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New Zealand students able to use txt language in exams

November 9, 2006

The New Zealand Qualifications Authority (NZQA) has announced that a shorter version of English known as txt language will be acceptable in the external end of year exams. Txt language is where words are shortened for easier mobile phone usage, e.g. txt is for text, lol is for laugh out loud, brb is for be right back, etc.

Txt language has been approved if the marker can see that the paper "clearly shows the required understanding", however the NZQA still advises not to use it. Bali Haque, deputy chief executive of NZQA, said: "Students should aim to make their answers as clear as possible. Markers involved in assessing NCEA (National Certificate of Educational Achievement) exams are trained professionals, experienced in interpreting the variety of writing styles and language uses encountered during the marking process," Mr Haque is confident that marker will understand txt language.

Educators and students alike are divided saying that it will be easier and others saying it could damage the English language.

Mr Haque said that if the marking schedule said that good language use is needed then txt language will be penalised.

Debbie Te Whaiti, president of the Post-Primary Teachers' Association, said: "The authority's new stance reflected the situation in the classroom. Individual teachers are grappling with [txting] every day. However, teachers would have concerns if text slang became an acceptable everyday written language in the classroom."

Year 11 student at Avonside Girls High School, Cathy Adank, said: "Most students would be surprised to hear text language was acceptable in some exams. That's great. You'll just be able to get your ideas out quicker. It's so much faster; you can get through the exam faster." But her close friend, Harriet Prebble, disagreed, "I think it's a terrible idea. When you start progressing in the world, people judge you on the written language, and spelling things incorrectly seems sloppy and lazy and gives a bad impression." However both girls did agree that the use of txt language damages the overall spelling of the users.

Denis Pyatt, principal of Papanui High School, said: "While I would not encourage students to use text abbreviations in exams, I am excited by the language developments. I think text messaging is one of the most exciting things that has happened in a long time. It is another development in that wonderful thing we call the English language. Society has to adapt to change and I think ultimately text messaging could help resolve one of the strangest parts of English, which is its spelling, though I think it will be some time before text spelling is formally adopted."

Lincoln High School NZQA officer, Stephen Rout, said: "[I] will not be recommending text speak to his students. I would advise students to use proper English rather than text abbreviations. Students need to be able to write and understand full English and I would encourage our students to do that."

Lynda Harris, chief executive of the Write Group who help people develop their English skills, said that her staff are worried "about students being allowed to write in text abbreviations."

This decision comes over a week later when the Scottish Qualifications Authority also allowed txt language.


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Papanui High School is where I go, what a coincidence. --Nzgabriel | Talk 19:46, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * U gonna use teh txt 4mat? (that was sarcasam) Thunderhead (talk) (Check out my RFA test) 21:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * F u want 2 b cool in NZ u will tk all yr xams in txt... but wot ur gonna c is loads of nu kiwi idiots with diplomas.68.53.11.161 23:08, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I don't understand ;) --Nzgabriel | Talk 02:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC) (internet working now).
 * If you want to be cool in New Zealand you will take all your exams in text...but what your going to see is many New Zealanders with diplomas. Neebs 01:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Borderline Copyright infringement
I'm certainly no expert, and I was pleased to see this article, but for my taste, its a bit close to the original. I realize that a lot is quotes, and thats probably no problemo, but still... Nzgabriel, you said you were at one of the mentioned schools: wouldn't that be a first class opportity to do some original reporting :D ? If you could interview some people at your school, that would be way cool :). Many kind regards Sean Heron 22:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I have contacted school and awaiting their call, I don't think they would have spoken to me at school seing as I am only a student. (comment by Nzgabriel, my personal computer isn't working on the internet). 02:45, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Anybody can do an interview (of everyday people), you don't need to be a journalist :). Thats not saying its an easy task and you need a good bit of self confidence (and a concept) of course. The greatest demand is on time, as usual (I'd recon with a few hours at least). Still, it would be neat :D. Have a look at what I did, if you feel like it. And of course if you have questions or would like a hint or two, I'd be happy to try to help. Regards Sean Heron 10:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

standardization
It'll be funny if NZ next moves to standardize txt, making it more useful in everyday life, ultimately insuring that Oz & NZ become the new cultural hegemons. :P fyi, txt sucks if you don't know the langauge well. Nyarlathotep 09:43, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Orwell here we come
ever read the appendicees to 1984??? limit the range of language to limit the range of thought... abreviate to eliminate the emotional content of a word and restrict it to it's core meaning...

by the way (yes i spell it out) why not draw pictures instead of using letters in the first place? ;P instaed of memorizing some spelling rules we could just memorize a symbol for every word in the english language - what a great way to save time in the long run

is dropping a few letters really worth the disadvatages??? you hardly save any time(this is assuming we are able to process more than 3 characters per minute of course) - would it be more effective to practice typing rather than to elimiate characters?

elephant4711
 * not that simple, the way people write compact txt english is very similar to the one used by monks writing on scrolls. For the same reason, scroll was an expensive material, a monk must write the more he can on a small area, with the less space possible using even txt the very same on mobile phone !

 * but i agree that letting students use compact english is somewhat strange, in France we use some signs and txt in order to write course but during exam writing right french is important (even if the gouvernment asks correcters to not punish student writing bad french).

 * is a english vulgare similar to latin araise ?

Jacques Divol 20:44, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

This is funny. We got read out a thing in class explaining that this is all false - we have to use proper english in exams.. --202.150.118.34 12:55, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

the approval of text language is just a mockery of New Zealand English
There is a place for text language and that place is not in school's, text language should have never been approved by NZQA to been able to full out an exam in text language as each individual has there own unique way of text writing and you are not also able to figure out what that person has just written down. I also feel that as time goes on now that the text language has been approved by NZQA to full out exams that students will now want to be able to use text language with every day school work and if this is also approved there will be no reason to study english or to learn how to spell because most of the text language is gessed or just made up because it takes less time to write out and because they are unawear of the correct way to spell that particular word.

NZQA statement
I just finished reading the book "txtng" by David Crystal, in which he quotes part of this article. However, he also provides a link to a statement on the NZQA site (http://www.nzqa.govt.nz/news/releases/2006/101106.html), published one day after this Wikinews article, raising questions about the validity of the information used here.

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You can't say the public is glad to see him go unless you attribute the statement. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:57, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
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 * I'm not laughing, but this did make me grin. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:12, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

It might be worth mentioning the article in the Army Times calling for him to go. Nyarlathotep 09:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


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Three Walmart superstores open in Canada

November 8, 2006

Wal-Mart Canada's first three supercenters opened in Ancaster, London and Stouffville, Ontario.

The idea originally started in the United States in late 2005 and was announced that it would be arriving in Canada.

Flat screen TVs suspended from the ceiling will feature a television network, featuring fashion shows of Wal-Mart's clothing lines, TV commercials featuring brands the retailer carries, and corporate messages.

With an expanded selection of electronics, hardware, home and housewares, the Wal-Mart supercentre could be compared to Future Shop, Home Depot, Home Outfitters, Shoppers Drug Mart, and Fortinos. The supercentre has wider aisles, higher ceilings, clear signage, and cash registers in selected departments such as electronics and clothing.

"Our goal is to become the one-stop shop for customers," said Mario Pilozzi, chief executive of Wal-Mart Canada. "You see how fresh that is today? We are going to maintain that freshness in these stores."

Wal-Mart's Canadian supercentres are more sophisticated then their U.S. counterparts, because Canadian grocers have created higher expectations among the average consumer, company officials say.

However, Wal-Mart openings are controversial in many communities. Activists claim they can be detrimental to local economies, driving out locally owned businesses, lowering wages, and leading to suburban sprawl.

Wal-Mart already has plans to open fourteen new supercentres in 2007, of them Scarborough, Sarnia, Brampton and Vaughan will be early in the year.


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Planet Mercury to blaze across Sun today

November 8, 2006

A rare, but normal, astronomical event occurred today as the planet Mercury passed in front of the Sun from the perspective of the Earth. The event, called a was at least partially visible from most of the planet, except from Europe when the transit happened during local nighttime.

Visible as a perfectly round dot only 1/195th the diameter of the Sun, Mercury took about an hour and a half to move across the southern limb of the Sun, starting at 7:12PM UTC and ending at 9:41PM UTC.

From the point of view of the Earth, transits of this type can only occur with the two innermost planets - Mercury and Venus. Due to the orbital inclination of Mercury - 7° relative to the Earth - transits do not happen every time Mercury passes the Earth every 116 days. Only once every 23 times does a transit happen. The last time Mercury transited the Sun was May 7, 2003. The next transit will occur on May 9, 2016.

Such rare events have fascinated astronomers since the invention of the telescope first allowed them to view them. , for example, found Australia's east coast while on a voyage to track the transit of  in 1769. Recording these transits allowed astronomers to make the first accurate calculations of the distance between the Sun and the Earth.

While not scientifically used for this purpose anymore, transits provide a glimpse into one way astronomers can currently search for extra-solar planets. Astronomers using this method of searching will monitor other stars to see if the star dims ever so slightly as an extra-solar planet passes between the star it is orbiting and the Earth. Being able to detect such a small, temporary drop in brightness may indicate the presence of such a planet.

Viewing solar transits are fascinating, but only if done safely. People must never look directly at the Sun at any time! The safest way of viewing a transit is to project the image of the Sun as seen through a telescope onto a screen. It may also be viewed with properly made and placed solar filters.


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UK Foreign Office is over-secretive: Committee reports

November 8, 2006

The House of Commons Select Committee on Foreign Affairs published its Eighth Report today. This criticizes the way in which the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) protects information. The FCO has the presumption that information should be regarded secret unless there are good reasons for disclosure. The Committee regarded this management practice as a "relic of a bygone age, when secrecy was endemic in public life".

These days, in the Committee's view, attitudes to information are quite different and the presumption is that information should be available to the public unless there are "very strong and valid reasons not to disclose it".

The Committee gave an example. Extracts from the farewell e-gram from William Patey, the Ambassador to Baghdad, appeared in the press. The Committee had asked for, but had been refused, a copy of the message. Within days, the press reported that outgoing Heads of Mission were forbidden to send such messages.

The Committee noted that all the FCO Board papers it has asked for had been provided.


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This does not appear to be a very significant matter; but the reluctance of FCO to disclose has been mentioned in previous reports. If the Committee were to get its way, there would be a considerable culture shift in FCO and this could have implication on how UK foreign policy is formulated and executed. More detailed references are needed - to the press reports etc. about the e-gram and the subsequent instuciton to Heads of Mission. These are not detailed in the Committee's report. 81.179.108.226 22:25, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


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Study shows that Canadians enjoy daily commute to work

November 8, 2006

A new study by Statistics Canada shows that 38 per cent of Canadians enjoy their daily commute to work. One in six workers, about 16 per cent even said that they liked commuting a lot and 30 per cent do not.

The average commute for people from Burlington to Toronto takes about 45 minutes.

The shorter the distance to work, the more enjoyable the commute is. Most commuters who travel to work by bike enjoy the trip the most. "People taking public transit get the least amount of enjoyment out of the commute, which could be because their trips are often longer," said Martin Turcotte, the author of the study. "Baby boomers like commuting more than younger people," he said.

"The time alone is therapeutic," said a 33-year-old, who has been commuting for seven years. "I am alone in my car and I can control all the elements. I can have it hot or cold, have the music on or off and I can choose to take phone calls or not."

"It's also an opportunity to exercise that I otherwise wouldn't have," said Chris Heysel, who cycles 21 kilometres from Stoney Creek to McMaster University in Hamilton.

More workers said that they disliked chores like cleaning the house and grocery shopping more than they did commuting to work.


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Virginia Bill of Rights to deny legal status to same-sex and unmarried relationships

A ballot referendum to amend the Virginia Bill of Rights that denies to same-sex and unmarried couples any legal status that approximates that granted to married couples was approved by state voters during the U.S. midterm election by a 57% to 43% margin.

The Virginia result, along with voters from seven other U.S. states who decided on similar constitutional amendments, brings the total to 27 states that now constitutionally ban the recognition of same-sex unions at the state level. Arizona voters failed to pass a similar ballot initiative this election cycle, making it the first and only U.S. state to reject a constitutional ban.

Both the governor of Virginia, Tim Kaine, and Senator-elect, Jim Webb, publically opposed the amendment before the vote. Governor Kaine said the broad language against the recognition of the "legal status for relationships of unmarried individuals” within the referendum might have negative consequences on the state's business climate. Further, that "it would invite protracted court challenges in areas including contracts, custody cases and end-of-life decisions."

The Attorney General of Virginia, Robert F. McDonell argued that the rights of unmarried individuals are still protected, because such legal protections flow from common law, not solely from marriage.

However, the Bill of Rights is the | basis and foundation of government. Thus, as discussed by |Judge Raymond A. Warren, any portion of common law that is determined by the seven-member Virginia Supreme Court to be in conflict with the amendment would no longer provide any such protection within Virginia.

The amendment establishes a section that explicitly prevents the government from recognizing the legal status of any relationships outside of heterosexual marriage. Though paragraph one of the amendment specifically bans same-sex marriage, paragraph two prevents the government from recognizing the legal status of any relationship of unmarried individuals that would in anyway approximate marriage.

Transfer of power and business concerns
Judge Warren argues that one of the greatest dangers of this amendment is that “no body knows what the sentence means”. The Judge’s position is reinforced by the views of an eminent Professor of Law within Virginia, who is a recognized expert on the social issues surrounding marriage. The professor described the amendment as “murky”.

Judge Warren argues that this modification affectively transfers broad power to the 7-member Supreme Court to interpret how this amendment affects the existing laws, benefits and rights that unwed partners currently enjoy. This would be in contrast to instead creating public policies, which could be adjusted through democratic processes as social understandings of the underlying issues evolve.

The Judge’s argument, which is consistent with Tim Kaine’s and Senator-elect Jim Webb’s position, is that there will be significant costs to the society and many years of uncertainty, as these issues are worked-out in the courts.

For instance, the domestic partner benefits that are offered by many companies operating in Virginia are a concern. Since corporate policies must be consistent with Virginia law, these domestic partner benefits are at risk. This uncertainty may then discourage both the talent and the employers who need to attract that talent from doing business in the state.

Making “murky” modifications to the very foundation of government, which in-turn underlies the most complex social system in history, argues for prudence and pause.

Potential for unintended impacts on current law
All of Virginia’s current laws were formed on the foundation that they needed to secure the rights identified in the Bill of Rights. However, that foundation has now fundamentally changed. The state is now forbidden from recognizing a broad set of previously recognized rights associated with unwed relationships. So many existing laws may now be unconstitutional, or will no longer safeguard same-sex or unwed couples and their families.

For example, in 2004 Ohio passed a similar amendment with practically identical language. They also had a 27-year-old domestic-violence law that was applied to all domestic partners. But on May 30, 2006, Ohio’s Third Appellant Court ruled that that law was now unconstitutional due to Ohio’s 2004 “Defense of Marriage” amendment. Though Ohio’s Supreme Court must still hear this case, it does demonstrate how the amendment threatens the stability of existing laws concerning unwed relationships. An excerpt from the ruling follows:

Stabilizing the marriage tradition
The institution of marriage, as a union between one man and one woman has been a dominant tradition within our society for at least 2 thousand years. The existence of a fundamental tradition that is rooted with the procreation of the human species argues for a conservative and measured approach when faced with absorbing the changes demanded by an evolving society. (Buckley and Ribstein)

Since the recognition of same-sex marriage represents a significant departure from these traditions, Virginia law has prohibited same sex marriage for over 30 years. Judge Warren argues that it would have been unlikely that Virginia's rather conservative judges would have changed the definition of marriage, even without the amendment.

However, supporters of the amendment are also concerned that the recognition of new standard form relationships, such as same-sex unions could have unintended consequences.

For example, a writer of The Weekly Standard, Stanley Kurtz, a fellow at the Hudson Institute, blames same-sex marriage in the Netherlands for an increase in parental cohabitation contracts. He asserts that same-sex marriage has detached procreation from marriage in the Dutch mind and would likely do the same in the United States.

However, in the 1999 case of Baker v. State, the Vermont court rejected as illogical and lacking empirical support, the argument that giving the same benefits to same sex and heterosexual couples would have unpredictable effects on the institution of marriage(Buckley and Ribstein). However, it stopped short of requiring the recognition of same sex marriage. The court noted that arguments about destabilization of the institution of marriage are “not altogether irrelevant. A sudden change in the marriage laws or the statutory benefits traditionally incidental to marriage may have disruptive and unforeseen consequences.”

Security of Individual Rights
The 1776 |Virginia Bill of Rights was the first document in the Americas to declare protection of Individual Rights to all people, to define these rights as forming the foundation of the government and to recognize Individual Rights as being superior to all other Laws instituted by the government.

Rights differ fundamentally from other instituted laws. Individual Rights are an inherent power or liberty, not awarded by human power, to which one is justly entitled and which cannot be legally deprived or restricted by government. Laws, on the other hand, are the obligations and restrictions instituted by governments that are needed to secure those rights. Since rights are considered superior to laws, the judicial branch should necessarily strike down the passage of any law that violates any of these rights.

The state Supreme Courts of Massachusetts in 2003 and of New Jersey last month, have ruled that anti-same-sex marriage laws were unconstitutional because they found that the state had to give the same rights to gay couples as they did to heterosexual couples.

To avoid this outcome, proponents of preserving only heterosexual marriage as an acceptable partnership, have chosen to amend marriage laws, which carried the risk of being found unconstitutional, into the Bill of Rights.

The following sections of the Virginia Bill of Rights may be in conflict with the “Marriage” amendment:

The Bill of Rights is also a vehicle whereby Virginia decided what is a right.


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would a blog post count? http://www.sydneyobservatory.com.au/blog/?p=168 terinjokes User Page / Talk 03:49, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Terin, I looked at the blog, but I'm not sure how that can be used as the source for the Lomb quotes in the article. --Richard 'Doc' Kinne 17:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

errr, NASA isn't a valid source??
I would have thought that NASA knows something about planets and space? This article is cited corectly. 203.5.217.3Zytheran

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Since the article was tagged as abandonned and it appeared as no source for the Lomb quotes were forthcoming, I went ahead and rewrote the article as now done. Meaning no disrespect at all to the original writer I felt several folks thought that the unattributed quotes were a problem and that reasonably quick action was needed to save the article from becoming immaterial. -Richard 'Doc' Kinne 21:28, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


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Talk:Virginia Bill of Rights to deny legal status to same-sex and unmarried relationships

A news report does not ask a rhetorical question of the reader, it simply reports. And it cannot make statements found in the 1st sentence of the 3rd paragraph: "Supporters [of the amendment] feel they have strengthened the family unit and thus society in general." A generality by the writer is no-no, quotes ascribed to some person are a yes-yes.

This reads like an editorial. I'm moving this to develop and will help with it. I was going to write about the topic anyway. Best intentions, Edbrown05 04:15, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Ed,

Thanks, I appreciate the help. We have discussed this much on Forums and Meetings in Virginia. Of the discussions, I am most concerned with the issued of grafting laws into the bill of rights and the fundamental implications of deluting Rights in this way. An issue that I don't feel is given appropriate attention. I hope this can be discussed somehow. Others are more concerned about the affects on unweb couples, for instance elderly couples who don't get married to avoid the "Marriage Penalty".

I'm having a lot of trouble using the tools. For instance, everytime a log in and click on something, it tells me I'm NOT logged-in. Is there some reference I can look at that would help navigate and use these tools correctly.

Thanks, Don
 * 66.82.9.74 09:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

When can/should I publish
How do I know when it's OK for me to publish this article? Also, I'm wondering what the best day to publish would be. Do more people read on the week-end or at the beginning of the week. I'm wondering if it would be better to published on Monday morning?

Don 18:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * One big point that needs cleared up is who makes the assertions in the "Stability and security of Individual Rights" section? That *still* reads like editorial content because the author makes his opinion clear. The other problem is the thing is becoming encyclopedic, I should have the gist of the story in less content than is on this talk page and if that is well enough written you delve into the gory details.  Yes, keeping within project guidelines on the gory details bit is difficult.  --Brian McNeil / talk 20:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I'll work on the intro and try to get an interview with an expert on Constitutional Law at George Mason University to fact check and flush out the last section. -- Don 10:23, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That would be an excellent bit of original reporting. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:00, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That would be an excellent bit of original reporting. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:00, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

 * To your original question, you decide when to publish and if other editors still think it needs work then they de-publish it. Sugarpine 15:07, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

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''The following was a comment by 66.82.9.88 placed mistakenly in the article itself. I have moved it below''. — Doldrums(talk) 08:23, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I think text suggesting that article 1, section 4 is a precedent for the amendment is an incorrect application
Unless I misunderstand what your trying to say, I think suggesting that section 4 is a precedent to exclude rights from specific groups that apply to others is an incorrect application of the statute. Section is basically saying that "all men are equally free" and that exclusive benefits and privileges cannot be given to a specific man or groups of men, especially based on hereditary, such as was the case for the British royal class.

So to say that section 4 is a precedent to deny status to a specific group, I think is actually getting it backwards. To exclusively deny rights to only the group of non-heterosexuals, one is necessarily giving exclusive status to heterosexuals. So the amendment is again an apparent contradiction to section 4, and unprecedented. Don

 * "My Daddy was a magistrate, so I should be a magistrate too," is congruent, or incongruent, with more modern concerns over, "My Mommy was married to my Daddy for 7-years, so since I lived with Roger for that long, I should be married too?"
 * The sooner the sour grapes taste goes away from this article, the better. -Edbrown05 08:07, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

The issue is more like, I and Jenny have adopted a child and my corporation recognizes our relationship as a domestic partnership, and provides health benefits to both Jenny and our adopted child. Why is the government interfering with the private affairs of my family and a private corporation? Why is it attempting to deny health benefits to my child, even though it is not paying for them and then denying legal rights to my partner? This is clearly government intrusion.

The big question is why was the media so negligent in providing a thorough analysis of the ramification of this amendment, prior to November 7?

Further, if the legislative branch is going to put such a fundamental referendum on the ballot then they have a responsibility to ensure that the public is properly educated on the issue, so they can intelligently vote on it. What happened instead was a slogan-based marketing campaign that was in my opinion dishonorable. The fact is that nearly no one understood what they were really voting for. Most people saw the amendment for the first time on Election Day. Not even experts at Law know what the implications will be, even after studying it.

So I hope the article is not seen as “sour grapes”, but as an attempt to provide the information that should have been provided prior to the election, post-mortem. Because this issue is not dead, the objective is to pass a similarly regressive amendments in other states and to the U.S. Bill of Rights. Don 21:37, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Well said. -Edbrown05 05:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * "Why is the government interfering with the private affairs of my family and a private corporation?" Because you are interferring with public monies. -Edbrown05 07:42, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * The social cost of uncommitted and broken relationships among adults with the responsibility of children is so enormous that nobody is stupid enough to try to put a price tag on it. Then gays swoop in and try to win the no-marriage equal-rights debate by framing it, somewhat, on status that maybe ought be accorded unwed bisexual couples. That's cheap gay shot, and only Arizona fell for it. -Edbrown05 08:05, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * What do they do in Arizona? Isn't there a bar there where a few teeth get knocked out? I'm sure the absentee ballots that were sent in there to put the measure over the top were mailed in by Don :) Edbrown05 08:23, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

In any case, there is one thing I remain encouraged by, and proud of. Two guys, with views that are obviously on opposite ends of the spectrum regarding a contentious issue, were able to collaborate, develop and publish a meaningful treatise on that subject. Thanks for you contribution. Don 14:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


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New Zealand's alcohol purchasing age not to be raised

November 9, 2006

In a conscience vote last night, Wednesday, parliament decided that the alcohol purchasing for New Zealanders will not be raised to 20 but instead will stay at the current age of 18.

The vote was 72-49 with the noes as the majority, a conscience vote is where the individual Member of Parliament (MP) votes instead of the party and their policies.

The bill was brought before Parliament with the intent of placing the drinking age back at 20 following its lowering to 18 in 1999. It was first drafted by Matt Robson of the NZ Progressive Party, and was then taken on by Martin Gallagher from the New Zealand Labour Party.

However, the Labour-led government is being attacked for interfering with the liquor purchase age bill. Before the debate on the bill, two ministers who are against raising the age, justice minister Mark Burton and associate health minister, Damien O'Conner both announced that they would fully review the sale/supply of liquor to people below the age of 18, regardless of whether the bill were passed or not. The review will most likely look at how many off-licence outlets there are and increased law enforcement of the drink age. Mr Burton said that he did not pre-empt the bill voting, he said: "It was important to ensure all options were on the table before the vote. What we are saying is you can have confidence that if the bill doesn't proceed there will be an alternative vehicle for addressing the issues immediately thereafter."

Many MPs said that it was unorthodox to intrude in such a manner in the voting process. Leader of Jim Anderton's Progressive coalition and supporter of the bill, Jim Anderton, said: "Making a last-minute plea to MPs is not to be fooled by the promise of the unnecessary review. This is the review you have when you want to give parliamentarians a soft option. We do not have that luxury. And I hear that sigh of relief in many places, 'oh gosh you've got a review so we don't have to make a hard decision'. Well this is the place for hard decisions and this is where the buck stops."

Christopher Bishop, a spokesman for the Keep it 18 campaign, said: "We welcome the Government's moves to review the supply of alcohol to minors in the likely event that the Sale of Liquor Amendment Bill is defeated today. Raising the drinking age is never going to work as a way of dealing with New Zealand's drinking culture. It is a simplistic and knee-jerk solution – a legislative sledgehammer."

Chester Burrows, National MP, said: "My experience is I've seen too many pissed young people, raped young people, assaulted young people."

Wayne Mapp, National MP, said he favours a split age, 18 and 19-year-olds are allowed to drink in pubs but not to buy alcohol at liquor stores until they are 20. "They [the two who introduced the review] should have waited till Parliament decides, rather than trying to dictate," he said.

Gordon Copeland, United Future MP, who also preferred the split age, said he had "no doubt the move would influence the way people voted. It was a most unfortunate interference."

Simon Power, National MP, said: "It [the bill] is inconsistent. It requires peculiar legal definition and will make life more difficult and harder for the police to enforce."

Ron Mark, New Zealand First MP, said: "Are we going to do something, or are we going to do nothing?" asked New Zealand First list MP Ron Mark. "We can at least let this bill go through to the next stage."

Ross Bell, spokesman for the Drug Foundation, said: "Not only is such a review too narrow, it also seemed to pre-empt the outcome of Wednesday's debate. A cynical person might think the announcement gave MPs an excuse not to support the bill. That review has already been looked at by the Law and Order Select Committee, and what is needed is a review of price and availability of alcohol."

However it has been suggested by the select committee previously researching the drinking problem in New Zealand that there is little hard evidence 18 & 19 year olds are buying alcohol for minors, with the largest problem instead being the purchasing of alcohol by parents for their children.


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Hi, where'd you hear that? -Edbrown05 04:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

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Hey, I think this gay referendum is something that is timely news even days from now. I don't know how fast you want to push. I'm suggesting that I don't want to push that fast, with the more major smoke still clearing over who won the Senate. Best regards. -Edbrown05 04:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Geez, did I say that badly, now you hate me, huh? get a thick skin. -Edbrown05 05:02, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

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Sorry for taking so long to respond to your message, but since I can't properly log-in to my account (it keeps logging me out automatically), it is really difficult to maintain my identity (Eazan).

After considering timing of publication consideration, I agree with you. I think its more important to get it right, and try to fucus the article on more general impacts.

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'Jesus Camp' shuts down

November 9, 2006

The evangelical Christian summer camp "Kids on Fire " featured in the documentary Jesus Camp will shut down for several years due to negative reactions to the film, negative e-mails, phone calls and letters. Many accuse camp leader Becky Fischer of "brainwashing" the children.

The documentary showed camp leader Becky Fischer acting as a "drill instructor" for young children preparing themselves for spiritual and political warfare. Fischer makes explicit comparisons between her camp and Islamist 'jihad training camps'. It also shows children praying before a photograph of President Bush.

The film included scenes with disgraced preacher Ted Haggard, who resigned his leadership of the National Association of Evangelicals after he was accused of having sex with a male prostitute and using methamphetamine.

Haggard has criticized the film as mocking the evangelical movement and for using his statement that "If the Evangelicals vote, they determine the election." The film makers responded that "Pastor Haggard is the only person in Jesus Camp who has a problem with how he was portrayed" and stated that they had been careful to avoid his more inflammatory and divisive comments.

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Retired pastor burns himself alive to protest spread of Islam

November 9, 2006

A 73-year old retired pastor, Reverend Roland Weisselberg, burned himself alive during Reformation Day services on Tuesday]in Erfurt, Germany. His self-immolation was apparently in protest against the spread of Islam, which he felt the Protestant church should take more seriously.

His last words were "Jesus and Oskar,", believed to a reference to Oskar Bruesewitz, a priest who burned himself alive to protest the Communist government of East Germany. He was transported to a burns unit in Halle but died en route.

Rev. Weisselberg had lived under Communism in East Germany, and had been a publisher in his former vocation.

Axel Noack, Bishop of Saxony, said that he was shocked at Rev. Weisselberg's self-immolation, stressing that Christians could not accept a "clash of cultures". He confessed that the issue of Islam had been sidelined within the Church and was only spoken about in private. There were few Muslims there with whom they could engage in dialogue, Noack said.


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Chicago activist publicly burns himself alive in protest of Iraq War

November 9, 2006

Chicago peace activist and musician Malachi Ritscher burned himself alive Friday morning (Nov. 3, 2006) on the Kennedy Expressway, apparently in protest of the Iraq war.

Police found a homemade sign near his body which said "Thou Shalt Not Kill." Before the act, he posted a suicide note on his website.


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Brad and Angelina article
The article that I already published was written by someone else. Mabie you can try to provide your article with new information? That way we don't get two articles with the same topic :) F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  17:24, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I have not deleted Brad and Angelina's bodyguards arrested after saying racial slurs to parents yet because your article is still in development. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  00:58, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
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 * No worries. But, isn't the story getting a little old? I checked Google news and all the sources are from November 19. — F e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  00:04, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
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Thanks for saving it from deletion from commons. I was wondering however if you could say what webpage/where it came from, or even what its name in commons was? thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:10, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I uploaded this image on the Wikinews server, and not the commons. I believe the image might have been deleted by now. — Nearly Headless Nick  {C} 09:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

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I noticed you added new content to the article, Saddam Hussein sentenced to death for Dujail killings, which is more than 24 hours old. Thanks for taking an active role in improving the content on this site. People like you who take an active role make Wikinews better for all of us — readers and writers alike. However, in the future you may want to consider creating a new, separate story as an update to the older published story instead of just adding content to an already published, out of date article. That way your work will be seen by more people since readers tend not to revisit old news articles looking for updates.

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Microsoft announces that new Vista OS on schedule

November 9, 2006

Microsoft Corporation announced on Wednesday it has finished all work on its long-delayed Windows Vista operating system (OS) and plans to release it to consumers January 30 2007. The announcement means Microsoft is on track to meet its revised release schedule.

Jim Allchin, co-president of the Microsoft division that includes Windows, said that Windows Vista's code was released to begin manufacturing copies early on Wednesday.

"This is a good day," Allchin declared.

Microsoft previously announced that it would release Windows Vista to large business clients at an event at the NASDAQ Stock Market on November 30 2006, and make it available to consumers sometime in January 2007.

The release will be the first major upgrade in more than five years to the OS of the company that powers most of the world's PCs. Vista claims to have improved graphics, more effective tools for finding documents, pictures and other items on PCs, and a new Internet browser.

Vista's release has been victim to a series of delays, the most recent delay was blamed in part on efforts to improve security of the OS.

In its quest to get Vista up and running, Microsoft also has had to scrap some of its original goals, including getting rid of a more sophisticated method for sorting and organizing information. Analysts have said that scaling back the system could hurt the company if people don't see enough of a reason to upgrade.

The most recent delays also forced Microsoft to miss the holiday season, possibly dealing a blow to computer makers and retailers who would have been hoping for the new OS to boost holiday gift sales.

Microsoft and other computer manufacturers are offering holiday shoppers coupons good for a free or discounted Vista upgrade.

It's not clear how quickly big businesses will start using Vista. It can often take months if not years for companies to test a new operating system and make sure it will work well with the other programs they rely on.

Allchin said Microsoft is providing tools that allow companies to test for compatibility problems more quickly than with past Windows releases. He also said he hopes the security improvements would drive companies to upgrade faster.

Microsoft estimates that the new OS could set off a hike of 10% or more in Windows software sales in the financial year to June 30, with most of the increase coming in the second half of the year.

Microsoft shares rose 3 cents (from US$ 28.95) to close at US$28.98 Wednesday on the NASDAQ.


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Ed Bradley of 60 Minutes dies at 65

November 9, 2006

The 60 Minutes correspondent Ed Bradley has died today at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York at the age of 65 after a struggle with leukemia.

"It's an incredibly sad day for everyone at CBS News. Ed was a phenomenal reporter and a great man," Senior Broadcast Producer Bill Owens told CBSNews. "Never have the words, 'he will be missed' meant more."

Born and raised in Philadelphia, Bradley was diagnosed with leukemia two years ago. Bradley's condition worsened two weeks ago and he contracted pneumonia and succumbed to the disease.

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Allen Concedes in Virginia, giving Democrats control of Senate

November 9, 2006

Sen. George Allen (R-VA) today conceded the senatorial race to Democrat James Webb, confirming that there would be a Democratic majority in the Senate and the House for the first time in over a decade.

With this win, the Democrats have now gained more seats in Congress than the Republicans did in the 1994 'Republican Revolution' that first brought Conservatives to control of the House and the Senate.

Webb won the Virginia seat by 7200 votes out of 2.37 million, as reported by the Washington Post. When Allen did not request a recount, that ensured a Democratic majority in the Senate.

Rumor said that Allen had hoped to use his Senate seat as a springboard to a run for the Presidency; and more rumors suggested that if Vice President Dick Cheney were forced to resign ("due to ill health") following investigations of laws broken by Bush and Cheney, that Allen had hoped to be appointed in Cheney's stead. With the loss of the Senate seat, Allen's visions of a Presidential run have become impossible.

Webb, who was a decorated Vietnam veteran and an early opponent of the war in Iraq, is quoted (by atrios at http://atrios.blogspot.com/) as saying that he was particularly concerned with issues of economic fairness and social justice:

"[It was reported] that I came to the Democratic party purely on issues regarding the Iraq war. Nothing could be further from the truth.

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Royal Canadian Legion upset over white poppies

November 9, 2006

The Royal Canadian Legion are upset over the distribution of white poppies at a store in Edmonton, Alberta. Veterans in Canada sell red poppies to remember the soldiers that fought in War which is now called Remembrance Day.

Michael Kalmanovitch, owner of The Earth's General Store, who has been selling white poppies for the past three years, says the white poppies symbolize the hope for peace.

A veteran at the Royal Canadian Legion says that white poppies are an insult and may infringe on the legion's trademark.

"If he, Kalmanovitch [the owner] doesn't, then we will proceed with further legal action," said Steven Clark, Ottawa-based remembrance co-ordinator who oversees the poppy trademark for the Legion.

A British organization called the Peace Pledge Union in London, England started the distribution of white poppies in 1993, and over the years the idea has been sold to Canada. The white poppy is a symbol of opposition to the war and they also pay tribute to the pain of those who have lost someone in war.

Mr. Kalmanovitch says that he won't cease white poppy sales until he's officially been notified by the Peace Pledge Union, a British organization that took over from the Women's Co-Operative Guild to distribute the white poppies worldwide.

Marya Nyland, who belongs to Women in Black, an international peace organization, which has been distributing the white poppies across Canada for the last 11 years, said, "Peace is free. You never buy peace."

"It's offensive and it's disturbing that this white poppy would appear at this time of year," he said. "To me, the white poppy is an insult to the veterans. The Women in Black organization, I think, are piggybacking on the sacred time of the year," said Harvey Shevalier, president of the Legion's Alberta-Northwest Territories Command. Peace activists are advised to focus their efforts on September 21, UN-sanctioned International Day of Peace. However, white poppies would still infringe on the Legion's trademark even if they change the date to Sept. 21.

The poppies are CAN$2 apiece and sell quickly. Two-hundred of them sold on Monday and the store has ordered more, according to Mr. Kalmanovitch, the store owner.

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Jcanepa 23:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC) How can this be "on time"? It was originally schedules to ship in late 2003!


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New stadium in Auckland for 2011 rugby world cup preferred by NZ government

November 10, 2006

The New Zealand government has said that it prefers building a new stadium at Auckland's waterfront to host the grand final of the 2011 rugby world cup, instead of upgrading Auckland's current stadium, Eden Park.

The preference was made public by the Honourable Trevor Mallard who is the minister for the rugby world cup that will be hosted in New Zealand in 2011.

The new stadium hasn't yet been confirmed and is awaiting November 24, which is the date when the Auckland council will give the government their views on the two options available to them; waterfront or upgrade.

According to Mr Mallard the waterfront will cost altogether around NZ$497 million compared to the cost of an upgrade of Eden Park of $385 million. However that pricing is only based on concept drawings at this point in time. The government will provide half of the funding for the waterfront stadium but they will only provide funding for the Eden Park upgrade if it was considered to be for regional purposes and not a national stadium.

Mr Mallard said: "The government has decided that a waterfront location is the option that can most meaningfully contribute to the Government's vision for Auckland as a truly world-class, international city. This has been a finely balanced call with little difference between the two options in terms of cost and construction timelines. Advice from the experts shows that both can be delivered on time."

The greatest concern facing the government is if they will be able to build the new stadium in time but construction will being in December 2007 to be finished by 2010, and also investigators said that it would be possible. "We have had advice from Australasia's leading stadium designers, engineers, architects and construction experts. There is a unanimous view that the waterfront stadium is a challenge, but eminently achievable," Mr Mallard said.

"In making its decision, the government believes that a sports stadium has the ability to contribute to the identity of Auckland and New Zealand. A national stadium will be as much a focal point of Auckland's landscape as Rangitoto or the Sky Tower. We also believe the construction of an iconic facility such as this will help drive Auckland's aspirations for the development of the waterfront and CBD."

Referring to the upgrade of Eden Park, Mr Mallard said: "One of the greatest concerns is that its application for consents has unacceptable uncertainty as to the timing and outcome of the consents within the construction time available. There is also risk around the lack of flexibility in a residential area around construction times, should delays or problems with construction arise."

The government will also need to pass a special bill that will enable them to build the required options because of consent issues.

The government had also considered these following options: Eden Park (various options), CBD waterfront (various options), North Harbour Stadium, Manukau Harbour (adjoining Westfield station), The former Carlaw Park, Mt Smart Stadium, Avondale Racecourse, The Auckland Domain and Jade Stadium.


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U.S. Senate majority goes to Democrats

November 10, 2006

, incumbent Republican Senator from Virginia, conceded the state's mid-term election to Democratic challenger on Thursday. Democrats have now gained the six seats needed by the party to hold majority control of the Senate.

"The people of Virginia have spoken, they have spoken in a closely divided voice. We have two 49ers," Allen said during the afternoon press conference in. Allen garnered 49.25% of the vote, compared to the 49.55% who supported Webb. "I do not wish to cause more rancor by protracted litigation that would not, in my opinion, alter the results."

The concession by Allen in traditionally Republican Virginia follows what were once prospects for an Allen 2008 presidential bid. An easy Allen re-election campaign to the Senate was expected, but what came was the Democrats ability to frame the election as a national referendum on the war in Iraq. Democrats may have succeeded nationally to draw on the issue of Iraq, but local politics were very much in play in Northern Virginia.

According to the Virginia Pilot, "Unofficial returns gave Democratic nominee Webb a 120,000-vote advantage over Allen in Northern Virginia's eight localities. But Webb trailed badly across most of the rest of the state and would have decisively lost the election without his Northern Virginia support." The margin by which Webb won was 9,000 votes.

Allen's formulaic stance against tax increases, whether for highway taxes to improve congested northern highway and commuter corridors, or outright fiscal conservativism of all taxes in the face of a burgeoning national deficit, worked against him.

The state constitutional amendment banning recognition of same-sex marriage supported by Allen, but opposed by Webb and Governor, and most Northern Virginians, worked against Allen in the election.

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attribute the explanations in the last two paragraphs? — Doldrums(talk) 07:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I live there. -Edbrown05 07:18, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * that doesn't necessarility make ur explanations correct or uncontested :) — Doldrums(talk) 07:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * all those exit-polls are one way to check such explanations. — Doldrums(talk) 07:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * took a chance, u called me :) don't know what to make of your exit poll thing -Edbrown05 07:29, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * "calling" is easy. 's why i do it so much. :)
 * cnn exit poll surbey. strangely enough, doesn't appear to have anything about the gay marriage amendment.
 * an explanation must meet the standards, significant number of people thought an issue was important, more people favored one candidate's view on issue over the other's.
 * for eg., more than half voted in the election to support or oppose bush. and disapproval of bush/his handling of war is consistently higher than approval. (this is a hypothetical example. am not suggesting this "explanation" or claiming this is the only explanation)
 * rather than say this is the explanation, we say these are the numbers. we say, more people voted with iraq in mind and most didn't like what's happening there. this more verifiable than Webb won 'coz ...". and causality is hard to establish. — Doldrums(talk) 07:52, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * do Doldrums, see the Virginia Pilot source. -Edbrown05 07:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Note to self. read sources. occasionally. — Doldrums(talk) 07:52, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

All very Virginia-centric. Surely some volunteer pundit can stump a national victory speech? 74.134.236.69 08:40, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

well, the whole senate was dependent on the virginia election.

democrats ftw 128.62.94.218 17:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

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Inventor prize 2006 goes to Wikipedia founder Jimbo Wales

November 9, 2006

According to Wikinews' German language version, Jimmy Wales, founder of the Wikimedia Foundation, is the winner of this year's Inventor prize.

The award is given out on Inventor's Day, which Germany celebrates on November 9. Wales' novel, open approach to Wikipedia was cited as the reason for giving the award. A ceremony to hand over the award will be arranged for the next time Wales visits Germany.


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User talk:Soumya04

Welcome
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Opposition to John Bolton's appointment to the UN grows

November 10, 2006

The confirmation of John Bolton as the US Permanent Representative to the United Nations is in doubt as Republican Senator Lincoln Chafee joins Democrats in opposing his nomination.

John Bolton was first nominated to the position by President Bush in March 2005, but his appointment was opposed at that time when the Democrats on the Senate appointments committee, along with Republican Senator George Voinovich. He was then appointed by the President during congressional recess in August. This recess appointment must now be confirmed by the Senate.

Bolton's previous confirmation stalled after the Senate committee's demands for information about Bolton's activities while he was in the State Department were rejected by the administration. In addition, there were concerns about whether or not he had exaggerated reports about Syria's weaponry and doubts about the suitability of his temperament as an Ambassador for the United States.

While the Senate is in recess, the President can make appointments which have to be ratified subsequently. President Bush appointed John Bolton as Permanent Representative to the UN on August 1, the first day of the recess, asserting that the post was too important to be left vacant at a time when the country was at war and there was a vital debate about the reform of the UN.

Democratic Senator Edward Kennedy called the appointment "an abuse of power". The appointment is due to be confirmed before January 2007 after which it lapses.

Dr. John Bolton, a prominent neoconservative and sometime aide to James Baker, has been highly critical of the UN and its role in international affairs. His opinions were shared by other Republicans including Sen. Norm Coleman who is reported as saying that the UN was "mismanaged and possibly corrupt". He was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize in February this year by Per Ahjmark, former deputy prime minister of Sweden.

President Bush is reported as saying that he wants Bolton's appointment confirmed before January when the Democrats take power. The present constitution of the Senate Committee is 10 Republicans and 8 Democrats and Republican Sen. George Voinovich had come to support Bolton's appointment. However, the move by Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee, on the grounds that, at the recent elections, the people had spoken out against US foreign policy, could result in a hung vote. That would result in John Bolton being removed from his position as US Ambassador to the UN.


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CNN accused of covering up transcript of Bill Maher outing Ken Mehlman

November 15, 2006

Last Thursday, CNN edited out portions of Larry King's "live" interview with Bill Maher for the west coast showing, and removed the same portions from the online transcript.

The deleted portions consisted of Bill Maher saying that Republican National Committee chair Ken Mehlman was gay.

Here is the deleted portion of the transcript:

 * Larry King: You will name them?
 * Bill Maher: Well, I wouldn't be the first. I'd get sued if I was the first. Ken Mehlman. Ok, there's one I think people have talked about. I don't think he's denied it when he's been, people have suggested, he doesn't say...
 * Larry King: I never heard that. I'm walking around in a fog. I never...Ken Mehlman? I never heard that. But the question is...
 * Bill Maher: Maybe you don't go to the same bathhouse I do, Larry.

Ken Mehlman, currently the chair of the National Republican Committee, has been known to avoid questions about his sexuality, and supports a constitutional ban on same sex marriage.


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Might Bill Mahar be Bill Maher? Miegiel 15:40, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed it is. Fixed. Rob T Firefly 16:53, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

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Besides any argument about NPOV, the article title as it is just seems unprofessional; Are quotes really needed around "covers up"? Cacophony 15:09, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

 * if anything, quotes are needed around the "outing". Maher has not "outed", till wikinews can confirm that Mehlamn is indeed gay. — Doldrums(talk) 15:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

 * That seems sensible, but even the word "outing" is rather ambiguous, and I can't seem to think of a title that would reflect the situation without being overly awkward.
 * Now that I think about it, shouldn't the article be on Maher's comments, with a side note on CNN's actions, rather than vice versa? Cacophony 15:23, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I would think it's the other way around, with the actual story being CNN's apparent coverup. Just "outing" someone really isn't news these days.  True or not, anyone can "out" anyone, and it's just gossip.  It's CNN's actions which make this interesting. Rob T Firefly 14:35, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I thought the CNN retration was more interesting, Maher's been saying he was gay for a while now, as have other people. He always just avoids teh question whenver he is asked. Outing is infact the verb which describes what Maher did and doesn't need quotes. Yes, outing implies some evidence, but it doesn't imply absolute knowedge. Nyarlathotep 14:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

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Italic formatting cannot be nested over list items..
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In the quoted portion of the transcript, an attempt is made to place italics, over 2 list items.. This is bad HTML, Each list item should be formatted as italic individually. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:28, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
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News?
This needs quite a bit of NPOV work. As is it reads like an ad or a press release. Rob T Firefly 16:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Press release? I searched on Google and found no press release from Walmart. F  e  llow  Wiki  News   (W)  19:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)


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Jon S. von Tetzchner, CEO for Opera speaks against DotMobi

November 10, 2006

Opera CEO Jon S. von Tetzchner has spoken against the creation of .mobi, a domain extension for mobile devices saying that it is a "total waste of time" and "completely unnecessary." He continued saying "There should be one Internet... What if you're using another device? Should we have .gameconsole? .car? .fridge? .plane? We don't need .mobi at all." and "There are capabilities for sites to query the browser to figure out exactly what you're using. That's a much more elegant solution than having the user choose which site to go to." Opera and Sun are actually developing a browser for refrigerators.

Microsoft, Google, and Nokia are some of the supporters of .mobi.


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User talk:Eazan

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I really ought to thank you,
btw, i voted against. Best regards. -Edbrown05 10:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

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Welcome to this talk page. --Sm8900 19:02, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

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Canadian PM to amend Criminal Code, drugged drivers to be charged

November 10, 2006

Stephen Harper, along with MADD Canada, has proposed to amend the Criminal Code to make driving while under the influence of drugs as unacceptable as drunk driving.

Harper was at a news conference in Kitchener today during the 19th annual Project Red Ribbon campaign, sponsored by Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD).

"Just as a drunk driver does, a drug-impaired driver presents a danger to himself and others," Harper said. "We can act to prevent more such incidents from occurring."

The PM also spoke of his personal connection to Tory Senator Marjorie LeBreton, who lost her daughter and grandson to an impaired driver 10 years ago. The family of David Ryder, one of five teens who were killed near Ottawa in a multi-car crash caused by a driver high on marijuana in 1999, accompanied Harper at the conference today.

Police will be able to determine what drug a driver may have consumed. When police find a drugged driver, they will go to a police station and bring the driver to a specially trained police officer that can determine what drugs they were on.

According to MADD, the problem has been eliminated in the United States with the introduction of a series of tests that looks for families of drugs.

Harper with MADD Canada tied a red ribbon on the aerial of a vehicle as part of MADD's annual campaign targeting impaired driving during the holiday season. The bill will be proposed next week in the House of Commons.


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Study tests the use of Google as an aid for medical diagnoses

November 10, 2006 In an internet-based study published today on the website of the British Medical Journal, Australian investigators tested how well Googling could help to establish a difficult diagnosis. The search results met against their criteria in 15 out of 26 cases.

Previous anecdotes of the use of Google in reaching a difficult diagnosis are presented in the paper. In a case described in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM), a physician diagnosed IPEX syndrome after submitting the typical diagnostic clues to the search engine. A patient's father replied to doctor's saying that his son had acute subclavian vein thrombosis of unknown origin: "But of course he has Paget-von Schrötter syndrome."

Hangwi Tang and Jennifer Hwee Kwoon Ng from the Princess Alexandra Hospital in Brisbane selected clinical cases from the NEJM blind to the correct diagnosis. They selected 3 to 5 rather specific features, searched Google, and selected the 3 disorders from the results that seemed to fit the case best. If one of those was right, Google was said to be "right".

The scientists admit that an internet search probably works better with specific symptoms rather than with phrases such as "fever ill pain". Also, the percentage may depend on the operating physician's knowledge base, and the test was not double-blind.

Experts commented that the internet is not a replacement for doctors, but should be seen as a way of supporting doctors and patients. A spokeswoman for the Patient Association added that "a lot of sites are not credible. There are lots of good sites out there, but we also know that there are many that are not credible."


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MI5 Chief: surprised and alarmed by speed of radicalisation of Muslims in UK

November 10, 2006 Speaking about the "terrorist threat" in Britain, Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller, Director-General of the British Security Service MI5, claimed that she was alarmed by the "scale and speed" with which Muslims, even those still at school, are being radicalised.

She told the Mile End Group run by Professor Peter Hennessy, Queen Mary College, that the view of history which prompted feelings of grievance and injustice was shared, not only by extremists, but by many others in the country. For example, opinion polls suggest that over 100,000 people think that the July 7, 2005 attacks in London were justified. (This inference from the data is contested by The 1990 Trust)

She also claimed that MI5 is aware of some 200 groupings, comprising about 1600 individuals, including many teenagers, who are actively planning suicide attacks and the use of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons; these include "resilient networks, some directed from Al-Qaida in Pakistan, some more loosely inspired by it".

Tony Blair supported Dame Eliza's statement, but said "This is a threat that has grown up over a generation."

Concurrently, the Foreign Secretary, Margaret Beckett, in a speech to theRoyal United Services Institute think tank, was calling on the Muslim community to "stand up and be counted" in the fight against extremism. She said that "Muslim communities have a special ability to make a difference in the struggle against extremism."


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Several significant points here-

The scale and speed of growth in number of radical Muslims, particularly youth.

The Head of MI5's view that 'history' (Afghanistan/Iraq) has a role in promoting radicalisation.

(Now, on BBC News 10.15 pm Nov. 10, it is reported that the speech by Dame Eliza was 'cleared' with Downing Street before being delivered).

Blair's insistence that this has been going on for a long time - i.e. before the wars in which he played an important role

Beckett's appeal to the Muslim community - which when made by Reid provoked outrage in many quarters (cannot find a Wikinews report on that) as it was seen as a 'with us or against us' kind of threat to Muslim communities. The Reid suggestion was interpreted as inviting Muslims to 'spy' on their children.

All very interesting.. Fentonrobb 22:28, 10 November 2006 (UTC)


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