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This reminds me of
This reminds me of my friend Graeme telling me that the furry rodent in the plastic box was a "Syrian hamster". Didn't look Syrian to me... It didn't have mini sticks of dynamite strapped to its chest. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Brian, this is not what the "collaboration" page is for. Please use the opinion page for commentary. --ANonHubbard - (talk) 01:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't try and teach the crocodile how to swim. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

OR
I added the OR tag due to reliance on primary sources. I am going to go look for some other possible secondary sources. Cirt - (talk) 01:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Possible commentary
Threads to follow for possible commentary/snippets: Both threads appear to contain comments from both critics of Scientology and supporters/Scientologists, or at least one Scientology supporter/Scientologist who goes by "Tom N" or "Tom Newton". Cirt - (talk) 06:31, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Deletion request
There was a Deletion request which led to a discussion of whether or not to delete this article, and the result was "Speedy keep." - The discussion is here. Cirt - (talk) 07:56, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Deletion request was reopened, and then later closed again with same result, "Speedy keep.". The discussion is here. Cirt - (talk) 00:11, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Digg effect
I apologize to Wikileaks now for bringing down their servers because of digg.com. At 3:30 a.m. eastern time, Wikinews went on the front page of digg. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 08:35, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews article hits front page of Digg.com while undergoing Deletion request
This article hit the front page of Digg.com at 07:39 UTC (currently still at the front page with 601 Diggs) while in the midst of an ongoing deletion request at Deletion requests. Can anyone say Streisand effect? (Also posted to Water cooler/miscellaneous) I think that this is a most interesting first for Wikinews. Cirt - (talk) 09:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikinews articles that made front page of Digg.com
 * 1) - Digg.com link
 * 2) - Digg.com link
 * 3) - Digg.com link - also believed to be the first time that a Wikinews article made the front page of Digg.com, while also undergoing a Deletion request discussion.  Cirt - (talk) 10:35, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Blog exposure

 * Wikileaks retaliates against Scientology - This blog post is neat because it uses the title from the Digg.com posting, and includes a screenshot of the Wikinews article - while it still has the Deletion requests tag at the top of the article. Cirt - (talk) 09:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Church of Scientology warns Wikileaks, World Student Press Agency - basically a mirror, but they added a neat subtitle: "Church flexes it’s muscles over leaked documents". Cirt - (talk) 15:00, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Sources that came out about this, post this article's publish
Listing sources that covered this news topic, post this article's publish, here below. Cirt - (talk) 07:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC) I'll quote a portion from this next latest source here below, because it is worth noting here, especially in light of the closed deletion discussion for this article: It's been a busy week both here and abroad on the IT front with the Yahoo!-Microsoft stoush becoming surreal, Telecom New Zealand getting real and (our most popular story for the week) Wikileaks picking a fight with those scary Scientologists. [...] The other big story for us was the Church of Scientology threatening Wikileaks over the publication of secret church documents. Okay, it's a long bow to say this is IT, aside from the fact it involves a website and church lawyers themselves call the documents "confidential Advanced Technology". But you readers loved it nonetheless.
 * So according to m-net, their, quote, "most popular story for the week" was their piece on Scientology/Wikileaks (cited above from April 8) - and yet this Wikinews article beat both The Register and m-net to it - published April 7. Cirt - (talk) 10:35, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * We beat everyone to this story. Wikileaks gave us a heads up before the letter was even on their site. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * We beat everyone to this story. Wikileaks gave us a heads up before the letter was even on their site. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 11:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

The Register kinda ripped us off :( DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 10:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe sorta take that as a compliment to your writing. Cirt - (talk) 10:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Came up in a news search, cites Wikinews (this article). Cirt - (talk) 05:28, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Came up in a news search, cites Wikinews (this article). Cirt - (talk) 05:28, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Scientology members would pass along that more than 600 pages of their most sacred (and secret) religious documents had been posted there too. [...] Even the case of posting Scientology's private information is a clear judgment call: Does the public stand to benefit from the outing of the organization's most closely guarded secrets? Who says?
 * An interesting report on this in the Los Angeles Times. Cirt - (talk) 09:24, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Mentions Wikinews and Wikimedia Foundation, related to a different article, as well as Wikileaks. Cirt (talk) 09:28, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Mentions Wikinews and Wikimedia Foundation, related to a different article, as well as Wikileaks. Cirt (talk) 09:28, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Church of Scientology warns Wikileaks over documents

Well done by wikileaks to keep up with ensuring documents of all kinds that expose governments, cults or corrupt corporations be freely and easily available to the public.

—24.47.194.109 00:19, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

The approach taken by wikinews to countering Scientology and its minions is correct
I congratulate Wikinews for taking this bold approach to countering the legal threats sent in by Scientology. This move could result in CoS revising its methods of dealing with copyright on their documents.

The threat that this disclosure of the scientology documents poses to CoS cannot be underestimated because it makes it difficult for CoS to oppress its members if information about their beliefs and their methods is exposed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.247.255.57 (talk) 07:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Wikinews is not affiliated with Wikileaks ... --SVTCobra 23:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

That is so awesome. Xenu will be so mad at you. ::shivers:: It looked to me like a legal threat and commends to wikileaks to show some backbone and fight back with the ultimate comeback. South Park explained scientology perfectly.. these thousands of documents won't mean anything to anyone but gape-mouthed scientologists. Down with legal threats!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.128.166.68 (talk) 07:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Digg effect
I apologize to Wikileaks now for bringing down their servers because of digg.com. At 3:30 a.m. eastern time, Wikinews went on the front page of digg. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 08:36, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

YES!!!
YESSSS! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.7.43.114 (talk) 13:22, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Church of Scientology - what a bunch of ibeciles
Church of Scientology - what a bunch of ibeciles —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.239.156.136 (talk) 13:26, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Might want to check your spelling there. 70.50.73.207 15:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)Lulzfactory

Good for wiki
more pain for the fake church of runninig members lives. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.84.145.172 (talk) 15:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Well...
Looks like they got taken down one way or another. Loads blank page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.160.16.192 (talk) 17:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

INDEED I DO HAVE A RESONSE..
..FACK EM! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.106.253 (talk) 19:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

WIN
FUCK YEA SEAKING!

WTG
Wtg Wikileaks! Fephisto - (talk) 01:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Where there is smoke .. you will find a lawyer!
As with so many of the fantastically corrupt scenarios that cram newspapers all over the world, this organization seem to believe that 'the truth will NOT set you free'! Religion is and has always been a really handy way to con people! How great is it that we are now in a position to expose it for what it really is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.207.32.37 (talk) 09:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * There is something of a large difference between a religion and a cult. One easy way to tell them apart is that religions love to spread their beliefs around; only cults want to hide them.  You don't see Christians suing over there being unauthorized copies of their religious "tech" in every motel room in America, do you?  That's hint #1...  ;)  --on WP as user:Kasreyn.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.127.107.8 (talk) 14:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

HAHA
Bwahahahahaha suckers...

It came to me in a dream...
...and I don't care if I get the credit for having the idea that finally brought CoS down.

It's very simple. Here's the new rule:

If you want to be a tax-exempt religious organization in the USA, you can't be a for-profit organization, and you can't have any IP (intellectual property) - everything goes public domain.

No valid religion would be harmed by either of those requirements. Only cults would.

Save your applause and write your reps! :P --on WP as User:Kasreyn. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.127.107.8 (talk) 14:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Where's the Beef?
I really fail to understand why so many people are so hostile to the so-called Church of Scientology. It's not really a church in the usual sense, of course, and maybe that's not a bad thing? People are entitled to believe what the want to believe. After all, a whole lot of people believe that 2000 years ago a guy died and rose from the dead after three days and then ascended to heaven and is gonna come back and whup up on everybody who doesn't believe it at some point. That's pretty far out in my opinion. The bad thing is that the people who believe that nonsense are mostly the ones in charge of this planet and have a lot to answer for.

So why don't all these people with these do-gooder impulses start working over the groups that back crazy presidents who start wars over mythical WMDs and kill millions because god told him to. So far, I haven't seen the Scientologists doing anything like that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.235.142.9 (talk) 15:41, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not Scientology that people have a problem with, it's a problem with the Church of Scientology 199.190.223.190 14:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The CO$ tried to censor the internet. The internetz got pissed off. That's basically why Anon is after the CO$. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.119.149.32 (talk) 23:18, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

C.O.S. isn't making it any easier...
I, as a full supporter of anon, will cower slightly in fear of my life while saying “GO WIKILEAKS!”. Like I have previously stated, I support anon, and as such, believe the C.O.S. (Church of Scientology) is, for the thousandth time, overreacting when people don’t have to pay $600 before reading church documents. I fully support Wikileaks and will rejoice when the internet explodes when they release these “millions of C.O.S. documents”. The fact that people are actually reacting and paying attention to this news simply means that anonymous is winning this “war”. By “requesting” that Wikileaks take of the Church documents, the C.O.S. is simply digging a deeper grave for themselves. After the incident of taking videos of youtube, the Church doesn’t need another excuse for people to call “breaking of the right to free speech”…again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.223.233.194 (talk) 03:31, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Bravo!! Wikileaks continue, to resist the greed of this satanic octopus organization, if your effort can save only a life of a vulnerable youngster, you have accomplished a “miracle”. Thank you. Rene 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rene000000 (talk • contribs) 08:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Bravo!! Wikileaks continue, to resist the greed of this satanic octopus organization, if your effort can save only a life of a vulnerable youngster, you have accomplished a “miracle”. Thank you.

Rene 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rene000000 (talk • contribs) 08:17, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Awesome
Wikileaks further states that, "in response to the attempted suppression, Wikileaks will release several thousand additional pages of Scientology material next week."

YES! DO IT FOR THE GLORY OF ANONYMOUS! 124.188.168.143 02:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah!

You Go Wikileaks!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.73.182.224 (talk) 21:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

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OMG, that is brilliant!

Comments from feedback form - "I'ts about time !! Cheers fo..."
I'ts about time !! Cheers for Wikileaks !! —76.30.32.148 (talk) 14:17, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Freedom of Religion
As a Unitarian Universalist I believe open enquieries into religious freedom should be tolerated by all participants of religion, and that religions should serve to help all people get along together. Transparency is vital to help serve the trust of the people! As we all know as students of history, it is rarely the case when religion cooperates with all of the people all of the time. For example, I believe that female sexual equality under the secular law should be respected and observed, and don't understand why religions are tax exempt when they openly defy the secular laws put in place for the good of the people! All religions should be bound by such humanistic concerns, with Catholics bound to hire women to highest church positions; but, rather than to encourage religious organizations to do the right thing, we allow them to run media empires to spread propaganda of foolish science and magic to the masses that subvert and defy good government run on behalf of the best interests of a free society. We should hold All Religions to the fire, even the one's misnomered as of true Science, the Scientologist's.

Eric Wynne Taylor

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more detail needed —41.174.21.159 (talk) 04:28, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

usa-the assassins' nation
''Scientology confirms its own decadent culture by its threats. usa-the assassins' nation/church of scientology-a supporter of assassins'' usa- the assassins' nation seeks to divide & conquer all nations and all peoples.

'''Regarding the leaks,

Well, USA-if you have done nothing wrong, then you have nothing to fear from the T R U T H. Be Set Free by admitting to ongoing & insufferable crimes against H U M A N I T Y .''' http://www.sosbeevfbi.com/part4-worldinabo.html

questions! GERAL SOSBEE(956)536-3103

Are You Being Fair people. . . .Open your eyes.
Free press = aware and strong citizens. I am disgusted at Julia Gillard joining the states in their quest to cover their constant disgraces. I am disgusted to be Australian. Who would have thought governments would be held accountable, and people like Cheney would start facing the courts.

If the news provided is bad, it's because of poor administration, not true journalism. All media in Iraq was controlled and spoon fed. Wake up people. Wake up now. There is blood on all of our hands when we plead ignorance. USA and now Australia love war on nouns. . .well this is a war on factual information, on accountability and simple truth.

Where in the world does "freedom" or "morality" still exist when facilitators of truth are threatened with execution?

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yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I pledge my support 4 assange 4 one billion years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —75.65.162.123 (talk) 03:36, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

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Nothing on this site is unbias, but that is what gets the truth out! —208.122.78.126 (talk) 17:27, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

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Excellent.
There IS news away from elected officials ;) 68.39.174.238 02:19, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Nice article - I am an Aussie living in San Francisco. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.60.64.139 (talk) 18:33, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


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South Australian father and daughter in sexual relationship

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A couple in South Australia, Australia have admitted to being father and daughter in an interview on Nine Network's 60 Minutes program.

John Deaves met his daughter, Jenny, 30 years after his separation from her mother. Jenny had two children from a prior relationship, and had brought them to meet him. "I had children," said Jenny in the interview. "And I felt as though he needed to be part of their lives as their grandfather."

Both John and Jenny claim that, despite being aware of their blood ties, they found themselves physically and emotionally attracted to each other, and within a couple of weeks they formed a "normal, sexual, loving couple relationship."

The couple were charged with incest in the South Australian District Court, where both pled guilty and were released on a A$500 good behaviour bond. Their three children — two from Jenny's previous relationship and a nine-month-old parented by the two — have been taken into care by the state's Department for Families and Communities, but were returned. Court documents also reveal another child the two conceived seven years ago, but who died soon after birth due to a congenital heart disorder.

The pair have been barred from having sex with each other, and will be observed by authorities, but have been allowed to continue living together.


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2007/08 FA Cup: Cardiff joins Portsmouth in Cup final

April 6, 2008

Cardiff will return to Wembley next month to play Portsmouth in the FA Cup final after defeating Barnsley on Sunday. Both teams defeated Premier League opposition to get to this stage, with Cardiff defeating Middlesbrough and Barnsley toppling London giants Chelsea. The teams continued their positive play in this match, but only a single goal was scored in the game.

It was Joe Ledley who opened the game up early with his well aimed volley. Cardiff pressurized the Barnsley goal early, and just as Robert Kozluk cleared the ball away with his head, Ledley connected with his left foot to float the ball over Luke Steele and give Cardiff the lead. The goal lit a fire under Barnsley and Stephen Foster could have equalized within minutes, but his header flew just wide. The game was played end to end for much of the first half, with Cardiff providing more of the games cutting edge.

In the second half the game continued to be played open. Ledley had a strong run down the sidelines for Cardiff, but Rae's header from the resulting cross was sent directly into Steele's arms. Kayode Odejayi then missed a glorious chance for Barnsley to draw level in the 66th minute. The Nigerian striker found himself one-on-one with Cardiff keeper Peter Enckelman, but Odejayi's shot went wide, rippling the side netting. Barnsley continued to push for the equalizer, but couldn't find the quality they had to take out Chelsea and Liverpool in previous rounds.

The appearance in the final is Cardiff's first since 1927 when they defeated Arsenal 1-0 and brought the FA Cup to Wales. The Bluebirds will look to take the trophy out of England for only the second time in history through 127 finals. Portsmouth and Cardiff will face off in the final on May 17th at Wembley.


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Watched game, wrote article. Kingjeff started article, i picked it out of the development bin since i had seen the game. Dark_Squall - (talk) 05:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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Category:Toronto, Ontario and Category:Ontario should be added. Kingjeff - (talk) 04:09, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅. Cirt - (talk) 21:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Category:2008 Major League Soccer season needs to be added. Kingjeff - (talk) 21:06, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ --Brian McNeil / talk 09:54, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Default sort for categories should be Toronto FC vs. D.C. United Kingjeff (talk) 00:39, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
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Nikolay Davydenko beats Rafael Nadal in Sony Ericsson Open

April 7, 2008 Nikolay Davydenko, from Russia beat Rafael Nadal in the Sony Ericsson Open, which takes place in Florida.

Davyenko commented on his performance after the match. He said that his "tennis was so good today. I think it's the best tennis of the hard-court season." He continued, "Here Nadal was favourite, and also in semi-final Roddick was the favorite. Just to beat two guys in two sets is like amazing for me."

Nadal also commented on his performance. "I think he [Davydenko] played at a good level. He played a good match, but I didn't play well today." He continued, "So when you don't play at 100% at this level against top players, it's tough to win, especially on a hard surface. So I congratulate him more because he played better than me."


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April 8, 2008

At 11:16 GMT (17:16 local time) this morning, a Russian Soyuz-FG carrier rocket launched from Site 1/5 at the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, with the Soyuz TMA-12 spacecraft, on a mission to the International Space Station (ISS). Aboard were three cosmonauts; Russians Sergei Volkov and Oleg Kononenko, and South Korean Yi So-yeon. Volkov and Kononenko make up the ISS Expedition 17 crew, whilst Yi is flying as a Spaceflight Participant through the Korean Astronaut Programme. All three are making their first trip into space.

Two major firsts are being achieved on this mission. Yi is the first South Korean to fly in space, and Volkov is the first second-generation space traveller, his father Alexander Volkov having flown three space missions, Soyuz T-14, TM-7 and TM-13, spending over a year aboard the Mir space station across the three missions.

Soyuz TMA-12 successfully separated from the carrier rocket about nine minutes after lift off. Docking with the Pirs module of International Space Station is planned for Thursday at 13:00 GMT. In preparation for docking, the Progress M-63 cargo spacecraft undocked at 08:30 GMT yesterday morning, and was de-orbited to burn-up in the Earth's atmosphere at 11:50.

The TMA-12 spacecraft will remain docked to the ISS as an emergency escape capsule until October, when it will be used to return the Expedition 17 crew to Earth, along with space tourist Richard Garriott. Yi So-yeon will return to Earth aboard Soyuz TMA-11, which is scheduled to land in just under a fortnight's time.

This is the 99th manned flight of the Soyuz programme, the first of which was launched in late April 1967, and the 107th manned flight of the Soviet/Russian space programme. It is the fifteenth orbital, and third manned launch of 2008.

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Olympic torch extinguished three times in Paris

April 7, 2008 Today, the Olympic torch went out three times while traveling through Paris, France. Olympic officials claim that this came as a result of actions by Pro-Tibetan protesters. It has been reported that the torch was extinguished, then put on a bus to keep it safe. The torch was extinguished one time by a Chinese official when the torch was in the hands of David Douillet, and one time due to technical problems. Sylvain Garel, of the Green Party and member of the Paris City Council tried to catch the torch from bearer Stephane Diagana's hands. A ceremony on City Hall Plaza was canceled, "by Chinese officials" according to Paris' mayor Bertrand Delanoë. A banner with "Paris defends human rights around the world" was installed on the City Hall. Reporters without Borders, head of the protest in France, put a banner on the Eiffel Tower and on Notre-Dame de Paris by its Secretary-General Robert Ménard.

This action comes soon after the official news agency of China described the actions by the protesters as "vile misdeeds". A spokesman for Beijing 2008 said “the torch represents the Olympic spirit and people welcome the torch.”

A spokesperson for the International Olympic Committee said that the IOC is concerned about the situation in Tibet, although they do not encourage people to disrupt the ceremonies. The spokesperson said "The International Olympic Committee has expressed its serious concern and calls for a rapid peaceful resolution in Tibet." He did, however, say that the style of protesting was "not compatible with the values of the torch relay or the Olympic Games".

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The French did something right for once --66.229.16.129 15:31, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure where your from, due to blatant racism im going to say US, but if you look at france in terms of quality of life, green power or protesting, then its doing much better than most countries. So OFC they can riot for a good cause, hell look up the French revolution. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.192.193 (talk) 18:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * And what kind of bigotry do you consider your own statement to be, "due to blatant racism im going to say US"?--SVTCobra 18:56, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 82.35.192.193, you do realise how much of a hypocrite you are being. Presumably some kind of joke?Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 19:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

tibet is a part of the PRC and the vandalism of these short-sighted idealists is a meaningless disgrace, makes sense that it would happen in France though, where they protest every other week about labor this or muslim that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.228.93.202 (talk) 22:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah those silly French, protesting negative things like the oppressive, tyrannical, and just plain stupid PRC government and its human rights abuses. Why don't they protest positive things for a change like freedom of speech or intellectual freedom? Oh wait, I forgot the PRC's government thinks those things are negative. My bad. Alexjohnc3 - (talk) 23:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I find that it is unneccessary that everyone is tampering with the general meaning of the games and combining athletics with politics. The Olympics are about spirit, passion, pride and steroids, but thats another problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.233.121.29 (talk) 23:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * China wanted to hold the Olympic games because of political reasons. They just wanted to show how developed and good of a country China is. The Olympics can never be separated from politics, whether one likes it or not. Stephenchou0722 - (talk) 00:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Why on earth though, did the Olympic Commitee decide to let China host it, given the poor quality of the air in Beijing? I also read somewhere that people tested the chicken there, and there was such a high steroid content that an athlete who was tested after eating them would test positive for steroids. Isn't it also ironic that China has to screen the television broadcasts, presumably to make sure they look good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.252.55.149 (talk) 02:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

The foolish anti-china sentiment does nothing for the cause of those trying to reduce the ethnic driven chaos that consumes the region of Tibet. It instead casts their own group as nothing more than hoodlums and childish pranksters. This is the fault of the separatists, the majority of whom have never seen Tibet and are following whims of foreign powers seeking to subjugate China once again. Tibet is a lawful part of PRC. It has been a part of China longer than it was ever independent. Even more than the Catalan people are Spanish, Tibetans are Chinese. For those who dispute this claiming non-interference in the past, please review history of how the first dali lama came to power at the will of the army of China. 66.157.111.48 09:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I am curious why French didn't protest the torch relay when it was created,oh I forgot that was Nazi Germany did it first and I don't think French dared to do so then. Ask your athlete to quit Olympic first before your protest. You are doing the same thing when you throw the word "hypocrite" to China. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.25.32.210 (talk) 03:52, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Support Beijing 2008 Olimpic! Tibet was, is and will be a part of China. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.185.221.172 (talk) 05:05, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

French and other minority of westerners did wrong ang wrong things for Olimpic! They have hurt the feelings of Chinese and all the people who love peace! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.185.221.172 (talk) 05:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Could someone please write these in the article? Store protester mot OL-fakkelstafetten i Paris Franska poliser släcker OS-facklan Marius2 (talk) 21:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Willdo in a minute, just wanted to highlight that the correct way to get something like this added to an archived article is to put editprotected on the talk page followed by your requested change. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:56, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
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Former Managing Director of Gambian newspaper appears in court

April 7, 2008 The former managing director of the Gambian newspaper, The Daily Observer, Dr. Saja Taal, testified today in Banjul Magistrates’ Court as part of the trial of Mam Sait Ceesay, who was formerly the State House Press Officer in Gambia.

Taal said in court that he knew Mam Sait Ceesay. “I used to work at the Daily Observer as Managing Director up to November 2007. I know the accused," he said. He continued by describing his former job at the observer. "My Job entailed the management of the paper, both financial management, personnel management and also the content. The Managing Director is responsible for the publication of all stories," he said.

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Princess Diana jury returns verdict of "unlawful killing"

April 7, 2008 The jury of the inquest into the death of Princess Diana has returned a majority verdict, by 9 to 2, saying that the Princess was unlawfully killed through "grossly negligent driving" or "gross negligence manslaughter" on the part of Henri Paul who was driving and the paparazzi who were following the Mercedes before it crashed.

The jury also specified that Henri Paul's driving, and the fact that all the passengers were not wearing seat belts, were also contributing causes to their deaths, additionally returning the same verdict for Dodi Al Fayed. The jury was sent to make its decision on Wednesday, April 2, after Coroner Lord Justice Scott Baker told them a majority of 9 was acceptable and that for a decision of unlawful killing to be delivered, then they must be sure beyond any reasonable doubt that the deaths were caused by recklessness.

Dodi Al Fayed's father, Mohammed, said that he would not accept the verdict delivered.

The verdict ends the 6 month investigation into the Princess' death, 10 years after her Mercedes crashed into a pillar in the Pont d'Alma road tunnel in Paris, France, on August 31, 1997.


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Please fix this per WN:WEASEL: "This is thought to be due to "gross negligence"" Who thinks that? It must be specified or the whole sentence omitted. --SVTCobra 18:14, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


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Prince Harry is Getting Married
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Comments:South Australian father and daughter in sexual relationship

"The pair have been barred from having sex with each other, and will be observed by authorities, but have been allowed to continue living together."
 * I wonder what unlucky guys get the job of keeping an eye on them to make sure they aren't having sex.--66.75.48.94 00:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I may not agree with it, but isn't this victimless crime? Fephisto - (talk) 01:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * They had a child that died of a birth defect. That's when it stops being victim-less. Spacehusky - (talk) 02:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If its incest but not for the sake of procreation then there is no moral fault in it. Let them do what the fuck they want to do. As long as they don't conceive any more children there will be no victims. Also, incest only raises the chances of congenital birth defects from 4% to about 8%, so big deal. Their government needs to get the fuck out of people's bedrooms. Rekov - (talk) 03:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * By Spacehusky's reasoning, why shouldn't we be monitoring genetic probabilities of defects for all sexual partners? Fephisto - (talk) 22:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with that in principle. Spacehusky - (talk) 22:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you realize that if you do this, you've effectively banned sexual freedom? Out of curiosity, are you a utilitarian?  Fephisto - (talk) 18:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Isn't this based on a Christian principle? If so then it is wrong. Enlil Ninlil - (talk) 23:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

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its gross so gross its like hearing that a hippo had sex with a mutated sea bird to be honest and for serious i dont understand but if they love each other let them be together in prison much love snoo snoo and buttercake —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.14.53.46 (talk) 04:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

INCREDIBLE
I THINK THIS IS VERY SHOCKIN THE WORLD IS BECOMINGN WORST DAY BY DAY

WE NEED TO STOP THIS SOMEWHERE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.88.179.106 (talk) 08:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Well at least we dont have 30 year wars, 100 year wars, crusades, and reduced the chance of a world war. Maybe Rome was better with thugs takeing revenge on their enemies (usually the other half of the population). You see the world isn't getting worse or better, it is just that our perspective drives this view. Though genecide has been around for thousands of years. Enlil Ninlil - (talk) 23:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

this family looks like animals.what is the differnts betwen the animals and humanbeings.What is the fathers duty. he must look after his daugthers life.this is the differnts betwen islam.The Islam is not allow, such kind of things. So I like Islamic ways.also Tibetian people also dont likes such kind of bad things.I am being chinese I like Tibetian people very much and they are so brave men so Strong.they never afraid of any people and so religeous.I got suprise some people said he is not good man. but I heard that he got Nobel prize. how bad man got Nobel prize —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.82.167.156 (talk) 18:13, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Love is sex!
If they love each other they understand each other they should continue doing so and producing new children because their sexual and physical needs meet both ends! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MZRSial (talk • contribs) 10:20, 12 November 2017 (UTC)


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What's the charge? Fephisto - (talk) 01:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
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401 children from Texas sect compound taken into custody

April 7, 2008

133 women and 401 allegedly abused children have been taken into state custody after officials received a call from a distressed 16-year-old girl. The children were found in a 1700-acre compound belonging to the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints during a raid which started on Saturday. Children as young as 6 months have been removed from the compound.

The 16-year-old girl called in saying that she had been abused and forced to marry a 50 year old man. The girl also said that in the compound – which included a medical facility, a cheese-making plant, a cement plant, a school, numerous large housing units, and a white limestone temple – some females as young as 14 and 15 were already mothers. The girl has not yet been identified.

The women leaving the compound were wearing home sewn, ankle-length dresses and were said to have been kept in isolation from the outside world.

A spokesperson affiliated with the Texas Department of Public Safety has said that so far, one person has been arrested for "interfering with the duties of a public servant." She also told reporters that "an unknown number of men remain on the compound and are not free to leave."

The children will be assigned attorneys and the case hearing will be held next week. Meanwhile, the children will be staying in temporary shelters, which officials say are filling up fast.

Police had been monitoring the compound ever since it was bought by the sect one year ago.

The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, a polygamist sect led by Warren Jeffs – jailed last year for the rape and forced marriage of a 14 year old girl – is a breakaway branch of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which abandoned the practice of polygamy in 1890.


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April 8, 2008A boy in Australia has died after being bit on the leg by a shark. The boy, who was sixteen years old was with a friend at the time of the attack. The friend claimed that he believed the victim was joking when he was being attacked by a shark. "I thought he was only joking, so I went over to him and as I flipped him over I saw his leg," he said.

The attack, which occurred off northern New South Wales, Australia, was the first fatality from a shark attack in the area for over two years. There have, however been many more attacks which have not resulted in deaths.

It is unusual for sharks to attack humans. According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), attacks on humans are normally a result of mistakes by the shark. The NOAA also says that sharks sometimes mistake humans for its natural prey, such as fish or a marine mammal or sea turtle, and that sharks most often will release the person after the first bite. It has also been claimed that the majority of shark bites are "hit-and-run" attacks by smaller species, such as blacktip and spinner sharks.

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Incest in Australia, now this.

What next?

 * Probably child porn in the UK. There's always a child porn ring somewhere in the world for the police to break up. Chris Mann (Say hi!|Stalk me!) 06:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Is the symbol of child rapist like the same one of that ice cream company? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.16.129 (talk) 11:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

There are hundreds of destructive high control groups! Many are fundamentalist Christians!
I have posted a video link at the end of this post of a morning news show with Cult Expert Steve Hassan. As the co-host on the show asked and was not answered “Are they going to be able to handle this many people?” Will they have the manpower and resources to meet these peoples needs? Needs that will be there for years to come? Where are they going to find that many specialized exit counselors and therapist and the “safe havens” needed for these people? Not to mention the food, clothing, shelter and medical needs! Who is going to pay for this? We all know they don’t have health insurance! Is Texas going to pass a bill similar to the one passed in Utah to help “The Lost Boys” ? (which by the way was a “drop in the bucket” compared to what is actually needed). Why aren’t there Federal funds for this? When will this nation realize it’s a national epidemic? A Kingdom of Cults? A world wide plague?

http://www.mandjshow.com/videos/polygamy-in-texas/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.190.117.25 (talk) 18:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Kinda makes you want to run out and do mass castrations, doesn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.125.90.196 (talk) 01:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd love to see the faces of | Christopher Hitchens and | Richard Dawkins once they learned of this news!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.97.186.179 (talk) 13:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

This is another Jonestown waiting to happen. Its ridiculous that these people think they can make their own private community with whatever rules they want. Why was something not done before? These women and children lived in that environment thinking that it was normal. Not knowing that what was being done to them was wrong. They are going to need serious help to reassimilate into the real world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.149.228.12 (talk) 17:56, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

My girlfriend and I both think this whole thing is BS. This whole thing. No one knows better than the mothers and their children what the conditions are like. They haven't FOUND the original complainant. This whole thing is going to lead to a massive miscarriage of justice. Are we the only ones? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.71.219.100 (talk) 01:11, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


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"Found" ?
This isn't really the correct title here - no one was "found", they were already there. A better title would be something like "Hundreds leave Texas sect compound", or "401 children from Texas sect compound taken into custody". Cirt - (talk) 06:43, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Renamed to "401 children from Texas sect compound taken into custody". Cirt - (talk) 06:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hahaha. I'm not really good at naming things. I like your name much better. 99.226.39.245 11:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Late edits
There seem to be massive amounts of late edits to this article. Please stop. If there are new developments or new information coming to light they should be written about in a new article. --SVTCobra 22:22, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Removed massive content changes made way after articles publish date, per this comment by and per WN:ARCHIVE.  Cirt - (talk) 22:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

The edits are to correct problems with the article, which include statements that Warren Jeffs founded the FLDS church (which he did not, he merely led it for a time), that the call came from Eldorado, Texas (which it did not, as it is stated in the sources that it came from the YFZ Ranch which is near, but not in Eldorado), and a non-specific link out to Department of Public Safety when there is a WP article for Texas Department of Public Safety which is what should be used. I was unable to fix this earlier as I was not aware of this article until a link to it was added to the pertinent WP articles. Also the statement on beliefs (about the 3-wives) is not quite correct (which is why it was edited), and the article is not using the name of the LDS Church properly. -- 208.81.184.4 22:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I am aware that some of the changes were legitimate corrections. But you were not the only one that added to the article. It will require some sorting out. Also, any claims will have to be properly sourced. --SVTCobra 22:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * There are so many new changes and major content additions and changes that this would probably be best for a new article on the subject matter - there has certainly been enough new developments and coverage in literally thousands of mainstream news/media sources for a new article. Cirt - (talk) 22:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Certainly ... this is definitely an ongoing story. --SVTCobra 22:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you, 208.81.184.4, for summarizing your changes. It makes it easier to evaluate and restore them as appropriate. --SVTCobra 22:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually those particular points above by seem valid, though I am still against major content changes to articles after time of publish.  Cirt - (talk) 23:02, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

So what is the value of this existing article if an editor cannot fix demonstratively incorrect facts (such Warren Jeffs founding the FLDS church). Major publications print retractions & corrections; here at wikinew if you freeze an article, does that get appended to the bottom of the article? I'm afraid I'm not sure how that works here, and would like to know where to go to learn more from the applicable guidelines. -- 208.81.184.4 23:03, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that since it has been 3 days since this article was published, a note or correction at the bottom of the article would be the best way to go - Either that or a note/correction in a follow-up article (I could write the follow-up article in a few hours). Cirt - (talk) 23:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * We do issue corrections (see Iranian-American woman in space) and retractions (see Chinese submarine "embarrasses" U.S. Navy). --SVTCobra 23:41, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay thanks for those examples. Btw your recent changes look fine.  Cirt - (talk) 00:19, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, it was more intended for 208.81.184.4, but if you also find the examples useful, then all-the-better. --SVTCobra 00:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


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Wikinews interviews Brooks Lindsay, founder of Debatepedia

April 8, 2008

A reporter from Wikinews recently interviewed Brooks Lindsay, who is the founder of the online wiki Debatepedia, which claims to be the 'Wikipedia of Debates.'

Brooks told Wikinews that "Debatepedia is a non-profit, free wiki encyclopedia of debates, pro and con arguments, and supporting evidence and quotes from scholars, experts, and op-ed writers (those figures that are actively engaged in these public debates)." He continued with "some people have called it the 'Wikipedia of debate', which is a pretty accurate description of what we are trying to do."

He finished by stating that the site is "trying to cover all of the pro and con arguments in any public debate, on any topic from a global to a local level, from any region in the world, and hopefully, in the future, in any language. The objective is to frame debates in a pro/con structure - when they appropriately belong in a pro/con structure - so that people can effectively "weigh" the "sides" in a debate, deliberate, draw conclusions, and take a stand. "

The second question asked why he founded Debatepedia. He replied by saying that "With arguments, evidence, and quotes being scattered across the Internet, it is currently too difficult for citizens to view all the pros and cons, quotes, and supporting evidence in debates, deliberate and take a stand. We are trying to fill this void, on a global scale, and by open-sourcing the effort over MediaWiki software."

When asked how Debatepedia will develop in the future Brooks said that he expects "the community of editors to grow to a much greater extent." He also said that he hoped to be able to "clean up some of the software elements," of the site.

When questioned about the importance of Debatepedia, Mr. Lindsay said that "Debatepedia is important for the reader and citizen as a tool to deliberate more effectively, develop greater conviction in what is righteous and what is not, and to generally increase citizen-engagement in debates, issues, and advocacy, across the world. For the writer, it is a way to have a greater voice and impact on other people, and other people's thinking; it's a great public service to help edit on Debatepedia, like on Wikipedia. Finally, there is the potential that Debatepedia will be used by leaders and representatives as a way to deliberate through a topic that they have to vote on, or as a destination to direct constituents to deliberate." He said it was "perhaps a lofty goal, but real nevertheless."


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OR Notes
Carried out by email. I could post a transcript here but that is easily faked. I will, however, happily sed you a transcript via email if you ask for it. Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 07:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Image
Can't we make a screenshop of debatepedia? I can't do it myself now, since I am at work. --SVTCobra 13:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I oppose using fair use(debatepedia) is copyrighted although I am negotiating for a free image of Brooks LindsayAnonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 16:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I have just received an image from Brooks, I am awaiting confirmation of which free license he would like to use. Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 16:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * As you can see, the image has been added to the article. Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 16:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Even better than a screenshot of the website ...  good work. --SVTCobra 17:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

license
What's their license? CC? GFDL? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.252.197.157 (talk) 20:19, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Debatepedia are copyrighted.Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 06:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


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Comments:Wikinews interviews Brooks Lindsay, founder of Debatepedia

Where's the website? The one that Google lists is blacklisted?

 * Are you saying that wiki.idebate.org/ is blacklisted in Germany? So much for free speech. --SVTCobra 14:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Seriously? A country in wetern Europe is censoring a pro free speech site.Anonymous101 (talk · contribs) (Note I have no link with the organization anonymous) 17:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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