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User talk:CowardX10~enwikinews

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Efficient wins Melbourne Cup

November 6, 2007 The racehorse Efficient has won the 2007 Melbourne Cup.

Flemington Racecourse in Melbourne, Australia was abuzz today as the Melbourne Cup was raced for the 147th time. The New Zealand horse Efficient finishing the 3200m race in a time of 3:23.24. The horse, which had won the 2006 Victorian Derby, became the first horse since Phar Lap (also a New Zealand horse) to come back and win the Melbourne Cup a year later.

The race ended with a stunning finish as Efficient and his jockey Michael Rodd came from behind to overtake Purple Moon in the final stretch. The odds on Efficient were 24-1 to win and A$7.40 for a place. Purple Moon finished second and Mahler finished third.

120,000 spectators looked on as Mahler took the lead at 1600m and fell back to third in the closing stages. Early leader Tungsten Strike finished 21st (last).

The win is the third of its kind for owner Lloyd Williams with two previous victories in the 1980s. Williams had two horses in the race, Zipping and Efficient, but Zipping fell to fourth place while Efficient surged forward.

Lloyd Williams' son Nick was at the raceground and was aiming high for Efficient.

"People keep telling me the last horse to do what he has done was Phar Lap," he said.

Efficient was a favourite for the 2006 Melbourne Cup but was scratched at the last minute.

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Australian soldier dies in East Timor barracks

November 6, 2007

An Australian soldier has been found dead with a gunshot wound in a barracks area in Dili in East Timor.

The soldier, working with the International Stabilisation Force in the turbulent country was found dead on the afternoon of November 5. The exact details of his death are still unknown but Air Chief Angus Houston said an inquiry will be launched as part of the investigation.

"The soldier's next of kin have been informed and our priority is to ensure the family is receiving the support and care they need," Houston said.

About 850 Australian Defence Force soldiers have been deployed to East Timor as part of the International Stabilisation Force (ISF), the military component of United Nations Integrated Mission in Timor-Leste. The country was recognised as independent from Indonesia in 2002.

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Comments:Iranian President Ahmadinejad speaks at Columbia University

I believe that the person who made the comment about being in Hell is not an Iranian and has never lived in Iran. I am British (I was born in England and I am not Muslim). I have visited Iran and the people there are VERY polite, well-mannered and generous. I think the manner in which President Ahmadinejad was treated during the introduction to his speech is dispicable: an absolute disgrace. I am glad that there is a brave man in the world who is willing to speak against the true terrorists of the world - the government and high-powered business men (not the public) of the United States of America. The lack of morality in the culture of England and America is an advertisement to the world of the filth that is allowed to exist in a 'christian' society (I am not a Christian).

(End of my opinion) -217.42.157.65 15:07, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

He is the best president in the world!!

i am from hell
i am from iran.i am 21.we havent a good president.we havent any free life.we have bad life.we cant speak.we cant see.we cant .....  we havent any good goverment.please help us.......please help us......i am living in tehran. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.132.198.8 (talk) 19:47, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Ahmadinejad at Columbia
Bravo Mahmoud may the Lord continue to bless Iran, with blessings of the deep, blessings of treasures hidden in the sand. Wayne Niulrana, Ulukhaktok, NT, Canada, the arctic inuvialuit oil and gas region.

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Colbert officially withdraws Presidential bid; Obama supporters pressured South Carolina

November 6, 2007 Two prominent South Carolina supporters of Barack Obama pressured the state Democratic council to keep Stephen Colbert off the primary ballot. The Council voted 13-3 last week against Colbert's placement on the ballot.

According to an anonymous member of the council who felt pressured, one of those people was State Superintendent of Education Inez Tenenbaum, who admitted she had made the calls. "I think lobbying was too strong a word," she said in an interview with CNN. "I called them to see what they were thinking, and if they had made up their mind. I am a volunteer in that campaign, and so I am not a staffer. And I thought it could have taken votes away from a lot of people."

Another Obama supporter, state Representative Bakari Sellers, also admitted to making the calls. "I placed the calls as a concerned Democrat, realizing that we are a country in despair," Sellers told CNN. "It is not a time for games or to make a mockery of the process."

Yesterday Colbert officially withdrew from the race. “I am shocked and saddened by the South Carolina Democratic Executive Council’s 13-to-3 vote to keep me off their presidential primary ballot,” he said in the statement. “Although I lost by the slimmest margin in presidential election history — only 10 votes — I have chosen not to put the country through another agonizing Supreme Court battle. It is time for this nation to heal.”

According to Tenenbaum, the reason she did not want Colbert on the ballot was financial and not political. For every name the Democrats put on the ballot in South Carolina, they have to pay US$20,000 to the state election commission.

The Obama campaign denied any connection to the phone calls.

In related news, at a book signing at Borders Book Store in New York City last night, a protester posing as a member of the press disrupted the event, demanding Colbert make statements about 7 World Trade Center. Despite preliminary findings by the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the National Institute of Standards and Technology that fire caused them, some conspiracy theorists believe the dramatic building collapses on September 11, including that of building seven, were the result of controlled demolition. NIST has "found no evidence of a blast or controlled demolition event", though in its final report on building 7, they would "like to determine the magnitude of hypothetical blast scenarios that could have led to the structural failure of one or more critical elements."

"What about World Trade Center Number 7, Stephen?" shouted the protester. "What are you going to say about that? Why don't you give us a witty remark and make a joke about it?  Keep smirking, Stephen!" The protester was removed by the book store's security.


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Comments:Colbert officially withdraws Presidential bid; Obama supporters pressured South Carolina

Forced
Who does Obama think he is? Or anyone? Colbert has just as much a right to run as anyone else. I would sue if I were him. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 15:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Sue under what basis? Colbert's run was clearly not in good faith. A court isn't going to look very kindly on that. IANAL, but as I understand he to a) decide who to sue(not clear in this situation) and b) show beyond a preponderance of the evidence that but for their pressure he would have a significant chance at winning (that's not the  precise legal language but I think it is close). That's not at all easy to do in this situation. And what would his damages be? He can't argue lost money due to lack of opportunity to continue using the joke(because that just flies in the face of the whole good faith issue) and he can't argue that he would have had a substantial chance of winning. JoshuaZ 16:13, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * There's really no case. People have every right to make arguments for not including someone on a ballot, and a party has a right to say they can't be on the ballot if they don't meet pre-determined criteria that doesn't run afoul of federal law or state law.  It's just...lame on the part of those Obama supporters.  --David Shankbone 16:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

 * It is not like he actually had a chance to be president anyway. And it is not like he was serious about wanting to be president. He was doing it to promote his book. Contralya 19:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Colbert had a Doritos coverage
Colbert had a Doritos presidential campaign coverage, that was a source of capital for him as a host, which he could then transfer to his campaign and therefore pay the 20 000 fee. So there's no "According to Tenenbaum, the reason she did not want Colbert on the ballot was financial and not political. For every name the Democrats put on the ballot in South Carolina, they have to pay US$20,000 to the state election commission." according to what I understand from the "Doritos Coverag" deal.

9/11 Truthers
Man they are annoying. That's a stupid question, like Colbert's supposed to know that off the top of his head, heck, does Colbert even pay attention it? I mean I think he would know since he's comedian and works in NY but still, stupid question and stupid people. Stuff blew up, who cares, people died. You can't solve a conspiracy you created. It's JFK all over again. --TUFKAAP 19:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

 * He is a comedian. And the "9/11 truthers" are mentally retarded. Contralya 19:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Anything to get press. I think we are the only ones who gave it to them, though.  Maybe they should have gone to the Rosie O'Donnell signing (today) instead.  Probably far more of a reaction if they interrupted her.  --David Shankbone 21:58, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * But she is one of them, they don't need to convince her. Contralya 22:35, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know if their goal is to go, shout and convince as much as it is to raise attention to their views. --David Shankbone 22:52, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I can somewhat understand where they are coming from. Somewhat. From their perspective some organization (likely the federal government) was involved in the demolition of at least 7 WTC and likely the main buildings. Now if you believe that, you also likely believe that this dastardly conspiracy is constantly trying to silence your views and that the mainstream media (i.e. Colbert) is part of that silencing. Understandably then, you'd get upset and use every opportunity to try to let the American people know the truth. JoshuaZ 23:06, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Sort of....but is Colbert's fake news show on Comedy Central really the mainstream media? The New York Times holds a series of talks with mainstream media figures, et. al., and that would seem a more practical and logical target.  --David Shankbone 23:31, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I could see someone seeing Colbert as mainstream media. He has a very popular show and regularly has actual senators, congressmen and other people (Jimbo Wales, Michael Oren, etc.) on for his talk segment. He and the Daily Show function as primary news sources for a disturbingly large number of young people. In all those respects he is functioning as part of the mainstream media (I suppose one could turn this around and just use it as an argument that the notion of an MSM isn't well-defined). [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ 23:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Eh

 * It may hurt Obama, but not drastically. Everyone who was gonna vote for Colbert will probably not vote Obama because of this. Rogutaan 03:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Colbert officially withdraws Presidential bid; Obama supporters pressured South Carolina

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David Shankbone attended the November 5 book signing as a member of the press when the protester disrupted the event. --David Shankbone 15:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

New York Times reference
The New York Times URL appears to be wrong, and I can't find the referenced article on nytimes.com. There is this but is clearly not the same thing. JoshuaZ 16:00, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Fixed. --David Shankbone 16:02, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Who cares?
Who cares about that hippie protester? That doesn't have anything to do with the story, okay in happened, but not only didn't Colbert react but it's not even linked to the news in question
 * I guess the answer to "who cares" is you don't care, but other people do since we've had some discussion about it. --David Shankbone 14:37, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


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Iraqi troops uncover mass grave

November 6, 2007 The bodies of 22 people have been found in a mass grave according to the United States military in Iraq, in the Lake Thar Thar region of Baghdad.

The bodies, discovered by Iraqi troops working with U.S. coalition forces on Saturday, were found during an operation known as Operation Fahwat al Asad 2. Military personnel were searching for insurgents from both the ground and air, when the bodies were discovered.

The bodies have not yet been identified. Reports quote an estimate that the bodies may be three months old, and suggest that there is a possibility that the grave may be the same grave that was found in October, which contained 25 bodies.

"The Iraqi army and provincial security forces are investigating the mass grave to determine the identities of the deceased and the causes of death for notification of their families," said a statement issued by the U.S. military.

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US Air Force suspends most F-15 operations following crash

November 6, 2007 The United States Air Force suspended non-mission critical F-15 flight operations on Nov. 3 following the crash of a Missouri Air National Guard F-15C aircraft Nov. 2. The F-15 will continue to fly in some emergency situations and a few others according to Air Force spokesperson John Elolf.

The crash was 125 miles south of St. Louis on private property surrounded by the Mark Twain National Forest in Dent County, Missouri during dogfight training by four 131st Fighter Wing craft. The pilot ejected and suffered minor injuries.

The cause of that accident is still under investigation, however, preliminary findings indicate that a possible structural failure of the aircraft may have occurred. The suspension of flight operations is a precautionary measure.

The Air Force has stated that it will ensure that mission requirements will be met for worldwide operations normally accomplished by the F-15. Currently, F-15s operate out of bases in the continental United States, Alaska, England, Hawaii, Japan and the Middle East.

The F-15 Eagle is an all-weather tactical fighter designed to permit the Air Force to gain and maintain air supremacy over the battlefield. There are more than 700 F-15s in the Air Force inventory. The F-15 reached initial operational capability for the Air Force in September 1975.

The F-15C, D and E models were deployed to the Persian Gulf in 1991 in support of Operation Desert Storm where they proved their superior combat capability. F-15C fighters accounted for 34 of the 37 Air Force air-to-air victories. The F-15E's were operated mainly at night, hunting SCUD missile launchers and artillery sites using the LANTIRN system.

They have since been deployed for air expeditionary force deployments and Operations Southern Watch (the no-fly zone in Southern Iraq), Provide Comfort in Turkey, Allied Force in Bosnia, Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan and Iraqi Freedom in Iraq.

The Air Force is replacing its aging F-15 fighters with the F-22 Raptor. The F-22 is an advanced stealth fighter aircraft combining stealth for in both air-to-air and air-to-ground missions. However, budgetary concerns have caused the Air Force to reduce their total order of F-22s.


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Talk:US Air Force suspends most F-15 operations following crash

Do we have a template to note that parts of this article were based on the USAF press release? JoshuaZ 16:28, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think there is a generic one that says it is based on a source with a license that is compatible with Wikinews. --SVTCobra 19:40, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The source is credited, and that's optional because it is US Gov public domain. (SEWilco 19:58, 6 November 2007 (UTC))
 * I added the Template:BasedOn which lets readers know the copyright status of works by the US government. Is that what you were looking for JoshuaZ? --SVTCobra 20:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

budget
It should be noted in the article, that the budget problem isn't that they don't have enough money, it is that the particular aircraft is very expensive. They are getting more than a thousand F-35 Lightning II. Contralya 01:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

sounds like advertising
Especially: "where they proved their superior combat capability." Sure, against old Russian MIGs in a second world country that's rather easy to prove.


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Talk:Caribou plays the Bowery Ballroom

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Interview conducted October 12, 2007 at the Bowery Ballroom. --David Shankbone 16:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

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Mukasey nomination as attorney general moves to US Senate

November 6, 2007 The nomination of Judge Michael Mukasey as the next Attorney General of the United States, passed the Senate Judiciary Committee today and will move to a vote before the entire United States Senate. Two Democrats joined the nine Republicans to yield an 11-8 vote. Observers believe that Mukasey will easily succeed in the Senate vote.

The nomination of Mukasey by George W. Bush had originally drawn broad support. Nonetheless, Mukasey triggered a political row, during pre-confirmation questioning, when he refused to state that waterboarding amounted to illegal torture. In the end, he was able secure the votes of the two Democrats after assuring them that, if Congress passed legislation that made waterboarding illegal, he would in fact work to enforce such a law.

Patrick Leahy, Senator from Vermont, who opposed Mukasey said: "Some have sought to find comfort in Judge Mukasey’s personal assurance that he would enforce a future, a new law against waterboarding if this Congress were to pass one. Unsaid, of course, is the fact that any such prohibition would have to be enacted over the veto of the president."

"Now, I wish I could support Judge Mukasey’s nomination," Senator Leahy further said. "I like Michael Mukasey. We have many things in common in our past careers. I certainly don’t question his intellectual ability or his independence."

The two Democrats that voted for Mukasey were Senator Chuck Schumer of New York and Senator Dianne Feinstein of California. Schumer has been reported as suggesting Mukasey as Attorney General to White House during the search for a nominee.

Schumer defended his vote, saying: "If six months from now ... the same policies continued, the victory in defeating Mukasey would seem hollow. No one questions that Judge Mukasey would do much to remove the stench of politics from the Justice Department. I believe we should give him that chance."

Feinstein said that her vote for Mukasey was because, otherwise, Bush could have an acting Attorney General, who would not need confirmation, until the end of his term. In explaing this, she said: "I don't believe a leaderless department is in the best interests of the American people or of the department itself. [Bush] appointed this man because he believes he is mainstream."

Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts did not agree with Mukasey's view on waterboarding. "Waterboarding is already illegal under United States law. It's illegal under the Geneva Conventions, which prohibit outrages upon personal dignity, including cruel, humiliating and degrading treatment," he said.

White House Press Secretary Dana Perino said of the committee vote: "Judge Mukasey has clearly demonstrated that he will be an exceptional attorney general at this critical time."


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Wikinews talk:Desktop ticker

Sounds cool. (sorry can't look at the moment, but I will as soon as I have a chance). Also related is the google toolbar thingy. Bawolff -)(-: 06:36, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

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Comments:Ron Paul receives US$4 million in donations in 24 hours

Thought I would take a moment this morning and reflect on what this Nov. 5 fundraiser might mean, and what better place than my favorite cooperative mind-sharing site. If this grassroots support had been pulled off by any other "anointed" candidate, the press would have been absolutely gushing. The real story is not that Ron Paul's supporters raised $4 million in $120 donations in one day, it's that they did it in the face of a near total media blackout on their candidate. I won't try to analyze the zeitgeist; but it seems obvious that ordinary people are urgently bypassing all the checks and balances of a media-driven political process. That means real politics, real ideas, substance, the actual threat of fundamental policy course-corrections due to popular demand. What a thrilling example to set for a world that may be doubting whether our American democratic experiment really works better than authoritarianism.

 * This simply isn't accurate at multiple levels. First there hasn't been some "media blackout" of Ron Paul, he has been covered substantially. Furthermore, if there is any media problem it has nothing to do with Paul per se but rather reflects a media focus on a few highly popular candidates (and there's an important distinction between focusing and a "blackout"). Many qualified candidates in both parties are not getting much in the way of press coverage; to some extent that's inevitable when there are so many people in each field. As to the claim "ordinary people are urgently bypassing all the checks and balances of a media-driven political process" I'm not completely sure the phrase "checks and balances" means what you think it means so a restatement may be useful. In any event, everyone knows that Paul's base is driven and well organized. While that by itself may be impressive it means that successes of the campaign are hard to correlate with actual popularity. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ 13:13, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Every day I find it harder and harder to believe that he only has single-digit numbers. Also, since when has following the Constitution become 'extreme'? Fephisto 17:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


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Comments:Iraqi troops uncover mass grave

Might be the same as one found in October?
How can that be? Did they forget to make a note of where that one was? And now there are only 22 bodies left, so someone stole 3 in the meantime? --SVTCobra 21:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Iraki mass grave
And who killed them?

Iraki mass grave
And who killed them?


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Comments:University of Maine may file lawsuit against My Chemical Romance

The University of Maine has no chance, as My Chemical Romance are signed to Reprise Records/Warner Music, and we don't fancy their chances in court against that corporation.


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Six charged with the attempted assassination of Fijian coup leader

November 7, 2007 Six men were charged Monday with the attempted assassination of Commodore Frank Bainimarama, the commanding officer of the Republic of Fiji Military Forces and the interim Prime Minister of Fiji since January 5, 2007.

Police Commissioner Commodore Esala Teleni said Monday that sixteen people were being detained in connection to a plot to assassinate the Bainimarama and several Cabinet Ministers.

Bainimarama said, in a statement Monday, "There are obviously disgruntled groups out there who are feeling the full impact of the interim government's 'Clean Up Campaign', such people have the potential to go to extremes in undermining the work which the interim government has been mandated to undertake".

The men are charged with treason, inciting mutiny and conspiracy to murder. They appeared in a Suva court Tuesday. The case was adjourned for bail hearing Wednesday morning after the prosecutor requested time to amend the charges.

A New Zealand businessman, Ballu Khanwas among the men arrested. Teleni states he had "minor injuries" as a result of resisting arrest. Others have reported that he was hospitalized for a broken jaw and ribs as a result of a police beating. New Zealand's Prime Minister Helen Clark said the way Khanwas has been dealt with is "disgraceful".

Fiji news media initially reported that police suspected the plot could be linked to foreign aid groups and neighboring countries.

Clark denied that allegations stating that "of course the New Zealand government hasn't been involved in any such thing,"

Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer called the allegation absurd, stating "It is completely false to suggest that the Australian government would consider assassinating Commodore Bainimarama and coup leaders in Fiji or that we would in any way wish to see any death occur in Fiji".

Bainimarama later told journalists at a press conference that the police never suspected foreign involvement and the “report was distorted and sensationalized”.

Frank Bainimarama became prime minister in a bloodless 2006 coup, replacing the democratically elected government of Prime Minister Laisenia Qarase. Bainimarama accused the Qarase government of corruption and being too soft on those involved in the 2000 coup.


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Senate committee investigating six televangelists

November 6, 2007 United States Senator Charles Grassley of Iowa, the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, has asked for the financial records of six prominent televangelist ministries for possible financial misconduct, CBS News reported. The six groups were led by, , , , and. Half of these people (Hinn, Copeland and Dollar) are members of the Board of Regents for the Oral Roberts University, which is currently being accused of wrong-doing.


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By the way, the budgetary concerns are simply the fact that they cost a TON of money, not because of particular lack of funds. The air force has all of the money it needs, and the F-35 Lightning II is the less costly alternative. Contralya 00:45, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

F-15'S GROUNDED THE REASON IS THE LEADING EDGE WING SPARS & BULKHEADS ARE DISCREPANT & I CAN PROVE IT.

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Police officer shot dead in Canadian Arctic community

November 7, 2007 Constable Douglas Scott, 20, of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) was shot to death late Monday night while answering a call about an impaired driver. The incident took place in the community of Kimmirut in Canada's northern territory of Nunavut.

Constable Scott, who had been on the job for six months, is the second northern Canadian RCMP officer killed on duty in just under a month. On October 6, Constable Christopher Worden was shot and killed while responding to a call in Hay River, in the Northwest Territories.

Scott is survived by his parents, Doug and Marla, as well as his siblings and grandparents. His parents live near Brockville, Ontario.

RCMP Commanding Officer "V" (Nunavut) Division Marty Cheliak expressed the police force's shock and sadness at the shooting. "The death of any of our members is deeply felt, but when once again it occurs in one of our close-knit northern communities, the pain of that loss seems even greater," said Cheliak in a statement. "Our hearts also go out to the community of Kimmirut and to everyone who knew Doug."

Cheliak provided the following timeline of events:
 * "At 10:56 p.m., Cst. Scott was called to respond to a complaint of a possible impaired driver.

 * At 11:02 p.m. Cst. Scott radioed “V” (Nunavut) Division telecoms to say that he was following up on the call for service.

 * Shortly thereafter, “V” Division telecoms attempted to contact Cst. Scott, but received no response.

 * At 11:31 a second member from the detachment was advised by local residents that [the officer] had responded to a report of an impaired driver and that the driver had crashed into a residence. Upon arrival at the scene, it was found that [Constable Scott] had been shot.

 * At 11:45 p.m. “V” division’s Emergency Response Team was mobilized.

 * At 11:56 p.m. it was confirmed that the suspect had entered his own residence.

 * At 4:10 a.m. the suspect surrendered to police without incident and was taken into custody."

Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper issued a statement on the death of Scott on Tuesday. “I wish to pay tribute to Constable Doug Scott, who died tragically in the line of duty in Kimmirut, Nunavut," said Harper. "On behalf of Canadians, I extend my sincere sympathy to the family, friends and fellow colleagues of Constable Scott. We are forever grateful that young men and women like Constable Scott continue to respond to the call of duty often working under extreme circumstances, and in conditions of great danger."

The suspect in the shooting, Pingoatuk (Ping) Kolola of Kimmirut, Nunavut, has since been transported via RCMP aircraft to Iqaluit where he remains in custody. He has been charged with first degree murder.


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Talk:Police officer shot dead in Canadian Arctic community

Shouldn't it be "shot dead"? --Brian McNeil / talk 09:21, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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Illegal drug found to be used in the manufacture of toys

November 7, 2007 Bindeez beads, a children's toy from Australia and manufactured by Moose Enterprise in Hong Kong, is being pulled off toy store shelves in the United Kingdom after traces of an illegal drug, which is converted into gamma-Hydroxybutyric acid (GHB) when ingested, was found inside the toy. At least 20 million toys are affected.

So far at least three children from the U.K. and at least two from Auckland, New Zealand have fallen seriously ill and are currently receiving medical attention. The toy is also sold in the United States as Aqua Dots, with two reports received by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) of children needing hospitalization after ingesting the beads.

"We've asked all our customers to take them off the shelf while we retest everything to make sure the toys comply with all regulations," said the company in a statement, although no mandatory recall has been issued for the product. The statement also says that the plant in Hong Kong was not using a chemical mixture approved by the company.

"This substitution was not at any time approved by Moose nor was Moose made aware of any substitution by the supplier," added the statement.

The toys were supposed to contain a non-toxic chemical known as 1,5-pentanediol, but instead 1,4-butanediol, which is mainly used in creating the illegal drug GHB, was used in the toys. When humans consume 1,4-butanediol, the body converts it into GHB and could make the individual seriously ill, causing headaches, seizures, dizziness and in some cases death. GHB is a natural chemical found in a variety of things such as beef, wine and some varieties of citrus fruits. It is also used as a pharmaceutical which is sold as Xyrem.

Recent animal research indicates that drugs are available for human use which may work as antidotes to the poison, either by hindering its conversion to GHB with 4-methylpyrazole (fomepizole, Antizol) or by blocking GHB's effectiveness at the receptor (SCH 50911). Rodent testing has found the lethal dose of 1,4-butanediol to range from 1.4 to 2.5 grams per kilogram body weight, but an antidote can increase the lethal dose by a factor of 10.

It is not known how the chemicals got mixed up, but officials for the toy company say that they are continuing the investigation. The toy is currently banned in all of Australia, but the company says all those who bought it will be refunded their money.

"The issue of how a dangerous substance was used in these beads and not the non-toxic substance ... that is going to take us a few more days to uncover," said Australia's Fair Trade Minister, Linda Burney in a statement to the press.

The toy was recently named Australia's number one toy for 2007.


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Seharusnya pemerintah Indonesia berusaha lebih baik lagi mengatasi kecelakaan lalu lintas baik udara, darat, dan laut. Pemerintah Indonesia juga harus bertindak tegas terhadap pelanggaran yang dilakukan oleh maskapai penerbangan.


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That image seems to a bit more than a logo. --SVTCobra 12:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Not this one IMO...because all that it shows really, in readable format is the company's logo... DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

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2007 Baseball World Cup Day 1: Taichung starts prior to Taipei

November 8, 2007

The opening ceremonies for the 2007 Baseball World Cup (2007 BWC) were held Tuesday. Torrential rain, however, made Panama vs Spain the opening match of the 2007 BWC in Taichung Intercontinental Baseball Stadium. The original opening match of Chinese Taipei vs Italy was postponed until next week and will be played at Tianmu Baseball Stadium.

"Recently, we got into a sticky situation while constructing a dome due to some protests by non-governmental people, but we'll try to overcome these difficulties in order to present high-level sports to the international market." Chin-chi Wu, the Director of the Taipei City Bureau of Education, remarked at Tuesday's opening ceremony.

Spain vs Panama
The opening match of the 2007 BWC was played in Taichung after a bad weather Wednesday at Tianmu, Taipei City. The Spanish team became contenders after winning 3rd place at the 2007 European Baseball Tournament. Several of their players hail from Venezuela.

With a single and one RBI by Angel Chavez, and the first HR of 2007 BWC yielding 3 RBIs by Joel Vega, the Panamanian team transformed this match from one of pitching to batting. In the end, Panama beat Spain 5-0. Even though Spain lost this match, their strengths were witnessed by lots of spectators.

Australia vs Cuba
This match was delayed a few hours due to uncertain weather in Taipei. The two teams also played each other in the finals of the 2004 Summer Olympics. Today, the two teams battled in an intense pitching duel.

At the bottom of 9th inning, Frederich Cepeda hit a solo HR and pushed this game into extra innings. Cuba's pitcher Pedro Lazo Iglesias saved his team at the top of 10th inning when the Aussies looked posed to score. Cuba beat Australia 3-2. Osmanis Urrutia's HR at the bottom of 10th inning was the winning run.

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 * Thailand 0-16A Netherlands
 * Venezuela 0-8 Germany

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 * South Korea 5-0 Canada
 * United States 3-0 Mexico
 * Japan 11-1 South Africa

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 * Panama vs United States
 * Mexico vs Japan
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These news should be spread all over the world as soon as possible, particularly as international tv news. I haven't seen them yet on tv at this time. Jaime Saldarriaga.

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Number one toy in 2007, RIGHT.

toy safety
I remember when the biggest concern about toys was kids choking on them! Now it is discovered that many toys use led paint and other things... What is next? Contralya 20:52, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If you go back 10-15 years nobody really cared about lead paint. Simple thing is you don't give painted toy soldiers to kids who're so young they'll stick it in their mouth. This is what... beads? What's wrong with plastic - when sproglet has to pass it out the other end they'll learn why it says "Do not eat" on the packet.
 * To give a contrary opinion, people are dumb and will poison themselves with things like this. My partner had just been shopping in Body Shop and had a bag full of bath pearls (they're filled with oil). She tried offering them to people as confectionery and 90% of the time had to shout at them as they opened their mouth to put in a greasy treat. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:42, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


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Deadly shooting at high school in Finland

November 7, 2007

Eight people have been killed in a school shooting in Jokela, Finland according to an official police briefing. The victims are five male students and two female students and the principal of the Jokela High School. At least 12 people were injured from glass and other injuries during evacuation, but are not in serious danger. Besides the eight that perished, only one other person has been reported to have received a gunshot wound, but is also reported to be out of serious danger.

At a news conference at 18:00 EET (UTC+2), police said that they arrested the shooter after a siege situation at the Jokela School Centre. The shooter is said to be an 18-year-old male student, named as Pekka-Eric Auvinen, who attended the school.

The police say that the shooter had probably shot himself at some point in an apparent suicide attempt. He died at nearby Töölö Hospital at 22:14 EET. The police confirmed that they had not used weapons during the incident.

Apparently, the killer had uploaded a home-made movie to YouTube announcing the "massacre" one day prior to the shooting. His profile featured several movies regarding an ongoing depression and unsuccessful treatment with SSRIs. Additionally, some movies of him shooting his new gun had been uploaded weeks prior to the shooting. Several hours after the event, YouTube decided to suspend his account due to terms of use violation.

Auvinen also had a personal website which featured images, music and documents, including a manifesto. The site has since been removed by the service provider. In the manifesto, he called for a war on the "weak-minded masses" and said he was willing to die for his cause. "I cannot say that I am of the same race as this miserable, arrogant and selfish human race. No! I have evolved a step higher," he wrote.

Prayer vigils are being held at churches around Finland. The Ministry of the Interior has said that flags should be flown at half-mast from 8 o'clock in the morning until sundown on Thursday.

The Jokela School Centre has 460 students between the ages 12 and 18. Jokela is in the Tuusula municipality and is located just north of Helsinki.


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 * Not my fault you can't read anything else but english. My information is sourced and the sources are provided in the edit history. Trutst me, I know a lot more than you do. --88.112.23.15 14:51, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, we can't just go on trust. I found a source for three dead. In the future, use the collaboration page instead of just changing the article if you have info but you are unsure of how to list the source. --SVTCobra 15:02, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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Macedonian police kill four militants in mountain operation

November 7, 2007

At least four members of an armed criminal group have been killed and six arrested in a police action dubbed "Mountain Storm," Macedonian Interior Ministry spokesman Ivo Kotevski told the MIA state news agency. He said no police officers were injured and confirmed special forces were still in the area.

Locals from the village of Brodec, a Šar Mountain village north of Tetovo, have confirmed a shootout between police and armed groups in the village. A spokesman for NATO peacekeepers in neighbouring Kosovo told a news conference a helicopter had crashed but there was no information on casualties. Macedonian police denied that report. "There is no helicopter down on the Macedonian side," spokesman Ivo Kotevski told Reuters.

Local media reported that police are searching for Lirim Jakupi (also known as "Nazi"), a convicted criminal who escaped with seven other men in a violent break-out from Kosovo`s Dubrava Prison in August and is believed to be hiding in the area. Last week Xhavid Morina, another escaped convict from Dubrava Prison, was found dead near Odri, a village close to Tetovo. Also, in October, a Macedonian policeman was killed in an ambush near the border with Kosovo and Croatian TV aired a video showing Albanian militants threatening actions in Kosovo.

Several media reported that KFOR has closed the border towards Macedonia, in the part of Kosovo, due to the police operation at Šar Mountain. KFOR troops are heavily armed and ready to shoot in case of "conflict spillover at Kosovo territory," media report.

The operation was announced over at 14:00 local time.

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Typo in title
Let me point out that title has an grammar error - shoothing while it should be shooting... Tarmo Tanilsoo 14:58, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Now they say the death toll is seven (link), 88.148.192.117 15:16, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - both have been fixed/updated. --SVTCobra 15:21, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

ATTACK INFORMATION
Event: Jokela High School Massacre. Targets: Jokelan Lukio (High School Of Jokela), students and faculty, society, humanity, human race. Date: 11/7/2007. Attack Type: Mass murder, political terrorism (altough I choosed the school as target, my motives for the attack are political and much much deeper and therefore I don’t want this to be called only as “school shooting”). Location: Jokela, Tuusula, Finland. Perpetrator’s name: Pekka-Eric Auvinen (aka NaturalSelector89, Natural Selector, Sturmgeist89 and Sturmgeist). I also use pseydonym Eric von Auffoin internationally. Weapons: Semi-automatic .22 Sig Sauer Mosquito pistol.

What do I hate / What I don’t like?
Equality, tolerance, human rights, political correctness, hypocrisy, ignorance, enslaving religions and ideologies, antidepressants, TV soap operas & drama shows, rap -music, mass media, censorship, political populists, religious fanatics, moral majority, totalitarianism, consumerism, democracy, pacifism, state mafia, alcholohics, TV commercials, human race. What do I love / what do I like? Existentialism, self-awareness, freedom, justice, truth, moral & political philosophy, personal & social psychology, evolution science, political incorrectness, guns, shooting, BDSM, computers, internet, aggressive electronic and industrial rock & metal music, violent movies,, FPS –computer games, sarcasm, irony, black humour, macabre artm mass & serial killer cases, natural disasters, eugenics

Natural Selector’s Manifesto
How Did Natural Selection Turn Into Idiocratic Selection?'''

Today the process of natural selection is totally misguided. It has reversed. Human race has been devolving very long time for now. Retarded and stupid, weak-minded people are reproducing more and faster than the intelligent, strong-minded people. Laws protect the retarded majority which selects the leaders of society. Modern human race has not only betrayed its ancestors, but the future generations too. Homo Sapiens, HAH! It is more like a Homo Idioticus to me! When I look at people I see every day in society, school and everywhere... I can’t say I belong to same race as the lousy, miserable, arrogant, selfish human race! No! I have evolved one step above!

Naturality has been discriminated through religions, ideologies, laws and other mass delusion systems. Individual, who is going through his/hers natural power process and trying to live naturally, but is being told that the way he acts or thinks is wrong and stupid, will usually have some reactions which might be considered as "psychological disorders" by the establishment. In reality they are just natural reactions to the disruption of natural power process. They will have some of the following (depending on individual's personality): feelings of inferiority / superiority, hostility, aggression, frustration, depression, self-hatred / hatred towards other people, suicidal / homicidal thought etc... and it is completely normal.

Humans are just a species among other animals and world does not exist only for humans. Death and killing is not a tragedy, it happens in nature all the time between all species. Not all human lives are important or worth saving. Only superior (intelligent, self-aware, strong-minded) individuals should survive while inferior (stupid, retarded, weak-minded masses) should perish.

There is also another solution to the problem: stupid people as slaves and intelligent people as free. What I mean is that they who have free minds, are capable of intelligent existential and philosophical thinking and know what justice is, should be free and rulers... and the robotic masses, they can be slaves since they do not mind it now either and because their minds are on so retarded level. The gangsters that now rule societies, would of course get what they deserve.

Of course there is a final solution too: death of entire human race. It would solve every problem of humanity. The faster human race is wiped out from this planet, the better... no one should be left alive. I have no mercy for the scum of earth, the pathetic human race.

Collective Deindividualization: Totalitarianism & Delusions Of Democracy
Collective deindividualization is a phenomenon where individual will be trained as part of the mindless herd controlled by state, corporation, church or some other organization, group, ideology, religion or mass delusion system and adopt it's rules, morality and codes of conduct. This phenomenon has been familiar in all despotic, authoritarian, totalitarian, monarchist, communist, socialist, nazi, fascist and religious societies troughout history. Also, the modern western democratic republics have the same phenomenon. It is just done so that people will think they are free and don't realize they are being enslaved. Majority of people in society are weak-minded and ignorant retards, masses that act like programmed robots and accept voluntarily slavery. But not me! I am self-aware and realize what is going on in society! I have a free mind! And I choose to be free rather than live like a robot or slave. You can say I have a “god complex”, sure... then you have a “group complex”! Compared to you retarded masses, I am actually godlike.

Totalitarian governments rule people through education system, consumerism, mass media, monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force (police, military) and laws discriminating people who think differently than the majority. Democracy... you think democracy means freedom and justice? You are wrong. Democracy is a dictatorship of the moral majority... and the majority is manipulated and ruled by the state mafia. Modern western democracy has nothing to do with freedom or justice; it is totalitarian and corrupted system. Laws are made over the heads of the people and people are being brainwashed to support the system and connected to the institutional structures immediately after their birth. Societies are being ruled by manipulative and charismatic politicians who only care about the interests of majority, and who do not base their decisions on reason but emotions and feelings of the masses. These masses let the authorities of state to make all the important decisions for them. The masses will get an education, they study, get a job, go to work and vote in elections. They think they are free and don’t criticise or question the system. They have become robots. It is like a constructed mechanism in mind, that leaves little choice for an individual to think, talk and act independently.

Three Kinds Of Humans

There are three kinds of human personality types in this world: 1)	individualistic human (3% of the world population) 2)	manipulative human (3% of the world population) 3)	mass human (94% of the world population)

 * 1) 1 & #2 type of personalities are intelligent, creative and self-aware. They have chosen bit different paths paths. #3 type of personalities are less intelligent and less creative, weak-minded people controlled by #2 type of personalities. The percentages are only estimations though but are based on Gaussian distribution and history of human race and how humans have organized into societies. And this is the way it has always been ever since humans started to organize into communities.

Another way how to divide people is bit different but is based on the same facts, human nature and history. The division is based on the level of intelligence and quality of mentality: 1)	intelligent (3% of the world population) 2)	slightly retarded, so called “normal people” or “robots” (94% of the world population) 3)	highly retarded, “vegetables” (3% of the world population)

Total War Against Humanity

Hate, Im so full of it and I love it. That is one thing I really love. Some time ago, I used to believe in humanity and I wanted to live a long and happy life... but then I woke up. I started to think deeper and realized things. But it was not easy to become existential... knowing as much as I know has made me unhappy, frustrated and angry. I just can’t be happy in the society or the reality I live. Due to long process of existential thinking, observing the society I live and some other things happened in my life... I have come to the point where I feel nothing but hate against humanity and human race.

Life is just a meaningless coincidence... result of long process of evolution and many several factors, causes and effects. However, life is also something that an individual wants and determines it to be. And I'm the dictator and god of my own life. And me, I have chosen my way. I am prepared to fight and die for my cause. I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit, disgraces of human race and failures of natural selection.

You might ask yourselves, why did I do this and what do I want. Well, most of you are too arrogant and closed-minded to understand... You will proprably say me that I am “insane”, “crazy”, “psychopath”, “criminal” or crap like that. No, the truth is that I am just an animl, a human, an individual, a dissident.

I have had enough. I don’t want to be part of this fucked up society. Like some other wise people have said in the past, human race is not worth fighting for or saving... only worth killing. But... When my enemies will run and hide in fear when mentioning my name... When the gangsters of the corrupted governments have been shot in the streets... When the rule of idioracy and the democratic system has been replaced with justice... When intelligent people are finally free and rule the society instead of the idiocratic rule of majority... In that great day of deliverance, you will know what I want.

Long live the revolution... revolution against the system, which enslaves not only the majority of weak-minded masses but also the small minority of strong-minded and intelligent individuals! If we want to live in a different world, we must act. We must rise against the enslaving, corrupted and totalitarian regimes and overthrow the tyrants, gangsters and the rule of idiocracy. I can’t alone change much but hopefully my actions will inspire all the intelligent people of the world and start some sort of revolution against the current systems. The system discriminating naturality and justice, is my enemy. The people living in the world of delusion and supporting this system are my enemies.

I am ready to die for a cause I know is right, just and true... even if I would lose or the battle would be only remembered as evil... I will rather fight and die than live a long and unhappy life.

And remember that this is my war, my ideas and my plans. Don’t blame anyone else for my actions than myself. Don’t blame my parents or my friends. I told nobody about my plans and I always kept them inside my mind only. Don’t blame the movies I see, the music I hear, the games I play or the books I read. No, they had nothing to do with this. This is my war: one man war against humanity, governments and weak-minded masses of the world! No mercy for the scum of the earth! HUMANITY IS OVERRATED! It's time to put NATURAL SELECTION & SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST back on tracks!

Justice renders to everyone his due.

- Pekka-Eric Auvinen (aka NaturalSelector89, Natural Selector, Sturmgeist89 and Sturmgeist). I also use pseydonym Eric von Auffoin internationally.

External links section
I am not sure about the usefulness or appropriateness of the external links. Anyone else have some thought on it? --SVTCobra 23:03, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Given that the attacker probably did this for publicity, the removal of external links isn't too bad idea at all Tarmo Tanilsoo 07:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Some observations on mourning at Finnish television channels
I have access to two Finnish Television channels, MTV3 and Nelonen and MTV3 ended their this morning's morning program with hosts standing and telling that today is mourning day, after that the studio lights were faded out, the camera zoomed on the monitor and mourning music started to play on the credits while pictures from the school was shown at the background. Same happened yesterday evening on broadcast 45 Minutes - broadcast ended with mourning music. Tarmo Tanilsoo 07:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


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Comments:Police officer shot dead in Canadian Arctic community

Could those two similar deaths in a rather short time be somehow related eachother?


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User talk:Jan Friberg

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Comments:Deadly shooting at high school in Finland

This kind of crime is typical of mentally ill people, apparently caused by deep depression. How to act preventively against this kind of event happening again?. Perhaps the psychologist of the school should have the first word in this respect. Jaime Saldarriaga 15:23, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I think I have that t-shirt. Contralya 17:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If I were you I'd get rid of it.

Sad story
School shootings like this are very upsetting to hear about. What a senseless act. Excellent coverage on this story, though. Very well done. Jcart1534 17:40, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

The primary cause
The primary reason people ever do school shootouts, is because they get bullied all of the time and no-one is willing to help them. Contralya 20:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No, the primary cause is because they're mentally unbalanced and think doing this will solve their problems.--72.130.143.25 23:10, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * And that, it does, at least in the shooter's mind. Thinking along these lines though will do nothing to prevent these types of incidents. You can call everyone whackos if you want, this won't stop this trend. Contralya's comment is more thoughtful in my opinion. —67.173.131.28 23:39, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

this was planned

 * I have seen documentaries on it. Seen interviews with friends of school shooters, how they get beaten up and abused and no-one helps them. And more often than not, when they realize that the cops have them cornered and start feeling guilt, school shooters shoot themselves after they do their deeds. Contralya 03:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I think that events like this should be handled on case-by-case basis. Although, I wouldn't be too surprised if someone was pushed to killing by bullies. Tarmo Tanilsoo 07:41, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

 * While I agree that it is usualy the case that the perpetrator is someone who was psychologically abused and snapped (Virginia Tech, for example - I suspect the perpetrator, had he been captured alive, would have been found legally insane, and detained and offered assistence from America's equivilent of the Mental Health Act). However, looking over this case, his motivation seems to be rather unusual. His mind is certainly very twisted - I can't make up my mind if he had psychological problems and didn't get the help he needed, or if he's entirely sound of mind, seen some of the evil in society, and jumped to entirely the wrong conclusions about it and what course of action to take. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Depression is one of the most currently problem caused by total isolation of the peoples in his life. Peoples don't ask and speak with others about his problems. There are each much more busy and then they loss the time to sleep or to travel to made it work. The time when not good administrated will completly loss and there could be one consequence. Also we forguet that we need to stay with the persons that we love, to tell and ask about some things to made us life better. This will be one of the first condition to live better.


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Three Massachusetts workers dead after water pipe explosion at power plant

November 7, 2007 Three power plant workers at the Salem Harbor Power Station in Salem, Massachusetts died overnight after being severely burned when a water tube they were near burst releasing high pressure steam which burned the men on the head, face, neck and hands just before 9 a.m. EST yesterday.

According to Dominion Resources, the Richmond, Virginia energy company which bought the 1950s-era coal-firing plant, from USGen New England, a bankrupted subsidiary of Pacific Gas & Electric, the three men, two operators and a mechanic were working on the ground floor of the plant on a coal-fired generator when the boiler tube exploded twenty feet above sending high pressure steam at a temperature of 320 degrees Fahrenheit and was, according the Salem Fire Department, down towards them.

The three men, Mark Mansfield, 41, of Peabody, Phillip Robinson, 56, of Beverly and Matthew Indeglia, 20, of Lawrence were first rushed to the North Shore Medical Center in Salem before being transported to Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston where they died overnight.

"All three men passed away," said hospital spokeswoman Christina Jeffrey.

"All of Dominion is greatly saddened at the deaths of these men, They were valuable members of our Salem Harbor family. Our thoughts and prayers are with their families," announced Thomas F. Farrell II, Dominion chairman, president and chief executive officer.

The boiler involved is 50 years old and, according to plant officials, is inspected yearly. The Salem Fire Department said they have received 19 calls concerning the boiler over the past five years, which, according to the fire department, is not unusual. The area where the explosion occurred was last inspected in April. The boiler tubes carry high-pressure water and steam to turn the turbine generators, which spin to produce electricity.

James "Red" Simpson, business manager of International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local 326 has worked at the plant for 25 years said, "In my experience with the plant in the 25 years that I have been here, I can't say enough for the safety programs that are in place. These gentlemen who were sadly killed yesterday were some of the best-trained power plant workers. All of the safety precautions that had to be in place at the time of the accident, were in place."

Dominion has shut the plant's four generators down for a safety review and to assist employees with the deaths. The plant powers 740,000 homes and employs a 145 employees and is located on Fort Avenue in Salem on a 65-acre waterfront site and uses coal-fired generators but also has a generator that runs on oil.


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Talk:Singer Meat Loaf falls ill during concert

OR notes
Per Original reporting: I was present as an audience member. I am an administrator on the English Wikipedia with the same user name. The story has so far been reported on the local television news service: ITV Tyne Tees (re comments about the Arena's statement). The JPS 00:12, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Now, a RS is quoting me: The JPS 01:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Relevance? Non-notable
It seems to me this would fall under the category of non-noteable. This is no more important than if Granny Smith collapsed at the supermarket. I nominate this article for deletion. CaponeX 10:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

 * It meets Style guide, and also has sources. Granny Smith falling ill is not news because granny smith is not notable and Granny Smith is not a famous well known person. Its not whether the news is important that matters, its whether or not it follows policy. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 10:56, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Meat Loaf is a recording artist on a major American label, who has released hit songs. He is notable, and so his suggested retirement is certainly notable. --  Zanimum 13:43, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I would argue that if Granny Smith collapsed in a supermarket it too would be newsworthy. --SVTCobra 13:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * A shopper stated, "There were apples flying everywhere, it was horrific. People stampeded out of the supermarket as the Granny Smiths were followed by the oranges." --Brian McNeil / talk 14:04, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I like Meat Loaf. I read the article with interest and more than a little dismay, more than I would do for a lot of articles. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * A user appearing (although one with knowledge of policies) simply to criticise a ML related article is an experience with which I am familiar on Wikipedia. Just ignore. The JPS 16:10, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


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12 'fire bombs' found inside Buffalo, New York apartment house

The Buffalo Fire Department is currently investigating how 12 "fire bombs" ended up inside an abandoned apartment house on 15 Allen Street in Allentown, a neighborhood in Buffalo, New York on Wednesday November 7.

In an exclusive report, Wikinews has learned from a witness who wishes to remain anonymous, that at approximately 12:00 p.m. EST (UTC-5) Heidi Garner called 9-1-1 to report that while walking her dog, it had been attacked by two other dogs when it sniffed under a gate of the house. When police arrived to investigate and retrieve the assaulting dogs, they entered the house and found the 12 fire bombs. It is not known what the devices were made of or what the explosive material was, but unconfirmed reports say the main explosive source was gasoline.

The Hazmat team, the bomb squad, and emergency services were then dispatched to the scene to dispose of the devices, according to witness reports. It is not known where they were taken.

Both dogs were immediately put to sleep because they were fighting over the body of the dead dog. It is not known who is the owner of the dogs, as the house was not rented, and no one was supposed to be living there.

Wikinews has also learned, while investigating the property history, the Erie County's Department of Finance says that the building, which also has a storefront, is allegedly owned by a Richard White who happens to live next door at 17 Allen. White bought the property from Edward G. Koch in 1996. The building was built in 1910.

It is not known what the devices were going to be used for and an investigation is ongoing. It is not known if there are any suspects.

Because of a severe amount of garbage and dog feces, the City of Buffalo has condemned the building.


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Talk:12 'fire bombs' found inside Buffalo, New York apartment house

OR
I herd the dispatch and the main information on disposal and who was dispatched from police scanners. I am awaiting on calls and e-mails for statements from the various departments. Please do not publish just yet. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I e-mailed Erie County Emergency Services and Hazmat and the Fire Department. I also called them and left messages with them. It is after 5pm (eastern time) now and I am betting I will not hear from them until tomorrow...if at all. If not I have the scanner report and the witness report which would be good enough, but I want more of an exclusive :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:07, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The witness wants to remain anonymous unfortunately, manly because the fore department and such tried to do a good job at keeping this incident on the hush hush. I will try for a photo of the address tomorrow. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:08, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Richard White
I see the ownership records for 15 Allen St, but how did you establish that Richard White lives at 17 Allen St? --SVTCobra 01:01, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * On the right column on the actual statement source (NOT the history source). A few spaces down. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 07:32, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * OK thanks. --SVTCobra 11:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Exclusive
Is it really an exclusive? It seems WIVB published largely the same story last night, before this was published. Sure, your original research has added details that they don't have, but still. --SVTCobra 22:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It would have been published, but I waited for statements. I decided to try to get more than what someone saw. I don't think these were bombs as in terrorist bombs, and they were swiftly removed, so I saw no reason to rush on something that is odd and weird news or whatever. But if you want to count when I made the first edit, it was long before they put theirs up. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Typo?
"It is known where they were taken." Is that supposed to be unknown, or do we know and just want to keep it quiet? 146.7.195.46 23:07, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ it was a typo...thanks :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:14, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Accuracy dispute:
User:Jlwbflo had this to say, which I have moved from the article to here:

I have unpublished this story until we resolve this dispute. --SVTCobra 18:42, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * For one, I was listening to the scanners when the dispatcher said FIRE BOMBS. Where is a source that it was not meant for explosives? The dogs were put to sleep...also VIA police scanner. Again...POLICE Scanner said fence/gate. No one has at all claimed ANY ownership of the dogs. Again...please prove any of what you say. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 20:30, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

 * IMO our policys state that or is fine and the info here has not been disproved with any proof. also i put a hell of a lot more trust in Jason as an accredited user who has written many pieces of OR before than an editors who's first edit was to the article.

 * Markie slaps himself with a large cod for the above failure ;-). Cheers adam!! --Mark Talk to me 21:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I think that you need to attribute some of the things in the article. Use phrases like "According to police dispatcher, the dogs were put to sleep" and whatever information you got from the witness should also be attributed to the witness. BTW (and not really relevant per se), but have you tried to contact Richard White? --SVTCobra 21:34, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I too am pretty sure we can trust DragonFire on this one. This looks like trolling to me. That said, I also agree better attribution would help improve the perceived reliability. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:40, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Besides the all-caps, this does not look like trolling. However, if, as Jlwbflo claims, it turns out the dogs were not put to death, do we issue a correction? Just a hypothetical.--SVTCobra 21:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The attribution is there and its as much as I am going to get...I called the appropriate agencies and e-mailed them, with no responses on either end. I cannot say who the dispatcher was/is because they don't use names on the radios. There is no known telephone number, and assuming all the internet resources are up to date, then its even possible he may not own the place anymore, let alone live there. I have done all I can and contacted everyone I could. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 21:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Again, I am not asking for names and it is not attributed. Right now it says "Both dogs were immediately put to sleep, because they were fighting over the body of the dead dog." All I am saying, it would be best to add "According to the police dispatcher" to that sentence. --SVTCobra 22:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * As for the witness, I have the obligation as a journalist to keep their personal info such as name, anonymous. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I am not saying to name anybody. So what information did you get from the witness? That Heidi Garner called 9-1-1 and that she was walking her dog? Because that is all you attribute to the witness. --SVTCobra 22:05, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict)If we do make a mistake, then I believe we should issue a correction. The reason I am overly suspicious is this: if it was genuinely only petrol in there, why a)would the police confiscate it b) would he know (I don't see any media reporting that, although I'll have a crack on Google News for it)? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:01, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I know for a fact that all of the "fire bombs" were taken from the premises by the Hazmat team and bomb disposal units. Not to mention that it is all considered evidence as well. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I told User:Jlwbflo the following:

--SVTCobra 22:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

 * That seems a reasonable and fair way of ending it to me. No results from Google News. I guess we just leave it now unless any evidence emerges? Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Disputed
To the Editor: I posted an edit earlier that was rejected, so I have posted as a comment. I stand by my assertions and still request edits be made. Simple verification by calling Buffalo Police B District will confirm that much of the article is completely untrue.

I would also like to note the the copywrited photo used in the article is used without permission. Although the author attributes the photo correctly to Michael Mulley, I have spoken with the photographer and he categorically states that he did not grant permission to use his work. The photo in question was copied (as noted in the photo source information) from the Allentown Association Web site at www.allentown.org. The Allentown Association commissioned the photo for it's Web site, paid the artist for the work and has exclusive right to use of the photo. I would also request that this photo, which is used without permission be removed from the article. If you need to verify this you may e-mail the association from www.allentown.org or call the Association office at 71/881-1024. Thank you.

 * Regarding the copyright of the image, special permission was obtained and is on file with OTRS. --SVTCobra 23:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

 * someone needs to check the OTRS ticket for it - looks good to me but i cant read the ticket --Mark Talk to me 23:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I do not have an OTRS account. --SVTCobra 23:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Try logging on to #wikimedia-otrs, and PM one of the users there. Thunderhead - (talk - email - contributions) 23:40, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I got brianmc on IRC to do it. --SVTCobra 23:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Brianmc says the OTRS ticket is valid. --SVTCobra 23:59, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Funny that I have the e-mails from the Allentown Association saying that I do have permission. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:18, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

From comment page
I have sent a note to the editor of this page requesting corrections to this article and have also sent an e-mail directly to the writer asking for corrections to be made. My request to the editor was rejected.

Simply pulling information from a police scanner at the time that a 911 call is made provides grossly incomplete information. Such limited information gathering does not present all of the facts that will be discovered later.

 * Fact: The two labs in question are alive.  You can see them in person in the quarantine area of the Buffalo animal shelter.
 * The dogs are dead. And I doubt that the dispatchers would lie, especially to the officials. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Fact: containers of gasoline were removed because were improperly stored in non-approved plastic containers (gallon jugs).  There is no report that these were meant for anything other than storage as fuel.  There is no indication they were to be used as firebombs.  You may check the police reports at B district police station or call the district Captain to verify this.  Your assertion is simply untrue.
 * I have, and as I stated e-mailed ALL appropriate agencies with no response. And I am not going to sit back and believe that someone NOT affiliated or accredited from a press organization is going to get more information from the police than I. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Fact: WIVB television news carried a factual report on this incident on the evening news on Wednesday, November 7.  WIVB interviewed the dog owner, other witesses and police and fire officials.  NO POLICE OR FIRE OFFICIAL MADE ANY STATEMENTS WITH REGARD TO FIREBOMBS.
 * Actually they only interviewed the dog owner. The dispatcher said fire bombs, and until I talk to a fire official otherwise, then that is the quote I am using. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Fact: One of the wiki reviewers that rejected my edits to the article noted that a Google search on this topic comes up with no results and therefore decided to reject my request for edits.  This reviewer might also have noted that the incident was not reported in the Buffalo News.  Any reasonable person might rationally assume that if twelve "firebombs" were removed from a building in a residential neighborhood, then there would be far greater media coverage.
 * Wrong...they were in and out of the address in less than an hour. The purpose was NOT to get the press involved. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

The headline "12 'fire bombs' found inside Buffalo, New York apartment house" and the details in the wiki report here are sensationalistic and incendiary in their own right. This report aggravates the tragedy for the owner of the dog that was killed. Further, the misleading and outright incorrect assertions that "firebombs" were removed from the property do damage to the Allentown neighborhood and to the City of Buffalo by creating a false impression that the neighborhood is unsafe. .
 * Prove it. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)