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Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker

November 17, 2008

Pirates have seized control of the Sirius Star, a Saudi-owned oil tanker off the coast of Kenya and are steering her towards Somalia, reports the US Navy. The ship was captured roughly 830 kilometers south-east of Mombasa and is reportedly heading towards the Somali port of Eyl. The oil tanker was carrying over 2 million barrels of oil at the time of her capture, and was on her way to the United States via Cape Town. Reuters claimed that news of the attack raised crude oil prices around the world.

Vela International Marine, the ship's owner, has said the Sirius Star is fully loaded. The oil could be worth up to US$100 million. The US Navy reports that all 25 crew from the United Kingdom, Croatia, the Philippines, Poland, and Saudi Arabia are 'safe'.

The area off the East coast of Africa has seen a significant amount of piracy. In 2007, one-third of the world's piracy incidents occurred in this region.

Hijacking off the coast of Somalia has become increasingly common over the last decade. Over the last year multiple countries have expressed concern or committed their navies to dealing with Somali pirates. Most recently, South Korea has announced intentions to send one of its destroyers after five South Koreans were kidnapped in a Japanese cargo ship hijacking.

The Sirius Star is the largest ship captured by pirates in the area to date. This also sets a record for the farthest from the shore that pirates have struck.

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--PatrickFlaherty (talk) 20:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

If I'm not mistaken you are the first deity to join this project. I hope your noodly appendages will do a good job gathering news for us. JoshuaZ (talk) 21:18, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * But not the first written about. (See Nebraska Senator sues God).  Welcome!  Cary Bass (talk) 21:22, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Welcome oh avatar of the Mighty One. Gopher65talk 21:23, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thankyou xD My choice of username usually gets comments whenever I log onto a new project, but this is excellent! I will try my best to get some pasta related news in here somewhere... The Flying Spaghetti Monster (talk) 21:24, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

The wikinews template
This is one of my persistent nagging points — dates. It may be an Americanised ordering currently used, but being long-established it is - to me - important it be consistent everywhere there is a "|date=" parameter in a template like this.

My reasoning is that if, at some point in the future, any programmed processing is done based on the value in the source or wikinews templates, all occurrences be as consistent as possible.

I think I had to fix this on the Astronaut's daughter story, but I also noticed it on your user page. Obviously non-urgent, and you aren't obliged to comply, but I thought it worth explaining why stick to the format so consistently. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:58, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand entirely :) What is the correct format exactly, for future reference? Scratch that I get you now. The Flying Spaghetti Monster (talk) 21:34, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

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Talk:Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker

Note about original reporting
I estimated 120 million by taking the current crude oil price of slightly over $58, multiplied by 2 million and rounded up. JoshuaZ (talk) 20:48, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I reduced it to 100 million (after first increasing it to 200M due to bad math). My reason is that the OPEC basket price (which reflects Saudi crude better than the West-Texas price on NYMEX) is below $50/barrel. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Publish?
Do you think it's ready to publish yet? It has gone through a few revisions, has a few reliable sources and looks good. All it needs is the external review... The Flying Spaghetti Monster (talk) 22:01, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Yes, we need to wait for an uninvolved user to stop by and decide it can be published. JoshuaZ (talk) 22:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

POV issues
One line of the story reads, "The area off the east coast of Africa has a serious piracy problem." However, this is clearly a value judgment. Not everybody would consider all the piracy a problem. (I'd say that the piracy is indeed a problem, but it could be argued from a radical environmentalist that the piracy's disruption of oil shipping is a good thing.)

Maybe a better way to phrase it would be to say that "The area off the east coast of Africa has experienced a large amount of piracy over the past several years." Cielomobile (talk) 00:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

 * I changed the wording to comply with WN:NPOV, though I didn't go with your exact wording. See if you find it satisfactory. --SVTCobra 01:04, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. You might consider adding in some sort of temporal qualifier like "lately", but it's not a big deal. Cielomobile (talk) 16:39, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

pic?
a ship similar to the one that was sunk? the lead story has a pic of the real ship maybe that can go in the article as well just throwing it out there. --71.254.102.66 01:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well it wasn't sunk. But yes, I get your point. However, the pictures of the actual ship were not available when this article was written. They will be in the follow-up articles. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:42, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

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CERN says repairs to LHC particle accelerator to cost US$21 million

November 19, 2008

The European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) said on Monday that repairing the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) will cost up to €16.6 million or US$21 million.

The LHC, which is the world's largest and highest-energy particle accelerator, is located near the border of France and Switzerland and crosses the border four times. It has a diameter of 27 km (17 miles). It is designed to simulate the conditions shortly after the Big Bang, but it broke down on September 19 due to an electrical failure.

Most of the repair time is covered by previously scheduled maintenance time, and CERN originally hoped to have the machine up and running again by early May. However, CERN officials now believe that it may take until the end of July or longer.

CERN spokesman James Gillies said: "If we can do it sooner, all well and good. But I think we can do it realistically by early summer."

The machine operates at temperatures colder than outer space and must be gradually warmed up for experts to assess the damage, causing much of the delay. CERN expects the repair cost to fall within the annual budget for the project.


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User:The Flying Spaghetti Monster

Hello I am The Flying Spaghetti Monster on all Wikimedia projects.

I spend most of my time on the Simple English Wikipedia where I am an administrator. I also have accounts on various other Wikis but the main one out of those is the English Wikipedia

I am currently studying for my A levels and hope to go into journalism as a future career. My main fields of interest include, but are not limited to, the sciences and sports, in particular space travel, physics and and football. But I am happy to write about anything really. Thanks for your time, The Flying  Spaghetti Monster!

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ETA chief arrested in southern France

November 18, 2008

The suspected military chief of the Basque nationalist group ETA was arrested in a pre-dawn raid on Monday in the town of Cauterets in Southern France. Mikel Garikoitz Aspiazu Rubina, alias Txeroki (English: Cherokee), was arrested along with a woman who has not been named. He was arrested in a joint operation by Spanish and French police. He is being held in France in connection with the killing of two Spanish Civil Guards in Capbreton, France, December 1, 2007.

Spanish Prime Minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero said, "Today Eta is weaker and Spanish democracy is stronger."

"The arrest shows the unfailing determination of the police forces in the battle against any form of terrorism. It also illustrates once again the admirable collaboration between France and Spain in the fight against Basque terrorism," read a statement from French Interior Minister Michèle Alliot-Marie's office.

The ETA organization is blamed by authorities for the deaths of 820 people since it began campaigning for a separate Basque state in the 1960s.

According to CNN, Txeroki is thought to have joined the ETA in 2000, rising to become the military chief in 2004.

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Hi and welcome to Wikinews. Your username is unacceptable as it can cause offense and I would highly recommend changing it. You may create a new account or ask to be renamed. Thank you. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 22:41, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I've blocked your account since it's a unacceptable username. If you wish to change your name, then we can unblock you so you can make a request. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 14:56, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

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User:DragonFire1024/archive August - October 2008

FlaggedRevs
If you have not already seen this, please look, comment, and vote both here and on bugzilla. Further assistance such as contact information for Google would be a very useful detail to share and help in petitioning for a listing in their news index. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:53, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Can you edit Republic of Molossia announces new customs station?
Hi DragonFire1024. I wanted to edit this article, but it's protected. Can you edit it for me?

Here is what I need done: Tag can be removed. Doing a bit of cleanup.

Thanks. Calebrw (talk) 16:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Tag removed. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:50, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Need help
Link to prep page is here: Cirt (talk) 04:10, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Story preparation/Wikinews investigates claim McCain plagiarized speech from Wikipedia.

Thanks
for the welcome! JeremyMcCracken (talk) 01:33, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. Happy editing/writing :-) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:34, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Former Georgian Minister accuses Saakashvili of war mongering
I steered clear of that one, because it is so contentious as to what is actually happening. It will be interesting to see if we get a shit-storm of comments or an edit-war. Whatever happens, I doubt it will be silence. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:41, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually i have another (general) question, which however is related to this article as well. What's the policy for extending/correcting an article after it has been published? Since I'm new to wikinews, I'd rather ask here before making directly any changes myself. All the changes/improvements made to my original text are ok, however there is 1 reformulation that is strictly speaking not correct. I described the problem on the talk page of the article. regards--Kmhkmh (talk) 12:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Style
Not that it matters much since it doesn't affect anything, but is putting Publish at the bottom the approved style? I didn't know that - will do it in the future if it's the "official" way. Sherurcij 02:22, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know if its official, but its the style we have been using for as long as I can remember. I guess since everyone sees it at the bottom, it makes it easier to review I suppose. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:23, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, cheers Sherurcij 02:24, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Either way, "self-publishing" is now a no-no, if not by policy, then by practice. --SVTCobra 02:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I don't know how OR can be "reviewed" other than C/E... DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Quelle surprise, zomg not good enough unless you photocopy your notes and send them to me! from an administrator -- can I repeat that this is a ludicrous policy for accredited users who have no history of problems? What's the point of sending reporters out to locations if everything has to be bottlenecked through two or three administrators anyways? You can phone the family, you can phone the court, either of them will confirm a WN reporter named Joshua was there - both will also confirm I am somewhat regular in attendance at these things. Can I ask if there's anything realistically halting the article from production? I'm out of town from now till the weekend, so solving this over the next twenty minutes would be appreciated. It'd be somewhat foolish to wait a week to report the news, when thusfar WN would be one of the very first to report this. Sherurcij 02:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well what you said above are good notes...minus the other stuff. I tend to agree with you though. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's insane that a rant counts as "notes", but I'll copy it to the talk page and change it back to Publish-status; there's absolutely no reason "self-publishing OR" is a no-no, especially now that we're using the "stable versions" idea (which seems like a great idea, this'll be my first experience with it - but I'm hopeful (speaking of which, I assume you're on the list of reviewers who can push it through?) Sherurcij 02:34, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes...assuming that it/they (articles) meets standards. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:40, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I fixed the only error I saw, an unclear pronoun leading into a paragraph; if there's anything beyond that, please let me know in the next 5-10 minutes so I can see it published before I head off. Sherurcij 02:41, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

 * To logged-out users at least, it's still displaying the develop tag -- I assume this is related somehow to the stable versions? I promise I'm almost done nagging ;) But four days of my time, plus two days writing -- I figure I can bug you for ten minutes :P Sherurcij 02:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I am not sure what that mean. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I did some reviewing...check now. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:58, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thank you. I will now retreat back to my Fortress of Solitude where I am the only king with which I must deal ;) Thanks for the patience, hopefully we can sort out future issues as easily. Accredition should grant a certain amount of independence to reporters (especially since we're not even allowed to call ourselves WN reporters...) on their articles, even if that means tightening up the policy on accredition. Sherurcij 03:03, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

4:th lead
I see you working with the leads. Suggesting Former Georgian Minister accuses Saakashvili of war mongering to be 4:th lead as great effort from many wikinewsies made it to a good article. I cant edit the leads of some reason as they is semiprotected. international (talk) 19:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Or perhaps making that one the third lead and this one the fourth, US Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones dies at age 58. The Mind's Eye (talk) 20:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to. international (talk) 20:21, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Guys keeps adding to old story
Could you deal with this guy, or archive the page or something: Ceasefire signed in Georgian-Russian conflict. I can't revert anymore without breaking the three revert rule. Gopher65talk 19:44, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Hiya
Haven't talked to you in a while - what's up? Thunderhead 20:03, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nothing exciting really...Hot weather here and trying to keep WN updated. The usual stuff :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 20:04, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Same here, it's getting better though. Been raining a lot here. I'm trying to get back into the swing of things here. Missed it! Thunderhead 20:05, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Been hot, humid and hazy here. Yeah I am trying to get back into things too as during the week I don't have a lot of time for WN. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 20:07, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Review: a new thing?
I do a lot of mostly grammar, punctuation, or syntax edits, (sometimes under 209.137.182.35) and this is the first time I noticed the "draft" thing, where the edits have to be verified by an "established user" before being published. Is this a new thing, or am I just completely out of the loop? Keep up the good work! Matt White (talk) 18:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You are correct in that this is a new thing. This is an attempt to have an editorial process. Some users, trusted regular contributers have tools which allow them to "flag" revisions in the history, that are legit edits. The review process if so that an article can pass certain criteria before publish...example: Is it newsworthy? Are the links correct? Is the information factual? When tagged with review, that tells the selected editors/reviewers that its ready for editorial review to check those things and move it to publish. Here is our draft olicy on this. Please note that is is not finished. Reviewing articles. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Pastor article.
You have a revision to your article, but I wanted you to accept it before I flagged it as reviewed. —Calebrw (talk) 15:09, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Georgia article.
I agree that with the other person. Those issues should be addressed in depth before returning to publish status. —Calebrw (talk) 17:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The facts cannot be changed. Look at his speech and compare to the revision as of July 24 and onward. Whats there is there, and the facts are not disputable. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:00, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome
Thanks for the welcome. I'm hoping to become a somewhat semi editor here. I've been using wikipedia for awhile and thought wikinews might be interesting to work on. This is first wiki that I've used that has flagged revisions, so I'm wondering how I could get bumped up to editor status? Thanks again for the welcome --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 02:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Just become an established user. Write some news articles, get to know the place and what not. At the moment its really experimental. Here is a start to explain it in a nut shell: Flagged revisions. Happy editing, and don't hesitate to ask for help. :-} DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:07, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Wiknews reports entry
I'm not sure who is in charge of the Wikinews reports. I fixed some grammatical and style issues on the campaign editing article. They should possibly get imported over to http://wikinewsreports.blogspot.com/2008/08/staffs-for-us-presidential-candidates.html. JoshuaZ (talk) 17:31, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

HMCS Toronto in Operation NANOOK
Hello there. Thank you for your review of the article Talk:HMCS Toronto in Arctic which has moved to Operation NANOOK 2008 travels through uncharted waters. Did I pin a better title, and intro on the article? I'm very much a newbie...This is my second news article, and my first was a collaboration effort between several folks. Kind Regards SriMesh | talk  02:20, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Arecibo
You asked for information about Arecibo Observatory. I'd be happy to answer any questions if you still have some.

-Mike (nolan) (at) (naic) (dot) (edu) MikeyNolan (talk) 15:23, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Lead sentence
The Pakistan story's lead is missing the T in The. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 04:38, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * OOpps...fixed :-P DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:41, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

RE: Palin
I'm looking into the Palin/Pregnancy/Wikipedia thing. Anonymous101talk 19:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

PS: Thanks fro adding News agencies suggest that campaign operative for Republican Party edited article on vice presidential nominee to the blog. Anonymous101talk 19:40, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

PPS: You may want to change the title of the post to something that says that it is not confirmed to be a Operative for Republican Party. Anonymous101talk 19:41, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ and thanks for looking into WP...let me know even if you don't find anything. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:55, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Late edits
I noticed you sighting late edits that should have been removed (see history) --SVTCobra 13:34, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

This also looks interesting
. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 21:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting developments in the YouTube/DMCA story:, , , . Cirt (talk) 07:02, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I am not sure if I will have time to work on this article, but there certainly is a lot more to this story. Cirt (talk) 21:14, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed...I have contacted the EFF and YouTube...we wil see what if anything we get out of them. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:16, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

IRC
I'm contacting you via IRC. ;) Re: US presidential candidate John McCain now leads slightly in the polls —Calebrw (talk) 01:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

urgent review needed
pls see my comment reg. the Scientology video article. the article's headline claim appears to be usubstantiated. –Doldrums(talk) 12:25, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Asia Earthquakes
Hi. As you can see I'm a new wikinews user (long time wikipedia user). I'm doing my best with the earthquake article but I'm probably not following all the rules. Any help you can offer would be much appreciated. Many Thanks. Abc30 (talk) 01:25, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

No worries about the edit conflict. Thank you! :) Abc30 (talk) 01:56, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Template:Vandal warning
Why did you revert all of my edit when part of it was correct? XxJoshuaxX (talk) 19:03, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I should have changed the picture back instead of an undo. My mistake. But the image tells it all. Vandals don't deserve pretty and nice calming images. Especially if they are regular vandals. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:39, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

See update 4, or see the AFP article (15 min old).LeadSongDog (talk) 04:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Last one I see from AFP was 2 hours ago. /DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, google's time stamp differs from AFP's. But other recents are also saying five crew, incl ITAR Tass  —Preceding unsigned comment added by LeadSongDog (talk • contribs) 05:11, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I can understand about not giving them nice things. However,the template says at the bottom "Please contribute to Wikinews in a constructive fashion instead.". If we want to encourage them to do that,we shouldn't scare them away at the same time by using an intimidating image. XxJoshuaxX (talk) 15:56, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Libertarian National Committee in a deadlock over how to address the growing Bob Barr controversies
DragonFire1024, could you do a peer review for the article above? Thanks. --WNewsReporter (talk) 00:59, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Micronation Principality of Vikesland makes history with space launch
Could you do a peer review for the article above? Thanks. --WNewsReporter (talk) 00:25, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Spell-checking leads
Please, get - or at least start to use - a spell checker that works in edit windows. You had an error on the O'Reilly lead that should have been caught. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:58, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews interviews Frank McEnulty, New American Independent Party nominee for President of the United States
Could you do a peer review for the article above? Thanks. --WNewsReporter (talk) 19:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Incomplete data may mislead doctors into overprescribing expensive medicines
Hi, I see you're editing actively. Could you see whether this is ready for publication? Thanks. :) Durova (talk) 01:47, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Oil skyrockets over US bailout plan
Review needed. -- DizzyStar (talk) 03:49, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll like to see where it says in that policy it says that. Another thing - I asked for that right in IRC this morning. -- DizzyStar (talk) 05:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

FYI
Followup on an article you worked on:. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 23:28, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * He's at it again:, . Cirt (talk) 09:06, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Not that I could find just yet. Cirt (talk) 20:28, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice job on the article. Cirt (talk) 07:07, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Re.:Tony Alamo
Why was my edits reverted? One states that Tony Alamo may self destruct, just like Jim Jones had done. Powerzilla (talk) 00:34, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

jason that review?
any chance of it being done today? --72.73.79.153 19:37, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure by someone who has not edited it. We are good about reviews so it should not be too long. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 19:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Hitler?
What? —Calebrw (talk) 20:16, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * someone had made the user name Adolf Hitler that person is now blocked says Jason AKA Dragonfire. --72.65.120.138 23:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Clash of cultures: Somali and Latino workers at U.S. meat packing plants
Hi, I noticed you're active. If you have the free time would you please review my newest article? Best wishes, Durova (talk) 10:55, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Photogrpahy for WNY
We've collaborated a little bit back. I'm a WP editor(primarily) in Western New York. If you need any photography in the area, let me know. I get around a bit and can do so. Not so much with the breaking news things, but more or less anything else, just drop me a line, preferably at my Wikipedia user page here. :) Cheers! Paranormal Skeptic (talk) 17:22, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) I will most definitely keep that in mind. Thanks again! DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 17:26, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Sitel_Recieves_Mysterious_Package
Can you check out Sitel_Recieves_Mysterious_Package. I think it's ready, and it's late breaking. Thanks. Paranormal Skeptic (talk) 18:04, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, another person reviewed it, and it's not up to snuff (Too short). Not sure what else I'll be able to do on it at this time, so it may die, but I'll try to grab more later if I can. Paranormal Skeptic (talk) 18:25, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

irc
I confirm that my freenode nick is DragonFire1024

Auvinen article
Jason, I did a little documentation to your latest scientology article. Could you please drop by on the collaboration page? Shutterbug (talk) 02:22, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

One to delete
Old redirect that can go: here. Hope this helps, Alex Muller  22:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


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ARRRRRR!!!!! (in no way do i support the actions of the pirates)

For real
if they are Pirates, why go their by the Coast? Why this ships don't have escorts? USA,NATO and even Russia has ships off Somalia. And they can't even protect a ship with tanks on broad let alone a oil tanker? --KDP3 (talk) 04:43, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

 * The excuse I read was that the deep sea off Kenya was not considered risky. The naval protection is concentrated round Somalia, many hundreds of miles from this hijack.  Clearly the pirates knew this as well. --InfantGorilla (talk) 21:15, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

 * 830 km is pretty far from the coast. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.140.9.97 (talk) 19:09, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

India is the superpower in the region and their navy is large enough. Cost to operate an navy operation far from home will be huge. RGDS Alexmcfire —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexmcfire (talk • contribs) 06:48, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Evil
Thoes are really mean pirates. They make cats look like good pets comparison optioned? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotty (talk • contribs) 19:40, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


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Thank God they arrested that murder.--KDP3 (talk) 04:39, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Nice mullet! --SVTCobra 17:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


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UN reports condemn West Bank settlement

November 21 2008 Speaking before the United Nations General Assembly, Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon summarized two reports conducted by the UN concluding that the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and other territories is illegal and "a breach of the fourth ." This is not the first time that the UN has condemned Israeli breach of the convention, but this comes at a crucial time when Israeli blockades of the, according to Al Jazeera and Democracy Now, are endangering approximately 750,000 Gazans who rely on UN and Israeli food aid for survival.

The statement by Ban Ki-Moon was made after the reissue of two reports condemning Israeli occupation, "The advisory opinion and a number of United Nations resolutions have all affirmed that Israel's practice of constructing settlements—in effect, the transfer by an occupying Power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies —constitutes a breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention," reads the first report: Israeli Settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including Jerusalem, and the occupied Syrian Golan. "In addition to the construction of the settlements, other activities related to settlements are also illegal. "These include the requisition of land, the destruction of houses and orchards, the construction of roads meant for the use of settlers only, the exploitation of natural resources within the occupied territory and the alteration of the character and status of the Occupied Palestinian Territory. The international community has also raised concerns regarding the depletion of natural resources as a result of settlements," the report continues.

Israeli Blockade of the Gaza Strip
According to Al Jazeera and other news sources, Israel has sealed off access to the Gaza Strip for aid workers and journalists since early November because of Palestinian rocket fire eminating from the area. 750,000 Gazans are without food or power at the moment, and some Palestinians see this as a violation of the shaky truce brokered in July of this year. Jacky Rowland, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Jerusalem, said: "The ceasefire doesn't seem to be anything more than a name at this stage." On November 17th, Israel allowed some UN food aid to pass through its barricades.

Top UN official Jon Ging spoke about the situation, saying: "These people have been reduced to be dependent on this food, and now we can’t even get that food into Gaza. It’s a disaster."

In addition to disallowing food access, Israel has also barred foreign journalists from entering the area.

According to Democracy Now, on Tuesday, November 20th, executives from the Associated Press, Reuters, New York Times, BBC, CNN, and other news sources sent a letter to the government of Israel condemning the government's choice to bar foreign journalists from the Gaza Strip saying, "We are gravely concerned about the prolonged and unprecedented denial of access to the Gaza Strip for the international media.” Israel defended themselves by criticizing the media and accusing them of not properly pointing out the reasoning behind the blockade of the Gaza Strip.

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User talk:Sachin~enwikinews

Welcome
By the way, welcome to English Wikinews. I hope you find the hints and tips in the banner below useful. --InfantGorilla (talk) 07:22, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Asna case copyright
Do you have documentation of the permission from Kerala.com? You should mail the license information to a volunteer at wikinews-en@wikimedia.org. Alternatively, rewrite the story using 2 independent sources, as described at Copyright. --InfantGorilla (talk) 07:22, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I am working as Editor for the same : if you want any reference you can contact soumya.bijoy@insidekerala.com

Thanks Sachin

 * The insidekerala web site has a copyright message that states "All Rights Reserved", per the above comment by InfantGorilla you really should look over Copyright. I see the article has been tagged as single source, but if you're a reporter/editor you may be able to claim original reporting if the story is built from attending court proceedings or reading judgements etc. To do that you would add a section on the collaboration page for the article detailing how this is original reporting.
 * The article could also do with some cleanup and being put into context for an international audience. It will be read from Canada to Canberra so you really need a more descriptive title that explains what has gone on, then the first paragraph should answer "What Where When Who Why, and How" (5Ws and H). The above welcome section has a link to a short essay on how to basically lay out an article according to the project style guide. WN:ARTICLE effectively is a must-read; it shows how to properly cite sources using the source template. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:33, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Sachin. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Sachin~enwikinews that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:21, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
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Comments:Australian police commander caught speeding at 175 kph

"Do as I say, not as I do!"

Busted Cop
You have to be pretty silly to go over the speed limit when your a police officer. You guys should know better, unless its an emergency, which is understandable. But 176 in a 100 zone, come on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.122.254.26 (talk) 23:22, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


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Welcome
--Brian McNeil / talk 09:39, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Global Entrepreneurship Week
Please see the comments on this page and do not list articles as featured that are still in development. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:08, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry i made a mistake --Eurobas (talk) 22:48, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Los Angeles wildfires are nearly contained

Update
If you can add some material on the progress, or not of the fires by Monday or even Tuesday morning, that would make for a more interesting story for a reviewer to publish today. --InfantGorilla (talk) 09:49, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah I have to agree with InfantGorilla. Just a new lead about how some of the fires are being contained will do nicely. The rest can be kept. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 14:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Los Angeles Wildires Are Nearly Contained
This article stated that the home of Rob Lowe was destroyed in the fire. This is incorrect. Rob's house was not damaged.

J. Morgan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.211.43.79 (talk) 02:47, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


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Talk:UN reports condemn West Bank settlement

Copying
At least one sentence of this article is a direct copy of the source. Please go through it carefully and make sure all the text is original (except attributed quotes). --InfantGorilla (talk) 10:00, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, yeah I copied a few things directly from one of the sources, sorry about that I thought it was alright, but I'll go ahead and change that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soapy (talk • contribs) 19:08, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Can this please be published? This is very important news and I have not seen mention of it anywhere in the mainstream press or on wikipediaSoapy (talk) 03:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Develop
Can I now move it to the review stage?

Publish
Publishable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soapy (talk • contribs) 22:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It would fail on style as inline links to sources are not used. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:49, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

They are? I put inline links to sources, but it did get published, when can I see it on the main page?Soapy (talk) 23:17, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It still has inline links, I have removed the review tag as a consequence. This is also heading for stale. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:21, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Wait I'm not supposed to use inline links? This all seems a little unnecessary, I think it's much more important that we at least publish this article just because of the worthiness of the news. I think it's ridiculous how long this is taking, and I really cannot understand the refusal to publish this article as is.
 * The refusal to publish is because it does not meet the style guidelines. Inline links encourage people to leave wikinews and read the details on another site. This is why they are very strongly discouraged within the body of an article. Publishing as-is would be publishing something that does not meet the standards Wikinews sets; we don't do that. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:35, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I thought I was suppposed to use inline links, that's the only reason I put them in, I'm going to delete them something that takes about 5 seconds, and I hope that you will then publish this —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soapy (talk • contribs) 23:20, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Trust me this article hasn't passed the style, lots of grammar mistakes and a bit of minor errors
This article needs more work. Please peer review it with your user account not IP. Not accepted. Fix the links etc.. Danger^Mouse (talk) 04:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * well by all means feel free to edit it... Soapy (talk) 08:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * well I think this is rather pathetic, here is this very important news story and rather than publish it with minor grammar errors we are going to totally ignore it. I invited anyone to fix these grammar errors and they don't want to.  You say that publishing an article with bad grammar will make people go to other news sites for their news, no what makes people go other places for news is the lack of news given on this site, I think this is a good example of just how pathetic this wikimedia system really is.Soapy (talk) 06:58, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Updating the article
Thanks for publishing it, but I have question. Because the blockades are continuing and news is continuing to flow in concerning the situation, how should I go about adding updates to this article. Do I start a new page, or do I just add the information concerning the blockade to this article? —Preceding Soapy (talk) 20:12, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * See WN:NOT. Wikinews articles are not works in progress. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:14, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Yes, a new article is the way to go. We like to preserve news as it was; see WN:ARCHIVE for information on this. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


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User talk:Soapy

Welcome
--Brian McNeil / talk 22:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC) [Previously subst'd by InfantGorilla]

Interview question
soon I will be interviewing Noam Chomsky, can I post the interview on wikinews as original reporting?Soapy (talk) 01:14, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * That is certainly a big interview. If you own the interview, then yes, you can publish it here as an original interview. If it is going to be published elsewhere under copyright protection, there will be a conflict. You must provide detailed notes of the interview, where when how, etc. Uploading an audio or video recording would be best of all. Also, since you are not an accredited Wikinewsie, perhaps you should speak with someone like Brian McNeil who is accredited and has experience with interviews of political figures. --SVTCobra 15:56, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I would consider myself an accredited wikinewsie lol, I have written at least dozen published articles, but yes I do own the rights to the interview and I'll speak to Brian after I do the interview about how I should go about publishing it Soapy (talk) 20:30, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:SVTCobra"
 * Well, I have written hundreds, yet I do not have accreditation. --SVTCobra 20:36, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Noam Chomsky interview
I've sent the interview back to Developing because it needs some copyediting for readability. Good job getting this, though, and good work. --Killing Vector (talk) 10:20, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

 * According to User:Brianmc, we can't use the YouTube link directly; do you have the original video material? If so you can upload that to Commons and we can embed it in the article from there. --Killing Vector (talk) 18:41, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well the video I would upload would be the same thing as if I had just downloaded it from youtube and uploaded it, but I guess I'll try and figure out how to do it unless you are willing toSoapy (talk) 03:30, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * When you upload to YouTube it re-encodes and you get a lower quality; plus we can't use YouTube on its own due to its license. Tell you what, if you upload the original to www.yousendit.com and e-mail the download link it gives you to scoop@wikinewsie.org we'll sort it out for you. --Killing Vector (talk) 10:09, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to do the transcoding and uploading. Soapy, contact me by e-mail on edmund.schluessel@wikinewsie.org so we can OTRS your permission to use the video? --Killing Vector (talk) 19:30, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Don't know if you saw this:

''Mr. Chomsky shows deeper insight into societal functioning than is commonly found amongst functionaries of government, members of academia or participants in the profession of journalism. It is sad that such light cannot shine strong enough into the darkness we are cloaked in by the all pervasive machinery of common journalism that enables the brainwashing by 'the system'. It is journalism Like Michael Dranove's that rates with the efforts of Bill Moyers on Public Television; I applaude wikinews for helping expand the counterforce to the Orwellian nightmare I find myself living in. -Bertvanwijck (talk) 11:14, 5 April 2009 (UTC)''

Congratulations. :) --Killing Vector (talk) 18:10, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar!
Here's a barnstar for your work. tempo di valse  19:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Sign Your Posts, Please
Hi, ! First of all, thank you for your contributions. I would like to ask you to sign your posts (even if you are an IP user) using. This will produce a signature, which can be changed in your preferences. Wikinews uses this to identify users without having to look in the page history, and add a template saying who really posted it. Thanks again, and remember to sign your posts! Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 18:29, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Review / Signature
Two Items. #1 - Unfortunately you cannot review & publish articles such as this until you have "Editor" permission. #2 - Your signature is for a username not your own. Please fix it in your "My Preferences" -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 17:05, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

 * Actually, the sig is fine, Shaka - the user just made a typo in the username field of the template. The bit where he left four tildes worked our properly. As for editor status, it's meant to be easy come, easy go so why not apply at WN:FRRFP? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:22, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Editor status granted
I have promoted you to the Editor class, as I feel you can be trusted to mark revisions of articles as sighted (review). Please take a moment to read: If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask for help on my talk page, and thank you for contributing to Wikinews! Tempodivalse [talk]  17:51, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Flagged revisions
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Headlines
Please remember the style guide specifies downstyle for article titles. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Gotcha, how do I edit titles though? Soapy (talk) 19:43, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Titles are changed by selecting the "Rename" button from the drop-down menu bar at the top of the page, then typing in a new title and pressing "move page". Tempodivalse [talk]  19:46, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Title POV issue
Please see Talk:Red Cross attacks Gaza blockade -  Amgine | t 19:54, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

privs
'''Note! Your privileges on English Wikinews have been reduced.'''
 * Under the Privilege expiry policy (enacted October 13, 2012) the rights held by your user account have been reduced due to inactivity, or lack of privilege use.

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See w:nl:Gebruiker:gpvos.

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User:Zir/draftx

Hot on the heels of the news that Top of the Pops will not feature in the BBC One TV schedules for Christmas 2008 and Simon Cowell's subsequent offer to revive it on ITV, comes the news that the show may have a future after all.

Will the "Sleeping Beauty" awake?
Mark Cooper, head of music entertainment for BBC TV, may be the prince who gives the show the kiss of life. "It's a Sleeping Beauty. One day it will come back, in the way that Top Gear and Dr Who came back" he told The Times "It's probably no longer the case that Top of the Pops can be revived on the basis of it being an entertainment programme – instead it may have to be judged as a public service."

R&B singer Lemar recently called for the return of the show and raised the matter with the UK Culture Secretary, Andy Burnham. Oasis front-man Noel Gallagher has blamed its absence for social breakdown and "people getting into weird shit like knifing each other".

The recent loss of Friday Night with Jonathan Ross from the BBC One schedule, has acted as a reminder to record bosses of how few slots there are currently for 'live' pop performances on peak-time television.

TOTP was last seen on July 30, 2006.

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User talk:74.181.41.39

Welcome
Welcome!

74.181.41.39, welcome to Wikinews! Thank you for your contributions I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

Our key policies - if you read anything, read these! Here a few pointers to help you get to know Wikinews: There are always things to do on Wikinews:
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If you have any questions, you can ask them at the water cooler or to anyone on the Welcommittee, or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! Cirt (talk) 11:46, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

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User:Cielomobile

See my Wikipedia user page for more info.

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See my Wikipedia talk page to talk to me.

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Comments:One killed, many boats damaged in storms on Spanish island of Majorca

One killed, many boats damaged in storms on Spanish island of Majorca
I am from Sant Elm (where the Frenchman was killed), and I just wanted to mention that this all already happened on OCT 29, 2008, 0730J - 0930J, 2 hours of scare. Here (in German) how it affected me (with photos) http://ohlmer.es/blog/140, my car in pieces, my boat capsized and my house w/o roof... Videos of the storm and the effects at: http://ohlmer.es/blog/173

The wind was the worst I have had here in 25 yrs., waves were not so bad (they had no time to build above 3 mtrs with just two hours of storm), but the sheer wind velocity (128 kph on my roof station = ) didnt allow you to breathe when exposed sideways.

I knew the dead man, he had a very nice (but not at all expensive or valuable) boat with two pointed ends (a fiber 3.5 mtr rowing boat, so not really a yacht...) and I had seen him polish it every day. Knowing this, and having been aware of the bad weather coming I even went by his house the day before and tried to warn him and to help him to get the boat out of the water or to one of the safe moorings, but he wasn´t home (myself, I own one of the few -19- theoretically storm safe moorings in the open waters here, this time it didnt work out for me, two cross waves made her hang in the air w/o water contact and then capsize on the way down, after a 7 mtr fall...).

On the morning in question I went out with the dogs in a strong wind, at about 0700J (J = local = GMT+1), when I came home half an hour later the wind had taken on force 10+ and my terrace stuff was in pieces. As the power was out I went to the only open bar i the village to have a coffe, on the way to there I saw the rescue efforts: The guy had jumped into the water to save his - adrift - boat and got crushed between boat and rocks. Horrible sight, his skull was about 3 cm flat, but no blood. Really stupid and sad way to die if you ask me.

By now, everything here is more or less to normal (the sound of chainsaws accompanying us all day still, though) and we are again as close to paradise as you can get if you dont like to pass through earth...

FWIW,

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Comments:Massive 7.5 earthquake strikes Indonesia

Bianca says it is very sad because they are already in poverty then to be struck by something so hard is very sad because they have to start all over again.


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US Nazi leader talks about Barack Obama, the economy and more

November 22, 2008 The National Socialist Movement is, according to its website, the largest and most active Nazi party in the United States. Accordingly, it refers to itself as 'America’s Nazi Party' and aims to instigate major change in the US.

Wikinews was able to conduct an interview with the head of the party, Commander Jeff Schoep. Fresh back from a march in Missouri, Commander Schoep told Wikinews his views on Barack Obama, the economy and much more.

Read the full exclusive interview below:

Interview
Does your party believe America will be a better or worse place with Obama as President?

 * Commander Schoep: Here is my answer to this: Why Obama is Good for Our Movement

How will the National Socialist Movement react to the election of Barack Obama - will there be co-operation or will you be opposed to him?
 * Commander Schoep: Obongo is just another figurehead. He answers to International jewry just like McCain, it does not matter what color his skin is, he is more of the same old same old system that has crippled our Nation.

Obama says he wants to close Guantanamo Bay - what are your views on this?

 * Commander Schoep: Our Position on Guantanamo is that it is a National disgrace and should be shut down completely. The Prison was set up to torture and avoid U.S. laws of fair treatment of prisoners, it should be closed. Furthermore many Soldiers (P.O.W.'s) are being held there in violation of International P.O.W. laws, instead these soldiers are classified as enemy combatants or terrorists. For example the Taliban was the legitimate Government in Afghanistan, yet their soldiers are not classified as soldiers. It is a violation of the rules of warfare, and it is criminal. For those reasons the Prison should be closed and the soldiers returned to their homelands.

'''There are fears Obama may be assassinated. What do you think that would mean for America and for your party?'''

 * Commander Schoep declined to answer this question.

Why do you think Obama succeeded over McCain?

 * Commander Schoep: McCain is an out of touch fool who openly crusaded for his beloved 3rd World invaders, who did not vote for him anyways because he is white. The Republicans lost many votes not just due to McCain's lack of charisma, but mainly because the common man is sick of the Republican lies and same old dog and pony show that was King George Bush. Voters see McCain as an extension of the policies that got us into the current economic mess/hardship in our Nation. Obama came across to the masses as someone who would change things. Whereas the voters believe he will change things and make America prosperous once again, I think his idea of change will likely be similar to the change Kwame Kilpatrick did for Detroit, Marion Barry did for DC, and Robert Mugabe did for Zimbabwe. Time will tell if he rules the land honestly, or if he attempts to further corrupt it, perhaps installing a communist like agenda to uplift the ghetto into the Suburbs. We will see...

If you were in power, how would you deal with the current financial situation?

 * Commander Schoep: We would institute a National Socialist Government. We would cut all foreign aid to Israel, and other unneeded foreign aid. Institute an America First Policy, pull back our troops from oversea's Zionist organized wars, and put them on America's borders to defend against illegal aliens. Halt the 3rd World invasion that is crippling our economy. We would abolish the Federal Reserve, and ban foreign influence from all aspects of our economy, and seats of Government.

Do you feel responses so far, both in the US and internationally, by politicians to the financial crisis were adequate, or could more have been done?

 * Commander Schoep: More should be done, see above response. Most American Politicians are afraid to take an America first stand, and bow down to the Israelis instead. U.S. politicians need to throw off the shackles, and stand up for the common man NOW, before it's to late. Only through an America First Policy will we regain prosperity and refuel our economy.

Do you think the economy will be sorted out in, say, four years time?

 * Commander Schoep: No, I think it will worsen. The Communist Party openly endorses and supports the new President, if that is a sign of things to come, look out White America. The Winds of Revolution may already be blowing.

Is there need for some international financial co-operation, or could America solve its own financial problems entirely on its own?

 * Commander Schoep: This would be an easy fix, bring all of our troops home from Overseas, cut off all Foreign aid (starting with Israel), institute an America First Policy across the boards, abolish the Federal Reserve, and remove all Foreign Nationals from any Govn't or banking institutions. That would be a start, and we should concentrate solely on our own Nation.

'''The US currently owes a large amount of debt. How would you go about paying this off and preventing the problem repeating itself?'''

 * Commander Schoep: Answer to this is above in the last question, institute those solutions and revive our economy, then we can pay back our debts.

'''Oil will eventually run out. That may or may not be short-term, but what is clear is that the prices, although back down from the record highs, are set to rise. Would you commit to using alternative sources of fuel and energy to combat this, or have you another energy policy in mind?'''

 * Commander Schoep: We must look at alternative energy forms, many valiant efforts are being made, such as the Tesla electric sports car (can I get one of those for this endorsement, ha ha kidding), and hybrid cars are a step in the right direction. I would favour taking some of the Federal $$$ slated for Foreign Nations and wars to be redirected at finding alternate and greener energy sources, and earmark other funding for cancer research and programs to heal our own sick people here in the U.S.

'''America recently revealed that they had lost a nuclear weapon off Greenland forty years ago. Many others have gone missing. Do you think nuclear weapons safety is adequate, does it need revamped, or should America commit to nuclear disarmament?'''

 * Commander Schoep: This is a tricky question, I think nuclear weapons are a bad thing, especially in the wrong hands, we know the Zionist terror State of Israel has nukes, and threatens the entire Middle East with those weapons. Due to the Israelis having them, now Iran wants them, and they have every right to pursue them for self defence against a hostile and unpredictable neighbor. In a perfect World I would say yes, all Nations should disarm them to insure that there are no accidents or madmen launching them at other Nations. The harm to the environment and mass human life is way too great to allow any Nuclear accidents. If there is a way to disarm all nations' nuclear arsenals, then I am all for that, but until all Nations have disarmed and destroyed them, others will keep trying to build them for their own National integrety.

What issues do you think the next US election will revolve around?

 * Commander Schoep: That remains to be seen. I am not a fortune teller, so I will reserve my speculation for coffee table talks.


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Japan enters recession

November 18, 2008

Japan, which accounts for 7% of world output, has entered a recession after posting two consecutive quarters of negative growth. The Japanese economy contracted by 0.9% between April and June and a further 0.1% since September.

Kaoru Yosano, the Japanese minister of fiscal policy, said "The downtrend in the economy will continue for the time being as global growth slows down. We need to bear in mind that economic conditions could worsen further as the US and European financial crisis deepens, worries of economic downturn heighten and stock and foreign exchange markets make big swings."

The Nikkei 225 stock index has fallen 40% since the beginning of the year, and has lost a quarter of its value during this month. After the news was announced the index dipped, then rose to close up 0.7%.

Japanese companies lose large sums whenever the yen's value surges. With the yen viewed as relatively stable during financial turmoil, the value against the US dollar has risen greatly.

JPMorgan Chase economist Masamichi Adachi said, "It's only going to get worse. Japan may be entering its deepest recession in a decade as the global financial crisis cools demand." Japan has not been in recession since 2001.

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Talk:Japan enters recession

Source
Relying on a tabloid as the main source for a story about economics is not advisable. It lead to a number of errors in the article. --SVTCobra 23:08, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

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User talk:Muchnick

Welcome
Cirt (talk) 00:21, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Benoit
What can I help you in regards with it? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:28, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

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Comments:New Zealand delays emissions trading scheme

This is why I voted for Labour. Consdering if responding to climate change is economically worthwhile! >< Im a screaming pinko and my heart twisted when I read that. Is Nationals head always into economy when there is a world at stake? A little bit dramatic I know but you get what I mean. We were supposed to be the ones pushing this, combating global warming, and now we are reconsidering it! Gah.

New Zealand is in a sink hole now :\

--218.101.90.14 01:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a Kiwi but I usually admire them. Rugby and all the rest. However, when I knew that your govt is "hear[ing] competing views on the scientific aspects of climate change", I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. Whose views they want to hear to first? Shell's or Exxon's? Climate change or its causes are not anymore in discussion! -218.95.47.71 04:15, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


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Talk:US Nazi leader talks about Barack Obama, the economy and more

Well, this just might be interesting. I heard on NPR that some White Supremacy groups like (or at least sympathize) with Obama as president, because they feel he might advance the "white agenda" or some such nonsense. —Calebrw (talk) 03:56, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

I promise you Calebrw, this should prove very interesting based on the responses so far. Anyway, some folk may have been waiting for this being published today, but it looks like it will be at least tomorrow. I had agreed to do short burts of 2-3 questions per email, but for the last lot I did 6 and offered him to take a little longer, then I could publish. It seems he, reasonably enough, decided to do so. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

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Interview was conducted via email. All correspondance has been forwarded to scoop AT wikinewsie DOT org. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Read the mails in scoop. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 16:50, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

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Is Mr. Schoep a commissioned officer? If not, why is he referred to as "commander" throughout the article? --+Deprifry+ 16:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I will guess and say that the 'leader' of what might be considered a form of military or militia, would probably refer to himself, and the rest of his pupils/troops/etc, as commander. Like Obama/BUsh is/was president of the US, they are also commander in chief of the US armed forces. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 16:58, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Dragon got it. He refers to himself as commander, and as the Nazis are fairly militaristic, I see that as a reasonable enough title to give the head of the party. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:17, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Common usage of the title "commander", which implies a certain degree of accomplishment, appears to be exclusively in a military or law enforcement context. I'm not sure we should uncritically relay his self-styled title, thereby giving our reader a wrong impression about Schoep's stature. --+Deprifry+ 13:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Links to the movement's website
I believe they should be removed. Wikipedia is not a place that encourages zealotry, hate, or demagoguery. Why are we including a link to a movement that have blood on their hands? Arbiteroftruth (talk) 07:00, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

 * This is not Wikipedia. You are welcome to piss off back to it. It's that way. Linking does not encourage anything, it merely says that you can find them here. Finally, information from the website was used in the introduction, making it's inclusion vital for referencing. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * P.S. Merry Christmas from all the team at Wikinews --Brian McNeil / talk 16:01, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

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editprotected Лидер нацистов США рассказывает о Бараке Обаме, экономике и не только --TarzanASG (talk) 12:17, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

 * ✅ Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:42, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


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Hello and welcome to my user page at wikinews. --DonaldLandrythesecond (talk) 03:58, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

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Senator Ted Stevens loses re-election bid in Alaska ballot

November 19, 2008 Alaskan U.S. Senator Ted Stevens, who turned 85 yesterday, narrowly lost his re-election bid to Mark Begich, the Democratic Mayor of Anchorage, Alaska.

Meanwhile, as Alaska's counting of the November 4 election is almost complete, Democratic challenger for the US House of Representatives, Ethan Berkowitz, conceded to incumbent Don Young, the Republican Party nominee.

With this result, the Democrats are two seats away (assuming that independents Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman continue to caucus with them) from a filibuster-proof supermajority in the United States Senate, with two races (Minnesota and Georgia) as yet uncalled. That would allow the Democrats to invoke cloture, limiting filibusters to a further 30 hours, an ability last attained in the 95th Congress of 1977-79. Stevens is entitled to request a recount at his campaign's expense, and has not yet made a statement. After the completion of counting yesterday, Begich had defeated Stevens by 3,724 votes, a margin of over one percent. 2,500 special absentee and postal ballots remain to be counted on November 25.

Begich released a statement on his win saying, “I am humbled and honored to serve Alaska in the United States Senate. It's been an incredible journey getting to this point, and I appreciate the support and commitment of the thousands of Alaskans who have brought us to this day.”

Young won his race by 16,280 votes, a margin of five percent.

Stevens recently became a convicted felon on seven counts for lying on Senate disclosure forms about accepting $250,000 in gifts and home renovations from VECO, an oil services company. He has asked President George W. Bush not to grant him a presidential pardon.

Related news

 * "Alaskan Democrat gains in US Senate race". Wikinews, November 18, 2008
 * "Three US Senate seats still undecided". Wikinews, November 12, 2008


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Thaksin to return to Thai politics

November 19, 2008 Several reports indicate that the ousted fugitive ex-Prime Minister of Thailand, Thaksin Shinawatra, is to again become involved in the country's politics. He is scheduled to give another phone-in address from abroad on December 14 to supporters at the national Suphachalasai Stadium.

People's Power Party (PPP) MP, and spokesman for the pro-government "Truth Today" roadshow Jatuporn Promphan said, "Thaksin will no longer wait to be attacked, he will fight back by all means, particularly with an eye-for-an-eye strategy, from now on. Thaksin now believes that the only way for him to survive and to live is to fight for his name".

Currently in exile and facing a two year jail term should he return to Thailand, Thaksin informed lawyers from his current residence in Dubai that he would not appeal the conviction for corruption in the Ratchadapisek land deal. While lawyers claim to have prepared the needed paperwork to challenge the conviction, the deadline to do so is today.

According to the Bangkok Post, a return to politics by the ex-PM has caused some concern among PPP government members over the divisions this could cause within the country. Thaksin still enjoys a great deal of support from the rural poor in the country's North-East where the populist policies of his now-outlawed Thai Rak Thai (TRT) party helped win a majority. His most vocal critics, the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) have now occupied Government House in Bangkok for over three months.

The close association of the ruling PPP with the former premier has given them their own set of problems. The party is actively contesting a case in the country's supreme court that could see it dissolved. The case centres around allegations of vote buying and the party's former deputy leader, Yongyuth Tiyapairat, stands accused of paying village heads for votes. The PPP disputes that this was a party action as opposed to the independent actions of Yongyuth and the other accused. A ruling on the fraud from last December's election is expected soon. Critics of the government claim that it is simply a front for the ex-PM and his dissolved party. The yellow-shirted PAD protesters at Government House assert that current Prime Minister, Somchai Wongsawat, Thaksin's brother-in-law, is merely a proxy for the controversial ex-leader.

Prosecution of Thaksin on other charges, which he maintains are politically motivated, continues; the supreme court is expected to hold a hearing next month on accusations that he is 'unusually rich'. This relates to the sale of the family's stake in Shin Corporation to Temasek Holdings, the investment arm of the Singapore government. Assets worth 76 billion baht (US$ 2.2 billion) are currently frozen over this issue. The ex-PM escaped impeachment over the tax-free sale of Shin in February 2006. Thai media reports that an amicable divorce of Thaksin and his wife Pojaman in Hong Kong will have no bearing on the case or asset seizure. Despite the split last week neither can return to Thailand without facing imprisonment; Potjam was earlier successfully prosecuted and given a three year sentence.

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= Will Thaksin's involvement deepen the country's political crisis? =

The guy is a corrupt fascist, ousted by the people in a peaceful coup. The only way to put him in power again is using the same corruption that he sports in his forehead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.242.244.90 (talk) 19:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


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Talk:Thaksin to return to Thai politics

I've probably read about 20-30 sources for this over the last 2-3 days but I've tried to keep those I cite to a minimum to ensure reviewing is not overly onerous.

I'll be keeping the million-and-one tabs I've referenced available until this gets reviewed, so if there are any details I've missed giving a source for let me know ASAP. Please note that the related stories have also been used as sources. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Everything looks good in this article. I checked all the sources and everything checks out. I can't do a final review since I have a bit of COI with something mention in the article. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 16:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Senator Ted Stevens loses re-election bid in Alaska ballot

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The new headline is quite bland. Why not mention the birthday to give the story more color? The LA Times and MSNBC both use it in their headlines. --InfantGorilla (talk) 12:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:CERN says repairs to LHC particle accelerator to cost US$21 million

Oh? Only that much money... No problem... The Templar Knights have all the money in the World.

How was it damage? --66.229.21.217 17:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

$21 million... The_Pentagon spends that much in Iraq every hour and a half. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.55.212.247 (talk) 22:34, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Iraq is costy. But killing is more fun, than a search for some particle. Besides, history books never write "Prince sponsored scientists and a new planet/chemical element/etc was discovered". They write: "Glorious price rightfully attacked and enslaved the enemy". Now, seriously, yes, governors get really greedy when the money are not going for killing.

Along these miles and miles of track the scientists have finally found the problem plaguing the LHC, "Hey guys, look at this mosquito!" Fephisto (talk) 12:45, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

This project should be funded to the maximum extent required or requested.

Where did it go wrong?
This is a query rather than a comment.

What type of skill did a not-so-correct job? Was the CERN's own staff or an outside third party? If it's an outside party, is there anything like Warrantee where they would repair it free of cost?

Rajendra.

Hahaha, "luckily, the LHC was still under a manufacturer's warranty from Sony, so they're just gonna get a new one in the mail." 216.36.183.97 (talk) 22:55, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Hahahahaha! That was hilarious:). Good work. Gopher65talk 23:09, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Translate this in albanian leanguage ....coz. i dont understand a lot of words...

Comments from feedback form - "nice"
nice —122.168.206.84 (talk) 10:16, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

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i didnt found any mistake :D —79.98.77.252 (talk) 13:56, 12 February 2012 (UTC)


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I think it's somewhat disapionting that Senator Stevens didn't win. If he had won then he would have been the first convicted felon to ellected to the Senate. Any ways I think Alaska was voicing thier dissent to the rest of the country with so many people voting for convicted fellon, they where sending the rest of us (the rest of US)a message, that being "To hell with what the rest of you think, we'll vote for whoever we like." Had Stevens won, that message would have impact.

 * Nah, it would've just showed how much the oil bozos control Alaska --199.190.223.190 15:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

 * what a lot of Alaskan people said the reason why they voted for him because he got them jobs and help Alaskan out. I would not still vote for him, but the only different thing between Stevens and the rest of the Senate, he was caught--66.229.21.217 17:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Negotiations between Athens and Skopje lead to deadlock

Concerning the Greek - F.y.r.o.m. dispute and facts about the Greekness of Ancient Makedonia:

About Skopje (F.Y.R.O.M.) propaganda
'''There have been certain fallacies circulating for the past few years due to ignorance on the “Macedonian Issue”. It is exacerbated by systematic propaganda emanating from F.Y.R.O.M (Former Yugoslavic Republic of Makedonia), and their intransigent ultra-nationalist Diaspora.''' HERE ARE SOME FACTS ABOUT MAKEDONIA AND THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIAN HISTORY

Fact 1
'''The inhabitants of "F.Y.R.O.M." (Former Yugoslavic Republic of Makedonia), are mostly SLAVS, BULGARIANS and ALBANIANS. They have nothing in common with the ancient Macedonians.''' Here are some testimonies from The FYROM’s officials: - former President of F.Y.R.O.M., Kiro Gligorov said: "We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century...we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians." (Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992, p. 35) - Gyordan Veselinov, F.Y.R.O.M's Ambassador to Canada, said: "We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian." (24 February 1999) - Ambassador of the F.Y.R.O.M. to USA, Ljubica Achevska said: "we are Slavs and we speak a Slav language." (22 January 1999)

Fact 2
The Macedonian Greeks are NOT of the same ethnic group as the Macedonian Slavs of The F.Y.R.O.M. '''The Macedonian Greeks are just that, GREEKS who live in or originate from the geographic area of Macedonia. They are the only people, that by inheritance, can be really called Macedonians.'''

Fact 3
'''Ancient Macedonians were one of more than the 230 Hellenic (Greek) tribes, sub-tribes, and families of the Hellenic Nation that spoke more than 200 dialects. For more information see Herodotus, Thucydides, Titus Livius, Strabo, Nevi'im, Ketuvim, Apocrypha (Macabees I, 1-2). It was not until 1945 that their Hellenism has been challenged by certain Slavs for expansionistic reasons.'''

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ANCIENT MAKEDONIANS SPOKE GREEK. '''Linguistically, there is no real distinction between a dialect and a language without a specific factor. People usually consider the political factor to determine whether a certain kind of speech is a language or a dialect. Since the Pan-Hellenic area consisted of many small city- states (Attica, Lacedaemon, Corinth, etc.), and larger states (Molossia, Thesprotia, Macedonia, Acarnania, Aetolia, etc.), it was common knowledge at the time that the people of all those states were speaking different languages, when in fact they were all variations of the same language, Hellenic or Greek. The most advanced of all Hellenic dialects was the dialect of Attica (Athens) or Attic. When people state “ancient Greek language” they mean the Attic dialect and any comparison of the Macedonian dialect to ancient Greek is actually a comparison to the Attic dialect. The difference between Macedonian and Attic was like the difference between Low and High German. Nobody doubts that both are Germanic languages, although they differ from one another. Another good example of a multi-dialectal linguistic regime is present-day Italy. The official language of Italy is the Florentine, but common people still speak their own dialects. Two people from different areas of Italy cannot communicate if both speak their respective dialect, and yet they both speak Italian. Why should the Hellenic language be treated differently?''' THE MAKEDONIAN LANGUAGE WAS AN AETOLIC DIALECT OF THE WESTERN GREEK LANGUAGE GROUP (Hammond, The Macedonian State, p. 193).

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'''Before Phillip II, Macedonia was divided into small typical city-states having adopted the same concept of internal civic structure as the southern Greek city-states. Each Macedonian city-state or area had its own main city and government. Philip II united the Macedonian city-states by instituting and establishing a Homeric style of a Kingdom, maintaining the infrastructure of the smaller city-states with the various kings paying tribute to the king of all Macedonia. We know this from the fact that at one time the king of Lyncestis (present day Bitola - Florina) was Alexander. The point that has to be made clear is that a man’s first loyalty was to his city, not to the King of Macedonia (Hammond, The Macedonian State, p. 9).'''

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'''The king of Macedonia, Alexander I, was named Philhellene by the Theban poet Pindaros for the same reason Jason of Pherrai and Euagoras of Cyprus were called Philhellenes (Isocrates 107A, 199A). The title Philhellene in ancient times meant Philopatris (lover of the homeland) or simply put “a patriot” (Plato, Politics, 470E; Xenophon, Agesilaus, 7, 4), which is why Alexander the Great did not touch the traditional house of Pindaros when he ordered his soldiers to burn Thebes.'''

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'''There is nothing in common between The F.Y.R.O.M’s lion symbol and the lion's skin that Alexander the Great of Ancient Makedonia wears in some coins. The F.Y.R.O.M’s lion is actually the Bulgarian lion, which is depicted in the Bulgarian Coat of Arms.''' '''Alexander’s lion is the lion's skin that Heracles killed in Nemea, which is one of the 12 deeds executed by the mythological hero. The lion skin that Alexander the Great wears signifies his ancestral relationship to Heracles (Hercules). There is an unpublished inscription from Xanthos dating from the third century BC (cf. Robert, Amyzon, 1,162, n 31) where the Ptolemies refer to their Ancestors as “Herakleidas Argeadas” (Errington, A History of Macedonia, p 265, n 6).'''

Fact 8
'''Greece is an area which lacking geographic continuity fostered alienation of individual tribes not only in the general sense, but also in a narrower sense. That explains why the ancient Greeks did not have a common national conscience which is why they were warring against each other. The Macedonians destroyed or burned cities belonging to other Greek City States for the same reason the Athenians, the Thebans, and the Spartans battled one another.''' '''They knew that somehow they were related, but local conscience was much stronger than a Pan- Hellenic one. Ancient Greeks, of the Hellenic mainland, were united before an enemy attack that could endanger the common freedom and welfare. This fact was displayed anytime the Persians attacked the Hellenic lands. Greeks from Ionia and Aeolia (present day Aegean shores of Turkey), however, were mostly Persian allies in opposition to the Mainland Greeks.'''

'''It was common practice for various Hellenic states to form political/military alliances with each other and against each other, but they did not develop ethnic partnerships. There are plenty of such alliances in the ancient Hellenic world.'''

'''A few centuries went by until the Greeks began developing a national conscience. The Greeks definitely achieved the completion of a national conscience by the time Justinian was crowned the Emperor of Byzantium. Very few ancient Greeks, such as Pericles, Demosthenes and Phillip II of Macedonia had the vision of a united country, but each one wanted to see his own state as the leading force of such a union. Pericles dreamed of it, Demosthenes advocated it, but Phillip II materialized it. Also, the Macedonians had common religious practices and customs as the Spartans.'''

Fact 9
'''It is very true that a good number of the Greeks living in the Greek Macedonia area in North Greece are refugees from various Middle Eastern countries. However, it is also true that these Greeks are descendants of those ancient Greeks, including ancient Macedonians, who either colonized various areas of what presently are Russia, Ukraine, Georgia, Bulgaria, Turkey, the Middle East, or followed the greatest General of all times, Alexander the Great. These Greeks simply came home after at least two and one half millennia of spreading the Greek spirit, culture, language and civilization. Mother Greece made her lands available to her returning and thought to be lost offspring. It was the least she could do. After all they had every right to come home, just as the Jews did and they are still going home to Israel.'''

Fact 10
N. G. L. Hammond states about Ancient Makedonia: '"What language did these `Macedones' speak? The name itself is Greek in root and in ethnic termination. It probably means `highlanders', and it is comparable to Greek tribal names such as `Orestai' and `Oreitai', meaning 'mountain-men'. A reputedly earlier variant, `Maketai', has the same root, which means `high', as in the Greek adjective makednos or the noun mekos. The genealogy of eponymous ancestors which Hesiod recorded […] has a bearing on the question of Greek speech. First, Hesiod made Macedon a brother of Magnes; as we know from inscriptions that the Magnetes spoke the Aeolic dialect of the Greek language, we have a predisposition to suppose that the Macedones spoke the Aeolic dialect. Secondly, Hesiod made Macedon and Magnes first cousins of Hellen's three sons - Dorus, Xouthus, and Aeolus-who were the founders of three dialects of Greek speech, namely Doric, Ionic, and Aeolic. Hesiod would not have recorded this relationship, unless he had believed, probably in the seventh century, that the Macedones were a Greek speaking people. The next evidence comes from Persia. At the turn of the sixth century the Persians described the tribute-paying peoples of their province in Europe, and one of them was the `yauna takabara', which meant `Greeks wearing the hat'. There were Greeks in Greek city-states here and there in the province, but they were of various origins and not distinguished by a common hat. However, the Macedonians wore a distinctive hat, the kausia. We conclude that the Persians believed the Macedonians to be speakers of Greek. Finally, in the latter part of the fifth century a Greek historian, Hellanicus, visited Macedonia and modified Hesiod's genealogy by making Macedon not a cousin, but a son of Aeolus, thus bringing Macedon and his descendants firmly into the Aeolic branch of the Greek-speaking family. Hesiod, Persia, and Hellanicus had no motive for making a false statement about the language of the Macedonians, who were then an obscure and not a powerful people. Their independent testimonies should be accepted as conclusive (N.G.L. Hammond, The Macedonian State, p.12-13)." The evidence above shows that the ancient Macedonians were one of the Hellenic groups of tribes speaking a Greek dialect and having the same institutions as the Spartans and especially the Greeks of the Western group of nations. Thus, the fallacies emanated from the F.Y.R.O.M and its diaspora are strongly repudiated.'

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UK football club criticized by council for attempting to trademark city's bird

November 19, 2008

Liverpool F.C., an association football club located in Liverpool, a British city, has been criticized by the city council for attempting to trademark the Liver Bird, a symbol used to represent the city of Liverpool, and its football club. Flo Clucas, the Deputy leader of Liverpool City Council, expressed her concern over the move. "I have some very real concerns over it," she stated. "They do already have their crest trademarked, but they have no right of ownership to claim the bird, or any version of the bird, as their own."

"...Not only does it appear on the Royal Charter for the council, but it is also used by local businesses and schools," she continued. "It belongs to the city and nobody has a right to claim it exclusively as the own. It's a symbol for the city."

The football club attempted to respond to these concerns by asserting that "Liverpool Football Club is seeking to trademark only its own specific version of the Liver Bird, to combat its use in counterfeit merchandise."

However, Clucas stated that although "the club also says they have no intention of charging organisations that want to use it," there is no guarantee that this will still be the case in the future, so, according to Clucas, residents of the city may have to pay for the use of the bird in the future if the trademark is approved.

The council is seeking legal advice over the application.

Liverpool F.C. formed in 1892, and is currently managed by Rafa Benitez. They have qualified for the Champions League in every one of the last four seasons, and they are currently second place in the English Premier League, and they have won five of their last six matches.

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Maybe a bit more on Liverpool FC can be added such as being the best club in the England and as a result, being the best club in the world. Just joking of course, we all know West Ham is the best. --PatrickFlaherty (talk) 16:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


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OI! Are you looking at my bird? Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

How can you own an entire species? What gives them the right? 76.100.25.133 21:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Well in America nearly all our sports teams have animals. So whats the big deal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.21.217 (talk) 06:30, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


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NTSB continues investigation of near-collision in Pennsylvania, United States

November 20, 2008 The United States National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) has issued an update in its investigation of a serious runway incursion in Pennsylvania in September. A regional jet with sixty people on board aborted takeoff and swerved to avoid a light plane, missing it by an estimated ten feet. The event occurred at Allentown's Lehigh Valley International Airport. A Canadair CRJ-700, operated by Mesa Airlines as Flight 7138, received clearance for takeoff but aborted the maneuver at 120 knots (138 mph), skidding around a Cessna 172R that had just landed and was still taxiing on the runway. The crew of the Mesa Air regional jet estimated the distance between the two aircraft as 10 feet when they passed.

The Mesa Air crew decided to abandon the flight. They returned the aircraft for inspection, but no damage was found. The incident occurred at night.

The NTSB also released a photo of the tire marks left by the jet after the incident, showing that a violent swerve occurred. A detailed timeline has been released, as shown below:

 * 7:29:28 - Cessna contacts Allentown tower while about 8 miles east of the airport.

 * 7:33:30 - Cessna, in landing pattern for runway, is cleared to land on runway 6.

instructs pilot to hold short of runway 6 for landing traffic.
 * 7:34:50 - Mesa Air regional jet contacts tower and reports ready for takeoff and holding short of runway 6. Controller

 * 7:36:15 - Cessna crosses threshold of runway 6 and lands.

 * 7:36:27 - Mesa Air instructed by tower controller to taxi into position on runway 6 and hold.

 * 7:36:36 - Tower controller asks pilot of Cessna where he intends to park. Following pilot response, controller provides taxi directions, instructing pilot to exit runway at taxiway A4.

 * 7:37:11 - Mesa Air cleared for takeoff. 7:37:18 to 7:37:32 - Controller turns attention to an inbound aircraft and issues landing instructions.

 * 7:37:34 - Cessna pilot informs tower controller that he had missed the A4 taxiway and asks for permission to exit at taxiway B.

 * 7:37:42 - Controller replies, "...no delay, turn immediately," which Cessna pilot acknowledges.

 * 7:38:16 - Mesa Air radios tower controller: "We got it, tower - we're going to need to go back to the gate." Following the incident, both aircraft taxied to parking.

The NTSB has interviewed both pilots from the jet's four-person crew, the Cessna's pilot, the air traffic controllers on duty and the Federal Aviation Administration control tower managers. The investigation continues.


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Note: Some text was lifted from the NTSB; as a work of the US Federal Governemnt anything it produces is in the public domain. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:46, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

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Negotiations for hijacked Saudi oil tanker begin

November 20, 2008 Vela International Marine, the Saudi Arabian company that owns the MV Sirius Star oil tanker which was captured by pirates on November 15, has begun negotiations with the Somali pirates.

The Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al Faisal said that talks had begun, but he did not say whether a ransom would be paid. Vela International Marine, which is owned by state-owned Saudi Aramco, would only say it is "working toward [the crew's] safe and speedy return."

"We do not like to negotiate with pirates, terrorists or hijackers," said Saud al Faisal in Rome, after speaking with Franco Frattini, the Foreign Minister of Italy.

Dubai-based television network Al Jazeera broadcast an audiotape of a man who said he was with the pirates. He identified himself as Farah Abd Jameh.

"Negotiators are located on board the ship and on land. Once they have agreed on the ransom, it will be taken in cash to the oil tanker. We assure the safety of the ship that carries the ransom. We will mechanically count the money and we have machines that can detect fake money," the man said. He did not mention any specific amounts for the ransom.

The British Foreign Office released a statement Wednesday which identified two of the crew as chief engineer Peter French and second officer James Grady. The rest of the 25-man crew are from Croatia (1), Poland (2), Philippines (19) and Saudi Arabia (1). They are all reported to be safe.

Foreign Secretary David Miliband said that the Royal Navy was coordinating a European response.

Dominique Montecer, the director of operations at GEOS Group, a corporate risk management firm, cast doubt on a military response.

"Everything is possible but it would take extraordinary means and organization, and the risk of an ecological disaster is very high. They are sitting on a bomb," Montecer said. "It's certainly a very complex environment to work in — a Liberian-flagged vessel, owned by a Saudi company, in Somali waters, with so many different nationalities on board," said Lt. Nate Christensen of the United States Navy when asked about the possibility of taking back the Sirius Star by force.

"Shipping companies are already making decisions not to go through the Gulf of Aden, and making the decision to take the much longer route around the south of Africa," said Peter Hinchcliffe, marine director of the International Chamber of Shipping. "And with the increase in intensity of attacks, that is something that is going to be much more frequent. It's adding let's say an average of two weeks to the passage time."

Since the capture of the Sirius Star, pirates in the Gulf of Aden have taken at least three other ships. These include a Chinese ship carrying wheat, a Greek bulk carrier, and a Thai fishing vessel. The International Maritime Bureau reports that Somali pirates currently hold 14 ships along with an estimated 250 crew members. Since January, there have been over 30 hijackings in the area, while another 60 ships have been attacked.

Among the ships still held is the Ukrainian cargo ship MV Faina, which has a cargo of 33 Russian T-72 battle tanks, as well as other weapons. The Faina was hijacked on September 25.

Meanwhile, the Indian Navy has reported that it encountered and destroyed what it called a pirate "mother ship" on Tuesday. India dispatched frigate INS Tabar last month to protect its merchant shipping in the Gulf of Aden. The pirate vessel reportedly threatened the Indian frigate after it was hailed.

Several NATO members, as well as Russia, India and Malaysia have all sent warships to the region to protect merchant shipping in the area. The Combined Task Force 150, formed as a multinational coalition in the War on Terrorism, was restructured in 2006 to aid in anti-piracy efforts.


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