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How did this pass review
There is some serious POV going on here.Soapy (talk) 16:14, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


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Another one bites the dust Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

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Talk:Israel rejects U.S. call for freeze on West Bank settlements

Aid money sourced
Did some googling and found government's budget for '08 and a Haaretz article about the money that U.S gives to Israel each year. We ready to review?Soapy (talk) 16:11, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Stale?
Seriously? I mean that's absolutely ridiculous, the story is in no way stale and I especially resent it considering how much effort I've put into this. It can easily be published in its current formSoapy (talk) 01:23, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The amount of effort does not affect staleness. Two different dimensions. --SVTCobra 02:30, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


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Aircraft wreckage in Atlantic confirmed to be that of missing Air France flight

June 2, 2009 Wreckage from an airplane in the Atlantic Ocean 650 kilometres from the coast of Brazil has been confirmed by the Brazilian government to be from Air France Flight 447. , the Brazilian Defence Minister, said that there were no survivors.

An airplane seat and life vest were found floating in Atlantic waters on Tuesday. A French ship arrived at the area on the same day, and confirmed the debris. According to CNN, a vessel from the Brazilian navy is to arrive at the scene on Wednesday.

The main goal for search crews will be to find the cockpit voice and data recorder to help find out what caused the crash. However, the Brazilian defence minister said that it may be hard to find them due to the large depth of the ocean in the area, saying that "it could be at a depth of 2,000 or 3,000 metres [6,500 to 9,800 feet] in that area of the ocean."

Air France Flight 447 was an Airbus A330 en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, France, with 228 people on board, when it vanished from radar screens after entering an area with severe turbulence.


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Six Afghan civilians killed after explosion near US military base

June 3, 2009 An Afghan official reported that an explosion on a road near the main base for United States troops in Afghanistan has claimed the lives of six civilians, including two children. One other child was also wounded.

The explosion tore through a civilian vehicle close to the on Tuesday, sixty kilometres outside of Afghanistan's capital of Kabul.

"Two men, two women and two children are killed. The car is totally destroyed," said interior ministry spokesman Zemarai Bashary.

Although nobody immediately claimed responsibility for the attack, Bashary suggested the incident was "an act of insurgents", saying that "this is the worst of brutality of the enemy."

The stated on Tuesday that a spokesman for the Taliban had claimed responsibility for an attack at a military base next to Bagram, although it is not yet certain whether or not the statement referred to the same incident.


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North Korea reportedly names successor to leader Kim Jong-il

June 3, 2009 South Korean media is reporting that North Korea's leader, Kim Jong-il has named his successor, after ordering his people to pledge their alliance to his youngest son, Kim Jong-un, age 25.

Yonhap News Agency reports that the decision was made after North Korea's recent test of a nuclear bomb on May 25. The New York Times reports that select unnamed embassies overseas received the news to pledge their support for their decision, but that there has been no official confirmation of the decision.

The South Korean presidential office refused to confirm, or deny that any change to North Korean leadership was imminent saying, "nothing has been confirmed." If true, the news also comes just nine months after media reported that Jong-il had a "serious stroke."

Little is known about Kim Jong-un. His name had only surfaced in 2003 when mentioned in memoirs written by a former chief of the Japanese military. Prior to that time, reports said that Jong-il had only two sons, Kim Jong-chul and Kim Jong-nam.


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Over 60 illegal miners die in South African mine fire

June 3, 2009

Over 60 miners were killed in an abandoned gold mine shaft near Welkom, in the Free State province of South Africa, after a fire broke out inside the mine. 36 bodies from the Harmony Gold mining company Eland mine shaft were brought up earlier on the weekend from depths up to. On Tuesday, 25 more bodies were recovered by other illegal workers.

"We suspect there was a fire on the 18th of May. We never saw any smoke. Over the weekend [30 May] we were informed by other illegal miners that people had died," said Tom Smith, Chief Operating Officer for Harmony's South Region, "The bodies are not burnt. It seems more of a case of gas or smoke inhalation. I don't know if there are any more bodies down there, we just have to wait."

The workers may have died from poisonous gasses, smoke inhalation, suffocation, cave-ins or carbon monoxide poisoning.

Harmony gold mine will not send anyone in to the mine as the conditions are extremely dangerous and abandoned shafts are without safety equipment. Illegal workers may gain access bypassing security at one mine site, and exit via a series of interconnected underground tunnels many miles away.

Harmony is internationally the fifth largest gold mining company and has bought up old, abandoned mines.

Police were seeking relatives to help identify the bodies, and are instigating an investigation into the circumstances.

Almost 300 "gold pirates" were arrested over the past two weeks at the Eland mine shaft alone. Thousands of illegal workers can be underground, and remain working for weeks and months continuously. "These are ex-miners and unemployed people - we need to target the syndicates," said Smith.

There are over 4.18 million unemployed in South Africa due to the economic decline, and another 1 million may soon join the ranks.

Susan Shabangu, the minister of mining, extended her condolences.

Welkom, with a population of over 400,000 is located northeast of Bloemfontein, the provincial capital.


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Bomb threat delayed an Air France flight to Paris days before Flight 447 crashed

June 3, 2009

Wikinews has learned that Argentine media reported on May 27 that an flight traveling from Ezeiza Airport in, Argentina to Paris, France, was delayed after the airline reportedly received a bomb threat, just days before  crashed into the.

According to momento24, on May 27, authorities boarded Air France Flight 415, a en route to Paris and searched the plane for a bomb, but found nothing. They were acting on a threat that had been phoned in. The search lasted for nearly two hours and none of the passengers were evacuated from the aircraft. Air France issued a statement saying the threat was later proven to be "false" and that the plane had only taken 32 minutes to search, and was then allowed to proceed to its destination.

"We have no signs so far," that the cause of the crash is related to terrorism, said Herve Morin, France's minister of defense in an address on Europe 1 Radio. He also added that "we can’t rule out a terrorist act since terrorism is the main threat to Western democracies." Argentinian police say that there is no known link between the two events.

Air France Flight 447 was an en route from  to Paris on June 1, with 228 people on board, when it vanished from radar screens after entering an area with severe turbulence. The exact cause is still under investigation.

On June 2, wreckage from the plane was spotted in the Atlantic Ocean 650 kilometres from the coast of Brazil. An airplane seat and life vest were found floating in Atlantic waters on Tuesday. A French ship arrived at the area on the same day, and confirmed the debris.

All on board the aircraft are feared to have been killed in the crash. The main goal for search crews will be to find the cockpit voice and data recorder to help find out what caused the crash. French authorities have sent a vessel carrying two mini-submarines to attempt recovery of the flight data recorders, which can broadcast locator signals for up to 30 days. However, the Brazilian defence minister said on Tuesday that it may be hard to find them due to the depth of the ocean in the area, saying that "it could be at a depth of 2,000 or 3,000 metres [6,500 to 9,800 feet] in that area of the ocean."


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Sky News
I took a screen shot of the result I got for Sky News. I get an internal server error when I try to click the link. I also get one for the momento24 link, unless I use the cache version. The Sky News result is mentioned in the sources, but that will not be in that position for much longer, so here is the screenshot I took: http://img199.imageshack.us/i/skynewsmay27airfrancebo.gif/ DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 03:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Huh?
What's with the "Wikinews has learned" intro? How is this article different from other synthesis articles? --SVTCobra 11:09, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

 * I think it means that we've only just become aware of what the Argentine press reported at the time. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 11:20, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

 * So it is a way to get around stale? --SVTCobra 13:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

 * Not really. The incident is being reported in light of the recent crash, so arguably the stale factor only comes in from the day of the then-disappearence. It just gets by on the 2-3 days rule. Also, see Killing Vector's comment above. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:27, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, May 27 is six days ago. --SVTCobra 13:39, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

 * But the crash was only three. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 13:42, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

This has become 'potentially significant' since the crash was effectively confirmed; at the time the Argentinian sources were published it was a bit parochial and we don't have people from that part of the world to dig it up. In this case it does get round stale but only because of the crash.

As long as we continue to go with crash investigator likely theories and weave them into stories like this then they do no more than introduce uncertainty to the cause and more details to look at. Given the prevailing weather at the location the likely issue was a lightning strike damaging electrical systems. It could have been weather systems which prevented the plane avoiding some of the dangerous air currents in the area. A plane hitting a 50m wide strong up/down-draught could be tipped or even have a wing ripped off. Some of those currents are around 200mph. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:12, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess the whole idea I tried to establish was that no one really knows what happened to this plane. It may end up being that we may never really know. I did do quite a bit of research on this, and I found it odd that all that remains of any report of this incident, happens to be 1 cached report, and a few deleted ones. I tried to search Sky News for the report with no success, though I am limited in the access they allow me to the site, being in the US. I think that in itself is news, which is why I took the screen shot. If we want to try to debunk stale, a quick search in Google earlier this AM had Wikinews, along with Gawker, FOX News and a few others as reporting this only today, granted its all based off the momento24 report, and no one mentions that a major media network picked it up and then deleted it. I just had a thought, I will e-mail Sky news and see what they have to say about this. It's also worth noting the chain of coincidences this incident creates. Though the accept theory is a lightning strike, I have seen at least one video of a plane being struck and having little to no damage. I am not trying to draw any conclusions as to either possible causes, merely to point out that one cannot necessarily be ruled out over the other at this time. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 15:44, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

 * This is veering fast into commentary page territory, but I can somehow still remember writing this way back as a newcomer in 2007, so lightning does occasional mess electrics around, although normally the Faraday cage thingy keeps things from harm. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:50, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Pilot: 447 was blown out of the sky by terrorists
According to the Daily Mail: ''Investigators are examining a bomb threat called in on a flight from Buenos Aires to Paris just days before Flight 447 disappeared over the Atlantic ocean, it has been revealed. Aviation authorities are examining the possibility of a link between the threat to the Buenos Aires flight and the mysterious disappearance of Flight 447 with 228 people on board, a source has claimed. Meanwhile an Air France pilot said it was 'highly likely' the jet was blown out of the sky by a bomb.'' Worth noting that there is an investigation? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 15:50, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

 * With a better source than the Daily Mail, yes. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:52, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Not worthy of note. The investigation into the AF crash will be consider a huge range of possibilities of which a bomb, and the relevance of a recent bomb threat, will of course be considered. As BRS alludes to, the Daily Mail isn't a particularly respected newspaper. Adambro (talk) 15:57, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well I see DF has gone ahead and added it anyway but I would note that the sentence added isn't completely backed up by the source. Specifically, the DM article doesn't specify which authorities are supposed to be investigating. Adambro (talk) 16:05, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Policy discussion
Is wikinews doomed to reporting on every speculation and theory which some local newspaper somewhere reports on, and which then gets picked up by the tabloids? Just like the text-message thing we had earlier, no real newspaper would waste a column inch on this kind of stuff: "Authorities say the incident was unrelated". How many threats like these are made each year? Yet we are 'forced' to report each and every story like this because the wikinews policy allows no editorial or other consideration: no caution clause, no wait and see approach, no analysis - just plain synthesis of whatever happens to be flying around the net. And synthesis of what? Single source reports 'an event' or 'fact' and speculates on it - other 'media sources' then pick it up and parrot it around - then someone submits an article on it here with all those as sources - and bang! we have another one of these articles which really doesn't raise the level wikinews as a credible and worthwhile news source - but rather goes down the sink of the various blog websites around - and we cannot get rid of it untill multible credible news sources debunk it for us first (which almost never happens, cause they have better things to do). I'm just saying this thing will get worse and out of hand eventually with the way 'news' is generated and replicated on the net these days - and eventually wikinews has to put a line somewhere when it comes to stories like these. Discuss. --Ransu (talk) 18:28, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually this was not a single report. This was several, on May 27, as shown in the screenshot I took at the beginning of the page. This threat was made, but turned out to be nothing. Not to mention it was since picked up by the AP, FOX, CNN et al. Also the article never says there was a bomb or an attack, it doesn't speculate as to what it was. It merely points out the fact that a threat was phoned in, on the same airline, going to the same city, just 4 days before the Air France flight from Rio crashed. I think that those factors, including the discrepancy in the time it took to search the aircraft, are news in itself. I can go on with what things might be, or I can write the facts, which is exactly what I did. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 19:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Picked up! Which is exactly what I described. News flooding channels, picking up human interest stories of dubious value to fill their infinite 24hours news cycles - while we here have 1 front page with 4 top stories that often stay up there for days. So my question remains: how do we raise raise the bar above having to parrot every dailymail/newsoftheworld type story when we have no effective editorial policy? This air crash and everything related to it is notable news, I give you that. But is there a line to the speculation and incremental 'updates' we submit on the front page on it - and for how long? Investigations on accidents like these take years to draw conclusions. Other things are happening around the world meanwhile: Obama's 'historic' speech, Tiananmen anniversary... etc. I must admit I'm relatively new to wikinews world - how is the order of stories on the front page created? --Ransu (talk) 20:34, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Anyone with an account can change the leads at anytime, to replace them with something more up to date. As to what is or is not published, that is up to you, me and anyone else. Want to see a story? Write one. Whether you have personal issues with a subject or its material is something that you might want to consider.m If a story follows policy, is adequately sourced and properly formatted for style, then there is no reason it should not be published. There is no limit as to what we can or cannot report on. We don't have topic banning. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

 * I have a comment to make. #1 this is not the place for a policy discussion.  #2 our articles are written by contributors (in case you missed that little bit about "From Wikinews, the free news source you can write!".  #3 as we're all digital, we can waste all the space we want on what ever we want.  #4 as we're not a paid group and we make zero from advertising, we can write what ever we want.  #5 wikinews does collect info from other sources and does repeat news, but we make a point to do it differently - IE NPOV for a start.
 * So... With those points in mind. If you want to see specific quality or type of articles being written - instead of complaining - go write them.   I've been around here a while and frankly I have no interest in the australian football/soccer/whatever article, nor do I give a damn about whats happening on EuroVision - but you know what?  Someone cares enough to write it - so thats fine with me.  In the mean time I write about Maker Faire & Fanime - which I can assure you more than a few people around here are looking at saying "why the fuck does anyone care about 'FanimeCon'?" but they let it go because I'm interested in it and I'm writing it.  No skin off my nose, no skin off their nose.
 * Oh, and so far that I can tell, we've got no credibility problems what so ever, except for the misc person that wanders in here complaining that we're writing something they don't like because they are all talk and no action. Welcome to the wiki way. You want it, you gotta do it. -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 22:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


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I like this law.--66.229.17.49 (talk) 09:12, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I do not. We do not need any more impetus for people to try and sue one another for quick monetary gains.  Love of money is the root of all evil, after all.

 * I like it. It is hardly a minor affair when your talking death or disability. Remember that most of the money from expensive cases tends to pay for healthcare related to the injury and effectively isn't truely the claimant's. (They can squander it if they really want to, but that would be stupid as medical bills don't pay themselves. Remember it is not their fault they have to pay them.) Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:16, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


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UK's Labour government faces cabinet resignations, electoral defeat

June 5, 2009

The Labour government of United Kingdom Prime Minister Gordon Brown received multiple blows this week after a spate of resignations from the cabinet and losses in local and council elections.

As of this morning, six ministers — Home Secretary Jacqui Smith, Communities and Local Government Minister Hazel Blears, Work and Pensions Minister James Purnell, Transport Minister Geoff Hoon, Employment Minister Tony McNulty and Defence Minister John Hutton — had all handed in notices of resignation from the cabinet as fallout from the Members' expenses scandal spread.

Mr Purnell's resignation included an admonition for Gordon Brown to step down as Prime Minister and allow the Labour Party to choose a new leader. In his letter of resignation, Purnell told the Prime Minister "I owe it to our party to say what I believe no matter how hard that may be. I now believe your continued leadership makes a Conservative victory more, not less likely."

However, when John Hutton, a known critic of Brown who once predicted that Brown would be a 'Fucking disaster', resigned he gave his full backing to the Prime Minister. "I firmly believe that Gordon Brown is the right man to lead our party and our country".

Incoming results from Thursday's local elections also show heavy losses for Labour, with the party in control of none of the councils which have yet declared results. The last Labour-run County councils — Lancashire, Staffordshire, Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire — were all lost. In Staffordshire there was a wipeout of Labour, going from 32 council seats to just three. Another telling figure was the result from St Ives in Cambridgeshire: Labour's candidates placed last, behind the Official Monster Raving Loony Party's "Lord Toby Jug".

While the results from the 2009 European Elections, which the United Kingdom also voted in on Thursday, will not be counted until Sunday, polling before the election indicated Labour's share of the vote could be only the fourth largest, after the Conservatives, Liberal Democrats and UKIP.

Labour's troubles have prompted the Prime Minister to re-shuffle his cabinet, with Health Minister Alan Johnson becoming the new Home Secretary. His role of Health Secretary was taken by Andy Burnham. Tony Blair's former spin doctor Peter Mandelson taking an expanded portfolio along with Gordon Brown's own former title of First Minister.

Staying in their positions are Jim Murphy, the Scottish Secretary, Jack Straw, the Justice Secretary and Ed Balls, the Children, Schools and Families Secretary. Peter Hain, who resigned from the government last year returns as Welsh Secretary. Ben Bradshaw becomes the new Culture Secretary. Lord Adonis has become the new Transport Secretary, meaning that there are now two Lords in charge in major spending Government departments, and three Peers in the Cabinet. This has caused some controversy for Brown.

Drawing from the business world, Sir Alan Sugar, the hard-nosed tycoon who hosts the UK's version of The Apprentice, has been appointed as 'enterprise Tsar'.

There are now just three full members of the Cabinet who are women: Yvette Cooper, Baroness Royall and Harriet Harman.

Despite the setbacks, Brown said at a press conference this evening that he would "fight on" and rejected calls to step aside, saying "I have faith in doing my duty... I believe in never walking away in difficult times."

However, even after such a dramatic day the bad news kept on coming for Brown. Caroline Flint, hitherto the Europe Minister resigned from government, attacking Brown's use of female politicians as "female window dressing". She accused Brown of running a "two-tier" government with an "inner" cabinet circle. Later Geraldine Smith, the Labour MP for Morecambe and Lunesdale criticized Flint saying "She should have counted to ten before she wrote that letter".


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I have the feeling that the terrorist option is being suppressed by the media.

___84.228.111.232 (talk) 10:26, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow
They better find that voice recorder

No terrorism stuff!
No terrorism!!! no bomb, just bad luck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm-bdtaEaFs&feature=fvhl

I wrote a new article! I hope it pass the revision!

--Hedleypanama (talk) 11:44, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Going to need more than a link to a YouTube video and a single AP report. And unless the AP has examined a piece or wreckage or found the black boxes, then they are in no position to dismiss anything. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Lockerbie could have been like this
What came to mind immediately I heard this was that the original bomb plot to down the Pan Am flight was timed that the bomb would explode mid-Atlantic so no evidence would ever be found.


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US investigators probe close call on North Carolina runway

June 3, 2009

Investigators with the United States National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) are looking into a serious runway incursion at Charlotte Douglas International Airport in North Carolina. A regional jet came within ten feet of striking a private turboprop. The incident occured on May 29. A Bombardier CRJ-200 owned by US Airways subsidiary PSA Airlines was cleared to take off. As the jet moved off down the runway a Pilatus PC-12 was cleared to move onto the same runway and await permission to begin its own takeoff.

As the jet headed towards the other aircraft a monitoring system called ASDE-X alerted air traffic control that the aircraft was on a collision course. The controllers immediately informed the PSA jet. As the aircraft approached the PC-12 the turboprop's pilot also realised the danger and moved his aircraft to one side of the runway.

The jet was able to come to a stop just ten feet from the other plane. The CRJ-200 had 42 passengers and three crew on board, and it is unclear how many people were on the PC-12.


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Sunderland A.F.C. announce Steve Bruce as their new manager

June 3, 2009

Sunderland A.F.C have announced Steve Bruce as their new manager, signing a three-year contract, taking over from Ricky Sbragia who left the club at the end of last season.

Steve Bruce has previously managed clubs such as Sheffield United F.C., Birmingham City F.C., Crystal Palace F.C., Huddersfield Town F.C. and twice at Wigan Athletic F.C..

Sunderland's chairman, Niall Quinn was delighted at the appointment and said, "Steve knows more than anyone what football means to people of this region, and I'm confident that he will be able to instill into our players exactly what it means to play for this football club."

Dave Whelan, chairman of Wigan, said everyone at the club would be "devastated" at the loss, however went on to thank Bruce for his work at the club by saying, "What Steve has achieved here over the past 18 months has been magnificent. After a period of instability he put the team in order and started laying the foundations for a prosperous future."


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Welcome to Wikinews. I reverted your edit here. I felt that the firm name added little to the story. Calebrw (talk) 16:34, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

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Strategic arms talks between Russia and the US end without declaration

June 5, 2009

The Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START I) between the Soviet Union and the United States was signed on July 31, 1991 and is due to expire at the end of this year. It aims at drastically reducing the amount of nuclear weapons left after the cold war. The two nuclear powers began their second round of technical discussions in Geneva, Switzerland, on Monday. After three days, the talks ended without any declarations.

Between May 19 and 21, the first discussions were held in Moscow and, according to the Russian ITAR-TASS news agency, citing Russian officials, were "constructive and successful." The talks focused mainly on the U.S's proposed missile defense system which would place a large amount of nuclear weapons is Eastern Europe. For now, the U.S. has delayed the project.

U.S. President Barack Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev will meet in July to further discuss the matter and, according to a White House Official, try to sign a new treaty by December 5, 2009.

However, Russia Now says, quoting Vremya Novostei, that "Moscow will try to link the Start treaty with the issue of the American missile defense system deployment in Europe." If the Obama administration does not reconsider the deployment, "it will effectively become impossible to conclude a new Start treaty." Top Russian general Nikolai Makarov said that there would be no reduction in nuclear missiles until the proposed nuclear defense shield in Eastern Europe is clarified. The U.S claims that the proposed shield is meant to protect Europe from a nuclear attack by Iran. "As long as the situation in the world, including the U.S. missile shield plan, remains unclear, we will not alter our nuclear arsenal," Makarov said.


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the air traffic cotrol technicans need to develop better equipment to stop these close calls.


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Organization of American States votes to lift Cuba suspension

June 3, 2009 News outlets are reporting that the Organization of American States (OAS) has voted to rescind the 1962 suspension of Cuba. The Washington D.C. based organization had suspended the island nation in 1962, three years after Fidel Castro led the successful overthrow of the U.S. backed Batista government. At the time, the organization cited the incompatibility of Cuba's Marxist-Leninist doctrine with its own charter.

Since Cuba's suspension the U.S. government has stated that any lifting of the ban would depend upon both developments of personal freedoms and democratic reforms on the island. U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had stated at the OAS meeting that "membership in the OAS must come with responsibilities;" however, the U.S. delegation left before the final vote citing the inability of the organization to reach an agreement on the issue of Cuba.

Many Latin American governments, most of whom have long since called for the lifting of the Cuban suspension without precondition, have applauded the vote. Honduran President Zelaya declared that "the cold war has ended," while the Ecuadorian Foreign Minister, Fander Falconí, stated that "this is a moment of rejoicing for all of Latin America." Falconí was careful to clarify that although the vote itself was voted upon "without conditions," it was not an open invitation to the Cuban government to take a seat at the organization. The vote removes the ban upon Cuba's membership, but OAS member states must still satisfy OAS requirements and conventions on human rights.

U.S. State Department spokesman Robert Wood said that the United States had worked to ensure "the return of Cuba to participation in the OAS will be done consistent with the principles and purposes of the democracy and human rights."


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Comments:Sunderland A.F.C. announce Steve Bruce as their new manager

Good appointment!
This can only be good news for Sunderland, however it will be very interesting to see who Wigan can get to replace Bruce. He's done wonders and kept them mid-table the whole season. --Meekel (TalkToMe) 21:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


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Embargo
It's about time we lift the embargo with Cuba, too. If we have a relationship with China we can have one with Cuba. Don't let special interests (anti-Castro refugees) influence law. --Phil1988 (talk) 22:40, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

 * I agree. Plus, on a similar note, look at Saudi Arabia. Over there, the king is at least as tyrannical as the Castro brothers, but we trade and have normal diplomatic relations with Saudi Arabia. So what arguments can be made against trade or diplomatic relations with Cuba?
 * 71.96.128.236 (talk) 23:17, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree it should be lifted. I am sick and tired of people bringing in the Saudi Arabia angle like oh its so bad screw you and mind your own business what the KSA wants to do it can do it is a great nation and its reformist king (abduhllah) is a great man


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Talk:Maker Faire 2009 wraps up in San Mateo, California

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Cary and I were there. We took pictures, did our thing. So on and so forth. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 00:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I care, I swear. Just don't have much in the way of hard notes.  I mean, I was there Friday setting up, through Sunday breakdown - as I was partially in charge of the WMF booth.  There are also 200 some pictures in Commons:Category:Maker Faire 2009 that I took.  -- Shakata Ga Nai  ^_^ 02:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


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WHOI sub Nereus explores deepest area of Pacific Ocean

June 4, 2009

A Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) remotely operated vehicle touched down 10,902 meters (35,767 feet) in the Mariana Trench near the island of Guam.

On Sunday, May 31, Nereus dove into the Pacific Ocean and began its descent into Challenger Deep the deepest area of the Mariana Trench.

"It's the deepest known part of the ocean. The trench is virtually unexplored, and I am absolutely certain Nereus will enable new discoveries," said Andy Bowen, project manager of WHOI, "Reaching such extreme depths is the pinnacle of technical challenges. The team is pleased that Nereus has been successful in reaching the very bottom of the ocean to return imagery and samples from such a hostile world. With a robot like Nereus we can now explore anywhere in the ocean. The trenches are virtually unexplored, and Nereus will enable new discoveries there. Nereus marks the start of a new era in ocean exploration."

However, this is not the first time that a mission was sent into the trench. In 1998, the Japanese robot Kaiko was launched. In 1960 a two man bathyscaphe vehicle, the Trieste descended 10,916 meters (35,813 feet) to the ocean floor.

Nereus can be operated remotely or it can run as an autonomous underwater vehicle AUV. It is currently attached to the mother ship via an optic tether the diameter of a human hair.

"Much of the ocean's depths remain unexplored. Ocean scientists now have a unique tool to gather images, data and samples from everywhere in the oceans, rather than those parts shallower than 6,500 meters (4 miles). With its innovative technology, Nereus allows us to study and understand previously inaccessible ocean regions," said Julie Morris, director of the National Science Foundation (NSF)'s Division of Ocean Sciences. NSF assisted with the US$8 million project funding.

Nereus will send videos and collect samples on the ocean floor at the trench's subduction zone and area during its mission.

"The samples collected by the vehicle include sediment from the tectonic plates that meet at the trench and, for the first time, rocks from deep exposures of the Earth's crust close to mantle depths south of the Challenger Deep. We will know the full story once shore-based analyses are completed back in the laboratory this summer. We can integrate them with the new mapping data to tell a story of plate collision in greater detail than ever before accomplished in the world's oceans," said geologist Patty Fryer of the University of Hawaii.


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Twentieth anniversary of the Tiananmen Square protests passes in China

June 4, 2009

Today marks the twentieth anniversary of the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 in China. The protests were sparked by the death of Hu Yaobang, a former General Secretary of the Communist Party of China who was forced to resign over his support for political and economic reform.

The protests began on April 14, 1989 and lasted until early June, nearly five weeks. Largely a student protest, people flocked to the square in the thousands. On June 3 and 4, 1989, the Chinese military finally regained control of the square. China says 241 people were killed. Other reports suggest the death toll could be as high as 5,000.

Ahead of today's anniversary, authorities placed known dissidents under house arrest and some were even forced to leave Beijing. Even family members of the victims of the massacre were placed under house arrest.

"We've been under 24-hour surveillance for a week and aren't able to leave home to mourn. It's totally inhuman," said Xu Jue to Associated Press. Xu's son was shot and killed by soldiers on June 4, 1989 at age 22.

A protest leader, who has lived in Taiwan since 1989, was detained when he tried to enter China through Macau.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton urged China to "examine openly the darker events of its past and provide a public accounting of those killed, detained or missing, both to learn and to heal."

"This painful chapter in history must be faced. Pretending it never happened is not an option," the President of Taiwan Ma Ying-jeou said in a statement. Chinese authorities, nevertheless, made sure the day passed uneventfully in Tiananmen Square. Visitors were asked to present their passports and foreign journalists were barred from visiting the Square. Both uniformed and plain-clothed police officers stood guard.

The Los Angeles Times reported bus loads of men arriving at the Square with umbrellas. The paper called the scene a "vast ocean of umbrellas" and speculated that they were not ordinary tourists but sent there by the government to prevent people from taking photographs. A BBC report confirmed this, indicating that the umbrella-wielding crowd were all wearing radio earpieces as they smiled and persistently blocked all filming attempts around the square.

The government also blocked access to social networking websites and file-sharing sites. Foreign television news channels were blacked out whenever they carried a segment about the anniversary.

"Today is like any other day, stable," Qin Gang, spokesperson for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said at a press briefing. He refused to acknowledge that there were special security measures in place.

"We urge the U.S. to put aside its political prejudice and correct its wrongdoing and refrain from disrupting or undermining bilateral relations," Qin said, and called Clinton's comments a "gross interference in China's internal affairs." Meanwhile, in Hong Kong a large crowd attended a candlelight vigil in Victoria Park. Organizers estimated the crowd at 150,000 people, while police put the number at 62,800. Many carried banners in Chinese demanding justice for the students and other Beijing residents who died during the Tiananmen Square crackdown.

"I am very happy that people have not forgotten the massacre in Tiananmen on June 4," vigil attendee Yvonne Chow said. "I am very sad because it destroyed our hopes for democracy."

The New York Times spoke to former Chinese soldier Chen Guang who was part of the retaking of the Square. Guang is now an artist in the outskirts of Beijing.

"We were assured there would be no legal consequences if we opened fire. My only hope was that the students would not put up a fight," Guang said. "I can assure you I didn’t shoot anyone." "For 20 years I tried to bury this episode, but the older you get the more these things float to the surface," he said of his art which is based on photographs he took in 1989. "I think it’s time for my experiences, my truth, to be shared with the rest of the world."

During the protests, an incident occurred that gained international attention and quickly became an icon for the freedom movement in 1989. A lone man dubbed 'Tank Man', a yet to be identified Chinese man, gained world fame when he was photographed standing in the path of a convoy of military tanks on June 5, 1989, holding what appeared to be groceries, in an attempt to block their entrance into the square. Footage of the incident showed confusion, as the soldiers were unsure on how to proceed. After several attempts to go around the man, several men came out of the crowd and grabbed 'Tank Man' and carried him back into the crowd. To this day no one knows who he was or what happened to him.

Twitter, a microblogging website, and other social networking sites this morning began spreading the word of the anniversary. As a result, China blocked access to the website along with nearly a dozen other major Western social networking and photo-sharing websites. Among them included Flickr, Livejournal and the Huffington Post. Law forbids that anyone talk about or discuss the events of 1989.


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This article, as it is, is anticipating that more news will emerge as the anniversary day passes. The title is deliberately benign as I know not what will transpire in China. Please help write this. --SVTCobra 01:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I added some, but it deserves a lot more. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 03:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

 * I've seen this get a lot on the BBC and Al-Jazeera. One of the key points is that any foreign journalists trying to get near the square are rebuffed. Not only are there military and police, but they have plain clothes security people with umbrellas in the bright sunshine. They're using the brollies to prevent all filming of security measures in place. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:53, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that stuff is in the article now, well except the umbrellas. Back up for review. --SVTCobra 22:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Have a look for it on TV, it's so surreal it reminds me of The Prisoner with Patrick McGoohan. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:19, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Found it in the LA Times source, will add. --SVTCobra 23:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I removed your addition, Brian as it failed to take into account this paragraph which is directly below what you had added. Cheers, --SVTCobra 00:42, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Could you add the BBC report that you are citing to sources? --SVTCobra 10:31, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That was from broadcast reports. A reporter who attempted to get to the square was blocked by the guys with the umbrellas and noticed they all had earpieces. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:17, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I found it ... no worries. --SVTCobra 16:49, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


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Governor of New Hampshire signs law legalizing same-sex marriages

June 4, 2009

After both the New Hampshire House of Representatives and Senate of New Hampshire voted to legalize same-sex marriages, the state's Governor, John Lynch signed the legislation into law on June 3.

This makes New Hampshire the sixth state in the United States to legalize same-sex marriages. The other five states are Connecticut, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts and Vermont. "[I heard] compelling arguments that a separate system is not an equal system. Today, we are standing up for the liberties of same-sex couples by making clear that they will receive the same rights, responsibilities — and respect — under New Hampshire law," said Lynch after signing the bill.

The bill passed in the Senate with 14 in favor and 10 against. The state's House voted hours later in favor of the bill, 198 in favor and 176 against. An earlier version of the bill failed to pass the House because it did not clarify enough rights to religious institutions. Organizations will not be required to perform same-sex marriages. The bill also does not require members of the clergy to perform the marriages.

"Each religious organization, association, or society has exclusive control over its own religious doctrine, policy, teachings and beliefs regarding who may marry within their faith," says the bill.

The law will take effect beginning on January 1, 2010. The law also states that any couples in a same-sex civil union may convert their union to a marriage beginning on that date and will automatically be considered married as of 2011.


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Talk:WHOI sub Nereus explores deepest area of Pacific Ocean

Measurements?
"the Trieste descended 10.916 meters (35.8 ft) to the ocean floor." I think the author means 10,916 meters, which is *not* 35.8 ft. - penguian, 124.168.194.106 (talk) 01:56, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Good eye. I fixed the numbers. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 02:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

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editprotected Please change the category from CAT:Oceans to the more specific CAT:Pacific Ocean. Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 00:54, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ But added not replaced --SVTCobra 10:57, 25 April 2018 (UTC)


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Comments:Israel rejects U.S. call for freeze on West Bank settlements

The god of militarist and expansionist Israel must be proud. After the Palestinians, who will be the next people to be wiped out in order to make room for the ever fatter (self-appointed) chosen race? -Alemaco (talk) 03:51, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I rather root for the "militarist and expansionist" them then the people that follow the God of the pedophiles and slavers.--KDP3 (talk) 09:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * So, you must be talking about Jeovah. Apart from your uninformed opinion, you seem to forget that we're not talking about a football match. It's more like a genocide. -Alemaco (talk) 12:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Israel is a modern nation that has laws that give equal rights too all its citizens and speaking of Genocide read up on Hamas charter its wants genocides on the Jewish race, unlike Israel which has equal rights for Israeli arabs, something no arab nation can say even for their women.PS 1000 thousand dead is not a genocide and don't play the victim game Hamas started the last war and used human shields in schools and mosques. --KDP3 (talk) 22:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If only that were the practice. Israeli Arabs are not treated as citizens by the Israeli government. 74.227.158.251 (talk) 00:56, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Then why they have political parties, a supreme court judge is an Arab. All the street signs in Israel have arabic. And they have a right to vote something a lot of arabs nations don't have even for their majorities.--66.229.17.49 (talk) 13:44, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

yeah except for all the refugees in the occupied terriotories "let's build settelments in land we've stolen and force the palestinians out of there homes, it's not racist or persecution, they're not the chosen people they dont matter."

The God of Abraham be with Israel
May YAHWEH continue to bless and protect Zion

God Bless Israel, God Bless Prime Minister Netenyahu, You are to be commended for your defence of Israel's rights to exist and to grow. I'm one American of Jewish decent who stands with you. God Blss you all!! Ronald Neal
 * I suppose the Germans were equally supportive of the Third Reich back in the 30s. -Alemaco (talk) 00:36, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Do I need to phone the WMF's legal counsel to get you spanked for that comment? Yes, they employ Mike Godwin. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:47, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well Brian the only Nazis here is Hamas since they based them selfs on them.--66.229.17.49 (talk) 00:51, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

anyone who supports stealing others land is a fucking pig.

This is a disgrace on our religion. I hope Iran will nuke this little fucking piece of desert and literally wipe it off the map

Israel Unlawful Settlements
President Obama has lost his worldwide credibility at the cost of supporting Israel's atrocities and its contemptuous rejection of his call to halt the illegal construction of settlements. Israel will soon draw the US into an international conflict if President Obama fails to restrict her. Israel will be Obama's achilles heel! Keith Reyes, PhD.

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Awesome.--KDP3 (talk) 22:10, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Good. Now maybe the other 44 states will follow suit. 70.153.121.165 (talk) 01:00, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "Oh no," they said. "There is no slippery slope. That's nonsense! If we legalize it in Massachusetts, there's no reason to fear your state will do so." Yeah right. It's spreading like a virus, and don't you damn well tell me that others doing it doesn't impact these newer states. They also claimed marriage wouldn't be destroyed by this. Yeah. They actually said that. 206.74.5.136 (talk) 03:27, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I do believe in human rights but in such extremisty. Beside the human there are God's laws and Nature's, and both I am sure, have been violated in favor of Man's satisfaction, which is disasterous. I challenge those legalizing this practice that such couples relation woud come out with no real product but self-satisfaction which is not necessarily legitmate or right-bound. legalizers may be tempted some day to pass self- or other-killing because this is what the majority wants (if they are killers).

Good!

Empires fell at the peak of homosexual activity. what make you thank this nation is not headed for the same fate? When the people speak out in mass protest against such evil and a few then are able to over throw the will of many,some thing evil is lurking. Nature it self teaches it wrong and yet we blindly accept it as if it going to be OK. Ask your self truly what victory is being won here. To openly practice unnatural sex's. Then to go as far as to all it a marriage. God for bid oh by whay he did. Let read are in some cases for the first time read what the creatore has to say and take it that he means it. Romans 1:18-32 == 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them. ==

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Hi. I reverted your edit to WHOI sub Nereus explores deepest area of Pacific Ocean since having commas to separate numbers is useful imho. See Style guide. thanks for your understanding. Bawolff ☺☻ 06:15, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

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Wrote a story on H1N1 story as told in Australian media.

It was deleted without adequate review or feedback... the story continues to dominate the headlines here in Victoria - and I see zero coverage of it in wikinews.

I'd like a copy of the deleted article added back here so I can draft a new version with recent developments.

... - May 30, 2009

The World Health Organisation update on the H1N1 pandemic as of 06:00 GMT, 29 May 2009 stated 53 countries have officially reported 15,510 cases of influenza A(H1N1) infection. In the lead story of Thursday's ABCTV 7:30 Report, Kerry O'Brien reported over 10,000 worldwide confirmed cases of H1N1, including 100 fatalities. He stated confirmed cases in Australia had passed 100. Although symptoms have been mild and no deaths have been reported, over 3000 people in Victoria, the worst affected state are in home bound quarantine. Further reports state the number of confirmed cases jumped to over 200 representing a 50% increase in less than 24 hours, prompting concern the infection is now spreading exponentially throughout the community.

Some suggest it is time the Victorian public health authorities shifted its strategic response to the outbreak from 'contain' to 'sustain' and start treating it like any other seasonal flu outbreak and let it run its natural course. Other countries have taken this approach and there is a suggestion that the higher alert level is putting unnecessary strain on the health system.

Professor Raina MacIntyre, runs the NCIRS Strategic Priority Infectious Diseases Epidemiology Research unit and is a member of Australia's Pandemic Influenza Advisory Group. She was reported in The Weekend Australian as saying "We're at the stage now in Victoria where a blanket closure of all schools and pre-schools should be on the agenda and a decision needs to be made quickly,". She went on to add that delaying the peak of the virus, and trying to minimise the size of that peak is an important focus while a vaccine is prepared, which is still some months from being available. Closing schools is thought to be an effective strategy for slowing the rate of infection as flu spreads rapidly among children because of their under developed immune system.

In a press conference the Federal Health Minister, Nicola Roxon confirmed some Victorian communities have moved to the next phase in the pandemic plan. "Where we have a large number of cases, we are doing a lot of the things that are in the contain - and some that are even in the sustain - phase because we need to be taking appropriate action for each community," explained Ms Roxon. "But we have our Chief Medical Officer assessing, hour by hour, let alone day by day, whether that needs to be upgraded."

Meanwhile the CEO of the Australian Hotels Association, Bill Healy has reacted strongly to the suggestion that under the National Pandemic Action Plan, hotels can be used to isolate people who have been in contact with the disease "It was never our understanding that hotels would be expected to accommodate people who have been diagnosed with a disease."

News outlets are reporting on the human interest angle, getting first hand accounts of the spread of the infection, the personal impact of quarantine measures and dealings with the public health authorities.

Official Sources

 * World Health Organisation - http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/updates/en/index.html

Australia
 * National Action Plan for Human Influenza Pandemic - http://www.dpmc.gov.au/publications/pandemic/index.cfm
 * Federal Government Health Emergency information service - http://www.healthemergency.gov.au/

Victoria
 * Victorian Human Influenza Pandemic Plan - http://www.health.vic.gov.au/pandemicinfluenza/downloads/hs702_pandemic_plan.pdf
 * Victorian Government Health Information - http://www.health.vic.gov.au/ideas/diseases/swine-influenza

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 * Deborah Cornwall Health authorities steel themselves for swine flu escalation 7:30 Report, Australian Broadcasting Corporation, May 28, 2009 MP4
 * Karen Barlow Experts criticise swine flu containment Lateline, Australian Broadcasting Corporation, May 29, 2009 MP4

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Comments:Aircraft wreckage in Atlantic confirmed to be that of missing Air France flight

it is really sad that a plane with so many people crashes...alot of strength to people who lost families, friends or loved ones

it is really sad that a plane with so many people crashes...alot of strength to people who lost families, friends or loved ones

The Missing Box
My personal feelings on this are that; although wreakage has, is and will be found, it is unlikely that authorities will find the black box in time to see what exactly caused the plane to crash. One has to remember that the ocean in that approximate area is over 12,000 feet deep, and even if the submersibles sent to find it actually locate it, it might be too late to examine the stored information. The weight of the sea can quite litterally crush things at deep-enough areas. With that being said though, the fact that the plane was flying into a storm might partially explain what happened. I have heard that officials rule out a lightning strike, but severe winds, torrential rains and the electrical disturbances caused by the lightning all likely contributed to the plane's demise. My hopes are that the people involved in looking for remains can atleast find enough debris to partially piece together what tragically happened on the doomed flight.


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Europeans go to the polls to elect Members of the European Parliament

June 8, 2009 Over the course of the last four days, people across the European Union went to the polls to elect Members of the European Parliament (MEPs) as part of the European Parliament election, 2009. Voting began on Thursday in the United Kingdom, the Netherlands and parts of Ireland. It continued on Friday across the rest of Ireland and parts of the Czech Republic. On Saturday the countries of Cyprus, France (for part of Outre-mer), Italy (day 1), Latvia, Malta, Slovakia and the Czech Republic all voted. On Sunday, the final day of polling, the remaing countries of Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Germany, Denmark, Spain, Estonia, Finland, France, Greece, Hungary, Italy (day 2), Lithuania, Luxembourg, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovenia and Sweden voted. Votes were released last night and will continue to be released over the course of today with the exception of Netherlands, which has broken rules and partialy released them on Friday.

The European Parliament is divided into constituencies, which have a group of representatives (the MEPs). Each constituency elects them proportionaly. The amount of MEPs representing a political party depends on the percentage of votes they gain. For example, if 50% of the electorate of a constituency vote for the x party then 50% of the MEPs in that constituency will be from the x party. In total there are 736 MEPs up for election by approximately 500,000,000 Europeans across 27 member states making it the largest transnational election in history.

The elections didn't quite go to plan across the Netherlands, as the European Commission have asked that Dutch officials give an explanation to results they released. As countries across Europe vote on different days, the results of the election can only be released on the last day (Sunday), so that the results in other countries will not influence the decission made by people in countries that are still voting. Despite this, the Netherlands released some of their results on Friday: 92% of the votes have currently been counted. Further controversy arose from the results themselves. Results so far show that far-right Dutch Member of Parliament, Geert Wilders's party the Party for Freedom (PVV), appears to have come second behind the Christian Democratic Appeal. Wilders is facing prosecution in the Netherlands for an anti Islamic statement and was refused entry to the United Kingdom on grounds of the intent to incite hatred.

It had initially been foreseen that the Treaty of Lisbon would have entered into force by the time of these elections, making them the first to be held under its provisions. However, primarily because of the failure of the referendum in Ireland, the framework established by the Treaty of Nice will be used again. Amongst other differences, the number of MEPs to be returned depends upon which rules are in effect: while 736 MEPs will be elected under the Nice rules, this number would have increased to 751 if the Lisbon Treaty were in force. A further change that Lisbon would have brought was an increase to the powers of Parliament, including powers over the appointment of the President of the European Commission.

In the previous election, German Hans-Gert Pöttering of the centre-right EPP-ED won with 34% and Martin Schulz of the Socialists came second with 26%. Despite this, during the last term the two leaders shared, each serving approximately two years in office.

Europeans have also been voting in local elections of County Councils in the United Kingdom and Ireland.


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Kung Fu star Carradine found dead in Bangkok hotel

June 4, 2009

American actor David Carradine was today found dead in a hotel room in Bangkok, Thailand. The 72-year-old actor had been in Thailand for production of his latest film, Stretch.

According to Bangkok police, the star of 1970's cult TV series Kung Fu was found half-naked in a wardrobe, a cord around his neck and body; the discovery was made by a hotel maid. One of Thailand's daily papers, The Nation, reports that police state there was no evidence of an intruder, positing that the actor had hanged himself.

Carradine's biggest recent success was his appearance in Quentin Tarrantino's movie, Kill Bill. In the 2003 film he played the title character Bill. His other considerable body of work in the entertainment business included around 100 other film appearances and nominations for four Golden Globe Awards.

His personal manager, Chuck Binder, told the press the news was "shocking and sad". He described the actor behind the iconic Caine character as, "...full of life, always wanting to work... a great person."

Carradine leaves behind wife Annie Bierman and three children, two of which have followed the family tradition and become actresses.


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Kung Fu star Carradine found dead in Bangkok hotel
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requesting help with this short. --72.73.69.10 (talk) 15:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


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Also from Minneapolis. Welcome. Calebrw (talk) 17:53, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

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Tis very sad. -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 21:29, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

R.I.P. --KDP3 (talk) 22:10, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I grew up with Kung Fu on the TV in the 70s, every Saturday, the out-of-town-stranger with the wisdom of the East. It's a shame to see iconic actors go, goodness knows there's so much crap on TV these days compared to that. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:15, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

 * I'll never to be able to watch Kung Fu again without the images of that black wig and womens netting tied to Kwia Chang Caine's (David Carradine) body hanging inside a closet. Everytime I see David Carradine on Kung Fu from now on, I'll always remember him as a cross dressing pervert who killed himself with ropes tied around his genitals and a shoelace around his neck.  So sad .... there goes another phony fake hollywood celluloid hero -- showing that Hollywood has to be the biggest cesspool on earth ...

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Damn, that is sad. I normally don't care about celebrity deaths, but Kwai Chang Caine? Man that is sobbering.

Namesake
With great sadness I discovered that David Carradine had died. In 1980, my mother named me 'Caine David' after David Carradine and his character 'Kwai Chang Caine' in 'Kung-Fu'. I have always been covertly proud of this and was terribly shocked to hear of his passing. But we all must go eventually, noting that he was 72. Apart from the "Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique", I can't think of a more memorable (albeit kinky) way to go. Rest In Peace my GrassHopper. -Caine D McVean

It was ninjas!!-andy

This wasn't suicide.

he died doing what he loved

 * What? dressing up like a woman and choking himself to death while he mastrubated?  I guess so ....

I will miss David.
I've always enjoyed David's work and will miss him.

how can you hang yourself with your hands tied around you back?
According to what the maid saw, i do not agree with the idea that he killed himself. if his hands were tied around his back, how would he hang himself? you couldn't put your head through a noose and then do it!! i believe that someone else killed him. someone else had to be there. and how could his colleague go and leave him? wouldn't you if you were to work together, wait for him to get ready? it is natural. something is very wrong. i did not know him, but he was a great actor, and i would like to see some justice for his family.

I do not agree with the comments that he was a crossdresser
I do not agree with the comments that he was a crossdresser, and all the other things that people describe of him. It is the matter of his death that matters. i know nothing about him except that he was dedicated to his work and it was his life. there are many ways to kill yourself if you was really that desperate, but i do not believe that he did this himself. one of his wives concluded that he was murdered. and i believe that he was. and i do not believe that whatever he did in his private life, should be slandered. and people should think of his family and not listen and publish gossip.

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We should concentrate attention in your future and your performance, while not lingering in your dark history. Suppose that some one always talk with you about your uneasy memories, what will you feel? In that way, I think it is evil and inhumane for foreign medias to tease other people's scar.

the view for one Chinese graduate student

 * "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
 * -- The view of the poet and philosopher George Santayana

This sad event must not be forgotten. China's treatment of protests shows the flaw of its government, and its way of controlling the people. Okay if you want to stop the protest. But why kill? When there are so many other ways to stop the protests? The thinking was that killing is the most efficient way to dis-encourage other protests. Killing who? You're own citizens.

 * There was sadly simply no other way of stopping the protest. All negotiations failed to disperse the students and they started killing the soldiers first. The soldiers, who are about the same age as the students, have no anti-riot equipment but only live ammunition. For the soldiers it was a choice between to kill or to die. For the government it was to send the army or be overthrown. The students should have been able to predict the outcome and gone home earlier. What they did actually back-stepped political reforms in the country. -Funicode (talk) 03:53, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I find this version of the facts hard to believe. Students killing soldiers? -Alemaco (talk) 11:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It is true, there are videos of it. I saw one where the students burned an armored vehicle stuck in their fence and killed its occupants. The soldiers did not fight back. -209.148.133.196 (talk) 14:41, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see the footage. Afaik, no soldiers died before the crackdown began. I know there were clashes between protesters and soldiers before June 4th, but no one died. About a dozen soldiers died on the night of crackdown at the hands of angry mobs though. --142.73.67.1 (talk) 17:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

June 4th, good thing gone bad
It's a very complicated issue. It is undeniable that it was a very sad event, but not unavoidable. The protestors initially had good will for starting it, but they soon got carried away. They didn't not have a clear idea about political and social overview of the Chinese sociality and government at the time and got over their heads and started to make their demand more and more unbearable for the Communist government and shout slogans calling for Deng to step down and dismantle the CPC, a move the Chinese government would not tolerate (which involves historal and cultural factors as China always stress collectivism and central power). A nation with that vast of population and in turn complicated social structures must take any reformation and change carefully and considerately, a hasty attempt could have dire ramifactions such as Mao's Great Leap Forward movement. The protestors (especially the student movement leaders) would not step back and try to reach some kind of agreement with the government, I believe out of fear for their own safety (government could come after them after the event's over) and so they made the others stayed with them to protect their own safety and prehaps achieve some kind of goal (gain fame or even political advantage) and thus dispersed risk for all of them but in the meantime further polarized the CPC. Should the students settled down after Zhao Ziyang came to the Square, he might able to stay in his position as the future leader for China and his liberal position could done what the protestors want better should the event didn't transpire the way it was. In my opinion, we should not simply judge either side easily; for the protestors it was good thing gone bad (they got good reason and good will to voice their concerns and grievances, but got over their heads and became sort of unreasonable), for the CPC it was to sacrifice their budding image of reformers and international relationship with the west to avoid losing central control over the nation and thus in their opinion maintaining social stability. I could only say that this event helped us to better understand the difficulties of social transition and hope to avoid any repetition of such event in the future.

 * This is not true. Students attempted to talk to the government. The leaders had a fruitless talk with Li Peng because government was unwilling to give in. Secondly, student leaders were divided. Some of them like Wang Dan wanted to retreat from Tiananmen Square, while some like Chai Ling wanted to stay. A vote was held to decide which approach the students should take, and they ended up staying. Thirdly, it was obvious that Zhao Ziyang already lost his ground before he visited students. Li Peng announced the martial law one day after the visit, and so the event escalated before students had time to respond to goodwill of Zhao Ziyang. --142.73.67.1 (talk) 16:48, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I am glad they were shot those miserable motherfuckers. The government has given them so much higher living standards better lives and finally a place in the world. How did the protesters even want to remotely end that. Granted china was not like what it is today in 1989 but I do not care I support the chinese government and its actions and don't give me the fucking human rights angle your government fucking kills people and protesters not just in cities but in whole nations,

 * "...and don't give me the fucking human rights angle your government fucking kills people and protesters..." You mistake me for someone who actually elected my Prime Minister. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 12:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

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False dawn for Air France flight; debris not from crash, search continues

June 5, 2009

Teams from France and Brazil have confirmed that neither have recovered any debris from Air France Flight 447. The Airbus A330 with 228 on board vanished from radar on June 1st over the Atlantic Ocean.

The Brazilian Air Force had previously released a statement on June 2 saying debris from the lost jet had been found. A wooden cargo pallet and two buoys had been recovered, but are now believed to have been from a ship. The flight was carrying no wooden pallets. On June 2, it was reported, and previously confirmed by the Brazilian Air Force, that one seat and a life vest were found floating in the water. A fuel slick also thought to be from the plane, has also been confirmed to have come from another source, most likely a ship. The presence of fuel was used as evidence to suggest there had been no fire or explosion on board. Spanish paper El Mundo has quoted an Air Comet pilot flying over the Atlantic at the time as saying he witnessed "an intense burst of white light" falling out of the sky and breaking apart. A bomb threat, which later turned out to be "false", was also reported on a separate Air France flight from Buenos Aires, Argentina to Paris on May 27, just days before Fight 447 went missing.

The French Bureau of Enquiry and Analysis for Civil Aviation Safety (BEA) is leading the investigation, and has so far established that there were thunderstorms in the area and a series of automated signals from the plane indicated an inconsistent speed and a string of systems failures. At 11:10 p.m. the autopilot disengaged and at least one computer switched to an alternative power source. There was an indication that flight control systems had sustained damage, and this was followed by the failure of speed, heading and altitude indicators as well as flight control systems, while control systems for the central computer system and wing spoilers also failed. Four minutes after the problems began the last message indicated total electrical failure and a loss of cabin pressure.

French armed forces spokesman Christophe Prazuck commented that "Everyone has doubts about everything at the moment and we do not have the slightest beginnings of an answer yet." French paper Le Monde commented that the aircraft's speed was too low, prompting the BEA to warn against "hasty interpretation or speculation" in regards to the cause. Airbus have reminded all A330 operators of correct operating procedures in extreme weather conditions.

France has sent the research ship Pourquoi Pas? to the scene and the vessel is currently en route with mini-submarines to assist in searching for and recovering debris. The search is still underway for the plane's cockpit voice and flight data recorders, or black boxes. Brazilian officials previously said the boxes could be at the bottom of the ocean, between "2,000 or 3,000 metres [6,500 to 9,800 feet] in that area of the ocean."


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 * I like that (if like is the right word for such grim news). I will move it there but I'm going to finish the content first. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 10:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Like is the right word. The story may be grim, but how it is told is important. A key part of that is an intriguing title. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Airbus cat
I am unsure why this category was removed. From the category page: "Note that in most cases it is NOT apropriate for accidents and incidents involving Airbus aircraft to be included in this category, unless there is a direct impact on the company." I daresay most of you will agree a better wording that I didn't think of at the time would have been 'involvement of' instead of 'impact on' but the idea remains the same; and there is a strong argument that any involvement at all means there must be some impact. From the article: "Airbus have reminded all A330 operators of correct operating procedures in extreme weather conditions." That is a new development today (although it was expected since yesterday). Based on this, I am re-adding the category pending an explanation. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I was the one who removed the category, sorry about that. Based on the way the category page comments were phrased, I was under the impression that the cat should only be used if Airbus was being blamed for the accident, which doesn't seem to be the case in this article. Maybe the cat page should be rephrased to make that clearer. Tempodivalse [talk]  17:34, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict, looks like your thinking about a reword for the cat too) No worries, I was just a little confused myself. I understand you now. I'll add that reword I proposed above, and try and think of a way of making usage clearer (help welcome!). You were right to follow what you felt was the correct interpretation, it is confusing (I'm allowed to slag it off. I wrote it ;-). Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:38, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It should be more where it is news about Airbus - in much the same way as, apart from geeks, nobody really blames Microsoft when a laptop full of sensitive data gets lost or stolen. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to get that accross in a way a newcomer would understand; specifically, most accidents/incidents are not about the airframer. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


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British singer Susan Boyle released from clinic

June 5, 2009 British singer Susan Boyle has been released from a private mental clinic. On May 31, Boyle was admitted by ambulance to the Priory clinic in London, England after she began to act strange in her hotel room, reportedly suffering an "emotional breakdown."

Boyle's brother, Gerry Boyle, told GMTV that Susan is "a lot more like herself," and that she is "much happier." He also added that Boyle is "now beginning to believe that, 'Yes indeed, I will be a singer.'"

Boyle, 47, from Blackburn, West Lothian, in Scotland, came in second place on the British reality show Britain's Got Talent (BGT). Boyle was beaten by the dance group Diversity on Saturday who got 24% of the public vote, with Boyle receiving 20%. She took the world by storm after her debut appearance on April 11 singing "I Dreamed a Dream" from the award-winning musical Les Misérables. Just a day after appearing on the show, Boyle became a YouTube sensation with her performance receiving nearly 9 million views. To date, the YouTube clip has been viewed by over 66 million people worldwide.

Traditionally, finalists of the show go on a concert tour of the UK, although producers for Britain's Got Talent will not say whether Boyle plans to be a part of it. A spokesperson stated they are respecting Boyle's privacy amid her health concerns. Rehearsals for the tour are reported to begin next week, with the first show starting on June 12.


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Palestinian protester killed by Israeli soldiers

June 6, 2009

A Palestinian was shot and killed by Israeli forces today while protesting the separation wall in the West Bank village of Nilin. Another protester, who is 15, was wounded.

Aqel Srur, who was 35, died in an ambulance while en route to a local hospital. He had been fatally shot once in the heart. Palestinians were fired upon by Israeli forces after they began to throw stones at the soldiers. Palestinian officials say Srur was shot once with a single round of live ammunition, something an Israeli Defense Force (IDF) spokesperson could not confirm.

According to the spokesperson, the IDF used "riot dispersal means," which included metal bullets coated with rubber and tear gas.

Srur was protesting Israel's separation barrier, which spans 723km and surrounds West Bank cities, separating them from one another. Israel says the separation walls are needed for security reasons, but Palestinians say it turns their villages into prisons.

Palestinian and international activists have gathered almost every Friday for the last two years to protest the separation barrier in Nilin. In many cases the protests end with violence. In April, Basem Abu Rahmeh, age 30 was shot and killed by Israeli forces, also while protesting the Israeli separation wall in Bilin.

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Explosion in Pakistan mosque kills dozens

June 5, 2009 A bomb blast at a mosque in northwestern Pakistan is suspected to have killed at least forty people on Friday.

According to police reports, the explosion happened in a village located in the district of the. The incident occurred while worshipers were offering the Friday prayers.

"Around 40 people are killed. We have no idea as yet how many have been wounded," said Atif-ur-Rehman, a senior government administrator of Upper Dir.

The mosque was damaged heavily by the explosion, and many people have been trapped under debris.

"A large number of body parts are scattered in the mosque. We don't know whether these are parts of the dead who have been identified or of others," said Umer Rehman, one of the village's residents, to the Reuters news agency.

This is the ninth bomb blast in Pakistan since the country's armed forces started attacks against the Taliban in the nearby valley from the past few months, in an attempt to force the fighters out of the area.

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US unemployment rate reaches 9.4 percent

June 5, 2009 Data from the United States Labor Department says that the unemployment rate in the U.S. has reached its highest level in over 25 years, namely 9.4%.

The job loss rate, however, was only 345,000, which is the lowest monthly job loss rate since September of last year. Analysts had predicted that the loss could be as high as 525,000.

The news suggests that the US economy may be improving, as the job loss rate, which peaked at 741,000 jobs this January, has started to ease.

"Even as we see things start to stabilize and hopefully grow again, we do know that unemployment tends to lag, and so that the unemployment rate is going to be high and probably stay high for a while, precisely because that is sort of the normal pattern as we come out of recession," said an economic adviser for the White House, Christina Romer.

Since the recession officially started in December 2007, the economy has shed over six million jobs, with 14.5 million residents now unemployed.


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editprotected I'd like Category:Asif Ali Zardari and Category:Yousaf Raza Gillani. Rana (talk) 11:03, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
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I will never get it. What is the point of blowing up a mosque if your Muslims? How dos this help there cause? How do they benefits and how do they convince people kill themselves ? --KDP3 (talk) 19:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Usually such violence is Sunni vs Shiite. Basically, it's just like Catholic vs Protestant in Northern Ireland. Gopher65talk 03:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think an even smaller distinction was drawn here. You are not a good enough Muslim if you don't violently oppose the government. Or something along those lines. --SVTCobra 03:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think this violence was more pro- vs. anti-Taliban. The Taliban's agenda is overall more socio-political than religious, and it's implied, at least in the Al Jazeera source that the mosque was providing aid to internally displaced persons from the Swat region. These people were probably anti-Taliban in orientation, so the terrorists took it upon themselves to murder them. 209.30.89.135 (talk) 09:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Taliban bomb mosque?
Why do the taliban bomb mosques when they claim to be the guardians of the faith? Lilaac (talk) 14:53, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


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Why dos Russia fear a missile defense shield? --KDP3 (talk) 19:04, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Because a workable defence shield makes limited nuclear conflict feasible and takes away the balance of Mutually Assured Destruction. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


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Penske Auto selected to buy General Motors' Saturn unit

June 5, 2009

General Motors Corporation (GM), an American automaker which has filed for protection, announced on Friday that the  (PAG) was selected to purchase. The transaction should be completed in October.

The purchase includes rights to the Saturn brand, its five current models and its dealership network. Two models would be discontinued, the and. GM would continue building the sedan, the SUV's,  and  for at least two more years.

Saturn has 350 dealers across the United States. The dealers employ more than 13,000 jobs and sell only the Saturn autos. Canadian Saturn dealers are not included in the deal.

According to Penske future Saturn vehicles will be fuel economy focused. An expert indicated that this would move Saturn back to its roots of a entry level car company. PAG is in talks with several international automakers to replace GM after 2011. Automotive News reports that of Korea is the most likely candidate.

Penske wants Jill Lajdziak, Saturn's general manager, and, former Chrysler President to head up the company when it is independent of GM.

Serra Automotive in, , is in talks to take a partial ownership in a new Saturn lead by Penske.