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'Fascinating' and 'provocative' research examines genetic elements of bipolar, schizophrenia

October 1, 2011

Last week,  carried twin studies into the genetics of bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. This special report examines the month's research into the illnesses in detail, with Wikinews obtaining comment from experts based in Australia, the United States, and the United Kingdom ahead of the U.S., which starts tomorrow.

Eleven genetic regions were identified; seven of these were for schizophrenia and five of those were hitherto undiscovered. The parallel studies, conducted separately, examined more than 50,000 people worldwide and identified two associated with both diseases.

Little is known about the two illnesses, each of which affects around 1% of people and is treated with strong medication. Bipolar sufferers experience extremes of mood – depression and mania, hence the previous name “manic depression” for the illness. Schizophrenia is associated with hearing voices, chaotic thoughts, and paranoia. There is no known cure.

The latest research examined both the healthy and the afflicted, using computers to scan genomes. Inheritance was thought to be a factor from prior knowledge of the diseases as a familial trait, but the original desire had been to isolate a single faulty gene. Instead it has become apparent that the genetic factors are many; in the case of schizophrenia, at most around 30% of the genetic components are thought to have been identified.

The ’s Pablo Gejman, a lead researcher on the schizophrenia study, explained to Wikinews in a telephone interview from Buenos Aires, Argentina that “One of the goals of genetic research is to find druggable targets” – to “find treatments at the root of the problem”.

Whilst noting that there is no guarantee the genetic code identified is druggable, Gejman named calcium-activated neurochemical channels in the brain as candidates for new drugs. The channels were linked to schizophrenia in the study.

Gejman explained that a genetic locus called mir137 “suggests an abnormality of gene regulation.” The diseases are so poorly understood that it is uncertain if they are in fact two components of a single spectrum, or even each comprised of multiple illnesses.

The new and “provocative data” gathered showed the significant loci identified were “not part of the pre-existent hypothesis.” Calling this “interesting”, Gejman added that the team found no evidence that  receptors are involved; current drug treatments target dopamine receptors. The findings are “not related to anything we thought we knew [about schizophrenia],” he told our correspondent.

Quizzed about the possibility variations in the genetic factors involved in expressing the diseases explained the variation seen in symptoms, Gejman was uncertain. “We will have the answer, probably, only when we sequence the whole [human] .” He notes that the relationship between and  is unclear, and that “We know very little of the genetic architecture of schizophrenia and” other disorders. At the time the results were published, participating scientist Professor Rodney Scott from the University of Newcastle in Australia said “The strength of this research is in the numbers. The findings are robust and give us a lot of statistical power to identify the genetic determinants of schizophrenia.” Scott told Wikinews that “If any single centre tried to undertake such a study, it would require millions of pounds. Since it was a collection of data from across the world the costs were spread. In this era of financial difficulty it will become increasingly difficult to secure funding for this type of project even though the pay-offs will be significant.” Gejman expressed similar sentiment. “The research budget is not growing, which makes [funding] difficult,” he said, though he felt the cost “is not prohibitive because of the benefits.” “I think that it was money well invested” and “very well spent for the future,” he said, adding that organisations in Europe and the US were aware of the importance of such research.

Gejman also agreed on reliability – the study is “Very reliable because of the sample size; that should provide robust results… [we] have worked with a much larger sample than before.” Scott told us it was “a highly reliable study” that has the potential to lead to new treatments “in the long run”.

Another point was the two genetic loci identified as common to both – how much support do they lend to the notion the diseases are linked? “Until more information is available it is really only suggestive,” says Scott. “Strong enough to say there may be potentially a common pathway that bifurcates to give rise to two diseases.”

“It is an excellent demonstration,” said Gejman “because you have the same chains that are common to both disorders, in fact not just the same chains but also the same s.” He stressed uncertainty in how strong the relationship was, however.

Scott said examining how the variation of genetic factors may translate into varied symptoms being expressed “certainly is a good target for future research”; “It is not known how many genetic factors contribute to either of these diseases but it is likely that not all are necessary to trigger disease.” “New questions will always arise from any major study,” he told our reporter. “Certainly, new questions about bipolar and schizophrenia are now able to be formulated on the basis of the results presented in the two reports.”

These weren’t the only studies to look at the two diseases together in September. The  carried research by a team from the University of Oxford and King's College London that examined mortality rates in England for schizophrenia and bipolar sufferers. They found both groups continued to suffer higher mortality rates than the general population – whilst these included suicides, three quarters of deaths were down to ailments such a s heart conditions. General death rates dropped from 1999 to 2006, but sufferers below 65 saw their death rate remain stable – and the over-65 saw theirs increase.

"By 2006, the excess risk in these groups had risk to twice the rate of the general population, whereas prior to that it had only been 1.6 times the risk, so it increased by almost 40%," said Dr Uy Hoang of Oxford. The study looked at every discharged inpatient with a diagnosis of either condition in England in the relevant time.

Hoang said at the time of the research’s release that doctors should devote attention to predicting and preventing physical illness associated with mental disorders. His study comes at a time when the UK has launched a "no health without mental health" strategy which does attempt to screen for physical illnesses coinciding with mental illnesses. The government aims to reduce the death rate of those with mental disorders.

Rodney Scott described this research result to Wikinews as “Possibly” connected to genetic association with other hereditary ailments, such as cardiovascular disease; he told us another possibility is that “The continued raised mortality rates may be associated with the diseases themselves.”

“We believe the NHS [] and Department of Health need to do more to support research and service development for people with bipolar disorder,” Wikinews was told by Suzanne Hudson, Chief Executive of London-based British charity MDF The Bipolar Organisation. “The provision of specialist services for bipolar is very limited in the UK and the demand for our services is unprecedented.”

“A genetic test for bipolar would be a useful tool but the science and ethics are very complex,” Hudson told us, referring to the Nature Genetics genetic study. “Just because someone has 'bipolar genes' does not mean they might go on to develop it. Family studies of bipolar show that this is a likely outcome of genetics research in this area. Even if it were possible to accurately predict bipolar in this way, questions about how you treat that person are difficult. For example do you start medication that is not necessary at that point in time?”

“Current treatment is not satisfactory” because it does not always work and has “side effects,” Gejman told us. Robert Whitaker, a US medical journalist and book author, told an audience in New Zealand at the end of August that evidence suggests antidepressant drugs may make children and teenagers worse – “You see many become worse and end up with a more severe diagnosis, like bipolar illness," and the suicide risk may increase.

Whitaker blames commercial interests. "The adult market appeared saturated, and so they began eying children and teenagers. Prior to this, few children and youth were seen as suffering from major depression, and so few were prescribed anti-depressants."

One possible alternative, raised by a connection between depressive illness and inflammation, is aspirin and similar compounds. “The link between inflammation and mood disorders has been known for sometime and the use of aspirin and other drugs in depression is now becoming more common in the literature,” Hudson says. “Any new treatments for bipolar, which is a very complex and illness, has to be a good thing.”

Professor Dr. Michael Berk, chairman of psychiatry at Australia’s, recently gave a talk to just this effect. Speaking at this year’s Congress of the European College of Neuropsychopharmacology, held this past month, he also highlighted s as a treatment. Recognising the link to physical ailments, he told an interviewer "The brain does not exist in isolation, and we need to understand that pathways similar to those that underpin risks for cardiovascular disorders, stroke, and osteoporosis might also underpin the risk for psychiatric disorders, and that other treatments might be helpful." Berk also touched upon speed of diagnosis and treatment; "Early interventions can potentially improve the outcome" of bipolar sufferers, he told his audience. MDF The Bipolar Organisation claim an average of ten years is possible before a person is diagnosed. “This clearly is an issue, if we believe that earlier diagnosis and treatment facilitate better outcomes,” Berk told Wikinews. Though he questions the effectiveness of currently-used drugs on advanced bipolar cases, he does not go so far as to say drugs are actively harmful. He told us “it appears that our best treatments work best earlier in the illness course; and that seems to apply to psychotherapy and pharmacotherapy.”

Berk has already performed research using statins which suggests they can form a treatment. He now seeks funding for research involving aspirin. On funding, he tells Wikinews “psychiatric disorders comprise between 16% and 22% of the burden of disability (depending on who measures it), attracts[sic] just over 6% of the clinical budget at least in Australia and 3% of the research budget. Research as a discretionary spending item is at great risk.”

Berk’s research, in the past, has been funded by companies including. Hudson told Wikinews this did not concern her charity; in fact, they welcomed it. “We believe it is important pharmaceutical companies continue to invest in the development of new medications for bipolar. This is how it works in all other health specialities and mental health should be no different.”

“There is a need for greater education for mental health professionals and GPs [general practitioners] about bipolar [in the UK],” she told us. “As the national bipolar charity we receive many, many calls and requests from GPs and other health professionals for our leaflets and information sheets which is fantastic. We very much welcome opportunities to work together for the benefit of individuals affected by bipolar.”

Wikinews contacted the UK’s (NICE) to discuss issues raised in this article, including future treatments, genetic screening, and mortality rates. NICE did not respond.

Might statins and/or aspirin improve treatment – might they be cheaper, perhaps, or safer? “This is an area of research promise,” says Berk, “however it is too early to make any clinical treatment claims; [all] we can say is that this needs to be studied in properly designed trials capable of giving a more definitive answer.” And what of possible explanations for the increased mortality rate observed in England? Should researchers look at whether bipolar influences more than just the brain, or if it is linked to other genetic conditions?

“For sure,” he told us. “There is new evidence that similar pathways contribute to the risk for both medical and psychiatric illness, both in terms of lifestyle factors, and biomarkers of risk.”


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Talk:'Fascinating' and 'provocative' research examines genetic elements of bipolar, schizophrenia

OR notes
All email repostings etc have been edited for format but not for content, except to redact personal data. All this material has already gone through scoop.

Pablo Gejman
Pablo was contacted by email, and we arranged a telephone interview.

Emails
Thanks very much. Best. Pablo

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: [Removed - Pablo Gejman] Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:01:25 +0000 To: [Removed - me (Iain Macdonald)] ReplyTo: [Removed - Pablo Gejman] Subject: Re: [PRESS] Bipolar/schizophrenia research

From the taxi: mir137 locus suggests an abnormality of gene regulation...

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: [Removed - me (Iain Macdonald)] Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:57:12 -0700 To: [Removed - Pablo Gejman] Subject: RE: [PRESS] Bipolar/schizophrenia research

Hi. I've just been typing up my notes from the interview; I want to be absoultuely sure I've got this right as I don't want to misquote you - when you said the data suggested chain regulation to be at the heart of the illness, am I correct in thinking you described this as "provocative data"? I was certain you did as I took notes, but now I'm not so sure and want to check.

Thanks again for this, you were very helpful!

Original Message Subject: Re: [PRESS] Bipolar/schizophrenia research From: [Removed - Pablo Gejman] Date: Wed, September 21, 2011 6:02 pm To: [Removed - me (Iain Macdonald)]

Terrific! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: [Removed - me (Iain Macdonald)] Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:01:36 -0700 To: [Removed - Pablo Gejman] Subject: RE: [PRESS] Bipolar/schizophrenia research

So, that's 9:00 my time. Works fine for me. Talk to you then!

Iain

Original Message Subject: Re: [PRESS] Bipolar/schizophrenia research From: [Removed - Pablo Gejman] Date: Wed, September 21, 2011 5:57 pm To: [Removed - me (Iain Macdonald)]

Hi Iain. Thank you! Perhaps 5 pm (Wed;today) would be perfect. 6 pm is also possible but I will probably be in a taxi driving to the airport. Would this work for you?

Best,

Pablo Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: [Removed - me (Iain Macdonald)] Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:47:48 -0700 To: [Removed - Pablo Gejman] Subject: RE: [PRESS] Bipolar/schizophrenia research

I'm jealous! My email client dated this article about a half-hour into today, but I assume you mean to call today (Wednesday).

If I've got my timezones correct, Argentina is UTC-3 and UK is currently UTC+1. So, if I rang at 9:00 UTC that would be 6:00 your time (10:00 my time). Does that suit you?

Iain

Original Message Subject: Re: [PRESS] Bipolar/schizophrenia research From: [Removed - Pablo Gejman] Date: Wed, September 21, 2011 12:31 am To: [Removed - me (Iain Macdonald)]

Hello. I am traveling and currently in Buenos Aires. Please, call me tomorrow before 7 pm Argentina time at [telephone number redacted] (this is a US phone). Look forward to talking with you,=

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:32 PM, [Removed - me (Iain Macdonald)] wrote: Gejman,

I'm a UK-based journalist researching a feature on the new twin papers on genetic factors to bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. I've read of your involvement here and I'd like to ask you a few questions for inclusion in the piece:
 * How reliable would you consider the results of the study?
 * Could this lead to potential new treatments for either of the disorders?
 * How strongly does the presence of two common "genetic loci" support the theory that the disorders are linked?
 * Is the cost of such large studies prohibitive? How difficult or easy was it to secure funding?
 * These are highly variable and complex disorders. Do you think this could be explained by different genetic factors being at play in different cases? Might this be a good target for future research?
 * A UK-based study earlier this month concluded sufferers of these linked disorders continue to have a raised mortality rate - and, not merely from self-harm. Might these illnesses be associated with increased risk of other hereditary conditions, e.g. cardiovascular disease?
 * Has this research raised any new questions about bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, or both?

Thanks in advance for your time, and congratulations on the research, which looks to be a big step forwards.

Iain Macdonald Wikinews administrator and accredited reporter

Interview transcript
As you might expect, quote marks denote exact utterances and the rest is paraphrase. I typed notes as I spoke with him, then typed them up properly after getting off the phone.

There is a silly typo in these, in which I've typed the wrong word; "druggable treatments" should of course be "druggable targets". I'd just change it but this has already gone through scoop.

How reliable would you consider the results of the study?

“Very reliable because of the sample size; that should provide robust results… [we] have worked with much a larger sample than before.”

Could this lead to potential new treatments for either of the disorders?

“We hope that this result will do it but we cannot be sure of that… One of the goals of genetic research is to find druggable treatments.”

“Current treatment is not satisfactory” because it does not always work and has “side effects” Aim is to “find treatments at the root of the problem”.

No evidence it is druggable

Calcium channel genetic code looks like a potentially druggable target.

How strongly does the presence of two common "genetic loci" support the theory that the disorders are linked?

“It is an excellent demonstration, because you have the same chains that are common to both disorders, in fact not just the same chains but also the same alleles”

Extent of relationship unknown [he was keen to stress this point – they may be linked, but how linked?]

'''Is the cost of such large studies prohibitive? How difficult or easy was it to secure funding?'''

“The research budget is not growing, which makes it difficult…”

Bodies in US and Europe aware of the importance of such research.

“It is not prohibitive because of the benefits.” Note; this sentence was begun with some variation upon ‘I think’.

“I think that it was money well invested” and “very well spent for the future”

'''These are highly variable and complex disorders. Do you think this could be explained by different genetic factors being at play in different cases? Might this be a good target for future research?'''

'''A UK-based study earlier this month concluded sufferers of these linked disorders continue to have a raised mortality rate - and, not merely from self-harm. Might these illnesses be associated with increased risk of other hereditary conditions, e.g. cardiovascular disease?'''

[though posed separately, he elected to answer these jointly]

We don’t have an answer yet. One distinction on genetic factors: “We will have the answer, probably, only when we sequence the whole genome.”

People will have many different variations.

Relationship between genotype and phenotype unclear.

“We know very little of the genetic architecture of schizophrenia and” other disorders.

Has this research raised any new questions about bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, or both?

“Yes for schizophrenia”; what is “interesting”: the significant loci identified were “not part of the pre-existant hypothesis.” [NOTE: Although he was careful to avoid saying the same for bipolar, he did recommend a researcher to contact on that subject – Pamela Sklar of Mount Sinai School of Medicine. I’ve already emailed her…]

'''Did not find dopamine receptors involved. Current drug treatments target dopamine receptors.'''

“Provocative data”: suggesting schizophrenia is to do with “chain regulation”.

“Fascinating result... [This has been] A mystery for a very long time and we are only starting to unravel the [genetic] puzzle.”

“Not related to anything we thought we knew [about the disease].”

Not directly related to any posed question

Something I thought was very cool: “these are very important questions… are you a geneticist?” With thanks to George Watson (dendodge) who helped me out on question-writing.

Rodney Scott
Rodney Scott was interviewed by email.

Emails
Iain,

Please see my answers next to your questions.

Professor Rodney J. Scott, PhD, PD, FRCPath, FHGSA, FFSc(RCPA) Head of the Discipline of Medical Genetics School of Biomedical Sciences Faculty of Health University of Newcastle

Phone (02) 4921 4974 Fax (02) 4921 4253 email: rodney.scott [AT] newcastle [DOT] edu [DOT] au [very publically available, broken to fool spambots]

>>> [Redacted - me (Iain Macdonald)] 21/09/2011 5:38 am >>>

Rodney,

I'm a UK-based journalist researching a feature on the new twin papers on genetic factors to bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. I've read of your involvement here and I'd like to ask you a few questions for inclusion in the piece:

How reliable would you consider the results of the study? This is a highly reliable study.

Could this lead to potential new treatments for either of the disorders? In the long term, potentially.

How strongly does the presence of two common"genetic loci" support the theory that the disorders are linked? Until more information is available it is really only suggestive. Strong enough to say there may be potentially a common pathway that bifurcates to give rise to two diseases.

Is the cost of such large studies prohibitive? How difficult or easy was it to secure funding? If any single centre tried to undertake such a study, it would require millions of pounds. Since it was a collection of data from across the world the costs were spread. In this era of financial difficulty it will become increasingly difficult to secure funding for this type of project even though the pay-offs will be significant.

These are highly variable and complex disorders. Do you think this could be explained by different genetic factors being at play in different cases? Might this be a good target for future research? It is not known how many genetic factors contribute to either of these diseases but it is likely that not all are necessary to trigger disease. It certainly is a good target for future research.

A UK-based study earlier this month concluded sufferers of these linked disorders continue to have a raised mortality rate - and, not merely from self-harm. Might these illnesses be associated with increased risk of other hereditary conditions, e.g. cardiovascular disease? Possibly. The continued raised mortality rates may be associated with the diseases themselves.

Has this research raised any new questions about bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, or both? New questions will always arise from any major study. Certainly, new questions about bipolar and schizophrenia are now able to be formulated on the basis of the results presented in the two reports.

Thanks in advance for your time, and congratulations on the research, which looks to be a big step forwards.

Iain Macdonald Wikinews administrator and accredited reporter

Michael Berk
Michael Berk was interviewed by email.

Emails
Hi Please see my comments below:

-Original Message- From: [Redacted - me (Iain Macdonald)] Sent: Thursday, 22 September 2011 3:59 AM To: michael [DOT] berk [AT] deakin[DOT edu [DOT] au Subject: [PRESS] Bipolar research

Michael,

I'm a freelance UK journalist researching a feature that will look at bipolar disorder research, and my eye was caught by your recent work. I've a few questions I'd appreciate answers to.

Your work has called into question the effectiveness of currently-used drugs upon more advanced cases of bipolar. Would you say prescribing such potent drugs can, in some cases, do more harm than good?
 * [MICHAEL BERK] No, what I am saying is that it appears that our best treatments work best earlier in the illness course; and that seems to apply to psychotherapy and pharmacotherapy.

MDF The Bipolar Organisation, a British charity, claims it can take individuals here an average of ten years to get a diagnosis. What effect might such a delay have?

I was interested to note from your research that simple aspirin and/or statins may serve as an alternative treatment. How beneficial might this be - cheaper? Safer?
 * T[MICHAEL BERK] This clearly is an issue, if we believe that earlier diagnosis and treatment facilitate better outcomes.
 * [MICHAEL BERK] This is an area of research promise, however it is too early to make any clinical treatment claims; al we can say is that this needs to be studied in properly designed trials capable of giving a more definitive answer..

A UK-based study concluded this month that bipolar individuals still have a greatly increased mortality rate - and not simply from self-harm/suicide. Might this be because bipolar disorder actually affects more than just the brain; or, could it be evidence of a link to other illnesses with genetic factors? Might this be a good target for future research?
 * [MICHAEL BERK] For sure. There is new evidence that similar pathways contribute to the risk for both medical and psychiatric illness, both in terms of lifestyle factors, and biomarkers of risk.

What has your experience been in terms of getting funding for bipolar research? Is this easy to do, or difficult, and has the recession had an impact?
 * [MICHAEL BERK] The best answer I can think of is that psychiatric disorders comprise between 16% and 22% of the burden of disability (depending on who measures it), attracts just over 6% of the clinical budget at least in Australia and 3% of the research budget. Research as a discretionary spending item is at great risk.

I thank you in advance for your time. Good luck with your ongoing research.

Iain Macdonald Wikinews administrator and accredited reporter

Suzanne Hudson
Suzanne was interviewd via email (her answers came in yesterday, Thursday).

Emails
Dear Iain

Hopefully you find the following of assistance. If within your article you could provide a link to MDF Bipolar (telephone number and website) that would be great.

A genetic test for bipolar would be a useful tool but the science and ethics are very complex. Just because someone has 'bipolar genes' does not mean they might go on to develop it. Family studies of bipolar show that this is a likely outcome of genetics research in this area. Even if it were possible to accurately predict bipolar in this way, questions about how you treat that person are difficult. For example do you start medication that is not necessary at that point in time?

We believe the NHS and Department of Health need to do more to support research and service development for people with bipolar disorder. The provision of specialist services for bipolar is very limited in the UK and the demand for our services is unprecedented.

There is a need for greater education for mental health professionals and GPs about bipolar. As the national bipolar charity we receive many, many calls and requests from GPs and other health professionals for our leaflets and information sheets which is fantastic. We very much welcome opportunities to work together for the benefit of individuals affected by bipolar.

The link between inflammation and mood disorders has been known for sometime and the use of aspirin and other drugs in depression is now becoming more common in the literature. Any new treatments for bipolar, which is a very complex and co-morbid illness, has to be a good thing.

We believe it is important pharmaceutical companies continue to invest in the development of new medications for bipolar. This is how it works in all other health specialities and mental health should be no different.

With regards

Suzanne Suzanne Hudson Chief Executive MDF The Bipolar Organisation T 0207 931 6480

11 Belgrave Road London SW1V 1RB T 0207 931 6480 Charity No: 293340 www.mdf.org.uk

MDF The Bipolar Organisation is the national charity dedicated to supporting individuals with the much misunderstood and devastating condition of bipolar, their families and carers. If you would like to find out more or make a donation, please ring 0207 931 6480 or visit the website www.mdf.org.uk

-Original Message- From: [Redacted - me (Iain Macdonald)] Sent: 21 September 2011 19:18 To: MDF Subject: Press request

Hi,

I'm a freelance journalist researching a feature on bipolar disorder. I have a few points that I'd love MDF's stance on.

Recent research has built upon our knowledge of the genetic nature of bipolar. Would you support efforts to develop a genetic screening method for bipolar? If so, would you support that being made available to people who are related to diagnosed sufferers?

A study issued this month showed the sad news bipolar sufferers continue to have an increased mortality rate, and not merely from suicide. Should the government be doing more to better understand this condition, and to improve treatment?

Do you often get complaints that NHS professionals - especially GPs who may know little about mental health problems - are not understanding or supportive enough?

One possibility being researched is that bipolar is linked to inflammation, making statins and aspirin a possibility for treatment. Would this be an improvement on the current mix of drugs?

Do you feel it's appropriate for drugs companies to fund bipolar research?

Thank you in advance for your time; and, more importantly, thank you for the wonderful work you do to help bipolar sufferers.

Iain Macdonald Wikinews administrator and accredited reporter

NICE
A NICE press contact was emailed. He failed to respond. This was sent to him:

Email
Paul,

I'm a freelance journalist researching a feature on these conditions. In the UK, sufferers continue to have an advanced mortality rate. Meanwhile, research continues to have identify new genetic factors - the long-presumed link between the two conditions was only very recently proved.

One organisation estimates it can take up to ten years to get a diagnosis of bipolar.

Bearing this in mind, what is NICE's position on the NHS starting to use - were research advances to make it possible - genetic screening to identify sufferers, or to screen the children of sufferers?

Is NICE currently looking at treatments, or other methods, to try and lower the mortality rate?

Thank you for your time.

Iain Macdonald Wikinews administrator and accredited reporter

Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:06, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

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Suggest 'Fascinating' and 'provocative' research examines genetic elements of bipolar disorder, schizophrenia "Bipolar" is not the name of manic-depressive illness--it's "bipolar disorder", as used in the article and in (e.g.) Wikipedia. Koavf (talk) 06:33, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

 * See headlinese. This headline is correct news style, and even if it weren't we wouldn't change it in the archives, months after publication, for a mere matter of style (though we might for, say, a spelling error).  --Pi zero (talk) 11:59, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

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editprotected May I request the admins to add the following category to this news piece: Category:King's College London. There are dozens of news articles on Wikinews related to King's College but, alas, there was no category for it earlier. I reckon I'll have to do this for each news piece...--Merlaysamuel (talk) 15:30, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
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Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/archives/2011/August

Expandable comments in the margins - for beginners (no wiki code or markup knowledge required)
I have expanded the invitations to discussion around Wikimedia's different projects. This was to make sure that anyone interested can and does join in. The idea is currently called "Sticky notes". The lead of that page provides a summary. Thanks all. - Tesseract2 (talk) 02:49, 22 August 2011 (UTC)


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Briefs?
Overall, what is the current "temperature" for Briefs? I don't think many people are creating/referring to them? Is it something I should consider reviving? Or, am I just dazed and confused?Bddpaux (talk) 01:00, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Due to current review criteria, the only briefs likely to get published are short summaries of breaking news for which no further information is available. We do have shorts, and you're welcome to contribute those, but we usually need at least three different stories to make those work, and full articles are obviously preferred. DEN  DODGE  George Watson  20:55, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Post-mortem on OpenGlobe fork?
I'd love to see a post-mortem on the recent fork of OpenGlobe -- what the concerns were, how they were presented, what the alternatives are within WN policy and practice to the changes suggested there. Is there any discussion of it here on Wikinews?

Regards, sj (talk) 22:29, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Lots of (informal) discussion took place on irc today. Most of the disputes and what not that triggered the fork happened a fair bit ago time wise. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:12, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

On-hand experts
Something that occurred to me doing some behind-the-scenes work on DEN's space junk OR - how trivial it should be to get academics on-board, and in reality how much work is required to find one at short notice. I suggest we build up a core of readily available profs to comment on core areas - law, politics, economics, sciences - by approaching them in advance and getting 2-3 in each major subject area ready to offer opinions at the drop of a hat. This would allow ready OR to be easily conducted on a range of subjects by pinging requests for comment off to those who expressed willingness. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:53, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * At my school, which I take to be typical, we (at the graduate level, anyway) got regular 'in the news' bulletins about members of our academic community who'd gotten press coverage. So it shouldn't be too hard to find folks interested.  --Pi zero (talk) 01:12, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm now a student at a world-leading research lab; obviously, not going to be asking them (massive COI) but I'd be amazed if they don't do semi-regular press asks.
 * On to practicalities; been suggested to me a basic list of contact details, academic backgrounds, special interests, etc be placed on the embargoed wiki (keep their records private). I'm wondering how feasible it would be to build a webform on there, though, for the truly lazy accreedited reporter to quickly pick someone and mail them via the interface. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:49, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It'll have to wait until after Thursday. ;-) Don't-cha just love hosting that falls due 2 days before payday?
 * I do think a Wikinewsie Rolodex would be a worthwhile effort. Many academics will be delighted to see their name in the press when you contact them on their area of expertise. I'd say at least two to three per main subject area. Ideally, geographically dispersed, with people doing regular OR trying to cultivate local contacts. It'll be far easier if you can fire off a link to a prof on a particular paper/article, ask for brief remarks and if they're okay to actually call later on to ask more pointed questions. We should hardly need a form to email them, simply proper mailto links on pages about each expert. We can then document success rates, and any notes (like How to get comment from RMS without a lecture on GNU/Linux). --Brian McNeil / talk 20:00, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, another thing is a form could allow notes as to how long ago each was last contacted, and maybe even be set up to store a permanent record of the content. Good for varying your input from article to article. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Peer review reform
Please make yourself familiar with the current system first.

As it seems to be a problem with using foreign language documents as sources, I propose to partition the reviewer's group:
 * 1) full reviewer: they would hold the rights currently attributed to reviewers;
 * 2) assistant reviewer or fact checker: they would have the right to assist in the peer review process by checking the cited foreign language sources (verification), however they would not be able to publish an article. Their command of English needn't to be as good as of the current reviewers, as checking the style (grammar) would not be their primary role. Each such reviewer would hold his right for a specific language.

Additional:
 * We might notify them by software generated (automated) e-mails, when their assistance is needed, i.e. when a document of their language appears as a source in a review stage article. It would fasten the review process.
 * We might recruit to fill these positions in the major languages using embassies. It might flock a few people around here.
 * We should verify their ability to understand the language in question and that they have a good enough grasp of English, so they could determine differences between the source text and our English article. I am not sure about how this confirmation method should work, but we might use SUL lists, ask the opinion of the community of their home wikis etc.
 * To ensure the quality (trustworthiness) of these articles (with foreign sources) we should have the verification of two different fact checkers for an article to be published. Checkusers might use their tools to filter out sock puppets, i.e. to ensure that at least 3 different people crosschecked the content. (We should give a fair warning for the to-be-fact checkers that they might be checked on on a regular basis.)

Pros:
 * lessening frustration stemming from publication delays ;
 * it would make easier to write articles about events not yet covered by the English-language press (unique content -> more readers);
 * (via recruiting) potential of making Wikinews more known among Wikimedia contributors.

Cons:
 * if we are not cautious, we might loose our trustworthiness;
 * if we are cautious, we would generate a lot more work for checkusers.

Please comment on this proposal and make suggestions. - Xbspiro (talk) 12:20, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

 * To be clear, fluency in the sources is not just a matter of "fact-checking".
 * Fact-checking is not nearly as simple as it might sound. Subtleties of wording in both source language and article language (English) can make the difference between accurate reporting and grossly inaccurate, even libelous, reporting.
 * I also rely on my ability to pick up subtleties of source language during review for (at least)
 * credibility of sources
 * independence of sources (this can sometimes be very subtle, to sniff out when the sources really aren't independent)
 * newsworthiness
 * "copyvio" — on which the concerns would be somewhat different when dealing with non-English sources (and ianal), but one consideration that springs to mind is the difference between direct and indirect quotes.
 * That first point, about fact-checking being not so simple, also suggests that the job would require the person checking the facts to have a good command of the language of our article (English) as well as the source; and indeed, how would a "full" reviewer know what copyedits are safe to make, if they can't read the sources for themselves? (Which is why I'd think rapid very-high-quality English translations of sources are more what's wanted; see below.)

 * The less-than-full-reviewer job you're describing would seem to be, at best, barely less than full reviewer; certainly it's nothing like a "mere fact-checker".

 * I did (privately) raise this issue a while back. The logistical problem is that the level of trust involved is really scarcely less than that of a full reviewer, and it already takes most of our community infrastructure to judge accumulated community trust for granting reviewer privileges; for this, we'd lack direct evidence to judge who to trust.  The proposal I floated was to have people agreeing to stand by to, on very short notice, provide high-quality English translations of sources — but even for that, it's difficult to know who would really be willing and able to take on such a demanding task on short notice, and, again, who to trust to do a really high-quality accurate job of it.

 * Keep in mind, I'd like to see a way to improve this aspect of our operation; I'm simply explaining why, so far, I haven't seen a solution. --Pi zero (talk) 14:00, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


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Thread:Comments:Unauthorised autobiography of Julian Assange sells less than 700 copies/Newsworthy?

Wikinews: the place for news about Wikimedia and Wikileaks!


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You say that like WikiLeaks actually has something to do with the WMF. In truth, it's barely even a wiki - if at all.


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Thread:Comments:Unauthorised autobiography of Julian Assange sells less than 700 copies/Did Assange really expect it was gonna be possible to keep his biography from "leaking"?

With all his experience with Wikileaks, did he really thought it would be possible to keep his biography from coming out?


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If i was him, once realizing i couldn't prevent the publishers from going ahead with the publishing of the material, i would retribute by leaking the contents to try to hurt the sales...


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Thread:Comments:Unauthorised autobiography of Julian Assange sells less than 700 copies/Newsworthy?/reply (2)

No, otherwise I would have grouped them together.


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So they said they would kill his family if he did not kill a American or two.


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Thread:Comments:Unauthorised autobiography of Julian Assange sells less than 700 copies/Newsworthy?/reply (3)

I maintain that your comment strongly implies it.


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lol...


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Taliban - 1  USA - 0 156.8.251.250 (talk) 13:27, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


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Practice makes perfect... Experience improves results.


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Thread:Comments:Afghan employee kills U.S. citizen at Kabul CIA base/Tally/reply

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User:Hallows AG

Hi there! I'm Hallows AG. I have an account in Wikipedia under the same name. I have made more or less 11000 edits there. On Wikinews, I have created 16 articles, with 6 of them getting published. Well, thanks for stopping by and I am looking forward with working with you in the near future.

Articles that I have created

 * Former Libyan leader Gaddafi killed - in collaboration with Onewhohelps
 * UN wants Gaddafi's death probed
 * Earthquake hits Turkey, hundreds reported dead
 * Greek lawmakers pass new austerity law despite violent protests
 * Afghan employee kills U.S. citizen at Kabul CIA base
 * US hikers freed after two years of custody in Iran

Print Editions that I have compiled

 * October 20 2011 Edition
 * Ocotber 17 2011 Edition
 * October 13 2011 Edition
 * October 11 2011 Edition
 * October 8 2011 Edition
 * October 6 2011 Edition
 * October 3 2011 Edition

title: User:Hallows AG


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Please be explicit about which Creative Commons license (in this case, Creative Commons Attribution 2.5). 123.24.84.163 (talk) 08:12, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
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Thread:Comments:Afghan employee kills U.S. citizen at Kabul CIA base/Tally/reply (2)

now THAT is a better tally...156.8.251.250 (talk) 11:30, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


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Thread:Comments:Saudi Arabian women gain right to vote, run in elections/Women's Rights/reply

the word is SHEIK...156.8.251.250 (talk) 11:32, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


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Thread:Comments:Florida schools begin to enforce new statewide ban on saggy pants and other revealing attire/A law?

My understanding of breaking a law includes some sort of fine at the minimum. If the fine is not paid then you get to go to jail.

Why would the student dress code not cover this? Do legislatures have nothing better to do then look at how teenagers are dressing?

I use to be a rebellious kid. If you told me I could get some vacation time by sagging my pants I might take you up on it.


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Thread:Comments:Wikinews interviews Andy Martin, U.S. Republican Party presidential candidate/Comments from feedback form - "It's good to have a place to s..."

It's good to have a place to see an article on this candidate


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Thread:Comments:Copyright on musical recordings extended by twenty years in EU/Intellectual property/reply (3)

Once again lobbyism, the big money (corporations) and government win against common sense, the intellectual community and the soul of present day (copyleft, digital distribution, etc). And that at one of the most developed countries in the world. What a shame...

Know your enemies.


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Comments:Two New Zealand children die in fire

rest in peace charna and whetu !!! imiss yous much even though i only new you for maybe a year !!! never forget you lil scribe and miss pussy cat doll. you will always be cherished and necer forgotten xox colline from maywood cres lols


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Thread:Comments:Afghan employee kills U.S. citizen at Kabul CIA base/Comments from feedback form - "Sources were other new's agenc..."

Sources were other new's agencies which I found kinda apathetic.


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