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Technology innovations unveiled on Research at Intel Day 2008

June 19, 2008 The "2008 Research @ Intel Day" showcased conceptual innovations in the fields of visual computing, wireless, health care, environment, and life sciences.

Last Wednesday, Intel said it is investing some of its $6 billion research budget in the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California.

Technology related to mobile computing, green technology, WiMAX and wireless networking, solutions for healthcare with SHIMMER and BioMOBIUS technology, an intelligent identification robot named "BarKeep", and Platform Power Management, were showcased there.

In the keynote address, Justin Rattner, Intel Senior Fellow and Corporate Vice President and director of Intel's Corporate Technology Group, introduced the history of microprocessors and said: "Parallel Computing will be a critical factor on programming for the best experience to users."


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I am not sure if copying some keynote quote into this article from another news site is proper or not, and in addition, this event is taken place at USA, so please local readers do more help. Brock contact... 11:06, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

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Please review that I didn't change the meaning of anything. Cheers, --SVTCobra 17:59, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

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Comments:Temporary restraining order stops demolition of partially collapsed building in Buffalo, New York

Good luck residents, glad I could come out Sunday to try to help!

Freudenheims
For all of you who think you know everything about Nina and Bob and the livery situation, you do not. You most certainly do not.

They have been looking after the buildings for a while now and a man came to look at it and stead it was on solid ground...is it their fault that the guy was an idiot?

Are you seriously going to attack the Freudenheims, an elderly couple that meant NO harm simply for making a mistake that was intentional?

Everyone has no heart, no life, and harrassment measures, as the police have reported, will be taken into full effect if they are going to be harrassed or threatened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.234.16 (talk) 03:20, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

KNOCK IT DOWN
AGAIN, WHILE BUFFALO IS BURNING (THE SECOND POOREST CITY IN THE U.S.)A NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK CLUB WHO IS MORE INTERESTED IN MAKING THINGS LOOK GOOD RATHER THAN BE GOOD, IS PLAYING THERE SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS FIDDLE. WHEN ARE THE TRUE BUFFALO NATIVES GOING TO SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. THIS BUILDING SHOULD BE LEFT IN THE HISTORY BOOKS AND THAT IS THAT. IT HAS BEEN UP FOR SALE AND GUESS WHAT, NO ONE PURCHASED IT. COULD IT BE THE POLITICAL AGENDA, THE TAX EQUATION, JOBS, UNFAIR COURT SYSTEM,ETC., ETC., THAT KEEP PEOPLE FROM INVESTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, WELL WAIT A MINUTE, MAYBE ITS THE NEW LOFTS INVESTORS ARE BUILDING IN DOWNTOWN BUFFALO. WAKE UP, IN THIS COUNTRY, AN INDIVIDUAL HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE HIS OR HERS OWN WAY.IF THE OWNERS OF THE BUILDING WANT IT KNOCKED DOWN, LET IT BE WHAT THEY WANT AND NOT THE DECISION OF A BLOCK CLUB, THAT HAS A NAZI AMERICAN AGENDA AT HAND. YOU HAVE TO ASK YOUR SELF: WHY DIDN'T THE BLOCK CLUB PURCHASE THE BUILDING OR FIND SOME ONE TO PURCHASE IT.SOME PEOPLE WITH NOTHING TO DO ALL DAY JUSTIFY THERE LIFE BY BITCHING. HOW SAD BUT TRUE. AS FOR HOUSING COURT, JUDGE NOWAK SHOULD BE PUT ON TRIAL FOR VIOLATING PEOPLES CIVIL LIBERTIES ON A STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL AND JAILING THE POOR.IF HE WASN'T A CONGRESSMAN SON, I WONDER HOW FAR IN LIFE THIS UPPER CRUST, POLITICALLY CONNECTED, PAMPERED MAN COULD OF GOTTEN. A JUDGE WHO DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE SEPARATION OF POWERS SHOULD BE TAKEN OFF THE BENCH.REMEMBER THE CONSTITUTION.WELL, ITS BUFFALO AND THE CRAP SEEMS TO NEVER END, EVEN IN THE COURT SYSTEM.IF ALL THE HOUSES WHERE PAINTED IN THE CITY OF BUFFALO, WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS, JUST ASK THE JUDGE, WHEN HE'S AT CHURCH ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS OF THE SINS HE HAS COMMITTED AGAINST HOME OWNERS.YOU NEVER KNOW HE MIGHT BE SITTING NEXT TO HANS MOBIUS, TIM TILLMAN, HARVY GARRETT, PANO, AND THE DEVIL. LAST COMMENT: THE STORY OF THE THIS BUILDING WILL BE PUBLISHED IN THE BUFFALO EVENING NEWS AND AGAIN, WE WILL BE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE NATION. SIGNED WITH HONOR, CLARENCE CARNAHAN


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Australian government considers controlling fuel supplies

June 16, 2008

The gas crisis in Western Australia continues to deepen with more businesses standing people down without pay. Businesses have been instructed to turn off non-essential items including limiting the number of lifts and reduced lighting; domestic customers are also urged to reduce energy use.

In the Federal parliament today Resources Minister Martin Ferguson raised the prospect of activating the Liquid Fuel Emergency Act. "During such a situation, I can control the production, transfer and stock levels of crude and liquid fuel...While I sincerely hope that this will not be required, the Liquid Fuel Emergency Act provides authority for the Australian Government to prepare for and manage a national liquid fuel supply emergency," he said.

Western Australian Premier Alan Carpenter called on all Western Australians to reduce energy usage, saying that the situation could be managed with on going co-operation, while reassuring everyone that the crisis will be short, with the Apache Corporation expected to begin partial operations in two months. Supplies were interrupted after a fire at Apache's Vanarus Island refinery, which supplied 30% of the state's natural gas requirements.

An Alinta spokesman has said that with the expected cold weather during the next week demand will put further pressure on supplies, advising that it is critical that all consumers limit energy usage.

Alinta requests that residential customers;
 * use only essential heating and limit it to one room
 * turn down hot water system by 10 degrees
 * reduce shower times
 * wash in cold water.

While suggesting small businesses;
 * shift production schedules
 * bring forward maintenance and shut down schedules
 * turn off equipment not essential to the business.


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Elián González joins Communist youth group, AP says

June 16, 2008 The Associated Press is reporting that Elián González was among the 18,000 youths who joined Cuba's Young Communist Union on Saturday. Juventud Rebelde, the communist youth newspaper, quoted González as saying that he will never let down ex-president Fidel Castro and his brother, Raul Castro.

An international custody battle centering around González became the focus of much media attention eight years ago. The boy had survived a boating accident when he and his mother fled Cuba to go to the United States. His mother did not survive the accident.

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Quoting reader commentary from other sites??
I do not like this paragraph which contains a highly POV quote posted by a reader of the Daily News:
 * ''A comment posted on the New York Daily News article by a someone named "Pyrrhus" said, "Undoubtedly a total government brainwashing began the minute he arrived back in Cuba. It's sad that a child so young was put into such a political situation. Who knows what political ideals he would have embraced had he been free to chose them on his own. As much as we bicker politically in these Daily News commentaries, let's remember that we are privileged by having the right to do so here in the United States."

I think it is inappropriate. Thoughts? --SVTCobra 15:54, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I think it shows the context of Cuba-United States relational problem. Not from the government but from a regular person. Kingjeff (talk) 15:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

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There is no doubt in my mind this is from a single source. "said AP" is affixed to virtually every paragraph in the Bloomberg article, there is zero evidence they have verified the content of "Juventud Rebelde", and the only non-AP aspect of their story is the background. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

You might as well just delete the article then. Kingjeff (talk) 21:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

 * I have added a newer Bloomberg article where it seems they went back and verified the AP story. I also added the Juventud Rebelde article and though my Spanish is limited, it seems to substantiate the claims. I removed the single source tag. --SVTCobra 21:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

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Maybe the title should change back since it has been verified. Kingjeff (talk) 01:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


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This will only make it worse! 129.186.177.73 15:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

 * I do wonder how this works, and if it'll incite a black market. 68.39.174.238 21:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

It won't be long before the U.S...
I guess the author of "BoRev" wasn't paying much attention until he heard the word "Chavez" from the "or whatever" comment, but he had the guts to post the whole transcript (of which, as alluded to earlier, I doubt he has read/listen to completely). I judge that misstatement by Representative Peterson to be an honest mistake. After all, It takes a whole lot more than a "retard" to own "and operate a retail food market in his hometown of Pleasantville for 26 years." I have problems with consistencies in lists as well. Also, if little mistakes like this should be how intelligence is measured, wait until Mr. Bolivarian Revolution hears more of Obama off 'prompter

Correlation between intelligence and speech aside, on November 13th, 2007 I watched a similar speech by our same Earth Murdering Peterson on C-SPAN.

Bottom Line: Much of the United States’ natural gas reserves are, in John Peterson's words, locked up; so probably in the years to come us in the States will have similar problems to that Australia endures now, but not out of our lack of gas or lack of capability to create/maintain infrastructure. QUINTIX (talk) 16:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Try to keep your comments on-topic. --SVTCobra 16:54, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


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Hallo! I'm likely to read your message more promptly if you leave it on my English Wikipedia talk page. PamD (talk) 16:06, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Dixie Chicks show documentary at TIFF

This is my first time venturing in here, to comment, (though I add a lot of text and references at the english wikipedia). The first paragraph on this page referring to George W. Bush's comments on the boycott of the Dixie Chicks leads the reader to the assumption that he actually attended the showing of the documetary. Are the guidelines still the same, when anyone (within reason) can edit a page or must someone else who wrote the page have that honor? --Leahtwosaints (talk) 19:27, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This article is archived and should not usually be edited.  19:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
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Harrier jet crashes in Rutland, England, pilot survives

June 16, 2008

A Royal Navy pilot has safely ejected from his Harrier GR7 aircraft moments before it crashed in a field near the small village of Ashwell in the county of Rutland in England. The crash occurred at about 1350 BST today.

The pilot was taken by air ambulance to Queen's Medical Centre in Nottingham for treatment for spinal injuries.

Local resident Vic Harrison spoke to the BBC about the incident: "I thought he didn't stand a chance, but I looked up and saw the parachute of the pilot. I really thought he had hit the houses. It was a narrow miss - it must have been just 400 yards from our house. It has been an exceptionally lucky escape."

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Study raises health concerns about shower curtains

June 16, 2008 The Canadian Environmental Law Assocation and the Canadian organization Environmental Defence jointly conducted a study that was released to the public on Thursday, saying that chemicals released by new vinyl curtains may pose a significant health risk.

The study noted that many shower curtains contain more than 100 volatile organic compounds (VOCs), phthalates and organotins, some of which may be released into the air when first taken from a package. These chemicals, responsible for the characteristic smell of new vinyl, may cause damage to kidneys, the liver and the central nervous systems, respiratory problems, nausea, headaches and loss off coordination, according to the report.

These vinyl curtains are also said to contain traces of metals like lead, cadmium and mercury.

Jennifer Foulds of Environmental Defence advises consumers to seek alternatives to new vinyl products such as shower curtains and table cloths. Older products are thought to be safe, as they have already released most of the allegedly dangerous chemicals.

Critics of the study have called it "fear-mongering", and some health professionals agree that the risk is being overblown. Warren Foster, a professor in the obstetrics and gynecology department at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario points out that, "the difference between hazard and risk is great, and without knowing the actual human exposure, it's premature to make any judgement."

Foster further commented that the study was not performed in a rigorous manner by not having controls or random sampling.

Five brands of shower curtain were examined in the study; they were purchased from American stores including Bed Bath & Beyond, Kmart, Sears, Target and Wal-Mart. Curtains of the same brand are also available in major Canadian stores.

Marion Axmith, director general of the Vinyl Council of Canada calls the report a "blatant attempt to manipulate consumers and retailers into thinking shower curtains pose a danger, and they don't." She noted that, "as far as we know, nobody's ever been harmed by a shower curtain."

Vinyl has long been a point of dispute between environmentalists and those in the chemical industry. A chemical used to make vinyl is known to be a risk for liver and other cancers for chemical plant workers, and the phthalates in vinyl products have been linked to interference with normal male hormone production.


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Welcome
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Wikinews:Briefs/June 16, 2008

Scores dead, thousands flee as flooding spreads across southern China
Over 50 people have been confirmed dead and at least one million people have fled from their homes as a result of heavy flooding across much of southern China.

In the Guangdong and Jiangxi provinces alone, at least 6,000 homes have been submerged and destroyed by the flood.

Further rainfall is expected to occur throughout the next ten days.

RAF Harrier jet crashes in Rutland, England, pilot survives
A Royal Navy pilot has safely ejected from his Harrier GR7 aircraft moments before it crashed in a field near the small village of Ashwell in England. The crash occurred at about 1350 BST today.

The pilot was taken by air ambulance to Queen's Medical Centre in Nottingham for treatment for spinal injuries.

Local resident Vic Harrison spoke to the BBC about the incident: "I thought he didn't stand a chance, but I looked up and saw the parachute of the pilot. I really thought he had hit the houses. It was a narrow miss - it must have been just 400 yards from our house. It has been an exceptionally lucky escape."

The plane, from the nearby RAF Cottesmore airbase, was on a training mission and is said not to have been carrying any weapons.

Senior intelligence official suspended after leaving top secret files on train
A senior intelligence official in the United Kingdom has been suspended from his job pending an investigation into top secret documents that were left on a commuter train on Tuesday. The Cabinet Office confirmed that the documents, including reports on Al-Qaeda and Iraqi security forces, had been found on the train and handed in to the offices of the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC), who turned the files in to police.

According to the BBC, one of the documents, a seven-page report entitled "Al-Qaeda Vulnerabilities", was classified "UK Top Secret" and had every page numbered and labelled "for UK/US/Canadian and Australian eyes only". The other document, "Iraqi Security Forces: More or Less Challenged?", had been commissioned by the Ministry of Defence, which the BBC's security correspondent, Frank Gardner, described as being "damning" in parts. Both were produced by the Joint Intelligence Committee, a government organisation designed to present information from several British intelligence services to ministers and senior officials.

The person believed to be responsible for the breach works for the Cabinet Office's intelligence and security unit, which contributes to the Joint Intelligence Committee. He had authority to take classified documents out of the Cabinet Office, under strict security procedures. The Metropolitan Police are investigating the incident, which the Conservative Party's security spokeswoman, Dame Pauline Neville-Jones called "the latest in a long line of serious breaches of security involving either the loss of data, documents or Government laptops".

The Cabinet Office's admission of the breach came on the same day the UK government voted on a resolution allowing authorities to detain terror suspects for up to 42 days without charge.

Australian government considers controlling fuel supplies
The gas crisis in Western Australia deepens with more business standing people down without pay. Businesses have been instructed to turn off non-essential items including limiting the number of lifts and reduced lighting, domestic customers are urged to reduce energy use.

In the Federal parliament today Resources Minister Martin Ferguson raised the prospect of activating the Liquid Fuel Emergency Act, saying "During such a situation, I can control the production, transfer and stock levels of crude and liquid fuel...While I sincerely hope that this will not be required, the Liquid Fuel Emergency Act provides authority for the Australian Government to prepare for and manage a national liquid fuel emergency supply"

WA Premier Alan Carpenter called on Western Australians to cut back on energy usage saying that situation can be managed with on going co-operation, while reassuring Western Australians that the crisis will be short. Supplies were interupted after a fire at Apache's Vanarus Island refinery which supplied 30% of the states natural gas requirements.

Temporary restraining order stops demolition of partially collapsed building in Buffalo, New York
In an exclusive report, Wikinews has learned that a restraining order won by area residents has temporarily stopped the emergency demolition of a three story building which partially collapsed on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 in Buffalo, New York. The collapse caused at least 15 homes surrounding the property to be evacuated

During the early afternoon hours on June 11, the Buffalo Fire Department was called to scene at 428 Jersey Avenue after residents called 9-1-1 stating that part of a building had collapsed. A large portion of a former livery and stable had collapsed into the yards of at least four houses that surround the stable. Some of the bricks landed inside the building, while some fell into the yards of some houses behind homes on Richmond Avenue, leaving a 'V' shape.

According to savethelivery.com, a website set up and dedicated to "saving part of this historic structure", the restraining order was granted on Saturday, forcing demolition crews to halt their work. The site also states that court papers will be filed on Monday in an attempt to hold the owner Bob Freudenheim responsible for the damage done to the building, and surrounding properties. The site states that Freudenheim has neglected the building for "the last twenty years."

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This should not be in the Science and Technology section.
 * I agree. I changed it to Religion. --SVTCobra 21:54, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

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Bush, Brown threaten further sanctions against Iran

June 17, 2008

U.S. President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown have promised new sanctions on Iran if the Gulf country continues to enrich weapons-grade uranium.

At a joint press conference in London today, Brown announced that "today we will urge Europe - and Europe will agree - to take further sanctions against Iran." Britain is pressuring the European Union to freeze the overseas assets of Iran's Bank Melli, which the United States accuses of supporting Iran's missile programs. European Union spokesperson Cristina Gallach says that Europe is prepared to take action.

Iran denies its enrichment program is aimed at the creation of nuclear weapons, insisting that they will use the technology to generate electricity. In response, Brown announced that during weekend negotiations, "we put our enhanced offer on the table - including political and economic partnership and help with nuclear technology for civilian use. We await the Iranian response and will do everything possible to maintain the dialogue."

In response to the announcement, Iran has withdrawn approximately $75 billion of its European foreign assets. "Part of Iran's assets in European banks have been converted to gold and shares" said Iranian deputy foreign minister Mohsen Talaie, "and another part has been transferred to Asian banks." The Iranian government gauges its foreign exchange reserves at $80 billion.


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Al Gore endorses Obama for US President

June 16, 2008

Environmental activist and former Vice-President Al Gore today announced his support for Democratic candidate Barack Obama in the United States presidential election.

In an email sent to Obama supporters, Al Gore voices his support for the presumptive nominee. "From now through Election Day," he writes, "I intend to do whatever I can to make sure he is elected President of the United States." He believes that Obama is the candidate who will "bring change to America" in issues such as the Iraq War, the American economy, and climate change.

"Over the past 18 months, Barack Obama has united a movement," Gore writes. "He knows change does not come from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue or Capitol Hill. It begins when people stand up and take action."

Gore also stated his intention to attend a rally with Obama in Detroit, Michigan later that night. Obama was in Flint earlier today, where he addressed a crowd of workers at a General Motors plant. Obama said Gore was "a visionary, not just for the party, but for the country."

At the rally in Detroit's Joe Louis Arena, Gore called Obama "the next President of the United States of America" and said he could lead the nation past "eight years in which our Constitution has been dishonored and disrespected". He addressed the issue of climate change, which he said many Republicans had "refused to discuss at all".

"The outcome of this election will affect the future of our entire planet," Gore said, adding that "the future is ours, not to predict, but to create." He compared the criticisms of Obama's young age and foreign policy experience to those faced by John F. Kennedy in the 1960 Presidential election.

Obama spoke next, thanking Al Gore and calling him "a global leader in the fight for a clean energy future". He discussed many issues, including healthcare, education, the national debt, and the war in Iraq. He criticized the way the Bush administration has handled these issues, and repeated the oft-heard criticism that McCain is running for Bush's "third term".

"We can't afford 8 more years of George W. Bush policies," Obama said. He said that if there was one thing that could unite the Democrats, it is that "when we go into the polling places in November, the name 'George W. Bush' will not be on the ballot." Obama commended McCain for his service to the country, but said that he "seems to have lost his way" from his reputation as a political maverick. "The Straight Talk Express lost a couple of wheels," he said.

Many of the problems in America "go back for decades," Obama said. "The American people feel that American dream slipping away. So we cannot wait... and that is why I am running for President of the United States of America." Between cynicism and faith, Obama says, "I choose hope. I choose faith."

Obama thanked his supporters for helping his campaign, saying that "change in America doesn't happen from the top down; it comes from the bottom up." He also thanked former candidate Hillary Clinton, although many booed at the mention of her name. "She's a fighter," Obama said. "And we need fighters in the Democratic Party because we've got a lot to fight for." Obama and Gore were introduced by Michigan governor Jennifer Granholm, who supported Clinton in the primaries but now says she is supporting Obama.

Al Gore served as Vice-President under President Bill Clinton in the '90s, and after losing the 2000 Presidential election to George W. Bush, he focused his efforts on environmental activism. He has won an Academy Award for his documentary An Inconvenient Truth, as well as a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts in teaching the public about climate change.

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I subscribe to Obama, so I received the email announcing Gore's support. The full text is as follows:

A few hours from now I will step on stage in Detroit, Michigan to announce my support for Senator Barack Obama. From now through Election Day, I intend to do whatever I can to make sure he is elected President of the United States. Over the next four years, we are going to face many difficult challenges -- including bringing our troops home from Iraq, fixing our economy, and solving the climate crisis. Barack Obama is clearly the candidate best able to solve these problems and bring change to America. This moment and this election are too important to let pass without taking action. That's why I am asking you to join me in showing your support by making a contribution to this campaign today: https://donate.barackobama.com/gore Over the past 18 months, Barack Obama has united a movement. He knows change does not come from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue or Capitol Hill. It begins when people stand up and take action. With the help of millions of supporters like you, Barack Obama will bring the change we so desperately need in order to solve our country's most pressing problems. If you've already contributed to this campaign, I ask that you consider making another contribution right now. If you haven't, please take the next step and own a piece of this campaign today: https://donate.barackobama.com/gore On the issues that matter most, Barack Obama is clearly the right choice to lead our nation. We have a lot of work to do in the next few months to elect Barack Obama president, and it begins by making a contribution to this campaign today. Thank you for joining me, Al Gore LIVE TONIGHT -- 8:30 p.m. EDT: Watch streaming video of Al Gore and Barack Obama at a rally in Detroit, Michigan: http://www.BarackObama.com

~Planoneck~ 22:44, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

 * This hit the newswires hours ago ... I don't really think it is "breaking". Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * True, but there's still the rally in Detroit later tonight where Gore and Obama will appear together. Should I take the breaking tag off and just update the article when the rally occurs? ~Planoneck~ 22:50, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose if you mention the upcoming appearance in the article — and plan to update for that — it could justify the breaking tag. (Wow, big thunderstorm here, I just lost power briefly, must have hit nearby, I can already hear the fire-engines). --SVTCobra 23:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess that's not what you are going do (due silence), so the "breaking" tag should be removed, as I will do. If Gore is announced as VP candidate, that warrants a new article anyway. --SVTCobra 00:41, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the silence, I meant to reply but I didn't get around to it. Anyway, I watched the speech live on Obama's website and transcribed some of the more important quotes, though some were gleaned from Yahoo! News. ~Planoneck~ 02:48, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I'am not sure how to put the original copy back Ny sorry. but i got the vandalism. PyroAlters (talk) 11:37, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I explained on your user talk page, but the basic idea is that you can view and edit an out of date version, but when you save it it'll make it the current one, thus reverting the vandalism Nyarlathotep (talk) 11:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


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Anyone think they'll announce Gore as running mate at the rally tonight? I'd be pretty happy to see that ... Wikidsoup (talk) 23:13, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * While Obama probably needs a running mate that can make up for his lack of experience in international matters, he also can't afford to have a VP candidate that could overshadow him. I think Gore is too "big" and would be surprised if he is picked. --SVTCobra 23:20, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Secondly, would Gore want that job? He would have been a real contender if he had run for the top job himself. I think he is happier being the beloved "green giant" of the environmental lobby. --SVTCobra 23:24, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You're probably right. Although, his comment that, "I intend to do whatever I can to make sure [Obama] is elected President of the United States," had my hopes up :) Wikidsoup (talk) 23:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


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It seems pretty clear that the rest of the EU is ready for more sanctions, shouldn't that be part of the title. --SVTCobra 23:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

If you can thing of a better headline, I have no objections. --Munchkinguy (talk) 03:17, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


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US Midwest floods raise concerns about water quality

June 17, 2008

In the Midwestern United States, floodwaters contaminated with a toxic brew containing such ingredients as sewage, farm runoff, and petroleum are raising concerns over the availability of clean drinking water.

Flooding has been reported in the states of Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois, Wisconsin, Missouri, Kansas and Indiana, with three deaths reported each in Iowa and Indiana, prompting comparisons to similar floods in 1993 that caused US$21 billion in damages. The flooding in Iowa has resulted in damage to buildings, infrastructure and farms, and governor Chet Culver's office has estimated that 36,000 people have been made homeless.

Residents of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, who had begun returning to their homes to inspect damage and salvage belongings, wade through ankle-deep water that has picked up refuse from farms, sewage, and other noxious chemicals. LeRoy Rippert, chairman of emergency management and homeland security in Des Moines County, was concerned for residents, saying "It is very, very wise to stay out of it. It's as dangerous as anything". Experts in biology and medicine also raised concerns over the floodwater contaminating rural wells and providing breeding grounds for mosquitos. "For rural folks, it's going to be hard to know if their water's safe or not," said G. Richard Olds, chairman of the Medical College of Wisconsin. Ken Sharp, environmental health director for the Iowa Department of Public Health, acknowledged the risks of the contaminated water, but suggested that the sheer volume of water may help to dilute the pollution.

June has seen a number of disasters hit the Midwest, including a tornado that killed four Boy Scouts last week.


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Comments:Elián González joins Communist youth group, AP says

I wonder
I wonder what would have happened if he was allowed to stay in the U.S.?????

He wouldn't be a commie. Kingjeff (talk) 03:13, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Would have been a fascist instead, like those whitehouse freaks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.149.143 (talk) 09:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Like he had a chose? If your in your late teens and don't have a job in cuba you are arrested on conspiracy charges ageist the party. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.25.248 (talk) 13:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh my...! That's THE wet dream for many Republicans! And it is a reality in communist Cuba!

The World really is crazy... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.242.244.79 (talk) 22:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Wikinews interviews Gene Amondson, Prohibition Party presidential nominee

WOW! Great journalism. You captured this guy so well.

Haha greatest years. If you were a mobster... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.248.9.115 (talk) 16:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

gene amondson.... meet the real reaper and go kill yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.9.147.249 (talk) 12:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

i just need to speak my mind on that last paragraph
first of all, i think Obama has come across setteling this issue about kids drinking at a certain age. i dont think its possible that you can prevent everyone from drinking, especially middle-aged kids. It is my opinion that McCain can reach those standards, but Obama can also reach those standards, and more.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.228.8.2 (talk) 14:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Bush, Brown threaten further sanctions against Iran

We're dooomed! Doooooooooomed! --Munchkinguy (talk) 03:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't be so dramatic. --BamaMac

More sanctions?
Do the iranians care? They have oil... I believe that it is them that have the power to sanction, not the US or the UK...

So lame... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.149.143 (talk) 07:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Well the thing is that an economy does not (or at least should not) live on oil alone. Also note that they are the "the second biggest gasoline importer in the world after the United States, consuming over 400,000 bbl/d", so they are very dependent on other nations. Considering this dependences in both directions, buying gasoline and their dependence on selling oil, I don't think Iran has much sanctioning power. QUINTIX (talk) 12:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
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West Australian Premier addresses gas crisis in televised broadcast

June 17, 2008

Western Australian Premier Alan Carpenter made a two-minute broadcast on all televisions and radio stations over the gas crisis. The crisis began after a major fire at the Vanarus Island refinery operated by Apache Corporation reduced the available natural gas by 30%.

During the broadcast which was recorded earlier in the day Premier Carpenter said, "this is a serious situation which affects us all."

"While the state government has the power to guarantee gas supplies to essential services and households, some industries and businesses have been hit hard."

"A number of them are being forced to scale back operations and others have temporarily closed."

The Western Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry predicts that up to 15% of companies will be forced into temporary shut down. A representative from the Property Council of WA, which represents commercial property owners, has said that "we are going to have to get used to cold offices and dimly lit shopping centres"

Western Power today released figures showing that the power consumption has reduced since the crisis started. They said that the daily usage reduction of 40-50 megawatts was a moderate saving, that consumers could do much more.


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Australian growth forecast reduced to 2.7%

June 17, 2008

Australian economic growth forecast for 2008/09 has been reduced to 2.75% as the impact of the gas crisis ripples through the economy.

Federal Resources Minister Martin Ferguson said today that disruption to economic activity is expected as Western Australian companies layoff thousands of workers with mining and industrial companies forced to cut back production.

BHP Billiton has brought forward upgrades to its nickel refinery in Kambalda and diverted its gas allocation to keeping the Worsley Alumina refinery operating. The upgrade originally scheduled for mid 2009 is expect to take four months to complete. BHP has said that it will continue to accept ore from independent mining operators in the area inline with current contracts.

Economists expect continuing turbulence as mining companies come under pressure to continue to supply China's demand for materials from Western Australia, combined with growing inflation rising gold and commodity prices.


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Scientists say genetic building blocks are from out of this world

June 20, 2008 A team of scientists from the United States, United Kingdom and the Netherlands have determined that chemicals that form the building blocks of DNA and RNA found in a meteorite had formed before the meteorite fell to Earth. In a paper published in Earth and Planetary Science Letters on June 15, the team documents an examination of molecules found in the Murchison meteorite, fragments of which landed near the village of Murchison, Victoria in Australia in 1969.

Previous studies had identified amino acids and sugars in the meteorite that were believed to have formed in space. The samples the current study examined included molecules of uracil and xanthine, which belong to the class of nucleobases - chemicals which, when combined with sugars, form a crucial part of DNA and RNA. These molecules contained a form of carbon, known as carbon 13, in much higher concentrations than would be expected if they had come from contamination through exposure from Earth sources. The study, using nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) imaging, had not been undertaken before due to its laborious and time-consuming nature - the low concentration of nucleobases in the meteorite meant that 15 grams of space rock had to be processed to get a large enough sample, compared to the milligrams required for previous studies.

Co-author Dr Zita Martins, a chemist and astrobiologist from Imperial College London, believes their findings suggest that some of the chemicals that generated life on Earth came from meteorite bombardments. "We are not saying that only meteorites contributed to the building blocks of life," she said, "but it's a very great contribution." Other scientists, however, do not believe that meteoritic chemicals played such a significant role. According to Emeritus Professor Robert Shapiro of New York University, "They're a subunit of a subunit of DNA. My opinion is that their amounts were utterly unimportant and insignificant."

Wikinews contacted Professor Paul Davies, a physicist and astrobiologist presently at Arizona State University, about the recent findings. While he agreed with the findings, he said that he thinks such discoveries are "a red herring in the origin of life story - a hangover from the Miller-Urey experiment. Life is all about information - its replication and processing."


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Talk:Australian growth forecast reduced to 2.7%

Just a note: the articles linked to this WikiNews story say that the growth rate has been reduced TO 2.7% - not reduced BY 2.7%. There is a big difference between these two statements.
 * fixed, thanks for picking that up Gnangarra (talk) 08:00, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I think you spelt forecast wrong, 58.165.146.50 08:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Accuracy
I believe the thrust of the article may not be accurate. The way I read the sources, it would seem that the economic forecast had already been reduced to 2.75% back in May, prior to the gas plant explosion. According to Resources Minister Martin Ferguson, the explosion was likely to lead to "lower growth than might otherwise have been the case". It is not stated to what percent the lower growth might be, but it is implied it would be lower than the already lowered forecast of 2.75%. Just some food for thought. --Jcart1534 (talk) 22:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Oil prices drive new investment in clean technology

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I cannot believe this news is not included in Category:Renewable energy. --Nopetro (talk) 09:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Hundreds of cyclists take part in 2008 London Naked Bike Ride

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Gov. Bobby Jindal supports creationism as part of ‘the very best science’

June 17, 2008

Governor Bobby Jindal, a Republican politician from the U.S. state of Louisiana, appeared on CBS’s Face the Nation on Sunday and said he supports teaching intelligent design (ID) in public school as "the very best science." Jindal, who was elected governor in 2007, is a Hindu convert to Catholicism who takes the Bible literally.

In his exchange on the Sunday morning talk show, "Some want only to teach intelligent design, some only want to teach evolution. I think both views are wrong, as a parent."

In a September 2007 debate he supported the view of creationism saying, "Personally, it certainly makes sense to me that when you look at creation, you would believe in a creator."

Recently, the Louisiana House of Representatives passed legislation, which the National Center for Science Education said "opens the door to creationism in public school science classes." The bill is currently on his desk.

Jindal is currently considered a possible Vice President candidate for John McCain's U.S. Presidential campaign.


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Comments:Gov. Bobby Jindal supports creationism as part of ‘the very best science’

The 'Face the Nation' quote has been selectively edited to misrepresent the Governor's words
He never called creationism the 'best science.' Here is the actual extract. Please correct this.

Gov. JINDAL: As a parent, when my kids go to schools, when they go to public schools, I want them to be presented with the best thinking. I want them to be able to make decisions for themselves. I want them to see the best data. I personally think that the life, human life and the world we live in wasn't created accidentally. I do think that there's a creator. I'm a Christian. I do think that God played a role in creating not only earth, but mankind. Now, the way that he did it, I'd certainly want my kids to be exposed to the very best science. I don't want them to be--I don't want any facts or theories or explanations to be withheld from them because of political correctness. The way we're going to have smart, intelligent kids is exposing them to the very best science and let them not only decide, but also let them contribute to that body of knowledge. That's what makes the scientific process so exciting. You get to go there and find facts and data and test what's come before you and challenge those theories.

If the takes the Bible literally, he might want to reconsider Exodus 31:15: "For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a sabbath of complete rest, holy to the LORD; whoever does any work on the sabbath day shall surely be put to death."

Appearing on a Sunday morning talk show for political campaigning could reasonably be construed as working on the sabbath. --+Deprifry+ 17:31, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Really? He might be McCain's running mate? I think that would be the best thing to happen to the democratic party since watergate. I think I'll cross my fingers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.182.198.105 (talk) 21:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Great!
Please, please get this guy on the McCain ticket and let every scientist in the country denounce his views on teaching ID in science classes.

These retards don't have a clue about science and probably majored in embroidery, or some such middle-ages pursuit. Why he's even a state governor with views like this is beyond me. There certainly is debate in the scientific community about the mechanics of evolution, but there is no controversy in stating that it is how we came to be from a planet where single-cell organisms were the only form of life.

If this buffoon gets his way the international reputation of American education will go down the toilet because students have been taught that "if you don't understand, God must've done it". --Brian McNeil / talk 18:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Intelligent design and creationism
I was sorry to see that the writer of this article does not know the difference between intelligent design (ID) and creationism. They are not the same. It is possible to hold one view and not the other.

Also, the writer turns this article into a polemic to expound his own views about evolution vs. creationism and ID. Frankly, the whole thing is anything but objective.

--Kenneth Ryland —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kvryland (talk • contribs) 19:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't be stupid. There is next to no difference. Creationism is "God made it all at once" (or in six days). ID is "God has been fiddling with things forever to get where we are today". Both are religious viewpoints that have no place in a science class.

"Civilization will not attain perfection until the last stone from the last church falls on the last priest." — Émile Zola

--Brian McNeil / talk 19:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Religious/scientific viewpoints aside, he has a point about the article being a little biased. Is all that background information on some unrelated court case necessary for comprehending the article? ~Planoneck~ 20:18, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not American but I'm sure there is some sort of thing in the US constitution that says to religion and state separate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.152.103 (talk) 21:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

In a perfect world, the above statement would be correct —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.23.7.229 (talk) 03:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Creationism belittles God
A creator that uses evolution, deserves far more respect and adoration than a creator who runs around tightening every nut and bolt of biology. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.132.3.9 (talk) 13:07, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This is a semi-religious view that I can respect. Personally I do not believe in a god or other supreme being, but if you're going to it certainly is more awe-inspiring to think they set it all up at the beginning and had worked out that the rules they wrote into the universe would lead to intelligent life. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:41, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

"Jindal is currently considered a possible Vice President candidate for John McCain's U.S. Presidential campaign."

That just about says it all, doesn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.99.206.251 (talk) 00:53, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

i really hope people dont judge native louisianians by the way bobby jindal acts he isnt the sharpest tack in the box. he is a disapointment

this page seriously needs updated.

An embarrassment to republicans and government employees everywhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.103.191.187 (talk) 02:17, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

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Mr Jindal's views lie far outside the accepted scientific views on evolution. Intelligent Design and creationism are associated with pseudoscience(National Center for Science Education, American Association for the Advancement of Science, national Academy, and the 75 Nobel laureate signatories to the recent letter to the Louisiana legislature (2012) urging that body to revoke its 2008 law allowing the teaching of creationism in public schools. Creationism is not a belief in a creator, nor is Intelligent Design. They are fraudulent, pseudoscientific meta physical religious concepts masquerading as science. Science deals with natural laws and supernatural events or magic do not fit the definition of science. Mr Jindal is a hoaxster. William Fraser Oil and Gas Geoscientists Dallas Texas —38.114.105.228 (talk) 18:08, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


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Talk:Harrier jet crashes in Rutland, England, pilot survives

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Over 50 dead after Iraq bombing

June 17, 2008 A bombing in the Iraqi capital of Baghdad has killed 51 people, according to local police. The car bomb exploded near a bus stop in the Hurriya area, which is mainly populated with Shia Muslims. 75 people were also wounded by the attack.

This bombing, which set over twenty shops alight, has a higher death toll than any other bombing in Baghdad over the last three months.

The attack follows an effort by the Iraqi and US forces to increase the security situation in Iraq, which has suffered many attacks since the 2003 invasion by coalition forces.

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Are you the Turkish Researcher in the article you are writing? 20:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I am a Turkish correspondent who talk to Mr. Kanarya. I published a press release about his theory at my newspaper Aksam. This news is not a hoax. Regards,

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I am a Turkish correspondent who talk to Mr Ferhat Kanarya. I published his theory on my newspaper. A lot of Turkish historians support his solution.


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Talk:Gov. Bobby Jindal supports creationism as part of ‘the very best science’

Neutrality
This article reports on a statement made by Jindal in an interview and then it seems to go on the attack with language like this is not the first time and listing court cases etc. why he is wrong and topping it of with this unsourced statement: ''In contrast, the scientific community considers creationism, including intelligent design, to be pseudoscience. Whereas, evolution is overwhelmingly accepted as the foundation for modern biology.'' Hardly in keeping with NPOV. --SVTCobra 22:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

 * The quote is available from a variety of sources. Such as, this sympathetic one.

 * As for NPOV, creationism is NOT science. There is no validity to it or a flat Earth. There is a source for the statement it links to List of scientific societies rejecting intelligent design. You can also see Evidence of common descent or Level of support for evolution. You can't be "NPOV" with evolution denial, Holocaust denial, or AIDS denial because they are fringe beliefs (view Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/FAQ#Pseudoscience). Shown2233361 (talk) 23:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I just added two quotes from the United States National Academy of Sciences' statement on creationism as well. Shown2233361 (talk) 23:26, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

 * You just added more unsourced information, and there is still nothing in the Sources section. All information must be sourced per WN:CS. Also, this is not Wikipedia, so the results of votes there do not apply here. I do not believe in ID, but that doesn't mean I won't uphold WN:NPOV. The article, in my opinion, remains biased against Jindal. --SVTCobra 23:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Under sources, I added: "Science and Creationism". United States National Academy of Sciences, 2008, which are where the two statements came from. Did you miss that addition? Example: "The theory of evolution has become the central unifying concept of biology and is a critical component of many related scientific disciplines. In contrast, the claims of creation science lack empirical support and cannot be meaningfully tested. These observations lead to two fundamental conclusions: the teaching of evolution should be an integral part of science instruction, and creation science is in fact not science and should not be presented as such in science classes."
 * Science doesn't consider creationism valid per the NAS source and intelligent design was ruled to be creationism in court per the Dover source. Shown2233361 (talk) 23:31, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Science doesn't consider any religion valid. Wikinews is a news site. We should report that he said this. We should also report what people said in response. What Wikinews should not do is to begin to attack someone for what they said. If we had a story on the Pope, should we begin to list all the lack of evidence for a god? If we have an article about China and Tibet, should we lecture the readers that the Dalai Lama cannot be an incarnation of Tulku because science says it is not possible. I think not. --SVTCobra 23:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

 * It is not an attack nor is it about religion. He supports something that the scientific community discounts and the courts have ruled against. Considering he is close to signing a law similiar to one drafted by the ID community it has importance. That is what the article reports. As for responses: Jindal's genetics professor speaks out.Shown2233361 (talk) 23:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought the argument was that ID amounts to creationism and thus religion. Further it is perfectly fine to mention that he is about to sign a law, similiar to one that was struck down in federal court and link to it. It is not OK to dedicate the majority of the article cover this case. --SVTCobra 00:04, 18 June 2008 (UTC) (meaning the Kitzmiller/Dover case)

 * Its not about religion. As his comments and the title reveal, he considers ID/creationism to be science. That it is not science (as noted by Dover and the NAS) is important context that gives meaning to his statements in pending legislation. That a federal court has ruled ID = creationism and the scientific community considers creationism = not science is important to any discussion about ID and science education.

 * Also that he wants ID/creationism taught in schools when the Dover judge ruled against that is equally important to the article.

 * I trimmed the Dover part back per your comments. Shown2233361 (talk) 00:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the trimming, Shown2233361. I still disagree with you that it is Wikinews job to debate or "truth-find" statements made by politicians or other public figures. It is simply our job to report what they said. We don't debate the newsmakers, we report on it. That is a huge distinction between Wikipedia and Wikinews. --SVT'Cobra 00:21, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Inaccurate statement
At the bottom, it states that Gov. Jindal is a possible choice to be John McCain's vice president. This statement should be changed to past tense or removed entirely. Alx xlA (talk) 19:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

 * If you check the date on this article, it was accurate at the time. After about 24 hours no new information is added, see WN:ARCHIVE. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:18, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Cuba reforms wage laws to pay workers based on amount done

End of Communism?
Does this mark the end of Cuban Communism?

I consider myself a Communist, I like the idea of everybody working for the common good, and making the same amount of money, etc. I know to a lot of people this sounds ridiculous, but hey, that's just the way I feel on the issue.

I was hoping that Cuba would be able to pull itself out of the dirt, and make a good name for itself as a Communist nation. I think this marks the end of Communism in Cuba.

--888gavin (talk) 23:13, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

 * I also like the idea, but don't consider myself a communist because the sstem is too open to exploitation and by humans who are simply greedy by nature, and indeend by the politicians who run it. I actually think this reform by Cuba may help make this fairer, but there's a danger it will go too far. Managers are already getting too much.

 * Perhaps one day someone will show me a method of implementation that works under a leader I can trust, and then they have my vote. Until then, I'll just focus on getting Gordon Brown the Hell out of my country, and another shot for the Conservastives... Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 06:28, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


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The colours of the image has been updated so the legends need to be updated correspondingly. /Lokal Profil (talk) 23:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
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Comments:House approves Senate amended economic stimulus package

I just wonder where all this money is coming from !! Has our government borrowed it ? Another big payment with interest ? Our government is so wasteful with our tax dollars, I wish Washington would WAKE UP, and STOP this trying to FIX all other countries, JUST START AT HOME !!!


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Boston Celtics win 17th NBA championship

June 18, 2008

After 22 years of waiting, the Boston Celtics have won their 17th National Basketball Association championship, adding to the 16 that already hang from the rafters of the TD Banknorth Garden and before that, the old Boston Garden.

The Celtics won the game 131 to 92 and won the series with 4 wins over their old rivals, the Los Angeles Lakers' 2. The game was highlighted by Ray Allen's seven 3-pointers, tying the NBA Finals single game record, as well as the Celtics 18 steals, easily a single game record also. Paul Pierce has been chosen series MVP.

The season is noted for the biggest single-season turnaround in NBA history as the last Celtics season was considered to be one of the worst in franchise history.


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Please change the image to Flag of Hong Kong.svg on Commons, here and at Hong Kong Chief Executive Tung Chee-hwa officially resigns then delete the local version. Adambro (talk) 07:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
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Associated Press goes after bloggers for copyright violation

June 25, 2008 The Associated Press (AP) news agency has come under fire from the community after issuing a number of DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) takedown notices against bloggers who have used extracts from AP articles.

Quoting from correspondence surrounding the takedown notices, a Drudge Retort contributor claims in his personal blog that not only is AP asserting that the quotes are a copyright violation, but that they also constitute '"hot news" misappropriation.

Wikinews contacted several people in an effort to get to the bottom of this issue. , one of the copublishers of the Drudge Report blog, brought Wikinews up to speed on the DMCA notices. The takedown notices were received by email on June 10, he said. This, in and of itself, constitutes an improper filing. The letter of the law requires that a DMCA notice be sent to the appropriate party by recorded postal delivery.

Cadenhead remains unaware of any other bloggers who have been similarly notified, and says receiving seven takedown notices left him "dumbfounded". Previous Drudge Retort interaction with AP's legal team had seen AP complain about people posting entire reports in the comments section of the site. These were quickly removed and users warned that this was inappropriate and indisputably a copyright violation, says Cadenhead.

Cadenhead goes on to discuss how blogs, and other social networking sites, are of benefit to mainstream media such as AP. He describes how the posting of excerpts and quotes helps drive visitors to the sites where the full article text can be found, "MSNBC publishes its news videos with an "embed" button that makes it possible to share them on blogs. If NBC sees the value of that, print-based media should recognize the benefits of encouraging the link-and-excerpt culture of bloggers. I heard on NPR yesterday that 20 percent of the New York Times web traffic is referred by blogs." There may be a longer-term strategy behind these actions from the Associated Press. A report on ChannelWeb indicates that AP wants to charge for excerpts of their online content. The pricing schedule reported on this site starts at US$12.50 for quoting five to twenty-five words and goes up to US$100.00 for over 251 words. This, a challenge to the very existence of fair use, is to be managed by the company operating as a copyright protection service. goes into this in some depth on the site, commenting that those who inform on violators may receive up to one million dollar rewards. In addition, the "no disparagement" clause is highlighted, whereby AP reserves the right to revoke the license where they are unhappy with the usage.

"Welcome to a world in which you won’t be able to effectively criticize the press, because you’ll be required to pay to quote as few as five words from what they publish," Doctorow wrote.

The controversy provoked by these moves from AP, apparently, prompted them to schedule a meeting with the Media Bloggers Association to hammer out a set of guidelines.

The Associated Press, following criticism from bloggers over an AP assertion of copyright, plans to meet this week with a bloggers' group to help form guidelines under which AP news stories could be quoted online.

Jim Kennedy, the AP's director of strategic planning, said Monday that he planned to meet Thursday with Robert Cox, president of the Media Bloggers Association, as part of an effort to create standards for online use of AP stories by bloggers that would protect AP content without discouraging bloggers from legitimately quoting from it.

The Associated Press case seems to rely on the 1918 U.S. Supreme Court case, where, following INS being prevented from using allied telegraph lines following unfavourable reporting, they used AP reports as a source to rewrite in their own words. With one vigorously dissenting justice, the case was closed in AP's favour, with the INS usage described as "misappropriation". Today sees a similar battle played out where bloggers and other citizen journalists simply do not have the resources to place their own reporters at the scene and must excerpt or rewrite from sources such as AP.

According to Michael Kwun, a senior staff attorney with the EFF, one of their blog entries describes the action as biting the hand that feeds them. Kwun questioned whether the 1918 ruling could still be considered "good law", that changes in Federal law likely rendered it inapplicable, and that there was only a small chance that at state level this could still be applied.

Despite several attempts to get input from the Associated Press, they had not responded to Wikinews at time of publication. Attempts to contact Reuters and the BBC for input also went unanswered.

On June 20, Cadenhead released a statement saying that after receiving additional information from AP, he is "glad" the dispute is over. AP said it had a "constructive exchange" with a "number of interested parties in the blogging community" and will seek to continue dialogue.

"I think it would be helpful for bloggers and users of social news sites to know what the AP believes to be fair use of their copyrighted work," said Wade Duchene, attorney for Cadenhead. "I hope that any guidelines that are issued are not interpreted as an agreed definition of fair use."

I think AP and other media organizations should focus on how to encourage bloggers to link their stories in the manner they like, rather than hoping their lawyers can rebottle the genie of social news.


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Original Reporting
I am going for original reporting content in this story, so it may take a day or more to bring it all together.

I have emailed Jay Walsh and Mike Godwin of the WMF for comment; Eddan Katz of the EFF, and Darren Waters, who is the BBC's technology editor. I've also left a comment on one of the blogs listed as a source with my email address asking one of the affected bloggers to contact me. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:38, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Darren Waters: Out of office until 23rd. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Emailed Becky Hogge of the UK's Open Rights Group. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Rogers Cadenhead, who received the DMCA notices got in touch with me. Swapped a couple of emails and content is now in the article. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Still no response from info@ap.org. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * AP emailed again. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Questions emailed to the Media Bloggers Association's contact address. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Mike Godwin declined to comment in his legal capacity due to potential COI. He gave me a new contact at the EFF who I have just emailed. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:44, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Emailed Ty Trippet at Reuters for their take on this. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Has left Reuters. Mail forwarded to Sophie Brendel per autoresponder. No response today is likely as UK based. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Images
For lack of free images of Cadenhead, I added an image of Doctorow, but perhaps it calls too much attention to him. Remove if you like. --SVTCobra 22:06, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The way it is placed in the article is most appropriate, and he is sufficiently notable for it to be an appropriate use. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Do not publish
I am happy to see this bumped up a day or two more to wait on responses to emails I have sent to the EFF and others. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:22, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Quote
I don't often see us quoting chunks of news articles from other organisations, why are we doing in this case? Adambro (talk) 05:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * For this particular case I think it is misleading to descibe the document as an article, it is really a press release. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 50-100 words used - you owe AP $25. (Obviously you do not as it is clear fair use, although the concept seems to be too complicated for AP). Anonymous101 (talk) 16:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Calling AP - notes
I tried to call AP to get a response and got bounced around their phone system something terrible. There was nobody in the legal department to talk to me and I ended up forced to leave a voicemail. I've asked them to email me, but I don't hold out much hope. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:26, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Meeting with the Media Bloggers Association
This quote is from last week: "Jim Kennedy, the AP's director of strategic planning, said Monday that he planned to meet Thursday with Robert Cox, president of the Media Bloggers Association"

Doesn't that mean that the meeting would have taken place already? If so we should include it in this article. If it was cancelled/postponed we should mention that. --SVTCobra 21:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I got no response from the MBA or AP; not seen any other coverage. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:40, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Are you saying these were hard to find?
 * I am just asking. --SVTCobra 00:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It would be easier to work them in than be a dick --Brian McNeil / talk 00:22, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Excuse me?? I added the sources to the article and added content from them to the artice. So I did work them in. But I specifically asked about what happened with meeting and you said there was no coverage. You said you saw no coverage. I guess I should have just called you lazy. Telling someone "Don't be a dick" is something of a dick-move in itself, as it says on the page you so kindly linked to. --SVTCobra 00:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup, "don't be a dick" is dickish, sorry. My only excuse was that it was late. We did get congratulated on a good story by Jay Walsh, he felt the piece is well balanced and well written. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Excuse me?? I added the sources to the article and added content from them to the artice. So I did work them in. But I specifically asked about what happened with meeting and you said there was no coverage. You said you saw no coverage. I guess I should have just called you lazy. Telling someone "Don't be a dick" is something of a dick-move in itself, as it says on the page you so kindly linked to. --SVTCobra 00:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup, "don't be a dick" is dickish, sorry. My only excuse was that it was late. We did get congratulated on a good story by Jay Walsh, he felt the piece is well balanced and well written. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


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you should be blocked the way you talk like that --PyroAlters (talk) 11:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

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User talk:156.34.58.42

I hope that you can forgive me for not knowing English so well. I will forgive you for being ignorant about so many things concerning Serbia and serbian people. You said yourselfe that Kosovo majority are Albanians. Do you think it would be posible if the Serbs were killing them for so long? Kosovo is the cradle of Serbian country,relligion and our national identity. The Serbs were the original habitants in Kosovo,untill the Albanians came. Do some reading in history,my son,and then spread love and understanding among people.

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Blue Coat and AT&T take parts of FOSI for Internet Security

June 18, 2008

Recently in Sunnyvale, CA, Blue Coat Systems and AT&T are confirmed to join the Family Online Safety Institute (FOSI), an international non-profit organization dedicated to identifying and promoting best practices, tools and methods for online safety.

A safety online experience should be established. Kids often spend most time on Internet surfing, but [their] parents often ignored critical awareness on risks of the Internet. To decrease risks, we encourages parents to notice on children's Internet activity and educate them about the risks they face online to protect themselves.

Apart from AT&T, Blue Coat recently announced "K9 Web Protection" software and promoted "Community Outreach Program" for parents to strengthen Internet security on kids. In addition, Laurie Coffin, Director of Marketing Communications at Blue Coat, was confirmed to join FOSI's board of directors to assist in governing FOSI's strategic direction and initiatives.


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Mozilla sets record for most software downloads in 24 hours

June 18, 2008 Mozilla's new browser Firefox 3.0 has been downloaded over 8 million times in 24 hours. The Mozilla Foundation has encouraged users worldwide to download their latest browser in an attempt to enter the Guinness Book of World Records, with what is referred to as Download Day 2008. The target of five million downloads was reached long before the 24 hour period was over.

The 24 hour download session ended at 18:16 UTC on June 18th, one hour later than the original time of 17:00. This delay is due to technical problems which included the servers being overwhelmed. For a while after the specified launch time, the Firefox website linked to a download for Firefox 2.

Over 2.88 million of the downloads were from the European Union; 2.56 million were from the United States.

The unofficial, unaudited final number of downloads during the 24 hour marathon was 8,320,331. This figure still needs to be checked by the Guinness Book of Records for validity.

If the unofficial figure is accurate, almost 100 copies of the application were downloaded every second.

John Lilly, the CEO of Mozilla commented on the release of Firefox 3. “We’re really proud of Firefox 3 and it just shows what a committed, energized global community can do when they work together,” he said.


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Original
Refers to:
 * email sent to people signed up for Mozilla updates
 * My attempts to download Firefix 3 after the specified launch time resulting in Firefox 2 being downloaded. Anonymous101 (talk) 15:42, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Question
How can a new record be broken? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.74 (talk)

 * I agree - you break an existing record, you set a new one. The article needs a rename. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 23:31, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

 * ✅ renamed page. Anonymous101 (talk) 06:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Except that the sources said this was a new record being set. I've done the rename. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 11:42, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Jumping the gun
I hope I didn't jump the gun with the "unofficial final figure", the number I posted was taken down at 18:20 UTC, ie. four minutes after the end of Download Day 2008. However, for some strange reason the counter still keeps going now. According to the site the official figure will be out "within days".George horvath83 (talk) 18:28, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the unofficial final figure was a good addition. Anonymous101 (talk) 18:31, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

sorry... i wrote my comment on the wrong page... i said 14,000,000 is wrong for download.com ive changed it to over 70,000 which is the accurate figure. 14,000,000 is the overall downloads for firefox since it was first uploaded my the mirror download.com years ago. 82.3.127.57 18:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for correcting the figure, I thought it seemed a bit high. Anonymous101 (talk) 18:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


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User talk:62.93.47.114

Hello there. Thank you for contributing to wikinews. Unfortunately Wikinews does not accept biographical articles, we are only for news (current events).. Other projects exist that do accept biographies exist, would probably be a better place for it. Wikipedia is a fairly popular example accepting biographies for some people, but they have very stringent standards for whom they deem important enough for inclusion. If the person who the article is about meets them, I would suggest moving the article over there. If not, there are probably other places with more lenient standards for inclusion you could try. Search around in google.

Thanks for your understanding, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Anonymous101 (talk) 15:52, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

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Euro 2008 - Group D - Greece vs Spain Russia vs Sweden

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Many incompatibilities with previous add-ons and extensions. I am all for helping Firefox break a few records, but I would also like to continue to have a confortable browsing experience, which now i do not exactly because my add-ons dont work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.22.174.146 (talk)
 * Most of the addons I use are working fine. Have you tried looking for updates? Only two of the 17 addons I use won't work. Anonymous101 (talk) 17:14, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

download.com didnt get 14,000,000 downloads today... thats the overall for all the time sicne they first uploaded firefox whatever version it may be. thats quite misleading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.127.57 (talk)

its actually 70,000 downloads from download.com
 * That was a mistake in the article, Thanks for correcting it. Anonymous101 (talk) 18:42, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm downloading it right now. --66.229.25.248 19:37, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Firefox rocks!
I use it since it appeared (back in 2004, I guess), and never went back... It's the best browser in the World... And with the correct set of plugins, there are no ads to bug you either. Truly amazing, and it deserves the results.

I was one of the downloads
Yup, I helped. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.207.88.141 (talk) 22:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Reviews?
I don't want to commit myself to a long dial-up download, or happen to dl a beta. So, how is it? Fephisto (talk) 14:15, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Its great, a lot better than Firefox 2 (which was itself better than any other browser) Anonymous101 (talk) 14:45, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Firefox: Better than Internet 7.0
Sorry Microsoft, but you guys just can't beat Mozilla with their superior Internet browser. Good job Mozilla, you'll have really outdone yourselves for the 3.0 browser. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.49.154.5 (talk) 17:51, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments from feedback form - "YAY Wikinews!"
YAY Wikinews! —168.184.220.4 (talk) 19:07, 7 May 2010 (UTC)


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Fair use in Wikinews interviews Finnish 'Rock 'N' Troll' band Kivimetsän Druidi

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I was put in contact with the band by their European manager. All conversation done via email. The information from the source is that the band got signed and about the upcoming release; all other info is OR obtained via email or from the band's official site. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Improvements
editprotected Van der Hoorn (talk) 11:49, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * "independant" => "independent"
 * There are some occasions where the bullets are not indented out properly, because *: is used instead of :*
 * ✅ fixed some other spelling errors as well. --SVTCobra 22:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The bullets of the first answers are still lined out incorrect. Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk) 09:23, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ --SVTCobra 01:35, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


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Mozilla breaks new record for most downloads in 24 hours
Hi,

Just wanted to thank you for your good work at Mozilla breaks new record for most downloads in 24 hours,

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Welcome
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Comments:Seattle homeless advocates arrested for blocking intersection

I don't see why some people think removing homeless camps is a bad thing. If anything it helps the people living in the camps by encouraging them to get a job so they can live somewhere. When you let them stay you only help them to remain homeless. If they have nowhere to live they are more likley to to attempt to improve their life by getting a job,quiting bad habits etc.


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Government Accountability Office requests rerun of US Air Force tanker bid

July 2, 2008

The Government Accountability Office on June 18 called for a re-run of the bidding for the U.S. Air Force $40 billion tanker contract, citing major flaws in the procurement process. This imperils the Northrop Grumman and EADS North America plan to assemble the planes in Mobile, Alabama.

When the Air Force selected Los Angeles based Northrop Grumman on February 29 to build the aircraft, Boeing challenged the award in a formal protest before the GAO, claiming the evaluation was skewed towards Northrop.

The GAO upheld Boeing's protest, though not all of their individual claims were upheld.

"Our review of the record led us to conclude that the Air Force had made a number of significant errors that could have affected the outcome of what was a close competition between Boeing and Northrop Grumman," said Michael R. Golden, the GAO's managing associate general counsel for procurement law.

The GAO issued a non-binding recommendation that the Air Force re-open the competition, allow the competitors to submit revised bids, and completely re-evaluate the new bids. This process could take a year or more to complete.

The Air Force has 60 days to respond to the GAO.

Reaction
Northrop said that they needed time to consider the ruling, but their spokesman, Randy Belote, said "we continue to believe that Northrop Grumman offered the most modern and capable tanker for our men and women in uniform."

Boeing supporters on Capital Hill urged the Air Force to scrap the contract and start a new competition as soon as possible.

"I believe the Air Force should set aside the agreement it improperly reached with EADS/Northrop Grumman and we should proceed expeditiously to build the best aircraft - the Boeing KC-767" said U.S. Rep. Norm Dicks, D-Wash, in whose state the Boeing aircraft would be built. Alabama politicians were disappointed and surprised by the GAO's ruling. Northop and EADS were to assemble their tankers in Alabama at a new assembly plant at Mobile's Brookley Industrial Complex.

"I don't believe this ruling signals the end of Alabama's hopes for building tankers for the Air Force," said U.S. Rep. Jo Bonner, R-Mobile. "Like everyone else, I look forward to hearing from the GAO and meeting with the Air Force on how we move forward. For the sake of our airmen and women, we must find a way to do so quickly."

Main Points of the GAO evaluation:
The 69 page GAO decision was not made public, due to sensitive information about the aircraft, but a 3 page press release stated the main points of the ruling:

 * The Air Force did not correctly apply its own criteria when assessing the aircraft.
 * They miscalculated the costs associated with the Boeing tanker, and incorrectly concluded that Northrop's would be cheaper.
 * They wrongly gave Northrop's tanker extra credit for exceeding key performance objectives.
 * They did not back up their claim that the Northrop tanker could refuel all current Air Force fixed-wing aircraft.
 * They told Boeing that its aircraft met a key performance objective, before deciding this was only partially true.
 * The Air Force "unreasonably" favored Northrop after the company refused to help set up maintenance depots within two years of the first airplane delivery.


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Talk:Blue Coat and AT&T take parts of FOSI for Internet Security

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Where does the Brent Olson quote come from? It is not in either source. Also, it has terrible grammar like it was translated from English to Chinese and back to English. This article does not mention any OR. --SVTCobra 23:01, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You may misunderstand..... This is not OR and this is written only in English, in addition, I didn't wrote this article in Chinese. Its quote was descriped from AT&T's news information, not Blue Coat. But the only one thing I can confirm that the two enterprises have become the member of FOSI. Brock contact... 04:22, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


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Bush calls for US offshore oil exploration

June 19, 2008

United States President George W. Bush delivered a speech Wednesday in which he urged the United States Congress to end a ban on oil exploration off of US shores. Currently there is both an executive order and a Congressional moratorium against such exploration. The Congress issued its moratorium in 1981. In 1989, President George H.W. Bush issued an executive order in the wake of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.

President Bush said that "we should expand American oil production by increasing access to the Outer Continental Shelf, or OCS. Experts believe that the OCS could produce about 18 billion barrels of oil. That would be enough to match America's current oil production for almost ten years."

"I know the Democratic leaders have opposed some of these policies in the past," President Bush said. "Now that their opposition has helped drive gas prices to record levels, I ask them to reconsider their positions. If Congressional leaders leave for the Fourth of July recess without taking action, they will need to explain why $4-a-gallon gasoline is not enough incentive for them to act."

Senator John McCain, who is the presumptive nominee for the Republican Party, said on Tuesday that he favors offshore drilling.

Senator Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader from the Democratic Party, said: "This week’s flip-flop on offshore oil drilling by President Bush and Senator John McCain is nothing more than a cynical campaign ploy that will do nothing to lower energy prices, and represents another big giveaway to oil companies already making billions in profits."

"It's cynical to say that we can drill our way out of this mess," said Athan Manuel, of the environmental group Sierra Club. "The solution to $4 gas is not off our coast."

A recent poll conducted by Reuters/Zogby showed that about 60% of Americans support more oil drilling and refinery construction, yet nearly the same percentage also say they are in favor of conservation.

"We will take pressure off gas prices over time by expanding the amount of American-made oil and gasoline. We will strengthen our national security by reducing our reliance on foreign oil. We will benefit American workers by keeping our nation competitive in the global economy — and by creating good jobs in construction, and engineering, and refining, maintenance, and many other areas," said Bush in his speech.


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Baghdad bombing
What a terrible news...It seems there is no ending. But one thing is certain. Bible prophesies are being fulfilled in our days. Matthews 24:3-7.

over 50 dead after iraq bombing
why does the war still go on especially in bagdad. im sick of it-204.184.212.253 18:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


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