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Help:Reverting

To revert is to undo all changes made to an article page after a specific time in the past. The result will be that the page becomes identical in content to the page saved at that time. However in the context of the three revert rule, a revert is defined far more broadly as any change to an article that partially or completely goes back to any older version of an article.

A partial revert is accomplished either by an ordinary edit of the current version, or by editing an old version. The former is convenient, for example, for a partial reversion of a recent addition, while the latter is convenient for a partial reversion of a deletion.

Below is some Wikipedia-oriented text on reversion.

Dos

 * See also Wikipedia policy should follow the spirit of Ahimsa

 * Reverting is a decision which should be taken seriously.
 * Reverting is often used for fighting vandalism, or anything very similar to the effects of vandalism.
 * If you are not sure whether a revert is appropriate, discuss it first rather than immediately reverting or deleting.
 * If you feel the edit is unsatisfactory, improve it if possible. Improving may entail factual or grammatical corrections, or style changes such as trimming verbosity. If the material is too nonsensical, trivial, or poorly written to be improved, you may need to revert it completely.
 * You can revert your own edit if you realize that it is wrong (you should have noticed this in the preview, though). Be careful if some other editor has made changes in the interim.

Don'ts

 * Do not simply revert changes that are made as part of a dispute. A revert on the basis of a factual dispute is inappropriate unless, and only unless, you as an editor possess firm, substantive, and objective proof to the contrary. Mere disagreement is not such proof. Be respectful to other editors, their contributions and their points of view. Assume good faith.
 * Try to consider the editor "on the other end" but remember that our duty is to the reader. Though your intentions may be good, don't let superfluous or badly-written material stand in order to avoid slighting its original author. Doing so shirks your duty to the reader.
 * If your material is reverted, don't take it personally. Not every fact, detail, and nuance belongs in an encyclopedia.
 * If the edit you are considering reverting can instead be improved (for example, to avoid weasel words, or to re-phrase in a more NPOV way), then reword, don't revert.
 * Generally there are misconceptions that problematic sections of an article or recent changes are the reasons for reverting or deletion. If they contain valid and encyclopedic information, these texts should simply be edited and improved accordingly.
 * There's sometimes trouble determining whether some claim is true or useful, particularly when there are few people "on board" who are knowledgeable about the topic. In such a case, it's a good idea to raise objections on a talk page; if one has some reason to believe that the author of what appears to be biased material will not be induced to change it, editors have sometimes taken the step of transferring the text in question to the talk page itself, thus not deleting it entirely. This action should be taken more or less as a last resort, never as a way of punishing people who have written something biased. See also Neutral point of view/FAQ
 * If there is or has been a recent poll or similar discussion about the change, do not revert a change made in lack of consensus just because "there is no consensus in favour of the change". Only revert if you actually think the previous version is so much better that you would have supported a proposal for a change in the opposite direction.

How to revert
 rvv edits by 127.0.0.1 to last version by Example
 * Go to the page, click on "history" at the top ("Page history" in some skins), and click on the time and date of the earlier version to which you wish to revert.
 * Then when that page comes up, you'll see something like "(Revision as of 22:19 Aug 15, 2002)" below the title and beneath "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia".
 * Verify that you've selected the correct version, and click to edit the page, as you would normally. Important: in the case of vandalism, take the time to make sure that you are reverting to the last version without the vandalism; there may be multiple consecutive vandal edits, sometimes interspersed with constructive edits.
 * You'll get a warning, above the edit box, about editing an out-of-date revision.
 * After heeding the warning, save the page. Be sure to add the word "revert" and a brief explanation for the revert to the edit summary. Some Wikipedians abbreviate "revert" as "rv". A useful addition is to Wikilink the usernames associated with the versions you are reverting from and to. For example, a good edit summary when reverting vandalism would be rv edits by 127.0.0.1 to last version by Example The clickable links are created by entering  User:Username  (replacing Username with the real IP address or Username, for logged-in users). Thus for an edit summary that reverts vandalism you would type exactly:
 * Click on "history" again. A new line will have been added, and you'll be able to verify (by clicking on "last") that you undid the vandalism plus all subsequent bona fide edits, if any.  You are responsible for redoing all the subsequent edits which you undid.
 * Hint: In a vandalism case where sections of text were simply deleted and then subsequent edits were made by others, it may be easier for you to cut and paste those missing sections of text back in, than to revert and then re-do the edits.
 * Check the contribution history of the user who vandalized the article. (Click on their IP address or username. That will often bring you directly to their User contribution page, if you clicked on their IP address. If you are able to click on their username, that will bring you to their User page. In the lower left-hand corner, there is a toolbox with a "User contributions" link. Click that.)  If this user is vandalizing many articles, please report them to Vandalism in progress.

Reverts do not cause edit conflicts
Reverts never cause an edit conflict - if between the moment you begin the revert process, and the moment you click Post (or Save page), someone else edits and saves the page, their edits will be silently overwritten by the reverted version (but still appear in the page history). So beware of reverting high-traffic pages! Conversely, if it looks like someone has deleted your edits, consider whether it may be one of these unfortunate revision conflicts.

Undo
Instead of removing all changes after a certain version, the latest versions of MediaWiki allow a single edit to be undone. To do this, view the diff for the edit, and click on 'undo' above the newer version. The software will attempt to create an edit page with a version of the article in which the undone edit doesn't exist but all later edits are retained. There is a default edit summary, but it can be changed.

This feature removes the need to manually redo useful changes since the "undone" edit. However, it will fail if undoing the edit would conflict with later edits. For example, if edit 1000 adds a paragraph and edit 1005 modifies that paragraph, it will be impossible to automatically undo edit 1000. In this case, you must determine how to resolve the problem manually.

Rollback
On the user contributions page, admins have the additional "rollback" links at lines which are the last edit made by anybody to that article. Some user scripts (mentioned below) also give users the ability to rollback with an automated edit summary. The rollback link is also shown on the diff page when viewing the difference between any version of the page and the most recent one. Clicking on the link reverts to the previous edit not authored by the last editor, with an automatic edit summary of "Reverted edits by X (talk) to last version by Y," which marks the edit as "minor." If, between loading the User Contributions page and pressing "rollback," someone else edits or rolls back the page, or if there was no previous editor, you will get an error message.

The rollback link on the diff page is somewhat misleading, because reversion is not necessarily to the old version shown (the diff page may show the combined result of edits including some by other editors, or only part of the edits the rollback button would revert). To see the changes the rollback button would revert, view the corresponding diff page.

Rollbacks should be used with restraint, in part because they leave no explanation for the revert in the edit summary. Rolling back a good-faith edit without explanation may be misinterpreted as "I think your edit was no better than vandalism and reverting it doesn't need an explanation." Some editors are sensitive to such perceived slights; if you use the rollback feature other than for vandalism, it's polite to leave an explanation on the article talk page or on the talk page of the user whose edit(s) you reverted.

Shortcut

 * Sam Hocevar's godmode-light.js script adds functionality similar to the admin rollback links described below. More info at WP:US.
 * The vandal edit can also be reverted using popups or monobook-suite.

Bot rollback
In cases of flood vandalism, admins may choose to hide vandalism from recent changes. To do this, add &bot=1 to the end of the URL used to access a user's contributions. For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=SomePersistentVandal&bot=1.

When the rollback links on the contributions list are clicked, the revert, and the original edit that you are reverting will both be hidden from recent changes unless you click the "bots" link to set hidebots=0. The edits are not hidden from contributions lists, page histories or watchlists. The edits remain in the database and are not removed, but they no longer flood Recentchanges. The aim of this feature is to reduce the annoyance factor of a flood vandal with relatively little effort. This should not be used for reverting a change you just don't like, but is meant only for massive floods of simple vandalism.

Reasons
Revert wars are usually considered harmful for the following reasons:

 * 1) They cause ill-will between users and negatively destabilize articles.
 * 2) They make the page history less useful, waste space in the database.
 * 3) Some editors are sensitive, and to them a revert is a bit like a slap in the face: "I worked hard on those edits, and someone just rolled it all back."
 * 4) They make it hard for other people to contribute, and flood recent changes and watchlists.

Editors should not revert simply because there is disagreement. Instead explore alternate methods like raising objections on a talk page, or following the processes in dispute resolution.

Three revert rule

 * Main article: Wikipedia:Three revert rule

As a means to limit edit wars, Wikipedia policy states that you may not revert any article more than three times in the same day. This is a hard limit, not a given right. Attempts to circumvent the three-revert rule (such as making a fourth revert just after 24 hours) are strongly discouraged, and may trigger the need for remedies such as your being blocked from editing.

Explain reverts
When a revert is necessary, let people know why you reverted. The person whose material you reverted may then be able remake their edit, but fixing whatever problem it is that you've identified.

Explaining reverts also helps other people. For example, it lets people know whether they need to even view the reverted version (in the case of, e.g., "rv page blanking"). Because of the lack of non-verbal communication online, if you don't explain things clearly people may assume the wrong thing, and that's one of the possible causes for edit wars. Explaining reverts also helps people who are using the encyclopedia article and checking the edit history to see to what extent they can rely on the information in the article.

If your reasons for reverting are too complex to explain in the edit summary, drop a note on the Talk page. A nice thing to do is to drop the note on the Talk page first, and then revert, rather than the other way round. Sometimes the other person will agree with you and revert for you before you have a chance. Conversely, if someone reverts your change without apparent explanation, you may wish to wait a few minutes to see if they explain their actions on the article's talk page or your user talk page.

Exceptions
Edits that don't contribute to edit warring are generally considered to be exceptions to the 3-revert rule. Such edits may include reverts of obvious vandalism, reverts of banned users, or removal of potentially libelous text. See Wikipedia:Three-revert rule#Exceptions for a fuller explanation.

Please request protection rather than reverting. Violation of this rule may lead to protection of the page on the version preferred by the non-violating party; blocking; or investigation by the Arbitration Committee.

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Heavy rain causes flooding across the UK

July 20, 2007 Heavy rain and thunderstorms have hit several areas of the UK today, causing flash floods and disrupting some transport links. The UK Met Office have issued severe weather warnings.

In London, parts of Victoria Station were inches deep in water, with rain pouring in through leaks in the roof. Many shops were forced to close, and many trains were cancelled or delayed. On the London Underground network, the Circle and District lines were suspended due to flooding, with several other lines experiencing major delays, and at least nine stations having to close.

Many of the worst-hit areas have seen schools closed, and driving conditions have been deteriorating, with police advising extra caution whilst travelling on roads affected by standing water.

The flash flooding follows a month of unusually wet weather, in which several areas have had to evacuate people to temporary shelters set up in schools and community centres.

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Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry reinstated as Chief Justice of Pakistan

July 21, 2007 The 13 member larger bench of the Supreme Court of Pakistan reinstated Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry as Chief Justice of Pakistan on Friday through a short order. The verdict was reached 10 to 3 in favor of Justice Chaudhry.

Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry through a panel of senior lawyers headed by Barrister Aitezaz Ahsan filed a constitutional petition challenging his suspension as Chief Justice of Pakistan by President General Pervez Musharraf on March 9 this year. Musharraf has indicated that he will accept the court's decision.

The Pakistani lawyer community hailed the decision of the court. The Peshsawar High Court Bar Association organized even organized a procession as a mark of celebrations.

Chaudhry, an opponent of Musharraf, had been accused of abuse of power but the charges were quashed by the court's decision, seen as a blow to Musharraf's government.


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Suspect in Colorado anti-evolution death threats case is missing

July 21, 2007

Young Earth Creationist Menachem "Michael" Korn, suspected of sending death threats to various biology faculty and others at the University of Colorado at Boulder, is apparently missing or on the lam. Although the police said they will not name the individual in question until the person is arrested, previous reports and comments by faculty and staff at the university made it clear that Korn is the man in question.

Action was taken recently after the threatening behavior escalated and the letters passed beyond being a nuisance. It had gotten to the point where one graduate student and one faculty member were scared about entering the department out of concern for their safety. Korn, a former Messianic Jew who now self-identifies as Christian, allegedly sent various anti-evolution letters to faculty at the university.

Pictures of Korn have now been distributed to faculty with instructions to call police if Korn is spotted. Before going missing, Korn had refused to respond in detail to media requests for his side of the story, but he had sent emails to the Denver Post and has sent copies of those emails to other media sources, such as Wired. Korn later contacted Wired by telephone where he claimed to be unavailable since he was "traveling" and refused to discuss the letters in detail but spent most of the discussion focusing on claimed flaws in evolution.

A university spokesperson has speculated that one reason police have been reluctant to formally name Korn is that the threats may have not crossed the line of what legally constitute death threats. For example, Korn said that "He [pastor Jerry Gibson] said that every true Christian should be ready and willing to take up arms to kill the enemies of Christian society. But I believe it is far more effective to take up a pen to kill the enemies of Truth." Jeffry Mitton, a professor at the University, has filed for a restraining order against Korn.

Although the United States has had vigorous debate over the Creation-evolution controversy, and anti-evolutionists have engaged in threats and physical violence in some heavily Islamic countries such as Turkey, to date there have been no serious violent incidents in the United States. One possible exception is the unconfirmed attack on Paul Mirecki, a professor at the University of Kansas, in 2005. However, this may have been in response to other comments made by Mirecki that were about the more general culture wars and the Religious right in the United States and not about evolution in particular.


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Talk:Violence erupts after game at 2007 FIFA U-20 World Cup

"Where?" is an important part in writing an article. No location for incident is given. --SVTCobra 14:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

the previous version was substantiated by links to the Argentine article where the reporter interviewed witnesses. Considering it was not a Chilean source I don't understand the censorship.

This version looks to whitewash the role of the Toronto police who are under investigation for excessive use of force in a situation that was not warranted.

Please update your version

Since I don't know spanish, there was no way I could verify thee accuracy of what was published. Kingjeff 18:07, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Additional categories
Category:Toronto, Ontario and Category:Ontario should be added. Kingjeff - (talk) 04:02, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅. Cirt - (talk) 22:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


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Tour de France: Tom Boonen wins stage 12

July 20, 2007 Tom Boonen of Belgium has won stage 12 of the 2007 Tour de France. Boonen edged out Erik Zabel and Robbie Hunter, the winner of yesterday's stage, in a tight sprint.

Boonen continues to wear the green jersey, which has been his since stage 6. The green jersey is award for the points classification, which is often considered the sprinters competition.

Boonen was among the favorites in this category in both 2005 and 2006, but ended up withdrawing during the Tour. Zabel has won the points classification six times, all in a row (1996 through 2001). Last year's winner was Robbie McEwen, but he retired after stage 8 with a knee injury.

Michael Rasmussen of Denmark retains the overall lead, finishing the stage with the peleton. Saturday's stage is a time-trial, which is considered a weakness for Rasmussen as he defends his 2'35" lead.

Pierrick Pierrick Fédrigo and Amets Txurruka had a two-man break-away. They led by as much as 11 minutes with 85 km to go. But as so often happens, the peleton caught up with them just before the finish, and neither of them could hang on for a top ten finish.

The 178.5 km stage 12, from Montpellier to Castres, is the second of two transition stages between the Alps and the Pyrenees, with just one category 2 climb.

The top ten standings in the overall, remain unchanged as they all finished with the peleton.


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crazy soccer yobs. What do you expect? 204.52.215.13 17:08, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

This is definitely a South American problem. Kingjeff 01:17, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Suspect in Colorado anti-evolution death threats case is missing

Please sort the sources with the most recent listed first and oldest listed last. Thanks. --SVTCobra 17:36, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3543/1659/1600/MAKOM2.8.jpg is his passport photo, not PD by Israeli Gov't law, but certainly fair use. Might be worth cropping, in a case where we're dealing with a criminal with a BOLO anyways. Sherurcij 05:59, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


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Hanoi hosts 2007 International Mathematical Olympiad

July 21, 2007 The 48th International Mathematical Olympiad (IMO) is taking place from July 19 to July 31 in Hanoi, Vietnam, the first South-east Asian country to host the annual mathematics competition for high school students since it began in 1959.

This year the actual competition will take place July 25-26, with jury meetings before those dates and excursions and a closing ceremony in the days following. The Olympiad challenges mathematically gifted youngsters with a series of problems submitted by IMO member states, and awards individual prizes.

More than 90 countries are members of the IMO, which is held in a different country each year. Other Asian countries that have hosted the Olympiad in the past include Japan (2003), South Korea (2000), Taiwan (1998), and China (1990). Madrid, Spain will host the 2008 IMO.

The website of the 2007 contest displays an animated solution to the Tower of Hanoi puzzle, which involves moving disks stacked on pegs without placing a bigger disk on top of a smaller one.


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Rocket launcher found in yard of New Jersey home

July 20, 2007 Police in Jersey City, New Jersey in the United States say that they have found a 20 year old rocket launcher tube, capable of shooting down planes, on the front yard of a home that is reported to be directly in the path of Newark Liberty International Airport. Police say that the weapon was not in operating condition. "I was shocked. I read it and it and [there was the word missile] on it. There was little 'missile' writing on it. I was afraid because of what people want to do to this country," said Niranjana Besai who was born in India and has lived in the U.S. for 25 years who discovered the weapon at about 8:00 a.m EDT (UTC-4) when she was leaving the house to go to work.

According to Modern Firearms, the weapon can only be used once, saying it "is a disposable, single shot, recoilless weapon" and can hit a target with a range of "up to 150 meters [to use] against moving targets, and about 300 meters against stationary targets."

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives confirms that the weapon is of military issue and has been identified as a model AT-4, primarily used as an anti-tank weapon. It is manufactured by Saab Bofors Dynamics in Sweden. No explosive devices have been located at the scene. The Associated Press says that the weapon was made to be used during training missions and anti-tank artillery. The U.S. Army at Fort Monmouth in Oceanport, New Jersey is now in possession of the weapon.

"The device has been turned over to United States Army officials at Fort Monmouth," said Jersey City police in a statement to the press which also confirmed the weapon was a U.S. military issued launcher and was "no longer operable and not considered to be a hazard to public safety."

It is not known how the weapon ended up in Besai's yard. The Joint Terrorism Task Force and FBI have confiscated the weapon, before turning it over to the army, and they are investigating the incident.


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Talk:Rocket launcher found in yard of New Jersey home

Capable of shooting down planes? From what I understand from the article, it's an Anti-Tank missile, and from 'pedia, one with no guidance. Clarification needed? Maybe it could destroy an aircraft on the ground? Neebs 18:52, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * . The launcher can shoot shoulder-fired rockets and is capable of taking down an aircraft. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:54, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Rockets, by definition, lack have guidance, and it would be near impossible to shoot down an aircraft with an AT-4. Futhermore, the launcher is defunct. The line about it being capable of shooting down aircraft should be removed both in the article and on the front page. It is needlessly alarming, quite inaccurate, and journalistically irresponsible. 64.162.28.254 21:37, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The AT-4 is unguided, but if you are able to hit a moving target, you can take down any aircraft with it. It would require an experienced and skilled operator, according to my coworker who is in the army reserves and has trained with this equipment. Certainly, you cannot take down a jet that is at cruising altitude, but shortly after take-off it is possible, though difficult. --SVTCobra 01:08, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You can shoot at planes with guns...and if you can do that, there is no stopping you from trying to hit a plane with one of these. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:16, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, Airliners, jets have been shot at with launchers in Iraq and Israel. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:17, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Ever heard of 'leading the target'? Either way, this should elaborate on whether or not this still has a missile in it, as the article doesn't explicitly state so ("not in operational condition" could simply mean it had been broken). If it wasn't (which seems to be the case), "weapon" should be replaced with "tube". Single use means once it's used, it's junk. Unless the terrorist was planning on throwing the thing at a plane, it can't be called a weapon any more.--Dante 08:35, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * A gun is still a gun, even if you run out of bullets.

 * First paragraph: Police say that the weapon was not in operating condition.. Third: "is a disposable, single shot, recoilless weapon." Second to last: "no longer operable and not considered to be a hazard to public safety.". DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 08:39, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Polish homosexuals flee persecution by new right-wing government

Title of the article
I have added a question mark to the title of the article. In previous form, it might suggest that it has been proven that Polish gays really emigrate due to political reasons (and not because substantially higher salaries). The article in left-sided Guardian cites only one side of the issue (some representants of Polish LGBT movement), not any Polish officials or even Polish independent experts. Mr Biedroń can say whatever he want, he does not cite any reliable survey. I think that in order to maintain minimal NPOV, we should at least put a question mark in the title. --Derbeth 18:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Would 'supposed homophobia' be more appropriate? The question mark just doesn't sound correct in the title in my opinion. --Vessol 16:04, 20 July 2007 (EST)

Given the issue of "investigating the tellitubies" for tinky-winky being gay, and so forth, a questionmark seems inappropriate. Homophobia is present in any country, any place, and Poland was named the worst in Europe by the EU, or something to that effect, anyway. Basically, I would remove the questionmark from the title. 82.152.157.75 20:54, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Well, Poland may be a bit homophobic, but there is no evidence that gays leave Poland for the UK mostly due to homophobia. Earnings in Great Britain are significantly higher than in Poland. Mr. Biedroń hasn't got anything confirming his words; British newspapers show mostly his interpretation of facts. --Derbeth 22:00, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

 * I am also not fond of a title with a question mark. However, the original title is too "absolute" and suggests that they are all doing so. How about something like "Homophobia drives some Polish homosexuals to emigrate" or similar? --SVTCobra 22:18, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

 * The actual title does not correspond with the content - the title proposed by SVTCobra would be much better (and maybe "Homophobia in Poland drives some Polish gays to emigrate to UK"


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US Boy Scouts and hikers airlifted from wildfire in Utah

July 20, 2007 On Friday, a group of hikers and 18 were airlifted by helicopters away from a  in, Utah. The hikers and scouts escaped into a rough rocky area to keep a safe distance from the dangerous wildfire after it advanced on their campground.

The wildfire started in a campground in, 85 miles from , and has burned 13,000 acres across 20 square miles as of Friday. The fire has burned a campground and motel, and forced the evacuation of all campgrounds and cabins in its path.


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Ukraine: media riddles around the phosphorous cloud

July 21, 2007 The available information about the phosphorous cloud following the railway accident in the Ukraine last Monday is becoming more and more cryptic.

The political involvement of most media and other factors are causing contradictions among official sources that are making press work extremely hard. Moreover, no one is permitted to enter the accident location. The site of the accident was closed to visitors following the injury of three TV journalists who got too close.

Location of the cloud
TV channel Novyj Kanal translated a telephonic interview with officers from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, during which the existence of any cloud whatsoever was firmly denied. Immediately after the interview, a press conference by the mayor of, Mr. Leonid Chernovezkij, announced that starting next Monday a daily report about the movements of the cloud will be available to the population. The service will be provided by the Kiev administration.

In an interview with TV channel UT-1, an officer of the ecological service admitted that they have no real data about the area closer to the accident, because not even government officers are permitted to reach it. The officer said that most data about the hypothetical movements of the cloud (if the cloud exists) are made based on computer simulations they receive from Russian vendors, because no such simulation model is currently available in the Ukraine. The closest available on spot measures are taken in areas located several kilometers away from the epicentre.

Removal operation
In the same press release, the Mayor of Kiev also announced that no transport of any dangerous material will be allowed in the town area. The removal by railway of the phosphor containers involved in the accident was originally planned for today. It is unclear how Kiev’s transit refusal may affect this operation, or whether the mayor has the authority to block national traffic on the railways.

According to the Press Manager of the Ministry for Emergency Situations, Mr. Igor Krol', four containers will be lifted and put back on the rails today. Five containers have already been righted. However, weather may affect the operations, as violent storms and very strong winds are expected in the area. This is going to introduce a serious risk factor for the phosphor that still remains on the ground. The contaminating products are currently insulated from the air by means of pillows made of air and foam; a strong wind may cause new emergencies by even just partially removing such insulation structures.

Health consequences
Various TV channels report one of the firemen who first arrived on location to be in very critical conditions. The channels give no exact figure about the number of people seeking help in hospitals, the media simply report the flux to be uninterrupted. A medical doctor in a TV interview for Novij Kanal said people are mostly in panic, but not really ill. At late evening a press release from the Ministry for Emergency Situations gives the following figures: 184 people, among them 52 children, 14 people belonging in the emergency squads who managed the accident, 3 medical operators that went to assist people in the polluted area.

Polemics are mounting about the way in which the emergency has been managed. The president of the Ozhidov village Council (the worst hit village) declared in a TV interview for Novij Kanal that they were immediately forbidden to drink water, but never were given any medicine or fresh water, neither were they told what they could use for first aid.

President says "no cloud"
President issued a couple of official communications about the "absence of any need to declare the accident area as ecologically damaged" and added that he has the intention to invite Polish experts on location, to have an independent verification. He invited the population of the affected area "not to frighten foreign investors". The passage of the president to the "no cloud" front may prelude to a less contradictory official information.

Yushchenko issued an official call to speed up the closure of the atomic power plants on July 20. Immediately afterwards, he left the country with his family for an unofficial visit to Poland, which will be followed by an official visit to Germany. He is expected to travel to Germany on the evening of July 21.

The Ukraine Procuror General, Mr. Aleksandr Medvedenko, declared to the press that he has visited the accident site together with the President, and that all necessary measures are being taken, both for the cleanup of the accident and the defense of the civilian population. He notes that "it takes courage to work there, for the personnel of the Ministry for Emergency Situations". He announces that a complex cycle of medical care is being planned for about 1500 children of the affected area.

In the same interview, the Procuror General announced that the Government of Kazakhstan will accept the phosphor still remaining (the goods were originally from Kazakhstan). However, in the same time period, the director of Kazphosphat (the vendor of the materials) declared in an interview to the newspaper Segodnja that he gathers that "the phosphor will be stocked in the Ukraine, because it makes no sense to transfer it back. Moreover, you can hardly imagine that Russia would accept the passage of such a dangerous damaged load on their railways".


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Talk:Ukraine: media riddles around the phosphorous cloud

I plan to end the job tomorrow morning, have to add sources and at least try and check some of this "media fog". Obviously anyone is welcome to take up the fight, yet I'm afraid you'll have a hard life you cannot read ukr/ru sources. --Bèrto 'd Sèra 21:48, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, Bèrto. Obviously, this will stay in development as there are no sources yet. But don't forget to "bump" the date to the 21st when you finish it tomorrow. --SVTCobra 23:27, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


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please to add interwikilinks to fr:Tour de France cycliste 2007 : 2e étape and pl:Gert Steegmans wygrał 2. etap Tour de France 2007 --Trek00 23:06, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe we already have those links. Cheers, --SVTCobra 23:15, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
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please to add pl:Fabian Cancellara wygrał 3. etap Tour de France 2007 --Trek00 23:12, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
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Final Harry Potter book goes on sale

July 21, 2007 The final book in the series, , has gone on sale today. The book was launched simultaneously across the world.

The book launched first in the UK, where the book went on sale from midnight. Fans in one central London bookshop started joining the queue from 10:30 p.m., which soon reached the door of the shop and out onto the street. The book chain Waterstone's held 'Harry Potter parties', giving out free glasses of wine and snacks. The mood was good-natured and jolly, with some fans dressed up in costume.

New Zealand fans of the series had a launch time of 11.01 a.m. (NZST). Due to high competition among major retail chains, the book was being sold for as little as 32.99 at Whitcoulls; a profit margin of four cents with each book sold. The recommended retail price was NZ$55.00. Many supermarkets in the UK cut prices even further as a publicity stunt with, for example, selling copies at a loss, at about 1/4 of the recommended retail price.

It was also an early release for Australian fans of the series, at 9.01 a.m. (Sydney). A Sydney Borders store had a line reaching out halfway across the street. In Brisbane City, Borders had a line from the shop, down the street and around the corner.

150 fans in New Zealand's capital, Wellington, were waiting outside a Border's bookstore at 8.00 a.m. to be some of the first to get their hands on a copy. A bookstore nearby, Dymocks, also had a large crowd, an estimated 100 people were waiting. One person arriving there at 6.30 a.m. At one New Zealand Whitcoulls store, they had a entertainer/magician keeping fans entertained while waiting for 11.01 a.m. In Germany, however, some bookshops were disappointed with the turnout for the Harry Potter book launch events.

The Harry Potter series has already sold 325 million copies worldwide. 1.3 million of those were sold in New Zealand, a quarter of New Zealand's population. The Wikipedia article on the latest book became disabled for editing by unregistered and newly registered users within 5 minutes of the book's release.

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The cool thing was that at Whitcoulls, I hadn't preordered or anything, I had turned up to take photographs. But I was able to skip the line and take one as 'magicians' handed them out to people wanting them. I then owned by own copy at 11.05. --Nzgabriel | Talk 00:13, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


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My OR was "At one New Zealand Whitcoulls store, they had a entertainer/magician keeping fans entertained while waiting for 11.01 a.m.." - I know this because I was there and I could see him. --Nzgabriel | Talk 00:34, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Simutaneously?
Or is rolling around the world as midnite strikes in each time zone? --SVTCobra 00:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Whatever, I don't think I am getting involved with this story. --SVTCobra 00:46, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well it was around midnight in Britain, but it was 11.01 a.m. in New Zealand and that's what I keep hearing anyway. --Nzgabriel | Talk 01:37, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

It was released at the same time all around the world. It was 12:01 for Br and whatever time that equaled in other countries. CommanderOne 08:08, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * But the release was also midnight in US - that's not the same tame as in Britain. --SVTCobra 12:25, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Worldwide
Would be good to get some translations (both ways) with the Nederlands version of this. The 'worldwide' angle is quite nice. Frankie Roberto 01:30, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Videos
Anyone seen videos of people yelling out the ending to people waiting in line? Nyarlathotep 12:35, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Lol, no. --Nzgabriel | Talk 23:32, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


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Lindsay Lohan surrenders to police

July 21, 2007 On Thursday afternoon, 21-year-old actress Lindsay Lohan turned herself in to the Beverly Hills Police Department to face charges of misdemeanor hit-and-run and the suspicion of driving under the influence. Accompanied by her lawyer, Lohan was fingerprinted and photographed by police.

On May 26 of this year, Lohan had crashed her car into a curb and hedge on Sunset Boulevard and received minor injuries. She was then driven to a Century City hospital in a friend's car. The Beverly Hills Police tracked her down at the hospital where they checked her blood-alcohol level, which was found to be above California's 0.08 percent legal limit, although the police would not disclose what level Lohan's blood-alcohol was.

After the crash, Lohan checked herself into a rehabilitation center for a 45-day stay, which was her second round of rehabilitation this year.

A court date has been scheduled for August 24, 2007.

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Vietnamese police blamed for deaths of over 100 political protesters

July 21, 2007 An eyewitness report coming out of The Socialist Republic of Vietnam claims that police in Ho Chi Minh City have detained about 200 political protesters and are being blamed for the deaths of over 100. Farmers were protesting against the government's seizure of land and for "free expression."

The protesters peacefully demonstrated outside of a government office on Wednesday, June 27 for the Vietnamese government to return property it has seized and occupied since late 1975, when the South Vietnamese government capitulated. Vietnamese living in the United States are holding memorial services on Sunday, July 22 in a number of cemeteries and memorials that focus on the Vietnam War.

"The crackdown on this demonstration shows Hanoi continues to curtail people's rights. If Vietnam really has joined the community of nations, it should tolerate dissent, not crush it," said deputy Asia director at Human Rights Watch, Sophie Richardson.

Thus far, the Vietnamese government has denied all allegations, stating that they did not detain any of the protesters, that no one was harmed, and that the protesters returned to their homes peacefully and of their own will. However, several Vietnamese in the country have been unable to contact family members who were part of the demonstration.

A Wikinewsie personally witnessed the police roundup of the demonstrators while on the way to a shop near the airport. He claims police began using nets to capture and drag the protesters away, before throwing them in the back of a Vietnamese military vehicle.


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I witnessed the whole incident, as i was going to a shop near Tan Son Nhat airport in Ho Chi Minh City. I have lived there for the past two years, and when i first saw the protesters outside the large stadium in downtown Ho Chi Minh, i knew something bad was going to happen to them, so a took a seat in the cafe across the street and watched thw whole thing unfold. They had signs in Vietnamese, which translated meant "The Government took my house and all my jewlry and all my money in 1975, and they did not give it back. They are still in my house, and they will not give it back to me, or my money." Another one had a sign that said translated "When the government built a road, they took my house to tear it down, but they did not pay me money like they are suposed to. That was 10 years ago, and they have not paid me.  When will they pay me for the house they took from me". The demonstrators were peaceful, and consited of mostly elderly women, but some men and young children. After about 30 minutes, some large military vehicles puled up near the protestors, and several police got out, and started throwing nets over the protestors. Some ran, while others could not because the police were clubbing people as they worled along the croud. They then took the unconcious people and the people stuck in nets and threw them in the back of the military troop transport vehicles. I was in vietnam at the time, and the internet is censored, so i could not file this. A few days ago, uppon reaching the unites states, i heard on the Vietnamese radio stations that the police had killed about 100 of a group of 200 demonstrators protesting outside the large stadium in ho chi minh city on Wed June 27. I wanted to get this story out as soon as i could, because the world needs to know the horrors that the vietnamese government does to it's poeple, so i filed it here - Doan Ngo De. damusicman (Talk Page) 04:28, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

 * I spoke with this person in IRC. I looked over the article and what not. Any objections to this article? DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:20, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

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It was more appropriate for this to be here rather than in the article:

''This story has not shown up on any of the “legal” or state run Vietnamese media for obvious reasons, but it has been picked up by the underground media there, and has been spread through the Vietnamese media in the United States, most specifically on Vietnamese radio stations. However, that was a sight I will never forget, people being trapped in nets like fish, and then just tossed into a back of a military vehicle. Women and several children i would age between 1 and 8 years old were treated the same way. It was absolutely horrific.'' (also by User:67.142.130.45). DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:20, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

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Why do the signs have so much text on them. Usually protests have small, eye-catching catchphrases on them? --Nzgabriel | Talk 07:59, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Depending on the script complexity (I don't know Vietnamese) you can squeeze a lot of information into a short space. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:09, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


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North Korea wants light-water reactors

July 21, 2007 Kim Kye-gwan, the top nuclear negotiator for North Korea told reporters during a press conference today that the country wanted "" for shutting down their. The conference was held after Six-party talks with N. Korea in China ended after three days with no new developments.

"What we're discussing right now is the current nuclear plan, in other words, the Yongbyon nuclear facility stopping its operation and ultimately getting dismantled. For this to be done, a light-water reactor should be brought in," said Kye-gwan to reporters who also added that N. Korea fully intends to "sincerely implement" all steps to shutting down their nuclear program.

According to Kye-gwan, N. Korea will not disclose details of their nuclear weapons program, until it sees that there has been enough "trust" built between the country, the (IAEA) and all parties involved in the six-party talks.

"It's obvious what we're supposed to do, but the other parties don't seem to be ready. It's something to wait and see until confidence is established," added Kye-gwan who also said that "the talks went well, the discussions were good and the results were not bad."

A 1994 agreement between the United States and North Korea says that the country would be given two light-water reactors, if they shut down their nuclear program. That agreement ended in 2002 when North Korea was accused by the U.S. of "secretly" enriching.

More talks with N. Korea are scheduled according to Chinese officials, but it is not known when those talks will take place.

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Kimi Räikkönen will start first for 2007 European Grand Prix, Lewis Hamilton suffers a crash

July 21, 2007 Ferrari driver Kimi Räikkönen won the pole on the FIA Formula-1 2007 European Grand Prix at the Nürburgring, Nürburg, Germany.

Kimi's rival Fernando Alonso split the two Ferraris and will start between Kimi and Felipe Massa.

Lewis Hamilton suffered a serious crash in the third qualifying session after his tire broke in Schumacher's S-curve and he found himself out of the track running at a tangent to the safety wall. Race officials confirmed that Lewis had been "conscious and speaking". Still, there are reasonable doubts about his fitness for the race Sunday.

BMW Sauber team drivers 4th and 5th, Mark Webber from Red Bull-Renault 6th, Heikki Kovalainen from Renault 7th and Toyota's 8th and 9th.

Before this incident Lewis was fifth, but dropped two the tenth place and will probably lose more with the car change if he'll participate in the race. It seemes that his incretible series of 9 consecutive pole finishes have come to an end.

The race will feature Marcus Winkelhock, the German driver replacing Christijan Albers in Spyker.


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Taiwan breaks bicycle parade world record

July 21, 2007

In Taiwan, more than 2,000 people participated in the "Ten Thousand People for BIKE" bicycle parade challenge, organized by Volvic Taiwan and Body Marketing Co., Ltd. to break the previous "Largest Parade of Bicycles" record, which was set at 641 bicycles during a 2006 record attempt in Netherlands.

VIPs invited by the organizers included the current Chinese Nationalist Party legislator Chih-hsiung Huang, the Director of the Department of Public Sports of Sports Affairs Council, Executive Yuan (R.O.C., Taiwan) Tai-lin Peng, and Guinness World Records referee Stuart Claxton. They witnessed the new record, and Deputy Commissioner of Sports Affairs Council, Executive Yuan (R.O.C., Taiwan) Hwang-lang Tsai led out for the starting of this event.

The record-breaking parade crossed five riverside parks (Dajia Section, Yingfeng Section, Guanshan Section, Rainbow Section, and Meiti Section) over an estimated 13.7 kilometres (3.2 km to set the new record, and 10.5 km for free riding).

The previous record was broken when the 642nd rider passed the recording gate near 8:47 a.m.. A 36-year-old engineer from Taoyuan County named Fang-tien Lin was the 642nd lucky rider. In the end, this event created a new record with 1901 riders riding in a great bicycle parade within 1 hour and 8 minutes.


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I participated "Ten Thousand People for BIKE" fully and witnessed the record-breaking time, then I'll add Commons photos for this full record. Brock contact... 14:19, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


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TV channel - REN TV, Russia. Date - 21.07.2007. Time - 15:55-17:30 MSK - "Formula 1": "Race: Live from Nürburgring". Commentator - Alexander Kabanovskiy (live event). --Yuriybrisk 14:27, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

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When I read the title, I first thought that Räikkönen has quit bikin due to yet another doping scandal, and has started a new career as a schlager singer at the 2007 Grand Prix d'Eurovision de la Chanson. -- 80.171.48.178 22:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)


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Pratibha Patil becomes the first woman president of the Republic of India

July 21, 2007 Pratibha Patil has won the 12th Presidential Elections of the Republic of India, becoming the first woman president of the second most populous country in the world.

Patil, 72, previously governor of the state of Rajasthan, had support from the governing coalition. She won approximately two thirds of the vote, almost double the number of votes of her nearest rival Bhairon Singh Shekhawat, who resigned as Vice-President after losing the poll.

Patil was a last-minute candidate who appeared when the coalition that leads the congress and the communist allies could not choose a common candidate. The supporters of Patil hope that her election could bring to the spotlight, problems that affect women in India, such as the high murder rate or domestic violence and abuse.

More than 4,500 members of the Parliament of India and state Legislative Assemblies were eligible to vote for the largely ceremonial office.

Patil was recently the centre of controversy after allegations that a bank gave out cheap loans to her relatives, and for her controversial statements about the Muslim veil.

The President-elect will succeed the 11th President of India, Dr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam, an engineer and scientist. She is expected to be sworn in on July 25 in the Central Hall of Parliament.

The President of India, also called Rashtrapati, is the head of state and first citizen of India and the Supreme Commander of the Indian armed forces. The President's role is largely ceremonial. The powers of the President of India are comparable to those of the monarch of the United Kingdom. The real executive authority in India is vested in the Council of Ministers, headed by the Prime Minister. In 1966, Indira Gandhi became the first and to date the only female prime minister of India.


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Tour de France: Alexander Vinokourov wins stage 13

July 21, 2007 Alexander Vinokourov of Kazakhstan has won stage 13 of the 2007 Tour de France. Vinokourov finished the 54 km individual time trial, centered around Albi, in a time of 1h 12' 06".

Michael Rasmussen of Denmark held on to his overall lead, finishing 11th in the stage. Alejandro Valverde and Iban Mayo both lost ground in the overall. Cadel Evans gained ground on Rasmussen and is now just one minute behind.

This stage provided the first shake-up in the standings in days. Valverde and Mayo, who were previously second and third, have dropped out of the top ten. Pre-Tour favorite, Vinokourov, was able to use his stage victory to return to the top ten for the first time since stage 2.

Rasmussen did better than some expected. Afterwards he said: "I thought I had a fair chance, but from thinking to doing that can be a long way. I was a bit in trouble in the first 15 km, but in the last 30 km I did very well."

Just yesterday, Rasmussen was suspended by the Danish Cycling Federation because of a warning from anti-doping authorities within the Union Cycliste Internationale. There has not been a positive test, but the warning was issued for not keeping UCI informed of his whereabouts.

"I do admit I committed an administrative error," said Rasmussen. "I have already received a warning from the UCI but I am very calm and very relaxed." He continued, "I know a lot of riders who have received warnings for not giving updated information to the UCI. I'm just one out of many and it's just that I happen to have the yellow jersey."

Tomorrow's stage will take the race into the Pyrenees. This stage starts with a category 2 climb out of Mazamet and then follows a relatively calm route via Carcassonne, Limoux and Quillan before taking on the Port de Pailhères (17 km at 7.2%) and a very difficult finish at Plateau-de-Beille (16 km at 7.9%).


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First off, we really appreciate your contribution.

But sometimes users submit an article from somewhere else, not realizing that Wikinews cannot keep copy-and-paste versions of articles which are published elsewhere under a restrictive copyright. An article created in this way is a copyright violation, and Wikinews policy is to erase these even if they are excellent article ideas.

Another problem which sometimes comes up is press releases: Press releases are sometimes excellent sources, but they do not qualify as unbiased news articles so they can't be published as they are. Two key things to remember about press releases is that they're usually written to represent the viewpoint of an involved party (Thus likely running foul of our Neutral Point of View policy). And second, they are generally covered by copyright which can conflict with our open editing approach.

A better way to get an article on an exciting subject published here is to write an original article following the guidelines described in writing an article, or to write a brief explanation of the subject and include the url address of articles or websites to use as sources. If you are part of the story that the article is about, you may also wish to consider requesting an interview rather than writing the article yourself.

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2007 German League Cup: Werder Bremen 1-4 FC Bayern Munich

July 21, 2007

Bayern Munich beat Werder Bremen in Düsseldorf to advance to the League Cup Semi Finals against Stuttgart.

After an early Werder goal from Tim Borowski, the Bavarian club left their mark in the 2nd part of the 1st half with 3 goals from Schweinsteiger, Altıntop and Ribéry. Ribéry converted a penalty for his 2nd goal of the game. At this point, the pace of the game settled down and Andreas Ottl, Sandro Wagner and Christian Lell came on as substitutes.

With 3 Bayern strikers absent due to injury, Head Coach Ottmar Hitzfeld decided to go with 5 midfielders. The formation was 4-3-2-1 'Christmas Tree' shape with Bastian Schweinsteiger and Mark van Bommel behind Striker Miroslav Klose.


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Earthquakes shake Argentina and Brazil

July 21, 2007 Two strong earthquakes shook the north of Argentina and a remote region of the Amazon, in Brazil.

The United States Geological Survey (USGS) reported that the first earthquake took place at 9:27 (-3 UTC) 165 kilometers from the city of Cruzeiro do Sul, in the Amazonian state of Acre and measured 6.1 degrees on the Richter scale.

According to Elio Murilo, sergeant of the fire brigade of Cruzeiro do Sul, the phenomenon was not felt and no injuries or property damages were reported. The telluric movement took place at a depth of 632.9 kilometers.

At 12:34 (-3 UTC) another earthquake with an intensity of 6.2 degrees in Richter scale shook the north of Argentina, and the phenomenon was also felt in some Bolivian cities. According to the USGS, the epicentre was the Jujuy region 140 kilometres east of Tarija (Bolivia) at a depth of 247 kilometers.

The authorities have not reported any injuries or property damage.

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Emaar Properties claims Burj Dubai as world's tallest building

July 22, 2007 United Arab Emirates (UAE) developer Emaar Properties has claimed that their Burj Dubai commercial and residential tower, currently under construction, has become the world's tallest building, reaching a height of 512.1 metres (or 1,680 feet) and 141 storeys.

The current official record holder, Taipei 101 of Taiwan, has a height of 508 metres and 101 storeys, and will retain the "tallest building" title for some time to come. The Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat sets the criteria for achieving height records for buildings, and will not evaluate the Burj Dubai until construction is complete in late 2008. Although final height details have been kept secret by the developer, the Burj Dubai is expected to reach nearly 700 metres in height, with approximately 160 storeys.

The current record holder for the world's tallest free-standing structure is the CN Tower in Toronto, Canada. It has a height of 553 metres. The Burj Dubai, therefore, would claim both records when it is completed. Once the Burj Dubai is completed, it will have required 330,000 cubic metres of concrete, 39,000 tonnes of steel and 142,000 square metres of glass, according to Emaar Properties. The building will have 56 lifts (elevators) that can move at a rate of speed of 1.75 to 10 metres per second.

Dubai is undergoing a construction boom currently with the Burj Dubai as the planned centrepiece of a $US20 billion project, which will eventually realize some 30,000 apartments and boast the world's largest shopping mall.

There have been criticisms of the working conditions for construction workers in the UAE. A majority of the estimated 500,000 construction workers in the UAE are foreign workers from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

In a 2006 report on the UAE's treatment of migrant workers, entitled Building Towers, Cheating Workers, Human Rights Watch documented abuses in UAE such as, "extremely low wages, several years of indebtedness to recruitment agencies for fees that UAE law says only employers should pay, the withholding of employees’ passports, and hazardous working conditions that result in apparently high rates of death and injury."

In October of last year, Human Rights Watch delivered specific recommendations to the UAE government for improvement of working conditions. The UAE government acted swiftly on the report and put in place several improvements, which were applauded by Human Rights Watch.

However, the salaries of migrant construction workers remain in the range from $106 to $250 per month, while the national average wage is over $2,000 per month. Trade unions remain illegal in the UAE.


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Tammy Faye Messner, 65, dies after long battle with cancer

July 22, 2007

Evangelist Tammy Faye Messner has passed away at age 65 from complications from colon cancer. The announcement came during Larry King Live on Saturday evening. Messner is reported to have died at her home in Kansas City, Missouri. Her family states that she passed "peacefully."

Messner was an American Christian singer, evangelist, entrepreneur, author, talk show host, and television personality who was born on March 7, 1942. She was the co-host of The PTL Club from 1976 to 1987, and appeared on The Surreal Life, Season 2. In May, she announced that she was suffering from cancer, and was under hospice care.

She had been married twice. Her first husband, Jim Bakker, an American televangelist and a former Assemblies of God minister and host of The PTL Club, was imprisoned in 1989 on federal charges of fraud, tax evasion, and racketeering. They divorced in 1992 after 30 years together.

In 1993 she married Roe Messner, who had led the building of the Bakker's theme park in South Carolina. In 1995 he was also jailed after being convicted of bankruptcy fraud.

Messner always hoped that one day doctors would find a cure for her cancer, and was optimistic that they would saying "don't let fear rule your life. Live one day at a time, and never be afraid. I believe when I leave this earth, because I love the Lord, I'm going straight to heaven. I don't think about it, Larry, because it's a waste of good brain space."

There was a ceremony immediately following her death on Friday, in which her ashes were spread at a private cemetery and Faye's website, www.tammyfaye.com has been taken off-line simply saying "service unavailable."


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Comments:Tammy Faye Messner, 65, dies after long battle with cancer

Ding dong! The witch is dead. --Brian McNeil / talk 07:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
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RE: Haneef Article
I had thought of adding Australia to the title somehow, but cant figure out how :( Cartman02au (Talk)(AU Portal) 10:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I see you came up with something :)  Daniel  22:53, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

To get well soon...

 * Ha, thanks! It almost makes me want to be sick more often...thanks again :)  Daniel  22:53, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Bulletin Delivery

Thunderhead - (talk) 21:58, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Bulletin: September 1, 2007
--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 23:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Message from S/Pig0001 from SE Wiki
Daniel, I suppose you can figure out why I am here. To get more trust if this "you-know-what" fails, and so if I do get back on EN, after mentoring is over, I can write for the S/Post. I've created an article on Crazy John's death, and hope to do more.

I won't be on tomorrow (Sat 27 Oct). I'll be on Sunday, and most other days. If you want to give me some pointers (being an accelerated reporter), please do. Well done on getting MedCom Chair! -- Nathannoblet 20:28, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Daniel, can you please put this on my EN page:

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This user is no longer active on Wikipedia.

To all my fellow Wiki editiors. I have today decided to, unforcnatly, cease editing Wikipedia, Wikinews and the like. This is due to personal matters, at school, not due to any on-wiki issues. I would like to thank all editiors here for supporting me over the 12 months i have editied here, but I am leaving. To show I mean it, I am asking a admin to protect this page. Bye -- Spiderpig0001 07:09, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

 * No, w:Template:Banned better reflects why you're no longer active on the English Wikipedia.  Daniel  10:35, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

hi
Welcome Back. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:32, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) I'll still be a little in-and-out, because I'm still not 100% free of my education quite yet, but when there's a football in Australia story to write about (ie. Australia v Nigeria tomorrow and then Sydney v LA Galaxy on Wednesday) I'll be here. Cheers, and thanks again,  Daniel  10:08, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Wikinews
I have proposed for a WikiProject Wiikinews. Would you like to join? Kingjeff - (talk) 00:10, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

OTRS privacy breach
Your comments on this worry me that there's some mailing list I'm not subscribed to that I should be on. Is there an OTRS-l?

I am extremely unhappy that Adambro is persisting in pursuing this issue. To date I see nothing on wmfcc-l about it and I am in close touch with Jay Walsh, Mike Godwin, and Cary Bass. None of these people have seriously suggested I acted improperly. Yes, the (c) violation notice was forwarded to Cirt, but that is because I know he's smart enough to already know the constraints placed on OTRS volunteers and keep the journalist-source relationship working. He was very careful to use information in it as a basis for further research to public sources and I believe the only details lifted from the infringement notice were the name of the LDS guy. With the initial confusion that this was a DMCA takedown notice he was also the first to note that it wasn't DMCA, but a vanilla (c) violation. Mike Godwin has subsequently confirmed this and noted that there *might* be a DMCA notice correctly issued to the old Florida address. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I am as disappointed as you are that Adam is pursuing this in the manner he has, and am trying to remedy the situation now. Daniel (talk) 09:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I contacted ComCom on Daniel's insistence that I should take up my suggestion that there has been some misuse of OTRS access here with the Committee rather than because I have a desire to pursue this beyond what has been said/done here on Wikinews. Adambro (talk) 09:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

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2007/08 European football season: Spots finalized for European stage
Can you help on working on the table? This is a massive table and a lot of people need to work on it. Kingjeff (talk) 01:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

My first Original Reporting article
Hi, can you check out FIFA and European Union are set to collide? This is my first OR article and would like to see if it meets all required Wikinews policies. Kingjeff (talk) 19:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

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Can you take a look at these 4 sources and see if there are at least 2 multiple independent sources?

This is regardingthe Elián González joins Communist youth group, AP says. Kingjeff (talk) 21:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

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If you have not already seen this, please look, comment, and vote both here and on bugzilla. Further assistance such as contact information for Google would be a very useful detail to share and help in petitioning for a listing in their news index. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Melbourne Victory win A-League Pre-Season Cup on penalties
Moved to: Football: Melbourne Victory win A-League Pre-Season Cup on penalties, published. —Calebrw (talk) 16:13, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

IRC Logs
Hey, you mind if the IRC log from our brief conversation about rschen7754 be posted? The one from about 0700 UTC this morning? Thanks. (It is for the request here -- Shakata Ga Nai ^_^ 17:14, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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New Accredited Reporter image available
I've replaced File:Accredited reporter.png with a new SVG version at File:Accredited reporter.svg. Perhaps you would like to use the new image on your userpage. Cheers, King of Hearts (talk) 07:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

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Macedonia declares state of emergency due to heat wave

July 22, 2007 The Macedonian government declared a nationwide state of emergency on Thursday in face of a heatwave that is predicted to get worse.

As forest fires rage across the country, temperatures of over 44°C (111°F) are predicted for the weekend. The emergency plan, which has been implemented for at least two weeks, reduces working hours to six hours a day, calls for special shifts for outdoors workers, and warns people to stay out of the sun and take other common sense precautions.

The new working hours for state and public workers are from 7am to 1pm indoors, and two shifts of 7am to 11am and 6pm to 8pm outdoors. All pregnant women have been given paid leave. Although these measures are not compulsory for the private sector the government has recommended that they are adopted where possible. It is expected that lost time will be made up through Saturday working over the rest of the year.

According to Pande Lazarevski, director of the government's Crisis Management center, over 200 fires have been registered across the country, destroying roughly 2,500 hectares of land, mainly forests.

Health services have seen an increase in emergency calls and the Red Cross has teams on stand-by.

Meteorologists have explained that the soaring temperatures are caused by a heat mass from Africa, and have predicted that temperatures will start dropping next weekend.

At least 35,000 people died in the European heatwave of 2003.


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It's maybe worth mentioning Indra Gandhi, who probably had more power than this lady will ever see. Nyarlathotep 11:22, 22 July 2007 (UTC)


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Talk:Macedonia declares state of emergency due to heat wave

Would be great to get some pictures of this... --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 12:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)