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User talk:ThomasSayce

Welcome
Thanks for experimenting with Wikinews. Your test worked, and has now been reverted or removed. Please use Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles may disrupt the site's working and will be reverted quickly. , welcome to Wikinews! Please refrain from using content pages for testing. Here are a few good links for newcomers on how to edit Wikinews:

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Wikinews:Arbitration Committee/2009 elections

The terms of all Arbitration Committee members have now expired and as such, an election for the committee's 6 members is necessary. Any member of the English Wikinews community can be elected to the Committee for a 1 year term. In the course of this election, the community's consensus will be gathered in order to find people to fill these roles.

Current arbitrators who remain active in this community (made 10 or more edits in 90 days) have automatically been nominated for re-election. These are, and. Other members or current arbitrators may nominate themselves, or be nominated by another member and accept the nomination, and optionally make a statement.

The election will be administered by:

The deadline for nominations is Sunday, August 9, 2009 at 23:59 UTC. Elections will commence on Monday, August 10, 2009 and close on Monday, August 17, 2009 at 23:59 UTC. The new Committee will be appointed on Tuesday, August 18, 2009. Election information is below.

Election information

 * The results will become valid once they have been confirmed by and.

Suffrage

 * You must have at least 250 edits in the Main namespace before July 1, 2009 at 00:00 (UTC) in order to vote.
 * Your first edit must have been made before June 1, 2009 at 00:00 (UTC) in order to vote.
 * All Wikimedia Foundation board members, full-time staff, and paid developers will be eligible to vote, provided they have edited a Wikimedia project before June 1, 2009 in that capacity.
 * Administrators on the Wikinews project, even if they don't meet the requirements above, are still eligible to vote.

How to vote

 * All those eligible to vote per the above suffrage can indicate their vote for a candidate through putting the support template in the 'discussion' section.
 * Comments about the candidate can also be made in the 'discussion' section

Automatic renomination. Computerjoe 's talk 12:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Statement
I am happy to stand again, I just hope things continue as they have and the ArbCom isn't needed. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

 * I'm afraid I think that the concerns I raised last year remain relevant. Despite Brian's long history of valuable contributions, it remains the case that Brian has an interesting way of dealing with conflicts. To quote from some of what I said previously, "For example, dismissing concerns from respected users as trolling and giving real trolls the reaction they desire with nonsense blocks of one minute duration. Him regularly resorting to profanities also leaves me with doubts about his ability to stay calm in difficult situations." He continues with this, in keeping with his long history. Even back in 2006 he was getting blocked for inappropriate edit summaries and "great incivility". Also, as I said, "He also seems to view any questioning of his actions has some kind of personal attack." An example of this could be his insistence on describing my simple query about a instance where he used checkuser as "Accusations of abuse". It worries me that popularity is perhaps being put before suitability in deciding whether Brian is appropriate for this role. Brian might be a very valuable contributor, but let's not pretend he is perfect in every respect. No one is. Adambro (talk) 20:56, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

 * To respond to this, I am going to admit that Brian has a certain cavalier attitude (most of us do, but no-one notices because Brian outdoes us all combined). Nonetheless, I do value his decision making, which is generally very sound even if he has a tendancy to be a little... unorthodox. My view is that Brian would treat an ArbCom case with the seriousness it entails, and produce a properly considered opinion. When he is trying to explain various concepts he tends to do a good job of it, and this insight is of a kind that I think would be valuable on ArbCom. The concerns are valid, but after weighing things up I still feel his opinions tend to be well thought-out and that his benefits outweigh his faults as an ArbCom member. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:11, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't have to read beyond the first sentence to know the criticism was from Adambro, it certainly has some merit, but it would be more credible to be saying I shouldn't be on the ArbCom because something couldn't get to that dispute level without me having nailed someone to the ground and taken a stand on an issue. That would be a better reason not to vote for me than the reasons Adambro has outlined. The probability of people becoming embroiled in an issue before it is brought to ArbCom has had an influence on how I have voted - depending how you look at things that might be a reason not to vote for me.
 * Some of Adambro's criticism is, I feel, based on a young man's efforts to be earnest. The 'job' - furthering the wiki - is serious, earnest efforts towards that are to be admired and something that garners respect. The old adage is, "Take the job seriously, but never take yourself seriously". I'm 40, but I feel no different from when I was 14 and electrocuted a few school bullies for a laugh. I was on the Internet before the September that never ended, so I've seen what works and what doesn't. I can recognise the clue-resistant, and I've read my Marx and my Machiavelli. I know what I'm doing, and I refuse to waste weeks beating someone with scented bootlaces when they just need told they're a clueless idiot. --Brian McNeil / talk 01:20, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Although I am not eligible to vote, I support this nomination. – Juliancolton  | Talk 00:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * 1) confirm worthy auto-nom. --SVTCobra 00:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:36, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) --  Sken   my talk 18:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) No objections. --Killing Vector (talk) 15:21, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 5)  Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:32, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Who doesn't love Brianmc?
 * You really do have to love him ^_^ Keep up the good work --James Pain (talk) 22:42, 13 August 2009 (UTC) Vote withdrawn, see talk page. --James Pain (talk) 22:40, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) —Calebrw (talk) 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) --Jcart1534 (talk) 03:18, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) strongly supported Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 22:20, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Van der Hoorn (talk) 00:02, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) -- Shyam  ( T / C ) 18:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Automatic renomination. Computerjoe 's talk 12:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Statement
I would be honored to continue serving on the Arbitration Committee. Wikinews is a wonderful project and I enjoy contributing to it and representing its values in this capacity. In the last year I helped to push through changes to increase visibility of Wikinews articles at the Current events portal on the English Wikipedia, which is one click away from the Main Page. This could not have happened without the positive changes to our project's article-reviewing system. I am pleased with the way the article-writing process has evolved over the last year. Cirt (talk) 21:18, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Although I am not eligible to vote, I support this nomination. – Juliancolton  | Talk 00:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * 1) confirm worthy auto-nom. --SVTCobra 00:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:36, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Tempodivalse  [talk]  20:09, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) No objections. --Killing Vector (talk) 15:22, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Adambro (talk) 16:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 6)  Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:31, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) Smells like teen spirit -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 17:49, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) —Calebrw (talk) 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 02:24, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) --Jcart1534 (talk) 03:18, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 22:20, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) Van der Hoorn (talk) 00:04, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 13) -- Shyam  ( T / C ) 18:34, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Automatic renomination. Computerjoe 's talk 12:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Statement
I have been a Wikinewsie for over four years and an arbcom member for a long time. I would be glad to continue on arbcom if the community wants me too :). I do not think we will have any need for arbcom in the near future, but if we ever do need it again, it is best to have it.

Questions

 * You don't appear to have been very active in the last several months. If, in the unlikely event that a long, complex arbitration case comes up, will you be able to devote enough time to it? Tempodivalse [talk]  01:26, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. I started work on an MA last year and have been very busy planning and conducting my research. I recently completed the bulk of my research, so I should be reasonable active after I get back from Wikimania. --Cspurrier (talk) 01:36, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * 1) confirm worthy auto-nom. --SVTCobra 00:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) --  Sken   my talk 18:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) No objections. --Killing Vector (talk) 15:22, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Adambro (talk) 16:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Tempodivalse  [talk]  16:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) Cirt (talk) 23:48, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) —Calebrw (talk) 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) --Jcart1534 (talk) 03:18, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) Without questionBrian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 22:20, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) Van der Hoorn (talk) 00:05, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) -- Shyam  ( T / C ) 18:35, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I am renominating myself as I still feel I would be able to serve effectively should the ArbCom ever be called upon! While my activity has dropped somewhat since my original appointment, I do not feel that this would impact upon my work should I be re-elected. -- Sken   my talk 14:13, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Statement
As a long time member of the Wikinews community, Administrator, Bureaucrat, Accredited Reporter, Reviewer, CheckUser, and IRC operator, I feel that, although my activity has decreased somewhat over the past few months, I still maintain a good overall view of the community and state of the site. I beleive I would serve well as a member of ArbCom because of this well-rounded view of the community. I also believe I am able to maintain a cool head and judge based on the facts, not on my personal feelings - a quality that I feel is critical to the operation of an ArbCom. -- Sken   my talk 21:14, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Questions

 * You don't appear to have been very active in the last several months. If, in the unlikely event that a long, complex arbitration case comes up, will you be able to devote enough time to it? Tempodivalse [talk]  01:26, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. While my general activity has decreased, I am more than ever involved in the backend of Wikimedia as Volunteers Director of Wikimedia UK. I still devote a significant portion of my time to Wikimedia, and some of this could certainly go to Wikinews should a case come up. -- Sken   my talk 18:24, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * 1) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:34, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Adambro (talk) 16:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) We need a soon-to-be-policeman. ;-) --Brian McNeil / talk 17:29, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) —Calebrw (talk) 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Strong SupportBrian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 22:20, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Nominating myself Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:51, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Statement
I've been around a couple of years now and know my way round WN like the back of my hand. There is no way I'm leaving, either! I like to keep away from abvious disputes although if I do get involved I am always looking to find some common ground and reach an agreement between everyone. A good example of this would be this article where the DR resulted in much rabble from both sides of more or less the same thing; the main problem was understanding each other. At the end of the day, disputes like that which escalate further into huge messes are what ArbCom is for and are what I can deal with. Although I don't always edit I log into Wikinews almost every day and always check the water cooler and recent changes to keep abreast of life on the wiki. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:51, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * 1) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:36, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) --  Sken   my talk 18:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) No objections. --Killing Vector (talk) 15:22, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Adambro (talk) 16:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Very worthy and, in my opinion, perfect for ArbCom --James Pain (talk) 22:48, 13 August 2009 (UTC) Vote withdrawn, see talk page. --James Pain (talk) 22:40, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Cirt (talk) 23:49, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Tempodivalse  [talk]  00:14, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) —Calebrw (talk) 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) --Jcart1534 (talk) 03:18, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 22:20, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Van der Hoorn (talk) 00:02, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) -- Shyam  ( T / C ) 18:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Nearly automatic renomination. Brian is one of our Bureaucrats and narrowly missed the 90 day activity requirement. Do you accept, Brian? --SVTCobra 22:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Statement
Thanks SVT for the nom. I have being around wikinews for nearly 4 years now (gosh time flies!) I am not as active as I once was; I blame that on uni life. However, I do check in on wikinews most days, and I am active in answering Wikinews OTRS emails. I am easily contacted and have served on the arbcom since Jan 2007. Like Brianmc, I just hope things continue as they have and the ArbCom is not needed Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 23:50, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Although I am not eligible to vote, I support this nomination. – Juliancolton  | Talk 00:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * 1) Brian has my full trust. --SVTCobra 00:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) --  Sken   my talk 18:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) No objections. --Killing Vector (talk) 15:22, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Adambro (talk) 16:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Cirt (talk) 23:49, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) —Calebrw (talk) 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) Van der Hoorn (talk) 00:03, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Self-nomination. --SVTCobra 22:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Statement
I have been with Wikinews for 3 years now and an administrator for over 2 years. I am almost always around, even when I am too busy to write. I like to think that I can fairly evaluate any dispute. I have run for ArbCom before and narrowly missed the cut. --SVTCobra 22:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Although I am not eligible to vote, I support this nomination. – Juliancolton  | Talk 00:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * 1) --  Sken   my talk 18:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) No objections. --Killing Vector (talk) 15:26, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Adambro (talk) 16:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 4)  —Calebrw (talk) 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know how that neutral slipped in, but I meant support. —Calebrw (talk) 18:54, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 02:20, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) --Jcart1534 (talk) 03:18, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 22:20, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Van der Hoorn (talk) 00:04, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Self-nom. Tempodivalse [talk]  23:53, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Statement
I'd like to put myself up for arbcom. I like to think that during my time here, I've generally demonstrated good judgment and being able to keep cool in disputes, two traits which I think are necessary for an arbcom member to have. I don't expect that the committee will be used anytime in the near future, but it is always a good thing to have some place to go when all other methods of dispute resolution fail.

For the most part, I'm quite active here, usually logging in at least a few times a day, so I keep on top of community discussions and should be quickly available to hear a case.

Thank you for your time, Tempodivalse [talk]  23:53, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Questions

 * You've only been an admin on WN for a few months...what other experience do you bring that makes you ready for ArbCom at this time? --Killing Vector (talk) 15:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Aside from being a bureaucrat here, I'm also a 'crat at the Simple English Wikiquote, am a rollbacker at numerous other projects, and have been actively involved with WMF projects for over a year now. I know that I haven't been at Wikinews as long as the other candidates, but I don't think that too much weight should be given to that, as some of the candidates have been inactive for long stretches of time, while I've logged in and edited Wikinews just about every day since signing up last November, so for all practical purposes I've participated in Wikinews activities almost, if not as much, as the others. I believe I have the necessary experience to serve on the ArbCom. Tempodivalse [talk]  16:11, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Although I am not eligible to vote, I support this nomination. – Juliancolton  | Talk 00:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * 1) Mainly on the back of the fact that you appear very good at interacting with other users, which makes me support you despite being a relative newcomer  Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:31, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) on the basis the user is rarely drawn into disputes and likely to be available to serve in ArbCom deliberations. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:30, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Cirt (talk) 23:50, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) —Calebrw (talk) 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) --Killing Vector (talk) 20:19, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Blood Red Sandman sums it up nicely. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 02:16, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) --Jcart1534 (talk) 03:18, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 22:20, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) -- Shyam  ( T / C ) 18:32, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Run-off election
A tie has occured between and ; both users received 8 supports from eligible users. As such, a run-off election will occur between the two users.

'''Users, who are eligible and who had not voted for either candidate in the original election, are encouraged to vote below. This run-off election will close at 23:59 UTC on Friday, August 21 2009.''' Computerjoe 's talk 20:45, 18 August 2009 (UTC), with the support of Tristan Thomas.

run-off
Original nomination.
 * 1)  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 00:13, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  Durova (talk) 13:46, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3)   Shyam  ( T / C ) 15:02, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

run-off
Original nomination.

 * 1) This is a tough choice, I'd vote for both candidates if I could and I've nothing against Brian. However, I feel that it's better for the Arbcom to consist of more active users. Tempodivalse  [talk]  21:26, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) for the same reasons Tempodivalse said. Although I suppose that makes me a bit of a hypocrite... --Thunderhead 01:16, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Results
I declare, , , , , and to be Arbitrators until July 31, 2010. Waiting for User:Tristan Thomas to second. Computerjoe 's talk 00:29, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Seconded. Would like to say thank you to Joe for doing pretty much the whole thing by himself!  Well done.  Good luck everybody; hopefully you won't be needed.     Tris   10:10, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


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User talk:Restivjm

3PD Last Mile Delivery and Logistics Solutions.
Hi, please do not place any kind of on our website - it will be  so no one will see it. If you do want to contribute to Wikinews, see the introduction.--Cspurrier (talk) 15:08, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

title: User talk:Restivjm


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Vestas delays closure of Newport plant

July 31, 2009

Vestas Wind Systems, whose closing wind turbine blade manufacturing centre in Newport, Isle of Wight, England remains the site of a occupation now in its 11th day, has suddenly announced that the consultation period preceding the closure of the plant has been extended, and that the plant will remain open until mid-August.

The announcement, which was reported not by Vestas but by the RMT, was described by RMT General Secretary Bob Crow as "another significant milestone in the fight to save the factory and 625 skilled manufacturing jobs in green energy." The plant had been due to close today.

News of the delay comes hours after confused reports that Vestas was withholding redundancy payment for at least 525 of the workers whose jobs were lost. According to a report by the local newspaper the Isle of Wight County Press, cheques which employees had been expecting today did not arrive; instead, workers who contacted Vestas management were told they would not receive payment until an interview process had been completed, and that if they began new jobs before the interview process was over they would not receive their money. However, according to Ventnorblog, a local Isle of Wight blog which has been following the Vestas closure closely, the layoff process was being delayed because a majority of the Vestas employees were refusing to agree to the management's redundancy plan.

The delay of the closure allows more time for the negotiation of potential solutions for the Newport plant to remain open. The Vestas occupiers and labour groups continue to favour nationalisation of the plant, with Socialist Party spokesman Nick Chaffey saying: The courageous stand of the Vestas occupation and the huge support that stands alongside it from Vestas workers and beyond has rocked management and the government. With the vital support of the RMT and wider support from the trade union movement including PCS, POA and FBU, the workers' demand for nationalisation is the only way to resolve this crisis. In addition to the Vestas occupiers' proposal that the factory be nationalised, Caroline Lucas, the MEP for South East England and a member of the Green Party, has proposed that Vestas employees should form a workers' co-operative with government aid in order to keep the plant running. The Tory-dominated Isle of Wight Council has unanimously endorsed a resolution saying that the plant should stay open, and has called for new investors to take the Vestas plant over, as was done at a smaller Vestas plant in Scotland recently.

The news of the delay comes as workers at the plant accused Vestas management of harassing the families of the 24 remaining occupiers of the plant. Families of some occupiers were served with legal papers at their homes. One of the occupiers, Luke Paxton, left the factory on Thursday night in order to be re-united with his family; Paxton was checked for malnutrition and low blood sugar by paramedics but was not hospitalized, instead opting to go home. Paxton complained that Vestas management, while now providing hot food to the occupiers, were still under-feeding them; the RMT, which is providing legal aid to the Vestas workers, has accused Vestas management of violating the Human Rights Act by attempting to "starve the workers at Vestas into submission".

Protesters in fancy dress were successful in sending food into the plant yesterday. Protesters dressed as a fantasy wizard and can-can dancers distracted police and company security guarding the fence which has been erected around the site while other protesters flung a bag of food and an electric kettle onto the balcony outside the office which has served as the occupiers' home base inside the factory. No arrests were made but the protesters were removed from the factory grounds.

Requests for comment from Vestas management received no reply.

title: Vestas delays closure of Newport plant


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South African President Jacob Zuma chooses new Police Chief

July 31, 2009

The President of South Africa, Jacob Zuma, has chosen a new National Police Chief. Provincial transport minister Bheki Cele will replace Jackie Selebi, who is awaiting the outcome on charges of corruption.

Zuma said in a statement to the press that the appointment is "integral" to the government's plan of reducing the country's crime levels within five years. South Africa has a high crime rate and, on average, has nearly 50 murders a day.

"I would like one day for a young girl to be able to walk alone from a nightclub or elsewhere without any fear of attack, abuse or rape. You can't be soft, you can't be moving around kissing crime. You need to be tough because you are dealing with tough guys," Zuma said to reporters at a press conference.

Former Chief Selebi was suspended in early 2008 over claims that he accepted payments of 1.2 million rand ($133,000) from Glenn Agliotti, who was convicted of drug smuggling. Authorities claim Selebi also housed and protected a drug lord.

Opposition leaders criticized Celen's appointment as Police Chief, calling it a political stunt. They state that Celen has never worked on a police force and will lack the ability to reduce crime.


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Template talk:Social bookmarks

Non-free logos
I don't see any good justification for using non-free logos in this template. None of the services are the subject of the articles nor do the images help add context to the text of the article. Please remove them. Thanks, 98.31.12.146 (talk) 18:37, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope. They're fair use as representations of where the links lead you when you wish to share the article with your social peers. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

http://identi.ca
ShakataGaNai has suggested that we should make http://identi.ca work in a similiar fashion to how twitter works with the url shortener. But as i look at this template, its starting to seem a little full so i'm unsure if i should add any more sites. Anyways I'd like some general comments before i go adding another site to this template. Bawolff ☺☻ 23:01, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I noticed the additions and I actually think the template now has too many links. There are two "T" links in there - one for twitter, one something else. I'd stick to the 4 or 6 (max) top sites. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:33, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Please add interwiki
Please, add the next interwiki: es:Plantilla:Marcadores sociales Shooke (talk) 23:38, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ Tempodivalse [talk]  22:33, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yay! Can I now expect to see people posting stories from es.wikinews on Facebook? --Brian McNeil / talk 23:34, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Twitter alt text
editprotected

When the Twitter logo is hovered over, the text "desc=Share on Twitter.com" appears. I doubt that the "desc=" is deliberate. Could an admin please fix this? Thanks! Den dodge T\C(en.wp) 14:21, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

 * ✅ Tempodivalse [talk]  14:23, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

email this story
fr has an email this story link in their equivelent of this template IS that something we want to steal? Bawolff ☺☻ 05:57, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No. I don't think it would be a good idea. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:57, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. A number of people want to share a story, but aren't registered on any of these sites. Email is still the most popular form of online communication. May I ask, Brian, why you think this is not a good idea? Den dodge  T\C (en.wp) 12:00, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It very much depends on the implementation, but in many cases a website's "email this article" link can be used as a form of spamming. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:21, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't really see how. If we use a mailto:example@example.invalid type link, its really up to the user who they send it to. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:01, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with implementing it.    Tris   19:02, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I support implementing this too, i agree with bawolff. Tempodivalse [talk]  19:09, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Openshareicon-128x128.png Open Share Icon
I think it would be more appropriate to use the Open share icon instead of as several of the services that are linked here are not exactly "social bookmarking" sites. What do you think? --ƒajro @ ♨ ★ 07:27, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * To be honest its one icon that means nothing to me vs another icong which means absolutely nothing. I'm neutral either way. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:59, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I vote we stick with what we got because at least the bookmark icon looks like something I know. Never even heard of the open share thingy.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 04:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The Open Share Icon is supported by Ken Rossi (creator of the widely used OPML icons), Bruce McKenzie (GeoTag icons), and is used by hundreds of websites and applications including SmugMug (over 2 million users), NetworkWorld, AddToAny (#1 Wordpress plugin for sharing with over 400,000 plugin downloads), Shareaholic (over 1.2 million users), Weather Underground, and Princeton University amongst many others. Source: Wikipedia -- meattle  14:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * As a matter of taste, I personally prefer the one we've got now because the bookmark picture looks more familiar - and I think it looks nicer. Tempodivalse [talk]  19:11, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Allow me to be my usual sarcastic and cynical self... Yay! Let's use it! One million lemmings can't be wrong. Seriously, I don't know, nor care, who Ken Rossi is, I've never heard of the OPML icons, and this is something I've never encountered on any other website. I recognise what we have now - it's a bookmark. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:28, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Drop Reddit
Per this, pointed out from Slashdot, I think we should drop Reddit. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:26, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * lol - they think it was someone with an account name xssfinder... If they havn't fixed their xss vulnrability we should drop. otherwise, I'm neutral. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:02, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Too many links?
I strongly suspect that this edit was required because there are now just too many sites linked to from this template.

I would like to propose looking at all the currently listed sites and gathering their pagerank/reader numbers/ComScore data to allow a couple of the less popular ones to be dropped. --Brian McNeil / talk 03:11, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think we need to remove the last three; which I've never heard of.    Tris   07:06, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe I've made similar comments in the past, because this is where a few admins have added in ones they think we should have. The template originally started out with the same ones as the BBC, and, well, just growed. What I'm suggesting above is building a case for which to remove. I think there is a good chance that the data will back up your gut feeling on this. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:27, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like the last three & technorati were all added by User:TUFKAAP on the 3rd & 4th of August.    Tris   07:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

 * OK; here are their respective Alexa traffic ranks.
 * Facebook-3
 * Twitter-14
 * Digg-113
 * Stumble Upon-294
 * Reddit-470
 * Delicious-520
 * Technorati-641
 * Fark-2749
 * Simpy-11271
 * So, looking at these numbers-Fark & Simpy are pretty out of their league! Yahoo buzz can't be measured on this as it's on a subdomain of yahoo.com.  I propose we delete Fark, Simpy & Yahoo Buzz from the template.  Any objections or other comments?     Tris   07:46, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd go with that. A secondary consideration might be how we can automate getting stories posted to such sites. As I've said elsewhere, the automated posting to Facebook desperately needs worked on and fixed up; logically, such work should be reused to promote our material as widely as possible. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:39, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, if we can get someone to write a bot that could automatically post to these. I can have a look at it, but my Python coding is very basic at the moment! Anyone who would do that?     Tris   09:53, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. I'd suggest we remove the last two sites and Buzz, they're far less popular than any of the other sites. The others, Technorati and above, are popular enough to retain, i think. Tempodivalse [talk]  12:45, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

 * ✅ and template restored to previous width. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:59, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Too few links
Popularity or traffic of those sites is not as important as 'shareability'. Why discriminate the users of the less popular sites? They don't need more free advertisement. The template should be a dropdown menu like ShareThis or AddToAny with as many services as possible to reach more people. --ƒajro @ ♨ ★ 23:07, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * For one, due to Mediawiki design/WMF Security, we generally can't use theirs. That means we have to build it ourselves, which you might not realize, is a lot of work.   If you have a service you like, why not add their button/addon/dodad to your browser.  It is not feasible for us to support every-single-god-damn-site that does link sharing. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 00:44, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Google buzz?
What're your thoughts on adding something like http://mashable.com/2010/02/12/google-buzz-buttons-count/ or http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/10/google-buzz-button/. Obviosuly without such large pics, but the coding is decent. Stepshep (talk) 06:11, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * No. Simply because that isn't a real button, it is a hack that uses Google Reader (If you actually read the how to).  Once someone comes out with a real button, then sure.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 08:22, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Now they have a not hack: http://www.google.com/buzz/post?url=<URL to post>  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 17:15, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yay! Buzz enabled! -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 06:19, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Email this story - part deux
Well... stealing...I mean borrowing from fetch-comms page redesign, I have added an email this story icon to the template. I tried it a few months ago but it came looking funky and I gave up, thanks fetch-comms! Anyways, like it was mentioned we're gonna be stuck with underscores unless we switch to the toolserver link. Also, lemme know if there are page width issues... I increased the width by 2%. --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 14:38, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe the toolserver one will be better? This is an external tool, but it removes the underscores. Not a very big deal, though.  — fetch · comms  14:48, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, it has a bug, in which it removes the underscores in the links, so it breaks those too. Best to keep the underscores in both places than neither.  — fetch · comms  16:23, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

editprotected There's a closing span tag missing after the email image.  — fetch · comms  14:50, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 15:05, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Facebook 'like' button addition?
Can we add the Facebook 'like' button to the template if possible? Now we can customize a code on facebook, and if you hav Facebook i can make you an administrator for a short time to generate what you need and be done :P but if anyone knows a away around that I think we'd benefit more from both choices present. Most people will 'like' an article before posting to their walls. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 13:52, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No. There was a big discussion on wikitech-l about it; it goes against much of the privacy policy (and is hard to do anyway).— μchip08 22:00, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Another one bites the dust...
On Friday, Yahoo killed off Yahoo Buzz!. As such, it's been removed from the template. That is all. --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 20:23, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * OH NOZ! -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 20:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

LinkedIn and Newsvine added
Just added LinkedIn... don't know why we haven't added it. Considering it's ranked #17 on Alexa and it's one of the few social networks oriented towards professionals which a few of us Wikinewsies use, myself included. Also, kudos to LinkedIn for providing the straight share link on their developers site which saved me from having to dig around through query strings to find it. :)

Then there's Newsvine... which I guess you could say is Microsoft's social news site... since it's owned by msnbc.com, which is a joint venture between MSN and NBC (MS gave it's stake in cable network over to NBC). It's somewhat of a competitor because it allows original reporting. But hey, it allows to share links so that's fine by me. Although, it's not exactly highly ranked on Alexa (#2,476) but we aren't exactly faring that good either... since we're ranked #17,021. :( --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 15:34, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

That color is hideous.
editprotected Why not changing the border color with ? It’s used in the border of all pages, combines with the Wikinews logo and it’s used in eswikinews’ and cawikinews’ corresponding templates. Fitoschido (talk) 11:25, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

 * Trying it. I've put it in place, and we'll see how it wears.  --Pi zero (talk) 12:07, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Buzzkill and plus
So yeah, back in October, Google announced they were killing off Google Buzz because well obviously, they now have Google+! Now that Buzz is gone and Google+ is up and running, we kinda don't have a way to link to it, because AFAIK, any sharing seems like it has to go through Google's +1 button... and so far, I haven't seen a link text-only version. So any potential workarounds? --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 14:36, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I should add that here is Google's site for making a +! button widget code blah blah blah..., as you can see... no text-only version... --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 14:39, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks to this guy's nifty little hack, I was able to get the actual script link for the +1 button and now have added it as a way to share on Google+! YAY! :D --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 06:17, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Moar plus
editprotected Hey, I don’t want to +1 links, but to actually share them to my stream.

This code is simpler and removes the previous hack, this opens a proper share dialog and uses an icon from the Commons (duplicated here):

—Fitoschido [shouttrack] @ 9 February, 2012; 00:16
 * ✅ That was a double-plus-good little hack, thanks. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:37, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

No need for JavaScript starting on MW 1.20
bug 23427 has just been fixed, introducing the variable/magic word. This means that as soon as the next MediaWiki version is live (in the next couple weeks), this template won't require JavaScript anymore to shorten the links to use the wgArticleId as a way to generate short urls for Twitter (by the way, shouldn't the identi.ca link get the same treatment?). On the other hand, I believe now twitter automatically shortens URLs so maybe either approach (javascript or the new ) are useless. But even if that's the case, I guess it would still be useful for people browsing without JavaScript. --Waldir (talk) 11:31, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Google+ logo update
editprotected Google+ logo to be updated File:Logo google+ 2015.png acagastya 11:05, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I have doubts. The old icon seems much more readable at 16px, to me.

 * --Pi zero (talk) 11:29, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm leaning towards doing it; it's not our fault Google made this error. They must have realised websites would scale it down to a button. We can only faithfully reproduce the logo. BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:51, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 02:43, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

45% width issue in mobile site
Flagging it so that we don't forget this one to be fixed. acagastya

Telegram link
Please add an option to share the articles on Telegram. The sharing link for telegram is of the type "https://t.me/share/url?url=<FULL_URL_HERE>". acagastya 09:40, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Google+ is dead

 * “Google+ was shut down for business use and consumers on April 2, 2019.” M!dgard (talk) 08:58, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * As a doornail. Axed.  Thanks. --Pi zero (talk) 11:45, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Twitter link doesn't work
The Twitter share button is not working, at least under the new interface. I'm not sure how to update it, however. --Diego Grez Cañete (talk) 20:16, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The Spanish WN has this: link=//twitter.com/intent/tweet?original_referer=http:&text=&url=http:&via=wikinoticias --Diego Grez Cañete (talk) 20:45, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Axing a few sites
Hello all, long time, no edit (and see)
 * Delicious was bought by Pinboard, another social bookmarking service in 2017 and shutdown. The link redirects to an "app" in the Chrome webstore, because they stopped using delicious.com and went back to del.icio.us in 2016, which is redirecting to a HTTP 500 error.
 * StumbleUpon was shutdown and turned into a website called Mix, we could add it or we could not.
 * NBC News shutdown Newsvine in 2017, redirects to NBCNews.com now.

I've removed them all, (and reduced the width to account for the lack of icons) and just need it to be reviewed. --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 16:14, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

 * Sighted. (Waves to TUFKAAP.) --Pi zero (talk) 16:37, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Digg
edit protected Not sure how/why this is still here in 2019 but Digg long ago stopped being a social bookmark sharing site a la Delicious or Reddit. They even explicitly say don't contact us. Please remove. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:30, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

✅ but needs sighting. --Green Giant (talk) 02:16, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

 * Sighted. --Pi zero (talk) 02:31, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

Edit
This template, very visible through its use on publish, uses outdated logos. Asked42 created this as an update, also incorporating, which has become widely used in the last couple years. I've adjusted the mobile version so the icons aren't being crushed against the left border, as they are on the production version of social bookmarks. Heavy Water (talk) 20:01, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

 * Yes, this template appears on articles going back to 2004. While I don't think server load is something we should be worried about (it was a long time ago) and Asked42's update looks much better, I think we should be careful in making changes so we aren't constantly tinkering. Are there other social media platforms we should consider including? I'm thinking, . Maybe , . Thoughts? SVTCobra 17:49, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No objections to including the suggested platforms, but I also propose that we consider platforms that won't become unpopular in the future. We often see new social media platforms emerge and then fade out. Lastly, as it is one of the most widely used templates, I think the community needs to engage in the discussion. Currently, I don't sense any editors are interested in this case. By the way, it's great to see you becoming active again. Asked42 (talk) 20:35, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * There is more interest. There is a brief and similar conversation that sprung up at the parent template publish. I like the version proposed by Asked42. Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 14:57, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * WeChat is worth considering, given that Hong Kong ranked third in the world for sources of en.wn page views in June and, per a Statista survey, WeChat has a fairly high penetration rate there. WhatsApp seems like an obvious pick, now that you mention it. It might be better to wait with Threads, considering how new it is. Heavy Water (talk) 19:22, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi, after a brief overview, it seems like WeChat does not support URL schemes for external sites to share content or articles, except possibly for some whitelisted sites. Asked42 (talk) 13:11, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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England remembers Bobby Robson

August 3, 2009

Since his death on Friday, tributes have continued to be paid to Sir Bobby Robson, the former manager of the English national association football team. Silences were held at football games throughout the country over the weekend, with fans creating makeshift shrines at Newcastle United and Ipswich Town, the two clubs he was most strongly associated with.

Today Robson's widow was moved to tears when she visited the shrine created by over 50,000 fans at Newcastle. She went on to express her gratitude to the generosity and affection of fans who have since Friday raised over £2,000,000 for the Sir Bobby Robson Foundation, the cancer charity founded by her late husband. At Ipswich fans hope to rename one of the stands at Portman Road after their former manager.

Despite failing to win any major trophies with the national team. Bobby Robson was one of the most successful and best loved England managers. His team infamously lost a penalty shoot out to West Germany for a place in the finals of the 1990 World Cup.

Robson was picked for the position of England manager after a 13 year spell at Ipswich Town enabling them to become league runners up twice and to win the FA Cup and the UEFA Cup.

Following the decision by the Football Association to not renew his contract after the 1990 World Cup, Robson won honours in club football with PSV Eindhoven, FC Porto, and FC Barcelona. His success as a manager has been put down to a great tactical brain and the ability to get the best out of his players, not least through his respect and generosity of spirit towards them.

Robson will be remembered for his humour, his integrity, and his love of a game that he relished from childhood visits to his beloved Newcastle, a team he was later to manage. He died at the age of 76 after a long battle with cancer, and leaves behind his wife of 54 years Elsie and their sons Andrew, Paul, and Mark.

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Talk:Vestas delays closure of Newport plant

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Statement from Socialist Party spokesman Nick Chaffey: The courageous stand of the Vestas occupation and the huge support that stands alongside it from Vestas workers and beyond has rocked management and the government. With the vital support of the RMT and wider support from the trade union movement including PCS, POA and FBU, the workers demand for nationalisation is the only way to resolve this crisis. Despite the government minister Miliband calling for the development of 5000 wind turbines and providing £1 billion worth of credits available for green technology, Vestas management and the government say the market isn't there and the opposition to planning prevents further development. When nuclear power stations are suggested as a solution to the energy crisis no planning issues are raised as an obstacle. All this proves is the failure of the market to deliver. Despite the attempts of management and government to get off the hook support for the workers growa and their call for nationalisation. The vital task is to mobilise the trade union support and wider support of workers and communities across the IOW to force the governement to act. Despite managements efforts to bully and intimidate the occupation Vestas workers are determined to stay put and see this factory stay open.

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Please add to Category:Renewable energy. Thanks.—Elekhh (talk) 23:21, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
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Comments:ETA fighters kill Spanish guard in southern France

They are not "fighters", they are terrorists and assasins, coward and vile at best.

They are liars, too. Basque Country would be the best place in Spain to live in, if ETA didn't exist.

There is no repression at all, no hate from the rest of Spain against the Basque Country. Franco's era ended 30 years ago, that is something ETA doesn't want to understand.


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Nigerian victory marred by deaths in custody

August 3, 2009

Since declaring victory over the self styled "Black Taliban" last week, new accusations of extra-judicial killings and summary executions have been leveled against the Nigerian authorities.

The allegations centre around the death of the charismatic leader  of the Boko Haram sect and an unconfirmed number of his followers. Yusuf was captured after five days of violence which saw the shelling of the sect's compound in Maiduguri and an extensive manhunt.

New pictures have been revealed of Yusuf showing him shortly after his capture from a hole in the ground at a property owned by the family of one of his four wives. Shortly after the photograph was taken the bullet ridden body of Yusuf was shown to a television crew who had been expecting to interview him. The Nigerian authorities seemed initially intent on humiliating Yusuf and using his capture to cow his remaining followers, as other footage shows Yusuf pleading not to be harmed.

The death of Yusuf has been condemned by human rights activists and although extra-judicial killing has been denied, the official line being Yusuf died while trying to escape custody, his death has been described by Information Minister as being "good for Nigeria".

Despite the Nigerian military initially claiming that under 400 have been killed, with the majority being militants killed when the sect's compound was shelled, the Red Cross claim that at least 780 have been killed in Maiduguri alone.

The deaths come in the wake of attacks by the Boko Haram sect over the arrest of its leaders. Arrests that came after it was feared that the sect was planning an armed uprising in an attempt to impose Sharia law in a nation that is half Christian. The sect centered on its heartland Maiduguri, targeted police stations and security personnel with everything from machetes to poison arrows.

Boko Haram is a fundamentalist group opposed to the west and western education, it considers the majority of Muslims in Nigeria to have been contaminated by western education and that the only true Muslims in Nigeria as one who pray at Boko Haram mosques and who adhere to its teachings.


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Michigan student and California engineer sue Amazon for remote deletion of 'Nineteen Eighty-Four'

August 1, 2009

Justin Gawronski and Antoine Bruguier sued Amazon.com on Thursday for remotely deleting their digital copies of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four from their Kindle devices. The suit, filed in the United States District Court for the Western District of Washington, argues in part that Amazon violated its terms of service, as well as the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act and Washington Consumer Protection Act.

Gawronski, a Michigan high school senior, originally purchased both his Kindle and an e-book of the novel for his Advanced Placement English summer reading. He made regular annotations using the Kindle's facility, noting "If [...] something [...] catches my eye as I am reading, I just place a note there". After reading online that Amazon was deleting some copies of Nineteen Eighty-Four, he switched his Kindle on, and watched the copy he had purchased vanish. He later found that the notes he had written were effectively useless, stating, "all my notes refer back to nothing". He said he would probably have to re-read the entire book.

Bruguier, a Silicon Valley engineer, also had his copy of Nineteen Eighty-Four remotely deleted. According to the complaint, Amazon sent him an email saying they were "writing to confirm that we have processed your refund." In response, Bruguier wrote that "I would like to keep the title 1984. I like this book." Amazon refused to allow him to do so, and said they would not provide any "additional insight or action". Eventually, Amazon wrote a new email justifying the deletion by claiming they had lacked the right to sell him the book. Bruguier noted in response that he was "annoyed by [Amazon's] deceit" and that he "thought that once purchased, the books were [his]." His emails also quoted the portion of Amazon's terms of service cited in the suit.

Both clients are represented by KamberEdelson, and the lawsuit seeks class action status. Several classes are delineated, representing relevant sub-groupings of Kindle owners.


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Comments:Former Philippine President Corazon Aquino dies at age 76

Mrs Corazon Aquino dies age 76
This is just to correct about the article about Mrs Corazon Aquino who died on 31/7/09.Mrs Corazon Aquino was the widow of the late Benigno Aquino Sr. and not of Benigno Aquino Jr.Benigno Aquino Jr is the son of Mrs Corazon Aquino to Mr Benigno Aquino Sr.,thanks

 * Not true. Their son is Benigno Aquino III. --SVTCobra 14:48, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No mention of her legendary shoe collection? For shame. 206.74.5.136 (talk) 02:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh, that was Imelda Marcos. --SVTCobra 01:19, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


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American sailor jailed for murder of Japanese taxi driver

August 1, 2009

An American sailor has been jailed over the murder of a Japanese taxi driver. Nigerian national Olatunbosun Ugbogu was sentenced in the Yokohama District Court. Ugbogu's lawyers claimed insanity but judges rejected the claim stating he was fully competent.

The murder took place in March 2008 when Ugbogu entered the cab of 61-year-old Masaaki Takahashi. Takahashi was ordered to drive approximately 60 km from Tokyo to the US Navy base in Yokosuka. Ugbogu then failed to pay the fare and stabbed Takahashi with a knife and fled the scene. He deserted the Navy the same month.

After the murder, the relationship between Japan and the United States became tense. Japanese officials stated that Ugbogu was not handed over to them fast enough, but the US Navy said he was handed over as soon as requested. The strained relationship prompted the US ambassador to apologize to the family of the murdered victim. After the murder the Yokosuka base banned the sale of alcohol and restricted travel.

Japan has around 50,000 US military personnel stationed in the country under the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security, and the relationship with locals is often bitter, particularly in Okinawa, where around two-thirds of the American forces are based.


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Comments:Michigan student and California engineer sue Amazon for remote deletion of 'Nineteen Eighty-Four'

Personal connection
In my AP Language class for summer reading, we had to read 1984. But because all the copies quickly ran out at our public libraries, we (the students) resolved to read the book online here. The funny thing is (if I'm not mistaken, which I very well may be), that website is totally legal, because it is based in Canada, where 1984 is in the public domain. -- Poe Joe (talk) 19:12, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

yes, 1984 is public domain in canada. By extension, it is public domain pretty much everywhere online in that case.

also, on the topic of amazon: doubleplusungood

Troubling Legal waters ahead
Having these e-books exclusive from a company that sells certain file/book is going be rough in the long haul. I think medium is too new and too murky. With Amazon.com holding the exclusive rights over their e-reader & type of files it uses. They'll be able to do anything they want to do with those devices. By Trapping people in using their devices, I totally believe they will not able completely safeguard their purchases. If say Amazon gets introuble for selling something they were suppose to or something else legally goes wrong. They could just remove them from the e-readers at will.

I think this case and possiblly others to come will come see need for universal files or universal readers. No exclusive E-readers for certain companies. I don't think there are any e-book owerner rights. I hope this case brings positive Change. -- Colt9033 (talk) 15:09, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

He'll have to read it again!
The horrors! He'll have to read a couple hundred pages over again! Poor thing. 206.74.5.136 (talk) 14:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, people have lives, and it usually takes a day to read a couple hundred pages. 128.211.161.194 (talk) 13:45, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

DRM Issues
This is why I don't want to buy an ebook reader yet. I'd like a reader with the following qualities:

- No DRM restrictions. - Doesn't break if I accidentally drop it or it rains a little bit. - Decent price.

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Preposterous
That book was never on his Kindle to begin with. We have always been at war with Eurasia. —24.63.7.183 (talk) 05:08, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


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President Obama names 16 recipients of the 2009 Presidential Medal of Freedom

August 1, 2009

United States President Barack Obama has named the 16 recipients who are to receive the 2009 Presidential Medal of Freedom. The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the highest honour a civilian can receive. The medal is awarded to those who make significant contributions to the security and national interests of United States and the World.

British Physicist Stephen Hawking is included on the list. Hawking, who suffers from motor neuron disease, wrote A Brief History of Time. As well as writing science books he is the Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at Cambridge University. Archbishop Desmond Tutu, who was one of the leading anti-Apartheid activists in South Africa, joins Hawking on the list. Senator Ted Kennedy who has represented the United States senate for forty six years was also named.

Former football player and U.S congressman Jack Kemp has posthumously been awarded for his encouragement in the development of underserved urban communities. Also being awarded are African American actor Sidney Poitier and Nobel prize winner Muhammad Yunus.

The women being awarded this year include Billie Jean King, the tennis player who defeated Bobby Riggs in the "battle of the sexes", and Mary Robinson who was the first female President of Ireland. Others include organiser Nancy Goodman Brinker, physician Pedro José Greer, Jr., Reverend Joseph Lowery, author Joe Medicine Crow, and the first openly gay official Harvey Milk. The first woman to sit on the Supreme Court, Sandra Day O’Connor, is also being awarded. Actress Chita Rivera and Professor Janet Davison Rowley will also be recognised by President Obama.

President Obama released a statement saying "These outstanding men and women represent an incredible diversity of backgrounds. Their tremendous accomplishments span fields from science to sports, from fine arts to foreign affairs.  Yet they share one overarching trait: Each has been an agent of change.  Each saw an imperfect world and set about improving it, often overcoming great obstacles along the way. Their relentless devotion to breaking down barriers and lifting up their fellow citizens sets a standard to which we all should strive.  It is my great honor to award them the Medal of Freedom."

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Three American hikers arrested in Iran

August 2, 2009

Three American hikers were arrested on Friday, July 31 in Iran after they crossed into Iranian territory. Reports say the hikers accidentally crossed into Iran while hiking between Halabja and Ahmad Awa in the Kurdish Region of Iraq.

Iranian state-run television confirmed that authorities were holding the two men and one woman for illegally entering the country. According to reports, the hikers were warned that the Iranian border was close by and to be careful when hiking in the area.

Despite the claim by Iranian television, The United States Department of State is still asking the Swiss government to investigate the matter. The Swiss government represents American interests in the nation.

"We are using all available means to determine the facts in this case. The safety and security of American citizens remains the U.S. government's top priority.  We take all detention cases very seriously," said Megan Mattson, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Department of State. "We have asked our Swiss protecting power to confirm these reports with Iranian authorities and, if true, to seek consular access."

The hikers went into Iraq through Turkey on Tuesday July 28, and were staying in a resort located in Ahmad Awa. They then traveled to the Kurdish capital, Irbil, and then went to Sulaymaniyah on Wednesday. According to Kurdish officials, one hiker was ill and stayed in Sulaymaniyah as the others began their hike. The hikers are identified as Shaun Gabriel Maxwell, Shane Bower, Sara Short, and Joshua Steel. It is not yet known which of the hikers stayed behind or who was arrested.

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Homeless man causes bomb scare at LaGuardia Airport in New York City

August 2, 2009

The main terminal at LaGuardia Airport in New York City was evacuated early Friday morning after a man caused a bomb scare. Authorities say a homeless man named Scott McGann, 32, was arrested after he presented a device resembling a bomb attached to a duffel bag. McGann entered the airport around 5:00 a.m. (EDT).

Authorities received at least two calls that McGann was "acting crazy". When he approached security, police tried to approach him. McGann then presented a trigger device and began to press it. When there was no explosion, police tackled McGann and confiscated the duffel bag. When police searched the bag, they found wires and batteries connected together on the outside of the bag, but no explosive material. Authorities called the device a hoax, that McGann wanted others to think was a bomb.

"It was a hoax device. Clearly, it appeared he wanted people to think that's what he had," said Paul Browne, a public relations officer for the New York Police Department. Police also confiscated a plane ticket which was valid for travel from NYC to Oakland, California via United Airlines. Authorities say he has relatives in California. Other personal items were also recovered from the bag, according to CNN.

Authorities continued to evacuate the terminal even after McGann was arrested and began to search the area. Authorities closed main roads to the airport and canceled or delayed flights while the search was conducted. After a four hour search that found nothing threatening, authorities began to reopen the terminal.

According to the NYC District Attorneys Office, McGann is being charged with placing a false bomb or hazardous substance in the first degree, making terrorist threats, and placing a false bomb or hazardous substance in a transportation facility. Authorities say McGann has lived on the streets of NYC for at least one year, and has been arrested at least three times in that period. CNN states that McGann's last arrest was in June of this year. He was charged with resisting arrest and tampering with police evidence.


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Talk:Three American hikers arrested in Iran

Identity mis-match
The story lists four names in the group, that two men and one woman crossed crossed the border, and says that it is not known which hiker stayed behind. Yet, there is only one female name; hence, we can say that she did not stay behind.


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Body of missing Desert Storm pilot found in Iraq

August 2, 2009 The remains of Michael "Scott" Speicher, the first American serviceman to be shot down in the Persian Gulf War, have been discovered in Iraq after an 18-year search. Speicher, a Captain in the United States Navy, was flying over Iraq on January 17, 1991, when the Gulf War began. That night, his plane was shot down and he disappeared.

After the crash, there had been much confusion about the status of the downed pilot. Speicher had originally been declared dead by the Army, but since there were no remains found, the Pentagon eventually declared Speicher missing in action. After this, his official status was slightly changed, and was missing-captured, then changed back to missing in action again until today's discovery.

Once the current war in Iraq began, searches for Speicher's body began again. In 2003 and 2005, Army members searched a prison in Iraq and a graveyard in Baghdad, respectively, but found no definitive proof of any remains at those locations.

Last month, Army officials stated that an Iraqi citizen gave new information possibly leading to the remains of Speicher's body. This led a group of Marines into Iraq's province of Anbar, where more citizens told them that the remains were buried after the crash. The Marines were directed to what was believed to be the site of the crash, and found Speicher's remains there. According to the Pentagon, "One of these Iraqi citizens stated that they were present when Captain Speicher was found dead at the crash site by Bedouins and his remains buried." Speicher was awarded the rank of captain posthumously.

The remains were identified by the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, where a jaw bone was traced to Speicher. "I am...extremely grateful to all those who have worked so tirelessly over the last 18 years to bring Capt. Speicher home," said US Navy Secretary Ray Mabus.


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Welcome to the Wikinews World News Quiz, giving you a chance to test your knowledge on this week's news.

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Israel evicts two Palestinian families from their homes

August 3, 2009

Two Palestinian families who have been living in East Jerusalem since 1956, were evicted from their homes on Sunday after an Israeli court rejected their appeal filed against the eviction. The eviction comes after increasing international pressure on Israel to stop settlement activity and end home evictions.

Israeli security forces entered the homes at 6:00 a.m. (local time) and forcibly removed the family and international activists who were also living in the homes. At least 19 children were among those removed. Al Jazeera reports that a family was beaten with batons as they tried to get back into their house. JTA reports that Jewish families moved into the homes shortly after the Palestinian families were evicted.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has laid biblical claim to the areas of East Jerusalem and has stated that Jews have the right to live anywhere in the city. Although Jerusalem is internationally recognized as occupied territory, Israel continues to evict Palestinians and instead build Jewish only apartments in the area, an action which is considered to be illegal under the Fourth Geneva Convention. Israel has plans for 350 new apartment buildings in East Jerusalem. U.N special coordinator for Middle East Peace, Robert Serry, condemned the evictions as "totally unacceptable".

The international community, including the United States, has called on Israel to stop settlement activity and allow for the creation of a Palestinian state.


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Food packages to Vestas occupiers cut off

August 2, 2009

Food deliveries from the RMT were allowed into the Vestas plant in Newport, England yesterday, but were cut off by Vestas management this afternoon.

Protesters at the Isle of Wight factory celebrated the delivery of supermarket bags filed with groceries, which entered with a police escort. This morning, the sixteen remaining occupiers were told to prepare a list of items for future deliveries. But, according to "Mark", an occupier in the Vestas plant, this afternoon Vestas management reversed their decision, terming the August 1 food delivery a one-time "goodwill gesture" and saying food would no longer be allowed in. The food delivery followed a formal complaint by the RMT that denying the occupiers food was a violation of their human rights. The people inside the factory have been conducting their occupation since July 20, in protest against the closure of the factory, which produces wind turbine blades for the generation of wind power, and the loss of 625 jobs in the Isle of Wight and nearby areas.

Mark went on to praise the "brave people" who have circumvented the security ring around the plant in order to get food and other items to the occupiers. An electric kettle thrown at the end of a rope up to the occupiers is said to be working well. Mark also noted that Louise Christian, a prominent British human rights lawyer, is now representing the Vestas occupiers.

While the number of occupiers at the Vestas plant — originally nearly thirty, now only sixteen — have dwindled, Mark says the ones who remain are "very determined" and furthermore hold no ill will toward their co-workers who have left the occupation. In particular, the occupiers offered sympathy for Luke Paxton, who they say left the occupation due to a combination of personal issues and malnutrition brought on by the deprivation of food. Paxton, Mark said, has the remaining occupiers' "full support" and continues to campaign for the Vestas workers.

Mark also clarified the origins of the occupation. In contrast to claims that green socialist group Workers' Climate Action were behind the occupation, Mark presented a more nuanced picture: the Vestas workers' initial contacts were with veterans of the occupation of Visteon's auto parts plants, with the AWL, SWP and Socialist Party becoming involved later with "quite a big involvement" from all groups. Members of Workers' Climate Action attended Vestas workers' meetings and gave their opinions, but, Mark says, a committee organised by the workers and composed of workers was making all the decisions.

Mark also strongly rejected the support of Solidarity, a "nationalist trade union" closely associated with the BNP. In a July 24 statement, Solidarity backed the Vestas workers, with union executive member David Kerr saying "We are behind the Vestas workers 100 per cent. British jobs must be protected." Mark, in reply, told Wikinews: "We do not want their support...they go against a lot of the things people believe in here. We have Polish workers with us. They're our friends."

Most of the Vestas occupiers remain independent of trade unions, with only three of the sixteen people inside being members of any union.

Mark closed with a message of solidarity with the occupiers of two Thomas Cook branches in Dublin, Ireland, whose employees began a sit-in at their offices on Friday after the announcement of surprise closures. "We fully support what you're doing. Don't back down...do not be pushed around, do not be intimidated".

The Vestas occupiers have also exchanged messages of solidarity with SsangYong Motor Company in South Korea. Workers at SsangYong have been occupying their factory since May 22 in protest against a 36% cut in employees there.

The occupation continues accompanied by a warning of increased union unrest in Britain. Neil O'Brien of centre-right think tank Policy Exchange told The Daily Telegraph that, while labour unrest had increased, the current state of affairs is "nothing compared to what is going to happen once the brakes are slammed on public spending."


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 * How do you feel about food getting in?
 * police no longer letting food in -- this morning, had been told to give list, management not letting food in, Louise christian has spoken to them. "brave people"
 * How is mood since Luke left?
 * mood is stil good. Luke was having problems as not being fed properly. we fully support luke, but down to 16 people inside. "very determined"
 * Do you credit any particular group for getting things going?
 * talked to Visteon beforehand. other is AWL talked to before. swp, sp came in later. workrs climate action can't claim credirt for whole thjing but were definitely involvred. quitre big involvement for all groups. but was workers' committee that was making deciseive actions.
 * How do you feel about backing from Solidarity, which is BNP-backed?
 * rather not have anything tyo do with the bnp. we do not want their support. they go againt a lot of the tjhings people beklieve in hrere. we have polish workers withy usm they're vour friends
 * Have you all joined a union now?
 * still not joined a union, only 3 union memers inside
 * Thomas Cook in Dublin has gone into occupation. Any message for them?
 * offrerd solidarity. already spoken to them. "we fully support what you're doing. don't back down do niot becpushed around, do not be intimidated"
 * Motive to close -- US govt pays a lot more money.
 * message from Korean ocvcupatioon both ways.

(again, typing while talking, sorry it's garbled) --Killing Vector (talk) 15:25, 2 August 2009 (UTC)


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Dublin travel agents occupy offices against closure

August 3, 2009

Employees of two Thomas Cook travel agency offices in Dublin, Ireland have occupied their offices in response to management's announcement of earlier closure dates for the sites. On Friday, July 31, 40 employees at the Thomas Cook store in Grafton Street began an occupation protest after the sudden announcement of the store's immediate closure; workers at the store had previously been told, when the closures were announced on May 12, that the businesses would remain open until September 6. The day after, employees at the Thomas Cook-owned Direct Holidays store in nearby Talbot Street began their own occupation. A third Thomas Cook store in the capital, in North Earl Street, closed without incident; according to one employee who spoke to Wikinews, this is because the North Earl Street store was closed up and stripped out while employees were at home, leaving the workers to find an empty space instead of an office when they arrived for work the next morning.

Employees are demanding an improved redundancy package from Thomas Cook and allege a string of abuses by management. Thomas Cook management has offered the employees five weeks' redundancy pay for every year worked at the company, in excess of the minimum two weeks' pay per year worked required by Irish employment law, and says that the Grafton Street location had been losing money for five years. Employees, demanding eight weeks' pay, counter that the company realised a profit of £400 million in the past fiscal year, of which €4 million originated from Ireland; and that Thomas Cook's UK & Ireland chief, Manny Fontenla-Novoa, was given a bonus of €7 million earlier this year. 60 jobs would be lost in the closure of the two stores, which constitute all of Thomas Cook's retail operation in the Republic of Ireland; a further 17 jobs were lost in the closure of the North Earl Street store.

Before the occupations began, workers at Thomas Cook's locations, who are members of trade union the Transport Salaried Staffs' Association (TSSA) had voted unanimously to strike, alleging that the closures were being done without sufficient consultation of staff by Thomas Cook management. Caroline Cullen, accounts assistant and TSSA staff representative at the Grafton Street location, characterises the behaviour of Thomas Cook management as "intimidation". When the consultation period had finished, she said, Thomas Cook management sent Simon Robinson, an executive director of the company, and a male colleague of his to close the office. The presence of the Thomas Cook executives, two high-ranking, business-suited men, in an office where forty-two of forty-four employees are women is itself intimidating, Cullen asserts; she says that Robinson furthermore attempted to "bully" the employees into accepting the five-week redundancy offer by saying that if they did not accept, they would receive only the statutory minimum. "You cannot live on 5 weeks", says Cullen. "Travel agents are closing every week. There's a hiring freeze at the banks. There are no jobs out there...We need 8 weeks to live on for the next two years while we look for jobs." The extra three weeks' redundancy pay would, she estimates, cost Thomas Cook €400,000.

A series of TSSA demonstrations against Thomas Cook took place throughout July. Trade union Unite in Ireland has offered its support for the occupiers and says it will take place in demonstrations scheduled for Monday morning.

Thomas Cook has accused the TSSA of making use of "dirty tactics", according to a statement from Thomas Cook UK & Ireland CEO Pete Constanti. A court order has been delivered to the Grafton Street office requiring the occupiers to turn the keys over to Thomas Cook management. The TSSA, meanwhile, says that Thomas Cook is "riding roughshod over the right to take industrial action by marching staff into a room and telling them they are going to close immediately".

Cullen says that the occupation began spontaneously. "We didn't think it would go so far", she told Wikinews, but when the closure of the office was announced, the staff "opened the windows and started screaming, 'we're not moving, we're not moving'. We haven't moved since."

Monday, August 3 is a bank holiday in Ireland. Both sides in the dispute have delivered ultimata: Thomas Cook management demands that all staff return to work on Tuesday morning as usual or else the offer of five weeks' pay will be reduced to the statutory two weeks' pay, while the TSSA says that if Thomas Cook management do not produce a better redundancy offer by Tuesday then the business will face a boycott by the TSSA's 800,000 members.

Ireland's Socialist Party and Dublin MEP Joe Higgins have declared their support for the Thomas Cook occupiers, with a press release on Higgins' official webpage saying The High Court order for workers to end their occupation and the threat of Garda action is a disgrace....The trade union movement must mobilise to prevent the Gardaí [the Irish police] being used against these workers. Supporters and trade union activists should come to the offices to support the workers’ action and defend the occupation against any attempt to force them out. Socialist Party members have been leafletting Dublin over the weekend promoting demonstrations in support of the Thomas Cook employees. The smaller Socialist Workers Party has also declared its support and conducted demonstrations for the occupiers.

Cullen said that the support of the Dublin community has been "absolutely fantastic". People are bringing the occupiers fresh-baked scones and cakes and donating money, while morale inside the occupied store is "brilliant". In contrast to the occupation at Vestas in England, where employees have been inside the factory continuously for two weeks, Thomas Cook employees have a chance to go home for a few hours or sleep in one of five rooms at a nearby hotel, although many do sleep in the office overnight. Nearby businesses are providing the occupiers with food at discount prices and, again in contrast to Vestas, the police and security are not interfering with the arrival of food and drink. Thomas Cook management have cut off telephone and internet access to at least some of the affected offices, but employees stay in touch with the outside world via their personal mobile telephones.

Cullen said that a chance for a peaceful resolution to the situation, without the involvement of the Gardai, was up to Thomas Cook management. "Thomas Cook have the chance to come to the table and talk to us. It's in their hands, they still have the chance to come back."

Pauline McManigan, a TSSA member and employee at Thomas Cook subsidiary Direct Holidays' shop in Talbot Street, echoed Cullen's sentiments. "John Kinnane [Thomas Cook's managing director for Direct Holidays] has made things extremely difficult for all staff. He has intimidated staff, bullied staff and used abusive language toward female staff", telling one employee today to "fuck off" in response to a query. Kinnane refused to recognise the TSSA as representing the Direct Holidays staff; without union representation, Direct Holidays staff "were not in any position to consult with senior managers who had their own hidden agenda and proved this when they closed the consultation down when staff said there were other matters that needed to be discussed." Kinnane, she said, made threats similar to Robinson's in order to get employees to vote for the five-week redundancy package.

McManigan says that Kinnane has demanded Direct Holidays' staff return to work on Tuesday as normal. "That's not gonna happen", she replies, noting that the Direct Holidays staff did not trust Thomas Cook management not to close and strip out the store while the employees were not present. McManigan gave the following statement: The staff at Direct Holidays based at 17 Talbot Street, Dublin 1 never had any intention to strike, officially or unofficially, on these premises, although we did pledge our support to our colleagues based at the Grafton Street store & our union, the TSSA, who have supported us wholeheartedly all the way through this. Thomas Cook sent their security firm to this building yesterday to intimidate its staff and try to bully them into handing over the keys to this premises. Staff refused to hand over the keys as there was a fear that the Direct Holiday shop based at 17 Talbot Street would be stripped over the bank holiday weekend and when we returned on Tuesday there would be no office here, as was done at North Earl Street Thomas Cook. Thomas Cook/Capital Holdings has provoked all staff based at Direct Holiday into the action. John Kinnane, the managing director of Capital Holdings has never supported staff at Direct Holidays and initiated senior members of human resources from the UK to come to us and bully us. Staff at direct holidays will stand firm united and strong through all of this. We will not stand down.