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Talk:Spreading floods in Pakistan worsen, at least 1600 dead

Broadcast report
One of the sources included here is a video source from the BBC.

Facts taken from the report
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 * Flood disaster in second week
 * Central Punjab province affected mostly on Thursday the 5th of August.
 * Still raining in many parts of Pakistan
 * 80% of food reserves depleted
 * Floods receded in many parts leaving layer slime and mud.
 * Pakistani RAF pilots volunteering for aid mission to deliver foodstuffs such as flour (enough to feed 100 families for a month). Pilots working maximum number of hours, motivation high, tension high.
 * Thousands of people in Pakistan haven't been reached at all.
 * Disasters emergency committee - coordinating and representing the UK's leading humanitarian agencies.
 * Country already facing economic crisis and Taliban insurgency
 * President in London, England - prioritizing Taliban problem. Criticized for being away during disaster in his country.
 * Main river of Pakistan is the Indus, stretches from North to South and it is this river that has flooded due to massive monsoon rains.
 * There is fear that cholera and other waterborne diseases may start spreading soon. Diarrhea and respiratory infections have already started spreading due to the extremely unsanitary conditions.

Categories
The Politics and conflicts category is included because of the minor point that the Prime Minister of the country is in London during this disaster and this has made him deeply unpopular since he is seen to be abandoning his country during its time of crisis.

Appeal
The appeal at the end of the article is staying, whether it is WN policy or not. The relief that this could lead to for those affected by the disaster is important enough to overlook any style rules it may break. Isn't it? FireLyte--spyre (talk) 12:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Style is not the issue. The appeal is (1) an emotive personal approach, (2) specific to the UK.  Such an appeal belongs in the opinions tab, as far as I can tell (even though at least one admin says no external links in opinions.)
 * You can mention, neutrally, what various countries are doing to provide relief, but an appeal will damage the credibility of the news in the eyes of the reader, and thus perhaps be less effective in raising awareness and funds.
 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 12:34, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

 * ah I suppose you're right. I'll make it neutral then. I suppose there are other places to publicise the appeal. FireLyte--spyre (talk) 13:32, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Too long?
There is more that can be added here but I don't know whether it is too long already. I know most people won't want to read an article longer than this. FireLyte--spyre (talk) 13:32, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Have you browsed WN:FA? Many of the articles there are similar in length or a little longer.  However, only you can judge.  I added some section breaks to make it more, er, digestible.

 * I noticed that Patrick Fuller actually used the word desperate:
 * http://www.ifrc.org/docs/news/10/10080602/index.asp

 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 18:00, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Section breaks are such a good idea. I must remember to use them in long articles. That kind of source, the one you linked, is just the kind of thing I really want to learn how to find. Things like press releases, the first origin of stories. FireLyte--spyre (talk) 19:54, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

 * I guessed lucky with a search query. I googled something like 'red cross pakistan fuller desperate'. There is a reviewer here who fails articles with 'Red Cross' as too vague, so I wanted to find out which part of the movement to attribute. --InfantGorilla (talk) 20:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

 * ah I didn't realise it was so big. By the way is there a list of all the reviewers anywhere? Like a filtered user list or something? I need to bug someone to review the Karachi article before it gets stale. FireLyte--spyre (talk) 20:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Wow
This article is really detailed and in my opinion, well written. Maybe it should be a featured article after it gets published. --Shankarnikhil88 (talk) 01:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Note removed
I have removed the note and added it in parentheses per agreement with a reviewer. Though I agree it is wordy we should conform to the SG and it is worth it to get it published. FireLyte--spyre (talk) 23:52, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Clarification please
Could the article please clarify who they are? Pakistan-born pilots in the British RAF, or the air force of another country. Or is RAF a typo for PAF, Pakistan Air Force?
 * "Pakistani RAF pilots have been volunteering ..."

--InfantGorilla (talk) 10:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

I took the RAF thing from a source I now cannot find, possibly because I linked to the FT.com and they have a limit on how many articles you can read. I'll try not to link to them again I guess it would be real annoying to not be able to see a source, plus not good for verifiability.

 * The article, as I remember, did imply they were Pakistani pilots, from the Pakistani air force. But I can't verify that so I guess keeping the article as it is with your change is best now. My memory is in no way 100% reliable and I don't want to put inaccurate information in even by accident. FireLyte--spyre (talk) 23:31, 8 August 2010 (UTC)


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Of course the adjective "advanced" is culturally subjective and perhaps somewhat arbitrary when used to refer to the chronological progression of legal norms. But I'll wager that as a rule, you'd be hard pressed to find many citizens of the modern world who would be willing to chose institutionalised discrimination, social inequality and violent punishments, over human rights, civil liberties, egalitarianism and humane justice


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Wow, it takes a real overdose of loaded terminology to produce such a whopper of a complex question.


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Your apologia is quite poorly conceived, as you have not considered all the possible outcomes the system created by such legislation. Your assertion that "The existence of "marriages" and "civil unions" does not imply the employment of any force whatsoever, since the distinction is entirely on the part of the government" is demonstrably false. Say for example a member of a legally recognised homosexual  civil union were required to profess his or her "Marital status" on a legally binding contract with the options "Married", "unmarried", or "civil union". If He or she checked the Married box rather than the "Civil Union" box he/she could be charged with fraud and liable to civil or criminal pernalties, i.e. fines or jail time. While more abstract-as marriage itself is an abstract concept- It is both in its causes and its effects indistinguishable from the situation a black person being arrested or fined for using a white drinking fountain. In both situations, if a member of the underclass steps out of their legally sanctioned box, they are compelled to suffer penalties.


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You've only proven my point, All political terminology is essentially subjective, There is virtually no such thing as an impartial assessment. The only true litmus test of how "advanced/progressive or Backwards/regressive" a policy is to observe the general long-term worldwide chronological trend, which has historically been to abandon certain policies in favour of others. Which policies over the past 500 years have become more common, and which have become more rare?


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Your rebuttal is quite poorly conceived, as it tries to synthesize new circumstances that are not essential to the described system. There's no reason the document can't be drafted with only two check-boxes and the options "Single" and "Marriage / Civil Union." This is already the sort of thing that census documents do to consolidate effectively identical options (e.g. differences in terminology for referring to various races). You argue that the government could create problems for itself in this way, but in that case why not other ways? Even if gay marriages are granted, the question could be "Are you in a married relationship that would have been considered valid in the U.S. c.a. 1950?" I'm sure the government could ask all sorts of idiotic, pointless questions and thereby create unnecessary trouble for itself. That's not in doubt.


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I'd say totalitarianism has become more common. That form of centralized state did not exist in pre-modern times. That must be one of the advanced and progressive things we should aspire to.


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Again, You've failed to address my point, which was that by being confined to a seperate system, homosexual couples living under a "civil unions" regime are forced to Identify themselves by a legal qualifier that is not required for heterosexual couples, hence they are treated unequally. Your assertion that a census document would be drafted with two boxes, even if true, does not address the potential for other legal documents, both public and private to abide by the same rules. Assuming all legal contracts would do so is not only an article of faith on your part, but frankly is preposterous, One only has to look at the history of legal use of the term Hispanic to see the terminological quicksand this engenders. There are potentially many other situations in which a member of a civil union might be penalized for asserting he or she were "married" One obvious example would be on the witness stand. Furthermore If such a civil union, were as you put it, truly identical, there would be no legitimate reason whatsoever to distinguish it terminologically, It would just be called marriage, plain and simple.


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I agree that totalitarianism has become more common than it was 500 years ago- largely due to the technological advances in communication, transport, etc. that enabled governments to gain such control, although it has hardly become a consistent worldwide trend.


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You're moving the goalposts again. The entire line of argument started from me asserting that a nominal distinction between "civil unions" and "marriages" cannot be reasonably construed as "persecution" against gays and it's not similar to a system of forcible segregation of the races. Now those words have disappeared and you would have those same words contend against your much milder "unequal" language. The facts remain that the government could avoid this issue you raise, so it's not a necessary consequence of a system of civil union and that de minimis compelled speech and calling two identical documents respectively a marriage license and a civil union is not persecution or segregation. Calling it such is just an abuse of language and of logic.


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I fail to see how illustrating the legal pitfalls of civil unions legislation is "moving the goal posts". It's difficult to imagine how the governemnt could "avoid the issue" without introducing a plethora of new and problematic legislation regulating the language of legal contracts or court proceedings. Your dismissal of compelled speech as "de minimis" only belies your callous failure to recognise what is clearly a form of discrimination- Perhaps I can offer an example to help you empathize - Just Imagine if the situation were reversed and Homosexual marriages were the only relationships recognised by the state, As a Heterosexual You'd be dishonest to call your heterosexual civil union partner "husband" or "wife", or to say the two of you were "married". Now I don't know about you, but I think most people would consider that a form of persecution. Yes, it's a hypothetical, but it's precisely the situation millions of homosexual couples would find themselves in under a civil unions regime. Before Civil Rights laws were passed in the US, citizens of differing races were often not allowed to marry, such marriages were legally prohibited and not recognised by the state or federal governments. If someone suggested a law granting Interracial couples the right to "Civil Unions", rather than Marriage, It would be considered a policy of segregation or racial discrimination. It would be most enlightening to hear how discrimination by race in this regard is somehow radically different that discrimination on the basis of gender.


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209.30.81.43 I'd love to debate this issue further, but In all honesty I have important work IRL I must be attending to (as I'm sure you must have yourself). It's been a pleasure, Perhaps another time.


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Wikinews:Briefs/August 5, 2010

Promo
Today on Wikinews : California's same-sex marriage ban is ruled unconstitutional; mass panic ensues as Zimbabwean officials fake an air crash; UFO encounters may have been covered up by Churchill and Eisenhower and, in history, the story of Silent Otto.

Today is Thursday, August 05, 2010. I'm Dan Harlow and this is Wikinews.

California's same-sex marriage ban ruled unconstitutional; appeal expected (0:37)
A federal judge in San Francisco has ruled that California's Proposition 8, which bans same-sex marriage in the state, violates the Equal Protection Clause and the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution.

U.S. District Chief Judge Vaughn R Walker wrote in his statement that "Each challenge is independently meritorious, as Proposition 8 both unconstitutionally burdens the exercise of the fundamental right to marry and creates an irrational classification on the basis of sexual orientation."

Proposition 8, which was passed by California voters by referendum in November 2008, banned same-sex marriage in the state, which had been legal after a California supreme court ruling on May 15, 2008. The proposition's passage did not reverse the marriages of thousands of same-sex couples who had gotten married in the state in the interval.

Anticipating a defeat of the case titled Perry v. Schwarzenegger, the pro-Proposition 8 coalition of "defendant-intervenors" filed this morning a "motion for stay pending appeal", asking the court for its ruling to not take effect unless the decision is upheld by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals; both sides in the case say an appeal is inevitable.

Speaking for LGBT rights group Lambda Legal, Jennifer C. Pizer said, "In holding that Prop 8 cannot stand because it violates the equal protection and due process rights of California’s lesbian and gay couples, this decision adds to the growing consensus in courts and legislatures across the country that there are no good reasons for excluding same-sex couples from marriage." Courtenay Semel, an actress and LGBT activist, told Wikinews "today marks another day in history! A big win for equal marriage. It's about time that progress is being made towards equality for all."

Mass panic as Zimbabwean officials fake air crash (2:34)
On Thursday, Zimbabwean officials informed the media that an Air Zimbabwe Boeing 767 aircraft carrying 250 people had crashed at Harare International Airport, before they announced the reports were false and the incident had in fact been a drill to simulate the occurrence of such an event. Initial reports suggested that a flight from London had crashed upon landing at the airport. However, Medical Rescue International later stated in a post on Facebook that no airplane had crashed and it had "joined up with other services to attend to a mock accident at Harare International Airport ... Good to keep the practising up."

Those behind the staged accident had reportedly not told any other governmental departments, resulting in relatives inquiring with Air Zimbabwe as to what had happened. A senior figure for Air Zimbabwe stated that he was "concerned that this incident led to many, many calls to us. People were frightened. No actual plane was involved, but there was a scenario involving a Boeing 767 plane that had been hijacked and forced down at Harare airport."

It was reported that Peter Chikumba, chief of Air Zimbabwe, had also not been informed that the exercise was to take place, and that the airline had set up an emergency help desk to liaise with the families of victims. Alan McGuinness, a correspondent for Sky News, stated, "journalists who arrived at the airport saw smoke rising from a runway and were then taken to a room where they were told to wait. David Chawota, the head of the Zimbabwe Civil Aviation Authority, said the media was duped to make the drill more realistic." Chawota stated, "telling the media was part of the exercise. We wanted to see how the media would react," he said.

Chawota himself told BNO News that an airliner had crashed. Michael van Poppel, head of BNO News said that "while I first thought Chawota was just misinformed by others, although that would be odd since he is the CEO of the aviation authority, I was stunned to hear that he actually knew it was a drill and wanted to see the media's response ... This basically means he was lying to me when I spoke to him, but also to other reporters he spoke to ... I think it was absolutely irresponsible of this CEO and I can't imagine what the families of passengers travelling to Harare around that time must have gone through when they heard news reports that there had been an 'accident' at the airport."

McGuinness reported, "Stuart Sprake, general manager of FX Logistics, works at Harare airport and believed the secrecy surrounding the drill will help emergency crews learn valuable lessons." Sprake told reporters "they (the crews) had to find their way through crowds and traffic ... training exercises should be ad hoc - the less people know about it the better."

Tragically, there was a real accident today in Missouri

Two die in school bus accident in Missouri, several others injured (5:23)
involving two school buses, a tractor trailer and an sport utility vehicle has left at least two people dead and fifty more injured about 40 miles outside of St. Louis, Missouri.

The incident occurred Thursday morning on I-44 in Gray Summit between 10:15 AM to 10:30 AM local time according to Jorma Duran, a spokesman for the Missouri Department of Transportation.

The school buses were carrying students from St. James High School and it was en route to the Six Flags St. Louis amusement park, approximately 10 miles from the scene of the accident.

It wasn't immediately clear how exactly the collision happened.

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Three children die in Edinburgh terrace fire (6:51)
A criminal investigation has begun in Edinburgh after three children were killed in a fire at a three storey terraced house just before 3pm yesterday.

Firefighters were called to the house on Slateford Road in Scotland's capital city, for a reported gas explosion, and they put out a small fire in an upstairs room. However, there was no evidence of an explosion and none of the surrounding houses were damaged. Three young children, two boys and a girl, were found to have died at the scene. Police are treating the deaths as suspicious.

A woman believed to be the children's mother was found injured on the ground in front of the house and there are reports that witnesses saw her jump from a third floor balcony. She was taken for treatment at the Edinburgh Royal Infirmary.

The mother of the three children, now named as eight year olds Luca and Austin and five year old Cecilia Riggi, is to be questioned by police after details emerged that suggest it is unlikely the children died in the fire.

In a statement the Lothian and Borders Police said: "The investigation into the cause of this tragedy is in its early stages." However, the police have also said that there was no fault with the gas supply.

Neighbours have reported that they heard screaming from inside the house and one source said that when they found the victims lying dead in the living room it was "a horrific scene." However reports that the children died before the fire broke out have not been confirmed by official sources and only reports by neighbors and others at the scene have indicated this. Police, refusing to confirm these reports, say that the results of the post-mortems would help them decide whether to launch a murder inquiry into the incident.

According to Detective Superintendent Allan Jones the mother, Theresa Riggi, and her three children had been living in Edinburgh for little over a month since they were reported missing from their home in Skene, Aberdeenshire last month. Mrs Riggi is currently in a stable condition in hospital and Det Supt Jones said they are hoping to speak to her on Thursday. He said: "She's not in a position to speak to us at the moment."

The children were reportedly at the center of a custody battle between Mrs Riggi and the children's father, Pasquale Riggi. The father, who is not a suspect in the investigation, has been informed of the tragedy and is helping police to determine the last movements of the family. Det Supt Jones reported: "He's heartbroken but he's very composed. He realizes he holds a lot of central information that we need. We're conscious of the trauma he's gone through."

Theresa Riggi and her husband were going through divorce proceedings and she was due to appear at the Court of Session in Edinburgh on Tuesday but apparently she did not attend the hearing.

The Judge, Lady Clark granted a search warrant for Mrs Riggi and said that social workers should supervise the children, applying for child protection orders if necessary, after Mr Riggi's counsel asked for an order to safeguard the children's interests.

The children were allegedly educated at home so the Social Work Department had had no contact with the family since they moved to Scotland from the US.

It is believed that Mrs Riggi may have turned on the gas, which a neighbor then smelled and called emergency services, which may have led to the original report of a gas explosion.

Tributes of flowers have been left close to the scene with cards of sympathy and condolences.

Campbell testifies against former Liberian president (10:12)
Supermodel Naomi Campbell testified for prosecutors on Thursday in a war crimes case against former Liberian president Charles Taylor.

Taylor allegedly gave an uncut blood diamond to Campbell in 1997 when they met for dinner in South Africa, according to Professor David Crane of Syracuse University.

Crane told Voice of America, "The testimony itself is important because the prosecution wants to show that Charles Taylor has the mindset or what we call the mens rea to use the blood diamonds that were mined by Sierra Leoneans chained to pits in the Kailahun and Kenema area. And, he was using them for various reasons: to buy guns, to use cash to deposit, and also to buy influence."

Taylor denies he possessed any uncut diamonds.

Campbell said in her testimony, "When I was sleeping I had a knock on my door. I opened my door and two men were there and gave me a pouch and said, 'A gift for you.'" She said the men gave her "very small, dirty looking stones."

She continued, "At breakfast I told Miss [Mia] Farrow and Miss [Carole] White what had happened and one of the two said, well that's obviously Charles Taylor, and I said, yes I guess it was."

Campbell was not sure Taylor sent her the blood diamonds and she claimed she assumed it was the accused and continued stating it was unlikely anyone else gave her the gift.

The Special Court for Sierra Leone in The Hague, The Netherlands ruled that no one may sketch, take photographs, or make videos of Campbell due to her high profile. Photographers were barred from taking photos of Campbell entering or leaving the courthouse, but her testimony was recorded as usual.

Google to discontinue social networking application Google Wave (11:54)
Google has decided to retire the Google Wave social-networking service after one year, citing lack of user adoption.

In May 2009, Google launched Wave as a private beta. A year later, it became open to the public. Wave is an email service that integrates social media features and capabilities into emailing and it also integrates IM-like features into its service. The company has released components of Google Wave as open source for those to create a similar service.

Urs Hölzle, Google senior vice president for operations, said in a blog post that "Wave has not seen the user adoption we would have liked. We don't plan to continue developing Wave as a stand-alone product." Hölzle also said that as a "web app for real time communication and collaboration, it set a high bar for what was possible in a Web browser. We weren't quite sure how users would respond to this radically different kind of communication." Google says that it will continue the service until the end of the year.

RAF UFO encounters may have been covered up by Churchill and Eisenhower (12:54)
In light of documents released by the National Archives, The United Kingdom's Ministry of Defense has investigated claims that Winston Churchill and Dwight Eisenhower may have orchestrated a cover-up of an Unidentified Flying Object sighting by the Royal Air Force.

Numerous public inquiry files suggest that great concern was had for the proposition that former Prime Minister of The UK, Churchill and than US General Eisenhower, knew of an unknown metallic object approaching RAF aircraft off the British coast during World War II. One inquiry noted a discussion between Churchill and Eisenhower overheard by Churchill's body guard by the apparent grandson of the body guard (whose name was blacked out).

The inquiry read, "During the discussion with Mr Churchill, a consultant dismissed any possibility that the object had been a missile, since a missile could not suddenly match its speed with a slower aircraft and then accelerate again [...] Another person at the meeting raised the possibility of an unidentified flying object, at which point Mr Churchill declared that the incident should be immediately classified for at least 50 years and its status reviewed by a future prime minister".

Further records showing Churchill's general interest in UFOs were released along side many other public inquiry files that concluded any UFO sightings were no threat to British airspace and minutes from a Joint Intelligence Committee meeting in 1959, where UFO sightings were a major theme.

Sightings made by officials and civilians were discussed at the Joint Intelegence meeting and 16 cases were singled out, 10 were identified as technical faults, misinterpretations and hoaxes - while 6 remain unidentified.

The unit of the Ministry of Defence that dealt with UFOs was closed last year.

On this day in history (14:42)

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Though he served only one and a half of the six years of World War II, the German U-boat commander Otto Kretschmer, popularaly known as Silent Otto, was the most successful Ace of the Deep and no other U-boat commander was able to surpass him in terms of tonnage sunk.

Otto was born in Liegnitz, a city in south-western Poland on May 1 1912. At the age of seventeen he spent eight months living in Exeter, England where he learned to speak English fluently and in 1930 he joined the Reichsmarine where he became an officer and served for 1 year on the light cruiser Emden, the only ship of her class and the first new warship built in Germany after World War I.

By January 1936, he had been promoted to a senior lieutenant and was transferred to the U-boat fleet where he received extensive training and a year later during Germany's involvement in the Spanish Civil War, he was placed in command of the submarine U-35 where he patrolled the Spanish coast but sunk no vessels. However when Germany invaded Poland in 1939 he and U-35 were sent to patrol the British coast in the North Sea.

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Kretschmer's first success came when he attacked and sunk the Danish 10,517 ton tanker Danmark on January 12, 1940. However the British admiralty at that time thought that the tanker had actually struck a mine as they did not locate any U-boat in the area. A month later, on February 18th, Kretschmer sank the 1,300 ton British fleet destroyer HMS Daring while she was escorting a convoy from Norway. U-Boat crews almost always avoided deliberately engaging enemy destroyers, so the Daring's destruction was rightly seen as a very skillful attack by Kretschmer.

Then in April 1940, Kretschmer was transferred to command of the newly-completed U-99, one of the new type VII submarines (the most successful submarine of the German fleet) and it was while during this command where, in a sense, he started his legacy.

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During the first four patrols of the U-99, Kretschmer started attacking convoys at night on the surface, taking down merchant ships with highly accurate shots, using only one torpedo per target ship in order to save ammunition, and the quote "One torpedo ... one ship" is attributed to Kretschmer. From around this time, he was also given the nickname "Silent Otto", both for his successful use of the "silent running" capability of the U-boats as well as for his reluctance to make radio broadcasts during patrols.

And on one patrol during November and December 1940, he sank three, and mortally wounded another, British armed merchant cruisers totalling over 46,000 gross tons. These three successes earned Kretschmer the number-one spot on the Aces list, and was never surpassed even though his tactics were widely copied, with mixed results, throughout the U-Boat force.

Kretschmer was also meticulous in his conduct towards the crews of torpedoed ships. When attacking lone merchant ships in the days before wolfpack tactics began in earnest, he had been known to hand down bottles of spirits and blankets into lifeboats and give them the course to the nearest land. On one patrol in September 1940, Kretschmer retrieved a survivor of another torpedo attack who was alone in the Atlantic on a small raft and took him aboard, transferring him later to a lifeboat after his next successful attack.

On a patrol during March 1941, he sunk 10 more vessels, but on the 17th of March U-99 was disabled after repeated depth charge attacks by the British destroyers HMS Walker and HMS Vanoc.

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Kretschmer surfaced and, under fire from the British vessels, scuttled his boat. Three of his men were lost, but Kretschmer and the remainder of U-99's crew were captured by the British.

Kretschmer's usual standards of conduct were evident during the sinking of his boat; he signaled HMS Walker asking for rescue for his men, took pains to ensure as many left the submarine as possible, and assisted some of his crew towards the rescue nets hung from the British destroyer. Kretschmer's strength was evidently failing in the cold water and his own rescue was at the hands of a British sailor who climbed down the nets and plucked him from the water.

Upon his capture, he spent almost seven years as a P.O.W. in the hands of the British. However, Kretschmer was so valuable to the German command that in 1943, the Germans tried to rescue him from Camp 30 in Bowmanville, Ontario during the daring Operation Kiebitz.

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The plan involved sending coded messages sent by mail through the International Committee of the Red Cross to the prisoners. The goal was to tunnel out of the camp, and make their way 870 miles through eastern Canada to northern New Brunswick where they would rendezvous with an awaiting U-boat. However the Canadians had been intercepting the coded messages all along but did not tip off the prisoners as the they were hoping to get a rare chance to seize a German U-boat in Canadian waters; a feat that would have been an intelligence coup for the Allies.

As the date of the escape attempt drew closer, the camp guards moved in and seized the POWs, including Kretschmer, but one officer, Wolfgang Heyda, managed to escape over the camp walls using a crude zip-wire on electrical cables. Heyda eluded search parties and the massive police response and somehow made his way on Canadian National Railways passenger trains from southern Ontario to Pointe de Maisonnette in northern New Brunswick on Chaleur Bay. Heyda arrived at the location at the appointed time only to be arrested by personnel who were waiting to coordinate a surface task force that would attempt to attack and/or seize the awaiting U-boat.

U-536, which had been tasked with picking up the escaping naval officers, arrived off Pointe de Maisonnette and at the appointed time was signaled with a light that the escapees were to have used, however the U-boat commander was suspicious, particularly after his hydrophones picked up the sound of several warships that lay hidden nearby. U-536 opted to remain submerged and began to evade the warships which searched throughout the night and attempted unsuccessfully to attack U-536 with depth charges.

Had the plan been successful, it would have been sensational propaganda material for the Nazi war machine however Kretschmer remained a prisoner and U-536 was sunk the following month before it returned to its German homeport.

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Kretschmer wasn't returned to Germany until December 1947 where, like several other surviving German naval veterans, he joined the post-WWII German Navy, the Bundesmarine, until he retired in September 1970 as a flotilla admiral. During a vacation in Bavaria on August 5th 1998, this day in history, he died in an accident on a boat on the Danube, while celebrating his 50th wedding anniversary. He was later cremated and his ashes were scattered at sea.

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And those are the top headlines for Thursday, August 05, 2010

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US Senate confirms Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan

August 7, 2010

US Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan has been confirmed by the US Senate by a vote of 63–37 and will be sworn in Saturday by Chief Justice John Roberts as a Supreme Court Associate Justice.

Shortly after the Senate vote, Justice Roberts offered the 50-year-old Kagan "warm congratulations," according to Supreme Court spokeswoman Kathy Arberg. 56 Democrats, five Republicans, and two Independents voted to confirm Kagan. 35 Republicans and one Democrat voted against her. The Republicans that voted for Kagan were of Indiana,  of New Hampshire, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, and  and, both of Maine. Democrat, of Nebraska, voted against Kagan.

"I am confident that Elena Kagan will make an outstanding Supreme Court justice," said US president Barack Obama after Kagan was confirmed. Obama also said that Kagan would have a positive impact on the conservative-majority court because she "understands that the law isn’t just an abstraction or an intellectual exercise" and that "she knows that the Supreme Court’s decisions shape not just the character of our democracy, but the circumstances of our daily lives." Senate Judiciary Chairman (Democrat-Vermont) also said that Kagan's confirmation was "long, long overdue."

Kagan is a former dean of the Harvard Law School, a legal adviser during the Clinton administration, and the in the current Obama administration. She becomes the fourth woman ever to serve on the court and will become the third current female justice, joining Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor. Sotomayor was also appointed by Obama and confirmed by the Senate by a 68–31 vote. Kagan replaces retiring Justice John Paul Stevens, who is the leading liberal on the court.


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Very good. Nice article


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Marriage is a specific form of civil contract and should not have a seperate set of laws. This would avoid the whole debate about what is or is not a marriage as each couple (triplet or whatever) would define the conditions of marriage seperately.


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To comment on heath care, A lot in part is opposition from the GOP, who don't like spending much.


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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

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Hiroshima marks 65th atomic bombing anniversary

August 7, 2010

The 65th anniversary of the has been remembered in a ceremony Thursday in, Japan.

The atomic bomb, code-named "", was dropped on Hiroshima at precisely 08:15 local time on August 6, 1945 by the specially converted  bomber  piloted by Colonel, who later retired as a brigadier general in the.

Diplomats from 75 countries attended this anniversary including the United States, United Kingdom and France for the first time. United Nations secretary-general Ban Ki-moon, who was also attending this ceremony for the first time said "Together, we are on a journey from ground zero to global zero — a world free of weapons of mass destruction, and that is the only sane path to a safer world. For as long as nuclear weapons exist, we will live under a nuclear shadow."

U.S. Ambassador to Japan also attended, marking the first time that a U.S. representative has attended the ceremony. Meanwhile, some conservatives in the United States have criticised the choice for Roos to attend. Gene Tibbets, the son of retired Brigadier General Tibbets said on, "It's making the Japanese look like they're the poor people, like they didn't do anything. They hit Pearl Harbor, they struck us. We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We stopped the war."

Three days after Hiroshima, another atomic bomb, "", was dropped on nearby. The Japanese Government surrendered unconditionally on August 15, and signed the formal surrender on the on September 2 in.

Approximately 140,000 people died within days from the initial blast of the Hiroshima bomb and during the following year from radiation. The total death toll was almost half of Hiroshima's population.


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Didnt even realise google had this service. Was never properly advertised.. No wonder why


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Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Cowan. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Cowan~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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Really? 200px? Thanks for joining 1999. Sure, back then I was only running 1024x768 at the absolute top end. Now in 2010 I run 1680x1050. Many machines start at 1920x1080 or better for "HD". Displays are just going to get better. Deleting everything above 200px is possibly one of the shortest sighted suggestions I've _ever_ heard.


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I tried to use it once but never understand its functionality and still don't know how it works actually.


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Do you know that many Google executives moved to Facebook recently.


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The version isn't pixellated at all, according to its page. It is a vector version that the FBI made available to download, but clearly prefers that others don't distribute.

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Stale article about gunmen attack.
Whew! I haven't been on in a while. I tagged it as stale since, since I read (somewhere) that articles that are two day old should be tagged as stale. That event happened on April 3rd, so I tagged it as stale on APril 5. You changed it to say the event happened on April 5th. Am I missing somthing? Buggie111 (talk) 00:46, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming that you're referring to Gunmen kill 25 in Iraqi village, yes? The date on the topmost line is actually the date of publication, not when the event actually happened. Benny the mascot (talk) 01:19, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thanks for writing those briefs today - you really saved my butt! Turtlestack (talk) 02:23, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey
I'm talking with that guy, to see if he wants his name published or not. I'll contact you as soon as I come back to Pichilemu. Cheers. --Diego Grez return fire 14:17, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Look.

--Diego Grez return fire 22:27, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Archive of article - explanation
Blast. Funnily enough, I don't even remember doing that. I guess that, after cutting/pasting publish to the correct location, I automatically thought the article needed archiving (because I always paste archive to the bottom of articles right before archiving). Me needs to be reprogrammed, sorry. Tempodivalse [talk]  22:50, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Lol. --Diego Grez return fire 22:51, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ha ha... don't worry about it! Benny the mascot (talk) 03:56, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

US vs. American move war
Hi, you might wish to check my latest comment at the talk page Talk:US actor Gary Coleman dies aged 42, which might concern you. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  21:14, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey!
Could you review my article please? :) --Diego Grez return fire 21:16, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the delay... I've been taking a nap. ;) Benny the mascot (talk) 01:23, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Lol. OK =) --Diego Grez return fire 01:23, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the edit conflicts, and thanks for reviewing. =) --Diego Grez return fire 03:57, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Super Portal Template
Hi!

As one of the people pushing for improved portals, what's your thoughts on how I'm doing with Portal:Scotland? Feel free to copy the code from that page into a sandbox page and play with the parameters on it. You will, however, need to copy Mediawiki:Common.css/Portal:Scotland to Mediawiki:Common.css/your-sandboxy-page-name. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:43, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info! I'll try to take a look at it soon... Benny the mascot (talk) 15:48, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * If you can try and do so fairly soon, I'd appreciate it. I'm off work today, and tommorrow; but, tommorrow I need to try and get to a doctor's for some "quality" painkillers for my bruised or cracked rib. Any feedback on how to organise the bottom half would be greatly appreciated. You'll see it is an attempt to propagate the main page look'n'feel down through the site. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:02, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Ok...I've finished (hopefully) working on Portal:Illinois. I like the whole idea of keeping the format consistent throughout the site, but I'd like to see regional templates such as United States added as well, maybe below all of the continent links. Also, I would get rid of the other languages and sister projects links. Benny the mascot (talk) 14:39, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Appropriate use of block summaries
As you seem unaware, a block summary is what is displayed to a user when they attempt to edit; your summary was wholly inappropriate. It is not an edit summary. --Brian McNeil / talk 03:05, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. I'll keep that in mind in the future. Benny the mascot (talk) 03:06, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion technicality
Just thought I'd you know that OBAT DIABETES HEMAT BIAYA should have been deleted as Foreign language, not news, rather than as a test page as it was an article probably better suited for an encylopaedia written in Indonesian. --Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 16:08, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm...I had a feeling it was in a foreign language, but I didn't know for sure. "Test page" seemed to be a nice second option. Benny the mascot (talk) 16:54, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Sports Prefixes
Could you please take a look at Water_cooler/policy. Please give your thoughts there. Calebrw (talk) 18:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Block advice
Abusive usernames do not get a chance to rename.

You indefinitely block AND delete all associated pages. --Brian McNeil / talk 05:44, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Meh...might as well give him the chance to redeem himself. If he gets more abusive, then I take tougher action. Benny the mascot (talk) 13:19, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * NO. You block, you delete user and talk pages. If they want to redeem themselves they can create a non-abusive username after the block on the IP expires. Every single "you have been blocked" or whatever message on their talk page gives the abusive username another entry in recent changes, another ocurrence of the abusive name, and so on. We are not a 'troll rehab clinic'. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:23, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Benny, just to let you know i replied to your query on this here. This user is a persistent, long-time vandal, so the chance of him trying to "redeem" himself is practically nil. Tempodivalse [talk]  13:26, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

(I had an ec on Tempo's talk page. Let's continue the discussion here) As I said, I like to give users a chance to redeem themselves. After all, I too have been blocked before when I edited through an account on wp about four years ago, so I can sympathize with vandals. Perhaps neither of you have had that experience, have you? While my offenses were so minor that I got 1 week blocks at the max, they almost discouraged me from contributing all together. But no...something about the project brought me back, and now I am here faithfully serving Wikinews after having contributed to Wikipedia! Vandals just need a bit more time to mature, I think. Or maybe I'm just too nice... :) In any case, I'll try to not be too soft on vandalism. I promise. :D (oh, and I have absolutely no idea who our recurring vandals are. Do we have a list?) Benny the mascot (talk) 13:37, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Generally I agree with giving unconstructive users a chance to reform; however, this is a known cross-wiki vandal who I would argue is not going to reform, and will only take advantage of anything less than a full hard-block to vandalise the project more. A user who is so obviously disruptive as to create an attack username probably didn't come here with the intention of helping the project ever ... Tempodivalse [talk]  14:02, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

 * I really must disagree with your unblock of 's IP. That user is a persistent, cross-wiki vandal who has abused many userpages in WMF wikis. Unblocking the IP just gives him another means through which to vandalise; he's not going to contribute here constructively. Tempodivalse [talk]  18:42, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Things like these aren't nice. This user isn't going to change. --Diego Grez return fire 18:44, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

 * We do not have a corresponding policy to Wikipedia's AGF. And, I assure you, that is with good reason. Anyone who is enough of a dick to create an abusive username does not deserve a second chance with that account. They can sit out the block of their IP, and - in the unlikely event they would like to contribute constructively - try and start with a clean sheet.
 * Yourself, Tempo, and several of our newer converts from Wikipedia, really don't understand what I've done on this project to keep trolling to a minimum. I have the respect of people on alt.hackers.malicious who hunt down online paedophiles and - with questionable tactics - get law enforcement dealing with them. Then again, I'm old-school; I was online a good number of years before you were born, I was hacking before there were any laws against such, I will - frankly - take on anyone.
 * This, however, is Wikinews, and, as the fourth estate, one of the most important pillars of a free, democratic society. We must hold all the other aspects of society to account, and hold a mirror up to show the ugly aspects of their behaviour. I got us listed in Google News, and that listing has stuck. When Erik Moeller, current Deputy CEO of the WMF met them about the same, we were de-listed within 45 minutes of the end of the meeting.
 * I can live without the responsibility associated with CheckUser, but if the Wikipedification of this project continues I will see it shut down and rolled back into an insignificant corner of Wikipedia before moving on to something else. "A chance" and "Enough rope to hang yourself" are a million miles apart; if you can't see where which is appropriate, you should not have responsibility for blocks. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:51, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Bugging Stewards
For the majority of purposes, the various pages that are currently at-issue can simply be left as deleted; I do not think there is a need to go as far as getting them oversighted. We do trust admins to see deleted pages, right?

At the moment, the best thing would be to try and bring things back to internally handled by Wikinewsies.

Incidentally, as I mentioned last night in IRC, one of the local universities did indeed confirm to me that articles written on Wikinews could indeed by submitted as part of a portfolio – should someone from here be interested in a career in journalism. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:00, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Reviewing and Copyediting
I, casually, count about a dozen grammatical, style guide, and formatting errors in this article. Review is not a rubber-stamp. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:04, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * (sigh) Wow, I'm really sorry Brian. I really don't know what was going on in my head at the time. Maybe I just felt really angry about the fact that the article was up for review for over a day??? I've always felt that having to wait for so long really isn't fair to the writers, but I know that's not a good excuse for a lax review at all. :/ I'll try to be more careful next time. Benny the mascot (talk) 16:23, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, sorry to be snippy. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:41, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

In case you didn't see it...
Just in case you didn't see it. Reconfirm closed. I'm sorry to report, but you're still an admin. You're safe to abuse some newbies now.-- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 00:30, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Hey
Thanks ;-p --Diego Grez return fire 22:51, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

2-hour block
Hi Benny. I saw this in the recent changes, and thought I'd pop in to comment:

''1x:30. . Benny the mascot (Talk | contribs | block) changed block settings for 75.47.129.69  (Talk) with an expiry time of 2 hours (anonymous users only, account creation disabled, cannot edit own talk page) (Vandalism, blanking talk page (nah...let's give this person a chance. Wikinews is a bit slow today anyway))''

I don't know that I agree with that. Why block him at all if only for two hours? The user is a repeat, persistent vandal, and he's only going to take advantage of a short block to vandalise the project more, IMHO. [http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/BOOOOOOOOO! See here] for previous vandalism. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  16:42, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * If you checked the previous block, I blocked the user for six, not two, hours. I was merely adjusting for the time difference.
 * As for the merits of a six-hour block, I think that being lenient towards vandals actually makes them less likely to become repeat offenders. Indef blocks give vandals something they can try to circumvent and a reason to vandalize more, short blocks give them a chance to redeem themselves. We all know that Wikinews doesn't have that many contributors; if we want to have more users, then we're going to have to start being less stringent with our blocking policy and start educating potentially productive contributors.
 * On a related note, WN:BP states that "it is up to admins to use their discretion to decide when to block, and how long for." If you can't trust my judgment, then you really shouldn't have supported me during my reconfirmation. Just sayin... Benny the mascot (talk) 16:58, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't want to suggest I don't trust your judgment, I'm just wondering what the reasons behind such a short block were. I'd agree that short blocks might sometimes actually have a better affect on first-time vandals or unconstructive users, but for long-term vandals (which I think this user is) that have their minds set only on vandalising, that's just ... counterproductive. Tempodivalse [talk]  17:21, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

My userspace
Why did you delete my test page in my userspace? It certainly wasn't because of "user request". If I'd wanted it deleted, I'd have done it myself. Gopher65talk 15:34, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I keep forgetting who's admin and who isn't. Could you please link to the page you're referring to? There may have been a template put up for deletion that was transcluded on your page. Benny the mascot (talk) 17:17, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It was User:Gopher65/test. It was deleted sometime between May 28. Here are the logs. Anywho, I'm not mad, I'm just curious. I don't *think* there was a transluded delete template in that revision, but you never know. Gopher65talk 01:22, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

NASCAR driver Montoya wins pole at New Hampshire
Thank you for publishing this article. -- Nascar 1996  14:32, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. Happy to help. Benny the mascot (talk) 14:34, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I also learned some more things about Wikinews from you review. -- Nascar 1996  14:40, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi, thanks for unblocking me once again. I'll just say that I hope you'll never get chance to see any kind of trouble from my side again. I want to use this account as I already forgot password of user account "Saqib". Thank you! --Saki (talk) 10:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, soory I'm out of country now thats why got time to check WN but could you please brief me whats actually going on here? It seems that the article is going to delete? --Saki (talk) 13:06, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Close paraphrase
I just wanted to let you know that I have tagged an article we both reviewed as apparent copyright infringement: It appears that you and I disagree on what the outcome of the review should have been.

--InfantGorilla (talk) 13:06, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

 * I am a bit surprised that you reverted Cirt's deletion as out of process: yet the process for suspected infringment (copyvio) is deletion after one day. In my experience, the appropriate appeals process is WN:DR.  Have I misunderstood something somewhere (I am new to the admin bit) ?  --InfantGorilla (talk) 06:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * We don't speedy delete published articles. (Something to do with Google News and such) If you'd like to have it deleted, then DR is the way to go. Cheers! Benny the mascot (talk) 13:08, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * In that case the proposed deletion policy has drifted out of sync with practice, and is another policy to add to the list for review.
 * However, I disagree with your interpretation: the proposed deletion process we used lists it at the bottom of WN:DR and gives 24 hours for objections (in this case it had 48 as I proposed it twice.) It was within process for Cirt and McNeil to delete it after no substantial objections were posted.  I don't see any need for an admin to undelete it, just in case one of the anti-revisionists wishes to object later.
 * Lets resolve the question of a retraction notice at Water Cooler. (Water cooler/policy)
 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:50, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections
Are you sure it is appropriate for you to be putting questions to ArbCom candidates? --Brian McNeil / talk 02:37, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Why wouldn't it be appropriate? I'm not indicating support for any candidate, and I intend to ask all of them a question. Benny the mascot (talk) 02:42, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The very act of involving yourself in the election is questionable if you are responsible for overseeing it. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:04, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

 * To my mind, Benny may ask general questions aimed at all candidates but must be very careful if he does so. Should a judge ask questions? Great minds could argue that for decades. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:18, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Restoring Saki's interview

 * 1) I think you clicked the wrong button to restore, as there seems to be no history restored with it.
 * 2) Are you sure you want to do this?  I can't see any advantage to doing so, as the deletion debate suggests that he will never be allowed to publish it.  The disadvantage is that, while it is not linked from the main page or the archives, it is still visible to the public.
 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:23, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

 * I don't know exactly how to do that. I guess I'll just keep playing with the admin buttons until I figure it out. :P
 * He wanted it restored for his own historical purposes, and I really don't see any reason to deny his request. Besides, the interview already has been copied on other websites, which makes your last point moot. Benny the mascot (talk) 15:30, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * (Re 2) In that case I will post our retraction notice at the top, to make our position clear to visitors who don't know about user pages. --InfantGorilla (talk) 15:54, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks! Benny the mascot (talk) 16:00, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Should we protect it too?
 * If it is already mirrored to other sites, can't he make his historical record from there?
 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 16:04, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * If you'd like to protect it, then go ahead. As for your second point, Saki wishes to appeal the deletion on DR. Over the next few days, I'll be reexamining all of the information that's come through, and hopefully I can help him out with that undeletion request. (For the record, I think this whole thing is a huge mess that nobody can be satisfied with. We'll just have to work with what we got.) :( Benny the mascot (talk) 17:16, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Could you please e-mail me current version of the interview article as Brianmc deleted it alrady. --Saki (talk) 17:24, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Given the state of this whole mess, please seek community consensus before emailing it. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:27, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Here we go again ... I don't see any big advantage to recreating it publicly (emailing it should be okay in my opinion if saki wants it), but at the same time I don't know that there's justification in deletion policy for forcibly suppressing it from userspace (it's not obviously disruptive, vandalism, or any other criteria under which we'd speedy delete user subpages, AFAIK). If anyone wants to pursue restoration, though, I'd suggest filing an undeletion request at WN:DR. Tempodivalse [talk]  17:42, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Saki's interview can be restored when hell freezes over, with him about 40 feet under the ice sheet. I don't give a damn where, but not on this wiki. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:55, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

 * To my mind a deletion review will overstep the limits of Saki's unblock probation. After an overwhelming vote for retraction, it will be unnecessary wikidrama.  Accusations of disruption are thrown about here for far less.  Why don't you encourage him to let this lie? It will be a good way from him to demonstrate his newly discovered good faith.   --InfantGorilla (talk) 18:14, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I think Saki should wait and demonstrate he is 'trusted' enough to get the interview back. I encourage writing some articles, but zero original reporting. News Google is a good start. Diego Grez return fire 18:18, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Just to interject my random opinion, I think saki should be allowed to get a copy of his interview if he wants (its his interview after all), but it shouldn't be publicly re-created on wikinews, and in general, we (wikinews) should distance ourselves from the interview as much as possible. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:10, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, Bawolff is right... Diego Grez return fire 19:12, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Under no circumstances would I give him a copy of that and risk him going and publishing the partial-birth abortion that it was elsewhere. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:53, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm with Brian, for a change. If he doesn't have access to a copy of it, he has only himself to blame.  He and the rest of the world are better off without it (unless we need a copy for our ethics casebook.)  --InfantGorilla (talk) 20:01, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I offered to email Saki a copy of the article, in exchange for him not posting it anywhere on Wikinews or raising the issue again. He has accepted, so hopefully we can now put this behind us. the wub "?!"  08:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Something for you...

 * Wow! Thank you so much! :) Benny the mascot (talk) 23:09, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Drunken Man surprised Crocodile bit him
Can you review this please =)BKCW8''' talk  07:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Australian Prime Minister denies striking a deal with predecessor
Can you review this? please and thank BKCW8''' talk  08:20, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Done, -- Nascar 1996  14:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Request for new username
Please see here my request and comment. --Saki (talk) 06:40, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Did you read comment of McNiel here?. I'm sure, my request at WP:CHU will be rejected. --Saki (talk) 13:28, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Brian McNeil isn't the only bureaucrat on Wikinews. I'm sure your request will be thoroughly considered by a neutral party. Benny the mascot (talk) 13:43, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It isn't a matter of neutrality here Benny. Look at Xyr comment here - reference to a Wikipedia shortcut. How long, and how often, has Saki/Saqib/god-knows-what-else been turning up here? Still knows squat about the policies. I think, given the trouble caused by this user it is perfectly reasonable to offer to put them back on their original username and on probation. I will not oversee it, but I do not want another "semi-vanish" then pop up and create havoc 6-12 months down the road. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:16, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Fire strikes Slovak Academy of Sciences
EPR didn't sight the article, so it showed up at Aricles mispublished. I sighted it for you. --Pi zero (talk) 04:09, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Benny the mascot (talk) 14:44, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Inappropriate, uncalled-for, insinuations
I a most unhappy at your comment and reference to the Saki/Saqib issue in the latest WikiWitchhunt.

It seems sad that in kicking off the latest drama, HJ appears to be ignoring his own part in causing the latest mess I've had to work on cleaning up.

Perhaps you don't understand the role, and responsibilities attached to being a 'crat; I've always understood it to include the "dirtiest" cleanup jobs. Who would you rather closed that? It needed done. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk 07:16, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * WN:A says that we currently have 55 administrators, who are all equally capable of closing that debate. Surely someone uninvolved must have been available that day! The discussion involved several contributors who were heavily divided on the issue, and having an involved administrator close it threatens the integrity of the democratic processes that govern this project. Benny the mascot (talk) 04:24, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Certificate of participation

 * ummm ... a bit late, but thanks! Benny the mascot (talk) 14:07, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration Committee/2010 election/Judging
Sigh. Why can't we retain editors anymore?  — fetch · comms  20:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and Blurpeace has left as well. At least the election mess is over.  — fetch · comms  21:52, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * (sigh) Yes, at least the election mess is over. :( Benny the mascot (talk) 22:00, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

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US unemployment rate remains unchanged at 9.5% in July

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The United States unemployment rate remained unchanged at a high 9.5% as employers and companies remained nervous about hiring new workers and the public sector laid off 143,000 temporary  workers during July. State and local governments, facing major budget deficits, also laid off many people.

Overall, the 131,000 jobs lost during July far exceeded economist's predictions of 65,000 jobs lost. The private sector added just 71,000 jobs during July, also less than the 90,000 economists predicted. Around 200,000 gains each month are needed just to hold the unemployment rate steady against first time entrants into the job market. Including the Census workers, the government laid off 202,000 people at federal, state, and local levels.

Though the unemployment rate remained at 9.5%, many discouraged job-seekers have given up looking for a position. Those who have given up are not counted as unemployed. The workforce participation rate, which counts those people as not participating in the workforce, dropped to 64.6% from 64.7% in June. The underemployment rate, which counts part-time laborers looking for a full-time job and those discouraged workers, was flat at 16.5% from June.

The also revised their job report for June. The new version now states that 221,000 jobs were lost in June, worse than the previous estimate of 125,000. The previous estimate also said that 83,000 private sector jobs were created, however the new estimate says that just 31,000 private positions were filled.

Despite this, most economists were fairly confident that though there would be slower growth in the future, the country wouldn't slip into another recession.

"Slower growth looks certain, but it's not a double dip," said economist Mark Vitner. Economists Jim O'Sullivan and Dean Maki say that jobs gains will pick up to 170,000 a month by the fourth quarter. Vitner says that jobs will gain at 87,000 per month for the rest of 2010.

The manufacturing industry has added 183,000 jobs this year including 36,000 in July. Some American companies are shifting overseas manufacturing jobs back to the US, primarily citing rising costs of doing business in and decreased wages in the US, among other considerations such as long supply lines and difficulty protecting intellectual property rights in. has relocated production of their new energy efficient water heaters to the US, while has brought 2,000 jobs to the US from suppliers, including those from overseas.


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Thread:Comments:Football: Coach of North Korea condemned to hard labor/In related news,

North Korea has today declared that they did, in fact, win the World Cup and that they are totally awesome, guys. You may now bow to the splendor of the great eternal leader.

I'm just irritated that China still backs them. God, they're so desperate for a puppet of their own that they'll back THAT?


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Welsh policemen smash 70-year-old's SUV windows

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Two police officers in, Wales have been taken off duty after they allegedly smashed the windows of an SUV.

One officer supposedly struck a window with his baton, while the other jumped on the bonnet (hood) and kicked the windshield.

The driver, 70-year old Robert Whatley, was stopped for not wearing his seatbelt September 9, 2009.

A retired businessman from, Whatley is a stroke victim and takes medication for his heart condition. He was driving away while he was being issued a. He thought that the police were finished with him, and he needed his medication, he told magistrates court. He was convicted of motoring offences today at the conclusion of a two-day trial but cleared of failure to stop after an accident. It had been alleged he struck an officer with his car as he drove away.

Deputy Chief Constable Carmel Napier said " expects the highest professional standards of its police officers and police staff at all times and we can assure Mr. Whatley and the public that this matter will be thoroughly investigated."


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Just shove an emergency whole-airframe parachute onto them.


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North Koreans need to stop acting like babies. They need to sympathize with the team, give them better training, not put a coach to hard labor! Idiots!


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Qin says that the men were shot "on suspicion of crossing the border for trade activities", and that "China attaches great importance to that and has immediately raised a solemn representation with the DPRK [Democratic People's Republic of Korea, the legal name of North Korea]". He reports that the incident is currently under investigation, but refuses to comment on the validity of the accusations. "In the aftermath of the incident, China has paid a lot of attention to this issue and has made a formal diplomatic protest to North Korea," said Qin. {{QuoteRight|It is rare for China to publicly complain. Usually there is a private apology or money paid|source=Heung Gwang}} China is North Korea's primary source of international trade, and illegal traders crossing the border are perceived as a great threat. North Korea is also involved in a dispute with its neighbour, South Korea, regarding the sinking of a South Korean ship in March, killing 46 people; while an international committee found that North Korea was responsible, China refuses to place any blame on the nation, which it sees as an ally. Heung Gwang, a former North Korean college professor and head of Seoul-based North Korea Intellectuals Solidarity, said that because of this "it is rare for China to publicly complain. Usually there is a private apology or money paid."

Dandong is the site of the Sino-Korea Friendship Bridge, a commemoration of China's aid of North Korea during the Korean War of the 1950s. The Chinese people were reported to be in a boat when they were shot, for allegedly carrying copper wire out of North Korea and into China.

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Wildfires in Russia cover Moscow in smoke

August 7, 2010

Massive wildfires in western and central Russia have killed at least 52 people and blanketed Moscow in dense smoke and. According to , around 560 fires were still burning on Friday.

More than 800 wildfires have been reported this week in Russia, which is currently suffering from the worst heat since records began over 130 years ago. Since June, temperatures in the country have been rising, and Moscow was expected to reach over 100 degrees Fahrenheit (37.78 degrees Celsius) on Friday, about 25 degrees Fahrenheit (15 degrees Celsius) above the normal temperature for this time of the year.

The environmental protection agency of Russia's capital has already stated that {w|carbon monoxide}} levels in the city's air were five times as high as safe levels and that pollution levels were three times as high as safe levels.

The dense smoke also caused chaos at Moscow airports. Visibility at was reportedly around 400 yards (365.76 metres) on Friday, and many flights were either delayed or arrived late.

At Russia's Alabinsk military base, located around 45 miles (72.42 kilometres) southwest of Moscow, were moved to a location where they would not be threatened by the fires, said. The fires also burned close to a nuclear missile warning site near Moscow, but a spokesperson for the said that the warning center's fire brigades had extinguished two fires in the area. Previously, materials from a nuclear research center in were moved out of the way of fires to avoid a possible explosion occurring.

Russian officials have received criticism over their handling of the blazes. Last week, Russia's president, Dmitri Medvedev, dismissed five military officers for letting a fire burn hangars at an air base near Moscow. One of Medvedev's aides said on Friday that mayors will be debriefed and that those who did not adequately respond to the wildfires "will be brought to justice." Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said last week that local officials not dealing with the fires should resign.

The spree of wildfires has left at least 3,000 people without homes. Seven regions are now under a state of emergency, and 28 more are under a state of emergency for farmers with crops failing in the heat.

Fire crews from other nations in both Europe and Asia were arriving to help fight the fires, and a shelter was set up in to support 150 children from central Russia who were displaced by the crisis.


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Comments:Television appeal for 1984 murder in Bath, England

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could you please find more articles to add to this there is plenty on the internet ? This is the murder of my sister and although it may have happened 26 years ago, for me it is still raw and as if it happened yesterday. I am asking this to raise awarness and bring her murderer to justice. thank you —81.132.128.101 (talk) 21:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


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User talk:KuduIO

Interview documentation
I'm impressed by how much you were able to do to address my review comments. It's quite gratifying to see someone able and willing to address such concerns.

I'd like a clarification regarding the status of the interview transcript. Is there no record of the interview itself remaining except the article text? IRC being a very ephemeral medium. --Pi zero (talk) 23:31, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :) I added some more notes which will hopefully increase accountability.  Kudu ~I/O~ 00:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Election committee
I invite you to introduce yourself at the elections thread on the water cooler, to let the community know who is volunteering for the election committee. :-) --Pi zero (talk) 12:39, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

 * Sure, I posted a short introduction.  Kudu ~I/O~ 14:30, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is indicted
Would you want Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is indicted restored to your userspace? — Mike moral  ♪♫  00:31, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

 * Yes, please.  Kudu ~I/O~ 00:32, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

 * ✅ It's been restored to User:KuduIO/Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is indicted with the talk page. :) — Mike moral  ♪♫  00:36, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

 * Thanks!  Kudu ~I/O~ 01:09, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

I've userfied User:KuduIO/'Al-Qaeda inspired' bomb plot stopped by Canadian police as well. — Mike moral  ♪♫  03:32, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

ArbCom elections
Hi KudulO, nice job with the draft! I'm wondering if we should mention the level of participation and the ineligible votes (you know, a few percentages), but that may be complicating it unnecesarily. Want to do the honours and make it official? :-) Raystorm (talk) 06:42, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I like the idea of the statistics, but I'm not sure where to find the number of active users or some other figure to which to compare the number of voters.  Kudu ~I/O~ 15:53, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Since the committee is visibly in agreement, I've performed the administrivia of moving the Results/Draft page to Results and updating the committee members list. --Pi zero (talk) 15:04, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks!  Kudu ~I/O~ 18:07, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Assistance with understanding how much original reporting costs
Hello and I apologize for writing in English. As all language Wikinews improves, The Wikinewsie Group wants to be able better support original reporting done by contributors like you. One of our newsletters at The Wikinewsie Group/Newsletter said you have recently published an original report. This is why I am contacting you.

Members of the The Wikinewsie Group are trying to assess the costs associated with original reporting across all Wikinews projects. This way, we can determine how much original reporting currently costs, who is paying for it, what Wikinews and other projects get for these costs (especially when paid for by unpaid, volunteer contributor reporters). This information can then be used in applying for grants, measuring the success of Wikinews original reporting and seeing how reporters can be better supported. If you could complete this survey on that topic, we would very much appreciate it. We will try to anonymize the responses as best possible when writing up any report. Thank you very much for taking the time to fill it out (especially in English). Please do not hesitate to ask me or pi zero about any questions you may have about this research. We hope the results will enable us to better assist you in conducting more original reporting on Wikinews. --LauraHale (talk) 08:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Done.  Kudu ~I/O~ 15:51, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

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