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Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Killing Vector

For my next administrator nomination, I would like to present user:Killing Vector. He's been here for several months, and during that time has written many outstanding articles, become an accredited reporter, and racked up close to a thousand edits. I think Vector would help the project well with the extra bits. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Questions & comments

 * Do you accept this nomination? Tempodivalse [talk]  14:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, why not? I'm honored that given my few months of activity I'm being nominated. Full disclosure: I am active in some non-mainstream political movements. I think I've been good at writing objectively while still writing about what interests me so far. I think I have a good handle on when to be involved and when to write, as well. --Killing Vector (talk) 14:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * A brief random sampling of your edits show no problems to me. Calebrw (talk) 20:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * How do you explain this edit, which was done without consensus? (Perhaps ironic that I would ask a consensus question.) However, I have no problem with the edit's content as it makes perfect sense to avoid the use of the Indian numbering system. Calebrw (talk) 20:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It's something that should have been there, I had a general sense that there was consensus (informal discussions on IRC backed this up), and it was relevant to an article I was editing at the time. Furthermore, the use of "crore" is intrinsically ambiguous (it means different things in Iran and India) and we had no explicit position in our style guide; it is better to have a consistent position which can be discussed than to have no position. Short answer: we had no position, we needed one, the discussion on WP about how they arrived at theirs was useless, so I established one. --Killing Vector (talk) 22:34, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * What do you hope to achieve as an admin that you would not normally be able to do so as a user/accredited reporter/reviewer? Calebrw (talk) 20:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Cleanup. I already spend a lot of time going "that's an editorial" or "that's stale" or "that's not in the right place"; I'd be able to fully accomplish maintenance tasks rather than poking admins to do them. --Killing Vector (talk) 22:34, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * as nom. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Always admin-ey things needing doing, user has my trust to be responsible with the tools. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:07, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * due to the run ins I've had with this user. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 16:27, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * What run-ins? Could you be a little more specific? Tempodivalse [talk]  18:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 19:21, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * . good contributor. As a minor point- I think the user (actually both parties) could of had a more cool approach to the debate over Wikizine - Year: 2009 Week: 7-22 Number: 106 however no one is perfect. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:57, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * , great interactions and knows policy. Mike Halterman (talk) 01:01, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * seems fine and I really don't see anything wrong over the Wikizine thing. A little matter of fact but not rude. Computerjoe (talk) 21:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I have had no problems. --SVTCobra 00:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Seems quite thoughtful with answers and doesn't demonstrate any problems. Calebrw (talk) 15:59, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Trustworthy and capable user Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I checked through some edits and I have no doubt that extra permissions would help this newsie a lot. (→ Zachary ) 08:03, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Removal/Tempodivalse (admin re-confirmation)

I would like to see if I am still trusted and supported by the community as an administrator. I feel I've made some dumb decisions lately, such as unblocking a user who was harassing others in his unblock request, giving editor status to a user without consensus, etc. Thus, I am placing myself here, for reconfirmation. Tempodivalse [talk]  18:31, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments

 * Have you considered logging into IRC more regularly? There are usually other admins about who can give a second opinion and help with decision making. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hm, good idea. Perhaps I'll consider doing that if I'm in doubt about what to do when making a decision. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * , user recognizes mistakes quickly when they occur and deals with them professionally. Cirt (talk) 19:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * - Pobody's Nerfect - You have had plus points added to your standing in my mind by nominating yourself here - you recognise your mistakes and want to get better. -- Sken   my talk 20:36, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Seriously. You've got to fuck up purdy badly.  I mean look at me, I'm still a sysop!  You're fine.  Now get back to work bitches! -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 20:40, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:02, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Admitting errors is the first step to avoiding repeating them. While a minor distraction I think more people should put themselves up for reconfirmation where they've made mistakes. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:47, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Fantastic editor who seems to contribute lots to the project. Everyone makes a couple of mistakes. Computerjoe (talk) 23:37, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * --SVTCobra 02:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

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Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Calebrw

I'm nominating Calebrw for adminship. We don't really have a serious need for administrators, but an extra one would never hurt. I've had several interactions with Calebrw, all of them positive. According to the edit counter, he has over 1100 edits and has been registered with Wikinews for close to a year now. He's made some excellent articles during his time here and is a good reviewer. I'm sure he will do well in the added capacity of a sysop. Tempodivalse [talk]  19:09, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Questions/comments

 * Do you accept the nomination? Tempodivalse [talk]  19:09, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I do. Thanks for confidence. Calebrw (talk) 19:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

 * If you successfully become an Admin, will you help out with admin tasks such as archiving articles older than seven days, proposed deletions and closing deletion discussions? Cirt (talk) 02:53, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes I will. As I told, I try to be as active on WN (and WP) as much as can. I don't always have internet access, but when I do WN is one of the first sites I go to. Being an admin means using the tools afforded responsibly, but it also mean taking your obligations seriously, for instance taking a look at WN:ALERT, as well as the links you mentioned above. Calebrw (talk) 19:23, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

 * Will you add yourself to the admins open to recall? --Brian McNeil / talk 07:46, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I will, though I'm not exactly sure how to do it. I assume it is adding Category:Admins open to recall to your user page. Calebrw (talk) 19:23, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

 * Twitter. Identica. Or Neither. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 16:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't quite understand, and I have no idea what Identica is, though I now see it is similiar to Twitter. I do have a twitter account, but only use to follow a few select things. I'm not one to check it daily or post a whole bunch of status updates. Does this answer your question/comment Calebrw (talk) 03:09, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

 * Can you wait with your editprotected requests until your adminship is confirmed (it looks like a landslide)? Tempo is trying to keep up, but if you can do it yourself it really cuts the work to less than half. --SVTCobra 00:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. I am all done now. I responded to you on your talk page as well, but the short of it was I wanted to have all the articles that needed to be tied into ManUtd known, so that I didn't have to make a ton of really complicated requests now. Thanks to Tempo for helping out. Calebrw (talk) 01:05, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * as nominator. Tempodivalse [talk]  19:09, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Cirt (talk) 19:31, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I see no issues with this user. Computerjoe (talk) 23:36, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:45, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * --SVTCobra 02:00, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * So... Good 'nuff -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 03:15, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


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Don't post photos on minors on the internet, or elsewhere, without legal permission. —178.30.47.41 (talk) 19:11, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * There's no permission required. I can go anywhere and take a photo and even if it has a minor in it, I can post it to the Internet. — Mike moral  ♪♫  19:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)


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Yeah because NO innocents died in the pearl harbor bombing, right? Because practically instantly ending a war is bad? A war that would have continued, practically non-stop.


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Talk:US Defense Secretary announces cuts in Pentagon programs

Original research
I watched the conference live on CNN's web feed. Quotes dumped to IRC channel, Amgine can confirm. --Killing Vector (talk) 19:34, 9 August 2010 (UTC)


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US Defense Secretary announces cuts in Pentagon programs

August 9, 2010 , the of the United States, has announced wide-ranging cuts in  programs. In a press conference at 3pm today, Gates said that, effective immediately, a number of top-line programs would be ending.

Ten per cent of the military intelligence budget is one of the lead items to be cut, said Gates, noting the huge increase in military intelligence money since. Meanwhile, "we're looking at cutting a third of the budget for services and support contracting over the next three years", Gates noted, saying that had proved inefficient compared to. Gates also proposed elimination of the, saying that while the command's function was important, it did not require a and 2,800 staff to operate.

The proposed cuts would particularly impact the economy of the Commonwealth of Virginia, whose northern counties employ large numbers of defense contractors and employees. Gates said, though, that some of the money saved from program cuts might go to increased shipbuilding, noting "we probably need more money for shipbuilding", and that an expanded shipbuilding program would create jobs at shipyards in Norfolk, Virginia, with Virginia potentially gaining more jobs than it lost.

Gates did not announce new cuts in military hardware programs, but stated "any bill that takes the alternate engine to to the president, I am confident will be vetoed", referring to a proposed 485 million program for the aircraft.

"This agenda is not about cutting the department's budget. It is about reforming and reshaping priorities" said Gates, who cast the cuts as efficiency savings. "I am determined to change the way this department has done business for a long time." He also said the cuts were pre-emptive, to stave off deeper cuts mandated by : "My fear is that in tough times, people will see the defense budget as a place to solve the nation's economic problems."

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Thread:Comments:Pressure mounts against Florida church plans to burn Qur'an/Ironic

What kills me is the name of the church: Dove. World. Outreach. Really? The Dove: a traditional symbol of peace. World: as in, seeing outside of your own backyard. Outreach: as in, NOT burning the sacred objects of someone else's faith. These guys got it all wrong.


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Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Mike Halterman

I have been active on Wikinews since September 2007. I have been accredited since early 2008 and have interviewed 10 different entertainment personalities since then. I've reviewed many articles since then and I have also archived old successful and unsuccessful administrative requests. I believe I have spent enough time here that I would be very useful in performing administrative duties. Before, I was afraid I wouldn't be able to perform such actions all the time, but I am quite active now and I think I can handle it. I'm nominating myself for adminship. Please consider. Thank you! :) Mike Halterman (talk) 08:43, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Questions

 * What is your take on the "Life the Universe and Everything" question?--Brian McNeil / talk 10:49, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't do that dorky crap. I do soap operas. But, if I must, 42, and blah blah blah.... Mike Halterman (talk) 20:21, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * /me makes Mike sit through the entire series of HHGTTG - in a dressing gown. --Brian McNeil / talk 05:56, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * Absolutely support. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:42, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * (I'm surprised you aren't one already) Bawolff ☺☻ 11:17, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * tempo di valse  14:02, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Cirt (talk) 14:45, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * diva Cary Bass (talk) 20:20, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 20:34, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * red  - thunder  .  20:35, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Like Bawolff, I thought you were already one. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 23:19, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * SUPER I thought you were one already! Anyways, I'm 100% for this! <3 Mike. --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 17:02, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * --SVTCobra 23:01, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Van der Hoorn

I am nominating Van der Hoorn for adminship. He hasn't yet reached the two-month minimum recommended for an admin, but I think he already understands local policy well enough to be a sysop. Plus, he frequently works on editprotected requests and speedy deletes, which would be much easier if he had the bits. ♪ Tempo di valse ♪  23:33, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Questions
Do you accept the nomination? ♪ Tempo di valse ♪  23:33, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I do. :) I have been working primarily on copy-editing and cleaning up issues from the maintenance reports on the Special:SpecialPages (especially Templates and Categories, because those are often not fully protected). There is still a lot of work to be done and being able to change fully protected pages would really increase productivity. I also noticed older articles are often missing appropriate internal links (to countries, etc.) and broken source links (often just moved on the original source site), which would be something I aim for in fixing. Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk) 23:40, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Considering the area of work you are interested in, are you familiar with Archive conventions? (I'm asking because some people have concerns if you are familiar or not with our policies, and that is probably one of the most relevant policy to you, if you are copyediting stuff, especially older articles) Bawolff ☺☻ 05:28, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry for this late response; I previously overlooked your question. :) I am aware that the content of articles should not be edited, although typo fixes + some punctuation changes are allowed. Sources should only be changed if the original source has moved (i.e. a different URL), but otherwise not. The "general idea" of the policy is of course that the article was news 'then' and thus should reflect the information that was available at that time, although there may be more insights now. Also, other news sources may have based their articles on ours. In other words: Wikinews is not an encyclopedia. I hope this answers your question?
 * One question about this policy though: is it allowed to add a link to Wikipedia on the same subject? Often Wikipedia has also an article on the same news subject (and those articles often get written later than we publish the news article).
 * Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk) 17:41, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Adding wikipediapar links to Wikipedia is generally permitted, as far as I know -- anything that doesn't alter the content of the page should be okay. tempo di valse  18:00, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments

 * Maybe it's not wise to respond to some of the criticisms written below at the Votes section, but I cannot help myself. :)
 * My experience is indeed not in writing and reviewing articles, I fully agree and I can already tell you that this will probably not change. I found out I'm not a very good writer and reviewing articles is not what I'm interested in. This may be disappointing to some, but I think you have to do what you're good at. I would like to do some interviews on the next European elections, but then the content is written by or spoken by the person who is interviewed, thus not much creativity needed there (except for the questions, of course).
 * I'm not sure what falls under copy-editing, but I try to walk through every article that makes it to the front page and fix what I see (typos, lacking categories, often missing links or links that link to Wikipedia instead of Wikinews, punctuation, adding Category:Conversion templates, etc.). Unfortunately, most older articles are fully protected, so often copy-editing is impossible. I cannot add appropriate categories, fix typos and add links, thus the best I can do is to add the stuff to the talk page, but it takes quite some time to write a heading + editprotected + typo + typofix + explain sometimes why, which is quite frustrating. I have also copy-edited many typos in templates, but I often just say "Added a category" in the Summary box; it really takes too much time mentioning all the details of the edit.
 * I am seriously wondering what policies and/or procedures I am not familiar with. I went through quite some Help pages fixing typos and links and often read parts of the pages that seemed interesting and different from Wikipedia. If someone could point me to some policies and/or procedures that they find (very) important and think I missed, that would be really appreciated.
 * I'm currently going through all the maintenance reports on Special:SpecialPages, but alas I can only edit the Categories, Files and Templates. I also created some templates to help editors do their job, e.g. copied and modified the Category:Conversion templates from Wikipedia and created Template:Translated quote. I also rediscovered Template:Sic, which seems a really nice way in improving the inconsistencies currently used in articles in using sic. (I have seen: [sic], [sic], [sic], (sic), [SIC]). Unfortunately, older articles are fully protected and thus not editable.
 * So finally, I'm not expecting anyone to change their vote. I respect everyone's decision and opinion, but I just wanted to let you know mine. I'm good at fixing and sorting things, but not so much at writing things. :) If there would be a way to edit fully protected pages without becoming an admin, then I would have no problem going for that option, but I am not aware of one. If someone does, please do tell. Thanks for all your comments. Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk) 00:14, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with him. The length of time one has been on the project is not always a reflection of the amount of knowledge of policy one has. Some users have been on the project for many months, and still don't fully understand the policy. I can tell that Van der Hoorn knows policy well due to his many commentaries in different discussions project-wide, which also demonstrate that he is civil and has good judgement. Also, nothing done by an admin is irreversible, and any mistakes he might make as a sysop can easily be undone. I would be glad to coach him in some of the administrative areas he is less experienced in, such as blocking/vandalism removal. The most important things when considering an RfA, in my mind, are trust and civility, and that is certainly not an issue here. I would also like to add, in response to some of the neutrals/opposes, that some of our best administrators rarely, if ever, write or review articles. That is certainly a plus for an admin candidate, but it is by no means a prerequisite. ♪ Tempo di valse ♪  00:29, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

 * - It has been well over 7 days since this RfA started. Cirt (talk) 22:32, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Update: I left notes on the talk pages of three bureaucrats that are 1) semi-sorta-active, and 2) have not commented in this RfA. Cirt (talk) 22:37, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * as nom. ♪ Tempo di valse ♪  23:33, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * - Been on the project less than a month and a half - first edit was 20 February 2009. So far as I can tell, no significant experience writing articles, nor reviewing articles - and also doesn't seem to have done much copyediting either. Edits are helpful - but I am sorry I think a bit more experience is needed in areas integral to the project. Would be a good step to consider writing and reviewing articles. Cirt (talk) 03:20, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * - I can't oppose the RfA as the user has been extremely helpful to the project in the month and a half he has been here, but I can't help but shake the feeling that he doesn't have enough experience of our policies and procedures. Article writing isn't everyone's thing, and that shouldn't be a necessity for adminship, but keep up the current work and get involved wherever you can, and I see adminship coming your way sooner rather than later. -- Sken   my talk 10:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * - user will be able to use the tools effectively to do the jobs that they wish to do - whether or not that be article writing. -- Sken   my talk 07:04, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You have been a great help here, but you do need some more understanding of policy through more experience. red  - thunder  .  11:51, 5 April 2009 (UTC)  per Tempo. red  - thunder   .  00:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * torn between and . User is a good contributor who is working diligently, and generally trying to improve the project. However, has not been seriously involved in content generation/validation. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:03, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * user has a demonstrated need for the "bits". However, if others are concerned about the level of content contributions, then perhaps it can be granted without Editor status. This is unusual, of course, as traditionally Admins are also Editors. --SVTCobra 00:42, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * . As per Skenmy. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 19:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * - has been doing good things. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * - After reading all of the above and taking some time to think it over, and as per Skenmy. Cirt (talk) 03:16, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * — As I said in Tempo's RfA, this will cut down on the number of editprotected requests, so it's a good thing. Since he needs to make a lot of edits to achieved articles (fixing spelling errors and such), I'd say this is warrented. Gopher65talk 04:30, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


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Thread:Comments:Western Australian court to set precedent on the burqa/A cultural issue going to far/reply

When a government attempts to arbitrarily impose the social norms of the dominant culture against the will of a culturally distinct minority, it has gone too far. In a truly free country people should be allowed to choose what to wear in a courtroom and practice their religion without fear of persecution.


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Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Bureaucrat/Bawolff

Nominating Bawolff for the 'crat position. We don't really need more bureaucrats, but I think another one couldn't possibly hurt. I think he's the most qualified admin for the position, having been around longer than many of us (started editing in 2005), and would in general make a good addition to the bureaucrat team. I was rather surprised he wasn't a bureaucrat already. tempo di valse  17:55, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Questions
Do you accept the nomination? tempo di valse  17:55, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * wow, I was not expecting this at all. I would be honored if the community feels I could fulfill this position. It should be noted that I am less active now than I used to be, but if the community feels i am active enough, than I certainly accept this nomination. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments

 * Is the difference between an administrator and a bureaucrat the same as on Wikipedia? It appears the bureaucrat page on Wikinews redirects to the admin page, which is kind of confusing. Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk) 18:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Effectively, yes. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:42, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, then I know what I'm voting for. :) Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk) 19:47, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

 * It has already been ten days since this RfB started, I think it can safely be closed now. tempo divalse  22:33, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I am inclined to leave it run for 14 days, as it is an RfB and not to many people have commented on it yet, imho Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 01:32, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree with . Cirt (talk) 01:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * as nom. tempo di valse  17:55, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Van der Hoorn (talk) 19:47, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 19:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * red  - thunder  .  21:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * — Dunno how many Bureaucrats we need, but Bawolff would make a good one if we need to add to their numbers. Gopher65talk 04:27, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Good admin, will make a good bureaucrat. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 04:31, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know how I didn't see this one at the bottom of the page here. :( Hope I can still get this support in before the close. :P Cirt (talk) 00:02, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * <3 Bawolff --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 17:00, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Mike Halterman (talk) 21:54, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Removal/Skenmy (admin re-confirmation)

I am listing myself for reconfirmation of all flags I hold. This is currently: sysop, bureaucrat, checkuser, editor, and reviewer. My performance in the ArbCom elections has alerted me to the fact that I may no longer be trusted by the community at large - and I do not wish to cause controversy by holding flags the community does not wish me to hold. -- Sken   my talk 08:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

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 * retaining all user rights. Not doing too well at the arbcom elections isn't necessarily a sign that you're not trusted by the community any more. I suspect that most voters preferred the other candidates on the basis that they are more active on-wiki - and not because they didn't trust you. In any case, I have full trust in your ability to use the tools, and see no reason you should lose them. Tempodivalse [talk]  14:57, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * everything, agree with Tempodivalse. – Juliancolton  | Talk 15:39, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * --Jcart1534 (talk) 23:19, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * — I agree with Tempo's reasoning. I doubt your performance on Arbcom was a matter of not trusting you. Personally I didn't even bother voting on Arbcom because I didn't see anyone on the list whose nomination I opposed. Any of the candidates would have been fine with me. Gopher65talk 23:31, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No concerns. Adambro (talk) 15:43, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * With the possible exception of reviewer - not because I don't trust you, but simply because Wikinews doesn't actually use the group. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:44, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Computerjoe 's talk 00:21, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You may hate on Vector (and no, I'm not going to let this go until I get Vector default here), but we still wuvvle you. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 04:42, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Cirt (talk) 04:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * "(11:01:02 PM) terinjokes: ShakataGaNai: I'm to lazy to find the page – consider my vote as "confirm"" -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 06:14, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * --Brian McNeil / talk 07:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


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has been an active positive contributor to Wikinews for over a year now. His RfA had unanimous support, and an adminship reconfirmation also had unanimous support. I think that ShakataGaNai would serve the project well in this added capacity. Cirt (talk) 04:37, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Comments and questions

 * Do you accept the nomination? Cirt (talk) 04:37, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I can haz cratz? (Yes, I accept) -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 04:41, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * , per nom. Cirt (talk) 04:42, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * – Juliancolton  | Talk 05:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * - why? Tools for the sake of tools. We have plenty of active Bureaucrats -- Sken   my talk 07:56, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, Tempodivalse's RfB went overdue by several weeks, which might suggest that we do need a couple more bureaucrats. – Juliancolton  | Talk 14:10, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Was a Bureaucrat actually notified about the end of the vote? I certainly wasn't :) -- Sken   my talk 14:31, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that is like saying "Why do we need more admins?". We've also got plenty of active admins.  The problem is that we'd like to have someone active in each roll all the time, crat and admin.  On most wiki's we'd want more than one active admin at all time because there is a lot to do, wikinews not so much, but it is still a good idea. So lets take a quick look at the crats, we've got 10.   has been editing on 10 days this year,  once so far,  inactive since Oct 2008.  Not saying anything bad about those people (Those were just 3 easy people to point out), but people come and go on wiki's.  People get busy in real life, or simply get bored/tired/sick/frustrated with the wiki.  That long boring spiel being said, Skenmy feels we've got enough, that's perfectly fine.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 16:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The difference is we use admins a lot more (for archiving / editprotected / copyvio, etc) than other projects do. We actually use the tools for our project goals, rather than them being there just for technical reasons. However, our Bureaucrats have no difference between other projects - they serve two purposes here on Wikinews - promoting users and renaming users. We have six Bureaucrats who I would consider "active" at this moment in time - plenty for a project of this size. This isn't a personal jab against you, SGN, I have every respect for you and you are a fantastic contributor to the community. I simply do not believe in giving out tools that are not needed, just because we trust in a user. Admins are sorely needed by the majority of our regular contributor base. Bureaucrats are not. -- Sken   my talk 16:23, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

 * DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:44, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Even if we did need more 'crats — an argument that I don't buy — I believe we have a number of users who are better suited for this position. --SVTCobra 23:54, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
 *   Tris   10:13, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * for now per all arguments above. Van der Hoorn (talk • contribs) 22:44, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * there's no reason to have a set level of bureaucrats. If you trust the user, then give them the tools. I trust him so I support. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 20:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * User is able to be trusted with the tools.  hmwith τ   14:44, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * --Jcart1534 (talk) 21:08, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


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Letitia Long becomes first female director of a major US intelligence agency

🇺🇸 August 11, 2010 became director of the on Monday, becoming the first female director of a major intelligence agency in US history.

Long has been in government service for over three decades, and her former positions include second in command at the, deputy undersecretary of defense for intelligence, and deputy director of. Long was sworn in at the NGA's under-construction, Virginia campus, where she hailed the recently created NGA's accomplishments. She also said that "I have never seen an agency as young as the NGA do so much in so little time." The NGA was created in 1996 and collects and analyzes overhead imagery and geospatial information. The agency's motto is "Know the Earth, Show the Way."

Senator Dianne Feinstein, chairwoman of the Intelligence Committee, said that a woman director at a major intelligence agency was a key milestone, and she also said that "this is an important appointment, and I hope that she will bring a new and determined management ability to this agency." Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) director said that Long's appointment was an "outstanding choice" and that "having served in so many important roles over the course of her distinguished career, she will undoubtedly exercise strong leadership at NGA and help identify new ways to meet those challenges."

Though women have served in as second in charge in the National Security Agency, the and at the NGA, they have not served in the No. 2 position at the CIA.


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Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Administrator/CommonsDelinker 3

At the suggestion of ShakataGaNai, I would like to propose that CommonsDelinker be given adminship tools. For those who do not know, CommonsDelinker is a automated bot that delinks images from articles on Wikipedia and other projects that were deleted from the Commons or renamed on the Commons. The main page about the bot can be read on Meta. The main purpose on why I ask is that a lot of the pages on here are protected and trying to make an image deletion on the Commons, with an image still being used, will be very hard to do. If CommonsDelinker is able to do the job that he is supposed to do here, it will make things easier for yall and the Commons. It makes things easy for yall since you do not have to hunt down new images if things get deleted from the Commons. For the Commons side of things, we can remove images faster once we know all uses are gone. The Commons and Meta pages have all of the documentation and the people who run it. Zscout370 (talk) 21:44, 28 August 2009 (UTC) (Commons sysop)

Questions and comments

 * I have had to fight to recover images this bot has deleted in the past. They were not acceptable for Commons but perfectly useable on Wikinews under fair use provisions. Why can't the bot use editprotected like everyone else who hasn't proven themselves to know local project rules? --Brian McNeil / talk 23:24, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * To be fair, the bot doesn't delete the images, it just cleans up red links after an admin has. It also tries to swap out images when dupes are discovered, and similar. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 03:52, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Previous nomination #1 - Requests_for_permissions/Archive_3, previous nomination #2 Requests_for_permissions/Archive_4. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:57, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * If CommonsDelinker cannot be programmed to use the editprotected template, perhaps we could consider using CommonsTicker as an alternative? It is less intrusive than the delinker, as it doesn't edit anything but only makes notifications of changes. Tempodivalse [talk]  13:47, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

 * I tend to agree that the editprotected solution would be better, though since I can understand the reasoning behind this proposal, I won't oppose. – Juliancolton  | Talk 14:29, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * A related issue to this that springs to mind is 'snapshots' of pictures/maps/diagrams on Commons. Has anything been done about that? What I mean is - if a map of disease X spread is maintained on Commons are we getting snapshots made with a date in the title for use on our articles, and are these staying on Commons? --Brian McNeil / talk 15:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

 * As SGN points out above, it isn't actually this bot which deletes the image. That's done by an admin on Commons, the bot is just cleaning out redlinks or changing to point to a replacement image. If I understand correctly, images on Commons get tagged, the ticker bot spiders where they're used and posts notices of a potential change. So, in theory, people here can go and check out votes for deletion and so. Post-vote Delinker is supposed to go round all the projects and tidy up. IIRC, the ticker bot wasn't particularly informative about how to look into this. With the vote below as it stands, I would like to suggest the following: the ticker bot is tweaked to give us better notification, only on archived articles. We should not be required to go and look at the discussion on Commons until after we've locally evaluated the change. In addition to notifying us, the ticker bot should caution the nominating user on Commons, and add a note in any vote on Commons for a deletion or change. Basically, it should tell them the image is in use on an archived and protected page on Wikinews and point them to WN:ARCHIVE or whatever parts of the mission statement clearly define the "known at a point in time" nature of the project. If a deletion or change still goes through after that, then delinker should use editprotected to request the change. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:11, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * From my commons background, this really should be done. In fact it should have universal sysop but some groups a bitches. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 21:45, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * per arguments below. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:17, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Commons has a habit of replacing images with newer updated versions, especially when it comes to charts, graphs, and maps. This has the potential for 'breaking' the archive. I realize it is a hassle for Commons sysops when Wikinews is the only one still using the old image. Therefore, I agree with Brian McNeil that the ideal solution would be for the Delinker bot to 'learn' to use editprotected. Then we can evaluate if the new image is an exact match and take action accordingly. --SVTCobra 23:33, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * mainly per SVTCobra. The bot could "break" the archive by updating images with newer versions when it shouldn't - i.e. updating a chart, which will cause it to incorrectly reflect the content of the article it is in. We need a human to make sure the replacement image is suitable - not a brain-dead bot. Additionally, as Brian points out above, many images unsuitable for Commons could be uploaded locally, under fair use, instead of being deleted wholesale. I think the best solution would be for CommonsDelinker to use the editprotected template on an article's talk page to inform of changes. Tempodivalse [talk]  03:14, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Considering our history with the bot, I think the so called some bitches includes us too (see the bots previous noms, and some of the discussion relating to the block of the bot in various user talk archives, as well as various grumbling elsewhere. Sufficed to say, this bot is not popular.). Well I understand the motivation for making sysop, and agree that in many (but perhaps not all) cases it would do good things, I don't really want it to be able to edit protected pages. I feel the editprotected solution would work best for everyone. If it proves that we agree with all the editprotected requests, we can revisit this discussion at a later date. Bawolff ☺☻ 03:57, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * per the arguments above -- Sken   my talk 11:39, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The bot's work is important, no doubt, but sometimes it is unnecessarily destructive. An extra pair of human eyes would be a good thing. EVula // talk // 20:09, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This bot being an admin would allow Commons to go back to ignoring this project's specific needs. There is a long history of this bot breaking WN:ARCHIVE and I am vehemently against it regaining the ability to do so. This bot has been proven to be disruptive. I am of the view that image changes on archived articles should always be checked by an administrator. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:33, 30 August 2009 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Juliancolton

I'd like to nominate Juliancolton for adminship. Over the past two months, he's done a great job both writing and reviewing articles, and I believe he will be able to help the project even more in the added capacity of a sysop. Tempodivalse [talk]  00:19, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Questions and comments

 * Do you accept? Tempodivalse [talk]  00:19, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, I accept. While I have a relatively low number of edits, I believe my work here has generally been of high quality. If it helps, I'm already an admin at enwiki, simplewiki, and commons. Thanks for the nomination, Tempodivalse! – Juliancolton  | Talk 05:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * as nominator. Tempodivalse [talk]  00:19, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * . High quality positive contributor to the project, should be quite helpful as part of the admin team. Cirt (talk) 05:43, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * -- Sken   my talk 07:34, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * --Brian McNeil / talk 16:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * --Computerjoe 's talk 17:23, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * good user --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 20:38, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 22:11, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * --SVTCobra 21:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * -- A true net asset to all WMF projects.  fr33k man t 08:18, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Trusted.  hmwith τ   14:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Great Wikimedian. Durova (talk) 16:41, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * --Jcart1534 (talk) 21:07, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * from enwiki YellowMonkey (talk) 05:58, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 07:07, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This user has proven that he can be trusted on numerous occasions. Den dodge T\C(en.wp) 14:01, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


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Thread:Comments:Western Australian court to set precedent on the burqa/A cultural issue going to far/reply (2)

It is hardly persecuation to ask to see the face of someone when weighing up their honesty for the first (and probably only) time.

This is not a simple case, and there are very strong arguments to be placed by both sides.


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Wikinews:Requests for permissions/CheckUser/Cirt

(checkuser)
I would like to nominate Cirt as an additional checkuser. He's been an active editor/admin at this project for about two years now, and I believe he can be trusted with the tools. (He's already identified himself to the WMF, so that isn't an issue.) I think it's appropriate for him to have these rights, since he's a member of the ArbCom. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Questions and comments

 * Do you accept the nomination? Tempodivalse [talk]  15:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the nomination. I accept. Cirt (talk) 16:01, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Please remember to use # to format votes, not *. Tempodivalse [talk]  15:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * We have four users with checkuser. Why do you feel we need a fifth? Can you provide an example of where it would have been helpful to have had a fifth user with checkuser? --Jcart1534 (talk) 01:52, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Additional active checkusers will help to ensure that someone will always be around to attend to an urgent issue, and significantly decrease time for requests in general. Cirt (talk) 02:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

 * As you are a member of ArbCom, would you have asked for the tools now or seen the need to ask for them were you not nominated? --Jcart1534 (talk) 01:52, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I have yet to self-nominate for consideration of admin or other increased rights on this or any other wiki project. I am honored by the nomination from . Cirt (talk) 02:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I wasn't so concerned with who nominates, but was more interested in your sense of the need for such tools (which you answered in my first question). You are trusted and will get my vote, but these are serious privacy-related tools and so I feel a couple of probing questions are warranted. --Jcart1534 (talk) 10:55, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Jcart1534, thank you for your trust in me, it is most appreciated. Cirt (talk) 17:24, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Cirt - I have nothing against you personally, you are a fantastic contributor to the project. However, as has been demonstrated previously, I do not believe in giving tools for the sake of tools. We have 4 checkusers on this project, two of which I would consider active, and the other two are around sporadically enough to be of use to us should we ever need 4 checkusers. I see no point in having another checkuser. I will not oppose the vote - CU is difficult to get as it is and I don't wish to hinder you. -- Sken   my talk 13:00, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Skenmy, I thank you very much for your kind words about my contributions to this project. One thing to keep in mind is that the project must have a minimum of two checkusers to even have the local privilege at all. Four individuals is a small group of people. If any one of the four has to go inactive for personal reasons, then it may be hard to cover the gap. Cirt (talk) 17:22, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

 * I have highlighted this discussion on the checkuser-l mailing list. This list is for cross-wiki private communication between checkusers. Realistically, Wikinews cannot muster the required votes to get someone checkuser. There have been previous cases where checkusers from other projects have voted in such cases. Any non-regular who is voting because of this should please identify which project they are a regular contributor to/checkuser on, and where they know Cirt from. I know he's also active on en.wp, possibly elsewhere. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Will you assure us that you'll abuse your power? -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 06:31, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * No. I will strive to do my best to use the tools in the same manner in which I have used the admin tools in the past: to help the project. Cirt (talk) 06:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * ShakataGaNai's sense of humour slip past you? --Brian McNeil / talk 16:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's worth both a chuckle and a serious reply. Cirt (talk) 16:48, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Awwww, thats no fun. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 17:11, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Heh, perhaps instead I should have responded with another question: What are we going to do today, Brain? Cirt (talk) 17:17, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Have you made use of Nmap in the past, or do you have other familiarity with IP protocols that might help in identifying open proxies and DHCP ranges of persistent vandals and abusers? --Brian McNeil / talk 16:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have made use of Nmap. Other methods include examination of the IP: static/dynamic, well known problem ranges, hosting companies and other unusual IP ranges, and IP specific records such as blacklists, well known proxy lists, and search engines. In the past I have not made determinations on port scanning on my own, but have rather consulted with more experienced administrators and checkusers and we have come to an assessment together. In the future I will continue to seek out the knowledge and experience of those that have been doing this longer than I, when a case is not obvious, as I feel input from other experienced administrators and checkusers is always a plus when performing such actions. Cirt (talk) 17:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

 * You are currently an admin on wikinews, commons, wikipedia, wikisource, wikiquote, as well as having otrs access. How long before you take over the world? :P Bawolff ☺☻ 07:36, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Approximately Seven Days. Cirt (talk) 09:03, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Last use of checkuser: August 16, 2009 (I've been busy, and checkuser mailing list has been quiet)  May 9, 2009  June 4, 2008  January 1, 2008 --Brian McNeil / talk 00:47, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * 1) as nominator. Tempodivalse  [talk]  15:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) per nom. –  Juliancolton  | Talk 16:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) per nom. 22 votes to go! Computerjoe 's talk  17:22, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 20:38, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) Bawolff ☺☻ 21:06, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) Pi zero (talk) 21:44, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) Don't know much about you, but from what I have heard, you can be trusted. Drew R. Smith (talk) 14:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) --SVTCobra 22:02, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 9)  fr33k  man t 08:18, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) Of course. Definitely trusted.  hmwith  τ   14:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 11) per nom. Durova (talk) 16:42, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 12) I mean, he's a good guy.... but can we trust him? He nom'd me for crat, obviously he's off his rocker. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 17:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * And you got crat, so that would make the rest of us off our rockers too :-P DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:18, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) I've observed candidate from en-Wikipedia. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) --Jcart1534 (talk) 21:09, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) From en.wiki. YellowMonkey (talk) 05:58, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Known & trusted from Commons (which is where I tend to be!) -- Herby  talk thyme 16:26, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) I have had very little (if any) interaction with this user on Wikinews, but I have seen them doing fantastic work on the English Wikipedia, and see no reason for them to not receive my full support. Den dodge  T\C(en.wp) 12:16, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 6) -I don't really need to vote seeing as there is unconditional support. but per others i do. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:19, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 7) *Comment WMF policy requires 25 support votes for CU as a minimum. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 18:35, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 8) IMatthew (talk) 20:02, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 9) Very trustworthy, and having an extra pair of eyes is never a bad thing. I don't think projects need tons of CUs (except maybe enwiki), but having only two active (and two in reserve) is a little bit limited. EVula // talk // 20:14, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 10) While I have no personal objections to the user being given CU, I don't feel that there is any significant need (per ). Furthermore, I do not feel that  would abuse the tools in anyway (and his track record as an admin here is pristine to my knowledge), however, the number of CU users is already high enough. That said, if one or more the existing CU withdrew they CU status, I would see the need for the Cirt to get the tools as he is a frequent contributor/admin. Calebrw (talk) 20:22, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Since you fully trust Cirt not to abuse CU, what harm do you see in him being given the extra bits? There's no reason to have a set limit of checkusers - the more we have, the shorter the response time will be when a check is needed to be done (and it's not like CU is a useless tool, from what I understand checks are performed almost every day). Besides, two of our checkusers (BrianNZ and Cspurrier) are completely inactive, so for all practical purposes we have only two, which I think is a bit on the low side for a project this size. Tempodivalse [talk]  20:32, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I gotta ask, what is with this communities love of "We don't need em, vote against em" policy? We're all friends here (Ok, most of us are friends... Ok... some of us are friends).  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 22:52, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I could have put, but I felt that better suited my vote. Calebrw (talk) 00:32, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Tempo: While BrianNZ and Cspurrier are indeed fairly inactive at this time based on the number of contributions, I have no reason to believe they haven't been using the CU on a daily basis (I'm simply unable to tell (so if there is in fact one, please let me know)). At this time, the only way in which I would change my vote, is if one or both of the two users currently given CU status, but apparently inactive were to be dis-allowed the status. I could also be swayed I suppose, by any relevant testimony by BrianMC or Skenmy were to give on this subject. Calebrw (talk) 00:32, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * As Brianmc's comment above says, we have in effect only two users who have used the privs in the past year. If one of them becomes inactive, then the other will receive less oversight for his actions - and it might be difficult to cover the gap. Tempodivalse [talk]  03:21, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) We need more than two active CUs imo, and Cirt strikes me as a good choice. I would go so far as to say that one more CU as well as Cirt would be useful on this project.  Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 2)  Unlike some, I believe that even if we don't neccesarily need them right now-it does absolutely no harm to have a trusted user given privileges.  I'm sure there will be some time when they are needed-if the others are unavailable etc.  2 active Check Users is really not enough anyway, so good luck.     Tris   20:27, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) I'd tended towards Skenmy's position on this until I saw the checkuser log. I'm perfectly happy for Cirt to have the tool - as long as he leaves it to the rest of us to beat the crap out of the investigate and take action on Scientologists if they come back. :-P --Brian McNeil / talk 11:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) One more support to 25. Good luck, Cirt. (I know Cirt from Commons and en.wp) --Kanonkas (talk) 18:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 5) The above points and votes have made me reconsider my earlier position. Cirt, I am proud to vote you #25 - welcome to the CU team on enwikinews :) --  Sken   my talk 18:29, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Request Submitted: --  Sken   my talk 18:33, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Effectively this ends the voting. But as CU is an important election, we should keep it running for at least 24 more hours to make it the full 7 days. I'm not sure if CU is supposed to be 7 or 14 days, but seeing is how it is amazing we managed to get 26 votes for anything.... IMHO 7 is sufficient. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 18:54, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Tristan Thomas

Tristan Thomas, otherwise known as Dottydotdot, has been an active contributor to Wikinews for the past few months and has racked up about 750 edits. He's helped the project a lot in his time here, and i think he'd be a positive force with the sysop buttons. Tempodivalse [talk]  16:13, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Comments and questions

 * Do you accept the nomination? Tempodivalse [talk]  16:13, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * With pleasure, thank you very much. I've made one big mistake, which most will know about; I'm not going to try & hide it-but trust me, that won't happen again!  Thank you for the vote of confidence Tempo.     Tris   18:50, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * If you've only made one big mistake, we might as well speedily promote you..... :) – Juliancolton  | Talk 19:05, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * ;) Big-the rest have been normal!    Tris   19:24, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Why do you contribute to Wikinews? What do you get out of it? --Brian McNeil / talk 20:19, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Answer:I contribute for a few reasons-firstly & most importantly, I enjoy it. Secondly, I believe if we can get it right, it can be the future of journalism.  Citizen journalism is on the rise & with more & more people having access to the internet when they are mobile, it can only increase.  It may not be Wikinews that grows because of that-it could be iReport or any of the others, but I want to try & help Wikinews be that one & with the base of contributors we have, I think it could be.  Thirdly, it is so useful for me-I can spend a bit of time every day that keeps me up to date with current affairs, which otherwise busy life might take away from me.     Tris   07:37, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you think its lame that the wikinews community has ran out of 42 jokes to ask at RFA's? Bawolff ☺☻ 16:13, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Response: Without a shadow of a doubt.    Tris   17:16, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * as nominator. Tempodivalse [talk]  16:13, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * pending acceptance of nom. – Juliancolton  | Talk 16:26, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * . Bawolff ☺☻ 17:31, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * , per . Cirt (talk) 00:57, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * --Jcart1534 (talk) 02:12, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * --Brian McNeil / talk 07:47, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * - I don't know what your "one big mistake" was, and I'm not going to bother to look, since I'm certain you would make a fine admin. The mistake, whatever it is, makes me uneasy, but I am not going to pressure you to reveal it (whatever it is, I am sure it will not affect my opinion, so there's no point). Den dodge  T\C (en.wp) 10:11, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't mind saying-basically, I didn't check an article for copyvio properly & published it. I know you said it won't affect your opinion, but for anyone else who doesn't know-I'm not pretending it didn't happen, because it taught me a lesson & so served a purpose!  Thank you for your support, however uneasy!  <i style="position:absolute;z-index:-1;bottom:0;width:2.8em;height:8px;background:#eee;"> </i>  Tris   15:19, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * — I have no objections. Gopher65talk 16:05, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 17:03, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


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Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Dendodge

I'd like to nominate Dendodge for adminship here. He's been around for over half a year now, and has been consistently active for the past two or so months. He's written and reviewed a lot of articles in his time here, and I think he could help the project even more with the admin tools. Tempodivalse [talk]  20:30, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Questions and comments

 * Do you accept this nomination? Tempodivalse [talk]  20:30, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I am honoured by the nomination, and humbly accept in the hope that it will be the first step towards achieving my evil plans for world domination! Den dodge  T\C 20:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Take the job seriously, but never take yourself seriously. --Brian McNeil / talk 01:53, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Votes

 * as nominator. Tempodivalse [talk]  20:30, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * - I nom'd him for sysop at the English Wikipedia, so I'm still pretty confident in Dendodge's abilities as an admin. – Juliancolton  | Talk 21:13, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * , per . Cirt (talk) 21:15, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:37, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * although, I'm worried about this 'humbly' bit. You're supposed to become a Wikinews admin with plans for world domination — then get handed a bucket and mop. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:50, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree I am a new user and do not know much about Wikinews policies and guidelines, why to support for an RfA under what conditions, etc. but Dendodge has helped me a lot in my early stages and he has guided me with the policies and I was totally new to Flagged Revs as wikipedia doesn't have it. He helped me out with that too. I think he is quite experienced and knows about wikinews and the community very well. So, I think I have to support and he has received good community consensus above. Srin  ivas  06:20, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep    Tris   12:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * per Brianmc though, this humbleness is a bit disturbing, but it could just be a ploy to get us to let our guard down ;). Bawolff ☺☻ 01:37, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Better now? Den dodge  T\C 19:10, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Ha! The evil conspirator has his vile scheme uncovered! Weclome to the cabal janitor's room. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:54, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Much better. Strong . Bawolff ☺☻ 01:13, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know whether I can !vote; however, I support Dendodge to use the tools well. Pmlineditor  Talk 09:39, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought he already was... -- Sken   my talk 10:17, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
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Mia Farrow, Carole White testify in Charles Taylor's war crimes trial

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Actress and Carole White have testified in former-Liberian president Charles Taylor's war crimes trial at the Special Court for Sierra Leone in The Hague, The Netherlands.

Farrow and White's testimonies contradict supermodel 's testimony from last week.

White said Campbell was "mildly flirtatious" with Taylor at a dinner in South Africa in 1997. Taylor, she alleged, told Campbell he would send her diamonds. White continued to say Campbell communicated with Taylor and awaited the diamond. Campbell was "very excited" about the diamonds according to White.

"[Taylor's men] came in and they sat down in the lounge and we sat opposite them... they then took out a quite scruffy paper and they handed it to Miss Campbell and said 'these are the diamonds.'"

Farrow claimed Campbell told her Taylor received diamonds in the middle of the night. She testified, "[Campbell] said that in the night she had been awakened, some men were knocking at the door, and they had been sent by Charles Taylor, and they had given her a huge diamond."

Last week in Campbell's testimony, she did not know who sent her diamonds, but testified her then-agent White told her who probably sent the diamonds. White and Farrow testified Campbell said the diamonds were from Taylor. She claims she gave the diamonds to Jeremy Ractliffe who gave them to police.

Police spokesperson Musa Zondi confirms Ractliffe had uncut diamonds. "Yes, they are real diamonds. We cannot tell whether they are '' or not. That will be part of the investigation," Zondi said.

Taylor faces eleven counts for violating international law including, murder, rape, sexual slavery, enlistment of children under the age of fifteen, pillaging, enslavement, and "outrages upon personal dignity."

Taylor allegedly traded "blood diamonds" for weapons and supplying the Revolutionary United Front (RUF) of Sierra Leone with weapons during the civil war from 1991 to 2002. This war conscripted child soldiers, an international crime. The prosecutors for the Special Court say Taylor trained the rebels and had them rape, murder, mutilate, and decapitate the civilians of Sierra Leone. Over 100,000 people died in the Sierra Leonean civil war. Taylor plead not guilty to all charges.

Linking the blood diamonds, used to support the RUF, to Taylor is a high priority for the prosecution.


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Since it is no longer publicly editable, I am trusting the information is complete. However, I believe the links are lacking, and there should be more.


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Would you please read the article before commenting? If anything, we need to stop pursuing the Taliban because they are a waste of our precious financial resources. Where is James Bond when you need him?


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Don't post spam, or you'll get blocked. This is your one and only warning. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 11:50, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

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Copyedits on Kosmala's 2012 Games inclusion highlights Australian Paralympians' longevity
Just a FYI on this; you've been reverted on what I can clearly see are well-intentioned edits, and I agree that "athletics athlete" is dreadful phrasing; however, it's worth pointing out why as your 'disagreement' with Pi zero and myself has it's basis in journalistic style. Firstly, use active voice (if you can word to use "competing" rather than "competed", do so). Second, a point which is intended to amuse and push to avoid pleonasms—''that is a four-letter word.

As I say, it is obvious your edits were in good-faith, I just felt it would be worthwhile to point out why they ended up being reverted. I did so before seeing Pi zero had done so previously. I've subsequently looked at the earlier edits and am going to re-introduce "track and field" as a way of avoiding the "athletics athlete" wording. --Brian McNeil / talk 06:36, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your feedback. Nowadays I'm always a little wary of setting someone 'off on one' (I have an unenviable reputation :P). And, I'm delighted to see you picking your way through the style guide making useful changes. If you're more used to Wikipedia, it would be very helpful if you could – as a newcomer to the project – distill some more of that monster down into the Wikinews for Wikipedians essay. The other obvious project-namespace page you might want to refer to is How do I ... ? which is newer, and intended to answer common questions for newcomers – with reference to the more substantial policies but, without forcing people to read them in their entirety – if you think up questions it doesn't answer, then ask them and I'll see about adding them in. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:25, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The Wikinews Style Guide
Well, absolutely nobody could accuse you of not reading our 'bible', Graham. But, watching you make minor edits, and chatting in IRC about that with another established contributor, gave me an amusingly mischevious idea.

How about going back to the WN:SG and deliberately introducing some typos and really bad grammatical errors? [I'm even prepared to hide the revisions of such, for reasoning which follows.]

I've lost count of the number of times I've pointed new contributors at the policy; but, never before been able to clearly see they've gone through the policy thoroughly. In such you are, most definitely, the exception to the rule. The usual scenario with a newcomer to Wikinews editing policy is "they don't like it" and fail to see the basis for it. Looking at the edits you've made, I can easily see the community welcoming you as a reviewer if, and when, you put together a few articles and get them published.

We're a 'robust' community (read: we're not shy of telling people to piss off), and—personally—there is a determination not to end up in the sinkhole The Other Place is gleefully heading to. So, in addition to cobbling together the Howdy template that's posted above, I'd like to welcome you as someone who could make positive contributions here. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:18, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * This is far from being "damned by faint praise"; I'd absolutely nothing to do with Iain (BloodRedSandman)'s further edits. But, since he's one of the other project 'crats, his edit summary on your edits is kudos. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:10, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * This is far from being "damned by faint praise"; I'd absolutely nothing to do with Iain (BloodRedSandman)'s further edits. But, since he's one of the other project 'crats, his edit summary on your edits is kudos. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:10, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Is WN's "editing policy" still as poorly written and structured as it used to be? I seem to remember you blocked me (soon undone by one of your colleagues) for daring to try to improve it. And are you still conducting that let's hate en.WP campaign at WN? I was tempted to lobby the WMF board to close the WN project, but never got around to proceeding. Tony1 (talk) 12:17, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you list trolling on your CV? --Brian McNeil / talk 13:09, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * No. Do you list abusiveness on yours? Tony1 (talk) 13:19, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

 * Well, ignorant seems to be one of your favourite insults ... see the quote in the thread above where you've just posted on my talk page? And you must be familiar with my statement here last year, which just about sums you up. So nothing's changed, has it, and donors' money is still poured down the pan on your fascist and unprofessional little site. You just don't have the insight to engage someone you've obviously wronged (among many who've deserted WN), do you: ...
 * Brian, recognising that Tony is likely still to be extremely pissed off with him and to be doing WN's reputative no good at all elsewhere in the movement, decides on a positive response to Tony's bait:
 * "Hi Tony, glad to see you here. Nice work at the Signpost. If you'd like to contribute to WN again, you're welcome. Do ask me if you need any assistance."
 * Thus, Brian pulls the carpet from under Tony, trapping him into either not responding at all, or into taking up his positive frame. This way, Brian feels quite good, reinforcing his leadership role at WN and his skill at turning a negative situation into a positive one; and Tony might even feel better about Brian and WN, and possibly a little guilty at having been negative. Tony1 (talk) 14:13, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

 * Graham, just a note to say that McNeill is accusing me of driving you off this site. Laugh my arse off. And his little lackey Amgine is doing his bidding for him, too. Tony1 (talk) 01:44, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
 * ROFL! Graham87 (talk) 02:34, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Style guide
Since you're not a contributor here, and therefore have neither experience by which to understand how the project works nor accumulated reputation for understanding it, I recommend extreme restraint in editing the style guide. --Pi zero (talk) 13:53, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Of course; I've only stuck to minor edits. Graham87 (talk) 15:06, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've started a thorough review of the Style Guide, drawing on experience. Although it is rather rusty experience after a long absence here. The problem with Wikinews policy is we try to keep mainspace the primary focus, meaning policy can decay unnoticed over time. Copyedits to my additions welcome; many are clunky. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:19, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

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They should of kept it open, and kept on spying on them. These radicals will just move off somewhere else - probably to the one in New York.


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Talk:Juan Montoya wins second career NASCAR Sprint Cup race

I tried to review, but this source is trying it's best to send my cursor into a spitting fit. This could mean I'm unlucky enough to have just the wrong setup for that page, but if another reviewer has a problem I'd advise them to fail on verifiability. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 11:37, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It works on my computer. (Internet Explorer). -- Nascar 1996  13:31, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Which it shouldnn't matter now. The other references back this one up. :) -- Nascar 1996  13:32, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Good good. I'm going to try and review based on those references. If I can verify everything, I'll remove that one. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:37, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


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Several injured at campground in Maine as storm topples trees

August 11, 2010

A family of six were injured at Flat Rock Bridge Family Resort and campground in, Maine after a severe thunderstorm caused trees to topple, with one landing on a tent. A 10-year-old girl was critically injured after a tree fell on the tent she was sleeping in. Witnesses say the girl was pinned under the tree for at least 10 minutes before they were able to remove it.

Witnesses also say the day was beautiful and sunny, but at around 6:00 p.m. a storm rolled in, darkening the sky, followed by heavy winds and rain. Witnesses describe a "funnel-like wind" which lifted items off the ground and threw them around. The strong winds then brought down trees and limbs, with one landing on the family's campsite and tent. Severe lightning was also reported.

"The female patient was loaded into Lebanon Ambulance One and transported to Frisbie Hospital in Rochester to be stabilized and then was transferred to the trauma center at Maine Medical Center. Her injuries were considered critical and life threatening when she left the scene," said Jason Cole, the assistant rescue chief for the area. The victims names have not been released and the girl's current condition is not yet known.

Rescuers responding to the scene noticed several other trees and limbs scattered around other campsites and searched all 350 sites, but no other injuries were reported. Other campers say they had several close calls with tree limbs and debris. At least 12 trees were reported to have toppled during the storm. The family's car was also destroyed when a tree limb landed on it.

The in Maine says it will investigate whether or not the storm produced a tornado.


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Former US Senator Ted Stevens among five killed in Alaska plane crash

August 10, 2010

Former US Senator Ted Stevens, 86, and former NASA administrator, 54, were on an airplane that crashed in southwest Alaska, the Associated Press reports. A family spokesperson later confirmed that Stevens died in the crash, following earlier conflicting reports about his status. Both O'Keefe and his teenage son survived, according to a former NASA spokesperson.

In addition to the former Senator and former NASA chief, there were seven other passengers, The New York Times reports. Of those, five were reported to have died. The plane was heading to a fishing lodge near Lake Aleknagik when it crashed. Senator Stevens' body has been recovered.

The Alaska National Guard was called in at 7:00 p.m. (0300 ) Monday, and arrived at the crash site about 7:30 a.m. AKDT (1530 UTC) Tuesday. Severe weather has made finding the crash site difficult for rescue personnel. The National Transportation Safety Board, or NTSB, said it was sending a team of investigators to the crash site, which is unusual for crashes of private aircraft.

As of 10:00 a.m. AKDT (1800 UTC), three of the survivors have been airlifted from the site by the United States Coast Guard.

Ted Stevens was born on November 18, 1923 in, Indiana. He began serving as a US Senator for Alaska in 1968, and held the postition until 2009, when he was defeated in a reelection bid by. He was also facing corruption charges at the time, which were later dropped after an initial conviction when it was found that prosecutors had withheld evidence from Stevens' defense attorneys. In 1978, Stevens survived a plane crash in, although the incident claimed the life of his first wife, Ann.

Sean O'Keefe was nominated as a NASA administrator in 2001 by then-president George W. Bush, and led the space organization through shaky times, such as the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster. He resigned in 2005 to become the chancellor of.

Related news

 * "Alaskan Democrat gains in US Senate race". Wikinews, November 18, 2008
 * "Three US Senate seats still undecided". Wikinews, November 12, 2008
 * "Three US Senate seats still undecided". Wikinews, November 12, 2008


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Workshop
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Still killing 150.000 civilians was bad thing to do, not comparable to pearl harbor though they didn't open war but attacked cowardly, well u were both gay.


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Wikinews is not Wikipedia
I have redeleted your article because it is not appropriate for Wikinews. Wikinews is, as is implied by its name, a news site. You want Wikipedia, which is over there. --Alexandr Dmitri (talk) 13:59, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

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Indonesian government bans pornographic sites

August 11, 2010 The Indonesian Ministry of Communications and Information Technology has announced that the government will be banning pornographic sites in the country. The announcement comes before the Islamic holiday of Ramadan. The ministry conducted a technical test of the banning program with the six largest internet service providers in Indonesia —, , , , Bakrie Telecom, and. The ministry is optimistic that their ban will make 80% of pornographic sites inaccessable in the Southeast Asian country.

The People's Republic of China runs a similar program that blocks pornographic websites.

Communications minister Tifatul Sembiring said that about 200 ISPs in Indonesia had agreed to block the websites. Sembiring also said that ISPs would not suffer any losses by blocking pornographic websites.

He also added that the ministry would adopt the same approach used by, which involves constantly monitoring offensive content which, when discovered, is immediately removed.


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I'm sorry. . . you're laughing at an atomic bombing? Seriously? That's sick, even for a troll.


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Can anyone help me to repair this article? This is my first time to write a new article in English. Kenrick talk 16:21, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Yeah sure I'll give you a hand. But you can't give sources that aren't in English. Because for English wikinews they will have to verified by people who cannot necessarily read that language. You need to find some english ones. Just do a google news search for the story. You'll get loads. Type it up and I'll edit it for language corrections. Just make sure your meaning is clear. FireLyte--spyre (talk) 17:43, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

I've added some source that is in English. Hopefully there is some Indonesian newspaper that is in English. You can verify the news now. Kenrick talk 03:53, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

I've done major copyediting on the article and I've put it up for review. I think the article is now up to grade. --Shankarnikhil88 (talk) 04:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the copyediting. Kenrick talk 05:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Illustration
Is this article intended to be banned, too? --AVRS (talk) 12:58, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * If the ministry know it, then this article will be banned... hahaha Kenrick talk 14:26, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the right illustration is like the one that is displayed on Indonesian BBC. Kenrick talk 14:28, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

 * I don't. This is nothing to do with signs or advertising. In the same way as we don't make things explicit for the hell of it, equally, we should not remove explicit images for the hell of it. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

 * By the argument Dendodge is presenting, this car image should go, because that car wasn't involved. Same here. And this croc, because it wasn't the croc that bit the man. This jet didn't crash. Neither did this Concorde. Etc. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:45, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikinews is not censored, however good taste should dictate that we do not include unrelated explicit images even if a vague connection can be argued. File photos should be used when they contribute a meaningful illustration of the topic. In this case all that is being added is an image of something everybody seen before and is needlessly offensive. --Cspurrier (talk) 15:35, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * After a bit of IRC consultation with AlexandrDmitri, he's off to Wikipedia's Indonesia project to try and get someone to screenshot what people see when they try to access porn now: I expect everyone can agree on that. Of course, I'm not sure if it's been implemented yet.... Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:11, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I've left a message and am in #wikipedia-id, but neither seem particularly active. --Alexandr Dmitri (talk) 15:16, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

 * We cannot make judgements of values such as taste and decency within articles. I take it you feel none of the images used above should have been used, then? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:38, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe that when we have the option of adding something that adds minimal news value to a story, we should aim for inoffensiveness. If the potentially offensive material added real news value then "Wikinews is not censored" should make the decision simple. This is not the case though, this is not even a good use of a file photo. File photos should be used when they provide a useful comparison for the reader. If the photo is of a similar item as the subject of the article that would be a good use of a file photo. Of the ones you listed this one and the two plane articles show photos of similar items as subject of the article. This one and maybe the croc article are not great uses of file photos. The insurance fraud article uses a photo of the car when the subject is actually the policeman or the actions of the court (A good file photo would be the court house). A random image that illustrates the multitude of images that are effected under the law is inappropriate. It would be like including a file photo of you in an article about changes in a law in Scotland under the principle that you as a citizen (iirc) of Scotland are effected. --Cspurrier (talk) 16:06, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

 * I disagree with your viewpoint, but I'm prepared to acknowledge you've made a very good argument in support of it. I take the view that images are our friend, to be used where possible provided we have something realted. Isn't it sad how we've never properly discussed when to use a file photo (or even a WN:File photos), but one that people find unpleasant appears and all hell breaks loose? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 16:23, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * File photos are fine, but explicit pornography is too much. How about the Indonesian flag or the logo of the ministry involved? That is surely much less likely to offend anybody. Δεν δοδγε  τ\c 18:50, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

From a purely personal point of view, I did not like the pornographic image of the woman used because it did indeed offend me; however, that is entirely beside the point. The article is about blocking of such images and as such the image illustrated the article. I am not arguing the case for gratuitous use of pornography on Wikinews, but I'm afraid that I agree with BRS that "I don't like the image" smacks heavily of censorship. Now what would have been much more useful, rather than debating the use of the image, plus the various reverts that went on, would have been to help those of us who tried to find an alternative image which illustrated the article, as is now the case. --Alexandr Dmitri (talk) 17:01, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * There are plenty of other images that have much less chance of offending people: An example 404 (or 505 or whatever Indonesians get), a photo of the minister of communications or whoever is in charge of the ministry that did this, the seal of that department, even the flag of Indonesia or a photo of its president (or prime minister or whatever they call it). I am not opposed to the use of explicit images when they add something to the article, but we all know what porn looks like and plenty of people could be offended by this image, which has no good rationale for inclusion, especially with so many alternatives available. Δεν δοδγε  τ\c 21:14, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * None of the items you suggested add anything more than the porn except the block image - which AD and I spent some time getting hold of whilst others merely whinged. As I said below, if you want to make 'offensiveness' viable under policy - go propose such a policy. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Okay, now the illustration problem is finished. (and this article won't be blocked too) Kenrick talk 03:56, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

New policy
It strikes me that since people clearly haven't got the balls to look at (gasp!) something, as described above, we've all seen[paraphrased], then it looks to me like someone should be proposing a new policy exception, since inclusion is clearly within current policy. Good luck trying to word that one properly. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:42, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * But, but,... ! The Internet is for pr0n! [Disclosure: I've not looked at the apparent edit/revert war.] Remember, Wikinews is not censored. I strongly suspect the initial image should have been left, then replaced once the Telecom Indonesia one was obtained. --Brian McNeil / talk 05:49, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Typo
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Typo in title, should be moved to "...government...". --YMS (talk) 19:40, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

 * ✅ --Pi zero (talk) 15:14, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


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JetBlue flight attendant accused of cursing at passenger granted bail

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flight attendant Steven Slater, who allegedly cursed at a passenger on an airplane intercom, quit his job, grabbed some beer from a beverage cart, and exited the airplane using an emergency slide, was released on $2,500 bail by New York City police Tuesday night.

Slater's intercom cursing and dramatic exit was apparently provoked by a passenger who swore at Slater and hit him with her luggage. Defense attorney Howard Turman said that "The woman [who hit Slater] was outraged and cursed him out a great deal." According to prosecutors, Slater also said on the address system that "those of you who have shown dignity and respect these last 20 years, thanks for a great ride."

According to passenger Phil Catelinet, Slater seemed happy after he made the expletive-laced announcement which included "to the passenger who just called me a mother fucker, fuck you. I've been in this business 28 years and I've had it." Catelinet recalled "he was smiling. He was happy he'd done this."

Slater was arrested by police for activating the emergency escape slide, which could have crushed someone on the runway as the heavy slide came down. The 38-year-old is charged with criminal mischief, criminal trespassing, and reckless endangerment. JetBlue, a low-cost US airline, declined to say if Slater was on paid leave and in a statement the company said that "at no time was the security or safety of our customers or crewmembers at risk."

Slater has gained more than 140,000 fans on Facebook and a thousand people have joined a group named "Free Steven Slater". Other groups that have sprung up include "I hate the mother fucker who called Steven Slater a mother fucker" and "I want Steven Slater to be my flight attendant".


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