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User talk:Mrmiscellanious/Archive2

International Context
[] there is more than the connection of simply breaking up a party. Ok hte CzechTek this thing was not 100% legal but it was at least a discussable overuse/misuse of state/police power to abort the festival. So some free european online journals also draw an analogy between this two events see

[] [] [] Diskurs 23:23, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Duplicates..
I understand. But the link that you provided is, well, not really an article. I can't really duplicate a non existant article, can I? 71.247.229.99 22:28, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

No Personal Attacks
I feel as though you are making personal attacks and threats on me; "As of now, "Neutralizer" you are very heavily stepping on the boundaries of the NPOV policy." and you said it on an article discussion page.
 * Please stop it. You said something about treading on NPOV. Please expand and clarify exactly what you are talking about. As far as I am concerned ; you are the one with too much POV. If it's too POV just edit it out, is that too much trouble? Neutralizer 23:03, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Brazilian "suspicious character"
It sounds as if you don't realize that the term,for the purposes of the latest story, was yours and yours alone. There was nothing in the story or sources whatsoever indicating the dead mad was a "suspicious character" and yet you put that characterization of him right in the headline. Since you do not see anything wrong with that; I don't see how anyone else can explain it to you. Nothing personal, I just have difficulty relating to your way of thinking. Hmmmm. Maybe I can explain it like this. You are on a jury where a policeman is charged with manslaughter for shooting an unarmed man in the head 5 times at close range; and on the first day; before any testimony; another juror says to you; "I read in the paper that the police said that the dead guy was a suspicious character". A; What would you think about the other juror? B; Would you pass on that information to other jury members? Neutralizer 04:07, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I thought he sounded like a "suspicious character", based on supposed eyewitness accounts that he:

 * 1) Was wearing a thick, padded coat in July.

 * 2) Refused to stop when challenged by police and ran to the subway car.

 * Those eyewitnesses were apparently lying, but we weren't the only ones fooled. The mainstream press was also fooled. StuRat 22:43, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Briefs
As I understand it, you need to add the Brief Category to your briefs, otherwise they end up in Developing Stories. And then Dan100 goes round deleting them, etc etc :) ClareWhite 16:04, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Cats on Hotel quarantined after anthrax scare in US state of Michigan
I've put back the cat's on the article Hotel quarantined after anthrax scare in US state of Michigan, which is basically what I have on task to do for tomorrow (is to start the cat's for MI). --Mrmiscellanious 21:25, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * OK, I will leave them alone. A couple thoughts:

 * 1) Adding the categories before you link to them would avoid ever having any bad links and would keep me (and others) from deleting said bad links.

 * 2) Aren't we getting a bit too specific in the categories ? Unless we actually have a reporter in Midland or Midland county, this may be the only story in those categories for a long time.

 * StuRat 21:34, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

BTW, I love the title of this section "Cats on Hotel quarantined...". What, do they have feline distemper ? Somebody get those diseased cats off the roof ! LOL StuRat 13:51, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

New Main Page design proposal
I invite you and others to see Main Page Talk, where I have proposed a new Main Page for Wikinews. Best wishes, NGerda 16:15, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

censorship by US government?
Regarding your raising the concept that the US government might censor us, I think this is completely silly and I would like to ask you to reconsider your remark. I placed this on the water cooler discussion:

 * Mr Miscellanious, this is a rather absurd accusation. You should be embarassed about it.  We have here in the United States the First Amendment, which I will defend to the death if necessary.  There is absolutely zero chance of anything like what you are suggesting happening here.  Believe me, if I am ever contacted by any government agent depanding that we shut down or tone down a story, it will be a huge international news story.  Period.

Raising FUD about what we are doing is not helpful. There are real things to be concerned about, and spreading the idea internationally that the US (despite being the best jurisdiction in the world for the kind of thing we're doing) might censor us, is irresponsible. --Jimbo Wales 15:02, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I would like to point out that there are certain cases where we should support censorship, such as when a court tries to keep the name of a witness to a Mafia killing secret, so the Mafia can't find and murder the witness. Publishing such a name here would be thoroughly irresponsible and tantamount to murder, IMO.  This was a fictional case, but we had a real case recently where we published a list of alleged UK spies, which could endanger their lives and the lives of the people they endeavor to protect by discovering terrorist plots, like 9-11, the Madrid train bombings, and the UK subway/bus bombings (the harm we did was reduced by the fact that this list was published elsewhere first).  Of course, there are many other cases where censorship is purely to protect politicians, like when Bush tries to keep info on the alleged weapons of mass destruction in Iraq secret.  Thus, we should consider each attempt at secrecy on it's merits and self-censor ourselves if the motive of the censorship is just, but not if the motive is unjust. StuRat 22:33, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

The way I see it is that when governments become repressive or even fascist; it doesn't usually happen overnight. Hitler came to power long before he started killing Jews. The process always includes fear of perceived and real government powers and also a sense of patriotism whereby the citizens feel they have to "protect" their government and society by censoring themselves and others; and by reporting others; in effect becoming citizen informants. So,unfortunately, that seems to be the direction America/UK is headed and since wikinews(English) has so many westerners, it's predictable,imo, that we would also head in that direction(more self censorship and administrative controls). I don't think the younger people here can imagine how pissed off I get to see that an american can be arrested for holding a protest sign[][] or singing a new song by M&M or an old song by Dylan (that apparently includes lyrics which someone may interpret as being a threat to the president)[] [].

These new laws now in place (patriot act,threatening the President) feed the self censoring mentality and cause the citizens to empower the government even more by abandoning what little freedoms we have left. Martin Luther King was convicted over 50 times and his marches on Washington would not be allowed today. Today; anyone convicted more than a few times for civil disobedience would soon find themselves in jail for life; so the fact is; freedom of speech and the press have been severely curtailed and are close to downright castration. Even being a successful author does not guarantee one's freedom of speech anymore[]"He(Hunter Thompson) sounded almost sorry he had threatened the life of Dubya’s dad during a speech at Marquette University. “To an auditorium filled with 3,000 Jesuit gentlemen, no less,” he sighed. He compared then–Vice President Bush to Nazi architect and Hitler buddy Albert Speer. Called him the “meanest yuppie who ever lived.” Described him as an “evil demoniac politician.” Thompson admitted to me, “I got carried away. I said in fact that George Bush is so guilty that if you of the Jesuit persuasion believe what your faith believes, then you would have to stomp George Bush to death.” He paused. “Then I called for a vote. They believed it, 2 to 1.” The old Thompson would have dismissed the outburst as funny, like the time he accused NBC newsman John Chancellor of spiking his drink with black acid. But not after the Secret Service came out from Denver to talk to him, and an “agent said my life might become a series of terrible misunderstandings if I even thought about going to Washington without consulting him first.”

From J.Wales comments, it appears to me that he may not realize how bad it has gotten in the past 3 years and,to me,Mr.Miscellanious's comments(and others) are more indicative of the citizenry shifting toward a general acknowledement and acceptance of how one testicle of our freedoms of speech,association and the press has already been chopped off; and the bloddy hatchet is in the air ready to come down on the other one. The only chance we have is to fight back like hell right now; but do we have the will?

So I have to agree with both Mr.M and J.Wales; The U.S. government can shut us down; but only if we(the people) let them. Paulrevere2005 12:07, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Nuance
There is no 'nuance' here. I hope we all try to allow for that. I hope we all try to write for that. I hope your skin is as thick as I think it is. -Edbrown05 20:07, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Can you define what you mean by "nuance" ? StuRat 22:36, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I was separated from my wife for a period of nearly two months recently while she was visiting/helping her Mom. Besides using the telephone, as a novelty we also stayed in touch by using 'internet chat' software. I've known Pat for 20 years. It took all of those 20 years of knowing her to understand what she meant by her written words. -Edbrown05 00:06, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

RE: Deleting others comments
i was partly cleaning up and removed a little too much with that i guess, but i stand with removing one bad remark, if that is vandalism im happy to be banned for it. some things simply shouldn't be posted and will only give this place a bad name and cause flame wars that aren't allowed either. the stuff i did remove and were put back are pretty typical in my opinion, wiki news isn't a soapbox but that user is constantly using the talkpage for that goal. even going back in every related news and adding the comment to talk also. Boneyard 08:24, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree that there are things that should be removed from talk pages, but they should be really bad, like death threats, to deserve such treatment. Things that are just stupid, annoying, and redundant should be ignored instead.  I would also like to see 2 discussion pages, the existing one for discussions on changes to the main page plus a page for people to list general opinions.  Hopefully this would serve as a "lightning rod" for people to list conspiracy theories, their alien abduction stories, etc. and thus keep the REAL discussion page free of that crap. StuRat 11:37, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

News Contest
Fellow judge, I could use your input on how to handle an issue that has come up, at the "Judge's Forum" section here:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:International_Wikinews_Writing_Contest

Thank you, StuRat 13:20, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Good enough?
Is this good enough to replace the copyvio version, or should I added in mentions of the car bomb, the rescue, etc?--Jason 20:49, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
 * How about now?--Jason 22:42, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

The awards...
There are three which I should give you. The persistance award, for vandal (and troll) fighting/tolerance, and the silver trophy for your many excellent contributions and edits. But the one I'm giving is the Barnstar for achievement. Thank you very much! - 24.85.70.132 01:00, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Me tears up! --Mrmiscellanious 01:02, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Help !
Note to other English-language judges: I feel I am doing a disproportionate amount of the judging of English-language articles. Ideally, I would like to see all judges render an opinion on all articles in their language. I will not be doing any judging today, so could especially use some help now. Also, please respond to the issues I have raised on previous dates in the Judge's Forum:

 * m:Talk:International_Wikinews_Writing_Contest

 * m:Talk:International_Wikinews_Writing_Contest

 * m:Talk:International_Wikinews_Writing_Contest

 * m:Talk:International_Wikinews_Writing_Contest

StuRat 14:23, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Good luck
I would like to thank you for volunteering to improve the AOL/Microsoft article. You're the best 66.111.38.110 23:28, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

What's the problem with the article? You said it needed two sources, I added one. Just stop interfering please unless you have a sensible explanation. Coqsportif 01:49, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Frankly I'd doubt you know. Stop interfering with the article if you have nothing to contribute. Sorry to sound mean. Coqsportif 01:52, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Don't want to sound mean, but I'm just totally not interested in your opinion unless you have specific criticism. Your assertion that it is unpublishable is completely unsubstantiated. You said it needed another source, I added one. Now your criticism is too broad to be meaningful. Be specific or buzz off. Coqsportif 01:57, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you, very much and I'm glad to be apart of the Admin team. --TUFKAAP 01:31, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you for the "support" vote towards my accreditation! Hopefully, many people will think the same towards me, and I will be able to contribute to a further degree. —M ESSED R OCKER (talk) 22:48, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Commandos
I removed the NPOV tag you had attached to French ferry raided by military forces. First, the normal practice is to discuss what elements you think are not NPOV on the talk page, which you did not do.

Second, though I replaced "commandos" by other vocabulary, I disagree with your claim that "commando" is slang or unprofessional. I note that the definition of commando in an English dictionary is a member of a military unit trained as shock troops for hit-and-run raids, with no mention of slang. Second, several sources claim that the group that boarded the ship included personnel from the Commandos de Marine, which are exactly that: shock troops used for amphibious assaults. The rest of the group was from the GIGN, which is also a military unit trained for law-enforcement raids. Submarine 07:13, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Google DNS
Regarding the Google DNS article: Yes, the error did happen previously, however it happened again today. Tropical storms happen for an entire season and they are still reported on — why should technology news be any different?

arbales

Current DNS failure -
Actually, there was a dns failure yesterday becuase some users were again redirected to SoGoSearch. I used multiple computers and browsers to verify this.

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Putin’s state-of-the-nation speech addresses the economy

April 26, 2005

Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke live on state television Monday in his annual state-of-the-nation address using high ideological rhetoric when calling on lawmakers and the public to strengthen democracy and the rule of law. His 50 minute address from the Kremlin's Marble Hall only briefly touched on the "epidemic of collapse", a reference to upheavals in Chechnya, Kyrgyzstan and the Ukraine, which was "a real drama" stranding millions of Russians beyond the borders of the Russian Federation.

Brushing off what was probably taken as criticism during last week's visit by Condoleezza Rice who commented the Kremlin ran a "managed democracy", Putin stressed that "Russia ... will decide for itself the pace, terms and conditions of moving towards democracy."

Putin was critical of the lack of progress in implementing his reform proposals. Calling for a crackdown on corruption, where treatment by tax inspectors are "terrorizing business", he addressed concerns of the business community by condemning a series of back-tax bills like the ones that dismembered Yukos and face other major Russian corporations.

He was also critical of a bureaucratic attitudes that treat "state service as some type of business". He made clear the need for investment must be met by "rules of the game" that are consistent, saying "Russia is certainly interested in the inflow of private investments on a large scale, including foreign investments. It is our strategic choice and our strategic approach."

Putin called for proposals to index wages to inflation over the next two years, and for the introduction of a flat 13% tax on undeclared earnings in the shadow economy, a slice that represents nearly 35% of the nation's economy, by legalizing what was previously defined as illegal income.

Putin supports the development of a strong state system with determination for Russia to avoid the disarray that led to the collapse of the Soviet Union. Saying, "First and foremost it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century." He sees the need for strengthening the legal system and the political environment to assure a more just society in avoiding a replay of a Russian downfall.

On politics, he pointedly abandoned the much-used ‘stability' catch phrase of the bureaucracy. Putin signaled to the bureaucratic caste who are on the eve of their upcoming parliamentary and presidential elections they should promote partisanship and civil society.

By studiously avoiding too many references to business, the thrust of his address sought to reassure the small property holder class, rather than big business and other elite investors.


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Wikinews talk:Audio Wikinews

ARCHIVES 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010

Strange
As you know I stopped doing the AW back in August but for some reason the iTunes podcast has been getting a ton of hits lately and the site I use for the feed will be out of bandwidth in a few days. I have no idea what is going on.

Anyway, the reason why I quit probably deserves an explanation.

I had a decision to make : either keep doing it at the expense of everything else going on in my life or quit before I became too invested and burnt out.

The show was hard to do and it took hours to put together a professional product. Mainly this was due to the history segment - the rest of the show was actually pretty easy compared, especially once I was in the habit of recording everyday. I could have just cut the history segment and saved hours of production time, but the history segment was an important aspect of the show as it gave people a reason to listen beyond that of just hearing news that was, at the time of broadcast release, already hours old. Also it drew heavily upon other aspects of wikimedia which is important to help tie all the various wikis together and bring awareness to all the wikimedia projects, not just wikinews. Finally, because I thought the history segments were pretty kick ass most of the time and didn't want to cut them.

However, I didn't see the production actually going anywhere. I was investing a ton of time (as everyone here does) but I didn't feel like I was making any progress. To be honest, it really came down to feedback, or lack thereof. I know that sounds selfish, but I wasn't even getting negative feedback. Keep in mind that it wasn't feedback from anyone who is a wikinews contributor I'm talking about, but from the audience outside of wikinews. Everyone who contributes here was always very generous and helpful and seemed very supportive of the show, it was people who were just listening to the show, the audience, I was interested in hearing from so that I could make changes and produce a better product.

Maybe I didn't give it enough time, maybe I should have stuck with it longer and let the show marinate longer, but I was at a crossroads and had to decide if what I was doing was worth the time I was putting into it so I just stopped while I was ahead.

I miss doing the show a lot and I think about it all the time and still have ideas I would like to explore, but not even knowing if the general audience liked or disliked it is a bit tough to come to terms with when you are investing so much energy into something.

I'm probably being selfish and impatient too. Thinking the show would "take off" so quickly is naive and good work takes being persistent and a long amount of time, but this is a volunteer effort we are all engaged in so instead of pay, it is, I believe anyway, reasonable to think some feedback as payment enough. (And please, keep in mind, I'm not talking abut anyone at all here at wikinews, I'm talking about the audience that I knew was kinda there by tracking downloads but were mute on anything positive or, more importantly, negative to say).

I guess all I can say is that I gave it my best and I loved every second of it, but I learned something about myself and that is I'm just not a dedicated enough person to plod on with something, even something I love, and that I don't have the fortitude to carry on with it in spite of what anyone else thinks.

If anything I'm more disappointed in myself. I wish I had the ability to be like those people who in spite of everything else always carry on because they love what they do and don't care about anything else. I'm just not that tough of an individual.

By the way, I'm not looking for a pat on the back here or fishing for a compliment - it's not like that at all. I'm just trying to be honest with myself and with you. This is a great community and I think highly of every last person here and am extremely grateful for the support all of you gave me and the show. In fact the part I feel the worst about is that I feel like I let everyone here down in a way and it's the people and community here at wikinews that still makes me want to come back and pick up where I left off.

I hope everyone is still doing well and I'm sorry I didn't say anything sooner. Turtlestack (talk) 03:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm of the opinion that a lot of things like AW might be better done weekly. That way, you'd avoid a lot of the burn-out problems. Incidentally, did you ever move beyond that 'toy' Audacity? I did quite a bit of hackery in setting up Ubuntu Studio and it has audio toys that'll blow you away. --Brian McNeil / talk 03:48, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weekly is a possibility, now that you mention it. I'll have to think about that. If it was a once per week show, what would you like to see in it? I'm very open to any ideas along that front. As for Audacity, it does have its limits (of which I pushed every single one of them to their near breaking and crashing point) but I don't use Linux because I would have no idea what I'm doing with it. I could "get" better PC software, but the nice thing about Audacity is that it's free, it's open source and anyone who wanted to contribute to AW would have equal access to it (as well as access the guides I wrote). Also, I fear change :) Turtlestack (talk) 22:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

 * The instant problem thought for me is that as news changes, some stories would need updated for the end-of-week show. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:16, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

 * If only there was some software that allowed users to tracks and make changes to a document in an open and freely accessible system :) Sorry, I was just having some fun there - you are right of course, that is a sticking point, however when I recorded the AW, I did things in small chunks so editing parts to reflect the latest changes would be pretty easy and would involve re-recording 1-2 sentences (or a few paragraphs in the worst case scenario). Also, if the show was released on a Friday (just for example) then the cut-off for new stories could be Thursday allowing for a full day to just edit - news that happened after Thursday could go on the next show. However, I think the bigger problem is making the show relevant. Just rehashing the weeks top stories does not sound inherently interesting from an audience point of view. I mean, why would anyone want to listen to it? The show would need a hook - a reason for people to listen to the whole thing. The one advantage to a daily show was that it was still fresh news but a week is like a century in news years. I want to make a show an audience looks forward to and wants to listen to but every idea I can think so far of goes against NPOV. Turtlestack (talk) 23:39, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Here We Go Again
First, I'd like to personally thank EVERYBODY who has put any effort into this project at all, but especially to Amgine, Bawolff, gumboyaya, Nicholas Turnbull, James Pain and Dan Harlow, who put in a particular amount of hard work to pump out fresh audio files for as long as they did. Everybody has done a tremendous job in trying to pick up this project and take it to the next level. It's not easy, especially once it falls onto your own shoulders.

I've been on an interesting journey since the last time I've been here. When I came here in 2008, I knew a little bit about podcasting and citizen journalism, but just a little. For the previous few years I had been involved in writing articles and recaps about sporting events, and helped to start a small podcast on the subject of professional wrestling. My involvement with Wikinews for a few months taught me a lot about how to research, organize and write news stories, and how to take those stories and translate them into audio show. Unfortunately my involvement here was brief as life took me down a few other roads. During that time, though, I still kept up my involvement in writing about sports and podcasting, and things slowly began to build. At the end of 2010 our website has built one of the largest podcasting syndicates for professional wrestling and combat sports. Not tooting my own horn here, because honestly it snuck up on us and I didn't even realize it until I ran a Google search on our site one day just doing some webmaster duties. I'm now quite busy as producer for four podcasts a week, and manage the syndication for several more, and looking to gain even more shows and more exposure for our shows. I seriously doubt I could be doing all of this if I hadn't put in a few months of work here, and for other people showing me how to do it.

Without a doubt, Audio Wikinews suffers from stability issues, and like many have found out, in the beginning we jump in with a lot of enthusiasm, but by sheer coincidence we come in just as other people are becoming burned out, and much of it falls upon the new people who come in, and by the time a fresh crew is abound the crew that was here is also ready to go. It's a killer cycle, and I've gone through a few spells myself, and with my other podcasting partners as well.

Knowing what I know now compared to what I knew in 2008, and having the hindsight of history as it is documented here, I feel prepared to take on the reigns of the Audio Wikinews project. I won't make any promises that it will be daily newscasts like were dreamed of in the past. Or, perhaps, I won't make much of any promises at all. I'm not going to jump head-first into this myself either, I'm simply too busy to try to wrestle two bulls at once. Instead I'll ease myself into it, and I'll encourage anybody who wants to be involved to also ease themselves back into it. Contribute what you can, when you can, all simply strive to do it to the best of your ability. Even if that is just reading one news story a day and uploading it. Maybe at the end of the week we'll have enough to do a weekly newscast. Or, maybe not. Who knows? I'm prepared to take small steps to get this back on track for the long haul.

I did take liberty to change a few things. First, I'm sure you've noticed by now, I've decided to re-organize the archives here by year. I personally find it more beneficial to see what was discussed and when. And second, I took a few minutes out and recorded some new stories, updated the written articles with the audio, and dusted off the Spoken Wikinews archives. So, let the games begin again, I say! kamnet (talk) 12:19, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

 * As I noted on your talk page, I wish you the very best of luck and I will be more than happy to assist you in taking over the project anyway and anytime you wish. There is just one thing I want to add and I'll just be blunt about it - please keep up the professional quality of the show. My desire for doing the show rested mainly on two things 1) promoting wikinews as the best source of citizen and independent journalism. This is the key to everything and the AWN is a powerful tool to represent the wikinews project as well as wikimedia as a whole as a first class, professional and viable alternative to the MSM and other paid news outlets.

 * My other desire for doing the show was, and this is where I'm going to be blunt, is because I didn't feel the AWN as a product was all that professional until I took it over. Too often the audio was poor (due to the use of cheap microphones), the reading was poor (too many mistakes, lack of flow, too many "um's" and "ah's", too many mispronounced proper nouns, poor editing and very amateur sounding). The show also served very little purpose - it just read the news (often poorly) and no consideration was given to the fact that people are supposed to listen to it. If the broadcast sounds poor, if it seems cheap then why would anyone listen to it? The audience must be the second consideration in the AWN - they need a reason to listen and they want to listen to something that sounds as close to a real broadcast as possible. Anything less is, in my opinion, a waste of effort.

 * Now, I understand that I am no longer doing the show and that as a wiki this is a collaborative effort, but I did put a ton of effort into the show (not only the hours per day making the show but also the guides, the housekeeping and the promotion of the show across the internet) and it still does feel like my baby, so letting go is still hard so I hope you understand. And I'm not doubting your ability at all, so please don't misunderstand me for assuming you can't make it work, I just strongly believe that there are core values that the show should adhere to at all times and I'd be disappointed if the show went back to being more of a hobby rather than a real, honest-to-goodness broadcast.

 * However, again, as I noted on your talk page, I am very excited to see what you decide to do with the show and what exciting new directions you will take it in. Wikinews is a fantastic community and everyone here has always been wonderful to work with and I do miss my time involved with the project (which is why I'm rambling, I suppose). I'm sure your years of experience will benefit the show and make it a success. Turtlestack (talk) 05:12, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

 * I absolutely agree with everything you've said. Much like you noted in the past, the reason things were done with AWNB before you got here is because that was the way thing were always done. I didn't attempt to change any of that at all while I was here because all I was doing was following what others did, even if it was just me doing it. Your revamps to the project, including the improved scripts and the workflow layout, are solid and should be the template that is used going forward... at least until somebody else presents something that proves better. Your efforts will not be discarded. -- kamnet (talk) 11:47, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Project page updates
Is this project page updated automatically when a recording is added? Should users manually change the table? Tdannecy (talk) 15:22, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, Tdannecy. I'd guess anything automatic probably got left behind with the old toolserver.  (I'm not an expert on the audio side of things, myself.)  --Pi zero (talk) 15:59, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Bitto Tiantawin (talk) 16:01, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

wikinews audio
If it does, I'd be very interesting in doing all sorts of audio, anything needed from news briefs to article readings. LogKenofficial-wiki (talk) 12:17, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

 * audio, not article LogKenofficial-wiki (talk) 12:17, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes and no. It has not been active much lately, certainly only a handful of recordings since 2010, and none since sometime in 2019. There is however nothing stopping you from getting involved. Have a look at the last few articles and recordings to get an idea of what they did. If not Audio Wikinews, there is also Wikinews:Print edition. [24Cr][talk] 12:58, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Will do, the article I saw with the introduction said it was out of date and there for "historical" purposes, I didn't know if I was supposed to go by that or not. LogKenofficial-wiki (talk) 14:00, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The historical tag is just so we can keep track of inactive stuff. If I can recommend it, I’d suggest recording a recently published article. Just be aware of the licensing. Wikinews uses the cc-by-2.5 license, which is what should be included at n the description page of the good you upload. Note this is different to the cc-by-sa-3.0 license in use on other wikis. If you need any help, drop me a message but I might not reply quickly. If I don’t reply within a day, feel free to ask an active administrator - there is a list here. Ignore the abuse filter, it’s not a person. Enjoy. [24Cr][talk] 14:28, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * yes i do need assistance with one thing, ive recorded the file and uploaded it to Wikimedia commons, my issue now is getting it in the wikinews audio page
 * file: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Wikinews.ogg LogKenofficial-wiki (talk) 17:30, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * You need the file description page. In this case it was File:Wikinews.ogg but I have renamed it to match the written article. It has been added using the Audio template. Don’t worry about this, you’ve done a great job! [24Cr][talk] 18:17, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you for that but i still don't see it on wikinews, this is my first time doing the audio wikinews so i apologize for all of my questions, but yeah i still don't see it in the wikinews audio section LogKenofficial-wiki (talk) 19:08, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * No worries. It should be visible on the page now. [24Cr][talk] 20:00, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes i do see it now, thank you so much for your help, have a good one. LogKenofficial-wiki (talk) 20:02, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for contributing. Have a great day. [24Cr][talk] 20:18, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

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Potential Goldsmith leak worries Labour, excites opposition

April 26, 2005

The UK Labour party are preparing for the worst as expectations of a new leak in the wake of the Iraq war continue to rise. The possibility that 13 pages of legal advice by the attorney general Lord Goldsmith will be made public has caused a stir as tensions in the race for the upcoming general election continue to build.

Controversy
The memo, allegedly prepared for the prime minister by Lord Goldsmith on the 7th of March 2003 and containing reservations about the legality of entering into war without a second UN resolution, is considered by opposition leaders and anti-war groups to lend proof to allegations that Mr Blair misled the cabinet, the department of defence and the British public before the 2003 invasion. The Daily Mail claimed that six different reservations were laid out by the attorney general in his legal advice. Controversy surrounds the memo due to the Government's repeated claims that Lord Goldsmith's opinion on the war's legality was unequivocal. Many believe that should it emerge that there were indeed doubts, the failure of the prime minister to inform the public of them constitutes a violation of trust - with Liberal Democrats claiming that the election must become a referendum on Iraq and the trustworthiness of Mr Blair. The controversy hinges on whether the Government honestly reflected the opinion of the attorney general in its press releases before, during and since the war. It is asserted that Mr Blair has claimed the private memo was of the same opinion as the published answer of March 17 2003, implying that Goldsmith was unequivocal about the legality of the war throughout his deliberation. However, a spokesman for the attorney general has dismissed any claims that the March 17 answer was ever purported to be a summary of Lord Goldsmith's advice. This stance has been echoed by the head of the civil service, Sir Andrew Turnbull, in his words to the public administration select committee.

Defence
Should the document emerge, it is likely that the government will maintain that the memo was never supposed to be construed as the attorney general's final opinion on the war's legality, and that his advice was subsequently modified after written assurances from the prime minister about Saddam Hussein's threat to the authority of the UN.


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I'm holding off to avoid edit conflicts... but will see what I can do. - Amgine/talk 03:04, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I've pinged technorati, and we'll see how it develops over the next few hours. I think it's a great article! - Amgine/talk 03:58, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:67.102.253.98

This looks like a great event! But Wikinews does not accept press releases. If you can rewrite this as a news article, we'd be very happy to use it. I know you're editing it now, so I hope that's what you are doing.

Thanks again for editing on Wikinews! - Amgine/talk 03:34, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Indiana Pacers beat Boston Celtics by 3 in game 2 of US basketball playoffs

The Indiana Pacers defeated the Boston Celtics 82-79 in the second game of the first round of the NBA playoffs. The Celtics trailed for most of the game. They briefly led 42-40 for 17 seconds just before the end of the second half, but in the last minute of the half, Reggie Miller scored 4 and James Jones hit a three pointer that went through the net just after the halftime buzzer sounded to send the Pacers to the locker room with a 5 point lead.

The Celtics slowly worked their way ahead of the Pacers during the third quarter; at the end of the third, the Celtics lead by 5. In the fourth quarter, the Pacers outscored the Celtics 18 to 10 to win by 3. Paul Pierce fired a 3 point shot to tie the game with 2 seconds left, but it bounced off the rim and was rebounded by the Pacers.

Former Celtic player Larry Bird, now the president of basketball operations for the Indiana Pacers, attended the game. Sitting 4 or 5 rows behind the Pacers' bench, Mr. Bird was guarded by a Fleet Center security guard.

At one moment in the second half, Patriots' owner Robert Kraft was shown on the Jumbotron. The crowd of 18,000 applauded for Kraft, presumably because of the Patriots' recent Super Bowl victories.


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Talk:Potential Goldsmith leak worries Labour, excites opposition

Been leaked
The document is out and about and is lead across all the British media... I'd do an article but I have to go to work! Dan100 (Talk) 06:14, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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US military investigation clears soldiers in shooting of Nicola Calipari

April 26, 2005

An ongoing US military investigation into the death of the Italian intelligence agent Nicola Calipari cleared the US soldiers charged. A US official speaking anonymously stated, "The soldiers were all complying with the standard operating procedures for those checkpoints and therefore were not culpable of dereliction of duty in following their procedures," according to the Australian Special Broadcasting Service.

The Italian government has rejected the investigation's findings. Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi later apologised for "an unfortunate leak" that suggested the investigation was completed, and assured paliament that the investigation was not yet over.

Giuliana Sgrena, the journalist of Italian newspaper il Manifesto who was injured in the shooting, replied, "Unbelievable. They say soldiers followed only their rules of engagement. But if shooting on a machine that is moving, while USA were informed about it, is following rules of engagement, we must ask ourself what kind of rules they are." For Sgrena now "it's important that Italian Magistracy goes on. But all may suppose that its job will not be so easy".

The report was delayed so that disputes might be solved between the two governments. These disputes included disagreements on how fast the car was going as it approached the checkpoint and if US soldiers knew that the car and passengers would be passing through on that day. Italian officials who participated in the investigation are said to have disagreed with its findings.

US soldiers insisted that the car carrying Sgrena and Calipari to the Baghdad airport was traveling at a high speed and failed to heed warnings to stop. The Italian driver of the car denies he was speeding or that soldiers gave a warning. "It's enough to see the car," Sgrena wrote in il Manifesto. "The front windshield is intact, while the side windows and the one behind are shattered."


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Italian machine translation (by babelfish)
Un'indagine militare continua degli Stati Uniti sulla morte dell'agente italiano Nicola Calipari di intelligenza ha eliminato i soldati degli Stati Uniti caricati. Un funzionario degli Stati Uniti che parla anonimo dichiarato "i soldati era tutto che si conforma ai modi di utilizzazione standard per quei punti di controllo e quindi non era culpable di dereliction del dovere dopo nelle loro procedure". Il governo italiano ha rifiutato i risultati delle corti. Il rapporto è stato fatto ritardare in modo che le dispute potessero essere risolte fra i due governi. Queste dispute hanno incluso i disaccordi su quanto velocemente l'automobile stava andando mentre si è avvicinato al punto di controllo e se fosse stato comunicato mai ai soldati degli Stati Uniti che l'automobile ed i passeggeri stavano attraversando quel giorno.

Dori's translation
La militare indagine dagli Stati Uniti sulla morte dell'agente d'intelligenza italiano Nicola Calipari ha concluso che i soldati degli Stati Uniti non sono colpevolli. Un funzionario degli Stati Uniti che parla anonimo ha dechiarato che "i soldati hanno rispettato alla lettera le procedure standard assegnate ai militari di guardia a un checkpoint, dunque non sono colpevoli." Il governo italiano ha rifiutato i risultati della corte. Il rapporto si Ã¨ tenuto

coperto in modo che si potessero risolte le differenze fra i due governi. I disputi erano la velocita che l'automobile stava andando quando si Ã¨ avvicinata al punto di controllo e se si c'e stato della comunicazione fra i soldati degli Stati Uniti e i passeggeri del'automobile.

potessero risolvere

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I made it. Better: I corrected it on the italian Wikinews. Thanks for contribution... ^__^ --Gatto Nero 08:48, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Gosh! Four time repeated! Record? --Gatto Nero 08:55, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Dispute
Please change the title to indicate the court was a US controlled court; e.g. "US court clears US soldiers".The way it is now it gives the impression the shooters are innocent.Paulrevere2005 11:02, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Paul, for all accounts and purposes, the shooters have been declared innocent. Lyellin 11:31, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

By whom? I believe there is still an ongoing Italian investigation. All I'm saying is the title should indicate it was a US controlled review/court that cleared them.Maybe "Pentagon clears US Soldiers in shooting of Nicola Calipari" or "US military investigation clears soldiers in shooting of Nicola Calipari"

If you feel comfortable with that, just change the title and remove the dispute tag.I have to go out for awhile. Overall, a very good article imo. Paulrevere2005 13:00, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Is there an ongoing Italian investigation? If so, that should be added to the article. The only reason I'd say it's not nessecary is that the first line does specify it is a US court. *shrugs* I also think it's a bit heavy to put the dispute tag on it, but that's alright. I really have no problem moving it. Any other editor opinions? Lyellin 14:32, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm with PaulRevere2005 on this one. In general, a government clearing their own soldiers of wrongdoing carries less weight than, say, the and international court or the government of a hostile nation clearing the same soldiers of wrongdoing. I think "US military investigation clears soldiers in shooting of Nicola Calipari," as suggested by PaulRevere2005 is pretty good. Pingswept 16:05, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Page moved. :) Hopefully that helps with the one tag, but I'll let paul remove it. Lyellin

 * Thanks Lyellin; I was going to remove my tag but see Dan100 has already removed it. Paulrevere2005 19:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * This story is a coverup of a coverup and needs to be completely rewritten. There was no court--as others have said--but that is only the tip of the iceberg. Leave the flag on until this gets rewritten. I may try to do it later today if no one else does. Forgot to sign... --HiFlyer 16:15, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Can you be more specific Alan? I see nothing misleading in the article, nor does it contravene NPOV. Dan100 (Talk) 17:37, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Removing tags
I'm removing the tags for the following reasons:

 * The article is not non-NPOV - both sides are fairly represented.
 * The article is not misleading - it is simple fact that the US have cleared their own soldiers. That's what the article is about.

Publishing now. Dan100 (Talk) 17:44, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Someone may, however, want to write an article about the Italian reaction to the news. Dan100 (Talk) 17:46, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Dan, I'm sorry I had to leave right after tagging it and I knew it would be taken care of. Everyone knows what was wrong with that story, and even though it is no longer in the throes of NPOV, it is a world headline and we have devoted a few very "newbie" graphs to it, which changed my center of gravity for a few minutes.

 * I will add some sources etc to it and move along. Thanks... --HiFlyer 21:19, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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Rescuers search for survivors of Japan rail disaster

April 26, 2005

Rescuers working with cranes and heavy equipment at the scene of Japan's worst rail accident in forty years pulled 3 survivors and more bodies out of the wreckage of a packed commuter train that derailed on Monday. The crash is now claiming 95 lives and over 400 injuries. Hopes are fading for more survivors in the rail car search where it is thought a dozen bodies may yet remain.

The train crashed into the side of a nine-story apartment building located nearby a bend where it jumped the track. Relatives of those lost are arriving in Amagasaki to identify loved ones in a gymnasium where a makeshift morgue is located.

Police searching for the cause of yesterday’s disaster investigated eight offices of West Japan Railway Co on Tuesday for clues to the rail driver. Police conducting the probe said professional negligence may be involved. The train operator, who in the past received a warning for a similar incident, over-shot the stop at the previous station and had to back the train up nearly 40 m (130 feet).

It is unclear whether the inexperienced driver of the train survived, 23-year-old Ryujiro Takami with 11 months on the job.

Running late and traveling at what survivors thought was excessive speed, it is believed the train lost control at a bend in the track where 71 km/h (44 mph) was the speed limit; however, any speeds under 134 km/h (83 mph) should not have caused derailment.

The train and aircraft disaster research committee, which reports to the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport, began to research the disaster. The committee members revealed unofficially the physical reasons of the disaster are quite complexe A member of the committee says the speed of train was monitored and at the fifth train it was recoreded that this car had run at 108 km/h speed in a certain moment after emergency brake had worked.


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Thousands of Romanians rally for release of kidnapped journalists

April 26, 2005

Thousands of Romanians participated in rallies on Monday to campaign for the release of three Romanian journalists kidnapped last month in Iraq. Crowds swelled in size after a weekend of smaller rallies sponsored by Romanian media workers and the Arab community in Romania.

Rallies were held all over the country, with the largest in Bucharest, capital of Romania, and eight other cities. Rallying continues today with intensity in view of the deadline set by the journalists' captors demanding a Romanian pull out of its troops in Iraq. If the government does not pull out the troops, the captors threaten to kill the three — Marie-Jeanne Ion (32), Sorin Dumitru Miscoci (30) and Ovidiu Ohanesian (37).

The mother of Marie-Jeanne Ion, Magdalena Ion, made a public speech where she expressed hope that her daughter, and her daughter's colleagues, will be saved. She said, "The authorities have tried to reassure us but we are very anxious because the deadline is so short. But I'm sure it will be all right in the end."

Romania's Prime Minister Călin Popescu-Tăriceanu, said his government is making all efforts for the journalists' release, and they would not yield to terrorist demands, since this would enforce the fact that terrorism works.

Counter groups are calling for Romania to withdraw its troops. The right-wing Popular Great Romania Party (PPCD) and the social-liberal Romanian Humanist Party (PUR) have both pressured the government to withdraw.

The Social Democratic Party (PSD), the largest party in opposition, said that troops should be withdrawn, but not under terrorist pressure. The PSD has mostly kept quiet during the kidnapping crisis because it was in power during 2000-2004 and was, therefore, the party who sent the troops to Iraq in the first place. However, party president Mircea Geoană, told a news conference that, "We must find a correct balance to establish a calendar without giving the impression that we have yielded to political blackmail."

A pullout of Romania's troops is supported by over 70% of the population, according to a poll taken at the weekend. However, the governing Truth and Justice alliance is keen to let troops remain in Iraq for peacekeeping efforts, until the country's situation stabilises.

A withdrawal by Romania would deal a blow to the US-led Coalition of the Willing. Romania's is one of the largest contingents of any European country in Iraq due to the recent withdrawals or downscaling of Spain, Italy, the Ukraine and Poland. Romania has so far been one of the only NATO countries not announcing a withdrawal. President Traian Băsescu was planning in March to send more troops.


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President Bush and Saudi Arabia's Prince Abdullah meet in Crawford ranch

April 26, 2005

US President George Bush met with Saudi Prince Abdullah at Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas USA Monday. He greeted the prince with a kiss on both cheeks. They previously met 3 years ago at the Crawford ranch where President Bush later said of the meeting, he developed a "strong personal bond" with the Saudi Crown Prince.

A barrel of oil cost $25 three years ago. Today it costs $54. The meeting was to discuss oil, the war on terror and efforts to extend democracy and peace in the Middle East. "This is an important relationship," Bush said. "A high oil price will damage markets. And he knows that.  I look forward to talking to him about that, as well, you now, we'll talk about his country's capacity. It's an important subject."

The Foreign Affairs adviser to the Crown Prince, Adel al-Jubeir, said that Saudi Arabia has the capacity to produce more oil. According to him: "We believe that the price of crude oil does not reflect the full dimensions of supply and demand. There is no shortage of crude oil in the world today.  What we see is a shortage of refining capacity as well as shortages in infrastructures and so forth, that drive the price of product up."

The US president and Saudi prince talked about the Israeli-Palestinian crisis. "There is a shared vision," Bush said. "I made it clear to him that I expected Israel to withdraw, just like I've made it clear to Israel. And we expect them to be finished." The US president said Israel must look for a non-violent solution in Ramallah and Bethlehem.

According to Fox News, a senior administration official briefing reporters said the US president is concerned about the instigation of terror actions against Israel. Recently, the Saudi Arabia's ambassador to Britain published a poem saying Palestinian suicide bombers were martyrs.


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India appoints new envoy to Bhutan

April 26, 2005

The Indian government has appointed Sudhir Vyas as its new envoy to Bhutan. Vyas is currently India's ambassador to the United Arab Emirates, and will replace K S Jasrotia as the new envoy.

Chandra Mohan Bhandari, currently Additional Secretary in the External Affairs Ministry, will replace Vyas as ambassador to the UAE.

Vyas is expected to start his new posting shortly.

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Talk:BBC admits sending hecklers into Conservative campaign meeting

Pro-Conservative Bias
The article seems a little heavy on the pro-Conservative bias, giving little space to the other side of the conversation. Some of the remarks from this Guardian article where the producer of the show defends the incident should be included for balance. --Axon 13:21, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * According to Mr. Black's letter of protest to the broadcaster, Sally Freestone, the UK Special Events assignments editor, was said to be "aghast" at the BBC's behaviour.

Who is Sally Freestone, which organisation is she UK Special Events assignments editor for, and why should we care that she is "aghast"? --Axon

Conservative bias
I have to agree with Axon, this article seems to be heavily slanted towards the tory party. I was listening to the BBC yesterday (25th April) and a representative of the programme gave a very reasoned and reasonable defence of the programme. The theory of the programme was that it was a study of public reaction to election campaigns, including the way that parties now handle public meetings and the heckling that traditionally take place at them. He made the point that the heckling organised by the BBC took place at meetings of the Tory party, New Labour and Liberal democrat parties. It would be unthinkable in the current environment for the BBC not to have been balanced in this way. I got the impression from the broadcast that Michael Howard was probably the only party leader to be hecled, whether this was by design or chance, who knows. The BBC representative made interesting comments about the current planning of "public" meetings by all the major parties, in that wherever possible they are populated by selected party supporters, whose activities in response to reporters and hecklers appears to be well co-ordinated. It seems to me that the response of the Tory party to this programme is going to do little or nothing for the public perception of them. There does not seem to be a suggestion that these "hecklers" were specially trained in any way, just asked to heckle, so one has to assume that Mr Howard is not as competent as one might hope at handling hecklers.

 * It would be interesting to optain a link to that interview. I know the BBC creates streams for a lot of it's radio programmes so it would be great if you could dig it out. --Axon 17:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Can Wikinews do this too?
Sending hecklers into a political meeting is OK, as long as you send them in for all the major parties?

Please read those words again - "the heckling organised by the BBC".

Can Wikinews do this too? This kind of behavior is "very reasoned and reasonable"?

How about if I get some friends and send them into some local campaign meetings so I can file a story with "original reporting"?

This is not a Conservative vs Labour story.

This is a story about mainstream media deciding it was a slow news day, or that they didn't like the news, so they went out and made some of their own news.

I would be really surprised if any regular contributors to Wikinews would endorse this kind of nonsense, but if this is ethical behavior on the part of the BBC, please let me know, so I can win the upcoming Original Reporting contest using these same techniques! — DV 06:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi David. I think it's irrelevant as to whether this was right or wrong. Obviously, there is another side to this incident and we should present both sides in a balanced and neutral fashion rather than trying to make some point about journalism and accepting as gospel what is being written by Tory spin doctors. Perhaps you got caught up in the fervor of moment, but the original article as you write it was very POV and unbalanced in favor of the Conservative and against the BBC.

 * Also, as the original author of this piece could you elaborate on some of the points raised in the comments above? In particular, could you elaborate on the enigmatic and context-less quote from Sally Freestone. Ta :) --Axon 10:08, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Putin’s state-of-the-nation speech addresses the economy

"First and foremost it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century" - ha-ha, what a load of bollocks. Whiny commie bitch. Grue 13:52, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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Argentinian workers preparing to defend control of factory

April 26, 2005

Factory workers at a ceramic factory in Neuquén, Argentina are preparing to defend their autonomous running of their workplace, as the courts start to look at appointing an owner. The workers have been running the factory themselves since the Argentinian government meltdown in 2001, and say they are more effective working independently.

There are now 410 workers at FaSinPat ('Fabrica sin Patrones' or 'Factory without Bosses'), having hired over 170 new workers in four years of autonomous control. The factory is widely known as Zanon, the name under the previous owner, Luis Zanon, who accumulated some US$170 million in debt, and shut down the factory, firing the workers.

Argentinian government and businesses were in chaos at the time, with the government dissolving repeatedly and defaulting on $88 billion of debt, inflation skyrocketing and people demanding money from banks who had closed their doors.

Like over 200 Argentinian workplaces facing similar conditions, the workers chose spontaneously to run the factory themselves, and continued maintenance and production, to keep trading on their own behalf.

Now thirty workers have travelled the 1,200 kilometers to Buenos Aires, presenting a petition containing thousands of signatures from all over the world at the central courthouse, and mobilising outside.

"With these actions we are marking a playing ground for the judge," said Raul Godoy, Zanon worker and General Secretary of the Ceramists' Union.

Reports of violence against a Zanon worker
As the government has continued its legal assault upon the Zanon factory, at least one factory employee has been reported to have suffered repeated threats and violence at the hand of unknown attackers.

Esteban Magnani, author of El Cambio Silencioso (The Silent Change), a book about worker cooperatives in Argentina told UpsideDownWorld.org, "In Neuquen you have Jorge Sobisch, a right wing governor who wants to be the new [President] Carlos Menem ... wants to show how tough he is ... Zanon is very politicized and famous, which is bad for a governor who wants to be seen as a right wing savior. Sobisch feels the need to crack down now, because the longer he waits, the more powerful Zanon becomes." Some of the workers feel that Sobisch may be approving the attacks or may be culpable in failing to defend the workers.

Magnani indicates incumbent President Néstor Kirchner, described by Wikipedia as "a Peronist with leftist leanings", might defend Zanon. "One of Kirchner’s flags is human rights. Now with this kidnapping and the continued threats, Kirchner shouldn’t have any excuse to not do something about this."

"Subway workers, train workers, airline workers, other recuperated businesses and many other sectors have made it clear that the employees at Zanon will not be alone." Says one Zanon worker, "We are willing to defend the factory with our lives."

It may not come to that. Governnor Sobisch has been attempting to evict the workers of Zanon in an ongoing, highly politicized legal battle for several years. Sobisch has been ordered by the Federal Supreme Court of Argentina to evict the workers as soon as possible.

Other sources consulted about the past record of behavior by Sobisch do not reflect a record of overt violence against the workers. At least one source from October 2004 said that Sobish wants the workers to leave the Zanon factory and work instead in a government-sponsored micro-enterprise project for unemployed workers, constructing prefabricated houses.


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This story was featured on The World Forum. Congrats all! 130.49.145.33 15:51, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:President Bush and Saudi Arabia's Prince Abdullah meet in Crawford ranch

This Bush character is a roar... ! HiFlyer always draws that out, but leads to POV? -Edbrown05 16:46, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * oops, I see now this was PaulRevere2005. I liked it! But think the pic is done wrong. The photo is striking where they clasp hands. The oil chart belongs in the oil interest section. -Edbrown05 18:31, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

is 1990 really 'just before' George W.'s election....? --Morbid-o 20:39, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * No, not in the slightest. It was, in fact, during his father's presidency. - Amgine/talk 20:47, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * This is a definate inaccuracy, and needs to be corrected. Lyellin 21:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Pic?
What's with the tangent graph? Is one or are both holding it up in that pic, or what? Thanx 68.39.174.150 20:19, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * The picture was created by a user who has a well-expressed bias against the US President. That is his personal graph of oil prices with unknown methodology or purpose. - Amgine/talk 20:47, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Extremely presumptuos to attempt to describe someone's biases to a 3rd. party. especially when its not even true.I have a bias against wars and war profiteering and fascist cults.I actually think Bush Jr. is one of the better cult members and I'm not even sure he's in the inner loop. His dad and Kerry are the ones(in the US) to worry about.Paulrevere2005 11:50, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * The purpose of the meeting was largely to discuss the price of oil. showing the price of oil chart is simply background for the story.Why not ask the purpose if you couldn't figure it out??? Paulrevere2005 22:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm going to remove the picture - especially since it has been up on the main page a bit - this is too biased to be used. Lyellin 21:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * how biased? or is bias just a term to throw around falsely. Paulrevere2005 22:09, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * The addition of the charts, which do not actually belong with the picture, imply some connection between bush/Saudis and rising oil costs. A plain picture of that handshake scene, without the charts, would be fine. Lyellin 22:10, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You could have just as easily deducted the oil chart was there because that's the #1 issue on the table before these 2 leaders; and the hand holding has already become a story in itself in the US and a similar photo(of the pals holding hands) was on the front page of yesterday's NY Post..so that's not biased either.
 * ok, I do agree that there is the connection you deducted from the photo; but that doesn't mean the photo is biased..just that it contains information which caused you to think about the coincidence/possibility (2 leaders who are oilmen might have done things which led to higher oilprices which is good for oilmen).

The photo isn't biased. The meeting was described by the white house as a meeting primarily about the price of oil...the photo is perfect. You could have just as easily deducted the oil chart was there because that's the #1 issue on the table before these 2 leaders. I'd like to put the photo back as is. any objections or support? Paulrevere2005 11:50, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * The photo is biased. No matter what connection it is forcing me to draw, it is A- a constructed photo, and not one of the actual event. B - using a chart that I can't confirm the data for. C- giving an opinon regarding the matter (oil prices are rising because of a connection between Bush/Saudis). Even though I hate bush with a passion, this is not a neutral photo. Lyellin 17:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Formating
This article is not adaquately formated - the sources are not correctly orgainised. I am moving it back to in development to protect our somewhat professional looking image. → CGorman (Talk)  21:11, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

How is it nor adequately formated? or is this just another arbitrary move. Paulrevere2005 22:13, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * It doesn't use the 'source' template - an un-formatted list of URLs at the end just doesn't look good. But I have to be honest here - I don't think that's a good enough reason to de-list an article from Latest news. Dan100 (Talk) 23:32, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * thank goodness(sincerely). Paulrevere2005 12:00, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Bush Sr. & Jr. oil interests
The section on the Bush family oil interests is very educational, however I wouldn't be surprised if UncleG or some other contributor waltzes in and removes it again, claiming that historical information belongs in a Wikipedia article instead of in a Wikinews story.

It's like the old Wendy's line, "Where's the beef?" although in this case the question will be "Where's the news?"

Kudos to Dan100 for trying to keep this interesting tidbit in the story. — DV 08:04, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I don't understand why so many people want to remove it. I view it as useful, true (unless someone corrects me on that) background information that sets the context for the rest of the article. There are no 'npov' issues - I can't see what the 'opposite' 'point of view' to the Bushes being involved in the oil industry - but even if there were, the proper course of action is add the opposite point of view, rather than just delete the bit you don't like. Dan100 (Talk) 23:12, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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Bomb explosion kills two in Myanmar's second largest city

April 27, 2005

Hospital officials reported Tuesday that two women were killed by a bomb blast at a market in, the second largest city in Myanmar. The city is located about 430 miles north of the capital.

Police officials confirmed a bomb explosion at the Zay Cho market, yet the military-government of Myanmar did not provide any details about the incident. A doctor said one of the women died at the market and the other died in the hospital.

16 other people were wounded and taken to the hospital. Reports indicate there was a single explosion at the ground of the busy market at 16:15 local time. In the past several small bomb explosions have been reported without any victims.