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KDE 4.0 release event
Does anybody interested in attending KDE 4.0 release event ta make interview with KDE developers? I planning to attend and take pictures for Commons. --EugeneZelenko 04:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Quiz of 2007
There's a new bumper quiz up at World News Quiz, covering the whole of the past year. Could an admin put a note in the Sitenotice if there's no objection. Also it may be worth mentioning on the blog, who should I contact about that? the wub "?!"  17:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I posted it on the blog. But the sitenotice currently doesn't work due to the donation sitenotice.  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 17:51, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * OK thanks. the wub "?!"  17:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually site notice does work locally now. However it looks really crowded. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:23, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

help requested
I have an article that is in search of a home. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nbahn/Joe_Klein_sandbox Assuming that it wouldn't fit in at Wikinews (even with editing), can anyone think of a place that would welcome this dog of a work? (but it plays well with others!)

--Nbahn 12:52, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

 * long shot, but you might try to get an interview with him, use the material you've already gathered for background and for presenting other views. –Doldrums(talk) 19:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * As Doldrums says, Interview. You've done all the background legwork to compose a good series of questions. If the guy is with the NYT I can try and get you a contact email address. Drop me a note on my talk page. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:22, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Spelling correction to Caption: Anmensty=>Amnesty
Could someone please correct the spelling in: Template:Featured picture I don't seem to have enough privileges to do it myself... Thanks & regards, JohnI 22:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅. Thanks for pointing that out. Cheers, --Jcart1534 23:55, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Great, looks better now... JohnI 00:18, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

This day in history - 2007?
Just wondering whether the following template should include 2007:

Template:FrontPageHistoricalList

If you add it, I think you'll also have add "2007" to the Main Page.

Regards, JohnI 20:48, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes it should, and it now does. Thanks for suggesting this! —Zachary talk 22:26, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Tax rebate
Is there a story on the tax rebate? Where can I get a list of all the stories today? Todayroute 00:28, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The list of articles for today can be found on Category:January 24, 2008. You can also check out the list of articles created (includes stories not published) here. There is no article on a tax rebate yet. Feel free to create one :)  —Fellow Wiki  Newsie 00:37, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I found a crossword puzzle for Jan 30th 2005 on Wiki, are there more please?

How do I place the news article I am publishing in a specific category? In this case I want to put the article in Wacky news in Vermont.

Who did he endorse?

gaza
where can one speculate about possible motives behind                                   the headlines?
 * You may be interested in using the "Comments" tab above any article! There you can air your views about the story. --Skenmy(t•c•w) 17:42, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

you dont give information about various states' current affairs please do that

Partial solar eclipse
Here is a link to some photos. The Eclipse is currently in progress and is visable from New Zealand.
 * Blog article

How can I find this article? march 16, 1992 students study for security high school equivalecy classes boom in shakey market
 * We haven't written an article on that. try . Bawolff ☺☻ 22:55, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Prepared story
FYI - I have created Obama wins "Potomac Primary" states on the Democratic Party side as a prepared story. Diligent Terrier 21:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

No English news coverage until yet but WN will delete the article
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Medieval_Housebook_sold Can anybody do the formal edits that the article can remain? What's wrong with the title? --132.230.124.25 00:58, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * See the tag on the article. The sources need formatting and english sources too. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually just noticed no English sources available. Can someone read German to verify the text(s)? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Non-English source are not a requisite. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 22:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I have cleaned up the article, including a rename and removing the tags, but before publishing I have a concern which I listed on Talk:Historic manuscript "The Housebook" reported sold in Germany. --SVTCobra 23:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * glad to see an article needing attention getting it :) appreciate SVTCobra and Stevenfruitsmaak's efforts in fixing and publishing this article. –Doldrums(talk) 10:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

TIBE problem.... DAMN and SERIOUS
Why I use this as a discussion topic? Because currently, even though the TIBE (Taipei Int'l Book Exhibition) was recently ended this Monday, and I ever got the press pass from TIBE's officials, but....

 * 1) DAMN: No one (except User:Skenmy) like to do any copy-editing on my articles since I posted at Final day. I'm sure that someone who want to abandon mines.
 * 2) Very SERIOUS (view carefully, it's related on WMF's Policy): Some users from Japanese Wikipedia suspect my credential (AR) since I added some photos in articles related to Japaneses, some users thought it as a violation of "Personality Rights" and scared that if an involved person knew his/her images uploaded without my permission. But according to Resolution Policy by Wikimedia Foundation, if someone took a photo related to a lived person and uploaded to Commons with free-license, it should be used into that article, and non-free lived person images should be replaced by those free-licensed ones. Then, WHO WAS WRONG? Before replying, please view those key links below: 1, 2, 3. And I will wait Kanjy's reply to petition for this serious picture usage problem.

Reply carefully. Currently, I feel angry and worried on those 2 problems. Brock contact... 13:06, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * What I know about personality rights, pretty much ends at commons:template:Personality rights, but i always thought if it was a person doing something publicly then it was okay. (as in if the article is about them it is fine, but if say the article is about obesity, and you take a picture of a random fat person walking on the sidewalk without asking them, it is not okay). Maybe someone from commons would be able to help you more on that point Bawolff ☺☻ 22:42, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Complainant
If Wikimania can do several contributions on photos and news wires, why several trade shows, exhibitions can't be so? I'm ever complained by Wikimedia Taiwan because of my participation on COMPUTEX, but I still think they always wrong because there should be an user visiting there. Due to several unhappy experiences, I decided to break off some relationships with Chinese Community. It's still a major problem. Brock contact... 13:23, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

castles of scotland
i am looking for any photographs or any information on Mauldslie Castle witch used to be situated at rosebank in carluke southlanarkshie scotland. it would be great if youcould help me. my email is bigjimfenn@hotmail.co.uk
 * We are not an information bureau. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:16, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I received an email that says I have tested the Wikinews
I need to write something somewhere about my name as an Author of my books....

 * Hello Armand. Note that Wikinews does not publish editorials, advertisements, or personal resumes. If you want to contribute to Wikinews, please see the introduction or some of the other links in your welcome message. As an author and, therefore, interested party, you may wish to request an interview for an article on a newly released work rather than writing the article yourself. Hope this helps. --Jcart1534 - (talk) 04:32, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Domas Mituzas
Can someone take a look at Wikinews:Story preparation/Wikinews interviews: Domas Mituzas please? I plan just a short interview; so if it looks ok please let me know and I'll go for it - if not, again I need to know what needs fixed. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:44, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Image Help
I need some help aquiring an image for a story I posted. Im new at this whole news thing, and I dont know where to find something thats not copyrighted. Can I please get some help? Look at the article Six people killed in Memphis home <Is that the right template? Please, I need some help here. Araxes - (talk) 22:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd love to provide any assistance i can, however I'm really only on wikinews for the next ten minutes so I probably won't actually be all that useful. With images the rule of thumb is if you made it yourself, if the us federal government made it, or if it is on its ok. What type of image are you looking for.

Quick intro to editing (see help:Contents for more) Theres lots more. See help:Contents, if you need anymore help feel free to ask here, or on WN:IRC. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:01, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Link using <nowiki< for example to link to main page, do [[Main Page
 * Some special pages have a prefix. pages that are portals start with portal. ex portal:Europe for portal:Europe
 * Some links (image and category) are special. To link to them start with a :. for example to link to category:Europe do category:Europe
 * To add a page to a category, do a normal link to the category (add note no colon at front)
 * To add an image, do a normal link to image [[image:smile.png]] makes [[image:Smile.png]] (works for any image on wikinews or
 * Templates (using syntax) includes a page on another page. Try adding  to Sandbox.

about customer care
how customer care could be aplied in the public service

Is this worthy of an article?
There was an apartment fire in Green Bay today. It was the second or third time an apartment building burned down there. I saw the smoke and the fire trucks but I couldn't get a good look at the build it self 4.158.156.163 01:05, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Help with translation needed
Hi. There is a very small problem with the translation of an article for de.wikinews. Is there anyone who can help us with this (see also Franz's comment here)? Thanks in advance. --Angela H. - (talk) 15:50, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I tried to explain it on the talk page. --+Deprifry+ 17:02, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for you help. --Angela H. - (talk) 17:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

bussiness report 2007
Iwant to get world top ten revenue earning company (in amount).

Please check story
I have a majorish interview set up here which I believe is roughly ready. Can someone take a look over it and raise any concerns they have before I set it in stone, please? Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I apreciate it's kinda long, but at least check the questions? As I'd like a second opinion before they are sent off and what this up ASAP to keep 'one year on' accurate. Thanks. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:02, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

How old is "too old"?
I notice at Requested articles that many requests are marked as "too old". How old is too old?

Specifically, is an event from March 4th too old? The story is the murder of Lauren Burk on March 4. I'm surprised that there is not already an article about her murder. It is too late to write an article now?

Could I write that article by copying from Wikipedia then correctly formatting its sources? (Wikipedia is considering deleting that article because it is about a news event, and may not be appropriate for an encyclopedia. If there were an article here, then Wikipedia could redirect to here.) Sbowers3 - (talk) 19:31, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

 * In general, 3 or 4 days is seen as the limit, I think. What you still could do, is write an article based on any recent developments in that case, e.g. from (a few) sources not older than 3 or 4 days. You could then expand on what preceded.
 * Wikipedia's GFDL license is not compatible with ours, so that you can't copy things from there. If however, you are the only author of that article or you have the permission of all authors, you could copy it here and use that as a start.
 * Wikipedia doesn't have articles that consist entirely of redirects to other projects, but if there were to be an article, you could use wikinews to link to here. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:36, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Help publish while still newsworthy
I think the Cassini article is ready to publish except the title is too long. A good title would be something like, "Cassini spacecraft dives in for close flyby". As a newbie, I am not allowed to change the title. This is frustrating; soon this will no longer be news. It was a more exciting story when the survival of the mission was still unknown.Electricmic - (talk) 05:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * have renamed the article to Spacecraft Cassini collects sample from geyser on Saturn's moon. –Doldrums(talk) 07:41, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Fennovoima
I would apreciate someone glancing over Story preparation/Finnish energy company Fennovoima discuses plans for new nuclear facility with Wikinews before I send it off, please. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:32, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I sent them without any checks, owing to a lack of response. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:34, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

HI! NEW ENERGY DAY IS JULY 10TH!
OK,HOW ABOUT A REPORT ON THE NEW ENERGY DAY/GLOBAL ENERGY INDPENDENCE DAY (SEE WWW.teslasocietycom GLBAL ENERGY INDPERNDENCE DAY, THE BIRTH ANNIVERSARY OF GREAT ENERGY PIONEER NIKOLA TESLA91856-19430SEE ALSO WWW.Peswiki.com nIKOLA TESLA/global energy indpendence day. a day to promote utlize alternative enrgy and fuels! thanks! dr. edson andre' johnson d.d.ulc. founder new enrgy day/global enrgy indpendence day project. huntington beach, california usa.Other E mail is Teslaedson1@aol.com NEW ENERGY FOR A NEW GREEN WORLD!!!

Need Critique
New to Wikinews. Need someone to let me know what i did wrong or right. Only second article: Immigration_Still_Stirring_the_U.S._Political_Agenda:_Congressional_Hispanic_Caucus_Reduces_Visas_Number%2C_Study_Reveals_Minorities_Will_be_the_Majority Would be most appreciative WikiBlue - (talk)

Review requested for interview
My interview with Brian Pink has been uploaded, transcribed, and posted at Story preparation/Wikinews interviews Australian Statistician Brian Pink. Because of my admitted conflict of interest (see the Talk page), I would particularly appreciate a couple of unrelated editors looking it over. I'm looking for a few things to link in, but general style comments are as welcome as any possible NPOV issues. Thanks, Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 12:57, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Hillview Manor Saga
What is wrong with the article? The msg states it will be abandoned unless edited and sourced.

I have edited. I have sent it off to an attorney twice for review and minor changes were made.

I wrote the article myself. I have listed multiple sources. Why is it considered abandoned?

 * It's still marked as abandoned because it's still got the template in it, likewise it's still marked as having issues (such as needing sources) because the other template that lists issues is still there. I notice that you have edited it, so technically the abandoned template could be removed, but a quick look at the article itself suggests to me that the issues have not been fully dealt with - the sources are there, although you did something weird when entering the information into the template so that will need to be fixed, the title still needs to be changed to a more "newsy" one, it really needs to be fixed stylistically, and I'm not 100% convinced that it's been written from a neutral point of view. Later I may attempt to deal with the first three, but I'm not sure about the last. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 23:22, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

page started, now gone!?
I started http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/South_Australian_educational_blog_shut_down but it is no longer on wiki news. 3 days ago it had been edited by 3 people, now it is gone, as is any mention of it in my contributions list. --Leighblackall - (talk) 04:14, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry It was marked abandoned so I deleted it. But it is now restored. My apologies. I Should have looked better. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Crikey Dragon, that was quick. I thought old news was kept as a news archive btw..? how does that work? What happens to history? This story is still happening btw.. I'll try to keep it as up to date as I can.. --Leighblackall - (talk) 04:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Only published news is in the archives. The history is still there...but if it had stayed deleted, then the history is gone as well. But when restored, all is restored. No problem. I know you are working on it now, so i will keep my hands off ;-) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries Dragon, I'm ok with it. Good on ya for keeping watch and reponding so quickly.. how can I get this published by the way? It is big news in the online education circles but they are all into their blogs and wikispaces, so I can't get them over into MediaWiki too easily.. could you help me get it published? --Leighblackall - (talk) 04:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Letter of assignment or approval
I would like to know whether Wikinews do issue letter of assignment to their reporters and editors as a sign to acknowledge them and certify that they are representative from Wikinews?
 * This has been done in the past. I have written a couple of letters for Wikinewsies, but there is no way on this Earth I'd do it for someone who had not established a reputation on the project first. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:48, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Seeking a Wikinewsie mentor
Hi, I started my first news brief the other day and would like the advice of an experienced Wikinews contributor. Getting started is a bit intimidating. Please respond at my user talk page. Thanks! Durova - (talk) 15:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

New article, publication assistance needed
The article I wrote Media reports exaggerate cell phone cancer risk has been published but it's still only linked to from the story preparation page. The main page is full protected; would someone please list it with today's articles? Durova - (talk) 21:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * stories are listed on the main page automatically when published, and thus dont need editing to put on the front page. try purging the page to get the latest update. --Mark Talk to me 21:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you very much. Durova - (talk) 21:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Men's News Daily picked up our story (and attributed it properly). Durova - (talk) 20:27, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Ready for publication
How do you mark an article as ready to be published? I finished one, but I have never published on Wikinews before. 12.152.160.239 16:30, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If you are sure it is OK to be published add Publish to the page. If you think it is ready add ready to the page --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) 16:38, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

4000 year old gold artifact discovered in Peru
I've tried my hand at a third article, currently in development with three sources. Would an experienced Wikinewsie give this a look? I think it's about ready for publication, but am still pretty new at this. Thanks, Durova - (talk) 19:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've made a few small edits, it looks pretty good. My only request would be that you WikiLink to Wikipedia articles on things like the University, the city, etcetera. I doubt there's a freely-licensed image out there? Sherurcij 19:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, will do. And yes, no free image - unless we use a photo of the Peru landscape. Durova - (talk) 19:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

of excavations at Jiskairumoko. needs to be commons-ified and used. –Doldrums(talk) 19:30, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. :) Durova - (talk) 20:20, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Re-using a dormant account?
Hi. I own the "Heron" account on en.wikipedia.org, and I'd like to open an account with the same name here on Wikinews. The problem is that there is already an account with that name, although it has no contributions and no user page. How do I go about requesting to take that account over, please? --81.86.175.16 11:10, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

 * You get the attention of a bureaucrat, either on their Talk page, on IRC, or on WN:AAA, and request to usurp the account. I highly recommend User:Brianmc for efficiency, customer service, and a mint left on your pillow following usurpation. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 14:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Although I see Brian is currently not available, so you may want to go to Special:ListUsers and pick Group: Bureaucrats, unless you want to follow one of my other suggestions. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 14:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

 * You should request the usurption over here: Changing username. Brianmc is on wikibreak, but Cspurrier handles most of these anyway. --SVTCobra 14:10, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the speedy advice, guys. I shall try Changing username first. --RealHeron - (talk) 17:58, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Using the news paper here for stories

 * moved from WN:WC/Policy

I'm from Gambia, the smallest country on the African continent. This is apparent from how often it is ignored. Check out its last article, written in 2007. I wanna do something about this because its ridiculous that my country doesnt seem to exist to the rest of the world. I myself would go out and do the research but i don't have the time or resources. What i wanted to know is if i could take the articles from one of the 3 newspapers of this country and post them on this site?

 * We would be very happy to hear from your side of the world more often! We don't have any active contributors from Africa, as far as I know. You can't post articles from other newspapers directly. You can however write your own summary based on articles from these 3 newspapers, and write the story in your own words (simply translating would violate copyright, you have to summarise in your own words). Make sure to provide links to your sources online. A short article (for example, 2 to 3 paragraphs) is the best to begin. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 16:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Just created an article on Gambia at Former Managing Director of Gambian newspaper appears in court.--Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 17:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll try to look for sources on Gambia and do an article on that topic within a day or so. I'm on a Africa kick lately. Cirt - (talk) 17:29, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Here are two good sources for Gambia news stories  --Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 17:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Good sources - but maybe we should continue further detailed discussion on this topic at the talk page of Portal:Gambia. Cirt - (talk) 17:38, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Israel undergoes major emergency drill
This article could use a lot more work and at least 1 or 2 more sources, I did some formatting but I don't have time for more at the moment. If nothing has been done on it I will come back to it later, but it's not really ready for publish just yet. Cirt - (talk) 10:49, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

accreditation of photographers
Does somebody know how I could apply for a wikinews photographer accreditation? Thanks.--Mbz1 - (talk) 03:40, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Technically there is no Photographer Accredidation here. There's been a lot of discussion on possibly getting Commons to issue photographer accredidations, but nothing has been done on it yet. Thunderhead 04:16, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * This is also something that the Collaborative Media Network was formed to solve. See for a basic outline. --Skenmy(t•c•w) 10:03, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you,Thunderhead and Skenmy.--Mbz1 - (talk) 18:52, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I have just created a page at CMN on photographer accreditation. FInd it here

how to fix broken source template
<!Type in a subject in the white box above, then write any question that is ONLY about assistance on Wikinews under this line. --> I am having problem with fixing a broken template on a page i created, how do i fix it?--Wendywaide - (talk) 12:23, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

filtering news items
How do I get all/only news items related to politics in US between the Jan and March of this year? thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 117.195.3.207 (talk • contribs)

Question Requests for 2008 Taipei 101 Run Up
Please see this because it's a provisioned schedule I just got from CTRRA. Brock contact... 04:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Request correction
Cambridge, Mass., city council recommends construction firm W. R. Grace remain under DEP supervision for asbestos contamination needs a correction or notice of an error: The line about the "US Department of Environmental Protection" is erroneous, the DEP is an agency of the State of Massachusetts. The United States agency is the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). This should be corrected or a correction added. Thanx, 68.39.174.238 16:38, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅. Cirt (talk) 02:56, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Charley wilson's war
Requesting a fresh set of eyes on Charley wilson's war. What do you do with a page like this? Durova (talk) 02:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅, deleted as No context, not news. Cirt (talk) 02:53, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Durova (talk) 02:58, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

2008 COMPUTEX & WiMAX Expo, the FINAL WARNING.....
I know that someone reverted my publish in my COMPUTEX articles, but in the presence, its schedule is merely close because next Tuesday (June 3) is the Opening Day, in my object: at least one or two articles in the series should be pushed into the main page, but it my have several opposes because no one want to pay more attentions to COMPUTEX, the 2nd largest IT show in the world. I have claimed the official schedule and archived them into Wikinews Mailists, but if no one still looked down its importance, "no English posts will be added during the show hours"! B/C I didn't see any efficiency on my participations except for politics articles. In addition, see User talk:Munchkinguy. Brock contact... 06:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * BTW, to say or not, should two topics - Press Corps @ Meta and Scheduled attendance for Wikinews or Commons @ Meta be resumed? Brock contact... 07:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Story Update Request
On September 21, 2007, WikiNews published a story on MIT student Star Simpson.

The story includes the following statements:

 * Massport spokeswoman Lisa Langone described the device as a fake bomb</Font> strapped to her chest.

 * "This is a serious event and was <Font Color="Maroon">handled quickly</Font> and safely."

 * Simpson was arraigned today on charges including disturbing the peace and <Font Color="Maroon">possessing a hoax device</Font>.

Each of the above three statements leave <Font Color="Maroon">open questions</Font> which have now been definitively answered.

At the 11:00 AM news conference mentioned in the WikiNews article, Major Scott Pare of the Massachusetts State Police reported to the press that the device was found to be harmless. Here is the relevant sentence from the concurrent story in the Boston Globe:

 * Simpson was arrested, and it was quickly determined that the device was harmless.

The Commonwealth of Massachusetts continued the charge of felony possession of a "hoax device" in the East Boston Courtroom of Judge Paul Mahoney for nine months, never bringing the case to trial.

On Monday 2 May, 2008, the Commonwealth vacated the felony "hoax device" charge after Suffolk County District Attorney Daniel Conley concluded the State could not go forward with the case.

In view of the principles of Ethics in Journalism and WikiNews' own ethical guidelines, please publish a follow-up story so the the world-wide readers of WikiNews will not be left with an unfavorable impression of Star Simpson (or the impression that the Commonwealth of Massachusetts ever had a case at all).

More Information

 * Comment on WikiNews Story of September 21, 2007

 * Further talk page discussion on WikiNews

 * Talk page discussion on the English Wikipedia

 * Off-Wiki Op-Ed Commentary

Moulton (talk) 10:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Moulton
Moulton appears to be willing to help wiki-news in this matter; but he needs assistance. I am encouraging him to get involved here. (WAS 4.250 at the English language Wikipedia) 4.250.177.164 11:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Drop the Dead Donkey --Brian McNeil / talk 12:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

 * I don't understand the point of Brian's reference to a British TV series. Moulton (talk) 22:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

 * I speak very little Brian, but I believe he's saying "it's an issue that is past its time and should be allowed to rest rather than being discussed any further". He can correct me if I misinterpreted there. I, however, think that while current policy says "there is no news in this, therefore there is nothing to talk about", I think it's worth pointing out that we do already have process in place to issue a correction to an article in situations where there is another article that can be linked to. Should we have something to allow a small correction box to be added to an article, that basically says "at the time of writing X was believed true, Y has now come to light"? It's a small thing to do, and my interpretation of NPOV says that it may even be necessary in some circumstances (speaking in general terms here, not specifically on this article). Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 09:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Chris pretty much got it. The story is deceased, notnews. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:50, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

 * What appears to be needed here is some kind of correction/update box that says, "At the time this story was originally filed, WikiNews reported unchallenged assertions by the officials of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts from which they have since retreated and vacated. Specifically, the District Attorney has concluded, after nine months of continuances, that the felony charges filed last September against MIT undergraduate Star Simpson cannot go forward because the State has no evidence to prove intent to deceive under the defining language of the Commonwealth's "Hoax Device" statute.  Suffolk County District Attorney Daniel F. Conley conceded that 1) the defendant clearly had no such intent and 2) the security staff at Logan had "quickly determined the [illuminated named tag] device was harmless" at the time of the arrest (as reported by the Boston Globe at 1:15 PM on the day of the arrest, based on an 11AM news conference by Major Scott Pare of the Massachusetts State Police.) Moulton (talk) 12:47, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Photo Help
How can I add photos from Wikimedia Commons to my articles?
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the education header could look a lot better like the rest. --72.73.72.27 10:04, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * created a new header. Thanks for the suggestion. Anonymous101 (talk) 15:59, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

looks great --72.73.72.27 16:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

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Your looking at a sports fan and news fan overall --Crogan (talk) 10:09, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I will now attempt to write articles for the project wish me luck. --Crogan (talk) 10:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you for fixing my stupidity. Happy editing Bawolff ☺☻ 10:47, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

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Philippines ferry disaster: ship owner sues over toxic cargo; recovery deadline set & more

July 8, 2008 Several new developments have occurred surrounding the loss of Philippine ferry MV Princess of the Stars, which capsized and sank on June 21 during a severe storm. The loss near island during, known locally as Frank, killed more than 800 of those on board.

Ship owner Sulpicio Lines has sued Philippines for failing to declare a cargo of the dangerous pesticide  that was on board. Sulpicio yesterday sued the Board of Marine Inquiry (BMO) for allegedly making comments contributing to negative publicity surrounding the line and asked a court to stop the body continuing its investigation, saying it no longer had any authority. Today, that request was denied.

Another outcome of today's proceedings is a deadline for Sulpicio to recover the ship. The company has ninety days to ensure the recovery operation is complete.

Yesterday, an eight-page complaint was filed against Del Monte at Manila City's regional trial court. It alleges that Del Monte violated the line's terms by failing to inform Sulpicio that the shipment included edosulfan. The line notes that any toxic cargo should have been declared. Suplicio is seeking 5.5 million from the company for alleged negligence.

"Due to Del Monte’s deceit and non-disclosure, plaintiff was led to believe that the subject shipment of Endosulfan was a regular cargo. Had defendant Del Monte disclosed the toxic nature of the cargo, plaintiff would not have loaded the same on board a passenger-cargo vessel, be it MV Princess of the Paradise or MV Princess of the Stars," said a statement by Suplicio. The exact total sought as damages is P549,661.11, which accounts for the correct rate for shipping if the toxic cargo had been declared, plus double rates as punitive measures. On top of those damages sought is P3 million to cover specialist recovery required for the chemical, P1 million in moral damges for lost corporate goodwill and damage to Sulpicio's reputation, P500,000 in moral damages for Sulpicio marketing vice president and shareholder Jordan L. Go, P200,000 in exemplary damages and P300,000 in legal costs.

The discovery that the ship was carrying the endosulfan shipment, which totaled 10 metric tons, led to a ban on fishing in the nearby town of and an emergency cessation of  activities, which were mostly being conducted by divers. The pesticide is banned in many countries and is subject to various regulations in the Philippines. Water samples from the wreck site show that thus far the pesticide has not leaked.

A specialist joint team is set to arrive soon from the European Union and the to assist with opearations relating to the pesticide, which is a.

The Philippine Coast Guard yesterday awarded some 42 staff divers and six civilian volunteer divers for their work at the Princess of the Stars. They were particularly praised for being keen to return to work. They are awaiting the results of tests for exposure to endosulfan.

Endosulfan is one of the items set for retrieval in a new deadline set by the government task force overseeing the disaster. Sulpicio must also recover the remaining bodies and the unused fuel on board within 90 days. Sulpicio had initially offered to have the job done in 164 days, but Transportation Undersecretary Elena Bautista rejected this proposal, saying "Out of humanitarian reasons, I told them not to prolong the agony of the victims' relatives all the way to Christmas." Sulpicio was given until Wednesday to name the salvage contractor who would be responsible for recovering the ship, after which they were to submit their retrieval plans to the International Maritime Organisation.

Sulpicio was also given the option of simply towing the ship closer to shore to do the recovery instead of refloating it, which they have opted for. In Bautista's words: "Based on the Sulpicio report this morning, their plan now is to just tow the vessel to the shore, get the hazardous materials out, get the fuel out, and get the people out and I think that would be more cost-effective and most practical because that can be done, maybe within a month, as compared to refloating, which would probably take three months."

Sulpicio is currently considering three different potential salvors, which remain unnamed. They have been told that the company needs to have expertise suitable enough to ensure marine life is not harmed and hazardous materials are not spilled. There is a possibility that the planned towing will damage nearby coral. It is already confirmed by the coastguard that oil onboard cannot leak. Most of the 250,000 litres of bunker fuel are in the service tank, which is considered safe. Only the small amount of oil in the base tank may leak but oil spill containment booms are already in place should this occur.

The government has said that, had Sulpicio not made provisions to get the salvage done, then they would have performed the operation themselves. Had this occurred, Sulpicio would have been charged for it, with the bill estimated at P100 million.

One aspect of another legal case was resolved today. Sulpicio had questioned the authority of the BMI to conduct investigations, instead saying only the Maritime Industry Authority (MARINA) had the right to do so, and pointing to a separate inquiry started by MARINA. However, a hearing today found that the BMI and MARINA serve different roles. The BMI's role is solely to determine the cause of marine accidents. MARINA's purpose is more concerned with regulations, and is mainly investigating the role of Sulpicio themselves. "We are looking at why we should not cancel the company’s franchise," explained MARINA Administrator Vicente Suazo Jr.

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Source dates
Why do the sources all say they are from yesterday, even though some talk of developments happening 'Tuesday'? Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It turns out they were all July 8. --SVTCobra 21:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

 * And I misread them? That would make sense. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Well, I don't know if you clicked on them ... but they were all listed as July 7 when they should have been July 8. I changed them. --SVTCobra 22:12, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I did the main bulk of the writing on this one, but I'm more awake now then I was then. It seemed odd that every last one was a day out; I'd misinterpreted something then only registerd the exact same date showing on all. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Philippine peso
My browser does not support the character for the Philippine peso which is supposed to look like this. If this is a widespread problem, we should probably replace with "PHP" which is the ISO 4217 code for this currency. --SVTCobra 21:41, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Which browser are you using? If it's Firefox then we should probably change it. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Alas, it is IE, but it is the latest version 7.0.5730.13. Can you see the P character with the lines through it? What browser are you using, if you don't mind me asking. --SVTCobra 22:09, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

 * I'm also on IE7, and yeah, the symbol shows up fine. I'm thinking perhaps you may not have the right language pack installed? Another laptop in the house, again in IE7, dosn't display properly on checking, so perhaps we should be changing it. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:13, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Wikipedia says:
 * It would be nice to hear from someone using Firefox, though. --SVTCobra 22:21, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It would be nice to hear from someone using Firefox, though. --SVTCobra 22:21, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

 * That's probably too OR to be there, but it's handy all the same. Sounds like enough people struggleto change it to PHP in the first instance, and thereafter simply P. I'll go do the honours. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:31, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

 * I just downloaded Firefox and for your information, the character does render, but "PHP" is the safe way to go. But, wow, do I hate Firefox's default fonts. --SVTCobra 22:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


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Antiglobalization protestors march near site of G8 summit

July 8, 2008 Hundreds of antiglobalization protesters marched on the streets of Sapporo, Japan, around the scene of the current G8 summit. The 2008 G8 summit, a gathering of the leaders of France, United States, United Kingdom, Russia, Germany, Japan, Italy and Canada, began yesterday in Sapporo, Japan.

Some of the protesters were wearing helmets and masks, and according to NECN.com, were shouting "crash the summit."

There was a large police presence at the scene of the protests, with some of the officers being equipped with riot gear. They claimed that some of the protests violated Japanese law.

In addition to the protests, activists in Mali held the Poor People's Summit at a time to coincide with the G8 summit.


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the obs header is a little scary for some kids that might come on here. just my opinion. the skulls --72.73.72.27 16:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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oh ok --72.73.72.27 16:22, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

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Possibly link this ? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 22:43, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Wrong info and missing events
This page lists John Fiedler, voice of Piglet, dying on June 9, 2009. He died on June 25, 2005. And where's Farrah? How is this page maintained? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.22.154.184 (talk) 22:07, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Due to the way DPL works, the John Fiedler story is showing up in recent news because the story was recently edited. Sorry, it is a software problem. We did not have an obituary for Farrah Fawcett. Perhaps you can blame Michael Jackson for hogging the contributors' attention. --SVTCobra 22:15, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

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Talk:Football: Kežman goes to Fenerbahçe

Please remove the image which has been deleted from Commons. The image which has been recently deleted there is actually a different image to that which was originally used, that one was also deleted. Both images were unfree images lacking source information and as such they wouldn't qualify as fair use here because the copyright holder has to be identified. Adambro (talk) 16:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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Please change category "North American football" to "Canadian football". Thanks, Maxim (talk)  17:27, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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Comments:Antiglobalization protestors march near site of G8 summit

Sounds like fun...

Kind of sad that the "hate group" anonymous is the only group smart enough to know how to protest legally (without leaders too). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.183.106.150 (talk) 05:50, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

it's terrible

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ONLY IN AFRICA !!!

Now what could have went wrong at SADC? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.102.171 (talk) 18:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

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Bolivia road crash leaves at least 47 dead

July 9, 2008

A road crash in Bolivia has left at least 47 people dead. It is unclear if the vehicle was a bus or a truck with passengers on its back, but it is known it lost control on a mountainous South Bolivian road and fell 200 metres down a cliff.

The accident occurred near Potosi, a mining town. "The truck was loaded with 60 people who were sitting on top of their loads, which crushed them when the truck fell," according to Erbol radio station, while BBC News Online has an image showing debris that appears to be a shed load from a truck, but not of the actual vehicle for confirmation.

Local police say they have identified 41 dead and released their names, but six further bodies remain to be identified. At least twelve of the deceased are children, and at least eleven people are injured.

There is no official word regarding the disaster's cause, but local witnesses have claimed to reporters that the vehicle was traveling at excessive speed.


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Six dead, including assailants, in attack on U.S. Consulate in Istanbul

July 9, 2008

Several men fired on Turkish police officers outside the United States Consulate in Istanbul, Turkey today at 11 a.m. local time. The men have yet to be identified.

Turkish officials say three police officers and three of the assailants were killed during the gunfight. The fight lasted two minutes, with one of the officers dying at the scene and the other two dying later of bullet wounds at the hospital. Several other Turkish policemen were injured. No Americans were reportedly harmed in the attack.

According to Turkish authorities, two of the assailants used pistols and one used a shotgun; all three died. Another assailant escaped by car unharmed.

The attackers have been described as terrorists by Turkish officials. Turkish President Abdullah Gül has strongly denounced the attack.

The United States Ambassador to Turkey, Ross Wilson said in a statement: "It is, of course, inappropriate now to speculate on who may have done this or why. It is an obvious act of terrorism.  Our countries will stand together and confront this, as we have in the past."


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UK mathematician Nick Higham wins Fröhlich Prize

July 10, 2008

The London Mathematical Society anncouced this week that the Fröhlich Prize has been awarded to Professor Nicholas Higham FRS, of the School of Mathematics, University of Manchester, in recognition of his leading contributions to numerical linear algebra and numerical stability analysis.

The Fröhlich Prize is awarded in even numbered years in memory of Albrecht Fröhlich. The prize is awarded for original and extremely innovative work in any branch of mathematics. According to the regulations, the prize is awarded "to a mathematician who has fewer than 25 years (full time equivalent) of involvement in mathematics at post-doctoral level, allowing for breaks in continuity, or who in the opinion of the Fröhlich Prize Committee is at an equivalent stage in their career."

From early in his career in 1980 Higham became well-known in the numerical linear algebra community for his work on computing square roots of matrices and estimating matrix condition numbers. According to the citation for the award, his pattern of research is characterized by "identifying a fundamental computational problem; analysing the algorithms that have been proposed already for it; finding a key improvement that leads to a better algorithm, often surprising experts who thought the problem was already solved; proving theoretically that the new algorithm works; implementing it in software; and publishing a definitive paper on the subject that is a model of scholarship and clarity."

Higham has also made major contributions to other areas of numerical linear algebra, including component-wise perturbation theory, computation of the polar decomposition and the matrix sign decomposition, the practical aspects of fast matrix multiplication, the solution of matrix nearness problems, the stability of Cholesky factorization, theory and algorithms for generalized and polynomial eigenvalue problems, and the solution of Vandermonde systems. He has also contributed to of the theory and computation of functions of matrices, on which he has recently published a book entitled Functions of Matrices: Theory and Computation.

Higham was born in Salford, UK and grew up in Eccles, a suburb of Manchester. He is a graduate of the University of Manchester, having received his BA in 1982, MSc in 1983 and PhD in 1985. His PhD thesis was entitled Nearness Problems in Numerical Linear Algebra; his supervisor was George Hall.

Higham is Director of Research within the School of Mathematics, Director of the Manchester Institute for Mathematical Sciences (MIMS) and Head of the Numerical Analysis Group. He held a prestigious Royal Society Wolfson Research Merit Award (2003-2008) and is on the Institute for Scientific Information Highly Cited Researcher list.


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Conflict of Interest?
Billion, you have stated that you are an agent of the School of Mathematics, University of Manchester. Do you have a conflict of interest with regards to Professor Higham? --SVTCobra 14:40, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well possibly. I do work in the same department (but not group) which is how I came about the story. Maybe we should wait to see if anyone less connected can go over the article in case I have introduced any bias? Billlion (talk) 14:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I nixed the part that looked iffy, the irrelevant comment about the "vision directive". Nyarlathotep (talk) 00:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Remaining problems
There is a claim of Original Reporting for this article. This requires notes; please see WN:OR. Also, there is an extraordiarly lengthy quote which I have to guess comes from the off-line source that has been cited. Naturally, I cannot confirm this text, which is nearly half the article. Lastly, what is the point of listing the University of Manchester's 2015 goals as a source? --SVTCobra 01:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, notes to follow. I was not sure what to do with the offline source. How about I move the quote to here as part of the notes than paraphrase it. Partly the point was that this was the LMS saying positive things about him, which is slightly their POV eg "often surprising experts who thought the problem was already solved; proving theoretically that the new algorithm works; implementing it in software; and publishing a definitive paper on the subject that is a model of scholarship and clarity". The 2015 goals, the point here is that they are hiring lots of new people from outside who have one significant prizes as part of these goals, and so I felt it was interesting that they could "grow their own" as well. The link is to confirm that this is their plan! Billlion (talk) 08:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The long quote is the only issue I can see with this. I would suggest trimming it to just the first paragraph, moving the second paragraph to talk and summing it up in some reasonably non-technical way. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:28, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

 * The template, Apasource may be used to cite a book or journal which is not available online. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:37, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I stripped the 2015 goals as unrelated.  Nyarlathotep (talk) 15:35, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Original Reporting Notes

 * Nick Higham's wife confirmed that he grew up and went to School and in Eccles, and was born in a hospital in Salford. Billlion (talk) 09:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I obtained the citation from the LMS, it has more detail than the press release. This is the section I quoted
 * Higham became well known in the numerical linear algebra community from the start of his career in the 1980s with his work on computing square roots of matrices and estimating matrix condition numbers. In these contributions he set a pattern which he has followed with great success and impact in subsequent years: identifying a fundamental computational problem; analysing the algorithms that have been proposed already for it; finding a key improvement that leads to a better algorithm, often surprising experts who thought the problem was already solved; proving theoretically that the new algorithm works; implementing it in software; and publishing a definitive paper on the subject that is a model of scholarship and clarity.

 * Other numerical linear algebra topics to which Higham has made major contributions include componentwise perturbation theory, computation of the polar decomposition and the matrix sign decomposition, the practical aspects of fast matrix multiplication, the solution of matrix nearness problems, the stability of Cholesky factorization, theory and algorithms for generalized and polynomial eigenvalue problems, and the solution of Vandermonde systems. In addition he has made major contributions to the subject of the theory and computation of functions of matrices, on which he has recently published a book that will define the field: Functions of Matrices: Theory and Computation.Billlion (talk) 09:36, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


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G8 members release statement on Zimbabwe

July 9, 2008 A statement has been released by member states of the G8 expressing 'grave concern' over the current situation in Zimbabwe.

In the first section of the statement, the leaders wrote that they "deplore the fact that the Zimbabwean authorities pressed ahead with the presidential election despite the absence of appropriate conditions for free and fair voting as a result of their systematic violence, obstruction and intimidation." Furthermore, the G8 member nations noted that they do "not accept the legitimacy of any government that does not reflect the will of the Zimbabwean people."

The statement continued by asking for the opposition party Movement for Democratic Change to co-operate with ZANU-PF, the party in power. "We strongly urge the Zimbabwean authorities to work with the opposition to achieve a prompt, peaceful resolution of the crisis," they said. They did, add, however, that "it is important that any mediation process respect the results of the March 29, 2008 election. "

In addition, the G8 members expressed concern at the humanitarian situation in the country. "Zimbabwean authorities must allow the immediate resumption of humanitarian operations and full and non-discriminatory access to humanitarian assistance to prevent the suffering of the most vulnerable people in Zimbabwe."

The G8 summit is an annual gathering of the leaders of France, the United States, the United Kingdom, Russia, Germany, Japan, Italy and Canada. This year, the 34th G8 summit took place in Tōyako, Japan.


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Please note that wikinews articles need to be longer than String theory proven wrong?. At the very least they should address who, what, when, where,why, and how. When did string theory get proven wrong, who proved it wrong, where was this theory that it is false proposed, what is wrong with the theory (as well what is string theory), etc. Thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 16:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

 * The more sources I give the more Brian begins bitching and moaning. He must be the worst contributor I have ever seen in my :life. Such a deletionist! He should be banned from having any priviliges for any gate-keeping.
 * He is even too dumb-witted to understand the news that is passing before his own eyes.
 * I will not be trying any more. If Wikinews does not want to break any stories, I do not want to break them with Wikinews.
 * Moreover, I will not let this guy critise work he has no business with criticizing. If you're all kept in the dark, you know who :to blame- the deletionists...--Bugliosi Fan (talk) 17:08, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

How can one even delete news? funny... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bugliosi Fan (talk • contribs)
 * Brian is not gate-keeping, he is following policy. It is obvious that the story does not document current events and it should therefore be deleted. Anonymous101 (talk) 17:11, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Why is this obvious? . —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bugliosi Fan (talk • contribs)
 * OK, it may not be obvious but an article with the latest source dated 2 months ago does not seem to show news Anonymous101 (talk) 17:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

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Sense of actuality
This kind of science does not have daily reports This string theory has been around since the nineteen seventies. And now you say I can't use something from May this year as a news source
 * Something does not qualify as news unless it is from the last few days Anonymous101 (talk) 17:25, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

 * OK I can follow you on that. I propose to link this directory as a recent and substantial directory containing all of the above and more;--Bugliosi Fan (talk) 17:29, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * M.M. Fiorentino appears to be just a hobbyist. His claims have not yet been published in any respected scientific journal. (to my knowledge) Anonymous101 (talk) 17:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but this is besides the question. The question is: Is string theory proven wrong?

When this philosopher and software engineer will finally publish his final theory; the news headline shall read:

String theory proven wrong!

Until then this is introductory.--Bugliosi Fan (talk) 17:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * But what a hobbyist says is not news. I could say that the sun is made of cauliflower but it wouldn't be notable as I am not known in that field. Anonymous101 (talk) 17:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

 * But he is in fact notable in the theorethical field per inclusion in the Imagineers Chronicles July 1st 2008 --Bugliosi Fan (talk) 17:56, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * So he is notable as he has been included in a blog?Anonymous101 (talk) 18:11, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Two completely unrelated blogs, yes. This is a first sign.
 * Moreover, the specific 'mission statement' of the 'blogs' is certainly not be be overlooked --Bugliosi Fan (talk) 18:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The blog doesn' seem to care if something is notable and the wiki can be edited by anyone, and I think it could have been Fiorentino. Anonymous101 (talk) 18:29, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

The blog doesn' seem to care if something is notable

Notability is implied, ofcourse, by the action of actually mentioning the thing in question...

I think it could have been Fiorentino

The directory, as is said at the bottom, seems to be maintained for now by the non-profit website T.O.E. Certified —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bugliosi Fan (talk • contribs)
 * But anyone, including Florentino is able to edit the directory. Anonymous101 (talk) 13:57, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

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Please stop adding links to softonline.com as most of the pages seem to be copyright violations and many of them are added to late. In addition, sources should only be added if they are used in the article. Anonymous101 (talk) 16:49, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

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Category talk:Canadian football

This page was previously subject to a deletion request. The result was merge to North american football. See Deletion_requests/Archives/Deleted_Archive_11. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Hurricane Bertha strengthens over Atlantic Ocean

This hurricane is now down to a minimal Category 1. Can we have an article update or have it removed from the lead? Mike Halterman (talk) 19:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

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 * ✅ Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk) 23:18, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


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Talk:Declassified records show American involvement in South Korean mass killings

Well, I think we've done some nice collaboration on this one :). One question though: "authoritarian presidency of Park Chung-hee". I would have thought it relativly universally agreed that it was a dictatorship. I'm not to well versed in Korean history, but from accounts I had been given I didn't think there was much resembling democratic elements... but I guess I better check - over at Wikipedia :D. Regards Sean Heron (talk) 21:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Not only is this talk page now at the wrong place, but Wikipedia tells me a better! Presidential elections, so I guess it probably wasn't a dictatorship. Sean Heron (talk) 21:47, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


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Polish leaders discuss the anti-missile shield negotiations

July 10, 2008 , the prime minister of Poland, met today with President to discuss the current state of the Polish-US  negotiations. The meeting, held in the and proposed by Kaczyński, lasted two hours and ended at about 19:15 UTC. Donald Tusk did not want to talk with the journalists afterwards and there was no official press statement issued.

Prior the appointment, the PM denied a report by the daily "Polska", which claimed that the United States government had broken off the negotiations with Poland and opened negotiations with Lithuania.

"I have enough information to say that the Polish-US talks are taken seriously by both sides" Tusk told reporters. "There were no last-chance meetings. Such a serious project requires arrangements which can take months to make. I do not recommend rushing," he said.

, the Undersecretary of State for political affairs in the, also confirmed that the negotiations continue.

"It's nonsense. We haven't broken off the negotiations. The meeting between the Condoleezza Rice and the   was positive and constructive. We are convinced that there are some prospects and we are still ready to negotiate with Poland," he said.

According to a reporter with online news service newspaper, the president did not leave  immediately after his appointment with Tusk.

Shortly after the PM left the palace, the Secretary of State at the President's Chancellery and the minister  were seen coming to meet the President. They left the palace about 21:00 UTC.


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In this diff in the edit history of Dr. Scott Herman of South Florida's Tropical Chiropractic Completes Wellness Mission to Ecuador, you suggested it amounted to original reporting and asked for guidence. Therefore, I suggest you read Original reporting. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:46, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

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Iran conducts nine missile tests

July 9, 2008 The Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard has conducted a missile test exercise, in which nine missiles of three different types were launched simultaneously. The exercise, known as Great Prophet III was conducted early this morning from an undisclosed location near to the Strait of Hormuz. One of the missiles launched was an upgraded version of the Shahab-3, capable of reaching Eastern European countries like Bulgaria and Greece as well and Middle Eastern countries such as Israel, Egypt and the Arabian Peninsula. Eight shorter range Zelzal and Fateh missiles were also launched.

The Iranians have been under international pressure to withraw from their plans of achieving nuclear proficiency, but have rejected putting a hold on their programme and have also been moving forward with their rocketry programme.

The test is believed to have been a reaction to Israeli and American military exercises, which the Iranian government believed to be training for an attack on facilities related to the Iranian nuclear development programme. In addition to these tests, Iran's first indigenous satellite launch attempt, which will place the Omid spacecraft into low Earth orbit, is expected immanently. A successful satellite launch would demonstrate that Iran's missiles have global reach.

The tests have been widely criticised by the international community. The British government stated that it "underlines the need for Iran to comply with its international obligations on the nuclear issue", and that the test was "unwelcome". The French ministry of defence suggested that "these missile tests can only reinforce the concerns of the international community", and the German government described the exercise as "regrettable". Israeli housing minister Ze'ev Boim told the Israeli parliament that Israel should "prepare itself to do what is needed to do", implying the need for a military resolution.

The United States government claims that the test was "evidence that the missile threat is not an imaginary one". American presidential candidate John McCain suggested that it justified US proposals to construct a missile defence system in Eastern Europe, whilst his opponent Barack Obama described Iran's missile programme as a "great threat". Russia, however called for diplomacy, stating that they believe Iran to be "ready for negotiations", and Israel's Prime Minister issued a statement saying that he had "no desire for conflict or hostilities with Iran".

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Comments:Declassified records show American inaction during South Korean mass killings

Why is it that when we "interfere" with hostile governments (i.e. Iraq) we're spat upon and protested against; but when we don't interfere (ref this article) we're blamed for it?

I don't understand? 22:52, 9 July 2008 (UTC) Holly, Alaska USA

 * The United States was openly allied with the South Korean government at the time. So to have knowledge of the killings and not object was a Cold War political decision, but one that doesn't really reflect a notion of liberty and justice for all. --SVTCobra 23:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

100k killed by their own goverment. But how many were killed by the North? And how many under Chinese supervision? --66.229.34.63 03:08, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Note that 100,000 is the low end estimate. Mass executions without trial are a little different than battle casualties. It is also worth remembering that Korea was only then coming out of Japanese occupation and was very weak, and the degree of U.S. involvement is not that of an ally to a fully functioning government, but of one propping it up. 72.154.53.29 04:12, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Was it the South Korean military killing South Koreans? Why are they blaiming the US advisors for inaction and not the South Korean military who were actually conducting he executions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.113.240.100 (talk) 17:08, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You are only correct in your description of the events; there is no general blame of the U.S. since that would be wrong. Investigators are identifying the role played by the U.S. in it, since U.S. forces were involved in several cases reviewed so far. When investigations are complete that will prompt further actions for both countries. 65.1.135.46 17:23, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh?
They can put that on their "Human Rights report". Things like these, and all the theatre behind Mugabe, are the reason why the US lost all credibility when it comes to this issue. The sad truth is, that the US and some of their "allies", are no better than the fallen Soviet Union. In the end of the day, for all those people in Armani suits, it's all about politics... For the general populace, it's life or death.

Hurray for "democracy". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.193.205.14 (talk) 07:40, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Iran conducts nine missile tests

Iran will be bomb before the end of the year.--66.229.34.63 00:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

And yet we sit here and don't do anything. INVADE NOW! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.240.53.112 (talk) 02:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That would make everything better, wouldn't it? Attack Iran due to the possibility that they may be preparing for war. The US has conducted missile tests, and no one is calling for war against the US. The US has way more nuclear weapons that Iran will ever have, yet you are not calling for a war against the US. Anonymous101 (talk) 16:15, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Isn't it strange how no-one reports on Qatar's nuclear program, while it and Iran both say they're working on nuclear power not nuclear weapons? --Firien (talk) 09:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Qatar National leader's foreign policy is not "wiping Israel off the face of the world" --66.229.34.63 12:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Neither has Iran's leader. That semi-famous oft repeated "quote" is a mistranslation of comments calling for change in the regime in Jerusalem. It is comparable to Bush's frequent comments on regime change for other areas. 68.210.66.192 15:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

What do you expect?
Hey, if I remember correctly, Israel recently did a military drill. I think what's going on here is that Iran's preparing to be attacked.

71.96.131.101 15:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

USA, please fucking nuke them already, before it's too late...

 * Wow, I hope that comment was left by someone under the age of 13---otherwise, shame on you! Obviously, what's needed here above all is communication. As long as world leaders spend all their time rattling sabres and preparing for the worst, nothing will ever change. --Wolf m corcoran (talk) 23:19, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


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Talk:Declassified records show American inaction during South Korean mass killings

Thank you all. I meant to develop this article more but became too busy. I am very happy to see your combined work here. Well done. 72.154.53.29 02:29, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Grammar school floods on Queensland's Sunshine Coast

WOW!!!
I actually go to Grammar and appreciate the photos of Grammar under flood. It is amazing looking at all those pictures of areas around the school. I wonder how deep the water was? I remember going to the Resource Centre the day after and they were sucking out all the water, it was truly amazing!!!


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Comments:Six dead, including assailants, in attack on U.S. Consulate in Istanbul

One of them escape. I thought they would love too Martyrdom themselves. --66.229.34.63 03:11, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


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Sudan ambush leaves seven peacekeepers dead, more than a dozen wounded

July 10, 2008 At least seven United Nations peacekeepers are dead, and nearly two dozen wounded, after Janjaweed militants in Darfur, Sudan, ambushed their convoy around 11:45 GMT. Five of those troops were from the African nation of Rwanda.

Troops fought with militants for over two hours after militants ambushed their convoy of 40 armoured vehicles. Sudanese media states that ten were wrecked beyond repair.

Hafiz Mohammed, who leads the Sudan program at Justice Africa in London, England, says the latest attack reflects the deteriorating security situation on the ground and that everyone in Sudan is at risk of being attacked. "The situation is very bad. Instead of actually protecting the civilians, they will end up not able even to protect themselves. It's sad to see this happening. It's going to discourage countries to contribute to the unit, which is creating problems. This is the security situation in Darfur, nobody is immune from being attacked," said Mohammed.

The U.N. has condemned the attack releasing a statement saying, "the secretary-general (Ban Ki-moon) condemns in the strongest possible terms this unacceptable act of extreme violence against AU-U.N. peacekeepers in Darfur and calls on the government of Sudan to do its utmost to ensure that the perpetrators are swiftly identified and brought to justice."

The peacekeepers are part of a joint African Union-U.N. mission aimed at putting 26,000 troops in the region. So far only around 10,000 of that planned mission have been ordered to the region. Countries unwilling to contribute forces, and constant government restrictions from Sudan, have contributed to the slow movement of troops to the region.


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Talk:Sudan ambush leaves seven peacekeepers dead, more than a dozen wounded

darfur is not the capital of sudan as stated in this topic!! is that a mistake a reliable website like wikipedia shuld make?

anyways,i hope it is to be modified Khartoum is the capital of sudan,while darfur is a union of three states western sudan near the chadian borders called"the grand states of darfur"

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British teenager finds baby bat in her bra

July 10, 2008

Abbie Hawkins, a Norwich, United Kingdom hotel receptionist, 19, has found a baby bat in her bra. Hawkins originally mistook the bat for her cellphone.

Hawkins said that she got dressed at 7:30 a.m. and arrived for work without noticing anything unusual. When she was driving to work, she felt a slight vibration, but she dismissed that as her mobile phone in her pocket. At around noon, Hawkins felt a strange movement inside her bra, which was hanging on her washing line the previous night.

Hawkins decided to investigate, and pulled out the baby bat, roughly the size of her hand, out of her bra. Commenting later on the baby bat, Hawkins said that "it looked very snug in there and I thought how mean I was for disturbing it." The baby bat was eventually released into the hotel's garden.

Jaime Eastham, of the Bat Conservation Trust, said that she has never heard of a bat being in a bra; however, bats will roost anywhere that looks dark and safe.


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British Airways give medals to Flight 38's crew

July 10, 2008 The three members of the flight crew and thirteen members of British Airways Flight 38 have been awarded with the BA Safety Medal. The airline considers the award to be its highest accolade and has only awarded it three times before.

On January 17 the Boeing 777 airliner was on final approach to Heathrow Airport with 136 passengers on board when it suffered a loss of engine power. The plane crash landed immediately beyond the perimeter fence, just before the start of the runway.

British Airways say that due to the crew's professionalism only minor injuries were sustained. The medals have been awarded for their handling of the accident.

Captain Peter Burkill, who was on board, said "It is a great privilege for us to receive the BA Safety Medal. We are extremely honoured to be added to the list of the very few people who have received this award. The training we undergo at British Airways is second to none. During the events of the 17 January these skills kicked in, as we did everything we could to ensure the safety of our passengers."


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What country is this in? --SVTCobra 13:57, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * UK Anonymous101 (talk)
 * Ok, but it was supposed to be a hint that something very basic in journalism was missing from the article. I guess that I need to be more literal. --SVTCobra 18:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Hoax/Publicity stunt
Given the staged photos used in these two sources: This story really stinks like a hoax/publicity stunt. --SVTCobra 18:36, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * http://new.edp24.co.uk/search/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=News&itemid=NOED07%20Jul%202008%2020:42:32:383&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=search
 * http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1033246/Receptionist-stunned-baby-bat-living-BRA.html

 * This does scream hoax/stunt but not because of the pictures. They just scream tabloid journalism! The storey is that they let the bat go long before the press arived. All the same, I am suspicious... Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:50, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The 'polite' term for publications such as the UK's Daily Mail is "Red Tops" because they generally have a significant amount of red in the title to try and catch your attention. In more common parlance they are the "gutter press". Tabloid is a newspaper format, but it is publications like the Mail that are best known for it and have made the term a slur. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:02, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

 * In this case EDP seems to be the originator of the story which everyone else more or less relied on.
 * Another thing, I don't know about the UK, but here in the US bats are considered to be prime carriers of rabies and if you come in contact with one you have to get rabies shots, which are a series of injections over several weeks, not a fun process. You can only avoid it if you catch and kill the bat and have it screened for rabies. None of these articles mention any dangers. It's not something you'd forget to mention if this really happened, but you might forget if you were making up a story. --SVTCobra 19:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

 * "Get me... a Sun, and something to read" pretty much sums it up. The Sun is, if possible even worse, but the same idea. We are less rabies-paranoid here in the UK. If bitten you might go for a check but it isn't compulsory, only when importing animals without pet passports. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:10, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Really? Rabies is 100% fatal by the time you have any symptoms. There is no test or way to check to see if you got it. Hence, rabies shots are mandatory here. I had a bat in my house once and two seperate health officials called and interviewed me to make sure I did not have direct physical contact. --SVTCobra 19:15, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

 * It's generally not a problem here. Rabies cases are rare enough to be national news. Pretty 'and also'-type national news, but there all the same. A lot of people view our efforts to stop animals bringing it in as OTT. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:26, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

The UK prides itself on being rabies-free, and the friendly tabloid screamers all said it would be re-introduced into the country if they dug a tunnel to France. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't tell me! They dug that tunnel anyway, didn't they? Don't they know that they are risking the lives of large-breasted British teenagers? Don't they know that baby bats feel just like mobile phones when they vibrate? --SVTCobra 00:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


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Talk:British Airways give medals to Flight 38's crew

I'm thinking it would be a good addition if we knew the three previous occasions the medal was awarded. I'm guessing Flight 5390 and Flight 9 (the two famous ones) and one other, but does anyone know? Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:UK mathematician Nick Higham wins Fröhlich Prize

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! MATH GUY, WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Fephisto (talk) 15:03, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I had no idea what all those words even mean! LOL. 216.208.32.197 19:59, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


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Iran tests more missiles as war games continue

July 10, 2008

The Iranian Great Prophet III war games exercise has continued into a second day, with several more missile and weapons tests being conducted, including the second long-range Shahab-3 missile launch in as many days. Nine missiles were launched yesterday as part of the exercise, attracting international criticism. It is unclear how many further tests have occurred today, but they are reported to have included at least one more long-range Shahab-3, and an anti-submarine Hoot torpedo. Some of the missiles are believed to have been launched from ships, as part of a series of naval manoeuvres.

The Iranians have been under international pressure to withdraw from their plans of achieving nuclear proficiency, but have rejected putting a hold on their programme and have also been moving forward with their rocketry programme.

The 'war games' have been seen by many other countries as a show of force against the possibility of an Israeli or American attack on facilities related to Iran's nuclear energy programme, seen as a risk for the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction within the unstable Middle East. Some of the naval manoeuvres have also been seen as a response to a statement by the US government that any attempt to close the Strait of Hormuz would be considered an act of war.

Meanwhile, China and Japan have joined the list of countries criticising the military exercises. China's foreign ministry issued a statement expressing "concern about these developments", whilst Japan's cabinet secretary claimed that the exercise "puts regional peace and stability at a disadvantage".

According to Alex Siu, of Taifook Securities in Hong Kong, crude oil and gold prices rose in response to the tests. "Iran's missile test has raised worries on the safety of Israel," he said to the Xinhua News Agency.


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UK car crash in Leicestershire kills six

July 10, 2008 A car crash in the British region of Leicestershire has resulted in the deaths of six people: three men and three women. The incident, involving a lorry and a Ford Mondeo, occurred at around 01:00 UTC today (02:00 local time) on the A607 road.

Simon Adkin of the local police said that, "the black Mondeo was travelling towards Leicester and the lorry was travelling in the opposite direction." He announced that the police "are appealing to anyone who witnessed the incident and saw either of these vehicles beforehand to get in touch."

The driver of the Ford, who was killed in the incident, was a 23-year-old male. An 18-year-old man, 19-year-old woman and 18-year-old woman were also killed in the incident. The ages of the other two people are not yet known.

As a result of the crash, the A607 is expected to remain closed for most of today.


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