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Nigeria swears in new president after death of Umaru Yar'Adua

May 6, 2010 Goodluck Jonathan, the acting president of Nigeria, was formally sworn in today, several hours after president Umaru Yar'Adua died.

The oath of office was administered in the capital. According to the constitution, Jonathan will be the country's leader until next elections next April; he is also to nominate a vice president, who must be approved by the senate.

Jonathan already has been running the country when he became acting president since February, when Yar'Adua was hospitalised in Saudi Arabia for medical treatment.

After being sworn in, Jonathan made an address. "While this is a major burden on me, and indeed the entire nation, we must — in the midst of such great adversity — continue to gain our collective efforts towards upholding the values which our departed leader represented [...] One of the true tests will be that all votes count, and are counted, in our upcoming presidential election," he said.

Yar'Adua, aged 58, was buried earlier in the state; the government has declared a week of mourning.


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Pirate party
It seems all the election results are bad. I can't find a mention of the Pirate party for example. At the very least make a table of all the parties showing a % vote of the complete elections or something. Often they simply undemocratically mention "others". I can understand that in gallup polls, sure, but not in official election records. There's no "others" party.

 * Remind me, how many seats are held by the Pirate Party? Oh yeah, none. Every party that won a seat is either represented or in a constituency that the table is yet to be updated for. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:29, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

What About Northern Ireland?
I noticed that, while a few seats have been declared for NI, only one (Belfast East) is represented in the table. --Dialh (talk) 00:29, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * We're still busy updating the tables; due to the large size of the page, editing the page is somewhat time-consuming. Please feel free to help add new results to the table. Tempodivalse [talk]  00:33, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Broadcast report
Most of the information used in this article was gained from the live BBC1 broadcast of the election results on the night of 6–7 May 2010, which I and a number of other users on IRC watched. Δεν δοδγε  τ\c 22:18, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Votes?
For the votes column, is it the votes overall in the constituency or only the votes for the winning party?--Dialh (talk) 02:43, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * For the winner. -- Mike moral  ♪♫  02:43, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

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Crikey, yes! A sysop with a few minutes to spare should call by, check, and fix all this. --InfantGorilla (talk) 06:13, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Yes_check.svg|link=|alt=|16px]] Done — Fixed, alone with other formatting errors (inconsistent use of comma dividers, missing percent signs). I'm disappointed that this was missed in review. Gopher65talk 13:34, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

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US stocks see 9% drop before making recovery

May 7, 2010 US stock markets saw an unusually turbulent day yesterday, with the (DJIA) losing almost a thousand points in thirty minutes, although later recovered somewhat to end the day with a smaller loss.

The DJIA had its worst fall since 1987, a drop of 9% or 998.50 points, before going back up a bit to close with a loss of 3.30% or 347.80 points to a level of 10,520. The fell 82.65 points or 3.44%, and the  index dropped 3.24% or 37.75 points.

According to some reports, the quick loss happened because a trader mistyped an order to sell a large amount of stock, causing the stock price to go down enough to trigger orders to sell elsewhere in the market. (By the following day this theory had been abandoned.) Other reports suggested that the biggest markets "slowed" their executions when it became clear that computerized errors were occurring; as a result, the vast majority of buy orders were briefly withdrawn, allowing the free-fall to continue for several minutes.

Stock for the company fell almost 37% during the sell-off, about 75 minutes to the closing bell. An investigation started into whether any erroneous trades happened.

Procter & Gamble spokeswoman Jennifer Chelune spoke about the incident: "We don't know what caused it. We know that that was an electronic trade [...] and we're looking into it with Nasdaq and the other major electronic exchanges."

The Reuters news agency reports that, at their height, the losses cause equity values to lose $1 trillion.

Some stocks saw extreme, but short, changes; for instance, consulting firm saw its shares plummet from about $42 to four cents, although it later rebounded to close the day at $41.09.

Meanwhile, prices also dropped to lows not reached since February. Benchmark crude was down $2.86 to $77.11 in New York.

"The potential for giant high-speed computers to generate false trades and create market chaos reared its head again today," said Delaware senator. "The battle of the algorithms — not understood by nor even remotely transparent to the — simply must be carefully reviewed and placed within a meaningful regulatory framework soon." Kaufman, along with senator from Virginia, called on Congress to investigate the cause of the mass sell-offs.

Nasdaq, meanwhile, says that all trades of stocks at prices 60% higher or lower than the preceding price at or around 2.40 PM "or immediately prior" are to be cancelled; it noted that it coordinated its move with the other exchanges.

Chief investment officer at Fort Pitt Capital Group Charlie Smith said: "I think the machines just took over. There's not a lot of human interaction. We've known that automated trading can run away from you, and I think that's what we saw happen today."

In the past three days, the DJIA has lost 631 points, or 5.7%, mainly over concerns about Greece's ailing, debt-burdened economy. Peter Boockvar an equity strategist for Miller Tabak, commented: "The market is now realizing that Greece is going to go through a depression over the next couple of years. Europe is a major trading partner of ours, and this threatens the entire global growth story."


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Voters turned away from polling stations in UK general elections

May 7, 2010 Scores of polling stations in the United Kingdom have been unable to cope with one of the highest voter turn outs in thirty years, leaving thousands of voters unable to cast their vote in yesterday's general election.

Police had to intervene in, , and when angry voters refused to leave after the 10.00pm deadline. Elsewhere voters were turned away before ten when polling stations ran out of ballot papers. A late surge in voter registrations also saw hundreds of voters eligible to vote but unable to because had not been updated.

The sets national standards for elections, and promised an inquiry into elections where people were unable to vote.

The of each constituency is legally independent and is personally responsible for the local conduct of the election. Returning officers are appointed and funded by local authorities.


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Wikinews investigates: Advertisements disguised as news articles trick unknowing users out of money, credit card information

May 19, 2010 The Internet has already brought great things to the world, but has also brought spam, phishing, scamming, etc. We all have seen them across the Internet. They promise money, weight loss, or other things a person may strive for, but they usually amount to only a lighter pocket. Online advertising has become something that the increasingly Internet-reliant society has become used to, as well as more aware of. As this is true, online ads have become more intricate and deceptive in recent years.

However, a certain type of advertisement has arisen recently, and has become more deceptive than any other Internet ad, and has tricked many users into credit card charges. These sites claim to be news websites that preach a "miracle product", and they offer a free trial, and then charge the user's credit card a large amount of money without informing them after the trial ends. These sites appear to be operating under one venture and have caught ad pages of high-traffic websites by storm. In this report, Wikinews' Tjc6 investigates news advertisement sites.

These Internet ads work in different ways:

Attracting the customers
Hypothetically speaking, a reader is browsing the web, and then happens to come across something that they believe is too good to be true. A link on one of these high-traffic pages promises white teeth, weight loss, or huge profits from working at home part-time. Out of curiosity, they click on the link.

This is the way that people are attracted to these fake news sites on the internet. The domain owners draw in customers by purchasing advertising on some of the World Wide Web's most visited pages. Curious users click and are led to what they believe is a news article. From anti-aging to shedding weight, these "articles" from non-existant newspapers and television stations depict a skeptical news reporter trying a product because they were instructed to by a superior.

As the user reads on, they find that the "reporter" miraculously achieves significant weight loss, teeth whitening, or other general health and beauty improvement. The reporter states that the reader can get the same results as they did by using a "free trial" of the product.

Next, the user looks to the bottom of the page, where there seems to be a set of user comments, all of them praising the product or products that are advertised — this is where we first see something suspicious. Across several of these false articles, the comments appear to show the exact same text, sometimes with even the same usernames as other sites.

There is obviously some kind of correlation. Although this appears to be true, most users who purchase these products do not look at multiple versions of these similar pages of what appears to be a fast-growing network of interconnected fake news sites.

The free trial
Once customers have convinced themselves into buying the product, they are led to a product (or products) website which promises a free trial for a very low price. What they do not know about this, however, is that they are giving their credit card data to a company that will charge it automatically after the trial ends. In about 14 days, the user receives a charge on their credit card for an excessive amount of money, usually from about $80 to $100 (USD). All attempts to contact these companies and cancel their shipments usually prove to be futile.

What these sites have is a large amount of legal copy located at the bottom of each site, stating their right to charge the user. This site, a fake news article claiming to offer teeth-whitening benefits, has several paragraphs of fine print, including this: "...Upon signing up for the 10 day trial membership you will be charged up to $4.97 depending on various shipping and initial offer promotions at that time but not more than $4.97 upon signing. If not cancelled, you will be charged $89.97 upon completion of the 10 day trial period.  Monthly thereafter or 30 days from the original order date, the charge will reoccur monthly at a total of $89.97 until cancelled...," the site says.

Practices like this have alerted the, an American organization that studies and reports on the reliability and practices of US businesses. In a press release, a spokesman from the BBB spoke out against sites like this. "Many businesses across the country are using the same selling model for their products: They lure customers in with claimed celebrity endorsements and free trial offers, and then lock them in by making it extremely difficult to cancel the automatic delivery of more products every month...," said the report that denounced the websites.

An advertising "empire"
When a user looks at several of these sites, they notice that all of them have the same exact structure. Because of this, Wikinews decided to look into where some of the domains were owned, and if they were all in fact part of one company.

However, the results that Wikinews found were ones that were not expected. Out of the three random websites that were found in Internet ads, all using similar designs and methods to attract the customers, came from three different locations in three countries and two separate continents. The first came from, in the United States, while the next two came from and. There is no location correlation, but surely, there has to be something that connected these sites together. We had to look even further to try to find a connection.

There is some correlation within the product's contact information. A large amount of the teeth-whitening products analyzed actually shared the same phone number, which lead to a distribution center located in St. Petersburg, Florida, and several other similar distribution centers located across the Southern United States. But, that explains only one of the categories of products that these websites cover, teeth whitening.

What about the other products? The other products such as weight loss and work-at-home kits all trace back to similar distribution centers in similar places. So, what do we make of all of this?

There is obviously some company that promotes these products through the fake news advertisements, but that company is nowhere to be found on the websites. All contact information is given on the product pages, and websites are copyrighted under the name of the domain, not a company. Whatever company has been the setup for these pages has been very good at hiding themselves from the Internet, as there is no information across the web about that mysterious large advertiser.

Customer response
As a result of customers buying the products and having unauthorized charges on their credit cards, a large volume of complaints are currently present on awareness sites, complaint sites, and even the Better Business Bureau. Several customers point out that they were not informed of the steep charges and the company made it extremely difficult to cancel their subscription, usually resulting in the loss of several hundred dollars.

Specific complaints

 * "The trial offer was to pay for $3.95 for the cost of the shipping for one bottle. I noticed shortly after placing the order I had a charge on my credit card for $149.95. Unknown to myself the company charges for a membership if you don't cancel within 14 days, I cancelled within 18 days...When I called the customer service number they told me the decision has been made and my refund request was denied. When I questioned the person on the other line about what I was getting for my $149.95 she told me I was not getting anything because I cancelled the membership."
 * ―"Tamara", in a post to the Ripoff Report

 * "This is a "free sample" scam: Pay only postage and handling and get a free sample of a tooth whitening system, they say. I looked for the "catch," something that would indicate that there'd be hidden or recurring charges, but didn't see anything, and ordered. Sure enough, a couple of weeks later, I see a charge for $88.97 on my bank statement...When I called, the guy answering the phone had obviously answered the same angry question many, many times: "Why has your company charged $88.97 to my card?" "Because you didn't cancel your subscription in time," he said tiredly."
 * ―"Elenor", in a post to the Ripoff Report

Legal issues and lawsuits
One notable lawsuit has occurred as a result of these articles. Some of the articles about work at home kits specifically advertise things like "work for Google", or "job openings at Google". However, Google asserts these claims as false and has taken the case to court, as it is a copyright violation. "Thousands of people have been tricked into sending payment information and being charged hidden fees by questionable operations," said Google in a statement.

The BBB has received over 3,000 complaints about products such as the ones that Google took offense to. The lawsuit has yet to begin in court, and no date has been set.


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From Wikinews, the free news source, this is the Audio Wikinews Brief for Thursday, May 6th, 2010. I'm Dan Harlow and here are today's top stories:

2010 UK general election results (0:16)
While results have yet to be determined in today's elections in the UK, exit polls are suggesting a small Conservative Party majority over the incumbent Gordon Brown's socialist Labour Party. When this swing is projected nationally, it would cause a hung parliament. This would be a favored result by the third party, the Liberal Democrats, whose support has surged following the first national televised leaders' debates. However, the party's support is still not strong enough, according to polls, for them to form a government, so their most realistic aim is to hold the balance of power in a hung parliament.

In the general election, people over the age of eighteen around the United Kingdom vote for a candidate at their local polling booth, and Members of Parliament are elected to each constituency based on the first past the post system, which means an election is determined by the highest polling candidate. Whichever party has a majority of MPs after all constituencies have announced their results has the opportunity to form a government.

For the latest developments, visit wikinews.org for up to date coverage of the UK elections as they happen.

Athens bank fire kills three as Greece goes on strike, Greek demonstrators protest austerity measures, Greek parliament passes austerity bill (1:26)
The Greek parliament has approved an austerity bill proposed by the government to help rescue the country's ailing economy.

The proposal, which includes increases in taxes, as well as salary and pension cuts, needed at least 151 votes to pass in the 300 seat parliament. The vote comes after a debate that took the entire day and was passed with 172 members of parliament supporting, 121 opposing, and several abstaining.

Prime minister George Papandreou described the situation to parliament ahead of the vote, saying "The future of Greece is at stake. The economy, democracy and social cohesion are being put to the test."

The Eurozone and the International Monetary Fund had asked for austerity plans, an economic measure in which a government reduces its spending and/or increases user fees to pay back creditors, to be implemented so that Greece can access a rescue loan package worth US$146 billion in order not to default on their debts. The austerity program is estimated to save $38 billion. Greece also aims to lower the public deficit to less than 3% of the GDP in four years; at the moment it is at 13.6%.

Meanwhile, rallies and strikes have been held across the country, particularly in Athens, to protest against the measures.

During the first day of the protests, demonstrations were mostly peaceful, though some protesters threw stones at riot police, who responded with pepper spray. Members of the Greek Communist Party, the KKE, broke through locks securing the Acropolis in Athens and hung up banners saying "Peoples of Europe — Rise Up".

Present at the protests were 150 members of the armed forces, who protested having their bonuses lowered and they were joined by teachers, hospital workers and other public servants.

However, on the second day of protests, yesterday, an apparent firebombing at the Marfin Bank bank killed three, including a pregnant woman, as the sweeping 24-hour strike shut down most services, including schools, hospitals, public transport and government-run offices.

Up to 100,000 people were reported to have taken part in the demonstrations, the largest since Greece's economic crisis began last year. In addition to the bank bombings, protesters attempted to storm riot police guarding the parliament building, using broken marble torn from buildings as weapons. Protesters have also reportedly set fire to other buildings, cars and bins, as well as setting up barricades in the streets. Police responded by using tear gas and water cannons against the protesters.

The Greek Communist Party has indicated to Wikinews reporter Iain Macdonald that they are willing to provide an exclusive interview about the current situation. The interview is likely to appear on wikinews.org within the next few days. Please stay tuned to wikinews.org for all the latest developments in this story.

Nigerian President Umaru Yar'Adua reported dead, Nigeria swears in new president after death of Umaru Yar'Adua (4:36)
Presidential aides and state television announced yesterday that the Nigerian president, Umaru Yar'Adua, died.

Yar'Adua ascended to the presidency in 2007, but was later taken ill, and had not been publicly seen for the last few months. He was hospitalized in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, to get treatment for inflammated tissue around his heart.

According to the BBC, Nigerian reports indicated the president died between 21.00 and 22.00 local time (20.00 to 21.00 UTC) in Abuja, the capital.

Goodluck Jonathan, the vice-president, became the acting president this February and was formally sworn in today. According to the constitution, Jonathan will be the country's leader until next elections next April; he is also to nominate a vice president, who must be approved by the senate.

Tomorrow is to be a national holiday, and Nigeria will observe a week of mourning for the deceased president. In his statement, acting president Jonathan said: "Nigeria has lost the jewel on its crown, and even the heavens mourn with our nation tonight."

Black boxes from Air France Flight 447 localized (5:43)
According to French officials on Thursday, the flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder, or "black boxes", from an Air France plane that crashed on June 1 last year in the Atlantic Ocean, have been localized to within about 2 square miles (5 square kilometers). The French government and military officials have urged caution, however, saying there is no guarantee the flight recorders will be found.

The aircraft, an Airbus A330-200, carrying 216 passengers and 12 crew members, crashed in the Atlantic Ocean after flying in bad weather. The pitot tubes, which measure airspeed, are considered likely to have been a contributing factor to the crash. However, the actual cause has yet to be determined.

Mumbai gunman given death penalty, to be hanged (6:27)
Ajmal Amir Kasab, the only surviving terrorist from the 2008 gun and grenade attacks in Mumbai, India, has been sentenced to death by hanging, on 86 charges, including conspiracy, murder, terrorism, and waging war against India.

The sentence was handed down after being in the courts for over a year, and after a 90-minute sentencing hearing. Kasab can still appeal to the high Mumbai court, that nations Supreme Court, and the Indian president to have the sentence reversed. According to the Christian Science Monitor, people on death row frequently are not actually executed for years; the last available data from 2007 indicates 308 people are on death row.

Kasab's defense lawyer had argued that his client carried out the attack under pressure from the Lashkar-e-Taiba, a terrorist organization blamed for the attacks but today's ruling rejected the position prompting the public prosecutor to state "Terrorism and terrorists like Kasab cannot be tolerated. The death penalty is the only option."

At least 166 people in Mumbai were killed and 234 injured when several hotels, a rail station, and other locations were attacked by terrorists over a 60-hour period in November 2008.

New York bridge shut down after suspicious truck found (7:50)
New York City's Triborough Bridge was shut down yesterday while bomb squads investigated a suspicious vehicle. A toll booth operator noticed a strong smell of gasoline coming from a U-Haul rental truck which had been abandoned nearby.

Witnesses told police they saw a man flee the vehicle last night. No bomb was found. The incident comes just three days after a failed bombing in the city's Times Square.

Russian forces storm oil tanker seized by Somali pirates, crew freed (8:18)
Russian special forces aboard the Marshal Shaposhnikov warship stormed an oil tanker that was recently seized by Somali pirates.

The forces boarded the Moscow University tanker, where they freed the 23 crew members, who had been hiding in a secure room on the ship after disabling the vessel's motor. There was a shootout between the pirates and the forces, after which one pirate was killed and ten others taken into custody.

The Moscow University was carrying 86,000 tons of crude oil, which was valued at US$50 million.

British political candidate Nigel Farage injured in plane crash on polling day (8:53)
A political candidate for the United Kingdom Independence Party has been injured in a polling day plane crash. Nigel Farage, the former leader of the party, was a passenger on a two-seater plane when it crashed at an airfield in Winchester just one hour after voting began.

The pilot received serious injuries while Farage's were not thought to be life-threatening, although a fellow UKIP member stated that Farage has been drifting in and out of consciousness. The plane was towing a UKIP banner to be flown over Buckinghamshire, the constituency for which Farage is a candidate. Initially, UKIP said unconfirmed reports stated the banner had become snagged or that crosswinds were a factor, but stated that after contacting an aviation expert they believed the banner was not a factor.

An investigation into the crash has been launched.

British oil firm claims discovery off coast of Falkland Islands (9:50)
A British oil firm has claimed to have discovered oil off the coast of the Falkland Islands in the North Falkland Basin. Rockhopper Exploration would be the first company to strike oil in the Falklands if the claim is proven.

After the discovery, Rockhopper Exploration’s shares doubled. Other oil companies in the Falklands, including Desire Petroleum, also saw shares rise after the discovery.

The sovereignty of the Falkland Islands have always been disputed. Both the United Kingdom and Argentina claim the islands.

African leaders start drive to eradicate malaria (10:22)
The African Leaders Malaria Alliance (ALMA), consisting of leaders from 26 African countries, are beginning a drive to eradicate malaria from the continent by distributing medication, insecticides, and bed nets. In a budget announced at the World Economic Forum yesterday, US$100 million will be spent in the countries worst affected by the disease.

Tanzanian President Jakaya Kikwete told the World Economic Forum that the strategy of mass-covering beds with nets to keep out disease-carrying mosquitoes, distributing plenty of medicine and the use of insecticides has already reduced Zanzibar's malaria incidence from 40% to 1%. Ray Chambers, a special envoy for malaria with the United Nations, said the US President's Malaria Initiative will provide the money. Chambers also commented that ALMA has recently purchased 50 million "long lasting" insecticidal nets.

Malaria costs the continent an estimated US$40 billion every year in lost work time and medical care.

NBC employee wins $266M from California lottery (11:31)
An NBC employee won US$266 million from the California Lottery's Mega Millions drawing.

The winner, wishing to remain anonymous, will receive $165 million in total, after federal taxes.

David Reese, a KNBC assistant manager, was informed by the winner around 2:30 local time Wednesday. Reese told the employees working the night shift to keep the name a secret until the winner wishes to step forward.

Reese said the winner worked for NBC as a freelancer for four years, and her husband was laid off two weeks ago.

L & L Hawaiian BBQ in Pico Rivera, California, sold the winning ticket with the numbers 9, 21, 31, 36, 43, and the "Mega Number" 8. Danny He, the owner of the BBQ, will receive $1 million from the lottery for selling the winning ticket.

According to lottery officials, there was a 1 in 175,711,536 chance in winning with all six numbers with 38 other states and the District of Colombia playing as well.

Peruvian bolero singer Lucho Barrios dies aged 75 (12:46)
In our final story today, Peruvian bolero singer Lucho Barrios died in a Lima, Peru hospital, of renal failure and respiratory problems. Barrios was well-known through all the South American countries.

Barrios, who was a diabetic, was taken to the Dos de Mayo Hospital on Monday due to a pulmonary thromboembolism. He remained in the intensive care unit in a serious condition, until his death on Wednesday at 7:32 AM local time.

Here is Barrios singing "La Joya Del Pacifico (The Jewel Of the Pacific)"

According to his daughter, Milagros Barrios, she said of her father after he had recovered from his first thromboembolism almost a year ago, that "He was okay, he was healthy, and he started singing again because he told me, 'I'm gonna die on the stage',"

Barrios was 75.

 * Music credit La Joya Del Pacifico (The Jewel Of the Pacific)

On this day in history (13:53)
In 1937, the German passenger airship LZ 129 Hindenburg caught fire and was destroyed as it was attempting to dock with its mooring mast at the Lakehurst Naval Air Station. Of the 97 people on board, 35 people died in addition to one fatality on the ground. The disaster was the subject of spectacular newsreel coverage, photographs, and Herbert Morrison's recorded radio eyewitness report from the landing field, which was broadcast the next day.

The actual cause of the fire remains unknown, although a variety of theories have been put forward for both the cause of ignition and the initial fuel for the ensuing fire.

The accident served to shatter public confidence in the giant, passenger-carrying rigid airship, and marked the end of the airship era.

 * Audio Credit The Internet Archive

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Research
Research will be posted here. Tjc6 (talk) 02:06, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Wired News Article link
Will be used in some writing.
 * http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/06/fake_news/

BBB References
Obtained from:
 * http://abcnews.go.com/Health/WellnessNews/story?id=7132495&page=1

Fake news sites that I used in research

 * "Miracle Teeth Whitening"
 * Another teeth whitener
 * Working at home scam

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Review of revision 1015808 [Failed]

 * I agree with Mike failing this, and it should be failed on NPOV as well. I would strongly advise a detailed review of the style guide and the standard to which other published material is held - particularly when it lays claim to WN:OR. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk' 21:43, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with you both. The article itself is great, but you need to use a NPOV. Sorry. --Diego Grez return fire 21:44, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * What are some things that I could do to improve it? I would be glad to work with you guys. Tjc6 (talk) 22:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Just use a 3rd person form (or whatever it is), not in first person, never. --Diego Grez return fire 22:10, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe that I removed the 3rd person already...how about the NPOV? Tjc6 (talk) 22:40, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * WN:NPOV <-- Read that. Mike  moral  ♪♫  22:55, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, I understand now...do you have any specific parts of the article that you think violate this? Tjc6 (talk) 01:44, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

I can't speak for the reviewers, though I would suggest that if you were truly "writing for the enemy" you would not use the word 'scam'. The problem here, though, is that I think even NPR or the BBC might fail the NPOV test for an investigative journalism piece on the same topic. You describe evidence that leads you to the conclusion 'scam', and so you use the word 'scam'.

The most I suggest you can do is to be scrupulously fair in presenting evidence that might support the conclusion that some (or all) fake news ads are merely creatively informing readers, and are not scams. Meanwhile you will have to endeavour to avoid tarring any innocent fake news ads with the brush of your investigation. Finally, hope that is enough to convince consensus here at Wikinews.

I am sorry your first story at Wikinews has been such a frustrating experience for you, and I look forward to reading more of your articles (and a published version of this one.)

--InfantGorilla (talk) 12:44, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

By the way, you might find this recent debate interesting:

 * Featured_article_candidates/archive/5

--InfantGorilla (talk) 13:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Good call. That's sort of where I was coming from on this. As far as I was concerned on that one I did fine, but it wasn't quite good enough for FA status. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk' 13:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

 * Fails on first sentence, and that sets the entire tone: "Wikinews' Tjc6 has investigated how deceiptive internet ads are disguised as news articles while they scam users."
 * 1) "Tjc6" - who?
 * 2) "has investigated" - passive voice.
 * 3) "deceiptive" (sic) - spelling error a simple inline checker would catch.
 * 4) "scam"- loaded, POV term.
 * And, that is just the opening sentence. I strongly recommend learning exactly what a lede is, and how to actually write something which makes people want to read to the end. Really, original reporting is not something to try and start out on. -- Brian McNeil (alt. account) /alt-talk • main talk' 01:43, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Concerns
I'm quite concerned that this is article is not meeting our style standards, and that the article was published despite very little having been actually changed since the previous (failed) review. For instance:

 * 1) "In this report, Wikinews' Tjc6 investigates news advertisement sites." = use of pseudonyms like this in articles is unprofessional. Either simply say "Wikinews investigates ..." or remove the line altogether.
 * 2) Repeated use of first person such as "we" - such is frowned upon and should not have been used
 * 3) No attempt was made to contact the owners of said websites for comment, or otherwise say anything in their defence. Of course most of the sites are scams, but we need to look neutral, and part of this is "writing for the enemy" even when one believes that point of view to be absurd.

These concerns were grave enough for me to briefly consider depublishing the article. I'm rather disappointed this was reviewed and published in this state. Open to thoughts on how this can be fixed. Tempodivalse [talk]  03:15, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

 * I think de-publishing will be a good move at this point. 'Publish' tags are granted by consensus: peer review is not an auction where one person should pass it when two others have already failed it.  Despite disagreement, there is a balance of opinion that suggests that this article needs more work.  --InfantGorilla (talk) 08:20, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

 * No. Articles should not vanish. We should have the balls to admit mistakes like this one. Stick a big Correction on it saying that it does not meet our standards on x, y and z. Some of the more minor concerns can be copyedited out as non-content changes, but the main bulk of the mess cannot be fixed - contacting sites, for example, ain't gonna happen under WN:ARCHIVE. Please don't make me go through the WN:DR archives to produce the consensus against censorship. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 09:58, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

 * As a contributor to the article, I do not agree with it being published in this state. It does have these concerns, and I was working to address them while it was published. Please accept my apologies for any harm this may have done. Tjc6 (talk) 10:36, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

 * Tjc6: at some point you posted the review tag . Perhaps you accidentally hit the button?  I think I understand Sandman's warning about putting a published story, however troublesome, into a memory hole, but it doesn't weigh strongly with me in this case of accidental publication where we move it back to the Newsroom, rather than delete it altogether.
 * I have been away from WN for many months: I recall that once (before flagged revisions) it was common to un-publish a disputed article. While I hate to suggest someone trawl archives, it would be great if we could refer to a summary of consensus on such cases on a policy/guideline page.
 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 11:43, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The page in question was Passengers on Air France Flight 447 sent text messages to family members before plane disappeared - which turned out to be 100% fictitious. The archive is at Deletion requests/Archives/2009/Q2. It's long because there were some issues with regulars and newcomers not understanding each other; both sides actually agreed once they worked out what had happened IIRC. That case is even worse than this; the article was entirely false but consensus was still to keep.
 * Yes, I do remember the pre-FR days. Back then, it made sense to depublish since any old whack could publish any old crap. Even established editors would bugger it up entirely on occasions. It happens. In fact, we recently had to scramble around removing an article that spent a few minutes published and should not have been; that was, to me at least, acceptable since the aticle stayed around less than five minutes (I believe it was brought up to standard and republished anyway, which means the public still got to see it). However, now that we do have FR things have generally changed. It's a content management system, to use the jargon. Once things are published, that's it. They go out on the feeds, they are spammed via Twitter and Facebook, they are indexed on Google News.
 * In short, we run a much more professional show. When the world's media was taken in by Ukranian manufacturer preparing to sell Adolf Hitler dolls, most of it later simply deleted the story. I know for a fact both the Daily Fail and the BBC literally pulled their online stories without the slightest explanation to readers. Wikinews not only kept the article, we published a second one reporting that we'd been amongst those taken in. Looking at the sources, I see the Telegraph and Deutsche Welle have done likewise; Pakistan's Daily Times has kept the article without any notice it was false.
 * Out of all those publications, only Wikinews can hold up its head and say it did the right thing. Accuracy and honesty should always come before PR. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:33, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * In the meantime, this has been sitting on the top lead for several hours. May we at least remove it from there? I tend to agree with BRS about the honesty part, a correction notice is warranted - we should admit our errors - but can we blank as well? The content of the article doesn't meet our standards to the point that it really pains me to have it even displayed, for that reason I'm not flatly opposed to depublishing. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:14, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you: long explanation appreciated. We have learned to do things differently since headlines started going out in feeds. The Flight 447 Deletion Review shows a convincing consensus, which I would be unwise to re-open, despite my instincts. I think we should update our guidelines.
 * Right now, since we can't really unpublish, can we whack a dispute banner onto the top of the page again? If and when an updated/improved version appears, we can replace a dispute banner with a red Correction banner.  I was initially confused by your comment about the archive policy, but I see now that any response or non-response from the accused sites will come in after the 24 hour deadline.
 * Meanwhile, thanks to TDV for removing it from the main page lead.
 * --InfantGorilla (talk) 14:20, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem; I was very annoyed that nobody had thought to do this before and frustrated that it stayed up as long as it did. Probably should have removed it yesterday, but was too tired to think properly ...
 * Anyways. As far as the dispute tag is concerned, we almost never put them on published articles, as it doesn't make us look any more professional, but in this case I'm not sure what else to do. Does the article contain any outright factual inaccuracies, or is the main difficulty NPOV? If so, then perhaps correction isn't warranted since it's used primarily for the former. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:26, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

(unindent) The wording isn't perfect for this situation on either option. I prefer the Correction notice as at least written with articles that have been published in mind. Otherwise, this will permanently look like a work in progress. Perhaps we should subst Correction, and tweak the wording? Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:18, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm very sorry of the publishment. I thought the article was okay, and it touches a great topic. I tried to do my best copyediting it. And please excuse me. --Diego Grez return fire 17:34, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

 * So you live and learn, and you'll try not to make the same mistake again. I had to look this up to find out who said it — Niels Bohr as quoted by Edward Teller —
 * An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made in a very narrow field.
 * --Pi zero (talk) 19:39, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

How about this as a possible notice for the top of the article:

I suggest we include, on the theory that it is in the close penumbra of that category. --Pi zero (talk) 19:39, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

 * I'd like to add a "For details, see here". 'See here' would link to this section - that both demonstrates the consensus and lets people look up what these problems are. Otherwise, looks good to me. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:55, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I think Pi zero has captured the mood of the consensus.

My remaining concern is a principle that is held over at our sister site, Wikipedia: don't bite the newcomers. My own first efforts at English and French Wikinews were treated much more gently by the communities. I think we have, between us, put a new contributor through the wringer, and for that I am sorry. As I said earlier, this story would be fine on many news sites that I respect: it just does not fit on Wikinews in its current form, and that is no reflection on Tjc6's evident talent for writing and research.

--InfantGorilla (talk) 20:01, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

What's more, had the article failed review, it would likely have been fixed up. Good work had been done to that end so far; in fact, the hard stuff had been done. Tjc could have gone straight in with an FA; instead, he probably feels responsible for a big blemish on our professionalism. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:13, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

 * I have added the notice to the article, with a 'see here' link to this section. --Pi zero (talk) 20:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Do we have to make the banner so... ugly? It's one thing to draw the attention of the reader to issues with the article, but the WP principle at least is that they're not used as a "badge of shame" (though granted, due to the different models, such tags are much more common over there). HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts?   20:43, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

My suggestion might be a little more aesthetically pleasing (it's also easier on the markup and slimmer):

--HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts?   20:43, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * In fact, I'm going to be bold and add it. Feel free to revert. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts?   20:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I like it; might be good to have a date, though. C628 (talk) 20:49, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * (two edit conflicts)Not eye-catching enough for me. Casual readers will pay little attention to most banners. I do agree it could be played with a bit, though. That's something for the Water Cooler really; it's that way to be close to Correction, so if we were to make a change we should change the template and not just this notice. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:50, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * On the theory that, whatever we decide about the exact appearance of the correction banners, we want this banner to be consistent with the others, I souped up the correction template a bit so it could handle this case, and made this article use the upgraded template. I used HJ Mitchell's version of the message, which I thought was an improvement on mine.

 * My general thought on the aesthetics is that this notice ought to be an eyesore. It needs to grab the attention of anyone who happens on the article.  --Pi zero (talk) 22:50, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

My Apologies
Sorry to all for the hardship that this article caused. Feel free to un-publish if necessary. Tjc6 (talk) 21:06, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I apologize too, for reviewing it. I really like the article, it's really good, but may not meet WN's standards. And that's really, painful. --Diego Grez return fire 21:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You guys shouldn't blame yourself for this. Nobody's to blame- it's just unfortunate that such a good quality piece of journalism isn't quite up to technical standards and it's unfortunate that it ended up published prematurely, but that's not anybody's fault. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts?   21:51, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I just parachuted in from en.WP and noticed that it's a front-page feature and has been failed. Why then, is it still a front-page feature? I don't mean to criticise any one contributor. Tony1 (talk) 13:28, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It was published, but it was cancelled by community decision. --Diego Grez return fire 13:35, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I genuinely don't understand what you mean by 'front-page feature'. It isn't on any of the leads. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It's on the original reporting side. --Diego Grez return fire 13:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh... That's not a 'feature' Tony. All our published OR goes through there automatically. A misunderstanding, 'tis all. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:44, 30 May 2010 (UTC)


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Ice Hockey: Detroit Red Wings beat San Jose Sharks 7-1 in fourth NHL quarter final match

May 8, 2010 The beat the  7–1 in their fourth quarter final match of the  on Thursday night, reducing San Jose's series lead to three games to one.

Detroit would go up to a five goal to zero lead in the first period, with scoring three goals (commonly known as a hat-trick). In the second period, Detroit scored one another goal to take a six goal to zero lead. of the San Jose Sharks eventually scored to reduce Detroits lead to six goals to one in the same period, but could not lift the team to score any more.

In the third period, Franzén scored his fourth and final goal of the game. Detroit won seven goals to one.

The next game will be hosted by San Jose on Saturday night. If the San Jose Sharks win Game 5, they will advance to the. Detroit are forced to win three games in a row in order to advance to the Conference Finals. The winning team in this series (first team to win 4 games) will advance to the Conference Finals of the, where they'll either meet the or the. The Canucks are currently leading that series, 3 games to 1.

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This story shocks me. I expect British elections to be orderly and efficient: the completely unmechanised system has worked well in the past, yet failed for thousands of voters in 2010.


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I dont understand people who are saying it's "Disgusting" and an it's "stealing their rights". Every body knows that polling closes at 10.00pm... so be there before 10pm. If you thing you are going to be late or they may be a que then they was the option of postal voting and proxy voting. Yes the system was flawed and in instances where ballot papers ran out of the electoral roll was not updated was wrong and an investigation should be opened to that but if you are late or not early enough as it may appear, then the voters (or the nearly voters) need to take that into consideration.


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UK elections: Hung parliament, Cameron to negotiate with Liberal Democrats

May 7, 2010 A day after general elections were held in the UK, results indicate there will be a — where no party obtains the simple majority needed to pass legislation on its own — raising the prospect of a minority or coalition government being formed, which would require cooperation between parties.

With only one constituency not yet counted, David Cameron's Conservatives have taken 306 seats, incumbent Prime Minister Gordon Brown's Labour party 258 seats, and Nick Clegg with his Liberal Democrats with 57. Cameron has said he will negotiate with the latter party to try and form a coalition to attain more than 325 seats, or half those in the parliament.

After Labour's large losses at the polls yesterday, both in terms of seats and votes, Cameron said Brown has "lost his mandate to govern". Clegg, meanwhile, says he thinks the result allows the Conservatives to try to form a government first, contrary to past tradition, under which the incumbent prime minister and his party in a hung parliament try first to form a coalition.

"I've said that whichever party gets the most votes and the most seats, if not an absolute majority, has the first right to seek to govern either on its own or by reaching out to other parties, and I stick to that view," Clegg said this morning.

"It seems this morning that it is the Conservative Party that has more votes and more seats though not an absolute majority. That is why I think it is now for the Conservative Party to prove that it is capable of seeking to govern in the national interest."

Clegg described his party's performance as "disappointing" during the night, as they had failed to make any significant advances in their target seats. Overall, the general swing varied, with all parties failing to gain many of their targets, and suffering unexpected losses in others.

Brown: 'prepared to discuss' issues with Lib Dems
Pre-empting a statement from Cameron, Brown said at lunchtime in a short statement outside Downing Street that if any negotiations between the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats failed, he would be prepared to form an alliance with Nick Clegg, offering "far-reaching political reform", in reference to the Liberals' long held position that the UK's voting system must be reformed into some form of proportional representation system, historically opposed by the Conservatives.

"I understand and completely respect the position of Mr. Clegg in stating that he wishes first to make contact with the leader of the Conservative Party," he commented, but noting that, "should the discussions between Mr. Cameron and Mr. Clegg come to nothing [...] I would be prepared to discuss with Mr. Clegg the areas where there may be some measure of agreement between our two parties." He said there is "substantial common ground" between his party and the Liberals.

"I understand as I know my fellow party leaders do that people do not like the uncertainty or want it to be prolonged. We live, however, in a parliamentary democracy, the outcome has been delivered by the electorate. It is our responsibility now to make it work for the national good," Brown said.

Cameron made his position known in a statement delivered in the early afternoon, in which he offered the prospect of both a Lib Dem supported minority Conservative government, or an alliance "stronger, more stable, more collaborative government than that". Cameron stated: "I want to make a big, open and comprehensive offer to the Liberal Democrats. I want us to work together in tackling our country's big and urgent problems — the debt crisis, our deep social problems, and our broken political system."

He went on to describe how both parties had "common ground" they could work together on to form a government in the "national interest". On the issue of electoral reform, Cameron ruled out holding a referendum, but suggested forming an all party commission on electoral and voting reform. He also ruled out concessions on other Lib Dem positions like greater integration with the European Union or altering the position on defence and the nuclear deterrent, although offering to adopt other Lib Dem policies, such as on schools.

The AFP news agency says this is the first time the Liberal Democrats have considered working with Conservatives; previously, the former were thought likelier to negotiate with Labour due to them being considered more "progressive".

Brown not to step down after 'lost mandate'
Brown, however, has made it clear he has no intention of stepping down as PM, saying he has "a duty as Prime Minister to take all steps to ensure Britain has a strong, stable and principled government". Business Secretary Lord Mandelson commented on the matter, saying: "The Prime Minister's duty is to stay at his post, to continue doing his job and not resign until it is clear who the Queen should call as an alternative to form a new government, should Mr Brown not be able to do so."

When asked whether it was "inconceivable" that the PM should step down, Mandelson responded: "Frankly, there are quite a number of permutations. And the reason I don't want to start getting into hypotheses about what may or may not happen is because, quite frankly, I think it's premature. I am not ruling out or ruling in anything."

Under British parliamentary convention, in the event of a hung parliament, Brown remains Prime Minister and the Labour Government continues to operate until it is demonstrated it cannot command a majority. The Government effectively gave approval for talks to begin by giving civil servants permission to support all parties in hung parliament negotiations. Brown described how the negotiations could be "prolonged", and while recognising people might want a swift conclusion, "the outcome has been delivered by the electorate. It is our responsibility now to make it work for the national good".


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You're right, no rights are being "stolen", as there is no transfer of rights going there, but rather a violation of citizen rights.

The election committee needs to be prepared to allow everyone to cast their votes as long as they arrive there on time, and they were unprepared for that. Boy, I wish someone gets severely disciplined for that, or that the election process is declared void and re-run.


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Most of the the anti-far right organisers I know were absolutely exhausted after the general election and were unable to give a quote, but Joseph Fatallah, a regional organiser for Youth Fight For Jobs, told me over the phone: "I think it shows the value of campaigning work and spreading a positive alternative. The danger of the BNP is still there and so we need to continue campaigning and putting forward a positive alternative." --Killing Vector (talk)


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May 8, 2010 The British National Party (BNP) has lost all 12 of its councilors in, London in. The new local council will be composed entirely of councillors from the Labour Party, with no BNP candidate placing higher than fourth in any of the authority's 13 wards.

Before the election, it had been considered possible that the BNP might control Barking & Dagenham Council, giving the party, which believes that immigrants, Muslims and non-whites represent a threat to the United Kingdom, control of a local authority for the first time in its history. The BNP has played the role of official opposition in Barking & Dagenham since 2006. The BNP has no but party leader Nick Griffin, as well as party member Andrew Brons, represent regions of northern England in the European Parliament.

Griffin also failed in his attempt to unseat in the, his party losing support in Barking compared to the.

Many anti-far right groups such as, and  had been involved in campaigning in Barking & Dagenham, with marches, rallies and door-to-door canvassing taking place daily in the lead-up to the election. A spokesman for the campaign, which organised a march against both Nick Griffin and Margaret Hodge in Barking, said of the defeat of the BNP: "I think it shows the value of campaigning work and spreading a positive alternative. The danger of the BNP is still there and so we need to continue campaigning and putting forward a positive alternative."

The BNP also suffered from internal dissent late in the election, with its former webmaster launching a scathing attack on the party's internal operations and accusing it of corruption the day before voting booths opened. The party's finances are also under investigation by the.


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Falkirk were today relegated from the Scottish Premier League (SPL), after they failed to beat Kilmarnock away from home in their final game of the season.

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Cleanup issues

 * HYS question: "With whom should the Liberal Democrats work with?"
 * "Overall, the general swing varied" -- doesn't mean anything, if "general swing" refers to a nationwide trend.
 * "The AFP news agency says this is the first time....This is the first time Clegg" is redundant
 * "With only one constituency not yet counted" -- does this include the one constituency where a candidate died, and where a new vote will be held in a few weeks?
 * "Previously it was thought the Liberal Democrats would be more likely to work with Labour, as both are seen as "progressive" parties." "Labour due to both being considered previously it was thought the Liberal Democrats would be more likely to work with Labour, as both are considered more "progressive"." -- By whom? Also, redundant again.
 * "minority or coalition government" requires wikilinking. --Killing Vector (talk) 17:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I respectfully disagree with most of the above, except the redundant parts; I have removed them, and I'm not sure sure what HYS means, so I can't comment on that; in fact, I don't even see it in the article. Beyond that, I can't see anything wrong with it, so I'm going to repost it for review, and if you have no further objections, I will publish it. Cheers, C628 (talk) 18:11, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the redundancies, I was trying to merge stuff from a duplicate article and must have missed a few things during the copy/pastes, and was trying to do it quickly - my bad. However, i don't see what's wrong with the haveyoursay question - what is your objection? Cheers, Tempodivalse [talk]  18:31, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't find anything wrong; I'm prepared to publish it immediately if either of you want me to. C628 (talk) 18:38, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, please give this a speedy review if possible. I'd very much like this to go live ASAP. Tempodivalse [talk]  18:40, 7 May 2010 (UTC)


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{date|May 7, 2010}} A day after general elections were held in the UK, results indicate there will be a hung parliament, where no party obtains a simply majority. With only several constituencies not yet counted, David Cameron's Conservatives have taken 302 seats, incumbent Prime Minister Gordon Brown's Labour party 256 seats, and Nick Clegg with his Liberal Democrats with 56. Cameron has said he will negotiate with the latter party to try and form a coalition to attain more than 325 seats, or half those in the parliament.

After Labour's large losses at the polls yesterday, both in terms of seats and votes, Cameron said Brown has "lost his mandate to govern". Clegg, meanwhile, says he thinks the result allows the Conservatives to try to form a government first, contrary to past tradition, under which the incumbent prime minister and his party in a hung parliament try first to form a coalition.

"I've said that whichever party gets the most votes and the most seats, if not an absolute majority, has the first right to seek to govern either on its own or by reaching out to other parties, and I stick to that view," Clegg said.

"It seems this morning that it is the Conservative Party that has more votes and more seats though not an absolute majority. That is why I think it is now for the Conservative Party to prove that it is capable of seeking to govern in the national interest."

Brown responded to this, saying he "respects" Cameron's talks with the Liberal Democrats. "I understand and completely respect the position of Mr. Clegg in stating that he wishes first to make contact with the leader of the Conservative Party," he commented, but noting that, "should the discussions between Mr. Cameron and Mr. Clegg come to nothing [...] I would be prepared to discuss with Mr. Clegg the areas where there may be some measure of agreement between our two parties." He said there is "substantial common ground" between his party and the Liberals.

"I understand as I know my fellow party leaders do that people do not like the uncertainty or want it to be prolonged. We live, however, in a parliamentary democracy, the outcome has been delivered by the electorate. It is our responsibility now to make it work for the national good," Brown said.

The AFP news agency says that this is the first time the Liberal Democrats have considered working with Conservatives; previously, the former were thought likelier to negotiate with Labour due to both being considered more "progressive".

Brown not to step down after "lost mandate"
Brown, however, has made it clear he has no intention of stepping down as PM, saying he has "a duty as Prime Minister to take all steps to ensure Britain has a strong, stable and principled government".

Business Secretary Lord Mandelson commented on the matter, saying: "The Prime Minister's duty is to stay at his post, to continue doing his job and not resign until it is clear who the Queen should call as an alternative to form a new government, should Mr Brown not be able to do so."

When asked whether it was "inconceivable" that the PM should step down, Mandelson responded: "Frankly, there are quite a number of permutations. And the reason I don't want to start getting into hypotheses about what may or may not happen is because, quite frankly, I think it's premature. I am not ruling out or ruling in anything."

The director of the government and parliament programme for Hansard Society, Ruth Fox, spoke with the Al Jazeera news agency about the issue, saying she thinks things will become more certain soon: "I would expect over the weekend and definitely by Monday to have some sort of resolution. Given Nick Clegg's statement today we might get something earlier than that."

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you turned your back on what you stood for,,, who governs this county us or europe,, as you very quickly done as you were told,, thats why you didn't get a seat,,, —82.38.85.229 (talk) 20:30, 7 May 2010 (UTC)


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US economy added 290,000 jobs last month, unemployment at 9.9%

May 7, 2010 Latest figures from the US government say that the country's economy gained 290,000 jobs in April, the largest single-month gain since March 2006.

According to the, excluding temporary workers for this year's census, the number of non-farm jobs increased by a seasonally adjusted 224,000.

The unemployment rate, meanwhile, increased from 9.7% to 9.9%; the apparent contradiction is because 195,000 people who previously gave up searching for jobs started looking for work again, entering the labor force and augmenting the jobless rate.

The increases were larger than expected by economic analysts; according to a survey done by, economists believed the country would have added 185,000 jobs for last month.

President Obama commented on the numbers earlier today at the White House, saying: "This is the largest monthly increase in four years [...] we've now seen job growth for four months in a row. These numbers are particularly heartening when you consider where we were a year ago, with an economy in freefall."


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I would rather have the Tories and the Liberal Democrats in partnership. I'm not sure which of the two parties I like the most, so if they work together, I'd be getting the best of both worlds.


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Cheaper, quicker to vote, quicker to count votes, less faffing around, etc...

An electronic voting system is exactly what we need, preferably in the re-election (if he have one).


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No problem whatsoever. Thanks! That's awfully flattering. We've got a lot of changes to go through as a party, but we're committed to keeping those traits through and through. We'll just have to see how it all turns out.

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Reads like it's trying to sell the skin


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Two Egyptian peacekeepers killed in Darfur by gunmen

May 8, 2010 Two peacekeepers from Egypt, working for the joint United Nations-African Union mission in Darfur, were killed in an ambush yesterday by gunmen, reports say.

Three others were hurt when the incident happened near in. Kemal Saiki, a spokesman with the mission, commented on the incident in a statement: "Today, at about 11:30 am [14.30 ], a military convoy from 's Egyptian contingent, with three vehicles and 20 personnel, was ambushed near Katila village, 85 [53 ] south of Edd al-Fursan, South Darfur, by a group of unidentified armed men who indiscriminately opened fire, without warning, on the peacekeepers.

"The attackers fled when the convoy returned fire. The attack left two peacekeepers killed in action and three seriously wounded," Saiki added. He condemned the clash as being a "criminal act".

Nobody has, as of yet, claimed responsibility for the attack. Darfur and the surrounding region are prone to violence, caused by a civil war; with these deaths, 24 peacekeepers have been killed since UNAMID was deployed to the area two years ago.