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Doha round of trade talks suspended after negotiations fail

July 25, 2006 The director-general of the World Trade Organisation (WTO), Pascal Lamy, suspended negotiations in the Doha round of trade talks on Monday, after a meeting of six "core" negotiators India, Brazil, the United States, European Union, Japan, and Australia in Geneva failed to make any headway in reconciling differences over agricultural trade liberalisation. The US wanted cuts in import tariffs for farm products, which were rejected by EU, Japan and India, who asked for cuts in agricultural subsidies.

Peter Mandelson, the EU trade commissioner, told the Financial Times: "If the US continues to demand dollar-for-dollar compensation in market access [cutting tariffs] for reducing domestic support, no one in the developing world will ever buy that and the EU will not either." Brazil also identified the US stand on subsidies as the reason the talks failed.

Susan Schwab, the US trade representative, said that the other countries sought exemptions from tariff cuts for a wide range of goods and that such exemptions would defeat the object of the talks - to expand trade. "As we went through the layers of loopholes . . . we discovered that a couple of our trading partners were more interested in loopholes than market access," she said.

The Indian Commerce and Industries Minister, Kamal Nath said that developing countries could not allow their subsistence farmers to lose their livelihood and food security to provide market access to agricultural products from developed countries.

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The major agricultural exporters US, Australia and initially Brazil called for reductions in import tariffs on farm goods, saying that this will benefit the poor by reducing the price of food items and will expand markets for farmers everywhere. Developing countries such as India, Indonesia, and the Philippines, which have millions of poor farmers, countered that cheap imports would drive the vulnerable farmers out of their livelihood. Their call for more tariff protection was also supported by developed nations in the EU and Japan, who also sought cuts on agricultural subsidies paid by the US to its farmers, saying that such subsidies distort prices and undercut their domestic producers unfairly.

Officials involved in the negotiations told the Financial Times that there wasn't sufficient pressure by exporters either to overcome the protectionist lobby. The upcoming congressional elections in the US have been cited by some as one of the reasons the US is holding firm on not cutting subsidies further. The unpopularity of the talks in many developing nations has also been cited as a reason negotiators from such countries preferred the talks to fail.

Peter Draper, a research fellow at the South African Institute of International Affairs told the South African Business day, "The question is whether it is brinkmanship underpinned by major powers' negotiating tactics that has led to the breakdown or genuine irreconcilable differences. If it is the former, then the question will be for how long the negotiations will be suspended."

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Oxfam, the NGO working on aid and development, which had earlier supported the talks but later withdrew it after the subsidy-cuts it sought appeared to be unlikely, blamed the US and EU for not cutting subsidies while demanding developing countries to open their markets. Saying that any delay has "enormous costs", it called for the US and EU to make fundamental changes to their offers.

The Congress of South African Trade Unions said the suspension of talks was an opportunity for developing nations to negotiate a better deal, adding that no-deal was better than the deal on the table.

The Australian National Farmers Federation expressed disappointment, saying that the suspension has cost Australian farmers $1.5 billion in potential new markets.

The US Farm Bureau said that it was not prepared to give additional ground until Europe offers more concessions, and that farmers will now try to lock in subsidies.

Among U.S. business groups, John J. Castellani, president of the Business Roundtable, an association of the chief executives of 160 of the biggest U.S. companies, said American negotiators were prepared to open markets if others did the same, and that Europe and other countries "surrendered to protectionist measures".

What is the Doha round?
The Doha "development" round of talks, named after Doha, the capital city of Qatar, where it was inaugurated in November 2001, focuses heavily on creating a fair system of trade for the benefit of developing countries, in particular for trade in agricultural products.

Successive rounds of negotiations have failed to produce agreements on key issues such as cuts on subsidies and tariffs. In a ministerial meeting in Cancun in 2003, developing countries, forming about two-thirds of the WTO members let the meetings fail rather than agreeing to a compromise. In 2004, the US came up with an offer to cut subsidies along with a demand that others cut tariffs. The previous two summits, the Group of Eight nations, passed declarations expressing commitment to the talks and calling for a deal.

The congressional authority of the US President to negotiate an agreement on trade, the Trade Promotion Authority, expires by the middle of next year. The amount of work needed to complete an agreement before that meant that the end of this month was effectively a deadline for a framework agreement.

Parallels to the Uruguay round
The previous Uruguay round of talks were also suspended in 1990 after disagreements. The director-general of the WTO's forerunner, the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT), Arthur Dunkel then worked with member nations to produce the Dunkel draft, which eventually lead to a final agreement in 1994.

Future of the Doha round
The suspended talks can only be revived by a consensus among the WTO's 149 members. The EU trading commissioner Peter Mandelson said that there were little short or medium term prospects of the talks restarting. Mark Vaile, Australian deputy prime minister and trade minister, said he would not accept superficial or partial reforms in the Doha round. The Indian Commerce and Industry Minister Kamal Nath that there was little ground for convergence on the core issues in the Doha round as of now.

The US trade representative Susan Schwab said that she would push the Doha agenda in regional trade meetings and with individual countries. She also said that she did not expect to use the current TPA, which expires in mid-2007 to enact a Doha round agreement. The Financial Times reports that it is unlikely that the US Congress will renew the authority, again dimming prospects of a near-term agreement.

Repercussions of the failure
The WTO director-general, Pascal Lamy said the failure of the negotiations sent a "strong negative signal for the future of the world economy amidst the danger of a resurgence of protectionism".

The South African chief negotiator Xavier Carim called the failed talks a "serious setback" and pointed to the "huge" opportunity cost it implies, particularly for developing countries. A World Bank study in 2005 estimated that global free trade in agriculture would generate gains of US $287 billion, of which $86 billion will accrue to developing countries.

Peter Mandelson, the EU trade commissioner said that formulating the EU trade policy going ahead will begin by the end of August. Australia and Japan have said that they will focus on bilateral and multilateral trade agreements. A Japanese foreign ministry official, speaking to the Mainichi Daily News, and Hilton Zunckel, trade adviser to developing countries, speaking to Business Day said that many other WTO members would focus on bilateral and regional trade agreements.


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Jewel in King Tut's necklace created by possible asteroid impact

July 25, 2006

A jewel that once belonged to King Tutankhamen of ancient Egypt is believed to have been created by an exploding meteorite entering Earth's atmosphere "hugely bigger in energy than the atomic [bomb] tests," said geophysicist John Wasson. The explosion was "Ten thousand times more powerful," added Wasson.

The Egyptian Mineral Resources Authority says the jewel is composed of 98% silica or glass, making it the purest jewel of its kind on the planet and can only be found in a certain area of the Sahara Desert.

Wasson also says the impact that created the jewel can be compared to the "Tunguska event" that occurred in Tunguska, Siberia in 1908 causing at least 80 million trees to be flattened, but left no visible impact crater.

"When the thought came to me that it required a hot sky, I thought immediately of the Tunguska event," said Wasson.

The event was recreated by a computer simulation. The results of the simulation reveal that the impact of a meteorite or an event similar to Tunguska could have been the cause of the formation and heating the ground up to nearly 1,800 degrees Celsius causing a thin layer of glass to form on the Earth's surface at the site of an impact.

Researchers also added that events like this are likely to happen at least every 100 years or so. Wasson says there are likely to be more impacts; it's "just a matter of when."


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Talk:Pope calls for Middle East peace

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US Marine Corps sets up MySpace profile

July 25, 2006

The most popular social networking site, MySpace.Com has a new user: The United States Marine Corps.

Until now over 12,000 MySpace.com users have signed on as “friends” of the Marine Corps whose profile, features streaming video of fresh recruits enduring boot camp and Marines storming beaches.

It underscores the growing significance of the Internet to advertisers as a means for reaching America’s youth. Recruiters say that they would never sign someone up to join the Marines unless they've met him or her in an old-fashioned, face-to-face meeting.

Gunnery Sergeant Brian Lancioni says "this is definitely the new wave since everything's technical with these kids."

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Man's romantic e-mail goes worldwide

July 25, 2006

A man has said he has "no regrets" after a romantic e-mail he sent to a woman ended up circulating around the world.

Joseph Dobbie, who is in his late 30s and lives in, told Kate Winsall in the e-mail: "If I am twice as lucky as I dare to hope, you will find this note charming."

After reading the letter, Ms Winsall forwarded the email to her sister, who then sent it on to her friends.

In the message, which contained five hundred and sixteen words, Mr Dobbie commented on how Ms Winsall's smile made "time stand still", going on to say this is the "freshest of my memories". He also said sorry for being drunk at the party the pair met, and he asked Ms Winsall out for a coffee at 's.

Due to the email, Mr Dobbie has received hundreds of e-mails and phone calls from people as far away as, , and. He has also revealed that he has changed his phone numbers as a result of the situation: "It got to the point where if I hung up either phone they would just ring again," he said.

Mr Dobbie, who runs a web-design company, has said he wrote the note in the hope of meeting someone who would be thankful for such an effort. "My mother uses an expression 'it's cool to be cruel these days' and I just don't want that in my life," he said.

He said Ms Winsall had been touched by the email, and she also apologised for its universal circulation. "I stood a chance with Kate. Now there’s no way she will say yes," Mr Dobbie said.

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 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
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If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! Doldrums 20:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

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62.55.147.84, welcome to Wikinews! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Talk:Atlantis departs hangar ahead of August 28 launch

Please, this is a report that was published during the event. If you want to have a story after the event then don't put the publish tag on early. You can use a breaking news tag to justify updates post-publish for part of a day, it alerts readers that they should return to the story for further information. However, in this case I believe changing the report to being after rather than during was detrimental. The prior version was an illustration that some contributors report close to realtime on wikinews. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


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Red Cross ambulances hit by Israeli strike

July 26, 2006

Six ambulance workers and their patients were wounded when Israeli missiles struck ambulances on a rescue mission in south Lebanon. The attack took place near Qana when an ambulance from arrived intending to evacuate three patients from the border town of Tibnin. Two ambulances were completely destroyed as their roofs were pierced by missiles. According to one of the drivers, two guided missiles were fired at each ambulance. It is claimed that the ambulance headlamps were on, the blue light overhead was flashing, and another light illuminated the Red Cross flag at the time.

The patients, the Fawaz family, all had minor injuries before the missiles struck the ambulance. Now the son is losing his leg and the other is treated for shrapnel wounds.

The Lebanese Red Cross demanded that Israel guarantee their safety through the United Nations or the International Red Cross or they would cease all rescue missions. The South Lebanon ambulance service is run entirely by volunteers. This means that 100,000 people of the Tyre district, villages below the Litani river, would have no ambulance transport to reach hospital.

Red Cross volunteer Mr Shaalan says although this is the first time ambulances have been hit by Israel in this war, it was only a matter of time. A lorry from the carrying medical supplies was hit in eastern Lebanon last week killing its driver and injured six Lebanese Red Cross workers. Yesterday afternoon the Red Cross office in Tyre trembled when two missiles landed in the building across the road.

An correspondent reports from the city of  that at least 10 Lebanese ambulances bearing the International Red Cross emblem have been targeted in Israeli air strikes in the south of Lebanon that have killed more than a dozen civilian passengers on transport to hospitals.

An Israeli army spokesman said, “The incident in which vehicles were hit last night occurred in an area known to be one of the main sources of the launching of hundreds of missiles.” The International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement said it had set up two southern bases, in the port of Tyre and the town of Marjayoun further east.


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Preliminary hearing for lawsuit against Buffalo, N.Y. hotel proposal rescheduled

The preliminary hearing for a lawsuit against the Elmwood Village Hotel proposal has been pushed back to August 10, 2006.

The hotel would require the demolition of at least five properties owned by Hans Mobius, 1109-1121 Elmwood and would cause the closure of several businesses. Already, two businesses, Skunk Tail Glass and Six Nations Native American Gift Shop have relocated, outside the Elmwood Strip. Don apparel, H.O.D. Tattoo and Mondo Video still remain on Elmwood; however, Mondo Video is planning on moving to a new location. The hotel will be 72 rooms and will cost at least 7 million dollars to build. Savarino Construction Services Corporation would be in charge of building the hotel and Wyndham Hotels would operate it.

Attorney Arthur Giacalone says that the court date was pushed back because "the court apparently felt it did not make sense to proceed with oral argument on 7/27 if Savarino is going to re-start the process." Giacalone also stated that the decision to adjourn until August 10 "was not my idea." On July 13, 2006 Savarino announced that they were withdrawing the proposal to "resubmit" it to "shed the lawsuits" against the proposal.

Savarino was allegedly supposed to resubmit the proposal by the end of last week but so far has not done so. The final meeting of Buffalo's Common Council for the summer occurred today. The Council will not meet again until September.

"If they [Savarino] took no action today, re the hotel, [that is, accepting the new application, or rescinding the prior rezoning resolution], nothing official will happen for the next 6 weeks or so," added Giacalone also saying that if this is the case, "the court may not be willing to hear oral argument on 8/10 since we will still be up in the air about what’s going on." Giacalone also states that he is unsure about "what they [the Common Council] did today."

Despite the call for a "do-over" of the proposals process, Giacalone still states that his client's position of the "pending lawsuit will not be 'moot' or 'academic' unless and until the Common Council rescinds its prior vote(s) that approved the rezoning" for the buildings on Elmwood and one property on Forest Avenues.

Sam Savarino, CEO of Savarino Construction has been contacted, but has not replied to any e-mails. Area councilman Joseph Golombeck has also been e-mailed, but also has not replied.


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Talk:Italian appeal's heard

Copyvio sentences
The first half-dozen or so sentences need to be rewritten as they appear to be a copyvio from this BBC article...

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Wikinews talk:Cite sources

What about reputability of sources? I seem to recall WpA having a big thing with that, is it the same here? 68.39.174.238 23:16, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Source order detail
The page says currently "It doesn't matter what order your references appear in" - it seems like there is a strong preference to list sources in order from most recent to least recent (although I can't find that mentioned in the Style page). Should we maybe note that here or on the style page? JoshuaZ 01:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I have often made edits to resort sources in this way. I guess the practices of those before me, resorting my sources, made me pass it on regardless of explicit policy. However, there should be a policy, and recent first makes sense, especially in 'breaking news' stories. But I have noted that the natural tendency is to list sources chronologically, top-down. --SVTCobra 01:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * How about "It does not matter what order your references appear in but chronological order with most recent first is a commonly used convention"? I'd almost favor just making it "Sources should be listed chronologically" since at least in theory policy reflects what the community consensus is about how to do things. JoshuaZ 01:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It does matter according to the Archive Conventions. "Sources should be sorted newest -> oldest". Jcart1534 01:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It figures that you would know the archiving conventions. Ok, we should have that somewhere more prominent. At minimum we need to deal with that that policy then contradicts this one. JoshuaZ 01:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

 * I suspected that the 'recent-first' policy came from somewhere, and not just hand-me-down practices. In light of this, I suggest making it policy for every news item. If for no other reason, it makes it easier on the archivers. --SVTCobra 01:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Are we saying the same thing, JoshuaZ? SVTCobra 01:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually I edit conflicted with you- I was going to clarify what I was saying to make clear that I was saying pretty much what you just said. Only detail is that I'd add it to the Style page to since people will likely look there for this sort of info. JoshuaZ 01:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, it should be on WN:SG as well. --SVTCobra 02:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, if there are no objections I'll go add it here and at WN:SG. JoshuaZ 23:58, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I do not object. However, should this have been flagged first or brought up at Water cooler/policy? --SVTCobra 00:12, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I've brought it up at the Water Cooler. JoshuaZ 00:17, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Multiple Sources
Shouldn't we include somewhere that we require multiple sources

"Only articles recent enough"
It took me a minute to figure out what "only articles recent enough that they have themselves passed through the system of independent peer review" may be used as sources meant. It referred to the reintroduction of the review system didn't it? "Recent enough" had me thinking in terms of weeks. If it's been ten years, maybe an update is in order.

1) Do we still want to permit Wikinews articles to be used as sources at all? 2) If so, should we change this line to something less confusing, like "only sources from after [2009], which were published under our current peer review system." 00:58, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

 * Re (1), of course we use Wikinews articles as sources. This is basic technique, on Wikinews and in conventional journalism. (I'll take a look at the precise phrasing, re (2), when I'm less tired yet have a moment not reviewing.  Probably not a good idea to build a specific date into it rigidly, although, yes, it'd be around 2009; for the somewhat less individually sensitive matter of deleting pre-publish redirects we used 2009.) --Pi zero (talk) 02:18, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, okay, tried something.  Is this revised wording clearer to you? --Pi zero (talk) 02:29, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I think that will tip off newer (as in since 2010) participants, yes. It was 2009, right?  I didn't go back and check. Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:32, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I hedged a bit, in the wording; one really ought after all to carefully examine an article to be sure it was reviewed properly if one is going to use it. But, yeah, that's pretty much it; the edit to Reviewing articles marking it as a policy was made on January 25, 2009, and the associated discussion indicates the practice was already in force. --Pi zero (talk) 02:48, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Date URL accessed
There doesn't seem to be any documented guidance on how to note what date a given URL is accessed. For example when citing utility pages such as those on GovTrack.us, which don't have a publication date (they aren't proper articles) and are updated as new information surfaces, we are to somehow note the date we accessed the site, i.e., (source accessed).

The guidance should recommend standard verbiage if we want standard verbiage. It might also be good to recommend that authors get an archived snapshot (from web.archive.org, for example) if possible when citing such sources.

Maybe a "date accessed" field could be added to template:source and the template could manage the verbiage. This could be useful even for citing proper articles, as they are often updated or even retracted.

I've received recommendation for two different versions of how to note the date accessed. That tells me two different people at least feel it should be standardized. Unfortunately the two recommendations were different from one another. ツ

I'm not trying to call anyone out or say I was mislead by anyone. In both cases the individuals were being helpful.

Michael.C.Wright (talk) 01:11, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

 * I was just thinking about this issue this morning. SVTCobra uses (source accessed), while Chaetodipus (cf. here) uses (date of access), also used by George Ho and the reviewing Cromium here; this article by WSS and reviewed by, of course, Pi zero, posits a third, (accessed). I myself have used (source accessed), but that was solely on the first's recommendation. Heavy Water (talk) 02:09, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I think, I would tend to use (date of access) or at least something explaining the date. I don't know what I used to do in past decades. I probably used various forms. Cheers, SVTCobra 07:08, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

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Scandal Appeals see Lazio and Fiorentine reinstated back into Serie A

July 25, 2006

The results of the appeals in the massive Italian football match-fixing scandal have today been announced by the Italian federal court. All four clubs involved saw their original punishments reduced.

Juventus originally were relegated to with a thirty-point deduction. Their appeal still sees them in Italian football's second division, but with their points deduction almost halved to seventeen. They will still have their last two stripped off them and the 2005-06 title will not be assigned to anyone. They will also have to play three games behind closed doors.

will remain in Serie A and with their points deduction reduced from fifteen to just eight. They will play one match behind closed doors. However, importantly, they have been reinstated into the, but will have to play in the third qualifying round.

and have been reinstated into Serie A, having been demoted into Serie B originally. However, both clubs have had their points deductions increased, in Fiorentina's case the deduction was twelve points and Lazio will start the season with -11 points having originally had a seven-point penalty. Both clubs will not be allowed to play in European competitions next season and will have stadium bans. Fiorentina must play three games behind closed doors and for Lazio it's two.

Other consequences
The appeals mean that of the original relegated trio, only and  have actually gone down, with  staying up to make way for Juve's demotion.

The European qualifying places have now been reworked. and will compete in the UEFA Champions League group stages, while  will join AC Milan in the third qualifying round. , and  will be in the  next season.

Reactions
Juventus have stated that they willnot accept their fate and will now try to re-appeal, possibly via civil courts. Chairman Giovanni Cobolli Gigli said in a statement: ""We absolutely cannot accept this sentence. For this reason we have decided to push our case in every possible forum."

Fiorentina could also appeal via the civil courts and owner Diego Della Valle stated: "It's the first step. We haven't done anything and we will go down every avenue to clear our name."

Lazio chairman Claudio Lotito was also angry despite his club being restored into Serie A. He said: "I'm not satisfied at all. Lazio has not broken any rule. The fact that we will not be taking part in the Uefa Cup is not in line with the truth."

AC Milan were the only club to show any form of relief at their punishment being reduced. "For a club that asked for a complete annulment (of the tribunal's sentence) it cannot be considered a victory," said their lawyer Leandro Cantamessa.

"But bearing in mind the tribunal's sentence, which was like being in front of a firing squad, this is much better." After being asked if the club would, like the other three, re-appeal in the civil course, he replied: "I don't know. We'll see. We are in the Champions League, otherwise I would not even be moderately happy".


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Talk:Red Cross ambulances hit by Israeli strike

more interesting aspects of Israeli targeting here if somewikinewsie like to make an article. international 00:05, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Accidental?
Title is utterly POV Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 04:29, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I disagree - the facts (admitted by Israeli military) are that ambulances carrying the Red Cross have been fired upon by Israeli forces. This is all that the headline says. Unless there's some way you can blow up ambulances with your missiles by NOT attacking them... 203.221.158.232 06:29, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

 * "attack" in active voice implies that the strike was intentional, which doesnt appear to be borne out by sources. am changing headline (which aslo has one grammatical error, btw) accordingly. Doldrums 07:44, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

 * *if* they used guided missiles, then how can it be unintentional, unless the missile failed? And if the missile failed - do you fire missiles into areas in which red cross vehicles are operating? --82.141.51.111 09:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Even with guided weapon you can miss your target.
 * Wikinews is here to report news, not to write Science-Fiction with *if* (i fo love Sci-Fi) Jacques Divol 10:16, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I wrote that missiles can miss the target and asked if regarding international law it is acceptable to fire missiles into areas, where the red cross is operating. But nevermind - not in the mood for rethoric discussions with people with an agenda. --82.141.51.111 10:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Why?
Am I the only person who remembers the Israeli forces pulling up Red Cresent Ambulances in the WEest Bank and Gaza, and dragging the Palestinians out of them, in case they were being used to transport weapons? Israel does not have a good track record of respecting the Red Cross/ Red Cresent. Are we to believe they wern't "attacking" these ambulances with their high-tech smart bombs? 203.221.158.232 21:43, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

an I the only person who remembers the palestinians using red crescent/red cross ambulances to transport combatants and munitions ? Palestinians do not have a good track record of respecting red crescent/red cross. Are we to believe the weren't using there ambulances to transport arms? 80.232.117.113 06:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * i remember, but i do not remember if proof have been shown about this usage of Red Cross Ambulance. Anyway i do not think it gives the right to attack red cross ambulances, or use Red Cross ambulance as troop transport. As i said war is a cruel thing, i know that many rules, conventions was writen to try to "humanize" war but battlefield is always another matter, choice have to be taken urgently, and sometime (often) it's not the good one ... Jacques Divol 06:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

 * All I can offer is that Robert Fisk's book The Great War for Civilisation describes an attack on an ambulance being used to ferry civilians. Which does show that ambulances are misused, though that's not to say he claims they are used for ferrying arms.  What is clear is that Israel believes that ambulances are used for military purposes. Regards, BenAveling 04:06, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

unrelated news
But it gives, maybe i am wrong, some clues how Israel manage relations this Red Cross : here a press release frm Red Cross : [ICRC calls on Israeli army to immediately leave Palestine Red Crescent premises in Nablus]. i do not know if Israel Army leaves the premises now.

Of course Red Crosses people are often in the middle of the battlefield in order to save lives, not hidden into well cooled hotel.

War is a bad think and kill people even whith hightech weapons, it's the main problem. Jacques Divol 10:13, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

hijacking of ambulance
I cant se the relevance of adding this as it dont in anyway give Israel a excuse to attack ICRC marked ambulances. As I see it its a warcrime. It is of cause a crime to use 'ambulances' in military operations also. international 00:59, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

This is a hoax
These ambulances were not hit by Israeli missiles http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/ —Jwalter 14:08, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Not really: See this Downer blogged down on hoax, this Red Cross rocket snares Downer and this Australian Foreign Minister's unfounded faith in the internet.--Tequendamia 05:01, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * :-). YOU should see those articles. Compare the articles. Mr. Chulov is telling bullshit stories. speeding or stationary, Apache or drone, canopy or back ramp etc. etc. See this: http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005843.htm and this : http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/comments/missile_story_iv. —Jwalter 08:35, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


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Talk:AMD joins forces with ATI

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/07/24/intel_pulls_ati_chipset_license/ says differently about the Intel/ATI business plans terinjokes User Page / Talk 05:03, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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Wikinews:Briefs/July 26, 2006

The time is 05:30 (UTC) on 26th of July 2006, and this is Audio Wikinews News Briefs.

2006 Hezbollan Crisis
Comment:The name of this section was agree between MrMiscellanious and I. If you have any objections to this title, or have a better NPOV title, please leave a comment on my talk page. terinjokes User Page / Talk 05:30, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Lebanon faces humanitarian crisis
More than half a million people have been displaced in Lebanon as the conflict between Isreal and Hezbollah continues into its second week. A humanitarian crisis is unfolding in the country and outlined planned relief efforts. Such efforts include opening a safe corridor to allow aid shipments to be sent to Lebanon. The evacuation of foreign nationals from Lebanon continues. Israel launched more air strikes and also a ground incursion into Lebanon, and Hezbollah launched rocket attacks on northern Israel.

Current conflict being compared with "Operation Grapes of Wrath"
American Spencer Witt, who is currently filing daily reports from Lebanon, compared the difficulty average citizens are having today with those experienced during the Operation Grapes of Wrath.

An article for the Arab Times Bishara stated that the only difference between now and then is that Syrian force are no longer present in Lebanon

Israel attack Red Cross ambulances on rescue mission
Six ambulance workers and their patients were wounded when Israeli missiles struck Red Cross ambulances on a rescue mission in south Lebanon.

Lebanese Red Cross demanded that Israel guarantee their safety through the United Nations or the International Red Cross, or they would cease all rescue missions.

For most up to date information about the 2006 Hezbollan Crisis, please visit wikinews.org

Two New Zealand children die in fire
Two children, an 11-year old girl and a 12-year old girl died in a fire in Motueka, New Zealand. The cause of the fire was the ashes taken from a log fire, then placed in a plastic bucket. The ashes then reignited.

A 54-year old grandmother, then children legal guardian, and a 34-year old uncle, along with a firefighter received minor injuries, they are in stable condition.

New Zealand man arrested for murdering teacher
A 23-year old Tokoroa man has been arrested for the murder of a school teacher, Lois Dear. Dear's body was found in her classroom one day before term three of the New Zealand primary school year was to start.

AMD joins forces with ATI
Technology giants Advanced Micro Devices and ATI Technologies today announced plans to merge. ATI will be bought by AMD for 5.4 billion dollars.

Man's romantic e-mail goes worldwide
Joseph Dobbie, who is in his late 30s, lives in Berkshire and runs a web-design company, told Kate Winsall in an email "If I am twice as lucky as I dare to hope, you will find this note charming. "This romantic email, was then forward around the world.

Closing statements
We invite you to visit wikinews.org for up-to-date news and information. This has been Audio Wikinews Newsbriefs. Thank you for listening, and enjoy the rest of your day. This recording has been released under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 License.

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User talk:71.37.95.26

Welcome!

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Toll to cancel Overlander train service

July 26, 2006 Toll New Zealand has said that it will cancel the Overlander train service from September 30, 2006. The train runs from Auckland to Wellington, and is the only passenger train service that does.

The North Island Main Trunk line has been used in New Zealand for passenger services for 97 years, beginning in 1909.

Toll said it had been running the train service at a loss for many years now and was no longer viable to continue running the service. They also say that they approached the New Zealand Government for help so they could continue the Overlander but "after working through with the Government both parties concluded there was not the passenger numbers to justify keeping it running. Significant investment would also have been required to replace the aging carriage fleet," David Jackson, Chief Executive of Toll New Zealand, said.

Only 50,000 people used the train each year compared to the 200,000 people who use the Tranz Alpine in the South Island.

It was cheaper and shorter to catch a plane, between NZ$100-$282 for an one-hour flight, compared to $158-$170 for a 12-hour journey.

The New Zealand Green Party is disappointed by the news. Co-leader of Greens, Jeanette Fitzsimons, said "I predict that as oil prices continue to rise further we will need The Overlander again."

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User:Blobglob~enwikinews

See my user page on Wikipedia for now.

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User talk:Blobglob~enwikinews

Welcome
, welcome to Wikinews! Thank you for your contributions; I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews: By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes ( ~~~~ ), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! Jacques Divol 10:23, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
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Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Blobglob. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Blobglob~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:12, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

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User talk:82.141.51.111

Welcome!

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Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews:
 * Neutral point of view - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way
 * Cite sources - everything in a Wikinews article must be sourced
 * Introduction - overview of the site
 * Writing an article - how to write and publish a complete article
 * Content guide - what's suitable for Wikinews
 * Contents - the contents page.
 * Existing articles need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes
 * The front page lead articles often need updating
 * Developing stories need finishing and publishing
 * Discussions need your input
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Multiple sclerosis more often transmitted by fathers

July 26, 2006

Yesterday, a group of scientists from the U.S. and Canada, headed by O.H. Kantarci from the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, published an article in the professional journal Neurology on the transmission of multiple sclerosis (MS). The result of their studies is that the disease is transmitted to children more often when the father is the one having the disease.

In their studies, 441 children were examined whose fathers or mothers had MS, 45 of which were ill themselves. While only in 27 out of 323 cases, mothers transmitted the disease to their children - which makes 8,36 percent of the cases -, children of fathers with MS inherited it in 18 out of 117 cases - i.e. in 15,38 percent of the cases.

MS is an illness caused by the immune system destroying nerves between the brain and the spinal cord. Later disorders consist of paralysis, speech disorders, impaired visions and problems in motion. Researchers found that MS is not a classical hereditary disease, but is caused by a number of genetic and outer impacts. Also, it is likely that several genes (with complex interactions) have an influence on the development of the disease.

The actual reasons for people to suffer from MS are still unknown. But what is known is that it occurs approximately twice as much in women than in men. And this could be the reason for fathers transmitting the disease to their children more often than mothers. The group thinks that men who are actually ill are carrying more genetic material causing the illness than women with MS which leads to a higher probability for their children to also have MS. This is known as the "Carter effect" in medicine.


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Unfortunately, the picture in the news is not shown anymore. After having experimented for a while with the German version of this article, I found out that a width of 200px for the picture works, whereas a width of 180px does not. I even tried changing my standard view size for pictures, but this also did not work out. It would be nice if one of the admins could change the picture size (or do something else which makes the picture show up, again?). Regards, --Angela H. 19:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)


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Power and water return to Liberia

July 26, 2006

The Liberian President Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf today flicked a switch to restore electricity to the country’s war torn capital, Monrovia, after a gap of over 15 years.

At a ceremony to coincide with the 159th anniversary of the country’s independence, Mrs. Sirleaf-Johnson, who was elected at the end of 2005, pulled a switch draped in the Liberian flag illuminating a suburban clinic in the city.

"The switching on today is symbolic. It symbolises our journey from darkness to illumination," President Johnson-Sirleaf said in a speech.

She was joined by the Ghanaian President John Kuffour who said “…with the restoration of power to Liberia the period of gloom and darkness engendered by political turmoil must come to an end." Ghana provided equipment and manpower to assemble Monrovia’s electricity infrastructure after it was largely looted by soldiers during the decade of turmoil in the country.

Pumped water was also restored to the capital at a ceremony on Tuesday, which the World Health Organisation has declared high quality. These two major milestones demonstrate visible progress to the Liberian people that the country is making progress, and will add optimism during the anniversary celebrations.

"My last daughter does not even know what a street light is. When she saw it she did not want to leave," one 45 year old Monrovian told Reuters.

After becoming Africa’s first female head of state, Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf promised to restore power and water to the capital within 150 days, a target she has just reached. But after decades of poor leadership, the country still lacks good roads and a working telephone network.

Liberia spent the entirety of the 1990s fighting one of the most brutal civil wars of modern African history. Around 250,000 people were killed under the rule of Charles Taylor’s National Patriotic Front which took power in 1989. After fleeing in 2003 Taylor has since been arrested and awaits trial in the Hague, Netherlands.

But since the peace was signed in 2003 serious efforts have been made to improve the country’s facilities. The country currently holds one of the largest UN peacekeeping forces of 15,000 soldiers.

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Historic Birmingham pub destroyed in Arson attack

July 26, 2006

The Dubliner, a famous Irish pub in the Digbeth area of Birmingham, has been destroyed by a fire that was started around 4.30am on the 26th July 2006, apparently deliberately.

Reports indicate between 100 and 120 firefighters were tackling the blaze at its height. There was also an explosion reported at the site.

12 people were staying overnight at the pub, all of them managed to escape the fire, although one man had to be treated for smoke inhalation.


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Nice suggestion for the title move on OGOF article. Your lead has been followed. MyName 19:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

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Despite 6 warnings Israel bombed and killed 4 UN observers

July 26, 2006

An Israeli bombardment killed four United Nations Observers, despite multiple warnings by UN peacekeeper. The peacekeepers at the post said the area within a kilometer of the post was hit with precision munitions, including 17 bombs and 12 artillery shells, four of which directly hit the UN observation post. The fatal strike with a "precision-guided weapon" according to UN military personnel hit the post at about 7.20pm. The victims were Austrian, Canadian, Chinese and Finnish UN-observers.

The Irish foreign ministry said that Israel ignored repeated warnings from Lieutenant-Colonel John Molloy, a key UN liaising officer, that its bombs were falling close to United Nations observers in southern Lebanon. The warnings came allegedly before an Israeli bomb killed four of the U.N. observers. "On six separate occasions he [Lieutenant-Colonel John Molloy] was in contact with the Israelis to warn them that their bombardment was endangering the lives of UN staff in South Lebanon". "He warned: 'You have to address this problem or lives may be lost'," an Irish foreign affairs spokesman said.

Suzanne Coogan, a spokeswoman for the Irish Defence Minister Willie O'Dea said Molloy "warned the Israelis that they were shelling in very close proximity to the post, and his warnings were very specific, explicit, detailed and stark." She concluded, "Obviously those warnings went unheeded."

Irish Foreign Minister Dermot Ahern said "Evidence that we have would suggest that this was either an incredible accident or else was in some way directly targeted".

In 1996 over 100 civilians were killed by the Israeli bombing of a UN compound in Lebanon in an incident known as the Qana shelling.

The United Nations
Secretary-General, Kofi Annan, said "I am shocked and deeply distressed by the apparently deliberate targeting by Israeli Defense Forces of a United Nations observer post in southern Lebanon that has killed two United Nations military observers, with two more feared dead."

Kofi Annan also said "This coordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long established and clearly marked U.N. post at Khiyam occurred despite personal assurances given to me by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N. positions would be spared Israeli fire."

According to an UNIFIL press release there were 14 prior incidents of firing close to this position by aerial bombs and artillery shells before the fatal hit occurred. Also, 9 UNIFIL bases were bombed earlier during this war but with no apparent casualties. It was also reported Hezbollah fired "from the vicinity" of United Nations positions in Alma ash Shab, Tibnin, Brashit, At Tiri.

Israeli representatives

 * Prime Minister
 * Israel's prime minister, Ehud Olmert, issued a statement. "It's inconceivable for the UN to define an error as an 'apparently deliberate' action." He expressed his deep sorrow earlier on Wednesday over the deaths.

 * Foreign Ministry spokesman
 * "Israel sincerely regrets the tragic deaths of the UN personnel in south Lebanon," said Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev.

 * Israeli Ambassadors
 * Dan Ayalon, the Israeli Ambassador to the US, demanded that Annan apologize for the remarks, which he called "baseless." The Israeli Ambassador to the UN, Dan Gillerman, expressed his "deep regret" for the deaths, and denied that the incident was intentional.  He said that he was "shocked and deeply distressed by the hasty statement of the Secretary-General, insinuating that Israel has deliberately targeted the UN post," calling the comments "premature and erroneous."

 * Gillerman said "Israel is carrying out a thorough inquiry into this tragic incident and will inform the UN of its results as soon as possible."

 * Israel Defense Forces (IDF)
 * In a statement issued by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), "Following an initial inquiry, it appears that during the operation a UN post was unintentionally hit . . . The IDF is launching a full investigation in close coordination with the UN."

China
Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said "China urges the sides concerned, especially Israel, to take tangible measures to ensure the security of UN peacekeepers".

Chinese Assistant Foreign Minister Zhai Jun told Israeli Ambassador Yehoyada Haim "China strongly condemns the activity to raid the UN peacekeeping post and urges Israel to carry out a thorough investigation and apologize to China and the victim's families, and coordinate with China to deal with the aftermath".

The Chinese victim, named Du Zhaoyu, was a Lieutenant Colonel of the Chinese People's Liberation Army. He has been in Lebanon as a UN observer since January.

Finland
Finnish President Tarja Halonen wanted a full investigation of the attack and also said there was no justification for an attack on the U.N. post.

Finnish Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja said "It is not the first time that they (U.N. peace keepers) have been attacked, but it is the first time they have been killed." Mr Tuomioja continued "These so called precision attacks seem to be hitting everyone except Hezbollah, there have been hundreds of civilians, international workers and others killed already and it does not seem that by these means a military solution could be achieved."

The Finnish victim was Lieutenant-Commander Jarno Mäkinen from Kaarina. He was 29 years old and joined United Nations Truce Supervision Organisation (UNTSO) in November 2005. Before that training officer and unit commander in the Uusimaa Brigade.

Canada
Prime Minister Stephen Harper says Israel's deadly attack on a UN observation post in Lebanon was a "terrible tragedy". He doubts that the bombing was deliberate. "I certainly doubt that to be the case, given that the government of Israel has been co-operating with us in our evacuation efforts" "We want to find out why this United Nations post was attacked and also why it remained manned during what is now, more or less, a war during obvious danger to these individuals."

Mr Harper said he was waiting for a call from Olmert. "I expect that he will be expressing his deep regret. But also I'll be asking for his full co-operation in getting to the bottom of this." He also said he would follow the results of the UN and Israeli investigation rather than launching his own.

The Canadian victim is Major Paeta Hess-von Kruedener, a member of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry. He had completed nine months of his one-year assignment with the UN in Lebanon.

On July 18, Major Paeta Hess-von Kruedener provided CTV.ca with an update of his mission via e-mail. He said that there had been numerous occasions when his post had come under fire. "What I can tell you is this: we have on a daily basis had numerous occasions where our position has come under direct or indirect fire from both artillery and aerial bombing,"

"The closest artillery has landed within two meters of our position and the closest 1000 lb aerial bomb has landed 100 meters from our patrol base." Retired Canadian Major General Lewis Mackenzie was interviewed on CBC radio, and told of an e-mail letter from Kruedener. "He was telling us that Hezbollah soldiers were all over his position and the IDF were targeting them. Since Hezbollah don't have representation in the UN, they use the UN as shields knowing that they can't be punished for it."

Austria
A statement from Austria foreign ministry issued by foreign minister Ursula Plassnik said "Such an attack on unarmed UN observers is entirely unacceptable and can in no way be justified" Ursula Plassnik expressed Austria's indignation over the attack and demanded an immediate and thorough investigation into the incident.


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Talk:Despite 6 warnings Israel bombed and killed 4 UN observers

problems with title
to my knowledge, modern armies typically use shells, missiles and rockets, not bombs. and i prefer

X UN peacekeepers/monitors killed by/in Israeli strike/shellfire/fire/bombardment. Doldrums 18:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * According to Wiktionary: Bomb, A device filled with explosives used for destroying things. --MyName 19:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * my mistake, it was an airstrike, and it was bombs and so...
 * Four UN observers killed by Israeli bombardment/airstrike in south Lebanon

Doldrums 19:11, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I like that.  It sticks to the straight fact that Israel killed UN workers; reporting an accusation is more taboo. MyName 19:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Title sugestion: Despite 6 warnings Israel bombed and killed 4 UN observers  international 19:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Agree about problems with title. ...it makes little to no sense right now as "Israel accused, "ignored" UN bomb warnings."

Suggest: Israel accused of ignoring UN bomb warnings --LazLong 23:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Its better but I think 'accused of' is not really good. They ignored the warnings just that. international 23:49, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * If we have consensus that the IDF deliberately ignored the warning (IIRC, 10 calls sent by the UN), I will remove "accused" the quotations from "ignored". zuzu 23:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Not

 * LA Times article

Jndrline
What exactly are you trying to move this article to? international 00:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure what your asking; I think you're asking why I changed the title back. To state that "Israel ignored" the warnings is POV - it sways the reader into the belief that it was intentional.

You have change the title and then rewrite the first part in a inconsistent way. international 00:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * How is it inconsistent?
 * 1) The first paragraph is a summary, which tells what happened.
 * 2) The next two parts are all statements and perspectives given by the involved parties (involved from an overall sense). Unfortunately, Lebanon is absent from this to be a third party.
 * 3) The rest all involve countries which were involved in this particular incident. An Irish Observer gave Israel warning.  The others have fallen nationals.
 * This seems pretty consistent to me.
 * --Jndrline 01:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Article is about that Israel ignored ,accused or not, the warnings and still bombed the wellknown and wellmarked UN post.
 * 1. you move pagetitle to 'accused'
 * 2. you reWrite the first part without any attributations or 'accusations'
 * 3. where are youre sources as Im not sure of youre editing are sourced.
 * international 01:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Your statement that Israel ignored the warnings, rather than having done something unintentional, is opinion.
 * RE 1: I moved the page title back to where it was
 * RE 2: I'll give you that. It doesn't mention accusation, and should because of the title.
 * RE 3: My sources are having read the existing ones at the bottom of the article and editing based on existing text; I have added nothing new.

 * Perhaps the arguement is over the semantics of how the word "ignored" is used and what it means. Ignored, is often taken to be deliberate action in of itself.  Because of its imprecise language, it has a POV connotation: it is a Weasel word

 * --Jndrline 01:34, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

 * So why did you continue to use that 'Weasel word' in your new title? international 01:52, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


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Saddam Hussein 'forced' back to trial

July 26, 2006

Saddam Hussein, who had been on hunger strike, has said in his trial today that he was taken to court from his hospital bed against his will.

The former leader of Iraq was rushed to hospital last Sunday after refusing to eat for sixteen days. But according to news agencies, he has ended the hunger strike by eating lunch at the court in Baghdad. "Saddam ate beef and rice and cola with bread which he brought from hospital," one source told Reuters news agency. He was fasting with three co-defendants, and they were demanding more security for their defence lawyers, three of whom have been murdered.

While Hussein was being treated by doctors in hospital on Monday, the trial recommenced without him. But today, he appeared in front of the court, looking slightly thinner. "I was brought against my will directly from the hospital… the Americans insisted that I come against will. This is not fair," he claimed. "Three days ago I was taken to hospital and today I was brought here forcibly from the hospital. I was fed intravenously."

He also said later on in the hearing that if he was found guilty and faced execution, he would prefer to be shot rather than hanged. "I advise you as an Iraqi, if you were in a circumstance in which you have to issue a death penalty, you have to remember that Saddam is a military man and in this case the verdict should be death by shooting not by hanging."

As his defence team has been boycotting the trial, replacement lawyers have been selected by the court. However, Hussein has dismissed the representatives brought in to defend him. "Your honour, I refuse to appear before this tribunal, but this tribunal can do as it wills," he added.

In response, Judge Abdel Rahman said: "Your lawyers were informed of the hearing and they chose not to come, despite the fact they have billions of dollars and sit in a neighbouring country, where they incite violence." Most of Hussein’s legal team is based in, the capital of Jordan.

Saddam Hussein and seven co-defendants are on trial charged with after Hussein allegedly ordered his military forces to kill 148 people from the village of   following an attempted assassination of the former dictator in 1982.

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