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Spain defeat Serbia in 2009 European Basketball Championships

September 22, 2009

Spain has won the final of the 2009 European Basketball Championships (also known as EuroBasket) in Poland by beating Greece in the semi-final on Saturday by 82-64, and then going on to beat Serbia in the final on Sunday night by 85-63.

It’s the first time that Spain has won the Gold medal despite being in the final on six previous occasions, and trainer Sergio Scariolo has thus ended an long-running jinx.

The game was dominated by the Spanish play, with Pau Gasol, Rudy Fernández, and Felipe Reyes leading the Spanish combination, whose defence proved key to winning the match.

Gasol was voted the tournament's most valuable player, but praised the other members of his team. "Obviously I'm extremely happy at the outcome of the game - we've played amazingly well for the last five games and a half," Gasol told the BBC. "I'm super-proud of my team-mates and coaching staff who got us where we are today."


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Images show new dimension to Saturn's rings

September 22, 2009

NASA's Cassini orbiter has sent back remarkable images from Saturn, revealing that the planet's famous rings are far more bumpy than expected.

Astronomers previously thought that the rings were almost completely flat, with changes in height of only a few metres. However analysis of the new images show ridges up to 4 kilometres tall, similar in height to the Rocky Mountains or the Alps.

The images were taken around the planet's equinox on August 11, when the Sun was directly over Saturn's equator and caught the rings edge on. A similar equinox occurs today (September 22) on Earth. But whilst equinoxes occur twice a year on Earth, Saturn takes around 29.7 Earth years to orbit the Sun so the events are much rarer.

With the light from the Sun reaching Saturn's rings at such a low angle, scientists were able to measure the shadows cast by bumps on the rings and discover their surprising height. As Cassini project scientist Bob Pappalardo put it: "It's like putting on 3-D glasses and seeing the third dimension for the first time. This is among the most important events Cassini has shown us."

Some of the ring features are known to be caused by Saturn's moons, but others are harder to explain. "To understand what we are seeing will take more time, but the images and data will help develop a more complete understanding of how old the rings might be and how they are evolving," said Linda Spilker, Cassini deputy project scientist.

Cassini was launched in 1997, and entered orbit around Saturn in 2004. It is part of the Cassini-Huygens joint mission between NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency.


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Comments:Politicians and protesters prepare for G20 summit

What's for?
I consider that the Leif motive of the meeting is ofensive for the rest of countries. They are "rich" ones and because of that they are just going to show their best interest in help the rest of the countries, and internaly they are going to ensure they can be the rich ones for good. So I consider that for all the people that are dieing because of the lack of food, or because of the weapon they are selling, or even because the war the has started or promoted this is ofensive. It's offensive this capitalism that has worked good... for the rich of cause, and let the rest deep in the suffering. The conquer of others property is the reason, so let's supress it. That will end all the world problems.

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UK scientists advise heart attack-susceptible to get flu shot

September 22, 2009

United Kingdom scientists have published a report in the respected medical journal, The Lancet, indicating that those at-risk from heart disease or heart attack should receive the H1N1 flu vaccine when it becomes widely available in approximately one month.

The peer-reviewed study considered 39 prior research projects, concluding that as many as half of all flu-related deaths were the result of prior heart conditions. Among the data there were clear indications that use of a flu vaccine in at-risk patients significantly reduced the risk of heart attack as a result of a flu infection.

It is expected that around 2.5 million people in the UK will be offered a flu vaccine as they are considered at-risk. Including those with heart disease, and at risk of heart attack, asthma and diabetes sufferers will be targetted.


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Mr. Hurley's August 20, 2009 investment USF1 is highly inappropriate

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Lori Burger interview.
I was a personal friend of Anthony John Burger, I have been friends with him since I was 13 and he was 15 years old. Lori is not a BURGER she is a Apple. She is Gary Apple's daughter who sang with Jerry and the Goff. He is a Great man. So why would Lori and LuAnn lie!!! Anthony Burger has 2 son's A.J. and Austin by Eve Gray Howard who was Eva Burger. If your gonna put something on YouTube get your facts straight...... Eva stayed home and raised them boys while Anthony was on the road. I have a son I named after Anthony, we where the best of friends, when he meet Eva I loved her. Still do.... I also have a Grandson named Anthony Landon, we call him Landon since we call my son Anthony. Anthony before he passed got to see photo s of my Grandson, he was so happy. Miss you good friend. Also they had him roped off like Elvis at his Funeral, my friend I have known for over 30 years. I could not even hold his hand and say good bye. Love ya Anthony John Burger.


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Activists claim police harrassment as G20 summit nears

September 23, 2009

Two days before the beginning of the G20 summit in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania activists are already claiming harassment from police officers.

The ACLU is filing charges against the Pittsburgh Police Department after claiming that "more than 30 Pittsburgh police officers with semi-automatic weapons" raided a Seeds for Peace food truck in the middle of the night and demanded to search it even though they lacked a warrant. After refusing to allow them to search the truck, the suit claims, the officers then arrested the activists for two hours on loitering charges. Officers claim they raided the food truck for "national security" reasons.

Activist groups Seeds of Peace Collective and Three Rivers Climate Convergence denounced "systematic attempts to harass and discourage lawful First Amendment activities," after filing a complaint on Monday against the Pittsburgh Police Department. The suit focuses on three separate incidents that include the midnight raid on the truck, as well as several other citations given to owners of the vehicle at different points during the past two days.

The Seeds of Peace Collective drives a bus that runs on vegetable oil and was founded in 1986 to provide food and water to protesters.

"I'm not going to comment on [the ACLU lawsuit], nor will I, throughout this week, get into the back and forth of any organization that may decide to sue our police department or may decide to take us to court," said Pittsburgh mayor Luke Ravenstahl.

The collective was still able to provide food for 200 people yesterday at the Three Rivers Climate Convergence. "We got food out tonight. That brings my morale up," said Katy Kelly, with Seeds of Peace.

Protesters are coming to Pittsburgh this week to advocate everything from universal health care to an end to capitalism.


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Militants bomb school in northwestern Pakistan

September 22, 2009

Police in northwestern Pakistan said that suspected Taliban militants have blown up a primary school that educated girls on Tuesday. Officials say there were no casualties in the blast, which occurred on the outskirts the city of Peshawar, because the school was closed for the Eid al-Fitr holiday marking the end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

"The school building, which consisted of three rooms was destroyed in the blast," said Hamdullah Khan, a local police official. He said that the explosion was likely caused by a timed explosive device.

Al-Qaeda and Taliban-linked militants who oppose the education of women have destroyed hundreds of girls' schools across the country. Almost 200 schools were destroyed in the after a two-year campaign to enforce sharia law was made by, a radical Islam cleric. On Monday, police killed a suicide bomber trying to assassinate a regional education minister in the country's northwestern regions.

In other violence, Pakistani security forces say they have arrested eleven suspected militants, including three Afghanis, during security operations in and Swat districts. In a statement released Tuesday, officials say they also found four inter-linked tunnels and bomb-proof bunkers during a separate search operation near Swat's Biakand area.


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Renault F1 given suspended ban as boss barred after cheating

September 22, 2009

Following the Renault Formula One team's acceptance of a race-fixing charge, the team has been given a lifetime ban, suspended for two years. Team boss Flavio Briatore will never again be allowed to take any part in F1.

Although not a licence holder himself, the FIA, F1's governing body, has made it clear at yesterday's meeting of the World Motorsport Council that it will refuse to sanction any events Briatore is involved in or licence any F1 racers he works with. He did not attend the hearing in Paris.

Renault's ban will only be enforced if the team is found guilty of a similar offence in the next two years. Top engineer Pat Symonds was banned for five years. The decision not to kick Renault out of Formula One was largely due to mitigating factors, including the fact that Renault submitted additional evidence against itself after deciding not to contest the claims.

Retired British racing drive Damon Hill commented on the developments: "I'm not surprised they've let Renault off. It's a crying shame for the sport. Formula One has to ask itself, is it just a very expensive form of entertainment or a proper sport?"

Part of the evidence came from a team member identified only as Witness X. Witness X's identity is known only to a few within Formula One and the FIA, and testimony given by him or her included confirming that Briatore was fully aware of the race-fixing plan. Nelson Piquet Jr, the driver who deliberately crashed his car last year, was granted immunity as another whistleblower.


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Germany threatens to walk out of UN General Assembly if Ahmadinejad denies the Holocaust

September 22, 2009

A spokesman for the German government has announced plans to walk out of the United Nations if Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad denies the  in a speech he is due to give on Wednesday.

The spokesman said, "We will leave the hall if President Ahmadinejad denies the Holocaust or makes anti-Semitic statements ... we are making efforts toward a unified European position," going on to request a "common response" from other European Union member nations. , Israel's ambassador to the UN, also encouraged a boycott of Ahmadinejad's speech.

On Friday, Ahmadinejad gave a speech in which he called the Holocaust "a lie" and a "fairy tale". German Foreign Minister condemned the remarks, calling Ahmadinejad "a disgrace".

is a crime in Germany, where the carried out the Holocaust, a mass persecution and killing of Jews and, during World War II.


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Michael Jackson film "This Is It" to be premiered in at least 15 world cities simultaneously

September 23, 2009

Michael Jackson's This Is It, a documentary film based on world-famous singer Michael Jackson rehearsing for his last tour before his untimely death, will be premiered in at least 15 cinemas in cities all over the world simultaneously.

The film is due to premiere on October 27 and October 28. The world cities may be in different time zones with different dates but they will all be premiering the film at exactly the same time. One such premiere location is Los Angeles, in the US state of California, which will have the film starting at 1800 PT. Another simultaneity is the Odeon Leicester Square cinema in London, England, which will start at 0100 GMT on October 27.

Other locations holding concurrent premieres are the South African city of Johannesburg, New York City in New York, German capital Berlin, Russian capital city Moscow, Japanese capital Tokyo, Australian city Sydney, French capital Paris, South Korean city Seoul, and Rio de Janeiro, a large city in Brazil.

Michael Jackson died on June 25, 2009 aged 50, after suffering from a cardiac arrest. The movie will feature some of the rehearsal footage made in the weeks before his death. In total, there will be at least 25 cinemas premiering the film, but not all of them will be released simultaneously. Sony Pictures, the film production company, have yet to announce the other cities involved. Tickets for the film will be available to purchase from Sunday, September 27. The film is directed by Kenny Ortega, who previously directed all the High School Musical films. He also directed some significant Michael Jackson events, such as his This Is It concert and Jackson's memorial service.

Jeff Blake, chairman of worldwide marketing and distribution for Sony Pictures, said: "Michael Jackson has an army of fans everywhere around the world... we are giving the audiences an incredible opportunity to join together in celebration of Michael Jackson's incredible career."


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China promises cut in carbon dioxide emissions

September 22, 2009 Hu Jintao, the president of China, has promised to reduce carbon dioxide emissions produced by his country, one of the largest polluters in the world.

In a speech to world leaders at the United Nations' climate change summit in New York on Tuesday, the president said that China plans to receive 15% of its energy from renewable sources by 2020.

"We will endeavour to cut carbon dioxide emissions per unit of GDP by a notable margin by 2020 from the 2005 level," Hu said. He did not set a figure for the cuts, saying they will be made based on China's economic output.

Hu encouraged developing countries "to avoid the old path of polluting first and cleaning up later." He added that "they should not, however, be asked to take on obligations that go beyond their development stage, responsibility and capabilities."

Meanwhile, Japan's new Prime Minister, Yukio Hatoyama, told world leaders at the summit that his nation plans to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 25% from 1990 levels by 2020.

Prime Minister Hatoyama and President Hu also called for financial support from developed countries to help developing nations achieve climate change goals and sustainable development.

US President Barack Obama, who was also at the summit, encouraged all countries to work together to reduce their carbon emissions.

"Our generation's response to this challenge will be judged by history, for if we fail to meet it — boldly, swiftly, and together — we risk consigning future generations to an irreversible catastrophe. The time we have to reverse this tide is running out," he said.


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US soldier charged with murder in shooting of contractor in Iraq

September 22, 2009 A soldier from the United States is imprisoned in Hawaii charged with the murder of a civilian contractor in Iraq. Spc. Beyshee O. Velez is accused of shooting dead Lucas Vinson.

Vinson, 27, offered a ride to an American soldier who flagged his vehicle down on September 13, following which he was shot three times. He died of his wounds. At the time he was stationed at Contingency Operating Base Speicher near Tikrit and worked for KBR.

Vinson and 31-year-old Velez are both from Louisiana. Velez faces two alternate charges of murder, an assault charge and a charge of fleeing from authority. The maximum sentence he faces at his court martial if convicted is life imprisonment. Details on the shooting are scarce and the military says investigations are ongoing.


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User talk:113.29.215.136

Quit vandalising the Australian rules football article, or you will be blocked from editing. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

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UN
The UN is so messed up...they allow illegitimate leaders like Ahmadinejad to propagate anti-Semitic and racist beliefs, while refuse to acknowledge people like the President of the ROC that are actually elected in REAL elections and have actual legitimacy.

 * Thats the UN, if you hate jews you have a home. But if you support democracy gtfo!--75.74.61.245 (talk) 23:44, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

 * UN may be a joke but its the best we got, much better than US (or now china), just doing whatever they want and ignoring everybody else.--86.15.153.179 (talk) 14:51, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I think it's more like practical considerations, such as the fact that the PRC controls the Mainland whereas the ROC (Taiwan) controls an island, and Ahmadinejad is the leader of Iran, illegitimate or not. De facto status almost always triumphs de jure. --68.237.62.169 (talk) 23:59, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

 * If that were the case, wouldn't Taiwan be represented?

Trolls
When will politicians start learning from the internet? Disconnecting to avoid trolls is exactly what the kind of reaction they want. They know they's trollan, they know you know they's trollan. The UN needs to stand strong together and condemn Ahmadinejad's faggotry. He's a puppet, a figure head, and even he know's it: let him know you know it too. Let him speak, give him the respect he deserves as a national representative, and the minute he starts getting anti Semitic laugh his ass off the stage. Forget booing, forget being indignant, show the world how much you can't take this guy seriously.

Sage.

The Nazis also killed:

2–3 million Soviet POWs

1.8–2 million Ethnic Poles

220,000–1,500,000 Romani

200,000–250,000 Disabled

5,000–15,000 Homosexuals

2,500–5,000 Jehovah's Witnesses

Please do not forget them in any mention of The Holocaust.

'''Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the unneccesary comic figure of the political world. the recent election itself showed that his hold over his own country is slipping. to have the courage and come out in the open against a tyranical regime, itself shows that the people have lost what ever patience they had with this monkey.

and a monkey syndrome is exactly what he is suffering from. we should treat him just like that: a monkey. if we show all the attention, it makes him dance all the more.''' -221.135.57.2 (talk)

 * I made an edit as such and it was accepted, apparently there is still debate over what holocaust means, anyway the edit was accepted and the updated version says "jews and other minorities", perhaps just "minorities" or "minorities (indlucing jews)" would be better but after reading the wiki article on holocaust i felt that would be too controversial, but to discuss the wording i think collaboration is the appropriate "tab". (note: corrected your formatting).--86.15.153.179 (talk) 14:49, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The difference between the Jews and those other groups isn't a numerical thing as much as it is an intent thing. Hitler disliked those groups, but the Jews were specifically targeted, not for deportation, but for straight-out extermination. It was the culmination of millenia of anti-semitism, all curdled up into this one huge event. While there were non-Jews killed, the Holocaust is a uniquely Jewish event.

--Quantum mechanik (talk) 02:08, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that Ahmadinejad's ignorance of the Holocaust has been echoed by others primarily on "The Arab Street"... Is this minority opinion indicative of the state of public education in those countries?


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Welcome
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Audio - tools?
Hi, I see you doing a fair bit of audio stuff. What tools are you using for this? From listening to your recordings the one thing that sticks out to me is you either don't have a really quiet/near-dead space, or you've a pretty cheap microphone. (I'm still waiting for a friend to hand over the SM58 he's promised me). --Brian McNeil / talk 16:00, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Software wise, I'm using Audacity 1.2.6 for Windows. Hardware wise, I'm using a Trust MC-1300 microphone. I can't say my room is either dead quiet or my microphone is good quality, however in my view achieving my primary aim of reviving a project that currently seems to be dead in the water. Matthew Gall (talk) 17:06, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks for reading out Michael Jackson film "This Is It" to be premiered in at least 15 world cities simultaneously on Audio Wikinews. I was quite excited when I discovered the template on the article. And I don't really care about the equipment because you've been doing a great job so far. Thanks. --Rayboy8 (talk) 18:48, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Why thank you, it's nice to know what I'm doing is appreciated Matthew Gall (talk) 18:52, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

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User talk:Dvas

Welcome
Tempodivalse [talk]  01:25, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

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User talk:H8transformers

Welcome
Tempodivalse [talk]  01:26, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

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User talk:Xavexgoem/sandbox

April 23, 2009

Yesterday, the Senate Armed Services Committee released a report containing previously-unreleased memos concluding that CIA and DoD officials were already exploring the use of "enhanced interrogation" techniques in early 2002, eight months before Justice Department lawyers approved their use. Also released yesterday was a report by the Senate Intelligence Committee confirming that Bush administration officials, including Condoleeza Rice and John Ashcroft, had backed such tactics in secret meetings through June 2002. In the days following Rice's approval, the Justice Department had given the legal rationale for the use of waterboarding.

The evidence undermines claims made by several Bush-era officials that the events leaked from Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay were the result of "bad apples" from the bottom of both the CIA and the Pentagon's command structure. Says Carl Levin, chair of the intelligence committee: "The paper trail on abuse leads to top civilian leaders, and our report connects the dots."

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Al-Qaeda warns Saudi Arabia of attacks

September 25, 2009

Militant-activist group Al-Qaeda has recently issued new threats to Saudi Arabia of more attacks, incidentally following what appeared to be a suicide bomber's unsuccessful attempt to kill a Ryadh interior minister last month, Prince Mohammad bin Nayef.

A Middle East-based Al-Qaeda leader by the name of Abu Baseer al-Wuhayshi was heard saying the following on a video posted online: "If you can flee with your skin, then do so. By Allah, they will climb your walls and will come to you from where you do not expect."

"Our heroes have woven their grave-clothes with your blood," he went on. Nayef, who is also responsible for security affairs, was lightly injured in an August 27 attack that could have claimed his life. The bomber was a militant by the name of Abdullah bin Hassan bin Taleh Assiri, who came to meet him from Yemen to his personal residence. He claimed to wish to hand himself in and also assist a group of other Saudis in Yemen to return home. While making a phone call to one of them in the reception room where they were meeting, he blew himself up.

In the last few years, Saudi Arabia has been much a target of unrest prevalent in the Middle East. This attack was the first to be perpetrated by Al-Qaeda on a Saudi government official after a similar high-profile attack in 2004. It was also the first attack attempted on a member of the royal family.

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User talk:Jettieman

Welcome
Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 06:40, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikinews! Thanks for creating Bureau of Indian Education Details University Presiden. Unfortunately, it had to be deleted due to the fact that it met one of the criteria for speedy deletion. All articles on Wikinews have to be about news events, and I do not believe that your article reports on a news event.

I really hope that you choose to continue contributing to Wikinews, although I strongly suggest you read Wikinews' content guide and our guide to writing an article first.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at my talk page, or ask other contributers to Wikinews on our assistance page.

Thanks, Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 06:41, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

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User talk:Lannie~enwikinews

Welcome
Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 06:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Lannie. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Lannie~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:18, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
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User talk:Vampire seeking fresh human blood

Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 06:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


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User:Impuissant

Impuissant currently resides in the Philippines.

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User talk:Impuissant

Welcome
Brian McNeil / talk 09:13, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

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Red dust storm engulfs Sydney, Australia

September 23, 2009

A huge dust storm has covered much of New South Wales and southern Queensland, Australia, including the major cities of Sydney and Brisbane. The storm is causing eerie red skies, as well as breathing problems, traffic chaos, and flight cancellations.

Residents have described it as like "Armageddon" or "being on Mars".

Vulnerable people including children, the elderly, and those with respiratory illnesses have been warned to stay indoors, as air pollution levels soared. According to the New South Wales Department of Environment and Climate Change, PM10 (particulate matter) readings are at 15,500 micrograms per cubic metre. This is the highest since records began, and compares with normal readings of around 10 micrograms per cubic metre. Even a bushfire typically raises levels to only 500 micrograms per cubic metre.

The red dust plume is visible from space and, according to Dr John Leys of the NSW Department of Climate Change and Water, stretches 600 km along the coast, dropping 75,000 tonnes of dust into the sea every hour. The Bureau of Meteorology said it was the worst storm in 70 years.

The dust was caused by strong winds which lifted valuable top soil from the desert and drought affected areas by an intense low pressure system, which has also caused other extreme weather. Hail storms have smashed windows in New South Wales, with stones as large as cricket balls reported in Crookwell with large hail also reported in Wagga Wagga. Winds up to 100 km per hour are also predicted for Sydney.


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Talk:Activists claim police harrassment as G20 summit nears

NPOV?
"already claiming"? "everything from universal healthcare to an end to capitalism"? Anything can exist in the middle there :-p (albeit it would come largely from the left; I figure some libertarian and right-wings folks will be attending as well, particularly the anti-NWO theorists)

Interestingly, I can't tell the bias of this author... which is a good thing, but there's enough veering that someone on the left is going to say "this is a ring-wing attack piece", and folks on the right are going to say "this is left-wing attack piece" just by the reading the lede. Perhaps "already" from "already claiming" should be dropped? Xavexgoem (talk) 10:51, 24 September 2009 (UTC)


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User talk:Paresh~enwikinews

Welcome
Tempodivalse [talk]  12:36, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Paresh. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Paresh~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:20, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
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User talk:65.96.135.71

Warning on importing Wikipedia problems
This is Wikinews. Do not attempt to import disputes from Wikipedia or you risk being blocked for forum shopping and disruption. If you have a problem on Wikipedia, deal with it there. I have reverted your changes to Daniel's user page here and will do so again if you continue to use Wikinews as a platform to crusade for people to involve themselves in a dispute elsewhere. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:55, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

If you try this trick once more you will be blocked. Contribute to this project or get off it. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I thought he was an admin for Wikipedia.65.96.135.71 (talk) 13:39, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Re-read the above, and do so very, very carefully. It does not matter if he is a Wikipedia administrator or not. This is  not Wikipedia . --Brian McNeil / talk 13:47, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

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Template:Single source/doc

Usage

 * Please consider using Tasks instead.

This template should be used where an article has been created with a single source, and a reasonable time with no edits has passed to indicate this is unlikely to change. It should be added immediately to any article submitted for review with a single source.

An optional parameter may be specified when placing this template on an article page. Please fill this in where appropriate - such as a reaction to the noted point below.

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Talk:Carter: US "likely behind" Venezuela coup

Sourcing wikipedia?
I added "During the coup only the U.S and Chile recognised the pro US Pedro Carmona as interim president. " which is straight from wikipedia but it was removed as unsourced, what is the policy on sourcing stuff from wikipedia do I need to link to the wikipedia source or just the wikipage. --86.15.153.179 (talk) 13:19, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The same as anyone should have with Wikipeda - it is not a reliable source. You should use the sources it cites.
 * The problem is, it would be possible to check you sourced details from Wikipedia in good faith, but to pass the change as reasonably reviewed someone on Wikinews would have to verify the sources for the added details on the Wikipedia article.
 * Most of the regular Wikinews contributors are well aware of some horrible failings on the part of the mainstream press where they've looked no further than Wikipedia. There is a very strong drive to avoid that same mistake and, there should be, a better understanding of how a wiki works leading to less such errors. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:25, 25 September 2009 (UTC)


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Comments:Carter: US "likely behind" Venezuela coup

Well duh
Does an ex-president need to become captain obvious for Americans to be told the truth? In other news Jimmy Carter announces that Afghanistan probably would have handed over Osama Bin-Laded to a neutral country for trial? --86.15.153.179 (talk) 15:07, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

 * I would have to agree. President Carter is simply stating the obvious. I don't understand why some people are making such a fuss over this. -- Poe Joe (talk) 00:32, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

well, Duh?
Well, you may be aware that the United States engages in these activities but very, very few Americans are. Don't you think it is odd that this did not appear on any mainstream media today?

I was unaware of this new story until checking out wikinews. I didn't notice it on Fox, CNN or MSNBC this morning. Nor was it mentioned on my morning drive radio.
 * A lot of stories like this will get coverage on Al Jazeera - who are nowhere near as bad as some make them out to be. The interesting thing is to watch their news bulletins and see how many of their newscasting staff have come from the BBC, because they're trying to be the Arab World's answer to the BBC. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:47, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Carter is a discrace
Former President Carter is a disgrace to the nation, with all these remarks he is making now, he never was a good president anyways. --75.222.71.28 (talk) 01:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


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Pope Benedict XVI announces visit to United Kingdom

September 23, 2009

Pope Benedict XVI has announced that he will be coming to the United Kingdom in January 2010.

The information was announced that the Pope had accepted an invitation to visit the United Kingdom from Prime Minister Gordon Brown. The latter had visited the Vatican City three times and had invited the Pope to come to Great Britain in February 2009. Downing Street is expected to confirm the arrangements later today. This visit would make the first Papal visit to the UK since Pope John Paul II's visit in 1982. However, John Paul's visit was on a pastoral basis, so this is set to be the first state visit to the UK by a pope in that it is the first to follow an official invitation.

John Paul's six-day tour through England, Scotland and Wales was hugely popular, attracting hundreds of thousands of people from the Catholic religion. It became the first ever UK visit from the Pope, which will make Pope Benedict's visit the second papal one. John Paul's visit was likely to be cancelled due to the Falklands War and assasination attempts.


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User:Shoone

About
I am Shoone. Mostly I review things for ShakataGaNai and fix grammar/spelling related issues.

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User talk:Bahad78

Welcome
Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 18:01, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

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Comments:Deadly flash flooding hits northwestern Turkey

This is a pitty case for people living near this region. I know this devastated area that full of enterprises and factories. There are many different kind of factories most of are not registrated on muncipality or even they are registrated their plans are not proper for public improvements.


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Twelve killed by roadside bombs in Afghanistan

September 23, 2009

Police in Afghanistan say 12 civilians were killed in two roadside bombings in two days.

Seven civilians, including two young children, were killed Wednesday when their car struck a bomb in southern Kandahar province. Another roadside bombing killed five people in Farah province a day earlier, according to police spokesman Raouf Ahmadi.

In other violence, officials say 21 fighters were killed in an air strike by international forces in a remote area of southwestern Nimroz province.

Provincial Governor Ghulam Dagastir Azad said that the bombings targeted three militant vehicles that were reported to be traveling toward Afghan security posts along the border with Pakistan. He says that there were no civilian casualties.

According to a report released by the United Nations, at least 1,013 civilians were killed in the first half of this year, 60% of them due to militant attacks. The number is 24% higher than the same time period in 2008.


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User talk:Phil1096~enwikinews

Welcome
Tempodivalse [talk]  18:29, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Phil1096. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Phil1096~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:23, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
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Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Archive 3

Requests for Editor
Overwhelming consensus to promote to editor and close as speedy. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 22:14, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

note: previous nom somewhere in the archives around September ( I'm too lazy to find it I got off my but and found it: ) was closed not in his favour

So I was doing some stuff with php, with irc open in the corner and NewsWire spammed me: [08:18]		Published but needs re-review/sighting: Template:Lead article 5 - http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:Lead_article_5 When i went to sight the template, i noticed it was Rayboy8 who edited it. I thought it was very weird that he didn't have editor privs yet, he's written quite a lot, and been here for quite a while now, and i believe he has resolved the issues he had with copyvio's back in september. To that end i'd like to nominate Rayboy8 for editor privs. (I think this is the first time i've actually nominated someone for something).

Votes

 * Bawolff ☺☻ 12:37, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * User seems to have learned thelessons of contributing well enough. People put off by last time remember: This is meant to be easy come, easy go. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:12, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * --Pi zero (talk) 13:16, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * was thinking of nominating Rayboy for this, but you saved me the trouble. :-P Constructive, helpful user, should do well with editor privs. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:11, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * -- the wub "?!"  14:12, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Benny the mascot (talk) 14:21, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * as user has shown patience waiting for second nomination and improved writing skills noticeably in their time working on the project. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:33, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * --Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 18:50, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * - the past is the past, and you've proven you can be trusted. Den dodge  T\C 18:57, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

 * The following discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.  No further edits should be made to this discussion.

No consensus to promote. – Juliancolton  | Talk 04:31, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

In my 60 edits to date, I've both corrected errors in existing articles (including one case where "employment" was used in place of "unemployment"!) and accurately and usefully reported new items (e.g. Ontario, Canada celebrates Family Day, Ontario may adopt new voting system and Dungeons & Dragons co-creator Gary Gygax dies). I know what makes a good revision of an article, and as an editor I'll be able to put that knowledge to use. Seahen (talk) 05:05, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Your contributions have been a bit scattered and rare, so what exactly would you do with these new permissions? Benny the mascot (talk) 01:12, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Would have preferred a few more recent contributions, to make sure that user is fully familiar with current Wikinews practice, but his previous works seems to be ok and I think he can be trusted. Tempodivalse [talk]  19:09, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Last call for more input! The reason i haven't closed this earlier is because there was only one supporter (me), so i wanted more clear consensus before making a decision. This has been open for way too long now, though, so if there aren't any objections in the next 24 hours, I'll promote. Tempodivalse [talk]  19:10, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I see your point, but you actually closed my request for permissions with only one support vote. I'd like to see consistency in this process. Benny the mascot (talk) 22:38, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I suppose so. I closed your request without other opinion mainly because you were more active than user:Seahen and demonstrated more of a need to have the tool (plus, I didn't see any reason why anyone should oppose you, whereas this one is a bit more borderline, considering he doesn't have many edits and isn't active). You're probably right, though, that it should be more consistent. Maybe we should create a guideline that says how many minimum supports are needed for promotion? Tempodivalse [talk]  23:47, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The fact that you close requests for permissions based partly on your personal opinions of the nominee automatically introduces bias into this entire process! In my opinion, you shouldn't have postponed the closure of Seahen's request simply because you don't know him that well. I think a minimum number of votes is necessary for a discussion to close. Would 3 be ok? Benny the mascot (talk) 01:18, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Bureaucracy = evil. Traditionally bureaucrats have some leeway on borderline cases such as this and i don't see whats wrong with that. Otherwise we'd have bots closing these things. Tempo judged that the vote might not reflect community opinion, so added a "last call". (Which based on late comments would seem to be the right call) Your editor request was much less out of the ordinary, given your in the class of users we'd call "active". (by active i mean, most people would know you existed). Although it is unwritten, the primary criteria for editor privileges is that we (we = most wikinewsies) know who you are, and we don't have any reason to mistrust you. Bawolff ☺☻ 02:09, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Bawolff pretty much sums up my thoughts. Plus, requesting editor status isn't as serious a process as, say, adminship; requests are pretty informal, and the user right can be taken or removed by any sysop and is supposed to be "easy come, easy go". Perhaps I was wrong in not asking for second opinions on your RfE, I dunno, but it seemed much more straightfoward/obvious than this request. Tempodivalse [talk]  02:22, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I can see why you did what you did. However, if I can become an editor with one support vote in a week but Seahen can't, then this entire process is inherently unfair to Seahen. Bureaucrats, in my opinion, should never allow their personal opinions to affect the way they close a debate. Unfortunately, this probably happened in both this and my RfE. Benny the mascot (talk) 00:08, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If I may weigh in, I think Tempo's decision here was the right one—this definitely needed to stay open for longer. However, yours should also have been re-opened, in my opinion (though I don't doubt that the result would have been the same)—one vote is not enough to judge consensus, but in this case I don't think the discrepancy has affected the outcome of the discussions by any great amount so the damage is limited. Den dodge  T\C 01:13, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

 * Can't remember seeing this username in recent changes anytime recently. Not aware of proof to judge if they should have privilege. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm on the edge on this one. On one hand, the user has demonstrated he is not whiley on wheels. On the other hand this user has only made three edits (4 if you include the edit to this page) since we've adopted flagged revisions. I would certainly be willing to change my mind at a later date if this user becomes a little more active. (I might also be willing to take into account contributions to other projects if they are significant). Bawolff ☺☻ 20:02, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * —sorry, but not enough recent activity to justify the flag. Den dodge  T\C 20:38, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I disagree with the opinions of the opposition. Editors must be aware of our content guidelines, and this user seems to qualify based on that description. We would be setting a dangerous precedent if we judged each other on the frequency of our contributions. Benny the mascot (talk) 22:35, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It is one thing to contribute irregularly, but another entirely to have made only three edits since flagged revisions were introduced. Den dodge  T\C 22:39, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Pretty much side with Dendodge on this. I saw this, went "who?"; I saw the reminder, went "who?". There's not much time when I've not been active in the last five years, and Flagged Revisions is new. I do not want a, "just in case I need to publish a friend's piece" case on the committee. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:38, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Editors aren't required to remain in touch with the community, however. Seahen seems to know what makes a good article, so I see no harm in granting him the priveleges. Benny the mascot (talk) 02:00, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No, they aren't. But, some have been cautioned about potential to lose the privilege for not actually doing basic copyedit work and publishing with spelling errors. If this user gives me a clear indication they can work within and respect current rules far, far, different from when they've contributed articles, I have no problem. That initial review has to stay at a high standard, and an awful lot of the prior self-published stuff is pretty dire; many examples of "publish, then someone will help me fix it". --Brian McNeil / talk 14:23, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * for now with no prejudice for reapplying when contributor is more active. The lack of contributions is a problem for me. I can accept a low level, but this low, sorry, no. --Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 13:26, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page, such as the current discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Been no objections for over a week, i think it's safe to close this as a pass. Congrats! Tempodivalse [talk]  01:58, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi. I've had the opportunity to write seven articles so far, and I really like this project. I ask for editor status so that I could help with the reviewing process. Benny the mascot (talk) 20:50, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Seems to have gotten down our policies well, can be trusted. Tempodivalse [talk]  21:22, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Closed as withdrawn, per request. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:35, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Result

Hi, this is Srinivas. I am user mainly editing on Wikipedia but I manage to take time in editing Wikinews as I found it very interesting. I have over 4,000 edits on Wikipedia along with the rollback right, and some 300 edits here. See my list of articles here. Tempodivalse said that I can request for editor though I wanted to wait till December. I must have a mistake here and there but I think I have never abused my privileges and Wikinews. I think I can contribute better with this Editor privilege. Thank you, Srin  ivas  09:49, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Let us stop this process right here. I have understood that I am not capable of the status right now, but I will surely come back with new spirit and life next month to request this status. Thank you, Srin  ivas  12:46, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Comments - Questions

 * Special:ListGroupRights says that Editor comes packaged with rollback. So, can I use Huggle once I have editor rights? Srin  ivas  09:49, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It doesn't work here. But there's not much need for it, we don't have as serious a vandalism problem as Wikipedia. the wub "?!"  10:42, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The wub is right. Huggle isn't configured to work here, and there's really no need for it, as we get very little vandalism anyway (usually only 6-7 changes per day need to be reverted). Tempodivalse [talk]  14:13, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Per above, Huggle will not work here, and I think that is a good thing. I'd be very unhappy seeing people running around with anti-vandalism tools where there is minimal vandalism. This tool does not seem to be aware of Flagged Revisions which could have disastrous consequences were Huggle misused. If there becomes a reasonably clear need for this tool to be used here then clear functional specifications for needed changes should be agreed first. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:23, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

 * How confident are you in your knowledge of the style guide? Are you confident that — if reviewing an article and performing appropriate copyedit prior to publication — you will pass articles that comply with WN:SG and are grammatically correct?
 * I am confident 4/5 to be truthful! Srin  ivas  14:30, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I asked because I noted your work on this the other day. Several edits made, but never renamed to the WN:SG standard of downstyle. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:13, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * User has written a few good articles, and will do well with the editor bit, methinks. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:13, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * —the user seems competent to me. Den dodge  T\C 17:15, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

 * I'm not sure if this user is fully aware of the standard layout of articles. If you view the first revision histories of this article, Srinivas categorised the article into Category:Wackynews and Category:Obituaries. While I personally didn't confront this as "wackynews", the second category is definitely irrelevant. My claims can be wrong though - maybe it could've been an error? Rana (talk) 11:00, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I totally agree that I did a mistake but sorry if I have offended you, but, we all learn through mistakes. Now that I have done this mistake, I have learnt what is obituaries, about death. Tempodivalse has corrected the mistake. To be frank, I never repeat the mistakes I have done. (I may have again by mistake! :P) Thanks for pointing it out, Rana, I will keep that in mind. Srin  ivas  13:32, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

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 * per concerns raised by, plus other investigation of that article. I am particularly concerned that someone be able to review an article and not know what an obituary is — so a little more work needed to improve my confidence. A side-issue that everyone who worked on that article should chastise themselves for is that Kilimanjaro is a redirect. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * —sorry, but I have had a closer look at your contributions and am not sure you are quite ready yet. Your English is the main problem, it seems (I understand that English may not be your first language, but this job requires a slightly better command of the language), with problems being unusual sentence construction and lack of knowledge of the meanings of words (obituary, for example). I am sorry, but I'm not quite sure you are ready just yet. Try again in a month or so. Den dodge  T
 * --I'm afraid the concerns highlighted above have made me a tad unsure. I think if you could demonstrate that you had learned and improved and try again in a month, then there's no reason why I would oppose.  Good luck and keep it up!     Tris   20:10, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Successful. Tempodivalse [talk]  18:03, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

AlexandrDmitri is a solid contributor who seems to have gotten down the basics of article writing. I think he'd do well with the editor tools. Tempodivalse [talk]  18:46, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Do you accept the nomination? Tempodivalse [talk]  18:46, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you Tempodivalse, I indeed do accept the nomination. Just to explain my recent lack of edits: I have people staying with me at the moment and I have had to concentrate on them for a while, although I do check in regularly. However until they leave this Thursday Sunday I won't have the time to write any new articles, though can help with copyediting, sighting minor changes or reviewing. Regards --Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 18:58, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

 * as nominator. Tempodivalse [talk]  18:46, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * —no reason not to. Den dodge  T\C 20:25, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * – Juliancolton  | Talk 20:28, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I just gave this user a "bug" (as he says) to edit wikinews and today I can't believe my eyes. He has become such a great user and has been complimented upon as good himself by Tempodivalse. I obviously have to support. :) Srin  ivas  10:17, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * . User has created and made significant contributions to several articles. Has taken on criticism, improved standard of writing, demonstrated ability to quickly pick up WN:SG and write in a news style. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:27, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Requesting because I would like to help with the publishing process (not the self-publishing process, mind you). I have several articles under my belt. Marx01  Tell me about it 04:00, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * --RockerballAustralia (talk) 04:07, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Trusted user, seems to be familiar with the style guide. Tempodivalse [talk]  13:47, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * —seems competent to me. Den dodge  T\C 16:20, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:55, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Unsuccessful, there's no support to promote. Sorry Tempodivalse [talk]  16:16, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * requesting at the suggestion of Brian McNeil from today -- House1630 (talk) 18:39, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

 * I'd like to see a bit more article contributions from you before handing out the tools. Because editors are able to publish articles and get articles listed on Google News, they need to have a good understanding of the style guide so that they can determine what's up to par to be published. You've only written one article so far, which I don't think is sufficient to demonstrate knowledge of this. I'd likely support if you wrote several good articles that comply with WN:SG. Tempodivalse [talk]  18:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You did not even know this existed until yesterday; need much more confidence in familiarity with policies and MoS. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:02, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I agree. Perhaps in a couple weeks? – Juliancolton  | Talk 00:23, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * —sorry, but you are still too inexperienced. I suggest a "not now" closure, and that you come back in a couple of weeks (less than a month of editing consistently and in line with policies should be enough—we don't ask for much!) Den dodge  T\C 20:40, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

 * Rerequesting at the suggestion of Brian McNeil on IRC. Just trying to help out --RockerballAustralia (talk) 07:03, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

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 * Around a month without it - enough punishment for one self-publish; unlikely to reoffend, knows policy - esp WN:SG. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:10, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * One month was enough for RA to learn from his mistakes, and i'm pretty sure he won't misuse the tool again. He's got good knowledge of WN:SG, and we really need extra reviewers. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:13, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Easy come, easy go. I'm pretty sure I was one of the few supporters last time around, too. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:10, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * --As above    Tris   15:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * – Juliancolton  | Talk 00:26, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * for the same reasons as last time. Den dodge  T\C 09:06, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

 * I'm re-granting this, but one point... Rockerball you lost this, and once everyone stopped shouting at you it was no big deal. You should probably have got it back quicker, but whatever. Can I ask you to keep an eye out for really new people asking for Editor and putting yourself forward as an example of - not so much abusing it - as stepping out of line in a way that caused an upset. This is still new, English Wikipedia still hasn't got it, and when they get it on a few articles it will spread. So it's alien to all but the very small number hitting their policy pages. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

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There have been concerns that my reviewing of a recent article was inappropriate - see this post on my talk page. Basically, I reviewed and published a bot-created VOA article after adding a second source, without any third-party oversight. I'm not sure that what I did was bad, but I'd like to check if I still have the continued support of the community as a reviewer. Tempodivalse [talk]  21:29, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * retention of status. A mistake, but not enough to even consider removing your rights. Support closing quickly --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 21:46, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * maintaining the status. No, fixing that up made you far too involved since effectively it's only seen one human check it against our standards - review requires at least two (i.e. one to write to our standards and one to review). No, it screwing up once shouldn't spell the end. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:00, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You needeth not reconfirm yourself. Brian bopped you on the nose, called it a day.   The short version is this is new to all of us, and a little fuzzy.  You're not doing much work to VOA articles, but you are supposed to make sure it is NPOV... that is really the Big Deal™ with those articles, so we need some else to make sure the NPOV is... NPOV.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 22:07, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Closed as unsuccessful, not enough support to promote. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:26, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

A great newcomer who has already done much to help the project and learnt very quickly how stuff works around here. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:06, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Comments and questions

 * Ali, do you accept my nom? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:06, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I accept. Thank you for the offer. Ali Rana (talk) 05:14, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

 * -- Poe Joe (talk) 00:41, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * -- RockerballAustralia (talk) 01:53, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure this user has a complete knowledge of the style guide. A few of Ali Rana's articles have had some problems with them, such as containing a single source (for instance Al-Qaeda warns Saudi Arabia of attacks) or not meeting other stylistic standards (such as Baitullah Mehsud is alive: Hakeemullah). Don't get me wrong - your contributions are much appreciated - but having a good knowledge of the style guide is very important as an "editor", since you'll get to determine which articles are good enough to be displayed on the front page. However, I'll be more than happy to support if you can write two or three articles that demonstrate you're fully familiar with WN:SG. Tempodivalse [talk]  02:10, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * --per Tempodivalse-happy to change if you prove me wrong.    Tris   07:29, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the late reply; I apparently had some commitments. Tempodivalse, your concerns are valid and I have tried to address them. Regarding the article Al-Qaeda warns Saudi Arabia of attacks, I was aware of the single-source issue and I have now added three new sources. I am also working on 2009 ICC Champions Trophy: Pakistan vs West Indies, which I just created. Please take a look and offer suggestions/concerns/criticism etc. Cheers. Ali Rana (talk) 16:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

 * This user does not know policies and the principles behind them well enough. A recent contribution I looked at considering to review is a good example here. The article cited two sources (different websites) which were from the same wire report. The response to me labelling this single source was to find and add other sources with no changes to the article itself. A key concern with single source is potential for copyright violation, this does not deal with it and is avoiding an issue the project works to make a non-issue. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:38, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, just to get to the bottom of this, I will recount the message that was printed on the single-source textbox:

The two cited sources are the SAME report, word-for-word identical opening paragraphs . This was supposedly (or confirmedly) written by you. I am assuming that the main concern was the fact that the sources which were independently confirming the news report were single sources i.e. word-to-word copy of each other, when there should be diverse sources to confirm the news. If you read the first sentence i.e. "Using multiple independent sources is strongly encouraged, as they would help independently confirm the news events," it clearly mentions providing multiple sources as a means of independent confirmation of the report. It was from that intention I added the links. Note that I have in no way made a move to publish the article yet - it is still on review status and open for editing. Perhaps some of the issues would have been resolved if more editors were keen to improve it - after all, this is supposed to be a collaborative place. Ali Rana (talk) 17:58, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * —I had stayed out of this debate deliberately, as I did not know whether to support or oppose and did not have enough to say in a neutral comment. However, the above has made up my mind. While I do not doubt your good intentions and your ability, I am afraid that you may not quite understand our policies to the level at which we can place our Google News listing in your hands. Come back after a month or two of article-writing. Sorry! Den dodge  T\C (en.wp) 20:11, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Successful. Tempodivalse [talk]  17:50, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Por favor Soapy (talk) 05:23, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

 * provided you are prepared to copyedit articles to meet WN:SG standards prior to publication, and where needed rename before a nonstandard or plain awful title is forever archived in Google News. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:41, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Tempodivalse [talk]  20:09, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Den dodge  T\C (en.wp) 20:12, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:19, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Closed as no consensus. There doesn't seem to be enough support to promote, sorry Tempodivalse [talk]  17:08, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Same reasons as last time - help clear the backlog as I'm nearly always on here. As for self publishing - I'll take it off site --RockerballAustralia (talk) 04:41, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

 * He had editor last time for, what, a day? two? And it was only removed last on Sept 20, which was all of 3 weeks ago. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 06:41, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I said I'd work out the issues. This I believe I've done that. If I don't get it this time, no biggy --RockerballAustralia (talk) 08:27, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * on the condition that you promise never to self-publish articles again. Editor status is supposed to be "easy come, easy go", and i think a few weeks was enough for RA to learn his lesson. Tempodivalse [talk]  13:03, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * - Unfortunatly I can not support at this time. However i do believe that Rockerball is not malicious, he just lacked good judgement at certain times, thus this is an abstain, and not an oppose. (I would perhaps support at a later date). Bawolff ☺☻ 13:08, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * —I think RA has learnt his lesson, and I'm sure he will do fine with the tool now that he knows not to self-publish. I promised I would support if he tried again when I !voted in his removal discussion, and I stand by that now. However, should RA misuse the editor privilege again, I will strongly oppose any further attempts he makes to regain the tool—twice is one time too many for forgiveness. Den dodge  T\C 15:48, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I do second chances. I say this user deserves one, for sticking through with Wikinews despite the problems he's had coming here. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:14, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * - Per the user rights log, there was strong consensus to remove flag only as recent as a little over 2 weeks ago. I think some more time and experience in-between would be appropriate. Cirt (talk) 20:13, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Closed as withdrawn. Tempodivalse [talk]  02:09, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

I am sysop in en.wiki, editor in de.wiki autoreviewer in pt.wiki and autoeditor in ru.wiki. I haven't done any(!) edits in en.wikinews yet but I may do in the short future. (Mainly minor edits). -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:36, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

 * While I trust you not to abuse editor privileges, based on your status on other projects, I'd like to see you make some more edits, or create a few articles, so I can tell that you have knowledge of our core policies and guidelines. Because editors can review and publish articles, and "sight" the edits of other users, in my opinion they need to demonstrate that they know our most important policies. If you were to write two or so articles, or make a few dozen edits in the main namespace, to prove you have at least a little knowledge of these policies (especially the style guide), I'd be happy to reconsider and support. Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  00:20, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Try to familiarize yourself with Wikinews first, then I'll support your request. Benny the mascot (talk) 00:23, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * - Trusted user, no doubt, but I'd like you to become familiar with wikinews' style guidelines and such,. – Juliancolton  | Talk 05:24, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. No problem. Thanks for the advice. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:52, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

 * There's no way a user with no edits can be trusted with these tools. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:01, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Withdraw. I;ll do some edits first. Merry Christmas! :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:38, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Result: user was deflagged, per strong consensus below to remove the bits. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:54, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

User self-published the article Australian rules football: West Gippsland Latrobe Football League Grand Final, with a review comment "out of impatiance and anger". Regardless of whether an article has been sitting in the review queue for a long time or not, self-publishing is flatly against the rules - and this was not an accident. imho, such violation of site policy is enough to merit a deflagging. Sorry RA. Tempodivalse [talk]  00:50, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

 * as nominator and per my above statement, unfortunately. Tempodivalse [talk]  13:00, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

 * The long waiting time for review is why I was requested Editor status. It is my understanding that newish users (those who are new to this project} would get frustrated by this wait time. This is IMHO a big problem.

 * I should point out that when I am "impatiant and angry" I tend not to think of the consequences of my actions. So I feel I need to appologise for that self publish mentioned by Tempodivalse.

 * My suggestion is to address the underlying issue (that of long wait for reviews).--RockerballAustralia (talk) 01:10, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

 * sterotypical WN:POINT. It is concerning that he did this so soon after recieving editor privs. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:42, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * review log of the page in question. Bawolff ☺☻ 01:51, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

 * unfortunately. Extremely disappointing. – Juliancolton  | Talk 02:40, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

 * as per my comments above. I made a mustake and reitterate my apology for as stated above. --RockerballAustralia (talk) 03:32, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * removal, per . Cirt (talk) 04:58, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I do not believe I am entitled to a vote due to me only being active here for one week of a year. However, when I was here last time, it was also a slow wait for articles to be reviewed. I am all for second chances, as Rockerball made one simple misjudgement, which has been corrected. If it happens again, I'd support a removal, but I do not see why one offence = removal. Again, this is not a vote on my part. -- DizzyStar (talk) 05:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * - sorry Rockerball, I'm sure you had good intentions, and I'm all for second chances (I've had a few), but this was not an accident, and the sentence "I should point out that when I am 'impatiant and angry' I tend not to think of the consequences of my actions" makes me feel slightly uneasy. <tt>editor</tt> is easy come, easy go, and I would not oppose you running again in a couple of weeks. Sorry! Den dodge T\C(en.wp) 08:29, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * good intentions indeed. i asked for it 'cause i wanted to help clear ay review baklog there was. --RockerballAustralia (talk) 09:03, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

 * It is one thing to seek to clear the backlog, but you know full well you don't self publish to do it. I am highly sympathetic to your anger and frustration getting the better of you, as I've done that off-wiki, but the fact remains that if it does get to you, you shouldn't have the tool. I will, however, say that I hope I speak for the project when I accept your apology above. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 11:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but self-review is totally unacceptable. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:46, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * -We have all been in a position where it takes ages for your article to be reviewed & by that time it can be out of date. However, unfortunately, self-reviewing is not an answer to this.     Tris   17:07, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll conceed that I'm going to lose this tool. To be clear, I'm soughting out the anger and impatiance (the underlying issues), then re-requesting the editor tool when I beleive I've sought those things out.--RockerballAustralia (talk) 22:15, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Closed as withdrawn. Tempodivalse [talk]  02:08, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

I've supported the removal of Eloquence's administrative and bureaucratic powers here, but I also believe that he should no longer be an editor. Allowing him to keep his editor rights would prevent us from being editorially independent of the WMF. Benny the mascot (talk) 22:18, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * as nominator Benny the mascot (talk) 01:55, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * , per the reasoning I've provided at his deadminship reqeust. Tempodivalse [talk]  02:34, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Does this really need to be spread out so much, lets just make the de-adminship request be a Should we remove all rights from our beloved founder type of request. I am doubtful that people will vote differently between the two. (and if they want to they still can). Bawolff ☺☻ 04:03, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed, this is fragmenting discussion unnecessarily, imo. Perhaps it would be better just to add an addendum to WN:RFP noting that Editor status is also being decided there. Tempodivalse [talk]  04:31, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Withdraw. I'll amend the first discussion. Benny the mascot (talk) 04:35, 23 December 2009 (UTC)


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Chess grandmasters Kasparov and Karpov play match in Spain

September 23, 2009

Anatoly Karpov and Gary Kasparov, two former chess world champions, are playing a twelve-game match against each other in Valencia, Spain, to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the first world championship match between the two.

As of Wednesday, two of the twelve games had been completed. Kasparov had won both games, which were held at a "rapid" time control, 25 minutes per player per game, with three seconds added after each move.

"I didn't know whether my instincts would work," said Kasparov after winning the first two games.

Kasparov, 46, is said to have an advantage over Karpov, 58, due to his younger age. Kasparov, however, said, "I wouldn't make any predictions yet [on the outcome of the match]. Karpov was and still is a great opponent. I have to find out whether I will be able to keep my calm."

The games are estimated to have been watched by up to ten million chess fans on the internet. The website hosting the games temporarily had to shut down due to high traffic.

In 1984, Karpov and Kasparov played for the world championship title in what would become an iconic match. Karpov was defending his title against the challenger, Kasparov. The match was suspended after five months and 48 games, as neither player was able to gain enough of a lead to determine a clear winner.


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Review of revision 886224 [Passed]
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Add the following categories to the list: Spirituality, Christianity and Pope Benedict XVI. --Rayboy8 (talk) 20:39, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

 * ✅ except for Spirituality because that category doesn't exist. Tempodivalse [talk]  01:22, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

editprotected Please add Category:2010 Papal UK tour. Thanks -- Rayboy8 ( my talk ) ( my contributions ) 13:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

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New Michael Jackson song to be released

September 24, 2009

A new Michael Jackson single and compilation album is going to be released in October of this year.

"This Is It" is the name of what would have been Michael Jackson's tour, the name of his documentary film, and now a new single and compilation album — both titled "This Is It" — which will be released from his record label Sony Music Entertainment. Sony Music confirmed the plans to release the new two-disc compilation album and single. John McClain, who co-produced the album, said: "This song only defines, once again, what the world already knows — that Michael is one of God's greatest gifts."

The single will become available from October 12 this year. It is unknown when exactly it was written and recorded although it has been recently reported that he had been working with such artists as Akon and Will.i.am before his death on June 25, 2009. The track features backing vocals from Jackson's brothers and will also feature on the compilation album.

The compilation album will be released internationally on October 26 and in North America on October 27 — just one day before the documentary film will be released. The album will have two discs. The first disc will feature some of Jackson's greatest hits, with the "This Is It" single being the last song. The second disc will feature previously unreleased versions of some of the songs from the singer's catalogue of big hits. The CD will also contain a 36-page commemorative booklet featuring photos of Michael Jackson from his last "This Is It" rehearsals.

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This is Nuzfly User Talk Page...... currentl;y under research.... check back later for details..... 09/24/09

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OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE. STOP KILLING EACH OTHER, PEOPLE.


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Lightning strikes kill three in Mumbai

September 24, 2009

Several people were killed by lightning after thunderstorms struck Mumbai, India on Tuesday evening. Three people, including a woman, were killed and a twelve-year-old boy was hurt by the lightning in Navi Mumbai. The woman had been injured while selling lampshades on the street, and a third victim was also hurt while parking his motorcycle, trying to get out of the rain. The three were hospitalised immediately, but were declared dead upon arrival. The boy is currently undergoing treatment.

Lightning was also seen in Kurla, Kalbadevi, Chembur, and Bandra-Kurla Complex, but according to the fire brigade no one was injured from those strikes. There was no water logging despite the heavy rains.

Trains on Central Railway were affected by the weather and were half an hour behind schedule. The problem started around 07.00 p.m. Mumbai Time (+330 UTC) and lasted until almost 10.00 p.m. Flights were also delayed; 12 flights, including six Air India and two Kingfisher, were diverted to Ahmedabad as the pilots could not land at the Mumbai airport.

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