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I did not voted for Obama, I still think his tax plans will ruin America. But I really hope too God that he proves me wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.21.217 (talk) 06:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * There you go - republicans can't spell. :) 82.92.179.145 09:49, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

^ Repulbicans? Ignorant people don't often spell well, and they can fall on either party line. Not all republicans are ignorant and neither are all democrats. Anyways, I'm proud of our country for this historic election result. It makes me truly proud to be an American. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.199.195.101 (talk) 14:29, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Look at the past edit history. Originally it was spelled correctly but was later modified to the incorrect form by 66.229.21.217, thus opening the way for you to make such a comment. I suspect the two of you are actually partners in this scheme. I have reverted his illegitimate change to another users comments. 74.227.163.200 03:21, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

OBAMA IS THE BEST
GOOD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.109.114 (talk) 06:41, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

I am not a citizen of the US of A but I still hope he does a better job than his predecessor. -Aless.mac (talk) 10:00, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Somehow, I don't think it would be difficult to do better than Bush. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:24, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

HAHA YES
This is going to be pure win, simply because all the racist sites will shit themselves silly. 124.188.171.7 10:00, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

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Congratulations, Barack Obama! You were the lesser of the two evils.-Sidorvich (talk)

Congratulations America. I hope he does a good job. -Aless.mac (talk) 04:28, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

I really hope he proves me wrong. But i doubt it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.21.217 (talk) 04:54, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Yay. 71.53.176.89 04:58, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations America. A new era has begun! The whole world is watching ye all. Galoubet (talk) 10:38, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

At least McCain gave up gracefully after it became horribly obvious that Obama won (as in the results were in, because it was obvious months ago Obama would win) --Gimmethegepgun (talk) 11:42, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Congrats
Congratulations Mr. Barack Obama, US President Elect.

I hope that he may look the world affairs through a different lens contrary to the conventional route followed by his predecessors and foreign policy drafted in a clean slate so as to protect the human race from the perilous path now traversing by those who are in control of the destiny of worldly life of human race. In that context I hope that the contents of my E-publication under  www.itisme.in   may be helpful to view the worldly affairs through a different mirror. Entire world is looking upon Mr. Obama as a worthy world savior and the world is now passing through a very difficult phase of its existence.

James John

jasnet@sancharnet.in —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.196.140.52 (talk) 11:45, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

relief
Thank the stars that the Republican reign is over. Congrats to all Americans.Derekbd (talk) 12:03, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Obama wins!
I knew it from the start of this historical event, that Obama would eventually win. When the Democratic party was voting for their candidate, i knew Obama would be chosen and truly, i think he could be a good president for the United States of America —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.87.191.254 (talk) 14:49, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

I am so glad Obama is new president. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.26.6.195 (talk) 15:05, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

OUR KENYAN SON OBAMA HAS MADE IT HAHAH

LLOYD

KENYA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.220.124.4 (talk) 15:32, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Woohoo!!!!!
Change is coming to America. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.102.255 (talk) 00:11, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You think? It seems to me we're moving from one homophobic conservative Christian president to another homophobic conservative Christian president. The differences between Bush and Obama are truly only skin-color deep. Angr (talk) 22:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Homophobic? Obama has a whole section on the website Change.gov pertaining to LGBT issues. He's completely different from Bush in most ways.

hey!
cool! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Digdig...treasure (talk • contribs) 00:55, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

From a Republican and too my fellow Republicans
Who voted for McCain, I congrats Obama for not only winning, but being the first African-American to be elected President, King and JFK would be proud. I will not be like some liberals who under bush try too sabotage and made things worse when he was president. I and us fellow Republicans should make the best out it since the world we live in is still dangerous and the problems at Home are no longer 'tolerable' and I hope I was wrong about you're economic plan, so I'm going too be a 'loyal opposition' I already don't like some of the ideas I hear about the Fair Radio being a come back. But as a Citizen I am ready for change.--KDP3 (talk) 08:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

 * BARACK OBAMA IS NOTHING BUT BAD NEWS TO AMERICA. HE IS GOING TO BRING CHANGE TO THE WHITE HOUSE THAT THE PEOPLE WILL NOT LIKE. I was shocked when I heard about Barack winning over McCain. What is this world coming to? An end. If you ask them why they voted for him, they freeze up like idiots. No one knows who he is yet everyone wants to put him in the White House. He has ties to Aires, hmmm if you don't remember he is the guy that bombed our pentagon. I'm not even going to begin talking about revern Wright, that "preacher" has some issues. Pulling the troops out of the war we should of never been in to begin with(thanks Bush) will only make our country seem weak. We have come to far to give up now. Oh and one last thing, higher taxes will never fix our economy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.69.26.236 (talk) 14:09, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Which is better? "Seeming" weak, or staying in the war that will "make" us weak? --199.190.223.190 14:36, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Higher taxes worked underneath Clinton.... oh conservatives. *rolls eyes* --TUFKAAP (talk) 01:15, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

 * What is so hard about using "to" and "too" correctly? 173.23.77.56 (talk) 11:52, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

America the great has fallen.
It scares the crap out of me that our president will not pledge alliegiance to our flag. Our nation, in its poor condition, has chosen a man who cares nothing about america and has virtually no plan for it. It is an abomination that our nation has chosen Barack Hussein Obama II, a man who has the single most liberal voting record in the senate, and voted 'present' 90% of the time he was a senator. If America was attacked under his leadership and he was asked what to do, what would he say? Surely saying "I'm here! present!" wouldn't help much. When our stock market crashes, his mere presence in the white house won't soothe our wounds. When the beauty of marriage is mocked by homosexuals, his presence in the white house will not be enough to preserve the sacred tradition between MAN AND WOMAN. When the nation's film industry becomes too liberal to produce 'family-friendly' programming, his presence in the white house will not cleanse the minds of every child in America who is exposed to the trash. When a baby is murdered before it ever gets a chance to breath on its own, Barack Hussein Obama will not be touched by its cries.. In fact, he supports ALL TYPES of abortion, NO MATTER HOW LATE it is.. Barack Hussein Obama symbolizes the infedelity of our nation because by chosing this individual, we have killed countless more babies, "married" hundreds of homosexuals, crashed our stock markets, and poured trash into our children's minds. If you have voted for Obama, BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF! If you did not, I commend you. I warn you, the end has come not only for America, but for all of mankind. The day of reckoning is coming for the earth and God will rature all of his followers on that day. ARE YOU READY!!?

^ You gotta love the extreme Christian right. With their conspiracy theories and complete lies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.199.194.236 (talk) 15:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * "America the great has fallen" - now you know how the rest of us felt when Bush was elected for a second term. Hurts, don't it? Gopher65talk 16:25, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

 * The greatness of the United States comes from its diversity, not from some theocratic ideologue or schizophrenic. President Obama will be pragmatic and will bring in a new and much more capable administration. One that will stop abuse of the bailout funds for paying non-contractual dividends and other misuses as well as many other malpractices in the financial industry. An administration that will also recognize the sovereignty of Iraq and obey treaties negotiated with its elected government. 74.227.163.196 18:41, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Obama actually is against gay marriage... he does support civil unions however. --TUFKAAP (talk) 01:17, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

"When the nation's film industry becomes too liberal to produce 'family-friendly' programming, his presence in the white house will not cleanse the minds of every child in America who is exposed to the trash" Maybe the parents should be parents and stop their children from watching that trash. Just a thought. Agtrheeeinsm (talk) 17:59, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

go OBAMA
OBAMA will be an awesome prez —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.17.82.98 (talk) 21:56, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

No matter
It doesn't matter obama or Mccain, both are not appropriate candidate. Mccain is too old. can he handle the pressure at age 72? next year 73. He's already old citizen. well Obama is the first black president.

May Obama is better. the world like him more than other candidates. The world want the leader who hear the other country voices, cries and so on. Well we see obama as more humane. Soon we will figure out, how he will lead US. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.27.115.85 (talk) 01:04, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

MUSLIM RULE THE WORLD AGAIN
Again, muslims are coming forward to rule the world once again. Take care everybody. Obama Hussian - Zindabad Go Obama and change the world--116.71.46.139 10:02, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Muslims never ruled the world. I guess it would be too much to expect of the American population that everyone would be able to disregard a person's middle name, and listen to what the candidate says. Long live misplaced Christian fundamentalism and patriotism, eh? --Joda (talk) 12:28, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Name
First muslim to control world. Name should be changed to Barack Hussein Obama.--116.71.62.103 06:57, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

 * All these "name" idiots are the same fools who try to calculate 666 out of everything they see. And who believe in the Mayan calender. Screw balls all around. 65.1.171.207 14:39, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

 * He never even indicated he was a muslim. On your note, the rate at which George Bush was called George Walker Bush, is somewhat similar to the rate Barack Obama is called Barack Hussein Obama. Should he have special treatment because his middle name is the same as some psychotic middle-eastern dictator, who is distinct from Obama in so many ways I don't even know where to begin? --Joda (talk) 16:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

 * nonsense. george w bush was called walker only to distinguish him from his father, WHO SHARES THE SAME NAME.  "hussein" is used only to frighten others and to insult.  - Imind (talk) 01:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

 * For some reason someone added a colon to my reply. It was meant for the original poster. As you would see in my reply, I agree with you. I see no reason why he either should or shouldn't use his middle name. It's JUST a name, with ancient roots like most other names, and doesn't tell us anything about the character of the person who has it. That's the only point I was trying to make. --Joda (talk) 02:22, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Even Barney...
... is pissed off! He bit a journalist's finger... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.151.36 (talk) 14:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

yay
I love my new leash! Quick turn the page! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.245.86.110 (talk) 14:15, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to "THE UNITED SOVIET STATES OF AMERICA"
Leave your guns, fetuses, and (if you make more than ($250k/year) 64% of your money at the door.

Seriously, how did we end up electing a communist as president?!?

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" -Karl Marx in his 1875 Critique of the Gotha Program —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.245.112.85 (talk) 14:08, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Can't believe a Nigger won
ugh

Commen sense from the West "By God" Virginia
Instead of bailing out the Big Corporations ... Why doesn't the US Government give every American citizen one million dollars each to invest in a business, start their own stock plans or retirement or invest in the company they work for so they can keep their jobs and continue to recieve a benefit for their hard work and retire with some pride. We need to get our pride back. The American people are being suppressed by the Big Corporations. It is time to put them in their place. Let American People decide who to bail out. I guarantee they will make the right choice. Peg Bundy from West Virginia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.34.141.44 (talk) 17:38, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Indonesia must be proud
Well done Indonesian. You now be a President of United States. All Indonesian proud of you. And you must pay it. Help us in this economic crisis. Help us so we can create a mutual alliance between our cuntry.

Isn't Obama the first Half Black and Half White President since his father was black and his mother was white?

Obama Better than McCain
Barack Obama is Going To Be like John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr John McCain like Adolf Hitler

When image captions are taken out of context
"McCain (far left) and Obama (far right)". Hahahahahahaha. Yeah, right. harej (talk) 02:12, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "ggggggggggggggggggggggoooooooo..."
ggggggggggggggggggggggoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd —168.8.246.88 (talk) 18:49, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== truly this was the saddest day in american history. thanks for your donations, america. he's needed the golf games and cigarettes at your expense. what a joke on our pocketbook for four years. come on 2012.

but never fear -- there is a solution called ron paul. second in line for a perfect running mate? marco rubio.—99.35.159.5 (talk) 19:18, 1 September 2011 (UTC) ==

Comments from feedback form - "love it!"
love it! —68.104.8.53 (talk) 07:22, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "that is what i am leydi mora p..."
that is what i am leydi mora porterville —71.93.240.14 (talk) 17:32, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "I think it's fair"
I think it's fair —134.197.202.234 (talk) 16:49, 4 October 2012 (UTC)


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State	% Counted	Popular Vote (D)	%	Popular Vote (R)	%	Electoral Vote Alabama	98	806,798	39%	1,259,555	61%	9 Alaska	99	80,340	36%	136,348	62% Arizona	99	850,702	45%	1,012,074	54%	10 Arkansas	96	411,793	39%	624,605	59%	6 California	85	5,675,312	61%	3,386,235	37% Colorado	85	1,089,174	53%	946,605	46% Connecticut	96	921,280	60%	589,615	39% Delaware	100	247,386	61%	151,667	38%	3 District of Columbia	100	210,403	93%	14,821	7%	3 Florida	99	4,066,057	51%	3,866,641	49%	27 Georgia	99	1,706,574	53%	1,945,536	46% Hawaii	100	298,621	72%	110,848	27%	4 Idaho	92	210,507	36%	360,538	62% Illinois	96	3,165,302	61%	1,953,507	38% Indiana	99	1,352,356	50%	1,329,370	49% Iowa	99	818,172	54%	677,449	45%	7 Kansas	99	497,749	41%	681,846	57% Kentucky	100	746,510	41%	1,043,264	58%	8 Louisiana	100	780,981	40%	1,147,603	59% Maine	78	316,130	58%	216,922	40%	4 Maryland	97	1,384,137	61%	867,525	38%	10 Massachusetts	97	1,835,995	62%	1,073,761	36%	12 Michigan	99	2,834,447	57%	2,032,391	41% Minnesota	99	1,565,319	54%	1,270,958	44% Mississippi	99	513,070	43%	678,668	57% Missouri	100	1,436,724	49%	1,442,577	50% Montana	97	205,428	47%	222,203	50% Nebraska	99	315,912	41%	439,328	57% Nevada	100	531,884	55%	411,988	43% New Hampshire	84	329,022	55%	266,057	44% New Jersey	99	2,062,583	57%	1,534,718	42% New Mexico	99	440,893	57%	325,184	42% New York	99	4,315,546	62%	258,848	37% North Carolina	100	2,101,986	50%	2,089,826	49% North Dakota	99	138,530	45%	164,919	53% Ohio	95	2,552,232	51%	2,350,810	47% Oklahoma	99	499,329	34%	951,270	66% Oregon	61	603,645	55%	466,602	43% Pennsylvania 	99	3,184,621	55%	2,584,063	44% Rhode Island	98	272,572	63%	150,891	35% South Carolina	94	796,483	45%	963,456	54% South Dakota	100	170,876	45%	202,999	53% Tennessee	98	1,063,320	42%	1,462,550	57% Texas	99	3,514,449	44%	4,450,325	55% Utah	99	301,771	34%	555,497	63% Vermont	87	181,709	67%	84,889	31% Virginia	99	1,791,154	52%	1,635,292	47% Washington	55	925,026	58%	659,959	41% West Virginia	99	296,268	43%	388,448	56% Wisconsin	99	1,617,820	56%	1,241,086	43% Wyoming	100	80,496	33%	160,639	66%	3 Total Votes		62,115,394		52,842,776

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001.smilenet # 笑傲网络--smilenet@sky 08:02, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

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Colombian army general resigns over civilian deaths

November 5, 2008 General Mario Montoya resigned on Tuesday amid a widening scandal surrounding the Colombian armed forces. An investigation showed that the military personnel under his command had been inflating their successess against rebels by killing innocent civilians and claiming the bodies as enemy insurgents killed.

Montaya is the highest-ranking official to lose his job over the scandal, which last week forced President Álvaro Uribe to dismiss 20 officers from the army's leadership corps.

In addition to the recent deaths of 11 young men from the slums near Bogotá that are at the heart of the scandal, prosecutors are investigating allegations that 1,015 civilians had been killed outside combat since 2002, when Uribe intensified the long war against two leftist insurgencies, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), and the National Liberation Army (ELN).

The resignation comes as Uribe faces increased criticism over Colombia's human rights record from international human rights groups and from Democrats in the U.S. Congress.

Uribe had been a close ally of the United States—he received training in his early military career in the United States—and a close ally in the war on terror.


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This should not have passed style in this review. The article has since been improved. --SVTCobra 00:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


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American author Michael Crichton dies at age 66

November 5, 2008

American author and producer Michael Crichton has died in Los Angeles, California at the age of 66, according to a statement released by his family.

According to Entertainment Tonight, Crichton died after a long and quiet battle with cancer. His family said that his death was "unexpected".

"While the world knew him as a great storyteller that challenged our preconceived notions about the world around us — and entertained us all while doing so — his wife Sherri, daughter Taylor, family and friends knew Michael Crichton as a devoted husband, loving father and generous friend who inspired each of us to strive to see the wonders of our world through new eyes," said a statement by his family.

Crichton, who was born in Chicago, Illinois in 1942, was most famous for the writing of his Jurassic Park novels. He also published The Andromeda Strain, Congo, Rising Sun, Timeline, Eaters of the Dead, all of which became major motion pictures. He also created, and was an active executive producer of the hit television show ER.


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GNU project releases new version of license to allow Wikimedia projects to switch to Creative Commons license

November 5, 2008

The Free Software Foundation (FSF) has announced a new version of the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) which paves the way for the Wikimedia Foundation's (WMF) projects, including the popular Wikipedia, to switch to the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-BY-SA) license. The move was announced following discussions between the Wikimedia Foundation and the FSF.

Erik Möller, deputy director of the WMF, explained the reasoning behind this move. "The underlying motivation of this change is that CC-BY-SA is an easier-to-use license granting the same essential freedoms as the GFDL," he stated on the official Wikimedia blog. "It is also more widely used by other educational projects, and switching the license would allow Wikimedia wikis to freely share content with those projects."

Möller also state that "later this month, we will post a re-licensing proposal for all Wikimedia wikis which are currently licensed under the GFDL."

The change was made in section eleven of the license. It says that conversion to CC-BY-SA is only possible if:
 * The work is licensed under version free of the GFDL
 * The work has no “Cover Texts” or “Invariant Sections.”
 * The work must have been added to a wiki, or a similar website, before November 1, 2008.

The condition of the license allows for conversion to the CC license before August 1, 2009, although after that date it will no longer be possible.

The Wikimedia Foundation formally decided to ask the FSF for the change in December 2007, with the approval of five of the six members of the Wikimedia board, with one member not voting.

Despite the support of the Wikimedia Foundation, some people have voiced their opposition to the move. On Advogato, Chris Frey sent an open letter to the chair of the FSF, Richard Stallman. "I am writing to express my disappointment with the Free Software Foundation regarding the recent release of the GNU Free Documentation License version 1.3," he stated. "The new version 1.3 adds a new clause, section 11, which, according to the FAQ, allows wiki sites to relicense specific content from GFDL 1.3 to CC-BY-SA 3.0, for content added before November 1, 2008. They have this relicensing option until August 1, 2009. This, in my view, is a serious moral mistake and breach of trust. Even if this new clause does no harm, it is still the wrong thing to do."


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Comments:American author Michael Crichton dies at age 66

I enjoyed the Jurassic Park Movie.

Sad news
This is a terrible loss, I was a huge fan of his work, and have every one of his novels. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.199.201.5 (talk) 21:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Agree. I had plenty of nitpicks with his work (Like all good authors), but his quality was excellent; it's unfortunate we wont be getting anything more from his pen. 68.39.174.238 23:05, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

He will be missed dearly. He's such an amazing writer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.193.180 (talk) 00:57, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

R.I.P Michael Crichton, you were one of the best authors in our century. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.8.179.125 (talk) 01:51, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Like most authors he had his good novels and some not so good,but his views through his literature that he left us will always be treasured. His inspiration on ideas not brought to light for future generations will never be and this is truly a sad thought. My sympathy to his family, for he was truly one of a kind. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.141.171.118 (talk) 22:43, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Terrible day for fiction fans
This was a sad day for all of his devoted fans. Michael was a great storyteller, and I was always enthralled by his captivating stories. Jurassic park is a all-time favorite of mine, as well as Prey. I am excited for his posthumous book coming out in May, and my thoughts go out to his family. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.146.236 (talk) 00:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

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The death of such a remarkably gifted author makes me sad; not only did Michael Crichton bring science to his work, he also managed to make it entertaining in a way that everyone found accessible. Michael found out a great formula, intellectual interest plus a heathy dose of action and events, that few if any have managed to achieve. Right or wrong his opinions, can anyone deny they were fun? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.139.193.116 (talk) 22:49, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Recycled stories
I won't deny that Crichton wrote well, but I don't think he was particularly original. Westworld and Jurassic Park are just simple variants on the Frankenstein story. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

MC: When Fire and Ice Collide
This is truly somber news. He will be sadly missed. Though I occasionally found his writing a little over-dramatic, and unrealistic, the emotions and crazed scenarios were always very well grounded in humanity and factual accuracy. When it came to research, the man was a machine, chipping away at the barriers separating him from the knowledge of how things really work, and how people really act behind closed doors. He was very hands-on in the development of his work, perfecting science and language into works of art. He always, and somewhat incongruously, balanced far-fetched scenarios with an exactitude that was unmatched in the realm of science-fiction. It was this, his personalized brand of controlled insanity that made him one of the greatest writers of the 20th Century. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.48.204 (talk) 04:38, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Too much fuss over a minor writer.
He was a very bad writer with very good ideas for stories that would have been far better if he could have managed to orchestrate them effectively. Too many far greater writers have passed with but a passing blurb at the end of a page or single broadcast, while a minor writer with a series of abysmal, albeit innovative, books gets such notice – I find it disturbing. – Brent Bentley —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.108.144.241 (talk) 10:30, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

This was an inside job by the government to silence him. Can't offer additional details, must keep cover intact.


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The "symbols"
Hi dear editor ShakataGaNai; those « » are Guillemets or angle quotes, according to Wikipedia ("They are used in a number of languages to indicate speech"). Sorry, I usually prefer to employ them and not the usual " " and then I easily forget they are not common in English language. Thank you for your corrections and aid. Cheers. --Vilalva (talk) 02:23, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Delete
(User creation log); 04:09. . John McCain is a sidekick (Talk | contribs) Account created (User creation log); 04:08. . John McCain is a jackass (Talk | contribs) Account created IDangerMouse (talk) 04:18, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Brian got to them before I did. Thanks for the heads up though. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 06:34, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

US voting results in full review

 * Hi, I saw you failed this article at review. The style issue has been fixed. As for final results, some states, (like Washington) aren't reporting 99-100% of precincts yet. Thats why some results "aren't final". Could you re-review?   סּ    Talk 14:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well NC was "called" so your data is off. Also it says "Results are sourced from both CNN and Fox News." but Fox news isn't cited as a source below.  And I also think the intro paragraph could use a little work, maybe summarize the results (could be slightly more detailed then "Obama Won") but I suppose that is optional.  You are missing the date line also.  I don't think there is any need to rush on this, personally I think it should wait till MI comes in, so that way it is _all_ the results. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 20:22, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll give it time, wait for all the results to come in.   סּ    Talk 04:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Today's Main Page
I was very flattered to wake up this morning and see three short articles I had worked on ( 2 1 of which I rewrote) as 3 of the 4 leads on the main page.

Thanks for splitting them out and promoting them. I hope Wikinews readers appreciate them.

--InfantGorilla (talk) 10:22, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Honestly, it was because everything else was stale or lame. And I broke them out from the short because they were all long enough. But you are welcome! -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 22:39, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure. They were too short to be good lead articles (none of them longer than 4 brief paragraphs), and one of them was pretty lame, but they were definitely much fresher.  I would have put them there myself if you hadn't got to it first!  I am glad the main page got even sharper as the day went on.
 * While we are on the topic, a request: you deleted the original shorts page. This means that only admins can see the original author of the Parex Bank story.  I think whoever it is deserves to have it in their publicly viewable contribution history (for the bragging rights), if you can find a way of restoring the history.
 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 10:45, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Not really. And if you look, no one gets "credit" before publishing.  This is the way things work. We know who wrote things, but we don't have By lines.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 18:32, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

your wiki news card thing?
its overlaping some of your other stuff please take notice thank you. --Gao63 (talk) 23:18, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Works just fine for me. What browser are you using? IE? -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 23:40, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Reviewing articles
I am stunned that you passed Wikinews interviews the Grand Duchy of Machias and failed NTSB continues investigation of near-collision in Pennsylvania, United States. I am not quite sure what else to say, but you can see the collaboration pages of the respective articles. --SVTCobra 02:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you're stunned. It means I'm doing my job. #1 - congrats, you feel it is a hoax, I don't.  Difference of opinion shouldn't be stunning.  #2 - Uh, did you not read the note? I thought it was EXTREMELY clear why I failed it - the inter-wiki links were broken.  End of story.  And before you give me this BS of "well you could have fixed it".  A) I was doing reviews, not copy edits.  B) I already did work on the article and fixed some of the easy links I saw broken  C) I was on my way out the door to go give a public presentation about Wikinews - didn't have time.
 * So yea.... Shiny... -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 06:48, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

User:Freewayguy
Rschen7754 wants all the accounts indefinitely blocked with e-mail and talkpage disabled, Thank you. --75.47.208.145 07:19, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, so I hear. I will take care of the situation as I see fit. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 07:20, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

There's been a cross-wiki issue here see the link of Freewayguy's abusive behaviour. --75.47.208.145 07:26, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks like he's not the only problem user. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 07:26, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I urge you to change the block settings from 72 hours to indefinite with e-mail and talkpage disabled because he will likely abuse the talkpage and e-mail and even worse he will just make death threats and harass on Rschen7754 and others and as well. --75.47.208.145 07:35, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ever consider not getting into it with him? They way I see it, you guys are picking the fight here instead of going into proper channels.  Also, consider maybe we've got our eye on him?  If he does something again, it's not but a click to indef block.  Additionally if you are SERIOUSLY concerned about the threats he is making about you - you should be calling the police, not dicking around on Wiki's.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 07:38, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, I have blocked both Freewayguy and the aforementioned user above from the English Wikipedia - blocking someone is not continuing a fight. I don't know what the policy here is, but I consider it common courtesy to notify someone that I have asked for the removal of their adminship and put it to a community vote. --Rschen7754 (talk) 08:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * That is very kind of you, thanks! But fear not, I actually found out from the crew in IRC first. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 17:06, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Desysop closed
The request for desysop at WN:RFP has closed with unanimous consent to retain sysop rights. Perhaps in the future in controversial situations like these (intimidating behavior/harassment/death threats, history of said behavior cross numerous wikis, etc.) it might be best to doublecheck what has been done on other projects, consult with checkusers and stewards, etc. But in the end the community still has strong support for you to remain a sysop. Cirt (talk) 22:03, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry I added a comment after it closed. But it hadn't closed when I hit the edit button, it just took me over twenty minutes to write that little comment as I was at work and got interrupted. It closed in the meantime and I didn't notice as it was my last edit from work. I am not saying it should be added back, just wanted to say I didn't intentionally add to a closed discussion. --SVTCobra 23:08, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL - Don't worry about it. It's not like you were running amock or anything.  Plus, I did notice the time stamps were fairly close.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 23:56, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Blood
I need your precious blood. --Vampire seeking fresh human blood (talk) 22:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It's poison. Cary Bass (talk) 23:21, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Obviously. But vampires are purdy kewl. I mean, I wouldn't mind being one.  Get to live forever as long as ya don't go outside during the day.  I can totally handle that.  Plus chicks _dig_ vampires. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 23:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Third-party assessment
Please have a look at User_talk:Brianmc. My take is that language used by such as: ''"Excuse me? This is reality calling!"  and "Bite me"'' is not conducive to a polite and constructive dialogue, but rather instead fosters negative attitudes amongst editors in conversation and also sets an extremely bad standard for others who view these discussions. A third-party assessment from someone previously uninvolved in the discussion would be appreciated. Thank you, Cirt (talk) 00:33, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ Really, I don't know why you'd want me involved - other than you know I'm going to answer with anything but a velvet glove. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 07:37, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Cirt (talk) 11:37, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Update template
How do you feel about the usage of update, in a situation like this where there is a very significant development, here ? Cirt (talk) 11:39, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

 * It's within a week of the article being released, so sure. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 16:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. Cirt (talk) 17:11, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh, it's not within a week. It's within two months. --SVTCobra 23:44, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * SVT haz a good point. I saw "23 November" and then a bunch more edits in the 20 somethings with a month name about the same length.  I didn't realize it was 23 November to 27 September.  So in that case no.  Bad Cirt - preserve history. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 07:25, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Removed. Though if there are others not familiar with Wikinews processes, or indeed wikis in general, it is certainly a convenience link to the next development in a highly related article. Cirt (talk) 07:46, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * True, you can argue it different ways. You argue for Wikinews, heavy on the Wiki.  I'm thinking Wikinews, heavy on the News.  While we are a wiki, a lot of what we do is fairly traditional.  Not because we _want_ to be like everyone else, but there are only so many ways to skin a cat.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 18:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You do have a point, I just think there should be some way to incorporate links to obvious developments in very tightly related articles/topics. Cirt (talk) 19:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * (Reset) Agreed. But how do we balance developments w/ archived news?  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 19:20, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Does a link on a page change the entire message and content of an archived article? No. And also I have seen a few mainstream media news sites with links to more recent articles in their older articles on their online sites. Cirt (talk) 19:55, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:GNU project releases new version of license to allow Wikimedia projects to switch to Creative Commons license

=Was the FSF right to make the change, or was the move a serious moral mistake and breach of trust?=

I hope the license does change
It would make things more simple to share across projects and I think the CC license is easier to understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.236.24.137 (talk) 21:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

"moral mistake" ?
i don't get it. why a moral mistake ? —195.49.248.147 22:23, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Because, unlike with the GPL 3 and the Artistic license, they didn't just change the license to say "These two licenses are different ways of saying the same thing", they changed it to say "Within this brief span of time, people who meet these criteria (insert description of the Wikimedia foundation) may re-license the content without the explicit permission of the authors." To paraphrase a friend of mine, this is the last time I'll ever trust (he said "use") the "or any later version" clause. This just makes me worry how easily someone else might bribe the FSF into re-licensing my GPLed code without asking me. --76.10.136.172 23:16, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is a bad change, but I agree that the process behind it is murky at best. This is a prime example of why you should always specify a specific version of the license that you are using, in order to avoid possible future... actions. Gopher65talk 23:20, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * True, though that does come with its own flaws since, without copyright reassignment, it becomes necessary to contact everyone for a license upgrade... and that can be difficult. Aside from the attitude implied, I think my biggest complaint is that they didn't just add a permanent compatibility the way they did with GPL 3. I hate time-sensitive, expired cruft in legal documents. --76.10.136.172 23:26, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

A step forward
Since the clause expires it allows Wikimedia and friends to relicence their articles to (what would appear to be) an even more free license and then reverts back to the old format. The copyright holders of works should always be able to relicense as they please (although I understand the logistical problems with going from a free to a restricted license). ---Eric 16:51, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


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Needed more work before publication
I know this sounds rather ornery, but it is meant as a constructive critique, not as a troll of the article. So view it through Rose coloured glasses... or maybe Tennant coloured ones.

There are some serious problems with this article, but since we are post-publication I am loathe to completely re-write it. Instead I'll just point out a few of the problems and hope that they won't be repeated in future articles. "Despite the support of the Wikimedia Foundation, some people have voiced their opposition to the move." They do? "Some people"? Cool. How many? For what reasons? This is a generic statement of nothing but opinion and weasel words. At least it lists one Blog — since when are blogs a reliable news source? — but that's just like saying "some guy off the street that we interviewed doesn't like Wikimedia, so Wikimedia must suck". One person =! "some people".

Of course, the article then goes on to completely misrepresent what the Blog author said. Based on the Wikinews article I'd have guessed that he was foaming in the mouth in his "moral" opposition to this move, with his pitchfork and his tar&feathers at the ready. But nope. He said, "I agree that in a practical sense, little has changed, and in many cases CC-BY-SA is preferable." It is clear that he doesn't oppose the license change at all; rather he opposes what he believes to have been an unclear and murky decision making process.

This lack of attention to detail (the writers and reviews obviously just skimmed the blog, else they wouldn't have made this mistake) is a problem in many Wikinews articles. Pleeeeeeeeeeeaaaasse: Quality over quantity. I can live with half as any articles if only the writers take twice as much time with each one. Even a short, few sentence long article should take an hour or so to write and research (more the researching than the writing). Skimming is not a viable option when writing an article; you have to understand your source, and all its nuances!

Also, each significant statement in the article needs to be supported by a list of Who, What, When, Where, Why, How, not just the opening thesis. The previously mentioned "Despite the support of the Wikimedia... (etc)" should have a full set of 5W's in support of it. So just because the opening statement of the article has the five W's doesn't make it a whole article. Gopher65talk 23:06, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

 * I agree with the above criticism. Additionally, I find the subject so Wikipedia specific that it is of little to no interest for someone who is not a member of the Wikimedia community. It is better left for the Wikipedia Signpost, in my opinion. --SVTCobra 23:16, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Category
Please add category Category:Creative Commons. --Saki (talk) 11:22, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


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Children of smokers more likely to go hungry, according to study

November 5, 2008

A medical study has identified a previously unknown risk to children of parents who smoke tobacco: hunger. Children who live in households with at least one adult smoker are more likely to be underfed, according to Dr. Cynthia Cutler-Triggs of the New York University School of Medicine and Bellevue Hospital.

Dr. Cutler-Triggs's study measured food insecurity, a concept used by the U.S. Department of Agriculture since the 1990s to measure the frequency of skipped meals and how often people go to bed hungry. Researchers examined data on 8,817 households from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey. The study parsed the survey, which tracked the health and nutritional status of adults and children in the United States, according to smoking habits and household income.

17 percent of children in low income smoking households suffered food insecurity, compared to an overall food insecurity rate of 11 percent among children. Severe food insecurity occurred among 3.2 percent of children in smoking households.

Only 0.9 of children from nonsmoking households had severe food insecurity. Similar rises in food insecurity occurred among adults from smoking households, but researchers were more concerned about the effects on the health of growing children.

Dr. Michael Weitzman, chairman of pediatrics at New York University School of Medicine, told The Washington Post, "We know that there are long-term consequences of food insecurity for children. They are more likely to do poorly in school, to have iron deficiency and anemia, and to have behavioral and social problems."

An estimated 2 percent to 20 percent of smokers' incomes goes for tobacco, which may compete with the grocery budget in some families. Household income accounted for some but not all of the difference in food security. Dr. Weitzman expressed concern that a continued recession may worsen the problem. "If the economic downturn persists, both food insecurity and adults smoking are likely to increase... [because smoking] is one of the hardest addictions to give up."


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,, and are likely the same vandal-only user. Cirt (talk) 02:12, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

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User talk:221.223.239.96

You put a lot of effort into your hoax/joke, but even on April Fool's Day it won't fly here. Please try to contribute constructively in the future. --SVTCobra 02:48, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

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Comments:Children of smokers more likely to go hungry, according to study

I never went Hungry, I had a Cuban grandmother to over feed me :D--KDP3 (talk) 08:52, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Both of my parents were smokers and I'm fat as hell. Mike Halterman (talk) 19:37, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

poor people smoke dummies, "household income accounted for some but not all" what are the numbers?

Do these children go hungry because their parents are smokers, or because their parents are "low-income"? The headline makes it sound like smokers don't feed their children enough. Perhaps the problem is the system which not only coerces people to pick up expensive and addicting habits, but then keeps them exploited, in poverty and squalor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.31.139.232 (talk) 19:47, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I knew one couple with 2 (or was it three?) children. Both of them worked, and both of them smoked REALLY heavily. So much so that they were spending upwards of 500 a month on ciggies between that. Given that they were already a poor family, that was an insane amount of money to spend on a luxury item like cigarettes. But they couldn't just quit if money got tight... Gopher65talk 19:55, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

The study seems to have been "loaded". It is already a known fact that smoking is more prevalent among low-income families, so the fact that children of smokers are more likely to be underfed is no surprise. They could have picked any habit that is associated with low-incomes and reached the same conclusions. For example, I bet that people who play instant lottery games are also more likely to have underfed children. They should have done a relative comparison. Are kids of rich smokers underfed when compared to kids of rich nonsmokers? Are kids of poor smokers underfed when compared to kids of poor nonsmokers? --SVTCobra 23:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Misleading
The article implies that smoking leads to the undernurishment of children. Most likely, however, there are common factors causing both smoking and poverty/undernurishment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.168.127.10 (talk) 14:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

bull
i noticed in the article that the children in smoking households were from low income households and were being compared to all children overall. of course children in low income households will have more food insecurity than the national average. i am not convinced that smoking adults has anything to do with starving children....i think it has more to do with starving adults than smoking adults. and you can't blame all the worlds problems on something that you don't like —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.89.184.25 (talk) 21:42, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


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Indian filmmaker Baldev Raj Chopra dies at age 94

November 6, 2008 Indian filmmaker Baldev Raj Chopra has died of "ailments relating to old age" in his home in Juhu at the age of 94, according a spokesperson for Yash Raj Films. The actor died at 0830 local time.

Chopra, who was born in 1914, is most famous for his films documenting issues which were relevant to society at the time of their production. These include Dhool Ka Phool (1959), Waqt (1965) and Naya Daur (1957), Kanoon (1958), Hamraaz (1967), Insaaf Ka Tarazu (1980) and Nikaah (1982).

The filmmaker won several awards during his life, including Lifetime Achievement at the 1999 Bombay International Film Festival, the 2004 Filmfare Awards and the 1996 Screen Weekly Awards. He also won the award for best director in the 1960 Filmfare Awards for his role in producing Kanoon.

He is survived by his son Ravi Chopra, who is also a filmmaker.

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Danish PM pushes for new referendum on euro

November 7, 2008

, the Prime Minister of Denmark, said on Tuesday that he will seek broad parliamentary support for a national referendum on joining the, the common currency of the.

"I'm convinced that we need broad support in parliament to hold a referendum, because it's about the Danish currency and about stability and safety," he said, speaking at his weekly press conference. "Recent events have shown the necessity to give the population the opportunity to vote on Denmark joining the euro."

 is reporting that Rasmussen is meeting with political leaders to negotiate support for the referendum.

In 1992, Danish voters rejected the in a. It was only able to the following year after the  granted Denmark an opt-out of the third stage of the  (EMU).

In 2000, Denmark again rejected the common currency in a. The current currency of the country is the. As part of of the EMU, the exchange rate of the krone is allowed to fluctuate within a ±2.25% range to the euro.

In order to maintain this peg, the , adjusts interest rates and performs foreign exchange operations by buying and selling currency. To do this, Danmarks Nationalbank has had to raise rates twice, even as other central banks, including the European Central Bank (ECB), were lowering rates to deal with the. As a result, interest rates in Denmark are now 175 higher than the ECB's rates. As recently as May, the difference was only 25 basis points.

Rasmussen heads the which leads a minority coalition government. The main opposition party, the, also support adopting the euro as the nation's currency.

While there has long been support among the politicians, the euro has failed when it has been put before the voters. However, recent opinion polls have shown a growing support for the euro among Danes. The most recent of these have seen those in favor just topping the 50% level needed to pass a referendum.

Rasmussen has said he wants a referendum put before voters before 2011. His government had originally planned to hold a referendum this past September to abolish the EMU opt-outs, but that was scrapped when Ireland voted down the.

On October 30, while in, Sweden, Rasmussen said: "The euro ensures political and economical stability in Europe and the current financial turmoil makes it evident that Denmark has to join the Euro."

Analysts consulted by  have said that an endorsement from the (SF) could prove to be the tide-turner.

"If there was a vote, then I would vote Yes. But I am of the opinion that it is stupid to hold a vote unless we first have a real debate. We haven't had a debate in eight years and all arguments need to be tested," said of SF.


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User talk:SmokeInDaEye

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Talk:Danish PM pushes for new referendum on euro

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World leaders react to Obama's victory

November 7, 2008 In the wake of Barack Obama being elected the next President of the United States, many world leaders have contacted the president-elect directly. Others have issued statements.

The President of Russia, Dmitry Medvedev, sent a message in a telegram which read: “I hope for a constructive dialogue with you, based on trust and consideration of each other's interests.” United Kingdom Prime Minister Gordon Brown reportedly phoned Obama. The two talked about “global and bilateral issues,” according to a Downing Street statement.

Nicolas Sarkozy, the President of France, spoke with Obama for 30 minutes. Sarkozy's office said the conversation was “extremely warm” and that the two agree to meet in the “quite near future.”

Canada's Stephen Harper also spoke with Obama, according to official reports. Harper's office said they spoke of the upcoming international financial summit on November 15, though Obama will not be attending. An email to the press from Harper's office said: “In a warm exchange, the two leaders emphasized that there could be no closer friends and allies and vowed to maintain and further build upon this strong relationship.”

Mexico's President Felipe Calderón spoke with Obama about the War on Drugs. According to a statement by Calderón's office, Obama said he was “conscious of the difficulty of the battle” and promised “decisive” support from the United States.

The Prime Minister of Australia, Kevin Rudd, also spoke with Obama via telephone. Speaking at Kirribilli House, Rudd said: “The president-elect and I spoke about the strength of the Australia-United States relationship, and our commitment to take that relationship to even greater strengths into the future.”

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad issued a statement. “The great Iranian nation welcomes real, fundamental and fair changes in America's behaviour and policies, particularly in the Middle East region,” it read.

Hugo Chávez, the President of Venezuela, said in a statement: “The historical election of an Afro-American to lead the most powerful country in the world is a sign that the changing times which originated in South America could be knocking the doors of United States.”

Silvio Berlusconi, Italy's Prime Minister, congratulated Obama, describing him as “young, handsome and tanned” (translated). The statement prompted reactions from the opposition and from the international press as it was perceived as a racist remark. Berlusconi replied to criticism restating that his words were meant as a “compliment.”

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Blue links?
I wonder if there aren't too many blue links. I would like to propose unlinking each country name, and keeping the links to the name of each leader: each country can be linked to from the leader's page. --InfantGorilla (talk) 11:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Ottoman Empire
This should be added: .--xgmx (T | C | D | R) 22:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
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I just happened to come across this now. Very nice interview. Love xkcd. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

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Gay marriage banned in three states; other ballot measures decided

November 9, 2008 Voters in California, Florida and Arizona voted on Tuesday to ban gay marriage, bringing about a victory for conservatives on a day which did not bring many conservative wins.

Meanwhile, voters in Colorado, South Dakota and California voted on measures which would have restricted abortion in those states. In Massachusetts and Michigan, voters passed measures that loosen marijuana laws. Finally, in the state of Washington a measure was passed that allows physician-assisted suicide.

The California ballot measure, Proposition 8, overturns the recent June ruling by the California State Supreme Court in the case In re Marriage Cases which reversed a 1977 statute passed by the California State Legislature and a 2000 ballot measure, Proposition 22, which also banned same-sex marriage by defining marriage as between a man and a woman. The wording of Proposition 8 is identical to Proposition 22. It was noted that many of the African-Americans and Latinos who cast their votes for Obama, also voted for the measure. The measure passed at 52% to 48%.

Lesbian comedian Ellen DeGeneres noted, "This morning, when it was clear that Proposition 8 had passed in California, I can’t explain the feeling I had. I was saddened beyond belief. Here we just had a giant step toward equality and then on the very next day, we took a giant step away."

Singer Melissa Etheridge, who is also a lesbian, stated that she would no longer pay taxes due to the passing of Proposition 8, announcing in a blog post, "Okay, so I am taking that to mean I do not have to pay my state taxes because I am not a full citizen."

Also in California, voters rejected a measure which would require parental notification for a minor to receive an abortion. The measure was rejected with the same percentage as Proposition 8, 52% to 48%. Meanwhile in Colorado, voters rejected a measure that would define life as beginning at conception. While the measure did not specifically mention abortion it would have required legislators and courts to confront legal rights for fetuses - effectively preventing abortion. The measure was defeated in a wide margin, 73% to 27%

In South Dakota, voters also defeated an anti-abortion measure which would have outlawed abortion in all cases except in the case of rape, incest or if the mother's health was in serious question. If passed, the law would most likely have been challenged as unconstitutional.

In Michigan, voters approved a measure which legalizes medical marijuana. Meanwhile, in Massachusetts, voters approved a ballot question that decriminalizes possession of small amounts of marijuana in which the possession of an ounce or less would be punishable by a $100 fine. The measure will also require minors under the age 18 to participate in and complete a drug awareness program and do community service. Failure to do so, would net the minor a $1,000 fine.

"Tonight's results represent a sea change. Voters have spectacularly rejected eight years of the most intense government war on marijuana since the days of 'Reefer Madness,'" said Rob Kampia, executive director of the Marijuana Policy Project. "The people were ahead of the politicians on this issue; they recognize and want a more sensible approach to our marijuana policy," said Whitney Taylor, the chair of Committee for Sensible Marijuana Policy, which backed the Massachusetts proposition.

Also, in Massachusetts, voters overwhelmingly, in every single Massachusetts city and town, rejected a ballot measure which would have eliminated the state income tax by 2010, the ballot measure was sponsored by the Committee for Small Government, which is headed up by two libertarians, Michael Cloud, a Libertarian Party candidate for U.S. Senate in 2002 and Carla Howell, Libertarian Party candidate for governor in the 2002 Massachusetts gubernatorial election.

The last time the income tax elimination measure was on the ballot was in 2002, where it was defeated, narrowly by 45.3%. This stunned supporters of the income tax, who mounted a fierce campaign against the measure this time warning Massachusetts residents that repealing the income tax would have drastic effects on the state's finances, leading to cuts in services, education and local aid.

Finally, voters passed a question which bans dog racing in Massachusetts, which will lead to the closure of Massachusetts' two greyhound racing tracks, Raynham-Taunton Greyhound Park and Wonderland Greyhound Park.

The campaign against dog racing was headed up by the Committee to Protect Dogs and endorsed by GREY2K USA and the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals along with other animal protection organizations who claimed that dog racing was inhumane as the dogs were stuffed into cramped cages and endured injuries. The measure was opposed by the park owners including George Carney who owns the Rayham-Taunton park and Charles Sarkis, a restaurateur who owns Wonderland.

"We did it. We did it for the dogs," said Carey Thiel, executive director of GREY2K USA. "For 75 years, greyhounds in our state have endured terrible confinement and suffered serious injuries. We're better than that," Thiel added.

One campaign supporter, Sandy Bigelow noted, "It means everything. We've worked so hard for the dogs and they heard us. It feels so good. Oh, God, it feels so good."

George Carney said of the results, "It's not a very pleasant thing right now. Some of these people have been here 40 years. Here's a company that did nothing wrong, paid their federal taxes on time, paid the town on time. The town is going to be a severe loser, and a lot of people here dedicated their life to the company."

Both sides used emotionally-charged advertisements, the anti-racing side showing “sad-eyed greyhounds,” while the pro-racing side highlighted the workers who would be out of work when the tracks close.

Both measures must now come before the Massachusetts Governor's Council for approval.

A ballot initiative approved by voters in the north-western state of Washington will make it the second state to permit physician-assisted suicide. Initiative 1000 follows the ten-year-old example of the Death With Dignity Act of neighboring Oregon, and will allow physicians to prescribe a lethal dose of medication for a terminally ill patient to administer themselves. It was approved by a margin of 16%, and the ‘Yes’ campaign outspent the ‘No’ campaign by more than three-to-one. The law comes into effect in 2009.


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I saw on TV that a party in Sweden also want to redo the vote for euro. --92.254.214.92 08:58, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

wat?? no wai!!!11 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.221.237 (talk) 21:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


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Wikinews Shorts: November 7, 2008

Labour victory in UK by-election
November 7, 2008 Labour Party candidate Lindsay Roy defeated the Scottish Nationalist candidate by 6,737 votes, to win the UK parliamentary seat for Glenrothes in Scotland. Opinion polls had predicted a close race, but personal campaigning by Prime Minister Gordon Brown, and a high turnout of 52% in Thursday's vote, secured a high margin for the UK's governing party.

Explosion kills 12 at Russian bus stop
November 7, 2008

28 people were wounded and at least 11 are dead after an explosion in the centre of Vladikavkaz, capital of the North Ossetia region of Russia. Local authorities suspect that Thursday's explosion was caused by a female suicide bomber.

Magnitude 6.4 earthquake in South Pacific
November 7, 2008 At 0719 UTC (6.19 on Friday evening local time) a magnitude 6.4 earthquake struck 120 kilometres (75 miles) north east of the South Pacific island of Espiritu Santo, Vanuatu. It was followed by several less powerful aftershocks. Reports from the US geological service placed the focus of the quakes at a depth of 35 km. Press reports say that no tsunami warnings were issued.

Vanuatu experienced a similar earthquake on Wednesday, near the island of Efate. That event had a magnitude of 6.3.

GM reports 2.5 billion US$ loss for third quarter
November 7, 2008 June 29, 2024 American car manufacturer General Motors has lost 2.5 billion US dollars in its third quarter of 2008. The hemorrhage of cash has prompted GM to suspend talks of a "strategic acquisition" that some business analysts say may be referring to a possible buyout of Chrysler. Revenue has fallen nearly 5.8 billion dollars, greatly due to the recent global economic crisis which has caused consumers to sharply cut back on spending. The report indicates that GM could go bankrupt in 2009 without government assistance.

Financial crisis update: further stock exchange falls on Thursday
November 7, 2008

World stock markets posted another drop at close of trading yesterday. Blue chip indices showed losses of 3.55% in Tokyo and 6.84% in Frankfurt. Oil prices echoed the trend, falling to $60.77 per barrel, down 6.94%.

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