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Investigation wanted into the murders of Iraqi academics

February 26, 2006

Majid Majhoul Hawi al-Moussawi said his family "locked the door and left for Syria, the only country that would have us. We are grateful, but there is no work. There is nothing for us here." He took his family out of Baghdad after his daughter Hanan, 16, was kidnapped.

Professionals in Iraq say they face a deteriorating situation. Young physicians are looking for other countries to train in and even the patients are leaving, no longer confident in the care they can get in Iraq.

Dr. Omar Kubasi supported the claims that a systematic campaign to destroy Iraqi academia is occurring, stating, "I think it's part of the plan for the country's destruction. The situation in the last six months has gotten so bad, we couldn't continue."

Amer Hassan Fayed, assistant dean of political science at Baghdad University said; "It's creating a brain drain, we could end up with a society without knowledge. How can such a society make progress?"

Hundreds of Iraqi academics have been assassinated since the U.S.-led coalition invasion in March 2003, and there have been no charges brought against any suspects in the murders. Caroline Lucas, the Green Party MEP for Southeast England, is calling for a United Nations investigation into the killings which, she said, is forcing thousands of Iraqi educators to flee for their lives. "Iraq is undergoing a major brain drain, and can ill afford to lose academics and teachers to a continuing wave of violence. Iraq's education system, once one of the best in the region, has been decimated: some 84 percent of the country's higher education institutions have been burned, looted or destroyed, according to the United Nations University. These assassinations, which appear to be countrywide, non-partisan and non-sectarian, must be investigated by the U.N. Special Rapporteur on summary executions -- and those responsible brought to justice. Iraq needs security and stability, but it is clear that the continued U.S. and (British) occupation is contributing to the problem, not the solution," Lucas said.


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Talk:Investigation wanted into the murders of Iraqi academics

Is this fabric for a new story?
"I think it's part of the plan for the country's destruction"...coming from an Iraqi doctor, it can't be written off as a "conspiracy theory"..or can it? Is it possible that the brightest minds in America knew exactly what would happen in Iraq? After all...Powell did tell Bush "you break it...you'll own it"...maybe we wanted to own it? is there a new story here..."I think it's part of the plan for the country's destruction"...? Neutralizer 22:22, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think you can write it off as a conspiracy theory, but it is the opinion of someone who has despaired of the situation within the country being solved in the short-term. Figures rather than anecdotal reports on how many are leaving are the one thing I'd look to add to this. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:32, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The issue is "the plan for the country's destruction" rather than how many are leaving; and this wikipedia article has explained virtually everything going on in the world today to my satisfaction. Neutralizer 02:40, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Are there any sources that are newer? I do not see how this qualifies as being in February. Jason Safoutin 02:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * There are lots of sources that are older: List of killed, threatened or kidnapped Iraqi academics. Getting "primary" material (in the wikipedia sense of online references which are written in a reasonably factual and objective style and must have been through at least some sort of review process in order to get published) is naturally difficult regarding Iraqi academics - Iraq still has only a few tens of thousands of internet users (last time i looked - while Iran has 7.5 million), but there are some sources around - look for the killed academics' names with links and see the Sources section at the bottom - also, the wikipedia page has been stable for a month, so it seems that there's no easily available information discrediting the claim that a systematic campaign to kill Iraqi academics/professionals is being carried out. Boud 04:26, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

invasion was wrong
We should have ignored the fact that saddam broke the 1991 cease fire agreement, ignored the UN resolutions, decieved the weapons inspectors, and supported suicide bombers in israel. We should have let saddam stay in power, and the murder of innocent Iraqi's continue... because their education system would still be good...


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London Mayor Ken Livingstone faces month-long suspension over Nazi jibe

February 25, 2006

The Adjudication Panel for England has ruled that London Mayor Ken Livingstone should be suspended from office for one month over an insult given to an Evening Standard reporter in which he likened the reporter to a concentration camp guard after being hassled by the reporter outside his home.

The suspension of an elected representative by an unelected panel over an issue in which a law was not broken is unprecedented. The Mayor's deputy, Nicky Gavron, has condemned the decision, as has the chairman of the Association of London Government Robin Wales.

Ken Livingstone will announce next week what his action will be. He may appeal to the High Court.


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Earthquake hits Ottawa, Canada

February 25, 2006 "An earthquake struck Ottawa, Canada at approximately 8:45 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on February 24, 2006." said one area resident. Natural Resources Canada, however, says the earthquake of 4.5 magnitude struck Western Quebec on February 25 at approximately 1:39 UTC (Coordinated Universal Time) which is effectively GMT (Greenwich Mean Time). (Earthquakes are generally listed in UTC time to ensure an absolute and consistent basis of when they occurred.) This may have been felt several hundred kilometres away.

Located North of Thurso
According to the Canadian Press the earthquake was centred north of Thurso, Quebec, "approximately 45 kilometres east-northeast of Ottawa, said John Adams, a seismologist with Natural Resources Canada." Witness reports state somewhat violent shaking with little or no property or personal damage. "It started as a rumble, then shaking... the whole house was shaking and the glasses were rattling," said Jeff Thiessen, a resident of Manor Park. One Ottawa resident said "the ground shook for about 30 seconds and was felt by residents near the city center." There were no immediate reports of injuries or damage to property.

According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) "A magnitude 4.0 eastern earthquake typically can be felt at many places as far as 100 km (60 mi) from where it occurred, and it infrequently causes damage near its source."

Follow-up reports indicate that rumbles could be felt as far as Kingston, Ontario, Montreal, Quebec and New York. The Canadian Geological Survey stated 14 seismometer stations revising a magnitude of 4.5 from 2.99 on the Richter Scale. The USGS pronounced it to be a 4.0 tremor.

Seismic region far from plate boundaries
The Edinburgh earth observatory also demonstrates that this earthquake, with a reported depth of approx. 18 km, occurred near the North American Plate. However, according to USGS, "the Western Quebec seismic zone is far from the nearest plate boundaries, which are in the center of the Atlantic Ocean and in the Caribbean Sea." Because the area has many faults, some smaller, deeper and some not yet detected, few, if any, earthquakes can be linked to named faults. Furthermore USGS says that the best guide to predicting earthquakes of the sort, in the Western Quebec seismic zone, is actually having the earthquake.

Pattern of quakes in the area
The Ontario region has not encountered a major earthquake since October 1990 when a 5.0 occurred in Eastern Ontario. The Ottawa Sun reports this is the third significant tremor in the region for 2006. The two largest damaging earthquakes for this region occurred in "1935 (magnitude 6.1) at the northwestern end of the seismic zone, and in 1732 (magnitude 6.2) 450 km (280 mi) away at the southeastern end of the zone where it caused significant damage in Montreal." Smaller earthquakes, such as this, are felt about three to four times a year.

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User talk:219.65.123.84

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Australian treasurer makes "extremely divisive" comments

February 24, 2006 Australian Federal treasurer Peter Costello, next in line for Prime Minister, has called for Muslim extremists to be stripped of their citizenship. In a speech to the on the 23rd February, he described multiculturalism as "mushy and misguided".

Politicians from all sides have spoken out at the remarks and many from the Islamic community say they're offended by Mr Costello's comments, with Muslim leaders saying that it is "extremely divisive" and a blight on Australia's international reputation.

Mr Costello particularly singled out Muslims in his remarks, saying extremists should move to countries where they feel more comfortable. Mr Costello's comments targeting Muslim extremists, won support from Prime Minister John Howard, and controversial ex-politician.

"Before entering a mosque visitors are asked to take off their shoes," Mr Costello said. "This is a sign of respect. If you have a strong objection to walking in your socks don't enter the mosque. Before becoming an Australian you will be asked to subscribe to certain values. If you have strong objection to those values don't come to Australia."

Abdul El Ayoubi, a director of the  said, "it's upsetting to hear such comments, especially when you consider that the majority of Muslims have accepted the Australian way of life and Australian values."

45 per cent of Australia's population are from culturally diverse backgrounds. The Ethnic Communities' Council of Victoria (ECCV) has called for tolerance rather than division. "Peter Costello's comments are divisive, arrogant, provocative and do nothing to unite the nation at a time when responsible leadership on this issue is called for," ECCV chairman Phong Nguyen said.

"To have the leaders of our nation, such at the Prime Minister and Treasurer, making gratuitous comments about race and religion based on ill-founded perceptions rather than facts, is extremely divisive and will harm Australia nationally and internationally," he said.

Mr Nguyen said Mr Costello appeared to be aligning himself with the "now discredited argument of his colleague – that Australia is in danger of becoming a Muslim nation".

In his speech Mr Costello made a public call for Muslims who want to live under sharia law to find another country, while also referring to "mushy multiculturalism".

Justin Li, vice chair of the NSW Ethnic Communities' Council, said Mr Costello's comments had deliberately and unfairly targeted Muslims.

"Obviously nobody supports violent people in our society, but what we don't understand is why allegedly violent Muslims are any different from any violent people of other cultures or religions," he said. "What about deporting the people who participated in riots in last year? Those people did not exhibit any Australian values in their actions."

Mr Li added the comments were "political point scoring" made to sit well with sections of the community which do not support multiculturalism. "Our political leaders think that there is advantage to be gained making comments against our Muslim Australians at this stage in time," he said.

Malcolm Thomas from the says it's the fact that Mr Costello singled out Muslims. "If you remove the word Muslim from what he said, well then I totally agree with Peter. Yeah, I'm prepared, just as much as Peter, to be as intolerant to anyone who wants to attack Australia and the Australian values, irrespective of their race or religion or ethnicity," said Mr Thomas. "Language is everything. The words are marginalising a segment of our community and creating division within the community."

Mr Thomas also points out that the suggestion to strip people of citizenship has limited potential, given that a third of Muslims living here were born here. "Australian Muslims are Australian. We can't differentiate that. And I think people need to keep that in mind." he said.

Another Muslim community leader said Costello is promoting division and and should be censured. , president of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, has said he genuinely hoped the Prime Minister would censure Mr Costello.

Mr Trad said nobody was protesting Australia's laws through any other means than the normal democratic process. "We have not asked for sharia law to be imposed. I don't know anyone in this country who is asking for sharia law to be imposed and I don't known anyone in this country who has rejected the rule of law," he told. "Rather than try to promote understanding and harmony in this society, his comments are highly divisive and he is stirring up Islamophobia, and these comments should really be beneath any decent politician."

In his speech, Mr Costello said where there was reason to believe people were not truthfully or honestly meeting their citizenship test, there was every right for them to be denied citizenship.

"If by subsequent conduct they show that they don't meet the test then we could invite them to forfeit their Australian citizenship," he said. "Now you can only do this if they have another citizenship."

But Mr El Ayoubi said: "If you've come to this country, you've come to this country to live under a democratic system and you've come into this country to abide by the rules, the principles and the values of this country, and you should do that."

Mr Costello emphasised that Australia is a secular state under which the freedom of all religions is protected. "But there is not a separate stream of law derived from religious sources that competes with or supplants Australian law in governing our civil society," he said. "The source of our law is the democratically elected legislature. If a person wants to live under sharia law these are countries where they might feel at ease. But not Australia."

Mr Costello said there were some beliefs and values which were so central to Australian society that those who refused to accept them refused to accept the nature of Australian society.

"If someone cannot honestly make the citizenship pledge, they cannot honestly take out citizenship," he said. "If they have taken it out already they should not be able to keep it where they have citizenship in some other country."

His comments follow Prime Minister John Howard's claims this week that a fragment of the Islamic community is "utterly antagonistic to our kind of society". Last week Liberal backbencher Danna Vale said that Australia could become a Muslim nation within 50 years because "we are aborting ourselves almost out of existence".

Mr Costello said he had attended an Australia day citizenship ceremony at the Stonnington Town Hall in his electorate of Higgins during which a state MP "extolled the virtues of multiculturalism". He said the MP said becoming an Australian did not mean giving up one's culture or language or religion — and it certainly did not mean giving up the love of their country of birth.

"The longer he went on about how important it was not to give up anything to become an Australian, the more it seemed to me that, in his view, becoming an Australian didn't seem to mean very much at all, other than getting a new passport."

Islamic Council of Victoria president Malcolm Thomas said he was disappointed at Mr Costello's speech. "We have had the uninformed comments of Danna Vale, we have had the comments made by the Prime Minister and now we have these comments — all they do is reinforce a stereotype which doesn't exist." Mr Thomas said that singling out Muslims was pandering to a conspiracy that Muslims wanted to overtake Australia.

"Australian Muslims are Australians first," he said. "They abide by the law and they want to live here in peace and harmony. They are not interested in taking over the country. They are not interested in creating a theocracy".

Ikebal Patel, an executive member of the, said the comments were "inflammatory". "Islam law teaches that when you go into a country you embrace the laws of that country," Mr Patel said. "I hope we are not going away from multiculturalism as the founding stone of our immigration policy."

Mr Patel said the timing of the comments smacked of an attempt by the Government to deflect attention from the AWB scandal.

Mr Costello said Muslims who did not like the depiction of the in newspapers should recognise this does not justify violence.


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Can somebody please includemore details? (Hpetwe 06:02, 25 February 2006 (UTC))


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Please do not vandalize Wikinews. --Chiacomo (talk) 06:52, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

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At the moment this is my IP, and I am not pondering register with this wiki too.

If you want to reach me, write at sv:w:Användardiskussion:RaSten. 07:50, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

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John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life"

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“It’s no use telling politicians to ‘go to hell’; they’re busy building it for us”

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"Well, we knocked the bastard off!" Sir Edmund Hillary after Climbing Mt. Everest

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“It was an old missionary who gave cannibals the first taste of Christianity”

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Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness." (Source wikiquote)

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FBI confirms that ricin was not found at the University of Texas

February 25, 2006

The FBI has confirmed that the chunky substance discovered in the Moore-Hill dormitory at the University of Texas on Thursday is not the poison ricin.

Ricin is one of the most deadly poisons in the world and can exist in the form of a pellet, mist, or powder. Some symptoms of exposure can include vomiting and dehydration, sweating, nausea, fever, cough and difficulty of breathing.

An earlier report by the Associated Press had said tests had found the substance might be ricin. Such tests are designed to error on the side of caution, thus ensuring that possible poisoning victims receive treatment in time.

Last year there were similar false positive reports of ricin in London, which were further publicized by Vice President Cheney and Secretary of State Colin L. Powell.


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Unprotected Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 21:29, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, but you have not shown any specific examples in stating that this article was biased in any way. Additionally, NPOV goes further into stating that: "But rather than introducing their own cultural bias, they should seek to improve articles by removing any examples of cultural bias that they encounter."

--MrMiscellanious (talk) – 16:45, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

npov
Please allow in the "false positive" information as that makes for a more npov story. Neutralizer 14:00, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The false positve has NOTHING top do with the current at hand news. Therefore there is no need for it. Jason Safoutin 14:01, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I respectfully disagree...we can't be repeating alarmist test results without mentioning they have been often wrong before; and we certainly can't be calling it a "deadly poison" when it isn't usually deadly. Neutralizer 14:05, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I have to go out now, but I will place the tag as I see no valid reason whatsoever to not report the previous instances of "false positives" relating to this poison. Neutralizer 14:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * This is what the CURRENT news says...unless you can provide a source with a date of today, and that relates in any way to this story or the University of Texas, your edits are not faithful and Unfactual. Jason Safoutin 14:09, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Moved from my talk page;

Your edit to add a false positve quote and source has no basis for the current news and or reports. The source is not current. Unless you can provide a source from today, on this case. your edits are not faithful. Jason Safoutin 14:07, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I disagree; what harm does it do to report there have been "false positives" related to test results for this poison? Why should we present it as an absolute fact that the substance is ricin? Neutralizer 14:12, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * At this monet, this second, as we know, as sources state, there is no false positive. The test at this momnet is positive. The fasle posioticve or a negative has nothing whatsoever to do with this current story. Therefore is considered unfactual to the news at hand and also misleading. The source you provide is old. And unless you7 can provide a source that says the test is negative, from today, related directly to the news at hand, and related to the University of Texas case, then and edits of falses or negatives or anthing that is unfactual to the news at hand, is not faithful. Jason Safoutin 14:17, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Your objections are not actionable. See above. Jason Safoutin 14:21, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Not actionable

 * Once again, provide you reason that is actionable. You are at this point, until you can provide sources for your objections, tagging an article without actionable objections, which is site disruption. Jason Safoutin 14:26, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Jason, your wrong about the false positive not being relevant, leave it in. Nyarlathotep 16:19, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Therefore I have tagged it . Does not in any way pertain to current events. Jason Safoutin 16:24, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * If you want to write something about an event a year ago, go to Wikipedia. This is a news site and we report on facts of what they are right now...not a year ago or a year in the future. I removed publish and added develop....misleading remains. Jason Safoutin 16:31, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does, its give context. It shouldn't dominate the article, hence my leaving N's related news bit commented out, but it should be present.  I rewrote N's sentence to give a bit more info, and not be disparaging of the current tests.  Nyarlathotep 16:37, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

On a seperate note, do you really need all those sources? I like having lots of links too, so I understand where your comming from, but its maybe best to put some in an external links section. Nyarlathotep 16:37, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * And yet niether of you have given a single actionable objection. Jason Safoutin 16:41, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Jason, the actionable objection is that the news is about a substance and a test. But you presented the news as if Ricin is definitely the substance in question. The actionable thing to do here is to add the possibility that the test could be wrong. Here is a link to numerous reports of the non-100% certainty of such a test; since you keep reverting my edits; perhaps you can pick out the appropriate source. Please note, the London false test result is not the only such report; the report of ricin at the US Senate was also questionable Neutralizer 17:40, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

need another contributor
I'm guessing Amgine will unlock this article soonish, so I'd like to point out that, I'm about to disapear off to Paris for several days, and Neutralizer isn't allowed to remove Jason's missinformation tag, as that would be another revert for him. So the article needs another contributor if its to be handled as breaking news today. Otherwise it'll have to wait for a bit. Nyarlathotep 17:47, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

 * From REUTERS: "This is not associated with any threats against the campus" in Austin, Texas, Rhonda Weldon said.

According to live TV: "CDC: ricin is not naturally occurring, and if ricin, it was intentionally placed." Jason Safoutin 20:03, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Ricin: Although one seed contains enough ricin to kill an adult human, they may pass harmlessly through the digestive system if swallowed whole. [2]. Typically 2.5–20 raw seeds can kill an adult human...
 * Ricin is easily purified from castor-oil manufacturing waste. The seed-pulp left over from pressing for castor oil contains on average about 5% by weight of ricin. Since 0.2 mg of purified Ricin constitutes a fatal dose, this is a considerable amount of ricin.
 * ''The process for creating ricin is well-known, in part because a patent was granted for it in 1952. ... "Preparation of Toxic Ricin", assigned to the U.S. Secretary of the Army ... The patent was removed from the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) database sometime in 2004, but is still available online through international patent databases.
 * The article above must clearly not have quoted the CDC correctly. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 21:02, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

NPOV question
The NPOV tag has been restored after being removed without consensus.

In its current state, are there still NPOV concerns regarding this article? -  Amgine | talk en.WN 17:46, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Someone should descide if N's related news link, which I reinserted, but kept commented out, should be included. N can't due this himself, due to being at his revert limit.  I think the London issue is currently covered in the article, which is good.  Nyarlathotep 17:49, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it's NPOV anymore but there are spelling mistakes and I definitely think there should be the related news link to the US Senate false alarm. Neutralizer 18:02, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

CNN now announcing that 2 out of 3 tests report NEGATIVE
I am a bit annoyed at the rush to support nonsensical allegations thrown out by every terrorist stopper wantabe that has a badge. OBVIOUSLY it would make no sense to a thinking person that anyone would be interested in dropping ricin into a Univeristy.... but then again; only one out of 200 have been educated to actually think in the USA, according to this wikipedia article; which I agree with. Neutralizer 21:20, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I have long thought that a dormitory at a large university would be a prime target for groups wishing to attack the US... Security is lax, generally, young people (who tug at heart-strings), and large numbers of people. Scary stuff... --Chiacomo (talk) 21:29, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * What would be the objective? Are our enemies so stupid as to target everybody's loved ones..students? That would be a PR disaster.I don't think so. Neutralizer 21:33, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Anyway, I expect you, Chiacomo, to publish a lead article saying this was another pile of media bullshit...if it turns out to be such a thing. Neutralizer 21:35, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * If you wish to create "terror", I can't imagine anything more terrifying to a parent than to attack his or her child. I can imagine a public outcry at the government for not protecting our children... I'm not certain that the individuals commonly called "terrorists" have public relations personnel on staff. --Chiacomo (talk) 21:36, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Great point; who is it that benefits from "terror"??? Would Bush be in power today if it were not for "terror"? Would oil have gone from $15. to $62 per barrell since Sep. 10,2001 if not for terror????? who benefits from high oil prices????? does bin Laden? or do the Texas and Saudi oilmen?...you tell me who benefits from "terror" in 2006. Neutralizer 21:44, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe a stupid student liked to try some "recipe" of this substanse that are available on teh intrawebz? International 22:04, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * lol. this is likely the source of the likely hoax. Definitely not lead story material,imo. Neutralizer 22:07, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

AP now reporting "More tests needed"
That's the problem with rushing to report these hysterical "scares" coming out of the USA as if they are factual....they are usually exagerated, false or outright hoaxes. Neutralizer 02:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Live also: "Ricin is not naturally occurring. If this is ricin, it was intentionally placed." Jason Safoutin 02:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

 * DragonFire, please read Ricin. Please. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 02:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I am reading everything everywhere. Although I am not saying i disagree with you, I am stating what current reports say. I also see that state tests were nagative. Thiats fine. Thats whats happening now ans is factual as of this moment, and should be in the article. Previous assumptions of a false test could not be uased as the reuslts of currents tests were not known at the time. Jason Safoutin 02:11, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It wasn't an assumption of a false test. It was reporting there had been previous events of false positives. A reasonable element of a news article. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 02:14, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * At the time. I just do not see the reason for the addition at that time. IMO. That was not a fact of this situation at the time. Jason Safoutin 02:18, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Think of it as a "Same-day Pregnancy Test" being done by Norwegian Royal Princess the day of the wedding. Sure, it may say she's pregnant, but it's reasonable to report that the test has a number of false positives. Not reporting that would be foolish, in fact. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 02:22, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I am listeing, but no one seems to understand that speculation is not our job. Its like sayiny "Iran statred uranium inrichment again....and they might bomb someone. Or might have a nuclear bobmb. Don't worry...I will not edit the article anymore. I like to rpoet on what is known as a fact as it happens. Not specualte on something that could or could not be true. Jason Safoutin 02:25, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Saying a test, which is known to return false positives, is correct in any given case is a form of speculation. There is an entire branch of instrument study which is focused on making sure tests like these only fail positively, rather than negatively, because it is unacceptable to have a negative failure. I tried to point this out to you earlier. The test is supposed to be inaccurate. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 02:32, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Last I heard, tests were not made or designed, in this nature, to purposely/intentionally give a false positve. IMO thats just a conspiracy theory. I do not see this test only being made for the reults to be purposely wrong. Now thats a big assumption. Jason Safoutin 02:36, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

2 days later...
they still don't know what it is. Maybe they know whether or not it is ricen by now. Here's a 2-hour old story at the time of this posting: -Edbrown05 06:46, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

More reporting that show moderation in this case: International 12:35, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Ricin found in University of Texas dormitory
This was our lead story headline. There was never any reason we should have phrased the event in such a factual way; not even at that time. Fortunately our collaborative process worked,imo, and the article did not stay lead very long. One thing that might be changed for the future is the way the "disruption" word was thrown out by the author during the discourse; the use of that word on article talk pages happens too often and is extremely destructive to the collaborative process, I think, as it is used as a blocking threat to push through the threatener's version of the article. I hope that will stop entirely..if someone wants to warn someone they are becoming disruptive, that should happen on a user's talk page ; not on an article talk page, I believe. Neutralizer 12:38, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It was on your talk page. But you moved it here. Not my fault you did that. Jason Safoutin 12:43, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Not so, Jason, please check the history, you put it here. Neutralizer 12:48, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

 * This article was published too quickly, and was too definitive when all the current listed sources are derived from a single AP report.
 * As to the inclusion of the previous ricin stories, it would have been fair to do so as until that time the general public was completely unaware of the stuff. You do have to be neutral in the way you present that though. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:52, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Really Neutralizer? Section: Ricin, I have moved this discussion to the talk page. Neutralizer 14:11, 25 February 2006 (UTC) Check your talk page. Its still there. Jason Safoutin 12:55, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Jason, please read the edits ; what was moved is not your edit where you made the disruption chategorization...you put that on the article talk page yourself. If you need assistance understanding how to check edit history, please get back to me on my talk page as I used to have trouble with that myself. Neutralizer 13:10, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Regardless, I am through. I am no longer interested in this article. I obviously have no support, so I am moving on. Do what you like here. You will see no more collaboration from me on this article. My concerns were never consideredand and IMO nearly completely ignored. Jason Safoutin 13:21, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

If no one is going to develop this, it will be published.
Stop stalling and get something done, this should have been published by now. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 16:47, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * MrM. Do you think it's in a publishable state? It's simply not up to Wikinews' standards in any way. If you unprotect it, please put a Reason tag on it for me as I think as it's full of format,content and spelling problems; at least that's my opinion; also, have you read the " 2 days later " info above? Neutralizer 17:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Please propose edits, title change, revisions to sources &c. You could start with a rewording of the comment on prior ricin news events.  Eg, Ricin first became publicised in MonthFoo, 20xx with claims of <whatever>.  In MonthBar, 20xx, with considerably less international coverage, the initial positive result in London was confirmed to have been a false alarm when subsequent tests turned out negative. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:12, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Why the clamour to report a possible hoax to the world?
I truly do not understand? This so called "story" is collapsing by the hour;..best we not be a part of this hysterical "scare",I say. Neutralizer 21:41, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * If article dont work out then it stays unpublished. Still it may be a news about a hoax but thats to early to say, more of terrorhysteria if that can be called a news... International 21:49, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

New title suggestion
Analyses of substance found in University of Texas dormitory continue. International 21:43, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Or "No ricin found in UT student" could be the title? maybe? Neutralizer 22:10, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * You are free to abandon it and start a new article on the scare prompted by one report on a false positive. However, if you choose to do that then be as restrained as you can.  Let the blogs massacre AP for being sensationalist. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:15, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

A fair warning to all contributors to this article
The actions taken by some here that have delayed this article from being published without any actionable objections are considered disruptive. Please get this article published within 24 hours of this timestamp, or users may be blocked for their edits. News is time-sensitive. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 22:18, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm glad you heeded my warnings. Now, don't you think it's sad for an ACCREDITED (dear lord, that's dangerous!) Wikinews (gasp!) Administrator (*faint*) that HAS to point out the idiocy that has been enacted by some users on this talk page?  Don't you think it's a little ridiculous that some users can't take RESPONSIBILITY for their own actions, and instead choose to blame whatever they do on other users?  Don't you think it's ridiculous that you let this topic waste for days without even providing reasoning?  Don't you think it should have been published already?  Don't you think it's long past it's time?  Don't you think contributors here could have been focusing their efforts other places and achieved more?  Don't you think you should heed the warnings of other users?  Don't you wish that I would have blocked you in this case, to further your popularity against the "mean" admin?  Don't you think this is getting out of hand?  Stop doing this.  You've heard this warning.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 22:37, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * MrM, This was a bad article from it's inception...rushed and poorly sourced.I won't get involved in a personal discussion as I don't see this as personal at all. You are an administrator who threatened to block the editors of this story if we didn't publish it within 24 hours. I published it so I would not get blocked and I alerted the admins to what seems to me to be inappropriate behaviour by yourself....but there is nothing I can do about it, so I am moving forward. All the best. Neutralizer 23:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * No, you are going to finish this article first. You have repeatedly delayed this article, now you owe it to the community to see that this article be published.  I'm giving you 24 hours.  Get it done, your behavior has been inexcusable on the so-called "development" of this article - never, never do we let articles just linger for days upon end.  Get it published.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 23:07, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * MrM. I published it Brian put it back to develop  Neutralizer 23:14, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Then maybe you shouldn't give up. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 23:18, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The article should be deleted; I concurr with Brian on that. Neutralizer 23:27, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Alright, forget it. You should be ashamed of yourself for decieving the community into thinking this article would ever see the light of day in publish mode, and you have abandoned it, being the sole reason why it isn't published at this time. You are an irresponsible, illogical troll. You've just destroyed Wikinews a little by doing this. You should be ashamed of yourself - and if you aren't, you have some extreme moral issues. You are never going to be considered a contributor to this wiki if you continue this behavior - and I refuse to recognize you as one until that day comes when you stop doing that. Wikinews doesn't need your pitty moves. And no, it shouldn't be deleted. It should be held in responisbility of Neutralizer, who has yet to even disclose a single actionable objection for keeping this from publish for days on end. This is stupid, and deleting this only proves that a small group of contributors can control the content of this wiki because of their disruptive actions and the refusal to communicate with the community. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 23:31, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * MrM; I don't think your methods work anymore; at least not on Wikinews; I'd invite you to try some other platform. Neutralizer 23:35, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * If that's the case, than I have no problem with telling you to join Indymedia, and get the hell out of here - you are no longer welcome. --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 23:42, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

No worries, they'll cool down eventually. Its in the right basic form now to cover what is actually true. Nyarlathotep 23:42, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Publish?
Can this be published yet? Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 23:46, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm done with it. good night.  Nyarlathotep 23:47, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the new and more accurate article is ready for publishing now; so let's get this done. Neutralizer 00:46, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

The last word about this article
At least MY last word;
 * MrM; are you ok?

1;Weren't you the first person to use these boxes;e.g.? You certainly use them the most; even twice in this article's talk page.

2.If you thought this story's development was so important, where were you the last 2 days?

3.This story when first published was not just questioned by me; have you even looked at Amgine's edits on the talk page?

4.Did you want this to remain our lead article? Why?

Your behaviour has been getting ruder and ruder toward everyone; look at how you yelled at BrianMc when he was trying to fix this article as you demanded and also this.

Anyway, I won't be responding to your personal attacks at all, I really hope you can get better and I'm not kidding.

and finally, I did get the box idea from you,MrM;imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I'm told;
 * I believe that's more than one final message, Neutralizer. But, based on hindsight, this is expected from you, as you have never fulfilled any of your promises - never to other users, to this wiki, or even promises self-set by yourself.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 21:05, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

yee gads,
... it would have been so easy if this story didn't get off to a rocky start. I think this ranks as the worst published story I've ever read here. I'm tagging it. I don't care for the article content, it makes no sense. The politics, that's inside stuff. -Edbrown05 06:08, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Jason Safoutin 12:40, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * No I'm not tagging it for 'deletion', after re-reading it. I'm beginning to dislike 'talk pages' though. -Edbrown05 06:15, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Apparently no one understands that a breaking story can be changed if published as the breaking template says. When the article was published, it was published according to the reports available at that time. No one bothered to change anything or even rename the article. Instead, they decided to enter misleading info that was in no way at all related to what was being reported at the time. Not only was misleading info added at the time of publish, severe POV was added . At the time that this edit was made, there was absolutely no sources anywhere that stated a false positive, in this situation, nor did anyone try to find a source saying it was, that was related to this story. Instead the Washington Post source that was added in the same edit, was not related to this article whatsoever, at the time of reports. Therefore that is misleading and a POV of the user who added it. We are not to report what might be the case or what could be the case. Instead we must report the facts at the time they are known. And I will go again to say this: "Look at the sources. They're attributed in the story. You cannot write whatever you want to write here; we stick to facts, not theories or conspiracies. (MrMiscellanious in talk page of U.S. airstrike targeting Ayman al-Zawahiri leaves 18 dead in Pakistani village)"
 * We have to valuate sources and the fact in them. Big problem for a journalist who dont. Neutralizer saved Wikinews ass this time. Some wikinewsies have something good to learn from him. International 13:29, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Look at the edit history. At the time of the reports the test was positive. Every major agency said that. That was the fact at that time. That was the report, like it or not. And during that time period, adding any information to suggest that the test was a "false positive" as Neutralizer said, was misleading and incorrect, again at that time. Jason Safoutin 13:33, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I have followed this story from the begining with interest. I also tried to follow your argumentation but its not easy to understand. International 13:50, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * No, he hit the nail on the head. At the time of the story, that was the fact.  We don't make our own stories, and we don't delay it just because it may be wrong in the future.  We don't need to save Wikinews' ass, we attribute everything to its source.  Neutralizer didn't save Wikinews, he destroyed it by substituting a theory with what was known as fact at that point.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 20:55, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I dont understand how using ones brain and putting in background information about how the "ricintest" is prone to show false positive result, as a way to avoid posibly deadly mistakes if the other way around happens, isnt a FACT. International 21:05, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

 * As I said, at the time the reports were happening the fact at the time was, the test was positive. Adding ANY information to suggest that the test was wrong. AT THE TIME, was misleading. Period. Any reporter would know that and in fact every report and source ATH THE TIME said the test was positive whether you like it or not. Jason Safoutin 21:13, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Am I interpreting you right that you dont take any concideration to background fact in articles and will continue to revert otherwikinewsies contributions with bakgroundfacts in "your" articles? International 21:24, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Why? Because it's not a FACT that false-positives are always prevelent in every case.  Sure, it's OK to state, "in the past, false-positives have been shown..." - but never state something unless it is fact, and you can back it up with attribution.  --MrMiscellanious (talk) – 21:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

 * What is wrong with moderation when things are not sure, in initial stage of a story. Why make an article unnessesary speculative like many other newsagensys that unlike us must earn money by attract readers with sensationalism. Nothing for us. International 21:30, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I encourage Jason and MrM to go back and read Amgine's edits on this talk page; those edits are enlightening,succinct and say it all,imo. Neutralizer 21:43, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, good advice. Now I stop flogging the dead horse. International 21:51, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Yeah I forgot...you guys are always right. Jason Safoutin 22:06, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


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I've deleted the articles and blocked you for 30 minutes for recreating them repeatedly. Please realize that we are a news site. You need to be posting actual news and at least trying to keep it neutral. If you'd like to write a story about the GMC issue, I suggest that you look around the site a bit and see how its usualy done. Or maybe log into #wikinews on IRC and chat with people there (but looking around the site should be enough really). Nyarlathotep 17:10, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

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Riots cease in Dublin against Unionist march

February 25, 2006 have regained control in Dublin, Ireland following riots in which a counter-demonstration against  marches in the city descended into violence that engulfed the city centre. Shops on some of Dublin's major thoroughfares including, and  were closed as the Garda Riot Squad moved in from , and hundreds of shoppers were caught up in the disturbance.

40 protesters have been arrested, and 14 people have been hospitalised, including main correspondent, and six gardaí. 13 of the arrested will be dealt with tonight during a special sitting of Dublin District Court.

The riots, which have been described as the worst that Dublin has seen in a quarter of a century, broke out at 12.45 pm. About 1,000 Loyalist protestors, including members of the, had travelled from Northern Ireland in order to march from Parnell Street down to (the seat of the ) on Kildare Street.

The march never got underway, however; the protesters were transported to the location by bus following a consultation with gardaí that suggested a march would be unsafe. The march was intended to commemorate victims of Republican paramilitary activity.

Loyalist protesters proceeded to demonstrate outside Leinster House for a short time, but the parade was cancelled as around 300 Republican protestors from across Ireland moved onto Kildare Street. Gardaí ordered major premises to shut as the violence increased. Missiles, fireworks, petrol bombs, and rubble and tools from a building site on O'Connell Street were thrown by Republican protestors onto gardaí. As the rioting proceeded, looting broke out, the Loyalist protesters were advised to leave the region, and cars were burned out between Kildare Street and O'Connell Street.

Political figures, led by, and including leaders of major political parties from across Ireland's political spectrum such as , , the , the Irish ,  and the  have condemned the violence. has commented that "It is the essence of Irish democracy and republicanism that people are allowed to express their views freely and in a peaceful manner. People who want only to attack gardaí and property have no respect for their fellow citizens."

politicians due to participate in the rally, including   and  deputy leader, have issued a complaint to the  , who has admitted that An Garda Síochána were not expecting the level of hostility that was realised. Mr McDowell has also commented that the riots were perpetrated by people who did not understand what Irish republicanism means and who have damaged the cause of Irish unity that they purported to support.

, a party which split from the main body of Sinn Féin in 1986 and which had been involved in the organisation of the counter-demonstration, have declared that it was irresponsible for the authorities to allow the marches to go ahead. It is believed that around €50,000 will be necessary to clear up and repair the damage caused to O'Connell Street, Dublin's main thoroughfare, and the street will remain closed until tomorrow. It is feared that the riots will have a significant impact on the, and on plans by the Irish government to recommence annual commemorations of the 1916.


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Dublin unionist march turns violent

February 25, 2006 A Unionist march in central Dublin, Ireland turned violent after republican protesters tried to disrupt the parade. So far, several Garda Síochána police officers and a journalist have been injured. Due to the violence, the march has been called off.

Hundreds of republican protesters turned out to oppose the "Love Ulster" march organized by the victim's group Fair. Democratic Unionist and Ulster Unionist politicians were planning to take part in the march. The march was to highlight the deaths of Protestants in Northern Ireland by Irish nationalists. A delegation was also to meet the Justice Minister, Michael McDowell, after the march.

A counter-protest was organised by Republican Sinn Fein, a political party that is believed to be linked to the Continuity Irish Republican Army and which split away from Sinn Fein in the 1980s, just as the Continuity IRA split away from the Provisional IRA. Sinn Fein stated they had no involvement in the violence. Counterprotesters threw bottles, fireworks and many different objects at riot police.

However, an on-looker stated "They have no right to be coming down here and rubbing our noses in it." He added that many Catholics also suffered during the conflict known as the The Troubles. Kelly Ann Moore, 20, a republican protester said "Loyalist protesters knew what was going to happen if they tried to do this. They were trying to provoke this violence."

The Troubles is an ongoing conflict that stems from the partition of Ireland in the 1920s into two entities, the Irish Free State and Northern Ireland. The Irish Free State eventually became the Republic of Ireland, an independent nation, while Northern Ireland became a constituent part of the United Kingdom. The conflict is split into two camps, the nationalists or republicans which advocate a united, single Ireland and the unionists or loyalists which advocate a continued union with the United Kingdom. The conflict also boils down into religious divides as unionists are generally Protestant and nationalists are usually Catholic.

Taoiseach (Prime Minister) Bertie Ahern condemned the violence and stated "There is no excuse for it and that it is the essence of Irish democracy and republicanism that people are allowed express their views freely and in a peaceful manner."

Other politicians condemned the violence too. Sean Crowe, Sinn Fein TD for Dublin South West said the rioting was "disgraceful" but included that the unionist rally had been "provocative".

Alban Maginness of the Social Democratic & Labour Party stated "It is disturbing that marchers have been prevented from peaceful demonstration. This action of extreme republicans simply plays into hands of those of the unionist right who cannot conceive unionist rights being upheld in a new Ireland."

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Venezuela's government to restrict flights to the US

February 28, 2006

The U.S. Department of State says that the Venezuelan government's measure to restrict flights to the United States violates the agreement of 1953.

In a press release the Venezuelan Institute for Aviation (Inac) announced the decision to "reduce" starting on March 1st all operations of American airlines in Venezuela.

Later, the official Institution ordered Delta and Continental Airlines the suspension of all of its activities in Venezuelan territory. It also ordered American Airlines to reduce the frequency of its flights to and from the United States.

Venezuela argues that the American Aviation Services does not respect the terms of the agreement between both countries that allows the operations of US-based companies and vice versa.


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