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Colombia ends Chávez-FARC mediations

November 23, 2007 On Thursday, Colombia ended Hugo Chávez, the of Venezuela, efforts in negotiating hostage releases with  (FARC). , the, said that Chávez broke a November 10 agreement not to speak directly to Colombian military commanders.

FARC, reportedly, hold hundreds of hostages in the of Colombia. Their aim in the mediation was to trade some 50 hostages for 500 of their own, held in prisons of Colombia. FARC is offering high-profile hostages such as former Senator and three Americans as leverage.

"The president of the republic considers as terminated the facilitation of the Senator Piedad Cordoba and the mediation of President Hugo Chávez and thanks them for their assistance," Uribe said in a statement. "Today Senator Piedad Cordoba telephoned the army commander, General Mario Montoya, asking for a meeting and then passed the telephone to President Chávez, who asked questions about the hostages held by the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia," the statement continued.

Later, the Colombian government said it will only let Chávez meet with FARC again, if FARC releases some hostages and pledges to release the rest.

Íngrid Betancourt was kidnapped on February 23, 2002, while she was campaigning for the presidency of Colombia. She also holds French citizenship. When Chávez met Nicolas Sarkozy, the on November 20, he was unable to provide proof that Betancourt was alive, but said that he had been told she was alive as recently as November 18.

On Thursday, Sarkozy urged Uribe to reconsider. "We continue to think that President Chávez is the best chance for freeing Íngrid Betancourt and all the other hostages," said Sarkozy spokesperson.

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Hi, why have you removed inline links to external sites? 151.57.113.249 15:12, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Wikinews cannot control what is on external websites. Therefore there should not be links to external sites in the middle of the text of an article with no further explaination. If an external link is vital to the story (these were not in my opinion) an Exteral links section can be created below the Sources section where it should be explained what is on the page and who is providing the content, so the reader knows what to expect before they click on the link. I hope that is a satisfactory explaination. --SVTCobra 15:39, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


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I'll spare you the welcome message again, but do go to WN:SG for helpful tips.

About the external links:
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 * Absolutely, thanks. I added those links because I wanted to explain why, who and when Berlusconi was accued of controlling the media. But if you think it doesn't matter... all right. Spad85 15:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

About publishing on first edit:
 * It is always best to put instead of  on the first edit of an article. Invariably, even with lots of experience, there are lots of mistakes in the first edit. Look at your article Political scandal in Italy: reported interference on major media. You had to make two addition edits in two minutes to fix mistakes. I hope we can agree that the first version was not up to a publishable standard? Cheers, --SVTCobra 15:46, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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Comments:U.S. warships temporarily denied entry to Hong Kong

Why should China allow them to dock anyway? Codes can require assistance or repairs, but lacking either justification I see no reason to expect them to allow foreign military ships to dock in their territory. 66.157.100.253 23:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Well it was a previously planned event with their consent and one that seems to have occured in the past as well (though not too sure on how many times it has happened since China got HK back from the British). --SVTCobra 23:59, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I was trying to find this out but was mainly busy with Thanksgiving stuff today. So far it appears to have docked there at least once since the switchover to China. JoshuaZ 00:48, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Yeah, carrier battle groups don't just show up unannounced, saying "Hi, can we dock here?" unless they have some serious ill intent. China was definitely doing a little power-play. Happy Thanksgiving. --SVTCobra 00:59, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I know this comment comes a bit late, and probably won't be read, but I have to say that navies from all nations routinely dock at foreign ports. I guess it's just tradition. I was on the Kitty Hawk from 2002 to 2005, and we made port visits to Hong Kong three times, Pusan twice, as well as Singapore, and Fremantle. We also visited Guam twice, but that island is part of the United States. The Australian navy makes regular port visits to Japan as well as several other navies from around the world.

A Chinese power play to deny entry to US warships that travel to Hong Kong from ports in Japan? Sure its only the Chinese playing around here? 66.157.100.253 01:08, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

well played, lol! why is the carrier there anyway? Apart from the politics of it, i think the idea of letting U.S soldiers stay in HK over thanksgiving probably didn't appeal to the police, they don't exactly have a reputation for not causing trouble! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.210.78 (talk) 05:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * They also have a reputation for spending a lot of money, which is why they are tolerated. Hong Kong has a fleet landing and a large number of water taxis dedicated to ferrying sailors from all nations to and from their ships. Along with the dozens of brothels in Wan Chai, they bring hundreds of thousands of dollars into the local economy every year.

Why is a US warship trying to dock in China?!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.244.17.144 (talk) 18:02, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

visit to Kittyhawk 1963 in hong kong
Hi....I had the great pleasure to visit this great ship when it arrived in Hong Kong in 1963.Due to its size,it anchored off of Lantau Island. I was a School boy at the time,and remember my visit as if it were yesterday. I was treated superbly by the sailors at that time and given some memorabilia which I have today,and cherrish. I now live in Central Florida,and would one day love to re-visit her now she has gone into retirement. Can you please let me know how I can go about making such a visit. Thankyou. Robert A Allen..Orlando.—89.194.69.143 (talk) 07:55, 15 September 2010 (UTC)


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In the spirit of US Thanksgiving tradition, two turkeys receive presidential pardon

November 22, 2007 On Tuesday, the press and members of the National Turkey Federation gathered in large numbers at the White House's Rose Garden in the United States to witness an annual Thanksgiving tradition in the U.S., a presidential pardon of two Thanksgiving turkeys.

Every year, a U.S. President gives a pardon to two turkeys, saving them from being put on a dinner table somewhere in America. This year, President George W. Bush pardoned two turkeys named May and Flower, who were both chosen for the pardon by the citizens of the U.S.

"Each of you is taking part in a tradition that goes back to the days of Harry Truman. And to paraphrase Harry today, we have a message for our two feathered friends: You cannot take the heat -- and you're definitely going to stay out of the kitchen. I thank everybody who voted online to choose the names for our guests of honor. And I'm pleased to announce the winning names [May and Flower]. [These names are] certainly better than the names the vice president suggested, which was Lunch and Dinner," Bush said jokingly.

After receiving the pardons, the turkeys got a special ride in a three-car motorcade to Dulles Airport, which included an array of lights, sirens and police motorcycles. From there, both turkeys were flown to Orlando, Florida on a plane dubbed United Turkey One where they were the Grand Marshalls for today's Thanksgiving Day parade in Walt Disney World. Both turkeys received a welcome which included a red carpet, and free passes to the park.

"So now I have a task, and that is to grant a full presidential pardon to May and Flower. They'll be shortly flown to Disney World, where they will serve as Honorary Grand Marshals for the Thanksgiving Day Parade. I hope that honor doesn't go to their head. May they live the rest of their lives in blissful gobbling. And may all Americans enjoy a holiday full of love and peace. God bless you all," added Bush.


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Comments:In the spirit of US Thanksgiving tradition, two turkeys receive presidential pardon

You've got to be kidding me.

well atleast hes not declaring war.....unlesss...

 * It's a US Tradition, going back several years.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.5.3.223 (talk) 17:12, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Both turkeys received a welcome which included a red carpet, and free passes to the park. - millions of people are living with less than a dollar a day, children are starving to death or working in slavery, and this two turkeys walk for free on the rep carpet into this park, this tradition is kind of sick.... god bless america! cheers --193.153.50.251 21:31, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, I'm in Canada and we don't pardon turkey's. This is the most absurd thing I've ever heard of.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 23:22, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It may be silly, but it has been done every year since 1989 and has its origins much further back. See: National Thanksgiving Turkey Presentation. --SVTCobra 23:29, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * We've also had a tradition where there's a church in DC that every president has either been a member of or has attended services at. Are you gonna tell me whenever we elect the first Jewish/Athiest/Muslim president that they oughta put up with a couple mornings there "Out of Tradition" too? Not to say it isn't a nice gesture, but a lot the stuff Bush's done lately has been a lot of 'nice gestures' without substance. --Jigsaw (Talk) 02:09, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Huh? What do you mean by "put up with a couple mornings there 'Out of Tradition'"? --SVTCobra 02:16, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh, attending services there. Not trying to spark a debate on religious tolerance or anything, just pointing out the flaw in using tradition as an excuse. ;) --Jigsaw (Talk) 02:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Just to point out, the carpet and such wasn't at the white house, it was down in Florida... *shrugs*. It's a harmless tradition, takes about five minutes, and makes kids happy. Lyellin 05:35, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Whoo! Americans are crazy! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.137.67.157 (talk) 15:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Disney World
They got sent to Disney World. The honor. Perhaps they'll have a rendezvous with their feathered brother Donald Duck. --Smackdat (talk) 13:55, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


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Tiffany Vise and Derek Trent land first throw quadruple salchow

November 22, 2007 On November 17, 2007, at the 2007 Trophée Eric Bompard competition in Paris, France, American pair skaters Tiffany Vise and Derek Trent, a mirror pair team, became the first pair skaters in the world to land a throw quadruple salchow jump. The jump was ratified as clean by Technical Controller Ann Hardy-Thomas, and the International Skating Union officially proclaimed it the first in international competition on Monday, November 19th.

This jump had been attempted many times in competition before, most notably by Zhang Dan and Zhang Hao of China at the 2006 Winter Olympics. Vise & Trent had tried it unsuccessfully before, as had Canada's Jessica Miller & Ian Moram and Russia's Yuko Kawaguchi & Alexander Smirnov.

This is the first quadruple jump in pair skating. The first throw triple axel in international competition was performed by Rena Inoue and John Baldwin at the 2006 Olympics.


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Batavia Air 737 loses piece of wing in flight, lands safely

November 22, 2007 A Batavia Air Boeing 737-400 has landed safely after a segment of wing up to two metres in size separated from the aircraft 15 minutes after takeoff on a domestic flight between Jakarta, Indonesia and Pontianak late on Wednesday night.

Batavia spokesman Anton Situmeang commented that the aircraft, which was carrying 138 passengers and six crew, could have continued to its destination without the part, but had returned for an emergency landing as a precaution. He went on to say that the plane's last major service was only a month or two ago, and consequently Batavia have launched their own independent investigation.

Indonesia's National Transport Safety Committee senior investigator Frans Wenas told reporters that the missing part had been located close to the airport. News website Detik.com is quoted by the International Herarld Tribune as saying that the piece struck a house, but there are no reports of injuries on the ground.

Deregulation of the Indonesian airline industry in the 1990s has resulted in the startup of many new budget carriers, including Batavia Air. However, industry analysists have raised concerns that deregulation has resulted in lax safety standards and poor industry supervision. Indonesia is now trying to address the concerns ahead of an EU review of the decision to add all Indonesian airlines to the list of air carriers banned in the EU.


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Were all those sources really used in preparing this? (sig added late) --SVTCobra 20:18, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes. All the protocols are for the other attempted tries. 70.17.172.99 20:04, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

 * OK, what's that "quote=" parameter you are using in the source template? --SVTCobra 20:18, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I was trying to quote the relevant parts of the article. I see that didn't work. 70.17.172.99 20:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


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Weasel words
I think the last paragraph should be reworked a bit, especially this bit: "This has been blamed by many on deregulation..." It is a bit weasely. Jcart1534 20:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I've tried to rewrite it a bit. I didn't reread the last paragraph since I'm struggling with a rediculously small laptop keyboard that I'll be using a lot now, and wanted to be gone on the hour. Someone should still check it over, though. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:16, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it looks fine now, Blood Red Sandman. I made some minor changes. Cheers, Jcart1534 21:52, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Size of segment
The stories that originate with Associated Press say the piece is 1.5m by 2.0m, stories that originate with Reuters say 40cm by 50cm. That's a huge difference, should we point out the discrepency in our story or do we have a reason to believe that 40 by 50 is correct. Both cite Indonesian officials. --SVTCobra 22:40, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I renamed the article to be more generic in terms of the size of piece and edited the associated reference in the article (used "up to two metres"). Hopefully that works? Jcart1534 23:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


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Councillors from Taichung City don't apologize about bully scandal at 2007 Baseball World Cup

November 28, 2007

Police in Taiwan are currently investigating the "Bully Councillors"-scandal at the 2007 Baseball World Cup. City councillors are accused of showing up for a game with only one ticket, but demanding that two or more people be allowed entry. Several baseball fans in Taiwan protested to the Taichung City Government yesterday. A witness to this scandal, who recorded its process, was threatened by some councilors and hooligans in Taichung City. However, this might be a rumor because some facts are uncertain. A Taichung City Councilor Hsiao Chieh threatened Chinese Taipei Baseball Association (CTBA) with canceling the budget for the 2007 Asian Baseball Championship. In regards to the rumors of a threat that were mentioned above, internet users in Taiwan criticized Councilors with "not wanting to admit their mistakes" and "exhibiting very ugly behavior."

According to the United Daily News in Taiwan, an internet user alleged that a councilor, who was involved in this scandal, claimed his behavior was in "service to the voters". CTBA and Taichung City Government announced to the media that "The scandal was just a misunderstanding" and that "those councillors and voters all had tickets, not bullies" extremely.

Even though this scandal is still being investigated by the police, some fans and citizens are worried that public security organizations and the government will be negligent in their handling of this scandal. They fear the truth of the culprit will never be revealed. The public hopes Taichung City Government will take responsibility for this scandal as soon as possible.


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Comments:Indian Socialist leader Jugal Kishore Raibir passes away

jugal kishorji was very active in samjwadi jan parishat .I first met him in jailpaigudi ,in the 5th biannual meeting which held in jalpaigudi.His ability to manage ,organise and attract people is very high. Very lovable person,always consider others.his demise create a deep lost of samajwadi jan parishat,vidhyarthy yuvajan sabha.He is a man of truth and love. Lijoy Thomas dt president VIDHYARTHY YUVAJAN SABHA,KOTTAYAM, KERALA.
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Comments:Fears grow about U.S. dollar stability

Dollar
The dollar is finally gonna pop. A replacement currency ALREADY needs to be implemented, but with these developments... Contralya 02:41, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you out of your mind? A "replacement currency"? You want our current currency to have more value, but then you propose a solution that would bankrupt the country temporarily. Great. irid t i [mailto:ironiridis@gmail.com e]  02:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If the US government would het their fingers out of their asses and stop spending money on useless wars and materials, then maybe it would be higher. Maybe stop sending American jobs to foreign countries too. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hear hear!! irid t i [mailto:ironiridis@gmail.com e]  02:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I am not saying that that a new currency is the only way to solve the problem, I was just thinking about how much the dollar was worth sixty years ago, people would get payed only a couple dollars per hour and not be poor... Contralya 04:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Your not taking inflation into account I think... Think about it: if you were to suddenly slash the last zero of everybodies paycheck (so you now earn, say 200 "new" dollars a month), and all prices lost there last zere (so a cinema ticket would now cost ca. 1,50 "new" dollars), would anybody be richer or poorer than they are today ?. Regards Sean Heron 12:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You have a point, but if the currency was implemented after the current crisis passes, it would better be able to compete with other currencies. And, it would probably be closer to what it was 50 years ago. Contralya 14:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Open Market Operations
Spending has nothing to do with it. At least, not directly.

The only thing that can cause inflation of any significance is an increase in the money supply. In the United States, that means the Fed goes into Open market operations.

What the lower target rate means is that they will indeed increase the supply of money in an attempt to bring the cost of it down. So in other words, the devaluation of the currency is neither surprising nor particularly alarming. It's exactly what the Fed set out to do; and they have the power to suck money out of the economy should they choose to do so.

All this talk about the collapse of the dollar lacks any kind of historic perspective. The rate of inflation in recent years is not nearly so bad as it was in the 60's, 70's, and early 80's.

The talk of the dollar's demise is greatly exaggerated. I challenge anyone to demonstrate that the current Open market operations are so reckless as to cause a complete monetary collapse. Countries have survived with double-digit inflation before--it was not so long ago that America did.

Amargo Scribe 04:16, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

 * I see your point, but, what about china foreclosing on 900billion dollars? What about all of this stock market stuff, the social security stuff, and the big oil deals that may be made in Euros?

Joe Burd 01:45, 21 September 2007 (EST)

 * Irrelevant. First of all, social security has nothing whatsoever to do with inflation.  Second, the China thing is, as far as I can tell from the article linked to in this article's sources, has more to do with trade negotiations than anything else.  The stock market may indeed respond to fluctuations in the dollar value, but it cannot cause them.  As for supposed big oil deals that may be made in Euros, I don't entirely understand the point you're trying to make.  Are you suggesting that the United States will start to make such deals using only Euros?  If not, then what are we talking about here?  Each country already uses its own currencies for the most part; and each country is free to exchange those currencies for ours and vice versa.  Where, exactly, is the crises?  Amargo Scribe 13:24, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

 * The main reason that the U.S. economy can take a beating, but remain stable is not necessarily under the control of the Federal Reserve, but rather as a result of several factors, most notably being the U.S.-Saudi Arabian Joint Economic Commission agreements that took place between the U.S. and House of Saud between 1972-1974. The U.S. promised Saudi Arabia military cooperation and protection, and the House of Saud agreed to only do oil business exclusively in U.S. currency. Saudi Arabia has always been the largest oil producer and the leader of OPEC. It is also the only member of the cartel that does not have an allotted production quota. It is the 'swing producer', meaning that it can increase or decrease oil production to bring oil draught or glut in the world market. As a result of this situation, Saudi Arabia practically determines oil prices. Soon after the agreement with Saudi government, an OPEC agreement accepted this, and since then all oil has been traded in US dollars. Hence the oil standard became the dollar standard. Those historic agreements ensured the U.S. dollar's status as the world reserve currency and that also meant that any nations wanting to conduct business with OPEC had to stock-pile use U.S. currency. In recent years, a number of oil-producing countries have started moving away from the dollar hegemony, always with good results for that nation, and that's been a major point of concern for the U.S. In May, Kuwait began doing business in Euros, mainly, and U.S. currency as a secondary option and the move's had an excellent impact on Kuwait's economy. Here's some food for thought... Six months before the U.S. attacked Iraq, the Oil Ministry said that the nation was preparing to move away altogether from U.S. currency and sell their oil exclusively in Euros. Even Alan Greenspan said, in his new book, that the war with Iraq was always about oil and ensuring the stability of the U.S. dollar hegemony. In 2004, Iran announced that it was forming an International Oil Bourse, that would also have included Venezuela and Russia, that would also do business exclusively in Euros. Suddenly, the U.S. wants to start another war on false pretenses, but Iran is currently the 4th largest oil producer in the world and, coupled with other significant nations, could outright threaten the dollar's status. On this note, if enough oil-producing nations stop trading in U.S. currency, that could definitely contribute toward and eventually trigger the dollar's collapse. In terms of the Fed's dramatic cuts, those moves will further decrease international confidence in and support for the U.S. dollar, as well as U.S. treasury and bond markets in general. Then, you also have to take into account China's role and ability to destabilize the U.S. economy through significant foreclosure measures. There are in fact many variables to consider and, without a doubt, the U.S. dollar is at an all time low in terms of it's credibility, value, and status as reserve currency.

Amero will be "replacement currency" and will replace U.S., Canadian & Mexican currencies
I have a lot of information about this on my blog, Disinformation Today, but the governments of North America, collectively, have been taking steps for several years now to create a "North American Union". North American leaders have speculated for years, and especially since the formation of the EU and its currency, the Euro, that a new union might have to be built in order to ultimately compete with the new European currency. This will become more true when, eventually, Britain joins the union and their currency is added to the overall value of a brand new, improved Euro.

Presently, these steps are being taken through existing agreements like NAFTA and Smart Borders and through new agreements such as the Security & Prosperity Partnership of North America. In fact, you do some research into the matter, you'll see there's already a number of new initiatives on the table to merge borders, security, infrastructure and money.

On a mainstream note, CNN's Lou Dobb's frequently talks about these issues and a lot of facts can be found on CNN.

So, when someone suggested, as a comment to this article, that a "replacement currency" be rolled out, it's not a stupid suggestion by any means whatsoever.

It's a reality in the works.

 * Lol, you believe a mere rumor! There is no way they could keep that secret. Read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero People jumping to conclusions are how conspiracy theories get out of hand, like Roswell, were do you think the government experiments with new aircraft designs? It's all in the article.Contralya 10:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Joe Burd 09:43, 21 September 2007 (EST)

 * You're comparing a new currency to conspiracy theories and Roswell? Let's a grip, folks. And just because Wikipedia likens it to the latter, it doesn't make it true. Do a bit more research like, for example, Google the Amero as well as SPP agreement I already mentioned. Is the Euro a big conspiracy, too?
 * As big a conspiracy as weather or not FDR knew about pear harbor and didn't warn the military so there would be more support for the war he wanted. Face it, just because a lot of people believe it, doesn't make it true (like sharks hunting humans). A lot of people saying something doesn't make it true (like Russians being communist). I would like to see an official government source for this Euro talk, all ANYONE but theorists has done is deny it and the evidence is stacked against it. There is little evidence for it and it is mostly speculation. Did you read the article I put the link up for? Why do people think that JUST because there were some coins means that there is a secret 'amero' being prepared? I am sure there are lots of prototype coins for all kinds of things. I bet they have a trans-Atlantic coin (who knows what it's name would be).

I remember once I saw a bill for 1 mill with bush on the front and oil Darrick's on the back!Contralya 14:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

The Truth
If you wanna know the truth about the Federal Reserve, download Zeitgeist. Once you watch it, none of this stuff will surprise you. Raphael s 22:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

The truth? Bah! LOADS of speculation and guesses. Not hard facts. Contralya 14:18, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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Canadian cruise ship sinking in Antarctic

November 23, 2007 Canadian cruise ship MS Explorer is sinking in Antarctic waters, near the South Shetland Islands. Having struck an unknown underwater object and taking on water, all but the captain and chief officer of the 156 on board, have abandoned ship for life boats and await rescue.

Despite having a strong reinforced ice breaking hull, the ship is said to be listing heavily and expected to sink soon. A cruise ship in the vicinity, the Antarctic Dream, has been diverted to help but is not expected to arrive until at least 11.00 hours UTC. Four Argentine vessels were also dispatched but are not expected to arrive for some time.

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Bomb blasts rock courts in Uttar Pradesh, India

November 23, 2007

Five bombs went off nearly simutaneously in three Indian cities in the state of Uttar Pradesh. Court houses in Lucknow, Varanasi and Faizabad were rocked. The attack on the justice system killed 13 people and injured another 61.

"These are all soft targets. Weapons and explosives are no more a challenge for these groupings," said Ajai Sahni, an executive director of the New Delhi-based Institute for Conflict Management. "Uttar Pradesh has long been a target because it's a poorly administered state and a poor state."

Police in New Delhi have increased security at bus stands, airports, shopping areas and railway stations. According to CNN IBN, the government will pay Rs.200,000 to the families of those killed. Those who were injured will receive Rp.50,000.

In Lucknow, an unexploded device with a timer was found. All the other bombs went off at around 1:30 p.m. IST (UTC+5:30).

"It's too early to say who are behind the blasts, but it is very clear that the blasts were pre-planned," according to Shriprakash Jaiswal, a junior home minister. "The investigating agencies have got down to the job."


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MS Explorer cruise ship passengers are safe

November 23, 2007 All passengers and crew from the stricken Canadian cruise ship MS Explorer are safe. Since broadcasting a call for help at approximately 05:24 UTC, a number of vessels in the area have raced to rescue her 156 passengers and crew. Four vessels led by the cruise ship the Endeavour were the first to arrive and pick up the evacuees from lifeboats and RIBs, later being transferred to the Norwegian ship, MS Nordnorge.

In less than one hour all passengers and crew, said to be cold but in good health, were safely transferred to the Nordnorge, and that vessel is now heading towards King George Island, three or four hours steaming away. Speaking on the BBC's News 24, the captain of the Nordnorge said that he was heading for the Chilean research station, from where it is expected that all can be flown back to the South American mainland.

Off the South Shetland Islands the ship struck an underwater object (believed to be a submerged iceberg ) the Explorer developed a fist sized crack and began taking on water. Initially said to be listing to starboard at 25° the Argentine Coast Guard reports that the list has since increased to 45° and the vessel is expected to sink soon. Concerns now turn to possible environmental concerns and damage.

The rescue effort was an international affair involving the coast guards of Argentina, USA, Chile and the UK. The UK's Maritime and Coastguard Agency received notification from the US Coast Guard between 5.30-6.00 asking for the Explorer's emergency data plans.


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Records, competitiveness and creations centre-stage at 2007 Soochow International 24H Ultra-Marathon

November 29, 2007 Founded in 1999, and the first-ever 24 hour ultra-marathon race in Taiwan, the 7th Soochow International 24H Ultra-Marathon, took place on November 24-25, 2007. Even though the race has been suspended in the past, in 2000 and 2006, due to poor conditions on the track field, several world-class runners participated in the 2007 race.

First-ever Hall of Fame to Ryoichi Sekiya
According to Soochow University, the host and organizer of the games, the juries judged this award from some conditions especially on results of past races world-wide and in Taiwan, including World Cup Ultra-Marathon.

On November 23, the juries declared Japanese runner Ryoichi Sekiya as the first runner in the Hall of Fame of the 2007 games as Sekiya currently holds the record for Asia's 24h ultra-marathon race, supervised by International Association of Ultrarunners.

A difficult 24-hours battle
As the host declared the game with a "final battle" of ultra-marathon to the world, the 24-hour and 12-hour classes started on November 24. Participants in those classes would fight until next morning (November 25), and they had to reverse their directions every four hours during the race.

But due to some unforeseen disturbances from Typhoon Mitag, the weather was uncertain from day to night. The uncertain conditions caused some runners to enter the medical station frequently.

Two Japanese break Asia's Record respectively
Runners from the Japanese Team showed their best strength and endurance during the long and difficult 24-hour race, as it sometimes rained and shined in Taipei City.

Finally, Ryoichi Sekiya ran 275.684 km to retain his championship, and his teammate Sumie Inagaki ran 232.92 km to win the Women's 24H Championship. They respectively broke Asia's 24hr ultra-marathon records in men's and women's classes in this race.

Local Volunteers show the quality of this race
According to some information at SCU Taiwan, the SCU recruited their students to volunteer as administrations of the race, including lap-counting (12hr and 24hr classes), medical service, competition controlling, and real-time multilingual translation as volunteers.

With their participation, they not only gained experience as administrators and organizers, but their teachers can also evaluate their service quality and inherit their leaderships for sports organizations in Taiwan when organizations want to hold an international competition in the future.

Top 3 of 24 hours

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 * Mohamed Magroun (France), 241.85km
 * Sheng-ming Wu (Taiwan), 216.264km
 * Women's Group:
 * Sumie Inagaki (Japan), 232.92km
 * Shu-jong Chiu (Taiwan), 211.375km
 * Hiroko Okiyama (Japan), 210.749km

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 * Men's Group: Ya-jun Hsiao (Taiwan), 126km
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I participated in this Press Conference and wrote with what I've seen, photo added. Brock contact... 15:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Re-write b/c it should be merged as a whole scale. This article was translated a little from 3 articles at Chinese version. Photo added with what I've seen. Brock contact... 15:14, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

C/ed
I copyedited this article a little bit. As much as Brock's articles are interesting and show us what's going on in Taiwan, this article cannot be published yet. "With these two principles, he became notable world-wide as he kept to challenge further goals" sounds too promotional. Also, where is the news in this article? All I see is promotion.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 05:14, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Notice: Sekiya is a Japanese, and also the Champion of 2007 IAU World Cup 24hr Ultra Marathon Race, but he received this award in Taiwan. maybe this news should be re-write some. And the title should be re-name, but I don't think what to be renamed properly.Brock contact... 09:45, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Ready to merge
I'll re-write this article by merging from 3-days highlights at Chinese Wikinews. Brock contact... 04:54, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge OK, now re-collect information. Brock contact... 17:45, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


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Kitty Hawk and other U.S. warships' visit to Hong Kong canceled

November 23, 2007 The United States aircraft-carrier USS Kitty Hawk CV-63 and the rest of her carrier-group, were scheduled to make a port visit to Hong Kong the Thanksgiving holiday. Without warning China refused to allow the Kitty Hawk to dock, before reversing the decision without explanation. However, by that time bad weather and logistics forced the Kitty Hawk and its attendant ships to return to Japan.

This left many families of sailors who had intended to spend the holiday in Hong Kong without their family members from the ships. The crews instead celebrated the holiday on board their ships.

China has not explained why the carrier group was denied entry nor why the sudden reversal of the decision occurred. Admiral Timothy Keating, the commander for the U.S. forces in the Pacific, said that he did not understand why China had made its decision and was "concerned".

This is not the first time that China had denied entry to U.S. ships, but previous denials have occurred in response to tension or diplomatic disputes and there was no obvious motivation for the recent Chinese decision. Speculated reasons for the decision include possible responses to disagreements over Iran's nuclear program and the recent United States decision to give a medal to the Dalai Lama.

This visit was to be the last visit of the Kitty Hawk to Hong Kong, as the Kitty Hawk is scheduled to be decommissioned when the new USS George Washington (CVN-73), a modern nuclear powered carrier, comes align.


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Talk:Councillors from Taichung City don't apologize about bully scandal at 2007 Baseball World Cup

Who the heck allowed this to be published!? The whole series of baseball world cup articles seems to have been put through a free online translator.
 * NOT a free online translator. Just because I have only basic level on translating English, If you DON'T LIKE, PLEASE NOMINATE TO DELETE ALL MY PUBLISHED SERIES, and I'll QUIT the AR!!!!! Brock contact... 11:24, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

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Hi Brock, I did some copy-editing. I removed this "With those words above, it revealed the corruption and decay of governmental people, who didn't respect on citizens and baseball fans in Taiwan." because drawing a conclusion such as this is a violation of WN:NPOV, we should just provide facts and let the readers draw their own conclusions.

But more importantly, what is the scandal of the "Bully Councillors"? The article does not mention what the councillors are accused of doing. This is a very important piece that is missing. And again, please check that I got my other changes right. Cheers, --SVTCobra 15:35, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Oh, and please ignore the rude comment from the Anon above. --SVTCobra 17:20, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * In fact, "Bully Councilors" was called by local people in Taiwan b/c they were suspected on abusing privileges by accompanying their supporters without any tickets. The policy on entrance should be "one ticket by one person, not one ticket by two or more persons." Brock contact... 17:42, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


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Finnish PM: Media to be investigated over conduct at Jokela shooting

November 23, 2007

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Prime Minister of Finland Matti Vanhanen told reporters at a Wednesday press conference that a board of inquiry formed to investigate the Jokela school shooting will now also look into how the media conducted itself reporting the incident. The move is understood to be a response to a petition initiated by young local residents.

Over 2,000 people have signed the petition both in the area and on the internet. The petition alleges that survivors and victims relatives were 'harassed' by reporters in the aftermath of the shooting, which saw nine people shot dead at Jokela High School, including the gunman. The youths demand a public apology.

"Tuija Brax, the justice minister, will set up a board of inquiry to investigate the Jokela tragedy and the role of the media will be included in this inquiry," Vanhanen told reporters. He went on to express that he valued the document and felt it warranted summoning several other ministers. However, he stressed the view that his government should not attempt to control the press.

Representatives of the media had earlier responded to the allegations by saying that although they deny the allegations, they are not surprised by them. However, both the Mannerheim League for Child Welfare, and the Ombudsman for Children in Finland, Maria Kaisa Aula, have expressed their support for the Jokela youth, although Aula has commented that she believes most of the reporters did act 'ethically'.


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Baseball pitcher Joe Kennedy dies

November 24, 2007 Free agent left-handed pitcher Joe Kennedy, 28, died suddenly on Friday in Brandon, Florida where he was visiting his wife's family.

Kennedy was at an in-laws' home where he collapsed shortly after 1:15 a.m. He was taken to Brandon Regional Hospital where he was pronounced dead. No cause of death was yet formally determined, although some observers speculated he sustained an aneurysm or heart failure.

Since leaving the Oakland Athletics, Kennedy signed with the Arizona Diamondbacks briefly during August 2007 then being released the same month. Kennedy then joined the Toronto Blue Jays late that month.

The 6-foot, 4-inch southpaw pitched at Grossmont Junior College in El Cajon, California before being drafted by the Tampa Bay Devil Rays in the 8th round of the 1998 amateur draft. Kennedy pitched a total of 908.7 innings with a winning percentage of .413 and a 4.5 ERA for his career.

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Yes, denying thousands of servicemen visitation with their families really sends a message to those Yankee bastards... Spacehusky 23:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


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Denmark convicts three in terror plot case

November 24, 2007

On Friday, the High Court of Eastern Denmark (Østre Landsret) convicted three of four defendants of planning a terrorist attack against Denmark. The three were found guilty of acquiring triacetone triperoxide (TATP) in order to make bombs. TATP is believed to have been the explosive used in the London bombings of July 7, 2005.

Two of the men are Danish citizens. Mohammad Zaher, age 34, is a Dane of Palestinian origin. Abdallah Andersen, age 32, is a Dane who converted to Islam. Ahmed Khaldhahi, age 22, is an Iraqi of Kurdish ethnicity. The fourth defendant, also a Danish citizen, Riad Anwar Daabas, age 19, was acquitted.

Zaher and Khaldhahi were each sentenced to eleven years in prison, while Andersen received a four year sentence. All had faced life in prison, but the prosecutor asked for no more than 14 years.

The evidence against the men included a bomb-making manual and about two ounces of TATP found at Zaher's home, as well as, wire-tapped conversations which were made possible by an uncover agent known only as Lars.

Lars, age 33, is a Dane that converted to Islam. He contacted Politiets Efterretningstjeneste (PET), the national security intelligence agency of Denmark, after he encountered radical Muslims at the mosque he attended. The PET did acknowledge that Lars was a paid informant, with payments totalling some DKK84,000 (approximately US$16,700).

The defense, which denied the charges, argued that the recordings were made of them while they were joking about possible attacks. The defense also said that Lars was the one that bought and paid for the chemicals needed to make TATP. They also said that Lars encouraged them to do and say things they would otherwise not have done or said.

However, Judge Folmer Theilmann found that the anonymous witness Lars was both "credible" and a "good citizen" for his cooperation with the PET.

"There is every indication that the group had concrete and serious discussions about three possible targets in Copenhagen: the city hall square, the parliament and political meeting (areas)," said prosecutor Charlotte Alsing Juul.

Magnus Ranstorp, an expert on terrorism, said to Berlingske Tidende: "The length of the sentences sends a clear signal, that if one sets out on this course of action, one risks severe punishments. It can contribute to discourage young muslims, who are entering a radical islamic milieu or are on the verge. Hopefully, they will think twice and change course."

Ranstorp went on to say that the verdict was a validation of the investigative methods of the PET and its use of civilian informants. However, he thought that the criticism of Lars during this case, would result in the PET tightening their procedures.

The defendants were arrested on September 5, 2006, in a sting operation that involved 400 police officers. Nine people were arrested in the Vollsmose neighborhood of Odense, on the island of Funen (Fyn). Two were released the day after the arrest. Four others, including Daabas, were released later. Only those convicted remained jailed throughout.


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Hi. Please only write news articles. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:16, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

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Mattia Ciancaleoni (born March 20, 1975 in Foligno,Perugia, Italy) is a japanese equity stock broker. He is a graduate of London School of Economics and School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London. He lives in Japan with wife and daughter

 * You can put the above on your user page if you want. But you created it as article, which is not permitted. Cheers, --SVTCobra 03:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

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Baby falls from third floor window and survives

November 24, 2007

On Thursday, November 22, Thanksgiving Day, Bradley Priebe, a one-year-old baby boy fell from a third floor apartment window in New York City, New York. He has now been allowed to leave the hospital after staying overnight for observation. According to reports, the child sustained no serious injures from the fall and is in stable condition.

Anna Priebe, the baby's mother says that it is "a miracle" that her son did not break any bones. Brandon, the father, says that the boy is doing "good. Everything's OK."

Bradley crawled out of the window and fell onto the roof of a Bronx music shop. The window was nearly 20 feet from the ground. The family thought the window was closed.

Police say that there is no reason to suspect that the incident is a criminal action, and no charges have been filed against the parents.


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Comments:MS Explorer cruise ship passengers are safe

Interesting Story...

The real story failed to make it into most of the major media. That story is that this was a ship full of environmental explorers hoping to see the toll Global Warming has taken upon the Antarctic. It seems that the brutally cold weather bit them back. The upshot is that not only did their journey cause more carbon to enter the environment via the ship engine combustion, but now the ship is lying on the bottom of the ocean where it will pose further environmental problems. How much better off would we all be if they had just stayed home? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RD Register (talk • contribs) 18:57, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


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Australia Votes 2007: Early results suggest Labor win

November 24, 2007

Early results in the Australian federal election held today show that the opposition Labor Party led by Kevin Rudd looks set to take government. Such a result would end 11 years under the leadership of the Liberal/National coalition led by John Howard.

Early results indicate a 5.25 percent swing to Labor, with 12 percent of the vote counted. If the pattern is continued through the night, Labor could end up with a ten seat majority in the Australian House of Representatives allowing Mr Rudd to form government.

Mr Howard may also face an uphill battle to hold onto his Sydney seat of Bennelong, with Labor recruit Maxine McKew 47.3 percent of the primary vote to Mr Howard's 42.7 percent.

Update 10:04 UTC
At 9:04 PM (AEDT), Labor leads the election with 68 seats, the coalition 43 with 37 still undecided.

Mr Howard also continues to fight for his seat of Bennelong, with the Labor candidate leading Mr Howard 45.95 to 45.19 on the primary vote.

Update 10:50 UTC
According to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, Labor will win the election. Labor's deputy leader Julia Gillard has said Labor had all but won.

"On the numbers we're seeing tonight, Labor is going to form a government," she said.

Officially, Labor has won 71 seats, the coalition 50 with 27 undecided. 63.84 percent of the vote has been counted. Labor has received a 5.89 percent swing against the incumbent coalition.

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Talk:Kitty Hawk and other U.S. warships' visit to Hong Kong canceled

May want to mention that the Kitty Hawk has never been to Hong Kong while it's been the flagship carrier at Yokosuka. The last American carrier to dock in Hong Kong was the Independence in 1997, shortly before handover. TheCustomOfLife 09:39, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


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Original reporting notes
Replace this with your OR notes please! --81.240.18.105 09:56, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry I got carried away with the whole election. This article was written based off data from the Australian Electoral Commission - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 09:58, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Please add updates not replace existing sections
When updating the polling results, please add updates and don't change existing sections - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 10:42, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

New article for significant events
When victory/concession speeches are made can we please have new articles as these are significant events on their own - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 10:56, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


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Comments:Denmark convicts three in terror plot case

Questions
Due to the English article "Denmark convicts three in terror plot case" arise questions if the Danish judges had all informations needed to decide about the fate of young people. Why is it allowed to use agents provocateurs to criminalize young people? Why the population has to be kept in the state of fear of terrorism?

Widespread sources
1. The so called RAF of Germany was systematically criminalized being delivered weapons by the BND, the German Security Service. The article is only available in German and says that all weapons and explosives in the beginnings had been brought by undercover agent Peter Urbach together with the advices how to use them. 2. "Loose Change 2nd Edition recut" is one of the most often seen movies of video.google.de and it is one of the sources explaining London 7/7 had been an inside job to enable more surveillance and had nothing to do with arabic terrorists, same as 9/11. Sources and contents allow critical questioning. The respect of the situation on the sector of the scarcity of energy and the power to ensure it allows logical conclusions. There was no other way than faked terrorism to attack Afghanistan and Iraque. The human right to live was heavily neglected not only there but also in New York, London and Madrid. Now we have the sources, we don't have to believe, we can observe and have to know, we are responsible.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Urbach http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501 -Justice


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Pan-Green and Pan-Blue Coalitions battled intensively before the 2008 Legislators' Election in Taiwan

November 25, 2007 Before the Legislative Elections and Presidential Election in Taiwan, conflicts between the Pan-Green and Pan-Blue Coalitions were more and more intensive. Some politicians participated in the trade fair at the Taipei World Trade Center earlier, and Annette Lu, vice-president of the Republic of China, and Chen Shui-bian, president of the Republic of China, were never booed by some citizens because of the hot topic of commodities prices. This time, the Taipei City Government has battled to the Executive Yuan with some opinion on the "Gate of Great Centrality and Perfect Uprightness" in the Chiang Kai-shek Memorial Hall and the voting process of the Legislative Elections.

In fact, the conflicts on the naming issue from Chiang Kai-shek Memorial Hall to National Taiwan Democracy Memorial Hall was never a hot topic because governments like Executive Yuan still supported the movement of "Removing Chiang-Kai-shek-related things". After the Ministry of Education planned to remove four Chinese Words in the "Gate of Great Centrality and Perfect Uprightness", the Taipei City Mayor Lung-pin Hau was angered over this. With those hot issues above, some Pan-Greens criticized that Hau equaled to the PRC. Not only the issue of Chiang Kai-shek Memorial Hall, but 18 divisions controlled by the KMT Mayors or Magistrates demonstrated that on the Central Election Commission on the voting process of the Legislative Elections. The Premier of ROC Chun-hsiung Chang stressed: "If any division violates our (meant to Executive Yuan) policy to hold the Legislative Elections, and "officials in those divisions won't get the retirement payment in the future!" This word caused conflicts between the two main Coalitions. With some rumors on the "Protest" and Chen Shui-bian was registered currently in Taipei City, Chen angered those opposes and directly said: "I would like to confiscate elections on those DAMN (meant to Pan-Blue) divisions."

As Hau replied, "Rather not giving any votes" to Chen, Chen replied to Hau again: "What a DAMN world? What a DAMN place? What a DAMN mayor? What's the hell? What a DAMN innocence? The public have rights to vote, why NOT to give votes? If Hau is DARE not giving votes, I'd like to obey the law and take the votes!" Those phenomenas will still effect the 2008 Taiwan Presidential Elections.


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Naked News presents a new style of news

November 24, 2007 Naked News' slogan reads “The Program With Nothing to Hide,” and everything holds true to that. The Canadian-based program presents the news completely bare, with little exception, including a segment they present outside naked. The exception being if they are in the process of disrobing, or if they are reporting a tragic news event. Gabriel Pollard, writing for Wikinews, interviewed Victoria Sinclair about the “sensual, but not sexual” Naked News, and her presenting role.

The show had a fairly basic start, with two friends, Fernando Perreira and Kirby Stasnyk, bluntly thinking that the news would be better presented naked. Sinclair said, “In this case, these men had the means and the will to turn their idea into reality.” A Russian program with a similar concept, "600 seconds" on M1 TV, in which news anchor Svetlana Pesotskaya removed an article of clothing after each story, received high ratings within eight months of its introduction in 1999. Naked Broadcasting Network Inc. also started a male edition in 2001, but this was discontinued a few years later due to lack of interest from its key demographic, the gay community. It failed to get the same kind of grounding experienced by the female edition. Later imitators in Hong Kong and Japan have also proved successful.

In 1999—its inception—Naked News only had around 8,000 subscribers of a free five-minute show hosted on Daily Dirt. They now boast six million paid subscribers to a much longer news program of 22-minutes produced every six days from 172 countries worldwide. Lead Anchor and spokeswoman Victoria Sinclair puts the success of the international viewership due to the “captivating, saucy, and certainly different” way of presenting the news, “That certainly counts when the news is bad—which it often is.” The public loves the format, and have become “quite attached” to the anchors, says 38-year-old Sinclair.

“I believe the secret to our success is that we challenged the accepted boundaries while keeping it clean and tasteful.

“I think the way has been paved for us by mainstream journalism; we would never have been embraced so eagerly by the world if it weren’t well prepared.”

Sinclair says the reason she got attracted to the Naked News program in the first place was because of its originality, and it felt “very adventurous and underground.” “I think we have a friendlier way of delivering the news....”

As well as the show being streamed onto the Internet, another version of the show called Naked News TV! is also available on pay-per-view in the United States, Europe, Canada, Australia, etc. Naked News TV! is a weekly 50-minute show and marks Naked News' success at porting over from the Internet to television.

While Sinclair has been presenting Naked News since the pilot programme in May 1999 – production started in December 1999 – she can't see herself doing anything else, unless it is equally as “unusual”, involves technology, and the Internet. However, she did take a year sabbatical after 9/11. She left her previous job of marketing because it was no longer fulfilling. Sinclair plans to continue her anchoring role in Naked News, and holding a position of Public Relations, as the show expands into the new markets of South Korea and Italy until the time comes that she looks better non-nude.

Her “loving and supportive” family and friends are entirely supportive of her current profession. “They are all accustomed to me as it is through their influence that I have become such an independent freethinker.”

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I talked to Victoria Sinclair over e-mail. --Nzgabriel | Talk 11:39, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * sorry for you ! (smile ... ;) Jacques Divol 15:21, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice one Jacques. :-) --Brian McNeil / talk 19:57, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

This has really jumped in popularity fast. Its number 32 currently (Based on hits since beginning of the month). For something just published and published later in the month, that is really good. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:44, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Anything that has Naked or Sex in the title is likely to be popular.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 00:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Appropriateness of editing?
I saw this listed as a "featured story" and added information to it like a normal news story, but now I've noticed it originated as an "interview". It would seem strange not to add facts to a prose article, especially when mentioning competitors to a business enterprise, yet such would compromise a true interview format. My feeling is that true interviews should be written more clearly as consisting of a series of quotations so that there is no uncertainty. 70.15.116.59 21:04, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Our wiki-format allows every user to contribute and edit interviews, as long as the quotes themselves remain unchanged. I kinda like the style Gabriel has in most interviews, in which quotes are mixed with prose, and I don't see any real need to change that. So: yes, editing original articles, even interviews, is appropriate. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)


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Comments:Baby falls from third floor window and survives

Now that is one little superman! Contralya 15:25, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * you know, the unique way to fly is to miss floor. This little one tested the dark side of education, :) . (i did not read the article, i just try fun, sorry) Jacques Divol 15:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

where on earth were the parents of Bradley????????????? I feel sorry 4 the poor kid. I hope he is all right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.95.30.192 (talk) 23:42, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Pan-Green and Pan-Blue Coalitions battled intensively before the 2008 Legislators' Election in Taiwan

I c/ed the article. Brock or someone, please check to see if my copy edits are okay.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 15:48, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


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Comments:Colombia ends Chávez-FARC mediations

Someone should post this on Fark.com ;)

New events on this story.
New important events on this story have happened yesterday. Strong statements have been crossed over between President of Venezuela Hugo Chávez and President of Colombia Alvaro Uribe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaime Saldarriaga (talk • contribs) 11:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

New events on this story.
New important events on this story have happened yesterday. Strong statements have been crossed over between President of Venezuela Hugo Chávez and President of Colombia Alvaro Uribe.Listen to news on BBC. Jaime Saldarriaga, Bogotá. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaime Saldarriaga (talk • contribs) 11:33, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


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