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User talk:Theshark~enwikinews

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User talk:Tilth~enwikinews

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User talk:Dinahjl

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User talk:Rikishi~enwikinews

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User talk:Zath42

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Your nicotine article
Thank you very much for your article, Nicotine vaccination. However, I would like to address some of my concerns towards it. One thing is that it reads more like an advertisement than a news article, and the title doesn't express an event. I will help you along with developing this into an appropriate article, but take a look at some of the articles linked to on the Main Page -- that should give you an idea. Until then, I've decided to de-publish the article. — THIS IS M ESSED OCKER  (TALK) 01:36, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I appresheat any assistance, it was short and i didnt spend as much time on it as i would have liked. I dont have much time online, and fealt it was a news peice that shouoldnt be missed, so i through it out there...If its not worked on by tomarow I will spend more time on it, following the style guid, and folowing outher curent articals...(like an add though, eh...)Zath42 01:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Upon further investigation of the article, I noticed that this information is hardly new: the National Institute of Health article is from 1999 and the Science Daily article is from 2003. News articles have to be based on recent events -- something that happened a week ago is perhaps the earliest accepted. I've listed the article for deletion, but you are welcome to continue contributing to Wikinews. — THIS IS M ESSED [[Image:R with umlaut.png]] OCKER (TALK) 01:41, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Its funny that its that old. It was all over XM radio today, like it was a braking news story, so i found a cuple of articals on it and did this, i should have looked at the dates on the articals.  I wonder if the news was about a development in the vacination?  Though the articals seamd to concure with the news bit from the radio.  Sorry for not checking into it a little deaper.Zath42 01:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It looks as though it's a current event afterall - that's great! Hopefully the article will be published soon enough. — THIS IS M ESSED [[Image:R with umlaut.png]] OCKER (TALK) 01:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the input, i would have gone to bed (should anyway evil internet) without checking further. It seamed to strange for the radio to go on about it, though never in great depth, if it wasn't recent.Zath42 01:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It's alright. I've developed an interest in the subject of the article, so I may work extra-hard on it. Who knows, it may get published tonight. — THIS IS M ESSED [[Image:R with umlaut.png]] OCKER (TALK) 02:04, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to my interest in the article, the article you have started is now published: University of California, San Francisco inviting tobacco users to test new nicotine vaccine. Yes, it's a bit long, but Wikinews article titles have to be descriptive of the event. — THIS IS M ESSED OCKER  (TALK) 02:34, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:Dmatt~enwikinews

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User talk:Robertmyers

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User talk:Indrajitneogi

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Darfur article
Hi!

I just wanted to talk to you about this article because you appear to be editing it into an encyclopedic article.

Wikinews is not an encyclopedia. Articles produced on Wikinews are strictly about a single current news event or phenomenon. When new information becomes available about a news event a new article is written, rather than updating a previously published article.

All factual statements in a news article must be sourced. Wikinews does not interpret news, but reports only the facts which may be sourced.

I'm not sure what to do about the many edits you have made to this article, but I am moving it back to development now. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 19:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Africa Portal

 * I've raised your observation about odd dates on the Water Cooler to see if anyone else knows what the problem is. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:53, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Dates on DPL is based on when the category got added (which one depends on how you have your DPL set up). They are only sorted using the actual date category on the Australia portal and the main page. Every where else its when whoever added one of the categories. see also WN:DPL Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 16:08, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Software required to open *.ogg files
I´m using audacity, which is freeware, and can be downloaded under the following link: []

It is quite easy to use, and it offers loads of possiblities to edit audio files. Since I´m using it only for a short while, I´m not very good at it so far. But I can still recommend it very much indeed. Gumboyaya 13:57, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * WinAmp is also good. So far I enjoy it for both music, Wikinews, and movies :) Just go to www.download.com and tpye winamp in the box. Jason Safoutin 14:00, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I just remembered, that I couldn´t listen to .ogg-files at all (including WinAmp) a couple of weeks ago (during my first days at wiki-news). But when I installed audacity, I had to install a .dll-file as well, which made it possible for me to listen to .ogg-files on audacity (and WinAmp, as well). Mabye that´s just all you´ve got to do. Sadly though, I don´t remember anymore what .dll that was. Hope I could help anyway. Gumboyaya 14:34, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello again
Thanks for your comment on my talk page, seeing you've managed to sneak a story about Thailand past me, next time provide a link :-) Adopting something like the Africa Portal would be a good idea, don't make an over-ambitious commitment, set yourself to make sure that all published articles that should have the category added do so, and try to do other things like do a couple of articles that will appear on the portal per week.

While I'm trying to follow events in Thailand I've got a lot of other things to do right now (I'm studying & working), so if you want to report on something go ahead. If you give me a shout I'll take a look and help out with related news and categories. However, it looks like you did a pretty good job, only thing to do differently next time is check the Reference desk for English language country-specific sources. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

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User:International/arkive1

--Cspurrier 21:59, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

test

 * Just wanted to say hi. (Cspurrier beat me.) Happy editing and welcome to wikinews. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 01:46, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks International; Wikinews needs you !!
For your hard work on the White Phosphorous story. Wikinews needs more gutsy reporters; please try to give wikinews whatever time your schedule allows. Neutralizer 19:25, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for addressing my concerns
Could you also look at "The Italian documentary showed photos of what it said were Iraqis who had been burned by the white phosphorous and white phosphorous smoke ." The underlined section is not supported by the sources. - Amgine 19:31, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

A fair warning to Mrmiscellanious.
It is obvious that you abused your administrator power. As you say there was no editwar at the time. Me and other editors did not engage in what could be a tagwar that you may have started by your way of editing and depublishing. I argued and showed patience because there was a editingprocess and discussion on talk. The article was put to develop two times by you and was republished after 14 hours editing and compromising. You unpublish it again and locked it. Now this was to initiate a "war" as seen on this page. And as above talk condescending about "a group of three or so editors" as I was a part of is a insult. This insident alone is enough for me to ask for your deadministration. But I only warn you this time. You really must change your attitude immediately and if you understand the gravity of this you really watch your behavior and act like a good administrator kept apart from your role as a editor that i might complain little about but it is another thing that is solved on talkpages each time durin the editingprocess. So be warned, the least step close to missusing your administrational power again will result that I use my right to ask for your administratorstatus to be revoced. With hope of future respectfull and constructive co-operation on wikinews project.International 18:55, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
 * "So be warned"? Well, now that I know you're threatening users, I'll take that into very serious consideration.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 21:29, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Im not happy about this answer but not interested in hairsplitting. I hope you see your administrator possition as commission of trust. If you missus it, it may be revoced. That is worth very serious consideration. International 22:59, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I do not view that as a serious consideration. I have a life, and this isn't a large part of it.  If I'm de-admined, I honestly will not care about it.  But instead of threatening users, I'd prefer to be more subtle about my feelings of others and keep them to myself and be courteous.  Perhaps you'd extend those same courtesies to others?  --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 23:19, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I dont want you deadministrated. You do alot of good work here. Im happy that you have a rich life. I dont generally threatening you or any other users. I think you care about Wikinews. Keep up the good work! International 00:32, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

:)
i see you took interest in 28nov EU article. i made some minor edits, but thought item needed a complete re-write, perhaps based on a different main source. would this have been appropriate? how to go about it? i am completely new. also, there is typo in headline but i didn't fix because i thought it might move article. --Cogito 17:04, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

that quote
I didn't see it in any of the listed sources. Do you have a source for it? -  Amgine | talk 03:29, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I found it... sorry about that. Now to grumble about LA Times splitting up its articles into three parts (somehow I don't think it's for courtesy of their low-bandwidth browsers).  --MrMiscellanious (talk) (contribs) 03:32, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Possible 3RR violation
You do have a good point where you say that Chiacomo and Mrmiscellanious could be teaming up, however it should be noted that Chiacomo could be acting as the neutral party intervening in the page-move war. —M ESSED R OCKER (talk) 00:01, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't wish to be the deciding party of the name — I started as a neutral party in this dispute, and wish to remain that way. Currently I am asking Chiacomo some questions to see what his involvement in page-move war is. Until we have all the answers, I've blocked the page from page moves. —M ESSED R OCKER (talk) 01:51, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't mean to jump into the middle of an ongoing conversation, but all I did was rename the talk page to the same name as the article (which had already been move protected)... I'm not getting involved further. --Chiacomo (talk) 20:39, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Policy proposal Re; Time limit for Administrators
hi,; hope you can support this I just put this on the watercooler policy section

This is an urgent issue that must be addressed now,imo, because an integral condition for exercising administrative authority here on wikinews is stipulated to be "You are trusted by the community"[1].

I have designed a very simple policy proposal. Our past attempts at dealing with this sensitive issue(e.g.ArbCom proposals) have been unsuccessful,imo, because of their complicatedness. I would simply ask, if possible, that this proposal be given an "up or down" vote (with associated comments of course). Any attempt to complicate OR DELAY IT (especially by existing administrators) could be seen as suspicious behavior, I think. Administrators who have the community's trust have nothing to fear with this proposal.

Proposal;

1. As of Feb.1,2006, adminships will be for a 1 year term. 2. All existing non-Bureaucrat adminships will terminate Feb. 1st. 2006.

3.Nominations for renewal of existing adminships will begin on January 24th.

SUPPORT;

OPPOSE;

COMMENTS;

Links
I added some links to the WC page... --Chiacomo (talk) 02:01, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
 * My point in wishing to limit discussion in the voting section proper is that if an RfDA, DR, etc has reached the point of voting, it is beyond discussion.. If we must still discuss the issue, that discussion can go on the appropriate talk page. It'll make a cleaner page, surely. The rants and vitriol that I mentioned are not limited to any particular group here at Wikinews -- both sides of every argument recently tend to user strong language and engage in lengthy explanations. If we're still discussing, we shouldn't be voting (voting is evil, by the way). Am I rambling? If so, I'm sorry... :D --Chiacomo (talk) 23:50, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Santa story
I like the way you did that story. I also feel like I would risk offending you if I said that I like the way you hold to the facts. So forget I said that part and Merry Christmas :) Edbrown05 04:17, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Disputed Articles
You cannot publish disputed articles. Especially when the disputes are not resolved. Even an administrator said that. read over the articles talk page. DragonFire1024 is Jason Safoutin 20:42, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Do not do that.
Do not blank the lead article template. Because this template is displayed on the main page such an action vandalizes the main page of Wikinews. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 01:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

"5. Wikinews articles are not works in progress. Developing articles are marked with the template. Once written and published they are historical documents; they should not continue to be updated or changed. Especially, they should not be altered to an angle or POV not reflective of the article as it was published. Wikinews is not an encyclopedia." You have edited a published article. Please do not do this. Edits will be reverted.DragonFire1024 is Jason Safoutin 09:37, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * There was a statement added to the article by a Doldrum. It contridictd the article and its contents by doing so and made the artilce misleading. So I deleted it. Plus artilces that are published, like that one, can not be changed once published. Especially previous days news.
 * The names of the terrorists came from a source listed. I made sure of this before adding the info. If you continue to edit this article, I will inform Administration. You are in violation of POLICY. DragonFire1024 is Jason Safoutin 10:00, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

sorry for being harsh
International, sorry for being a little harsh during the discussion. :-) I felt that we had the same concerns and was trying hard not to escalate the situation. This can be quite difficult, especially when having to deal with clearly ridicuous comments. Amine's edits addressed exactly the concerns you and I raised, and in its current form the article should be acceptable. (although I feel that it would have been better to wait a little until there is more reliable and less contradictory information available...) Keep up the good work! --vonbergm 01:43, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Category
Please remember to add categories to your news. We have plenty of portals but they display news only if there are present in some categories. See my change to No evidence of dead terrorists in US bombed Pakistan village. --Derbeth 08:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

User:International/casepage User:Mrmiscellanious
I have moved this page to your user space, and replied to your comment there. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 09:25, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Aziz Photo
Hi, Good work on this article ; I inserted the photo Deprifry|+T+ found; is that ok? Neutralizer 20:13, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

npov of New tribe
Why this article is not neutral ?
 * I do not think that article about secte could ever been neutral. And the link to their "news" page is a sample.
 * The more media speak about secte, the more they're happy.
 * Before your article I do not know the existance of this group, now i know them.
 * It's good, or it's is bad ? i must ask the question.
 * Frankly, the npov flag is a question i ask to the wikinewsiers, no more, just to aware.
 * may be some anti-clergyman french culture ?
 * i did want to hurt you in any way, if you feel angry, sorry i didn't intend that at all. Jacques Divol 09:18, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

You have been blocked
You have been blocked for disruptive behaviour on talk page and article Pennsylvania man named in alleged terror plot for 2 hours. If you would like to discuss this block, I am available in IRC, or via [mailto:amgine@saewyc.net e-mail], or you can discuss it on my talk page when your block has expired. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 01:27, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Your block has been increased on examination of your edits in the past 24 hours. Your block is for 8 hours for disruptive behavior on talk pages, articles, and main page templates, and violation of WN:NOT. The same routes of communication as above apply. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 02:55, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Your block was applied on examination of your edits in multiple articles and on talk pages. That examination determined you had engaged in repeated disruptive behavior, including vioaltions of the WN:NOT policy, specifically secstions 1.5: Wikinews is not a theater of war, and 2.5: Wikinews articles are not works in progress. I did not, and do not, make an evaluation of the content of that article. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 20:00, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Answer to Jason/Dragonfire
Intreresting not so little speculation you have. But you better make an analyse what led to the protection of said page and not come with acusation that just show disconection. The locking of the page yesterday was a result of "editwar". An editwar you was higly part of. Thats just a fact. You can blame anybody else more than yourself fore this editwar.

The positions that led to the dispute is easy to understand if reading the talkpage of locked page. I stand at my point that since you self continued editing after publishing you are not in a position to deny others to do it within reasonable time as Opalus did. By that and the timebumping  your unspecified refering to WN:NOT is without merit. You disputed my and others view and put yourself in a editwar. I read that your views are unchanged unfortunately.

Your acusation about editor teaming up for "INTENTIONALLY delayed publication" is redicilous if you have any means of see what happend. If so you are a part of this team if yoy dont se us all as meetpupets for Amgine.

Talking of meetpupets and teeming, look at yourself and Mrm. Btw bring in the subject of pow here. The editconflict was about quality not about pow wich was disputed in another article. Wich leeds to pow about US. I cant understand how you dont see your own pow on the subject. Some USamericans looks like some cracy fundamentalistic Iranian guys. Its like some kind of nationalistic blindness. Its a pity for the majority. This is my view and pow. International 12:25, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I blame YOU for the dispute. And I also blame the others involved. Your POV on the US has no basis her, nor do the others POV. If you cannot abide by the NPOV policy, then Wikinews is NOT for you. I reverted based on WN:NOT as I was upholding policy. The article was published and it was published after a major edit and was not disputed for a whole day until you and your "team" came along. Jason Safoutin 12:36, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

 * LOL! I think you need other things than hamburges to eat. Studeis pointing in the dirction that nutrious and healthy food make on feel better. International 12:54, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Whatever you say. I have no more time for you. Jason Safoutin 12:58, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

 * If I have to I will revert again. You need to read WN:FAC and read what a featured article needs to be. Once you read it, reply here and give me a good reason as to why that the Pennsylvania article is NOT good enough for the featured lead. Jason Safoutin 16:05, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Well, according to your reference you are the on that shall motivate the featured article. International 16:15, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Motivate? What? Pont is the article you want is not written well enough for any lead. See WN:FAC WELL WRITTEN. Jason Safoutin 16:19, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Im tired of your general incompetence. After last dispute I am not going to read your own references for you. Do it yourself and ****! International 16:23, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Team friend
Yes, I definitely am your team friend, international. I agree with everything you did with the article; please try to encourage Opalus to come back....I miss him/her already. I just put a bit of my view of the final article here. Neutralizer 13:42, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I have long ago stopped to take Jason Safoutin seriously, he seems to have serious difficulties in reading and his writing generally makes no sense. And on the rare occasion when it does, he misses the point. So I try to limit my responses with him to the bare minimum that rudimentary politeness (and the possibility that his comments actually turn to become relevant) dictates. --vonbergm 17:10, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * This has the makings of a conspiracy of the reasonable. StrangerInParadise 21:42, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, not so sure about that. I would rather characterize it as a loose conglomeration of people that gets regularly frustrated by the behaviour of certain editors or admins and seek comfort and support on these issues (especially when the going gets tough), but that in general have their own minds and no problem openly disgreeing with each other. :-) --vonbergm 22:52, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * That is what a conspiracy of the reasonable is all about. The Wikimedia Foundation principles provide reasonable people who disagree a framework within which to dispute and produce.  The current situation on Wikinews warps this, it is why it is so odious. StrangerInParadise 23:17, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help
Thanks for your help with my first story. It was very kind of you.Baffledexpert 19:31, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Thaksin escapes Constitutional Court scrutiny
I don't mind if you want to move this to 2nd lead, I felt the prior Featured story was only of interest to geeks and a little short for the placement. There is quite a bit of pressure to bring impeachment proceedings against Thaksin, and it is looking likely that a petition to force the issue will reach the required 50K signatures. The issue is getting international coverage...
 * --Brian McNeil / talk 21:56, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

In case you haven't read...
WN:NPOV. Based on your recent edits, you have not looked at this in a long time. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 03:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Please work toward publishing Full extent of Abu Ghraib detainee abuse revealed
Please make an effort to resolve whatever differences you have with other editors and let's get the above article published. I realize that you have strong feelings on the subject, but this is a newsworthy article and the project suffers when we cannot report news in a timely fashion. Please remember that everyone has a POV and that each person's POV should be respected. Also, let's avoid even the appearance of personal attacks in discussion pages. --Chiacomo (talk) 04:57, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Have you thought of ArbCom? --TUFKAAP 17:28, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Just remove the block, there is no 3RR violation hereInternational 17:33, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * WTF is goinng on here! TUFKAAP motivate! International 17:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

TUFKAAP

 * Who the hell gave you wrong info on this! This is all editings from my side regarding images on the diputed article.

17:07, 18 Feb 4 New image Abu Ghraib 12a.jpg in an article in development

03:50, 18 Feb 3 2:nd revert as below

03:35, 18 Feb 2 1:st revert. image Abu Ghraib 13a.jpg back

02:54, 18 Feb 1 removed all exept for one

01:07, 18 Feb 0 edited in lot of images

That is 2 reverts (3 if you interpretet 3RR spuriously)

Now unblock me, explain the circumstanses around this block an maybe act on that. An excuse is not bad if your not lied to. International 18:29, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

 * wake up !!!

To any administrator
Unblock me, This ****** block is not correct! International 18:40, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I've asked Chiacomo to have a look, I'll also leave a note on the WN:ALERT page. We jailbirds have to stick together. =)
 * StrangerInParadise 19:58, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I count at least five times of you removing either or  Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 20:28, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * You countingskill is dangerous low as i see it. Present the edit that violate 3RR. I think you hold a "grudge" against me. If not presenting evidence of your accusation you are very close missuse your administratior role by not lift the block. I hope you are not affected of the widespread U.S. patroitism-POV disease, you arnt?International 20:58, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Your block will be over fairly soon. (It was only a five hour block. Note, block log lies) Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 20:30, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * International, please do not threaten other users. As per the WN:3RR rules, the block is not five hours, but instead 24 hours.  Please refrain from violating this rule again.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 21:26, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Were is the evidence?International 21:34, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Where is the thereat? Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 22:11, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Reverts listed on WN:ALERT. I am sorry if you feel I have a grudge against you, I do not. If you change how you are acting my opinion on this matter will change as well. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 22:24, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

 * That list dont show any 4:th revert of a single item, though I see on policy that it dont matter as it is says page. Sorry for complaining at your counting skill. But there is more users that broke 3RR in this case. International 22:39, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Evidence for 3RRviolation...against mrm
03:30, 18 Feb reverting external links 1:st time

03:39, 18 Feb reverting external links 2:nd time

03:52, 18 Feb reverting external links 3:rd time

17:40, 18 Feb reverting external links 4:th time

20:54, 18 Feb reverting external links 5:t time

Its the same revert 5 times and if I add other reverts that obviosly cont in there is even more, no good faith here International 22:44, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Dragonfire1024/JasonSafoutin 3RR violation
17:20, 18 Feb 4:th revert NPOW Tag

15:07, 18 Feb 3:rd revert reverted Image

02:07, 18 Feb 2:nd revert NPOV tag

01:42, 18 Feb 1:st revet NPOV tag

01:11, 18 Feb add NPOV tag

Guess he, like me, didnt read policy good enough! International 23:31, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I would consider reverting an npov tag different then a revert of an image. discussing with others. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 23:33, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Please discuss on . Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 23:39, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * web Chat died, if you have an IRC client go on irc://freenode.net/wikinews

Bawolff ☺☻ 23:40, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

 * He taged after my constructive tries to compromiss about images. He didnt care that I changed from many pics to one to one without any abused prisoners on. But now I dont care, going to sleep. International 23:44, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Blocked
You have been blocked for violating the 3RR rule. --TUFKAAP 01:23, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Awards and Things
A suitable award will be handed over to Cspurrier for his genious sense of humour. It will be administrated in about... 3 days... International 03:30, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

title: User:International/arkive1


text:
User:International/arkive2

Did you intend to post bogus blocked messages?
What were you thinking? BTW, you can still edit this page. Also, see MrM blocked, then released. StrangerInParadise 05:43, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Hehe, in a obviously not so easy to grab sense of humour I wrote theese "bogus" messages to some wikinewsies who, whatever they liked/understand the humour in them or not, easy would remember that I am not an administrator whith blocking priviledges. The messages was properly signed. And there is not a question of incite false blocks as the message is a separate part of, if there is a interest by blocking administrator to inform the subject, the blocking process. Btw I have no time for editing the coming days so I take th block with equanimity. Thanks for your concerns StrangerInParadise. I hope you also can see the bizarr humor in this real block as a contrast to the general not funny situation on wikinews. Im sorry if I made wikinewsies angry and hurted their feelings and made your effort to help me in vain. International 12:05, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I knew you were just kidding around; I always get a bit giddy when I am blocked. Glad you are taking the thing with equanimity. Neutralizer 15:09, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

If you are still blocked, may I enter your support of my 3RR proposal?
I just realized why you haven't voted yet. Please let me know what vhat vote and comment you'd like added, if any. StrangerInParadise 08:44, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Unblocked
I have unblocked you as 3 days seems excessive, I feel you were blocked for long enough. Welcome back, please edit with care. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 08:57, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to understand your reasoning
Why do you think the Australian iodine story is better for third lead when compared with the Buffalo hotel story? I didn't understand the change, but perhaps I'm simply missing something? -  Amgine | talk en.WN 23:19, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Well, I think one of the problems with the iodine story is the "news event" was the release of a report. That is, nothing really happened. Whereas the Buffalo story covered a local event - a meeting - where stuff happened, people were interviewed, etc. The iodine story could be written differently to have more news in it, while still focusing on a phenomenon, but it would require a lot of research by an investigative reporter. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 05:29, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Lead article
The following guidelines are accepted for the lead article: A Wikinews logo is not particularly relevant. Even a flag is a better choice. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 16:51, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Story should be of international interest.
 * Current news.
 * Must include a relevant image.
 * Must be published.

 * Only this: The article you selected is no more suitable, perhaps less so, than the article it replaced. Arbitrary removal of lead articles appears to be an issue in your Wikinews behaviour. Please do not attempt to push an agenda on the main page. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 00:02, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I have seen no discussion section which supports your contention. Do not give me instructions, and maintain civility please. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 01:40, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

 * You are rude. Expect to be responded to in kind.

 * You also appear to be stalking User:DragonFire's changes to the main page. His breaking news topic was in place for 1:20 when you replaced with a non-urgent and far less international story, without a relevant image. Since it appears you are not aware of the lead article conventions, I explained them on your talk page as I have also done for others previously. I strongly encourage you to learn to work well with others; it is what Wikinews is about. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 03:35, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Dispute resolution - joint statement
Hi International... I've started a draft joint statement as part of the dispute resolution process. Please take a look.... - Borofkin 23:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Abu Grahib prison image
The image on Wikipedia is probably available online from a government website. If you can find the source on a government website, then it would be possible to upload it to Commons. If it is on commons, it can be used on Wikinews just by inserting the usual image tag. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 21:32, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Personal attacks
International, we are cut from the same cloth. I really appreciate the work you do on Wikinews, and you've been extremely beneficial to the project in my opinion. Your opinions are extremely valuable, too. However, though I generally agree with your opinions, your personal attacks on User:DragonFire1024 are simply unacceptable. I understand that the situation can be stressful, especially when other users have the exactly opposing viewpoint from you. But this is not okay. You need to respect the opinions and viewpoints of everyone on this wiki, including Jason. Maybe he's wrong, and maybe you're wrong. It could be that neither of you are wrong. It doesn't matter. Personal attacks are simply unacceptable.

Please. Please. Don't stoop to the level of a troll. You're an intelligent person. Please represent that accordingly. ironiridis 05:42, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

MrM and RfAr
I have listed the issues with Mrmiscellanious for arbitration as the WN:DISPUTE process is pointless at this stage, due to MrM having no interest in responding- Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 09:33, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I have now added my name as an involved party. Neutralizer 14:07, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Request for Arbitration
Your request for arbitration has been accepted. Please visit Requests for arbitration/Users Cartman02au et al v Mrmiscellanious/Evidence and begin adding evidence. --Chiacomo (talk) 00:08, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA
Hi International. I saw your opposition to my RfA which officially passed today. I was wondering if you had any suggestions or ideas that would make me a better admin for the community as a whole. I would really appreciate your feedback. Thanks! :) irid:t 19:20, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

In the future...
Direct all your future attacks, slingings and four-year-old mouthing to User talk:Mrmiscellanious/Sludge! Really, I'm inviting you to! After all, it belongs there. Play nice, now. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 19:31, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

RE: Quote
I see nothing in the WN article that denotes any quote marks whatsoever. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 00:02, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Bad
That would be your opinion. My statement, as written, says literally that you don't know all the facts, and that your POV is simply POV, not fact. In other words, your opinion of the situation is irrelavent; the title of that article is factual. irid:t 14:11, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
 * If you found my comment unnecessarily unkind, you have my apologies. I was trying to leave my apartment and get that redirect mess fixed. I resorted to being blunt rather than being polite. Nevertheless, my comment was intended to be taken literally; in this situation, your opinion about how many centrifuges Iran has doesn't matter. We're reporting on the facts of the situation, not speculation. irid:t 14:23, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

image
Can you please source this image? Image:Claimedwmdlab.jpg. Please remember to tag all images. In addition please upload all public domain images to commons:special:upload in future. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:16, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

My develop vote on the Iraqi bioweapons article
Concerning this version of the article, which was current when I voted, I noted the following problems: On May 27, 2003, two days before President Bush made public statements on these trailers, asserting that "We have found the weapons of mass destruction" and the CIA published their whitepaper detailing how these trailers were allegedly used to produce biological weapons, a fact-finding group comprised of U.S. and British civilian experts that investigated the labs concluded unanimously that these had nothing to do with biological weapons production and relayed their results back to Washington, according to the Washington Post.
 * Title of article was simply way too long
 * This is a run-on sentence:
 * "The Washington Post" is inconsistently capitalized ("the" vs "The") and italicized.
 * The paragraph beginning with "The Iraq Survey Group reported in September 2004" has a stray quote mark, or is missing one.
 * Dates are formed inconsistently, some with numeric suffixes ("24th" vs "24"), some with commas and some without ("May 24th, 2003" vs "May 24th 2003").
 * The last source does not properly use the source template.

These are all things I noted in a brief survey of the article. They stood out to me as cosmetic problems. They don't directly apply to MrM's objections, however, a vote for publish versus develop was called, and I felt this article needed continued development. I didn't have time to make the changes myself; I would have if I wasn't at my day job at the time. irid:t 08:05, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

RE
Then, don't give me anything to be defensive about. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 20:04, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Request for interview from candidate for US senate
Hi International... I'm bringing this to your attention because you have recently contributed to an article related to US politics. There is a request for interview up from Pete Ashdown, a candidate for the US Senate. Any Wikinews contributor is welcome to conduct the interview, if they think it is worthwhile. There is a discussion area on the request an interview page. I thought you may be interested.... - Borofkin 00:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Admin. alert.
I disput Messedrocker:s block and see it as missuse of admin. priviledges. To mix frienship and administrative action is a serious abuse. There is no wrongdoing from my side. international 01:45, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

You have been blocked
Hi International, you have been blocked for 24 hours and 1 minute for violation of etiquette as well. I (and other individuals) agree that you have not been working peacefully towards a resolution -- rather you've been "playing the blame game" so to speak. Feel free to come back after the block expires with etiquette and politeness in mind. — THIS IS M ESSED OCKER  (TALK) 01:56, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I want a better explanation. Look again at my edits, in good faith and refering to talk. Mrm just edited without any comments. I urge you to in detail explain what other I should done. Mrm started to use words like "Way to be mature" "If you want to throw crap at readers" "What a childish way", I dont think I shall be punished for reporting this on admin alert or what? What is my provocation? And who are the other individuals you referin to?

international 02:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I advise other administrators to look at this!
international 02:14, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

There is no provocation or attack from my side! international 02:15, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

The diff:s and their times
As I see it all relevant edits in this case following. (Maybe small misstakes due to complicated and timeconsuming editing to prove my innocense) Was it my responsibility to present this?

00:30, 1 May 2006 Boud edit (wikipediapars|Movement to impeach George W. Bush)

16:40, 1 May 2006 Boud edit in (wikipedia background info: Rationales to impeach George W. Bush; public perception of bush)

22:36, 1 May 2006 Mrm:s first edit removed wikipar arguing (We shouldn't be promoting disputed articles on WP.)

22:39, 1 May 2006 My first rev my reason (Never heard of this policy, link is usefull)

00:22, 2 May 2006 TALK Boud arguing on TALK. <-

00:25, 2 May 2006 Bawolff edit the wikipar (consolidate wikipear box)

00:28, 2 May 2006 mrms second edit Changed Rationales to impeach George W. Bush to George W. Bush. mrm: (We shouldn't be promoting disputed articles on WP.)

00:33, 2 May 2006 my rev my reason (rev to Bawolff ver, see Boud argumentation on talk)

00:35, 2 May 2006 mrm revert mrm: (Reverted edit(s) by International (talk) to last version by Mrmiscellanious)

00:36, 2 May 2006  my 3:rd and last revert my argument: (rev see talk). <

00:37, 2 May 2006 mrms first edit on TALKpage. <

00:38, 2 May 2006 mrm second edit on TALKpage including a personal attack.

00:45, 2 May 2006 my response on TALKpage including "I think you shall lover your personalatack mode quite a lot"

00:46, 2 May 2006 mrm third edit on TALKpage inlkuding more harsh language and personal attacks.

00:57, 2 May 2006 my complain on WN:alert (first revision)

Note: Boud Bawolff and me international have activly edit the disputed text and Karen did not oppose the disputed part wile editing somthing different. I consider that a consencus mrm edited against and I have some whight in my reverts therby: no waring from my side. And Changing Rationales to impeach George W. Bush to George W. Bush looks like povpushing.

international 12:57, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Whats my wrongdoing?

international 02:46, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You should discuss his edit rather than reverting it. It never hurts to take a few deep breaths and restate your position on the talk page. I realise that MrM doesn't do this either - that is no excuse. You should be as patient and as nice as you possibly can. That is the spirit of Etiquette. - Borofkin 03:00, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Mrm edit and dont use talk untill it is a conflict. Boud argumented against mrm and I refered to it. Mrm is the user who should use talk in this case befor he edit the article. He is impossible to communicat with by some tactics he use. Look at his disputed items, which I for one time adressed all, they are not all made to improve the article but a kind of blackmail, edit as I tell you or I keep the article in develop. dispute backgroundsinfo??? Anyway he tag it and wait, keep articles he dont like in develop. That is disruptive for wikinews.

 * There was 3 reverts from my side, there was no talk from mrm:s side. Baud had clearly argumented against mrms first edit but mrm still reverted. After my 3:rd edit I stopped. mrm taged article. I complied on adminalert. Thats the story. I still wonder what I did wrong?

 * Mrms new tactic 3revert and a tag as povpushing should be looked at insted.

international 03:20, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Messedrocker
"Violation of etiquette - he is as guilty as Mrmiscellanious in terms of provoking users" Blocklog

"Note that I have also blocked International for violation of the etiquette as well (he did just as wrong) for 24 hours (and one minute)." written under Personal Attacks on WN:ALERT

"Hi International, you have been blocked for 24 hours and 1 minute for violation of etiquette as well. I (and other individuals) agree that you have not been working peacefully towards a resolution -- rather you've been "playing the blame game" so to speak. Feel free to come back after the block expires with etiquette and politeness in mind."

These are not a correct descriptions of what happened and administrator Messedrocker:s block will be discussed!

title: User:International/arkive2


text:
Zacarias Moussaoui to serve life in prison

May 4, 2006 U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema has agreed to a federal jury's recommendation that Zacarias Moussaoui, convicted for conspiring with al-Qaeda in the September 11 attacks, spend life in prison. He will serve his life term in a federal maximum security prison, in Florence, Colorado.

"God curse America. God save Osama bin Laden. You'll never get him," said Moussaoui moments before Judge Brinkema read her sentence.

Brinkema responded, "You came here to be a martyr and die in a big bang of glory. But to paraphrase the poet T.S. Eliot, instead you will die with a whimper."

The jury, which consisted of three women and nine men, announced their verdict after one week of deliberation and a trial that lasted only six weeks.

"America, you lost! I won!," said Moussaoui after the verdict was read.

At least three jurors came to a conclusion that Moussaoui did not know enough about the attacks, three said that his role in the attacks were minor, three said that as a child, Moussaoui suffered from racism, nine said that his father abused him, and the other jurors said that the "dysfunctional family" forced him to leave his home.

This verdict "represents the end of this case but not an end to the fight against terror," said U.S. President George W. Bush. "Mr. Moussaoui got a fair trial. The jury convicted him to life in prison, where he will spend the rest of his life. In so doing, they spared his life, which is something that he evidently was not willing to do for innocent American citizens. It is really important for the United States to stay on the offence against these killers and bring them to justice."

Carie Lemack, the daughter of a September 11 victim, said "there's absolutely nothing in this country that all 9/11 family members are going to agree upon except that the attacks should never happen again, and I respect everyone's opinion. I think what's important is that we make sure Moussaoui will not get what he wants, which is to become a martyr and go down in history being someone bigger than he was. I'm glad that the jury looked at the evidence and realized he's just an al-Qaeda wannabe."

When Moussaoui spoke he said; "I have seen an amount of hypocrisy beyond any belief, your humanity is very selective humanity...You have branded me as a terrorist or a criminal ...you should look at yourselves first ...I am a mujahid and you think you own the world, and you must admit you are wrong."

He described the trial as a "wasted opportunity for this country to understand and to learn why people like me and people like Mohamed Atta and the rest have so much hatred for you. You don't want to hear, America. You will feel. We will come back another day," he declared.


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Talk:8.0 magnitude earthquake occurs near Tonga

What magnitude to report?
From the sources I've read, it looks like the initial magnitude reported by the USGS was 8.0 or 8.1, but that figure was later corrected to 7.8. The current magnitude listed on the USGS site (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php, Update time = Wed May 3 21:40:50 UTC 2006) is richter 7.9. That page also shows three follow up richter 5+ earthquakes, not two. The magnitude reported in the article has pinballed around a bit; should we continue to keep it up to the minute, or since the breaking tag has been removed from this article, can we just leave it be until the reports settle down? Lukfugl 21:50, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

 * That's a hard one. A little bit of both. Mabie just leave it be until the reports settle down or keep it up to the minute. I would keep it up to the minute because the article's always change. Just a suggestion. Feel free to do whatever is better. Thanks. FellowWikiNews 00:05, 4 May 2006 (UTC)


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Earl Woods, father of Tiger Woods, dies at age 74

May 3, 2006 Earl Woods, the father of Tiger Woods, died from cancer today at his home in Cypress, California, at the age of 74.

Woods died of prostate cancer, which returned to his body after a previous bout with prostate cancer from 1986-1998, but it was treated with radiation.

Although Earl was sometimes posed as an overwhelming, bossy father, Tiger treated Earl as "an amazing dad, coach, mentor, soldier, husband and friend." Tiger also posted that "I wouldn't be where I am today without him, and I'm honored to continue his legacy of sharing and caring."

Tiger skipped this week's PGA Tour event, the Wachovia Championship, to be with his father. Two of his closest friends, Mark O'Meara and John Cook, followed suit.

Woods, who grew up as an African-American child during the 1940's in rural Kansas, played baseball as a high-schooler and in the Negro Leagues, withstanding racism the whole way. During his two trips in the Vietnam War as a Green Beret, Woods met his lifelong friend, Vietnamese Col. Vuong Dang "Tiger" Phong, after whom he named his son.

Earl met his wife, Kutilda Punsawad, in Thailand. They married in 1969, and their son, "Tiger", was born December 30, 1975.


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Rescue attempts continue for Tasmanian miners

May 4, 2006

Rescuers are continuing their efforts to reach the trapped miners in the Beaconsfield mine in northern Tasmania.

A five tonne borer drilling machine has been secured in place to drill a one metre hole through the remaining 12-16 metres of rock that fell into the main shaft.

Since drilling began at 7pm last night, the machine has made a 2 cm wide pilot hole half way to the miners.

The trapped miners have been given egg sandwiches and yogurt, and have received apple ipod MP3 players filled with the miners favourite songs to pass the time and drown out the sounds of the drilling.

Meanwhile on the surface, the ever-growing media frenzy in Beaconsfield has forced the mine operators to enforce bag checks of rescuers entering the mine to ensure that no recording devices are taken into the mine.


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Voting day for local elections in England

May 4, 2006

Voting day, Thursday 4th May, has begun for the local elections taking place in England. The elections will appoint local councillors, and, in some boroughs, local Mayors. Council elections include all 32 London boroughs, 36 metropolitan boroughs and 88 non-metropolitan districts. Mayoral elections will be held for Hackney, Watford, Newham and Lewisham. In the non-London council areas, the voting will affect either a third or half of the total number of councillors. In London, all council seats are up for election. Some council areas are not taking part in the election.

Polling stations will open between 07:00 and 22:00. Many voters will also have had the opportunity to apply for a postal vote. Counting begins once the polls close, with the results typically available in the early hours of the next morning.

The Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrat parties have all launched major campaigns, as have some smaller parties such as the Green Party, UKIP (United Kingdom Independence Party), Respect and the BNP (British National Party).


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Filmmaker releases trailer for open source feature film

May 3, 2006

New filmmaker Solomon Rothman has released a trailer for his upcoming full length open source film called 'Boy Who Never Slept.' Both the movie and the trailer are offered under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.5 license. The movie is set to be released at the end of May.

The film centers on the life of an insomniac writer who meets a teenage girl online, and a friendship that grows into an unlikely love story wrapped in harsh reality. The movie deals with various issues, including the romanticization of love, age-related issues in relationships, like statuatory rape (he's 23, and she's 16), and the idea of love in the online realm.

Rothman, a writer, amateur filmmaker and web designer, lives in the Los Angeles Area. He wrote, directed and produced the movie with Aurora Mae, his girlfriend and partner. Producing the movie for $200 while they were in college, they used friends as actors and later sold the camera on eBay to recoup the expense.

Rothman has spoken about the power of the internet as a distribution source for movies and has said "I believe it's possible that this movie I shot with no budget and released online for free could potentially reach as many viewers as a major theatrical release."

Rothman and Mae started out with the idea of creating a full-length movie that could be shared totally for free online. The film includes a custom soundtrack and script, both of which will be released open source as well.

The trailer is available on the official movie website and can also be found on Google video, YouTube.com, Ifilm.com, AddictedClips.com, and the Internet Movie Archives.


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Dissapointment
You know, "archiving" messages after one day is quite useless. Why not just keep your talk page blanked all the time? I am extremely dissapointed that you will not apologize to the community for engaging them in your own personal biddings that were represented as supported by the entire community. But, I have come to expect nothing more. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 21:30, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

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International
Amazing guy; he's not gonna let bad guys get in the way of him. He's ambitious, and his goal is to contribute his heart out. Don't stop now! — THIS IS M ESSED OCKER  (TALK) 01:51, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

 * International is a dedicated contributor, and uses communication tools to get people's attention! -  Amgine | talk en.WN 00:04, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

 * User voices his concerns with articles and situations immediately, which in collaboration terms, is very good. Jason Safoutin 13:12, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Has good intentions at providing NPOV. User is a great contributer. What tea do you like? :) DragonFire1024 09:39, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Soft drink companies to stop high school soda sales

Hello,

I am the author of the "Soft drink companies to stop high school soda sales" story. I release it to wikinews under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 License.

Thanks JLCourier 02:24, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I hate to be so nit-picky, but I think we're going to need more proof then that, a notice on the website itself would be nice (if you are indeed the author, this shouldn't be an issue). Sorry, but we need to be sure that you are indeed the author.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 03:09, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, I guess thanks are in order for your zealous guardianship of my copyright. I'm certainly not going to change the copyright and reuse statement at www.jameslogancourier.org. I'm the advisor to the student newspaper/blog, and I don't think it would be appropriate to release the students' work under wikinews' suggested license.

So you'll have to be content with the previously offered permission. I suppose you could write me at courier@nhusd.k12.ca.us, the site's email address, which is listed on the site, and I'll reiterate via email reply the same permission for reuse.

 * The email solutions sounds good, thanks for making the efford. You should receive my email shortly. --vonbergm 04:13, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I cannot access the email server, which is maintained by the school district, not me. It appears to be down, so I cannot read your mail for several hours.

To speed things up, I have put a special reuse statement on the article at the originating website, www.jameslogancourier.org. I hope it's enough. Otherwise, you'll have to wait perhaps 10 hours, as the school district's technician's don't usually work overnight.

 * I think the previously offered permission is sufficient, myself. I see no reason for the tag to remain any longer. Neutralizer 04:54, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I second that. The reuse statement looks good too. Let's get this article out there. Aaron Winborn 11:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

copyright
I would like to see an actual statement of allowing this use. All articles are released under Creative Commons. If there is no real permission to use this article, the copyright stays. I am not comfortable with a blog statement used as "permission." If the e-mail servers are down, and I cannot e-amil the individual, then I am not comfortable without his/her permission. Jason Safoutin 11:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

A specific release under Creative Commons, posted on the article at the website where it originated is not sufficient?

It's hard to believe that a specific release on the originating page, placed there by the author at wikinews' request isn't enough. In fact, I've already met wikinews' stated requirements. Here's what it says on wikinews' "disputed" page: "if you are the copyright holder of the externally linked text, then please indicate so on this page's talk page." Patrick 24.5.224.240 12:30, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I have received email confirmation in reply to my request to confirm the copyright release information given above, sent to the email address posted onthe website of the published article. Thus I have removed the copyvio tag. Anyone who wants to see the email or has questions please let me know. --vonbergm 15:04, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

picture
Can anyone post a relevant picture? Taking a picture of a high-school pop machine and uploading it to commons would be great. --vonbergm 15:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the soda-machine picture. Can someone who knows the copyright issues transfer this picture for use in wikinews? I linked it already (but it does not show up yet...) --vonbergm 16:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Image is now on the Commons and thus in the article. --Deprifry|+T+ 17:15, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

litigation threat
I feel that the fact that this deal came through with the help of obecity related litegation threats, similar to the tobacco company litigations suits, is important background info. Why take this out? --vonbergm 16:56, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

The inference that the agreement between the soda distributors and and the Alliance for a Healthier Generation was spurred by the threatened lawsuit by is not reflected in any comment by the participants in the agreement that I can find. Perhaps a paragraph noting the previous threats of suits, none of which I can confirm have actually been filed, could be added, but to make a direct link between the threats and the agreement based on inference seems to violate the NPOV guideline. JLCourier 18:14, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The NYT article has plenty of information and quotes to back this up. That's why I included this as a source when I inserted this information originally. --vonbergm 18:18, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello, I just read the NYT article again, and it has lots of information about potential lawsuits, but, as it was published last year, it makes no connection to the Alliance for a Healthier Generation or the just-announced deal. Again, it's a reasonable inference to make, but there is no concrete evidence of a connection. A paragraph noting the potential lawsuits seems appropriate, but somebody else has to make the connection, not the writer. Otherwise, it's commentary and speculation on the part of the writer.206.210.225.131 21:15, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Hmm. Are we talking about the same NYT article? I am referring to the one from yesterday that I initially included in the sources. And there are plenty of people making that connection. --vonbergm 14:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello, As I previously noted, a paragraph regarding the threatened lawsuits seems appropriate to me. In the time since I wrote the story, I've read some quotes from Professor and lawyer Richard Daynard, who's role in the agreement is not precisely clear, in which he makes a connection between the agreement and the lawsuits. There is a woman from the Center for Science in the Public Interest, one of the lawsuit threateners, who also makes the connection. They seem authoritative enough to use to make the connection. Feel free to do so, as far as I'm concerned. However, the original addition cited "reports" which were not identified, as I recall, which seemed insufficient to me.JLCourier 00:42, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, the NYT article quotes those people, and even Clinton is quoted insisting that it was not only litigation that made this work (implying that litigation threats played some role). At this point it is probably not a good idea to change the published story, and this might not be enough to fill a follow up. --vonbergm 01:18, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Title
Nice article. If I was to nit-pick, it would have been nice if the title was a little more specific (sadly all soft drink manufacturers haven't agreed to stop selling soda to all schools in the world), but as the article is published now and it's a minor point, it's not worth changing... Frankie Roberto 21:09, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

significance of BMI chart?
does it seem a little irrelevant to the article? The US isn't the only one selling pop in schools... and this is in no way trying to link obesity with drinking soda. Couldn't there be a more compelling graph? Personally I don't think drinking soda has anything to do with obesity... maybe it's all the junk food that parents let kids eat? My school has a crazy amount of kids drinking energy drinks and soda, but we have very few overweight kids. I've been drinking at least 3 12-oz cans of soda a day for many years, I sit around doing nothing, I eat sugary and fatty foods, and I've gone from 105 pounds to.... 106 pounds... over the course a few years. But if there is a link connecting weight gain to soda, maybe there should be a link to a wiki article about it?

Delete this article
This event seems like is happened. now most schools stop selling sodas. At my school in South Orange County (El Toro High School) still have four soda machines. When you say all high schools by 2007 is an error. Thats for most high schools. Most middle high school in California stop selling sodas by July 2004. Few schools in California still have another year to eliminate soda machines. -- SoCalCoast 01:46, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Spelling Error
...law will go into full affect...

It should be effect. Sorry I'm so nitpicky!!!
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Apologies?
No offense, but please do not consider me apologizing to Cowicide. If anything he should be apologizing to the community. Your "apology on behalf of the commuity" is false as the all the "community" may not agree with you. Jason Safoutin 05:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I would tend to agree -- I wouldn't apologize on behalf of the community. Also, I've unprotected Cow's talk page. Also responded to your request for information the Water Cooler. --Chiacomo (talk) 05:35, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Notification; "theatre of war" avoidance strategy
In order not to be accused of "theatre of war" activities, I will not be able to respond to many (perhaps most) edits coming my way. I am trying to remedy this situation through discussion and ,perhaps, policy at the water cooler. In the meantime, please do not think me rude if I do not respond to most edits. Thank you, Neutralizer 12:58, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

You don't speak for me
So stop doing so. I do not approve of this message, and I'm sure other contributors of this community do not as well. In the future, please make remarks on behalf of yourself, and please note that I will never authorize you to deliver a message on my behalf ever in the future. I know what you are trying to do. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 00:03, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Neutralizer, I'm not sure what MrM means by that link to needlenose.com, but I wanted to say that I share the sentiment of his message. How can you apologise on behalf on the community when it is clear that the bulk of the community does not agree with you? - Borofkin 01:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Borofkin, I am really trying to avoid being blocked for a "theatre of war" charge so it is difficult to know if I can even discuss this? It was a figure of speech and I assumed most of the community were unaware of that User's situation at that time. Perhaps users with other opinions should tell Cowcide that I was not speaking for them? Or do you have another suggestion? Borofkin? Neutralizer 01:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, I will tell Cowicide that some users have protested that I apologized on behalf of the community...would that be appropriate? Neutralizer 01:46, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, I just adjusted the entire edit. Is that ok now? Neutralizer 01:50, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * As I said above, I've unprotected the user talk page -- so it might be more appropriate to place your apology there... I very rarely look at my own user page, but I get a notice if someone leaves a message on my talk page... --Chiacomo  (talk) 01:54, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

RE: Cowicide
That messsage seems fine, however I do believe you should publicly apologize to the entire community for this action. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 02:05, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I have a different opinion. Neutralizer 02:06, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Its better, but I agree. I think I deserve an apology as well as the rest of the "community." Jason Safoutin 02:27, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * No "theatre of war" for me:) Neutralizer 02:33, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

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ISO adopts Open Document Format

May 14, 2006

After a six month voting window, adoption of the Open Document Format (ODF) as an ISO/IEC standard has become official, with a unanimous vote supporting the ODF (and some abstentions). The ODF format allows developers to produce office-type applications which use an inter-operable standard, allowing users to share documents without requiring a specific application to read them. The format covers text documents, spreadsheets, databases, charts and presentations.

ISO Secretary-General Alan Bryden said, "[this publication] reflects the international community's recognition of the importance of open formats in enabling business interoperability."

So far, the two major applications which support the ODF format are OpenOffice.org and KOffice. Microsoft Office currently dominates the market for office applications, although several third-party applications also contain limited support for the Microsoft Office formats.

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Talk:New Zealand Government to unbundle local loop

Unbundling the local loop is telecoms language rather than standard English.


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Picasso's painting sold for $95.2 million

May 4, 2006 Pablo Picasso's famous portrait of his lover has been auctioned for $95.2 million at Sotheby's in New York on Wednesday. 1941 masterpiece "Dora Maar with cat/ Dora Maar au chat" was sold to an anonymous buyer. This is the second highest amount ever paid in an auction. The highest amount paid so far for a painting is $104 million ("Boy with a pipe/Garcon a la pipe" by Picasso, 1905), which was auctioned in 2004. Vincent Van Gogh's "Portrait with Dr. Gachet" was sold at $82.5 million.

Dora Maar, herself an artist, believed to have helped Picasso in the execution of the famous masterpiece "Guernica," which depicted the horror of Spanish civil war. They had a relationship that lasted for a decade.

Picasso was born in Malaga, Spain on 25 October 1881. He died at the age of 92 in 1973.

External Link

 * http://66.218.71.231/language/translation/translatedPage.php?lp=fr_en&text=http%3a%2f%2fwww.musee-picasso.fr%2fhomes%2fhome_id23982_u1l2.htm