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Police arrest former NFL player Alonzo Spellman

January 30, 2008

Alonzo Spellman, a former National Football League player, was arrested Tuesday in Tulsa, Oklahoma after a twenty minute car chase with police. Officers used "spike sticks" that flattened three tires on Spellman's car, but he refused to get out until officers fired pepper-spray pellets into the vehicle.

Spellman was hospitalized and had to attend psychiatric evaluations after being involved in a police standoff at the home of his publicist in 1998. In 2003 he was sentenced to 18 months in prison after pleading guilty to interfering with the crew of a Delta Air Lines flight from Cincinnati to Philadelphia.

Spellman, a six-foot, 300 pound first round draft pick out of Ohio State made his NFL debut in 1992 with the Chicago Bears. He was also a team member of the Detroit Lions and Dallas Cowboys, recording 43 sacks in 123 games. Spellman agreed to a contract with the Las Vegas Gladiators of the Arena Football League (AFL) in October of 2005.


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I noticed this was changed from "... in North Texas" to "... across Texas" but if I am not mistaken, aren't all of the mentioned counties in North Texas? It seems to be sensationalistic to claim it is across Texas. --SVTCobra 00:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Burnet County is more Central Texas, and Nolan and Callahan counties are considered to be closer to West Texas. When people around here say "North Texas", they usually mean the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex, though I realize other people have different definitions. ~Planoneck~ 00:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess a couple of the counties do fall outside of the area highlighted by Wikipedia as North Texas, I am just concerned that it sounds like the whole state is on fire. --SVTCobra 01:03, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess it does sound a bit sensationalistic to use the word "across". Go ahead and change it if you want. ~Planoneck~ 01:12, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I changed it to "wide area", hope you approve. --SVTCobra 01:48, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

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pub a little early theres not much --Rifleman2457 01:10, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

cats? --Rifleman2457 01:10, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

i had a feeling he/she was doing something funky thanks --Rifleman2457 01:14, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

 * Thank you, but this article is not ready. Funky is not a valid reason to publish. --SVTCobra 01:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

no no no i mean the person that put it up for pub was acting funky??? --Rifleman2457 01:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

 * Oh, that IP address has had a history of publishing articles before they were fully developed. So, yes, you are correct. Funky, indeed. --SVTCobra 01:30, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

yeah my bad i forgot to add categoryies here don't have to reply... --Rifleman2457 01:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

 * I hit you up with the boilerplate "welcome" message. Though impersonal, it has lots of useful links for developing stories. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

would a image of either Spellman without c/e or someother related picture maybe type of vehicle or so on...? just a thought. --Rifleman2457 02:04, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

 * Any image you add would have to be "free". The best place to find those is on Commons:. I do think a pic of the same type of car without it being his car seems kind of silly, but whatever, it does have to be free. --SVTCobra 02:11, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

changing title of article to like football player lorenzo spellman arrested for ? --72.87.57.201 08:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


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g'night and also i know minimal is there so i have to take the time to expand them i'am currently working on wikiquote, wikipedia, wikitravel and here so i got my hands full i know wikinews just isn't up to newsreporters par but you never know maybe more users will join thanks --Rifleman2457 02:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

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International manhunt for alleged kidney harvester

February 1, 2008

While the involuntary harvesting of human may have been relegated to  in the, a raid in India has shown the practice is real and has triggered an international.

On January 24, police raided a clinic in, a satellite city of with two million inhabitants, and found that poor  were having kidneys removed, sometimes coerced at gunpoint. The kidneys were for to wealthy clients, both at home and abroad.

In 1995, the made it illegal to donate organs except to close relatives. However, not all have ratified the bill.

Mohammed Salim is a who had a kidney removed at the clinic. "I was approached by a stranger for a job. When I accepted, I was taken to a room with gunmen," he told, a local television channel. "They tested my blood, gave me an injection and I lost consciousness. When I woke up, I had pain in my lower abdomen and I was told that my kidney had been removed."

Mohinder Lal, the police commissioner in Gurgaon who is heading the investigation, has a suspect thought to be the ringleader. The man, whose true identity is not known, but most recently he went by Amit Kumar, has been called the main doctor in the ring that harvested kidneys. The Indian press has dubbed him "Dr. Horror."

Commissioner Lal says the scale of this ring is unprecedented. He says four doctors, five nurses, twenty paramedics, three private hospitals, ten pathology clinics and five diagnostic centers were involved. "We suspect around 400 or 500 kidney transplants were done by these doctors over the last nine years," he said.

As for Amit Kumar, Lal told, "we know that earlier he was staying in Canada [but] right now, we are not sure if he is in Canada." Lal further said: "We are trying to get more information through Interpol today."

 quoted an investigator with the police, Manjul Saini: "We are certain his family is based in Canada and he visited them a fortnight ago."

The (RCMP) says it has limited information on the investigation. "We can, however, say that Interpol-Ottawa has been in communication with Interpol-New Delhi about this case," said Sergeant Sylvie Tremblay.

Two British citizens, who are alleged to have travelled to India to obtain kidney transplants, have had their passports confiscated by police. Their identities have not been announced and the says it has not been informed.

Speaking to , deputy commissioner of Gurgaon, Rakesh Arya said that "two British people have not been let out of the country."

"We are holding their passports. They are helping with our investigation... [There] are allegations that they are part [of the buying ring]," Arya continued. "We are cross checking certain things. They have been apprehended but not yet charged."

A report by the (IANS) has identified Amit Kumar as an alias of Santosh Rameshwar Raut, once a prominent, citing police sources. IANS tracked an arrest record dating back to 1993 for the man who is said to be in his fifties.

The IANS estimates that Amit Kumar has amassed a fortune of billions of from the racket. He has also been disowned by his father, Rameshwar Raut, who said, "I had a misunderstanding with him and we have parted ways. Everyone in my village knows about my integrity. I am a freedom fighter and everybody knows this. He has made a mistake and put me to shame. One should never lie come what may. He was a big liar."

It is alleged that Amit Kumar's brothers, Jeewan and Ganesh, were instrumental in procuring "donors" and that the organization was very secretive, yet involved an extensive network of doctors at prestigious hospitals, travel agents, and taxicab drivers.

The January 24 raid of the clinic was done after Vidya Prakash Jatav, another laborer, filed a complaint with authorities.

"This problem comes from the economic disparity between the western hemisphere and the poor here. Western patients can simply buy organs and in this country we have no national health service," Sandeep Guleria, professor of medicine at Delhi's told The Guardian. "Only 20% in the country can access any kind of medical care. We need a much bigger deterrence in terms of jail sentences."


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sorry i will add it right away --Rifleman2457 01:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC) is their a asia cat? --Rifleman2457 02:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I added a NYT source and cats. But this is the end of my shift, so I cannot write the article, but now there is plenty of material to work with, just don't copy-and-paste as that would be a copy-violation. Cheers, --SVTCobra 02:20, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

ok i just did not copy-paste the blog i should have known blogs are people opinions ok --Rifleman2457 02:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


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Obituaries: January 28-February 3, 2008

February 4, 2008

The following were some of the deaths reported over the past week:

[[Image:Flag of the United States.svg|35px|border]] Gus Arriola, cartoonist, 70
Gordo cartoonist Gus Arriola died in Carmel, California on Saturday. His comic strip presented aspects of Mexican culture to American audiences.

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[[Image:Flag of Brazil.svg|35px|border]] Beto Carrero, theme park operator, 70
Beto Carrero, a Brazilian musician turned theme park operator, died in São Paulo on Friday. He sustained heart failure during surgery at Hospital Sírio Libanês. His Beto Carerro World in Santa Catarina state is reported to be the largest amusement facility in Latin America.

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[[Image:Flag of Greece.svg|35px|border]] Archbishop Christodoulos, church leader, 69
Archbishop Christodoulos of Greece's Orthodox Church died Monday in Athens after serving almost ten years as the church's national leader. The archbishop, whose actual name was Christodoulos Paraskevaides, was treated for cancer since last July.

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[[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|35px|border]] [[Image:Flag of Canada.svg|35px|border]] Barry Morse, actor, 89
British-born, Canadian-based actor Barry Morse died on Saturday, according to his official website.

Morse was an actor since the 1930s in his native Britain. He moved to Canada in the 1950s where he made his first television appearances on CBC Television. During the 1960s and 1970s, Morse was seen internationally on television, particularly his regular roles on Space: 1999 and The Fugitive.

Further details of his death are not yet available.

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[[Image:Flag of Indonesia.svg|35px|border]] Suharto, former Indonesian President, 86
Suharto, second president of Indonesia, has died today in a Jakarta hospital at the age of 86. The cause of death was announced as multiple-organ failure. He had been in the hospital since January 4, when he was admitted with failing kidneys, heart and lungs.

A week of national mourning was declared by President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono. In a televised address, the current president described Suharto as "one of Indonesia's best sons and national leaders who has done very great service to his beloved nation" and called for all Indonesians to pay their respects.

The president is to oversee a state funeral after Suharto's body is taken to his family mausoleum in Surakarta, Central Java by a fleet of seven Air Force planes.

Suharto was born Raden Suharto on June 8, 1921 in Kemusu Argamulja, Java, Indonesia. He was president of Indonesia from 1967 - 1998.

Suharto is survived by two sons and one daughter. His eldest daughter, Tutut, said, "My father passed away peacefully. May God bless him and forgive all of his mistakes."

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[[Image:Flag of Kenya.svg|35px|border]] David Kimutai Too, politician, 39 or 40
Amid Kenya's post-election violence, Orange Democratic Movement politician David Kimutai Too was killed by police at Eldoret on Thursday. His party condemned this situation as a politically-motivated assassination. He was the second major Kenyan politician to be killed this week (see Mugabe Were below).

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[[Image:Flag of Kenya.svg|35px|border]] Mugabe Were, politician, 39
Melitus Mugabe Were, a moderate Kenyan opposition Member of Parliament, was assassinated on Tuesday. He was shot outside his home is among hundreds killed in that nation's post-election violence.

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2008 Winter Carnival partially thaws in Saint Paul

January 30, 2008 The Saint Paul Winter Carnival in Saint Paul, Minnesota suffered a brief thaw on Monday, with Monday's 41°F afternoon temperature plummeting below zero twenty four hours later. On Sunday, judging of both ice and snow sculptures had taken place. By Monday afternoon, temperatures above freezing had greatly damaged the outdoor sculptures. In Rice Park, fallen ice from sculptures mixed with chunks left from the previous day's carving. Snow sculptures at the State Fairgrounds were also significantly damaged.

The brief warmth made for comfortable skating on the Wells Fargo Winterskate rink next to Landmark Center in downtown Saint Paul. A block away the Hot Dish Tent was offering popular high-starch fare.

The Winter Carnival started in 1886, after the city's Chamber of Commerce took offense at a New York reporter's comparison of the city to Siberia. The annual event celebrates the cold weather while drawing people to outdoor and indoor activities.


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Major League Baseball: Twins trade Cy Young winning pitcher Johan Santana to Mets

January 30, 2008 In a deal announced Tuesday, the Minnesota Twins have traded pitcher Johan Santana to the New York Mets. The trade is yet to be finalized, pending a physical examination and agreement on a contract extension, but an agreement is expected to be made before 5:00 EST Friday.

In exchange for the three-time all-star and two-time Cy Young award winner, the Twins would receive outfielder Carlos Gómez, and three right-handed pitchers, Philip Humber, Deolis Guerra, and Kevin Mulvey.

Santana is reportedly looking for a 6 to 7 year deal worth around US$150 million, and has been on the trading block for some months now. This trade comes just days after the Twins signed multi-year contracts to two of their other stars, Michael Cuddyer and Justin Morneau. Cuddyer signed a three-year, $24 million deal, and Morneau was given $80 million over six years.

Santana has a 93-44 in his 6 season career with the Twins, recording over 235 strikeouts per season the past 3 seasons. He is one of 14 players to have won the Cy Young more than once, in 2004 and 2006, and he was a MLB All-Star in 2005, 2006, and 2007.


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Crap. Well, I hope Liriano can step up and fill in Santana's place, assuming he's gonna be ready this season.. (→ Zachary ) 04:51, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Same ol' Minnesota Twinkies -- trade away your best talent after making them hot. What are we, a farm team for the rest of the AL? No wonder we haven't been to the World Series since 1991. --A former Minnesotan who lost all hope —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.136.15.174 (talk) 12:40, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

THE METS ARE GONNA BEAST IT THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, ARE ONLY WEAKNESS IS NOW AN ASSETT, PREPARE TO DIE MLB! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.128.77 (talk) 04:16, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Big mistake
I think that trading Johan Santana was a big mistake for the Twins. He was a valuable player and the deal should have been thought over a lot better than it was. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.34.18.197 (talk) 03:03, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

This is newsworthy but lacks many of the important details surrounding the trade, which I hope to add to it above. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.206.244.93 (talk) 16:05, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Johan Santana will help the mets in 2008
YEAH, we got Johan. I think that he will help the mets win the world series and i think that he is going to have a big impact when the season starts. 2008 NL East champs, 2008 NL Champions and 2008 World Series Champions. GO METS!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.169.44.167 (talk) 12:36, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


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John Edwards drops out of US presidential race

January 30, 2008 Former United States Senator John Edwards announced today that he is quitting the United States presidential election. Edwards made this announcement during a speech in New Orleans, Louisiana, that was scheduled for 1:00 p.m. EST (UTC-5) today.

This decision comes after Edwards lost his home state of South Carolina to Barack Obama.

"Today, I am suspending my campaign for the Democratic nomination for the Presidency," Edwards said.

"Now, I've spoken to both Senator Clinton and Senator Obama. They have both pledged to me and more importantly through me to America, that they will make ending poverty central to their campaign for the presidency," he continued.


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February 3
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guess i'am reverting vandalism must make more articles and shorts though --Kretinman 16:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

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Comments:John Edwards to drop out of US presidential race

This will surely help Obama before Super Tuesday!
 * Not likely. Obama and (even more so) his supporters have ostracized all other voters. Obama's supporters are polarizing the Democratic Party.


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I am Father Maximos, I am a priest of the Greek Orthodox Church of Jerusalem residing on Long Island

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Zimbabwe opposition calls for constitutional reform, may boycott elections

January 30, 2008 The opposition party of Zimbabwe, the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) has announced that it wishes for constitutional reform to take place before the planned March election. The party has warned that they may boycott the planned elections, as well as saying in a press release that they believe the current election to be a "farce". The party also said that they believed the planned date for the poll did not allow enough time for fair elections to take place.

The election, which was announced by Mugabe last week, are due to take place on March 29. The planned election have been announced to be for the parliament the Senate and the Council.

The MDC has not stated that it will not definitely boycott the elections and it has encouraged people who are eligible to register to vote. Hon Tendai Biti, the secretary general of the MDC said that "the MDC is preparing for elections but obviously the situation on the country shows that the country is not ready for the polls." He added that be believed "there are a lot of deadlock issues that are not yet resolved. " He also said that "As a party, we [the MDC] remain faithful to the dialogue process and the electoral process but a lot of sticking issues should be resolved as a matter of urgency."

Later in the speech Hon Biti criticized the elections being announced for March by saying that he thinks "the call for elections in March is irresponsible and is an affront to the dialogue process which is still taking place." He continued by saying he hopes "SADC will deal with this matter urgently because as a party, we remain committed to the peaceful resolution of the Zimbabwean crisis because Zimbabweans are tired of the national crisis which has them surviving on less than US20 cents a day."

Zanu-PF, the ruling party of Zimbabwe, responded to the calls for constitutional reform by saying it would be considered after the elections. Patrick Chinamasa, a representative of the party said "As far as we [Zanu-PF] are concerned, the dialogue that is being facilitated by South Africa is still ongoing. As ZANU-PF we are committed to an irreversible process that will result in the presentation of a draft constitution for national consultation. We would like whatever document comes out of the national consultative process to be subjected to a referendum and, if people accept it, only then will the country put in place a new constitution."


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My Master Thesis's Abstract
Investigation of Curtain Wall Systems Under Earthquake and Wind Effects and Optimum Profile Cross-Section’s Develope

Curtain wall systems are the facade systems used on the surface of buildings from outside. The elements of these systems are composed of covering materials such as aluminium composite panels, glass and light materials like aluminium alloy profile carriage systems. With the progress in technology, the elements consisting curtain wall systems are produced stronger and lighter so that the cost of carriage system can be reduced and the building will acquire prestige giving a more esthetical and modern appearances. Therefore these systems are preferred and getting more and more common in our country as well as throughout the world.

In thesis, it is aimed to give detailed information about curtain wall systems and statical analyses; to develop graphics for determining optimum profile cross-section and to assess the profiles economically produced in our country by using those graphics and to present suggestions for more economical profile cross-section. Within this purpose, informative knowledge related to curtain wall systems and studies about the topic have taken place in the first chapter of presented as six chapters. In the second chapter, detailed information has been given about different curtain wall systems, elements consisting facades, the material characteristics of these elements, the tests necessary during and after the production stage, national and international standards of the topic and besides the assembly line of facades. In the third chapter, the information about external factors like wind, earthquake, fire etc. influencing curtain wall systems. In the fourth chapter, in static analyses for design basis of carrying-system elements has been explained. In this chapter by making on additional and detailed research, graphics have been developed to determine optimum cross-section sizes belonging to carrying-system profiles. With the help of those graphics, it has been evaluated how economical cross-section of those aluminium profiles produced in our country. In the fifth chapter, the dimensions have been decided of the vertical carrying profiles and horizantal joint profiles to be applied to a tall building. The design have been decided according to the profiles produced in our country and the optimum cross-sections developed in this thesis and have been evaluated in accordance with how economical the profile are. In the six chapter has been given the conclussion and proposals. According to the data from the study, the graphics have been developed to determine optimum cross-sections of facade profiles and by means of the graphs the aluminium profiles produced in our country have been investigated about how economical they are. It was concluded in this study that the profiles were not economical enough to be produced in out country, this it was proposed that the graphics belonging to the developed optimum cross-section should b used to determine a more economical profile cross-sections or similar graphics can be used.

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User talk:78.176.45.127

Fenerbahçe ... you created an article, not a category, so I am deleting it. Also, please demonstrate the need for the category before creating it. Cheers--SVTCobra 17:53, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

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User talk:170.185.55.26

Welcome
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User:Remi/Public events

Here are events that are open to the public in your community.

Los Angeles

 * WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 30, 2008
 * HOUSING, COMMUNITY, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
 * Los Angeles City meeting memorandum - Taking place to today!
 * ROOM 1010, CITY HALL - 8:30 AM 200 NORTH SPRING STREET, LOS ANGELES, CA 90012

this is news in a way.. here is what is going on in your community... page probably needs to be made more properly formatted and less devoid of content.

http://parc1.lacity.org/appldept/calendarme/filedocs/all/councilcalendar.cfm

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File talk:Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at Columbia 1 by David Shankbone.jpg

Very Politically Biased
I don't think it reflects well upon WikiNews that such an obviously Jewish / Israeli / Zionist biased picture becomes "Picture of the Year" for WikiNews. Tolerance is, indeed, a virtue. However, tolerance of some over others is not tolerance at all. That is called bias; that is called racism. To scapegoat Iranians, including their president, is a clear act of racial discrimination and religious intolerance. WikiNews should not be used as a propaganda outlet for a minority -- in this case, the Israeli / Jewish / Zionist lobby. Let's think again next time, and try not to allow such blatantly biased opinions to make the cover of WikiNews. Thanks. Serouj 18:48, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry but Wikinews covers the news and this image is a high resolution image of an important news event. I wouldn't treat this as an endorsement of any opinion --Anony mous 101  18:53, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, this is an endorsement of a particular group. There are many opinions regarding Iranians, Ahmedinejad, and the Israeli lobby.  This picture is very blatantly biased toward the Israeli lobby and very clearly targets one man and his politics.  Similarly, a picture of a protester with Abraham Foxman's picture in a "no-smoking"-like vignette would be unacceptable as well, since it is a clear bias towards one view point.  And both would be considered just as racially and religiously intolerant.  Serouj 19:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Its not bias...The community voted for the image. I think others would say the same had it been the Israeli flag that got the picture of the year. Regardless, they are both excellent pictures and the community thought so. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:54, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Whether or not the "community" voted for this picture or not does not clear the fact that the picture is biased towards the Jewish / Israeli / Zionist lobby. (It's not that difficult to arrange for a large group of your friends to vote for a picture.)  The picture was clearly taken from the side of the Jewish / Israeli / Zionist protest.  So how can you think that that is not biased?  That defies logic.  To maintain it credibility, WikiNews should try to maintain its neutrality and impartiality as a news outlet, lest it become controlled by special interest groups such as the Israeli lobby.  For some background into this particular interest group, I recommend a read of "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt.  Cheers. Serouj 19:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This is a picture of a political demonstration. Consequently and unavoidable, it relays the political opinion of the participants of said demonstration. --+Deprifry+ 20:01, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I hardly see how Serouj's comments are relevant. It's a photo of people protesting Ahmadinejad. Many of the people appear to be Jewish. So what? If it was Castro/Cubans, Bush/Anti-war protesters or Giorgio Armani/Anti-fur protesters, it doesn't make much of a difference as to whether there is a "bias" in the photo. It was one of a montage in the article that showed quite a few pro- and anti- speech protesters. It is what it is, but I don't see how anyone could derive a "bias" aside from looking at it and saying the obvious, which is, "Some Jews apparently do not like the President of Iran." Go figure. --David Shankbone 21:12, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Let's not play dumb. The photo sends a clear, unambiguous message to anyone casually browsing the frontpage of WikiNews...  Serouj 00:47, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This photo is fine. I think Deprifry sums up the situation perfectly. Adambro 21:26, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

The subject of any news-worthy photo is going to be biased, and indeed the people pictured are biased against Ahmedinejad. This does not make the photo biased. If the photo had been staged and there really was no protest, then you could charge bias. But this photo was not chosen for the political statement that the subject was trying to convey, but rather for the quality and composition of the photo itself and the news-worthiness of the event it covered. It could have been a photo of a public demonstration in Iran with the participants calling for "death to America" if Wikinews was lucky enough to have a photo-journalist there and the photo was superb. Would you, Serouj, have charged bias then? --SVTCobra 23:32, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. As I wrote above, Similarly, a picture of a protester with Abraham Foxman's picture in a "no-smoking"-like vignette would be unacceptable as well, since it is a clear bias towards one view point. And both would be considered just as racially and religiously intolerant.  The point is that in order to have / maintain its credibility, WikiNews should at least try not to be overtly biased in what it places on its cover.  Good journalism requires some degree of impartiality, some degree of objectivity.  Serouj 00:44, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You are alone in thinking that this photo threatens Wikinews' impartiality. You are welcome to your opinion, though.  --David Shankbone 17:20, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a grand claim to make, given only a population sample of only 6 people who gave their opinion, don't you think? It probably wouldn't be wise to dismiss Galileo's view that the Earth revolves around the Sun just because he was "alone" among a handful of his peers.  In any case, I don't like religious and ethnic bias.  It is racism and religious intolerance.  It should have no place in WikiNews, and WikiNews should be cautious of broadcasting the opinions of special interest groups such as the Israeli Lobby. (I would hold a similar opinion if another special interest group -- such as a tobacco company -- were to come along and try to promote its views.)  Serouj 18:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I dunno - I don't think you are making much sense; you certainly haven't given a reason as to why it is biased, you simply state that it is, yet five other people say it is not. So, you win.  --David Shankbone 20:11, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I feel you are playing dumb again, David. But I'll eat your bait and try to answer: The obvious bias lies in placing the democratically elected president of another country inside a no-smoking sign vignette.  Such an image sends a message denouncing this person and/or his ideas and/or country (as he is the head of state).  It would be wiser for WikiNews to hold a journalistic standpoint of neutrality / impartiality.  It serves it no good to itself (as a news source) to support one side over another.  Serouj 05:37, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Is the photo itself taking a political position? In my opinion, no - it is showing people who hold a position, but I don't see the photo either endorsing or condemning that position. I would say that the context in which the photo is used would have more potential to be biased than the photo itself. (Oh, and while I don't think that you in particular are a crankpot, the argument "X was ridiculed for his ideas, but he was right" is a common sign of one, and probably best avoided.) Confusing Manifestation (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 06:04, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's exactly it. The reader is confused as to what bias is, in my opinion.  Bias is not taking a photograph of real events, but skewing the events in one's favor.  Since I am neither Jewish, Israeli or work for the Jewish faith or the Israeli lobby, it's easy to see that Serouj is jumping to conclusions about things he does not know about.  For instance, if there were people there supporting Ahmadinejad, saying he is a great guy, and I ignored them and only took anti-Ahmadinejad photos, then I could see the charge of bias more clearly.  The fact is, there was nobody there supporting the Iranian President (although there were some people supporting his right to speak, but not supporting him).  If one can scan the Internet and find the Pro-Iran people at this event, please, post the links here.  Were the people protesting Ahmadinejad biased?  Yes, of course.  Is a photo of them biased?  Not unless reality itself is biased...  One may not like reality (and here the reality is that nobody was there holding signs pro-Iran) but that doesn't make reality biased.  This is a good example that people believe what they want to believe and I and Wikinews will do good to remember the words of Bill Cosby:  "I don’t know the key to success, but the key to failure is to try to please everyone."  As Serouj makes clear: we can't please everyone.  --David Shankbone 16:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with David. He was photographing an event. He didn't (to my knowledge) make an unfair portrayal of an event. He is not saying he supports either side of the debate, he is just showing what happened in that protest. --Anony  mous 101  18:09, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


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McCain captures Florida, Giuliani drops out

January 30, 2008

United States Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has won the State of Florida's Republican Party primary election, edging out former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney by five percent (36 versus 31%). With this win, Sen. McCain is now clearly the frontrunner going into next week's Super-Tuesday primaries.

One time GOP front-runner Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who placed a lagging third in Florida, the state he based his campaign on, dropped out of the race Wednesday, largely because he had no previous primary wins and dwindling support.

The mayor endorsed McCain, a long time friend. McCain was quoted saying: "I want to thank my dear friend, my dear friend Rudy Giuliani, who invested his heart and soul in this primary and who conducted himself with all the qualities of the exceptional American leader he truly is".

Democratic Senator and former First Lady Hillary Clinton, also from New York, won the Democratic primary in Florida; however, due to Democratic Party policy, the state has been stripped of its delegates.


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John Edwards
I don't think that John should drop out of the race. Even though he lost the election in South Carolina to Obama doesn't give a perfectly good reason to drop out. I mean, I'm not saying that I was going to vote for him anyway, but still he needs to be a man, and do what he came to do.
 * He came to lose the primary? It takes just as much courage to admit that he won't win. 65.113.40.1 00:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh. Good riddens.  He's practically a socialist anyway. Spacehusky 00:44, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * If he offers support for either side it could change the tide of the democratic party. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.184.34.79 (talk) 20:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)


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User talk:PP7~enwikinews

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User:Skenmy/APC/February 10, 2008

This is a page for organizing worldwide coverage of the 'Anonymous' protests against the Church of Scientology on February 10, 2008. I would like to hear from those who plan to cover other locations and countries (USA, Canada, Europe, etc) also! These are the primary cities of interest for Anonymous.

'''Under NO circumstances are any Wikinews accredited reporter, or not, to step on the property of ANY Church of Scientology. By doing so, press or not, if unwelcome, they can have you arrested for trespassing.'''

'''If you can cover a location - add yourself! We need coverage for anything that is listed as Vacant, as well as many people on every location - 5 sets of pictures is much better than none!''' So just because the spot has one or more users in it, does not mean you can't still add yourself. The more reporters the better.

There are least 217 protests planned worldwide. Click here to see the entire list and if you are in or near any of these areas, please add your name and relevant information below.

Photographers: Remember: We need free license images - upload them to Commons!
 * Obtain photographs of the protests
 * Text-based interviews
 * Audio (Optional)
 * Other useful information (Journalist role)

Videographers: ''Technical: All videos must be in Ogg Theora. Conversion from MPEG is possible by using ffmpeg2theora. It will not be possible to add video any later than 24 hours after the event - so quick turnarounds are needed!''
 * Obtain video reports of the protests
 * Video interviews
 * Possibly "field reporter" sections (this is  at, for Wikinews Video)
 * If I happen to be in irc when you want to upload video, I can help with conversion. Bawolff 23:58, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

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Wikinews:International collaboration

This is a page for organising worldwide coverage of news events around the world. We would like to hear from those who plan to cover locations and countries!

If you can cover a location - add yourself! We need coverage for anything that is listed as Vacant, as well as as many people on every location - 5 sets of pictures is much better than none!

Photographers: Remember: We need free license images - upload them to Commons!
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 * See Original reporting

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User talk:24.250.32.171

Hello and welcome to Wikinews, the free news source you can write!

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User talk:Skenmy/APC/February 10, 2008

Sign up below
International users who want to be a part of the reporting by sending us your pictures and such, please tell us where you are attending and what type of media equipment you will be using.

If you are participating in the protest, any interviews that you do are not allowed as it is against policy, is a conflict of interest and against ethics.

People that request contact
Editor at Large. Contact about 5 days prior to protest to see if available. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:29, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Elias81@hushmail.com - attending the edinburgh protest. Should be taking pics and probbly video. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.93.1 (talk) 08:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Please be aware ...
It would be unethical to be a participant in the protest while also reporting on it. It would be a major conflict of interest. Cheers --SVTCobra 16:08, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * A very good point. Wikinewsians reporting on the event should not be "anonymous" and should simply go to record what occurs. Cirt 16:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Accredited reporters should also probably wear their Press Pass. It may help you if you get into any tight situations. --Skenmy(t•c•w) 18:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Another very good idea. Cirt 19:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Los Angeles
Hai...I'm kinda new to Wikipedia (as a user, not as a reader) but keen to get involved -especially with Wikinews. Altho I suppose I'm on the side of Anonymous, I will be going to the Los Angeles protest with a pro cameraman and as a 'liaison' for a reporter from the LA Times (Joel Sappell who co-authoured a six part series on Scientology in 1990). I will also be taking my own 35mm SLR and digital camera.

--Watchman Rorschach 01:37, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That sounds great! I hope to see some good video/images from you :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Also...if you have any questions...just click "talk to the dragon" and leave me a message :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:30, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Clearwater, FL
As much as I support the protest, I'm only going to be filming it. 76.1.180.28 04:08, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * We look forward to seeing your video :) Take a look at: Video 2.0 for our beta project. We hope you will be interested in contributing to it :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:11, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

New York, NY
I will shoot with pro video equipment (and interview if that's determined to be neutral). -SparkleTelevision 21:59, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Interesting video compilation
Anonymous pre 2-10 Scientology raid mashup - sort of gives a sense of the scope of the issue, recent events, and of February 10. Cirt 15:18, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

NBC quotes Anonymous - over 300,000 set to protest
Check it out. Cirt 01:35, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Well if they can say a nearly for sure 300,000 then we can probably double or triple that number to include those who are not affiliated with Anonymous. Then add about 100,000 or so for reporters and cameramen and bystanders and etc.....wow...this could be quite a mess. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:42, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I hadn't even thought about all those auxiliary people, true. Cirt 01:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Or as the case often is, anon. is over estimating there numbers to make them sound cooler, and to try and attract more people + the people who say they are going to show and don't, etc its probably not going to be that big. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * There is actually some speculation over at alt.religion.scientology, I guess we shall just have to wait and see... Cirt 05:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know...this has gotten worldwide attention...and WN just enhanced that attention by the article Brian and I did. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 05:38, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

March 15 protest
There is another protest scheduled for March 15 in Seattle according to Project Chanology.Is anyone else covering similar followup events? --RoninBK - (talk) 10:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Photography laws
posted this at Water cooler/technical, but it is very relevant here as well:

Excellent article that gives you the technical laws and resources of what you can photograph and what you can publish in the United States, which is the only law relevant to our U.S.-based servers.

Read up on this before going to take pictures for February 10. Cirt 17:01, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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From this administraton? That's surprising. NOT.


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Talk:Bush delivers final State of the Union address

Eight (8) address
per this list of State of the Union addresses at Wikisource I changed it to eight address despite the listed sources claiming it was the seventh. --SVTCobra 03:41, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

 * To be sure, I have verified that the first was published in the NYT published the transcript the following day. Maybe it wasnt officially considered a State of the Union Address as it was in February; NYT calls it a Budget Speech.  In 2002, NYT calls it a State of the Union Address. John Vandenberg 04:03, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

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Getting the exclusive lowdown on The Lowdown

January 31, 2008 The Lowdown, is a youth-targeted website aimed at helping young New Zealanders get through depression and other mental illnesses, and curbing New Zealand's high suicide rates. Wikinews' Gabriel Pollard spoke to Candace Bagnall who manages the Ministry of Health's National Depression Initiative which runs The Lowdown.

The Lowdown is a service that allows young people to talk about how they're feeling while facilitating the new ways of communication easily adopted by those aged 13-24 years, the demographic of The Lowdown. Young people can talk with the team via email and mobile phone texting, and they also have the opportunity to talk with other similar like-minded people through the on site Internet forum. Ms Bagnall said that research undertaken proved that text and email were the most "effective" ways of communicating with youth. "We also consulted and pre-tested with young people."

Texting is the preferred method for communication.

Ms Bagnall said they were unsure how much the service - which started December 6, 2007 - would cost annually, but expected it to be near the half-million dollar mark due to the recent nature of the site and on going development.

They do not receive any free services from Internet providers and mobile phone companies. However this isn't a worry for them because, as Ms Bagnall says, it is a "public service, not a commercial one so it is not trying to run at a profit."

The Lowdown is always able to be reached. A trained health professional is available between midday and midnight each day, including Christmas Day. Ms Bagnall said, "They work shifts and have their holidays at other times."

There are six staff members at The Lowdown. However, Ms Bagnall says, "The Ministry is aware of gaps [...] in the number of health professionals available to young people. The Lowdown is one of many attempts to improve access to services to young people in need."

Not only do they have health professionals on staff, but they also have support from celebrities. Local New Zealand celebrities accompany the exploration of the site giving helpful advice; sharing their own personal experiences and stories on depression; and home grown music provided free of charge. "The musicians were extremely generous with their time and music. They were very supportive of the purpose of the website and didn't get paid for their contributions, but their music is being promoted through the site."

An average of 320 visitors per day have visited the depression-focused help site between January 1 and January 23, 2008. Ms Bagnall said that most of those accessing the service are in the targeted market. "The service has been running for only a few weeks so we don't have accurate figures yet and we don't know the ages of site visitors unless they access the help services."

New Zealand has high suicide statistics for both youth and older people. Each year there are 500 suicides, of which young people account for 100. Compared to other OECD countries, males between 15 and 24 years of age have the second highest suicide rate behind Finland. New Zealand is placed third behind Finland and Japan for females of the same age group. Age-standardised rates for males are fourth highest in the OECD, the fifth highest for females.


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Interview
I conducted the interview via email with Candace Bagnall. --Nzgabriel | Talk 06:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

My problems
Gabriel, it's great you focus on New Zealand, but you aren't doing the reporter's job in this article. You continually talk about New Zealand's high suicide rate, but you never give a cause for it. If you don't outline what the perceived reasons are for NZ's high suicide rate, how can you write about a response to it? Is The Lowdown addressing what it sees as the reasons? Do other people agree with The Lowdown's approach? The reader leaves this article going "Why is there such a high suicide rate in NZ?" or even "Is it really high?" and never having that answered. Who says its high? Are they right? Compared to what? Then why is there a high rate? Does The Lowdown address those problems? It's great to have an interview to say "This website exists" but I think you were derelict in your interview duties to spell out what, exactly, the point of this interview is, because it is not apparent at the outset. --David Shankbone 03:08, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you actually suggesting that Gabriel has to follow WN:NPOV? Well, good. I haven't gotten around to read this interview yet. --SVTCobra 03:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I'm suggesting he actually ask questions that get to the heart of the matter. NPOV doesn't even come into play.  I'm surprised you even asked...perhaps that shows you rely too much on policy and guideline that, in the end, really have little meaning if we were to discuss them.  But NPOV does not even enter the picture in my critique.  --David Shankbone 03:30, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * In a way you are because you are asking him to get both sides of the story. --SVTCobra 03:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No. I'm asking him to ask basic questions.  Sure, it's NPOV in that "anyone would ask them" such as "Why is NZ's suicide rate high to merit The Lowdown and how is it addressing those specific problems?" but that's not "both sides of the story."  There isn't The Goverment and Opposition here.  It's a question anyone would ask, and it's not asked here.  So NPOV isn't the issue - it's basic reporting that's being questioned.  --David Shankbone 03:55, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Zimbabwe opposition calls for constitutional reform, may boycott elections

Way to go!!!

google maps information on anti democratic measures by various organisations
Here it says under categories various things anti-democratic that have taken place or are taking place in Zimbabwe to change the opinion of voters —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.103.159.1 (talk) 12:29, 28 March 2008 (UTC)