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Founder and CEO of Rockmount Ranchwear Jack Weil dies at age 107

August 15, 2008

, founder and CEO of Rockmount Ranch Wear died on August 13 at the age of 107 in Denver, Colorado. He was the oldest working CEO in the United States. He was also known as "Papa Jack".

He was born on March 28, 1901 in, Indiana. In 1946, Weil rented a space at 1626 Wazee Street in Denver and set about trying to create a fashionable yet practical identity for the western ranchers of the region.

Weil was well-known for coining the phrase "The West is not a place, it is a state of mind." He was the first person to put snaps on, patented the saw-tooth pocket design seen on many Western shirts, and was credited with inventing the.

In 2001, he told Associated Press, "I learned fast you can't sell to cowboys; they have no money. You have to appeal to the cowboy in everyone and sell to them."

Among his customers were, , and. More recently, Rockmount shirts were worn by the late and  in the 2005 Academy Award-nominated movie, .

Weil's wife, Beatrice Baum, died in 1990, followed by his son Jack B. in January 2008.

"I never wanted to be the richest man in the cemetery," he told his grandson and current president of the family business.

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This needs a peer review before publishing. —Calebrw (talk) 01:27, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Sorry, I guess I should have mentioned why I swapped out the publish with review.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 01:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You did that so quickly that I thought I was the one publishing. At least it didn't create an edit conflict for me. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:49, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
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Comments:Swedish wrestler throws away Olympic bronze medal, leaves

Stupid, incredibly stupid. Winning isn't everything. 71.59.187.238 02:41, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

What a cry baby.--KDP3 (talk) 08:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Should you accept wrongly made decisions?
Gold-winner Minguzzi said: "Certainly one can always question decisions made in the course of refereeing, but in sports it is appropriate to show sportsmanship and accept the results."

Should you accept apparantly wrongly made, perhaps politically influenced, decisions?

At the Olympic Games in 1988 i Seoul in Korea, the initial judges in the boxing competitions were fired, due to partisan voting on behalf of South-Korean boxers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gosse72 (talk • contribs) 11:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

IOC exists mostly for thievery but they play politics plenty. I've no idea about this case but if he's wrong I'd just blame their politics for "bringing out the big babies." Nyarlathotep (talk) 13:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Lolz.
I knew that this Olympics was going to have at least one instance of idiocy, though I see this guy's side in the story. The judges in this Olympics have had some rather questionable judgement thus far, especially in regards to gymnastics. However, he should've taken it like a man.

-Thelastholdout —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.219.133.1 (talk) 13:47, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Referee
The referee is a cousin to the FILA-President (Supervisor of Wrestling). How can an Italian jury member judge a wrestling game where an Italian wrestler is included?
 * Obviously the FILA-President had to have some sort of country of origin. It happens that it's not Italy. Raphael Martinetti (the FILA-President) is Swiss. Nor is Italian, or italian-speaking, the referee, Jean-Marc Petoud (French-Swiss), nor were italian the judge Lee Ronald Mackay (Canada) and the mat chairman Guillermo Orestes Molina (Cuba) that decided for the penalty after seeing the video replay. International conspiracy or sci-fi movie?

It was corrupted all the way. The referee stated that Abrahamian left the mat and therefore Minguzzi was awarded a point. But nothing happened when Minguzzi left the mat TWICE. And they did not even take a look on the tape when Swedish coach demanded them to look again. A second referee gave another opinion about the situation; that Abrahamian did not take his arm off when the referee told him to. But this is not a reason for giving the other wrestler a point.

During the Sydney Olympics in 2000, a Swede, Michael Ljungberg, who actually won the gold when a Swedish FILA-member, Per Svensson, stated that he was almost robbed by the judges. Then the Swedish FILA-member stated to the judges to look again on the tape. He also told that FILA is full of corruption, that's why he retired.

Ara Abrahamian
This man is clearly the Poorest of Poor Sportsmen. There are correct ways to protest bad officiating, and what he did was not it. I quote the Olympic Oath taken by all of the athletes.

''In the name of all the competitors I promise that we shall take part in these Olympic Games, respecting and abiding by the rules which govern them, committing ourselves to a sport without doping and without drugs, in the true spirit of sportsmanship, for the glory of sport and the honor of our teams

Ara Abrahamian did not abide by the final part of this oath. SHAME ON HIM!!!

Subman758

Why shall Abrahamian abide that rule when the judges certainley did not obey IOC's rules? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.136.6.4 (talk) 16:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

--68.4.72.207 15:59, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

"but in sports it is appropriate to show sportsmanship and accept the results,"
That's poppycock. No one should be a good sport if they know they're being robbed. He did pitch a fit, but it would have been even more cowardly to participate in a farce. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.242.72.65 (talk) 22:26, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree. I don't know the full story behind this case, but if there's corruption in this sport, Abrahamian was brave to take a high profile stand against it. He's just an athlete and not a politico - it may be the only way he knows to make a difference. There are probably many other instances of athletes and other members of the sports community just looking the other way to avoid trouble. 220.76.15.104 10:54, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I want doesn't get!
Remind Ara Abrahamiam that the Olympics is a about sportsmanship. Sportsmanship is:

Full commitment to participation (e.g., showing up, working hard during all practices and games, acknowledging one’s mistakes and trying to improve); Respect and concern for rules and officials; Respect and concern for social conventions (e.g., shaking hands, recognizing the good performance of an opponent); Respect and concern for the opponent (e.g., lending one’s equipment to the opponent, agreeing to play even if the opponent is late, not taking advantage of injured opponents); Avoiding poor attitudes toward participation (e.g., not adopting a win-at-all-costs approach, not showing temper after a mistake, and not competing solely for individual prizes). Wikipedia

A man is judge not by how he handles success but by how he deals with failure. In terms of sportsmanship Ara Abrahamian does not even qualifiy as a man!

-86.145.168.10 09:51, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

 * OK, you spend four years working toward something, let's say a university degree, for argument's sake. Then you are told you cannot have the degree, not because you didn't complete the studies, but because they only award so many degree's each year and the dean's nephew needed a degree. Let's see how calm you are then.

 * Rhetorical question: how would possible corruption within a sport fit into the definition of sportsmanship above? 220.76.15.104 11:05, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Ara Abrahamian behaviour has, once again, illustrated that the archaic sport of Greco-Roman Wrestling should be dropped from the Olympics. There is no place for a 'sport' with ad hoc judging and unsportsmanlike behaviour in the 21st century. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.168.10 (talk) 10:39, 16 August 2008 (UTC) So then if an umpire calls 3 balls thrown over the head of a batter strikes the batter should be a good sport and just go sit down on the bench without so much as a complaint? Anyone who watched the match could see that it was fixed as obviously as the gymnastics. In my opinion all sports that require judging should be dropped from the olympics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.248.128.196 (talk) 22:19, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

who to discipline?
Just exactly who does the IOC plan to discipline for Ara's act of protest? Ara? Probably won't matter to him and he will likely spit in the face of any member of the IOC who dares speak to him at this point. The Swedish Olympic Committee? Why them, they didn't place the medal on the mat or provoke Ara to act. If the IOC and the international wrestling community are embarrassed then perhaps they need to clean their own house before they turn their attention to others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.41.189.16 (talk) 00:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Well he said he is done wrestling, so any penalty is moot. --SVTCobra 03:22, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

A clarification
Abrahamian was not penalized for straying in the blue zone. He was penalized (and had already been issued an unofficial warning by the judge for it, as well) because he was twisting Minguzzi's fingers to break free of a hold, an action which is FORBIDDEN in greco-roman wrestling.

Just for the record... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.80.200.156 (talk) 07:31, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Swedish Wrestler
I believe that the Swedish wrestler is right, and he rightfully deserved the gold medal. The Chinese referees are stupid! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.35.108.174 (talk) 04:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


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The "exclamation" template says: "This article does not adequately cite its sources and may contain unverified information. Please develop this article by adding sources or removing unjustified material. See this article's collaboration page for discussion." Yet, the cited article says: "Phelps won his sixth gold medal and set his sixth world record." --Blumrosen (talk) 04:42, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks. --Blumrosen (talk) 04:52, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

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Musharraf spokesperson denies resignation

August 15, 2008 The chief spokesperson for Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf has denied reports that came out Thursday indicating that the president would step down within days. "I'm tired of saying there's no such thing," Rashid Quershi remarked, and called reports that Musharraf was seeking immunity "nonsense."

Meanwhile, Tariq Azim Khan, a former minister under Musharraf, has said that talks concerning the issue are taking place. "Talks are under way and many people are interested that the issue is settled amicably without going into the impeachment of President Pervez Musharraf."

When the Associated Press asked if Musharraf was going to resign, Azim Khan replied that "there are people who are advising him to avoid confrontation, but I don't think he has made up his mind."

"It is at the moment that Pakistan cannot afford confrontation," Azim Khan said. "And it's obvious that the present government and President Musharraf cannot get along. So it is in the best interest of Pakistan that some way is found whereby this mode of confrontation can be changed or can be more conciliatory."

"He is ready to resign but he is putting conditions like indemnity for the November 3 action," said an anonymous source within the coalition government to The Guardian. "Backdoor talks are still going on. Things have not yet been finalised. Let's see what happens."

Defence Minister Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar said the ruling coalition is determined to press forward with impeachment if Musharraf does not resign. "We have conveyed to them that the coalition is determined for impeachment, and if he wants to save himself, the best way is for him to quit."

Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, a senior minister in the government, said: "Only a few people are still with him and he only wants two things: indemnity for the sins and crimes he committed in the past eight years, and a piece of land ... so he can live rest of his life there."


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Olympic highlights: August 15, 2008

August 15, 2008 August 15, 2008 is the 7th major day of the 2008 Olympic games, the below article lists some of the highlights.

Men's 200-meter individual medley
Michael Phelps won his sixth gold medal of the Beijing Olympics with a world-record time of 1:54.23 in the final of the men's 200m individual medley. The gold puts him one gold medal away from Mark Spitz's individual record of seven gold medals at a single Olympiad, set at the Munich Olympics in 1972. It was also his sixth world record, also one short of a single-Olympiad record set by Spitz as well.

Hungarian László Cseh won the silver medal with a time of 1:56.52, an European record. Cseh out-touched American Ryan Lochte, the bronze medal winner, by 0.01 seconds (1:56.53).

The previous world record time was 1:54.80, set by Phelps at the 2008 United States Olympic Trials in Omaha, Nebrasha.

Men's 50m freestyle
In the first semifinal of the men's 50m freestyle, Cesar Cielo Filho set a new Olympic record with a time of 21.34 seconds, 0.12 seconds ahead of the previous Olympic record and 0.06 seconds behind the current world record.

"It was a great race. The 50m is so fast and it was my best-ever race," said Filho after the race. 'I'm in lane four [in the final]. I'll just do my best and focus on my own race and will touch the wall with my best performance."

Women's 200m breaststroke
American Rebecca Soni net a new world record and won the gold medal in the final of the women's 200m breaststroke with a time of 2:20.22.

Leisel Jones, who was representing Australia, took the silver medal, while Sara Nordenstam finished in third place with a time of 2:23.02, less than one second behind Jones' time of 2:22.05.

Women's 75kg weightlifting
The Chinese Cao Lei set a new world record and won the gold medal women's 75kg weightlifting. Her score of 282 beat the competitor who took the silver medal by sixteen points.

"I was excited and overjoyed because I won the seventh gold medal for Chinese weightlifting," she said, after the event.

Men's individual pursuit
British Bradley Wiggins set a new Olympic record in qualifying round of the men's individual pursuit with a time of 4:15.031 and an average speed of 56.463 km/h.

Hayden Roulston, who was representing New Zealand, finished in second place, while Alexei Markov finished in third place with a time of 4:21.498.

Women's artistic gymnastics individual all-around
American Nastia Liukin won the gold medal in the women's individual all-around in artistic gymnastics. She is the daughter of former Soviet Union gymnast Valeri Liukin, who won a gold medal at the Seoul Olympics in 1988. Her total score was 63.325: 15.025 in vault, 16.650 in uneven bars, 16.125 in balance beam and 15.525 in floor exercise. Her scores at balance beam and floor exercise were the top scores for the individual all-around competition.

Her American teammate, Shawn Johnson, won the silver medal with a total score of 62.725. Johnson had the top score in the vault, with a score of 15.875. Chinese gymnast Yang Yilin won the bronze medal with a total score of 61.925. Yang had the top score in the uneven bars, with a score of 16.725.

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United States and Poland sign missile-defence deal angering Russia

August 15, 2008

In what seems to be the strongest reaction to the Russian invasion of Georgia, Poland agreed to place ten American interceptor missiles in a base in its territory. The deal, reached on Thursday, concluded almost two years of negotiations, so far delayed by Poland, reluctant to irritate its eastern neighbour. However, in view of the Russian offensive in Georgia, these concerns have been superseded.

The missiles, staffed with American personnel, are designed for defence against medium- and long-range ballistic missiles. In exchange for providing the base, Poland will get 96 latest-generation PAC-3 Patriot missiles for defence against aircraft and short-range missile attacks. Part of the deal obliges the United States to defend Poland in case of an attack, with greater speed than normally required under NATO.

"Poland wants to be in alliances where assistance comes in the very first hours of - knock on wood - any possible conflict" the Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said. "It is no good when assistance comes to dead people." Russia reacted to the agreement with anger. According to the Associated Press, the Russian deputy chief of general staff stated that the deal exacerbated the Russia–United States relations and "cannot go unpunished."

According to Russian news agency Interfax, the agreement to accept a U.S. missile interceptor base exposes Poland to a Russian nuclear attack. Russian military doctrine sanctions the use of nuclear weapons against the countries that do not possess nuclear weapons themselves if they are allied with those having them, said Russian General Anatoly Nogovitsyn.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov is reported to have cancelled a scheduled visit to Poland shortly after the deal was announced.


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Sensitive Canadian document found on rainy streets

August 15, 2008

A sensitive Environment Canada document was found wet on an Ottawa street by someone who gave it to the CBC today.

The 131-page document was found on Castlefrank Road in Kanata, Ontario in a rain-stained, tire-marked brown envelope by a passerby.

The document which had the stamp Protected B on every page detailed various security vulnerabilities of the NEMISIS database which is used by officers to track and prosecute environmental law-breakers. If someone were able to shut the system down, or hack inside and delete or corrupt the information, it could affect the prosecution of the lawbreakers.

The database was unveiled in 1999 as the National Enforcement Management Information System and Intelligence System. However, on the document, it referred to the database as National Enforcement and Emergency Management Information System and Intelligence System, adding the words "and Emergency" to the name.

Protection B documents are the second lowest grade of classified government documents. Environment Canada spokesperson Julie Hahn said they apply to letters of complaint, criticism or injury, research or scientific notes and findings that don`t have any conclusion, and Treasury Board letters, agendas and minutes that don`t deal with subjects of national interest.

Environment Minister John Baird has asked government officials how such documents that are supposed to be stored in "approved security cabinets" wound up on the street.

"I'm told two things: that it's neither classified nor secret and that it's stuff that could be available under access to information," Baird said.

Environment Canada spokeswoman Sujata Raisinghani told CBC News the department will look into the incident.

"We take document security seriously," she said, but refused to give any more details about how the papers came to be on a road.

Paul Dewar, an Ottawa New Democrat MP, said the combined security lapses raise serious questions about the government's ability to secure sensitive documents.

Dewar says that bureaucrats of the Conservative government have complained to him about document security to the point that they can`t share the information with their own colleagues. However, when a government document has been found on the streets, the government then says it wasn't particularly sensitive.

"This government is so consumed with control of information and secrecy yet they don't seem to be able to get the fundamentals right," Dewar said.

The incident is a reminiscent of two other incidents.

In March, a bundle of blueprints for a new headquarters for the military's counterterrorism unit were found stuffed in the trash on a downtown street.

In May, Maxime Bernier was forced to resign as Foreign Affairs minister after it became known that he left sensitive documents at the apartment of his then-girlfriend Julie Couillard who had ties to the Hells Angels biker gang.


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Regarding this edit, I'm not sure if this article really belongs to the war in Georgia series. If nobody objects, I'll restore the previous infobox. Lysy (talk) 22:19, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
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'Bigfoot' hunters claim to have found corpse of mythical creature in Georgia, USA

August 15, 2008

During a press conference in Palo Alto, California, hunters of the mythical creature Bigfoot claimed to have found a corpse of the creature. Matt Whitton and Rick Dyer say that they were hunting for the creature in the forests of Northeastern Georgia in the United States when they came across the corpse of one of the alleged animals.

After finding the body, Whitton and Dyer allegedly took it home, where it is currently being stored in a freezer. Despite the possibility of the historic find, they will not say where they found the body.

"We have no intentions of revealing the location. We want to protect this [creature]," stated Whitton during the press conference. He also mentioned that an autopsy is going to be conducted on the body.

The two men had earlier claimed that DNA evidence, photos and video would be presented during the conference, but only one photo was shown. Whitton states that all evidence will be provided once the autopsy, scheduled for next week, is completed.

The single photo shown at the conference portrays a blurred black figure in the distance. Whitton claims the creature was walking "parallel" to them as they hauled out the corpse. Another photo on Whitton's website www.searchingforbigfoot.com shows what is allegedly the corpse, decapitated and stuffed into a freezer.

Tom Biscardi, founder of the Great American Bigfoot Research Organization, joined Whitton and Dyer at the press conference. Biscardi has previously been caught in a hoax. In 2005, his organization claimed to have caught a live male Bigfoot.

Science website LiveScience, run by Imaginova, openly speculates that this is a hoax because of the involvement of Biscardi. It theorizes that this may be a marketing scheme to promote an upcoming film by Biscardi, entitled Bigfoot Lives.

At least one other person states that the group's pronouncement is a hoax. Jerry Parrino, owner of TheHorrorDome.com, a website that sells Halloween costumes, was quoted as saying to Fox News that the photo appeared to resemble a costume that is being sold on his site.

"It definitely looks like our costume. This body has little to do with Bigfoot and everything to do with a Sasquatch costume that someone developed," stated Parrino.

Despite the claim, the Fish and Wildlife Reserve refuses to investigate the alleged discovery because it does not appear on an endangered species list in either the state of Georgia or the U.S..


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This comes right after the situation in Georgia. The "missile shield" is useless and it doesn't work. This "missile shield" only has two functions: one political, the other economical. The political one is to serve as a huge US flag in Russia's backyard in order to piss them off. The economical is to give money to the US politically motivated military industrial complex. All of this (conflict in caucasus, tension, etc.) is an attempt by the soon leaving Bush Administration to create a new Cold War, and carry it towards the next US presidency... But, like all of their intentions since the year 2000, it will not succeed. They're just too incompetent.


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They are not hunters according to Discovery: "Matthew Whitton and Rick Dyer, two men who reportedly operate a Bigfoot tracking business, announced the find on Squatch Detective Radio"--SVTCobra 18:54, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

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Related to the not revealing location of the find. Watched it on FOX News Channel but they aired less than 1 1/2 minutes of it. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 19:26, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
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Should be renamed to Category:War in Georgia (2008) as most of the Russian activities happen in other areas of Georgia. Lysy (talk) 19:23, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Not that we can't do things differently than Wikipedia, but until 2008 South Ossetia war is renamed, I don't really see the need.--SVTCobra 19:33, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

 * And wikipedia will not see the need until this here is renamed ? :) This is wikinews, should be up-to-date. What seemed to be a South Ossetia conflict a week ago changed into something different with Russian tanks some 40 km from Georgian capital. The Georgians had withdrawn from South Ossetia within 2 days. Check the major news outlets on this. Lysy (talk) 19:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

 * BBC: Georgia-Russia conflict, CNN: Georgia Crisis. Why should we lag behind ? Lysy (talk) 19:50, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * @SVTCobra and now, when almost all wikis have renamed their articles, will you rename this category? Aldij (talk) 15:58, 15 May 2024 (UTC)


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This template should be renamed to Template:War in Georgia (2008), to include Abkhasia, Gori and other regions of Georgia. Lysy (talk) 19:25, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

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Comments:Musharraf spokesperson denies resignation

Musharaff pleads Guilty by asking for Safe Passage and Immunity !
If he is asking for a safe passage and immunity from prosecution then this suggests he is guilty. His supporters who is mainly MQM from Karachi is still backing him up, Musharraff was on MQM's payroll as well but circumstances were never ripe for Jinnah Pur.

This person has caused so much harm to the country than all the previous governments combined. He attacked Baluchistan and caused dissent, he attacked the tribal belt, a natural buffer to the Russian Republics and he attacked the Judiciary as well. Also he facilitated through the MQM Ethnic attacks by exploding bombs in Pashtun areas of Karachi.

He is a true shame of the Mohajir Community of Pakistan, and a slap in the face of the unity of the country. If the federation ever collapses it would because of seeds that were planted by this jack.

Ali Hasan Toor

yosef
i respectfully disagree. was tom deLay guilty? the pressure to resign does not indicate guilt.

this has happened so that pakistan will be a divided state as well as a divided nation. this helps India, and hurts China by extension. Boron.merkava (talk) 16:24, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


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Ceasefire signed in Georgian-Russian conflict

August 15, 2008

The of Georgia,  had signed a ceasefire agreement today in the presence of United States (US)  Condoleezza Rice. An identical document, requiring the immediate withdrawal of all Russian forces from Georgian soil, is expected to be signed by Russia. Saakashvili stated that Georgia would "never, ever surrender" to Russia. The ceasefire document was originally drafted under the supervision of Nicolas Sarkozy, the of France.

Saakashvili has stated that NATO had been "inviting Russian aggression" by rejecting Georgia's attempt to enter NATO back in April of this year. Meanwhile, in a report promptly denied by Russian officials, the Human Rights Watch said it had evidence that Russia attacked populated areas of Georgia with internationally banned.

Rice arrived in Georgia on Friday, and according to Saakashvili, the pair met for about five hours. Following the meeting, a press conference was held in which Saakashvili stated that he had in fact signed the accord. But he pointed out that "this is not a done deal. We need to do our utmost to deter such behavior in the future."

Rice has demanded that Russian forces withdraw from Georgia immediately. The accord also provides protection for Georgia and a "reconstruction plan", as well as allowing certain concessions to Russia.

Russia advanced into the break-away province of on August 7 to aid the South Ossetian rebels who had been battling Georgian troops. On the 11th of August Russian troops advanced into Georgian home turf from their base in Abkhazia. Medvedev said that he had ordered Russian troops to begin leaving Georgia on August 11.


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Fire destroys fourth floor of hotel in Darlington, England

August 15, 2008 Guests at a hotel in Northern England were evacuated in the early hours of this morning as a fire broke out, destroying the fourth floor and the roof. The upper floor of the King's Head Hotel in Darlington, County Durham was, at the height of the fire, engulfed by flames resulting in a large plume of smoke rising above the town.

Sixty-three guests were evacuated from the building whilst two where rescued by the fire service but it is not thought that anyone was injured.

Around sixty firefighters were involved in trying to bring the fire under control. Due to the danger of parts of the building collapsing they weren't able to fight the fire from within the hotel and instead broke holes in the roof and used a turntable ladder.

Several roads surrounding the hotel were closed and the adjacent Cornmill shopping centre was for a time threatened by the blaze.

Chief Inspector Paul Unsworth, of Durham Police praised the actions of the hotel staff: "I'd like to congratulate the hotel staff - they did a marvellous job during the night. There were no casualties and they managed to account for everyone in the hotel."

A joint investigation between the local police and fire services has been launched but the cause of the fire is not expected to be known for several weeks.


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Ukraine implements tougher rules on Russian navy

August 15, 2008 Ukraine's President Viktor Yushchenko issued a decree limiting the movement of Russian Black Sea Fleet in Ukrainian waters in response to its deployment in a blockade of Georgia's sea ports during the Russia-Georgia conflict. Ukraine has already before urged Russia to withdraw its troops from Georgia's territory. Last weekend Ukraine threatened to refuse the Russian vessels reentry to the Sevastopol naval base if they became involved in the conflict in Georgia.

The Russian fleet is based in Sevastopol on Ukraine's Crimea peninsula under an agreement signed between Russia and Ukraine. Under the terms of the decree, the Russian navy is compelled to obtain Ukrainian permission 72 hours in advance of the departure of any of its warships or aircraft. Ukraine's foreign ministry would be empowered to demand a vessel leave Ukrainian territory if the Russians did not comply.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov described the Ukrainian move as reflecting "an obsessive desire to please NATO and join it." Russian deputy chief of General Staff, Anatoly Nogovitsyn, dismissed the decree as "nonsense" and said that the order would make Russia's Black Sea Fleet subordinate to the Ukrainian government. According to Russian RIA Novosti news agency, Yushchenko sent a proposal to Russia on Friday to draft a bilateral agreement on the Russian Black Sea fleet deployed in Ukraine.

The Russian fleet blocked several Ukrainian vessels in the Georgian port of Poti but within a couple of days they were released. Georgian Chief of Staff Serhiy Kirichenko said on Thursday that the presidential decree would be carried out, no matter what.

"Putin's next target will be Ukraine" said Richard Holbrooke, a former United States Ambassador to the United Nations in a CNN interview.


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Former Chadian leader receives death sentence

August 15, 2008

Hissen Habre, the former President of Chad, has received a death sentence for plotting to overthrow the Chadian government. He is currently in exile and is living in Senegal.

In addition, the head of Rally of Forces for Change, Timane Erdimi, was sentenced to death in absentia as well as 10 other individuals. Erdimi is related to the current President of Chad, Idriss Déby. 32 other people were penalized with hard labor.

The inquiry said that Habre's government was responsible for 40,000 politically motivated murders and 200,000 torture cases.

The trial, which began on Tuesday, lasted for three days. The individuals tried in the hearing, received no legal defence throughout the period. El Hadj Diouf, Habre's lawyer in Senegal, stated that "this is a manipulation ... I'm not taking this seriously." Habre is expected to be tried in Senegal per the request of the African Union. The trial could potentially be years away, as no official date has been set.

Since being forced out of power in 1990, Habre has fought in a rebellion against the Chadian government along the eastern border of the country.


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Comments:United States and Poland sign missile-defence deal angering Russia

This comes right after the situation in Georgia. The "missile shield" is useless and it doesn't work. This "missile shield" only has two functions: one political, the other economical. The political one is to serve as a huge US flag in Russia's backyard in order to piss them off. The economical is to give money to the US politically motivated military industrial complex. All of this (conflict in caucasus, tension, etc.) is an attempt by the soon leaving Bush Administration to create a new Cold War, and carry it towards the next US presidency... But, like all of their intentions since the year 2000, it will not succeed. They're just too incompetent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.109.228 (talk) 07:19, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

 * The deal befit Poland from attack and it's Putin trying to start the second cold war. What you expect former members of the KGB.--66.229.12.186 12:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Well you would have a point... if that "anti-missile" system worked... But it doesn't. It is useless. It is only a huge US flag, nothing more. Those systems were deployed in many war theatres and they didn't work. They're useless junk and the US knows that. They just use them as expensive US flags.

 * Unproven Missile Defense systems... What makes you think the "anti-missile" system doesn't work? They hit a moving satellite. QUINTIX (talk) 13:39, 16 August 2008 (UTC) Just say "apples to oranges"
 * P.S., Russia would have no reason to be angry if they didn't work. Also, the only places I seen that phrase ("Military Industrial Complex") from Eisenhower get regurgitated is from conspiracy nut sites. QUINTIX (talk) 13:55, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

 * The "anti-missile" systems do not work. Period. They have been used before in the first Gulf War, in Afghanistan and in the Second Gulf War. On average, these systems took out 2-3 missiles out of 10.

Incorrect. This is a matter of confusion among missile systems. i.e.: Raytheon’s antiquated Patriot used in the 1st Gulf War and to some extent in the 2nd (still deployed) with Lockheed Martin’s modern PAC-3; with video of upgraded Raytheon’s Standard Arm missile as a link above. There are a number of such systems today (including Lockheed Martin’s THAAD). PAC-3, to be installed in Poland, has never missed a target in test or in the field. —64.198.194.82 22:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Regarding your PS, I agree with you. The russians, if they do what they promise, which is to "respond" to this, they're buying into Bush Administration's "New Cold War". Who cares? The Bush Administration is on the road now, and they are very unpopular, not only in their country, but outside aswell. Regarding this matter, yes, I agree with you. The russians would do better not to "respond".

 * The Gulf War ? Afghanistan ? Any long range ballistic missiles being used there ? You're confusing different systems. Lysy (talk) 17:01, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Whatever I say it will never be enough. Not even if reality speaks for itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.109.228 (talk) 17:40, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Lolita C. Baldor and Vanessa Gera were incorrect when they said Poland is an ex-communist country. Poland never was a communist country. It was COMMUNIST DOMINATED. What the article infers is that the late Pope John Paul II was a communist because he was from Poland when it was communist dominated.

A correction to the story is in order.

If an attack on Poland happens President George W Bush is too weak to do anything about it. His WMD errors have caused the US to be too weak in the eyes of the Communist world to react or to have any strength to challenge action which are threatened by Russia.

Frank Kochniarczyk 19716 Midas Ct Gaithersburg, MD 20879  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.26.141.237 (talk) 15:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

 * There will be no attacks on Poland or in any other country. There will be no "New Cold War". This was just another attempt by a frustrated, desperate administration, to wreak havoc before they leave power in the US. The information that "Russia has threatned to attack Poland with nukes" is a lie. What Angela Merkel said on the TV was "mistranslated" and put out of context. There will be no war, no cold war and no nuke bombardments. There will be peace and reconciliation. This first decade has seen too much bloodshed already.

PAC3 Is Not Patriot
Quoting statistics of hit-to-miss ratios in the 1st Gulf War as “evidence” for such a system’s incapable nature are erroneous as that was the mostly ineffectual Patriot. PAC-3, the system installed in Poland, was not yet out of test and far from deployment. While the names are loosely used in popular media, Lockheed Martin's (LM) PAC-3 is not Raytheon’s Patriot. Raytheon built Patriot missiles decades ago with 1960s technology as an anti-aircraft device (slow targets). Lockheed Martin's PAC-3 (originated by LTV Aerospace, acquired by LM) was built with the latest technology of its time as an anti-missile-missile device (fast targets) under direction of Ronald Reagan's SDI program - its #1 priority program in the mid-80s. While both systems have been continually upgraded over time, Patriot is incapable of intercepts at speeds and agility implemented by PAC-3. While PAC-3 is commonly termed a “theater defense” weapon (i.e. best suited for slower, large missiles (Scuds, etc.)) it was designed and tested against strategic weapons (ICBMs) and has never missed in test nor as a deployed system in the field. —64.198.194.82 21:46, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


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Needs an offical quote from the court?

Also could possibly do with a little more as to why this is thought 'political' ? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 21:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


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Wikinews Shorts: August 15, 2008

'Alien' beetle found in imported plants
An 'alien' beetle, the citrus long-horned beetle which is listed as a quarantined pest, has been found in acer palmatum (Japanese Maple) plants imported via the Netherlands from China to the United Kingdom.

The larvae of the beetle causes damage to trees such as oak, beech and shurbs such as rose by trunk boring.

A spokesperson for the Department for Environment (DEFRA) was quoted as advising "if you see one of these distinctive beetles please isolate it in a sealed container and contact your local Plant Health and Seeds Inspector."

DEFRA has also issued further information about the beetle at their website. Earlier in July, a similar beetle had been in found in Guernsey.

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Wikinews talk:Reviewing

The article should explain
The article should explain how users do subscribe to this group. Lysy (talk) 22:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That is a process that is still being discussed at the moment, but for the time being trustworthy editors are promoted by any administrator. Discussion is taking place at Water_cooler/technical and also in other threads at Water cooler/technical. Cirt (talk) 22:42, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Question
I want my edits to appear to anons automatically, but before I make a big fuss of it all by requesting for the reviewer right and get a few hundred opposes[citation needed], I want to know the criteria for becoming a reviewer and how much more do I need to do before I can achieve that level. Kayau (talk · contribs) 12:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Our standards for the reviewer standards are generally low overall not very high. The only two things you need to show is that: 1) you know your way around our article writing policies, especially WN:SG, fairly well so as not to make a gross mistake, and 2) that you're trusted. You would certainly meet the latter criteria, and after looking through your contribs and articles, I'd say you meet the former too. I would likely support you if you nominated yourself for the status. Tempodivalse [talk]  13:00, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Tempo, our standards for obtaining reviewer are most definitely not low! The requirements include a good knowledge of policy, demonstration of clear understanding and adherence to such, and - perhaps most importantly - a good grasp of the English language; both spelling and grammar. I am very surprised you would characterise our standards as low. I certainly do not. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:42, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I meant "low" in the sense that one doesn't have to write a whole boatload of stories in order to get approved - two or three good articles are enough - is "low" as in compared to what most Wikipedians' perceptions of the standards are. Of course we're not going to give any random bloke off the street Reviewer status :-) It is supposed to be "easy come, easy go" after all. However, that probably wasn't a good choice of wording on my part, i rephrased. Tempodivalse [talk]  13:57, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia doesn't have flagged revs, so I don't really have a 'Wikipedian' perception of the standard. Besides, Wikibook's standards (in WNReviewer=WBEditor, WNSuperreviewer=WBReviewer, for the reference of those who are not wikibookians) are rather low as well - definitely lower than WN. Kayau (talk · contribs) 14:30, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * A lot of the Wikipedians I've talked to seem to think that "Reviewer" is almost like adminship here, or that it's an admin-lite, and are afraid to nominate themselves for it even if they've written quite a few quality articles here. Really, if you've proven you can write correctly and follow our style guide, there shouldn't be any reason not to give out the bit. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:44, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * As Tempo says, his was poor word choice - something I'm always quick to jump on ;-). It is, as he says, a process of verifying you know the standards. What is at-issue is understanding that you cannot start and publish yourself. To satisfy requirements for our articles to be listed in Google News initial reviews must be carried out by an independent editor. We certainly do want a large number of people with the privilege; such people can then make grammatical and spelling corrections to improve existing articles. Just don't add sources published some time after the date of our article; WN:ARCHIVE may come as a bit of a culture shock if you're used to absolutely any other project. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:47, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * @Tempodivalse: Actually I'm also a Wikibookian, so I'm less confused. :) Kayau (talk · contribs) 14:51, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. Most newbies here come from Wikipedia, and you have a big userpage on en.wp, so I was sort of assuming the same here. All the better that you are on Wikibooks; you probably already have experience with how flaggedrevs works. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:54, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Darn it, now I've learnt a new lesson: Don't be overly hasty when dealing with RfPs! :P (Now that I've had experience, I think the requirements aren't low at all - they're WAY　higher than Wikibooks. Though I can't blame Mr Tempodivalse because as he said, most newbies are 'pedians, but I'm also a 'bookian. Kayau (talk · contribs) 23:57, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello again
Now... I just want to know how I've been doing, how I'll be able to work towards reviewer, apart from avoiding passive voice. Kayau (talk · contribs) 02:23, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

List of Reviewers
Where is he list of all reviewers? --Lib2know (talk) 20:34, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * You don't get to choose who will review your articles; that's part of the concept of independent review. --Pi zero (talk) 21:21, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Wikinews Shorts: August 15, 2008

Greater adherence to WN:SG prior to publishing would have been preferred. --SVTCobra 23:12, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Suggestions on possible title? The Mind's Eye (talk) 23:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You want to move this out of Shorts? Maybe include that it is not just foreign to the UK, but considered dangerous to plant life. --SVTCobra 23:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I see no problem with that, but i unfortunately don't have the time right now. The Mind's Eye (talk) 23:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My apologies, I was confused and for some reason assumed you wanted to make this a article of it's own. Sorry. The Mind's Eye (talk) 23:23, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

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Comments:Ceasefire signed in Georgian-Russian conflict

I thought Saakashvili had already signed the ceasefire before, with Sarkozy, while Medvedev had not. Lysy (talk) 22:41, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Medvedev maby like to get rid of the neocon and W:s influence there first before signing it? Poor people. Saakashvili have luckyly not much rocketartillery left to use against civilians now if not usa and israel resupply him :( international (talk) 23:40, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

South Ossetia?
Okay, what's going to happen to South Ossetia? Did the ceasefire agreement not say anything about them?

71.96.128.236 03:23, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

 * What do you think? Things will remain the same, with some differences that aren't really important. Now, there is a window for at least a "special status" to be implemented in both Abkhazia and South Ossetia. There will also be an "international discussion" about the possibility of these two region becoming officially independent. Either way, things will remain the same... Russia will always control the two regions. Now I ask all of you who are reading this... Was the loss of life, destruction of civilian homes and their lives worth it? Why were people killed and injured so that things remain the same? The individuals that decided this are humans? Do they have the minimum decency? For me, at least, this is proof that those individuals are not humans, but monsters that do not respect life.

Peace for our time
I believe it is peace for our time. 81.5.106.46 18:10, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Where's the original text of this deal, are we living in the stone age? The West says the Russians break the deal and Russia says it's complying to the rules of the ceasefire. So how can we check this. In my opinion if nobody comes up with the agreement plans there is no plan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.101.95.211 (talk) 17:47, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

I've put a link to the hard to find terms of the agreement on the Wiki page, which was removed almost instantaneously. http://reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900SID/LSGZ-7HJGHG?OpenDocument "Six-point peace plan for the Georgia-Russia conflict". Deutsche Presse, August 15, 2008

I suggest the wiki team close the subject and give the public access to the text agreed upon, which I found after hard searching work via Google.

Disinformation creates wars, please provide the public with the terms of the agreement Regards Frans —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.101.95.211 (talk) 18:45, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Trying to find to get back to see reaction on comment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.101.95.211 (talk) 18:49, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You simply can't add new material to old articles after ~24 hours after they've been published. If you want to write a NEW article about this, or add it into an existing article that is about to be published, then do so. But you CANNOT add to this one. It is done. Finished. Over. Ended. Gopher65talk 18:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

The most important link is removed time and time again. The agreement text itself:

Someone doesn't want the public to know what was agreed upon.

 * Can even you read? You cannot place new information in an old article! If you want this "suppressed" information to "get out", then get off your butt and write a new article on it! Placing it in an old article that no one is reading any longer defeats the purpose. Gopher65talk 19:06, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:'Bigfoot' hunters claim to have found corpse of mythical creature in Georgia, USA

Yet another set of folks striving for their fifteen minutes of fame - 63.123.29.145@ 18:13, August 15, 2008

what a hoax —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.77.132 (talk) 14:42, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

yea right
yea right were the pics. huhhhh seeeee u have proof :-(( i want to see pics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.163.139.57 (talk) 02:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Bigfoot,FAKE or not
one early morning In Gorgia  1908 Gorge Cat decided to go hunting the next year    or so he was                                                                                GONE!!!!! Bigfoot Officials             found gorge while        hunting for Bigfoot       Gorge had a huge  bite on his chest                    That was the                    end of 42 year old Gorge Cat

show us some pictures
If their claim is valad then we should be able to see some pictures and a copy of the ferenzics so we can all judge for ourselves...i know indians that see them all the time in the hills of Montana but will not give a location because they dont want any one bothering them. They say the creature is semi private and doesnt want to harm anyone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.160.28.128 (talk) 00:41, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "Mythical creatures are fake yo..."
Mythical creatures are fake you would have to be an idiot to believe you found corps! —76.17.8.87 (talk) 23:05, 22 November 2010 (UTC)


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Talk:Sensitive Canadian document found on rainy streets

Missing critical who and when. --SVTCobra 02:32, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

 * It was given to the media, then found on a wet street? -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 18:13, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It was found on the street, then someone gave it to the media. All the sources I an find don't mention who gave the documents to CBC, nor when, just that someone gave it to CBC. Pie is good  (Apple is the best)  19:37, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


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Wikinews investigates claim McCain plagiarized speech from Wikipedia

August 23, 2008 On August 11, United States Senator and 2008 presidential Republican candidate John McCain gave a speech regarding the crisis between Georgia and Russia. Following the speech, a regular Wikipedia editor noticed that his speech was very similar to an article on Wikipedia also regarding the crisis, in what could be considered plagiarism. Wikinews was able to talk to that editor about how he found out about the similarities and what he did in response. Wikinews also took a deeper look at the claim and investigated further.

McCain gave his speech in Erie, Pennsylvania and was speaking to citizens, giving a warning to Russia stating, "Russian President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin must understand the severe, long-term negative consequences that their government’s actions will have for Russia’s relationship with the U.S. and Europe."

McCain continued his speech saying, "Georgia is an ancient country, at the crossroads of Eastern Europe and Central Asia, and one of the world’s first nations to adopt Christianity as an official religion. After a brief period of independence following the Russian revolution, the Red Army forced Georgia to join the Soviet Union in 1922. As the Soviet Union crumbled at the end of the Cold War, Georgia regained its independence in 1991, but its early years were marked by instability, corruption, and economic crises."

While reading the first few paragraphs, the Wikipedia editor Killing Vector, (who wishes to be called by his contributor name in fear of retribution for coming forward with the claim), noticed a striking similarity to McCain's speech and the Wikipedia article on the country of Georgia. Not only did he notice the similarities, but after reading through the article's edit history, 'Killing Vector' noticed that his speech might have been lifted from Wikipedia, with some of the material in McCain's speech dating prior to the start of the Georgian and Russian crisis.

"I began reading the text of McCain's address on the Georgia crisis, and as I was browsing it the irregularity jumped out almost immediately. The paragraphs which discussed the history of Georgia simply didn't fit with the rest of the speech; the rhetorical style was jarringly different. I figured, "where's someone in a hurry going to get basic information on the Republic of Georgia?" I opened up Wikipedia, went to the article, picked a recent but not current revision more or less at random (July 24th), and hit gold on the first try; McCain's speech and the Wikipedia article had significant strings of words in common, emphasized the same events, made largely the same word choices," Vector said to Wikinews.

Although other media outlets reported the alleged plagiarism, the two passages below were dated at least one week prior to the Georgian and Russian crisis. The first two paragraphs of McCain's speech appear to resemble the Wikipedia article in the history dated July 24, 2008.

"Two paragraphs, about an eighth of the full speech, contain material directly copied from Wikipedia or superficially modified from its text. Those two paragraphs constitute the entire factual background of the speech, though — the rest is reaction and proposed policy," added Vector.

Example (identical wording is in italics.):
 * Wikipedia – ....one of the first countries in the world to adopt Christianity as an official religion.
 * McCain – ....one of the world's first nations to adopt Christianity as an official religion.

 * Wikipedia – After the Russian Revolution of 1917, Georgia had a brief period of independence as a Democratic Republic (1918-1921), which was terminated by the Red Army invasion of Georgia. Georgia became part of the Soviet Union in 1922 and regained its independence in 1991. Early post-Soviet years was marked by a civil unrest and economic crisis.
 * McCain – After a brief period of independence following the Russian revolution, the Red Army forced Georgia to join the Soviet Union in 1922. As the Soviet Union crumbled at the end of the Cold War, Georgia regained its independence in 1991, but its early years were marked by instability, corruption, and economic crises.

McCain's campaign denies they plagiarized Wikipedia, but also didn't state whether they used it as a source for his speech.

"We did not copy Wikipedia in Sen. McCain’s remarks. There are only so many ways to state basic historical facts and dates and that any similarities to Wikipedia were only coincidental," said a spokesman for the McCain campaign, Brian Rogers to The Politico. Wikinews contacted McCain's campaign, but has yet to receive a response.

Wikinews e-mailed Jay Walsh, the director of communications for the Wikimedia Foundation to see what they thought of the situation, and what if anything they planned to do about it.

"We aren't particularly concerned with this," said Walsh who also added that "I'm only aware of this situation through media coverage I've seen, nor do we or I have any in-depth detail about the situation."

"I would say it's a good practice to attribute text or content whenever possible.  Obviously when it's a matter of copyright then there are legal considerations, but the Foundation is not able to examine individual cases," added Walsh. Wikinews attempted to contact Mike Godwin, the legal counsel for the Foundation, but has yet to receive a response.

Vector stands by his claim and also notes what he calls 'dishonesty' on the part of McCain's campaign.

"What concerns me more, as a voter, is the ethical issue. Plagiarism comes from dishonesty and intellectual laziness on the part of an individual, but McCain's campaign's later denial adopts that individual's dishonesty," stated Vector.


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OR notes
Above listed primary source will be referred to in the article. Cirt (talk) 03:48, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Also, additional OR pending which will be added and noted here soon. Cirt (talk) 03:48, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I interviewed the user who blew the whistle, Killing Vector. I also e-mailed Jay walsh for his take, and got his quotes. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:39, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Verification of some sort? Was there an email made to Scoop? Or could part of the text of the email(s) be posted to the talk page? Cirt (talk) 00:42, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * OOps...forgot to scoop them...will do now. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:50, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Is there anything wrong with it?
His use seems to be within Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License. To call it plagiarism is a strong charge that implies that he is passing it off as his own original work, and typically applies to academia and journalists, not speechmakers.

I think it is very interesting and even news-worthy if part of his speech is from Wikipedia, but I don't think it amounts to either plagiarism or copyright issues. --SVTCobra 21:18, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

 * It's certainly a copyright violation, not matter what. Modifications requires "D.' Preserve all the copyright notices of the Document." and "E.' Add an appropriate copyright notice for your modifications adjacent to the other copyright notices." I'm sure McCain didn't add at the end "some text contained within in this speach is a modified version of wikipeda 'page x'." I'm also sure he didn't comply with: "H. Include an unaltered copy of this License." Then again, maybe he included the license with the speech. I wasn't there so I don't know for sure. —Calebrw (talk) 01:28, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh, all of that only applies if you claim copyright of the modified work. Has McCain done so? I doubt it. --SVTCobra 02:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My bad. —Calebrw (talk) 15:43, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Its a miniscule quote, if it even is from W. If it is from W, it would fall under fair use. It's too far-fetched, sorry. --85.82.179.226 00:42, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Attribution
I do not believe that Wikipedia's licence requires attribution. Ours does, and the differences in our licenses is why we can't copy from one another. --SVTCobra 03:05, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * looks like a molehill, slowly being disguised as a mountain. --SVTCobra 03:08, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You might be right here. —Calebrw (talk) 15:43, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I honestly don't understand why we can't copy from wikipedia. It seems to me that based on our licenses, we should be able to copy from them (without attribution), but they shouldn't be able to copy from us (unless with attribution). So why can't we use things like templates from wikipedia? Gopher65talk 16:17, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The GFDL certainly does. Both verbatim and modified distribution requires you to include the copyright notice. I'm however doubtful whether the GFDL even covers public performance--+Deprifry+ 22:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Common knowledge
Why has someone not pointed out that the issues McCain is discussing are considered "common knowledge", and therefore the only possible claim to plagiarism here is actually one of a straightforward copyright violation for copying the exact same language. For more information on plagiarism and common knowledge, visit the Yale University website, among others:. Frankly, it shows a severe lack of understanding of what plagiarism is to call the second example given in this article as plagiarism. 75.14.217.51 01:29, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I'm afraid the lack of understanding is yours. Something being 'common knowledge' is not an automatic 'out' to charges of plagiarism. One form of plagiarism is falsely claiming that new research or synthesis of little known information is one's own work. Obviously, things which are already 'common knowledge' could never be plagiarized in that manner. However, copying the organization and/or style of presentation of ANY sort of information, even common knowledge, is also plagiarism. This is explained here on the same website you cited. Note that, in the examples cited, even rewriting the passage and citing the source are not sufficient to avoid plagiarism. Copying even little things like the order of presentation or a few turns of phrase is plagiarism if the materials copied are not clearly distinguished from the writer's original work. The second example on that page, labelled plagiarism by Yale, shows exactly the sort of exactly matching phrases interspersed with reworded sections all in the same general order as seen in McCain's speech.
 * As another example, the University of Virginia recently expelled two students for plagiarism of this kind from Wikipedia. Both had rewritten the material. One of them cited Wikipedia. However, they followed the presentation order of the information, used some of the same phrases, did not attribute all such passages to Wikipedia... and so they were expelled. --CBDunkerson (talk) 12:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There's a distinct difference between "peripheral and subordinate systems of the mind/brain" or "must be accomplished by the relatively peripheral systems of the brain" or "where conscious thought and experience take place" and "regained its indepenedence", "one of the", or "marked by". If you can't tell the difference between common simple expressions and the complex and highly unusual phrases given in the plagiarism example, you're likely to find plagiarism everywhere.  (I mean, there's probably only 1-2 texts in the entire world that use the expression "peripheral and subordinate systems of the mind/brain").  Compare  to  or even .  75.15.197.95 23:28, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You are taking the 'common simple expressions' bit too far. Yes, the appearance of the same common expression in two different works may be coincidence rather than plagiarism. However, the appearance of two pages of verbatim common expressions in works with purportedly different authors would clearly be plagiarism, NOT a coincidence. McCain's speech falls in between these two extremes. It has alot more than one expression in common, some of them (e.g. 'one of the ... first ... to adopt Christianity as an official religion') aren't really all that common, and has large amounts of the same information (and even words) just slightly reshuffled.
 * For example, in the sentence below from McCain's speech I have bolded the words which appear with the same meaning/purpose in the corresponding passage from Wikipedia:

"After a brief period of independence following the Russian revolution, the Red Army forced Georgia to join the Soviet Union in 1922."

 * I.E. eighteen out of the twenty-two words in that sentence match the Wikipedia entry;

"After the Russian Revolution of 1917, Georgia had a brief period of independence as a Democratic Republic (1918-1921), which was terminated by the Red Army invasion of Georgia. Georgia became part of the Soviet Union in 1922..."

 * That is either minor reshuffling and condensing, of the sort one would expect from a good copyeditor, of the phrases from Wikipedia or an extraordinary coincidence. Couple it with similarly reshuffled and/or slightly alterred wording in the 'one of the first to adopt Christianity', 'regained its independence in 1991', and other passages and it adds up to a level of coincidence that just doesn't seem credible to me. McCain's speechwriter(s) 'just happened' to cover the same facts, in the same general order, with alot of the same words and phrases? Coincidence exists and the point at which it stretches credulity is a judgment call, but this is well past the point that I believe most academic institutions would call it plagiarism. --CBDunkerson (talk) 12:18, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia tunnel view
The article suffers from tunnel view focused on Wikipedia. Wikinews did not "investigate", merely reported the Wikipedia editor's claim. I've moved the article to Develop status until a better investigation is performed. -- SEWilco (talk) 17:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * During investigation the reporter should have noticed the fact that the Wikipedia Georgia article does not refer to Georgia as having converted to Christianity. "...Colchis and Iberia. The latter, one of the first countries to adopt Christianity as an official religion early in the 4th century, subsequently provided a nucleus..." Inferring that Iberia's laws were very significant to modern Georgia requires much more information.  This is like saying "California was one of the most culturally and linguistically diverse areas" (actually referring to Pre-Columbian California) or that the United States was "the first permanent Spanish settlement" (actually referring to St. Augustine, Florida).
 * Investigation should have included searching more widely for McCain's phrasing. Because the CIA and State Department country summaries are often used as sources, a search of ".gov" sites should have been done.  That quickly reveals other similar sources: "Georgia adopted Christianity, the second nation in the world to do so officially", "enjoyed a brief period of independence", "regained its independence in 1991", "marked by rampant cronyism, corruption, and mismanagement".
 * Notice also that McCain's phrase "Red Army forced Georgia to join the Soviet Union in 1922" is not directly shown in the Wikipedia article. The Red Army invaded in 1921.  The Soviet Union was formed in 1922, but that was a political event and the Wikipedia article's phrasing does not indicate if the Red Army was still wandering around Georgia forcing them to join; it probably was doing so but McCain's phrasing is either poorly plagiarized or constructed from deeper understanding.
 * These are the claims and you can look up the revisions. But this has been published for days now and to take it to develop because you don't agree with the findings is not an actionable. This is what the editor observed and that cannot change. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:53, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, the speech switched a few words around that was noted. There is no difference from copying a WP article for a school report then switching a few words. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:55, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Plagerism is a concept for academic and journalistic works, not speeches. --SVTCobra 18:16, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with you, these issues should be addressed before returning to publish. —Calebrw (talk) 17:56, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * well whatever. I have no time to make changes to something that was reviewed and approved. The link to his speech is in the sources, take a look at that and compare to WP. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not to mention...look at edits from July 24 and onward. They are all there. Also sent the mails through scoop so all the accredited reporters that check that address can see them as well. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't believe you have to. I believe that someone should. However, the person who originally posted this would be in a position to do so. That's fair reporting, at least the way I see it in terms of Wikinews. As of now, I'm failing NPOV based on these concerns.
 * A. I think you missed the point of the article. This was more about the claimed plagiarization.  If you want to prove he didn't - go for it.  That's a new article.  B. I think that pulling this from publish after such a long period of time (especially after it was properly reviewed) was a very poor maneuver.  You could have (and should have) posted first before yanking it.  C.  Of course it it "tunnel view"'d.  Everything always is, you can't possibly cover every aspect of every story.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 18:12, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with point "C" here. A discussion would have been a better move. Calebrw (talk) 18:18, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Even when limiting the "investigation" to the text in the Wikipedia article, it is relevant that one of the phrases does not refer to Georgia. Either the information that the Christianity laws applied to Georgia came from another source, or careless plagiarism took place which happened to be correct.  But the Wikipedia article doesn't show that this Iberian act is relevant to modern Georgia.  The omission of the context of the Christianity phrase is an error.  The omission of external sources reflects that at least the headline is erroneous in referring to the interview of an accuser as being an investigation.  -- SEWilco (talk) 15:25, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Peer Review 2

 * I am sorry. But I don't see how you can possibly assert this as POV. If you want to add every aspect that could possibly relate to this article then be my guest. But the point is this: McCain and Wikipedia. There is no other POV. I did what I did as any journalist would do and contacted the proper people for their proper views. If they chose not to respond to that, then there is nothing I or anyone else can do about it. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 19:44, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ive republished this. you reviewed it to be good enough to pub, so bringing it back raises serious questions about your first review.  also the claim of NPOV for this article is lame to say the least and fixing it would a) be very hard to do, b) break the limit on stories and would just be a stupid precedence to start. --Mark Talk to me 19:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I will submit to the group consensus here. At the least I feel the title should be changed. It's not really an investigation. It's more like: Wikipedia editor claims McCain plagiarized Wikipedia or something better written but not along the same lines. —Calebrw (talk) 03:40, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

 * "Verifiability" may be true only that the facts in the article are verifiable. But although the Christianity phrase is in the Wikipedia article the context shows that phrase is not directly applicable to Georgia.  Widening the search to .gov sites shows similar phrasing, so although the phrasing is verifiable there is weak relevance of verifiability to the facts.  The investigator should do wider searches and report results rather than echoing one source.  I stumbled across a Wikipedia preference for multiple sources, but now can't find it.  -- SEWilco (talk) 15:35, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I did the searh the argument here is WP. And based on my investigation, that is what I found. They are similar very similar...but regardless of who put what somewhere else, the question here is Wikipedia. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


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Usain Bolt sets new world record in 100m sprint

August 16, 2008 The Jamaican set a new world record in the final of the 100m sprint, which is often considered a very important event in the Olympic games, with his time of 9.69 seconds.

BBC Sport reported that Bolt set the new world record even though "he didn't even try all of the way."

Bolt passed through the semi-final with a time of 9.85, only 0.13 seconds behind his own world record time of 9.72. This is despite the fact that, according to the BBC, Bolt jogged the last twenty metres.

The American failed to qualify for the 100 metre final. "I don't have any excuses. I'm pretty upset," said Gay after realizing he had failed to finish in the top four of the semi-finals, which took place approximately two hours before the final.

The world record for the 100 metres has dropped significantly since the record of 10.6 seconds was set by on July 6, 1912.

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Talk:Usain Bolt sets new world record in 100m sprint

broadcast report refers to what I watched earlier on BBC One and what I am about to see watching the hundred metre final. Anonymous101talk

If Bolt sets the record I will move this to the main namespace. If not, I will delete it as author request. Anonymous101talk 14:20, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Units
It's 100 m, not 100m. 89.164.61.240 23:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


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"The ten second barrier was first crossed by Jim Hines of the United States on June 28, 2008." cant be right
 * It was wrong. I have corrected the article. Anonymous101talk 14:54, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Good to hear, but not exactly unexpected. I've heard that the Chinese facilities have special features/additions that improves performances and consequently makes it easier to break established world records (as was the case for swimming).--TBC (talk) 07:39, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

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Dorival Caymmi, Brazillian singer and songwriter, dies aged 94

August 16, 2008

Dorival Caymmi, a popular Brazilian singer and songwriter, has died today at the age of 94 at his Rio de Janeiro home. His death was caused by kidney cancer and multiple organ failures.

Caymmi wrote over one hundred songs in his lifetime. His song "Das Rosas" was translated into English as "And Roses and Roses" by the American lyricist Ray Gilbert. Associated Press has reported that his "deep, velvety voice" made Caymmi one of Brazil's most popular musicians. One of his most popular songs, "O que e que a Baiana tem" gained popularity after being performed by Carmen Miranda, who was a popular Brazilian samba singa and film star.

Also an actor, Caymmi performed in several film roles, his first being Joujoux e Balangandãs in 1939. He also starred in Pureza, Abacaxi azul, Estrela da Manhã, Pluft, o Fantasminha, Garota de Ipanema, The Sandpit Generals (an English language film) and, most recently, Tenda dos Milagres. According to Maria Ferreira, a relative of Caymmi, the family is "very shaken" by his death. He is survived by his three children.


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Russia follows Georgia in signing peace plan

August 16, 2008

Russian president Dmitry Medvedev followed the of Georgia,  and signed the ceasefire agreement on Saturday. The peace plan document was originally drafted by, the of France. Medvedev announced during a meeting of the Russian Security Council that he had signed the document.

The truce was signed by Saakashvili on Friday, after a meeting with US. Following the meeting, a press conference was held in which Saakashvili stated that he had signed the accord. But he pointed out that "this is not a done deal. We need to do our utmost to deter such behaviour in the future."

By signing the agreement, both sides agree to pull back their forces to pre-conflict positions. The accord allows certain concessions to both Georgia and Russia.

Initially Medvedev said that he had ordered Russian troops to begin leaving Georgia on August 11. However, the Russian foreign minister refused to put a timetable on the withdrawal of Russian forces from deep inside Georgia and stated that their departure depended on extra security measures being put in place. Lavrov also said Russia would strengthen its contingent in South Ossetia. In a letter to Saakashvili, Nicolas Sarkozy confirmed that according to the signed peace plan, Russian forces are obliged to withdraw from all major Georgian towns regardless of the "additional security measures" mentioned in the document. According to Sarkozy, these additional measures refer to the border area only. At the same time Georgian internal affairs ministry reported that Russian forces changed the administrative borders of Abkhazia, and captured one of the Georgian power plants in the area. It is also reported that Russian forces destroyed the strategic Georgian rail bridge in.

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Wishmaster68 edit make article more neutral as the removed part didnt mentioned the shelling of Tskhinvali among possible warcrimes that Russian argues justifying a military intervention. Maby a rewriting of the part and in the end of article is best. international (talk) 15:51, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Maybe it's best to leave it out. I almost copy-pasted this part from a previous article. It's difficult to keep npov here, as both Russian and Georgian versions differ on how and when it began. Lysy (talk) 17:28, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


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New York City residents lift bus off pregnant woman

August 19, 2008

A seven-month pregnant New York City resident was killed after being run over by a bus.

33-year-old Donnette Sanz, a traffic agent for the city police department was crossing a Bronx intersection at East 188th Street and Webster Avenue when a van pushed her into the path of an oncoming school bus that then pinned her to the road.

"We was riding along, coming down the hill," John Dargan, a passenger in the van, told the Daily News. "He said, 'Oh, my Lord, I don't have no brakes.' It happened so quick."

Approximately 30 people helped lift the bus off of the woman. "I ran out of my house to join 10 people trying to lift up the bus," said Cheryl Brown, 47. "At first, we couldn't get it up, so then another 10 people ran over to help, and we got the bus up and the lady out." After being freed from beneath the bus, Sanz was then transported to St. Barnabas Hospital where her baby was delivered by caesarean section.

Sanz survived the birth, but died an hour later. The 1.5kg boy, named Sean Michael, was initially classified as being in critical condition, but later showed signs of improvement.

"The light turned red, and I couldn't stop. I tried to miss her," said the van's driver, 72-year-old Walter Walker, to the New York Post. Walker was arrested on charges of criminally negligent homicide and driving without a license. He pleaded not guilty. Police said the brakes on Walter's van were in such poor condition that the vehicle was unsafe. Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said that Walker already had 20 suspensions on his driver's license.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg offered condolences to Sanz's husband, Rafael. "It's a terrible poignancy that Donnette's son's birthday will now coincide with the day his mother died," Bloomberg said in a statement.

Sanz's colleagues have set up a memorial at the intersection where she was killed.


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