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Demonstration held in support of Jill Carroll

January 20, 2006

Reporters Without Borders held a demonstration today at the Grand Mosque in Paris in support of Jill Carroll calling for her release. Present were Mosque rector Dalil Boubakeur with five French ex-hostages: Florence Aubenas, Roger Auque, Jean-Jacques Le Garrec, Roland Madura and Ivan Cerieix.

Carroll was kidnapped in January when insurgents ambushed her car and killed her translator. She is 28 years old. The abductors gave a 72 hour dead line; that is due to expire this evening, and are expected to kill her if their demands are not met.


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US stocks slump as crude oil surges, gold hits 25 yr high

January 20, 2006 US stocks suffered their biggest declines in more than two years on concerns about oil supplies from Iran and Nigeria. Crude oil prices jumped to more than $68 a barrel, levels not seen since September last year. Gold hit a 25 year peak and last traded at $553.50 an ounce.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) slumped 213+ points today amid fears of Iran and terrorism. The index has now given up all its gains since the beginning of the year. Among its 30 components, only McDonalds ended the day in positive territory. Disappointing earnings dragged down shares of General Electric Co. and Citigroup Inc.

Fourth quarter earnings
Since the start of the Q4 earnings season, many analysts have been reducing their earnings expectations. S&P 500 companies are now expected to report a profit growth of 12.7 percent, compared with earlier expectations of 15.5 percent. This analysis was done by Bloomberg using data from Thomson. Earnings growth is expected to slow down to 9.9 percent in the first quarter of this year.

Shares of GE gave up $1.35 to end at $33.33 after the firm reported its smallest earnings gain since 2004. GE is the world's second largest firm by market value. Q4 earnings rose to 55 cents a share from 54 cents while revenue rose 2.6 percent to $40.7 billion, below analysts' estimates.

The DJIA was dragged down by Citigroup, largest bank in US. Its stock fell $1.98 to $45.96. The company reported fourth-quarter earnings of $4.97 billion, or 98 cents a share. The earnings were below consensus estimates of $1.


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This story is based on the one that was added to an old news story Reporter abducted in Baghdad Saturday morning. I went and moved it here. Brian | (Talk) | New Zealand Portal 21:50, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

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Iran moves finances out of Europe's banks

January 20, 2006 Iran, has decided to pull its finances out of European banks and into different foreign banks. A senior Iranian official stated that this is an attempt to pre-empt possible U.N. sanctions over its resumption of nuclear fuel enrichment activities.

Comments by Iran's central bank governor Ebrahim Sheibani, carried on air by the ISNA student news agency, confirmed that Iran had started transferring funds.

"We transfer foreign reserves to wherever we see as expedient. On this issue, we have started transferring. We are doing that," Sheibani told the ISNA agency.

Ebrahim Sheibani also told the agency that the assets were being moved to an "undisclosed" location.

It is unknown exactly how much money is involved or whether or not Iran's investments in Europe would be affected by the move. Traders have said that they had already factored such a possibility into the market.

Gary Samore, an expert on Iran and vice president for international programs at the McArthur Foundation in Chicago, said "the move reflected concern by Tehran that the Europeans might take unilateral measures amid the crisis over its nuclear program." He also added that its decision to pull its assets from Europe "makes sense in terms of preparing for the possibility that Europe might take some measure to impose some financial sanctions. I don't know that it changes the diplomatic formula. The key issue is still the question of whether or not the Western group can engineer a formal referral to the Security Council."

It is unclear if an asset freeze or other punishment is imminent in Iran, but it has happened before. The country's assets in the United States have been frozen since Iranians seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and held its staff hostage after the 1979 Islamic revolution.

An Italian court last year had ordered an Iranian bank account to be frozen at the request of U.S. plaintiffs who were seeking compensation for terrorist acts they believe were supported by the country (Iran).

Earlier the EU drafted a resolution that calls for referring Iran to the 15-nation council. But it is said to stop short of asking for punitive measures against Iran. The IAEA is expected to meet on February 2, 2006 to discuss Europe's draft.


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TWU members reject contract

January 20, 2006

In a close vote, union members rejected the proposed contract negotiated by the Transport Workers Union Local 100 (TWU) and Metropolitan Transportation Agency (MTA) after a crippling transit strike ground New York City to a halt in December.

Calling the rejection "disappointing news to all New Yorkers", Mayor Michael Bloomberg called on the TWU and the MTA to return to the bargaining table as soon as possible. The TWU has expressed that it is ready to negotiate, but the MTA has not made any comment at this time.

After a week-long rallying effort, including radio advertisements by TUW Local 100 President Roger Toussaint encouraging union members to vote for the proposed contract, the voting period ended at 12:00 EST (17:00 UTC) and ballots had been counted by 17:00 EST (22:00 UTC). The final tally was 11,227 to 11,234 against - A difference of seven votes.

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U.S. Senate confirms Supreme Court nominee Alito

January 31, 2006

After several weeks of at times contentious deliberation in the, the United States Senate confirmed Judge Samuel A. Alito, Jr. to the Supreme Court with 58 votes in favor and 42 against. Only one Republican, of Rhode Island, voted against confirmation. Four Democrats, including former  of West Virginia, voted for confirmation. Alito was sworn-in later in the day.

Alito had been nominated by President George W. Bush following the withdrawal of his original Supreme Court nominee, a criminal lawyer and close associate of Bush since before his tenure as Governor of Texas from 1994-2000. Miers, facing harsh criticism of her qualifications for a position on the high court, along with growing opposition from members of the conservative movement, elected to withdraw in October 2005.

Alito was nominated shortly after Miers' withdrawal, and faced the Judiciary Committee in January 2006.

With the Bush Administration facing poor approval ratings following the withdrawal of Miers, Senate Democrats put forth a strong offensive to the confirmation of Alito. They questioned Alito extensively of his record on abortion, exercise of executive authority, his opinions on various legal issues while studying at Princeton University and his membership in the group there.

Following the Judiciary Committee's party-line vote approving Alito, efforts were spearheaded by ranking Judiciary Committee member Sen. (D-MA) and Sen. John F. Kerry (D-MA) to filibuster Alito's confirmation. However, the motion to end debate on Alito ended with a 72-25 cloture vote; Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) acknowledged that a filibuster was not a realistic option to stop Alito's confirmation.

Alito is the second judge to be appointed and confirmed to the Supreme Court by President Bush. His first appointee, Judge John Roberts, was confirmed by the Senate in the autumn of 2005. Following the death of Chief Justice William Rehnquist, Roberts was immediately selected to fill Rehnquist's post.

Alito will be replacing Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who was a crucial swing vote in an ideologically divided Court. With the appointment of Alito, the Court will most likely experience a shift to the political right. How much of a shift cannot be precisely determined, as it remains to be seen how Alito will rule in cases involving critical social issues.

Alito earned a bachelor's degree in law from Princeton University, and did his graduate work at. Most of his bench experience has come at the, where he has served as a justice since 1990, when President George H.W. Bush nominated him for the post. He follows current Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia as the second Italian-American member of the high court.

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Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) told the AP that the United States would "be better and stronger and more unified if we were confirming a different nominee, a nominee who could have united us more than divided us".

Senator (D-RI) said he is concerned with Alito's "philosophy of the Constitution [and] his great effort of many years to expand presidential power at a time when there are real serious questions about the powers the president has".

Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said there are no doubts about Alito's "qualification in terms of education, professional career and his service on the court of appeals."

And in a written statement, President Bush called Alito a "brilliant and fair-minded judge who strictly interprets the Constitution and laws and does not legislate from the bench. He is a man of deep character and integrity, and he will make all Americans proud as a Justice on our highest court."


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Ayman al-Zawahiri releases new tape

January 21, 2006 The CIA has confirmed that a tape that surfaced today is that of Ayman al-Zawahiri.

A spokesman for the CIA said, "Following technical analysis of the tape, the CIA has assessed that it is the voice of Ayman al-Zawahiri."

The tape was posted on an internet forum that has carried Al Qaeda communiqués before.

On the tape, Zawahiri read a poem called the "martyrs of jihad". He said that he dedicates it to "Muslim brothers everywhere, to the mujahedeen brothers in Islam's fortified borderlines against the Zionist-Crusader campaign in Palestine and Iraq, Afghanistan and Chechnya and to the lions chasing the crusaders' gangs and hired hands in Afghanistan's mountains and valleys and its wounded capital, Kabul."

He then went on to say, "I am honored to present this mujahedeen poem, written by Maulai Muhibbulla al-Qandahari, who carried the pen and the sword and was known in the circles of scholars and the training camps and the battlefields of jihad."

It is still unclear as to when the tape was made exactly and it is still unclear if it has anything to do with the release of Bin Laden's tape yesterday.

On the tape, Zawahiri makes no mention of the U.S. missile attacks that killed 18 people, including women and children, and is suspected of killing 4 terrorists last week.

A U.S. counterterrorism expert said there was "no reason to believe it was done recently. It could be something that someone pulled off the shelf and decided to post."

U.S. officials reasoned that the tapes release "might have been timed to assure his followers that Bin Laden was alive and well" just days after the U.S. air strikes.

U.S. rejects Bin Laden's Truce
On Thursday, Vice President, Dick Cheney dismissed Bin Laden's truce saying that "We don't negotiate with terrorists. I think you have to destroy them."

Cheney also said that he thinks the Al Qaeda truce appeared to be a "ploy," but also added that "it is too early to draw conclusions." He also said, "I'm not sure what he's offering by way of a truce. I don't think anybody would believe him...it sounds to me like it's some kind of a ploy. This is not an organization that's ever going to sit down and sign a truce."

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Hi! Welcome to Wikinews! You've been doing some good work on A Tragedy in Vladivostok: Up To 70 Could Be Rescued But Were Not. You should note, however, that all information in a Wikinews article needs to be sourced. If the information in the article is original reporting, in other words, if you discovered the information yourself through observations or interviews, then you need to read the original reporting information page. Most importantly, you need to place comments on your articles talk page stating how the original reporting was conducted. I hope you take the time to do this - your contributions to Wikinews so far have been extremely worthwhile, and it would be a shame for your article to be deleted because of a lack of sourcing. Again, welcome! - Borofkin 05:10, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

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Vladivostok fire witnesses dispute official death toll of nine, claim at least 50

January 23, 2006

At 11:45am on January 16, in Vladivostok, Russia, a fire broke out on the three upper floors of the Sberbank building.

Photographs taken by eye-witnesses show people, who were trapped, dropping from 8th floor windows to their deaths. According to some reports the firemen who were dispatched to the scene were pre-occupied at the rear of the building. They had apparently been ordered to evacuate the bank and its management from the area, which was not under immediate threat.

Official Russian media initially denied the fire, accusing the reports of being false.

Russian media later confirmed 7 and then, 9 dead. Witnesses and those rescued from the burning building have claimed that the figure exceeds 50.

A maintenance employee who worked in the building was quoted as saying, "I know at least about 13 dead inside ... that's the least I've noticed, not to consider those who've dropped down ... 8 of them dropped, looking at the three already dead on the ground, but they went through the windows without hope to be rescued ... They collected and hid the dead bodies inside. I work at this building! I know its layout very well! To declare, as it become clear, a less number of the dead later."

"My daughter worked in a justice department," - Natalia, one of the witnesses said. "She said that there were actually much more dead - up to 70. She went on the dead bodies, getting out from the building … some of them were so scorched, that it was impossible to identify them… 9 victims? That's a lie!"

Georic, a witness: "The cops ("menty"), whom I know, say that they've been loading the dead bodies all night long."

Lelya has posted her evidence on January 21, 2006 on the web-site http://news.vl.ru/vlad/2006/01/18/tradegy/ "My brother worked in that building, on the 6th flour. So, the night after the fire they visited the building to collect the documents, etc. and they saw how workers transported the dead bodies. He said, there were 50-60.."

Actions of the officials
Eugenia, a witness said, "who has told you, that fireteam arrived in 3 minutes? Or in 20 minutes? My uncle worked on anouther side of the building. He personally gave a call to the fire department. They said, "ok, ok, take it easy, here we go..." as if it were just some fun for them, "nothing serious!"

Reports from the scene say the fire brigade arrived at least 40 minutes or more from the time the call about the fire was placed.

The Fire-safety Department officials state that firemen had had "objective obstacles" which hampered rescue efforts. Among them were barred emergency exits and a congestion of cars in front of the burning building. The mayor of Vladivostok in reply to a plea "to rescue those who are still in fire, does human life really cost nothing?" replied saying that, "human life costs nothing in Russia."

Law-enforcement authorities arrested the inspector who had checked the building in July 2004, and exposed a number of irregularities, such as barred windows in stairwells, but failed to control the elimination of these shortcomings.

Lyudmila Feofanova, CEO of the Maritime branch of "Sberbank", was arrested in Vladivostok in conjunction with the case of the fire which has killed, according to official reports, 9 and seriousely wounded 17 last Monday.

The Office of Public Prosecutor accuses L.Feofanova on failure to provide the bank with a fire-prevention system.

Mass-media coverage
The Russian official news agencies and mass-media report only 9 victims, several bank employees.

Five days following the fire, people have launched dozens of forums and web-sites, trying to tell their side of the story. They have created lists of those believed to be killed or those that are unable to be indentified.


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Talk:Vladivostok fire witnesses dispute official death toll of nine, claim at least 50

Special investigation services wants more info from news.vl.ru
Goverment services wants additional info about people who posts comments on news.vl.ru (IP, logs and other secret info) Here is attention message from news.vl.ru http://news.vl.ru/vlad/2006/01/23/comment/
 * Thank you for the contribution. This news has been incorporated to another article: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Vladivostok:_Witnesses_of_Fire_Under_Investigation --Svobo 09:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Open letter from firemen to Putin
Here is published open letter http://news.vl.ru/vlad/2006/01/23/openletter/ Please translate.
 * It's not relevant to the "death toll" theme of this article. In the letter the firemen ask Putin why the investigation has stuck on the "skape goat" A.Lobanov, who inspected the building last year, but does not investigate a propriator and tennant of the bank offices, where the fire occured. --Svobo 09:57, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Another arrests
I have found the dossier about that tragedy. It is located on information agency REGNUM - http://www.regnum.ru/dossier/735.html

http://www.regnum.ru/news/576755.html - here news about another two arrests.

Please translate it.

Copy from there (in Russian):

Работа одного из отделений Сбербанка во Владивостоке парализована

Во Владивостоке по делу о пожаре, в результате которого погибли 9 человек, арестованы еще 2 человека.

Как сообщил 23 января на пресс-конференции прокурор края Александр Аникин, старшему инспектору отделения Сбербанка Виктору Ханикову предъявлено обвинение в нарушении правил пожарной безопасности, повлекшее по неосторожности смерть 2-х или более лиц. Позже прокуратура края предъявила обвинение в халатности начальнику отдела государственного пожарного надзора Сергею Лузгану.

Ранее ИА REGNUM сообщало, что по этому делу были арестованы управляющая отделением Сбербанка Людмила Феофанова и старший инспектор Госпожарназдора Алексей Лобанов.

Пожар возник 16 января на VIII этаже 9-этажного здания, в котором расположены отделение Сбербанка и десятки коммерческих офисов. Следствие установило, что в помещениях, занимаемых банком, не были разработаны планы эвакуации людей в случае пожара. Одной из причин гибели людей явилось наличие решеток на лестничных пролетах здания.

Между тем, 23 января во Владивостоке произошел инцидент, косвенно связанный с пожаром. В одном из отделений Сбербанка неизвестные выбили окна и написали на стене "16 января". Работа банковского отделения парализована.

 * Here is in English http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=2824569&PageNum=0 --Svobo 10:12, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Witnesses under persecution?
BBC reports on 21 Jan Here is http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/russian/news/newsid_4635000/4635464.stm a post with a statement of a Chief of Vladivostok City Police Department (translation below):

 * Участники митинга были уверены, что власти скрывают истинное количество жертв и при этом ссылались на интернет-сайт. "Мы проверяли опубликованные там сообщения, но ни одно из них не подтвердилось. Удалось разыскать двух авторов сообщений. Один уже отказался от того, что там написал, второй скрывается", - рассказал начальник УВД Владивостока полковник Николай Панченко.

 * The meeting participants are sure, that the authorities hide a true number of victims and refer to the web-site. We verified the publised messages, but none of them was confirmed. We have detected the two authors of the messages. One of them has already refused from everythig he wrote there, another is still hiding out", - the Chief of Vladivostok City Police Department colonel Nikolay Panchenko said.

Nothing to wonder it's usual practice to take "promise not to disclose" in the cases of terrist act or so. Usually they take it from the persons who know secret data, etc. Svobo 04:11, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

 * In the translation above, are the "authors" the same persons who made posts "to the web-site" that were read by meeting participants who later raised hell with Panchenko and other authorities when discussing the incident? If true, then the authors refuse to identify themselves. -Edbrown05 04:20, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, the authorities are pursueing the authors. Only two, and as the officer said - for the testimony about "number of dead bodies". I searched through the hundreds of messages from the douzen of sources, it was at least 3 messages about the dead bodies. One is from a bank employee, a justice department, who was getting out of the fire and has seen the dead bodies inside the building. She told about "up to 70". Second, from a nightguard, who worked that night in a neighbour building and has seen "how they have been loading the dead bodies all night long". Third, the employee of the building maintenance team, who noticed how they hid the dead (or wounded?) bodies during the fire. Also, there were the messages from people who have heard about "hidden dead bodies" from relatives or friends, who a) work in police and have been loading the dead bodies that night, and b) who has visited the building by occasion and by this has seen the dead bodies loading. Svobo 05:50, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Or rather, one author "refused from everything he wrote", which in English could be taken to mean the author would not affirm the accuracy of what was written. -Edbrown05 04:29, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) he said what posts he wrote are his lie and 2) he said what he doesn't write this posts - there is equivocal meaning (double meaning).
 * This attempt to clarify has not been helpful for me. -Edbrown05 05:20, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I tried to keep the meaning as closer to the original as possible. In Russian the statement can be understood as the author denies\rejects\refuse what he said before, a sort of "to take his words back". Svobo 06:11, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Breaking news
Feofanova Ludmila arrested! Here is a post about arrest.

Below is a copy-paste of that post. Please, translate it and insert in article.
 * Done. I used a more concise version of the same post on http://www.svobodanews.ru/News/129228.html But probably it need some "re-englishing" Svobo 05:02, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

In Vladivostok, Lyudmila Feofanova, CEO of the "Primorskaya" branch of "Sberbank", has been arrested in conjunction with case of the fire which has killed 9 and seriousely wounded 17 last Monday.

The Office of Public Prosecutor accuses L.Feofanova on failure to provide the bank with a fire-prevention system.

Earlier a responsible fire inspector Alexey Lobanov has been arrested on charge of negligence. The fire in a building where the branch of the SberBank has been located, has occured on January, 16th. According to preliminary data, the reason brought the bank's employees to death were rough infringements of fire prevention rules.

Во Владивостоке по делу о пожаре арестована управляющая приморским отделением Сбербанка, ей предъявлено обвинение

Владивосток. 22 января. ИНТЕРФАКС - Прокуратура Приморского края предъявила обвинение управляющей Приморским отделением Сбербанка России Людмиле Феофановой.

Как сообщила в воскресенье "Интерфаксу" старший помощник прокурора края Ирина Номоконова, Л.Феофанова обвиняется в совершении преступления, предусмотренного частью третьей статьи 219 Уголовного кодекса РФ - "нарушение правил пожарной безопасности, совершенное лицом, на котором лежала обязанность по их соблюдению, повлекшее по неосторожности смерть двух или более лиц".

По словам И. Номоконовой, в ходе расследования уголовного дела по факту пожара в здании "Промстройниипроект", унесшего жизни девяти человек, прокуратурой установлено, что Л.Феофанова, как руководитель организации, не создала в помещениях, занимаемых банком, систему пожарной безопасности, направленную на предотвращение пожара и спасение людей. Допущенные ей нарушения правил пожарной безопасности повлекли тяжкие последствия - гибель девяти человек и причинение вреда здоровью 17 сотрудникам банка при пожаре, произошедшем 16 января.

"Решением федерального суда Ленинского района в субботу в отношении Л.Феофановой была избрана мера пресечения в виде содержания под стражей", - отметила представитель прокуратуры.

Another link with more information - http://primamedia.ru/news/show/?id=5272

This article should not be delayed
Many people in Russia need your help. Please finish and publish this article as soon as possible. Today was the meeting with average 500 people (it is very big number for such town) in Vladivostok. Only one local media (Vesti) report about meeting. We don't know about president and his possession of meeting, but we know that west side of Russia is know nothing. Information is spreaded with Internet and other uncontrolled media. We need more attention from other people. Please finish and publish this article as soon as possible. GD 15:02, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Please note, this article is not about the fire itself, but about how the Russian officials and mass-media react to the tragedy. The article reveals the non-official but nevetheless very trustworthy information from the eyewitnesses. So please don't consider it as a duplicate of any other article. Thnx.

''From anonymous visitor: I can't buy it, is Edbrown05 sincere ? Emergency crew could not come near the building since parked cars were in their way, so he says. I (1) doubt this can be true, and even it was true, I would ask, what disabled emergency crue to move the cars to free the way? Physics (2) ? Ethics (3)? Law (4). Let's look.'' 1. Emergency crue succeded to come near one wing of building. Then they could turn and move along the wall to come to another wing. It is highly improbable that cars was ordered so to divide the building into two sections. 2. It is next to impossible to believe that several trucks could not move single little car, then another one, freeing the way. 3. It is impossible to consider unethical saving human lives, even if it requires to move several cars 10 meters aside. Note that car owners were caught in the fire and they would not value possible scratches on their cars more than the lives of their own. ''4. There is a law in Russia, that claims that in critycal situation, where human's life is in danger, anyone is authorised to do actions required to save that person's life. Refusing to do this and living person without help is, in turn, a crime. I believe every country has a law like this. If at dead night You broke into some shop and take the goods, you are thief. If at dead night You found a person bleeding with knife cuts, then You must broke into medical shop and take bandage to stop blood. More so, it is not crime to move someone's car in practive. In Moscow there is much more cars, than parking sites. And if You chanced to park the car somewhere wrong, there is a great chance that some commercial lorry named "evacuator" would take Your car and move somewhere. Later You would dial one police department after another and ask if they know what commercial company (there are several) had taken You car. Then You would pay them for their work as much as they say, or You would never drive Your car again. That is lawful everyday, with no emergency nor danger. And You said when fire was killing humans, law prohibited moving cars 10 meters aside???''

 * Understood, but weren't there a lot of parked cars that blocked emergency crews from responding with ladders on the side of the building where people were captured on video jumping from the building? -Edbrown05 06:15, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Media reports, as sources, that are written in Russian are not understood. (... by this user) I'm sure there is a lot of controversy surrounding this disaster/accident. Without knowledge of your or photographer's user history here at Wikinews, it would be irresponsible to accept on the "say so" of yours that 70, not 9, died in the fire. -Edbrown05 07:01, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

We have edited the article about how the firmen acted, trying to cover different points of view. As to the number of the victims, we rely on report of the nightguards of the building who have seen how the dozens of corps have been transported from the building during the night 16\17 Jan. The rather independent news website NEWSRU.com refers to the same source, but they indicate "more than 50" and it's almost the same as "up to 70" in the situation of the official lie. No problem, we could correct to "more then 50". Anyway, you could use any on-line Rus->En translator to check the content on http://www.newsru.com/russia/19jan2006/vladivostok.html http://lenta.ru/news/2006/01/21/fire/ (this web-edition also reports about "much more then 9") -Svobo

 * As a matter of style, Wikinews does not make a sensation over the claim in this report which reads that firemen evacuated bank management employees from a section of the building where the fire was not yet present, yet implies that the other side of the building, where people were jumping out of windows, was ignored. Is that true? Be real. -Edbrown05 07:50, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

That's why we report about it. That's why all Russia talks about it. It's outrageous  inhumanity, that those people commited - firemen should rescue, but they were drunk, they should rescue people in the fire first, but they had an order to rescue the senior management of the bank! That's reality in that country! That's why the federal authority are blocking the truth, because it's outrageous even for Russia. Pls take a look at the photo yourselves: http://fire.zloe.net/images/dleko.jpg (left word is "ladder", right one is "fire". and you can see the people - the young girls, some of them are the young mothers - are dropping down!) -Svobo

 * I understand in idea, but not execution or follow through about a translation for the sources you list for this story. Purely my opinion speaking now in this moment... I keep (on occasion) hearing on civil services issues this "drunk" theme coming out of Russia. Is public service and intoxication that bad? -Edbrown05 08:23, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Only thing related to authorities are coveres in this article. "Drunk" theme and total corruption of public services are a common place for the years, since early 90th. But there are some more reports, not less shocking. When fire started the management has forced the young bank workers to collect the paper documents and put them into fire-proof boxes. They've been doing that for almost an hour, and only when open fire started to break into the offices they decided to put work aside and run away from there. Also there are several reports about the looting during the fire and, probably, after. The investigations on that cases are already launched by the prosecutor. Here is another pic with the plan of building (click to enlarge) http://www.animasha.com/bforum/forum.php?bzk=almaru&board=1480 -Svobo

 * So do you you think if Wikinews publishes this story, it would not be wrong for the assertions in the article that firemen were more concerned for people who were not most threatened by the fire at the time those emergency crews responded. -Edbrown05 09:26, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Today a civil meeting has been held in Vladivostok, at 12 pm, around 300 were present. Slogans were "Who will tell us the truth?", "We want to know the truth!", "Our lives cost nothing!", "Authorities should respond!", "Firemen are those who should be set on fire!" There are some photoes http://vlfire.ruwow.ru/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=14 and http://vlfire.ruwow.ru/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=3 (here is the source and some links to official news websites http://vlfire.ruwow.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=51 ).

I'm sure that it would not be wrong to cover how the firemen has handled the fire, if it provokes such protests. -Svobo

 * And that the Russian media seeks to hide the true magnitude of the fire casualties. -Edbrown05 09:32, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * The Russian media are under tight pro-kremlin control for the last 4-5 years. And if we compare the coverage of different events- profitabe for them and not - the different media strategy become apperent. The media tends to hide everything that reveals a failure of the authorities to complete their public duties.  -Svobo

title suggestion
suitably with the POV occuring in this article: "Fireman hosed in rescue effort, lives lost"... sorry so ruthlessly american. -Edbrown05 08:51, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

 * probably, the point of the article is to cover the discrepancy in the official information and the testimonies of those who's lucky enough to survive. but, sure, the title should be amended. -Svobo
 * so sorry, it seems something goes wrong with renaming, a lot of redirects. is the current title out of wikinews approach? -Svobo
 * I think the not 9 part is POV...unless there is proof of that and or quotes...maybe there is...i might have missed that. Jason Safoutin 12:41, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 9 are the bank employees only, young girls http://www.fesb.ru/fesb/content/about/news/1137539555 and nothing about those who have been killed inside the building and were the bank's visitors, etc. At least two witnesses have reported about the dead bodies transportation, more then 30, that occurs by the night. But the Russian mass-media repeat only about those 9, the bank stuff (whose deaths whould be easy to proof by their relatives). the comparision is nesseccary to show off the possible lie of the authority, that's why "not 9" is in the title. sure we can use quotes. -Svobo 14:50 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Well I think those quotes and statements need to be validated. I am not rejecting this article and I am very interested as to whats going on as I have NOT heard a single thing about this on American Media. No suprise really. BUT with that said, we also have to be fair and balanced. I am NTO suggesting those statements are not true nor am I suggesting only nine died. But you NEED to back up your claims really. If those are individual quotes you should get names. Or state something along the lines of...they wanted to remain anonomyous... or something to that nature...But until then, I think the title MIGHT be a POV. But I will NOT be the one to tag the article. Jason Safoutin 14:54, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Copyedit
I've done a copyedit of the first three paragraphs (more a rewrite). After that point it gets a bit unclear what are quotes from witnesses, and what are POV items from the original contributors. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:07, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks to the last contributor I was able to progress a little further through copyediting this. But starting at the "Women shouted they had children and that it's no way for them to die" bit is where the problems currently exist.  Rather than working on making the article longer, can we have a discussion on the talk page to try and address the NPOV concerns?  I'm aware people in Russia don't seem to have a media organisation to look to for an example of the concept, but if you look at the BBC's news site and aim for something you think they'd publish then you're on the right track. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:26, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I've removed this fragment "Women shouted they had.." Brian, could you give some advice on "the NPOV concerns"? Svobo 17:50, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * As you'd notice, I removed links to the websites. They'll need to go in the sources, or within the article as "Witness X said on the http://www.example.com site, blah blah blah...". Probably need to drop the exact timestamps and refer to a post on site x on January y.  Only link to the site once, after that adopt a common name (eg drop the www and .ru bits) for the site. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:30, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the helping hand, Brian. All you do is really exellent! At the moment I'm searching for some more of the original quotes of witnesses and translating them. Svobo 16:34, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Possible POV's

Thats all I have an issue with...other than the really bad english. Jason Safoutin 17:53, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * 1. "possibly the phone began to melt"...we should not speculate.
 * I agree, it's removed. Really sorry for English! Svobo 18:21, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Because I do not know russian I do not want to re edit it for english becasue I am afraid I might change the words around and I know how sensitive this article and the story is. I see no other issues other than the english translation. If someone can edit for that then I will say its ready to publish. Jason Safoutin 18:31, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * If you could do this I would really appreciate it.. I didn't sleep for 2 days.. doing all that, and for the moment .. it will delay to find a native speaker.Svobo 18:39, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * How is this? let me know... Jason Safoutin 20:16, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * a really-really great job! i understand that never knew English before! i just insert my 2 cents - there was an only word missed in the text, i've put "confirmed" in "Russian media later (a word missed) that 7 to 9..." Jason, thanks! So should we publish it now? Svobo 20:32, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Mangled
I have, in good faith, tried to contribute towards this story. However some of the recent edits leave it in a state where I can't help move it towards deserving a published status, I would urge contributors to read a number of our articles to see how we present things, and – more importantly – our NPOV policy. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:11, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I tried my best to do the english. I knew it was not going to be good. But tried. Also I did NOT add the publish tag. Nor did I remove the NPOV. I do want to see this news get out and its a shame none of the american netowkrs say a single thing. Jason Safoutin 22:14, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

There is a language barrier that is difficult to leap over for this story. Wikinews does do original reporting (for which this report would qualify), and also has accredited writers. With this report, the fact that there is little in the english language to support the main thrust of the article, and lacking a history of creditable contributions to this site by the main contributor, I don't see much future for this article being published. -Edbrown05 09:31, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know how the Russian contributors can move it forward, but for it to qualify for Original Reporting I'd suggest adding a section to this page for it, cite links to the sites in Russia you're lifting quotes from, and paste the Russian and the translation. It also needs a bit of background on each site you want to use because those of us who're forced to use machine translations cannot easily work out the political leaning or affiliations of the sites.  That information would be needed in the article to establish how credible the story is, or if a particular agenda is being pursued.  For example, does the site regularly level misreporting accusations at the government? --Brian McNeil / talk 10:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Thank you. The message below has been copied on hundreds of sites, forumes and blogs. I have located the original http://www.forum.ptr-vlad.ru/showthread.php?t=1387&page=7&pp=10 This is a Forum of Primorskoye TV and Radio (Форум Приморского Телевидения и Радио in Russian, "Primorskoye" is name of region, where Vladivostok city is situated) I consider this one as one of the most trustworthy testimonies, the author is employee of the building maintenance taem.

(in Russian, original) 7.Погибло более 13 человек(это минимум,который я успел зафиксировать,не считая погибшими всех кто прыгал) 8.примерно около 8 из них погибли со стороны ДНС,видя внизу три трупа своих товарищей и тем не менее прыгая от безысходности…печально. 9.Со стороны ДНС 40 минут стояло всего 3 машины пожарных. 10.Трупы прятали внутри(а я как работник все нутро знаю и видел(подсмотрел))чтоб потом,как и окозалось,занизить число трупов.

(in English) 7. More than 13 were killed [inside](that's the least I've noticed, not to consider those who've dropped down) 8. around 8 of them were killed on a side of DNS, looking at the three already dead on the ground, nevertheless they went through the windows without hope to be rescued... so sad! 9. There were only 3 firemen trucks on the side of DNS, for 40 minutes. 10. They [firemen] were hidding the dead bodies inside (and I work at this building and I know its [inner] layout well - to declare afterward, as it become clear, a less number of the dead bodies." Translated by A.Kopylov. Is it enough to qualify as Original reporting? -- Svobo 05:12, 23 January 2006 (UTC)


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Alexander Kopylov (Svobo) journalist, economist, civil activist.

Blog http://kopylov-a.livejournal.com/

Email prof.svobo@gmail.com

The First Wikinews Published
Finally, my very first article has been published in Wikinews!

I devoted my last two days and two nights for those, who died innocentlly on Jan,16 searhing for the evidences, contacting eyewitnesses, translating a huge mounting of text.. to reveal the truth about life and death, unjustice and saving love - to the world...

Special thanx to those who have contributed a lot and make this news possible! Jason Safoutin (did his best!), Edbrown05, Brian McNeil\Brianmc, Dmitry Kozlov. http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Vladivostok_fire_witnesses_dispute_official_death_toll_of_nine%2C_claim_at_least_50

Опубликовал статью в Wikinews (англ.) http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Vladivostok_fire_witnesses_dispute_official_death_toll_of_nine%2C_claim_at_least_50 http://kopylov-a.livejournal.com/55444.html

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Australian Defence Minister resigns

January 21, 2006 Australian Defence Minister, Liberal Senator Robert Hill, 59, has resigned after almost a quarter of a century in Parliament and confirmed he will retire from the Senate. The Senator has been the longest serving leader of his party in the Upper House since Federation.

Robert Murray Hill was elected to the Senate for South Australia in 1980. Having spent 13 years in Opposition, he was appointed Environment Minister when the Howard Government was elected in 1996. He will serve out his final few days in the Senate in the next session of parliament.

Prime Minister Howard said Senator Hill's exit after almost 25 years in Parliament and 13 years as Liberal Senate leader would be a "huge loss" for the Government.

Mr Hill said it was good to make a decision to leave parliament before he was forced out for other reasons.

At his farewell media conference on Friday, he said he has "no regrets." Questioned over the wisdom of Australia's involvement in the Iraq war he said, "...there was a time where we saw defence simply in terms of almost hiding behind the moat. We no longer do that."

"We go out and we look after Australia's interests and we become part of an international community that's interested in security and stability, and we're prepared to take risks to achieve those goals," he said.

The Australia Defence Association praised his efforts as defence minister, a position he has held since November, 2001. "He's easily the best defence minister of the Howard government and the best, along with (Labor's) Robert Ray since the 1970s," Defence Association spokesman Neil James said.

It's widely expected that Robert Hill will become the next Australian representative to the United Nations in New York. Senator Hill yesterday articulated a case for reform of the global body. "This Government believes in collective security, it believes in the commitments of the charter, but it would like to see the UN work efficiently and effectively," he said.

The most likely candidates for the defence portfolio are Finance Minister Nick Minchin and Health Minister Tony Abbott.

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Experts fear for the health of London whale

January 21, 2006

Experts are now fearing the worst for the northern bottle-nosed whale that is still swimming in the Thames river London. The Thames Whale was first spotted on Thursday, with widespread media coverage yesterday and huge crowds of spectators attracted to the river.

There were hopes that the whale was heading back out to sea, but these were dashed by a fresh sighting of the whale from Albert bridge in Chelsea.

Experts say that the whale is now looking increasingly distressed, with numerous cuts to its body. The whale has already been partly beached on a few occasions, but each time has managed to free itself.

According to blogger Andrew (eyedropper.co.uk), a BBC picture editor, if the whale should die it would be up to Admiral the Lord Boyce GCB OBE 'to arrange for a tooth to be extracted and sent to the Natural History Museum, and a proper burial to be made'.

Related Stories

 * Whale spotted in river Thames, Central London, Wikinews, January 20, 2006.


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Photo
It would be great to get a photo of this - there are loads of people out in London with digital cameras.

I've asked this person and this person if they'd consider uploading their photos to the Wikimedia Commons...

Frankie Roberto 10:43, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

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The title needs changing to River Thames rather than Thames River, Thames river infers the whale was found in one of the many Thames rivers. Not true and looks naff.


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Kosovo president Ibrahim Rugova dies

January 21, 2006 Kosova President Ibrahim Rugova, the leader for many years of Kosova in the most difficult process and struggle for country’s independence, died Saturday.

Kosovo President Ibrahim Rugova passed away in his home in Prishtina at 11:38, close to his family members, his personal doctor, a US doctor, and his close staff. President Rugova suffered from lung cancer, diagnosed in end of August 2005. He fought his illness for months with an exceptional moral courage. The PM had called an urgent Cabinet session at 3 pm, sources say.

The death was a few days before the United Nations was to begin a Belgrade-Pristina discussions relating to the road to independence for the province. Rugova, 61, has no definite successor in his faction-ridden Democratic League of Kosovo or head of the Kosovo negotiating team, which he was expected to lead. Western diplomats are worried about a possible messy power struggle.

The Sorbonne-educated literature professor was the architect of the decade-old passive resistance since 1989, when former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic stripped the province of autonomy.

A statement issued by President Rugova’s Office said the public would be advised shortly concerning the details related to the events to honor the President.

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Talk:Syria voices support of Iran's nuclear program

POV concern
At present there's the sentence:
 * Iran states that its nuclear program does not violate international law or treaty obligations under the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and that it will not abandon its enrichment efforts.

i'm fairly sure that no state (including US, EU countries) have made any unambiguous claim that Iran's program violates Iran's obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, for the obvious reasons that US, France, UK quite clearly are violating the Treaty. There are only statements to the media about informal worries that Iran might be planning to build nuclear weapons. These are something like hints or innuendos, not outright statements.

The present version of this sentence Iran states that is only necessary if there is at least one authority that claims that the statement is false. Otherwise, it's a fact according to NPOV - since noone disputes it.

So i'm putting this which seems to be getting towards NPOV:
 * Iran notes that its nuclear program is civilian and consistent with Article IV of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which establishes the inalienable right of all the Parties to the Treaty to develop research, production and use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, and that it in line with Article IV, it will not abandon its enrichment efforts.

Boud 14:23, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Did you read any of the sources? Because thats where the statements came from. Please read the sources. Jason Safoutin 14:37, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * The BBC source states they claim NPT compliance. What I haven't worked out from a brief inspection of the sources is who exactly would decide if they were in compliance or not. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:48, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Guess: the IAEA? Jason Safoutin 14:56, 21 January 2006 (UTC)


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Rescue teams try to save London whale

January 21, 2006

Rescue teams are attempting to save the life of the whale which has been swimming in the London Thames river over the past few days. The northern bottle-nosed whale, which had gotten weaker and weaker, became beached this afternoon. Rescue teams quickly moved the whale onto an inflatable pontoon, keeping the whale in water but with its blowhole above the surface.

Experts then tried to evaluate the condition of the whale by performing ultrasound checks to see how much blubber and blood the whale has, and by taking some blood tests. The breathing rate of the whale was around four inhalations per minute.

The pontoon is currently being towed by a barge slowly downstream.

The British Divers Marine Life Rescue team lead the rescue effort. They hope to be able to release the whale in as deep water as possible, but only if it is in good enough health. If the whale is considered to be in too weak a condition to survive, it may be euthanised, experts have said.

The rescue mission is being filmed by television crews, including from helicopters, and broadcast live onto rolling news channels. Mark Stevens, a member of the British Divers Marine Life Rescue team reported on the situation live on TV using a mobile phone, direct from the scene where he was standing in the water. At one point he asked the BBC to tell their helicopter to fly higher, as the noise made the whale's breathing rate temporarily go up.

The whale sightings have captivated the British public, with spectators lining the banks of the Thames to take photographs and try and spot the whale. However, the inital surprise at seeing the whale soon turned to concern as experts fear for the whale's long term health. Initial plans to transfer the whale from the barge "Crossness" to a deep-sea ship have been abandoned as the condition of the whale deteriorates, but it is still hoped to release the whale in the Thames estuary.

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Talk:Rescue teams try to save London whale

Probably best to wait for more developments before publishing this??

Original Reporting

 * Watching the live BBC News 24 footage, including interviews with the British Divers Marine Life Rescue team.Frankie Roberto 14:27, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

DEAD

WHAT? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! --169.244.143.115 19:23, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes...dead. I am so sad... I admit I cried. What a tradgedy. Jason Safoutin 19:29, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

you don't sound sad at all! --169.244.143.115 19:31, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, to be fair, you can't really express emotion over the internet Blu rav3 23:31, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

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I don't get it. From the main page, the link says the whale died. But here, this information isn't said anywhere. What's wrong?

 * The page was reverted as we prefer to issue new stories rather than updating old ones... I'll update the front page now. Frankie Roberto 23:46, 21 January 2006 (UTC)


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Maryland Judge throws out law banning gay marriages

January 21, 2006 Judge M. Brooke Murdock of the Baltimore Circuit Court in Maryland struck down a 1973 law banning same-sex marriage yesterday, ruling the measure violated a state constitutional amendment prohibiting sex discrimination.

The decision will not allow gay couples to be immediately eligible for marriage licenses because Murdock stayed the order pending an appeal. The state's attorney general's office filed the appeal right after the ruling was made.

"Although tradition and societal values are important, they cannot be given so much weight that they alone will justify a discriminatory statutory classification," the judge stated in the ruling. "When tradition is the guise under which prejudice or animosity hides, it is not a legitimate state interest."

In making the decision, Judge Murdock wrote, "the court is not unaware of the dramatic impact of its ruling."

Ken Choe, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union's (ACLU) Lesbian and Gay Rights Project, said "men and women were indeed treated differently under the law Judge Murdock struck down. A man can marry a woman, but a woman can't marry a woman. Same-sex couples need the same protections for their families that opposite-sex couples do."

The ACLU hailed the ruling, calling it "a historical step toward allowing same-sex couples to legally marry in Maryland." She considered but dismissed all the state's arguments for the restriction, noting "Prevention of same-sex marriage is not rationally related to the state's interests in promoting stable families and protecting the best interests of children. ... These arguments are illogical and inaccurate."

Governor Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. released a statement saying that that the state will "begin a vigorous appeals process. I firmly believe the institution of marriage is for one man and one woman only."

Governor Ehrlich had sent to Attorney General J. Joseph Curran Jr. (D), a letter in response to the ruling advising him to appeal the decision and offered additional resources to support the appeal.

"We have noted an appeal and think it appropriate that the court stayed the operation of its order," said Kevin J. Enright, a spokesman for Curran, in a statement. "We await having the decision of Maryland's appellate courts."

The Maryland House of Delegates scheduled hearings for January 31, 2006 on proposals dealing with same-sex marriages, including a proposed constitutional amendment.

John Lestitian, a plaintiff in the case, said Murdock's decision was "a step in a very long process. As a 40-year-old man, I should be able to decide who my family is."

"This is such an exciting moment," said Lisa Polyak. Her partner of 24 years, Gita Deane, was a plaintiff in the case. "Our participation in this lawsuit has always been about family protections for our children. Tonight, we will rest a little easier knowing that those protections are within reach."

The equal rights amendment in Maryland's State Constitution was ratified by voters in 1972. The marriage law which defined marriage as only between one man and one woman was approved the following year.

The lawsuit leading to the decision started when nine gay and/or lesbian couples and one individual sued court clerks in five Maryland counties for denying marriage licenses to them, citing legal, financial, and emotional harm. In July of 2004, the ACLU filed the suit challenging the state ban on same-sex marriage.

Same-sex marriages are only legal in the state of Massachusetts in the United States, with the states of Vermont and Connecticut recognizing other civil unions. Hawaii and New Jersey offer some legal protections to same-sex couples, while 13 states have appoved constitutional amendments rejecting recognition of same-sex marriage. Courts in California, New Jersey, New York and Washington State are facing cases on the issue.


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Talk:Experts fear for the health of London whale

Just to be a bit pedantic, if this really is a merge candidate, it is the other story should be merged into this because this is published and has an older start date (see history). Both are from the same contributor, both are fairly well written - although this one is shorter. I think mergeto could be dropped and we have two stories on the same subject for the one day. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:10, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed you are correct. I did not notice that until just now. I am sorry. I should have looked better. Duh! Jason Safoutin 15:14, 21 January 2006 (UTC)


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User talk:Svobo

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Thank you so much! Svobo 15:38, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

fire story
I retire for the evening. This is note to advise you that the authors who are reporting the much higher death toll from the fire, and are now pursued for those reports, is a new and different news report. I imagine too, that the gas line that blew up going into Georgia is also news. Best regards. -Edbrown05 06:04, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will do my best. Best regards. Svobo 06:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for re-englishing of the article about Vladivostok. -Svobo 23:40, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! You did good work on that story and I was happy to clean up the language. Imroy 06:14, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

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This image does not appear to meet fair use guidelines for Wikinews. It does not include an online source. The image appears to be from a competing news source. It does not include correct licensure.

It will be deleted shortly if the Fair Use guidelines cannot be met. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 07:54, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Pls delete it, I will submit another. --Svobo 08:04, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Allow me to explain our Fair Use policy. Wikinews can only accept images which are publicity images, or corporate logos/trademarks, or screen captures for illustration. We can also accept images from IRIN and Crown Copyright (UK). We cannot accept images which are from another news source unless that news source licenses the image freely, such as under the GFDL or Creative Commons. If the image is freely licensed it should be hosted at commons.wikimedia.org.

 * Any image which meets our Fair Use policy must include a uri indicating where the image is from, and requires an appropriate license tag. You can select the license tag quite easily when you upload the image; there is a menu to choose from there. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 08:22, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you. it's helpful information. I'm not sure how to fix a license tag, if it's not chosen initially? --Svobo 08:28, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Select the appropriate tag (see Image copyright tags), and add it to the Image's article. Make sure you also include the full url to the image. -  Amgine | talk en.WN 08:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

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 * Is on WN:DR. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:18, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

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