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BBC News (TV channel)

The BBC News channel is a British free-to-air public broadcast television news channel owned and operated by the BBC. The channel is based at and broadcasts from Broadcasting House in the West End of London from which it is anchored during British daytime, with overnight broadcasts anchored from Washington, D.C. and Singapore. It was launched as BBC News 24 on 9 November 1997 at 5:30 pm as part of the BBC's foray into digital domestic television channels, becoming the first competitor to Sky News, which had been running since 1989.

On 22 February 2006, the channel was named News Channel of the Year at the Royal Television Society Television Journalism Awards for the first time in its history. The judges remarked that this was the year that the channel had "really come into its own." The channel won the accolade for a second time in 2017. From May 2007, viewers in the UK could watch the channel via the BBC News website. In April 2008, the channel was renamed BBC News as part of a £550,000 rebranding of the BBC's news output, complete with a new studio and presentation.

The channel's international counterpart, formerly known as BBC World News, initially operated as a counterpart carrying international news, as well as selected programmes from the domestic service. Unlike BBC News in the UK, which is a free-to-air channel funded by the licence fee, the world feed is a pay television service distributed by BBC Studios and funded by advertising. Some of its programmes had been simulcast by the domestic BBC News channel, especially in the overnight hours.

In 2022, the BBC announced that it would further consolidate the programming and talent of the BBC News and World News channels as a cost-cutting move; these changes took place on 3 April 2023, when BBC World News was renamed "BBC News". The UK feed occasionally opts out when it airs UK-specific content not deemed significant enough to the global audience.

History

Rolling news began in the UK on 5 February 1989 when Sky News was launched and on 16 January 1995, the BBC launched an international news channel BBC World. However it was meant for global audiences and normally wasn't available to viewers in the UK. In May 1996, the BBC announced that it was to launch a UK rolling news service as part of its move into digital broadcasting.

BBC News 24 went on air on 9 November 1997, nearly a year before digital television was launched in the UK and due to a lack of space on satellite, the channel was only available on cable, with an overnight shop window on BBC One when that channel was not on air. However, Sky News had complained about the costs associated with running a channel that only a minority could view from the licence fee. Sky News claimed that a number of British cable operators had been incentivised to carry News 24 (which, as a licence-fee funded channel was made available to such operators for free) in preference to the commercial Sky News. However, in September 1999 the European Commission ruled against a complaint made by Sky News that the publicly funded channel was unfair and illegal under EU law. The Commission ruled that the licence fee should be considered state aid but that such aid was justified due to the public service remit of the BBC and that it did not exceed actual costs.

The advent of digital television in the United Kingdom in autumn 1998 saw the channel launch on Sky's new digital satellite service and a month later it started to broadcast via digital terrestrial television. Initially it was difficult to obtain a digital satellite or terrestrial receiver without a subscription to Sky or ONdigital respectively, but following the demise of ITV Digital in 2002 and the subsequent launch of Freeview, the channel started to become much more widely available and the BBC Governors' annual report for 2005/2006 reported that average audience figures for fifteen-minute periods had reached 8.6% in multichannel homes. The 2004 report also claimed that the channel outperformed Sky News in both weekly and monthly reach in multichannel homes for the January 2004 period, and for the first time in two years moved ahead of Sky News in being perceived as the channel best for news.

In 2005, the Head of television news Peter Horrocks outlined plans to provide more funding and resources for the channel and shift the corporation's emphasis regarding news away from the traditional BBC One bulletins and across to the rolling news channel. The introduction of simulcasts of the main bulletins on the channel was to allow the news bulletins to pool resources rather than work against each other at key times in the face of competition particularly from Sky News.

2008 rebranding
On 21 April 2008, BBC News 24 was renamed BBC News on the channel itself, and referred to as the BBC News Channel on other BBC services. This was part of the creative futures plan, launched in 2006, to bring all BBC News output under the single brand name.

The BBC News Channel moved from the Studio N8 set, which became home to BBC World News, to what was the home of the national news in Studio N6, allowing the channel to share its set with the BBC News at One and the BBC News at Ten – with other bulletins moving to Studio TC7.

Move to Broadcasting House
The channel relocated, along with the remaining BBC News services at Television Centre, to the newly refurbished Broadcasting House on 18 March 2013 at 13:00 GMT. Presentation and on-screen graphics were refreshed, with new full HD studios and a live newsroom backdrop. Moving cameras in the newsroom form part of the top of the hour title sequence and are used at the start of weather bulletins.

Consolidation with BBC World News
On 26 May 2022, as part of planned cuts and streamlining across the broadcaster, the BBC announced plans for consolidation of the domestic BBC News channel in the UK with BBC World News. The domestic and international versions would share content, while maintaining the ability to opt out from the shared feed for domestic coverage if warranted. The BBC promoted that the service would offer "new flagship programmes built around high-profile journalists, and programmes commissioned for multiple platforms".

The BBC announced a new presenter lineup for the merged service in February 2023, led by Matthew Amroliwala, Christian Fraser, Yalda Hakim, Lucy Hockings, and Maryam Moshiri. On 3 April 2023, the BBC World News channel rebranded as BBC News, formally marking the implementation of the unified service with the UK feed opting out for UK-specific programming, such as BBC television newscasts and Newsnight, and coverage of UK-specific news not judged to be significant enough to warrant rolling coverage globally. Overall, the changes resulted in the layoffs of about 50 employees, including presenters David Eades, Joanna Gosling, and Tim Willcox.

Yalda Hakim left the channel to join Sky News in September 2023, the meant that Maryam Moshiri could have her own programme in the slot of Hakim's former Daily Global programme.

In February 2024, Ben Brown, Geeta Guru-Murthy, and Anita McVeigh rejoined the news channel after a year off air as chief presenters.

In March 2024, it was reported that the UK feed planned to opt out from the world feed from 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. to allow for enhanced coverage of the 2024 United Kingdom general election during the general election campaign (along with the existing simulcast of BBC News at One from BBC One). The international simulcast will air during the evening and overnight.

BBC News HD
On 16 July 2013, the BBC announced that a high-definition (HD) simulcast of BBC News would be launched by early 2014. HD output from BBC News has been simulcast on BBC One HD and BBC Two HD since the move to Broadcasting House in March 2013. The channel launched on 10 December 2013 (at an earlier date than originally planned) and rolled out nationwide over the next six months (as did BBC Four HD, CBBC HD and CBeebies HD).

BBC News HD was removed from Freeview on 30 June 2022 due to the closure of the COM7 multiplex.

Breaking news
The BBC maintains guidelines for procedures to be taken for breaking news. With domestic news, the correspondent first recorded a "generic minute" summary (for use by all stations and channels) and then priority was to report on BBC Radio 5 Live, then on the BBC News channel and any other programmes that are on air. Since 5 Live's move to Manchester, this has been reversed. For foreign news, first a "generic minute" is recorded, then reports are to World Service radio, then the reporter talks to any other programmes that are on air.

A key claim made by Lord Lambert in his report had been that the channel was slower to react to breaking news compared with its main rival Sky News. To counteract this, a new feature introduced with the 2003 relaunch was a "breaking news sting": a globe shown briefly onscreen to direct a viewer's attention to the breaking news.

The graphics relaunch in January 2007 saw the globe sting replaced by a red strapline to highlight the breaking story immediately.

To complement this, a permanent live news ticker had earlier been introduced in 2006: this had previously been in use only sporadically. News statements are shown as continuously scrolling upper-case text located at the bottom of the screen; some past ambiguities noted have included spelling the plural of MPs as "MPS", together with other occasional spelling and grammatical errors. The design of this ticker was slightly altered with the 2007 graphics redesign and from June turned red to indicate breaking news, as Newswatch reported viewers' confusion. The ticker was removed during trails and weather forecasts. A new set of graphics, including a change to font style, was officially launched in July 2019 although it was broadcast in error up to a couple of months before. The news ticker, which had been a long-running feature of the Channel, was replaced by a flipper as stories no longer scroll across the screen. The headlines now have a limited length and appear in full in turn. The word "BREAKING" may appear on screen and flash to indicate breaking news. Occasionally a breaking news sting may appear on the Channel to call attention to breaking news. This sting gained some notoriety in June 2017 when a technical error caused it to appear several times in a row, delaying the start of the BBC News at Ten. Usually the BBC News Channel crosses over to live events, such as press conferences, without using the sting and the presenter on air introduces what viewers are seeing.

BBC World News simulcasts
The BBC began simulcasting the channel overnight on terrestrial channel BBC One with the launch of the channel, ending the tradition of a closedown but at the same time effectively making the service available to many more viewers. In the early 2000s, BBC Two also started simulcasting the channel, although the weekend morning show Weekend 24 had been simulcast on the channel in the early days. During major breaking news events, the BBC News Channel has been broadcast on BBC One; examples of special broadcasts include the 11 September 2001 attacks, 7 July 2005 London bombings, the capture of Saddam Hussein, the death of Osama bin Laden and the death and funerals of Prince Philip and Elizabeth II. In 2020, shared programming between BBC One and the News Channel often included the UK Government's Coronavirus Daily Update. This was usually broadcast during late afternoons when the Government made announcements.

Coverage of major events has also been simulcast on BBC World News. Currently, overnight viewers receive 25-minute editions of BBC News every hour, and on weekdays 23:00–02:00 receive Newsday, live from Singapore and from London which also includes Business Today and Sportsday between 00:30 and 01:00 and also between 01:30 and 02:00 From 02:00–05:00 (00:00–06:00 on weekends) receive BBC World News. The Briefing airs between 05:00–06:00 on weekdays.

These simulcasts were expanded as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. The BBC introduced a streamlined schedule and the News Channel and BBC World News now share major parts of evening and weekend coverage. From August 2020 this was changed and made permanent to 10:00 to 12:00 and on weekdays 19:00 to 06:00, with opt-outs for BBC News at Ten and half an hour at 20:30, weekends 21:00 to 06:00, apart from the evening BBC One bulletin.

World News is no longer simulcasted, given that the channel has been merged with the domestic provision, thereby any programming on the News Channel is broadcast as the channel says "Around the world and across the UK".

BBC One, BBC Two and BBC World News simulcasts
BBC Breakfast has been simulcast since its launch in 2000 on BBC One and BBC News, replacing the individual breakfast shows that had run on both channels. Since May 2006 until 17 March 2020, the simulcast generally ran from 06:00 until 08:30 during the week. Breakfast on BBC One continued from MediaCityUK until 09:15 with entertainment and features, whilst BBC News usually went to Business Live until 09:00 and reverted to its traditional format from 09:00. Since 18 March 2020, the COVID-19 pandemic has caused changes to these arrangements. Business Live, which had become Worklife, is no longer on air. Weekdays, BBC Breakfast ran runs until 09:00 on both BBC One and the BBC News Channel and there is then an hour of news, which was called the BBC News at Nine, on both channels. This continued as the first half of two hours of programming on the BBC News Channel, the second hour was usually taken by BBC Two presented by Victoria Derbyshire on Mondays to Wednesdays and was generally by Annita McVeigh on the other two days of the week.

BBC Two simulcasts the News Channel on weekday mornings from 09:00 until 12:15 or 13:00. Coverage switches to BBC One in the form of the simulcast BBC News at One. The BBC News at One may be broadcast on BBC One only however during periods of breaking news or major announcements in the House of Commons carried only on the News Channel, if it's an international story coverage will switch for the hour to simulcast with BBC World News. A similar arrangement applies for the BBC News at Six, generally simulcast on both BBC One and the News Channel but, as ever, subject to change for breaking news for the News Channel.

The BBC News at Ten began simulcasting on the channel on 30 January 2006 as part of the Ten O'Clock Newshour, followed by extended sport and business news updates. The bulletin was joined in being simulcast on 10 April 2006 when the BBC News at One (with British Sign Language in-vision signing) and BBC News at Six bulletins were added to the schedule following a similar format to the News at Ten in terms of content on the channel once each simulcast ends.

During the summer, the hour-long programme News 24 Sunday was broadcast both on BBC One and the BBC News Channel at 09:00, to replace The Andrew Marr Show, which is off air. It was presented by a news presenter, and came from the main News channel studio. The programme was made up mostly of interviews focusing on current affairs, and included a full paper review, a weather summary, and a news update at 09:00, 09:30 and 10:00. Sunday Morning Live and alternative programming now fill this slot.

From 2013, a new programme was created for BBC Two for 11:00–12:00 weekdays, consisting of 30 minutes of domestic news and 30 minutes of BBC World News. On Wednesdays, when parliament is sitting the latter is replaced by the Daily Politics for coverage of Prime Minister's Questions (PMQ). In March 2016 the channel started showing Newsnight at 23:15.

The coverage from 10:00 to 13:00 on BBC Two and the News Channel is part of three-hour block of BBC World News simulcast due to the Coronavirus Pandemic. However, by the end of 2021 the simulcast had been cut back to a single hour on weekdays, between 10:00 and 11:00 with all-morning simulcasts continuing at the weekend. BBC World News produces the three-hour BBC News / BBC World News simulcast between 19:00 to 22:00 and 23:00 to 06:00, including one edition of The Papers. From August 2020 this was changed and made permanent to 10:00 to 12:00 and on weekdays 19:00 to 06:00, with opt-outs for BBC News at Ten and half an hour at 20:30, weekends 21:00 to 06:00, these exclude BBC One bulletin.

BBC One currently simulcasts off lf BBC Television's network news programmes on weekdays. the BBC Breakfast programme alongside BBC News from 06:00. BBC News leaves Breakfast at 09:00 the programme continues until 09:30 on weekdays and 10:00 on Saturdays on BBC One. BBC News also simulcasts the main BBC One news bulletins - BBC News at One, BBC News at Six and BBC News at Ten. On Wednesdays BBC News, simulcasts much of Politics Live which is broadcast on BBC Two to provide coverage of Prime Minister's Questions. After the News at 10, Newsnight is also aired on the BBC News Channel. All network simulcasts are broadcast on the domestic frequency only. At the weekend, apart form Breakfast, the only simulcast of a BBC TV news programme is Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg.

Exclusive programmes

 * BBC News – The latest national and international news as they break from the BBC.
 * The Context – The latest news from both sides of the Atlantic, presented by Christian Fraser in London (Monday to Thursday).
 * Newsday – Live international news from Singapore. Presented by Steve Lai. Usually airs three 30-minute editions each hour from 23:00 between Sunday to Thursday.
 * BBC Sportsday – All the latest sports news and results from around the globe.
 * Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg – Interviews and analysis of the weeks big news from the UK and around the world stories, including interviews with key politicians and personalities from all walks of life.
 * Business Today – The latest business news. Launched on 7 May 2024.
 * BBC News Now – Reactive and fast-paced international breaking news, business and sport, covering several stories in an immersive format with as much detail as possible. Launched on 22 May 2023.
 * Verified Live – Forensic analysis and journalism from the BBC Verify team, using advanced editorial tools and techniques to investigate, source and verify information, video, and images. Launched on 22 May 2023.
 * The World Today – The best of the BBC's global journalism. As well as interviews with leading figures from the arts, culture and entertainment.

Other programmes

 * BBC World News America – News and analysis with Laura Trevelyan. Broadcast from the BBC's Washington D.C. studio. This programme was broadcast during a few weeks of the year when daylight savings schedules of the UK and the USA ran out of sync. It is now broadcast occasionally when BBC News at Ten is running late due to programming on BBC One and sometimes shown live when broadcasting significant events are happening in the Americas.
 * Click – A guide to gadgets, websites, games and computer industry news.
 * Global Questions – The panels and contributing audiences discuss topical themes put to representatives from global politics, finance, business, the arts, media and other areas.
 * HARDtalk – Stephen Sackur talks to newsmakers and personalities from across the globe.
 * Our World – Features the BBC's news programmes on current issues around the world. The documentaries are intended to showcase BBC journalism at its best.
 * Panorama – Current affairs programme, featuring interviews and investigative reports on a wide variety of subjects.
 * Reporters – This programme, a showcase of reports from the BBC's global network of correspondents, occasionally airs on BBC News.
 * Talking Business – BBC business presenters, based in London, New York, Mumbai, Johannesburg and Singapore, discuss with the most important and influential people from the world of business and finance, the key issues of the day.
 * Eye Investigations – Investigations by the world service specialist investigations team across the world, the main one being BBC Africa Eye
 * The Travel Show
 * Witness – A monthly round-up of BBC News stories of global events told by the people who were there.

Previous programming

 * BBC News at Five – An hour of news live from Broadcasting House in London, usually presented by Huw Edwards or Jane Hill, covering the day's national and international news, sports events, and weather. On 13 March 2020, the last edition of the BBC News at Five was broadcast and was suspended until further notice in light of the COVID-19 pandemic. The UK Government's daily press conference on the pandemic was broadcast in place of BBC News at Five on BBC One and the BBC News Channel. The new schedule under the COVID-19 pandemic involves the BBC News at One presenter continuing on air until 16:00, replacing Afternoon Live. The programme did not return after the daily news briefings ended later in 2020.
 * BBC News at Nine – An in-depth look at the morning news and briefing on the day's events. This programme included News Briefing, involving a look at top stories on the BBC News website through smartphone access.
 * The Briefing – Sally Bundock with news, business, and sports from BBC News. It is currently airing unbranded as part of an hour block of BBC News.
 * Business Briefing – Sally Bundock with the latest business, economic and financial news, market updates and interviews with the key news-makers in the business world. It is currently airing as the 05:30 & 06:30 edition of World Business Report.
 * News Briefing - A summary of the latest headlines from newspapers and websites. It is currently airing unbranded as part of an hour block of BBC News.
 * Business Live – Sally Bundock and Ben Thompson or Tanya Beckett with the latest business news and a look ahead to the news that will shape the business day. With the latest news from end of trading in Asia, Europe, Middle East and Americas.
 * Dateline London – Foreign correspondents based in London give their views on the week's international news. The final episode was broadcast on 15 October 2022.
 * Outside Source – Ros Atkins hosts live reports linking up with the BBC's global network of correspondents. This was occasionally simulcast at 18:00 weekdays during major stories. It was broadcast at 19:00 to 20:00 (Monday to Thursday).
 * The Papers – From 2013 until 2023, the channel broadcast The Papers which featured lively and informed conversation about the next day's or today's headlines as featured in the national newspapers. From around 2017 the nightly editions were usually to Clive Myrie and Martine Croxall, the latter having also generally covered some late weekday and weekend shifts. Other News Channel presenters filled in across the week. A Sunday-morning edition was usually presented by Ben Brown as part of his News Channel 09:00 to 14:00 shift. The Papers was axed in January 2023 ahead of the merger between the UK news channel with BBC World News.
 * The Daily Global – A deep-dive into some of the significant news stories of the day, using in-depth interviews combined with a unique global perspective. Launched on 22 May 2023.
 * STORYFix – A short-lived weekly programme which was broadcast in 2006 and 2007. It took a mildly satirical view of the week's events – although the satire was aimed more at the way the news was reported than at the news itself. The programme ended after just a year as it had been seen as being part of a video podcasting trial, and that the production team 'will be moving on to other projects'.
 * Victoria Derbyshire – From 2015 until 2020, Victoria Derbyshire was broadcast on weekday mornings. The programme had featured original stories, exclusive interviews, audience debate and breaking news. On 22 January 2020, it was announced that the programme would be axed later in 2020 as part of BBC cuts. However, due to priority put on coverage of the COVID-19 pandemic, the BBC suspended the programme earlier than initially planned with the final episode airing on 17 March 2020. Derbyshire has remained as a presenter in the same time slot, instead presenting a standardly structured BBC News newscast.
 * World News Today – This programme focused on the UK, Europe, Middle East and Africa and was presented by Kasia Madera, Nancy Kacungira, Lukwesa Burak and Lewis Vaughan Jones. It was broadcast at 19:00, 21:00 and 03:00. The 19:00 programme was simulcast on BBC Four, when Beyond 100 Days was not on air, and the 03:00 programme was simulcast on BBC One. Under COVID-19, the programme effectively ended when it became part of the news coverage simulcast with BBC World News during the weekends (including Friday mid-evening and the approximate half hour slot from 21:00 on Saturday and Sunday).
 * Your News – A user-generated news programme which was part of the channel's weekend schedule from November 2006 until December 2008.

Other programmes previous broadcast on BBC News Channel included Head 2 Head, E24, The Record Europe, Politics Europe and News 24 Tonight, a weekday evening programme which ran from 2005 to 2008, providing a round up of the day's news.

2015 schedule changes
As part of budget cuts, major changes to the channel were announced in late 2014 / early 2015. This included axing some bulletins and replacing them with Victoria Derbyshire and BBC Business Live with Sally Bundock and Ben Thompson in the morning. Outside Source with Ros Atkins – an "interactive" show already broadcast on BBC World News – aired Mondays-Thursday at (during major stories at 18:00) and 21:00 and a new edition of World News Today Friday-Sunday at 21:00 (during major stories at 19:00/20:00 Monday-Friday) adding to the 19:00 edition on BBC Four. HARDtalk was moved to 20:30 in May. The 00:00 edition was replaced on Sundays–Thursday with Newsday and on Friday-Saturday a standard edition of BBC World News.

BBC World News shared programming
On 1 October 2007, BBC World News started broadcasting BBC World News America and World News Today at 00:00 and 03:00 GMT respectively. World News Today was simulcast on the BBC News channel at 03:00 GMT. BBC World News America used to be aired as a reduced length, time-delayed version at 00:30 GMT, with ABC World News Tonight with David Muir also being shown at 01:30 every Tuesday-Friday.

From 13 June 2011, the weekday editions of BBC News at 01:00, 02:00, 03:00 and 04:00 were replaced with Newsday. The programme acts as a morning news bulletin for the Asia-Pacific region and is broadcast as a double-headed news bulletin with Rico Hizon in Singapore and Babita Sharma in London. Asia Business Report and Sport Today are aired at the back of the first three hours of Newsday. But Newsday changed to 23:00–02:00 on BBC News a year later meaning Mike Embley presents Tuesday-Friday BBC World News 23:00–02:00 with Kasia Madera on Saturdays and Daniela Ritorto 00:00–06:00 Sunday, 02:00–05:00 Friday/Monday.

BBC World News and World Business Report air at 05:00. This was previously known as The World Today, However, since November 2017 this was rebranded as The Briefing and Business Briefing on both channels and in lieu of commercials seen on the international broadcasts, the presenters gave a brief update on UK news for domestic audiences.

In June 2015, BBC News began simulcasting Outside Source with Ros Atkins on Mondays-Thursday at (during major stories 18:00) / at 21:00 and a new edition of World News Today Friday-Sunday at (during major stories Monday-Friday 19:00) 21:00. Since January 2017, they began simulcasting Beyond 100 Days (previously '100 Days and 100 Days +) Monday to Thursday at 19:00, presented from London and Washington. During August, Beyond 100 Days is replaced by another edition of World News Today.

On 26 May 2022, as part of planned cuts and streamlining to create a "digital first" broadcaster, the BBC announced plans to consolidate the BBC News and BBC World News networks into a single service under the "BBC News" name. The merged service was slated to launch in April 2023, with the BBC stating that it would offer "new flagship programmes built around high-profile journalists, and programmes commissioned for multiple platforms". The international version of the BBC News channel remains an advertising-supported service distributed by the corporation's commercial arm, BBC Studios. The domestic channel may opt out from the shared schedule to provide coverage of UK-specific breaking news, and would continue to carry UK-specific programmes (such as simulcasts of BBC One bulletins and Newsnight) that are not cleared by the international channel.

By the end of 2022, sharing had extended to 23:00–06:00 UK time, BBC News and BBC World News simulcast for the first 25 minutes of each hour with world news shown all through the simulcasts. In addition, the 10:00 hour on weekdays was simulcast and at the weekend, simulcasts run throughout the morning UK-time. The two channels also simulcast between 19:00 and 22:00. UK-specific rolling coverage had, by now, been restricted to daytime hours.

Sports
Since 5 March 2012, sports bulletins come from the BBC Sport Centre in MediaCityUK in Salford Quays, where the sports network BBC Radio 5 Live is also based.

Headlines are usually provided at 15 minutes past the hour with a full bulletin after the bottom-of-the-hour headlines. There are also extended sports bulletins per day, entitled Sportsday or Sport Today (when simulcasting with BBC World News) broadcast at 00:45, 01:45, 02:45, 03:45, 13:30, 18:30, 19:30 (weekends only), 22:30 (weekdays only). Each bulletin is read by a single sports presenter, with the exception of Saturday Sportsday, which is double headed.

The channel's sports bulletins (internally known as Sport 24) have always had a separate, dedicated production gallery, which is also responsible for the graphics.

Bulletins during BBC Breakfast are presented by Sally Nugent or Mike Bushell, with the latter also appearing on other sports bulletins on the channel. the main sports presenters on the channel are Olly Foster, Gavin Ramjaun, Katie Gornall, Chetan Pathak, Katherine Downes, Tulsen Tollett, Lizzie Greenwood-Hughes and John Watson.

Until March 2012, bulletins came from the News Channel studio at the quarter to the hour. Presenters for bulletins on the channel have included: Reshmin Chowdhury, Amanda Davies, Sean Fletcher, Matt Gooderick, Celina Hinchcliffe, Rachael Hodges, Damian Johnson, Adnan Nawaz and Olympic gold medallist turned journalist Matthew Pinsent.

Business
Before BBC News moved to Broadcasting House, an hourly business update was included during the weekday schedule from the BBC Business Unit. There were two shifts, from 08:30 to 14:00 and 14:00 to 23:00, presented by Penny Haslam, Maryam Moshiri, Ben Thompson, Adam Parsons, Susannah Streeter, Joe Lynam, Sara Coburn or Sally Eden. News Channel updates were usually broadcast at 40 minutes past the hour between 08:00 and 23:00. The 21:40 round-up was often earlier and the 22:40 bulletin is an extended round-up of the day's business news. Until May 2009, the business updates on the BBC News Channel were broadcast from one of the London Stock Exchange's studios in central London. From then until March 2013 the bulletins were provided from the channel's studio at BBC Television Centre. The business updates were axed in March 2013 as part of the BBC's Delivering Quality First plan. But after complaints returned in November 2013.

Stock market updates now only appear during the quarter-to-the-hour headlines. Rachel Horne is the main presenter from 13:30 to 18:00, with Vishala Sri-Pathma, Alice Baxter, Jamie Robertson, Aaron Heslehurst and Sally Bundock. There is normally an extended bulletin at 16:45 when the main business stories of the day are discussed on Afternoon Live. Bundock and Thompson present Business Live on weekdays at 08:30. Declan Curry presented Your Money, a weekly round-up on a Saturday morning.

Alice Baxter and Sally Bundock presented World Business Report.

Graphics
The channel was criticised at launch for its style of presentation, with accusations of it being less authoritative than the BBC One news bulletins, with presenters appearing on-screen without jackets. Jenny Abramsky had originally planned to have a television version of the informal news radio channel BBC Radio 5 Live, or a TV version of Radio 4 News FM both of which she had run. The bright design of the set was also blamed for this – one insider reportedly described it as a "car crash in a shower" – and was subject to the network relaunch on 25 October 1999. The channel swapped studios with sister channel BBC World, moving to studio N8 within the newsroom, where it remained until 2008. New music and title sequences accompanied this set change, following the look of newly relaunched BBC One bulletins.

Graphics and titles were developed by the Lambie-Nairn design agency and were gradually rolled out across the whole of BBC News, including a similar design for regional news starting with Newsroom South East and the three 'BBC Nations' – Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. The similarity of main BBC News output was intended to increase the credibility of the channel as well as aiding cross-channel promotion.

A graphics relaunch in January 2007 saw the channel updated, with redesigned headline straplines, a redesigned 'digital on-screen graphic' and repositioned clock. The clock was originally placed to the left hand side of the channel name though following complaints that this could only be viewed in widescreen, it was moved to the right in February 2007. Bulletins on BBC World News and BBC One also introduced similar graphics and title sequences on the same day.

In 2008, the graphics were again relaunched, using the style introduced in 2007 and a new colour scheme. The typeface of the on-screen text was changed from Helvetica to Gill Sans.

In 2013 the graphics were changed again, to coincide with the move to New Broadcasting House. The typeface was changed back to Helvetica.

These were updated again in July 2019 when the BBC redesigned its on-air look with the growth of television viewing on smartphones and tablets. These included again redesigned, larger headline straplines sharply contrasting with the background (drawing criticism for obscuring content) using the BBC Reith typeface with larger text. Despite this, the 2008 titles and music continue to be used for the updated local titles.

The Lambert Report
The Lambert Report into the channel's performance in 2002 called upon News 24 to develop a better brand of its own, to allow viewers to differentiate between itself and similar channels such as Sky News. As a direct result of this, a brand new style across all presentation for the channel launched on 8 December 2003 at 09:00. Philip Hayton and Anna Jones were the first two presenters on the set, the relaunch of which had been put back a week due to previous power disruptions at Television Centre where the channel was based. The new designs also featured a dynamic set of titles for the channel; the globe would begin spinning from where the main story was taking place, while the headline scrolled around in a ribbon; this was occasionally replaced by the BBC News logo. The titles concluded with a red globe surrounded by a red stylised clamshell and BBC News ribbons forming above the BBC News logo.

Bulletins on BBC One moved into a new set in January 2003 although retained the previous ivory Lambie-Nairn titles until February 2004. News 24 updated the title colours slightly to match those of BBC One bulletins in time for the 50th anniversary of BBC television news on 5 July 2004.

Countdown sequence

An important part of the channel's presentation since launch has been the top of the hour countdown sequence, since there is no presentation system with continuity announcers so the countdown provides a link to the beginning of the next hour. A similar musical device is used on BBC Radio 5 Live, and mirrors the pips on BBC Radio 4.

Previous styles have included a series of fictional flags set to music between 1997 and 1999 before the major relaunch, incorporating the new contemporary music composed by David Lowe, and graphics developed by Lambie-Nairn. Various images, originally ivory numbers fully animated against a deep red background, were designed to fit the pace of the channel, and the music soon gained notoriety, and was often satirised and parodied in popular culture. Images of life around the UK were added in replacement later with the same music, together with footage of the newsroom and exterior of Television Centre. The 2003 relaunch saw a small change to this style with less of a metropolitan feel to the footage.

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Bill Oddie

William Edgar Oddie (born 7 July 1941) is an English actor, artist, birder, comedian, conservationist, musician, songwriter, television presenter and writer. He was a member of comedy trio The Goodies.

A birder since his childhood in Quinton, Birmingham, Oddie has established a reputation as a naturalist, conservationist, and television presenter on wildlife issues. Some of his books are illustrated with his own paintings and drawings. His wildlife programmes for the BBC include Springwatch and Autumnwatch, How to Watch Wildlife, Wild in Your Garden, Birding with Bill Oddie, Britain Goes Wild with Bill Oddie and Bill Oddie Goes Wild.

Early life
Oddie was born on 7 July 1941 in Rochdale, Lancashire, but moved to Birmingham at a young age; his father was assistant chief accountant at the Midlands Electricity Board. His mother was diagnosed with schizophrenia and, during most of his youth, lived in a hospital. He was educated at Lapal Primary School, Halesowen Grammar School (now The Earls High School, Halesowen) and King Edward's School, Birmingham, an all-boys direct grant school, where he captained the school's rugby union team. He then studied English literature at Pembroke College, Cambridge.

Comedy
While at Cambridge University Oddie appeared in several Footlights Club productions. One of these, a revue called A Clump of Plinths, was so successful at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe that it was renamed Cambridge Circus and transferred to the West End in London, then New Zealand and Broadway in September 1964. Meanwhile, still at Cambridge, Oddie wrote scripts for and appeared briefly in TV's That Was the Week That Was.

He appeared in Bernard Braden's television series On The Braden Beat in 1964. Subsequently, he was a key member of the performers in the BBC radio series I'm Sorry, I'll Read That Again, where many of his musical compositions were featured. Some were released on the album Distinctly Oddie (Polydor, 1967). He was one of the first performers to parody a rock song, arranging the traditional Yorkshire folk song "On Ilkla Moor Baht'at" in the style of Joe Cocker's hit rendition of the Beatles' "With a Little Help from My Friends" (released on John Peel's Dandelion Records in 1970 and featured in Peel's special box of most-treasured singles), and singing "Andy Pandy" in the style of a brassy soul number such as Wilson Pickett or Geno Washington might perform. In many shows he would do short impressions of Hughie Green.

On television Oddie was co-writer and performer in the comedy series Twice a Fortnight with Graeme Garden, Terry Jones, Michael Palin and Jonathan Lynn. Later he was co-writer and performer in the comedy series Broaden Your Mind with Tim Brooke-Taylor and Graeme Garden, for which he became a cast member for the second series.

Oddie, Brooke-Taylor and Garden then co-wrote and appeared in their television comedy series The Goodies (1970–1982). The Goodies also released records, including "Father Christmas Do Not Touch Me"/"The In-Betweenies", "The Funky Gibbon" (co-written by Oddie with Dave MacRae) and "Black Pudding Bertha", which were hit singles in 1974–75. They reformed, briefly, in 2005 for a successful 13-date tour of Australia.

Oddie, Brooke-Taylor and Garden voiced characters on the 1983 animated children's programme Bananaman.

In the Amnesty International show A Poke in the Eye (With a Sharp Stick), Oddie, Brooke-Taylor and Garden sang their hit song "Funky Gibbon". They also appeared on Top of the Pops with the song. Together with Garden (who is a qualified medical doctor), Oddie co-wrote many episodes of the television comedy series Doctor in the House, including most of the first season and all of the second season. He has occasionally appeared on the BBC Radio 4 panel game I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue, on which Garden is and Brooke-Taylor was a regular panellist. In 1982 Garden and Oddie wrote, but did not perform in, a six-part science-fiction sitcom called Astronauts for Central and ITV. The show was set in an international space station in the near future.

Natural history
Oddie's first published work was an article about the birdlife of Birmingham's Bartley Reservoir in the West Midland Bird Club's 1962 Annual Report. (He is first credited in the 1956 report, in which reports of his bird observations are tagged with his initials "WEO". ) He has since written a number of books about birds and birdwatching as well as articles for many specialist publications including British Birds, Birdwatching Magazine and Birdwatch.

He discussed bird-song recordings with Derek Jones in an August 1973 BBC Radio 4 programme called Sounds Natural.

In the autumn of 1976, Oddie was involved in the successful identification of Britain's first-ever record of Pallas's reed bunting on Fair Isle, Shetland.

One of Oddie's first forays into the world of television natural history was as a guest on Animal Magic in December 1977. Another early natural-history radio appearance was in October, as the guest on Radio 4's Through My Window, discussing the birds of Hampstead Heath.

On 30 July 1985, he was the subject of a 50-minute Nature Watch Special: Bill Oddie – Bird Watcher, in which he was interviewed by Julian Pettifer at places where he had spent time birding, including Bartley Reservoir, the Christopher Cadbury Wetland Reserve at Upton Warren, RSPB Titchwell Marsh and Blakeney Point.

Oddie has since hosted a number of successful nature programmes for the BBC, many produced by Stephen Moss, including:

 * The Great Bird Race (1983; Channel 4)
 * The Great Kenyan Bird Safari (BBC)
 * Favourite Walks: "A Bird Walk" (1985; BBC; filmed on Fair Isle)
 * Worldwise: "The Bird Business" (1985; Channel 4)
 * Oddie in Paradise (1985; BBC)
 * Wild Weekends (TV AM)
 * Flight to Eilat (Channel 4)
 * Bird in the Nest (two series, 1994 and 1995)
 * Birding with Bill Oddie (three series, 1997, 1998 and 2000)
 * Bill Oddie Goes Wild (three series, 2001, 2002 and 2003)
 * Wild in Your Garden (2003)
 * Britain Goes Wild (2004)
 * Bill Oddie in Tiger Country (2004)
 * Bill Oddie's How to Watch Wildlife (two series, 2005 and 2006; also on DVD)
 * Seven Natural Wonders (London edition) (2005)
 * The Truth About Killer Dinosaurs (2005; also on DVD)
 * Springwatch (2005–2008)
 * Autumnwatch (2006–2008)
 * Bill Oddie Back in the USA (2007)
 * Bill Oddie's Top Ten Birds (2007; BBC Four)
 * 100 Years of Wildlife (2007)
 * Bill Oddie's Wild Side (2008)
 * Bill Oddie's Top 10 (2008)

The first broadcast, in 2004, of Britain Goes Wild set a record for its timeslot of 8 pm on BBC Two of 3.4 million viewers, one million more than the Channel 4 programme showing at that time. Britain Goes Wild, renamed Springwatch the following year, became a wildlife broadcasting phenomenon, attracting over 4 million viewers.

He became president of the West Midland Bird Club in 1999, having been vice-president since 1991, and is a former member of the council of the RSPB. Oddie is also a President of the League Against Cruel Sports and a vice-president of the British Trust for Conservation Volunteers. He practised as a bird ringer but allowed his licence to lapse.

In 2003, Oddie set up a half-marathon to raise money for various wildlife charities in his birth town of Rochdale. Celebrities who have participated in the event include Ray Mears, Katherine Jenkins and Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall.

In 2011, Oddie featured as an investigator in Snares Uncovered: killers in the countryside. The film was an exposé of snaring in Scotland and was commissioned by animal protection charity OneKind. During the investigation Oddie discovered more than 70 snares and several stink pits.

Music
Oddie wrote original music at Cambridge University for the Footlights and later wrote comic songs for I'm Sorry, I'll Read That Again. He also wrote a number of comic songs for The Goodies, most of which he also performed.

In the 1960s and early 1970s, Oddie released a number of singles and at least one album. One of the former, issued in 1970 on John Peel's Dandelion Records label (Catalogue No: 4786), was "On Ilkla Moor Baht 'at", performed in the style of Joe Cocker's "With a Little Help from my Friends". The B-side, "Harry Krishna", featured the Hare Krishna chant, substituting the names of contemporary famous people called Harry, including Harry Secombe, Harry Worth, Harry Lauder and Harry Corbett, as well as puns such as "Harry [Hurry] along now" and "Harrystotle [Aristotle]" and ending with "Harry-ly [I really] must go now". Both tracks appear on the compilation CD Life Too, Has Surface Noise: The Complete Dandelion Records Singles Collection 1969–1972 (2007). In 1966 he was credited as the vocalist with Spencer's Washboard Kings on "Five Feet Two" (Rayrick LCR1001a). The vocalist on the B-side of this 45rpm single, "If You Knew Susie", was Jean Hart, Oddie's future wife.

He played the drums and saxophone and appeared as Cousin Kevin in a production of The Who's rock opera Tommy by London Symphonic Orchestra and English Chamber Choir at the Rainbow Theatre, Finsbury Park, London, on 13 and 14 December 1973. He has also contributed vocals to a Rick Wakeman album, Criminal Record.

He recorded a single, "Superspike", with John Cleese and a group of UK athletes, billed the "Superspike Squad", to fund the latter's attendance at the 1976 Summer Olympics in Montreal. He co-produced the record with Stephen Shane.

Oddie took part in the English National Opera production of the Gilbert and Sullivan comic opera The Mikado, in which he appeared in the role of the Lord High Executioner, taking over the role from Eric Idle. During the early 1990s Oddie was a DJ for London-based jazz radio station 102.2 Jazz FM.

In 2007, Oddie appeared on the BBC series Play It Again. In the episode he attempts to realise his dream of becoming a rock guitarist. Initially teacher Bridget Mermikides tries to teach him using traditional methods but he rebels: instead he turns to old friends Albert Lee, Dave Davies (of The Kinks) and Mark Knopfler for advice and strikes out on his own. He succeeds in the target of playing lead guitar for his daughter Rosie's band at her 21st birthday party and even manages to impress his erstwhile teacher.

In November 2010, he agreed, along with fellow members of The Goodies, to rerelease their 1970s hit "The Funky Gibbon" to raise funds for the International Primate Protection League's Save the Gibbon appeal.

Other television and voice work
Oddie appeared as the hapless window cleaner in the Eric Sykes' comedy story The Plank in 1967. He also presented the live children's Saturday morning entertainment show Saturday Banana (ITV/Southern Television) during the late 1970s. In the late 1980s he was a presenter of the BBC TV show Fax (a show about 'facts').

In 1981, he appeared as a Telethon celebrity in New Zealand, hosted by TV1. He voices Asterix in the UK dub of the 1989 animated film Asterix and the Big Fight (an animated adaptation of the books Asterix and the Big Fight and Asterix and the Soothsayer, novelized as Operation Getafix).

In 1992, he was a guest star in the US comedy television series Married... with Children for a three-part episode set in England.

He voiced the chimney sweep in the 1996 film The Willows in Winter.

In 1997 and 1998, he appeared on the Channel 4 archaeological programme Time Team, as the team excavated a Roman villa site in Turkdean, Gloucestershire.

He was the compère of a daytime BBC gameshow History Hunt (in 2003); and has appeared in the Doctor Who audio drama Doctor Who and the Pirates. In 2004, he appeared on the first ever episode of the BBC series Who Do You Think You Are?, in which he looked into his ancestry: he was visibly moved by its revelations. In 2005, he took part in Rolf on Art – the big event at Trafalgar Square and in September that year was also a celebrity guest along with Lynda Bellingham on the ITV1 programme Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. He also gave opinions on 100 greatest cartoons on Channel 4 that year, talking about Tom and Jerry and cartoon incidents such as the "Asses of Fire skit" in South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut.

In 2006, Oddie appeared in the BBC show Never Mind the Buzzcocks, and also appeared on the topical quiz show 8 out of 10 Cats. He was also the voice behind many B&Q adverts throughout 2006/2007. On 25 May 2007, Oddie made a cameo appearance on Ronni Ancona's new comedy sketch show, Ronni Ancona & Co.

Also in 2007, three artists each painted a portrait of Oddie, as part of the BBC programme Star Portraits with Rolf Harris. One of the artists, Mark Roscoe, later revealed a dislike of Oddie, claiming to have included hidden insults in his work.

He hosted the genealogy-based series My Famous Family, broadcast on UKTV History in 2007. In 2008, Oddie was a guest on Jamie Oliver's television special Jamie's Fowl Dinners, talking about free-range chickens.

He also appeared on Would I Lie To You? in 2011, where he revealed that he was saved from drowning by Freddy from popular children's series Rainbow and Rod, Jane and Freddy while on holiday in the Seychelles.

In February 2015, Oddie appeared in The Keith Lemon Sketch Show as the narrator of the sketch Ed Sheeran Watch.

He appeared as a contestant on a celebrity edition of Fifteen to One in August 2015 and the following month he appeared on Through the Keyhole.

He has appeared three times on the programme Pointless Celebrities, the most recent appearance being in 2016.

In 2017, he appeared in three episodes of The Real Marigold Hotel.

In 2018, he featured on the programme The Two Ronnies: In Their Own Words. In 2019, he appeared on the show The Inbetweeners: Fwends Reunited.

In 2020, Oddie appeared in the documentary Celebrity Britain by Barge: Then & Now.

2013 Australian tour
Oddie undertook an Australian tour during June 2013 in all of the mainland states capital cities – Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth – in a series of one-off shows, An Oldie but a Goodie. A video message from Tim Brooke-Taylor and Graeme Garden was shown during the performances. Oddie made personal appearances on both The Project and Adam Hills Tonight TV shows during the tour; he also filmed a guest-programming spot for the ABC-TV's all-night music video show Rage.

Family
In 1966, Oddie married Jeanne Hart, and from this marriage he has two daughters, one of whom is the actress Kate Hardie. The couple later divorced.

In 1983, Oddie married Laura Beaumont-Giles. The couple have worked on a variety of projects for children, including film scripts, drama and comedy series, puppet shows and books. They have a daughter, Rosie, born in October 1985, and live in Hampstead, North London. Rosie Oddie is a musician, also using the name Rosie Bones.

Mental health
Oddie has experienced depression for most of his life before being diagnosed with clinical depression in 2001. In March 2009 he was reportedly admitted to Capio Nightingale psychiatric hospital in Marylebone for treatment. His then agent, David Foster, said: "Bill gets these bouts every two or three years where he gets down for about two weeks and recovers. He sometimes goes into hospital or takes a break or has a change of scenery to recharge his batteries." In January 2010 Oddie spoke to the media, revealing that he had in fact had two separate stays in different hospitals, only being discharged "in time for Christmas". He said that he was dealing with depression and bipolar disorder, describing the period as "probably the worst 12 months of my life". Oddie stated that he was planning to meet BBC executives to discuss his return to television work.

His illness meant that Oddie did not appear in the 2009 and 2010 series of Springwatch, although he made a guest appearance in the penultimate episode of the latter. He subsequently said he was dismissed from Springwatch and that this had caused the depressive illness.

Oddie presented the BBC Radio 4 Appeal programme on 10 August 2014 on behalf of the charity Bipolar UK. He revealed that as a consequence of his bipolar disorder he had attempted suicide during one of his depressive episodes. On the UK TV programme Who Do You Think You Are? he attributed his depression and bipolar disorder as an adult to his minimal and painful relationship with his mother.

Political views
Oddie supports the Green Party. In October 2014, on the BBC's Sunday Morning Live, he stated that he wanted a limit on the number of children that British families can have, saying that he was "very often ashamed" to be British, calling them "a terrible race".

Honours
In 2002, Oddie became the third person to decline to appear on This Is Your Life but changed his mind a few hours later. On 16 October 2003 Oddie was made an OBE for his service to wildlife conservation in a ceremony at Buckingham Palace. He wore a camouflage shirt and crumpled jacket to receive his medal. In June 2004 Oddie and Johnny Morris were jointly profiled in the first of a three-part BBC Two series The Way We Went Wild, about television wildlife presenters. In May 2005 he received the British Naturalists' Association's Peter Scott Memorial Award, from BNA president David Bellamy, "in recognition of his great contribution to our understanding of natural history and conservation." He is a recipient of the RSPB Medal.

On 30 June 2009, he was proposed for inclusion in the Birmingham Walk of Stars, with the public invited to vote.

Contributions

 * Confessions of a Scilly Birdman, David Hunt; Croom Helm, 1985. ISBN 0-7099-3724-5 (foreword and postscript)
 * Birds in the Yorkshire Museum, Michael Denton; North Yorkshire County Council, 1995. ISBN 0-905807-10-3 (foreword)
 * Bird Brain of Britain, Charles Gallimore & Tim Appleton; Christopher Helm, 2004. ISBN 0-7136-7036-3 (foreword)
 * Blokes and Birds, Stephen Moss; New Holland Publishers. ISBN 1-84330-484-8 (foreword)
 * The New Birds of the West Midlands, Graham and Janet Harrison (West Midland Bird Club, 2005) ISBN 0-9507881-2-0 (foreword )

In popular culture
In the fictional world of comedy character Alan Partridge, Oddie is an unseen presence in Alan's life, buying him dressing gowns for Christmas and being part of a radicalised RSPB. He has also been referenced, often humorously, by the hosts of Top Gear.

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Talk:Britain and Ireland

The term "Britain and Ireland" can't possibly include the Isle of Man, which is neither part of Britain nor part of Ireland. Ditto for the Channel Isles. --Zundark, 2001 Nov 16
 * I agree there is a problem. In 99% of the uses of "British Isles" the term is used to mean "Britain and Ireland", but there are a few cases where it explicitly is used to mean the general collection of islands off North-Western Europe that historically was politically controlled by Britain.  I do not know of an alternate succinct expression for that collection of islands that does not give the misleading impression that Ireland is British.  Any suggestions. --Eob

 * The term "Britain and Ireland" is unclear and best avoided in almost any context. If what is meant is the British Isles, then the correct term is "British Isles" (and the British Isles article should make it clear that this doesn't imply Ireland is British). If what is meant is merely the two largest islands of the British Isles, then "Great Britain and Ireland" is better than "Britain and Ireland". If what is meant is the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland, then "United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland" is obviously clearest (although a bit long-winded). --Zundark, 2001 Nov 16

 * Sorry but if we want to use a NPOV I do not think it is acceptable to use the term "British Isles" except in an historical context. The situation is not simple because political and geographical terminology is mixed, and unfortunately that means that it is hard to come up with a acceptable concise name for the collection of islands off Europe that have historically been controlled by Britain.  The use of "British Isles" is similar to the habit of some people to refer to "Britain" as "England", much to the annoyance of the Scots and Welsh.

 * Referring to Britain as "England" is just wrong, as is claiming that Britain and Ireland includes the Isle of Man. By contrast, the term "British Isles" is the normal term for the islands of Great Britain and Ireland and the smaller islands around them. Since "British Isles" is the term that is used, it's the term we should use - this is an encyclopedia, we're not supposed to make up our own terms. NPOV doesn't come into it, since no point of view is being expressed. --Zundark, 2001 Nov 16
 * Zundar, just because a term has been used in the past does not mean it should be used in the present when its offensiveness to some has become apparent. Other examples of usage that is no longer acceptable are: "girl" to describe a woman in the United States, "Eskimo" to describe the Inuit, "Lapp" to describe the Saami, "oriental" to describe East Asians in the United States.  Just because British people were happy to use the term "British Isles" and to foster its use elsewhere does not mean we keep on using the term in this somewhat more enlightened age.  How would you feel if that arhipelago was called the "Irish Isles"?

 * This is a hard issue. I'd say that the neutral point of view does enter into it, simply because a lot of people take umbrage at the use of the term "British Isles."  Many Irish people and the Irish diaspora dislike it and would construe its constant use as generating a subtext to the effect that Irish is or ought to be British.  Of course, British people think this is ridiculous, and they take umbrage at not using the perfectly precise term "British Isles."  There is a somewhat similar dispute in that some people are taken aback by the use of "American" for United States citizen, when some other people think it ought to be used in English to mean The Americas--and when many Americans would be somewhat offended at our not using "Americans" to describe them.  What's to be done?  In both cases, I'd say, it's not that the potentially offending term shouldn't be used at all, but that we should do our best to be sensitive in various ways to the views of people who partake in the dispute.  One very imperfect compromise would be to use the term, and then add disclaimer such as, "This term includes Ireland but of course should not be construed as meaning that Ireland is or ought to be British."  Another compromise is to qualify the phrase: "the so-called British Isles, which includes Ireland and Britain."  Maybe the best compromise is just to vary the usage, so that sometimes (even within the same article) we sometimes use "Britain and Ireland (and surrounding islands)" and sometimes "British Isles."  This is similar to our sometimes using "American" and sometimes "of the United States" or "U.S. citizen."  There is no perfect solution, but what's important is that we do our best not to convey a controversial view.  We should be firmly wishy-washy on this sort of issue.  :-) --LMS
 * Thanks Larry. How about this proposal:  We use "Britain and Ireland" where we mean just those two islands.  We use "British Isles" where we mean the entire archipelago in a geographical context but that we put some sort of qualification such as you suggest.  --Eob

 * I don't see the point of the qualifier - that belongs in the article on the British Isles, not elsewhere. When we mention the Irish Sea, do we have to add a qualifier pointing out that Ireland doesn't own it? Does every mention of the Indian Ocean have to be accompanied by a statement that the ocean doesn't belong to India? --Zundark, 2001 Nov 16
 * The point of the qualifier is that otherwise you will cause offensive to some. The comparison with bodies of ocean is not valid because historically countries did not "own" any part of the ocean beyond a very narrow territorial limit, so there was no implication of ownership.  However with land there is such an implication: the Greek Islands, French Guiana, the Russian Steppes.  Note for example how the "British Commonwealth" was renamed The Commonwealth.  The "British" in "British Isles" implies that Ireland is British.  Many people around the world are confused on this matter so I do not think we can rely on a qualifier buried in a link to make it clear. --Eob

On a personal note it is rather ironic that I am arguing this point because although I am Irish my politics are pretty anti-nationalistic, and I recognize that Ireland has to thank Britain for its inheritance of democracy and law. However it irks me a little when my Irish identity is obscured in this phrase "British Isles". I think I feel similarly to the Scots and Welsh when their countries are referred to as being part of England. --Eob

Derek's added some text that "British Isles" is misleading not only because of Ireland but also because of the Isle of Man and the Channel Isles. I wonder, even though the Isle of Man and the Channel Isles are not technically part of Britain do inhabitants of those islands generally object to being called "British"? In particular do they, like many Irish, object to being considered part of the "British Isles"? I have no idea but I would guess that because of their closer political association with Britain they would object less than the Irish. Anyone know for sure? --Eob

I don't know for sure whether they object or not. If they don't perhaps they should! It just seemed logical that if it was true for Ireland, it would also be true for Man, Jersey, etc. Perhaps I'm being too tidy-minded -- Derek Ross

I just added "British Isles" back to the article on "North Atlatic drift" and I wanted to apologize here to anyone who might be offended. However, the original article said "west of the British Isles", and it was changed to "west of Ireland" with the explanation that Ireland is west of Britain. The problem with this is that in the context the phrase "west of" has implications regarding latitude as well as longitude. Since Ireland and Britain do not have the same extent in latitude, the substitution changes the meaning. Unfortunately, the term "British Isles" is the accepted geographic term for the island group, and there really is no suitable alternative. -HWR

I agree that British Isles is an unfortunate name, and it is understandable why many Irish dislike it. I also agree that Britain and Ireland aren't suitable because they don't include the Isle of Man, etc. If British Isles is okay, surely Irish Isles is okay as well? The Irish have for so many centuries been subjugated, its time for some revenge! Or more seriously, what about British and Irish Isles. It doesn't imply that Ireland is British, and it also recognizes that there is more to the Isles than Great Britain and Ireland.

I also don't think the Channel Islands should be counted geographically. Certaintly they are part politically, but geographically they belong to France, not the archipelago. On the other hand, maybe the British Isles are British in the sense of being off the coast of Brittany? In which case might the Channel Isles might be British as well? (Are they off the coast of Brittany? My European geography isn't that good.) -- SJK

The Channel Isles are closer to Normandy than to Brittany. In some languages I think they are actually called the Normandy Isles. I added a note to the British Isles article yesterday to make it clear that geographically they don't belong (and someone has since made it more emphatic). One could also argue that the Shetland Isles don't belong, or that if they do then so do the Faroes. --Zundark, 2001 Nov 17

Geographical terms are often determined by historical usage and not necessarily geographic logic (e.g. the distinction between Europe and Asia), but I believe that the exclusion of the Faroes might also be justified by the submarine topography. -HWR

What about Dispute over the name of the British Isles ?
There are already Dispute over the name of the Persian Gulf and Dispute over the name of the Sea of Japan articles. From what I've read here, it seems this geographical naming dispute probably merits it own article as well. Please respond on Talk:British Isles--Pharos 20:01, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The Article title
Surely to be entirely correct it should be Great Britain and Ireland ? There is no island named simply "Britain". siarach 14:10, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Five reverts editor
Five reverts is excessive and I would guess this makes tha rticles survival considerably less likely, SqueakBox 00:45, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

There is no limit on reverting vandalism - which blanking the article clearly is. (Sarah777 00:51, 30 May 2007 (UTC))

 * Correct. Has this former editor/now petty vandal been brought to WP:AN/I? --sony-youth pléigh 06:13, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

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I suggest making this a dab page (and not an article on it's own). "Britain and Ireland" is ambiguous. It could refer to: Is there any particular reason why this is redirecting to "British Isles"? That doesn't seem to be common usage at all and it's fairly rare to use it in this way. --HighKing (talk) 10:26, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Great Britain and Ireland, the two largest islands of the British Isles
 * United Kingdom and Ireland|, the two sovereign states on the islands of Great Britain and Ireland
 * British Isles, the archipelago

 * Are there not references (some now removed) on British Isles that say that this is now the preferred term for that topic in secondary sources? It is analogous to Australia and New Zealand (redirects to Australasia) also.
 * The first suggested dab link is pointless in that it merely redirects the pointlessness elsewhere: it's a link to (effectively) another dab that makes as little sense for this term as a dabing this page would. That page is marked for merging into Terminology of the British Isles, which I've responed to. The second suggested dab links doesn't make sense either: why would someone search for "Britain and Ireland" when they mean either "Britain" or "Ireland"? The only link that makes sense is the third, which is why it is a redirect to that topic - and that this it is now a/the preferred for that topic, per the sources in that article. --RA (talk) 10:49, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Preferred term - true to a point, but it doesn't preclude it's use to also refer to either the islands, or the two sovereign states. Just because all Poodles are Dogs, doesn't mean all Dogs are Poodles.  There are oodles of references which point to "Britain and Ireland" being a synonym for "Great Britain and Ireland" - for example, The Prehistory of Britain and Ireland or The Great Castles of Britain and Ireland.  Equally there are oodles of references which point to "Britain and Ireland" being a synonym for "United Kingdom and Ireland" or "United Kingdom and Republic of Ireland" such as this publication on United Kingdom asylum law in its European context (page 104) or Twentieth Century British History: A Teaching Resource Book (Chapter 3) or Sports journalism: context and issues (page 162).  Which is why the term is highly ambiguous and meaning can only be derived from the context of usage, and why it realistically is best suited being a dab page, or being redirected to an existing dab page.  --HighKing (talk) 11:29, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

 * The word "and" can be used to join essentially any two or more nouns. That does not mean we have a dab page for "France and Germany", though of course that phrase occurs with great frequency in reliable sources. If a reader searches for Rhythm and blues, we don't ask them if they meant rhythm or blues? The phrase stands on its own, as well as being a conjoining of two separate nouns.
 * It is the same for "Britain and Ireland". There is only one single reasonable topic the phrase needs disambiguating to. As a stand-alone phrase, "Britain and Ireland" (and "Great Britain and Ireland") is a synonym of the topic described at British Isles. So we redirect there. --RA (talk) 11:54, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Certainly the word "and" can be used to join any two nouns, but not all newly formed terms can have such ambiguous meanings. "Rhythm and Blues" is not ambiguous at all.  "France and Germany" doesn't form a potentially new meaning from the two constituent parts.  "France and Germany" will always refer to "France" and "Geramny" and is therefore equally unambiguous.  But "Britain" and "Ireland" is not so simple.  "Britain" on its own is ambiguous.  "Ireland" on it's own is ambiguous".  "Britain and Ireland" is therefore not clearcut in meaning and depends on context.  If it were always to mean "British Isles", then the book titles I've pointed to above would all simply mean "British Isles" - yet they don't.  If a user is searching for "Britain and Ireland", it's going to depend on context and we should try to at least point them to the article where they may actually need to read.  It could be argued that redirecting this page to "British Isles" will be wrong more often than right.  I don't see the problem with a dab page or understand why you don't believe that a dab page is a better approach?  Your argument solely appears to be based on your opinion that people won't search for "Britain and Ireland" in any other contexts other than wanting to get to "British Isles", even though I've pointed out several examples above where it is used very differently.  --HighKing (talk) 12:20, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

 * Grand. The word "Britain" is ambiguous. The word "Ireland" is ambiguous. But no matter how ambiguous the words are they are still just two nouns conjoined by a third word: "and". We don't make dab pages for random words conjoined by "and" - just like France and Germany. What other topic can "Britain and Ireland" mean? Reply with a link to it on this page. --RA (talk) 12:28, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

 * You wrote: "'France and Germany' doesn't form a potentially new meaning from the two constituent parts." That is exactly the point. "France and Germany" doesn't mean anything. "Britain and Ireland" does (see sources on the BI page) - so we redirect there. --RA (talk) 12:34, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You appear to be trying to argue that "Britain and Ireland" is a new entity, independent of the constituent parts (unlike "France and Germany"). And you also expect that a reader will inherently know that this is the case? And we're not making dab pages for random words cojoined by "and" since clearly "Britain and Ireland" is widely used, but equally clearly can mean different things.  I'm not sure why you're asking for links and ignoring the book titles and other references above I've pointed out above (and it's pretty easy to get more).  Clearly, they don't all refer to "British Isles".  How is somebody searching for "Britain and Ireland", after reading the title "The Great Castles of Britain and Ireland" supposed to know it's different than that used in the book "The reformation in Britain and Ireland"?  So as to "What other topic can "Britain and Ireland" mean, I would say it can mean either BI, GB&I (is this an 'entity'?  Hmmmm...), UKoGB&I, or "UK" and "I".  --HighKing (talk) 12:55, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

 * "... clearly "Britain and Ireland" is widely used, but equally clearly can mean different things." Cool. Right now we re-direct to one of those things. You say there are more. Please post a link on this page an article on another thing that "Britain and Ireland" can reasonably mean. Otherwise this conversation is pointless. (And no, "Britain and Ireland" cannot reasonably mean Ireland or Great Britain etc. no more than "France and Germany" can reasonably mean France or Germany.)
 * "How is somebody searching for 'Britain and Ireland', after reading the title 'The Great Castles of Britain and Ireland' supposed to know it's different than that used in the book 'The reformation in Britain and Ireland'?" How do you know that it is used in a different way? I would have understood both as meaning the thing that we currently redirect to. Or do you think it is just a case of two nouns conjoined by "and" like "France and Germany" as in the books "Citizenship and Nationhood in France and Germany", "Political Culture in France and Germany", "The economic development of France and Germany 1815-1914", etc.?
 * Above you posted two other places where you think this page should redirect to. I replied to that post arguing that both were unreasonable (one being just another dab the other being just this phrase pulled apart). If this page is to be a dab it needs to dab somewhere. Where would you like it to dab to? --RA (talk) 13:33, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This talkpage should be re-directed to the Talk:British Isles, unless & until it's given it's own article. GoodDay (talk) 15:36, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I'm a little clearer on your point. You're saying that a dab page must point to an article, and not another dab page.  Perhaps then that "Britain and Ireland" should be more of an article, and not a dab, to clarify that the term can have multiple meanings.  Or perhaps it should simply point to Terminology of the British Isles as a better redirect.
 * Your primary argument is that someone searching for "Britain and Ireland" would reasonably be looking for "British Isles". My response is that this cannot be true, since "Britain and Ireland" is so ambiguous.  Assuming they come across the term and want to look it up, it's going to depend on where they found the term.  You say, "...Please post a link on this page an article on another thing that "Britain and Ireland" can reasonably mean. Otherwise this conversation is pointless."  At the risk of repeating myself, here's a very small sample from a simple search on Google Books where "Britain and Ireland" has different meanings:
 * The Prehistory of Britain and Ireland or The Great Castles of Britain and Ireland refers to the great castles of Great Britain and Ireland, the two largest islands of the British Isles. It does not refer to British Isles.
 * The Prehistory of Britain and Ireland also refers to Great Britain and Ireland
 * Law and opinion in twentieth-century Britain and Ireland refers to the United Kingdom and [[Republic of Ireland|Ireland] and clearly not the British Isles.
 * I've limited the seach to books with "Britain and Ireland" in the titles, just to illustrate how the phrase can be authoratively used and yet not mean "British Isles". But equally authorative sources use the term also:
 * New York Times - AROUND THE WORLD; Britain and Ireland Agree On Ulster, Paper Says refers to the sovereign states of UK and Ireland. It does not refer to the British Isles
 * The Times - Britain and Ireland agree to tighten border check refers also to UK and Ireland. It does not refer to British Isles
 * An Associated Press article refers to a Saudi ambassador to Britain and Ireland. Obviously referring to the sovereign states of UK and I.
 * The National Geographic channel also refer to Prince Turki Al Faisal as the "Saudi Ambassador to Britain and Ireland" - which obviously refers to the "UK" and "I"
 * In summary, "Britain and Ireland" could dab to:
 * United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
 * British Isles
 * Or why not a small article summarizing that it could mean those things above, or also mean
 * United Kingdom and Ireland
 * Great Britain and Ireland
 * or redirect instead to Terminology of the British Isles. --HighKing (talk) 16:03, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

 * Each of the examples you give are either: (a) just two nouns conjoined by the word "and" (a la France and Germany); or (b) an determined reading not to interpret "Britain and Ireland" as another way of saying "British Isles" (contrary to the sources on that page and a la those pedantic arguments that if it doesn't include the Isle of Man then it cannot mean the "British Isles").
 * WRT your suggestion for a dab page links: UKGBI is about as reasonable as it gets but even when that polity existed "Britain and Ireland" was not a common term for it (a la GB and GBR, not BI or even GBI, for the country code) and it isn't today. In contrast, it is a common name of the topic described at British Isles.
 * Why not have it as a seperate article on terminology? Because Terminology of the British Isles already exits. Why not redirect to the terminology page? Because the title is an another name for the topic described at British Isles not the one described at Terminology of the British Isles.
 * Why are you so resistant to it being so when it is supported by secondary sources? Why are you suggesting that it be a dab page, an article of its own, redirected elsewhere ... anything but redirected to British Isles - where even in the lead to that article the phrase is bolded as another term for that topic? --RA (talk) 16:37, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree.
 * The fact is that "Britain and Ireland" is just two nouns cojoined by the word "and". What we're trying to do is help whoever types that into the search box get to where they want to go.
 * Your assertion that the examples are a determined reading not to interpret "Britain and Ireland" as another way of saying "British Isles" would be a perfectly fine counter argument, if it not for the fact that:
 * I didn't create the examples. I can hardly believe you are suggesting that the authors of the various books and articles were pedantically not using "British Isles" for all of these works.
 * Your argument that some examples are a pedantic argument to not include Iom or CI might work for the "Great Castles", but pointedly (and equally pedantically) ignores the fact that the title accurately describes the contents. All castles listed are from ... Great Britain and Ireland.  Your suggestion that the author really means to say "British Isles" is unsupported, and also flies in the face of the recently discussed MoS point that recommends to use the smallest meaningful geographic area.
 * As to the other examples, it simply doesn't stand up when considering the articles on the Saudi ambassador, or the border checks.
 * I never suggested it as another seperate article on terminology. I suggested that describe how this phrase, "Britain and Ireland", can be used and mean different things.
 * "....Why are you so resistant to it being so when it is supported by secondary sources?" - Eh? Please provide secondary sources and references that state that "Britain and Ireland" is used exclusively (or predominantly, or most often) as a synonym for "British Isles".
 * "...Why are you suggesting that it be a dab page, an article of its own, redirected elsewhere ... anything but redirected to British Isles - where even in the lead to that article the phrase is bolded as another term for that topic?" As I've stated previously, "A" being a subset of "B" doesn't make "B" a subset of "A" - or put another way - all "poodles" are "dogs" isn't the same as all "dogs" are "poodles".  You are saying that "Britain and Ireland" is the preferred term instead of using "British Isles", which is referenced.  But that's not the same as what you are now trying to conclude.  It doesn't mean or say that "Britain and Ireland" isn't also the preferred term for "Great Britain and Ireland" or any of the other combinations or terms we've mentioned.  That's bad logic.  And an argument of "being pedantic" is really a deflection, and a subset of WP:IDONTLIKEIT.  --HighKing (talk) 18:08, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

 * I don't think you really understand the examples you gave. For example the Prince Mohammed Bin Nawaf Ibn Abdul Aziz is the Saudi ambassador to the United Kingdom. He is also the Saudi ambassador to Ireland. Thus he is the ambassador the Saudi ambassador to "Britain" and "Ireland", not the "Britain and Ireland" as a single encyclopedia topic (unless something radical has happened and Ireland has rejoined the UK or all of the UK has joined with the Republic of Ireland). In the same way, Hassan Nazer is the Saudi ambassador the Australia. He is also the Saudi ambassador to New Zealand. Thus he is the Saudi ambassador to "Australia" and "New Zealand", not "Australia and New Zealand" as a single encyclopedia topic. In the same way, Sharyn Minahan is the Australian ambassador to "Denmark" and "Iceland" but we don't have a page called "Denmark and Iceland" - that is just two nouns held together by a third word ("and") and does not form a topic in itself.
 * Do you understand? We don't create pages for random combinations of nouns held together by "and". Black and white (disambiguation) doesn't dab out to Blank and White. There is no page for France and Germany that dabs between France and Germany (despite those words often appearing in proximity to each other cojoined by "and"). Australia and New Zealand redirects to Australasia (that being another word for that topic). It doesn't dab between Australia and New Zealand. It is the same for Britain and Ireland and British Isles, we don't dab it between "Britain" and "Ireland" just because the words often appear in proximity.
 * I have no idea what you are talking about poodles and subsets for. We are not talking about subsets. We are arguably talking about sets - but not subsets. And I am not going to participate in this discussion with you any further as it is unproductive. --RA (talk) 22:12, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * That attitude surprises me - it's unlike you. It's late.  On the one hand, you say that they're just two nouns linked with "and", and in the same breath you say that "Britain and Ireland" must redirect to "British Isles" because that's what people searching are looking for.  You're right.  I don't understand.  All I'm saying is that this article shouldn't link to "British Isles" because it's at least equally likely that they're not looking to get to the British Isles article, since the term is used for other reasons as I've tried to demonstrate with references where the term "Britain and Ireland" is used in a form that could mean any number of things.  If you want to stick to the two nouns linked with "and" argument, then this article shouldn't even exist.  But it does.  So why pretend that it should therefore always mean "British Isles"?  I also don't agree with the changes you made to Great Britain and Ireland for the same reasons, but at least there's less ambiguity about that term, and the dab you've created will satisfy most usage (except when United Kingdom and Ireland is intended).  You changing of the original article to a dab, by its very nature, excludes including this usage.  Is Wikipedia better off because of it?  I don't think so.  But I do agree with the idea behind the changes - that there's little point in replicating information already contained in Terminology of the British Isles.  Anyway as I've said, it's late.  --HighKing (talk) 23:08, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Linking to Terminology of the British Isles is acceptable. GoodDay (talk) 22:24, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. --HighKing (talk) 23:08, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

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Blue is one of the three primary color in the RYB color model Marxbarx (talk) 09:41, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 14:54, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

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Blue is one of the three primary colors in the RYB colors model (traditional colors theory), as well as in the RGB (additive) colors model.[2] It lies between violet and cyan on the spectrum of visible light. The term blue generally describes colours perceived by humans observing light with a dominant wavelength between approximately 450 and 495 nanometres. Most blues contain a slight mixture of other colors; azure contains some green, while ultramarine contains some violet. Jacksparrowthepirate (talk) 09:51, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. GrayStorm(Talk|Contributions) 15:08, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Jacksparrowthepirate seems to be asking to change "colour" to "color", but this article uses British English so nothing needs to be done (MOS:ENGVAR). —  The Earwig (talk) 16:22, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

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