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Wikinews talk:Requests for permissions/Archive 1

Template?
OK... should probably have brought this here first... sorry!

anyways I propose adding a template simpler to the following on the page:

Username
Description of why you nominate this person. If you are nominating yourself, describe why you believe you should be an administrator.
 * If you've been nominated by another person, support (or deny) the nomination here

Questions/Answers
Wikinews users may ask questions for the nominated user here.

Wikinews Community Voting
similar to what we have on other pages (like Requests for Interview and Request for accreditation), any comments? terinjokes User Page / Talk 22:11, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Seems a little bit instruction creepy. I don't have any objections, but really, is their a need. Most people would be able to create an admin request without looking at a template. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:54, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * We use a template for requests for accreditation, i understand their are differences between there and here, but still see no reason we shouldn't have a template. Do you? terinjokes | Talk | Come visit the WikiBistro 20:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I do; there's no need for one, so why introduce one. Dan100 (Talk) 17:39, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

 * I tried to bring some order to the process too, but indeed it instruction creep.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:03, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

 * No reason not to have a template, but we are not Wikipedia. Personally, I say if you wanna ask questions, put em on the user's talk page. Then provide a link to prevent cluttering it. Thunderhead - (talk) Congrajulations to Kat! 22:10, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

 * I like the idea of a template, but make it easy like RyanB88 .--RyanB88 - (talk) 01:27, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Half are inactive
Just under half of all administrators are inactive. --Nzgabriel | Talk 09:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe we need to impliment a process like this on Wikinews.  Thunderhead  ►  02:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That's a good idea, as those who have left no longer need admin features, and if they come back they can ask for them back again, and we take into consideration that they once had them. --Nzgabriel | Talk 10:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I support this. I will be writing up a policy, and call a vote on it. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 02:59, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Good ideas. I'll vote.  Thunderhead  ►  03:09, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Please see Inactive Policy Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 03:37, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I rewrote it to make everyone happy. Nyarlathotep 06:58, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Car

I was given this temporarily when I became an admin, and no one has taken it since. I'll park it here for anyone's use. -- Zanimum 16:14, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well actually a couple other people also took it for a spin with the car after your adminship passed. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Good, I thought there was only one... --  Zanimum 15:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Reinstatement
I think it should exist, it is still at the descretion of the beaurecrat.--Ryan524 - (talk) 22:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I dislike the reinstatement policy. There is no harm in waiting a week and letting the community decide again. --Cspurrier - (talk) 01:57, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, if you give up adminship willey-nilly (or lose it some other way I geuss), you should be prepared to not have adminship. Otherwise we'll get people stepping down and picking it back up repetitively. If you're trusted, etc, you'll get it again anyways (eventually, maybe not on the first try, but you will get it again). Bawolff ☺☻ 02:03, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I would think if someone was doing that the b'crats would not allow it. But I agree waiting a week is no big deal, we'll see what others say, if thats seems to be the consensus than so be it, IMO it dosen't matter either way but I thik its nice to have.--Ryan524 - (talk) 02:07, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I think in all circumstances it is appropriate to have a discussion, as Cspurrier says, waiting a week isn't going to cause any problems and any issues which surrounded the removal of rights can be discussed. I don't think we should hold our bureaucrats solely responsible for determining whether a past administrator is fit to have the rights again. There are a broad range of issues to consider. Adambro - (talk) 05:16, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 * On a wiki like this, I agree with Bawolff. The RfA process here isn't broken like enwp's yet :) Daniel (talk) 05:28, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Well I'm more neatural than anything on it, nobody else has voice an opionion in favor of keeping it...--Ryan524 (talk) 00:23, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

 * As someone who has given up adminship on Wikinews a couple times... I prefer getting approval from the community before regaining the bits. -  Amgine | t 13:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Interwiki nl
Hello, could someone please fix the interwikilink to the nl-Wikinews page? Changing the old link from nl:Wikinews:Sysop to the new one: nl:Wikinews:Moderator. Thank you!! Greetings from the nl-wiki! NL-Romaine (talk) 23:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Cirt! NL-Romaine (talk) 00:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

The mystery two
Who are the two sysops that are included in the total on WN:RC, but not listed on this page? --Brian McNeil / talk 12:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Per this list User group:sysop, I believe the two are and . Cheers, --SVTCobra 12:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Neat page on Meta
Here is a neat page on Meta-Wiki, perhaps we should add a link to it on WN:A. Cirt (talk) 00:28, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Administrators of Wikimedia projects/Wikinews

Migrate to Requests for permissions
Since there are no current RfA or other requests, do you guys think we should start migrating over to that page for the requests? Thunderhead 20:07, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think that now is an excellent time to do that. At least/especially for all the requests for permissions that currently are performed on this page already - IMO for that process the move should not be controversial. Cirt (talk) 03:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I always thought it was odd the requests were held here. This page should be about administrators, and a list of them, but not the actual requests themselves. A permissions page is much better.  Majorly  talk  14:24, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Def., I am completely in favor of that. The Mind's Eye (talk) 14:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

There does not appear to be objection to this so I will make the changes soon if we have unanimous support for this change. Cirt (talk) 21:01, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Might want to mention this on the mailing list. Thunderhead 05:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think there are already enough eyes watching WN:A, but I flagged this discussion and will wait a couple more days for input. Cirt (talk) 01:19, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

✅. Cirt (talk) 18:05, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Interwikis

 * I think there is repeating of interwikis. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 17:18, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know what's wrong, but the interwiki list isn't duplicated, while it appears on the page duplicated. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 17:27, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't understand what you're saying is a problem. Can you try and describe it better - perhaps give an example article and detail where, and what you think the errors are? --Brian McNeil / talk 17:32, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * On Administrators - the entire interwiki list is doubled for me (WinXP, IE7 if that helps). Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 00:52, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * And I see the problem: as well as a list of interwikis, there's an inclusion of a subpage, Administrators/interwiki links. Going to do a quick investigation to see which one belongs. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 00:54, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * So, here's the deal: User:Daniel moved the interwiki links to the subpage in August. User:BOT-Superzerocool then readded them to the page in October. What do we want to do about it? Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 00:57, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete the subpage, perhaps? That seems to be causing the problem. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 01:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think you're right. It's easier than trying to work around the bot (which will presumably readd them if they're removed), and it doesn't really clutter up the page *that* much. Will do in a second. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 00:02, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

New page?
Now that we have two more user rights, in addition to the four that were already available, I propose a single page for all of the rights, that is more clear than Administrators. Most of this page was blatantly copied borrowed from meta, but it's certainly a start, and I hope it will generate some discussion.

By the way, I'd like to say it's amazing that I still remember all of this wiki-code ;) Thunderhead 12:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Dup?
See also Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions. (It may make sense to have that page separate as the discussions might take a shorter period of time.) Cirt (talk) 12:51, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That's partly where I got the idea from - we should probably keep ed/rev and the bot requests separate, but pulling all of the others together was the idea I was going for. Thunderhead 12:57, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. This way WN:A will get cleared up a bit. Cirt (talk) 13:00, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I like this page a whole lot. The Mind's Eye (talk) 13:19, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Cirt (talk) 13:23, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Thunderhead 13:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, we'd probably keep Accreditation requests seperate also. Thunderhead 13:34, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed, as that is a relatively different type of process. Cirt (talk) 13:35, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I personally don't see the need for all these pages. They are all, except for accreditation, requests for permissions. They should all take place on one page, Requests for permissions. Spreading them out seems to me to be unhelpful.  Majorly  talk  16:35, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * We could have template magic to have the best of both worlds (people could choose between using this page, or the separate page). Bawolff ☺☻ 07:58, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That sounds like the ideal way to go. Cirt (talk) 01:46, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Administrators
I think more of the consensus/approved instructions already in existence at Administrators should be copied over here. Cirt (talk) 13:52, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I concur. The Mind's Eye (talk) 16:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Copied some stuff over from WN:A, feel free to copyedit. Cirt (talk) 08:23, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Templates
Every time we get round to closing something like an RfA I'm left scratching my head about what templates are used. Can someone who has a memory longer than that of a goldfish please add closing instructions to the page? --Brian McNeil / talk 19:44, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Seriously...
What on earth has happened to RfP? I suggested that we create the subpages thing in IRC - however I also asked that we leave it for now! RfP looks like a shambles now - it's cluttered, unorganised, and messy! PLEASE can we get this reverted - it needs to be developed before being released! -- Sken   my talk 09:08, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

 * I agree. This rearrangement needs to be sent back to the drawing board.  It's too cluttered, making a nomination has become more technically tricky, and I think open discussions should be actually on the page itself, not in subpages:  It's fine to archive each discussion on its own subpage —preserving the chronology, of course, which gives the best of both worlds— but carrying out the discussion should happen on the page that everyone already has on their watchlist.  --Pi zero (talk) 17:55, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Meh, it was supposed to be a complete re-organization of the archives in subpages, and a re-formulation of the way to do requests for adminship/bureaucrat, etc. It is based on Wikipedia, completely, so how can you think it is hard to watchlist requests for adminship AND the separate RfA page for XYZ. Just move your pointer over the star at the left of the arrow that is next to the search box, then click it. Not hard at all. Diego Grez return fire 17:58, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Not hard, but harder than doing nothing. I don't really like the way they do this on Wikipedia, as it means only project page wonks participate in discussions.  --InfantGorilla (talk) 06:25, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

The history of all of the archived discussions has now been completely lost --Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 23:00, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * What history? The most is still at Administrators and Requests for permissions if that is what you mean. Diego Grez return fire 23:01, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Appears previous archiving borked the revision history anyway so nevermind. --Alexandr Dmitri (talk) 23:13, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


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Talk:Barack Obama taps Joe Biden to be his running mate

I say leave it up until more evidence comes out to prove or disprove (i say for the nature of this it is treated as breaking news- in development.)Rankun (talk) 00:39, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * We can't possibly publish with title as is. It is policy to have two independent sources. Wikinews is not intended to be a rumor mill. --SVTCobra 00:42, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I know that often such rumors turn out to be true, but that doesn't mean we can run with it. BTW, we have Story preparation/US candiate Barack Obama announces running mate via text message ready to go as soon as the real announcement is made. --SVTCobra 00:46, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This is an interesting read Text hoaxes plague Obama VP plan (The Politico). --SVTCobra 01:17, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Hoax?
Jay Zalowitz (the fresh prince of investing) has no track record of providing reliable political information. --SVTCobra 01:30, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Redirect
I'm going to redirect this, since another article with a better title and sources has been started. JeremyMcCracken (talk) 05:28, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/


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Comments:United States and Iraq finalize agreement to have troops out of Iraq by 2011

I've been violating one of my principles, that is substantiating an opinion with specific links. However, I vaguely recall a statement by a commander in Afghanistan that we could be out by 2011; nearly decade after the first attack by the Taliban, if things don't go wrong --and of course things are going to go wrong.

The commanders in the past and present have screwed up, and there should not and must not be any tolerance for these half decade to decade long deployments. The sooner these two nations can stand on their own two legs crutches, the better. QUINTIX (talk) 01:40, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

 * What you expect from war? Non stop progress? A enemy that is going to lay down and take it. Lets just be happy too see progress from Iraq, and now look at Afghanistan and a stronger Taliban.--KDP3 (talk) 03:01, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Obvious election-year chicanery.
Isn't it convenient that the very first deadline to be met by this agreement isn't until after the US presidential election? It smells to me like this is a Republican ploy to address the voting public's desire to withdraw from Iraq in hopes of winning back some support for McCain, and then these very tenuous plans can change drastically or be dropped entirely. And I don't say this as an Obama supporter -- he terrifies me only slightly less than McCain, and I'm not voting for either. The lesser of two evils is still an evil.

 * The agreement has been in the works for months now and since the success of the Surge everyone knows our Troops are coming home it was just the matter of when. And like the agreement say. It defends on the situation on the ground and the Iraqi Army is not yet standing on it's feet yet. Look what happen at Basra. But with US support The Iraqi army made grounds in Sadr City. But time will tell if Iraq can stand up too the radicals and extremist. --KDP3 (talk) 14:42, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Just In Time...
...for the apocalypse in 2012. For some reason, this announcement doesn't surprise me in the least, and also makes me even more distrusting of the government (if that was possible in the first place). --96.252.61.169 17:15, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Cowards
Why are the americans such cowards? They attack and rape civillians and now they are running away from a battle they obviously have lost. Reminders or echoes of Vietnam? Surely. They ran from that with 50,000 dead and 3 MILLION civillians dead and they call themselves "heroes". More like cowards. Who asked them to join the army and get killed or wounded in action? American = coward these. Stupid uncivillised people. 78.144.21.163 21:46, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:'Top Model' winner CariDee English on her modeling career and her battle with psoriasis

Learn English--not "could have went" but "could have GONE"!
Learn english! "You could have went"????????? MH, ever hear of the word "gone" used with a helping verb? Get educated! You could have GONE is the correct verb form. Someone in journalism should know how to speak.
 * There's always a tactful way to present grievances. This, however, is not it.

 * As you can see, this interview was transcribed from a telephone conversation I had with Miss English. Even though I'm a journalist, I don't always speak in the Queen's English and I felt it was disingenuous to sneak something in that I really didn't say. You can think anything you want about me, but next time try not to sound as if you're frothing at the mouth with rabies. Thanks ever so much. Mike Halterman (talk) 10:44, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

yay


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Comments:Barack Obama picks Senator Joe Biden for his vice presidential nominee

Confirmed by CNN as true: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/23/biden.democrat.vp.candidate/index.html

I don't trust liberal stations such as CNN. In any case, Joe Biden is America's creepiest VP pick since 1984's Ferraro. Biden freaks me out! If you've heard what he said recently about his running mate ("There will be an international crisis to test the mettle of this guy"), you probably understand why I think he's creepy. He gives me bad vibes. I know Obama chose the wrong man. --74.130.244.188 00:31, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


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Calls for bottled water bans grow in Canada

August 23, 2008 London, Ontario is the latest in a string of Canadian cities to have acted on increasing public demand to ban bottled water. On Monday, the decision to eliminate bottled water sales in city-run facilities was passed by London's city council with a vote of 15-3 in favour. The move was driven by a desire to reduce waste and shipping, have a lower impact on the environment and promote tap water as a cheap and safe alternative.

London's new restrictions will be implemented over the next several months in buildings that are already equipped with water fountains. Bottled water will still be permitted at many city-run events, such as upcoming summer festivals. Privately-owned retailers will not be affected by the ban.

Other cities, such as Vancouver, Ottawa and Kitchener, that are already engaged in debate on the issue, may now be watching London carefully for how the ban plays out. Other areas have already begun to phone London with questions on the details of its new regulations. Toronto has begun taking a look at bottled water packaging as part of its waste diversion strategy, and its public school board is looking into the possibility of a total restriction on bottled water sales.

In recent years, an awareness of the energy that is required to manufacture, transport and recycle the product has spread nation-wide. Proponents of the ban point to the fact that it can produce as much as 150 times the volume of greenhouse gas when producing bottled water as compared to supplying the same volume of tap water. They also point out that the water that goes into bottled water products is not inspected as frequently as tap water in Canadian cities.

Some have taken this cause to heart more than others, such as British Environment Minister Phil Woolas, who called the use of bottled water "morally unacceptable." Restaurant critic Giles Coren of The Times of London criticizes those who use the product as "the new smokers."

Canada's beverage industry has come down with criticism on the increasing opposition to bottled water. Spokesman Scott Tabachnick for Coca-Cola Co., which produces Dasani brand bottled water, commented on the convenience of the product: "It's hard to bring your kitchen sink with you."

Vancouver City Councillor Tim Stevenson thinks that bottled water's time has come and gone: "Bottled water companies have had a fabulous ride on an unnecessary fad." Vancouver officials are still determining how bottled water restrictions, which have been voted for by the City Council, can be phased in.

Next month, the city is planning to initiate a marketing campaign encouraging Vancouver residents to choose tap water and to remember to carry reusable drinking containers whenever possible.

Renowned environmental activist Dr. David Suzuki has praised London's decision, saying that it represents a turning point for people's perceptions on the issue: "I'm really delighted that London has done this because it really makes us focus on some fundamental issues." He hopes that someday people will "look at anyone who hauls out a bottle of water and say, 'What the hell's wrong with you?'"


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Wikinews:CommonsTicker/20080823

23 August

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User talk:BobaCartman

Welcome
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Olympic highlights: August 23, 2008

August 23, 2008 August 23, 2008 is the 14th major day of the 2008 Olympic games, the below article lists some of the highlights.

Men's javelin throw final
Norway's Andreas Thorkildsen took home the gold on Saturday, with a final score of 90.57, a new olympic record. Silver went to Ainars Kovals, who represents Latvia, with a final score of 86.64, a new personal best for him. Tero Pitkamaki of Finland received bronze.

Men's 5000m final
With a final time of 12.57.82, a new olympic record, Kenenisa Bekele of Ethiopia took home gold in the 5000m dash. Following with silver and bronze was Kenya's Eliud Kipchoge and Edwin Cheruiyot Soi.

Women's Volleyball
Brazil took gold by defeating the United States (silver) 3-1 in the gold medal match of Women's Indoor Volleyball. China defeated Cuba 3-1 to take bronze.

Women's 1500m final
Kenya's Nancy Jebet Langat in the women's 1500m dash final won gold, had a time of 4.00.23, a personal best for her. She was followed by Ukraine's Iryna Lishchynska and Nataliya Tobias, with silver and bronze respectively.

Men's baseball
For baseball, in the men's gold game between Cuba and South Korea, South Korea prevailed with a score 2-3, over nine innings, with Cuba taking silver. For the bronze game, the United States came up against Japan and won with a final score 8-4, also over nine innings.

Men's 10m diving final
Australian Matthew Mitcham took home gold with a final score of 537.95 in men's 10m diving. He was followed by Luxin Zhou of China with silver, and Russian Gleb Galperin with bronze.

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Comments:US candidate Barack Obama announces Joe Biden as his running mate via text message

So we've Peter, when will we hear about the next 11 disciples? 68.189.148.241 17:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not
voting for Obama but Joe Biden is a good man and cares about the people. Plus the news found out Obama's running mate before the text messages were found out. --KDP3 (talk) 17:39, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Is this headline for real?
The person that wrote this headline SERIOUSLY needs to go take a journalism class. God I hate wiki Web sites that let anonymous users pretend to be know-it-alls. 68.12.110.233 —Preceding comment was added at 04:06, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

about Biden
i think he would be a good presidential running mate of Borack Obama. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.73.252.251 (talk) 14:49, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


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First Obama–Biden campaign rally held in Illinois, United States

August 23, 2008 Following Barack Obama's Saturday morning text-announcement of Joe Biden's vice presidential candidacy, a rally was held in Springfield, Illinois, at 3:00pm (UTC-5).

The rally was held on the steps of the Old State Capitol building in Springfield. In a email sent out to supporters of Obama who signed up on the Obama campaign website, Obama said that "Joe and I will appear for the first time as running mates this afternoon in Springfield, Illinois—the same place this campaign began more than 19 months ago."

The rally was broadcast at the official Obama campaign site, starting at 3pm (UTC-5), and carried by major cable news networks.

Springfield owns a piece of presidential history, having been the home of former President Abraham Lincoln after he moved there in 1837. He lived there for 17 years, before taking presidential office in 1861.


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Talk:First Obama–Biden campaign rally held in Illinois, United States

Original Reporting Notes:

At 3:31am ET this reporter received opt-in text message from Barack Obama campaign website. It reads: "Barack has chosen Senator Joe Biden to be our VP nominee.  Watch the first Obama-Biden rally live at 3pm ET on www.BarackObama.com.  Spread the word!"

At 5:41 am, received email datestamped "8/23/2008 4:53 AM" that reads:

Steven --

I have some important news that I want to make official.

I've chosen Joe Biden to be my running mate.

Joe and I will appear for the first time as running mates this afternoon in Springfield, Illinois -- the same place this campaign began more than 19 months ago.

I'm excited about hitting the campaign trail with Joe, but the two of us can't do this alone. We need your help to keep building this movement for change.

Please let Joe know that you're glad he's part of our team. Share your personal welcome note and we'll make sure he gets it:

http://my.barackobama.com/welcomejoe

Thanks for your support,

Barack

P.S. -- Make sure to turn on your TV at 2:00 p.m. Central Time to join us or watch online at http://www.BarackObama.com. --Blumrosen (talk) 18:00, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

former president?
"Springfield owns a piece of presidential history, having been the home of former President Abraham Lincoln after he moved there in 1837. He lived there for 17 years, before taking presidential office in 1861."

He was not a former president at the time he lived there.

Come to think of it, I don't think he ever was a former President. He was President and then he was a late President or a deceased President or an assassinated President. He never did anything as a former President.

Suggest: "Springfield owns a piece of presidential history, having been the home of Abraham Lincoln after he moved there in 1837. He lived there for 17 years, including the time of the Lincoln-Douglas debates. He continued to own his home and lease it to Lucian Tilton, president of the Great Western Railroad* when he became President in 1861." --Blumrosen (talk) 02:10, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * He, however, was a former presedent at the time the article was written. How he ceased to be president isn't salient to the article which, by being six years old, qualified for Archiving protection rather a long time ago. --Brian McNeil / talk 05:49, 2 September 2014 (UTC)


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User talk:80.101.95.211

Your recent edits
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Comments:Calls for bottled water bans grow in Canada

Thank You Canada!

Critic article
An article I read making critique of the move, stating that people won't have portable water available at work, because they won't have any empty bottles to fill from their water taps. It's true that so far we get the bottles from these companies. I don't think of a bad future with no bottles, I think these same companies will focus on making bottles more eco friendly, they will respond to demand, simply. Logictheo (talk) 20:59, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

This is ridiculous. I buy crates of mineral water in GLASS bottles, return them when they are empty and buy a new case. I avoid drinking tapped water, which usually has a bad taste of chlorine. There are countries where you can´t drink tapped water anyway. SAVE THE BOTTLED WATER ! As long as it is in glass bottles.

Rainer Ziegowski, Munich

This is ridiculous because it's the insane nanny-state at work. I Can't ride a bicycle on the sidewalk, can't drink bottled water, tell me not to smoke, tell me not to drink above X amount before I go home, etc.. Even if you accept utilitarian arguments, I heavily doubt the argument that states that the people who do these things are evil enough to warrant outright ban. Get a grip, stop being so childish, and live with the fact that some people may not want to do what you want to do. Fephisto (talk) 15:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Putting aside a ban on bottled water — which I think is stupid in the extreme — I'd like to see you say that about drunk drivers if one of them killed someone you loved while driving home. Or about bikers on pedestrian-only pathways when one of them makes a mistake and shoves you into the mud, or runs over you (cause the path wasn't designed for bikers + pedestrians, and is too narrow to accommodate both). If I get lung cancer because of YOUR smoking, am I allowed to kill you right back, any way I want? Cause you did it to me. Tit for tat, right? All that aside, I think that people should be able to do whatever they want, provided that they aren't interfering with others. If you want to smoke in your HOUSE (not apartment - house), then do so. It's no skin off my back, provided that you are banned from having health insurance so that you don't drive up my premiums. That affects me, therefore *I* have a say in it, as I should in everything that affects me.

 * I think what you're forgetting is that we live in a group. If you live by yourself, with no contact with anyone else, then sure, you can do whatever you want. But if you choose (and it is a choice) to live in a city, town, or village, instead of off in the middle of a forest somewhere (eating bark), then you have to compromise your will with that of everyone else. All relationships are made up of give and take, and a municipal relationship (or a national relationship), is no different than a marriage, a friendship, or even a roommate in this regard. You give and you take. And you compromise, cause that's what living with other people means. You let them squeeze the tube of toothpaste however they want even though it is annoying, cause it really doesn't have an effect on you. But if they don't wash their dishes? Then you can get mad, cause that affects you. And you have a right to a voice in anything that affects you. If you can't handle this, the compromising nature of the reality in which we live, then you truly have no place in the world. You have no choice except to become a hermit and live in the middle of nowhere. Gopher65talk 15:45, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad that people are starting to see the impact they can make and they have made on the environment as individuals. I know in the past that I've used my share of plastic water bottles, but from now on I'll do my very best to be like those people in London, Ontario who have agreed to forgo plastic water bottles for re-usable water bottles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.227.159 (talk) 20:23, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

This makes total sense. We've definitely reached the point where we need to put environmental issues above our own minor conveniences. Use a water filter at home to fill a re-usable water bottle. This will save money as well the environment in the long run and you still have safe water in a bottle. It's just that simple. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.107.249.60 (talk) 15:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I think we have to take in to account the fact of the fluoride in major cities drinking water. It is un-natural and does damage to the brain in doses. Yes there is very few ppm (parts per million)but after an extended period of time that intake of fluoride will cause harm to the body. If they ban bottled water which in some cases is the only source of pure water then we should also leave fluoride out of the drinking water aswell.
 * uhh... hate to burst your bubble, but the majority of bottled water is just water straight from the taps of major cities like London, England. It isn't any more "pure" than city water cause it *is* city water. Gopher65talk 14:38, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Dangerous precedent
This is a dangerous infringement on personal freedoms. What's next, no more milk in plastic bottles, no more soda? No more single servings of any kind? Limits to how many pairs of jeans it "reasonable" for one person to own? Should I be barred from drinking French wine, since wine is also made in other places closer to where I live? Should I buy an inferior digital camera just because it is made in my home country and has a smaller "ecological footprint"? These people should just recycle the plastic bottles and venture less into authoritarianism. --SVTCobra 00:12, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I agree. If they are really anxious to do something about the waste caused by shipping water around the world for no good reason they can just slap a tax on it. Things shouldn't be banned unless they cause direct, measurable harm to other people on an individual level. Cause really, everything causes harm on a societal or planetary level. Just living does that. You can't ban things for spread-out damage. Gopher65talk 14:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Turning point
The next turning point will be when these governments fairly ban all bottled and canned beverage containers. Why discriminate against water?? At least their bottles have twist off tops and are frequently re-filled and reused by the consumer. But these wasteful cola cans and beer bottles are one time use with a throw away mentality. Hurry Canadian legislators, ban all canned and bottle beverages. Make the citizens truly green and require them to collect all their liquids in gourds!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.144.80.109 (talk) 16:00, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Bottled Water Fascism
I think it is wrong for government to ban bottled water. Where will it end? Perhaps soda pop will be banned because it is little more than sugared water. If I were a government official I would find out why customers like bottled water then I would try to produce tap water with the same qualities as the demanded bottled water. Maybe people want to avoid fluoride, chlorine, and waste medicines in the water. If you're a city official who fluoridates the city water, and people are buying unfluoridated bottled, then I would take the fluoride out of the water. But forcing people to drink tap is wrong, and I fear for what else the government will force upon us.

bottled water
never bought it never will. we use reusable cuntainors and a inhouse filter. way to go canada

Water bottle ban
I do agree that plastic water bottles are not the way to go, and am anxious to give mine up. I've just not found a substitute (where I am). I tried a metal car mug - then realized it has a plastic lid, went with a thermos but it was not practical to use. So, can anyone recommend an all metal water bottle (not aluminum)? Biking weather is hitting and I'll need a water bottle for long rides.


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Isn't wikipedia free?

Yes but plagiarism is plagiarism, try submitting a wiki article as a school paper to see what happens. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.84.253.221 (talk) 20:23, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

 * The parent poster is right. This isn't a matter of copyright infringement, this is a matter of claiming authorship over someone else's work. Wikipedia is Free, as it is licensed under the GFDL. (:-) He should have said at the end of his speech "This speech is derived from Wikipedia, under GFDL 1.2 or later.") Ksd5 (talk) 21:17, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I really don't understand what all this is about. The point of Wikipedia is to be a source of information; it's not really like McCain was publishing an article and copied it wholesale from Wikipedia. The fact that a small fraction of a speech was lifted from Wikipedia should be encouraged rather than discouraged. I feel very dirty that we published this article: it really seems like we don't want to allow anyone to actually use Wikipedia content, at the same time as we complain about fair use complainers on Wikipedia. -- IlyaHaykinson (talk) 00:04, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The point of the licenses we use, on WN and WP, is to give credit to those who deserve it, at the same time allowing anyone anywhere to use the information. All people sometimes ask is they see the proper credit given. All they had to do was put Wikipedia down on the bottom. We ask everyone else to,, why would this be any different? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:09, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Sounds kind of moronic to call this plagiarism, if you ask me.

I've got a history degree, and stating basic historical facts for providing a historical context to a situation is NOT plagiarism. Out of the two examples giving in this article, only the first is a potential case of plagiarism, but is too basic and short (and not totally identical) to be any grounds for plagiarism by itself—think about it, how many drastically different ways could you paraphrase that sentence (which is, BTW, common knowledge (see ))? The second is not plagiaristic at all: the facts it contains are common knowledge, and the language is hardly identical. If stating the same facts in proximity of eachother was considered plagiarism, a great many (perhaps most) textbooks available today would be guilty of this! 75.14.217.51 01:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I agree, I do see similar wording, but not similar enough to be plagiarism. We might be reasonably sure he got the info from wikipedia, but he did paraphrase it, at least in the examples given in the article.  That just means he went to wikipedia to get his information; nothing special there, right?  On a related note...--24.152.160.67 07:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

So McCain has joined the ranks of college students everywhere by ripping off Wikipedia? Who cares. I mean seriously, it's not copyrighted, it's Wikipedia. Fire the intern who wrote that for being lazy and move on to important issues like foreign affairs and the economy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.123.81 (talk) 05:50, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, Wikipedia is copyrighted. It's just a more open sort of copyright.  75.14.217.51 06:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Wow...
I thought that only Pravda plagiarized Wikipedia... Live and learn... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.193.165.161 (talk) 11:16, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Wiki policies on "plagarism" really aren't very clear
While I don't support McCain in any way, I would point out that even if one gets around to finding and reading WP:copyrights it is rather confusing, for example with "see belows" that could point to a lot of different things. (I even had someone claiming it was against copy right to summarize info in one wiki article into another one!) Also, remember they might have gone to the original source and done their own summary of that - and we all know wikipedia summaries of articles themselves often verge on the same sort of "plagarism." So I think this article just causes more confusion about wikipedia in the world and even among editors than anything else. Not to mention one sentence might be written by four different editors; an article by a hundred. You really want to tell me they are ever going to get together and sue somebody?? Just doesn't make practical sense. I'd opine in the copyrights article but that talk page was so confusing I threw up my hands. 71.163.63.45 13:29, 24 August 2008 (UTC)Carolmooredc {talk}
 * Plagiarism has nothing directly to do with copyright. If I copy text from a public domain document, say the Magna Carta, and claim that it is my own original writing (or merely include it in amongst things which ARE my own writing without specifying that this section was copied) then it is plagiarism. Even if I reworded the passage I was using, but kept the same general order of presentation and/or a few turns of phrase... it is still plagiarism. Even if I then at the bottom tagged on, (Magna Carta)... still plagiarism since I didn't identify which parts were mine and which were copied.
 * At some level, the degree of similarity at which something becomes 'plagiarism' is subjective. However, McCain's speech is well past the level at which academic institutes would generally so label something. As can be seen by these examples or this actual case.
 * As to copyright... plagiarism of a copyrighted work is generally a copyright violation. All edits to Wikipedia articles are copyrighted, but released under the GNU Free Document License (GFDL). The GFDL is a form of 'copyleft', which basically waives most of the normal rights of authors so long as they are attributed and the GFDL license agreement applied to the re-use. McCain's speech did not attribute any of the information to Wikipedia. It did not include the text of the GFDL agreement. Ergo, it did not comply with and would not benefit from the copyright exclusions granted by the license. As such, it would likely be a copyright infringement of the same type as this court case. --CBDunkerson (talk) 12:57, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I realized that somewhat later and put a note on WP:copyright on this and other issues in the article they should make clearer. Encouraged them to read this page, too. 71.178.71.33Carolmooredc {talk} —Preceding comment was added at 17:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Obviously copied..
..in particular the second lengthy sentence. It is not mere general factual information as the McCain people claim, it is very specific wording and ordering of facts - the likelihood of it being coincidental seems very far fetched. If this was a professor and a student there would be ethical issues with plagiarism. Luckily for McCain, he is only a Presidential candidate, so he doesn't have the same standards of ethics as students. 72.66.109.190 14:06, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

The bigger picture
Plagiarism, in my view, is a silly and selectively applied concept usually valued in places where people want to patent and make money from information,ideas and thoughts or the expression thereof. Scott McNally of Sun Microsystems said years ago "there is no privacy; get over it" and I'd say the same thing about copyright and plagiarism in this new millenium. It's always hard to discard out dated concepts and rules but it's worse to cling onto them when they no longer serve any collective purpose and,indeed, conflict with the new collective mentality. So, I'll "plagiarize" McNally and say; "there is no plagiarism; get over it." Wishmaster68 (talk) 14:24, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * And here you just demonstrated why what you did isn't plagiarism. It is only plagiarism if you don't attribute what you're quoting OR paraphrasing. And paraphrasing something without attribution is indeed plagiarism. If we did that in our university and were caught, there was no warning, only instant expulsion. Copying is all fine and good. So is rewriting. I have no problem with that, and I think that few sane people do. It's copying with attribution that is the problem. No one should do that, ever. Even if it wasn't legally wrong, it is ethically wrong to claim someone else's work as your own. Always say where your ideas come from, whether it is legally required or not. Gopher65talk 15:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Seriously, have you seen many people attributing encyclopedias in their speeches :) ? As for verbatim quoting, all depends on the license. E.g. all the CC licenses require attribution, while public domain publications do not. Lysy (talk) 18:24, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Also note, his whole speech here . I only listed two examples. There are more but too many to list all of them in the article. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:31, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Good use of wikipedia
He made a good use of wikipedia. That's what an encyclopedia is for, expecially an open licenced one. I'm happy to see that wikipedia proved useful again and would promote furhter usage rather than complaining about "plagiarism". Lysy (talk) 18:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * *sighs* That's an acceptable use of an encyclopedia if you source what you're paraphrasing. That is what this is about: he paraphrased without attributing his sources. If he'd put a footnote in the written copy of his speech that said "this was taken from Wikipedia", then no one would have commented, except to exclaim in shock that a man as old as McCain can use a computer (or that his staffers can;)). Since he didn't, it's theft under the bloated, obnoxious copyright laws that nitwit helped pass into existence. It's kind of a "spider caught in its own web" kind of story. Gopher65talk 18:23, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * So if he did not attribute it, the assumption is that he invented Georgia himself ? Come one, people have to get their knowledge from somewhere and it's not practical to attribute every single statement ("I've heard on CNN on Thursday that there is a country named Georgia, then I went to check it up in my Britannica, and found there that it was in Europe etc." see, what I mean?) Lysy (talk) 18:31, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you completely rewrite information in your own words (especially if it general knowledge), then no attribution is required. If you quote or paraphrase, then you need to list your source(s). Gopher65talk 18:35, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think this is a bit extreme, as the information about Georgia's history is a general knowledge, not a result of some in-depth research by wikipedia. This said, however, I'm concerned that McCain campaign's spokesman denied the use of wikipedia when asked. Lysy (talk) 18:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Where did they say that? They denied they copied wikipedia, but i don't see where they ever denied using it as a source. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:58, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Because this information is common knowledge, if McCain plagiarized Wikipedia, then Wikipedia has also plagiarized its own sources on the matter, as it doesn't attribute them, either. 75.0.8.196 06:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh so all those references and al those sources at the bottom of articles are not attribution? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 06:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

A present for you all! - David Gerard (talk) 01:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hahaha:) Thanks for the link David Gerard. I love spoofs like that. Gopher65talk 01:53, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Definitely hilarious. 12.17.175.226 11:46, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Good for you Vector
I'm glad that someone had the balls to call him on it.
 * cheers*

If teenagers in high school know not to do this sort of stuff and can get sued for it, don't you think our political candidates should face the same scrutiny? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.217.204.74 (talk) 23:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Academic reports and political speeches are not in the same category. Look up plagiarism and see for yourself. --SVTCobra 23:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Copyleft
Find out who has the copyright on the wording and let him pressure McCain to release the whole speech under the GFDL, or better let him sue McCain for copyright enfringement. -- 213.39.230.254 03:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This article is shit. -- 213.39.230.254 03:56, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

McCain did not plagiarize
McCain did not plagiarize. One of the members of his army of speech writers may or may not have borrowed from a Wikipedia entry. But John McCain himself did not plagiarize. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.61.176.7 (talk) 03:01, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

"george Washington was the first president" comes up with over 13,000 instances when googled as a phrase. Are there 12,999 plagiarizers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.137.12 (talk) 18:55, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


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Small plane crashes in Utah, USA killing all aboard

August 23, 2008 A small twin engine Beechcraft King Air A-100 plane has crashed in Southeastern Utah near Arches National Park killing all 10 people aboard. The plane crashed shortly after takeoff from Canyonlands Field airport at around 5:55 p.m. (mountain time) on Friday evening.

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is currently investigating the cause of the crash. According to James Nyland of the Grand County Sheriff's department, there was no bad weather and winds were minimal when the plane crashed and burst into flames two miles from the airport.

The nine passengers were part of a group of dermatologists from Cedar City. The director of Red Canyon Aesthetics & Medical Spa, Dr. Lansing Ellsworth, and his eight staff members were all killed, along with the pilot, David White.

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Eight mountaineers missing on Mont Blanc in French Alps after avalanche

August 24, 2008 Rescue crews have called an end to the search for eight mountaineers who went missing on the French side of Mont Blanc after an avalanche that occurred on at 0100 GMT August 24. Eight other climbers were also injured. Five of the missing are said to be Austrian and three were from Switzerland.

"[There is] no longer any chance of finding someone alive," stated the interior minister of France, Michele Alliot-Marie who also added that are more people trapped beneath the snow. "Thanks to technology, we know for certain there are people buried under the snow, but it's impossible to be sure exactly how many."

Rescuers feared that there would be more avalanches and decided to end the search for survivors in the late afternoon today. The avalanche started at an elevation of 3,600 meters and went down the mountainside for nearly 100 meters, leaving a trail 50 meters wide. Rescuers used helicopters and dogs to search for survivors for a day, but failed to find any.

"[I saw] a wall of ice coming towards us and then we were carried 200 metres," said one of the survivors from Italy, Marco Delfini who also said he tried to help the others caught in the snow.

There have been many accidents in the Alps this summer, about one hundred climbers have perished since June 1 in France, Italy and Switzerland altogether, of whom about twenty have died on Mont Blanc.


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Cuban athlete banned for life after attack on referee during Olympics

August 24, 2008 Cuban Taekwondo athlete Ángel Matos was banned for life yesterday after an assault on Swedish referee Chakir Chelbat during the 2008 Beijing Olympic games. Matos was competing in the bronze medal match against Arman Chilmanov of Kazakhstan when he sustained an injury. As he lay on the mat with medical attendants, Matos was disqualified for exceeding the one minute injury time limit. When Chilmanov was declared the winner of the bout, Matos delivered a kick to the face of Chelbat. Touch judges rushed in to try to control the situation. Matos pushed one of them and then spat on the floor. Both Matos and his coach Leudis Gonzalez were banned for life from all official Taekwondo events for their behavior in the incident.

The World Taekwondo Federation released a statement referring to the incident as a "strong violation of the spirit of Taekwondo and the Olympic Games". They also called for all records of Matos to be removed from the Olympic records. Later coach Leudis Gonzalez claimed the Kazaks offered him money to lose the bout. WTF secretary general Yang Jin-suk said "due process must be followed before officially banning the two."

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Beijing 2008 Olympics comes to a close

August 24, 2008 The 2008 Summer Olympics were formally declared closed during at the iconic  with the Olympics flag being handed over to the Mayor of London Boris Johnson. It began at 8:00 P.M. China Standard Time (UTC+8), and took place at the.

People's Republic of China topped the medals table at the Beijing Olympics with 51 golds while the United States of America came second with 36 and the Russian Federation finished third with 23.

International Olympic Committee President declared the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games closed on Sunday.

"You have shown us the unifying power of sport," he told athletes in the National Stadium. "The world learned about China — and China learned about the world," he said. "And now, in accordance with tradition, I declare the Games of the XXIX Olympiad closed, and I call upon the youth of the world to assemble four years from now in London to celebrate the Games of the XXX Olympiad."

The Beijing Olympics lasted 16 days at the Olympic Village during which athletes from 204 countries participated in 38 contests for 302 gold medals. Host China maintained its supremacy on the medals table right from the beginning to the end of the Games.

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Pastor Michael Guglielmucci admits his cancer was a hoax; videos being removed from YouTube

August 25, 2008

A former Christian Pastor Michael Guglielmucci has admitted that his cancer is a hoax. Wikinews has also learned that one of the churches he preached at has had videos showing his claims of cancer removed from YouTube, claiming copyright infringement. He has also admitted to being addicted to pornography for over 16 years.

For at least two years, Gugliemucci claimed to have leukaemia. Reports say that he received an unknown amount of money through donations for his treatments and even released an compact disc album single titled 'Healer'.

YouTube began removing the videos after the Hillsong Church in Sydney, one of the churches Gugliemucci preached at, began to claim they were in violation of copyright laws. Those videos reportedly had shown Gugliemucci speaking about his cancer and also included a video from his hit single album Healer. Some videos even showed him wearing an oxygen mask while he was performing his sermon. According to reports, several attempts to re-upload his videos to YouTube was quickly met with the site removing the videos under claims that they violate copyright laws.

Wikinews has contacted the church, its publishing company, and YouTube for a statement regarding the removal of the videos, but has yet to receive a response.

After the announcement of Gugliemucci's hoax, his father Danny released a statement saying that his son will undergo professional treatment for his "sins."

"Michael is struggling with a different kind of illness and is receiving professional help and will do so as long as is needed. On the counsel and advice of our executive and board, after our up and coming Edge conference, we will take time to be with Mike and get him all the professional and spiritual help he needs to come to full recovery," said Danny Gugliemucci in a statement to the press.

"In September in 2006, Mike had an accident and went to hospital. It was at this time, because of his torment of living a double life, Mike thought he could escape the pain by creating a diversion from his addiction to adult pornography, so he created the cancer scenario," added Danny.

Michael Guglielmucci was the former youth pastor at Planetshakers City Church, but was released from the church almost 19 months ago before moving back to Adelaide then to Hillsong Church in Sydney Australia.


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Incorrect information: Michael Guglielmucci was the former youth pastor at Planetshakers City Church he was relased from the church almost 19 months ago before moving back to Adelaide then to Hillsong Church in Sydney Australia. Saying that he was an active pastor of Planetshakers is incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.29.141 (talk) 12:44, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

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I was informed that the pastors videos were being removed from YouTube because of copyright infringement, but they were removed, from what my source tells me, because they made the church look bad. The church/company is: Hillsong Church. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 16:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Here is the youtube link to where the videos used to be: Sorry its a lllooonnnggg link. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 16:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I e-mailed the church and its publishing company at around 1:00 p.m. (eastern time). DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:07, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * And e-mailed youtube as well. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

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Afghan government: More than 90 civilians killed by US airstrike

August 24, 2008

Nematullah Shahrani, the Afghan government minister, has said that an investigation found that more than 90 civilians were killed in American led NATO air strikes early Friday in Azizabad, a village in province. "Most are women and children" She continued: "They have claimed that Taliban were there. They must prove it, so far, it is not clear for us why the coalition conducted the air strikes."

Lt. Col. Rumi Nielson-Green, a spokeswoman for the U.S. military, said 30 Taliban insurgents were killed. The operation targeted a local Taliban commander, Mullah Siddiq. "We're confident that we struck the right compound," she said.

Brig. Gen. Richard Blanchette, a spokesman for NATO in Afghanistan, said investigators verified the deaths of five civilians. Probably relatives of the Taliban commander but the casualty numbers released by Afghan officials has not been confirmed by NATO.

Raouf Ahmedi, a spokesman for the western regional command of the Afghan army, said that the bodies of 60 children and 19 women were among the dead when Afghan military officials inspected the site on Saturday. "We couldn't and we haven't found any identification showing they are Taliban," Ahmedi said. Conflicting reports had earlier stated that a Taliban commander, Mullah Siddiq, was among those killed in the airstrike.

La'l Mohammad Omarzaisaid, district chief, said the bombed houses belonged to men who worked as security guards at an airstrip used by international troops that is 120km south of the city of. Many of the dead had, in accordance with Afghan tradition, gathered to mark the 40th day since the killing of a militia commander. Ahmad Nader Nadery, an Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission researcher, said 15 houses had been destroyed and others were damaged. He also confirmed that memorial ceremony was being held for Timor Shah, deputy militia commander allied with the Afghan police. The death was related to a personal dispute. The memorial had attracted relatives and friends from outside Azizabad that were staying overnight in the village.

General Jalandar Shah Behnam, the head of the corps for western Afghanistan, and commando major Abdul Jabar were fired for "negligence and concealing facts," by Hamid Karzai, Afghanistan's president. The presidential decree also stated that "[i]n the tragic air strike and irresponsible and imprecise military operation in Azizabad village in Shindand district, more than 89 of our innocent countrymen, including women and children, were martyred." Karzai had earlier appealed to the U.S. led coalition to avoid civilian casualties and be careful.

In a statement the council of religious leaders for western Afghanistan said "Once again the enemies of Islam have stained their hands with the blood of innocent people ... we, the Muslim nation, will not accept their apologies this time," and demanded a trial for those involved. A demonstration on Saturday by villagers and relatives of the victims used banners that read "Death to America" and a police van was torched.

Recently an Afghan investigation found that around 47 civilians, most of them women, were killed on July 6 in coalition air strikes when they gathered for a wedding.


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Passenger plane traveling to Iran crashes in Kyrgyzstan, killing 68

August 24, 2008

An Itek-Air Boeing 737 flight 6875, operated by Aseman Airlines and traveling to Iran has crashed in Kyrgyzstan only 10 minutes after taking off. It is unclear how many were on board, but reports say there were at least 90 people on the plane with the crash killing 68. At least 22 are reported to have survived, including all crew members.

"According to updated information, 68 passengers were killed, including 24 Kyrgyz, five Iranians, one Turkish national, three Canadians, three Kazakhs and one Chinese," said a spokesman for Igor Chudinov, Kyrgyzstan's prime minister.

Reports state that members of the crew reported "technical issues" with the plane shortly after take off from Manas International Airport in Kyrgyzstan. Within 10 minutes the crew reported a severe loss of cabin pressure. When the plane made an emergency landing, it burst into flames. The plane was headed to Tehran, Iran.

The United States military has sent rescue equipment and crews from its base at the airport to assist the government in the incident.


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Gladys Powers, last female veteran of World War I dies age 109

August 25, 2008 The world's last remaining female World War I (WWI) veteran Gladys Powers died on Friday age 109. She was also the last WWI veteran living in Canada. She died at her home in Abbotsford, British Columbia. The last Canadian-born veteran, John Babcock, currently resides in the United States.

Gladys Stokes Luxford Powers born in Lewisham, County of London, England and joined the Women's Army Auxiliary Corps at the age of 15 as a barracks waitress. She later transferred to the Women's Royal Air Force. It was during her service that she met her first husband, a Canadian soldier named Edward Luxford, in a hospital while she visited her brother. They later moved to Calgary, Alberta, where Powers gained Canadian citizenship, and the pair later divorced. Powers married three additional times, outliving all of her three other husbands. Since 1992 she had lived in Abbotsford.

Powers became the last surviving female World War I veteran after the death of Charlotte Winters in March 2007. She was also the last to live in Canada after Dwight Wilson also died in 2007. Powers is the 11th World War I veteran to die in 2008. There are twelve WWI veterans remaining worldwide, with a further four WWI-era veterans; there are also two unverified WWI veterans living.


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Talk:Beijing 2008 Olympics comes to a close

There is a Point of View problem, the writer says Host Nation China dominated the medal table....well partly true..they dominated the gold medal count...the medal table is overall medals and the US had the most medals...this is reported.

 * Why "comes" to a close? Isn't "Olympics" a plural? Thanx. notafish 10:45, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


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Felipe Massa wins 2008 European Grand Prix

August 24, 2008

Ferrari driver Felipe Massa won the FIA Formula One 2008 Telefónica Grand Prix of Europe at the street circuit of Valencia, Spain on Sunday after his engine failed on a dying laps of the previous race. It became 10th win in Formula One for the Brazilian driver.

His victory was approved by stewards when after the race they had investigated his second pit stop on lap 37 and ruled a fine to Massa without any further sanctions for a potential collision with Adrian Sutil (Force India’) while exitting from the pitlane.

Lewis Hamilton performed well driving for McLaren Mercedes as he fell behind Massa by just about 5 seconds on the finish line.

The three podium places to be exactly like they were on a starting grid, as Pole Robert Kubica came third for BMW Sauber with a substantial 30 seconds gap to Hamilton.

Hamilton's teammate Heikki Kovalainen drove fourth after Kimi Räikkönen's Ferrari engine failed on a 45th lap. A lap earlier Kimi had an incident on a second pit-stop, when he knocked-off the mechanic fueling his car after he twitched earlier trying to beat Kovalainen, who was also on his pit-stop.

Jarno Trulli came 5th for Toyota overtaking Toro Rosso of Sebastian Vettel who will be driving for Red Bull next season.

The second Toyota of Timo Glock and Nico Rosberg's Williams-Toyota closed the top eight.

The only Spaniard in the race, Fernando Alonso (Renault) was forced to retire after Kaz Nakajima (Williams) hit him from behind and damaged the back of Renault.


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WWI-era veterans
What does it exactly mean? I tried looking it up at wikipedia but couldn't find the meaning. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 22:45, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's right there in one of the wikilinks in this article:). It seems to mean that they were soldiers from around the time period that WWI took place, but that they didn't actually fight in the war for whatever reason (serving elsewhere I'd assume, or in a neutral country). Gopher65talk 05:09, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I missed that, I should have looked harder. But I added the wikilink to the section because there always a chance that somebody else will have the same problem. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 15:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


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Mike Guglielmucci is NOT the youth pastor at Planetshakers, this is incorrect information. Please get your facts right!
 * He was at one time though, wasn't he? Gopher65talk 01:27, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Michael Guglielmucci was the former youth pastor at Planetshakers City Church he was relased from the church almost 19 months ago before moving back to Adelaide then to Hillsong Church in Sydney Australia. Saying that he was an active pastor of Planetshakers is incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.29.141 (talk) 12:44, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

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i, too, have a porn addiction, but will not be seeking treatment. - Imind (talk) 17:12, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I went to soul survivor this year and we all prayed for him to get better.... now this has come to the surface i feel really decieved. however i will still be praying for him because he is in even more need of it now i think he is forgiven in gods eyes and that is all that matters M.D x —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.196.5.21 (talk) 09:27, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

 * will he not get better w/o your prayers? - Imind (talk) 18:23, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Matheus Campos (BRASIL)
I don´t know how to write in English very well, but i will try to say in poor words what I think about this. I know the father of lies is the devil, but know also that the father´s love and forgiveness is the Lord God all-powerful to heal, is a cancer or a lie. Do not look for the lie, but for the cure...because what matters is that whatever the crime, Jesus Christ is ready to forgive. Who are we to accuse? Peace be with you, I ask prayers for the Brazilian nation. We are praying for you!

he cure because of his faith —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.47.25 (talk) 02:33, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

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About Michael Guglielmucci I would say Roman 8:28 worked for him, Jesus is really healing Him for a new life. He was living a lie and now He is getting better and by confessing I believe the "song" your my healer really healed him, and is still healing him from the struggles he is going through. I can't cast a stone on him because am not perfect either, but, I will continue to pray for Him for total healing. Just as He say "Jesus your all I need" my God! Guys don't you see the miracle in this man's life. What would Jesus do cast Him out or love Him. That song is great for I know the God I serve save's and He has saved him. To me this song show the power of Jesus Christ and how much He love Him. God rebukes those HE loves. Jesus Love's you and He will continue healing you. Math 9: 12 on hearing this, Jesus said, "it is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. And He is your healer. Suzan

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JESUS REMAINS OUR HEALER, that is what matters to me, and I beilive for Mike whatever it is Jesus remains the love of our lives. And non of us can say we have been true to Him no one but because He loves us He has remained true to us, so I guess its all about Him.The song was actualy very impacting to me. He remains King

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pastor michael estamos juntos!!o cair é do homem o levantar é de DEUS!!!!não se abata,se cure e volte para a guerra!!!o senhor é contigo!!!!

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I ADMIRE MIKE'S COURAGE TO ADMIT THE TRUTH AND CORRECT EVERYTHING...He may have done a mistake...But who does'nt...I am a devout Catholic...I was saved by Christ too...Mike...You are saved...Please do not loose heart...I believe, your work was directed by the Holy Spirit. We all need to pray for each other...All of us who have been saved by Christ. —202.156.11.10 (talk) 18:56, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

All I can say is that the man is good but just made a mistake, thought of how he must have felt and found him a poetic short story check innermostworlds.blogspot.com and the title is "words I never should have said, a true blessing." its tough to do the right thing and only God is capable of full forgiveness.


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 * ✅ Study: Arctic ice could be gone by 2020
 * ✅ NASA: Arctic Sea's icecap is melting
 * ✅ NASA: Old Arctic sea ice continues to melt
 * ✅ Canadian Conservatives vow to defend Arctic sovereignty
 * ✅ Ice shelf breaks free in Canadian Arctic
 * ✅ Arctic ice cap shrank sharply this summer
 * ✅ New Canadian leader vows to push Canadian sovereignty over the Arctic Passage
 * ✅ Arctic ice levels at record low opening Northwest Passage
 * ✅ Pollution in Arctic carried by seabirds
 * ✅ Russia claims North Pole by planting flag on seabed
 * ✅ US says polar bears are threatened species
 * ✅ The North Pole may possibly be ice free by summer
 * ✅ Seeds placed in Norwegian vault as agricultural 'insurance policy'
 * ✅ US Senate blocks Alaska refuge drilling
 * ✅ Warming oceans make it harder for fish to breathe
 * ✅ British sailor resumes around-the-world voyage after stop in Hawaii
 * ✅ Two UK sailors killed in submarine accident
 * ✅ Polar bears reviewed to become "threatened" species
 * ✅ Man becomes first to swim at North Pole
 * ✅ PBS show asserts greenhouse gases, atmospheric pollutants dimming future
 * ✅ Russian commander: Tu-160s penetrate US airspace undetected
 * ✅ US senators on Greenland tour
 * ✅ The White Stripes to tour 'Great White North'
 * ✅ Police officer shot dead in Canadian Arctic community
 * ✅ Norwegian whaling season starts with highest quota in a decade

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Margaret Thatcher suffering from dementia, says daughter

August 25, 2008 Carol Thatcher, the daughter of the former Prime Minister of Britain Margaret Thatcher, has revealed that her mother is suffering from dementia.

The revelation is to be published in Carol's memoirs titled A Swim-On Part in the Goldfish Bowl: A Memoir, which is to go on sale in September. In them, Carol states that her mother's illness is "a case of classic dementia, coupled with a series of mini-strokes." Mrs Thatcher suffered several strokes in 2002, but suffered no short term memory loss as a result. Carol states that the signs of her illness began to take effect in 2000.

"As she became increasingly frail, many of her friends and colleagues became extraordinarily considerate when dealing with the new Lady T. The woman who had dominated discussions for so long could no longer lead debates or keep up with the thread of a drinks-party conversation," wrote Carol who also said that at times Mrs Thatcher forgets that her late husband Denis is dead. He died in June of 2003 from complications of pancreatic cancer.

"I had to keep giving her the bad news again and again. Every time it finally sank in that she had lost her husband of more than 50 years, she’d look at me sadly and say ‘Oh’," states Carol in her memoirs.

Margaret Thatcher is currently 82. She was born on October 13, 1925, and served as the Prime Minister of the U.K. for 11 years, from 1979 to 1990.


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What is the guideline for using first names? I know it would be hard to differentiate between mother and daughter, but I highly doubt the way to approach the former PM is with her given name, Margaret. Thoughts? -Wpktsfs (talk) 03:24, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


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A government spokeswoman in Kyrgyzstan says 71 people are dead. Government spokeswoman Roza Daudova said 24 people survived the crash. 71.35.123.240 06:59, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


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Syrian Jamat prepares to welcome Mawlana Hazar Imam on his Golden Jubilee visit

Ass’en Street in Salamieh decorated in green, red and golden colours to welcome Mawlana Hazar Imam. Photo: Yamen Mahmoud FarhaOn 24 August 2008, Mawlana Hazar Imam will arrive in Syria, and during his time here, he will meet with President Bashar Al-Assad, various government officials, as well as faith and civil society leaders. Hazar Imam will also grant Golden Jubilee Darbars in Salamieh and Al-Khawabi. It has been nearly seven years since Mawlana Hazar Imam last visited the Syrian Jamat. The enthusiasm and excitement are building as the Jamat looks forward to the upcoming Darbars.

In anticipation of Mawlana Hazar Imam’s visit, residents of Salamieh, both from the Jamat and others, have decorated the town for this happy occasion. In the local Ismaili Council hall, traditional folk dances, parties and weddings are also taking place as part of the celebrations. One of the highlights included the presentation of Sada Alrooh (Soul’s Echo) performed by Hala, an ensemble of local young students, at the National Council’s open air theatre. The performance conveyed messages of a common humanity and peace, deepening the sentiment behind the celebrations.

The Hala ensemble in cooperation with the Ismaili Council for Syria present “Sada Alrooh” at the occasion of Mawlana Hazar Imam’s Golden Jubilee. Photo: Yamen Mahmoud FarhaOver 100 000 people are expected to attend the Darbar in Salamieh, including Jamati members from around the world. The local Jamat is looking forward to hosting them. Esmaeel Al Yazaji, the head of the local communications committee, noted that some 5 000 volunteers are working on various committees to help with a wide range of tasks before, during and after the visit.

In Damascus, the Youth and Sports portfolio organised a series of workshops to prepare the youth for the visit. At the culmination of the last workshop, the participants sat around the edge of a large room at the local Council office. Each participant then made a special Golden Jubilee wish or prayer for the Imam, the Jamat and the world at large. Upon expressing their wish, each lit a candle from the flame from the previous person’s candle, symbolically expressing the notion of unity through one light.

Youth in Damascus offer Golden Jubilee wishes as they light candles and place them in a formation that spells “Golden Jubilee” in Arabic. Photo: Courtesy of Ismaili Council for SyriaOnce everybody had spoken and the candles were lit, the group sang Arabic qasidas (devotional poetry) while each participant, in turn, placed their candle on a table in the centre of the room in a formation that spelt “Golden Jubilee” in Arabic. An emotional scene followed as the participants embraced one another and bid farewell, knowing that the next time they would meet would be in Salamieh for the highly anticipated Golden Jubilee Darbar.

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It's kind of sad that that era is coming to an end. I can't imagine all of the things that they've seen. I mean, people who grew up in that era must've been born knowing horses, carts, and a style that (as much as I know from history books) seems medieval. And then to grow up in a century of untold war, along with planes, computers, the automobile, electricity, etc.. In other words, it sure sounds like (and I hope it was) one hell of an exciting life. Fephisto (talk) 12:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I still can't get over doing things with a slide rule and steam engine, and ending up a century later with an almost completely electronic machine. Fephisto (talk) 12:24, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

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Pakistan's governing coalition breaks apart

August 28, 2008 The governing coalition of Pakistan split on Monday after Nawaz Sharif, former Pakistani Prime Minister, pulled his party, the Pakistan Muslim League (N) (PML-N), out of the government.

The coalition formed in March 2008 after the Pakistani general election failed to produce a party that had held a majority in Pakistan's parliament. The group consisted of the PML-N and the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP). The coalition controlled 50.2 percent of Pakistan's National Assembly and together held 15 of 100 seats in Pakistan's Senate.

The PPP and the PML-N disagree on two main issues: the reinstatement of judges fired by former President Pervez Musharraf and a nominee for President of Pakistan in the Pakistani presidential election on September 6, 2008. Musharraf resigned last week. Muhammad Mian Soomro, as chairman of the Senate, became the interim President.

The PPP opposes the restoration of judges, who they believe would invalidate the ruling which allowed PPP party leader Asif Zardari and his late wife Benazir Bhutto to return to the country. If the amnesty were to be nullified, Zardari could be indicted on corruption charges stemming from incidents as far back as 1990. Zardari was also accused of corruption in the United Kingdom but the case was dropped in March.

For the presidential election, the PML-N nominated former Supreme Court chief justice, Saeeduzzaman Siddiqui, while the PPP nominated Zardari. Other people who have filed paperwork to stand in the elections are: Sakhawat Ali, Advocate Shakil Ahmed, Dr Mian Ehsan Bari, Ameer Ali Patti Walla and Mirza Asif Baig.


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What? No shitstorm breaking lose? Thougt ppl would go mad when I reported about one more US signed clusterfuck. international (talk) 14:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

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Azamishaque (talk) 05:25, 23 September 2008 (UTC) Ok Fine, Thanks

Good to have a descent Pakistani on Wikinews
Welcome to Wikinews. Need anything let me know, and I am glad a Pakistani is on wikinews. Regards, H.Mirza, Great Gran s/o Iskander Mirza Frist President of Pakistan. User:iDangerMouse. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.71.61.137 (talk) 17:34, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Re H Mirza
Thanks for appreciation and nice to see you, what are you doing nowadays, well I think you should join wikinews and contribute your work. Azamishaque (talk) 10:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I am on wikinews :) Do most of the spellings checks etc... -- Danger^Mouse (talk) 11:20, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I am in Karachi, and Iran mostly... sorry :) Danger^Mouse (talk) 11:42, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

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Welcome back!
Oe agya hai barway wapis. Poora ek saal kha ghaib tha?? Chal jaldi se india won world cup pe article likh.

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Biography
Azam Ishaque is a Computer Engineer. He did his Computer Engineering from COMSATSIslamabad Pakistan and currently doingPhd in Engineering Management from Center for Advance Studies in Engineering
 * Who: M Azam Ishaque
 * Born:5th February,1986
 * Where: Islamabad, Pakistan
 * When: Since 2007 working with Pakistan Wikipedia Project
 * What: Working as a Assistant System Analyst
 * Why: I love news and I hope my contributions make a difference.

He registered with Wikinews on or around July, 2008.

He began serving as an active member of Pakistan Wikipedia Project. through January,2008.

He loves news and current affairs, He has a big interest in politics and law as well as environmental issues.

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 * Pakistani nuclear scientist released from house arrest
 * Earthquake hits Kermadec Islands North of New Zealand
 * Harvard Law School gives its highest honour to Pakistani judge
 * Pakistan wins Fortune Cup defeating West Indies by 3-0
 * India's flag landed on Moon
 * Taliban in Pakistan captures convoy bound for NATO troops
 * Barack Obama elected 44th President of the United States
 * Deadly quake hits southwestern Pakistan
 * Asian stock markets slide; Nikkei at lowest level since '82
 * India's first lunar mission launched
 * Several injured in suicide bomb blast near police lane, Islamabad
 * Over 100 people die in stampede at Hindu temple near Jodhpur, India
 * Seventeen killed in Syrian car bomb blast
 * President Bush: U.S. respects Pakistan's sovereignty
 * Pakistan's Capital: Islamabad rocked by Bomb blast
 * Dr. Aafia’s son freed by Kabul, flown to Islamabad
 * Asif Ali Zardari sworn in as President of Pakistan
 * Asif Ali Zardari elected as President of Pakistan
 * Pakistan's governing coalition breaks apart

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Comments:Dr. Phil's consultation meant to be private: Spears family

Going beyond what would have been a humiliation to the Spears Family could have caused alot of damage, unlike Kevin Federline has done to as well by ruining his own flesh and blood's Mother. If I were a father to 2 kids, I would have never have done that to anyone at all


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User:Maikking

 * I'm a sysop and bureaucrat on Polish Wikipedia.

 * Polish Wikipedia:Changing username
 * Polish Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations

Please contact me on my home wiki.

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US presidential race tied as the Democratic National Convention starts

August 26, 2008 United States presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain are statistically tied according to the latest Day to Day Politics Poll Average as the 2008 Democratic National Convention starts today. The 7-day average shows that the difference between the two candidates is within the margin of error of 0.82%: Barack Obama is polling at 46.4% and John McCain is at 44.8%.

The Gallup Poll for the last two days has the candidates tied at 45%. The lead for Obama has dropped since mid-August when it reached its peak for the month at a 3.1% margin.

Obama has recently added Senator Joe Biden to his nomination ticket. Polls show that only 54% of registered voters believe that Joe Biden is an excellent or good choice for Obama's running mate.

Hillary Clinton is expected to release her delegates to Barack Obama on Wednesday. Clinton's supporters are split on Obama's choice of Biden over Clinton as vice presidential nominee. Polls show that fewer than half of Hillary Clinton supporters are sold on Obama as the Democratic presidential nominee.

The Day to Day Politics Poll Average for the past week used the Gallup Tracking poll, the Rasmussen Tracking poll, the CNN poll, the USA Today/Gallup poll, Fox, ABC /Post, and CNN.


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Isn't this a dup of Template:Proposed policy ? Cirt (talk) 18:45, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
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Isn't this a dup of Category:Proposed policies ? Cirt (talk) 18:46, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

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