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Comments:Kosovo seeks recognition as independent state

I am an American and I do not support, nor can I rationalize, our country's decision to support Albanian independence.

The fact is that Kosovo is part of Serbia. Furthermore, Kosovo has been part of Serbia for a long time. And, I mean a long long time, even before the United States of America was founded. (Kosovo is the part of Serbia that, in 1389, Serbia defended against the Ottoman Empire.) It's their heritage, their history and their home.

This is a unjust situation. Here's an analogy to help illustrate my point.

The Southern USA (e.g. Kosovo) becomes over populated with illegal Mexican immigrants who multiply rapidly (e.g. the Albanian immigrants) and then the Mexicans (e.g. Albanians) decide America belongs to them and they want declare independence.

Next, the world's highly motivated superpowers, China (e.g. USA) and the Asian Union (e.g. European Union), intercede declaring that, indeed, the Southern USA rightfully belongs to the Mexicans.

 * Argentina should try this trick with Las Malvinas. Fephisto - (talk) 14:55, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Fellow Americans! Wouldn't your stomach turn if this happened to us? Independent Kosovo is an injustice.

Furthermore, many things just don't make sense. For example, just last year ethnic Albanian terrorists attacked Fort Dix: []

Ummm.... Why are we now helping terrorists steal land?

I commend the Serbian government and Serbian people who remain relatively calm and are trying to deal with this diplomatically and through peaceful means.

 * As far as I know, the southern USA's Mexican population is a minority, whereas Kosovo has had an Albanian majority for, like, 100 years. The Albanians declared independence because the Serbs abused them. When, in the course of human events...204.52.215.107 07:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * and, yes, I am also an American. 204.52.215.107 07:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Indeed, you appear to be American, writing from Rutgers University. I've also noticed you have been making a number of anti-Serbian edits lately (e.g. ). So, you seem very adamant about your views.

 * However, the problem with your minority/majority rebuttal is that the majority Albanian population have arrived in Kosovo by illegal immigration. This is perfectly clear from my analogy -- "... becomes over populated with illegal Mexican immigrants ...".  Please read the analogy before submitting comments.

 * Furthermore, observe the following comparison with your own numbers. You claim Albanians have been there for 100 years. However, Kosovo has been part of Serbia for more than 619 years (i.e. 2008 - 1389).  So, you have made a very weak (almost pointless) claim.  Moreover, illegal immigration does not give the Albanians claim to the region, just as it would not give a majority of illegal Mexican immigrants the right to claim Texas.  Yes, unfortunately, my analogy still holds water and it's a real shame too.

 * Finally, I'd like to comment on your remark about Serbians "abusing" Albanians. I suppose you consider it abuse for the Serbian government to expect Albanians to learn Serbian language in Serbian schools.  Or, maybe you except these illegal Albanian aliens to have unlimited access to Serbia's universal health care.  Serbia is a poor country and cannot be expected to support the some 2 million Albanian's who have entered their country illegally.  As far as past violence goes, It's not as simple as the media presents it.  It's a two way street, with killings on both sides.  One thing is clear, however, the Albanians are the aggressors.
 * A perfect analogy, because states like California or Texas have always been a part of the United States... Oh, I hear they were not. It seems like they declared independence when they weren't satisfied with Mexican rule. Intriguing... --+Deprifry+ 13:53, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Kosovo was serbian forever huh? I suppose you know but deny the fact that serbians came from the Caucasus and settled in the balkans, plus if serbia is a poor country to support the "illegal" albanians, how come it could send the military to them and make war with almost all the republics of yugoslavia, apart from that, nothing can justify an exodus, especially not illegal emigration, plus appart from wanting the albanians to learn serbian they didn't let them use their national symbols, so please do not comment if you do not know what you are talking about --Cradel (talk) 21:21, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Nice try, but that was a very different kind of thing. Let's not forget that Spain's claim over Texas was tenuous.  At the time, the French had equal right to call Texas part of France.  (The Native American's had even more right to the land.)  Spain tried to setup missions there in 1691, but they failed and it was not resettled until 1716 before joining the USA in 1845.  So, let's see, that's about 129 years of settlement. And that's it--just settlement.  Texas was not the heartland of Spain nor anything close.  It was just a frontier.   It was an ambitious expansion project. :-)   On the other hand, Kosovo has been a region of Serbia for over 619 years.  And, it is not an expansion project.  It's the heartland of Serbia.  Therefore, it's a reasonable case to question what is going on in Kosovo.  And... of course... my analogy still holds.

Kosova can cause international war between Russia and the US becuase of the Serbs' declaration that Russia can stop USA in all ways. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.138.50.93 (talk) 00:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

 * No. In fact, all parties involved, including Russia, are focusing on a peaceful diplomatic approach.

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There is a condition that no one seems to not talk about. i have tried to reseach extensively on it but i never get any answers and i really wonder wheather society is ignorant to this condition or it is one of the taboos of society but i however have decided to put it in the open for discussion and i really hope many people will respond and reseach around the subject. there is a condition in which one does not have any sexual appetite, this is a condition that does not occur as a result of psychological tensions or any past unkind or unfavourable sexual advance.but one is just born without any homornes that allow them to experience this act. one goes through puberty alright but nothing can make them feel or respond to any physical action nomatter how much they want to or how deeply thay love the individual.i know most people are thinking that this is not possible or it is due to a psychological matter but the writer is writting from experience. i am 20 years old and i have never experienced what it is like to be turned on i have even had sex many times with people i truly loved and have faked to feel somethingbut my blood is just cold.i have never known what it is like to have my blood rush through my veins, not even any sexual method or position has helped. ever since puberty, i have tried to find a solution to this but to no avail as everyone believes it is just a psychological condition but i have strong reasons to believe it is an inborn homornal defect that may not be common but is 110% there. so can the world shut this as if it is not there? scientists, reseachers get out there and do something about this and find solutions to problems that affect nomatter how small a percentage of community. i have accepted this state and ive been living with it but that does not remove that ray of hope that just what if... this could be someones scientific breakthrough so please someone out there GET UP AND DO SOMETHING!!!

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It was definitely good to see such a successful All-Star Weekend. After last year's debacle in New Orleans, it's refreshing to get nothing but positives from the NBA. --Theirishpianist - (talk) 20:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


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Serbian ambassador recalled from U.S. after recognition of Kosovo

February 18, 2008 After the recognition of Kosovo as an independent state by the U.S. government, the Serbian ambassador to the U.S. was recalled today as a protest to this decision. Serbia says it will do the same to all countries that treat Serbia's breakaway as a state, prime minister Vojislav Kostunica says. "We ordered the urgent withdrawal of our ambassador to Washington, and his return to Belgrade, that is the government's first urgent measure."

Serbia's province of Kosovo declared independence last Sunday. The province has been under administration of the United Nations for almost nine years. "We all know that this unilateral, illegal, violent and immoral proclamation of a false state on the territory of Serbia was possible only under the auspices of brutal force, of the U.S. and NATO," Kostunica says, "The proof is the attempt to avoid the United Nations, and the disunity among European Union member states in spite of unbearable pressure by the U.S. The main goal of Serbia's state policy is the return of Kosovo to Serbia."

In Kosovo a minority of approximately 120,000 Serbs live with a majority of about two million Albanians.


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Documents regarding Kennedy assassination found in Dallas

February 18, 2008 At a press conference today, Dallas County district attorney Craig Watkins presented several documents and items relating to the 1963 assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. They were discovered over a year ago in a safe at the county courthouse.

Among these items is a two-page transcript of a conversation alleged to have taken place between Lee Harvey Oswald, who was arrested for assassinating Kennedy, and Jack Ruby, who shot and killed Oswald two days after he was arrested. If the conversation was found to be real, it would provide support for many conspiracy theories regarding the assassination. "It will open up the debate as to whether or not there was a conspiracy to assassinate the president," Watkins said.

The transcript suggests that Oswald and Ruby met at Ruby's nightclub on October 4, 1963, where they discussed a plan to "get rid of" then-Attorney General Robert Kennedy by shooting his brother, the President. "I can still do it, all I need is my rifle and a tall building," Oswald purportedly said. "But it will take time, maybe six months to find the right place..." Ruby says the money for the operation will be coming from the Mafia, but when Oswald asks Ruby if he is with the Mafia, Ruby replies with, "You're asking too many questions."

Some have dismissed the transcript as fake, saying it reads more like a screenplay than an actual conversation. "It's not real. Crooks don't talk like that," said Terri Moore, top assistant to Craig Watkins. Also found in the safe were letters written by former District Attorney Henry Wade regarding a movie he was working on, titled Countdown in Dallas. It is unclear how much work was done on the film, although a movie deal signed by Wade was among the documents found.

"The fact that it's sitting in Henry Wade's file, and he didn't do anything, indicates he thought it wasn't worth anything," said Gary Mack, curator of the Sixth Floor Museum. "He probably kept it because it was funny. It's hilarious. It's like a bad B movie." Mack says the conversation could not have taken place, as Oswald is believed to have been in Irving the night of October 4.

Although Craig Watkins believes the transcript is likely a fake, he said he could not immediately dismiss it as such. Even if the document is bogus, he says, he had always questioned the official explanation for Kennedy's death. "You know me: I'm always a conspiracy theorist," Watkins said. "It was too simple of an explanation. I don't see that."

The other items found in the safe, including Jack Ruby's brass knuckles, a leather gun holster, documents from Ruby's trial, and clothes belonging to Ruby and Oswald, are believed to be genuine. After all the items have been scanned, Watkins plans to donate them to a third party, so that they can be viewed by the public. "Our motto has always been that everything is open. We have nothing to hide. So we’re making public everything that we have found in the safe," Watkins said.


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Interesting
Funny, how without any true investigating and examination of the documents and such, that its IMMEDIATELY dismissed as a fake.... DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:05, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

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National Hockey League news: February 19, 2008

February 19, 2008

There were 4 games played in the National Hockey League on February 18, 2008, including the struggling Detroit Red Wings, who have dropped 6 straight, taking on their rivals the Colorado Avalanche.

Carolina Hurricanes @ New Jersey Devils
The Devils were on the board first, when Travis Zajac scored two minutes into the game. Mike Mottau would score a power play goal just over 5 minutes later to give New Jersey a 2 goal lead. Jay Pandolfo would increase their lead with an early second period goal. Jeff Hamilton would score an unassisted goal at 6:17 in the second period to put Carolina on the score board. A few minutes later, Johnny Oduya would put the Devils back up by three goals. Zach Parise would score in the closing seconds of the game, his 23rd of the season. The Devils won their 4th in 5 games, and ended Carolina's three game winning streak.

San Jose Sharks @ New York Islanders
Marcel Goc put the Sharks on the scoreboard at 2:19 in the second period. Halfway through the game, Radek Martinek made a shot on goal, hitting the mask of the Sharks goalie Evgeni Nabokov, breaking the mask and bloodying the face of the San Jose goalminder. He would return, with stitches, in the third period. Joe Thornton add a goal for San Jose at 2:14 in the third period. After that, it was all the Islanders. Andy Hilbert, Mike Comrie, and Freddy Meyer would each score a goal for New York to give them the lead before the game was over.

Detroit Red Wings @ Colorado Avalanche
There's no question that the Detroit Red Wings needed a victory, after losing six straight. They picked one up in Colorado. Chris Chellios started the scoring for the Red Wings at 12:03 in the first period. In the closing minute of the first period, Valtteri Filppula would increase the Detroit lead to two with a power-play goal. Henrik Zetterberg would light the lamp twice in the second period, first on the power play at 7:42, then again just over two minutes later, to double Detroit's lead.

Red Wing Nicklas Lidstrom left the game in the first period after taking a hit from Ian Laperriere. Lidstrom got up obviously shaken, and was assisted by a nearby referee for balance as he made his way off the ice. It's been reported that he has injured his right knee. There were also worries of a possible head injury; Lidstrom appeared dazed before getting up from the ice, but tests for a concussion have come back negative.

Phoenix Coyotes @ Los Angeles Kings
Phoenix scored first, when Ed Jovanovski got his 10th goal of the season, assisted by Radim Vrbata and Shane Doan, to put the Coyotes up early. Less than two minutes later, Vrbata would score a goal of his own to increase the Phoenix advantage to two goals early in the game. Daniel Carcillo would put the Coyotes up by three goals at 4:16 in the second period, and Daniel Winnik would increase the Phoenix lead at 12:40, which was assisted by Jovanovski. Phoenix picked up the victory, and Wayne Gretzky won his hundredth game as head coach of the Coyotes.

Other news
According to Peter Forsberg's agent, it is unlikely Forsberg will be returning to the NHL this season, this after weeks of speculation over which club would sign the free agent forward. Forsberg hasn't played in the NHL this season due to foot and ankle problems.

The Chicago Blackhawks re-signed defenseman Brent Seabrook to a three year, US$10.5 million contract. Seabrook has scored 7 goals, 12 assists, and is a +12 this season with the Hawks.

St. Louis Blues goaltender Manny Legace was named the NHL first star of the week. Legace had a 3-0-1 record for the week, and gave up only 5 goals on 130 shots. Islanders left wing Ruslan Fedotenko was named the second star. He had 4 goals and an assist, including two goals in the Islanders' 5-4 victory against the Toronto Maple Leafs on St. Valentine's Day, his first multi-goal game of the season. Montreal Canadiens goalie Carey Price was named the third star. Price, who has started the last three games for the Habs in place of the struggling Cristobal Huet, had 3 wins this week, including a shutout against the Philadelphia Flyers.

The captain of the Ontario Hockey League's Windsor Spitfires, center Mickey Renaud, died after collapsing in his home Monday afternoon. He was rushed to Windsor Regional Hospital in Windsor, Ontario, where he was pronounced dead after attempts at reviving the 19 year old failed. Renaud was drafted by the Calgary Flames in 2007, a fifth round pick. He scored 21 goals and 20 assists in the 56 games he played this season.


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Just in case you didn't already know that the US is a Third World nation.--76.171.38.38 02:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No kidding. But seriously, doesn't microlending put insane interest rates on those loans?  How is this different from Check into Cash?  Fephisto - (talk) 14:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


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2008 Taipei International Book Exhibition: Rain causes traffic jam around exhibition hall

February 22, 2008 2008 Taipei International Book Exhibition, recently closed on Monday (Feb. 18), showed not only significances from visitors' participation but also smooth traffic condition on roads near the Taipei World Trade Center (TWTC).

Since several MICEs (meetings, incentives, conferences, and exhibitions) were held in the TWTC and Taipei International Convention Center, a major issue for the hall owner TAITRA and several show organizers and participants was traffic condition near the venues especially in a show related to information technology. If the venue was filled with overflowed visitors, roads near the venues would be gotten in a stuck especially when it rained.

Even though the Xinyi Line of Taipei Metro is still under construction, and the 2008 Taipei Lantern Festival is still held in the Xinyi Shopping Area and Taipei City Hall Square, the traffic condition on Shi-fu Road, Song-chih Road, and Song-shou Road had some differences with a sudden rain in Sunday (Feb. 17) afternoon, in which period made a major impact in corrupting good traffic condition in the TIBE 2008 especially from Saturday (Feb. 16) to Sunday morning, in which period, a bad traffic condition ever taken place in past years.

Even though what the TIBE will be transformed, the overall image and quality from an exhibition including the TIBE will be determined by several factors especially operations and contents from the venue owner and show organizers.

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Pakistan Peoples Party winning elections for Pakistan's national assembly according to early results

February 19, 2008

Early poll results have shown that the anti-Musharraf parties, and, are emerging as victorious. The early results also show that, the party supporting Pervez Musharraf, has been defeated.

Furthermore, the results for Pakistan's indicate that the Pakistan Peoples Party currently have a small lead with 78 seats, with 's party just behind with 72 seats. The party which wins the elections for the National Assembly will choose the Prime Minister of Pakistan. The elections had a slow start at 8 a.m. (0300 GMT), as fears of violence kept many voters away. To enforce security, the Pakistani police is backed up by some 80,000 troops. The BBC reported that 80 million people are eligible to vote, but many are expected to stay at home, largely because of fears about security. Authorities reported at least five explosions that had taken place on election day, all but one of which occurred near a polling area.


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Fidel Castro resigns as Cuban president

February 19, 2008

Fidel Castro, the Cuban president who seized power in a 1959 revolution, has stated in a quote in Cuba's state-run newspaper Granma that when the National Assembly of Cuba meets on February 24 he "will not aspire to or accept... the positions of President of Council of State and Commander in Chief."

81-year-old Castro handed over control to his 76-year-old brother Raúl when he underwent surgery in July 2006. "It would betray my conscience to take up a responsibility that requires mobility and total devotion, that I am not in a physical condition to offer," Castro explained.

United States President George W. Bush said, "I believe that the change from Fidel Castro ought to begin a period of democratic transition." Although, John Negroponte, Deputy Secretary of State, said that this does not mean that the 1962 trade embargo will be lifted "any time soon."

European Union said that it hopes to improve relations with Cuba, which were almost at a standstill under Castro. Spokesperson John Clancy said the EU is willing to engage with Cuba in constructive dialogue to foster a peaceful transition to pluralistic democracy in Cuba.

China said it will maintain its current cooperation with Cuba and termed Fidel Castro an old friend. A spokesperson for the foreign ministry of Vietnam similarly praised Castro as a great friend and comrade.

BBC reports that Raúl Castro is seen by analysts as the likely choice as successor by the National Assembly, though some see 56-year-old Carlos Lage Dávila as potential candidate. Lage is currently Vice-President and Executive Secretary of the Council of Ministers.

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Granma.cu doesn't seem to have the letter that various sources refer to. 208.127.136.193 09:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The correct address for the newspaper's online site is http://www.granma.cubaweb.cu/. The letter itself can be found there in Spanish  and English . --Fmmarianicolon - (talk) 12:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Merge / Rename discussion
A quick search of the term "resign" reveals that almost all articles involving political resignations have a headline of "(Position Name) resigns" or "(Position Name) (Person's Name) resigns". We should merge the two Castro articles and rename it "Cuban President Fidel Castro resigns". --Fmmarianicolon - (talk) 12:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


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2008 Taipei International Book Exibition: United Daily News makes good promotion on e-books launch

February 23, 2008

In the Hall 1 of 2008 Taipei International Book Exhibition, the public often think this hall as a collective from general books. But this year, United Daily News Group (聯合報系) not only participated in this show with major brands on Economic Daily News (經濟日報), Linking Publishing (聯經出版社), and United Daily News Online (聯合線上), but also announced two interactive e-books with Old Master Q and Wan-Wan (彎彎) on Saturday (Feb. 16). With two major announcements, the General Book Hall conjoined with a fashion of comic.

The "Old Master Q" became a fashion in not only Taiwan but also Chinese-language world because readers in Chinese-language world wanted to collect whole series and recommended its series as "Must Buy Series", its humor style attracted readers to read. After several arrangements with music and flash movies, the "Old Master Q" series will be more interactive than a simple comic book.

Joseph Chak Wong (王澤) ever replied a question to local media about its characteristic and said:The characteristic from main and sub characters can be varied, even though it (the series) is filled with male characters more than females, but I will try to neutralize the story structure and characteristic with character designs.

In the afternoon, a Taiwanese famous blogger drawer "Wan-Wan" Chia-wei Hu participated the E-book launch of "Can't I go to work? A drawing diary by Wan-Wan.". The original author, Wan-Wan said to media and fans:Since my published works were famous and steadily, I will do a optimization from my past drawing and try to create a significant brand to market my works into the world. After her words, the possibility of brand establishment on Wan-Wan's work may be increased in the future for the global marketing in comic world.


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I just think about translating UDN's launch information because I think the UDN surely made a major impact at the TWTC Hall 1 in the TIBE 2008. Evidently, if I didn't participate the 2008 Taipei Game Show, and the two launches by UDN, I wouldn't think this article would be a typical example from a fashion effect. Brock contact... 09:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

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Wikinews interviews Australian Statistician Brian Pink

April 7, 2008

The Australian Bureau of Statistics is responsible for some of Australia's largest surveys, including the Census of Population and Housing, held every five years. At its head is the Australian Statistician. The current Statistician, Brian Pink, started in his position on March 5, 2007, following the retirement of predecessor Dennis Trewin. Wikinews recently caught up with Brian Pink to talk with him about his first year in the position, as well as his previous tenure as Government Statistician at Statistics New Zealand, and the state of mathematical education in Australia.

= Interview =

 * Good afternoon.

 * Brian Pink: Good afternoon.

 * And congratulations on spending a year as Australian Statistician.

 * BP: Yes, it's gone very quickly. (laughs)

Statistical services in Australia and New Zealand

 * So firstly, just for the benefit of Wikinews readers, can you give a bit of a background as to what the Bureau of Statistics does, and what your responsibilities are as the Statistician?

 * BP: OK, so the Bureau of Statistics is the national statistical agency here in Australia, and we provide a very wide range of statistical services to the Australian and state and territory governments, to business, to community more generally, and we cover a very broad range of economic, social, population and more recently environmental statistics, and a lot of analysis and research around various themes and topics within those general domains.

 * And my role is as Chief Executive of the organisation, so I have management roles that are associated with running a big complex organisation - a little under three thousand people and a budget of something around three million dollars a year - and I also provide the leadership from a statistical policy point of view for official statistics in Australia, and of course I operate under the authority of the Statistics Act, so I have statutory responsibilities as well under the Statistics Act to meet.

 * You used the word "leading", and I know that in 2005 the Bureau's mission statement changed from "providing ... a national statistical service" to "leading ... a national statistical service". So what does it actually mean to be a statistical leader over a statistical provider?

 * BP: I think what we saw there was a change that reflected the results of a review that was undertaken, known as the "Allen Review", that was undertaken as the role of the ABS was playing in statistics in Australia and official statistics, and talking to a very broad range of our stakeholders, both public and private. With the feedback that came from that review, one very key thing that came back was that there was a strong support, and in fact almost a demand from quite a lot of people who were involved with the statistical work of the nation, for the ABS to take a stronger leadership role, and that change in the wording that occurred back in 2005 actually reflected the decision the organisation took, and the Statistician at the time, that they would in fact look at taking a stronger leadership role in official statistical activities in Australia. We had a statutory responsibility to co-ordinate the statistical activities of government agencies, but this was taking a broader leadership role in a whole range of dimensions for all of the different players that contribute to statistics in Australia, particularly from Government.

 * Now, this means collaborating in some cases, it means undertaking statistical activities in others, it means providing advice - methodological, technological, around standards and conceptual frameworks. It's a very broad range of building capability, as well as undertaking ourselves statistical activity, building capability of all those other players, who are important parts and play an important part in what I call the "total portfolio" of official statistics in Australia.

 * And of course that change was made before you became Statistician, and in fact you weren't actually in the Bureau at the time - you rose through the ranks here and then went to New Zealand for a few years.

 * BP: That's right, I had six years as the Government Statistician in New Zealand, and interestingly there were parallel processes going on in Australia and New Zealand around the national statistical agency in New Zealand, called Statistics New Zealand, here the Australian Bureau of Statistics, taking stronger leadership in their statistical worlds, inside their own nations, and so when I came back from New Zealand it was not unfamiliar territory that I was coming back to, and some of the changes that had occurred in the period that I'd been away from the ABS were grappling with and dealing with and developing strategies to take that leadership forward, and we'd done similar things in New Zealand so, from my point of view, it was really positive to come back to help play my role in establishing and reinforcing our leadership of statistics in Australia.

 * So the two organisations were taking very similar directions. Have you noticed any major differences between the two?

 * BP: There's a number of significant differences. Of course, scale's one. Australia, in geography, in population, is a much bigger place, and that has its benefits and challenges. Probably the biggest difference in my role as Australian Statistician and my previous role as Government Statistician in New Zealand is that we're a federal system in Australia, so we have responsibilities not only to the Australian Government but to the states and territories as well. In New Zealand, of course, you have unilateral government, or unimodal government, so there was only one government and there was only one bureaucracy, and so the complexity in a lot of fields of statistics in Australia is made much more complex by the very nature of our government arrangements, and that's a big difference. I think also that the scale means that in some cases in New Zealand we had to try and meet the expectations of society for the quality in the breadth of the statistical services we provided with less resources and less depth of resources in a lot of areas, so that had its challenges as well, but the biggest difference, I think, really was the nature of the government relationships.

eCensus

 * I thought that we might look at some of the things that actually happened during the past year, firstly just things that have happened with the Bureau, and probably one of the biggest things that happened last year was the release of 2006 Census data. That was the first eCensus?

 * BP: It was, yes.

 * And I read that about 10% of households used it.

 * BP: Yes, just a little under 10%. It was the first time, both in Australia and New Zealand that the national Census has included the ability for people to respond electronically. We didn't push it too strongly, because there are a lot of challenges in moving to an eCensus and running it as complementary to the traditional pen-and-paper census, and I think both Australia and New Zealand - New Zealand was about 7% and Australia was between 9 and 10% - were very pleased with the level of response, and the level of feedback from the community here in Australia was that those that completed their census forms online thought that it was a very positive experience, and so I think we've positioned ourselves well for 2011 to try and encourage and be perhaps a little more on the front foot of encouraging more Australians to complete the census online rather than the traditional pen-and-paper, but it'll only be after the event that we'll know how successful we've been.

 * Did you see any significant differences between how people responded between the paper and the electronic census forms?

 * BP: I'm told that the quality of the responses in the electronic census were slightly higher than with pen-and-paper, and it's possible - it's very difficult to know, but it's possible that the sequencing, which is one of the things that people found attractive in the electronic instrument, so that, you know, you were taken straight from the last question to the next relevant question that you needed to answer. I think that may have had a little bit of an impact on the quality because people felt they've moved through the questionnaire more quickly.

 * Are there any other innovations in the works for the 2011 census, or is it still fairly nebulous?

 * BP: No, I think the 2011 census, as I said, will have a traditional pen-and-paper and obviously an electronic lodgement option as well, I think 2011 will be very much a repeat of what we've done in 2006, but we may see a bigger proportion of the responses moving from pen-and-paper to electronic.

ABS Year Books

 * The other thing that's happened in the past year is the release of the 2008 Year Book, and in fact the release of all the Year Books from 1908 to 2008 on the ABS web site.

 * BP: Yes, in digital form and searchable.

 * That must have been a huge effort.

 * BP: Yes. That obviously started before I came back from New Zealand, but a very large effort, but also a wonderful resource now available, free, on the ABS web site, to all of our community and society, both individuals and obviously it will be a very valuable research environment for historians, for economic historians, for statisticians as well, and I think so far it's been pretty low-key in terms of the way in which the value of that particular initiative is yet to be fully recognised. Probably we need to find ways of getting the availability of all those Year Books, now digitally on the web site, out there and understood by a wider range of potential users. Perhaps forums like the Wiki forum that we're talking about here is a good way to help do that.

 * Myself, I've gone in and looked at some of the early Year Books, and some of the Statistician's Reports at the beginning of each of the Year Books, and one of the things that I found really interesting was the extent to which issues that we might feel are pretty new and that we've discovered for the first time in recent years, you go back and read history and you find that quite often we're reinventing, perhaps in a different context, but still reinventing challenges that people dealt with back then as well.

 * Have you heard of any results from people looking through these Year Books and finding any interesting statistics?

 * BP: I haven't, I think that as I said the large majority of people don't realise yet that that enormous resource is there, and I think our challenge is to get the knowledge out there that they are there, and then I think we'll see the use pick up quite substantially.

The impact of changing governments

 * Obviously the ABS doesn't exist in a vacuum, and it has to work in the wider political world in Australia, and of course last year the November Federal election saw a change of government. Has this impacted much on how the Bureau works?

 * BP: I think one of the really important values of a national statistical organisation is that it has an enduring role in its society, and an important part of that role is to support the information needs of government, and governments change, and their focus can change, some of their priorities obviously change, and our role is to be able to support the information needs. But a great deal of what a national statistical office like the ABS does is to provide a window on different parts of economic and social dimensions of our society that all governments need, and value, and use, and so whilst it's quite possible that we will see some shifts in areas of interest and priority from the new government that came in late last year, in the main the large part of what the ABS is doing will continue to support the new government in the ways that is has previous governments.

 * So have any of the new politicians come in and say "We'd like our numbers to looks a little bit better for us than they did for the previous lot"?

 * BP: No, no, you don't get that sort of ... I think one of the wonderful things in the tradition of the ABS and its predecessor the Commonwealth Bureau of Census and Statistics has been that the independence of the institution is valued by all participants in parliament, current and past, and there's a wonderful quote from a previous - this is going back some time now - but from a previous Prime Minister who was quoted as saying "There are only two people that I believe in this world - one's God and the other one's the Commonwealth Statistician".

Indigenous statistics

 * Also, earlier this year Kevin Rudd apologised to the Stolen Generations, and this was on the basis of the "Bringing Them Home" report which incorporated some of the ABS' National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander surveys. To what extent does the ABS actually collect Indigenous statistics?

 * BP: We actually have an Indigenous Statistics Group within the ABS. That was formed quite a number of years ago, and its role is to understand and provide insights into the statistical needs, both of the Indigenous communities and of society more generally in trying the understand the circumstances of our Indigenous communities. The Census of course is a fundamentally important part of our understanding of our Indigenous people, but we have a number of major statistical initiatives that have been undertaken in areas of health and in, for instance, the work that we've been doing with our colleagues in the state administrations in particular to get better Indigenous identifiers in a number of the administrative systems, including over the years seeing substantial improvements in the identification of Indigeneity in Births and Deaths records, working to see better information identifiers in health and education records, for instance. It's not perfect, but the Indigenous unit within the ABS and other parts of the ABS have been working to improve the information base that we have in the society and that the Indigenous people themselves have, that provide us with better information about their circumstances.

 * I think that's one of the significant initiatives that's been taken, and as it happens next year in 2009 we'll be running the major National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Social Survey - it's been run before, we're running it again in 2009 and it'll provide quite a rich range of contemporary information about various aspects of Indigenous households and families, so there's a lot going on and with the initiatives that the previous government and the current government are taking and the commitments that are there to improve the circumstances of our Indigenous population, we have an important role to play to provide information that allows people to shape policies, and then information that allows people to understand how those policies, and the outcomes those policies are meant to be delivering, we help measure whether those outcomes are being achieved. So we've got a really important role to play in this space.

 * Were there any similar initiatives in New Zealand when you were there?

 * BP: Yeah, there were. I mean, the Indigenous people in Australia are 2.2 to 2.3 per cent of our population. In New Zealand, Maori people are 15% of the population, and so for an even longer period than here in Australia an important part of the statistical activities of the national statistical office there have been to provide and improve statistics for Maori people and about Maori people.

Mathematical education and the "brain drain"

 * Just on a last note, there are reports every few years talking about the decline in certain skills in graduates, in particular mathematics and science seem to be one of the more heavily affected. As an employer of obviously a lot of statistical graduates, has the Bureau had problems in finding candidates?

 * BP: We haven't had problems in finding candidates, in fact I think we continue to be very, I won't say "lucky", but we've been very successful in being able to attract the numbers of young mathematical science graduates that we need for our business. But if you asked me in a much more general context, both the previous Statistician and myself, and when I was in New Zealand I pursued this as well, there is definitely a decline in the number of kids basically going through high school and coming out of high school with higher mathematics, doing the tougher mathematics subjects as they go through. That feeds through into the universities - we've seen here in Australia over the last decade or more a significant shrinking of the maths and stats departments in a lot of the universities around Australia, and I think that we do, and I am concerned, at a time when as a society we rely more and more on information and the skills and the abilities to design, collect, analyse, interpret, model information for decision, public and private and personal, at a time when we're putting so much more emphasis on the importance of information in decision processes, we're not producing enough people with the skills to take full advantage of this rich range of resources that we produce these days. So yes, I am concerned.

 * And is there another concern with the loss of skilled professionals overseas - the "brain drain"?

 * BP: Well I think that's gone on for a long time in Australia, and then if you were in New Zealand they complain about the brain drain to Australia. We live in a global world now, and the skilled people are very portable, and so we have to - and that's another reason why we should be thinking about the sorts of skills that the nation needs as you look forward in the next couple of decades of the 21st century - we need to be encouraging the kids through the school system and then into the post-school education systems to take the sorts of courses that are going to be the sorts of skills that the nation needs to continue to develop and prosper, and I think that's a challenge that's there, and we have to accept that a part of the people that we train and develop will go offshore. That's reality, and we will attract people from overseas to come here. So I don't think we should be - that's not what worries me, to be honest. It's getting enough people coming through to ensure that we do have the skills in our society that allow us to continue to develop those skills, those quantitative skills of being able to work with information and analyse and interpret, model it as I said, and be able to make good decisions based on good evidence in whatever context - in biotechnology, in technology, in social sciences, in environmental sciences - they all need people with skills of being able to understand and work with data, and we're not producing enough really well-skilled people in that space.

 * Brian Pink, thank you very much for your time.

 * BP: My pleasure.


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Talk:Wikinews interviews Australian Statistician Brian Pink

Details
The interview is scheduled to take place at 2.00pm, March 12 14. I'll try to get my hands on a digital camera so I can add a photo to the article (and to his article on Wikipedia while I'm at it).

Topics
These are some of the things I'm planning to talk to him about (where no question is explicitly stated, I'm still at the "will ask him something about that" stage). Please feel free to add some more.

 * About the ABS and the Australian Statistician's responsibilities.
 * Differences between Stats NZ and ABS.
 * In 2005, the ABS mission statement changed from calling the Bureau a "statistical provider" to a "statistical leader". What does "statistical leadership" entail, and what initiatives are the Bureau implementing to achieve it?
 * Last year, Brian oversaw the release of data from the 2006 Census. I will ask about that, and about plans for 2011.
 * In November the Federal Election saw Labor take Government for the first time in 11 years. Has this affected the ABS, and how does he see it affecting it?
 * In February, the ABS launched the 2008 Year Book, and announced the availability of all previous Year Books for free on the Internet.
 * Also in February, Kevin Rudd apologised on behalf of the Australian government to the Stolen Generation. The Human Rights Commission report "Bringing Them Home" quoted from the 1994 ABS National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Survey. Will ask about the Bureau's involvement in A&TSI studies.
 * Do people trust ABS numbers?

Conflict of interest
I hereby admit that, as an employee of the Bureau of Statistics, I have a clear conflict of interest in this story. I will endeavour to keep the article as NPOV as possible, and welcome judicious editing by others to ensure this. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 11:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Interview done
Just came back from the interview. The recording is low-fi, but legible, and I'll try to clean it up tonight or tomorrow and start uploading/transcribing. I decided to drop the question on trust of ABS statistics and instead asked about the "brain drain". Got about 25 minutes of interview so it may take a little while to get fixed up, and I didn't get my hands on a camera so I may want to hold off on publishing until I can. It felt like a fairly good interview, though. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 03:42, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Just inserted the first part. More to come, but if anyone wants to take a look at what I've got up it would be great. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 13:05, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Second part up. This is about half the interview, and I've transcribed another 1/4 or so. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 12:03, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

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 * Last part up. You can listen to the interview at Image:Brian Pink interview.ogg (or click above), and tell me if I've screwed something up. I'm now going to fill in some related stories (if I can find them), relevant external links, and wikilinks. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 12:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


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