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Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2009/October

Volunteers still needed
Hi all,

Although we removed the centralnotice that was up, the Wikimedia Foundation is still looking for volunteers to serve as subject area experts or to sit on task forces that will study particular areas and make recommendations to the Foundation about its strategic plan. You may apply to serve on a task force or register your name as an expert in a specific area at http://volunteer.wikimedia.org.

The Foundation's strategy project is a year-long collaborative process which is hosted on the strategy wiki, at http://strategy.wikimedia.org. Your input is welcome (and greatly desired) there. When the task forces begin to meet, they will do their work transparently and on that wiki, and any member of the community may join fully in their work. This process is specifically designed to involve as many community members as possible.

Any questions can be addressed to me either on my talk page here or (for a much faster response) on the strategy wiki or by email to philippe at wikimedia.org.

I hope you'll consider joining us!

Philippe (talk) 01:49, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Articles copied from VOA
As of late I've seen an increasing number of articles copied from VOA News. While there's no plagiarism issues as VOA is in the PD, I think repeating material from other news agencies makes Wikinews rather redundant. Any thoughts? – Juliancolton  | Talk 22:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Doesn't hurt. Sort of a half-step below compiling news from mainstream-media and other secondary sources, and a full-step below going out and doing original reporting. Cirt (talk) 22:12, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I actually like the idea of copying them (preferably modifying them a little, if possible). I've wanted to start importing other news from other sites that was acceptably licensed... Why can't we be the AP of "Free news" ? -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 22:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess I'm mostly responsible for this, as a lot of my recent articles are partially copied from VOA. The way i look at it is: although we shouldn't be too dependent on VOA for our news and become lazy, it's a good supplement to help expand our rather patchy coverage on slow days. I also find it useful when I don't have time to do a full article - i simply copy a VOA article, add a bit from other news sources, modify a bit, and put it up for review. Besides, lots of news agencies have a practise of copying some of their news from other sources or wires to supplement coverage in areas where theirs is weak (most newspapers regularly copy stuff from reuters and AP). It doesn't hurt, at the very least. Just my two pence. Tempodivalse [talk]  22:20, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * As long as the articles are neutral, and otherwise meet our critera, i don't see a problem (as long as we don't do it to the extent sr...) Bawolff ☺☻ 22:28, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

 * VOA stuff is perfectly fair game, and for an org in the US they are quite good for international news. I would be fully in favour of looking at what they publish and taking a feed of that with a bot to put into development here. That might mean that we only take an international feed, rather than risk being swamped with US stuff that has little outside interest. BUT, any bot doing this must clearly label the story as developing, possibly with additional warnings - such as the article fails the single-source test. I reviewed a VOA-sourced article this morning, and I suspect the work I had to do on it prior to review and publication is required for all their stuff. The Wikinews WN:SG is not the same as that used by VOA, and VOA stuff has a tendency to make assumptions we should not - like "dollar", or the dollar sign, always means USD. If they're never developed further, they'll die as stale; that could even be partially automated by inserting another template into the article that a bot recognises as meaning to delete it as stale several days after it is imported and untouched. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:58, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Becoming a VOA repeat service, or the AP of Free News, would make me sad. We are here to write our own news; that's what I'm here to do and what I love doing. Asside from the odd local or OR piece, we'd quickly see our input reduced to copyediting someone else's stuff. I do like the idea of someone doing it, maybe even a Wikinews offshoot, but please, don't turn Wikinews into that, because it could well drive me away from the project. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:03, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

 * Without the human element of Wikinews, there would be no reason for Wikinews to exist. Figuring how to nurture that human element is a work in progress; perhaps we're gaining some ground, here and there, but we're still within easy sight of losing ground.  If we were to deploy a "VOAbot" on Wikinews, then, over time, the human element of Wikinews would wither and die.  Therefore its deployment would serve no useful purpose — as the thing it was being deployed on would cease to have any reason for existing.    --Pi zero (talk) 16:01, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Fully agreed. – Juliancolton  | Talk 16:02, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * And, I completely disagree with this horrifically pessimistic analysis of the potential repercussions of a VOAbot. None of these stories would get published without the human element. If as you seem convinced, it would kill contribution, then the articles would all sit for a few days, and die as stale.
 * Instead, it is an acceptance that we can build on compatibly licensed works from elsewhere to shore up our volume of content while we have a very low contributor base. More content means more readers, which means more potential contributors. More contributors means more people who might cover non-mainstream stuff, &c. I am not in any way advocating automatic publication of VOA material. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:09, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Further, and in response to some of the preconceptions I disagree with. I see the following with a VOAbot article:
 * The title must be downstyled, this is likely too complex to reliably do with a bot (so bot universally downstyles, forcing rename)
 * A second, independent source must be located that verifies the content of the VOA article
 * Content from other sources should be incorporated
 * The article needs adjusted to conform to our style guide - more strict than VOA's
 * VOA articles make too many US-centric assumptions that need dealt with for an international audience (eg $ is always USD)
 * The quality of VOA journalism is not stellar. They seem to employ low-to mediocre skill journalists, at least in their writing skills
 * This leaves a lot of scope for human input, while providing a good framework to start from. If we're not rushing to publish these as fast as possible, there is scope for participatory input - particularly from those who think VOA is U.S. Propoganda inc. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:24, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Previous discussion on this, and rejection of people doing it manually, was to some extent based around concerns with VOA's POV. This (note the develop template comment) is an example of what you have to watch for when relying heavily on them as a source. Given that, and what our 'normal' article development process and publication criteria are, you could pessimistically import the articles and automatically label them as NPOV - that might force a real questioning of what POV the article is presenting. I would rather see something in the develop template, like "|ImportedFrom=VOA", and some text, or a summary linking to a Wikinews: namespace page, where what efforts should be made in light of potential POV concerns are explained. The problem with that, is it seems like singling out one source for discrimination and saying "they're bad because of X"; this is a concern that exists with all sources. For all other sources we do tend to pick on their text more because of copyright concerns. With the above list of points I give, what else needs added? For VOA, I would say it is certain assumptions they make - Follow the money, who funds the VOA? With the given example, a strong implication of illegal activity and a certainty in the presentation that this is the case is the POV to worry about. The same for the Indian story, "rebels" to describe pro-commie people is POV, and them using the official US-gov line, influenced by Indian authorities keen to highlight local 'terrorism', presents it in fearmongering USian terms. So, we can tell people to use Aljazeera for VOA, when they need a second source. But, I think that needs expressed in a generic way, or if individual sources are to be picked out, as "VOA is funded by the United States Government. The influence this has on their reporting must be considered when selecting additional sources; consider using sources from regions, or funded by those, outwith the circle of allies of the US Government. Long-standing US Government policy and legislation may prejudice reporting on a wide variety of topics". Sitting reading that a couple of times, and thinking of some of the other sources that get used regularly should really make all of our reviewers think long and hard about WN:NPOV. --Brian McNeil / talk 02:12, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * <- Not the worlds best template, but I did create Imported news. Could use some tweaks, but I think it might be helpful. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 02:57, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That's effectively a variation on one of the existing VOA tagging templates. Still seems to have the same problems/criticisms as all machine-imported articles would have. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

As an alternative to a bot that automatically turns VOA articles into developing Wikinews articles, might we be better off with a gadget that aids the manual process of starting a Wikinews article based on a VOA article? --Pi zero (talk) 22:27, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I see that as a worse option. It requires someone actively seek a VOA story, rather than have it available here, and work through dealing with potential POV issues. As stated earlier, if the generated story is not developed it can be automatically deleted. sr.wikinews passed us on article count because of the bot approach; seeing use of such sources here (eg VOA) makes it apparent the actual process prior to publication cannot be fully automated. I'm happy to try and help random visitors who might contribute to these. And, if they see a developing story they know something about, they end up editing something that has most of the formatting right. Many potential contributors will not know you can create a page on Wikinews - you can't as a new contributor on Wikipedia. A gadget is pretty much only something for registered, and reasonably involved editors. It does require that developing stories be reasonably prominent on the main page--Brian McNeil / talk 22:52, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

VOA section break 1
What if I want to write something already imported from VOA? Will my effort be rolled into what they wrote? What if I don't want to source them at all on that particular story? Is Wikinews going to be reduced to working around VOA's POV on a large selection of articles instead of crafting our own from scratch? Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 10:03, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * If you want to write a completely different article on the subject, and even deliberately avoid the VOA source, I see nothing wrong with that. I'd support changing policy to label the VOA autogenerated story as depreciated if mergeto from it would be unsatisfactory (current policy is merge to oldest article on a particular story - which I see, and agree with, your concern about). --Brian McNeil / talk 12:43, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

We've been knocked out of first place
Looks like the Serbian Wikinews has knocked us out of first place as the language edition of Wikinews with the most published articles - they have 15 406 to our 15 399. We've lost our top spot on http://wikinews.org/. I'm surprised they reached it so quickly - just a month or two ago they were at 13k or so. Is this the first time that English is no longer the biggest wikinews addition? We gotta get back our top slot in any case, time for more articles everyone! Tempodivalse [talk]  14:00, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Wait a minute ... i looked over sr.wn's article list, and they're almost all copy-and-pastes from other news sites. No wonder they got up to the top slot so quickly. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:04, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Milos Rancic (IIRC user Millosh) is active on sr.wikinews, and told me a little about this. They have put a great deal of work into getting arrangements with other news providers to have their material on Wikinews. Looking at this from the English point of view, I think all the big news sources we would want to make deals like this with would never agree to it. Particularly not when you look back at AP sabre rattling over bloggers copying their article ledes. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:18, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not just copy and paste, it's a bot doing it completely automated. Nooooo thank you. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 15:36, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That's not fair! We can't compete with a bot. :-) Tempodivalse [talk]  15:41, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree it is unfair to ask us to compete with a bot. I would go further and say a bot cannot make sure these articles meet our project standards, but as I state in the above section, I would fully support creation of . --Brian McNeil / talk 15:01, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I am a Wikinewsie and I am willing to make bots for other Wikinews, too :) BTW, news which we are getting are plain news without comments; which means that in 99% articles meet standards. --millosh (talk) 20:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

About bot which I've created for en.wn, in the next section... --millosh (talk) 20:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Millbot-SETimes
Brian asked me to create VOAbot. I may do that, but I need some time for that (probably, a couple of working days). Until that time, I've adapted bot from sr.wn which gathers information from SETimes (it is owned by US military and thus it is PD). Until user becomes autoconfirmed (three days or so), I've added under my username three news (which were under category "Albania"): Kosovo Albanians stand trial in Belgrade, Albanian Socialists continue parliamentary boycott and Topi says Albania aware of NATO responsibilities, so you may comment the content and what do you want to see inside of the article. Initial version has been made according to IRC consultations. --millosh (talk) 20:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

As this is a content bot, I don't suggest giving a bot flag to it. --millosh (talk) 20:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Brief description of the bot is: --millosh (talk) 20:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) It gathers RSS feed from a relevant site. For example, http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/rss/en_GB/country/Albania.rss
 * 2) parses RSS feed by using regular expressions. It is not nice, but it is working very well; especially if it is not about directly published news.
 * 3) gets from RSS links and titles; and goes to the relevant pages.
 * 4) parses (again, by using regex) HTML page and gets content.
 * 5) searches if there is the article under the same name.
 * 6) if article doesn't exist, it creates it and adds it in its control list; control list for October 2009 is: User:Millbot-SETimes/chronology/October-2009
 * 7) if it exists:
 * 8) it tests does that page exists inside of the current month control page
 * 9) if it exists, bot does nothing
 * 10) if it doesn't exist, bot creates page under the name like this one: User:Millbot-SETimes/existing pages/2009-10-03 19:28/Kosovo Albanians stand trial in Belgrade

So, please, add your comments here. I'll work on fixing the form during next couple of days, according to your wishes. After that en.wn will have SETimes bot. And after SETimes bot I'll work on VOA bot. --millosh (talk) 20:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Note that bot's code is not so nice and I don't prefer to publish it yet. However, I'll give the code to whoever wants to have that bot from Wikinews contributors. --millosh (talk) 20:07, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

 * Interesting idea. One question - is there any way to get the bot only to pick up stories from the last two or so days? I noticed that a few of the "sample" articles it's created are several days old and qualify as stale, and are unlikely to be published. Also, it'd be nice if the bot could learn to make use of the date and haveyoursay templates that should appear by default in every article. Tempodivalse [talk]  20:48, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

After the first iteration, bot won't import older news. So, when bot starts with importing, it will import all recent news from RSS feed and after that it will have information that those articles were added. As it is just one-time work per one feed, I think that it is reasonable not to code that exception. However, if you think that it is necessary, I'll code it. --millosh (talk) 05:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

I already added date yesterday inside of the code. Where do you want to see haveyoursay? Please, make it inside of one of the articles (and, please, don't delete all of them because we need one for making the final version of bot code). --millosh (talk) 05:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Also, I want to say that whenever I am making a deal with some news agency or so, I am doing so for content in all available languages. Beta News Agency has daily news in English and we may import all of them (I'd have to parse their RSS more, because, unlike with news in Serbian, news in English have a couple of news inside of one entity). --millosh (talk) 05:18, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Turned on
After last checks and some algorithm changes, as it had got autoconfirmed status, I've turned on Millbot-SETimes. It reads RSS feed every hour +14 minutes and if there are news, it puts the article here. AFAIK, there are a couple of news per week per country at SETimes, so it won't be noisy. Please, contact me at my talk page for all suggestions or problems related to the bot up to the time when general page for my content bots will be created. --millosh (talk) 10:56, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I am continuing now to work on VoA bot. --millosh (talk) 10:56, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * For that, I think a new project namespace page will be needed. Eg Automatically imported news/WN:IMPORTED.
 * I'd structure that with some sub-pages, eg Automatically imported news/SETimes. Then the sub-pages can be included in the main page, and the bot's user page. That's then a 'this bot takes from source X' 'this might be the problems with source X'. So, cited quotes from press watchdog organisations &c.
 * As Millosh will know, I'm busy with other things at the moment. So, while I'd like to comment on what other people think about this idea, or do as a way of implementing it, I won't be. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:50, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Meetup articles
How about writing news articles on Wikipedia meetups?-- Saqib Qayyum   talk 07:35, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * As a Wikimedia bureaucrat, I would really like to see such articles :) Do you want to organize it (or you want to write just about your meetups)? Wikimedian meetups are all over the world and it would be very interesting to ask all communities to write something about their meetings. And I think that Wikinews is a good place for that. --millosh (talk) 02:54, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, what do others think about publishing Wikizine at Wikinews? --millosh (talk) 02:54, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * There's been some talk on copying Wikizine to Wikinews a whiles ago, and IIRC general consensus was that it isn't newsworthy enough to be publishable here - there's even an article cleanup tag named wikizine. My personal opinion is that most wikizine material is not newsworthy enough and doesn't appeal to a broad enough audience to be suitable for Wikinews. I'm not so sure about wikimedia meetup reports though. Tempodivalse [talk]  03:02, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Few pieces. #1 - I was trying to import Wikizine to Wikinews. It didn't go so well.  #2 - Wikipedia Meetups, I highly doubt a standard meetup would be of interest.   Now if it was something like "Wikipedia takes New York" where they do all sorts of wonderful things and are generally useful people, than maybe.
 * This really brings up a more pressing point, why are we discriminating against WMF related news on the grounds of "Notability" (Because no one ever cites any other reason). People say that the news doesn't appeal to a "Broad enough audience" (To steal tempo).  There are 10 million accounts on enwp, granted not all of them active, but lets take that number.  If even 1% of those accounts care about the news of the WMF, that is more than 3 times the population of Pleasant Hill, California which was featured a while back in "Explosion in Bay Area, California suburb damages cigarette store".  We've said on numerous occasions, and have accepted, local news.  Wikizine is essentially local news, except with a broader reach. I know we do WMF related stories, but take a look at "U.K. National Portrait Gallery threatens U.S. citizen with legal action over Wikimedia images".  It was a great article no doubt about that, but we could have started something much sooner, or had multiple articles on the topic, BUT, and I remember this very specifically, it was said that we _will not_ cover it until it gets major media coverage.  We could have had the jump on everyone else, but instead we brought up the rear of the pack....  I guess I just don't get the mentality of shooting ourselves in the foot over WMF related stories.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 03:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Not just that. Wikinews may become the leading source of information related to the Wikimedia and surrounding movements. But, it has to start with something. Wikimedia-related stories seem like a perfect starting point. Also, Wikimedia community needs its own news agency. I am frustrated a lot because there are a number of internal information initiatives (Wikipedia Weekly, Wikivoices, Wikipedia Signpost, Wikizine, Planet Wikimedia -- just to mention those in English), without any aggregator. --millosh (talk) 07:23, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Here is one example from sr.wn. We are developing now territory-based portals, like sr:Hrvatska (Croatia) is. We have enough news for a lot of portals, but we don't have enough of contributors to take care about those portals. A couple of weeks ago I realized that we have one contributor from Kragujevac. It is, if I remember well, fourth city by size in Serbia (sixth or so if Kosovo is counted inside of Serbia). We have enough of news from Kragujevac and he is willing to make a portal about Kragujevac. It is the city with ~100.000 inhabitants. This is the size of the community of active Wikimedians. And if it is just the first step into free knowledge/software/culture area, it may be treated as the beginning of covering virtual area of a couple of millions of inhabitants. --millosh (talk) 07:23, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * So, why don't we make "Wikimedia portal"? It is much more interesting for worldwide population than any local news. And we have a lot of potential contributors. (As well as it would help a lot to Wikimedia community and thus to Wikinews, too.) --millosh (talk) 07:23, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * One more comment related to Wikizine: Since a couple of months ago, Wikinews is licensed under CC-BY 2.5, so it is compatible with Wikinews. --millosh (talk) 07:27, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I just started this, but no idea if get published soon! Saqib Qayyum   talk 08:06, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

 * 1) I have little faith (sorry) in this user's contributions being credible; prior to dancing-with-renames he's played with a variety of sockpuppets, has a block history, and has outright lied about where he is in the world.
 * 2) Is Wikinews a blog, or a best-effort to be a credible source of news? Apart from major 'meetups' such as Wikimania I see zero real justification for this to go on the front page - or even be covered anywhere else. Every single time Wikinews does any reporting on other WMF issues, I get complaints we focus too much on that, or are actively engaged in navel-gazing. As a consequence, I try to consider such reporting as a more-widely known organisation such as the BBC would; they never report on their front page about meetups or anything like that.
 * 3) If there is a desire to promote such things, then by all means use the various social networking services we work with; create a periodical newsletter in the project namespace and post links to that. It is, quite frankly, useless to do a post-mortem report on meetups if we don't announce them sufficiently far in advance to allow people a chance to attend. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:18, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not the one you talking about. Regarding meetup articles, as I stated earlier it might not be of good interest for general audience but surely for Wikimedia community however it is okay if we move it to Wikizine rather than here. but here I must say that there should something in Wikinews covering briefly on such happenings, similar to Wikipedia signpost. <font style="color:#0000FF">Saqib Qayyum  <font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> talk 16:05, 15 October 2009 (UTC) 16:04, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia signpost is a wholly internal publication. And you are the user I'm talking about, do I need to dig the checkuser logs out of emails and the IRC logs to show you lying about being hopping around the Middle East while still in Pakistan? --Brian McNeil / talk 16:20, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, offcourse you've to confirm if you think I'm the one you talking about. If you're sure with yourself then check that with every possible manner and then come back to me. The same problem I'm facing sometimes whilst on IRC rooms and now I want to remove those blackspots and doubts on me. If you'll be right, I shall have nothing to do but leaving Wikinews. I'll be waiting to hearing from you soon. Thank you! <font style="color:#0000FF">Saqib Qayyum  <font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#0000fa;"> talk 16:35, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You know full well I cannot publicly divulge checkuser logs. I can confirm that you have on repeated occasions in the past alternated between reasonably good-faith edits while logged in, and then abusive edits or self-congratulatory remarks while logged out. No, I won't tell you how to evade being caught; and, if needed, you can challenge another checkuser to disprove my assertions. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:44, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Citation
Is there a way to cite a book? I can only find URL cites. Marx01 (talk) 00:24, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The closest we have to that would be cite journal; however, we generally don't cite books, so there's no real "book citation" template. <font face="Georgia">Tempodivalse <font face="Georgia">[talk]  00:28, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The issue I'm having is that I want to use a textbook for getting facts about things not addressed in other sources. I have not found a more reliable source so far. Thank you for your reply and I'll hunker down and finds me some sources! Marx01 (talk) 00:34, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
 * apasource, papersource. As well. However they are generally discouraged if the information is readily available online, as they are hard to check. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:03, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Starting an article - FAIL
Up-front on the main page are two links where a newcomer would expect to find an opportunity to start an article. The newsroom, and the Report Breaking News link in the header. Only the Newsroom has a edit form to enter an article title and start a new page, and that is 3-4 screenloads down - not exactly obvious. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:26, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. It has to be fixed. Srin  ivas  10:23, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The whole newsroom needs a complete overhaul with a serious focus on news production. I'll have a go at putting together a basic/primitive in my userspace. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:31, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

 * I have made the template at the top of the Newsroom a sub-page (see here). I would welcome feedback on that (apart from Shaka's mega-dislike in IRC). I want to see all the sort of links like this that are above the crease or in the main page header making a significant effort to try and get people to become involved and edit things. I started this section because the two most obvious links someone would click on from the main page to do this don't have an article creation box up-front and in your face. Ideas? Comments? --Brian McNeil / talk 17:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Article distribution list
I have an intention (and interest) of updating this though the page is marked for archival purposes? Is there anyone who can nod the approval for me to update it? Ali Rana (talk) 04:10, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Have fun. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 04:20, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * We always need more Africa stuff. Cirt (talk) 04:29, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, update if if you want. I think it would be a useful page. <font face="Georgia">Tempodivalse <font face="Georgia">[talk]  13:30, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


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Comments:6-year-old boy in Colorado found alive, unhurt after runaway balloon allegedly carried him away

Wow that all seems abit unbelievable to me. there is no actual proof he was ever in the balloon and will probably be found hiding somewher to avoid getting into trouble.
 * Hit the nail on the head. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:42, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

thats what happens
when parents are freaks and keep their friggin ufo's laying around in their backyard —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.236.146.178 (talk) 22:49, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

After watching the video of the dad answering questions to the media, I have no doubt in my mind that this was a publicity stunt to sell his balloon. He spent more time talking about his "experimental balloon in early stages of design" than the relief of his son being safe. Just think of the cost for the rescue attempt ie: National Guard, airlines redirecting air traffic, and the ground support. All for free publicity. This should be fraud on the father, a criminal offense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.121.220.224 (talk) 00:37, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Effective search
It seems Holmsean to conduct a search based on the possibility that the kid might not have been in the balloon at all. From the article, it sounds like the police led an effective search. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.250.126 (talk) 02:06, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

wackynews
Can't this be in the wackynews section?--138.88.41.91 (talk) 03:34, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

LOL
I was watching this on the news as it kept updating. Haven't laughed this hard in a while 124.188.171.7 (talk) 07:06, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "Ya i heard this story but a we..."
Ya i heard this story but a week later it was said to be a frued —12.172.189.215 (talk) 07:43, 22 May 2010 (UTC)


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At least 40 dead after string of attacks in Pakistan

October 16, 2009

Pakistani officials have said that five attacks on government sites across the country have killed at least forty people. The latest attack occurred late on Thursday at a government residential area in Peshawar. Officials said they suspect Taliban militants for being responsible for the attacks.

Authorities said that the situation in the eastern city of Lahore was under control, following separate attacks on the country's Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) and two police training centers.

Gunmen with at least one suicide jacket stormed the FIA building at mid-morning. The FIA is an agency responsible for investigating matters relating to terrorism and immigration. Early last year, the building was the target of a suicide truck bomb that killed more than 20 people.

"Reportedly, four men attacked the FIA building and initial reports are that two of them have been killed," said the provincial interior secretary, Nadeem Hassan Asif Punjab.

Soon after the assault on the FIA began, gunmen targeted two police training centers on the outskirts of Lahore. In the suburb of Manawa, gunmen targeted a center that militants attacked earlier this year. In the other incident, attackers with suicide jackets in Bedian climbed over a wall to gain access to the Elite Force Training Center. It took several hours before security forces were able to gain control of all the sites.

The attacks in Pakistan's east took place hours after a suicide car bomber targeted a police station at a garrison town about an hour's drive from the northwestern city of Peshawar.

Speaking to local media, Pakistani Interior Minister Rehman Malik said intelligence agencies had expected attacks on security sites in the country and that authorities will remain on high-alert. He said the recent violence shows the militants want to bring the frontlines from Pakistan's violent northwest to Punjab province.

On Saturday, militants with ties to Punjab, as well as the South Waziristan tribal region, assaulted the Pakistani army's headquarters in Rawalpindi.

Pakistani intelligence officials believe the attacks are a reaction to the military's raids on South Waziristan. The military is expected to launch a full-scale assault on Taliban militants in the region bordering Afghanistan.


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China sentences six more to death over riots

October 16, 2009

China has sentenced six more people to death for murders committed during July riots in far northwestern Xinjiang region. This brings the number of people facing the death penalty for their involvement in the riots to nine.

China saw its worst ethnic violence in decades, when riots erupted in Xinjiang's regional capital, Urumqi, in July. Muslim Uighurs attacked members of China's dominant Han ethnic group. The Han Chinese retaliated, two days later, by attacking Uighurs. Officials say nearly 200 people were killed in the riots.

The Chinese media has said the Urumqi court gave three of the six condemned men two-year reprieves — a sentence that is often commuted to life in prison.

Five of the death sentences went to Uighurs, who were convicted of beating people to death during the initial riots on July 5. The official Xinhua news agency says another man, who appears to be Han Chinese based on his name, was convicted of beating a Uighur man to death during vigilante attacks, two days later.

An employee at the Xinjiang government's news center, who did not give her name, said that the sentencing was not over. She said the official reports Thursday only cover the verdict for cases that were decided that day. She added that there will still be verdicts for other cases, but gave no details as to how many cases remain to be tried, how serious they are or when the verdicts would be reached.

On Monday, six Uighur defendants were sentenced to death by the same court. Those sentences were the first to be handed down in the trials of scores of suspects arrested during and after the riots.

Last week, a Chinese court in Guangdong province sentenced one man to death and another to life in prison for their part in a toy factory brawl in June. Two ethnic Uighurs were killed in that violence, which sparked the rioting in Xinjiang.

The Turkic-speaking Uighurs have long complained of discrimination by the Han and say the government severely restricts their Muslim religious practices. The Chinese government says there is no discrimination and that Uighurs, like other ethnic minority groups, receive benefits the Han majority does not.


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Obama signs Pakistan aid bill worth US$7.5 billion

October 15, 2009 US president Barack Obama signed a bill that will give Pakistan US$7.5 billion worth of nonmilitary aid into law on Thursday.

The bill was signed by the president at the White House. The White House spokesman, Robert Gibbs, said that the law demonstrated the "tangible manifestation of broad support for Pakistan in the US."

The plan will provide money for projects to help fund energy generation, roads, schools, and water resource management in Pakistan, among other things. Congress, however, will still need to allot the money indicated in the bill, and the bill will need to be renewed annually.

Some members of the Pakistani parliament and military said that they felt some of the rules laid out in the plan might result in a breach of sovereignty. However, the Pakistani foreign minister, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, said he believed that the US wasn't trying to take control over his country's internal politics.


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This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikinews. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles will be reverted quickly. Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 00:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Huh? My only edit is this one correcting a misspelling of Falcon Heene's name.  See any of the many published news stories (,, , , for example) to verify the spelling. TJRC (talk) 00:20, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * ShakataGaNai must have made a mistake, that was an entirely legitimate edit and certainly not vandalism. Sorry. Tempodivalse [talk]  00:36, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
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NY Sen. Monserrate found guilty of misdemeanor assault

October 16, 2009

New York State Senator Hiram Monserrate was found guilty of misdemeanor assault Thursday, in the criminal trial involving an alleged attack on his girlfriend Karla Giraldo. Monserrate will face sentencing on the misdemeanor assault conviction on December 4.

Monserrate had also faced charges of felony assault, but he was not convicted of these charges. The misdemeanor assault conviction means Monserrate is guilty of "recklessly causing physical injury" to Giraldo. Monserrate could be sentenced to one year in jail for the misdemeanor assault conviction.

The prosecution had asserted that when Monserrate discovered that his girlfriend had the business card of another man, he chose to strike out at her. Monserrate entered a plea of not guilty to charges he sliced his girlfriend's face with broken glass during a conflict at their apartment on December 19, 2008. The defense team denied that the injury to the woman by Monserrate was intentional, instead claiming that the incident was "an accident" and the result of Monserrate tripping while bringing Giraldo a glass of water.

A police detective that first investigated the crime scene testified about the bloody evidence discovered at Monserrate's apartment, including broken glass, blood, towels covered in blood, and a ripped women's t-shirt. Forensic biologist Ewilina Badja said that the majority of the blood found at the crime scene had originated from one woman. Prosecutors asserted that this woman is Giraldo, who was treated for injuries surrounding her left eye that took approximately 40 stitches to remedy. Badja identified blood on a male green shirt found in the bathroom sink as that of Monserrate.

An emergency physician that had treated Giraldo stated in court that Monserrate's girlfriend asserted to her that her injuries were not the result of an accident. Though the defense has argued that Giraldo, who is from Ecuador, may have been difficult to understand – the physician stated she conversed with Monserrate's girlfriend in both Spanish and in English.

Queens Supreme Court Justice William Erlbaum judged the case without a jury, as Monserrate waived his right for a trial before his peers. The group National Organization for Women had requested that the judge rule Monserrate should be given "the maximum sentence allowable by law". If he had been convicted of a felony, Democrat Sen. Monserrate could have automatically lost his New York State Senate seat. Monserrate did not testify during the criminal trial against him.

WXXI reported that Patricia Salkin of the Government Law Center at Albany Law School, said state Senators may be faced with political issues if they do not do something about Monserrate's continued presence as a Senator. Salkin stated that the issue was: "Whether or not the public is going to stand for somebody who has been convicted of a criminal act, and act of domestic violence in this case, to be allowed to continue." According to WXXI, Senate rules do not state that a misdemeanor conviction means a politician must be removed from office, it is within the power of the New York Senate to initiate procedures to oust a sitting Senator. WXXI reported that leaders within the Democratic party in the New York Senate were debating whether to being proceedings to remove Monserrate from his seat. WNYC reported that the Senators are deciding whether or not to initiate disciplinary proceedings against Monserrate.

The New York Daily News reported that Monserrate gave a statement outside the courthouse after the ruling, and continued to describe the injury to Giraldo's face as a "terrible accident". He referred to Giraldo as ""a person who I love". Monserrate stated that: "I have to live with that forever. There are no winners here today." Monserrate's attorney, Joseph Tacopina, believed that his client would not serve any jail time. "On a reckless misdemeanor, first offense, he won't go to jail," said Tacopina.

New York City Council member Eric Gioia was the first Democratic politician to publicly request that Monserrate resign from his post as a member of the New York State Senate. Gioia released a statement which said: "There is no room in government or in the Democratic Party for people who commit such heinous crimes against women. Hiram Monserrate must be swiftly removed from office. Elected officials should rightfully be held to a higher standard, and New Yorkers deserve better representation than a convicted perpetrator of domestic violence." Gioia stated that "the circumstances revealed in the trial ... truly shock the conscience."

Monserrate is a former New York City police officer. Prior to becoming a member of the New York State Senate, he was a city councilman. He became a member of the New York State Senate weeks after the alleged conflict with Giraldo, and was made chair of the committee overseeing consumer affairs. Along with Democrat Pedro Espada Jr., Monserrate started a shift in control of the Senate by aligning with the Republican Party. Monserrate is currently allied with the Democrats in the New York Senate, and if he is removed from his seat the ratio of Democrats to Republicans would be 31-30.


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 * The quote was in the New York Daily News source when I read the article, and Google is still showing it as there in the New York Daily News, in a search for the quote. Very odd. Cirt (talk) 02:33, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

I wonder
I wonder what what differs between assault and assault, other than one has a felony prefix? Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:43, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you mean exactly, could you clarify? Cirt (talk) 23:20, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The article says he was cleared of one kind of assault and convicted of another. In my country, assault is the charge and varients tend to be obvious (e.g. 'assault to within danger of life'). What's the difference between these two alternate charges against him? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 06:44, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Felony assault conviction would have meant automatic expulsion from his political office. Misdemeanor assault conviction means he could conceivably be sentenced to even up to a year in jail, and still keep his political position. Cirt (talk) 07:21, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I understand the penalties. They are written right there in the article. Now I'd like to know what constitutes on offence and what constitutes the other. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:13, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd guess the commonest distinction might be that misdemeanour could include throwing a few punches in a bar brawl. Felony more along the lines of 'intent to injure'. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:20, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


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IBEX satellite releases first all sky map

October 18, 2009 NASA's IBEX (or Interstellar Boundary Explorer) satellite, released into orbit last October, has provided the data for the first "all sky map" showing the boundary between the Solar System and Interstellar Space. IBEX mapped the sky using two sensors, gathering information about the particle structure within the Milky Way. This map should help researchers better understand relationships between the Sun and our Galaxy.

The particles which IBEX looks for are energetic neutral atoms, atoms with a neutral charge that release large amounts of energy in most directions. The best place to find these particles is in the Sun's Heliosphere, where forces from outside our solar system interact with the Sun's magnetic field, causing these particles to become highly energetic. Two sensors on IBEX detect and catalog this. After six months of repeating this cycle over the entire night sky, IBEX acquired enough data to create the all sky map. This map goes beyond the capacities of the Voyager missions, giving an insight into the Sun's interaction with the rest of the galaxy. As Cosmic rays approach the solar system, the heliosphere prevents them from crossing into the heart of the solar system, thereby effectively stopping these harmful rays from reaching Earth. This new energy is released from electrically neutral atoms, and when scientists look at the energy given off by these atoms they have a general view of what energy is coming from what area.

Knowing the place in the galaxy where certain rays come from help scientists understand the way our galaxy functions, from star positioning to globular clusters. "For the first time, we're sticking our heads out of the sun's atmosphere and beginning to really understand our place in the galaxy," said David J. Comas of NASA.


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Talk:Son of Indian hospital CEO commits suicide by jumping out of window

Credit: The title of this page was proposed by AlexandrDmitri.

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The article's last two sources look unverifiable but have been published by Times of India newsprint. Therefore, they are verifiable. Also, GT hospital is not a short form but it is the actual name of the hospital and does not have any kind of full form. Srin ivas  06:00, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

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 * [..]He jumped from the building in front of her mother and she was shocked to see her son dying before her. Miten didn't leave a suicide note.

 * At 21:00 the police received a call from the residents of the building saying that Miten had committed suicide in Maker Towers, Colaba. The police arrived there and took him to GT hospital but was declared dead on arrival.

--AlexandrDmitri (talk) 11:31, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The autopsy report of GT hospital stated that severe head injuries were the reason for his death. His body was then moved to Lilavati Hospital.
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The constitucioncitas (Senator) they have to give the best examples to the society, they are them those that believe the law, any crime that makes the weight of the law relapses immediately, The partners also had to denounce it if being to it was it is either participating in form insinuation. This voting would be declared null if you ends up checking its participation


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Man charged with assaulting British singer Leona Lewis

October 16, 2009 A man has been arrested and charged after the assault of British singer Leona Lewis, which occurred on Wednesday. The attacker turned out to be 29-year-old Peter Kowalczyk, who suffers from a health condition called anaemia, which causes a reduction from the normal number of red blood cells. The condition also causes a decrease in oxygen-binding ability. His parents said that it "affects his state of mind". He had also been suffering from a series of psychological problems, of which he was getting music therapy for from the National Health Service (NHS).

It was thought that he attacked Leona Lewis out of envy because she had won the third series of The X Factor UK, whereas he was turned down from the show, according to British tabloid The Sun. On Wednesday, Leona was signing copies of her autobiography "Dreams" for attending fans in a Waterstone's book specialist store in the Piccadilly region of London, England. Kowalczyk was believed to be waiting for five hours to get an autobiography signing. When he did attack Lewis, he was immediately wrestled to the ground by security guards at the scene, while Leona was escorted away. The attack left a large bruise on her head.

Peter has been arrested and charged with assault. He was placed into a psychiatric hospital and sectioned under the Mental Health Act 2007 on Thursday. As a result of this incident, Leona Lewis has cancelled a trip to Germany, where she would have signed more copies of her autobiography. The 24-year-old singer is now being cared for in her East London home by Jo and Maria, her parents, and is also being comforted by Lou Al-Chaama, her boyfriend. It has been reported that Kowalczyk is due to appear in a court in late October 2009.


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Thanks for your efforts with my news story. It is very much appreciated.--Thegiantrodent (talk) 13:45, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

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1) Talk Planet Earth and 2) Talk Crust (geological)
Dear Sir

Being completely new I'm a bit shy to start editing in articles. Reading the articles about both subjects I found some inconsistencies.

1. If the temperature at the solid central core is considered to be some 7,000 degrees Celsius, then the material there is well above its critical point and therefor not solid but gas. Of course it could still be gas, but behaving like being solid, or maybe our gas laws are no longer applicable at the immense pressure there, but then the material just outside the central core is still gas and behaves like gas.

2. Extrapolating the temperature in the crust downward to the underside of the crust, I come to a temperature well above the critical points of carbon-dioxide, water, sulpher, nitrogen and many other materials. Therefor the layer under the crust has to be gas and the explosive eruptions like Krakatoa or the pyroclastic blowouts like the one that covered Pompeii, prove that it is indeed gas.

3. Extrapolating the temperature farther downwards to the edge of the central core I come to temperatures well above one million degrees. Which implies that the interior of the Earth is completely gas. Gas, being 3 to 6 times heavier than water. That gas is not moving around fast and freely like the hot air and smoke above a campfire.

Would you please guide me a bit how to have a friendly talk with those who wrote the articles?

I know that my findings are a bit unbelievable, but I'm working on this field since summer 1944 and I do have a Master degree on energy supply, flow, heat transfer, thermodynamics, energy conversions and related subjects.

Sincerely yours.

Jan de Bouwer

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Wikinews Writing contest 2013 is here. :) Please sign up to participate?
We've created the Writing contest 2013, which will start on April 1 and end on June 1. It is modeled on the successful 2010 contest. It would be a really great time for you, as an inactive Wikinews accredited reporter, to renew your credentials by doing some original reporting or conducting interviews. People should be around to interview to prevent a backlog, and several reviewers have access to scoop to make it easier to review any original reporting you do. If you are interested in signing up, please do so on Writing contest 2013/entrants. There is at least one prize on offer for the winner along with the opportunity to earn some barn stars as a way of thanking you for your participation. :D --LauraHale (talk) 10:25, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

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Baby survives after stroller hit by train in Melbourne, Australia

October 17, 2009 A 6-month-old child is alive, having only received minor injuries, after the stroller it was riding in was run over by a commuter train in Melbourne, Australia. The entire incident was recorded by security cameras at Ashburton railway station, where the incident occurred.

Security video footage shows the mother tending to her baby who was in a stroller. She then moves the stroller a safer distance from the tracks. After letting go of the stroller for a second, it rolled towards the tracks and fell off the platform, being struck and dragged nearly 30 meters by the arriving train. Police say the brakes on the stroller were not applied.

The baby only received a minor cut to the head, and had already been rescued before authorities arrived on scene. Mother and baby were taken to Royal Children's Hospital and released shortly thereafter. At a press conference following the incident, Michael Ferweda, a police spokesperson called it a "miracle" that no one was injured and that the mother was not at fault. No charges are going to be filed. "It was a lucky escape and a chance for commuters to think about heeding warnings to be more careful around platforms," he added. The name of the baby and mother have not been released.

Jon Wright, one of the responding paramedics who treated the baby said, "Fortunately the train was slowing as it pulled into the station. The baby received a bump to his head and was distressed when we arrived. Luckily he was strapped into his pram at the time, which probably saved his life."


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I'd like to let you know that here at the English Wikinews, we only accept English language news. You've recently made contributions that don't qualify as news. We appreciate your contributions, but we cannot accept the edits you've made, so they have been reverted or deleted.

In the future, if you'd like to submit news, we are more than happy to have your help! Just make sure to check out this article, which talks about what Wikinews is not.

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World Wrestling Entertainment heir Shane McMahon resigns from the company

October 16, 2009

Predicted heir to World Wrestling Entertainment Shane McMahon has announced he will leave the company on January 1, 2010. McMahon is the son of current owner Vincent K. McMahon and the current Executive Vice President of Global Media for the company. With the departure of Shane, it will be the first time that a male heir will not take over the company when Vince retires.

Shane announced his resignation on WWE.com earlier today saying, "It is with great sadness that I announce my resignation from the WWE, effective January 1, 2010." He mentioned how he "never even considered a future outside the walls of the WWE." He continued to thank his father and superstars of today and the past. According to Shane, he resigned because it was his "to pursue outside ventures."

World Wrestling Entertainment released an official statement responding to Shane’s announcement. Current owner and Shane’s father Vince McMahon said, "Even though I am personally saddened by Shane’s decision to leave the company, I am proud of the enormous contributions he has made. He will unquestionably bring passion, commitment and extensive business experience to any endeavour he pursues." Shane was the fourth generation to World Wrestling Entertainment. He is the son of Vincent K. McMahon, the grandson of Vincent J. McMahon and the great-grandson of Jess McMahon. He has two sons who are considered the fifth generation.


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Suicide bomber attacks Iraqi mosque; twelve dead

October 16, 2009 Iraqi police have said that a suicide bomber killed at least 11 people in an attack on a mosque in northern Iraq on Friday.

According to officials, at least 70 other people were wounded in the bombing, which took place during Friday prayers at a Sunni mosque in the northern town of Tal Afar. The bomber, who was described as being "tall", stood up while the cleric, Abdul-Satar Hassan, a member of an Iraqi Sunni political party, was giving a sermon. He then opened fire with a firearm.

Several seconds later, he shouted "God is great!", and blew himself up with explosives attached to his person, according to a witness at the mosque.

Tal Afar is located in the Nineveh province, near Mosul. Though Iraq has seen a decline in violence over the past year, attacks in that part of the country have continued.


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What?
What is meant when it says that this will be the first time that a male doesn't inherit a company? I'm sure that there have been others, but this makes it seem like it is a new thing to happen. This makes no sense at all. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)


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Videos
I don't think this story is only available in videos. Yes videos are helpful, but text sources are easier and more reliable. Example: Not everyone has time to watch 3 videos, which could be anywhere from a minute to 10 minutes wrong. This is just my opinion though. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 16:37, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It is a very valid point. Videos are instantly offputting due to unknown duration, load on network connection, high probability of being taken down in the short-term, well-nigh impossible to pin down a quote somewhere in a video. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:42, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Total rewrite
I did a total rewrite of the article. I watched both videos listed, though they are both CNN. Listed both because the CNN direct video does not work for me. Maybe it does for others, or doesn't, but I added a second link to YouTube which is supposedly the same report. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The CNN video works for me. Tempodivalse [talk]  00:43, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

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The name of the mother is released, alright. Her name is Shweta Verma.


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UN rights council endorses Gaza report

October 16, 2009 The United Nations human rights council has voted in favor of endorsing a report made by South African Judge Richard Goldstone that accuses Israel and Hamas of committing war crimes during fighting late last year that left 1,400 Palestinians and 13 Israelis dead. The report was adopted 25 votes to six with eleven abstentions.

The report calls on the UN to make sure that Israel and Hamas conduct thorough investigations into the alleged war crimes. Should either side fail to do so, the report recommends that cases be sent to the International Criminal Court of Justice.

In addition to endorsing the report the rights council, "strongly condemns all policies and measures taken by Israel, the occupying power, including those limiting access of Palestinians to their properties and holy sites". Although it accuses both Hamas and Israel of war crimes the report is mainly critical of actions taken by the Israeli government. Of the 31 chapters in the report, only one is dedicated to discussing crimes by Palestinian fighters.

The report alleges that the Israeli military deliberately targeted civilians, used Palestinians as human shields and destroyed civilian infrastructure during Operation Cast Lead which lasted from December 27, 2008 to January 18 this year.

Israel and the United States responded by claiming that the report ignored Israel's right to self defense from rocket fire. They also warned the report might jeopardize Middle East Peace efforts.

Voting on the report was to be originally delayed until March of next year after considering a request by Mahmoud Abbas leader of the Palestinian Authority which controls the West Bank. Abbas was pressured into the decision to delay the vote by the US' Hillary Clinton; Backlash from the Palestinian community forced him to endorse the report. The incident has caused large scale antagonism against the Palestinian Authority.

The United States, Hungary, Italy, Netherlands, Slovenia, and Ukraine all voted against the report.

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Voting on what
What is actually being voted on simply isn't clear.

Are they voting to accept the report's findings? If so, it should be specified as such. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:45, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think I made it a little more clear now Soapy (talk) 18:09, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

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Bank of America reports losses of over US$2.2 billion

October 16, 2009 The Bank of America Corporation, the second-largest bank in the United States, has announced that it lost US$2.24 billion in the third quarter of this year, mainly due to increases in loan losses. According to the bank, the losses are equal to 26 cents per share, worse than most economic analysts had forecast. In the same period a year earlier, Bank of America had gained $704 million, or fifteen cents per share.

The bank's CEO, Ken Lewis, said in a statement that "[...] credit costs remain high, and that is our major financial challenge going forward. However, we are heartened by early positive signs, such as the leveling of delinquencies among our credit card numbers."

Lewis said that losses from loans would probably continue to increase. In a conference call with analysts, he said that "based on [the] economic scenario, results in the fourth quarter are expected to continue to be challenging as we close the year."


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Botswana holds parliamentary elections

October 17, 2009

Voters in Botswana will head to the polls this Friday to vote in parliamentary elections. The incumbent Democratic Party, in power since 1966, is expected to win the vote.

Some voters left their homes as early as 04.00 local time to be in time for the opening of polling stations two hours later, and voters moved through polling stations at a steady pace throughout the day.

About 700,000 residents are registered to vote. Joseph Gaie, lecturer in political ethics at Botswana University in Gaborone, told the Voice of America news agency that a good turnout had been expected.

"Well a lot of people, elderly people take this as a duty - every five years they have to go and vote," he said. "And then a lot of youth that have just come, this will be the first time that 18-year-olds vote, so they are very excited about it."

Voting had proceeded without incidents or violence at polling stations, officials said. "We have not received any complaints of intimidation from any of the political parties," said the head of the Southern African Development Community observer mission Francisco Madeira.

The two major opposition parties, the Botswana National Front and the Botswana Congress Party, are hoping to do much better this time than in previous elections and have indicated they may cooperate in parliament after the poll.

Botswana is a democracy that has seen consistent economic growth in the 43 years since it won independence from the UK. That growth is largely due to exports from the country's diamond industry, which suffered dramatically in the global economic crisis. The net effect of that has seen an 11.5% contraction of the economy in the year that ended in June. The election results will be known on Saturday.

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Zimbabwe's MDC pulls out of unity government

October 16, 2009 Morgan Tsvangirai, the leader of the Zimbabwean Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) and the country's Prime Minister, has pulled out of the coalition government, accusing Zimbabwean president Robert Mugabe of being "dishonest and unreliable".

Tsvangirai and his MDC party said that they would pull out from the government until outstanding issues in a power-sharing agreement between Tsvangirai and Mugabe were resolved. He made the announcement following a crisis meeting that was called after the MDC treasurer general was indicted on charges of terrorism.

Tsvangirai said that “this party, for now, cannot renege on the people’s mandate. However, it is our right to disengage from a dishonest and unreliable partner."

“In this regard, whilst being in government we shall forthwith disengage from Zanu-PF [Mugabe's party] and in particular from cabinet and the council of ministers until such time as confidence and respect is restored among us,” he said.

The Prime Minister, however, added that the pullout would most likely be only temporary, and that the MDC would still conduct some activities in the parliament. "We are not really pulling out officially," Tsvangirai said.

A spokesman for the Zanu-PF party responded to Tsvangirai's move. “If MDC wants to disengage [...] we don't have a problem with that. We were having problems with MDC, working together. We have been trying but it was not easy,” said spokesman Ephraim Masawi.

The former Information and Publicity minister, Jonathan Moyo, who is a member of the Zanu-PF, accused the MDC of acting "childishly".

The Zimbabwean coalition government was launched eight months ago, after a heavily disputed election that was marred by violence. Tsvangirai obtained a majority of votes in the 2008 presidential elections, but decided to withdraw from a run-off election with Mugabe, claiming that Mugabe had used violence against his supporters. A deal was eventually made, under which Mugabe would retain his post, but Tsvangirai would assume the position of prime minister. Zanu-PF and Mugabe, however, have still been accused of being unwilling to give up their power or to reform.


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I saw the whole episode on S4C on Friday. --Rayboy8 (talk) 19:32, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

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IT is not made by the bbc, but yet it is the longest running show made by the bbc. That kind of confused me. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:16, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
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Crude oil prices reach one-year high

October 17, 2009

Prices for crude oil reached a one-year high on Friday, as increasing industrial production in the United States raised hopes that the economic recession might be easing.

US Crude oil futures gained for the seventh straight day, and has increased by 12.9% since October 7, and is now just above US$78 a barrel. The move came after a report released by the US Federal Reserve indicated a 0.7% rise in factory output.

Brent crude oil was also up, gaining 76 cents to reach $76.99.

Paul Crovo, an oil analyst based in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania for PNC Capital Advisors, said that there were increasing hopes that the economy would rebound. “There continues to be optimism about an economic rebound. Prices have been rising on speculation that this will lead to a tightening of the supply-demand balance going forward,” he said.

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ZANU-PF and Robert Mugabe
Perhaps this article should mention how Robert Mugabe and his party has rigged elections, murdered thousands, raped women, caused massive poverty, and become one of the most tyrannical political entities of the world. -- Poe Joe (talk) 23:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
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6.4 magnitude earthquake hits Indonesia

October 17, 2009

A strong, 6.4 magnitude earthquake stuck Indonesia on Friday, even as recovery efforts continued from the devastating tremors that hit there last month.

The earthquake caused some buildings to sway in the country's capital, Jakarta; however, there were no reports of injuries. According to officials, the earthquake's epicentre was in in the Sunda Strait, off the western coast of the island of Java.

The earthquake wasn't powerful enough to generate a tsunami, according to a Meteorology and Geophysics Agency official, Suhardjono.

On September 30, a powerful magnitude 7.6 earthquake struck Indonesia, causing landslides, destroying buildings, and killing over a thousand people. Cleanup and recovery efforts for that quake are still ongoing. Tremors frequently strike Indonesia and neighbouring vicinities, as it is positioned on an arc of fault lines.

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Wikinews Shorts: October 18, 2009

Family shot dead in South Africa
At least three people, all part of the same family, are dead after their bodies were discovered in their home in Centurion, Gauteng, South Africa. All died as a result of gunshot wounds.

The dead include a mother, who was a police officer for Pretoria, her three-month-old baby, and 12-year-old son. The son managed to survive the incident, but died earlier Saturday while undergoing treatment at a local hospital.

Police say the ex-husband discovered the bodies at around 1:00 p.m. local time. The officer's gun was found next to her body. An investigation is ongoing, but burglary has been ruled out.

Update: It has been confirmed, double murder, suicide.

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Botswana Democratic Party claims victory in elections
Botswana's Democratic Party (BDP) is claiming to be the winner in the nation's elections. Ian Khama is likely to be reelected as leader of the nation and will serve a five year term. This was his first election since he was appointed in April, replacing Festus Mogae.

The BDP needed to win at least 29 out of the 57 seats to choose Khama as the nation's president.

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UK Royal Mail to hire 30,000 more workers
The UK Royal Mail has announced that 30,000 temporary workers are to be recruited. The move comes as the Communication Workers Union plan to have two nationwide strikes over the course of next week. With Christmas also approaching, the amount of mail that the Royal Mail receives will be rapidly increased, and the amount of workers at this time of year that will be recruited is 30,000 - twice as many as there were last year. The Royal Mail had said that 85,000 people had applied for temporary work.

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GOD WAS THERE PROTETING THE BABY. I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES.
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Buffalo, NY firefighter injured while battling blaze

October 17, 2009

At least one firefighter has been injured while battling a blaze on Buffalo, New York's East side early this morning.

The name, extent of his injuries and his condition are not yet known. According to firefighter radio communications, he has been taken to Erie County Medical Center "for evaluation."

The blaze began in an attic, inside an abandoned 2 1/2 story wooden frame house at 189 Townsend in the city's East side at about 11:15 p.m. (EDT) Friday evening. The fire quickly spread out of control and firefighters focused their attention on protecting the neighboring house, also abandoned. The fire was extinguished at about 3:00 a.m., just over four hours after it started. Firefighters say "the cause is under investigation."

This is the second fire in just over 24 hours to strike the city. Early Friday morning, a fire broke out inside another abandoned home on 133 School Street on the city's West side. Fire traveled to the neighboring occupied house causing extensive damage. Firefighters spent nearly an hour trying to put the fire out. No one was injured. Arson is suspected to be the cause of the blaze.


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Have been listening to radio communications since the call first went out at about 11:15 p.m. Friday evening. Frequency: 424.350. Fire fighter was taken in at about 1:10 a.m. Saturday Morning. I started the article as soon as they took him in. As of writing this post, nothing is known about him or who he is. Fire still being fought and it is 1:36 a.m. (EDT). DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 05:36, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
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Politicians call for NY Sen. Monserrate to resign after assault conviction

October 17, 2009

New York State Senator Hiram Monserrate faced public calls for his resignation after he was found guilty Thursday of misdemeanor assault, in the criminal trial involving an alleged attack on his girlfriend Karla Giraldo. Monserrate will face sentencing on the misdemeanor assault conviction on December 4.

The misdemeanor assault conviction means Monserrate is guilty of "recklessly causing physical injury" to Giraldo. Monserrate could be sentenced to one year in jail for the misdemeanor assault conviction.

The prosecution had asserted that when Monserrate discovered that his girlfriend had the business card of another man, he chose to strike out at her. Monserrate entered a plea of not guilty to charges he sliced his girlfriend's face with broken glass during a conflict at their apartment on December 19, 2008. The defense team denied that the injury to the woman by Monserrate was intentional, instead claiming that the incident was "an accident" and the result of Monserrate tripping while bringing Giraldo a glass of water.

Queens Supreme Court Justice William Erlbaum judged the case without a jury, as Monserrate waived his right for a trial before his peers. The group National Organization for Women had requested that the judge rule Monserrate should be given "the maximum sentence allowable by law". If he had been convicted of a felony, Democrat Sen. Monserrate could have automatically lost his New York State Senate seat. Monserrate did not testify during the criminal trial against him.

The New York chapter of the National Organization for Women criticized the decision of the judge for not convicting Monserrate of the felony charge, and urged the Democratic leadership of the New York Senate to remove Monserrate from office. New York state president of the National Organization for Women, Marcia Pappas stated: "They need to expel him. The Democratic leadership needs to send a strong message to the women of New York state that they care about protecting women."

It is within the power of the New York Senate to initiate procedures to oust a sitting Senator. Leaders within the Democratic party in the New York Senate were debating whether to being proceedings to remove Monserrate from his seat. Senators are in the process of deciding whether or not to initiate disciplinary proceedings against Monserrate. John L. Sampson, Democratic Conference leader in the New York Senate, told the Associated Press on Friday that the Senate will review procedures in order to determine what to do with Monserrate. "The leaders of our conference are discussing the potential for further action by the Senate," said Sampson in a statement in AM New York.

The legislative director of the New York Public Interest Research Group, Blair Horner, told AM New York that it would be "unprecedented in modern times" for a sitting New York State Senator to hold office while serving time in jail. "Obviously he can’t vote from jail," he said.

New York City Council member Eric Gioia was the first Democratic politician to publicly request that Monserrate resign from his post as a member of the New York State Senate. Gioia released a statement Thursday which said: "There is no room in government or in the Democratic Party for people who commit such heinous crimes against women. Hiram Monserrate must be swiftly removed from office. Elected officials should rightfully be held to a higher standard, and New Yorkers deserve better representation than a convicted perpetrator of domestic violence." Gioia stated that "the circumstances revealed in the trial ... truly shock the conscience."

On Friday, Democratic New York State Senator Liz Krueger of Manhattan joined the call for Monserrate to resign. "The justice system has determined that Mr. Monserrate has violated our laws and is guilty of a very disturbing and violent crime against a woman. Domestic violence is domestic violence, guilt is guilt. I believe Hiram Monserrate should not remain in the Senate," said Senator Krueger. According to NY1 News, Senator Krueger was the first woman politician to call for Monserrate's resignation. Senator Krueger stated: "I don't believe being an elected official is a right. It is an honor and a privilege I believe I should be held to higher standards because I am an elected official and I believe my colleagues in the legislature should also be held to a higher standard. And so for me, this is simple: Mr. Monserrate, it's time to resign."

Senator Krueger was later joined by female New York State Senator, Democrat Suzi Oppenheimer. Senator Oppenheimer released a statement which said: I am strong believer in our judicial system, and the Court has now spoken. Senator Monserrate has been convicted of assaulting his partner. Domestic violence has no place in civilized society. I have spent my life fighting for the rights of abused women, which have been the subject of this trial."

Democratic New York State Senator Brian Foley also called for Monserrate to resign. State Senator Foley released a statement saying: "If Sen. Monserrate chooses not to resign, I will use my position as Senator to introduce a measure for his expulsion/impeachment from the Senate. I will do so, without regard to party affiliation, because of the conduct Sen. Monserrate has exhibited. And I will do so to send a clear message to every individual in New York State: Violence against women will not be acceptable regardless of your position in society. For the sake of the New York State Senate, I sincerely hope Sen. Monserrate will heed my call and resign immediately. The consequence of his refusal to do so will be a forced expulsion from the Senate."

David Valesky, another Democratic New York State Senator, joined the calls by his fellow State Senators Liz Krueger and Brian Foley in calling for Monserrate's resignation. State Senator Valesky said he would "work with other members of the Senate" in order to get Monserrate removed from his political office. The Post-Standard reported that Senator Valesky released a statement saying he was "disgusted" by Monserrate's "deplorable" behavior. Senator Valesky said in his statement: "It is my hope that Mr. Monserrate will do the right thing for this body and for the people of this state and resign his post immediately. If he chooses not to do so, I will work with other members of the Senate to seek his removal. We are currently reviewing the internal options for such removal, and I am confident we will act expeditiously to end this matter."

Democratic New York State Senator Neil Breslin said that Monserrate remaining in his political office would negatively impact the New York State Senate to earn the trust of the public. "We, the Senate, have been through so much this past year. It is time for us to take the steps necessary to earn back the public's trust. Hiram Monserrate remaining a member of the Senate contradicts this effort," said Senator Breslin.

Darrel Aubertine, a fellow Democratic New York State Senate member, also called for Monserrate's resignation. Senator Aubertine released a statement saying that if Monserrate does not resign, the New York State Senate "must take appropriate action immediately". Senator Aubertine said that "For the good of New York State and the Senate, he should step down."

Brooklyn-based New York State Senator Martin Golden, a Republican, told the New York Daily News he agreed with the calls for Monserrate to be removed from office. "As far as I'm concerned, (expletive) him; he should be gone. He should not be sitting in that Senate, and if someone thinks otherwise, I'd like some of the crack they're smoking," said Senator Golden.

Joseph Crowley, a United States Congressman and chairman of the Democratic party in Queens, New York, said that Monserrate should resign. The New York Times noted that the lack of support by Representative Crowley was significant, as Crowley had previously helped arrange for Monserrate to attain his political office as State Senator in the first place.

Crowley said that if Monserrate did not resign, he would support another individual to challenge Monserrate in the next year's Democratic primary for his office. "I think there is a tremendous amount of emphasis, and rightly so, that this was domestic violence. I don’t think it’s something our party wants to be associated with, and it’s not representative of the constituency which elected him," said Representative Crowley.

Democratic New York State Assembly member Patricia Eddington said of Monserrate's acquittal on the more serious felony assault charge: "It’s just another example of how abuse of women is condoned and accepted." Assembly member Eddington stated: "I don’t think he should be permitted to be a senator."

Monserrate is a former New York City police officer. Prior to becoming a member of the New York State Senate, he was a city councilman. He became a member of the New York State Senate weeks after the alleged conflict with Giraldo, and was made chair of the committee overseeing consumer affairs. Along with Democrat Pedro Espada Jr., Monserrate started a shift in control of the Senate by aligning with the Republican Party. Monserrate is currently allied with the Democrats in the New York Senate, and if he is removed from his seat the ratio of Democrats to Republicans would be 31-30.


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Honestly, the man shouldn't be allowed to resign. He was convicted of assault; he should be booted out of the NY Senate. However, the days of statesmen and politicians with spines are long past... --CyberStormAlpha (talk) 07:44, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


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International pressure mounts on Guinean military junta to withdraw from elections

October 17, 2009

International pressure is mounting on Guinea's military junta to withdraw from the country's planned elections by the International Criminal Court, the United Nations, and the European Union.

The Hague court announced in a statement on Wednesday that it is deciding whether the events of September 28 amount to crimes against humanity, when people died at a sports stadium in the capital Conakry. Rights groups say soldiers shot 157 people, with thousands injured and women raped, claims denied by Guinea's rulers. The United Nations is also investigating these claims separately.

Also on Wednesday, Karel de Gucht, the EU's development chief added to calls for a trial citing "an act of brutality never seen before".

African leaders called for the military junta to pull out of the upcoming elections in three months, ahead of the ultimatum from the African Union today. Captain Moussa Dadis Camara, the country's leader, had promised not to take part in the January presidential elections when he took power, but has since said that he may run, causing many people to protest.

However, a spokesman for the Guinean junta dismissed reports of increasing tensions. "Guinea is doing well, we experience more external than internal pressure," Idrissa Cherif said in a televised broadcast in Burkina Faso.

It is also likely that sanctions will be applied, as hinted by Nigeria, which currently holds the chairmanship of the Economic Community of West African States.


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Thanks for being bold enough to give doing a 'wikinews shorts' piece a go. But, please try to find another story you can add to it. If you give me a shout when there are two or three stories in it I'll do my best to review and publish it. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:08, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

awesome, will try to do some more :-) Mass09 (talk) 19:26, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

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i requested a story on a moose being shot in achorage alaska at aau. You up for working on any of this please feel free and do so. Thanks. 71grosnog23 (talk) 22:53, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
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