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User talk:Anonymous101/Archive1

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Pease comment here --User:Anonymous101 /Talk 14:54, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

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 * I have been checking through my talk pages and have realized I never thanked you for welcoming me to Wikinews so I am thanking you for the welcome now. Sorry it is two months late. --User:Anonymous101 Talk 19:24, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

UK prime minister says donations were not lawfully declared
It's published now. --SVTCobra 19:08, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Can I just say that when moving an article from ready to needs development you shoul give a reason in the talk page, which you did not do.As an admin I would expect you to follow simple guidelines like these. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymous101 (talk • contribs) 19:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

 * You may say that, but I might remind you that on two occasions, you re-published this article after it was un-published by different admins without properly addressing the problems with the article. When an unfit article is published, my first concern is to unpublish it. I will do that with no explanation on the talk page at first, and just move it to . Then, I will either fix it or post something on the talk page (collaboration page). But I had no chance to do that. You, first republished, then moved to ready, before I had any chance to do either of two. (and to muck it up further, an anon re-published in the same span of time.) Afterall, this was only unpublished for 22 minutes, so I wouldn't fret about it. --SVTCobra 19:29, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Listen, I unpublished at 18:43 you republished at 18:44. That didn't really give me a chance to do anything, did it? Now, I would like to tell you that you wrote a great article and your use of images and quoteleft were great to see from a first-time contributor, but you combative nature is getting on my nerves. --SVTCobra 19:43, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Interview with Reggie Bibbs on his life with neurofibromatosis
Thanks for trying to help out, unfortunately I'm behind an annoyingly strong internet filter which prevents me from checking the uploaded video myself! --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 18:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Quiz
Hi,

Thank you very much for your friendly comment, I try to make it fun and I aim so that most people would get something between 5 and 8 /10. See you around and enjoy Wikinews! If you have any questions or need any help, or if you want to collaborate on something, please let me know.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:50, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

A note on using QuoteLeft
When using QuoteLeft (or QuoteRight), you are supposed to be high-lighting something from the article to pique the reader's interest. Therefore, anything in a QuoteLeft should added to the body of the article as well. Cheers, --SVTCobra 16:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Test
I am experimenting with the UKhello template I have created

--User:Anonymous101 18:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

EU treaty
we already have an eu treaty story --SVTCobra 17:33, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Please see: European leaders sign Lisbon Treaty. Thanks, --SVTCobra 17:34, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons
Please comment here for Wikimedia Commons. Note-This is a replacment for my Commons User talk page

Wikipedia (EN/FR/ES)
Comment on my Wikipedia work here - Do not comment on my Wikipedia Page.

Print edition
Thanks for doing it. I have been away for a few days, so it is nice to see it getting done. I will back friday, so if you could keep doing it till then, that would be wonderfull--Cspurrier 23:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Print edition: new features
Why did you redirect Wikinews Print edition: new features to the news article? Was that a mistake?  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 19:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * You can create it again as Print edition/new features, then it will not be in the main space.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 19:12, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * See my post on your talk page.

Thai election
Hope you don't mind how I pretty much "took over" the Thai election article. I've done a fair bit on the events leading up to Thaksin being deposed and followed what happened after. You could say I got lucky with some of the really early stories on this which I didn't add to the now-overloaded related section. I followed Thaksin's battle with some of his opponents in the media and the PR disaster that his efforts to silence them turned into. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:01, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Signature
Hi,

just to let you know that you can replace your signature (I prefer...) with something like (Reply), which you can also use on your talk page.

Steven Fruitsmaak —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevenfruitsmaak (talk • contribs) 13:26, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Please be informed that we have a tradition (and there might be a policy somewhere) of not having images in our signatures, I seem to have noticed Image:Anonymous101.jpg on several talk pages, please make sure not to include any images in your signature (for image spamming and server resource reasons). --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:30, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the info --User:Anonymous101 06:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Okay, I thought so but wasn't sure, thanks for being patient with me :-). --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 09:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

US Presidential candidates offer condolences to family of Benazir Bhutto
Isn't quoting paragraph's from blogs and press releases a copyvio. ( I am contacting you as you were one of the users who edited the article). Please respond so I know whether to include it in the Wikinews Print Edition (as I don't want copyvios in the print edition). I am not saying you added the apparent copyvio but I need an answer soon so I am contacting most users who edited that page. User:Anonymous101 09:29, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

 * No, in this case copying wholesale isn't. These blogs and press releases were created with the express purpose of getting the candidate's message out to the widest amount of people possible. Thus, if they're cited as being from whatever site, and they are shown as being a quote, this is completely fair use.

 * Occasionally, my local major newspaper has reprinted entire speeches and testimonies, taking up a few thousand words each.

 * I'm guessing it's too late for the print edition now, but I'm not sure how many would be interested in reading the article anyway. --  Zanimum 17:08, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Wikinews%27_overview_of_the_year_2007
Replied here. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 10:10, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews news brief
I just want to congradulate you on a brilliant Wikinews news brief. --User:Anonymous101 18:40, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot, Anonymous101, and I'm glad you enjoyed it. Please do let me know if there's anything that could be done better in my News Briefs (which should be daily from now on) or anything else you think should be included in them. Stay tuned for future News Briefs! Thank you again, --NicholasTurnbull 21:50, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Leaving?
Anonymous101 will not leave Wikinews

I hope your activity level does not mean you are leaving :( DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:05, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

 * My activity Level changes daily. I am not leaving Wikinews. I am sorry if that is not made clear. --User:Anonymous101 Talk 16:49, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

What do you think of my new user page
As you may have noticed, my user page has been completely redesigned. Please leave feedback on my new user page here. --User:Anonymous101 Talk 19:41, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Stories
Hi Anonymous101! I want to thank you for the great number of articles that you have been contributing. Before you publish, it would be helpful if you could categories to the stories. Thanks, --SVTCobra 02:40, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

 * OK, I will try to add cotegories to future stories --User:Anonymous101 Talk 08:36, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

For example
I am reasonably confident it can be published but just to be sure I have marked it for review by other editors. I had one very very minor issue with POV (It was minor, only one word) but except for that well done..--User:Anonymous101 Talk 16:05, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Out of curiosity, what was the POV word/sentence? -- 203.57.68.20 15:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, just checked history, saw it. Lucrative. Macquarie Bank (where he was reportedly offered a senior position) is called the "millionaire factory". One of our most consistently performing fin institutions. Lucrative seemed like an understatement really. When Mac offers you a job, you think about it. Haven't reverted, reads better. Other than that, thnx for help.

Oh, BTW, How to archive a talk page doesn't link where you think it does. It's trying to call up an article, not an in-house help page. w:Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page links to w:Help:Archiving a talk page, which is what you wanted, I think.

 * I agree it is lucrative but some may consider it as POV . Well done for your excellent work. Thanks for telling me about the archiving a talk page thing. I just created the archive and never checked, I used an archive design that many other users use. I used that link by looking at other users talk page. Thanks for your help. I'll create a redirect as I think so many users use this link. Thanks for telling me. --User:Anonymous101 Talk 16:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

No probs. That's how I found it didn't work. Anyway, just reread my comment, "other than that, thanks" reads as if "that" bothered me. It didn't, of course. As I said, your edit read better. (Ie, regardless of a POV issue, lucrative read sloppy.) I went through the same issue with "slammed", "attacked", type words. Once I NPOVed them, it seemed to read better anyway. -- 203.57.68.20 16:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

RSS
I don't suppose you know the subscriber count on the main RSS feed? Even the count on any other feed would be a help, this is for a press release/project summary. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:05, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The audio one would be a start. I believe you should also look at the possibility of getting reports into iTunes. Used to be possible to subscribe to the Print Edition on there. [And you can respond here, I've your page on my watch list.] --Brian McNeil / talk 10:14, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I am about to try and get the subsciber count. The problem with iTunes is that it only supports the (patented) mp3 format, which Wikimedia does not suport. There are plugins that allow you to play ogg in iTunes and if you have one of them you can subscribe to this podcast by clicking on the iTunes link in the feed.
 * I have got some RSS feed stats but tthe figure in quite low due to the fact the feed got changed to this feed just 14 and a half hous ago.This feed has been accesed 12 times in that time. I am sure it will increase as the feed develops so and I will happily give you figures in a day or so if you want better figures. Due to the age of the feed some of the data is currently not available. It will be available 24 hours after I created it. --User:Anonymous101 Talk 10:45, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This might be low because the feed hasn't worked for 6 months and ot suddenly started working again. Most people will not be aware in the change of feed and that it works again. --User:Anonymous101 Talk 10:47, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I will happily give you more info if required --User:Anonymous101 Talk 19:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

That's fine with me. I intend to become more active in Wikinews but if someone else is willing to maintain the RSS feed, I am happy. --Munchkinguy 03:23, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Obits...
Thanks for the feedback on last weekend's obits article. Not sure if I can guarantee a weekly or regular appearance, as that article actually took a fair bit of time to put together, even with sources and content readily available. Regular features really require some sort of group effort - witness the on/off action with the Audio Wikinews. However, I could rough in an obits article for this weekend and hope people can contribute and expand things. DL+1613 03:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Google finds Microsoft bid for Yahoo 'troubling'
Who are Schmidt and Yang? --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 10:55, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, they are Eric E. Schmidt (Google Chairman) and Jerry Yang (Yahoo chairman). I really should have included that as many people will not recognize the name. -- 16:17, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

about 42 killed in tornados across southern U.S. : This number'ld change all time
To put a number of casuality into a title, is not a good idea. This number'ld change all time ... Not so accurate in fact :) Jacques Divol 16:30, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * OK --Anonymous101 16:32, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Vienna protest?
Suggest moving POV section to 'Collaboration' or Opinions page with appropriate warnings...

It may still be genuine and I've asked politely in #Wikipedia-de if someone could check the claims in regard to Vienna, possibly with the Vienesse authorities.. 62.56.64.224 16:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Good Idea. I am contacting the author of that section to see if he has verification for the claims (photographs etc.) .  Anonymous101 Talk RfA 16:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Respond to your message - I am the author of the article, and which proof do you mean? It is a "first hand report", meaning the author has witnessed or was involved in the told. So, a report like this usually has no proof. It IS proof, so to speak. If not proof, then source. Where do you think, the article is biased? I do not know, how to discuss with you other than that, so if I made a mistake technically please inform me how to do it right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.141.118.34 (talk) 17:33, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

 * *Do you have photo's or recordings which would confirm the dispersal?

No. I don't.

 * * Have you clarified why the protest was dispersed with the Vienesse authorites?

Yes. The man who read the paper (protesters have his number) said, that it is not a normal meeting, since there were fliers handed out and therefore the meeting should have been announced with the authorities, which obviously failed. I don't know.

Well, I understand that the rules of wikipedia do not allow a first hand report, and can understand if you move it meanwhile. The scientologists outnumbered true critics in Vienna, thus I have doubts that there will be someone, who does verify officially what I said. But probably one could ask the authorities, there were police officers in uniforms, and they have witnessed it. Probably you can talk to them, otherwise, forget about it. Ask for the uniformed. The ones in allday-suites are those who did not act correctly, so they might deny what I say. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.141.118.34 (talk) 17:47, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

ShakespeareFan00 17:36, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

 * have moved section to collab page - temporary - until it's veracity can be resolved. ShakespeareFan00 17:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

rss feeds
not sure if this is useful to your rss template, but you can make text rssy (or at least the old style of rssy icon) by putting stuff in the class rss. For example RSS or XML. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * responded on your talk page --Anonymous101 Talk 06:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * ok. p.s. I changed the variable from to  so that it works with usernames with spaces in them. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 07:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Admin status granted
Congratulations, you have just been made a sysop! You have volunteered for boring housekeeping activities which normal users sadly cannot participate in. Sysops basically can't do anything: They cannot delete pages arbitarily (only obvious junk like "jklasdfl,öasdf JOSH IS GAY"), they cannot protect pages in an edit war they are involved in, they cannot ban users except in cases of obvious vandalism or excessive edit warring (24-hour "cool down" ban). What they can do is delete junk as it appears, ban vandals, remove pages that have been listed on Deletion requests for more than a week, protect pages when asked to by other members, and help keep the few protected pages there are up to date.

Note that almost everything you can do can be undone, so don't be too worried about making mistakes. You will find more information on Administrators, please take a look before experimenting with your new powers. Drop me a message if there are any questions or if you want to stop being a sysop (could it be?). Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 21:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Congratulations! Theo Assen - (talk) 21:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Congrats! :)  Btw, one thing that'll make people extra happy with having you as an admin is if you occasionally help archive articles.  Brian didn't mention it specifically, but that's where the most admin work is.  But do pay attention to following the guide lines for that.   Nyarlathotep - (talk) 11:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikileaks story
I've added the EFF press release I got this morning to the talk of your article. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:07, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Anonymous101 Talk 09:13, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I've emailed the EFF lawyer and Erik Josefsson who StevenFruitsmaak and I met to see if I can get us a unique quote on this. Ideally something saying the bank shot themselves in the foot getting the site taken down and this reported on by - among others - the BBC. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

One thing
whats a wikicode. --~ --Transparent Blue - (talk) 19:48, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Player of the day
I've provided a basic summary regarding the criteria used for player of the day at Wikinews talk:Sports coverage. I hope this will dispel the belief that this is an opinionated selection. Please feel free to comment or ask questions. (→ Zachary ) 20:08, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Semi-Protection
Please consider unprotecting your user talk page. The current level of vandalism does not justify this and since it has all been from one IP address can be more effectively and appropriately dealt with my blocking the IP in question as I note you have done. If this was many IPs then I'd understand but this isn't such a big problem. Adambro - (talk) 16:38, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I will unprotect it but if the user continues vandalizing my talk page after his block finishes I will have to re-protect it.-- Anonymous101 (Talk) 16:41, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, if that happens I'd invite you to block this user again for a longer time period. I don't feel protection of the page can be justified based upon the vandalism of a single IP. Adambro - (talk) 16:47, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * This was written before your last message - But I think that he will probably vandalize my talk page as soon as his block expires (this has happened last time his block expired). Not that it was only semi-protected so the vast majority of users could still contact me. -- Anonymous101 (Talk) 16:47, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews Bulletin
 Anonymous101 (Talk) 21:25, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Good job. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks -- Anonymous101 (Talk) 21:42, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Trying to start a flame war on the waterboarding mess
This is 24.98.235.224 (currently on campus);

After seeing a bunch of emotion filled comments I decided to try to start an even nastier flame war in order to get some reasonable sources, with little success. I'll just like your opinion on Bush's latest radio address. He cites some specific examples, but is there any way to confirm them? A large part of the debate over torture is that it doesn't produce useful information as the victims will say anything to end their mistreatment.

That aside, the wikinews article itself seems to imply that Bush is supporting all sorts of nasty (already illegal) things other than waterboarding. (168.28.43.93 19:20, 10 March 2008 (UTC))

User:Anonymous101/Sandbox/PD Article
That page seems to imply you're checking them all by hand. Thats really something that should be done by a computer as doing it by hand must get rather boring. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:39, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Delivery of wikinews bulletin
Hey there. If you'd like I could write a bot to automatically deliver the bulletin. Let me know (here, ideally), Monobi - (talk) 02:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks i understand it now. --Transparent Blue 23:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

FYI
FYI, sent you an email just now. Cirt - (talk) 07:35, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sent again. Cirt - (talk) 07:38, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No, unrelated to that stuff. Cirt - (talk) 07:42, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sent again. Cirt - (talk) 07:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Self-Deletion of my interview
Followup Anonymous interview extraordinarily newsworthy. Deletion was gross error, implosion of journalistic integrity. (Moshe - (talk) 05:06, 15 March 2008 (UTC))
 * I agree it was newsworthy thats why I carries out the interview. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 06:12, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Is it too late to suggest that some of that deleted interview be appended to Church of Scientology denied injunction against Anonymous ? Cirt - (talk) 05:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, the article is over 24 hours old--Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 06:09, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, good point, I agree with you there. Cirt - (talk) 07:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Blocking of 198.151.202.175
It's not at all a problem to me. However, a second opinion may later be usefull to me on my block of User:Uga Man, which I suspect he will whine about when it expires. Could you check and inform me if you support, please? Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:37, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Thank you, I didn't fancy trying to fight my corner with him without support from another admin. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:45, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Welcome templates
Just a FYI, generally people who've registered an account and not yet edited don't get given the welcome template. This avoids the problem of putting up a nice message to someone who then goes on to be a vandal. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the information. (We do give nice messages to vandals anyway though - "thanks for experimenting with wikinews..." --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 15:42, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Wikinotizie

 * Note-The message I sent to Fabexplosive was:  ''Grazie per l'aiuto che mi ha con la traduzione Utente:Anonymous101  17:42, 17 mar 2007

My adminship
i have accepted it, many thanks for the nom :-) --Mark Talk to me 17:18, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks a lot for the awars you posted to my talk page. It is great to know stuff I do is being seen and apreciated! Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 07:25, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Duplicate.
I responded on my talk page --RoninBK - (talk) 18:25, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for reverting the vandalism to my talk page. -HamatoKameko - (talk) 06:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. By the way, I blocked the vandal as he keeps vandalizing talk pages. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 06:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks a lot!!! Best regards, --Baiji - (talk) 12:20, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Adding UK info to Moldava template (transferred from other page)
Why did you add UK logo to moldova template --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 12:16, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Refresh, to see the latest news ;) --Serhio - (talk) 12:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I've just noticed you reverted it. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 12:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Now, there is a Moldova image instead. --Serhio - (talk) 12:19, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * OK --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 12:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Featured picture
I think we should probably consider moving to separate featured pictures from those displayed in the news in pictures displayed on the main page. Since featured pictures should really be subject to a community discussion before being defined as such and this process doesn't fit in with the current idea of displaying a relevant image of a recent news event. In the current situation there is little value to declaring proudly that an image is featured because it doesn't mean anything more than one editor has decided to put it in news in pictures on the main page.

We might even wish to consider scrapping the whole concept of a WN featured picture altogether if it doesn't seem workable. Adambro - (talk) 16:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

 * "Featured" is a misnomer, the "News in pictures" header is more appropriate. It's just meant to make the front page more graphical and to promote photojournalism: consider renaming the template if you want to avoid further confusion. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 16:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Please note that I just used the Wikinews template name and moved it to commons with wikinews-en before it. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 17:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Dealing with talk page messages
Please don't spread identical discussions over multiple talk pages. Keep it in one place. If it is more appropriate to discuss it elsewhere then move it but delete it from the original location and link to the new location. Cheers. Adambro - (talk) 17:51, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, just some users prefer it if responses are found at their talk page --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 18:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * People should be adding pages where they leave comments to their watchlist really to avoid this issue. In some circumstances it might be appropriate to leave a message saying that a reply has been made in the original location in case the page isn't being watched. Adambro - (talk) 18:09, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * OK. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 18:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

source
I didn't recognize that I was required to give you the source. when I was sent this, I gave a link on the article page a link to where this and others like it could be seen, which is here. I stated that the picture was part of the irin copyrights, but I only did this because I couldn't find a copyright that fit my circumstances —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danthemango (talk • contribs) 03:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Found it here. Licence is CC-BY-ND so not permitted. Adambro - (talk) 06:21, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I suggest we keep it under cc-by-nd until the Undeletion request is over. Otherwise, some users will probably complain about the deletion.--Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 06:23, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I changed the CC liscense, so hopefully you can use it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.68.214 (talk) 02:56, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Your request
Re your request on en:WP yes, no problem. Will have to be next week at earliest though due to prior commitments. --AlisonW - (talk) 21:52, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments
please post comments here. Thanks --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 17:46, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I am 12.152.160.239. Would have signed up before posting, but my laptop was having issues. Crasheddata - (talk) 16:43, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Response to block warning
do you think i care? Preceding unsigned comment by

Thank You
Thank you very much. I was actually kidnaped when I was 11, so when I hear of Amber Alearts I just try to do all that I can to help. Crasheddata - (talk) 17:20, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Missing Utah girl found dead
Unfortunately she was found dead. I am not sure how to transfer the article over to a new title or anything. Thanks Crasheddata - (talk) 05:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

MNF-I articles
Hi, I have seen your articles which were written largely from MNF-I press releases. Is this an expirement? While you do correctly attribute all the claims to the press-release, the resulting articles are rather single-point-of-view. "Iraq" among all others stands at the forefront of world newscoverage and we need not write articles from this narrow POV. While I encourage you to include the direct source of the MNF-I in articles (which main-stream media rarely does), I strongly suggest that you also include other sources as they are abudant. Please broaden the coverage. --SVTCobra 01:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I try to include other sources and will make sure I do in the future. --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 06:39, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Archiving of Scientology protest group celebrates founder's birthday worldwide
When you archived the Scientology protest article, you removed a whole section from the article about the Portland, Oregon protest. It was published in the article on March 17 (the article itself was published March 15, which is two days), I think that probably would've been okay to stay. Also, a gallery of pictures taken by User:Rankun was credited to User:TUFKAAP accidentally. The photographer tried to correct this mistake, but the edit was reverted and they were given a talk page notice about late edits. There was also some copy edits and npov changes that were removed, I think you should note that not all late edits to an article are bad. The main rule is just make sure they don't add information that wasn't available at the time of publication. (→ Zachary ) 07:39, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Former Featured Pic Template and category removal....
If the Template:Wikinews NIP is unusable and replaced by proper Template:News in pictures, should Category:Featured pictures and its linked pages, templates be deleted? Brock contact... 02:36, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox
Hi,

this template is unused because it is used for quick creation of infoboxes. For some reason, the category parameter doesn't fill. You just need to TOPIC and then correct it manually.

--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:11, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Checkuser
You should use this form to request checkuser: Requests for CheckUser. All requests are archived. --SVTCobra 17:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Gordon Brown makes speech as part of Labour Party conference
Hi A101. I was doing some archiving today and came across Gordon Brown makes speech as part of Labour Party conference. I had trouble finding substantiation for your Original Reporting. I 'googled' all kinds of search terms but couldn't find the speech anywhere. Your notes say it was a telecast, do you remember what network it was? Any help would be appreciated. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * hmm i know this isnt really my place to butt in but.... this good enough? got it first result on first search....--Mark Talk to me 22:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Network=BBC Parliament. Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 06:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you both, that'll do just fine. BTW, I see you have on this page. Isn't it easier to respond to messages if you can edit just that section? Cheers, --SVTCobra 12:49, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

How can I be a admin.--165.138.77.201 17:05, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Get a user account and become at trusted member of the Wikinews community A101 - (talk) 17:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

 * Thanks for telling me for the Wikicode thingy is. Blood Lines of Darkness ( Talk to me | My Contribs ) 01:36, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Interviews
Hi, sorry, but at the moment I am sorting things out under my real name. What I would advise - what I should be doing - is that you operate under a false name. Certainly in the UK (where abouts are you?) we have the right to use alternative names to our legal names; this is probably the same accross much of the world and so long as you tell the police should they ask it should all be legal. Sorry I can't be of more assistance. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:31, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I've just double checked it (I'm related to a lawyer) and there are certainly no catches here in the UK. Good luck if you decide to do this. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:37, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thanks very much for your kind welcome message! It's because of people like you that wikimedia sites are so wonderful. --Wolf m corcoran - (talk) 13:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

YouTube accounts of Scientology critics suspended
The article was just published recently. Would it be possible to hold off on WN:FAC on this one, perhaps until after the article has been archived? Cirt - (talk) 07:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The pope article managed to be nominated before archival but feel free to take down the nomination temporarily if you wish.--A101 - (talk) 07:21, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks, I removed the nom - but feel free to renom after the article is archived at some point. Cirt - (talk) 07:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Article
Thanks and thank you also for the warm welcome. Harris Morgan - (talk) 20:45, 18 April 2008 (UTC).

Hey
Can you pop on irc? Want to chat about some Africa stuff. Cirt - (talk) 08:30, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Full quote
I don't think we should have the full quote in the article. The Los Angeles Times omitted it, and did not have that list of all those individuals who were threatened. I think that is a bit much. Cirt - (talk) 13:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually this information was oversighted on Wikipedia, and should be oversighted here too. Cirt - (talk) 13:48, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it provides the reader with info which will help in the understanding of the event.  --A101 - (talk) 13:54, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it is a safety issue, these are private, non-public individuals whose names do not need to be publicized in the media. Cirt - (talk) 13:55, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Victims of serious attacks always have all ovewr the media.Marke seems to agree with you--A101 - (talk) 13:58, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree that having the names of the students is too much, but I think the threat's mention of "a good majority of the badminton team, and almost every single fob" is significant enough to be included. ~Planoneck~ 14:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay that was also in the Los Angeles Times, I will add that. Cirt - (talk) 14:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

FYI
Heads up if you haven't noticed, but an Anon-IP nominated your article for deletion. Cirt - (talk) 08:19, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

RE deletion
I am not blaming just you. I am just upset that we have a process set aside for all this and IMHO not a single one was followed by anyone who was participating in the DR or otherwise. If it was not news, then it should have been tagged as such or it should have not been published. I admit I don't know your reason for wanting it deleted and would like to know why if you are willing to say. I just find it hard to believe that a good contributer like you would suddenly want it deleted without saying why. Is everything ok?
 * I cannot just blame you because other admins were fully aware of what was going on. They were as much responsible as you or I. It is news worthy and is legit. But because a few new users, or anon users who comment on it not being real does not men its not. It also does not mean its not news. With the exception of the anon who nominated it for DR, all others who commented on it were new people. I thought it was a good article and I in now way doubted your reporting. I get discouraged too when I get bad comments or otherwise on what I wrote. But I also know that i took the time to make sure what i was writing about was accurate based on available information. If it, weeks or days later turned out to be false then I am willing to accept defeat. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 20:31, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I must say I disagree with DragonFire. I don't think it was newsworthy, but then, I hardly consider Scientology's donation of 18 books about Scientology to a library newsworthy, either. 75.15.204.227 08:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your support, your trust in me, and your nomination. As an aside, with regard to the deletion thing, I think the article should stay/be kept - but I also think you are a valued contributor here and I hope that you are doing okay. Cirt - (talk) 07:26, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. I'll look to you for advice and as questions may crop up about the tools. Cirt - (talk) 15:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
And no problem! btw, your header disclaimer is horrible in FF2; over-lapping txt. -  Amgine | sw 16:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

TY
ANON101 --71.254.97.20 16:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Anon101
plane instead of plain needed in lead article 1 just wanted you to know. --71.254.97.20 16:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC) still there just to let you know again --71.254.97.20 17:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed --A101 - (talk) 17:28, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Deleted
I just deleted it, as it was a blatant copyvio. Cirt - (talk) 17:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It is usually preferred to keep copyvio pages for a couple of days. --A101 - (talk) 17:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, this should not have been restored, not only is it a blatant copyvio, and also advertising/spam, as per Speedy deletion guidelines, but it is also from December 2007, not even news. No need to wait any length of time before deleting, as it fits multiple different criteria from Speedy deletion guidelines Cirt - (talk) 17:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It fits both points (6) and (11) from Speedy deletion guidelines, of the few, limited, cases where admins can delete Wikinews pages "on sight". Cirt - (talk) 17:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Even blatant copyvios are usually kept for a few days, even though policy alllows them to be kept and as it was basically a press release it should be kept, IMO, to allow for a rewrite. --A101 - (talk) 17:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It is usually standard pratice to keep these types of article (marked as copyvio) to allow for a rewrite. However, as oplicy allows it, feel free to redelte it. --A101 - (talk) 17:06, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If something that satisfies not one but two points from Speedy deletion guidelines, the page that expressly lays out the few cases where pages can be deleted "on sight", but you feel that even in the case where two criteria are satisfied - then what is the point of even having Speedy deletion guidelines ? Cirt - (talk) 17:06, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Based on most previous cases like this I am saying it may want to be restored, although, I have no problem with you deleting it/ --A101 - (talk) 17:08, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * However, after realising its age I agree that there is not point in giving it time to be rewrittern. So, please delete it --A101 - (talk) 17:08, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion guidelines:
 * There are a few, limited, cases where admins can delete Wikinews pages "on sight".
 * 6. - Advertising or spam.
 * 11. - An obvious copyright violation that is a cut-and-paste exact or near-exact duplicate of content from a copyrighted source.

And, in addition, the "news" was from December 2007. Seems pretty cut and dry to me. Cirt - (talk) 17:09, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Please see my above comment. I know the guidlines, I am just saying that even direct copy/paste copyvios or press releases are often kept (with page marked as copyvio to allow time for rewrite. However, after realising its age I agree that there is not point in giving it time to be rewrittern. So, please delete it. --A101 - (talk) 17:11, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

✅, deleted Record 2007 Texas Personal Injury Verdict, again, per your request to delete it, above. Cirt - (talk) 17:11, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Clarify
If, in your opinion, points 6 and 11 by themselves, without the fact that the article was also a blatant copyvio about something from December 2007, is not enough to satisfy speedy deletion, then in your opinion should those points just be removed from WN:SD? If not, then please clarify in what circumstances you do support speedy deletion? Cirt - (talk) 17:13, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * To me it just seemed like a press release which is a blantant copyvio and advertsing. Usually press releases are kept for two days before deletion. --A101 - (talk) 17:15, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

DO you want to discuss this on IRC as it would be easier to talk in real time then. --A101 - (talk) 17:17, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Obama wins South Carolina primary - Thanks, must've missed that there were different dates on that one. The others recently archived should be fine. Cirt - (talk) 20:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I know, I just messaged you about that. :)  Cirt - (talk) 20:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, both the messages were written at about the same time. --A101 - (talk) 20:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

FYI I just went back and triple-checked all the ones I recently archived, there was one other minor reordering but that was all. :) Cirt - (talk) 20:06, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Great, by the way good work on the archiving . --A101 - (talk) 20:06, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I am next going to work my way slowly up from January 30 to present, providing no one else gets to those first.  Cirt - (talk) 20:07, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I am working from January 1 - Jan 30. By the way, if the list ever becomes empty, feel free to update the page (Probably by using find/replace in a word processor to change the dpl)--A101 - (talk) 20:12, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay sounds good. FYI you might want to post a link to your subpage at the thread at WN:AAA -  was asking about something like that.  Cirt - (talk) 20:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, posted at AAA. If you want a shorter page, I have just created User talk:Anonymous101/Template:Archive which automatically lists one unarchived article --A101 - (talk) 20:20, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hrm, posted same response at AAA, both appear to list most recent published unarchived article(s), not oldest? Cirt - (talk) 20:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

FYI, um, you just archived/protected something from today: Lahm's contract offer withdrawn; Schlaudraff to Hannover. Cirt - (talk) 20:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I know, corrected it, dpl seems to have changed recently :( --A101 - (talk) 20:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, might want to fix the dpl somehow in those 2 places too. Cirt - (talk) 20:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * FIxed --A101 - (talk) 20:29, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Georgian spy plane shot down
Maybe it is just me, but I think before a story is made the main lead, it should be better developed than this was. Keep up your contributions, I think you start more stories than anyone. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, except for beaking news like that. Thanks for expanding it. --A101 - (talk) 06:35, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It wasn't breaking. It happened Sunday the 20th. BBC has had the video up since Monday the 21st. --SVTCobra 10:14, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That particular update the the article was focusing on was breaking --A101 - (talk) 14:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

January 2008
FYI - Not sure where you had gotten up to w/ early January, but January 16 through 31 are all now archived (not all by me, but I did a bunch). Cirt - (talk) 16:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Update
Re: Talk:California student arrested in criminal threats made on Wikipedia, I have been compiling sources there, and also got an interview with w:User:JohnReaves, so I will be working on getting that all together in a few hours. After I have it up, if you want to also add the bit you got from w:User:Dreadstar, that'd be great. Cirt - (talk) 01:07, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately all my email disappeared from my inbox but I've contacted Dreadstar to ask for anotehr copt. --A101 - (talk) 06:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Working on it now, will post/save it soon. Cirt - (talk) 06:49, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Are you still around? I am on IRC. Cirt - (talk) 07:54, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about losing the quote. I should have printed the email so this wouldn't happen. --A101 - (talk) 15:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No prob. At this point I think we'll just leave it as a stand-alone interview w/ the one admin. Cirt - (talk) 15:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Zirkle
That's fine. JoshuaZ - (talk) 21:04, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Welcome
Don't you talk to me, you misspelling, plethoric, inaccurate bozo! Your single positive attribute is that you start lots of articles - but what I cannot understand is why so many people celebrate this despite the fact the quality of those articles is far beyond what should be the norm! --78.151.101.91 00:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * inaccurate? I have seen you correct one small mistake. --A101 - (talk) 07:14, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Category:Adolf Hitler
Thanks for helping get rid of the cat. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:11, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. --A101 - (talk) 20:12, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Archive
There is older unarchived stuff also, listed now at the bottom of WN:ARCHIVE. :) Cirt - (talk) 20:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks --A101 - (talk) 06:06, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Copy of handbook for leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints obtained by Wikinews
Respectfully request that you undo your last edit. Not proper to list a (previously published) article as abandoned, especially while it is currently undergoing a Deletion request discussion, with opinions on both sides of the matter being hashed out. Cirt - (talk) 17:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, but it might as well be deleted anyway as it is way too old to be published now. --A101 - (talk) 17:48, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It was already published, that is the point. Once the WN:DR is completed, if the consensus is Keep, it should just be republished w/ the original publish date, and archived.  It would be different if it was never published in the first place.  Cirt - (talk) 17:49, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, by the way, shouldn't the DR be closed as it has been open for over a week. I would close it but I created the article.--A101 - (talk) 17:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. I would close it but I commented with a "Keep" sentiment in the discussion. So far the deletion request (started by an Anon-IP by the way, which I thought was not allowed under the new changes to WN:DR per consensus that new users can't vote, from discussion at Water_cooler/policy) has 5 Keeps, 3 Removes, and some comments. Cirt - (talk) 17:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * My take on that would be that the consensus is actually something like No consensus, leaning towards Keep. Cirt - (talk) 17:58, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Your rename request on the English Wikipedia
You have recently requested that your account on the English Wikipedia be renamed to that reserved for your global login. I was unable to complete this request due to bug 13507. A steward can undo the unification of your login, which will allow this rename to be performed. You can then once again unify your global login once any local renames you need are completed. If you still want me to rename you on the English Wikipedia, please request that your global account is deleted at SR/SUL, and (once this has been done) let me know either by commenting on your request or leaving me a note on my enwiki talkpage. If you no longer want that account renamed, could you also get in touch so I know that you don't need me to take any further action. WJBscribe - (talk) 20:03, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

WN:A
I have responsded at my Rfa, thanks for your concideration.--Ryan524 - (talk) 16:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice
Thanks for your help. I have added photos to my article. So far, the only source is the one I cited, bu tthis is a very reliable one. Probably there will be more sources in the morning, but by then it will be old news.--Poetlister - (talk) 21:30, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Research shows that bats cry to detect prey
Please see article's talk page. Cirt - (talk) 19:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If you are going to add additional sources to that article, might help to add some material to the article, sourced to those new sources. Doesn't do much good to just plop them down at the bottom. :)  Cirt - (talk) 20:40, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Retraction
Yes, I do. I reckon we should modify the box from 'may be' to 'has been' as there is now solid evidence disproving the story. Thanks for getting to it, though. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:36, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

WN:TO-DO
I have started WN:TO-DO as a place to list what should be daily or weekly points to check for regular contributors. Some parts are admin-only (e.g. Archiving) but others are things that anyone can get involved with. Feel free to add additional points and spread the word about this shortcut to get people helping do Wikignome tasks. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:49, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: RfA and AR
I am no longer seeking Accreditation, and their is no point leaving the Rfa on the templates as voting is closed, the election just hasn't been certified so to speak...lol.--Ryan524 - (talk) 22:05, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Myanmar criticised for hampering aid
I am done - you may expand it. --SVTCobra 15:08, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Welcome Back
Sadly, I'm not exactly "back", so I would not like control of AW. I will however be doing Audio Newsbreifs for the next 2 weeks (starting Monday), and who knows after that. But thank you for the welcome. It's nice to talk to old friends. --Munchkinguy - (talk) 02:33, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

rfdas
hehe no problem, i know there was a big huge list there :-p --Mark Talk to me 17:19, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Archiving drive
Before you get ahead of yourself, please see this diff of archiving edits that should have been made per WN:ARCHIVE to Britain expects troops out of Iraq within next 4 years. We must not rush, but rather be dilligent and do it right. --SVTCobra 20:43, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Australian Greens senator Bob Brown marks 10 years in Parliament was better, but not perfect (mine might not be perfect either). I made several changes see this diff. One thing that I noticed in both articles were the blank lines between sources and the lack of local links. --SVTCobra 21:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Another example: diff for Researchers say Ozone Hole "likely to contract, may disappear". Cheers, --SVTCobra 21:23, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

2007/08 Turkcell Super League: Galatasaray vs. Fenerbahçe
I can't see which of the SD criteria this falls under. As youu nominated it, would you mind explaining Anonymous101  14:52, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree that is not on WN:SDG but on the other hand, we cannot publish news that is this old, and I'd hate to have to go through and entire WN:DR everytime this happens. Perhaps, we need to add this as a valid reason for speedy, what do you think? --SVTCobra 14:59, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Kuwait, late emir.
Thanks for your comments, i started the page before i registered an account. I wanted people to know, because it started out as a rumor and people were unsure if there was any truth behind it. My ultimate goal is to get the news up on the main wikipedia news section. Thanks :)
 * Could you please change the pic on the main page for lead article 4, i have submitted an image that is available on the main article itself. thanks Aalsaleh (talk) 22:58, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

My RFA
I am, once again, putting myself up for Rfa. I would appriciate it if you could stop by My RFA and vote. Wheter support or oppose I would appriciate your vote to avoid another situation of having too few votes.-Ryan524 (talk) 23:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

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Archive 1 - Archive 2 - Archive 3

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User talk:Shahin

Hi, I've noticed you have recreated some previously deleted articles, and created many articles that are just sources. Wikinews articles have to be full articles. They have to at the very least address the who what why where when and how of the event. Articles that are just a source link will be deleted. If you continue to recreate deleted articles, you will be blocked from editing.

Thank you for your understanding. Bawolff ☺☻ 20:51, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

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Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! Bawolff ☺☻ 20:51, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
 * Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced
 * Introduction - overview of the site
 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
 * Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
 * Style guide - how articles should look before publishing
 * Contents - the contents page.
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
 * Audio Wikinews could always use more contributors
 * And of course, stories need writing!

Old news
Hello, please do not create "old news" for Wikinews. Please contribute new stories only. Thanks, and again, welcome. --SVTCobra 12:52, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

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Two found dead at Norway Rock Festival

July 13, 2008 Two people have been found dead by police at Norway Rock Festival in Kvinesdal. They were on or near a bus that six to eight others were found outside and hospitalized. It is thought that the deaths were due to carbon monoxide poisoning.

"We do not know exactly how they died, but we assume they suffocated on fumes while they were on the bus," said a police spokesperson. The deceased are believed to have been an unmarried couple with three children, and all the victims are thought to be Norwegians aged in the 20s and 30s. No names have been released.

"It seems they all inhaled what could have been exhaust fumes," commented Enoksen. He added that the lives of the others are thought to be safe.

The festival, established in 2006, continued as normal. Alice Cooper, Motörhead and The Quireboys were all performing at the event.

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User talk:Soudiata

Rufin Maliko et Collegues pillent-ils la BEAC?
L'argent de la BEAC serait-il dilapide' par Rufin Maliko (comme tous les autres le font) Une activite' suspecte serait les causes de son proces en Afrique du Sud: Rufin Simplice Maliko vs Pure Platinum Property Holdings Limited(voir civil trials http://www.capegateway.gov.za/xho/pubs/public_info/C/135283/3 )

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MUFON releases report on UFO sighting in Stephenville, Texas

July 18, 2008

On January 8, 2008 in Stephenville, Texas, one of the larger UFO sightings in the United States occurred. A few days ago the UFO investigative organization Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) released a 77-page report on the sighting. MUFON is a UFO investigative organization in the United States. Founded in 1969, it now has 3,000 members and is headquartered in Fort Collins, Colorado.

The MUFON report, entitled "Special Research Report Stephenville, Texas" was written by Glen Schulze and Ropert Powell. Shulze has radar experience from working at the White Sands Missile Range. Powell has a chemistry degree and has extensive experience with semiconductors from working for Advanced Micro Devices.

The report is an analysis of radar records from the Federal Aviation Administration and the National Weather Service, obtained through several Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests, and comparing them to witness accounts.

Shulze/Powell concluded that the radar data confirms the witness observations of an object, as well as the Air Force's statement that said ten aircraft were operating in the area. They say that it is too difficult to say what the witnesses saw, but that there was something there. Twice, they say, radar picked up an object travelling at nearly 2,000 mph, and at other times it showed a slow moving object. Much media attention has been focused on the report's observation that radar records show one of two objects moving directly toward the Prairie Chapel Ranch in Crawford. This is the home of United States President George W. Bush, which has been nicknamed the Western White House. They did not draw any conclusion as to why such movement was observed.

The authors also concluded that military air activity was heavy at the time, but that the radar records show no overt action toward the unknown object. They express concern about the possibilty that this could have been a terrorist aircraft with no transponder.

Shulze/Powell stated that they felt that they had been stonewalled in some of their FOIA requests by some government agencies. They encouraged the government to more readily provide more information about the incident.

The Stephenville incident on January 8, saw dozens of witnesses reporting a large object in the evening sky that hovered above the community before it took off at high speed. Steve Allen, a pilot, observed the object from the ground and described it as being a half-mile with flashing strobe lights. He also said that it was pursued by two fighter jets, when it disappeared at a speed he estimated to be 3,000 mph.

"I don't know if it was a biblical experience or somebody from a different universe or whatever but it was definitely not from around these parts," Allen said.

Another witness was local law enforcement officer Leroy Gateman who reported it as a red glowing object suspended 3,000 feet in the air. "It was so fast I couldn't track it with my binoculars," said Gateman.

Rick Sorrells says he saw the object while deer hunting in the woods. "You look at the trees, and it was right here," he told ABC News. He estimated it to be the length of "three or four football fields," though he could not be entirely sure due to his vantage point.

Sorrells has later claimed that military helicopters have since overflown his property at low altitude and that he has been getting strange phone calls. He also claims that an unknown man came to his door, even once told him that,"Son we have the same caliber weapons you have, but we have more of them.", after Sorrells grabbed his rifle, and, "You need to shut your mouth about what you saw."

"I'm trying to decide whether or not to open the door," Sorrells said to the Empire-Tribune. "We're just standing there face to face looking at each other. I'm thinking he's dressed for the elements and the dogs are raising such a ruckus he must know he's in danger of being caught. That's when I realized he wanted me to see him." The man then turned away and walked into the woods.

The United States Air Force initially said witnesses must have seen reflections coming from commercial airliners. However, they later clarified that ten F-16 Fighting Falcons had been on a night-time training mission in the area on January 8.

"In the interest of public awareness, Air Force Reserve Command Public Affairs realized an error was made regarding the reported training activity of military aircraft," said the statement.

According to Air Force spokesperson Karl Lewis, the aircraft were from the 457th Fighter Squadron and the error in the initial report was due to an internal communications problem between offices at the base.


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Can I get some HELP here?65.173.105.27 06:39, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I'm not all that good at the whole writing articles thing, but how can i help? (also try WN:IRC). Bawolff ☺☻ 07:25, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Somethings i'm unsure of:

Hopefully someone will come along that actually knows what they are talking about (unlike me), so they can tell us if the article is ok or not. Bawolff ☺☻ 08:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It appears that the report was released on july 4. (according to the date on the footer of the 77 page pdf). That could make this somewhat dated
 * The sources are somewhat similar in that they are all based on the same report. I'm not sure if there distinct enough
 * last source in list is dead link, but i don't think it'd be needed anyways
 * Bawolff asked me to have a look - sorry I didn't respond quicker but I was out fixing a sick PC.
 * The key concern is how credible are the sources? I just read the MUFON article on Wikipedia, that just existing is something that is a good indicator that reports from them are relatively credible. If you'd like to start a new section here and give some background on the other sources that might be really useful, I believe we have quite a few people who are curious about UFOs, but nobody who has really looked into it in depth.
 * One detail is that - if possible - the title should be shortened. IP editors and new contributors can't rename articles, so post some suggestions. It has to be renamed anyway because 'camel case' is disallowed by the style guide. As a first suggestion, MUFON releases Stephenville, US UFO reports, claims government intimidation of witnesses. An edit to explain the MUFON acronym in the opening paragraph would compliment that nicely and deal with people reading the headline and going, "What is MUFON?". --Brian McNeil / talk 11:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * MUFON acronym explained. You have to fix that title.65.173.105.27 21:23, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

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I looked at this a little bit. It currently has major problems. Journalistically there is a major failure to a) state when this occurred b) describe who observed the alleged UFOs, besides the analysis of radar data.

Neutrality-wise there are also problems. Why are credible sources, such as ABC news being omitted? Why are there no statements included from the government when MUFON (and others) did get responses from them? Why are there no details to support the claim of government indimidation, other than referring to it vaguely as publically stating that the people are "nuts", mentally ill is a good tactical means of ridiculing someone? Why can I not find this alleged government intimidation in the MUFON report, even though both the title and the article say it is in the report? (If it is in there please give me a page number ... I searched for multiple key-words and looked at the table-of-contents and executive summary.)

Cheers, --SVTCobra 21:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

 * The American Chronicle claims intimidation, as does a UFO Casebook source. Will place the ABC source.65.173.105.27 22:05, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * So why is it attributed to the MUFON report? --SVTCobra 22:33, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Have to check the UFO Casebook ref on that. The guy who wrote that claimed that he or someone else was intimidated, its also indicated in the American Chronicle link as well about govt. intimidation.65.173.105.27 23:27, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * He claimed (See 2nd source in Sources) that he was intimidated by the Feds because he reported a UFO had been seen over the Bush Crawford Ranch, and that his own speculation would cause the people to distrust the govt.(like that is'nt happening already) and scare the hell out of the people.65.173.105.27 23:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Claims are in Paragraph 1 and paragraph 2, in which he claims a govt. agency made him remove said matter.65.173.105.27 23:39, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Too bad he did not state which govt. agency.65.173.105.27 23:41, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not accurate. He (UFO Casebook) stated: "I was told to remove this page from the Internet. The reason given was that the information and theory might cause 'public panic, and public distrust in our government.'" It mentions no intimidation other than an irrational fear that he might "lose my entire web site", a fear that he appears to have overcome since he put it back up. It is not much more than a link to the MUFON report. Furthermore, and importantly it does not explain why the claims of government intimidation in the Wikinews article are attributing these claims to the MUFON report. It is not in the report. --SVTCobra 23:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

 * The UFO Incident itself started on Jan. 8, 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.173.105.27 (talk) 22:13, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * So why is it not in the article?
 * Placed.65.173.105.27 23:33, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

 * The Feds contacted them?!(MUFON ?!) Where are these sources?65.173.105.27 22:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No and Yes, they replied to FOIA requests. The MUFON report says Carswell Air Force Base responded "We have found no records responsive to your request" (page 6). Pages 10 and 11 have additional responses by the government. The ABC source also has govt statements. --SVTCobra 22:29, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * ABC News link placed. May place a related link about a UFO that flew over my area while this was going on. In that, a local news crew got a video of a HUGE ship, and Barksdale AFB's Base Commander refused to examine that tape.65.173.105.27 23:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That has also fueled conspiracy theories as well.65.173.105.27 23:47, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Here is that tape:

 * - UFO from Stephenville caught over Shreveport, LA. 65.173.105.27 04:06, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

*sighs* I find it odd that every alien always chooses to hover over populated areas at night, with bright lights shining downward. If they don't want to be identified or seen, why are they shining spotlights down? If they don't care if they are seen, why do they never do that kind of thing during the day? Given how close we are to *real* optical cloaking tech, you'd think that any aliens who were capable of interstellar travel would be able to utilize such tech. The fact that they always show up at night under bad visual conditions is either a massive coincidence, or a giant joke on their part. Or, you know, they might not be aliens at all.

You know, one time I saw a group of UFOs. They were flying in a V-shape. It was night. They were moving quite quickly over the sky, and seemed to be very high up, and very large. They were glowing brightly in a kind of orangish colour. And if I hadn't heard them start honking as they went overhead, I'd probably had thought they were aliens. Cause they LOOKED like aircraft, or spacecraft. Always remember that your brain does a huge *huge* huge amount of post-processing on the visual data it takes in in order to make sense of it. If there are no background objects to compare something with, something that is close, small, and moving slowly will appear exactly the same as something that is far away, large, and zooming along.

Lastly, before you say "I hate sceptics!!!111one11You don't want to believe!1!!", let me say that I DO want to believe, as do most other sceptics. If we didn't want to believe, then we wouldn't take the time to review the evidence. Unfortunately the data up to this point does not in any way support the conclusion that there are aliens around or on Earth. That makes me sad. I wish it did. I wait for the day when some evidence... any evidence... will appear that is even halfway reasonable. But that day hasn't yet come.

All that said, both this article and its sources are heavily biased nonsense. Using twisted primetime *entertainment news* as a source isn't exactly my idea of a reliable source, nor is using press releases from people who want to believe in aliens so badly that they will ignore any rational explanation for what little data they gather, and instead jump to unsustainable, unprovable conclusions. Gopher65talk 04:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Geese don't glow in the dark. That is why (not me) some people laugh at skeptics. Also, some of those people carry guns, and one witness who has claimed that he was harrassed, talked about shooting someone, then the other guy said that his side had more guns than he did. IF ET is'nt for real, why the harrassment, and if they're ours, why do we not use them to dictate policy to the whole planet, and make gasoline $0.05 a gallon instead of it being $5.00 a gallon? 65.173.105.27 04:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ships like that do make a great weapons platform, to carry on one that is even 1mi by 0.5 mi in diameter, you'll need countless heavy machine guns, anti aircraft missiles, anti-missile missiles, rocket platforms, even countless heavy cannon, even countless nuclear armed (tactical nukes) missiles, etc. pending on ship size. With weapons platforms like that, and if the US was one of those conquering militaristic states, like Rome or Nazi Germany, NO ONE anywhere,anytime will oppose the US.65.173.105.27 05:07, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

 * *Jawdrops* Your ignorance is astounding. Of course they don't glow in the dark. They REFLECT city lights off their undersides, just like clouds do. I've SEEN it happen, on more than one occasion. And man do they ever look like UFOs (well, they *are* UFOs if you don't know what they are;)). This is why sceptics laugh at conspiracy theorists. You don't bother thinking before you flip your imaginations into high gear and start spitting out nonsense (like this article). Gopher65talk 21:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Check out the primary sources.65.173.105.27 22:19, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Strange things going on here
Been getting "401" errors, worse on some, if not most originating sources. Someone accessing these may assume that something is going on. still hunting other sources.65.173.105.27 21:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've been getting weird 401s all day. There is probably a main router down somewhere today.Gopher65talk 21:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Still after sources, incl. primary/originating sources.65.173.105.27 22:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

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Is this article ready for release? (Got into a "Edit Conflict.)65.173.105.27 23:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I haven't followed the latest, but the article still claims that allegations of government intimidation are within the MUFON report, which they are not. So from that alone, no it is not ready. The sources are also not formatted properly and there are more sources than content. Unused sources should not be listed. --SVTCobra 23:38, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

 * How can that be fixed w/o making a mess?65.173.105.27 23:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Sentences like The MUFON reports claim that witnesses and investigators have been and are being intimidated by the US Govt. should be rewritten or removed. The article title also needs to be changed. --SVTCobra 23:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you fix that? IPS cannot.65.173.105.27 01:22, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

 * I can edit and rename the article, but if you are seriously asking me to do so, I will make all edits that I feel are necessary, not just the ones that you like. You might end up calling me a member of The Men in Black or a government stooge. My help comes all or none. Either way, it will not be tonight, so think about it. --SVTCobra 01:41, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Go for it. The main gist of it is that witnesses report govt. intimidation, as seen in multiple sources, one or more UFOs have flown over President Bush's Ranch, that something strange went on at Stephenville, as stated in multiple sources. Really, go for it.65.173.105.27 01:52, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Time for article Release yet?
Is it time to release it?65.173.104.138 04:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The sources need to be formated with source first. Anonymous101 (talk) 14:57, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * There! I have done it. It has been moved to ready. After review it may be published. --SVTCobra 01:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Damn fine job. 65.173.104.138 07:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent. Much improved. Gopher65talk 18:20, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Can we get this published now?!
Read it, so, can we get this published? 65.173.104.138 21:24, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It has been published over 4 hours now. --SVTCobra 21:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * If you don't see it on the front page, hit the Refresh link to purge your cache. --SVTCobra 21:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. 65.173.104.138 22:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia article
Can someone place this news item on the Wikipedia article, Stephenville, Texas ?65.173.104.138 22:16, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. 65.173.104.138 22:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed that one. Thanks. 65.173.104.138 22:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

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Puh, this is one article bearing the signs of amateur journalism. All the silly little dramatic insinuations - makes me feel like vomitting. Anyway,

"I'm trying to decide whether or not to open the door, (are you? really? why?)''" Sorrells said to the Empire-Tribune. "We're just standing there face to face looking at each other (did Clint Eastwood feature in this movie?). I'm thinking he's dressed for the elements and the dogs are raising such a ruckus (and pa is humping ma in the barn together with uncle Ted and sissy?) he must know he's in danger of being caught (by whom?? what for? what did he do?). That's when I realized he wanted me to see him. (a man comes to your door and you reason he wants to see you - thats good thinking)" The man then turned away and walked into the woods. ''(back to home to fill Wikipedia with UFO conspiracies...?)

Can we have an English translation for this man? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.89.0.118 (talk) 07:16, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

 * I live in Texas. "You" threaten someone in Texas, you will get shot. This alleged military officer or soldier did just that to Sorrells, so Sorrells got his rifle, and all hell nearly broke loose. Simple enough English for you?!65.173.104.138 08:20, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want to see a UFO incident in which people shot at aliens, See the Wikipedia article Kelly Hopkinsville UFO Incident. By the way that hillbilly joke does not apply to Texans at all.65.173.104.138 08:24, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

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 * Fixed it myself by using link [sic] . Van der Hoorn (talk) 23:56, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


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You have no two heads but you profit from millions of nigerians' heads... I learnt you amassed so much wealth and that is why you were declared wanted. I heard so much about you - not a single news has captured you as a man of the people. How did you make it to power - how did you get a single vote?

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Thirteen people are missing from a boat believed to have sunk off Madagascar's Sainte Marie island on Thursday. Several Chinese people were on board, as well as some from Madagascar. Two crewmembers are safely rescued.

There appears to be one man from the Chinese mainland on board. Xinhua reports that there are also eight from Taiwan, and all are businessmen. In addition there are four crewmembers left, with two others rescued. The crew were all locals.

The boat had left Sainte Marie to travel 100km North to Masoala so that the businessmen could inspect some fishery assets. According to what Xinhua described as "a reliable source" at around 8:40 p.m. (1740 GMT) the vessel dropped anchor for reasons unknown about 20km from the coast. It is also reported the ship's engine had failed and she was taking on water.

It is known that at around 12:40 a.m. Friday (2140 GMT Thursday) Liu Shouzhi, one of the Taiwanese on board, called his wife. He told her that the ship was in danger of capsizing due to strong winds. Contact with the vessel was lost shortly after.

According to the rescued crewmembers, who were picked up on Saturday morning, those on board the ship had abandoned her in two groups. All of them had life jackets on at the time. They reported the ship could carry thirty passengers.

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The number of missing is from the older source. Wouldn't it make sense that newer one is more accurate? --SVTCobra 12:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

 * I got confused at first, too. I thought the sources contradicted. One source concentrates on the Chinese citizens as it is a Chinese source, but both actually give the same number as missing - nine Chinese (eight from Taiwan), four Madagascan crew, two more crew rescued. It took some careful reading to see it, though. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:38, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

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July 15, 2008 On Sunday, nine United States troops were killed in Afghanistan after Taliban militants attacked an outpost in the Kunar Province near the Pakistan border.

The Battle of Wanat, a fight in a mountainous village in the Dara-I-Pech district, began at 4:30 am local time (UTC+4:30), just before dawn, with insurgents firing from homes and a mosque in Wanat.

"The insurgents went into an adjacent village, drove the villagers out, used their homes and a mosque as a base from which to launch the attack and fire on the outpost," said Mark Laity, a spokesperson for NATO. "Some of the insurgents also then attacked. I think it looks as if they made a brief breach into the base and were repelled."

A Taliban force estimated to number in the hundreds then tried to overrun the outpost, which had only been occupied for several days prior to the attack, according to NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF).

The outpost, which contained troops from ISAF and the Afghan army, was able to organize and call in air support and drive back the assault, which had been able to penetrate the base perimeters. An estimated 40 militants were killed in the battle, and 15 US troops have been reported wounded. The fighting continued until mid-afternoon.

"Instead of looking at it necessarily from the perspective of the Taliban or terrorists being more aggressive in coming after NATO or U.S. forces or Afghan forces, in this particular case it was an example of NATO, U.S. and Afghan forces being aggressive in combatting cross-border infiltration," said Sean McCormack of the United States Department of State.

"The attack on Sunday was a carefully planned one, with upward of 200 insurgents, to give it weight of force," said Captain Michael Finney, acting spokesperson for ISAF.

Analyst Haroun Mir, deputy director of Afghanistan's Center for Research and Policy Studies, said the attack showed superior planning. It was clear evidence of Al-Qaeda in the area, he claimed. He pointed to recent incidents, such as a major jailbreak in Kandahar in June as evidence of increased capability of the insurgents.


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Details emerge on Norway Rock Festival deaths as Motörhead hold minute's silence

July 14, 2008 Further details have emerged on the deaths of two people at the annual Norway Rock Festival in Kvinesdal. Eight other people were rescued unconscious from a bus at the site. Meanwhile, it has been reported that British heavy metal band Motörhead opened their performance at the festival with a minute's silence for the deceased.

The names of those killed have now been released. They are Terje Brueland, 32, and Anita Wathne, 31. As reported earlier, they were an unmarried couple and left behind three children. It is believed that the accident occurred due to carbon monoxide poisoning.

The police investigation has uncovered that the double-decker bus had been converted into a motorhome. Electricity was supplied by way of a generator, which was placed inside a locked compartment on the vehicle. Police believe that fumes from the generator leaked inside without anyone noticing, as carbon monoxide is odourless and colourless.

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Spain-based Santander agrees to purchase of UK bank Alliance & Leicester

July 14, 2008 Alliance & Leicester (A&L), a major UK bank, has agreed to a deal regarding its sale to Banco Santander, a banking company based in Spain. The deal, which is worth £1.2 billion, means that shareholders will receive one share in Santander for every three shares they hold in A&L.

Santander said in a statement that "Santander and A&L announce that they have reached agreement on the terms of a recommended acquisition by Santander of A&L, which is to be effected by means of a scheme of arrangement under sections 895 to 899 of the Companies Act [2006]."

Sections 895 to 899 of the Companies Act 2006 focus on, among other things, the meeting of creditors and members and the duty of directors and trustees to provide information. Section 897 requires the company to "explain the effect of the compromise or arrangement" to the shareholders when an acquisition takes place. In the statement released under the Companies Act, it is stated the board of A&L considers the deal set by Santander to be 'fair and reasonable.'

Shares in Alliance & Leicester increased by 50% when information about the deal was first made public earlier today.

Unions have expressed concerns over the takeover by the company which also owns UK based Abbey. "Staff at A&L deserve to have answers about their future and we urge the company to be upfront about their intentions," said Andy Kerr, spokesperson for the Communication Workers Union.


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Comments:OPEC sees US$170 per barrel of oil

Note: OPEC controls the overall quantity of output each member-country can produce. Thus, by controlling supply, prices are controled relatively. The first oil crisis of the US in the 70's can point to one perpetrator: OPEC. The recent limited quantity of current oil production: US regualtion combined with OPEC tightening.

 * That's incredibly insightful of you. --SVTCobra 20:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Sixteen killed in Pakistan during Taliban ambush

Does not make sense putting a picture of proclamation of gode is one in arabic with this news. Do you put cross, or star of david etc. when a chirstian or jew or any other person or group from a differant faith kills?


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Sulpicio names companies hired for 'Princess of the Stars' salvage

July 14, 2008

Sulpicio Lines has named the companies hired to conduct salvage operations for MV Princess of the Stars, the Philippines ferry that sank on June 21 during Typhoon Fengshen, leaving over 800 passengers dead.

The Department of Transportation and Communication (DOTC) had already set a deadline of this Tuesday to name the contractor who would recover the ship. Another important aspect is the separate recovery of chemicals on board, primarily the fuel and a 10-tonne shipment of the dangerous pesticide endosulfan by Del Monte.

The ship had also been carrying a number of other chemicals in smaller quantities, including metamedopus, carbofuran, niclosemide, and proptineb. All of the chemicals must be removed by order of the DOTC before the vessel is recovered. The chemical recovery is to be performed by Titan Salvage, an international firm owned by Florida's Crowley Maritime Corporation and specialising in sunken and capsized ship recovery. Titan will co-operate with both Sulpicio and the DOTC, and expect the project to be completed within 60 days of the contract being signed.

Once the chemicals on board are removed then the ship itself can be recovered. Sulpicio has also named its contractor for this: Malayan Towage and Salvage Corporation (Salvtug). Salvtug has accepted the contract, but warned that its estimated operation cost is PHP2.25 billion to P4.5 billion, which is roughly equivalent to US$50 million to $100 million. Sulpicio had previously estimated that this exercise would cost P600 million.

The high cost is a potential problem as it is unclear who will pay. Sulpicio's insurance does not cover salvage. Had Sulpicio been covered with protection and indemnity (P&I) insurance this would have been covered, but this is not required in the Philippines and so Sulpicio's insurance agreement with Oriental Assurance Corporation only covered the hull, machinery and third-party injuries and damage.

It is likely that Sulpicio will pay for the recovery of the ferry, which has a gross weight of 23,824 tons, but as the ship poses a potential environmental hazard it has been suggested that the government should pay the costs initially to ensure work is done quickly, with Sulpicio to be charged later for this. However, for now it is unclear who will pay for the vessel's recovery.


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Chanchangi Airlines 737 crashes on landing in Nigeria

July 15, 2008

A Boeing 737-200 owned and operated by Chanchangi Airlines has overshot the runway at Nigeria's Port Harcourt International Airport and crashed into a field. There are no reports of serious injuries or structural damage to the aircraft, which had arrived from Nigerian capital Lagos.

The crash occurred at 5:44 local time yesterday. Passenger numbers are unclear. A Rivers State police spokeswoman said there were 47 passengers and crew on board, but an airport official said there were thirty passengers and did not mention crew at all. The Aviation Herald reports both 43 and 45 passengers.

The aircraft was on flight 5B138 and registered 5N-BIG. It sustained some damage in the accident, and two passengers were treated for minor injuries at the airport. The accident occurred in gusting winds and drizzle after a heavy downpour, and the airline said that the accident occurred because the rain had left the tarmac slippery. As the plane turned onto the taxiway at the runway's end, it skidded off the paved surface.

There is a history of poor safety in Nigerian aviation. Officials have promised improvements but analysts say corruption is preventing this from happening.


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Unfortunately, AP seems to be the only ones reporting on this. I checked the Chanchangi official site and no mention. --SVTCobra 22:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

 * We just have to be patient. There's various specialist aviation publications will pick this up eventually. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


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ICC prosecutor seeks arrest of Sudanese president

July 15, 2008 The International Criminal Court's (ICC) Procecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampohas accused Sudanese President Omar Hassan al-Bashir of major crimes committed in the Darfur region. Mr. Bashir is said to have personally directed a mlitary campaign "to destroy in substantial part the Fur, Masalit and Zaghawa" tribes. He has asked the ICC for a warrant to arrest al-Bashir for 10 offences including war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide.

Some have criticized the move, saying that it will spark further violence and unrest in the country

Al-Bashir came to rule power in 1989. There has been a racial conflict in the country since 2003. The Arab militia, named the Janjaweed, are a government funded group alleged to have been driving the conflict in the region. Since 2003, as many as 300,000 people have been killed and 2 million people displaced from their homes.

Al-Bashir has rejected the charges, claiming the ICC has no authority to arrest him as Sudan is not a member of the court.

The United Nations will evacuate all non-essential peacekeepers in the region however they maintain that they will continue their operation despite the deteriorating security situation.