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Comments:American prize-winning author Studs Terkel dead at 96

Sad. He was one of the good ones. --+Deprifry+ 01:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

We Lost A Good One
I met Studs in Chicago at a rally against violence in a South Side, lakeshore neighborhood sometime in the mid-early 90s. He shook hands with all of us after making a moving speech without notes. Great thinker, great writer, and a great heart. I was saddened somewhat by his death but can smile knowing he really did it all, fearlessly and with aplomb. Even a great life must end. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.174.171.40 (talk) 01:25, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


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Kay Hagan sues Elizabeth Dole over "Godless" television advertisement

November 1, 2008 Kay Hagan, a North Carolina State senator and the Democratic challenger for Republican incumbent Elizabeth Dole's U.S. Senate seat, has filed a lawsuit accusing Dole of defamation and libel.

The lawsuit spawns from an ad recently aired by the Dole campaign which accuses Hagan of attending a fundraising event hosted by the Godless Americans Political Action Committee in Boston, Massachusetts and accepting money from the group.

The end of the ad shows a picture of Hagan while another woman's voice, meant to sound like Hagan's, announces, "There is no God!" The ad also shows a few second long video clip allegedly showing Hagan at the event. The ad also shows various comments the group has made, including an attempt to take "in God we trust" off American currency and God out of the U.S. pledge of allegiance. According to the ad, Dole personally "approved the message".

Hagan is Presbyterian and teaches Sunday school and has since answered to Dole's ad with one of her own. Hagan says that Dole has "crossed the line".

"Christian faith guides my life. Attacking my faith won't fix this economy and this campaign should not be about bearing false witness to fellow Christians," says Hagan in her October 31 ad.

Hagan currently leads over Dole with margins ranging from a 2% lead to a 9% lead, the website RealClearPolitics currently averages it as a 3.4% lead.


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Talk:Kay Hagan sues Elizabeth Dole over "Godless" television advertisement

"a United States senator from North Carolina " ?
This is incorrect. She is a State Senator, not a United States Senator. Cirt (talk) 08:46, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


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User:Bawolff/sandbox/resizeEditbox/resizeEdit.js

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For the record, as far as any copyright I own, your free to do with this code as you wish - bawolff

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Has Beeblebrox finally lost what few marbles he had?
Nah, I think he was right to steal the ship. Cirt (talk) 09:10, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

The ship looks so cool! I would have stole it too. I wonder where he shops for stun grenades? --Brian McNeil / talk 08:21, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, he has.

Even though the aforementioned spacecraft "looks so cool," he has no right to steal it. As emperor, he could easily acquire it through some sort of bureaucratic process, or, through his substantial wealth, just buy it.

But no, he has to steal it! This is an act of insanity. Let us all hope a whale (and/or pot of petunias) falls on him. Utahraptor ostrommaysi (talk) 03:40, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

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User:Bawolff/sandbox/resizeEditbox

Resizable edit box
Note: this is not really wikinews related.

I happened to stumble upon 9370 and thought that that was something i should know how to fix, but wasn't really sure if i knew how to fix it. Anyways, when you edit this page you should be able to resize the edit box with your mouse (drag the left border). This is just an initial attempt (tested only on firefox). Currently it doesn't figure out how to resize it that well, so the resizing is shaky. (as currently it pretends a column and the pixel is the same thing, which it isn't, hence badness occours. I plan to fix this later)

Note: This isn't all that useful, because in modern browsers, the editbox is already the idea size from the css  rule. This is more to prove to myself i can do it.

To test this, just edit this page, and drag the box around by the edge.

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Thailand's "Truth Today", Thaksin tonight; pro-government protesters mass at stadium

November 1, 2008 Around 1,500 police have been deployed to monitor and manage a mass pro-government rally in Thailand's Rajamangala Stadium. Another 2,000 officers are on standby in case of trouble following the rally. The event's highlight is expected to be a telephone address by ousted and now-fugitive ex-Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

Dressed in red shirts, busloads of supporters of the former premier have been arriving in Bangkok all day. The rally has started several hours ahead of schedule and so far the "Truth Today" event has been peaceful and good-natured. It is expected that the rally will be broadcast as a political talk show during prime time, the event is billed as being pro-democracy and a counter to the ongoing protests by the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) who seek to have the current government removed due to claims of influence by Thaksin. The country's current Prime Minister, Somchai Wongsawat is Thaksin's brother-in-law and stands accused of being a proxy for the now-outlawed Thai Rak Thai party.

According to the event's organiser, Jatuporn Prompan, an MP with the People Power Party, Thaksin will speak at 8pm local time and, "is free to speak out and will not be restricted by topics and time constraints". Concern that the speech may exacerbate the country's current political crisis has led to army chief, General Anupong Paochinda, ordering that the event be closely monitored. Thailand's military have previously given assurances that there will not be a repeat of the bloodless 2006 coup which deposed Thaksin and his populist government.

Thai authorities are currently drawing up extradition paperwork for Thaksin following him being found guilty by a division of the Supreme Court of abuse of his powers over a land deal where his wife bought prime real estate in Bangkok. The court is expected to review Thaksin's broadcast message; should the content of his message to supporters be found as contempt of court an additional seven year jail term could be added to the two year sentence already handed down.

Earlier in the week anti-government protesters picketed the British embassy in Bangkok calling for Thaksin's extradition. It is expected he would fight this and has already claimed he cannot get a fair trial in Thailand. He alleges the country's judiciary is sympathetic to the opposition.

Tensions continue to increase in the months-long dispute. Thursday saw two attacks on anti-government parties take place. Security staff for the PAD protest outside Government House were attacked with a grenade and another explosive device was thrown into the garden of a senior member of the judiciary. According to Thai police the attack on PAD supporters injured ten.

Armed forces reinforcements are on standby for the end of today's "Truth Today" rally. With the national stadium able to hold 100,000 there is concern over what will happen when the event ends at 10pm. Bangkok police commander, Suchart Muankaew expressed concern saying, "anything could happen".


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I liked the story so much that it gave me s lot of information.Since you gave me a story I'm going to give you one.

Hi my name is Sydney Wynne and I go to Lake Forest Charter School.i am so deligthful that I am telling a governor my whole life so far.Oh yeah I forgot to tell you I am 8 and a half.I was born on December 21,1999.I have 1 brother and 1 sister not including me.My sister's name is Ashley Wynne and my brothers name is Nickolas Davis not Wynne.

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Japan's Air Self-Defense chief fired over essay on wartime history

November 5, 2008 Chief of Staff Toshio Tamogami of Japan Air Self-Defense Force (ASDF) was dismissed on last Friday. General Tamogami, age 60, lost his post after his essay for a contest was made public on that day to show his views contradicting the government's official standpoint, as to Japan's deeds during a period of its imperialistic past. Tamogami, a graduate of the National Defense Academy, joined ASDF in 1971, and became Chief of Staff in March 2007. The essay includes a claim that it is a false accusation to describe Japan as the aggressor in connection with the war in China and World War II. Tamogami also challenges the ban on Japan's exercise of collective self-defense and the restrictions on use of weapons by Self-Defense Forces (SDF).

Defense Minister Yasukazu Hamada soon decided to dismiss Tamogami from the post, deeming that the opinion expressed in Tamogami's essay was inconsistent with the government's position, and that it should not have been publicly expressed by an officer of his rank. The government's official standpoint is reflected in the Murayama Statement of 1995, which was delivered by then Prime Minister Tomiichi Murayama on the 50th anniversary of the war's end. It states that Japan advanced along the road to war "to ensnare the Japanese people in a fateful crisis," and "through its colonial rule and aggression, caused tremendous damage and suffering to the people of many countries"; these are described as "irrefutable facts of history." The Murayama Statement has been upheld by succeeding Prime Ministers.

Reportedly Tamogami in the essay justifies Japan's deeds during the period, describing Japan as a "victim" that was drawn into the Sino-Japanese War by Chiang Kai-shek, who led Kuomintang party at that time. He blames the United States for a "trap" that forced Japan into starting the war between the two countries. He also says "we need to realize that many Asian countries take a positive view of the Greater East Asia War," claiming that the local people in the Korean Peninsula and the former Manchuria were liberated from oppression and their standard of living markedly improved, under Japan's colonial rule.

Tamogami apparently skipped a procedure, which is provided by a Ministry's internal rule, of obtaining pre-publication permission for an essay by an SDF member. Tamogami submitted this essay with a title meaning "Was Japan an aggressor nation?" for an essay contest hosted by a Tokyo-based company, and won the top prize.


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Comments:Thailand's "Truth Today", Thaksin tonight; pro-government protesters mass at stadium

= Is Thaksin's rural support base something you believe he 'bought'? =

Freedom
The PAD party has no idea what democracy is....there is no freedom of speech or freedom of press.

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When the government threatens to fine or imprison people for expressing their views...there is no democracy..they violate the very basic principals of democracy. It's a shame that the monarchy just sits back on the throne and lets all this happen..when they have the power to stop it...maybe the monarchy is part of the problem! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.169.33.47 (talk) 15:39, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

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I agree ^ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.213.255.137 (talk) 23:21, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

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Yes
There are many evidents that Thaksin gains his support by his money. Although he might not actually pay it directly, but we cannot deny the fact that he ‘s using his political power and business to influence others, or in some case, we could say he manipulates them, even the government court by his power and especially his 'money'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.160.212.175 (talk) 05:44, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Japan's Air Self-Defense chief fired over essay on wartime history

The requirement that the Japanese state accept responsibility for the war is valid on a moral level, at least for their majority part. However, analysis of the precise events leading to the violence is also appropriate. Other nations should accept moral responsibility for their minor parts too, KMT in Taiwan especially. Making Japan solely responsible was a diplomatic solution after the war, and was absolutely appropriate during the reconstruction to safeguard against nationalists regaining power. There does need to be a reevaluation with greater historical perspective now but that is the job of historians not SDF officials. The way I see this the biggest part is the limitation on the use of force by Japan and the implications that reevaluation can have on changing where that limit actually is. I believe Japan should exercise more of its strength to help all people. While there is no place for an expansionist Japan there are a lot of situations where Japan could do more to help resolve conflicts and protect refugees while keeping its resolve for peace. 65.1.135.117 14:47, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

 * While there is nothing wrong with re-evaluating the past, there simply isn't argument to excuse Japan's full responsibility in her aggression. To say that Japan was somehow "forced" into the war by either the USA or the KMT is to ignore the fact that Japan had been a colonial aggressor long before the wars.  Yes, by the start of the conflict we could reasonably say that Japan had few options other than plunging herself into the war, but the Japanese militarist government had driven herself to this point with very little help from other nations.  And to even suggest Japanese occupiasion as benevolent is simply an insult on the colonized and the clear-minded.
 * That said, I agree that Japan should be able to excercise her power for the "greater good", whatever that may be. And I think the Japanese people needs to recover their confidence lost through the wars.  Just as Germany was able to fully regain her military importance and identity, Japan can as well.  But the Japanese revisionists' approach to this -- through denial of the past -- simply isn't the way to go.  Only by fully accepting Japan's past evils can she re-emerge without the baggage that weighs her down still. 92.128.98.46 18:06, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

transcript of essay
do you have a link to the essay in english? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.137.245.200 (talk) 17:53, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I am not aware of one. Sorry, --SVTCobra 22:18, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

He earned it. Denial of history is a very bad habit for a Defense Minister - Lex
 * I don't think General Tamogami is denying that Japan is in many ways responsible for the Pacific War, but even modern Japanese history is much much longer than that. I think there is some real merit to the idea that as bad as the Japanese occupation became later on, it was still a step in improving residents quality of life. As bad as it appears now to contemporary eyes, when compared to the history of these areas in the years before their occupation there are improvements. Korea was basically a slave to China paying tribute to prevent invasion and destruction. The modest improvements can not excuse Japan's later bad actions, but in the same vein completely dismissing those improvements because of those bad actions is shortsighted at best. 72.146.170.54 21:10, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

no

No More "Holy" War for a Japan-directed Greater Asia
Yes, no doubt about it.

Do you think that the government was right to fire General Tamogami?
I believe that the Japanese government has overreacted over alphabetical letters and puntuation marks. An essay is just an essay.


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Comments:General who oversaw military tribunals at Guantanamo is being investigated for abuse of power

= Do you believe Brigadier General Hartmann abused power? =

Guantanamo is a stain on the American flag. Theres no doubt he abused his power, as Guantanamo in itself is an abuse of Americas power. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.213.255.137 (talk) 18:28, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

 * The ACLU and the liberals that defend the Terrorist are the stain on the American Flag —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.21.217 (talk) 01:28, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

 * So let me get this right, the ACLU, upholding the actual rights of people are the ones acting against the U.S.? So is it back to "We had to destroy the village in order to save it." again already? To actively destroy the things the nation was created for while claiming to protect it is shameful. 65.1.135.117 04:01, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Fair trials don't only protect those charged with crimes. They protect the general public.  Show trials, that unfairly convict innocent men, leave the guilty at large, they curtail the search for the actual guilty parties.  66.229.21.217, no one has suggested the truly guilty go free.  But we don't know who they are.  While some politically partisan observers, and politically partisan officers, like Hartmann, Geoffrey Miller and Harry Harris, have assured the public that everyone held in Guantanamo was guilty, the thounsands of pages of documents the DoD has published from their Combatant Status Review Tribunals do not establish that.  Contrary to claims by partisans, the allegations filed against the captives in their Summary of Evidence memos establish that only a small fraction of the captives could be described as being "captured on the battlefield" -- for any meaningful definition of battlefield.  And, in my personal opinion, the documents make pretty clear that a big share of that small fraction who were captured on or near a battlefield were merely innocent bystanders.

 * The public will be much safer if the captives are given fair trials. Fair trials provide a kind of sanity checking of the allegations against suspects.  And the allegations used to justify the detention of the captives show that this sanity checking has been desperately needed this last seven years.  A few examples:
 * Over a hundred captives faced the allegation that their name, or "known alias", was found on a suspicious list. But many of these captives real names only vaguely resembled the names the USA held them under.
 * A little publicized fact is that the Guantanamo authorities were unwilling or unable to figure out how the captives real names. Arabic and Pashtun names are tricky to transcribe into a English.  And the evidence suggests the Guantanamo authorities simply couldn't be bothered to do a competent job of it.
 * Back in 2004 the Bush administration started to claim that some former Guantanamo captives had tricked their way out of detention, that they had been Taliban leaders. One of the men they named they called "Mullah Shahzada".  What the documents show, however, is that there were two captives interrogators thought was a Taliban leader named "Mullah Shahzada".  One of them was a school-teacher, who had lived out the Taliban regime in Pakistan, who had a cast-iron alibi.  During the seven years this guy was accused of being the senior Taliban intelligence officer in Mazari Sharif his time cards and pay stubs would show he was a high school teacher in Pakistan.  By mid-2003, with the help of Red Cross observers, he received enough letters to establish he was not Mullah Shahzada, the Taliban leader.  But, what did the Guantanamo authorities do?  Their unwillingness to effectively maintain a single set of records for each captive meant that they released the wrong guy -- the one who actually was a Taliban leader.  The innocent guy remained in Guantanamo for another four years.
 * Or consider Abdullah Khan. He was denounced by Afghan criminals seeking the substantial bounties the USA hands out for information leading to the capture of members of the Taliban.  They told the highly credulous American intelligence officers that Abdullah Khan was really Khirullah Khairkhwa, the Taliban's Governor of Herat.  Khan has testified that his interrogators kept insisting he was lying about his identity, that they knew he was really Khirullah Khairkhwa.  When he arrived in Guantanamo other captives told him that the Americans had captured the real Khirullah Khairkhwa a year and a half before his capture, and that Khairkhwa was also being held in Guantanamo, just a few hundred yards away.  When his interrogators insisted he was really Khirullah Khairkhwa, he testified he pleaded with them to check the prison roster, so they could see they already held the real Khirullah Khairkhwa.  It took him almost three years to be repatriated, and the Guantanamo authorities never acknowledged he was not Khirullah.
 * Or consider fourteen year old Mohammed Al Guarani -- captured in Pakistan in 2001. He was accused of being one of the lieutenants of Abu Qatada, in the 1990s, an imam in London who was alleged to be associated al Qaeda.  His School records show he was attending Primary School in Saudi Arabia at the time he was accused of being a suspicious radical in London.

 * The military failed to bring sanity checking to the allegations. Public safety demands we let the courts provide that sanity checking.  Geo Swan (talk) 14:02, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

The entire military tribunal at Guantanamo is an illegal abuse of power. This case is merely military housekeeping - who didn't salute whom. It does nothing to address the outrageous reality: The U.S. now holds about 255 men at Guantanamo, and says that it expects to file war crimes charges against about 80 of them. This is not the justice that we should aspire to as Americans. This is the real abuse of power. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.232.113.186 (talk) 20:24, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


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User talk:Victor falk~enwikinews

Welcome
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Your article
I hope you don't mind, I added some templates and modified a few sentences/links. Looks like a great start to an article! -  Amgine | t 04:47, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Victor falk. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Victor falk~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Comments:Largest mass extinction in 65 million years underway, scientists say

That chart of the global temperatures shown in the article was disproved, not global warming, but just the accuracy of the chart.

poor animals =(
i feel sorry for these poor animals... its not even their fault... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.64.167 (talk) 06:11, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "50 species died out yesterday...."
50 species died out yesterday...go on...name one of them. —122.24.153.27 (talk) 05:00, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "wikipedia is the best all the ..."
wikipedia is the best all the info i found was reliable and easily understandable. Keep it up wikipedia for being the best there is!!!!!!!!!! —190.213.122.226 (talk) 15:09, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

 * You appear to be on the wrong site. Wikinews is not Wikipedia. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:12, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "i wouldve liked way more large..."
i wouldve liked way more large mass extinction —70.70.213.213 (talk) 02:44, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "scaremongering"
scaremongering —178.167.214.87 (talk) 22:04, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

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VERY USEFUL THANKS —186.114.57.18 (talk) 16:53, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

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the numbers on the amount of species are outdated. Recent studies show that there could is more then 50 million species on our planet and we only know of about 10 million. I read this in a NY Times article that i cant seem to find but it is a reliable source. this is no more than a consipiracy and even if it was true it would be wrong for us to prevent unless it meant the end of life on earth. —71.125.238.192 (talk) 22:41, 6 October 2011 (UTC)


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Talk:Barack Obama elected 44th President of the United States

Generic version
Would it be possible to have a generic version of this, that is not time/data sensitive? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 22:18, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

OR
Witnessed on BBC LIve at about 11:02 EST, and CNN not too long after. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:08, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * BBC 306. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * McCain quotes from live press conference, speech. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:20, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

There seems to be nothing in this that merits OR. Everything can be sourced. "I watched TV" is still not OR. --SVTCobra 01:10, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The concession speech by McCain and Obama's acceptance for starters. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:26, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * These are both readily available online. There is no need to cite quotes from these as OR. It was OK while the story was breaking and the speeches were live. At this point, it should be properly sourced and any discrepancies should be fixed. NPR has transcripts here: McCain and Obama. --SVTCobra 02:17, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * At the time they were not online. At the time the quotes were gathered from their live speeches. If the speeches appeared online a day after or more, then I don't think it makes sense to add sources for them. Would we do that for any other OR? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:47, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree with DragonFire1024. Once the story is 24 hours old don't add sources - it makes the story anachronistic, and misrepresents the reporter's news gathering process in the archives. I suggest adding the links to the transcripts to the OR notes. --InfantGorilla (talk) 12:12, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Final Tally (Predictions)
MSNBC 333 Obama / 146 McCain

CNN 306 Obama / 145 McCain

broadcast report
Refers to speech and surrounding commentary heard at 0500 UTC. Anonymous101talk 05:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Notes:
 * We saw / wondered power of democracy. This shows the answer
 * People belive this time must be different
 * people hope of better times
 * Praises McCain
 * time for change come
 * Thanks Joe Biden
 * Grandmother (dead) watching
 * Thanks campaign organiser/chief strategist and rest of team
 * Thanks people who donated//volunteered
 * Government of/by/for people with Obama
 * Long/steep/road ahead - make not even be fixed in a year
 * Will be setbacks
 * Obama pledes to be honest
 * this is not change it is oppotunity for change
 * Resist partisanship/pettiness
 * new dawn of American leadership

Anonymous101talk 05:32, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

 * What I said about OR (see above) applies here too. Anything that is solely sourced as "I saw it on TV" can easily be sourced to proper sources, available online (nearly everywhere). If you claim something that is not in "print" (read: online), please create a clear and distinct section for any material that cannot be sourced in the traditional manner. --SVTCobra 02:36, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Seriously about the title
Do we REALLY need to keep bringing up the racial aspect and title this "...becomes first black president of the United States"??? How about we just title it "Barack Obama elected 44th President of the United States". I mean, for christ sake, let's look at the guy that is a President that HAPPENS to be black, not a black president. HE IS THE PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE ENTIRE NATION, not just black people. Shame on you whoever titled this.
 * Good point. renamed. Anonymous101talk 05:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Total Fixed
I fixed the total number of votes in the PrezResult08 template. I just totaled up the number of votes listed for each candidate. I came up with 115,878,227. The original number was somewhere around 87,000,000.

The change is still waiting approval.

--Prices (talk) 13:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Cool free images
Check out these maps, they're CC licensed! He says he'll update them when final results are in. Delldot (talk) 17:12, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

 * They are very interesting, but some (if not all) of the modifications from a standard map are made per a certain POV. Maps are not only adjusted for population size, but for area. The blend of this is what is arbitrary and up to this person. The images are "beautiful" for lack of a better word, however, I just don't think they fit here. --SVTCobra 02:43, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Good luck
barack obama you are so very great president of USA I hope and my country hope you good luck —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.97.137.48 (talk) 06:56, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

(moved to opinion page)

Electoral college votes
Barack Obama has 364 electoral votes, not 349 as your article states. (Numerous websites www.politico.com,www.270towin.com,www.npr.com,www.yahoopolitics.com,www.washingtonpost.com/politics, etc....) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurence Gilcrest (talk • contribs) 18:22, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

The article was written on Wednesday based on forecast electoral college votes. Counting continued in several states for the next couple of days. Does that account for the discrepancy? --InfantGorilla (talk) 01:40, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

In the results there is a error? 27 + 21 + 1 = 49 not 50 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.59.140.95 (talk) 14:31, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

+ Nebraska ? --InfantGorilla (talk) 19:49, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Edit request
This page should be updated to reflect McCain winning Missouri.70.162.229.48 02:26, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

 * Disagree - that would make the story anachronistic. The story was published on Nov 5, but I don't think Missouri was called until Nov 19.  The story was correct to report Missouri as 'too close'.  --InfantGorilla (talk) 22:46, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Please add バラク・オバマ氏、44代アメリカ大統領に当選 .--Game-M (talk) 22:43, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ In the future please include editprotected so it doesn't get overlooked. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:54, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand it now. Thank you.--Game-M (talk) 02:37, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


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Third party U.S. presidential candidates hold debate

November 2, 2008

This past Thursday, the leading third party U.S. presidential candidates held a debate at the Cleveland City Center in Cleveland, Ohio. In attendance were Independent Ralph Nader, Constitution Party nominee Chuck Baldwin and Libertarian Party nominee former Congressman Bob Barr. This is the first, and presumably last, debate between the three before the election is held on Tuesday.

Despite their radically different political beliefs, all of the candidates' opinions on one issue were similar: outrage at being shunned from the debates between Republican Party nominee John McCain and Democratic Party nominee Barack Obama over the past months. "Both major parties are very clever," Nader said. "They don't like competition. If they were businesses in the marketplace, they would be indicted for violation of the antitrust laws."

Baldwin voiced his concerns about the growth of the federal government as well as the troubled global economy. He said that the "two major parties will do nothing to thwart or diminish what is currently happening...I believe with all my heart that our sovereignty and our national independence are hanging by a very precarious thread."

Barr stated his opinion that both McCain and Obama are indistinguishable on policy positions and accused them of "sound-bite politics" as well as showing "no leadership whatsoever." He also found it odd that the Department of Justice was absent during this autumn's financial crisis. "There have been no prosecutions, not even apparently a significant investigation of what appears to be historic fraud," he said.

At this time, it is unknown how many tuned in to see the debate when it was broadcast nationally on C-SPAN both Friday and Saturday. As of Sunday, any other media coverage has been minimal, a far cry from last week's debate between Nader and Baldwin in Washington, DC.


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Comments:Democratic challenger to North Carolina senator Elizabeth Dole files libel lawsuit

Well someone forgot to do a background check. --66.229.21.217 23:15, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


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Source on DC debate
Do you have a source for the DC debate gaining more attention? Otherwise article is fine. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 01:21, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it's OR. However, I'll remove that sentence from the article since I have no actual source for it. --WNewsReporter (talk) 04:54, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


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Christian Science Monitor to cease daily print publication

November 2, 2008

The Christian Science Monitor has announced plans to cease daily print publication. The newspaper employs 95 correspondents and 8 foreign bureaus and has won 7 Pulitzer Prizes, making it the most prominent newspaper to transition to online publication. It is due to celebrate its one hundredth anniversary later this month. The move has other major newspapers wondering whether this is the future of mainstream journalism.

Editor John Yemma stated "It is the future for many papers, but because we are not-for-profit we are not exactly a model for for-profit publications." The Monitor receives its funding from the Christian Science Church, but is nonsectarian and does not proselytize, and the Church has no say in its editorial policy. The newspaper was founded in 1908 by Christian Science founder Mary Baker Eddy as a reaction against partisan journalism.

The new publication format will be a website updated daily, with subscribers receiving e-mail briefs of major stories and a 44 page weekly magazine. According to a report in The Independent, the weekly magazine "will carry separate original content." The Monitor has made this announcement as a response to rising print publication costs and falling subscriptions. The actual changeover from a Monday through Friday publication five days a week to a single weekly magazine will occur in April 2009.

Yemma predicts that within the next five years, economic constraints will force most other newspapers to make similar changes. A small number of local newspapers made similar changes before the Monitor announced its plans. Two examples are The Capital Times and The Daily Telegram respectively of Madison, Wisconsin and Superior, Wisconsin.

Ken Doctor of Outsell Inc. assessed the economic situation for The New York Times. 92 percent of a typical newspaper's revenue comes from its print edition, so the cost of ceasing print publication exceeds the benefit in savings for most newspapers. The Monitor has an unusual funding profile, with significant resources coming from an endowment and donations. Most of its print revenue comes from subscriptions rather than from advertising. Nonetheless, industry trends led Brennon Slattery of PC World to predict this may be the first of a series of major print newspaper closings.


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Comments:Christian Science Monitor to cease daily print publication

It's about time somebody reported this. Newsprint, except for hyperlocal stuff (and that's only a matter of time) is dead. Media knows this.

I'm still not seeing a response. Is that because they are media stupid?

We as Americans, certainly are media stupid, with the war on terrorism.

Newspapers in Transition
I actually think that this is the way most newspapers will go eventually. As readership drops, and with it the ad revenue that fuels most papers, they're going to have to go where the readers are and that is, increasingly, online. I used to read my local paper every day faithfully. But since moving to my present address, and having to cancel my newspaper because it was being stolen every day, I started getting more and more news online. I can customize what I want to read, it's always there whenever I'm ready for it, doesn't leave ink on my hands and doesn't need to be bundled up and put out with the trash. I also don't have to weed through 5 pounds of advertising on a Sunday to read a half pound of news. And it's FREE! If there's anything I want to share with my friends I can either email it or print it out. What's NOT to like about that? On the other hand, print newspapers will be missed in some areas; paper training puppies, putting under cat litter boxes and bird cages, shredded for packing material for fragile objects, parents and teachers will have to find something else to put under kids messy art and craft projects and some artists will need a substitute for their papier mache' art works, the homeless will miss it as insulation for their coats and cardboard shelters, and people without computers will miss it as well. And yet, think of how many trees will be saved because there won't be the need for all that newsprint. Who knows what will happen a few years down the road, but I don't think the 'Monitor' will be the last paper to go digital. We'll see...207.69.137.15 —Preceding comment was added at 08:29, 17 November 2008 (UTC)


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F1: Massa wins 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix, Hamilton wins championship

November 3, 2008 Ferrari driver Felipe Massa won yesterday's FIA Formula One (F1) 2008 Grande Prêmio Santander Brazilian Grand Prix at Autódromo José Carlos Pace, São Paulo, Brazil. Lewis Hamilton, who drives for McLaren, was able to hold on to take the F1 Driver's Championship. He had a seven point lead in the season standings entering the Brazilian Grand Prix.

Fernando Alonso came second while his Renault team mate Nelson Piquet Jr. slipped in the Senna's S-curve and broke his car's rear due to the wet track.

Massa's teammate Kimi Räikkönen came third.

On the final lap, Sebastian Vettel passed Lewis Hamilton, with help from the lapped Kubica, seemingly taking the championship chance from the McLaren driver.

However, in the short straight before the final corner "Juncao",Timo Glock lost traction due to being on dry weather tyres in the wet conditions and lost his position to Vettel. Hamilton also passed him to win the Drivers' championship of the 2008 Formula One season.

Massa missed out on the season title by just one point. Ferrari maintained the lead over McLaren to win the F1 Constructors' Championship.


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 * Just please do not do it again. Thanks, Cirt (talk) 22:58, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

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Please do not post copyvio to pages on this site, as you did and was removed here. Thank you. Cirt (talk) 10:41, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

 * As I have previously stated here, I am pretty convinced that this author's sublime poetry, already deceased, that I have inadvertedly copied to the above mentioned collaboration page, is released in public domain. Not being totally sure, perhaps the Rosicrucian Fellowship may clarify this ownership issue unto us. --Vilalva (talk) 14:30, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
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Talk:F1: Massa wins 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix, Hamilton wins championship

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--Brian McNeil / talk 10:47, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

The paragraph that starts "On the last wet lap ..." is very hard to read and appears to have factual errors. --SVTCobra 16:03, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It ties with the first source, although this is sports speak. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not the "subida dos boxes" reference. Try to read it slowly ... it is very convoluted ... also confusing (referring to someone as the McLaren driver when there are two on the track).  I'd work on it myself, but I am at my paying work and the British Pound is falling.--SVTCobra 17:33, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I finally had time to make the changes that I felt were appropriate. --SVTCobra 00:34, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I have edited this article to correct the factual errors and make it read better. 6 Nov —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.82.37.47 (talk) 13:28, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

png -> svg replacement
editprotected Please replace the PNG raster image with the essentially identical SVG vector image. Just need to replace the image file extension (.png -> .svg), as the filename is the same. Cherkash (talk) 21:26, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Cf. Talk:Kimi Räikkönen wins 2007 Brazilian Grand Prix and the 2007 Championship. --Pi zero (talk) 21:50, 13 November 2017 (UTC)


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University of Alabama football team clinches No. 1 spot in AP poll

November 3, 2008

The University of Alabama's football team, the Crimson Tide, has reached the top spot in the Associated Press's weekly college football rankings. Forty-six of the sixty-five sportswriters from across the country agreed Alabama's 35–0 win over Arkansas State on Saturday was the best game in the country, giving Alabama the top spot in the rankings.

Once a storied football program under former coach Paul "Bear" Bryant, who led the Crimson Tide to six national championship titles, the team had slipped from its former glory in recent years. With the AP Poll's most recent publication on Sunday morning, the Crimson Tide, only one of four Division I teams undefeated and the only one undefeated in the Southeastern Conference, has taken the top spot for the first time during the regular football season since 1980.

The Tuscaloosa News remarked that the win on Saturday was a good gift for coach Nick Saban, who turned 57 on Friday. On Sunday, a brief statement was issued to reporters by Saban, in which he said, "We appreciate the interest shown to our team, but rankings at this time of the season do not define anything relative to the postseason...Our concern is our preparation to play a very good LSU team [Saturday], and these external factors can not affect our planning, schedule or focus on the task at hand."

The game next Saturday is crucial to the Crimson Tide, as it will effectively decide who will play in the Southeastern Conference championship game. Louisiana State University (LSU), a powerhouse in past seasons, suffered two losses this season. Alabama hopes to clinch its first conference championship since 1999 and dethrone LSU, the current reigning national champion in college football.


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Grandmother of Barack Obama dies at 86

November 3, 2008 Madelyn Dunham, the maternal grandmother of United States 2008 presidential candidate Barack Obama, has died of cancer at 86, just one day before the election.

Dunham, who was born in Peru, Kansas in 1922, helped to raise Obama from the age of 10. She lived in Honolulu, Hawaii for most of her life, where she died peacefully in her apartment shortly before midnight local time.

"It is with great sadness that we announce that our grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, has died peacefully after a battle with cancer. She was the cornerstone of our family, and a woman of extraordinary accomplishment, strength, and humility," said Obama and his sister Maya Soetoro-Ng in a joint statement to the press.

During his acceptance speech for Democratic presidential nominee he noted her with the words, "She's the one who put off buying a new car or a new dress for herself so that I could have a better life... She poured everything she had into me."

Obama took time out from his presidential campaign in October to visit her at her bedside a week before she died.

Obama's opponent John McCain also issued a statement saying his "thoughts and prayers go out" to Obama and his family.

"We offer our deepest condolences to Barack Obama and his family as they grieve the loss of their beloved grandmother. Our thoughts and prayers go out to them as they remember and celebrate the life of someone who had such a profound impact in their lives," said McCain in a statement to the press.

title: Grandmother of Barack Obama dies at 86