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User talk:Borofkin/archive1

Saftey
No i wasnt aware i had spelt that wrong. Thanks for pointing it out. The bellman 07:20, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Admin Voting
Thankyou verry much Borofkin for your vote of confidence for me becoming an admin.--Ryan524 16:36, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Would you like me to delete Friend of asylum seeker accuses DIMIA of harassment? If I get your permission, as you are the original author, I can delete immediately. NGerda 22:00, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * IIRC since other users have edited it you need to let it go through DR. --Cspurrier 22:02, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification, I was slightly confused by the statement on . NGerda 22:05, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

Rwanda
Hi there, thanks for nominating Rwanda for the Country of the Week! Hopefully we're on for next week :) ClareWhite 12:30, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * We are! And I've set up a 'news hut' to gently guide my friends into it. It's here and I need all the help I can get :) ClareWhite 15:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

btw: Was that you who just updated the second lead? if so, you're not logged in. - Amgine/talk 05:08, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * That was me, Amgine. And Borofkin, I think it's awesome that you are focusing on events in Rwanda!  We really need this kind of coverage; I'm just sick of hearing about Michael Jackson and the bodies of little girls in Florida being found.  Keep up the good work!  NGerda 05:13, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Get used to the news cycle, NGerda. And apologies, Borofkin... I should have known better, which is why I was wondering. - Amgine/talk 05:15, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Which news cycle, Amgine? NGerda 05:16, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

 * Have y'all been following this: Rwanda newshut? In my opinion, the purpose of all of the "recycling" of news, for which we are regularly criticised, is to create a news site and a news community that can support local projects like this. I'm trying to give them a little support. - Borofkin 05:22, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Just saw that when I came on, Borofkin. Excellent idea, and a very useful project. This is a form of "portaling" which I would love to encourage at any level of locality: a country, a province, a county... even a single high-school, if they would like to produce an online news site about their school. I haven't read exactly what the newshut is up to, but if it is raising the profile of Rwanda, making the country's news available for others, I'm in favour of it. - Amgine/talk 05:26, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'm so impressed! Thanks so much for all your hard work overnight! I think this will really inspire my media group, who are so far getting to grips with the technology. I wondered if it's worth putting a link to Country of the Week in the info box? It will raise the profile of that project and let people know why there are all the stories about Rwanda. Woo! ClareWhite 08:17, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Borofkin, I wondered if you might be able to help next week when I'm in Rwanda? I don't know for sure what sort of web access I'm going to have and would like to be able to email someone who could put material up if I can't get to wikinews. Could you be the one? ClareWhite 16:03, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I'm hoping it won't be necessary, but from what I'm hearing from the students it may be hard to access Wikinews so I wanted a backup. I will be sure to include full notes with everything and feel free to put the whole email onto a Talk page. ClareWhite 08:23, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Move protection
Hi, sorry I wasn't around sooner! Would you like me to protect your user pages against moves? I highly recommend it. Have a good night :-) Dan100 (Talk) 08:35, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Vandal
Thank you for fighting that vandal last night! NGerda 15:15, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

Rwanda 2
Hey, nice work today :-) Dan100 (Talk) 08:47, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Thankyou, thankyou. Clare is in Kigali now, so I'm expecting the hordes to jump in with original reporting any minute. :-) - Borofkin 08:48, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

thank you
thanks. Bawolff 23:51, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

srebrenica date
Yes... it's July 11, of course! My stupid little mistake. I am correcting it right now. --Dcabrilo 05:58, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Are you an admin? If you are, can you delete the wrong version?--Dcabrilo 06:00, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Still there?
good to see you back, don't lurk for too long. i'm well thanks, been an exciting week in london (not stoke, obviously) and things seem to be hotting up here which is good to see. ClareWhite x

work experience
Oh good, there was I thinking I'd done wrong.. maybe there should be page: what do to if you've been forced here by your work experience master :) ClareWhite 13:15, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

SCOTUS articles
The articles have been merged. ;)Lyellin 23:56, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Talk page response
Yeah, I'm an aussie expat in exile. I keep reading wikinews on trial runs. I like the idea, but always feel it's more fight than it's worth. That's why I never register... I only have patience in little spurts, you see. 69.23.220.138 06:10, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * If little spurts is all you got, that is welcomed greatly! It would be nice to get to know you, though.  :)  -- NGerda 06:53, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Bush Snr hoax
Ghost has spotted that the Bush Snr to go the Forbes conference story was actually a hoax - The Australian. Ghost may write a story on this, but if he doesn't get the chance, could you cover it? Dan100 (Talk) 11:19, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

New Main Page design proposal
I invite you and others to see Main Page Talk, where I have proposed a new Main Page for Wikinews. Best wishes, NGerda 01:48, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Privatization
I thought that if "Privatisation" was an english spelling, then the OED dictionary or other UK dictionary would have that listed. I assumed that since dictionary.com showed no listings in *any* dictionary, that it was not a OE/AE (Original English / American English) spelling issue. -- 00:47, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

If you have a minute...
That's a very interesting article. I have a Katrina-related subject for an article, a group of people creating news feeds via the internet related to Katrina, that I'd like to suggest for you. If you could hop into the irc channel for a minute I could explain. - Amgine/talk 06:25, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

About Thyphoon Nabi Hits Japan...
Hello and thank you for that tip!I heard it from 938 LIVE but how can I put it on the page?

Re: Aussie?
Thanks for your compliment.

I am not an Aussie. I just saw the article and realised it's far reaching consequences, so I published it on wikinews.

train story
Great story, I loved it! But how sad that the headline has been changed from 'laughed' - can't we live a little? ClareWhite 14:59, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

spelling
G'day cobber, glad to have been of help with spelling corrections. :) Boud 21:08, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

US military to buy anthrax and bioweapons production systems
I probably should have looked more closely; I did not see any discussion entry by the anonymous IP on the talk page, or previously in the article, so I restored the NPOV as it appeared to have been removed without addressing the NPOV issues. The article is still biased, imo, but I haven't the time to devote to the article. Thanks for doing that! - Amgine/talk 20:39, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Is Australia in this much trouble?
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Australian_Minister_%27leaks%27_draft_of_anti-terror_bill "The inclusion and definition of sedition, which in the bill may include "to bring the sovereign [i.e. the Queen] into hatred or contempt", or to "urge disaffection" with the Australian Government. Australian law does not protect freedom of speech, so this proposed law may effectively outlaw criticizing the Australian Government . It may also effectively outlaw some protests." I am really concerned. Neutralizer 19:54, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Adminship?
I was wondering if you would be opposed if I nominated you for adminship? - Amgine / talk 02:39, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Excellent! You have been nominated! You will need to accept the nomination, of course. And thanks! - Amgine / talk 03:28, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Adminship
Congratulations, you are now an admin. --Cspurrier 15:40, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

heads up
Thought you may wish to join in this discussion re; attempted deletion of an info-box you worked on. Neutralizer 13:16, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Bomb scare at Circular Quay
Thanks for that.

We'll see what happens.

I strengthed the article slightly, before I realised I was the only source. :-)

Sorry about that. As you said, can be deleted if it is a misunderstanding somewhere. My colleague was quite clear.

Regards, BenAveling 06:34, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Ah, but when you said you'd started the article, I thought, "wow, another source!" Minor whoops there. :-)

Thanks again, BenAveling 06:51, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm heading home. I might log in again later tonight. Meanwhile, I'll leave the story in your loving care. :-)

Later, BenAveling 07:29, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Tea
You're right. Just a moment and I'll fix it. And my apologies for breaking the spirit... - Amgine 00:31, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
 * although on the page you mention adding if you feel annoyed... - Amgine 00:40, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

jasabella would like to speak with you...
jasabella is a user from Sydney, and would like to talk to a real-live-australian-contributor. The nick is in irc at the moment. - Amgine 04:52, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Did you actually want to meet up for the IR Legislation change Protest? Or did you want to just do our own things? -- Jasabella 05:12, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

 * (note: in IRC again if you wanted to chat in real time - Amgine 05:14, 14 November 2005 (UTC))

Cheers
for yr assistance in the IR story, particularly re photos. --elliot_k 07:56, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

"De-editing"
"De-editing is removing a users edit privileges. It means that they may view pages but not edit. I have deleted the article "De-editing" that you created, as it was in the article namespace, but wasn't news."

How is it done? Who can do it? When it is done, what record exists of it having been done? --JWSchmidt 04:01, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Van Nguyen
Thanks for your help with the Nguyen article, much appreciated. I just wanted to check something with you. You added the line "It was reported that Nguyens mother would not be permitted physical contact with her son." Are you sure this is entirely accurate? Everything I read said they were not allowed to hug, but it was being reported prior to their final visit that they would be allowed to touch and hold hands. Sarah Ewart 01:28, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Welcoming wikinewsies
Howdy! Thanks so much for your work welcoming wikinewsies... Lately, I've been inserting rather than just. Doing this actually inserts the text of the template, rather than making a server request for the current template text each time a page is loaded. It creates a tiny bit less server load so I'm thinking it's a good thing. Of course, the other good thing is that the message doesn't change everytime someone changes Template:Welcome! Best wishes... --Chiacomo (talk) 04:45, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't have a barnstar or other award handy...
But I wanted to say how much I've appreciated your coverage - and level head - the past few days with the articles about Australia. You've been managing some heavy traffic and hot tempers there! Thanks! -  Amgine | talk 00:22, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

WN:TEA enforcement
As manipulative as it sounds, it's a good idea! —M ESSED R OCKER (talk) 14:01, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Anti-racism rally in Sydney
Thanks; I was there but I don't have anything really to add. There was another event earlier in the week starring Cate Blanchett. m.e 10:51, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Runaway foster child found living with pedophile
I've received complaint regarding this article, have unpublished it and tagged it as an NPOV violation. The title is egregious, but the article content is likewise not balanced. Are there additional sources regarding this story? -  Amgine | talk en.WN 20:02, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * The complaint was from an en.Wikinews reader who's an active wikimedian, Oldak. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 02:52, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi. I noticed that this article became one of the oldest article under "development" category. I wonder if you have any good idea what to do with it. Tomos 18:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

New Zealand
Thanks for your offer, to help me with the New Zealand portal, if its not to much trouble, could you please post a list of all the subpages you made, for the aussie portal. Thanks Brian New Zealand 02:56, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Just letting you know that I have done the New Zealand Portal for now, (it will be an ongoing update), I based the design, on the nice one you did for the Aussie portal, with a few changes. cheers Brian New Zealand 02:41, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

ArbCom?
Would you be interested in accepting a nomination for the Arbcom? -  Amgine | talk en.WN 04:48, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Thank you for considering! (It's exactly that kind of judgement I hope to see on the ArbCom ) btw: I nominated Elliot K for adminship... -  Amgine | talk en.WN 16:50, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikimedia Australia
I just want to thank you for putting your name down as a supporter of Wikimedia Australia. You are an asset to Wikinews and feel that you could be an even greater asset to a local chapter. Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 10:38, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Australia/Workspace
I like the idea of having an aussie workspace, I might work on one for the kiwi portal Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 01:25, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Policy
It has long since been the practice that we delete any articles that are POV and provide little information. Such "stubbed" articles are covered in the deletion policy. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 02:32, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 4. Very short articles with no context (e.g., "He is a funny man that has created Factory and the Hacienda. And, by the way, his wife is great.")
 * WN:SD. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 02:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Re Kubby Article, what are you doing!
I'm new to Wikinews, but a long-time editor of Wikipedia, so apologies if the misunderstanding is mine. Your edit took my article off the main page, I need an explanation. Please desist until I understand what is going on. StrangerInParadise 03:36, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I had a look. There are no news sources cited. I'm sure there are some articles out there. Perhaps StrangerInParadise could dig a few up and link them? --Chiacomo (talk) 03:43, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

portal
I will see what I can do to attract attention, and talk with devs about it. I think it's a cool idea! -  Amgine | talk en.WN 03:14, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Not you too!
I just got done explaining to Neut why this article is shelved. Did it once, just once, occur to ask me whether this is a good idea? StrangerInParadise 02:23, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Original
Seeing as (I think) you were the first person to suggest that reporting based on transcripts is original reporting, perhaps you might want to investigate this edit. I don't really mind one way or the other, but I'd like to have a clear approach or something to this. Thanks Dysprosia 22:32, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

RE: "Serbian Security Service said to hunt Mladic"
my post to wikinews was put back to status "develop" with a note saying "Serbian Security Service said to hunt Mladic; 22:52 . . Borofkin (Talk) (Create sources section. Put in develop.)" although I have a "Sources" section. I am new to this. please clarify for me. jeffs 15:53, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the reminder
will do sinblox (talk) 02:54, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

great work on the aus portal
i must say your reporting is commited, kudo's--Whywhywhy 10:56, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

spag-bol
Yes, the pic did illicit "hunger" from this user! (if it wasn't laced with rat poison) Best regards. -Edbrown05 06:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Computer-Assisted Reporting
Hi Borofkin. CAR is a journalism technique which involves using the computer to do things like original research, finding primary sources, contacting experts, arranging interviews, requesting FOI material, accessing and processing raw data etc. It's usually taught in final year jrn courses because it gets rather in-depth with statistical analysis and data processing. I like your political project idea – it looks good. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 09:10, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Tracking down IP edits
Well, I'm afraid User:199.126.30.22 is from somewhere in Canada, so the Oz welcome might be inappropriate. I use http://visualroute.visualware.com which gives me a fairly inoffensive email once a month or so for the use of their service. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:00, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Dispute resolution
I have created a dispute resolution page for your current dispute. Please excuse me if this is contrary to your intentions. --Chiacomo (talk) 00:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm working on it now. Thanks Neutralizer 02:04, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Borofkin, I saw your edits and like your approach to this. The way I read this, it was planned as a collaborative approach to examine the editing behaviour from and in response to a particular user to achieve some clarity over acceptable use and avoid future conflict. It seems that now you have changed your mind and changed the format away from "type-of-behaviour based" to "people based", which I find counterproductive. What is your reasoning behind this? Did I misread your intentions? Or is there policy in place that forces the "people based" format? --vonbergm 02:24, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree with Vonbergm 100%; I liked your original approach. I got upset when I saw Chiacomo and then Amgine delete SIP's edit and then when you deleted your own diffs it just seemed like the whole thing was turning sour...I put everything back in but now it will look to some like it's just me stirring things up. Neutralizer 02:32, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, I agree totally; touchy,feely is good. Neutralizer 02:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Well, now I feel a bit better. =) OK, I agree with Neut and Vonbergm on the idea of a common brief, and would suggest reverting to my last, or whatever.  Let me know how you would like to proceed. StrangerInParadise 03:24, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Response to Borofkin; Sure, a "common brief" on a separate page for the diffs sounds good to me; I am not good with formatting but if someone sets up the separate page format, that would be great. Neutralizer 12:44, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Generally speaking, when one brings a request for dispute resolution I have two considerations: has the bringing party attempted the other steps outlined on the dispute resolution page; has the bringing party informed the other party of the dispute resolution request? -  Amgine | talk en.WN 22:57, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

comment every other time the MrM issue has been brought up, Amgine steps in to try to sabotage the process by bogging down attempts like this, by deleting Rfda requests and by deflecting the discussion toward other contributors with uncalled for comments like this he made yesterday to SiP on Cartman's talk page. I am not optimistic about this effort going very far because Amgine and 1 or 2 others have been extremely successful in the past at manipulating/stopping a process like this with bureaucratic sludge and deflections. Neutralizer 13:05, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm not sure it meaningful to talk about the other steps as applied individually to each person when several people are involved. I strongly suspect that 1, 2, and 3 have been done to varying degrees by various involved people, plus it appears this is only at 4, not 5.  Nyarlathotep 11:58, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Borofkin, I'll likely endorse whatever you guys eventually write, especially the parts about MrM being hostile to new users, but I don't currently have any new objections to add, nor have I had many encounters with MrM recently. Nyarlathotep 11:58, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Copyvio review
I did look at that. It appears from the Indymedia timestamp it was created there before the Wikinews article creation? (Wishes Indymedia would use something compatible with us) -  Amgine | talk en.WN 03:09, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I thought the Indymedia site was on Sidney time? -  Amgine | talk en.WN 03:14, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Just tested, the Melbourne Indymedia site is on +9 or more hours. It's clock is also inaccurate. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 03:20, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Uhm, if the article were posted at 1508 Indymedia time, which is approximately +9 hours, then it was posted at 0408 UTC. The Wikinews article was posted at 1500 UTC, or almost 11 hours later. Which, again, is a fairly astonishing coincidence. I don't know what to say for this case. - <span style="font: italic 10pt/12pt cursive;"> Amgine | talk

en.WN 04:35, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I guess I'm not going to contest it or anything, so long as Indymedia doesn't it should be no problem. - <span style="font: italic 10pt/12pt cursive;"> Amgine | talk en.WN 04:41, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

DR
Borofkin, That was an extreme unintentional screwup..I don't even know how it was possible? Could it have been an edit conflict? As you can see I was of the same view as most of the edits I apparently deleted so vandalism would make no sense....I really can not figure this one out can you? The only edit I recall making was adding my own agreement with Vonbergm; is it possible a vandal was somehow piggy backing my edit? I am really baffled at this. Neutralizer 13:49, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Could I have edited an out of date revision? Neutralizer 14:12, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

joint resolution
I believe that this is a good idea and I fully agree with the introductory statement you gave. So let's condense and focus on the essential parts! (Although my hopes of reaching some kind of agreement here are waning, especially one involving MrM's participation ...) --vonbergm 23:38, 9 March 2006 (UT
 * I think its best to wait for Mrm:s statement whatever he might say. If he dont respond its also a kind of statment. International 23:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * This is a great idea, the main dispute page is getting a little long - Cartman02au <SMALL>(Talk)(AU Portal)</SMALL> 20:54, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Australia day pages
I noticed you created several day pages for the Australia portal. If you would like me to I have a bot that I can run to create these pages for you --Cspurrier 00:57, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

MrM and RfAr
I have listed the issues with Mrmiscellanious for arbitration as the WN:DISPUTE process is pointless at this stage, due to MrM having no interest in responding- Cartman02au <SMALL>(Talk)(AU Portal)</SMALL> 09:31, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I have now added my name as an involved party. Neutralizer 14:06, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I am not entirely sure you see my motives for bringing the MrM issue to the ArbCom. The Dispute resolution attempt was exhausted and as such we should go to the next step in the chain - the ArbCom. MrM has been given the opportunity to work with us to gain a resolution yet has failed to do so. Given that a week had passed, I felt that ArbCom was the only cause of action left - Cartman02au <SMALL>(Talk)(AU Portal)</SMALL> 08:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Protest at Sydney Opera House
Are you going to be covering the IR protest at the opera house today? - Cartman02au <SMALL>(Talk)(AU Portal)</SMALL> 22:45, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * This protest - Cartman02au <SMALL>(Talk)(AU Portal)</SMALL> 02:36, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

A question
Borofkin, I have a question for you. How close does Wikinews allow people to fly to copyright? I understand that most of the articles here are derivative, but I've been noticing for a while now that when you look at the articles by one particular editor, they are often just one paragraph taken from different articles with one or two words changed and then pasted together. Sometimes no words at all are change. I consider this to be a copyvio, is it here on Wikinews? Sarah Ewart (Talk) 01:14, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply (and Amgine as well). Next time I notice something I'll tag it. What I noticed today wasn't as bad as some of the previous ones, but FWIW this is an example :

 * Wikinews: "The couple accepted flowers and chatted with the crowd for a few minutes before being driven off in a black Rolls Royce."

 * : "The royal couple accepted bunches of flowers and chatted with the crowd for a few minutes before being driven away in a black Rolls Royce."
 * Thanks again for your reply. I appreciate it. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 03:20, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Investigative Reporting
Thanks for the offer of help, I may take you up on that too :) - Cartman02au <SMALL>(Talk)(AU Portal)</SMALL> 01:52, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

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Request for Arbitration
You have been listed as an involved party in Requests for arbitration/Users Cartman02au et al v Mrmiscellanious. Please visit Requests for arbitration/Users Cartman02au et al v Mrmiscellanious/Evidence to add evidence if you wish. --Chiacomo (talk) 00:08, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Recent comment on "Bush Approval rating" talk page
I'm sorry that you think I am "preaching about your misdeeds". My wish is for everyone on this site to collaborate in a productive and cheerful way. Whenever I comment on a conflict, or leave a message on your talk page, it is with this goal in mind. All I am trying to do is make suggestions as to how you could better interact with other contributors. In this particular conflict, I don't really have a strong opinion either way, although the article definitely needs further work. My comment was not about the article, or your concerns about the article. It was about how you can improve your collaboration with other users. If your goal is to make this article neutral, you will have far more success through discussion. - Borofkin 02:42, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

money
As per our bet.

 * This email confirms that you have paid Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. $5.00 USD using PayPal.
 * This credit card transaction will appear on your bill as "PAYPAL *WIKIMEDIA".

Stupid lifetime movie network. Although I refuse to actually watch the channel to check, a search of IMDB reveals no Sago Mine Disaster lifetime movie channel movies. Since it is now past both of our timeframes I've paid half of the bet to the foundation. --Sfullenwider 03:53, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Blocked
You have been blocked from editing, for 24 hours, due to breaking 3RR. Please see WN:ALERT for an discussion on this. Feel free to contact me via e-mail,IRC or your talkpage, if you wish to contest this block Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 08:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, fine then. If users want to ignore me, revert wars are what they'll get.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 11:45, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * This is jus the kind of stuff that ticks me off. You get blocked for a little 3RR but when personal attacks are made and intentionaly violating policy, then its ignored. This is one reason why I do not wish to work with some current admins. They do not work together. I agree with MrM. this just makes matters worse and causes more wars. Jason Safoutin 11:50, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Jason. You again. I don't understand at all what this paragraph is about but I have an attitude nonetheless that you and MrM are jedi. MartinGugino 12:40, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikinews Accreditation
I was told that you send the press cards for accredited editors. Could you send me one? - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 00:32, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, if I dont get them I will let you know - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 21:16, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I would appreciate it if you could email them to me magnaboy@westnet.com.au. Cheers :) - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 07:59, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Why leaving?
I notice on our ArbCom case discussion page that you are leaving in a week. Why is this? Frankly, I want to go on record stating that it will be a loss to the community. I might disagree with some of what you do (hence the reason for dispute resolution etc), but I believe that you do a large amount of good on the site - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 00:38, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

ArbCom
You are probably sick of me spamming you today but I would like to understand a few things. Why are you opposed to ArbCom? Why do you think I am attacking you? What pi*ses you off about me? What can I do better? Frankly, I always like to hear criticism about myself, it can only help to make me work better in the community - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 00:38, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Dang
Why don't you just do sports stories. I know you love them, and I like reading them. -Edbrown05 14:38, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm tempted, but am too lazy and uninterested to see how Indymedia stacks up in readership compared to Wikinews. I think Wikinews should remain unique unto itself. I know actions on your behalf are done to hold Wikinews to standards that you believe express the wishes of the community. The question is, have you crossed that line? -Edbrown05 00:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of editorials
Hi MrM... just wondering, under what criteria of WN:SD (or other policy) do we speedy-delete editorials? - Borofkin 02:50, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response to my question. My personal opinion on this is that an article must unambiguously meet one of the SD criteria before it can be speedy-deleted. Therefore if a single person disputes the deletion (with the exception of the original contributor, I suppose) then it should be restored, and then go through WN:DR. Do you agree with this? - Borofkin 05:09, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * So do you agree that if someone disputes the deletion, then it is no longer "undisputably in violation"? Or to put it another way, what would it take for you to reconsider your decision and allow it to go back to the community to decide? - Borofkin 05:18, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I still consider this whole approach to be on touchy ground, with respect to the separation of editing activities and administrator activities. The appropriate way for NPOV or sourcing issues to be dealt with is by the community, within the main article space. Just because an article doesn't meet our policies is no reason to move it out of the main namespace - it should be tagged and worked on there. The only exceptions are articles which unambiguously meet the SD criteria. - Borofkin 05:25, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with Borofkin, also source tags make a huge diffrence if we don't have a story about them already. If the source tags are good, the editorial portions of the article could be blanked instead, ideally with some effort to create a brief, but not necessarily.  Nyarlathotep 12:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I was joking about suing
but please delete my talk page, I want a fresh one. 205.177.72.66 23:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Please refrain from personal attacks
Hi MrM... I realise that these are difficult times, however you should still not engage in personal attacks. I consider this edit to contain a personal attack. No actions by other users justifies the sentence "please have your eyes checked". - Borofkin 00:47, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Would you like to know why I think that you shouldn't engage in personal attacks, or why I think that particular edit constituted a personal attack, or why I think that actions by other users don't justify personal attacks? - Borofkin 00:59, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I think that telling another user to "please have your eyes checked" is a personal attack because it references a physical attribute in a sarcastic and demeaning way. You quite obviously don't believe that the other contributor may have vision problems. You have a history of personal attacks, and such behaviour is not acceptable on this wiki. If you continue to make such attacks you will be blocked. - Borofkin 01:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Iran and the Security Council
Hi MrM, would you have a look at the Security Council article; I've made a lot of changes without review. I'm guessing you're an interested party. SethDelisle 01:09, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Bahrain article
I did check and there was none, it must have been publsihed at the same time. 205.177.72.66 22:23, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Podcast
Do you have the Feedburner stats for it? I'm just wondering how many people subscribe. The Latest news RSS feed has just over 4,000 subscribers, btw. Dan100 (Talk) 10:54, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * BTW I must say that's great work you've done with the podcast. I'd never have thought of the e-mail update thing (when I ran the article RSS manually, I did it all myself - over 2,000 posts! Thank goodness for the automated version we have now!). Dan100 (Talk) 13:03, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually I thought if I'm asking you to look up the stats I should return the favour - yesterday (Thursday March 30) we had 3,996 (d'oh!) subscribers (quick! we need four more!). Top story was the son who gouged mothers eyes dies one, with 359 reads. So we reach a respectable - and growing! - audience. Dan100 (Talk) 13:07, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Accreditation Pass
Would you mind sending it to me? My email is above - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 02:02, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) - Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 10:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Could I please be sent one, I was Accreditated back in Jan :), mY e-mail is  Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 11:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Academic Challenger
About four months ago someone claiming to be a Wikipedia administrator named Academic Challenger asked you to help him with his user page. The problem is that the person who created this account is not the real Wikipedia user Academic Challenger. I am the real Wikipedia User Academic Challenger. Since I see you are still an ative contributor, I was wondering how I should go about fixing this. I will post a message on my Wikipedia user page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Academic_Challenger using my Wikipedia account, saying that the Wikinews account is not me. The wikinews user never made any contributions. Can I blank his user page and post my own message? Thanks for your help. 149.137.114.130 21:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Podcast stats
Hi MrM, just wondering if you could check the podcast circulation stats again for me? I'm interested to see what a week of more prominent promotion on the Main Page has done. Dan100 (Talk) 10:19, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

cleanup tag
please mention the specifics of the cleanup tag u've added to Indian police break up hunger strike over dam project. Doldrums 13:40, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

source for Libby edit
can u please point to the source for this statement u added to Libby says Bush authorized NIE leaks. thanks. Doldrums 13:51, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

RE: RE: Libby edits
i'm once again asking you to Doldrums 19:40, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
 * point to the text in the source article which substantiates ur edit, as i've read thro' the NJ article and have not found it.
 * place actionable objections for the hunger strike article, fix the article or remove the cleanup tag. the explanation posted with the tag is not specific enough for other editors to use.

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Wikinews:Requests for arbitration/Users Cartman02au et al v Mrmiscellanious/Proposed decision

all proposed

After considering /Evidence and discussing proposals with other arbitrators, parties and others at /Workshop place proposals which are ready for voting here.

Arbitrators should vote for or against each point or abstain.
 * Only items that receive a majority "support" vote will be passed.
 * Items that receive a majority "oppose" vote will be formally rejected.
 * Items that do not receive a majority "support" or "oppose" vote will be open to possible amendment by any Arbitrator if she/he so chooses. After the amendment process is complete, the item will be voted on one last time.

Conditional votes for or against and abstentions should be explained by the Arbitrator before or after his/her time-stamped signature. For example, an Arbitrator can state that she/he would only favor a particular remedy based on whether or not another remedy/remedies were passed.

On this case, [0] Arbitrators is/are recused and [0] is/are inactive, so [4] votes are a majority.

Proposed wording to be modified by Arbitrators and then voted on. Non-Arbitrators may comment on the talk page.
 * For all items:

Motions and requests by the parties
Place those on /Workshop.

Proposed temporary injunctions
Four net "support" votes needed to pass (each "oppose" vote subtracts a "support") 24 hours from the first vote is normally the fastest an injunction will be imposed.

Mrmiscellanious is placed on Administrative Probation
1) Mrmiscellanious is placed on Administrative Probation and is instructed not to use Sysop tools (including delete, block, roll-back) until this Arbitration is completed. Administrators may enforce this injunction through the use of short blocks not to exceed 12 hours. Blocks enacted under this injuction should be logged on WN:ALERT.

 * Support:
 * IlyaHaykinson 06:13, 29 March 2006 (UTC) for now.
 * Edbrown05 06:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 22:54, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose:
 * I might support if this was a bit more targeted (do not use admin tools fox x things) Cspurrier 15:16, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Abstain:

MrM stops admin in almost all cases
1) MrM does not use the following admin tools
 * 1) Delete
 * 2) Block
 * 3) Rollback
 * With the exception of mass vandalism (e.g. whilley on wheels) (not even simple vandalism).

 * He can still revert, but only by normal means. In addition he is put on personal attack probation. Any personal attack in any form no matter how much of an attack it was resaults in an immmediate block of ten minutes to two hours.

 * Support:
 * Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 00:02, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Oppose:
 * -Edbrown05 05:53, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Abstain:

Template
1)

{text of proposed orders}

 * Support:

 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:

=Proposed final decision=

Civility and personal attacks
1) Insulting and intimidating other users harms the community by creating a hostile environment. All users are instructed to refrain from this activity. Admins are instructed to use good judgement while enforcing this policy. All users are encouraged to remove personal attacks on sight.

2) The Wiki software and Wikinews policy anticipates that disputes may arise regarding the wording and content of Wikinews articles. When disputes arise, editors are expected to engage in discussion with other users and suggest reasonable compromises with regard to article wording, content and research to support Wikinews articles.

 * Support:
 * -Edbrown05 06:00, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 03:08, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * --Deprifry|+T+ 11:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Chiacomo (talk) 05:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * IlyaHaykinson 15:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * --Cspurrier 13:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:

Consensus building and compromise
1) As put forward in Dispute resolution Wikinews works by building consensus. This is done through the use of polite discussion, in an attempt to develop a consensus regarding proper application of Policies and guidelines such as Neutral point of view.

2) In cases where compromise cannot be reached, users are expected to follow the Dispute resolution process.

 * Support:
 * -Edbrown05 05:25, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Going seperate ways is nearly impossible on a small community such as this one. --Deprifry|+T+ 11:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Chiacomo (talk) 05:13, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * IlyaHaykinson 15:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:
 * Although I agree with the main spirit of this, not always is Dispute res appropriate. Sometimes it is best just for the users to go their seperate ways. Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 03:07, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with Bawolff--Cspurrier 13:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Personal attacks are prohibited
1) Personal attacks damage the community and deter users, see Etiquette.

2) Making personal attacks on other users is not permitted.

3) Wikinews editors avoid responding in kind when personally attacked.

 * Support:
 * -Edbrown05 05:27, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 03:05, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * --Deprifry|+T+ 11:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Chiacomo (talk) 05:13, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * IlyaHaykinson 15:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * --Cspurrier 13:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:

Provocation
1) When user is having trouble due to editing conflicts or a dispute with another user, it is inappropriate to provoke them, as it is predictable that the situation will escalate. Provocation of a new or inexperienced user by an experienced and sophisticated user is especially inappropriate.

 * Support:
 * -Edbrown05 05:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 03:04, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * --Deprifry|+T+ 11:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Chiacomo (talk) 05:13, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * IlyaHaykinson 15:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose:
 * I with agree with the first part, but inexperienced users should not be treated any differently then any other users.--Cspurrier 13:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Abstain:

Administrators
1) Wikinews Administrators are expected to be ambassadors of and to the community and its editors.

 * Support:
 * I'd like to think so. --Deprifry|+T+ 11:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Chiacomo (talk) 05:14, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * IlyaHaykinson 15:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Oppose:
 * -Edbrown05 05:29, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
 * This is nice in theory, and I hope our admins can be considered ambassadors, but admins are not nor should be any different then any other user. --Cspurrier 13:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Abstain:
 * -Edbrown05 06:11, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Template
1) {text of proposed principle}

 * Support:

 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:

Personal attacks by Mrmiscellanious
1) Mrmiscellanious has made numerous personal attacks including calling |calling users "babies", stating that |editors are are "not fit" for Wikinews, |instructing users to "get the hell out of here", accusing users of being |"lazy", and other attacks.

 * Support:
 * -Edbrown05 06:05, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Chiacomo (talk) 05:14, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * --Deprifry|+T+ 05:14, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * IlyaHaykinson 15:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * --Cspurrier 13:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:

Personal attacks by other users
1) Other involved users have also engaged in personal attacks

 * Support:
 * Well, Neut did. I'm pretty sure others did too. However just because one person did something rude, doesn't give you the right to do it to them.Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 03:03, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * per Bawolff --Deprifry|+T+ 05:14, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * IlyaHaykinson 15:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * --Cspurrier 13:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:
 * Chiacomo (talk) 05:14, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Mrmiscellanious has failed to collaborate
1) Mrmiscellanious has failed at times to adequately collaborate and communicate during article creation -- thereby sidestepping the consensus building process essential to the community.

 * Support:
 * Chiacomo (talk) 05:15, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 05:19, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * IlyaHaykinson 15:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:
 * MrM has on several occasions attempted to collaborate and been ignored or attacked, however on many others he has simply failed to collaborate.--Cspurrier 13:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

The Dispute resolution process was not allowed to work because it was not followed

 * 1) To resolve differences, parties to the dispute should be willing to engage in efforts to find a solution.
 * 2) Failure to work towards resolving differences creates an atmosphere of ill-will that is not conductive to reporting news. Responding to the community is essential.

 * Users Borofkin, Neutralizer, Vonbergm, Cartman02au and International sought to address concerns with actions made by MrMiscellanious on a single 'Dispute resolution' page [linked above] where mediation was sought. MrMiscellanious answered the effort to work towards resolving differences with, "I refuse any requests for 'mediation'."
 * After the parties seeking relief moved the mediation to ArbCom, MrMiscellanious responded to that 'Dispute resolution' page by saying, "None of the users brought up "points". They were attacks. Nothing but attacks. That breaks one of the dispute's rules, but obviously those aren't being looked at, either. I am dumbfounded by users who claim the dispute resolution is anything but detrimental."

 * Support:
 * IlyaHaykinson 15:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 20:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:
 * --Cspurrier 13:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

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1) {text of proposed finding of fact}

 * Support:

 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:

Proposed remedies
Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.

Mrmiscellanious on personal attack probation
1) Mrmiscellanious will refrain from making personal attacks against other editors. For the period of 2 months from the close of this arbitration, any administrator will block Mrmiscellanious for any edit appearing to be a personal attack. This block, notwithstanding existing policy, shall not excede 24 hours.

 * Support:

 * Oppose:
 * -Edbrown05 06:11, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 03:03, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Chiacomo (talk) 05:15, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Abstain:
 * --Deprifry|+T+ 05:15, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * IlyaHaykinson 15:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * --Cspurrier 13:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Mrmiscellanious will participate in consensus building
1) For a period of two months following the close of this arbtiration, as suggested in Etiquette, Mrmiscellanious is instructed to answer questions clearly and succinctly on article talk pages concerning his objections to the publishing of said article. Editors may disregard article tags which are not explained on article talk pages if an explanation is requested.

 * Support:
 * Chiacomo (talk) 05:15, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Oppose:
 * IlyaHaykinson 15:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * --Cspurrier 13:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Abstain:
 * -Edbrown05 06:20, 31 March 2006 (UTC). Instruction creep
 * --Deprifry|+T+ 05:15, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Mrmiscellanious reconfirmation as administrator to be decide by vote
1) The adminstrative buttons of Mrmiscellanious are removed until a new request by the community to support them is approved. A new Request for Adminship shall begin 14 days after the close of this arbitration, and proceed as normal with a 7 day duration.
 * Support:
 * -Edbrown05 07:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Oppose:
 * Chiacomo (talk) 05:16, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * --Deprifry|+T+ 05:15, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * IlyaHaykinson 15:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * --Cspurrier 13:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Abstain:

Mrmiscellanious shall be subject to re-confirmation as administrator
1) Mrmiscellanious shall be subject to re-confirmation as an administrator by the community. This Request for Adminship shall begin 14 days after the close of this arbitration and proceed as normal with a 7 day duration. Mrmiscellanious shall remain an administrator following the close of this arbitration unless consensus is not reached to reconfirm him.

 * Support:
 * Provided principle above entitled Administrators is adopted. Chiacomo (talk) 05:18, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * --Deprifry|+T+ 05:15, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 05:20, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * IlyaHaykinson 15:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:
 * --Cspurrier 13:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

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 * Support:

 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:

Template
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 * Support:

 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:

Template
1) {text of proposed enforcement}

 * Support:

 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:

Template
1) {text of proposed enforcement}

 * Support:

 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:

Template
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 * Support:

 * Oppose:

 * Abstain:

=Discussion by Arbitrators=

Implementation notes
''Arbitrators should use this section to clarify their understanding of the final decision--at a minimum, a list of items that have passed. Additionally, a list of which remedies are conditional on others (for instance a ban that should only be implemented if a mentorship should fail), and so on. Arbitrators should not pass the motion until they are satisfied with the implementation notes.''

The following principles are adopted as presented above and quoted here in brief:

 * Civility and personal attacks
 * 1) Insulting and intimidating other users harms the community by creating a hostile environment. All users are instructed to refrain from this activity. Admins are instructed to use good judgement while enforcing this policy. All users are encouraged to remove personal attacks on sight.
 * 2) The Wiki software and Wikinews policy anticipates that disputes may arise regarding the wording and content of Wikinews articles. When disputes arise, editors are expected to engage in discussion with other users and suggest reasonable compromises with regard to article wording, content and research to support Wikinews articles.
 * (Adopted 6/0/0/0)

 * Consensus building and compromise
 * 1) As put forward in Dispute resolution Wikinews works by building consensus. This is done through the use of polite discussion, in an attempt to develop a consensus regarding proper application of Policies and guidelines such as Neutral point of view.
 * 2) In cases where compromise cannot be reached, users are expected to follow the Dispute resolution process.
 * (Adopted 4/0/2/0)

 * Personal attacks are prohibited
 * 1) Personal attacks damage the community and deter users, see Etiquette.
 * 2) Making personal attacks on other users is not permitted.
 * 3) Wikinews editors avoid responding in kind when personally attacked.
 * (Adoptd 6/0/0/0)

 * Provocation
 * 1) When user is having trouble due to editing conflicts or a dispute with another user, it is inappropriate to provoke them, as it is predictable that the situation will escalate. Provocation of a new or inexperienced user by an experienced and sophisticated user is especially inappropriate.
 * (Adopted 5/1/0/0)

 * Administrators
 * 1) Wikinews Administrators are expected to be ambassadors of and to the community and its editors.
 * (Adopted 3/1/1/1)

The following findings of fact are adopted as presented above and quoted here in brief:

 * Personal attacks by Mrmiscellanious
 * 1) Mrmiscellanious has made numerous personal attacks including calling |calling users "babies", stating that |editors are are "not fit" for Wikinews, |instructing users to "get the hell out of here", accusing users of being |"lazy", and other attacks.
 * (Adopted 5/0/0/1)

 * Personal attacks by other users
 * 1) Other involved users have also engaged in personal attacks
 * (Adopted 5/0/1/0)

 * Mrmiscellanious has failed to collaborate
 * 1) Mrmiscellanious has failed at times to adequately collaborate and communicate during article creation -- thereby sidestepping the consensus building process essential to the community.
 * (Adopted 3/0/1/2)

The following remedies are adopted as presented above and quoted here in brief:

 * Mrmiscellanious shall be subject to re-confirmation as administrator
 * 1) Mrmiscellanious shall be subject to re-confirmation as an administrator by the community. This Request for Adminship shall begin 14 days after the close of this arbitration and proceed as normal with a 7 day duration. Mrmiscellanious shall remain an administrator following the close of this arbitration unless consensus is not reached to reconfirm him.
 * (Adopted 4/0/1/1)

Vote
Four net "support" votes needed to close case (each "oppose" vote subtracts a "support") 24 hours from the first motion is normally the fastest a case will close.

 * Support
 * IlyaHaykinson 15:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * --Cspurrier 13:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Chiacomo (talk) 23:16, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * --Deprifry|+T+ 06:35, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Bawolff ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] Glad to see this setteled. 19:49, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose