Harbor. The progress we are celebrating today, will continue. I am as convinced as can be, that as we see progress here at the inner harbor and the outer harbor, we are going to see the revival of Buffalo continue," said Clinton.

The project cost almost US$55 million to build, and its not over yet. A stretch of lakeside parks, trails and mixed use commercial and residential development is also planned for Buffalo's waterfront. City mayor Byron Brown says the redevelopment will attract hundreds of millions of dollars in new projects.

Several other politicians were also present such as Senior N.Y Senator Charles Schumer, former Buffalo mayor Anthony Masiello and congressman Brian Higgins.

"By reclaiming our past, we are forging our future. The Erie Canal project is an economic shot in the arm for Buffalo and Western New York that will spur business, jobs and tourism," stated Schumer.


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Comments:Man auctions his life on eBay, is disappointed at sale price

This fellow is my hero. Right on Ian! I hope I will meet you in my travels some day!

Cool
I first thought what a loser...but as I read on, he sounded like a normal every day person. He actaully has an excellent idea, something I thought of doing a few times. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 19:13, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

That rocks!
Wow. That is totally awesome! I never would have guessed it. He should definitely, definitely, write a book. I wish I had the gumption to let go like that... actually, I have the gumption, but not what you might call the... motivation. This is just too cool. -Light Soldier (talk)Light_Soldier

You need God!
You need to go buy a Bible with all that money and find Someone who really cares about your sad life. But, also, good luck in your adventures!!! It must be exhilarating!!


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Talk:Hillary Clinton attends grand opening of the Erie Canal Harbor in Buffalo, New York

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All quotes from Clinton are from my micro cassette as I was at the event. Yes it worked and 110% I will add. I am actually shocked. I also took the pictures...if it looks like crap, blame it on my camera. More of ones I took are here. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:39, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Nice work. Adambro (talk) 05:59, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:25, 4 July 2008 (UTC)


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Former science director sues Texas over intelligent design e-mail

July 3, 2008

, former director of the science curriculum for the (TEA), is suing the Commissioner Robert Scott for wrongful dismissal. Comer alleges that she was "illegally fired for forwarding an e-mail about a lecture that was critical of the teaching of in science classes." Her suit alleges she was "terminated for contravening an unconstitutional policy" which required "employees to be neutral on the subject of – the biblical interpretation of the origin of humans."

reported, "The policy was in force even though the federal courts have ruled that teaching creationism as science in public schools is illegal under U.S. Constitution's provision preventing government establishment or endorsement of religious beliefs." Among Comer's supporters is Philosopher and speaker  who was the presenter at the lecture Comer mentioned in the email.

reported, "The TEA was not available for comment late Wednesday."

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This is me over at the english wikipedia, my main project.

Any talk comments would be better off over at en.wiki as I check that page much more often than here.

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Military storehouse explodes near Sofia

July 3, 2008

Explosions in a military storehouse woke up the Bulgarian capital city of Sofia around 6:30 AM EST. Police, ambulances and Civil defense arrived at the scene.

According to general Zlatan Stoikov, speaking for the Bulgarian National Radio, the military base in Chelopechene is currently inaccessible and under closing down. "There are 1494 tons of explosives stored in the Chelopechane base", said the Minister of Defence Nikolai Tsonev, according to "Focus" Agency. The restricted area is 2 square kilometers. In the moment of the first explosion there were two guards in the storehouses, who didn't note anything moving. A radius of 6 kilometres is inspected for shrapnel.

Some was noticed near the Kvebek approach to the Sofia Airport, said the Minister of Transport Petar Mutafchiev. The part was 4-5 cm and it is removed. Some of the flights to Sofia were redirected to Plovdiv and passengers were transported to Sofia by buses. After being inspected by internal specialists and group from the Ministry of Transport, the Sofia airport is working again.

Many windows were broken by the explosion, even in some parts of Sofia. The mayor of Sofia, Boiko Borisov, said that many citizens called the municipality to find out what has happened. 1,438 calls to the emergency services number were received between 6:30 and 6:45, the Minister of Emergencies Emel Etem reported to the national legislature, according to "Focus" agency. The people that called it in didn't know the exact location of the explosion. The explosion was heard at 6:28; the first call was at 6:30. The police arrived in 5 minutes and all other services in 10.

A detachment from the 38th Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Protection Regiment - Musachevo was sent to the scene. There were rumours about toxic gases and even radiation, but they were denied by the chemical squad, arrived at the scene.

The cause of the explosions is currently unknown and is under investigation. The investigators will wait at least 24 hours before approaching the scene.

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Comments:Four killed, dozens injured in Jerusalem attack on bus

There are films that clearly show the attacker being killed by the man in the blue t-shirt, Moshe Plesser, an off-duty solier. The films show his shooting the attacker in the head 3 times with a pistol. Moshe is not a policeman.


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Comments:Íngrid Betancourt and others rescued, says Colombia

Were the contractors employees of Dyncorp? I can't seem to find any news organization that it publishing who their employer was.

She will become the next president, replacing Uribe the asshole.

FARC story inaccuracy
The 3 americans were only in captivity since 2003 (or about 5 years). Betancourt was held since February 2002. The other 11 had not been in for exactly 6 years either, in all likelihood. So this story is sort of misleading. --Filll (talk) 17:41, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Still not sure
Betancourt was held more than 6 years (almost 6.5 years). The US contractors were held about 5 years. As for the other 11, it is not clear how long they were held but some might have been held for far longer, since the FARC has some prisoners that have been held much much longer than 6 years.--Filll (talk) 16:26, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


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Talk:Íngrid Betancourt and others rescued, says Colombia

Were the contractors employees of Dyncorp? I can't seem to find any news organization that it publishing who their employer was.
 * The worked for Northrop Grumman --SVTCobra 19:26, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Nelson Mandela taken off US terrorist list

DR NELSON MANDELA off the TERRORRIST List
I think it's rather late for the USA to do a right thing such as that, however, it's never too late for them to apologise for their paranoea and obvious stupidity.I wonder if all the South AFrican Apartheid Helders like Wouter Bason and F.W De Klerk, are on that list, because they too have an outmost potential.It's rather a shame for the world not to know who to stigmatise-but again as long as you are black or Muslim, you are a terrorrist.

From IZINYOKA IN CAPE TOWN

??
It's about time! It's an embarassment to us as a NATION, supposedly dedicated to the principals of freedom and democracy, to put a man who fought for and embodied those principals on a TERRORIST list! At least this was done during Mandela's lifetime. Galileo wasn't pardoned until 500 YEARS after his death! Nothing like doing the right thing... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.69.139.141 (talk) 21:19, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

ONE MORE...ANOTHER ABUSE
Yes, One more thing for which the US government must be blamed. Point to Mandela for so many years has no excuse. Didn't these woman noticed that before?? Who are these people to decide who is a terrorist and who is not??

Thomas Chang--201.103.76.211 22:29, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

 * The highest responsibility of a government is to the safety of its citizens; the military and police are among the most universal parts of a government. As such, it behooves a government to monitor its borders and prevent the entrance of those who would harm its citizens. That's why those people are to decide who is a threat (which include terrorists) and who isn't.--Prosfilaes (talk) 15:03, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Pretty incompetent people you've got there. They kept Nelson Mandela on this list for what reason? --Brian McNeil / talk 15:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That's completely irrelevant to my response to the question of why they are making a list. And if your goal is security, there's no reason to ever take anyone off the list, as admitting someone never improves your security. An active review would take manpower that could be used elsewhere. And if you ever remove someone from that list who later kills someone, you get the backlash and arguably some of the responsibility. So I don't see any incompetence at all in this.--Prosfilaes (talk) 19:02, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Mandela finally jailed because of the CIA.
The most important part of this story would be to mention that Mandela was captured in 1962 by the apartheid government thanks to their very good friends the CIA, who in turn received their power from the voters in the USA. The same CIA agent "came out of retirement in 1985 to help the white regime neutralize anti-apartheid activists". Source: Stein, Jeff (1996-11-14). Our man in South Africa. Salon.com. Retrieved on 2008-08-16. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeandré du Toit (talk • contribs) 05:49, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

i think that it is embarassing that nelson mandela was on the united states' list of terrorists considering all that he has done to change south africa for the better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.27.223.224 (talk) 17:03, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

What? Why so long? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.254.101.70 (talk) 01:31, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Why did it take so long to take him off?
He was released in 1992

nelson mandela...
i agree this is embarssing... how could they put a prominent leader in a terror list?

United States of Assholes
How can a man of Peace be classified as a Terrorist in the first place, to win the cold War? oppose the soviets for creating a postage stamp for him saying he is a Liberator? why? they should issue an official apology for this.

United States of Assholes
How can a man of Peace be classified as a Terrorist in the first place, to win the cold War? oppose the soviets for creating a postage stamp for him saying he is a Liberator? why? they should issue an official apology for this.

United States of Assholes
How can a man of Peace be classified as a Terrorist in the first place, to win the cold War? oppose the soviets for creating a postage stamp for him saying he is a Liberator? why? they should issue an official apology for this.

Terrorism
Is it true or false that in the name of The ANC and Nelson Mandela,innocent people were killed?


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Comments:Military storehouse explodes near Sofia

"A Big explosion woke up Sofia" - Sounds like the beginning of a poorly-written children's novel. 75.0.13.22 11:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Unless you live in Sofia - like me! Unless you are indeed woken up by your windowpanes ringing - and you live 15 km from the site! - and you have friends living near the site who have lost their home, and oh I could go on for ages... about the lack of public information, conflicting statements made by the authorities, oh hang on - this has become a separate article...

What I mean to tell the previous commenter is - don't dismiss the language of the story, but commend the effort of the person who at least tried to bring some news to you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.122.164.204 (talk) 13:08, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Without any comment on the 1st paragraph, the idea IS correct: Minor grammar mistakes or inelegant phrases can (and should) be easily fixed by anyone (I just made a few edits like that). 68.39.174.238 01:48, 4 July 2008 (UTC)


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Talk:Ulysses spacecraft retires after 17 year mission

Request for clarification
What does 'retirement' imply for a spacecraft. I mean, its a piece of metal? I doubt they are going to send it a message reading "good job boy, you may return to Earth - we have a nice pension plan prepared for you"? If it means something like shutting it down, then why? Why not let it continue operating till it malfunctions entirely?

Category improvement
editprotected "Category:ESA" => "Category:European Space Agency" Van der Hoorn (talk) 15:30, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

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Australian murder victims killed in different ways

July 3, 2008

69-year-old grandfather John Walsh stands accused of murdering three victims in the small New South Wales town of Cowra. All victims were killed in different ways.

Media organisations have reported that the 69-year-old man killed his five year old grand daughter by drowning; her seven year old brother was killed by a blunt force trauma to the back of the head, and his wife was killed by multiple axe wounds to her body - including her head.

New South Wales Police could not confirm the post-mortem examination, saying that the results of the post-mortem examination are not expected to be finalised for a couple of days and may not be immediately made public.

The 69-year-old man, who went before Deniliquin Local Court on July 1, 2008, was refused bail and charged with three counts of murder and one count of attempted murder. He is currently in a special holding cell on 24-hour watch at the Junee Correctional Centre. A further appearance is due in Wagga Wagga Local Court via an audio-visual link on July 7, 2008.