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Algerian teen falls to death in Mecca; rape, murder suspected

September 17, 2010

Rape and murder are suspected after a 15-year-old girl fell to her death from a hotel in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. Police yesterday announced that they have arrested four men over her death, suspecting that she fell from her balcony after she was either pushed or jumped trying to escape being raped.

The young woman had arrived in Mecca from her home in Marseille, France to undertake the pilgrimage of. She was staying in Al-Ghazzah District's Al-Muhajireen Hotel, which is close to the (or "Grand Mosque"), along with her Algerian mother, French father and seven-year-old brother.

She landed on the roof of a neighbouring hotel, where she struck and slightly injured two Bangladeshi men working there. She had been missing since 9 p.m. local time on Tuesday, and was due to leave on Wednesday morning, when she died. Following the death, around 300 fellow Algerian Muslim pilgrims closed down the road past the hotel in protest, seeking an audience with their ambassador and prosecutions for the suspected offences.

Mecca Police director Brigadier General Ibrahim Al-Hamzi sent security teams to negotiate with the crowds. After three hours, the road was reopened. Police spokesman Major Abdul Mohsin Al-Maiman says criminal investigators and a forensics expert have examined the body and four workers at the Al-Muhajireen Hotel have been arrested; two Yemeni men and two Bangladeshi men.

The Saudi Gazette reports on anonymous sources claiming that the Yemenis should not have been in the country and were working illegaly. The Gazette also reported on allegations that one suspect has admitted entering a relationship with the girl, but not the source of this information. The suspects were transported to Al-Qararah Police Station for interrogation and the General Prosecution and Investigation Board is expected to take over the case.

The body is awaiting detailed examination at the morgue of King Faisal Hospital in Al-Shisha. A coronor's preliminary findings indicated she had suffered multiple fractures. Initial medical reports support rape prior to her death shortly after midnight. Al-Maiman says she died on impact.


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Story idea: Examiner.com 2.0 transition
I am a citizen journalist on Examiner.com. That site has been going through a fairly massive and rather problematic system & formatting overhaul. Many of its editors are taking a "wait and see" approach until authoring more content for publication. I have learned this from e-mails, teleconferences that include staff and writers, and just watching the bug report page.

Two questions: (1) Am I too "close" to this situation to report on it objectively? Are my personal experiences and sources sufficient for an article here? (2) Is this matter even newsworthy? As far as I know, no mainstream media have picked up on this, because the site to outside readers appears in fair working order, but to insiders (the journalists) it has been a bit of a nightmare.

I look forward to feedback. -- Thekohser (talk) 20:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Yes, but yes.
 * Generally, if the news event is discrete, and of interest to larger than a neighborhood. This doesn't seem likely to meet the latter element; it would likely be of interest only to the 'insiders'.
 * Just my opinions. -  Amgine | t 02:40, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Yes, from the wah you put it across, far too close.
 * It might be news, I too would question the scope of audience. I am concerned in the way you present this. You imply lots of damning evidence exists. A good journalist would want their side of the story; as well as scope of interest, you give no positive opening to talk to them with. --Brian McNeil / talk 04:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Isn't the Portal:Virginia designed with the specific purpose of accommodating this very kind of news report (a report, I note, that hasn't yet been created)? A place for a topic that might be deemed something that is not newsworthy of the Main Page, but yet newsworthy of the Virginia Portal. 24.125.55.90 (talk) 05:26, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, it has nothing to do with the Virginia Portal. -- Thekohser (talk) 17:14, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks to those of you who responded. By the way, I am a supporter of Examiner.com's management and staff, too. Of course, had I written the story, I would have actively solicited their feedback and POV. I think they have been doing much to remedy many of the problems. It's just that there are so many that have cropped up, it's taking much longer than expected to iron them out. I guess I will not write about this particular issue, though, as it seems that it wouldn't qualify on the "interest to many" parameter. -- Thekohser (talk) 17:14, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * You mention what I'd likely characterise as 'software development woes'. Having over 20 years experience in IT, I can confirm these are commonplace in any project to implement substantial changes. You've likely no idea how much, uh, 'crap' gets unceremoniously shoved under the carpet and jumped on to hide the lumps. I've seen millions spent on systems with one bad decision early on, and the whole thing has to be scrapped - usually after a substantial overrun and the responsible manager has moved on, claiming glory for starting the ill-fated project. Or, you decide you want what seem like 'cosmetic' changes, only to find the system is a collection of kludges. If I'd a dollar for every time some wizz kid near-killed a company through championing the wrong tool for the job because they'd the relevant Microsoft certification,....
 * A wise engineer from d|i|g|i|t|a|l once told me, '"Legacy" means software that works'. I can attest to that from my own experience, including working on systems older than myself (I'm 41).
 * Examiner.com may just be discovering their original developers sticky-plastered over bugs in hastily developed stuff, upgrades then become very high-risk, and there are edge cases we used to delight in saying, 'that's not a bug, it's a feature'. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Need to upload non-free fair use image (not to Commons)
Hi, I'm new around here, so I am still feeling my way around. I just wrote a story, Tulsa media erroneously reports San Diego Comic Con Pedobear was 'Registered Sex Offender', and I want to upload a fair-use image: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4124/4993399071_989e884a36_m.jpg But when I use the Free Use media upload link, it goes to Commons, which will of course delete it as a non-free image. I appear not to have permission to upload directly to WikiNews. Please help? Kevyn (talk) 18:00, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

 * ✅ Uploaded as File:Pedobear.jpg. Regards. --Diego Grez return fire 18:39, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Kevyn (talk) 20:28, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Well, of course it does. Why would you click free use when you've stated that you know it's non-free? Also, there isn't any such thing as WikiNews. You might be thinking of Wikinews. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Fair use upload is probably not possible for unconfirmed users like Kevyn. Perhaps the 'Upload fair use media' media link is invisible to them (it is hidden from unregistered users.) Anyone know? Has this confused other new users? --InfantGorilla (talk) 16:00, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, that link was not available to me, even though I registered this account in 2006. It's still not available to me. Kevyn (talk) 05:58, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I withdraw my yelling at you, then. We need to get that changed. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:21, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Even an '06 account will be subject to the minimum edit count required for confirmation. Please keep contributing Kevin, you'll soon - automagically - get the Fair Use upload link. It is waaaaay down the list of options. What's absolutely verboten for Wikinews is "images from competing news agencies". --Brian McNeil / talk 16:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

WN:ARCHIVE exception for "Bicentennial of Chile"
I have created an article about the Chile Bicentennial (now at Prepared Stories). There is not much information right now on the event, except for things that have been done earlier this month. I've got a chance to travel all over O'Higgins Region this 19th, and I would like to ask you all if a exception for this article being majorly edited 2 days after it is published (if it is published today, hopefully). WN:ARCHIVE disallows this, but well, I strongly ask you to let me do this, it will be an extremely in-depth article. Thanks, Diego Grez return fire 19:34, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The most of the events will occur tomorrow and on 19th. --Diego Grez return fire 19:34, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Why not publish the article today, and then a second one tomorrow? Chilean Bicentennial celebrations get underway followed by Wikinews reports from O'Higgins Region on Chilean Bicentennial celebrations? (or something similar). Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:55, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Dunno. I was hoping to have just one, concise article on the whole event. --Diego Grez return fire 00:25, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Diego, do what the MSM do; substantially recycle from the first in the second. And, take pictures. Lots of pictures. Make the 2nd more photoessay. ;-) --Brian McNeil / talk 16:38, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Help to edit and clean up news article for publication
✅ Could someone do a sub-edit of this article asap [http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Iconic_London_mural_could_be_restored].

Issues have been flagged by a reviewer and I have addressed them but I am a the original writer of the story and so not in a position to judge my own edits.

Bold re-write needed. All sources and info are there. --Thegiantrodent (talk) 10:00, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

 * The article does not need to be re-written. If you had actually read the comments, you would know that it is not going to be published altogether—the reviewer stated that: "The sources are way out of date - the newest one being ten days old. Also, I don't think that this article is newsworthy but it's disputable ... As it stands, this article is too out-of-date to be published. Sorry." Essentially, the article is far too out of date to be news, and it is debatable whether it is actually notable at all.  Wackywace dictaphone 10:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I had not read the comments you refer to as they were made by a second reviewer. I had responded to the first reviewer who made different comments and it was those I addressed. I dispute the article being out of date. It is an emerging story that has only been covered in a quarterly community paper and then a local weekly paper. The story relates to a proposal to restore a wall mural and public meeting to endorse or object to the proposal. The site of the mural is on one of London's main thoroughfares yet the story has not been covered in any of London's main dailies. The story could well be picked up by one of these papers in the next 48 hours.

 * Stories like these often are brought to light by community papers and newsletters, then are picked up by a local weekly before attracting the attention of mainstream press. This often takes time, sometimes weeks or months. For example, compare this story Historic London districts re-branded Midtown. Or have they? by the community newspaper Fitzrovia News published 12 August and the same story Historic London districts 'rebranded' Midtown on the BBC News site published more than four weeks later on 17 September. --Thegiantrodent (talk) 11:38, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

 * It's clearly news, though of the local variety. If we can cover car accidents, we can easily cover this. However, the sources do disagree strongly with the idea it isn't out of date. What new developments are there? Facts don't cease to be facts, but news ceases to be news. Somebody mentioned that in two days there will be a new development; why not save the article for use then? All the text is perfectly usable in an updated piece. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 11:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Local variety? The mural was rated by London's Time Out as the most notable mural in London (source in article). It is on Tottenham Court Road, one of London's most well-known streets. The article relates to a public meeting to take place on Tuesday 21 September to discuss the proposals. This is still a current news story and it is in the public interest to highlight the proposal and decide if it is worthy of public support and money. After Tuesday it will be a different story and less newsworthy as it will be after the event.--Thegiantrodent (talk) 11:58, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

 * London, London, London. If there is information to suggest it is of importance beyond one city (and I'm no art critic, so I've no idea if it is or not) then point this out in the article. Wikinews writes for all inhabitants on Planet Earth, and most of them, contrary to popular belief, do not live in London. I don't understand how a story on something a few hours old is less newsworthy than a story where the latest development was over a week ago. The article in its present form would have been great if it had been written at the time. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Which is why it is in the London section not Planet Earth :o)

 * That's one of the most disingenuous things I've ever read. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:21, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Then you should read more widely or get out more :o)--Thegiantrodent (talk) 13:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

 * It's irrelevant whether the article is only of interest to inhabitants of London. To be news, the number of people it's of interest to only needs to be more than a few hundred.  To conform to our style guide, the significance of the story should be explained for an international audience, which is independent of whether they're interested once it's been explained to them.

 * Other requirements for it to be news include that it describe an event that has taken place within the past week, and that some of its information has come to light within the last two to three days. It's quite possible to work within that framework to rescue material that would on its own be stale, if there is a new development in the story.  Just remember that the article has to be written so that the central event —the event described by the headline and lede— is something that has happened within the past week; and, again, some of the information has to have come to light within the past two to three days.  --Pi zero (talk) 16:40, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks for everyone's comments. These have been really useful. And I should apologise to Blood Red Sandman. His points are valid as much as ones I'd like to hear. After a suggestion by Pi Zero and Rayboy8 I've done some original reporting, posted the notes in the collaboration page and hoping to get through the review stage. Wish me luck! :o)

 * Accepted. Good to see you moving forward with this. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:33, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for everyone's help. Just one stumbling block to go. One of the sources uses a Creative Commons license for non-commercial reproduction. I take that means I can use whole sentences from the CC articles for Wikinews which is or course non-commercial, without having to do a re-write? At the moment the article is still failing on a copyright issue. Help still needed. But we're getting there...!--Thegiantrodent (talk) 20:34, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I've now re-written a few sentences to get around the copyright issues. I'm still not clear as to why a source that uses a CC licence can't be re-produced. But apparently Wikipedia sentences can't be ued either if I understand the guidance correctly. --Thegiantrodent (talk) 21:08, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

(unindent) If it's a non-commercial licence, then it's incompatible with ours because we have a CC licence that lets you do... well, anything you want with it. I can't recall off-hand why our's and Wikipedia's are incompatible. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:57, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks Blood Red Sandman. I've now re-written the offending copyright sentences and addressed all the outstanding issues. Hopefully It'll pass the next review--Thegiantrodent (talk) 09:16, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks to everyone who edited, reviewed, argued and made suggestions to get this story published. Much appreciated --Thegiantrodent (talk) 23:04, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Old News
Roger Craig (Jeopardy! contestant) is being considered for deletion as a person notable for one event only. Because the event happened in the past two weeks, I thought about adding it to Wikinews. However, I found out about the 3-day deadline. What should I do? Us441 (talk) 12:12, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

 * There's not a lot you can do, really. Facts don't cease to be facts, but news ceases to be news. Perhaps we could try to get an interview with xyr? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:17, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

 * What or who is xyr? Us441 (talk) 12:26, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

 * xyr is the him/her/etc version of xe, a gender-irrelevant pronoun. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:29, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

 * How do I interview him? Us441 (talk) 12:32, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Following the link to xyr website on enwp, there's an email address given. I would say the best way to do it is to settle down as a community and work out the questions we'll use; we can afford to consider for a day or two. Obvously, it would likely be mainly your show, with feedback and suggestions added in, though I suggest the actual emailing be done by a long-term member of the community. That makes the verification easier - otherwise someone'd have to scrutinise your contributions elsewhere to decide if you could be trusted not to make it all up. A pain, but an important safety catch. However, if someone who's already been through the whole building trust thing does the emailing, that makes reviewing the article so much easier. (If you're lost by the whole verification/review process, check out For Wikipedians.) Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:39, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Luzhkov sacking
Is there no story on the sacking of Yuri Luzhkov on Wikinews? I couldn't find one, but maybe I was looking in the wrong places. 62.145.19.66 (talk) 14:11, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Yuri Luzhkov's dismissal as Mayor of Moscow is probably motivated due to xyr recent comments in support of Prime Minister Putin at the expense of President Medvedev. I hope you'll be interested in writing a quick synopsis of the salient points. You can easily start the article via the links at the Newsroom. When I looked I did not see an article under development on this subject, but you should double check the lists in the Newsroom. -  Amgine | t 17:17, 28 September 2010 (UTC)


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Facebook Places launches in UK

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, a location-publicising service that was released in the United States in August, has now become available to users in the United Kingdom. The service was released in Japan earlier this week. Previously, some people in the UK who use Facebook's application discovered that they were able to use the service.

This service allows individuals to publicise their location, or "check in", in a way similar to the one used by and. Users of Facebook Places will be able to establish if any of their Facebook "friends" are or have been in the vicinity if both decide to "check in". The service will become available to other parts of Europe "as soon as possible", stated Michael Sharon, Facebook Places' product manager.

Sharon commented: "We wanted to prepare a robust set of privacy controls. I'm really proud of what we've done with the Places privacy settings because they are unprecedented in the industry at this moment in time. We think Here Now [which shows users if other Facebookers are in the area] is a fantastic feature. It's a great way to meet new interesting people, but we also know some people wouldn't like to use the feature – they just want to share with friends or friends of friends – so we took care to turn it on for only some people. Some people explicitly let us know that they just want to share with a certain group so we changed the settings from the default for them – of course they can opt back in at a later time."

"One of the major issues is the way that Facebook have implemented his functionality," mentioned Trend Micro's Rik Ferguson. Having had a trial use of the service upon its launch yesterday, Ferguson continued: "By default, users are opted in to the ability to be tagged by their friends, they are opted in to allowing their friends' Facebook apps to access their location information, and they are opted in to allowing 'non-friends' checked-in to the same place to see their whereabouts. This is all backwards - this should be deployed on a purely opt-in basis and no information about my whereabouts should be posted without my explicit consent, every single time a post is made."

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Continental and United Airlines shareholders approve merger

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United Airlines and Continental Airlines shareholders yesterday approved a 3.2 billion merger that would create the world's largest airline. 98% of shareholders approved of the deal.

In the deal, United stockholders will hold 55% of the company, while Continental stockholders will get 1.05 new shares for each Continental share and will hold the remaining 45% of the company. The deal was earlier approved by United States regulators. The new company, which keeps United's name but Continental's globe logo, has little overlap in its route network, and will be headed by Continental CEO Jeff Smisek.

The new company surpasses rival Delta Air Lines, which merged only a year ago, to become the world's largest.

The airlines expect to complete the merger by October 1 of this year, and customers can expect to see major changes in spring 2011, when the new United will rebrand their kiosks, worker uniforms and airplanes. The new company is calling the day when they rebrand "Customer Day One".

"Our stockholders recognized the value of bringing together Continental and United to create a platform for increased profitability and sustainable, long-term growth," Smisek announced after the merger.

Some analysts agree. "No further obstacles to the merger are likely at this point," Jim Corridore, 's equity analyst, said to investors. Corridore also said that "we are positive on the planned merger, which we think creates an extremely strong global route network with opportunities for cost and revenue synergies."

Other people were less positive about the merger. Rick Seaney, CEO of FareCompare.com, said that "losing a major competitor is likely to make prices rise — all things equal on the economy and fuel prices." Also, a lawsuit in California accusing the merger of monopolizing the market and raising fares has been filed by lawyer Joseph Alioto, who claims that he represents consumers. United and Continental have defended themselves against accusations of monopolizing the airline industry by stating that they compete with low-cost carriers such as on three quarters of their US network. The airlines have also said that the low overlap and the low-cost competition will bring fares to heel.


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The sources given on the article only reference the lead section of the article. The Pichilemu section is complete OR, and I tried to use as many pictures as possible to make it better-looking and as some kind of reference. Alicia Grez is my sister by the way <_< --Diego Grez return fire 03:35, 18 September 2010 (UTC)


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Why do we care what he's to say? —198.53.208.86 (talk) 04:28, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Because it's the Pope? --Diego Grez return fire 04:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Seriously, that's probably the stupid question I've ever seen on Wiki. Anyone with any intelligence knows how important the Pope is, even if they're not Catholic. They've been pretty much the dominant religious leaders for thousands of years now, and make a lot of rules and such that benefit society as a whole. I'm a little late on responding, but oh well. 209.106.46.161 (talk) 18:11, 21 March 2011 (UTC)


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The article at George j padayatty has been proposed for deletion - it doesn't indicate its sources, nor include all the basic what/when/where/why/who needed in a news article.

If you are the subject of a proposed news article, then you could request an interview.
 * Request an interview.

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Iconic London mural could be restored

September 20, 2010

One of London's most well known could be restored after years of neglect if plans by a group of community activists gain public support. The Mural at Whitfield Gardens on London's  was created by two mural artists and commissioned by Camden Council in 1980, but the mural has since decayed and been vandalised.

Plans will be presented at a public meeting this Tuesday, to include details of the restoration and promote local public space in contrast to potential commercial developments and the focus of the London 2012 Olympics. If enough funds are raised from charitable trusts and public donations the mural could be restored during the summer of 2011.

Plans to be put forward by the Fitzrovia Neighbourhood Association, and the, will present ways to fund not only the restoration work but also projects to raise awareness of conservation, heritage, and the residential and working community. The heritage and mural project hopes to involve many local people who could learn new conservation skills. Also planned are workshops with local children to involve them in their heritage, an exhibition by local artists, guided tours and a celebratory event at the end of the restoration project. In addition to this, a booklet would be produced containing collected oral histories of the people involved and a preservation trust to protect the mural in future years.

The playful painting was created on a Camden Council-owned building in 1980 by artists Mick Jones, (son of the late, trade union leader) and Simon Barber and is a mash up of scenes depicting problems faced by the neighbourhood over the preceding decade.

There is also a caricature of poet, who lived in Fitzrovia, and a mocking portrayal of then leader of the Greater London Council, Conservative politician , who is pictured as a bat-like creature. Other characters include an anonymous greedy developer and a property speculator counting piles of cash.

Peter Whyatt of the neighbourhood association is jointly leading the project to restore the mural. Yesterday he told Wikinews he had a number of concerns about the possible success of the project.

“There are a great number of problems with getting this project off the ground and we also need to act pretty quickly for a number of reasons," said Mr Whyatt.

“Firstly the mural is in a terrible state and deteriorating quickly. There is more graffiti being daubed on the site every month because one bit of graffiti attracts another bit. We really need to start the work in the next 12 months because going through another winter with the condition of the wall will causes more problems and inevitably more expense. We want to keep as much original artwork on the site as possible to keep the costs down. This is a big mural and it will be expensive to restore," he continued.

“And that brings me to my second concern: cost. If we don’t get other community organisations on board to bid for money for this with us and to involve their beneficiaries and volunteers, it will be very difficult to secure the money needed. Money is very tight at the moment because to the current financial climate. We need to get support at this meeting on Tuesday and some firm commitments from people and organisations to get involved.

“Lastly there is a danger of a commercial development on the site. A public-private partnership to create a new art feature. Because of the existing mural’s subject matter – it mocks property speculators, and land developers, etc – a commercial scheme probably backed by a property developer would not want to restore the mural’s original message. They’d want some “good news” scheme, some greenwash idea that paints them in a positive light.

“However, despite these problems, Camden Council have offered to do a condition survey on the mural. This will save us a lot of money. But having said that there are five council departments to deal with to get permission for this restoration work, and they don’t always talk to each other.

“But if the public and local voluntary organisations show their support, we can make it happen," Mr Whyatt concluded.

The mural restoration will be just one part of a year long project of heritage and conservation awareness-raising. "The project is not just about the mural but also wider plans to promote awareness of heritage and conservation in an area of London under threat from commercial development. In fact the bulk of the project is about the heritage and conservation and the mural is just one part of it, and the most visible because of its situation," Mr Whyatt later added.

There will be a public meeting about the heritage and mural project at 7.30 pm tomorrow (Tuesday), at the Neighbourhood Centre, 39 Tottenham Street. The public can also comment about the proposals on the Fitzrovia Heritage and Mural website.

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archiving tamil wikinews
I would like to know how to archive news of age greather than 7 days. Is Category:archived is enough as what published do for publishing the news? Please help me to do it for tamil wikinews. Thanks. Mahir78 (talk) 16:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

 * The current program for archiving used on en.Wikinews can be found on the archive policy page. There are essentially three steps:
 * An admin examines articles which are older than 7 days, checking for vandalism and changes, ensuring the article meets policy standards.
 * The admin adds the template to the article, which adds both the Category:Archived and a brief note stating the article is now part of the wiki's archives.
 * The admin Protects the article, so contributors can no longer edit the article.
 * I hope that answers your questions, but if not please ask more. We'll be happy to help tamil wikinews. -  Amgine | t 20:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your reply.
 * I thought after adding template  (with Category:Archived in it) will protect automatically (by any settings?). Anyway your points helps me to get started. Thanks a lot for your reply. - Mahir78 (talk) 14:21, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Unfortunately, no, no one has written a bot to automatically archive articles which have had the template added. It would be very useful if someone would do so, but there is concern a vandal or new user might edit an article shortly before it is archived, damaging the article. A bot would not notice the vandalism or error, but hopefully a human would do so. -  Amgine | t 01:51, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Inputbox vs mw:Extension:CreateArticle
Inputbox is used to quickly start an article using a form textbox for the title. It's heavily modded to do searches in mediawiki databases, and in fact that's it's primary purpose these days.

Now that Wikinews no longer allows transclusion of articles, only subpages (which undoubtedly shattered a number of our archived news efforts), there are some project ideas which need to be able to create subpages, rather than main space article titles. This doesn't work for a proposed Wikinews Shorts idea using the current Inputbox extension. However, the derivative CreateArticle extension would allow automated subpage creation, and at the same time seamlessly replace Inputbox if desired (but not necessary; both extensions can work on the same mediawiki installation.)

I think we should make a bug report requesting the extension be added to en.Wikinews. Thoughts? -  Amgine | t 20:28, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Which part of the Wikinews Shorts idea that need software support? --InfantGorilla (talk) 07:59, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Three parts:
 * In creating the new short, it would be preferred to ensure the title begins with "In brief: ", or a similar prefix.
 * In marking the short for review, a js tool to add the.
 * An extension to Easy Peer Review which notices the article is a short, adding the article to the current date's Wikinews Shorts (creating the short from template if it does not yet exist).
 * The goal of the system is to build a process which is above all easy to quickly create very brief news articles. This is all about immediate gratification, or at least only slightly delayed gratification, for both the authors and the reviewers. (These will normally be single-source, 3-4 sentences, so quick to fact-check.) -  Amgine | t 01:57, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Oh, and I was wrong about the transclusion stuff above; there is a leading colon requirement for main namespace transclusions. Boy don't I feel sheepish... -  Amgine | t 01:59, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

 * The current effort in this direction, Wikinews Shorts: September 2, 2010, clashes badly with our peer review system. One of the transcluded articles has been published, which puts the transcluding aggregate into Category:Published.  If the aggregate article got sighted, which could happen accidentally if someone got confused when they saw it in WN:Newsroom, and if there didn't also happen to be another transcluded article in some publication-blocking category like Category:Disputed, the aggregate could get published with un-peer-reviewed material in it.  A different technical solution is needed.  --Pi zero (talk) 16:01, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

 * I'm not too happy about the single source thing—the whole point of using at least two sources is to ensure neutrality. Δεν δοδγε  τ\c 11:24, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think single source can ever be acceptable at Wikinews. The multiple source stricture serves multiple functions.  Another major one that comes to mind is verification.  Juicy stories based on a single source periodically generate a mainstrean media frenzy that is followed by a smaller story about how some bad people deceived the mainstream media.  Wikinews should be better than that.  --Pi zero (talk) 12:50, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Instant message
I think we should have some kind of instant messaging extention installed on this wiki to enable users to interect with each other instantly. --Saki (talk) 16:46, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Interesting. Despite my dislike for you being on this wiki at all, I'm not going to shoot this right down. It isn't without its merits. However, it would kill the IRC channel, which is opt-in. There is really a lot of overlap to the two, such that I don't think it wholly needed (although I appreciate that people often aren't in IRC - I'm not in right now...). Also, I suspect a lot of epople would feel on-wiki conversations should remain recorded somewhere, something impractical with a messaging installation. That's a view I have a lot of sympathy for. Most people keep archives of their talk, and group discussions are always archived nowadays. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:51, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, we could set-up a logged IRC channel? --Diego Grez return fire 17:41, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Doable, certainly: A logged one and a 'private' one (not that IRC is very private, but you aren't supposed to post stuff from it without permission). My concern is, how long would those logs get? It would, I fear, be unnavigable and hence unworkable. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:01, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Perhaps one channel for stuff that eventually becomes "IRC consensus." — Mike moral  ♪♫  19:05, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I could set up one of these, with a similar interface to ~mwbot/ Diego Grez return fire 19:09, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Publicly logged channel
I was bold and created the Freenode channel #wikinews-public. It is being publicly logged in the toolserver (~diegogrez/wikinews-logs/) by (yet another version of) Pitsilemu. Cheers and hoping this new channel is of any help to you! Diego Grez return fire 23:19, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Might want to consider having more than just one users with +f -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 23:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure. Mikemoral, Blood Red Sandman and you have +votriAf now. Diego Grez return fire 23:49, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Just a comment: I think this was done once before by Brian McNeil? -  Amgine | t 20:09, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Not that I remember. You won't catch me in this new channel, particularly given the individual who prompted this. Pray tell, what country does Xe claim to be iving in this week? Guatemala? Japan? Saudi? Or still FATA? A /16 or /22 that's been naught but trouble. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:53, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL. But the user who created the channel was me, not him. Diego Grez return fire 21:53, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposal: Request new "Alert:" namespace
As a response to difficulties reforming shorts and/or briefs, it is proposed that a new namespace be requested, with flagged revisions in place an associated "Alert discussion:", and comment space.

Naming is not fixed, please allow time for discussion if better options appear to exist. However, this would be a publishable namespace, pushed to GNews; a low "entry barrier" to contribution, more manageable for reviewing, and published items should serve as an advert/invite/encouragement to engage in more lengthy reportage.

Likely requirements

 * 1) New, Category:Published alert.
 * 2) New main page DPL for these.
 * 3) Main page adjustments to include these somewhere, have GNews pick them up, and exclude from master full-article DPL.
 * 4) New, Published alert  template. Suggest vertical, integrate two-column V-Social bookmarks template for right side. HYS integrated, but view-only option once archived.
 * 5) Footer Alert expander template; suggest parameters state=[start | developing | published | archived | archived-linkedto] and title= where associated article exists, or in development.
 * 6) Abridged Style Guide.
 * 7) New/tweaked review tool; shortened/combined criteria.
 * 8) New sourcing template(s) to reduce their space usage.
 * 9) Shorter time-to-archived.

Comments, userspace proposed solutions

 * Put forward links to your template suggestions here. Avoid all category use.

 * Would we remove the expansion template after archive, or the 48 hour time limit? I think it would look ugly with that staying on for all time. — Mike moral  ♪♫  02:15, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. My idea is to only offer expand whilst an item is current. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:23, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

 * two points;
 * 1) the idea that 'alerts' aren't news, aren't in the main namespace, says to me they are less-valued.
 * Absolutely not the intent. This due to where I believe we have technical limitations. Such items can be readily managed in DPLs if namespace is 'slightly abused' as a pseudocategory. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:23, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) 99% of the issue is the review process. I do not see how you can attract contributors of "this is breaking news brief" when it doesn't get reviewed for a couple days, if ever. (In my experiment 4 news events were covered within 2 hours of initial scoop, 7 within 12 hours; 1 of 7 was reviewed.) -  Amgine | t 03:04, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Re. your experiment: I didn't review any of them because they were marked experiment, and those I looked at first didn't seem to reach the normal standards of shorts. I thought you were testing the infrastructure, and didn't actually intend to get them published. --InfantGorilla (talk) 11:19, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * For obvious reasons, I couldn't work on review; IG highlights where a misunderstanding has arisen (I hope others made that same mistake, and have not just abandoned reviewer duties). I'm looking to, ideally, keep a steady stream of updates to the main page, and GNews. I think the below indicates we could. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:23, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I hope for substantial time savings per review simply from the smaller size, and some to-be-determined time savings per page because it should be much easier for reviewers to find time to review an alert than a full article. Exactly because alerts will be reviewed faster, we need to be especially clear, from the start, on what reviewers are responsible for.  (We already needed to be clearer than we officially have been about review responsibilities for full articles.)  The potential for things to go badly wrong, if we're not set up properly for it, increases with speed.

 * It's not obvious to me (and I do want to understand this point) that the review process would change much, except for smaller scale of application. The standard five review criteria all seem relevant, though "style" has a lot less behind it; I don't get what would be gained by changing them.  As for what's behind those five checkboxes, I now think I was overly optimistic when I suggested alerts would reduce the Tips checklist by about half.  The only part of "The news story" that would actually go away is "Body"; "Other elements" would lose "Infobox" and at least most of "Peripherals"; and "Sources" wouldn't change at all.  --Pi zero (talk) 02:10, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

 * I like this proposal, but I take no view on the technical issue of whether it needs a new namespace, or the use of categories. It will be great to review or write a fresh short in a coffee break, when I am too busy to contribute more intensively to Wikinews.  My favorite prefix is Amgine's suggestion of "In brief:", but "Alert: " sounds good, and the possibility that the word will inhibit the creation of older shorts may be helpful. --InfantGorilla (talk) 11:19, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * This is a point Amgine might concede; the push to GNews, or spread via social networks, is a recruiting tool. Alert: will become dated where older items are highlighted, but In brief: takes too much of the limit on some, such as twitter. I'm sure his substantial vocabulary can come up with a succinct alternate - or we create a new word a-la 'tweet'. The latter is 'memetic warfare' in my way of thinking. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:23, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Not conceded. If you are considering using brief news articles as a recruiting tool the absolute requirement is for the contributor to see xyr work on the main page of Wikinews within, at longest, 1-2 hours. If it goes further, that's an 'attaboy'; first and foremost is getting near-instant feedback and gratification.
 * If, on the other hand, you're referring to getting en.Wikinews content out and visible on the internet, thus building our 'brand' recognition and presence in the consciousness of netizens, sure. I don't know that brief news articles will be particularly supportive of that mission - WNdents would likely have greater effect - but they certainly will not harm such an effort. -  Amgine | t 23:39, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

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 * General comments on the feasibility, and merits, of this solution.

Alternative naming convention discussion

 * Better naming ideas? Serious flaws with as-proposed.

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Please leave a few days for some input prior to voting. Keep comments associated with votes brief. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:42, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Api issues, and gadgets sucking
API had a little boo boo (I have no idea what happened, something about the devs accidentally causing the message cache to rebuild, anyways should be over soon) and many of the gadgets are currently failing. In particular the review alert and review-progress gadgets will throw ugly error messages on every page (I've temporarily disabled the error message, hard refresh if you're seeing it). Also some other gadgets may fail silently, or give an error after using them for a bit (Easy Peer review would be the most prominent one). In any case from what i understand all should be fixed soon, but in the meantime if you see an error in a big red box, don't freak. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻

 * It will be fixed as soon as the message cache has finished its rebuild. I have no idea how long that will take, but it shouldn't be much longer. BarkingFish (talk) 23:58, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Should be fixed now, from the talk i'm overhearing, it sounds like an extension configuration item was placed after the all extensions must come before this line on http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=CommonSettings.php Bawolff ☺☻ 00:25, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

It appears that action=parse in the api was disabled today -. I don't know what the deal with that is, but in the mean time, wiktLookup won't work, and WN:ML won't do previews properly (however, it might still work otherwise, ymmv). Bawolff ☺☻ 17:36, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * for the curious, see . Bawolff ☺☻ 17:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Interest in a gadget for Wikipedia link suggestions?
Hello all,

is there interest in a gadget invoked from the edit toolbar that would provide authors with a list of potential links to Wikipedia articles (say, in a pop-up where you can check or uncheck each link suggestion, and the links will then be applied to the article)? I just met with Tal Keinan from a company called SemantiNet, and they've built a complex structured database of content from Wikipedia and other sources that, they think, would make this fairly easy to do with reasonable accuracy at disambiguation etc. They're happy to do the coding for this if there's interest here -- basically it would send the article wiki text to their web service, which would send back the Wikipedia link suggestions, which the gadget would offer in a pop-up to accept or reject. Thoughts?--Eloquence (talk) 21:08, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

 * en.WN articles tend already to be over-larded with en.WP links. I'd rather see links where appropriate to en.WT; at least, for those of us being mauled for using a vocabulary. -  Amgine | t 22:08, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

 * However, it'd still be a nice tool to try, with possibly that wikt thing Amgine suggested. — Mike moral  ♪♫  22:48, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * [editconflict] Eloquence edits! Am I stuck in some weird time warp? Personally I'm a fan of links, and like to see as many as possible (where relevant obviously) to both wiktionary and wikipedia. The obvious questions about this that come to mind is: (the automatic question when someone proposes using an external web service to do something) privacy (although considering your position in the wmf you're probably much more familiar with that issue than I am). The second question is how does this compare to just taking every word in the article, seeing if an article exists with that title (possibly lopping off 's and the like)? Bawolff ☺☻ 22:55, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Regarding the privacy issue: Given that it would be an ancillary, optional gadget that doesn't track or load anything unless users explicitly call it, I don't think it's a big deal, but it might be good to have a disclaimer visible somewhere. I don't know if they can provide Wiktionary indexing, but I'll ask. --Eloquence (talk) 07:50, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

 * I, in principle, like the idea. However, local links should always trump enWP ones. If they can present a good, proposed, functional specification I'd be happy to pick it apart in terms of applying enWN local-link policy. First, though, you might want to point them at the amazing Wiktionary hover gadget. I'd assume they have stats on frequency of specific word usage; as Amgine says, WT is under-represented in the link stakes and Wikinewsies tend to exploit the full range available in English. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:46, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Local links which are not news articles. That's going to be a very complex algorithm, since it would need to check the link *is* a redirect, and is to a non-main namespace (portal or category). And it needs to not be a date, of course. Using any of the word complexity scores, or just syllable count, could be used to link to en.WT if it doesn't exist on en.WN. -  Amgine | t 16:34, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

 * I have to respectfully disagree that application of local-link policy is a complex algorithm. It's about four to eight bullet points in a competently written specification. For virtually all cases your picking ones where Eloquence's friends wold think a link to WP is appropriate; then, checking for a local link that is a redirect to a category or portal which, itself, is in a people or geographic category. They could have an enWN db dump on their server and the hit would be tiny. Are there no good programmers left anymore? Nobody who knows you spend 60%+ of the time getting the spec right? --Brian McNeil / talk 16:06, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Show me your code! specs don't bring home the data. -  Amgine | t 01:35, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


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'Greatest parade' in Pichilemu commemorates First Junta of Chile

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The Civic Parade of Pichilemu took place on Saturday morning, in Daniel Ortúzar Avenue. The event was attended by around 9,000 people. It started with an exhibition of, the Chilean national dance, by winners of communal and regional Cueca championships.

All the schools from urban Pichilemu and its rural villages participated in the parade, including La Aguada School, Basic School,  School,, Colegio Preciosa Sangre, , , and others. Neighborhood councils (such as Infiernillo, presided by ), elderly clubs, sport clubs (such as Arturo Prat and Independiente), the and the  also participated. The Parade music was performed by Banda Instrumental Pichilemina (Pichileminian Instrumental Band).

The parade is part of celebrations marking two hundred years since Chile began the Independence process, that ended in 1818 after Bernardo O'Higgins proclaimed it.

"This parade shows the power that the Pichileminian people has to stand again [after the February 27 earthquake]," of Pichilemu Roberto Córdova said. "It is the greatest parade in the History of Pichilemu," he added.

The event was broadcast by the local radio stations Entre Olas,  and Somos Pichilemu. Jorge Vargas González, owner of Radio Somos Pichilemu and former Mayor of the city also attended the event, along with his wife, current.


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A man has died and another man and a woman are injured after a road traffic accident in Somerset, England, United Kingdom. At approximately 02:00 (01:00 ) yesterday, a  that was carrying the three along the  in  — close to the location of  — struck a telegraph pole before becoming stationary in a hedge and subsequently caught fire.

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Talk:'Greatest parade' in Pichilemu commemorates First Junta of Chile

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I attended the event, and took the pictures on the article. —Diego Grez return fire 01:28, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Background
Please explain to readers (who may not have read your earlier article) the event the parade celebrates. A sentence or two may be enough. Does the event reflect the history in any way (costumes or re-enactments perhaps)? --InfantGorilla (talk) 06:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC)


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I dispute the article being out of date. It is an emerging story that has only been covered in a quarterly community paper and then a local weekly paper. The story relates to a proposal to restore a wall mural and public meeting to endorse or object to the proposal. The site of the mural is on one of London's main thoroughfares yet the story has not been covered in any of London's main dailies. The story could well be picked up by one of these papers in the next 48 hours.

Stories like these often are brought to light by community papers and newsletters, then are picked up by a local weekly before attracting the attention of mainstream press. This often takes time, sometimes weeks or months. For example, compare this story [http://news.fitzrovia.org.uk/2010/08/12/historic-london-districts-re-branded-midtown/ Historic London districts re-branded Midtown. Or have they?] by the community newspaper Fitzrovia News published 12 August and the same story Historic London districts 'rebranded' Midtown on the BBC News site published more than four weeks later on 17 September.

Suggestion
I suggest that you could do some original reporting or a broadcast report to make this article up-to-date. -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 14:04, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks for this. That's a very good idea. I can phone one of the people involved in the project through a contact of mine and do a brief interview and see if I can get some info that was not picked up in the other news sources. I suppose I just list that as an "original reporting" source along with the other sources like "interview with so and so..."

Original reporting notes
Notes taken during phone interview at 7:30.pm BST London, UK

Need to act quickly

sense of urgency because of its deteriorating

the graffiti is multiplying

Camden council said the will do a condition survey

We need partners to bid for money

So many council depts that don’t speak to each other open spaces, arts and housing, parks and gardens four departments.

economic climate not good

I fear that if we don’t so some thing the council will consider a private commercial scheme on the site,

On Sunday evening, I spoke to Peter Whyatt who is jointly leading the project to restore the mural. He told me he had number of concerns about the possible success of the project.

“There are a great number of problems with getting this project off the ground and we also need to act pretty quickly for a number of reasons.

“Firstly the mural is in a terrible state and deteriorating quickly. There is more graffiti being daubed on the site every month because one bit of graffiti attracts another bit. We really need to start the work in the next 12 months because going through another winter with the condition of the wall will causes more problems and inevitably more expense. We want to keep as much original artwork on the site as possible to keep the costs down. This is a big mural and it will be expensive to restore.

“And that brings me to my second concern: cost. If we don’t get other community organisations on board to bid for money for this with us and to involve their beneficiaries and volunteers, it will be very difficult to secure the money needed. Money is very tight at the moment because to the current financial climate. We need to get support at this meeting on Tuesday and some firm commitments form people and organisations to get involved.

“Lastly there is a danger of a commercial development on the site. A public-private partnership to create a new art feature. Because of the existing mural’s subject matter – it mocks property speculators, and land developers, etc – a commercial scheme probably backed by a property developer would not want to restore the mural’s original message. They’d want some “good news” scheme, some greenwash idea that paints them in a positive light.

“However, despite these problems, Camden Council have offered to do a condition survey on the mural. This will save us a lot of money. But having said that there are five council departments to deal with to get permission for this restoration work, and they don’t always talk to each other.

“But if the public and local voluntary organisations show their support, we can make it happen.

Interview
Please identify the organization that Mr Whyatt represents. --InfantGorilla (talk) 19:52, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Yes check.svg|20px]] Resolved. . I found it. --InfantGorilla (talk) 20:15, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

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On second thoughts, there could be a license clash. Not sure about this. Too complicated to wonder about. I'll do a re-write

Re-write done. Just waiting for a review--Thegiantrodent (talk) 23:20, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Review needed
All outstanding issues have been addressed. Review now needed.--Thegiantrodent (talk) 09:20, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks to everyone who edited, reviewed and made suggestions to get this story published. Much appreciated --Thegiantrodent (talk) 23:02, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

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I was contacted by Peter Whyatt one of the organisers of the project and he wished to point out the project is not just about the mural but also wider plans to promote awareness of heritage and conservation in an area of London under threat from commercial development. In fact the bulk of the project is about the heritage and conservation and the mural is just one part of it, and the most visible because of its situation. The actual name of the project is the Fitzrovia Heritage and Mural Project and this should be made clear in the reporting. He has also pointed out that there is a website where the public can comment on the plans and kept up to date on the proposals. I have submitted some corrections to the text of the article to reflect this.


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Talk:One dead, two injured after car crash in Somerset, England

Newsworthiness?
Seeing this in my feed reader made me curious of Wikinews' policy: does this qualify as newsworthy? There are between 30,000 and 40,000 fatal accidents in the US alone every year (http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx). Why is this newsworthy, but not the other 100 deaths that occurred today? (I wish I had statistics for England, to prevent opening an off-topic discussion; can we just assume the number is comparable/proportional for the sake of understanding my question?) 76.168.95.118 (talk) 13:02, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

 * My understanding is that the number is about proportional if you account for number of road users, maybe a bit higher in the US; it doesn't really matter though, it's clear where you're going. Newsworthiness makes little mention of the issue, which actually surprises me as there is currently a consensus that local stories can remain. We have a local only category and this article falls within it; if we reach a stage where we get lots of local stuff then articles like this will be given a lower visibility. Hope that helps. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:12, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Makes sense, thanks for the speedy response. I do appreciate the fact that subscribing to the main Wikileaks feed includes local stories such as this one, so please don't take my question as a complaint or a request for fewer stories. Keep up the great reporting! 76.168.95.118 (talk) 13:29, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

 * No problem! Thanks for taking the effort to understand; too few people just complain without attempting to find out the thoughts behind the issue. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

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Please add Category:Somerset. Thanks, Bencherlite (talk) 11:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 16:45, 30 November 2010 (UTC)


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Thread:Comments:Inventor Ronald Howes dies at age 83/Comments from feedback form - "in the vastness of it all, Ro..."/reply

Ah, but he was a toy inventor who created one of the most popular iconic American toys of all time, and invented or worked on so many others like Play Doh, Spirograph, etc. His toy work brought happiness and joy to tens of millions, maybe even hundreds of millions of children all over the world over the past 50 years. Imagine the countless Christmas mornings filled with the laughter of excited children tearing open the wrapping paper to find one of his toys they'd asked Santa for and hoped for all year long. Ask a group of women what their favorite childhood toys were and you'll hear Easy Bake again and again. And didn't you play with Play Doh as a kid? Remember that Play Doh scent with a smile? A unique position in toy history and not a bad legacy to leave behind.

That alone would be enough, but that's not all we have to thank him for. His toy career was only part of his contribution. He worked on designing early digital computers in the 1950's, various consumer products that made life a little easier and more pleasant, and inventions for the Department of Defense. To this day, these extremely important DOD projects can't be mentioned do to their secret nature. What can be said is that these helped keep our military technologically more advanced than those who wanted to destroy us. So, if you and your loved ones live free today and not under the thumb of some totalitarian regime like the now defunct Soviet union, you have Ronald Howes, in some small part, to thank.

So, "in the vastness of it all", Ronald Howes made countless millions of people a little happier and safer than they would have been otherwise. The word "genius" is over used, but that is just what the man was.

Finally, "in the vastness of it all", what have you done? How will you be remembered? Will someone like Oprah discuss your life's work with the President and First Lady on the White House Christmas special and mention your passing with sadness and fond memories of your accomplishments on her show? Or will people say "big deal" when you are gone, soon to be forgotten having not left behind anything worth mentioning?

So, drop the cynicism, take inspiration from a man who did make a difference, who gave a damn and gave of himself, and try to find a way to leave the world a better place when you are gone, Mr. Scrooge.


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This is typical "fear-mongering" by the TPD and Tulsa World. It's election year and the usual fear mongering begins. Unfortunately,law makers do not use one iota of "Evidence Based Research when writing sex offender laws and as a result children are endangered as is our entire society. But who cares? As long as one gets the votes and the media gets the ratings. What a sad commentary on Oklahoma's law makers!! Writing laws that endanger and controlling the public through mass hysteria for votes and ratings. Shame! Shame!


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Pope Benedict XVI departs from UK

September 20, 2010

Pope Benedict XVI concluded a to the United Kingdom on Sunday. During the four-day tour, the Pope presided over Mass in, London, performed the of  in Birmingham, and spoke with UK  David Cameron. Speaking about the which have brought criticism on the , Benedict XVI described his "deep sorrow" at the "unspeakable crimes" that had caused "shame and humiliation" onto him and his church.

As the Pope departed from on Sunday night, he pledged better diplomatic relations between Vatican City and the UK. Cameron said the Pope had "really challenged the whole country to sit up and think, and that can only be a good thing." The Pope thanked the UK for hosting him before departing without his, which are to follow over land.

During his last speech in the United Kingdom, the Pope proclaimed: "As I take my leave of you, let me assure you once again of my good wishes and prayers for the peace and prosperity of Great Britain. Thank you very much and God bless you all." He then proceeded to take an aeroplane ride back to Rome.

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