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Israel continues settlement expansion

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Israel has announced two new housing projects in East Jerusalem and the West Bank, continuing to expand its settlements. Officials have stated that a bill to be approved by parliament this week, would set aside $25 million for the expansion of development projects in Har Homa and Maale Adumim. The bill would create 500 apartments in the Har Homa area and another 240 in Maale Adumim.

Last month, both Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert signed a statement of "joint understanding" at the 2007 Annapolis Conference in Maryland. This signalled the first peace agreement between the two parties in more than seven years.

However, many fear that settlement expansions will cause tension amid new peace agreements.

Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said, "This is a totally destructive policy. Every day we hear a new settlement expansion plan - this cannot be tolerated."

However, Rafi Eitan, Israeli Minister for Jerusalem Affairs offered a different stance.

"Har Homa is an integral part of Jerusalem and Israel will not stop building there. It is Israel's duty to provide its citizens with a place to live." Earlier this month, United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice took a critical stance on the passage of another bill outlining the construction of 307 apartment units in Har Homa, saying that the expansion would "not help build confidence for peace talks."

Israel annexed East Jerusalem after the 1967 Six-Day War.

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Benazir Bhutto killed in suicide attack

December 27, 2007 Former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto has been killed in a suicide attack as she was leaving a political rally in the city of Rawalpindi. At least 21 people died in the attack, local reports say. The attack has been condemned internationally. Earlier in October, a suicide bomber in Karachi killed 136 and injured over 450 Benazir Bhutto supporters. Several reports from witnesses say Bhutto was shot once in the neck and once in the chest before the bomber blew himself up as Bhutto was leaving a rally of her Pakistan People's Party (PPP), for which she was party leader for life, held before elections scheduled for January 8th, after years of military rule.

According to Wasif Ali Khan, a member of Benazir Bhutto's PPP, she died at 18:16 (13:16 UTC), after 35 minutes of attempted resuscitation. The doctors said she had shrapnel injuries.

Her supporters, once informed of the death started chanting, "Dog Musharraf, dog," referring to President Pervez Musharraf. Many blamed Musharraf and the security services for the deaths. In their anger and confusion, PPP supporters destroyed the doors of Rawalpindi General Hospital. Others took to the streets in several cities, including Karachi, where tires were set on fire on the roads, a gas station was burned, and two police officers were wounded by gunmen. In Peshewar, about 100 PPP's supporters blocked the main trunk road, torching billboards and posters of the Musharraf-supporting Pakistan Muslim League-Q, opening fire in the air and screaming. Some buildings, including the main court and banks, were set on fire in Jacobabad as well.

Bhutto was born on June 21, 1953 in Karachi, Pakistan. She served two times as Prime Minister of Pakistan. Bhutto had returned to Pakistan from exile to stand in the upcoming elections. In 2007, she was named the second most influential woman in the world in a list at the American Internet portal MSN.

Benazir Bhutto is survived by her husband Asif Ali Zardari and three children: Bilawal, Bakhtawar, and Aseefa.

According to many polls taken before the assassination, Bhutto and her party would have won the January election.

Responses to the assassination
A spokesman for the Interior Ministry of Pakistan said that "Terrorists are trying to derail the election process". He also said he couldn't say "whether Bhutto was the target of this attack or whether the attacker was trying to create chaos and bloodshed."

The minister for Pakistani external affairs said that he was "shocked," and that his "sympathy goes to [Bhutto's] husband and children". He also said "we were looking forward to democracy in Pakistan. The attack shows terror is on the march in Pakistan."

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said that "In her death the subcontinent has lost an outstanding leader who worked for democracy and reconciliation in her country." He also said that "the manner of her going is a reminder of the common dangers that our region faces from cowardly acts of terrorism and of the need to eradicate this dangerous threat."

President Musharraf called for citizens of Pakistan to stay calm and said that terrorists can be defeated, providing people do not panic. He also said there was "a serious lapse of security."

United States President George W. Bush said the act that took place was a "cowardly act by murderous extremists who are trying to undermine Pakistan's democracy".

In a statement today, United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon condemned the killing of Bhutto. "I am shocked and outraged by the assassination of Mrs. Benazir Bhutto, the leader of the Pakistan People's Party and former Prime Minister. This represents an assault on stability in Pakistan and its democratic processes," said Ban. "I strongly condemn this heinous crime and call for the perpetrators to be brought to justice as soon as possible."

The Secretary-General also expressed condolences to Bhutto's family and the people of Pakistan. "While strongly urging for calm and restraint to be maintained at this difficult time, I call on all Pakistanis to work together for peace and national unity," said Ban.

Former Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif called it "the saddest day" in Pakistan's history. "Something unthinkable has happened," he said. Sharif said his party will boycott Pakistan's January 8 elections in the wake of Bhutto's death.

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May Pakistan and her people stand firm in the face of this disaster

how did she die?? bomb blast or shot dead??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.227.67.171 (talk) 13:52, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

A big woman. --Olando 13:57, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

It was not the bomb blast. According to CNN/AP and their Pakistani sources (including Bhutto's husband) she died of gunshot wounds she recieved after the bomb blast —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.101.59.232 (talk) 14:36, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Another source indicates that no bullets actually hit her; the bomb explosion caused her to hit her head on a beam that gave her a fatal concussion. 207.216.50.184 00:00, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Self - sacrifice owed a salvation
Benazir Bhutto had offered a sacrificial protection on democracy in pakistan. What a tragedy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.18.170.36 (talk) 14:49, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Musharraf or Al Qaeda did it and he must be brought to justice
My opinion, anyhow. Might be wrong, but we ought to investigate whether Musharraf orchestrated the killing. 68.36.214.143 15:16, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Forgot Bin Laden was still supposed to be in Pakistani hills, but still... 68.36.214.143 15:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it very well may have been both. Musharraf certainly did nothing to stop it at least.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.255.248.246 (talk) 00:29, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think taliban and alqaeda forces are responsible for it. pakistani forces are engaged heavily in the fight against them ,in the hilly areas where they are hiding. stop blaming mushrraf for that. cant u see that he himself survived attacks. the terrorist group is now facing tough time because of mililatry actions against them. as now they are getting alone and support for them is being cut, they are only left with carrying out suicide blast and blowing them up.. we pakistanis know the position better then any one. Zaidiwaqas 10:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

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I have the greatest sympathy for her family --User:Anonymous101 15:21, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Just horrible. The world has lost one of the brightest stars in politics. A great loss. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.154.134.178 (talk) 15:39, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Leaders
Some People are natural born leaders and they are feared by the simpletons and others with bad intention, it's funny how one little lady,soft spoken with a kind voice put so much fear into what we view to be strong mighty men, i hope we all learn a lesson from this,you don't need military might and a whole lot of weapons to move the masses and command respect,just kind words,understanding and just love for people. Sherwin Diamond —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.151.35.6 (talk) 19:21, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, but if she had such a large impact, can we really say that she was less strong and mighty than the people she challenged? True power comes from charisma, and she was as powerful as any other. May she rest in peace.--72.130.143.25 20:09, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

The silence...
... is deafening.

Where is the condemnation from the government of Iraq or Iran? In the latter case am I to assume that the ideologues view it as good riddance to a woman who did not know her place in society? The Western world has condemned this barbaric act and said the seeds of democracy within Pakistan must continue to be nourished, yet - as in my opening - where is the comment from the Islamic world? --Brian McNeil / talk 21:13, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The criminal action today in Rawalpindi is strongly condemned. The Pakistan Government should use all efforts to identify the terrorist group which caused this incident and punish them. - Muhammad Ali Hosseini, Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman
 * Saudi King Abdullah said the attackers were "wicked murderers who are distant from Islam and morals."
 * [Iraqi] President Jalal Talibani denounced the assassination and affirmed that Pakistan lost a dear daughter and a courageous politician that devoted her life to struggle for her people. He said that that terrorism killed a woman who courageously confronted terrorism and that exerted every possible effort in order to anchor the values of fraternity, tolerance and equity in her country.
 * "It was an unpardonable crime that has shocked the world. The government and people of Bangladesh mourned this tragedy with their Pakistani brethren," the interim [Bangladesh] government Chief Fakhruddin Ahmed said in a statement.
 * AFP rounds up reactions from several Islamic countries. –Doldrums(talk) 14:55, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * AFP rounds up reactions from several Islamic countries. –Doldrums(talk) 14:55, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Benazir Bhutto.......the leader of The nation.
when i saw the news, it was shocking. because i wouldn't want another charismatic person who wanted freedom in her country to be assassinated for no reason. because it happened in my country too, in the philippines. when self-exiled senator ninoy aquino was assassinated just seconds after walking down the plane. he was exiled in america for 3 years. he was also the leader of the opposition, just like Mrs. Bhutto. the two had the same dream, to have democracy in their own country. i saw the other news of the other assasination attempt. it was the karachi bombings. i hope that Benazir Bhutto will have peace in paradise with her father and her brothers. and i hope there will be peace in Pakistan. —User:Stevenphil|Stevenphil 00:21, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Benajir Bhutto fight for peace in pakistan. Murder of Benajir is very shame ful thing for humenity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.161.28.187 (talk) 01:21, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

very sad news..................................... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.29.10.222 (talk) 04:01, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

why?
All this killing is so unneccesary. All these differences that people have CAN be resolved. There is always common ground. After all we are all human beings. We need to find that common ground. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kjinnra nemesis (talk • contribs) 05:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I was very sad and traumatised to hear the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, the first woman elected to lead a Muslim state. Since I got informed two months ago of her determination to contribute to political changes in Pakistan, I have been following day to day the political evolution of this country. She passes away before achieving her noble purpose. I was also attracted by her party's slogan in 5 E's: Employment, Education, Energy, Environment and Equality. Other countrys'leaders, african women in particular, would learn much from this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.12.153.110 (talk) 07:10, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Benazir Bhutto's Death??
Oh,my God,are these Pakistani gone crazy?? This is an act of terror!What is the use of having elections under this situation where candidates life's are not protected and could be easily targeted by murderers?What is the use for democracy where candidates could be easily targeted by suicide bombers?What is going on with the security system of Pakistan?Why Pakistani are exposed to danger like this?Why can't evereyone settle this mess peacefully and develop the nation's economy?I am very dissapointed with this act as this trully marred the spirit of democracy where potential candidates are assasinated as they can't be free elecion as your favourite candidate is gone in seconds.This is just like the 1968 incident where Democratic candidate,Robert Francis Kennedy was assasinated.Where is justice?Who upholds them?As this must be planned by someone,someone must masteminded this!This person must be taken to justice!If not,there is no hope left in Pakistan's democracy! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.49.198.50 (talk) 09:24, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

A irrepairable loss for Pakistan and the world!
The assassination of Benazir Bhutto will be the most unfortunate moment for the democracy in Pakistan. Indeed, she was the only hope of Pakistan for restoring democracy and peace. Whoever is responsible for her assassination should be ruthlessly hanged and the person deserves no other punishment!

May her soul rest in peace! Amen! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhushan Damle (talk • contribs) 14:19, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Chaudhary Pervaiz Elahi Killed Benazir bhutto
According to the recent developments in Pakistan, streets are burning , shops are burnt by agree protesters , the whole nation of pakistan is under deep sorrow. people here in pakistan beleive that Chaudhary Pervaiz Elahi has killed Benazir bhutto

Please see the Footage of Bhutto's death Channel 4 News has exclusively obtained dramatic new footage which shows in clear detail the moment of Benazir Bhutto's death.

http://www.channel4.com/player/v2/player.jsp?showId=10619 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.44.180.165 (talk) 02:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Who's Chaudhary Pervaiz Elahi? never heard of him. 68.36.214.143 17:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

its a shame....
do you expect the world to wake up because on important person got killed?? i wish it was like that ...but the world has changed and not for the better...everything is about bloodshed..none cares anymore and it is a shame it has to be like this....benazir bhutto shouldn't have died a horrible death such as this one...but we can not say what has happened shouldnt have happened because it was already decreed. we just have to hope for the world to change...but we can nnot just say we have to do ...be apart of changing the world, stand up for what you think is right!!!and just maybe....the world can be a better place r.i.p benazir bhutto..--71.175.243.90 14:33, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

benazeer is not only a leader she was mother of 3 kids
i feel deeply sorrowed by the death of our leader with time we all will forget her these tears i have at this moment may not be after a few days may be years but the three kids she left will never have their mother they will miss a mother who was suppose to nature them when they are growing when they need her support for a world they still has to see i in makkah cry for her because i never met a courageous leader and will never have a leader like BENAZEER —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.33.190.77 (talk) 07:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Why L.O.C. is shown in here as an integral part of Pakistan?


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Category:Rawalpindi and Category:Punjab, Pakistan need to be added. Ali Rana (talk) 06:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ — Gopher65talk 01:17, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not getting into an article move war here, but surely a more concise title than the current "Benazir Bhutto, former Pakistani Prime Minister and democracy campaigner, killed in a suicide attack" can be used?!? Guinness2702 14:08, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Something simple like "Benazir Bhutto Assassinated" is unique enough and concise enough to be sufficient. Guinness2702 14:10, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * agreed. Benazir Bhutto killed in suicide attack should do, i think. –Doldrums(talk) 14:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

 * 'Assassination' implies a political conspiracy, vs the act of determined extremists, IIRC ShakespeareFan00 14:16, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, fair point. Also agree with doldrums, but was personally reluctant to use "suicide" in the original title, as it wasn't clear at the time.  I'm happy to go with Doldrum's suggestion now. Guinness2702 14:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * ShakespeareFan, would you want to imply that any attacker who blew himself up afterward must surely be an isolated individual who is not part of some group with a larger political agenda? As metal bullets to her neck on top of (or rather instead of) the explosion killed her, it seems obvious that this is more than just "some suizide bomber" who happened to be near her rally. --Gwyndon 14:51, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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Good sources

 * Google News
 * BBC and Al-Jazeera quoting some important people
 * George W. Bush on the attack

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I am surprised that the French Wikinews has no article on this. All the other languages do and this is a very important event at the moment.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 16:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The Polish Wikinews has no article on Bhutto's death as well, as far as I see. odder
 * I'm editing the German Wikinews on this as well and try to keep the news consistant. --Gwyndon 17:30, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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Category:Asif Ali Zardari. Ali Rana (talk) 07:58, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

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Category talk:Benazir Bhutto

Should this category be deleted soon, as, for obvious reasons, there will not be many more stories about Benazir Bhutto --User:Anonymous101 16:30, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * So? How does that affect the stories that were already published about her and that are collected in this category? --+Deprifry+ 16:50, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with Deprifry. There are already enough articles for a category; her death does not affect that. Category:9/11 contains news from this year, and will likely collect more next year; so even if we did go by your logic, it could still pick up aftermath stories for years, or even decades, to come. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Astoundingly, I discover that category doesn't exist. I'll try to find time to sort one out later. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:55, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with what seems to be the emerging consensus that this category should be kept on the basis that there are already a reasonable number of articles and that her death does not mean there will be no more articles. Adambro 17:33, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I accept that the category is still needed --User:Anonymous101 16:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

 * It is utterly ridiculous to suggest a category should be deleted because a person is now deceased. News on them will still be relevant to the situation in Pakistan many years down the road and "erasing" history as proposed is exactly what the people who killed her would like to see people do. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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Feared toll of Indonesian floods, landslides up to 130; dozens missing as bridge swept away

December 27, 2007 Heavy rains in Indonesia yesterday triggered widespread flooding and landslides across the nation. It has emerged that last night a bridge was swept away by the swollen river it stretched across, leaving around 40 to 50 people missing in Madiun, East Java. Meanwhile, the total toll of those known or feared to be dead has reached 130.

According to local police chief Supardi in a telephone conversation with Xinhua the flood waters weakened a foundation, resulting in the collapse. At least twenty motorcyclists, car drivers and passengers are thought to be dead, but as of midnight, no bodies had been recovered. However, three bikes have been retrieved. 100 rescuers have been dispatched to the scene. Continuing heavy rain forced the search to be abandoned temporarily.

Java as a whole is the worst affected island; in addition to the bridge collapse most of the landslides occurred in two Central Java districts. Health ministry official Rustam Pakaya told reporters that at least 28,000 people have been forced to abandon their homes in central Java, although exact figures are not yet available. The Red Cross commented that 45,000 East Javanese people have been similarly displaced. Thousands are seeking shelter in mosques and other public buildings.

Landslides buried houses and made roads impassable, while hundreds police officers, military personnel, local officials and volunteers have been digging with farm tools and even their hands to search for survivors. Heavy machinery is available but the road conditions have prevented it arriving at the areas where it is required. Jakarta has dispatched aid in the form of five tonnes of biscuits and instant meals, ten tonnes of baby food and multiple boats.

Heru Aji Pratomo, head of the disaster management centre in the worst-hit district of Karanganyar has confirmed the recovery of twelve more bodies. This brings the total confirmed death toll in the area to 48. He said that most bodies were recovered from three metre deep mud and required heavy digging machinery to retrieve. 28 remain missing.

Local resident Siswo told AFP "Suddenly I felt my house shaking, and I thought it was an earthquake. When I got outside, I saw that the houses next to mine were already covered by earth," and that it struck twelve neighbouring houses.

In the next district, Wonogiri, disaster management centre head Sri Mubadi told reporters they had retrieved two more bodies, reaching a total of six, with eleven more missing. He also confirmed that they currently have no access to heavy equipment.

In Tawangmangu about 1,000 rescuers were also searching for bodies and survivors without the aid of heavy machinery. Three more bodies were retrieved today.

Islamic cleric Abu Bakar Bashir toured a Karanganyar village, at which time he commented that he felt the disaster had been caused as a form of divine revenge, saying "This was likely caused by immoral acts going on here," and "This could be a lesson to be learned." The 69-year-old served two years after being linked to the 2002 Bali bombings, before having his conviction overturned last year.

Chalid Muhammad, director of Walhi, an Indonesian environmental group, had a different opinion. "For five consecutive years landslides and floods have occurred in Java, claiming many lives. The main trigger is ecological destruction caused by deforestation, forest conversions and chaotic spatial planning," Chalid told Reuters.

"There have been no adequate efforts by the government to protect the people from disasters. When the landslides happened officials were on holiday and there was no access of heavy equipment to the affected areas."


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This is a warning that you will be blocked if you persist in adding wholly inappropriate information to published articles. None of your contributions to date have been constructive and persisting in pursing your "personal jihad" will result in a block. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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I don't know why news networks persist in foisting this stuff on us, when they are fully aware that there are much more important issues to be discussed. I speak for the majority of people.


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US Presidential candidates offer condolences to family of Benazir Bhutto

December 27, 2007

The United States Presidential candidates offered condolences to Benazir Bhutto's family and to the country of Pakistan today. Multiple candidates offered up messages about this former foreign leader.

Former Pakistani Prime Minister Bhutto was killed in a suicide attack as she was leaving a political rally in the city of Rawalpindi. At least 20 people died in the attack, local reports say. The attack has been condemned internationally.

Slate columnist John Dickerson commented that "Moments after former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto's death was announced, I was getting e-mails from campaign aides, political obsessives, and the campaigns themselves. The candidates are quick to express their sadness, of course, but everyone is moving so fast because they're trying to muscle into the news cycle more than ever. There's only a week to go before the Iowa caucuses, and this murder lands right in the middle of a key issue in both parties. The ability to react to unpredictable news in a crazy world is at the heart of both primary debates."

Biden
Democratic Senator Joe Biden was first, holding a press conference at noon EST today, at the Des Moines Marriott hotel, solely to speak on the topic.

This is a terrible day. My heart goes out to Benazir Bhutto's family, friends and followers.

Like her father before her, Benazir Bhutto worked her whole life – and gave her life – to help Pakistan become a democratic, secular and modern Muslim country. She was a woman of extraordinary courage who returned to Pakistan in the face of death threats and even after an assassination attempt the day of her return, she did not flinch. It was a privilege to know her these many years and to call her a friend.

I am convinced Ms. Bhutto would have won free and fair elections next week. The fact that she was by far Pakistan’s most popular leader underscores the fact that there is a vast, moderate majority in Pakistan that must have a clear voice in the system. Her assassination makes it all the more urgent that Pakistan return to a democratic path.

This fall, I twice urged President Musharraf to provide better security for Ms. Bhutto and other political leaders – I wrote him before her return and after the first assassination attempt in October. The failure to protect Ms. Bhutto raises a lot of hard questions for the government and security services that must be answered.

I know that Benazir’s followers will be tempted to lash out in anger and violence. I urge them to remain calm – and not play into the hands of the forces of destruction. I urge Pakistan’s leaders to open a fully accountable and transparent investigation. We must find out who was behind this and bring those responsible to justice. And the United States should offer any assistance necessary, including investigative teams, to get to the bottom of this horror.

The way to honor Benazir Bhutto is to uphold the values for which she gave her life: democracy, moderation and social justice. I join with the Pakistani people in mourning the loss of a dear friend.

Brownback
U.S. Senator Sam Brownback, formerly the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations subcommittee with responsibility for Southeast Asia, commented:

I offer my deepest condolences for the loss of Benazir Bhutto and to the families of those killed today. This is a terrible loss to her supporters, the people of Pakistan and for democracy. I hope and pray that that the people of Pakistan and President Musharraf can avoid further bloodshed and continue down the road to democracy. Pakistan has been a good friend to the United States in fighting fundamentalist terrorism, and I sincerely hope we can continue to work together. Pakistan needs to continue to work toward a peaceful, stable and democratic nation if they hope to maintain our strong friendship.

Clinton
Democratic Senator Hillary Clinton commented from western Iowa:

Today the world once again is reminded of the dangers facing those who pursue democracy and free elections, in Pakistan and elsewhere in areas that are rife with conflict and violence and extremism and anti-democratic forces at work. I have known Benazir Bhutto for a dozen years and I knew her as a leader. I knew her as someone willing to take risks.

I hope that if there is any opportunity for the government and people of Pakistan to respond to this tragedy appropriately, it would be to move more steadfastly and determinately toward democracy. She has given her life for that hope, and I know that the people of our country stand in solidarity with those who believe as we do in the rights of people to be heard at the ballot box.

Dodd
26-year-member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Senator Chris Dodd commented:

"Today's news from Pakistan is both shocking and saddening. As a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, I have had the opportunity to travel to Pakistan and come to know Former Prime Minister Bhutto very well over the years. I spoke to her personally several weeks ago and have stayed in close contact with her since. She was a respected leader who played an important part in moving Pakistan toward democracy.

As we recognize the loss of a leader today, we must also recognize the implication of today's tragedy to the security of the region and to that of the United States.

At this critical time we must do everything in our power to help Pakistan continue the path toward democracy and full elections. Our first priority must be to ensure stability in this critical nuclear state.

The United States should also stand ready to provide assistance in investigating this heinous act. And as Pakistan perpetrators to justice, it should also demonstrate that it will not allow such violence to derail democracy and proceed with elections in a timely manner.

Huckabee
On his blog, former Arkansas Governor Republican Mike Huckabee commented:

I am deeply troubled by the news accounts this morning of Pakistani opposition leader and former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto’s assassination in a suicide attack. This is devastating news for the people of Pakistan, and my prayers go out to them as we follow developments regarding this dire situation.

The terrible violence surrounding Pakistan’s upcoming election stands in stark contrast to the peaceful transition of power that we embrace in our country through our Constitution. On this sad day, we are reminded that while our democracy has flaws, it stands as a shining beacon of hope for nations and people around the world who seek peace and opportunity through self-government.

Benazir Bhutto's assasination should also stand as a stark reminder for those who doubt the nature of our enemy.

I believe that we are currently engaged in a world war. Radical Islamic fascists have declared war on our country and our way of life. They have sworn to annihilate each of us who believe in a free society, all in the name of a perversion of religion and an impersonal god. We go to great extremes to save lives, they go to great extremes to take them. This war is not a conventional war, and these terrorists are not a conventional enemy. We must fight the war on terror with the intensity and single-mindedness that it deserves.

Kucinich
Democrat Dennis Kucinich commented: This is a very dangerous moment for the world. Prime Minister Bhutto represented the forces of reform and the hope for an end to repression in a troubled region, and her death is a major loss to those efforts.

This terrible tragedy also underscores the need for the United States to adopt a new foreign policy toward the entire region because our current policy is all wrong. Our interference in the internal affairs of Pakistan has opened wide the doors of repression and violence. At this very moment, we should be working with leaders of the region to convene a meeting at the highest levels to begin a new effort towards stabilization and peace.

The United States must take a new direction in Pakistan and throughout the region. I met her several times, both in Washington and New York. She was deeply and genuinely dedicated to Pakistan. This is a tragic loss.

McCain
Republican John McCain commented:

The death of Benazir Bhutto underscores yet again the grave dangers we face in the world today and particularly in countries like Pakistan, where the forces of moderation are arrayed in a fierce battle against those who embrace violent Islamic extremism. Given Pakistan’s strategic location, the international terrorist groups that operate from its soil, and its nuclear arsenal, the future of that country has deep implications for the security of the United States and its allies. America must stand on the right side of this ongoing struggle.

Romney
Republican Mitt Romney commented moments after the attack:

This points out again the extraordinary reality of global violent radical jihadism. We don't know who is responsible for this attack, but there is no question that the violence we see throughout the world is violence which is not limited to Iran—excuse me, Iraq—and Afghanistan but is more global in nature.


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STATEMENT ON THE DEATH OF BENAZIR BHUTTO FROM PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE DENNIS KUCINICH

For Immediate Release - Thursday, December 27, 2007

MANCHESTER, NH - Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich issued the following statement this morning after hearing the news of the assassination of former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto:

"This is a very dangerous moment for the world. Prime Minister Bhutto represented the forces of reform and the hope for an end to repression in a troubled region, and her death is a major loss to those efforts."

"This terrible tragedy also underscores the need for the United States to adopt a new foreign policy toward the entire region because our current policy is all wrong. Our interference in the internal affairs of Pakistan has opened wide the doors of repression and violence.  At this very moment, we should be working with leaders of the region to convene a meeting at the highest levels to begin a new effort towards stabilization and peace."

"The United States must take a new direction in Pakistan and throughout the region. I met her several times, both in Washington and New York.  She was deeply and genuinely dedicated to Pakistan. This is a tragic loss."

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

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December 27, 2007

BROWNBACK OFFERS CONDOLENCES AND PRAYERS FOR BHUTTO AND PAKISTAN

Former prime minister and opposition leader assassinated

WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator Sam Brownback today offered condolences for former Pakistani Prime Minister and opposition leader Benazir Bhutto who was assassinated today while leaving a political rally where she addressed her supporters leading up to the January 8 parliamentary elections. The gunman shot Bhutto twice and then blew himself up, killing at least 20 others. Brownback also offered prayers to those affected and to the leadership and people of Pakistan in hopes that this terrible tragedy will not escalate to further bloodshed.

“I offer my deepest condolences for the loss of Benazir Bhutto and to the families of those killed today. This is a terrible loss to her supporters, the people of Pakistan and for democracy,” Brownback said. “I hope and pray that that the people of Pakistan and President Musharraf can avoid further bloodshed and continue down the road to democracy. Pakistan has been a good friend to the United States in fighting fundamentalist terrorism, and I sincerely hope we can continue to work together. Pakistan needs to continue to work toward a peaceful, stable and democratic nation if they hope to maintain our strong friendship.”

Brownback is formerly the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations subcommittee with responsibility for Southeast Asia.

Inappropriate sourcing, cannot be published
Sources on talk pages are not acceptable. Talk pages are never protected and material on them may be changed by anyone. It is unacceptable to expect Wikinewsies to constantly monitor such pages for edits and updates. What is used as a source in the article should be listed using the source template and link to a credible source.

This article should not be published until such time as all comments are appropriately sourced.

The introduction also requires significant editing to conform with the Neutral Point of View policy and I will remove the publish tag until such time as I believe it does so. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:57, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Already see people working on my criticisms, please bear in mind this is - in part - related to saying to WP we work to a high standard. Being first with the news may give you a rush, but being first to be right gives you reason to be proud. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:04, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

The minority view
Are there any sources that actually say, "good, she's dead - she was a troublemaker" - or words to that effect? Religiously conservative muslims may have reason to want to see her out of politics over concerns she may have wanted to "westernise" Pakistan. Have any of them said so in any sources we can pick up? Is there anything on AR: we can get from this? --Brian McNeil / talk 18:08, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

More international
It is a bit "parochial" to focus on the U.S. presidential wannabees. Can't we get enough info to do International community condemns Bhutto assasination ? I'm in #wikipedia-ar at the moment trying to drag them into this. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Yes, I agree it's not the greatest to only focus on the US. But the main point of this article originally, before I started gathering other candidates, was to highlight the Slate comment, and the fact Biden called a whole press conference just for this one foreign topic, while domestic issues have ruled the campaign so far.

 * Perhaps a separate article for actual people who matter who talk about her death (as I admit that US Presidential candidates mostly don't matter), rather than redirecting this and adding to it? --  Zanimum 18:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

copyvio?
Isn't including blog posts a copyvio as they are copyrighted --User:Anonymous101 09:23, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


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I have removed your comment from the administrator's alert page as there was no action could be taken from it and it was inappropriately placed. Wikinews has a Comments namespace where you are free to express your personal opinions on articles we publish; please leave project pages for actionable items or similar such. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:52, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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Welcome
Thanks for experimenting with Wikinews. Your test worked, and has now been reverted or removed. Please use Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles may disrupt the site's working and will be reverted quickly. , welcome to Wikinews! Please refrain from using content pages for testing. Here are a few good links for newcomers on how to edit Wikinews:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! --+Deprifry+ 18:54, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
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 * Introduction - overview of the site
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Comments:US lawmakers and rights advocates question CIA tape destruction

FELONY VIOLATION - USA Patriot Act
The destruction of the CIA tapes that document evidence obtained in the interrogation of high level terrorist suspects is a flagrant FELONY VIOLATION of the USA Patriot Act.

Why am I the only person on the internet posting about the FELONY VIOLATION of the USA Patriot Act.

All you people belly-aching about your freedoms being taken away by the Patriot Act are MISSING THE BOAT.

Fight fire with fire.

Prosecuting the bush administration for the destructino of these CIA tapes with provisions provided in the USA Patriot Act for FELONY prosecution for the destruction of key, critical and crucial evidence in the 'War on Terror' is essentail.

Bush and his cronies will be forced to DESTROY the Patriot Act in the courts in order to avoid its penaties.

The Media will have a HUGE story to run that EVERYBODY will want to read, the President and his boy's in one of the most UNAMERICAN and CRIMINAL acts of this administration.

Prosecute with the Patriot Act, and you will see the light of freedom.

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Wikinews:Criteria to use an article as a source on Wikipedia

Criteria
To have some articles in Wikinews that can be quoted as reliable sources in Wikipedia, we need to apply the same criteria as for any other source, namely:
 * Fact checking: A known fact checking/editorial process for these news articles
 * Editorial Accountability: A known entity, e.g. an editorial board that approves these articles and bears the responsibility for the accuracy of these
 * Journalist Accountability: Journalists are accredited by a known process, their real-life names known and published (pen names OK, but the real name needs to be on record)
 * Accredited reporters must supply the name they use on government-issued identification (although pen names are still okay)
 * Original Research is encouraged; however, not all original research may be appropriate

Interviews
Are acceptable as sources:

1) Once a page is archived and no longer can be edited.

2) It has been certified as fact checked and reviewed by another accredited editor

3) Audio transcriptions should be made available, unless there is a good reason not to provide it

4) OR notes should includes at a minimum: Who was present for the interview, the manner it was conducted, its length, and if pertinent, the disposition of the interviewee (only if pertinent, for instance, if they are hostile, which will aid in understand the tone).  Were the questions submitted to interviewee in advance?

5) Although paragraph-story interviews are okay, preferably interviews should follow a Q&A style for accuracy and NPOV.

6) The final, published interview should be sent to the interviewee or a representative of the interviewee.

Other news articles

 * Only Accredited Reporters may have their work used as a source on Wikipedia.
 * Follow Style guide
 * Distinctions between opinion and reportage of facts. Clear distinctions need to be made available in the copy. Is the news article an opinion, or a reportage of facts?

Signage
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Wikinews talk:Criteria to use an article as a source on Wikipedia

I created this page, which anyone can move to a more appropriate place, to ask input from both Wikipedians and Wikinewsies about what sort of standards they feel should be in place in order for a Wikinews article to be used as a credible source on Wikipedia. Don't worry or point out if some of these things already are policy - this is more a workshop for everyone.

Below are suggestions I have seen so far (feel free to edit or add anything):

1) Once a page is archived and no longer can be edited.

2) The article should be certified as fact checked and reviewed by an accredited editor

3) Accredited reporters must supply the name they use on government-issued identification (although pen names are still okay)

4) Original Research is encouraged; however, not all original research may be appropriate

5) Audio transcriptions should be made available, unless there is a good reason not to provide it

6) OR notes should includes at a minimum: Who was present for the interview, the manner it was conducted, its length, and if pertinent, the disposition of the interviewee (only if pertinent, for instance, if they are hostile, which will aid in understand the tone)

7) Although paragraph-story interviews are okay, preferably interviews should follow a Q&A style for accuracy and NPOV.

Points to consider
If the intention is to have some articles in Wikinews to be quotable as reliable sources in Wikipedia, we need to apply the same criteria as for any other source, namely:
 * Fact checking: A known fact checking/editorial process for these news articles
 * Editorial Accountability: A known entity, e.g. an editorial board that approves these articles and bears the responsibility for the accuracy of these
 * Journalist Accountability: Journalists are accredited by a known process, their real-life names known and published (pen names OK, but the real name needs to be on record)
 * Distinctions between opinion and reportage of facts. Clear distinctions need to be made available in the copy. Is the news article an opinion, or a reportage of facts?

Jossi 22:40, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * All good points: re Journalist Accountability, I use a pen name although my real name--David Miller--is not a secret and published.  But I have photographed and written under Shankbone for so long that I am actually more well-known by that name than my birth name.  Also, pen names are common in journalism (I'm a member of the New York Press Club and asked about this point, and the Prez confirmed they are quite common).  I think a pen name--once chosen you are stuck--with your real name published on the site is okay.
 * Jossi, did you read my Israel Journal: The Holy Land has an image problem? That was essentially fact, and reporting, but it contained some minor editorializing.  How would we deal with a story like that?

Thanks for your attention. --David Shankbone 22:45, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

If the initial idea is to start with interviews of notable individuals, these issues may need to be considered:
 * Interview needs to be submitted to interviewee or his/her agent prior to publishing to elicit comments as to the accuracy of the transcription
 * Name, location, medium (phone, live), etc. of the interview
 * Were the questions submitted to interviewee in advance?
 * Interviewee needs to be made aware of NPOV, and BLP, namely the fact that we will not accept claims or comments about third parties that may be defamatory or questionable in nature

Jossi 22:45, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Re: Israel Journal: The Holy Land has an image problem
 * It is a nicely written piece... but it is what can be called an opinion piece, or an editorial, neither of which would be acceptable as a reliable source in Wikipedia. Jossi 22:49, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree with you there. But it should be marked somehow?  I am also currently proposing we do some guest editorials on here--again, not something for WP--do you think there should be demaracations for different reporting?
 * Editorials traditonally used Editorial (but then again, traditional we didn't allow them to leave userspace whatsoever). Bawolff ☺☻ 19:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, I usually send my interviews post-publishing to the interviewees; but there have been a couple of times they want to take things back that they said. Generally, the answer is 'no' unless there is a good reason ("I totally misunderstood the question", e.g.)  I firmly believe they should be sent a copy of the published interview, but why do you think it should be sent pre-published?  --David Shankbone 22:56, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

 * To avoid legal implications. The Wikimedia Foundation should not bear the brunt of a legal challenge. Jossi 23:04, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I see your concern, but since we record our interviews, and indeed will begin to post the audio recordings, that should negate that concern, no? --David Shankbone 23:08, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

This is too focused on interviews. We should strive for a policy that encompasses all or most of the OR on Wikinews. --+Deprifry+ 22:30, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with you, but I have a better idea: why don't you create a list that deals specifically with OR stories?  I think interviews are a different animal; related, but different.  We'll put both conversations on the same page.  I think once we start discussing them, we'll see that issues in OR stories don't often occur in interviews, and vice versa.  Want some help?  --David Shankbone 22:40, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

WP-qualified article symbology
What kind of symbol should we use for a Wikipedia-qualified article? Another question is: should we just incorporate all of this into the Featured Article process and propose that FAs may be used, and adhere to the criteria to address the concerns outlined above, or keep FA and WQ separate? —Preceding unsigned comment added by David Shankbone (talk • contribs) 03:18, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I created in the past some seals for WP, that were never used.... See w:User:Jossi/sandbox/policylogo. Maybe some of these can be repurposed, or at least bring forth some ideas.Jossi 04:24, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm opposed to a two-tier wikinews (stuff thats good enough for wikipedia, and stuff that isn't). Bawolff ☺☻ 07:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you are alone in thinking that everything we do on here is of the quality to be used on Wikipedia as a source. --David Shankbone 14:27, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

chicken or egg
Which should come first our policies in regards to OR and interviews, or should it be that we find out what hoops Wikinews needs to be jumped through to satisfy Wikipedia requirements of Verifiability, Reliable source, and Original Research. Gnangarra 07:44, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Other Thoughts
We also need to build relationships with outside media organisations to this we need to be able to ensure that events get covered quickly and professionally. We have the advantage of cost over other sources, for a media outlet to run something we wrote their cost is attribution only both for the story and any images we may provide.

Another way is ask Jimbo to put a condition on interviews he gives to smaller media outlets to be uploaded here as well, these interviews can be instantly archived unaltered. Gnangarra 07:44, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

over-relliance of accredited reporters
I'm slightly concerned with demand for accreditation in this proposal. While I agree that accreditation fulls a role, we should not rely on it for people to be truthful, as people with names still lie cheat and steal, but people don't expect them to (or expect them to less). This could imply a false sense of security. (To quote: A weak security system can be worse than no security at all, because it may lull users into unwarranted trust.). To summarize, I think that fact checking and such is important and good, and nothing should be able to get pass that, but an additional layer of security by saying that accredited reporters only, as they are without a doubt honest and good is a bad idea.[Did that make sense?] Bawolff ☺☻ 20:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I champion your feeling, but there are two reasons that make accreditation necessary for use on Wikipedia: 1.  because Wikipedia demands it and they ultimately will go for no less; and 2. because accreditation should mean something.  And that is a very attractive plum for people to reach for: accreditation means your work might be deemed use-able on Wikipedia.  --David Shankbone 05:37, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * If only accredited, then so be it. IMO, that means we as in the reporter is fully responsible for his or her work. I think for now, its ok to say only accredited, so long as the article itself is sourced. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 07:09, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Question
Does Wikinews dictate Wikipedia policy. this editor and I think otherwise. Septrillion (talk) 21:59, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * That question seems somewhat insane to me. Afaict this ancient page represented Wikipedian policy attempting to intrude on Wikinews (rather pointlessly, since, politically, there is no way Wikipedia would ever accept Wikinews as reliable, regardless of the quality of our output).  --Pi zero (talk) 22:35, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No it is not. This is a page on Wikinews dictating what criteria Wikipedia should use in determining reliability of Wikinews articles. The appropriate place for such an article would be on Wikipedia itself. Septrillion (talk) 22:40, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Nope. I misread the article. Septrillion (talk) 22:41, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I'd ever noticed this page before. It really was confusing; thanks for drawing attention to it.  Hopefully the new hatnote makes the situation much clearer.  --Pi zero (talk) 23:59, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Septrillion (talk) 00:04, 15 May 2018 (UTC)


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User talk:70.255.82.169

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Wikinews talk:Administrators/confirm

Reinstatement of rights without an RfA
Whilst appreciating that we want to avoid excessive bureaucracy, I don't agree that admins who's rights are removed due to inactivity should be able to have these restored without first recieving the backing of the community. On this basis, I oppose the sentence: "They may be requested again (without a RfA) from any bureaucrat." I unsure whether this additional page is required or whether this could fit into the existing processes on WN:A. The "Requests for de-adminship" would seem to fit the purpose as has been demonstrated by the recent removal of rights from User:PVJ59. Adambro 23:43, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I based that sentence on MessedRocker's reinstatement of Adminship, but that was because he resigned. Bit of an oversight on my part. Thunderhead - (talk - email - contributions) 05:15, 28 December 2007 (UTC)q

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Comments:Six dead in shooting near Seattle, United States

gun laws
does anybody else feel this is much less likely to happen if guns were illegal. I'm not saying it couldn't but it is alot harder to kill 6 people without a gun. any chance n.america will see sense? NOPE!


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World Trade Organization allows Antigua to ignore US$21 million of US copyright per year

December 29, 2007

Arbitrators at the World Trade Organization (WTO) have granted the Caribbean country of Antigua and Barbuda a special dispensation to ignore United States copyright law.

In their report, the WTO panel stated that Antigua possessed "no effective trade sanctions against the USA" and agreed to allow the country to ignore up to US$21 million worth of US copyrights a year. While this amount falls significantly short of the US$3.4 billion per year dispensation that Antigua was seeking, it is far higher than the US$500,000 per year allocation that US negotiators were pushing for.

The ruling comes at the end of a five year legal contest between Antigua and the USA regarding the USA's blocking of offshore online gambling sites. Because many of these sites were located in Antigua, the Antiguan government filed a complaint with the WTO saying that the US prohibition constituted unlawful restriction of trade. When the WTO agreed, Antigua pressed for US$3.4 billion in punitive damages. They asked to have this penalty assessed as permission to copy US intellectual property, since there was no trade embargo that Antigua could impose on the US to collect the amount for itself. The panel agreed that Antigua had no way to collect punitive damages through trade sanctions. However, they lowered the amount of damages to US$21 million per year.


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Talk:Principal of school where US President Bush learned of 9/11 attacks dies

It is sad that the principal died from cancer and all but there is no connection with why the principal is important and what she had to do with the 9/11 attacks. Just because Bush was there doesn't make it right to report about the principal. So, what is the connection here and why does this person have significance/or is notable? Did the principal make a statement about the attacks, etc?  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 02:03, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I don't find it terribly important either, but I've published. --  Zanimum 17:35, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

While I'm saddened to hear of the death of any person, I don't quite understand how this is newsworthy other than running an obituary in the local paper. It's not like its a slow news day what with everything going on in Pakistan.--149.55.30.100 18:10, 28 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by FellowWikiNews (talk • contribs)

I think we should publish this as we need to get some news out to our readers. Not one story has been published today. --User:Anonymous101 17:21, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * This story is three days old and it was published with the December 27 date. Also, three days old news can't be published three days later. This is also not newsworthy.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 18:09, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


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User talk:Gabzgomez

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User talk:Intergalactic planet

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User talk:24.118.9.249

Welcome
Welcome!

24.118.9.249, welcome to Wikinews! Thank you for your contributions I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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 * I would recommend that you get a username. You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikinews, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information (not even an e-mail address), and there are many benefits of having a username.  (If you edit without a username, your IP address is used to identify you instead.)

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If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! User:Anonymous101 13:23, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Well done
I would like to congradulate you on a briliant first edit to Wikinews. Well done for posting sources correctly, writing a good article, marking as in development and using Neuteral point of view. --User:Anonymous101 13:29, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:75.139.115.210

Inform Print Edition
Hi , A new edition of the Wikinews print edition has been released. See below for the latest Print Editions-

You are subscribed to Inform print edition. To unsubscribe just contact me at my talk page or remove your name from the list of subscribers

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Wikinews:WikiBureau Moldova

WikiBureau Moldova attempts to bring editors together who are working on writing and publishing articles regarding topics in Moldova.

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Category:9/11

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Talk:Moroccan gets seven years in German 9/11 retrial

Please add this article to Category:9/11. Also, language tags requested for the sources. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:11, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Class of 9/11 graduates West Point

Please add this article to Category:9/11. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:17, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

 * ✅ Adambro 15:23, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Update: U.S. Army intelligence had detected 9/11 terrorists year before, says officer

Please add this article to Category:9/11. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:24, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
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Talk:9/11 conspirator Moussaoui ejected from court

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Talk:Report finds FBI missed multiple chances to stop 9/11

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Talk:Federal judge calls EPA head's post 9/11 conduct "conscience-shocking".

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Talk:Second video of Osama bin Laden surfaces

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Talk:Audiotape of al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden surfaces on Internet

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Talk:National Park Service covers donation box at United Airlines Flight 93 memorial

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Talk:Owner wants $10 million for Flight 93 crash site land

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Comments:Principal of school where US President Bush learned of 9/11 attacks dies

Is this news?
While I'm saddened to hear of the death of any person, I don't quite understand how this is newsworthy other than running an obituary in the local paper. It's not like its a slow news day what with everything going on in Pakistan.--149.55.30.100 18:10, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, you should post here instead. This page is for comments on the news. Also, I moved your comment there.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 18:12, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


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Benazir Bhutto buried; violence erupts in assassination aftermath

December 28, 2007

Former Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto, who was killed in a suicide attack yesterday, has been buried in her ancestral home in the village of Garhi Khuda Bakhsh. Meanwhile, violence has erupted across the nation in protest to the 54-year-old opposition leader's death.

The Pakistani government has claimed to have evidence to suggest that al Qaeda were responsible for attacking her at the end of her address to an election rally. One spokesperson for the Interior Ministry said "We have intelligence intercepts indicating that al Qaeda leader Baitullah Mehsud is behind her assassination." Mehsud, believed to be in Pakistan near the border with Afghanistan, is one of Pakistan's most wanted criminals.

Mustafa Abu al-Yazid, a head of al Qaeda in Afghanistan, told the Asia Times by telephone that the group had indeed been responsible, saying "This is our first major victory against those who have been siding with infidels in a fight against Al Qaeda and declared a war against mujahideen," and that anti-Shi'ite militant group Lashkar-i-Jhangvi carried out the attack on al Qaeda's behalf.

United States federal bodies are attempting to verify that al Qaeda were responsible. One official told the Associated Press that a bulletin circulated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Homeland Security to law enforcement groups mentioned several Islamist websites posting claims of responsibility. Director of National Intelligence spokesman Ross Feinstein commented that they were "in no position right now to confirm who may have been responsible."

Unrest in Sindh, Bhutto's home province, was to the extent that the military has been called in to the area. According to officials, unrest since her death has resulted in 32 deaths, including those of four police officers. 23 of the deaths were in Sindh. It is feared that recent events could cause Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf to postpone an election intended to place Pakistan back under civilian rule, which is currently planned for January 8.

Soldiers were told to shoot to kill violent protesters on sight, as scores of people set up roadblocks and torched hundreds of cars, trucks and buses. Other areas also saw violence; an election meeting in the Northwest suffered a bomb attack that killed a candidate for Musharrif's party and seven others, whilst one was killed in the city of Lahore.

Thousands lined the way as Bhutto's coffin, draped in the tricolor of the Pakistan People's Party, was transported the 7km to the family mausoleum, accompanied by Bhutto's husband Asif Ali Zardari. She was laid to rest alongside the body of her father, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, himself a former Prime Minister hung after a military coup. Zardini prayed at the site alongside their three children, son Bilawal, 19, and daughters Bakhtawar, 17 and Aseefa, 14. Bhutto's two brothers, whose deaths remain officially unexplained, are also buried at the site, which she had herself arranged the construction of.

Reuters reported that many at the scene chanted slogans in opposition to Musharraf and to the United States, who for many years have supported Musharraf. "Shame on the killer Musharraf, shame on the killer U.S.," the news agency quoted the mourners as saying. Meanwhile, one farmer told them "Bhutto was my sister and Bhutto was like my mother... With her death, the world has ended for us."

Musharraf, a former army general, seized power in an armed 1999 coup. For many years he has had US support in the hope that he can keep control in the unstable country, which is afflicted with Islamic extremist violence.

Economics in the country have also been much affected, Koichi Ogawa, chief portfolio manager at Daiwa SB Investments, commented that "Unrest in Pakistan is eroding the market sentiment dramatically as Pakistan, unlike North Korea or Iran, is known to really have nuclear weapons." Although the affect was generally to decrease values, lower risk investments, such as gold, went up in demand.

India has reacted to the violence by ordering immediate suspension of all cross-border bus and rail services with Pakistan amid fears that violence will spread. Extremists are known to attack trains, including one attack in February where 68 people died on an Indian train heading for Pakistan. Indian border forces have been put on alert, although no specific threats have yet been identified. Relations between the two countries are peaceful but tense, and Indian border forces regularly go on alert at times of crisis in Pakistan.


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User:Schwael~enwikinews

why can't i have one user page for wikipedia and wikimedia and wikinews. it's a pain in the butt to have to go through all this whenever i want to leave a comment and get a response!!

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User talk:Doaboii~enwikinews

Welcome
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Hi, I removed the story you put on this page as it violates What Wikinews is not. Wikinews is not a free webhost or blog or any other website but a news site. If you would like to test see our Sandbox. Thanks.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 19:27, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Doaboii. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Doaboii~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:30, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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Wall of Siberian tiger enclosure at San Francisco Zoo is too short

December 28, 2007 The San Francisco Zoo has admitted that the walls of the enclosure around their Siberian tiger exhibit are too short. On December 25, Tatiana, one of two Siberians at the Zoo, climbed the wall and attacked three people, killing one. Reports say that Tatiana used her front claws to grab on the observation ledge of the enclosure and pull herself up out of her habitat.

On Wednesday the Director of the Zoo, Manuel A. Mollinedo told the media that the enclosure's wall was 18 feet high, but today he came forward and admitted that the wall was only 12 feet 5 inches high. The Association of Zoos and Aquariums (AZA) recommends the wall be at least 16 feet high. Mollinedo also said that he believes Tatiana escaped her enclosure by jumping or climbing it.

The Zoo is accredited with the Association through 2011. According to the Association's website, for a zoo or aquarium to become accredited with the AZA, they must fill out an application and "the [AZA] Accreditation Commission [must] evaluate every zoo or aquarium to make sure it meets AZA's standards for animal management and care, including living environments, social groupings, health, and nutrition. We also make sure that animals are provided with enrichment, which stimulates each animal's natural behavior and provides variety in their daily routine." The commission meets twice a year to evaluate applications.

"The San Francisco Zoo is a great zoo, it's an accredited AZA member in good standing, and it has our support during this difficult time. AZA mandatory accreditation standards require that the San Francisco Zoo provide a thorough report to its independent Accreditation Commission, which will review it and determine any actions that need to be taken. We will not speculate on what action might be taken until the facts are fully reviewed," said a statement on the AZA's website posted on Wednesday. "AZA-accredited zoos are safe. Until this incident, there had not been a visitor fatality resulting from an animal escape at an AZA-accredited zoo. AZA mandatory accreditation standards require safety and emergency protocols that go beyond federal, state or local requirements. Regular safety training and annual emergency drills are required by these mandatory accreditation standards," added the statement.

According to Mollinedo the Association inspected the Zoo in 2004, but never pointed out that the wall was too short. The enclosure is also surrounded by a dry moat that is 12 feet deep at the corners and 13 feet deep at the center.

Police are still investigating the incident and deny reports that the injured brothers Kulbir Dhaliwal, 23, and Paul Dhaliwal, 19 along with their friend Carlos Sousa Jr., who was killed, were taunting Tatiana by dangling a leg into her enclosure. Police do say that a footprint was found at the scene, but no further details are known. The brothers both received severe upper body and arm lacerations, but are expected to be released from the hospital on Saturday.

"We have no information at this point that they did or did not go over the railing," said Chief of the San Francisco Police Department, Heather Fong.

On Wednesday, Fong stated that "[The incident is being treated as a crime] because we're not certain why the incident occurred - as result of human action or whether this was an incident where the animal was able to get out of the grotto."

The Zoo remains closed for business and it is not known when it will reopen.